Thursday, Feb. 5th. - Part II

[summer4meplz]

At the public service I bet you didn't have someone stand at the door and determine who's allowed in and who's not!
I have never disliked anyone as much as I've come to dislike these anthony creatures. I just am reminded of this disgust on a almost daily basis. What gets me is they think they are pulling the wool over everyones eyes and after georges, (cough), "suicide attempt" (cough, cough), they are expecting thousands of people to come and pay their respects to them. Oh yeah Caylee too. huh almost forgot about Caylee..... sheeeesh. I bet you guys are right. I bet Casey's ugly mug is all over that show, er, event, er, memorial.


I wonder if Lois and Dakota will go........that would be quite the scene at the door wouldn't it? an ambulance would probably have to be called to take Dakota away and the police would have to drag Lois off....

om

[scillak]

I so agree, but just do not see the Anthonys doing anything to honor Caylee in a dignified manner. I so hope I am wrong. I just wish no one would show up. Maybe I am wierd, but I just don't see going to a memorial of someone I have never met or seen. So far I have only attended memorials and funerals of friends and family and have never attended one for a stranger. ( and don't intend to start)

The thing that bothers me most is that Casey might watch it from jail. It's just horrible.

[cassidy]

I wonder if Lois and Dakota will go........that would be quite the scene at the door wouldn't it? an ambulance would probably have to be called to take Dakota away and the police would have to drag Lois off....

om


IIRC Lois is on the uninvited list.

[Pruddennce]

if cindy is very smart, she won't mention casey's name or have any photos of her displayed....imo

their official website is full of pics of Casey with Caylee. thats pretty global :D

in real life.......wagering here.....Casey will be framed and honored along with her daughter.

"Casey is a victim" <----so says Cindy
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6220718&page=1

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Balesha]

I wonder where little Caylee would be had Casey been charged with fraud. So sad. :(

[summer4meplz]

IIRC Lois is on the uninvited list.


I wonder if that will stop her.....

[Lapis]

And since there are so many photos out there now, do you think the value of any more is depreciated? I can't see it going on and on.

I think the problem was that JB underestimated how much it would really cost to mount the defense he was planning. I think he is going to find his plan fail right now, we'll see if any of the photos sell and for how much. This may be a blessing in disguise. JB is not exactly in a position where he can work on a case of this magnitude for an entire year without any money coming in. The problem is that you cannot devote the amount of time necessary to this case and still service other clients. He may have to give this case up. Wouldn't it be loverly? JMO

[bchand]

People have preconceived notions though.......:sneaky: And there's no changing them.

Yet another baiting post? I thought you were above that AND talking about other posters?

[Tracian]

their official website is full of pics of Casey with Caylee. thats pretty global :D

in real life.......wagering here.....Casey will be framed and honored along with her daughter.

"Casey is a victim" <----so says Cindy
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6220718&page=1

IMO

best regards,
Pru

OMG....I sure hope not...

[sailordog]

I think the problem was that JB underestimated how much it would really cost to mount the defense he was planning. I think he is going to find his plan fail right now, we'll see if any of the photos sell and for how much. This may be a blessing in disguise. JB is not exactly in a position where he can work on a case of this magnitude for an entire year without any money coming in. The problem is that you cannot devote the amount of time necessary to this case and still service other clients. He may have to give this case up. Wouldn't it be loverly? JMO

I wonder if he was actually diluted enough to think people would donate materials for exhibits and services and things to minimize the costs of her defense?

[Balesha]

Casey lied to police as though she thought they were fools. I wonder what this says about how she treats her father. Since he was a former cop, it's likely that she was transferring her relationship with George onto the officers. What I am saying is that she likely always "got away with murder" with George, and thought she could do the same with police. She even pretty much said it when she said "that's why I chose dad". Yep, pick the one who doesn't ask any questions and who is gullible.

[bchand]

I think the problem was that JB underestimated how much it would really cost to mount the defense he was planning. I think he is going to find his plan fail right now, we'll see if any of the photos sell and for how much. This may be a blessing in disguise. JB is not exactly in a position where he can work on a case of this magnitude for an entire year without any money coming in. The problem is that you cannot devote the amount of time necessary to this case and still service other clients. He may have to give this case up. Wouldn't it be loverly? JMO

Yep, Kathi Belich said there was no $$ figure mentioned, he's just fishing to see what they would be worth.

I can't see the day where he would give up this case lol.

But you're right - how can he keep his practice going without other cases.

[jakee]

Florida's current Son of Sam law allows the state to place a lien against the earnings convicted felons receive for recounting their crimes. The federal statute is similar.



http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/25/Tampabay/New_book_by_Al_Arian_.shtml

Thank you! Off to read the link.

[Lapis]

I wonder if he was actually diluted enough to think people would donate materials for exhibits and services and things to minimize the costs of her defense?

Nothing would surprise me. JMO

[Heyes]

You are correct. In my more than a half a century in this world I have never heard of a public funeral with a NOT INVITED list.

Nor have I. I heard LP wasn't invited but haven't heard of others. Seriously what would she care if anyone wanted to pay their respects to Caylee. (unless it's more about paying respect to george, lee and queen cindy, which is what I think this is all about).). Whether they got along at the end or not, he did help in the beginning and cared enough to at least search for her. He would of searched for a live Caylee had stupid casey quit baking brownies long enough to help out, but noooooo. I wish this family would all be charged for accessory after the fact and obstruction. Maybe that will make them go away. At this point I want to tell them to just leave Caylee alone. Bury the poor child quietly and with dignity and then leave her alone. sheeeeesh.
IMO

[bchand]

IIRC Lois is on the uninvited list.

It's pretty bad when you have so many enemies that you need to worry about who attends a memorial for a little child.

[sailordog]

Casey lied to police as though she thought they were fools. I wonder what this says about how she treats her father. Since he was a former cop, it's likely that she was transferring her relationship with George onto the officers. What I am saying is that she likely always "got away with murder" with George, and thought she could do the same with police. She even pretty much said it when she said "that's why I chose dad". Yep, pick the one who doesn't ask any questions and who is gullible.


Casey thinks men hang on her every word. She uses and manipulates men the way people eat potato chips. I'm sure, in her mind, she thought she would easily wrap them around her little finger. I'm sure it was a big shock to figure out her "charms" were having no affect.

[Magnum357]

At the public service I bet you didn't have someone stand at the door and determine who's allowed in and who's not!
I have never disliked anyone as much as I've come to dislike these anthony creatures. I just am reminded of this disgust on a almost daily basis. What gets me is they think they are pulling the wool over everyones eyes and after georges, (cough), "suicide attempt" (cough, cough), they are expecting thousands of people to come and pay their respects to them. Oh yeah Caylee too. huh almost forgot about Caylee..... sheeeesh. I bet you guys are right. I bet Casey's ugly mug is all over that show, er, event, er, memorial.

Even if there are only hundreds of people instead of thousands, my prediction is there will be a few that are going to be there to stir up trouble ie. sneak some sort of picture taking device in, scream something nasty at the Anthonys, etc.

Is it right---no.
Is it going to happen--I bet it does.
JMO

[happygert]

And they still aren't protecting her now.

JMO

No ITA...treated in death as she was in life.....

[Lapis]

Yep, Kathi Belich said there was no $$ figure mentioned, he's just fishing to see what they would be worth.

I can't see the day where he would give up this case lol.

But you're right - how can he keep his practice going without other cases.

Payroll has to be met. You need a staff to properly defend. Experts must be paid (even if they are doing this just for cost, which I doubt). Your wife and children have to be provided for. Even if he applies to the state for funds they are usually at a reduced rate. JMO

[Neffy]

You are correct. In my more than a half a century in this world I have never heard of a public funeral with a NOT INVITED list.

So much for the Mega Church being a church of God.

[happygert]

Nor have I. I heard LP wasn't invited but haven't heard of others. Seriously what would she care if anyone wanted to pay their respects to Caylee. (unless it's more about paying respect to george, lee and queen cindy, which is what I think this is all about).). Whether they got along at the end or not, he did help in the beginning and cared enough to at least search for her. He would of searched for a live Caylee had stupid casey quit baking brownies long enough to help out, but noooooo. I wish this family would all be charged for accessory after the fact and obstruction. Maybe that will make them go away. At this point I want to tell them to just leave Caylee alone. Bury the poor child quietly and with dignity and then leave her alone. sheeeeesh.
IMO
I Think the other one was Tim Miller ...dont know who else...jmo

[Heyes]

I wonder if Lois and Dakota will go........that would be quite the scene at the door wouldn't it? an ambulance would probably have to be called to take Dakota away and the police would have to drag Lois off....

om

Oh summer I hope Lois wouldn't even think of it. IMO cindy would cause a scene and make it horrible for them.

[kindeekat]

their official website is full of pics of Casey with Caylee. thats pretty global :D

in real life.......wagering here.....Casey will be framed and honored along with her daughter.

"Casey is a victim" <----so says Cindy
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6220718&page=1

IMO

best regards,
Pru


OK Pru, I'm in with your wager. I hope we're wrong but I WAGER we are not.

Where do I put down my $5? lol

[ConchGirl]

I think the problem was that JB underestimated how much it would really cost to mount the defense he was planning. I think he is going to find his plan fail right now, we'll see if any of the photos sell and for how much. This may be a blessing in disguise. JB is not exactly in a position where he can work on a case of this magnitude for an entire year without any money coming in. The problem is that you cannot devote the amount of time necessary to this case and still service other clients. He may have to give this case up. Wouldn't it be loverly? JMO

This is what Katprint posted a long time ago and it's worth revisiting.

I do think he is in over his head, and I don't think he is asking the right people for advice. Apparently he didn't see the value in working for an experienced criminal defense attorney before opening his own law office and his partner has even less experience than he does, so he doesn't have the usual Kung Fu Master mentor attorney to seek advice from. I don't know if he is so arrogant that he simply believes that he already knows it all, or if he was simply unable to land such a job because he did such a bad job at the PD office where he clerked during law school or he performs badly during interviews or they don't want to take a chance on someone who had so much trouble passing the bar exam or whatever.

But you know what experienced attorneys know that Mr. Baez does not know? It turns out that being offensive is not necessarily the best defense.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Oregongal]

I don't think we've seen just how low things can go. Pictures today....who knows what it will be tomorrow.

Caylee's going home from the hospital outfit, her first little dress, booties, her baby spoon, her hospital braclets, the sonograms, a handmade blanket/quilt made especially for her and the list goes on.
All those things first time mommies and gramma's save. And what about her mamma doll that was left in the car? Was that taken by LE or do the Ant's still have it? As sick as it is, I see these things as being the next to go on the auction block.
Deplorable.
Of course, it's also deplorable that there are people out there that would buy these things.

[Pruddennce]

Casey lied to police as though she thought they were fools. I wonder what this says about how she treats her father. Since he was a former cop, it's likely that she was transferring her relationship with George onto the officers. What I am saying is that she likely always "got away with murder" with George, and thought she could do the same with police. She even pretty much said it when she said "that's why I chose dad". Yep, pick the one who doesn't ask any questions and who is gullible.

yes you are correct, IMO. she plays with her prey.

the weakest link was George. they were estranged and nothing like a good ole murder charge to bring them together.

not one family members confronted her about NOT HAVING A JOB....as in : sweetheart, what were you doing all day long with Caylee for almost 2years that you said you had a job? and you want us to believe you had a nanny caring for Caylee when you didnt have job that necessitated child care?

waiting on duct tape evidence.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Neffy]

Payroll has to be met. You need a staff to properly defend. Experts must be paid (even if they are doing this just for cost, which I doubt). Your wife and children have to be provided for. Even if he applies to the state for funds they are usually at a reduced rate. JMO

But to go sending around the US and Canada. Gimme a break. That's frivilous and insulting. Baez has perpetuated the sale of these photo's. He knew and knows there was money in this. That no gag order has really come to fruitation in the profitability dept.

[Unperson1984]

I don't think they are just under duress. They are in denial and are protecting what their opinion of their daughter is--there is no other way to explain the lack of action on the smell from that car or not calling the authorities before 31 days. I cannot believe for a minute they were thinking, "Oh, well. Casey must have done something to Caylee. Too bad. What should we have for dinner tonight?"

They are just not composed of the right stuff. They are defensive. They are damned if the public is going to pass a negative judgment on them. They are angry, terrible, greedy people. They made a mess of their daughter; she was raised by people cut from the same cloth she was. They are making a mess of their granddaughter's memory. But they are not murderers. Their daughter is going to jail for that.

You're a wise person Fresca.

[Lapis]

This is what Katprint posted a long time ago and it's worth revisiting.

I do think he is in over his head, and I don't think he is asking the right people for advice. Apparently he didn't see the value in working for an experienced criminal defense attorney before opening his own law office and his partner has even less experience than he does, so he doesn't have the usual Kung Fu Master mentor attorney to seek advice from. I don't know if he is so arrogant that he simply believes that he already knows it all, or if he was simply unable to land such a job because he did such a bad job at the PD office where he clerked during law school or he performs badly during interviews or they don't want to take a chance on someone who had so much trouble passing the bar exam or whatever.

But you know what experienced attorneys know that Mr. Baez does not know? It turns out that being offensive is not necessarily the best defense.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I quite agree. JMO

[spiritwolf46]

Yep...and also, when that People interview came out..it was the same time C and G where spinning tales about having the kidnappers 'watched'.

And remember when they were scared for Caylee and for their own hides because of the so-called "kidnapper" but then on TV said that the kidnappers were being watched?

Now they are afraid again and need security for the PUBLIC memorial! I wonder if they are going to spin a "I think that the murderer may be after us" or do they notice that they are one of the most disliked families in American right now.

Funny how they seem to GRAB the attention of the media with carp like this all to focus on them!

[Neffy]

yes you are correct, IMO. she plays with her prey.

the weakest link was George. they were estranged and nothing like a good ole murder charge to bring them together.

not one family members confronted her about NOT HAVING A JOB....as in : sweetheart, what were you doing all day long with Caylee for almost 2years that you said you had a job? and you want us to believe you had a nanny caring for Caylee when you didnt have job that necessitated child care?

waiting on duct tape evidence.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Crossing fingers this will be released (duct tape evidence) before Feb 10

[Pruddennce]

OK Pru, I'm in with your wager. I hope we're wrong but I WAGER we are not.

