TUESDAY MORNING JAN. 20th Part 1

[callmetree]

morning thread ready. hope this is a good news day:seeya:

[PuffDragon]

morning thread ready. hope this is a good news day:seeya:

Gm tree, new thread, new day. Maybe not much will happen today, everybody will be engrossed in the Washington goings on.

[Grins]

ahem=
Ladies, while discussing this case wander over to one of these department stores early and get free smellies!
"As part of a class action settlement, $175 million worth of free cosmetics products will be distributed to members of the class (see below to determine whether you are a member of the class) for a maximum of seven days, while supplies last, on a first come, first served basis, beginning on January 20, 2009. No rainchecks will be issued. The products will be distributed at stores owned by the Retailer Defendants (see list immediately below)...."
http://www.cosmeticssettlement.com/

[callmetree]

ahem=
Ladies, while discussing this case wander over to one of these department stores early and get free smellies!
"As part of a class action settlement, $175 million worth of free cosmetics products will be distributed to members of the class (see below to determine whether you are a member of the class) for a maximum of seven days, while supplies last, on a first come, first served basis, beginning on January 20, 2009. No rainchecks will be issued. The products will be distributed at stores owned by the Retailer Defendants (see list immediately below)...."
http://www.cosmeticssettlement.com/

interesting... thank you:smile:

[callmetree]

Gm tree, new thread, new day. Maybe not much will happen today, everybody will be engrossed in the Washington goings on.

morning puff, do you really think the inauguration would interfere with the doc dump? i hope not:huh: is there any news on caylee's services yet?

[PuffDragon]

ahem=
Ladies, while discussing this case wander over to one of these department stores early and get free smellies!
"As part of a class action settlement, $175 million worth of free cosmetics products will be distributed to members of the class (see below to determine whether you are a member of the class) for a maximum of seven days, while supplies last, on a first come, first served basis, beginning on January 20, 2009. No rainchecks will be issued. The products will be distributed at stores owned by the Retailer Defendants (see list immediately below)...."
http://www.cosmeticssettlement.com/

Yeh, heard about that. Too bad I don't care about any of it, free stuff is always good.

[PuffDragon]

morning puff, do you really think the inauguration would interfere with the doc dump? i hope not:huh: is there any news on caylee's services yet?
Well, if it slows down people working it might. And from the looks of things half of the country is taking a day off to be there. I won't see any of it, I'm babysitting so all I get to watch is Curious George and Kidsongs :sad:

Services? Who knows......

[Jeepers]

morning puff, do you really think the inauguration would interfere with the doc dump? i hope not:huh: is there any news on caylee's services yet?

Last night on NG the doctor, I don't remember his name was talking about the defense could be waiting on the prosecution's final report of the remains to be written up. He said when that is written the defense would be able to see what they have and compare the report to the remains in order to rebuff their findings. After that then the remains could be cremated or buried.
It is not about the truth. it is about the game.
I am glad I am just a lay person. I could not be on the defense on this case. My heart just would not let me.
Jose getting into the entertainment business, why did I see that coming! I knew he had other things on his mind beside Casey and her best interest. Saying that his new career would hinge on how this case turns out! WTH does that mean? What about effective counsel? Conflict of interest? Ethics (well I knew he did not have alot of that).
I just see this case dragging on with a lot of motions flying around so prosecution will not have to have a retrial if possible. JMO

[n/t]

CASEY ANTHONY: Let me speak for a second. Dad, I let everybody talk.

I`m not in control over any of this because I don`t know what the hell`s going on. I`m so beyond frustrated with -- with all of this. Yes, I know the most negative stuff that`s being said and it`s sickening. It`s disgusting, and people really need to get a life.

Right now, I`m so hurt by everything, I don`t even know what to say. I can`t even swallow right now, it hurts. I can`t even think straight at this moment. I`m just as much of a victim as the rest of you.

Life`s not fair. People aren`t always going to be nice. If they have nothing positive to say, need to shut up.

This is the most agitated and frustrated that I`ve been.

I`ll try to help them in whatever way that I can, but if they come in here attacking me, they`re not getting (DELETED). Sorry.

My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me!

GEORGE ANTHONY, CAYLEE`S GRANDFATHER: You`re the boss.

CASEY ANTHONY: I may have been the boss walking in here, but the roles have surely changed.



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/19/ng.01.html


They sure have Casey and you ain't seen nothing yet. :angry:

[callmetree]

CASEY ANTHONY: Let me speak for a second. Dad, I let everybody talk.

I`m not in control over any of this because I don`t know what the hell`s going on. I`m so beyond frustrated with -- with all of this. Yes, I know the most negative stuff that`s being said and it`s sickening. It`s disgusting, and people really need to get a life.

Right now, I`m so hurt by everything, I don`t even know what to say. I can`t even swallow right now, it hurts. I can`t even think straight at this moment. I`m just as much of a victim as the rest of you.

Life`s not fair. People aren`t always going to be nice. If they have nothing positive to say, need to shut up.

This is the most agitated and frustrated that I`ve been.

I`ll try to help them in whatever way that I can, but if they come in here attacking me, they`re not getting (DELETED). Sorry.

My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me!

GEORGE ANTHONY, CAYLEE`S GRANDFATHER: You`re the boss.

CASEY ANTHONY: I may have been the boss walking in here, but the roles have surely changed.



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/19/ng.01.html


They sure have Casey and you ain't seen nothing yet. :angry:

morning n/t, casey just makes me want to scream. i'm glad that video of her acting like that came out. wish they would use it in court.:angry: thanks jeepers for the info about the services. it's so sad to me that that baby has not properly been laid to rest. i don't know how the anthonys can stand this.

[n/t]

If this entertainment deal is true, I can see how Baez is twisting this and telling Casey she will get away with it and they will both become famous. That's why we see the smiles on their faces in the court room. So inappropriate in a baby murder trial. I wouldn't put it past Baez. Someone needs to explain the law to him. Is he for real? Good lord.

[ellegna]

CASEY ANTHONY: Let me speak for a second. Dad, I let everybody talk.

I`m not in control over any of this because I don`t know what the hell`s going on. I`m so beyond frustrated with -- with all of this. Yes, I know the most negative stuff that`s being said and it`s sickening. It`s disgusting, and people really need to get a life.



My bold
Was I watching the right tape? :ohmy:
I am so sure Casey dominated at least 90% of that visit with her Whaaa Whaaas. (http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/wegworker/crying-baby.jpg)
Also....Rather than worry what's being said about her maybe she should hold on to that Bible and ask forgiveness for the LIFE she took.

[n/t]

morning n/t, casey just makes me want to scream. i'm glad that video of her acting like that came out. wish they would use it in court.:angry: thanks jeepers for the info about the services. it's so sad to me that that baby has not properly been laid to rest. i don't know how the anthonys can stand this.

It is sad, tree. Very sad. I'm really questioning if the reason is that they're waiting on the toxicology reports. I wish there were reliable sources to tell us if that's the real reason. If so, then I could understand the defense's position. Not that I agree with it but they have a right to do their own tests before her remains are buried or cremated.

[n/t]

The way things are going, I don't think we'll see a trial before 2010. If the reports are true about Baez's entertainment deals which to my understanding are illegal then the defendent will need to get someone else representing her. Who will take on this case, pro bono? Oy vey.:unsure:

[PuffDragon]

morning n/t, casey just makes me want to scream. i'm glad that video of her acting like that came out. wish they would use it in court.:angry: thanks jeepers for the info about the services. it's so sad to me that that baby has not properly been laid to rest. i don't know how the anthonys can stand this.

Funny how the defense acts like this is all SOP. In most cases, or at least a lot of them, the suspect isn't arrested until after the victim has already been laid to rest. The defense then gets hold of the ME's report and works from there. If there seems to be something wrong or missed, maybe there's an exhumation, but in general they don't have the chance to do all this second autopsying and comparing, and even when there's an exhumation they get their information and rebury immediately. I take this delay and delay to be just so much more deflection. Keep the bones on ice and everybody will focus on that and not pay so much attention to the rest of what we're doing.............

MO of course.

[callmetree]

My bold
Was I watching the right tape? :ohmy:
I am so sure Casey dominated at least 90% of that visit with her Whaaa Whaaas. (http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/wegworker/crying-baby.jpg)
Also....Rather than worry what's being said about her maybe she should hold on to that Bible and ask forgiveness for the LIFE she took.

morning ellegna. i agree with you. if i had been her parents i would have let her hung the phone up ,got out of my chair and headed for the door. can you imagine how mad she would have been then? no way would i sit there and sweetheart her. she can never ask for forgiveness because she will never own up to what she has done.:angry:

[callmetree]

ellegna are you going to put up the candle link? you and blu are always so good about bringing it to each new thread.:wub:

[PuffDragon]

My bold
Was I watching the right tape? :ohmy:
I am so sure Casey dominated at least 90% of that visit with her Whaaa Whaaas. (http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/wegworker/crying-baby.jpg)
Also....Rather than worry what's being said about her maybe she should hold on to that Bible and ask forgiveness for the LIFE she took.

*Bolding mine

Wouldn't that be like asking for blanket immunity from the ultimate judge? Anyway, I think that only works if you believe you did something wrong.

[kOOkie1]

My bold
Was I watching the right tape? :ohmy:
I am so sure Casey dominated at least 90% of that visit with her Whaaa Whaaas. (http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/wegworker/crying-baby.jpg)
Also....Rather than worry what's being said about her maybe she should hold on to that Bible and ask forgiveness for the LIFE she took.

Thats what I was thinking ellegna..Isnt it funny Casey gets to determine when to take a life and when to tell people to get one!!:ohmy:

[n/t]

*Bolding mine

Wouldn't that be like asking for blanket immunity from the ultimate judge? Anyway, I think that only works if you believe you did something wrong.

She'll never confess, imo. I agree, she thinks she did nothing wrong. Listening to those tapes, she believes she's the victim not Caylee.

[ellegna]

Candles for Caylee
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle


:rose::rose::rose:


Caylee Guest Book

http://www.legacy.com/SPTimes/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=121581033

[AJandTam]

The way things are going, I don't think we'll see a trial before 2010. If the reports are true about Baez's entertainment deals which to my understanding are illegal then the defendent will need to get someone else representing her. Who will take on this case, pro bono? Oy vey.:unsure:

Morning n/t. Sure will be interesting to see how this plays out. Not looking like Mr B is going to be an attorney much longer if this is all true.

[callmetree]

Candles for Caylee
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle


:rose::rose::rose:


Caylee Guest Book

http://www.legacy.com/SPTimes/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=121581033



thank you so much!

[ellegna]

morning ellegna. i agree with you. if i had been her parents i would have let her hung the phone up ,got out of my chair and headed for the door. can you imagine how mad she would have been then? no way would i sit there and sweetheart her. she can never ask for forgiveness because she will never own up to what she has done.:angry:

I wouldn't have given Casey the chance to hang up. It would have been me.

[kitty1182]

I wouldn't have given Casey the chance to hang up. It would have been me.

Same here!!!

[callmetree]

I wouldn't have given Casey the chance to hang up. It would have been me.

ok you got me there. that's actually what i meant to write. i can visualize her throwing a fit and banging the phone on the counter. she would have no control over the conversation. :cool:

[spiritwolf46]

CASEY ANTHONY: Let me speak for a second. Dad, I let everybody talk.

I`m not in control over any of this because I don`t know what the hell`s going on. I`m so beyond frustrated with -- with all of this. Yes, I know the most negative stuff that`s being said and it`s sickening. It`s disgusting, and people really need to get a life.

Right now, I`m so hurt by everything, I don`t even know what to say. I can`t even swallow right now, it hurts. I can`t even think straight at this moment. I`m just as much of a victim as the rest of you.

Life`s not fair. People aren`t always going to be nice. If they have nothing positive to say, need to shut up.

This is the most agitated and frustrated that I`ve been.

I`ll try to help them in whatever way that I can, but if they come in here attacking me, they`re not getting (DELETED). Sorry.

My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me!

GEORGE ANTHONY, CAYLEE`S GRANDFATHER: You`re the boss.

CASEY ANTHONY: I may have been the boss walking in here, but the roles have surely changed.



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/19/ng.01.html


They sure have Casey and you ain't seen nothing yet. :angry:


Good morning all.

I cannot believe after hearing this that anyone would still say that Casey's personality is not a learned behavior. Her parents treat her like a 6 year old with the "your the boss, sweetheart, good looking kind of thing. I have never heard them address her as an adult. NEVER.

[spiritwolf46]

Morning n/t. Sure will be interesting to see how this plays out. Not looking like Mr B is going to be an attorney much longer if this is all true.


Morning Tam. No kidding! If all is true, I hope that they pull his license so fast, he won't know what hit him!

Seems everyone has gone money bonkers on this little baby's death and it makes me ill.

[really3997]

Morning Tam. No kidding! If all is true, I hope that they pull his license so fast, he won't know what hit him!

Seems everyone has gone money bonkers on this little baby's death and it makes me ill.

You know with all that I have learned following this case I seem to have been mistaken. Neither I or my children have never even seen the inside of a police station and if I want to go back even further I never seen the inside of the Principals office. Just the fear of my father reaching for his belt sent me in a tizzy. I have never use the belt on my children but I have learned the look and I have never seen their principals office either. But I keep telling my kids who cares what everyone else does as long as you keep out of trouble you will pervale over evil. All I see in this case is it ok to lie, steal, play the law for fools, Deny Deny Deny and you will be rich...This is really killing my parenting skills.

[desmom]

Playing catch up this morning and the lst headline I run across is Entertainment Deals Could Be Paying For Casey's Defense
http://www.wftv.com/news/18514454/detail.html#-

The allegation does not surprise me. I have wondered how JB was paying for the big names he has hired for this case.

From the link: Baez is involved with coordinating licensing fees and deals with various production companies, but does not profit on those matters.

Who does profit from these licensing fees and deals with production companies? I assume the licensing fees are for photos and videos. What kind of deals would he be coordinating with production companies? Made for TV movie?

