Saturday, February 7

[Jester]

Another day closer to Caylee finally being memorialized. No plans yet for a proper burial or cremation, as the community event planning was deemed more important. Hopefully, after Tuesday, we will finally learn about a proper funeral for Caylee.

[ellegna]

Candles for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose::rose::rose:

Caylee's Guest Book

http://www.legacy.com/SPTimes/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=121581033

[ellegna]

Casey Anthony Case Similar to "The Fugitive"????

http://www.wesh.com/video/18659897/index.html

UNBELIEVABLE :scared:

Casey's defense maintain she's innocent BUT will not reveal who they believe killed Caylee until the trial??? Am I hearing correctly?
You would think if the defense had evidence another person is responsible, JB and LKB would be shouting from the roof tops?

JB wants a COV. Complains the media saturation will prevent finding an impartial jury. So what do these two do? Go on National TV and compare Casey to the Fugitive. IMO.....Either these two are bonkers or going on National TV to plant doubt is a brilliant defense maneuver.

[tootie]

For little Caylee. :rose:

Hope the defense doesn't get a change of venue like they are wanting.

[n/t]

Their defense will be to poke holes in forensics evidence. That's what LKB is very famous for. She can't use "suicide" as a defense here but she will try to prove anyone who had access to the A's house, Casey's car, Casey's belongings and Caylee may have done it. I'm not so sure they will point the finger at one person. It'll be many potential suspects including her own family.

Also, sloppy police work (blaming LE for rush to judgement) , contaminated evidence, unreliable witnesses..

It'll be nasty.

Good Morning!

[n/t]

For little Caylee. :rose:

Hope the defense doesn't get a change of venue like they are wanting.


I hope they do so they can't say she didn't get a fair trial! That's what Baez wants. Sadly, this memorial will be one more reason for him to show up in front of the judge and prove "thousands" of people in Orlando think his client is guilty.

I say grant them COV...and let's get on with the trial! I'm confident the evidence is overwhelming and it won't matter where the trial will be held.

[n/t]

This is totally untrue!! Both sides talking in the media?? Have we seen anyone from the prosecution talking to the media??? I wish Mike Brooks would've called her on that!

MEG STRICKLER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It`s debatable if they`re going to be able to get an impartial jury, at this point. It`s been tried across the entire court of public opinion all over America. So the change of venue is not going to do anything from Orlando to anywhere else in Florida. I mean, both sides are talking in the media.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/06/ng.01.html

[crymeariver2006]

I hope they do so they can't say she didn't get a fair trial! That's what Baez wants. Sadly, this memorial will be one more reason for him to show up in front of the judge and prove "thousands" of people in Orlando think his client is guilty.

I say grant them COV...and let's get on with the trial! I'm confident the evidence is overwhelming and it won't matter where the trial will be held.

But a lot of the people that will go to the memorial aren't from Orlando. They'll be from other cities in Florida too. Including Jose's "secret, undisclosed venue location".

How will that work in using the memorial attendance as a reason for a change of venue? The numbers in attendance at a memorial doesn't prove anything. IMO though.

He'll get the COV, no doubt. He doesn't need to give the memorial numbers as an excuse. But it would be just like him to resort to the "theatrics" of photos of the attendees of a memorial for a murdered little girl.


All IMO

[spageddy]

Good Morning All!

Anybody here planning on attending the memorial?

[8BellesFan]

But a lot of the people that will go to the memorial aren't from Orlando. They'll be from other cities in Florida too. Including Jose's "secret, undisclosed venue location".

How will that work in using the memorial attendance as a reason for a change of venue? The numbers in attendance at a memorial doesn't prove anything. IMO though.

He'll get the COV, no doubt. He doesn't need to give the memorial numbers as an excuse. But it would be just like him to resort to the "theatrics" of photos of the attendees of a memorial for a murdered little girl.


All IMO

and the drama of somebody getting tossed would be icing on his COV cake

IMO

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning everyone! I just have a feeling that there may not be as many people attending this memorial as the anthonys think there will.

b&b better be careful what they wish for, the trial may be moved to a county more conservative then Orange.

At any rate, it will be up to the Judge and once closer to trial, as ADA Linda Drane Burdick stated, a more accurate assessment can be made as to whether public sentiment would deny the defendant a fair trial in Orlando.

Because b&b have taken their dog and pony show on the road, it may just turn out that more people will be of the opinion that they aren't sure who committed this murder and want to see the evidence at trial. Thus defeating any motion for a change of venue. imo.

[8BellesFan]

Good Morning All!

Anybody here planning on attending the memorial?

what memorial. all I see planned is a public opinion poll for 5000

[PuffDragon]

Good Morning All!

Anybody here planning on attending the memorial?

I'm planning on not even watching it.:thumbdown:

[n/t]

Leonard Padilla is right. This is a Cindy memorial not a Caylee memorial. :sad:

[callmetree]

For little Caylee. :rose:

Hope the defense doesn't get a change of venue like they are wanting.

i really don't care if they get a change. IMO it won't matter at all. it appears the majority of the people feel casey is guilty. i just pray the jury selected will be level headed and finds casey guilty .

[AMS]

Leonard Padilla is right. This is a Cindy memorial not a Caylee memorial. :sad:

ITA n/t. This was from the NG show last night.

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, that`s a good question. That`s an awful lot of people. First of all, I`d like to say this is Cindy`s day. This has nothing do with Caylee, it has do with Cindy being the queen of this big occasion, which I think is rather a sham and absolutely horrible.

Also from the show:

BROOKS: Cindy is making the list. And who`s going to be there enforcing it? Have you heard that?

PADILLA: Cindy herself said that she would stand at the front door and keep me out.


IMO

[8BellesFan]

I'm planning on not even watching it.:thumbdown:


I'm going to watch it. I wish I were the kind of person who could say I won't but I'm not. It will probably end up with me in a foul mood, but I won't be able to stay away from it. I have no idea what I am after in it either.

Just being honest.

[AMS]

I admit that I did chuckle when Mike Brooks said this on NG last night.

BROOKS: Yes, and you know, I think if you`re going to spend money, and you want to donate some, you want to play a role in this, folks, send your money to a worthy cause. Like the Center for National -- National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Help find young kids instead of sending it to her so she can sit in jail and eat her candy and -- I`ll tell you, if she keeps it going what she does, she`s going to be filling that suit jacket that she had on there the other day.


IMO

[~jomomma~]

This is totally untrue!! Both sides talking in the media?? Have we seen anyone from the prosecution talking to the media??? I wish Mike Brooks would've called her on that!

MEG STRICKLER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It`s debatable if they`re going to be able to get an impartial jury, at this point. It`s been tried across the entire court of public opinion all over America. So the change of venue is not going to do anything from Orlando to anywhere else in Florida. I mean, both sides are talking in the media.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/06/ng.01.html

omg! i'm just sick of all of it!!!! let's get the trial underway and get it over with! :mad:

i'm so sick of seeing baez's face on tv.

i don't think there will be anything NEAR 5,000 people show up for this memorial. i hope not anyways. no offense to poor little Caylee but the way it's being done is just not right imo.

[daHawg]

ITA n/t. This was from the NG show last night.

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, that`s a good question. That`s an awful lot of people. First of all, I`d like to say this is Cindy`s day. This has nothing do with Caylee, it has do with Cindy being the queen of this big occasion, which I think is rather a sham and absolutely horrible.

Also from the show:

BROOKS: Cindy is making the list. And who`s going to be there enforcing it? Have you heard that?

PADILLA: Cindy herself said that she would stand at the front door and keep me out.


IMO
And I hope Cindy heard Padilla loud and clear last night!

PADILLA: And I -- she doesn`t -- she doesn`t have to, believe me. I`m not going

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/06/ng.01.html

[n/t]

ITA n/t. This was from the NG show last night.

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, that`s a good question. That`s an awful lot of people. First of all, I`d like to say this is Cindy`s day. This has nothing do with Caylee, it has do with Cindy being the queen of this big occasion, which I think is rather a sham and absolutely horrible.

Also from the show:

BROOKS: Cindy is making the list. And who`s going to be there enforcing it? Have you heard that?

PADILLA: Cindy herself said that she would stand at the front door and keep me out.


IMO

I think it's a disgrace. I hope people realize what this is really all about and don't attend. They can have their own memorial for Caylee. Maybe Leonard will organize one where EVERYONE can attend!

[cassidy]

For little Caylee. :rose:

Hope the defense doesn't get a change of venue like they are wanting.

Don't they have to file for a COV? And does Jose get to pick the venue?

[n/t]

omg! i'm just sick of all of it!!!! let's get the trial underway and get it over with! :mad:

i'm so sick of seeing baez's face on tv.

i don't think there will be anything NEAR 5,000 people show up for this memorial. i hope not anyways. no offense to poor little Caylee but the way it's being done is just not right imo.

I have a feeling we'll be seeing alot more of Baez and LKB on television proclaiming how innocent their client the suspected baby killer is. Some fake nanny did it and she's on the loose. Oh brother.

[desmom]

Mystery spokesman in Casey Anthony case baffles legal experts: Will he help or hurt?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey0709feb07,0,7214847.story

Memorial plans underway, new motions filed
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/020609Caylee_Memorial

[n/t]

Don't they have to file for a COV? And does Jose get to pick the venue?

This is how it was explained on NG last night. Link up thread.

SAX: Well, what actually happens is both -- the defense would bring the motion in this case that they could not get -- their client would not be able to get fair trial in Orange County, Florida, and then make a motion for the trial to go somewhere else. And ultimately, it would be the judge`s decision. And my guess is that because of convenience of witnesses, because of evidence and law enforcement and all the people who live in Orange County, Florida, the prosecution`s going to come out and want to keep the case there, in their home court, where their evidence and their offices are accessible to them.

[PuffDragon]

i really don't care if they get a change. IMO it won't matter at all. it appears the majority of the people feel casey is guilty. i just pray the jury selected will be level headed and finds casey guilty .

I'm just afraid there will be one juror who feels that the rest of the jury is so convinced of Casey's guilt that no matter how he really feels he will take the other side and be the devil's advocate on every single bit of evidence just to 'make it fair', to the point where nobody will be able to make any sense of either side's case and they won't be able to come to a decision.

[PuffDragon]

ITA n/t. This was from the NG show last night.

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, that`s a good question. That`s an awful lot of people. First of all, I`d like to say this is Cindy`s day. This has nothing do with Caylee, it has do with Cindy being the queen of this big occasion, which I think is rather a sham and absolutely horrible.

Also from the show:

BROOKS: Cindy is making the list. And who`s going to be there enforcing it? Have you heard that?

PADILLA: Cindy herself said that she would stand at the front door and keep me out.
IMO

*Bolding mine

Yes, I heard him say that and I wondered..... Cindy is speaking privately to LP? Did she send him a personal message? I didn't hear her make any statement that he, specifically, couldn't go, that he was the first one on the list, or that she would personally keep him out. :confused:
Oh, i guess that was his Friday Night Statement.

[cassidy]

This is how it was explained on NG last night. Link up thread.

SAX: Well, what actually happens is both -- the defense would bring the motion in this case that they could not get -- their client would not be able to get fair trial in Orange County, Florida, and then make a motion for the trial to go somewhere else. And ultimately, it would be the judge`s decision. And my guess is that because of convenience of witnesses, because of evidence and law enforcement and all the people who live in Orange County, Florida, the prosecution`s going to come out and want to keep the case there, in their home court, where their evidence and their offices are accessible to them.

Thanks for the explaination. But shouldn't Jose file a motion before he whines about not being able to get one?

[desmom]

ITA n/t. This was from the NG show last night.

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, that`s a good question. That`s an awful lot of people. First of all, I`d like to say this is Cindy`s day. This has nothing do with Caylee, it has do with Cindy being the queen of this big occasion, which I think is rather a sham and absolutely horrible.

Also from the show:

BROOKS: Cindy is making the list. And who`s going to be there enforcing it? Have you heard that?

PADILLA: Cindy herself said that she would stand at the front door and keep me out.


IMO


I agree with Pat Brown.

We have heard about the flowers, the music, the seating, security, certain people will not be allowed to attend........ This is the Cindy Dog and Pony Show.

jmo

[n/t]

Mystery spokesman in Casey Anthony case baffles legal experts: Will he help or hurt?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey0709feb07,0,7214847.story

Memorial plans underway, new motions filed
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/020609Caylee_Memorial

Funny how he won't comment on "Todd Black". I hope it comes back to bite him in the arse! He's so quick to blame everyone and point fingers at the media for not allowing his client the presumption of innocence and he's using a crooked , a convicted felon as his spokesperson. What will he say when this is brought up in court? He didn't know? Gimme a break! :angry:

[PuffDragon]

I'm going to watch it. I wish I were the kind of person who could say I won't but I'm not. It will probably end up with me in a foul mood, but I won't be able to stay away from it. I have no idea what I am after in it either.

Just being honest.

I salute your honesty Fan. It's a personal decision after all. You aren't the only one that is going to watch. If I cared I might watch, but this is all about Cindy and how much the world loves her family. I'm not interested.

