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JLP
01-18-2009, 01:13 PM
I read that defense is testing little Caylee's remains for Genetic Disease !!

They cant be serious.

Just how low will they go ??

neid_77
01-18-2009, 01:17 PM
where did you read that at?

JLP
01-18-2009, 01:18 PM
Baez stated on Greta that they were testing Caylee for genetic diseases...

neid_77
01-18-2009, 01:35 PM
why would they be doing this? wouldn't past medical records for caylee have shown this??? wouldn't the family have known about it? :confused: what kind of game do they think they are playing here.....another casey anthony LIE!

september
01-18-2009, 01:35 PM
Baez stated on Greta that they were testing Caylee for genetic diseases...

So when Casey finds her daughter dead from this "disease" why didn't she... ah let's think this through ......so many choices

a) put her in the trunk of a car for days or

b) CALL 911

Really, really hard choice.

GMAB

FrankieBones1
01-18-2009, 06:04 PM
I read that defense is testing little Caylee's remains for Genetic Disease !!

They cant be serious.

Just how low will they go ??

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480477,00.html


I read the interview and didn't see this. Can you pinpoint the exact evening? This interview was Friday.

marshmallow
01-18-2009, 06:20 PM
wow i never heard that. didn't even see anything about it when i googled it. hmmmmmmm maybe they only said it on YOUR tv :D

didn't one of the bought medical drs say that might be what they were looking for?

?noanswer
01-18-2009, 08:49 PM
I didn't see NG, but others who saw it said there was a guest on there that said that. You know the type of guest that comes on a show and has not even heard of the case until the hosts asks them a question. I think this is the same guest that said some of Caylee's remains were in a snake. Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger!! JMO

kitty1182
01-18-2009, 09:12 PM
Is he really serious? Why doesn't he just say that aliens came down and killed her:rolleyes:

Give him time.lol

?noanswer
01-18-2009, 10:11 PM
ohhhhh so it wasn't Greta it was NG? yeah didn't see it on there either and she has transcripts, do you know what night it was?

Must have been Fri. night. I thought I was watching it until I woke up and it was over! JMO

kellabeck
01-18-2009, 10:26 PM
I read that defense is testing little Caylee's remains for Genetic Disease !!

They cant be serious.

Just how low will they go ??

Is there a genetic disease which puts one's body in a bag, head wrapped in duct tape and tosses it in a woods?? I hadn't heard of that.

But I have a name for it. Sociopathic Depravity.

kellabeck
01-18-2009, 10:28 PM
Just as low as Mark Gerageos saying that devils worshipers kidnapped Laci and put her in a van.:sneaky:

But first they kept her body in a vat of salt water and then they planted it in the Bay where Scott said he had been fishing. Please! You can't let slip any of the fabulous details from the mind of Mark Geragos. They are all, all gems.

NatalieB
01-18-2009, 11:35 PM
I never heard Baez say any such thing, but I did hear him say they are going to hold the remains until they get all the reports back from the medical examiner. This is what I suspected was holding the services up, but now it's been verified. I really think any defense team would do the same, but I surely don't like it.

Mamie
01-19-2009, 12:47 AM
Just as low as Mark Gerageos saying that devils worshipers kidnapped Laci and put her in a van.:sneaky:


I'm surprised he hasn't joined the Baez team yet, to tell the truth here. That's all they'd need, huh is Geragos? LOL. Oh, but then maybe he's tutoring JB. JMO

BobbisAngel
01-19-2009, 03:00 AM
But first they kept her body in a vat of salt water and then they planted it in the Bay where Scott said he had been fishing. Please! You can't let slip any of the fabulous details from the mind of Mark Geragos. They are all, all gems.


Don't forget the homeless people who probably put the vat in a shopping cart and paddled it out into the bay. Lord did he ever come up with some of the dumbest things I've ever heard of. I see he is finally showing his ugly mug on the talk shows again and giving his opinion...for what his opinon is worth.

BobbisAngel
01-19-2009, 03:07 AM
I never heard Baez say any such thing, but I did hear him say they are going to hold the remains until they get all the reports back from the medical examiner. This is what I suspected was holding the services up, but now it's been verified. I really think any defense team would do the same, but I surely don't like it.


