TUESDAY MORNING JAN. 20th Part 1 [Archive] - Page 2

happygert

01-20-2009, 01:19 PM

I have stated previously that the "whole lot" is missing an "appropriate behavior" chip..Baez has been reprimanded in court,numerous times. He has been warned 2X to keep his hands off Casey......and now he may be trying to make "showbiz" deals. Where is his common sense!mo

You Know PROPROS, I have a niece thats very intelligent.. Very high IQ.. But the girl doesn't have a lick of common sense.. NOT A LICK!
. IMO C and C both have narcissistic personalities..As far as baez what can I say....Just wondering how with all this flub ups how he passed his bar? Just wonder if he's not like my neice...Book smart but not a lick of common sense.. Or is it possible that the casey kool aid has made him toss everything he learned out the window?.....It's mind boggling...:unsure:

daHawg

01-20-2009, 01:19 PM

Using all that hot water could become expensive! Not doing anything to help preserve the green earth. JMO

They do not have the water set very "hot" and they don't get unlimited "hot" water so they can use a wash cloth as a stopper so to speak and fill their little sink and warm their pouch that way. It is very luke warm at best. I haven't been to a FL county jail so I can only speak of the county jails that I have witnessed (not as an inmate). :tongue:

?noanswer

01-20-2009, 01:19 PM

He sure sounds promising.

Just hope everything will improve, especially the economy. It's so sad to see people loosing their homes. JMO

?noanswer

01-20-2009, 01:22 PM

Kathlb

01-20-2009, 01:22 PM

ITA, We all worked for what we wanted, today these kids have everything handed to them. I blame the government for that. LOL:laugh:

LOL Willow. The hardest thing I think I ever had to do, (but I did it) was when my eldest son was sluffing off and not doing his homework in High School. I warned him 3 times that if he didn't get his homework done and his grades fell because of that (not from having trouble with it) that he was out of football until next season. We lived in Texas, he was one of the top players and you might guess how popular my decision was. :-) He didn't listen and I pulled him. He couldn't believe it, the coach was on the phone begging me and I held fast. He never did that again. :wink: It was hard, but I had to make him responsible for his actions. Another time my middle son joined band and played the tuba. Halfway through the year (he was the only tuba player) he got tired of it and wanted to quit. I reminded him that he chose it, they depended on him and he had to not be a quitter and finish out the year first. He hated it but did it and got a 1 at contest. I was known as the drill sergeant mother and I know they wanted to trade me in many times LOL, but now that they are grown and very successful, they both have told me that if I hadn't done those types of things, they wouldn't be where they are today. So that makes a mom's heart sing. Might seem OT, but it's not. Casey never had that type of upbringing I don't believe. Not an excuse for her cold hearted killing at all, but it may have helped guide her a bit better. JMHO

need2no

01-20-2009, 01:23 PM

They do not have the water set very "hot" and they don't get unlimited "hot" water so they can use a wash cloth as a stopper so to speak and fill their little sink and warm their pouch that way. It is very luke warm at best. I haven't been to a FL county jail so I can only speak of the county jails that I have witnessed (not as an inmate). :tongue:

Makes sense, since scalding hot water could be used as a weapon.

ruth66

01-20-2009, 01:24 PM

You Know PROPROS, I have a niece thats very intelligent.. Very high IQ.. But the girl doesn't have a lick of common sense.. NOT A LICK!
. IMO C and C both have narcissistic personalities..As far as baez what can I say....Just wondering how with all this flub ups how he passed his bar? Just wonder if he's not like my neice...Book smart but not a lick of common sense.. Or is it possible that the casey kool aid has made him toss everything he learned out the window?.....It's mind boggling...:unsure:

Not for a minute am I going to believe that Baez has book smarts. He passed the bar and should have only been a traffic ticket kind of lawyer. He is waaaaayyyy over his head and not book smart enough to know it. He couldn't have found a better client...
JMO

CelticDawn

01-20-2009, 01:25 PM

re: Inmate Anthony's account

Last week on the links thread I read an article that said that she had received to donations, one from a man in Marlboro (sp) Australia and another from closer to home like one of the Carolinas.

IIRC
JMO

If that works like it does here....Those donations could be from anyone....as long as they are sent via a money order. You dont have to show ID to purcchase a MO and pay cash for it. I surely wouldn't send anything to anyone in my own name...too easy for others to stalk you or some other mishap...

happygert

01-20-2009, 01:25 PM

Probably like the old saying "Money or love of money is the root of all evil". We have seen so much of that recently in this economy.

yes...ita.....

aubrey04

01-20-2009, 01:25 PM

IIRC the max limit is $500. But if she is spending money out of the acct. during the month it would stay below that amount. I believe her avg order was in the neighborhood of $40-$70 each time. IMO.

That's so weird because someone posted an article a few weeks back which talked about commissary funds in inmates accounts and they listed some of the ones with the highest amounts..people with like $5,000-6,000.. but maybe that is once they're in the Florida prison system..not sure. I will have to find the article later..

Pooh

01-20-2009, 01:26 PM

LOL Willow. The hardest thing I think I ever had to do, (but I did it) was when my eldest son was sluffing off and not doing his homework in High School. I warned him 3 times that if he didn't get his homework done and his grades fell because of that (not from having trouble with it) that he was out of football until next season. We lived in Texas, he was one of the top players and you might guess how popular my decision was. :-) He didn't listen and I pulled him. He couldn't believe it, the coach was on the phone begging me and I held fast. He never did that again. :wink: It was hard, but I had to make him responsible for his actions. Another time my middle son joined band and played the tuba. Halfway through the year (he was the only tuba player) he got tired of it and wanted to quit. I reminded him that he chose it, they depended on him and he had to not be a quitter and finish out the year first. He hated it but did it and got a 1 at contest. I was known as the drill sergeant mother, but now that they are grown and very successful, they both have told me that if I hadn't done those types of things, they wouldn't be where they are today. So that makes a mom's heart sing. Might seem OT, but it's not. Casey never had that type of upbringing I don't believe. Not an excuse for her cold hearted killing at all, but it may have helped guide her a bit better. JMHO

Great story!! I have two sons and neither get a pass. You gotta stay on top of boys especially. Cindy and George let Casey run them and she's still doing it from her jail cell. Unbelievable. Some parents just don't get it.

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 01:26 PM

You Know PROPROS, I have a niece thats very intelligent.. Very high IQ.. But the girl doesn't have a lick of common sense.. NOT A LICK!
. IMO C and C both have narcissistic personalities..As far as baez what can I say....Just wondering how with all this flub ups how he passed his bar? Just wonder if he's not like my neice...Book smart but not a lick of common sense.. Or is it possible that the casey kool aid has made him toss everything he learned out the window?.....It's mind boggling...:unsure:First off, he went from complete anonymity to being on every cable news show in America in a matter of two days...Becoming friends with GR,flying to NY, having people recognize him..etc...IMO, he has a huge ego and he doesn't care if the publicity he craves is negative or positive.In fact..IMO, it is going to be difficult for all the players (in this case) to give up the limelight. We know that Casey "loved" being out on bond, walking around with her "media coverage" notebook.mo

happygert

01-20-2009, 01:27 PM

Not for a minute am I going to believe that Baez has book smarts. He passed the bar and should have only been a traffic ticket kind of lawyer. He is waaaaayyyy over his head and not book smart enough to know it. He couldn't have found a better client...
JMO

If you dont have common sense book smarts are not going to do you any good.....I TA.. AND this case is way over his head...

happygert

01-20-2009, 01:29 PM

Not for a minute am I going to believe that Baez has book smarts. He passed the bar and should have only been a traffic ticket kind of lawyer. He is waaaaayyyy over his head and not book smart enough to know it. He couldn't have found a better client...
JMO

Just had a thought maybe he's working his way to be entertainment lawyer.........:lol:

Pooh

01-20-2009, 01:29 PM

First off, he went from complete anonymity to being on every cable news show in America in a matter of two days...Becoming friends with GR,flying to NY, having people recognize him..etc...IMO, he has a huge ego and he doesn't care if the publicity he craves is negative or positive.In fact..IMO, it is going to be difficult for all the players (in this case) to give up the limelight. We know that Casey "loved" being out on bond, walking around with her "media coverage" notebook.mo

I wish someone in the media would dig up some of his law school "friends". They must have some funny stories about Baez. You could count on it. :)

happygert

01-20-2009, 01:31 PM

First off, he went from complete anonymity to being on every cable news show in America in a matter of two days...Becoming friends with GR,flying to NY, having people recognize him..etc...IMO, he has a huge ego and he doesn't care if the publicity he craves is negative or positive.In fact..IMO, it is going to be difficult for all the players (in this case) to give up the limelight. We know that Casey "loved" being out on bond, walking around with her "media coverage" notebook.mo

ITA and lets not forget the MONEY... They all seem to be making it hand over fist...in one way or the other.........except of course like the rest of us do.. working for it...

ruth66

01-20-2009, 01:32 PM

Just had a thought maybe he's working his way to be entertainment lawyer.........:lol:

We do need a male celebrity lawyer, Gloria Allred can't do all....
:sneaky:

daHawg

01-20-2009, 01:33 PM

That's so weird because someone posted an article a few weeks back which talked about commissary funds in inmates accounts and they listed some of the ones with the highest amounts..people with like $5,000-6,000.. but maybe that is once they're in the Florida prison system..not sure. I will have to find the article later..

OK I read it wrong. It says that deposits can not be in the excess of $500 without prior approval, which makes since, since it also says that the inmates accts are for commissary purchases, medical and dental services too. So if you need medical or dental you could need 5k or 6k in your acct! Nice to know that the taxpayers don't have to foot those bills.
http://www.orangecountyfl.net/NR/rdonlyres/etdzwhmaxwnbneyprn37lt6f655binungt6zznjzo3pszie4hz ny4nhfbcfaf4n2n7zduobhsn6oe2b5wcbuj3gosjg/InmatePropertyBrochureREV117.pdf

Elle

01-20-2009, 01:33 PM

that comment about her being seen as a victim in this is straight out of Baez's mouth. I think he said that exact thing in his press conference. he is egging her on in her belief that she is being victimized and by doing so any chance of her ever putting Caylee first was gone. And why would he put Caylee first, he has to have known she was dead form the beginning. If Casey didn't tell him, he only had to look at the evidence to know it.

Thank you for the correction, I thought CAsey said those words, what Casey did say was that she is as much a victim as everyone else.