[ellegna]

I'm planning on not even watching it.:thumbdown:

That makes 2 of us :thumbdown:

[cassidy]

*Bolding mine

Yes, I heard him say that and I wondered..... Cindy is speaking privately to LP? Did she send him a personal message? I didn't hear her make any statement that he, specifically, couldn't go, that he was the first one on the list, or that she would personally keep him out. :confused:
Oh, i guess that was his Friday Night Statement.

I wouldn't put it past Cindy to be in touch with him and I wouldn't put it past Lenny to make it all up. It's anyone's guess.

IMO

[n/t]

Thanks for the explaination. But shouldn't Jose file a motion before he whines about not being able to get one?

Oh I'm sure he will. He's just been too busy. You know. With all these talkshows and stuff and looking for the one arm nanny .. :rolleyes:

[callmetree]

I'm just afraid there will be one juror who feels that the rest of the jury is so convinced of Casey's guilt that no matter how he really feels he will take the other side and be the devil's advocate on every single bit of evidence just to 'make it fair', to the point where nobody will be able to make any sense of either side's case and they won't be able to come to a decision.

this scares me also puff. i guess all we can do is hope for the best.

[PuffDragon]

I admit that I did chuckle when Mike Brooks said this on NG last night.

BROOKS: Yes, and you know, I think if you`re going to spend money, and you want to donate some, you want to play a role in this, folks, send your money to a worthy cause. Like the Center for National -- National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Help find young kids instead of sending it to her so she can sit in jail and eat her candy and -- I`ll tell you, if she keeps it going what she does, she`s going to be filling that suit jacket that she had on there the other day.
IMO

Mike is one of those who are of the same mind as many of us and he says the things publicly that we are saying privately.:thumbup:

[n/t]

I salute your honesty Fan. It's a personal decision after all. You aren't the only one that is going to watch. If I cared I might watch, but this is all about Cindy and how much the world loves her family. I'm not interested.


Even if you won't watch, it'll be shown over and over again on these talk shows. There's no escaping it unless you move to Japan. LOL

[desmom]

I have a feeling we'll be seeing alot more of Baez and LKB on television proclaiming how innocent their client the suspected baby killer is. Some fake nanny did it and she's on the loose. Oh brother.

Now we know why JB fought the State's request for a gag order. Will JB's words come back and bite him in the end when it comes to the COV?

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/gag-order-denied/

Defense attorney Jose Baez said the state has leaked much more information. But Ashton detailed several national television appearances Baez made that he said were designed to influence jurors.

Ashton said that to let it continue would “make it virtually impossible for us to find an impartial jury in the state of Florida, much less Orlando.” “There’s a lot of hot air, but not a whole lot of law,” Baez said of Ashton’s presentation.

[cassidy]

Oh I'm sure he will. He's just been too busy. You know. With all these talkshows and stuff and looking for the one arm nanny .. :rolleyes:


Silly me. Of course Jose has his priorities!

[ellegna]

I admit that I did chuckle when Mike Brooks said this on NG last night.

BROOKS: Yes, and you know, I think if you`re going to spend money, and you want to donate some, you want to play a role in this, folks, send your money to a worthy cause. Like the Center for National -- National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Help find young kids instead of sending it to her so she can sit in jail and eat her candy and -- I`ll tell you, if she keeps it going what she does, she`s going to be filling that suit jacket that she had on there the other day.


IMO

That's why I like Mike Brooks. He's brutally honest :laugh:

[PuffDragon]

Don't they have to file for a COV? And does Jose get to pick the venue?

He does have to file, he wanted to do it at the hearing and got shouted down by the pros and the judge. He will make take it under advisement when it's closer to the trial date. IMO he wanted to know where it was going to be so that he could target that place with his smoke and mirrors production.

He can make suggestions, but from what I understand from more knowledgeable posters here the judge will make the decision.

[n/t]

Mike is one of those who are of the same mind as many of us and he says the things publicly that we are saying privately.:thumbup:

I love him! He's a regular guest on HLN with Mike Galanos. He says it like it is.

[AMS]

Even if you won't watch, it'll be shown over and over again on these talk shows. There's no escaping it unless you move to Japan. LOL

Don't say that n/t. Next we'll be hearing: BOMBSHELL - Change of Venue is TOKYO!!

IMO

[n/t]

Now we know why JB fought the State's request for a gag order. Will JB's words come back and bite him in the end when it comes to the COV?

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/gag-order-denied/

Defense attorney Jose Baez said the state has leaked much more information. But Ashton detailed several national television appearances Baez made that he said were designed to influence jurors.

Ashton said that to let it continue would “make it virtually impossible for us to find an impartial jury in the state of Florida, much less Orlando.” “There’s a lot of hot air, but not a whole lot of law,” Baez said of Ashton’s presentation.

Another smack down? :laugh:

[msgatorslayer]

This is how it was explained on NG last night. Link up thread.

SAX: Well, what actually happens is both -- the defense would bring the motion in this case that they could not get -- their client would not be able to get fair trial in Orange County, Florida, and then make a motion for the trial to go somewhere else. And ultimately, it would be the judge`s decision. And my guess is that because of convenience of witnesses, because of evidence and law enforcement and all the people who live in Orange County, Florida, the prosecution`s going to come out and want to keep the case there, in their home court, where their evidence and their offices are accessible to them.

What they can do, which was initially done in the first COV for John Couey, is to pick the jurors from one area and then bring them back to Orange County for the trial.

And yes, it is up to the Judge. Baez talks outta his azz alot. But I forgive him, cause he's inept and doesn't know that it is not "HIS secret location" or that he's not in charge of a COV.

G'morning, everyone!!

Oh, and he's not going to be able to keep the location as secret as he'd like. Just say, hypothetically, the Judge decides to keep the spot under wraps for a while. Within, oh, 2 months prior to the trial, those people called jurors will need to be found. Out goes a massive amount of juror summons from one County. Bingo, someone will figure out what its for.

And then that area will be flooded with the Casey Anthony murder trial information in the news. Just like Couey. People in Miami didn't get bombarded with Couey news but just as soon as it was named as the COV location and the Judge tossed his confession, THAT was all over the news.

JMO

[Regina.Lampert]

Thanks for the explaination. But shouldn't Jose file a motion before he whines about not being able to get one?

This was brought up at the last hearing. IIRC, Judge Strickland mentioned to baez that he had the "papers on the COV" but he had to file a formal motion before any action could be taken. Then, Linda Drane Burdick reminded the Judge that the trial was a good way off (possibly 2010) and that it would be prudent to take an assessment closer to trial because things could change. The Judge agreed with this. baez then whined that he still wanted the COV and the Judge told him to file the motion then.

As of this date no motion has been filed.

[PuffDragon]

This is how it was explained on NG last night. Link up thread.

SAX: Well, what actually happens is both -- the defense would bring the motion in this case that they could not get -- their client would not be able to get fair trial in Orange County, Florida, and then make a motion for the trial to go somewhere else. And ultimately, it would be the judge`s decision. And my guess is that because of convenience of witnesses, because of evidence and law enforcement and all the people who live in Orange County, Florida, the prosecution`s going to come out and want to keep the case there, in their home court, where their evidence and their offices are accessible to them.

I didn't think that answered the question that was asked. I thought Mike was looking for the answer to, "Who gets to make the final decision?" But he didn't follow up and just let it drop.

[msgatorslayer]

This was brought up at the last hearing. IIRC, Judge Strickland mentioned to baez that he had the "papers on the COV" but he had to file a formal motion before any action could be taken. Then, Linda Drane Burdick reminded the Judge that the trial was a good way off (possibly 2010) and that it would be prudent to take an assessment closer to trial because things could change. The Judge agreed with this. baez then whined that he still wanted the COV and the Judge told him to file the motion then.

As of this date no motion has been filed.

Those COV papers aren't going to file themselves, Jose.:laugh:

[SavannahStar]

Good Morning All!

Anybody here planning on attending the memorial?

Nope. I'm in FL but have no plans to attend....nor did I participate in any searches, nor will I attend the trial. I do have a busy personal life, bad enough I spend too much time on boards about the case. :biggrin:

I do plan to watch the memorial on livestream. I'll be at work though and it might be a little difficult. I'll have one tab open to it.

[n/t]

Mystery spokesman in Casey Anthony case baffles legal experts: Will he help or hurt?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey0709feb07,0,7214847.story

Memorial plans underway, new motions filed
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/020609Caylee_Memorial

I won't be one of those people "as far away as Canada" showing up.

"Kasen claims that from the day the lawsuit was filed, both Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez and her attorneys at the Morgan and Morgan law firm, knew that their Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez is not the same woman Casey Anthony told investigators stole her child."


So why won't your client answer the question, Mr. Kazen?:thumbdown:

[PuffDragon]

Oh I'm sure he will. He's just been too busy. You know. With all these talkshows and stuff and looking for the one arm nanny .. :rolleyes:

I think the one-armed nanny is going to stick. I love it!

[SavannahStar]

i really don't care if they get a change. IMO it won't matter at all. it appears the majority of the people feel casey is guilty. i just pray the jury selected will be level headed and finds casey guilty .

Morning, tree. I have no doubt he will get the COV, as I believe he should. But you are right, it won't make a difference. I would hope jurors picked have not already made up their minds.....I trust their honesty. But the evidence is too overwhelming against her. I have no doubt she will be found guilty, none at all.

[n/t]

I didn't think that answered the question that was asked. I thought Mike was looking for the answer to, "Who gets to make the final decision?" But he didn't follow up and just let it drop.


I thought it did. "And ultimately, it would be the judge`s decision."

[n/t]

What they can do, which was initially done in the first COV for John Couey, is to pick the jurors from one area and then bring them back to Orange County for the trial.
And yes, it is up to the Judge. Baez talks outta his azz alot. But I forgive him, cause he's inept and doesn't know that it is not "HIS secret location" or that he's not in charge of a COV.

G'morning, everyone!!

Oh, and he's not going to be able to keep the location as secret as he'd like. Just say, hypothetically, the Judge decides to keep the spot under wraps for a while. Within, oh, 2 months prior to the trial, those people called jurors will need to be found. Out goes a massive amount of juror summons from one County. Bingo, someone will figure out what its for.

And then that area will be flooded with the Casey Anthony murder trial information in the news. Just like Couey. People in Miami didn't get bombarded with Couey news but just as soon as it was named as the COV location and the Judge tossed his confession, THAT was all over the news.

JMO

*bolding mine

I have a feeling that's what will happen in this case.

[PuffDragon]

Even if you won't watch, it'll be shown over and over again on these talk shows. There's no escaping it unless you move to Japan. LOL

I know, it's true. But if it's just a photo op my mind won't be involved.

[trich]

omg! i'm just sick of all of it!!!! let's get the trial underway and get it over with! :mad:

i'm so sick of seeing baez's face on tv.

i don't think there will be anything NEAR 5,000 people show up for this memorial. i hope not anyways. no offense to poor little Caylee but the way it's being done is just not right imo.


IMO alot of people are going to show up just for the horror of it just like many will watch and hope something outrageous happens.
Watching for the nutcases to make a spectical out of themselves.
I hope it does not happen but lets face it the Anthonys do not do anything even in the realm of normality.:sad:

[callmetree]

Morning, tree. I have no doubt he will get the COV, as I believe he should. But you are right, it won't make a difference. I would hope jurors picked have not already made up their minds.....I trust their honesty. But the evidence is too overwhelming against her. I have no doubt she will be found guilty, none at all.

morning SS, i hope you are right.

[n/t]

Those COV papers aren't going to file themselves, Jose.:laugh:

.....:laugh:

[PuffDragon]

Don't say that n/t. Next we'll be hearing: BOMBSHELL - Change of Venue is TOKYO!!

IMO

I know someone who is currently working in China. I should ask if the case is being covered there...........

[msgatorslayer]

Morning, tree. I have no doubt he will get the COV, as I believe he should. But you are right, it won't make a difference. I would hope jurors picked have not already made up their minds.....I trust their honesty. But the evidence is too overwhelming against her. I have no doubt she will be found guilty, none at all.

I think that Jose would like to have the trial in Tallahasse. The boot camp death plays into his need to have jury members who have a thing for authority.

[Regina.Lampert]

Those COV papers aren't going to file themselves, Jose.:laugh:

I seriously wonder if he knows how to file them, I believe he is THAT incompetent.

I'm not so sure that once filed the motion will be granted. It all depends on whether the Judge believes that the jury pool is so polluted that they are unable to put aside their assumptions and swear that they have not come to a conclusion and will only go by the evidence revealed at trial.

In this day and age when people are so busy with their lives, trying to survive in the current economic climate, we may be surprised to learn that there are a great many people who don't have a clue about the details of this crime. Time will tell.

I would love to see jurors bused in from another area, rather then making everyone in Orlando move. To me that would be more cost effective.

[8BellesFan]

I know, it's true. But if it's just a photo op my mind won't be involved.

it's definitely a photo op, and the chance to give some lucky photo still pool member and some lucky video pool member (highest bidder) a chance to get the never before seen pics of Cindy Anthony shutting up for 5 seconds. if she makes one misstep it will be caught on tape.

[msgatorslayer]

*bolding mine

I have a feeling that's what will happen in this case.

It's the best solution, IMO.

More cost effective to transport 12 jurors into Orlando than it is to move the Judge's courtroom, and all his people, to another area.

