WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON JAN 21st PART 2

[callmetree]

afternoon thread ready when you are.

[callmetree]

Wow, nice threads! :thumbsup:

ahh gee guys:blushing:

[RiverWalk]

Bringing this over:

Since the report did not specify that it was the same sticker, my mind automatically went to two different stickers. Your theory makes alot more sense than mine trying to figure out how a rogue sticker could survive the storm. I still have suspicions about those remains being placed in that spot by someone other than Casey and well after the PI took the video showing nothing was there, so of course I am looking for those type of angles.

Thank you for posting this. It does make sense.

The video that Hoover took of Dom. Casey is NOT the same "spot" where Caylee was found.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18436081/index.html

[uberwe]

Hi Guys -

I just got home and read the end of the Part 1 thread - it looks like there is something going on today? Would you fill me in? (The Cliff Notes version is fine, lol!)

Uberwe

[funkyflower]

I found the information on the bedding set on Caylee's bed and what accesssories were available. All sold exclusively at Target. "Best of Friends" Set.http://www.crowncraftsinfantproducts.com/index.php?template=brand_detail&id=41
Products Avaliable:
4pc Bedding Set

Crib Sheet

4pk Flannels

Pooh Plush Lamp & Shade

Curtain Sheer

Keepsake Pillow

Basket Set

Night Light

Wallpaper Border

Pooh Security Blanket with Teether

Gift Set - Plush Toy with Printed Fleece Blanket

Luxury Plush Throw

Ribbed Velboa Blanket

Plush Blanket with Satin Back & Border

Coral Blanket

Cuddle Plush Blanket
Available Exclusively at:
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[trt]

Thanks for the new thread! Bringing this over...

I am confused about something. Cindy went back to work after they got the car? So how did George get to the towyard? And when did Cindy say "It's the pizza right George?"

Good point...also, didn't Lee say that George told him that he was going to work and that Lee needed to come over and smooth things out because Casey and Cindy were at it again? So when did that happen? Did Cindy go to work AFTER finding Casey? BEFORE finding Casey, or did George go to the towyard alone and call Cindy informing her of the smell? Or what the heck happened that day?

[CelticDawn]

hi guys -

i just got home and read the end of the part 1 thread - it looks like there is something going on today? Would you fill me in? (the cliff notes version is fine, lol!)

uberwe

new documents!!!!!

[Motomom]

I think she believes the more details she gives, the more credible her story.
Everything she said was easily checked out and debunked.

An accomplished liar, yes.
A smart one, no way.

imo

That seems to be what liars do. Especially when they have lied for a long time. They add and add.. probably the reason it is easy to detect a lie, too much Info, yet their pea brains they think the more the better.

It's really breaking my heart today how Caylee was found :(

ETA brought over from other thread..

Also..for anyone just joining us, all of the links are posted in the links threads.

[joolz]

I've been reading through the released docs and the threads. Someone posted a picture of what they thought was the same kind of hamper that was found with the remains and the plastic bag, and if that is correct, there is no way Cindy wouldn't have noticed that it was missing from the house. It's also something that would beg an explanation given the fact that Casey was just bumming around and had no apartment of her own - Cindy would have to ask why would she take it, wouldn't she?

[RiverWalk]

I've been reading through the released docs and the threads. Someone posted a picture of what they thought was the same kind of hamper that was found with the remains and the plastic bag, and if that is correct, there is no way Cindy wouldn't have noticed that it was missing from the house. It's also something that would beg an explanation given the fact that Casey was just bumming around and had no apartment of her own - Cindy would have to ask why would she take it, wouldn't she?

I posted the picture of "a" laundry bag/hamper to show there are different kinds. We don't know the exact type of cloth bag.

ETA picture: http://www.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?DeptID=63712&CatID=63712&Grptyp=PRD&ItemId=14e7ace&siteID=210054369

[Leelee68]

I am thinking that the laundry bag is something similar to what is used in the military. They are usually off white color with the ropes at the top to close it. The docs don't say winnie the pooh laundry bag just laundry bag and pooh blanket. I wonder if Tony or his friends owned a laundry bag that Casey may have taken.

[uberwe]

new documents!!!!!

Thanks Celtic! Does anyone have the link to the new docs?

Uberwe

[RiverWalk]

Links II thread here on this forum

[read-in]

Good afternoon fellow posters;
just got done reading all new doc's
I really dont know what to say; THEY KNEW..
THEY HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN...
jmo.:confused:

[playnice]

Is there still more coming out today or is this all of it?

[playnice]

Good afternoon fellow posters;
just got done reading all new doc's
I really dont know what to say; THEY KNEW..
THEY HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN...
jmo.:confused:

Sure is looking that way. They had to find Casey and get there stories straight because people were going to start wanting to see Caylee.

[cassidy]

That seems to be what liars do. Especially when they have lied for a long time. They add and add.. probably the reason it is easy to detect a lie, too much Info, yet their pea brains they think the more the better.

It's really breaking my heart today how Caylee was found :(

ETA brought over from other thread..

Also..for anyone just joining us, all of the links are posted in the links threads.

Actually, IMO, Casey was led to believe she was a good liar by her family, who believed everything she said. She's probably having a hard time coming to grips with the fact that the rest of the world is questioning her. It's beyond her comprehension.

IMO

[cuddlyrunner]

I have to go to bed soon-do we think this is it for today?

[ishkabibble]

Thanks for the new thread! Bringing this over...



Good point...also, didn't Lee say that George told him that he was going to work and that Lee needed to come over and smooth things out because Casey and Cindy were at it again? So when did that happen? Did Cindy go to work AFTER finding Casey? BEFORE finding Casey, or did George go to the towyard alone and call Cindy informing her of the smell? Or what the heck happened that day?

yes in the interviews with LE I believe Cindy tells Detectives she and George both went back to work that is why they took the battery out of the car, they were concerned Casey would show up and take it. Cindy leaves work earlier than normal goes home, looks thru car removes pants and (I think )attempts to clean spot in trunk, finds Amy's number and the story goes from there, George doesn't get home til late 10-11 I think. by then he has heard from Cindy that something is definately wrong, calls Lee to go check on his mom and Casey. Cops are there when he gets home.

[cassidy]

Good afternoon fellow posters;
just got done reading all new doc's
I really dont know what to say; THEY KNEW..
THEY HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN...
jmo.:confused:

IMO they have known since the minute they smelled that car.

[uberwe]

Links II thread here on this forum


Thanks RiverWalk - I didn't even know that was there - I don't post very often so I'm sorta outta the loop. :)

Thanks again,
Uberwe

[jammies]

Good afternoon fellow posters;
just got done reading all new doc's
I really dont know what to say; THEY KNEW..
THEY HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN...
jmo.:confused:


And WE have always known that THEY have always known!

[funkyflower]

I've been reading through the released docs and the threads. Someone posted a picture of what they thought was the same kind of hamper that was found with the remains and the plastic bag, and if that is correct, there is no way Cindy wouldn't have noticed that it was missing from the house. It's also something that would beg an explanation given the fact that Casey was just bumming around and had no apartment of her own - Cindy would have to ask why would she take it, wouldn't she?

I think she'd have noticed. I dont think that pic however is what the hamper/laundry bag looked like.

That reminds me, anyone remember this http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/?action=view&current=018-2.jpg Its a pic of what appears to be a tinkerbell type popup hamper in the rear of Casey's car.

[uberwe]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/012109caseydocuments/indexGallery.htm


This is the one I am looking at. I don't know if there are others.

Thanks January - much appreciated! :)

Uberwe

[joolz]

I posted the picture of "a" laundry bag/hamper to show there are different kinds. We don't know the exact type of cloth bag.

ETA picture: http://www.jcpenney.com/jcp/X6.aspx?DeptID=63712&CatID=63712&Grptyp=PRD&ItemId=14e7ace&siteID=210054369


Thanks River - that one just looked so cute and substantial that it's hard to imagine not noticing it being gone. I guess if it was more of a laundry bag with a drawstring top it wouldn't be as easy to notice. :smile:

[RiverWalk]

Thanks RiverWalk - I didn't even know that was there - I don't post very often so I'm sorta outta the loop. :)

Thanks again,
Uberwe

OOPS. Sorry about that. Here's our link thread on the front page of this forum. This link will take you to the last page

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=344981&page=14

[jusdafacts]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/012109caseydocuments/indexGallery.htm


This is the one I am looking at. I don't know if there are others.

This link here (http://www.wftv.com/news/18530178/detail.html) is easier to read - much larger docs in pdf format.

[ruth66]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elle
Your asking what person does that, Casey is awaiting trial for the murder of her daughter.
Casey wants to be seen as a victim. This type of accusation is exactly the kind she would throw out there to impress someone with just how much of a victim she is. (IMO)
I don't see where you are getting anything about LE in regards to this.

