monday afternoon, feburary 9th ,part 2

[kellabeck]

A hate group is expected from a so called "Church" They protest soldiers funerals. They're from where? anyone catch that?

It's a so-called Christian church which is so hateful (they abhor gays) that it carts its members around to picket military funerals. What the connection is, I have never understood. Why they think that's "Christian" I have never understood. Jesus would throw up on these people, imo.

[legalease]

SNIPPED:

Is Baez trying to play his part in a role? Is he acting, putting on his little sad voice, making sure he is heard above the honking horns, honking at the spectacle HE and HE himself is creating...all for the cameras. He loves his moment in the limelight more than Cindy ever did.
Kat

Honk! Honk! :thumbsup:

[sailordog]

It's a so-called Christian church which is so hateful (they abhor gays) that it carts its members around to picket military funerals. What the connection is, I have never understood. Why they think that's "Christian" I have never understood. Jesus would throw up on these people, imo.

The whack jobs think that the war in Iraq is a punishment for America's tolerance of homosexuality.

[Neffy]

oops - empty handed at the moment except....

Case Number: 2008-CA-0024573-O
2/6/2009 NOTICE OF TAKING VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF JIM HOOVER AND DOMINIC CASEY ON 03/25/09 @ 10:00AM AND 1:00PM
2/6/2009 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION OF LEONARD PADILLA ON 03/24/09 @ 10:30AM
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/

Any thoughts why call the PIs for the ZFG civil case?

Maybe it was Zanny on the other end of D. Casey's phone that day directing them :shrug:
You know forgiven an all by Casey. Least she could do.

[Janz]

It's a so-called Christian church which is so hateful (they abhor gays) that it carts its members around to picket military funerals. What the connection is, I have never understood. Why they think that's "Christian" I have never understood. Jesus would throw up on these people, imo.

Yep, this group brings new meaning to the word "HATEFUL".

[mosey?]

It's a so-called Christian church which is so hateful (they abhor gays) that it carts its members around to picket military funerals. What the connection is, I have never understood. Why they think that's "Christian" I have never understood. Jesus would throw up on these people, imo.They are definately NOT Christians, just because they say they are. I dont think He would, He would be kind. That's the whole idea behind His teachings.

[8BellesFan]

SayWhat03, I missed your post earlier.

What can Casey possibly say that trumps I miss Caylee. If she wrote a eulogy it would probably say that the little snothead took a great photo and she liked her big glasses and she uh....well that's all I can think of. I sure do miss her....uh...she liked pork rinds too.

[Lapis]

oops - empty handed at the moment except....

Case Number: 2008-CA-0024573-O
2/6/2009 NOTICE OF TAKING VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF JIM HOOVER AND DOMINIC CASEY ON 03/25/09 @ 10:00AM AND 1:00PM
2/6/2009 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION OF LEONARD PADILLA ON 03/24/09 @ 10:30AM
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/

Any thoughts why call the PIs for the ZFG civil case?

To see if they did any investigation into ZG or ZFG, or to see if Casey, Cindy, George or Lee said anything to them about ZFG. Two reasons, just off the top of my head, I may think of more. JMO

[sailordog]

This is Horrible! Richard Grund is on this "list" dis invited? He is the ONE who cared for little Caylee and first called Casey on her chit, for NOT being there for her own child. It's a travesty. Unforgivable; horrible display by this family to let the one person who actually "cared" for this child to be disallowed at her memorial service. How awfully sad.

Kat
:rose:

She doesn't want ANYONE there that is going to be honest with the media about their feelings. She wants ONLY people that will tow the company line ...

[Daffodil]

OHHHhh I cant wait for that release!

I havent made up my mind whether ZG wants Casey to say she IS the one , or ISNT the one. Does she want her name cleared of all suspicion or does she want restitution for defamation? Dunno yet.
The PI? What manner of news is this? Lol

I think the defense is still trying to figure that one out.

[TeenyNRossi]

oops - empty handed at the moment except....

Case Number: 2008-CA-0024573-O
2/6/2009 NOTICE OF TAKING VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF JIM HOOVER AND DOMINIC CASEY ON 03/25/09 @ 10:00AM AND 1:00PM
2/6/2009 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION OF LEONARD PADILLA ON 03/24/09 @ 10:30AM
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/

Any thoughts why call the PIs for the ZFG civil case?

I've never clicked on this link before...under the financial details..."someone" still owes Orange County $52.00 for copies...since October...

[mosey?]

"Dark forces" is a very apt description, mose.Hey! Has anyone ever simply tried a bucket of water?
I'm melting!

[8BellesFan]

To see if they did any investigation into ZG or ZFG, or to see if Casey, Cindy, George or Lee said anything to them about ZFG. Two reasons, just off the top of my head, I may think of more. JMO

To see if LP knows anything two weeks ago but didn't want to say anything

[tomsgirl]

This is Horrible! Richard Grund is on this "list" dis invited? He is the ONE who cared for little Caylee and first called Casey on her chit, for NOT being there for her own child. It's a travesty. Unforgivable; horrible display by this family to let the one person who actually "cared" for this child to be disallowed at her memorial service. How awfully sad.

Kat
:rose:

These people are sooo despicable that I cannot even wrap my mind around their thinking. No normal person could. jmo

[Neffy]

6.5 hours until that first wand is powered up ~~~~~~~~

[KittyMom]

To find out who really tipped them off to do their little searches for Caylee's remains, perhaps? If it was Casey or Lee who tipped them, or someone on the A's behalf, that means there was no ZFG in the mix at all.

Just speculating. I would so love to know what Morgan's up to. My bet is plenty.

ITA. Morgan is po'ed with this group. He's out for the truth, period.

[steffaroob4]

Speaking of Domimic Casey, did his pyschic ever get her phone records?

[aubrey04]

Sometimes when people focus so much on someone elses image ,its their own that has been damaged .

I guess you missed coldwaters warning that name-calling and bullying is prohibited on this site. It was stickied on top of all the threads on purpose - so we would read it.

She said people who name call will get warnings and/or get their account suspended.

Here is the link -

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=348901

[Daffodil]

I'm curious what the Cindy supporters think of all of this. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to read through all these posts. Has anyone noticed?

[iluvmua]

Funny Casey Anthony Youtube Video:
Casey Anthony Me Worship CD

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvu5pTSr6Pk

This is too funny!

[mosey?]

oops - empty handed at the moment except....

Case Number: 2008-CA-0024573-O
2/6/2009 NOTICE OF TAKING VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF JIM HOOVER AND DOMINIC CASEY ON 03/25/09 @ 10:00AM AND 1:00PM
2/6/2009 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION OF LEONARD PADILLA ON 03/24/09 @ 10:30AM
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/

Any thoughts why call the PIs for the ZFG civil case?Why is Zenaida using the name Fernandez?
I have absolutely NO idea why Hoover, DCasey and Lenny are being called in the civil suit. WOW! What the heck?? Do you know?:confused:

[Cury-us Coyote]

To see if they did any investigation into ZG or ZFG, or to see if Casey, Cindy, George or Lee said anything to them about ZFG. Two reasons, just off the top of my head, I may think of more. JMO

Reportedly Kasen filed three motions - dismiss w/prejudice, sanctions for frivolous, and 57.105 for plainiff to pay legal fees...........but not yet.
jmo

[legalease]

This is Horrible! Richard Grund is on this "list" dis invited? He is the ONE who cared for little Caylee and first called Casey on her chit, for NOT being there for her own child. It's a travesty. Unforgivable; horrible display by this family to let the one person who actually "cared" for this child to be disallowed at her memorial service. How awfully sad.

Kat
:rose:

They also attempted to throw blame onto Jesse by insinuating he may have been responsible for Caylee's disappearance ... George didn't 'like' Jesse for obscure reasons he attempted to explain in one of his interrogation tapes ... dunno ... the Anthony family are a strange bunch...

[TisMeAgain]

lol, I'm sitting here thinking - ME, hmmmm who is ME....

You mean YOU !!!! lolol

ROFL!!!! I was thinking the same thing... <headtilt>

[mosey?]

Cury, maybe H,DC and LP have periphreal information from Casey and they arent currently affiliated with a law firm, therefore arent protected under attorney-client priveledges. (employees of a representing law firm are also protected)

[Cury-us Coyote]

Speaking of Domimic Casey, did his pyschic ever get her phone records?

Phone records? Last I heard, still looking for a forked stick/devining rod.
jmo

[aubrey04]

What in the world are you talking about ...who called anyone a NAME , you need to check yourself.....I do not appreciate being reprimanded when clearly there was no name calling at all ,whatever you have drummed up from my post is a mystery to me!

This is the post I quoted when I asked you if you missed CW's warning:

Sometimes when people focus so much on someone elses image ,its their own that has been damaged .

[?noanswer]

oops - empty handed at the moment except....

Case Number: 2008-CA-0024573-O
2/6/2009 NOTICE OF TAKING VIDEOTAPED DEPOSITION OF JIM HOOVER AND DOMINIC CASEY ON 03/25/09 @ 10:00AM AND 1:00PM
2/6/2009 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION OF LEONARD PADILLA ON 03/24/09 @ 10:30AM
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/

Any thoughts why call the PIs for the ZFG civil case?

When you posted that earlier, I thought it was for the murder case, didn't know it was for ZFG.

I guess they want to ask the PI's why they were searching for Caylee if they thought she was kidnapped by ZFG. As to LP, he has spouted off about so much stuff, guess they want to know where he got all his info. I really don't know, tho. JMO

[?noanswer]

OHHHhh I cant wait for that release!

I havent made up my mind whether ZG wants Casey to say she IS the one , or ISNT the one. Does she want her name cleared of all suspicion or does she want restitution for defamation? Dunno yet.
The PI? What manner of news is this? Lol

If KC say she is or if she says she isn't, seems to me that would be a win either way. JMO

[mosey?]

Speaking of Domimic Casey, did his pyschic ever get her phone records?No phone records. All communication with DC was done via telepathy. But, dont tell Verizon, theyll want their cut.

JK

[dixie77]

Earlier i had mde a post saying that NG wasnt gonna be live tonite. I could have swore i heard at the end of her program on Friday nite that tonite was gonna be the jailhouse visits. I was wrong and i apologize.
But am i the only one who seen that or did i dream that? thanks

[mosey?]

If KC say she is or if she says she isn't, seems to me that would be a win either way. JMOThat's why the little pretender aint talkin'. and neither is his client.

[Lapis]

Reportedly Kasen filed three motions - dismiss w/prejudice, sanctions for frivolous, and 57.105 for plainiff to pay legal fees...........but not yet.
jmo

I would have filed them a long time ago. The motions as I understand have been filed but just not put into the system. Civil records always take longer than criminal ones. The date of filing is always the date it is delivered to the court. The have to be scanned into the system. The system is different than what I'm used to. I live in a state where nothing is filed with the court except pleadings and motions. The only way to get a copy of a deposiiton ior interrogatories is to request it from one of the parties.

With Civil motions there is usually a set period of time before they are listed for disposition. Here, you have to give the other party 14 days notice of a motion (except SJ that's 28 days). You have to request oral argument. The other party has a certain period of time to respond. If the motion is heard on the papers, the court just signs an order, putting the reasoning on the record.

Meantime, discovery continues until the court enters an order of dismissal. JMO

[dixie77]

Originally Posted by mosey?
OHHHhh I cant wait for that release!

I havent made up my mind whether ZG wants Casey to say she IS the one , or ISNT the one. Does she want her name cleared of all suspicion or does she want restitution for defamation? Dunno yet.
The PI? What manner of news is this? Lol

==========================

Me thinks ZG wants a piece of future earnings if there is a book or movie. jmo

[TisMeAgain]

When you posted that earlier, I thought it was for the murder case, didn't know it was for ZFG.

I guess they want to ask the PI's why they were searching for Caylee if they thought she was kidnapped by ZFG. As to LP, he has spouted off about so much stuff, guess they want to know where he got all his info. I really don't know, tho. JMO

I have no idea either, I just had to hang on your post to say, your sig is the funniest I've evah seen! Just cracks me up!

[steffaroob4]

No phone records. All communication with DC was done via telepathy. But, dont tell Verizon, theyll want their cut.

JK

ahhh, the old tin foil hat method, again.
I thought we were getting some new docs, this memorial stuff annoys me.

[Neffy]

He didnt like what he found out (george) BUT GA had already moved out of the house, and didnt even live there. That's how much he cared. HE cared so much, he LEFT after her birth. Why?

I think because of What Cindy Became, at the birth of this child. She completely took over, never letting Casey be "in charge" of her own child, from day one. That's what we know so far, proof further, casey's outburst on that visit "you never let me speak"

Well, Casey finally took things into her own hands, she has spoken, loud and clear. By taking the thing that Cindy loved most in life:
Caylee Marie Anthony

Kat

Cindy is a PRO at overtaking things. One doesn't "become" that way.

[sailordog]

Pretty quiet on that front today, Daffodil.

I was thinking that earlier. It's been 'don't be mean to the Anthonys' all week ... then today, nada!

[nana6]

Hi Friends, Did anything new happen today . I have been out of the loop for the last two days down in Mexico. I will say many a prayer tomorrow for Caylee. What time does the memorial start I am so glad I am able to check in with you all online in the evenings here I was not sure what the hotel would have as far as computers go. I wonder if Casey qwill be watching on tv. I t hink she only gets 1 hour a day and I bet this goes on for more than an hour. Poor Caylee. She should have had a very private family funeral, not a three ring circus imo

[KittyMom]

I was thinking that earlier. It's been 'don't be mean to the Anthonys' all week ... then today, nada!

Makes you wonder what they're thinking now?

[mosey?]

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Me thinks ZG wants a piece of future earnings if there is a book or movie. jmoI remember hearing that a capital convict cant profit from their crime, but later heard it was overturned a couple of years ago, so ??
I hope ZG get everything she wants out of Casey

[Daffodil]

Nonsense. You're here to stir the pot. Own it. Be the spoon. Or the pot, your choice. :biggrin:

SayWhat,

I like your posts tonight!!!! I am getting a picture of you in my head.