[PuffDragon]

This was brought up at the last hearing. IIRC, Judge Strickland mentioned to baez that he had the "papers on the COV" but he had to file a formal motion before any action could be taken. Then, Linda Drane Burdick reminded the Judge that the trial was a good way off (possibly 2010) and that it would be prudent to take an assessment closer to trial because things could change. The Judge agreed with this. baez then whined that he still wanted the COV and the Judge told him to file the motion then.

As of this date no motion has been filed.

The way Dear Jose was talking it sounded like he was prepared to file the motion right then and there. Hmmmm, it must have been just so much hot air.... oh I know, it was a trial balloon...........:biggrin:

[Pebbles]

I will not be watching the memorial, since I do not believe this memorial will be about Caylee. I feel this is all about seeking sympathy for the A's. Cindy will be in control and also be performing for the media and public. Another poster stated this case has become a reality show put on by the A's and Casey's defense team. I get so upset hearing about Casey's rights, what about Caylee's rights, didn't or doesn't she have any?



I also will not be watching because I am sure the media will be keeping a record of how many people watched the live stream. The more that watch or attend the memorial, JB and Cindy will use those numbers to "help" Casey's defense, showing how many people across the country are aware of the case and Casey can not get a fair trial.

A memorial for this little girl will not mean anything if she does not receive the justice she deserves.

To bad Caylee didn't have the defense team that Casey has when her mother murdered her. People sending money to Casey so she can eat well in prison, the amount of money being spent on experts so Casey can walk free, etc. All this money could be put to better use by protecting innocent little children that are being murdered or abused. Where are people's priorities?

[8BellesFan]

IMO alot of people are going to show up just for the horror of it just like many will watch and hope something outrageous happens.
Watching for the nutcases to make a spectical out of themselves.
I hope it does not happen but lets face it the Anthonys do not do anything even in the realm of normality.:sad:

my watching it comes from anger. no more no less. what I get out of it is where I draw a blank. it won't make me less angry.

[n/t]

IMO alot of people are going to show up just for the horror of it just like many will watch and hope something outrageous happens.
Watching for the nutcases to make a spectical out of themselves.
I hope it does not happen but lets face it the Anthonys do not do anything even in the realm of normality.:sad:

There was one caller on HLN who is from NC and she said she was a searcher for TES and one of the searchers looking for Caylee. She said she needed this as "closure" for her and that's why she was attending.

But you're right that there will also be those who will make a spectacle of themselves just for the attention. I hope that doesn't happen but who knows.....

I pray it's peaceful. I really do. But I have a bad feeling about all of it especially if Casey is shown in photos or any mention of her.

[Regina.Lampert]

it's definitely a photo op, and the chance to give some lucky photo still pool member and some lucky video pool member (highest bidder) a chance to get the never before seen pics of Cindy Anthony shutting up for 5 seconds. if she makes one misstep it will be caught on tape.

Since this bunch seem to favor People magazine, I won't be surprised to see a full photo spread with accompanying interview with cynthia and george, for the right price of course.

I would not miss watching this publicity stunt for the world. I have no doubt that cynthia will make the huge PR blunder of promoting the murderer and recapping what a loving mother she was, at a service that people are attending to honor the short life of this victim.

Depending on how angry the attendees become, this could get very interesting, imo.

PEBBLES, Headline News channel is carrying it live.

[Regina.Lampert]

The way Dear Jose was talking it sounded like he was prepared to file the motion right then and there. Hmmmm, it must have been just so much hot air.... oh I know, it was a trial balloon...........:biggrin:

LOL, a trial lead balloon! :tongue:

[Texas48]

Their defense will be to poke holes in forensics evidence. That's what LKB is very famous for. She can't use "suicide" as a defense here but she will try to prove anyone who had access to the A's house, Casey's car, Casey's belongings and Caylee may have done it. I'm not so sure they will point the finger at one person. It'll be many potential suspects including her own family.

Also, sloppy police work (blaming LE for rush to judgement) , contaminated evidence, unreliable witnesses..

It'll be nasty.

Good Morning! ITA n/t...You have described LKB perfectly. I knew her "way back when" and she has a way w/words and placing "blame" somewhere other than the accused. Of course, this is her job and I try and respect that...to a point...When she begins her spill of sloppy police work and blaming others then I want to "switch" her OFF. She is playing for that one person on the jury. jmo

[PuffDragon]

I thought it did. "And ultimately, it would be the judge`s decision."

I know, but that sentence was buried in the middle of the answer and I didn't think it really addressed how much importance the judge would put on Baez's list, which I thought was the aim of the question. i guess I just wanted Mike to clarify whether the judge would choose from Baez's list or could it be anywhere in the state regardless of what he had asked for.

[n/t]

This was brought up at the last hearing. IIRC, Judge Strickland mentioned to baez that he had the "papers on the COV" but he had to file a formal motion before any action could be taken. Then, Linda Drane Burdick reminded the Judge that the trial was a good way off (possibly 2010) and that it would be prudent to take an assessment closer to trial because things could change. The Judge agreed with this. baez then whined that he still wanted the COV and the Judge told him to file the motion then.

As of this date no motion has been filed.


What papers did he give Judge Strickland? A handwritten note using jailhouse stationary? OMG! :lol:

[8BellesFan]

There was one caller on HLN who is from NC and she said she was a searcher for TES and one of the searchers looking for Caylee. She said she needed this as "closure" for her and that's why she was attending.

But you're right that there will also be those who will make a spectacle of themselves just for the attention. I hope that doesn't happen but who knows.....

I pray it's peaceful. I really do. But I have a bad feeling about all of it especially if Casey is shown in photos or any mention of her.


she will be shown and mentioned. this is IMO not a memorial. I think we memorialize Caylee every day on this board. The tears and emotions that spill forth moment to moment keep her in our hearts where she is safe. to confuse a no camping allowed spectacle as respect is a mistake Cindy will have to live with.

MOO and stuff

[msgatorslayer]

Since this bunch seem to favor People magazine, I won't be surprised to see a full photo spread with accompanying interview with cynthia and george, for the right price of course.

I would not miss watching this publicity stunt for the world. I have no doubt that cynthia will make the huge PR blunder of promoting the murderer and recapping what a loving mother she was, at a service that people are attending to honor the short life of this victim.

Depending on how angry the attendees become, this could get very interesting, imo.

An interview with Cindy would be golden at this point. It's the money shot that everyone wants. And I agree that People mag would pay for it. JMO

We haven't heard a peep from her since Caylee's remains were found. And the media is just dying to ask her some questions.

[msgatorslayer]

What papers did he give Judge Strickland? A handwritten note using jailhouse stationary? OMG! :lol:

Written in code! :lol:

[AMS]

There was one caller on HLN who is from NC and she said she was a searcher for TES and one of the searchers looking for Caylee. She said she needed this as "closure" for her and that's why she was attending.

But you're right that there will also be those who will make a spectacle of themselves just for the attention. I hope that doesn't happen but who knows.....

I pray it's peaceful. I really do. But I have a bad feeling about all of it especially if Casey is shown in photos or any mention of her.


Bolding is mine. This is my concern as well. If they try to read a letter from Casey or have the focus on saving Casey, I worry that the crowd will respond in some way. Makes me very very nervous.

IMO.

[PuffDragon]

it's definitely a photo op, and the chance to give some lucky photo still pool member and some lucky video pool member (highest bidder) a chance to get the never before seen pics of Cindy Anthony shutting up for 5 seconds. if she makes one misstep it will be caught on tape.

And that will give Conway a chance to come out in public and snarl that the Anthonys can't win, that even when she tries to do this magnanimous thing for the public all she gets is a snark about how her hair looks.........

[8BellesFan]

Written in code! :lol:


who had the pen?

[Texas48]

I hope they do so they can't say she didn't get a fair trial! That's what Baez wants. Sadly, this memorial will be one more reason for him to show up in front of the judge and prove "thousands" of people in Orlando think his client is guilty.

I say grant them COV...and let's get on with the trial! I'm confident the evidence is overwhelming and it won't matter where the trial will be held. IMO the Judge is way smarter that JB..The judge is well aware this case is high profile and everyone in the USA/World has been made aware of the Murder of Caylee..by her mother..not reported missing for 31 days. On and on..JB does not have to SHOW the judge anything on this case or the "thousands" that MAY show up for the memorial. The judge IMO will make the correct ruling on COV. jmo

[n/t]

Since this bunch seem to favor People magazine, I won't be surprised to see a full photo spread with accompanying interview with cynthia and george, for the right price of course.

I would not miss watching this publicity stunt for the world. I have no doubt that cynthia will make the huge PR blunder of promoting the murderer and recapping what a loving mother she was, at a service that people are attending to honor the short life of this victim.

Depending on how angry the attendees become, this could get very interesting, imo.

PEBBLES, Headline News channel is carrying it live.

Maybe Baez will get advance warning this time so he won't "discover" it after the rest of the world has already read it, seen it and talked about it for days. People Magazine should send him a personal copy. :biggrin:

[8BellesFan]

And that will give Conway a chance to come out in public and snarl that the Anthonys can't win, that even when she tries to do this magnanimous thing for the public all she gets is a snark about how her hair looks.........


she's not doing it. some mysterious person or persons are paying for it. all Cindy has done is bark orders of who is welcome and who is not and try to pick photos that radiate motherhood, kittens, rainbows etc. Conway better watch what he says, IMO.

[marshmallow]

I salute your honesty Fan. It's a personal decision after all. You aren't the only one that is going to watch. If I cared I might watch, but this is all about Cindy and how much the world loves her family. I'm not interested.

I won't watch but I will read everyone's comments. Like my folks, who live in Florida, I'm going to have a moment of silence and since it's on a Tuesday I 'll be playing with my Grand daughter during that time fram.

[PuffDragon]

LOL, a trial lead balloon! :tongue:

Must have been, he floated it but it didn't fly. :wink:

[Regina.Lampert]

What papers did he give Judge Strickland? A handwritten note using jailhouse stationary? OMG! :lol:

God only knows, but it was another classic embarrassing moment where baez had to be schooled.

[desmom]

Their defense will be to poke holes in forensics evidence. That's what LKB is very famous for. She can't use "suicide" as a defense here but she will try to prove anyone who had access to the A's house, Casey's car, Casey's belongings and Caylee may have done it. I'm not so sure they will point the finger at one person. It'll be many potential suspects including her own family.

Also, sloppy police work (blaming LE for rush to judgement) , contaminated evidence, unreliable witnesses..

It'll be nasty.

Good Morning!

I am curious how LKB is going to explain Casey's behavior during the 31 days.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/072908caseypics/indexGallery.htm

http://www.wftv.com/video/17664021/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/video/17660819/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/video/17660840/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/video/17658434/index.html

[n/t]

I won't watch but I will read everyone's comments. Like my folks, who live in Florida, I'm going to have a moment of silence and since it's on a Tuesday I 'll be playing with my Grand daughter during that time fram.


Beautiful thought for those who won't attend or watch. Say a prayer, light a candle and remember CAYLEE. I'll always have that photo of her laying on the couch in my mind. She looked like an angel. And her voice...I'll remember her singing you are my sunshine. :rose:

[Texas48]

Good Morning All!

Anybody here planning on attending the memorial? Nope..not me. If Lenny is not welcome than I am not going. lol..on a serious comment..I believe many want a memorial service ..as has been stated..so they can have "closure". Not real sure what that word means when it comes to the murder of a baby but this is the word many have chosen so be it. It is only MO but this "memorial" has gotten out of hand. Metal Detectors..Cameras..People being told they CANNOT ATTEND. not welcome to a public memorial service. Has me much confused and am NOT agreeing with the entire "circus" but to each his own. The Anthonys do have the right to handle this anyway they want to. People have the freedom to attend or not attend. I think the memorial service that Rev. Grund held was very nice and was enough for me. I said my goodbye many moths ago. Now if Lenny and Tim Miller asked me to join them and stand OUTSIDE with them..I might consider that. jmo

[8BellesFan]

Beautiful thought for those who won't attend or watch. Say a prayer, light a candle and remember CAYLEE. I'll always have that photo of her laying on the couch in my mind. She looked like an angel. And her voice...I'll remember her singing you are my sunshine. :rose:

we don't let the video play anymore. makes my husband upset.

[IM4Truth]

He does have to file, he wanted to do it at the hearing and got shouted down by the pros and the judge. He will make take it under advisement when it's closer to the trial date. IMO he wanted to know where it was going to be so that he could target that place with his smoke and mirrors production.

He can make suggestions, but from what I understand from more knowledgeable posters here the judge will make the decision.

No, JB does not "have" to file for COV. If he does, it will be closer to the time of the trial. Only the judge can make the final decision for a COV. There was a lot of talk last night about jurors may need to visit the scene where the remains were found. There may be other places they need to visit. This trial is going to be extremely costly. Even bringing in jurors from other counties would be costly because of the length of the trial.

I also agree that it is the defense team, mostly JB who keeps appearing on national TV. The only time I have seen the prosection is in hearings and they appear to be very professional, as opposed to the defense team. IMO they have as much of a chance of having a fair trial in Orlando as in any other county in FL. I would suspect people in Orlando are just sick of seeing JB's face everyday. He is the one "tainting" the prospective jurors!

