What are we missing here?

[Babes]

Majority will say Casey is responsible for Caylee's death. I am one of them. With the release of couple evidences like
1. Heart Sticker ( Wherein Caylee's photoshopped pictures at Casey's Photobucket account has a heart )
2. Winnie The Pooh Blanket matched the Winnie The Pooh Best of Friends bedding set
3. The Laundry Hamper Bag that matched the one in Anthony's house.
4. Casey's Car and the smell of a dead person in the trunk of the car.
5. And ETC........maybe :)


Then why is the "DREAM TEAM" going to represent her? I even doubt the Anthony's can afford all of them - they might be providing their services for free. If they will represent her because of the "fame" they can get , excluding Baez and Garcia , they already made a name in the news ....

Here is the link for the DREAM TEAM :
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html


So let's talk about a particular topic on this thread - What are we missing on this case? What are we missing that these known names ( dream team - BADEN, HENRY LEE, KOBILINKSY, LENAMON, REICHS, HUNTINGTON AND SPITZ - and of course Baez and Garcia) are still going to represent the MOST LIAR PERSON OF 2008-2009 :ohmy:

Am also squeezing a POLL - Whether Casey is guilty - not guilty, insane or undecided yet

[JLP]

So let's talk about a particular topic on this thread - What are we missing on this case? What are we missing that these known names ( dream team - BADEN, HENRY LEE, KOBILINKSY, LENAMON, REICHS, HUNTINGTON AND SPITZ - and of course Baez and Garcia) are still going to represent the MOST LIAR PERSON OF 2008-2009
*********************

So they become even more famous...
Might not get $$ from this case but will in future cases.

[desmom]

IMO, we are not missing carp!

Didn't the Dream Team recruit Forensic anthropologist Scott Fairgrieve?

I think Reichs bailed. jmo

[Dells]

IMO, we are not missing carp!

Didn't the Dream Team recruit Forensic anthropologist Scott Fairgrieve?

I think Reichs bailed. jmo

I don't think we are missing anything. I think the dream team is representing her for the fame and publicity. I think as more evidence comes out it will be interesting to see who stays on the dream team and who jumps ship.

[LisaM22]

I said she should plead for Insanity, I think that is her only hope, admit guilt and claim Insanity - or maybe take the Winkler approach and claim abuse, the abuse excuse could work with the right jury

[Dells]

I said she should plead for Insanity, I think that is her only hope, admit guilt and claim Insanity - or maybe take the Winkler approach and claim abuse, the abuse excuse could work with the right jury

If the defense wants to claim insanity then they need to get her psychologically tested ASAP. On one of the talk shows the other day the TH's were saying that they think that insanity would be her only hope too. They didn't have much faith in the fake nanny defense.:rolleyes: I think it was on Prime News on HLN.

[LisaM22]

If the defense wants to claim insanity then they need to get her psychologically tested ASAP. On one of the talk shows the other day the TH's were saying that they think that insanity would be her only hope too. They didn't have much faith in the fake nanny defense.:rolleyes: I think it was on Prime News on HLN.

the only other excuse I could see is if the father of her child is family she could go with the abuse excuse, she could make up whatever abuse story she wanted (she doesn't have to prove it, just tell it), a jury may or may not believe her, but if the dna backed up her claim of who the father was, then even if she was not abused, she could still say she was and make it believable imo - she could say in her mind she thought she was saving the baby from a life of the same types of abuse?

[sunbunny]

**snipped**
2. Winnie The Pooh Blanket matched the Winnie The Pooh Best of Friends bedding set
3. The Laundry Hamper Bag that matched the one in Anthony's house.
**snipped**

Am also squeezing a POLL - Whether Casey is guilty - not guilty, insane or undecided yet

she's guilty, of course. but can you link me up to the link where it says those the two items above are "matched" to the ones in the Anthony home? especially #3? i didn't know the description of the laundry bag was disclosed? :confused:

TIA! :seeya:

[LisaM22]

Lisa... I would look forward to the insanity defense.

