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gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 07:27 PM
This guy?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18257535/index.htmllol, yep, that is the one. And IIRC, someone researched him and found out he was an aspiring comedian, so my GUESS would be that this "performance" was exactly that.. a performance. But JMO.

Cury-us Coyote
02-05-2009, 07:28 PM
Caylee Anthony Funeral Scheduled
http://www.wesh.com/video/18651821/index.html

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 07:28 PM
I was being sarcastic, SS.

I didn't know that. Sorry.

Unperson1984
02-05-2009, 07:28 PM
No, no, no. Cindy is not the devil. Casey is the devil. Cindy is the devil's advocate. How could she not be? A mother is often a criminal's best PR agent.


Yes that's often true, but it's out of love not malice.

Neffy
02-05-2009, 07:29 PM
Is that the young ADULT that was acting very DRAMATIC and pacing in front of the house?
He would stop and take a deep breath and start all over again.

Yea that's the poor thing!

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 07:29 PM
I may have missed it, but I have never read that they took Caylee to Sunday School nor that the Anthony's or Casey attended church.

As for the church footing the bill, it was reported that they weren't charging the Anthony's for using it which means they won't get a bill for the utilities, the rental, the security...none of it.




I would like to know; I have never heard they attended church regularly nor had a church "family" as such.

Anyone know?

bama__angel
02-05-2009, 07:29 PM
yes that's often true, but it's out of love not malice.



true that................

Neffy
02-05-2009, 07:30 PM
I ran across my favorite pic of Casey to hate. Until I knew what kind of person she was, I thought she was attractive. In this picture, she looks downright simian.

http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/ratched/?action=view&current=chhya083.jpg

:laugh: barf

RiverWalk
02-05-2009, 07:31 PM
He's far from a child and it was a disgusting spoof. The guy was wearing white Casey sunglasses. Geez!

Kalani Bowles, the bipolar comedian and bff with Cindy Anthony.

Pruddennce
02-05-2009, 07:31 PM
I wonder if these same people were upset when Sharon Rocha refused to allow the Petersons to attend their own grandchild's funeral?

is that a fact?

they asked Sharon if they could hold off a memorial until after the trial <----not dignified.

but for the media:

the petersons issued a statement, which was dignified. they stated they would not attend out of respect.


IMO

best regards,
Pru

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 07:32 PM
well {{{hugs}}}.....I said last night, if one posts long enough, they will find they agree with something or other that a poster they normally disagree with says. And it happens A LOT especially from case to case. Some of my worst "enemies" (don't take that literally please) on XXX case, I totally agreed with on YYY case. For example. It's crazy....this message board world! :smile:
True. I would never consider you my "enemy", Savannah. We have disagreed on both of the cases that we have mutually followed, but I think it has been a respectful exchange. I have no problem with opposing sides in a debate... heck, that is what makes it a debate!

bama__angel
02-05-2009, 07:33 PM
I think whats hurtful is the ridiculous displays he has put on for the cameras... running up and down the sidewalk SCREAMING for Caylee,,, having to be pickup off the ground by a friend and restrained while he shoves his face into every camera again and again WAILING at the top of his lungs


Poor Caylee... people behaving like complete morons and USING her as their excuse to be jack@sses and get their face on TV!

:cursing:

I'm sorry for my comment.......truly..........I believed that you were actually talking about a child...........not a young adult male....

bchand
02-05-2009, 07:34 PM
Kalani Bowles, the bipolar comedian and bff with Cindy Anthony.

Is he the one they invited for Thanksgiving dinner?

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 07:34 PM
True. I would never consider you my "enemy", Savannah. We have disagreed on both of the cases that we have mutually followed, but I think it has been a respectful exchange. I have no problem with opposing sides in a debate... heck, that is what makes it a debate!


Oh isn't that the truth.

I LOVE that you are never a "baiter." I enjoy posting with you, no matter how much we disagree.

:smile:

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 07:34 PM
I ran across my favorite pic of Casey to hate. Until I knew what kind of person she was, I thought she was attractive. In this picture, she looks downright simian.

http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/ratched/?action=view&current=chhya083.jpgI think the one where she is tucked under Jose's arm under the umbrella with her hair in her face is the worst one I have seen. Wish I had it to post... it is in the group of 100+ photos that one of the local news outlets has posted.

RiverWalk
02-05-2009, 07:35 PM
Is he the one they invited for Thanksgiving dinner?

Maybe he was the "visitor" for the birthday party. :w00t:

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 07:35 PM
You know what I find disgusting, Savannah?

It seems that those of you who are so very concerned about Cindy's safety are the very same people who have typed Caylee's name on these boards, perhaps once for every 100 times you've typed in defense of Cindy.

My concern has been and will always be with a defenseless, innocent, vulnerable, trusting toddler murdered by her mother, and unprotected in life and dishonored in death by the others entrusted with her care.

Cindy Anthony can take care of herself.


WHOA nomination for Post of the Day!!!! :thumbsup:

spiritwolf46
02-05-2009, 07:36 PM
Of course not. Sharon Rocha is a saint. Cindy Anthony is the devil.


Sharon Rocha never ONCE lied, spun stories or treated other with the complete disrespect that Cynthia Anthony did. THAT is FACT.

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 07:36 PM
I would like to know; I have never heard they attended church regularly nor had a church "family" as such.

Anyone know?Cindy discusses this in her 4+ hour interview with the FBI, and I just can't stomach going back through that to find it. But you are correct - she said they didn't really attend church or have a regular church, IMO.

lovelaw
02-05-2009, 07:37 PM
You know what I find disgusting, Savannah?

It seems that those of you who are so very concerned about Cindy's safety are the very same people who have typed Caylee's name on these boards, perhaps once for every 100 times you've typed in defense of Cindy.

My concern has been and will always be with a defenseless, innocent, vulnerable, trusting toddler murdered by her mother, and unprotected in life and dishonored in death by the others entrusted with her care.

Cindy Anthony can take care of herself.



Thank you!~ I completely agree. Cindy has made her own bed....let her sleep in it!~ I am sure she has regrets....but she could have far fewer if she had WISED UP and took the bull (CASEY) by the horns and set her straight on life etc....
AND.............thought about, and protected CAYLEE even only 1/2 as much as she's thought about and protected Casey!!~
What a shame!~

spiritwolf46
02-05-2009, 07:39 PM
You know what I find disgusting, Savannah?

It seems that those of you who are so very concerned about Cindy's safety are the very same people who have typed Caylee's name on these boards, perhaps once for every 100 times you've typed in defense of Cindy.

My concern has been and will always be with a defenseless, innocent, vulnerable, trusting toddler murdered by her mother, and unprotected in life and dishonored in death by the others entrusted with her care.

Cindy Anthony can take care of herself.

Great post, Say!!

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 07:39 PM
Is he the one they invited for Thanksgiving dinner?We don't really know who that person was, but I speculated it was Josh Duckett, and one person who seems to have some connection to the family agreed. But who knows...

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 07:39 PM
Sharon Rocha never ONCE lied, spun stories or treated other with the complete disrespect that Cynthia Anthony did. THAT is FACT.





I am truly shocked that anyone would compare Sharon Rocha and Cindy Anthony on ANY level. My pea brain is still reeling. :scared:

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 07:41 PM
Oh isn't that the truth.

I LOVE that you are never a "baiter." I enjoy posting with you, no matter how much we disagree.

:smile:Thanks, Savannah, same here. lol, I have learned that baiting leads to time in the so-called "corner". :biggrin:

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 07:41 PM
Cindy discusses this in her 4+ hour interview with the FBI, and I just can't stomach going back through that to find it. But you are correct - she said they didn't really attend church or have a regular church, IMO.



Thank you SO much. Seriously, I thought that was the case but had no real memory of why.

cheers!

Unperson1984
02-05-2009, 07:41 PM
is that a fact?

they asked Sharon if they could hold off a memorial until after the trial <----not dignified.

but for the media:

the petersons issued a statement, which was dignified. they stated they would not attend out of respect.


IMO

best regards,
Pru

They issued that statement regarding the Memorial Service, they were told they could not attend the funeral.

That was Sharon Rocha's choice and I respect her right to make that call, just as I respect the Anthony's right to request some people not attend Caylee's Memorial.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 07:41 PM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18651683/detail.html

Eyewitness News has learned Casey Anthony is willing to part with more photos of her dead daughter to help pay for her defense.


So who's going to blame Cindy for this? :rolleyes:

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 07:42 PM
Thanks, Savannah, same here. lol, I have learned that baiting leads to time in the so-called "corner". :biggrin:

:laugh:

I ACCEPTED bait once and got sent there. Never again! :thumbdown:

RiverWalk
02-05-2009, 07:43 PM
So who's going to blame Cindy for this? :rolleyes:

How is Casey/Jose going to get her hands on the pictures in order to sell them?
ETA: This isn't bait, is it?

Neffy
02-05-2009, 07:43 PM
I am truly shocked that anyone would compare Sharon Rocha and Cindy Anthony on ANY level. My pea brain is still reeling. :scared:

Nuff said :laugh: Only other reason is bait.

??WHATthe??
02-05-2009, 07:43 PM
So who's going to blame Cindy for this? :rolleyes:

Savannah... you baiter you...:tonguewag:

LOL

CelticDawn
02-05-2009, 07:43 PM
Hasn't she been out of the media since Caylee's body was found?

Yes she has....and I for one am quite pelased.....IMO....NOBODY deserves what she and George....and Lee have gone through....They all HAD TO have felt some pain from the loss of Caylee....no matter what we might think...

ConchGirl
02-05-2009, 07:43 PM
Isn't this the Anthony's home church, where they worshiped every Sunday, where little Caylee went to Sunday School and learned about Jesus. Aren't these parishioners the A's church family...one would think that it would be almost their duty to see that little Caylee had a proper religious ceremony in keeping with the Anthony family values.

According to Cindy's LE interviews, they never attended church until this.:angry:

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 07:44 PM
How is Casey/Jose going to get her hands on the pictures in order to sell them?




Now what a good question. :thumbup:

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 07:44 PM
I think everyone's opinions here are so interesting and the most introspective part of the case. Much of this case is so obvious, tedious and predictable, but hearing your theories and comments gives it dimensions and emotions that often are not reported. JMOOGood point, Fresca. It also gives some insight into future jury deliberations, IMO - we get lots of different perspectives on all the case details.

gramvof14
02-05-2009, 07:45 PM
Thank you!~ I completely agree. Cindy has made her own bed....let her sleep in it!~ I am sure she has regrets....but she could have far fewer if she had WISED UP and took the bull (CASEY) by the horns and set her straight on life etc....
AND.............thought about, and protected CAYLEE even only 1/2 as much as she's thought about and protected Casey!!~
What a shame!~
Boy I totally agree with you Lovelaw.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 07:47 PM
You know what I find disgusting, Savannah?

It seems that those of you who are so very concerned about Cindy's safety are the very same people who have typed Caylee's name on these boards, perhaps once for every 100 times you've typed in defense of Cindy.

My concern has been and will always be with a defenseless, innocent, vulnerable, trusting toddler murdered by her mother, and unprotected in life and dishonored in death by the others entrusted with her care.

Cindy Anthony can take care of herself.

Well I tried to deflect the conversation about Cindy the other night. I even questioned how those who say "it's not about Caylee anymore" could say that, when the whole discussion is usually about Cindy and George. I attempted to discuss Casey and the actual murder....how and where and when it happened. Thankfully, I did get a few responses.

