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della_17_99
02-08-2009, 08:56 AM
Good Morning gang. I've never started a thread here before!:wink:
txsage
02-08-2009, 09:04 AM
well, now you have, della!
Good job Della! :thumbsup:
eng_4_ever
02-08-2009, 09:16 AM
And a Great start it is .....except it is Feb........not Jan :loveeyes:
And a Great start it is .....except it is Feb........not Jan :loveeyes:
:lol: I missed it too! It can be corrected, no biggie. Wish it were January.
della_17_99
02-08-2009, 09:20 AM
:lol: I missed it too! It can be corrected, no biggie. Wish it were January.
Whoops!!! Sorry, gang. My bad, maybe Coldwater will fix it.:blush:
ellegna
02-08-2009, 09:20 AM
Candles for Caylee
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle
:rose::rose::rose:
Caylee's Guest Book
http://www.legacy.com/SPTimes/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=121581033
shadowdiana
02-08-2009, 09:25 AM
OK, to get things going...do you think you could be an impartial juror? Could you sit on the jury that tries Kasey Anthony?
For me...yes. I have followed the case (loosely) on the boards, but truely think I could listen with an open mind.
There is soooo much we have NOT heard...I would like to hear it...just to KNOW. Would give me a lot of resolution. And I think I would be able to judge impartially.
Discuss :smile:
ellegna
02-08-2009, 09:26 AM
Thank you ellegna!
You are most welcome.
msgatorslayer
02-08-2009, 09:30 AM
OK, to get things going...do you think you could be an impartial juror? Could you sit on the jury that tries Kasey Anthony?
For me...yes. I have followed the case (loosely) on the boards, but truely think I could listen with an open mind.
There is soooo much we have NOT heard...I would like to hear it...just to KNOW. Would give me a lot of resolution. And I think I would be able to judge impartially.
Discuss :smile:
If a minister can get on a DP jury, well, anything is possible.:wink:
I could not be on this jury cause I think she is guilty with a cap G.
Morning, everyone!!!
OK, to get things going...do you think you could be an impartial juror? Could you sit on the jury that tries Kasey Anthony?
For me...yes. I have followed the case (loosely) on the boards, but truely think I could listen with an open mind.
There is soooo much we have NOT heard...I would like to hear it...just to KNOW. Would give me a lot of resolution. And I think I would be able to judge impartially.
Discuss :smile:
I think I could. There is no telling what we have not heard. Could be a major twist that could place blame elsewhere with an accomplice or Caylee being murdered by someone else to get back at Casey for a bad deal. (But I doubt it.)
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 09:35 AM
OK, to get things going...do you think you could be an impartial juror? Could you sit on the jury that tries Kasey Anthony?
For me...yes. I have followed the case (loosely) on the boards, but truely think I could listen with an open mind.
There is soooo much we have NOT heard...I would like to hear it...just to KNOW. Would give me a lot of resolution. And I think I would be able to judge impartially.
Discuss :smile:
At this point I couldn't. I think we have heard a lot, certainly not all of it, but enough that I would say guilty. And I know thats probably not fair, but I also don't think it's fair that Baez and his smirky group get on national TV and throw out all these bogus stories. The Fugitive :laugh::laugh:
At this point I couldn't. I think we have heard a lot, certainly not all of it, but enough that I would say guilty. And I know thats probably not fair, but I also don't think it's fair that Baez and his smirky group get on national TV and through out all these bogus stories. The Fugitive :laugh::laugh:
:thumbsup: It's fair!
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 09:36 AM
I think I could. There is no telling what we have not heard. Could be a major twist that could place blame elsewhere with an accomplice or Caylee being murdered by someone else to get back at Casey for a bad deal. (But I doubt it.)
Hey there could be a "Nanny":w00t:
If a minister can get on a DP jury, well, anything is possible.:wink:
I could not be on this jury cause I think she is guilty with a cap G.
Morning, everyone!!!
Same here. No way I could be on this jury. Like most here, I've been following this case everyday....I wouldn't say 24/7 but close. If I didn't have to work, I probably would be. LOL I'll miss the memorial though. *sigh*
Good Morning!
Hey there could be a "Nanny":w00t:
:lol: I'm wondering if they will seriously walk in the courtroom with this "Nanny" excuse or do they have something else up their sleeve. *refraining from cracking a joke here*
PuffDragon
02-08-2009, 09:42 AM
If a minister can get on a DP jury, well, anything is possible.:wink:
I could not be on this jury cause I think she is guilty with a cap G.
Morning, everyone!!!
I could be on the jury. I do believe Casey is guilty (does anyone not?) but I could make a decision based on the evidence presented. I firmly believed Robert Blake was guilty too but in the end, much as it would have pained me, i would have had to vote NG because I didn't believe the state proved its case. I could render a verdict based on the evidence, I'm sure I could.
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 09:42 AM
:lol: I'm wondering if they will seriously walk in the courtroom with this "Nanny" excuse or do they have something else up their sleeve. *refraining from cracking a joke here*
I just don't see how they can even mention it. I think the are going to let the state run with what they have and then just try and poke holes in it, what else can they do. "Baez can you please explain to the jury, why your client never called and reported her daughter missing"? "Ummm she was afraid".......... "Afraid of what"?
:lol: I'm wondering if they will seriously walk in the courtroom with this "Nanny" excuse or do they have something else up their sleeve. *refraining from cracking a joke here*
I don't see how they can't. They'll have to. Their client claimed the nanny had Caylee. They won't say it was Zenaida Gonzales (the one in the civil suit) but they'll point the finger at a nanny with a stolen identity with the name Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales or however you spell it.
Remember it only takes one juror to believe the bogus story.
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 09:44 AM
I could be on the jury. I do believe Casey is guilty (does anyone not?) but I could make a decision based on the evidence presented. I firmly believed Robert Blake was guilty too but in the end, much as it would have pained me, i would have had to vote NG because I didn't believe the state proved its case. I could render a verdict based on the evidence, I'm sure I could.
You're a better person than I am, I'm a gut person. No wonder I have never been called for jury duty. :sneaky:
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 09:45 AM
I don't see how they can't. They'll have to. Their client claimed the nanny had Caylee. They won't say it was Zenaida Gonzales (the one in the civil suit) but they'll point the finger at a nanny with a stolen identity with the name Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales or however you spell it.
Remember it only takes one juror to believe the bogus story.
IMO it will never go that way
*MoonRider*
02-08-2009, 09:46 AM
In her own words: Cindy Anthony says Caylee 'will be watching over so many other children'
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,7648048.story
"The family is requesting, in lieu of flowers, that donations be made to Eastside Baptist Church, 1900 Conway Gardens Road in Orlando; Orlando Rescue Mission; or Kid Finders Network."
And I am one of them!
Did Caylee die after a heroic battle with leukemia? No. Was she kidnapped by a stranger and held for ransom? No. Was she hit by a hit and run driver? No. Was she ever really missing? No. Her mother knew were she was the whole time. Was Caylee murdered by a stranger? No. Caylee was cruelly murdered by her mother and her body was stuffed in a sack and thrown in the woods to be eaten by insects and animals.
Caylee was killed by Cindy's daughter. The very same Cindy who, having been handed a lemon is going to make lemonade by trying to give meaning to Caylee's senseless death while loving, supporting and protecting the very person that caused her death.
How brazen can Cindy get? How shameless? How cynical? How deceptive? But wait. Thanks to Casey, Caylee is famous and now so are George and Cindy. And they intend to stay that way if they can. Words cannot express how repulsive this scheme is. Your daugher kills your grand daughter......and there are.... well......certain advantages to it. Speaking tours, interviews, travel, shaking hands and getting sympathy and admiration. Charity work is oh so fulfilling.
And stupid people will lap it up.
This is a bad way for me to start my day but what did I really expect? Every time I try to garner a bit of sympathy for Cindy, she does it again. God Bless Caylee.
I just don't see how they can even mention it. I think the are going to let the state run with what they have and then just try and poke holes in it, what else can they do. "Baez can you please explain to the jury, why your client never called and reported her daughter missing"? "Ummm she was afraid".......... "Afraid of what"?
If they even peeked at this board just one time, they would realize how that will not fly. (The Nanny bit)
I hope and pray that is exactly what they do. I don't see any plausible defense here unless it is so far under wraps that even Baez hasn't seen it yet.
I could be on the jury. I do believe Casey is guilty (does anyone not?) but I could make a decision based on the evidence presented. I firmly believed Robert Blake was guilty too but in the end, much as it would have pained me, i would have had to vote NG because I didn't believe the state proved its case. I could render a verdict based on the evidence, I'm sure I could.
I think it would kill me if I knew in my heart that the accused was guilty but the state hadn't proven its case and that I would be letting a murderer free. Do some jurors go with gut feeling even if the case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt?
PuffDragon
02-08-2009, 09:49 AM
You're a better person than I am, I'm a gut person. No wonder I have never been called for jury duty. :sneaky:
I would love to serve. I get called every three years as regularly as clockwork. I've been close a lot of times, been part of the first pull, but too far behind in the group, they always finished seating before they got to me. I missed it by one once though.....
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 09:50 AM
OK, to get things going...do you think you could be an impartial juror? Could you sit on the jury that tries Kasey Anthony?
For me...yes. I have followed the case (loosely) on the boards, but truely think I could listen with an open mind.
There is soooo much we have NOT heard...I would like to hear it...just to KNOW. Would give me a lot of resolution. And I think I would be able to judge impartially.
Discuss :smile:
No, I could not be impartial. I have formed an opinion already as to Casey's guilt. I've read all the doc drops, which I believe contain some information which will not be admissable at trial. I think that's important to note. I cannot put aside what I've read and ONLY listen to evidence at trial. I'm honest.
I think it would kill me if I knew in my heart that the accused was guilty but the state hadn't proven its case and that I would be letting a murderer free. Do some jurors go with gut feeling even if the case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt?
I would guess it has happened. Sometimes for the good and sometimes not.
msgatorslayer
02-08-2009, 09:51 AM
In her own words: Cindy Anthony says Caylee 'will be watching over so many other children'
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,7648048.story
"The family is requesting, in lieu of flowers, that donations be made to Eastside Baptist Church, 1900 Conway Gardens Road in Orlando; Orlando Rescue Mission; or Kid Finders Network."
This is a bad way for me to start my day but what did I really expect? Every time I try to garner a bit of sympathy for Cindy, she does it again. God Bless Caylee.
:thumbdown: Kid Finders, UGH!!
IMO it will never go that way
You may be right Willow. I just don't see how they can ignore it. Casey told her friends that Caylee was with the nanny....at the beach, disney, etc. They have to find a nanny to pin this on!!!
Will the defense come right out and say in their opening statement that their client is a LIAR? Can that be a strategy?
PuffDragon
02-08-2009, 09:53 AM
In her own words: Cindy Anthony says Caylee 'will be watching over so many other children'
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,7648048.story
"The family is requesting, in lieu of flowers, that donations be made to Eastside Baptist Church, 1900 Conway Gardens Road in Orlando; Orlando Rescue Mission; or Kid Finders Network."
This is a bad way for me to start my day but what did I really expect? Every time I try to garner a bit of sympathy for Cindy, she does it again. God Bless Caylee.
I don't really believe she wrote that herself. I'm willing to bet the phrasing was all suggested by counsel. I'm sure it reflects her wishes though. Probably her first draft would have had us over the moon and somebody had to clean it up for her. It really does sound more like an obit than a .... a...... whatever it was. Press release, I guess.
*MoonRider*
02-08-2009, 09:53 AM
:thumbdown: Kid Finders, UGH!!
I guess not finding children will be Cindy's new line of work. I feel sick. jmo
marshmallow
02-08-2009, 09:54 AM
OK, to get things going...do you think you could be an impartial juror? Could you sit on the jury that tries Kasey Anthony?
For me...yes. I have followed the case (loosely) on the boards, but truely think I could listen with an open mind.
There is soooo much we have NOT heard...I would like to hear it...just to KNOW. Would give me a lot of resolution. And I think I would be able to judge impartially.
Discuss :smile:
yup. I know I could. Discussing it here is one thing but following jury rules is another and I know I can follow rules to a T.
PuffDragon
02-08-2009, 09:56 AM
I think it would kill me if I knew in my heart that the accused was guilty but the state hadn't proven its case and that I would be letting a murderer free. Do some jurors go with gut feeling even if the case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt?
I don't know, never having made it to that point. I would have to rationalize that it wasn't my fault if it prosecution didn't get it's case proven, but I know I couldn't vote G if all I had to go on was my gut feeling and the prosecution had left too many questions unanswered.
msgatorslayer
02-08-2009, 09:56 AM
You may be right Willow. I just don't see how they can ignore it. Casey told her friends that Caylee was with the nanny....at the beach, disney, etc. They have to find a nanny to pin this on!!!
Just say they try to blame it on someone besides the nanny. They still need to explain why Casey wasted precious time once her Mom called LE by taking LE to Universal where she did not work.
It's a big chain reaction that will spiral into the abyss.
She told people of her 'job'. She told people about the 'nanny'.
Her words will come back to haunt her. Every lying one of them, IMO.
Just say they try to blame it on someone besides the nanny. They still need to explain why Casey wasted precious time once her Mom called LE by taking LE to Universal where she did not work.
It's a big chain reaction that will spiral into the abyss.
She told people of her 'job'. She told people about the 'nanny'.
Her words will come back to haunt her. Every lying one of them, IMO.
