Friday, Jan. 23, Part I

[KKKKKKatie]

Here you go....

[chrissybot]

g'morning. TY for new link. I heard about what happened to George. Not sure what to think yet. need some coffee in me 1st.

[NYGalPal]

Thank you for starting this thread.

Wonder if George will want Cindy at the mental facility with him? Maybe this was his way to get away from her?

[KKKKKKatie]

Thank you for starting this thread.

Wonder if George will want Cindy at the mental facility with him? Maybe this was his way to get away from her?

You are both welcome.

Very well could be NY! This whole thing is just such a mess!! :sad:

[really3997]

I am still on the fence about the new events. Guess I have just been fooled before with these people, the fact that Kidfinders guy is at the house well something just isn't sitting right with me. I don't want anyone to take their own life and I am glad that it didn't happen. JMO

[KKKKKKatie]

Today will certainly be eventful. I wonder if we'll see Cindy or Lee visit George, or if they will be no-shows like they are with Caysey.

Cindy must be one upset person because George did not page her. i believe (IMHO) that their relationship is very strained (for many reasons no doubt). It doesn't sound like he texted Lee either (but don't know for sure).

Best,

Not sure we will ever know, for sure, what happened last night. I just hope that they ALL get some help!

[hamebone]

I wonder if reading about the heart sticker and finding out about the laundry hamper liner put him over the edge. Also the Winnie the Pooh blanket. He knows now 100 percent Casey did this. The reality of if all must be one big brick wall they have slammed into.

[NYGalPal]

You are both welcome.

Very well could be NY! This whole thing is just such a mess!! :sad:

Big time mess.

Story coming up on Fox News if anyone is interested.

[KKKKKKatie]

I am still on the fence about the new events. Guess I have just been fooled before with these people, the fact that Kidfinders guy is at the house well something just isn't sitting right with me. I don't want anyone to take their own life and I am glad that it didn't happen. JMO

It amazes me that they have not figured out those people yet. But, I guess I can understand a bit. They are the only ones that went along with the "party line" that Caylee was alive and kidnapped....IMO that is why C & G have hung onto them so long.

[PuffDragon]

I am still on the fence about the new events. Guess I have just been fooled before with these people, the fact that Kidfinders guy is at the house well something just isn't sitting right with me. I don't want anyone to take their own life and I am glad that it didn't happen. JMO

The Kidfinders guy is at the house??? :confused: That's not good, with somebody like that giving Cindy a shoulder she'll be able to shrug off any responsibility she might feel for letting the situation evolve into this mess. :sad:

[really3997]

The Kidfinders guy is at the house??? :confused: That's not good, with somebody like that giving Cindy a shoulder she'll be able to shrug off any responsibility she might feel for letting the situation evolve into this mess. :sad:

I was watching channel 9 when they showed him follow Georges car in the garage. He really had a creepy look on his face. Unfortunately that is why I am not sure this was for real. JMO

[Zeus]

I was watching channel 9 when they showed him follow Georges car in the garage. He really had a creepy look on his face. Unfortunately that is why I am not sure this was for real. JMO

So you think this may have been staged to garner sympathy? Wow You're giving me second thoughts here.

[n/t]

I wonder what meeting he was supposed to have gone to on Thursday afternoon? :confused:

From the link:

His family had grown increasingly concerned when George missed a scheduled meeting Thursday afternoon.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html

[n/t]

I am still on the fence about the new events. Guess I have just been fooled before with these people, the fact that Kidfinders guy is at the house well something just isn't sitting right with me. I don't want anyone to take their own life and I am glad that it didn't happen. JMO


I get what you're saying but it doesn't sound like the Anthonys have too many "friends". Maybe he's the only one they could call. On last night's thread someone posted that Dominic Casey was there too.

[damienstoy]

The report said George contacted two people he knew cared about him... the KF guy might have been one of them. They did seem to get along quite well.

[PuffDragon]

I wonder what meeting he was supposed to have gone to on Thursday afternoon? :confused:

From the link:

His family had grown increasingly concerned when George missed a scheduled meeting Thursday afternoon.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html

It was one of the first links, I will have to go back and find it.

[SavannahStar]

I wonder what meeting he was supposed to have gone to on Thursday afternoon? :confused:

From the link:

His family had grown increasingly concerned when George missed a scheduled meeting Thursday afternoon.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html

I read on one of the links it was a 4:00 meeting with Conway.

[n/t]

I read on one of the links it was a 4:00 meeting with Conway.

Thanks SS. I've only had time to read one link so far.

[NYGalPal]

Who is the male blogger in touch with Cindy? :confused:

[n/t]

So you think this may have been staged to garner sympathy? Wow You're giving me second thoughts here.

Or to get the media focus off the doc dumps?

Personally, I don't think it was staged but I can understand the skepticism.

[5boxersmom]

Just heard it on the Today show now.

[Zeus]

Or to get the media focus off the doc dumps?

Personally, I don't think it was staged but I can understand the skepticism.

Me too. You can never be sure about anything with this family.

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning everyone. Very sad news about george. I wonder what the protocol is for notifying the odious creature and what her reaction will be?

"Why is dad committing suicide already. Matron, can you turn this speaker up......."

The Today Show just reported they found an unfinished suicide note at the motel with george.

Another life destroyed by casey anthony.

[Regina.Lampert]

The report said George contacted two people he knew cared about him... the KF guy might have been one of them. They did seem to get along quite well.

Well we can be certain it wasn't another anthony because they called for help right away and didn't wait 31 days.

[n/t]

More about Mr. Hollywood

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=73801&cat=14

That's all this case needs. A PI with more theories. Like there aren't enough of them out there already. Maybe he should hook up with Leonard Padilla. Good grief.

[Pebbles]

I am still on the fence about the new events. Guess I have just been fooled before with these people, the fact that Kidfinders guy is at the house well something just isn't sitting right with me. I don't want anyone to take their own life and I am glad that it didn't happen. JMO



Good morning everyone.

I have not been on for awhile, we found out a few weeks ago that our youngest grandson is very sick, it is so difficult to go through this again.

I am also someone that is not sure what to think about what happened last night with George. If George is suffering, I hope he decides to face the truth, as difficult as that may be, it is even harder to not accept it. Our family would love to be able to say that our grandson is not sick, but it is not possible, we have to face the truth. Not dealing with it will not make it go away.

I am also wondering if this may be for sympathy. I feel sorry for the A's, but at the same time I have and will always be angry at them for the lies at the expense of little Caylee.

I just want Caylee is receive justice for the suffering she must of went through on her last night on earth. The A's should have done that for Caylee in the very beginning. Trying to get Casey away with murder will not change their suffering in any way, in fact, it would only add to it, they would still have to face the fact that Casey killed their granddaughter.

[n/t]

Good morning everyone. Very sad news about george. I wonder what the protocol is for notifying the odious creature and what her reaction will be?

"Why is dad committing suicide already. Matron, can you turn this speaker up......."

The Today Show just reported they found an unfinished suicide note at the motel with george.

Another life destroyed by casey anthony.

I was thinking the exact same thing, scampi. She's probably ordering up snacks as we speak.

[phredd4]

Someone New Has Entered This Case.

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=73935&cat=14

He needs to use a spell checker!

[SavannahStar]

Thanks SS. I've only had time to read one link so far.

Here's one link it's on.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-012309,0,1615636.story

[NYGalPal]

Someone New Has Entered This Case.

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=73935&cat=14

I just got very emotional reading that. :(

[KKKKKKatie]

Pebbles....your family will be in my prayers

:rose:

[Regina.Lampert]

I was thinking the exact same thing, scampi. She's probably ordering up snacks as we speak.

Yep n/t, won't bother her in the least imo. I still think that last Friday the investigators delivered some very incriminating and devastating news to the anthonys. Perhaps the news of the little red hearts?

Speaking of those hearts, I think that is why so many vacuum cleaners were taken from the home during the search on 12/11. Looking for those red hearts.

Maybe now george will be able to talk freely with someone, come clean and begin cooperating with LE answering all their questions truthfully.
IMO, if he can do that, he is on the way to healing.

[AMS]

Good morning everyone. Very sad news about george. I wonder what the protocol is for notifying the odious creature and what her reaction will be?

"Why is dad committing suicide already. Matron, can you turn this speaker up......."

The Today Show just reported they found an unfinished suicide note at the motel with george.

Another life destroyed by casey anthony.

Her response will be something like: Why would he do that? FGS. I am the victim. Me. Me. Me.

Imo

[Pebbles]

Yep n/t, won't bother her in the least imo. I still think that last Friday the investigators delivered some very incriminating and devastating news to the anthonys. Perhaps the news of the little red hearts?

Speaking of those hearts, I think that is why so many vacuum cleaners were taken from the home during the search on 12/11. Looking for those red hearts.

Maybe now george will be able to talk freely with someone, come clean and begin cooperating with LE answering all their questions truthfully.
IMO, if he can do that, he is on the way to healing.



I bolded your last sentence, because that says it all.



Thank you Katie for your prayers, we need them right now. Thank you so much!

[Regina.Lampert]

Someone New Has Entered This Case.

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=73935&cat=14

What a big, ole trial balloon that entire article is, imo. No jury will buy it, imo.

Thanks Swarvie.

[AMS]

Good morning everyone.

I have not been on for awhile, we found out a few weeks ago that our youngest grandson is very sick, it is so difficult to go through this again.

I am also someone that is not sure what to think about what happened last night with George. If George is suffering, I hope he decides to face the truth, as difficult as that may be, it is even harder to not accept it. Our family would love to be able to say that our grandson is not sick, but it is not possible, we have to face the truth. Not dealing with it will not make it go away.

I am also wondering if this may be for sympathy. I feel sorry for the A's, but at the same time I have and will always be angry at them for the lies at the expense of little Caylee.

I just want Caylee is receive justice for the suffering she must of went through on her last night on earth. The A's should have done that for Caylee in the very beginning. Trying to get Casey away with murder will not change their suffering in any way, in fact, it would only add to it, they would still have to face the fact that Casey killed their granddaughter.


Pebbles, you and your family are in my prayers.

I don't think George would do it for symnpathy. He knows the truth and the guilt is winning. IMO.

[5boxersmom]

Not only is George probably dealing with guilt and all the what ifs. They are also in limbo when it comes to a funeral for Caylee. Baez should release the remains and let them have some type of closure.

jmo


Pebbles :rose:

[AMS]

Yep n/t, won't bother her in the least imo. I still think that last Friday the investigators delivered some very incriminating and devastating news to the anthonys. Perhaps the news of the little red hearts?

Speaking of those hearts, I think that is why so many vacuum cleaners were taken from the home during the search on 12/11. Looking for those red hearts.

Maybe now george will be able to talk freely with someone, come clean and begin cooperating with LE answering all their questions truthfully.
IMO, if he can do that, he is on the way to healing.


If he talks with a psychiatirst and tells them info he knows about the case, is that privleged information because he is talking with his doctor?

[Regina.Lampert]

Her response will be something like: Why would he do that? FGS. I am the victim. Me. Me. Me.

Imo

Isn't that the truth AMS? Her next thought will be, OMG what if daddy starts telling the truth? Wonder how baez is feeling this morning......lol.

[KKKKKKatie]

What a big, ole trial balloon that entire article is, imo. No jury will buy it, imo.

Thanks Swarvie.

He needs to read the docs more closely....he seems to think the heart sticker was on her mouth and then the duct tape over it :rolleyes:

[KKKKKKatie]

If he talks with a psychiatirst and tells them info he knows about the case, is that privleged information because he is talking with his doctor?

I believe so...yes

[?noanswer]

If he talks with a psychiatirst and tells them info he knows about the case, is that privleged information because he is talking with his doctor?


I think it is, but I remember something about the Mendez (?SP) brothers that a medical professional testified against them. I think that was before HIPPA(?). JMO

[PuffDragon]

Someone New Has Entered This Case.

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=73935&cat=14

Sounds like just more hogwash to me. He got the sticker placement wrong too.

[Elle]

"George is OK, thank God," said Conway. "Had it not been for a cooperative effort between Orange County and Volusia County, I don’t know what the outcome would have been. George is now safe." (watch full interview)
http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html

Within mere hours of his disappearance, LE is contacted. George is reported missing

Within a mere 32 days of her disappearance, LE is contacted. Caylee is reported missing... by her grandmother.

I bet Baez is pizzed.





imo

[Regina.Lampert]

If he talks with a psychiatirst and tells them info he knows about the case, is that privleged information because he is talking with his doctor?

I would think so, but any health professional, imo, would urge george anthony to tell LE the truth and cooperate. Unless there is no privilege because he is receiving treatment under the Baker Act?

Let's unleash the lawyers........... :smile:

[?noanswer]

He needs to read the docs more closely....he seems to think the heart sticker was on her mouth and then the duct tape over it :rolleyes:


Another uninformed idjit wanting to get attention. My mouth fell open last night during GVS's interview with S Krause. She didn't know who Melich and Allen were! JMO

[courtsinsession]

Her response will be something like: Why would he do that? FGS. I am the victim. Me. Me. Me.

Imo

she might say "why did he do that TO ME"

[KKKKKKatie]

Another uninformed idjit wanting to get attention. My mouth fell open last night during GVS's interview with S Krause. She didn't know who Melich and Allen were! JMO

I missed it.....she really is not up to speed on this one :thumbdown:

Anything new from Krause?

[RayStar]

Now this story has taken another awful turn. I hope he heals quickly.

[Jeepers]

Yep n/t, won't bother her in the least imo. I still think that last Friday the investigators delivered some very incriminating and devastating news to the anthonys. Perhaps the news of the little red hearts?

Speaking of those hearts, I think that is why so many vacuum cleaners were taken from the home during the search on 12/11. Looking for those red hearts.

Maybe now george will be able to talk freely with someone, come clean and begin cooperating with LE answering all their questions truthfully.
IMO, if he can do that, he is on the way to healing.


Good Morning!
Regina, that is what I am hoping that George will be able to think this out without any influences(cindy) and talk to a mental health person to help sort through all this. George is the weakest link in the House of Anthony and I have held onto to hope that George would be the one to say "enough". Maybe, this is his opportunity to do that.