This makes me ill. jmo

[Regina.Lampert]

If this entertainment deal is true, I can see how Baez is twisting this and telling Casey she will get away with it and they will both become famous. That's why we see the smiles on their faces in the court room. So inappropriate in a baby murder trial. I wouldn't put it past Baez. Someone needs to explain the law to him. Is he for real? Good lord.

Good morning n/t and everyone. This information about media deals and suspicion that baez is promoting deals at the expense of a competent defense for casey anthony is so interesting.

I have thought since the last hearing, when the prosecution requested that the defendant be brought to the courtroom to personally waive the hearing, that they were suspicious of just how baez is keeping casey anthony informed of her case.

I believe baez is not only incompetent, but his behavior may be bordering on unethical. Instead of filing a complaint with the prosecution, the unknown complaintant should have gone to the Florida State Bar.

This has to be straightened out NOW and not after the conviction or that verdict could be in jeopardy, imo.

[ellegna]

ok you got me there. that's actually what i meant to write. i can visualize her throwing a fit and banging the phone on the counter. she would have no control over the conversation. :cool:

Some how I can picture Casey carrying on with her rants not realizing George and Cindy left 10 min's ago :laugh:

[spiritwolf46]

You know with all that I have learned following this case I seem to have been mistaken. Neither I or my children have never even seen the inside of a police station and if I want to go back even further I never seen the inside of the Principals office. Just the fear of my father reaching for his belt sent me in a tizzy. I have never use the belt on my children but I have learned the look and I have never seen their principals office either. But I keep telling my kids who cares what everyone else does as long as you keep out of trouble you will pervale over evil. All I see in this case is it ok to lie, steal, play the law for fools, Deny Deny Deny and you will be rich...This is really killing my parenting skills.

Morning Really. No dear, it is not killing your wonderful parenting skills, for you have done everything and said everything right!

The Anthony's killed their own years ago, IMO, and there will never be anything that they can do now. It is all so very sad, for the baby paid the ultimate price for every single person in that family and their dysfunction.

[spiritwolf46]

Good morning n/t and everyone. This information about media deals and suspicion that baez is promoting deals at the expense of a competent defense for casey anthony is so interesting.

I have thought since the last hearing, when the prosecution requested that the defendant be brought to the courtroom to personally waive the hearing, that they were suspicious of just how baez is keeping casey anthony informed of her case.

I believe baez is not only incompetent, but his behavior may be bordering on unethical. Instead of filing a complaint with the prosecution, the unknown complaintant should have gone to the Florida State Bar.

This has to be straightened out NOW and not after the conviction or that verdict could be in jeopardy, imo.


ITA! Great post, as always, Regina!

[n/t]

Sharon Liko, family lawyer and criminal defense attorney said it best last night on JVM

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, just the fact that her mom is weeping, how can you smile in reaction to that? Wouldn`t you want to comfort your mom? If my mom was crying, I would try to comfort her and say, "Oh, don`t feel bad" or "I`m so sorry you`re crying." I mean, there`s no empathy there.

LUDWIG: No. One of two things...

LIKO: Not if you`re a lunatic. I mean, this case should be called Lunatics R Us.

[callmetree]

Some how I can picture Casey carrying on with her rants not realizing George and Cindy left 10 min's ago :laugh:

:lol::lol: too funny!

[AJandTam]

Morning Tam. No kidding! If all is true, I hope that they pull his license so fast, he won't know what hit him!

Seems everyone has gone money bonkers on this little baby's death and it makes me ill.

Good Morning to you Spirit. Money has certainly played way to much of a role here. Makes me ill as well.

[n/t]

Good morning n/t and everyone. This information about media deals and suspicion that baez is promoting deals at the expense of a competent defense for casey anthony is so interesting.

I have thought since the last hearing, when the prosecution requested that the defendant be brought to the courtroom to personally waive the hearing, that they were suspicious of just how baez is keeping casey anthony informed of her case.

I believe baez is not only incompetent, but his behavior may be bordering on unethical. Instead of filing a complaint with the prosecution, the unknown complaintant should have gone to the Florida State Bar.

This has to be straightened out NOW and not after the conviction or that verdict could be in jeopardy, imo.

I totally agree!!! What would the next steps be to get him removed from this case? What would the prosecution have to do? I wonder if there is proof of the entertainment deals? Thank goodness for Kathi Belich for bringing this to the public's attention. Let's hope there's enough proof in the coming days. I think Mr. Baez should start looking for a another career soon.

[AJandTam]

What happened to the doc dump. I read yesterday we were getting one, but then maybe not because of the holiday yesterday. Maybe today???

[ellegna]

You know with all that I have learned following this case I seem to have been mistaken. Neither I or my children have never even seen the inside of a police station and if I want to go back even further I never seen the inside of the Principals office. Just the fear of my father reaching for his belt sent me in a tizzy. I have never use the belt on my children but I have learned the look and I have never seen their principals office either. But I keep telling my kids who cares what everyone else does as long as you keep out of trouble you will pervale over evil. All I see in this case is it ok to lie, steal, play the law for fools, Deny Deny Deny and you will be rich...This is really killing my parenting skills.

Bravo on your wonderful parenting skills :thumbsup:

[Motomom]

Good morning.. I'll be here on and off today hoping for this doc dump or whatever, i'll take whatever they have.. Really wondering where this is all going to go with Baez. I'd say that was ineffective council and the judge might want to remove him before she has a chance to appeal for that reason. How can he remain on if this rumor that is being reported comes out to be true. Why would anyone, entertainment business or not pay for Casey's defense? Just for the spotlight I get. AFAIK it may not have been a printed rumor but he's been getting questioned from the onset as to who was paying him.

[really3997]

Good morning.. I'll be here on and off today hoping for this doc dump or whatever, i'll take whatever they have.. Really wondering where this is all going to go with Baez. I'd say that was ineffective council and the judge might want to remove him before she has a chance to appeal for that reason. How can he remain on if this rumor that is being reported comes out to be true. Why would anyone, entertainment business or not pay for Casey's defense? Just for the spotlight I get. AFAIK it may not have been a printed rumor but he's been getting questioned from the onset as to who was paying him.

I even think that George questioned it in one of the interviews IIRC

[msgatorslayer]

Playing catch up this morning and the lst headline I run across is Entertainment Deals Could Be Paying For Casey's Defense
http://www.wftv.com/news/18514454/detail.html#-

The allegation does not surprise me. I have wondered how JB was paying for the big names he has hired for this case.

From the link: Baez is involved with coordinating licensing fees and deals with various production companies, but does not profit on those matters.

Who does profit from these licensing fees and deals with production companies? I assume the licensing fees are for photos and videos. What kind of deals would he be coordinating with production companies? Made for TV movie?

This makes me ill. jmo

It is sickening and Im' glad someone has called in a complaint and it is being investigated.

I don't think Baez has Casey's best interest in mind. And I really worry about this case going to trial with him in the drivers seat.

G'morning, everyone! Florida may have some snow flurries tonight.:chicken: BRRRR!!!

[AJandTam]

Good morning.. I'll be here on and off today hoping for this doc dump or whatever, i'll take whatever they have.. Really wondering where this is all going to go with Baez. I'd say that was ineffective council and the judge might want to remove him before she has a chance to appeal for that reason. How can he remain on if this rumor that is being reported comes out to be true. Why would anyone, entertainment business or not pay for Casey's defense? Just for the spotlight I get. AFAIK it may not have been a printed rumor but he's been getting questioned from the onset as to who was paying him.

Here are my questions reguarding this. Am I wrong in that Baez is connected to Geraldo, which in turn connected Baez to these infamous experts. Linda Baden ect.. How is that going to play out IF these allegations are true? Will Casey lose her Dream Team?? I might have this all wrong.

[Motomom]

I even think that George questioned it in one of the interviews IIRC

Yep.. and remember the supposed 5,000 or some figure like that, that casey supposedly going to pay Baez..George had no idea how she'd do that. all this time the Anthony's have been accused of selling the pictures and what not..has it been Baez this whole time?

[shelbar53]

Caylee was kidnapped....no plea to find caylee

caylee's body was found...no plea to find the kidnappers and bring them to justice.

I think cindy & george know the truth and I also think they know it wasnt an accident.

How can they say casey loved caylee and would never hurt her? If she loved her and it was an accident and she did try to cover it then how do you explain her behavior afterwards? No grief or depression. Her behavior was happy to the point of being giddy. So to me, it was NO accident.

I have to think her parents are repulsed by her. If nothing else but because of the way she acted after caylee went missing and maybe even the way she acted when she was home on bond.

I also think Baez is NOT allowing anyone to visit casey so he can continue with his money fraud scheme. He probably has casey brainwashed into not allowing visitors.

Now im not so sure the A's are getting the big bucks, I think its all going to the defense team through some kind of deals. Oh sure, maybe baez is giving them enough to get by and so they dont squwak about no money...he is pacifing them. Maybe now with these money making deals with movies and stuff rumors will light a fire under the A's to have Baez checked out. I dont think cindy will take to kindly to having baez and others get rich off this and not her.

If baez is making movie deals and stuff then I hope he loses his license to practice law. I think the way he talked about LE and news reporters and his arrogrant behavior just might make someone want to dig into his plan. He should have been using honey instead of vinagar when dealing with LE and the news reporters. all IMO

good morning everyone

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m1d20-Baez-rumored-to-be-seeking-entertainment-deal-regarding-Anthony-case

[Motomom]

Here are my questions reguarding this. Am I wrong in that Baez is connected to Geraldo, which in turn connected Baez to these infamous experts. Linda Baden ect.. How is that going to play out IF these allegations are true? Will Casey lose her Dream Team?? I might have this all wrong.

What will they do? Work probono if this avenue of money fails them? To save face maybe? IDK but.. looks lie it will be a public defender for Casey if not. Less the A's decide to sell their souls to defend the baby killer.

[AJandTam]

What will they do? Work probono if this avenue of money fails them? To save face maybe? IDK but.. looks lie it will be a public defender for Casey if not. Less the A's decide to sell their souls to defend the baby killer.

There is alot of stuff going on behind the scenes. I hope we get the whole story on this someday. Baez might be the worst attorney we have ever seen in a case.. This whole thing seems to be breaking records in the worst case ever catagory.. Sheesh..

[really3997]

Now im not so sure the A's are getting the big bucks, I think its all going to the defense team through some kind of deals. Oh sure, maybe baez is giving them enough to get by and so they dont squwak about no money...he is pacifing them. Maybe now with these money making deals with movies and stuff rumors will light a fire under the A's to have Baez checked out. I dont think cindy will take to kindly to having baez and others get rich off this and not her.

If baez is making movie deals and stuff then I hope he loses his license to practice law. I think the way he talked about LE and news reporters and his arrogrant behavior just might make someone want to dig into his plan. He should have been using honey instead of vinagar when dealing with LE and the news reporters. all IMO

good morning everyone

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m1d20-Baez-rumored-to-be-seeking-entertainment-deal-regarding-Anthony-case

repectfully snipped:

Don't let this fool you. Beaz was given those pictures from someone. I think the A's realized he was getting more than they thought and they don't want that ..Anytime Conway makes a statement it has to do with people making money. Who trademarked Caylee likeness I can't remenber but I thougt it was the A's...I just think money is the root of this case and they will all be throwing each other under the bus when this is finished. JMO

[AJandTam]

Caylee was kidnapped....no plea to find caylee

caylee's body was found...no plea to find the kidnappers and bring them to justice.

I think cindy & george know the truth and I also think they know it wasnt an accident.

How can they say casey loved caylee and would never hurt her? If she loved her and it was an accident and she did try to cover it then how do you explain her behavior afterwards? No grief or depression. Her behavior was happy to the point of being giddy. So to me, it was NO accident.

I have to think her parents are repulsed by her. If nothing else but because of the way she acted after caylee went missing and maybe even the way she acted when she was home on bond.

I also think Baez is NOT allowing anyone to visit casey so he can continue with his money fraud scheme. He probably has casey brainwashed into not allowing visitors.

Now im not so sure the A's are getting the big bucks, I think its all going to the defense team through some kind of deals. Oh sure, maybe baez is giving them enough to get by and so they dont squwak about no money...he is pacifing them. Maybe now with these money making deals with movies and stuff rumors will light a fire under the A's to have Baez checked out. I dont think cindy will take to kindly to having baez and others get rich off this and not her.

If baez is making movie deals and stuff then I hope he loses his license to practice law. I think the way he talked about LE and news reporters and his arrogrant behavior just might make someone want to dig into his plan. He should have been using honey instead of vinagar when dealing with LE and the news reporters. all IMO

good morning everyone

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m1d20-Baez-rumored-to-be-seeking-entertainment-deal-regarding-Anthony-case

If this thing ever does materialize as a movie. I think most of the cast of charactors should be portrayed w/horns. What ya think? So far, I leave Nejames, and Caylee as the only truly pure hearted figures thus far...

[playnice]

Casey is his cash cow and ride to fame. Thats probably why she isnt seeing her family. He is brainwashing her into thinking he is God.
I hope there is an investigation into him and he is removed. As much as I want to see a guilty vertict, I want her to get it fair and square with proper representation and no grounds for appeal.

[n/t]

If this thing ever does materialize as a movie. I think most of the cast of charactors should be portrayed w/horns. What ya think? So far, I leave Nejames, and Caylee as the only truly pure hearted figures thus far...

I would add Tim Miller and the dedicated searchers to that list.