Its not everyday a trial comes along where the defense has the burden of proof.

the goal might not be to actually get her found insane, but to be found guilty of a lessor included charge like manslaughter as juries often chose a middle ground when offered more then two choices

[Babes]

she's guilty, of course. but can you link me up to the link where it says those the two items above are "matched" to the ones in the Anthony home? especially #3? i didn't know the description of the laundry bag was disclosed? :confused:

TIA! :seeya:


Hi

The article ive'd read earlier from my googling said the Laundry Bag just match what Cindy Anthony gave LE - ...With the Winnie The Pooh - the picture of Caylee's room with Cindy Anthony on it shows the Winnie The Pooh bedding set ... One article also said that , LE are looking for the other Winnie The Pooh items... I know i will owe you a link - Ill google it tomorrow again

[StarShine]

While I think Casey is responsible for the death of Caylee, until I have all the facts I intend not to make any decision either way. I want to see all these facts in court not in the papers. I do not trust the press.

[NYGalPal]

Doesn't make sense. You don't trust the media, so how else do you intend to see all the facts? Are you saying all the info that has been reported is wrong? If you can't see Casey killed her daughter after reading the recent released docs from the LE, you'll never see it.

Too each his own.

[trich]

only 3 of those "experts" are listed as defense witnesses"
Personally I think Lee has no credibility to start with ...he is phoney as can be.
I think the others are going to be sorry they are even involved.
Notice Kathy quit....she has integrety where as the others not so much.IMO.

[Babes]

she's guilty, of course. but can you link me up to the link where it says those the two items above are "matched" to the ones in the Anthony home? especially #3? i didn't know the description of the laundry bag was disclosed? :confused:

TIA! :seeya:

Hi again...

Ok yesterday i went to this forum
http://www.evthreads.com/showthread.php?p=949125
and the poster placed this news :

Tonight its been announced that the bag Caylee was found in matches a bag that Cindy handed over to Police in July.
Fla. Bar Investigating Casey Anthony's Attorney - pointing this to a link at http://www.wftv.com/news/18541911/detail.html - so i went to this link and i saw in the article that Cindy Anthony gave a laundry bag to LE that matched the laundry bag found with Caylee. I went back to the link right now and it looks like they edited it. Ive'd seen on other post from other forum that this was also mention on Nancy Grace ( but am not sure - i didnt watch the show )

With Winnie The Pooh Blanket -
"The documents show Caylee's body was ditched with her Winnie the Pooh blanket "
Based on what investigators found with Caylee's remains in the wooded area less than a half-mile from Caylee's house, they went back there that day looking for several things to link the murder to Caylee's mother Casey. They went back for trash bags, duct tape, their packaging and any receipts associated with them, Winnie the Pooh clothing and accessories which were plentiful in Caylee's room, small clothes with iron-on lettering, towels, blankets, diapers, pull-up pants with a flower design like the ones found with Caylee's remains and all toothbrushes, hairbrushes and cell phones
http://www.wftv.com/news/18541911/detail.html

[Babes]

Results of the POLL so far :
Casey is GUILTY of Killing Caylee 62 91.18%
Casey is NOT GUILTY of Killing Caylee 0 0%
Casey should plead for INSANITY 3 4.41%
Undecided for now 4 5.88%

[Babes]

I said she should plead for Insanity, I think that is her only hope, admit guilt and claim Insanity - or maybe take the Winkler approach and claim abuse, the abuse excuse could work with the right jury

IMO We saw some problems on Casey's actions from the many videos released. We cant believe how crazy she acted on many of them. Any possibility that this girl really needs mental help but her attorney Baez doesnt want to go that way ( insanity defense or any multiple personality defects ) as he wanted this to go on trial for his "career benefits" ?

[VII]

An insane person doesn't go out dancing, get a tattoo, sleep with boyfriends, etc.. The insanity plea will not fly.