[nana6]

I will speak with you all tomorrow. I am sure there will be a moment of silence for little Caylee tomorrow in so many places. This just did not have to be this way, this memorial. This show. So sad. imo

[8BellesFan]

I remember hearing that a capital convict cant profit from their crime, but later heard it was overturned a couple of years ago, so ??
I hope ZG get everything she wants out of Casey

what's she gonna get? an 82 hoodie and a case of beer?

but she can try, by all means....:thumbsup:

[mosey?]

ahhh, the old tin foil hat method, again.
I thought we were getting some new docs, this memorial stuff annoys me.Its all in the timing, baby! Like a well choreographed stage show. When the news of the memorial wears thin and people start to mumble and wander off... BOOM! DOC-DUMP

[sunstar]

Hi Friends, Did anything new happen today . I have been out of the loop for the last two days down in Mexico. I will say many a prayer tomorrow for Caylee. What time does the memorial start I am so glad I am able to check in with you all online in the evenings here I was not sure what the hotel would have as far as computers go. I wonder if Casey qwill be watching on tv. I t hink she only gets 1 hour a day and I bet this goes on for more than an hour. Poor Caylee. She should have had a very private family funeral, not a three ring circus imo

Hi! :) Casey issued a statement which Baez read to the media.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,490225,00.html

"I miss Caylee everyday and every minute of everyday," Casey Anthony said in a statement read by her lawyer Monday afternoon.

"I can't be there for Cayee's funeral but someday I want to visit her gave and want to tell her how much I miss her... I know they cremated her, but I still don't want the public with cameras and everyone around for Caylee's funeral service. I can't stop my parents from doing what they want. I truly hope it will help them."

[mosey?]

what's she gonna get? an 82 hoodie and a case of beer?

but she can try, by all means....:thumbsup:If amy hasn't claimed them as her own, Zeniada can ask for the white sunglasses. Maybe a cheap-a$$ Target brassier.
Maybe she can lay claim to her commisary fund. It's up to $500

[8BellesFan]

If amy hasn't claimed them as her own, Zeniada can ask for the white sunglasses. Maybe a cheap-a$$ Target brassier.
Maybe she can lay claim to her commisary fund. It's up to $500

is it really? holy cow! what are people thinking????

[mosey?]

SayWhat,

I like your posts tonight!!!! I am getting a picture of you in my head.she's my fav, too

[mosey?]

is it really? holy cow! what are people thinking????I dont think its as benevolent as it seems. They just want to watch her as she's rolled through the courtroom doors

[Daffodil]

Wow, the board seems slow tonight for it being the eve of the service.

I have Greta on and just can't change it now but want to see NG too. I'm not sure I will be awake for the second repeat.

[bluwaters]

Richard Grund's latest MySpace post, re tomorrow:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=469739855

Tuesday, February 10, 2009


The Memorial - My Statement
Current mood: contemplative



I've been asked many times today if I or my family will be attending the "memorial" tomorrow at First Baptist Church of Orlando.

Recently it was reported on various news outlets that my name and my son Jesse's name appeared on the "not welcome" list. I reached out to have it confirmed and has been confirmed. So, I do not want to feed into the madness of this "event" by showing up and being led away by security and I do not want to allow anyone who might be behind this banishment to have any joy in that either. Because I cherish Caylee, her life and her memory, and always will, I have chosen to meet with friends at the site on Suburban Drive. This IS NOT, as has been reported, an alternate memorial. If others happen to show up we will remember Caylee together. If I can offer any comfort or prayerful guidance I will be glad to so.

I have always felt it was the family's right to have their funeral before anyone else did anything. To my dismay and surprise a Public Memorial is being staged before a private family funeral. In most high profile situations a private family funeral is given precedence and then the public is allowed their time to mourn. With the threat of protesters, the smothering blanket of security and the presence of certain fringe groups who claim to be Christians but act with hate and vile accusations against others staging a protest outside I fear that this will not be about Caylee at all but about an event about Caylee.

I must also state that I am dismayed by the decision of the leadership of the First Baptist Church of Orlando to host any event where the goal is to heal and restore a community but will also bar people from that community who want to attend under the threat of being removed by security. I cannot find a scriptural verification of such a stance. In fact, what I found was in the Parable of the Lost Sheep in Luke Chapter 15 where the Lord said He would risk leaving the 99 to find that 1 sheep that was lost. His heart has always been for that one person who needed Him. I wonder how He feels to know that someone who might need His comfort tomorrow is not welcome in a place where He is supposed to reside. Instead the area I found that seems to match the spirit of this rule is in John 18:14 where Caiaphas counseled that the needs of the many outweighed the needs of the one. If this memorial was truly about Caylee it would be built around Caylee and a child's love. For the love of Caylee all feuds, disagreements and hard feelings should have been set aside for her. Apparently that is not the case, and for that I sincerely disheartened.

The fact is, every day of our life is a memorial for Caylee. Not a day goes by that we don't cherish her memory and smile and have love for her fill our hearts. No one day or one event would ever be enough to cover that. We know that she is in Heaven and although some would like to make her into an angel and give her a job we prefer to follow scriptural teaching and not New Age teachings or paganistic influence and realize that she is safe in her Father's arms, running and playing and being a child. She doesn't need a job. He's got all that covered for her. If His eyes are on the sparrow I know He can manage watching over the little children too!

So, what ever you do tomorrow, make sure you do it for the right reasons. Do not be weighed down by such impossible requirements of having a pure heart and honorable intentions before you remember Caylee. The truth is our intentions are purely selfish because we miss her and if love is in our heart that should be good enough. A requirement of a pure heart and honorable intentions would mean that any sanctuary would be empty and the parking lots vacant. The Lord's heart is pure and His intentions for Caylee are more then honorable. His Grace is sufficient for all of us.

God bless you and thank you for letting me share this time with you.
Richard Grund





Thank you Richard for wise and loving words.
It is obvious who loved Caylee.

[TeenyNRossi]

If amy hasn't claimed them as her own, Zeniada can ask for the white sunglasses. Maybe a cheap-a$$ Target brassier.
Maybe she can lay claim to her commisary fund. It's up to $500

In this economy??? - Gee I'm sure some bank somewhere would take that amount as a payment & maybe stop a foreclosure (at least for a month)...I guess people have their priorities & see KC as more needy than say a child without a coat...people are pretty sad....:glare:

[nc1948]

ITA, but it pisses me off to no end that her lawyer is going to try and pass on a statement from her, And I don't think she had a thing to do with it. I never expected Casey to view the memorial, I do think she will listen on her own little special radio.
I think they are going to TRY and use this memorial to her advantage, The wording of that statement IMO was thought out.

Well they should have 're thunk it' It was poorly done with 14 references to 'I'. No mention of loving Caylee. Sounded petty and self serving.

[mosey?]

Richard Grund's latest MySpace post, re tomorrow:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=469739855

Tuesday, February 10, 2009


The Memorial - My Statement
Current mood: contemplative



I've been asked many times today if I or my family will be attending the "memorial" tomorrow at First Baptist Church of Orlando.

Recently it was reported on various news outlets that my name and my son Jesse's name appeared on the "not welcome" list. I reached out to have it confirmed and has been confirmed. So, I do not want to feed into the madness of this "event" by showing up and being led away by security and I do not want to allow anyone who might be behind this banishment to have any joy in that either. Because I cherish Caylee, her life and her memory, and always will, I have chosen to meet with friends at the site on Suburban Drive. This IS NOT, as has been reported, an alternate memorial. If others happen to show up we will remember Caylee together. If I can offer any comfort or prayerful guidance I will be glad to so.

I have always felt it was the family's right to have their funeral before anyone else did anything. To my dismay and surprise a Public Memorial is being staged before a private family funeral. In most high profile situations a private family funeral is given precedence and then the public is allowed their time to mourn. With the threat of protesters, the smothering blanket of security and the presence of certain fringe groups who claim to be Christians but act with hate and vile accusations against others staging a protest outside I fear that this will not be about Caylee at all but about an event about Caylee.

I must also state that I am dismayed by the decision of the leadership of the First Baptist Church of Orlando to host any event where the goal is to heal and restore a community but will also bar people from that community who want to attend under the threat of being removed by security. I cannot find a scriptural verification of such a stance. In fact, what I found was in the Parable of the Lost Sheep in Luke Chapter 15 where the Lord said He would risk leaving the 99 to find that 1 sheep that was lost. His heart has always been for that one person who needed Him. I wonder how He feels to know that someone who might need His comfort tomorrow is not welcome in a place where He is supposed to reside. Instead the area I found that seems to match the spirit of this rule is in John 18:14 where Caiaphas counseled that the needs of the many outweighed the needs of the one. If this memorial was truly about Caylee it would be built around Caylee and a child's love. For the love of Caylee all feuds, disagreements and hard feelings should have been set aside for her. Apparently that is not the case, and for that I sincerely disheartened.

The fact is, every day of our life is a memorial for Caylee. Not a day goes by that we don't cherish her memory and smile and have love for her fill our hearts. No one day or one event would ever be enough to cover that. We know that she is in Heaven and although some would like to make her into an angel and give her a job we prefer to follow scriptural teaching and not New Age teachings or paganistic influence and realize that she is safe in her Father's arms, running and playing and being a child. She doesn't need a job. He's got all that covered for her. If His eyes are on the sparrow I know He can manage watching over the little children too!

So, what ever you do tomorrow, make sure you do it for the right reasons. Do not be weighed down by such impossible requirements of having a pure heart and honorable intentions before you remember Caylee. The truth is our intentions are purely selfish because we miss her and if love is in our heart that should be good enough. A requirement of a pure heart and honorable intentions would mean that any sanctuary would be empty and the parking lots vacant. The Lord's heart is pure and His intentions for Caylee are more then honorable. His Grace is sufficient for all of us.

God bless you and thank you for letting me share this time with you.
Richard Grund





Thank you Richard for wise and loving words.
It is obvious who loved Caylee.I really do admire Richard Grund:
"So, what ever you do tomorrow, make sure you do it for the right reasons. Do not be weighed down by such impossible requirements of having a pure heart and honorable intentions before you remember Caylee. The truth is our intentions are purely selfish because we miss her and if love is in our heart that should be good enough. A requirement of a pure heart and honorable intentions would mean that any sanctuary would be empty and the parking lots vacant. The Lord's heart is pure and His intentions for Caylee are more then honorable. His Grace is sufficient for all of us."

Beautifully said, Mr. Grund

[TeenyNRossi]

Richard Grund's latest MySpace post, re tomorrow:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=469739855

Tuesday, February 10, 2009


The Memorial - My Statement
Current mood: contemplative



I've been asked many times today if I or my family will be attending the "memorial" tomorrow at First Baptist Church of Orlando.

Recently it was reported on various news outlets that my name and my son Jesse's name appeared on the "not welcome" list. I reached out to have it confirmed and has been confirmed. So, I do not want to feed into the madness of this "event" by showing up and being led away by security and I do not want to allow anyone who might be behind this banishment to have any joy in that either. Because I cherish Caylee, her life and her memory, and always will, I have chosen to meet with friends at the site on Suburban Drive. This IS NOT, as has been reported, an alternate memorial. If others happen to show up we will remember Caylee together. If I can offer any comfort or prayerful guidance I will be glad to so.

I have always felt it was the family's right to have their funeral before anyone else did anything. To my dismay and surprise a Public Memorial is being staged before a private family funeral. In most high profile situations a private family funeral is given precedence and then the public is allowed their time to mourn. With the threat of protesters, the smothering blanket of security and the presence of certain fringe groups who claim to be Christians but act with hate and vile accusations against others staging a protest outside I fear that this will not be about Caylee at all but about an event about Caylee.

I must also state that I am dismayed by the decision of the leadership of the First Baptist Church of Orlando to host any event where the goal is to heal and restore a community but will also bar people from that community who want to attend under the threat of being removed by security. I cannot find a scriptural verification of such a stance. In fact, what I found was in the Parable of the Lost Sheep in Luke Chapter 15 where the Lord said He would risk leaving the 99 to find that 1 sheep that was lost. His heart has always been for that one person who needed Him. I wonder how He feels to know that someone who might need His comfort tomorrow is not welcome in a place where He is supposed to reside. Instead the area I found that seems to match the spirit of this rule is in John 18:14 where Caiaphas counseled that the needs of the many outweighed the needs of the one. If this memorial was truly about Caylee it would be built around Caylee and a child's love. For the love of Caylee all feuds, disagreements and hard feelings should have been set aside for her. Apparently that is not the case, and for that I sincerely disheartened.

The fact is, every day of our life is a memorial for Caylee. Not a day goes by that we don't cherish her memory and smile and have love for her fill our hearts. No one day or one event would ever be enough to cover that. We know that she is in Heaven and although some would like to make her into an angel and give her a job we prefer to follow scriptural teaching and not New Age teachings or paganistic influence and realize that she is safe in her Father's arms, running and playing and being a child. She doesn't need a job. He's got all that covered for her. If His eyes are on the sparrow I know He can manage watching over the little children too!

So, what ever you do tomorrow, make sure you do it for the right reasons. Do not be weighed down by such impossible requirements of having a pure heart and honorable intentions before you remember Caylee. The truth is our intentions are purely selfish because we miss her and if love is in our heart that should be good enough. A requirement of a pure heart and honorable intentions would mean that any sanctuary would be empty and the parking lots vacant. The Lord's heart is pure and His intentions for Caylee are more then honorable. His Grace is sufficient for all of us.

God bless you and thank you for letting me share this time with you.
Richard Grund





Thank you Richard for wise and loving words.
It is obvious who loved Caylee.

I can't snip this...what a very caring, loving individual...in this case I have to also add...class, something that has been sorely missed in this whole (what do you even call it) episode?

[Mimi428]

I hear you loud and clear.The tug of war still continues even after Caylee is dead.Cindy and Casey battleing it out with Caylee in between.They never let up..


I don't believe either of them are capable (at this point) of changing the way they interact with one another. They are each scrambling just to cope with & adjust to the circumstances they are now in. Bad habits & behaviors can become exacerbated in times of extreme stress in more people than just Cindy & Casey, so it really doesn't surprise me that they are continuing to interact with one another in very disfunctional ways.

Plus, I doubt either one of them perceives their own behaviors as being a problem.

JMO

[Jessspb]

In the statement read by Baez from Casey, she said that she told her parents that she wanted a casket for Caylee and didn't want a public memorial. I was under the impression that they had not spoken on the phone or in visits at the jail. I always thought that was odd that Cindy wouldn't reach out to Casey (especially since she seemed to think she was innocent). I wonder when Casey expressed her wishes for Caylee's remains and burial. Does anyone know? Thanks!

[CelticDawn]

Richard Grund's latest MySpace post, re tomorrow:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=469739855


Thank you Richard for wise and loving words.
It is obvious who loved Caylee.

Now that was classy.

Whatever happens tomorrow...I hope that nobody does anything that would further tarnish the memory of Caylee.

