Sunday January 18/09 - Part 1

[aubrey04]

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http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7128&page=2

uhm, I read some of the posts... and all I can say is: weird and kooky.. Maybe Casey does have a chance of getting off on the charges.

[gaelicpeas]

Aren't water meters in the grassy part out front in between the sidewalk and the yard? Everywhere I have ever lived that is where they have been located. You know the part that the A's always were taping off with their caution tape. :confused: Electric and gas meters can be in a back or side yard but I have never seen a water meter in side or back yard. But I have never lived in FL either.My water, gas, and electric meters are all in my basement and can be viewed from the outside via a tiny window. (ETA: oops, I just realized that houses in Florida don't have basements, so never mind!)

[seeing_eye]

Are we back to that picture again? I looked at that last week and came to the conclusion that if we are having a hard time deciphering what it is (50% of us couldn't) then it will never make it to the jury so what's the point of debating. I know what some think it is and are looking at it anyway. Which tells me that the State is right when it said that somebody somewhere is going to be rubbernecking to see the photo's of the remains and this is the sole reason I am worried about Caylee being buried right now. If someone wants to see that so badly, then there is money to be made on digging up Caylee's grave. I don't like that idea at all.

That picture is a closeup of what many think is Caylee's yellow book at the crime scene. The "child in a bag" is what many people think may be an old family photo of a man that's laying next to and slightly under the book.

[sunstar]

She will probably dress up like she did at the PC. Glasses and suit.
Image didnt work for scott peterson and I dont think when jurors see the evidence it will work for her either.
A pig is still a pig even if you put clothes on them.

Comparing Casey to a pig is really insulting the pig, imo. :wink:

[cloe23]

They will more than likely get the same info during the trial SS

Plus more:biggrin:

[aubrey04]

It is strange that there were people, who obviously kept up with the case more than the average public, who actually believed Caylee was alive until her body was found..

It is even more strange that there were people who believed that Zanny the nanny actually exists and is real.

:confused:

[CelticDawn]

Isn't it California that allows in past bad priors? I like this law. IMO it helped to send David Westerfield to the chair.
I wish that all laws were federal so to be fair and easier accessed by both the defence and prosecution. jmo
I also love the sunshine law!

In Louisiana there is a three strikes law...so if you have priors they can get you life in prison. also prior bad acts can show pattern of crimminal behaviour otherwise.

[sunstar]

Ok- just wanted to know if that is something that would stay in contact for a while or not. TY- IMO-

As for being able to be detected when her remains were found, I'm not sure about that. I was just thinking if it were it could be easily explained without drowning being the cause of death. :) MOO

[PuffDragon]

Its possible that is the case. But right now Im not giving Casey that benefit of the doubt because it would take effort and forethought to plan it and Im just not seeing her going to that length..

But its possible..

jmo

I think Casey's death and disposal predated the abduction story. I don't think Casey expected to be found out and when Cindy unexpectedly demanded answers Casey started spinning her stories on the fly.

[FoxySly]

I must of misunderstood the question then - I thought he was reading Electric Meter Boxes - I have a well so I don't have a bill for water.....sorry can't answer that question.

I have my own water well also. And because I have a electric pump my water bill is part of my power bill.

Out here we 'own' the power company (co-op) that is 72 miles from my property.
But we don't meter readers come out, it is all done at the power company. They can & do read our meters in Pahrump, NV.

The last time anyone that works for the power company came out here was close to 5 years ago when they brought out my meter box & the 3poles (that I had to pay for) to connect my property to other power lines.

I am surprised that there still are meter readers, I thought it was all done like it is here in the middle of nowhere.

Sly

[daHawg]

My water, gas, and electric meters are all in my basement and can be viewed from the outside via a tiny window. (ETA: oops, I just realized that houses in Florida don't have basements, so never mind!)