ABsolutely

[DixieChick]

IMO We saw some problems on Casey's actions from the many videos released. We cant believe how crazy she acted on many of them. Any possibility that this girl really needs mental help but her attorney Baez doesnt want to go that way ( insanity defense or any multiple personality defects ) as he wanted this to go on trial for his "career benefits" ?

She is a classic psycopath.... needs to spend her life in prison.

[Grins]

Everything has a staged look. Just too much.
A murder made to look like a burglary will usually have every drawer in the house overturned and scattered. An amateur going overboard.

=web searches= D is so intelligent that she can search for peroxide, acetone and alcohol, which can be used to make chloroform but is so stupid she must look up shovel??? D doesn't know what a shovel is? [look up shovel for yourself and see what it says]

hmmmmm ok toss in =neck breaking=ooooeee=pile on =household objects to use to kill=that'll get 'em=missing children too! yup they will get it!!
=of course this puter will go right to police lab and they will love this stuff=

=why not duct tape to increase outrage ==better yet put a heart sticker on it=case over!!

=do not dispose of body in areas where it will never be found although there are countless ones nearby=plant it in a place associated with D since childhood!

=add blanket and ...and......and....

[Regina.Lampert]

Everything has a staged look. Just too much.
A murder made to look like a burglary will usually have every drawer in the house overturned and scattered. An amateur going overboard.

=web searches= D is so intelligent that she can search for peroxide, acetone and alcohol, which can be used to make chloroform but is so stupid she must look up shovel??? D doesn't know what a shovel is? [look up shovel for yourself and see what it says]

hmmmmm ok toss in =neck breaking=ooooeee=pile on =household objects to use to kill=that'll get 'em=missing children too! yup they will get it!!
=of course this puter will go right to police lab and they will love this stuff=

=why not duct tape to increase outrage ==better yet put a heart sticker on it=case over!!

=do not dispose of body in areas where it will never be found although there are countless ones nearby=plant it in a place associated with D since childhood!

=add blanket and ...and......and....

Morning Grinnie! Who do you think staged it?

[Amy]

Majority will say Casey is responsible for Caylee's death. I am one of them. With the release of couple evidences like
1. Heart Sticker ( Wherein Caylee's photoshopped pictures at Casey's Photobucket account has a heart )
2. Winnie The Pooh Blanket matched the Winnie The Pooh Best of Friends bedding set
3. The Laundry Hamper Bag that matched the one in Anthony's house.
4. Casey's Car and the smell of a dead person in the trunk of the car.
5. And ETC........maybe :)


Then why is the "DREAM TEAM" going to represent her? I even doubt the Anthony's can afford all of them - they might be providing their services for free. If they will represent her because of the "fame" they can get , excluding Baez and Garcia , they already made a name in the news ....

Here is the link for the DREAM TEAM :
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/casey-anthony-1.html


So let's talk about a particular topic on this thread - What are we missing on this case? What are we missing that these known names ( dream team - BADEN, HENRY LEE, KOBILINKSY, LENAMON, REICHS, HUNTINGTON AND SPITZ - and of course Baez and Garcia) are still going to represent the MOST LIAR PERSON OF 2008-2009 :ohmy:

Am also squeezing a POLL - Whether Casey is guilty - not guilty, insane or undecided yet

Don't suppose we are missing anything here. It has become a high profile case, so it's not surprising to see some big names on the board. If they can get some payment thru whatever means the family comes up with (say, books, movies, etc etc etc) they will take that. Otherwise, it keeps their mugs out in the public eye--and when the next oj type trial comes along, they will be remembered. Or they will be tapped for the defense of someone rich who WILL be willing and able to pay out the snozz for a defense--whether it remains a local case or also becomes high profile. And, heck, there is always the possibility of becoming a TH on NG or GVS after this is all over.

All it takes is to confuse the issues (my expert vs your expert) and get ONE person to waffle on how this sweet, loving young mother (overwhelmed hardworking single mom--if defense can convince even ONE that she worked and supported her baby) could NEVER have been the one to kill her. The waffler doesn't even have to base his/her decision on FACTS or EVIDENCE, but it hangs the jury just the same. Some people might think the likes of Henry Lee and all the big, big names means that the defendant must be innocent. All it take is ONE. A hung jury for the defense is as good as a win.