I wonder why they need anything from the ME. They have hired every type of forsenic expert that money can buy. I see they have added Seral Whyect..Spelling...to their forensic people. That means they have three of the top forensic people on their dreamteam now. Then they have a bunch of others that I've never heard of. My opinion of Henry Lee, Michael Baden, and Whyect isn't the highest. I honestly don't think any of these bigwigs are going to help their case.

The ME was done with the autopsy ages ago. They must have gotten the results by now. They should be ashamed of holding up this baby girl's services all of this time.

donna
01-19-2009, 05:43 AM
This shouldn't even be a thread. This was not said.

Maybe a thread to discuss what WAS said would be good.

LisaM22
01-19-2009, 05:54 AM
Is there a genetic disease which puts one's body in a bag, head wrapped in duct tape and tosses it in a woods?? I hadn't heard of that.

But I have a name for it. Sociopathic Depravity.

maybe they are going for accidental death and then snapped after the death is why did not report it and then tried to cover it up later as she knew what she did was wrong and that no one would believe her - hard to tell

Dells
01-19-2009, 09:46 AM
maybe they are going for accidental death and then snapped after the death is why did not report it and then tried to cover it up later as she knew what she did was wrong and that no one would believe her - hard to tell

Yeah, but if it was accidental, wouldn't the defense have come up w/something by now? I can't see Casey sitting in jail charged w/1st degree murder w/out coming up w/some compelling evidence that this was accidental if in fact it was. I guess if it was accidental, I can't see why she wouldn't have cooperated w/LE from day 1, or I guess day 31 in her case... I personally feel that Casey's defense team is trying to get her off for the 1st degree murder of her daughter, and they will go as low as they have to go in order to get her off. I think it will get uglier than it already is once the trial starts. I don't think we have seen nothing yet in terms of what this defense team is going to do.

DoubleALady
01-19-2009, 10:38 AM
I didn't hear anyone intimate they were doing genetic testing on the baby's remains, either. But if they are, they may be testing to see if George or Lee could be the daddy. That's all we need in this wacky case.

texasgal
01-19-2009, 02:11 PM
This shouldn't even be a thread. This was not said.

Maybe a thread to discuss what WAS said would be good.

Okay, I'm game: from NG transcript Friday nite:

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell, in for Nancy Grace. Casey Anthony in heated conversation with her parents, Cindy and George, on August 14th, the very last time her parents visited her in jail. She was bailed out not long after this video was taken. Of course, she was later jailed again, and she`s in jail tonight, charged with the murder of her daughter, Caylee.

I want to go out to Dr. Keri Peterson, who is a doctor of internal medicine at Lenox Hill Hospital. Why no burial yet, Doctor? The family had said they would bury this child after the second autopsy was completed. That second autopsy reportedly has been completed, so what could be left?

DR. KERI PETERSON, PHYSICIAN: Well, from reports, I think that what they`re looking at is the DNA a little more deeply to see if they can uncover any underlying genetic conditions. And also the bones -- see, they haven`t released the autopsy reports, but you can extract from the bones some information about what caused this homicide. For example, if there is chloroform present in the bones, that can be determined through analysis.

And in addition, I think there was something about a snake that they were looking at. Perhaps there`s some remains inside a dead snake that they may be looking at to see if they can tie it into the body.

NatalieB
01-19-2009, 03:12 PM
I wonder why they need anything from the ME. They have hired every type of forsenic expert that money can buy. I see they have added Seral Whyect..Spelling...to their forensic people. That means they have three of the top forensic people on their dreamteam now. Then they have a bunch of others that I've never heard of. My opinion of Henry Lee, Michael Baden, and Whyect isn't the highest. I honestly don't think any of these bigwigs are going to help their case.

The ME was done with the autopsy ages ago. They must have gotten the results by now. They should be ashamed of holding up this baby girl's services all of this time.

I agree!

I didn't realize Michael Baden joined the team though. I know his wife will sit opposite Jose Baez. Are we talking about, Spector 1, chapter 2, here? Michael Baden couldn't even define a conflict of interest when he testified for Spector.

