Friday January 16 - Part 1

[n/t]

Good Morning,

I'm still :w00t: over the video? WTH? Any thoughts on why this one was held back? Some are saying it was an oversight. I don't think so. I'll have to watch it again to see if there was anything missed.

Interesting that George only started communicating with her right before her arrest? Did anyone else catch that? I know he and Cindy were separated for a while but why wouldn't he be communicating with his daughter? hmmmmmmm

[n/t]

No, I don't think she ever had the one on one. IMO, Jose talked her out of it.

[n/t]

My guess is Jose really fought on this one, as it showed his client in her true light. The anger is so self-explanatory, and I can't wait for the jury to see it, along with the first call to the GP's home.

I think there's more (and worse) to come.....

Oh I agree. We got to see her anger and also how manipulative she is.

[ellegna]

Candles for Caylee
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose::rose::rose:

Caylee's Guest Book
http://www.legacy.com/SPTimes/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=121581033

[kellabeck]

Good morning!
Stay warm, everyone!

I am watching NG from last night and when I heard Nancy say that the entire Ant family was seeking to cooperate with LE (all asking for immunity) I reacted :eek:

Isn't more that all the Ants don't want to be prosecuted and obviously have criminal liability??

That's what their seeking immunity means to me!! Not that they are now going to cooperate!

[ellegna]

My guess is Jose really fought on this one, as it showed his client in her true light. The anger is so self-explanatory, and I can't wait for the jury to see it, along with the first call to the GP's home.

I think there's more (and worse) to come.....

Good morning

Yes we did see Casey in another light. :mad:

Can you just imagine now what may have happened that night? Casey and Cindy engaged in a heated argument. Cindy goes for Casey's throat. Casey is enraged and leaves house with Caylee. Caylee is scared and crying. Casey has had just about enough. Puts duct tape Across Caylee's mouth. Caylee is still struggling. Casey grabs Caylee's blanket, pillow, baby doll and smothers Caylee. (I always kept blankets/pillows in my car)
Prosecution may believe Caylee was killed in a fit of anger and this video proves Casey is capable of that. Yes.....I can see JB being very nervous how the jury will perceive Casey after watching this tape.

[kellabeck]

Why did Nancy Grace choose to show the same clip of the video twice rather than take the time to show another, different part of the Ant convo?

:confused:

[kellabeck]

Caller to NG asked about George having been sighted coming out of a woods and was it where the body was found.

NG said no, he was seen coming out of the woods where a tipster said s/he had seen Casey come out the woods near the airport carrying a shovel.

Now that was absolutely news to me. If true, George went searching where his daughter supposedly was sighted with a shovel??

[ellegna]

Anthonys' Former Attorney Gives Kronk $5K Reward

Deputy In Caylee Investigation Reassigned

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28675979/

[n/t]

Caller to NG asked about George having been sighted coming out of a woods and was it where the body was found.

NG said no, he was seen coming out of the woods where a tipster said s/he had seen Casey come out the woods near the airport carrying a shovel.

Now that was absolutely news to me. If true, George went searching where his daughter supposedly was sighted with a shovel??

Not sure if it was the same spot where Casey was supposedly seen with the shovel but here's the link to the story:



http://www.wftv.com/news/17891218/detail.html

[Shyone]

Good Morning everyone..Does anyone have the link to the once again outraged Casey..I missed NG last night. (sighs)

[n/t]

G. ANTHONY: Hey, listen, I want you to know you are the boss through this whole thing. OK?

CASEY: Well, no, I`m not anymore, Dad. I haven`t been since I got here.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/15/ng.01.html


The boss? I bet she was the boss at home too. :cursing:

[n/t]

I think the CASEY PICKING GEORGE As the special one to speak with was Casey's little way of subliminal message to daddy . I kind of feel like maybe the day of the gas can incident really did take place and though I don't feel like George confronted her in the chaotic confusion that day when she did rush out to the car that day before he did to hand deliver the gas cans.

I think that Casey does not know exactly what dad saw that day ,but suspects that he may have seen something and since he had not acknowledged what he may have seen smelt or other she wanted to get a feel for what he may have witnessed and needed a one on one with him in case something came out and she did have to confess.


Or maybe too she has some black mailing she could work on George and knows somehow she could hold him under the gun with her own knowledge .......................it is peculiar.


Good points.

[n/t]

Good Morning everyone..Does anyone have the link to the once again outraged Casey..I missed NG last night. (sighs)

If you go to the links thread, it's there.

[Amy]

Good Morning,

I'm still :w00t: over the video? WTH? Any thoughts on why this one was held back? Some are saying it was an oversight. I don't think so. I'll have to watch it again to see if there was anything missed.

Interesting that George only started communicating with her right before her arrest? Did anyone else catch that? I know he and Cindy were separated for a while but why wouldn't he be communicating with his daughter? hmmmmmmm

I remember Cindy saying that Lee and Casey were on "her side" about the troubles in the A's marriage. When some folks are on the outs w/other family members, they just don't communicate.

[Amy]

Why did Nancy Grace choose to show the same clip of the video twice rather than take the time to show another, different part of the Ant convo?

:confused:

Even in the other tape, it was the same bit over and over and over, day after day after day. I guess she decides what she thinks is the most important part, and doesn't think her viewing audience need worry about the rest?

[n/t]

I remember Cindy saying that Lee and Casey were on "her side" about the troubles in the A's marriage. When some folks are on the outs w/other family members, they just don't communicate.


True. I guess my point was I didn't realize that Casey and George only started to communicate right before she was arrested. I thought that was odd considering George was obviously back in the house for a while. Wasn't he?:mellow:

[Kathlb]

Good morning!!!

I think the only one confirmed seeking criminal immuntiy is Lee. Must be an interesting time in the Anthony Home.


Good morning! No, the Anthony's lawyer (in the wheelchair) has asked for it also. They asked first. He said he wouldn't be doing his job as a lawyer properly if he didn't ask for that. :rolleyes:

I believe that we are catching a 'glimpse' of the real Casey in this video. Her rage that is always right below the surface came out a bit. I think it gets worse than that. And you can bet Jose didn't want this one seen. Every time Cindy tried to ask her a question, she flew into a rage and shouted the poor me act to deflect answering. I just feel so badly about little Caylee. She didn't deserve any of this.

[*MoonRider*]

I think the airing of this video could possibly go 2 ways though.

When someone is frustrated because they are telling the truth they may react this way too. Think of this ,we all know that if we were innocent and up against a wall being prodded for details and info when we truly did not know anything more to tell ,it would cause grea frustration ..........also remember casey says ,she has not been allowed to show feelings .............attorneys will coach people saying they should not react , not get too emotional because it could give the prosecution amo shaking the client up and be able to make the client break down ...maybe jose was coaching casey and telling her don't react don't react .....so showing this video maybe let it be seen casey does have feelings and emotions ,because up till now we had not seen any emotion ! Maybe prosecution never turned this vodeo over because they did not want the world to see she does seem frustrated over the whole thing ? its all in perception , each individual perception..i thnk video could work both ways!