You are correct, I am sure Baez is egging her on, though I believe she has played the victim card many many times, thrives on getting people to view her in that light. I think to her story she told George about working at her non existing job at Sports Authority, the one where she was robbed at gunpoint, but that she is fine and everything is all set. She needed George to see her as a victim, possibly even was hoping he would insist that she quit that God awful dangerous 'job'.
Same with his 'almost stroke', she wanted to get out of something with Amy, so she told Amy this lie to gain Amy's sympathy, so now not only did she get out of going with Amy, she was now felt sorry for.
Not only did her Claim of leaving Caylee at Sawgrass, not go over well, it did not gain her the sympathy or victim status she wanted, so her story has now changed (allegedly) to fighting with the kidnappers while they pulled Caylee away and drove off, here in this story, not only does she think it sounds more marketable, but it portrays her as a victim.

completely MOO

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 01:33 PM

LOL Willow. The hardest thing I think I ever had to do, (but I did it) was when my eldest son was sluffing off and not doing his homework in High School. I warned him 3 times that if he didn't get his homework done and his grades fell because of that (not from having trouble with it) that he was out of football until next season. We lived in Texas, he was one of the top players and you might guess how popular my decision was. :-) He didn't listen and I pulled him. He couldn't believe it, the coach was on the phone begging me and I held fast. He never did that again. :wink: It was hard, but I had to make him responsible for his actions. Another time my middle son joined band and played the tuba. Halfway through the year (he was the only tuba player) he got tired of it and wanted to quit. I reminded him that he chose it, they depended on him and he had to not be a quitter and finish out the year first. He hated it but did it and got a 1 at contest. I was known as the drill sergeant mother and I know they wanted to trade me in many times LOL, but now that they are grown and very successful, they both have told me that if I hadn't done those types of things, they wouldn't be where they are today. So that makes a mom's heart sing. Might seem OT, but it's not. Casey never had that type of upbringing I don't believe. Not an excuse for her cold hearted killing at all, but it may have helped guide her a bit better. JMHO

Great post Kath, what ever happened to the days when the parents said "you want it, you earn it"? Though I have to ask myself, if Cindy and George used a different kind of parenting, would Caylee be alive today?

happygert

01-20-2009, 01:34 PM

We do need a male celebrity lawyer, Gloria Allred can't do all....
:sneaky:

lol..............

marshmallow

01-20-2009, 01:34 PM

snipped>>> I was known as the drill sergeant mother and I know they wanted to trade me in many times LOL, but now that they are grown and very successful, they both have told me that if I hadn't done those types of things, they wouldn't be where they are today. So that makes a mom's heart sing. Might seem OT, but it's not. Casey never had that type of upbringing I don't believe. Not an excuse for her cold hearted killing at all, but it may have helped guide her a bit better. JMHO

I told my two it was a Momocracy and like your's mine thank me now for being a b-word. It seemed harsh then but "buddy" wasn't in the parenting job description so I followed through. I told someone recently that we should raise our children to be the type of people we want to have as next door neighbors. I stand by that. Cindy and George did make mistakes but we all do, I just don't think they ever thought things would end up at this point :( no matter the mistakes they made, I feel for them.

CelticDawn

01-20-2009, 01:35 PM

If you dont have common sense book smarts are not going to do you any good.....I TA.. AND this case is way over his head...

When you have no common sense, limited book smarts, a big ego, and are LAZY well.....He should be the poster child.

He Casey and geraldo deserve each other.

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 01:35 PM

Just had a thought maybe he's working his way to be entertainment lawyer.........:lol:

LOL I just can't picture a male lawyer wearing a turtleneck 12 months out of the year.

ruth66

01-20-2009, 01:35 PM

Thank you for the correction, I thought CAsey said those words, what Casey did say was that she is as much a victim as everyone else.

You are correct, I am sure Baez is egging her on, though I believe she has played the victim card many many times, thrives on getting people to view her in that light. I think to her story she told George about working at her non existing job at Sports Authority, the one where she was robbed at gunpoint, but that she is fine and everything is all set. She needed George to see her as a victim, possibly even was hoping he would insist that she quit that God awful dangerous 'job'.
Same with his 'almost stroke', she wanted to get out of something with Amy, so she told Amy this lie to gain Amy's sympathy, so now not only did she get out of going with Amy, she was now felt sorry for.
Not only did her Claim of leaving Caylee at Sawgrass, not go over well, it did not gain her the sympathy or victim status she wanted, so her story has now changed (allegedly) to fighting with the kidnappers while they pulled Caylee away and drove off, here in this story, not only does she think it sounds more marketable, but it portrays her as a victim.

completely MOO

ITA..good points all of them......

aubrey04

01-20-2009, 01:37 PM

I was over at the links trying to find the on I referred to, instead I found this.

Cury or Blu should credited for the link.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/food/orl-jail1009jan10,0,759970.story

Pretty amazing to me, the amount of money flowing around in jails.

JMO

Thank you, 2witchy.. I was just talking about that story. Yes, it's incredible. One man has more than $8,000 in his account. I might be in the minority but I really don't have an issue with it. As stated in the article, it adds revenue to the jail system.. As long as Casey is tucked away behind bars, I could care less what she eats.. As long as the tax payers aren't paying for expensive items - she can eat all the Reeses peanut butter cups she desires.

She just needs to stay in the clink until her time on earth has expired. imo.

aubrey04

01-20-2009, 01:39 PM

OK I read it wrong. It says that deposits can not be in the excess of $500 without prior approval, which makes since, since it also says that the inmates accts are for commissary purchases, medical and dental services too. So if you need medical or dental you could need 5k or 6k in your acct! Nice to know that the taxpayers don't have to foot those bills.
http://www.orangecountyfl.net/NR/rdonlyres/etdzwhmaxwnbneyprn37lt6f655binungt6zznjzo3pszie4hz ny4nhfbcfaf4n2n7zduobhsn6oe2b5wcbuj3gosjg/InmatePropertyBrochureREV117.pdf

No problemo! And I agree with your post. As long as it takes some burden off the tax payers and the county/state - that's okay by me.

aubrey04

01-20-2009, 01:41 PM

Aubrey- I think the article was talking about some other states.

JMO

Well, one man was from California, but this one was in Florida:

Kenneth Reeves, 50, who was convicted in October of armed burglary and other charges and sentenced to 35 years, had nearly $7,000 on him when he was arrested in June 2007. That money went with him when he was transferred to the Florida DOC.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/food/orl-jail1009jan10,0,759970.story

daHawg

01-20-2009, 01:42 PM

No problemo! And I agree with your post. As long as it takes some burden off the tax payers and the county/state - that's okay by me.

Me too!:thumbup:

AJandTam

01-20-2009, 01:43 PM

add mine
#7 What did Lee mean when he asked Casey "is this like last time"

#8 I want Cindy to explain her statement "you will vote Casey mother of the year. This was said after she knew and had covered up Casey stealing from her grandmother, Casey misplacing her own daughter and not reporting it for 30 days, Casey stealing from her.

#9 Why did Casey say "they have not found her clothes yet"

#10 What was said right before Lee and Casey high fived at court house?

Good Questions NC. Particularly #10

Stella Rose

01-20-2009, 01:44 PM

Yes there is a pole. Pic #17. I believe this was before Caylee was missing though not after.

http://mj.933flz.com/cc-common/gallery/display.html?album_id=130758

Thank you! Nancy always shows the blue dress pictures when she says this, so I thought I was missing something. I feel kinda sick now seeing all those pictures of happy Casey. Unreal.

happygert

01-20-2009, 01:44 PM

When you have no common sense, limited book smarts, a big ego, and are LAZY well.....He should be the poster child.

He Casey and geraldo deserve each other.

Yes I agree.....

happygert

01-20-2009, 01:46 PM

Thank you! Nancy always shows the blue dress pictures when she says this, so I thought I was missing something. I feel kinda sick now seeing all those pictures of happy Casey. Unreal.

Yes this picture was taking after Caylee was missing..(The picture in blue dress)

aubrey04

01-20-2009, 01:48 PM

When you have no common sense, limited book smarts, a big ego, and are LAZY well.....He should be the poster child.

He Casey and geraldo deserve each other.

I wonder why Geraldo and Baez have buddied up like this. Something sure is weird there. I know they're both Puerto Rican but what else could there be? I didn't mind Geraldo before although I thought he was full of a lot of hot air and a drama queen, but I can't bear to watch him anymore, not even when he's a guest on other peoples shows.

For some reason he seems to really want Casey walk free. I just don't get it.

nc1948

01-20-2009, 01:48 PM

Well, let's just change that around to fit the recent "entertainment deals". What if Baez knew she was going to have to appear and warned her but did this for theatrics? Her hair sure wasn't as greasy and helmet looking for the hearing. She almost looked like she had time to style her hair a little bit. Every jailhouse video we have seen she looks a little unkept. This little "cameo" plays out great for a movie scene and it sure kept us all entertained.

Just a thought and of course MO

I noticed the clean look and wondered myself, and do believe that it is extreemly possible.

Kathlb

01-20-2009, 01:52 PM

I think Baez is steamrolling this defense for his career and not Casey's defense. He keeps repeating that her life is in his hands and he has to watch out for her, but I think he doth protest too much.

I hope if he is...the judge finds out about it and cans him. While I would like to see him stay since he is so inept, :wink: I also don't want any appeals to go through. I want a good defense so she stays put for the rest of her life however long that may be.

AJandTam

01-20-2009, 01:53 PM

Doc Dump, Doc Dump. Where is the Doc Dump....

***** Hands on hips and stomping feet*****

:drool:

Elle

01-20-2009, 01:54 PM

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 01:55 PM

ITA and lets not forget the MONEY... They all seem to be making it hand over fist...in one way or the other.........except of course like the rest of us do.. working for it...I managed an apt building in the Silverlake area (Los Angeles) for 9 years...I gave it up 5 months ago and moved to Burbank...I still do part time leasing for the owners.Over 75% of my tenants were in the entertainment business in one facet or another...During the Anna Nicole Smith case we spent alot of time discussing the "paying" for interviews issue...My tenants that worked for ET and Extra told me that.....Nobody does anything (in that business) for free. If they are not being paid for the actual interview....they are being paid for photos and licensing.If what we have heard is correct....It pays darn well.mo

aubrey04

01-20-2009, 01:55 PM

Doc Dump, Doc Dump. Where is the Doc Dump....

***** Hands on hips and stomping feet*****

:drool:

Is a new one out yet?

Kathlb

01-20-2009, 01:56 PM

Doc Dump, Doc Dump. Where is the Doc Dump....

***** Hands on hips and stomping feet*****

:drool:

Maybe if we all stomp in unison (think River Dance) we can shake the rafters and they will do the dump just to shut us up. :thumbsup:

nc1948

01-20-2009, 01:56 PM

That's true, but they really do not have any standing in this except for creating the monster that did the murder. Legally, KC is of age and has control of defense. Course, I think she could easily be manipulated, especially by the only male that she has the most contact with. JMO

I agree. She also is the legal guardian of Caylee and/ or her remains. Until she is convicted she is only a suspect and George and Cindy have no say in what happens to Caylee's remains. It is going to be interesting to see how this memorial and final resting of Caylee is going to play out. Does Baez only have control for a certain length of time? Well he be in charge of the final ceremony? Remember in jail tape Casey stating she no longer had control. I think she does and she is playng it for all it is worth.

Kathlb

01-20-2009, 01:57 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W22gpBv00gg :biggrin:

Pooh

01-20-2009, 01:57 PM

I managed an apt building in the Silverlake area (Los Angeles) for 9 years...I gave it up 5 months ago and moved to Burbank...I still do part time leasing for the owners.Over 75% of my tenants were in the entertainment business in one facet or another...During the Anna Nicole Smith case we spent alot of time discussing the "paying" for interviews issue...My tenants that worked for ET and Extra told me that.....Nobody does anything (in that business) for free. If they are not being paid for the actual interview....they are being paid for photos and licensing.If what we have heard is correct....It pays darn well.mo

Interesting. Baez is in it for the money - not for Casey OR Caylee. imo

His greed might be the death of his career though if he doesn't watch it.

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:00 PM

I was over at the links trying to find the on I referred to, instead I found this.