I guess it's different in different areas. Ours in in the grassy strip. Just little cement thing that has a lift up lid on it that the reader lifts with a metal hook type thing and reads it. Our shut off is located along side the house. Interesting to hear that it is located in other areas I would have never have known. Learn sumthin new everyday.:biggrin:

[ConchGirl]

Hiya Savannah Star! Wish we had a Fla lawyer too. I may have one soon.
My concerns for the possible negative legal effects on the case of the information being released directly and officially from=not leaks from=the Sheriff's Office and the State Attorney's Office prompted my many hours of research and posting from August 27, 2008 to Christmas.
These just refer mostly to material published prior to discovery material being asked for by defense.
All this may be seen at Legal Information beginning here and I ask that you read my posts if interested in this issue and I will supplement:

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http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7128&page=2

Wow, I went to that site and I feel really dumb. I will check it out again later because it if full of valuable information from very intelligent posters. Thanks.

[gaelicpeas]

Are you sure it was a real trial? Sounds like the movie Twelve Angry Men.
You are correct.... the earlier posts referenced that movie.

[?noanswer]

Here's the video of the wacky lady who took the trash from the Anthony Home. http://www.wftv.com/video/17429655/index.html

Did anyone notice the white piece of paper that blew away and someone was holding it. It said "Dad" and the first words looks like please call and there was other writing. It looked like KC handwriting.

I hope that trash bag ended up in LE's possession. If it came from the A's house, it might match up with the one that Caylee's body was in.

JMO

[SavannahStar]

My water, gas, and electric meters are all in my basement and can be viewed from the outside via a tiny window. (ETA: oops, I just realized that houses in Florida don't have basements, so never mind!)

I'm in FL (not Orange County though) and my water meter is in the front yard close to the street.

No, we have no basements. :biggrin: (I miss that!)

[apothecary]

January Would the accident theory also explain her complete lack of grief or guilt over the death of her daughter.A true accident would have had a different reaction.She displayed no signs of sadness at all neither in the beginning or even now

[CelticDawn]

Casey was probably hoping for the makeover and etiquette coaches, as well.

She probably didn't realize they aren't going to let her out of her cell 6 hours a day to pass the time, like she did with baez when she was on 'house arrest".

She might have to look for some self-help magazine articles in the Female Unit day Room for some of that. :tongue:
I thought she was on lockdown for 23 hours a day.....When does she get to this library or anywhere else inside the jail system for that matter?

ETIQUETTE????CASEY thinks SHE is ALREADY PERFECT. :lol:

[ConchGirl]

Did anyone notice the white piece of paper that blew away and someone was holding it. It said "Dad" and the first words looks like please call and there was other writing. It looked like KC handwriting.

I hope that trash bag ended up in LE's possession. If it came from the A's house, it might match up with the one that Caylee's body was in.

JMO

Pic #6 shows the note clearly that says "dad, Please call OCSO so we have security for the prayer tonight." Creepy imo http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17429672/detail.html

[apothecary]

oops should have said nor not or

[RiverWalk]

I spent a couple of hours today going back through the links looking for all of Kronk's calls, his statement with his lawyer, and his GMA interview (only to get back here after I found them all to see that you had posted them, River - lol!). Anyway, I completely agree with you - there are no inconsistencies in his calls/statements/interview. JMO

Hi friend. Mr. Kronk has given 0 inconsistent statements. Can't say the same for "sources". lol.

I love your 10 yards = 30 feet!!! I mean how far is that? First and 10!! Great analogy that anyone can SEE.

moo
PS Casey Anthony will NEVER take the stand in her own defense. MOO

[?noanswer]

If that was the theory then heres how it could have happened... She dies in trunk Casey thinks how can I get out of this..Got it I'll make it look like an accident.She takes her out of trunk lays her in the playhouse then takes her to pool maybe she hears something so then she hides her in the sandbox that has the lid.......IMO that why she borrowed shovel she really didnt want to touch her or the things that had decomp on them. Then she figures out well maybe I'll jusy use the kidnapping story....Everything that was in trunk was scooped up into the bags..Just a thought..


That sounds a lot like one of LP's theories! He said he thought that was why she borrowed the shovel because after she threw her in she sank to the bottom and she used the shovel to lift her up. JMO

[read-in]

I think Casey's death and disposal predated the abduction story. I don't think Casey expected to be found out and when Cindy unexpectedly demanded answers Casey started spinning her stories on the fly.