If you would like to go in that direction, I'd be most pleased.

I don't normally as a rule begin a discussion about the Anthonys. I only respond to posts about them.

bchand
02-05-2009, 07:47 PM
How is Casey/Jose going to get her hands on the pictures in order to sell them?
ETA: This isn't bait, is it?

Nor the post comparing Sharon Rocha with Cindy Anthony? Bait? Naaaaa, couldn't be.

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 07:47 PM
Thank you SO much. Seriously, I thought that was the case but had no real memory of why.

cheers!No problem. I wish there was a searchable transcribed version of that interview, but even great sites like Acandyrose didn't even transcribe it. lol, I think all the transcribers said NO WAY to that interview.

JMO

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 07:48 PM
Don't get me wrong, I am NO Cindy fan--or any Anthony fan, for that matter. However, there is a difference between Sharon Rocha and Cindy Anthony. Sharon was the victim's mother. Cindy has a more complicated situation: She's the grandmother of the victim and the mother of the perpetrator. You have to ask yourself how you would act. You would have to support your daughter. The one you helped create and raise, the one you love, the one who is remaining. How could you tell the world you love her but hate her, that raising her was not only a waste but also a failure? She's not equipped to do it.
imo


Very perceptive. Thank you, Fresca.

tmw
02-05-2009, 07:48 PM
this is my favorite picture of casey

http://i39.tinypic.com/izpxyc.jpg


OMG That should not be as funny as it is!

lovelaw
02-05-2009, 07:48 PM
How is Casey/Jose going to get her hands on the pictures in order to sell them?
ETA: This isn't bait, is it?

Hmmmmmmmmmm..let's see...Baez will probably get them from CINDY!~

I don't think so???????????????

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 07:48 PM
Don't get me wrong, I am NO Cindy fan--or any Anthony fan, for that matter. However, there is a difference between Sharon Rocha and Cindy Anthony. Sharon was the victim's mother. Cindy has a more complicated situation: She's the grandmother of the victim and the mother of the perpetrator. You have to ask yourself how you would act. You would have to support your daughter. The one you helped create and raise, the one you love, the one who is remaining. How could you tell the world you love her but hate her, that raising her was not only a waste but also a failure? She's not equipped to do it.
imo




Well I agree with you; there is NO comparison between Sharon R and Cindy A, none. Sorry, I just don't see it.

ConchGirl
02-05-2009, 07:48 PM
Of course not. Sharon Rocha is a saint. Cindy Anthony is the devil.

Thought you might appreciate an email from Cindy's Mom to Cindy on 7/29 Bolding is mine.

From Shirley
To Cindy 7/29
dear cindy, we are sick over this.we are so worried about caylee. And we are very worried about you. Iv’e seen so many interviews. Now they discuss you after you leave. The only one who has remained kind to you, is mike on m and j. – then today you blew it, for every ones sake..yours caylee, and yes even casey, stay off tv or act like the person y ou really are, a nice person, who has worked for 30 yrs, making the home and raising a nice family. You are taking the spotlite off caylee. We know you love casey, but what about your future.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155446.pdf Pg. 26

:seeya:

CelticDawn
02-05-2009, 07:49 PM
Don't get me wrong, I am NO Cindy fan--or any Anthony fan, for that matter. However, there is a difference between Sharon Rocha and Cindy Anthony. Sharon was the victim's mother. Cindy has a more complicated situation: She's the grandmother of the victim and the mother of the perpetrator. You have to ask yourself how you would act. You would have to support your daughter. The one you helped create and raise, the one you love, the one who is remaining. How could you tell the world you love her but hate her, that raising her was not only a waste but also a failure? She's not equipped to do it.
imo



I would definitely be in meltdown mode....that's for sure...

So far, since the identification of Caylee's body she is acting a bit better.....as much as I get all POed at her for things she does....I think shes in a lot of pain and isn't in the best of mental health right now either...

??WHATthe??
02-05-2009, 07:49 PM
Don't get me wrong, I am NO Cindy fan--or any Anthony fan, for that matter. However, there is a difference between Sharon Rocha and Cindy Anthony. Sharon was the victim's mother. Cindy has a more complicated situation: She's the grandmother of the victim and the mother of the perpetrator. You have to ask yourself how you would act. You would have to support your daughter. The one you helped create and raise, the one you love, the one who is remaining. How could you tell the world you love her but hate her, that raising her was not only a waste but also a failure? She's not equipped to do it.
imo

Hey Fresca...

With all due respect I've asked myself those questions, and ummmmm nope, I can't find an ounce of respect for the Anthony's... nor pitty for them...:glare:

Pruddennce
02-05-2009, 07:51 PM
I hope I misunderstood Pru. Do you mean to suggest that our very own Cindy-type (Cindy Shut Up Anthony) is missing class? There is a poster here who will have a fit. :lol: Not me. :smile:

well randy, when one goes back in time to their earlier interviews, they exhibited abhorrent behaviour toward the public and LE. LE being chastised.....

her daughter conducted her life as if she never had a child after June 15 and Cindy Anthony is spewing hatred for the very people who should have been notified BY HER DAUGHTER after she 'claimed' her babysitter's # was 'no longer in service'.

this is where the case began...and these people should have hid under a rock.

it was incredulous behaviour and downright distasteful, given one fact:
Their daughter was having a fabulous time without her daughter in tow for one full month.

NO AMBER ALERT?
Caylee was not given the best benefit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=794SU2yT5So

'within a week no one was actually giving Caylee 100% effort looking for her".

unbelievable.

best regards,
Pru

Howiefan
02-05-2009, 07:51 PM
I think the people conducting this service should pass the plate to those who want to make donations to Texas Equisearch, an organization that exhausted funds looking for a dead little girl.
great idea but I don't see this hapening

Unperson1984
02-05-2009, 07:52 PM
How is Casey/Jose going to get her hands on the pictures in order to sell them?
ETA: This isn't bait, is it?


Casey may have given them to him while she was out on bail. I've always suspected that Casey was responsible for selling pictures. How else can they finance her defense team?

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 07:52 PM
That is yours and my mothers favorite! It just fits with "my girl", the jail staff correcting him from physical contact with his girl and 6 hour daily visits to his office. Hmmm, what does that spell? :wink:Kudos to your mom! (do you have it to post?)

Ladyhawk
02-05-2009, 07:52 PM
No, it is not their home church. In fact, Cindy mentioned in her FBI interview that they weren't particularly religious before, but they had become more so since all of this took place. Their prayer services were held in a much smaller Baptist church. This church was selected because it was wired for video and can accommodate a large crowd. I don't have the link, but IIRC, Conway said that, but I could be wrong, so JMO.

Well I hope the ceremony is dignified and in keeping with the remembrance of a child whose life spark did not really have a chance to ignite and burn brightly for any length of time.

~jomomma~
02-05-2009, 07:52 PM
this is my favorite picture of casey

http://i39.tinypic.com/izpxyc.jpg

Holy duct tape!!!!

CelticDawn
02-05-2009, 07:53 PM
well randy, when one goes back in time to their earlier interviews, they exhibited abhorrent behaviour toward the public and LE. LE being chastised.....

her daughter conducted her life as if she never had a child after June 15 and Cindy Anthony is spewing hatred for the very people who should have been notified BY HER DAUGHTER after she 'claimed' her babysitter's # was 'no longer in service'.

this is where the case began...and these people should have hid under a rock.

it was incredulous behaviour and downright distasteful, given one fact:
Their daughter was having a fabulous time without her daughter in tow for one full month.

NO AMBER ALERT?
Caylee was not given the best benefit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=794SU2yT5So'within a week no one was actually giving Caylee 100% effort looking for her".

unbelievable.

best regards,
Pru
who exactly would have to issue the amber alert???....I dont know about down here but theyre issued by LE here.....Did they really have control fo that???...<Im not taking into account that THEY TOOK 31 DAYS TO EVEN REPORT HER MISSING> :mad: :cuss:

Ladyhawk
02-05-2009, 07:53 PM
Casey may have given them to him while she was out on bail. I've always suspected that Casey was responsible for selling pictures. How else can they finance her defense team?

Are these the pictures that were taken down from the internet prior to her arrest?

cherish
02-05-2009, 07:54 PM
I hope I'm wrong, but this public memorial is just not sitting right with me.
Metal detectors, security, and pat downs, just does not go along with paying respect to Caylee.

And speaking of paying, how much will all of this cost? I assume the church will be "passing the plate", but since you can't bring your purse in you might want to wear something with deep pockets, and please no coins, it will set off the metal detectors.

And I would imagine a need for extra police protection and crowd control just by what we've seen in the Anthony's front lawn. Taxpayers

Sorry I don't want to sound cynical, Caylee deserves a dignified and respectful service and I hope my feelings are wrong.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 07:57 PM
I remember that. You're absolutely, positively sure the only time Caylee was ever in Casey's trunk was after her death, right? And you're positive Casey didn't drug her either, right?

Okay, never mind. Let's go back to discussing Cindy. :laugh:

Can you link me a post where I ever said "positive" about either of those things? TIA.

??WHATthe??
02-05-2009, 07:57 PM
Yes, but it appears that our master-baiters aren't on the board lately.:lol:

Ummm they are busy being master-baiters somewhere else I'm sure...:lol:

Unperson1984
02-05-2009, 07:58 PM
Don't get me wrong, I am NO Cindy fan--or any Anthony fan, for that matter. However, there is a difference between Sharon Rocha and Cindy Anthony. Sharon was the victim's mother. Cindy has a more complicated situation: She's the grandmother of the victim and the mother of the perpetrator. You have to ask yourself how you would act. You would have to support your daughter. The one you helped create and raise, the one you love, the one who is remaining. How could you tell the world you love her but hate her, that raising her was not only a waste but also a failure? She's not equipped to do it.
imo

You're quite right Fresca. I was not comparing the women, I was comparing the act of excluding people from either a memorial or a funeral. In each case if the family has strong feelings one way or the other I believe those feelings should be respected.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 07:58 PM
Casey may have given them to him while she was out on bail. I've always suspected that Casey was responsible for selling pictures. How else can they finance her defense team?


BINGO! :thumbsup:

bchand
02-05-2009, 07:58 PM
Kudos to your mom! (do you have it to post?)

It's in this slideshow I think:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17253850/detail.html

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 07:59 PM
I hope I'm wrong, but this public memorial is just not sitting right with me.
Metal detectors, security, and pat downs, just does not go along with paying respect to Caylee.

And speaking of paying, how much will all of this cost? I assume the church will be "passing the plate", but since you can't bring your purse in you might want to wear something with deep pockets, and please no coins, it will set off the metal detectors.

And I would imagine a need for extra police protection and crowd control just by what we've seen in the Anthony's front lawn. Taxpayers

Sorry I don't want to sound cynical, Caylee deserves a dignified and respectful service and I hope my feelings are wrong.

Don't assume the church will be passing the plate at this memorial. It is not usually done at funerals or memorials, by churches.

bchand
02-05-2009, 08:00 PM
I hope I'm wrong, but this public memorial is just not sitting right with me.
Metal detectors, security, and pat downs, just does not go along with paying respect to Caylee.

And speaking of paying, how much will all of this cost? I assume the church will be "passing the plate", but since you can't bring your purse in you might want to wear something with deep pockets, and please no coins, it will set off the metal detectors.

And I would imagine a need for extra police protection and crowd control just by what we've seen in the Anthony's front lawn. Taxpayers

Sorry I don't want to sound cynical, Caylee deserves a dignified and respectful service and I hope my feelings are wrong.