Also, I hope the prosecution jumps on the Todd Black scheme. With Cabot's past felony and his ties to the entertainment business it all casts a very dark shadow over the defense. Doesn't matter if JB paid him or not, JB has allowed him to speak out for his team and Casey. My question is about Cabot, with his extortion attempt, isn't is clear where his ties are in the entertainment business? Does porn seem to jump out here!

Can't wait for comments now, have to get to work but will check back in later this evening. Have a good day! I hope the memorial will be held with respect and dignity, but I suspect it will also be a time for Cindy to make Casey look very innocent.

Oh BTW, did anyone notice how JB and LKB referred to Casey's innocence on the Today Show? They never said or even referred to another killer. They never said they think someone else did it. They just said they believe in her innocence!

I wish I could stay but I have to go, I'm already an hour past getting logged on to work. Lots of things to discuss today and shouldn't turn into who is right and who is wrong, I just hope you all will be nice to each other.

I will watch the memorial, you don't have too. Doesn't mean I am right or wrong. I'm sorry that some people are not allowed in. The only ones not allowed in should be the ones who can be identified as protesters. Lenny put up $50,000 bail and got their daughter out. He kept the search going. I hope they do allow the Grunds to attend.

Oh my, I rarely post such long posts! Gotta go, really! :tonguewag:

BTW, feel free to snip away to keep from taking up so much space if you are commenting on anything I said.

[n/t]

I am curious how LKB is going to explain Casey's behavior during the 31 days.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/072908caseypics/indexGallery.htm

http://www.wftv.com/video/17664021/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/video/17660819/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/video/17660840/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/video/17658434/index.html

She'll probably say Casey trusted the nanny and knew Caylee was "safe". We've heard Casey say it over and over in the jailhouse videos. She always said Caylee was safe and close to home. There was no reason for Casey to worry about it until her mom questioned her about Caylee....that's when she started to panic and that's when she started to doubt Zanny.

Yah sounds far fetched but it may fly with one juror.

[8BellesFan]

But at one point, didn't she say she was afraid and the reason she couldn't say anything about where Caylee was was that Caylee and her family would be harmed? I think for every excuse JB offers up, the prosecution will counter with conflicting stories--all courtesy of Casey.


but George said they knew who had Caylee and they were watching them.

[desmom]

But at one point, didn't she say she was afraid and the reason she couldn't say anything about where Caylee was was that Caylee and her family would be harmed? I think for every excuse JB offers up, the prosecution will counter with conflicting stories--all courtesy of Casey.

I agree. The club pics, the shopping videos, check cashing video, testimony from friends about a manicure and new tattoo and her demeanor during the 31 days will not show a mother concerned about the whereabouts of her 2 year old.

jmo

[bchand]

Beautiful thought for those who won't attend or watch. Say a prayer, light a candle and remember CAYLEE. I'll always have that photo of her laying on the couch in my mind. She looked like an angel. And her voice...I'll remember her singing you are my sunshine. :rose:

I can understand both sides of the quandry - to watch or not to watch the memorial (or attend).

I personally wouldn't want the Anthonys to see a large attendance as support of their daughter in any way, shape or form BUT

I know myself - if I saw a very low turnout, I'd feel bad for Caylee.

It will definitely be a personal decision for all of us.

[desmom]

but George said they knew who had Caylee and they were watching them.

and Caylee was moved to 9 different locations and he had been to a lot of those places.....

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=georgeanthony_101620081107&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20Speaks

[n/t]

But at one point, didn't she say she was afraid and the reason she couldn't say anything about where Caylee was was that Caylee and her family would be harmed? I think for every excuse JB offers up, the prosecution will counter with conflicting stories--all courtesy of Casey.

Yes of course...there are tons of conflicting stories. They'll try to explain those away too. But in the end....the prosecutors will prove that nobody but Casey Anthony is the murderer and justice will prevail!

There is no nanny. The fingerprints and DNA will point to ONE person.

[callmetree]

I am curious how LKB is going to explain Casey's behavior during the 31 days.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/072908caseypics/indexGallery.htm

http://www.wftv.com/video/17664021/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/video/17660819/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/video/17660840/index.html

http://www.wftv.com/video/17658434/index.html

the nanny did it ??

[IM4Truth]

but George said they knew who had Caylee and they were watching them.

and he will have to identify those people in court.

[Texas48]

ITA n/t. This was from the NG show last night.

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, that`s a good question. That`s an awful lot of people. First of all, I`d like to say this is Cindy`s day. This has nothing do with Caylee, it has do with Cindy being the queen of this big occasion, which I think is rather a sham and absolutely horrible.

Also from the show:

BROOKS: Cindy is making the list. And who`s going to be there enforcing it? Have you heard that?

PADILLA: Cindy herself said that she would stand at the front door and keep me out.


IMO That I would pay to see..Lenny is his bigh black hat chewing on his toothpick and Cindy in KC's famous blue dress at the front door fussing and fighting. What a moment.

[marshmallow]

Since this bunch seem to favor People magazine, I won't be surprised to see a full photo spread with accompanying interview with cynthia and george, for the right price of course.

I would not miss watching this publicity stunt for the world. I have no doubt that cynthia will make the huge PR blunder of promoting the murderer and recapping what a loving mother she was, at a service that people are attending to honor the short life of this victim.

Depending on how angry the attendees become, this could get very interesting, imo.

PEBBLES, Headline News channel is carrying it live.




I hate being so jaded but I really think there will be official photographers, approved by Cindy. That would explain the no cell phones, no cameras policy. I'm also sure that any official photos sold will be contigent on Cindy's approval of the photo. No bad photos will every see the light of day.

[IM4Truth]

But at one point, didn't she say she was afraid and the reason she couldn't say anything about where Caylee was was that Caylee and her family would be harmed? I think for every excuse JB offers up, the prosecution will counter with conflicting stories--all courtesy of Casey.

She didn't appear to be afraid. If she was afraid she would have been hiding out at home.

[IM4Truth]

I agree. The club pics, the shopping videos, check cashing video, testimony from friends about a manicure and new tattoo and her demeanor during the 31 days will not show a mother concerned about the whereabouts of her 2 year old.

jmo

It was all because she was terrified about what might happen to Caylee. NOT

[Texas48]

omg! i'm just sick of all of it!!!! let's get the trial underway and get it over with! :mad:

i'm so sick of seeing baez's face on tv.

i don't think there will be anything NEAR 5,000 people show up for this memorial. i hope not anyways. no offense to poor little Caylee but the way it's being done is just not right imo.
I hope no one takes offense to your post jomomma. We (most of us) know what you mean. This memorial is NOT for Caylee. jmo

[AMS]

I hate being so jaded but I really think there will be official photographers, approved by Cindy. That would explain the no cell phones, no cameras policy. I'm also sure that any official photos sold will be contigent on Cindy's approval of the photo. No bad photos will every see the light of day.

I think it was on Thursday that someone posted they heard on JVM that the info being handed out by the church to the media had a section on how to get an interview with Cindy and George. Does anyone remember the details?

IMO

[IM4Truth]

I hate being so jaded but I really think there will be official photographers, approved by Cindy. That would explain the no cell phones, no cameras policy. I'm also sure that any official photos sold will be contigent on Cindy's approval of the photo. No bad photos will every see the light of day.

Uh, they are streaming it on live TV, FGS!!!

[8BellesFan]

and he will have to identify those people in court.

exactly. they're busted 50 Danno

[marshmallow]

but George said they knew who had Caylee and they were watching them.

and doesn't the defense have a photo(s) of the Nanny, Caylee, and Casey? or was that another nontruth.

[IM4Truth]

I think it was on Thursday that someone posted they heard on JVM that the info being handed out by the church to the media had a section on how to get an interview with Cindy and George. Does anyone remember the details?

IMO

IIRC Brad Conway appeared later and said that was not true.

[msgatorslayer]

the nanny did it ??

The defense also needs to come up with a smoke and mirrors story as to why Casey lied about working at Universal.

Which could be something along the lines of her working for someone doing illegal things and something went wrong.

[marshmallow]

Uh, they are streaming it on live TV, FGS!!!

yes but still photos will be taken.

[Texas48]

And I hope Cindy heard Padilla loud and clear last night!

PADILLA: And I -- she doesn`t -- she doesn`t have to, believe me. I`m not going

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/06/ng.01.html I am more than certain that Cindy watched and heard every word. There is, IMO, not one show/interview/newspaper article that Cindy has not saved. Has to have it ALL for the Lifetime Movie. jmo

[n/t]

I can understand both sides of the quandry - to watch or not to watch the memorial (or attend).

I personally wouldn't want the Anthonys to see a large attendance as support of their daughter in any way, shape or form BUT

I know myself - if I saw a very low turnout, I'd feel bad for Caylee.

It will definitely be a personal decision for all of us.

I understand exactly what you're saying bchand. I'm conflicted too. Sad for Caylee but at the same time, I realize that this isn't about Caylee at all and the more we hear about this memorial, the more we're seeing proof that Cindy is in control. It should be about Caylee and only Caylee. No disinvited list should even exist. Church doors should be open for anyone. Jesus didn't say you can come into my house to pray but you can't. It's wrong and I don't agree with what the Anthonys are doing. The church should've made that clear but as with everything else in this case....who knows. Maybe they're looking for publicity too. Sad.

[8BellesFan]

Uh, they are streaming it on live TV, FGS!!!

Conway said there would be a still photography pool. which is lawyer for dollars

[IM4Truth]

THAT should be interesting. I wonder if he will (or can) plead the fifth.

All these lies are so weak. imo

That is where the immunity comes in. The Anthonys have admitted they made some "conflicting" statements.

[msgatorslayer]

She didn't appear to be afraid. If she was afraid she would have been hiding out at home.

A 'neutral place" :tongueside:

Which her parents home was not. They'd ask the hard questions. Like, where is Caylee, lol.

[msgatorslayer]

I don't think she will be at the front door fussing and fighting. I think she and George will walk in together, George helping to support her as she makes her way to their seats. I think they will be very quiet. imo

And drinking lots of aqua!:wink:

[marshmallow]

A 'neutral place" :tongueside:

Which her parents home was not. They'd ask the hard questions. Like, where is Caylee, lol.



her boyfriend's bed...a neutral place.. who knew?

[IM4Truth]

Conway said there would be a still photography pool. which is lawyer for dollars

WHAT????? I missed that. Do you have a link? Not doubting you one bit, but I want to see that one! (I'm still trying to get off here to get my work done)

[8BellesFan]

and doesn't the defense have a photo(s) of the Nanny, Caylee, and Casey? or was that another nontruth.

of course they do!! unfortunately the person resembles an orb....

I'm lying, I dunno....but I'd bet the farm if they do, it's a still of Myrna Loy in Belles On Their Toes c.1952

[Texas48]

I think it's a disgrace. I hope people realize what this is really all about and don't attend. They can have their own memorial for Caylee. Maybe Leonard will organize one where EVERYONE can attend! That would put Cindy OVER THE TOP. lol .. What would keep ANYONE from standing across the stree from the Church and taking pictures/videos? This is what Lenny should do. Stand across from the Church on public property leaning against a light post just watching. That in its self would get Cindy going. jmo

[8BellesFan]

WHAT????? I missed that. Do you have a link? Not doubting you one bit, but I want to see that one! (I'm still trying to get off here to get my work done)

it was on the pc yesterday. I'll see what I can find.


http://rochesterpopulist.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/brad-conway-press-conference-about-caylee-anthonys-memorial-service/


one minute 42 seconds or so into part one

[marshmallow]

I don't think she will be at the front door fussing and fighting. I think she and George will walk in together, George helping to support her as she makes her way to their seats. I think they will be very quiet. imo



I'm worried about George. Whether he really had a breakdown or not, he's on the edge and I worry that he's not mentally stable. This might be a push to send him over and it seems (to me) like his mental state is nonimportant compaired to this publicity stunt. I hope he's seeing competant doctorswho will monitor him through the next few weeks.

[Pat]

If a jury is selected that consists of people who aren't really familiar with the case, IMO the biggest hurdle for the defense is why Casey never reported Caylee missing. You know the prosecution will make it very clear Caylee could still be 'missing' to this day had Cindy not called 911.

How many jurors will be able to suspend belief and accept Casey's story of 'looking' in bars, danger to her family, decomp smell in the car? Add to that, Caylee's remains would still be undiscovered had the meter reader not found them. Casey could have started talking the moment LE got involved and she didn't. How can Baez explain away the fact LE could have provided protection for her family the minute they found out...none of it is logical.

LBK has talked about forensic evidence, but the realities of what Casey did and did not do are so clear cut, I honestly don't see jurors throwing common sense out the window and believing someone else is responsible for this murder.

If it is going to be another 10 months before this case goes to trial, Baez may sink his own client. He hasn't helped her so far.

I'm looking forward to the next document dump.

[IM4Truth]

That would put Cindy OVER THE TOP. lol .. What would keep ANYONE from standing across the stree from the Church and taking pictures/videos? This is what Lenny should do. Stand across from the Church on public property leaning against a light post just watching. That in its self would get Cindy going. jmo

Remember, LP and Richard Grund already had the first memorial for Caylee.

[AMS]

IIRC Brad Conway appeared later and said that was not true.

Ah - had missed that. Thanks.