I agree but unless they say their client is a pathological liar right from the start, I don't see how they can get around the nanny. That's what started the search for "missing" Caylee. The nanny took her.
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 10:00 AM
You may be right Willow. I just don't see how they can ignore it. Casey told her friends that Caylee was with the nanny....at the beach, disney, etc. They have to find a nanny to pin this on!!!
But they can't find one person to prove the nanny existed. I want to know what would cause a somewhat normal woman to kill her child. And all I see is SPITE. I see Casey as nothing more than a spoiled little lying brat.
msgatorslayer
02-08-2009, 10:04 AM
I agree but unless they say their client is a pathological liar right from the start, I don't see how they can get around the nanny. That's what started the search for "missing" Caylee. The nanny took her.
Definately. They may as well get it out in the open and on the record that Casey Anthony is a liar.
Then the fun begins. Explaining all the lies. And hoping that one juror eats it up.
msgatorslayer
02-08-2009, 10:05 AM
I guess not finding children will be Cindy's new line of work. I feel sick. jmo
Or a totally new community service.
Harboring and protecting children who kill your Grandchildren.
Resources, attorneys, and media mouthpieces, included.
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 10:05 AM
Definately. They may as well get it out in the open and on the record that Casey Anthony is a liar.
Then the fun begins. Explaining all the lies. And hoping that one juror eats it up.
Specially if his judge stays, didn't he say "Miss Anthony and the truth are strangers"? which I thought was so unethical of him to say, but I loved it anyways. :tonguewag:
Mike Galanos has a defense attorney guest on his show regularly...his name is MARK (I don't know his last name). I hope someone else knows who I'm talking about and tell me what his last name is. He's fabulous, imo.
On one of the shows, he said the defense should come right out and say that they know their client is hated and that she is a liar but she did not commit this crime. I believe that will be a very effective strategy. Let the jury know Casey Anthony is a liar right from the start.
Regina.Lampert
02-08-2009, 10:06 AM
I think it would kill me if I knew in my heart that the accused was guilty but the state hadn't proven its case and that I would be letting a murderer free. Do some jurors go with gut feeling even if the case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt?
Good morning n/t and everyone. Look for one of the best juror consultants to be hired by the defense. Either Jo-Ellan Dimitrios or Howard Varinsky. Both have been known to work for the prosecution also.
Linda Baden will be looking for another wingnut, like Juror #10 in the spector trial. Who, because his grandmother would go to a stranger's home and snoop thru drawers, assumed that Lana Clarkson did the same in spector's home, and upon discovering a gun decided to then commit suicide by shooting herself in the mouth. Despite all the evidence provided by five women that he drew guns on them and threatened to shoot them.
Yep, I think they will be looking for the same type of juror here, in this case.
marshmallow
02-08-2009, 10:09 AM
:thumbdown: Kid Finders, UGH!!
other than the Kid Finder's mention, I thought it was a beautifully written statement and must've been heartbreaking to write.
Specially if his judge stays, didn't he say "Miss Anthony and the truth are strangers"? which I thought was so unethical of him to say, but I loved it anyways. :tonguewag:
There you go...it's on record. She's a liar. Is she a murderer? The jury has to decide.
Oh god...I'm defending Casey. Maybe I should join the dream team. :lol:
Good morning n/t and everyone. Look for one of the best juror consultants to be hired by the defense. Either Jo-Ellan Dimitrios or Howard Varinsky. Both have been known to work for the prosecution also.
Linda Baden will be looking for another wingnut, like Juror #10 in the spector trial. Who, because his grandmother would go to a stranger's home and snoop thru drawers, assumed that Lana Clarkson did the same in spector's home, and upon discovering a gun decided to then commit suicide by shooting herself in the mouth. Despite all the evidence provided by five women that he drew guns on them and threatened to shoot them.
Yep, I think they will be looking for the same type of juror here, in this case.
Most definitely, scampi. Good Morning! :smile:
msgatorslayer
02-08-2009, 10:11 AM
There you go...it's on record. She's a liar. Is she a murderer? The jury has to decide.
Oh god...I'm defending Casey. Maybe I should join the dream team. :lol:
Or Cindy's right hand woman, lmao. :lol:
Or Cindy's right hand woman, lmao. :lol:
:scared:...
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 10:12 AM
There you go...it's on record. She's a liar. Is she a murderer? The jury has to decide.
Oh god...I'm defending Casey. Maybe I should join the dream team. :lol:
LOL,I'm out. I just threw my skates in the car, going rollerblading for awhile, though don't think I won't be thinking about this. LOL
I want the jury to see the script, and the baby daddy's obit.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 10:14 AM
other than the Kid Finder's mention, I thought it was a beautifully written statement and must've been heartbreaking to write.
I think so.
nc1948
02-08-2009, 10:14 AM
I don't really believe she wrote that herself. I'm willing to bet the phrasing was all suggested by counsel. I'm sure it reflects her wishes though. Probably her first draft would have had us over the moon and somebody had to clean it up for her. It really does sound more like an obit than a .... a...... whatever it was. Press release, I guess.
The family is requesting that those with only the purest of hearts and truly honorable intentions attend the service for their beloved child
This is the part of the statement that made my hair stand on end. Cindy, dear Cindy, are you going to be the one at the door deciding who is pure of heart and truly honorable. How will you recognize it. I think both of those are foreign concepts to you.
LOL,I'm out. I just threw my skates in the car, going rollerblading for awhile, though don't think I won't be thinking about this. LOL
I want the jury to see the script, and the baby daddy's obit.
Have fun! I have to hit the shower and do much needed housework. Blech!
Don't think baby's daddy obit will be presented....it has no relevance to the case, imo. Unless there is something we don't know yet about the baby's daddy.
The family is requesting that those with only the purest of hearts and truly honorable intentions attend the service for their beloved child
This is the part of the statement that made my hair stand on end. Cindy, dear Cindy, are you going to be the one at the door deciding who is pure of heart and truly honorable. How will you recognize it. I think both of those are foreign concepts to you.
Under these rules, I'm not sure Cindy will be allowed in. :wink:
IMO
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 10:18 AM
I think so.
Savannah couldn't leave without saying "good morning"
ITA this part got me:
"For those who fell in love with Caylee Marie on national TV, their grief is only temporary, their hearts will soon mend, and their memory of her may eventually fade. But for those who actually had the honor to meet Caylee Marie, it will be much more difficult for them to say goodbye, and their hearts may never heal".
*MoonRider*
02-08-2009, 10:18 AM
The family is requesting that those with only the purest of hearts and truly honorable intentions attend the service for their beloved child
This is the part of the statement that made my hair stand on end. Cindy, dear Cindy, are you going to be the one at the door deciding who is pure of heart and truly honorable. How will you recognize it. I think both of those are foreign concepts to you.
The Milstead's most definitely resemble that remark. :sad:
msgatorslayer
02-08-2009, 10:19 AM
The family is requesting that those with only the purest of hearts and truly honorable intentions attend the service for their beloved child
This is the part of the statement that made my hair stand on end. Cindy, dear Cindy, are you going to be the one at the door deciding who is pure of heart and truly honorable. How will you recognize it. I think both of those are foreign concepts to you.
I hope, for Caylee's sake and memory, that protesters stay out of this.
There should be no confrontations, including ones started by Cindy.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 10:23 AM
Savannah couldn't leave without saying "good morning"
ITA this part got me:
"For those who fell in love with Caylee Marie on national TV, their grief is only temporary, their hearts will soon mend, and their memory of her may eventually fade. But for those who actually had the honor to meet Caylee Marie, it will be much more difficult for them to say goodbye, and their hearts may never heal".
Hey! Good morning and have a great day, Willow.....hope you're back later!
Regina.Lampert
02-08-2009, 10:23 AM
The family is requesting that those with only the purest of hearts and truly honorable intentions attend the service for their beloved child
This is the part of the statement that made my hair stand on end. Cindy, dear Cindy, are you going to be the one at the door deciding who is pure of heart and truly honorable. How will you recognize it. I think both of those are foreign concepts to you.
Those words may come back to bite her, if she uses this memorial to attempt to sway public sentiment by trying to prove casey anthony's innocence for the murder of Caylee Anthony.
I doubt very much if any of the attendees have the stomach to watch photos and/or videos of casey anthony with Caylee Anthony or listen to glowing reports of what a loving mother she was to Caylee. If they go down that road, there is going to be a backlash. imo.
marshmallow
02-08-2009, 10:25 AM
Those words may come back to bite her, if she uses this memorial to attempt to sway public sentiment by trying to prove casey anthony's innocence for the murder of Caylee Anthony.
I doubt very much if any of the attendees have the stomach to watch photos and/or videos of casey anthony with Caylee Anthony or listen to glowing reports of what a loving mother she was to Caylee. If they go down that road, there is going to be a backlash. imo.
I agree but I would hope any backlash would come after the service is over with and people have left. The service itself should just be for Caylee and while I doubt it will be, I can hope it will be.
*MoonRider*
02-08-2009, 10:29 AM
I agree but I would hope any backlash would come after the service is over with and people have left. The service itself should just be for Caylee and while I doubt it will be, I can hope it will be.
If past behavior is an indication of future behavior, I suspect the only disruptions at the service will come from Cindy. jmo
msgatorslayer
02-08-2009, 10:31 AM
Those words may come back to bite her, if she uses this memorial to attempt to sway public sentiment by trying to prove casey anthony's innocence for the murder of Caylee Anthony.
I doubt very much if any of the attendees have the stomach to watch photos and/or videos of casey anthony with Caylee Anthony or listen to glowing reports of what a loving mother she was to Caylee. If they go down that road, there is going to be a backlash. imo.
ITA - And we know Cindy. She's kept quiet since Caylee's remains were found. This will be her community platform. What will she do with it? :blink:
PuffDragon
02-08-2009, 10:36 AM
The family is requesting that those with only the purest of hearts and truly honorable intentions attend the service for their beloved child
This is the part of the statement that made my hair stand on end. Cindy, dear Cindy, are you going to be the one at the door deciding who is pure of heart and truly honorable. How will you recognize it. I think both of those are foreign concepts to you.
It is pretty offputting, isn't it? Do people only get in with a pastor's verification or something? How does one determine pureness of heart and honorable intentions? If someone shows up and they don't like the way he looks, can they just refuse him entrance on those grounds? Ugh. Really, if it's like that they should be calling it a private service by invitation only.
PuffDragon
02-08-2009, 10:37 AM
Under these rules, I'm not sure Cindy will be allowed in. :wink:
IMO
Very good point!
nc1948
02-08-2009, 10:38 AM
I agree but I would hope any backlash would come after the service is over with and people have left. The service itself should just be for Caylee and while I doubt it will be, I can hope it will be.
I would not attend if I lived next door to the church. I believe funerals and memorials should be attended by people that knew the deceased in life. BUT if for some reason I was there , the first mention of Casey, the first picture of Casey or reading a letter from Casey about her love for Caylee and I would quietly and respectfully get up and slip out.
PuffDragon
02-08-2009, 10:40 AM
Savannah couldn't leave without saying "good morning"
ITA this part got me:
"For those who fell in love with Caylee Marie on national TV, their grief is only temporary, their hearts will soon mend, and their memory of her may eventually fade. But for those who actually had the honor to meet Caylee Marie, it will be much more difficult for them to say goodbye, and their hearts may never heal".
How did it get to you Willow? You are a softy, is what you are (and that's not bad, I wish I were more like you). I thought it was horribly manipulative and something about it made me cringe. I haven't wanted to try to figure out why it bothers me so much, but it just makes me grind my teeth.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 10:41 AM
How did it get to you Willow? You are a softy, is what you are (and that's not bad, I wish I were more like you). I thought it was horribly manipulative and something about it made me cringe. I haven't wanted to try to figure out why it bothers me so much, but it just makes me grind my teeth.
I thought it was lovely. And true.
sofiesmom
02-08-2009, 10:43 AM
OK, to get things going...do you think you could be an impartial juror? Could you sit on the jury that tries Kasey Anthony?
For me...yes. I have followed the case (loosely) on the boards, but truely think I could listen with an open mind.
There is soooo much we have NOT heard...I would like to hear it...just to KNOW. Would give me a lot of resolution. And I think I would be able to judge impartially.
Discuss :smile:Yes, I could be an impartial juror. At this point, I think she's guilty. Actually I think I KNOW she's guilty, but were I on the jury, I'd start over from there...clean slate.
Daffy88
02-08-2009, 10:46 AM
Was wondering if anyone knows when she will go to trial for the check charges?
PuffDragon
02-08-2009, 10:47 AM
I thought it was lovely. And true.
Okay SS, I'll put you in the softy column.
I guess part of why it bothers me so much is, I know that if I were trying to write something that would get people feeling the way you and Willow feel after reading it, that's exactly what I would have written. It feels very planned and calculated to grab your heart. I doesn't make me feel the way I would be writing it to make others feel, is what I'm trying to say. I'm not sure I know what I'm trying to say..............
CelticDawn
02-08-2009, 10:53 AM
In her own words: Cindy Anthony says Caylee 'will be watching over so many other children'
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,7648048.story
"The family is requesting, in lieu of flowers, that donations be made to Eastside Baptist Church, 1900 Conway Gardens Road in Orlando; Orlando Rescue Mission; or Kid Finders Network."
This is a bad way for me to start my day but what did I really expect? Every time I try to garner a bit of sympathy for Cindy, she does it again. God Bless Caylee.
say WHAT...???
