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jusdafacts
01-23-2009, 03:39 AM
George Anthony, father of Casey Anthony, has been reported missing.
The lead investigator in the case and several Orange County sheriff's deputies were reported at the house of George and Cindy Anthony early Friday morning. A Sheriff's Office helicopter was also at the scene, along with the Anthonys' son, Lee, and their attorney Brad Conway.
Investigative sources say George Anthony left his home early Thursday morning and hasn't been seen since. The sources say he sent what were described as "disturbing" text messages to family members. There is some indication he may be Volusia County.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html

RiverWalk
01-23-2009, 03:44 AM
I just got a report that Tim Miller was gathering the "troops" to go look for George tomorrow.

George is OKAY.

shelkobe
01-23-2009, 03:46 AM
I was just looking through the wftv.com site and saw the story... haven't even finished reading it. Oh boy, this is not good.

Calla
01-23-2009, 03:47 AM
That Tim Miller is a heck of a man.

jusdafacts
01-23-2009, 03:50 AM
A friend of Tim Miller's has been posting on another forum.

Apparently George notified two people he knew truly cared for him that he was going to take his own life, and why. Cindy was not one of the two.

Tim is in Houston and is planning to leave for Florida to help search for George. He asks all of you for prayers for George. Still don't know if George is in danger of dying. Have no idea yet if George is still in danger of dying."

George did not reach out to Tim. He reached out to two people who then immediately reached out to Tim. Tim has always loved George and felt so badly for the horrible pressures on him.
__________________

Calla
01-23-2009, 03:50 AM
I know George had reportedly purchased a gun and even implied at one point that he considered doing something..

This is the reason I said all along that I refuse to bash those people and I resented those people who chose to yell outside their home.

I don't care how much you disagree with someone, harrassing them and kicking them when they are down is just not how I do things.



My prayers have been with this family from the get go and will continue to be.

RiverWalk
01-23-2009, 03:53 AM
George taken to Halifax hospital. I don't know where that is.

Neffy
01-23-2009, 03:55 AM
George taken to Halifax hospital. I don't know where that is.

http://www.halifaxhealth.org/locations/medicalcenterofdaytonabeach.aspx

This is volusia county

Maybe this one?

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 03:56 AM
I know George had reportedly purchased a gun and even implied at one point that he considered doing something..

This is the reason I said all along that I refuse to bash those people and I resented those people who chose to yell outside their home.

I don't care how much you disagree with someone, harrassing them and kicking them when they are down is just not how I do things.



My prayers have been with this family from the get go and will continue to be.

You know, I understand his stress, but you don't go about killing yourself or come up missing. A strong person, will endure and fight what is right for his granddaughter. Fight for justice! I know it is hard, because you are dealing with a evil daughter, but fight for your granddaughter. To me, IMO is a weak action! Come On!!

nana2
01-23-2009, 03:56 AM
Prayers for George

:rose:

RiverWalk
01-23-2009, 03:58 AM
http://www.halifaxhealth.org/locations/medicalcenterofdaytonabeach.aspx

This is volusia county

Maybe this one?

Most likely.

Another text: Cindy at home. BC at house. Det. A (I think he means Allen??)

I called a guy I used to date and woke him and told him to turn on the TV and then text me. HA. He's doing it.

jusdafacts
01-23-2009, 04:02 AM
The Anthonys’ attorney, Brad Conway, said George was OK. He was taken into custody under Florida’s Baker Act which allows the state to hold people involuntarily pending a psychiatric evaluation.

Update from WFTV (http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html)

Neffy
01-23-2009, 04:03 AM
Most likely.

Another text: Cindy at home. BC at house. Det. A (I think he means Allen??)

I called a guy I used to date and woke him and told him to turn on the TV and then text me. HA. He's doing it.

OMG he must think your nuts. Or to late to think it now? LOL j/k
(and keep posting what you get)

shelkobe
01-23-2009, 04:03 AM
I called a guy I used to date and woke him and told him to turn on the TV and then text me. HA. He's doing it.
Make sure you thank him for us. My ex-boyfriends are good for nothin'. :tongueside:

This is not the time to bash George. The weight on his heart must be incredibly heavy as he is the only one in the family who has faced up to what has been going on in this case, regardless of what he has said in public to placate Cindy.

RiverWalk
01-23-2009, 04:05 AM
The Anthonys’ attorney, Brad Conway, said George was OK. He was taken into custody under Florida’s Baker Act which allows the state to hold people involuntarily pending a psychiatric evaluation.

Update from WFTV (http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html)

That's the same link I posted earlier??

Neffy
01-23-2009, 04:05 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- George Anthony, father of Casey Anthony, was reported missing, Friday morning. He was later found at a Daytona Beach motel.

The Anthonys’ attorney, Brad Conway, said George was OK. He was taken into custody under Florida’s Baker Act which allows the state to hold people involuntarily pending a psychiatric evaluation.

RiverWalk
01-23-2009, 04:06 AM
OMG he must think your nuts. Or to late to think it now? LOL j/k
(and keep posting what you get)

He said "night". We are just good buds now. We email about the case alllll the time.

jusdafacts
01-23-2009, 04:06 AM
That's the same link I posted earlier??

Possibly - it was updated 6 minutes ago. Didn't see yours - bouncing between numerous sites to keep updated.

Neffy
01-23-2009, 04:06 AM
That's the same link I posted earlier??

Correct. The article has changed - is updating

shelkobe
01-23-2009, 04:07 AM
Where is Daytona in relation to Orlando? Like distance-wise and such? Maybe a long drive alone allowed him to clear his head somewhat.

Calla
01-23-2009, 04:07 AM
Don't you really hope Casey was informed of this?

Don't you hope she will have to realize her role in it and tell the truth?

I don't know why she played a different game with George but she did and I would like to see this make her respond in some fashion.

I know I know

jusdafacts
01-23-2009, 04:09 AM
Don't you really hope Casey was informed of this?

Don't you hope she will have to realize her role in it and tell the truth?

I don't know why she played a different game with George but she did and I would like to see this make her respond in some fashion.

I know I know

The sad thing is, she'll probably react just the way we all expect her to - pizzed that it's not all about her at the moment.... JMO

Neffy
01-23-2009, 04:09 AM
He said "night". We are just good buds now. We email about the case alllll the time.

Ah not so bad then. Text him back IS says "night" and tx

TY too!

shelkobe
01-23-2009, 04:10 AM
Don't you really hope Casey was informed of this?

Don't you hope she will have to realize her role in it and tell the truth?

I don't know why she played a different game with George but she did and I would like to see this make her respond in some fashion.

I know I know
Casey won't blame herself. But you know that Calla. That's how most of us would react. But of course, most of us would not kill our daughters.

Calla
01-23-2009, 04:13 AM
wonder if Greta is on the case?

I dont know why I thot of that,,...maybe because she asked Cindy if everything was ok and she shook her head "no" last week

Calla
01-23-2009, 04:14 AM
Thank you all for the updates and keeping me up til 3 a.m.:angry:

nite now..err mornin

see ya later on

RiverWalk
01-23-2009, 04:16 AM
I emailed him that and told him all about y'all.

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This may be harsh, but BY GOSH see what can happen when you report someone missing as soon as your are scared witless. YOU can be FOUND.

Kuddos again to the Florida LE that involved in tracking George Anthony down to that hotel.

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:22 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- George Anthony, father of Casey Anthony, was reported missing, Friday morning. He was later found at a Daytona Beach motel.

The Anthonys’ attorney, Brad Conway, said George was OK. He was taken into custody under Florida’s Baker Act which allows the state to hold people involuntarily pending a psychiatric evaluation.

The driving distance between Orlando and Daytona Beach is about 52 miles.

Under the Florida Baker Act, they can hold you up to 72 hours.

imo

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:23 AM
That Tim Miller is a heck of a man.
An Angel of God.

RiverWalk
01-23-2009, 04:25 AM
an angel of god.

amen............!

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:25 AM
You know, I understand his stress, but you don't go about killing yourself or come up missing. A strong person, will endure and fight what is right for his granddaughter. Fight for justice! I know it is hard, because you are dealing with a evil daughter, but fight for your granddaughter. To me, IMO is a weak action! Come On!!
I believe he really didn't want to kill himself or he wouldn't have texted people about it - announcing his intentions.

I believe George is overwhelmed (understatement) and just doesn't know what to do with the horrible truth he is now facing about Casey. He needs help and I believe he needs to unburden himself of whatever he is keeping inside.

imo

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:27 AM
Where is Daytona in relation to Orlando? Like distance-wise and such? Maybe a long drive alone allowed him to clear his head somewhat.
52 miles is the driving distance between Orlando and Daytona Beach.

shelkobe
01-23-2009, 04:28 AM
The driving distance between Orlando and Daytona Beach is about 52 miles.

Under the Florida Baker Act, they can hold you up to 72 hours.

imo
Thanks on the info. about the distance.

Neffy
01-23-2009, 04:28 AM
The driving distance between Orlando and Daytona Beach is about 52 miles.

Under the Florida Baker Act, they can hold you up to 72 hours.

imo


TYVM for that information!

Neffy
01-23-2009, 04:29 AM
I believe he really didn't want to kill himself or he wouldn't have texted people about it - announcing his intentions.

I believe George is overwhelmed (understatement) and just doesn't know what to do with the horrible truth he is now facing about Casey. He needs help and I believe he needs to unburden himself of whatever he is keeping inside.

imo

I so much agree with this.

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:29 AM
TYVM for that information!
I am in shock. :(

RiverWalk
01-23-2009, 04:29 AM
I believe he really didn't want to kill himself or he wouldn't have texted people about it - announcing his intentions.

I believe George is overwhelmed and just doesn't know what to do with the horrible truth he is now facing about Casey. He needs help and I believe he needs to unburden himself of whatever he is keeping inside.

imo

The A's need serious HELP. They can still love Casey yet abhor her actions. They can face the truth and still love their daughter and honor CAYLEE. They need immense help . . . all of them, but truth has to come first.

MOO

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:30 AM
I so much agree with this.
Poor George. Nowhere to turn. Just wants to turn himself inside out - turn back the clock.......:(

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 04:32 AM
I believe he really didn't want to kill himself or he wouldn't have texted people about it - announcing his intentions.

I believe George is overwhelmed (understatement) and just doesn't know what to do with the horrible truth he is now facing about Casey. He needs help and I believe he needs to unburden himself of whatever he is keeping inside.

imo

I agree, either kill yourself or fight the fight....I'm sorry, but I have had about enough of the A's!

If I felt my daughter killed my granddaughter, I wouldn't be running away, I would be seeking the truth and dealing with it! Remember, it is about little innocent Caylee! IMO!

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:33 AM
The A's need serious HELP. They can still love Casey yet abhor her actions. They can face the truth and still love their daughter and honor CAYLEE. They need immense help . . . all of them, but truth has to come first.

MOO

I agree, yes, immense help. The lies are devastating him. I can imagine he can only be thinking - How can he go on? How can he face anybody? He must feel like such a failure.

We parents are the first to beat ourselves up.

imo

Neffy
01-23-2009, 04:35 AM
I am in shock. :(

Again ITA! Overwhelming information!!

He had NO ONE to talk to? Sad really sad.

They all needed counseling/treatment yesterday.

He's been living a nightmare charade for a long time.

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:35 AM
You are right, for most people it is just a strong cry for help.
Yes, his calling Tim Miller - of all people! It almost sounds like a child who has had a temper tantrum with their parent, yet the second the child is in trouble - they call the parent to help them.

"Something" about Tim Miller must have driven George to cry out to him for help.

Neffy
01-23-2009, 04:37 AM
Yes, his calling Tim Miller - of all people! It almost sounds like a child who has had a temper tantrum with their parent, yet the second the child is in trouble - they call the parent to help them.

"Something" about Tim Miller must have driven George to cry out to him for help.

FWIW and from another site it's my understanding George didn't call Tim but someone contacted Tim.

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:37 AM
Again ITA! Overwhelming information!!

He had NO ONE to talk to? Sad really sad.

They all needed counseling/treatment yesterday.

He's been living a nightmare charade for a long time.
Yes, it finally caught up. What a horrible situation. George could no longer live the deceptive charade. They need help - STAT!

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:38 AM
FWIW and from another site it's my understanding George didn't call Tim but someone contacted Tim.

Oh, thanks Neffy. It is amazing how things work.

RiverWalk
01-23-2009, 04:38 AM
Yes, his calling Tim Miller - of all people! It almost sounds like a child who has had a temper tantrum with their parent, yet the second the child is in trouble - they call the parent to help them.

"Something" about Tim Miller must have driven George to cry out to him for help.

He didn't call Tim. He called/texted two people (unnamed and NOT Cindy). One called Tim and then Tim started making plans/calls to go find the "missing" George.

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:39 AM
Yup, parental guilt will kill ya if ya let it. I know from experience, woulda, coulda, shoulda. jmo
This is the truth, Aame. You are not alone in this. :(

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:41 AM
He didn't call Tim. He called/texted two people (unnamed and NOT Cindy). One called Tim and then Tim started making plans/calls to go find the "missing" George.
Thanks RiverWalk. Isn't it amazing how it went so quickly to Tim, who has the pull to get LE moving. I'm in awe.

RiverWalk
01-23-2009, 04:41 AM
This is the truth, Aame. You are not alone in this. :(

Move to the other thread. Our local poster (Peter) is awake!!

Neffy
01-23-2009, 04:41 AM
:seeya:

Take care everyone!

nothingnew
01-23-2009, 04:41 AM
I believe he really didn't want to kill himself or he wouldn't have texted people about it - announcing his intentions.

I believe George is overwhelmed (understatement) and just doesn't know what to do with the horrible truth he is now facing about Casey. He needs help and I believe he needs to unburden himself of whatever he is keeping inside.

imo

Isn't he supposed to be deposed next week for the ZFG lawsuit? Hate to sound cold but if he wants to unburden himself then he'll go through with talking with John Morgan and not have his lawyer attempt to use this as a way out of it.
Earlier today I was thinking that lee would be the one that needed someone to keep an eye on him.
I can't help it, I just question the actions of all of the anthonys these days.