[Grins]

Morning Grinnie! Who do you think staged it?Hey you Scamp!
Surprises in store...
Soon others will emerge as admitting to certain things; watch for 'Brady material' =exculpatory evidence= from SA =some polygraphs involved and evidence of reliability= new names= old names=money involved=

~these are just hunches from an old war horse whose nose has been twitchin'.....

[kitty1182]

I picked this one..


Casey is GUILTY of Killing Caylee.

[court~critic1®]

I am sure my opine will be the same on July 22 2009 as it is today..........GUILTY

[StarShine]

Doesn't make sense. You don't trust the media, so how else do you intend to see all the facts? Are you saying all the info that has been reported is wrong? If you can't see Casey killed her daughter after reading the recent released docs from the LE, you'll never see it.

Too each his own.

What doesn't make sense is your post to me. If it's too each his own, then why waste a post to me telling me that. If you read my post correctly you would have seen that I think Casey is responsible for the death of Caylee. Therefore no need for your lecture.

[tvdinners]

Insanity???

She doesn't meet the legal criteria at all:
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/insanity

For one thing, imo - She covered her tracks - therefore she's legally sane.

[Rayosunshine]

I think we are clearly missing the information that has not been released by the prosecution. That should really be insightful.

[NatalieB]

I hope Baez visits this site from time to time. I have followed my share of trials in the past and I have NEVER seen a poll where the defendant doesn't have a few hagglers on their side. Casey's goose is cooked, IMO. Till trial, I'm sure a few will turn up and they'll be shocked and cry foul when a guilty verdict is handed down.

She can't plead insanity because her actions prove she knew the difference between right and wrong. Covering her tracks proves as much. Look at Hinkley, Andrea Yates, that woman who stoned her children to death and that mother in Texas who cut the daughter's arm off. Not one of them tried to cover a thing. Insanity is very difficult to prove (and the burden does indeed switch at that point) and Casey has ZERO chance of being successful with it, IMO.

It would also mean she'd have to admit guilt. There is no way on God's green Earth that that will EVER happen. She sees herself as a victim in all this. She just has no grasp of what she's done. It's all about HER.

[neid_77]

why does one person deserve a team like this anyway? especially after lying to authorities they way she did..just don't get it no one has recieved a team like this before...what makes her so special?

[Heyes]

This reminds me of juror #10 (Spector case). No matter what the facts are it is always possible to avoid deciding, just say "I'm still listening".

In this world it is often necessary to make a decision. How do you manage to live while spending all of this time on the fence? :unsure:


I Love this post!
My thoughts exactly..... throughout many a trial. Thanks for expressing it better than I could.

[Heyes]

why does one person deserve a team like this anyway? especially after lying to authorities they way she did..just don't get it no one has recieved a team like this before...what makes her so special?


There is one little connection that I can't seem to get off my mind....
Biaz = Geraldo = Fox news = "Experts" = $$$$$$
imo

[NatalieB]

why does one person deserve a team like this anyway? especially after lying to authorities they way she did..just don't get it no one has recieved a team like this before...what makes her so special?

It's the trial of the decade. Everyone who thinks they are someone (and IMO, it's in their own minds) wants a hand in the cookie jar. LKB for defense attorney? Please, what did she ever do in criminal law? Babysit Phil Spector? Henry Lee = has been. They all have these huge heads and think they're all that, but truth be told, they're no brighter than many others in their respective fields, and, none of them have credibility anymore. Bring em on. It makes the state's case that much easier, IMO.

[Hey Paula]

Since they've stuck to "Zanny the nanny did it", I suspect they will go with this at trial. They might claim LE never located THE Zenaida Gonzalez, since Casey has already denied knowing the ZG who toured the Sawgrass Apts. Casey has already said she gave Zani a key to the Anthony home. Perhaps the Defense will claim this is how the crime scene links to the house. Unless the duct tape contains Casey's fingerprints/DNA, or can be linked to items used at the July 4th celebrations Casey attended, I suspect the Defense will claim Zani put the tape on Caylee's mouth to keep her from screaming.