IMO, MOO

the fact that in todays doc dump LE asked that Lee's DNA be compared to CAYLEE's

http://www.wftv.com/news/18530418/detail.html

page 44 (last line)

"NOTE: PLEASE COMPARE DNA PROFILE OF LEE ANTHONY AGAINST DNA PROFILE OF CAYLEE ANTHONY"
__________________
Nobody asks for their life to change, but it does. What you do afterwards is what counts.

[jammies]

I have to go to bed soon-do we think this is it for today?


Probably, cr. It's already after 4 PM here on the east coast.

[summer4meplz]

I think, based on today's revelations....an extended family member on either side should step in and make burial arrangements for that poor baby.....

I also think casey should spare her family any further anguish and confess while the death penalty is not on the table (I don't know if that matters) and by family......I am thinking more about the great grandparents, uncles, aunts, and cousins of this murdered child

I was so sick about the duct tape on the mouth but that heart sticker just is beyond my wildest nightmare.....

poor poor baby.....

I agree with para about Kronk's story is just kinda hinky.......maybe he was having some kind of paranormal episode and is too embarrassed to say it.....

I am sure LE will figure it out...and I can't wait to see the test results of everything,....especially if Lee's DNA was a match.....

cindy must feel such shame and guilt by complaining to her coworkers about watching Caylee all the time and how she didn't like it....

anyway....what a bummer of a day reading all this crap.....such a contrast to yesterday's total happiness ...but I'm glad the truth is eeking out....

[read-in]

I wonder if casey know's and understands what all has been found.
surely mr baez, tells her everything...
she must know all the evidence will be linked back to her?
Just what kind of sick GAME is she playing?
jmo

[ishkabibble]

I think she'd have noticed. I dont think that pic however is what the hamper/laundry bag looked like.

That reminds me, anyone remember this http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/?action=view&current=018-2.jpg Its a pic of what appears to be a tinkerbell type popup hamper in the rear of Casey's car.

is this the actual car or just an example of that make and model? No license plates on it I think it is for information purposes only.

[Katprint]

I think she'd have noticed. I dont think that pic however is what the hamper/laundry bag looked like.

That reminds me, anyone remember this http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/?action=view&current=018-2.jpg (http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/?action=view&current=018-2.jpg) Its a pic of what appears to be a tinkerbell type popup hamper in the rear of Casey's car.
I thought those were pictures of a different, identical-model car. Not Casey's actual car. The only pictures I have seen of Casey's actual car were taken by the forensic team and were included in one of the document dumps, and they looked different. In particular, I don't recall seeing a tinkerbell popup hamper in the forensic team's photos of Casey's car trunk.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[eastside joe]

The reason Casey dumped Caylee's body so close to home was to ensure the remains would be found. Casey's primary motive for this killing was revenge. I believe the prosecution will state this at trial. Had the body never been found, Cindy would never be certain Caylee was dead. Casey needed the body to be found. Hence, the potential subtle clues along the way. For example "close to home" or "hope" whichever you believe. There are other potential clues as well, depending on what you want to believe.

It's difficult for most of us to fathom the consequence of spending the rest of our life in jail to simply gain revenge. I don't believe Casey was thinking of that consequence the moment she killed Caylee, only the satisfaction she would feel by getting the best of her mother.

She was not hiding the body!!! The location the body was found would be among the first places most of us would search if we were leading the investigation. 1) Her home. #2) Any wooded area near the home.

All of this IMO.

[read-in]

Summer;
ITA with you;
Family needs to come together and put this baby to rest,
furthermore, In my VHO, they need to stop all the stupid stories and rumors, Etc... come clean
I dont know how their souls can rest, Only they can end this madness....

[bluwaters]

Live stream
WESH news
Caylee news on now
http://www.wesh.com/video/14515757/index.html

[bluwaters]

Baez will have a presser in about 45 minutes...

[penguinlady]

Baez will have a presser in about 45 minutes...

WHY is it ALWAYS at 5 o'clock! That is when I pick up ds!

K

[KKKKKKatie]

Baez will have a presser in about 45 minutes...

Hmmmm...wonder why? Deny, deny, deny????

[Katprint]

I wanted to respond to those who question why we can not discuss the sexual abuse allegations. They are just hearsay (or should I say heresy?) so far. They do not come from Casey herself, they come from a friend of hers who says she said it. Plus there is no evidence of it being true. These are very serious allegations and although the Anthony family has brought much of their own problems on themselves, no one deserves to have their life & reputation ruined over this if it is not true. I believe if any real evidence is produced to support this CW will not have a problem with discussions on the issue.
IMO this is a distinction without a difference. By this logic, we should not be allowed to discuss whether Casey murdered Caylee, because Casey has not openly admitted to it. Even the discovery of Caylee's remains is not a fact that has been proven at trial yet. Similarly, many of the defamatory allegations against Casey - for example, that she used Amy's checkbook without Amy's permission or that she claimed to be employed when in fact she was not - merely come from friends/relatives of hers who said it.

It might be unfair to speculate on whether Casey was supporting herself through drug dealing or prostitution when NO witnesses have made any such claims. However, when witnesses have provided statements to police investigators knowing that it is a crime to provide false statements, then the subject matter in those statements (aka "evidence") should be fair game for discussion.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Roux]

I wonder if casey know's and understands what all has been found.
surely mr baez, tells her everything...
she must know all the evidence will be linked back to her?
Just what kind of sick GAME is she playing?
jmo

If Baez tells her, I sure hope she doesn't request a sedative. That would be so wrong. She needs to stew in her own juices.

[jammies]

Summer;
ITA with you;
Family needs to come together and put this baby to rest,
furthermore, In my VHO, they need to stop all the stupid stories and rumors, Etc... come clean
I dont know how their souls can rest, Only they can end this madness....


As a parent i would be worried about may daughter's soul. I wouldn't be able to sleep until she fessed up and asked for forgiveness. THAT should be one of their FIRST concerns. Not this game playing and pretending. They are all in harms way if they spend the rest of their lives in denial and lala land.

[cuddlyrunner]

I will try and stay up for the presser! Will someone post details of it when it's done? I won't be able to see it over here!

[Elle]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elle
Your asking what person does that, Casey is awaiting trial for the murder of her daughter.
Casey wants to be seen as a victim. This type of accusation is exactly the kind she would throw out there to impress someone with just how much of a victim she is. (IMO)
I don't see where you are getting anything about LE in regards to this.

IMO, MOO

the fact that in todays doc dump LE asked that Lee's DNA be compared to CAYLEE's

http://www.wftv.com/news/18530418/detail.html

page 44 (last line)

"NOTE: PLEASE COMPARE DNA PROFILE OF LEE ANTHONY AGAINST DNA PROFILE OF CAYLEE ANTHONY"
__________________
Nobody asks for their life to change, but it does. What you do afterwards is what counts.

Hello Ruth,
I read that.
I answered you on the other thread but then everyone moved. IF they are looking at him for possible paternity, does not mean they beieve there was any sort of molestation.
MOO

[Mandymax]

IMO they have known since the minute they smelled that car.

I think they certainly suspected it deep in their guts - they just weren't ready to face it.

I keep coming back to how hysterical Cindy sounded in that 911 call. A person can't fake that kind of anguish. It may have been at that moment that the reality of what she smelled began to sink in and what it likely meant, but I don't believe she knew as soon as the murder happened and began covering up immediately.

As always, my own opinion.

[ishkabibble]

The reason Casey dumped Caylee's body so close to home was to ensure the remains would be found. Casey's primary motive for this killing was revenge. I believe the prosecution will state this at trial. Had the body never been found, Cindy would never be certain Caylee was dead. Casey needed the body to be found. Hence, the potential subtle clues along the way. For example "close to home" or "hope" whichever you believe. There are other potential clues as well, depending on what you want to believe.

It's difficult for most of us to fathom the consequence of spending the rest of our life in jail to simply gain revenge. I don't believe Casey was thinking of that consequence the moment she killed Caylee, only the satisfaction she would feel by getting the best of her mother.

She was not hiding the body!!! The location the body was found would be among the first places most of us would search if we were leading the investigation. 1) Her home. #2) Any wooded area near the home.

All of this IMO.


I think she put the body where she thought it would be found quickly and that she wanted it to be found before she (Casey) returned from her work related "trip". She could then claim a kidnapping had occured and she had been threatened into silence or that the babysitter must have had a tragic accident with Caylee and panicked! Or perhaps Caylee would have remained unidentified, do you think Cindy or George would have called cops upon hearing of a dead 3yr old found 1/2 mile from their house? Especially if Casey was still stringing them along with her stories?

[read-in]

well one thing for sure......George and Cindy weren't telling the truth when they said the gas gauge had been broke for over a year.