Her life is going to be celebrated in the hearts of a whole lot of people.

:rose: for Caylee :rose:

[CelticDawn]

In the statement read by Baez from Casey, she said that she told her parents that she wanted a casket for Caylee and didn't want a public memorial. I was under the impression that they had not spoken on the phone or in visits at the jail. I always thought that was odd that Cindy wouldn't reach out to Casey (especially since she seemed to think she was innocent). I wonder when Casey expressed her wishes for Caylee's remains and burial. Does anyone know? Thanks!

Hi...Im just getting here tonight....Where is that statement?? <thanks>

[callmetree]

I like Lenny but this shows he is doing this to spite Cindy. jmo

At least that is how I see it.

i do like lenny. i will say this, he nor richard grund need to do this thing tommorrow :glare:

[Daffodil]

Ty Blu for posting Richards words. Beautiful. Sums it up totally as I've never heard of a church banishing anyone. The thought that CA thinks she can do this; more proof of her ever weilding Power that she thinks she has.

I think that an empty parking lot is what they may find tomorrow, on a Tuesday, in this economy. Do they really think people are going to take a day off, in the middle of the week, on a Tuesday, to see a circus?

I dont.

Kat


How is the church going to deal with all of this? The impressions that they do not have their doors open for anyone and everyone. The wacky protestors.

As far as that wacky group that protests soldiers funerals......if I lived near where they planned to attend a soldier's funeral.,....I would try to get as many people as I could to show up with big, huge signs thanking the soldier and his/her family.

[TeenyNRossi]

In the statement read by Baez from Casey, she said that she told her parents that she wanted a casket for Caylee and didn't want a public memorial. I was under the impression that they had not spoken on the phone or in visits at the jail. I always thought that was odd that Cindy wouldn't reach out to Casey (especially since she seemed to think she was innocent). I wonder when Casey expressed her wishes for Caylee's remains and burial. Does anyone know? Thanks!

Don't know either maybe via passing notes thru Baez, otherwise it would have to have been while she was out on bail....If (as it was discussed earlier) any of the statement can be taken as true and not just a PR ruse....(also there is US mail)

[Janz]

Richard Grund's latest MySpace post, re tomorrow:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=469739855




[/I]

Thank you Richard for wise and loving words.
It is obvious who loved Caylee.

Thanks for the link, blu. Much appreciated.

[need2no]

Earlier i had mde a post saying that NG wasnt gonna be live tonite. I could have swore i heard at the end of her program on Friday nite that tonite was gonna be the jailhouse visits. I was wrong and i apologize.
But am i the only one who seen that or did i dream that? thanks

Nancy is doing a special Tues. Feb. 10th. The recent jailhouse visit was mentioned, so I assume it's a repeat of what we've already seen. Perhaps this is what got you confused.

[funkyflower]

Richard Grund's myspace post is the most sane, sincere, loving thing from anyone I've read since Caylee went missing. :crying:

[Unperson1984]

And me four!


make that five.

ETA that includes 16 years of Catholic school.

[CelticDawn]

In the statement read by Baez from Casey, she said that she told her parents that she wanted a casket for Caylee and didn't want a public memorial. I was under the impression that they had not spoken on the phone or in visits at the jail. I always thought that was odd that Cindy wouldn't reach out to Casey (especially since she seemed to think she was innocent). I wonder when Casey expressed her wishes for Caylee's remains and burial. Does anyone know? Thanks!

Anotyher thing about this jess....she told them she wanted a casket...

Well since she ALLEGEDLY hadnt spoken to her parents since waay before caylees remains were discovereed....how did she even know that a casket would be NEEDED...???

[apothecary]

Maybe the whole family was jealous of Caylee because she had more going for her than all of them put together

[CelticDawn]

RG is a special soul with good intentions. there is one sad thing you brought to mind though ,when you spoke of tarnishing the memory of Caylee ...I get lost on what a good memory or thought of Caylee may be ,because all I have heard since this case started is the HATE thrown around toward members of that family , that has been the sole focus from all .........and THAT alone tarnishes the memory ,in FACT it has had an uncanny effect in that when the foucs has been on the hate of the family ,it makes you forget what the whole point was ...yeah thats real SAD.

I think of a good memory of caylee as her singing....showing affection for her great grandfather....her smile....but of course it is not the same as a memory of one who actually knew her....Youre right...it is a hard thing to process.

[Jessspb]

Who is covering the Memorial tomorrow? Will Headline news? I want to tivo it to watch when I get home. Does anyone know what time? (cst) Also, I saw where Nancy Grace will cover it at noon. Will that be on CNN or online? Seems like I saw where it said CNN.com. Thanks!

[Daffodil]

Richard Grund's myspace post is the most sane, sincere, loving thing from anyone I've read since Caylee went missing. :crying:

I agree. We need more like him.

[TeenyNRossi]

I agree. We need more like him.

Daffodil, I'm trying like you wouldn't believe to get my teenage son to GET your sig line....UGH~~

[Daffodil]

Who is covering the Memorial tomorrow? Will Headline news? I want to tivo it to watch when I get home. Does anyone know what time? (cst) Also, I saw where Nancy Grace will cover it at noon. Will that be on CNN or online? Seems like I saw where it said CNN.com. Thanks!

I believe Headline News is covering it, 10 AM E.

[bluwaters]

RG is a special soul with good intentions. there is one sad thing you brought to mind though ,when you spoke of tarnishing the memory of Caylee ...I get lost on what a good memory or thought of Caylee may be ,because all I have heard since this case started is the HATE thrown around toward members of that family , that has been the sole focus from all .........and THAT alone tarnishes the memory ,in FACT it has had an uncanny effect in that when the foucs has been on the hate of the family ,it makes you forget what the whole point was ...yeah thats real SAD.

No hate from here, never has been.
There is hatred from some and they don't mind speaking for themselves about it.
We all have the right to express ourselves.
I respect that.
It is a lie at worst, or, at best, an inability to understand others' meanings to generalize all under the label of HATE.
Perhaps a reflection of what is wrong with the accuser?

[Jessspb]

Thanks, Daffodil!

[della_17_99]

Cindy's probably piecing out the ashes into little ziploc bags as we type ... "YOU too can own a piece of Caylee ... $29.95/ounce."


Ok - I know that's bad. But I don't put anything past them. :angry:

Yeah.... that WAS bad...........:ohmy:









imo

[Mamie]

He didnt like what he found out (george) BUT GA had already moved out of the house, and didnt even live there. That's how much he cared. HE cared so much, he LEFT after her birth. Why?

I think because of What Cindy Became, at the birth of this child. She completely took over, never letting Casey be "in charge" of her own child, from day one. That's what we know so far, proof further, casey's outburst on that visit "you never let me speak"

Well, Casey finally took things into her own hands, she has spoken, loud and clear. By taking the thing that Cindy loved most in life:
Caylee Marie Anthony

Kat

Just my opinion and I like Richard Grund and Jesse, too, but I surely do not think Richard should have gone in as far as he did in his statement about tomorrow. There were things he said that he should have been above saying at all. I realize he's probably very hurt about tomorrow AND about things that have been said regarding his family by the Anthonys but a simple statement saying he had confirmed it was true he was on the disinvited list and he nor his family would not be attending in keeping with the wishes of the family. It would have been alright to say that he was going to join a group over on Suburban, but then he should have put a period right there. Again, JMO

[Neffy]

RG is a special soul with good intentions. there is one sad thing you brought to mind though ,when you spoke of tarnishing the memory of Caylee ...I get lost on what a good memory or thought of Caylee may be ,because all I have heard since this case started is the HATE thrown around toward members of that family , that has been the sole focus from all .........and THAT alone tarnishes the memory ,in FACT it has had an uncanny effect in that when the foucs has been on the hate of the family ,it makes you forget what the whole point was ...yeah thats real SAD.

Bolding mine.

Hope you can find your way back. :seeya:

[Neffy]

Just my opinion and I like Richard Grund and Jesse, too, but I surely do not think Richard should have gone in as far as he did in his statement about tomorrow. There were things he said that he should have been above saying at all. I realize he's probably very hurt about tomorrow AND about things that have been said regarding his family by the Anthonys but a simple statement saying he had confirmed it was true he was on the disinvited list and he nor his family would not be attending in keeping with the wishes of the family. It would have been alright to say that he was going to join a group over on Suburban, but then he should have put a period right there. Again, JMO

Of all people he has every right. Cindy & George have thrown Jesse under the bus as the murderer/kidnapper. I thought he held back as I wouldn't have been so polite.

[TeenyNRossi]

I've not read it but from NG tonight or JVM it was said that they used to draw on hearts on the outside of the dead animal. So I am thinking, there had to be tape involved, they wouldnt have written on the bags...

I think that the story is most likely true. It's one thing that might just link her to this type of burial that she actually thought it was fitting to let Caylee rot in the elements, with her little pets from childhood.

A very creepy thought, if true.

Kat

I may be wrong, but I thought it was said that they put "Sage" I think it was a hamster in a ziplock baggie - then in a paper bag & drew hearts on the paper bag...someone on the panel also mentioned why Kiomarie would not have told this to LE earlier (prior to the tabloid paper reporting). I would hope maybe she did & it just hasn't come out in any reports or doc dumps??

[happy2bme]

RG is a special soul with good intentions. there is one sad thing you brought to mind though ,when you spoke of tarnishing the memory of Caylee ...I get lost on what a good memory or thought of Caylee may be ,because all I have heard since this case started is the HATE thrown around toward members of that family , that has been the sole focus from all .........and THAT alone tarnishes the memory ,in FACT it has had an uncanny effect in that when the foucs has been on the hate of the family ,it makes you forget what the whole point was ...yeah thats real SAD.

Maybe you should vent to the family, DG instead of the posters.

[bluwaters]

Of all people he has every right. Cindy & George have thrown Jesse under the bus as the murderer/kidnapper. I thought he held back as I wouldn't have been so polite.
First they tried to trick him into being Caylee's father, but he didn't mind because he loved her anyway. Then they try to indict him.
Richard and Jesse were family to Caylee.
I thought Richard was on point.
He has been along, IMO.

[Neffy]

I have a feeling Suburban is going to be one crowded street tomorrow.

I've thought this even before Lenny or Grund mentioned anything.

[5boxersmom]

I was like this :w00t::w00t: after reading Casey's statement earlier I called Caylee Casey in one of my post. :rolleyes:

I knew then it was time to walk away for awhile.

I didn't watch NG either. I figure I will catch it later. Anything new on her show?

tia

[Daffodil]

Daffodil, I'm trying like you wouldn't believe to get my teenage son to GET your sig line....UGH~~

Well, you know nice does matter. It's important to try to be nice. You never know what kind of day another person has had. You don't know their life story is. You don't know the last time they were patted on the back or someone just smiled at them for no reason.

It's just as important to be nice to family and friends, obviously.

You might want to tell you son how caring and nice you think he is. And when he shows it, make sure you let him know how proud you are of him. But that age is tough, but don't give up.

Sorry for O/T. Maybe all the A's needed this to be their motto.

[Unperson1984]

Just my opinion and I like Richard Grund and Jesse, too, but I surely do not think Richard should have gone in as far as he did in his statement about tomorrow. There were things he said that he should have been above saying at all. I realize he's probably very hurt about tomorrow AND about things that have been said regarding his family by the Anthonys but a simple statement saying he had confirmed it was true he was on the disinvited list and he nor his family would not be attending in keeping with the wishes of the family. It would have been alright to say that he was going to join a group over on Suburban, but then he should have put a period right there. Again, JMO

Unless something was heard while I was gone, the only person claiming to know who isn't welcome tomorrow is Padilla. I hope Rev. Grund isn't placing too much faith in what Lenny says.

[Neffy]

First they tried to trick him into being Caylee's father, but he didn't mind because he loved her anyway. Then they try to indict him.
Richard and Jesse were family to Caylee.
I thought Richard was on point.
He has been along, IMO.

That's right I wasn't even considering the "tricking".

Yes, the Grunds have been Anthonyized all right. That's more then any family should have to take from them and for what. They were in their cross hairs.

[Tracian]

RG is a special soul with good intentions. there is one sad thing you brought to mind though ,when you spoke of tarnishing the memory of Caylee ...I get lost on what a good memory or thought of Caylee may be ,because all I have heard since this case started is the HATE thrown around toward members of that family , that has been the sole focus from all .........and THAT alone tarnishes the memory ,in FACT it has had an uncanny effect in that when the foucs has been on the hate of the family ,it makes you forget what the whole point was ...yeah thats real SAD.



I for one am sick of the spin 'Hate for the family' complete and utter NONSENSE.

I don't hate Cindy and George because they raised Casey...I don't even 'hate' them for having a hard time accepting what their daughter so obviously did...what I despise...what I loath...is the way that they LIED, MISLED and ATTACKED anyone and everyone...to the point of making it the 'fault' of those that should get off their 'A$$es' to look for Caylee..When they never got off theirs to look for her...

The way that THEY and THEY alone put out that 'WE HAVE THE KIDNAPPERS UNDER SURVALIENCE' and put the pictures of innocent children out there...

The way that the behaved not just to the very same media and public they asked for help...but Cindy asking LE..."Do I intimidate you?" and calling Tim Miller a 'drunk' long before his daughter went missing and was later found murdered...

And so many other disgusting comments and actions...not excluding that Cindy was sorry that she didn't give the 'dog's tooth brush' and purposely gave the common used hair brush...

Oh...I can go on and on...finding the car...smelling death...two 911 calls BEFORE the third that reports a missing child...forced to leave work..because well, Casey needed to have her chance to explain...

The search of the yard, washing clothes before calling LE...


All the things one does when desperate to locate a missing child...Oh..that's right...Casey, Cindy and George COULD not say anything...because they were protecting Caylee...never mind Cindy's 'Cameos' and other claims...apparently these kidnappers lived in an igloo that didn't get any kind of media feed, I mean, they COULD not tell LE or the FBI...but they sure as heck could put their faces before any camera in the continental United States.

Enough already..this excuse after excuse for poor Cindy and George...Poor Cindy and George were not dumped like trash in a vacant lot with duct tape around their recovered skulls...Poor Cindy and George were not the obvious pawn between a twisted child and her controlling mother. Poor George was 'missing' less than a day before, not Cindy his wife, but his lawyer reported him missing...Yeah, quite the Norman Rockwell picture this family presents....

What is SAD is that the only people that ever sought or continue to seek justice for a child whose life was cut so short...are people that only know her from pictures and video...everyone else that 'knew and loved her' Well, it's all about them..