One of the articles I read about the church says they have their own security, which I found odd but that more security will be hired.

Cury-us Coyote
02-05-2009, 08:00 PM
Are these the pictures that were taken down from the internet prior to her arrest?

IF the anticipated photo sale is the same pictures LE acquired on July 24, 2008 from Brighthouse Photobucket records via subpoena for Icons157 with date/timestamp of modifications, a quick document release could make CA & JB's photos relatively worthless, IMO.
jmo

CelticDawn
02-05-2009, 08:01 PM
I hope I'm wrong, but this public memorial is just not sitting right with me.
Metal detectors, security, and pat downs, just does not go along with paying respect to Caylee.

And speaking of paying, how much will all of this cost? I assume the church will be "passing the plate", but since you can't bring your purse in you might want to wear something with deep pockets, and please no coins, it will set off the metal detectors.

And I would imagine a need for extra police protection and crowd control just by what we've seen in the Anthony's front lawn. Taxpayers

Sorry I don't want to sound cynical, Caylee deserves a dignified and respectful service and I hope my feelings are wrong.

It does seem quite tacky and uncultured and classless now doesn't it....Part of the reason is all of the media attention and all the back and forth BS between these ATTORNEYS....I swear...tehy sound like my two youngest

sadly....the dignity of Caylee has to continue to suffer because of all of that...

Ladyhawk
02-05-2009, 08:01 PM
How is Casey/Jose going to get her hands on the pictures in order to sell them?
ETA: This isn't bait, is it?

He already has them. Casey brought them to his office when she was out on bail. imo

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 08:01 PM
Well I hope the ceremony is dignified and in keeping with the remembrance of a child whose life spark did not really have a chance to ignite and burn brightly for any length of time.Agreed.....

Pruddennce
02-05-2009, 08:01 PM
who exactly would have to issue the amber alert???....I dont know about down here but theyre issued by LE here.....Did they really have control fo that???...<Im not taking into account that THEY TOOK 31 DAYS TO EVEN REPORT HER MISSING> :mad: :cuss:

that was Cindy's big press release. over and over....holding LE accountable for not DOING THEIR JOB....

this was NOT an Amber Alert situation.....but CA, always the most informed says it should have been.....huhhhhhhhhhh?

Caylee didnt just vanish within a moment's notice....she wasnt reported missing for a month!

CINDY HAD TO BE TOLD TO GO HOME AND CALL POLICE when she told her co-workers about "no contact with Caylee' and the smell of the car.

*she had work to do*

jaw dropping.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:02 PM
Well, I agree with you there!

(Do me a HUGE favor! When I go, please make sure Padilla is "disinvited" to my service. I cannot stand the man. I'll do the same for you, too!)

Well there's another thing we agree on.

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 08:02 PM
Are these the pictures that were taken down from the internet prior to her arrest?That has always been my thought... which, to me, implies something nefarious. But most of you know my thoughts on this.

~jomomma~
02-05-2009, 08:03 PM
Ummm they are busy being master-baiters somewhere else I'm sure...:lol:

heh heh

i thought casey couldn't make me any sicker to my stomach. selling the pics? :mad:

Pruddennce
02-05-2009, 08:03 PM
Don't assume the church will be passing the plate at this memorial. It is not usually done at funerals or memorials, by churches.

but if their 'friends' from KidFinders are there, I would wager they will be passing something out for dollars outside the church.

Save the children!

Im sure the crooks will be out in full force.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Neffy
02-05-2009, 08:03 PM
I wonder who is giving these photos out?? Casey doesn't have them in jail.

I also thought casey's team lawyers were working for no money??

They only persons with these photo's is Cindy George or Lee.

Casey's team lied. First it was pro bono then no ones business then it's a secret - confidentiality agreement dontcha know.

Baez it has no bearing.

That Casey would sell out her daughter. I'd say it does especially to fund her defense for murdering her. The pics mean nothing to her accept $$$$$$$$$$$

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 08:04 PM
I'll run go look. No prob.Thanks! I know it is in that collection that one of the local media outlets has. But it has like 150+ pics, and almost dinnertime here!

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:06 PM
I was being funny. (Apparently unsuccessfully.) I don't recall you saying "positively." My most humble apologies.

I do recall you don't believe she was in the trunk while alive, or that she was drugged ... correct?

Point is, I don't agree. So I guess it's back to cussing and discussing Cindy. :wink:

Okay. That'll work.

I do know I never said "positive" about anything. I appreciate your admitting that.

??WHATthe??
02-05-2009, 08:06 PM
Actually, I don't respect them. They are behaving very badly, but they are not murderers or primary victims. The primary victim was, I think, the love of their lives. I cannot imagine how humiliated the Anthony's must be. But they are NOT going to let the public see that. So they act out in the public arena. I think we want to see appropriate behavior from them, but, honestly, it may be asking too much. imo

The only thing I have ever expected them to do was the right thing... and so far they have not done the right thing by the "victim"... Ms. Caylee. You say you think she was the love of their lives, but tell me Fresca... what type of behavior they have exhibited during this whole process that actually shows love for that child? The teeshirts? The flyers? The mobile billboard?

I simply have to disagree due to the fact that the only one they have exhibited consern for that I have seen, is the POS that is in jail!

I do agree however that I would not want to be in their shoes... but I can tell you that if my daughter had done what their daughter has done... I wouldn't be sitting by my daughters side, I wouldn't be defending her and I would be doing everything I could to make sure my granddaughter got the justice she deserved. But that's me...:blink:

I enjoy your thoughts though...:wub:

Ladyhawk
02-05-2009, 08:06 PM
One of the articles I read about the church says they have their own security, which I found odd but that more security will be hired.

I don't think it's odd that a church has its own security,.....there is a precedent....look at the Knights Templars. Besides, someone has to direct traffic and parking. Some of these huge churches even have authority to block streets on Sundays to accommodate everyone that wants to attend.

Tracian
02-05-2009, 08:08 PM
You know, Casey can't get anything, Cindy and George would have to bring them to Baez for sale.

Barbara fl.
02-05-2009, 08:08 PM
I hope I'm wrong, but this public memorial is just not sitting right with me.
Metal detectors, security, and pat downs, just does not go along with paying respect to Caylee.

And speaking of paying, how much will all of this cost? I assume the church will be "passing the plate", but since you can't bring your purse in you might want to wear something with deep pockets, and please no coins, it will set off the metal detectors.

And I would imagine a need for extra police protection and crowd control just by what we've seen in the Anthony's front lawn. Taxpayers

Sorry I don't want to sound cynical, Caylee deserves a dignified and respectful service and I hope my feelings are wrong.

I too don't feel that all this is necessary...or appropriate....If this is what they actually feel that is needed then if I were the family I wouldn't hold a public memorial.....we certainly do not want anymore horrible acts to be committed, thats for sure.....

I truly hope that everyone carries themselves with the utmost respect for Caylee.....after all it is HER memorial not the families, not Casey's... not the defense team....not LE.....not Lenny Padilla's.....but Caylee's.


I hope everyone taht attends keeps that in mind....JMOO

bchand
02-05-2009, 08:08 PM
I don't think it's odd that a church has its own security,.....there is a precedent....look at the Knights Templars. Besides, someone has to direct traffic and parking. Some of these huge churches even have authority to block streets on Sundays to accommodate everyone that wants to attend.

That makes sense Ladyhawk. I've never belonged to a church that was so big, it needed security for anything.

TY

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 08:09 PM
http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/ratched/?action=view&current=close.jpg

http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/ee180/ratched/?action=view&current=42169410.jpgExcellent, Lavenia - yes, it is the first one you posted. Thanks!

ETA: There is a much larger version of that pic on one of the local media sites... maybe the Sentinel? I will look tomorrow during my lunch hour.

bchand
02-05-2009, 08:10 PM
I too don't feel that all this is necessary...or appropriate....If this is what they actually feel that is needed then if I were the family I wouldn't hold a public memorial.....we certainly do not want anymore horrible acts to be committed, thats for sure.....

I truly hope that everyone carries themselves with the utmost respect for Caylee.....after all it is HER memorial not the families, not Casey's... not the defense team....not LE.....not Lenny Padilla's.....but Caylee's.


I hope everyone taht attends keeps that in mind....JMOO

Me too, including the Anthonys. I hope they don't try and influence a jury pool by posting huge photos of the loving mother either.

CelticDawn
02-05-2009, 08:11 PM
that was Cindy's big press release. over and over....holding LE accountable for not DOING THEIR JOB....

this was NOT an Amber Alert situation.....but CA, always the most informed says it should have been.....huhhhhhhhhhh?

Caylee didnt just vanish within a moment's notice....she wasnt reported missing for a month!

CINDY HAD TO BE TOLD TO GO HOME AND CALL POLICE when she told her co-workers about "no contact with Caylee' and the smell of the car.

*she had work to do*

jaw dropping.

IMO

best regards,
Pru


well I just hope she keeps her trap shut for a while ....all shes done is give people poor opinions of herself...


IMO....LE already knew that they were NOT looking for a live child....Cindy George and LEE did also....but Cindy wanted it HER WAY in order to further perpetrate that ruse that "Miss Casey" was a victim.....like LE wasnt going to verify everything that could be verified.....MY GOD!.... LE even does that with people they KNOW are innocent ...!!! :cuss: that really gets on my nerves...!!!

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 08:11 PM
You know, Casey can't get anything, Cindy and George would have to bring them to Baez for sale.





yeppers!!! I sure would like to know who is getting these deals together and how much $$ is changing hands and where it's going. I sure hope we find out one day.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:11 PM
You know, Casey can't get anything, Cindy and George would have to bring them to Baez for sale.

Not necessarily.

happygert
02-05-2009, 08:12 PM
They only persons with these photo's is Cindy George or Lee.

Casey's team lied. First it was pro bono then no ones business then it's a secret - confidentiality agreement dontcha know.

Baez it has no bearing.

That Casey would sell out her daughter. I'd say it does especially to fund her defense for murdering her. The pics mean nothing to her accept $$$$$$$$$$$

Exactly... IMO the memorial service was sold too...Highest bidder came thru..Live feed whos the live feed that's covering it? Is it one of the channels in fl or is it outside...
casey does not have ONE picture of Caylee in her jail cell.
The whole dam family has sold Caylee... What a fine bunch this family is.. Love her so much that we have to sell everything...so we can live off our dead granddaughter.. Heck everyone knows thats true how else can anyone live and pay bills when NO ONE'S WORKING...for over 7 1/2 months.....DISGUSTING.. DOWN RIGHT SICKENING! CHARGE THEM ALL then THE"D ALL HAVE 3 HOTS and A COT......NO BILLS TO PAY NO MORE BLOOD MONEY FROM CAYLEE......ITS TIME TO STOP ALL THIS!!!!!

Neffy
02-05-2009, 08:12 PM
Me too, including the Anthonys. I hope they don't try and influence a jury pool by posting huge photos of the loving mother either.

That would reveal what a big farce it is IF that will happen.

bchand
02-05-2009, 08:13 PM
lol. Nancy's having a min-stroke :rolleyes: over the sale of more pictures. This isn't going over so well.

Sounds like it's real, too. Kathi B. is confirming the info is from a very reliable source.

So if all the money is going to Casey's train wreck of a defense team, there's still the question of how G&C are living day-to-day without jobs. Family, perhaps?

Well it really is kind of bizarre isn't it SayWHAT? You murder your child and then are able to sell photos of her to pay for your defense.