[Jeepers]

How to be the worst loser?
:blink:

That would be a good reality show. Watching trials of bungling attorney's send their clients down the river for their own personal gain. I guess Geraldo would be the money man in this venture along with some other TV money folks funding his little show. I hope the State of Florida slaps Baez real hard with their own version of reality.
I forgot the judge that presided over Anna Nicole. He also wanted a TV show. That went no where quick.
Caylee is laying there in a box or whatever they put in her in. Borax wanting to break into the entertainment business, Casey boo hooing about being a victim too, Cindy with her weight loss plan. George looking like a deer in the headlights. PI's filming abandon houses and woods looking for a live Caylee.This is just wrong.
Caylee has been lost in all of this since day 1.
I wish the state could round all these rodeo clowns up and charge them all with something that would send a message that this behavior will not be tolerated.
The OJ case set this standard of sending smoke & mirrors and I just believe that it needs to be stopped and get back to business of defending clients on basis of evidence and witness testimony according to law not law according to clown justice.jmo

[AJandTam]

repectfully snipped:

Don't let this fool you. Beaz was given those pictures from someone. I think the A's realized he was getting more than they thought and they don't want that ..Anytime Conway makes a statement it has to do with people making money. Who trademarked Caylee likeness I can't remenber but I thougt it was the A's...I just think money is the root of this case and they will all be throwing each other under the bus when this is finished. JMO

Really, I am going to agree w/you. Caylee isn't a person anymore to the cast of charactors. She's a money machine.. Grrrrrrr .... Donations are a normal aspect of most cases like this. No big deal, but what's going on here IMHO, is over and beyond sick.

[n/t]

Casey is his cash cow and ride to fame. Thats probably why she isnt seeing her family. He is brainwashing her into thinking he is God.
I hope there is an investigation into him and he is removed. As much as I want to see a guilty vertict, I want her to get it fair and square with proper representation and no grounds for appeal.

You may be right. I don't think the A's trust Baez but Casey does. Who knows what he's feeding the sociopath....probably everything she WANTS to hear. She has a hard time swallowing what her parents are asking her but I bet she has no trouble swallowing those snacks and Baez's BS.

[really3997]

You may be right. I don't think the A's trust Baez but Casey does. Who knows what he's feeding the sociopath....probably everything she WANTS to hear. She has a hard time swallowing what her parents are asking her but I bet she has no trouble swallowing those snacks and Baez's BS.

Bolding mine...

I am still going back to that look on Casey's face when she was in court when they were talking about evidence they had on her...It seemed to me that she was a bit shocked at that point.

[AJandTam]

That would be a good reality show. Watching trials of bungling attorney's send their clients down the river for their own personal gain. I guess Geraldo would be the money man in this venture along with some other TV money folks funding his little show. I hope the State of Florida slaps Baez real hard with their own version of reality.
I forgot the judge that presided over Anna Nicole. He also wanted a TV show. That went no where quick.
Caylee is laying there in a box or whatever they put in her in. Borax wanting to break into the entertainment business, Casey boo hooing about being a victim too, Cindy with her weight loss plan. George looking like a deer in the headlights. PI's filming abandon houses and woods looking for a live Caylee.This is just wrong.
Caylee has been lost in all of this since day 1.
I wish the state could round all these rodeo clowns up and charge them all with something that would send a message that this behavior will not be tolerated.
The OJ case set this standard of sending smoke & mirrors and I just believe that it needs to be stopped and get back to business of defending clients on basis of evidence and witness testimony according to law not law according to clown justice.jmo

Borax.. lol. That is funny.... Geraldo, grrrrrr I really want to know IF he has a hand in all of this as well.

[Regina.Lampert]

I totally agree!!! What would the next steps be to get him removed from this case? What would the prosecution have to do? I wonder if there is proof of the entertainment deals? Thank goodness for Kathi Belich for bringing this to the public's attention. Let's hope there's enough proof in the coming days. I think Mr. Baez should start looking for a another career soon.

That's a good question. I think the Court has to tread very carefully here because of the attorney client privilege and also so it does not seem to be favoring one side.

I think Kathy Belich mentioned something about a hearing, bet that is held in chambers. Then perhaps the Florida Bar has some entity to investigate. I just hope it's handled appropriately and I have faith in Judge Strickland to do just that.

[Motomom]

Bolding mine...

I am still going back to that look on Casey's face when she was in court when they were talking about evidence they had on her...It seemed to me that she was a bit shocked at that point.

Well one minute she says she's in the dark, the next minute baez is keeping her up to date. Granted, this was before the body was found but really Casey..what's the truth. I think Baez stepped in twice when IMO he shouldn't have, he should have left the decision up to her. I hate to think that they could have found Caylees body long before December 11th. Casey is what she is, don't get me wrong..but if there was a time where she was going to confess it has come and gone.

[chrissybot]

Caylee was kidnapped....no plea to find caylee

caylee's body was found...no plea to find the kidnappers and bring them to justice.

I think cindy & george know the truth and I also think they know it wasnt an accident.

How can they say casey loved caylee and would never hurt her? If she loved her and it was an accident and she did try to cover it then how do you explain her behavior afterwards? No grief or depression. Her behavior was happy to the point of being giddy. So to me, it was NO accident.

I have to think her parents are repulsed by her. If nothing else but because of the way she acted after caylee went missing and maybe even the way she acted when she was home on bond.

I also think Baez is NOT allowing anyone to visit casey so he can continue with his money fraud scheme. He probably has casey brainwashed into not allowing visitors.

Now im not so sure the A's are getting the big bucks, I think its all going to the defense team through some kind of deals. Oh sure, maybe baez is giving them enough to get by and so they dont squwak about no money...he is pacifing them. Maybe now with these money making deals with movies and stuff rumors will light a fire under the A's to have Baez checked out. I dont think cindy will take to kindly to having baez and others get rich off this and not her.

If baez is making movie deals and stuff then I hope he loses his license to practice law. I think the way he talked about LE and news reporters and his arrogrant behavior just might make someone want to dig into his plan. He should have been using honey instead of vinagar when dealing with LE and the news reporters. all IMO

good morning everyone

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m1d20-Baez-rumored-to-be-seeking-entertainment-deal-regarding-Anthony-case

Hey Shelbar. g'morning everyone:seeya:. It seemed as if(by her actions) Casey was on a "high" after she killed Caylee. I don't believe at all this was any kind of accident. JMO

[AJandTam]

You may be right. I don't think the A's trust Baez but Casey does. Who knows what he's feeding the sociopath....probably everything she WANTS to hear. She has a hard time swallowing what her parents are asking her but I bet she has no trouble swallowing those snacks and Baez's BS.

One thing I thought for a long time now is that Cindy the control freak didn't appear to be trying to control Baez. I kept thinking, how is he keeping her at bay.

[really3997]

One thing I thought for a long time now is that Cindy the control freak didn't appear to be trying to control Baez. I kept thinking, how is he keeping her at bay.

My guess is Conway

[AJandTam]

My guess is Conway

No, I was wondering about this long before Conway entered the picture.

[Jeepers]

Borax.. lol. That is funny.... Geraldo, grrrrrr I really want to know IF he has a hand in all of this as well.

I believe (with no proof just actions) that Borax has smoozed up to Geraldo and has been on enough TV interviews that he would find Geraldo's job exciting not to discount the money factor either. Geraldo whether I like him or not he does have a pretty good life. Borax would be very impressed and would be biting at the bit to get to live that lifestyle.
Casey is his dream come true. Hig profile, many opportunities for photo ops exposure to high dollar attorney's with connections. Borax can alomost taste it. The only thing is he is not smart enough to pull it together. He is just not savy, just slimey. He has to have both to make it work.
If he had waited until the trial was over and then pursued his TV options no one would have said a word he is just greedy and it shows.
He is like saran wrap. You can see right through him.

[Regina.Lampert]

Playing catch up this morning and the lst headline I run across is Entertainment Deals Could Be Paying For Casey's Defense
http://www.wftv.com/news/18514454/detail.html#-

The allegation does not surprise me. I have wondered how JB was paying for the big names he has hired for this case.

From the link: Baez is involved with coordinating licensing fees and deals with various production companies, but does not profit on those matters.

Who does profit from these licensing fees and deals with production companies? I assume the licensing fees are for photos and videos. What kind of deals would he be coordinating with production companies? Made for TV movie?

This makes me ill. jmo


Thank you Des for this informative article:

A spokesperson for the State Attorney's Office said the state is aware of the allegations. Prosecutors want to know who is paying his fees and how much money has been spent. The State Attorney's Office spokesperson also said the court is aware of the complaints and it will be up to judge to decide how to handle it.

Jose Baez's spokesperson said Baez has not made any contingent deals. He said Baez is involved with coordinating licensing fees and deals with various production companies, but does not profit on those matters
-----------------------------------------------

So, looks like it's up to the Judge to investigate and then take action.

I think what baez has done is arrange the deals, with the monies going to casey anthony who will then authorize a fat check to baez for his "expertise" in defending her. Slick.

[ishkabibble]

Casey plays it on the tape like she has no information from the outside, but she knew quick enough about George yelling at the media right before he came in to see her. She is plenty aware of what is going on in the outside world. What was up with her talking about "learning something" she said what I am supposed to learn in here, I mean after the first week?

Does she think she is in some sort of timeout? like a parent would punish a child. the family dynamics are really strange to watch. I bet a family counselor would have a field day.

Also did any one see a strong resemblance to Caylee when Casey screwed her face up and clenched her fists. Totally looked like Caylee in the video where she is frowning.

[AJandTam]

Thank you Des for this informative article:

A spokesperson for the State Attorney's Office said the state is aware of the allegations. Prosecutors want to know who is paying his fees and how much money has been spent. The State Attorney's Office spokesperson also said the court is aware of the complaints and it will be up to judge to decide how to handle it.

Jose Baez's spokesperson said Baez has not made any contingent deals. He said Baez is involved with coordinating licensing fees and deals with various production companies, but does not profit on those matters
-----------------------------------------------

So, looks like it's up to the Judge to investigate and then take action.

I think what baez has done is arrange the deals, with the monies going to casey anthony who will then authorize a fat check to baez for his "expertise" in defending her. Slick.

Isn't there a law that prevents defendants from making money off their victim??

[msgatorslayer]

You may be right. I don't think the A's trust Baez but Casey does. Who knows what he's feeding the sociopath....probably everything she WANTS to hear. She has a hard time swallowing what her parents are asking her but I bet she has no trouble swallowing those snacks and Baez's BS.

And the Anthony's wouldn't tell Casey their feelings on Baez, even if they did meet with her.

Casey has a crush on Baez, IMO. And he's her night in shining armor cause nobody else believes her. Even her parents, ask to many hard questions of her that gets her pizzed off. With Baez, everything is smooth sailing. He tells her what she wants to hear instead of telling her that the state has enough evidence to get a conviction. JMO

[AJandTam]

I believe (with no proof just actions) that Borax has smoozed up to Geraldo and has been on enough TV interviews that he would find Geraldo's job exciting not to discount the money factor either. Geraldo whether I like him or not he does have a pretty good life. Borax would be very impressed and would be biting at the bit to get to live that lifestyle.
Casey is his dream come true. Hig profile, many opportunities for photo ops exposure to high dollar attorney's with connections. Borax can alomost taste it. The only thing is he is not smart enough to pull it together. He is just not savy, just slimey. He has to have both to make it work.
If he had waited until the trial was over and then pursued his TV options no one would have said a word he is just greedy and it shows.
He is like saran wrap. You can see right through him.

I agree. Baez wants to be someone he is definately not.

[kOOkie1]

"Well I just hope he's honestly telling you what you're up against Casey," said Cindy.

"Mom I honestly know what I'm up against. Do you know understand what I'm up against? And with keeping me here you're not helping me help myself," said Casey.


To me, this kinda says it all..The A's will always blame Baez and Casey will always blame Cindy. The reality that Casey murdered Caylee and she alone is to blame will never happen, sadly. (imo):closedeyes:



http://www.wftv.com/news/18514454/detail.html#-

[funkyflower]

Post #32 <respectfully snipped>

Good morning everyone. ITA. I started to wonder when they requested she attend. I couldn't find anyone from that office who's tried to make this a media circus, so I knew they couldn't be motivated by just getting her physically there without cause.

It sure will be interesting to see what happens next.

[Pat]

Can someone tell me....

How much detail would the Anthony's have been privy to regarding the basis for Casey's arrest?

IOWs, the prosecution felt they could prove (beyond reasonable doubt) that Casey, and Casey alone, killed Caylee so they had a basis for making the arrest, even without a body.

Baez must have been told some of the details, correct? Could he have kept the Anthony parents in the dark, or could LE have passed on some information to the senior Ants?

Have the Anthony parents ever refuted any specifics regarding the basis for Casey's arrest?

Given the rumors surrounding Baez's "deals", is it possible Casey hasn't been told how strong the case is against her, and if Baez isn't keeping his client fully informed, how will the judge find out?

Lots of questions so early in the am...:laugh:

[Regina.Lampert]

When casey anthony says the following:


CASEY ANTHONY: Outside of that, I have nothing to go on. Every day I have to sit here and wait and wonder. I wonder if something`s going on. I wonder -- I`m wondering if there is something new.


I think she is referring to not knowing what evidence LE has found to use against her. I am so glad she gave us a small glimpse of what bothers her. I bet after hearing about possible fingerprints on the duct tape, she is more then a little concerned. GOOD!

And, I would be remiss if I didn't highlight another Amazing Grace zinger, from last night:


CASEY ANTHONY: ... I`m frustrated and I`m angry and I don`t want to be angry. This is the first time I`ve truly, truly been angry this entire time. But I`m so beyond frustrated with -- with all of this that I can`t even swallow right now, it hurts.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Well, all those snacks have got to be going somewhere. We`ll be back in 30 seconds.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/19/ng.01.html


:lol:

[jammies]

Caylee was kidnapped....no plea to find caylee

caylee's body was found...no plea to find the kidnappers and bring them to justice.

I think cindy & george know the truth and I also think they know it wasnt an accident.

How can they say casey loved caylee and would never hurt her? If she loved her and it was an accident and she did try to cover it then how do you explain her behavior afterwards? No grief or depression. Her behavior was happy to the point of being giddy. So to me, it was NO accident.

I have to think her parents are repulsed by her. If nothing else but because of the way she acted after caylee went missing and maybe even the way she acted when she was home on bond.