[KKKKKKatie]

Good Morning!
Regina, that is what I am hoping that George will be able to think this out without any influences(cindy) and talk to a mental health person to help sort through all this. George is the weakest link in the House of Anthony and I have held onto to hope that George would be the one to say "enough". Maybe, this is his opportunity to do that.

I agree Jeepers. Lets hope he can come to terms with all of this and do the right thing!

[Regina.Lampert]

Good Morning!
Regina, that is what I am hoping that George will be able to think this out without any influences(cindy) and talk to a mental health person to help sort through all this. George is the weakest link in the House of Anthony and I have held onto to hope that George would be the one to say "enough". Maybe, this is his opportunity to do that.


Yep Jeep. Was it you who always called george the weakest link in this nightmare? You sure were right.

Right from the beginning, cynthia would not allow george to grieve. Remember her telling him to stop sitting around crying all day? Well, that very bad advice has finally taken its toll, along with other actions, imo.

Being able to finally speak with someone will be such a relief for george, imo. I hope they keep cynthia far, far away from him for at least a few days.

[really3997]

The Block is packed with reporters again.....

[*MoonRider*]

Now this story has taken another awful turn. I hope he heals quickly.

Poor George. I have always had a soft spot for him. He never did seem comfortable playing the game. I think he needs to stay away from Cindy, Lee, Brad and Dennis for a while so he can think for himself and heal. The pressure must be enormous and he needs to be true to himself. JMO

[Regina.Lampert]

The Block is packed with reporters again.....

Oh boy.....

The Today Show reported that conway was going to have a statement, maybe that's why.

[PuffDragon]

He needs to use a spell checker!

Yes, I noticed that too. :rolleyes:

[Jeepers]

I am glad they found George and he is safe.

It is funny that LE of Orange County are the good guys at the moment. Was not too long ago that they were just out to get Casey and not to be trusted.

I bet Casey will be pizzed to know George is stealing her thunder.
I am a victim tooooooooooooo What about
meeeee.

I bet she orders a double bag of pork skins.

[floridamom]

George has been the only one that i feel has been straight with LE all along. He may Twist the truth abit in interviews with the media....but Cindy is always at his side when he does that. When she is not there he is straight up. He has no one to help him because the rest of them are still falling for KC's crap. I hope he will get s compassionate doctor or counselor to talk to in the hospital who will help him do what he has known all along to be the right thing...stand up for Caylee. I hope they keep Cinday away from him for the 72 hours....he surely could use a break and maybe he can clear his head and see the light.
God Please watch over Cylee and George.

[PuffDragon]

<snipped to address>

Maybe now george will be able to talk freely with someone, come clean and begin cooperating with LE answering all their questions truthfully.
IMO, if he can do that, he is on the way to healing.

I think he also needs to get away from Cindy.

[AMS]

Caylee Anthony story: TV asks why did George Anthony crack now?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/01/casey-anthony-case-why-did-george-anthony-crack-now.html

[really3997]

Oh boy.....

The Today Show reported that conway was going to have a statement, maybe that's why.

Ok, I will wait and see what he says but I am having a real hard time believing this is not for some purpose that we will find out at later date.

These are the people that has called the public

Simple minded
Narrow minded
Single minded
and finally

Ignorant

But I will say I am glad LE took this on and he is alive.

jmo

[Jeepers]

Yes, I always thought George was the only one that was honest and had a conscience. His interviews were so painful to watch. I felt at times he could not take it and would just say the truth but he never did.The interview he gave about someone being Caylee's Knight in Shinning Armour. I thought George could have been her knight but, on LKL he dashed my hopes of him stopping this nightmare.
Maybe now he will have to stop it for his sake. He could not do it for Caylee.

[trich]

g'morning. TY for new link. I heard about what happened to George. Not sure what to think yet. need some coffee in me 1st.

Personally I think it is another sign that this family can not come to terms with what their daughter did.
Maybe he has finally had to admit to the reality of the situation.
But I don't for a minute think he was going to kill himself.
He may have been just trying to take the focus off Casey and
played on the public's sympathy.
Who knows....considering they say he had no weapons on him
I don't believe he would have tried suicide.
Actually this may all be a way to take away his credibility if he is called to testify to what he really knows concerning Casey's guilt.

[NYGalPal]

Caylee Anthony story: TV asks why did George Anthony crack now?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/01/casey-anthony-case-why-did-george-anthony-crack-now.html

Wonder if the As were told "no immunity for you"? :confused:

[Jeepers]

George has been the only one that i feel has been straight with LE all along. He may Twist the truth abit in interviews with the media....but Cindy is always at his side when he does that. When she is not there he is straight up. He has no one to help him because the rest of them are still falling for KC's crap. I hope he will get s compassionate doctor or counselor to talk to in the hospital who will help him do what he has known all along to be the right thing...stand up for Caylee. I hope they keep Cinday away from him for the 72 hours....he surely could use a break and maybe he can clear his head and see the light.
God Please watch over Cylee and George.

Good morning Floridamom,
I totally agree, Cindy is toxic to George. Cindy is just plain Toxic.
I am hoping that Cindy is kept away and George will think this through with some help.
Then if I was George I would run like the wind and get as far away as possible from Cindy.

[Zeus]

Ok, I will wait and see what he says but I am having a real hard time believing this is not for some purpose that we will find out at later date.

These are the people that has called the public

Simple minded
Narrow minded
Single minded
and finally

Ignorant

But I will say I am glad LE took this on and he is alive.

jmo

I'm glad he's alive too. If he considered suicide because his Grand Daughter is dead and he knows his Daughter killed her and knowing that pushed him to the point of wanting to take his life, we should all have sympathy for him.

However, if he considered suicide because his Grand Daughter is dead and he feels his Daughter is being unjustly accused of killing her, then I don't know what.

[*MoonRider*]

Yes, I always thought George was the only one that was honest and had a conscience. His interviews were so painful to watch. I felt at times he could not take it and would just say the truth but he never did.The interview he gave about someone being Caylee's Knight in Shinning Armour. I thought George could have been her knight but, on LKL he dashed my hopes of him stopping this nightmare.
Maybe now he will have to stop it for his sake. He could not do it for Caylee.

I'm sure the Anthony's learned about the duct tape and heart at the same time we did. Needless to say, how disturbed we were when those facts came to light so one can only imagine how difficult it was for him. I wish Casey would plead guilty and put an end to this nightmare. JMO

[apothecary]

just yesterday I posted that I thought George would do something like this because being ex LE he knows the consequences of his actions and I think he feels that he has nothing to live for.Perhaps finally someone will begin to tell the truth and this case will be resolved.I think the money has also dried up and Biaz has control of future moneys

[floridamom]

Good morning Floridamom,
I totally agree, Cindy is toxic to George. Cindy is just plain Toxic.
I am hoping that Cindy is kept away and George will think this through with some help.
Then if I was George I would run like the wind and get as far away as possible from Cindy.

Good Morning to you Jeepers!
I wish it was a good morning for George. I agree with you. He needs to get away from Cindy. I have a hard time understanding why so many people are bashing him today of all days. The guy is in an impossible situation. Even though Cindy really runs this family...you gotta think that George being the Father-Leader- of this family, he must feel he has failed terribly. A dead grandaughter, murdered by his own daughter, financial problems up the wazoo, and everyone in america critisizing everything he does. I don't know if I could tak eit either. God Bless him an help him through this desparate time in his life.

[chrissybot]

Personally I think it is another sign that this family can not come to terms with what their daughter did.
Maybe he has finally had to admit to the reality of the situation.
But I don't for a minute think he was going to kill himself.
He may have been just trying to take the focus off Casey and
played on the public's sympathy.
Who knows....considering they say he had no weapons on him
I don't believe he would have tried suicide.
Actually this may all be a way to take away his credibility if he is called to testify to what he really knows concerning Casey's guilt.
trich, I am also leaning towards this. ITA

[snowflakes]

Personally I think it is another sign that this family can not come to terms with what their daughter did.
Maybe he has finally had to admit to the reality of the situation.
But I don't for a minute think he was going to kill himself.
He may have been just trying to take the focus off Casey and
played on the public's sympathy.
Who knows....considering they say he had no weapons on him
I don't believe he would have tried suicide.
Actually this may all be a way to take away his credibility if he is called to testify to what he really knows concerning Casey's guilt.


If George had really wanted to kill himself he would have turned off his phone and taken his gun and just shot himself. I think he had no intention of doing that.
I think this was a major cry for help and hopefully he now has it. Poor George.

[ellegna]

respectfully snipped


Maybe now george will be able to talk freely with someone, come clean and begin cooperating with LE answering all their questions truthfully.
IMO, if he can do that, he is on the way to healing.

I truly hope your right :sad:
What's so sad is this was not George's first cry for help. I thought I saved the link but didn't. Does anyone recall the interview George did in the summer where he admitted he contemplated suicide?

[Regina.Lampert]

If George had really wanted to kill himself he would have turned off his phone and taken his gun and just shot himself. I think he had no intention of doing that.
I think this was a major cry for help and hopefully he now has it. Poor George.

Snow, I just noted the samething on the other thread. It's going to be interesting to learn what his partial suicide note said, if we ever do. I'm glad he is getting the help he so desperately needs.

[farrahrani]

she might say "why did he do that TO ME"

:beer:

Nobody said it better.

[desmom]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/23/george_anthony_found_hospitalized_in_daytona_beach .html

# 8:05 a.m.: A Halifax spokeswoman says George Anthony is being stabilized in the emergency room in preparation for sending him to a room for medical observation.
# 7:41 a.m.: The corrections jail staff has been informed of George Anthony's status. Casey is not under any special supervision
# 7:41 a.m.: The Anthony family investigator, Dominic Casey, left the Anthony home in Orlando.
# 7:39 a.m.: A Halifax Hospital spokeswoman says in addition to the psychological observation, George Anthony is also facing medical issues, but because of privacy laws she could not be specific.

More time line at the link above.

[bluwaters]

I'm glad he's alive too. If he considered suicide because his Grand Daughter is dead and he knows his Daughter killed her and knowing that pushed him to the point of wanting to take his life, we should all have sympathy for him.

However, if he considered suicide because his Grand Daughter is dead and he feels his Daughter is being unjustly accused of killing her, then I don't know what.

I think that if George is truly suicidal, then sympathy is in order. Period.

We have heard this from George before. I believe that is the true reason behind the gun that LE removed from the home when Casey was out of jail on bail.

I also believe that George is a very smooth con man.

At any rate, this gets him away from Cindy for a while. Perhaps he will be able to think clearly for once.

[?noanswer]

Personally I think it is another sign that this family can not come to terms with what their daughter did.
Maybe he has finally had to admit to the reality of the situation.
But I don't for a minute think he was going to kill himself.
He may have been just trying to take the focus off Casey and
played on the public's sympathy.
Who knows....considering they say he had no weapons on him
I don't believe he would have tried suicide.
Actually this may all be a way to take away his credibility if he is called to testify to what he really knows concerning Casey's guilt.

I don't mean to be ugly with this question, but if G did commit suicide, could his interviews with LE and FBI be introduced as evidence. I have seen TV shows where information from people who died was not allowed, but I don't know if those were sworn statements. JMO

[Lavenia]

Someone New Has Entered This Case.

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=73935&cat=14

I think someone dropped "Mr. Hollywood" on his head.

[desmom]

I truly hope your right :sad:
What's so sad is this was not George's first cry for help. I thought I saved the link but didn't. Does anyone recall the interview George did in the summer where he admitted he contemplated suicide?


Not sure of the date: http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=georgeanthony_101620081107&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20Speaks

LE removed a gun from George's car in September: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,418161,00.html

[~layla~]

Snow, I just noted the samething on the other thread. It's going to be interesting to learn what his partial suicide note said, if we ever do. I'm glad he is getting the help he so desperately needs.

What are the chances we get to see those partial notes? Im thinking none. If they dont charge him, it wont become public record .... right?

[Regina.Lampert]

Wonder if the As were told "no immunity for you"? :confused:

Last night, after The Amazing Grace unleashed her lawyers, all of them agreed that the Prosecution does not need the anthonys to convict the defendant, no immunity for any of them was the concensus.

[PuffDragon]

I'm glad he's alive too. If he considered suicide because his Grand Daughter is dead and he knows his Daughter killed her and knowing that pushed him to the point of wanting to take his life, we should all have sympathy for him.

However, if he considered suicide because his Grand Daughter is dead and he feels his Daughter is being unjustly accused of killing her, then I don't know what.

*Bolding mine

No. He knows what she did. He's known all along. Just following his behavior from the beginning, you can see his demeanor change as the truth became unavoidable. He knew from the beginning and hoped he was wrong. But he knew just the same.
I have had sympathy for him all along. He has a bully for a wife and a bully for a daughter and he couldn't escape them any other way.

JMO of course.

[Regina.Lampert]

I'm glad he's alive too. If he considered suicide because his Grand Daughter is dead and he knows his Daughter killed her and knowing that pushed him to the point of wanting to take his life, we should all have sympathy for him.

However, if he considered suicide because his Grand Daughter is dead and he feels his Daughter is being unjustly accused of killing her, then I don't know what.

It's going to be interesting to hear how conway spins this, imo.

[*MoonRider*]

I truly hope your right :sad:
What's so sad is this was not George's first cry for help. I thought I saved the link but didn't. Does anyone recall the interview George did in the summer where he admitted he contemplated suicide?

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=georgeanthony_101620081107&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20Speaks

[Motomom]

I truly hope your right :sad:
What's so sad is this was not George's first cry for help. I thought I saved the link but didn't. Does anyone recall the interview George did in the summer where he admitted he contemplated suicide?