If that fails, the Defense can always claim that Casey lived in the Anthony house with other family members who could be responsible for Caylee's demise, unless of course there is irrefutable physical evidence linking Casey exclusively.

To add reasonable doubt, I think the Defense will make hay with Roy Kronk having made several calls to report a mysterious plastic bag at the crime scene, on three consecutive days in August, and of him having expressed apprehension about calling LE for fear the bag might contain a body, especially since the area was littered with refuse, and ultimately revisiting the area 4 months later only to have his fear realized when a skull rolled out of the bag.

The Defense might dismiss Casey's odd behavior by quoting Cindy, who is said to have told others that her daughter is a sociopath, and that there are many sociopaths among us, who are devoid of feelings, but are not murderers.

In the end, upon review of all the evidence submitted and testimony heard, I believe Casey's jury will apply common sense and will reject that which is unreasonable, and barring something unknown, will agree that Casey is responsible for Caylee's demise.

For the sake of her family, I hope Casey pleads guilty and spares them the additional burden of having to testify against her.

IMO

[Heyes]

Since they've stuck to "Zanny the nanny did it", I suspect they will go with this at trial. They might claim LE never located THE Zenaida Gonzalez, since Casey has already denied knowing the ZG who toured the Sawgrass Apts. Casey has already said she gave Zani a key to the Anthony home. Perhaps the Defense will claim this is how the crime scene links to the house. Unless the duct tape contains Casey's fingerprints/DNA, or can be linked to items used at the July 4th celebrations Casey attended, I suspect the Defense will claim Zani put the tape on Caylee's mouth to keep her from screaming.

If that fails, the Defense can always claim that Casey lived in the Anthony house with other family members who could be responsible for Caylee's demise, unless of course there is irrefutable physical evidence linking Casey exclusively.

To add reasonable doubt, I think the Defense will make hay with Roy Kronk having made several calls to report a mysterious plastic bag at the crime scene, on three consecutive days in August, and of him having expressed apprehension about calling LE for fear the bag might contain a body, especially since the area was littered with refuse, and ultimately revisiting the area 4 months later only to have his fear realized when a skull rolled out of the bag.

The Defense might dismiss Casey's odd behavior by quoting Cindy, who is said to have told others that her daughter is a sociopath, and that there are many sociopaths among us, who are devoid of feelings, but are not murderers.

In the end, upon review of all the evidence submitted and testimony heard, I believe Casey's jury will apply common sense and will reject that which is unreasonable, and barring something unknown, will agree that Casey is responsible for Caylee's demise.

For the sake of her family, I hope Casey pleads guilty and spares them the additional burden of having to testify against her.

IMO

Me thinks one of my favorite posters here can predict the future!
Hope all is well Paula!
:thumbsup:

[Hey Paula]

Me thinks one of my favorite posters here can predict the future!
Hope all is well Paula!
:thumbsup:

LOL! :laugh:

This is such a sad and tragic case!

Good to see you, my friend! I hope all is well with you and yours, Heyes!

[BobbisAngel]

Did Cindy go out and buy a new Winnie the Pooh blanket to protect her daughter? I recall a pic of her looking at a teddy bear next to the bed, and the WTP cover was there. Maybe that's why she didn't want to show LE her JC Penny's receipt. Or - maybe there's another blanket I'm not seeing here.

Just curious!


It sounds like the blanket was either replaced...didn't Lee have receipts from Pennys and one amount would have been about right for a comforter like the one on Caylee's bed....OR Caylee had a Pooh blanket that was her favorite blanket...one that you wrap a baby in when you are going to take them outside...with satan edging...that she may have taken everywhere with her like little kids do. Maybe it wasn't a blanket from her bed set but another Pooh blanket.