[mdibella]

i really don't care if they get a change. IMO it won't matter at all. it appears the majority of the people feel casey is guilty. i just pray the jury selected will be level headed and finds casey guilty .


I pray the jury will be able to set aside all of this pre-trial furor and look at the evidence fairly.

Hey, don't get me wrong, I am also inclined to think she's guilty, but I also know we haven't seen all of the evidence yet, nor will we until she has her day in court. And she is entitled to that day in court with a jury that will examine the evidence and THEN decide if she's guilty.

[Pat]

IIRC Brad Conway appeared later and said that was not true.

I don't think we can trust what Conway says to be accurate. He said Cindy did not provide the clothes to Casey for the hearing, nor was she responsible for the bracelet. Turns out she did and was.

[WillowInFlight]

I'm worried about George. Whether he really had a breakdown or not, he's on the edge and I worry that he's not mentally stable. This might be a push to send him over and it seems (to me) like his mental state is nonimportant compaired to this publicity stunt. I hope he's seeing competant doctorswho will monitor him through the next few weeks.

OTOH, this maybe be a way of starting to heal for him.

[n/t]

Does anyone here think Caylee was already laid to rest? Her remains were already cremated or buried? I have no proof and it's against everything that's been said in the media but I can't shake the feeling I have that this was already done. Maybe before George's alleged suicide attempt?

I don't understand having a public memorial before a funeral? Has anyone heard or experienced something like this before? Usually it's the other way around. Funeral and then memorial? Right?

[IM4Truth]

Forget it IM4Truth. You, like the rest of us, are hooked on this case and on this discussion board! :biggrin:

I am. but unfortunately, I recently was dumped another entire unit to supervise and there are reports that I can get done at home easier than trying to do them in the office. So, I just listened to BC say there WILL be professional still photos, I'm sure they will be available to the highest bidder. I truly wish that NO ONE would show any interest in them or even pay "23 cents" for one! Now, I'm leaving, I'll be back as soon as I can get some work done.

[mdibella]

Casey doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell. But she must have a trial. I hope the trial is well publicized, giving more lessons to society that you cannot get away with murdering children. Yes, some people's baser instincts will still surface and they will kill children, but the rest of society has to say they are not going to simply walk away from their crimes.

I don't think she does either. There is something badly skewed in this woman's head that would allow her to go out partying when her child was 'missing'. There is no way the defense team will be able to spin this as anything other than despicable.

Watching her on the videos, talking to her parents, letting them continue to hang onto hope when she KNEW that baby was dead, it just literally makes my jaw grind until my teeth hurt.

[desmom]

A 'neutral place" :tongueside:

Which her parents home was not. They'd ask the hard questions. Like, where is Caylee, lol.

Next time I am shop at Target, I will tell DH I had to go to a neutral place.

IIRC, the evening Caylee "disappeared", Casey's neutral place was TonE's and Blockbuster Video. Then it must have changed to Fusians, area restaurants, Amy's, TonE's jeep.....

jmo

[n/t]

Next time I am shop at Target, I will tell DH I had to go to a neutral place.

IIRC, Casey's neutral place was TonE's and Blockbuster Video.

jmo

Better not tell him you're going to TonE's. :laugh:

[crymeariver2006]

LOL, a trial lead balloon! :tongue:

One where JB's been inhaling the helium again.

:biggrin:

[PuffDragon]

she's not doing it. some mysterious person or persons are paying for it. all Cindy has done is bark orders of who is welcome and who is not and try to pick photos that radiate motherhood, kittens, rainbows etc. Conway better watch what he says, IMO.

There sure are a lot of mysterious people coming out of the woodwork willing to pay for all these things. I wish some of them would come out of the woodwork and offer to pay for my last oil delivery........

[Destini]

I just hope the prosecution will be able to present their case in a clear and concise manner. Can you imagine what it will be like for the jurors if they have to sort through everything we've had to sort through? And I'm sure there's still much we don't even know, from both sides.

I'm so afraid the jurors will get to the end of the case & be scratching their heads, confused & not be able to keep the facts straight. Hopefully they will be better organized in their brains than me, but it does worry me.

[SavannahStar]

I just hope the prosecution will be able to present their case in a clear and concise manner. Can you imagine what it will be like for the jurors if they have to sort through everything we've had to sort through? And I'm sure there's still much we don't even know, from both sides.

I'm so afraid the jurors will get to the end of the case & be scratching their heads, confused & not be able to keep the facts straight. Hopefully they will be better organized in their brains than me, but it does worry me.


I think we get a lot of extraneous stuff though. And some stuff that may not even be admissable at trial. They will hear the most important facts with no "fluff." Granted, that will still be A LOT of facts, but they won't have to sort through much of the non-important info that we know about. IMO.

[crymeariver2006]

Does anyone here think Caylee was already laid to rest? Her remains were already cremated or buried? I have no proof and it's against everything that's been said in the media but I can't shake the feeling I have that this was already done. Maybe before George's alleged suicide attempt?

I don't understand having a public memorial before a funeral? Has anyone heard or experienced something like this before? Usually it's the other way around. Funeral and then memorial? Right?

I don't think she's already been laid to rest.

Casey's still in charge of those remains and the only way George and Cindy will ever get them is to pry them from Casey's cold, dead hands.

It's her last power struggle with Cindy and she's going to take FULL advantage of it, being supported in full by her inept attorney and his minions.

All IMO.

[PuffDragon]

I won't watch but I will read everyone's comments. Like my folks, who live in Florida, I'm going to have a moment of silence and since it's on a Tuesday I 'll be playing with my Grand daughter during that time fram.

I will also read comments. I didn't make my own connection to Tuesday, that's the day I have my year-old grandniece to play with so I wouldn't have been watching it anyway, not when there's better things on TV like Curious George and Sesame Street :smile: .

[SavannahStar]

Does anyone here think Caylee was already laid to rest? Her remains were already cremated or buried? I have no proof and it's against everything that's been said in the media but I can't shake the feeling I have that this was already done. Maybe before George's alleged suicide attempt?

I don't understand having a public memorial before a funeral? Has anyone heard or experienced something like this before? Usually it's the other way around. Funeral and then memorial? Right?


Yes, at my church, I am familiar with having a memorial before a funeral.....or burial. This is sometimes the case with a person who has lived here in FL for many years....a memorial will be held at our church, and the remains then sent "up north" to a family plot for burial, or for cremation. Many seniors have moved down here and die down here but still have their family ties elsewhere. So it's not at all unheard of, in my experience.

[Destini]

I think we get a lot of extraneous stuff though. And some stuff that may not even be admissable at trial. They will hear the most important facts with no "fluff." Granted, that will still be A LOT of facts, but they won't have to sort through much of the non-important info that we know about. IMO.

I hope that you're right, and I hope they are able to pick a jury that does not follow this case like we do. I'm sure there are plenty of people that don't.

I'm just glad I'm not in Florida & there's no chance I would be called. I am on information overload right now.

[kOOkie1]

I don't think she's already been laid to rest.

Casey's still in charge of those remains and the only way George and Cindy will ever get them is to pry them from Casey's cold, dead hands.

It's her last power struggle with Cindy and she's going to take FULL advantage of it, being supported in full by her inept attorney and his minions.

All IMO.

I so agree with you Cryme. I mean remember Casey told George she has not been the "boss" since she was arrested on a Flippin "whim"..She is milking this last time to be "the boss of everything". It's such a sick game she enjoys playing-

(jmo)

[Pat]

-snip-
I'm so afraid the jurors will get to the end of the case & be scratching their heads, confused & not be able to keep the facts straight. .


IMO, this is really a very straight-forward, simple case. The bad behavior of the Anthonys and Baez is 'white noise'. Lots of coverage, lots of discussion, but none of it changes the basic facts.

When jurors get into the courtroom, a lot of what we've seen played out on TV (Cindy histronics, George's episode, Baez/LKB/Lee playing to the crowds) won't be present. I doubt much of what Cindy/George/Lee have done will even come up...so much of it is buried in 'personalities' and behavior and makes it seem more important than it is.

I believe the prosecution has a strong case. If a fingerprint is found on that duct tape, and it matches Casey, this is over. There is no excuse in the world Baez will be able to dream up that will explain this away.

[PuffDragon]

No, JB does not "have" to file for COV.

<snipped to address


I'm confused. Doesn't JB have to file if he wants one? Surely the judge wouldn't change the CoV if no one asks for it?

[SavannahStar]

I hope that you're right, and I hope they are able to pick a jury that does not follow this case like we do. I'm sure there are plenty of people that don't.

I'm just glad I'm not in Florida & there's no chance I would be called. I am on information overload right now.

Well I'm in FL. If I were called I would honestly tell them I could not be unbiased...that I have an opinion already.

What I really pray for is that all prospective jurors would be truthful during voir dire. Hope I spelled that right..I think that is the juror questioning process?

And I HOPE one of the questions is "do you participate on any message boards about this crime?" :sneaky: I think most of us have made up our mind as to her guilt. I've not seen anyone who has said they think she is not guilty. I have seen one or two who occasionally play "devil's advocate" and seem to consider both sides.

For the vast majority of us, her guilt is obvious. Nothing wrong with that at all. But I don't think we could serve on the jury in all good conscience.

IMO of course.

[SavannahStar]

IMO, this is really a very straight-forward, simple case. The bad behavior of the Anthonys and Baez is 'white noise'. Lots of coverage, lots of discussion, but none of it changes the basic facts.

When jurors get into the courtroom, a lot of what we've seen played out on TV (Cindy histronics, George's episode, Baez/LKB/Lee playing to the crowds) won't be present. I doubt much of what Cindy/George/Lee have done will even come up...so much of it is buried in 'personalities' and behavior and makes it seem more important than it is.

I believe the prosecution has a strong case. If a fingerprint is found on that duct tape, and it matches Casey, this is over. There is no excuse in the world Baez will be able to dream up that will explain this away.

Perfectly well said and I agree 100%. You nailed it.

[PuffDragon]

I don't think a low turnout would be bad for anyone in this case except JB and all the Anthonys, especially the perp. I am praying for a low turnout.

ITA. It will not reflect on Caylee. From the tone of this board, most people are against the memorial because it's all about The As and nothing about Caylee.

[nc1948]

I'm planning on not even watching it.:thumbdown:

I am with you. I will not watch a circus with the middle ring dedicated to support for Casey.

[SavannahStar]

ITA. It will not reflect on Caylee. From the tone of this board, most people are against the memorial because it's all about The As and nothing about Caylee.

I have to see the memorial before I decide it is nothing about Caylee. I really doubt that will be the case.

[PuffDragon]

I hate being so jaded but I really think there will be official photographers, approved by Cindy. That would explain the no cell phones, no cameras policy. I'm also sure that any official photos sold will be contigent on Cindy's approval of the photo. No bad photos will every see the light of day.

I don't know... I can't believe that Cindy would let this affair go on without have an official photographer to capture every moment of the event. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that she has already sold the rights. That would explain the ban on anyone taking private photos.

People magazine would be the most likely, I think, but didn't Cindy have a real issue (NPI) with People when that first spread came out?

[Regina.Lampert]

I think it was on Thursday that someone posted they heard on JVM that the info being handed out by the church to the media had a section on how to get an interview with Cindy and George. Does anyone remember the details?

IMO

Hiya AMS. I posted the link to the transcript yesterday. It was Wendy Murphy who mentioned that. The instructions were for the media to contact the anthony's attorney for interviews of cynthia and george.

[101Spots]

I am with you. I will not watch a circus with the middle ring dedicated to support for Casey.

I, too, will not watch. I will tune in briefly to see the lay of the land and get a visual of the setting so I better understand when others discuss it. Two hours? No way. More like 2 seconds.

[Regina.Lampert]

her boyfriend's bed...a neutral place.. who knew?

Don't forget Blockbuster must be neutral too.

[Regina.Lampert]

Does anyone here think Caylee was already laid to rest? Her remains were already cremated or buried? I have no proof and it's against everything that's been said in the media but I can't shake the feeling I have that this was already done. Maybe before George's alleged suicide attempt?

I don't understand having a public memorial before a funeral? Has anyone heard or experienced something like this before? Usually it's the other way around. Funeral and then memorial? Right?


I firmly believe casey anthony thru her rep, baez is maintaining complete control of Caylee's remains. I think this odious creature allowing mommy and daddy to have a funeral and bury Caylee depends on just how much cynthia shoves casey anthony is innocent down the throats of the memorial attendees and those watching on other media. imo.

[della_17_99]

I was perusing over at the CNN.com/crime site and saw this... I don't know if it's been posted already or not. If so, my bad. Anyways, here is the link:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/07/caylee.memorial/index.html

And a bit of the article, (snipped for space):

Caylee's remains won't be at memorial service

From John Couwels
CNN

ORLANDO, Florida (CNN) -- Caylee Anthony's remains have been released but won't be at Tuesday's public memorial service for the slain toddler, an attorney for the family said.
The remains had been kept for forensic tests since they were found in early December in woods about a mile from the home of the slain child's grandparents in Orlando, Florida.

Caylee had been missing for about six months before the discovery.

[toadii]

IMO, this is really a very straight-forward, simple case. The bad behavior of the Anthonys and Baez is 'white noise'. Lots of coverage, lots of discussion, but none of it changes the basic facts.