As for Cyril Wecht, it's just showing more and more how intelligent Baez is not. The world knows these are nothing but hired guns now, and these experts do more harm than good today, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I realize these are the tops in their respective fields, but when the world knows your opinion is for sale, where is the benefit? If this is going to come down to a battle of the experts, it would damn well be in your client's best interest to hire experts who are believable. Round 1 to the state, IMO. They better watch their step because the state already has too much on their side where Casey's behavioral issues are concerned. With this crew, it's already, game over, IMO.

I think Jose Baez just wants to be somebody. Unfortunately for him, he's about to get that wish. He'll start out a has been.

TxLady2
01-19-2009, 06:16 PM
The word "disease" was not mentioned... he said genetic conditions.... lot of difference. And he really has no idea what they are doing, since he is not on the defense team. He was giving his opinion... period.
Please don't start bashing anyone just because of something someone not even familiar with the case says on Nancy Grace. That is not even a good reference for the truth in this case.

JLP
01-19-2009, 11:42 PM
Was that Friday night's Greta? Because I watched that one yesterday and I did not hear Baez say anything of the sort. Where are the transcripts to this show?:confused:

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Comment by ♥♥ Masada ♥♥
January 18th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
I believe it was on the interview on Thursday I believe when Greta questioned him on why Caylee had not been interred, He spoke about waiting for the test results done by the prosecution and then added that he was testing for genetic diseases and would follow up with confirmation testing as needed.
Which Greta did not comment on. I found this surprising as Caylee was almost 3 years old and Cindy had stated she was healthy. But leaving not stone unturned I guess he is looking for something, anything that would bring natural causes.
He mentioned natural causes earlier which is a strange manner of death for a 2 year old.

AlohaRainbow
01-20-2009, 03:12 AM
Okay - so let's assume she had a genetic disease (though she showed no outward signs of autism or down syndrome). Is the defense going to say that Caylee actually opened the trunk on her own, crawled in, and shut it? Tot-Momster, just by chance, had a bottle of chloroform in said trunk - which killed the genetically altered child.

The only way I would believe Caylee had a genetic disease is if Lee is the father. But that doesn't mount to a hill of beans to me. There's still no excuse to bind her mouth and dump her in swamp filled waters.

If this is the best they can come up with - many a juror will be laughing!

Jose may have won 32 out of 34 cases, but my bet is he's about to go for 35 cases - won 32.

Best,
if it's true that the defense is testing for genetic diseases/conditions, it sounds like they hope to show that caylee's death was due to "natural" causes [of course, then they'd have to explain why casey didn't report it and why she "dumped" caylee like a sack of garbage :sad:]. imo, i highly doubt they'll find any genetic condition that would have caused caylee's death [unless one would consider having casey as a parent a "genetic condition" :ohmy: ]

but, i don't fault the defense for trying (hoping) to find evidence that would point to a "natural" cause of death instead of murder

there are a lot of genetic conditions besides autism and down's (trisomy), eg sickle cell anemia, cystic fibrosis, hemophilia, phenylketonuria etc. and some may not show up (present symptoms) for weeks/months/years.

a few genetic diseases (very short list!)
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/genetic-diseases-list-disorders.html

the bottom line that ita with you on "There's still no excuse to bind her mouth and dump her in swamp filled waters."

BobbisAngel
01-20-2009, 06:19 AM
I agree!

I didn't realize Michael Baden joined the team though. I know his wife will sit opposite Jose Baez. Are we talking about, Spector 1, chapter 2, here? Michael Baden couldn't even define a conflict of interest when he testified for Spector.

As for Cyril Wecht, it's just showing more and more how intelligent Baez is not. The world knows these are nothing but hired guns now, and these experts do more harm than good today, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I realize these are the tops in their respective fields, but when the world knows your opinion is for sale, where is the benefit? If this is going to come down to a battle of the experts, it would damn well be in your client's best interest to hire experts who are believable. Round 1 to the state, IMO. They better watch their step because the state already has too much on their side where Casey's behavioral issues are concerned. With this crew, it's already, game over, IMO.

I think Jose Baez just wants to be somebody. Unfortunately for him, he's about to get that wish. He'll start out a has been.