Where do I put down my $5? lol

$5.00? I was going to offer up Girl Scout cookies! :D *I consider a couple of boxes very valuable*

I would like to be wrong as well kindeekat, but their website was already in full gear in defense of their daughter prior to Caylee being found.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[SavannahStar]

YES it IS! profit from a baby's MURDER?

um yeah, it's WRONG.

It is? How so? If I were them, and People Mag came to me and offered me money for an interview, IF I were inclined to give an interview, I would accept. What would you have them say? "No....sorry, I'll do the interview......but I won't take money"? Or......."No I won't talk at all. Even though this is the biggest case in probably U.S. judicial history"?

I guess the bottom line is that I don't see giving an interview, for payment as "profiting"........because that word, on here, is always used in a derogatory manner. "Profiting" has a distinct bad connotation. I don't see it as profiting.

[nc1948]

I wonder if Lois and Dakota will go........that would be quite the scene at the door wouldn't it? an ambulance would probably have to be called to take Dakota away and the police would have to drag Lois off....

om

I have definitely been wrong before, but I think I remember that Lois was one of the uninvited guests.

[happygert]

YES it IS! profit from a baby's MURDER?

um yeah, it's WRONG.

I have to agree with you IMO its wrong that the killer and the killers family profit off of the victim....Victim in this case happens to be the killers daughter and the GRANDDAUGHTER ...OF the people who are profitting off of their Granddaughters murder.. pretty sick if you ask me...And lets not forget right after Caylee was positively ID cindy was asking for donations to bury her dead GRANDDAUGHTER.....These blood suckers will never stop...I also have a strong feeling that it will be a long long time before Caylee gets out of that 12x12 cardboard box and is given a proper burial. and the respect she deserves.....jmho...

[kindeekat]

yes you are correct, IMO. she plays with her prey.

the weakest link was George. they were estranged and nothing like a good ole murder charge to bring them together.

not one family members confronted her about NOT HAVING A JOB....as in : sweetheart, what were you doing all day long with Caylee for almost 2years that you said you had a job? and you want us to believe you had a nanny caring for Caylee when you didnt have job that necessitated child care?

waiting on duct tape evidence.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru



One of the strangest exchanges for ME in the jailhouse visits is when Casey is telling her mom, "I'll change...we'll be a family...I'll get a job" and Cindy jumps in and says "Honey you don't have to get a job"..


WTH? after ALL THIS she doesn't even have to get a job? Just...um...enablingly dysfunctional and creepy. jmo.

[SavannahStar]

I read the other day someone thought Caylee was killed in the house by Casey. They thought long and hard about this because that's where the pooh blanket was and the laundrey hamper were.

Talk about preconcieved notions!

Hey wait a minute that was yours! :blush:

Sorry, Neffy. You're wrong. That was not a PREconceived notion. At all. Sorry 'bout that.

[Lapis]

But to go sending around the US and Canada. Gimme a break. That's frivilous and insulting. Baez has perpetuated the sale of these photo's. He knew and knows there was money in this. That no gag order has really come to fruitation in the profitability dept.

That may have been his plan, but I think it may backfire. The money will dwindle and he'll still be stuck with all of his stupid statements to the press. JMO

[kindeekat]

I have to agree with you IMO its wrong that the killer and the killers family profit off of the victim....Victim in this case happens to be the killers daughter and the GRANDDAUGHTER ...OF the people who are profitting off of their Granddaughters murder.. pretty sick if you ask me...And lets not forget right after Caylee was positively ID cindy was asking for donations to bury her dead GRANDDAUGHTER.....These blood suckers will never stop.....jmho...



I think that is part of the fascination here; this is a family trainwreck and you can't believe it's happening but you can't look away...

[Maddie]

It is? How so? If I were them, and People Mag came to me and offered me money for an interview, IF I were inclined to give an interview, I would accept. What would you have them say? "No....sorry, I'll do the interview......but I won't take money"? Or......."No I won't talk at all. Even though this is the biggest case in probably U.S. judicial history"?

I guess the bottom line is that I don't see giving an interview, for payment as "profiting"........because that word, on here, is always used in a derogatory manner. "Profiting" has a distinct bad connotation. I don't see it as profiting.

What do you see it as?

[Oregongal]

I Think the other one was Tim Miller ...dont know who else...jmo

I would think the Grunds would be included on that list also. Possibly any of Casey's other friends that told the truth to LE in their statements.

[shelbar53]

I bet the document dump will be monday or tuesday, that's why the memorial service is scheduled for Tuesday, so people won't be talking about the evidence. If there is a release either of those days then the entire memorial will be a scam.

[kindeekat]

It is? How so? If I were them, and People Mag came to me and offered me money for an interview, IF I were inclined to give an interview, I would accept. What would you have them say? "No....sorry, I'll do the interview......but I won't take money"? Or......."No I won't talk at all. Even though this is the biggest case in probably U.S. judicial history"?

I guess the bottom line is that I don't see giving an interview, for payment as "profiting"........because that word, on here, is always used in a derogatory manner. "Profiting" has a distinct bad connotation. I don't see it as profiting.




If you MAKE more money than you SPEND, it's PROFIT.

And what is the chattel? DEAD BABY CAYLEE.

if you don't see that is wrong, there ain't a post I can make that could explain it.

[SavannahStar]

Tim Miller is under spending everything looking for Caylee. They stole that also IMO. How much did has it cost the City of Orlando?


If I'm not mistaken, the Anthonys did not want Tim Miller to search for Caylee? In their mind, he was only searching for a DEAD Caylee. Right or wrong.

So how can you blame that expense on them? When they did not want it?

[bchand]

I have definitely been wrong before, but I think I remember that Lois was one of the uninvited guests.


I think anyone who goes to start trouble is wrong just as I think if that looney guy who supports Casey goes and makes a spectacle of himself would be wrong.

[Neffy]

It is? How so? If I were them, and People Mag came to me and offered me money for an interview, IF I were inclined to give an interview, I would accept. What would you have them say? "No....sorry, I'll do the interview......but I won't take money"? Or......."No I won't talk at all. Even though this is the biggest case in probably U.S. judicial history"?

I guess the bottom line is that I don't see giving an interview, for payment as "profiting"........because that word, on here, is always used in a derogatory manner. "Profiting" has a distinct bad connotation. I don't see it as profiting.

Using it to earn/make a living is more like it. Can't say you've shocked me.

[SavannahStar]

Even if there are only hundreds of people instead of thousands, my prediction is there will be a few that are going to be there to stir up trouble ie. sneak some sort of picture taking device in, scream something nasty at the Anthonys, etc.

Is it right---no.
Is it going to happen--I bet it does.
JMO


Oh I think so too.

[bchand]

One of the strangest exchanges for ME in the jailhouse visits is when Casey is telling her mom, "I'll change...we'll be a family...I'll get a job" and Cindy jumps in and says "Honey you don't have to get a job"..


WTH? after ALL THIS she doesn't even have to get a job? Just...um...enablingly dysfunctional and creepy. jmo.

Yeah - was that weird or what???? Obviously she was caving in yet again to Casey.

[happygert]

It is? How so? If I were them, and People Mag came to me and offered me money for an interview, IF I were inclined to give an interview, I would accept. What would you have them say? "No....sorry, I'll do the interview......but I won't take money"? Or......."No I won't talk at all. Even though this is the biggest case in probably U.S. judicial history"?

I guess the bottom line is that I don't see giving an interview, for payment as "profiting"........because that word, on here, is always used in a derogatory manner. "Profiting" has a distinct bad connotation. I don't see it as profiting.

OK BLOOD MONEY......So they can live comfortable and not have to work...They sold the granddaughter that they PROFESSED to LOVE......Yes I can see the LOVE...It comes in GREEN with PICTURES os DEAD PRESIDENTS ON THEM......mo

[Howiefan]

Yes I do think he'll encourage his congregation to attend.

Kathi Belich just confirmed that her station will be videotaping it and broadcasting it live (on the internet) which means the Anthonys can't make any money off of it.
I understood Kathi to mean that since it is being videotaped there will be live feed on her station? I interpret your wording to mean that her station is videotaping it etc..???

[phredd4]

I looked through the links thread but couldn't find anything about the Anthony's telling anyone they could not attend the public service for Caylee. Is there a link someone could point me to?

[ConchGirl]

It is? How so? If I were them, and People Mag came to me and offered me money for an interview, IF I were inclined to give an interview, I would accept. What would you have them say? "No....sorry, I'll do the interview......but I won't take money"? Or......."No I won't talk at all. Even though this is the biggest case in probably U.S. judicial history"?

I guess the bottom line is that I don't see giving an interview, for payment as "profiting"........because that word, on here, is always used in a derogatory manner. "Profiting" has a distinct bad connotation. I don't see it as profiting.

That is the latest buzz word. Not profiting. Let's explore that word that they (Team Anthony) cleverly use.

prof·it (prft)
n.
1. An advantageous gain or return; benefit.
2. The return received on a business undertaking after all operating expenses have been met.
3.
a. The return received on an investment after all charges have been paid. Often used in the plural.
b. The rate of increase in the net worth of a business enterprise in a given accounting period.
c. Income received from investments or property.
d. The amount received for a commodity or service in excess of the original cost.
v. prof·it·ed, prof·it·ing, prof·its

[SavannahStar]

If you MAKE more money than you SPEND, it's PROFIT.

And what is the chattel? DEAD BABY CAYLEE.

if you don't see that is wrong, there ain't a post I can make that could explain it.


They are making more money than they spend? How so? Do you know their income vs. expenses? Please share.

[Neffy]

If I'm not mistaken, the Anthonys did not want Tim Miller to search for Caylee? In their mind, he was only searching for a DEAD Caylee. Right or wrong.

So how can you blame that expense on them? When they did not want it?


They certainly didn't want her remains to be found.

Their rules made it very clear they didn't want her found at all as she most certainly wasn't going to be walking around.

[Magnum357]

It is? How so? If I were them, and People Mag came to me and offered me money for an interview, IF I were inclined to give an interview, I would accept. What would you have them say? "No....sorry, I'll do the interview......but I won't take money"? Or......."No I won't talk at all. Even though this is the biggest case in probably U.S. judicial history"?

I guess the bottom line is that I don't see giving an interview, for payment as "profiting"........because that word, on here, is always used in a derogatory manner. "Profiting" has a distinct bad connotation. I don't see it as profiting.

I'm thinking the "No I won't talk at all' option would have been a good one but I doubt Cindy would even consider that an option.

[shelbar53]

I looked through the links thread but couldn't find anything about the Anthony's telling anyone they could not attend the public service for Caylee. Is there a link someone could point me to?

cindy said LP and Lois for sure cannot attend. it was talked about as if she was planning a party.

[SavannahStar]

OK BLOOD MONEY......So they can live comfortable and not have to work...They sold the granddaughter that they PROFESSED to LOVE......Yes I can see the LOVE...It comes in GREEN with PICTURES os DEAD PRESIDENTS ON THEM......mo

Do you really believe they are comfortable? With their daughter in jail, probably to serve life in prison eventually? And their granddaughter dead at the hands of their daughter?

God forbid I should ever live so "comfortably". :sad:

[Neffy]

Yeah - was that weird or what???? Obviously she was caving in yet again to Casey.

Boy I missed that one. Any direction you can point me in to find it?

[Maddie]

They are making more money than they spend? How so? Do you know their income vs. expenses? Please share.

Do we know for a fact how much money Cindy and George have made off this case so far?

[shelbar53]

I looked through the links thread but couldn't find anything about the Anthony's telling anyone they could not attend the public service for Caylee. Is there a link someone could point me to?


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html
In recent days, Cindy Anthony and Peter have exchanged biting e-mails, with Cindy Anthony telling Peter that she would not be invited to Caylee's funeral.

[happygert]

I think that is part of the fascination here; this is a family trainwreck and you can't believe it's happening but you can't look away...

No Im sure their families cant believe there eyes and ears either.bet by now they haven't only disowned casey some have probably disowned some of the others.......JMO I know I would...wouldn't want anyone to know they were my family........moo...

[openminded]

One of the strangest exchanges for ME in the jailhouse visits is when Casey is telling her mom, "I'll change...we'll be a family...I'll get a job" and Cindy jumps in and says "Honey you don't have to get a job"..


WTH? after ALL THIS she doesn't even have to get a job? Just...um...enablingly dysfunctional and creepy. jmo.

I completely agree. I remember that statement well. There wasn't even a pause -- Cindy jumped right in before Casey could finish talking.

Why, why, why would Cindy say that Casey could, in effect, continue to be the lazy, stealing parasite that she has been in the past, continuing to have her mother support her. I just don't get it.

[tmw]

I personally understand the uninvited guests for a funeral. Believe me, I do. Sometimes it is just not "right" for certain people to make an appearance under certain circustances. I don't know why it can't be understood here. It happens and it is reasonable.

JMO

[happygert]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html
In recent days, Cindy Anthony and Peter have exchanged biting e-mails, with Cindy Anthony telling Peter that she would not be invited to Caylee's funeral.

Ok didnt read it but whose Peter? LOL ok figured it out Lois...

[Lapis]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html
In recent days, Cindy Anthony and Peter have exchanged biting e-mails, with Cindy Anthony telling Peter that she would not be invited to Caylee's funeral.

Somehow I have trouble having any sympathy for Lois. Talk about inserting yourself into a tragic situation. The others yes, Lois no. Sorry JMO

[SavannahStar]

I personally understand the uninvited guests for a funeral. Believe me, I do. Sometimes it is just not "right" for certain people to make an appearance under certain circustances. I don't know why it can't be understood here. It happens and it is reasonable.

JMO

It is. Absolutely.

[ConchGirl]

cindy said LP and Lois for sure cannot attend. it was talked about as if she was planning a party.
I personally can't wait until she is properly buried, but Conway already made note that Caylee will not be there? :confused: Casey will be watching during her rec time. It's a farce IMO

[gramvof14]

It is? How so? If I were them, and People Mag came to me and offered me money for an interview, IF I were inclined to give an interview, I would accept. What would you have them say? "No....sorry, I'll do the interview......but I won't take money"? Or......."No I won't talk at all. Even though this is the biggest case in probably U.S. judicial history"?