(I exclude the Greatgrandparents, and other extended family members from that statement.)

[Cury-us Coyote]

Unless something was heard while I was gone, the only person claiming to know who isn't welcome tomorrow is Padilla. I hope Rev. Grund isn't placing too much faith in what Lenny says.

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=469739855

[VII]

How is the church going to deal with all of this? The impressions that they do not have their doors open for anyone and everyone. The wacky protestors.

As far as that wacky group that protests soldiers funerals......if I lived near where they planned to attend a soldier's funeral.,....I would try to get as many people as I could to show up with big, huge signs thanking the soldier and his/her family.

There's a branch of "them" in Kansas and last year, a soldier was being buried in a town near here. "They" started flyers around with their intent to protest his funeral...
Welp,
they were met by a HEARD of bikers
and that was all it took....

Protest cancelled :thumbup:

Perhaps the bikers in the Orlando area can ban together and show some support in keeping this kind of trash at bay ....

t'will be interesting....
Course,
I have to WORK and will have to rely on the ruruns.
Don't think I'll MISS anything...
do you?

7

[CelticDawn]

Neffy. you beat me to the finish line. THEY ARE ALL LIARS.

didnt Conway say they were in contact with Casey? "THEY COMMUNICATE THRU MR BAEZ AND MS BADEN'......

http://www.wftv.com/video/18659821/index.html 12:17

ahhhh *throwing my hands up*.....they are all liars.....whats to be believed......

and then its revealed she is cremated while Conway sits there and says oh the state said they are free to go ahead and, he uses the term: bury her...they havent thought about that yet...insanity.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

I know this is a long ways back....but who says she was already cremated..??

Im so confused..!!

[TeenyNRossi]

Well, you know nice does matter. It's important to try to be nice. You never know what kind of day another person has had. You don't know their life story is. You don't know the last time they were patted on the back or someone just smiled at them for no reason.

It's just as important to be nice to family and friends, obviously.

You might want to tell you son how caring and nice you think he is. And when he shows it, make sure you let him know how proud you are of him. But that age is tough, but don't give up.

Sorry for O/T. Maybe all the A's needed this to be their motto.

Not O/T...I believe a little niceness goes a long way & being kind to others (especially others within your family/household) teaches respect...not to be mean, but frankly I've not seen much respect from the Anthony's during this...the media has gotten a bit out of hand as well, but that is to be expected...it's what they live for.

O/T here, but has anyone seen Swing Vote? Seeing the media reaction in that movie reminded me of this case...just outrageous!

[Janz]

That's right I wasn't even considering the "tricking".

Yes, the Grunds have been Anthonyized all right. That's more then any family should have to take from them and for what. They were in their cross hairs.

..which makes me glad Rev Grund talked about pureness of heart. How dare Cindy of all people talk about pureness of heart, after trying to implicate these young people. jeeezzz.

[Daffodil]

I for one am sick of the spin 'Hate for the family' complete and utter NONSENSE.

I don't hate Cindy and George because they raised Casey...I don't even 'hate' them for having a hard time accepting what their daughter so obviously did...what I despise...what I loath...is the way that they LIED, MISLED and ATTACKED anyone and everyone...to the point of making it the 'fault' of those that should get off their 'A$$es' to look for Caylee..When they never got off theirs to look for her...

The way that THEY and THEY alone put out that 'WE HAVE THE KIDNAPPERS UNDER SURVALIENCE' and put the pictures of innocent children out there...

The way that the behaved not just to the very same media and public they asked for help...but Cindy asking LE..."Do I intimidate you?" and calling Tim Miller a 'drunk' long before his daughter went missing and was later found murdered...

And so many other disgusting comments and actions...not excluding that Cindy was sorry that she didn't give the 'dog's tooth brush' and purposely gave the common used hair brush...

Oh...I can go on and on...finding the car...smelling death...two 911 calls BEFORE the third that reports a missing child...forced to leave work..because well, Casey needed to have her chance to explain...

The search of the yard, washing clothes before calling LE...


All the things one does when desperate to locate a missing child...Oh..that's right...Casey, Cindy and George COULD not say anything...because they were protecting Caylee...never mind Cindy's 'Cameos' and other claims...apparently these kidnappers lived in an igloo that didn't get any kind of media feed, I mean, they COULD not tell LE or the FBI...but they sure as heck could put their faces before any camera in the continental United States.

Enough already..this excuse after excuse for poor Cindy and George...Poor Cindy and George were not dumped like trash in a vacant lot with duct tape around their recovered skulls...Poor Cindy and George were not the obvious pawn between a twisted child and her controlling mother. Poor George was 'missing' less than a day before, not Cindy his wife, but his lawyer reported him missing...Yeah, quite the Norman Rockwell picture this family presents....

What is SAD is that the only people that ever sought or continue to seek justice for a child whose life was cut so short...are people that only know her from pictures and video...everyone else that 'knew and loved her' Well, it's all about them..


(I exclude the Greatgrandparents, and other extended family members from that statement.)

VERY well said!!!!

[Mamie]

I respectfully disagree. Someone needs to stand up to the A's for all the lies they spit out. And I think it did that respectfully. Most people know this is not a memorial for Caylee. Its a charade for cindy and a jab at casey. Even tho I believe cindy will have the mother of the year at this charade.
jmo

His statement is not going to "stand up to the Anthonys" in any way. Now, there were parts of his statement that were truly beautiful but when it came to the part about not letting them enjoy his being escorted off by security guards----or whatever it was that was his particular wording, but that's close, I think it had no place in the statement. He's better than they are by a long shot and just should have shown that by not having anything petty in his statement. I respect your point of view.

Casey is not attending this memorial (that's what you meant by mother of the year?) I don't think there's any plans for her to leave her cell and attend. JMO

[della_17_99]

make that five.

ETA that includes 16 years of Catholic school.

Six. :closedeyes:

[need2no]

I know this is a long ways back....but who says she was already cremated..??

Im so confused..!!

casey did:

Casey Anthony's Statement On Caylee's Memorial

http://www.wftv.com/news/18675431/detail.html

[Mamie]

Unless something was heard while I was gone, the only person claiming to know who isn't welcome tomorrow is Padilla. I hope Rev. Grund isn't placing too much faith in what Lenny says.

No, read his statement on here. There's a link for it but it's posted too, I think on page 18? RG said he confirmed he was on the disinvited list.

[?noanswer]

There's a branch of "them" in Kansas and last year, a soldier was being buried in a town near here. "They" started flyers around with their intent to protest his funeral...
Welp,
they were met by a HEARD of bikers
and that was all it took....

Protest cancelled :thumbup:

Perhaps the bikers in the Orlando area can ban together and show some support in keeping this kind of trash at bay ....

t'will be interesting....
Course,
I have to WORK and will have to rely on the ruruns.
Don't think I'll MISS anything...
do you?

7

I read on another site that the family has to request the bikers to come to the protest. JMO

[Unperson1984]

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=469739855

Thanks.

It's not right, the Grunds loved Caylee.

[CelticDawn]

There's a branch of "them" in Kansas and last year, a soldier was being buried in a town near here. "They" started flyers around with their intent to protest his funeral...
Welp,
they were met by a HEARD of bikers
and that was all it took....

Protest cancelled :thumbup:

Perhaps the bikers in the Orlando area can ban together and show some support in keeping this kind of trash at bay ....

t'will be interesting....
Course,
I have to WORK and will have to rely on the ruruns.
Don't think I'll MISS anything...
do you?

7

I know this is bad....but a few blasts of rock salt out of a twelve gauge might just do the trick...

They are cowards anyway....and GOD DONT LIKE UGLY
!

[?noanswer]

I know this is a long ways back....but who says she was already cremated..??

Im so confused..!!

JB held a PC today and read a statement. In that statement KC says she knows she has been cremated. I haven't seen it confirmed by anyone else. There is probably a link to JB's PC on the links page. JMO

[VII]

I know this is bad....but a few blasts of rock salt out of a twelve gauge might just do the trick...

They are cowards anyway....and GOD DONT LIKE UGLY
!

LOL ...
Ya know ...
I've never heard of anyone being mortally wounded by a blast of rock salt ....
YEP
lock n load
:lol:

[Pruddennce]

This is Horrible! Richard Grund is on this "list" dis invited? He is the ONE who cared for little Caylee and first called Casey on her chit, for NOT being there for her own child. It's a travesty. Unforgivable; horrible display by this family to let the one person who actually "cared" for this child to be disallowed at her memorial service. How awfully sad.

Kat
:rose:

the so-called uninvited people should be thankful she did them a favor....now they dont have to excuse themselves for one reason or another.....

and I wouldnt classify this as a memorial service. IMO

why this is considered newsworthy is beyond my comprehension. all of the families of loved ones that have been abducted, found murdered or not found at all should be picketing news stations for giving Cindy and her clowns airtime.

it breaks my heart that families in real need of exposure are relegated to the back of the bus, or not on the bus at all when it concerns precious airtime about their missing loved one.

their own daughter is THE defendant being held behind bars for the murder of her own child. and they walk the land with an air of arrogance.

families with missing loved ones must be aghast at such behaviour and saddened while angered that the 'media' spends time on this.

its heartbreaking for the people that are TRULY SUFFERING; watching the media cover a 'memorial' that has been set up with PROVISIONS, press releases of defendant and parents as if they are royalty, how can they not feel their loved ones are considered UNREMARKABLE.

the media has turned into rag mags on wheels. how shameful. journalists might as well refer to the anthonys as the descendants of a a supreme being, abducted and returned to earth...

and yes, there will be people who buy that story...just like they are buying 'into this'......

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Mamie]

My bold. No. I meant casey in pictures or slides. Or mentioning in her "speech".

Ahhh! I misunderstood and thought WOW----I must be on another planet not to have known Casey was going to be there! Oh yeah. Well, CNN is covering this at 10 AM Eastern??? I can catch an hour of it before I have to leave for work. Gonna tape it anyway though.

[bluwaters]

I for one am sick of the spin 'Hate for the family' complete and utter NONSENSE.

<snipped for space>

Wow Tracian,
Thanks for the memories, as Bob Hope used to croon.
Well said.

I have to say, if ever there is a time to lay hatred and differences aside, it is at a funeral! My dad feuded with a neighbor for 20 years. What a shock when that same neighbor showed at my dad's funeral service.
We were all touched.
If this isn't the time and place for reconciliation then I don't know what the point of a church service is about anyway.

[need2no]

His statement is not going to "stand up to the Anthonys" in any way. Now, there were parts of his statement that were truly beautiful but when it came to the part about not letting them enjoy his being escorted off by security guards----or whatever it was that was his particular wording, but that's close, I think it had no place in the statement. He's better than they are by a long shot and just should have shown that by not having anything petty in his statement. I respect your point of view.



~snipped~

As my mother always says: Don't ever lower yourself to someone else's standard.

[Neffy]

I know this is a long ways back....but who says she was already cremated..??

Im so confused..!!

Baez read a statement from Casey. Her declaration.

[legalmania]

casey did:

Casey Anthony's Statement On Caylee's Memorial

http://www.wftv.com/news/18675431/detail.html

of course Lenny said he knew two weeks before but he didn't want to say anything until he had proof.

[Daffodil]

Good night everyone. I think none of us are really looking forward to tomorrow even thought we will be watching.

I will have Caylee in my prayers throughout the day as I have done in the past. I will also have the entire Anthony family in my prayers hoping that they will embrace the truth and begin to heal.

[Tracian]

Wow Tracian,
Thanks for the memories, as Bob Hope used to croon.
Well said.

I have to say, if ever there is a time to lay hatred and differences aside, it is at a funeral! My dad feuded with a neighbor for 20 years. What a shock when that same neighbor showed at my dad's funeral service.
We were all touched.
If this isn't the time and place for reconciliation then I don't know what the point of a church service is about anyway.


That is the thing...this is a time to heal...to let bygones be bygones...to embrace a life ended to quickly...it is not the Cindy show...it is not the Casey show...it is a time to celebrate the gift of life, to remember all those things that will keep the memory alive..

To exclude the Grunds in particular is just cruel...


If they want to embrace the memory of a loving child...well the first step is to offer that innocents and love...not to grind axes.

Your dads neighbor sounds like a good guy...and apparently, he knew your dad was a good guy too, otherwise he would not have bothered.

[KittyMom]

I truly hope that FBCO is empty tomorrow. If people want to truly honor Caylee's life then do so in a way that helps a hurting child...post fliers for missing kids, give blood, gather some clothing and donate it to homeless shelter, buy some food and give it to a food pantry, or sign a check and mail it to TES. Don't participate in the Cindy show.

[Pruddennce]

His statement is not going to "stand up to the Anthonys" in any way. Now, there were parts of his statement that were truly beautiful but when it came to the part about not letting them enjoy his being escorted off by security guards----or whatever it was that was his particular wording, but that's close, I think it had no place in the statement. He's better than they are by a long shot and just should have shown that by not having anything petty in his statement. I respect your point of view.

Casey is not attending this memorial (that's what you meant by mother of the year?) I don't think there's any plans for her to leave her cell and attend. JMO

it had its rightful place in that statement. IMO

its downright exhausting to hear how other people should be 'restrained' in their comments. while the Anthonys and their attorney dictate to the masses. more should be said about their abhorrent behaviour. OUT LOUD.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Ionmhainn]

To quote Richard Grund:

"I have always felt it was the family's right to have their funeral before anyone else does anything. To my dismay and surprise a Public Memorial is being staged before a private family funeral."

Two words. Mr. Grund. "Blanchard Park."

[need2no]

of course Lenny said he knew two weeks before but he didn't want to say anything until he had proof.

Yes, he did mention that.
Sure would like to know if he has inside sources, and if so, who they are.

[CelticDawn]

Thank yall for the info about the alleged cremation.

Who knows whether Casey even wrote that drivel.....Remember baez is the mouthpiece and he seems to be going off in 3 or 4 different directions at once <as far as the case is concerned anyway> <and Baden likes her history lessons>

conway is saying that her remains are at the funeral home still....

SOMEBODY is LYING

....and at this point I couldnt care WHICH ON(s)....because within the next breath the story wikll change anyway...!!!

[Neffy]

To quote Richard Grund:

"I have always felt it was the family's right to have their funeral before anyone else does anything. To my dismay and surprise a Public Memorial is being staged before a private family funeral."

Two words. Mr. Grund. "Blanchard Park."

:confused:

Caylee wasn't even found yet and all the evidence pointed to her being deceased. I thought it was very appropriate.

This is no where near the same.

