View Full Version : THURSDAY January 29 Part II
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 05:13 PM
New thread.
bchand
01-29-2009, 05:16 PM
Present !! Thanks Lavenia :thumbup:
WhiteShark
01-29-2009, 05:17 PM
Bolding is mine.....
I take offense to that and that is the exact reason I don't post here. I am educated, yet MANY have "ignorance" to this forensics and the like and btw it doesn't have to confuse "some folks" only "one" and that is my fear. IMO IMO
I'm off thank you for those of you who answered without having to get a slam in. I really appreciate all the people here who can share their different views. imo
I think it is an important point to make. Especially since surely the defense will go down the road paved by science regarding pig decomp is as close to human decomp as one can get. So they get one juror to buy the empty ham container as the source of the horrible smell, and not a baby girl and casey walks. However, the preservatives, additives ie: nitrites etc. would prevent the normal pig decomp.
Actually, even as a nurse, I didn't think about it until I read that post. I was already thinking of how this would really muddy the waters for the SA's case.
IMO, I didn't take it as an insult. Sorry.:smile:
really3997
01-29-2009, 05:20 PM
Fyi apparently Fox news has an exclusive with Mark Furhman he was at the crime scene. Is it really exclusive if they are on the same network...
Mandymax
01-29-2009, 05:20 PM
I was thinking about what it must be like to be a member of that family - ANY member, doesn't matter which one - and think back to what things were like just one year ago at this time. How normal everything was. And now here you are. Granddaughter murdered, daughter in jail for allegedly killing her and lying about it, father hospitalized for a suicide attempt . . . my God. Your entire life blown to smithereens with no warning. I can't even fathom that.
KKKKKKatie
01-29-2009, 05:21 PM
I was thinking about what it must be like to be a member of that family - ANY member, doesn't matter which one - and think back to what things were like just one year ago at this time. How normal everything was. And now here you are. Granddaughter murdered, daughter in jail for allegedly killing her and lying about it, father hospitalized for a suicide attempt . . . my God. Your entire life blown to smithereens with no warning. I can't even fathom that.
I can't either Mandy. It is just amazing what Casey has done to this entire family IMO
Cury-us Coyote
01-29-2009, 05:22 PM
Anthony Hearing To Tackle Several Issues
Meanwhile, Brad Conway, the attorney for Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, said George Anthony could possibly be released from a hospital later Thursday.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18595499/detail.html
WESH2 Live @ 4
http://www.wesh.com/video/14515757/index.html
martha
01-29-2009, 05:22 PM
I don;t see how anyone but casey could have done this to caylee. I sure hope they don;t do something to get her off if she did do this. Everything points to casey so until I hear something elce that will change my mind I still think casey did it. I don;t understand it or why she did it or how she could have done it but maybe at trial I will understand more about how a mother can do something like this and hurt her family the way casey has hurt everyone. Then I may never understand it.I don;t think in my mind I can ever understand it.God gives us children to make our lives better. They or a gift from God.jmho
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 05:23 PM
I was thinking about what it must be like to be a member of that family - ANY member, doesn't matter which one - and think back to what things were like just one year ago at this time. How normal everything was. And now here you are. Granddaughter murdered, daughter in jail for allegedly killing her and lying about it, father hospitalized for a suicide attempt . . . my God. Your entire life blown to smithereens with no warning. I can't even fathom that.
I agree. This is going to sound really bad, but I understand if the A's would want to commit suicide. I would have a very,very difficult time seeing what there is to live for if I was in their position. The only answer I could come up with is they have another child and parents, siblings etc. that suicide would not be fair to.
I'm curious to see if Conway comes out with a statement tonight regarding George's: a) transfer, or b) release from the hospital. His medical advisors probably know by now, so I would assume George, Cindy and Conway do as well.
I also wonder if rage towards Casey has been building in Cindy since Caylee's remains were found. The duct tape and heart sticker information must have been a stunning blow to both Cindy and George, regardless of how they may have felt and covered up for Casey prior to the discovery. I wonder if Cindy is one of those, who once is "done" with someone, is DONE.
I'm not sure if Cindy will show or not. If she doesn't, I would take that to mean the games are over regarding how she feels about what happened to Caylee.
IM4Truth
01-29-2009, 05:25 PM
Fyi apparently Fox news has an exclusive with Mark Furhman he was at the crime scene. Is it really exclusive if they are on the same network...
Do you mean something is coming up in a few minutes on the FOX News Channel?
5boxersmom
01-29-2009, 05:26 PM
Fyi apparently Fox news has an exclusive with Mark Furhman he was at the crime scene. Is it really exclusive if they are on the same network...
I don't understand what MF was saying about Amscot last night on Greta. Saying they didn't know for sure if Tone picked her up. It was in Tone's statement in the docs. Why did he not know this?
jmo
summer4meplz
01-29-2009, 05:27 PM
I hope the new thread will be better for me......trying to not quote anyone...
my vote for tomorrow....cindy and casey will BOTH be there......
KKKKKKatie
01-29-2009, 05:27 PM
I'm curious to see if Conway comes out with a statement tonight regarding George's: a) transfer, or b) release from the hospital. His medical advisors probably know by now, so I would assume George, Cindy and Conway do as well.
I also wonder if rage towards Casey has been building in Cindy since Caylee's remains were found. The duct tape and heart sticker information must have been a stunning blow to both Cindy and George, regardless of how they may have felt and covered up for Casey prior to the discovery. I wonder if Cindy is one of those, who once is "done" with someone, is DONE.
I'm not sure if Cindy will show or not. If she doesn't, I would take that to mean the games are over regarding how she feels about what happened to Caylee.
I would imagine that JB will be telling her to go. You know....show support for her innocence and all that :rolleyes:
Cury-us Coyote
01-29-2009, 05:28 PM
Fyi apparently Fox news has an exclusive with Mark Furhman he was at the crime scene. Is it really exclusive if they are on the same network...
Which reminds me how did Geraldo get the video of the PI search again? TIA
really3997
01-29-2009, 05:28 PM
Anthony Hearing To Tackle Several Issues
Meanwhile, Brad Conway, the attorney for Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, said George Anthony could possibly be released from a hospital later Thursday.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18595499/detail.html
WESH2 Live @ 4
http://www.wesh.com/video/14515757/index.html
Ok I am confused I thought the motions need to be directed to the people in question. So does that mean Equasearch will be there and the owner of the property of the crime scene. Isn't that what the judge has stated in the past
IM4Truth
01-29-2009, 05:30 PM
I was thinking about what it must be like to be a member of that family - ANY member, doesn't matter which one - and think back to what things were like just one year ago at this time. How normal everything was. And now here you are. Granddaughter murdered, daughter in jail for allegedly killing her and lying about it, father hospitalized for a suicide attempt . . . my God. Your entire life blown to smithereens with no warning. I can't even fathom that.
I don't think anything has been very normal in that family in the last few years that we know about. Casey getting pg, everyone denying it, George leaving Cindy & filing for divorce, domestic calls to the home from the sheriff's office, Casey lying about having a job and was probably stealing from everyone then. Normal at this time last year? I highly doubt it. In fact I think in the beginning they even said Lee had been estranged from the family for about a year until around the time of Cindy's birthday.
really3997
01-29-2009, 05:30 PM
Do you mean something is coming up in a few minutes on the FOX News Channel?
5:00 on local fox news channel it was promo'd
IM4Truth
01-29-2009, 05:31 PM
I'm curious to see if Conway comes out with a statement tonight regarding George's: a) transfer, or b) release from the hospital. His medical advisors probably know by now, so I would assume George, Cindy and Conway do as well.
I also wonder if rage towards Casey has been building in Cindy since Caylee's remains were found. The duct tape and heart sticker information must have been a stunning blow to both Cindy and George, regardless of how they may have felt and covered up for Casey prior to the discovery. I wonder if Cindy is one of those, who once is "done" with someone, is DONE.
I'm not sure if Cindy will show or not. If she doesn't, I would take that to mean the games are over regarding how she feels about what happened to Caylee.
I wonder some of the same things, but I'm thinking George & Cindy are still trying to figure out how someone else, ANYone else could have done this because they don't want to believe their daughter did it.
IM4Truth
01-29-2009, 05:33 PM
I hope the new thread will be better for me......trying to not quote anyone...
my vote for tomorrow....cindy and casey will BOTH be there......
Trying not to quote? Don't understand, but I think they will both be there too.
Cury-us Coyote
01-29-2009, 05:33 PM
Ok I am confused I thought the motions need to be directed to the people in question. So does that mean Equasearch will be there and the owner of the property of the crime scene. Isn't that what the judge has stated in the past
FWIW, I expected a reply/counter-motion from Nejame but have not seen one.
jmo
ETA - the original motion was amended to make it more specific.
I don;t see how anyone but casey could have done this to caylee. I sure hope they don;t do something to get her off if she did do this. Everything points to casey so until I hear something elce that will change my mind I still think casey did it. I don;t understand it or why she did it or how she could have done it but maybe at trial I will understand more about how a mother can do something like this and hurt her family the way casey has hurt everyone. Then I may never understand it.I don;t think in my mind I can ever understand it.God gives us children to make our lives better. They or a gift from God.jmho
Nice to see you Martha. It's obvious it was Casey no matter what Baez tries to spin and I hope she spends the rest of her pathetic life in prison.
I don't think we'll learn why she did it though. She will never talk imo.
really3997
01-29-2009, 05:35 PM
FWIW, I expected a reply/counter-motion from Nejame but have not seen one.
jmo
which tells me that the Judge is going to tell Beaz again that he has to notify to correct party as he did in the past.
IM4Truth
01-29-2009, 05:36 PM
I have a hard time believing Lee and his "being estranged" from the family. He lived within BLOCKS of them... His mother doesnt seem like the type to allow him to slip off into his own life. I can imagine her just popping in to say "hi" on a weekly basis...or to try and drag him into whatever family drama was brewing down on hopespring drive...
Does anyone remember where we heard that part about Lee being estranged from the family for a year?
bchand
01-29-2009, 05:37 PM
Ok I am confused I thought the motions need to be directed to the people in question. So does that mean Equasearch will be there and the owner of the property of the crime scene. Isn't that what the judge has stated in the past
Someone did say earlier that Tim will be there. (Maybe NeJame too?)
WhiteShark
01-29-2009, 05:39 PM
That's not my job. I believe the person that is posting as a fact that she has to be in court has that burden. sorry.
I brought this over because earlier this afternoon I posted the law so this disagreement could be ended. It is section 3.180, page 53 -54 in The Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure. Now in the judges order we see it is the rule he quotes in forcing her to attend all criminal case hearings except scheduling or status checks. I know you don't believe this, but it is the law in Florida.
The law:
http://tinyurl.com/c45fww
The order from the judge:
http://www.wftv.com/news/18550635/detail.html
IM4Truth
01-29-2009, 05:42 PM
Someone did say earlier that Tim will be there. (Maybe NeJame too?)
I brought the laptop home so I can work while I watch it!!
really3997
01-29-2009, 05:44 PM
But doesnt the Judge get it by now?? BOZO_BAEZ wants everyone else to do his work for him...he has a "arrogance" about him. Like he is entitled to something no one else is...