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:42 AM
I agree, either kill yourself or fight the fight....I'm sorry, but I have had about enough of the A's!

If I felt my daughter killed my granddaughter, I wouldn't be running away, I would be seeking the truth and dealing with it! Remember, it is about little innocent Caylee! IMO!
The Anthonys just went about everything in the wrong way - they never righted their mistakes, never appreciated the help they received, burned important bridges and even stood in LE's way. It could only lead to this disaster.

If this happened to my family, I would not be able to get out of bed in the morning - from day one.

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:44 AM
:seeya:

Take care everyone!
Night, Neffy. We'll have trouble sleeping after this news.

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:47 AM
I think George wants to be strong, but has Cindy and her entire family to contend with. George knows that Tim can relate to what he is going through. Even Tim admits, that in the beginning he was not in his right mind either.

I know when my daughter was killed, it left me totally unable to do anything for a long time. By the time I was willing to face reality (my reality) my physical health was in jeporady. it's been 13 yrs and I still suffer.
The fact that the relationships in that family were all so toxic and broken, each member must feel very lonely. These kind of life altering events will finish it off.

Oh, Aame.....my heart breaks for you. No parent should ever experience what you did. May God bless you. :rose:

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 04:52 AM
Move to the other thread. Our local poster (Peter) is awake!!
Thanks for the heads up - heading there now!

legalease
01-23-2009, 05:00 AM
I didn't have time to read through everything so this may have already been posted or discussed but I'll add it anyway just in case. Here's the link and first paragraph of the article.

Poor George.....


http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html#-

George Anthony Reported Missing

Friday, January 23, 2009 – updated: 3:32 am EST January 23, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- George Anthony, father of Casey Anthony, was reported missing, Friday morning. He was later found at a Daytona Beach motel.

The Anthonys' attorney, Brad Conway, said George was OK. He was taken into custody under Florida's Baker Act which allows the state to hold people involuntarily pending a psychiatric evaluation.

jusdafacts
01-23-2009, 05:08 AM
Brad Conway interview re: George Anthony Found (http://www.wftv.com/video/18546097/index.html)

legalease
01-23-2009, 05:18 AM
I think George wants to be strong, but has Cindy and her entire family to contend with. George knows that Tim can relate to what he is going through. Even Tim admits, that in the beginning he was not in his right mind either.

I know when my daughter was killed, it left me totally unable to do anything for a long time. By the time I was willing to face reality (my reality) my physical health was in jeporady. it's been 13 yrs and I still suffer.

I'm so sorry for your loss - but thank you for being so strong that you got through what must have been unbearable, and for continuing to stay in the world with us, so you may have warm and loving memories of your daughter.

happygert
01-23-2009, 05:53 AM
George taken to Halifax hospital. I don't know where that is.

Daytona ..........

Explorer
01-23-2009, 05:57 AM
that girl sure did make a mess. she ruined lives. what a mess!

n/t
01-23-2009, 06:10 AM
Wow! Woke up to this news. :ohmy:

Shyone
01-23-2009, 06:15 AM
So George is under the Baker Act...Do you think he will snap and tell all that he knows.?.

n/t
01-23-2009, 06:21 AM
So George is under the Baker Act...Do you think he will snap and tell all that he knows.?.

Not sure what Baker Act is. Can someone give me a short version please. TIA

n/t
01-23-2009, 06:26 AM
Really ironic. I was watching NG last night and a caller asked about the Anthonys and if they were at home or somewhere else because they've been out of the spotlight since Caylee's remains were found. The caller asked if anyone had seen them go out,,,,getting groceries, the day to day stuff. The reporter said she hadn't seen them and believed they were inside the house.

lady
01-23-2009, 06:27 AM
That Casey has caused so many problems for not only her family&friends but the whole Country.
Poor George, I know he has had enough, but poor Cindy having to deal with all this all by herself.
I don't hate many people.

Shyone
01-23-2009, 06:29 AM
Baker Act law in Florida, You can be hospitalized for 72 hrs unvoluntarily for mental evaluations. So evidently he was having thoughts of harming himself.

Shyone
01-23-2009, 06:33 AM
I know this should be posted on the other Thread..but I'm just still in SHOCK with the heart shaped sticker thing...

n/t
01-23-2009, 06:36 AM
That Casey has caused so many problems for not only her family&friends but the whole Country.
Poor George, I know he has had enough, but poor Cindy having to deal with all this all by herself.
I don't hate many people.

Sadly, I think this family had problems before this ever happened. We've just recently started to get a glimpse of the dysfunction.

A few examples:

Casey lying about her pregnancy
Cindy denying Casey was pregnant
George and Casey were not on good terms - fighting
Casey yelling at George as much as Cindy did. Very telling.
Debts - money issues (based on Cindy's statement that she couldn't afford to adopt Caylee)

I'm sure there's tons more we don't even know about yet. I didn't want to post the "rumours" but I think we've all heard about George and the fights with his own father, Cindy with her brother, etc etc.

We can see that they didn't have a support system at all except for lawyers, PI's and a few strangers. No family members or friends to offer comfort. They lived in this dysfunctional bubble, feeding off each other, imo.

n/t
01-23-2009, 06:37 AM
Do we know who he sent these distraught messages to?

n/t
01-23-2009, 06:38 AM
Baker Act law in Florida, You can be hospitalized for 72 hrs unvoluntarily for mental evaluations. So evidently he was having thoughts of harming himself.

Thank you.

ImTelling
01-23-2009, 06:51 AM
This is just my opinion, and it's not based on anything I've read in this thread, but elsewhere.

I truly believe that Caylee loved her grandparents. I know they've done a lot to earn peoples' scorn and wrath, but maybe, just maybe, it might be more respectful to Caylee's memory if more people were to be less hostile to the people she had loved??

I think it's fine to publicly point out the things they've done, and the mistakes they've made, but where do people draw the line between that and bashing George and Cynthia? It's one thing to discuss a specific action they should/shouldn't have taken, but why do some people then have to stoop to gossip that has no basis in any facts known so far?

I just have a horrible mental image of the guy, sitting in the motel room, trying to decide what to do. Should he keep living or end it all? He turns on his laptop, does a search and finds some of the nasty and mean spirited posts about him. (I don't think that happened at all, I just have an active imagination.)

I know Caylee was/is a toddler, and only had childlike perceptions. But if she had been a young adult and had been murdered, how do you think she would feel, looking down from Heaven, about the way some people bash George and Cynthia?

crymeariver2006
01-23-2009, 07:06 AM
I know this should be posted on the other Thread..but I'm just still in SHOCK with the heart shaped sticker thing...

I know what you mean. I posted a day or so ago that this latest document drop was the most emotionally upsetting that I had seen.

NYGalPal
01-23-2009, 07:12 AM
This case just gets more and more bizaar. I kinda feel bad for George. Maybe he'll finally get it all off his chest.

KKKKKKatie
01-23-2009, 07:14 AM
Just woke up and am reading about last nights events :ohmy:

I just hope that George will accept the help that he desperately needs and that Cindy will follow suit.....

aproudmom
01-23-2009, 07:16 AM
Thank God GA is ok he has been through alot because of his daughter and the loss of Caylee. This is a time to stop the blaming and bashing of the Anthonys not including cayee. They are hurting more than any of us know and I am sure will always support thier daughter most parents would.

this is just MO

NYGalPal
01-23-2009, 07:23 AM
aproudmom,

You are on the wrong thread. If you could read, you would see there is no bashing here. Time for you to stop signing up for extra nics and tell us what we can and cannot say. Stop taking this thread OT. hammer

PuffDragon
01-23-2009, 07:27 AM
I agree and disagree. He's lost 2 family members here, and is under a media microscope. Wouldn't that effect the average person? Cindy also has to be driving him potty.

I feel sorry for George, and apologize for ever bashing him in the past. He'll get thru this -- it just sounds like he needed some alone time from the entire ordeal - including Cindy. Now that she doesn't have anyone else to talk to in the home, can you imagine what George is going thru.

JMHO

I have been expecting something like this. I always felt that George sang the Cindy song because he was trained that Cindy was the one who know better than anybody how to deal with trouble and so he did what he was told and let her take care of it, hoping she was right. I know somebody exactly like that. If you surrender your mind for long enough it stops trying to work. So he must have been in much more of an emotional mess than we could see when he was no longer able to avoid the evidence that Caylee was never coming home and his daughter was responsible. Add to that living in the same house with Cindy who has now apparently grabbed on to the "Zanny did it" defense, he had no comfort, no one to unburden himself to, and a bleak future. Out of the 3 of them (I don't have enough of a take on Lee to make a guess) he was the one most likely to abandon the situation, one way or another. I wonder what Cindy is thinking now? Will she be taking any responsibility for what just happened?

n/t
01-23-2009, 07:27 AM
This case just gets more and more bizaar. I kinda feel bad for George. Maybe he'll finally get it all off his chest.

I hope you're right. IMO, saying the truth and telling what he knows to Law Enforcement is the first step in the healing process and justice for his little granddaughter. We've seen George blow up many times and this comes as no big surprise. I think he's torn between doing the right thing for his granddaughter and putting his daughter in jail for life.

IMO, he knew the truth all along but had to keep up this facade for Cindy's sake. Maybe he felt he had to. To make up for the lost times when he wasn't around. Who knows. I think it's time for the Anthonys (all of them) to finally do the right thing for Caylee.

hamebone
01-23-2009, 07:29 AM
OMG, glad they found him. Maybe now he will get some help. Cindy and George both need mentalheath care.

KKKKKKatie
01-23-2009, 07:30 AM
I started a daily thread for us

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=348194

PuffDragon
01-23-2009, 07:30 AM
Does anyone but me believe LE had a tracking device implanted on that car. If they couldn't find Caylee by Caysey's cell phone pings, how did they find George so darn fast? And in Daytona no less!

Very odd if you ask me.

He made a couple of phone calls. LE could have tracked his pings. And he might have given a clue to whomever he spoke with. We don't know anything yet.

NYGalPal
01-23-2009, 07:32 AM
I hope you're right. IMO, saying the truth and telling what he knows to Law Enforcement is the first step in the healing process and justice for his little granddaughter. We've seen George blow up many times and this comes as no big surprise. I think he's torn between doing the right thing for his granddaughter and putting his daughter in jail for life.

IMO, he knew the truth all along but had to keep up this facade for Cindy's sake. Maybe he felt he had to. To make up for the lost times when he wasn't around. Who knows. I think it's time for the Anthonys (all of them) to finally do the right thing for Caylee.

Guilt is a very powerful emotion. Can you imagine waking up one day realizing you raised a monster?

It is time to support Caylee for once. Tell the truth and stop supporting the murderer.

PuffDragon
01-23-2009, 07:40 AM
But what a great chapter in the book he/or Cindy is writing. I don't believe he had any intentions of killing himself - just needed to get from Cooky (Cindy).

Unless we hear that he told somebody where he was, I have a feeling that might not have been the proverbial call for help but a real suicide attempt. If they 'were able to resuscitate him' it sounds like he actually did something to himself, that was pretty quick for someone who was hoping to be found. I don't think he was looking for attention and I can honestly see him looking for a way out. For now I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

n/t
01-23-2009, 07:53 AM
Unless we hear that he told somebody where he was, I have a feeling that might not have been the proverbial call for help but a real suicide attempt. If they 'were able to resuscitate him' it sounds like he actually did something to himself, that was pretty quick for someone who was hoping to be found. I don't think he was looking for attention and I can honestly see him looking for a way out. For now I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Where did you read or hear that they were able to resuscitate him?:confused:

This link says

"When they arrived on the scene, George was talking to them and was fine," said Conway. "We’re having him checked out to be sure."

http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html

Regina.Lampert
01-23-2009, 08:05 AM
Prayers going up for george anthony this morning.

IMO, this is what deceit, denial and covering up your true emotions can do to a person. From the very beginning when cynthia demanded that george not sit around all day crying, and to instead shape up instead of allowing him go grieve his losses.

Way too much pressure for a human being. I hope he is going to be okay, at least now he is under a doctor's care.

Will cynthia now, at long last, come to the light? Time will tell. I just hope he doesn't make things worse for george.

And thank God they didn't wait 31 days to call for help, this time.

CNTM
01-23-2009, 08:12 AM
I don't think George would have walked to the police chiefs car had he been resuscitated.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18546141/index.html

PuffDragon
01-23-2009, 08:13 AM
Where did you read or hear that they were able to resuscitate him?:confused:

This link says

"When they arrived on the scene, George was talking to them and was fine," said Conway. "We’re having him checked out to be sure."

http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html

I went back and looked and I think the page has been updated because it doesn't say that any more (I sure hope somebody else saw it so I won't think I've been hallucinating) so probably the earlier report was in error.

CNTM
01-23-2009, 08:14 AM
They are updating the pages fast and it could very well have been there and removed.

Such a sad time for George,I do hope he can get help and recover.

StarShine
01-23-2009, 08:15 AM
Thank God GA is ok he has been through alot because of his daughter and the loss of Caylee. This is a time to stop the blaming and bashing of the Anthonys not including cayee. They are hurting more than any of us know and I am sure will always support thier daughter most parents would.

this is just MO

And you are entitled to your opinion. ITA with you.

PuffDragon
01-23-2009, 08:26 AM
They are updating the pages fast and it could very well have been there and removed.

Such a sad time for George,I do hope he can get help and recover.

I think that's so. I heard it one time on the early news too, they probably picked it up from the same report.

Yes, it is a sad time for him, obviously he has gone beyond the point where he can cope with it. I hope that once he recovers from this he gets himself away from home for a while. I shudder to think what's going to greet him at the house when he goes back. I don't think Cindy's going to be able to change her attitude even if she realizes she has to try, and he'll be right back where he started.

kellabeck
01-23-2009, 08:30 AM
When I heard this shocking news, first thought was "more wreckage in Casey's wake."

And I also agree with Scamp, upthread...that this breakdown, or whatever it was, comes from denying the truth and from grief and from repressed rage at precious Caylee's killer, from possible guilt for having raised the sociopath and done whatever contributed to this disaster, and to having to endure it all under an intense microscope.

It's all too much. And we have seen some of it bubbling up in the past.