You have Caylee's remains but Cindy stages this over the top farce of a Memorial?

[newsjunkie]

To quote Richard Grund:

"I have always felt it was the family's right to have their funeral before anyone else does anything. To my dismay and surprise a Public Memorial is being staged before a private family funeral."

Two words. Mr. Grund. "Blanchard Park."



He considered that a vigil!

[Cury-us Coyote]

JB held a PC today and read a statement. In that statement KC says she knows she has been cremated. I haven't seen it confirmed by anyone else. There is probably a link to JB's PC on the links page. JMO

Casey Anthony: 'I miss Caylee every day'
However, her parents planned otherwise, are hosting a public memorial and may have had the child cremated.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-statement-020909,0,2861870.story

[TeenyNRossi]

the so-called uninvited people should be thankful she did them a favor....now they dont have to excuse themselves for one reason or another.....

and I wouldnt classify this as a memorial service. IMO

why this is considered newsworthy is beyond my comprehension. all of the families of loved ones that have been abducted, found murdered or not found at all should be picketing news stations for giving Cindy and her clowns airtime.

Respectfully snipped...


My 21 yr old son is home from school visiting...while we were cooking dinner (yes he helps cook when home as he is trying to learn how to not to live on fast food when not home)...could not believe the attention to this memorial.

He's only vaguely aware that this little child was murdered (that's due to me attempting to keep up). He, and I'm sure many others at his age & situation (school takes up so much of their mind) don't follow these things...

His biggest issue was "why is there so much media attention to this...putting this child to rest should be a private/family matter. 2nd was ... how can you have a public memorial & not make it public by banning certain individuals from attending...he looked at it like a public festival held at a park (he considers churches public property as they are normally not-for-profit and get government tax breaks)...unless someone came in with weapons or drugs, or after they were inside showed violent tendancies....they should be allowed to stay...

I guess at 21 he's got some pretty good points!

[legalmania]

Does anyone have a Boycott for Caylee sign??

Kat

Who would want to Boycott Caylee?

[Pruddennce]

of course Lenny said he knew two weeks before but he didn't want to say anything until he had proof.

yeah I said it too....and so did so and so....hundreds have said it.

right. NOT.

Lenny likes to hear Lenny and Lenny likes to hear Lenny...did I say Lenny likes to hear himself talk about what he 'KNEW?" <---past tense....

gawd.

so if he knew, was he going to get arrested by saying HEY EVERYONE, THEY CREMATED HER. I KNOW IT.

oh he is so, so Lenny.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[newsjunkie]

Has anyone noticed that in Casey's statement or in Cindy's eulogy there was not a single thankyou?
Not to searchers, to anyone even RK?
Not to LE who helped George or to the ......I could go on and on

[CelticDawn]

To quote Richard Grund:

"I have always felt it was the family's right to have their funeral before anyone else does anything. To my dismay and surprise a Public Memorial is being staged before a private family funeral."

Two words. Mr. Grund. "Blanchard Park."

she wasnt even legally deceased at that point....no body found....


I thought that was a "prayer service" ???

[KittyMom]

Who would want to Boycott Caylee?

Boycott for Caylee is what he poster typed.

[Tracian]

To quote Richard Grund:

"I have always felt it was the family's right to have their funeral before anyone else does anything. To my dismay and surprise a Public Memorial is being staged before a private family funeral."

Two words. Mr. Grund. "Blanchard Park."



Simple Statement

Mr. Grund is not 'Family'; and it was not a funeral...it was a vigil.

[KittyMom]

Has anyone noticed that in Casey's statement or in Cindy's eulogy there was not a single thankyou?
Not to searchers, to anyone even RK?
Not to LE who helped George or to the ......I could go on and on

Sociopaths don't give thanks, they just accept them.

[bchand]

Has anyone noticed that in Casey's statement or in Cindy's eulogy there was not a single thankyou?
Not to searchers, to anyone even RK?
Not to LE who helped George or to the ......I could go on and on

Casey will never thank the public. She knows the public has had her number since day 31.

[need2no]

she wasnt even legally deceased at that point....no body found....


I thought that was a "prayer service" ???



ORLANDO, Fla. -- Celebrity bounty hunter Leonard Padilla on Tuesday held a prayer vigil for Caylee Anthony, a day after he angered the missing girl's grandparents by calling it a memorial service.
Padilla, who once bailed out Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, from jail, said he made a poor choice of words in describing the service, which was held at Blanchard Park to honor Caylee.
Richard Grund led the prayer vigil, quoting scripture and talking about Caylee.


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17945241/detail.html

[need2no]

Sociopaths don't give thanks, they just accept them.

So true...they have a sense of entitlement, no need to say thanks.

[Tracian]

This family isn't capable of the things you (and I, and many others) wish for, imo.

I think anyone who is hoping Caylee will be acknowledged and cherished in death, as she should have been in life, will be terribly discouraged by tomorrow's event.


I am so completely amazed by this...never would I believe it if I saw it on a cheesy soap...but this is real...and I have to pinch myself...because I can't believe I am awake, it must be a sick dream.

Caylee is in a better place NOW...it just makes me wonder...and sick at the same time...what was her short life? What did she see? What did she hear?

And I don't want to hear about pictures and snippets of video...Big fat hairy deal...that is not a gauge to judge a child's life..all the stuff not caught on tape is..

And from what I see...this little girl never stood a chance....

[CelticDawn]

Who would want to Boycott Caylee?

FOR is what she asked...

[Tia]

Has anyone noticed that in Casey's statement or in Cindy's eulogy there was not a single thankyou?
Not to searchers, to anyone even RK?
Not to LE who helped George or to the ......I could go on and on

Yes. Self-serving as usual IMO.

[TeenyNRossi]

So true...they have a sense of entitlement, no need to say thanks.

Weird question, but would the opposite be? I work with a gentleman that thanks everyone for everything...even things that don't require thanks...he's a very nice guy, but I've wondered about this...

Maybe someone like this, spending any time with KC in her formative years, could have helped? Wishful thinking probably....

[openminded]

In the statement read by Baez from Casey, she said that she told her parents that she wanted a casket for Caylee and didn't want a public memorial. I was under the impression that they had not spoken on the phone or in visits at the jail. I always thought that was odd that Cindy wouldn't reach out to Casey (especially since she seemed to think she was innocent). I wonder when Casey expressed her wishes for Caylee's remains and burial. Does anyone know? Thanks!

I don't know the answer to your question but it never seemed logical to me that there has been absolutely no contact between Cindy and Casey since Casey was re-arrested in October. I could never see Cindy letting it go that long.

Perhaps Jose has been passing notes back and forth as he supposedly did before Casey was released the first time on bond.

[CelticDawn]

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Celebrity bounty hunter Leonard Padilla on Tuesday held a prayer vigil for Caylee Anthony, a day after he angered the missing girl's grandparents by calling it a memorial service.
Padilla, who once bailed out Caylee's mother, Casey Anthony, from jail, said he made a poor choice of words in describing the service, which was held at Blanchard Park to honor Caylee.
Richard Grund led the prayer vigil, quoting scripture and talking about Caylee.


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17945241/detail.html


thank you for the clarification

BUT what did he know that we didnt to make him use that terminology....????
Something made him say that....

[Tracian]

Has anyone noticed that in Casey's statement or in Cindy's eulogy there was not a single thankyou?
Not to searchers, to anyone even RK?
Not to LE who helped George or to the ......I could go on and on


You're right...but now, be fair...Cindy is entitled...she is all and everything...did you ever read her myspace...she is the long suffering mother/grandmother...no one in the world knows more about suffering than Cindy...she is the center of the universe...she is the only one that counts...

Whoa...golly...Cindy/Casey...two sides of the same tarnished coin...

[RiverWalk]

You know what speaking of this, I still will never ever understand why LE did not do a grid search. We all knew about "the zone" long long ago.
I am going to say around August, maybe sooner. We knew about this burial ground. We knew this was an old Party spot of Casey A's. And LE did not search it, or do a grid search 2 miles out from the home. Even though we all know that most bodies are found within two miles of the home. not 100s of miles away, not at the airport, not in the park, but in the backyard, or thereabouts. Places Familiar. Almost always.

It's going to haunt me for sure, because some of us actually talked about "the zone" we asked please look for her, and then Fay came.
Even though, that spot should have been scoured early on. Caylee should have been found. I truly espect the defense to use this against the state, the most in this case. They will use this as the ODDI defense. I think Casey A is going to walk.

Kat

Here's her interview:
http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:x3lgDa8PYr0J:www.momlogic.com/blog_content/pdf/kcruz.pdf+interview+%22kio+marie+Cruz%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a

[Pruddennce]

Has anyone noticed that in Casey's statement or in Cindy's eulogy there was not a single thankyou?
Not to searchers, to anyone even RK?
Not to LE who helped George or to the ......I could go on and on


news, I respectfully must say this: it has no place in a eulogy, IMO. neither does the statement about 'other children'. its supposed to be about laying her to rest. it should not be a platform for thank you's....that should have come way back in January, publically. if they cared.

in fact Im confused about what her statement is supposed to be: a eulogy sent to the press....why? in case it wasnt covered?

secondly, stating its a time for FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO OPENLY EXPRESS AND SHARE THEIR LOVE FOR HER.....

they are unable to share IN PRIVATE?

yes. IMO because.....THEY NEED AN AUDIENCE. because.....

they dont have any friends (where were they).....

she is expecting 5000 of Caylee's closest friends to show up?

oh good grief.

Im kicking my soapbox away.....grrrr...its all so disgraceful, I think Ive beat the drum once too many :D

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Oregongal]

No, read his statement on here. There's a link for it but it's posted too, I think on page 18? RG said he confirmed he was on the disinvited list.

I just read his statement. He did confirm that neither he or his family is welcome tomorrow.
Even signed up to his MySpace so I could send him a thank you for his love, compassion and respect of Caylee and for not bashing or saying anything negative about his 'unwelcome' at the Cindy memorial.
While doing this I thought how RG, JG and LP are truly the good guys. As well as Tim M.
Funny, not ha-ha, how Cindy has banned the good guys and wants only strangers. Just made me wonder how her mind is working.
I would think she would want all the most prominant people who have been so good to and done so much for Caylee to be front and center at that church tomorrow. Yet, she chooses to have them banned.
I don't get it.

[Neffy]

Hi boxmom, NG show; the lady producer, is it laticia nance, or lance??
something like that ( sorry ) she said no cremation! im real confused!! BC told her this....

Who knows where the truth lies. They all look like a bunch of fools.

Each and every Anthony immediate family member to their lawyers.

[funkyflower]

I'm confused now. NG is doing a show tomorrow, "Special Coverage of The Caylee Anthony Memorial Service" at 12pmET.
They are broadcasting the service on local news in Florida only though right? Which if so, this is going to be web streamed?
Is NG just going to be another TH in the studio, connecting out live with LP at his makeshift memorial and have a van in the church parking lot for outside coverage or what?

Thanks in advance, and if you have links to this.

[TeenyNRossi]

I never did get to find out about the copy charges on the finances of Casey A's account in jail. It looks to me like Baez is so cheap he uses those copies to work this case. I am wondering if that's the case. He has complained before about the "fee's" of copies in this case. When you log onto FL site for her account, her jail account finances? There are all these charges for "copies"....

It's bizarre. And, I think that Baez is really a very poor advocate of the Law. Truly I do. I can't wait to see him disbarred actually. I'm not the only one who feels this way. I dont care what "nationality he is" or how many links on his own page dont work. He really has done great damage to his own client today. Seems that even Baden cannot rein him in?

Kat

I checked it out earlier & there is still $52.00 unpaid from October for these copies...I tried to reconcile it with the 2nd case where $490.00 is paid & up to date, but ... it looks like $52 is still unpaid.
Government agencies let you know when you're past due.

[CelticDawn]

You're right...but now, be fair...Cindy is entitled...she is all and everything...did you ever read her myspace...she is the long suffering mother/grandmother...no one in the world knows more about suffering than Cindy...she is the center of the universe...she is the only one that counts...

Whoa...golly...Cindy/Casey...two sides of the same tarnished coin...

I have REALLY tried to be sympathetic towards Cindy!....Ive actually lit a candle for her before....said a prayer.....but FOR THE LIFE OF ME I cant help but feel VERY STRONG RESENTMENT towards that woman!...

<casey is a dead issue as far as Im concerned and doesnt matter>

Just so I dont go to bed in this mode Im getting my check to TES ready...

[Tia]

I never did get to find out about the copy charges on the finances of Casey A's account in jail. It looks to me like Baez is so cheap he uses those copies to work this case. I am wondering if that's the case. He has complained before about the "fee's" of copies in this case. When you log onto FL site for her account, her jail account finances? There are all these charges for "copies"....

It's bizarre. And, I think that Baez is really a very poor advocate of the Law. Truly I do. I can't wait to see him disbarred actually. I'm not the only one who feels this way. I dont care what "nationality he is" or how many links on his own page dont work. He really has done great damage to his own client today. Seems that even Baden cannot rein him in?

Kat

He is a mess of a lawyer, I agree. This entire case has disgusted me to the point of just ignoring it, until I saw Cindy's eulogy, her "foundation" and Casey's statment today.

IMO, they are going to milk Caylee's death for every penny and bit of sympathy they can and we are all supposed to over-look Casey's party photo's, not reporting Caylee missing for 31 days and Cindys arguements with everyone who is trying to help her find Caylee, among other things........

Ick.

JMO

[Pruddennce]

I don't know the answer to your question but it never seemed logical to me that there has been absolutely no contact between Cindy and Casey since Casey was re-arrested in October. I could never see Cindy letting it go that long.

Perhaps Jose has been passing notes back and forth as he supposedly did before Casey was released the first time on bond.

they are all liars, so however you wish to accept the statement by Conway: they have been in contact with Casey thru Baez and Baden. its in his press release about the memorial. (I believe I posted the link earlier in the thread.)

fact or fiction.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Dells]

Dennis was found guilty of posing as a police officer and pulling over women in fake traffic stops. Yeah, I think that's the kind of guy who should be looking after troubled teens. If they aren't troubled when they get there, he'll make sure they are by the time they leave.


This guy shouldn't be trusted to look after dead worms.

Bolding mine....

:laugh: That's too funny, but also so true as well.:unsure:

[Dells]

I love how Casey wants a headstone so she can visit it. Like she is ever going to be free to do that.

I was thinking the same thing. She is never going to get out of jail. I guess it was her way of professing her innocence, perhaps?