Im thinking you just nailed it puff

[desmom]

I think Casey's death and disposal predated the abduction story. I don't think Casey expected to be found out and when Cindy unexpectedly demanded answers Casey started spinning her stories on the fly.

I agree! :beer:

[RiverWalk]

He works for Orange County, electric and gas are private companies, he is a water meter reader.

JMO

I believe he is too, but what do I know? lol

[CelticDawn]

January Would the accident theory also explain her complete lack of grief or guilt over the death of her daughter.A true accident would have had a different reaction.She displayed no signs of sadness at all neither in the beginning or even now

Howdy...
Im not January and I dont believe it was an accident.....BUT....I can see her having NO GRIEF because IMO she was very jealous of Caylee....<the ugliest of emotions>....she hated caylee because her mother Cindy looked favorably upon the child.....

[read-in]

The Female Unit day Room is not the library.

I don't know if shes allowed library priv. or if her jail even has a library. That's why I said magazines in the day room.
Theres not too much about makeover's in the bible, IIRC.

you go Abbie:laugh:

[gaelicpeas]

Unless you're trying to get a first down or touchdown!!! JMO

(lol, especially if you are the Eagles)

So, last week Conway said the body would be released this week. It wasn't. How long will it be before Caylee is buried?

[trich]

That sounds a lot like one of LP's theories! He said he thought that was why she borrowed the shovel because after she threw her in she sank to the bottom and she used the shovel to lift her up. JMO

The only trouble with using the shovel to get her out of the pool...
It would be almost impossible to lift Caylee's lifeless body out of the water with that shovel IMO.
Also Casey would have gotten wet in the process.
I have had pools at all my 3 homes...in the ground and on top of the ground and it is not easy to haul anything out of a pool sopping wet.
She may have been able to pull the body towards the side of the pool but to get the shovel underneath and lift her out would have been
extremely difficult for Casey as little as she is.
And I repeat Casey would have gotten wet in the process if by chance she was able to accomplish that.

[gaelicpeas]

He works for Orange County, electric and gas are private companies, he is a water meter reader.

JMO
Thanks, Mr Lucky... thought so.

[ConchGirl]

Pic #6 shows the note clearly that says "dad, Please call OCSO so we have security for the prayer tonight." Creepy imo http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17429672/detail.html

Forgive me for quoting myself but look at pic # 6 to the right of the note to Dad it has money figures that I can't quite make out. Help me out peeps.

ETA: who said crime doesn't pay?

[RiverWalk]

Doesn't ring a bell. I remember there was speculation on message boards Caylee's body had been doubled bag. I will look around a little bit and see if I can find it. jmo

At the most recent hearing, the female DA/SA said BAGS (plural) and duct tape waiting for testing from the FBI. That is where that is coming from. We all heard her say BAGS (plural).

moo

[Unperson1984]

Is it possible that Casey used the shovel to pry the shed door open to get to the gas cans?

[gaelicpeas]

I'm in FL (not Orange County though) and my water meter is in the front yard close to the street.

No, we have no basements. :biggrin: (I miss that!)I lived in Florida for 8 years, and as soon as I typed basements and hit send, I realized what a stupid comment I had made! But, I have absolutely no memory of how meters were read when I lived there.

[ConchGirl]

Is it possible that Casey used the shovel to pry the shed door open to get to the gas cans?

No because TonE said he used a crowbar IIRC.

[aubrey04]

(lol, especially if you are the Eagles)

So, last week Conway said the body would be released this week. It wasn't. How long will it be before Caylee is buried?

Unfortunately there has never been a rush to find Caylee or bury her.. there wasn't a rush BEFORE she was found and there certainly isn't a rush now.

The public has been impatient and anxious to bury little Caylee.. but her own family doesn't seem to care.

:angry:

[CelticDawn]

The Female Unit day Room is not the library.