Casey clearly says she wasn't supposed to meet with them. They woke her up. Jose was in NY. Jose was the one that asked for this video in court. Perhaps he's rethinking that decision? This video does nothing but show that Casey is a cold blooded killer. LP says she knew she was going to be bailed out at the time of the visitation. Me, me, me. She never asks if there is any news on Caylee. Her anger leads me to believe that George & Cindy are afraid of her. If they are afraid what about Caylee? IMO

[SavannahStar]

I think the airing of this video could possibly go 2 ways though.

When someone is frustrated because they are telling the truth they may react this way too. Think of this ,we all know that if we were innocent and up against a wall being prodded for details and info when we truly did not know anything more to tell ,it would cause grea frustration ..........also remember casey says ,she has not been allowed to show feelings .............attorneys will coach people saying they should not react , not get too emotional because it could give the prosecution amo shaking the client up and be able to make the client break down ...maybe jose was coaching casey and telling her don't react don't react .....so showing this video maybe let it be seen casey does have feelings and emotions ,because up till now we had not seen any emotion ! Maybe prosecution never turned this vodeo over because they did not want the world to see she does seem frustrated over the whole thing ? its all in perception , each individual perception..i thnk video could work both ways!

I see your point. However, the thing is......she does not show "frustration" or anything else about Caylee. Caylee is hardly mentioned at all by Casey. That's the biggest problem. Her frustration and anger/misery seems to be only about her being there in jail.

[Kathlb]

Does anyone have a link to the list of scheduled hearings or know when they are so I can save them? I should have been saving them as we go along but didn't. :glare:

Thanks!

[SavannahStar]

Casey clearly says she wasn't supposed to meet with them. They woke her up. Jose was in NY. Jose was the one that asked for this video in court. Perhaps he's rethinking that decision? This video does nothing but show that Casey is a cold blooded killer. LP says she knew she was going to be bailed out at the time of the visitation. Me, me, me. She never asks if there is any news on Caylee. Her anger leads me to believe that George & Cindy are afraid of her. If they are afraid what about Caylee? IMO

I didn't detect a fear in general of Casey....what I did detect was their fear of crossing her, or making her angry, or demanding too much....because then she would totally shut down. They are still hoping to get information about Caylee, and they believe only Casey holds those answers. At that point I still think they have been convinced by her (snowed by her) of the nanny story. They truly want more information but she just talks in circles. They feel that if they are too harsh with her all communication will be closed completely. IMO.

[n/t]

I think the airing of this video could possibly go 2 ways though.

When someone is frustrated because they are telling the truth they may react this way too. Think of this ,we all know that if we were innocent and up against a wall being prodded for details and info when we truly did not know anything more to tell ,it would cause grea frustration ..........also remember casey says ,she has not been allowed to show feelings .............attorneys will coach people saying they should not react , not get too emotional because it could give the prosecution amo shaking the client up and be able to make the client break down ...maybe jose was coaching casey and telling her don't react don't react .....so showing this video maybe let it be seen casey does have feelings and emotions ,because up till now we had not seen any emotion ! Maybe prosecution never turned this vodeo over because they did not want the world to see she does seem frustrated over the whole thing ? its all in perception , each individual perception..i thnk video could work both ways!

I disagree somewhat. I think if a person is truly innocent they would spill their guts. Casey only talked about herself and how she was feeling and how bad they're treating her, the me me me me. When asked about Caylee, she would get angry. Angry because she knew she couldn't tell them where Caylee was because Caylee was dead.

She didn't want to talk to Lee because he would interrogate her. Hellllooo. She forgets this wasn't about her but about Caylee and finding her but all she was concerned about was getting out of jail. What did she do when she got out on bond? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

[ellegna]

I think the airing of this video could possibly go 2 ways though.

When someone is frustrated because they are telling the truth they may react this way too. Think of this ,we all know that if we were innocent and up against a wall being prodded for details and info when we truly did not know anything more to tell ,it would cause grea frustration ..........also remember casey says ,she has not been allowed to show feelings .............attorneys will coach people saying they should not react , not get too emotional because it could give the prosecution amo shaking the client up and be able to make the client break down ...maybe jose was coaching casey and telling her don't react don't react .....so showing this video maybe let it be seen casey does have feelings and emotions ,because up till now we had not seen any emotion ! Maybe prosecution never turned this vodeo over because they did not want the world to see she does seem frustrated over the whole thing ? its all in perception , each individual perception..i thnk video could work both ways!

Yes you do have a point. I can see either or as well.

[KKKKKKatie]

I disagree somewhat. I think if a person is truly innocent they would spill their guts. Casey only talked about herself and how she was feeling and how bad they're treating her, the me me me me. When asked about Caylee, she would get angry. Angry because she knew she couldn't tell them where Caylee was because Caylee was dead.

She didn't want to talk to Lee because he would interrogate her. Hellllooo. She forgets this wasn't about her but about Caylee and finding her but all she was concerned about was getting out of jail. What did she do when she got out on bond? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Never once did she ask C&G if there was anything new on the search for Caylee. I had to walk away from the video a few times....I couldn't take her "all about me" attitude :mad:

[AMS]

Greta talking with Tim MIller last night about request for his records

http://rochesterpopulist.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/greta-van-susteren-talks-to-tim-miller-of-equusearch-about-anthony-attorneys-request-for-records-of-searches-for-caylee-anthony/

[SavannahStar]

Never once did she ask C&G if there was anything new on the search for Caylee. I had to walk away from the video a few times....I couldn't take her "all about me" attitude :mad:


Unbelievable, truly unbelievable. She wasn't even faking any concern.

[Calla]

True. I guess my point was I didn't realize that Casey and George only started to communicate right before she was arrested. I thought that was odd considering George was obviously back in the house for a while. Wasn't he?:mellow:

I think that was Casey's version of things.
Strained relationship..because she threw his ******* gas cans at him last time they really talked..IMO

She exaggerates things when it suits her agenda I think.
She really wanted Dad so she could play wounded puppy.

Because mom gets her "So Frustrated" by asking her to tell the truth

[*MoonRider*]

Never once did she ask C&G if there was anything new on the search for Caylee. I had to walk away from the video a few times....I couldn't take her "all about me" attitude :mad:

I watched her release from jail on 8/21 when tropical storm Fay was in town and got extremely angry that Casey wanted a shower as her top priority. Meanwhile, Caylee was in a garbage bag around the corner in the rain. http://www.wftv.com/video/17257635/index.html:flamemad:

[n/t]

Never once did she ask C&G if there was anything new on the search for Caylee. I had to walk away from the video a few times....I couldn't take her "all about me" attitude :mad:

Remember the part where Cindy says <paraphrasing>,,,well we know where you are and that you're safe but we don't know where Caylee is, if she's being fed, etc. Casey didn't care one bit. All she cared about was getting a free out of jail card. SICKENING!

I honestly don't know how they do it. I don't understand how they can continue to stand by her.

[KKKKKKatie]

Unbelievable, truly unbelievable. She wasn't even faking any concern.

Guess she forgot all about the "game". Just made me sick.

You could just tell IMO that Cindy wanted so badly to ask her a million questions about where Caylee could be. Casey stopped her by her frustration with her :rolleyes:

She sure has mastered how to manipulate them!