[Oregongal]

~snipped~

As my mother always says: Don't ever lower yourself to someone else's standard.

Wow n2n, my mom always said the same thing. I have remembered that each and every time I was in a situation where I needed to take the high road....even if my emotions were pushing me to do otherwise.
Thanks for the memory.
:wub:

[CelticDawn]

I don't know the answer to your question but it never seemed logical to me that there has been absolutely no contact between Cindy and Casey since Casey was re-arrested in October. I could never see Cindy letting it go that long.

Perhaps Jose has been passing notes back and forth as he supposedly did before Casey was released the first time on bond.


Didnt he carry that laptop of his into the jail???

[Tracian]

I don't think she stood a chance, either. Perhaps her almost three years weren't completely horrible, but I suspect had she lived, her next three and the three after that and the three after that would've been progressively more so.

I, too, am weary of hearing about the pictures. As you point out, photos do not depict the totality of the situation. And in fact, if what goes on when the camera is off is a complete contradiction to the big happy smiles when the camera is on, the whole thing takes on a sinister glow.

Caylee is gone. Casey will spend her life behind bars. And Cindy is 50 and probably past her prime trouble making years.

What scares me is how many more Cindys and Caseys there might be out there. And how many more Caylees.


I have often wondered...WHAT if....Casey gets off because of the efforts of Cindy and George...what if...she has another child...

The thought keeps me awake at night...

[bluwaters]

You know what speaking of this, I still will never ever understand why LE did not do a grid search. We all knew about "the zone" long long ago.
I am going to say around August, maybe sooner. We knew about this burial ground. We knew this was an old Party spot of Casey A's. And LE did not search it, or do a grid search 2 miles out from the home. Even though we all know that most bodies are found within two miles of the home. not 100s of miles away, not at the airport, not in the park, but in the backyard, or thereabouts. Places Familiar. Almost always.

It's going to haunt me for sure, because some of us actually talked about "the zone" we asked please look for her, and then Fay came.
Even though, that spot should have been scoured early on. Caylee should have been found. I truly espect the defense to use this against the state, the most in this case. They will use this as the ODDI defense. I think Casey A is going to walk.

Kat
I know what you mean Kat. It was frustrating that the grid search was not done. I have to remember though that LE was 31 days late getting this case. The urgency was just not there as if LE thought there was a chance that Caylee was alive. They did search some of the area.
I don't know.
There were many posters here wondering why there was no grid search.
I think LE did the best that they could with what they had.
What a shame that the A's did not try to organize a search with all those volunteers willing to help as soon as the sad news was out.

[Oregongal]

I truly hope that FBCO is empty tomorrow. If people want to truly honor Caylee's life then do so in a way that helps a hurting child...post fliers for missing kids, give blood, gather some clothing and donate it to homeless shelter, buy some food and give it to a food pantry, or sign a check and mail it to TES. Don't participate in the Cindy show.

Wonderful ideas Kitty. I would also love to see a ton of people on Suberban Drive tomorrow.
For Caylee
:rose:

[Dells]

LOL, she is gonna be stunned when she gets to trial...

Absolutely! Plus she be doubly stunned when they read her the guilty verdict and sentence her to LWOP.

[CelticDawn]

It's almost midnight in Orlando.

I'm wondering how George Anthony is feeling right now.







I do not know why I'm wondering that. I just am. :unsure:

I still feel sympathy for george...

[Dells]

Casey's statement without all the fluff:
I miss
I can't
I want
I miss
I allowed
I told
I wanted
I wanted
I could
I asked
I know
I still don't want
I can't stop
I truly hope

Wow, every sentence started with the word I. Surprise, surprise!:rolleyes:

[Pruddennce]

Im still trying to figure out exactly where Cindy was headed with Casey the day she was finally taken in.

Kat

above respectfully snipped....

and what was the first thing out Cindy's mouth????

she starts yelling at the media to tell their fellow journalist: NO MORE EXCLUSIVES FOR HOLLY!

there it is folks: Cindy and her priorities.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Unperson1984]

You know what speaking of this, I still will never ever understand why LE did not do a grid search. We all knew about "the zone" long long ago.
I am going to say around August, maybe sooner. We knew about this burial ground. We knew this was an old Party spot of Casey A's. And LE did not search it, or do a grid search 2 miles out from the home. Even though we all know that most bodies are found within two miles of the home. not 100s of miles away, not at the airport, not in the park, but in the backyard, or thereabouts. Places Familiar. Almost always.

It's going to haunt me for sure, because some of us actually talked about "the zone" we asked please look for her, and then Fay came.
Even though, that spot should have been scoured early on. Caylee should have been found. I truly espect the defense to use this against the state, the most in this case. They will use this as the ODDI defense. I think Casey A is going to walk.

Kat

I don't think so. Casey was the last person to be seen with Caylee, she didn't report Caylee as missing, the dead body was in her car, and she spent the next 31 days partying.

I think that's enough for any jury.

[CelticDawn]

I have often wondered...WHAT if....Casey gets off because of the efforts of Cindy and George...what if...she has another child...

The thought keeps me awake at night...

I dont condone anything vaguely like this...but if casey walks....I feel like nature will take its course....She wont have the chance to have another victim.

[Tracian]

I truly hope that FBCO is empty tomorrow. If people want to truly honor Caylee's life then do so in a way that helps a hurting child...post fliers for missing kids, give blood, gather some clothing and donate it to homeless shelter, buy some food and give it to a food pantry, or sign a check and mail it to TES. Don't participate in the Cindy show.


Excellent ideas...may I add...hug your children, adult children, nieces and nephews, or grandchildren a little extra tomorrow...encourage them, and tell them how proud you are...

And IF...and only IF you are concerned about someone..take that extra effort to confront them in a loving, caring way...or take that hard next step...truly...a life may depend on it.

I am going to sign off...I wish all of you peace tonight...even if we disagree on this case on some level...we all want to remember Caylee...and that gives us all 'pure hearts'.

See you all tomorrow...

[marinewife5]

I don't know how I feel about George. I really don't.

I'm right next to you on that...I want to have sympathy, but then my common sense kicks in...I just don't trust any of them at this point. The anthony's, their attorneys, their charities, etc.

jmo

[Tracian]

I dont condone anything vaguely like this...but if casey walks....I feel like nature will take its course....She wont have the chance to have another victim.


I wish I can have faith in that...but Diane Downs comes to mind...

[Ionmhainn]

I'm wondering what the real purpose of Casey's statement was, and would appreciate any thoughts any of you might like to share. I was boiling mad after hearing it. Does she really believe that there was even the slightest chance of being able to visit a grave? Her last sentence in particular was so condescending. If she really wants to "help" her parents, a confession might be a good start.
imo

[Unperson1984]

I'm wondering what the real purpose of Casey's statement was, and would appreciate any thoughts any of you might like to share. I was boiling mad after hearing it. Does she really believe that there was even the slightest chance of being able to visit a grave? Her last sentence in particular was so condescending. If she really wants to "help" her parents, a confession might be a good start.
imo

I wonder if her statement was issued in this manner because her family wouldn't read it at the memorial? Baez and Casey have known about the memorial for at least a week, why wait until today?

[Ionmhainn]

I wonder if her statement was issued in this manner because her family wouldn't read it at the memorial? Baez and Casey have known about the memorial for at least a week, why wait until today?


Yes, why today? Why at all for that matter? She absolutely confounds me! I know she's isolated, but she must be aware by now how the public feels towards her????

[Neffy]

I wonder if this is a set up.

Casey is going to be peppered all over this memorial, pic's vids and here's Casey all modesty and humble. Well mom and dad if that's what you need to do but I wish you didn't. But I love you and I can understand you need to do this.

I mean she wasn't really complaining but she understood. I'm listening to it but in Casey's voice the same tone she used in forgiving the Nanny .

I did't want YOU did. Everyone HEAR THAT. I LOVE MY FAMILY I LOVE CAYLEE AND I UNDERSTAND.

This also gets her out of writing any type of eulogy which you know would be a farce anyways.

IMO this is a Baez/Baden concoction.

[Ionmhainn]

Hey IO ltns :seeya:

I think CA is all about the chase. She loves being the center of attention especially in a forensics case. She loves cops. She loves CSI. She loved forensics. Probably, like Melinda D wanted to be a cop, and thought she was/is smarter than most. But sadly, she is not.

Her statement, is to say: I cant control my parents, I disagree with what they are doing, again, I did not condone this, this is not what I wanted, this is not what I asked them to do; again they have defied me. Again they will not listen to me. She demands to be heard. She continues to try to wrestle control of this situation, because Cindy has always ran her life. Down to the very food she fed caylee and whether it was "healthy" food or not (bagels cream cheese)

Casey wants to be in control. In taking Caylee's life, she took the one thing that Cindy had the most control over, Caylee. And in essence she gave herself life in taking Caylee's as we all saw and witnessed this was when Casey really began to "LIVE" and be free of George, Cindy and Caylee as well.

This is my observation, in short of the letter. Also, like TH said tonight, it was a bold attempt to take the focus again off of Caylee and put it front and center, on herself. The one thing she has never been able to do. Like she told George, he was the one thing "that had been missing for so long, now she had him back"

Yes, I do believe that abuse will be a huge factor in this case. From George and Lee, I do think we will hear of abuse in Casey A's life. And a daddy complex. Much like Mel McGuire had. Jesse and Richard cared for Caylee for those many months of her life. They knew that Casey was miserable at the Anthony home. He said that she hated her parents. This I believe to this day. I also believe she hated Caylee.

Kat

I'm listening.

Kat

Only one person has ever called me "IO"...(wink). I'm not sure I think she "hated" Caylee, but I think she might have felt "eclipsed" by her. How it grew to this point is beyond me though. Even after Caylee's death? Someone once told me that logic won't get me anywhere in this case.....

[nanieliz]

[Originally Posted by openminded
I don't know the answer to your question but it never seemed logical to me that there has been absolutely no contact between Cindy and Casey since Casey was re-arrested in October. I could never see Cindy letting it go that long.

Perhaps Jose has been passing notes back and forth as he supposedly did before Casey was released the first time on bond. ]

[they are all liars, so however you wish to accept the statement by Conway: they have been in contact with Casey thru Baez and Baden. its in his press release about the memorial. (I believe I posted the link earlier in the thread.)

fact or fiction.

IMO

best regards,
Pru ]

I might not have done this right but wantted to comment! I've been reading for over five years but finally joined one nite when I had to comment.lol I enjoy reading/learning here and agree with so many. Others I just skip on thu.
Isn't Jose breaking the bar rules by letting her past notes to her family this way. I've always thought he was doing this! Of course who's going to tell? Not the A's!

I'm not watching tomorrow because I do feel this is Cindys public platform to say what she wants.

I plan on giving a donation to TES in Caylee's memory. Tim really tried I believe but Cindy didn't want him to find Caylee.

Bless Caylee!

[Oregongal]

You know what speaking of this, I still will never ever understand why LE did not do a grid search. We all knew about "the zone" long long ago.
I am going to say around August, maybe sooner. We knew about this burial ground. We knew this was an old Party spot of Casey A's. And LE did not search it, or do a grid search 2 miles out from the home. Even though we all know that most bodies are found within two miles of the home. not 100s of miles away, not at the airport, not in the park, but in the backyard, or thereabouts. Places Familiar. Almost always.

It's going to haunt me for sure, because some of us actually talked about "the zone" we asked please look for her, and then Fay came.
Even though, that spot should have been scoured early on. Caylee should have been found. I truly espect the defense to use this against the state, the most in this case. They will use this as the ODDI defense. I think Casey A is going to walk.

Kat


IIRC Kat, LE were searching according to the cell pings. The pings out by the airport was an area she wouldn't have normally been in for any reason. By the time so much of that area had been searched and they went back to the 'close to home' area, it was under water and unable to be searched in a proper way.
Who knows what Casey was doing out there by the airport, but she was. Perhaps she was scoping out places to dump Caylee. That girl seems to have done alot of driving around for no reason and while doing so did alot of cell calling and texting. I just can't see her planning on throwing LE off by doing this, but, you never know. I found out my ex did alot of things that made no sense to me but, also had an underlying motive to throw me off of lots of things. Casey may not seem very smart, intelligence wise, but sometimes the socios have an inante smarts that works when they are being dishonest and coniving.
So I wouldn't put it past Casey to deliberating being out at the airport area making calls that could be traced to throw LE off the real location of Caylee. Remember all she said about the lost cell phone, the sim card switching, the wild goose chasing she took LE on. I know many think she's a young, stupido, but maybe she isn't as stupido as she would like us all to believe.

[bluwaters]

Yeah, Baez is one mess alright.
All these pressers, face time in front of cameras, spouting off nonsense, being educated by the judge, dubious connections, pulling the ethnic card, and on and on.
Meanwhile, the prosecution moves quietly forward with the case.
I just have to believe that the evidence we have seen is just the tip of the iceberg.
Tomorrow is my long work day of the week.
Fortunate for me as I won't be tempted to watch the show.
I do have the TES site up and will be sending TES a small memorial for Caylee in the AM.
All of my little 3 year old students will be getting extra hugs from me all day tomorrow.
Will check in here with you good folks later!

[Ionmhainn]

I'm not sure what to make of it. Many think it wasn't Casey at all, but Baez who wrote it.

Some have speculated Baez was trying to distance Casey from what could turn into a serious fiasco tomorrow.

Others wonder if this isn't the first step in a defense strategy that will throw another Anthony or 2 or 3 under the bus.

Still others wonder if it wasn't just Casey taking a swing at her mother on the eve of Cindy's big event.

It's impossible to say with any certainty, thanks to the posturing, spinning, manipulation and deceit that has been part and parcel of this nightmare from the beginning.


Thank for your reply. I did think the statement sounded "Casey-ish," but there might have been some input from JB. It didn't help her one bit, imo.

[Oregongal]

It's almost midnight in Orlando.

I'm wondering how George Anthony is feeling right now.







I do not know why I'm wondering that. I just am. :unsure:

SW, you are wondering because you care. I have been saying as many prayers for George as I have for Caylee.
I am praying that tomorrow will somehow help him. I do have a sick feeling tho in thinking this will be so awful for him.
I'm hoping he has been doing the out patient counseling and has been getting lots of support and preparation for tomorrow. Also hoping that his meds are working and he's somewhat stabalized with them that they will be working and helping him thru tomorrow.
It's 9:41pm here and a couple of hours ago I prayed that he would be getting a good night sleep to be able to face what is to come tomorrow.
Surely, tomorrow will be so very hard for him and I pray to God that he will be able to withstand it.
I also pray that this will truly help him (and Cindy) begin to finally be able to accept Caylee's death and move forward. Even if that moving forward means they may have to come to the acceptance that their only daughter did the unspeakable.