Hmmmm...that reminds me of someone else involved int his case...?? Weird.
Well ,maybe Casey can give the judge some assistance as she does Jose...I mean she is a smart girl
bchand
01-29-2009, 05:44 PM
I brought the laptop home so I can work while I watch it!!
Lucky you !! IM4Truth. I always wished I could work from home.
www.wesh.com
and
www.wftv.com
have both said they will carry it live.
really3997
01-29-2009, 05:46 PM
I brought the laptop home so I can work while I watch it!!
Well I am still unemployed so I'm good,..
Heyes
01-29-2009, 05:46 PM
respectfully snipped for space
The law:
http://tinyurl.com/c45fww
The order from the judge:
http://www.wftv.com/news/18550635/detail.html
Thanks WhiteShark.
Only question I have is...if she refuses, do they sanction biaz ? Do they drag her into court like last time? Both? What exactly is the punishment? Sorry if this has been answered already. Just got back on the board.
Hoping upon hope biaz gets dinged as well as "his girl". That'll teach um. lol
IM4Truth
01-29-2009, 05:46 PM
I brought this over because earlier this afternoon I posted the law so this disagreement could be ended. It is section 3.180, page 53 -54 in The Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure. Now in the judges order we see it is the rule he quotes in forcing her to attend all criminal case hearings except scheduling or status checks. I know you don't believe this, but it is the law in Florida.
The law:
http://tinyurl.com/c45fww
The order from the judge:
http://www.wftv.com/news/18550635/detail.html
I just hope the judge gets her name on the list to be transported like Orange County Corrections has requested!! (or sheriff or whomever has to complete the list)
IM4Truth
01-29-2009, 05:48 PM
Lucky you !! IM4Truth. I always wished I could work from home.
www.wesh.com
and
www.wftv.com
have both said they will carry it live.
I'm hoping TruTV covers it as they have in the past. If not, I'll stream!
Spokespeople for Casey Anthony's defense attorney: We don't use our real names
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-false-names-012908,0,5428119.story
Sorry if this was already posted. This case justs gets weirder and weirder. IMO.
Heyes
01-29-2009, 05:51 PM
Looks like HLN is doing something on casey at the top of the hour.
Wonder if there is anything new?
IM4Truth
01-29-2009, 05:52 PM
Spokespeople for Casey Anthony's defense attorney: We don't use our real names
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-false-names-012908,0,5428119.story
Sorry if this was already posted. This case justs gets weirder and weirder. IMO.
Could Todd Black really be Peter Tillman? Weird just isn't enough to describe it.
IM4Truth
01-29-2009, 05:53 PM
Looks like HLN is doing something on casey at the top of the hour.
Wonder if there is anything new?
Shoot, looks like I will be flippin' 'tween FOX & HLN! Though I do like Mike Galanos!
WillowInFlight
01-29-2009, 05:53 PM
Spokespeople for Casey Anthony's defense attorney: We don't use our real names
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-false-names-012908,0,5428119.story
Sorry if this was already posted. This case justs gets weirder and weirder. IMO.
Remember that came out awhile ago about Todd Black using an alias. though I would love to know the reason behind it.
really3997
01-29-2009, 05:54 PM
Spokespeople for Casey Anthony's defense attorney: We don't use our real names
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-false-names-012908,0,5428119.story
Sorry if this was already posted. This case justs gets weirder and weirder. IMO.
HMMMM strange
IM4Truth
01-29-2009, 05:55 PM
Remember that came out awhile ago about Todd Black using an alias. though I would love to know the reason behind it.
Maybe the real reason is to hide behind the nonsense!
KKKKKKatie
01-29-2009, 05:55 PM
Spokespeople for Casey Anthony's defense attorney: We don't use our real names
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-false-names-012908,0,5428119.story
Sorry if this was already posted. This case justs gets weirder and weirder. IMO.
Oh for crying out loud!!! :rolleyes:
what do you want to bet that Todd is really JB :rolleyes:
Thanks, AMS.
I wonder if any news organizations are trying to find a paper trail on this comany. How strange.
Remember that came out awhile ago about Todd Black using an alias. though I would love to know the reason behind it.
Thanks. I must have missed it when it first came out. I can't figure out why he needs an alias.
IMO
Heyes
01-29-2009, 05:56 PM
Spokespeople for Casey Anthony's defense attorney: We don't use our real names
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-false-names-012908,0,5428119.story
Sorry if this was already posted. This case justs gets weirder and weirder. IMO.
"We don't use our real names"
lol
or our real E-mail accounts, faxes or phones lol lol lol
cuz he's sceeeeeered! Bwa ha ha ha ha ha
kate482000
01-29-2009, 05:56 PM
Shoot, looks like I will be flippin' 'tween FOX & HLN! Though I do like Mike Galanos!
I like Mike too. He's a good reporter, asks good questions, and lets his guests speak....He's doing a good job on the Casey investigation...
jammies
01-29-2009, 05:57 PM
Spokespeople for Casey Anthony's defense attorney: We don't use our real names
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-false-names-012908,0,5428119.story
Sorry if this was already posted. This case justs gets weirder and weirder. IMO.
These fllippin' people are are NUTS.
Oh for crying out loud!!! :rolleyes:
what do you want to bet that Todd is really JB :rolleyes:
Or he will turn out to be some link in Lennie's daisy chain. :wink:
IMO
really3997
01-29-2009, 05:58 PM
Thanks, AMS.
I wonder if any news organizations are trying to find a paper trail on this comany. How strange.
Well after what they said about Channel 9 my bet is on Kathy Belich to find out the truth
KKKKKKatie
01-29-2009, 05:59 PM
Or he will turn out to be some link in Lennie's daisy chain. :wink:
IMO
:laugh::laugh:
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 05:59 PM
Spokespeople for Casey Anthony's defense attorney: We don't use our real names
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-false-names-012908,0,5428119.story
Sorry if this was already posted. This case justs gets weirder and weirder. IMO.
No wonder we couldn't find anything on him. :rolleyes: CuhRazyy!
Peter
01-29-2009, 05:59 PM
Casey will be in court Friday.
http://www.cfnews13.com/Default.aspx
?noanswer
01-29-2009, 05:59 PM
Fyi apparently Fox news has an exclusive with Mark Furhman he was at the crime scene. Is it really exclusive if they are on the same network...
Hope it is better than his appearance on GVS last night. Haven't you been close to the crime scene? I rather they interview you!!!! JMO
jammies
01-29-2009, 05:59 PM
Well after what they said about Channel 9 my bet is on Kathy Belich to find out the truth
Hopefully by airtime tonight. Go Kathy. Not much gets by her.
Cury-us Coyote
01-29-2009, 06:00 PM
Fox 35 Live @ 5
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live5pm6pm.html
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 06:00 PM
Hopefully by airtime tonight. Go Kathy. Not much gets by her.
I wonder why Kathy hasn't spilled the beans on what those emails said that got "hacked" from Cindy's computer.
If Cindy does come tomorrow, will they have to bring her through a back door? I could just imagine the media frenzy and all of the extra LE officers on hand
Dawnnb
01-29-2009, 06:01 PM
Long time lurker here! I'm wondering if there are any pictures of "Todd Black" I have always wondered if it was Baez. Back to lurking. TIA
kOOkie1
01-29-2009, 06:01 PM
Casey will be in court Friday.
http://www.cfnews13.com/Default.aspx
Thats good to know! I like the sound of her chains clanging:wink:
jammies
01-29-2009, 06:02 PM
I wonder why Kathy hasn't spilled the beans on what those emails said that got "hacked" from Cindy's computer.
LE asked her not to? Can't WAIT till she's allowed to SPILL!
Long time lurker here! I'm wondering if there are any pictures of "Todd Black" I have always wondered if it was Baez. Back to lurking. TIA
Hi and welcome! IIRC no one could find any info on this guy. I guess now we know why. It does sound like something Baez would do IMO.
"We don't use our real names"
lol
or our real E-mail accounts, faxes or phones lol lol lol
cuz he's sceeeeeered! Bwa ha ha ha ha ha
And the Fla Bar Assn accepted at face value what the atty for Baez said about Black. :confused: This whole thing stinks to high heaven and I surely hope that some good investigative reporter get to the bottom of this PR scam outfit.
Ladyhawk
01-29-2009, 06:06 PM
I hope the new thread will be better for me......trying to not quote anyone...
my vote for tomorrow....cindy and casey will BOTH be there......
I just can't see Cindy staying away. I think she'll be there just to see Casey, even if it's at somewhat of a distance, and maybe even get to say a few words to her before she's taken out of the courtroom at the end.
What really caught my eye was this quote:
"In general we can tell you that it's been standard procedure for many years to have our company's story reps utilize abbreviated names for security purposes, most especially now with the Casey Anthony Case that is overrun with hostile attitudes and serious threats that have been generated by negative media coverage,"...
Baez and Co are acting like this is the only high-profile case ever to be heard in the history of this country.
Hostile attitudes and serious threats that have been generated by negative media coverage? Do they honestly expect Casey to get a pat on the head from said media because she neglected to report Caylee "missing" for 31 days?
I'm suspicious of this Todd Black and his origins.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-false-names-012908,0,5428119.story
I wonder why Kathy hasn't spilled the beans on what those emails said that got "hacked" from Cindy's computer.
I'm thinking that LE has asked her to keep it confidential.
?noanswer
01-29-2009, 06:08 PM
Could Todd Black really be Peter Tillman? Weird just isn't enough to describe it.
Probably JB is both. He is incognito. There has been something goofy about this TB from the get go. The information that a family from Connecticut is paying for TB to do all this just doesn't seem right. JMO
Peter
01-29-2009, 06:09 PM
Thats good to know! I like the sound of her chains clanging:wink:
Oh they'll be clanging at 830AM!
Biaz doesnt want Casey there because of all the comments on her demeaner, etc.. Is someone reading the boards? Me thinks so.
forensicfan
01-29-2009, 06:09 PM
Last night on NG there was a caption at the bottom of the screen that mentioned a stainless steel knife being found with the body. Has anybody heard anything on that? I thought it was odd that it was not discussed on the show - just a caption on the bottom. I would think that if they had found one with the body that it would have been mentioned a long time ago.
SwFlorida
01-29-2009, 06:11 PM
Thats good to know! I like the sound of her chains clanging:wink:
Bling baby Bling :rolleyes:
Heyes
01-29-2009, 06:12 PM
What really caught my eye was this quote:
"In general we can tell you that it's been standard procedure for many years to have our company's story reps utilize abbreviated names for security purposes, most especially now with the Casey Anthony Case that is overrun with hostile attitudes and serious threats that have been generated by negative media coverage,"...
Baez and Co are acting like this is the only high-profile case ever to be heard in the history of this country.
Hostile attitudes and serious threats that have been generated by negative media coverage? Do they honestly expect Casey to get a pat on the head from said media because she neglected to report Caylee "missing" for 31 days?
I'm suspicious of this Todd Black and his origins.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-false-names-012908,0,5428119.story
The only thing that generated hostile attitudes and (cough) serious threats, is the fact that the media gave casey, george, lee and cindy the ability to spew their BS into the camera lens. The blame lies solely with the anthonys.
imo
Peter
01-29-2009, 06:13 PM
Last night on NG there was a caption at the bottom of the screen that mentioned a stainless steel knife being found with the body. Has anybody heard anything on that? I thought it was odd that it was not discussed on the show - just a caption on the bottom. I would think that if they had found one with the body that it would have been mentioned a long time ago.