[KKKKKKatie]

Remember the part where Cindy says <paraphrasing>,,,well we know where you are and that you're safe but we don't know where Caylee is, if she's being fed, etc. Casey didn't care one bit. All she cared about was getting a free out of jail card. SICKENING!

I honestly don't know how they do it. I don't understand how they can continue to stand by her.

I don't get it either n/t. I am just sickened by it all!

[desmom]

I disagree somewhat. I think if a person is truly innocent they would spill their guts. Casey only talked about herself and how she was feeling and how bad they're treating her, the me me me me. When asked about Caylee, she would get angry. Angry because she knew she couldn't tell them where Caylee was because Caylee was dead.

She didn't want to talk to Lee because he would interrogate her. Hellllooo. She forgets this wasn't about her but about Caylee and finding her but all she was concerned about was getting out of jail. What did she do when she got out on bond? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

I agree n/t. The tape gave us some insight to what many has suspected. Casey is about Casey. George and Cindy coddle her.

Casey may be 22 years old, but her tantrums remind me of a 2 year old.

jmo

[AMS]

I was just watiching the video and heard Casey say "Life's Not Fair".

I bet Caylee would agree with that statement. IMO

[klock777]

Does anyone know what the difference in the 31 min video vs. 45 min one? Does it have anything more?

[newsjunkie]

I disagree somewhat. I think if a person is truly innocent they would spill their guts. Casey only talked about herself and how she was feeling and how bad they're treating her, the me me me me. When asked about Caylee, she would get angry. Angry because she knew she couldn't tell them where Caylee was because Caylee was dead.

She didn't want to talk to Lee because he would interrogate her. Hellllooo. She forgets this wasn't about her but about Caylee and finding her but all she was concerned about was getting out of jail. What did she do when she got out on bond? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.


And Casey is the "victim" don'tcha know!

I am almost afraid to see what happens today, every day it's something else shocking. It never stops.

[newsjunkie]

Never once did she ask C&G if there was anything new on the search for Caylee. I had to walk away from the video a few times....I couldn't take her "all about me" attitude :mad:


When she saw the shirts at the beginning should she not have teared up or did she think it should have been meant for her?

[BJames]

Good morning to all...it's minus 27 here..brrrrr!

I just finished watching that video as well, and I am wondering if Jose has at least one objective person viewing these taped visitations?
The first time I watched it appeared that the only time Casey sweats a tear is when it comes to her feelings, her frustrations of being in jail...nobody 'understands' where she is coming from.
I watched it again...and not only is anything 'emotional' about 'poor Casey', but even the very few times Caylee is mentioned she doesn't break down...she gets angry..As if they shouldn't even mention Caylee, and if/when they do she gets even more frustrated that they don't understand how badly this is affecting her.
And we all know how this turns out with her being released...at that point she could have been screaming at the top of her lungs in the media for whomever had her daughter to pleaaaaase bring her home...but she didn't.
If you close your eyes while listening to this video you can almost tell what the next 'reaction' from Casey is going to be...her 'tone' sure changes between when she is speaking to George, and when Cindy is speaking to her...the reaction is predictable.
Again...I hope Jose Baez knows what he is getting into here...he may see his 'sad' client there...many others will see a self centered immature 22 year old saying what she thinks she needs to...to get her butt out of that jail. She sounds a lot like our kids did at 15..but...but...you don't understand! Sure I do..I just wasn't born yesterday...and Cindy and George still 'play'...
I don't 'fault' them for that...they want/need information that only Casey can give them/LE. But I also think it gives great insight into the dynamics in that family unit.

Just my opinion of course..

[Calla]

I thought it very telling that she gloated to mom that she does not get negative mail...as if mom deserved to but she did not and as if she were the priority and mom should focuas on being grateful that Casey gets nice mail.

And if Cindy said ..you don't know how hard it is..then Casey is like..what do you mean..THIS IS ABOUT ME!!!

Casey should be crushed and lethargic and drained..Instead she was sleeping .. ha ha while mom is sick and broken

[KKKKKKatie]

When she saw the shirts at the beginning should she not have teared up or did she think it should have been meant for her?

Well.....as far as I can see....she thinks it is all about her :rolleyes:

A victim and all :angry:

[Calla]

When she saw the shirts at the beginning should she not have teared up or did she think it should have been meant for her?

This will be the 3rd time I have said this..but it is so heartbreaking that I can't get it out of my mind...

Those shirts...If I saw a shirt with a butterfly & a photo of my child that said "fly home baby"..I would have been devastated even if I thought she had been kidnapped.
That baby had already flown home by the time those were printed. :sad:

[AMS]

Oh...Casey just said she was "so hurt" by everything being said about her. Boo-hoo.

She doesn't have anybody to lean on. Boo-hoo.

Nobody can see her side and she has to keep her mouth shut about how she feels. Boo-hoo.


It's all about CASEY!

[snowflakes]

It always creeps me out when I hear George call Casey "gorgeous" and "beautiful". I'm not ugly and my dad never called me by those names.
Maybe it's me. jmo

[KKKKKKatie]

This will be the 3rd time I have said this..but it is so heartbreaking that I can't get it out of my mind...

Those shirts...If I saw a shirt with a butterfly & a photo of my child that said "fly home baby"..I would have been devastated even if I thought she had been kidnapped.
That baby had already flown home by the time those were printed. :sad:

I know Calla! Casey is one cold hearted B if you ask me :angry:

[Calla]

Oh...Casey just said she was "so hurt" by everything being said about her. Boo-hoo.

She doesn't have anybody to lean on. Boo-hoo.

Nobody can see her side and she has to keep her mouth shut about how she feels. Boo-hoo.


It's all about CASEY!

How long can she seriously carry on with this?

When will that dilusional girl figure out that her life is over..so it doesn't really matter what mom and dad think anymore..

[AMS]

It always creeps me out when George calls Casey "gorgeous" and "beautiful". I'm not ugly and my dad never called me by those names.
Maybe it's me. jmo

I totally agree with you. It gives me the heebie-jeebies.

IMO

[BJames]

I find it interesting that it has been said (by them) that Jose was in New York during this visit, my guess is that this slipped past him..if he had have known this 'visit' would never have happened.
And we know now that the 1:1 with George and Casey never did happen...but then again..she was released to their home fairly shortly afterwards.

Just my opinion of course...

[Regina.Lampert]

G. ANTHONY: Hey, listen, I want you to know you are the boss through this whole thing. OK?

CASEY: Well, no, I`m not anymore, Dad. I haven`t been since I got here.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/15/ng.01.html


The boss? I bet she was the boss at home too. :cursing:

Good morning everyone!

Thanks for posting that n/t, I gagged when he said that, also when he said "hi beautiful" yuck, how inappropriate to the creature who killed your granddaughter.

He's right tho, this female was and remains the boss. She's running this entire nightmare, from start to finish.

I haven't viewed the entire video yet either, only what Nancy showed last night.

BTW, thank you baez for making a big deal out of it, even going to court to file a motion for it. Shows the odious creature as she really is, an evil, manipulative monster.

IMO

[Calla]

I find it interesting that it has been said (by them) that Jose was in New York during this visit, my guess is that this slipped past him..if he had have known this 'visit' would never have happened.
And we know now that the 1:1 with George and Casey never did happen...but then again..she was released to their home fairly shortly afterwards.