ConchGirl
02-05-2009, 08:14 PM
but if their 'friends' from KidFinders are there, I would wager they will be passing something out for dollars outside the church.

Save the children!

Im sure the crooks will be out in full force.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Conway was sure to let the media know that Caylee's remains would not be there so there would be no skeleton snatching. Who do they think they are? No purses, cameras, etc. at a memorial and who can come and who can't. This makes me sick. It's no wonder that George tried to get away and I hope he's not there because I don't think he can handle this drama right now. moo

CelticDawn
02-05-2009, 08:15 PM
Not necessarily.

she hasnt been found guilty yet....So does that not profiting thingy hold???....I would wonder about that one...Im sure the law is clear on when she can be denied the right to profit....and from what....

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 08:15 PM
lol. Nancy's having a min-stroke :rolleyes: over the sale of more pictures. This isn't going over so well.

Sounds like it's real, too. Kathi B. is confirming the info is from a very reliable source.

So if all the money is going to Casey's train wreck of a defense team, there's still the question of how G&C are living day-to-day without jobs. Family, perhaps?I don't really have the answer to this, but my GUESS is that C&G "owned" some of the pics they sold. In other words, THEY took the pics, not Casey. The ones Casey sold are the ones she herself took. JMO

Barbara fl.
02-05-2009, 08:15 PM
Oh, you know they will, bchand. The princess' big cheesy smile will be all over that church. Mark my words.


Maybe that's why they want such tight security....alot of folks might not take to kindly to pictures of the murderer.....I can certainly see that causing an uproah......

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 08:15 PM
it just feels like...$$$$ is STILL being made off that dead baby. Who? How? How much?

It's all kind of disgusting.

cherish
02-05-2009, 08:15 PM
That makes sense Ladyhawk. I've never belonged to a church that was so big, it needed security for anything.

TY

It wouldn't surprise me if the church's security are volunteer members of the congregation.

Heyes
02-05-2009, 08:15 PM
No, no, no. Cindy is not the devil. Casey is the devil. Cindy is the devil's advocate. How could she not be? A mother is often a criminal's best PR agent.


Perfect Fresca!

Getting caught up, once again.... This "memorial" or as I like to call it, The cindy show, is really beyond belief. No purses? Wouldn't you think that after all their Maxwell Smart maneuvers on dodging the non existant press last night that maybe, just maybe they don't need to have security at the level of a visiting Royal? Just askin....

WillowInFlight
02-05-2009, 08:15 PM
I don't think it's odd that a church has its own security,.....there is a precedent....look at the Knights Templars. Besides, someone has to direct traffic and parking. Some of these huge churches even have authority to block streets on Sundays to accommodate everyone that wants to attend.

Wouldn't it be something if no one showed up, I just can't see people going to support Cindy and George when they are still supporting the murderer, I couldn't do it.

Tracian
02-05-2009, 08:15 PM
Not necessarily.


Pray tell, how would Baez get into the A's house to obtain pictures to sell without permission of the home owners?

Ladyhawk
02-05-2009, 08:16 PM
Okay. That'll work.

I do know I never said "positive" about anything. I appreciate your admitting that.

One of my theories was that on the afternoon of the 16th of June, Casey came back to the house and pulled the car into the garage, pulled the garage door down and left the car running with Caylee in the car....went into the house to either look for money, another credit card, checks, food, whatever...and....spent too much time inside and when she returned, Caylee was dead or very very close to it. Carbon monoxide would not take a child long to be overcome by it....she could have thrown up a bit hence the duct tape. That would be the accidental killing of Caylee theory. She could have deliberately carbon monoxided her also.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:17 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if the church's security are volunteer members of the congregation.

That could very well be.

Tracian
02-05-2009, 08:17 PM
Betcha money. :wink: Whatever it takes to keep the Mother of the Year well-protected and defended.

Caylee who?

Sadly, I believe you are correct.

happygert
02-05-2009, 08:17 PM
I hope not one person buys those's pictures.......

Barbara fl.
02-05-2009, 08:18 PM
Well there's another thing we agree on.



Don't leave me out of that one.......

Cury-us Coyote
02-05-2009, 08:18 PM
Conway was sure to let the media know that Caylee's remains would not be there so there would be no skeleton snatching. Who do they think they are? No purses, cameras, etc. at a memorial and who can come and who can't. This makes me sick. It's no wonder that George tried to get away and I hope he's not there because I don't think he can handle this drama right now. moo

FWIW, Fox35 reported yesterday that the A's visited the funeral home, met with Baez, and worked to hire off-duty LE security for the memorial. IMO, a full day after leaving the hospital the evening before. Unfortunately the video was not released. Perhaps a local will recall the segment?
jmo

happygert
02-05-2009, 08:18 PM
Good question wonder if someone on PD ran ZFG's plate......

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 08:18 PM
Not really Fresca. If they had listened to cindy's momma, kept their mouths shut, we wouldn't know how ignorant (mostly cindy & lee) they really are. I think most of us would have honestly been on their side.
jmo




absolUTELY their own actions, behaviors and words have made them the stuff of discussion they have become.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:19 PM
One of my theories was that on the afternoon of the 16th of June, Casey came back to the house and pulled the car into the garage, pulled the garage door down and left the car running with Caylee in the car....went into the house to either look for money, another credit card, checks, food, whatever...and....spent too much time inside and when she returned, Caylee was dead or very very close to it. Carbon monoxide would not take a child long to be overcome by it....she could have thrown up a bit hence the duct tape. That would be the accidental killing of Caylee theory. She could have deliberately carbon monoxided her also.


Interesting theory, Ladyhawk. As good as any. I know I've posted plenty of times that I do not discount George's statement that he saw them leave the house on the 16th.

IM4Truth
02-05-2009, 08:19 PM
Hmm, Casey deletes hundreds of photos of Caylee from her myspace page. Now she is trying to sell photos to pay for her defense? Does that spell premeditated? Next question, where are those photos? Deleted from her hard drive. All photo albums confiscated from the Anthony home. Where are those photos? Does Lee have something to do with this? Was Casey uploading more photos during all of those hours in JB's office? Just crawled out from under my covers to post this and won't even see any responses as I crawl back under the covers. Got the space heater going for now and candles lit. Too cold in Miami!

bchand
02-05-2009, 08:20 PM
Perfect Fresca!

Getting caught up, once again.... This "memorial" or as I like to call it, The cindy show, is really beyond belief. No purses? Wouldn't you think that after all their Maxwell Smart maneuvers on dodging the non existant press last night that maybe, just maybe they don't need to have security at the level of a visiting Royal? Just askin....

lol I loved Fresca's "devils advocate" meaning Cindy but a talking head just used another good phrase. "Satan's Sidekick"

MiamiNice1
02-05-2009, 08:20 PM
NG to LP: Before I ask you this question - Please go one night without blaming CindyAnthony.....throw me a bone here!

:laugh:

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:20 PM
Don't leave me out of that one.......

Oh I won't! :smile:

Ladyhawk
02-05-2009, 08:20 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if the church's security are volunteer members of the congregation.

Probably so, just like the flower committee, the church dinner committee, the ushers, program printers, newsletter people, church directory assemblers, church nursery workers, etc.

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 08:21 PM
lenny's bs story about casey hearing the sawgrass manager yelling....Zenaida...Zenaida gonzales...you forgot to sign your application....while casey just happens to be driving by ......:scared:

MiamiNice1
02-05-2009, 08:21 PM
Hmm, Casey deletes hundreds of photos of Caylee from her myspace page. Now she is trying to sell photos to pay for her defense? Does that spell premeditated? Next question, where are those photos? Deleted from her hard drive. All photo albums confiscated from the Anthony home. Where are those photos? Does Lee have something to do with this? Was Casey uploading more photos during all of those hours in JB's office? Just crawled out from under my covers to post this and won't even see any responses as I crawl back under the covers. Got the space heater going for now and candles lit. Too cold in Miami!
We just turned the HEAT on to 71 degrees! Brrrrrrr!

happygert
02-05-2009, 08:22 PM
Now, now Heyes. Cindy's concerned about her safety. We must pull out all the stops to keep her safe.

Caylee who?

Isn't it funny how the adults need to be protected but ..Little Caylee a 2 year old was left to defend herself...

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:22 PM
But you are looking at them through your own moral and ethical eyes. I think Casey was the love of their lives by their definition of love and by their relationship with her. By all accounts Caylee was cared for by Cindy and George. If it weren't for them, who knows how Caylee would have lived while she was alive?

And, as I stated in my post, and which you seemed to miss, is that they have behaved very badly. The size of the chips on their shoulders is monumental. They have operated from defensiveness.

It is easy to say you would ensure that your grandchild got the justice she deserves, but would you really if that justice involved proactively pointing a finger at your own daughter? I condemn Cindy for not calling the authorities until 31 days after she last saw Caylee--but I understand it. I condemn George's weakness in all of this--but I understand it.

You are expecting too much of them. They are not capable of doing what you say you would do. Do not mistake me--saying this is is not sympathizing with them or defending them. But look at what their daughter did--and you expect more of them, the ones who raised her?

imo

I'm totally at a loss for words. You play "both sides" so well. You seem to understand everything, in total, not bits and pieces.....one side or the other.

I gotta say this is POST OF THE DAY.

bchand
02-05-2009, 08:23 PM
lenny's bs story about casey hearing the sawgrass manager yelling....Zenaida...Zenaida gonzales...you forgot to sign your application....while casey just happens to be driving by ......:scared:

lol another silly stretch by Lenny.

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 08:24 PM
Good question wonder if someone on PD ran ZFG's plate......


I think that's more likely than casey driving past when the manager is yelling at Zenaida....

eta of course we are all thinking tonyR imo

WillowInFlight
02-05-2009, 08:24 PM
Isn't it funny how the adults need to be protected but ..Little Caylee a 2 year old was left to defend herself...

Isn't that the truth?:crying:

happygert
02-05-2009, 08:24 PM
We just turned the HEAT on to 71 degrees! Brrrrrrr!

9 degrees here what are you talking about 71 being cold?......:lol:

IMO 9 degrees is still not as cold as the cold hearts of the A' family....

lovelaw
02-05-2009, 08:24 PM
it just feels like...$$$$ is STILL being made off that dead baby. Who? How? How much?

It's all kind of disgusting.

Over 200K ALREADY!~

And...as I said back a few...the pics have to be coming from the Anthonys.

happygert
02-05-2009, 08:25 PM
I think that's more likely than casey driving past when the manager is yelling at Zenaida....

eta of course we are all thinking tonyR imo


me too......

steffaroob4
02-05-2009, 08:25 PM
lenny's bs story about casey hearing the sawgrass manager yelling....Zenaida...Zenaida gonzales...you forgot to sign your application....while casey just happens to be driving by ......:scared:

Funny thing, there is not one cell phone ping for anywhere close to sawgrass between June 16th to the 27th. Silly LP:w00t:

Pruddennce
02-05-2009, 08:25 PM
I don't really have the answer to this, but my GUESS is that C&G "owned" some of the pics they sold. In other words, THEY took the pics, not Casey. The ones Casey sold are the ones she herself took. JMO

and how does that work exactly, G? Baez has to request the pics be turned over from the Anthonys'?

IMO, THEY are the ones in cohoots selling the pictures on BEHALF of her defense.

I see the ANTHONYS gathering up the pics with their own palms outstretched. one for you, one for me, one for you, one for me.

if not, how exactly is Casey going to prove she is the rightful owner and all monies go to her for the sale of specific pics of Caylee?

man, I get all barfed up typing that to begin with.