I saw that too. Nobody talked about it, your right. I was waiting to see if the next caption was that it matched the silverware at the home? but no other info.
I hope Casey's finger prints are on it....or the tape for that matter.
marshmallow
01-29-2009, 06:17 PM
Spokespeople for Casey Anthony's defense attorney: We don't use our real names
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-casey-anthony-false-names-012908,0,5428119.story
Sorry if this was already posted. This case justs gets weirder and weirder. IMO.
Dear lord, just when I think this won't get any stranger..... *poof* the mysterious Mr Black adds to the confusion..
whitecats2
01-29-2009, 06:17 PM
What did FOX news and HLN have to say about this case? Has anyone read the People magazine article yet?
Heyes
01-29-2009, 06:19 PM
Had a weird thought... does anyone think that the sudden announcement by the anthonys attorney that the anthony's are possibly, maybe rethinking their position on casey is to make it a tad more welcoming for cindy to show up tomorrow? I don't know just a thought.
chrissybot
01-29-2009, 06:20 PM
I just can't see Cindy staying away. I think she'll be there just to see Casey, even if it's at somewhat of a distance, and maybe even get to say a few words to her before she's taken out of the courtroom at the end.
Cantcha just see her there on the edge of her seat raising & waving her hand....:lol:
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 06:21 PM
George Anthony to remain hospitalized.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=74640&cat=14
?noanswer
01-29-2009, 06:21 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0129/18597428.pdf
Nejames reply to JB re JB's motion for TES' record. JMO
WhiteShark
01-29-2009, 06:22 PM
Thanks WhiteShark.
Only question I have is...if she refuses, do they sanction biaz ? Do they drag her into court like last time? Both? What exactly is the punishment? Sorry if this has been answered already. Just got back on the board.
Hoping upon hope biaz gets dinged as well as "his girl". That'll teach um. lol
I doubt baez would get dinged, unless he interfered with transport of casey or something like that.
If she isn't in line & ready to go to the courthouse in the am, the guards will get her ready or take her however she is (like last time) then transport her to the courthouse. She doesn't have any option to not show, especially with the amount of prior notice the judge has given the jail and baez.
Basically, I think baez caused this problem by running his mouth in court, telling the judge he relayed to casey what he felt she needed to know. IMO,if he had not said that, the judge may have let her slide on some hearings. But now he has to be careful casey has knowledge of everything happening and is agreeing with how she is being represented.
Also, IMO, there is a chance the DP could be put back on the table which only kicks each and every hearing/motion up a few notches.
happygert
01-29-2009, 06:23 PM
Oh they'll be clanging at 830AM!
Biaz doesnt want Casey there because of all the comments on her demeaner, etc.. Is someone reading the boards? Me thinks so.
Me thinks so tooooo....I hope someone will post a live feed here in morning....I dont live in FL and if tru tv does air it I'll miss some of it cause they dont go on air here until 8 my time (9 fla time)...LOL dont want to miss a sec.........
Pruddennce
01-29-2009, 06:23 PM
"We don't use our real names"
lol
or our real E-mail accounts, faxes or phones lol lol lol
cuz he's sceeeeeered! Bwa ha ha ha ha ha
whats an abbreviated name?
are they afraid to use the term ALIAS?
IMO
best regards,
Pru
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 06:24 PM
Hi kids :smile:
I'm surprised Baez can speak around the foot in his mouth. Has the man done a thing to date that hasn't swung right back around and bit him in the caboose?
He files a motion to get the state's attorneys thrown off the case because they expressed concern about ethics and such with regard to correspondence generated by Baez spokesman Todd "Not My Real Name" Black.
So not only do we have Baez denying involvement with Black, we've got Black saying his name isn't even Todd Black.
Does Jose get how enormously ridiculous all this makes him look? He's so concerned that he's being persecuted and Casey's being tried and fried in the media, yet the man hasn't done one thing yet that I can recall that hasn't backfired and added to his ginormous credibility issue.
Hey ya kid!:seeya: Ya' gotta admit, fighting that gag order worked out well for him. :lol:
I just listened to the video of LE interview with Anthony Laz. .....I am trying to find out about Casey on the 15 and the 16th of June. I get to June 13th Friday , Casey went back to his place and she left. ..... that night after fusion no baby and Casey stayed over. .... then it jumps to talk concernng june 22 to 28 th. when Casy ran out of gas. )june 28 th) he picks her up , she had food and clothes from her moms' house etc. I cannot find the questioning of anthony regarding the 15 and 16th of June, two vital days. . did Casey stay over that Sunday night, when did you last see Casey or Caylee. I tried Greta's interview with Chase he says Casey was there sunday night (fathers day night and stayed over, no Caylee, Caylee never ever stayed over. "Did you see Casey Monday morning , he (chase) says I cannot remember. I am going baffy . I am so inept. gogo
Heyes
01-29-2009, 06:25 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0129/18597428.pdf
Nejames reply to JB re JB's motion for TES' record. JMO
Oh SNAP!
Well done Najames!~
kOOkie1
01-29-2009, 06:26 PM
Had a weird thought... does anyone think that the sudden announcement by the anthonys attorney that the anthony's are possibly, maybe rethinking their position on casey is to make it a tad more welcoming for cindy to show up tomorrow? I don't know just a thought.
I think thats a good possibility..George in the Hosp etc. I hope Cindy continues to just let Conway talk for the family:blink:
cassidy
01-29-2009, 06:26 PM
These fllippin' people are are NUTS.
You took the words right out of me keyboard!
Peter
01-29-2009, 06:28 PM
Me thinks so tooooo....I hope someone will post a live feed here in morning....I dont live in FL and if tru tv does air it I'll miss some of it cause they dont go on air here until 8 my time (9 fla time)...LOL dont want to miss a sec.........
Oh there's plenty of live feed link masters that post here....I will be at work (the place I hate to be at because I cant stay right here where I want to be.)
Heyes
01-29-2009, 06:29 PM
I doubt baez would get dinged, unless he interfered with transport of casey or something like that.
If she isn't in line & ready to go to the courthouse in the am, the guards will get her ready or take her however she is (like last time) then transport her to the courthouse. She doesn't have any option to not show, especially with the amount of prior notice the judge has given the jail and baez.
Basically, I think baez caused this problem by running his mouth in court, telling the judge he relayed to casey what he felt she needed to know. IMO,if he had not said that, the judge may have let her slide on some hearings. But now he has to be careful casey has knowledge of everything happening and is agreeing with how she is being represented.
Also, IMO, there is a chance the DP could be put back on the table which only kicks each and every hearing/motion up a few notches.
Well I am bummed that biaz's only punishment will be embarrassment and perhaps a bit of distance from "his girl".
Soooo even if casey sits on her bunk with her arms crossed and says Make Me!, they will drag her bum into court? That would be fantastic. lol
really3997
01-29-2009, 06:29 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0129/18597428.pdf
Nejames reply to JB re JB's motion for TES' record. JMO
Well that makes perfect sense to me...
Peter
01-29-2009, 06:30 PM
If the Judge Orders and Casey refuses she gets cuffed, shackled and carried in.
That would be a sight to see, Get the duct tape Lavena, I got stickers.
Cury-us Coyote
01-29-2009, 06:30 PM
Probably JB is both. He is incognito. There has been something goofy about this TB from the get go. The information that a family from Connecticut is paying for TB to do all this just doesn't seem right. JMO
What is the alleged commonality within/between Rod Blagojevich, Drew Peterson, and Casey Anthony?
5boxersmom
01-29-2009, 06:30 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0129/18597428.pdf
Nejames reply to JB re JB's motion for TES' record. JMO
Says that Baez and Casey failed to pick up the CD with the sightings of Caylee on them. Didn't Baez file a motion just for that right before Caylee was found?
Said TES can't afford for them to do this to them. :wink:
Nejame. :thumbsup:
?noanswer
01-29-2009, 06:32 PM
What is the alleged commonality within/between Rod Blagojevich, Drew Peterson, and Casey Anthony?
The same PR firm is representing the first two. I don't know who is representing KC. That Co. is afraid to let anyone know who they are!!! JMO
WhiteShark
01-29-2009, 06:32 PM
Last night on NG there was a caption at the bottom of the screen that mentioned a stainless steel knife being found with the body. Has anybody heard anything on that? I thought it was odd that it was not discussed on the show - just a caption on the bottom. I would think that if they had found one with the body that it would have been mentioned a long time ago.
I do remember hearing about the knife with the last doc dump I think. I will try to find it. But I wondered as well, why they were running on the headline thing and never spoke about it. Maybe they are waiting for more info? I think all that has been released about it, is it's presence. I also wonder if it was one of the thing linking the house to the crime scene, as if it was part of a set or something.
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 06:33 PM
Oh SNAP!
Well done Najames!~
I love how Nejames brought up that Baez never picked up the tips that were collected for him. I also like that he brought up how difficult it might be to get volunteers for something like this in the future if people are afraid of court actions.
Heyes
01-29-2009, 06:35 PM
I love how Nejames brought up that Baez never picked up the tips that were collected for him. I also like that he brought up how difficult it might be to get volunteers for something like this in the future if people are afraid of court actions.
I agree, not to mention the guidelines needed and the specifics. Over 4000 people? Are we sure biaz finished law school?
cassidy
01-29-2009, 06:37 PM
I agree, not to mention the guidelines needed and the specifics. Over 4000 people? Are we sure biaz finished law school?
As I have said before. Someone had to graduate last in the class. I think we've found the one for Jose's class :)
chrissybot
01-29-2009, 06:37 PM
Oh SNAP!
Well done Najames!~
ITA! I liked how he said the request was nothing more than a fishing expedition....:thumbsup: jmo
?noanswer
01-29-2009, 06:38 PM
Did the unknown TB respond to the bar's investigation of JB? If so, did he use his real name? If he used a fictitious name, would that be illegal? JMO
Heyes
01-29-2009, 06:38 PM
As I have said before. Someone had to graduate last in the class. I think we've found the one for Jose's class :)
Ok cassidy, ya got me on that one! lol lol lol
real life calling...again...sheeesh, be back later, hope you're here!
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 06:39 PM
That would be a sight to see, Get the duct tape Lavena, I got stickers.
HAR HAR! Done! :thumbsup:
Katprint
01-29-2009, 06:42 PM
Oh for crying out loud!!! :rolleyes:
what do you want to bet that Todd is really JB :rolleyes:
Could be. Or maybe JB's best friend. Kind of like in the movie "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" where Ferris has his friend pretend to be his girlfriend's father on the phone, to have her pulled out of school.
This case is getting so surreal.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
Dells
01-29-2009, 06:43 PM
Casey will be in court Friday.
http://www.cfnews13.com/Default.aspx
:thumbsup:
WillowInFlight
01-29-2009, 06:44 PM
ITA! I liked how he said the request was nothing more than a fishing expedition....:thumbsup: jmo
:laugh:Another smackdown, this should get him ready for tomorrow.