Just my opinion of course...And I bet the 1:1 happened then...George may not have gotten the exact answers he wanted but I will bet he got what he needed from "beautiful" when she got to that house....poor fellow

[Mairi II]

It always creeps me out when I hear George call Casey "gorgeous" and "beautiful". I'm not ugly and my dad never called me by those names.
Maybe it's me. jmo

It's not just you. That's creeped me out a little. :huh:

[spageddy]

Why did Nancy Grace choose to show the same clip of the video twice rather than take the time to show another, different part of the Ant convo?

:confused:
Oh, she probably knew I coulnd't watch last night and decided to save it for me.:tongueside:
Good morning!
I'm gonna hafta wait until Nancy plays it again tonight. I'm interested in GA. I think he's been a little "off" during this entire thing. He seems to dote on Casey, but maybe just to get Cindy's goat. He's just creepy to me. I dunno- nothing solid. HIS little temper tantrum when he shouts "The body in the car... that's not my grandaughter!" He sounded like a 2 y.o.. And that "Hand" thing... eeewww...

[desmom]

This will be the 3rd time I have said this..but it is so heartbreaking that I can't get it out of my mind...

Those shirts...If I saw a shirt with a butterfly & a photo of my child that said "fly home baby"..I would have been devastated even if I thought she had been kidnapped.
That baby had already flown home by the time those were printed. :sad:

I agree Calla. Caylee's picture inside the butterfly made me think of an angel and angel wings. Add "fly home baby" and it gave me that sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

The shirts have always bothered me. jmo

[BJames]

Another thing I noticed?
It seemed to 'irk' Casey that on Caylee's birthday (August 9th) she was under the impression that Cindy had made chili and that there were folks over at the house to visit...she didn't appear 'sad' that she wasn't there or that even Caylee wasn't there..it almost looked like she was jealous? Almost like someone was stealing her thunder and the attention should have been on 'poor Casey' and not the family eating chili..it's odd...

Just my opinion of couorse...

[shellzbi]

This will be the 3rd time I have said this..but it is so heartbreaking that I can't get it out of my mind...

Those shirts...If I saw a shirt with a butterfly & a photo of my child that said "fly home baby"..I would have been devastated even if I thought she had been kidnapped.
That baby had already flown home by the time those were printed. :sad:


Morning , So true and so sad at the same time. Casey was just so jealous of her own daughter.

The look on Cindy's face in that video tells me she knows that Caylee is gone.

She is also very aware that her daughter is the person who holds the key to where
Caylee is. IMO.

[desmom]

Another thing I noticed?
It seemed to 'irk' Casey that on Caylee's birthday (August 9th) she was under the impression that Cindy had made chili and that there were folks over at the house to visit...she didn't appear 'sad' that she wasn't there or that even Caylee wasn't there..it almost looked like she was jealous? Almost like someone was stealing her thunder and the attention should have been on 'poor Casey' and not the family eating chili..it's odd...

Just my opinion of couorse...

Yep I got the impression she was upset they had a party without her. Poor Casey was stuck in a jail cell with the blanket over her head reading her bible.

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning to all...it's minus 27 here..brrrrr!

I just finished watching that video as well, and I am wondering if Jose has at least one objective person viewing these taped visitations?
The first time I watched it appeared that the only time Casey sweats a tear is when it comes to her feelings, her frustrations of being in jail...nobody 'understands' where she is coming from.
I watched it again...and not only is anything 'emotional' about 'poor Casey', but even the very few times Caylee is mentioned she doesn't break down...she gets angry..As if they shouldn't even mention Caylee, and if/when they do she gets even more frustrated that they don't understand how badly this is affecting her.
And we all know how this turns out with her being released...at that point she could have been screaming at the top of her lungs in the media for whomever had her daughter to pleaaaaase bring her home...but she didn't.
If you close your eyes while listening to this video you can almost tell what the next 'reaction' from Casey is going to be...her 'tone' sure changes between when she is speaking to George, and when Cindy is speaking to her...the reaction is predictable.
Again...I hope Jose Baez knows what he is getting into here...he may see his 'sad' client there...many others will see a self centered immature 22 year old saying what she thinks she needs to...to get her butt out of that jail. She sounds a lot like our kids did at 15..but...but...you don't understand! Sure I do..I just wasn't born yesterday...and Cindy and George still 'play'...
I don't 'fault' them for that...they want/need information that only Casey can give them/LE. But I also think it gives great insight into the dynamics in that family unit.

Just my opinion of course..


Hiya BJ, boy do I agree with you. Lots of pathology here and any juror viewing casey anthony very cooly appraising mommy and daddy's new tee shirts will be creeped out, imo.

Absolutley no normal motherly love and concern FOR HER MISSING CHILD is evident on that tape. We know why and so will any jury, imo.

[CC I See]

Well.....as far as I can see....she thinks it is all about her :rolleyes:

A victim and all :angry:
She should know by now that she is officially listed as the Perpetrator. Caylee, her family, and those who must now deal with this tragedy are the victims.

She must again be having an identity crises brought on by delusion. Some kind soul should take her somewhere and set her straight.... and I am sure once she gets into the general population and no longer coddled in a private room, she will learn this quite quickly. I just hope that it comes out on Video like all there other tapes. This one we may actually enjoy watching.

[?noanswer]

Just want to give a great big ole THANK YOU to JB for insisting that this video be releaed. I sure was glad to see all that LE misconduct he said was there! NOT

I am feeling really good knowing that KC did not like being locked up. She had only been there 1 month and knew she had the possibility of bond. She has been locked up over 2 months now with no possibility of bond. HOORAY. HOORAY. I would really like to see how she would react on a visit with G & C, now. I have to give JB a little credit for not allowing it to happen. JMO

[bluwaters]

It always creeps me out when I hear George call Casey "gorgeous" and "beautiful". I'm not ugly and my dad never called me by those names.
Maybe it's me. jmo
I wonder if he calls Cindy by those names?

[smileyjoe]

It always creeps me out when I hear George call Casey "gorgeous" and "beautiful". I'm not ugly and my dad never called me by those names.
Maybe it's me. jmo

Yeah. It creeps me out a lot.

A wasted 5 years with a sociopathic spouse who used to call me that though, so I don't know if I am jaded about that.

Real creepy for a Dad to do that with his daughter, imo.

Joe.

[Calla]

Another thing I noticed?
It seemed to 'irk' Casey that on Caylee's birthday (August 9th) she was under the impression that Cindy had made chili and that there were folks over at the house to visit...she didn't appear 'sad' that she wasn't there or that even Caylee wasn't there..it almost looked like she was jealous? Almost like someone was stealing her thunder and the attention should have been on 'poor Casey' and not the family eating chili..it's odd...

Just my opinion of couorse...well Cindy has certainly been accused of being controlling but I don't think she was the controlling one in that house..

somehow I think if Casey didn't want to go shopping.. no one could go
If Casey didnt want to go to the beach..no one could go
If Casey wanted pizza ..everyone had to have pizza

[nothingnew]

I didn't get to watch all of NG but I remember hearing Nancy say something about why casey didn't go to the hearing originally last week. Does anyone remember the reason? TIA!