Must have been a real tear jerker to even write....certainly is to read.....but KIDFINDERS...???
why havent they been shut down...???!!! They oughta lock half of them up...!!!
CelticDawn
02-08-2009, 10:57 AM
She didn't say TES EITHER..!! You know....those guys were doing that oput of the goodness of their hearts...!!!.....That part makes me really mad..!!
I would donate to all of them except that Kidfinders Scamshop.;
Lilly12
02-08-2009, 11:00 AM
OK, to get things going...do you think you could be an impartial juror? Could you sit on the jury that tries Kasey Anthony?
For me...yes. I have followed the case (loosely) on the boards, but truely think I could listen with an open mind.
There is soooo much we have NOT heard...I would like to hear it...just to KNOW. Would give me a lot of resolution. And I think I would be able to judge impartially.
Discuss :smile:
Definitely NOT. I would not buy into all the mumble jumble the defense will spew.
msgatorslayer
02-08-2009, 11:01 AM
She didn't say TES EITHER..!! You know....those guys were doing that oput of the goodness of their hearts...!!!.....That part makes me really mad..!!
I would donate to all of them except that Kidfinders Scamshop.;
Yeah, NS. TES spend an enormous amount of resources and time looking for Caylee.
But they, like Lenny, and us maggots, are the enemy.
Kidfinders is GREAT! They gave George his Caylee mobile to ride around in and were looking for a live Caylee, somewhere.:blink:
Barbara fl.
02-08-2009, 11:03 AM
Good morning n/t and everyone. Look for one of the best juror consultants to be hired by the defense. Either Jo-Ellan Dimitrios or Howard Varinsky. Both have been known to work for the prosecution also.
Linda Baden will be looking for another wingnut, like Juror #10 in the spector trial. Who, because his grandmother would go to a stranger's home and snoop thru drawers, assumed that Lana Clarkson did the same in spector's home, and upon discovering a gun decided to then commit suicide by shooting herself in the mouth. Despite all the evidence provided by five women that he drew guns on them and threatened to shoot them.
Yep, I think they will be looking for the same type of juror here, in this case.
Good morning all,
Yes, Regina.....that is exactly what LKB is going to be looking for....I hope the prosecutors are hip to her tacticts....
Regina.Lampert
02-08-2009, 11:04 AM
How did it get to you Willow? You are a softy, is what you are (and that's not bad, I wish I were more like you). I thought it was horribly manipulative and something about it made me cringe. I haven't wanted to try to figure out why it bothers me so much, but it just makes me grind my teeth.
I resented it because she attempts to diminish the feelings and/or memories people may have of Caylee. In other words, because she and her bunch "knew" Caylee their feelings are more important and will last longer. That may or may not be true, but did not need to be mentioned in regards to what others may be feeling. imo.
Regina.Lampert
02-08-2009, 11:06 AM
It almost seems as if Cindy is inviting trouble with the the way she is marketing this event with who's NOT invited and who has a pure heart according to Cindy. I wish they would have just had a dignified private service for Caylee. moo
It's ludicrous, imo. Going by that standard the first person to be denied and barred from anything to do with this memorial should be the odious creature who murdered Caylee Anthony, her mother casey anthony, imo.
Barbara fl.
02-08-2009, 11:07 AM
Mike Galanos has a defense attorney guest on his show regularly...his name is MARK (I don't know his last name). I hope someone else knows who I'm talking about and tell me what his last name is. He's fabulous, imo.
On one of the shows, he said the defense should come right out and say that they know their client is hated and that she is a liar but she did not commit this crime. I believe that will be a very effective strategy. Let the jury know Casey Anthony is a liar right from the start.
Mark Geragos tried that stratedgy and look where it got SP......trust me, no one is going to buy that.....JMO
Neffy
02-08-2009, 11:07 AM
Looks the the majority was right. This is a platform to reinforce Caylee as a missing child. The inference is there before any jumps on the "I didn't read that bandwagon".
Only the purest of hearts need attend aka will be plenty about Casey.
Caylee is above and more important then any and all other missing/murdered children. The Anthony's have NOMINATED her to do so.
Caylee was a murdered child and the person suspected of this murder sits in a cell across the street. If she were presumed innocent she would NOT be sitting in that cell period.
This is one of those symantics such as found not guilty. Not guilty doesn't say a person is innocent of the crime either. It means there was not enough evidence to convict.
Vindication of a crime occurs only when evidence is found to convict another of a crime.
TES was completely snubbed and were the people honestly trying to bring closure and sided with police evidence. Kidfinders kept the myth going perpetuating the false leads.
I can't believe the donations given to this family in particular the Church of Orlando to allow them to take it to this level when the Anthonys have an agenda to fulfill instead of it actually being a memorial.
PuffDragon
02-08-2009, 11:09 AM
I resented it because she attempts to diminish the feelings and/or memories people may have of Caylee. In other words, because she and her bunch "knew" Caylee their feelings are more important and will last longer. That may or may not be true, but did not need to be mentioned in regards to what others may be feeling. imo.
Okay, that sounds valid. I tried it on and it didn't fit me but I can see why that would bother some.
*MoonRider*
02-08-2009, 11:10 AM
She didn't say TES EITHER..!! You know....those guys were doing that oput of the goodness of their hearts...!!!.....That part makes me really mad..!!
I would donate to all of them except that Kidfinders Scamshop.;
I guess those that were not looking for an alive Caylee do not have a pure heart. I love the LE interview where Cindy asks are you looking for an alive Caylee and Yuri said "we're looking for Caylee."
gaelicpeas
02-08-2009, 11:11 AM
I resented it because she attempts to diminish the feelings and/or memories people may have of Caylee. In other words, because she and her bunch "knew" Caylee their feelings are more important and will last longer. That may or may not be true, but did not need to be mentioned in regards to what others may be feeling. imo.I agree completely, Regina. Cindy just has to get her digs in.....
Barbara fl.
02-08-2009, 11:12 AM
The family is requesting that those with only the purest of hearts and truly honorable intentions attend the service for their beloved child
This is the part of the statement that made my hair stand on end. Cindy, dear Cindy, are you going to be the one at the door deciding who is pure of heart and truly honorable. How will you recognize it. I think both of those are foreign concepts to you.
Well that leaves Casey out.....she shouldn't be watching from her cell....
Regina.Lampert
02-08-2009, 11:14 AM
I agree completely, Regina. Cindy just has to get her digs in.....
Some of the people who spring to mind, who will NEVER forget Caylee are the Detectives who so diligently tried to find her, only to wind up in those woods, staring down into a garbage bag and seeing a tiny skull and bones.
Sheriff Beary, Detectives Melich and Allen and even Roy Kronk will never forget, imo.
Can cynthia say the same for casey anthony?
Barbara fl.
02-08-2009, 11:19 AM
Looks the the majority was right. This is a platform to reinforce Caylee as a missing child. The inference is there before any jumps on the "I didn't read that bandwagon".
Only the purest of hearts need attend aka will be plenty about Casey.
Caylee is above and more important then any and all other missing/murdered children. The Anthony's have NOMINATED her to do so.
Caylee was a murdered child and the person suspected of this murder sits in a cell across the street. If she were presumed innocent she would NOT be sitting in that cell period.
This is one of those symantics such as found not guilty. Not guilty doesn't say a person is innocent of the crime either. It means there was not enough evidence to convict.
Vindication of a crime occurs only when evidence is found to convict another of a crime.
TES was completely snubbed and were the people honestly trying to bring closure and sided with police evidence. Kidfinders kept the myth going perpetuating the false leads.
I can't believe the donations given to this family in particular the Church of Orlando to allow them to take it to this level when the Anthonys have an agenda to fulfill instead of it actually being a memorial.
I always said that......If a person was presumed innocent until proven guilty, then why are they in jail? No matter what the law says...when a person is charged with a crime it falls on the criminal to prove their innocense......they might go thru the trial and what ever....but that accused person still goes back to his cell every day after trial.....
In this case it is well deserved....and I can mention a few others that were also......JMOO
Barbara fl.
02-08-2009, 11:22 AM
Was wondering if anyone knows when she will go to trial for the check charges?
I believe they put that on the back burner until the outcome of this trial....I guess one would call it a "ace in the hole".....
Neffy
02-08-2009, 11:25 AM
I always said that......If a person was presumed innocent until proven guilty, then why are they in jail? No matter what the law says...when a person is charged with a crime it falls on the criminal to prove their innocense......they might go thru the trial and what ever....but that accused person still goes back to his cell every day after trial.....
In this case it is well deserved....and I can mention a few others that were also......JMOO
Casey is currently guilty by the preponderance of evidence and locked up for that reason. A preponderance of the evidence does not convict in a criminal trial. That is yet to come. It also doesn't diminish the fact that all evidence has led to her being the murderer of Caylee.
Pruddennce
02-08-2009, 11:25 AM
and some individuals had the nerve to compare the FUNERAL of Samantha Runnion to 'this'.....a little child's COFFIN was brought to church, her life prayed upon and then laid to rest...
people came with no provisions imposed upon them...and their belongings.
this is a travesty.
Cindy A is repulsive.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
PuffDragon
02-08-2009, 11:27 AM
Some of the people who spring to mind, who will NEVER forget Caylee are the Detectives who so diligently tried to find her, only to wind up in those woods, staring down into a garbage bag and seeing a tiny skull and bones.
Sheriff Beary, Detectives Melich and Allen and even Roy Kronk will never forget, imo.
Can cynthia say the same for casey anthony?
I have a feeling that Casey has already forgotten Caylee.
Barbara fl.
02-08-2009, 11:27 AM
Yes, I could be an impartial juror. At this point, I think she's guilty. Actually I think I KNOW she's guilty, but were I on the jury, I'd start over from there...clean slate.
Only problem with that is if someone ever got word that you were a juror and had made statements on the board about her being guilty....it would cause a mistrial for sure.....
They will screen every juror out thoroughly......I, myself (even being an extremely fair and non-judgemental person) would not be able to pass the test a juror is given, for this case....
I would have to excuse myself by saying "SHE'S GUILTY AS SIN"......
Barbara fl.
02-08-2009, 11:30 AM
I have a feeling that Casey has already forgotten Caylee.
I believe taht she forgot Caylee the minute after taking her life....she has absolutely no remorse about killing Caylee...Her only remorse is not having hid the body good enough.....even though I feel that she would have been convicted in any case.....but I don't think she thought that....
Her thought was "no body, no crime".......jmoo
101Spots
02-08-2009, 11:30 AM
other than the Kid Finder's mention, I thought it was a beautifully written statement and must've been heartbreaking to write.
I'll bet $5* Cindy did NOT write that. Somebody else cleaned up her language, grammar, and spelling. Guaranteed. Her input, sure, but she did NOT write that.
*5˘ is my usual betting limit.
Pruddennce
02-08-2009, 11:32 AM
I have a feeling that Casey has already forgotten Caylee.
her actions HOURS after the supposed 'abduction'...renting videos.....
this is what the jury hopefully will be presented with...that...and of course her very first jailhouse call "GIVE ME TONY's #!!!!". and "I saw your little cameo on tv, she says to her mother'....
????
her child is supposedly abducted, and how dare family members put forth on tv that her child is missing?
and of course her mother's response....
those two things, hopefully, will not be lost on the jurors.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
callmetree
02-08-2009, 11:32 AM
Whoops!!! Sorry, gang. My bad, maybe Coldwater will fix it.:blush:
i've messed up starting a new thread more times than i can remember... :blushing:
101Spots
02-08-2009, 11:34 AM
How did it get to you Willow? You are a softy, is what you are (and that's not bad, I wish I were more like you). I thought it was horribly manipulative and something about it made me cringe. I haven't wanted to try to figure out why it bothers me so much, but it just makes me grind my teeth.
Because it's codespeak for "Cindy is worse off than you are. Don't you feel sorry for her? Woe is Cindy."
It's all about Cindy.
Barbara fl.
02-08-2009, 11:35 AM
Casey is currently guilty by the preponderance of evidence and locked up for that reason. A preponderance of the evidence does not convict in a criminal trial. That is yet to come. It also doesn't diminish the fact that all evidence has led to her being the murderer of Caylee.
I certainly understand the preponderance of guilt and what it stands for......I was speaking in general....that it certainly appears that the person is guilty before the trial ever gets started.....
And although it fits well in this case and some others...not everyone is guilty of the crime accused of......
But the preponderance of evidence always makes the person look guilty more then innocent....(figuretively speaking).....JMOO
But Casey IS guilty either way.....
imlawlor
02-08-2009, 11:37 AM
I think it would kill me if I knew in my heart that the accused was guilty but the state hadn't proven its case and that I would be letting a murderer free. Do some jurors go with gut feeling even if the case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt?
Yes, that is why there a far too many wrongly convicted in the jails today. DNA is now proving people have been wrongly convicted of murder, rape and robbery. The feeling of responsiblity you feel as a juror in overwheming. It is very serious and one does have to take care to be very sure.
callmetree
02-08-2009, 11:38 AM
Candles for Caylee
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle
:rose::rose::rose:
Caylee's Guest Book
http://www.legacy.com/SPTimes/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=121581033
as always thanks ellegna
gaelicpeas
02-08-2009, 11:42 AM
Some of the people who spring to mind, who will NEVER forget Caylee are the Detectives who so diligently tried to find her, only to wind up in those woods, staring down into a garbage bag and seeing a tiny skull and bones.
Sheriff Beary, Detectives Melich and Allen and even Roy Kronk will never forget, imo.