I guess the bottom line is that I don't see giving an interview, for payment as "profiting"........because that word, on here, is always used in a derogatory manner. "Profiting" has a distinct bad connotation. I don't see it as profiting.
If it is not profiting what the heck is it. IMO they are profiting off of their murdered grandchild.Dispicable,and I will never understand them.JMOO

[SavannahStar]

Do we know for a fact how much money Cindy and George have made off this case so far?

I'm not so sure they have "made" anything off this case? Are you? Got those figures?

[kindeekat]

What do you see it as?



seriously, like Bill Clinton's "definition of is/is" are we not allowed now to use the word PROFIT?

If People Magazine pays um say, X and Y for an interview...it's an interview about X & Y's daughter accused of murdering their granddaughter.

They make $$$$$$ from that.

Profit.

is that wrong?

If you have to ask, I think that's your answer.

[Lapis]

Thanks Lapis for all your informed posts. I don't think the state will pay him for his 6 hr days with his client either. He is probably letting Casey use his laptop in jail to release her photos to him. He probably has her password and can do as he likes anyway.

He probably had her sign a release long ago. JMO

[kindeekat]

I completely agree. I remember that statement well. There wasn't even a pause -- Cindy jumped right in before Casey could finish talking.

Why, why, why would Cindy say that Casey could, in effect, continue to be the lazy, stealing parasite that she has been in the past, continuing to have her mother support her. I just don't get it.




There we saw the Anthony family dysfunction in a microcosm.

It just blew my mind.

[Neffy]

I wonder if he was actually diluted enough to think people would donate materials for exhibits and services and things to minimize the costs of her defense?


Pretty nervy assumption in light of retaining the H Lee, LKB and ilk.

[ConchGirl]

I personally understand the uninvited guests for a funeral. Believe me, I do. Sometimes it is just not "right" for certain people to make an appearance under certain circustances. I don't know why it can't be understood here. It happens and it is reasonable.

JMO

I agree with you IF it is a private service. Only tell the family and it's private. But, it you want people to honor your grandchild I can see not allowing the murderer to attend. Casey is the only one who should be on the not invited list IMO

[shelbar53]

I personally can't wait until she is properly buried, but Conway already made note that Caylee will not be there? :confused: Casey will be watching during her rec time. It's a farce IMO

I think its a farce because the new doc dump is coming next week, they are hoping the memorial will take attention away from that. IMO

[phredd4]

Do you really believe they are comfortable? With their daughter in jail, probably to serve life in prison eventually? And their granddaughter dead at the hands of their daughter?

God forbid I should ever live so "comfortably". :sad:

I don't think they are "comfortable" either. In many other cases, just because one has life insurance doesn't mean one will ever live peacefully and comfortably. It doesn't work that way. When you lose someone you dearly love the money means zilch.

[bchand]

Boy I missed that one. Any direction you can point me in to find it?

Neffy, it was one of the jail visits. I'll see if I can find it.

[Maddie]

I'm not so sure they have "made" anything off this case? Are you? Got those figures?

Apparently not or I wouldn't be asking. We seem to be focused on the money being made, or the profits, from this case, I'm asking how much, if any money, the Anthony's have made.

[kindeekat]

I'm not so sure they have "made" anything off this case? Are you? Got those figures?



That poster didn't claim anything. Because you're "not so sure" means that poster can't speculate?

Defending people who are obviously taking money for artifacts or information about their murdered grandbaby...is no reason to take it out on other posters. jmo

[Neffy]

I personally understand the uninvited guests for a funeral. Believe me, I do. Sometimes it is just not "right" for certain people to make an appearance under certain circustances. I don't know why it can't be understood here. It happens and it is reasonable.

JMO

If that's the case you have a private service. Public no longer applies.

How is that not understood?

[?noanswer]

I hope not one person buys those's pictures.......

That's why people sell pictures/storys. The media buys them because they make money off them too. I keep wondering when the economy is going to hit all these cable shows. How can they keep spending all that money? One would think their advertising revenues would be down. They don't make money by people watching, they make money from advertisers.

Having said all that, I have mixed feelings about the sale of the pictures. If KC can't pay for her defense, then the taxpayers will have to pay for it. Which is better, pay it thru the tax system or thru the products we buy that pay for the advertising to continue the shows? JMO

[Lapis]

Not positive,

but I think the Sunshine Law excludes releasing the images of minor children that are victims of a crime.

At least that is what I remember when it was posted here, and under exclusion from documents that could be released.

Of course I remember some images of Caylee in documents released, so I'm not sure.

One of the more legal eagles might have a better take on that.

I would think that would relate to live victims and showing them in their victimized state. For example: child pornography or the autopsy photos. JMO

[ConchGirl]

It is? How so? If I were them, and People Mag came to me and offered me money for an interview, IF I were inclined to give an interview, I would accept. What would you have them say? "No....sorry, I'll do the interview......but I won't take money"? Or......."No I won't talk at all. Even though this is the biggest case in probably U.S. judicial history"?

I guess the bottom line is that I don't see giving an interview, for payment as "profiting"........because that word, on here, is always used in a derogatory manner. "Profiting" has a distinct bad connotation. I don't see it as profiting.

:confused: prof·it (prft)
n.
1. An advantageous gain or return; benefit.
2. The return received on a business undertaking after all operating expenses have been met.
3.
a. The return received on an investment after all charges have been paid. Often used in the plural.
b. The rate of increase in the net worth of a business enterprise in a given accounting period.
c. Income received from investments or property.
d. The amount received for a commodity or service in excess of the original cost.
v. prof·it·ed, prof·it·ing, prof·its
Wake up and smell the coffee :biggrin:

[dixie77]

I completely agree. I remember that statement well. There wasn't even a pause -- Cindy jumped right in before Casey could finish talking.

Why, why, why would Cindy say that Casey could, in effect, continue to be the lazy, stealing parasite that she has been in the past, continuing to have her mother support her. I just don't get it.

===================================

Because Cindy loves Casey and she would do anything to have her back.....even with Casey's old ways. jmo

[Neffy]

Apparently not or I wouldn't be asking. We seem to be focused on the money being made, or the profits, from this case, I'm asking how much, if any money, the Anthony's have made.

Over and above their cost of living expenses? Let's see two car payments, fuel, insurance, mortgage, utilities CELL PHONES, food, dog food, vet, George's hospital stay, medications, their own attorney........

[?noanswer]

Good question wonder if someone on PD ran ZFG's plate......

According to LP, the car was registered to ZG's oldest son. There is also a record of anyone who uses the system that tracks license plates. NG agreed with him on the system. JMO

[happygert]

Do you really believe they are comfortable? With their daughter in jail, probably to serve life in prison eventually? And their granddaughter dead at the hands of their daughter?

God forbid I should ever live so "comfortably". :sad:

Did you not read? Yes they sure are living comfortable.......no jobs. no work and yet they are still living in same house paying there bills 2 mortages, 2 car paymenst 2 cell phones, home phone, car insurance, lights, gas, water, garbage, house insurance, food, dog food, gas in cars, meds. hosptial stays (for a hoax on the public once again to garner symapthy), laywers, P.I's..credit cards. For someone that was behind in there bills before .. they sure can pay them now and they've even added some higher price bills.. Yes I'd say they are very living comfortable got more money now then they ever did...NOT ONE of them HAVE WORKED a DAY IN OVER 7 1/2 months.......MUST have found a WIND FALL....oh wait they did..BLOOD MONEY I guess they figured since they supported her for a little over 2 years it was her turn to SUPPORT them NOW......JMHO....

[Kokopelli]

Why Joe Biden?

Hi Willow...just have to say I have enjoyed your posts and many many others....well I heard Joe Biden speak from the heart about the pain of losing his fist wife and child...he knows about pain and healing. A very moving speaker....but don't think the A's could handle Bidens' message of healing to those out in the community that are hurting.

[kindeekat]

Not positive,

but I think the Sunshine Law excludes releasing the images of minor children that are victims of a crime.

At least that is what I remember when it was posted here, and under exclusion from documents that could be released.

Of course I remember some images of Caylee in documents released, so I'm not sure.

One of the more legal eagles might have a better take on that.




Oh that's promising. Maybe at least after Casey is convicted she won't be able to make $$$$ off her crime; not so sure about Cindy and perhaps George.

[~jomomma~]

Did you not read? Yes they sure are living comfortable.......no jobs. no work and yet they are still living in same house paying there bills 2 mortages, 2 car paymenst 2 cell phones, home phone, car insurance, lights, gas, water, garbage, house insurance, food, dog food, gas in cars, meds. hosptial stays (for a hoax on the public once again to garner symapthy), laywers, P.I's..credit cards. For someone that was behind in there bills before .. they sure can pay them now and they've even added some higher price bills.. Yes I'd say they are very living comfortable got more money now then they ever did...NOT ONE of them HAVE WORKED a DAY IN OVER 7 1/2 months.......MUST have found a WIND FALL....oh wait they did..BLOOD MONEY I guess they figured since they supported her for a little over 2 years it was her turn to SUPPORT them NOW......JMHO....


exactly!!! :thumbup:

[gramvof14]

:ohmy: Now that is disgusting.
WELL ITA it is disgusting, its one thing to give an interview like the entertainers do, its another thing to give it about your murdered grandchild by your daughter.An make money off her may she rest in piece.

[kindeekat]

Did you not read? Yes they sure are living comfortable.......no jobs. no work and yet they are still living in same house paying there bills 2 mortages, 2 car paymenst 2 cell phones, home phone, car insurance, lights, gas, water, garbage, house insurance, food, dog food, gas in cars, meds. hosptial stays (for a hoax on the public once again to garner symapthy), laywers, P.I's..credit cards. For someone that was behind in there bills before .. they sure can pay them now and they've even added some higher price bills.. Yes I'd say they are very living comfortable got more money now then they ever did...NOT ONE of them HAVE WORKED a DAY IN OVER 7 1/2 months.......MUST have found a WIND FALL....oh wait they did..BLOOD MONEY I guess they figured since they supported her for a little over 2 years it was her turn to SUPPORT them NOW......JMHO....

TELL IT! :thumbsup:

[ConchGirl]

Did you not read? Yes they sure are living comfortable.......no jobs. no work and yet they are still living in same house paying there bills 2 mortages, 2 car paymenst 2 cell phones, home phone, car insurance, lights, gas, water, garbage, house insurance, food, dog food, gas in cars, meds. hosptial stays (for a hoax on the public once again to garner symapthy), laywers, P.I's..credit cards. For someone that was behind in there bills before .. they sure can pay them now and they've even added some higher price bills.. Yes I'd say they are very living comfortable got more money now then they ever did...NOT ONE of them HAVE WORKED a DAY IN OVER 7 1/2 months.......MUST have found a WIND FALL....oh wait they did..BLOOD MONEY I guess they figured since they supported her for a little over 2 years it was her turn to SUPPORT them NOW......JMHO....

Thank you Happy for posting the obvious.

[happygert]

That's why people sell pictures/storys. The media buys them because they make money off them too. I keep wondering when the economy is going to hit all these cable shows. How can they keep spending all that money? One would think their advertising revenues would be down. They don't make money by people watching, they make money from advertisers.

Having said all that, I have mixed feelings about the sale of the pictures. If KC can't pay for her defense, then the taxpayers will have to pay for it. Which is better, pay it thru the tax system or thru the products we buy that pay for the advertising to continue the shows? JMO

Heres going to be the next shocker........IMO phots will be sold of the autopsy....they will leak out imo.....and or pictures that defense team took.....jmho..

[Neffy]

Neffy, it was one of the jail visits. I'll see if I can find it.

Don't go to any trouble unless you have it handy.

[Pruddennce]

They are making more money than they spend? How so? Do you know their income vs. expenses? Please share.

what income? do you mean having an occupation that pays you a salary?

last I heard, neither one of them are employed.

best regards,
Pru

[lovelaw]

Apparently not or I wouldn't be asking. We seem to be focused on the money being made, or the profits, from this case, I'm asking how much, if any money, the Anthony's have made.

I don't know Maddie...about the Anthonys. But, at least 200K has been profitted by the sale of photos. Granted, that money is for Casey's defense.

BUT...ONE thing I DO know is that if I were Caylee's grandmother, I would sell my HOME, my CAR, my JEWELRY, and the friggin' CLOTHES OFF MY BACK before I'd sell pictures of my murdered GRAND DAUGHTER!

[summer4meplz]

Not positive,

but I think the Sunshine Law excludes releasing the images of minor children that are victims of a crime.

At least that is what I remember when it was posted here, and under exclusion from documents that could be released.

Of course I remember some images of Caylee in documents released, so I'm not sure.

One of the more legal eagles might have a better take on that.


omg I hope Caylee isn't in the "really really bad photos"

[openminded]

===================================

Because Cindy loves Casey and she would do anything to have her back.....even with Casey's old ways. jmo

Cindy the Inevitable Enabler.

[summer4meplz]

Apparently not or I wouldn't be asking. We seem to be focused on the money being made, or the profits, from this case, I'm asking how much, if any money, the Anthony's have made.


apparently enough to live on for the past 8 months.....

[phredd4]

Did you not read? Yes they sure are living comfortable.......no jobs. no work and yet they are still living in same house paying there bills 2 mortages, 2 car paymenst 2 cell phones, home phone, car insurance, lights, gas, water, garbage, house insurance, food, dog food, gas in cars, meds. hosptial stays (for a hoax on the public once again to garner symapthy), laywers, P.I's..credit cards. For someone that was behind in there bills before .. they sure can pay them now and they've even added some higher price bills.. Yes I'd say they are very living comfortable got more money now then they ever did...NOT ONE of them HAVE WORKED a DAY IN OVER 7 1/2 months.......MUST have found a WIND FALL....oh wait they did..BLOOD MONEY I guess they figured since they supported her for a little over 2 years it was her turn to SUPPORT them NOW......JMHO....

I thought someone here said CA was still getting her salary until Caylee was found. She was the major breadwinner anyway. Not saying that's enough for their bills, just pointing out what has been said here in the past.

[lovelaw]

what income? do you mean having an occupation that pays you a salary?

last I heard, neither one of them are employed.

best regards,
Pru

EXACTLY PRU!~

Funny............they sure seem to be paying all of their bills THESE days!