[KKKKKKatie]

Just want to give a great big ole THANK YOU to JB for insisting that this video be releaed. I sure was glad to see all that LE misconduct he said was there! NOT

I am feeling really good knowing that KC did not like being locked up. She had only been there 1 month and knew she had the possibility of bond. She has been locked up over 2 months now with no possibility of bond. HOORAY. HOORAY. I would really like to see how she would react on a visit with G & C, now. I have to give JB a little credit for not allowing it to happen. JMO

and PO'd at her parents because they "missed the chance" to bail her out :rolleyes:

Virtually everything is everyone elses fault!

[bluwaters]

She didn't want to go.

[SavannahStar]

She should know by now that she is officially listed as the Perpetrator. Caylee, her family, and those who must now deal with this tragedy are the victims.

She must again be having an identity crises brought on by delusion. Some kind soul should take her somewhere and set her straight.... and I am sure once she gets into the general population and no longer coddled in a private room, she will learn this quite quickly. I just hope that it comes out on Video like all there other tapes. This one we may actually enjoy watching.

:ohmy: You're kidding, right? I know Casey is probably (and deservedly) the most hated person in America right now, but I would never enjoy watching something like that, no matter who it is. :ohmy:

(bolding mine)

[Jeepers]

How long can she seriously carry on with this?

When will that dilusional girl figure out that her life is over..so it doesn't really matter what mom and dad think anymore..


Calla, I think Casey can go one forever. For a 22 year old girl she has me blown. I just don't know any 22 yr olds that cold and hard. That tape was in August, the public knew about Casey in July here it is January and she is still sitting in her cell eating pork skins, drawing, eating chocolate not saying anything.
I just don't see how she can hold up to all this. She is dilusional. Her life is over and it will get harder for her once she is convicted.
Just sad.

[AMS]

Another thing I noticed?
It seemed to 'irk' Casey that on Caylee's birthday (August 9th) she was under the impression that Cindy had made chili and that there were folks over at the house to visit...she didn't appear 'sad' that she wasn't there or that even Caylee wasn't there..it almost looked like she was jealous? Almost like someone was stealing her thunder and the attention should have been on 'poor Casey' and not the family eating chili..it's odd...

Just my opinion of couorse...

I picked up on that and thought she was jealous that they were having a party and focusing on Caylee. It was definately odd. IMO.

[Calla]

I didn't get to watch all of NG but I remember hearing Nancy say something about why casey didn't go to the hearing originally last week. Does anyone remember the reason? TIA!

somehow I think if Casey didn't want to go shopping.. no one could go
If Casey didnt want to go to the beach..no one could go
If Casey wanted pizza ..everyone had to have pizza
__________________
And.........
If Casey didn't want to go to court..Casey shouldn't have to go to court

[clara2]

I think when Casey goes on about not being in the loop and not knowing whats going on out in the world..she really is looking to see if her parents will update her on the newest evidence against her..like maybe they found her dead child?and she needs to know what they know in order to think up another good story.
and come on what normal mother could sit in jail and not be screaming "OMG we have to find my baby"

[CC I See]

:ohmy: You're kidding, right? I know Casey is probably (and deservedly) the most hated person in America right now, but I would never enjoy watching something like that, no matter who it is. (bolding mine)

Something like what? All I said was that some one should set her straight about who is the victim and why ..... you assumed way more than what I wrote.

[KKKKKKatie]

Calla, I think Casey can go one forever. For a 22 year old girl she has me blown. I just don't know any 22 yr olds that cold and hard. That tape was in August, the public knew about Casey in July here it is January and she is still sitting in her cell eating pork skins, drawing, eating chocolate not saying anything.
I just don't see how she can hold up to all this. She is dilusional. Her life is over and it will get harder for her once she is convicted.
Just sad.

I don't think for one minute she thinks she will be convicted. She has always gotten out of jams (usually by her parents). I don't think she thinks this is any different IMO

[nothingnew]

well Cindy has certainly been accused of being controlling but I don't think she was the controlling one in that house..

somehow I think if Casey didn't want to go shopping.. no one could go
If Casey didnt want to go to the beach..no one could go
If Casey wanted pizza ..everyone had to have pizza

I don't know-I think that was a BIG issue in that house-the control competition between those two. I think in this video you're seeing cindy try to get info on Caylee so she is showing her softer side. casey is going down either way, would someone that might like to keep a 'perfect family' image want to poke casey into trying to scratch out everyones eyes? My mind can change though so who knows?

[msgatorslayer]

George - How is your day going?

Casey - I slept in. {laughs}

Right there, it should have been streams of tears. Not good, should have been her answer.

I'm torturing myself over coffee, listening to the tape, again.:cursing:

[Elle]

well Cindy has certainly been accused of being controlling but I don't think she was the controlling one in that house..

somehow I think if Casey didn't want to go shopping.. no one could go
If Casey didnt want to go to the beach..no one could go
If Casey wanted pizza ..everyone had to have pizza

George: "Hey, listen, I want you to know you are the boss through this whole thing. OK? "

[SwFlorida]

Poor Casey, Kinda made me feel sorry for her..














NOT :tonguewag:

[leah]

I didn't get to watch all of NG but I remember hearing Nancy say something about why casey didn't go to the hearing originally last week. Does anyone remember the reason?
TIA!



You are right....this is from the transcript....

And we just learn tot mom`s excuse for a no-show in court last week. She blames her lawyer. As her daughter`s remains sit all alone in a cardboard box at a funeral home, her whole family under suspicion and seeking immunity, tot mom Casey Anthony behind bars ordering up tasty treats for herself, expensive bottled water, chocolate, fruit cocktail, a headset, deck of cards, all to enjoy at her leisure in her private jail cell.


But I never heard it mentioned again....did anyone else????

[desmom]

http://www.wesh.com/news/18487834/detail.html

Miller also talked about the strange dynamic of going into the Anthony's house for the first time while Casey was out on bond and her daughter was still missing.

"She had smiles all over her face, ran around like she had just won a cheerleading competition. Very discouraging from the beginning," Miller said.

Early on, Miller said it was obvious Casey had no remorse. Not from what she said. It was what she didn't say.

"Being in that house over a four day period of time, Casey never even said the word Caylee one time. Certainly we had a lot of concern," he said.

[daHawg]

Cindy's reaction was interesting when she asked Casey about who she picked for the one on one and Casey said she picked Dad, and Cindy just looked taken aback and then said well then talk to your Dad and handed George the phone.

[msgatorslayer]

Poor Casey, Kinda made me feel sorry for her..














NOT :tonguewag:

Pity party for Casey.:tonguewag:

The way she bangs her fist in the air, can you imagine her with the :hammer:

[nothingnew]

Wow! I guess I need to watch the video but it's too early for those people. If the defense is going with the "other zani" did it then would n't they want to be sketching out someone for us to look for? 6 months, how many attorneys? and not one sketch artist?

[cassidy]

George - How is your day going?

Casey - I slept in. {laughs}

Right there, it should have been streams of tears. Not good, should have been her answer.