I remember ellegna. Imagine waking up to a thread titled George MIssing.. I thought it was a joke at first. I feel terribly for George. I cannot imagine wanting to live after getting the disturbing facts we were given. I imagine it is a million times worse for them reading/hearing those facts. Heck, it caused me a heavy pain in my chest and I'm only 34, far removed from this case, having never laid eyes on an alive Caylee.. I can't imagine what the Anthony's are thinking right about now. It's impossible for me to put myself in their shoes even for a minute. I look at my own daughters laughing and playing and worry, could one of them turn out like Casey? It's scary. Sorry I rambled on.. I hope George gets help and cindy too. He could be some how trying to protect Cindy with his lies. Remember when he was discussing the smell of the car with LE or FBI and how Cindy said to him, it's the pizza right George and he said yeah, knowing full well it was not pizza causing that odor. He knew it when he said it to her and knew it at that interview. He also had mentioned something else.. and now it's slipped my mind.. Oh about wanting to prepare Cindy if they found anything cause this would kill her..sometimes the strong is actually the weak and vice versa. Very sad for them. Heck I can't get the imagine of Caylee with ducttape across her mouth and i can't get over the sick thought that Casey somehow decorated her, with even just a sticker. My mind has been on it nonstop. We love our children, we dont' kill them and we don't put heartshaped stickers over the ducttape we've put on their mouths to what?? Make them look "cute" in death? that's what I'm not getting.. a sign of love?? After you murdered her, a sign of love..not buying that either. IMO it is something a serial killer would do.. and maybe that is what Casey would have turned into..or maybe I read too much about serial killers.. sorry for using up so much space with this thread..

[PuffDragon]

Good Morning to you Jeepers!
I wish it was a good morning for George. I agree with you. He needs to get away from Cindy. I have a hard time understanding why so many people are bashing him today of all days. The guy is in an impossible situation. Even though Cindy really runs this family...you gotta think that George being the Father-Leader- of this family, he must feel he has failed terribly. A dead grandaughter, murdered by his own daughter, financial problems up the wazoo, and everyone in america critisizing everything he does. I don't know if I could tak eit either. God Bless him an help him through this desparate time in his life.

And don't forget: being isolated in the house with Cindy. He probably couldn't stand to even look at her any more.

[?noanswer]

Last night, after The Amazing Grace unleashed her lawyers, all of them agreed that the Prosecution does not need the anthonys to convict the defendant, no immunity for any of them was the concensus.

I heard them say that. My ? is can they use the taped interviews with LE & FBI as evidence. Also do you think JB would be ______ to call them as a witness?

Just the other day, they were all agreeing, if they were subpoenaed, they would automatically get use? immunity, which meant that anything they testified to could not be used against them. There was another type of immunity that was discussed (don't remember legal term) and if they gave them that then they could not be charged period. JMO

[floridamom]

Think about how all of us have fallen in love with Caylee. We didn't even know her. Gearge was her Grandpa. He said repeatedly..He only wanted the best for that little girl. His daughter is a physco, his wife is delusional, the jury is still out on Lee. He lost his sunshine, the light of his life when Caylee died. He deserves this breakdown, I for one can not see how he has held up this long. Maybe he knew this was his only way to get away and get a llitte peace...time to think for himself without wifey, lawyers, media, etc. I think he needs his privacy and some quiet time to reflect. I believe he will come out of this on the right side of the situation. I think he will testify, as impossible as that will be, but he knows it is the right thing. His life is over as he has known it...hopefully when this is over he can regroup and maybe he will join Tim miller and make something positive come out of all this.

[NYGalPal]

Last night, after The Amazing Grace unleashed her lawyers, all of them agreed that the Prosecution does not need the anthonys to convict the defendant, no immunity for any of them was the concensus.

Well they shouldn't get it. I'll have to read the transcripts from last night. Thanks for the info my friend.

TGIF!!

[Regina.Lampert]

I truly hope your right :sad:
What's so sad is this was not George's first cry for help. I thought I saved the link but didn't. Does anyone recall the interview George did in the summer where he admitted he contemplated suicide?


Hiya Ell, you're right and remember cynthia threatened suicide to her Mother, saying the only thing that stopped her was:
Caylee!

[Daffodil]

Someone New Has Entered This Case.

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=73935&cat=14

Didn't read the whole article ......but throwing out that a pedophile could have done this..........just plain old garbage. That sounds like the defense trying to throw another theory out there to be tested.

[ellegna]

Not sure of the date: http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=georgeanthony_101620081107&cat=Local&title=George%20Anthony%20Speaks

LE removed a gun from George's car in September: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,418161,00.html


Thank you. That's it

[5boxersmom]

I remember ellegna. Imagine waking up to a thread titled George MIssing.. I thought it was a joke at first. I feel terribly for George. I cannot imagine wanting to live after getting the disturbing facts we were given. I imagine it is a million times worse for them reading/hearing those facts. Heck, it caused me a heavy pain in my chest and I'm only 34, far removed from this case, having never laid eyes on an alive Caylee.. I can't imagine what the Anthony's are thinking right about now. It's impossible for me to put myself in their shoes even for a minute. I look at my own daughters laughing and playing and worry, could one of them turn out like Casey? It's scary. Sorry I rambled on.. I hope George gets help and cindy too. He could be some how trying to protect Cindy with his lies. Remember when he was discussing the smell of the car with LE or FBI and how Cindy said to him, it's the pizza right George and he said yeah, knowing full well it was not pizza causing that odor. He knew it when he said it to her and knew it at that interview. He also had mentioned something else.. and now it's slipped my mind.. Oh about wanting to prepare Cindy if they found anything cause this would kill her..sometimes the strong is actually the weak and vice versa. Very sad for them. Heck I can't get the imagine of Caylee with ducttape across her mouth and i can't get over the sick thought that Casey somehow decorated her, with even just a sticker. My mind has been on it nonstop. We love our children, we dont' kill them and we don't put heartshaped stickers over the ducttape we've put on their mouths to what?? Make them look "cute" in death? that's what I'm not getting.. a sign of love?? After you murdered her, a sign of love..not buying that either. IMO it is something a serial killer would do.. and maybe that is what Casey would have turned into..or maybe I read too much about serial killers.. sorry for using up so much space with this thread..

In so many of the pictures of Caylee that is what you see if you think about. Casey dressed her up like a doll or something.

jmo

[Motomom]

Didn't read the whole article ......but throwing out that a pedophile could have done this..........just plain old garbage. That sounds like the defense trying to throw another theory out there to be tested.

Yeah, that's what it sounds like to me.. or someone else hired this guy to get out all the possible defenses he could so Baez would see how ridiculous it all sounds.

[5boxersmom]

Didn't read the whole article ......but throwing out that a pedophile could have done this..........just plain old garbage. That sounds like the defense trying to throw another theory out there to be tested.

ITA. How did Caylee get in the trunk of Casey's car then?

jmo

[Daffodil]

More about Mr. Hollywood

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=73801&cat=14

Looks like someone new jumped on the bandwagon....wants publicity and $$$$$$

[trich]

Didn't read the whole article ......but throwing out that a pedophile could have done this..........just plain old garbage. That sounds like the defense trying to throw another theory out there to be tested.


boy this is so much worse then the Laci Peterson case....I don't know where all these weirdos are coming from.
But that ought to tell you that the whole world is aware of this crime and it would not matter where they held the trial.

[KKKKKKatie]

ITA. How did Caylee get in the trunk of Casey's car then?

jmo

she was framed...don't you know? :rolleyes:

[Motomom]

In so many of the pictures of Caylee that is what you see if you think about. Casey dressed her up like a doll or something.

jmo

Well little girls like to dress up, some more than others. New moms, young moms like to put sunglass on their children (I did at one time) and make them look cute. I dont' see anything odd or out of sinc with something like that in regards to a little girl. This just seems so much different. I don't know.. aside from the disturbing nature of the whole thing.. I just wish I could get the image out of my mind because it leads to a bunch of questions we'll never know.. and I hate to be morbid or bring anyone else down but it would be important to me to know whether her eyes were closed or not and obviously we'll never know that.. but that's just one more thing that bothers me. Was Casey cold enough to be laughing at this child as she struggled to breath? Such a disturbing case and will take a very long time to get those images and thoughts out of my head completely.

[Jeepers]

Good Morning to you Jeepers!
I wish it was a good morning for George. I agree with you. He needs to get away from Cindy. I have a hard time understanding why so many people are bashing him today of all days. The guy is in an impossible situation. Even though Cindy really runs this family...you gotta think that George being the Father-Leader- of this family, he must feel he has failed terribly. A dead grandaughter, murdered by his own daughter, financial problems up the wazoo, and everyone in america critisizing everything he does. I don't know if I could tak eit either. God Bless him an help him through this desparate time in his life.

That is so true, You know he feels like a failure. Times are bad for so many people just living day to day. Losing their homes and jobs can drive people to do the unthinkable things. Prayers for George and for his doctors that help guide him through this.

I cannot believe that Casey can take watching her mother cry and her father just sitting there at a loss in those videos. She is so heartless.
If Casey has one ounce of compassion or any remorse about Caylee she could not sit and watch her parents struggle.

I cannot stand seeing anyone cry especially my mom. I joke about her all the time being mean and hard nosed but, she raised my brother and me with a lot of love and no nonsense. She did not have time for it. It took all of us pulling together, no room to step outta line. I posted yesterday my cousins call her Little Hitler but her heart is as big as the sky but she can pull a thunder storm out of her... in a New York minute.

[desmom]

George Anthony being stabilized in ER
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8299251&version=29&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Daytona Beach Police Chief Michael Chitwood said George sent text messages to his family that he wanted to end his life. Chitwood said George told him that there was a lot of pressure on him and he needed to think.

George was Baker Acted, or involuntarily taken to Halifax Medical Center. He was personally driven to the hospital by the police chief.

No drugs or weapons were found inside his room at the Hawaii Motel on South Atlantic Avenue early Friday morning.

George had other items with him at the hotel but the details of those items are not being released. They are being turned over to the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

"We do know George Anthony is saying I don't want to live anymore," Chitwood said.

ETA ~ Why are the "other items" being turned over to OCSO?

[Pomme]

I think if I were Caylee's grandfather (or grandmother) and I had to wake up every morning knowing she was gone for good, picturing her disintegrating into bones like so much garbage in a bag, with duct tape and a heart sticker over her mouth, for the rest of my life - I'd want to kill myself too.

It would be unbearable.

[jammies]

Why is Cindy getting blamed for GA's problems? At any point he could have left. I think it's despicable that he would do this to HER!

Sorry, I feel terrible for all of them but GA is a big boy and blaming Cindy is just ridiculous. At any point he could have said ENOUGH, STOP THE CHARADE! Told the ENTIRE truth and let the chips fall where they may.

Having said that, my prayers go out to both of them no matter WHAT they did or didn't do. They didn't kill Caylee.

[?noanswer]

That is so true, You know he feels like a failure. Times are bad for so many people just living day to day. Losing their homes and jobs can drive people to do the unthinkable things. Prayers for George and for his doctors that help guide him through this.



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I just wonder how close G & C are to loosing their home. They also have nice vehicles. Hope they are paid for. If not, they have tremendous monthly bills. I would imagine their cell phones bills are just about as high as Casey's were. Add in utilities, groceries, insurance and just ordinary day to day expenses and the total would be high. Even if they received the $200,000 for photos, they had signed a $50,000 promissory note to get KC's last bail. I'm just glad I'm not in their shoes in many ways, especially the loss of their granddaughter and knowing that their daughter is responsible. JMO

[playnice]

Or leave enough decomp in the backyard for the dogs to pickup on? Or decomp on Casey's pants? Oh, must be your friendly neighborhood pedo....

I think Casey dug a hole so deep God couldnt get her out of this one. I believe Caylees vioce will be heard.
I believe they have enough evidence to put her away for life.
I agree with what Susan Moss said last night.
She would be going to the prosecutor trying to get the best deal she could for her client.

[Lavenia]

I think if I were Caylee's grandfather (or grandmother) and I had to wake up every morning knowing she was gone for good, picturing her disintegrating into bones like so much garbage in a bag, with duct tape and a heart sticker over her mouth, for the rest of my life - I'd want to kill myself too.

It would be unbearable.

There you are. :wink:

I think I would agree. I would *think* I would "hang around" to help my other child, (Lee), navigate life, but who knows? The Anthony House of Pain.

[?noanswer]

I think if I were Caylee's grandfather (or grandmother) and I had to wake up every morning knowing she was gone for good, picturing her disintegrating into bones like so much garbage in a bag, with duct tape and a heart sticker over her mouth, for the rest of my life - I'd want to kill myself too.

It would be unbearable.

I agree. JMO

[Pebbles]

It's going to be interesting to hear how conway spins this, imo.

In an interview with WFTV-Channel 9's Daralene Jones, Brad Conway, attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, blamed George's problems on stress. "He lost his granddaughter and now he may very well lose his own daughter," Jones said.


Regina, Conway goes right back to blaming George's suicide attempt on the fact George did this because he my lose his own daughter. So what does Conway want us to do, let Casey go free? Will that make George and Cindy stop suffering?

I hope this is a wake up call for George, he needs help and hopefully George will accept the doctor's help and this was not just a cover up to protect Casey and turn anger into sympathy for her and her family before she goes to trial.

Could this suicide attempt be used by the defense during the trial to get sympathy for the A's?

[Jeepers]

Think about how all of us have fallen in love with Caylee. We didn't even know her. Gearge was her Grandpa. He said repeatedly..He only wanted the best for that little girl. His daughter is a physco, his wife is delusional, the jury is still out on Lee. He lost his sunshine, the light of his life when Caylee died. He deserves this breakdown, I for one can not see how he has held up this long. Maybe he knew this was his only way to get away and get a llitte peace...time to think for himself without wifey, lawyers, media, etc. I think he needs his privacy and some quiet time to reflect. I believe he will come out of this on the right side of the situation. I think he will testify, as impossible as that will be, but he knows it is the right thing. His life is over as he has known it...hopefully when this is over he can regroup and maybe he will join Tim miller and make something positive come out of all this.

Very well written, promising thoughts and hope for his future.

