Saturday January 17/09 Part 2

[Motomom]

Hey everyone :seeya:Ahhh just ending the night, feels good to be reading the boards..I believe I checked all of the links. I only missed the shows tonight.. anyways I had a question about that list posted uptheread of her google searches. Are the websites that she visited, not just her searches, on that document there too. I'm curious to know which sites she went to, rather than what she was searching for. I search for a lot of very wierd/morbid stuff sometimes.. simply educational, curiosity. I have no intentions of harming anybody though. I want to see what she saw when searching thoses things..What part of those things was she most interested in?? I hope I'm making sense..I'm on overload right now..

[mosey?]

I don't think they have family support. Unless of course you consider Kid Finders and the Milstead's. Wait, I thought of another one the stranger who ate chili. jmoOn Caylee's b-day? Yeah, who was that? A neighbor boy? Poor kid got sucked in by the vortex?
It's been hinted that it was Caylee's real father. Crap-shoot. Just pick a guy off the street and ask him?

[Mamie]

Wow! I could not have said that better myself!

:beer::patriot::beer:


I don't know about that, Mrs. H, you are pretty darned good with the verbiage.

Thanks!

[mosey?]

In some videos I did see many that were comforting Cindy and George ,but that was usually on the weekends only ,probably their friends were working during the week .All the ones I saw seemed to be strangers offering their condolences. The hugs or eye contact was never sincerely returned by the A's.
Who is Cindy's best friend (outside *uhg* Casey)?

[Motomom]

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Oh, I definitely hear what you are saying about the ones who come from such crappy backgrounds with addicted, criminal parents, siblings, nasty environment & all that garbage. It's real easy to say "well, no wonder you are a F-UP, look at your whole family, there is not a decent person in the group".

But then you find the kid who rises above it. Who comes from the same quagmire, but who grows up to rise above it. We so rarely know about them because they aren't in the criminal justice system.

And then you have the person who literally, truly, honestly came from a DECENT family. Who had parents who were reasonable, had appropriate expectations, who weren't overindulgent, who had kids before & after who turned out to be just the sort of contributing members of society we want - yet this one family member is nothing but wreckage & ruin to everyone & everything s/he touches. And then you find out, if you look further around & down the family tree - that mom or dad had a sister/brother/aunt/uncle - someone they never associated with & didn't expose their children to - who was just about the same for being a piece of crap human being. And it makes you go "hmmmmmm".
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This brought to mind an old movie called "The Bad Seed" about a young girl who would kill in order to get what she wanted, a real little sociopath named Rhoda with blonde pigtails and an adoring mother who was tormented by the suspicion that Rhoda was bad.
I think the movie was remade again, then there was "The Good Son" with Macauly Culkin. I'm so curious about Caylees childhood and IF she exhibited any violent outbursts or actions in her younger years.
Perhaps in the future, Cindy can write a book exposing secrets of life with Casey....I would find it interesting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Seed

Hi Susie.. great post IMO! I am familiar with both of those movies and I am curious about who she really was, growing up. The mind is a mysterious thing. It would be interesting to get the truth about her. An honest recount of her life. You never know what you may learn.

[legalmania]

I agree....but do you think the judge would be willing to take the chance that an appellate court would overturn the verdict and give the defendant a new trial because he didn't change the venue?

It's possible, but honestly IMO I just don't see it happening....but I could be wrong.

But again just my opinion :)


If she's convicted she gets an automatic appeal anyway, but I think the science is going to be so strong she won't win an appeal.

[catdoc]

[QUOTE=ParaTROLL;12670474]I always wonder about people who constantly cozy up in this manner ,it almost looks like they have to gather troops for back up .....I admire those who can stand alone and feel proud , those who need nothing more then their own opinion .





Those who stand alone....needing nothing more than their own opinion.......have a fool for an advisor.

[legalmania]

That would not be a lie ,but a mistake ,of which the poster apologized sincerely for , at which time you FAKED an apology ,it was obvious , it was not sincere ,in total contrast to the sincere apology you received .

I was going through the links last night and I saw something about this, I can't remember who said they would try to bring it over but failed in the first attempt but succeeded in the second attempt.

[mosey?]

Hiya, mose.

The thing that is so wrong in this, imo, is Cindy was so invested in the fairy tale she created to cover the reality of who Casey really was, she didn't see the danger in pushing Casey hard, before first insuring Caylee was safe. I also think in Cindy's altered reality, she believed she could make Casey take responsibility by forcing her to parent Caylee. Seems to me she was buried so deep in that toxic relationship she didn't account for the danger Casey posed to Caylee.Oh your so right Say. Cindy crippled Casey by covering and fixing her public misdeeds. Everything negative Casey did was OK, as long as it stayed in the family and Cindy could control it. Friends were dispendable and could be shedded like a snake's skin. but family, that's different. When Casey screwed GGrandma, Cindy's MOTHER, who is the ONLY person who has the power to hold Cindy accountable, it was over. Cindy's little crippled child needed to hike out on her own. She fell.