[Ionmhainn]

Signing off for tonight, hoping that the memorial proceeds without "incident." Hoping beyond hope that those who choose to attend will keep Caylee uppermost in their minds for this one day.
:rose:

[nc1948]

news, I respectfully must say this: it has no place in a eulogy, IMO. neither does the statement about 'other children'. its supposed to be about laying her to rest. it should not be a platform for thank you's....that should have come way back in January, publically. if they cared.

in fact Im confused about what her statement is supposed to be: a eulogy sent to the press....why? in case it wasnt covered?

secondly, stating its a time for FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO OPENLY EXPRESS AND SHARE THEIR LOVE FOR HER.....

they are unable to share IN PRIVATE?

yes. IMO because.....THEY NEED AN AUDIENCE. because.....

they dont have any friends (where were they).....

she is expecting 5000 of Caylee's closest friends to show up?

oh good grief.

Im kicking my soapbox away.....grrrr...its all so disgraceful, I think Ive beat the drum once too many :DIMO

best regards,
Pru

Can I please borrow it for just a moment. The first time i read Her statement about only the pure in heart made me leave the computer for a while. It made me sick. This is a woman that told us to get off our arsses and search, but never looked further than the pavers and play house in her own back yard. She talked about lack of sleep and weight loss but never asked the kidnappers to please return her grandaughter. She said we would vote her daughter Mother of the Year, but this was after her daughter had misplaced her grandaughter 31 days and she knew about the stealing from her own grandmother and Amy. She accused Tim of stealing a donation jar and this was while he was searching for her grandaughter at his own expense. She has tried to blame Jesse and Amy for Caylee disappearance since the Nanny story was not going to stick. She set up a web site asking for donations to be sent to the Hopespring address and sold t-shirts and arm bands immediately. She also asked for donations of water, snacks for searchers and also please send gift cards for Target and I forget other stores. As far as I can find out, none of the donations were given to any searchers.

Pure in Heart? Well i think that Cindy had better stay home.


Okay, sorry for rant. Pru-here is your soapbox back. Thanks for the loan.
I have dusted it off and it is ready for next time.

[Oregongal]

*respectfully snipped*

This line of thinking in missing person cases, must change. I dont know what will have to happen to make this change. But I feel it must change, if you are 2 or 60. It should not matter. If you are missing, and all of a sudden your clothes are all at home, and your belongings, and you are not in your bed at night? Then the grid search should begin. Not 5 months later, Not 2 months later, Not by small private organizations, but by the FBI and LE, because that is what we pay them to do PROTECT. Not turn their backs.

In this case, with all the info we had in this case, I couldnt scream loud enough for that grid search. And it just did not happen. It really bothered me. Terribly.

Kat

I agree Kat that missing persons...be it child or adult...cases need to somehow be revamped. Thinking of the so many other cases of missing out there.
But, with Caylee's case, we also must remember that Caylee was not reported missing for 31 days!!!
HUGE difference in the usual missing persons cases that are reported right away. HUGE
Whatever LE would have done if Caylee had immediatly been reported 'kidnapped' or missing difinantly would have been so different from the actions they took when Cindy made those 911 calls.
I feel that after they questioned Casey, after the wild goose chase she took them on, all the lies they caught her in, in their experience they knew from the beginning they were not looking for a missing baby, they would be looking for a body.
I think of lil Adji and how he was immediatley reported missing and how LE and that whole town and area was right on top of it. This is exactly what needs to be done with any missing person. Hopefully, every state, town, juristiction in our country will use Adji's case as an example and implement the actions taken into their own way of handling missing person cases.
Sometimes it takes the most horrible things to happen that causes big changes.
As far as Caylee tho, LE was at a distinct disadvantage.....31 days had already gone by before they even knew the name Caylee Marie.
For that I blame Casey and Casey alone.

[nc1948]

I'm wondering what the real purpose of Casey's statement was, and would appreciate any thoughts any of you might like to share. I was boiling mad after hearing it. Does she really believe that there was even the slightest chance of being able to visit a grave? Her last sentence in particular was so condescending. If she really wants to "help" her parents, a confession might be a good start.
imo

I think---Baez was all for this memorial thinking it would help garner sympathy for his client. He believed there would be lots of pictures of Caylee and Casey and lots of Casey is a victim info. He actually read the papers and maybe a couple of message boards and realized that people are not that gullible. Soooo- he has his client make a statement that she is against a public memorial. That way when the chit hits the fan tomorrow and this memorial is a disaster (I think it already is) he can say "well Casey did not want it. Cindy and George went ahead without her approval. She knew this was not a good idea, so see she is being victimized again" Just my take on this.

[Oregongal]

Thanks for your response, OG.

I tend to agree. Somehow, I feel tomorrow will be more difficult on George than any of the others.

Ah, well. My seat belt is buckled for what is sure to be a bumpy ride.

Good-night, everyone.

See you back here tomorrow. :seeya:

Good night SW, sleep well.
And do keep your seat belt buckled, I also think tomorrow will be a bumpy ride.

[taylor63]

Richard Grund's latest MySpace post, re tomorrow:
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=85212505&blogID=469739855

Tuesday, February 10, 2009


The Memorial - My Statement
Current mood: contemplative



I've been asked many times today if I or my family will be attending the "memorial" tomorrow at First Baptist Church of Orlando.

Recently it was reported on various news outlets that my name and my son Jesse's name appeared on the "not welcome" list. I reached out to have it confirmed and has been confirmed. So, I do not want to feed into the madness of this "event" by showing up and being led away by security and I do not want to allow anyone who might be behind this banishment to have any joy in that either. Because I cherish Caylee, her life and her memory, and always will, I have chosen to meet with friends at the site on Suburban Drive. This IS NOT, as has been reported, an alternate memorial. If others happen to show up we will remember Caylee together. If I can offer any comfort or prayerful guidance I will be glad to so.

I have always felt it was the family's right to have their funeral before anyone else did anything. To my dismay and surprise a Public Memorial is being staged before a private family funeral. In most high profile situations a private family funeral is given precedence and then the public is allowed their time to mourn. With the threat of protesters, the smothering blanket of security and the presence of certain fringe groups who claim to be Christians but act with hate and vile accusations against others staging a protest outside I fear that this will not be about Caylee at all but about an event about Caylee.

I must also state that I am dismayed by the decision of the leadership of the First Baptist Church of Orlando to host any event where the goal is to heal and restore a community but will also bar people from that community who want to attend under the threat of being removed by security. I cannot find a scriptural verification of such a stance. In fact, what I found was in the Parable of the Lost Sheep in Luke Chapter 15 where the Lord said He would risk leaving the 99 to find that 1 sheep that was lost. His heart has always been for that one person who needed Him. I wonder how He feels to know that someone who might need His comfort tomorrow is not welcome in a place where He is supposed to reside. Instead the area I found that seems to match the spirit of this rule is in John 18:14 where Caiaphas counseled that the needs of the many outweighed the needs of the one. If this memorial was truly about Caylee it would be built around Caylee and a child's love. For the love of Caylee all feuds, disagreements and hard feelings should have been set aside for her. Apparently that is not the case, and for that I sincerely disheartened.

The fact is, every day of our life is a memorial for Caylee. Not a day goes by that we don't cherish her memory and smile and have love for her fill our hearts. No one day or one event would ever be enough to cover that. We know that she is in Heaven and although some would like to make her into an angel and give her a job we prefer to follow scriptural teaching and not New Age teachings or paganistic influence and realize that she is safe in her Father's arms, running and playing and being a child. She doesn't need a job. He's got all that covered for her. If His eyes are on the sparrow I know He can manage watching over the little children too!

So, what ever you do tomorrow, make sure you do it for the right reasons. Do not be weighed down by such impossible requirements of having a pure heart and honorable intentions before you remember Caylee. The truth is our intentions are purely selfish because we miss her and if love is in our heart that should be good enough. A requirement of a pure heart and honorable intentions would mean that any sanctuary would be empty and the parking lots vacant. The Lord's heart is pure and His intentions for Caylee are more then honorable. His Grace is sufficient for all of us.

God bless you and thank you for letting me share this time with you.
Richard Grund





Thank you Richard for wise and loving words.
It is obvious who loved Caylee.



That church owes a big apology to the Grund family who loved that little girl dearly. This is a new all time low for Miss.Cindy. I would really like to say what I think about her right now and it's not pretty, but won't do it out of respect for Caylee because she was her grandmother.

[Oregongal]

OG that's great, just great. Yes maybe that was the truth behind the sim card nonsense and the cell phone. You know, no blackberry was ever found, but Lazzarro had one. On the affidavits, the downloads from his phone showed it was taken off a blackberry. That was the phone she "coveted". Her spartan nokia wouldnt hold a charge, it was "of no use to her" or however she put that. You may be right, to me she shows no sense of terror, no fear that she will ever get out. Just the opposite. Which makes me think, is she going to throw someone under the bus? I think she is. I also think, it will be her Mother.

When you have all of america, NG and HLN, CNN saying "oh this is the
GRANDMOTHER HERE. (she is a god you know) This is the GRAND MOTHER YOU ARE Talking about. As if, she is beyond reproach. Beyond prosecution, because she is a grand mother??

She is conniving and cunning to me. She is the root of this whole case.
Does She intimidate anyone? i'd have to say NO. Listen to her long enough and it's Lights out no one home, I'm here to detract deny and deflect as much as I can........Nurse of Decomp Mother of the Year.

But not enough money to do anything for Caylee, but provide her with
things. Material things.

There IS a lesson in all of this. You cannot buy love.
Kat
:rose:

Kat, I have no doubt that Casey will throw Cindy under the bus.
Their love/hate, competitive sick relationship has been showing for awhile now, with Casey's 'statement' today says she is pizzed beyond words with her mom now. This statement was nothing more than another stab at Cindy.
Casey shows no sense of terror or fear because she truly thinks she will walk. I suggest that JB has alot to do with this. I think he has not kept her completely informed about the reality of this case. I think these stupid motions he has continued to file, emergency or otherwise, are superfluous and his way of being able to tell 'his girl' he is doing sooo much to save her butt.
I truly think he is as much a manipulator as she is. I also think he's conivinced her that he can manage to make people believe that Cindy is the killer.
She's hopped on that bus and will be riding it until the pros is able to show at trial that Cindy is not the killer. There is absolutely no evidence, rumor or otherwise to indicate she is.
I have a very hard time believing that if she were she would have called 911. That would have been the last thing she would have done.
And all her words, her behaviors, her continuing to proclaim Casey's innocence, as deplorable as they have been, have certainly not said to me, I'm the guilty one and am trying to pin it on my daughter.
Casey is the evil one. Casey is the one who will most likely try and pin this on Cindy.
And with this said, I hardly think Casey would be sitting in jail, no matter how 'afraid' of her mother she is, to cover for Cindy. Or to cover for anyone else for that matter.
If, IF Cindy was the perp and Casey was covering for her, I hardly think that she and JB would be saying...wait, the real story will come out at trial. Wait? When Casey cries and says how she wants to go home. How her life was taken from her. Would she really continue to stay in jail and continue to wait for over a year for the real story to come out.
Give me a freaking break. Not this girl. No. She would have been screaming from the rooftops by now on how some one else....especially if it were Cindy, did this by now.
This little hussy would like nothing more to be out and free, living that 'good life' she imagined without Caylee. Partying and playing. There is no way she would not do everything possible, including telling on someone, to get out. Be it SOD or Duddette.
If Cindy is the one to become the one thrown under the bus, it will be a defense ploy to plant reasonable doubt. Period.

[norwood]

I read the board everyday and I see so many theories as to what happened during the big fight between Cindy A and Casey A. With the neighbors hearing it we have to believe that it did happen.

What if, during the fight, Caylee was killed. We have heard rumors, not proven, that Cindy had her hands around Casey's throat. If that kind of violent action was going on no telling what else happened. That poor tiny 2 year old could have easily gotten between the two women and ended up dead.

The grand cover up began from that point forward.

What I can't understand is Casey taking the fall for it.

Anyway, just a thought and I have had many over this case.

[Unperson1984]

I read the board everyday and I see so many theories as to what happened during the big fight between Cindy A and Casey A. With the neighbors hearing it we have to believe that it did happen.

What if, during the fight, Caylee was killed. We have heard rumors, not proven, that Cindy had her hands around Casey's throat. If that kind of violent action was going on no telling what else happened. That poor tiny 2 year old could have easily gotten between the two women and ended up dead.

The grand cover up began from that point forward.

What I can't understand is Casey taking the fall for it.

Anyway, just a thought and I have had many over this case.

It was pointed out yesterday that LE didn't ask the Anthonys any questions about a family fight. So we really have no proof there was a big fight that weekend since the neighbor who mentioned it wasn't too solid on his dates.

[happygert]

I feel really bad for the Grund family... I wonder how NG would defend the ACTIONS of cindy if she knew this little tid bit.. They were good enough to accept Caylee uncondtionaly even tho she wasn't Jesse's baby..To baby sit for her to love her to take care of her.. Jesse accepted Caylee as she was his own Daughter.. LOVED her more then her own mom and yes even more then the grandparents..cindy had no problem with the Grunds when they were watching Caylee.. So cindy didn't have to watch her...NOW THEY ARE BANNED from Caylee's memorial service.... IMO cindy cant get any lower...like mother like daughter...

P.S my worst enemy showed up at my sons funeral...She wasn't turned away...there was no scene ...

[Unperson1984]

I feel really bad for the Grund family... I wonder how NG would defend the ACTIONS of cindy if she knew this little tid bit.. They were good enough to accept Caylee uncondtionaly even tho she wasn't Jesse's baby..To baby sit for her to love her to take care of her.. Jesse accepted Caylee as she was his own Daughter.. LOVED her more then her own mom and yes even more then the grandparents..cindy had no problem with the Grunds when they were watching Caylee.. So cindy didn't have to watch her...NOW THEY ARE BANNED from Caylee's memorial service.... IMO cindy cant get any lower...like mother like daughter...

P.S my worst enemy showed up at my sons funeral...She wasn't turned away...there was no scene ...

I'm so sorry for the loss of your son.

[norwood]

It was pointed out yesterday that LE didn't ask the Anthonys any questions about a family fight. So we really have no proof there was a big fight that weekend since the neighbor who mentioned it wasn't too solid on his dates.