Dells
01-29-2009, 06:45 PM
Hi and welcome! IIRC no one could find any info on this guy. I guess now we know why. It does sound like something Baez would do IMO.
Yes it does.:sneaky:
floridamom
01-29-2009, 06:46 PM
DELLS you are getting a new Governor!
Peter
01-29-2009, 06:50 PM
Isn't Cindy the one who called TES in the first place???
I'm waiting for Biaz to blame Caylee's death on Cindy or George. I bet that's WHY they have their own atty. It wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 06:52 PM
DELLS you are getting a new Governor!
That's the case we should have bet on! We would ALL have our chocolate and vodka. :thumbsup:
Had a weird thought... does anyone think that the sudden announcement by the anthonys attorney that the anthony's are possibly, maybe rethinking their position on casey is to make it a tad more welcoming for cindy to show up tomorrow? I don't know just a thought.
No, i really think they are starting to come to reality. For cindy, georges suicide attempt might have been a little impetus for her to wake up, now casey almost cost her her husband (and as strained as their relationship must be given everything i think they do support each other and even love each other) too.
CC I See
01-29-2009, 06:53 PM
Isn't Cindy the one who called TES in the first place???
I'm waiting for Biaz to blame Caylee's death on Cindy or George. I bet that's WHY they have their own atty. It wouldn't surprise me one bit.... that is an excellent point. If the Nanny story is full of holes, then they are next in line. Who else had access but the grandparnets that is except Casey.
Edited to add: This would establish a reasonable doubt for the defense.
Katprint
01-29-2009, 06:54 PM
I love how Nejames brought up that Baez never picked up the tips that were collected for him. I also like that he brought up how difficult it might be to get volunteers for something like this in the future if people are afraid of court actions.
I especially liked his bringing up the money part, in effect complaining that Baez cannot be trusted to pay for the documents he is trying to subpoena from TES (which somewhat overlaps Baez not bothering to pick up the tips because he was not willing/could not afford to pay for them.) This is consistent with Baez' inappropriate comments to the effect that the District Attorney's office should be investigated for racketeering for charging so much for preparing the "tip line" records that Baez subpoenaed from law enforcement. In reality, the problem wasn't that the charges were actually unreasonable for that amount of records - the problem was that Baez cannot afford to pay normal litigation costs. Rather than admit he is financially unqualified to defend Casey as well as legally unqualified due to his lack of sufficient legal experience and expertise, Baez attempted to cast the blame elsewhere. This strategy hasn't been working great for Casey and it isn't working great for him, either.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
happygert
01-29-2009, 06:54 PM
Oh SNAP!
Well done Najames!~
yes it was... LOL love the part about if they want the material and Judges orders it they want the money first.. They also want to know where the moneys coming from to pay them!!!.. Way to go NeJame.
beaz wont want this he don't want to PAY for them....he didn't pay for the tips ...they are still sitting... dang cant wait for tomorrow...Got a question will NeJame be in court tomorrow.. Or will this motion be heard a different day?
Leanne Weich
01-29-2009, 06:56 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0129/18597428.pdf
Nejames reply to JB re JB's motion for TES' record. JMO
Now that is a professionally written motion. Maybe Baez will keep a copy in his precedent file although I doubt he'd be successful in adapting it to any situation he finds himself in in the near future.
Peter
01-29-2009, 06:57 PM
No, i really think they are starting to come to reality. For cindy, georges suicide attempt might have been a little impetus for her to wake up, now casey almost cost her her husband (and as strained as their relationship must be given everything i think they do support each other and even love each other) too.
If they don't come to reality about their daughter, my guess is that they will be divorced before the end of the year.
Dells
01-29-2009, 06:57 PM
DELLS you are getting a new Governor!
:thumbsup:
Dells
01-29-2009, 06:58 PM
Isn't Cindy the one who called TES in the first place???
I'm waiting for Biaz to blame Caylee's death on Cindy or George. I bet that's WHY they have their own atty. It wouldn't surprise me one bit.
I am sure that Baez will work his way down to them eventually.:sneaky:
Lapis
01-29-2009, 06:59 PM
I especially liked his bringing up the money part, in effect complaining that Baez cannot be trusted to pay for the documents he is trying to subpoena from TES (which somewhat overlaps Baez not bothering to pick up the tips because he was not willing/could not afford to pay for them.) This is consistent with Baez' inappropriate comments to the effect that the District Attorney's office should be investigated for racketeering for charging so much for preparing the "tip line" records that Baez subpoenaed from law enforcement. In reality, the problem wasn't that the charges were actually unreasonable for that amount of records - the problem was that Baez cannot afford to pay normal litigation costs. Rather than admit he is financially unqualified to defend Casey as well as legally unqualified due to his lack of sufficient legal experience and expertise, Baez attempted to cast the blame elsewhere. This strategy hasn't been working great for Casey and it isn't working great for him, either.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
Not to mention that reference to Baez demonstrating that the funds come from a permissible source. We may learn where the defense funds are coming from afterall. JMO
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 06:59 PM
Last night on NG there was a caption at the bottom of the screen that mentioned a stainless steel knife being found with the body. Has anybody heard anything on that? I thought it was odd that it was not discussed on the show - just a caption on the bottom. I would think that if they had found one with the body that it would have been mentioned a long time ago.
That was incorrect, imo. open this pdf
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf
Page 2 talks about what is found in the car: Item #H-51975
Scroll to page 42 and they are talking about the SAME item # and I guess some get confused with the body or the car.
To me it's plain, but what do I know?!
Mimi428
01-29-2009, 07:02 PM
Rather than admit he is financially unqualified to defend Casey as well as legally unqualified due to his lack of sufficient legal experience and expertise, Baez attempted to cast the blame elsewhere. This strategy hasn't been working great for Casey and it isn't working great for him, either.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
<snipped>
I think that is a very important issue. And in some ways it bothers me almost as much as his blunders & stumbles in the strictly legal sense. If he does not have the humility or whatever you would call it to admit he does not have the financial resources it takes to give Casey a proper defense, the rest of the defense will suffer. He won't get stuff done in a timely fashion, he'll be in court every other day to plead for more time, etc.
I don't want an conviction overturned.
JMO
Katprint
01-29-2009, 07:03 PM
Not to mention that reference to Baez demonstrating that the funds come from a permissible source. We may learn where the defense funds are coming from afterall. JMO
I guess I have been working for financially solvent clients for too long. I just advance any necessary legal costs (copy services, deposition transcripts, etc.) then bill the client for those advanced costs.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
really3997
01-29-2009, 07:03 PM
channel 9 doing a smackdown on Todd Black and Jose
Januarybaby
01-29-2009, 07:04 PM
That was incorrect, imo. open this pdf
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf
Page 2 talks about what is found in the car: Item #H-51975
Scroll to page 42 and they are talking about the SAME item # and I guess some get confused with the body or the car.
To me it's plain, but what do I know?!
There was a knife found in the car, and CA washed it.
I really do not think Casey used it for anything and if she did, it was to cut the duct tape, but I highly doubt that.
happygert
01-29-2009, 07:04 PM
I especially liked his bringing up the money part, in effect complaining that Baez cannot be trusted to pay for the documents he is trying to subpoena from TES (which somewhat overlaps Baez not bothering to pick up the tips because he was not willing/could not afford to pay for them.) This is consistent with Baez' inappropriate comments to the effect that the District Attorney's office should be investigated for racketeering for charging so much for preparing the "tip line" records that Baez subpoenaed from law enforcement. In reality, the problem wasn't that the charges were actually unreasonable for that amount of records - the problem was that Baez cannot afford to pay normal litigation costs. Rather than admit he is financially unqualified to defend Casey as well as legally unqualified due to his lack of sufficient legal experience and expertise, Baez attempted to cast the blame elsewhere. This strategy hasn't been working great for Casey and it isn't working great for him, either.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
ITA.. But I guess casey found an attorney that fits right in with her.. not my fault its everyone else's..I think baez should be preparing for his case instead of trying to BS his way thru teaching some unsuspecting students that he knows what he's doing..
I just couldn't believe baez filing the motions for casey not to appear more then once and still getting the same order from Judge..The Judge ordered her there on the 8th said she would attend all pretial motions. Then he filed again Judge gave same order on 1/23, 1/26/ and again today.. I was thinking whooo this is not good same thing from baez 3 times not good... I was wondering what part of that order did he not understand?.... If im counting right thats 4 x Judge said she was to be there ..jmho...
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0129/18597428.pdf
Nejames reply to JB re JB's motion for TES' record. JMO
Remember the Highlights magazine for kids that used to be in the docotor's offices? They had a section called "Goofus and Gallant" (something like that). This reminds me of Goofus and Gallant. Baez is Goofus. NeJames is Gallant.
IMO.
Cury-us Coyote
01-29-2009, 07:05 PM
According to Fox35 at 6 - per BC CinA not attending, State filed Request to Strike on defense's motion to recuse - apparently judge MAY rule tomorrow, inappropriate advertising regarding dates of JB legal career
jmo
ETA - video to follow
True2Blues
01-29-2009, 07:05 PM
If the Judge Orders and Casey refuses she gets cuffed, shackled and carried in.
I could stand to see that.
channel 9 doing a smackdown on Todd Black and Jose
really, give us the scoop!
Mimi428
01-29-2009, 07:06 PM
Not to mention that reference to Baez demonstrating that the funds come from a permissible source. We may learn where the defense funds are coming from afterall. JMO
Ohhhh, good catch! I was not even thinking about that specific angle.
Purely out of spite & meanness, I would not be unhappy if he actually had to reveal his funding sources - for him, for all the experts, for the entire defense.
JMO
Oh SNAP!
Well done Najames!~
I like this
"4 The Defendant's request, through her councel, is additionally critically flawed and deficient in that the requisite accompanying subpoena has not been attatched or even identified."
'additionally critically flawed and deficient'
imo
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 07:07 PM
Not to mention that reference to Baez demonstrating that the funds come from a permissible source. We may learn where the defense funds are coming from afterall. JMO
Good point.:thumbup:
Lapis
01-29-2009, 07:08 PM
I guess I have been working for financially solvent clients for too long. I just advance any necessary legal costs (copy services, deposition transcripts, etc.) then bill the client for those advanced costs.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
That is the way it usually works. But nothing is usual about this case.
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 07:08 PM
Remember the Highlights magazine for kids that used to be in the docotor's offices? They had a section called "Goofus and Gallant" (something like that). This reminds me of Goofus and Gallant. Baez is Goofus. NeJames is Gallant.
IMO.
Goofus and Gallant it was! I've called my kids that and they think I've been in the cooking sherry again, lol.
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 07:08 PM
There was a knife found in the car, and CA washed it.
I really do not think Casey used it for anything and if she did, it was to cut the duct tape, but I highly doubt that.
Right the knife was in the car and CA washed it. It was not with little Caylee.
True2Blues
01-29-2009, 07:11 PM
I like this
"4 The Defendant's request, through her councel, is additionally critically flawed and deficient in that the requisite accompanying subpoena has not been attatched or even identified."