OOOHHH your so right!!! forgot about that one:w00t:
lies lies lies lies and more lies........

[Roux]

As a parent i would be worried about may daughter's soul. I wouldn't be able to sleep until she fessed up and asked for forgiveness. THAT should be one of their FIRST concerns. Not this game playing and pretending. They are all in harms way if they spend the rest of their lives in denial and lala land.

jammies that is the truth if ever I heard it. The only way they can extricate themselves from this horror is to face the truth and ask forgiveness.

[101Spots]

Hmmmm...wonder why? Deny, deny, deny????

Deny, defer, deflect, delay.


Pick one. Or more than one.

[Mandymax]

I think she put the body where she thought it would be found quickly and that she wanted it to be found before she (Casey) returned from her work related "trip". She could then claim a kidnapping had occured and she had been threatened into silence or that the babysitter must have had a tragic accident with Caylee and panicked! Or perhaps Caylee would have remained unidentified, do you think Cindy or George would have called cops upon hearing of a dead 3yr old found 1/2 mile from their house? Especially if Casey was still stringing them along with her stories?

A big part of me wonders if it wasn't just another part of Casey's sick game. All along, knowing Caylee was dead and SO CLOSE to George and Cindy . . . and "they don't have a clue."

As always, my own opinion.

[WillowInFlight]

I wonder if casey know's and understands what all has been found.
surely mr baez, tells her everything...
she must know all the evidence will be linked back to her?
Just what kind of sick GAME is she playing?
jmo

I thinks she knows but I don't think she deals with reality so she probably figures none of this involves her.

[AMS]

Hmmmm...wonder why? Deny, deny, deny????

I think he'll tell stories about LE is not doing their job, blah, blah, blah. Try to change the focus from the heart sticker/duct tape. IMO, nothing he could say will take the focus off the horrific info we received today.

And at the end...he'll have no furthur questions.
IMO.

[jammies]

I think they certainly suspected it deep in their guts - they just weren't ready to face it.

I keep coming back to how hysterical Cindy sounded in that 911 call. A person can't fake that kind of anguish. It may have been at that moment that the reality of what she smelled began to sink in and what it likely meant, but I don't believe she knew as soon as the murder happened and began covering up immediately.

As always, my own opinion.

ITA No mother would ever believe their child capable of murdering their own baby. She was suspicious but don't think that thought had entered her mind yet. Not until AFTER the 911 call.

[~layla~]

I read somewhere that statistics are that parents that murder their children most often dump the body within 2 miles of home.

I think she dumped her there because the place was a place Casey had known/gone to in good times and bad as a kid. It was familiar.

[WillowInFlight]

I think they certainly suspected it deep in their guts - they just weren't ready to face it.

I keep coming back to how hysterical Cindy sounded in that 911 call. A person can't fake that kind of anguish. It may have been at that moment that the reality of what she smelled began to sink in and what it likely meant, but I don't believe she knew as soon as the murder happened and began covering up immediately.

As always, my own opinion.

ITA, she was pretty hysterical, though I want to know what prompted her to write her MySpace post, when was it July 3rd?

[read-in]

I think he'll tell stories about LE is not doing their job, blah, blah, blah. Try to change the focus from the heart sticker/duct tape. IMO, nothing he could say will take the focus off the horrific info we received today.

And at the end...he'll have no furthur questions.
IMO.

LIAR, LIAR, PANTS ON FIRE!!!!:laugh:

[Lavenia]

"The hair is microscopically similar to Caucasian head hair recovered from the Q15 hairbrush, however a more meaningful conclusion can not be reached as this is not suitable known hair sample."

So it doesn't matter which hairbrush Cindy gave LE?:cursing:

[bchand]

Baez will have a presser in about 45 minutes...



ugh - what happens if Jose has a presser and no one shows up?

I wish they would do that.

[kOOkie1]

I wonder why in the search warrant they were told to "observe and note any prescriptions on the property"? or would that be routine?


http://www.wftv.com/news/18530424/detail.html
(3163)

[eastside joe]

IMO this is a distinction without a difference. By this logic, we should not be allowed to discuss whether Casey murdered Caylee, because Casey has not openly admitted to it. Even the discovery of Caylee's remains is not a fact that has been proven at trial yet. Similarly, many of the defamatory allegations against Casey - for example, that she used Amy's checkbook without Amy's permission or that she claimed to be employed when in fact she was not - merely come from friends/relatives of hers who said it.

It might be unfair to speculate on whether Casey was supporting herself through drug dealing or prostitution when NO witnesses have made any such claims. However, when witnesses have provided statements to police investigators knowing that it is a crime to provide false statements, then the subject matter in those statements (aka "evidence") should be fair game for discussion.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Thanks for the post Katprint. You summed it up beautifully. MAKES NO SENSE!

[FeelinFroggy617]

I think, based on today's revelations....an extended family member on either side should step in and make burial arrangements for that poor baby.....

I also think casey should spare her family any further anguish and confess while the death penalty is not on the table (I don't know if that matters) and by family......I am thinking more about the great grandparents, uncles, aunts, and cousins of this murdered child

I was so sick about the duct tape on the mouth but that heart sticker just is beyond my wildest nightmare.....

poor poor baby.....

I agree with para about Kronk's story is just kinda hinky.......maybe he was having some kind of paranormal episode and is too embarrassed to say it.....

I am sure LE will figure it out...and I can't wait to see the test results of everything,....especially if Lee's DNA was a match.....

cindy must feel such shame and guilt by complaining to her coworkers about watching Caylee all the time and how she didn't like it....

anyway....what a bummer of a day reading all this crap.....such a contrast to yesterday's total happiness ...but I'm glad the truth is eeking out....



I've seen several posts about Cindy and conversations with co workers. I never heard anything about that. Is there link or anything thta I could read up on that? TIA!!!!

[bluwaters]

IMO this is a distinction without a difference. By this logic, we should not be allowed to discuss whether Casey murdered Caylee, because Casey has not openly admitted to it. Even the discovery of Caylee's remains is not a fact that has been proven at trial yet. Similarly, many of the defamatory allegations against Casey - for example, that she used Amy's checkbook without Amy's permission or that she claimed to be employed when in fact she was not - merely come from friends/relatives of hers who said it.

It might be unfair to speculate on whether Casey was supporting herself through drug dealing or prostitution when NO witnesses have made any such claims. However, when witnesses have provided statements to police investigators knowing that it is a crime to provide false statements, then the subject matter in those statements (aka "evidence") should be fair game for discussion.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

TY Katprint!
I find it fascinating that we can discuss the violent murder of a two year old, but talk of incest is taboo. To me, murder is far more offensive.

[jammies]

jammies that is the truth if ever I heard it. The only way they can extricate themselves from this horror is to face the truth and ask forgiveness.



Strange parents with an odd set of values for sure. Makes me so appreciate my own parents and how they raised us. Lying was probably the WORST sin in our house. Well, besides smarting off to our mother. Still can't get over how Casey talked to her parents and how they LET her!! I wouldn't be here now if I had uttered anything as crass and disrepectful.
Did they EVER punish her growing up? She just didn't wake up one morning and turn evil. This was 22 years in the making.

[Lavenia]

A hair found on the shovel is tested NOT to be Casey's or Caylee's.

[bchand]

"The hair is microscopically similar to Caucasian head hair recovered from the Q15 hairbrush, however a more meaningful conclusion can not be reached as this is not suitable known hair sample."

So it doesn't matter which hairbrush Cindy gave LE?:cursing:


Apparently it did matter !!

[RiverWalk]

A hair found on the shovel is tested NOT to be Casey's or Caylee's.

Yes. It belonged the the neighbor.

[bchand]

I've seen several posts about Cindy and conversations with co workers. I never heard anything about that. Is there link or anything thta I could read up on that? TIA!!!!

Here it is Froggy


http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530509.pdf

[CC I See]

I read somewhere that statistics are that parents that murder their children most often dump the body within 2 miles of home.

I think she dumped her there because the place was a place Casey had known/gone to in good times and bad as a kid. It was familiar.

I don't think she felt one way or the other about the location where she dumped Caylee.... she just wanted to be rid of her and that location was close.

[jusdafacts]

I've seen several posts about Cindy and conversations with co workers. I never heard anything about that. Is there link or anything thta I could read up on that? TIA!!!!

Supplemental County Investigation Report
(http://www.wftv.com/news/18530380/detail.html)

[FeelinFroggy617]

Here it is Froggy


http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530509.pdf



Thanks neighbor!!!! I have some reading to do!!!! :smile:

[Lavenia]

Yes. It belonged the the neighbor.

I know.... Just reporting.