[Motomom]

hi Motomom :seeya:

blogspot.com, sci-spot.com, druglibrary.org, instructables.com are some of them...

hey..thanks for that.. but now I'd like to go farther and see what she was specifically looking for. I think they have this information on her as well. I'm pretty sure they would be able to track it down to which links she clicked on. Who was her plan really for..

[Mamie]

That reminds me Moon, why is it we dont see any of Cindy or George's friends coming forward to offer support or sympathy? I find that strange that they dont have a support group outside the fam.


It is strange, isn't it? I thought in the very beginning we'd heard something from one of Cindy's friends who said Cindy had described Casey by a none too flattering term-----strange for a mother to talk about her daughter that way, but then we've not heard anything else from this person since then. Maybe they are not "friends" anymore since that became public.

[mosey?]

Those who stand alone....needing nothing more than their own opinion.......have a fool for an advisor.A new take on an old Franklin! I like it!:biggrin:

[Motomom]

If she's convicted she gets an automatic appeal anyway, but I think the science is going to be so strong she won't win an appeal.

Oh Legal, when I first read this I read it wrong. I read it as the evidence was weak.. LOL don't ask.. had to read it again.. Does she get an automatice appeal if it is a LWOP sentence? Or is that just for a DP sentences, and so far DP is not on the table. IMO

[catdoc]

So did you find the dates that Casey searched the Missing Children links?

I'm in the process of a doc search now but can not find any documentation so far of a missing child search except, as a poster stated, referred to a a NG transcript. If it happened, I can't prove it or find the date.

[Motomom]

thru the sites i posted, she searched for the words "making weapons out of household products", "chloroformhabit", "chloroform", "how to make chloroform", & "chloro2

on March 21st

Have you went to those sites yourself? I get a little creeped out going to them. I did go to one but didn't do any searches on them. It bothers me a bit. I don't understand how a mother can do this.

[legalmania]

Oh Legal, when I first read this I read it wrong. I read it as the evidence was weak.. LOL don't ask.. had to read it again.. Does she get an automatice appeal if it is a LWOP sentence? Or is that just for a DP sentences, and so far DP is not on the table. IMO

Yes when you're convicted with Life or death you get an automatic appeal, however if the forensics is so strong they will turn it down.

[mosey?]

thru the sites i posted, she searched for the words "making weapons out of household products", "chloroformhabit", "chloroform", "how to make chloroform", & "chloro2"

on March 21stI wonder what the date was that she and Amy started talking about moving into the house.
The searches were probably to do away with her parents.:chicken:

[Motomom]

I wonder what the date was that she and Amy started talking about moving into the house.
The searches were probably to do away with her parents.:chicken:

I never believed much in that theory that she had intentions of killing her parents..however, IF there are missing kid searches, depending on what cases she was interested in, it's possible. I mean, nothing is impossible with this case.

[legalmania]

Oh Legal, when I first read this I read it wrong. I read it as the evidence was weak.. LOL don't ask.. had to read it again.. Does she get an automatice appeal if it is a LWOP sentence? Or is that just for a DP sentences, and so far DP is not on the table. IMO

The defense has a weak case not the prosecution.

[mosey?]

I'm in the process of a doc search now but can not find any documentation so far of a missing child search except, as a poster stated, referred to a a NG transcript. If it happened, I can't prove it or find the date.Hey catdoc. I seem to remember hearing the missing child searches were done in March

[Mamie]

I am willing to end the nit picking ...........


I'd much rather discuss theories ...... Someone mentioned tonight that Baez and Geraldo were talking about Kronk , in reference that there was more to come on that .....anyone know what that was about >

You know, I read that you'd asked about that earlier and then I glossed over some of the other posts and didn't know that anyone had answered you, so.......when I watched what little Geraldo had on his show about the Caylee Anthony case, it was all about the A's attorney-----who is (I believe) trying to blacken Kronk's name by saying that he knows that Kronk was there at the site from August 13th until December 11th. He was saying that as if it's news which it isn't. Then Geraldo asked him if he thought anything else was going to come out about Kronk and he said he was pretty sure there would be more info coming out about him, and then he added that he KNEW there would be. I do not like this guy at all. He also said that he didn't think the PROS was going to come after his clients at all that they'd been cooperative. JMO

[MrsHudson]

I think it was more Casey manipulating George and Cindy. I think they would have set their foot down with her if she wanted to move back in no more parting or children's services would have been called.