'additionally critically flawed and deficient'
imo
It sounds more dignified than saying the request is even more screwed up and nonsensical, and lacking in any paper work showing there is an actual legally acceptable reason for this to be turned over to them./Baez doesn't know what he's doing and won't go through proper channels to get things.:biggrin:
Cinsd
01-29-2009, 07:12 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0129/18597428.pdf
Nejames reply to JB re JB's motion for TES' record. JMO
I love it, somebody needs to tell JB straight up of his inadequacies :thumbsup:
ConchGirl
01-29-2009, 07:13 PM
Long time lurker here! I'm wondering if there are any pictures of "Todd Black" I have always wondered if it was Baez. Back to lurking. TIA
I think you could be right. Especially if you take note of the grammar and sentence structure or lack thereof and of course, the praise for the almighty Baez. jmo
Regina.Lampert
01-29-2009, 07:13 PM
I like this
"4 The Defendant's request, through her councel, is additionally critically flawed and deficient in that the requisite accompanying subpoena has not been attatched or even identified."
'additionally critically flawed and deficient'
imo
I love that part. Incompetent I tell ya!! :biggrin:
It sounds more dignified than saying the request is even more screwed up and nonsensical, and lacking in any paper work showing there is an actual legally acceptable reason for this to be turned over to them./Baez doesn't know what he's doing and won't go through proper channels to get things.:biggrin:
:thumbsup:, although I have to say, it would have been nice to see.lol
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 07:15 PM
I love it, somebody needs to tell JB straight up of his inadequacies :thumbsup:
Yep and I love it. Baez is a doofus, imo.
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 07:16 PM
I love it, somebody needs to tell JB straight up of his inadequacies :thumbsup:
In all fairness, we don't know what goes on at his home. :ohmy::laugh:
Regina.Lampert
01-29-2009, 07:17 PM
It sounds more dignified than saying the request is even more screwed up and nonsensical, and lacking in any paper work showing there is an actual legally acceptable reason for this to be turned over to them./Baez doesn't know what he's doing and won't go through proper channels to get things.:biggrin:
.............:thumbsup:
jammies
01-29-2009, 07:19 PM
In all fairness, we don't know what goes on at his home. :ohmy::laugh:
I'm thinking Lucy and Ricky's "furniture" arrangement.
steffaroob4
01-29-2009, 07:19 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0129/18597428.pdf
Nejames reply to JB re JB's motion for TES' record. JMO
I think the A's made a big mistake loosing him, he is not messing around with Baez.
martha
01-29-2009, 07:20 PM
The way I understand it is casey has to be in court tomorrow per the judge. I may be wrong about this. I think cindy will be there. I don;t know about geroge if he is being moved to another hospital close to home they may not let him go to court. Jmho
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 07:20 PM
We've never seen Todd Black, but we've sure heard him. LOL. He really messes up this with his "loss of life of this little girl"!!!!!
http://www.truveo.com/Todd-Black/id/4137381827
joolz
01-29-2009, 07:21 PM
In all fairness, we don't know what goes on at his home. :ohmy::laugh:
Ouch, girl!:lol:
steffaroob4
01-29-2009, 07:21 PM
What is the alleged commonality within/between Rod Blagojevich, Drew Peterson, and Casey Anthony?
Glen Selig:confused:
Peter
01-29-2009, 07:22 PM
I think you could be right. Especially if you take note of the grammar and sentence structure or lack thereof and of course, the praise for the almighty Baez. jmo
Isn't Todd Black the one who had the Uh-oh moment speaking of Caylee as deceased? It would be PRICELESS if it is Biaz.
joolz
01-29-2009, 07:23 PM
Right the knife was in the car and CA washed it. It was not with little Caylee.
That's what I thought, River. But last night on NG on the crawl I could swear it said that a knife had been found with the body, too. But it was never mentioned on what I saw of the show, so maybe it was just an error. :shrug:
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 07:23 PM
I'm thinking Lucy and Ricky's "furniture" arrangement.
:laugh::laugh:
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 07:24 PM
Glen Selig:confused:
GREAT guess. Listen to him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC0DzN3vZD8
True2Blues
01-29-2009, 07:25 PM
I love it, somebody needs to tell JB straight up of his inadequacies :thumbsup:
It does read well! The defendant, through her attorney is asking for something outside the jurisdiction of the court, trying to sidestep proper procedure (Baez hates doing his own work), has no basis for the request, (since TES has said since Caylee was found that they never searched that area before it was flooded and couldn't after) and no reason to invade the privacy of volunteers since they never discovered anything related to the case. If they do want papers, they should offer to pay for them and prove they actually have the $$ to do so from legal sources. (since they've already ripped the state off for several hundred. :laugh:
Yep, that's Baez.
achristie
01-29-2009, 07:25 PM
George Anthony to remain hospitalized.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=74640&cat=14
I don't blame him. It's the only place for the man to find any peace. Clean bed, three squares, safe, no crazy, volatile wife to deal with. He should stay for as long as he can.
MOO Aggie
gaelicpeas
01-29-2009, 07:25 PM
Glen Selig:confused:That is who I was thinking... but he seems more professional than this Todd (not my real-name) Black. JMO
chrissybot
01-29-2009, 07:27 PM
That was incorrect, imo. open this pdf
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf
Page 2 talks about what is found in the car: Item #H-51975
Scroll to page 42 and they are talking about the SAME item # and I guess some get confused with the body or the car.
To me it's plain, but what do I know?!
This is where I too am confused. I know a knife was in the trunk & Cindy washed it. Now this is from the People mag. I am looking at:
"More pieces of the puzzle"
1.duct tape from scene
2." stainless steel knife was also found in the trash bag with Caylee's remains"
3.Pooh blanket
4.plastic horse
thoughts????:confused:
happygert
01-29-2009, 07:27 PM
Oh baez didnt want casey in court because everyone was talking about her weight gain and physical condition.. What is her physical condition? Umm why is baez even commenting on that??
Last court hearing casey told OCSD she wasn't going to court and she didnt care if she got a contempt of court charge..( she was probably thinking what ae they going to do throw in in jail)....Whats up with that? Umm I like the OCSD attitude.. She'll be in court one way or the other....I don't think casey's been used to anyone telling her what to do.. I guess she's still trying to be the "BOSS" in this conglomerate.....ROFLMAO........:lol: :thumbsup:
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 07:27 PM
That's what I thought, River. But last night on NG on the crawl I could swear it said that a knife had been found with the body, too. But it was never mentioned on what I saw of the show, so maybe it was just an error. :shrug:
Hi. See my post #125 on this thread. I explain the confusion or at least what I "think" is the confusion. LOL.
I think this board knows more about this case than ANY talking head!!! YAY us.
Cury-us Coyote
01-29-2009, 07:27 PM
That's what I thought, River. But last night on NG on the crawl I could swear it said that a knife had been found with the body, too. But it was never mentioned on what I saw of the show, so maybe it was just an error. :shrug:
Just another error, that will not be corrected, IMO.
Note to self - then you're in luck, that apartment is available.
?noanswer
01-29-2009, 07:27 PM
Could be. Or maybe JB's best friend. Kind of like in the movie "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" where Ferris has his friend pretend to be his girlfriend's father on the phone, to have her pulled out of school.
This case is getting so surreal.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
I think TB might be the nanny's other half. I wonder if KC helped JB come up with that story. JMO
gaelicpeas
01-29-2009, 07:28 PM
I don't blame him. It's the only place for the man to find any peace. Clean bed, three squares, safe, no crazy, volatile wife to deal with. He should stay for as long as he can.
MOO AggieSounds kinda like where Casey is. Hmmmm, maybe they all just want to get away from her. JMO
Mimi428
01-29-2009, 07:28 PM
We've never seen Todd Black, but we've sure heard him. LOL. He really messes up this with his "loss of life of this little girl"!!!!!
http://www.truveo.com/Todd-Black/id/4137381827
I know! What the heck was up with that craziness? The entire time I was reading it I was thinking a high school journalism student could put together a better statement than that. And it wasn't just the off-kilter structure - the whole tone & word usage sounded like it was being written by a pizzy kid.
And the "altered name" excuse? And the completely off the wall claim that there are some nefarious folks "out there" who might do them harm. What in the world was that all about?
You'd think they were on a CIA mission in an unfriendly country - or they were WWII spies, going behind enemy lines. Yeah. That's it. They were previously all members of the French underground resistance. Maybe the Red Baron will fly in & rescue the lot of them.
What a bunch of maroons.
steffaroob4
01-29-2009, 07:29 PM
We've never seen Todd Black, but we've sure heard him. LOL. He really messes up this with his "loss of life of this little girl"!!!!!
http://www.truveo.com/Todd-Black/id/4137381827
Funny, seems he starts out the interview trying to talk like an older gentleman, but his voice changes....
ConchGirl
01-29-2009, 07:29 PM
I don't blame him. It's the only place for the man to find any peace. Clean bed, three squares, safe, no crazy, volatile wife to deal with. He should stay for as long as he can.
MOO Aggie
ITA, I think he doesn't want to go home to the Casa de Anthony and I don't blame him. At least where he is, he can speak his mind and not be told what he needs to say. Hopefully he is healing and IMO Cindy needs to seek help for herself before she self-destructs.
gaelicpeas
01-29-2009, 07:29 PM
This is where I too am confused. I know a knife was in the trunk & Cindy washed it. Now this is from the People mag. I am looking at:
"More pieces of the puzzle"
1.duct tape from scene
2." stainless steel knife was also found in the trash bag with Caylee's remains"
3.Pooh blanket
4.plastic horse
thoughts????:confused:My thoughts are that lots of folks are mis-interpreting what was said in the last doc dump (sorry Legal). River has pointed out that the evidence number for the knife is the one found in the car. In other words, no knife at the scene. I may be wrong, but I agree with River. JMO
joolz
01-29-2009, 07:30 PM
Hi. See my post #125 on this thread. I explain the confusion or at least what I "think" is the confusion. LOL.
I think this board knows more about this case than ANY talking head!!! YAY us.
Oh, thanks - like there isn't enough confusion about this case anyway! I agree, we are a stellar group of brainiac sleuths (who happen to be just a wee bit obsessive about this case:biggrin:).
MyrDawn
01-29-2009, 07:30 PM
Does anyone remember where we heard that part about Lee being estranged from the family for a year?
I remember hearing Cindy's brother, Rick, had been estranged from them, but not that Lee had been. jmo
Peter
01-29-2009, 07:31 PM
Oh baez didnt want casey in court because everyone was talking about her weight gain and physical condition.. What is her physical condition? Umm why is baez even commenting on that??
Last court hearing casey told OCSD she wasn't going to court and she didnt care if she got a contempt of court charge..( she was probably thinking what ae they going to do throw in in jail)....Whats up with that? Umm I like the OCSD attitude.. She'll be in court one way or the other....I don't think casey's been used to anyone telling her what to do.. I guess she's still trying to be the "BOSS" in this conglomerate.....ROFLMAO........:lol: :thumbsup:
What's poor casey gonna do? She'll be told what to do for the rest of her life. Doesn't she get that?
martha
01-29-2009, 07:32 PM
I think the A's made a big mistake loosing him, he is not messing around with Baez.ITA the a;s really messed up when they lost him,jmho
chrissybot
01-29-2009, 07:33 PM
My thoughts are that lots of folks are mis-interpreting what was said in the last doc dump (sorry Legal). River has pointed out that the evidence number for the knife is the one found in the car. In other words, no knife at the scene. I may be wrong, but I agree with River. JMO
Ahhh....Gotcha gael:wink: TY!
steffaroob4
01-29-2009, 07:33 PM
GREAT guess. Listen to him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC0DzN3vZD8
I am not sure if it matches Todd Black.