Something just dawned on me and I'm going to write it before I forget. The letters that were found with Caylee...I wonder if those letters hadn't been on the shirt they found with her but in the water and damp weather they came off. That makes more sense to me then some letters just thrown into the bag with her. I think they had spelled something on the shirt.

In thinking about the items that we know of that were found in the bag with Caylee it almost sounds like Casey was burying her with her favorite things with the exception of her doll unless it was in there and we haven't been told cause that would be a biggie. But she put a toy horse or two in there...possibly her favorite book...her Pooh blanket and other things that haven't been named yet. A heart sticker might have been a favorite of Caylee's so she added one of those and then dumped her in those woods believing that she would never be found.
She was probably perfectly satisfied with herself as Caylee had her favorite things with her and Casey walked off and didn't look back.

[Hey Paula]

Well Hello there Miss Paula:biggrin:

This really is a sad case. That poor little girl caught up in all her Mom's
drama.

Good to see you. Hope things are great in NY!

Hi there TM! :smile:

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this case, i.e., if you don't mind sharing them.

I've thought about you often and wondered how you were because I haven't seen you in a while! I hope all is well with you and yours!

[BobbisAngel]

why does one person deserve a team like this anyway? especially after lying to authorities they way she did..just don't get it no one has recieved a team like this before...what makes her so special?

Casey thinks she is special but for the life of me I don't know why anyone else would think so.

I can't figure out why these bigwigs want to be involved in this case either. Do they want this @itch out there in society again? Don't they have an ounce of compassion for that little girl whose life was taken because her mother didn't want to be tied down with the responsibility of a child? These guys don't need to have their names out there...they are already well known and not always in a positive light. Most of them are retirement age or close to it. I don't think they are getting paid in all honesty. I just wonder how much they really know about this case?

I'll bet that they have never met the killer mother...know very little about the ins and outs of this case. They could have said no when asked to give an opinion in court. They are going to side with the defense if they stay with this case because that is who they are working for. The defense won't have them if they aren't siding with them. I've totally lost respect for the ones that I did have respect for. I think they have gotten old and senile.

[Adalena935]

As of today July 22, 2009 - What do you think of Casey?

Did you mean to type 2008?

[Grins]

Seven things are missing:
=an eyewitness as to who killed C
=an eyewitness as to who put the tape on C
=cause of death
=circumstances of death
=place of death, for jurisdictional purposes
=eyewitness to who placed her body in the bags
=who transported body to dump site

Can all of these be proven by circumstantial evidence? The state has the burden of proving every element of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. Each crime charged has different elements. The state must choose one.

[Babes]

As of today July 22, 2009 - What do you think of Casey?

Did you mean to type 2008?

Hi Adalena!!!!

I mean January 22, 2009 :w00t:

sorry for the error...

[Babes]

LOL! :laugh:

This is such a sad and tragic case!

Good to see you, my friend! I hope all is well with you and yours, Heyes!

Hey woman... Happy New Year to you... Nice to see that we are on the same side again... i think everyone is on the same side on this case - and that is -obviously - The spoiled brat is guilty :seeya:

[Babes]

View Poll Results: As of today January 22, 2009 - What do you think of Casey?
Casey is GUILTY of Killing Caylee 114 95.00%
Casey is NOT GUILTY of Killing Caylee 0 0%
Casey should plead for INSANITY 3 2.50%
Undecided for now 4 3.33%

[NatalieB]

Seven things are missing:
=an eyewitness as to who killed C
=an eyewitness as to who put the tape on C
=cause of death
=circumstances of death
=place of death, for jurisdictional purposes
=eyewitness to who placed her body in the bags
=who transported body to dump site

Can all of these be proven by circumstantial evidence? The state has the burden of proving every element of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. Each crime charged has different elements. The state must choose one.

1. Most are convicted without ever having anyone come forth to say they witnessed the murder.

2. Same as #1

3. Not a burden the state must meet, regardless if you think so or not.

4. Same as #3

5. There is ZERO evidence that Caylee's body ever left the Orange County area. If the defense feels otherwise, let them deal with that motion and see how it turns out for them.