IMO of course.

best regards,
Pru

Ladyhawk
02-05-2009, 08:25 PM
Interesting theory, Ladyhawk. As good as any. I know I've posted plenty of times that I do not discount George's statement that he saw them leave the house on the 16th.

We'll probably never know about George and his 16th statement unless or until a full description of the clothing found with the remains is revealed. The ones George described or the ones from the ASL video.....

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 08:26 PM
Hmm, Casey deletes hundreds of photos of Caylee from her myspace page. Now she is trying to sell photos to pay for her defense? Does that spell premeditated? Next question, where are those photos? Deleted from her hard drive. All photo albums confiscated from the Anthony home. Where are those photos? Does Lee have something to do with this? Was Casey uploading more photos during all of those hours in JB's office? Just crawled out from under my covers to post this and won't even see any responses as I crawl back under the covers. Got the space heater going for now and candles lit. Too cold in Miami!I completely agree, IM. To me, the fact that hundreds of photos of Caylee were deleted means one of two things. Either the photos were inculpatory for the defense, or they are money-making photos. JMO

cassidy
02-05-2009, 08:26 PM
Not necessarily.

True. We don't know what she was carrying in the packed-full backpack she toted to Baez's office on a regular basis. They could have a safe load of pics just waiting to be sold.

JMO

Heyes
02-05-2009, 08:28 PM
So who's going to blame Cindy for this? :rolleyes:

I do!
Those pictures are in cindy's house. I bet she hands them right over. She could lie and tell casey she can't find him. Ya know kinda like when she lied to the FBI and couldn't find Caylee's brush so she handed them casey's which Caylee maybe some times used?
IMO

Ladyhawk
02-05-2009, 08:28 PM
and how does that work exactly, G? Baez has to request the pics be turned over from the Anthonys'?

IMO, THEY are the ones in cohoots selling the pictures on BEHALF of her defense.

I see the ANTHONYS gathering up the pics with their own palms outstretched. one for you, one for me, one for you, one for me.

if not, how exactly is Casey going to prove she is the rightful owner and all monies go to her for the sale of specific pics of Caylee?

man, I get all barfed up typing that to begin with.

IMO of course.

best regards,
Pru

Well Pru, after seeing Miss Casey on the 14th of August in her little hissy fit, I will say that she will claim the pics are hers and cloud up and rain all over anyone that dares to challenge her. But I also believe that Baez already has every picture that is worth selling and has had them since she was out on bail.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:28 PM
We'll probably never know about George and his 16th statement unless or until a full description of the clothing found with the remains is revealed. The ones George described or the ones from the ASL video.....

I'm not so sure that would tell us anything for sure, though. Casey could have put on the same clothes the next morning.....or she could have changed her clothes from when George said they left......

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:29 PM
True. We don't know what she was carrying in the packed-full backpack she toted to Baez's office on a regular basis. They could have a safe load of pics just waiting to be sold.

JMO

Yep. Exactly.

Tracian
02-05-2009, 08:29 PM
Over 200K ALREADY!~

And...as I said back a few...the pics have to be coming from the Anthonys.


Of course they do...Like I said how else would Baez get the pictures, unless someone gives them to him, Casey is not in the position to get the pictures herself.

Unperson1984
02-05-2009, 08:29 PM
Well, I agree with you there!

(Do me a HUGE favor! When I go, please make sure Padilla is "disinvited" to my service. I cannot stand the man. I'll do the same for you, too!)


You''ve got my word.

:wink:

dojewo
02-05-2009, 08:29 PM
Over 200K ALREADY!~

And...as I said back a few...the pics have to be coming from the Anthonys.Hi all, this is really sad that this kind of money is being made from Caylee's death JMO

Cury-us Coyote
02-05-2009, 08:30 PM
Hmm, Casey deletes hundreds of photos of Caylee from her myspace page. Now she is trying to sell photos to pay for her defense? Does that spell premeditated? Next question, where are those photos? Deleted from her hard drive. All photo albums confiscated from the Anthony home. Where are those photos? Does Lee have something to do with this? Was Casey uploading more photos during all of those hours in JB's office? Just crawled out from under my covers to post this and won't even see any responses as I crawl back under the covers. Got the space heater going for now and candles lit. Too cold in Miami!

A quick document release could solve a portion of the problem or reduce the value of Caylee pictures.

On July 24, 2008 LE subpoena'd Brighthouse Photobucket records for Icons157 with date/timestamp of modifications.
jmo

marshmallow
02-05-2009, 08:30 PM
Don't assume the church will be passing the plate at this memorial. It is not usually done at funerals or memorials, by churches.

nothing about this show Cindy's putting on is usual.

IM4Truth
02-05-2009, 08:30 PM
We just turned the HEAT on to 71 degrees! Brrrrrrr!

I don't have heat but this morning I used the space heater and candles and got it up from 60 to 70 degrees. Stayed in my sweats all day. Anyway, I think Lee must have a lot of photos somewhere, maybe on his computer. I don't think they ever confiscated that, did they? I'm pretty certain I remember CSI removing all photos and albums in one of their searches? Casey was planning this all along! She probably thought she would get out and she would get all the money, buy her own little house and party happily ever after. Little did she know.

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 08:30 PM
Over 200K ALREADY!~

And...as I said back a few...the pics have to be coming from the Anthonys.




And that's the $$$ we know about. If/when we learn the truth it's going to be OBSCENE...more so than we can imagine imo.

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 08:31 PM
Funny thing, there is not one cell phone ping for anywhere close to sawgrass between June 16th to the 27th. Silly LP:w00t:


You are most definitely the Ping Queen, Steff.....

Tracian
02-05-2009, 08:31 PM
True. We don't know what she was carrying in the packed-full backpack she toted to Baez's office on a regular basis. They could have a safe load of pics just waiting to be sold.

JMO


Even if that was possible...I wonder how the A's are going to feel about this...

Cury-us Coyote
02-05-2009, 08:32 PM
lenny's bs story about casey hearing the sawgrass manager yelling....Zenaida...Zenaida gonzales...you forgot to sign your application....while casey just happens to be driving by ......:scared:

IMO, it is amazing LP can deliver that line with a straight face.
jmo

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 08:33 PM
and how does that work exactly, G? Baez has to request the pics be turned over from the Anthonys'?

IMO, THEY are the ones in cohoots selling the pictures on BEHALF of her defense.

I see the ANTHONYS gathering up the pics with their own palms outstretched. one for you, one for me, one for you, one for me.

if not, how exactly is Casey going to prove she is the rightful owner and all monies go to her for the sale of specific pics of Caylee?

man, I get all barfed up typing that to begin with.

IMO of course.

best regards,
PruOh, I agree with you, Pru. I was just suggesting why some might be sold be C&G, and others might be sold by Casey.

Tracian
02-05-2009, 08:33 PM
And that's the $$$ we know about. If/when we learn the truth it's going to be OBSCENE...more so than we can imagine imo.



I agree Kindee...no doubt in my mind, somehow the bills are being paid.

Pat
02-05-2009, 08:33 PM
That makes sense Ladyhawk. I've never belonged to a church that was so big, it needed security for anything.

TY

Someone earlier (SS?) said they'd reason to go to this church and it is a "mega" church.

Given the Anthony's notoriety, I wondered about the attendance.

Do you think there is a good chance the pastor will encourage his congregation to attend to support the Anthonys and pay respects to Caylee?

I would think, in the spirit of Christianity, the pastor would expect personal feelings to be set aside for this one day. The turnout could be larger than I expect. This is pure speculation on my part. Could be the pastor of this church is seeing $$$ in publicity for his church. Sadly, pastors can be as "worldly" as lawyers. (No offense to our board lawyers! :laugh:)

Too bad Cindy didn't listen to her mother and brother.

steffaroob4
02-05-2009, 08:33 PM
A quick document release could solve a portion of the problem or reduce the value of Caylee pictures.

On July 24, 2008 LE subpoena'd Brighthouse Photobucket records for Icons157 with date/timestamp of modifications.
jmo

You know, this whole subject is just so upsetting, I hope LE releases everything they have.

There are so many pictures out there already, why would anyone want to pay for any more?

I can't understand why the GP's haven't said word one about these pictures, when they paid for the cameras and videos, I am sure.

marshmallow
02-05-2009, 08:34 PM
It does seem quite tacky and uncultured and classless now doesn't it....Part of the reason is all of the media attention and all the back and forth BS between these ATTORNEYS....I swear...tehy sound like my two youngest

sadly....the dignity of Caylee has to continue to suffer because of all of that...

in my humble and personal opinion, this "service" is all about the Anthonys showing Casey how much they support her. Instead of a memorial paying tribute to a short life taken too soon, it seems to have growni nto a production number staged for Casey's veiwing pleasure.

WillowInFlight
02-05-2009, 08:35 PM
in my humble and personal opinion, this "service" is all about the Anthonys showing Casey how much they support her. Instead of a memorial paying tribute to a short life taken too soon, it seems to have growni nto a production number staged for Casey's veiwing pleasure.

I wonder who the speakers will be?

happygert
02-05-2009, 08:35 PM
Over 200K ALREADY!~

And...as I said back a few...the pics have to be coming from the Anthonys.

Yep and Im guessing there's more money to be made off of Caylee... Just wait..Im guessing the funeral will be private but will be recorded and sold...jmho If and when she finally put to rest.It was also reported that defense has done all testing ...Body still in a cardboard box on a shelf in a cooler at funeral home........

Pruddennce
02-05-2009, 08:35 PM
If it weren't for them, who knows how Caylee would have lived while she was alive?

And, as I stated in my post, and which you seemed to miss, is that they have behaved very badly. The size of the chips on their shoulders is monumental. They have operated from defensiveness.



respectfully snipped.....

we saw how Caylee lived. she had decent weekends most likely when out of the hands of her mother. other times, she was sleeping on some BF's couch while casey puffed and drank.

or slept in between them.....

and where was she enjoying her toddler life during the days when her mother left the home with her supposedly for work? that was almost all of her life.....

IMO, Cindy, George and Lee have not 'evolved into other people' due to this tragedy. they are who they are, extremely unlikeable people who have expectations of others, but hold themselves in high regard.

the bubble home. (which has been penetrated now)......

....which is why IMO Cindy is so angry....but fails to realize she invited this criticism. if she didnt present herself to the media in this manner, her bubble home would be somewhat intact.

*help find Caylee* thank you. have a good day. <-----end of statement...

but there was never an end to that statement....in fact, she had to be prompted to BEGIN THE STATEMENT.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Neffy
02-05-2009, 08:35 PM
Pray tell, how would Baez get into the A's house to obtain pictures to sell without permission of the home owners?

Used Zanny's key.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:36 PM
Someone earlier (SS?) said they'd reason to go to this church and it is a "mega" church.

Given the Anthony's notoriety, I wondered about the attendance.

Do you think there is a good chance the pastor will encourage his congregation to attend to support the Anthonys and pay respects to Caylee?

I would think, in the spirit of Christianity, the pastor would expect personal feelings to be set aside for this one day. The turnout could be larger than I expect. This is pure speculation on my part. Could be the pastor of this church is seeing $$$ in publicity for his church. Sadly, pastors can be as "worldly" as lawyers. (No offense to our board lawyers! :laugh:)

Too bad Cindy didn't listen to her mother and brother.

I did say it was a mega church; I have been to a meeting there.

I completely agree, and I anticipate, that the pastor would expect personal feelings to be set aside. No doubt in my mind at all. The church is not looking for publicity or fame....the church is looking to offer compassion and respite.