The Todd Black voice I have definately heard before. I need to go find a clip of that guy that wrote a book about DP, that is who I am thinking.
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 07:34 PM
This is where I too am confused. I know a knife was in the trunk & Cindy washed it. Now this is from the People mag. I am looking at:
"More pieces of the puzzle"
1.duct tape from scene
2." stainless steel knife was also found in the trash bag with Caylee's remains"
3.Pooh blanket
4.plastic horse
thoughts????:confused:
It's incorrect. Just read the pdf (http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf) and follow along with the item #'s of each box. IMO. Box/item #H-51975 was items found in the car, imo. Not with little Caylee.
This document talks about what was found with Caylee:
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530229.pdf
page 3159; start with the sentence "Once at the medical examiners office.........."
And please NOTE that a female FBI agent was there (Susan Cowan). I trust that she would know the difference between a blanket and a comforter, IMO.
MOO
bluwaters
01-29-2009, 07:35 PM
I think TB might be the nanny's other half. I wonder if KC helped JB come up with that story. JMO
Just another invisible, imaginary person.
I wonder if there will be a special seating section in the court room at trial for all the imaginary friends that will want to be in attendance?
Cinsd
01-29-2009, 07:36 PM
In all fairness, we don't know what goes on at his home. :ohmy::laugh:
Or his office:laugh:
Larkin
01-29-2009, 07:37 PM
Snipped...
I don't think casey's been used to anyone telling her what to do.. I guess she's still trying to be the "BOSS" in this conglomerate.....ROFLMAO........:lol: :thumbsup:
I think she learned this from Cindy...
JMO
newsjunkie
01-29-2009, 07:37 PM
Ahhh....Gotcha gael:wink: TY!
or Casey ate alot of velveeta on crackers in the car and took knives from the house at least twice?
chrissybot
01-29-2009, 07:37 PM
It's incorrect. Just read the pdf (http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf) and follow along with the item #'s of each box. IMO. Box/item #H-51975 was items found in the car, imo. Not with little Caylee.
This document talks about what was found with Caylee:
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530229.pdf
page 3159; start with the sentence "Once at the medical examiners office.........."
And please NOTE that a female FBI agent was there (Susan Cowan). I trust that she would know the difference between a blanket and a comforter, IMO.
MOO
TY river & ITA! I also have been following the case since the get go & have read & triple read all the info, so when I saw that I was like :confused:.. lol
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 07:38 PM
I am not sure if it matches Todd Black.
The Todd Black voice I have definately heard before. I need to go find a clip of that guy that wrote a book about DP, that is who I am thinking.
I don't think it's the same voice, but it is the same SPIN that TB is using. Selig is linked with Drew Peterson and Blago. Is he linked with this case? I don't know. May be a common trait for those PR types???
caphill
01-29-2009, 07:38 PM
http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0129/18597428.pdf
Nejames reply to JB re JB's motion for TES' record. JMO
IIRC, Tim Miller rushed back to Fla and was taken by LE to the exact site of where the body was found. Mr. Miller rushed to the cameras and discussed the site and the condition of the foliage under Caylee's body. He also discussed how he searched the area. He mentioned he had lost an all terrain vehicle near the recovery site in the marsh. None of the defense was allowed on the scene as the area was being processed.
Was it a surprise that the defense would be asking to see his records of areas searched, who searched the area, the conditions of the area when he was searching.
I can't imagine why any volunteer searchers would want to remain anonymous. The questions being asked about the unusual 4 attempts to find body in this general area that Tim Miller and some of his searchers publicly stated they had searched certainly deserves scrutiny.
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 07:38 PM
Sounds kinda like where Casey is. Hmmmm, maybe they all just want to get away from her. JMO
Shame one has to go to a prison and the other to go to a psych ward to those ends. Must be baaaad!:scared:
happygert
01-29-2009, 07:38 PM
What's poor casey gonna do? She'll be told what to do for the rest of her life. Doesn't she get that?
No I dont think she does...Remember she's the "BOSS"...:lol: Her daddy gave her that title...lol,...
I said Ga would be out of Hospital tomorrow .. was reported he may leave hospital tomorrow but didnt know if he was going to go home......hummm......:shrug: well I guess he's going to try and throw the reporting off casey and the hearing tomorrow.. Not to sure it'll work again...I knew CA would not show up in court tomorrow...she'll be mia....
joolz
01-29-2009, 07:39 PM
Just another invisible, imaginary person.
I wonder if there will be a special seating section in the court room at trial for all the imaginary friends that will want to be in attendance?
I don't think they will be there. Like Zanni, I believe they have all lost their money in the stock market crash and gone into the Witness Protection Program. :biggrin:
achristie
01-29-2009, 07:39 PM
ITA, I think he doesn't want to go home to the Casa de Anthony and I don't blame him. At least where he is, he can speak his mind and not be told what he needs to say. Hopefully he is healing and IMO Cindy needs to seek help for herself before she self-destructs.
I agree. He needs to heal. He's not as tough as his wife. She is relentless. I do feel for this family, though. They have lived a lie for too many years to count. I posted this long ago - what came first , the chicken or the egg? My sentiments do not include the daughter. She is evil. And she should pay for what she did, beginning with her bony azz being present for every hearing.
MOO Aggie
steffaroob4
01-29-2009, 07:40 PM
I don't think it's the same voice, but it is the same SPIN that TB is using. Selig is linked with Drew Peterson and Blago. Is he linked with this case? I don't know. May be a common trait for those PR types???
Yes, he has linked himself, putting in his press releases that he has done behind the scene work. Let me try to find the actual quote.
ConchGirl
01-29-2009, 07:40 PM
My thoughts are that lots of folks are mis-interpreting what was said in the last doc dump (sorry Legal). River has pointed out that the evidence number for the knife is the one found in the car. In other words, no knife at the scene. I may be wrong, but I agree with River. JMO
I for one am sick and tired of the mis words in this case. Misconstrued, Mis-truths, Misspoke, Caylee was a Mistake, Mis-communication, Misunderstand, Misfortune, Misquoted all over the Misfortune that a Missing child that was murdered. :sad:
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 07:40 PM
I don't think they will be there. Like Zanni, I believe they have all lost their money in the stock market crash and gone into the Witness Protection Program. :biggrin:
:laugh: You nutter! :wub:
Heyes
01-29-2009, 07:43 PM
In all fairness, we don't know what goes on at his home. :ohmy::laugh:
LOL
His wife, if a smart cookie, is out shopping at Bloomies. Taking luxury weekends in the bahamas and stopping by Harry Winstons. Spend it while ya can babe!
How embarrassing. lol
steffaroob4
01-29-2009, 07:43 PM
Yes, he has linked himself, putting in his press releases that he has done behind the scene work. Let me try to find the actual quote.
Publicist Specializes in Representing (http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1116&z=4)High Profile Clients at the Center of National News Stories
happygert
01-29-2009, 07:43 PM
Snipped...
I think she learned this from Cindy...
JMO
No doubt in my mind.....
What a power struggle it must have been in the house of A's... Too many wanting to be the boss ...
CanCan
01-29-2009, 07:44 PM
Or his office:laugh:
:lol::lol:
Regina.Lampert
01-29-2009, 07:44 PM
IIRC, Tim Miller rushed back to Fla and was taken by LE to the exact site of where the body was found. Mr. Miller rushed to the cameras and discussed the site and the condition of the foliage under Caylee's body. He also discussed how he searched the area. He mentioned he had lost an all terrain vehicle near the recovery site in the marsh. None of the defense was allowed on the scene as the area was being processed.
Was it a surprise that the defense would be asking to see his records of areas searched, who searched the area, the conditions of the area when he was searching.
I can't imagine why any volunteer searchers would want to remain anonymous. The questions being asked about the unusual 4 attempts to find body in this general area that Tim Miller and some of his searchers publicly stated they had searched certainly deserves scrutiny.
Unless baez can demonstrate to the court a specific reason he wants this information, he won't get it. The Equsearch organization has a right to keep their questionaires of searchers private. imo. It's just as Mr. Nejame says, a fishing expedition by baez.
Dells
01-29-2009, 07:45 PM
Oh baez didnt want casey in court because everyone was talking about her weight gain and physical condition.. What is her physical condition? Umm why is baez even commenting on that??
Last court hearing casey told OCSD she wasn't going to court and she didnt care if she got a contempt of court charge..( she was probably thinking what ae they going to do throw in in jail)....Whats up with that? Umm I like the OCSD attitude.. She'll be in court one way or the other....I don't think casey's been used to anyone telling her what to do.. I guess she's still trying to be the "BOSS" in this conglomerate.....ROFLMAO........:lol: :thumbsup:
Bolding is mine....
Wow, I didn't know that! Why would she risk getting a contempt of court charge just so she didn't have to appear in court? She needs to change her attitude quick.
Motomom
01-29-2009, 07:45 PM
This whole Todd Black (not my real name) thing is a crock.. makes a mockery of this entire thing.. guess he's just joining the crowd. I cannot believe the clowns in this circus.. it's reprehensible IMO
Lavenia
01-29-2009, 07:46 PM
I've emailed NG the last couple of days to ask if there could have been soft tissue on Caylee's remains that they haven't reported. I NEED that answer, dammit! :cuss:
happygert
01-29-2009, 07:47 PM
I don't think they will be there. Like Zanni, I believe they have all lost their money in the stock market crash and gone into the Witness Protection Program. :biggrin:
roflmao.....:lol: They can just all squeeze in no one will notice...:lol:
ITA, I think he doesn't want to go home to the Casa de Anthony and I don't blame him. At least where he is, he can speak his mind and not be told what he needs to say. Hopefully he is healing and IMO Cindy needs to seek help for herself before she self-destructs.
doesn't Geo need to come home so they can hold a service for Caylee?
Cury-us Coyote
01-29-2009, 07:48 PM
Is it time for a blast from the past? Here's JB and his lovely wife, Loraina, on the pleasure boat with the shirtless Geraldo & bro - courtesy of Fox & Friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OLOhoV8mE
joolz
01-29-2009, 07:50 PM
:laugh: You nutter! :wub:
Aw shucks, thank you.:blushing:
happygert
01-29-2009, 07:51 PM
IIRC, Tim Miller rushed back to Fla and was taken by LE to the exact site of where the body was found. Mr. Miller rushed to the cameras and discussed the site and the condition of the foliage under Caylee's body. He also discussed how he searched the area. He mentioned he had lost an all terrain vehicle near the recovery site in the marsh. None of the defense was allowed on the scene as the area was being processed.
Was it a surprise that the defense would be asking to see his records of areas searched, who searched the area, the conditions of the area when he was searching.
I can't imagine why any volunteer searchers would want to remain anonymous. The questions being asked about the unusual 4 attempts to find body in this general area that Tim Miller and some of his searchers publicly stated they had searched certainly deserves scrutiny.