In God I Trust amen

[floridamom]

I agree. My mom was a softy and dad a Hard nose. I never really got in trouble as a kid for 2 reasons....1) I didn't want to see mom cry and 2) I didn't want Dad to kill me. Dad is a Homicide Detective...Guess what...you can't pull anything over his eyes! I never got away with anything. He never "assumed" the teacher was lying and I was telling the truth. He always held us accountable for all of our actions. He truly is a great man. I thank God everyday that he was my moral guide. I am trying to follow his lead with my kids. Love them, support them, but make them live with the consequences of their actions...always. My little brother at about age 4, took some little knob from the hardware store. When mom found it in the wash, it was straight back to the store with me in tow also. He made my brother confess, apologize and we both recieved a huge lecture about right and wrong. He never stopped teaching us these concepts...he still does today. I wish casey could have learned that from her Dad.

[?noanswer]

In an interview with WFTV-Channel 9's Daralene Jones, Brad Conway, attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, blamed George's problems on stress. "He lost his granddaughter and now he may very well lose his own daughter," Jones said.


Regina, Conway goes right back to blaming George's suicide attempt on the fact George did this because he my lose his own daughter. So what does Conway want us to, let Casey go free? Will that make George and Cindy stop suffering?

I hope this is a wake up call for George, he needs help and hopefully George will accept their help and this was not just a cover up to protect Casey and turn anger into sympathy for her and her family before she goes to trail.

Could this suicide attempt be used by the defense during the trial to get sympathy for the A's?

Even if they said "This is so stressful on the family, we are dropping all charges against KC", the stress would not be gone. They would have to live with her and the fact that Caylee is dead. They were dealt a double blow. It is bad enough to lose a family member, no matter how, but to have another member be responsible would be unbearable. JMO

[Januarybaby]

One of two things could be going on with GA&CA.

One, GA is consumed with guilt by knowing his daughter did this to his grandaughter and cannot handle it anymore

or

THis is an attention getter to get focus off Casey for awhile and maybe they figure in front of a jury, he lost his grandaughter, if he loses his daughter he will commit suicide so we need to feel sorry for him and not sentence her to LWOP or DP.


With the Anthonys, you never know. Its hard to sort it out with them. This family sure loves the drama tho.

[Pebbles]

think about how all of us have fallen in love with caylee. We didn't even know her. Gearge was her grandpa. He said repeatedly..he only wanted the best for that little girl. His daughter is a physco, his wife is delusional, the jury is still out on lee. He lost his sunshine, the light of his life when caylee died. He deserves this breakdown, i for one can not see how he has held up this long. Maybe he knew this was his only way to get away and get a llitte peace...time to think for himself without wifey, lawyers, media, etc. I think he needs his privacy and some quiet time to reflect. I believe he will come out of this on the right side of the situation. I think he will testify, as impossible as that will be, but he knows it is the right thing. His life is over as he has known it...hopefully when this is over he can regroup and maybe he will join tim miller and make something positive come out of all this.




ita.......

[spiritwolf46]

Think about how all of us have fallen in love with Caylee. We didn't even know her. Gearge was her Grandpa. He said repeatedly..He only wanted the best for that little girl. His daughter is a physco, his wife is delusional, the jury is still out on Lee. He lost his sunshine, the light of his life when Caylee died. He deserves this breakdown, I for one can not see how he has held up this long. Maybe he knew this was his only way to get away and get a llitte peace...time to think for himself without wifey, lawyers, media, etc. I think he needs his privacy and some quiet time to reflect. I believe he will come out of this on the right side of the situation. I think he will testify, as impossible as that will be, but he knows it is the right thing. His life is over as he has known it...hopefully when this is over he can regroup and maybe he will join Tim miller and make something positive come out of all this.


This is wonderfully written, Floridamom. Great post!

[NYGalPal]

Time to head out. Keep up the good work everyone. :thumbsup:

[jammies]

I agree. My mom was a softy and dad a Hard nose. I never really got in trouble as a kid for 2 reasons....1) I didn't want to see mom cry and 2) I didn't want Dad to kill me. Dad is a Homicide Detective...Guess what...you can't pull anything over his eyes! I never got away with anything. He never "assumed" the teacher was lying and I was telling the truth. He always held us accountable for all of our actions. He truly is a great man. I thank God everyday that he was my moral guide. I am trying to follow his lead with my kids. Love them, support them, but make them live with the consequences of their actions...always. My little brother at about age 4, took some little knob from the hardware store. When mom found it in the wash, it was straight back to the store with me in tow also. He made my brother confess, apologize and we both recieved a huge lecture about right and wrong. He never stopped teaching us these concepts...he still does today. I wish casey could have learned that from her Dad.


Are you my sister? This is my parents to a tee except my father was a teacher.

[desmom]

Anyone have any ideas what items were found in the hotel room with George and why the items were turned over to Orange County Sheriff's Office? TIA

[Lavenia]

This is wonderfully written, Floridamom. Great post!

I agree...............

[playnice]

Anyone have any ideas what items were found in the hotel room with George and why the items were turned over to Orange County Sheriff's Office? TIA


Confession? Not that he did it but what he knows? Or am I dreaming?

[PuffDragon]

Why is Cindy getting blamed for GA's problems? At any point he could have left. I think it's despicable that he would do this to HER!

Sorry, I feel terrible for all of them but GA is a big boy and blaming Cindy is just ridiculous. At any point he could have said ENOUGH, STOP THE CHARADE! Told the ENTIRE truth and let the chips fall where they may.

Having said that, my prayers go out to both of them no matter WHAT they did or didn't do. They didn't kill Caylee.

*Bolding mine

You would have to have lived in (or close to) a family with this kind of dynamic to understand. If someone has the cojones to not be bullied he wouldn't be in that situation in the first place. Once he gave up his autonomy he had none left to make the kind of a life-altering decision that involves a physical separation. The only other option is to get away either by an emotional or mental withdrawal or by dying.

Whether or not that's where George was, whether or not Cindy put him there, it's a fact of life that it happens. Would you be as unbending with a battered woman, would you be one of those to castigate her for not leaving? There is physical battering and there is emotional battering and perhaps the emotional battering is harder to live with because it leaves no obvious marks. George is obviously in pain, can't you cut him a little slack, if for nothing else but that?

[Pomme]

I wouldn't think Baez would have any response to George's actions yesterday. However, I didn't think he'd have the reaction he did to the heart sticker release - a pc about himself? Who knows what will crawl out of his mouth next?

[Zeus]

Confession? Not that he did it but what he knows? Or am I dreaming?

Good guess!! But I think you're dreaming. I could pinch you but I don't want to get in trouble.

[Neffy]

A 4pm meeting with Conway was avoided?

George knew they'd be looking for him at least starting at 4pm.

[Januarybaby]

In an interview with WFTV-Channel 9's Daralene Jones, Brad Conway, attorney for George and Cindy Anthony, blamed George's problems on stress. "He lost his granddaughter and now he may very well lose his own daughter," Jones said.


Regina, Conway goes right back to blaming George's suicide attempt on the fact George did this because he my lose his own daughter. So what does Conway want us to do, let Casey go free? Will that make George and Cindy stop suffering?
I hope this is a wake up call for George, he needs help and hopefully George will accept the doctor's help and this was not just a cover up to protect Casey and turn anger into sympathy for her and her family before she goes to trial.
Could this suicide attempt be used by the defense during the trial to get sympathy for the A's?


I apologize if I seem heartless, but I do not feel sorry for any of them.
They brought everything on themselves. If they didnt lie and do the things they did, this case would have been easier, they would have been under less scrutiny and people would have left them alone by now.
They raised Casey to be what she is, and now they are living with it. If they didnt do the things they did and made Casey a responsible adult, they would still have a grandaughter and their daughter wouldnt be in prison.

They have played one too many games for me to believe anything that comes out of their mouths and their actions speak louder than words.

My guess is its a game now on how to get the focus off Casey because with the new evidence they have to do something to save her knowing they cannot just dispute it anymore. There is way too much evidence now to say anyone other than Casey did this and how her parents are trying to get their murderous daughter off to let her go free.

[Elle]

Why is Cindy getting blamed for GA's problems? At any point he could have left. I think it's despicable that he would do this to HER!

Sorry, I feel terrible for all of them but GA is a big boy and blaming Cindy is just ridiculous. At any point he could have said ENOUGH, STOP THE CHARADE! Told the ENTIRE truth and let the chips fall where they may.

Having said that, my prayers go out to both of them no matter WHAT they did or didn't do. They didn't kill Caylee.

I completely agree.

[?noanswer]

Anyone have any ideas what items were found in the hotel room with George and why the items were turned over to Orange County Sheriff's Office? TIA

The only thing I have seen is what they said they did NOT find - gun & drugs. JMO

[playnice]

Good guess!! But I think you're dreaming. I could pinch you but I don't want to get in trouble.


Its ok. You can hammer . I know the likelyhood of the truth coming out from any of the A's is next to nil.

[klock777]

I wonder what meeting he was supposed to have gone to on Thursday afternoon? :confused:

From the link:

His family had grown increasingly concerned when George missed a scheduled meeting Thursday afternoon.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html


Their attorney - BC. - at 4:30

[~layla~]

ironic, bullying is being discussed on FOX news this morning. :unsure:

[Destini]

Anyone have any ideas what items were found in the hotel room with George and why the items were turned over to Orange County Sheriff's Office? TIA

5:09 a.m.: Chitwood said a note was found in the room with Anthony. He would not elaborate on what the note said, but that it had been sent to the Orange County Sheriff's Office.


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/23/george_anthony_found_hospitalized_in_daytona_beach .html

[?noanswer]

I apologize if I seem heartless, but I do not feel sorry for any of them.
They brought everything on themselves. If they didnt lie and do the things they did, this case would have been easier, they would have been under less scrutiny and people would have left them alone by now.
They raised Casey to be what she is, and now they are living with it. If they didnt do the things they did and made Casey a responsible adult, they would still have a grandaughter and their daughter wouldnt be in prison.

They have played one too many games for me to believe anything that comes out of their mouths and their actions speak louder than words.

My guess is its a game now on how to get the focus off Casey because with the new evidence they have to do something to save her knowing they cannot just dispute it anymore. There is way too much evidence now to say anyone other than Casey did this and how her parents are trying to get their murderous daughter off to let her go free.

If not for their actions, most of the public would be on their side and given a lot of support. They cannot help what KC did to Caylee, but they can help the way the react to it. JMO

[~layla~]

A 4pm meeting with Conway was avoided?

George knew they'd be looking for him at least starting at 4pm.

he sent them texts.... Ummm he KNEW they would find him.
He just stood by for 6 months while they tracked his own daughter this very way (of course it was too late being after the fact) .... he had to know his own phone would be tracked, his cars GPS would be analyzed, and that no way he would be just left alone....

I dont think its a stunt, I just think he knows how the whole thing plays out.

[jammies]

*Bolding mine

You would have to have lived in (or close to) a family with this kind of dynamic to understand. If someone has the cojones to not be bullied he wouldn't be in that situation in the first place. Once he gave up his autonomy he had none left to make the kind of a life-altering decision that involves a physical separation. The only other option is to get away, either by an emotional or mental withdrawal or by dying.

Whether or not that's where George was, whether or not Cindy put him there, it's a fact of life that it happens. Would you be as unbending with a battered woman, would you be one of those to castigate her for not leaving? There is physical battering and there is emotional battering and perhaps the emotional battering is harder to live with because it leaves no obvious marks. George is obviously in pain, can't you cut him a little slack, if for nothing else but that?


You must not have read my entire post. First off, we have no idea if he's a battered spouse. They both seem off the wall to us in the public. I have NO PROBLEM with him leaving and getting away if he needed to sort things out. If he didn't tell Cindy and just took off, threatened suicide, I just find that HORRIBLE for her. And for Lee.

btw, I think they are ALL in pain. That much is obvious.

I pray for ALL of them that they can get through this nightmare.

[Januarybaby]

Heres a thought:

GA pulled this so he could talk to investigators and tell them the truth without Cindy holding his strings and making him into a puppet again. If hes in a mental facility, she cant control what he says.

He spilled alot when he was alone with investigators before.

I still dont feel sorry for him but if he does come out with the truth by doing this, he may redeem himself in my eyes.

[shelbar53]

George tried to kill himself in sept and casey did not nothing. She knows what this is doing to her parents her exteneded family but yet, she does nothing.

I do think george is suicidal and one day he will actually kill himself. what he is doing now, is a cry for help.

However, it does not take away the fact that he lied and covered-up things.

I bet that stinking horrible stench in the car that he drove home in, the stench of his rotting granddaughter is always on his mind just eating away at him.

I dont know how that family has gone on this long, it needs to end and not by the actual death of george and cindy but by casey. Is baez really telling her to keep her mouth shut, does he see dollar signs for himself? why cant she confess, end the circus. baez is NOT going to get her off, he needs to face reality.

Casey needs to stop this. If her family is still saying, the nanny did it, some stranger broke in and did it, her friends did it any one but casey did it, then they deserve everything that happens to them.

I want to see how conway is spinning this but I can tell you, if they are still going with casey is innocent then the entire bunch are NUTJOBS, george, cindy, lee the lawyers the entire lot of them.

[Postergeist]

Anyone have any ideas what items were found in the hotel room with George and why the items were turned over to Orange County Sheriff's Office? TIA

Mornin' desmom- one of the video reports were saying notes found in the vehicle and in the room that were turned over- but not confirmed by LE.

I hope his family will remind him of his hand analogy-he's still the thumb in the family. The "pinky" hasn't lived in their home for over 7 months and it's been over a month since the remains were positively ID'd as those of Caylee's.

Seems like the family meeting with the attorney that he missed yesterday was something he just didn't want to face and decided Daytona was the place to be.

I am glad that Cindy and her attorney decided that calling OCSD was the right thing to do- regardless of her negative feelings towards local LE.

[~layla~]

5:09 a.m.: Chitwood said a note was found in the room with Anthony. He would not elaborate on what the note said, but that it had been sent to the Orange County Sheriff's Office.


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/23/george_anthony_found_hospitalized_in_daytona_beach .html

I think desmom was asking what people think MAY have been found.

Id say possibly something written that would lock the case/time/death down even tighter.