[bchand]

Don't go to any trouble unless you have it handy.

Neffy - I can't stand listening to them tonight. I'll find it though and make sure I note the particular audio and time where Cindy tells her she won't have to work when she gets out of jail.

[happygert]

what income? do you mean having an occupation that pays you a salary?

last I heard, neither one of them are employed.

best regards,
Pru


You are correct Pru .. Neither have worked one day in over 7 1/2 months soon to be 8 months in 11 days....Humm just wondering if they claim all their "income on taxes".. wonder how that works?....bet they dont......jmo..

[kindeekat]

Thank you Happy for posting the obvious.




sometimes the obvious needs to be stated...um...obviously! :biggrin:

[shelbar53]

Morgan keeps saying, all casey has to do is say whether or not the picture he has is the babysitter zenida or not. Is that a trick, if she answers, does that force her to answer all the questions and NOT be able to take the 5th? Why does he keep saying, all she hasd to do is look at the pic and say yes or no?

[dixie77]

I am still wondering why Casey will not look at the pic of ZG and say she's not the one. That would end it. But that would make it too easy for her family.......they wouldnt have to do the deposition. I think Casey enjoys putting them thru the wringer. I'm still waiting for her to throw them all under the bus any day now.
I wonder if George will be at the memorial? jmo

[happygert]

EXACTLY PRU!~

Funny............they sure seem to be paying all of their bills THESE days!

Yes em lovelaw they sure are and even added a few high priced ones.....moo

[kindeekat]

EXACTLY PRU!~

Funny............they sure seem to be paying all of their bills THESE days!



cars in the drive...gas in the cars...clothing on the peeps...haircuts...psych. wards....food on the table....house NOT in forclosure...


hmmmmm let me think on this. :glare:

[desmom]

If I'm not mistaken, the Anthonys did not want Tim Miller to search for Caylee? In their mind, he was only searching for a DEAD Caylee. Right or wrong.

So how can you blame that expense on them? When they did not want it?

Cindy told Nancy Grace she invited Tim Miller to come to Florida to search for Caylee. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html And yes she did say, "So Tim came out here with the understanding that, you know, we believe that Caylee is alive and that we wanted him to assist us in looking for her as a live person." BUT.....

Cindy is not a stupid woman. IMO, she had researched TES and she knew they were going to work with LE and their evidence and not her whims. IIRC, when TES was in town is when Cindy made a BOMBSHELL announcement of a reputable sighting of Caylee in Dallas. When Mr. Miller did not beckon to her whims and run to Dallas, is when she turned on him.

jmo

[gramvof14]

Did you not read? Yes they sure are living comfortable.......no jobs. no work and yet they are still living in same house paying there bills 2 mortages, 2 car paymenst 2 cell phones, home phone, car insurance, lights, gas, water, garbage, house insurance, food, dog food, gas in cars, meds. hosptial stays (for a hoax on the public once again to garner symapthy), laywers, P.I's..credit cards. For someone that was behind in there bills before .. they sure can pay them now and they've even added some higher price bills.. Yes I'd say they are very living comfortable got more money now then they ever did...NOT ONE of them HAVE WORKED a DAY IN OVER 7 1/2 months.......MUST have found a WIND FALL....oh wait they did..BLOOD MONEY I guess they figured since they supported her for a little over 2 years it was her turn to SUPPORT them NOW......JMHO....
WOW you rock happygert you sure named pretty much everything, where is all that money coming from??????JMOO

[Pruddennce]

===================================

Because Cindy loves Casey and she would do anything to have her back.....even with Casey's old ways. jmo

love/hate/rivals

Cindy would do anything to get back HER OWN LIFE in the bubble home.

and of course to have little Caylee alive.

but Caylee's dead, and at that point in time, she wasnt found yet. Cindy wanted it all to go away...who wouldnt want that. But, instead of saying, yes, good job, blah blah, we will work together on that, she says, NP, you wont have to work!

as her own forged checks by Casey are made public....

my point is, these people should have taken shelter. who is more psychotic? Casey said NOTHING to the press. <----smart psycho

Cindy couldnt stop talking <----not so smart psycho

the line is blurred.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[bchand]

what income? do you mean having an occupation that pays you a salary?

last I heard, neither one of them are employed.

best regards,
Pru


Right, normally in this bad economy, people who lose their jobs also lose their cars, their homes, etc.

Not the Anthonys.

Obama should know their secret to help everyone else.

[dixie77]

Morgan keeps saying, all casey has to do is say whether or not the picture he has is the babysitter zenida or not. Is that a trick, if she answers, does that force her to answer all the questions and NOT be able to take the 5th? Why does he keep saying, all she hasd to do is look at the pic and say yes or no?
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Our minds r working alike tonite. lol

[Lapis]

The truth is folks.....we don't know how the Anthonys are living....they could be borrowing from family members or friends (we don't know their circumstances) I can imagine my family coming to my aid....they could be receiving benefits from the state or feds on disabilty or from a victims' fund.....they could have cashed in the remainder of any retirement benefits they may have....maybe their creditors have cut them some slack for fear of bad publicity....maybe they have applied for bankruptcy protection...or they could have sold photographs or been paid for interviews.....in reality its none of our business. I have trouble with the certitude of some and the unwillingness to see there may be an reasonable explaination. Not everything these people do is sinister and not everything they do is innocent. We may never know and don't have any right to know. There are things beyond our control and we just have to be accepting of others opinions. Thanks for listening. JMO

[Neffy]

Neffy - I can't stand listening to them tonight. I'll find it though and make sure I note the particular audio and time where Cindy tells her she won't have to work when she gets out of jail.

I hear you on that. You don't even have to go that far. If you run across the date I can go from there :)

[Sandy]

I really wish people would grieve & have moments of silence for Caylee. Its a terrible economic crisis. Don't buy any photos ..companies or individuals. Spend your money & your affection on your own loved ones. If Cindy expects to belittle people ,forget her , don't go to the church. If Baez expects to get rich from his only client, why do you want someone else's murdered baby photos.? My children & grandchild are beautiful & I enjoy their photos because I know them & love them. I feel for Caylee ,but she is in heaven safe in God's arms. Boycott the Anthonys ,don't give them another cent!!!:thumbdown::thumbdown:

[ConchGirl]

love/hate/rivals

Cindy would do anything to get back HER OWN LIFE in the bubble home.

and of course to have little Caylee alive.

but Caylee's dead, and at that point in time, she wasnt found yet. Cindy wanted it all to go away...who wouldnt want that. But, instead of saying, yes, good job, blah blah, we will work together on that, she says, NP, you wont have to work!

as her own forged checks by Casey are made public....

my point is, these people should have taken shelter. who is more psychotic? Casey said NOTHING to the press. <----smart psycho

Cindy couldnt stop talking <----not so smart psycho

the line is blurred.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

From Shirley
To Cindy 7/29
dear cindy, we are sick over this.we are so worried about caylee. And we are very worried about you. Iv’e seen so many interviews. Now they discuss you after you leave. The only one who has remained kind to you, is mike on m and j. – then today you blew it, for every ones sake..yours caylee, and yes even casey, stay off tv or act like the person y ou really are, a nice person, who has worked for 30 yrs, making the home and raising a nice family. You are taking the spotlite off caylee. We know you love casey, but what about your future.
http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155446.pdf pg 26

[gramvof14]

Cindy told Nancy Grace she invited Tim Miller to come to Florida to search for Caylee. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html And yes she did say, "So Tim came out here with the understanding that, you know, we believe that Caylee is alive and that we wanted him to assist us in looking for her as a live person." BUT.....

Cindy is not a stupid woman. IMO, she had researched TES and she knew they were going to work with LE and their evidence and not her whims. IIRC, when TES was in town is when Cindy made a BOMBSHELL announcement of a reputable sighting of Caylee in Dallas. When Mr. Miller did not beckon to her whims and run to Dallas, is when she turned on him.

jmo
Yes an at the same time putting another child in harms way by showing her picture.JMOO

[happygert]

I thought someone here said CA was still getting her salary until Caylee was found. She was the major breadwinner anyway. Not saying that's enough for their bills, just pointing out what has been said here in the past.

That was cindy...when talking to either LE or FBI someone.....cant remember exactly who... Do you really think someone is going to pay a salary for 8 months? maybe a month or 2 but noway 8 without them working? If so I want that job...and if she took a FML they dont get paid while there off at least thats my understanding,,,

[Lapis]

Morgan keeps saying, all casey has to do is say whether or not the picture he has is the babysitter zenida or not. Is that a trick, if she answers, does that force her to answer all the questions and NOT be able to take the 5th? Why does he keep saying, all she hasd to do is look at the pic and say yes or no?

IMO that will not make the case go away. They get that admission from her and then move for summary judgment on the basis that she was not the babysitter and yet Casey pointed the finger at her. JMO

[shelbar53]

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Our minds r working alike tonite. lol

:w00t: this case has made me lose my mind

[bchand]

The truth is folks.....we don't know how the Anthonys are living....they could be borrowing from family members or friends (we don't know their circumstances) I can imagine my family coming to my aid....they could be receiving benefits from the state or feds on disabilty or from a victims' fund.....they could have cashed in the remainder of any retirement benefits they may have....maybe their creditors have cut them some slack for fear of bad publicity....maybe they have applied for bankruptcy protection...or they could have sold photographs or been paid for interviews.....in reality its none of our business. I have trouble with the certitude of some and the unwillingness to see there may be an reasonable explaination. Not everything these people do is sinister and not everything they do is innocent. We may never know and don't have any right to know. There are things beyond our control and we just have to be accepting of others opinions. Thanks for listening. JMO

Did you hear their financial situation during the bond hearing Lapis? Most everything had been cashed in to get out of the debt George put them in. They have very little equity in their home and they've broken ties with alot of their family who WERE there to support them.

You're right - there are other possibilities - it's just after being exposed to them all this time, most don't have a high opinion of them.

They do tend to bring out the sinister in people, that's for sure.

[kindeekat]

love/hate/rivals

Cindy would do anything to get back HER OWN LIFE in the bubble home.

and of course to have little Caylee alive.

but Caylee's dead, and at that point in time, she wasnt found yet. Cindy wanted it all to go away...who wouldnt want that. But, instead of saying, yes, good job, blah blah, we will work together on that, she says, NP, you wont have to work!

as her own forged checks by Casey are made public....

my point is, these people should have taken shelter. who is more psychotic? Casey said NOTHING to the press. <----smart psycho

Cindy couldnt stop talking <----not so smart psycho

the line is blurred.

IMO

best regards,
Pru




oh yeah, blurry indeed.

[Neffy]

The truth is folks.....we don't know how the Anthonys are living....they could be borrowing from family members or friends (we don't know their circumstances) I can imagine my family coming to my aid....they could be receiving benefits from the state or feds on disabilty or from a victims' fund.....they could have cashed in the remainder of any retirement benefits they may have....maybe their creditors have cut them some slack for fear of bad publicity....maybe they have applied for bankruptcy protection...or they could have sold photographs or been paid for interviews.....in reality its none of our business. I have trouble with the certitude of some and the unwillingness to see there may be an reasonable explaination. Not everything these people do is sinister and not everything they do is innocent. We may never know and don't have any right to know. There are things beyond our control and we just have to be accepting of others opinions. Thanks for listening. JMO

Could be that.

Or is it?

If the "family" isn't montarily supportive of Cindy she can always use the old check routing number routine............

Sorry Lapis. I think they're the scourge of the earth.

How many families of soldiers killed in Iraq have gotten a free pass by their mortgage companies? Utilities etc.

If you thing the banks are in financial crisis now what do you think would happen if they gave all families of murdered victims free passes.

Knowing a family is making money off of a victim is society's business.
How do you think laws get passed? You of all people should realize that.

Sorry have to strongly disagree with you on this.

[kindeekat]

Yep. The baby's dead, the heck with her. It's all about trying to get the princess's sentence reduced and apparently, it's also about making money off the baby ... cause she's dead now, after all. What's the harm.

Where in God's name is the honor in that?




I really hate to agree with you BUT; I have long gotten the sense that the "baby is dead" so let's move along in this saga.

C'est la morte.

[bchand]

Could be that.

Or is it?

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[Lapis]

Did you hear their financial situation during the bond hearing Lapis? Most everything had been cashed in to get out of the debt George put them in. They have very little equity in their home and they've broken ties with alot of their family who WERE there to support them.

You're right - there are other possibilities - it's just after being exposed to them all this time, most don't have a high opinion of them.

They do tend to bring out the sinister in people, that's for sure.

Believe me I understand how some feel the way they do....but I guess I just don't see the point in arguing over this. It really has nothing to do with Caylee Anthony's murder. But thanks for at least listening. JMO

[Neffy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/craig_ferguson_01.jpg

I did that with you in mind ROFLMAO!

[bchand]

Believe me I understand how some feel the way they do....but I guess I just don't see the point in arguing over this. It really has nothing to do with Caylee Anthony's murder. But thanks for at least listening. JMO

I love your input !! You're welcome.

[Lapis]

Could be that.

Or is it?

If the "family" isn't montarily supportive of Cindy she can always use the old check routing number routine............

Sorry Lapis. I think they're the scourge of the earth.

How many families of soldiers killed in Iraq have gotten a free pass by their mortgage companies? Utilities etc.

If you thing the banks are in financial crisis now what do you think would happen if they gave all families of murdered victims free passes.

Knowing a family is making money off of a victim is society's business.
How do you think laws get passed? You of all people should realize that.

Sorry have to strongly disagree with you on this.

I son't think you understood the spirit of the post. But that's okay. You are right....now what? JMO

[lovelaw]

Yep. The baby's dead, the heck with her. It's all about trying to get the princess's sentence reduced and apparently, it's also about making money off the baby ... cause she's dead now, after all. What's the harm.

Where in God's name is the honor in that?

Sad.....but, I believe, probably true. It is as if Caylee has been scratched from the list of priorities...AS IF she EVER WAS one. Now it is all about saving Casey, no matter the "cost." Sadder yet, is that had Caylee been a priority, Casey would not now HAVE to be. *sigh*

NO HONOR in this! None!~

[bchand]

I did that with you in mind ROFLMAO!

Oh shoot. lol I thought I caught you off guard.

[kindeekat]

Could be that.

Or is it?