When jurors get into the courtroom, a lot of what we've seen played out on TV (Cindy histronics, George's episode, Baez/LKB/Lee playing to the crowds) won't be present. I doubt much of what Cindy/George/Lee have done will even come up...so much of it is buried in 'personalities' and behavior and makes it seem more important than it is.

I believe the prosecution has a strong case. If a fingerprint is found on that duct tape, and it matches Casey, this is over. There is no excuse in the world Baez will be able to dream up that will explain this away.

I cannot wait to see how B&B explain to a jury how an invisible one arm nanny applied the duct tape with the heart sticker. Maybe this is where the two dead crawling squirrels come into play.

[PuffDragon]

her boyfriend's bed...a neutral place.. who knew?

Where her boyfriend said there was no difference in her demeanor. So even saying the defense might manage to spin a story about Casey being afraid to go home and face her parents, how will they get around the fact that TonE didn't see any signs of anxiety, nothing to make him say, "Gee, Case, you seem a little down tonight. Is anything wrong?" Seems like if she needed some help to 'find' Caylee, TonE was right there to confide in and she didn't give him any reason to question her emotional state. How can they explain that one away???

Oh wait, I know. She didn't have time to spend every minute crying, which was what she wanted to do, because she had to think about ways to help find her daughter. Yeh, that's it.

Does anyone think the way Casey talked about wanting to find Casey and get her home in those jailhouse tapes with C&G is very strangely worded? It doesn't sound like as much like a mother trying to reassure her parents as it does the words of a mother's lawyer reassuring her. Listen to the exact wording and then take it out of Casey's mouth and put it all into JB's.

[PuffDragon]

That would put Cindy OVER THE TOP. lol .. What would keep ANYONE from standing across the stree from the Church and taking pictures/videos? This is what Lenny should do. Stand across from the Church on public property leaning against a light post just watching. That in its self would get Cindy going. jmo

Now THAT I would watch!!! Not the Cindy part, so much, but the Lenny part.

[PuffDragon]

I'm worried about George. Whether he really had a breakdown or not, he's on the edge and I worry that he's not mentally stable. This might be a push to send him over and it seems (to me) like his mental state is nonimportant compaired to this publicity stunt. I hope he's seeing competant doctorswho will monitor him through the next few weeks.

Maybe at the last minute Conway will make an appearance to state that George will not attend because his doctors have strongly advised him to stay away.

[blehchaos]

Long time lurker - was not going to register and post - However, I can NOT take it anymore! I hate everything about this case. The actors/esses involved make me sick! Every time a "BOMBSHELL" or "Breaking Report" or "PC" happens I can feel another nerve snap - soon I will have no nerves!

Caylee was beautiful, Caylee was an angel, Caylee was INNOCENT! Everyone on here and other places as well as the State of Florida are her dream team. Justice will prevail - even IF there is a hung jury that OC's circus team will dry up and disappear and she will eventually face the music. I believe Caylee is wrapped in our lord's arms and safe and because of that Caylee will have justice.

All the other distractions do not matter, they just do not matter.

Oh yes and HI :seeya: everyone! I am not normally an angry person :)

[nc1948]

I think it was on Thursday that someone posted they heard on JVM that the info being handed out by the church to the media had a section on how to get an interview with Cindy and George. Does anyone remember the details?IMO

I remember that, and was just looking for the link. Cannot find it, but it was typical Cindy antics. I really believe Cindy will read or have read a letter from Casey about how she loves Caylee and misses her. This circus will be all in support of Casey and little about Caylee.

I am really praying this will be a true memorial to Caylee, but have a sick feeling in pit of my stomach that it will be all about Casey and her love of her daughter.

Another link I cannot find was Conway said the body/remains had been released by defense, but the Anthonys had not had time to take care of funeral as they were taking caring of giving the masses closer first. HUH

[gaelicpeas]

Long time lurker - was not going to register and post - However, I can NOT take it anymore! I hate everything about this case. The actors/esses involved make me sick! Every time a "BOMBSHELL" or "Breaking Report" or "PC" happens I can feel another nerve snap - soon I will have no nerves!

Caylee was beautiful, Caylee was an angel, Caylee was INNOCENT! Everyone on here and other places as well as the State of Florida are her dream team. Justice will prevail - even IF there is a hung jury that OC's circus team will dry up and disappear and she will eventually face the music. I believe Caylee is wrapped in our lord's arms and safe and because of that Caylee will have justice.

All the other distractions do not matter, they just do not matter.

Oh yes and HI :seeya: everyone! I am not normally an angry person :)Nice post, and welcome to the board!

[WillowInFlight]

Maybe at the last minute Conway will make an appearance to state that George will not attend because his doctors have strongly advised him to stay away.

I truly believe that George will be there.

[~tj~]

Long time lurker - was not going to register and post - However, I can NOT take it anymore! I hate everything about this case. The actors/esses involved make me sick! Every time a "BOMBSHELL" or "Breaking Report" or "PC" happens I can feel another nerve snap - soon I will have no nerves!

Caylee was beautiful, Caylee was an angel, Caylee was INNOCENT! Everyone on here and other places as well as the State of Florida are her dream team. Justice will prevail - even IF there is a hung jury that OC's circus team will dry up and disappear and she will eventually face the music. I believe Caylee is wrapped in our lord's arms and safe and because of that Caylee will have justice.

All the other distractions do not matter, they just do not matter.

Oh yes and HI :seeya: everyone! I am not normally an angry person :)

Welcome aboard!!!:seeya:

[debkay]

Has anyone heard for sure about the bracelets??? What they are and are the for sale?? I hope for a low turn out for this too. It is not about Caylee. JMO

[blehchaos]

Nice post, and welcome to the board!

Thank you and Thank you!

Seriously, I trust none of the players in this game... everyone is out to get something on the death of Caylee.

Caylee is the one I think of AND the only one who gets her name mentioned in my house.

The others... huh... acid on my tongue.

[*MoonRider*]

I truly believe that George will be there.

If Cindy wants him there, he WILL be there. jmo

[~tj~]

Has anyone heard for sure about the bracelets??? What they are and are the for sale?? I hope for a low turn out for this too. It is not about Caylee. JMO

Cindy will probably be selling bracelets at the door. :sneaky:

[Dunlurken]

Well I'm in FL. If I were called I would honestly tell them I could not be unbiased...that I have an opinion already.

What I really pray for is that all prospective jurors would be truthful during voir dire. Hope I spelled that right..I think that is the juror questioning process?

And I HOPE one of the questions is "do you participate on any message boards about this crime?" :sneaky: I think most of us have made up our mind as to her guilt. I've not seen anyone who has said they think she is not guilty. I have seen one or two who occasionally play "devil's advocate" and seem to consider both sides.

For the vast majority of us, her guilt is obvious. Nothing wrong with that at all. But I don't think we could serve on the jury in all good conscience.

IMO of course.Good morning all! :seeya:

See, I'm one of those crazies that think she could get an unbiased jury, and I've been following the case pretty closely. JMO.

I see no need for a COV.

[blehchaos]

Has anyone heard for sure about the bracelets??? What they are and are the for sale?? I hope for a low turn out for this too. It is not about Caylee. JMO


I pray that is a rumor but it would not shock me if it were true.

From day one - which - IMO began 6/15/2008 it has not been about Caylee.

[Dunlurken]

Has anyone heard for sure about the bracelets??? What they are and are the for sale?? I hope for a low turn out for this too. It is not about Caylee. JMO

If it's been reported, I've missed it. JMO.

[debkay]

Sounds like Tuesday the A's are holding another fundraiser!! JMO :cursing: I will try not to watch.

[marshmallow]

I was sitting here putting ads up and I had a brain fart..

don't you love those :D

Casey claimed in her interview that she went looking for Zanny the one armed Nanny at Fusion, if Zanny hung there and was so close with Casey why didn't anyone get introduced to her. If Casey's nanny was there at the same time Casey was ...did Casey do intros to anyone?
(I know the answers to this but it just popped into my head)

[~tj~]

I'm in Oregon so of course I won't be going, but I'll watch it on tv. Do you guys know what channel??? TRUTV?????

[Katt2]

Has anyone heard for sure about the bracelets??? What they are and are the for sale?? I hope for a low turn out for this too. It is not about Caylee. JMO

I really don't think we want a low turnout for this memorial. It will just give Baez more fuel to spout about the public being against his client and her family and more ammo to suggest she cannot get a fair trial.

[Lilly12]

I hope they do so they can't say she didn't get a fair trial! That's what Baez wants. Sadly, this memorial will be one more reason for him to show up in front of the judge and prove "thousands" of people in Orlando think his client is guilty.

I say grant them COV...and let's get on with the trial! I'm confident the evidence is overwhelming and it won't matter where the trial will be held.

Lets hope it is not where the potential jurors do not trust law enforcemet and prosecutors. I read or heard somewhere, that is where Baez will want and TRY to get the trial................. ANY THOUGHTS? .....ANYBODY? moo

[CelticDawn]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/07/caylee.memorial/index.html

Caylee's remains won't be at memorial service

I wouldn't expect them to have her remains at a public service...


good morning.....


actually I dont blame those people.....

at this point, a final resting place for Caylee might draw loonies and freaks out ....so I hope they do an Interment PRIVATELY ....


After all the foolishness and circus like coverage of their bathroom visits and hygiene product ordering is over....THEN maybe they can publicize where her grave is located......Then, genuine caring people may go there and pay their respects.

[Dunlurken]

Sounds like Tuesday the A's are holding another fundraiser!! JMO :cursing: I will try not to watch.

"Sounds like?" Are we playing charades here? LOL. Why would you say that? I will try and watch, not sure I will be able to though. I guess everyone has noticed Nancy Grace will have a special on at Noon on HLN? JMO.

[CelticDawn]

I hope they do so they can't say she didn't get a fair trial! That's what Baez wants. Sadly, this memorial will be one more reason for him to show up in front of the judge and prove "thousands" of people in Orlando think his client is guilty.

I say grant them COV...and let's get on with the trial! I'm confident the evidence is overwhelming and it won't matter where the trial will be held.

I agree n/t....grant their COV....as a matter of fact <and this is from experience watching local cases> GRANT THEM ANYTHING THAT IS VAGUELY REASONABLE.....and LET THEM HANG THEMSELVES.

[Dunlurken]

I'm in Oregon so of course I won't be going, but I'll watch it on tv. Do you guys know what channel??? TRUTV?????

Come to this board and there will be a live stream. Can't remember the link though. I highly doubt TruTV will cover it, but I've been wrong before.

[blehchaos]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/07/caylee.memorial/index.html

Caylee's remains won't be at memorial service

I wouldn't expect them to have her remains at a public service...


good morning.....


actually I dont blame those people.....

at this point, a final resting place for Caylee might draw loonies and freaks out ....so I hope they do an Interment PRIVATELY ....


After all the foolishness and circus like coverage of their bathroom visits and hygiene product ordering is over....THEN maybe they can publicize where her grave is located......Then, genuine caring people may go there and pay their respects.

Or as I heard "steal her remains" :rolleyes:

[Dunlurken]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/07/caylee.memorial/index.html

Caylee's remains won't be at memorial service

I wouldn't expect them to have her remains at a public service...


good morning.....


actually I dont blame those people.....

at this point, a final resting place for Caylee might draw loonies and freaks out ....so I hope they do an Interment PRIVATELY ....


After all the foolishness and circus like coverage of their bathroom visits and hygiene product ordering is over....THEN maybe they can publicize where her grave is located......Then, genuine caring people may go there and pay their respects.
Great minds think alike. JMO.

I wonder how George will hold up? I really feel for him.

[CelticDawn]

I was sitting here putting ads up and I had a brain fart..

don't you love those :D

Casey claimed in her interview that she went looking for Zanny the one armed Nanny at Fusion, if Zanny hung there and was so close with Casey why didn't anyone get introduced to her. If Casey's nanny was there at the same time Casey was ...did Casey do intros to anyone?
(I know the answers to this but it just popped into my head)

I bolded some stuff....

Well WHERE was Caylee all those times...???

[PuffDragon]

Long time lurker - was not going to register and post - However, I can NOT take it anymore! I hate everything about this case. The actors/esses involved make me sick! Every time a "BOMBSHELL" or "Breaking Report" or "PC" happens I can feel another nerve snap - soon I will have no nerves!

Caylee was beautiful, Caylee was an angel, Caylee was INNOCENT! Everyone on here and other places as well as the State of Florida are her dream team. Justice will prevail - even IF there is a hung jury that OC's circus team will dry up and disappear and she will eventually face the music. I believe Caylee is wrapped in our lord's arms and safe and because of that Caylee will have justice.

All the other distractions do not matter, they just do not matter.

Oh yes and HI :seeya: everyone! I am not normally an angry person :)
Well said, bleh! You didn't sound angry, you sounded passionate. We all are passionate about this in one way or another so you should fit right in. Welcome to the group.

[~tj~]

Ok thanks Dun!!

[Dunlurken]

Or as I heard "steal her remains" :rolleyes:

Been known to happen. The nut jobs we have seen so far in this case, nothing would surprise me. JMO.

[blehchaos]

I bolded some stuff....

Well WHERE was Caylee all those times...???

