Fri. Feb. 6th. Part II

[happy2bme]

I'll have to see how Monday goes, I've been taking too much time off work in the last 6 months, if I can arrange something closer to Orlando I might.


Hope everything is okay your way.:smile:

[WillowInFlight]

It's all about a make over for Casey in the public eye.

Yep...........

[ruth66]

I am just watching Conway right now - for anyone who hasn't seen it - here is the link;

http://www.wesh.com/video/18659712/


from the link above:

Conway calling this a "phenomenom" says it all. His news conference was like an advertisement. "you will just have to come and see"

Unbelievable

JMO

[RiverWalk]

ParaTroll you are way out of line. WAY out of line, imo.

[WillowInFlight]

Add the Anthonys previous attorney to that list of people that didn't drink the koolaide. And that lady, Lois, I don't think shes allowed, but would her granddaughter be allowed?

I just can't imagine who will even want to be a part of a Media Memorial, to be honest.

I just wish they would lay Caylee to rest, and do it quietly with some dignity for her.

Whats with all the kaos, although I did read that ppl with personality disorders and mental illness thrive in kaos and create it for themselves.

Thats the last place Dakota needs to be.

[ConchGirl]

from the link above:

Conway calling this a "phenomenom" says it all. His news conference was like an advertisement. "you will just have to come and see"

Unbelievable

JMO

I was disappointed to learn that I can't camp out in my tent so I can get a good seat. grrr

[bchand]

YUP, BC, Conway said they still believe she is innocent.

Well, isn't he just Mr. Flip Flop? He recently said they weren't sure.

[Cury-us Coyote]

TEAM COVERAGE: Details Revealed For Caylee Anthony Memorial Service
(per Belich the memorial will include one song that will break hearts)
http://www.wftv.com/video/18659916/index.html

[CC I See]

I think there are going to be folks coming in that want a few minutes on a national television camera to promote themselves and/or their acts, and this is going to bring out all the wackaterias around the country.
bolding mine.

.... I couldn't agree more.... but then it does make for a better story later for the movie. Twists and turns, just keep on comin..

[bchand]

TEAM COVERAGE: Details Revealed For Caylee Anthony Memorial Service
(per Belich the memorial will include one song that will break hearts)
http://www.wftv.com/video/18659916/index.html

I'll bet I can guess which one it will be.

[bama__angel]

I feel like the Anthony's couldn't win no matter what they did or didn't do , it does not matter , nothing , nothing would satisfy anyone , if they both commited suicide there would be TALK that they faked their deaths , to tell you the truth I think they should qualify for some kind of identity change at this point , some protective order to keep them safe.

Since someone said if the Anthony's didn't show up to the public memorial funeral whatever they wouldn't need security .


What is wrong with going into it and all people behaving like human beings ...........? I am sure again it would not matter what the A's do , did ,would have done ,could have done ,should have done in the public's eye ....they will be blasted from here till eternity ......


I guess there just has to be something to talk about , I mean if it weren't this it would be the cheap or expensive flowers , or what someone wore on and on ..............So enlightening it is .



OK I agree with a lot of what you say..........But IMO if this is truly a public memorial to honor Caylee's life no one should be turned away because george or Cindy doesnt like them............Now if someone is a troublemaker, that is different.......This isnt about the Anthonys.........this is for Caylee....only Caylee

[martha]

So her lawyer sayes she will be found not guilty. He must have a lot of things we don;t know about. Does he have a person in mind that did this to caylee? jmho

[CC I See]

Well, isn't he just Mr. Flip Flop? He recently said they weren't sure.... he thinks what he is told or finds a new client.

[KittyMom]

The media will not handle this with kid gloves. The A's, Baez, and Conway have all wagged their fingers in the face of reporters and cameramen too many times. None of the players involved will come out of this smelling of roses.

[Balesha]

YUP, BC, Conway said they still believe she is innocent.

One thing that I wonder is how he reacts when Cindy insists that Casey is innocent. Does he sit there stone faced? Does he try to make them see reality? I'm really curious about this b/c I think that it is not in their best interests to continue to be in denial. I would want my lawyer to tell it to me straight, so I'm wondering if he is doing that. I noticed that he never says that Casey is innocent, and only that the As think she is. I think this speaks volumes b/c he knows that it's unfortunate that the As aren't seeing reality for what it is.

[Cury-us Coyote]

I can't watch it on my home computer....it keeps buffering.:angry:

Is this better?

RAW VIDEO: Attorney Reveals Details About Caylee Anthony Memorial Service
http://www.wftv.com/video/18659821/index.html

[Neffy]

from the link above:

Conway calling this a "phenomenom" says it all. His news conference was like an advertisement. "you will just have to come and see"

Unbelievable

JMO

Actually quite believable and expected.

Come one come all! Seats are going fassssssssssst!

The Anthony's care more about the public baaaaaaah!

Caylee's paying for this service. She paid for it with her life and now with her pictures.

They all make me sick.

[ruth66]

I was disappointed to learn that I can't camp out in my tent so I can get a good seat. grrr


Interestingly, the Anthony's continue to show everyone what they are really about.

I wish that the people that go would stand up and leave the moment Casey becomes the focus of the memorial. Now that would be telling and let the Anthony's know how they really feel. I don't think it would be disrespectful, I think it would be a dose of "reality" for them.

JMO

[ConchGirl]

OK I agree with a lot of what you say..........But IMO if this is truly a public memorial to honor Caylee's life no one should be turned away because george or Cindy doesnt like them............Now if someone is a troublemaker, that is different.......This isnt about the Anthonys.........this is for Caylee....only Caylee

IMO this is all about Cindy.

[Cury-us Coyote]

I'll bet I can guess which one it will be.

Yup, I bet you can.

[happy2bme]

I feel like the Anthony's couldn't win no matter what they did or didn't do , it does not matter , nothing , nothing would satisfy anyone , if they both commited suicide there would be TALK that they faked their deaths , to tell you the truth I think they should qualify for some kind of identity change at this point , some protective order to keep them safe.

Since someone said if the Anthony's didn't show up to the public memorial funeral whatever they wouldn't need security .


What is wrong with going into it and all people behaving like human beings ...........? I am sure again it would not matter what the A's do , did ,would have done ,could have done ,should have done in the public's eye ....they will be blasted from here till eternity ......


I guess there just has to be something to talk about , I mean if it weren't this it would be the cheap or expensive flowers , or what someone wore on and on ..............So enlightening it is .

What part of "opinion" do you not understand? Not everyone here agrees with how the A's have handled themselves. I know, I know...grieving grandparents....Show me some grieving for this innocent baby and I bet alot would show compassion.
JMOO.

[Pruddennce]

Meanwhile, while I was in solitary, I had made some observations of a few things. First, I have come to the conclusion that Jose Baez is very much like Casey. He does not seem to have the capability to see things past the next corner. He does things in a knee-jerk way and then doesn't see the consequences until they hit him in the face. Anyone else notice this? And another thing. If I have to watch that video of Cindy sitting in that courtroom chewing gum like a cow chewing cud, fingering her mouth like that, I think I'm going to be sick. It is almost as annoying as when Casey does that thing with her mouth, when she is nervous. Third, I heard the TH on NG the other day saying that Baez is "humanizing" his client. Well, I don't care if he is, I think all that outrageous flirting he is doing needs to stop. He and his client need to be told point blank to keep their paws and their eyeballs off each other in public. Also, he continues to align himself with seedy and shady people. Hooking up with this new spokesperson that turns out to be a felon is an unbelievably dumb move.

I am all for colleagues helping colleagues when they are need and giving the guy a kudo for taking on such a difficult and challenging case, however, if he continues on this path he is trodding with reckless abandon, he is going to set himself up for a huge career failure and a conviction for his client.

:seeya: Good to be back, friends!

excellent point of view January and WB.

Baez is problematic, for his client. fodder for everyone else.

She acquired him, kept him, and is going to ride into the storm with him unless he is taken off of the case for some 'surprise reason'.

IMO, they deserve each other. his antics in court, showing up without filing appropriate motions in hand before showing up on her behalf, is considered, IMO, downright incompetent for a murder one trial. if he cant get the simple stuff, housekeeping motions done appropriately, when trial comes, all of his sidekicks are not going to be able to smooth over his lack of expertise.

in fact, LKB was atrocious. she took the baton from Baez and made a fool of herself in that one appearance, raising her voice as if 'volume' denotes intelligence.

Casey will lose, IMO, and will spend the next ten or fifteen years filing for a new trial screaming ineffectiveness of counsel. we can only hope.

at this point in time, all Casey is getting from JB is lip service. and his visits are not quite as often....he is busy doing interviews. does she say to Baez, oh I saw your little tv appearance* as she said to her mother in her first jailhouse call?

Casey is not the 'boss' anymore and isnt getting the attention she was use to getting when he first came on board. and she cant play her parents anymore phone to phone because she cant be trusted to exhibit appropriate responses and behaviour.

this trial will be very interesting.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[SavannahStar]

Meanwhile, while I was in solitary, I had made some observations of a few things. First, I have come to the conclusion that Jose Baez is very much like Casey. He does not seem to have the capability to see things past the next corner. He does things in a knee-jerk way and then doesn't see the consequences until they hit him in the face. Anyone else notice this? And another thing. If I have to watch that video of Cindy sitting in that courtroom chewing gum like a cow chewing cud, fingering her mouth like that, I think I'm going to be sick. It is almost as annoying as when Casey does that thing with her mouth, when she is nervous. Third, I heard the TH on NG the other day saying that Baez is "humanizing" his client. Well, I don't care if he is, I think all that outrageous flirting he is doing needs to stop. He and his client need to be told point blank to keep their paws and their eyeballs off each other in public. Also, he continues to align himself with seedy and shady people. Hooking up with this new spokesperson that turns out to be a felon is an unbelievably dumb move.

I am all for colleagues helping colleagues when they are need and giving the guy a kudo for taking on such a difficult and challenging case, however, if he continues on this path he is trodding with reckless abandon, he is going to set himself up for a huge career failure and a conviction for his client.

:seeya: Good to be back, friends!


Welcome back, January!!!!!! :wub:

[Dells]

LOL Cury, good summary...you forgot to add the A's still believe their daughter did not kill caylee.

:scared: Did BC actually say that during the PC? I only caught the tail end of it.

[SavannahStar]

I think privately they have, but they will never make that public. IMO


I think that as well. I didn't hear that they thought Casey was innocent. All I heard was they loved and supported their daughter. That doesn't translate into they think she did not kill Caylee. Well.....we'll see.

[aubrey04]

One thing that I wonder is how he reacts when Cindy insists that Casey is innocent. Does he sit there stone faced? Does he try to make them see reality? I'm really curious about this b/c I think that it is not in their best interests to continue to be in denial. I would want my lawyer to tell it to me straight, so I'm wondering if he is doing that. I noticed that he never says that Casey is innocent, and only that the As think she is. I think this speaks volumes b/c he knows that it's unfortunate that the As aren't seeing reality for what it is.