If the "family" isn't montarily supportive of Cindy she can always use the old check routing number routine............

Sorry Lapis. I think they're the scourge of the earth.

How many families of soldiers killed in Iraq have gotten a free pass by their mortgage companies? Utilities etc.

If you thing the banks are in financial crisis now what do you think would happen if they gave all families of murdered victims free passes.

Knowing a family is making money off of a victim is society's business.
How do you think laws get passed? You of all people should realize that.

Sorry have to strongly disagree with you on this.



The anthonys were already in distress when all this happened, right? George was off work for a long time with a knee replacement?

IF they are being supported and financed by family, savings, whatever, that's great. But evidence suggests they are getting support from elsewhere.

IF and I say IF that $$$ is from a source which springs from murdered baby Caylee...well, we ought to understand those dynamics in juxtaposition to other factors. imo.

[happygert]

WOW you rock happygert you sure named pretty much everything, where is all that money coming from??????JMOO

Exactly! where's it coming from?..well we know cindy was bashing g's
sister what did she call her bipolar..something to her mental status.IMO she did that. because they wouldn't help even tho her hubby has lots of money .Rick sure isn't going to help after the e-mails..

They are making money from selling videos, pictures, interviews, was begging for donations to search for Caylee , never did a search other then their own back yard..Only time they ever showed up at a search site was to cause a scene to get searchers to stop... never offered on searcher a bottle of water...(btw you never see cindy without one).. I'd say they are making a fortune off of their DEAD GRANDDAUGHTER.. I guess crime does pay..It is for the A's anyway.....I guess they A's think were all stupid....
How many could pay all those bills and not work a day in 7 1/2 months
and add more to the mix... I know I couldn't... jmho...
IMO...

[ConchGirl]

8/14/08 Email from Cindy’s brother Rick to Cindy
Cindy, You guys need to quit making statements on TV. You sound like morons. You have both lost your minds. People want to hurt you for being so stupid. Casey could give a rats *** about Caylee. Her boyfriend can’t even stand her for what she did. There was no kidnapping and you know it. This charade has gone on long enough. How could you believe a ridiculous story like this. You guys look like the stupidest people on the planet. The more George opens his mouth the more asisnine he sounds. You guys need counseling right away. After the police spoke today and said that there is not 1 speck of evidence that points to a kidnapping, you said something really stupid. You said that since Casey does not have Caylee then she must have been kidnapped. Cindy, Caylee is dead. Casey will lie to her own grave. Bet on it. She is a sociopath and can not tell the truth. Caylee may have died in an accident but Casey will lie to the end. You just need to quit talking to the media. You are not helping your cause. People that used to sympathize with you now hate you for being so ignorant.


http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155446.pdf pg 41 emails
I wonder if Cindy's family is on the list of who is invited to this farce. jmo

[?noanswer]

That may have been his plan, but I think it may backfire. The money will dwindle and he'll still be stuck with all of his stupid statements to the press. JMO


I have heard that the defense can request the State pay when they run out of funds, but it would be at a reduced rate. If that is true, could the State evaluate how much money they have already spent and take that into consideration when/if they reimburse? JMO

[Lapis]

I have heard that the defense can request the State pay when they run out of funds, but it would be at a reduced rate. If that is true, could the State evaluate how much money they have already spent and take that into consideration when/if they reimburse? JMO

Unfortunately that's not the way it works. Nice thought though. LOL

[Neffy]

I son't think you understood the spirit of the post. But that's okay. You are right....now what? JMO

I understood your point or spirit if you prefer to say and I don't agree with it.

I believe I'm also right about Casey being a murderer.

Am I right again?

I would like to see any sales boycotted from all of the Anthony family members and I'd like to see Casey on that ride to prison.

I would like to see the law expanded from ironically the intent to protect families of murdered victims to now include the families of murder victims from profitting and using it to earn a living and expressly to fund a defense of the suspect charged with murdering the victim.

[Remy]

It is? How so? If I were them, and People Mag came to me and offered me money for an interview, IF I were inclined to give an interview, I would accept. What would you have them say? "No....sorry, I'll do the interview......but I won't take money"? Or......."No I won't talk at all. Even though this is the biggest case in probably U.S. judicial history"?

I guess the bottom line is that I don't see giving an interview, for payment as "profiting"........because that word, on here, is always used in a derogatory manner. "Profiting" has a distinct bad connotation. I don't see it as profiting.

There interview, for money, with People is not only about the money. It shows how hypocritical they are when they then had the nerve to blame the media if Caylee was found dead.

The media, in their minds, despite them paying the A's, keeping Caylee's picture everywhere were considered maggots and parasites by the family.

But, I guess the media is great when they give you a check?:mad:

[Lapis]

church is wired for "television" fgs. Wow, that's sick.

Something wrong with this country and our system. Something very wrong.

Kat

Lots of churches broadcast services. My church has radio broadcasts for shut ins. Its just a regular old Presbyterian Church. I don't find this odd at all. JMO

[ConchGirl]

Exactly! where's it coming from?..well we know cindy was bashing g's
sister what did she call her bipolar..something to her mental status.IMO she did that. because they wouldn't help even tho her hubby has lots of money .Rick sure isn't going to help after the e-mails..

They are making money from selling videos, pictures, interviews, was begging for donations to search for Caylee , never did a search other then their own back yard..Only time they ever showed up at a search site was to cause a scene to get searchers to stop... never offered on searcher a bottle of water...(btw you never see cindy without one).. I'd say they are making a fortune off of their DEAD GRANDDAUGHTER.. I guess crime does pay..It is for the A's anyway.....I guess they A's think were all stupid....
How many could pay all those bills and not work a day in 7 1/2 months
and add more to the mix... I know I couldn't... jmho...
IMO...

Right on. No sympathy from me. Let's not forget that the Casa de Anthony is special. moo

[need2no]

Did you hear their financial situation during the bond hearing Lapis? Most everything had been cashed in to get out of the debt George put them in. They have very little equity in their home and they've broken ties with alot of their family who WERE there to support them.

You're right - there are other possibilities - it's just after being exposed to them all this time, most don't have a high opinion of them.

They do tend to bring out the sinister in people, that's for sure.

At the bond hearing it was stated:

C & G purchased their house in 1989 for $90,900. According to Cindy the bank assessed the house for around $179K, (she said "in that range") in 2005 when they applied for a re fi. Pros. said they have a current mortgage balance of $121K and approx. 60K in equity. Cindy shot back with she thought the mortgage balance was more like $117K.

It also came out there is a default judgement from Citibank in the amount of $12,367.54. Cindy remarked that she knew she was behind on some bills when the pros. brought up the outstanding judgement.:ohmy:

At this hearing Cindy also said she had 5 weeks of PTO/vacation, and stated she was told she would be compensated as long as it takes to find Caylee. She explained she works for a big corporation who has funds for these kind of things. She advised the court she would tap into these funds to have an income.

[Lapis]

I understood your point or spirit if you prefer to say and I don't agree with it.

I believe I'm also right about Casey being a murderer.

Am I right again?

I would like to see any sales boycotted from all of the Anthony family members and I'd like to see Casey on that ride to prison.

I would like to see the law expanded from ironically the intent to protect families of murdered victims to now include the families of murder victims from profitting and using it to earn a living.

As I said you are right. There is no way there is an innocent explaination for any of this. I ask again Now What? JMO

[CeruleanBleu]

Hi everyone, Is it true that Cindy will be selling the new
"Caylee Forever in Our Hearts" bracelets at the church?

[?noanswer]

I think that is part of the fascination here; this is a family trainwreck and you can't believe it's happening but you can't look away...

I agree. This sorta reminds me of the time that there was a huge flood on the MS river in St. Louis. People were calling in to the radio station about the experience. One lady called in and was griping about all the people that were gawking at the scene. She went on to say "My children and I went down to see the sight, but we weren't gawking, we were veiwing a historical happening"!! So that what we can say "We are participating in a historical event". JMO

[kindeekat]

Looks to me like they are attempting to live off of the proceeds of Caylee's blood money, before they even get it. Lifetime movie of the week, Book Deals, Photos, Videos.



:sigh:
:read:


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I think some investors are willing to invest now, recoup later.

It's SICK.

[Neffy]

Lots of churches broadcast services. My church has radio broadcasts for shut ins. Its just a regular old Presbyterian Church. I don't find this odd at all. JMO

Do you find it odd that a church turns away certain individuals from a public memorial they are "hosting".

[lovelaw]

There interview, for money, with People is not only about the money. It shows how hypocritical they are when they then had the nerve to blame the media if Caylee was found dead.

The media, in their minds, despite them paying the A's, keeping Caylee's picture everywhere were considered maggots and parasites by the family.

But, I guess the media is great when they give you a check?:mad:

Exactly!~ Money makes the heart grow fonder.

[bchand]

Lots of churches broadcast services. My church has radio broadcasts for shut ins. Its just a regular old Presbyterian Church. I don't find this odd at all. JMO

My niece recently had a "celebration service" for her 2 yr old who died from cancer. She asked me to create a dvd from family videos, which I did.

When we walked into the funeral home, little Dante's voice was coming out of the speakers in the walls and the dvd was playing on a large screen tv up front.

It was different, but beautiful at the same time.

Times have changed.

[lovelaw]

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I think some investors are willing to invest now, recoup later.

It's SICK.

Ooooooooooooooo...I was just thinking the SAME thing!~

[ConchGirl]

Hi everyone, Is it true that Cindy will be selling the new
"Caylee Forever in Our Hearts" bracelets at the church?

I'm not buying whatever Cindy is selling. :sad:

[kindeekat]

I agree. This sorta reminds me of the time that there was a huge flood on the MS river in St. Louis. People were calling in to the radio station about the experience. One lady called in and was griping about all the people that were gawking at the scene. She went on to say "My children and I went down to see the sight, but we weren't gawking, we were veiwing a historical happening"!! So that what we can say "We are participating in a historical event". JMO




hey I might have BEEN there! I'm a local to you!

those jailhouse interviews...are really mini movies of the Anthony family dynamics. To me...well, they tell all. And I CAN't look away.

[bchand]

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I think some investors are willing to invest now, recoup later.

It's SICK.


I think I'd like to hear from Larry Garrison about now. He knows what they were offered. I never thought I'd look forward to one of his trashy books, but I hope he writes something about this case.

[WillowInFlight]

Hi everyone, Is it true that Cindy will be selling the new
"Caylee Forever in Our Hearts" bracelets at the church?

Oh I haven't heard that, how much are they selling for?

[desmom]

Re: The Anthonys and their finances...

This is the 2nd missing child case I have followed and the arguments are the same. If the family is not working, they are accused of getting rich off of donations. If and when the family returns to work, they are accused of giving up on the missing child.

Personally, I don't care because I would not even want to walk in these people's shoes. I may not agree with the family statements ..heck I may not even like them, BUT they have to have a roof over their head.

The A's have not upgraded their standard of living. They have not taken extravagant vacations, bought new cars or done a room add.

I may not like the A's statements or behavior, but I sure in the heck cannot deny them to pay their bills...utilities, mortgage, car payment, insurance etc. even if it comes out of donations.

jmo

[Remy]

If I'm not mistaken, the Anthonys did not want Tim Miller to search for Caylee? In their mind, he was only searching for a DEAD Caylee. Right or wrong.

So how can you blame that expense on them? When they did not want it?

Relates back to my maggot and parasite quote as it was Cindy who asked for Tim Miller to come to Orlando and then blasted him to the media when he arrived using the lovely names above.

If the A's thought Caylee had really been kidnapped how could they be sure she was still alive (I know, they were watching the kidnappers but give me a sec) or that the kidnapper didn't panic when the story broke and dumped Caylee somewhere and she wasn't able to find her way home?

[WillowInFlight]

I think I'd like to hear from Larry Garrison about now. He knows what they were offered. I never thought I'd look forward to one of his trashy books, but I hope he writes something about this case.

After all his emails, I am shocked that we haven't heard more from him.

[Lapis]

Do you find it odd that a church turns away certain individuals from a public memorial they are "hosting".

I don't know if it is the church turning people away. But I would think (hope?) that the pastor would counsel the family that that is not the Christian way. Ultimately I would think it would be the family's decision. There are circumstances where family members have been excluded from a funeral for a variety of reasons. I know when my grandfather died there were some of his brothers that my grandmother would have liked to disinvite. But she' was Italian and the old timers have trouble forgiving. LOL and JMO

[?noanswer]

Somehow I have trouble having any sympathy for Lois. Talk about inserting yourself into a tragic situation. The others yes, Lois no. Sorry JMO

I have read on another site (one that can't be linked) that Lois actually started that exchange of emails. I agree about no sympathy for her. JMO

[WillowInFlight]

Relates back to my maggot and parasite quote as it was Cindy who asked for Tim Miller to come to Orlando and then blasted him to the media when he arrived using the lovely names above.

If the A's thought Caylee had really been kidnapped how could they be sure she was still alive (I know, they were watching the kidnappers but give me a sec) or that the kidnapper didn't panic when the story broke and dumped Caylee somewhere and she wasn't able to find her way home?

Exactly, how I will never forget George making that statement, though he was quick to let us know that WE misunderstood him, what he actually meant was that "they" the family was being watched. :sneaky:

[Neffy]

As I said you are right. There is no way there is an innocent explaination for any of this. I ask again Now What? JMO

Same thing we always do, listen, vent and watch the wheels of justice slowly turn.

Of course there is always the request to shut the board down if you feel nothing else is to be said and you would like to see the discussion end.

I'm not quite sure if your in agreement or I'm being patronized and your goal is to back me into a corner throwing my hands up in the air.

For arguments sake lets say you really do agree. Pray tell the answer to your: Now what?

[kindeekat]

Hi everyone, Is it true that Cindy will be selling the new
"Caylee Forever in Our Hearts" bracelets at the church?