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 08:36 PM
Someone earlier (SS?) said they'd reason to go to this church and it is a "mega" church.

Given the Anthony's notoriety, I wondered about the attendance.

Do you think there is a good chance the pastor will encourage his congregation to attend to support the Anthonys and pay respects to Caylee?

I would think, in the spirit of Christianity, the pastor would expect personal feelings to be set aside for this one day. The turnout could be larger than I expect. This is pure speculation on my part. Could be the pastor of this church is seeing $$$ in publicity for his church. Sadly, pastors can be as "worldly" as lawyers. (No offense to our board lawyers! :laugh:)

Too bad Cindy didn't listen to her mother and brother.

well....let me think.....hmmmm....I would bet YES

bolded by me

Ladyhawk
02-05-2009, 08:37 PM
Of course they do...Like I said how else would Baez get the pictures, unless someone gives them to him, Casey is not in the position to get the pictures herself.

IMO Baez has the pictures and has had them for a while now. He had every opportunity to obtain more when he and his wife were at George's birthday party in September. The means to finance Casey's defense has been hashed over with G & C and probably others that we would be surprised to hear contributing ways and means to gather funds. Following the money may be a little hard in this case but you can probably bet that Todd Black has something to do with options behind the scenes and after the fact.

Cury-us Coyote
02-05-2009, 08:37 PM
Have you emailed OCSD or Ms. Drane Burdick, by chance? :sneaky:

No but I hope someone is thinking supply and demand.
jmo

Pruddennce
02-05-2009, 08:38 PM
Oh, I agree with you, Pru. I was just suggesting why some might be sold be C&G, and others might be sold by Casey.

right G.....I was wondering how that all works....

seems like a strange task.....meaning....its their sale.

:)

IMO

best regards,
Pru

IM4Truth
02-05-2009, 08:38 PM
Pray tell, how would Baez get into the A's house to obtain pictures to sell without permission of the home owners?

Didn't he go in the home before the Anthonys returned from their LKL appearance? Mallory had already been in there too while they were gone.

Tracian
02-05-2009, 08:38 PM
Used Zanny's key.


You're right what was I thinking!!!:scared:

Roxxanne
02-05-2009, 08:38 PM
Me too, including the Anthonys. I hope they don't try and influence a jury pool by posting huge photos of the loving mother either.

Thats what I'm afraid they're gonna do (photos of Caylee & Casey). And that will probably cause some there to get rowdy, like the protesters did. I would have no problem with it if it's just about Caylee but I don't think it will be. I'll be shocked if it is anyway.

bchand
02-05-2009, 08:38 PM
Someone earlier (SS?) said they'd reason to go to this church and it is a "mega" church.

Given the Anthony's notoriety, I wondered about the attendance.

Do you think there is a good chance the pastor will encourage his congregation to attend to support the Anthonys and pay respects to Caylee?

I would think, in the spirit of Christianity, the pastor would expect personal feelings to be set aside for this one day. The turnout could be larger than I expect. This is pure speculation on my part. Could be the pastor of this church is seeing $$$ in publicity for his church. Sadly, pastors can be as "worldly" as lawyers. (No offense to our board lawyers! :laugh:)

Too bad Cindy didn't listen to her mother and brother.


Yes I do think he'll encourage his congregation to attend.

Kathi Belich just confirmed that her station will be videotaping it and broadcasting it live (on the internet) which means the Anthonys can't make any money off of it.

Unperson1984
02-05-2009, 08:38 PM
You know, Casey can't get anything, Cindy and George would have to bring them to Baez for sale.

Or Casey gave them to him when she was out on bail.

With your opinion of the Anthonys how can you imagine they wouldn't make the profit themselves rather then give them to Baez?

:rolleyes:

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 08:39 PM
I wonder who the speakers will be?


if cindy was very smart, she would invite Rev. Grund to speak....IMO

Tracian
02-05-2009, 08:39 PM
Didn't he go in the home before the Anthonys returned from their LKL appearance? Mallory had already been in there too while they were gone.



So in that case, the pictures were stolen; and the A's should be livid.

cassidy
02-05-2009, 08:39 PM
Even if that was possible...I wonder how the A's are going to feel about this...

Probably a bit miffed that they were cut out. But then they'll be OK because the money is going to save their little darling from a lifetime in prison.
JMO

bchand
02-05-2009, 08:40 PM
I now realize I had more pics on my photobucket than just Caseys. Sorry to make you wade through those. At least ya'll can see how well Accutane worked on my daughter. :biggrin:


Hey I missed the other photos !

I know that's a danger when posting from your photobucket. I worry about that too.

cassidy
02-05-2009, 08:40 PM
if cindy was very smart, she would invite Rev. Grund to speak....IMO

She isn't. don't look for it to happen.
JMO

Unperson1984
02-05-2009, 08:40 PM
Yes I do think he'll encourage his congregation to attend.

Kathi Belich just confirmed that her station will be videotaping it and broadcasting it live (on the internet) which means the Anthonys can't make any money off of it.

Let's be fair there was no reason to believe they ever planned to make money from the service.

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 08:41 PM
Someone earlier (SS?) said they'd reason to go to this church and it is a "mega" church.

Given the Anthony's notoriety, I wondered about the attendance.

Do you think there is a good chance the pastor will encourage his congregation to attend to support the Anthonys and pay respects to Caylee?

I would think, in the spirit of Christianity, the pastor would expect personal feelings to be set aside for this one day. The turnout could be larger than I expect. This is pure speculation on my part. Could be the pastor of this church is seeing $$$ in publicity for his church. Sadly, pastors can be as "worldly" as lawyers. (No offense to our board lawyers! :laugh:)

Too bad Cindy didn't listen to her mother and brother.I agree that this is a huge PR opportunity for this church. JMO

Heyes
02-05-2009, 08:41 PM
Now, now Heyes. Cindy's concerned about her safety. We must pull out all the stops to keep her safe.

Caylee who?

Silly me, I forgot...poor, poor cindy.... bleh
This whole thing is really ridiculous.
Poor Caylee. Never had a chance with this bunch.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:42 PM
Let's be fair there was no reason to believe they ever planned to make money from the service.

People have preconceived notions though.......:sneaky: And there's no changing them.

Tracian
02-05-2009, 08:42 PM
IMO Baez has the pictures and has had them for a while now. He had every opportunity to obtain more when he and his wife were at George's birthday party in September. The means to finance Casey's defense has been hashed over with G & C and probably others that we would be surprised to hear contributing ways and means to gather funds. Following the money may be a little hard in this case but you can probably bet that Todd Black has something to do with options behind the scenes and after the fact.


So if I understand what you are saying Cindy and George are aware and have no problem with it?

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 08:43 PM
You know, this whole subject is just so upsetting, I hope LE releases everything they have.

There are so many pictures out there already, why would anyone want to pay for any more?

I can't understand why the GP's haven't said word one about these pictures, when they paid for the cameras and videos, I am sure.Well, the Enquirer apparently just paid Kiomarie something for that one picture she had of Caylee... shown in their most recent publication. That was a new picture I had not seen before. JMO

WillowInFlight
02-05-2009, 08:43 PM
if cindy was very smart, she would invite Rev. Grund to speak....IMO

ITA but I don't see that happening. Casey would never allow it.

steffaroob4
02-05-2009, 08:44 PM
No but I hope someone is thinking supply and demand.
jmo

Who do you think will read a statement from casey at the memorial?
This thing is a joke, IMO.

IM4Truth
02-05-2009, 08:44 PM
Let's be fair there was no reason to believe they ever planned to make money from the service.

Couldn't they request "donations" at the memorial? I agree with an earlier poster today who said she couldn't believe God would shut His doors to anyone. This is a public memorial which means anyone should be able to attend, no one should be turned away. It isn't by invitation only. I REALLY have to get back under the covers, my toes are like ice cubes!

Pruddennce
02-05-2009, 08:45 PM
Someone earlier (SS?) said they'd reason to go to this church and it is a "mega" church.

Given the Anthony's notoriety, I wondered about the attendance.

Do you think there is a good chance the pastor will encourage his congregation to attend to support the Anthonys and pay respects to Caylee?

I would think, in the spirit of Christianity, the pastor would expect personal feelings to be set aside for this one day. The turnout could be larger than I expect. This is pure speculation on my part. Could be the pastor of this church is seeing $$$ in publicity for his church. Sadly, pastors can be as "worldly" as lawyers. (No offense to our board lawyers! :laugh:)

Too bad Cindy didn't listen to her mother and brother.

hey pat, he already issued a statement: ALL ABOARD....even a holy man finds a reason to talk to the press:

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m2d5-Public-memorial-service-for-Caylee-Anthony-confirmed

best regards,
Pru

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 08:45 PM
I did say it was a mega church; I have been to a meeting there.

I completely agree, and I anticipate, that the pastor would expect personal feelings to be set aside. No doubt in my mind at all. The church is not looking for publicity or fame....the church is looking to offer compassion and respite.I respectfully disagree with this, Savannah. IMO, this a PR ploy for that church.

Neffy
02-05-2009, 08:45 PM
So if I understand what you are saying Cindy and George are aware and have no problem with it?

They're more than likely scouring their own cache of pictures to be sold & published at a media outlet near you.

marshmallow
02-05-2009, 08:45 PM
Oh, I agree with you, Pru. I was just suggesting why some might be sold be C&G, and others might be sold by Casey.

I also agree.

IM4Truth
02-05-2009, 08:45 PM
Well, the Enquirer apparently just paid Kiomarie something for that one picture she had of Caylee... shown in their most recent publication. That was a new picture I had not seen before. JMO

Did the NE ask Kio anything about Casey's juvie record?

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 08:46 PM
I agree Kindee...no doubt in my mind, somehow the bills are being paid.



NONE of these...players, the Hank Lees especially, work for free. They might say they do...but in the end their "foundations" or whatever sure do see some profit.

yep, yep yep. I'd like to know how the Anthonys are paying their bills. Sorry, I'm cynical that way.

:glare:

nc1948
02-05-2009, 08:47 PM
Me too, including the Anthonys. I hope they don't try and influence a jury pool by posting huge photos of the loving mother either.

I am afraid this memorial for Caylee will be more of a tribute to Casey. I can imagine a montage or video of photos of Casey with Caylee. I think this will become a support Casey event.

cassidy
02-05-2009, 08:48 PM
No, it's not. Casey is on a train to prison. Nothing in the world will derail it.

People may make money off Caylee's murder, the Anthony's will continue to behave badly, the weirdos will crawl out from under their rocks for their 15 minutes of fame. They can do whatever they want, but Casey is going to jail.

I know that. I don't think they Anthony's do. :)

FrankieBones1
02-05-2009, 08:48 PM
I am afraid this memorial for Caylee will be more of a tribute to Casey. I can imagine a montage or video of photos of Casey with Caylee. I think this will become a support Casey event.
That would be such an injustice to Caylee's memory.

steffaroob4
02-05-2009, 08:48 PM
No but I hope someone is thinking supply and demand.
jmo

I wonder how many pictures they got from the last search of the A's home.

marshmallow
02-05-2009, 08:48 PM
Or Casey gave them to him when she was out on bail.

With your opinion of the Anthonys how can you imagine they wouldn't make the profit themselves rather then give them to Baez?

:rolleyes:

they seem to do quite well financially, I'm sure they've got some Caylee money coming in too...