Maybe. But I don't know for sure they would have called children's services because when Casey was out of jail and Child Welfare workers went to talk to Casey, Cindy butted in and started defending Casey.

Well anyway it looks like the ONLY time that Cindy really brought the hammer down on Casey was when she called LE on July 15th and she ended up regretting it and is defending Casey to this day!

Crazy!

[Motomom]

I have a feeling we'll find out at trial that some of the searches had nothing to do with Casey at all. lol

Who do you think searched them then? Or you think some of it is innocent? I thought I heard once before that Cindy did a missing kid search? Maybe that was a rumor though?

[Susie419]

Hi Susie.. great post IMO! I am familiar with both of those movies and I am curious about who she really was, growing up. The mind is a mysterious thing. It would be interesting to get the truth about her. An honest recount of her life. You never know what you may learn.
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After the Scott Peterson trial, I got every book written about the case, and I found the most interesting insight into the family was in a book written by Scott's sister, titled "reasons why I know Scott is guilty" and also Dr.Keith Ablow's attempt to read into the mind of SP.
What I missed though, and hoped for, was a book from the mother.
I hope Cindy breaks down someday and lets us take a look inside of their life together.

[legalmania]

If you want to know who brought over the monkey go to Friday part two post #1013.

[mosey?]

I never believed much in that theory that she had intentions of killing her parents..however, IF there are missing kid searches, depending on what cases she was interested in, it's possible. I mean, nothing is impossible with this case.Perhaps. But where was she going with the story to Amy about her Mom and Dad divorcing, and Cindy getting a place of her own? One day she would have to account for it. Maybe murder (what's that parent-acide?) crossed her mind, but the logistics...

[catdoc]

I recall the "missing child" search information, too, and it wasn't just an NG transcript. NG gets her info from her producer and local Orlando sources. I'm hardly going to go off looking for a link, but the "missing child" search info came out at the same time the other search info did.

I remember when it first came out too. I wonder if the docs for these dates were not released and why. It was all leaked to NG at the same time.

[Motomom]

It was C&G's attorney.

He was alluding to the 'fact' there was more to be known about Mr. Kronk....and that 'it' would all be coming out.

As for myself, I really don't care if Mr Kronk was searching for a spot to grow a plot of wacky-weed when he went in those woods.
...he found Caylee and brought her out of that dump.

I commend him and will be forever thankful..

Thats right.. IMO too. Thankfully Caylee is not lieing out in those woods any longer. We can thank Mr. Kronk for that, no matter how he found her.. JMO though.

[jammies]

Oh your so right Say. Cindy crippled Casey by covering and fixing her public misdeeds. Everything negative Casey did was OK, as long as it stayed in the family and Cindy could control it. Friends were dispendable and could be shedded like a snake's skin. but family, that's different. When Casey screwed GGrandma, Cindy's MOTHER, who is the ONLY person who has the power to hold Cindy accountable, it was over. Cindy's little crippled child needed to hike out on her own. She fell.


My daughter's bf friend family is going through the same with their younger son. Mom keeps covering for him, cleaning up his messes, literally cleaning his car everyday and emptying it of drugs. on and on. Been an ongoing thing for years. I spoke with her the other day and did the tough love convo but I still don't think she gets it. yesterday, my daughter told me he has been stealing from them and selling their things. All the same behavior as Casey and Cindy. It's so frustrating to watch a train wreck and be able to do NOTHING.

I can imagine this is why Cindy and GA don't seem to have many friends. Parents want to keep this behavior a secret from others. I see this with boyfriends mom. The only reason she talks to me is because she KNOWS my daughter tells me things. But it took her 6 years to admit to me that this kid was less than perfect.

It's sad because as OUTSIDERS we can already read the writing on the wall and can only PRAY no one gets hurt. i would bet all the tea in China that if Cindy's coworkers came forth they would tell us that Cindy fooled no one. Parents only end up fooling themselves and spend so much time and energy trying to delay the inevitable instead of facing the problems head on.

[legalmania]

It was C&G's attorney.

He was alluding to the 'fact' there was more to be known about Mr. Kronk....and that 'it' would all be coming out.

As for myself, I really don't care if Mr Kronk was searching for a spot to grow a plot of wacky-weed when he went in those woods.
...he found Caylee and brought her out of that dump.

I commend him and will be forever thankful..

Yes this board had to start thinking positive things about Caylee. Her spirit needs all of us right now. She will not rest until she tells her story in court. Even though she's hasn't been buried it's more important that together as a group we pray for her story to come out. Then she can go in peace.

[MrsHudson]

Thats right.. IMO too. Thankfully Caylee is not lieing out in those woods any longer. We can thank Mr. Kronk for that, no matter how he found her.. JMO though.