I don't know if shes allowed library priv. or if her jail even has a library. That's why I said magazines in the day room.
Theres not too much about makeover's in the bible, IIRC.
Oh OK..Like a common area?......Im sure they would have some reading material...<mags> there...

actually if she really FOLLOWED the Bible it would be her ultimate makeover ...<from demon to human?>

[read-in]

Is it possible that Casey used the shovel to pry the shed door open to get to the gas cans?

Very good point, had not that of that:biggrin:

[?noanswer]

Pic #6 shows the note clearly that says "dad, Please call OCSO so we have security for the prayer tonight." Creepy imo http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17429672/detail.html

Thanks, I had not seen that before. Pity she didn't have "Dad" call OCSO when the "Nanny" kidnapped Caylee. JMO

[Cury-us Coyote]

Is it possible that Casey used the shovel to pry the shed door open to get to the gas cans?

IIRC, one of TonE's subsequent statements alleged he used a crowbar to enter the shed.
jmo

[aubrey04]

No because TonE said he used a crowbar IIRC.

You recall correctly. :)

[cloe23]

In Louisiana there is a three strikes law...so if you have priors they can get you life in prison. also prior bad acts can show pattern of crimminal behaviour otherwise.

When I said bad past priors I was thinking rape, murder, pedophilia, armed robbery, attempted murder.... Something done in the past by a defendant that supports they have a history of violent crimes and or are similar to the particular crime that is being prosecuted.
Three strikes your out sounds like a very elementary-generic solution for something so as important as the court of law. JMO :thumbdown:
It is laws like this that I hear of that supports my wish that all laws were federal.

[CuriousJo]

IMO - the reason why many have a hard time believe this was an accident was because of the computer searches for neck breaking, chloriform, tv show dealing with kidnapping---back in March. No, this was premeditated- or- thought about, and it accidentally occurred prematurely early. Also, I don't care how much fun you are having partying, - you don't go get a tattoo Its a Good Life after you "accidentally" kill your daughter. Its not like her friends drag her in there to do it, she scheduled an appointment on her own.

[ConchGirl]

Second number looks like $500.00.
Above the numbers it says "George W."

huh. wonder what that's all about???? Looks like $500,000 to me but my eyes are not what they used to be. moo

[snowflakes]

IIRC, one of TonE's subsequent statements alleged he used a crowbar to enter the shed.
jmo

I'm surprised that he did that. Why didn't he just give her money for gas?

[Unperson1984]

IIRC, one of TonE's subsequent statements alleged he used a crowbar to enter the shed.
jmo


IIRC she stole the gas more than once.

[FrankieBones1]

TY Neffy. I'm not worried. After all, I'm being given "the benefit of the doubt." Whew, what a relief! All I have to do is wait for ten posters to remind us which real trial it was.:rolleyes:
Hi, Joolz. I keep checking back in to find anyone of those ten posters that will let us know which trial it was. I'm almost sure it was a work of fiction, though.

[ConchGirl]

I'm surprised that he did that. Why didn't he just give her money for gas?

I'd chalk that right up there with things we will never understand. :lol: The rest of the world does not think like us :wink:

[gaelicpeas]

Hi friend. Mr. Kronk has given 0 inconsistent statements. Can't say the same for "sources". lol.

I love your 10 yards = 30 feet!!! I mean how far is that? First and 10!! Great analogy that anyone can SEE.

moo
PS Casey Anthony will NEVER take the stand in her own defense. MOO
Hey River! I agree completely. Just reading 3 or 4 news articles about the same event, it is clear to see that some get the details wrong.

[Cury-us Coyote]

IIRC she stole the gas more than once.

IA, but afaik the lock was not repaired and broken a second time.
jmo

[?noanswer]

It always bothers me that ppl call rapist ect animals.

Animals do not rape or torture for fun,

It always bother me when an animal analogy is used. People come with high functioning brains. People should know better than to commit crimes. Some animals act like they have more brains than humans.

JMO

[AnnInOhio]

Why is it when you don't agree your accused of baiting? I'm just tagging on to your post and not having a private conversation with you.