I also think Baez is NOT allowing anyone to visit casey so he can continue with his money fraud scheme. He probably has casey brainwashed into not allowing visitors.

Now im not so sure the A's are getting the big bucks, I think its all going to the defense team through some kind of deals. Oh sure, maybe baez is giving them enough to get by and so they dont squwak about no money...he is pacifing them. Maybe now with these money making deals with movies and stuff rumors will light a fire under the A's to have Baez checked out. I dont think cindy will take to kindly to having baez and others get rich off this and not her.

If baez is making movie deals and stuff then I hope he loses his license to practice law. I think the way he talked about LE and news reporters and his arrogrant behavior just might make someone want to dig into his plan. He should have been using honey instead of vinagar when dealing with LE and the news reporters. all IMO

good morning everyone

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m1d20-Baez-rumored-to-be-seeking-entertainment-deal-regarding-Anthony-case



The no plea to the kidnappers/nanny was the DING DING DING moment. Which means they knew from the get-go.
The only player in this whole charade that made a plea for Caylee's return was Leonard. Crazy ole' Lenny. The one Casey KICKED out of the house for asking questions.

[Destini]

Isn't there a law that prevents defendants from making money off their victim??

That's what I thought ..... so then what happens? Who gets the money from the entertainment deals?

I agree with what someone said last night on one of the shows. It makes you wonder about ineffective counsel. Seems if Baez is involved with these entertainment deals he would want the biggest circus he could muster, a trial with all the media attorneys & media experts. Might not be what's in the best interest for Casey, which just might be pleading guilty. Depends on what he knows. Really makes you wonder about him not wanting Casey to talk to anyone. She is young & could easily be manipulated by him. I hope the judge can get to the bottom of this.

I think she's guilty, but if she were my child I would be livid at an attorney manipulating and giving bad advice, would probably file a complaint with the bar & have him investigated myself. What a mess.

[Regina.Lampert]

Isn't there a law that prevents defendants from making money off their victim??

Hiya Tam!! Used to be, the Son of Sam law but iirc it was struck down.

[jammies]

When casey anthony says the following:


CASEY ANTHONY: Outside of that, I have nothing to go on. Every day I have to sit here and wait and wonder. I wonder if something`s going on. I wonder -- I`m wondering if there is something new.


I think she is referring to not knowing what evidence LE has found to use against her. I am so glad she gave us a small glimpse of what bothers her. I bet after hearing about possible fingerprints on the duct tape, she is more then a little concerned. GOOD!

And, I would be remiss if I didn't highlight another Amazing Grace zinger, from last night:


CASEY ANTHONY: ... I`m frustrated and I`m angry and I don`t want to be angry. This is the first time I`ve truly, truly been angry this entire time. But I`m so beyond frustrated with -- with all of this that I can`t even swallow right now, it hurts.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Well, all those snacks have got to be going somewhere. We`ll be back in 30 seconds.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/19/ng.01.html


:lol:


The transcript is incorrect. It's "FRUSHtrated". :tongueside:

[KKKKKKatie]

The transcript is incorrect. It's "FRUSHtrated". :tongueside:

:lol::lol:

[Motomom]

One thing I thought for a long time now is that Cindy the control freak didn't appear to be trying to control Baez. I kept thinking, how is he keeping her at bay.

Remember when Cindy was outside with Baez "supporting" him during an interview? I believe it was right after she was arrested the second time..if she didnt' trust him, and gA didn't from the getgo.. yet she supported him and I it was an odd video IMO

[Regina.Lampert]

The transcript is incorrect. It's "FRUSHtrated". :tongueside:

:thumbsup:

Hiya Jammies, what a whinefest that tape is and all the while she shows a complete callous disregard for the pain that cynthia is obviously experiencing.

[bchand]

The transcript is incorrect. It's "FRUSHtrated". :tongueside:

Don't you hate it when her words are Mishconstrued?

[Motomom]

i remember that, but i think things changed, once the A's figured out some of their notes to Casey weren't getting to them....or so that's how Lee made it sound during one of his visits, anyway...

btw...good morning MM :seeya:

good morning.. yes but GA from his first LE and FBI interviews, can't remember which one, he stated he didn't care much for Baez. I would think that him and CA would be on the same page there?

[BJames]

Just a question in case anyone knows?

It has been said (even by Jose) that he has the 'rights' to Caylee's body, do those 'rights' end once the baby is buried?
Also...if Casey has signed over her 'rights' to photos (etc) and she and Baez have a falling out...would Casey have to sue Jose to get them back...or can she even do that?

Thanks in advance to anyone who knows..

[read-in]

The video in august say's soooo much!!
I am wondering what a taped visit TODAY, would sound like... now that everyone know's all about the duct tape, the air sample's and so forth. back then, she states she was a victim, and no info, I just wonder what ole baez is telling her now... I would just love to be a fly on the wall, guess she had enough time now to read the entire Bible...
Oh Good morning to all:loveeyes:

[Regina.Lampert]

Can someone tell me....

How much detail would the Anthony's have been privy to regarding the basis for Casey's arrest?

IOWs, the prosecution felt they could prove (beyond reasonable doubt) that Casey, and Casey alone, killed Caylee so they had a basis for making the arrest, even without a body.

Baez must have been told some of the details, correct? Could he have kept the Anthony parents in the dark, or could LE have passed on some information to the senior Ants?

Have the Anthony parents ever refuted any specifics regarding the basis for Casey's arrest?

Given the rumors surrounding Baez's "deals", is it possible Casey hasn't been told how strong the case is against her, and if Baez isn't keeping his client fully informed, how will the judge find out?

Lots of questions so early in the am...:laugh:


Pat, great questions. If LE and the prosecutors suspect baez isn't telling casey anthony how shaky her defense is, I can see the investigators going to mommy and daddy and explaining to them how devastating their evidence is in the hope they could talk to casey.

They have to get pass baez tho......

I think we learned yesterday that they do have a scheduled visit with her on Thursday. Maybe this will be the day they try to warn her.

Investigators did pay the anthonys a visit on Friday when GVS was there.

[Pat]

Someone asked if the doc dump could be affected by the inauguration...IMO, no. The only place I am aware of that completely shuts down except for essential personnel are the Federal Agencies in Wash, DC metro area. And that is because of the impact of street closings, influx of auto traffic and strains on Metro system.

I know for a fact they have closed for the past 6 inaugs...whether or not they closed prior to that I couldn't say.

[bchand]

The video in august say's soooo much!!
I am wondering what a taped visit TODAY, would sound like... now that everyone know's all about the duct tape, the air sample's and so forth. back then, she states she was a victim, and no info, I just wonder what ole baez is telling her now... I would just love to be a fly on the wall, guess she had enough time now to read the entire Bible...
Oh Good morning to all:loveeyes:

I was wondering that too. The main difference would be none of them could pretend that Caylee is alive any longer.

I guess there is nothing left to talk about for them.

Well Casey could still whine that she needs to get out of there to help search for the real killer.

That would be just about as credible as her earlier statements.

[BJames]

I think I might have missed that..are Cindy and George meant to be visiting Casey on Thursday?
Thanks..

[trich]

Bravo on your wonderful parenting skills :thumbsup:

I agree.....
I am a mother of 2 grown kids who have almost grown kids of their own and I am proud to say that we in this family have perpetuated the same parental skills.....if more continue to do just this we just might wake society up into understanding you have to "do the right thing".
You don't live your life afraid to teach your kids right from wrong
because they might have temper tantrums.
You teach them that there are consequences for bad behavior.



On another thought:
Does anyone think it could be possible that Casey does not really know
what Baez is doing and is only getting information from him?
I mean if she is not talking to anyone else .....does she get to watch
the news in Jail?
If she does see/hear the news I would think she would be a little upset
to say the least.
I wonder if she knows the reality of her situation.

[Elle]

Remember when Cindy was outside with Baez "supporting" him during an interview? I believe it was right after she was arrested the second time..if she didnt' trust him, and gA didn't from the getgo.. yet she supported him and I it was an odd video IMO

It was an odd video.
Isn't that the one where Baez says 'you are all assuming... that my client does not know where her daughter is'?

[read-in]

I sure dont see ppof having any new taped visits;
cannot face her parents
everyone know's the REAL story
Baez wants to keep her in the dark
She cant leave all of her goodies and her bed:tonguewag:

[WillowInFlight]

I agree.....
I am a mother of 2 grown kids who have almost grown kids of their own and I am proud to say that we in this family have perpetuated the same parental skills.....if more continue to do just this we just might wake society up into understanding you have to "do the right thing".
You don't live your life afraid to teach your kids right from wrong
because they might have temper tantrums.
You teach them that there are consequences for bad behavior.

ITA, but whose to blame? Cindy's mom, George's mom? There comes a point where these kids have to have ownership.

[WillowInFlight]

I sure dont see ppof having any new taped visits;
cannot face her parents
everyone know's the REAL story
Baez wants to keep her in the dark
She cant leave all of her goodies and her bed:tonguewag:

I truly believe that Baez is behind the "no" visits.

[?noanswer]

She'll never confess, imo. I agree, she thinks she did nothing wrong. Listening to those tapes, she believes she's the victim not Caylee.



I think she truly thought that she would be going before the TV cameras telling her story and maybe getting a $1 million dollar donations like the McCanns. That is what has been taken away from her. She never dreamed she would be arrested before she had even 1 media appearance. JMO

[kitty1182]

I think I might have missed that..are Cindy and George meant to be visiting Casey on Thursday?
Thanks..


Wow, I didn't know that..Now that is one I would love to see!!!!!

[Regina.Lampert]

I think I might have missed that..are Cindy and George meant to be visiting Casey on Thursday?
Thanks..

BJ, I just went back and tried to get the post about that visit and I can't find it. I could have sworn I saw where they had a scheduled visit. Did I dream it, did anyone else see that yesterday.

Just disregard until I can find some proof. I apologize if I misread something.

[msgatorslayer]

It was an odd video.
Isn't that the one where Baez says 'you are all assuming... that my client does not know where her daughter is'?

Oh, I forgot about that statement. Well, where is she? Yup, rotting in the woods. She knew it, ALL ALONG!

[?noanswer]

Playing catch up this morning and the lst headline I run across is Entertainment Deals Could Be Paying For Casey's Defense
http://www.wftv.com/news/18514454/detail.html#-

The allegation does not surprise me. I have wondered how JB was paying for the big names he has hired for this case.

From the link: Baez is involved with coordinating licensing fees and deals with various production companies, but does not profit on those matters.

Who does profit from these licensing fees and deals with production companies? I assume the licensing fees are for photos and videos. What kind of deals would he be coordinating with production companies? Made for TV movie?

This makes me ill. jmo

If he was going to do those things, he should have done all the paperwork in KC's name. He was probably afraid she could not get/keep after she was convicted. He knows KC doesn't have the funds to pay for his services, much less the other "dream team" lawyers & experts. I think he is in cohorts with T. Black in making all these deals. Course if he is taking the $'s from the A's pocket, then they will be doing all they can to stop him. I don't they should benefit either. JMO

[msgatorslayer]

I truly believe that Baez is behind the "no" visits.

And it serves Casey well. She doesn't want her Mom hounding her anyway. She can just blame it on Baez and the States case against her.

[bchand]

BJ, I just went back and tried to get the post about that visit and I can't find it. I could have sworn I saw where they had a scheduled visit. Did I dream it, did anyone else see that yesterday.

Just disregard until I can find some proof. I apologize if I misread something.

Hi Reggie - Yesterday someone posted that a visit was scheduled for Thursday HOWEVER, the article they referred to was from August so I don't know if there is a current visit scheduled or not.

[shelbar53]

The Aug 14th video showed that casey was NOT handling being in jail very well. I do think she feltt she would get out because, no body = doubt.

When the bag of bones was found, casey freaked out because she knew the remains were caylee and now any hope of getting out of jail was gone.

I also think she doesnt want to show up at court is because she is ashamed to show her face. When she was forced to go a few weeks ago, she looked straight ahead and didnt look around. Kinda like when I quick run to the store and my hair is a mess...if I dont make eye contact with anyone then they cant se me.

I wonder if her "friends" would show up outside of court and jeer at her when she walks by, how humiliating would that be. Her friends have to much class to do that..but it's nice to imagine it.

[daHawg]

BJ, I just went back and tried to get the post about that visit and I can't find it. I could have sworn I saw where they had a scheduled visit. Did I dream it, did anyone else see that yesterday.

Just disregard until I can find some proof. I apologize if I misread something.

Reg maybe you saw the post I made yesterday when I posted part of a link saying that the A's "new" visit was still set for thursday referring to the Aug 14th visit as being a scheduled visit from a news report on Aug 11th?

See my post #732 could that be the confusion?
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12675771#post12675771

[bchand]

If he was going to do those things, he should have done all the paperwork in KC's name. He was probably afraid she could not get/keep after she was convicted. He knows KC doesn't have the funds to pay for his services, much less the other "dream team" lawyers & experts. I think he is in cohorts with T. Black in making all these deals. Course if he is taking the $'s from the A's pocket, then they will be doing all they can to stop him. I don't they should benefit either. JMO

I definitely agree that Todd Black is connected to this "entertainment" rumor. No doubt about it.

I also wonder just what Jose has had Casey sign?

[Pat]

I gather all visits at the jail are taped. Could Baez request video not be released because it would be prejudicial to the defendant?

Thanks, Regina, for your response to my questions earlier.

I just find it so hard to believe some of the more experienced people on this case wouldn't have removed themselves if there is any question of unethical behavior on Baez's part. I was thinking of LKB...but given what I saw with my own two eyes in the Spector case, I guess not. :blink:

[?noanswer]

Some how I can picture Casey carrying on with her rants not realizing George and Cindy left 10 min's ago :laugh:

I agree. Once she realized they had left, she would have thrown the phone at the TV camera. JMO

[WillowInFlight]

And it serves Casey well. She doesn't want her Mom hounding her anyway. She can just blame it on Baez and the States case against her.