We can thank Mr Kronk but the A's won't. Already they are trashing him. They just hate it that Caylee's body was found. Really sickening.Just another person they will trash to get Casey off. The list is getting very long.

I can't wait till they cuff Casey and take her away to the pen. That will exhonerate everybody the A's have trashed.

[playnice]

Thats right.. IMO too. Thankfully Caylee is not lieing out in those woods any longer. We can thank Mr. Kronk for that, no matter how he found her.. JMO though.

One would think the Anthonys would be thanking him too instead of their attorney out there looking for ways to critasize him.:rolleyes:

[Motomom]

Perhaps. But where was she going with the story to Amy about her Mom and Dad divorcing, and Cindy getting a place of her own? One day she would have to account for it. Maybe murder (what's that parent-acide?) crossed her mind, but the logistics...

She had to know that was coming to a break. She had told too many lies, to too many people at one time IMO. She was conning Amy maybe.. IDK..very twisted if you ask me. I don't know if she was just winging life or if she had a plan. Either way, Caylee wasn't a part of it .

[legalmania]

Maybe. But I don't know for sure they would have called children's services because when Casey was out of jail and Child Welfare workers went to talk to Casey, Cindy butted in and started defending Casey.

Well anyway it looks like the ONLY time that Cindy really brought the hammer down on Casey was when she called LE on July 15th and she ended up regretting it and is defending Casey to this day!

Crazy!

The A's obviously love their kids, they had no idea of what Casey was going to do, if they did I believe they would have taken Caylee called whoever to keep Casey away. Even though Cindy says she's sticking with Casey I believe in the deposistions we will see a different Cindy and George.

[jammies]

When I learned reading comprehension, there were no such thing as message boards.

Its never too late for you though. :)


Ever the optimist, Landshark. :lol:

[mosey?]

It was C&G's attorney.

He was alluding to the 'fact' there was more to be known about Mr. Kronk....and that 'it' would all be coming out.

As for myself, I really don't care if Mr Kronk was searching for a spot to grow a plot of wacky-weed when he went in those woods.
...he found Caylee and brought her out of that dump.

I commend him and will be forever thankful..I agree. Kronk is one of the heroes of the case, IMO
Like that secretary woman in Ferris Buellers day off "He's an awesome dude"

[Mamie]

Thanks for that info .........I am not starting a rumor ,but I heard this here at this board and have to ask ....did anyone hear that Kronks mother made a comment live to media to the effect " Just because my son look like a child molester doesn't mean he is one '?

If this WAS really said by his mother I would like to know , I mean what mother would say something like that ?


OMG! I can't believe a mother would say something like that! Not to mention, just what does a child molester look like?:shrug:

[mosey?]

My daughter's bf friend family is going through the same with their younger son. Mom keeps covering for him, cleaning up his messes, literally cleaning his car everyday and emptying it of drugs. on and on. Been an ongoing thing for years. I spoke with her the other day and did the tough love convo but I still don't think she gets it. yesterday, my daughter told me he has been stealing from them and selling their things. All the same behavior as Casey and Cindy. It's so frustrating to watch a train wreck and be able to do NOTHING.

I can imagine this is why Cindy and GA don't seem to have many friends. Parents want to keep this behavior a secret from others. I see this with boyfriends mom. The only reason she talks to me is because she KNOWS my daughter tells me things. But it took her 6 years to admit to me that this kid was less than perfect.

It's sad because as OUTSIDERS we can already read the writing on the wall and can only PRAY no one gets hurt. i would bet all the tea in China that if Cindy's coworkers came forth they would tell us that Cindy fooled no one. Parents only end up fooling themselves and spend so much time and energy trying to delay the inevitable instead of facing the problems head on.Sorry to hear this Jammies. I went throught the same thing with my nephew last spring. Sometimes jail is the last resort and only option.I know it's the only place for the rest of Casey long life.

[legalmania]

Do you have a link that someone sentenced to the DP doesn't get an automatic appeal because of forensics?

Or are you saying that the evidence counts in the appeal? Because I thought the appellate process had to do with legal questions...not the actual evidence of the case....like the evidence was obtained illegally if you follow.

You get an automatic appeal I will go find it if you want but they look at all the evidence before they deny or grant an appeal.

[AlohaRainbow]

she lives in Florida...wonder if she looked up Jessica Lunsford?...i know she's dead, may she rest in peace, but it all started out with her "missing".....hmmm, who knows

or trenton duckett [still missing :( ] , whose mother reported him "kidnapped"

[playnice]

Kronk didnt kill Caylee. Casey did. Why does it really matter how he found her?

[jammies]

Sorry to hear this Jammies. I went throught the same thing with my nephew last spring. Sometimes jail is the last resort and only option.I know it's the only place for the rest of Casey long life.