Tim NEVER said they searched there what he said is they started to go in there and search water was too high they lost one of their 4 wheelers and he pulled search IT was STOPPED ..WAS NOT SEARCHED........Atleast not by TES but. DC was trying to find her remains there How did he know CAYLEE`was THERE? Thats the question that should be asked
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 07:51 PM
IIRC, Tim Miller rushed back to Fla and was taken by LE to the exact site of where the body was found. Mr. Miller rushed to the cameras and discussed the site and the condition of the foliage under Caylee's body. He also discussed how he searched the area. He mentioned he had lost an all terrain vehicle near the recovery site in the marsh. None of the defense was allowed on the scene as the area was being processed.
Was it a surprise that the defense would be asking to see his records of areas searched, who searched the area, the conditions of the area when he was searching.
I can't imagine why any volunteer searchers would want to remain anonymous. The questions being asked about the unusual 4 attempts to find body in this general area that Tim Miller and some of his searchers publicly stated they had searched certainly deserves scrutiny.
NOPE. Tim and/or TES volunteers never "searched" the site where Caylee Marie Anthony was found. An attempt is not a SEARCH. Neither did Dom Casey being filmed by Hoover.
MOO
ETA: Tim didn't "rush" back to Florida when Caylee was. He was in the hospital in Florida with bleeding ulcers.
Calla
01-29-2009, 07:52 PM
If they don't come to reality about their daughter, my guess is that they will be divorced before the end of the year.
Coming in late on this I am sure
Another Wager ?? :sneaky:
I gathered from the emails Cindy wanted it over. I guess it still all depends on her (imo)
If they don't lean on each other now..they never will
I say they will stay together..because I am rebellious that way
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 07:53 PM
Is it time for a blast from the past? Here's JB and his lovely wife, Loraina, on the pleasure boat with the shirtless Geraldo & bro - courtesy of Fox & Friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OLOhoV8mE
I need more Tums. ICK. My tic is coming back. lol
OneUp
01-29-2009, 07:55 PM
I love how Nejames brought up that Baez never picked up the tips that were collected for him. I also like that he brought up how difficult it might be to get volunteers for something like this in the future if people are afraid of court actions.
I <3 neJames...he's STILL a bit of an odd duck really, but he appears to have class and professionalism.
I can ALMOST forgive him for having a casting of his daughters butt in the entryway of his home( or wherever one hangs such a "keepsake"...LOL :) ).
Baez also continues to show his true colors and prove his lack of professionalism, his hubris, and his general stupidity.
The whole Todd Black thing is BEYOND weird. Truthfully, I *think* the Florida Bar dropped the subject as BIGGER hinky matters are going on regarding the alias identities, fraud, and unethical behavior...things that the feds. are tracking and plan to deal with sooner or later. I see no other reason that the FBA would accept the word of a nonentity ( with no real # , email, or even drivers license), who states that Baez is on the up and up...would they also accept a letter from Santa Claus? he at least surely existed once!
It is now approaching X-Files levels of weird IMO!
JMO.
Calla
01-29-2009, 07:58 PM
This is where I too am confused. I know a knife was in the trunk & Cindy washed it. Now this is from the People mag. I am looking at:
"More pieces of the puzzle"
1.duct tape from scene
2." stainless steel knife was also found in the trash bag with Caylee's remains"
3.Pooh blanket
4.plastic horse
thoughts????:confused:
That's what I thought I read at one time, but I thought I must have been wrong when someone said no knife with Caylee.
I recall this because I remember wondering if it was a butter knife or sharper one. I though there was no way bones could show she was stabbed if the knife never hit a bone...I recall that because I had an anxiety attack when I read that. seriously
gaelicpeas
01-29-2009, 07:59 PM
What's poor casey gonna do? She'll be told what to do for the rest of her life. Doesn't she get that?
I don't think Casey or her mother have ever been told what to do, except to each other. JMO
bluwaters
01-29-2009, 07:59 PM
I for one am sick and tired of the mis words in this case. Misconstrued, Mis-truths, Misspoke, Caylee was a Mistake, Mis-communication, Misunderstand, Misfortune, Misquoted all over the Misfortune that a Missing child that was murdered. :sad:
We could call that class of words "Les Mis" or just plain mis-erable.
bchand
01-29-2009, 08:00 PM
GREAT guess. Listen to him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC0DzN3vZD8
Here too. He admits being involved with Baez (in the background, ha)
http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1116&z=4
gaelicpeas
01-29-2009, 08:01 PM
Ahhh....Gotcha gael:wink: TY!You're welcome! (although River and daHawg and probably Cury and some others deserve the original credit for deciphering this)
Is it time for a blast from the past? Here's JB and his lovely wife, Loraina, on the pleasure boat with the shirtless Geraldo & bro - courtesy of Fox & Friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OLOhoV8mE
hummmmmmm they are buddy buddy?
happygert
01-29-2009, 08:02 PM
Is it time for a blast from the past? Here's JB and his lovely wife, Loraina, on the pleasure boat with the shirtless Geraldo & bro - courtesy of Fox & Friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OLOhoV8mE
Thanks for the Blast from the past..Cury...BTW has anyone seen her lately?
gaelicpeas
01-29-2009, 08:03 PM
I don't think it's the same voice, but it is the same SPIN that TB is using. Selig is linked with Drew Peterson and Blago. Is he linked with this case? I don't know. May be a common trait for those PR types???River, there was an article several months ago with Selig commenting on this case. I don't have a link to the article, so I will just have to say IMO. It was unclear, to me at least, from that article whether he is involved in this case or not.
bluwaters
01-29-2009, 08:03 PM
Issues with JVM
Live Stream:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nancy-grace-ustream-channel-by-torbenmiller
Katprint
01-29-2009, 08:04 PM
IIRC, Tim Miller rushed back to Fla and was taken by LE to the exact site of where the body was found. Mr. Miller rushed to the cameras and discussed the site and the condition of the foliage under Caylee's body. He also discussed how he searched the area. He mentioned he had lost an all terrain vehicle near the recovery site in the marsh. None of the defense was allowed on the scene as the area was being processed.
Was it a surprise that the defense would be asking to see his records of areas searched, who searched the area, the conditions of the area when he was searching.
The defense should have limited the scope of the subpoena to the vacant lot where Caylee's remains were found. TES searches anywhere else are legally irrelevant, thus Baez' subpoena was impermissibly "overbroad."
I can't imagine why any volunteer searchers would want to remain anonymous. The questions being asked about the unusual 4 attempts to find body in this general area that Tim Miller and some of his searchers publicly stated they had searched certainly deserves scrutiny.
I can imagine any number of reasons that volunteer searchers would want to remain anonymous. Perhaps they want to avoid the same kind of vicious character attacks that have plagued the real Zenaida Gonzales (who was neither a nanny nor kidnapped Caylee), Tony Lazarro, Ricardo Morales, Jesse Grund, former sheriff's deputy Anthony Rusciano, tow lot supervisor Simon Burch (who had to defend Cindy's accusations that maybe a dead body was put in Casey's car while in his lot), the meter reader, and virtually everyone else whose name becomes public in this case. Perhaps they called in sick and don't want their boss to see that they were actually out searching. Perhaps they have financial/legal/family/other troubles and don't want to come under public "scrutiny." Perhaps they are concerned about identity theft (by criminals like Casey) if their names and personal information become public. Perhaps they just happen to like their constitutionally-protected privacy.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
cloe23
01-29-2009, 08:05 PM
I am watching HLN forget name Jane something?
I am interested as to how this information got leaked to a paparazzi magazine.
I am also very happy that the judge ordered that Casey is required to be at all the hearings, or at least this one.
gaelicpeas
01-29-2009, 08:05 PM
IIRC, Tim Miller rushed back to Fla and was taken by LE to the exact site of where the body was found. Mr. Miller rushed to the cameras and discussed the site and the condition of the foliage under Caylee's body. He also discussed how he searched the area. He mentioned he had lost an all terrain vehicle near the recovery site in the marsh. None of the defense was allowed on the scene as the area was being processed.
Was it a surprise that the defense would be asking to see his records of areas searched, who searched the area, the conditions of the area when he was searching.
I can't imagine why any volunteer searchers would want to remain anonymous. The questions being asked about the unusual 4 attempts to find body in this general area that Tim Miller and some of his searchers publicly stated they had searched certainly deserves scrutiny.I agree with you in some respects, caphill, about this.
happygert
01-29-2009, 08:06 PM
OMG NO! Jayne Weintraub on JLM.......:scared:
ConchGirl
01-29-2009, 08:06 PM
Is it time for a blast from the past? Here's JB and his lovely wife, Loraina, on the pleasure boat with the shirtless Geraldo & bro - courtesy of Fox & Friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OLOhoV8mE
Thanks, I have never seen that. I guess Hispanics stick together :shrug: when there is money involved. moo
gaelicpeas
01-29-2009, 08:07 PM
Shame one has to go to a prison and the other to go to a psych ward to those ends. Must be baaaad!:scared:Right? Sheesh... from the time I was independent of my parents, I always had a job, paid the rent/mortgage, whatever... And yet, Casey is not the only young adult that I know of these days that does this, sad to say. JMO
Is it time for a blast from the past? Here's JB and his lovely wife, Loraina, on the pleasure boat with the shirtless Geraldo & bro - courtesy of Fox & Friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OLOhoV8mE
Oh Cury - I had not seen that before. So let me get this straight. Baez can go out on the boat of Geraldo with his wife and does an interview from the boat...and he blames the media for being over the top. I am sure he was forced on to the boat :wink:.... Sick!
IMO
gaelicpeas
01-29-2009, 08:09 PM
I for one am sick and tired of the mis words in this case. Misconstrued, Mis-truths, Misspoke, Caylee was a Mistake, Mis-communication, Misunderstand, Misfortune, Misquoted all over the Misfortune that a Missing child that was murdered. :sad:lol, sorry Conchgirl.. should I have said "interpreted incorrectly"?
Calla
01-29-2009, 08:10 PM
If Cindy ever begins to think Casey did this to get at her..well it is over. No more court hearings for Cindy. She will forever be absent from Casey's life.
The laughing you hear from Cindy on the nursing home tape the last day Caylee lived..leaves me no doubt that Cindy found much joy from being with that child.
I am going to backtrack now because I am confused about the undercover names spoken about.... :confused:
OneUp
01-29-2009, 08:10 PM
I can imagine any number of reasons that volunteer searchers would want to remain anonymous. Perhaps they want to avoid the same kind of vicious character attacks that have plagued the real Zenaida Gonzales (who was neither a nanny nor kidnapped Caylee), Tony Lazarro, Ricardo Morales, Jesse Grund, former sheriff's deputy Anthony Rusciano, tow lot supervisor Simon Burch (who had to defend Cindy's accusations that maybe a dead body was put in Casey's car while in his lot), the meter reader, and virtually everyone else whose name becomes public in this case. Perhaps they called in sick and don't want their boss to see that they were actually out searching. Perhaps they have financial/legal/family/other troubles and don't want to come under public "scrutiny." Perhaps they are concerned about identity theft (by criminals like Casey) if their names and personal information become public. Perhaps they just happen to like their constitutionally-protected privacy.