Can cynthia say the same for casey anthony? Yes, all of them... and also all the little children in the area.
Januarybaby
02-08-2009, 11:46 AM
Its hard for someone to determine who is "pure of heart" and someone "who has only honorable intensions" when they are not that themselves.
Cindy Anthony = HYPOCRITE
This memorial is just another way of her trying to control everyone.
She will "punish" those that do not agree with her.
Barbara fl.
02-08-2009, 11:47 AM
and some individuals had the nerve to compare the FUNERAL of Samantha Runnion to 'this'.....a little child's COFFIN was brought to church, her life prayed upon and then laid to rest...
people came with no provisions imposed upon them...and their belongings.
this is a travesty.
Cindy A is repulsive.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
I too feel as though she is wrong in how she is handling Caylee's memorial....However, I also feel that at a time like this the families wishes should be respected....
Cindy can always be criticized afterwards for how she handled it.....
Cindy has to know in her heart that Casey is fully to blame for all of what is happening and has happened.....I think Cindy just doesn't want to be around "I told you so's" at this time.....even though EVERYONE attending will be having that thought....
And Cindy will have to live with this for the rest of her life.....
texski
02-08-2009, 11:49 AM
i have been called to jury duty three times. answered the questions truthfully. was thrown out every time. i know that some of the other people were hoping to be picked and were being very careful with the answers.
please a question to you posters. what is this with the nanny business. i know i am old, but i had baby sitters and day care . nanny was for wealthy families having live in , well educated and trained baby nurses.
where did the young lady get the nanny name idea???? do your young women friends have nannys??? do the young women in orlando have nannys?? no baby sitters, no day care.
this has been really bugging me. help??
Barbara fl.
02-08-2009, 11:50 AM
Also, with all of Cindy's restrictions, they might not need all those 5000 seats.....Some people will prefer to watch on TV and say their own prayers for little Caylee......
Barbara fl.
02-08-2009, 11:52 AM
i have been called to jury duty three times. answered the questions truthfully. was thrown out every time. i know that some of the other people were hoping to be picked and were being very careful with the answers.
please a question to you posters. what is this with the nanny business. i know i am old, but i had baby sitters and day care . nanny was for wealthy families having live in , well educated and trained baby nurses.
where did the young lady get the nanny name idea???? do your young women friends have nannys??? do the young women in orlando have nannys?? no baby sitters, no day care.
this has been really bugging me. help??
Casey portrayed herself as a person of which you described above.....baby sitter would not have fit in with her make believe life style......
gaelicpeas
02-08-2009, 11:52 AM
i have been called to jury duty three times. answered the questions truthfully. was thrown out every time. i know that some of the other people were hoping to be picked and were being very careful with the answers.
please a question to you posters. what is this with the nanny business. i know i am old, but i had baby sitters and day care . nanny was for wealthy families having live in , well educated and trained baby nurses.
where did the young lady get the nanny name idea???? do your young women friends have nannys??? do the young women in orlando have nannys?? no baby sitters, no day care.
this has been really bugging me. help??Hi Texski. I always thought a nanny was a live-in, also.
Januarybaby
02-08-2009, 11:54 AM
Also, with all of Cindy's restrictions, they might not need all those 5000 seats.....Some people will prefer to watch on TV and say their own prayers for little Caylee......
Cindy&Co. are probably worried someone will want to take a shot at them or tell her right to her face what crud she is. THis is why all the stipulations and to punish those that do not agree or pat her on the back and tell her shes wonderful.
I was brought up to believe God is everywhere. With that, I will pray for Caylee right here in my living room and I dont need to see Cindys circus to do it. Cindy cant control 99% of the world tho we all know she would like to.
Tracian
02-08-2009, 11:57 AM
i have been called to jury duty three times. answered the questions truthfully. was thrown out every time. i know that some of the other people were hoping to be picked and were being very careful with the answers.
please a question to you posters. what is this with the nanny business. i know i am old, but i had baby sitters and day care . nanny was for wealthy families having live in , well educated and trained baby nurses.
where did the young lady get the nanny name idea???? do your young women friends have nannys??? do the young women in orlando have nannys?? no baby sitters, no day care.
this has been really bugging me. help??
IMO, Casey like her mother is about 'status' She used the term 'nanny' because it sounds more 'classy' to Casey than 'babysiter' also, I think Casey wanted at least her friends to believe that she had this 'nanny' that kept Casey for long periods of time.
I agree with you the term 'nanny' never made sense; but then again what does Casey say that makes sense?
Neffy
02-08-2009, 11:57 AM
I too feel as though she is wrong in how she is handling Caylee's memorial....However, I also feel that at a time like this the families wishes should be respected....
Cindy can always be criticized afterwards for how she handled it.....
Cindy has to know in her heart that Casey is fully to blame for all of what is happening and has happened.....I think Cindy just doesn't want to be around "I told you so's" at this time.....even though EVERYONE attending will be having that thought....
And Cindy will have to live with this for the rest of her life.....
I have no respect for Cindy Anthony or her production. She will go to her grave that her entire family are victims to anyone but Casey. When you cover for a murderer you are no longer a victim but an accessory.
msgatorslayer
02-08-2009, 11:57 AM
I wonder how Cindy views her own Mom's heart. Is it pure? Time will tell.
cassidy
02-08-2009, 11:58 AM
Hi Texski. I always thought a nanny was a live-in, also.
Using the term nanny would make one feel ever so more important than using the term babysitter. It really isn't that important since she didn't have either. :0
kitty1182
02-08-2009, 12:00 PM
and some individuals had the nerve to compare the FUNERAL of Samantha Runnion to 'this'.....a little child's COFFIN was brought to church, her life prayed upon and then laid to rest...
people came with no provisions imposed upon them...and their belongings.
this is a travesty.
Cindy A is repulsive.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
Samantha's Mother is a class act...God bless her..
If Cindy thinks everyone attending the "public" funeral thinks Casey is innocent, she is so mistaken..imo
Januarybaby
02-08-2009, 12:02 PM
Sitting here thinking of Cindys statements, Im getting more and more aggravated. Who the he** is she to judge whether I may be pure of heart? I didnt kill any of my 4 children.
Hey Cindy......he without sin cast the 1st stone............
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 12:02 PM
IMO, Casey like her mother is about 'status' She used the term 'nanny' because it sounds more 'classy' to Casey than 'babysiter' also, I think Casey wanted at least her friends to believe that she had this 'nanny' that kept Casey for long periods of time.
I agree with you the term 'nanny' never made sense; but then again what does Casey say that makes sense?
ITA about Casey's use of the word "nanny."
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 12:03 PM
Samantha's Mother is a class act...God bless her..
If Cindy thinks everyone attending the "public" funeral thinks Casey is innocent, she is so mistaken..imo
bolding to address.
Oh my gosh, I doubt that she thinks that! :laugh:
Pruddennce
02-08-2009, 12:05 PM
Attorney NeJame's resignation was a clear indication of him not being able to assist as a spokesperson for this family.
Mainly because, "The other condition I required was that I would have absolutely nothing to do with representing Casey or assisting in her legal defense."and:
"I believe that the singular person out of the 6 billion people in the world who holds the key to finding Caylee is her mother, Casey Anthony. Although I was quite successful in resolving a multitude of matters, I am unable to go further to help George and Cindy find Caylee in my current role. I can only provide my best advice and must respect any client's prerogative to do what they deem is best, whether they choose to follow my guidance or not. However, there is little value or use I can provide to any client if they choose to act and comment at will."
NeJame could not continue to assist the Anthonys because he was another one who 'could not express a belief' they were searching for a dead child. and of course, their agenda was not being promoted by him. and......he didnt want to have anything to do with 'promoting the innocence of Casey'.
so in steps Conway who is 'on board' now after her remains have been found. He assumed the puppet role. Easy role, now that her remains are discovered. he is knee deep in promoting fodder..he has nothing 'serious' to attend to at this point....unless something 'serious' does come down with CA and GA...
....at that point all we will see is a blurred pic of the back of his head heading out of their mess with 'no comment' and looking for an attorney for himself.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
Tracian
02-08-2009, 12:12 PM
ITA about Casey's use of the word "nanny."
I am writing this down on the Calendar...we agreed on something in this case!!!!!! I thought the day would never come...
:lol::lol:
psbperu
02-08-2009, 12:13 PM
Only problem with that is if someone ever got word that you were a juror and had made statements on the board about her being guilty....it would cause a mistrial for sure.....
They will screen every juror out thoroughly......I, myself (even being an extremely fair and non-judgemental person) would not be able to pass the test a juror is given, for this case....
I would have to excuse myself by saying "SHE'S GUILTY AS SIN"......
ITA:
Last nite I listened to the the taped interview the detectives did on July 16th...& continued on to the the hour tape when she brought them to Universal Studios.
Usually consider myself somewhat fair in judging the evidence in a case & the accused but in this one I could never be a juror.
The detectives were right on the money in that second interview as to what had happened to Caylee. After all the lies I am amazed that Casey Anthony was able to "stick" to her story. Clever young lady but she is deluding herself in thinking she can outwit the prosecutors & the evidence in this case.
No way could I ever be a juror for this trial. I wish she would give it up & not put her family & friends through the emotional turmoil of a trial.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 12:15 PM
and donate their money to reputable charities.....or...here's a thought....TES....who almost went bankrupt trying to find poor little Caylee.....imo
It's not at all unusual at a memorial or funeral or in an obit or website to "suggest" a charity that is dear to someone's own heart. Of course anyone can choose to donate their money elsewhere, that's a given. I wouldn't donate Kid Finders myself, but I don't begrudge them mentioning it.
read-in
02-08-2009, 12:15 PM
I have more trust and belief in the american public. I dont believe cindy gives credit, to those that wish to attend this memorial of her slain grandchild. It's not, and should never be about anyone except Caylee.It is not the time or place to condemn anyone... I honestly hope that this is the case.
there will be plenty of time to lay blame and point fingers. Tuesday is for caylee, and for those that chose to put her, in their hearts and lives. RIP little one.
Tracian
02-08-2009, 12:16 PM
I don't think there's a drug that rhymes with babysitter.....imo
This is true. It's too bad that we will never know for sure if Casey had drugged Caylee with Xanax....BTW, didn't Cindy have a script for Xanax? or was that just specualtion?
TIA
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 12:17 PM
I am writing this down on the Calendar...we agreed on something in this case!!!!!! I thought the day would never come...
:lol:
We probably agree on much more as well. Only thing is, my primary focus is on Casey and the actual murder of her daughter. I leave Cindy and George and Lee alone. :wink:
Hey it's all good. :smile:
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 12:19 PM
This is true. It's too bad that we will never know for sure if Casey had drugged Caylee with Xanax....BTW, didn't Cindy have a script for Xanax? or was that just specualtion?
TIA
I think absolutely everything about Xanax is purely message board speculation. The ONLY reference I've seen to it in actual case information is the one Anne Downing reference. I don't think Xanax has anything at all to do with this case, actually. Nothing.
Tracian
02-08-2009, 12:20 PM
We probably agree on much more as well. Only thing is, my primary focus is on Casey and the actual murder of her daughter. I leave Cindy and George and Lee alone. :wink:
Hey it's all good. :smile:
I was really just kidding with you, I know we agree on several things.
I would leave Cindy and George alone as well, if they would stop doing and saying things that are questionable, at least IMO.
Pruddennce
02-08-2009, 12:21 PM
Samantha's Mother is a class act...God bless her..
If Cindy thinks everyone attending the "public" funeral thinks Casey is innocent, she is so mistaken..imo
and for me its not about that....its about what 'this' is...its not a funeral. they are not laying her to rest.
which I dont believe for a minute that Casey is refusing to release her remains.
if she is preventing her parents from having jurisdiction over her final arrangements, where are the Anthony's court request to have that right honored?
IMO, since Cindy acquired anonymous funds to do 'this' she is going to spend it before something else comes up with Casey....for instance, Casey going after her parents for that money for her defense.
after all, Casey's remark about the reward money was revealing...wow thats half my bond. <----did not express any emotion about how the public feels about finding her child, that the reward would grow so large FOR CAYLEE...nope...its me me me.
Cindy needs to get 'her show on"
IMO
best regards,
Pru
Tracian
02-08-2009, 12:23 PM
I think absolutely everything about Xanax is purely message board speculation. The ONLY reference I've seen to it in actual case information is the one Anne Downing reference. I don't think Xanax has anything at all to do with this case, actually. Nothing.
That is why I asked. I thought somewhere it came out that prescriptions were removed from the house...but again, there has been so much stuff out there, it is hard to keep the fact from speculation.
I do wonder, if Casey did sedate Caylee though, Richardo mentions that she joked about knocking her out on cold medicine...hardly a smoking gun, and sadly, due to the condition of the remains, testing cannot verify cause of death or long term drugging.
bonnie31430
02-08-2009, 12:23 PM
I think it would kill me if I knew in my heart that the accused was guilty but the state hadn't proven its case and that I would be letting a murderer free. Do some jurors go with gut feeling even if the case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt?
I feel the same way , just like this murderess is going to walk away free.
what i would really like to know is where did caylee stay? There was no nanny, casey didn't work so where
nc1948
02-08-2009, 12:23 PM
I have a feeling that Casey has already forgotten Caylee.
I believe her actions from day one has shown that she forgot Caylee immediately after she killed her.