ITA, she may think she is sitting pretty now, wait until she hear the word, GUILTY. BTW love your sig. lol

[gaelicpeas]

BJ, I just went back and tried to get the post about that visit and I can't find it. I could have sworn I saw where they had a scheduled visit. Did I dream it, did anyone else see that yesterday.

Just disregard until I can find some proof. I apologize if I misread something.I saw that post, Regina, with a link back to an August article. I THINK it was referring to an August visit, but I could be wrong.

[CelticDawn]

Remember when Cindy was outside with Baez "supporting" him during an interview? I believe it was right after she was arrested the second time..if she didnt' trust him, and gA didn't from the getgo.. yet she supported him and I it was an odd video IMO

Odd indeed. Just remember....sometimes as distasteful as it is...we make deals with the devil as a means to an end.....In this case the end is to 1...protect casey <futile>....and 2....cover their own a$$es <another exercise in futility>

IMO of course...

[Jeepers]

& don't forget "ekspecially"

It is a shame that she did not finish High School. She just did not prepare herself for properly for Public Speaking, Event Planner, talking.

"A mind is a terrible thing to waste"

The last video tape really showed the true Casey with her temper tantrums: The clenched fist, bug eyes and threats.

I bet the Anthony home rocked with drama between Casey and Cindy.
You can see that when Casey gets going Cindy gets passive and condesending. This lights Casey up like a roman candle on the 4th of July.
To argue with Cindy and have to listen to her smart alec mouth would be enough to make me blow a gasket.
Cindy says just enough to make Casey mad and then backs off. The ole addage: "you can dish it out but can't take it". Casey knows what buttons to push to shut Cindy down and she knows that when she reaches her boiling point Cindy will shut up and go away. The Frushtration in that house ran ekepecially high. The night of the 15th must have been a good one! Cindy must have really had Casey up to her eyeballs with her lying and stealing if true that Cindy wrapped her hands around Casey's throat it must have shocked the Sh!T out of her. Casey never saw that coming. She knew how to handle Cindy, she thought. Casey knew how to get Cindy back and that was Caylee. What a mess. I hope they show that and other video at trial to show demeanor and actions of Casey her shaking her fist and just a general display of her tantrum and reactions when questioned.

[?noanswer]

That's a good question. I think the Court has to tread very carefully here because of the attorney client privilege and also so it does not seem to be favoring one side.

I think Kathy Belich mentioned something about a hearing, bet that is held in chambers. Then perhaps the Florida Bar has some entity to investigate. I just hope it's handled appropriately and I have faith in Judge Strickland to do just that.

There is a link to a legal analyst's take on this. It will not be open to the public. Only the legal eagles, Baez and Casey can be there. JMO

[ishkabibble]

The video in august say's soooo much!!
I am wondering what a taped visit TODAY, would sound like... now that everyone know's all about the duct tape, the air sample's and so forth. back then, she states she was a victim, and no info, I just wonder what ole baez is telling her now... I would just love to be a fly on the wall, guess she had enough time now to read the entire Bible...
Oh Good morning to all:loveeyes:

what kills me is her concern is not her original stated reason for not talking .. someone hurting Caylee, but now it is not giving THEM anything else to throw at her. Despite any public stance to the contrary I think this video shows that Cindy knows Casey will never tell her anything more about where Caylee is. Cindy knows Caylee is lost to them.

Once Casey got someone on her side (BAEZ) who supports her, indeed insists on her continued silence, any hope of Casey talking ended.

[shelbar53]

I know this is silly but it has been bothering me. I guess I study the pictures to much.

In a few pics, it looks like casey has 2 front beaver teeth, then in all the other pics, her teeth look beautiful..her smile is very pretty.

This has nothing to do with the case but it just bugs me. Does anyone else that?

[BJames]

No problem Regina...I thought I should ask 'cuz I sure do miss things at times :blink:

My guess would be that any interview that we saw where the Anthony's seemed supportive of Jose Baez, happened when they still thought maybe he was on the 'us' side of 'us and them'. The camp has now been divided between the Anthony's, the law, and team Baez and Casey.
After watching that August interview can anyone even imagine what living in that Anthony home would have been like after Casey was bonded out by Lenny? She sure didn't 'help' anyone with finding Caylee...and my guess is that she didn't tell Cindy nor George anything, saying that Jose wouldn't 'let her'.
If the princess was 'unhappy' after a month in jail at that time...she must be just thrilled by now...and she is looking at a very long time in a cell. My guess is that she is even more 'frushtrated'...

Just my opinion of course...

[WillowInFlight]

I know this is silly but it has been bothering me. I guess I study the pictures to much.

In a few pics, it looks like casey has 2 front beaver teeth, then in all the other pics, her teeth look beautiful..her smile is very pretty.

This has nothing to do with the case but it just bugs me. Does anyone else that?

OMG Shel :lol::lol::lol:

[desmom]

I have been reading the July 24 transcript of George's interview with LE.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/2447571/George-Anthony-July-24-Interview-released-Nov-6-2008

A lot of the interview is LE laying it out for George. George expresses his concern and dislike of JB. On page 51, George questions if JB is in in for the publicity and said "..because it is a nice way to write a book and who knows what..."

jmo

[bchand]

I know this is silly but it has been bothering me. I guess I study the pictures to much.

In a few pics, it looks like casey has 2 front beaver teeth, then in all the other pics, her teeth look beautiful..her smile is very pretty.

This has nothing to do with the case but it just bugs me. Does anyone else that?

I think when she "pans" for the camera with her exaggerated smile, the beaver teeth appear. When she smiles more naturally, they don't.

[nc1948]

The no plea to the kidnappers/nanny was the DING DING DING moment. Which means they knew from the get-go.
The only player in this whole charade that made a plea for Caylee's return was Leonard. Crazy ole' Lenny. The one Casey KICKED out of the house for asking questions.

My first ding ding ding moment was the 30 days. That got my attention. Then the Mother did not even report her missing, but the Grandmother did. Okay another ding ding ding moment. NExt was NO plea to kidnappers on any of the national tv shows. The Mother (questionable) did not make appearances and beg for her daughters return. The Grandparents did all appearances. I have had so many ding ding ding moments that I have become dingy.

[WillowInFlight]

If Baez is investigated & the allegations are found to be true... Baez will be gone for sure.

No doubt about it.

But are they true and can they prove it?

[TisMeAgain]

OMG Shel :lol::lol::lol:

LOL Laffin with willow! I will be in and out all day as I have to work
and get some painting done. Do you think we'll get the doc's today?
I sure hope we do! Also, could Sharkie, Rebbie, and NYGal PM me
please? Thanks! I also wanted to add, I knew Baez was up to something, that's why I kept asking shark all those questions about him.
(shel, you're a hoot!)

DianeA

[jammies]

Don't you hate it when her words are Mishconstrued?


Even better! :thumbsup:

[penguinlady]

My server was down all day yesterday. Did they finally decide on memorial/funeral arrangements for Caylee??

K

[Regina.Lampert]

Hi Reggie - Yesterday someone posted that a visit was scheduled for Thursday HOWEVER, the article they referred to was from August so I don't know if there is a current visit scheduled or not.

Whew, thanks B. I think that's where I mishconstrued....sorry everyone.

[TisMeAgain]

If Baez is investigated & the allegations are found to be true... Baez will be gone for sure.

No doubt about it.

Oh, there's landshark! No need to PM now, I thought you had a new nic. Glad to see you! I had many questions for you yesterday, you just answered the MOST important one I had!

Thanks!

BBL**********

[Motomom]

But are they true and can they prove it?

If it's true, I think they will be able to prove it. imo

[BJames]

If Baez is investigated & the allegations are found to be true... Baez will be gone for sure.

No doubt about it.

A question if I might you wise Shark?

If Baez is 'gone' will he take the 'rights' to Caylee's body, photos etc. with him?

Thanks in advance if you know..

[Pruddennce]

Good morning to all- what I gathered from the conversation with Lee is that Lee actually believed that Casey was sending notes and trying to get information to the family and it was B that was not getting the information to them. IMO- she was not trying to send anything thru Baez but once again whipped the family into believing it was someone elses fault that the supposed information was not being delivered. Just a diversion and it worked on Lee as well.

Lee forgot about his text messages to Cindy. starting at the bottom of handwritten page 1498, 1499, Lee Anthony texting Cindy....advising her that Baez has 'letters from Casey' and also advising Cindy NOT TO MENTION LETTERS FROM CASEY.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1572445/cindy-anthony-cell-phone-report

best regards,
Pru

[trich]

ITA, but whose to blame? Cindy's mom, George's mom? There comes a point where these kids have to have ownership.

Oh I agree there too....Casey made her own choices ....
She is the one that stole, she is the one that lied ...she is the one who killed her own daughter...
I don't believe Cindy and George can be held responsible for Casey killing Caylee....but I do hold them responsible for covering up and lying for her....
I just feel like Casey has been indulged all her life and has never had to learn until now she can not do anything she pleases without consequences.
And yes I do know there are many parents who have tried to do the right thing raising their children only to have some go astray but on the whole teaching right from wrong is the right thing to do and hopefully when your kids make choices they make the right ones but when they make choices whatever they may be they have learned to live with those choices.
then as a parent you can not feel guilty that you didn't try to raise them to be responsible adults.

[Motomom]

A question if I might you wise Shark?

If Baez is 'gone' will he take the 'rights' to Caylee's body, photos etc. with him?

Thanks in advance if you know..

Good question..

[Pat]

Investigations take time, LS.

I guess it's time to bone up on the procedures the FL Bar uses for complaints about members.

(One of the most fascinating trial events I ever watched were the disbarment hearings for Nifong, and it 'twernt easy 'cuz I had to do it on a computer. :laugh:)

[Regina.Lampert]

Reg maybe you saw the post I made yesterday when I posted part of a link saying that the A's "new" visit was still set for thursday referring to the Aug 14th visit as being a scheduled visit from a news report on Aug 11th?

See my post #732 could that be the confusion?
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12675771#post12675771

Thank you J.

note to self, read slower and comprehend what you read. :punch:

[PuffDragon]

<snipped>
On another thought:
Does anyone think it could be possible that Casey does not really know
what Baez is doing and is only getting information from him?
I mean if she is not talking to anyone else .....does she get to watch
the news in Jail?
If she does see/hear the news I would think she would be a little upset
to say the least.
I wonder if she knows the reality of her situation.

She has a radio............

[apothecary]

Good morning everyone.I wonder if Biazz knew early on in this case that it would become as big as it has.I think he has some kind of production company.Do you think there has been some prodding from "big media" to capitalize on this case and keep it going.It is obvious to me that the outcome or final verdict is not important to Biazz as long as he gets the media exposure and money that goes along with it.If Casey had confessed and everything was settled we would not be writing about it as much as we are now.Biazz has to keep the show going.

[WillowInFlight]

It will be easy to prove or disprove the allegations.

Either Baez is making these deals or he's not making these deals.

There's no gray area here.

Thanks Sharkie, Normally I dislike black and white, I like a little gray thrown in. But where Baez is concerned all I see is black. And if you think about it, he fits in so well with this case.

[ishkabibble]

Good morning to all- what I gathered from the conversation with Lee is that Lee actually believed that Casey was sending notes and trying to get information to the family and it was B that was not getting the information to them. IMO- she was not trying to send anything thru Baez but once again whipped the family into believing it was someone elses fault that the supposed information was not being delivered. Just a diversion and it worked on Lee as well.

I totally agree, I think she let Baez take the fall for that (I'm sure he encouraged her to) because she had no intention of answering any questions. She let Lee babble on in their visitation, and let him believe she was cooperating and giving him "clues" when she was just stringing him along. I think one reason Lee is AWOL now is that he KNOWS she used him. He got sucked into the Casey kool-aid and she made him look like an ***.

[jammies]

I totally agree, I think she let Baez take the fall for that (I'm sure he encouraged her to) because she had no intention of answering any questions. She let Lee babble on in their visitation, and let him believe she was cooperating and giving him "clues" when she was just stringing him along. I think one reason Lee is AWOL now is that he KNOWS she used him. He got sucked into the Casey kool-aid and she made him look like an ***.



Yep. An azz that is now seeking immunity. (yet it wasn't THAT long ago that they were high-fiving eachother)

[AJandTam]

That's what I thought ..... so then what happens? Who gets the money from the entertainment deals?

I agree with what someone said last night on one of the shows. It makes you wonder about ineffective counsel. Seems if Baez is involved with these entertainment deals he would want the biggest circus he could muster, a trial with all the media attorneys & media experts. Might not be what's in the best interest for Casey, which just might be pleading guilty. Depends on what he knows. Really makes you wonder about him not wanting Casey to talk to anyone. She is young & could easily be manipulated by him. I hope the judge can get to the bottom of this.

I think she's guilty, but if she were my child I would be livid at an attorney manipulating and giving bad advice, would probably file a complaint with the bar & have him investigated myself. What a mess.


Yep, If he is doing this, and it comes out. Oh my..

[funkyflower]

<snipped>
guess she had enough time now to read the entire Bible...
Oh Good morning to all:loveeyes:

Good morning and I personally thought it was hilerious that she said in one breath she was miserable and kept her head under the covers all day and in another breath she read the Bible all day.

I wonder if she bought a flashlight along with her snacks as well?:rolleyes:

[AJandTam]

Hiya Tam!! Used to be, the Son of Sam law but iirc it was struck down.

ohhhhh I must have missed that. Thanks Reggie.

[WillowInFlight]

Investigations take time, LS.

I guess it's time to bone up on the procedures the FL Bar uses for complaints about members.

(One of the most fascinating trial events I ever watched were the disbarment hearings for Nifong, and it 'twernt easy 'cuz I had to do it on a computer. :laugh:)

That was a prime example of "ego" getting the best of you. What a sheer disgrace that man is.