I think Conway must pretend to believe Casey is innocent or at least sit silent when they proclaim her innocense. There is no way he would have lasted this long with Cindy, if not.

jmo

[playnice]

I hate going to funerals and find every reason not to go unless its a very close family member or friend. I get out asap.
I do not understand why anyone would want to go to a funeral of someone they did not know.:shrug:

[Neffy]

TEAM COVERAGE: Details Revealed For Caylee Anthony Memorial Service
(per Belich the memorial will include one song that will break hearts)
http://www.wftv.com/video/18659916/index.html

I'm glad he has no details. :rolleyes:

[happygert]

You know this pizzes me off to no end... Tim Miller spent over $100,000
dollars looking for Caylee that was 15 houses away from her home... Then the A's treat Him like dirt.. The A's sat back raked in the money hand over fist and could not even donate one FRIGGING BOTTLE OF WATER to the SEARCHERS... Didnt even particapte in a active search.. . WHERE DOES THIS FAMILY get off THINKING EVERYONE OWES THEM SOMETHING? I never disliked anyone as much as I do this FAMILY!!!!!!
He tapped all his resources out for Caylee and this is how he's treated...

Heres something else what did GA do with the $1,500 dollars worth of supplies that Tim sent him after that was donated by KINKOS.. GA didnt bring them back .WHAT did GA do with those supplies?. Tim Had to pay to replace those...

Samething for LENNY... I know alot on here dont like him.......BUT I DO.. He did search for Caylee ( he's done alot more then her own famliy ever did ) he had a MEMORIAL SERVICE for her and IMO MR GRUND was right person to SPEAK...

IMO the A's give everyone a bad name all the stunts they have pulled leaves a bad taste in my mouth... WHAT HAPPENS when no one will come forward to help in the next search for a TRULY MISSING CHILD because of the A's...
JMHO
sorry for my rant..But this is something that tugs at my heart...

[bchand]

So her lawyer sayes she will be found not guilty. He must have a lot of things we don;t know about. Does he have a person in mind that did this to caylee? jmho


It's a secret martha - he's gonna let them roam the streets of Orlando until the trial and his defense drops the bombshell.

[ConchGirl]

I think that as well. I didn't hear that they thought Casey was innocent. All I heard was they loved and supported their daughter. That doesn't translate into they think she did not kill Caylee. Well.....we'll see.

ONE thing we did learn new in the pc was that the bracelet was put there by the family, i.e Cindy.

[happy2bme]

Is this better?

RAW VIDEO: Attorney Reveals Details About Caylee Anthony Memorial Service
http://www.wftv.com/video/18659821/index.html


LOL..Thanks Cury. It is not your links. It is my ancient computer trying to handle high speed internet.:smile:

[Cury-us Coyote]

Caylee Anthony service to feature sad song, heavy security
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/conwaydoors-will-probably-open-sooner-than-9-am-maybe-even-8security-will-be-tight-conway-said-i-dont-want-anybody-dis.html

[eastside joe]

You never can tell what some wacko's will do, guaranteed that there will be nuts with posters around the Church.

JMO

I hope the poster reads

Hey Cindy, Do you believe in Zanny Claus?

as someone stated here earlier today. Great line! IMO

[aubrey04]

Meanwhile, while I was in solitary, I had made some observations of a few things. First, I have come to the conclusion that Jose Baez is very much like Casey. He does not seem to have the capability to see things past the next corner. He does things in a knee-jerk way and then doesn't see the consequences until they hit him in the face. Anyone else notice this? And another thing. If I have to watch that video of Cindy sitting in that courtroom chewing gum like a cow chewing cud, fingering her mouth like that, I think I'm going to be sick. It is almost as annoying as when Casey does that thing with her mouth, when she is nervous. Third, I heard the TH on NG the other day saying that Baez is "humanizing" his client. Well, I don't care if he is, I think all that outrageous flirting he is doing needs to stop. He and his client need to be told point blank to keep their paws and their eyeballs off each other in public. Also, he continues to align himself with seedy and shady people. Hooking up with this new spokesperson that turns out to be a felon is an unbelievably dumb move.

I am all for colleagues helping colleagues when they are need and giving the guy a kudo for taking on such a difficult and challenging case, however, if he continues on this path he is trodding with reckless abandon, he is going to set himself up for a huge career failure and a conviction for his client.

:seeya: Good to be back, friends!

I like it when you're in one of these moods, as opposed to the 'devils advocate' mood. Great post - I agree, January.

I am really against the public memorial but I do hope that everyone can contain their emotions for the sake of Caylee. She doesn't deserve a spectacle being made of her, which I think will happen regardless of how people behave.. but it will go a lot smoother if people take a deep breath and remember this about Caylee, not the vile Anthony's.

[SavannahStar]

ONE thing we did learn new in the pc was that the bracelet was put there by the family, i.e Cindy.


Yes, I did hear that.

[gaelicpeas]

One thing that I wonder is how he reacts when Cindy insists that Casey is innocent. Does he sit there stone faced? Does he try to make them see reality? I'm really curious about this b/c I think that it is not in their best interests to continue to be in denial. I would want my lawyer to tell it to me straight, so I'm wondering if he is doing that. I noticed that he never says that Casey is innocent, and only that the As think she is. I think this speaks volumes b/c he knows that it's unfortunate that the As aren't seeing reality for what it is.Good points, Balesha. It reminds me of the end of the last hearing. Conway said something to Baez, Baez then whispered something to Casey, and I believe Casey nodded. Then, as Casey left the courtroom, the camera panned back to Conway sitting in the aisle for a number of seconds. He was just sitting there, staring at Casey leaving, mouth open. He looked like he had just seen a ghost or something, IMO. It was really odd...

[happy2bme]

I hate going to funerals and find every reason not to go unless its a very close family member or friend. I get out asap.
I do not understand why anyone would want to go to a funeral of someone they did not know.:shrug:


This is not a funeral, it's a memorial. Right?

[spiritwolf46]

It may backfire and only a hundred or so show.

IMO, a memorial service is something personal. I find advertising in press conferences the number of seats available, the security measures in place and certain people will not be allowed to attend is not personal, but a circus. This is not about Caylee. It is about what kind of show Cindy can put on for the public.

jmo

ITA! It is a set up for them and for the Defense. It is like, "We have been threatened, but we will still do this for the public!" BS!

[aubrey04]

Caylee Anthony service to feature sad song, heavy security
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/conwaydoors-will-probably-open-sooner-than-9-am-maybe-even-8security-will-be-tight-conway-said-i-dont-want-anybody-dis.html

I am putting my dibs on "The Dance" by Garth Brooks.

[bchand]

Caylee Anthony service to feature sad song, heavy security
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/conwaydoors-will-probably-open-sooner-than-9-am-maybe-even-8security-will-be-tight-conway-said-i-dont-want-anybody-dis.html

and I hope it's the same song that the prosecution starts and ends with.

[Balesha]

I hate going to funerals and find every reason not to go unless its a very close family member or friend. I get out asap.
I do not understand why anyone would want to go to a funeral of someone they did not know.:shrug:

I have to agree with you on this one. I think it is embarrassing that strangers are attending the memorial. I don't know....I think it's really weird.

Casey, the fugitive? LMAO! Just when I thought Baez couldn't get anymore ridiculous. Heeheehee....

[ConchGirl]

You know this pizzes me off to no end... Tim Miller spent over $100,000
dollars looking for Caylee that was 15 houses away from her home... Then the A's treat Him like dirt.. The A's sat back raked in the money hand over fist and could not even donate one FRIGGING BOTTLE OF WATER to the SEARCHERS... Didnt even particapte in a active search.. . WHERE DOES THIS FAMILY get off THINKING EVERYONE OWES THEM SOMETHING? I never disliked anyone as much as I do this FAMILY!!!!!!
He tapped all his resources out for Caylee and this is how he's treated...

Samething for LENNY... I know alot on here dont like him.......BUT I DO.. He did search for Caylee ( he's done alot more then her own famliy ever did ) he had a MEMORIAL SERVICE for her and IMO MR GRUND was right person to SPEAK...

IMO the A's give everyone a bad name all the stunts they have pulled leaves a bad taste in my mouth... WHAT HAPPENS when no one will come forward to help in the next search for a TRULY MISSING CHILD because of the A's...
JMHO
sorry for my rant..But this is something that tugs at my heart...

ITA, anyone who was not searching for a "live Caylee" is scum in casa de Anthony. I thought the Grund service was beautiful and the only disruption was the Anthony's jmo

[bchand]

I am putting my dibs on "The Dance" by Garth Brooks.

That one doesn't get me as much as some others.

Personally, I thought it was going to be You Are My Sunshine.

[Neffy]

ONE thing we did learn new in the pc was that the bracelet was put there by the family, i.e Cindy.

My guess was kerect.

[Neffy]

That one doesn't get me as much as some others.

Personally, I thought it was going to be You Are My Sunshine.

That I thought would be a given.

[SavannahStar]

did you listen to Conways presser.. he said INNOCENT not loved and supported

I did listen to most of it....I was at work and was seeing it off and on. I will listen again. Maybe I missed it, all I heard was "loved and supported".

[bchand]

One thing that I wonder is how he reacts when Cindy insists that Casey is innocent. Does he sit there stone faced? Does he try to make them see reality? I'm really curious about this b/c I think that it is not in their best interests to continue to be in denial. I would want my lawyer to tell it to me straight, so I'm wondering if he is doing that. I noticed that he never says that Casey is innocent, and only that the As think she is. I think this speaks volumes b/c he knows that it's unfortunate that the As aren't seeing reality for what it is.

Well that's the one thing some of us liked about their former lawyer, NeJame. He made it clear to them that he would not get involved in Casey's case. Obviously, he thought she murdered Caylee.

[5boxersmom]

and I hope it's the same song that the prosecution starts and ends with.

It is probably You are My Sunshine.

jmo

[RN_WV]

You know this pizzes me off to no end... Tim Miller spent over $100,000
dollars looking for Caylee that was 15 houses away from her home... Then the A's treat Him like dirt.. The A's sat back raked in the money hand over fist and could not even donate one FRIGGING BOTTLE OF WATER to the SEARCHERS... Didnt even particapte in a active search.. . WHERE DOES THIS FAMILY get off THINKING EVERYONE OWES THEM SOMETHING? I never disliked anyone as much as I do this FAMILY!!!!!!
He tapped all his resources out for Caylee and this is how he's treated...

Samething for LENNY... I know alot on here dont like him.......BUT I DO.. He did search for Caylee ( he's done alot more then her own famliy ever did ) he had a MEMORIAL SERVICE for her and IMO MR GRUND was right person to SPEAK...

IMO the A's give everyone a bad name all the stunts they have pulled leaves a bad taste in my mouth... WHAT HAPPENS when no one will come forward to help in the next search for a TRULY MISSING CHILD because of the A's...
JMHO
sorry for my rant..But this is something that tugs at my heart...

Great post Happygert
LP and TM did more for this child than most. No good deed goes unpunished.

[kitty1182]

Caylee Anthony service to feature sad song, heavy security
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/02/conwaydoors-will-probably-open-sooner-than-9-am-maybe-even-8security-will-be-tight-conway-said-i-dont-want-anybody-dis.html

Wonder what the song will be.

"Arms of The Angels"
"Closest Thing To Heaven Is A Child"

Those 2 are very sad:sad:

[kitty1182]

It is probably You are My Sunshine.

jmo


I didn't think of that one, you are probally right..

[marshmallow]

I feel like the Anthony's couldn't win no matter what they did or didn't do , it does not matter , nothing , nothing would satisfy anyone , if they both commited suicide there would be TALK that they faked their deaths , to tell you the truth I think they should qualify for some kind of identity change at this point , some protective order to keep them safe.

Since someone said if the Anthony's didn't show up to the public memorial funeral whatever they wouldn't need security .


What is wrong with going into it and all people behaving like human beings ...........? I am sure again it would not matter what the A's do , did ,would have done ,could have done ,should have done in the public's eye ....they will be blasted from here till eternity ......