Neffy
02-08-2009, 12:24 PM
It almost seems as if Cindy is inviting trouble with the the way she is marketing this event with who's NOT invited and who has a pure heart according to Cindy. I wish they would have just had a dignified private service for Caylee. moo
Cindy is incapable of being dignified. She is the worst of the worst of hypocrites will be the judge of everything and refuses to be questioned publicly but will give condescending pubic statements.
Caylee has still not been put to rest or given a proper burial and this is just a sideshow I believe as Pru put it part of Cindy's Münchausen syndrome to draw attention.
Tracian
02-08-2009, 12:25 PM
I do "begrudge" them mentioning it because a lot of ppl probably don't know that Kidfinders has never looked for a child.....they probably don't know that the founders are convicted felons.....
a lot of ppl probably don't know how the anthonys have done everything in their power to protect casey ....including obstruction of the investigation......
I'll be glad when Tuesday is over.....so glad....imo
I keep wondering why they went through kidfinders...why not another organisation that actually has a good, clean record?
Has Kidfinders ever been investigated? TIA
Pebbles
02-08-2009, 12:28 PM
I guess not finding children will be Cindy's new line of work. I feel sick. jmo
The Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation which the Anthony's are going to run.
Is this foundation going to be used to find missing children like KidFinders, where the people running it will be making money to put in their pockets why they give out tee shirts and a rolling billboard and say they are "searching" for missing chidlren?
I will donate to more worthy causes in Caylee's name, thank you.
That is why I asked. I thought somewhere it came out that prescriptions were removed from the house...but again, there has been so much stuff out there, it is hard to keep the fact from speculation.
I do wonder, if Casey did sedate Caylee though, Richardo mentions that she joked about knocking her out on cold medicine...hardly a smoking gun, and sadly, due to the condition of the remains, testing cannot verify cause of death or long term drugging.
Tracian, I believe testing can be done on the hair of the remains to see if Caylee had been regularly drugged. I won't be surprised to find out this has been done.
amchess
02-08-2009, 12:28 PM
It would be interesting to be on this jury and hear what the defense has to say. I have been on 4 juries and the each jury agreed -no mistrials. I am hoping it moves to the Tampa Bay area so I could at least watch in person..
CelticDawn
02-08-2009, 12:31 PM
It's not at all unusual at a memorial or funeral or in an obit or website to "suggest" a charity that is dear to someone's own heart. Of course anyone can choose to donate their money elsewhere, that's a given. I wouldn't donate Kid Finders myself, but I don't begrudge them mentioning it.
Im going to send TES a check...in caylees name...and a short thank you note.
Cindy is incapable of being dignified. -snip-
And there you have it in a nutshell.
When the last video of the Aug jailhouse visit was released, George got so upset at that reporter who asked if he though Caylee was dead. IMO, George probably did, but didn't want it put into words. He lashed out, but kept going.
Cindy, OTOH, was going to mix it up with the reporter and George kept pulling her away.
Cindy, I believe, based on what I've seen, enjoys getting into people's faces to argue. Like a dog with a bone, she just won't let it go.
Her mother was right. Cindy should have listened.
CelticDawn
02-08-2009, 12:34 PM
Tracian, I believe testing can be done on the hair of the remains to see if Caylee had been regularly drugged. I won't be surprised to find out this has been done.
some testing of bone can also be very telling. I dont understand it but it has something to do with the ca Ph ratios and other elements percentage present.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 12:34 PM
That is why I asked. I thought somewhere it came out that prescriptions were removed from the house...but again, there has been so much stuff out there, it is hard to keep the fact from speculation.
I do wonder, if Casey did sedate Caylee though, Richardo mentions that she joked about knocking her out on cold medicine...hardly a smoking gun, and sadly, due to the condition of the remains, testing cannot verify cause of death or long term drugging.
I recall that LE "took photos" of the medicine cabinet, Tracian. I remember that well because at the time I thought, gee why didn't they take the contents of the medicine cabinet, why photos? That was explained to me, though I don't remember why. I think LE was just checking things out.....nothing specific about any drug or Xanax in particular.
As far as the joke.....well I remember when my own son was a toddler, he had a thing about refusing to nap. It drove me up a wall! I can imagine making a stupid joke like, "oh I'd like to shove some Nyquil down his throat to make him sleep." Of course I never did do that or even make a joke about it and I can assure you I love my son more than life itself.....
I guess in the absence of any hard evidence, I just won't go there. I think the chloroform info in large part got everyone speculating about Casey making a regular habit of drugging Casey.....I don't buy it but again, mainly because there is no real evidence of such.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 12:36 PM
Im going to send TES a check...in caylees name...and a short thank you note.
I'm sure you won't be the only one to do that, and they will be truly blessed by your sentiment and generosity.
CelticDawn
02-08-2009, 12:37 PM
I'm sure you won't be the only one to do that, and they will be truly blessed by your sentiment and generosity.
They weren't looking "for a dead Caylee" IMO....They were looking for Caylee no matter what.
trich
02-08-2009, 12:37 PM
I think absolutely everything about Xanax is purely message board speculation. The ONLY reference I've seen to it in actual case information is the one Anne Downing reference. I don't think Xanax has anything at all to do with this case, actually. Nothing.
I agree!
I think the only reason Zanny the Nanny was even mentioned
is because of the storybook that had a charactor that was Zanny the Nanny.
I don't recall the name of the kids's book but Imo that is where it all came from and then of course Casey found out about Zenaida and on it went from there.
It would be interesting to know if there is any evidence of that book ever being in the Anthony's house.
CC I See
02-08-2009, 12:43 PM
You may be right Willow. I just don't see how they can ignore it. Casey told her friends that Caylee was with the nanny....at the beach, disney, etc. They have to find a nanny to pin this on!!!.... the Nanny Did It Defense doesn't work anymore. When Baez keeps stating that Casey is innocent, could it be that he is going for an accidental death defense? If they were going to blame it on someone wouldn't you think that they would be pushing LE to look at other people instead of Casey? Who had access to Caylee.... that would be the family, but there isn't a clear motive why any of them would harm Caylee. Only Casey had motive.
trich
02-08-2009, 12:43 PM
some testing of bone can also be very telling. I dont understand it but it has something to do with the ca Ph ratios and other elements percentage present.
On one of NG shows there was a doctor that claimed the bones
could reveal drug use.
I have no idea if this is really true or not .....so many "experts" that we find out don't know what they are talking about when it comes
to appearing on tv or they stretch the truth( I am trying to be polite by using that term).
It's ludicrous, imo. Going by that standard the first person to be denied and barred from anything to do with this memorial should be the odious creature who murdered Caylee Anthony, her mother casey anthony, imo.
:thumbsup:
Cury-us Coyote
02-08-2009, 12:46 PM
Caylee Anthony service: Will focus be on the victim?
Padilla said he hasn't spoken with the family, but that Cindy Anthony told his nephew that he was not supposed to be present at the First Baptist Church of Orlando.
...
Khalili noted that the Anthonys might not want Padilla, but attorneys for Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez do. Padilla met with them last week about her defamation suit against Casey Anthony.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/caylee-anthony-service-will-focus-be-on-the-victim.html
CelticDawn
02-08-2009, 12:48 PM
Caylee Anthony service: Will focus be on the victim?
Padilla said he hasn't spoken with the family, but that Cindy Anthony told his nephew that he was not supposed to be present at the First Baptist Church of Orlando.
...
Khalili noted that the Anthonys might not want Padilla, but attorneys for Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez do. Padilla met with them last week about her defamation suit against Casey Anthony.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/caylee-anthony-service-will-focus-be-on-the-victim.html
:read: Get out yalls hip boots because it is gonna get deep! :read:
I have a comment to make about Cindys article.
I would have liked to see her thank all the people that searched for Caylee, thank the person that found Caylee, and thank all the people who continue to seek justice for Caylee, and invite all those touched by her tragic life, to her memorial.
:crying:
Great post. ITA.
IMO
martha
02-08-2009, 12:59 PM
Specially if his judge stays, didn't he say "Miss Anthony and the truth are strangers"? which I thought was so unethical of him to say, but I loved it anyways. :tonguewag:
I T A I liked lit when the judge said that I just can;t figure out what jb is going to come to court with. He has a lot of people helping him and I am sure they will say none of the e is any good. I know it will take a long time to try this trial but I wonder if g and c and lee will be there everyday. casey is right where she needs to be until they can prove someone elce did this. jmho
martha
02-08-2009, 01:01 PM
I have a comment to make about Cindys article.
I would have liked to see her thank all the people that searched for Caylee, thank the person that found Caylee, and thank all the people who continue to seek justice for Caylee, and invite all those touched by her tragic life, to her memorial.
:crying: ITA with you this is what I would love to see cindy do but I can;t see her doing anything close to that. Maybe I am wrong and she will come out with something like that. she needs to do it before the trial.jmho
playnice
02-08-2009, 01:02 PM
I have a feeling this memorial will be put on to try to make Casey look like "The Mother Of The Year". Pictures of KC & Caylee, videos, and I would not be surprised to see something read or a message from Casey.
Question is, How are the audience going to react?
kitty1182
02-08-2009, 01:03 PM
bolding to address.
Oh my gosh, I doubt that she thinks that! :laugh:
LOL..HI SS...I sure hope she doesn't..:ohmy:
happygert
02-08-2009, 01:05 PM
:lol:......Ok were going backwards.....January 8th... someone is a month behind....
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:06 PM
I have a feeling this memorial will be put on to try to make Casey look like "The Mother Of The Year". Pictures of KC & Caylee, videos, and I would not be surprised to see something read or a message from Casey.
Question is, How are the audience going to react?
I don't think that will happen.
*MoonRider*
02-08-2009, 01:07 PM
I have a comment to make about Cindys article.
I would have liked to see her thank all the people that searched for Caylee, thank the person that found Caylee, and thank all the people who continue to seek justice for Caylee, and invite all those touched by her tragic life, to her memorial.
:crying:
Wouldn't we all. But if she did say that it would be totally out of character. Every time there is a choice of the right or wrong thing to do or say, to rehabilitate her image, she causes more ill will. IMO she is a very angry and bitter woman. I only wish she showed anger towards the only one that has caused all of this pain. moo
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 01:08 PM
How did it get to you Willow? You are a softy, is what you are (and that's not bad, I wish I were more like you). I thought it was horribly manipulative and something about it made me cringe. I haven't wanted to try to figure out why it bothers me so much, but it just makes me grind my teeth.
Yes I admit I am a big softy. The tiniest thing can and does bring a tear to my eyes. In a way I'm hoping we are seeing a new side to Cindy.
101Spots
02-08-2009, 01:11 PM
Caylee Anthony service: Will focus be on the victim?
Padilla said he hasn't spoken with the family, but that Cindy Anthony told his nephew that he was not supposed to be present at the First Baptist Church of Orlando.
...
Khalili noted that the Anthonys might not want Padilla, but attorneys for Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez do. Padilla met with them last week about her defamation suit against Casey Anthony.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/caylee-anthony-service-will-focus-be-on-the-victim.html
I hope Lenny spills his guts and sings the entire opera for ZFhyphenG's attorneys.
nc1948
02-08-2009, 01:11 PM
The Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation which the Anthony's are going to run.
Is this foundation going to be used to find missing children like KidFinders, where the people running it will be making money to put in their pockets why they give out tee shirts and a rolling billboard and say they are "searching" for missing chidlren?
I will donate to more worthy causes in Caylee's name, thank you.
A rolling billboard with a non working number.
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 01:12 PM
I hope Lenny spills his guts and sings the entire opera for ZFhyphenG's attorneys.
Why would Z's lawyer want Lenny there?
Pruddennce
02-08-2009, 01:13 PM
On one of NG shows there was a doctor that claimed the bones
could reveal drug use.
I have no idea if this is really true or not .....so many "experts" that we find out don't know what they are talking about when it comes
to appearing on tv or they stretch the truth( I am trying to be polite by using that term).
not sure either, however, this article relates to fingerprint analysis and drug use.
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/12/10/fingerprint-drugs.html
it doesnt appear to be ready for use, this particular fingerprint analysis.
it would certainly be a great tool in this case, regarding Caylee's fingerprints. which should be all over the place in the Anthony home, toys, the car, etc.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
101Spots
02-08-2009, 01:14 PM
Why would Z's lawyer want Lenny there?
I imagine he's using the Shotgun approach. Surely one of those pellets will hit something if he fires enough of them.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:16 PM
Yes I admit I am a big softy. The tiniest thing can and does bring a tear to my eyes. In a way I'm hoping we are seeing a new side to Cindy.
Perhaps we are. But I for one don't really care if WE are seeing a new side to Cindy or not. Her hell is very private. She knows. Tears are brought to my eyes as well, Willow.
CC I See
02-08-2009, 01:18 PM
Some of the people who spring to mind, who will NEVER forget Caylee are the Detectives who so diligently tried to find her, only to wind up in those woods, staring down into a garbage bag and seeing a tiny skull and bones.
Sheriff Beary, Detectives Melich and Allen and even Roy Kronk will never forget, imo.
Can cynthia say the same for casey anthony? ... and they will not be welcome to the Memorial will they?
nc1948
02-08-2009, 01:18 PM
I have a comment to make about Cindys article.
I would have liked to see her thank all the people that searched for Caylee, thank the person that found Caylee, and thank all the people who continue to seek justice for Caylee, and invite all those touched by her tragic life, to her memorial.