[desmom]

5:09 a.m.: Chitwood said a note was found in the room with Anthony. He would not elaborate on what the note said, but that it had been sent to the Orange County Sheriff's Office.


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/23/george_anthony_found_hospitalized_in_daytona_beach .html

Thanks to all that responded.

Daytona Beach is not in Orange County. George is not in an Orange County hospital, so why would the other items/note be given to OCSO?

The other items/note are related to the case or the note provided OCSO with info? :shrug:

[jammies]

I completely agree.



Thanks, elle. It's sad all the way around, isn't it?

[?noanswer]

Thank you for these links, Swarv. As always you bring very interesting information to this board. I have an open mind and I did read both articles. I will not rule out or dismiss what this guy is saying. Not yet. I will not go into (yet again) my suspicions of the meter reader or my thoughts on whether or not Casey actually committed the murder or is just guilty of getting rid of Caylee's remains) but I will say this.


There has to be SOMEONE out there who knows something or saw or heard something, even if it is a long time ago than just within the last several months since this tragedy occurred. I would only ask that this person or persons not be afraid to give the police whatever information they have. I know that everyone who gets involved in this either intentionally or non intentionally have been put through the ringer. I would never put pressure on someone to say something they are uncomfortable with or afraid to say. But the truth has to come out somehow because a 2 year old is not resting in peace. Whoever the person is that knows something, please bring some justice to Caylee. Because until you do, that sweet 2 year old baby, baby Caylee that we all love so dearly, her soul will not rest until justice is served.

After the bashing the MR got, people will think long & hard before they come forth. Above you are still questioning the MR. He came forth with information and has gone thru H*** for doing so.

JMO

[KKKKKKatie]

5:09 a.m.: Chitwood said a note was found in the room with Anthony. He would not elaborate on what the note said, but that it had been sent to the Orange County Sheriff's Office.


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/23/george_anthony_found_hospitalized_in_daytona_beach .html

On the Today Show they just said the note was 5 pages long....

[Jeepers]

I agree. My mom was a softy and dad a Hard nose. I never really got in trouble as a kid for 2 reasons....1) I didn't want to see mom cry and 2) I didn't want Dad to kill me. Dad is a Homicide Detective...Guess what...you can't pull anything over his eyes! I never got away with anything. He never "assumed" the teacher was lying and I was telling the truth. He always held us accountable for all of our actions. He truly is a great man. I thank God everyday that he was my moral guide. I am trying to follow his lead with my kids. Love them, support them, but make them live with the consequences of their actions...always. My little brother at about age 4, took some little knob from the hardware store. When mom found it in the wash, it was straight back to the store with me in tow also. He made my brother confess, apologize and we both recieved a huge lecture about right and wrong. He never stopped teaching us these concepts...he still does today. I wish casey could have learned that from her Dad.

Those are operative words: "He never stopped teaching us"
Casey in her video was saying to Cindy "what is it I am suppose to learn" Casey never got it. Yes, Cindy would call her on a lie or for stealing but there were never any consequences, lot of hollering and screaming and belittlement but Cindy never held her feet to the fire.
Casey knew that if she did something wrong Cindy would scream and yell and that would be the end of it until next time. So it meant nothing to Casey she did not have to deal with being grounded, car taken away, no cell phone or computer time. Casey did not have any boundaries set for her growing up. No consequences for anything she did.
I love and support my kids but I have also tried to raise them knowing a decision they make today might not be the one they want to live with tomorrow.
Casey realized that she was out of control , she told Lee on the 15th of July, maybe this should have been done a long time ago. Casey knew she was going jail. When Cindy was trying to take her to the substation and it was closed Casey's reaction was like ok.

[shelbar53]

Heres a thought:

GA pulled this so he could talk to investigators and tell them the truth without Cindy holding his strings and making him into a puppet again. If hes in a mental facility, she cant control what he says.

He spilled alot when he was alone with investigators before.

I still dont feel sorry for him but if he does come out with the truth by doing this, he may redeem himself in my eyes.

I dont think he spilled alot. half of what he said wasnt true. he spent alot time BSing them but if you listen again and write down important clues or facts he said, your paper would be empty.

[shelbar53]

If not for their actions, most of the public would be on their side and given a lot of support. They cannot help what KC did to Caylee, but they can help the way the react to it. JMO

so true, i agree

[Neffy]

George tried to kill himself in sept and casey did not nothing. She knows what this is doing to her parents her exteneded family but yet, she does nothing.

I do think george is suicidal and one day he will actually kill himself. what he is doing now, is a cry for help.

However, it does not take away the fact that he lied and covered-up things.

I bet that stinking horrible stench in the car that he drove home in, the stench of his rotting granddaughter is always on his mind just eating away at him.

I dont know how that family has gone on this long, it needs to end and not by the actual death of george and cindy but by casey. Is baez really telling her to keep her mouth shut, does he see dollar signs for himself? why cant she confess, end the circus. baez is NOT going to get her off, he needs to face reality.

Casey needs to stop this. If her family is still saying, the nanny did it, some stranger broke in and did it, her friends did it any one but casey did it, then they deserve everything that happens to them.

I want to see how conway is spinning this but I can tell you, if they are still going with casey is innocent then the entire bunch are NUTJOBS, george, cindy, lee the lawyers the entire lot of them.


:confused:

He bought a gun and went on the air mentioning suicide.

Not the same thing.

[?noanswer]

Mornin' desmom- one of the video reports were saying notes found in the vehicle and in the room that were turned over- but not confirmed by LE.

I hope his family will remind him of his hand analogy-he's still the thumb in the family. The "pinky" hasn't lived in their home for over 7 months and it's been over a month since the remains were positively ID'd as those of Caylee's.

Seems like the family meeting with the attorney that he missed yesterday was something he just didn't want to face and decided Daytona was the place to be.

I am glad that Cindy and her attorney decided that calling OCSD was the right thing to do- regardless of her negative feelings towards local LE.

It would be interesting to know what the meeting with the attorney was about. Was he going to resign? Were they going to cook up another story? Was he going to advise them to come clean? As I said, it would be interesting. JMO

[playnice]

Thanks to all that responded.

Daytona Beach is not in Orange County. George is not in an Orange County hospital, so why would the other items/note be given to OCSO?

The other items/note are related to the case or the note provided OCSO with info? :shrug:

Id say so . JMO

[desmom]

Heres a thought:

GA pulled this so he could talk to investigators and tell them the truth without Cindy holding his strings and making him into a puppet again. If hes in a mental facility, she cant control what he says.

He spilled alot when he was alone with investigators before.

I still dont feel sorry for him but if he does come out with the truth by doing this, he may redeem himself in my eyes.

You may be on to something here Januarybaby.

This could be a way for George to to talk to LE without anyone knowing. jmo

[Regina.Lampert]

George Anthony being stabilized in ER
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8299251&version=29&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Daytona Beach Police Chief Michael Chitwood said George sent text messages to his family that he wanted to end his life. Chitwood said George told him that there was a lot of pressure on him and he needed to think.

George was Baker Acted, or involuntarily taken to Halifax Medical Center. He was personally driven to the hospital by the police chief.

No drugs or weapons were found inside his room at the Hawaii Motel on South Atlantic Avenue early Friday morning.

George had other items with him at the hotel but the details of those items are not being released. They are being turned over to the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

"We do know George Anthony is saying I don't want to live anymore," Chitwood said.

ETA ~ Why are the "other items" being turned over to OCSO?


Perhaps a partial confession as to the lies he may have told?

[?noanswer]

On the Today Show they just said the note was 5 pages long....

Sounds like he might have written out all the details of what he knows. JMO

[Januarybaby]

Sounds like he might have written out all the details of what he knows. JMO

Didnt he at one time also yell that he cant live this anymore and that the truth needs to be told?

IF he did write or tells what he knows, I hope he doesnt try to "buffer" it so Casey and Cindy dont look to bad. Hope he tells it as it is.

[mdibella]

I am surprised Nancy Grace didn't comment on this, it hit me immediately during last night's show when she said that the search warrant on the Anthony's house mentioned, among other things, Xanax.

Let's think on this...

Casey joked with her boyfriend about giving Caylee 'medicine' to make her go to sleep.

Casey told her friends that Caylee was with 'Zanny the Nanny'

Zanny? Or maybe Xanny? Was Casey making a pun here?

Was Zanny nothing more than a bottle of Xanax?

[Destini]

I think desmom was asking what people think MAY have been found.

Id say possibly something written that would lock the case/time/death down even tighter.

Oh, sorry I misunderstood Desmom. I'm thinking you're right, Layla, there could have been something in that note important to the investigation.

I'm glad he was found safe & is getting help. I feel bad for anyone despondent enough to think about suicide. It's understandable under the circumstances. Maybe he just needed time away from everything to clear his head. I've been there myself a few times. If he didn't have a gun or pills with him, he must not have been serious about killing himself.

[Neffy]

Perhaps a partial confession as to the lies he may have told?

False confession to cast doubt?

[Jeepers]

And don't forget: being isolated in the house with Cindy. He probably couldn't stand to even look at her any more.

Even in good times being with Cindy would be tuff. I wonder why he came back home and not go through with the divorce. None of my business on that question , so I answered that myself.
I can't imagine how their time together through all of this has played out behind closed doors. That must be heard looking at each other over the breakfast table. jmo.

[floridamom]

Are you my sister? This is my parents to a tee except my father was a teacher.

I'm not your sister, but aren't we lucky that we ahve parents with some morals and values.
I like your tag line and Sarah Palin, Too!

[Postergeist]

After the bashing the MR got, people will think long & hard before they come forth. Above you are still questioning the MR. He came forth with information and has gone thru H*** for doing so.

JMO

Agree- seems like anyone, and I do mean anyone that has had direct or indirect connection to Casey has been snakebit.

No one came forward when there was a quarter of a mil reward...

So many have had their feet held to the fire- from Uncle Rick to the Grunds, I could see why a person wouldn't want to admit to knowing Casey on any personal level.

:(

[PuffDragon]

You must not have read my entire post. First off, we have no idea if he's a battered spouse. They both seem off the wall to us in the public. I have NO PROBLEM with him leaving and getting away if he needed to sort things out. If he didn't tell Cindy and just took off, threatened suicide, I just find that HORRIBLE for her. And for Lee.

btw, I think they are ALL in pain. That much is obvious.

I pray for ALL of them that they can get through this nightmare.

Yes, I certainly did read your entire post. I was responding to your assertion that if he didn't like the way Cindy was pulling his strings he should have just left. I proposed that had been able to leave he would have and since he didn't seem to be able to do it the way you expected there was probably more to that family dynamic than was apparent. No I don't know that he was a battered spouse but his willingness to let his wife pull his strings and write the scripts tells me that he wasn't the type to make waves, and I can make logical assumptions as to why.

[desmom]

False confession to cast doubt?

In one of George's interviews with LE he became physically ill. IIRC, one of the things discussed in the interview was the smell in the car. I think George was really distraught over that smell and he has known for a long time what caused it, but could not bring himself to say it or admit it.

Maybe the red heart sticker was just more than George could handle and he has decided enough is enough. jmo

[islandgirl36542]

Thank God George didnt harm himself~I'm praying he gets some help and counseling.


http://i39.tinypic.com/2d8peue.jpg


Justice For Caylee...:rose:

[?noanswer]

Don't want to open the can of worms from last night, but I was wondering re Eric Baker and paternity of Caylee. He was killed in an auto accident. Were there blood test done for drugs, etc.? If so, would his DNA been saved and that could have been used to determine if he is Caylee's father. Personally, I don't think he was. He was only 15 yo at the time Caylee was conceived. JMO

[OneUp]

I truly hope your right :sad:
What's so sad is this was not George's first cry for help. I thought I saved the link but didn't. Does anyone recall the interview George did in the summer where he admitted he contemplated suicide?
I do, I started to post about it but couldn't find the link either....things go *poof* so often here and I haven't the space for everrything on my computer!
I don't think this was a thought out manipulative ploy either...just a cry for help as suicide so often is...as for him not having any weapon in the hotel room...well, there are LOTS of ways to take your life, many of which don't require weapons such as jumping or "suicide by car" ( a common thing in young men). I felt George was a likely candidate for suicide based on the time he told the media that he wanted to die sometimes, the purchase of the gun ( rumor only, but I *heard* the gun dealer called it in to LE as he was concerned about George, and that he might go after Casey when she got out on that last bond), and the fact that he alone seems to be aware fo and face the reality about Casey. Cindy lies to herself pretty well...so I don't think she will ever fully see Casey for what she is...but George seems close to aknowledging the full truth. The truth here is a mighty heavy burden to face too.
JMO.

[Balesha]

I'm dying to know what was written in that letter. My heart goes out to George Anthony. Maybe he's finally connecting the dots.

[Destini]

On the Today Show they just said the note was 5 pages long....

That's a lot of words ... I guess we can only hope he revealed something important that will move this case along, but it might have just been going back over his life, his trumphs, regrets, etc.

We're just in wait-and-see mode. Bet ya Baez is a nervous wreck.

[Regina.Lampert]

Oh, sorry I misunderstood Desmom. I'm thinking you're right, Layla, there could have been something in that note important to the investigation.

I'm glad he was found safe & is getting help. I feel bad for anyone despondent enough to think about suicide. It's understandable under the circumstances. Maybe he just needed time away from everything to clear his head. I've been there myself a few times. If he didn't have a gun or pills with him, he must not have been serious about killing himself.

A razor blade cut to the femoral artery would have sent him off.........bet he had a blade with him.

[Lavenia]

I am surprised Nancy Grace didn't comment on this, it hit me immediately during last night's show when she said that the search warrant on the Anthony's house mentioned, among other things, Xanax.

Let's think on this...

Casey joked with her boyfriend about giving Caylee 'medicine' to make her go to sleep.

Casey told her friends that Caylee was with 'Zanny the Nanny'

Zanny? Or maybe Xanny? Was Casey making a pun here?

Was Zanny nothing more than a bottle of Xanax?

That's been considered mdibella and apparently that is one of the drugs LE wants to see on a Tox screen (although it probably won't be viable due to the condition of her remains).