I guess there just has to be something to talk about , I mean if it weren't this it would be the cheap or expensive flowers , or what someone wore on and on ..............So enlightening it is .


yes here you are right in the fray tossing insults and making mean. Isn't it great that we're all allowed opinions. I respect your's, even if it's only about the posters.

[Pruddennce]

I feel like the Anthony's couldn't win no matter what they did or didn't do , it does not matter , nothing , nothing would satisfy anyone , if they both commited suicide there would be TALK that they faked their deaths , to tell you the truth I think they should qualify for some kind of identity change at this point , some protective order to keep them safe.

Since someone said if the Anthony's didn't show up to the public memorial funeral whatever they wouldn't need security .


What is wrong with going into it and all people behaving like human beings ...........? I am sure again it would not matter what the A's do , did ,would have done ,could have done ,should have done in the public's eye ....they will be blasted from here till eternity ......


I guess there just has to be something to talk about , I mean if it weren't this it would be the cheap or expensive flowers , or what someone wore on and on ..............So enlightening it is .

what should matter to them is burying/cremating, whatever, they choose for Caylee. is it anyone's business? NO. why are we discussing it? because they are making it the public's business.

if they handled this 'sensitive situation' with dignity for the murdered child, in private, there would be no discussion. or banning of phones, or leave your purse at home.

heck, even now the pastor is giving press statements.

holy cannolli......nothing is sacred or meaningful anymore...it all takes on a different meaning when they continue to have a spokesperson deliver 'information to the public about them'.

if they want to be left alone to grieve, why are they inviting the press to partake in a personal matter....and a HUMILIATING matter....their own daughter sits in jail awaiting a trial for the murder of the baby they loved.

Cindy is a disturbed individual....sensationalizing the murder of their granddaughter.

its a travesty.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[sunbunny]

I am putting my dibs on "The Dance" by Garth Brooks.

i was thinking it might be "Angel" by sarah mclaughlin. i can't listen to that song even when i'm NOT at a memorial service. :crying:

[Jessspb]

Please tell me Casey won't be allowed to watch the memorial. How much of a slap in the face to that baby would that be? Mommy gets to watch all the fanfare that she created. Isn't Mommy important! I think Caylee deserves more than that. How can Casey be allowed to watch the mess that she created? She will probably think that how wonderful these people are all showing up for the baby that she created. It will be all about her, her, her. Do you think Casey will think about the last moments of Caylee's life during this memorial? Please don't let her watch.

[Unperson1984]

Paratroll, what you are not seeing is that this is not being done with dignity. Once again, the Anthony's have turned Caylee's death into a circus, not a celebration of her life, but a carnival. It's wrong on every level.

What is the purpose of this "phenomenon" as Conway refers to it? I ask you. And what possible good can come of this.

How does everyone know this will not be done with dignity? Keep in mind that the Pastor of the Church will have a great deal of say in how the service is conducted, so I'm willing to wait until after the service to criticize.

Yesterday everyone believed Cindy was selling rights to show the service and would sell videos of it, and they were wrong. On Tuesday afternoon it will be interesting to see which of the predictions I've read turn out to be fact, and which were simply mean-spirited vitriol.

IMO...of course.

[Tracian]

ONE thing we did learn new in the pc was that the bracelet was put there by the family, i.e Cindy.



You know what I think is really funny? LP said last week 'the braclet was a Cindy thing, but she is willing to let Baez take the fall"

For someone that doesn't know anything 'really' about he A's, he sure gets things right...

[Neffy]

One thing that I wonder is how he reacts when Cindy insists that Casey is innocent. Does he sit there stone faced? Does he try to make them see reality? I'm really curious about this b/c I think that it is not in their best interests to continue to be in denial. I would want my lawyer to tell it to me straight, so I'm wondering if he is doing that. I noticed that he never says that Casey is innocent, and only that the As think she is. I think this speaks volumes b/c he knows that it's unfortunate that the As aren't seeing reality for what it is.

Conway is there backing up Cindy. He's working behind the scenes with Baez working on a defense for Casey. They are standing behind Casey 100%

[5boxersmom]

Maybe George is going to sing Lean on Me again? :shrug:

[Tracian]

How does everyone know this will not be done with dignity? Keep in mind that the Pastor of the Church will have a great deal of say in how the service is conducted, so I'm willing to wait until after the service to criticize.

Yesterday everyone believed Cindy was selling rights to show the service and would sell videos of it, and they were wrong. On Tuesday afternoon it will be interesting to see which of the predictions I've read turn out to be fact, and which were simply mean-spirited vitriol.

IMO...of course.


No one said for sure that videos would be sold...and since nothing has happened yet, you can't say if anyone is wrong about anything yet....

[5boxersmom]

Is Tim Miller really not invited?

[Chelle]

So her lawyer sayes she will be found not guilty. He must have a lot of things we don;t know about. Does he have a person in mind that did this to caylee? jmho

Scott Petersons lawyer said he would be found NOT GUILTY also .

[Chelle]

Is Tim Miller really not invited?

i seriously doubt he is after they called him a thief:(

[kitty1182]

Is Tim Miller really not invited?



If he's not, the A's should be ashamed of themselves...:mad:

[spiritwolf46]

what should matter to them is burying/cremating, whatever, they choose for Caylee. is it anyone's business? NO. why are we discussing it? because they are making it the public's business.

if they handled this 'sensitive situation' with dignity for the murdered child, in private, there would be no discussion. or banning of phones, or leave your purse at home.

heck, even now the pastor is giving press statements.

holy cannolli......nothing is sacred or meaningful anymore...it all takes on a different meaning when they continue to have a spokesperson deliver 'information to the public about them'.

if they want to be left alone to grieve, why are they inviting the press to partake in a personal matter....and a HUMILIATING matter....their own daughter sits in jail awaiting a trial for the murder of the baby they loved.

Cindy is a disturbed individual....sensationalizing the murder of their granddaughter.

its a travesty.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Pru, I love each and every one of your posts and this one is a great post as well!

[WillowInFlight]

Wonder what the song will be.

"Arms of The Angels"
"Closest Thing To Heaven Is A Child"

Those 2 are very sad:sad:

ASPCA has a commercial that plays "Arms of The Angel" and I tear up every time.

[Neffy]

Please tell me Casey won't be allowed to watch the memorial. How much of a slap in the face to that baby would that be? Mommy gets to watch all the fanfare that she created. Isn't Mommy important! I think Caylee deserves more than that. How can Casey be allowed to watch the mess that she created? She will probably think that how wonderful these people are all showing up for the baby that she created. It will be all about her, her, her. Do you think Casey will think about the last moments of Caylee's life during this memorial? Please don't let her watch.

Casey will be watching. Casey will be peppered thru out this service.
If Casey could she'd be spraying sillly string in her honor ala Darlie .

[eastside joe]

How does everyone know this will not be done with dignity? Keep in mind that the Pastor of the Church will have a great deal of say in how the service is conducted, so I'm willing to wait until after the service to criticize.

Yesterday everyone believed Cindy was selling rights to show the service and would sell videos of it, and they were wrong. On Tuesday afternoon it will be interesting to see which of the predictions I've read turn out to be fact, and which were simply mean-spirited vitriol.

IMO...of course.

Where was it stated as fact that they would not sell videos of the service or profit off of it?

[WillowInFlight]

i seriously doubt he is after they called him a thief:(

And a drunk :mad:

[spiritwolf46]

ASPCA has a commercial that plays "Arms of The Angel" and I tear up every time.

OH WILLOW! Me too! I have to change the channel! :crying:

[ConchGirl]

what should matter to them is burying/cremating, whatever, they choose for Caylee. is it anyone's business? NO. why are we discussing it? because they are making it the public's business.

if they handled this 'sensitive situation' with dignity for the murdered child, in private, there would be no discussion. or banning of phones, or leave your purse at home.

heck, even now the pastor is giving press statements.

holy cannolli......nothing is sacred or meaningful anymore...it all takes on a different meaning when they continue to have a spokesperson deliver 'information to the public about them'.

if they want to be left alone to grieve, why are they inviting the press to partake in a personal matter....and a HUMILIATING matter....their own daughter sits in jail awaiting a trial for the murder of the baby they loved.

Cindy is a disturbed individual....sensationalizing the murder of their granddaughter.

its a travesty.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

According to BC Cindy has been doing nothing but planning this event with no thought about a private service while Caylee is still at the funeral home. I have tried to have sympathy for her but I think private would come first and then public. But I'm not Cindy, thanks be to God. jmo

[kitty1182]

ASPCA has a commercial that plays "Arms of The Angel" and I tear up every time.

I know..I got where I will mute the tv when it comes on..:sad:

I forgot who sung Closet Thing To Heaven Is A Child..That's a beautiful one too...The Oak Ridge Boys?

[Chelle]

i'm watching Conways PC and him talking about the family put the bracelet in the clothes but they didn't know they weren't suppose to. BULL, they would have just put it in a pocket but instead they hid it in the socks. they knew it was wrong IMO

[aubrey04]

I hate going to funerals and find every reason not to go unless its a very close family member or friend. I get out asap.
I do not understand why anyone would want to go to a funeral of someone they did not know.:shrug:

I don't get it either. I am the same way - I despise funerals. I don't see why anyone would want to go either. It is strange. I wonder if all the seats will actually fill up. Conway wants to open the doors hours before the memorial starts, so he obviously thinks tons of people are going to show.

[Unperson1984]

Where was it stated as fact that they would not sell videos of the service or profit off of it?

How do you sell something that is free to everyone?

BTW Is there a list of who is not allowed to attend?

[kitty1182]

They should be anyways, kitty
IMO

I will agree...To ban anyone who wants to pay their respects is a little low to me..imo

[Tracian]

How do you sell something that is free to everyone?

BTW Is there a list of who is not allowed to attend?


Conway said that there is not a list that they will release, those not invited know who they are and security knows who they are.

[SavannahStar]

well he was quite clear, they have not changed their opinion and they think their daughter is "innocent"


Can you tell me where in that PC that was stated? I just listened to the entire thing (from the link posted earlier on the thread here) and I did not hear the word "innocent." I heard, as I heard earlier, they "loved and supported" their daughter.....it was when Conway said that they had put the bracelet in her clothes, not Baez.

Let me know where that is stated and I'll take a listen again. TIA.

[Neffy]

I don't get it either. I am the same way - I despise funerals. I don't see why anyone would want to go either. It is strange. I wonder if all the seats will actually fill up. Conway wants to open the doors hours before the memorial starts, so he obviously thinks tons of people are going to show.

This is a production remember. IMO they've asked neighboring congregations to help fill these seats hence the over flow they're claiming to be needed.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Kid Finders Network - House of Purpose
http://www.thehouseofpurpose.com/

[aubrey04]

Sorry..maybe you missed it..This is a Memorial not a funeral..and is a service to remember the victim in this case......and only those that wish to rmember this wee child..victim ..need attend..and even then only if they feel the need...I am a huge distance away..and have no desire to attend as I started my goodbyes back when i realized she was passed ( July)..when cadavour dogs caught the scent..but that is just me...and for yourself..there's no need to attend, watch or express your feelings..thats up to you..

However, there were thousands of local people who got involved personally with this search for a missing child. (Caylee).and that child's remains (Caylee) were found and identified..so now wish they can say their goodbyes in such a memorial service...plain and simple..its not just voyeurism here..but a true need for some to express their feelings of closure .:mellow:

LMS

I completely disagree with your post. I think the audience will mostly consist of gawkers and it will make more of a spectacle of Caylee's death than what is already going on. If the memorial service was 10 feet away - I wouldn't step foot in that building.