I imagine we'll see something we didn't even imagine.

lol. :blink:

[Pruddennce]

That was cindy...when talking to either LE or FBI someone.....cant remember exactly who... Do you really think someone is going to pay a salary for 8 months? maybe a month or 2 but noway 8 without them working? If so I want that job...and if she took a FML they dont get paid while there off at least thats my understanding,,,

right.

family leave, you dont get paid....your job is held a certain period of time.

disability, short term/long term gets prorated and then gets paid down until you hit the max. you might be kept on the books as an employee but classified as on leave....but the benefits run out and its not normally your full salary....most are able to supplement the disability with sick time and vacation...but when that runs out, its done.

you also dont accrue leave anymore...while on disability.

they could have thrown her a few perks, but usually it cannot be done as most companies are governed by 'set in stone benefits'....you cant do this for one employee, pay them endlessly at a whim, and not do it for another employee who might encounter a problem in life.

also, health insurance usually contributed by the employee and employer (in these days, its hard to find a company that pays 100% without employee contribution)...well, you can stay in their plan, but you have to pay into it.

in Cindy's case, she exhausted her 401K paying down a $50K debt which she says was George's and her brother says (in his email in the doc dump), he 'knows' it wasnt his....it was because of Casey.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[gaelicpeas]

I don't know if it is the church turning people away. But I would think (hope?) that the pastor would counsel the family that that is not the Christian way. Ultimately I would think it would be the family's decision. There are circumstances where family members have been excluded from a funeral for a variety of reasons. I know when my grandfather died there were some of his brothers that my grandmother would have liked to disinvite. But she' was Italian and the old timers have trouble forgiving. LOL and JMOI have never been to a funeral where people were "disinvited". But maybe that is just me....

[happygert]

The truth is folks.....we don't know how the Anthonys are living....they could be borrowing from family members or friends (we don't know their circumstances) I can imagine my family coming to my aid....they could be receiving benefits from the state or feds on disabilty or from a victims' fund.....they could have cashed in the remainder of any retirement benefits they may have....maybe their creditors have cut them some slack for fear of bad publicity....maybe they have applied for bankruptcy protection...or they could have sold photographs or been paid for interviews.....in reality its none of our business. I have trouble with the certitude of some and the unwillingness to see there may be an reasonable explaination. Not everything these people do is sinister and not everything they do is innocent. We may never know and don't have any right to know. There are things beyond our control and we just have to be accepting of others opinions. Thanks for listening. JMO


IMO they made it the publics business when they were begging for doantions to search for their GRANDDAUGHTER and never ONCE particpated in one active search.. They never even donated ONE bottle of water to the searchers (.Poster here on this board donated food and water to the searchers.) ..but yet they surround themselves with felons who never had searched for one child..IMO they scamed the public..They knew Caylee was dead...What did they do with all the donations they got? they sure didnt use it to search.. Where did the money GO?.. We also know Tim Miller sent GA to kinkos to get the $1,500 dollars worth of supplies that was donated to Tim and TES and GA NEVER brought them back and Tim had to buy them... So can you tell us where those supplies went? Poof they disappeared just like all the money that was donated... The A's have also sold videos, picture and interview BLOOD MONEY from their dead granddaughter...down right disgusting...This whole family is all about the money.. Its not about Caylee they could give 2 chit less that Caylee is laying in a 12x12cardboard box in the cooler on a shelf in a funeral home....jmho..
They are still selling " Have you seen me" tee shirts and bracelets.......all about the money......
Do I have any sympathy for this sick bunch ....NO......jmho..

[Neffy]

I don't know if it is the church turning people away. But I would think (hope?) that the pastor would counsel the family that that is not the Christian way. Ultimately I would think it would be the family's decision. There are circumstances where family members have been excluded from a funeral for a variety of reasons. I know when my grandfather died there were some of his brothers that my grandmother would have liked to disinvite. But she' was Italian and the old timers have trouble forgiving. LOL and JMO

I have to agree with you there LOL and do understand your point. But I believe that would be done at the funeral home aka Private service and no one has a right to be turning anyone away at a church public memorial.

I also would have assumed this family be counseled that no one is turned away and their demands were against their beliefs as I don't know one single solitary sole that would walk in that church that had a vendetta against Caylee nor she against them. It should have been explained that their demands could not be met and vetted thru their doors.

Looks like that didn't happen.

[lovelaw]

Hi everyone, Is it true that Cindy will be selling the new
"Caylee Forever in Our Hearts" bracelets at the church?

Oh Please! I hope not Cerulean. At church! What will they think of next?? Oh..man....I don't want to know!~

[mosey?]

Do you find it odd that a church turns away certain individuals from a public memorial they are "hosting".It's not odd. There are no weapons allowed, for instance, and a person refuses to disarm, it's the churches prerogotive to disallow entry. When you rent a hall in a church there are certain rules you agree to to follow when you sign the rental form. Above that the renter can set down reasonable rules, too.
Nothing strange about no camera's in a memorial service, especially this one. I think if the media were allowed to film, the true purpose of the memorial would become second priority.

[Lapis]

Same thing we always do, listen, vent and watch the wheels of justice slowly turn.

Of course there is always the request to shut the board down if you feel nothing else is to be said and you would like to see the discussion end.

I'm not quite sure if your in agreement or I'm being patronized and your goal is to back me into a corner throwing my hands up in the air.

For arguments sake lets say you really do agree. Pray tell the answer to your: Now what?

I'm not being patronizing. I offered several explainations for where the money may be coming from. Since one of the explainations was that they are profiting from there granddaughter's death. I agreed you are right. Would you like to just trade comments on how angry we are over the situation or perhaps move on to another subject. We are having another exchange about the proprieties of a church which may prove to be more fruitful. JMO

[?noanswer]

I am still wondering why Casey will not look at the pic of ZG and say she's not the one. That would end it. But that would make it too easy for her family.......they wouldnt have to do the deposition. I think Casey enjoys putting them thru the wringer. I'm still waiting for her to throw them all under the bus any day now.
I wonder if George will be at the memorial? jmo

Probably because her attorney is advising her not to. JMO

[WillowInFlight]

right.

family leave, you dont get paid....your job is held a certain period of time.

disability, short term/long term gets prorated and then gets paid down until you hit the max. you might be kept on the books as an employee but classified as on leave....but the benefits run out and its not normally your full salary....most are able to supplement the disability with sick time and vacation...but when that runs out, its done.

you also dont accrue leave anymore...while on disability.

they could have thrown her a few perks, but usually it cannot be done as most companies are governed by 'set in stone benefits'....you cant do this for one employee, pay them endlessly at a whim, and not do it for another employee who might encounter a problem in life.

also, health insurance usually contributed by the employee and employer (in these days, its hard to find a company that pays 100% without employee contribution)...well, you can stay in their plan, but you have to pay into it.

in Cindy's case, she exhausted her 401K paying down a $50K debt which she says was George's and her brother says (in his email in the doc cump), he 'knows' it wasnt his....it was because of Casey.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Pru, I love your posts, I truly do, And you may be be right, didn't George tell LE that at that point Cindy didn't not know about the check scam thing?

[desmom]

I have never been to a funeral where people were "disinvited". But maybe that is just me....

I haven't either Gaelicpeas.

[need2no]

I have read on another site (one that can't be linked) that Lois actually started that exchange of emails. I agree about no sympathy for her. JMO

Never doubted it for a second.

[Lapis]

IMO they made it the publics business when they were begging for doantions to search for their GRANDDAUGHTER and never ONCE particpated in one active search.. They never even donated ONE bottle of water to the searchers (.Poster here on this board donated food and water to the searchers.) ..but yet they surround themselves with felons who never had searched for one child..IMO they scamed the public..They knew Caylee was dead...What did they do with all the donations they got? they sure didnt use it to search.. Where did the money GO?.. We also know Tim Miller sent GA to kinkos to get the $1,500 dollars worth of supplies that was donated to Tim and TES and GA NEVER brought them back and Tim had to buy them... So can you tell us where those supplies went? Poof they disappeared just like all the money that was donated... The A's have also sold videos, picture and interview BLOOD MONEY from their dead granddaughter...down right disgusting...This whole family is all about the money.. Its not about Caylee they could give 2 chit less that Caylee is laying in a 12x12cardboard box in the cooler on a shelf in a funeral home....jmho..

Do I have any sympathy for this sick bunch ....NO......jmho..

Once again missed the point of the post....you are so certain your explaination is the only true one so......you are right and I am wrong. These people are the worst of mankind.....But the fact remains you do not know and neither do I.....JMO

[bchand]

Oh Please! I hope not Cerulean. At church! What will they think of next?? Oh..man....I don't want to know!~

Hopefully Cerulean's post was tongue-in-cheek?

[Heyes]

Right, normally in this bad economy, people who lose their jobs also lose their cars, their homes, etc.

Not the Anthonys.

Obama should know their secret to help everyone else.

LOL

Let's see, the anthony's seem to still have electricity, water, food, shelter, their cars are still in the driveway...yup they're paying their bills. With what money???? Hmmmm anyone remember the meet and greet and the tent and the donations? Their website selling t-shirts after Caylee was found???
Duh I wonder how their bills are paid and jewelry for "Caylee" is bought?
I can just hear Carlos Mancia saying De Dee DEE!
You're right if the anthony's aren't using Caylee's donations for their own personal use, then Obama should tap in and see their secret.

IMO

[TaraCrazyHair]

Excuse me for being a little confused as I read some of the posts

The public has demanded a memorial service, felt it was their right to have one but now they are having one, it is sinful on the part of the Anthony's?

Isn't it a bit of an oxymoron?

?

Personally, I never would have relented to public pressure if i were them

Private and be done with it

It is not like the child was murdered by a random stranger and all parties are are in deep in grief

This was murder by the mother ... the most horrible thing of all

I don't know ... but i never would have agreed to any public memorial if I were them

IMO

[Neffy]

It's not odd. There are no weapons allowed, for instance, and a person refuses to disarm, it's the churches prerogotive to disallow entry. When you rent a hall in a church there are certain rules you agree to to follow when you sign the rental form. Above that the renter can set down reasonable rules, too.
Nothing strange about no camera's in a memorial service, especially this one. I think if the media were allowed to film, the true purpose of the memorial would become second priority.

We're not talking armed intruders.

Were talking about a public memorial in a church. Turning away someone that the family doesn't like. No danger whatsoever to anyone.

[ConchGirl]

Re: The Anthonys and their finances...

This is the 2nd missing child case I have followed and the arguments are the same. If the family is not working, they are accused of getting rich off of donations. If and when the family returns to work, they are accused of giving up on the missing child.

Personally, I don't care because I would not even want to walk in these people's shoes. I may not agree with the family statements ..heck I may not even like them, BUT they have to have a roof over their head.

The A's have not upgraded their standard of living. They have not taken extravagant vacations, bought new cars or done a room add.

I may not like the A's statements or behavior, but I sure in the heck cannot deny them to pay their bills...utilities, mortgage, car payment, insurance etc. even if it comes out of donations.

jmo

Do you want to throw some of your extra cash my way? It personally makes me sick that they are living off of Caylee. They are not the only grandparents who are facing the fact that their child is a murderer. If I don't work, I can't pay my mortgage. What makes them so special? I agree they have not taken extravagant vacations but they have misled the entire county on false sightings of a live Caylee. Whoever said that crime doesn't pay is wrong in my opinion. Foreclosure is not in their future. Wait... we have more photos to sell...:chicken:

[Lapis]

I have to agree with you there LOL and do understand your point. But I believe that would be done at the funeral home aka Private service and no one has a right to be turning anyone away at a church public memorial.

I also would have assumed this family be counseled that no one is turned away and their demands were against their beliefs as I don't know one single solitary sole that would walk in that church that had a vendetta against Caylee nor she against them. It should have been explained that their demands could not be met and vetted thru their doors.

Looks like that didn't happen.

I agree. Of course we are assuming they are referring to the people we have heard were "disinvited". They may just be issuing a warning to those lovely people who showed up at their house and made fools of themselves. JMO

[Pruddennce]

Re: The Anthonys and their finances...

This is the 2nd missing child case I have followed and the arguments are the same. If the family is not working, they are accused of getting rich off of donations. If and when the family returns to work, they are accused of giving up on the missing child.

Personally, I don't care because I would not even want to walk in these people's shoes. I may not agree with the family statements ..heck I may not even like them, BUT they have to have a roof over their head.

The A's have not upgraded their standard of living. They have not taken extravagant vacations, bought new cars or done a room add.

I may not like the A's statements or behavior, but I sure in the heck cannot deny them to pay their bills...utilities, mortgage, car payment, insurance etc. even if it comes out of donations.

jmo

donations at one point in this case were supposed to go to a missing child cause/foundation. in this case, their own granddaughter was part of that cause. funds to find her.

desmom, thats precisely why those organizations should be somewhat controlled.....funds are to go toward the cause....not to enable someone to continue to live in their own home.

The Petersons ASKED for donations for them to put gas in their car to go see their son in prison. and for other personal use. well, they asked. they set up a 'help us fund', its intent was clear. and Im sure people have contributed. but its a whole other ballgame taking money for a specific cause and using it to keep a roof over your OWN head. thats committing fraud.

why are there 'find caylee' bracelets still for sale and t-shirts? she's been discovered and is deceased.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[CeruleanBleu]

Oh I haven't heard that, how much are they selling for?

I don't know the price, apparently she had a boatload of them made up.
Same one that Baez tried to sneak into jail for Casey.

[mosey?]

We're not talking armed intruders.

Were talking about a public memorial in a church. Turning away someone that the family doesn't like. No danger whatsoever to anyone.Neffy, Neffy. It was an example.
Where did you hear that there is a "list" of people that are not allowed entry? And is it the church's doing?

[lovelaw]

Hopefully Cerulean's post was tongue-in-cheek?

I sure hope so. I don't know her well enough to have caught that, if true. It DOES make me feel better though!~

[Neffy]

Excuse me for being a little confused as I read some of the posts

The public has demanded a memorial service, felt it was their right to have one but now they are having one, it is sinful on the part of the Anthony's?

Isn't it a bit of an oxymoron?

?

Personally, I never would have relented to public pressure if i were them

Private and be done with it

It is not like the child was murdered by a random stranger and all parties are are in deep in grief

This was murder by the mother ... the most horrible thing of all

I don't know ... but i never would have agreed to any public memorial if I were them

IMO


There was no public pressure or outcry. The Anthony's buckle to no one. That was the sentiment when Caylee was found and the few days afterwards. Before the first donation was asked for to fund said public outcry memorial, before the memorial was first removed. Before special arrangements to have the suspect held on murder charges be allowed to attend. Before it became an invited to only the persons we allow public memorial.