:crying:
Bless your heart, but you are asking for something Cindy cannot give. She called Tim a thief, the searchers were maggots, LE are scum , and all those touched by CAYLEE tragic life will remember her for only a short time. Not putting words in your mouth, but I think you meant to say Tragic death, But unfortunately, I believe this child had a tragic life too.
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 01:20 PM
Perhaps we are. But I for one don't really care if WE are seeing a new side to Cindy or not. Her hell is very private. She knows. Tears are brought to my eyes as well, Willow.
I imagine after Tuesday when this dies down some she is going to really have to face the truth, and face the guilt that she is undoubtedly feeling. :sad:
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 01:22 PM
Bless your heart, but you are asking for something Cindy cannot give. She called Tim a thief, the searchers were maggots, LE are scum , and all those touched by CAYLEE tragic life will remember her for only a short time. Not putting words in your mouth, but I think you meant to say Tragic death, But unfortunately, I believe this child had a tragic life too.
ITA, but I am hoping that was emotions speaking, we don't know yet, but maybe she will thank everyone Tuesday. I will be disappointed if she doesn't.
nc1948
02-08-2009, 01:23 PM
I don't think that will happen.
Savannah, I so hope you can say I told you so. I really hope and pray this is a respectful memorial for only Caylee. Unfortunately, by observing past performances, I expect it to be a full blown Casey, the Mother of the Year , tribute. With lots of pictures of Casey. I do expect a message from Casey to Caylee as to how much she loved her and misses her. I so hope I am wrong. But will not watch to find out as I belive funerals and memorials are for family and friends that knew her while she was alive. I have never attended a funeral or memorial for someone I did not know.
I hope you are right.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:24 PM
Bless your heart, but you are asking for something Cindy cannot give. She called Tim a thief, the searchers were maggots, LE are scum , and all those touched by CAYLEE tragic life will remember her for only a short time. Not putting words in your mouth, but I think you meant to say Tragic death, But unfortunately, I believe this child had a tragic life too.
I think she had a most tragic death, of course. But conversely I think she had a very beautiful life. Pictures tell the story, in part. And videos. She looked cherished and absolutely happy and in love with her little life. It was so obvious......a joy-filled little girl who adored all her family. I think often of the pics in the pool with her and Cindy and George....the pic of her by the pool with her tiny blue crocs.....the photos of her making silly faces with sunglasses on. The photo of her at Easter with her basket in the backyard.....the photo of her running the vaccuum cleaner......and on and on.
She had a wonderful life of a beloved and adored little girl growing up in Florida with her family. Too bad her mother had to end it. IMO.
CC I See
02-08-2009, 01:24 PM
I imagine after Tuesday when this dies down some she is going to really have to face the truth, and face the guilt that she is undoubtedly feeling. :sad:... and I'm sure that she will note her feelings in the book and movie script so we will know her anguish.
Mamie
02-08-2009, 01:27 PM
I agree!
I think the only reason Zanny the Nanny was even mentioned
is because of the storybook that had a charactor that was Zanny the Nanny.
I don't recall the name of the kids's book but Imo that is where it all came from and then of course Casey found out about Zenaida and on it went from there.
It would be interesting to know if there is any evidence of that book ever being in the Anthony's house.
According to Greta, Dec. 2008, the name of the book is "Double Double Trouble". It has a character named Zanny in it.
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 01:28 PM
I think she had a most tragic death, of course. But conversely I think she had a very beautiful life. Pictures tell the story, in part. And videos. She looked cherished and absolutely happy and in love with her little life. It was so obvious......a joy-filled little girl who adored all her family. I think often of the pics in the pool with her and Cindy and George....the pic of her by the pool with her tiny blue crocs.....the photos of her making silly faces with sunglasses on. The photo of her at Easter with her basket in the backyard.....the photo of her running the vaccuum cleaner......and on and on.
She had a wonderful life of a beloved and adored little girl growing up in Florida with her family. Too bad her mother had to end it. IMO.
I will agree with you there, BUT, it's the "pictures" that we haven't seen that I wonder about. I wonder how many times Casey thought about ending her daughters life.
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 01:29 PM
... and I'm sure that she will note her feelings in the book and movie script so we will know her anguish.
you can't know what you don't buy. :sneaky:
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:31 PM
I will agree with you there, BUT, it's the "pictures" that we haven't seen that I wonder about. I wonder how many times Casey thought about ending her daughters life.
I don't think she did. My opinion only.
happygert
02-08-2009, 01:32 PM
Wouldn't we all. But if she did say that it would be totally out of character. Every time there is a choice of the right or wrong thing to do or say, to rehabilitate her image, she causes more ill will. IMO she is a very angry and bitter woman. I only wish she showed anger towards the only one that has caused all of this pain. moo
That will never happen... Even reading her statement.. She's still covering for casey....still reading between the lines shes saying casey's innocent...can you say jackie peterson...two peas in a pod..This service is for her to spread the word so to speak that casey DID NOT MURDER Caylee..
cindy has never done the right thing from get go why would she start now? Instead of thanking the thousands who looked for Caylee and the ones who spent thousands she uses this to make more digs...
I feel bad for Tim Miller and Lenny.. I wish Lenny would spill everything..It didn't Take Tim long to say what was on his mind about casey.. IMO this is why they aren't wanted at the service...you don't go against the spiteful narcissistic *icthes in this case..jmo
Everyone who has done anything good in this case has been drugged thru the mud...Just like she could have said please make donations to TES because of casey they are busted ..OH no she chose the KFN...The felons..Just to make aother dig at Tim...jmo
5boxersmom
02-08-2009, 01:33 PM
Why does it seem even in the eulogy Cindy is getting her pokes in to people? Saying that about seeing Caylee on tv. Not mentioning TES.
Just seems some of it is revenge to a point. I may be wrong and I hope I am.
imo
myopinion
02-08-2009, 01:33 PM
I have a comment to make about Cindys article.
I would have liked to see her thank all the people that searched for Caylee, thank the person that found Caylee, and thank all the people who continue to seek justice for Caylee, and invite all those touched by her tragic life, to her memorial.
:crying:
I am posting for the first time but I have to say I agree with this point!:sad:
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:34 PM
That will never happen... Even reading her statement.. She's still covering for casey....still reading between the lines shes saying casey's innocent...
*snipped*
Where do you see she says Casey is innocent? :confused:
Pruddennce
02-08-2009, 01:35 PM
Why does it seem even in the eulogy Cindy is getting her pokes in to people? Saying that about seeing Caylee on tv. Not mentioning TES.
Just seems some of it is revenge to a point. I may be wrong and I hope I am.
imo
you are not imagining it.
IMO, she will be back in full Cindy-mode having sitdowns to talk about her 'show' after 'this'.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
eastside joe
02-08-2009, 01:35 PM
I think she had a most tragic death, of course. But conversely I think she had a very beautiful life. Pictures tell the story, in part. And videos. She looked cherished and absolutely happy and in love with her little life. It was so obvious......a joy-filled little girl who adored all her family. I think often of the pics in the pool with her and Cindy and George....the pic of her by the pool with her tiny blue crocs.....the photos of her making silly faces with sunglasses on. The photo of her at Easter with her basket in the backyard.....the photo of her running the vaccuum cleaner......and on and on.
She had a wonderful life of a beloved and adored little girl growing up in Florida with her family. Too bad her mother had to end it. IMO.
The back and forth banter of Casey and Cindy. Complete with swear words. The alleged bruise on the toddlers face, as witnessed by a hair stylist. Grandparents that never met the nanny of several years. Having to attend a no clothes party with your mom and her friends. Having to go who knows where day after day when your mother was supposedly going to work. Sounds like a beautiful, wonderful life to me for a two year old.
You may be wishing on a star.
IMO
Beach~Tenant
02-08-2009, 01:36 PM
I don't really believe she wrote that herself. I'm willing to bet the phrasing was all suggested by counsel. I'm sure it reflects her wishes though. Probably her first draft would have had us over the moon and somebody had to clean it up for her. It really does sound more like an obit than a .... a...... whatever it was. Press release, I guess.
what about Georges side of the family? Or what about RICK?? I suppose even during the most tragic times in their life, burnt brodges still arn't worth re-building!!! thats too bad!! Prescious Caylee deserves far better!!!
:sad:
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 01:37 PM
The back and forth banter of Casey and Cindy. Complete with swear words. The alleged bruise on the toddlers face, as witnessed by a hair stylist. Grandparents that never met the nanny of several years. Having to attend a no clothes party with your mom and her friends. Having to go who knows where day after day when your mother was supposedly going to work. Sounds like a beautiful, wonderful life to me for a two year old.
You may be wishing on a star.
IMO
I don't make much of the bruise, children that age are always falling. I'm just buying that Caylee was a victim of abuse.
5boxersmom
02-08-2009, 01:38 PM
what about Georges side of the family? Or what about RICK?? I suppose even during the most tragic times in their life, burnt brodges still arn't worth re-building!!! thats too bad!! Prescious Caylee deserves far better!!!
:sad:
Mallory wasn't mentioned either. :confused:
Neffy
02-08-2009, 01:38 PM
Why would Z's lawyer want Lenny there?
Lenny bailed Casey out to look for Caylee and what information he was given regarding Zanny.
?noanswer
02-08-2009, 01:38 PM
I imagine after Tuesday when this dies down some she is going to really have to face the truth, and face the guilt that she is undoubtedly feeling. :sad:
Wonder if she will go back to work. JMO
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:39 PM
I don't make much of the bruise, children that age are always falling. I'm just buying that Caylee was a victim of abuse.
Not at all. Not at all.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:40 PM
what about Georges side of the family? Or what about RICK?? I suppose even during the most tragic times in their life, burnt brodges still arn't worth re-building!!! thats too bad!! Prescious Caylee deserves far better!!!
:sad:
Hey for Rick to go on public message boards and "air the family's dirty laundry".....I'm not sure I'd ever even speak to him again.
The emails are one thing. I can get past that. NOT going on message boards though. No way.
Sad. Very sad.
nc1948
02-08-2009, 01:41 PM
The back and forth banter of Casey and Cindy. Complete with swear words. The alleged bruise on the toddlers face, as witnessed by a hair stylist. Grandparents that never met the nanny of several years. Having to attend a no clothes party with your mom and her friends. Having to go who knows where day after day when your mother was supposedly going to work. Sounds like a beautiful, wonderful life to me for a two year old.
You may be wishing on a star.
IMO
I agree, I do not see Caylee as having a wonderful life. But that is my opinion, I was not there. Didn't Cindy complain to co-workers about having to keep her so much. (If this is not true, sorry, I really thought I had read it, but cannot find it now.) She was at adult parties, she sleep with her mother and her mothers boy friends. I have not seen or heard of any children she was allowed to play with. Caylee was a smart, precious child, and obviously she had a loving personality, don't think she got it from her mother or grandmother.
I went to Memorial service yesterday for a 15 year old boy. Very sad. His parents spoke at the service. They talked all about him. They shared stories about his life. Memories of little things that made people smile. He was the focus of their words.
Published in the bulletin was information on how to donate. That was not at all part of their words about their son.
There is a marked difference between what I saw yesterday and Cindy's focus.
My observation. IMO.
smileyjoe
02-08-2009, 01:42 PM
Why does it seem even in the eulogy Cindy is getting her pokes in to people? Saying that about seeing Caylee on tv. Not mentioning TES.
Just seems some of it is revenge to a point. I may be wrong and I hope I am.
imo
You're not alone in those feelings 5.
I was
:blink:
then I was
:cuss:
I logged on to see if anyone felt the same way.
Joe.
Mallory wasn't mentioned either. :confused:
Lee and both sets of great-grandparents were mentioned. No mention of Rick or the rest of the extended family.
I don't read obits often, but isn't a catch-all phrase such as, "...and the rest of xxx's loving family..." used to cover all family members not specifically named?
I found the eulogy impersonal and cold, but it may not come across like that when delivered. Who is going to do this? The pastor of the church?
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:44 PM
I went to Memorial service yesterday for a 15 year old boy. Very sad. His parents spoke at the service. They talked all about him. They shared stories about his life. Memories of little things that made people smile. He was the focus of their words.
Published in the bulletin was information on how to donate. That was not at all part of their words about their son.
There is a marked difference between what I saw yesterday and Cindy's focus.
My observation. IMO.
Interesting. Though how can you know there is a "marked difference" when you saw that memorial and you have not seen Caylee's yet?
Do you know that at the Tuesday memorial there will not be talking all about Caylee, sharing stories about her life, memories of little things that made people smile, that Caylee would not be the focus of their words?
I wonder how you know that, when Caylee's memorial hasn't happened yet.
Cury-us Coyote
02-08-2009, 01:46 PM
Wonder if she will go back to work. JMO
http://www.healthjobsusa.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=display&source=simplyhired&ID=51970736&usr=gentivaupload
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 01:46 PM
Not at all. Not at all.
LOL Thanks Savannah, I forgot the word "NOT"
Pruddennce
02-08-2009, 01:47 PM
I think she had a most tragic death, of course. But conversely I think she had a very beautiful life. Pictures tell the story, in part. And videos. She looked cherished and absolutely happy and in love with her little life. It was so obvious......a joy-filled little girl who adored all her family. I think often of the pics in the pool with her and Cindy and George....the pic of her by the pool with her tiny blue crocs.....the photos of her making silly faces with sunglasses on. The photo of her at Easter with her basket in the backyard.....the photo of her running the vaccuum cleaner......and on and on.