This story just gets more and more horrible.

courtsinsession
01-23-2009, 08:32 AM
that girl sure did make a mess. she ruined lives. what a mess!


the worst part is that Casey Anthony doesn't care who she hurts, who she takes down, whose lives she ruins; she cares only for herself; she won't feel bad about her dad, only how his alleged suicide attempt affects her; "how could he do this TO ME"

newsjunkie
01-23-2009, 08:35 AM
Yes, it finally caught up. What a horrible situation. George could no longer live the deceptive charade. They need help - STAT!



If that is the case then he should have gone to LE imo

I am skeptical of the Anthony's from a mountain past behaviour

Attention seekers .

How many times have we all felt so just to be shocked the next day by their antic's?

They have been quiet to long......I just wish they would take care of business and bury that little child!

floridamom
01-23-2009, 08:40 AM
George has been the only one that i feel has been straight with LE all along. He may Twist the truth abit in interviews with the media....but Cindy is always at his side when he does that. When she is not there he is straight up. He has no one to help him because the rest of them are still falling for KC's crap. I hope he will get s compassionate doctor or counselor to talk to in the hospital who will help him do what he has known all along to be the right thing...stand up for Caylee. I hope they keep Cinday away from him for the 72 hours....he surely could use a break and maybe he can clear his head and see the light.
God Please watch over Cylee and George.

Shyone
01-23-2009, 08:41 AM
I can hear it already..so Dad has a botched suicide..I'm in here all alone...and No-one to comfort me..only MeMeMe...Curious as what she will order up today during this ordeal with George...btw..has Lee and the gf relationship on the back burner. I may be mistaken but on NG last night did they say Lee moved back into the home.

k_can004
01-23-2009, 08:49 AM
Don't you really hope Casey was informed of this?

Don't you hope she will have to realize her role in it and tell the truth?

I don't know why she played a different game with George but she did and I would like to see this make her respond in some fashion.

I know I know

Imo she won't care... she'll see it as her daddy is getting all the attention... while she sits there in a jail cell with no one to "comfort her"..... amoo

newsjunkie
01-23-2009, 08:55 AM
If George had committed suicide it would have been a disaster as far as justice for Caylee is concerned.

He would have taken anything he knows with him.

I am so sick of his weakness.

Why didn't he just go to LE and tell them he had to get this cr*p off his chest because he feels suicidal and needs help?

Now he will get it off his chest to someone that holds confidentiality, Cindy will get to him and the holding in everything will start all over again.

They would have taken him for help and he could have unburdened.

Hey George , ever heard of this? "The truth will set you free!*

Lavenia
01-23-2009, 08:57 AM
Oh man. This poor house has seen some pain.

farrahrani
01-23-2009, 09:01 AM
Does anyone but me believe LE had a tracking device implanted on that car. If they couldn't find Caylee by Caysey's cell phone pings, how did they find George so darn fast? And in Daytona no less!

Very odd if you ask me.


If he used a credit card and LE had the credit card info, they could find out where he used it for the hotel.

Someone else said early in the thread it was a deliberately botched attempt. Being former LE, if he used a credit card after leaving those text messages, he should know how fast he would have been tracked down.

Not saying it was fake...just saying he would know, that's all :sad:
Either way, this is a very sad turn of events. And its very interesting that his wife was not one of the two people he texted. :unsure:


EDIT:
Oops, checked the updated link just now.

. Deputies used GPS and signals from George’s cell phone to track his car. (watch raw video)

PuffDragon
01-23-2009, 09:02 AM
Imo she won't care... she'll see it as her daddy is getting all the attention... while she sits there in a jail cell with no one to "comfort her"..... amoo

Also, as a manipulator who does it herself she will doubtless take it as a ploy: George trying to guilt trip her. MO

newsjunkie
01-23-2009, 09:08 AM
Also, as a manipulator who does it herself she will doubtless take it as a ploy: George trying to guilt trip her. MO



I think they are all manipulaters.

These dynamics in this family have been going on for many years and the result climaxed with lil Caylee!

I am outta here for the day before I get banned!

Daffodil
01-23-2009, 09:10 AM
But what a great chapter in the book he/or Cindy is writing. I don't believe he had any intentions of killing himself - just needed to get from Cooky (Cindy).

When I read the news this morning, I was saddened. I told my husband what happened. and he said, "Another chapter for the book. These people are narcissistis (SP?). They've been out of the spotlight".

I am more concerned for GA. I do feel he needs to tell all. I think he knows that as well but hates to consider the consequences it will create for his family.

I do not care for any of the Anthony's. But I do have compassion for them. I do think we are a forgiving people and George needs to know that. I think if he tells all, people will embrace him and wish him well. I just hope he realizes it or a professional will let him know that.

How sad...............

playnice
01-23-2009, 09:13 AM
Don't you really hope Casey was informed of this?

Don't you hope she will have to realize her role in it and tell the truth?

I don't know why she played a different game with George but she did and I would like to see this make her respond in some fashion.

I know I know

I hope she rots in hell for what she has put everyone through. Probably hearing about the duct tape and heart was just too much for him.
I dont agree with the things they have done but I sure do feel sorry for him and Cindy too.

Regina.Lampert
01-23-2009, 09:13 AM
If that is the case then he should have gone to LE imo

I am skeptical of the Anthony's from a mountain past behaviour

Attention seekers .

How many times have we all felt so just to be shocked the next day by their antic's?

They have been quiet to long......I just wish they would take care of business and bury that little child!

I think this was a cry for help from george. Glad they reached him in time.

PuffDragon
01-23-2009, 09:15 AM
When I read the news this morning, I was saddened. I told my husband what happened. and he said, "Another chapter for the book. These people are narcissistis (SP?). They've been out of the spotlight".

I am more concerned for GA. I do feel he needs to tell all. I think he knows that as well but hates to consider the consequences it will create for his family.

I do not care for any of the Anthony's. But I do have compassion for them. I do think we are a forgiving people and George needs to know that. I think if he tells all, people will embrace him and wish him well. I just hope he realizes it or a professional will let him know that.

How sad...............

I agree with all of that except I don't think there ever was a book in George's head, I think he would have been much happier away from Cindy's spotlight.

msgatorslayer
01-23-2009, 09:23 AM
I believe he really didn't want to kill himself or he wouldn't have texted people about it - announcing his intentions.

I believe George is overwhelmed (understatement) and just doesn't know what to do with the horrible truth he is now facing about Casey. He needs help and I believe he needs to unburden himself of whatever he is keeping inside.

imo

ITA

I had company lastnight and wasn't around any source of news. My BBF can't stand NG. I was shocked to read my morning paper and the headline was about George. So, here I am. Reading more to see what happened. And this all went down in the middle of the night.

Poor George. I agree that he wouldn't have texted peeps if he really wanted to end it all. This is a cry for help. And I hope someone, [hint, hint, Cindy} will take warning.

We've been saying for months that George would be the one to crack. It has finally happened!! Glad he was found safe. Glad that he has been Baker Acted and may finally open up and get things off his chest. The man needs someone!!!

jen325
01-23-2009, 09:26 AM
The poor guy, he must be racked with guilt knowing as an ex-cop he didn't protect his grandaughter.

I think he just wanted to be with Caylee and thought that ending his life would let him be with her so she wouldn't be alone.

George seemed the most stand up of the family. Cindy & Lee seem like they just want to survive and manipulate. And well we all know Caysee's motives.

playnice
01-23-2009, 09:26 AM
Would the jail be obligated to tell Casey when George was reported missing? I really doubt Baez will tell her. He wants no one near her. One of the reasons I believe is someone will tell her he doesnt even know how to file paperwork right let alone represent her in a trial.

PuffDragon
01-23-2009, 09:32 AM
Would the jail be obligated to tell Casey when George was reported missing? I really doubt Baez will tell her. He wants no one near her. One of the reasons I believe is someone will tell her he doesnt even know how to file paperwork right let alone represent her in a trial.

She has a radio.

playnice
01-23-2009, 09:34 AM
She has a radio.

Duh. I forgot all about that.:rolleyes: More coffee would be nice.

spiritwolf46
01-23-2009, 09:36 AM
Guilt is a very powerful emotion. Can you imagine waking up one day realizing you raised a monster?

It is time to support Caylee for once. Tell the truth and stop supporting the murderer.


Ya know what, NY? ITA with this. I think that George has "wanted" to do the right thing all along. I think that is why he was chosen to go before the G.J. Though I am not a fan of the Anthony's in any way, I do hope that George will get the help he needs, meds to help him through this and learn to tell all he knows so he can get rid of what it is that is ailing him so.

It is time now. Tell all you know, get rid of it and SUPPORT CAYLEE! It is about time someone from that family stands behind a murdered little innocent baby.

:rose:

PuffDragon
01-23-2009, 09:36 AM
Duh. I forgot all about that.:rolleyes: More coffee would be nice.

Still, I would love to know how Dear Jose is going to handle this.

Pat
01-23-2009, 09:37 AM
George has been the only one that i feel has been straight with LE all along. He may Twist the truth abit in interviews with the media....but Cindy is always at his side when he does that. When she is not there he is straight up. He has no one to help him because the rest of them are still falling for KC's crap. I hope he will get s compassionate doctor or counselor to talk to in the hospital who will help him do what he has known all along to be the right thing...stand up for Caylee. I hope they keep Cinday away from him for the 72 hours....he surely could use a break and maybe he can clear his head and see the light.
God Please watch over Cylee and George.

Your opinion on George comes closest to mine.

Who was it on this board who kept saying they were concerned when George bought the gun? They also referenced what it must be like to live with Cindy and Casey. Whoever it was seems to have been pretty dead on with their assessment of the situation.

NYGalPal
01-23-2009, 09:40 AM
Ya know what, NY? ITA with this. I think that George has "wanted" to do the right thing all along. I think that is why he was chosen to go before the G.J. Though I am not a fan of the Anthony's in any way, I do hope that George will get the help he needs, meds to help him through this and learn to tell all he knows so he can get rid of what it is that is ailing him so.

It is time now. Tell all you know, get rid of it and SUPPORT CAYLEE! It is about time someone from that family stands behind a murdered little innocent baby.

:rose:

I hope we are both right spirit. If this isn't a wake up call I don't know what is.

George: Do the right thing and do right by that innocent being, Caylee.

starling
01-23-2009, 09:46 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/18545717/detail.html

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- George Anthony, father of Casey Anthony, was reported missing, Friday morning. He was later found at a Daytona Beach motel.

The Anthonys’ attorney, Brad Conway, said George was OK. He was taken into custody under Florida’s Baker Act which allows the state to hold people involuntarily pending a psychiatric evaluation.

I hope that man tells what he has not been able to say previously(IMO!)
I have always thought George sounded ready to stop all the madness when interviewed on the court steps before entering grand jury. Mark NeJame was was the best thing for George.


JMO

GumShoeJoe
01-23-2009, 10:08 AM
Blurb just on MSNBC said they found him, he is hospitalized, found a long suicide note, if I heard correctly. More upcoming.

Horribly sad situation, imo.

Dells
01-23-2009, 10:08 AM
Prayers for George

:rose:

Amen to that. My disdain for Casey has grown even more (if that is even possible) for what she has put her parents and family through.:cursing: I hope he is okay.

gino1234
01-23-2009, 10:10 AM
I felt all along George was the one that showed true emotions.

Get Well Soon George............

Dells
01-23-2009, 10:13 AM
that girl sure did make a mess. she ruined lives. what a mess!

I agree. No matter how people feel the Anthony's acted, Casey sure is the one that has ruined all their lives. I wonder if Baez is going to tell her about this incident w/her father. Probably not because I bet he will say it is not in her best interest. Casey is a sorry excuse for a human being.:cursing:

Leanne Weich
01-23-2009, 10:14 AM
If George had committed suicide it would have been a disaster as far as justice for Caylee is concerned.

He would have taken anything he knows with him.

I am so sick of his weakness.

Why didn't he just go to LE and tell them he had to get this cr*p off his chest because he feels suicidal and needs help?

Now he will get it off his chest to someone that holds confidentiality, Cindy will get to him and the holding in everything will start all over again.

They would have taken him for help and he could have unburdened.

Hey George , ever heard of this? "The truth will set you free!*

Guess empathy is not an emotion that figures in your life. Having lived through the suicide of my dad, my heart is breaking for George.

I imagine that he has lived a lie to try to keep what is left of his family in tact. He isn't the first or last parent not able to face up to the evil doings of a child.

He testified before the GJ, from his interviews which have been released, appears to be pretty forthright with LE and the FBI. That must have been unbelievably difficult, imo.

George says something to the effect of he wishes he'd been a better father and grandfather to her and Caylee in the videotaped jailhouse meeting in July which, imo, indicates he feels guilt (be it justified or not) for not having been the best parent in the world. I'm sure most of us parents feel that we, at some time or another, may not have been as good a parent to our children as we could have been.

George, imo, is in a world of pain and has been brought to his knees with this tragic ordeal. I'd think that people could be charitable toward this man at this time. Can you imagine how he must feel, knowing his beloved granddaughter is lying in a funeral home and a man (Baez) who he admits he dislikes is holding her remains hostage and there is absolutely nothing he can do about it. I think once they can lay Caylee to rest, he might be able to start the very real hard part of healing as much as one is able to after a tragedy of this magnitude. BTW, I am not oblivious to the things George has said publically that are not true but, to some extent, I can understand it.

Dells
01-23-2009, 10:14 AM
So George is under the Baker Act...Do you think he will snap and tell all that he knows.?.

I think he just might do that. It is obvious that he can't keep all that he knows inside any longer. I truly feel badly for him.:sad:

Dells
01-23-2009, 10:16 AM
That Casey has caused so many problems for not only her family&friends but the whole Country.
Poor George, I know he has had enough, but poor Cindy having to deal with all this all by herself.
I don't hate many people.

I agree w/you. This all goes back to Casey. She is the one that started this horrible tragedy.:sad:

playnice
01-23-2009, 10:17 AM
I think he just might do that. It is obvious that he can't keep all that he knows inside any longer. I truly feel badly for him.:sad:

I hope someone gets him to understand that there is nothing he can do now that will help Casey. There is just too much evidence against her.
He needs to release this heavy burden he is packing around.