Caylee was with the nanny's sister geesh ... :sneaky:

[blehchaos]

Well said, bleh! You didn't sound angry, you sounded passionate. We all are passionate about this in one way or another so you should fit right in. Welcome to the group.

Hi Puff... I love love love your posts and your desire to categorize fact/fiction/familyspeak/attorneyspeak...

[SavannahStar]

Good morning all! :seeya:

See, I'm one of those crazies that think she could get an unbiased jury, and I've been following the case pretty closely. JMO.

I see no need for a COV.


Maybe you misunderstood my post, dunnie. I, too, think she will be able to get an unbiased jury. I don't, however, feel it should include anyone who has followed the case very closely....most of those, I daresay, have decided she is guilty (myself included!). Again, nothing wrong with that!

I'm pretty confident they will get a COV. Nothing wrong with that either.

[blehchaos]

Been known to happen. The nut jobs we have seen so far in this case, nothing would surprise me. JMO.

I am sure you and I do not have the same "nutjobs" in mind... the "nutjobs" I think of aren't stealing remains just makin' money of 'em IMO of course...

[PuffDragon]

I was sitting here putting ads up and I had a brain fart..

don't you love those :D

Casey claimed in her interview that she went looking for Zanny the one armed Nanny at Fusion, if Zanny hung there and was so close with Casey why didn't anyone get introduced to her. If Casey's nanny was there at the same time Casey was ...did Casey do intros to anyone?
(I know the answers to this but it just popped into my head)

Here's another then: if Zanny had Caylee, why would Casey expect to find her at a club? Surely even Casey wouldn't expect Zanny to take Caylee clubbing in the middle of the night with her???

[CelticDawn]

Long time lurker - was not going to register and post - However, I can NOT take it anymore! I hate everything about this case. The actors/esses involved make me sick! Every time a "BOMBSHELL" or "Breaking Report" or "PC" happens I can feel another nerve snap - soon I will have no nerves!

Caylee was beautiful, Caylee was an angel, Caylee was INNOCENT! Everyone on here and other places as well as the State of Florida are her dream team. Justice will prevail - even IF there is a hung jury that OC's circus team will dry up and disappear and she will eventually face the music. I believe Caylee is wrapped in our lord's arms and safe and because of that Caylee will have justice.

All the other distractions do not matter, they just do not matter.

Oh yes and HI :seeya: everyone! I am not normally an angry person :)


Well I am.....!!! A VERY angry person....Lets just say this isnt the first horrid stuff Ive seen....and up close and personal...It sickens you after a while...


anyway....I believe in my heart that God spares the truly innocent of the actual horror and memories of violent death....and that Caylee is safe now...

I also have some "unconventional" beliefs about caylees spirit....all good....but I believe that she knows what is going on here....although she may see all of it in another light ....She is on a higher plane than us....and we cant relate to that just yet.

[kOOkie1]

..Ugh I think I mentioned last night that, to me, this is going to be a Memorial Service about the murdering mommie too. I can imagine if Casey has had some input into this "service" there is no doubt it will be about her. I just wish if that's the case they would do THAT privately..but cant see that happening as long as they have one last public display of support being directed by The Anthony's. Very sickening- I have to admit I will peek on Tues. and see whats up..I doubt I will be able to tolerate the A's made for-TV Special. When will Caylee ever get any respect? It just bothers me:sad:

[PuffDragon]

Hi Puff... I love love love your posts and your desire to categorize fact/fiction/familyspeak/attorneyspeak...

Thank you bleh..... :blushing: oh, i feel like Nancy Grace... anyone want to see pictures of my grandniece...?

[blehchaos]

[QUOTE=blehchaos;12751788]*snipped for spcae

I also have some "unconventional" beliefs about caylees spirit....all good....but I believe that she knows what is going on here....although she may see all of it in another light ....She is on a higher plane than us....and we cant relate to that just yet.

Celtic - we probably aren't that far off on beliefs...

I have seen sick, to me this gets sicker and sicker, I have done and will continue to do my little part in saying Caylee's name and ONLY Caylee's name

[CelticDawn]

Caylee was with the nanny's sister geesh ... :sneaky:

Thats a good one....Casey hires a PARTY PARTNER NANNY :lol: who has a SUBSTITUTE :lol: that actually does the babysitting...???


Priceless......

[Dunlurken]

Maybe you misunderstood my post, dunnie. I, too, think she will be able to get an unbiased jury. I don't, however, feel it should include anyone who has followed the case very closely....most of those, I daresay, have decided she is guilty (myself included!). Again, nothing wrong with that!

I'm pretty confident they will get a COV. Nothing wrong with that either.

I agree, they will get a COV, not that it is needed though. This case has had so much media coverage, one venue vs. another isn't that important. You either followed the case or you didn't. Some could lie during voir dire and say they haven't followed the case via TV, etc. So we shall see what happens. I'm with you though. Request a COV, let it be granted so no reason for appeal, and let the chips fall where they may.

JMO.

[~tj~]

Thank you bleh..... :blushing: oh, i feel like Nancy Grace... anyone want to see pictures of my grandniece...?

LMAO!:laugh:

[CC I See]

Casey Anthony Case Similar to "The Fugitive"????

http://www.wesh.com/video/18659897/index.html

UNBELIEVABLE :scared:

Casey's defense maintain she's innocent BUT will not reveal who they believe killed Caylee until the trial??? Am I hearing correctly?
You would think if the defense had evidence another person is responsible, JB and LKB would be shouting from the roof tops?
JB wants a COV. Complains the media saturation will prevent finding an impartial jury. So what do these two do? Go on National TV and compare Casey to the Fugitive. IMO.....Either these two are bonkers or going on National TV to plant doubt is a brilliant defense maneuver..... could this be why the Anthony family REALLY is seeking immunity? Seriously, can you believe anything out of that man's mouth. If there was another person that was responsible for killing Caylee, don't you think Baez would have told LE. Isn't he suppose to tell and not withhold information if client privilege does not apply?

[PuffDragon]

I agree, they will get a COV, not that it is needed though. This case has had so much media coverage, one venue vs. another isn't that important. You either followed the case or you didn't. Some could lie during voir dire and say they haven't followed the case via TV, etc. So we shall see what happens. I'm with you though. Request a COV, let it be granted so no reason for appeal, and let the chips fall where they may.

JMO.

I just hope that everybody does a good enough job of interviewing prospective jurors to weed out anyone who has a hidden agenda.

[blehchaos]

Thank you bleh..... :blushing: oh, i feel like Nancy Grace... anyone want to see pictures of my grandniece...?

Hi Puff this Bleh from the state of chaos... first let me say you are awesome and your grandniece is just beautiful looking forward to more pictures ... now my question ... Where is that forensic guy that never appears anymore? :biggrin:

[Dunlurken]

Here's another then: if Zanny had Caylee, why would Casey expect to find her at a club? Surely even Casey wouldn't expect Zanny to take Caylee clubbing in the middle of the night with her???

Here's my take on the whole partying at fusion, etc. For argument sake (which I know people hate it when I do this), but let us just say, Casey thought Caylee was in a safe place. Why not go to Fusion?

[blehchaos]

Thats a good one....Casey hires a PARTY PARTNER NANNY :lol: who has a SUBSTITUTE :lol: that actually does the babysitting...???


Priceless......

LMAO - and one-armed!!!

[CelticDawn]

..Ugh I think I mentioned last night that, to me, this is going to be a Memorial Service about the murdering mommie too. I can imagine if Casey has had some input into this "service" there is no doubt it will be about her. I just wish if that's the case they would do THAT privately..but cant see that happening as long as they have one last public display of support being directed by The Anthony's. Very sickening- I have to admit I will peek on Tues. and see whats up..I doubt I will be able to tolerate the A's made for-TV Special. When will Caylee ever get any respect? It just bothers me:sad:

It AINT PUBLIC.....IMO...
If select folks cant go...

And YEAH....I expect to see some reference to casey....maybe in a slideshow or video clip....something....
...and at that point in watching the ceremony I will barf

[PuffDragon]

Hi Puff this Bleh from the state of chaos... first let me say you are awesome and your grandniece is just beautiful looking forward to more pictures ... now my question ... Where is that forensic guy that never appears anymore? :biggrin:

:laugh: Nice to talk to you dear. Do you mean Kobi? Over to my producer, Nitisha Lance. Nitisha, do we know what happened to Kobi....? Gee, Nancy, that's something I can't answer right now but I'll try to find out for you by tomorrow.......:laugh:

[WillowInFlight]

It AINT PUBLIC.....IMO...
If select folks cant go...

And YEAH....I expect to see some reference to casey....maybe in a slideshow or video clip....something....
...and at that point in watching the ceremony I will barf

ITA, I think they will have Casey play a big part in this. IMO

[martha]

Good morning eveyone, Hope you all have a very good day. I know I am like the rest of you and can;t get caylee of my mind. I just hate it is going to take so long for a trial. I will be glad to wait if there is justice for Caylee. I know she is ok and in God's arms but still we need to see justice for her here on earth. The people that harm children need to be punished. JMHO

[Dunlurken]

It AINT PUBLIC.....IMO...
If select folks cant go...

And YEAH....I expect to see some reference to casey....maybe in a slideshow or video clip....something....
...and at that point in watching the ceremony I will barfIf there are pics of Casey kissing Caylee, it won't be a pretty sight. Me thinks someone has bitten off more than they can chew!
JMO.

This SHOULD be about Caylee. NO ONE ELSE! We shall see what happens. JMO. Will be very "telling".

[frances1]

.... could this be why the Anthony family REALLY is seeking immunity? Seriously, can you believe anything out of that man's mouth. If there was another person that was responsible for killing Caylee, don't you think Baez would have told LE. Isn't he suppose to tell and not withhold information if client privilege does not apply?

Deja vu, anyone? Mark Geragos, anyone?

[blehchaos]

It AINT PUBLIC.....IMO...
If select folks cant go...

And YEAH....I expect to see some reference to casey....maybe in a slideshow or video clip....something....
...and at that point in watching the ceremony I will barf

Hey everyone - I am having a public Bar-B-Que... everyone is invited... well with some exceptions... uh a lot of exceptions... aw heck I will just send the list out of who IS invited the uninvited is gettin' to darn long!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Hi Puff this Bleh from the state of chaos... first let me say you are awesome and your grandniece is just beautiful looking forward to more pictures ... now my question ... Where is that forensic guy that never appears anymore? :biggrin:

Welcome to the board bleh..I think you are referring to Larry Kobolinsky, and yes he had ben on the Defense original witness list, and yes he even played "Telephone Man" ( like in Spector Case) in one of the earlier hearing in the fall, however, I think he no longer is on the witness list...dont have any link tho, sorry, but have read it here on the boards, so must be true:lol:...

Maybe Henry Lee and others have replaced his input, or maybe Dr. Koby ( our indearing nic for him) requested to step away, or was asked to step aside if his opinion did not help their case...Dont know tho...Just speculating at this point..

Again, welcome...

LMS

[CC I See]

Does anyone here think Caylee was already laid to rest? Her remains were already cremated or buried? I have no proof and it's against everything that's been said in the media but I can't shake the feeling I have that this was already done. Maybe before George's alleged suicide attempt?

I don't understand having a public memorial before a funeral? Has anyone heard or experienced something like this before? Usually it's the other way around. Funeral and then memorial? Right?

bolding mine.... we've been fooled and lied to so many times that you just might be right.

[blehchaos]

Good morning eveyone, Hope you all have a very good day. I know I am like the rest of you and can;t get caylee of my mind. I just hate it is going to take so long for a trial. I will be glad to wait if there is justice for Caylee. I know she is ok and in God's arms but still we need to see justice for her here on earth. The people that harm children need to be punished. JMHO

I have 100% faith Caylee WILL receive her justice here on earth MO

[PuffDragon]

Here's my take on the whole partying at fusion, etc. For argument sake (which I know people hate it when I do this), but let us just say, Casey thought Caylee was in a safe place. Why not go to Fusion?

It's a good 'for argument sake'. It could have even worked if Casey hadn't decided to elaborate and say she couldn't tell anybody because she feared for Caylee's life........at the hands of this wonderful Nanny who adored her so much that she had a spare set of everything the baby could even need and even took to her to the beach and Disneyworld...........

[CelticDawn]

Good morning eveyone, Hope you all have a very good day. I know I am like the rest of you and can;t get caylee of my mind. I just hate it is going to take so long for a trial. I will be glad to wait if there is justice for Caylee. I know she is ok and in God's arms but still we need to see justice for her here on earth. The people that harm children need to be punished. JMHO



HEY MARTHA...!!! Hope yall are doing OK ...

One way or another....Caylee will get her justice....and Casewy WILL GET HERS too...You don't get to be that evil and not pay...

[blehchaos]

:laugh: Nice to talk to you dear. Do you mean Kobi? Over to my producer, Nitisha Lance. Nitisha, do we know what happened to Kobi....? Gee, Nancy, that's something I can't answer right now but I'll try to find out for you by tomorrow.......:laugh:

LOL... I am so glad I ended up joining you all are great! And to be here for the common goal of respecting, remembering and caring about Caylee makes it so much better!

[WillowInFlight]

HEY MARTHA...!!! Hope yall are doing OK ...

One way or another....Caylee will get her justice....and Casewy WILL GET HERS too...You don't get to be that evil and not pay...