I am not going to lie - I will probably watch during the live streaming, so my stance is most likely very hypocritical.. but I stand by my opinion. The public memorial service is a bad idea, imo.

[Unperson1984]

Conway said that there is not a list that they will release, those not invited know who they are and security knows who they are.

How do my fellow posters know who is on the list?

[marshmallow]

I mentioned this earlier and it's still on my mind. With George's recent mental health issues, can this really be good for him? I hope this production doesn't push him over the edge again. He will have been out for appx a week and still is emotionally tender. This large scale media event Cindy's putting on may not be in his best interests. I worry about his sanity. I think that should be front and center not this publicity seeking specticle

[kitty1182]

Kid Finders Network - House of Purpose
http://www.thehouseofpurpose.com/



No comment..lol:biggrin:

[bchand]

Please tell me Casey won't be allowed to watch the memorial. How much of a slap in the face to that baby would that be? Mommy gets to watch all the fanfare that she created. Isn't Mommy important! I think Caylee deserves more than that. How can Casey be allowed to watch the mess that she created? She will probably think that how wonderful these people are all showing up for the baby that she created. It will be all about her, her, her. Do you think Casey will think about the last moments of Caylee's life during this memorial? Please don't let her watch.

She gets 1 hr of tv a day and the memorial may last 2 hrs. so she definitely can't watch the entire thing.

[bama__angel]

I don't think it would fit. It's about suicide.



Was just gonna say that Jan...............

[WillowInFlight]

Conway makes my skin crawl

he looks like he's loving his 15 minutes barf

and whats up with him bringing the "troops" into the mix... what makes him think that those brave men and women would want to be compared to a frickin baby killer!

the dude needs to go away :thumbdown:

I never thought i would say this but i miss Nejame!

Does anyone know why he is in a wheelchair?

[Balesha]

THs on HNN Prime News saying that Baez is not doing a good job representing Casey. They all agree that his Fugitive reference is ridiculous. They also all agreed that saying that "Casey looks guilty, but really isn't" is not gonna fly. It really is stupid to admit that your client looks guilty. Throwing it "but she's not" is not gonna help. LOL.
:tonguewag:

[Unperson1984]

Conway makes my skin crawl

he looks like he's loving his 15 minutes barf

and whats up with him bringing the "troops" into the mix... what makes him think that those brave men and women would want to be compared to a frickin baby killer!

the dude needs to go away :thumbdown:

I never thought i would say this but i miss Nejame!

Did you hear him compare our Service Members to Casey?

[daHawg]

Conway makes my skin crawl

he looks like he's loving his 15 minutes barf

and whats up with him bringing the "troops" into the mix... what makes him think that those brave men and women would want to be compared to a frickin baby killer!

the dude needs to go away :thumbdown:

I never thought i would say this but i miss Nejame!My son is Special Forces and I would be banned if I repeated what he has to say about Casey.:sneaky:

[bama__angel]

Does anyone know why he is in a wheelchair?



Because he cant walk..............

[Jessspb]

They say that Casey won't be treated any differently than any other inmate. Well, if she gets to watch the Memorial, she will be treated differently because the average woman accused of murdering her daughter wouldn't have the opporunity to watch the memorial on tv because it wouldn't be on tv. Casey shouldn't benefit due to the fact the she is now "famous" for what people suspect . . strongly suspect . . that she has done to her beautiful Caylee. I say she is being treated differently. Can someone just say no to Casey please!!!!!!

[Tracian]

How do my fellow posters know who is on the list?



Lois was told via email she would not be welcome to attend a memorial. Lenny has made mention that he is not welcome on NG. Tim has been berated by the A's, though I don't know if he has ever made mention if he was invited or not.

The rest is basically throwing thoughts out as to who the A's have made negative comments about.

[ConchGirl]

Kid Finders Network - House of Purpose
http://www.thehouseofpurpose.com/

http://www.wftv.com/video/18001358/index.html

As a poster stated earlier today that since Kid Finders can't find children they want people to bring children to them. Help. :chicken:

[marshmallow]

No comment..lol:biggrin:

I'll also reframe from comment.
But it scares me a little.

[SavannahStar]

Does anyone know why he is in a wheelchair?

Someone posted the other day it was a surfing accident years ago, IIRC.

[kitty1182]

They say that Casey won't be treated any differently than any other inmate. Well, if she gets to watch the Memorial, she will be treated differently because the average woman accused of murdering her daughter wouldn't have the opporunity to watch the memorial on tv because it wouldn't be on tv. Casey shouldn't benefit due to the fact the she is now "famous" for what people suspect . . strongly suspect . . that she has done to her beautiful Caylee. I say she is being treated differently. Can someone just say no to Casey please!!!!!!

I figure JB will take his laptop in and watch it on line with her..:rolleyes:

[SavannahStar]

Brenda Van Dam's sister did a beautiful slide show tribute to little Danielle around the time of her funeral. They used that song in the background. When someone brought up that the song was about a person contemplating committing suicide, she changed the song to something more appropriate. So I wonder if the people that do the ASPCA commercial realize that? Guess not.

I am sure if Cindy is in charge of the music selection, she is going to choose something that will be dramatic, because that's her way. Drama.

I LOVE that song, but I'll admit I never realized it was about suicide! :ohmy:

[WillowInFlight]

Brenda Van Dam's sister did a beautiful slide show tribute to little Danielle around the time of her funeral. They used that song in the background. When someone brought up that the song was about a person contemplating committing suicide, she changed the song to something more appropriate. So I wonder if the people that do the ASPCA commercial realize that? Guess not.

I am sure if Cindy is in charge of the music selection, she is going to choose something that will be dramatic, because that's her way. Drama.

WOW, I didn't know it was about suicide, it is truly a beautiful song though.

[kitty1182]

Someone posted the other day it was a surfing accident years ago, IIRC.

That's what I recall too..

[Sandy]

All this incredibly thankless , angry & dishonest behavior by the" A's would encourage many to boycott the "public memorial". I think Cindy , Casey & their attorneys will use this to confuse, insult & generally create confusion. I think most should have moments of silence , a personal prayer to God,blessing for Caylee. Caylee's body will not be at that Public Show & neither will her soul. How can one claim to love your child or grandchild& deny the horrible injustice& murder that has been committed?

[WillowInFlight]

Someone posted the other day it was a surfing accident years ago, IIRC.

Thanks Savannah. :wub:

[kitty1182]

I LOVE that song, but I'll admit I never realized it was about suicide! :ohmy:

I didn't either...:confused:

[daHawg]

I figure JB will take his laptop in and watch it on line with her..:rolleyes:Well he better not comment at all about her reaction to the memorial then because you know what he says anytime someone asks him about her. It's not appropriate for him to comment on how she is that it is private yaddax3. :sneaky:

[SavannahStar]

Did you hear him compare our Service Members to Casey?


He didn't. He said (paraphrased) that she was innocent until proven guilty, she has a right to a trial, and those rights that we have in the United States are what our troops are fighting for. Our rights. I didn't hear any comparison between Casey and our troops! OMG, I'd be hot about that, myself! :angry:

[happygert]

ITA, anyone who was not searching for a "live Caylee" is scum in casa de Anthony. I thought the Grund service was beautiful and the only disruption was the Anthony's jmo

Exactly! Do they think they'd have a repeat of how they acted... IMO LP TM and THE GRUNDS have more class in there little fingers Then all the a's put together... They have shown more respect for Caylee then all them put together......jmo

[Neffy]

Conway makes my skin crawl

he looks like he's loving his 15 minutes barf

and whats up with him bringing the "troops" into the mix... what makes him think that those brave men and women would want to be compared to a frickin baby killer!

the dude needs to go away :thumbdown:

I never thought i would say this but i miss Nejame!

NeJame refused to work on behalf of Casey unlike Conway.

I don't think we have troops fighting to give rights to people who kill and stuff their child in their trunk to drive down the street and drag them in the woods.

[happygert]

Great post Happygert
LP and TM did more for this child than most. No good deed goes unpunished.

No it sure doesn't....

[marshmallow]

They say that Casey won't be treated any differently than any other inmate. Well, if she gets to watch the Memorial, she will be treated differently because the average woman accused of murdering her daughter wouldn't have the opporunity to watch the memorial on tv because it wouldn't be on tv. Casey shouldn't benefit due to the fact the she is now "famous" for what people suspect . . strongly suspect . . that she has done to her beautiful Caylee. I say she is being treated differently. Can someone just say no to Casey please!!!!!!



in my opinion the only reason it is on tv is so Casey can watch it. The request for private time for the family to hold a service was a no-go. This is the next best thing... a whole show for Casey to see so she and her parents can fool themselves into thinking the people who show up to honor Caylee are there to support Casey. They'll be able to say "see what we did for you Casey" . I


Earlier today I mentioned that I'd read the report of someone (an inmate or a guard)saying Casey was <allegedly> heard loudly reciting the Lord's Prayer from her cell. I truely hope beyond hope that there is no tape of her played during this show Cindy's doing. I don't think that Baez can tape her voice while she's in jail but if he can I hope he hasn't.


Regardless of what Cindy and Casey and Baez think, Casey is the only person who is accused of taking this child's life and in fact causing this memorial. It needs to be about Caylee and only Caylee and that Casey is left out of it all. I really hope that it is about Caylee, she is the victim.

unfortunately I think it won't be.

[Tracian]

He didn't. He said (paraphrased) that she was innocent until proven guilty, she has a right to a trial, and those rights that we have in the United States are what our troops are fighting for. Our rights. I didn't hear any comparison between Casey and our troops! OMG, I'd be hot about that, myself! :angry:


He did say something about honoring our troops by considering that Casey is innocent until proven guilty.

[sunbunny]

OH WILLOW! Me too! I have to change the channel! :crying:

even my hubby quickly changes the channel when that commercial comes on. we can't grab the remote fast enough. :crying:

i do think that would be the perfect song at the memorial, IMO.

[bchand]

I'm wondering if Kathy Belich made the list? She's so good at her job, IMO, and the A's and Baez probably hate her. I think it would be a HUGE mistake to have her on such a list, but I won't be shocked if it happens.

IIRC Cindy said they had buried the hatchet. Also if Kathi's station is covering it, I doubt Cindy could keep her out.

[happygert]

Please tell me Casey won't be allowed to watch the memorial. How much of a slap in the face to that baby would that be? Mommy gets to watch all the fanfare that she created. Isn't Mommy important! I think Caylee deserves more than that. How can Casey be allowed to watch the mess that she created? She will probably think that how wonderful these people are all showing up for the baby that she created. It will be all about her, her, her. Do you think Casey will think about the last moments of Caylee's life during this memorial? Please don't let her watch.

IMO she will see it one way or the other ...either on live tv or by laptop..compliments of baez....

[WillowInFlight]

IIRC Cindy said they had buried the hatchet. Also if Kathi's station is covering it, I doubt Cindy could keep her out.

I wonder if Geraldo will be there?

[kitty1182]

Well he better not comment at all about her reaction to the memorial then because you know what he says anytime someone asks him about her. It's not appropriate for him to comment on how she is that it is private yaddax3. :sneaky:

That's right:wink:

[bama__angel]

even my hubby quickly changes the channel when that commercial comes on. we can't grab the remote fast enough. :crying:

i do think that would be the perfect song at the memorial, IMO.