That's exactly what I told this mom. Let him sit in jail for a few days. Don't bail him out. yadayada. Doubt I got through to her. Just so sad to watch the damage done in these families.
Sorry about your nephew. Sure takes a toll, doesn't it?

[MrsHudson]

I only heard that here. It doesn't sound like something a mother would say. I do believe Mr. Conway when he states there is more to the story here.

I don't think there is more. Conway may have been alluding the to expunged kidnapping charge and the fact that Kronk owes back child support. He may not know it's already been put out there by the media. What more could he know that the media does not? What's Conway driving at? Kronk killed Caylee? Kronk is in cahoot's with the real kidnappers? Nah! He knows better. Conway is throwing out boob bait. It keeps the A's happy.

Kronk's employer is behind him. LE is behind him. The media has had over a month to come up with something terrible and has not done so. iAnd I don't think Kronk would have dared to come forward if he was a pedophile, had a history of violence or if he was involved with hurting Caylee himself.

Mr Kronk will be fine at the trial and the jury will be mad if the defense tries to trash him.

[legalmania]

Do you have a link that someone sentenced to the DP doesn't get an automatic appeal because of forensics?

Or are you saying that the evidence counts in the appeal? Because I thought the appellate process had to do with legal questions...not the actual evidence of the case....like the evidence was obtained illegally if you follow.

It's a lot.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0924/SEC06.HTM&Title=-%3E2008-%3ECh0924-%3ESection%2006#0924.06

[catdoc]

i've yet to find anywhere in the documents, any searches for missing children, & the likes....it may be in there, but i haven't seen it yet...

Agreed. And I've searched. It's been implied to be a very important part of establishing premeditation. Maybe it's been held back. Hard to believe NG constantly referring to it without proof.

[playnice]

If he has lied about how he found her ,it certainly does matter. For obvious reasons. From what he has said already ,many question the WHY's ..and I don't wear any blinders to anyone involved in this case..no need to ,I have nothing at stake.....

Well if someone tipped him off it just leads back to D Casey or Hoover which lead back to Baez or the A's knowing.

If theres more I hope it does come out.

[Motomom]

I didn't get the feeling that Conway ws suggesting that Kronk is a sex offender. But that there are things not yet known by the public. The discovery of Caylee's remains has many unanswered questions, imo.

It may just be the unexplainable. He was drawn/led to her body. It could be nothing more than that. That is what I believe has happened here. Why he told different accounts? I'm not sure, but.. he was led there IMO.

[Anakerie]

Maybe Mr. Kronk knows. Perhaps you could ask him, since you haven't found the answer you have been seeking here.

Since you and a couple others are so suspicious of Mr. Krunk, are you also suspicious of the Anthony's PI's? Don't you think it odd that they were out there digging, slashing and tromping around in those woods, on the phone with a so-called psychic that can't verify the phone call to one of the PI's?

[MrsHudson]

No we'll all most likely hear it all on WESH ! Not that we don't have enough to go off ,I mean why is there so many versions of WHY abd HOW he saw a bag ? Should be just straight up ,except after .AFTER he said those thongs someone pointed out the problems with all he said and he changed it up- it just looked worse and worse...this is the reasons we know so far ,can't wait to hear the rest ...but thats just me .

What do you think Kronk did that would connect him to the crime committed against Caylee? Do you think he killed her? Do you think he moved the body? If so why would he do that?

[mosey?]

I didn't get the feeling that Conway ws suggesting that Kronk is a sex offender. But that there are things not yet known by the public. The discovery of Caylee's remains has many unanswered questions, imo.Hey Exiled! What Questions are unanswered?

[Anakerie]

Thanks for that info .........I am not starting a rumor ,but I heard this here at this board and have to ask ....did anyone hear that Kronks mother made a comment live to media to the effect " Just because my son look like a child molester doesn't mean he is one '?

If this WAS really said by his mother I would like to know , I mean what mother would say something like that ?
You didn't "just hear" that on this board.. You were here last week spouting the same nonsense.

[playnice]

Since you and a couple others are so suspicious of Mr. Krunk, are you also suspicious of the Anthony's PI's? Don't you think it odd that they were out there digging, slashing and tromping around in those woods, on the phone with a so-called psychic that can't verify the phone call to one of the PI's?

Id like to know why no one in that camp seems happy he found Caylee?
I would think someone in this whole darn mess would be happy she is brought home. But wait, she isnt home yet. She may lay another 6 months in a card board box.

[Anakerie]

Was it that long ago ? my how time flies.


I don't trust Roy ...something is off with him ..jmo
Do you trust the Anthony PI's and the psychic?

[Anakerie]

Whatever floats your boat.
With OCSD & The F.B.I. stating he isn't a suspect.... that's what I'll go with.
Same here. I have a lot more faith in them telling the truth than I have in a lawyer who is seeking immunity for his clients.