Dells
01-23-2009, 10:18 AM
I know this should be posted on the other Thread..but I'm just still in SHOCK with the heart shaped sticker thing...

George probably was too.:sad: That is probably why he disappeared and those closest to him were worried he would take his own life. I hope Casey knows about this and for once in her life I hope she owns up to what she has put everyone through.

courtsinsession
01-23-2009, 10:28 AM
could George blow this whole case wide open?

kitty1182
01-23-2009, 10:40 AM
Prayers for George..

Good job Casey, you have managed to tear the hearts out of the people who love you...:cursing:

MGM111
01-23-2009, 10:44 AM
I just heard the news about George....Im so very sorry for your pain...I wish you well sir....:rose:

court~critic1®
01-23-2009, 10:46 AM
Oh my.... the pity party has started.

George had no intentions of killing himself. Or even attemped it. A person that is going to off themselves sure isn't going to text people and let them know.

The Ants will do anything to take the heat off of them. I will not join the "pity party" for the Ants.


bash away, but that is how I feel.

LoisDenomn8r
01-23-2009, 10:58 AM
Oh my.... the pity party has started.

George had no intentions of killing himself. Or even attemped it. A person that is going to off themselves sure isn't going to text people and let them know.

The Ants will do anything to take the heat off of them. I will not join the "pity party" for the Ants.


bash away, but that is how I feel.

This is not always true. One of my oldest friends just lost his college roommate to suicide -- and he sent texts to his loved ones just before he did it. FWIW. MOO.

flipflop
01-23-2009, 11:03 AM
This is not always true. One of my oldest friends just lost his college roommate to suicide -- and he sent texts to his loved ones just before he did it. FWIW. MOO.

Exactly. My customers nephew, 14 yrs old, just committed suicide this week. He sent texts to all of his friends, including his dad, telling them all to tell him goodbye. Before his dad could reach his sons bedroom, he heard the gunshot.

Pat
01-23-2009, 11:09 AM
"Daytona Beach police Chief Mike Chitwood said it is a pretty safe assumption George Anthony was suicidal."

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/23/george_anthony_found_hospitalized_in_daytona_beach .html

I'll go with what the police chief says about this being a publicity stunt or not until we find out more facts.

starling
01-23-2009, 11:13 AM
This is not always true. One of my oldest friends just lost his college roommate to suicide -- and he sent texts to his loved ones just before he did it. FWIW. MOO.

All threats should be taken seriously IMO.
If they are willing to threaten something that final,they may do it.




JMO

psbperu
01-23-2009, 11:32 AM
Casey Anthony should definitely be told of her father's suicide note & his hospitalization.

It is time for her to tell the truth & take this awful burden off her father.

I don't know what he is carrying around on his conscience or if he just all of sudden became overwhelmed by the in's & out's of his daughter's complicity in killing his grandchild.

This is serious stuff & do I harbor any expectation that Casey Anthony will accept responsibility for what she apparently has done..none whatsoever.

Have been hoping the grandparents would not have to take the stand in the trial. Too much to hope for in my opinion.

bearwds
01-23-2009, 11:36 AM
[QUOTE=psbperu.."Casey Anthony should definitely be told of her father's suicide note & his hospitalization..."<<SNIP-SNIP>>[/QUOTE]

******************************

MSNBC just reported that Casey was told by the jail officials.

She "had no reaction".


bearwds

Larkin
01-23-2009, 11:40 AM
******************************

MSNBC just reported that Casey was told by the jail officials.

She "had no reaction".


bearwds



Not surprising at all...

barskin&co.
01-23-2009, 11:43 AM
Prayers for George..

Good job Casey, you have managed to tear the hearts out of the people who love you...:cursing:

Hi. I haven't been around much (inauguration, you know), but I heard this story on Today this morning. When you think about it, this sort of thing was almost inevitable. George has admitted that how much he knows to both OCSO and The FBI, including his belief that Casey was going to go to prison. Then, he sees "gorgeous" and melts and tries to block all the bad thoughts from his mind. Maybe the heart sticker did it for him. Maybe he has seen those stickers. Maybe that was the last straw, and he could no longer deny the horror.

Yes, Casey has destroyed her family. I've believed that from the beginning. :cursing:

Pat
01-23-2009, 11:45 AM
ParaTROLL: Poor wording on my part. The Chief of Police says it's a pretty safe assumption GA was suicidal. There has been discussion on this thread and the main thread that this was nothing more than a contrived publicity stunt.

I'm going to believe the Chief of Police's assumption that GA really was suicidal until we hear official word otherwise.

Topaz423
01-23-2009, 12:05 PM
This is so sad. I really think George is a kind, broken-hearted grandpa.

What an awful, awful thing to have to deal with - your daughter killing your beloved granddaughter, while the world stares.


since when have they dealt with caylees death?
She was alive all the time they were searching don't ya know!
Never once have they been honest....
he spoke up about the smell in the car and than agreed with cindy...rotting pizza

imo rotten people
you can run ,but you cannot hide
karmas gonna get cha

Tracian
01-23-2009, 12:09 PM
I honestly believe that George maybe the only one of the A's that feel some remorse over the death of Caylee; and the way the A's misinformed and misled the investigation.

I do think that Cindy runs the show; When George was with LE on his own, he was far more honest, once Cindy got a hold of him he changed his story, made up stories and IMO, did mislead the investigation because he was doing as he was told by Cindy.

I agree with the poster that 'would sell their liver' to read that note, I can't help but wonder, if George sent those texts, wrote the note, perhaps with the truth (FINALLY) and was hoping to be found, he was former LE, he knows that drill when someone threatens suscide; right now George is in the safest place he has been in for the last 6 months.

With the way information leaks from this case, it will not be long before we know more about this latest twist in the case, I just hope that something 'good' will come from it, in the form of justice for Caylee.

museumgirl
01-23-2009, 12:18 PM
I think George is the only one who has shown true emotion... but watching what this thing has done to her entire family without any type of remorse is absolutely astonishing!!!

lonetraveler
01-23-2009, 12:19 PM
I honestly believe that George maybe the only one of the A's that feel some remorse over the death of Caylee; and the way the A's misinformed and misled the investigation.

I do think that Cindy runs the show; When George was with LE on his own, he was far more honest, once Cindy got a hold of him he changed his story, made up stories and IMO, did mislead the investigation because he was doing as he was told by Cindy.

I agree with the poster that 'would sell their liver' to read that note, I can't help but wonder, if George sent those texts, wrote the note, perhaps with the truth (FINALLY) and was hoping to be found, he was former LE, he knows that drill when someone threatens suscide; right now George is in the safest place he has been in for the last 6 months.

With the way information leaks from this case, it will not be long before we know more about this latest twist in the case, I just hope that something 'good' will come from it, in the form of justice for Caylee.


---
Good post. I agree with your views and do hope that George wrote the true story on his note. I'm certain that he feels enormous guilt for not being the strong father that he could have been. He is most likely regretting that he has not come forward with the truth about his daughter since day 1. He probably hates himself for allowing Cindy to manipulate him into being a liar to cover the murderous actions of his daughter. I expected George to break way before now. The burden is tremendous. I hope he does the right thing and comes clean with everything he must know.

mayamia
01-23-2009, 12:21 PM
You know, I understand his stress, but you don't go about killing yourself or come up missing. A strong person, will endure and fight what is right for his granddaughter. Fight for justice! I know it is hard, because you are dealing with a evil daughter, but fight for your granddaughter. To me, IMO is a weak action! Come On!!


Agreed:thumbsup: More to the point, wonder what could have sent him over the edge recently???

Kara
01-23-2009, 12:26 PM
This is so sad. I really think George is a kind, broken-hearted grandpa.

What an awful, awful thing to have to deal with - your daughter killing your beloved granddaughter, while the world stares.
The world does so much more than stare...the world accuses and berates you while picketing on your front lawn...

I don't know how George and Cindy have held up as long as they have. I would have blown my brains out long ago.

But then I'm not as strong is some of the posters here who think suicide is some betrayal of Caylee.

I've never lived through anything as bad as this....but I do know how it feels when life beats you down so badly for so long that it seem like too much work to continue breathing.

My sympathy and prayers go out to all the victims of Casey Anthony.

Pat
01-23-2009, 12:27 PM
Agreed:thumbsup: More to the point, wonder what could have sent him over the edge recently???

The heart sticker on the duct tape?

Certainly would have been the last straw for me.

PuffDragon
01-23-2009, 12:40 PM
Not surprising at all...

No, not surprising. But give it a while, after Dear Jose gets in for a meeting with her he's going to come out and tell us how upset she is.

Ellie
01-23-2009, 12:43 PM
You know, I understand his stress, but you don't go about killing yourself or come up missing. A strong person, will endure and fight what is right for his granddaughter. Fight for justice! I know it is hard, because you are dealing with a evil daughter, but fight for your granddaughter. To me, IMO is a weak action! Come On!!

This post is so wrong in so many ways. I'm sure living up to anyone's expections was NOT what George had in mind when thinking whatever he was thinking.

I feel horrible for George and Cindy, and it saddens me that (if it's true) George feels this is the only way he candle things at this point. I wish strength for them both.

febreze
01-23-2009, 12:48 PM
Oh my.... the pity party has started.

George had no intentions of killing himself. Or even attemped it. A person that is going to off themselves sure isn't going to text people and let them know.

The Ants will do anything to take the heat off of them. I will not join the "pity party" for the Ants.


bash away, but that is how I feel.

people do tell someone before they do it. a man that worked for my brother came back to the office after a truck run a few weeks ago told them he'd be back that he had something to do, called his mom and his sister a half hour later told them he was going to camp and take his life and that is just what he did,
a young fireman in the next town from me this past summer who called his girlfriend, his brother and a friend told them he was going to take his life, he then took his car at a high rate of speed and ran it into a tree, killing himself instantly.
people who talk about it usually do it.

canada
01-23-2009, 12:49 PM
Agreed:thumbsup: More to the point, wonder what could have sent him over the edge recently???

well for starters his beloved Grandchild is dead and his daughter is charged with her death.

I don't know how the A's found out about the latest doc dump...probably like the rest of us since they are not Jose's clients.

Having to hear about the duct tape and the sticker is pretty horrifying for people like us who are not involved in the case. I can't imagine what the latest evidence would do if I were the Grandparent.

Trust me, I do not agree with most of what the A's have done or the way they have acted. I held out a lot of hope that if anybody was going to be honest and come clean about what they knew it was going to be George. I still hold out that hope and pray he does what is right regardless if it sends his daughter down the river. Caylee deserves to have somebody stand up for her in that family.

GA has obviously been under horrendous stress since this all started and I am surprised he hasn't had a heart attack or something.
All I can say about his suicide threat is that it is not surprising given the seven months of severe stress...and it's not like living with Cindy and Casey was a party before that.

Shells2
01-23-2009, 12:50 PM
I believe that for George, the denial is wearing off and he just can not take it anymore..

Remember what he said in his police interview about not wanting to believe that he had raised someone that could do this to another person?

I think he is starting to beileve that now.. there is no avoiding the cold hard facts... Caylee is gone and EVERYTHING points to his daughter. There is no hope that she is coming home. I'm sure he has replayed all the conversations that they have had in his head, and he just feels overwhelmed with sickness and disgust and feelings I can't imagine.

mayamia
01-23-2009, 12:51 PM
I felt all along George was the one that showed true emotions.

Get Well Soon George............

Maybe leaving that household was the first step in the road to recovery. The Baker Act...would you Baker Act for leaving or for returning? What a mess.

Keno
01-23-2009, 12:51 PM
I know George had reportedly purchased a gun and even implied at one point that he considered doing something..

This is the reason I said all along that I refuse to bash those people and I resented those people who chose to yell outside their home.

I don't care how much you disagree with someone, harrassing them and kicking them when they are down is just not how I do things.



My prayers have been with this family from the get go and will continue to be.

Calla, my feelings as well. My heart goes out to George and I was outraged when those people were outside their home. These people are going through pure hell. You have to have some compassion for them.

Take care!

Rileyj26
01-23-2009, 12:52 PM
Sorry but that doesn't make sense. Don't you think that George and Cindy knew about the stickers and all the other things way before we did? I can't believe that they would find out from the media....unless something was told to them yesterday and it hasn't been released to us yet. Perhaps we are bracing for a bombshell to be leaked to the media that sent him over the edge?

mayamia
01-23-2009, 12:54 PM
well for starters his beloved Grandchild is dead and his daughter is charged with her death.

I don't know how the A's found out about the latest doc dump...probably like the rest of us since they are not Jose's clients.

Having to hear about the duct tape and the sticker is pretty horrifying for people like us who are not involved in the case. I can't imagine what the latest evidence would do if I were the Grandparent.

Trust me, I do not agree with most of what the A's have done or the way they have acted. I held out a lot of hope that if anybody was going to be honest and come clean about what they knew it was going to be George. I still hold out that hope and pray he does what is right regardless if it sends his daughter down the river. Caylee deserves to have somebody stand up for her in that family.

GA has obviously been under horrendous stress since this all started and I am surprised he hasn't had a heart attack or something.
All I can say about his suicide threat is that it is not surprising given the seven months of severe stress...and it's not like living with Cindy and Casey was a party before that.

But recently there have been discussions of incest on the board between Casey and Lee.

Staceylee
01-23-2009, 12:54 PM
I can hear it already..so Dad has a botched suicide..I'm in here all alone...and No-one to comfort me..only MeMeMe...Curious as what she will order up today during this ordeal with George...btw..has Lee and the gf relationship on the back burner. I may be mistaken but on NG last night did they say Lee moved back into the home.



She is likely to be somewhat paniced about it because she has to be wondering how this is going to affect her if he cracks and tells all he knows. I hope he does. If will be good for him and Cindy and Casey will just have to accept it. He has real feeling and he just cannot keep something so wrong quite any longer.

I noticed that in one of the videos Cindy was crying and that was the only time that I have seen Casey smiling. It is awful that they continue to protect her when she clearly enjoys inflicting pain on them.