Katprint
Always only my own opinions
Woo Hoo! ITA Katprint, ITA.:thumbup:
I wonder WHY anyone questions the reasons the volunteers might wish to maintain their privacy....just seeing that so many docs. released in this case failed to redact the personal information of the parties mentioned is enough reason for me.
As you say...imagine 4,000 SS#'s, home addies, full names, employers, etc. "out" there. That would be quite tempting for many a criminal!
JMO.
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 08:10 PM
River, there was an article several months ago with Selig commenting on this case. I don't have a link to the article, so I will just have to say IMO. It was unclear, to me at least, from that article whether he is involved in this case or not.
I remember that, but for the life of me I can't find it to see IF he was just yakking or was he involved with TB = JB= Casey??? Still looking. :seeya:
gaelicpeas
01-29-2009, 08:11 PM
Publicist Specializes in Representing (http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1116&z=4)High Profile Clients at the Center of National News StoriesI do believe that's it, steff - thanks! (Although I thought it was a few months ago. My, how time flies in this case with 3-4 shocking events happening every day!)
Cury-us Coyote
01-29-2009, 08:12 PM
Casey Anthony case: Stations to offer live coverage of hearing
WESH talked to defense attorney Richard Hornsby for expert legal analysis, and he weighed in on Casey's appearances in court.
"I would want my client, and I do want my client, to know my every legal move I make ... so they cannot claim they did not know what was going on," Hornsby told Kealing.
Hornsby questioned why Baez was fighting to let Anthony stay out of court. "The only logic I can personally see in something like this is if you're trying to keep your client isolated so they don't know what's going on, so they don't know the big picture," Hornsby said.
Some wise producer should snap up Hornsby for a law show; he makes points clearly and he has an ease on camera.
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/01/casey-anthony-case-judge-rules-she-must-be-in-court.html
There was a knife found in the car, and CA washed it.
I really do not think Casey used it for anything and if she did, it was to cut the duct tape, but I highly doubt that.
I think the knife was used to cut the cheese! No really!
She had had huge amounts of Velvetta in that car at one time.
magnolia
01-29-2009, 08:12 PM
Thanks, I have never seen that. I guess Hispanics stick together :shrug: when there is money involved. moo
Did you really just say that?
need2no
01-29-2009, 08:17 PM
OMG NO! Jayne Weintraub on JLM.......:scared:
She makes my skin crawl......
Heyes
01-29-2009, 08:17 PM
I do believe that's it, steff - thanks! (Although I thought it was a few months ago. My, how time flies in this case with 3-4 shocking events happening every day!)
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that maybe this Selig guy should rethink his career choice. Seems he's just not that good at shaping those messages.
Quote from article:
Selig says he and his Agency work closely with criminal defense attorneys in high-profile cases, offering advice to them as well in how to deal with the news media and how to shape a message.
Just sayin.
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 08:17 PM
I do believe that's it, steff - thanks! (Although I thought it was a few months ago. My, how time flies in this case with 3-4 shocking events happening every day!)
YAY!! WTG Steff. That's the link for all 3 "losers". moo
WhiteShark
01-29-2009, 08:19 PM
IMO, Janie W (now on HLN Issues news show) is a bumbling idiot. It seems she never knows what she is talking about and goes off half-cocked so much of the time. I would LOVE to talk to her and ask her questions, and see if she is capable of giving a straight answer without shouting and forgeting our judicial system is an adversarial process. I think she forgets the state is entitled to a fair trial just as the defense is. I would also ask her if she has ever known a defense attorney to make a mistake.
Now she is excited about the defense motion to dispose of the SA. I am going sit here and see if she is going to mention the fact that we ALL now know Baez mis-represented TB and his company's relationship with his firm, and the mis-representation of names, etc.
Especially when this is supposedly a PR firm. How can this PR firm have a legitmate relationship with the media/attorney and most importantly with the DEFENDANT? Casey has relied on him/his company to deal with the media in her name, while the company is acting in an inherently dishonest fashion. I also wonder if she will mention baez being in trouble with the FL Bar over his advertising.
Larkin
01-29-2009, 08:19 PM
She makes my skin crawl......
Glad to hear I'm not alone. :wink:
ConchGirl
01-29-2009, 08:20 PM
Did you really just say that?
Yes, I did. Jose said he was the first Hispanic to have a high profile case. GMAB Don't have the link right now but I will provide it later if necessary. It seems hinky to me that Geraldo seems to be so pro-defense in this case. Is it a conflict of interest? Jose has been a regular guest on Geraldo's Fox show. jmo
Cury-us Coyote
01-29-2009, 08:20 PM
WFTV9 Video
TEAM COVERAGE: Casey Anthony Must Attend Court Hearings
(include Todd Black discussion)
http://www.wftv.com/video/18598060/index.html
Heyes
01-29-2009, 08:20 PM
I think the knife was used to cut the cheese! No really!
She had had huge amounts of Velvetta in that car at one time.
:ohmy: :lol:
too funny tmw!
bchand
01-29-2009, 08:20 PM
I remember that, but for the life of me I can't find it to see IF he was just yakking or was he involved with TB = JB= Casey??? Still looking. :seeya:
See my post #213. He admits he's involved in this case.
chrissybot
01-29-2009, 08:20 PM
Is JVM reading our board???!! HMMM......:glare:
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 08:22 PM
See my post #213. He admits he's involved in this case.
I finally saw it. WTG to you too and Steff.
happygert
01-29-2009, 08:22 PM
She makes my skin crawl......
Can't stand that woman....mo
Mairi II
01-29-2009, 08:23 PM
Wait a minute. I was just watching the video of Casey saying this is the first time she's been angry. WHAT? You haven't been angrier than angry at being accused of murdering your own daughter? IF you didn't do it? OMG. I would be SO angry, I would be spitting tacks from the get-go.
Revenge towards Cindy as a motive? I don't think it was something so sinister. I think Casey's anger towards Cindy precipitated the murder - but I don't think she intended to kill Caylee. I think she struck out at Caylee (and killed her) as a direct result of her anger towards Cindy (and George?).... but I don't think she formed intent. She maybe even strangled her in the heat of the moment (resulting from anger at parents).
She could've avoided ALL of this by just being HONEST. What a concept, huh? She would've had to pay the piper, but it would not've gone to this silly extent. What a twit.
BTW, hi, everyone!! :biggrin:
trich
01-29-2009, 08:24 PM
Says that Baez and Casey failed to pick up the CD with the sightings of Caylee on them. Didn't Baez file a motion just for that right before Caylee was found?
Said TES can't afford for them to do this to them. :wink:
Nejame. :thumbsup:
Don't ya just want to hug him and give him a big fat kiss!
cloe23
01-29-2009, 08:25 PM
There was a knife found in the car, and CA washed it.
I really do not think Casey used it for anything and if she did, it was to cut the duct tape, but I highly doubt that.
I thought that knife to be odd. IMO Casey was eating in the car at times. Hence the empty cheese dip containers.
I used to work with a gal who took a knife with her each Saturday to the grocery store, so on the drive home she could eat some of the things she bought. I guess some of us are sicker then others.
gaelicpeas
01-29-2009, 08:30 PM
I thought that knife to be odd. IMO Casey was eating in the car at times. Hence the empty cheese dip containers.
I used to work with a gal who took a knife with her each Saturday to the grocery store, so on the drive home she could eat some of the things she bought. I guess some of us are sicker then others.Half my silverware is in one of my housemates' cars. I finally wised up and bought some cheap flatware and hid the rest of the stuff.
So, I read in a previous post that Cindy will not be attending tomorrow. Do we have confirmation of that? I am surprised, actually.
JMO
need2no
01-29-2009, 08:30 PM
See my post #213. He admits he's involved in this case.
For a long time I've felt there is some connection between Lenny, Jose and Geraldo. Just my own speculation.
ConchGirl
01-29-2009, 08:31 PM
Wait a minute. I was just watching the video of Casey saying this is the first time she's been angry. WHAT? You haven't been angrier than angry at being accused of murdering your own daughter? IF you didn't do it? OMG. I would be SO angry, I would be spitting tacks from the get-go.
Revenge towards Cindy as a motive? I don't think it was something so sinister. I think Casey's anger towards Cindy precipitated the murder - but I don't think she intended to kill Caylee. I think she struck out at Caylee (and killed her) as a direct result of her anger towards Cindy (and George?).... but I don't think she formed intent. She maybe even strangled her in the heat of the moment (resulting from anger at parents).
She could've avoided ALL of this by just being HONEST. What a concept, huh? She would've had to pay the piper, but it would not've gone to this silly extent. What a twit.
BTW, hi, everyone!! :biggrin:
IF the Anthony's (the entire hand) would tell the truth we wouldn't be trying to guess. jmo
Mairi II
01-29-2009, 08:32 PM
IF the Anthony's (the entire hand) would tell the truth we wouldn't be trying to guess. jmo
I know. :sad: "the entire hand".... hehehehehe. What a stoopid analogy.
?noanswer
01-29-2009, 08:33 PM
I don't think it's the same voice, but it is the same SPIN that TB is using. Selig is linked with Drew Peterson and Blago. Is he linked with this case? I don't know. May be a common trait for those PR types???
If they don't want anyone to know who they are, how to they get any clients. If he & Selig are one in the same or both from the same org., maybe we don't have anything to worry about. Sure did not do anything for Blagojevic!!! We'll have to wait & see on Peterson. Now that I think about DP's Lawyer, he reminds me of JB. JMO
cloe23
01-29-2009, 08:35 PM
Half my silverware is in one of my housemates' cars. I finally wised up and bought some cheap flatware and hid the rest of the stuff.
So, I read in a previous post that Cindy will not be attending tomorrow. Do we have confirmation of that? I am surprised, actually.
JMO
If George was out I bet she would go. Well I guess we all know that none of the A's are invited either by Casey/JB.
Switch to plastic silverware, lol
Heyes
01-29-2009, 08:38 PM
I know. :sad: "the entire hand".... hehehehehe. What a stoopid analogy.
Hey now! I thought it was brilliant! He is a genius! Not to mention his inspiring "you are the boss" speech!. WOW
Had I only had lessons like that growing up I coulda been a contender!
:w00t:
This family never ceases to amaze and humor! In a backwards sort of way.
RiverWalk
01-29-2009, 08:39 PM
If they don't want anyone to know who they are, how to they get any clients. If he & Selig are one in the same or both from the same org., maybe we don't have anything to worry about. Sure did not do anything for Blagojevic!!! We'll have to wait & see on Peterson. Now that I think about DP's Lawyer, he reminds me of JB. JMO
AND they have the same initials. JB
LOL.
bluwaters
01-29-2009, 08:40 PM
For a long time I've felt there is some connection between Lenny, Jose and Geraldo. Just my own speculation.
I think that Geraldo brought Lenny into the picture.
Baez then screwed Lenny over.
jmho
steffaroob4
01-29-2009, 08:40 PM
For a long time I've felt there is some connection between Lenny, Jose and Geraldo. Just my own speculation.
I think you need to work Garrison into that daisy chain, once you do that, I am with you 100%.
Cury-us Coyote
01-29-2009, 08:40 PM
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