6. Same as #1 and #2. You're just being redundant now, IMO.

7. Same as #1, #2 and #6 above.

Brush up, the state must prove that Caylee was murdered, and it was at the hands of her mother. They obviously feel they can do just that, thus the reason they made the arrest. I of course would NEVER want to deny Casey the right to a trial, but to be clear, jurors will be WELL versed on what the state's burden is, even if posters are not.

[NatalieB]

Hi ya Paula :seeya: It's great reading you again, my friend. I hope all is well your way.

I concur with your earlier post. For the defense to even have a chance at winning (which I think will never happen), they're going to have to bring forth something to show that a ZFG does indeed exist. As far as we know, there isn't a single photo to prove it. We also have George clearing stating that when he mentioned her, there was ZERO recognition on Caylee's part. We also know the Hopkins guy and his son never hired this particular nanny, too.

As for the ZFG that did visit SG apartments, she drove a very similar automobile to the one Casey claimed. I've seen side by side photos of them and it would be easy to get them mixed up. Her name IS Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez (hyphen and all). We saw this spelling on the lawsuit that she brought forth against Casey. She was at that apartment complex and we know Casey had friends there. To our knowledge, it's been said that she probably thought Annie Downing still lived there with that one guy (who I can't recall off the top of my head). LP (who I don't put much stock in) has also claimed she had a friend there by the name of Samantha. There are lots of reasons to believe it was indeed this ZFG that Casey was trying to implicate early on.

As you said, the jury will see thru all the smoke and mirrors and find Casey guilty. IMO, it's not a matter of if, it's only a matter of when, and for what degree. The state feels they can prove murder 1. That screams that there is more to this than we're aware of. Thanks to the Sunshine Law, we probably won't have to wait much longer to find out what it is.

BTW, BobbisAngel,
Wasn't the doll found inside the car when the Anthony's picked it up? Along of course, with the car seat?

[i_pickle]

why does one person deserve a team like this anyway? especially after lying to authorities they way she did..just don't get it no one has recieved a team like this before...what makes her so special?It's not that she "deserves" the so-called dream team. It's the greed and spotlight motives of the members of the team that flocked to this case for their own benefit.

JMO

[canada]

Everything has a staged look. Just too much.
A murder made to look like a burglary will usually have every drawer in the house overturned and scattered. An amateur going overboard.

=web searches= D is so intelligent that she can search for peroxide, acetone and alcohol, which can be used to make chloroform but is so stupid she must look up shovel??? D doesn't know what a shovel is? [look up shovel for yourself and see what it says]

hmmmmm ok toss in =neck breaking=ooooeee=pile on =household objects to use to kill=that'll get 'em=missing children too! yup they will get it!!
=of course this puter will go right to police lab and they will love this stuff=

=why not duct tape to increase outrage ==better yet put a heart sticker on it=case over!!

=do not dispose of body in areas where it will never be found although there are countless ones nearby=plant it in a place associated with D since childhood!

=add blanket and ...and......and....


Staged by???
Casey isn't exactly a criminal mastermind. She killed her daughter by abuse and neglect...I think she drugged Caylee, duct taped her and went partying with her boyfriend who wanted nothing to do with kids/family life and just wanted a piece of a$$...which Casey was very willing to give. Motive...to life the single life and was unable to do it on her own without her parents looking after her child for her (due to the big fight). Casey knew the jig was up on stealing from family/friends etc. and was desperate. As with most murderers they leave clues...the first one being not reporting Caylee missing...and she wouldn't have if her Mother didn't force that hand. Then the web of lies (and she was used to lying) started and snowballed...and here we are.

As for the people that have said that Reichs has bailed out...is there a link?

[neid_77]

Seven things are missing:
=an eyewitness as to who killed C
=an eyewitness as to who put the tape on C
=cause of death
=circumstances of death
=place of death, for jurisdictional purposes
=eyewitness to who placed her body in the bags
=who transported body to dump site

Can all of these be proven by circumstantial evidence? The state has the burden of proving every element of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. Each crime charged has different elements. The state must choose one.