If I was I'd pm you.

I don't agree with Greta either. I bet I'm baiting her too! LOL

Maybe its simply a case of 'You say, "debating"' and 'I say, "de baiting"'? Well okay, I don't, but somebody does.

[CuriousJo]

I'm surprised that he did that. Why didn't he just give her money for gas?

Maybe Casey refused for him to buy gas, because she didn't want to have to pay him back. She could steal her dads gas for free!

[PuffDragon]

Howdy...
Im not January and I dont believe it was an accident.....BUT....I can see her having NO GRIEF because IMO she was very jealous of Caylee....<the ugliest of emotions>....she hated caylee because her mother Cindy looked favorably upon the child.....

I don't believe she was jealous, for several reasons. First, because I don't think she's capable of feeling real emotions, and second, because she told Jesse (I think it was Jesse) that she thought he liked Caylee better than her. If she said that, I don't believe it and I figure she was saying it to manipulate him.
I would agree that she probably was resentful of Caylee, though..... for standing between Casey and everything she wanted to do. Also, Casey had honed her craft, she was probably good at her act, but now she had an almost-three-year old distracting her audience and making it hard to keep the focus on her where she needed it. Yes, I'd say Casey resented Caylee.

[tvdinners]

Looks like $500,000 to me but my eyes are not what they used to be. moo

To me, looks like:

George W

$2500
$200,000 ?
$500,000 ?

and further down,
psychic pens
carrots

==========

My first thought was - debts incurred by George, and a shopping list.

[AnnInOhio]

I'm surprised that he did that. Why didn't he just give her money for gas?

You have to get the car to the gas pump for that to work. I suspect Tony was after the cans, not the gas.

[aubrey04]

When I said bad past priors I was thinking rape, murder, pedophilia, armed robbery, attempted murder.... Something done in the past by a defendant that supports they have a history of violent crimes and or are similar to the particular crime that is being prosecuted.
Three strikes your out sounds like a very elementary-generic solution for something so as important as the court of law. JMO :thumbdown:
It is laws like this that I hear of that supports my wish that all laws were federal.

Were you talking about "prior bad acts" like the stuff that came out @ Phil Spector trial? He was never convicted of his "prior bad acts" but they were allowed in at trial.. That's why we got to see all those women testify about Spector terrorizing them with a gun and holding them captive in his mansion.

[gaelicpeas]

Is it possible that Casey used the shovel to pry the shed door open to get to the gas cans?No, TonE cracked it open with a crowbar, IIRC, per his 2nd (corrected) interview with LE.

[Elle]

The only trouble with using the shovel to get her out of the pool...
It would be almost impossible to lift Caylee's lifeless body out of the water with that shovel IMO.
Also Casey would have gotten wet in the process.
I have had pools at all my 3 homes...in the ground and on top of the ground and it is not easy to haul anything out of a pool sopping wet.
She may have been able to pull the body towards the side of the pool but to get the shovel underneath and lift her out would have been
extremely difficult for Casey as little as she is.
And I repeat Casey would have gotten wet in the process if by chance she was able to accomplish that.

IMO the the borrowing of the shovel along with the bamboo story was Caseys attempt to give herself an alibi for that time period. I don't think she used the shovel for anything. Just wanted her neighbor, who she knew saw her because he was out in the yard, to believe that is why she was there...in case it should ever come up.

above is moo, I just dont think she used it for anything, just an excuse.

[magnolia]

I lived in Florida for 8 years, and as soon as I typed basements and hit send, I realized what a stupid comment I had made! But, I have absolutely no memory of how meters were read when I lived there.

There ARE some houses in Florida with basements. For sure. Not many though.

[sunstar]

That sounds a lot like one of LP's theories! He said he thought that was why she borrowed the shovel because after she threw her in she sank to the bottom and she used the shovel to lift her up. JMO

I laughed at that theory because it would take somebody much stronger than Casey seems to be to accomplish it. MOO

[CelticDawn]

Hey River! I agree completely. Just reading 3 or 4 news articles about the same event, it is clear to see that some get the details wrong.

get the details wrong???...:lol: more like MAKE UP detail dont you think?