Maybe Caylee had favorite songs that we dont know about.....she was almost 3...she probably loved listening to cd's in the car and at home............Cindy knows her songs I'm sure..........

[Lapis]

well he was quite clear, they have not changed their opinion and they think their daughter is "innocent"

Not to sound like a lawyer but the complete statement was that she is innocent in the eyes of the law. Elsewhere he stated that they do not know what happened at this pont no one does and they are waiting for the proofs. JMO

[playnice]

I thought we were supposed to get a doc dump this week. Maybe they are holding off until after Tuesday.

[Jessspb]

Marshmallow . . I agree about the memorial being for Casey to be able to watch.

Seeing Casey in court smiling and laughing and playing with a pen like a schoolgirl with a crush makes me sick. I can't stand the thought of her sitting in jail watching this tremendous affair on tv. If they have pictures of her and Caylee in happier days looking like a typical loving mom and daughter shown on the big screen in the church, then I will absolutely want to scream!! :sad:

[happy2bme]

I'm wondering if Kathy Belich made the list? She's so good at her job, IMO, and the A's and Baez probably hate her. I think it would be a HUGE mistake to have her on such a list, but I won't be shocked if it happens.



How totally insane is it that you have to make a 'list' to attend a memorial? This is not Studio 54.

Regardless of what the A's think...this baby has actually captured the hearts of many, no matter what is thought of Casey & the A's. That should be the very LAST thing on their minds.

You would think they would be touched that so many people care instead of who is on the damn list.:angry:

[bchand]

Not to sound like a lawyer but the complete statement was that she is innocent in the eyes of the law. Elsewhere he stated that they do not know what happened at this pont no one does and they are waiting for the proofs. JMO

Well thank you Lapis. That would certainly be different than saying they still believe she is innocent.

[Diney]

So the univited list is down to those who do not support CA- whether they cared about Caylee or not. Already losing the focus of Caylee and it is only Friday. Just when I thought it could not get any worse-
IMO


You know what I wish? I wish there would be full attendance for Caylee at the Memorial, but if they make the mistake of turning it into anything favorable to Casey, the folks would just quietly get up and walk out of the door.

I think that would say a lot. IMO

[martha]

i was thinking it might be "Angel" by sarah mclaughlin. i can't listen to that song even when i'm NOT at a memorial service. :crying:
Oh I love that sone and she sings it so pretty. I have tryed to find the cd of this song but for some reason I can;t find it. I cry everytime I hear it.jmho

[martha]

You know what I wish? I wish there would be full attendance for Caylee at the Memorial, but if they make the mistake of turning it into anything favorable to Casey, the folks would just quietly get up and walk out of the door.

I think that would say a lot. IMO ITA with you this is what the people need to do if it is not about caylee and caylee only.jmho

[Motomom]

I feel like the Anthony's couldn't win no matter what they did or didn't do , it does not matter , nothing , nothing would satisfy anyone , if they both commited suicide there would be TALK that they faked their deaths , to tell you the truth I think they should qualify for some kind of identity change at this point , some protective order to keep them safe.

snipped

What is wrong with going into it and all people behaving like human beings ...........?


.


I do not believe that the A's have been threatened with physical violence. I believe that they get hate mail, but I do not believe threats, and we have never seen proof of this either. I do not believe they are in any danger at a memorial for their daughter. I do agree though that nothing they do would satisfy. Either way.

I also agree with what you sad about going into it and people behaving like humans.. (funny cause I always tell people I'm teaching my kids how to be human). I do not believe that people would go that distance to offend. You may have a trashy person here or there, but I think it's doubtful. Most people do act human and I think they would at this little girls memorial.

[SavannahStar]

He did say something about honoring our troops by considering that Casey is innocent until proven guilty.


because her rights to a fair trial (which assumes innocent until proven guilty) are what our troops are fighting for....

Well I'm sure he knows in his heart that falls on deaf ears. And I understand the way people feel. I believe she is guilty.....but glad she is getting what I know will be a fair trial.

I really didn't find him offensive in any way.

[martha]

ITA Jess. If the A's can ban people, then maybe we can e mail the jail to protest against casey watching.
jmo
I don;t understand why the a;s would want to ban anyone that wanted to show their love and respect for caylee. This is about caylee not them.jmho

[Jessspb]

Oh Diney . . . I like your idea about people quietly getting up and walking out if the memorial turns into a "Casey loving mother" ceremony. That would be a respectable way to speak volumes!

[ConchGirl]

I wonder if Geraldo will be there?

I'm sure he's on the invited list because he is favorable to the defense. jmo

[kitty1182]

You know what I wish? I wish there would be full attendance for Caylee at the Memorial, but if they make the mistake of turning it into anything favorable to Casey, the folks would just quietly get up and walk out of the door.

I think that would say a lot. IMO

Amen.............

[SavannahStar]

That's not the entire press conference

I watched it on HLN not online and he continues to talk

I'm sure there's a link available somewhere, maybe someone will come up with it? I know he did continue to talk.....I listened to that part at work. But I sure missed where he said the Anthonys believe Casey is innocent.

[ConchGirl]

I don;t understand why the a;s would want to ban anyone that wanted to show their love and respect for caylee. This is about caylee not them.jmho

You are so right Martha. In all my years on this earth I have attended numerous memorials/benefits and I have never heard of a "not invited" list. The only person who should be uninvited is the murderer. I hope Cindy checks into to Halifax next to get some help. jmo

[5boxersmom]

Kid Finders Network - House of Purpose
http://www.thehouseofpurpose.com/

Why is it only for girls? Creepy is you ask me.:wink:

jmo

[SavannahStar]

Not to sound like a lawyer but the complete statement was that she is innocent in the eyes of the law. Elsewhere he stated that they do not know what happened at this pont no one does and they are waiting for the proofs. JMO

Well that's the only part I heard "innocent" used. When talking about the Anthonys I only heard "love and support" their daughter.

[SavannahStar]

well I'm not the only person in this thread who said they heard it and i don't have a link to the one i watched so i guess we'll have to agree to disagree

That's never a problem.

I really do hope however someone can come up with a link to the full thing and point out where (minutes into the video) that is said.

[happy2bme]

because her rights to a fair trial (which assumes innocent until proven guilty) are what our troops are fighting for....

Well I'm sure he knows in his heart that falls on deaf ears. And I understand the way people feel. I believe she is guilty.....but glad she is getting what I know will be a fair trial.

I really didn't find him offensive in any way.

I understand what you are saying. Thank you.:smile:

[aubrey04]

I guess you can disagree with my post, however..not sure you realy in trully read my words, and just what I was responding to..Anyway..no probs...I am way far away, and already done my goodbyes..and wont be watching this service either..but my point was this is a memorial..not a funeral..please refer to the post I was responding to..

My wish is that gawkers, ( your words) and yahoo's (my words) stay away..as this should be a reverant event..But who knows Aubrey??

LMS:huh:

Actually, I did read both posts, Lynda.. and I responded. Regardless, I hope the same thing - I hope both types stay away and this memorial is quiet, peaceful and not making more of a spectacle out of Caylee (and George).

:seeya:

[Pruddennce]

Pru, I love each and every one of your posts and this one is a great post as well!

spirit, you are admired. ;)

is this insanity? IMO, this 'feels' like it is all happening in some other dimension. an ordinary child, murdered, and the mother is arrested for her murder, and the family is beating the drum as if THAT part of their life doesnt exist and are not the least bit embarrassed by that fact. its now been watered down to 'an event'.

I would be inconsolable in this situation. lay the baby to rest in private and let the world 'imagine' their grief. that is more real than a public spectator event cindy is planning.

she cant resist the spotlight. for once, I see that Casey's excited utterance in her jailhouse call was right on the mark: *she learned from the best and did not want to be trumped*:

Casey: I just saw your nice little cameo on TV."

"Which one," Cindy Anthony said.

"What do you mean, which one?" Casey Anthony said.

"Which one?" Cindy Anthony said. "I did four different ones, and I haven't seen them all. I've only seen one or two so far."

and people thought Cindy would fade away? from student to master those words flowed. battle of the psychopaths.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16993169/detail.html

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[CC I See]

I am wondering if Baez just might change Casey's defense strategy since the Nanny story doesn't work any longer. Could they be planning on blaming someone else close to home.... maybe throwing Lee or the Antonys under the bus? I would not be surprised.

[bchand]

Why is it only for girls? Creepy is you ask me.:wink:

jmo

and only "teen" girls - you know from age 12 ? to 18.

They make everything they get involved with creepy.

[aubrey04]

I guess we will find out tonight on NG.

I am sure we will. :blink:

[Tracian]

well I'm not the only person in this thread who said they heard it and i don't have a link to the one i watched so i guess we'll have to agree to disagree


The way I remember it was "She's innocent" then he said that C and G love and support their daughter, then he went into is speal about the military and innocent until proven guilty...

[kitty1182]

I am wondering if Baez just might change Casey's defense strategy since the Nanny story doesn't work any longer. Could they be planning on blaming someone else close to home.... maybe throwing Lee or the Antonys under the bus? I would not be surprised.

That's what I'm thinking...

[SavannahStar]

I understand what you are saying. Thank you.:smile:

Well thank you. Obviously his words have been misinterpreted by some.

[Pretty Leaf]

Rick won't be invited.

[happy2bme]

spirit, you are admired. ;)

is this insanity? IMO, this 'feels' like it is all happening in some other dimension. an ordinary child, murdered, and the mother is arrested for her murder, and the family is beating the drum as if THAT part of their life doesnt exist and are not the least bit embarrassed by that fact. its now been watered down to 'an event'.

I would be inconsolable in this situation. lay the baby to rest in private and let the world 'imagine' their grief. that is more real than a public spectator event cindy is planning.

she cant resist the spotlight. for once, I see that Casey's excited utterance in her jailhouse call was right on the mark: *she learned from the best and did not want to be trumped*:

Casey: I just saw your nice little cameo on TV."

"Which one," Cindy Anthony said.

"What do you mean, which one?" Casey Anthony said.

"Which one?" Cindy Anthony said. "I did four different ones, and I haven't seen them all. I've only seen one or two so far."

and people thought Cindy would fade away? from student to master those words flowed. battle of the psychopaths.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16993169/detail.html

IMO

best regards,
Pru

DISGUSTING, and while that baby is in a trash bag not even a mile away. Who does that?:unsure:

[5boxersmom]

Seeing ZG on JVM just now reminded me of something.

When BC came out saying George didn't get a job because of who he is and then he tried to kill himself. I was thinking that might help ZG case, because she is saying she can't get a job because of her name.

Maybe BC shouldn't have said that.

jmo

[WillowInFlight]

But is there room for everyone ?

Maybe they can put a wide screen TV outside for the people that can't fit in the church.

[kitty1182]

Brad Conway..Is this the one ya'll are looking for?



http://www.wesh.com/video/18659712/index.html

[CC I See]

Maybe they can put a wide screen TV outside for the people that can't fit in the church....yes, that way the vendors and those hawking souvenirs can watch.

[ConchGirl]

I am wondering if Baez just might change Casey's defense strategy since the Nanny story doesn't work any longer. Could they be planning on blaming someone else close to home.... maybe throwing Lee or the Antonys under the bus? I would not be surprised.

No, the invisible one armed Nanny killed Caylee.

[Pretty Leaf]

Wonder what the song will be.

"Arms of The Angels"
"Closest Thing To Heaven Is A Child"

Those 2 are very sad:sad:


Bettcha 'Tears in Heaven" will be played . Eric Clampton losing his son in an awful accident. Seems the Anthony's would feel they can related to that.