[Neffy]

In one of George's interviews with LE he became physically ill. IIRC, one of the things discussed in the interview was the smell in the car. I think George was really distraught over that smell and he has known for a long time what caused it, but could not bring himself to say it or admit it.

Maybe the red heart sticker was just more than George could handle and he has decided enough is enough. jmo

I don't believe it just thought I'd throw it out there as many bizarre turns this case has taken.

I do find it odd that any day he went missing may have resulted in an APB but missing the 4 meeting it would have become apparent that people would start looking then.

[desmom]

I'm dying to know what was written in that letter. My heart goes out to George Anthony. Maybe he's finally connecting the dots.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18543583/detail.html#-

"I'm being told by sources close to the investigation that the note included wording like 'I want to go be with Caylee,'" Local 6 News reporter Jessica D'Onofrio said.

Sources?!? I am beginning to dislike 'sources'.

[Rick777]

I wonder if reading about the heart sticker and finding out about the laundry hamper liner put him over the edge. Also the Winnie the Pooh blanket. He knows now 100 percent Casey did this. The reality of if all must be one big brick wall they have slammed into.


Or.....George is crazy like a fox, and doing this takes the attention off his daughter for a moment.

[PuffDragon]

Casey in her video was saying to Cindy "what is it I am suppose to learn"
<snipped to comment>


*Bolding mine

All I could think of when I heard that was a child being put in Time Out and the parent saying to her "You stay right there until you learn your lesson". So is this Casey feeling like she had been put in jail for Time Out and she didn't even know what she was supposed to be learning so that she could say she say, "Okay, I've learned my lesson, can I get out of Time Out now?"

[kOOkie1]

I'm dying to know what was written in that letter. My heart goes out to George Anthony. Maybe he's finally connecting the dots.

I am as well and we can only hope that something is written in the reported 5 pages that will put an end to the mess Casey has created.

[Postergeist]

It would be interesting to know what the meeting with the attorney was about. Was he going to resign? Were they going to cook up another story? Was he going to advise them to come clean? As I said, it would be interesting. JMO

yanno- it may have come as a surprise to George what all Cindy had been saying to her superiors and coworkers on the days leading up to the vehicle being impounded and the day the retrieved it.

Since the doc dumps came out this week- this may have been what their atty wanted to discuss- which was Cindy's remarks she made about the car smelling like a dead body to civilians.

She said later to media she said "whatever she had to" to get LE to come to her home.

I don't think he'll resign- and I don't lean that he wants them to come clean. It's probably more on the lines of "don't offer anything- wait for the question" type advice.

Cindy may have learned for the first time that George had pointed out to LE that an area by the pool had been disturbed- think it said something like 12" wide and 5" deep.

She had told media and Greta that Casey was digging up pesky bamboo shoots during the time that Caylee was missing.

She may not have been happy that George saw the ground disturbance as something that should be pointed out to LE.

Lee may be having trouble handling the role as placator in that family.

imo

[Lavenia]

Large hotel, on the beach, with cheap room rates:

http://www.hawaiianinn.com/.

I'm surprised he wouldn't have gone to some out of the way motel...

[jammies]

I'm not your sister, but aren't we lucky that we ahve parents with some morals and values.
I like your tag line and Sarah Palin, Too!


Yes, we are darn lucky. Your remark about your mother crying.....Oh, yeah....worst thing ever. I can still remember each and every time she cried. Haunts me. Then there's Casey whose mother sits in front of her SOBBING and she's angry and frustrated. Difficult to wrap my brain around someone so callous..

[Calla]

Just a little over 4 months from now..this will have been a year of hell for this family. Counting the drama that led up to this of course.

I honestly don't know how anyone could deal with this day in and day out.
The loss of that baby is enough on it's own but the legal, financial and media woes on top of it..WOW.
If I were in their shoes and able to fend off the suicidal desires, I would likely take a few rags and move to the far corners of Mexico. I would leave a note telling LE to do what they had to do.


What I have thought about is this...
If they had lost their daughter and grand daughter in a tragic accident, would they be dealing with it differently on an emotional level?

The answer is likely to be yes, because then they would have the sympathy of neighbors and relatives.
No matter what their actions have been, right or wrong, I think it is terribly sad that they do not have the support they need to cope with the devastating loss they have endured.

I know the 'you made your bed' attitude is present, and is completely understandable.
I'm just not made that way. No matter how wrong they handled things, Casey victimized that family long before she killed her baby and they must not only feel loss, but embarrassment and hopelessness as well.

[Barbara fl.]

George tried to kill himself in sept and casey did not nothing. She knows what this is doing to her parents her exteneded family but yet, she does nothing.

I do think george is suicidal and one day he will actually kill himself. what he is doing now, is a cry for help.

However, it does not take away the fact that he lied and covered-up things.

I bet that stinking horrible stench in the car that he drove home in, the stench of his rotting granddaughter is always on his mind just eating away at him.

I dont know how that family has gone on this long, it needs to end and not by the actual death of george and cindy but by casey. Is baez really telling her to keep her mouth shut, does he see dollar signs for himself? why cant she confess, end the circus. baez is NOT going to get her off, he needs to face reality.

Casey needs to stop this. If her family is still saying, the nanny did it, some stranger broke in and did it, her friends did it any one but casey did it, then they deserve everything that happens to them.

I want to see how conway is spinning this but I can tell you, if they are still going with casey is innocent then the entire bunch are NUTJOBS, george, cindy, lee the lawyers the entire lot of them.


Good morning all,


I feel as you do....This madness can stop by Casey....Baez needs to act like an attorney and try and end this....it's something that should have happened a long time ago....maybe too late now, I don't know...But closure needs to come to this case and it never will as long as Casey continues to lie...Casey and only Casey can end this now....out of respect for her dead daughter that she murdered and out of what ever respect she might have for her family....she needs to tell the truth, so that her family no longer have to cover up for what she has done....

I'm not saying that Anthony's were right in covering up, but Casey needs to step up and take responsibility for her actions....She has destroyed her entire family and is still destroying them because she STILL wants her freedom no matter what the cost.....

It's easy for all of us to say what this family is going thru and I for one would NOT have taken the route that they took....but they are desperate and they are visualizing the days to come....That's alot for anyone to take....no matter who they are....

If this doesn't make Casey come forward then Lee needs to go visit his sister and tell her that this has got to stop and now.....the H*** with Baez and the dream team....let them get their publicity elsewhere...I believe that Lee is the one now to show his sister the destruction this all has cause and continue to cause the family....and if she doesn't see what it's doing and continues with her lie, then this family needs to take control now and walk away from Casey once and for all.....JMOO

[Leanne Weich]

The report said George contacted two people he knew cared about him... the KF guy might have been one of them. They did seem to get along quite well.

My guess is that he probably did contact the KF guy and I'm thinking possibly Mark Nejame. On another site a poster was getting info. from Tim Miller and she said Tim did not get an email but that he would be heading to Florida to hug George. If that is the case, he is more amazing than I even thought before after how Cynthia treated him. It is m.o. that George should not be involved with the KF organization until he has dealt with his own emotional issues.

[jammies]

Large hotel, on the beach, with cheap room rates:

http://www.hawaiianinn.com/.

I'm surprised he wouldn't have gone to some out of the way motel...


.....far, far away.

[Jeepers]

probably because he hasn't kept a decent job in several years, per Shirley (cindy's mama)....he got himself in a jam with some scam &/or gambling..Cindy got his butt outta that sling...

Yeah, maybe so, I guess I have too much pride and cannot see how people allow themselves to be bought and sold.
I just don't like feeling obligated to someone. Stubborn and bull headed I am.
George needs to get well and take back his power.

[bchand]

Thanks to all that responded.

Daytona Beach is not in Orange County. George is not in an Orange County hospital, so why would the other items/note be given to OCSO?

The other items/note are related to the case or the note provided OCSO with info? :shrug:

Daytona Beach Chief Chitwood said since it was an active investigation, they turned over anything he had with him to Orange County to sort through since they know a heck of alot more than he does.

I just find it so ironic that, after all the criticisim from the Anthony family about OCSD, look who they called first and now give credit to.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18546286/index.html

[Elle]

*Bolding mine

You would have to have lived in (or close to) a family with this kind of dynamic to understand. If someone has the cojones to not be bullied he wouldn't be in that situation in the first place. Once he gave up his autonomy he had none left to make the kind of a life-altering decision that involves a physical separation. The only other option is to get away, either by an emotional or mental withdrawal or by dying.

Whether or not that's where George was, whether or not Cindy put him there, it's a fact of life that it happens. Would you be as unbending with a battered woman, would you be one of those to castigate her for not leaving? There is physical battering and there is emotional battering and perhaps the emotional battering is harder to live with because it leaves no obvious marks. George is obviously in pain, can't you cut him a little slack, if for nothing else but that?

Puffdragon

Respectfully,I believe Cindy is in alot of pain. Why can't she be afforded the same consideration.

Where is there evidence George was a 'battered' man. I do see Cindy as having a controlling personality, and I do see George as appearing to be submissive,however, too little is known, and appearances are often decieving. We do not know their true relationship, we do not know many things. I will not make the leap from controlling personality to abuser with as little information and evidence that there is.

I wish this pain on nobody. George is obviously going through hell, but I believe that Cindy is too, and to say things like 'he probably couldn't stand to even look at her anymore' is imo really harsh. I will not blame Cindy for George's actions.

I pray he is able to recieve the help he needs and that he can begin to heal. I pray that for Cindy too.


above is moo

[Jpanda]

Just a little over 4 months from now..this will have been a year of hell for this family. Counting the drama that led up to this of course.

I honestly don't know how anyone could deal with this day in and day out.
The loss of that baby is enough on it's own but the legal, financial and media woes on top of it..WOW.
If I were in their shoes and able to fend off the suicidal desires, I would likely take a few rags and move to the far corners of Mexico. I would leave a note telling LE to do what they had to do.


What I have thought about is this...
If they had lost their daughter and grand daughter in a tragic accident, would they be dealing with it differently on an emotional level?

The answer is likely to be yes, because then they would have the sympathy of neighbors and relatives.
No matter what their actions have been, right or wrong, I think it is terribly sad that they do not have the support they need to cope with the devastating loss they have endured.

I know the 'you made your bed' attitude is present, and is completely understandable.
I'm just not made that way. No matter how wrong they handled things, Casey victimized that family long before she killed her baby and they must not only feel loss, but embarrassment and hopelessness as well.

Good morning everyone.

Calla, this is a great post and ITA with everything you said. I think George finally reached his breaking point and is now finally recognizing their reality. My heart breaks for him.

Praying that he gets well soon.

jmo

[~jomomma~]

A razor blade cut to the femoral artery would have sent him off.........bet he had a blade with him.

or hanging himself....

yup, casey set out to hurt her parents.....mission accomplished

[SavannahStar]

I'm dying to know what was written in that letter. My heart goes out to George Anthony. Maybe he's finally connecting the dots.


I really hope that letter is not made public. :sad:

[SavannahStar]

Just a little over 4 months from now..this will have been a year of hell for this family. Counting the drama that led up to this of course.

I honestly don't know how anyone could deal with this day in and day out.
The loss of that baby is enough on it's own but the legal, financial and media woes on top of it..WOW.
If I were in their shoes and able to fend off the suicidal desires, I would likely take a few rags and move to the far corners of Mexico. I would leave a note telling LE to do what they had to do.


What I have thought about is this...
If they had lost their daughter and grand daughter in a tragic accident, would they be dealing with it differently on an emotional level?

The answer is likely to be yes, because then they would have the sympathy of neighbors and relatives.
No matter what their actions have been, right or wrong, I think it is terribly sad that they do not have the support they need to cope with the devastating loss they have endured.

I know the 'you made your bed' attitude is present, and is completely understandable.
I'm just not made that way. No matter how wrong they handled things, Casey victimized that family long before she killed her baby and they must not only feel loss, but embarrassment and hopelessness as well.

That's a really beautiful post. ITA with you.

[bchand]

"Lawrence Olmstead" looks hinky to me.

http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29133

Very hinky. He didn't even have the original date that 911 was called correct. Just another hanger on er IMO.

[PuffDragon]

probably because he hasn't kept a decent job in several years, per Shirley (cindy's mama)....he got himself in a jam with some scam &/or gambling..Cindy got his butt outta that sling...

Why? Why would she do that? She could have cut him loose, said good riddance, I don't need you. He tried to leave her and she talked him into coming back. She didn't need to bankrupt the family just to get him out of a hole. He would have gone. He wanted to go.

Perhaps she said "Our daughter is pregnant, we're going to have a grandbaby who won't have a father in its life, you have to be the father, we need you." But he was just another millstone around her neck and he didn't really want to be with her, so what made him so valuable to her that she would tie a string around him at that point?

[Calla]

somethin I read upthread made me say this & maybe its been said...


You don't think George left a note saying he did it and now he is going to be with Caylee? WOuld he be that silly as to try to remove blame from Casey? I am sure he loves her that much, but I hope he would not be that messed up.

[Rick777]

I know it seems cold, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for George because I don't know his involvment in Caylee's death. Maybe he's suicidal because he participated in an aspect of her death. I don't think any new info came from the last doc dump that made him finally wake up and think Casey was involved. He's a former cop, he knows where there's smoke there's fire.

[WillowInFlight]

WOW, I don't know what to think, I feel bad sure, but I still can't shake that last interview with LKL where he outright lied. Guilt must be eating him up. Just another victim of Casey. I do think that if he knows anything now maybe the time he talks, especially if he is away from Cindy.

[Elle]

Thanks, elle. It's sad all the way around, isn't it?

Yes jammies, it certainly is.
:rose: Caylee

[PuffDragon]

A razor blade cut to the femoral artery would have sent him off.........bet he had a blade with him.

Or a bathtub full of water.

[WillowInFlight]

I know it seems cold, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for George because I don't know his involvment in Caylee's death. Maybe he's suicidal because he participated in an aspect of her death. I don't think any new info came from the last doc dump that made him finally wake up and think Casey was involved. He's a former cop, he knows where there's smoke there's fire.