[gaelicpeas]

There ARE some houses in Florida with basements. For sure. Not many though.
Maybe in north Florida. None of the 6 places I lived in had basements. but JMO.

[CuriousJo]

I wonder if Casey borrowed the shovel because she was going to bury Caylee back there. But, found out it was way too much work to dig a hole and decided against it. Just hid her in the play house or sandbox for brief time period, then car trunk, the The Zone woods.

[gaelicpeas]

get the details wrong???...:lol: more like MAKE UP detail dont you think? Maybe... or maybe "picked up" sounds like "kicked". Who knows...

[CelticDawn]

When I said bad past priors I was thinking rape, murder, pedophilia, armed robbery, attempted murder.... Something done in the past by a defendant that supports they have a history of violent crimes and or are similar to the particular crime that is being prosecuted.
Three strikes your out sounds like a very elementary-generic solution for something so as important as the court of law. JMO :thumbdown:
It is laws like this that I hear of that supports my wish that all laws were federal.

I too wish that there was uniform laws throughout the nation....all Federal...That would stop some of this....although I dont see anything actually wrong with the three strikes law as it is applied to felons.

[magnolia]

Maybe in north Florida. None of the 6 places I lived in had basements. but JMO.

Central Florida does also but like I said, not many.

[Neffy]

Maybe its simply a case of 'You say, "debating"' and 'I say, "de baiting"'? Well okay, I don't, but somebody does.


De baiting?

Hmm if used like De frost which would be removing something that wouldnt be right. Or De like in Defeat like win over unless of course we're talking about DEfeet like where I hang my shoes.

ROFL

So where've ya been! Snowed in I'd imagine at this point in time.

What's your take on the "lost" tapes.

Nice to see you back.

[?noanswer]

Second number looks like $500.00.
Above the numbers it says "George W."

huh. wonder what that's all about????


One of the numbers looks like $500,000. and another looks like 15,000. Wonder if they were writing down bids for photos!!!! JMO

[AnnInOhio]

De baiting?

Hmm if used like De frost which would be removing something that wouldnt be right. Or De like in Defeat like win over unless of course we're talking about DEfeet like where I hang my shoes.

ROFL

So where've ya been! Snowed in I'd imagine at this point in time.

What's your take on the "lost" tapes.

Nice to see you back.

I'm embarrassingly behind. What "lost" tapes??

[?noanswer]

There ARE some houses in Florida with basements. For sure. Not many though.

If someone tried to put a basement under a FL house, they most likely would end up with a swimming pool!! JMO

[Lavenia]

Started new thread when you're ready.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=347999

[CelticDawn]

Maybe... or maybe "picked up" sounds like "kicked". Who knows...

Its just really hard to call some of these discrepancies/differences ...

sorry after geraldos MIStake I am a little frustrated.

[magnolia]

If someone tried to put a basement under a FL house, they most likely would end up with a swimming pool!! JMO


Not sure why this is hard to believe, but I live in Florida and was just in a friend's basement three weeks ago.

[gaelicpeas]

Its just really hard to call some of these discrepancies/differences ...

sorry after geraldos MIStake I am a little frustrated.Oh, I agree completely with your assessment of Geraldo, Celtic. I was talking about local Orlando TV/newspaper stories.

[ConchGirl]

One of the numbers looks like $500,000. and another looks like 15,000. Wonder if they were writing down bids for photos!!!! JMO

In the meantime Caylee was in a garbage bag. Ironic that this info came from their trash. moo

[gaelicpeas]

Not sure why this is hard to believe, but I live in Florida and was just in a friend's basement three weeks ago.
I am not disputing you... I have just never seen a basement in any house I lived in in Florida. lol, not really important...

[5boxersmom]

One of the numbers looks like $500,000. and another looks like 15,000. Wonder if they were writing down bids for photos!!!! JMO

Maybe. $500,000 was the amount of her bail right?

[ConchGirl]

Not sure why this is hard to believe, but I live in Florida and was just in a friend's basement three weeks ago.