[Motomom]

Hi, Martha. The way I see it, this is not a memorial service, it's a wedding with Cindy at the helm. That is why they can rent Madison Square Garden, ban people, make a list of "invitees" and control who brings what into the mix (purses, cellphones, etc.) and if you ask me, the reason they don't want cellphones, cameras or any recording devices is because THEY are the ones that want to be able to sell "exclusive" copy to the media and nobody else. I guaranty there will be a film crew in there or a professional still photographer shooting the entire ceremony and who's who in the audience, and it won't be long before some tv station or magazine will spend an insane amount of money for the photos. Either this money will go directly to the Anthony's for their bills or to the dream team for Casey's defense fund.

By the way, I was appalled the other night when I heard on Nancy Grace that the bill for her defense is going to run in the millions and that the taxpayers of not only Florida but the entire country will be footing that bill.


Not following how we'll be paying for her defense. I thought she was paying for it, via pictures and videos, I'm sure an exclusive interview will be up and coming..eventually.

Just want to share my opinion. This is "just" a memorial. I don't want that to sound bad, but didn't R. Grunde speak at another memorial for Caylee? Video was there. The A's are making a producton of it. Some may be necessary, others not so much. Her remains will not be there, no little casket to photo.. I have no problems with them airing this memorial and I will be watching it. Everyone surmising that they wll sell bracelets, and whatever else has been posted, I won't believe that until I see it. I don't believe any family would do that.. and I hope I'm not wrong. Over the course of the day, my nerves are shot, I'm in No mood LOL.. and I find myself getting angry with the A's after hearing that her body has been released and yet it has not been buried or cremated.. THIS memorial, could have happened at any time in the last month and a half. Now I'm starting to think that either they will do it quietly, privately and not make the media aware at all until it is over and done with. Her funeral that is. this isn't her funeral. This isn't her goodbye, because she is still in a box in a funeral parlor. I hope that the A's dont' think the public will remain silent, if they never hear of a proper burial or cremation. I hope they don't think they can hold off until after the trial.. I'm just starting to think that.. and I hope they aren't. And only time will tell who makes money.. if a funeral is done in absolute private and a casket picture shows up..I'll believe then all that others have said about the As.

Sorry for being so long

[Tracian]

But is there room for everyone ?


Conway never said that room was the issue.

[caphill]

If I can take the liberty of copy and paste, I think this post by Pru answers your question-----------

Originally Posted by Pruddennce
what should matter to them is burying/cremating, whatever, they choose for Caylee. is it anyone's business? NO. why are we discussing it? because they are making it the public's business.

if they handled this 'sensitive situation' with dignity for the murdered child, in private, there would be no discussion. or banning of phones, or leave your purse at home.

heck, even now the pastor is giving press statements.

holy cannolli......nothing is sacred or meaningful anymore...it all takes on a different meaning when they continue to have a spokesperson deliver 'information to the public about them'.

if they want to be left alone to grieve, why are they inviting the press to partake in a personal matter....and a HUMILIATING matter....their own daughter sits in jail awaiting a trial for the murder of the baby they loved.

Cindy is a disturbed individual....sensationalizing the murder of their granddaughter.

its a travesty.

IMO

best regards,
Pru



What did you think of the memorial service for Samantha Runnion? 5,500 people showed up and it was televised. Did you criticize that as sensationalizing or was that just a beautiful service to memorialize a beautiful child.

[Tracian]

Bettcha 'Tears in Heaven" will be played . Eric Clampton losing his son in an awful accident. Seems the Anthony's would feel they can related to that.


Is that the song with the lyrics something like this:

''Will you know my face, when I meet you in heaven"

I know that song makes me cry every time I hear it...as 'Season's in the Sun'

[CC I See]

Maybe they can have a lazer light show and some fireworks going off as well.... we think ALIKE. This would be great for sales of the video.

[ConchGirl]

Bettcha 'Tears in Heaven" will be played . Eric Clampton losing his son in an awful accident. Seems the Anthony's would feel they can related to that.

I love that song but it was an accident not murder. jmo

[Motomom]

I am wondering if Baez just might change Casey's defense strategy since the Nanny story doesn't work any longer. Could they be planning on blaming someone else close to home.... maybe throwing Lee or the Antonys under the bus? I would not be surprised.

I wanted to ask a similar question. When deciding on a defense, do they sit around a table suggesting things? I'm under the impression that they have to go by what her last statements to LE were and that is about the nanny? Now do they add on? Also, I am not sure how to ask the question, but I thought that say Casey told Baez that she killed Caylee, he cannot put her on the stand and ask her that question, if she intends on lieing correct? Does that go for all of his witnesses? I hope I'm explaining it right.

[daHawg]

What did you think of the memorial service for Samantha Runnion? 5,500 people showed up and it was televised. Did you criticize that as sensationalizing or was that just a beautiful service to memorialize a beautiful child.Um, they didn't have metal detectors, security teams searching people, a not invited list etc etc etc.......

[Lapis]

uhhh did you listen to the ENTIRE press conference?

or are you gonna do another AMSCOT?

I listened to the raw video. A reporter asked a question and the answer was the one I gave. Try to listen to the questions and the entire answers instead of pulling out a few words. The context is important. JMO

[Motomom]

and only "teen" girls - you know from age 12 ? to 18.

They make everything they get involved with creepy.

I'm all about kidfinders being creepy and all, dont' get me wrong..

But I think an all girls shelter is much more acceptable than a mixed one. Young girls, that you have no idea what they have went through, should not be put in any kind of situation with potentional of harm IMO. 12 yr old girls, shouldn't be mixed in wth 18 yr old boys IMO.

[WillowInFlight]

Maybe they can have a lazer light show and some fireworks going off as well.

You know what I was thinking, and I am totally serious, I think it would be really neat for all that attend, after the service they all release balloons. I think they did something like that at one of the vigils.

[5boxersmom]

What did you think of the memorial service for Samantha Runnion? 5,500 people showed up and it was televised. Did you criticize that as sensationalizing or was that just a beautiful service to memorialize a beautiful child.

Did Samantha's mother tell certain people they could not come? Or get on tv and lie? Make money off of her? Talk bad about the searchers?

Blame everyone but the murderer?

I also believe that little Samantha was laid to rest right after the memorial and was not still laying at the funeral home.

jmo

[Tracian]

What did you think of the memorial service for Samantha Runnion? 5,500 people showed up and it was televised. Did you criticize that as sensationalizing or was that just a beautiful service to memorialize a beautiful child.

It really hinges on how this service is handled. Right now, it seems that Cindy is not inviting people to a public service that had the nerve to look for a 'dead Caylee' and have been very public about their feelings in regards to Casey's innocents.

I agree, that if someone wants to show up there just to cause a scene, they should not go...but to use Caylee's memorial as a way to 'punish' those that do not walk lock step with her belief system is wrong, this is about those that loved Caylee, like the Grunds, and the countless people that took this little girl into their hearts.

[WillowInFlight]

Same here. You are my sunshine. We sang that to our kids all the time as they were growing up. Even now occasionally.

We did and do to this day too. LOL

[Tracian]

Well its obvious that 3000 people won't fit in the church ..............the fire marshall has a limit of how many people can fit in a building ....are you saying because Conway didn't point this feature out that its okay to take it to a different level ?


According to reports, the capacity of the church is over 5000.

Brad Conway, the attorney representing Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said the memorial service will be held at 10 a.m. at the First Baptist Church of Orlando, which holds more than 5,000 people

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29042396/

[Motomom]

Um, they didn't have metal detectors, security teams searching people, a not invited list etc etc etc.......

I didn't see her memorial.. However are you sure there wasn't security of some sort? 5500 is alot of people. And who knows if they had an uninvite list. They may not have made something lke that public. How the A's made it public cracks me up.. reminds me of when a poster wants to put someone one ignore and makes a point to post that such and such is going on ignore.. you know haha.. nanni nanni boo boo.

[Pruddennce]

Can you tell me where in that PC that was stated? I just listened to the entire thing (from the link posted earlier on the thread here) and I did not hear the word "innocent." I heard, as I heard earlier, they "loved and supported" their daughter.....it was when Conway said that they had put the bracelet in her clothes, not Baez.

Let me know where that is stated and I'll take a listen again. TIA.

a video pool and still photography pool?

security threats and they engage in this?

what?

spending most of their efforts on the public service? to thank everyone? what? you invite people to pray as a thank you?

oh there you go, a freebee spectacle: paid for by anonymous donors. no wonder it took so long to 'get it together'.....they had NO MONEY to put a show on, but now they do.

so they are not burying her, although they are free to do so. Caylee is secondary. the public comes first.

unbelieveable.

Conway: *She IS innocent. She is innocent until proven guilty.*

15:13

http://www.wftv.com/video/18659821/index.html

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[spiritwolf46]

Seeing ZG on JVM just now reminded me of something.

When BC came out saying George didn't get a job because of who he is and then he tried to kill himself. I was thinking that might help ZG case, because she is saying she can't get a job because of her name.

Maybe BC shouldn't have said that.

jmo


OOOOOoooo! GREAT catch!!!

[daHawg]

I didn't see her memorial.. However are you sure there wasn't security of some sort? 5500 is alot of people. And who knows if they had an uninvite list. They may not have made something lke that public. How the A's made it public cracks me up.. reminds me of when a poster wants to put someone one ignore and makes a point to post that such and such is going on ignore.. you know haha.. nanni nanni boo boo.
Oh I am sure they had security as far as crowd control but as far as searching every person before they entered the church no way. I did watch the memorial and it was an open and heartfelt service. Sadly I am not feeling this one is going to be the same. I hope it is but it just doesn't have the same feeling surrounding it when you have all the reports of metal detectors, threats, searches, rules, no this no that just does feel the same. IMO.

[Motomom]

It really hinges on how this service is handled. Right now, it seems that Cindy is not inviting people to a public service that had the nerve to look for a 'dead Caylee' and have been very public about their feelings in regards to Casey's innocents.

I agree, that if someone wants to show up there just to cause a scene, they should not go...but to use Caylee's memorial as a way to 'punish' those that do not walk lock step with her belief system is wrong, this is about those that loved Caylee, like the Grunds, and the countless people that took this little girl into their hearts.

We only know that LP and Lois are on the list. We don't know who else is not allowed. I wanted to remind people, Tim Miller once said that LP commented to him about a picture with Caylees skull. I'm sure everyone remembers that. I don't know if I ever believed that, but alot of people have alot of faith in Tim Miller. If I believed that LP said that about MY GRANDCHILD, I would not want hm there either. Like I said, I don't know if I beleive that but.. and I do not believe in uninvitng people, I'd much rather get the day over and done wth wth dignity, but I can see where they'd be coming from there..

[bama__angel]

Body Language

http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/parts_body_language/hands_body_language.htm

So the other day when I was getting grossed out watching NG looping that clip of Cindy in the courtroom chawin' gum and fingers all over her lips, I decided that there must be something to that. What does that mean. Touching the lips all the time. Hmmmmm. So I found this webpage about body language and I think that it can be useful for some of us who might be interested in interpretting what we are seeing in these court appearances by Casey and what we have seen in the past with these jail visit videos between Casey and her family members.

The fingers on the mouth signify that the person is withholding something, is not ready to talk, keeping something secret. Okay, that explains Cindy. Now, what is this mouth pouting thing that Casey keeps doing?