Cury or Blu should credited for the link.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/food/orl-jail1009jan10,0,759970.story

Pretty amazing to me, the amount of money flowing around in jails.

JMOIn LA county they used to have "real money" in the jail...A visitor could hand the inmate "cash" through barbed wire...The max was $40.00....The dep would wet the bills (in case of drugs) and hand it to the inmate...The inmates called it a "wet fourty"...That stopped around 1996 and the money on your books (only policy) was put into practice.mo

AJandTam

01-20-2009, 02:01 PM

Is a new one out yet?

Hi Aubrey. Still waiting, I think... and impatiently so

AJandTam

01-20-2009, 02:02 PM

Maybe if we all stomp in unison (think River Dance) we can shake the rafters and they will do the dump just to shut us up. :thumbsup:

Get ready, set ...

Ok on the count of 3 ......

nc1948

01-20-2009, 02:06 PM

happygert

01-20-2009, 02:07 PM

So could we assume that lenny is making money from all the appearances he is making or just doing it out of the goodness of his heart?

JMO

Have I missed Lenny on LKL. Good Morning America, Dateline, 20/20, the Today Show, 60 Mintues etc?

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:08 PM

So could we assume that lenny is making money from all the appearances he is making or just doing it out of the goodness of his heart?

JMO(LOL) I don't hate LP....However...I do think he is also looking for the fame and fast buck.. He was already connected to showbiz (cable show) before this case began. I heard him state on NG (the other night) that when he bailed Casey out,he did not know about her interviews with LE etc....I thought...Someone is telling a big mis-truth here.mo

ruth66

01-20-2009, 02:09 PM

So could we assume that lenny is making money from all the appearances he is making or just doing it out of the goodness of his heart?

JMO

Although I think Lenny's time has come and gone I cannot forget who brought him into this case. Baez had money on his mind from "day 1" and will continue his plight for richness and notoriety until day...................whateve it happens to be.

JMO

Mimi428

01-20-2009, 02:10 PM

I think we learned yesterday that they do have a scheduled visit with her on Thursday. Maybe this will be the day they try to warn her.

Not THIS Thursday, as in two days from today. The link which was posted contained that info - and the date of the article was 8/11 - which made the Thursday that was being referred to the 8/14 visit.

Sorry.

dixielover

01-20-2009, 02:11 PM

He sure sounds promising.

hope it is worth 160 M dollar - just had rather them send me a check- sorry hope he does well imo

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 02:12 PM

I managed an apt building in the Silverlake area (Los Angeles) for 9 years...I gave it up 5 months ago and moved to Burbank...I still do part time leasing for the owners.Over 75% of my tenants were in the entertainment business in one facet or another...During the Anna Nicole Smith case we spent alot of time discussing the "paying" for interviews issue...My tenants that worked for ET and Extra told me that.....Nobody does anything (in that business) for free. If they are not being paid for the actual interview....they are being paid for photos and licensing.If what we have heard is correct....It pays darn well.mo

Remember when the pics of Casey when she was a little girl were on Dateline? Was that the pics that Baez sold I wonder.

?noanswer

01-20-2009, 02:13 PM

So could we assume that lenny is making money from all the appearances he is making or just doing it out of the goodness of his heart?

JMO

You know what happens when "we" assume!!! LP may not be paid for his appearances, but he is probably doing it for future security. GOOD publicity never hurt anyone trying to get ahead in the entertainment business or a lawyer trying to make a name for himself. I have heard that union scale for the type of appearaces that LP and the talking lawyer guest is $250.00. Don't know if it is true. JMO

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:13 PM

I wonder why Geraldo and Baez have buddied up like this. Something sure is weird there. I know they're both Puerto Rican but what else could there be? I didn't mind Geraldo before although I thought he was full of a lot of hot air and a drama queen, but I can't bear to watch him anymore, not even when he's a guest on other peoples shows.

For some reason he seems to really want Casey walk free. I just don't get it.Maybe GR is using Baez for easy access and the "breaking story" angle....When Casey is convicted (hopefully) and this case is done...Perhaps Baez will be a footnote in GR address book! It would serve him right.mo

Lavenia

01-20-2009, 02:13 PM

Baez has quite the God complex (imo), but so does his client.

Dionysus, the God of W(h)ine.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 02:14 PM

Although I think Lenny's time has come and gone I cannot forget who brought him into this case. Baez had money on his mind from "day 1" and will continue his plight for richness and notoriety until day...................whateve it happens to be.

JMO

Tru that. Just like all the watchers of Murt feeding the volunteers of TES when TES had CC problems that weekend. So much water and food was sent that weekend. No matter what anyone thinks of Murt it was a good thing for him to be there that weekend.

jmo

Pooh

01-20-2009, 02:17 PM

Huh! never heard that term, 'wet forty'.
I don't understand total strangers mailing money to inmates.
It's not tax deductable is it?
Like giving to a charity?
I mean why else. I just don't understand it.
I'm with Aubry about not caring what Inmate Anthony eats, ( hopes she chokes) as long as taxes aren't paying for the pricey items.

I remember being on the thread for Cindy Sommers. Lots of people sent her money because they believed in her innocence. I didn't but I would say that would be a reason why people send money to inmates.

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:17 PM

Remember when the pics of Casey when she was a little girl were on Dateline? Was that the pics that Baez sold I wonder.Don't know if that has been confirmed...We do know that Garrison pocketed over$ 6,000.00 for pics...That made Cindy and George very angry and she fired him,mo

aubrey04

01-20-2009, 02:18 PM

You know what happens when "we" assume!!! LP may not be paid for his appearances, but he is probably doing it for future security. GOOD publicity never hurt anyone trying to get ahead in the entertainment business or a lawyer trying to make a name for himself. I have heard that union scale for the type of appearaces that LP and the talking lawyer guest is $250.00. Don't know if it is true. JMO

I doubt Nancy Grace is paying for his appearances. She said several times they do not pay guests on the show. However, I do believe the legal panel is paid as they're "legal analysts".. I do agree with you.. I think Lenny is using this for the long-term. Self-promotion type deal.

But I don't know Lenny, so it is just speculation.

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:21 PM

Huh! never heard that term, 'wet forty'.
I don't understand total strangers mailing money to inmates.
It's not tax deductable is it?
Like giving to a charity?
I mean why else. I just don't understand it.
I'm with Aubry about not caring what Inmate Anthony eats, ( hopes she chokes) as long as taxes aren't paying for the pricey items.Believe it or not and this is real sick....Charles Manson gets mail and money from all over the world. Look at The Nightstalker (Richard Ramirez) he was married in prison. There will always be someone out there,looking to hook-up with a notorious if not "horrible" person.mo

kitty1182

01-20-2009, 02:22 PM

Tru that. Just like all the watchers of Murt feeding the volunteers of TES when TES had CC problems that weekend. So much water and food was sent that weekend. No matter what anyone thinks of Murt it was a good thing for him to be there that weekend.

jmo

I sent pizza..

playnice

01-20-2009, 02:24 PM

Believe it or not and this is real sick....Charles Manson gets mail and money from all over the world. Look at The Nightstalker (Richard Ramirez) he was married in prison. There will always be someone out there,looking to hook-up with a notorious if not "horrible" person.mo

I wonder if Casey is sending Thank You notes to these people who are sending her money.
If so, we will be seeing them auctioned off on ebay soon.

ruth66

01-20-2009, 02:25 PM

Don't know if that has been confirmed...We do know that Garrison pocketed over$ 6,000.00 for pics...That made Cindy and George very angry and she fired him,mo

And I wonder who "coordinated" that union? Could it have been..let's see...starts with a B ands with aez....

JMO

ruth66

01-20-2009, 02:26 PM

AbbyNormal

01-20-2009, 02:26 PM

Remember when the pics of Casey when she was a little girl were on Dateline? Was that the pics that Baez sold I wonder.My guess is those pictures were from GA and CA. (Especially if they cannot control rights to Caylee's pictures. Just guessing here.)

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 02:26 PM

I sent pizza..

You have a kind heart. :biggrin:

That weekend showed how many people wanted little Caylee found. I am glad she has been. :rose:

?noanswer

01-20-2009, 02:26 PM

I wonder if Casey is sending Thank You notes to these people who are sending her money.
If so, we will be seeing them auctioned off on ebay soon.

That could be the reason behind some of the donations. Everybody trying to get on the money train. JMO

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:26 PM

I sent pizza..Very nice of you kitty....I know that was a crazy day and I'll admit I was watching Murt. We had posters that were searching and sending water etc...Sure did my heart good to see the people of Florida putting their time and effort into finding Caylee.mo

?noanswer

01-20-2009, 02:29 PM

Very nice of you kitty....I know that was a crazy day and I'll admit I was watching Murt. We had posters that were searching and sending water etc...Sure did my heart good to see the people of Florida putting their time and effort into finding Caylee.mo

True, and I'll bet all those donations and the money that searchers paid out of their pockets for transportion & lodging have not been calculated in the money that TM says he has spent. JMO

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:29 PM

Don't forget the Menendez brothers.Yep, and Susan Atkins (who has brain cancer) is married. In fact IIRC, this is her 2nd marriage.mo

kitty1182

01-20-2009, 02:29 PM

You have a kind heart. :biggrin:

That weekend showed how many people wanted little Caylee found. I am glad she has been. :rose:

Me too..I could care less who found her, she was found..Thank God..

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 02:30 PM

My guess is those pictures were from GA and CA. (Especially if they cannot control rights to Caylee's pictures. Just guessing here.)

I heard some TH reference pics of Casey in a file that he had seen. Did anyone hear that?

kitty1182

01-20-2009, 02:30 PM

kitty1182

01-20-2009, 02:32 PM

Was that you Kitty, Thanks I enjoyed it. :thumbsup:

You are welcome..lol

I know I wasn't the only one sending though...

Pooh

01-20-2009, 02:32 PM

They must have a better heart than me. I guess there are people out there that believe the nanny story, or who framed PPOF.

JMO

Yeah, that's my guess. I don't see how ANYONE could draw that conclusion but it just goes to show you how many dumb and ignorant people there are in this world. I thought Cindy was innocent from day 1 but I never got all that involved in her case. Glad she was released. But THIS chick needs to ROT in prison. Plain and simple.

playnice

01-20-2009, 02:32 PM

That could be the reason behind some of the donations. Everybody trying to get on the money train. JMO

21 CAYLEE ANTHONY TRAGEDY TV GUIDE ADS CASEY CLIPPINGS 0 Bids $6.99
$9.99 Buy it now
+$2.50

and a bunch of peoples magazines.

Who would want to buy these is beyond me.

tvdinners

01-20-2009, 02:34 PM

I remember being on the thread for Cindy Sommers. Lots of people sent her money because they believed in her innocence. I didn't but I would say that would be a reason why people send money to inmates.

Many of us sent donations to the Cindy Sommer Defense Fund because we were convinced not only of her innocence, but that there was no murder at all (and we were right)... but only a few regularly sent money to cover her comissary funds.

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:35 PM

Was that you Kitty, Thanks I enjoyed it. :thumbsup:Very nice of you Mr. Lucky...I know you and the other searchers put your hearts and bodies into looking for Caylee.:rose:
mo

AbbyNormal

01-20-2009, 02:35 PM

I heard some TH reference pics of Casey in a file that he had seen. Did anyone hear that?In a file? I don't remember hearing that.