I say to George, throw her under the bus.... She deserves it and it is exactly where she belongs. IMO

psbperu
01-23-2009, 01:05 PM
******************************

MSNBC just reported that Casey was told by the jail officials.

She "had no reaction".


bearwds


As expected...but I hope that it sinks in at some point.

coffee1950j
01-23-2009, 01:06 PM
I think George has known and accepted the truth from the beginning. The only reason he said differently (ie, the pizza) was to placate Cindy. I think he messed up so much in the past (losing all the family money, etc.) that he goes along with what Cindy says so that he can remain in the home. The day they showed him crying in his car cemented that idea in my head.

OT, but we recently (2 days ago) had a guy go ballistic here in Brockton, MA and killed a lot of people randomly. His mother says, that although she loves him, she will NOT go to his trial/arraignment because to do so would indicate that she supports him, and that there is no way she can support what he did.

I feel for George. I think he has been brow-beaten by Cindy and that, coupled with all the info that came out the other day in the docs, finally pushed him over the edge. He KNOWS and imo, always knew, the truth. Now I think he knows that Cindy knows and knew also, and that she also helped cover up some of the facts (the JCP charge, etc.)

canada
01-23-2009, 01:07 PM
Sorry but that doesn't make sense. Don't you think that George and Cindy knew about the stickers and all the other things way before we did? I can't believe that they would find out from the media....unless something was told to them yesterday and it hasn't been released to us yet. Perhaps we are bracing for a bombshell to be leaked to the media that sent him over the edge?

How would GA & CA known about the stickers before we did...unless they got some info through their lawyer Conway. LE isn't going to come to them and discuss evidence with them. Baez isn't going to discuss anything with them...they aren't his clients. So the only thing I can think of is if their lawyer informed them before it hit the media...and if so it wouldn't have been long before we found out. If anybody thinks differently then lets hear how you think they found out.

Dells
01-23-2009, 01:13 PM
could George blow this whole case wide open?

I bet if there is a suicide note, the defense will try to get it thrown out of evidence. They will say that George wasn't mentally competent at the time so therefore what is contained in the note can't be trusted. I am just sick now thinking about how the defense is going to try to spin this.:cursing:

Dells
01-23-2009, 01:16 PM
******************************

MSNBC just reported that Casey was told by the jail officials.

She "had no reaction".


bearwds

Oh, I can't believe that. She had no reaction to her father possibly taking his own life?! She is just pure evil. She has ruined her family's lives and she just doesn't care.:cursing:

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 01:16 PM
If George had committed suicide it would have been a disaster as far as justice for Caylee is concerned.

He would have taken anything he knows with him.

I am so sick of his weakness.

Why didn't he just go to LE and tell them he had to get this cr*p off his chest because he feels suicidal and needs help?

Now he will get it off his chest to someone that holds confidentiality, Cindy will get to him and the holding in everything will start all over again.

They would have taken him for help and he could have unburdened.

Hey George , ever heard of this? "The truth will set you free!*

Yes, ITA ~ this is what I was talking about late last night on this thread. I am not a mean spirited person, but enough! This is about Caylee, and little baby girl that didn't do anything wrong, but still suffered and now is no longer here. Truth and justice for Caylee, not George, Cindy, Lee, and especially not casey!

Sherbie
01-23-2009, 01:20 PM
The world does so much more than stare...the world accuses and berates you while picketing on your front lawn...

I don't know how George and Cindy have held up as long as they have. I would have blown my brains out long ago.

But then I'm not as strong is some of the posters here who think suicide is some betrayal of Caylee.

I've never lived through anything as bad as this....but I do know how it feels when life beats you down so badly for so long that it seem like too much work to continue breathing.

My sympathy and prayers go out to all the victims of Casey Anthony.

I've been to that place you describe...and, bad as it was, I can't imagine having to try to deal with all that Casey has thrown at her parents. I think Cindy, in particular, has done some very wrong things (and depending on how wrong, she may have to pay for it), but I still feel for her loss.

I think George has done what he had to do to appease Cindy and try to keep the remainder of his family as intact as possible. I think he's been torn between loyalty to his wife/family and his conscience eating at him since the beginning. I believe that conflict could only have become even more overwhelming since Caylee's remains were discovered and more details have become known.

The first time my heart truly broke for him was the day he yelled at the two guys on his lawn, saying the body in that'd been in the trunk wasn't his granddaughter. It hurt to watch that video...he was absolutely pitiful. I think he knew, but didn't want to know. And he sure as heck didn't want to hear anyone else say his beloved Caylee was dead.

I have always thought Cindy was far, far stronger than George and that she could withstand a lot more. I think she decides what's gonna be said, what the strategy will be, and that it would be futile and very risky for George to dare step even a toe off that path. I believe he's finally gotten to the point that he just can't keep living that way.

I hope, for his own sake, that his interaction with her or anyone else who might try to influence his thoughts/actions regarding the case will be disallowed or limited during his hospitalization. He really does need to be away from it so that he can feel his own feelings and think his own thoughts and perhaps decide what he has to do (without threat, harassment, or extra guilt being heaped on him) so that he can find a way to survive.

I wondered for a nano-second this morning if maybe Casey would grasp the impact on her family after learning about her dad and tell JB that she is not gonna put her family through a trial; that she wants to take a plea. But if she cared so little about her own precious daughter, I doubt she's gonna think twice about her dad (except for how this development might affect her case or the public perception of her.) I really loathe that girl.

:rose: But I lub you!

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 01:23 PM
Guess empathy is not an emotion that figures in your life. Having lived through the suicide of my dad, my heart is breaking for George.

I imagine that he has lived a lie to try to keep what is left of his family in tact. He isn't the first or last parent not able to face up to the evil doings of a child.

He testified before the GJ, from his interviews which have been released, appears to be pretty forthright with LE and the FBI. That must have been unbelievably difficult, imo.

George says something to the effect of he wishes he'd been a better father and grandfather to her and Caylee in the videotaped jailhouse meeting in July which, imo, indicates he feels guilt (be it justified or not) for not having been the best parent in the world. I'm sure most of us parents feel that we, at some time or another, may not have been as good a parent to our children as we could have been.

George, imo, is in a world of pain and has been brought to his knees with this tragic ordeal. I'd think that people could be charitable toward this man at this time. Can you imagine how he must feel, knowing his beloved granddaughter is lying in a funeral home and a man (Baez) who he admits he dislikes is holding her remains hostage and there is absolutely nothing he can do about it. I think once they can lay Caylee to rest, he might be able to start the very real hard part of healing as much as one is able to after a tragedy of this magnitude. BTW, I am not oblivious to the things George has said publically that are not true but, to some extent, I can understand it.

It's simple, he has lied. He has not stood up to his daugheter and failed his granddaughter. It would have been horrible for him to commit suicide, because IMO, that would have been a cop out, to not cope with what he has done, and as a the poster you replied to, would have taken things he knows to the grave. WTH??? IMO

nothingnew
01-23-2009, 01:23 PM
Sorry but that doesn't make sense. Don't you think that George and Cindy knew about the stickers and all the other things way before we did? I can't believe that they would find out from the media....unless something was told to them yesterday and it hasn't been released to us yet. Perhaps we are bracing for a bombshell to be leaked to the media that sent him over the edge?

I don't know that the anthonys knew 'way' before the media but I do think they are at least a few days ahead of us and they definitely know more than we do.
Also who would these 'loved ones' be that he is sending texts to? not cindy, they already stated that. If it's an attorney that says a lot (I'm thinking Nejames and the pastor) I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Kara
01-23-2009, 01:29 PM
I've been to that place you describe...and, bad as it was, I can't imagine having to try to deal with all that Casey has thrown at her parents. I think Cindy, in particular, has done some very wrong things (and depending on how wrong, she may have to pay for it), but I still feel for her loss.

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:rose: But I lub you!
I think Cindy is in deep denial, it's the only way she can keep up her facade fo strength...but at some level she has to know.

I don't think Cindy had anything to do with killing Caylee but might have tried to protect her daughter when it became obvious that she was going to lose both her beloved grandaughter and her daughter.

I completely agree that Cindy is the stronger person in that couple...but that strength comes from a place that makes her less likeable...ya know?

Casey...what a piece of work. No empathy for anyone. Casey only cares about Casey and how things affect Casey. There is no fixing the Casey Anthonys of the world....but she might be one of the worst we've seen.

BTW..it's always great to see you dollface!

Kara
01-23-2009, 01:36 PM
If the suicide note is a "tell all", will it be admitted in court?
Jean Casarez thought it might be considered a dying declaration.

cloe23
01-23-2009, 01:45 PM
Agreed:thumbsup: More to the point, wonder what could have sent him over the edge recently???

The recent list of what all was found with Caylee's remains. The mats from the trunk of the car? George has known all along that they were missing IMO. Maybe he has finally realized that all signs point to Casey as the one who killed Caylee.

Tracian
01-23-2009, 01:48 PM
I bet Baez is white knuckled worried about what the letter says that George wrote. I bet Casey is also very concerned.

cloe23
01-23-2009, 01:49 PM
Jean Casarez thought it might be considered a dying declaration.

I remember that term from the most recent, husband found guilty for killing wife with cyanide. IIRC Can't recall his name, the judge ruled the deceased's letters regarding her fear of her husband trying to kill her, as dying declarations.

So I take it George was found with gun in hand? Anyone?

Neffy
01-23-2009, 01:51 PM
Agreed:thumbsup: More to the point, wonder what could have sent him over the edge recently???

It's life when you have an elephant in the room.

Balesha
01-23-2009, 01:53 PM
I believe that for George, the denial is wearing off and he just can not take it anymore..

Remember what he said in his police interview about not wanting to believe that he had raised someone that could do this to another person?

I think he is starting to beileve that now.. there is no avoiding the cold hard facts... Caylee is gone and EVERYTHING points to his daughter. There is no hope that she is coming home. I'm sure he has replayed all the conversations that they have had in his head, and he just feels overwhelmed with sickness and disgust and feelings I can't imagine.


This is what I think too. It's pretty clear that Casey did this. I believe that they were duped and manipulated by their daughter, but George can no longer deny it to himself. Such a sad story all around.

Kara
01-23-2009, 01:55 PM
I remember that term from the most recent, husband found guilty for killing wife with cyanide. IIRC Can't recall his name, the judge ruled the deceased's letters regarding her fear of her husband trying to kill her, as dying declarations.

So I take it George was found with gun in hand? Anyone?
I don't think it means George was found gun in hand...but it does mean the statement was made/written with imminent death being anticipated.

Balesha
01-23-2009, 02:01 PM
It's simple, he has lied. He has not stood up to his daugheter and failed his granddaughter. It would have been horrible for him to commit suicide, because IMO, that would have been a cop out, to not cope with what he has done, and as a the poster you replied to, would have taken things he knows to the grave. WTH??? IMO

I agree that he lied, but what if the context of those lies is not so clear? I think he lied to go along with a crazy story from Casey that lying was necessary to protect Caylee and the family from the kidnappers. Context could be everything here and there is a lot that we don't know. Who knows what crazy lies Casey told her parents.

cloe23
01-23-2009, 02:04 PM
******************************

MSNBC just reported that Casey was told by the jail officials.

She "had no reaction".


bearwds

Casey is beyond words! :cursing: Maybe they jailers need to tell her about the note that LE has now?
She probably has had a death wish for both George and Cindy for some time. Supports 'how to break a neck' search on the internet.
Casey wanted her parents out and the house to herself.

Hope George can stay away from Cindy long enough to begin to see the reality of all this.
As bad as this sounds IMO this is a good thing.

VII
01-23-2009, 02:07 PM
I'm personally appalled at some of the posts on here.
George can't even catch a friggin' BREAK when he is OBviously unable to ~cope~ with all that has happened in the past 6+ months.
MANY of you in here posting hate-filled, calous, vile posts, yet you want to point a finger at G and C for being the same?

Some of you really need to go back and read what you have written.
I don't see YOU as much different that what you accuse the A's of being.

jmo

OH, and btw....
Well Wishes to George and I'm praying that his Therapist can help him find a way to begin healing.

LisaM22
01-23-2009, 02:09 PM
AMEN Calla...........


If there is no one that can not see or appreciate the grief and toll this surely and would surly take on these people they must be living in a different realm. This just shows a smidget of what has been going on in there broken hearts and spirit . To kick someone already down is the worst of worst ........They have all held up and lived life from second to second in such torment .I hope that this is an awakening for the public ...........THE Anthonys' have been WIDE AWAKE the entire time ,what they think and know in their hearts and has been speculated on unmercifully is no ones ticket to such abuse.

They are victims of this whole night mare .I am glad George was found before something worse transpired ..thank GOD.

I agree, thank goodness

Balesha
01-23-2009, 02:10 PM
I'm personally appalled at some of the posts on here.
George can't even catch a friggin' BREAK when he is OBviously unable to ~cope~ with all that has happened in the past 6+ months.
MANY of you in here posting hate-filled, calous, vile posts, yet you want to point a finger at G and C for being the same?

Some of you really need to go back and read what you have written.
I don't see YOU as much different that what you accuse the A's of being.

jmo

OH, and btw....
Well Wishes to George and I'm praying that his Therapist can help him find a way to begin healing.

My heart goes out to George Anthony. I think he's realizing that Casey did this and his heart is shattering in a million pieces. Yesterday we had another doc dump so it was a tough day.

MandyMia
01-23-2009, 02:10 PM
I have been praying for the Anthony family as a whole from the beginning, but I have always had more sympathy in my heart for George. I check this site every day and night periodically because this case has really grabbed me, just as it has many, many people. I have broken down a ton of times when I read what's happened next, but this............. I just sobbed. I hope everyone prays that George hands this over to God because it's just too much for one person to emotionally handle on their own. This poor, poor man has been ripped to shreds and if you look at the pictures of him from the beginning and then look at his face now - this has aged him hard. I just am heart sick over this. imo imo imo imo imo

cloe23
01-23-2009, 02:10 PM
I don't think it means George was found gun in hand...but it does mean the statement was made/written with imminent death being anticipated.

TY for the clarification. Glad they got to him first.

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 02:14 PM
I agree that he lied, but what if the context of those lies is not so clear? I think he lied to go along with a crazy story from Casey that lying was necessary to protect Caylee and the family from the kidnappers. Context could be everything here and there is a lot that we don't know. Who knows what crazy lies Casey told her parents.