[catdoc]

You didn't "just hear" that on this board.. You were here last week spouting the same nonsense.

If that post (I don't want to quote it) is defined by the poster as "not starting a rumor" I wonder how he defines "starting a rumor"?

I certainly had not heard it before. I'm sure many others had not.And should not have heard it now. At least not without a link.

[legalmania]

okay....not to be argumentative....

but you are saying you get an automatic appeal.....

so are you saying that they look at all the evidence before they give you a new trial or not?

In a sense yes, but an appellate court isn't a trier of fact, they might rule that something (evidence) legally shouldn't have been allowed in.....

but they are looking at legal issues, not the "evidence" and ruling on that.

I'm gonna let you read the statutes because I seem to be confusing you.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0924/SEC055.HTM&Title=-%3E2008-%3ECh0924-%3ESection%20055#0924.055

[Anakerie]

I have not seen a reason yet not to. I go by what I know on a daily basis . For what reason or benefit would a PI lie and risk his freedom ,for what reason would a psychic do the same ..the videos we have seen clearly correlate to what the psychic suggest he do and where to look and how .So until I have reason ,I trust them ...now when we discus Kronk ,he has given many reasons for me to mistrust him ...I think I have posted those many times.
Unbelievable... Absolutely unbelievable...

[playnice]

I have not seen a reason yet not to. I go by what I know on a daily basis . For what reason or benefit would a PI lie and risk his freedom ,for what reason would a psychic do the same ..the videos we have seen clearly correlate to what the psychic suggest he do and where to look and how .So until I have reason ,I trust them ...now when we discus Kronk ,he has given many reasons for me to mistrust him ...I think I have posted those many times.

So then that means you believe Verizon just forgot to charge her for those phone calls? Just like they forgot to to put Z call on caseys. :rolleyes:

[Anakerie]

That sounds very unlikely. Please post a link to that before you repeat that again on this board.
I doubt if he can post a link verifying that nasty rumor, nor even to his other posts on that nastiness... I think they got deleted, most likely by CW.

[Lavenia]

You didn't "just hear" that on this board.. You were here last week spouting the same nonsense.

Ah yes. I did a quick post search on the word "molester" on the Caylee thread and didn't come up with any other discussion except this one. (I didn't search predating Kronk, of course.) Maybe I missed it.

ETA: I did this search last week after the last accusation and again tonight.

[MrsHudson]

I didn't get the feeling that Conway ws suggesting that Kronk is a sex offender. But that there are things not yet known by the public. The discovery of Caylee's remains has many unanswered questions, imo.

He's playing games. He IS trying to make people think Kronk is involved in either Caylee's death or moving her body or lying about when or where he first saw it. There is no reason for Kronk to do any of that stuff.

Look at who is trashing the guy! It's the A's and Casey and their defense attorneys and surrogates. The ONLY people who NEVER wanted that body found. That speaks volumes.

Hear me now and hate me later but it is repulsive to me to see how willing the A's and their daughter are to throw anyone under the bus who is not helpful to Casey's cause.

[Anakerie]

Ah yes. I did a quick post search on the word "molester" on the Caylee thread and didn't come up with any other discussion except this one. (I didn't search predating Kronk, of course.) Maybe I missed it.

ETA: I did this search last week after the last accusation and again tonight.
In all the articles I've read on this case, this nasty little rumor has never been mentioned. The first I heard of it was a post by this same poster last week. I searched as well, and am guessing that CW deleted the posts.

[catdoc]

I doubt if he can post a link verifying that nasty rumor, nor even to his other posts on that nastiness... I think they got deleted, most likely by CW.

I certainly hope they get deleted. Noone deserves that kind of mean spirited comment if it can't be proved. It's extremely defamatory.

[MrsHudson]

I didn't get the feeling that Conway ws suggesting that Kronk is a sex offender. But that there are things not yet known by the public. The discovery of Caylee's remains has many unanswered questions, imo.

And how would Conway know these other things?

Oh well I am going to bed.

Night everyone! :seeya::patriot::rose:

[Anakerie]

Yep ...I READ it here .....my PC is not voice activated ...lol


Spouting does that mean like a whale , what do you mean I spouted something ,I am offended .
Did you forget what YOU posted? You stated you "heard it here". Perhaps you should review your original post where you brought up that unverified rumor that you are trying to spread. Perhaps you should try spreading it at one of the other message boards that don't care if you post unverified nonsense.

[catdoc]

In all the articles I've read on this case, this nasty little rumor has never been mentioned. The first I heard of it was a post by this same poster last week. I searched as well, and am guessing that CW deleted the posts.