I'm torturing myself over coffee, listening to the tape, again.:cursing:

I just watched it again this morning too. WOW! that girl is a master manipulator. She knows exactly which buttons to push with her parents to shut them up and put them back in line and make them back off. Wonder if she has masterd that skill with Jose too? I don't think she had any intention at all of seeing George one-on-one. And I do think that at that point in time at least, Cindy was still buying all Caey's bull. IMO Cindy was upset at seeing HER baby locked up. they way they all tap dance around each other is unreal.
JMO

[SavannahStar]

Something like what? All I said was that some one should set her straight about who is the victim and why ..... you assumed way more than what I wrote.


Maybe I did, and if so, I apologize. I just know there are many posts about people wanting her to be in general pop..and usually there is just one reason for that (oftentimes, stated; other times, implied). So my mind just naturally focused on "a video of that"...:ohmy:....so you can see where my mind went.

[marshmallow]

I say this because the time she went off in rage and frustration was when she was being prodded and her rage came when she explained that ,while they want her to talk she is over rided , she also says what can I say I have said every little thing I know ,I have gone over and over this thinking of anything anything that could be relevant and I have given anything I can think and here I sit , out of the loop can;t do a thing but basicaly sit on my hands and her excuse is how am I supposed to feel ?

Thats what the rage was , and it could be seen that way in the times she said it abd the rage came out about THAT ....we are all privy to the facts of the case of course., but the rage was in that stance .......I have to admit being totally honest that while she does not have all the right feelings portrayed at all the right times I can connect with being prodded and frustrated when clearly I know nothing more ................I say this from the stance that IF it were true and I knew nothing I too would go into a rage out of shear frustration .




but she does/did know more.

[SavannahStar]

Calla, I think Casey can go one forever. For a 22 year old girl she has me blown. I just don't know any 22 yr olds that cold and hard. That tape was in August, the public knew about Casey in July here it is January and she is still sitting in her cell eating pork skins, drawing, eating chocolate not saying anything.
I just don't see how she can hold up to all this. She is dilusional. Her life is over and it will get harder for her once she is convicted.
Just sad.

She truly makes my head spin. Never seen ANYONE like her, in all the cases I've followed. She's one of a kind.

[desmom]

On the Record w/Greta

Casey Anthony in New Jailhouse Video: 'I'm So Beyond Frustrated!'
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480148,00.html

Casey: No, you don't, because you are still asking me if there is anything I can tell you that can help, that I am the one that can do this. I can't.

The opportunity was there that I probably could have helped. I am trying. I was trying. There is nothing more that I can say or do until I'm home, and even then, I do not know what I can do from that point. But I can least do something other than sit on my butt on day and read or look up stuff for my case, because that has to be my focus right now. That has to be my focus-

Cindy: Caylee-

Casey: Mom, if that is my focus, which it is, I can't do anything from here. I do not have access to the Internet. I can't make phone calls. I can't go anywhere.

[cassidy]

http://www.wesh.com/news/18487834/detail.html

Miller also talked about the strange dynamic of going into the Anthony's house for the first time while Casey was out on bond and her daughter was still missing.

"She had smiles all over her face, ran around like she had just won a cheerleading competition. Very discouraging from the beginning," Miller said.

Early on, Miller said it was obvious Casey had no remorse. Not from what she said. It was what she didn't say.

"Being in that house over a four day period of time, Casey never even said the word Caylee one time. Certainly we had a lot of concern," he said.

Bet he's never seen anything like her and probably is praying that he never does again.

JMO

[msgatorslayer]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480148,00.html

Casey: No, you don't, because you are still asking me if there is anything I can tell you that can help, that I am the one that can do this. I can't.

The opportunity was there that I probably could have helped. I am trying. I was trying. There is nothing more that I can say or do until I'm home, and even then, I do not know what I can do from that point. But I can least do something other than sit on my butt on day and read or look up stuff for my case, because that has to be my focus right now. That has to be my focus-

Cindy: Caylee-

Casey: Mom, if that is my focus, which it is, I can't do anything from here. I do not have access to the Internet. I can't make phone calls. I can't go anywhere.

Thanks, Des. Priceless!!! Mother of the year material!!!

[nothingnew]

You are right....this is from the transcript....

And we just learn tot mom`s excuse for a no-show in court last week. She blames her lawyer. As her daughter`s remains sit all alone in a cardboard box at a funeral home, her whole family under suspicion and seeking immunity, tot mom Casey Anthony behind bars ordering up tasty treats for herself, expensive bottled water, chocolate, fruit cocktail, a headset, deck of cards, all to enjoy at her leisure in her private jail cell.


But I never heard it mentioned again....did anyone else????

That's it! I bet that's what got a laugh out of her in court that day. baez probably told 'his girl' that he'd take the fall for this one. and you know for once I'd say casey might be telling the truth-it is his fault, he's her lawyer he should be better at faking emotions or reminding her when the appropriate time to shed a tear might be. She sure can't figure all of that stuff out on her own, she hasn't a clue.

[cassidy]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480148,00.html



Casey: Mom, if that is my focus, which it is, I can't do anything from here. I do not have access to the Internet. I can't make phone calls. I can't go anywhere.


which begs the questions: What could she find on the internet and who could she call?

[marshmallow]

Another thing I noticed?
It seemed to 'irk' Casey that on Caylee's birthday (August 9th) she was under the impression that Cindy had made chili and that there were folks over at the house to visit...she didn't appear 'sad' that she wasn't there or that even Caylee wasn't there..it almost looked like she was jealous? Almost like someone was stealing her thunder and the attention should have been on 'poor Casey' and not the family eating chili..it's odd...

Just my opinion of couorse...


during that portion I was kind of waiting to see if she asked "what'd Caylee get for her birthday" because during this whole tape she acted as if Caylee wasn't really missing. THat's the bottom line to me. I saw emotioin from Cindy and some from George but nothing from Casey that didn't have to do with Casey. Caylee seemed to be an after thought for Casey.

[BrownEyedF]

Calla, I think Casey can go one forever. For a 22 year old girl she has me blown. I just don't know any 22 yr olds that cold and hard. That tape was in August, the public knew about Casey in July here it is January and she is still sitting in her cell eating pork skins, drawing, eating chocolate not saying anything.
I just don't see how she can hold up to all this. She is dilusional. Her life is over and it will get harder for her once she is convicted.
Just sad.


I agree she is cold and hard. She doesn't care about anyone else, and as long as that holds true we will never know the whole truth about what happened to Caylee.

Casey doesn't have any incentive to tell the truth now IMO. Things are only going to go downhill for her from this point forward and I think she will maintain her silence.

I think the only hope is that she truly 'finds' God and then she may tell the truth. However, all her talk in the video about the bible made me want to gag. I think she opens that book and looks for things that are self-serving. Whatever. At least she has it open. Maybe some of it will seep into that sponge between her ears.

[Destini]

George - How is your day going?

Casey - I slept in. {laughs}

Right there, it should have been streams of tears. Not good, should have been her answer.

I'm torturing myself over coffee, listening to the tape, again.:cursing:

Then she says, "Why is she crying," not "is mom okay, what's wrong, has something happened, did you find Caylee" just why is "she" crying. And then immediately after that laughs about something. She is cold.

[msgatorslayer]

which begs the questions: What could she find on the internet and who could she call?