Buckle to public pressure that's laughable. There is more public pressure that they have the right person behind bars so you see how much they buckle.

[kindeekat]

donations at one point in this case were supposed to go to a missing child cause/foundation. in this case, their own granddaughter was part of that cause. funds to find her.

desmom, thats precisely why those organizations should be somewhat controlled.....funds are to go toward the cause....not to enable someone to continue to live in their own home.

The Petersons ASKED for donations for them to put gas in their car to go see their son in prison. and for other personal use. well, they asked. they set up a 'help us fund', its intent was clear. and Im sure people have contributed. but its a whole other ballgame taking money for a specific cause and using it to keep a roof over your OWN head. thats committing fraud.

why are there 'find caylee' bracelets still for sale and t-shirts? she's been discovered and is deceased.

IMO

best regards,
Pru


THAT is one excellent question.

[ConchGirl]

IMO they made it the publics business when they were begging for doantions to search for their GRANDDAUGHTER and never ONCE particpated in one active search.. They never even donated ONE bottle of water to the searchers (.Poster here on this board donated food and water to the searchers.) ..but yet they surround themselves with felons who never had searched for one child..IMO they scamed the public..They knew Caylee was dead...What did they do with all the donations they got? they sure didnt use it to search.. Where did the money GO?.. We also know Tim Miller sent GA to kinkos to get the $1,500 dollars worth of supplies that was donated to Tim and TES and GA NEVER brought them back and Tim had to buy them... So can you tell us where those supplies went? Poof they disappeared just like all the money that was donated... The A's have also sold videos, picture and interview BLOOD MONEY from their dead granddaughter...down right disgusting...This whole family is all about the money.. Its not about Caylee they could give 2 chit less that Caylee is laying in a 12x12cardboard box in the cooler on a shelf in a funeral home....jmho..
They are still selling " Have you seen me" tee shirts and bracelets.......all about the money......
Do I have any sympathy for this sick bunch ....NO......jmho..

Post of the day in my opinion :D

[CeruleanBleu]

Hopefully Cerulean's post was tongue-in-cheek?

If we were talking about anyone else it would be tongue in cheek, but Cindy is quite capable of doing something that garish. I read about it on some newspaper blog, that's why I asked.

[Pruddennce]

Excuse me for being a little confused as I read some of the posts

The public has demanded a memorial service, felt it was their right to have one but now they are having one, it is sinful on the part of the Anthony's?

Isn't it a bit of an oxymoron?

?

Personally, I never would have relented to public pressure if i were them

Private and be done with it

It is not like the child was murdered by a random stranger and all parties are are in deep in grief

This was murder by the mother ... the most horrible thing of all

I don't know ... but i never would have agreed to any public memorial if I were them

IMO

I never read anything about the public 'demanding' a public memorial...demanding? what?

now Im confused.

these are the anthonys, ordinary people in an extraordinary situation which they are exploiting for attention.

and some believe, monetary gain at some point in time.

public pressure?

who?

best regards,
Pru

[happygert]

Hi everyone, Is it true that Cindy will be selling the new
"Caylee Forever in Our Hearts" bracelets at the church?

OMG!!! didnt hear that but wouldn't put it past her.. I said the other day she no doubt had them made to sell.......Matter of fact Think I sai it earlier today... it's not about Caylee its about the money...If she sold one to every single person that came and if 5000 showed upthat would be 50,000 doallrs.....OMG NO... No more BLOOD money!

[kindeekat]

If we were talking about anyone else it would be tongue in cheek, but Cindy is quite capable of doing something that garish. I read about it on some newspaper blog, that's why I asked.



me too. Nothing is "over the top" with this story.

[lovelaw]

If we were talking about anyone else it would be tongue in cheek, but Cindy is quite capable of doing something that garish. I read about it on some newspaper blog, that's why I asked.

Oh nooooooooooooo...you did mean it!~ I have to agree...in THIS instance, it could happen!~

[bchand]

If we were talking about anyone else it would be tongue in cheek, but Cindy is quite capable of doing something that garish. I read about it on some newspaper blog, that's why I asked.

Hopefully, she wouldn't have the nerve to do this. If she gave them out, that's another thing.

[WillowInFlight]

I never read anything about the public 'demanding' a public memorial...demanding? what?

now Im confused.

these are the anthonys, ordinary people in an extraordinary situation which they are exploiting for attention.

and some believe, monetary gain at some point in time.

public pressure?

who?

best regards,
Pru
The only one I have ever seen demanding anything has been Cindy.

[kindeekat]

OMG!!! didnt hear that but wouldn't put it past her.. I said the other day she no doubt had them made to sell.......Matter of fact Think I sai it earlier today... it's not about Caylee its about the money...If she sold one to every single person that came and if 5000 showed upthat would be 50,000 doallrs.....OMG NO... No more BLOOD money!




awww man. See? I see that as a distinct possibility.

And it makes me cry...and throw up a little...

[?noanswer]

Tonight on NG, they were talking about a nurse that disappeared back in the fall. A utility worker found part of her bones during his job inspecting utility lines. Do the ones on here that think Kronk is shady because of his finding Caylee remains, think the same of this utility worker? JMO

[WillowInFlight]

Hopefully, she wouldn't have the nerve to do this. If she gave them out, that's another thing.

I think that would be a wonderful gesture.

[?noanswer]

Hopefully, she wouldn't have the nerve to do this. If she gave them out, that's another thing.


I hope the family will be involved in grieving for Caylee, not in the business of a bracelet selling stand. JMO

[ConchGirl]

The Anthony's have to make difficult decisions regarding their grandaughter and how to proceed with services in her honor. No matter what they do, they can't win. There is no single action they can take, which would please everyone. I hope the decisions they make are something they can live with, even if others can't. Caylee was their flesh and blood grandaughter. They loved her dearly, and they will honor her with the deep love they hold in their hearts for her. The services are a mere formality, intended to provide solice and closure to those that loved the deceased, as opposed to strangers dictating how they should properly grieve.
imo

Good night my friend. IF they loved her they would tell the truth. Oops, I forgot the truth and the Anthony's are strangers. The Casa de Anthony is more interested in money and protecting a murderess than telling the truth. jmo

[Neffy]

I'm not being patronizing. I offered several explainations for where the money may be coming from. Since one of the explainations was that they are profiting from there granddaughter's death. I agreed you are right. Would you like to just trade comments on how angry we are over the situation or perhaps move on to another subject. We are having another exchange about the proprieties of a church which may prove to be more fruitful. JMO

Another exchange you say? LOL. By golly I did see that. By your "know what" I'd say the patronizing I'd felt was your way of saying you were done with this subject. Point taken but next time I'd prefer you just bow out should you be tired of a topic that you feel to be worn out. :)

[mosey?]

Tonight on NG, they were talking about a nurse that disappeared back in the fall. A utility worker found part of her bones during his job inspecting utility lines. Do the ones on here that think Kronk is shady because of his finding Caylee remains, think the same of this utility worker? JMOHey no!
I was wondering the exact same thing. God bless those utility workers

[happygert]

Once again missed the point of the post....you are so certain your explaination is the only true one so......you are right and I am wrong. These people are the worst of mankind.....But the fact remains you do not know and neither do I.....JMO

Yes they are the worst IMO ... I am entitled to my opinion just like you are...I have never seen a family like this one in my life... They are down right sickening...You dont profit off of your DEAD GRANDDAUGHTER! This family is and have made money off of Caylee....sick ... You don't leave your dead GRANDDAUGHTER IN a cardboard box for 49 days either.....you dont keep selling "have You seen me tee-shirts and bracelets after the child is found dead either but these people do..... barf....

[apothecary]

If the whole Anthony family seemed to be using the Amscott as a regular bank is it possible to check their bank records to see if any member of the family had been at the bank during the time the car was abandoned there.That would prove that they knew Casey was not in Jacksonville as she said and one of the other family members could have smelled the car.If it could be shown that they knew the car was there why would none of them have taken it home.

[happygert]

IF it's true and they sell like hotcakes there'll be NO stopping her!
Someone posted that the reason George quit his police job years ago is because Cindy wanted him to get a car dealership like her sisters hubby so she could have a fancy house, cars, money and when it went sour George threw his father through a plate glass window.!?!?!

The Ants finally found their goldmine :sad: poor little Caylee is laying in a cardbord box on a shelf like a pile of junk and the Ants are rolling out their first product barf

Yes it so sad......Caylee has been lost in all this money making schemes the A's have come up with...Caylee has been victimized all over the place by her so called family....and they continue... It will never stop...

Sounds like cindy and the all mighy dollar... Yes she sure did......and its sickening...

[summer4meplz]

Hopefully, she wouldn't have the nerve to do this. If she gave them out, that's another thing.

I'm sure donations will be appreciated....

[gaelicpeas]

Okay, I know there are nuts out there, but I can't really see somebody putting their life on the life to harm C&G. If someone does, I will eat my words readily.

This is all about controlling video and picture rights to the service, IMO.

[gaelicpeas]

If the whole Anthony family seemed to be using the Amscott as a regular bank is it possible to check their bank records to see if any member of the family had been at the bank during the time the car was abandoned there.That would prove that they knew Casey was not in Jacksonville as she said and one of the other family members could have smelled the car.If it could be shown that they knew the car was there why would none of them have taken it home.We already know Casey wasn't in Jacksonville. Her phone pinged daily in the Orlando area.

[Pruddennce]

The Anthony's have to make difficult decisions regarding their grandaughter and how to proceed with services in her honor. No matter what they do, they can't win. There is no single action they can take, which would please everyone. I hope the decisions they make are something they can live with, even if others can't. Caylee was their flesh and blood grandaughter. They loved her dearly, and they will honor her with the deep love they hold in their hearts for her. The services are a mere formality, intended to provide solice and closure to those that loved the deceased, as opposed to strangers dictating how they should properly grieve.
imo

someone they love and cherished was murdered, this isnt a case of 'who could the suspect be', a suspect has been apprehended, and their daughter is now the defendant in jail awaiting a murder one trial, why would they feel a need to please ANYONE? grief for public consumption.

I get it.

NOT.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[bchand]

The Anthony's have to make difficult decisions regarding their grandaughter and how to proceed with services in her honor. No matter what they do, they can't win. There is no single action they can take, which would please everyone. I hope the decisions they make are something they can live with, even if others can't. Caylee was their flesh and blood grandaughter. They loved her dearly, and they will honor her with the deep love they hold in their hearts for her. The services are a mere formality, intended to provide solice and closure to those that loved the deceased, as opposed to strangers dictating how they should properly grieve.
imo


I prefer this way of looking at the public memorial.

Samantha Runnion's mother was on JVM tonight and had a different view about the "strangers".

But for me, the public memorial, we did have a private family memorial. The public memorial really was for the public. We had received so many thousands of letters that I really felt that all of these people deserved a chance to -- to grieve together and to -- as a community say good-bye to Samantha. Because I feel the same is true for Caylee.

I mean, when a child is taken so brutally, it is a crime against humanity itself. This is not just a personal matter. And you know, I think it is everybody`s business. I think when we have nearly a million cases of substantiated child abuse every year, and one in five girls and on in 10 boys are sexually assaulted before their 14th birthday. It`s time we stop acting like this is somebody else`s problem to solve.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/05/ijvm.01.html

[Neffy]

Neffy, Neffy. It was an example.
Where did you hear that there is a "list" of people that are not allowed entry? And is it the church's doing?

I didn't ask for examples Mosey LOL . What you posted went without saying anywhere.

Conway had made a statement something along the lines of reserving the right to turn away certain people not dangerous but certain individuals. Lenny was publicly denied entrance.

I'm not sure if it's in the links section but it's a statement by the church how they were set in Orlando to be a beacon of light to help "everyone heal".

Church's do not disallow any one entrance to my knowledge. Never have I heard of any church having a public memorial except for the few the family has a grudge against.

It wouldn't be the first time Conway spun something and the Church really doesn't have an recourse if this isn't true unless they wanted to make a public statement which I doubt they would.

[Lapis]

Yes they are the worst IMO ... I am entitled to my opinion just like you are...I have never seen a family like this one in my life... They are down right sickening...You dont profit off of your DEAD GRANDDAUGHTER! This family is and had made money off of Caylee....sick ... You don't leave your dead GRANDDAUGHTER IN a cardboard box for 49 days either.....you dont keep selling "have You seen me tee-shirts and bracelets after the child is found dead either but these people do..... barf....

The problem is the way you "speak" doesn't convey one who is merely stating an opinion. (Putting "My opinion in your signature line does not negate the tone of your posts) I just never met anyone who was so certain about people they have never even met. I presented several options of where their money may be coming from (including your own) yet you are dismissive of all of them since you know better. I never said you were not entitled to your opinion, however, your dismissiveness implies I am not. I am not a right fighter especially in these circumstances since I don't know the truth. You may think you do but you don't. I avoid the work "Know" at all costs. Sorry if I have offended you in anyway. JMO

[bchand]

i think you're right gp

This way the images will be worth more $$$$$

and that seems to be all they care about :mad:

JMO

Kathi Belich said tonight that WFTV will be videotaping it live on the internet. Anyone can make a copy of that.

[myownopera]

You know when they found the car at Amscot, I truly think they could not even imagine what that smell was-- do any of you really think (at that time) that they thought that their granddaughter was murdered by her own mother. No matter how terrible the family was to each other, I don't think even Cindy or George could imagine something so horrible.

JMOO

[WillowInFlight]

Yes they are the worst IMO ... I am entitled to my opinion just like you are...I have never seen a family like this one in my life... They are down right sickening...You dont profit off of your DEAD GRANDDAUGHTER! This family is and have made money off of Caylee....sick ... You don't leave your dead GRANDDAUGHTER IN a cardboard box for 49 days either.....you dont keep selling "have You seen me tee-shirts and bracelets after the child is found dead either but these people do..... barf....

AWWWW Happy I so agree with you, and I do know how passionate you are about this.

[mosey?]

Okay, I know there are nuts out there, but I can't really see somebody putting their life on the life to harm C&G. If someone does, I will eat my words readily.