I am not saying he was just lying because he thought that's what casey was saying about the kidnappers and Caylee's life being in danger. That's BS and he knew it, he was in LE. He knew what the smell in the car was and he lied and said it was pizza, he lied when he said "it wasn't his granddaughter in the trunk of the car", when he knew it probably was, I also think he lied to LE on the last time he saw Caylee and casey. I do feel sorry for him, because I know he is in deep sorry for what he knows what happen to Caylee, but he continues to defend the actions of her daughter, casey. WTH??
I hope he now comes around and tells the truth on what he thinks happened and give justice to Caylee that is much needed in this case. IMO

MandyMia
01-23-2009, 02:14 PM
My heart goes out to George Anthony. I think he's realizing that Casey did this and his heart is shattering in a million pieces. Yesterday we had another doc dump so it was a tough day.



I bet every single day since this started has been a tough day for George. imo

Every day some new horrible things is broadcast in some fashion - his mother in-law and sister in-law emailing what a loser he is - emails never meant to be shared with anyone and here they got shared with the world. I know that is one of the simple, tiny bit of the many horrible, horrible things released ... it just speaks to how many things he has had to swallow. He does need time to think - sort it all out and I don't think that time is coming any time soon. imo

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 02:16 PM
Casey is beyond words! :cursing: Maybe they jailers need to tell her about the note that LE has now?
She probably has had a death wish for both George and Cindy for some time. Supports 'how to break a neck' search on the internet.
Casey wanted her parents out and the house to herself.

Hope George can stay away from Cindy long enough to begin to see the reality of all this.
As bad as this sounds IMO this is a good thing.


Unfortunately, it looks like she is going to visit him this morning. I hope the cameras are rolling on what she might have to say to him

cloe23
01-23-2009, 02:18 PM
My heart goes out to George Anthony. I think he's realizing that Casey did this and his heart is shattering in a million pieces. Yesterday we had another doc dump so it was a tough day.

ITA Yesterday was a bad day for many, this poster (me) included.:angry:

Daisy'sMom
01-23-2009, 02:19 PM
I have tried to stay away from the negative and most times cruel thing being said about this family. I believe that none of us, GOD willing, will ever experience and never understand what they have gone thru. Their daughter and sister is a murderer, she murdered a child, her own child. That alone must have proven extremely difficult to comprehend and extremely hard for them to accept. This family has been under a microscope from the first day they reported Caylee missing. They have been ridiculed, they have been judged, there have been rumors, there has been hate. I do not know what I would do if my daughter was accused of such a crime. I have no idea what pain I would have to endure. I have no idea if I could stand away from my daughter, if I could turn my back on her. I love her unconditional, I hope every mother loves their children in the same manner. Would I be able to accept that she could do something so hateful, I don't know.
I think the Anthonys are going thru hell, I think they are trying to come to grips with the fact their daughter commited the most horrible crime against their precious granddaughter. I will continue to pray for them. I will not judge them for their mistakes because I have not walked in their shoes.

~tj~
01-23-2009, 02:23 PM
The heart sticker on the duct tape?

Certainly would have been the last straw for me.

Pat, I think you are right on the money! I can't imagine. I know how "I" felt when I read about that. But to be them, and find this out?? We'll never truly know the magnitude of how hard that hit them. Especially George. He has been p-whipped through this whole thing and that is completely obvious.

IMO he needs to get away from Cindy. :mad:

MandyMia
01-23-2009, 02:24 PM
I have tried to stay away from the negative and most times cruel thing being said about this family. I believe that none of us, GOD willing, will ever experience and never understand what they have gone thru. Their daughter and sister is a murderer, she murdered a child, her own child. That alone must have proven extremely difficult to comprehend and extremely hard for them to accept. This family has been under a microscope from the first day they reported Caylee missing. They have been ridiculed, they have been judged, there have been rumors, there has been hate. I do not know what I would do if my daughter was accused of such a crime. I have no idea what pain I would have to endure. I have no idea if I could stand away from my daughter, if I could turn my back on her. I love her unconditional, I hope every mother loves their children in the same manner. Would I be able to accept that she could do something so hateful, I don't know.
I think the Anthonys are going thru hell, I think they are trying to come to grips with the fact their daughter commited the most horrible crime against their precious granddaughter. I will continue to pray for them. I will not judge them for their mistakes because I have not walked in their shoes.


ITA It's so easy to stand back and judge - and we are not their judge and it is not our place. I stand back and pray - pray for all involved in this horrible nightmare. As unpopular as it is, I pray for Casey too. She probably needs the prayers most of all. It's a horrible mess and poor Caylee is wrapped in an angel's arms, as for the rest of the family - I can see how hard it must be to get up each day. imo

MandyMia
01-23-2009, 02:25 PM
Pat, I think you are right on the money! I can't imagine. I know how "I" felt when I read about that. But to be them, and find this out?? We'll never truly know the magnitude of how hard that hit them. Especially George. He has been p-whipped through this whole thing and that is completely obvious.

IMO he needs to get away from Cindy. :mad:


ITA ITA
Felt that way from the start.

Sherbie
01-23-2009, 02:26 PM
I think Cindy is in deep denial, it's the only way she can keep up her facade fo strength...but at some level she has to know.

I don't think Cindy had anything to do with killing Caylee but might have tried to protect her daughter when it became obvious that she was going to lose both her beloved grandaughter and her daughter.

I completely agree that Cindy is the stronger person in that couple...but that strength comes from a place that makes her less likeable...ya know?

Casey...what a piece of work. No empathy for anyone. Casey only cares about Casey and how things affect Casey. There is no fixing the Casey Anthonys of the world....but she might be one of the worst we've seen.

BTW..it's always great to see you dollface!

Thank you! Haven't been hanging out here as much. Was afraid everyone I knew might be gone. Whew! ;)

I totally agree that neither of the grandparents (nor anyone else, for that matter) had anything to do with harming Caylee -- it was Casey and Casey alone who killed Caylee.

I defended the Anthonys early on. As time went on, Cindy kept making that harder and harder to do, especially once I realized she was trying to throw totally innocent people under the bus in order to save Casey. I started to believe (rightly or wrongly) that Cindy was willing to go to any lengths necessary to ensure Casey avoided the consequences of her actions.

I think Cindy can justify that to herself somehow (maybe that thick veil of denial she seems constantly to be hiding behind), but I'm not so sure about George. I can't imagine what it might be like to desperately want to unburden yourself by telling the truth, but to know that if you do, you might lose your wife, possibly your son, and help to put your daughter in prison forever.

I think it's all closing in on him and he may have felt it better to leave this world than to continue to live this nightmare or to hurt/lose what remains of his family. Who knows, maybe the family is in deeper (after the fact, of course) than we ever realized and he knows what's coming in that regard...or maybe the point has been reached with recent developments where there is just no conceivable avenue left for continuing to deny the truth any longer.

I have seen people saying he's weak for contemplating suicide. Not everyone can withstand pressure with the same degree of strength. I certainly can't fault him for being despondent and wanting to quit feeling all this pain. I feel compassion for him and don't consider him a coward for hurting so badly that he just can't stand it anymore.

Of course it's not the right answer...it never is. But I can certainly see how one could get to this point in his situation, no matter how strong they may have been to start with. Like you, I don't know how he's held up as long as he has.

cloe23
01-23-2009, 02:27 PM
Unfortunately, it looks like she is going to visit him this morning. I hope the cameras are rolling on what she might have to say to him

Not in a physic unit! The HIPPA laws are very strict, almost overboard. JMO George must of agreed to see her. Darn, I was hoping that he could have some mandatory space. I guess his comfort is the goal.
They have only each other.

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 02:27 PM
I have tried to stay away from the negative and most times cruel thing being said about this family. I believe that none of us, GOD willing, will ever experience and never understand what they have gone thru. Their daughter and sister is a murderer, she murdered a child, her own child. That alone must have proven extremely difficult to comprehend and extremely hard for them to accept. This family has been under a microscope from the first day they reported Caylee missing. They have been ridiculed, they have been judged, there have been rumors, there has been hate. I do not know what I would do if my daughter was accused of such a crime. I have no idea what pain I would have to endure. I have no idea if I could stand away from my daughter, if I could turn my back on her. I love her unconditional, I hope every mother loves their children in the same manner. Would I be able to accept that she could do something so hateful, I don't know.
I think the Anthonys are going thru hell, I think they are trying to come to grips with the fact their daughter commited the most horrible crime against their precious granddaughter. I will continue to pray for them. I will not judge them for their mistakes because I have not walked in their shoes.

I am not judging them, but I think it is time to come to grips that their daughter did kill their precious granddaughter and stop going along with casey dispicable lies and stop lying to others and LE. I think it is time. I would love my daughter unconditionally, and support her, but in truth, not lies. If you support your daughter in the lies she has brought to this case, then you then become part of the problem, not the cure.

mayamia
01-23-2009, 02:42 PM
The heart sticker on the duct tape?

Certainly would have been the last straw for me.


Right you are.

VII
01-23-2009, 02:43 PM
I am not judging them, but I think it is time to come to grips that their daughter did kill their precious granddaughter and stop going along with casey dispicable lies and stop lying to others and LE. I think it is time. I would love my daughter unconditionally, and support her, but in truth, not lies. If you support your daughter in the lies she has brought to this case, then you then become part of the problem, not the cure.

maybe he has stopped going along with Casey's dispicable lies
maybe he has stopped lying to others and LE.
maybe this is the time.
maybe he is becoming part of the cure/healing.
MAYbe, this is the only way he could find to do it?

You just don't STOP and do an about face w/o somehow crumbling.
Perhaps he DOES realize, now, what he has been so desparatly trying to avoid accepting.

HIS daughter killed HIS granddaughter.

"You tired, Pa Pa?"

"Shall we make a new rule of life from tonight: always try to be a little kinder than is necessary."
-- Sir James M. Barrie

jmo

mayamia
01-23-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm personally appalled at some of the posts on here.
George can't even catch a friggin' BREAK when he is OBviously unable to ~cope~ with all that has happened in the past 6+ months.
MANY of you in here posting hate-filled, calous, vile posts, yet you want to point a finger at G and C for being the same?

Some of you really need to go back and read what you have written.
I don't see YOU as much different that what you accuse the A's of being.

jmo

OH, and btw....
Well Wishes to George and I'm praying that his Therapist can help him find a way to begin healing.

My empathy is with Caylee.

Annie143
01-23-2009, 02:57 PM
I have only read through page 3 and I feel sympathy for the Anthony family though I think they are dead wrong in the way they have handled this whole situation. Very suspicious how they have handled the whole thing IMO.....they are manipulative people, after all.

Having said that, I wonder (I know I may be trounced) if this was a bid for sympathy in relationship to the possibility of being charged themselves........ now, trust me, I have had a dear family member commit suicide so, I know a lot about the ends and outs of that kind of thing..... so, I was just wondering. And my hat goes off to all the people who automatically do not suspect anything and are open hearted in your good wishes.

I think George didnt appreciate Casey and Caylee being there in the household, I think he resented the money spent on them. I think he was willing for them to leave the house and make their own way but not in a mean way.....I think he was just tired of Caseys manipulations.
Now, he feels guilt over all of these things and has tried to over compensate for the way he felt. Plus, I think Cindy had to bail him out of things and he has let her become the dominate one and he feels guilty for that, as well. He has lost his balls and in the process made a mess of things himself.

What a sad family. For that, I have sympathy and hope they can get help.

Also, wanted to add that I am remiss sometimes in posting when I should have read but I do wish when there are hard facts available that people would read the thread rather than asking for someone to tell them what has happened rather than searching it out. The info is ususally posted in a dozen different posts. I know, my bad. But, it just makes it so hard if you only have limited time, to clutter it all up with plowing through repetitive posts....I love you all.

sachae
01-23-2009, 02:59 PM
Make sure you thank him for us. My ex-boyfriends are good for nothin'. :tongueside:

This is not the time to bash George. The weight on his heart must be incredibly heavy as he is the only one in the family who has faced up to what has been going on in this case, regardless of what he has said in public to placate Cindy.

I agree with you very much, how does one come to terms that your own flesh and blood could have done such a terrible act, you don't you think in hindsight, I should have done this, I should have done that, he saw a lot with hie eyes over the years with his daughter, but he never for one moment thought it could lead to this.

Therefore my prayers and thoughts are with him very much for the self blame that he is going through, it is what it is and he must go on to the next chapter of his life, and hopefully this will give him more strength, being in a hospital to help him cope with this terrible grief that only he (George)can walk away and become a stronger man.

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 03:11 PM
maybe he has stopped going along with Casey's dispicable lies
maybe he has stopped lying to others and LE.
maybe this is the time.
maybe he is becoming part of the cure/healing.
MAYbe, this is the only way he could find to do it?

You just don't STOP and do an about face w/o somehow crumbling.
Perhaps he DOES realize, now, what he has been so desparatly trying to avoid accepting.

HIS daughter killed HIS granddaughter.

"You tired, Pa Pa?"

"Shall we make a new rule of life from tonight: always try to be a little kinder than is necessary."
-- Sir James M. Barrie

jmo

I hope you are right that maybe George is coming forth to do the right thing. If he is and he stands for what is true, then I will again repect him as I once did way back when he was forth coming to LE in the beginning of this case. If he doesn't then I think he is a very weak man and I would find him just a little less dispicable than his daughter. I am all about justice for that little innocent baby girl, Caylee.

MichelleP
01-23-2009, 03:13 PM
I do not want any enemies ,but I 100% agree with you . I have felt this way also , the hate I have seen slung, the horrendous jokes and comments in the face of this tragedy and against the people who are having to live and breath it 24/7 . Your bravery in saying it just like it is ! What is the difference in being the kind of person you are accusing others of being , cold ,heartless, vindictive, I could go on . some will pipe in later an EXCUSE for the reasons they do this stuff , but then go right back to doing it ! Funny thing is that they feel THEY have an excuse and the A's don't ............Wrong the A's have an EXCUSE for their behavior ,those that have not walked in their shoes do not ..and NO , no one has walked in their shows , some may have had tragedy and for those thats even more reason they should ZIP this kind of behavior .