TonE:thumbsup:

[nana6]

On the Record w/Greta

Casey Anthony in New Jailhouse Video: 'I'm So Beyond Frustrated!'
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480148,00.html

Casey: No, you don't, because you are still asking me if there is anything I can tell you that can help, that I am the one that can do this. I can't.

The opportunity was there that I probably could have helped. I am trying. I was trying. There is nothing more that I can say or do until I'm home, and even then, I do not know what I can do from that point. But I can least do something other than sit on my butt on day and read or look up stuff for my case, because that has to be my focus right now. That has to be my focus-

Cindy: Caylee-

Casey: Mom, if that is my focus, which it is, I can't do anything from here. I do not have access to the Internet. I can't make phone calls. I can't go anywhere.

Casey is right. No she cannot do anything from her cell. No more partying, tatoos (except when Big Bertha gives her one in prison), no more stealing from her grandmother no more anything that is evil. No more.

[newsjunkie]

I think when Casey goes on about not being in the loop and not knowing whats going on out in the world..she really is looking to see if her parents will update her on the newest evidence against her..like maybe they found her dead child?and she needs to know what they know in order to think up another good story.
and come on what normal mother could sit in jail and not be screaming "OMG we have to find my baby"


She claims to be out of the loop but gets letters from friends, reads people magazine about herself and watches NG ?
That's the kind of thing I would have called her on if I were Cindy.
Also when she remarks about being arrested so soon and not getting to say anything why didn't the GP's yell that she did get a chance but she lied and lied and lied.
I could NEVER play along with her no matter what and after the fact I would DISOWN her.
Call me hard but thats the last thing anyone who knows me would say about me.
I just have limits and I always thought lying was the limit but murder trumps that.
I could never love or forgive someone who stole my precious grandbaby in such a cruel way.

[marshmallow]

Just want to give a great big ole THANK YOU to JB for insisting that this video be releaed. I sure was glad to see all that LE misconduct he said was there! NOT

I am feeling really good knowing that KC did not like being locked up. She had only been there 1 month and knew she had the possibility of bond. She has been locked up over 2 months now with no possibility of bond. HOORAY. HOORAY. I would really like to see how she would react on a visit with G & C, now. I have to give JB a little credit for not allowing it to happen. JMO

at first I thought his "misconduct" accusation was because of the potential 1 on 1 but then I remembered Casey talking about him setting that 1 on 1 up.

Now I think it's because of this visit. He forbade it and Casey did it anyway. He was out of town and didn't want her speaking to anyone and she did and it's on tape.

However, Casey is an adult and she could've refused it but chose to come out and have the interview and that isn't misconduct, it's Casey wanting to talk about Casey.

[marshmallow]

I didn't get to watch all of NG but I remember hearing Nancy say something about why casey didn't go to the hearing originally last week. Does anyone remember the reason? TIA!

she didn't want to go.

[trich]

I see your point. However, the thing is......she does not show "frustration" or anything else about Caylee. Caylee is hardly mentioned at all by Casey. That's the biggest problem. Her frustration and anger/misery seems to be only about her being there in jail.


I agree...the video showed Casey was thinking of no one but Casey.
She constantly says she has no one and nothing.
She tells her parents they have each other and she has nothing.
She can't do anything about anything.
It is all about her.
I can't believe George saying she is the boss.....why doesn't he just come out and say Casey tell us what you did with Caylee. Tell us the truth. But he talks like a child himself telling her she is the boss .....
I actually was sickened watching before I watched the whole thing.
I still have not gone back to finish because I litterally wanted to strangle that whole family .
Baez is the one who requested that video ....I too bet he is sorry he did now.
I hope they show the video after all the evidence is presented ...just before or if they are allowed during closing arguments....I think the jury needs to be reminded about how Casey is all about Casey just before they go to deliberate.

[Elle]

By telling them she was not supposed to meet with them, that she didn't have to meet with them, Casey lets them know they should be grateful she is even speaking with them.

George tells Casey how thankful, how grateful he is for Casey allowing the visit.

when it doesn't go as she wishes, she threatens to walk out.

they retreat

she keeps them in their place.

Her power lies in witholding the truth, she holds the key, telling the truth would strip her of her power and render her useless. She knows they desperately want answers, she knows witholding keeps them on their knees.
imo, moo

[*MoonRider*]

Cindy's reaction was interesting when she asked Casey about who she picked for the one on one and Casey said she picked Dad, and Cindy just looked taken aback and then said well then talk to your Dad and handed George the phone.

Cindy seemed totally crushed because Casey was her best friend after all. :wink:

[openminded]

Good Morning,

I'm still :w00t: over the video? WTH? Any thoughts on why this one was held back? Some are saying it was an oversight. I don't think so. I'll have to watch it again to see if there was anything missed.

Interesting that George only started communicating with her right before her arrest? Did anyone else catch that? I know he and Cindy were separated for a while but why wouldn't he be communicating with his daughter? hmmmmmmm

I definitely don't think it was an oversight but I can see why Baez wouldn't want it out there. The rage on Casey's face alone is reason enough for him to try to keep it from being released.

Since Cindy was the family's support, Casey might have not wanted Cindy to take him back. It was probably easier having only one parent to manipulate instead of two. IIRC, Casey complained to a friend that George was always trying to tell her how to behave. I can't imagine she was receptive to that. MOO.

[desmom]

August 14 interview: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480148,00.html

Casey: Mom, if that is my focus, which it is, I can't do anything from here. I do not have access to the Internet. I can't make phone calls. I can't go anywhere.

One month earlier:

July 16 phone call home: http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2008/7/26/368409.html

Cindy: Who’s fault is, who’s fault is you sitting in the jail? You’re blaming me that you’re sitting in the jail? Blame yourself for telling lies.

Casey: It’s not my fault.

Cindy: You mean it’s not your fault? What do you mean it’s not your fault, sweetheart? If you’d have told ‘em the truth, and not lied about everything, they wouldn’t …

[cassidy]

TonE:thumbsup:

Bet he won't ever take her calls again :)

[KKKKKKatie]

By telling them she was not supposed to meet with them, that she didn't have to meet with them, Casey lets them know they should be grateful she is even speaking with them.

George tells Casey how thankful, how grateful he is for Casey allowing the visit.

when it doesn't go as she wishes, she threatens to walk out.

they retreat

she keeps them in their place.

Her power lies in witholding the truth, she holds the key, telling the truth would strip her of her power and render her useless. She knows they desperately want answers, she knows witholding keeps them on their knees.
imo, moo

ITA Elle....and this isn't the first time this has worked for her with them! She has become a master at it.

[n/t]

On the Record w/Greta

Casey Anthony in New Jailhouse Video: 'I'm So Beyond Frustrated!'
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,480148,00.html

Casey: No, you don't, because you are still asking me if there is anything I can tell you that can help, that I am the one that can do this. I can't.

The opportunity was there that I probably could have helped. I am trying. I was trying. There is nothing more that I can say or do until I'm home, and even then, I do not know what I can do from that point. But I can least do something other than sit on my butt on day and read or look up stuff for my case, because that has to be my focus right now. That has to be my focus-

Cindy: Caylee-

Casey: Mom, if that is my focus, which it is, I can't do anything from here. I do not have access to the Internet. I can't make phone calls. I can't go anywhere.