This is all about controlling video and picture rights to the service, IMO.From what I've heard, the memorial will be broadcasted live. I'd be really surprised if anyone was getting paid for the feed

[Lapis]

You know when they found the car at Amscot, I truly think they could not even imagine what that smell was-- do any of you really think (at that time) that they thought that their granddaughter was murdered by her own mother. No matter how terrible the family was to each other, I don't think even Cindy or George could imagine something so horrible.

JMOO

I would agree with you. With the information they had at that time, I don't think they knew what had happened. JMO

[WillowInFlight]

You know when they found the car at Amscot, I truly think they could not even imagine what that smell was-- do any of you really think (at that time) that they thought that their granddaughter was murdered by her own mother. No matter how terrible the family was to each other, I don't think even Cindy or George could imagine something so horrible.

JMOO

They knew what the smell was, they both admitted it, they also knew Casey was alive and well, so yes I do think that the smell being Caylee crossed their minds.

[WillowInFlight]

I would agree with you. With the information they had at that time, I don't think they knew what had happened. JMO

Is that why the first question Cindy asked Casey was "what have you done"?

[Lapis]

They knew what the smell was, they both admitted it, they also knew Casey was alive and well, so yes I do think that the smell being Caylee crossed their minds.

But what (s)he asked was whether they thought at that time that Casey had killed Caylee? JMO

[myownopera]

I would agree with you. With the information they had at that time, I don't think they knew what had happened. JMO

And Caylee being dead, must less murdered was the furtherest from their mind - I truly believe G&C loved that child--- and it was beyond their thoughts (at that time) that she could possibly be dead.

MOO

[bchand]

i said "images" cuz i meant still images

I thought someone said that they aren't allowing any "cameras"... just the church's own video system

Still pictures would be totally different and Cindy is probably the only one who could get a camera in the building.

who knows... the whole thing makes me wonder :glare:

Gotcha. We still can't figure how WFTV is the one that will be permitted to videotape it.


eta: Have a good night everyone.

[happygert]

The problem is the way you "speak" doesn't convey one who is merely stating an opinion. (Putting "My opinion in your signature line does not negate the tone of your posts) I just never met anyone who was so certain about people they have never even met. I presented several options of where their money may be coming from (including your own) yet you are dismissive of all of them since you know better. I never said you were not entitled to your opinion, however, your dismissiveness implies I am not. I am not a right fighter especially in these circumstances since I don't know the truth. You may think you do but you don't. I avoid the work "Know" at all costs. Sorry if I have offended you in anyway. JMO

You can avoid anything you want... That was and is my opinion....

One thing for sure is they made their bed let them lay in it..... They chose to protect casey and lie to LE and FBI.......I have no symapthy for them at all....IMO they all should be charged......Thats MY OPINION.. ....sorry if you disagree ..If you dont like what I post scroll and roll.......

[Lapis]

Is that why the first question Cindy asked Casey was "what have you done"?

But that was after she found Casey and questioned her for a period of time, threatened her with the police and then found her whispering with Lee. Not at the moment they found the car. JMO

[Pruddennce]

I prefer this way of looking at the public memorial.

Samantha Runnion's mother was on JVM tonight and had a different view about the "strangers".

But for me, the public memorial, we did have a private family memorial. The public memorial really was for the public. We had received so many thousands of letters that I really felt that all of these people deserved a chance to -- to grieve together and to -- as a community say good-bye to Samantha. Because I feel the same is true for Caylee.

I mean, when a child is taken so brutally, it is a crime against humanity itself. This is not just a personal matter. And you know, I think it is everybody`s business. I think when we have nearly a million cases of substantiated child abuse every year, and one in five girls and on in 10 boys are sexually assaulted before their 14th birthday. It`s time we stop acting like this is somebody else`s problem to solve.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/05/ijvm.01.html

respectfully disagree with her statements.

there is no comparison.

if only the Anthonys didnt live in their contained world and swept all of Casey's nefarious behaviour under the rug, someone in that home might have stepped in and saved this child.

the anthonys behaved as if it was someone else's problem.

that is why their daughter continued to commit criminal acts.


IMO

best regards,
Pru

[WillowInFlight]

But what (s)he asked was whether they thought at that time that Casey had killed Caylee? JMO

And I think they knew or at least thought it was possible, They started the "Have you seen me" web site the same night Casey was was taken in, they knew something was up, you can hear it in Cindy's own words.

[myownopera]

Is that why the first question Cindy asked Casey was "what have you done"?


Well you have a point there, but wasn't that question after Cindy had found Casey and her mind began to "figure the worst". I really don't know, I have followed this case very closely (since I live only about 40 miles from Orland), but I must say I am not nearly as savy as you guys -- you guys are professional --I'm just a rookie. LOL


MOO

[need2no]

Gotcha. We still can't figure how WFTV is the one that will be permitted to videotape it.


eta: Have a good night everyone.


Highest bidder?

[mosey?]

I didn't ask for examples Mosey LOL . What you posted went without saying anywhere.

Conway had made a statement something along the lines of reserving the right to turn away certain people not dangerous but certain individuals. Lenny was publicly denied entrance.

I'm not sure if it's in the links section but it's a statement by the church how they were set in Orlando to be a beacon of light to help "everyone heal".

Church's do not disallow any one entrance to my knowledge. Never have I heard of any church having a public memorial except for the few the family has a grudge against.

It wouldn't be the first time Conway spun something and the Church really doesn't have an recourse if this isn't true unless they wanted to make a public statement which I doubt they would.Sorry, you're hard to follow, but I think the bottom line is The Anthony's can invite anyone they want in a facility that housed 5,500 people, max. Any number over that the church can turn away.

Thing of the church as the landlord and The A's as the tenents, who have 86'd peeps from the function. The church has NOTHING to do with this "privilege list" of Cindy's. And if Cindy didnt have an invite-only list, it would look like Walmart on Black Friday morning.
It really is a no-biggie, but I wonder about Cindys motive. She doesnt seem to be the kind to shell out bucks for the same people she considers to be the enemy in all this.

[WillowInFlight]

Well you have a point there, but wasn't that question after Cindy had found Casey and her mind began to "figure the worst". I really don't know, I have followed this case very closely (since I live only about 40 miles from Orland), but I must say I am not nearly as savy as you guys -- you guys are professional --I'm just a rookie. LOL


MOO

Her third call is totally out of control, she knows the baby is gone and she knows the car smells like death, She IMO knew then

[happygert]

respectfully disagree with her statements.

there is no comparison.

if only the Anthonys didnt live in their contained world and swept all of Casey's nefarious behaviour under the rug, someone in that home might have stepped in and saved this child.

the anthonys behaved as if it was someone else's problem.

that is why their daughter continued to commit criminal acts.


IMO

best regards,
Pru


ITA Pru...They did NOT protect the one who needed protecting the most...Now they have to live with that...I guess the money from the pictures , videos and interviews have made it easier for them...mo

[WillowInFlight]

didn't george tell le that he asked the tow yard guy to walk to the trunk with him and before he opened the trunk he was praying in his head "please god don't let this be my daughter or granddaughter"??

He wouldn't be praying that if he didnt think the smell was a body.... Right?

absolutely!

[happygert]

Her third call is totally out of control, she knows the baby is gone and she knows the car smells like death, She IMO knew then

Yes she knew.....no doubt in my mind.....jmho...

[martha]

Is that why the first question Cindy asked Casey was "what have you done"?
I think casey had done a lot of things before this by cindy asking her that and lee ask her if it was like before. I think we would all be suprized at what things casey had done in the past. she may have taken caylee and keep her away from them before just for spite. that may be the reason they were not to worried that casey was keeping caylee away from them this time. it sounds like casey was useing caylee to get her way with her mother and daddy and lee or anyone elce she wanted something from. it sounds like she was useing caylee like a pond in a fight. I think she may have tryed that with the grund family.jmho

[gaelicpeas]

I don't find Kronk shady......but did this utility guy call police 4 times? 3 of which were a few months ago?

:shrug:FWIW, it is not really his fault that his calls were not followed up.

[martha]

absolutely!
ITA later he said that body in the car was not my gd. now he knew there was a dead body in the car when he first smelled it.so did cindy.jmho

[WillowInFlight]

Sorry, you're hard to follow, but I think the bottom line is The Anthony's can invite anyone they want in a facility that housed 5,500 people, max. Any number over that the church can turn away.

Thing of the church as the landlord and The A's as the tenents, who have 86'd peeps from the function. The church has NOTHING to do with this "privilege list" of Cindy's. And if Cindy didnt have an invite-only list, it would look like Walmart on Black Friday morning.
It really is a no-biggie, but I wonder about Cindys motive. She doesnt seem to be the kind to shell out bucks for the same people she considers to be the enemy in all this.

Public means public, sure she can list who she doesn't want there, but by law does she have the right, if it's labeled as "public"?

[martha]

FWIW, it is not really his fault that his calls were not followed up.you or so right it was not his fault caylee's body should have been found in aug when he first called.jmho

[WillowInFlight]

I think casey had done a lot of things before this by cindy asking her that and lee ask her if it was like before. I think we would all be suprized at what things casey had done in the past. she may have taken caylee and keep her away from them before just for spite. that may be the reason they were not to worried that casey was keeping caylee away from them this time. it sounds like casey was useing caylee to get her way with her mother and daddy and lee or anyone elce she wanted something from. it sounds like she was useing caylee like a pond in a fight. I think she may have tryed that with the grund family.jmho

I think if anyone in that house had an inkling it was George, just by the way he said I think Casey was involved with some bad things.

[need2no]

But that was after she found Casey and questioned her for a period of time, threatened her with the police and then found her whispering with Lee. Not at the moment they found the car. JMO

GEORGE ANTHONY: That distinct odor is something you never forget. That distinct odor, I -- I believe something was placed in the back of that trunk, and I don`t want to believe it was my granddaughter.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, let`s put it this way. I`m hoping it`s not. I want to believe it`s not. I mean, I`m trying to believe it`s not. But then again, like I said, and you guys know, once you smell that smell, you just -- you never get over it.

And I told the guy, I said, Can you walk around with me to the rear of the car? He says, Why? And I said, Man, there is a smell in this car, and I`ve just got to know where it`s coming from. And as I walked around the back of that car, before I stuck the key in it, I did whisper to myself, I hope it`s not my daughter or my granddaughter. I felt that in my heart. I felt that. I`m, like, Please don`t let it be either one of them.

[msgatorslayer]

So is WFTV paying to film this? If so, should they not release who they are paying? And why is the WFTV filming it, aren't they making money off of broadcasting this event, making money off of the murder of Caylee?

:confused: :shrug:

I would hope not and I doubt it.

IMO, she was speaking of the news agency SHE works for. And not mentioning all the other ones that would also be airing it on TV and the net.

Think CTV/Insessions. One camera in the courtroom. Live feeds all over the internet and snippets of live testimony on local channels, plus CNN.

Same thing here, IMO. One camera. In the church. And every media outlets that wants a piece will be tapping into that.

Kathy was just advertising for her company.

JMO

[gaelicpeas]

you or so right it was not his fault caylee's body should have been found in aug when he first called.jmhoYou are so right, Martha... he tried his best to report something he found "odd" in those woods.

[mosey?]

Public means public, sure she can list who she doesn't want there, but by law does she have the right, if it's labeled as "public"?The law doesnt have much to say in a church function. Separation of Church and State, and all that. No it's not against the law. It is a private function on private property FOR the benifit of the public.

[martha]

Now casey is trying to sell pictures of caylee. oh my goodness. How can she do that does she not have one bit of love in her heart for caylee. I guess not. I do think c and g loved caylee with all their hearts but they need to stop taking up for casey.jmho

[WillowInFlight]

I would hope not and I doubt it.

IMO, she was speaking of the news agency SHE works for. And not mentioning all the other ones that would also be airing it on TV and the net.

Think CTV/Insessions. One camera in the courtroom. Live feeds all over the internet and snippets of live testimony on local channels, plus CNN.

Same thing here, IMO. One camera. In the church. And every media outlets that wants a piece will be tapping into that.

Kathy was just advertising for her company.

JMO

And how early was that? He knew, and I think all the "sweethearts, and gorgeous" was to win over Casey. Hey hon, we believe in you. NOT

[happygert]

GEORGE ANTHONY: That distinct odor is something you never forget. That distinct odor, I -- I believe something was placed in the back of that trunk, and I don`t want to believe it was my granddaughter.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Well, let`s put it this way. I`m hoping it`s not. I want to believe it`s not. I mean, I`m trying to believe it`s not. But then again, like I said, and you guys know, once you smell that smell, you just -- you never get over it.

And I told the guy, I said, Can you walk around with me to the rear of the car? He says, Why? And I said, Man, there is a smell in this car, and I`ve just got to know where it`s coming from. And as I walked around the back of that car, before I stuck the key in it, I did whisper to myself, I hope it`s not my daughter or my granddaughter. I felt that in my heart. I felt that. I`m, like, Please don`t let it be either one of them.

n2n I'm with you they KNEW!.....Once you smell a decomposing body you never forget it, They KNEW.......IMO..

[nc1948]

The Anthony's have to make difficult decisions regarding their grandaughter and how to proceed with services in her honor. No matter what they do, they can't win. There is no single action they can take, which would please everyone. I hope the decisions they make are something they can live with, even if others can't. Caylee was their flesh and blood grandaughter. They loved her dearly, and they will honor her with the deep love they hold in their hearts for her. The services are a mere formality, intended to provide solice and closure to those that loved the deceased, as opposed to strangers dictating how they should properly grieve.
imo

I personally think the services should be private. Family and close friends. Only people that had known Caylee in life. But that is my opinion, I have never attended a memorial or service for someone I did not know well. I so wish they would do something private to honor Caylee and do it with dignity and respect. Unfortunately, I don't think the Anthonys know how.

[myownopera]

no it wasn't

George was praying as he opened that trunk because he knew it was the smell of DECOMP... he told the LE that!


Was he at Amsoct when he said that??? As I said, I'm not as good at this as you guys. I really do think this horrible thing that Casey did was completely out of their thought pattern. I do think they suspected after some time, but do you really think they could even phatom that could happen??? JMOO






























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[Neffy]

Hopefully, she wouldn't have the nerve to do this. If she gave them out, that's another thing.

I've never attended a funeral and walked away with anything more nor gave away anything more then a memorial card with a prayer on it.

Sorry the give away thing - well lets just say I feel it's all unsettling.