Not cold at all Rick, IMO George earned how some of us feel.

[StillEG]

WOW, I don't know what to think, I feel bad sure, but I still can't shake that last interview with LKL where he outright lied. Guilt must be eating him up. Just another victim of Casey. I do think that if he knows anything now maybe the time he talks, especially if he is away from Cindy.

I just heard this on the radio and jumped on here to catch up! Have they reported HOW he tried to commit suicide?????????


Sorry to be so behind.

[Lavenia]

Why? Why would she do that? She could have cut him loose, said good riddance, I don't need you. He tried to leave her and she talked him into coming back. She didn't need to bankrupt the family just to get him out of a hole. He would have gone. He wanted to go.

Perhaps she said "Our daughter is pregnant, we're going to have a grandbaby who won't have a father in its life, you have to be the father, we need you." But he was just another millstone around her neck and he didn't really want to be with her, so what made him so valuable to her that she would tie a string around him at that point?

(My bolding)

Appearances?

[OneUp]

I really hope that letter is not made public. :sad:
ITA, an attempt at suicide is such a private pain...it's bad enough that everyone know what has happened. I HOPE it will stay private, and I think it will unless there is information relevant to the investigation in it...then the Sunshine law ( which I generally favor) will put the contents of his notes "out there".
I don't care what they've done...this is just awful and sad. Of course, I notice that Casey didn't need any special watch or sedation when she heard, unlike the day she knew her gig was up as Caylee had been found.
That is a nasty, nasty, soulless thing !!!
JMO.

[shelbar53]

George missing 2 hours: call the police get the helicopters

Caylee missing 31 days: call tattoo place, call friends for party at fusion


What am I missing?

[Barbara fl.]

Just a little over 4 months from now..this will have been a year of hell for this family. Counting the drama that led up to this of course.

I honestly don't know how anyone could deal with this day in and day out.
The loss of that baby is enough on it's own but the legal, financial and media woes on top of it..WOW.
If I were in their shoes and able to fend off the suicidal desires, I would likely take a few rags and move to the far corners of Mexico. I would leave a note telling LE to do what they had to do.


What I have thought about is this...
If they had lost their daughter and grand daughter in a tragic accident, would they be dealing with it differently on an emotional level?

The answer is likely to be yes, because then they would have the sympathy of neighbors and relatives.
No matter what their actions have been, right or wrong, I think it is terribly sad that they do not have the support they need to cope with the devastating loss they have endured.

I know the 'you made your bed' attitude is present, and is completely understandable.
I'm just not made that way. No matter how wrong they handled things, Casey victimized that family long before she killed her baby and they must not only feel loss, but embarrassment and hopelessness as well.


You are so right....and if I were in their shoes right now, I would be salvaging what ever family I had left...I would have to make a decision right now, not tomorrow, but right now to grieve the loss of my daughter (Casey) and walk away......They still have each other and Casey is not worth all this....They all need to talk to someone and make a decision right now....Otherwise, there is only going to be even more tragedy in this family.....

I blame Baez for alot of this....IF he was truly acting in the best interest of his client he would have convinced her to plead down to a lesser charge.....BUT Baez and the dream team want all this publicity and they can not get it with a plea deal.....they would have to go to trial....WHICH is NOT in the best interest of their client....Casey is too stupid to see this and she was probably told that she would get off...which is NOT the case.....all this is doing is destroying the entire family......JMOO

[Lavenia]

if i had to guess, i'd say pills..

The accounts I've read said he had no drugs other than his high BP meds. Who knows the full story though?

[apothecary]

Do you think this attempt is about the past or about future information that will come forth.Or George and Cindy were again lied to by Casey and she convinced them thatCaylee's death was an accident and since it was an accident in their minds that was OK to cover up ,but now that more has come to light it is obvious to George that he has helped cover up a cold blooded killing of his grandaughter rather than an accident and he can not live with himself any more.He probably did not know about the duct tape and heart sticker and that was the final straw.I sure hope he tells all he knows to LE because he really has nothing else to lose

[Regina.Lampert]

Or a bathtub full of water.

"In" a bathtub full of water. Actually, a very peaceful way of leaving this world, imo. Your lifeforce (blood) just drains away.

[WillowInFlight]

I just heard this on the radio and jumped on here to catch up! Have they reported HOW he tried to commit suicide?????????


Sorry to be so behind.

Not sure hon, I just logged in and ViennaGal had sent me a PM telling me about George.

[Lavenia]

ITA, an attempt at suicide is such a private pain...it's bad enough that everyone know what has happened. I HOPE it will stay private, and I think it will unless there is information relevant to the investigation in it...then the Sunshine law ( which I generally favor) will put the contents of his notes "out there".
I don't care what they've done...this is just awful and sad. Of course, I notice that Casey didn't need any special watch or sedation when she heard, unlike the day she knew her gig was up as Caylee had been found.
That is a nasty, nasty, soulless thing !!!
JMO.

Agree, agree, agree.

[threesnugbugs]

George missing 2 hours: call the police get the helicopters

Caylee missing 31 days: call tattoo place, call friends for party at fusion


What am I missing?

Another great comment that should be used by the prosecution. Very clear in actions, that they do know what the right thing is to do, but didn't in Caylee's case.

[RockStarGirl]

somethin I read upthread made me say this & maybe its been said...


You don't think George left a note saying he did it and now he is going to be with Caylee? WOuld he be that silly as to try to remove blame from Casey? I am sure he loves her that much, but I hope he would not be that messed up.

Good Morning All,

Hi Calla, you make a very good point here. I think it is possible George COULD have done this. I doubt it though or at least I hope he didn't.

I wonder if this will make Casey talk at all. I have always been under the impression that nothing could make her talk. I just feel she is that cold that she just doesn't care about her family. This is evident in the Hell that she has put them through so far. However, in the last doc dump there was a mention that she liked to talk to George because he wouldn't question her too much. I think she feels that George was the easy parent. The one she could wrap around her finger and I'm sure he was. Also, she almost talked to the police a couple of times IIRC, however it seems her lawyer talked her out of it. Someone needs to point out to Casey that YES! she is in control. Of her attorney especially, not the other way around. She wants attention, she wants her parents to coddle her and make her the center of attention. Maybe the news of George's possible suicide will make her say SOMETHING to help this investigation. The mind of a sociopath is so hard to figure out! I am always just hoping for the best for Caylee and the innocent parts of this family. Not that there are many.

Will be popping in and out all day. Thanks for keeping me so up to date with all the news, etc. You posters are awesome!!

[Rick777]

WillowInFlight,

You are on the money when you say George is just "another victim of casey". I think about all the jailhouse chats with casey and her parents and they sit there almost like Zombies....letting her play out her game with almost no heartfelt emotions coming from thier side.

[Postergeist]

<snipped>

No drugs or weapons were found inside his room at the Hawaii Motel on South Atlantic Avenue early Friday morning.

George had other items with him at the hotel but the details of those items are not being released. They are being turned over to the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

ETA ~ Why are the "other items" being turned over to OCSO?


had to go back and find your post desmom after I thought about your question for a bit-

do you think possibly there were items that somehow relate to the murder investigation?

Maybe he had items that had been removed from Casey's car back in June that the family never turned over to police

or something he put on a thumb drive

could be a myriad of items that either point towards or away from his daughter that he wanted found when he was found??

[Elle]

what do yall think about Cindy's co-worker/supervisor telling her she should go home, but Cindy said she couldn't; she had too much work to do?.....i found that really strange!!!....she'd just told this girl all about the bad smell in the car, etc.......

Yes, I agree.
Or about how George picked up the car after smelling that smell, and being ex LE and knowing what the smell was and driving it home anyway, with the windows rolled down because the smell was so bad and never calling 911, and then going off to work, and not coming home till several hours later. While not knowing anything about the whereabouts of Caylee.I find that strange.

imo

[Calla]

I know it seems cold, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for George because I don't know his involvment in Caylee's death. Maybe he's suicidal because he participated in an aspect of her death. I don't think any new info came from the last doc dump that made him finally wake up and think Casey was involved. He's a former cop, he knows where there's smoke there's fire.

You don't know what his involvement is?!? Are you ******** kidding me?!

now you are suppose to say.."well I don't know sweetheart..he wasn't telling me where he is at" :biggrin:

just kiddin with ya

[Lavenia]

Thats the wrong hotel, the Motel he was in is on the landside of Daytona.

Thanks, Mr. Lucky. I'll look for another one. This is the one that I came to when I googled Hawaiin Inn Daytona Beach Fl.

[destiny1]

Good morning everyone. Very sad news about george. I wonder what the protocol is for notifying the odious creature and what her reaction will be?

"Why is dad committing suicide already. Matron, can you turn this speaker up......."

The Today Show just reported they found an unfinished suicide note at the motel with george.

Another life destroyed by casey anthony.


Hello Reggie,

I am away and can only get to a computer once in a while. I caught this on the news, and I must say, this is very sad. Another life destroyed by Casey Marie. I initially thought that this could be another stunt by the Anthonys, but the more I think about it, the more I can see this as being Georges final plea for Casey to tell the truth, even at the cost of his life. Casey won't do it, though. she will probably laugh at him just as she laughed at Cindy's tears. she is evil. She has no heart. Mentally ill or not. Her evil trumps everything.

[Jeepers]

*Bolding mine

All I could think of when I heard that was a child being put in Time Out and the parent saying to her "You stay right there until you learn your lesson". So is this Casey feeling like she had been put in jail for Time Out and she didn't even know what she was supposed to be learning so that she could say she say, "Okay, I've learned my lesson, can I get out of Time Out now?"

That is the way I took it. Casey has never had to deal with anything she has done. Just everyone else cleaning up her messess.
It one jailhouse video Cindy tells Casey when you get out blah blah and Caylee is back home you won't have to work.
Man, what a light bulb moment.
I bet Casey thought well WTH did I kill my daughter for we just had a big fight last month about me not working, not taking care of my daughter, lying, and stealing now your telling me when I get out I won't have to work. Mom, why did'nt you share this with me before I put the duct tape over my daughter's mouth.
Cindy continues with the coddling. No consequences for Casey if it were left up to Cindy. But Casey does not have Cindy to deal with anymore it is the State of Florida and they are not into coddling

Why do coddlers think work is a bad thing. Coddlers usually are hardworking people that can afford to buy nice things, pay sorry love ones bills clean up their life messes but, seem to think that work is a bad thing for their sorry love ones and they should not be subjected to that kinda of hardship.

[Rick777]

George missing 2 hours: call the police get the helicopters

Caylee missing 31 days: call tattoo place, call friends for party at fusion


What am I missing?


The diff is that George wasn't put in the trusting hands of "Zenaida".

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning, Shelangel. I hope you don't mind I snipped, but I really think this needs to be repeated. Casey needs to stop this. I don't understand how she can sit in that jail day after day watching her own family falling apart one by one like this without caring. (snipped)


Seriously? I put absolutely nothing past a female who would put duct tape across the mouth of her baby and then place a heart on it. She's sitting in that cell, thinking about herself and anything that happens in the outside world, is filtered thru her "me" screen. She could care less about george or cynthia, imo. A genuine monster.

[RockStarGirl]

You are so right....and if I were in their shoes right now, I would be salvaging what ever family I had left...I would have to make a decision right now, not tomorrow, but right now to grieve the loss of my daughter (Casey) and walk away......They still have each other and Casey is not worth all this....They all need to talk to someone and make a decision right now....Otherwise, there is only going to be even more tragedy in this family.....

I blame Baez for alot of this....IF he was truly acting in the best interest of his client he would have convinced her to plead down to a lesser charge.....BUT Baez and the dream team want all this publicity and they can not get it with a plea deal.....they would have to go to trial....WHICH is NOT in the best interest of their client....Casey is too stupid to see this and she was probably told that she would get off...which is NOT the case.....all this is doing is destroying the entire family......JMOO

Calla and Barbara, these are both beautiful posts. I'm not sure I agree with everything. I guess I am too mad at George for his handling of Caylee's memory. However, these words you have both written show that you have beautiful souls and can see past that. See that he may have done that unintentionally and is dealing with his own private pain, probably with a lot of guilt for maybe the way he has treated Caylee's memory. I am glad he didn't take his life, that would definitely be tragic. I wish I had such a good heart as the two of you. I am a little jealous. KWIM?

[5boxersmom]

http://www.ipiu.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29133

Odd his company is called Press Pass Media and Todd Blacks is called Press Corps Media. So does he work for Todd Black?

[bchand]

Why? Why would she do that? She could have cut him loose, said good riddance, I don't need you. He tried to leave her and she talked him into coming back. She didn't need to bankrupt the family just to get him out of a hole. He would have gone. He wanted to go.

Perhaps she said "Our daughter is pregnant, we're going to have a grandbaby who won't have a father in its life, you have to be the father, we need you." But he was just another millstone around her neck and he didn't really want to be with her, so what made him so valuable to her that she would tie a string around him at that point?

This was discussed by Cindy's mother in her emails with HER sister. Cindy found out that if she divorced George, he would get half of the house which SHE paid for. It would cost her too much to get rid of him.

Rather than "we need you" she told him he wasn't the man of the house anymore (when they found Jesse in Casey's room) and that SHE would deal with it. (He had moved out at the time.) She emasculated him, IMO.

[Lavenia]

Thats the wrong hotel, the Motel he was in is on the landside of Daytona.

Ahhh, some news outlets are reporting The Hawaiin Inn but the correct motel is The Hawaii Motel. (No web site.)

Thanks Mr. Lucky for bringing my attention to this.

[ellegna]

A razor blade cut to the femoral artery would have sent him off.........bet he had a blade with him.

I was thinking rope :shrug:

[WillowInFlight]

WillowInFlight,

You are on the money when you say George is just "another victim of casey". I think about all the jailhouse chats with casey and her parents and they sit there almost like Zombies....letting her play out her game with almost no heartfelt emotions coming from thier side.

I agree to a point, during those visits I saw a lot of anger in Cindy, I think she had a clue early on. It made me sick to hear the way George babied Casey.