I don't know if Michael Baden is legally on the Dream Team but you can bet he has his nose in this case. His wife says that they don't discuss their cases...sure they don't! I forgot about that guy that Nancy Grace used to have on her show all of the time who teaches fornesic something. He made sense before he got hired by Casey. Since then he talks out of the other side of his mouth! Pretty interesting the way his opinions changed. Henry Lee made a fool of himself during Michael Peterson's trial when he spit ketsup on a white board. He screwed up bad at OJ Simpson's trial. If it wasn't for him OJ would have been in prison years ago.

I've heard jurors say that when each side have forensic people on the stand who say the opposite things the jurors just ignore everything they say...on both sides. Casey's goose is cooked without all of those bigwigs getting their two cents in there. JB is just pitiful. I think he has a thing for his client but he sure isn't doing her any good.

BobbisAngel
01-20-2009, 06:23 AM
Okay - so let's assume she had a genetic disease (though she showed no outward signs of autism or down syndrome). Is the defense going to say that Caylee actually opened the trunk on her own, crawled in, and shut it? Tot-Momster, just by chance, had a bottle of chloroform in said trunk - which killed the genetically altered child.

The only way I would believe Caylee had a genetic disease is if Lee is the father. But that doesn't mount to a hill of beans to me. There's still no excuse to bind her mouth and dump her in swamp filled waters.

If this is the best they can come up with - many a juror will be laughing!

Jose may have won 32 out of 34 cases, but my bet is he's about to go for 35 cases - won 32.




Best,


Were his cases murder cases? Was there as much evidence as there is in this one? Did he think the other clients were "special?"

Annie143
01-20-2009, 02:02 PM
Henry Lee made a fool of himself during Michael Peterson's trial when he spit ketsup on a white board.

I thought I was the only one who remembered this.

awareness
01-20-2009, 03:41 PM
So when Casey finds her daughter dead from this "disease" why didn't she... ah let's think this through ......so many choices

a) put her in the trunk of a car for days or

b) CALL 911

Really, really hard choice.

GMAB

truth.com/serious

NatalieB
01-20-2009, 06:20 PM
I thought I was the only one who remembered this.

Nah, I think we all remember this!

Let's also add in that during the first Spector trial, Henry Lee testified (in the mini trial within a trial - not in front of jurors) that it's A-OK to collect forensic evidence on Post It Notes. :thumbsup:

IMO, Henry Lee is set for life. Heinz and Hunts would probably hire him in a heartbeat, as would Post It, I'm sure.

CaféAuLait's
01-20-2009, 08:53 PM
The word "disease" was not mentioned... he said genetic conditions.... lot of difference. And he really has no idea what they are doing, since he is not on the defense team. He was giving his opinion... period.
Please don't start bashing anyone just because of something someone not even familiar with the case says on Nancy Grace. That is not even a good reference for the truth in this case.


He said:


"...see if they can uncover any underlying genetic conditions..."

IMO you are splitting hairs. "Disease" Vs "underlying genetic conditions" ----there is no difference. I knew what the OP meant and they are testing for problems, conditions, illness, etc, which many defense attorneys do so they can blame the victim and not the criminal.

richmondst
01-21-2009, 02:25 PM
I read that defense is testing little Caylee's remains for Genetic Disease !!

They cant be serious.

Just how low will they go ??

and if they are? No big deal. Her mother still killed her and put her in a trash bag.

Babes
01-22-2009, 04:51 AM
I think Jose Baez just wants to be somebody. Unfortunately for him, he's about to get that wish. He'll start out a has been.

IMO Baez wanted to update his Resume and add to his Experience that he worked with Baden and the rest of the gang :scared:

Babes
01-22-2009, 06:23 AM
maybe they are going for accidental death and then snapped after the death is why did not report it and then tried to cover it up later as she knew what she did was wrong and that no one would believe her - hard to tell


IMO Accidental Death might not fly - it wont fly to me - because of the presence of the Duct Tape covering the mouth of the little kid...I dont think the Jury will buy the idea that Caylee placed that Duct Tape on her mouth by herself either :sad:

IMO Casey killed the poor child.