[Pruddennce]

Pru- thanks for the link- can you explain the extaction start and end date to me on this report? And the dates listed as the send and recieve dates? Thanks

hi Lomar, your welcome. I cant explain a darn thing about that excised report. we have not seen Cindy A, George A and Lee A's complete cell/text records.

yes, early on, notes were being exchanged. The entire family was participating in the exchange as evidenced by the 'captured' and selective 'release' of text messages.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[AJandTam]

That was a prime example of "ego" getting the best of you. What a sheer disgrace that man is.

Hey Willow. Do we know who is tattle tailing on Baez?

[BJames]

Good question.

The first answer that pops in my head is 'yes.'

If Baez is not defending Casey, there is no conflict of interest.

Thanks for your answer...I was thinking the same thing.
If we're lucky maybe Katprint will see the question and add some more to the thought, but my guess is that Mr. Baez has covered his own butt regarding the $ in this case.
And considering Ms. Anthony is of legal age he is not required to inform George and Cindy Anthony of anything pertaining to these matters...he is the legal counsel for his client. And thus far considering what we have seen/heard she sees Jose as her 'saviour'...a white knight coming to protect her and save her from all that she has been 'victim' to...somewhat like a dreamy 15 year old might be with a 'hero' in a novel on a hot summer's night.

Just my opinion of course...

[desmom]

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/
Nancy Grace Special Investigation: The tot mom's web of lies. The entire tot mom police interrogation caught on tape. 8 & 10 p.m. ET

Is this an additional tape or the tape we have already heard? :shrug:

[WillowInFlight]

Hey Willow. Do we know who is tattle tailing on Baez?

Hey sweet pea, Isn't today a wonderful day? A day of hope. I haven't heard, but I do think aside from that if Baez is playing hanky panky, and when Casey loses the battle, she will be singing her lungs out about truths and untruths. IMO

[AJandTam]

Thanks for your answer...I was thinking the same thing.
If we're lucky maybe Katprint will see the question and add some more to the thought, but my guess is that Mr. Baez has covered his own butt regarding the $ in this case.
And considering Ms. Anthony is of legal age he is not required to inform George and Cindy Anthony of anything pertaining to these matters...he is the legal counsel for his client. And thus far considering what we have seen/heard she sees Jose as her 'saviour'...a white knight coming to protect her and save her from all that she has been 'victim' to...somewhat like a dreamy 15 year old might be with a 'hero' in a novel on a hot summer's night.

Just my opinion of course...

I wonder if Baez thinks he is going to make so much money off of this case, that he doesn't care at this point if he can't practice law anymore. Maybe he knows the law isn't really his thing anyways. I don't know. Just a thought.

[BJames]

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/
Nancy Grace Special Investigation: The tot mom's web of lies. The entire tot mom police interrogation caught on tape. 8 & 10 p.m. ET

Is this an additional tape or the tape we have already heard? :shrug:

Morning Desmom...it is the same August visitation that has been circulating for the past few days.
The 'poor' Casey as the victim...phone wielding, bugged eyes..'I'm going to hang up...'...yep, that one.

[AJandTam]

Hey sweet pea, Isn't today a wonderful day? A day of hope. I haven't heard, but I do think aside from that if Baez is playing hanky panky, and when Casey loses the battle, she will be singing her lungs out about truths and untruths. IMO

LOL, You are right. She doesn't give a hoot about her victim, but she sure does like to hollar when she is the victim.

[daHawg]

Lee forgot about his text messages to Cindy. starting at the bottom of handwritten page 1498, 1499, Lee Anthony texting Cindy....advising her that Baez has 'letters from Casey' and also advising Cindy NOT TO MENTION LETTERS FROM CASEY.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1572445/cindy-anthony-cell-phone-report

best regards,
Pru
Thanks for that reminder. So they meet at Baez's office on the night of the 8th to get the "Casey Letters" and then the games begin on the canceling of jail visits etc and then Baez goes to NY on a media blitz and leaves orders with the jail staff that Casey is to have no visitors while he is gone. But the A's have the scheduled visit on the 14th and go, Casey accepts the visit. The A's are "grateful" and seem somewhat surprised she allowed the visit. This also makes it a little more clear to me at least the conversation between George and Casey when he was trying to tell her she is in charge and that Baez works for her and she can make the decisions. Like he was telling her, hey if you want to see us you can he can't tell you that you can't type of thing. But she was just going with whatever Jose is telling her because mom and dad have just "left" her in there and whatever else Jose was filling her head with. IMO. (Not defending Casey at all just understanding more of what is going on with Baez and control)

Link to show cancellation of visits.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17167935/detail.html

[Pat]

"...caught on tape..."?

Makes it sound like some Enquirer photog lurking in the bushes trying to get a scoop. :huh:

There's enough stuff out there that is shocking enough without resorting to this style of publicity for NG's show.

(Apologies to all who love NG, but I really find the way she sensationalizes cases distasteful.)

[?noanswer]

BJ, I just went back and tried to get the post about that visit and I can't find it. I could have sworn I saw where they had a scheduled visit. Did I dream it, did anyone else see that yesterday.

Just disregard until I can find some proof. I apologize if I misread something.

Someone gave a link to an article that stated something about a visit, but that article was before she was arrested for murder. That may be what you are remembering. I know I thought it was going to be a new visit when I read the post with the link before I read the linked info.. JMO

[*MoonRider*]

Hey Willow. Do we know who is tattle tailing on Baez?

I vote for NeJames. :thumbsup:

[Pat]

Hey Willow. Do we know who is tattle tailing on Baez?

LOL!

...would be interesting to find out, wouldn't it?

[desmom]

Morning Desmom...it is the same August visitation that has been circulating for the past few days.
The 'poor' Casey as the victim...phone wielding, bugged eyes..'I'm going to hang up...'...yep, that one.

but, it says The entire tot mom police interrogation caught on tape.

I know we have heard the one from Universal, so I don't think that would have a video. Did LE question Casey in their office at any time? :shrug:

[nc1948]

Investigations take time, LS.

I guess it's time to bone up on the procedures the FL Bar uses for complaints about members.

(One of the most fascinating trial events I ever watched were the disbarment hearings for Nifong, and it 'twernt easy 'cuz I had to do it on a computer. :laugh:)

I am in NC and was very interested in that disbarment hearing. It was fascinating. Every state has its embarrassing moments and that was one of our biggest and worse. And it really did not take a long time. But he was a prosecutor not a defense attorney with an ongoing case. I would think if there were ANY questions about her representation it would be handled quickly.

[martha]

Good morning everyone, just checking in to see if we have anything new today. It may be tomorrow before we get anything. I am always in and out because all you good posters will keep me up to date on things.I can;t keep CAYLEE of my mind and never will. When I post some people don;t understand what I am trying to say so don;t post much just read all you good posters.jmho

[WillowInFlight]

Isn't that one of the big problems in todays society, I believe.

ITA, We all worked for what we wanted, today these kids have everything handed to them. I blame the government for that. LOL:laugh:

[Pat]

I am in NC and was very interested in that disbarment hearing. It was fascinating. Every state has its embarrassing moments and that was one of our biggest and worse. And it really did not take a long time. But he was a prosecutor not a defense attorney with an ongoing case. I would think if there were ANY questions about her representation it would be handled quickly.

That case is the only one where I have ever felt the need to "write" a letter...which I did to several members of the NC Bar Association.

You will be proud to know they responded to each and every one...and promptly.

[?noanswer]

I gather all visits at the jail are taped. Could Baez request video not be released because it would be prejudicial to the defendant?

Thanks, Regina, for your response to my questions earlier.

I just find it so hard to believe some of the more experienced people on this case wouldn't have removed themselves if there is any question of unethical behavior on Baez's part. I was thinking of LKB...but given what I saw with my own two eyes in the Spector case, I guess not. :blink:

He went to court to try and stop them, but the Judge ruled against him. Even though the Judge made the ruling, LE waited quite a while before they released any more. They say they overlooked releasing the 8-14. JB's was claiming that tape would show LE misconduct. I bet he is wishing he never requested it's release. In addition all his deratory remarks about LE just might come back to bite his hinny. Even though, they are supposed to remain impartial, I can't believe that somewhere in the back of their mind if there was a little doubt about his misconduct re entertainment deals, that would be enough to get rid of the doubt. JMO

[apothecary]

I still wonder what Casey meant when she said to Tony L 'if she never gets found,guess who spends eternity in jail.Did she mean she wanted her found alive or did she want her found dead with all the planted evidence to support a kidnapping.She obviously knew she would not be found alive,so what did she mean,unless she meant to say if she ever gets found.......Always puzzled by that statement

[AJandTam]

I vote for NeJames. :thumbsup:

I think Nejames did show some serious ethics and class along the way.. but my best guess would be the A team. They have the most to gain from it.. Maybe even Casey herself. As Baez has messed her up w/many of the choices he's made. I think Tim M might even be fighting back.. that's a stretch though.

[dgfred]

I truly believe that Baez is behind the "no" visits.

I think her and her parents have called a truce and also know that the
'jig is up' regarding even trying to act innocent during a taped visit. I agree her attorney probably has advised her that nothing good can come from a visit... just expose more lies and details. She may have even admitted some kind of accident when she was released for that brief time, heck they have always fallen for her crap before... why not one last time? What is left to say before trial, probably not much.

[?noanswer]

I know this is silly but it has been bothering me. I guess I study the pictures to much.

In a few pics, it looks like casey has 2 front beaver teeth, then in all the other pics, her teeth look beautiful..her smile is very pretty.

This has nothing to do with the case but it just bugs me. Does anyone else that?

I think I know the ones you are referring to. One is kinda a side view with her & Caylee. I think she has on a red outfit. The other thing that most of her smiles really seem fake. It's like Caylee is not even in the picture. You're right, doesn't have anything to do with case, but we women do have our "catty" side. JMO

[nc1948]

"...caught on tape..."?

Makes it sound like some Enquirer photog lurking in the bushes trying to get a scoop. :huh:

There's enough stuff out there that is shocking enough without resorting to this style of publicity for NG's show.

(Apologies to all who love NG, but I really find the way she sensationalizes cases distasteful.)

PAt , I'm with you. I cannot watch her, but posters on here are so great about keeping us informed about what she said. She does at least stay with Caylee even tho what she states is breaking news is stuff we heard 3 days ago. I adhore her use of tot mom. Nancy herself is a tot mom and she has made this a disgusting phrase.
But once again I do appreciate the fact that she keeps this as her number one case just wish she would keep up more with the facts. She does state mistruths and does not go back and correct herself.

[Cury-us Coyote]

I totally agree!!! What would the next steps be to get him removed from this case? What would the prosecution have to do? I wonder if there is proof of the entertainment deals? Thank goodness for Kathi Belich for bringing this to the public's attention. Let's hope there's enough proof in the coming days. I think Mr. Baez should start looking for a another career soon.

Morning NT -

Just becuz I'm a stickler for details, I think credit for the Baez funding reports goes to WFTV9 reporter, Mary Nguyen.
jmo

[BJames]

but, it says The entire tot mom police interrogation caught on tape.

I know we have heard the one from Universal, so I don't think that would have a video. Did LE question Casey in their office at any time? :shrug:

Oooops and don't I read well? :wub:
Sorry.....she said something the same about last night's 'tape'..and it was the August interview...arghhhh sorry again :crying:

[ishkabibble]

My first ding ding ding moment was the 30 days. That got my attention. Then the Mother did not even report her missing, but the Grandmother did. Okay another ding ding ding moment. NExt was NO plea to kidnappers on any of the national tv shows. The Mother (questionable) did not make appearances and beg for her daughters return. The Grandparents did all appearances. I have had so many ding ding ding moments that I have become dingy.

I have heard of so many of these missing children cases that end up as parent killed child and lied initially, I've gotten so jaded that I automatically think "BS story parents killed kid" and I am almost surprised when I am wrong. Very Sad...

[nc1948]

That case is the only one where I have ever felt the need to "write" a letter...which I did to several members of the NC Bar Association.

You will be proud to know they responded to each and every one...and promptly.

OHHHHH I did too. And yes, I got a response and I have been very pleased with the results of his disbarment and conviction. Can Baez be disbarred if there is proof of this.

[jammies]

I have heard of so many of these missing children cases that end up as parent killed child and lied initially, I've gotten so jaded that I automatically think "BS story parents killed kid" and I am almost surprised when I am wrong. Very Sad...


Same with missing wives/mothers. I ALWAYS jump to the conclusion that the hubby did it. Usually, he did.

[WillowInFlight]

I think her and her parents have called a truce and also know that the
'jig is up' regarding even trying to act innocent during a taped visit. I agree her attorney probably has advised her that nothing good can come from a visit... just expose more lies and details. She may have even admitted some kind of accident when she was released for that brief time, heck they have always fallen for her crap before... why not one last time? What is left to say before trial, probably not much.

I will never believe that Cindy and Casey called a truce.

[?noanswer]

But are they true and can they prove it?


Don't know the outcome, but JB will have to spend time trying to defend himself, instead of KC. He won't be receiving any remuneration for that time. Might even have to hire a lawyer for himself!!!

JMO

[AJandTam]

LOL!

...would be interesting to find out, wouldn't it?

Yep, that is definately at the top of my most wanted to know right now. I have a list of questions I most want answers too.

# 1 on the list being WHERE the LE thinks Caylee was actually killed.

#2 Who is the daddy of Caylee

#3 What is the asking of immunity pertaining too.

#4 When do the FBI think the body was dumped, and IF it was ever buried in the Anthony back yard.

#5 Is there a battle going on behind the scenes as to WHO is going to make the most money out of this. Baez or the A's. As Casey won't need much money. She is a goner..

#6 What was the actual motive. In the begining, I thought it was a party lifestyle. Since, i've seen other possible motives. Revenge/Psychotic break and money.

[Roux]

I vote for NeJames. :thumbsup:

I asked that last evening. Mr. Lucky thought it was more likely Mr. Morgan. Whoever it is, I want to know.:drool:

[dgfred]

I will never believe that Cindy and Casey called a truce.