I think there is probably a lot of fighting/negotiating behind the scenes that we won't hear about until all is said and done.

kitty1182

01-20-2009, 02:35 PM

Very nice of you Mr. Lucky...I know you and the other searchers put your hearts and bodies into looking for Caylee.:rose:
mo

I agree:beer:

CelticDawn

01-20-2009, 02:36 PM

That could be the reason behind some of the donations. Everybody trying to get on the money train. JMO

that is just plain sick...!!! Pretty soon ANYTHING signed by casey is going to be fair game..... Im sure even that Rotten.com website will have some sick tribute.....

It is SO SAD what people have an appetite for...!!!!

<The CJ screwed up Obamas oath :lol:>

Lavenia

01-20-2009, 02:36 PM

Yep, and Susan Atkins (who has brain cancer) is married. In fact IIRC, this is her 2nd marriage.mo

We just learned yesterday of one of our local yokel's that got married. You may remember him as the guy who dragged the African-American, James Byrd, Jr., behind a truck with a couple of his buddies, until Mr. Byrd was decapitated.

I thought of Casey when I saw the news article and realized she will still get joy from life which her poor daughter will never know here.

http://www.kfdm.com/news/berry_29752___article.html/woman_married.html

Lavenia

01-20-2009, 02:37 PM

Young lady, did you learn that type of behaviour from the latest released vid?! :scared:

Give her a break! She's frushtrated! :laugh:

CelticDawn

01-20-2009, 02:37 PM

21 CAYLEE ANTHONY TRAGEDY TV GUIDE ADS CASEY CLIPPINGS 0 Bids $6.99
$9.99 Buy it now
+$2.50

and a bunch of peoples magazines.

Who would want to buy these is beyond me.

we have one down here that collects execution memorabilia from all the executions at angola....Its horrible what people do for entertainment...!!!.....And as long as there is an appetite for such things...there will be some opportunist that will provide them.

CelticDawn

01-20-2009, 02:38 PM

Young lady, did you learn that type of behaviour from the latest released vid?! :scared:

shes FRUSHTRATED...nad....CANT SWALLOW...!!! :lol:

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:39 PM

Yeah, 'ol Charlie boy is my DH's cousins' hero.

Did anything ever come of that rumor that Inmate Anthony received mail from Inmate Peterson?I think that rumor was "debunked"..He sure received his fair share of fan mail!!mo

RiverWalk

01-20-2009, 02:39 PM

I heard some TH reference pics of Casey in a file that he had seen. Did anyone hear that?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey0608nov06,0,7406889.story

AbbyNormal

01-20-2009, 02:39 PM

Yeah, 'ol Charlie boy is my DH's cousins' hero.

Did anything ever come of that rumor that Inmate Anthony received mail from Inmate Peterson?The only thing I heard about that was Baez on tv saying it wasn't that Scott. The name was SP, just not the same SP.

CelticDawn

01-20-2009, 02:44 PM

Pretty Leaf

01-20-2009, 02:45 PM

Sharon Liko, family lawyer and criminal defense attorney said it best last night on JVM

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, just the fact that her mom is weeping, how can you smile in reaction to that? Wouldn`t you want to comfort your mom? If my mom was crying, I would try to comfort her and say, "Oh, don`t feel bad" or "I`m so sorry you`re crying." I mean, there`s no empathy there.

LUDWIG: No. One of two things...

LIKO: Not if you`re a lunatic. I mean, this case should be called Lunatics R Us.

One thing I noticed in that tape is that George never once tried to comfort Cindy. His hand was on the back of her chair but he never tried to hug her or even pat/rub her back.

Pooh

01-20-2009, 02:47 PM

We just learned yesterday of one of our local yokel's that got married. You may remember him as the guy who dragged the African-American, James Byrd, Jr., behind a truck with a couple of his buddies, until Mr. Byrd was decapitated.

I thought of Casey when I saw the news article and realized she will still get joy from life which her poor daughter will never know here.

http://www.kfdm.com/news/berry_29752___article.html/woman_married.html

Ya know - you'd think their rights would be taken away to get married and to vote and whatever else they still get to do. Inalienable rights I guess....it's just ridiculous. What the heck good does it do to be married to an inmate?? I mean, really?! So who wants to bet that Casey is married within her first year in GP?

Lavenia

01-20-2009, 02:48 PM

Oh My...!! Isnt that special

<I just hope they dont reproduce>

I don't think they will CD since she had a proxy in even for the marriage! Proxy pregnancy? :lol:

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:48 PM

We just learned yesterday of one of our local yokel's that got married. You may remember him as the guy who dragged the African-American, James Byrd, Jr., behind a truck with a couple of his buddies, until Mr. Byrd was decapitated.

I thought of Casey when I saw the news article and realized she will still get joy from life which her poor daughter will never know here.

http://www.kfdm.com/news/berry_29752___article.html/woman_married.htmlThere you go...No matter how sick the crime,there will always be "someone" out there looking to marry or "support" these people...My 2 BIL (doing LWOP),have been through so many women...It starts as pen-pals and then these girls start sending money and packages.Next comes the long drive to visit and so it goes until they burn out and The BIL are on to the next "adoring" female!mo

Lavenia

01-20-2009, 02:50 PM

OMG That was a horrible crime. I remember. Gonna go read the article.
Who would marry something like that!

Read the comments under the article and learn more about who would marry a guy like that... Wow! :scared:

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:51 PM

we have one down here that collects execution memorabilia from all the executions at angola....Its horrible what people do for entertainment...!!!.....And as long as there is an appetite for such things...there will be some opportunist that will provide them.More so now with the internet and websites that pander to these IMO, sick and disturbed individuals. I would bet that Casey has already "heard" from male admirers in Europe and the USA.mo

happygert

01-20-2009, 02:52 PM

Good point, wonder what the reason is?

maybe some that the A's were on tapped them out until end of year.....Another would be he's not trying to sell off a dead child..

Lavenia

01-20-2009, 02:53 PM

There you go...No matter how sick the crime,there will always be "someone" out there looking to marry or "support" these people...My 2 BIL (doing LWOP),have been through so many women...It starts as pen-pals and then these girls start sending money and packages.Next comes the long drive to visit and so it goes until they burn out and The BIL are on to the next "adoring" female!mo

I imagine Casey could be pretty good at this little endeavor to pad her commissary account when the donations surely will drop.

AbbyNormal

01-20-2009, 02:55 PM

One thing I noticed in that tape is that George never once tried to comfort Cindy. His hand was on the back of her chair but he never tried to hug her or even pat/rub her back.The A family all relate to each other differently than what seems "typical"........I keep trying to figure them out. (It hurts my brain)!

Hope to check in later tonight. Maybe some newsy news by then.

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 02:57 PM

We just learned yesterday of one of our local yokel's that got married. You may remember him as the guy who dragged the African-American, James Byrd, Jr., behind a truck with a couple of his buddies, until Mr. Byrd was decapitated.

I thought of Casey when I saw the news article and realized she will still get joy from life which her poor daughter will never know here.

http://www.kfdm.com/news/berry_29752___article.html/woman_married.htmlDoes Texas allow conjugal visits for violent offenders? Calif took them away...If you are accused of a violent crime, no family visits...This was partially based on Tex Watson (Manson Family) fathering so many kids and running a "ministry business" with his wife from prison.mo

Stella Rose

01-20-2009, 02:58 PM

If it makes you feel any better Stella, Casey will never be that happy again.

A little, thanks. Just seeing her mug makes me feel ill. What a vile, disgusting waste of flesh. Seeing her partying - wrapped up in the falg - all of it, it is repulsive, knowing what she did. Ugh.

(sorry, I'm stepping away from the computer and taking my meds now).

happygert

01-20-2009, 02:59 PM

The A family all relate to each other differently than what seems "typical"........I keep trying to figure them out. (It hurts my brain)!

Hope to check in later tonight. Maybe some newsy news by then.

AbbyNormal. Save yourself! Trying to figure them out will give you a PTSD... You'll have a permanent headache....

Lavenia

01-20-2009, 02:59 PM

Does Texas allow conjugal visits for violent offenders? Calif took them away...If you are accused of a violent crime, no family visits...This was partially based on Tex Watson (Manson Family) fathering so many kids and running a "ministry business" with his wife from prison.mo

TX doesn't allow diddly-squat! Violent or not. Don't mess with Texas, lol.

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 03:04 PM

TX doesn't allow diddly-squat! Violent or not. Don't mess with Texas, lol.
WOW! that is strict (LOL)....Here you can still get the Family (conjugal)...the inmates have another name for it which I'm not going to post here....But, not for violent offenders. I wouldn't know what Florida's stance is on the Family visits.mo

happygert

01-20-2009, 03:06 PM

Dang it I want a doc dump today....:crying: It's getting late in afternoon.......bet we don't get one......:crying: wan wan wan...

Having withdrawls here..

martha

01-20-2009, 03:07 PM

ITA
What I noticed was the way he was casually sitting back in his chair. Not tense at all- sort of looking over Cindy's shoulder and picking little things off the back of her shirt when he is on the phone with KC. Not leaned forward trying to look her in the eye and actually engage KC in a conversation. IMOO I think g has known since the day he picked up the car that caylee was gone. I bet cindy knew too. I don;t blame c and g for not even wanting to look at casey. casey;s lawyer is just messing with her he is out for him self and trying to make big money. I think he wants a tv show. why was casey mad at her mother and daddy for not getting her out Lenny said she knew she was getting out that afternoon.jmho

Regina.Lampert

01-20-2009, 03:08 PM

You are welcome..lol

I know I wasn't the only one sending though...

Yep, yours had the shovel hidden inside with directions to that bush, didn't it? :laugh:

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 03:10 PM

Yep, yours had the shovel hidden inside with directions to that bush, didn't it? :laugh:

:laugh::laugh:

kitty1182

01-20-2009, 03:10 PM

Yep, yours had the shovel hidden inside with directions to that bush, didn't it? :laugh:

:wink::wink:

happygert

01-20-2009, 03:11 PM

ITA- but in my mind no docs is meaning really good docs. IMO

I can only hope! I really want to see the dang search warrants....

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 03:11 PM

I think g has known since the day he picked up the car that caylee was gone. I bet cindy knew too. I don;t blame c and g for not even wanting to look at casey. casey;s lawyer is just messing with her he is out for him self and trying to make big money. I think he wants a tv show. why was casey mad at her mother and daddy for not getting her out Lenny said she knew she was getting out that afternoon.jmhoHello Martha, I agree...How could GA not recognize the smell of decomp...He even stated as much to LE.As far as Casey being mad at her parents....Perhaps, she doesn't want them to visit because she is angry at her father for his GJ testimony.mo

Kathlb

01-20-2009, 03:12 PM

TX doesn't allow diddly-squat! Violent or not. Don't mess with Texas, lol.

YEA!!! :patriot: :biggrin:

happygert

01-20-2009, 03:12 PM

I think g has known since the day he picked up the car that caylee was gone. I bet cindy knew too. I don;t blame c and g for not even wanting to look at casey. casey;s lawyer is just messing with her he is out for him self and trying to make big money. I think he wants a tv show. why was casey mad at her mother and daddy for not getting her out Lenny said she knew she was getting out that afternoon.jmho

In end of last visit she makes a comment about being home soon....something to that effect cant remeber it right off hand..