In all honesty, I think casey has used this mouth thingey look to try and attract men and women..........IMO

[Pruddennce]

What did you think of the memorial service for Samantha Runnion? 5,500 people showed up and it was televised. Did you criticize that as sensationalizing or was that just a beautiful service to memorialize a beautiful child.

who killed Samanatha Runnion? did the parents have a family member sitting in jail for her murder and were standing by the family member accused of the murder? did the family have a missing child and that child was not reported missing by the family member for a month?

big difference.

best regards,
Pru

[aubrey04]

who killed Samanatha Runnion?

big difference.

best regards,
Pru

Exactly, Pru. Huge difference. imo.

[RiverWalk]

Did Samantha's mother tell certain people they could not come? Or get on tv and lie? Make money off of her? Talk bad about the searchers?

Blame everyone but the murderer?

I also believe that little Samantha was laid to rest right after the memorial and was not still laying at the funeral home.

jmo

Yep and I can't figure out the twisted mind(s) that can compare little Samantha or JonBenet or Natalee Holloway or any murdered missing child/adult to evil Casey. Boggles my mind. :cursing:

moo

[summer4meplz]

What did you think of the memorial service for Samantha Runnion? 5,500 people showed up and it was televised. Did you criticize that as sensationalizing or was that just a beautiful service to memorialize a beautiful child.


I don't know anything about this poor child's murder....but I am assuming they didn't have happy pictures of the murderer holding her victim...and someone speaking on behalf of her murderer..... that is my greatest fear......
om

[happy2bme]

When I went to Seaworld, they had a great water show with colored lights and various sprays of water shooting up into the sky, all different colors, it was spectacular. Maybe they could add that, as well. It will serve two purposes. First, it will be beautiful and second, they can cool off the spectators with the fine mist spray.

Seriously, this reminds me so much of what happened with Terry Schiavo. This is heartbreaking. And again, the same question begs to be asked. Do the Anthony's do ANYTHING with dignity?

I'll be back after JVM.


Ummm, No?:blushing:

[SavannahStar]

*snipped*

Conway: *She IS innocent. She is innocent until proven guilty.*

15:13

http://www.wftv.com/video/18659821/index.html

IMO

best regards,
Pru

No Pru, the question concerned whether he said the Anthonys believe she is innocent of the crime.

A whole other thing.

[Neffy]

Same here. You are my sunshine. We sang that to our kids all the time as they were growing up. Even now occasionally.

And you are my sunshine too Lavenia OOPS erm your talking memorial service song aren't you :blush:

[SavannahStar]

thank you Pru

so as the Anthonys spokesman I figure he is speaking for them and they think Casey IS INNOCENT

They Ants are not coming to grips with accepting she is guilty like the Cindy supporters kept insisting yesterday

:rolleyes:


Well I disagree. IIRC, this started with a poster saying that Conway said the Anthonys still believe she is innocent. That is a whole different thing than Conway himself saying she is innocent until proven guilty.

Again, we can agree to disagree.

I would agree with you IF I heard him say, "my clients believe their daughter is innocent of killing her daughter."

That is not at all what was said.

[StickyBeak]

So you think it's tears she's looking for?
I tend to agree.
She does it over and over and over, it drives me nuts to watch it...
I imagine she repeats the motions thinking "maybe, just maybe, this time I can work up a tear..."

Thanks....
Enjoy Janie.

Drives me crazy, is she trying to see if her mascara is running? Does she look a mess? OR could that be REAL TEARS she is crying for her own distress.

I hope no one shows up for this drama, this is not a memorial IMO.
GA supposed break down is a farce, just looking for full mental disability from all his stress. Then to put him into this situation. I am confused.
I hope that house is for sale, can't imagine how they can live and face their neighbors. But, LKB and JB say she is innocent until proven.

Put that Baby to rest Please, End this nightmare.

[nc1948]

Yes or so they said.

I will NOT be watching. My choice.


I will not watch either. I have to much respect for Caylee to watch what I think will become the circus of the year with a side show of we all support casey. With pictures depicting the Mother of the year with her murdered child.

[Pruddennce]

thank you Pru

so as the Anthonys spokesman I figure he is speaking for them and they think Casey IS INNOCENT

They Ants are not coming to grips with accepting she is guilty like the Cindy supporters kept insisting yesterday

:rolleyes:

Kit, I wouldnt expect them to make a statement as to her guilt OR innocence.

instead of putting up a circus tent, they should be near collapse, hiding under the biggest boulder possible.

exasperating, isnt it?

what people today 'accept and excuse'......

best regards,
Pru

[kellabeck]

Did anyone else -- like me -- laugh out loud when LKB likened the totmom to Dr. Richard Kimble???

:lol:

[velvetbrown]

So you think it's tears she's looking for?
I tend to agree.
She does it over and over and over, it drives me nuts to watch it...
I imagine she repeats the motions thinking "maybe, just maybe, this time I can work up a tear..."

Thanks....
Enjoy Janie.

One can only hope for an eye infection...

[Pruddennce]

No Pru, the question concerned whether he said the Anthonys believe she is innocent of the crime.

A whole other thing.

I understand SS...I was responding to your initial post where you stated you didnt hear the word 'innocent'.

best regards,
Pru

[Tracian]

Did anyone else -- like me -- laugh out loud when LKB likened the totmom to Dr. Richard Kimble???

:lol:



My jaw dropped. LKB is normally more savy than that...talk about grasping at straws.:w00t:

[bama__angel]

[QUOTE=January;12749985]Well, it's certainly turning me off! :thumbdown: Let me go ask my husband. Nope, he said that doesn't do much for him either. :chicken:[/QUOTE




I just think she tries to call attention to her mouth...........maybe that's a better way to say what I meant

[RiverWalk]

How does everyone know this will not be done with dignity? Keep in mind that the Pastor of the Church will have a great deal of say in how the service is conducted, so I'm willing to wait until after the service to criticize.

Yesterday everyone believed Cindy was selling rights to show the service and would sell videos of it, and they were wrong. On Tuesday afternoon it will be interesting to see which of the predictions I've read turn out to be fact, and which were simply mean-spirited vitriol.

IMO...of course.

How in the world do you know "that the Pastor of the Church will have a great deal of say in how the service is conducted". HOW? Do you personally know the Pastor/minister/brother ________ insert name @ the church?

AND again, how do you know Cindy won't be selling videos to this "memorial" service. Not everyone can view on the 'net, not everyone sits by their TV 24/7 and not everyone posts/views while at work while diddling their employer out of $ when they should be working? How do you know this????

Inquiring minds want to know! Please enlightening my feeble mind. TIA.

[scillak]

the reporter asks if the anthonys have had a SHIFT in their opinion (the question is hard to hear because of the background noise)

Conways replies

"There's NO SHIFT"

"She's INNOCENT"
"She's Innocent until proven guilty"

It was hard to hear the questions. But, earlier in the interview he made comments that (paraphrasing) they support their daughter, they love their daughter. They are waiting to see how this turns out. To me, that says that George and Cindy are backing off and starting to accept reality. Then later in the interview - the "She's Innocent. She's innocent until proven guilty". I got the feeling that he couldn't leave it at she's innocent - had to add the until proven guilty. I really think that they are coming to grips with it. IMO

[SavannahStar]

I understand SS...I was responding to your initial post where you stated you didnt hear the word 'innocent'.

best regards,
Pru


Oh I heard the word "innocent". I was responding to a post who said that Conway said the Anthonys believed she was innocent. I didn't hear "innocent" in that context. But thanks.

[Tracian]

but Pru the reporter is asking if the Anthonys have had a SHIFT in their opinion (probably because of the People Mag article that said they had)

he says

"There's NO SHIFT"

"She's INNOCENT"
"She's innocent until proven guilty"



Yes. That is what I remember. He was answering a question. Thank you.

[happy2bme]

who killed Samanatha Runnion? did the parents have a family member sitting in jail for her murder and were standing by the family member accused of the murder? did the family have a missing child and that child was not reported missing by the family member for a month?

big difference.

best regards,

Pru

This little girl was mentioned the other day, and of course I had to go and look her up. It made me sick to my stomach what this child must have endured. I honestly wish I had never read it or any other missing child case. I won't even let my little ones play in the front yard..PERIOD. My DH thinks I am crazy........but.........

Thank goodness my children don't have to fear me. I can't imagine or want to know what Caylee or any other child was enduring while their OWN MOTHER ended their life. Unforgiveable.

MOO

[SavannahStar]

It was hard to hear the questions. But, earlier in the interview he made comments that (paraphrasing) they support their daughter, they love their daughter. They are waiting to see how this turns out. To me, that says that George and Cindy are backing off and starting to accept reality. Then later in the interview - the "She's Innocent. She's innocent until proven guilty". I got the feeling that he couldn't leave it at she's innocent - had to add the until proven guilty. I really think that they are coming to grips with it. IMO

I agree with you. I definitely believe they are coming to grips with it. Not in public though. Nor do I expect them to or want them to.

[cassidy]

Did anyone else -- like me -- laugh out loud when LKB likened the totmom to Dr. Richard Kimble???

:lol:

Yeah I did :)

[kellabeck]

OMG! Casey is trying to get the civil suit dismissed with sanctions?!!

[Tracian]

I agree with you. I definitely believe they are coming to grips with it. Not in public though. Nor do I expect them to or want them to.


It's not a secret my feelings about the A's...but if they are coming to grips...Cindy should reach out to her brother and her parents.

[nana6]

Good evening all, This is the first time I have been on all day; Crazy day here. Anyway, any big news to report or is it all about Cindy and her planning the memorial?

[scillak]

OMG! Casey is trying to get the civil suit dismissed with sanctions?!!

What does that mean?

[RiverWalk]

Did anyone else -- like me -- laugh out loud when LKB likened the totmom to Dr. Richard Kimble???

:lol:

Yes and then Dan Abrams remarked that defense attorneys need to get new "game". This comparing every case known to man to S. Sheppard is getting OLD. lol.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/today-show-the-case-against-casey-anthony/1827559019/?icid=VIDLRVNWS06

[playnice]

Mike Brooks in for NG tonight. Love him.

[WillowInFlight]

Good evening all, This is the first time I have been on all day; Crazy day here. Anyway, any big news to report or is it all about Cindy and her planning the memorial?

I just heard on NG that the defense is saying that the public views Casey as another Osama Bin Laden.:scared:

[happy2bme]

It's not a secret my feelings about the A's...but if they are coming to grips...Cindy should reach out to her brother and her parents.


I can't imagine not having my family right beside me, especially parents & siblings.

[Tracian]

What does that mean?



That the case should be dismissed, and 'sactions' mean some kind of normally monitary punishment for bringing the case in the first place.

[RiverWalk]

I agree with you. I definitely believe they are coming to grips with it. Not in public though. Nor do I expect them to or want them to.

My bull needs a hanky again.

RIP Caylee. Someone will someday will bury that baby girl.

[chrissybot]

Mike Brookes:wub:. Glad he's filling in for nancy tonight

[happy2bme]

I just heard on NG that the defense is saying that the public views Casey as another Osama Bin Laden.:scared:


LOL...Again?:rolleyes::biggrin:

[Pruddennce]

Brilliant response.

And thanks much for the video reference.

That should clear up the fog that some seem to be in.

you are welcome andersson....I think a few others tossed in the video as well :)

she is innocent. until proven guilty. likening our troops to Casey's constitutional rights is what I gathered from his statement.

appealing to those that may have families overseas.......who are engaged in warfare....*why am I seeing Casey half-nekkid with the American flag draped over her*

Conway's attempt to garner a sympathetic jury pool connected to military service.....

that will all fade away once they hear "GIVE ME TONY's #"!!!!!!! hours after she is arrested for child endangerment. and spars with her mother over media attention.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Tracian]

Mike Brooks in for NG tonight. Love him.