People don't have to shut up and zip up, isn't this a free country?

Postergeist
01-23-2009, 03:19 PM
Or not.

Investigators said the eight-page note indicated George Anthony was at the end of his rope, and that once he was gone, his family would have a better life. He wrote about how strong his daughter, Casey Anthony, is and said he doesn't believe she hurt her daughter, Caylee. However, he did make dark, veiled references to his daughter's friends.

Suicide Note Found With George Anthony (http://www.wesh.com/news/18546075/detail.html)

Thanks Landshark- I too was going to post the links for those on this thread that may have missed what other posters have put up that mentions some of the things in the note.

(for some reason- my mind went back to the JBR Ransom note that many referred to the War & Peace of RN- and now- this from George may be the War & Peace of despondency notes as well)

It did cross my mind if some of the unmarked pill bottles contained Xanax.

http://www.news-journalonline.com/newsjournalonline/breakingnews/george012309.htm



Suicide Note Found With George Anthony


http://www.wesh.com/news/18546075/detail.html

Shells2
01-23-2009, 03:20 PM
Or not.

Investigators said the eight-page note indicated George Anthony was at the end of his rope, and that once he was gone, his family would have a better life. He wrote about how strong his daughter, Casey Anthony, is and said he doesn't believe she hurt her daughter, Caylee. However, he did make dark, veiled references to his daughter's friends.

Suicide Note Found With George Anthony (http://www.wesh.com/news/18546075/detail.html)

That doesn't make any sense.

Why would he attempt to kill himself and leave a note basically blaming Caylee's death on Casey's friends? If he truly believed that her friends did this, wouldn't he stay around and try to prove it to save his daughter?

Something is fishy... I just don't know what..

MichelleP
01-23-2009, 03:25 PM
Of course YOU CAN and have the right to say and and act any which way you want ............it does not make it right .

If you so choose to ACT worse then the people you throw hateful jokes and vindictive comments about and accuse them of being EVIL, HEARTLESS ,dispicable people ........then WHAT does that say about YOU ?

If YOU have not contributed in this ,then you have no guilt of being that kind of person ..........


Ask yourselves , what kind of person ARE YOU ?

What does it say about me? What does it say about you? You're doing the same thing you tell people not to do the Anthony's. Aren't the Anthony's doing the same thing to other people they don't want done to them?

I am not asking myself anything? You know why? I know I am a good person and I don't have to prove it to you, you don't know me. I can care less if you like me or not. Have a nice day.

PuffDragon
01-23-2009, 03:30 PM
That doesn't make any sense.

Why would he attempt to kill himself and leave a note basically blaming Caylee's death on Casey's friends? If he truly believed that her friends did this, wouldn't he stay around and try to prove it to save his daughter?

Something is fishy... I just don't know what..

I have a problem believing that all that was leaked by LE. There's just too much information. I might believe that somebody got a brief glance at one of the papers and might say something like "George said he was sorry but he just couldn't keep smiling and lying any more" but I can't believe somebody is able to quote all that unless he has the papers in front of him. And who would have that?

I'm staying skeptical until I see those pages.

sammielizabe
01-23-2009, 03:32 PM
That little B#$Tc$ is destroying everyone around her. I pray for George and hope he has it in him now to tell the truth and save himself from this sick family. Prayers for George I think he is the only one that has a heart and soul in this case.....Obviously IMO

sammielizabe
01-23-2009, 03:33 PM
Agreed:thumbsup: More to the point, wonder what could have sent him over the edge recently???

Perhaps, something in the latest doc dump?

Annie143
01-23-2009, 03:35 PM
Or not.

Investigators said the eight-page note indicated George Anthony was at the end of his rope, and that once he was gone, his family would have a better life. He wrote about how strong his daughter, Casey Anthony, is and said he doesn't believe she hurt her daughter, Caylee. However, he did make dark, veiled references to his daughter's friends.

Suicide Note Found With George Anthony (http://www.wesh.com/news/18546075/detail.html) Oh, my word. I cant believe he said that.....how does everyone feel now ?

SavannahStar
01-23-2009, 03:37 PM
Oh, my word. I cant believe he said that.....how does everyone feel now ?


No change in my sympathy for him.

Balesha
01-23-2009, 03:39 PM
No change in my sympathy for him.

I still sympathize with him, but good Heavens, what is it gonna take for him to realize that Casey killed Caylee? This is classic denial.

johnielee333
01-23-2009, 03:40 PM
I know George had reportedly purchased a gun and even implied at one point that he considered doing something..

This is the reason I said all along that I refuse to bash those people and I resented those people who chose to yell outside their home.

I don't care how much you disagree with someone, harrassing them and kicking them when they are down is just not how I do things.



My prayers have been with this family from the get go and will continue to be.

i do agree with you.

sammielizabe
01-23-2009, 03:41 PM
Please let's support and pray for George, I think he will finally reveal some truth...which will help him to heal. CA won't do anything to herself, she is just like KC. I hope George survives this, tells the truth and gets the hell away from all of them.

sammielizabe
01-23-2009, 03:43 PM
Casey is beyond words! :cursing: Maybe they jailers need to tell her about the note that LE has now?
She probably has had a death wish for both George and Cindy for some time. Supports 'how to break a neck' search on the internet.
Casey wanted her parents out and the house to herself.

Hope George can stay away from Cindy long enough to begin to see the reality of all this.
As bad as this sounds IMO this is a good thing.

I totally agree with you!

sammielizabe
01-23-2009, 03:44 PM
Thank God GA is ok he has been through alot because of his daughter and the loss of Caylee. This is a time to stop the blaming and bashing of the Anthonys not including cayee. They are hurting more than any of us know and I am sure will always support thier daughter most parents would.

this is just MO

I do not and will support CA....ever! I don't trust her...

Sherbie
01-23-2009, 03:46 PM
That doesn't make any sense.

Why would he attempt to kill himself and leave a note basically blaming Caylee's death on Casey's friends? If he truly believed that her friends did this, wouldn't he stay around and try to prove it to save his daughter?

Something is fishy... I just don't know what..

Oh dear, I hadn't seen that new information! He has to know now...he can't possibly still be in denial. Does he think Casey would protect someone else so much that she would allow her family (and, more tellingly, herself) to continue to go through all this hell, even after Caylee's remains were found? If it were someone else, she'd have no need or desire to "protect" them in order to keep Caylee safe anymore.

I can't believe he still believes she's innocent. So, I think either he really did want to die and tried his best to say something to help Casey (knowing that people tend to give weight to someone's dying words)...or...he didn't intend to die and tried to help Casey.

I don't want to be suspicious when someone might be suffering so badly that they want to die; but, like I said earlier, I wouldn't put anything past Cindy to try to save Casey. I just can't believe George would go that far with it, though. Would he? I think he was just trying to do whatever he could to help Casey. Of course, if that were the case, a dying confession that he committed the crime rather than pointing fingers at friends might work better.

I don't know what to think now. :sad:

MichelleP
01-23-2009, 03:50 PM
I clearly said IF YOU have not contributed ,then YOU have no guilt of this behavior ..........I made sure to post that so YOU were not offended if YOU do not contribute to such behavior, hope you get that this time around.


I have feelings for anyone in distress ,anyone , and for people to use the so called distress to spread hate ,jokes and the like does not reveal to me they are indeed in distress, but merely entertaining themselves by seeing who can come up with the funniest most hurtful of comments , when it all starts rolling out ,you watch it unfold in just that manner , one starts and the other pipes in .....I do have a problem with that personally and I voiced it .

Thank you for listening.

You're still not going to change anyone's mind and in my opinion your only adding to the problem you hate so much and that is more people talking and making jokes about the Anthony's on the board, because you're not going to change anyone's opinion.

johnielee333
01-23-2009, 03:53 PM
i do feel bad for all the Anthonys. i have prayed for them all. this has been a nightmare for them. they all need some big time Counseling to help them deal with this & other issues.

Auburngirl
01-23-2009, 03:53 PM
The A's need serious HELP. They can still love Casey yet abhor her actions. They can face the truth and still love their daughter and honor CAYLEE. They need immense help . . . all of them, but truth has to come first.

MOO

You're so right River. I think the As are so codependent it's not funny. Even had this never happened they could have used some form of help a la Alanon. IMHO they are addicted to drama. Caylee's death is most likely the culmination of years of this behavior.

I left the first thread to take care of some things. The whole time I was away I kept wondering about OCS taking possession of the unfinished letter. A part of me thinks it would have been kept within the confines of the mental health professionals treating him unless there was something of either evidentiary value or something important to the investigation.

nc1948
01-23-2009, 03:56 PM
ITA

I had company lastnight and wasn't around any source of news. My BBF can't stand NG. I was shocked to read my morning paper and the headline was about George. So, here I am. Reading more to see what happened. And this all went down in the middle of the night.

Poor George. I agree that he wouldn't have texted peeps if he really wanted to end it all. This is a cry for help. And I hope someone, [hint, hint, Cindy} will take warning.

We've been saying for months that George would be the one to crack. It has finally happened!! Glad he was found safe. Glad that he has been Baker Acted and may finally open up and get things off his chest. The man needs someone!!!

Concerning the Baker act. Will they keep him in isolation ( no visitors) for this time. Guess what I am asking is, will cindy be kept away from him.

Auburngirl
01-23-2009, 03:59 PM
Concerning the Baker act. Will they keep him in isolation ( no visitors) for this time. Guess what I am asking is, will cindy be kept away from him.


I don't know about Florida law but I can tell that here she would be able to visit him. Patients are allowed visitors but it's not done in a hospital room. Anyone here involuntarily committed would be in a behavioral health unit. Visitation is very restricted and is conducted in a common area with staff nearby.

gogo
01-23-2009, 04:22 PM
A side show I do not buy. If I was going to commit suicide I would do it. not send text messages while I am bombed. I can barely send them sober. His lawyer is spinning away. Another book deal for George, interesting chapter. sorry for this cynicism.

msgatorslayer
01-23-2009, 04:23 PM
Concerning the Baker act. Will they keep him in isolation ( no visitors) for this time. Guess what I am asking is, will cindy be kept away from him.

Family visitation is allowed. Yes, Cindy will be able to see him. Unless he doesn't want to see her.

Ladyhawk
01-23-2009, 04:38 PM
"Cindy Anthony relayed that her husband had been "upset and depressed" about his granddaughter's death recently. On Wednesday Cindy had asked George to pick out jewelry for Caylee's funeral, which seemed to upset him more, reports show."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-george-anthony-caylee-012309,0,7934495.story

I’m sorry if this has been discussed, I just got here and I just read this and have only this to say….who would give a task such as this to a person they knew was upset and depressed and obviously on the edge? Unfortunately, all that’s left are bones…who puts jewelry on bones? What was Cindy trying to do?

rbrnmw
01-23-2009, 04:41 PM
Concerning the Baker act. Will they keep him in isolation ( no visitors) for this time. Guess what I am asking is, will cindy be kept away from him.
If he's lucky LOL sorry JMO

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 04:49 PM
Or not.

Investigators said the eight-page note indicated George Anthony was at the end of his rope, and that once he was gone, his family would have a better life. He wrote about how strong his daughter, Casey Anthony, is and said he doesn't believe she hurt her daughter, Caylee. However, he did make dark, veiled references to his daughter's friends.

Suicide Note Found With George Anthony (http://www.wesh.com/news/18546075/detail.html)

Well, I guess deep in my gut feeling things were not going to change, so I stand on all my posts that I have posted here. Good God!!! What is up with these people, I was really hoping for a change in George, but as I said before....I feel he is almost as dispicable as his daughter. I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he was truely deep in sorrow that he was on the verge of suicide, but now I am truely belieiving that it was all a setup. This all makes my stomach turn!
Caylee, I didn't know you, but I stand in support for justice for you.

Annie143
01-23-2009, 04:56 PM
I stand on all my posts that I have posted here. ..snipped.....Caylee, I didn't know you, but I stand in support for justice for you.ditto. My previous post as well. It didnt smell right....

kellabeck
01-23-2009, 05:01 PM
******************************
MSNBC just reported that Casey was told by the jail officials.
She "had no reaction".

That's because it wasn't about HER.

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 05:03 PM
I still sympathize with him, but good Heavens, what is it gonna take for him to realize that Casey killed Caylee? This is classic denial.

This isn't classic denial, IMO, he is the most despicable liar ever after his own daughter. I used to have a lot of respect for George, but now, I can't even describe my disgust for him. He is not in the deepest darkest hell over Caylee being murdered, he's accommodating his own murderous, lying, and devious daughter in covering up the most heinous of evils. I know this sounds harsh, but after hearing a portion of the letter he wrote, well...I may have to take a break from this nightmare.

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 05:14 PM
Where did you read the portion of the letter?

I'm sorry, I mean't reading this link - http://www.wesh.com/news/18546075/detail.html

The article gave a few portions of what he wrote...if this is true, then I am truely upset with George, and feel that the whole drama with the suicide was just a setup and attention getter for sympathy and to spin confusion on this case.

kellabeck
01-23-2009, 05:16 PM
I agree that he lied, but what if the context of those lies is not so clear? I think he lied to go along with a crazy story from Casey that lying was necessary to protect Caylee and the family from the kidnappers. Context could be everything here and there is a lot that we don't know. Who knows what crazy lies Casey told her parents.

Yes, but considering the facts, why on earth did they choose to believe her?

FACTS:
unmistakable smell of death in the car
Casey's not reporting the "kidnapping"
Lack of recognition from Caylee for the "nanny" and "Zach"
Casey's embezzling money from her own grandfather's nursing home funds and stealing gas cans from their shed
Casey's claiming to work at Universal when any brain power would have told them she wasn't employed at all!
Casey's stealing coins from her own toddler's piggy bank
Casey's behavior concerning the gas cans

Clearly, Casey's story made zero sense from the get-go to anyone with an ounce of logic. And yet, in the face of this mountain of evidence, the Ants chose to deny reality and throw their lot in with Casey and in fact, imo, lie for her.