Cury-us Coyote
02-05-2009, 08:49 PM
Who do you think will read a statement from casey at the memorial?
This thing is a joke, IMO.


IIRC, a 2-hr memorial. Hoping GA doesn't attempt singing like at the vigil. Think positive, maybe it will be respectful from start to end.
jmo

jakee
02-05-2009, 08:49 PM
I am embarrassed to even ask this. I think I just heard on Nancy Grace that the Son of Sam Law was overturned?? Did I hear that correctly? I guess I am way behind in the times, so my question is, even if Casey gets convicted, she can still make money off her crime? I am so confused...again. :blushing:

marshmallow
02-05-2009, 08:49 PM
People have preconceived notions though.......:sneaky: And there's no changing them.



no there isn't, is there?

debkay
02-05-2009, 08:50 PM
The only thing I have ever expected them to do was the right thing... and so far they have not done the right thing by the "victim"... Ms. Caylee. You say you think she was the love of their lives, but tell me Fresca... what type of behavior they have exhibited during this whole process that actually shows love for that child? The teeshirts? The flyers? The mobile billboard?

I simply have to disagree due to the fact that the only one they have exhibited consern for that I have seen, is the POS that is in jail!

I do agree however that I would not want to be in their shoes... but I can tell you that if my daughter had done what their daughter has done... I wouldn't be sitting by my daughters side, I wouldn't be defending her and I would be doing everything I could to make sure my granddaughter got the justice she deserved. But that's me...:blink:

I enjoy your thoughts though...:wub:
Post of the day!! I totally agree. Also if they loved Caylee so much they would not have the energy to be so public....they would want to grieve quietly. Anyone who has lost a loved one knows that grieving is hard work. Caylee deserves a dignified service, unfornutely it will probably be another circus when it is time for her funeral. Cindy is nothing buy sleeze IMO.:angry:

MiamiNice1
02-05-2009, 08:50 PM
I don't have heat but this morning I used the space heater and candles and got it up from 60 to 70 degrees. Stayed in my sweats all day. Anyway, I think Lee must have a lot of photos somewhere, maybe on his computer. I don't think they ever confiscated that, did they? I'm pretty certain I remember CSI removing all photos and albums in one of their searches? Casey was planning this all along! She probably thought she would get out and she would get all the money, buy her own little house and party happily ever after. Little did she know.
Lee is a big ? in this, isn't he? Good question about his computer - if it's been confiscated or not.

I don't know if I can agree that Casey was able to long-range plan anything - she strikes me as an extremely lazt type, although very much a cunning liar.

imo

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:51 PM
I respectfully disagree with this, Savannah. IMO, this a PR ploy for that church.


Whoa. Well, you have a different opinion of churches in general, than I do, I would bet.

MiamiNice1
02-05-2009, 08:52 PM
I have a pot of water boiling to put some darn humidity in the house.
LOL! I'm LOVING not having any humidity!

Tracian
02-05-2009, 08:52 PM
I am embarrassed to even ask this. I think I just heard on Nancy Grace that the Son of Sam Law was overturned?? Did I hear that correctly? I guess I am way behind in the times, so my question is, even if Casey gets convicted, she can still make money off her crime? I am so confused...again. :blushing:


I think it was over turned.

Ladyhawk
02-05-2009, 08:52 PM
So if I understand what you are saying Cindy and George are aware and have no problem with it?

JMO but I believe that they are very aware that this is one way to finance Casey's defense and I believe that under the circumstances, they see nothing wrong with it if it accomplishes their ultimate goal. I would be snarky if I added that the rent can be included into this scenario but I don't want to be snarky so act like I didn't say that.

Pruddennce
02-05-2009, 08:53 PM
I agree with you, Pru! They are very limited people. Shortsighted. Self-absorbed. Angry. Doing everything inappropriate in an attempt to salvage some shred of belief in their family. Unlikeable people, through and through. Thank you for understanding that I was not defending them. You said it better than me. imo

Fresca, everyone's opinion is valued, even those whose take on them find them 'under duress'......:D

however, I respectfully disagree with those that feel that way. they are certifiable liars as evidenced by their statements to LE, the FBI, what is contained in the doc dumps (for instance: Cindy claims in an email that Casey never cashed her birthday check from grandmom, who she ultimately defrauded by taking the router #, but there it is in the doc dump: the cancelled check and additional forged checks as well in Cindy's name).

although not evidence of a crime against the state, its indicative of how Cindy lies in her personal life. take that to another level, global, and nothing has changed.

never held accountable for family thefts. what do these people consider serious business which warrants action?

certainly not a death smell car and a child they havent heard from in 30 days...they both returned to work after picking up the car.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 08:53 PM
People have preconceived notions though.......:sneaky: And there's no changing them.


it certainly remains to be seen....they had better have extraordinary security in the parking lot if everyone has to leave their purses and cell phones behind......

WillowInFlight
02-05-2009, 08:53 PM
Yep. You know it. Cindy's in charge. Casey will be featured as prominently as Caylee.

How disgustingly sad is that?:cursing:

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 08:54 PM
ITA but I don't see that happening. Casey would never allow it.


i remember in the jailhouse video....casey was slamming Jesse but seemed touched and appreciative at hearing his parent's remarks about her.....

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 08:55 PM
I am embarrassed to even ask this. I think I just heard on Nancy Grace that the Son of Sam Law was overturned?? Did I hear that correctly? I guess I am way behind in the times, so my question is, even if Casey gets convicted, she can still make money off her crime? I am so confused...again. :blushing:




I think that law is always under fire---but I do think UNTIL Casey is convicted some of those statutes might not kick in.

But I have no idea. :blink:

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 08:55 PM
Must be proud their daughter is finally self sufficient.

Photography was the field of choice.


oh the irony.....

my bold

scillak
02-05-2009, 08:55 PM
JMO but I believe that they are very aware that this is one way to finance Casey's defense and I believe that under the circumstances, they see nothing wrong with it if it accomplishes their ultimate goal. I would be snarky if I added that the rent can be included into this scenario but I don't want to be snarky so act like I didn't say that.

And...it wasn't me who suggested that "Zanny Did It" Bumperstickers might sell.

Tracian
02-05-2009, 08:55 PM
JMO but I believe that they are very aware that this is one way to finance Casey's defense and I believe that under the circumstances, they see nothing wrong with it if it accomplishes their ultimate goal. I would be snarky if I added that the rent can be included into this scenario but I don't want to be snarky so act like I didn't say that.


I respect your opinion, but IMO if it was my granddaughter it would not happen..I find it ghoulish.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:55 PM
they seem to do quite well financially, I'm sure they've got some Caylee money coming in too...

The Anthonys are doing quite well financially? How so?

ConchGirl
02-05-2009, 08:56 PM
Not necessarily.
Are you saying that Casey has them in her "room"?

jakee
02-05-2009, 08:56 PM
I think it was over turned.

Thank you. :smile:

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 08:56 PM
Who do you think will read a statement from casey at the memorial?
This thing is a joke, IMO.


if cindy is very smart, she won't mention casey's name or have any photos of her displayed....imo

Maddie
02-05-2009, 08:58 PM
I think it was over turned.

Really? When did that happen? I was under the impression we still had the Son of Sam Law.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 08:58 PM
Are you saying that Casey has them in her "room"?

No........

cassidy
02-05-2009, 08:58 PM
if cindy is very smart, she won't mention casey's name or have any photos of her displayed....imo

She isn't and there will be.

JMO

ConchGirl
02-05-2009, 08:58 PM
if cindy is very smart, she won't mention casey's name or have any photos of her displayed....imo

Excuse me :seeya: Did you say Cindy and Smart in the same sentence?

WillowInFlight
02-05-2009, 08:59 PM
if cindy is very smart, she won't mention casey's name or have any photos of her displayed....imo

But then it would like she is not supporting Casey, so IMO you can count on plenty of pictures of Casey with Caylee.

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 08:59 PM
Did the NE ask Kio anything about Casey's juvie record?I don't know. I just saw the brief summary and pic on their main page.

Lapis
02-05-2009, 08:59 PM
Really? When did that happen? I was under the impression we still had the Son of Sam Law.

The Son of Sam law as written was overturned. However, some states have passed similar laws that address the same issues. IIRC Florida is one of those states. Since I have no link JMO

jakee
02-05-2009, 09:01 PM
I think that law is always under fire---but I do think UNTIL Casey is convicted some of those statutes might not kick in.

But I have no idea. :blink:

Thanks. I just felt silly that I didn't know that law was over turned or under fire. And here I was telling a friend the other day that because of this law Casey would not be able to profit off her crime. I feel dumb! :mad:

sailordog
02-05-2009, 09:01 PM
I think that law is always under fire---but I do think UNTIL Casey is convicted some of those statutes might not kick in.

But I have no idea. :blink:

Under the new “Son of Sam” forfeiture laws, the victims of crimes receive the profits of any stories sold by the defendant. Sooo - you can see the problem here. She writes a book, her parents get the profit. Win Win.

Tracian
02-05-2009, 09:01 PM
The Anthonys are doing quite well financially? How so?


Yeah, better now then before Caylee disapeared. Better now than they testified to at Casey's first bail hearing...and wow, George is out of work, and Cindy as far as we know has not worked since July.

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 09:02 PM
I am afraid this memorial for Caylee will be more of a tribute to Casey. I can imagine a montage or video of photos of Casey with Caylee. I think this will become a support Casey event.


I hope not....and if it does....I hope everyone gets up and leaves.....

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 09:02 PM
Yep. You know it. Cindy's in charge. Casey will be featured as prominently as Caylee.




Well if she is...that will tell EVERYONE all they need to know.

Should be very interesting.

BANJO GRANNY
02-05-2009, 09:02 PM
I am afraid this memorial for Caylee will be more of a tribute to Casey. I can imagine a montage or video of photos of Casey with Caylee. I think this will become a support Casey event.
I agree 100% it will not be about Caylee at all, it will all be about Casey, if I was there and they started showing pictures of Casey or video's with Casey or reading some letter that Casey wrote I would get up and walk out.:cursing:
IMO when they have her funeral and laid her to rest they will sell rights to the highest bidder to video and take pictures of it and IMO THAT IS SICK AND DISRESPECTFUL TO CAYLEE



:rose:FOR BABY CAYLEE
REST IN PEACE SWEETIE
THERE WILL BE JUSTICE FOR YOU SOON

Neffy
02-05-2009, 09:02 PM
Who do you think will read a statement from casey at the memorial?
This thing is a joke, IMO.

Baez of course. No one knows Casey like he does (his words). Who better then to say a few words on her behalf while standing next to a blown up Casey pic.

ConchGirl
02-05-2009, 09:02 PM
It's dangerous, imo. It will make the unwashed masses in attendance angry ... and Cindy might be hurt. :ohmy:

The A's should just wallpaper their living room with pictures of Casey and hold their service at home, privately.
ITA When my Father passed we had a private service just for us and then did the public one.

bchand
02-05-2009, 09:03 PM
Let's be fair there was no reason to believe they ever planned to make money from the service.

I believe they'd try and make money any way they could.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one Un - even though you're one of my favorite posters.

SavannahStar
02-05-2009, 09:03 PM
Yeah, better now then before Caylee disapeared. Better now than they testified to at Casey's first bail hearing...and wow, George is out of work, and Cindy as far as we know has not worked since July.

Do you have any solid proof as to how they are paying their bills, Tracian? Or is it just guesses? And what IF they accepted payment from People magazine for an interview? Is that so wrong? :confused:

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 09:03 PM
Under the new “Son of Sam” forfeiture laws, the victims of crimes receive the profits of any stories sold by the defendant. Sooo - you can see the problem here. She writes a book, her parents get the profit. Win Win.