Okay. Like I said, I keep having different ideas of what really happened in this case.

The key, I think, will be if there are finger prints on the duct tape and the inside of the garbage bag. At least that will tell who put her in the bag and disposed of her.

[legalmania]

Hello Caylee well baby girl today you will see all the people who love and care about you, people you don't even know. They are coming from all over the country to say goodbye. You have a strong spirit Caylee and you still have work to do on Earth. The person who hurt you still owes you justice. We will be watching with you you'll never be alone again.

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[Oregongal]

Did you read Richard's prior post?
I snipped a few line

I know that there are many of you that are anxious for justice to be served and to have Caylee's life honored. But, I want to encourage you to let things work themselves out. When this all started I said that every hidden thing would be revealed and what was spoken in the darkness would be revealed in the light. And, because it was allowed the time to do so, we have seen that come true. I will also tell you that it's not over yet. There is more to be revealed and more junk to be expunged. Nothing will stay hidden and NO ONE will escape being exposed.

So, sit back and watch God be God. I promise you it will be well worth the wait.

Keep standing up for what is right, confronting what is wrong and believing in the Truth!



Richard Grund

Thank you for posting this koody, I had not seen it.
I so agree and have the same faith that RG seems to have.
Justice will come.
I love his last sentence...."Keep standing up for what is right, confronting what is wrong and believing in the Truth!"
The waiting is going to be the hard thing as we all wait for the trial.
Especially with all the everyday focus on every little bizarro thing that comes.
If nothing else comes from the memorial tomorrow, I pray that all of the coverage will ease and while we wait for the trial we'll be able to breathe deeply and have the patience needed during the wait time.
I would like nothing more right now for Cindy to not have anymore any opportunity to be in our faces anymore.
We've all been here for Caylee and Cindy has tainted it in so many ways.
Maybe, maybe tomorrow will be an end to her shenaigans and she will go on to concentrate on her grieving and taking care of her husband.
May they both begin to heal and begin to find a place within their hearts to let all the public/media things go. Find that place they need to be in order to grieve their loss of Caylee and face the truth of why they have lost her.
They have a long, hard road ahead of them, I would hope they would step back, keep to themselves and do what is emotionally necessary for them to face the trial, deal with fact that it is their daughter who is the charged with the murder of this precious grandbaby of theirs.
God help them.

[Unperson1984]

Okay. Like I said, I keep having different ideas of what really happened in this case.

The key, I think, will be if there are finger prints on the duct tape and the inside of the garbage bag. At least that will tell who put her in the bag and disposed of her.

Even without fingerprints, there's a strong case against Casey.

[taylor63]

I feel really bad for the Grund family... I wonder how NG would defend the ACTIONS of cindy if she knew this little tid bit.. They were good enough to accept Caylee uncondtionaly even tho she wasn't Jesse's baby..To baby sit for her to love her to take care of her.. Jesse accepted Caylee as she was his own Daughter.. LOVED her more then her own mom and yes even more then the grandparents..cindy had no problem with the Grunds when they were watching Caylee.. So cindy didn't have to watch her...NOW THEY ARE BANNED from Caylee's memorial service.... IMO cindy cant get any lower...like mother like daughter...

P.S my worst enemy showed up at my sons funeral...She wasn't turned away...there was no scene ...


Cindy said only the "pure in heart", were allowed to attend Caylee's memorial. So now I guess she feels she is in the position to play God, and judge other people's hearts. I am a Baptist and this makes me ashamed and very angry. I am seriously considering writing that church and emailing Mr.Grund's letter. There is no excuse for this. If anyone wants to write and complain, here is the email address to the church http://www.firstorlando.com

[Oregongal]

It was pointed out yesterday that LE didn't ask the Anthonys any questions about a family fight. So we really have no proof there was a big fight that weekend since the neighbor who mentioned it wasn't too solid on his dates.

No, we don't have any proof there was a big fight. But, I also remember that the Ant's met with LE several times and those meetings and what went on have not been released. They may not have been taped, they may have been and those tapes have been withheld.
The alleged fight and all that's been spoken about it had to have come from something more than the neighbor.
I think there is something more than just the neighbors account.
I could be from those meetings with LE, it could be that TonE told LE that Casey told him there had been a huge fight that day. I just think there really is more to it than the neighbors so/so account.

[happygert]

I'm so sorry for the loss of your son.

Thank You.. .

[legalmania]

Cindy said only the "pure in heart", were allowed to attend Caylee's memorial. So now I guess she feels she is in the position to play God, and judge other people's hearts. I am a Baptist and this makes me ashamed and very angry. I am seriously considering writing that church and emailing Mr.Grund's letter. There is no excuse for this. If anyone wants to write and complain, here is the email address to the church http://www.firstorlando.com

Why pick on the church this should be Caylees day. Since she will never have another birthday or Christmas or first day of school at least let her have this one day of peace.

[Oregongal]

I feel really bad for the Grund family... I wonder how NG would defend the ACTIONS of cindy if she knew this little tid bit.. They were good enough to accept Caylee uncondtionaly even tho she wasn't Jesse's baby..To baby sit for her to love her to take care of her.. Jesse accepted Caylee as she was his own Daughter.. LOVED her more then her own mom and yes even more then the grandparents..cindy had no problem with the Grunds when they were watching Caylee.. So cindy didn't have to watch her...NOW THEY ARE BANNED from Caylee's memorial service.... IMO cindy cant get any lower...like mother like daughter...

P.S my worst enemy showed up at my sons funeral...She wasn't turned away...there was no scene ...

I am so with you on every word happy.
And kudos and blessings to you for being a loving woman able to put aside any feelings you must have had for this enemy of yours.
The true mark of a woman who has her priorities straight.
:wub:

[Oregongal]

Hello Caylee well baby girl today you will see all the people who love and care about you, people you don't even know. They are coming from all over the country to say goodbye. You have a strong spirit Caylee and you still have work to do on Earth. The person who hurt you still owes you justice. We will be watching with you you'll never be alone again.

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Now playing: Eric Clapton - Tears in Heaven (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/eric_clapton/track/tears_in_heaven)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

Amen.
Thank you legal for this song.
Hand me a tissue please.

[legalmania]

Amen.
Thank you legal for this song.
Hand me a tissue please.

Here you go. Can you reach?

[Unperson1984]

No, we don't have any proof there was a big fight. But, I also remember that the Ant's met with LE several times and those meetings and what went on have not been released. They may not have been taped, they may have been and those tapes have been withheld.
The alleged fight and all that's been spoken about it had to have come from something more than the neighbor.
I think there is something more than just the neighbors account.
I could be from those meetings with LE, it could be that TonE told LE that Casey told him there had been a huge fight that day. I just think there really is more to it than the neighbors so/so account.

Most of the talk about a fight has been on boards like this one, not in any of the documents released.

I've wondered if the fight wasn't the weekend before, on the 9th. Casey got mad, took off with Caylee and came home for Father's Day. That would explain why they all placed the 9th as the day Casey and Caylee left.

[cuddlyrunner]

I'm off to school in a minute, not sure if I shall get home in time to watch the service online. I'll be thinking of Caylee as I do every day. I think Reverend Grund's words were lovely.

A few years ago we had the Soham murders, two little girls murdered by their school caretaker-someone they had gone to as a person they thought they could trust. For days we watched on tv as the search went on and then finally their little remains were found. Their funeral/memorial service was screened on tv and I remember crying throughout. What also stands out in my mind is the absolute dignity and grief of both sets of parents throughout it all and during the trial.

When a case captures so many hearts I think a public memorial service is good but i just don't get the idea of banning people who genuinely loved Caylee and were deeply involved in her early upbringing.

[happygert]

Cindy said only the "pure in heart", were allowed to attend Caylee's memorial. So now I guess she feels she is in the position to play God, and judge other people's hearts. I am a Baptist and this makes me ashamed and very angry. I am seriously considering writing that church and emailing Mr.Grund's letter. There is no excuse for this. If anyone wants to write and complain, here is the email address to the church http://www.firstorlando.com


ITA......Who is this minister anyway that he would allow this kind of behavior in his church...I have never heard of a Minster refusing someone entry to a Church.. I am afraid if I was a member of that Church he'd be losing a family in his parsonage...I would also urge others to seek another church who allows all in.. Or I'd urge them to Seek another Minister to take his place.

This should never have been allowed...
mo

[happygert]

I am so with you on every word happy.
And kudos and blessings to you for being a loving woman able to put aside any feelings you must have had for this enemy of yours.
The true mark of a woman who has her priorities straight.
:wub:

Thank you .. My son was more important to me then anything.. I figured if she felt the need to show her respect for him then I could greet her and treat her like anyone else that was there for him.. No way would I ever have someone escort her out...It wasn't about me and it wasn't about her..It was all about him..

[happygert]

Did you see the support the Grund's

Team Jesse Grund. He's not guilty!! We support you Jesse!
http://www.topix.net/forum/county/orange-fl/TH3MT60ASJLN39NVV
Hope it ok to post that here.

Thanks koody..

[Oregongal]

Cindy said only the "pure in heart", were allowed to attend Caylee's memorial. So now I guess she feels she is in the position to play God, and judge other people's hearts. I am a Baptist and this makes me ashamed and very angry. I am seriously considering writing that church and emailing Mr.Grund's letter. There is no excuse for this. If anyone wants to write and complain, here is the email address to the church http://www.firstorlando.com

taylor, as a Christian I am also offended my Cindy's remark. My first thought was, who is she to judge who is pure of heart?
The only one that can is God, and she is not God.
But, I also cannot find it in my heart to email the church that has so graciously offered itself up to host this memorial. I don't agree with how it's being handled, the turning away of certain people, the tight security, etc. But rather than complain, I will pray for them. I'm sure they have and will get many complaints, hopefully this will cause them to examine their doctrine and perhaps change what certainly doesn't seem right to me.
But, I also have to consider the source....Cindy is the one who said this, not the church.
I feel Cindy is the one who should be emailed, not the church.

[Oregongal]

Here you go. Can you reach?

Got it, thank you.

[happygert]

So sorry for the loss of your son.

Thank You..koody..

[Oregongal]

Most of the talk about a fight has been on boards like this one, not in any of the documents released.

I've wondered if the fight wasn't the weekend before, on the 9th. Casey got mad, took off with Caylee and came home for Father's Day. That would explain why they all placed the 9th as the day Casey and Caylee left.

Good point Unp. Would explain why all the Ant's, Casey included, made the statements about the last time they saw Caylee as being the 9th.
But, how does that explain George's statement about seeing Caylee and Casey on the 16th?
I've always thought they all said the 9th to keep LE from examining the real day, the 15th, as being the last time they saw Caylee alive.
Considering Cindy's pathological obsession of portraying the picture perfect family, I would think that a huge, perhaps violent fight took place on the 15th would be the last thing she wanted anyone to know about, especially LE. Unfortunantly for her, she or someone uploaded that Father's Day video of Caylee with her ggpa onto the computer.
Never thinking that it would be the one thing that would prove the 9th was not the last day they saw Caylee. Never thinking that that video would expose a lie.

[happygert]

nite`all sweet dreams........

[BobbisAngel]

If caylee was really cremated, why no mention of it earlier???
I just dont know what to belive anymore, and i cant keep holding my breath... my head is starting to hurt...


It doesn't really matter whether Caylee was cremated or buried in a coffin does it. George and Cindy are planning things the way they want them to be and doing what they feel comfortable with which is what all families do. I really don't care if we never find out which they did.

Casey's little blip...why bother if all she was going to do was whine about her parents not following her instructions. For once in their lives they are doing what they want and to heck with Casey. You know that has to be just burning Casey's rear. And to top it off they are having a big memorial for Caylee that will be all about Caylee instead of Casey. I'll bet that just grinds her jaws too. Caylee in the limelight!!! I highly doubt if Casey's blip is getting her much sympathy. Who cares :mad:

[BobbisAngel]

I share this as well StickyB. But Cindy has to be front and center stage of the circus. This woman has no sense of decency, but has a nose for MONEY not to mention she is still under some kind of illusion that she is perfect in all she does. This woman created the monster Casey.


If they didn't have a public memorial service people would talk about how selfish they were, etc, etc. There is no way that they can please everyone. I think it is really nice that they are having the memorial service and I don't believe for a second anything will be sold. These people are mourning the loss of Caylee and that is what they will be there for...to honor her life. They didn't have to share this with us but they are. I hope everyone that is talking such negative talk about the memorial is disappointed when it is a beautiful memorial service and all about Caylee.

[legalmania]

So sorry for the loss of your son.

koody I am also sorry for the loss of your son but your sons funeral was just that a funeral for your son. You were the mature and stronger one and gave your son the respect and dignity he deserved that day. I know he appreciates that. When you meet up again he will say thanks. For giving me the peace and respect on my last day 0n

[Oregongal]

nite`all sweet dreams........

Good night happy, sleep well.
Sweet dreams to you as well.
:wub:

[Oregongal]

It doesn't really matter whether Caylee was cremated or buried in a coffin does it. George and Cindy are planning things the way they want them to be and doing what they feel comfortable with which is what all families do. I really don't care if we never find out which they did.

Casey's little blip...why bother if all she was going to do was whine about her parents not following her instructions. For once in their lives they are doing what they want and to heck with Casey. You know that has to be just burning Casey's rear. And to top it off they are having a big memorial for Caylee that will be all about Caylee instead of Casey. I'll bet that just grinds her jaws too. Caylee in the limelight!!! I highly doubt if Casey's blip is getting her much sympathy. Who cares :mad:

:thumbsup: BobbiesAngel!!!
I just hope that it will be Caylee in the limelight.
As far as Casey's waa-waa statement, well I can't post what I really want to...I don't want to go to band camp. :wink:

[legalmania]

:thumbsup: BobbiesAngel!!!
I just hope that it will be Caylee in the limelight.
As far as Casey's waa-waa statement, well I can't post what I really want to...I don't want to go to band camp. :wink:

I'm sure Cindy and George want this to be about Caylee and only Caylee. I believe that is why they wanted Casey left out. I hope it's a beautiful service and the trouble makers don't ruin it for the people who are there for good intentions. Well good night everyone.:rose:

[Explorer]

That anthony familys combined hatefulness is what killed Caylee. They all played a part in her death. That poor little kid didnt stand a chance in that house. They all didnt deserve her. What a terrible shame:sad:

[sofiesmom]

Amen.
Thank you legal for this song.
Hand me a tissue please.I need a whole box.

[aubrey04]

BRAND NEW THREAD, FOLKS:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=348918