Hopefully we've established that this libelous comment ORIGINATED with the poster tonite and hopefully ends there.

[mosey?]

Well one might be if he really saw a skull way back in August, why was it still there in December? There is a difference in seeing a skull and seeing a plastic bag, and is it reasonable that it took four more months for him to report it again, if he actually saw a skull back in Aug?

Another question I have is about something Lenny said, and I know many of you believe Lenny. He said that he was told sometime before Dec. 11 that the PI knew Caylee's location, and that he (Lenny)immediately called the FBI guy and told him. If this is true, why didn't the FBI guy or anyone go look?

There are plenty more questions, but these are the ones that first come to mind.Exiled, you're confused. Hoover told the story about the November search to LP on December 16 or 17th AFTER Caylee was found. On Dec 17th after hearing Hoover recount the incident, Lenny told the FBI. Caylee had been found almost a week earlier
Also, remember the area Caylee was found was covered in water for a time after 2 storms rolled in. What might be seen in the ebbing waters, may be invisible when the next storm hits.
A skull is heavier than water, but would still shift with the incoming and outgoing "tide" It may have been peeking out from the black bag, but I doubt it. Kronk "thought" he saw the skull. No comfirmation, and they'll never be.

AS far as the appearing and disappearing bag, remember the rising and falling waters of swampy areas act somewhat like the ocean tide. Items shift in the waters.

I am just really glad he was so insistant about what he thought he saw.

[Anakerie]

And how would Conway know these other things?

Oh well I am going to bed.

Night everyone! :seeya::patriot::rose:
Good night, MrsHudson!

I think I'll soon be headed that way as well...

[playnice]

LE believe that have more than enough evidence to prove that Casey and Casey only murdered her daughter. Thats good enough for me. I believe them any day over these people that have to get attorneys, ask for immunity and even their attorneys say they havent been truthful. That says alot.

[Anakerie]

Then you need to search some more.If CW deleted it I have no idea . but you can find it in other areas ...So what are you trying to instigate ? You are clearly going at me ...like I said SEARCH other areas!
ROFL!!!

WHAT other areas? You said you "heard it here" on THIS board. That is where I searched...

Enough... You are trying really hard to push that little story and I, for one, am NOT buying it... Like I said, go peddle it on some of the other boards that don't care if it's a verifiable story. We want a LINK to something as disgusting as that.

[legalmania]

No.....it's all good.

But anyway....an appellate court isn't going to rule on the evidence...they are going to rule on the legal issues.

Of course, The State of Florida may be different as far as the power to review a case.

If you are saying that, then I apologize.

The link you gave didn't address that though.

Did you read post #817 and #839. They give an automatic appeal but the lower tribune has to have made a mistake in order for the appeal to be granted.

[Anakerie]

Good night folks... I'm headed for bed...

:seeya:

[mosey?]

Then you need to search some more.If CW deleted it I have no idea . but you can find it in other areas ...So what are you trying to instigate ? You are clearly going at me ...like I said SEARCH other areas!Casey????!...

[Anakerie]

Kronk lawyered up ...straight away did you not hear ,thats OLD NEWS!

Psst... Did he ask for immunity before he said anything?







Now I am going to bed.... lol.. G'nite all.

[legalmania]

Good night folks... I'm headed for bed...

:seeya:

Me too. :seeya:

[catdoc]

I don't think Mr. Conway was trashing Kronk. He and many others have legitimate questions and concerns. The A's havent made any statements about Kronk that I am aware of. The things that speak volumes to you don't to me. Its unreasonable to consider a search for truth as trashing, or throwing under a bus. Those cliches are tossed around much to liberally, and used to counter legitimate questions and inconsistencies.

Of course he is trashing Kronk, and of course he is speaking for the Anthony's. That is his job. If he speaks in any context regarding this case, he is speaking for the Anthony's. To do anything else would be unethical if not illegal. Since the body was discovered, they have spoken only thru him,,,for their own protection. Their only hope now is to cast doubt on the physical evidence on the body. The best way to accomplish that agenda and save Casey is to denigrate Kronk.

[mosey?]

Actually, Cindy & George have Roy Kronk beat. If I recall correctly, Cindy & George lawyered up as soon as they were told Roy Kronk discovered remains close to their home. Maybe on the plane trip back from Larry King Live. Thats old news.

Did Cindy & George know the remains found were Caylee's?

If so, how could Cindy & George have possibly known?

Hmmm. Might have something to do with the full immunity Cindy & George are seeking.They probably used the phone on the back of the seats to call an attorney. Expensive, those. They should have forseen the need to pitch pennies as the "Find Caylee" funds would be coming to a screeching halt.

[mosey?]

$ root of all evil............seems to be the case ,no matter where you go .