[Mimi428]

IMO this is a distinction without a difference. By this logic, we should not be allowed to discuss whether Casey murdered Caylee, because Casey has not openly admitted to it. Even the discovery of Caylee's remains is not a fact that has been proven at trial yet. Similarly, many of the defamatory allegations against Casey - for example, that she used Amy's checkbook without Amy's permission or that she claimed to be employed when in fact she was not - merely come from friends/relatives of hers who said it.

It might be unfair to speculate on whether Casey was supporting herself through drug dealing or prostitution when NO witnesses have made any such claims. However, when witnesses have provided statements to police investigators knowing that it is a crime to provide false statements, then the subject matter in those statements (aka "evidence") should be fair game for discussion.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I think you make valid points, but I do understand where the moderator is coming from when it comes to discussing sexual subjects. The Anna Nicole board, more than one time, went far beyond vulgar with people who wanted to speculate & discuss whether or not her daughter was the product of incest. Every single CTV board I have ever perused has had no end of problems as soon as the discussion goes into that direction. It will go straight to h#ll in a handbasket once it starts with "what if" & "I think it could have been".

Another thing is, it invariably attracts the WORSTof the worst people, the kind who get a sexual charge out of discussion of that sort. The OC gang rape case was a perfect example of the board attracting disgusting creeps who wanted to speculate on every kind of minute detail - and of course it was all in the guise of "but that's what the case is about". <sarcasm intended>

IF we find out about the DNA & it turns out to be as bad as we think it might be, I think CW will allow mature discussion. IF, as some think, there are bad photos or activities - & that is revealed by credible sources, I think mature discussion of that will be OK, too.

And IF the discussion starts on any of those sorts of subjects, be prepared for the creeps to arrive & watch how they will bait one or several of our posters into a discussion that will get more & more vulgar. You know we have plenty of folks here who just cannot let something go - cannot hold back, cannot refrain from taking bait. And the pervs are counting on them to be exactly that way.

JMO

[ishkabibble]

OOOHHH your so right!!! forgot about that one:w00t:
lies lies lies lies and more lies........

they may gave gotten that idea from Casey in an effort to explain her gas thefts, so I MIGHT give them a pass on that. Though Lee said George was a stickler about car maintenance... it appears Casey BSed him about getting oil changes and such. He admited giving her $ to get them done, but doubted she did.

[bchand]

So the owner of the property where the body was found is preventing the defense from accessing the crime scene?

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18531954.pdf

Motion to Inspect Crime Scene


Geez I thought even Greta has been back there.

[summer4meplz]

I've seen several posts about Cindy and conversations with co workers. I never heard anything about that. Is there link or anything thta I could read up on that? TIA!!!!



http://www.wftv.com/news/18530380/detail.html

:biggrin:

[read-in]

A hair found on the shovel is tested NOT to be Casey's or Caylee's.

Hey Lavenia;
I thought in the doc's they took ,(is it Brian Bruner ?) hair to
Elimanate? ( sorry cant spell ) I thought i read that... i could be very wrong..

[Pooh]

Gosh, I hope Stella Rose stopped by to read the docs. She was looking for them yesterday.

I wonder if during the December searches of the Anthony home, if they were able to find the Cloroform. I noticed that they mentioned a metal can and a FedEx tracking number. I wonder if that was the Chloroform?

[eastside joe]

There is proof of a death and/or murder. There is no proof that Casey even made these allegations or was actually abused.

Sure there is bratlings. Both Tony and Jesse stated that Casey mentioned it. Go back and read their statements from long ago. IMO

[jammies]

ugh - what happens if Jose has a presser and no one shows up?

I wish they would do that.



You mean like if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear...... :biggrin:

[jammies]

Gosh, I hope Stella Rose stopped by to read the docs. She was looking for them yesterday.

I wonder if during the December searches of the Anthony home, if they were able to find the Cloroform. I noticed that they mentioned a metal can and a FedEx tracking number. I wonder if that was the Chloroform?


Never thought of that, pooh. Wondered what that was all about.

[Loves2Read]

I've been reading through the released docs and the threads. Someone posted a picture of what they thought was the same kind of hamper that was found with the remains and the plastic bag, and if that is correct, there is no way Cindy wouldn't have noticed that it was missing from the house. It's also something that would beg an explanation given the fact that Casey was just bumming around and had no apartment of her own - Cindy would have to ask why would she take it, wouldn't she?

Cindy, IMO, has learned not to question Casey too closely. Look at how she denied Casey was pregnant to her coworkers. Either she knew but was a good enough actress to fool her fellow workers, or she totally buys what ever Casey is selling with out question. If its the later, she might not believe what ever Casey is telling her, but she knows nothing good comes from questioning her daughter. I have to believe she knew, but is a good actress.

[CANDYKISSES]

You mean like if a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear...... :biggrin:

That's what I'm tawkin bout jammies. :thumbsup:

Oh what a partay for one! JMO

[steffaroob4]

So the owner of the property where the body was found is preventing the defense from accessing the crime scene?

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18531954.pdf

Motion to Inspect Crime Scene


Geez I thought even Greta has been back there.

just bizarre, considering the statements that he wasn't interested in inspecting it when LE called him before they released the scene.

[eastside joe]

I think you make valid points, but I do understand where the moderator is coming from when it comes to discussing sexual subjects. The Anna Nicole board, more than one time, went far beyond vulgar with people who wanted to speculate & discuss whether or not her daughter was the product of incest. Every single CTV board I have ever perused has had no end of problems as soon as the discussion goes into that direction. It will go straight to h#ll in a handbasket once it starts with "what if" & "I think it could have been".

Another thing is, it invariably attracts the WORSTof the worst people, the kind who get a sexual charge out of discussion of that sort. The OC gang rape case was a perfect example of the board attracting disgusting creeps who wanted to speculate on every kind of minute detail - and of course it was all in the guise of "but that's what the case is about". <sarcasm intended>

IF we find out about the DNA & it turns out to be as bad as we think it might be, I think CW will allow mature discussion. IF, as some think, there are bad photos or activities - & that is revealed by credible sources, I think mature discussion of that will be OK, too.

And IF the discussion starts on any of those sorts of subjects, be prepared for the creeps to arrive & watch how they will bait one or several of our posters into a discussion that will get more & more vulgar. You know we have plenty of folks here who just cannot let something go - cannot hold back, cannot refrain from taking bait. And the pervs are counting on them to be exactly that way.

JMO

IIRC, some posters started to tell their personal stories which CW immediately put a stop to and additionally warned posters as to the dangers of such posts.

[Lavenia]

Hey Lavenia;
I thought in the doc's they took ,(is it Brian Bruner ?) hair to
Elimanate? ( sorry cant spell ) I thought i read that... i could be very wrong..

Be right back. I'll check. (I skimmed.)

ETA: Unless there is further testing I haven't seen yet, this was just an exclusionary test. It excluded Casey and Caylee but did not name the owner.

[WillowInFlight]

That's what I'm tawkin bout jammies. :thumbsup:

Oh what a partay for one! JMO

I think Baez just likes to hear himself talk.

[CANDYKISSES]

Cindy, IMO, has learned not to question Casey too closely. Look at how she denied Casey was pregnant to her coworkers. Either she knew but was a good enough actress to fool her fellow workers, or she totally buys what ever Casey is selling with out question. If its the later, she might not believe what ever Casey is telling her, but she knows nothing good comes from questioning her daughter. I have to believe she knew, but is a good actress.


It seems her coworkers were very much aware of her seemingly psychotic behavior too IMO. :scared:

Just the idea she could have been a nurse in a setting where medications are dispensed are enough to make me ill. They seemed to recognize she didn't live in the real world from their interviews.

Can anyone here imagine your DIRECTOR two levels up having to TELL YOU HOW TO HANDLE your PERSONAL PROBLEMS....or better yet that you needed to take action at home?????? :w00t:

JMO

[uberwe]

OOPS. Sorry about that. Here's our link thread on the front page of this forum. This link will take you to the last page

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=344981&page=14

S'okay River :)

Thanks for the link. I was just able to read some of the docs - lots of interesting stuff...

Uberwe

[Lavenia]

IIRC, some posters started to tell their personal stories which CW immediately put a stop to and additionally warned posters as to the dangers of such posts.

That's right Joe. This kind of thing gets out of hand pretty fast, IMO.

[Neffy]

So the owner of the property where the body was found is preventing the defense from accessing the crime scene?

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18531954.pdf

Motion to Inspect Crime Scene


Geez I thought even Greta has been back there.

:seeya:

Ah Good reason! I saw that and thought it odd.

[WillowInFlight]

It seems her coworkers were very much aware of her seemingly psychotic behavior too IMO. :scared:

Just the idea she could have been a nurse in a setting where medications are dispensed are enough to make me ill. They seemed to recognize she didn't live in the real world from their interviews.