That STINKS!!!!!!!!

gag! really....everybody loses. This isn't right!

(but thanks for the info.)

scillak
02-05-2009, 09:04 PM
Under the new “Son of Sam” forfeiture laws, the victims of crimes receive the profits of any stories sold by the defendant. Sooo - you can see the problem here. She writes a book, her parents get the profit. Win Win.

Casey would have to write books, plural - each with a different set of "facts".

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 09:04 PM
The State should sell the 1200 pictures of Casey like the one LE showed George when he got sick. That would help pay part of the huge cost of Casey's lies. Cindy will probably have a yard sale of her empty water bottles later.


the state can't sell them but they can sure release them.....i like that idea:thumbsup:

gaelicpeas
02-05-2009, 09:04 PM
Whoa. Well, you have a different opinion of churches in general, than I do, I would bet.
Could be... especially these "mega" churches. But JMO.

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 09:05 PM
Do you have any solid proof as to how they are paying their bills, Tracian? Or is it just guesses? And what IF they accepted payment from People magazine for an interview? Is that so wrong? :confused:




YES it IS! profit from a baby's MURDER?

um yeah, it's WRONG.

Lapis
02-05-2009, 09:05 PM
With respect to these photos. I think it has been established that the first photos were sold to finance the defense. I think the plan all along was to sell photos as money was needed. I don't think the Anthonys are fans of JB. We can see that by there comments to LE and to Casey herself. Remember also, I think they blame him for not being able to visit with Casey. If the plan was to slowly release the photos I think its more probable that the photos were turned over to JB at the time Casey was out on bail. JMO

Ladyhawk
02-05-2009, 09:05 PM
I respect your opinion, but IMO if it was my granddaughter it would not happen..I find it ghoulish.

I don't think we've seen just how low things can go. Pictures today....who knows what it will be tomorrow.

Remy
02-05-2009, 09:05 PM
Not necessarily.

Then how else is getting them? It's not like Casey has access to her computer accounts and if she does then he is more trouble with corrections.

It's not like she can give them copies of the ones she has of herself and Caylee in her cell, sorry room, because she did not want any.

Maddie
02-05-2009, 09:06 PM
Thanks. I just felt silly that I didn't know that law was over turned or under fire. And here I was telling a friend the other day that because of this law Casey would not be able to profit off her crime. I feel dumb! :mad:


Me, too, jakee. I was still operating under the assumption the law was in play, and questioning how Casey could profit from this. Learn something new everyday, I guess.

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 09:06 PM
Really? When did that happen? I was under the impression we still had the Son of Sam Law.




well hello maddie. Me too. It seems only SANE that a killer shouldn't profit from her crime.

Nutsoid!

happygert
02-05-2009, 09:07 PM
The State should sell the 1200 pictures of Casey like the one LE showed George when he got sick. That would help pay part of the huge cost of Casey's lies. Cindy will probably have a yard sale of her empty water bottles later.

wouldnt surprise me if they tried to sell Caylee's stuffed animals next......put them on ebay...who knows those pic maybe next..this is just sickening..murder your daughter then sell her pictures to pay for your defense...daughter murders her granddaughter grandparents sell videos pictures and interviews so they dont have to work.......down right sickening... there should be a law made that you cant do that....just disgusting... barf

Neffy
02-05-2009, 09:07 PM
People have preconceived notions though.......:sneaky: And there's no changing them.

I read the other day someone thought Caylee was killed in the house by Casey. They thought long and hard about this because that's where the pooh blanket was and the laundrey hamper were.

Talk about preconcieved notions!

Hey wait a minute that was yours! :blush:

ConchGirl
02-05-2009, 09:08 PM
Do you have any solid proof as to how they are paying their bills, Tracian? Or is it just guesses? And what IF they accepted payment from People magazine for an interview? Is that so wrong? :confused:

It's called circumstantial evidence. If you knock on my door in a raincoat and I see water on your coat I can assume it is raining. Do I have to see the rain? CE evidence is better than an eyewitness.

It IS wrong to pay your bills with your dead grandchild to protect her muderer. IMO

jakee
02-05-2009, 09:09 PM
Me, too, jakee. I was still operating under the assumption the law was in play, and questioning how Casey could profit from this. Learn something new everyday, I guess.

I feel better now that I am not the only one who didn't know this. It is nice to learn something new everyday! :biggrin:

Tracian
02-05-2009, 09:09 PM
Do you have any solid proof as to how they are paying their bills, Tracian? Or is it just guesses? And what IF they accepted payment from People magazine for an interview? Is that so wrong? :confused:



I am using logic, SS...

They have not worked and they were struggling before, and testified as to the equity in their home at the bail hearing and how solvent they were.

Sorry, I don't understand selling anything especially when they wanted to 'get Caylee' out there...Do you have any idea how many families of missing children would have sold their soul to the devil for 1/10 of the coverage this case has gotten?

To make any money off pictures, videos, etc...especially while still searching for the child, IMO is blood money plain and simple...now IMO, it is ghoulish, even more so, when said photos will go to attempt to free the very person that murdered this innocent child, with the Grandparent's blessing.

Oh...about People...yeah, I think it would be very wrong, in case I was not clear.

summer4meplz
02-05-2009, 09:09 PM
Excuse me :seeya: Did you say Cindy and Smart in the same sentence?


I had a big IF in there too :biggrin:

Heyes
02-05-2009, 09:10 PM
ITA When my Father passed we had a private service just for us and then did the public one.
At the public service I bet you didn't have someone stand at the door and determine who's allowed in and who's not!
I have never disliked anyone as much as I've come to dislike these anthony creatures. I just am reminded of this disgust on a almost daily basis. What gets me is they think they are pulling the wool over everyones eyes and after georges, (cough), "suicide attempt" (cough, cough), they are expecting thousands of people to come and pay their respects to them. Oh yeah Caylee too. huh almost forgot about Caylee..... sheeeesh. I bet you guys are right. I bet Casey's ugly mug is all over that show, er, event, er, memorial.

happygert
02-05-2009, 09:11 PM
I don't think they are just under duress. They are in denial and are protecting what their opinion of their daughter is--there is no other way to explain the lack of action on the smell from that car or not calling the authorities before 31 days. I cannot believe for a minute they were thinking, "Oh, well. Casey must have done something to Caylee. Too bad. What should we have for dinner tonight?"

They are just not composed of the right stuff. They are defensive. They are damned if the public is going to pass a negative judgment on them. They are angry, terrible, greedy people. They made a mess of their daughter; she was raised by people cut from the same cloth she was. They are making a mess of their granddaughter's memory. But they are not murderers. Their daughter is going to jail for that.

You're right they didn't murder Caylee... And They didnt protect her either......

Tracian
02-05-2009, 09:11 PM
It's called circumstantial evidence. If you knock on my door in a raincoat and I see water on your coat I can assume it is raining. Do I have to see the rain? CE evidence is better than an eyewitness.

It IS wrong to pay your bills with your dead grandchild to protect her muderer. IMO

Yep...and also, when that People interview came out..it was the same time C and G where spinning tales about having the kidnappers 'watched'.

marshmallow
02-05-2009, 09:12 PM
The Anthonys are doing quite well financially? How so?



well, in this house (pretty boringly average) if neither the man or I were working and still had a roof over our heads, food on the table, electricity, water, gas in the veehickles, the veehickles themselves, and medical care we'd sure as heck be doing quite well financially.

nc1948
02-05-2009, 09:13 PM
That would be such an injustice to Caylee's memory.

I so agree, but just do not see the Anthonys doing anything to honor Caylee in a dignified manner. I so hope I am wrong. I just wish no one would show up. Maybe I am wierd, but I just don't see going to a memorial of someone I have never met or seen. So far I have only attended memorials and funerals of friends and family and have never attended one for a stranger. ( and don't intend to start)

cassidy
02-05-2009, 09:13 PM
You're right they didn't murder Caylee... And They didnt protect her either......


And they still aren't protecting her now.

JMO

kindeekat
02-05-2009, 09:13 PM
[QUOTE=ConchGirl;12746007

It IS wrong to pay your bills with your dead grandchild to protect her muderer. IMO[/QUOTE]




THANk you.

bchand
02-05-2009, 09:14 PM
With respect to these photos. I think it has been established that the first photos were sold to finance the defense. I think the plan all along was to sell photos as money was needed. I don't think the Anthonys are fans of JB. We can see that by there comments to LE and to Casey herself. Remember also, I think they blame him for not being able to visit with Casey. If the plan was to slowly release the photos I think its more probable that the photos were turned over to JB at the time Casey was out on bail. JMO


And since there are so many photos out there now, do you think the value of any more is depreciated? I can't see it going on and on.

ConchGirl
02-05-2009, 09:14 PM
At the public service I bet you didn't have someone stand at the door and determine who's allowed in and who's not!
I have never disliked anyone as much as I've come to dislike these anthony creatures. I just am reminded of this disgust on a almost daily basis. What gets me is they think they are pulling the wool over everyones eyes and after georges, (cough), "suicide attempt" (cough, cough), they are expecting thousands of people to come and pay their respects to them. Oh yeah Caylee too. huh almost forgot about Caylee..... sheeeesh. I bet you guys are right. I bet Casey's ugly mug is all over that show, er, event, er, memorial.

You are correct. In my more than a half a century in this world I have never heard of a public funeral with a NOT INVITED list.

trich
02-05-2009, 09:15 PM
Florida's current Son of Sam law allows the state to place a lien against the earnings convicted felons receive for recounting their crimes. The federal statute is similar.



http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/25/Tampabay/New_book_by_Al_Arian_.shtml

cassidy
02-05-2009, 09:16 PM
And since there are so many photos out there now, do you think the value of any more is depreciated? I can't see it going on and on.

I think there will be a "market" for the pictures as long as the ratings keep up and the papers and magazines get sold. Who knows how long that will keep up?
JMO

Neffy
02-05-2009, 09:16 PM
I am using logic, SS...

They have not worked and they were struggling before, and testified as to the equity in their home at the bail hearing and how solvent they were.

Sorry, I don't understand selling anything especially when they wanted to 'get Caylee' out there...Do you have any idea how many families of missing children would have sold their soul to the devil for 1/10 of the coverage this case has gotten?

To make any money off pictures, videos, etc...especially while still searching for the child, IMO is blood money plain and simple...now IMO, it is ghoulish, even more so, when said photos will go to attempt to free the very person that murdered this innocent child, with the Grandparent's blessing.

Oh...about People...yeah, I think it would be very wrong, in case I was not clear.


Tim Miller is under spending everything looking for Caylee. They stole that also IMO. How much did has it cost the City of Orlando?

Maddie
02-05-2009, 09:16 PM
I am using logic, SS...

They have not worked and they were struggling before, and testified as to the equity in their home at the bail hearing and how solvent they were.

Sorry, I don't understand selling anything especially when they wanted to 'get Caylee' out there...Do you have any idea how many families of missing children would have sold their soul to the devil for 1/10 of the coverage this case has gotten?

To make any money off pictures, videos, etc...especially while still searching for the child, IMO is blood money plain and simple...now IMO, it is ghoulish, even more so, when said photos will go to attempt to free the very person that murdered this innocent child, with the Grandparent's blessing.

Oh...about People...yeah, I think it would be very wrong, in case I was not clear.


I agree with you, Tracian! A lot of wrongs here!