She had a wonderful life of a beloved and adored little girl growing up in Florida with her family. Too bad her mother had to end it. IMO.
mere moments in time SS.
that was not her life.
where was Caylee ALL DAY LONG while her mother claimed she was going to work?
where did she spend her days?
we already know that she spent many a nite on a couch in a BF or friend's apartment when Casey couldnt swing another babysitting gig with Cindy....
we know she slept in the same bed with Casey and her latest flavor of the week boyfriend.
pictures do not tell the entire story.
I call that her weekend pleasantries. it wasnt her daily life.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
Interesting. Though how can you know there is a "marked difference" when you saw that memorial and you have not seen Caylee's yet?
Do you know that at the Tuesday memorial there will not be talking all about Caylee, sharing stories about her life, memories of little things that made people smile, that Caylee would not be the focus of their words?
I wonder how you know that, when Caylee's memorial hasn't happened yet.
I was referring to the eulogy I saw yesterday and the eulogy I read today. So, I can compare the 2. Cindy put in out in the Orlando Sentinel for all to read. That's what I did. And it was IMO.
Dells
02-08-2009, 01:47 PM
In her own words: Cindy Anthony says Caylee 'will be watching over so many other children'
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,7648048.story
"The family is requesting, in lieu of flowers, that donations be made to Eastside Baptist Church, 1900 Conway Gardens Road in Orlando; Orlando Rescue Mission; or Kid Finders Network."
This is a bad way for me to start my day but what did I really expect? Every time I try to garner a bit of sympathy for Cindy, she does it again. God Bless Caylee.
Thanks for the link. Something did not sit well w/me w/this article. Caylee was NEVER a missing child. She was a child that was murdered by her mother and thrown away like trash.:mad: It seems like the Anthony's are in denial and still going w/Casey's lies that a nanny kidnapped Caylee and then murdered her. The only problem is that Caylee was never kidnapped and therefore never a missing child because she never left her mother's care. Until her mother threw her away like trash.
I don't fault the Anthony's for standing by their daughter and even saying that they support her. They can support her and still feel that she is responsible for Caylee's murder. Their denial is what I can't understand. That denial is totally disrespecting Caylee's memory.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:50 PM
I was referring to the eulogy I saw yesterday and the eulogy I read today. So, I can compare the 2. Cindy put in out in the Orlando Sentinel for all to read. That's what I did. And it was IMO.
We'll see how the actual memorial goes, huh? Maybe you'll change your mind.
-snip-
Both Casey and Cindy will spend the rest of their lives putting fresh coats of polish on their own stories about how they lack any responsibility for the horrible end Caylee came to.
I'm sure of it.
To be fair, Cindy is NOT responsible for Caylee's death. Cover-up, yes. Lying, yes. Very bad public behavior, yes.
There is only one person responsible for Caylee's death, and that is Casey. Pros and LE have said Casey acted alone.
Whether or not it was an accident or premeditated, Casey is the only one being held on murder charges.
?noanswer
02-08-2009, 01:51 PM
http://www.healthjobsusa.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?action=display&source=simplyhired&ID=51970736&usr=gentivaupload
Is this the position that C had? If so, do they have more than 1? I cannot see an organization holding a position open forever. The work has to be done no matter what. If other employees were taking on added responsibility to do that job, they need a break by now. JMO
We'll see how the actual memorial goes, huh? Maybe you'll change your mind.
I would like nothing better.
IMO
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:52 PM
To be fair, Cindy is NOT responsible for Caylee's death. Cover-up, yes. Lying, yes. Very bad public behavior, yes.
There is only one person responsible for Caylee's death, and that is Casey. Pros and LE have said Casey acted alone.
Whether or not it was an accident or premeditated, Casey is the only one being held on murder charges.
How easily that is forgotten.
And oh I've read posts on here that say if it weren't for Cindy, Caylee would be alive today.
:sad:
Neffy
02-08-2009, 01:52 PM
I have a comment to make about Cindys article.
I would have liked to see her thank all the people that searched for Caylee, thank the person that found Caylee, and thank all the people who continue to seek justice for Caylee, and invite all those touched by her tragic life, to her memorial.
:crying:
Has anyone from Camp Anthony ever contacted Kronk?
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 01:52 PM
I can think what I want about Cindy but this could not have been easy to write.
"Caylee's life may have been short-lived on this earth, but her life will not have ended without a purpose. She will be sadly missed but never forgotten. Caylee Marie Anthony now has her angel wings and will be watching over so many other children".
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:54 PM
Has anyone from Camp Anthony ever contacted Kronk?
Camp Anthony?
*MoonRider*
02-08-2009, 01:57 PM
Wonder if she will go back to work. JMO
Cindy's new job is in her eulogy.
"Because of this outpouring of compassion, the family will continue to honor Caylee's memory by establishing the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation. The foundation's purpose will be to continue to generate awareness for missing children and to establish programs to assist in the well-being of those children in need of comfort and support during difficult and stressful times."
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,7648048.story
happygert
02-08-2009, 01:57 PM
Why does it seem even in the eulogy Cindy is getting her pokes in to people? Saying that about seeing Caylee on tv. Not mentioning TES.
Just seems some of it is revenge to a point. I may be wrong and I hope I am.
imo
ITA.. digs at every turn...
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 01:58 PM
I can think what I want about Cindy but this could not have been easy to write.
"Caylee's life may have been short-lived on this earth, but her life will not have ended without a purpose. She will be sadly missed but never forgotten. Caylee Marie Anthony now has her angel wings and will be watching over so many other children".
Of course not, Willow. NONE of it was easy to write.
Losing a grandchild is losing a grandchild is losing a grandchild. And by murder makes it ten times worse. And by murder by your DAUGHTER, the child's mother, makes it a thousand times worse. A million times worse.
She knows. And no matter what her faults, she has to live with her pain and sorrow. I'll never believe she didn't love Caylee with all her heart, though others have the opinion neither George nor Cindy cared at all about Caylee. That's just insane. IMO.
Beach~Tenant
02-08-2009, 01:59 PM
Hey for Rick to go on public message boards and "air the family's dirty laundry".....I'm not sure I'd ever even speak to him again.
The emails are one thing. I can get past that. NOT going on message boards though. No way.
Sad. Very sad.
I wasn't aware of the meassage board thing:sad::sad: shame on him then!!! Thats horrible.
happygert
02-08-2009, 02:00 PM
*snipped*
Where do you see she says Casey is innocent? :confused:
PLEASE DO NOT MESS with my posts...had trouble when people were bolding them before......
5boxersmom
02-08-2009, 02:02 PM
Doesn't Cindy have another brother? Wonder why he wasn't mentioned?
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 02:03 PM
PLEASE DO NOT MESS with my posts...had trouble when people were bolding them before......
That is the only thing I wanted to address. Sorry but as far as I know we are allowed (and encouraged) to snip when necessary to our response.
Can you answer the question?
Kathlb
02-08-2009, 02:04 PM
I think your right about the Milsteads seeking out the Anthony's. I believe they approached Josh in the Trenton case as well.
As for Dr. Kapoor and the ANS case, its about time.
moo
Good Morning everyone...or afternoon. ;-)
The ANS case about did me in. I couldn't believe that HS and co. got off. I was so discouraged and down from that. I pray that it comes to light if it is now however late. And I DON'T want anything like that to happen in this case. Casey is guilty and needs to go down with no delays, problems or question.
By the way, I have a question. I have Googled and can't find the correct answer that explains it properly. What exactly is Discoverable and what can be held back for trial. I have never understood that line between the two. In other words, with all of this discovery coming out due to our Sunshine law, what can the State legitimately hold back for trial so they don't give everything away to the defense before-hand?? Anyone know or can our onboard law people here explain it to me?
Neffy
02-08-2009, 02:05 PM
I went to Memorial service yesterday for a 15 year old boy. Very sad. His parents spoke at the service. They talked all about him. They shared stories about his life. Memories of little things that made people smile. He was the focus of their words.
Published in the bulletin was information on how to donate. That was not at all part of their words about their son.
There is a marked difference between what I saw yesterday and Cindy's focus.
My observation. IMO.
What do you mean? No teasers dropped by a mouth piece that it's a secret AND you'll need to "wait and see"? Hey was camping allowed?
Yea being snarky. I found the "segway" so far to be despicable. The only thing that can be said of a child this age is to show her families interaction with her. So this will totally be about the FAMILY and her.
Mamie
02-08-2009, 02:05 PM
According to Greta, Dec. 2008, the name of the book is "Double Double Trouble". It has a character named Zanny in it.
Let me correct my own post here, because you can't always trust what Greta and company have in print, and the true name of the book is "Double Trouble Squared" by Kathryn Lasky. It has a teacher in it named Zanny the Nanny, according to what is written on a book site. About the Starbuck family who has two sets of twins moving to London because of the father's new job. Something like that. And they take with them the mom's sister and the teacher, Zanny the Nanny. It sounds like it might be a book for older children and maybe it was a book of Casey's when she was younger or someone in their family but it doesn't sound like anything really that would have belonged to Caylee due to the age difference. JMO
CANDYKISSES
02-08-2009, 02:05 PM
Snipped for response.
As far as the joke.....well I remember when my own son was a toddler, he had a thing about refusing to nap. It drove me up a wall! I can imagine making a stupid joke like, "oh I'd like to shove some Nyquil down his throat to make him sleep." Of course I never did do that or even make a joke about it and I can assure you I love my son more than life itself.....
I guess in the absence of any hard evidence, I just won't go there. I think the chloroform info in large part got everyone speculating about Casey making a regular habit of drugging Casey.....I don't buy it but again, mainly because there is no real evidence of such.
WOW SAVANNAH, I hope you have simply inserted the piece I highlighted to bring more messageboard fodder into a tragic case, as I simply can't imagine hearing a parent say that, joking or not. JMO tho. :sad:
happygert
02-08-2009, 02:06 PM
Your right apparently normal and respectful are not words or actions that Cindy is capable of, even in the face of her grand daughters murder.
I meant to say tragic life, because I believe that it was tragic from beginning to end, and actually beyond.
ITA...IMO cindy seen much more abuse and neglect then anyone's letting on whether it was verbal or other wise.. You don't go from someone not wanting the baby to mom making you keep the baby and you not be resentful of the baby..To mother of the year.. then boom you just MURDER your 2 year old...imo no dont happen...
Dunlurken
02-08-2009, 02:06 PM
How easily that is forgotten.
And oh I've read posts on here that say if it weren't for Cindy, Caylee would be alive today.
:sad:
Dunnie poking my head in. Am I reading correctly that an advance copy of the eulogy has been published? JMO.
Neffy
02-08-2009, 02:09 PM
Camp Anthony?
Do you have a question that relates to my post?
cassidy
02-08-2009, 02:10 PM
Dunnie poking my head in. Am I reading correctly that an advance copy of the eulogy has been published? JMO.
It's being called a eulogy. but IMO it reads like an obit for the newspaper.
Neffy
02-08-2009, 02:10 PM
WOW SAVANNAH, I hope you have simply inserted the piece I highlighted to bring more messageboard fodder into a tragic case, as I simply can't imagine hearing a parent say that, joking or not. JMO tho. :sad:
Pretty unbelievable ay?
CANDYKISSES
02-08-2009, 02:10 PM
IMO Rick went on message boards to tell truths. Some of us like that about Rick. :smile:
Indeed some of us do like that about Rick, as we know there are enough posters who will look up anyone and anyway they perceive them related to the case or people involved. :wink: Come on, this is a crime messageboard, so you can expect things like that to happen. Some like it and some don't.
I was reading when Rick first started posting and he was simply trying to find out what the general public was thinking and had done a search. He was shocked to see some of the discussion on various forums, and when he responded, people started harassing him wanting him to prove who he was and ultimately he did.
It's just like Yuri posting, right or wrong much of this case was pulled from the web. We are in a transitional age of information technology and who's to say what will be conveniently out there after another ten years????
But right now, it's sometimes helpful and other times detrimental IMOO.
*MoonRider*
02-08-2009, 02:10 PM
Dunnie poking my head in. Am I reading correctly that an advance copy of the eulogy has been published? JMO.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,7648048.story
Dunlurken
02-08-2009, 02:10 PM
ITA...IMO cindy seen much more abuse and neglect then anyone's letting on whether it was verbal or other wise.. You don't go from someone not wanting the baby to mom making you keep the baby and you not be resentful of the baby..To mother of the year.. then boom you just MURDER your 2 year old...imo no dont happen...
Did you mean Casey? You post doesn't make sense. JMO.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 02:11 PM
IMO Rick went on message boards to tell truths. Some of us like that about Rick. :smile:
Maybe if it were you who was in the crossfire, you wouldn't? I still call it "airing dirty laundry" and absolutely despicable. Take a "for instance." What if I had a nasty argument with my spouse....what if my sister decided to go online, on a public message board, and talk about it? That's fair game? That's okay?
In my opinion, it should have been kept in the family. If he had problems with Cindy and Casey, it should have been kept to the emails. I will never understand why he chose to go on message boards about it. Never. Was that supposed to make things better? I don't understand his purpose? And that is regardless of whether he was right or wrong.
Sure you "like that" about Rick. He pandered to the voyeuristic in us. (GENERIC "you" and GENERIC "us".)
That's the bottom line. He disgusts me.