Grin i wrote on the other thread about this...do you not want justice for caylee???? how many murders happen without a witness..sometimes the witness is forensics!.........and how do you know really if LE doesn't know the cuase of death?...AND an i witness to see who put her in the bags believe me if they find evidence that links the house and the crimescene together it's a go!..like i said before how many people witness muders??? know one is around most of the time it's the forensics so what are you getting at??? i really believe the circumstances of death are speaking out pretty loud and clear don't you?....did you forget that silver duct tape...sit back and watch how the prosecution will nail casey to the wall...even with every effort her worthless lawyer throws at her

[NatalieB]

It was stated that Caylee went no where without her "mama" doll........if Casey was seeking objects for supposed comfort for her baby the first thing would have been the mama doll that was LEFT in the car at Amscott...........So I question the contents at the scene where Caylee was found in that sense . I am thinking that the blanket ,books and such were in the bag because the body fluids seeped onto these items and in getting rid of the smell were necessary to have been gotten rid of too.

Why was that doll left behind ? Why would Casey place body right behind her own house where it should have been and would have been the first place one would think to look ? Why did Casey need to buy a gas can if her gas gauge did in fact work fine ? As the testing said it did. Why would someone who had 31 days and was said to been planning the murder for so long in advance and yet 31 days to come up with a story from HEXX as an excuse to where her daughter was not have a story tha was even remotely believable not have one ? Why would someone insist that is all they know and stick with the most bizzare story ever heard when already proven from day one Zanny did not have any connections to anything that Casey has reported ?


I've had 7 months to think of this now and I can't come up with one thing to explain this .


Someone who had faked having a job for 2 years should have could have would have been able to come up with a story that would be bought by all ..............that is not unreasonable to think .


So WHAT is the excuse here .........there is something we are all missing , there has to be.

It's all speculation on my part, but I've been wondering if those escort searches weren't done for the purpose of Casey preparing to flee if need be when this all came to light. It surely would be an easy way to turn a buck in a new city. She did beg Cindy for one more day. Why? What was one more day going to do? It could have gotten her out of town, huh? If we're to believe someone took Caylee and Casey feared for the family's safety, why did she not beg and plead with her mother to not call 911?

This case comes down to common sense and nothing more, IMO.

[FrankieBones1]

What's missing?

The only thing that is missing right now is Casey coming forward to take responsibility and admit to her guilt. This will save her parents more heartache. It'll certainly safe the State a lot of money and make her defense lawyer a hero if he is able to talk her into telling the truth.

[FrankieBones1]

Seven things are missing:
=an eyewitness as to who killed C
=an eyewitness as to who put the tape on C
=cause of death
=circumstances of death
=place of death, for jurisdictional purposes
=eyewitness to who placed her body in the bags
=who transported body to dump site

Can all of these be proven by circumstantial evidence? The state has the burden of proving every element of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt. Each crime charged has different elements. The state must choose one.
Hi, Grins. Good to 'see' you!
Your list of 'missing' will not matter when the State produces their case. I have faith that they will bring everything together and answer those questions for the jurors.

[Dells]

What's missing?

The only thing that is missing right now is Casey coming forward to take responsibility and admit to her guilt. This will save her parents more heartache. It'll certainly safe the State a lot of money and make her defense lawyer a hero if he is able to talk her into telling the truth.

Great post!:thumbsup: ITA!

[NatalieB]

The state of Florida (or any other state for that matter) will never have to prove cause of death. Manner of death, absolutely, and it's homicide and I have no doubt the state will prove as much. No one can be allowed to walk simply because cause of death cannot be ascertained.

We still don't know how Laci Peterson was murdered, but we sure know who is responsible for her death. He is now sitting in San Quentin on death row. IMO, Casey Anthony was every bit as evil and deserves nothing less than Scott received. Perhaps Casey is more evil since she murdered a child who didn't even have a slight chance of defending herself.