Can anyone here imagine your DIRECTOR two levels up having to TELL YOU HOW TO HANDLE your PERSONAL PROBLEMS....or better yet that you needed to take action at home?????? :w00t:

JMO

I can't even imagine telling my co-workers something that private. She didn't need to tell them how Casey talks to George, or that Casey and George were having battles over money.

[Cury-us Coyote]

WATCH LIVE: Casey Anthony's Attorney Holding Press Conference 5PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18532885/index.html

[robmo]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18530380/detail.html

:biggrin:

I can't believe that CA could live in such denial-even her co-workers noticing KC was pregnant...

She likes to believe her family is perfect-she told her co-workers that KC yelled at GA as much as she did and that they were always fussing...

She went back to work after SMELL in car...

She even told co-workers smelled like dead body...

They knew something bad and made her go home...

Not wanting to know the truth and actually having it knock you right between the eyes are two different things.

Based on what I've seen of CA being a fool is something I can't believe she would like for anyone to know she...But maybe it is better than mother of grandchil's killer.

MOO

[nothingnew]

There is proof of a death and/or murder. There is no proof that Casey even made these allegations or was actually abused.

IIRC both Anthony Lazarro AND Jesse Grund gave statements to LE about caseys' allegations. As far as I know there would be no reason for these two gentlemen to conspire against casey, they weren't friends. Also I am pretty sure they BOTH took the lie detector exam. So, yeah, I don't understand either why discussions that are relevant and included in the official documents cannot be discussed. Incest is a pretty disgusting topic but if it's relevant, it's relevant. I'm not understanding the "sensitivity" issue on this one at all (Bratlings-I know you are giving us facts of the rules etc-I am not accusing you of being sensitive about this).

[Katprint]

So the owner of the property where the body was found is preventing the defense from accessing the crime scene?

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18531954.pdf

Motion to Inspect Crime Scene

Geez I thought even Greta has been back there.
That type of motion shouldn't even be newsworthy. Property owners frequently prefer not to grant permission for strangers to enter their property where crimes have occurred. Here in California, attorneys can issue their own subpoenas forcing property owners to allow inspections of their property, unless destructive or otherwise harmful testing will be occurring. Then if the property owner does not comply, the attorney who issued the subpoena goes in for a court order forcing compliance under pain of stiff fines/imprisonment for contempt. Very routine, ought to be a slam dunk unless the motion was written poorly.

Perhaps the reason they didn't want to trespass on the property (like Greta? Or maybe she paid a "location" fee like TV/movie companies do when they use private property as a location to broadcast from) was to avoid tainting their own defense evidence with any kind of illegality. I respect that.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Ladyhawk]

I think she'd have noticed. I dont think that pic however is what the hamper/laundry bag looked like.

That reminds me, anyone remember this http://s138.photobucket.com/albums/q259/M2KFL/CAYLEE%20ANTHONY%20CASE/?action=view&current=018-2.jpg Its a pic of what appears to be a tinkerbell type popup hamper in the rear of Casey's car.

Sorry Funky, those pictures are not of Casey's car....they are pics of a car like hers. If you go through the pics, you can see by the captions that this is not hers.

[funkyflower]

is this the actual car or just an example of that make and model? No license plates on it I think it is for information purposes only.

It is a faux car, apparently there's a local guy who has taken lots of pics and has posted these for example purposes. Sorry if there was any confusion.

[bluwaters]

WATCH LIVE: Casey Anthony's Attorney Holding Press Conference 5PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18532885/index.html

The prosecution is no doubt seething. Here goes Baez again.
Lenny thinks he's a media w****? He's an amateur compared to Baez.

Thanks Cury for the link!

[read-in]

Be right back. I'll check. (I skimmed.)

ETA: Unless there is further testing I haven't seen yet, this was just an exclusionary test. It excluded Casey and Caylee but did not name the owner.

Im sorry, did not mean for you to search even more...
Brian Bruner was neighor;
took his hair, cause of the shovel;
and wanted to be able to rule him out?? is that right??
im probably mixed up...i thought that was in a doc, but well you know me<<,:tongueside: i tend to get confusededed
tyvm

[aubrey04]

Are there any PDFs of the interviews with Cindy's coworkers? I want to read those accounts.. I had to go to the doctor & get a script, so I missed a few hrs unfortunately.

I turned on the press conference to watch Jose try to redeem his client.. good luck on that.

ETA - I see Nikki Pierce of WBDO adjusting the microphones.

[TisMeAgain]

watch live: Casey anthony's attorney holding press conference 5pm
http://www.wftv.com/video/18532885/index.html

thank you, cury!

[ishkabibble]

It seems her coworkers were very much aware of her seemingly psychotic behavior too IMO. :scared:

Just the idea she could have been a nurse in a setting where medications are dispensed are enough to make me ill. They seemed to recognize she didn't live in the real world from their interviews.

Can anyone here imagine your DIRECTOR two levels up having to TELL YOU HOW TO HANDLE your PERSONAL PROBLEMS....or better yet that you needed to take action at home?????? :w00t:

JMO

Cindy did not want to know the truth, she wanted Casey to explain things, even if it meant continuing on with the nanny has the baby story. Only when she overheard Casey confide/confess to Lee that she didn't know where Caylee was did she panic. But as long as Casey would have continued the "script" Cindy would have gone along.. better to believe a lie and not have to face the truth.

[Pruddennce]

Be right back. I'll check. (I skimmed.)

ETA: Unless there is further testing I haven't seen yet, this was just an exclusionary test. It excluded Casey and Caylee but did not name the owner.

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf

page 16 - Brian Burner

handwritten 3188.

best regards,
Pru

[Gilly]

WATCH LIVE: Casey Anthony's Attorney Holding Press Conference 5PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18532885/index.html

Thanks so much.

[Pruddennce]

Are there any PDFs of the interviews with Cindy's coworkers? I want to read those accounts.. I had to go to the doctor & get a script, so I missed a few hrs unfortunately.

I turned on the press conference to watch Jose try to redeem his client.. good luck on that.

ETA - I see Nikki Pierce of WBDO adjusting the microphones.

page 5 handwritten 3066

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530509.pdf

best regards,
Pru

[jusdafacts]

Are there any PDFs of the interviews with Cindy's coworkers? I want to read those accounts.. I had to go to the doctor & get a script, so I missed a few hrs unfortunately.

I turned on the press conference to watch Jose try to redeem his client.. good luck on that.

ETA - I see Nikki Pierce of WBDO adjusting the microphones.


Supplemental County Investigation Report
(http://www.wftv.com/news/18530380/detail.html)

[Mimi428]

I think that is exactly what CW was avoiding! Well said Mimi!

TY. TYVM.

Every board eventually includes sniping & fussing over one thing or another - but for downright filth, it seems the cases that have any sexual component at all (real or imagined) get the worst of it. I don't want the board to have to shut down several times a day & stay closed on nights & weekends, because the moderator is buried in trying to keep the place swept clean & the pervs banned (for the umpteenth time).

JMO

[Pooh]

What could Baez even have to say?? He's such a dolt. imo

[bluwaters]

Red Flag!
He gave a clue!
I said that he would talk about 3 things, but didn't say what those things are...

[Cury-us Coyote]

Baez Files Motion To Inspect Scene
Baez said he's tried several times to get in touch with the landowner, who lives out of state, to get permission to check the area himself.

But he said all of his requests have been ignored.

Baez now wants a judge to give him permission to go on the land without the consent of the owner.

There is no word on when the judge could rule on the motion.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/21/documents_reveal_much_about_casey_anthony.html

[Pruddennce]

What could Baez even have to say?? He's such a dolt. imo


Pooh, my sentiments exactly. we are going to blah blah blah...and blah....

maybe announce her new plea. "guilty of an accident." or "we will prove her STONE COLD INNOCENT" <---heard that one before.

"we plan to request a COV" <------SURPRISE!



IMO

best regards,
Pru

[aubrey04]

Thanks jusdafacts and Pru :seeya:

What could Baez even have to say?? He's such a dolt. imo

The reporter just said Baez wants to discuss three things, but Baez didn't tell them what those three things were. Guess he's trying to build some sort of drama around his press conference.

:rolleyes:

[5boxersmom]

I figure COV is one of them.

Maybe releasing Caylee's remains is another?

Probably going to cry about not getting in to the Crime Scene and blame LE.

jmo

[Pruddennce]

Thanks jusdafacts and Pru :seeya:



The reporter just said Baez wants to discuss three things, but Baez didn't tell them what those three things were. Guess he's trying to build some sort of drama around his press conference.

:rolleyes:

you are welcome aubrey. I think I guessed two things.

IMO

:)

best regards,
Pru

[Jeepers]

If Baez tells her, I sure hope she doesn't request a sedative. That would be so wrong. She needs to stew in her own juices.