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 03:13 PM

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 03:14 PM

I am glad you mentioned that part about LP saying she already knew that she was getting out. That's quite a little show of frustration for someone who didn't need to be frustrated. TY- and IMOOIf she did indeed know that she was being bailed out...IMO, she was already setting the stage to not be "questioned" 500 times by Cindy or Lee. mo

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 03:15 PM

In end of last visit she makes a comment about being home soon....something to that effect cant remeber it right off hand..

Well if she knew I wonder what her temper tantrum was all about, and I wonder if she and George had their "private" meeting once she got home.

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 03:17 PM

Casey said she paid Zanny 400 dollars a week, I wonder if the IRS is interested in a woman who is earning 400 dollars off the books. Don't you have to pay Social Security taxes for anyone who makes more than a certain amount in a quarter. Didn't this situation cause a lot of problems for politicians with housekeepers and nannies?

Maybe one more headache for Casey to deal with?400 dollars a week and not a smidgen of a paper trail....:rolleyes:mo

cuddlyrunner

01-20-2009, 03:17 PM

The blog I mentioned earlier (and you all ignored me lol) says that the doc dump will be search warrants.

marshmallow

01-20-2009, 03:18 PM

Casey said she paid Zanny 400 dollars a week, I wonder if the IRS is interested in a woman who is earning 400 dollars off the books. Don't you have to pay Social Security taxes for anyone who makes more than a certain amount in a quarter. Didn't this situation cause a lot of problems for politicians with housekeepers and nannies?

Maybe one more headache for Casey to deal with?

actually Cindy paid Zanny through Casey and I'm assuming it was cash not check. Now that to me says it all. Cindy's no dummy. She must've wondered. Why pay a nanny cash weekly and never meet her?

grammie/va

01-20-2009, 03:21 PM

The blog I mentioned earlier (and you all ignored me lol) says that the doc dump will be search warrants.

Could you pm me the blog site as I don't know if we can post it here please.

CelticDawn

01-20-2009, 03:21 PM

Hello Martha, I agree...How could GA not recognize the smell of decomp...He even stated as much to LE.As far as Casey being mad at her parents....Perhaps, she doesn't want them to visit because she is angry at her father for his GJ testimony.mo

speaking of George....when he talked to Cindy from work....and she said they had lost Caylee....There was a time he tried to call her back that there was no answer ....Then he said he didnt even know casey was at home at that time....then he called Lee to tell him casey was in a lot of trouble.....What do you suppose was going on in that time that Cindy wasnt answering???cindy casey and Lee were together....

Duckaroo

01-20-2009, 03:23 PM

happygert

01-20-2009, 03:26 PM

Very nice of you kitty....I know that was a crazy day and I'll admit I was watching Murt. We had posters that were searching and sending water etc...Sure did my heart good to see the people of Florida putting their time and effort into finding Caylee.mo

Too bad her own grandparents did not help with searches or send water or food.

Thanks to Kitty and many other posters who did..

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 03:28 PM

Too bad her own grandparents did not help with searches or send water or food.

Thanks to Kitty and many other posters who did..

I will never get over that, the most that they ever did was drive that darn roaming billboard.

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 03:31 PM

speaking of George....when he talked to Cindy from work....and she said they had lost Caylee....There was a time he tried to call her back that there was no answer ....Then he said he didnt even know casey was at home at that time....then he called Lee to tell him casey was in a lot of trouble.....What do you suppose was going on in that time that Cindy wasnt answering???cindy casey and Lee were together....
Something we may never know!.....Reading your post made me think that "they" may have wanted to get rid of GA, in that initial (and critical) first few hours....Didn't CA tell GA (at some point) to stop acting like LE. It seems that (of all The Anthony's), GA was excluded the most often...Casey states in her jail video that they had not been close for quite some time.mo

happygert

01-20-2009, 03:31 PM

happygert

01-20-2009, 03:34 PM

I will never get over that, the most that they ever did was drive that darn roaming billboard.

And don't forget the scenes they caused wanting them to stop searching..... Nor will I Willow... not even send 1 bottle of water.but c never went without hers.....

kate482000

01-20-2009, 03:34 PM

One thing I noticed in that tape is that George never once tried to comfort Cindy. His hand was on the back of her chair but he never tried to hug her or even pat/rub her back.

ITA pretty leaf..I noticed that and it seemed so cold. No comfort, no hug. If my loved one was so visibily upset I would try to console them with words and hugs..Very strange...

Dells

01-20-2009, 03:37 PM

Last night on NG the doctor, I don't remember his name was talking about the defense could be waiting on the prosecution's final report of the remains to be written up. He said when that is written the defense would be able to see what they have and compare the report to the remains in order to rebuff their findings. After that then the remains could be cremated or buried.
It is not about the truth. it is about the game.
I am glad I am just a lay person. I could not be on the defense on this case. My heart just would not let me.
Jose getting into the entertainment business, why did I see that coming! I knew he had other things on his mind beside Casey and her best interest. Saying that his new career would hinge on how this case turns out! WTH does that mean? What about effective counsel? Conflict of interest? Ethics (well I knew he did not have alot of that).
I just see this case dragging on with a lot of motions flying around so prosecution will not have to have a retrial if possible. JMO

[Bolding is mine]

Sadly, I think the defense has turned this whole case into a game. It's not about justice anymore, it's about winning the game. It literally makes me sick.:thumbdown:

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 03:37 PM

actually Cindy paid Zanny through Casey and I'm assuming it was cash not check. Now that to me says it all. Cindy's no dummy. She must've wondered. Why pay a nanny cash weekly and never meet her?

wow i missed that Cindy admitted/copped to paying Zanny? In which interview, if you recall? bad enough she let casey steal from her, now it turns out she GAVE her $$ to pay a ficticious nanny.. talk about enabling!

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 03:39 PM

IA- IMO though Casey is not afraid of being questioned, not even by FBI or LE, CA, or Lee- she is just going to lie her way thru it and or walk away and not answer them. Shutting people out is what she does- she needs George for something, it is her only interest in anyone. She doesn't care if she has been disconnected from him- that is nothing- the only reason that KC would pick George is because he has something that she needs or wants. It's her nature to do this-IIRC, didn't Baez at one time suggest that Lee was acting like LE and it wasn't a good idea for Casey to speak with him.I don't remember if this was stated prior to this "video" or after. As far as her father...IMO, she knows he is the one to give her the most slack and not pressure her. Strange, considering that he is former LE.mo

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 03:40 PM

I thought the 1st immunity deal was offered after she got out the 1st time?

JMO

I believe it was.

jmo

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 03:40 PM

And don't forget the scenes they caused wanting them to stop searching..... Nor will I Willow... not even send 1 bottle of water.but c never went without hers.....

Add to that, soliciting donations at the Publix parking lot.

Dells

01-20-2009, 03:41 PM

If this entertainment deal is true, I can see how Baez is twisting this and telling Casey she will get away with it and they will both become famous. That's why we see the smiles on their faces in the court room. So inappropriate in a baby murder trial. I wouldn't put it past Baez. Someone needs to explain the law to him. Is he for real? Good lord.

If the entertainment deal is true, then this is the beginning of the end for him. The case that he thought would make him famous, will ruin him instead. I certainly hope that the allegations are investigated and if found to be true I hope Baez is removed from the case and disbarred. I am sure that Casey would turn on him in a New York minute if she thought it would help her cause. I don't think Baez realized what he was getting himself into when he took this case. All he needs to do is look around him and see that anyone that has come into contact w/Casey and this case have been torn to shreds. Looks like it is his turn now.

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 03:42 PM

ITA pretty leaf..I noticed that and it seemed so cold. No comfort, no hug. If my loved one was so visibily upset I would try to console them with words and hugs..Very strange...

I think that's part of their way of dealing with Casey. If George is too solicitious of Cindy, Casey won't confide in him. The dynamics seem to have to be George and Casey vs Cindy or Cindy and Casey vs George, when it is George and Cindy vs Casey, she shuts down.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 03:43 PM

And don't forget the scenes they caused wanting them to stop searching..... Nor will I Willow... not even send 1 bottle of water.but c never went without hers.....

When Cindy was so mad at LP because he was going to hold a memorial service for Caylee when the Anthony's showed up at JBP. Cindy said no one has a right to do that but me. I guess that is not so true huh? Since nothing is being done. Seems like Baez and Casey are the ones who have that right.

jmo

newsjunkie

01-20-2009, 03:43 PM

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 03:44 PM

Now thanks to casey and the A's there will be many more victims of casey... Just think about all the ones asking for help from TES and they can't help them now because of finances.. Yes they even caused a lot of trouble with donations that were sent to TES that TES returned because of cindys crap.. I guess cindy thought those donations should have went to her.. yes I'd say there are many Vicitms here....But the only VICTIM in the A family is CAYLEE...

IMO The A's are like a tornado... and everyone that has tried to help have been hit with it....JMHO!ITA...Tim Miller was so angry when he spoke about Casey letting TES do the searches (and spend so much money), when she knew all along where Caylee was...Pretty sickening when she is talking about being a missing children's advocate and doesn't give a "zip" about whether those resources are used in a wasted manner!mo

Dells

01-20-2009, 03:44 PM

The way things are going, I don't think we'll see a trial before 2010. If the reports are true about Baez's entertainment deals which to my understanding are illegal then the defendent will need to get someone else representing her. Who will take on this case, pro bono? Oy vey.:unsure:

Well, maybe if Baez is removed from the case a new lawyer will be able to help Casey see the light and take some sort of plea deal? The sad thing is, that Baez probably could have helped Casey w/a plea deal in the beginning where at least she would be able to walk out of prison some 20 years from now. Now she is looking at least at LWOP. I really think Baez blew it, and his own ambitions got in the way of helping his client and putting her best interests first.

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 03:49 PM

Add to that, soliciting donations at the Publix parking lot.Oh that went down like a lead balloon...In fact, I believe they were asked to move several times because citizens were angry.mo

CelticDawn

01-20-2009, 03:49 PM

Oh, so sorry. I mishconscrewed her actions. :laugh:

You took them out of context...

KP1935

01-20-2009, 03:50 PM

Sadly, I think the defense has turned this whole case into a game. It's not about justice anymore, it's about winning the game. It literally makes me sick.:thumbdown:

First and foremost, let me state, I believe she is guilty. However, isn't it normally the case that the defense do anything reasonable to get their client acquitted? Throwing out numerous situtations/possibilities to refute the prosecution is normal isn't it? If Baez didn't cross examine a single prosecution witness and call no defense witnesses and simply stood up when the prosecution rests and said "Ahh, she's guilty, go ahead and sentence her as justice has been served." That wouldn't be a "fair" trial. Justice warrants a fair trial and she deserves that.

However, here on these boards, we aren't the jury, so we aren't necessarily convicting/sentencing the accused. Everything here is understood to be our opinions on the facts of the case.

IMO.