Dells
01-23-2009, 05:18 PM
I still sympathize with him, but good Heavens, what is it gonna take for him to realize that Casey killed Caylee? This is classic denial.

I agree w/you. I don't even think a guilty verdict is going to convince George and Cindy that Casey is guilty of murdering Caylee...:ohmy:

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 05:19 PM
Thanks Landshark- I too was going to post the links for those on this thread that may have missed what other posters have put up that mentions some of the things in the note.

(for some reason- my mind went back to the JBR Ransom note that many referred to the War & Peace of RN- and now- this from George may be the War & Peace of despondency notes as well)

It did cross my mind if some of the unmarked pill bottles contained Xanax.

http://www.news-journalonline.com/newsjournalonline/breakingnews/george012309.htm



Suicide Note Found With George Anthony


http://www.wesh.com/news/18546075/detail.html

http://www.news-journalonline.com/newsjournalonline/breakingnews/george012309.htm

"A depressed George Anthony left his house, telling his wife he was headed to a job interview the day he was reported missing by his attorney, according to a report released this afternoon."
==========================


This part of the article just reiterates how the LYING does not end with this family!!!

WHY couldn't George have said he was simply "going out to clear his head???" Instead, he LIES about a job interview??!?! Casey is certainly his daughter and learned well. :cursing:


imo

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 05:21 PM
Or not.

Investigators said the eight-page note indicated George Anthony was at the end of his rope, and that once he was gone, his family would have a better life. He wrote about how strong his daughter, Casey Anthony, is and said he doesn't believe she hurt her daughter, Caylee. However, he did make dark, veiled references to his daughter's friends.

Suicide Note Found With George Anthony (http://www.wesh.com/news/18546075/detail.html)

Thanks for this reality check, LS. I DO have sympathy and KNOW their situation is a living H3LL......but reading the red highlighted brings us back to square one - STILL accusing others for what HIS daughter has done.

When, oh WHEN will these people learn to accept responsibility?!?! :cursing:

imo

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 05:23 PM
Yes, but considering the facts, why on earth did they choose to believe her?

FACTS:
unmistakable smell of death in the car
Casey's not reporting the "kidnapping"
Lack of recognition from Caylee for the "nanny" and "Zach"
Casey's embezzling money from her own grandfather's nursing home funds and stealing gas cans from their shed
Casey's claiming to work at Universal when any brain power would have told them she wasn't employed at all!
Casey's stealing coins from her own toddler's piggy bank
Casey's behavior concerning the gas cans

Clearly, Casey's story made zero sense from the get-go to anyone with an ounce of logic. And yet, in the face of this mountain of evidence, the Ants chose to deny reality and throw their lot in with Casey and in fact, imo, lie for her.

Amen, and Amen!! I don't get some posters who continue to think that the A's are just in denial. It isn't like their innocent daughter that never did anything wrong is wrongly accused of this crime. HELLO??? This case is way over crazy and IMO, it will be an open and shut case after it goes to the jury.
I sure do hope the A's see some type of punishment if they truely are covering up and causing a distraction. IMO, they are doing something and it isn't good!

MiamiNice1
01-23-2009, 05:24 PM
Well, I guess deep in my gut feeling things were not going to change, so I stand on all my posts that I have posted here. Good God!!! What is up with these people, I was really hoping for a change in George, but as I said before....I feel he is almost as dispicable as his daughter. I was going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he was truely deep in sorrow that he was on the verge of suicide, but now I am truely belieiving that it was all a setup. This all makes my stomach turn!
Caylee, I didn't know you, but I stand in support for justice for you.
You've articulated my sentiments, bhardy, I can agree with everything you've written in this post - 1000%.

NatalieB
01-23-2009, 05:26 PM
I feel so bad for George. I'm wondering if he knows he's going to have to testify against his daughter and he just can't bear that thought? LE had made a statement at one time saying the family will be a huge part of the prosecution of this case. I think that would weigh on any parent.

Regardless, George is definitely distraught and I will keep him in my prayers.

Jpanda
01-23-2009, 05:49 PM
I truely believe that GA is in pain and has stated before that he has thought of taking his life. I don't think he did this to get sympathy I really believe he doesn't want to live knowing that he will never see Caylee alive and that his daughter will spend the rest of her life in prison. That's alot to deal with. I know when my sister died 3 yrs ago my mother was very suicidal for a year and I know to this day she still thinks about it.

Good post, I completely agree. I have felt sadness all day just feeling so sorry for George and Cindy. I know they aren't popular with the general public, but they never asked for any of this, IMO. This whole situation is all Casey's fault and no matter what anyone feels about the A's, they don't deserve any of this, IMO.

The fact that he contemplated suicide is absolutely heartbreaking for me.

Praying so hard and hoping he recovers quickly. I can not even IMAGINE the he** that they live every day.

jmo

joolz
01-23-2009, 05:51 PM
Oh, my word. I cant believe he said that.....how does everyone feel now ?


So. . . he's convinced his daughter is not guilty and he's still trying to blame her friends, but he's so despondent that he's thinking about killing himself? Hmm, something about this just doesn't make sense to me.:rolleyes:

what a crock

Loves2Read
01-23-2009, 05:55 PM
"Cindy Anthony relayed that her husband had been "upset and depressed" about his granddaughter's death recently. On Wednesday Cindy had asked George to pick out jewelry for Caylee's funeral, which seemed to upset him more, reports show."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-george-anthony-caylee-012309,0,7934495.story

I’m sorry if this has been discussed, I just got here and I just read this and have only this to say….who would give a task such as this to a person they knew was upset and depressed and obviously on the edge? Unfortunately, all that’s left are bones…who puts jewelry on bones? What was Cindy trying to do?

Hmmm, maybe Cindy and Casey are more alike than we thought? I just read in the police report that George had taken a photo and all his meds with him on this "job interview". Cindy had noticed but did nothing until her lawyer called the police after getting distressing texts from George.... She KNOWS how to call 911. Why didn't she do it earlier? She was concerned at 4pm when he didn't show for an important meeting with Conway.... and still the police were not alerted until almost 11pm?

Do you think she might have had some plans to play the widow card and maybe sue some agencies for the death of her husband... not to mention he does have some life insurance. Just thinking out loud here... not saying that this is what was going on.:chicken:

WhiteShark
01-23-2009, 05:56 PM
The thing that gets me as quoted in the news journal link above. Cindy says George may have been upset because she asked him to help her pick out jewelry for little Caylee to be buried in..............WHAT??????????:ohmy:
http://www.news-journalonline.com/newsjournalonline/breakingnews/george012309.htm
This woman is a nutcase in and of itself.

Babes
01-23-2009, 05:56 PM
So. . . he's convinced his daughter is not guilty and he's still trying to blame her friends, but he's so despondent that he's thinking about killing himself? Hmm, something about this just doesn't make sense to me.:rolleyes:

what a crock

I wonder about the story behind Casey's friends and why they are bad per George - ... Anyone?

Loves2Read
01-23-2009, 05:57 PM
So. . . he's convinced his daughter is not guilty and he's still trying to blame her friends, but he's so despondent that he's thinking about killing himself? Hmm, something about this just doesn't make sense to me.:rolleyes:

what a crock

Maybe this was a last attempt to help his daughter if he really did end up dead at his own hand. Like a death bed thing.

WhiteShark
01-23-2009, 05:57 PM
Ladyhawk you and I were thinking alike.............LOL

joolz
01-23-2009, 05:59 PM
I wonder about the story behind Casey's friends and why they are bad per George - ... Anyone?

It's the ABC defense: anyone but Casey.

Anthony pretzel logic makes Casey a saint and all of them "suspicious." Amazingly, though , all of Casey's friends seem to have jobs and/or go to school, unlike mother of the year. :angry:

joolz
01-23-2009, 06:00 PM
Maybe this was a last attempt to help his daughter if he really did end up dead at his own hand. Like a death bed thing.

You are kinder than I am, Loves. :smile:

solar
01-23-2009, 06:00 PM
You're so right River. I think the As are so codependent it's not funny. Even had this never happened they could have used some form of help a la Alanon. IMHO they are addicted to drama. Caylee's death is most likely the culmination of years of this behavior.

I left the first thread to take care of some things. The whole time I was away I kept wondering about OCS taking possession of the unfinished letter. A part of me thinks it would have been kept within the confines of the mental health professionals treating him unless there was something of either evidentiary value or something important to the investigation.


According to the press conference this afternoon the OCSO is not in possession of the the unfinished letter.

imo

solar

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 06:01 PM
Hmmm, maybe Cindy and Casey are more alike than we thought? I just read in the police report that George had taken a photo and all his meds with him on this "job interview". Cindy had noticed but did nothing until her lawyer called the police after getting distressing texts from George.... She KNOWS how to call 911. Why didn't she do it earlier? She was concerned at 4pm when he didn't show for an important meeting with Conway.... and still the police were not alerted until almost 11pm?

Do you think she might have had some plans to play the widow card and maybe sue some agencies for the death of her husband... not to mention he does have some life insurance. Just thinking out loud here... not saying that this is what was going on.:chicken:

I think, IMO, that Cindy is the director in the little drama. I don't even think that their lawyer knows about the little skit they are trying to pull off. Come on! Really! (not to your post, but other posters here). This is so far of a stretch that it feels like I am watching a afternoon soap opera! IMO

farrahrani
01-23-2009, 06:02 PM
I think Cindy didn't make the call herself because people compare it to nobody calling the police when Caylee was unaccounted for. So the lawyer did it for her. I don't think it was George's intention to ever actually do it, now reading about how the eight page suicide note places blame on Casey's friends and all that. :cursing:

Seriously, who leaves behind a freaking novella length suicide note, esp. one that tries to clear a guilty party? I would have taken this as something genuine if he had simply mentioned his grief, but that bit about the friends kind of takes all the sincerity out of it.

Also, I may be wrong, but as far as the jewelry for the funeral,

Cindy might have been asking him to pick out something from her jewelry box for HER to wear. Seeing as their are no remains, only a skeleton, anything else would make no sense. :confused:

IMO as usual

Loves2Read
01-23-2009, 06:02 PM
The thing that gets me as quoted in the news journal link above. Cindy says George may have been upset because she asked him to help her pick out jewelry for little Caylee to be buried in..............WHAT??????????:ohmy:
http://www.news-journalonline.com/newsjournalonline/breakingnews/george012309.htm
This woman is a nutcase in and of itself.

I agree with Ladyhawk in her post where she wonders where they would have put that jewelry.

She admitted to the police that he had been very upset and depressed BEFORE she asked him to pick out jewelry for Caylee's funeral. She also admitted that this made him feel even worse. Like she couldn't have guessed that it would! It's almost as if she were TRYING to push him over the edge. He was thought to have been suicidal earlier in this case when the police took his gun from him. So it's not like she didn't know this could have happened. IMO

Babes
01-23-2009, 06:03 PM
It's the ABC defense: anyone but Casey.

Anthony pretzel logic makes Casey a saint and all of them "suspicious." Amazingly, though , all of Casey's friends seem to have jobs and/or go to school, unlike mother of the year. :angry:

More like...Casey was given drugs by friends and after that she started hallucinating and her mind started to twist and create different characters liker Zenaida Gonzales ? Hmmmm Casey looks like she's on drugs in one of her picture at Photobucket :unsure:

bhardy1956
01-23-2009, 06:05 PM
Maybe this was a last attempt to help his daughter if he really did end up dead at his own hand. Like a death bed thing.

Then he would be worse of a human being then he already is, IMO
Why would you lie to help your daughter that killed your granddaughter and take that with you to the grave??? I am sure Caylee would ask him "why Poppy?, why did you do that?" and then just walk away....that's if George sees heaven.
I usually don't post such things, but this the last straw for me on the A's!

Babes
01-23-2009, 06:05 PM
I think, IMO, that Cindy is the director in the little drama. I don't even think that their lawyer knows about the little skit they are trying to pull off. Come on! Really! (not to your post, but other posters here). This is so far of a stretch that it feels like I am watching a afternoon soap opera! IMO


Earlier, they said George sent text to two people and not CINDY... But article at Wesh said that Cindy received a text from George .... Who are we going to believe :crying:

Loves2Read
01-23-2009, 06:07 PM
I think Cindy didn't make the call herself because people compare it to nobody calling the police when Caylee was unaccounted for. So the lawyer did it for her. I don't think it was George's intention to ever actually do it, now reading about how the eight page suicide note places blame on Casey's friends and all that. :cursing:

Seriously, who leaves behind a freaking novella length suicide note, esp. one that tries to clear a guilty party? I would have taken this as something genuine if he had simply mentioned his grief, but that bit about the friends kind of takes all the sincerity out of it.

Also, I may be wrong, but as far as the jewelry for the funeral,

Cindy might have been asking him to pick out something from her jewelry box for HER to wear. Seeing as their are no remains, only a skeleton, anything else would make no sense. :confused:

IMO as usual

Someone posted a link to the police report on here and I read that Cindy told them the jewelry was for Caylee to have for the funeral.

joolz
01-23-2009, 06:08 PM
Earlier, they said George sent text to two people and not CINDY... But article at Wesh said that Cindy received a text from George .... Who are we going to believe :crying:


anyone but the Anthonys. jmo

Ladyhawk
01-23-2009, 06:10 PM
Hmmm, maybe Cindy and Casey are more alike than we thought? I just read in the police report that George had taken a photo and all his meds with him on this "job interview". Cindy had noticed but did nothing until her lawyer called the police after getting distressing texts from George.... She KNOWS how to call 911. Why didn't she do it earlier? She was concerned at 4pm when he didn't show for an important meeting with Conway.... and still the police were not alerted until almost 11pm?

Do you think she might have had some plans to play the widow card and maybe sue some agencies for the death of her husband... not to mention he does have some life insurance. Just thinking out loud here... not saying that this is what was going on.:chicken:

I don't think it was accidental that she asked him to pick out jewelry for Caylee......I think she knew it was the one thing that would totally drive him over the edge. How cruel can a person be....George, pick out some earrings for Caylee...oh no, wait, she doesn't have any ears. GMAB, that's just plain mean...meaner than anything else she's done. She's with that man night and day.....she had to know yet she asks him to pick out jewelry. That right there makes me believe you could be right.