[shelbar53]

Good morning, Shelangel. I hope you don't mind I snipped, but I really think this needs to be repeated. Casey needs to stop this. I don't understand how she can sit in that jail day after day watching her own family falling apart one by one like this without caring. If she did or did not have anything to do with the murder of Caylee, she still KNOWS what happened. Either she left her with strangers while she went off to party, she wasn't watch her and Caylee drowned, or she outright killed little Caylee out of jealousy or whatever the case may be, Casey needs to end this! She needs to tell the truth here and let her family heal. She is the one at the root of everything. Caylee's murder, George's attempts at suicide, her brother's going into hiding, the financial collapse of all of them, the loss of their jobs, Cindy lying and covering up and this whole entire family being dragged through the mud. Casey if you have ANY compassion for your family whatsoever, you need to talk and let your family be at some kind of normalcy.


That is so true. Baez are you reading this???

[spiritwolf46]

Why is Cindy getting blamed for GA's problems? At any point he could have left. I think it's despicable that he would do this to HER!

Sorry, I feel terrible for all of them but GA is a big boy and blaming Cindy is just ridiculous. At any point he could have said ENOUGH, STOP THE CHARADE! Told the ENTIRE truth and let the chips fall where they may.

Having said that, my prayers go out to both of them no matter WHAT they did or didn't do. They didn't kill Caylee.

I have been in and out of here most of the morning, but had to say that ITA with this post, jammies. Each and every one of this family has made their very own beds. This is not Cindy's fault that George is suicidal, it is CASEY'S fault! The only thing I will add here is that IF they don't get a handle on the spoiled bi*** that they call gorgeous, sweetheart and so on, their whole lives are going to nothing but in ruins. They need to stop lying for her, tell what they know, get rid of the guilt and place the blame where it should be and THAT is with CASEY!

[Rick777]

I agree to a point, during those visits I saw a lot of anger in Cindy, I think she had a clue early on. It made me sick to hear the way George babied Casey.


True. And everytime Cindy asks something REMOTELY interesting, Casey flips and asks for the phone to be handed to Daddy.

[WillowInFlight]

The diff is that George wasn't put in the trusting hands of "Zenaida".

Great point LOL. This IMVHO was nothing more than a cry for help. Most people that are going to commit suicide do not call family members and notify them of their plans, they just do it. I'm not trying to take anything away from George but how many more twists is this case going to take?

[legalmania]

George Anthony is the last person to see Caylee and Casey. Could George Anthony be the famous Zenaida? Did Casey leave little Caylee and when she came back dad told her the babysitter story, with that Casey began looking? Or is George Anthony and innocent victim? The plot thickens.

[StillEG]

Not sure hon, I just logged in and ViennaGal had sent me a PM telling me about George.


OK, I read over on another forum (ws) that he texted 2 people and Cindy was not one of them. He was unconscious when found but was resucitated? Wonder how much of that is true?

[Lavenia]

I have been in and out of here most of the morning, but had to say that ITA with this post, jammies. Each and every one of this family has made their very own beds. This is not Cindy's fault that George is suicidal, it is CASEY'S fault! The only thing I will add here is that IF they don't get a handle on the spoiled bi*** that they call gorgeous, sweetheart and so on, their whole lives are going to nothing but in ruins. They need to stop lying for her, tell what they know, get rid of the guilt and place the blame where it should be and THAT is with CASEY!

Spirit, that boat has SAILED! There is no getting a handle on her at this point. They can get a handle on themselves and how they react to her, though, you're right on that. But she is a lost cause, IMO.

[Postergeist]

Why? Why would she do that? She could have cut him loose, said good riddance, I don't need you. He tried to leave her and she talked him into coming back. She didn't need to bankrupt the family just to get him out of a hole. He would have gone. He wanted to go.

Perhaps she said "Our daughter is pregnant, we're going to have a grandbaby who won't have a father in its life, you have to be the father, we need you." But he was just another millstone around her neck and he didn't really want to be with her, so what made him so valuable to her that she would tie a string around him at that point?


The info I read on this goes back to last summer, posts on Topix by the brother of Cindy, then later emails released between the brother & mother of Cindy etc. but I'll put an IMO since I don't have the links handy (many still survive tho on other MBs and old threads at Topix)

- Cindy would've had to pay alimony/spousal support to George and give him half the value of their home, etc.

Basically it boiled down to "cheaper to keep him"

imo

[Rick777]

There may be no actual attemp at suicide, or an actual plan. Just the text saying he feels suicidal may have been enough.

[Jeepers]

George missing 2 hours: call the police get the helicopters

Caylee missing 31 days: call tattoo place, call friends for party at fusion


What am I missing?


The words "Priceless"

Justice for Caylee

[PuffDragon]

Puffdragon

Respectfully,I believe Cindy is in alot of pain. Why can't she be afforded the same consideration.

Where is there evidence George was a 'battered' man. I do see Cindy as having a controlling personality, and I do see George as appearing to be submissive,however, too little is known, and appearances are often decieving. We do not know their true relationship, we do not know many things. I will not make the leap from controlling personality to abuser with as little information and evidence that there is.

I wish this pain on nobody. George is obviously going through hell, but I believe that Cindy is too, and to say things like 'he probably couldn't stand to even look at her anymore' is imo really harsh. I will not blame Cindy for George's actions.

I pray he is able to recieve the help he needs and that he can begin to heal. I pray that for Cindy too.


above is moo

A controlling person is an abuser. He takes away the will of the person he is abusing. We all agree that Cindy is a controlling person. That makes her an abuser in my eyes.

Actually, I do believe Cindy is in pain, and I do have compassion for her in her loss. But like a lot of other controlling personalities she had everybody under her thumb from a long time before and it gave her the feeling that she had control of everything. She turned off a lot of people who would be with her right now consoling and crying with her if that was something she would allow. I have a feeling she doesn't know how to let that happen. You can have all the compassion and sympathy that you want, it isn't going to do anything to help Cindy, she knows better than anybody what's right for her. I don't really care what made her like that. I'm sorry she's in pain. I'm sorry for the pain she has selfishly caused others. But I don't care about her, as far as I'm concerned she's a product of her own selfishness.

[aubrey04]

George Anthony being stabilized in ER
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8299251&version=29&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Daytona Beach Police Chief Michael Chitwood said George sent text messages to his family that he wanted to end his life. Chitwood said George told him that there was a lot of pressure on him and he needed to think.

George was Baker Acted, or involuntarily taken to Halifax Medical Center. He was personally driven to the hospital by the police chief.

No drugs or weapons were found inside his room at the Hawaii Motel on South Atlantic Avenue early Friday morning.

George had other items with him at the hotel but the details of those items are not being released. They are being turned over to the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

"We do know George Anthony is saying I don't want to live anymore," Chitwood said.

ETA ~ Why are the "other items" being turned over to OCSO?

Wow. Thanks for posting this. I just heard the news. This is terrible. I can't say I am surprised. I think George has been suicidal for some time. I am glad LE got to him before he did anything to himself.. this is so sad.

[WillowInFlight]

I have been in and out of here most of the morning, but had to say that ITA with this post, jammies. Each and every one of this family has made their very own beds. This is not Cindy's fault that George is suicidal, it is CASEY'S fault! The only thing I will add here is that IF they don't get a handle on the spoiled bi*** that they call gorgeous, sweetheart and so on, their whole lives are going to nothing but in ruins. They need to stop lying for her, tell what they know, get rid of the guilt and place the blame where it should be and THAT is with CASEY!

Good morning dear Spirit. I think their lives are already ruined, How do you come back from having a daughter who murdered your granddaughter. Either George knows something and it's eating him alive or he feels very guilty for not putting a stop to Casey years ago.

[Rick777]

Great point LOL. This IMVHO was nothing more than a cry for help. Most people that are going to commit suicide do not call family members and notify them of their plans, they just do it. I'm not trying to take anything away from George but how many more twists is this case going to take?

Exactly. Get out of my head!! :biggrin:

[bchand]

OK, I read over on another forum (ws) that he texted 2 people and Cindy was not one of them. He was unconscious when found but was resucitated? Wonder how much of that is true?


I saw nothing about him being unconscious. In fact there is raw video of him walking to a car and getting in on his own 2 feet.

[Regina.Lampert]

had to go back and find your post desmom after I thought about your question for a bit-

do you think possibly there were items that somehow relate to the murder investigation?

Maybe he had items that had been removed from Casey's car back in June that the family never turned over to police

or something he put on a thumb drive

could be a myriad of items that either point towards or away from his daughter that he wanted found when he was found??

Oh wow Postie, the thought that george may have left "evidence" against casey in that motel along with his note is very interesting.

The fact that these things were turned over the OCSD's investigators tells us they are connected to the case. imo.

[kOOkie1]

I cant imagine how any of the A's even stay in that house to begin with. It has to be haunting knowing the possibility that Caylee was murdered there..placed in the backyard not to mention she was around the corner all this time in a trash bag. I guess I will never understand how they have allowed this torture upon themselves.

[KathR]

I feel so sad for that poor family. I have never blamed the for believing the psycho they raised or even that they raised her. She is not their fault.

I hope George gets help and he and Cindy can turn to each other for support. Lee too.

I agree. It is time for Casey to tell the truth, plea guilty or go with an immediate trial, and let her poor family heal.

[WillowInFlight]

from what i read from Shirley's emails, Cindy was determinded that Geo not get half of the house....apparently per the divorce laws in FL, Cindy would have to sell the house & give Geo half, since she was the sole provider (for the most part) for the household....Geo wanted half the proceeds from the sale of the house...Cindy would stand for that, so she 'kept' him...

eta...i might be mistaken, but i think the home is in Cindy's name only

Yes I believe you are right. What a toxic group of people.

[Calla]

Calla and Barbara, these are both beautiful posts. I'm not sure I agree with everything. I guess I am too mad at George for his handling of Caylee's memory. However, these words you have both written show that you have beautiful souls and can see past that. See that he may have done that unintentionally and is dealing with his own private pain, probably with a lot of guilt for maybe the way he has treated Caylee's memory. I am glad he didn't take his life, that would definitely be tragic. I wish I had such a good heart as the two of you. I am a little jealous. KWIM?

well that's nice and tx to all who appreciated my post.

If it makes you feel better ..I have a beautiful soul but my face makes me look like a hard hearted B****. I am so misunderstood.
Don't be jealous, you can get there. Hope it doesn't come from the kind of hard knocks I have experienced and you can attain it by learning vicariously through experiences expressed here.
I think George feels as if he failed Casey miserably because he hasn't accepted what she is. He really still believes he could have prevented her from becoming what she became. He is experiencing parental guilt in an extreme way and when you are there, you can't see the reality.

[destiny1]

WOW, I don't know what to think, I feel bad sure, but I still can't shake that last interview with LKL where he outright lied. Guilt must be eating him up. Just another victim of Casey. I do think that if he knows anything now maybe the time he talks, especially if he is away from Cindy.

He lied.
We don't know excatly how much he helped with the coverup.
I feel that he had a choice in the matter, and from his behavior early in the investigation, he was a very conflicted soul. I believe that he wanted to be truthful from the beginning, but that his dedication to his family kept him from doing so.


I know I will get beat up for this, but I believe that george is suffering tremendously, and that he deserves some compassion.


This in no way takes away from my desire to see full justice for Caylee Marie Anthony, for I believe that she has been dealt the ultimate injustice and has not received any justice throughout her much-too-short life.

[Elle]

George Anthony is the last person to see Caylee and Casey. Could George Anthony be the famous Zenaida? Did Casey leave little Caylee and when she came back dad told her the babysitter story, with that Casey began looking? Or is George Anthony and innocent victim? The plot thickens.

Looking? When did Casey Anthony look for anything other than a free ride?
(are you being serious?)
imo

[PuffDragon]

if i had to guess, i'd say pills..

They said no drugs were found.

[Lilly12]

So you think this may have been staged to garner sympathy? Wow You're giving me second thoughts here.


Worst then that. The defense can finger George. There were three people in that house. I would not be surprised if this is the plan, by the defense lawyers and the Anthonys. ( He can't live with thought HE killed Caylee). Georege will fall on the the sword. Did anyone see Fox TV around 9:15? They were discussing the case. My opinion only.

[PuffDragon]

(My bolding)

Appearances?

I suppose. That's so depressing.

[desmom]

had to go back and find your post desmom after I thought about your question for a bit-

do you think possibly there were items that somehow relate to the murder investigation?

Maybe he had items that had been removed from Casey's car back in June that the family never turned over to police

or something he put on a thumb drive

could be a myriad of items that either point towards or away from his daughter that he wanted found when he was found??

I agree. The "other items" reported by MyFox Orlando does not make me think it is a note. http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8299251&version=33&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

I think the items are something he wanted to be found, but he could not bring himself to turn it in to LE. jmo

[Pat]

Given the horror I felt when I read about the heart on the duct tape, (and I didn't know this child, much less was a grandparent), if George found out about this when we did, I can see where it would have pushed him over the edge.

[tybek]

good point, Rick

I agree that it is a good point and not to sound cynical, but the incident appears to be generating more sympathy for the parents who are trying to be granted immunity at a time when public opinion is largely against them.

That said, I do think he may be suicidal which is understandable given this messed up situation. It will be interesting to see if he still supports Casey in the same manner from here out. Maybe this is his breaking point in supporting the charade. JMO

[WillowInFlight]

I feel so sad for that poor family. I have never blamed the for believing the psycho they raised or even that they raised her. She is not their fault.

I hope George gets help and he and Cindy can turn to each other for support. Lee too.

I agree. It is time for Casey to tell the truth, plea guilty or go with an immediate trial, and let her poor family heal.

I'm sorry I respectfully disagree, IMO Cindy and George do own some responsibility for Casey's actions, they should have put an end to her charades years ago but it was easier to deal with her when they turned the other cheek.

[Rick777]

I'm sure Casey will be sympathetic to George when she talks to him.

"...Come on dad..pull yourself together! You are letting the family down! You need to be strong for caylee, but mostly for me! Give the phone to mom until you can get back on track with the plan the brings our family back together!"