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 03:53 PM

IIRC, didn't Baez at one time suggest that Lee was acting like LE and it wasn't a good idea for Casey to speak with him.I don't remember if this was stated prior to this "video" or after. As far as her father...IMO, she knows he is the one to give her the most slack and not pressure her. Strange, considering that he is former LE.mo

I think he gives her the most slack because he realizes how useless it is to ask questions. He knows the truth and like LE he realizes he's not going to get anything else from her, why give her the opportunity to continue with the lies. His tactic seemed to be guilt (this is destroying your mother) or similiar to LE with the you're in charge, the boss, only you can decide how this will play out, you're the one pulling the strings. She denies that but it is the truth, Yuri and John Allen told her the same thing in the interview at Universal, how it ends is up to her.

happygert

01-20-2009, 03:54 PM

Add to that, soliciting donations at the Publix parking lot.

exactly!!!!!!!! Still haven't figured out why they were soliciting donations for a search when they never conducted one or participated in one.. I guess they had better use for the money...JMHO!

really3997

01-20-2009, 03:55 PM

Never seen that before, anyone know if there is a back gate from the A's home to that area. If there isn't Casey would have to jump the fence or go out the front of the house to do this.

Anyone notice that the website is for sale..

JMO

I think if you look at the footage in the back yard that would be a no..There is alot of trees and plants against the back fence. JMO I am not looking :wink:

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 03:55 PM

Question someone? Is $400 a wk normal to pay a sitter?
If so I am going up for hire!

only for an invisible nanny, a regular, everyone can see her nanny is much cheaper!

Dells

01-20-2009, 03:55 PM

Good morning n/t and everyone. This information about media deals and suspicion that baez is promoting deals at the expense of a competent defense for casey anthony is so interesting.

I have thought since the last hearing, when the prosecution requested that the defendant be brought to the courtroom to personally waive the hearing, that they were suspicious of just how baez is keeping casey anthony informed of her case.

I believe baez is not only incompetent, but his behavior may be bordering on unethical. Instead of filing a complaint with the prosecution, the unknown complaintant should have gone to the Florida State Bar.

This has to be straightened out NOW and not after the conviction or that verdict could be in jeopardy, imo.

Great post and ITA w/you! I certainly hope that these allegations about Baez are looked into as well because I don't want them to affect the verdict in any way.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 03:57 PM

If the pros was suppose to hand over the stuff in 10 days and they haven't yet are they in contempt?

happygert

01-20-2009, 03:58 PM

Gotta run meeting my daughter at hopsital hope there a doc dump when I get back...

RockStarGirl

01-20-2009, 03:59 PM

Hi Everyone finally able to get on after many long hours of work today.

Anyway, anything new today? I saw NG last night, I tell ya, nothing Baez does or Casey says shocks me anymore. Any doc dumps yet? TIA

Dells

01-20-2009, 04:00 PM

I would add Tim Miller and the dedicated searchers to that list.

Also don't forget to add the prosection, LE, and the FBI to that list as well.

PROPROS

01-20-2009, 04:00 PM

Gotta run meeting my daughter at hopsital hope there a doc dump when I get back...See you gert!Have a nice day.mo

martha

01-20-2009, 04:03 PM

This last video disgusted me so much I had to take another break from it all before I pulled my hair out from wanting to rip hers out. KC threw her little tantrums as a way to shut up any talk of Caylee in my opinion, can't have any pity or worry being taken away from the Princess. Just kills me that not once did I hear her say anything like, have you guys heard anything new? What's going on out there, I'm losing my mind in here, all I can think about is Caylee and where she is, if she's ok and being taken care of, is she crying to come home. And that bit about telling Zanny we forgive her, unless the person already knows something, which most of us believe she did. How could she say that, for all an innocent person would know, kidnappers could be doing god knows what to Caylee at that very moment. How about please don't hurt her, we love her very much, we miss her and we beg you to return her to us safe.

:cursing: ITA with you that is what I would have been saying to my mother and daddy. get on tv and beg them to bring her back. not hurt her and take care of her. bring her anywhere you want to and we will make sure we get her.day or night.so many things I would have said about caylee and not one word about my self.Why not tell her mother and daddy shw was so sorry they were hurting so bad. Casey knew where caylee was. that is the reason she did not beg for her to be brought home.jmho

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 04:03 PM

Maybe they can say they were mis-placed...

JMO

like caylee was... they can follow the script for 30 days

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 04:05 PM

Maybe they can say they were mis-placed...

JMO

Maybe, but you would think they would have everything "centralized". :wink:

Mimi428

01-20-2009, 04:06 PM

TX doesn't allow diddly-squat! Violent or not. Don't mess with Texas, lol.

You know it, sistah!

:beer:

Dells

01-20-2009, 04:06 PM

Well one minute she says she's in the dark, the next minute baez is keeping her up to date. Granted, this was before the body was found but really Casey..what's the truth. I think Baez stepped in twice when IMO he shouldn't have, he should have left the decision up to her. I hate to think that they could have found Caylees body long before December 11th. Casey is what she is, don't get me wrong..but if there was a time where she was going to confess it has come and gone.

Bolding is mine...

I agree. There is no incentive for Casey to confess now. Before they found the body she could have probably gotten a plea deal if she took them to the body. She could have gotten significantly less time than LWOP. That ship has sailed and I have to wonder if Baez is the one that convinced her not to talk. He really blew it for her, and even if he is removed from the case and Casey gets a new attorney, what can they really do for her? She has no options left now.

Ladyhawk

01-20-2009, 04:09 PM

I think that's part of their way of dealing with Casey. If George is too solicitious of Cindy, Casey won't confide in him. The dynamics seem to have to be George and Casey vs Cindy or Cindy and Casey vs George, when it is George and Cindy vs Casey, she shuts down.

I think you are so right on regarding their dynamics. Casey can only take one of them on at a time and achieve her goal. Given time and a few more years to perfect her craft, I have no doubt that Casey would be able to defeat and conquer G & C both together and leave them in total agreement with her.

Pretty Leaf

01-20-2009, 04:15 PM

I missed it too.

How could cindy pay 400 a week when on the stand she admitted she was behind a few payments on bills. I wouldn't think she could afford that on top of all the bills she had.

jmo

While Cindy was on the stand during the bail hearing she was asked and if she was aware of a loan from Citibank for over $13,600 was in default. She stated she didn't but lawyer made it clear she/George were. Cindy did admit she was behind in some of her other payments.

So she can't pay the bills, but pays for Casey's cell phone (which must have been a whopper) then pays Zanny??? Along with everything else she is responsible for as Georgie boy can't hold a job.

GMAB

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 04:18 PM

I think you are so right on regarding their dynamics. Casey can only take one of them on at a time and achieve her goal. Given time and a few more years to perfect her craft, I have no doubt that Casey would be able to defeat and conquer G & C both together and leave them in total agreement with her.

George lost ground when he and Cindy split for that time. Cindy basically cut him off at the knees with regards to any discipline over Casey ( the Jesse/Casey incident where Cindy told him he was no longer "man of the house") and that she was in charge. Casey now only favors her Dad when she needs a break from her mom.

marshmallow

01-20-2009, 04:21 PM

I missed it too.

How could cindy pay 400 a week when on the stand she admitted she was behind a few payments on bills. I wouldn't think she could afford that on top of all the bills she had.

jmo

it was in the very begining. Cindy stated that she paid for the nanny, for all of Caylee's expenses. All Casey had to pay for were her own extra personal expenses.

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 04:23 PM

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/2/casey_could_take_immunity_for_information_on_cayle e.html

Sorry I had to acutally go work for two minutes- they look to be coinciding but maybe I am thinking that the deal was offered when she was in, then she got out, and it expired just as she was being rearrested. IMO

it's so irritating when work gets in the way of this message board! LOL

somedays I get absolutely nothing done. Thank God the inauguration slowed the boards down a bit and I've gotten caught up.

marshmallow

01-20-2009, 04:23 PM

If the pros was suppose to hand over the stuff in 10 days and they haven't yet are they in contempt?

if they haven't received it from the FBI yet then no. It's ten days after they receive it from the FBI. At the last court day the State stated that there were things not back yet and that's why they hadn't been turned over.

Stella Rose

01-20-2009, 04:29 PM

it's so irritating when work gets in the way of this message board! LOL

somedays I get absolutely nothing done. Thank God the inauguration slowed the boards down a bit and I've gotten caught up.

Just my luck, I have all the bosses in a Board Meeting - and nothing happening here. Not one pesky document dumped. Figures. Tomorrow, all he!! will break loose here, and we'll be buried in new documents.

Leelee68

01-20-2009, 04:31 PM

This is my first time posting. I have been addicted to this message board since the SP Trial so I hope I am doing this right. I just saw someones post about the Prosecution theory and the trail that Casey took to dispose of Caylee and I bet that is exactly what she did. It totally makes sense. I just cannot believe she thought she could get away with it.

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 04:31 PM

it was in the very begining. Cindy stated that she paid for the nanny, for all of Caylee's expenses. All Casey had to pay for were her own extra personal expenses.

I'm thinking she was smoke screening for Casey at the time. Cindy realized how foolish she would look for falling for the nanny story and decided to publicly back Casey in order to save face. Otherwise I cannot believe any rational person would shell out money for a nanny on top of all those other expenses.

RockStarGirl

01-20-2009, 04:31 PM

Not to argue, but if she is going to head out the back gate, why walk all the way to the other side near a road. Why not put Caylee out in the middle of the denseness so that there is less chance she would be found. IMO

I was thinking the same thing, but is it possible that the woods is so dense that it was hard tell just how close she was to the road? I'm not saying this is definately the way it was done, but sounds possible.

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 04:34 PM

Just my luck, I have all the bosses in a Board Meeting - and nothing happening here. Not one pesky document dumped. Figures. Tomorrow, all he!! will break loose here, and we'll be buried in new documents.

I have a fabulous boss and I think he is on to me, but as long as everyone gets paid every two weeks (I'm payroll spvr) he has left me alone. He is the best!!

Lavenia

01-20-2009, 04:37 PM

You know it, sistah!

:beer:

:beer: (I don't know if it cuts down on criminal behavior but it sure makes justice taste sweet.)

openminded

01-20-2009, 04:37 PM

it was in the very begining. Cindy stated that she paid for the nanny, for all of Caylee's expenses. All Casey had to pay for were her own extra personal expenses.

And it appears Cindy didn't find it strange that Casey made a habit of stealing money to pay for those personal expenses.

Equally odd to me was Cindy's statement in one of the jail videos as Casey began saying that she was looking into how she could get a job, etc. for when she got out and Cindy quickly told her that she didn't have to get a job. Sure. That makes sense.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 04:38 PM

Thanks for finding that Lomar, so what could of been the chance that was missed before 8/14?

JMO

To sell pictures or an interview that would pay enough for her bond?

Leelee68

01-20-2009, 04:39 PM

Of course she is going to put the body closer to the road and not closer to her parents house. That would make it look like someone in a car pulled over and dumped the body.

Pooh

01-20-2009, 04:39 PM

Just my luck, I have all the bosses in a Board Meeting - and nothing happening here. Not one pesky document dumped. Figures. Tomorrow, all he!! will break loose here, and we'll be buried in new documents.

Hi neighbor!! Isn't that just the luck?! I've been busy today so I'm kinda glad it's slow. First of the year is always hectic in my office. Hopefully this week, at least, something new will be released. Keep your fingers crossed!!

Pooh

01-20-2009, 04:40 PM

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 04:42 PM

Lavenia

01-20-2009, 04:45 PM

spiritwolf46

01-20-2009, 04:46 PM

exactly!!!!!!!! Still haven't figured out why they were soliciting donations for a search when they never conducted one or participated in one.. I guess they had better use for the money...JMHO!