I think NG popped a gasket after hearing what the defense had to say today.:scared:

[kellabeck]

Yes and then Dan Abrams remarked that defense attorneys need to get new "game". This comparing every case known to man to S. Sheppard is getting OLD. lol.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/today-show-the-case-against-casey-anthony/1827559019/?icid=VIDLRVNWS06

But how many actually innocent defendants do they have??

Simpson: not guilty but factually guilty

Michael Jackson: not guilty but factually guilty

Robert Durst: not guilty of killing an unappealing victim but he did it!

Robert Blake: not guilty but c'mon!

Who is left for these pathetic lawyers?

[WillowInFlight]

LOL...Again?:rolleyes::biggrin:

If they don't want to try this in the media, why do they keep going on talk shows?

[bama__angel]

I just heard on NG that the defense is saying that the public views Casey as another Osama Bin Laden.:scared:


I have to wonder which person in that comparison should feel insulted.

[Neffy]

It's not a secret my feelings about the A's...but if they are coming to grips...Cindy should reach out to her brother and her parents.

The only thing the A's are coming to grips with is having Casey beat this. Even if convicted they will still proclaim her innocent.

[Pruddennce]

but Pru the reporter is asking if the Anthonys have had a SHIFT in their opinion (probably because of the People Mag article that said they had)

he says

"There's NO SHIFT"

"She's INNOCENT"
"She's innocent until proven guilty"

oh you are correct.

he then had to expound on his initial response. :)

best regards,
Pru

[nana6]

I just heard on NG that the defense is saying that the public views Casey as another Osama Bin Laden.:scared:
Oh Paleeeeeze!!!! When sare they gonna shut up and get down to work? My God, have any of you ever ever seen a defense attorney act like this before a trial? He needs to get down to the business in trying to make his client look somewhat human and innocent. Is that not his job? He needs to quit focassing on the public and start focassing on his case. IMO Of course I do not think his client is innocent-not for one minute but he had better start his homework- it is almost due.

[WillowInFlight]

I have to wonder which person in that comparison should feel insulted.

Well they are both alleged murderers.

[kellabeck]

If they don't want to try this in the media, why do they keep going on talk shows?

They don't want her convicted in the media but they want her acquitted.

Peh!!

[Tracian]

The only thing the A's are coming to grips with is having Casey beat this. Even if convicted they will still proclaim her innocent.


Yeah, I tend to agree.

[Pruddennce]

If they don't want to try this in the media, why do they keep going on talk shows?

now THIS is the post of the evening :D

best regards,
Pru

[happy2bme]

If they don't want to try this in the media, why do they keep going on talk shows?

I am actually embarrassed for them.

Poor Caylee.... I wonder what her relatives think?
Seriously, I would like to know.

[WillowInFlight]

I hate the way Lenny says ORLANDO. LOL

[nana6]

I am going to miss the memorial and the doc dumps if we get them next week, I will try to find you all though and get info. from you my sleuths. We are headed to Mexico but I know I can get a computer at the hotel. Maybe a little break from all of this nonsense the defense speaks will be good for me.

[WillowInFlight]

I am going to miss the memorial and the doc dumps if we get them next week, I will try to find you all though and get info. from you my sleuths. We are headed to Mexico but I know I can get a computer at the hotel. Maybe a little break from all of this nonsense the defense speaks will be good for me.

Oh lucky you, Have a GREAT time. And stay safe.

[Pruddennce]

I am actually embarrassed for them.

Poor Caylee.... I wonder what her relatives think?
Seriously, I would like to know.

IMO, I have a feeling her mother will not be there. of course, not her brother Rick....or if he comes, he might bring a camera and carry a purse and test the waters with Cindy......who knows! IMO

George's family.....

he already gave LE background details of his own siblings. one sister has 'problems' and was wondering *out loud to LE* if Casey inherited her mental ailment. one sister was hardly 'helpful' in his opinion.

not sure about his family and their relationship at this point.

doesnt seem like anyone from his own family went to the hospital to see him or accompanied him home......not known at this time.

in fact, no one in the family showed their face, side by side with the Anthonys from the inception of this tragic case.

IIRC and IMO.

best regards,
Pru

[nana6]

Oh lucky you, Have a GREAT time. And stay safe.
Thank you, will do.Do yu think there is a possibility that the judge may say that Casey needs another attorney because this one is not going to give her the defense she needs?

[aubrey04]

Wow. Criminal profiler Pat Brown just said what a lot of people are saying.. "This this day has NOTHING to with Caylee, it has to do with Queen Cindy and what she wants".

So true. You could hear her disgust when she was saying it. She nailed it.

[SavannahStar]

I am going to miss the memorial and the doc dumps if we get them next week, I will try to find you all though and get info. from you my sleuths. We are headed to Mexico but I know I can get a computer at the hotel. Maybe a little break from all of this nonsense the defense speaks will be good for me.

A trip to Mexico and a break from all of this sounds wonderful! Have a great trip!

[aubrey04]

Lenny just said that so far - he is the only person on the list to not be admitted into the memorial, but he heard Marc Klaas and Dakota's grandmother are supposedly going to be added to the list too.

[WillowInFlight]

Wow. Criminal profiler Pat Brown just said what a lot of people are saying.. "This this day has NOTHING to with Caylee, it has to do with Queen Cindy and what she wants".

So true. You could hear her disgust when she was saying it. She nailed it.

Lenny just said about the same thing, he even said that Cindy said she would stand at the front door to keep him out. LOL

[Pruddennce]

Thank you, will do.Do yu think there is a possibility that the judge may say that Casey needs another attorney because this one is not going to give her the defense she needs?

at this point, and perhaps the legal people can answer, can the DP put back?

and if so, it is my understanding that JB is not DP qualified.

would have to be second chair.

???

best regards,
Pru

ETA: have a wonderful trip...warmth! :D <---envious

[Tracian]

LP just said Mark Klass and Lois well be added to the list, and so far he is the only one that he knows of that was told he was not invited...

LP said he is fine with it, because this is more Cindy's memorial than for Caylee.

[SavannahStar]

Wow. Criminal profiler Pat Brown just said what a lot of people are saying.. "This this day has NOTHING to with Caylee, it has to do with Queen Cindy and what she wants".

So true. You could hear her disgust when she was saying it. She nailed it.

I think it's pretty darn funny, when we haven't even seen the memorial yet. And when Conway talked, I sure heard a lot about CAYLEE'S memorial. :shrug:

[gaelicpeas]

This little girl was mentioned the other day, and of course I had to go and look her up. It made me sick to my stomach what this child must have endured. I honestly wish I had never read it or any other missing child case. I won't even let my little ones play in the front yard..PERIOD. My DH thinks I am crazy........but.........

Thank goodness my children don't have to fear me. I can't imagine or want to know what Caylee or any other child was enduring while their OWN MOTHER ended their life. Unforgiveable.

MOOI understand your concern about the front yard with your children, Happy.

It is so sad that society has come to this, though. I remember my childhood so vividly, running all over the neighborhood and playing in the woods behind my neighbor's house. Any time of day or night... it was so safe then. (sigh)

Do you think the Anthony's have notified the people who are not welcome? All I have heard in the news is Lenny and Lois. I wonder if Casey's friends will show? Like Ryan, who told the defense that they could call him as a witness, but that he didn't have anything nice to say about Casey. Or Jesse, Amy, and Ricardo - all implicated by Cindy. What a weird "performance" (per Conway's PC) this has truly become. JMO

[Tracian]

Wow. Criminal profiler Pat Brown just said what a lot of people are saying.. "This this day has NOTHING to with Caylee, it has to do with Queen Cindy and what she wants".

So true. You could hear her disgust when she was saying it. She nailed it.


Wow...you are kidding...Darn I missed that...she actually said 'Queen Cindy'.....Yikes!!!

[SavannahStar]

Lenny just said that so far - he is the only person on the list to not be admitted into the memorial, but he heard Marc Klaas and Dakota's grandmother are supposedly going to be added to the list too.

I wonder how he "heard".....:biggrin: (though we did hear about Dakota's grandma, through the email)

[WillowInFlight]

Lenny just said that so far - he is the only person on the list to not be admitted into the memorial, but he heard Marc Klaas and Dakota's grandmother are supposedly going to be added to the list too.

I don't see Mark wanting to go anyways.

[SavannahStar]

Lenny just said he's the only one on the list who can't go to the memorial.. He also said Mark Klass may be on the list too.. Lenny said it's a memorial for Cindy, not Caylee, and he had no plans on going.. He said Cindy will be at the door to make sure he won't be entered.

Dramatic Lenny.

How does he know Ciindy will be at the door looking especially for him?

[marshmallow]

LP just said Mark Klass and Lois well be added to the list, and so far he is the only one that he knows of that was told he was not invited...

LP said he is fine with it, because this is more Cindy's memorial than for Caylee.



he's right. And I'm glad to see he won't try to go. Good for him. I may not pay attention to his stories but I still give him some props for searching. I'm glad he recognizes that it might serve to only give Cindy the squishies if she got to kick him out. He doesn't need to go, he respected Caylee by bothering to look for her.

[Tracian]

I think it's pretty darn funny, when we haven't even seen the memorial yet. And when Conway talked, I sure heard a lot about CAYLEE'S memorial. :shrug:


Yeah, being directed and controlled by Cindy, I agree with the profiler.

[aubrey04]

On NG there is some guy reporting from outside Orange County Jail and there is a little caption that says, "FROM TOT MOM JAIL"...who thinks of this stuff?

[Neffy]

Lenny just said that so far - he is the only person on the list to not be admitted into the memorial, but he heard Marc Klaas and Dakota's grandmother are supposedly going to be added to the list too.

Dakota's Grandmother and Cindy are weaved of the same cloth.

[Tracian]

Dramatic Lenny.

How does he know Ciindy will be at the door looking especially for him?


He said he was directly told. Conway said some people have already been told.

[WillowInFlight]

Dakota's Grandmother and Cindy are weaved of the same cloth.

Oh thats for sure.

[SavannahStar]

Yeah, being directed and controlled by Cindy, I agree with the profiler.


Who should direct and control it? Casey?

[nana6]

Could their angle be a strategy that they can use to go for a mistrial? Imagine they can go on all the national talk shows and pollute the entire state of Florida and the rest of the country potential jury pool and then claim that she can't get a fair trial and then go for a mistrial. It's a slick move if this is what they are trying but it's also like putting themselves in a catch22 situation. How can they claim pollution when they have their hands in the polluting pot?

IMO If they are in fact trying to pollute a potential jury pool and do claim then that she caanot get a fair trial I suggest they try her in Turkey or some other far off crazy land Iran etc. They could take care of this problem in a minute. IMO

[SavannahStar]

He said he was directly told. Conway said some people have already been told.


I don't doubt he's been told he would not be welcome. What I doubt is that Cindy will be at the door watching for him.

[aubrey04]

Wow...you are kidding...Darn I missed that...she actually said 'Queen Cindy'.....Yikes!!!

Yes, she did.. lol. :mellow: And she said it with such disgust.

[Pruddennce]

Dakota's Grandmother and Cindy are weaved of the same cloth.

whispering....who is Dakota?

I tend to disregard some people in this case.....

best regards,
Pru