Maybe not a truce, more like a cease fire. Cindy looks completely crushed in the video to me, they still don't want Casey offended, still timidly ask about 'Zanny', there is a smidgen of hope left... but that is it.

[jammies]

Don't know the outcome, but JB will have to spend time trying to defend himself, instead of KC. He won't be receiving any remuneration for that time. Might even have to hire a lawyer for himself!!!

JMO


Maybe his buddy Geraldo will help him out.

[trich]

But are they true and can they prove it?

That is my fear too!
If he indeed is guilty I want him shown up for the person
he really is.


I am afraid he is walking a fine line between truth and justice.
And he will get away with it.

[WillowInFlight]

Maybe not a truce, more like a cease fire. Cindy looks completely crushed in the video to me, they still don't want Casey offended, still timidly ask about 'Zanny', there is a smidgen of hope left... but that is it.

I just don't see it that way, maybe they have come to terms that their daughter is a murderer, but I think they know and have known there is no Zanny and never was. I can only imagine what it must feel like to know in your heart that the child you gave birth to, killed her own.

[Lavenia]

These are the folks and amounts that were contributed to Casey's jail account from 10/18/08-12/11/08. Other than George, do you guys know any of these other sucke, er, contributors?

Robert Uolner- $79.
J. Iley- $8.
Geo. Anthony - $25.
" "-$ 50.
David Rector- $200. (!)
Ginger Thsud- $25.
Michelle Saint C...- $75.
Joyce Story- $100.
Nola Copeland- $50.
R. Haney- $51.26
Geo. Anthony- $50.

[?noanswer]

It's almost like Baez has to prove a negative. If he did make deals, then the information he could give would be proof. If he didn't what could he provide to show that he didn't? Also I wonder if the other players will be called. Koblinsky & Reich both said they could not reveal how they were being paid because they had to sign a confidentiality agreement. This could be a trial unto itself. Just wish we could see it! JMO

[nc1948]

Yep, that is definately at the top of my most wanted to know right now. I have a list of questions I most want answers too.

# 1 on the list being WHERE the LE thinks Caylee was actually killed.

#2 Who is the daddy of Caylee

#3 What is the asking of immunity pertaining too.

#4 When do the FBI think the body was dumped, and IF it was ever buried in the Anthony back yard.

#5 Is there a battle going on behind the scenes as to WHO is going to make the most money out of this. Baez or the A's. As Casey won't need much money. She is a goner..

#6 What was the actual motive. In the begining, I thought it was a party lifestyle. Since, i've seen other possible motives. Revenge/Psychotic break and money.

add mine
#7 What did Lee mean when he asked Casey "is this like last time"

#8 I want Cindy to explain her statement "you will vote Casey mother of the year. This was said after she knew and had covered up Casey stealing from her grandmother, Casey misplacing her own daughter and not reporting it for 30 days, Casey stealing from her.

#9 Why did Casey say "they have not found her clothes yet"

#10 What was said right before Lee and Casey high fived at court house?

[101Spots]

ahem=
Ladies, while discussing this case wander over to one of these department stores early and get free smellies!
"As part of a class action settlement, $175 million worth of free cosmetics products will be distributed to members of the class (see below to determine whether you are a member of the class) for a maximum of seven days, while supplies last, on a first come, first served basis, beginning on January 20, 2009. No rainchecks will be issued. The products will be distributed at stores owned by the Retailer Defendants (see list immediately below)...."
http://www.cosmeticssettlement.com/

Interesting. But I don't see Wal-Mart listed. Does this mean I'm out of luck?

<sigh> Story of my life.......

[WillowInFlight]

These are the folks and amounts that were contributed to Casey's jail account from 10/18/08-12/11/08. Other than George, do you guys know any of these other sucke, er, contributors?

Robert Uolner- $79.
J. Iley- $8.
Geo. Anthony - $25.
" "-$ 50.
David Rector- $200. (!)
Ginger Thsud- $25.
Michelle Saint C...- $75.
Joyce Story- $100.
Nola Copeland- $50.
R. Haney- $51.26
Geo. Anthony- $50.

$51.26 seems like an odd amount.

[Lavenia]

$51.26 seems like an odd amount.

Cleaned under the sofa cushions?

[nc1948]

$51.26 seems like an odd amount.

Is it me or do those names kindof seem fake???

[BJames]

I guess one of the things that made me wonder about Jose keeping his client informed was when she didn't sign a waiver..yet didn't show up in the courtroom the last time.
If an attorney had ever mentioned to me that I had to sign a written waiver not to attend I would have been asking him for it long before the appearance date, especially if I had no intention of showing up...and didn't want to be dragged in by the Judge.
I wonder if that is something that Jose neglected to inform Casey about?...it sure didn't seem like she knew about it, and she clearly didn't want to go as she apparently refused to leave her cell to begin with. If he 'forgot' that...I wonder how many other things he has just decided his client didn't need to know? Hmmmm...

Just my opinion of course..

[Pat]

OHHHHH I did too. And yes, I got a response and I have been very pleased with the results of his disbarment and conviction. Can Baez be disbarred if there is proof of this.


I don't know a thing about how the FL Bar handles complaints, nor do I know what the grounds for disbarment cover.

If things heat up on the accusations against Baez, I think we will sure find out.

If he has behaved unethically, I'm not sure how hard the FL Bar would go after him, given he doesn't work for the State or County.

Nifong went down because he was in public office and tarred the reputation of all attorneys in public office in the entire State. His fellow Bar members pretty much were saying he was 'done for' before the hearings were held. (How do I know this? Gossip and tittle-tattle from a bar member long before the hearings were held. :D )

If, in fact, NeJames filed an official complaint with the Bar, I would think, given his reputation, it would be taken seriously.

MO

[grammie/va]

Kids learn by example. If kids aren't accepting responsibility, it's likely the adults in charge of them aren't either. And/or those adults don't require the kids to step up. imo

Don't post alot but:
ITA and believe this statement.

[?noanswer]

Things like this would not have been read by anyone other than Baez correct? They are priviledged documents and it is not like outgoing mail where it could be read first. JTOL- whew I am so much better at accounting. IMO

Once they are given to a third party, they are no longer priviledged. JMO

[kitty1182]

Is it me or do those names kindof seem fake???

Is that Haney on Green Acres?:lol:

[nc1948]

I guess one of the things that made me wonder about Jose keeping his client informed was when she didn't sign a waiver..yet didn't show up in the courtroom the last time.
If an attorney had ever mentioned to me that I had to sign a written waiver not to attend I would have been asking him for it long before the appearance date, especially if I had no intention of showing up...and didn't want to be dragged in by the Judge.
I wonder if that is something that Jose neglected to inform Casey about?...it sure didn't seem like she knew about it, and she clearly didn't want to go as she apparently refused to leave her cell to begin with. If he 'forgot' that...I wonder how many other things he has just decided his client didn't need to know? Hmmmm...

Just my opinion of course..


I think Mr Baez is definitely not up to par. Whether it is enough to remove him from the case, and how do they do that, and who does it, is beyond me. I have a friend that works in records at the court house. When they were talking about him whineing about paying for copies she was hysterical. She said even law clerks and the public knows that no copy of anything from court records is free. She said she had never heard of that before and doubted any state could afford to make copies free and even then wondered if he would be allowed to continue as counsel since he did not even know the basics

[WillowInFlight]

Is it me or do those names kindof seem fake???

After looking at the names again, you are right.

[WillowInFlight]

Do you think this whole thing with Baez that is why G&C were upset this past Saturday when Gretta was there?

Oh I missed that, did they finally speak?, are they going to honor their grandchild and lay her to rest?, are they finally admitting Casey is a murderer?.

[?noanswer]

Morning NT -

Just becuz I'm a stickler for details, I think credit for the Baez funding reports goes to WFTV9 reporter, Mary Nguyen.
jmo

Being catty again, but that reporter did a very poor job with that interview. It looked like the interviee was getting impatient because it took her forever to give him a question. JMO

[jammies]

Do you think this whole thing with Baez that is why G&C were upset this past Saturday when Gretta was there?


But would they have called LE?

[funkyflower]

Cleaned under the sofa cushions?
Cashed a friend's check?:sneaky:

[?noanswer]

OHHHHH I did too. And yes, I got a response and I have been very pleased with the results of his disbarment and conviction. Can Baez be disbarred if there is proof of this.

I think so. I guess it would depend on the severity. JMO

[ruth66]

I guess one of the things that made me wonder about Jose keeping his client informed was when she didn't sign a waiver..yet didn't show up in the courtroom the last time.
If an attorney had ever mentioned to me that I had to sign a written waiver not to attend I would have been asking him for it long before the appearance date, especially if I had no intention of showing up...and didn't want to be dragged in by the Judge.
I wonder if that is something that Jose neglected to inform Casey about?...it sure didn't seem like she knew about it, and she clearly didn't want to go as she apparently refused to leave her cell to begin with. If he 'forgot' that...I wonder how many other things he has just decided his client didn't need to know? Hmmmm...

Just my opinion of course..

Well, let's just change that around to fit the recent "entertainment deals". What if Baez knew she was going to have to appear and warned her but did this for theatrics? Her hair sure wasn't as greasy and helmet looking for the hearing. She almost looked like she had time to style her hair a little bit. Every jailhouse video we have seen she looks a little unkept. This little "cameo" plays out great for a movie scene and it sure kept us all entertained.

Just a thought and of course MO

[?noanswer]

I don't know a thing about how the FL Bar handles complaints, nor do I know what the grounds for disbarment cover.

If things heat up on the accusations against Baez, I think we will sure find out.

If he has behaved unethically, I'm not sure how hard the FL Bar would go after him, given he doesn't work for the State or County.

Nifong went down because he was in public office and tarred the reputation of all attorneys in public office in the entire State. His fellow Bar members pretty much were saying he was 'done for' before the hearings were held. (How do I know this? Gossip and tittle-tattle from a bar member long before the hearings were held. :D )

If, in fact, NeJames filed an official complaint with the Bar, I would think, given his reputation, it would be taken seriously.

MO

Just recently there were 3 private attys. that lost their license and they are now in jail. Had to do with Katrina and insurance cos. JMO

[happygert]

Good Morning everyone, Any news yet?

[?noanswer]

I think Mr Baez is definitely not up to par. Whether it is enough to remove him from the case, and how do they do that, and who does it, is beyond me. I have a friend that works in records at the court house. When they were talking about him whineing about paying for copies she was hysterical. She said even law clerks and the public knows that no copy of anything from court records is free. She said she had never heard of that before and doubted any state could afford to make copies free and even then wondered if he would be allowed to continue as counsel since he did not even know the basics

Wonder how big a part KC will play in this. If she says she knew this all along, has no problem with it and still wants him to be her atty., would he be allowed to continue everything as it is. JMO

[WillowInFlight]

Cashed a friend's check?:sneaky:

:laugh::laugh:

[Stella Rose]

Well, I have asked this question a few times, and every time I did, some major news broke and my post was lost in the barrage. I’ll throw this out again and see if we get a document dump or something bigger...

Stupid question I know, but it is still bugging me. When everyone talks about Casey partying after Caylee went missing, they say she was dancing on a stripper pole. I have seen the pictures of her dancing, but have never seen a pole. Is Nancy just exaggerating or are there other photos I missed? Thank you.

[Cury-us Coyote]

I totally agree, I think she let Baez take the fall for that (I'm sure he encouraged her to) because she had no intention of answering any questions. She let Lee babble on in their visitation, and let him believe she was cooperating and giving him "clues" when she was just stringing him along. I think one reason Lee is AWOL now is that he KNOWS she used him. He got sucked into the Casey kool-aid and she made him look like an ***.

Is LA the CEO of Middle Finger Management and a graduate of the Duckett School of manipulating LE and the media?

[?noanswer]

Gonna jump in here- not knowing of Baez personally and hoping that I don't ever find myself in a position that I would need to- do we think that LKB and associates would involve themselves with an attorney that has the potential of being barred? IMOO

Don't know, but if they all start jumping ship in the near future, we'll know there is probably something to these allegations. JMO

[Elle]

I still wonder what Casey meant when she said to Tony L 'if she never gets found,guess who spends eternity in jail.Did she mean she wanted her found alive or did she want her found dead with all the planted evidence to support a kidnapping.She obviously knew she would not be found alive,so what did she mean,unless she meant to say if she ever gets found.......Always puzzled by that statement


Ah, yes. Another fine example displaying Casey's selfless motherly love. where she didn't even try to fake interest in Caylee's wellbeing.

CASEY 'spend my time looking up stuff for my case, because that needs to be my priority'

CINDY 'our priority is Caylee'

CASEY 'I need to be seen as a victim in this'

CASEY ' I have no one to comfort me'

CINDY to 911 dispatcher ' I need to find my grandaughter'

CASEY 'what do they want to talk to me for?'

911 ' why didn't you call 31 days ago?'

CASEY 'All they care about is finding Caylee'

CHRISTINA CHESTERTON ' If anything happened to that baby, I'll die, do you hear me, I'll die'

CASEY 'Oh my God, calling you guys...huge waste'

[Lavenia]

Cashed a friend's check?:sneaky:

Ohhh, SNAP! :laugh:

[marshmallow]

These are the folks and amounts that were contributed to Casey's jail account from 10/18/08-12/11/08. Other than George, do you guys know any of these other sucke, er, contributors?

Robert Uolner- $79.
J. Iley- $8.
Geo. Anthony - $25.
" "-$ 50.
David Rector- $200. (!)
Ginger Thsud- $25.
Michelle Saint C...- $75.
Joyce Story- $100.
Nola Copeland- $50.
R. Haney- $51.26
Geo. Anthony- $50.



$51.26 is more like an ebay bid that a jail acct. donation.

[ruth66]

Is LA the CEO of Middle Finger Management and a graduate of the Duckett School of manipulating LE and the media?

You are so good with that! Love it

[Pat]

Just recently there were 3 private attys. that lost their license and they are now in jail. Had to do with Katrina and insurance cos. JMO

Interesting...were they in NW FL?