ITA!!!!!!!!!! :seeya:

spiritwolf46

01-20-2009, 04:47 PM

Stella Rose

01-20-2009, 04:55 PM

Hi neighbor!! Isn't that just the luck?! I've been busy today so I'm kinda glad it's slow. First of the year is always hectic in my office. Hopefully this week, at least, something new will be released. Keep your fingers crossed!!

Hey Pooh! This waiting for documents stuff is for the birds. Feel kind of pathetic for looking so forward to it!

Oh, and Ishkabibble - I think mine are on to me as well, but don't care too much since the work gets done.

RockStarGirl

01-20-2009, 04:57 PM

I agree with Mr. Lucky. A dead body weighing over 30# would be difficult to carry thru that woods almost to the road. Casey just drove to the side of the road and dumped Caylee behind a bush without much effort or thought.

Yes, I tend to think both of you are correct. She wouldn't have tried to carry Caylee that far. She was a princess, it would have taken too much time, she would have gotten dirty, etc. Too much effort for her. JMO.

dgfred

01-20-2009, 05:01 PM

Yes, I tend to think both of you are correct. She wouldn't have tried to carry Caylee that far. She was a princess, it would have taken too much time, she would have gotten dirty, etc. Too much effort for her. JMO.

Shoot. She was tough enough to dig bamboo roots, and she had a shovel handy. This could go either way about close to the road or not.

RockStarGirl

01-20-2009, 05:03 PM

Shoot. She was tough enough to dig bamboo roots, and she had a shovel handy. This could go either way about close to the road or not.

Yes, but remember that her and Caylee were basically the same size. :huh:

martha

01-20-2009, 05:03 PM

I agree with Mr. Lucky. A dead body weighing over 30# would be difficult to carry thru that woods almost to the road. Casey just drove to the side of the road and dumped Caylee behind a bush without much effort or thought.
ITA and she did not expect anyone to look that close to home. I can;t believe how she treats her mother and daddy. no respect for them at all. from the looks of their home they had everything they wanted. Cindy must have made a good salary. I don;t believe she could pay a baby sitter and buy all the stuff they had at their house. How or they getting by now. They still have all their montly bills and all the other exp. Is george working now? Lee has moved in with them and I just can;t understand how they or getting by. I know they will make a lot of money of this story but right now some one has to be paying their bills. I hope casey never gets out of that jail.jmho

Stella Rose

01-20-2009, 05:03 PM

Shoot. She was tough enough to dig bamboo roots, and she had a shovel handy. This could go either way about close to the road or not.

Yeah, and I believe that about as much as anything the Anthonys have said. Have you ever tried to dig up bamboo? That's some really hard work.

Remy

01-20-2009, 05:04 PM

Question someone? Is $400 a wk normal to pay a sitter?
If so I am going up for hire!

Hey Newjunkie! My bff spent $400/wk sharing a nanny with another family and that was for 3 children under age 5 in Toronto.

The term "nanny" here means live in or out but they are contracted to look after only your children Mon - Fri.

Not that bad a job since there was hardly any duties beyond looking after the children and loading the plates they used into the dishwasher.

You would be amazed what people are willing to pay dog walkers and for doggie day care and they can't even talk and tell the owners if they really got to play in the park or not.

RockStarGirl

01-20-2009, 05:06 PM

ITA and she did not expect anyone to look that close to home. I can;t believe how she treats her mother and daddy. no respect for them at all. from the looks of their home they had everything they wanted. Cindy must have made a good salary. I don;t believe she could pay a baby sitter and buy all the stuff they had at their house. How or they getting by now. They still have all their montly bills and all the other exp. Is george working now? Lee has moved in with them and I just can;t understand how they or getting by. I know they will make a lot of money of this story but right now some one has to be paying their bills. I hope casey never gets out of that jail.jmho

Yes, martha I hope she never gets out also!! I wonder if they aren't doing a little better financially now that they don't have to keep paying for Casey and Caylee's expenses. Casey isn't stealing from anyone at the moment so they don't have to pay for anything there. Of course, I am being sarcastic they have plenty of regular, everyday expenses and lawyers, etc. Without working, I have no idea how they are doing it. There must have been a significant amount of money paid for interviews, photos, liscensing fees, etc. Makes me sick!

trich

01-20-2009, 05:07 PM

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/01/casey-anthony-case-what-about-wftvs-story-on-jose-baez.html

Casey Anthony case: State attorney's office slams WFTV's Baez report

Am I reading this correctly ....sounds as if the story about Baez and clnflict of interes
may not have any truth to it???????

lonetraveler

01-20-2009, 05:07 PM

One thing I noticed in that tape is that George never once tried to comfort Cindy. His hand was on the back of her chair but he never tried to hug her or even pat/rub her back.

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I noticed that too. Maybe he didn't want to make Casey jealous.

Leelee68

01-20-2009, 05:11 PM

I do think she could have carried Caylee through those woods. I have a 5 yr old who weighs 50lbs and I have carried her through a mall. My back hurt after but I did it and I weigh about 135. I don't think she cared about getting dirty at that point. She had to get rid of Caylee before someone found her in the trunk. She probably ran back home to take a quick shower so she can meet tony and put the dirty clothes in a bag that cindy ended up washing.

Katprint

01-20-2009, 05:14 PM

I agree. To much work. But if that girl couldn't carry 30 #s, than she should have crawled back in the womb.
The consensus seems to be that Casey could physically lift/carry 30 lbs farther than she carried Caylee's body from the roadway. However, Casey was too lazy to do such strenuous work, and after a couple of days in Casey's car trunk, Caylee's body would have been very "icky" so Casey wouldn't have wanted to touch it for long enough to carry it very far anyways.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

really3997

01-20-2009, 05:14 PM

101Spots

01-20-2009, 05:17 PM

The consensus seems to be that Casey could physically lift/carry 30 lbs farther than she carried Caylee's body from the roadway. However, Casey was too lazy to do such strenuous work, and after a couple of days in Casey's car trunk, Caylee's body would have been very "icky" so Casey wouldn't have wanted to touch it for long enough to carry it very far anyways.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Is that a legal term? :biggrin:

Katprint

01-20-2009, 05:22 PM

Is that a legal term? :biggrin:
Well, I didn't want to be more specific in describing the state of decomposition it would have been in by then, which was apparently bad enough to leave unpleasant smelling liquid residue stains behind. So, "icky" "yucky" "gacky" or whatever euphemism you prefer can be substituted in. :tonguewag:

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Stella Rose

01-20-2009, 05:23 PM

I don't know but I would think a body that's been in a trunk of a car for 2 days would be leeking fluid and loss of muscle and other things...would probably not weigh half her normal weight. Making it easier for Casey to tote and fling.

I doubt it would have lost much in 2 days - plus if you ever try to pick up a sleeping child - you know what "dead weight" is. It's a lot harder to carry that kind of weight with no assistance (arms around your neck, etc.)

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 05:24 PM

When lenny came on the scene he made a comment about the hassel that the Florida bails-bondsmen were giving him, I wonder what was the reason for that.

JMO

I thought it was because 500k was a huge bond in Fl, most of the local bail bonds could not afford to put up that money. I think LE thought it would keep her in jail and make her sweat eventually rollover and give up the truth. The bail bonds didn't like an outsider coming in and showing them up AND getting all that publicity.

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 05:26 PM

RiverWalk

01-20-2009, 05:30 PM

When lenny came on the scene he made a comment about the hassel that the Florida bails-bondsmen were giving him, I wonder what was the reason for that.

JMO

Maybe because he had his nephew be the bails-bondman and by passed the locals? The locals wouldn't have given him his $50K back either - which is just my supposition only.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 05:34 PM

Look by the pool is that a gate?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/071808cayleehomesearch/1/imgLg/071808searchathome1.jpg

Ladyhawk

01-20-2009, 05:37 PM

When lenny came on the scene he made a comment about the hassel that the Florida bails-bondsmen were giving him, I wonder what was the reason for that.

JMO

I really thought it was because her bond was a state bond and Lenny (or his nephew) wasn't licensed to bail bond in Florida...there needed to be a Florida Bonding Company signing on the bond or they couldn't do it. Actually it was a convoluted process with a completely separate company in Houston signing on also...there ended up being 3 different companies involved in that one thing.

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 05:37 PM

Some of the posters have looked at available photos of the A's backyard and can't see a back gate.

JMO

I thought it was said they used the back gate the night Cindy and Lee snuck out?

Ladyhawk

01-20-2009, 05:39 PM

Look by the pool is that a gate?

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/071808cayleehomesearch/1/imgLg/071808searchathome1.jpg

I believe the gate that is referred to as the "back gate" is actually the gate in the fence on the garage side of the house. IIRC in the Greta tour, this is the gate Cindy shows her. I don't think there is another gate in the yard.

jammies

01-20-2009, 05:42 PM

Some of the posters have looked at available photos of the A's backyard and can't see a back gate.

JMO

Maybe a side gate? We had fencing all around our house in TX. Private property behind so no "back" gate but one on the side that led to front yard and driveway. There has to be some sort of gate to go in and out of w/o going through the house.????

summer4meplz

01-20-2009, 05:47 PM

How? When? Where? I must of missed something. Is there no back gate?

TIA

is their pool ladder one of those kind that have steps on both sides? could they put it over the fence?

Stella Rose

01-20-2009, 05:52 PM

is their pool ladder one of those kind that have steps on both sides? could they put it over the fence?

Oooh! Good thinking. That is an awesome idea.

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 05:53 PM

That's what I was remembering, too.

Wonder if they went right by 'lil Caylee?

Just so sad.

JMO

I wonder how many times Casey drove past that area.:cursing:

IM4Truth

01-20-2009, 05:55 PM

I thought it was said they used the back gate the night Cindy and Lee snuck out?

Cindy & Lee snuck out? When? Where did they go? I don't remember that!

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 06:00 PM

Here is a pic of the pool ladder.

http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/412.jpg

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 06:01 PM

Am wondering now, when she went each day to Baez's office if she didn't have him drive that route, just because she knew and no one else did.

Just sick, IMO.

maybe someone can call in to NG when Lenny is on and ask if that is the route they took to get her to Jose's office, i'd love to know!!

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 06:01 PM

Cindy & Lee snuck out? When? Where did they go? I don't remember that!

Awhile ago, I think they went to the nursing home? it was in the middle of the night. IIRC.

floridamom

01-20-2009, 06:02 PM

maybe someone can call in to NG when Lenny is on and ask if that is the route they took to get her to Jose's office, i'd love to know!!

That road goes to the elem school and dead ends there. there is that small dirt road past it that the physics video taped, beyond a fence.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 06:03 PM

maybe someone can call in to NG when Lenny is on and ask if that is the route they took to get her to Jose's office, i'd love to know!!

I remember in the famous video where Baez opens the car door for Casey and they back out of the driveway they go the other way. Of course it was just that one time I remember.

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 06:03 PM

IIRC they snuck out on a night when there were a lot of protesters and TV vans and went to Lake Co. or something like that.
They claimed a success.

I think they were going to Mt Dora to see CIndy's folks and let them know the situation. they didn't want the press following them because the GGP's are in not so good shape physically.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 06:04 PM

IIRC they snuck out on a night when there were a lot of protesters and TV vans and went to Lake Co. or something like that.
They claimed a success.

Yep didn't Cindy tell the FBI that?

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 06:05 PM

Thank you 5Boxersmom.