Must be South Georgia as we say in these here parts. :rolleyes:

[Neffy]

I'm embarrassingly behind. What "lost" tapes??

Their was a supposed oversight in the AUG 14 jail visit from George and Cindy Anthony.

Baez entered a motion for it's release citing police misconduct (as supposedly evidenced in the tapes) so we were patiently waiting their release.

Give me a second to get a link for you.

[read-in]

There ARE some houses in Florida with basements. For sure. Not many though.

UUHHMMM, with all those hurricanes, i would have thought there would be many basements:blink:dont know just a thought...

[CelticDawn]

Oh, I agree completely with your assessment of Geraldo, Celtic. I was talking about local Orlando TV/newspaper stories.

Yes...as far as what Mr Kronk actually did, said he did, the media said he said he did....It does get a bit confusing as to what is right and what is third party hearsay.

[gaelicpeas]

UUHHMMM, with all those hurricanes, i would have thought there would be many basements:blink:dont know just a thought...No, basements in Florida, especially central and south Florida, are basically non-existent. It has nothing to do with hurricane prevalence, but much more to do with the karst topography of the state. JMO (why are we discussing basements anyway? lol)

[gaelicpeas]

Yes...as far as what Mr Kronk actually did, said he did, the media said he said he did....It does get a bit confusing as to what is right and what is third party hearsay.I read all of his calls/statement/GMA interview - no discrepancies that I could find. The only discrepancies were in some of the news reports. JMO

[daHawg]

To me, looks like:

George W

$2500
$200,000 ?
$500,000 ?

and further down,
psychic pens
carrots

==========

My first thought was - debts incurred by George, and a shopping list.

I got George W
$2500
$500,000
$15,000

psychic pens

couldn't get the carrots......

[read-in]

No, basements in Florida, especially central and south Florida, are basically non-existent. It has nothing to do with hurricane prevalence, but much more to do with the karst topography of the state. JMO (why are we discussing basements anyway? lol)

OHH wow, my bad, i lived in Wisc, and i have lived in Calif... all but one house had a basement, i really have no clue about florida...

[Danette44]

I have my own water well also. And because I have a electric pump my water bill is part of my power bill.

Out here we 'own' the power company (co-op) that is 72 miles from my property.
But we don't meter readers come out, it is all done at the power company. They can & do read our meters in Pahrump, NV.

The last time anyone that works for the power company came out here was close to 5 years ago when they brought out my meter box & the 3poles (that I had to pay for) to connect my property to other power lines.

I am surprised that there still are meter readers, I thought it was all done like it is here in the middle of nowhere.

Sly

My well is also connected to the Electric and strange as it may seem we're also co-op out here where I live......never thought of a water bill since I never see one....lol sorry for O/T

[magnolia]

Must be South Georgia as we say in these here parts. :rolleyes:

Nope...she lives in DeLand, Florida - not really close to Georgia, lol. But whatever...I guess other people know better than me who was just in her basement, yes IN Florida. Very sturdy house and basement at that

[CuriousJo]

The reports from the lab about the odor said there was a high percentage of gasoline odor. Maybe Casey needed the gas in cans to try to hide the smell in the trunk or try to clean it up.


Thats possible. Or maybe she was going to burn the body, but then did not when she had to give the gas cans back to GA.

[Neffy]

Ann,

http://www.wftv.com/news/18490155/detail.html
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18489212/detail.html

One of the above is a little longer then the other IIRC I can't remember which. But it helps to view them a few times anyways. Well for me it did anyways.

Come to think of it you may have missed the PI that worked for the Anthony's (ex investigater of Baez) Dominic Casey's vid to I believe. Digging and meandering around the spot where Caylee's remains were found IN NOV!

He's seen talking on the phone will doing this and claims he was speaking to a psychic :rolleyes:

[CelticDawn]

I read all of his calls/statement/GMA interview - no discrepancies that I could find. The only discrepancies were in some of the news reports. JMO

I couldn't find anything in his interviews either....just in reports....thus my frustration with media in general. However I do have to give it to Ms beklich, she usually is on top of her game and accurate <from what Ive seen anyway>. there's a first for everything though. :read:

[ConchGirl]

UUHHMMM, with all those hurricanes, i would have thought there would be many basements:blink:dont know just a thought...