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 02:12 PM
Dunnie poking my head in. Am I reading correctly that an advance copy of the eulogy has been published? JMO.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,7648048.story
PuffDragon
02-08-2009, 02:12 PM
I think she had a most tragic death, of course. But conversely I think she had a very beautiful life. Pictures tell the story, in part. And videos. She looked cherished and absolutely happy and in love with her little life. It was so obvious......a joy-filled little girl who adored all her family. I think often of the pics in the pool with her and Cindy and George....the pic of her by the pool with her tiny blue crocs.....the photos of her making silly faces with sunglasses on. The photo of her at Easter with her basket in the backyard.....the photo of her running the vaccuum cleaner......and on and on.
She had a wonderful life of a beloved and adored little girl growing up in Florida with her family. Too bad her mother had to end it. IMO.
That's exactly how I see it too SS. Those pictures all look like the pictures in every relatively happy child's photo albums. Sure, there were probably bad days when Casey and Cindy went after each other. I'd like to think those were the times that George took Caylee outside and pulled her around the neighborhood in her wagon, or maybe took her out for ice cream. But basically she looked happy and loved. How can anybody think she was mistreated when you hear Cindy's proud little chuckle when she videos Caylee 'reading' her book, or the humor in her voice when she repeats Caylee's ' Papa, are you tired Papa?' I don't there there are boogeymen behind every bush, I think having Casey running the mood of the home made it disfunctional, but for Caylee to be as happy as she seems to have been, George and Cindy must have worked at keeping it as stable as they could. I don't think the world fell apart for them until the cracks appeared in June, and then they were totally ill-equipped to know how to deal with what happened afterwards.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 02:12 PM
Do you have a question that relates to my post?
How about this one: "namecalling is funny?"
Dunlurken
02-08-2009, 02:13 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,7648048.story
That sounds like an obit, not a eulogy. JMO.
aubrey04
02-08-2009, 02:13 PM
That is the only thing I wanted to address. Sorry but as far as I know we are allowed (and encouraged) to snip when necessary to our response.
Can you answer the question?
You snipped fine, SS. It is when people do not snip correctly and everyone afterwards refuses to correct the original quoters mistake - that things go awry on here.
CANDYKISSES
02-08-2009, 02:14 PM
Mallory wasn't mentioned either. :confused:
Some people are very discerning when it comes to obituaries and perhaps because they aren't actually married, Mallory is not perceived to be a survivor. My family probably wouldn't mention a fiance, but I'm sure many would.
In the Lauterbach case, they never mentioned Maria's nephew she posted about on her myspace. That was a strange one, but I guess Mary had her reasons, just like Cindy probably has hers, whatever they may be IMOO. :unsure:
*MoonRider*
02-08-2009, 02:14 PM
Maybe if it were you who was in the crossfire, you wouldn't? I still call it "airing dirty laundry" and absolutely despicable. Take a "for instance." What if I had a nasty argument with my spouse....what if my sister decided to go online, on a public message board, and talk about it? That's fair game? That's okay?
In my opinion, it should have been kept in the family. If he had problems with Cindy and Casey, it should have been kept to the emails. I will never understand why he chose to go on message boards about it. Never. Was that supposed to make things better? I don't understand his purpose? And that is regardless of whether he was right or wrong.
Sure you "like that" about Rick. He pandered to the voyeuristic in us. (GENERIC "you" and GENERIC "us".)
That's the bottom line. He disgusts me.
Wow, he told the truth and you have no disgust for Cindy:shrug:
Dunlurken
02-08-2009, 02:14 PM
That's exactly how I see it too SS. Those pictures all look like the pictures in every relatively happy child's photo albums. Sure, there were probably bad days when Casey and Cindy went after each other. I'd like to think those were the times that George took Caylee outside and pulled her around the neighborhood in her wagon, or maybe took her out for ice cream. But basically she looked happy and loved. How can anybody think she was mistreated when you hear Cindy's proud little chuckle when she videos Caylee 'reading' her book, or the humor in her voice when she repeats Caylee's ' Papa, are you tired Papa?' I don't there there are boogeymen behind every bush, I think having Casey running the mood of the home made it disfunctional, but for Caylee to be as happy as she seems to have been, George and Cindy must have worked at keeping it as stable as they could. I don't think the world fell apart for them until the cracks appeared in June, and then they were totally ill-equipped to know how to deal with what happened afterwards.Who could be prepared for such a living nightmare? JMO.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 02:14 PM
That's exactly how I see it too SS. Those pictures all look like the pictures in every relatively happy child's photo albums. Sure, there were probably bad days when Casey and Cindy went after each other. I'd like to think those were the times that George took Caylee outside and pulled her around the neighborhood in her wagon, or maybe took her out for ice cream. But basically she looked happy and loved. How can anybody think she was mistreated when you hear Cindy's proud little chuckle when she videos Caylee 'reading' her book, or the humor in her voice when she repeats Caylee's ' Papa, are you tired Papa?' I don't there there are boogeymen behind every bush, I think having Casey running the mood of the home made it disfunctional, but for Caylee to be as happy as she seems to have been, George and Cindy must have worked at keeping it as stable as they could. I don't think the world fell apart for them until the cracks appeared in June, and then they were totally ill-equipped to know how to deal with what happened afterwards.
We agree! :smile:
Pruddennce
02-08-2009, 02:15 PM
Hey for Rick to go on public message boards and "air the family's dirty laundry".....I'm not sure I'd ever even speak to him again.
The emails are one thing. I can get past that. NOT going on message boards though. No way.
Sad. Very sad.
but its ok for Cindy to 'air the supposed clean laundry' about her daughter? he had every right to set the record straight that Cindy was perpetuating a fantasy....Casey A was a liar and a thief and Cindy covered for her.
whats wrong with the truth?
and the truth was corroborated via their emails.
Cindy ADMITS she stole from her mother, but diminishes the act by attaching a monetary value, oh it was less than $50...as if that IS OK to steal as long as it isnt more than $50.
then, we have the doc dump with hundreds of dollars of forged checks by Casey from Cindy's account.
so its not ok to tell the truth?
I think its refreshing to hear the truth. If Cindy chose to go on air and talk about Caylee and Caylee only, there would be nothing to challenge by someone in her family. The family was MORTIFIED as to what she was doing publically: painting a beautiful portrait of Casey.
dont pick up the brush at all and there wont be any challenges.
the truth came out...so what if RIck talked about it? it was in the doc dumps.
IMO
best regards,
Pru
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 02:16 PM
You snipped fine, SS. It is when people do not snip correctly and everyone afterwards refuses to correct the original quoters mistake - that things go awry on here.
Thanks aubrey.
happygert
02-08-2009, 02:17 PM
That is the only thing I wanted to address. Sorry but as far as I know we are allowed (and encouraged) to snip when necessary to our response.
Can you answer the question?
read the statement...not aruging with you today..snip what ever you like just dont mess with by bolding my posts please....
Dunlurken
02-08-2009, 02:18 PM
That was definitely an obit. Sentinel needs to get their story straight. You don't list survivors anywhere else except an obit. And we count on the media to keep us informed? Geez Louise! JMO.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 02:18 PM
Wow, he told the truth and you have no disgust for Cindy:shrug:
I don't care WHAT he told.......for him to go on a public message board to do it was wrong. Period. :mad:
aubrey04
02-08-2009, 02:18 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,7648048.story
Okay, Cindy had me until she brought up the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation, which will be used for missing children.. Caylee was never missing - her mother knew where she was the entire time.. and it creeps me out that Casey is even mentioned in that statement.
Casey murdered Caylee - her name should not be in that statement/eulogy..whatever it is.
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 02:19 PM
read the statement...not aruging with you today..snip what ever you like just dont mess with my posts please....
I didn't mess with your posts. You said that Cindy said Casey was innocent in that statement or eulogy or whatever. WHERE???????
You can't answer that?
Sorry but I don't read anywhere in there where she says Casey is innocent. Nowhere.
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 02:20 PM
That was definitely an obit. Sentinel needs to get their story straight. You don't list survivors anywhere else except an obit. And we count on the media to keep us informed? Geez Louise! JMO.
eulogy, Was Cindy's word.
Dunlurken
02-08-2009, 02:20 PM
Okay, Cindy had me until she brought up the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation, which will be used for missing children.. Caylee was never missing - her mother knew where she was the entire time.. and it creeps me out that Casey is even mentioned in that statement.
Casey murdered Caylee - her name should not be in that statement/eulogy..whatever it is.
She was "missing" until her remains were found. What don't people understand about that? I think I need to go back to bed or something. :scared:
SavannahStar
02-08-2009, 02:22 PM
She was "missing" until her remains were found. What don't people understand about that? I think I need to go back to bed or something. :scared:
You're absolutely right about that dunnie. She was missing.
Dunlurken
02-08-2009, 02:23 PM
eulogy, Was Cindy's word.I don't see that anywhere in the link. I see a link to the Sentinel. It would appear that the obit is there, but I see nothing about an Eulogy, which is said at the service. It would almost appear as though the eulogy and obit are mixed in together. God help us all if we rely on this kind of carp. JMO.
eagleeer
02-08-2009, 02:24 PM
You may all think that I am a heartless old b@stard after this post but this is how I feel. I will not watch this debacle that Cynthia Anthony has put together to rehabilitate her tarnished image. It will not be about Caylee, it will be about Cindy. George will be standing there like the puppet he is with the “Dear in the headlights stare”, saying what the he!! am I doing here? Lee, well what can I say about an aide and abettor. It sickens me that they pick the largest church in Orlando to do this. What they couldn’t book the Superdome? Shameless Cynthia is going to make this about her and deservedly she will leave Casey in the dust.
While Caylee’s remains lie tossed in a cardboard box, this debacle is going to go on and everybody will say what a sad day it is. To he!! with that. Those that really care should stand outside that mortuary Tuesday morning at 10 a.m. and hold a private service with the Reverend Grund officiating. Then and only then can Caylee be laid to rest. After all now they are only bones and to be “Absent from the body is to be present with our Lord.”
May you rest in peace Caylee, you are with your “Real Father” now.
aubrey04
02-08-2009, 02:25 PM
She was "missing" until her remains were found. What don't people understand about that? I think I need to go back to bed or something. :scared:
:rolleyes:
She was not missing to Casey. It is bizarre that Casey's family is starting a foundation to find "missing children" when their daughter, Casey, knew where their granddaughter - Caylee - was the entire time she was supposedly "missing".
Neffy
02-08-2009, 02:25 PM
How about this one: "namecalling is funny?"
First off at times it is funny. It's my understanding that's what pm's are for. Second it didn't happen in my post.
Camp Anthony? George, Cindy, Lee, Conway, PI, Kidfinders anyone from the Anthony Camp. :rolleyes:
IM4Truth
02-08-2009, 02:25 PM
I recall that LE "took photos" of the medicine cabinet, Tracian. I remember that well because at the time I thought, gee why didn't they take the contents of the medicine cabinet, why photos? That was explained to me, though I don't remember why. I think LE was just checking things out.....nothing specific about any drug or Xanax in particular.
As far as the joke.....well I remember when my own son was a toddler, he had a thing about refusing to nap. It drove me up a wall! I can imagine making a stupid joke like, "oh I'd like to shove some Nyquil down his throat to make him sleep." Of course I never did do that or even make a joke about it and I can assure you I love my son more than life itself.....
I guess in the absence of any hard evidence, I just won't go there. I think the chloroform info in large part got everyone speculating about Casey making a regular habit of drugging Casey.....I don't buy it but again, mainly because there is no real evidence of such.
I just signed in for the first time today and saw this. I cannot believe that any parent would joke about giving a toddler Nyquil to make him sleep! Where is the joke in that? How is that funny? My ex overdosed our daughter one night with Dimetap. He thought it was tablespoon instead of teaspoon. She slept all night and all the next day and I couldn't figure out why. Finally I asked him how much he gave her. I was worried sick even though she was ok. Joking about drugging toddlers is serious. :no:
Dells
02-08-2009, 02:25 PM
I don't think there's a drug that rhymes with babysitter.....imo
Too funny!:laugh:
sunstar
02-08-2009, 02:25 PM
Cindy's new job is in her eulogy.
"Because of this outpouring of compassion, the family will continue to honor Caylee's memory by establishing the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation. The foundation's purpose will be to continue to generate awareness for missing children and to establish programs to assist in the well-being of those children in need of comfort and support during difficult and stressful times."
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-cayleeobit0809feb08,0,7648048.story
Good afternoon! :seeya: I didn't get far into the article before this got me ~
She is survived by her mother, Casey Marie Anthony;
Obviously they still don't believe Casey is responsible for Caylee's death. :flamemad:
cassidy
02-08-2009, 02:25 PM
eulogy, Was Cindy's word.
misnomer IMHO
WillowInFlight
02-08-2009, 02:25 PM
I don't see that anywhere in the link. I see a link to the Sentinel. It would appear that the obit is there, but I see nothing about an Eulogy, which is said at the service. It would almost appear as though the eulogy and obit are mixed in together. God help us all if we rely on this kind of carp. JMO.
Did you read the link?
"Cindy Anthony writes eulogy for Caylee Anthony, says Caylee 'will be watching over so many other children"
Dunlurken
02-08-2009, 02:25 PM
Yep.
Rick went public to express his outrage and tell the truth, yet he deserves criticism.
Cindy went public to be outrageous and lie, yet she deserves compassion and forgiveness.
Go figure.
When did he go public? Are we talking about Cindy's brother? That Rick? Or are there more?
JMO.
*MoonRider*
02-08-2009, 02:26 PM
You're absolutely right about that dunnie. She was missing.
Not missing at all ever. She was murdered and Casey knew exactly where she was at all times. jmo
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