Well, before she got that sedative if I was Mr Baez, I would be asking
"WTH was the Heart Sticker For" Then I would give her the sedative in a bad way!:cursing:

[RiverWalk]

HLN is talking about the doc dump now.

[Pooh]

Thanks jusdafacts and Pru :seeya:



The reporter just said Baez wants to discuss three things, but Baez didn't tell them what those three things were. Guess he's trying to build some sort of drama around his press conference.

:rolleyes:

Oh -- I missed that. Maybe he'll end the press conference in his usual way..."I have no further questions." LOL I'll never forget that as long as I live. I was ROLLING on the floor laughing! Smooth move Exlax!

[Lavenia]

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0121/18530363.pdf

page 16 - Brian Burner

handwritten 3188.

best regards,
Pru

Thanks Pruddence! I just haven't seen where they actually tested against his DNA though, but for me the issue is moot as long as Casey and Caylee are excluded.

[tmw]

Did I miss the Baez presser?? (I think the camera view I have is live)

[jakee]

Baez Files Motion To Inspect Scene
Baez said he's tried several times to get in touch with the landowner, who lives out of state, to get permission to check the area himself.

But he said all of his requests have been ignored.

Baez now wants a judge to give him permission to go on the land without the consent of the owner.

There is no word on when the judge could rule on the motion.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/21/documents_reveal_much_about_casey_anthony.html

I am confused. I thought after LE was done with the scene they said Baez could go do what he needed. Baez said they didn't want to check it out anymore because it was a mess...or some such words. IIRC

[Pruddennce]

Oh -- I missed that. Maybe he'll end the press conference in his usual way..."I have no further questions." LOL I'll never forget that as long as I live. I was ROLLING on the floor laughing! Smooth move Exlax!

:eek:

best regards,
Pru

[irishkitty24]

I figure COV is one of them.

Maybe releasing Caylee's remains is another?

Probably going to cry about not getting in to the Crime Scene and blame LE.

jmo

He probably wants to complain that the doc dump was a leak. Even though he pressed for the info.

[Pooh]

maybe they found ZFG :closedeyes:

Oh Lord - in his DREAMS!

[Cury-us Coyote]

First on FOX: Baez under investigation

The first investigation is about inappropriate advertising and the other about Baez and his dealings with press corps media, the company owned by Todd Black. Both were filed as sworn complaints by someone.
...
The Florida Bar did say that a grievance committee met last week on the inappropriate advertising complaint and they should be wrapped up with in a week or two.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8290167&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[happy2bme]

I wonder if he actually realizes just how bad it's looking for his "client".:blink:

[RiverWalk]

Did I miss the Baez presser?? (I think the camera view I have is live)

Not yet. We're all here waiting. lol

[ishkabibble]

I figure COV is one of them.

Maybe releasing Caylee's remains is another?

Probably going to cry about not getting in to the Crime Scene and blame LE.

jmo

well didn't LE call him and let him know they were finished with the crime scene? wasn't Henry Lee's response something about why bother it doesn't look like it used to so it's of no use to us?

[Neffy]

Baez Files Motion To Inspect Scene
Baez said he's tried several times to get in touch with the landowner, who lives out of state, to get permission to check the area himself.

But he said all of his requests have been ignored.

Baez now wants a judge to give him permission to go on the land without the consent of the owner.

There is no word on when the judge could rule on the motion.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/21/documents_reveal_much_about_casey_anthony.html


:seeya:
Thank you Cury! Now that's jogging my memory a bit.

^5 for the live presser link :)

[jammies]

I figure COV is one of them.

Maybe releasing Caylee's remains is another?

Probably going to cry about not getting in to the Crime Scene and blame LE.

jmo


For sure he's gonna WHINE about something. the guy drives me nuts with his incessant WHINE WHINE WHINE

[tmw]

ok now LIVE

[RiverWalk]

Live on HLN now with Baez.

[jammies]

On Headline NEws NOW.

[Pruddennce]

oh he has another appt...cant answer questions! *so busy*

ok, its all about HIM! "anthony-itis"

best regards,
Pru

ETA: he's talking about it not bothering him, and has to have a press conference about himself?

hmmmm....somebody's bothered

[WillowInFlight]

AWWW poor Baez, crying that he has been personally attacked.

[happy2bme]

Oh, Good Grief...BAEZ....:mad:

[Pooh]

He doesn't care that people think he's an incompetent azz. Paraphasing.....

[aubrey04]

He's talking about himself. What in the world? You have got to be kidding me!

[playnice]

Poor baez. He is a victim too.:thumbdown:

[kOOkie1]

Ohh Baez...guess he didnt bring his Violin:bored:

[happy2bme]

HMMM...I can tell you how you will be remembered.....

[jammies]

Live on HLN now with Baez.


He's already whining. oh geez, Jose, GROW THE HECK UP! He and Casey were meant for eachother. waaa waaaa, victim, poor meeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Lavenia]

TY. TYVM.

Every board eventually includes sniping & fussing over one thing or another - but for downright filth, it seems the cases that have any sexual component at all (real or imagined) get the worst of it. I don't want the board to have to shut down several times a day & stay closed on nights & weekends, because the moderator is buried in trying to keep the place swept clean & the pervs banned (for the umpteenth time).

JMO

Calm down, Elvis! :wink:

I remember how wound up some people on the board got over this subject. I even got a questionable PM from someone about the subject that seems to have gotten too far "into"it.

[Pruddennce]

IT IS ALL ABOUT ME ME ME!

what a disgrace.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[aubrey04]

A 2 year old is dead and we just found out that a heart sticker was placed over her mouth.. and he's talking about himself? Who cares about whether he's been attacked. :shrug: sheesh.

[Pooh]

He's talking about himself. What in the world? You have got to be kidding me!

New defense tactic. LOL!

[tmw]

What "tabloid" show has spoken today??
None of the shows have been on at this time, right?

[irishkitty24]

Everrybody is a victim but Caylee. OMG!!!!!!

[AMS]

Jose - since this began he has been attacked. It does not bother him unoess it affects people close to him like his family. It does not bother him because he took an oath andhis job is a defense lawyer.

He wants to be remembered as someone who fought for his client thru the highs and the lows...not as someone who is the subject of constant insinuations and unsubstantiated rumors.

[Nova]

Poor Baez .... "Oh Poor Me", he sounds like Casey.
If he's so sick of the tabloid media ... then ALL he has to do is SHUT UP and do his job.

[bluwaters]

Boo Hoo!
He's a victim now too.
And the press is to blame!!!
:ohmy:

[Pooh]

HA! He's worried about the bar assoc investigation.

[5boxersmom]

Wow what a waste a huge waste.

jmo

[enigma™]

With all the information released today, this is all he has? Diriculous!

[jammies]

Ohh Baez...guess he didnt bring his Violin:bored:


He sounds like he's going to cry! LOL Poke your eye, Jose...it works!

[RiverWalk]

He's already whining. oh geez, Jose, GROW THE HECK UP! He and Casey were meant for eachother. waaa waaaa, victim, poor meeeeeeeeeeeeee

Can we ban this guy to a forever timeout somewhere? I hate whining.

[Pruddennce]

Poor Baez .... "Oh Poor Me", he sounds like Casey.
If he's so sick of the tabloid media ... then ALL he has to do is SHUT UP and do his job.
he states: "FALSE RUMOUR'.

*rolling eyes*......his grammar is atrocious.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[AMS]

Jose stating for the record - he has absolutley no book deals or entertainment deals or any contingency fees. Any implications of that is simply a false rumor.

He does not feel he has to justify this but he was advised to and he follows the advice.

He has nothing to hide. He has conducted himself in the most professional manor that he possibly can.

[irishkitty24]

Just following the a's protocol of deflection.

[tmw]

Wonder what was that trip to New York for "Casey's Business"??

[WillowInFlight]

He seems to be protesting too much.

[jammies]

With all the information released today, this is all he has? Diriculous!


It's all about him. Not a word about a tiny dead little girl.

[Lavenia]

I was just at the deli this morning if he wants some cheese to go with that Whine.

I know where he can get some Velveeta.

[Pooh]

Wow what a waste a huge waste.

jmo

No kidding. He should have to pay for the airtime he's just wasted.

OH! Now he's on a "hispanic" soap box. GMAB!

[irishkitty24]

No he didn't .......now he is bringing race into this???!!!

[bluwaters]

Racism!
He's being picked on because he's Hispanic!
GMAB

[Pruddennce]

RACE CARD. <-----Baez says he is the first HISPANIC handling a case of this magnitude.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[True2Blues]

He doesn't care that people think he's an incompetent azz. Paraphasing.....

Good, because the way he acts, a lot of people are going to think it.

He just said he'd conducted himself in the most professional manner her could. Did I hear that right?