[Elle]

These are the folks and amounts that were contributed to Casey's jail account from 10/18/08-12/11/08. Other than George, do you guys know any of these other sucke, er, contributors?

Robert Uolner- $79.
J. Iley- $8.
Geo. Anthony - $25.
" "-$ 50.
David Rector- $200. (!)
Ginger Thsud- $25.
Michelle Saint C...- $75.
Joyce Story- $100.
Nola Copeland- $50.
R. Haney- $51.26
Geo. Anthony- $50.

I believe the one for $51.26 is from one of the bondsman that bailed her out after Lenny and his nephew Tony.
imo

[cuddlyrunner]

Afternoon all, another day of school survived!

Any news on the document dump?

I'm following quite a good myspace blog on the case-am I allowed to post the link on here?

[AbbyNormal]

Well, let's just change that around to fit the recent "entertainment deals". What if Baez knew she was going to have to appear and warned her but did this for theatrics? Her hair sure wasn't as greasy and helmet looking for the hearing. She almost looked like she had time to style her hair a little bit. Every jailhouse video we have seen she looks a little unkept. This little "cameo" plays out great for a movie scene and it sure kept us all entertained.

Just a thought and of course MOInteresting........maybe a lot of things not what they seem....

Good food for thought!

Good morning everyone

[kitty1182]

Yes Ms. Gert. We are mere minutes away from a new president!
:thumbsup:

:patriot:.................


Hoping for some new docs soon..

[ishkabibble]

I will never believe that Cindy and Casey called a truce.

i don't think they have had any communiction since the Aug 14 visitation. they realized she was all about her defense, no concern for Caylee and no info about Caylee. Now that Caylee is confirmed dead, do you think she wants them there to ask questions, of course not. She probably couldn't even whip up a tear for her dead daughter.

Even though I think George and Cindy will publicly support whatever defense Baez puts on (unless it's that they did it LOL) they know the truth. I think it is a relief to them that they don't have to make excuses for not visiting her. I don't think they really want to see her.

[Zarina]

Adding up the deposits made to casey's account during one month, is $613.26

Am I wrong to say that she has exceeded the limit of what she's allowed to have in her jail account at one time?

[happygert]

OH really? ...hummmmmm

[?noanswer]

Interesting...were they in NW FL?

No, Mississippi. JMO

[Lavenia]

Adding up the deposits made to casey's account during one month, is $613.26

Am I wrong to say that she has exceeded the limit of what she's allowed to have in her jail account at one time?

Zarina, this is from 10/11-12/18, and she made a lot of purchases in that time, too.

[CelticDawn]

$51.26 seems like an odd amount.

seems odd to me too, but here, pwople are allowed to make outside purchases for inmates <a sweatshirt for example> from department stores. It has to go from the point of purchase directly to the inmate. Is that allowed in OC jail??....That would explain it if so.

[?noanswer]

Adding up the deposits made to casey's account during one month, is $613.26

Am I wrong to say that she has exceeded the limit of what she's allowed to have in her jail account at one time?

She was spending it; therefore kept the balance down. JMO

[Lavenia]

I believe the one for $51.26 is from one of the bondsman that bailed her out after Lenny and his nephew Tony.
imo

Thanks, Elle! Now I know who to call to ask, "why the oddball amount"!

[desmom]

Adding up the deposits made to casey's account during one month, is $613.26

Am I wrong to say that she has exceeded the limit of what she's allowed to have in her jail account at one time?

It doesn't sound like there is a limit.. http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-jail1009jan10,0,3323490.story jmo

[Zarina]

Zarina, this is from 10/11-12/18, and she made a lot of purchases in that time, too.

Right you are. Thanks. I see now that its for a 2 month period.

[dgfred]

i don't think they have had any communiction since the Aug 14 visitation. they realized she was all about her defense, no concern for Caylee and no info about Caylee. Now that Caylee is confirmed dead, do you think she wants them there to ask questions, of course not. She probably couldn't even whip up a tear for her dead daughter.

Even though I think George and Cindy will publicly support whatever defense Baez puts on (unless it's that they did it LOL) they know the truth. I think it is a relief to them that they don't have to make excuses for not visiting her. I don't think they really want to see her.


That seems about right.

[Pat]

Well, I did a brief google to see how "transparent" Florida is with lawyers who step over the line.

First thing I clicked on:

Florida Disbars Five Attorneys, Suspends 16 (in 2007)

Guess they do go after them and they make it public. Not good for Baez if he has been unethical.

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/2007/040507FloridaDisbars.html

[PROPROS]

That was a prime example of "ego" getting the best of you. What a sheer disgrace that man is.Morning all.....So does Jose have aspirations of being a "star".! You'll be great , you'll be swell, gonna have the whole world by the tail"..:rolleyes:mo

[CelticDawn]

i don't think they have had any communiction since the Aug 14 visitation. they realized she was all about her defense, no concern for Caylee and no info about Caylee. Now that Caylee is confirmed dead, do you think she wants them there to ask questions, of course not. She probably couldn't even whip up a tear for her dead daughter.

Even though I think George and Cindy will publicly support whatever defense Baez puts on (unless it's that they did it LOL) they know the truth. I think it is a relief to them that they don't have to make excuses for not visiting her. I don't think they really want to see her.


I have to say this....as much as I despise that little ____ Casey....Would ANYONE here want to have to face your parents KNOWING that THEY KNOW that YOU are a soulless murderer ...and of your OWN CHILD no les??

I think this avoidance goes deeper that baez...geraldo or any other random static.

[happygert]

But would they have called LE?

It only makes sense that they would have called... they dont want anyone else making money off of Caylee...

[WillowInFlight]

Morning all.....So does Jose have aspirations of being a "star".! You'll be great , you'll be swell, gonna have the whole world by the tail"..:rolleyes:mo

:laugh: Can't wait to jump on that band wagon. :laugh:

[CelticDawn]

Well, I did a brief google to see how "transparent" Florida is with lawyers who step over the line.

First thing I clicked on:

Florida Disbars Five Attorneys, Suspends 16 (in 2007)

Guess they do go after them and they make it public. Not good for Baez if he has been unethical.

http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/2007/040507FloridaDisbars.html

I'll be 80 years old and still checking that list for Baezs name....The man always gave me the willies.

[?noanswer]

It only makes sense that they would have called... they dont want anyone else making money off of Caylee...

That's true, but they really do not have any standing in this except for creating the monster that did the murder. Legally, KC is of age and has control of defense. Course, I think she could easily be manipulated, especially by the only male that she has the most contact with. JMO

[Ladyhawk]

Thanks, Elle! Now I know who to call to ask, "why the oddball amount"!

IIRC the amount was an overcharge/refund for something and the BB had the amount applied to her account.

[ishkabibble]

Ah, yes. Another fine example displaying Casey's selfless motherly love. where she didn't even try to fake interest in Caylee's wellbeing.

CASEY 'spend my time looking up stuff for my case, because that needs to be my priority'

CINDY 'our priority is Caylee'

CASEY 'I need to be seen as a victim in this'

CASEY ' I have no one to comfort me'

CINDY to 911 dispatcher ' I need to find my grandaughter'

CASEY 'what do they want to talk to me for?'

911 ' why didn't you call 31 days ago?'

CASEY 'All they care about is finding Caylee'

CHRISTINA CHESTERTON ' If anything happened to that baby, I'll die, do you hear me, I'll die'

CASEY 'Oh my God, calling you guys...huge waste'

that comment about her being seen as a victim in this is straight out of Baez's mouth. I think he said that exact thing in his press conference. he is egging her on in her belief that she is being victimized and by doing so any chance of her ever putting Caylee first was gone. And why would he put Caylee first, he has to have known she was dead form the beginning. If Casey didn't tell him, he only had to look at the evidence to know it.

[daHawg]

Well, I have asked this question a few times, and every time I did, some major news broke and my post was lost in the barrage. I’ll throw this out again and see if we get a document dump or something bigger...

Stupid question I know, but it is still bugging me. When everyone talks about Casey partying after Caylee went missing, they say she was dancing on a stripper pole. I have seen the pictures of her dancing, but have never seen a pole. Is Nancy just exaggerating or are there other photos I missed? Thank you.
Yes there is a pole. Pic #17. I believe this was before Caylee was missing though not after.

http://mj.933flz.com/cc-common/gallery/display.html?album_id=130758

[WillowInFlight]

that comment about her being seen as a victim in this is straight out of Baez's mouth. I think he said that exact thing in his press conference. he is egging her on in her belief that she is being victimized and by doing so any chance of her ever putting Caylee first was gone. And why would he put Caylee first, he has to have known she was dead form the beginning. If Casey didn't tell him, he only had to look at the evidence to know it.

ITA, but I can't put the words Casey and victim in the same sentence.

[PROPROS]

seems odd to me too, but here, pwople are allowed to make outside purchases for inmates <a sweatshirt for example> from department stores. It has to go from the point of purchase directly to the inmate. Is that allowed in OC jail??....That would explain it if so.
Thats the way it's done here in california prisons. In the County system they can have tennis shoes from the outside but,everyone wears "county blues" or if your PC you wear red...The prisons here will only allow an inmate to wear sweat clothes in the colors of white,grey or black...No Blue or Red (gang colors) and no green (deputies).mo

[cloe23]

I guess one of the things that made me wonder about Jose keeping his client informed was when she didn't sign a waiver..yet didn't show up in the courtroom the last time.
If an attorney had ever mentioned to me that I had to sign a written waiver not to attend I would have been asking him for it long before the appearance date, especially if I had no intention of showing up...and didn't want to be dragged in by the Judge.
I wonder if that is something that Jose neglected to inform Casey about?...it sure didn't seem like she knew about it, and she clearly didn't want to go as she apparently refused to leave her cell to begin with. If he 'forgot' that...I wonder how many other things he has just decided his client didn't need to know? Hmmmm...

Just my opinion of course..

ITA! I know I for one have never read even one article or opinion that Jose has done something good for his client. I wonder if he will be the one running the show during trial or if one of the experts will?
Didn't Casey get his number off the jail wall or from another inmate?
For the sake of appellate issues I hope one of the experts will step in and run this show, even if they are working pro-bono.

[PROPROS]

that comment about her being seen as a victim in this is straight out of Baez's mouth. I think he said that exact thing in his press conference. he is egging her on in her belief that she is being victimized and by doing so any chance of her ever putting Caylee first was gone. And why would he put Caylee first, he has to have known she was dead form the beginning. If Casey didn't tell him, he only had to look at the evidence to know it.Perhaps from Baez to Casey and Casey to Cindy...We did hear Cindy call Casey "a victim" a few times during her interviews with the press.mo

[happygert]

I'll be 80 years old and still checking that list for Baezs name....The man always gave me the willies.

:lol:........

[daHawg]

Adding up the deposits made to casey's account during one month, is $613.26

Am I wrong to say that she has exceeded the limit of what she's allowed to have in her jail account at one time?
IIRC the max limit is $500. But if she is spending money out of the acct. during the month it would stay below that amount. I believe her avg order was in the neighborhood of $40-$70 each time. IMO.

[Pruddennce]

Things like this would not have been read by anyone other than Baez correct? They are priviledged documents and it is not like outgoing mail where it could be read first. JTOL- whew I am so much better at accounting. IMO

sorry, once again, I dont have a clue if what he 'passed' back and forth would necessarily be filtered by him unless his client authorized him to do so to 'check her lingo for leaks' lol

can he annoint himself 'a mail carrier'? I dont know the law as to that activity while a person is in jail. IMO, I would think anything he brings in for her to 'receive and keep' would have to be checked out first, even letters from outsiders?

perhaps he let her read things and didnt leave the 'communications' with her to keep personally.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[PROPROS]

:lol:........I have stated previously that the "whole lot" is missing an "appropriate behavior" chip..Baez has been reprimanded in court,numerous times. He has been warned 2X to keep his hands off Casey......and now he may be trying to make "showbiz" deals. Where is his common sense!mo

[apothecary]

Elle you are right .Now I see what she meant..The old "they are going to pin this on me"..no concern for her missing daughter.No "I am worried about her,"Just how is this going to affect me me me.

[happygert]

IIRC the max limit is $500. But if she is spending money out of the acct. during the month it would stay below that amount. I believe her avg order was in the neighborhood of $40-$70 each time. IMO.

How does she heat up the chilli and things like that? Does the jailer heat it up for her?

[WillowInFlight]

How does she heat up the chilli and things like that? Does the jailer heat it up for her?

LOL, thats what I was wondering. Seems like she has the life of Reilly.

[daHawg]

How does she heat up the chilli and things like that? Does the jailer heat it up for her?

I believe they come in pouches and they run them under hot water from their sink in their cell to warm them up.

[?noanswer]

I believe they come in pouches and they run them under hot water from their sink in their cell to warm them up.

Using all that hot water could become expensive! Not doing anything to help preserve the green earth. JMO

[PROPROS]

How does she heat up the chilli and things like that? Does the jailer heat it up for her?If she was in a regular dorm,she could go to the day room and they have hot water. Since she is PC...she can ask a dep to do it for her...You can use hot tap water...but, that would never be hot enough to melt all the spice packets in the noodle soups and chilis.Lets face it there not that tasty to begin with.mo

[?noanswer]

If she was in a regular dorm,she could go to the day room and they have hot water. Since she is PC...she can ask a dep to do it for her...You can use hot tap water...but, that would never be hot enough to melt all the spice packets in the noodle soups and chilis.Lets face it there not that tasty to begin with.mo


Well, we don't want her to get used to the "finer" things in life like good hot food!! I wish she would have to eat it cold. JMO

[?noanswer]

The new President is giving his acceptance speech. Wonder if posting will increase when he is thru. Sure hope they do a document dump! JMO

[WillowInFlight]

Well, we don't want her to get used to the "finer" things in life like good hot food!! I wish she would have to eat it cold. JMO

I wonder how thats working for her, She always appeared on the spoiled side. She would probably have a stroke if they cut out her orders.