I'm in South Florida at 8 ft. above sea level and if I had a basement it would be underwater. Don't know about Orlando. moo

[gaelicpeas]

Nope...she lives in DeLand, Florida - not really close to Georgia, lol. But whatever...I guess other people know better than me who was just in her basement, yes IN Florida. Very sturdy house and basement at that
Like I said before, I am not disputing that you were in a house in Florida with a basement. It is just very rare.. especially central and south Florida. JMO

[gaelicpeas]

I couldn't find anything in his interviews either....just in reports....thus my frustration with media in general. However I do have to give it to Ms beklich, she usually is on top of her game and accurate <from what Ive seen anyway>. there's a first for everything though. :read:Yes, I lilke Kathy Belich, also...

[?noanswer]

UUHHMMM, with all those hurricanes, i would have thought there would be many basements:blink:dont know just a thought...

Hurricanes brings lots of water. Basements would fill up with water. In the midwest where there are tornadoes, a basement could be a good thing. If the A's had a basement, KC would have probably tried to put the body down there somewhere. JMO

[CelticDawn]

UUHHMMM, with all those hurricanes, i would have thought there would be many basements:blink:dont know just a thought...

Oh HEAVENS no ....They would FLOOD! The rain and the normal water table and pretty much the whole state is actually floating...

Im in LA and USED TO live BELOW sealevel <until I got some sense>....and what we call basements are first floors that are garages and utility rooms with the house being the 2nd and third floors.....and sometimes the second floor gets water.

[magnolia]

Like I said before, I am not disputing that you were in a house in Florida with a basement. It is just very rare.. especially central and south Florida. JMO


Yes I saw that you said that and appreciate it. :)

[Lavenia]

Hey Guys! We're talking about ya'll! Find out what the gossip is...

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12673164&posted=1#post12673164

[AnnInOhio]

Ann,

http://www.wftv.com/news/18490155/detail.html
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18489212/detail.html

One of the above is a little longer then the other IIRC I can't remember which. But it helps to view them a few times anyways. Well for me it did anyways.

Come to think of it you may have missed the PI that worked for the Anthony's (ex investigater of Baez) Dominic Casey's vid to I believe. Digging and meandering around the spot where Caylee's remains were found IN NOV!

He's seen talking on the phone will doing this and claims he was speaking to a psychic :rolleyes:

I'm up on all that, I just didn't realize the August 14th tape had been "lost". I find the disclosure of everything that has been made public so mindboggling I just assumed it was intentionally held back for some reason...such as info on what was found with the body, etc. has not been made public yet.

[Neffy]

I'm up on all that, I just didn't realize the August 14th tape had been "lost". I find the disclosure of everything that has been made public so mindboggling I just assumed it was intentionally held back for some reason...such as info on what was found with the body, etc. has not been made public yet.


During the motion hearing the state IIRC said they were unaware of not having this and it was an oversight.

Now that we watched well, I don't know..........

[Dells]

Looks like $500,000 to me but my eyes are not what they used to be. moo

That's what I thought too. Then I thought about the $500,000 deal that Baez was trying to get for an interview w/Casey....:sneaky:

[aubrey04]

NEW THREAD:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=347999

[SaraSidle]

Many if not most of us share your pain..... it is indeed sad that Caylee was made to endure such misery before she passed. I try to cope by telling myself that she is a better place with loving angels to keep her company and NO ONE can ever hurt her again.

I also feel that her mother will be dealt with either in this life or after this life and that justice will prevail at some point. I think the Candle Lighting link that is posted daily on each thread is a good reminder of this eventual outcome.
:rose:

this probably will not be read but it is a wonderful post. Now that I know Caylee has been found her soul is in heaven. Her body is a shell to give information and nothing more. Let us thank God she is where she belongs. sara