If that's the best he can do, hands all over his client, questions of his ethics being investigated by the bar is the best he can do?

Oh and now it's the Race card. He's the first Hispanic lawyer to have a case of this magnitude? Is that true?

[Neffy]

Is he playing the race card? WTH!

[5boxersmom]

Is he playing the race card?

jmo

[AMS]

He is the first hispanic lawyer to have a case of this magnitude...he would not embarass those around him.

[playnice]

Oh jesus. Blaming his race. goof greif. has anyone ever said anything because he is hispanic?

[AMS]

Is he playing the race card?

jmo

You bet. IMO

[aubrey04]

LOL Baez just said ---"I want to try this case in a courtroom, not on the courthouse steps"..

Elliot Weinstein, Neil Entwistle's lawyer, said the exact same thing.. (while giving an interview to a newspaper and posing for pictures for the interview)..

:rolleyes:

[kOOkie1]

I know where he can get some Velveeta.

LOL Lavenia!! ha:biggrin:

[crymeariver2006]

He's talking about himself. What in the world? You have got to be kidding me!


I know! It's all about HIM!

He's worse than Casey. Or he's at least been taking lessons from her.

[Pooh]

Racism!
He's being picked on because he's Hispanic!
GMAB

Maybe he got that advice from Geraldo.....

[Nova]

OMG ... now he's playing "ethnicity card", the first Puerto Rican to handle a case of this magnitude.
WTH has his ethnicity got to do with anything!!!!!! What a major AZZZZZZZ!!!!!

[Lavenia]

Oh jesus. Blaming his race. goof greif. has anyone ever said anything because he is hispanic?

Gosh, I never saw him as Hispanic. Just stupid.

[tmw]

With all the information released today, this is all he has? Diriculous!


Redirect attention for tonights shows.Hoping all will spend a good chunk of time talking about this dumb presser IMO

[Pruddennce]

OMG!

justice for WHOEVER??????? <---------OMG

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[TisMeAgain]

Did I miss the Baez presser?? (I think the camera view I have is live)

Listening to Baez now... Is he trying to say the reason they are investigating him because he's hispanic? YUP, BFF with Geraldo.

[jusdafacts]

Wrong Baez, the most burning question is not COV -

When will Caylee Marie have her proper funeral?!?!

[crymeariver2006]

Now he's cherry picking his reporters to ask questions.

Good Lord!

[funkyflower]

Wow what a waste a huge waste.

jmo

I think Jose really needs to lessen his time with Casey, he sounds JUST like her now.

[jusdafacts]

He sounds familiar .... ME, ME, ME, ME

[Cury-us Coyote]

Not yet. We're all here waiting. lol

Are ya'll translating?

[TisMeAgain]

Gosh, I never saw him as Hispanic. Just stupid.

me either! Goodness! Then he takes questions in spanish.

[aubrey04]

Is he playing the race card? WTH!

Yup. and the first reporter who he took a question from - asked it in Spanish.. and he answered in spanish..

another reporter just said, "uh, why didn't you say "no"? lol

[Jeepers]

It seems her coworkers were very much aware of her seemingly psychotic behavior too IMO. :scared:

Just the idea she could have been a nurse in a setting where medications are dispensed are enough to make me ill. They seemed to recognize she didn't live in the real world from their interviews.

Can anyone here imagine your DIRECTOR two levels up having to TELL YOU HOW TO HANDLE your PERSONAL PROBLEMS....or better yet that you needed to take action at home?????? :w00t:

JMO

That is bad. when your co-workers are seeing in real life what we are just preceiving. I bet they had many water cooler conversations behind Cindy's back. I would hate for my boss and my bosses boss to know anything personal about me in a bad way. They saw through Casey's bizzarrooo stories and tried to get Cindy to call LE. She just would not listen to them. I bet they bout passed out when Cindy came back to work talking about the car. Between Cindy's co-workers and Casey's friends I bet everyone is just sitting back saying WoW just WoW.
I would be afraid to be around someone like that.
Normal behavior would have been to call LE from the tow yard. If I had'nt called earlier before I knew the car was at the tow yard.

[happy2bme]

Someone translate for me???

[crymeariver2006]

Does this guy realize how many hispanic lawyers there are in Florida? :w00t:


But, but...according to him they don't handle cases of "this magnitude".

What a pompous a$$!!!

[Lavenia]

Are ya'll translating?

No comprende Espanol.

[Neffy]

Gosh, I never saw him as Hispanic. Just stupid.

:w00t:

Title is holding! Good Grief!

[RiverWalk]

Are ya'll translating?

HLN went back to the THs.

[TisMeAgain]

I think Jose really needs to lessen his time with Casey, he sounds JUST like her now.

No kidding!

[kOOkie1]

He knows he is "Public Enemy #2"...wowww ohhh k

[Pruddennce]

he said he wasnt going to be taking questions. then couldnt resist.

what a bizarre attorney.....is that the appropriate term, an attorney?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[jammies]

Ahhh, the race excuse. Well, we know THAT seems to work.


Did he cover 3 things?

[aubrey04]

haha He just said that he has "one more small interview with Univision and then I have to go".. I guess he's shunning the American press. Good grief! What a jerk!

[happy2bme]

I think he knows he is way in over his head with this one.

[3Monkeys]

Has there ever been another scenario in a high-profile case where a lawyer has had to declare that he hasn't had a relationship with his client?

My goodness.

[kitty1182]

Gosh, I never saw him as Hispanic. Just stupid.

LOL, same here.

[Pooh]

That's it??!! All about Baez??!! What about Caylee you POS?!

[5boxersmom]

Excuse me but I have to go. I have an interview with Univision.:lol:

Had to get that in there.

What was so important about the presser? Someone help me out.

jmo

[Neffy]

Are ya'll translating?


Was he talking about us?

[CelticDawn]

WATCH LIVE: Casey Anthony's Attorney Holding Press Conference 5PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18532885/index.htmlbarfbarfbarf

hhe didnt SAY anything...!!! May as well not HAD a PC...!!! <insert expletaves here>

[Loves2Read]

Watching that presser a waste..... What a Waste!!!!!

[Nova]

OH SORRY FOLKS ... no more questions ....
He has ANOTHER INTERVIEW with UNIVISION.
Casey and Baez = 2 peas in a pod ... it's ALL ABOUT ME!!!!!
DISGUSTING!!!!!

[playnice]

Ahhh, the race excuse. Well, we know THAT seems to work.


Did he cover 3 things?

Me. Myself. I. Yep. Thats 3.:thumbup:

[crymeariver2006]

Ahhh, the race excuse. Well, we know THAT seems to work.


Did he cover 3 things?

Why yes! His three things, in his own words were:

"Me"
"Myself", and
"I"

:wink:

[True2Blues]

He is the first hispanic lawyer to have a case of this magnitude...he would not embarass those around him.

I think he needs to prove that claim. He also needs to learn to speak like a person with at least a high school education. For an attorney he's really badly spoken.

[TisMeAgain]

Maybe he got that advice from Geraldo.....

YUP! That's the first thing that came to my mind!

[True2Blues]

Why yes! His three things, in his own words were:

"Me"
"Myself", and
"I"

:wink:

No wonder he and Casey get on so well. They both think it's all about them.

[Pruddennce]

That is bad. when your co-workers are seeing in real life what we are just preceiving. I bet they had many water cooler conversations behind Cindy's back. I would hate for my boss and my bosses boss to know anything personal about me in a bad way. They saw through Casey's bizzarrooo stories and tried to get Cindy to call LE. She just would not listen to them. I bet they bout passed out when Cindy came back to work talking about the car. Between Cindy's co-workers and Casey's friends I bet everyone is just sitting back saying WoW just WoW.
I would be afraid to be around someone like that.
Normal behavior would have been to call LE from the tow yard. If I had'nt called earlier before I knew the car was at the tow yard.

I think they couldnt believe she was sitting in work * work to do *......while she comments on a 'death smell' in her car on the heels of telling co-workers prior to that event that she had not been in contact with Caylee for an entire month.

it cannot be said that Cindy A wasnt given stellar advice: GO HOME
CALL POLICE

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Lavenia]

Playnice and cryme; GMTA! :thumbsup:

[Postergeist]

He knows he is "Public Enemy #2"...wowww ohhh k

I wouldn't have ranked him that high. :wink:

I watched it and wow...

[jammies]

Someone translate for me???


No idea what he was yammerin' about. He's now become a victim of the Anthony Epidemic. Can't wait to see him in the court room!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't let anything happen to get him thrown off this case!

[CelticDawn]

Oh jesus. Blaming his race. goof greif. has anyone ever said anything because he is hispanic?

IM SURE DECENT HISPANIC PEOPLE WORLDWIDE ARE EMBARRASSED AT HAVING HIM CLAIM TO BA A PART OF THEIR ETHNIC GROUP


....Him and Geraldo....