True dat, I'm looking forward to the day that she is mixed in with the general population. :sneaky:

[blehchaos]

HEY MARTHA...!!! Hope yall are doing OK ...

One way or another....Caylee will get her justice....and Casewy WILL GET HERS too...You don't get to be that evil and not pay...

KARMA - it sucks when you have been bad and OC been very, very bad:no:

[oops]

"Sounds like?" Are we playing charades here? LOL. Why would you say that? I will try and watch, not sure I will be able to though. I guess everyone has noticed Nancy Grace will have a special on at Noon on HLN? JMO.
I have been wondering if my hearing was bad, I heard a blurb on HLN last nite about a special about the memorial I thought i heard in Orlando surely NG wouldn't be going to the memorial would she???:ohmy: BTW HLN is covering it live at the Memorial at 10AM ET

[court~critic1®]

It AINT PUBLIC.....IMO...
If select folks cant go...

And YEAH....I expect to see some reference to casey....maybe in a slideshow or video clip....something....
...and at that point in watching the ceremony I will barf

bolding is mine.......


I believe it will be 99.9% about Casey. The main reason why I won't be watching the "Anthony Family Show". More than likely sponsered by "People Mag." & others.

[CelticDawn]

True dat, I'm looking forward to the day that she is mixed in with the general population. :sneaky:

I can only hope I live to see the day that it is actually announced that they STOP CODDLING THAT THING...!!!

[CC I See]

:laugh: Nice to talk to you dear. Do you mean Kobi? Over to my producer, Nitisha Lance. Nitisha, do we know what happened to Kobi....? Gee, Nancy, that's something I can't answer right now but I'll try to find out for you by tomorrow.......:laugh:

I don't think Kobi has gotten over the revelation that the Cadaver Dogs really did hit on decomp in the Anthony's yard and not the scent of another dog who left a scent earlier in the yard. His credibility was severely shaken, in my opinion.

[Dunlurken]

It's a good 'for argument sake'. It could have even worked if Casey hadn't decided to elaborate and say she couldn't tell anybody because she feared for Caylee's life........at the hands of this wonderful Nanny who adored her so much that she had a spare set of everything the baby could even need and even took to her to the beach and Disneyworld...........

Who is the nanny? See, this is also bothering me. Both ZFG and Casey admit they have never seen each other. LE showed Casey a picture of the "current" Zanny, and Casey said, no that's not her.

I guess the bottom line is this. There was no Zanny the Nanny. Okay, think I'm back on board.

[happy2bme]

LOL... I am so glad I ended up joining you all are great! And to be here for the common goal of respecting, remembering and caring about Caylee makes it so much better!


Yes it does! This child has touched the hearts of many.

Welcome blehchaos!:seeya:

[CelticDawn]

bolding is mine.......


I believe it will be 99.9% about Casey. The main reason why I won't be watching the "Anthony Family Show". More than likely sponsered by "People Mag." & others.

I think that people who can should write emails and boycott their sponsors ...just for a little while....If they do what I think theyre going to do with that ceremony.

[Dells]

Their defense will be to poke holes in forensics evidence. That's what LKB is very famous for. She can't use "suicide" as a defense here but she will try to prove anyone who had access to the A's house, Casey's car, Casey's belongings and Caylee may have done it. I'm not so sure they will point the finger at one person. It'll be many potential suspects including her own family.

Also, sloppy police work (blaming LE for rush to judgement) , contaminated evidence, unreliable witnesses..

It'll be nasty.

Good Morning!

Good morning!!

Great post! I think that is what the defense will do as well. I agree that they have no other specific person in mind. They'll try to cast blame on anybody that knew Casey and was around her during the time that Caylee went missing and was murdered. They'll do that plus try to poke holes wherever they can in the prosecution's case. I don't think it will work, but it is all they've got.

[Dunlurken]

I have been wondering if my hearing was bad, I heard a blurb on HLN last nite about a special about the memorial I thought i heard in Orlando surely NG wouldn't be going to the memorial would she???:ohmy: BTW HLN is covering it live at the Memorial at 10AM ET

Something tells me Nancy is on the "not invited" list. JMO. Along with Lenny. LOL.

[blehchaos]

Yes it does! This child has touched the hearts of many.

Welcome blehchaos!:seeya:

If IT didn't want Caylee I would have gladly taken Caylee as I think most here would have.

I just know the lies, charades, PC's, smoke, mirrors - all of it will dissolve with truth for Caylee.

[Lilly12]

It will be interesting to see how JB keeps this case in the limelight for ten months before it goes to trial. Can we take ten months of more lies and stunts? Ten months should give them plenty of time to find the real murderer and to let the truth come out. OMG.

I agree. I don't watch Nancy Grace as much. Same old same old.............
Question. Why is it taking so long to go to trial? ....... PLEASE someone answer. Oh, and will/can the defense say the evidence is compromised, because of the passing of time. moo

[Dells]

Good morning everyone! I just have a feeling that there may not be as many people attending this memorial as the anthonys think there will.

b&b better be careful what they wish for, the trial may be moved to a county more conservative then Orange.

At any rate, it will be up to the Judge and once closer to trial, as ADA Linda Drane Burdick stated, a more accurate assessment can be made as to whether public sentiment would deny the defendant a fair trial in Orlando.

Because b&b have taken their dog and pony show on the road, it may just turn out that more people will be of the opinion that they aren't sure who committed this murder and want to see the evidence at trial. Thus defeating any motion for a change of venue. imo.

Bolding mine...

So true. On The Today Show Baez said something about moving the trial where "they" want it. The defense can't name a place where they want it, can they? Doesn't the judge decide on that? Personally I don't care if there is a COV because I think Casey will be convicted no matter what. The evidence is just too overwhelming.

[Dunlurken]

If IT didn't want Caylee I would have gladly taken Caylee as I think most here would have.

I just know the lies, charades, PC's, smoke, mirrors - all of it will dissolve with truth for Caylee.

Therein lies the rub. Cindy would have also taken Caylee. And George too. Grand parents have no rights, which has been a long-standing issue for me. JMO.

[CelticDawn]

Good morning!!

Great post! I think that is what the defense will do as well. I agree that they have no other specific person in mind. They'll try to cast blame on anybody that knew Casey and was around her during the time that Caylee went missing and was murdered. They'll do that plus try to poke holes wherever they can in the prosecution's case. I don't think it will work, but it is all they've got.

LKB seems to like to go way back to pretechnology times to try and prove her case.....

Maybe shell bring up some MRI of an Egyptian mymmy and try to disprove what DNA has made certain :lol:

[?noanswer]

It AINT PUBLIC.....IMO...
If select folks cant go...

And YEAH....I expect to see some reference to casey....maybe in a slideshow or video clip....something....
...and at that point in watching the ceremony I will barf

Wonder if attendees will get up and walk out if KC is given a part (video, etc.) in the service. JMO

[Dells]

Leonard Padilla is right. This is a Cindy memorial not a Caylee memorial. :sad:

Just as long as it doesn't turn into a Casey memorial.:sneaky:

[blehchaos]

Good morning!!

Great post! I think that is what the defense will do as well. I agree that they have no other specific person in mind. They'll try to cast blame on anybody that knew Casey and was around her during the time that Caylee went missing and was murdered. They'll do that plus try to poke holes wherever they can in the prosecution's case. I don't think it will work, but it is all they've got.

ITA - there will be several Zanny's (OC's friends and acquaintances) thrown out there to be seen as doubt. They have no defense as this creature is indefensible.

[court~critic1®]

Something tells me Nancy is on the "not invited" list. JMO. Along with Lenny. LOL.


Well Nancy has changed her tune about the Ants. after Cindy said she and her friends would not watch her show anymore. lol Poor Nancy.

She now spouts "The poor Anthonys" about every other sentence .

[Dunlurken]

I agree. I don't watch Nancy Grace as much. Same old same old.............
Question. Why is it taking so long to go to trial? ....... PLEASE someone answer. Oh, and will/can the defense say the evidence is compromised, because of the passing of time. moo

Of course they can. What do you think they're doing. LKB is famous for her "chain of custody" defense. JMO.

[happy2bme]

I have been wondering if Cindy has given any thought to where Casey & Caylee were during the 2 years Casey supposedly had a job?

What did Cindy think of all the photos of her daughter out partying?

What did she think of Casey & Caylee sleeping in the same bed with Ricardo?

You know this has got to bother her. Especially the fact that this was going on under her very nose.:glare:

[blehchaos]

Therein lies the rub. Cindy would have also taken Caylee. And George too. Grand parents have no rights, which has been a long-standing issue for me. JMO.

Hmmm this is where I will tread lightly sort of... Caylee deserved more then the GP's - they raised the OC. See I said it nicely :closedeyes:

[crymeariver2006]

Bolding mine...

So true. On The Today Show Baez said something about moving the trial where "they" want it. The defense can't name a place where they want it, can they? Doesn't the judge decide on that? Personally I don't care if there is a COV because I think Casey will be convicted no matter what. The evidence is just too overwhelming.


Oh, he can put his two cents in about a location (BTW, so can the prosecution) but in the end, it's the judge's decision whether to move it and where to move it to.

Judge Strickland is already on the record as wanting to avoid appellate issues (i.e. requiring Casey to attend all future hearings so she can't claim ignorance of the rulings), so I have no doubt that the COV will be granted. But, as is usual the case, Baez should be careful what he asks for....

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Well Nancy has changed her tune about the Ants. after Cindy said she and her friends would not watch her show anymore. lol Poor Nancy.

She now spouts "The poor Anthonys" about every other sentence .

I also noticed that she chastizes Lenny constantly for bashing Cindy too..Kinda makes me chuckle..as I see Lenny chuckles often when he gets that thrown at him..

LMS:laugh:

[Dunlurken]

Well Nancy has changed her tune about the Ants. after Cindy said she and her friends would not watch her show anymore. lol Poor Nancy.

She now spouts "The poor Anthonys" about every other sentence .

She always has. It's nothing new. And I agree with her totally. Your grand daughter is murdered and your only daughter is on trial for her murder. NG is right on target with giving the Anthony's the benefit of the doubt. They are grieving for little Caylee, and grieving for their own daughter as well.

I wouldn't wish this nightmare on my worst enemy. JMO.

[blehchaos]

I have been wondering if Cindy has given any thought to where Casey & Caylee were during the 2 years Casey supposedly had a job?

What did Cindy think of all the photos of her daughter out partying?

What did she think of Casey & Caylee sleeping in the same bed with Ricardo?

You know this has got to bother her. Especially the fact that this was going on under her very nose.:glare:

She does not know what she thinks the OC hasn't told her yet IMO

[CelticDawn]

I have been wondering if Cindy has given any thought to where Casey & Caylee were during the 2 years Casey supposedly had a job?

What did Cindy think of all the photos of her daughter out partying?

What did she think of Casey & Caylee sleeping in the same bed with Ricardo?

You know this has got to bother her. Especially the fact that this was going on under her very nose.:glare:

Cindy is overbearing and thinks she is in control....Im sure she KNEW....but figured that SHE TRAINED casey well...and that none of her Perfect family illusion would ever be tainted....HOWever....Casey got careless

[Auburngirl]

ITA, I think they will have Casey play a big part in this. IMO


ITA Willow. I mean, why not? They've been totally tasteless IMO throughout this so why not include KC in a big way?

[cassidy]

Here's my take on the whole partying at fusion, etc. For argument sake (which I know people hate it when I do this), but let us just say, Casey thought Caylee was in a safe place. Why not go to Fusion?

IIRC Casey herself stated that she didn't tell anyone because she feared for Caylee's and her family's safety. I guess if she felt comfortable enough to go to fusion, she wasn't concerned about her own safety. She knew where Caylee was and it sure wasn't a "safe place".


JMO

[CelticDawn]

I also noticed that she chastizes Lenny constantly for bashing Cindy too..Kinda makes me chuckle..as I see Lenny chuckles often when he gets that thrown at him..

LMS:laugh:

Lennys showmanship is excellent ....<in its place>....

[desmom]

Here's my take on the whole partying at fusion, etc. For argument sake (which I know people hate it when I do this), but let us just say, Casey thought Caylee was in a safe place. Why not go to Fusion?

but but in Casey's handwritten statement she said "I avoided calling the police or even notifying my own family out of fear. I have been and still am afraid of what has or may happen to Caylee." page 33 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/0825-Casey-Anthony-Documents-released-part-1

[Dunlurken]

I also noticed that she chastizes Lenny constantly for bashing Cindy too..Kinda makes me chuckle..as I see Lenny chuckles often when he gets that thrown at him..

LMS:laugh:
It's called sensationalism TV. You have to weed through the good stuff and the bad stuff. At least she's covering it, and I give her kudos for that.

Lenny..... at first I was mad at him for bailing out Casey. But he has come to his senses and revoked the bond, which is why Cindy is so mad at him. JMO.

[blehchaos]

Well everyone - hate to post and run - seems so dirty :) but I have errands to run - I will be back! Thank you to all of those who welcomed me so warmly and as always JUSTICE for CAYLEE

[WillowInFlight]

ITA Willow. I mean, why not? They've been totally tasteless IMO throughout this so why not include KC in a big way?

This is in a way the only way that they can make Casey look human and try and do some damage control. IMO