YW. Why worry about the ladder when that storage container is right there? Caylee could have climbed up on it and been in the pool. :shrug:

ishkabibble

01-20-2009, 06:07 PM

She would not have to go that way, since it was on a dead end street.
From the house she would go directly to Chickasaw.

JMO

i'm not familiar at all with the area, thanks for that info. Casey would have known there wouldn't have been much traffic, even if she had to lug the body from her trunk on the side of the road into the woods, chances are she would not have been seen.

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 06:09 PM

This is O/T but WESH is saying they might have the killer of Jennifer Kesse.

Oh WOW, thanks MrLucky.

desmom

01-20-2009, 06:12 PM

Casey Anthony case: State attorney's office slams WFTV's Baez report
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/01/casey-anthony-case-what-about-wftvs-story-on-jose-baez.html

Daffodil

01-20-2009, 06:17 PM

Casey Anthony case: State attorney's office slams WFTV's Baez report
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/01/casey-anthony-case-what-about-wftvs-story-on-jose-baez.html

Correct me if I am wrong. But the statement seemed to imply that they do not want the issue of where and how Baez is getting paid to be tried in the public. It didn't sound like they were outright saying that Baez did nothing wrong. It just sounded like we will take care of it ourselves.

Did anyone else get that?

FoxySly

01-20-2009, 06:20 PM

I was thinking the same thing, but is it possible that the woods is so dense that it was hard tell just how close she was to the road? I'm not saying this is definately the way it was done, but sounds possible.

My Son weight 28 lbs at 10 months old, he did not walk until 13 months.
I can't remember his weight than but remember the 28 lbs at 10 months vividly as the doctor said he weight as much as a 2 year old.

I was a little younger than casey & I weight about 100 lbs but I carried the boy everywhere on my hip always (some say that is why he didn't walk until 13 months old but he also took off running that same day).

So IMO I just don't see casey having a problem especially with the adrenalin factor I am sure she would of had getting rid of the Child, her Child, that she had killed.

Sly

Rayosunshine

01-20-2009, 06:22 PM

Correct me if I am wrong. But the statement seemed to imply that they do not want the issue of where and how Baez is getting paid to be tried in the public. It didn't sound like they were outright saying that Baez did nothing wrong. It just sounded like we will take care of it ourselves.

Did anyone else get that?

Kind of thought it sounded like the State was telling the reporter not to report information that was not true, or had no basis of fact. Sounds like the State is tired of policing Casey's attorney.

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 06:24 PM

Can we say reaching for reason?
I don't know. Maybe the A's are trying to justify the choices that they've made? I am confused. I try to be objective and always coming away bias.

There is no justification IMO

trich

01-20-2009, 06:26 PM

Correct me if I am wrong. But the statement seemed to imply that they do not want the issue of where and how Baez is getting paid to be tried in the public. It didn't sound like they were outright saying that Baez did nothing wrong. It just sounded like we will take care of it ourselves.

Did anyone else get that?

when I posted that before I admitted I was not really sure what they were saying...it sounded like the story might have been made up.:shrug
I found it very confusing the way the article was written.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 06:26 PM

Can we say reaching for reason?
I don't know. Maybe the A's are trying to justify the choices that they've made? I am confused. I try to be objective and always coming away bias.

I have been confused since day 1. :biggrin:

martha

01-20-2009, 06:29 PM

Kind of thought it sounded like the State was telling the reporter not to report information that was not true, or had no basis of fact. Sounds like the State is tired of policing Casey's attorney.
I think you or so right they or tired of having to deal with this mess and it is costing the state so much money.If casey did this I hope they put her on some kind of work detail where she has to pay the state with every penny she gets. If there is any money made of movie or book deals then the state should get it. Even tim miller said they have used all their funds on this case.I just wish they would get a trial on now and stop this mess. So many people have been out so much money on this case. I think when someone goes to prison they need to be put to work not just put in there for the tax payers to keep up. No wonder some people don;t care for going to jail they get taken care of for the rest of their lives. While we have to work and make a living on our own.jmho

FoxySly

01-20-2009, 06:31 PM

:rose:

for you and your lil chubby babe.

Aww thanks. He's over 6'2" & 220 now.

Of course I carried my Son everywhere out of love but with casey having the adrenalin factor happening I don't doubt for a second she could carry Caylee far.

I'm sure most of us have heard of Mom's doing amazing things when it came to our Children (sadly casey's was for evil). One story I remember is the Mom the lifted up the back of a car to get her Child out.

Sly

Dells

01-20-2009, 06:33 PM

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 06:35 PM

:tonguewag: or do you mean day 31?

Yeah no kidding. What would it have been if the date had stuck on June 9th? Day 37. Funny Casey didn't say that on the 911 call, but said 31 days. :biggrin:

For such a good liar she messed up there.

jmo

martha

01-20-2009, 06:35 PM

Aww thanks. He's over 6'2" & 220 now.

Of course I carried my Son everywhere out of love but with casey having the adrenalin factor happening I don't doubt for a second she could carry Caylee far.

I'm sure most of us have heard of Mom's doing amazing things when it came to our Children (sadly casey's was for evil). One story I remember is the Mom the lifted up the back of a car to get her Child out.

SlyYou or so right.the adrenalin factor is something elce.It can make you do things that you your self would never believe you could do I know from things with my own self. with my children. when it takes over you just do it not thinking anything about what you or doing.I think God takes over your body and gives you strength you don;t know you have.jmho

breezie

01-20-2009, 06:40 PM

Correct me if I am wrong. But the statement seemed to imply that they do not want the issue of where and how Baez is getting paid to be tried in the public. It didn't sound like they were outright saying that Baez did nothing wrong. It just sounded like we will take care of it ourselves.

Did anyone else get that?

I got that the complaint wouldn't come to them. The Judge and the courts would handle it. I don't see anything that says it didn't happen. Just that they are not the ones saying it.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 06:42 PM

But if Casey did carry Caylee and put her there it was 2 days at least after her death. Would she still have adrenalin at this time?

jmo

Daffodil

01-20-2009, 06:43 PM

I got that the complaint wouldn't come to them. The Judge and the courts would handle it. I don't see anything that says it didn't happen. Just that they are not the ones saying it.

Okay, that makes sense.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 06:44 PM

WESH says 300 pages of doc's released to Baez today, should be available tomorrow or tonight on NG...

Oh I love ya. LOL Thank you.

Wish we had them right now though. :biggrin:

really3997

01-20-2009, 06:44 PM

is their pool ladder one of those kind that have steps on both sides? could they put it over the fence?

They have an extremely high fence FYI

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 06:45 PM

I agree. I was saying that the A's may be trying to justify what they have done as far as safeguarding the pool area. We were talking about the pool ladder and the storage container.

Oh I know honey, I wasn't jumping you.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 06:49 PM

I get confused to the dates and stuff. I'm not making up the lies, wonder if Inmate Anthony has a calendar where she lists all of her up-coming events, because, don't 'cha know, she is an event planner.

I bet if an officer could ask her what she has been doing the last three months she would say, ' Working at Universal.'

LOL while sitting in her room at the dorms. I can't believe she talks like that. Casey, it is a cell. :biggrin:

jmo

?noanswer

01-20-2009, 06:54 PM

IIRC they snuck out on a night when there were a lot of protesters and TV vans and went to Lake Co. or something like that.
They claimed a success.

They snuck out early one morning to go to the ALF where C's dad stays. They wanted to get there and talk to C's mom & the staff before LE could get there to interview C's dad. JMO

Elle

01-20-2009, 06:58 PM

Yeah no kidding. What would it have been if the date had stuck on June 9th? Day 37. Funny Casey didn't say that on the 911 call, but said 31 days. :biggrin:

For such a good liar she messed up there.

jmo

Hi 5boxersmom
And she stuck to the 9th even when during questioning Melich or Allen told her Ricardo said she slept over with Caylee on the 9th and that he last saw Caylee the morning of the 10th. She did not dispute what Ricardo said, yet kept with the 9th.

I don't think she is a good liar at all, I think she is ridiculous. imo

( I am a mastiff mom, but do think boxers are great!)

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 07:00 PM

Hi 5boxersmom
And she stuck to the 9th even when during questioning Melich or Allen told her Ricardo said she slept over with Caylee on the 9th and that he last saw Caylee the morning of the 10th. She did not dispute what Ricardo said, yet kept with the 9th.

I don't think she is a good liar at all, I think she is ridiculous. imo

( I am a mastiff mom, but do think boxers are great!)

Yes she did.

I love mastiffs too.

5boxersmom

01-20-2009, 07:02 PM

Its a cage, Casey, and you are really "in the best place".
Absolutely.

She knows all about dorm rooms from the time she spent in college down in southern florida. :rolleyes: studying to be an event planner, I guess.

What was the name of the friend of Caseys who said that it was her dream to be an event planner, and was taking courses towards that, and so she was a little 'pizzed" that an event planner job would have just been handed to casey, who had NOt gone to college (I think this was a high school friend, IIRC.)

OH I can't remember her name. Was it Lauren? Or Brittney?

Tracian

01-20-2009, 07:03 PM

You or so right.the adrenalin factor is something elce.It can make you do things that you your self would never believe you could do I know from things with my own self. with my children. when it takes over you just do it not thinking anything about what you or doing.I think God takes over your body and gives you strength you don;t know you have.jmho

As terrible as this is going to sound, another variable in this scenario, is that Casey was not concerned about the safe carrying of the child, as with alive children, we are careful in our handling of them, to ensure they are not injured, Casey would not have that concern, as her child was already deceased.

bhardy1956

01-20-2009, 07:07 PM

It was someones theory of what the prosecutions theory was. My theory of that persons theory of what they think the prosecutions theory is that it did not happen that way.

JMO

Huh? :huh:

Was it determined or not determined that their was a back gate, or is it a rumor of a theory that a person posted that theory?

aubrey04

01-20-2009, 07:08 PM

I wonder how many times Casey drove past that area.:cursing:

I have wondered that myself. Just being near that area would freak most people out. Isn't the Anthony house less than a mile away? Pretty freaky.

I don't think Casey was at the Anthony house much after June 24th though.

aubrey04

01-20-2009, 07:09 PM

It was someones theory of what the prosecutions theory was. My theory of that persons theory of what they think the prosecutions theory is that it did not happen that way.

JMO

:confused: .... :confused:

bhardy1956

01-20-2009, 07:11 PM

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I noticed that too. Maybe he didn't want to make Casey jealous.

I noticed that all he did was pick lint off the back of her shirt. The tape is the only time I ever felt sorry for Cindy, every other time, she just aggravated me!

WillowInFlight

01-20-2009, 07:14 PM

:wub:

I thought you didn't understand my post.
I just find myself going ying-yang over my feelings for G & C.
I can't help myself.
Their world has been destroyed. I would compare their loss to my family members from Katrina. IMO, I don't think they'll ever be able to get their lives back together.

JMO

No they won't, I don't see how they can move on from this. I'm like a yo yo too when it comes to them, Some days my heart breaks for them, then some days I get so mad at them I can't see straight.

aubrey04

01-20-2009, 07:15 PM

bhardy1956

01-20-2009, 07:22 PM

Huh? :huh:

Was it determined or not determined that their was a back gate, or is it a rumor of a theory that a person posted that theory?

Replying to my own post, I am just being silly about the confusing post MrLucky posted. But, seriously - ok the jury isn't out on there being a back gate. I get it.