And I am sure that Jewish women WORLDWIDE are embarrassed by that weintraub woman!!! I have friends who are just mortified by that woman and ...that VOICE4!!!!

[Pooh]

Rdegardless of what he just said, he IS worried about the bar assoc investigation and he DOES care what people say about him. Why else in the world would he go on TV and say he wasn't?? If he really didn't care, he would shut his pie-hole and go about his day.

[Lavenia]

IM SURE DECENT HISPANIC PEOPLE WORLDWIDE ARE EMBARRASSED AT HAVING HIM CLAIM TO BA A PART OF THEIR ETHNIC GROUP


....Him and Geraldo....


And I am sure that Jewish women WORLDWIDE are embarrassed by that weintraub woman!!! I have friends who are just mortified by that woman and ...that VOICE4!!!!

Speaking as a WASP, we don't want Casey! :cursing:

[aubrey04]

Excuse me but I have to go. I have an interview with Univision.:lol:

Had to get that in there.

What was so important about the presser? Someone help me out.

jmo

To stick it to the American media - I guess? It didn't work. It made him look like an insensitive fool and a jerk. We're getting more info today about a heart sticker that was placed over the mouth of a murdered 2 year old girl.. the daughter of his client..and he uses the time to discuss this nonsense?

Oh well,back to reading :read: the documents that make his client look like an evil, selfish psycho..

[~layla~]

IIRC both Anthony Lazarro AND Jesse Grund gave statements to LE about caseys' allegations. As far as I know there would be no reason for these two gentlemen to conspire against casey, they weren't friends. Also I am pretty sure they BOTH took the lie detector exam. So, yeah, I don't understand either why discussions that are relevant and included in the official documents cannot be discussed. Incest is a pretty disgusting topic but if it's relevant, it's relevant. I'm not understanding the "sensitivity" issue on this one at all (Bratlings-I know you are giving us facts of the rules etc-I am not accusing you of being sensitive about this).

OMG people.. Ive read at least 8 posts regarding this same freakin issue... if you dont like the rule write CW to state your grievance and or complain that its part of the evidence... BUT stop talking about it on the open board. We have been warned, told, specifically asked to shut the _______ up about it. PERIOD.

Id like the board to stay open, and catch up on further developments... this isnt one of them. :blink::ohmy::angry:

[5boxersmom]

Why don't he just come out and say where the money for the experts is coming from? HMMMM.

[tmw]

Me. Myself. I. Yep. Thats 3.:thumbup:

Ain't that the damn truth!
(That twice I've cussed today, what is happening to me, jeez)

[Pruddennce]

Rdegardless of what he just said, he IS worried about the bar assoc investigation and he DOES care what people say about him. Why else in the world would he go on TV and say he wasn't?? If he really didn't care, he would shut his pie-hole and go about his day.

thank you......well said.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[3Monkeys]

Me. Myself. I. Yep. Thats 3.:thumbup:

Way too funny!:laugh:

[jammies]

Why yes! His three things, in his own words were:

"Me"
"Myself", and
"I"

:wink:


Even the host on HN is complaining about this.

[debkay]

Any ideas on the "metal can and a FedEx tracking number" could be??

[Pooh]

Speaking as a WASP, we don't want Casey! :cursing:

Thank you!!!! :beer:

[5boxersmom]

There's that defense attorney on HLN talking about Pics in a file that he saw and said the defense said they were going to sell them. I have heard him say this before.

jmo

[jakee]

I am not sure why he is crying about not getting to see the scene where the remains were found. I thought that LE said he could investigate when they were through and then he cried again and said it was too messed up. Why does he want to go now????

[Katprint]

Does this guy realize how many hispanic lawyers there are in Florida? :w00t:
Naturally my mind immediately went to former U.S. Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales. Of course, Guantanamo/Cuba are not precisely IN Florida.

His apparent belief that people are being mean to him due to his hispanic heritage - as opposed to his objectively poor performance - merely underscores the absolute lack of ability to perceive reality that taints all of the Anthonys and their attorneys.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[really3997]

Que Pasa can someone give me the last 5 min of my life back

[Jester]

That is bad. when your co-workers are seeing in real life what we are just preceiving. I bet they had many water cooler conversations behind Cindy's back. I would hate for my boss and my bosses boss to know anything personal about me in a bad way. They saw through Casey's bizzarrooo stories and tried to get Cindy to call LE. She just would not listen to them. I bet they bout passed out when Cindy came back to work talking about the car. Between Cindy's co-workers and Casey's friends I bet everyone is just sitting back saying WoW just WoW.
I would be afraid to be around someone like that.
Normal behavior would have been to call LE from the tow yard. If I had'nt called earlier before I knew the car was at the tow yard.

So true. She picked up the car, and then went back to work saying the car smelled like death. This came after she had already told coworkers that she hadn't seen Caylee for some time. Cindy would rather play at work than face the truth.

I have to wonder if Cindy even has a job anymore. Could she be let go for taking so much time off? If she needed time off to find Caylee, then that' has been done. What reason would she have for not returning to work? Caylee has been gone for months, so it's not like she's getting used to a new situation.

[myownopera]

Maybe he got that advice from Geraldo.....


:sneaky: You know, I'll bet you're right!!!

MOO

[Lavenia]

Que Pasa can someone give me the last 5 min of my life back

Sorry. We've been robbed. :blink:

[Pooh]

Any ideas on the "metal can and a FedEx tracking number" could be??

Gosh I hope it's the Chloroform.

[really3997]

I think he needs to prove that claim. He also needs to learn to speak like a person with at least a high school education. For an attorney he's really badly spoken.

Wesh 2 just disproved it

[CelticDawn]

Speaking as a WASP, we don't want Casey! :cursing:

WELL us cajun-Creole folks dont want her either.....Maybe she could move to the Congo.......where theyre fighting......NO WAIT!!! Those people wouldnt want her eigher.....

[Neffy]

Naturally my mind immediately went to former U.S. Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales. Of course, Guantanamo/Cuba are not precisely IN Florida.

His apparent belief that people are being mean to him due to his hispanic heritage - as opposed to his objectively poor performance - merely underscores the absolute lack of ability to perceive reality that taints all of the Anthonys and their attorneys.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Says alot of what's on his mind when he took this case.

[Loves2Read]

OMG people.. Ive read at least 8 posts regarding this same freakin issue... if you dont like the rule write CW to state your grievance and or complain that its part of the evidence... BUT stop talking about it on the open board. We have been warned, told, specifically asked to shut the _______ up about it. PERIOD.

Id like the board to stay open, and catch up on further developments... this isnt one of them. :blink::ohmy::angry:


Please use the PM feature to scold the few (less then ten people). The rest of us that are not involved do not need to be yelled at.

Thanks.

[happy2bme]

I am not sure why he is crying about not getting to see the scene where the remains were found. I thought that LE said he could investigate when they were through and then he cried again and said it was too messed up. Why does he want to go now????



Probably has something to do with H. Lee finding all those hairs...

[playnice]

I am not sure why he is crying about not getting to see the scene where the remains were found. I thought that LE said he could investigate when they were through and then he cried again and said it was too messed up. Why does he want to go now????

I think he read thru this descovery and realizes Caseys goose is cooked. He can not get her out of this mess. so he is going to whine poor me. Play the race card. direct attention off his client onto himself. when the jurors come back with GUILTY he will appeal that she didnt get a fair trial because 12 people didnt like him.

[Pooh]

Que Pasa can someone give me the last 5 min of my life back

Too late! Gone forever. :blink:

[True2Blues]

There's that defense attorney on HLN talking about Pics in a file that he saw and said the defense said they were going to sell them. I have heard him say this before.

jmo

I saw that too, he said he got that from the Attorney who was called in to get rid of the DP. I can't remember his name. Seems Jose has had his mind on Making $$$$ from day one.

They need to get rid of him now. If they don't any guilty verdict will be overturned for ineffective council and they'll have to start all over. Or else they'll fire him right before a trial date and then claim they need time to get a new attorney familiar with the case.

[Jester]

I think they couldnt believe she was sitting in work * work to do *......while she comments on a 'death smell' in her car on the heels of telling co-workers prior to that event that she had not been in contact with Caylee for an entire month.

it cannot be said that Cindy A wasnt given stellar advice: GO HOME
CALL POLICE

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Three documented times, no less.

[jammies]

Que Pasa can someone give me the last 5 min of my life back


No kidding. This is what I waited a whole hour for?

[CANDYKISSES]

Watching that presser a waste..... What a Waste!!!!!

Excuse me please...

HUGE WASTE...:thumbdown:

[True2Blues]

Wesh 2 just disproved it

Thank you. I thought that was a bogus claim.

[Cury-us Coyote]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live5pm6pm.html