Mark Lunsford had many hating him too ,saying he was all about the money ...its typical ..............Money is the root of all evil. Is that what they call a "cliche"?

[Mamie]

Yep ...I READ it here .....my PC is not voice activated ...lol


Spouting does that mean like a whale , what do you mean I spouted something ,I am offended .


Just a question but............how does one become offended by something if one is not clear on what something means?:shrug:

[mosey?]

What because you post something makes it true ? That link proves nothing ...many posts here have been deleted , I have never said I did not repeat what I read .... I believe I read it here ..what do you think I pulled it out of my HAT or bag of tricks ......

Go search some more maybe it is still here , maybe not ,who cares I read it here .........You should use your time trying to get some definitive answers as to WHY he changed up his story so much as opposed to questioning , searching and obsessing over trying to prove someone on the message board didn't read something here !


What does it matter anyway WHERE I read it ? Theres you something to do, think on that.Just a few questions, Para. To whom is your post directed, and when you say "he", to whom are you reffering?
In other words-- What?

[happygert]

LS , the Attorney had spoken live and made a statement that HE would never take a case such as this without his clients having such protection and it was HIS advice to them ,the A's did NOT ASK for it.

Then I guess he asks for IMMUNITY FOR ALL HIS CLIENTS?.....OK.. Yeah and I'll buy the A's didn't ask for immunity.....When He** freezes over......

[happygert]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

HUMMMMMMM'S Right...Wonder if CA's on the computer again.?..:shrug:

[FoxySly]

or trenton duckett [still missing :( ] , whose mother reported him "kidnapped"


No, actually it was one of the 2 males that was over melinda's apartment who reported Trenton missing not melinda.

melinda also said "why do they want to speak to me?" when the 911 operator asked to speak to Trenton's mom.

Caylee's case has many similarities to Trenton's IMO.

Sly

[jammies]

HUMMMMMMM'S Right...Wonder if CA's on the computer again.?..:shrug:


Funny you'd say that, gert. I'm just reading along thinking the same thing. Feels like falling down a rabbit hole.

[happygert]

He specifically said : "in a case such as this" Not all criminal or civil cases are of this caliber, perhaps you could email him and ask ,he seems like a very cordial kind of guy, couldn't hurt to ask him ,if your that interested ....hope that helps you somewhat.

Not interested in anything out of the mouths of camp anthony... As far as I'm concerned they all have lied.. So why would I be interested in anything their lawyers have to say? Not one of them is credible in my eyes....JMHO.......

[happygert]

No, actually it was one of the 2 males that was over melinda's apartment who reported Trenton missing not melinda.

melinda also said "why do they want to speak to me?" when the 911 operator asked to speak to Trenton's mom.

Caylee's case has many similarities to Trenton's IMO.

Sly

Yep except for 2 Caylee's remain were found I'm afraid Little Trenton will never be.. and Melinda commited sucide...She took where she threw Trenton to the grave with her..

[happygert]

No clue, but I do wonder why LandShark deleted that post...I saw it...

of course there might be reasons other than stirring the pot......or whatever....

really not that important....

but Hmmmmmmmmmmm

I don't think LandShark is CA....but that's just my Opinion.

Oh no !! LandShark is NOT CA.....wasn't referring to that.....

[happygert]

I gotta tell you , if anyone really thinks CA is on here ,well I best keep that thought to myself.


First clue that its not her should be obvious ! But better not say that either...well since theres nothing I can say ,I better be going ....

No ITS NOT LANDSHARK......But not so sure about someone else......So Troll don't think you and I are thinking the same thing's cause that will never happen..

[happygert]

Sorry I was being a bit facetious there......

I know LandShark isn't Cindy Anthony.

:D

LOL ok I didn't think so... but I thought I'd clarify myself.....

[happygert]

Funny you'd say that, gert. I'm just reading along thinking the same thing. Feels like falling down a rabbit hole.

Yes jammies it does....

[ellegna]

Good morning :seeya:

New thread for Sunday
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=347980

[StarShine]

Gotta just add that I do not think they KNEW then, but I think they were racked with all sorts of bad thoughts and did not know what to believe., but of course wanted to believe the BEST scenario............of course they know it now.

That is exactly what I believe. There is no way that I believe that they KNEW Caylee was dead before her body was found.

[Neffy]

LOL.....did the poster you quote post it every 10 posts or so? ;)

Guess you are claiming immunity....Weren't you posting the link ;)

I believe I'm the one your looking for. I thought while discussing the SM link it should be posted to see what we were discussing so NO ONE would take our discussion as fact. Someone had taken out of context one of my posts already and I wanted to prevent that. Posting the link with the discussion seemed to help.

You should really read the whole discussion before you go chasing and trying to make something out of nothing. IMO you may consider immunity for yourself :)