Unreal, eh? Her focus was not Caylee it was her case...and how she could get away with murder.

[Destini]

at first I thought his "misconduct" accusation was because of the potential 1 on 1 but then I remembered Casey talking about him setting that 1 on 1 up.

Now I think it's because of this visit. He forbade it and Casey did it anyway. He was out of town and didn't want her speaking to anyone and she did and it's on tape.

However, Casey is an adult and she could've refused it but chose to come out and have the interview and that isn't misconduct, it's Casey wanting to talk about Casey.

Jose's trying his hardest to find misconduct related to this particular visit because he knows how bad his client looks. He'll probably come up with 3 or 4 motions to try to keep this tape out, paralegals working overtime. Just because she talked to her parents against his wishes, if that's true, is not misconduct by the jail IMO. He can forbid her to talk all he wants, but if she does .... nothing he can do. Hopefully she went against his wishes in some way we don't even know about yet.

[nothingnew]

Maybe I did, and if so, I apologize. I just know there are many posts about people wanting her to be in general pop..and usually there is just one reason for that (oftentimes, stated; other times, implied). So my mind just naturally focused on "a video of that"...:ohmy:....so you can see where my mind went.

One thing though, there is more than one reason to want her in gen. pop. There's the 'oooh, you'll get yours now!' reason that I think you were talking about but there is also the 'get your lazy butt off your bed and get to work' one- just look at how Nancy gets upset that casey gets water and chocolate. Apparently that does bug a lot of folks. I'm sure there's other reasons though. I'm just glad she's locked up-no sunshine, no cell, no brownies to be baked.

[Destini]

I definitely don't think it was an oversight but I can see why Baez wouldn't want it out there. The rage on Casey's face alone is reason enough for him to try to keep it from being released.

Since Cindy was the family's support, Casey might have not wanted Cindy to take him back. It was probably easier having only one parent to manipulate instead of two. IIRC, Casey complained to a friend that George was always trying to tell her how to behave. I can't imagine she was receptive to that. MOO.

Plus, less money spent on George would've meant more money for Casey in her mind.

[msgatorslayer]

Bet he won't ever take her calls again :)

It's frustrating to watch this video. All about Casey. G n C coddling, not wanting to push the PPOF. Casey has them wrapped right around her finger. One of them should have asked her, tell me who you want to call and I'll do it for you. Did you remember Zanny's other phone number?

[destiny1]

Good Morning.


Have any of you ever seen such a disgusting display pf power of a 'child" over her parents? Casey has the anthonys wrapped around her little finger. They are practically bowing down to her. Grateful to see her.

Keep in mind, this is before the Grand Jury and the discovery of Caylees remains.

If Cindy was this manipulated by Casey then, I have to say that some kind of a major change has taken place in her because the Nasty Obnoxious Cindy that we see now is not what I saw in that video.

I'm going to have to rethink this relationship. Originally, I thought that they all had long lived dirty little secrets that they were holding over each other. Now I am wondering if casey hasn't been driving that anthony bus all along. But Why?

[Barbara fl.]

I was just watiching the video and heard Casey say "Life's Not Fair".

I bet Caylee would agree with that statement. IMO


I just watched the video also....That girl has been manipulating her parents for a very long time....She need a good old fashion rod to her butt.....I would have been the one to hang up on her....it's so obvious she just was not going to talk about where Caylee was...That of course was because she knew just where Caylee was.....

I'm sorry, but I believe so strongly that Casey hated Caylee...she is only concerned about getting out of jail....she has no remorse at all....She is probably hating Caylee all the more right now and blaming her for this whole thing....

If Lenny Padilla hadn't but into this and sprung her out that first time, she just might have broke...

Well she now has a lifetime in prison to do all the hating she wants to do.....she is where she belongs.....

[*MoonRider*]

Jose's trying his hardest to find misconduct related to this particular visit because he knows how bad his client looks. He'll probably come up with 3 or 4 motions to try to keep this tape out, paralegals working overtime. Just because she talked to her parents against his wishes, if that's true, is not misconduct by the jail IMO. He can forbid her to talk all he wants, but if she does .... nothing he can do. Hopefully she went against his wishes in some way we don't even know about yet.

The only misconduct I saw was from inmate 08049710. :angry:

[Barbara fl.]

I agree she is cold and hard. She doesn't care about anyone else, and as long as that holds true we will never know the whole truth about what happened to Caylee.

Casey doesn't have any incentive to tell the truth now IMO. Things are only going to go downhill for her from this point forward and I think she will maintain her silence.

I think the only hope is that she truly 'finds' God and then she may tell the truth. However, all her talk in the video about the bible made me want to gag. I think she opens that book and looks for things that are self-serving. Whatever. At least she has it open. Maybe some of it will seep into that sponge between her ears.


At this point I really don't think she will break...she may go a little bananas in there but she wont break....she is too cold hearted and has no remorse for what she did...She is a piece of work.....she doesn't deserve anyone to be by her side....she deserves to wallow in her self pity for the rest of her life.....which is what she is going to do....

I totally agree with what you said about her and the bible.....

[destiny1]

Unreal, eh? Her focus was not Caylee it was her case...and how she could get away with murder.


I hope that the Prosecution uses this tape in evidence and has a good analytical psychologist explain to the jury just what Casey is.

[marshmallow]

By telling them she was not supposed to meet with them, that she didn't have to meet with them, Casey lets them know they should be grateful she is even speaking with them.

George tells Casey how thankful, how grateful he is for Casey allowing the visit.

when it doesn't go as she wishes, she threatens to walk out.

they retreat

she keeps them in their place.

Her power lies in witholding the truth, she holds the key, telling the truth would strip her of her power and render her useless. She knows they desperately want answers, she knows witholding keeps them on their knees.
imo, moo



exactly.

I notice the roles for this family falling into place.

Cindy: Queen Mum, but losing her throne to the Princess. Lots of power struggles there, she raised a Princess but has to fight for control of the power. This time Casey has the best weapon and she's not going to give it up.

Casey: spoiled rotten with emphisis on rotten. Self absorbed, selfcentered, and coniving.

Lee: left out, overshadowed by his mother and sister. Delegated to the role of peacekeeper and secret keeper. Never the center of affection

George: Cindy's whipping boy, Casey's scorn target. Remember the way she felt about George earlier ..from her e-mails and texts and facebook. She dispised him, until she needed him. Cindy will always keep George in his place because he screwed up and now she owns his...donkey.

Casey must've learned at an early age what works with each family member. Guilt and threats (w/Mom), or keeping secrets from the world (w/ Lee), or the threat of losing her temper and her affection (George)

if you look at each of these jailhouse tapes with them embers of her family you can see her work the buttons.
<in my words>
Flirty and on the same team with Lee, angry and resentful with Cindy, playing the wounded little victim with George "but Daddy we've only just reconnected...bateyesbatbatbat... I picked you" "haha Mother, I chose him you horrible woman how dare you question me." " see what happens when you push me too hard Lee, now I've cut you off and you're not on my team anymore".



poor Caylee.

[cassidy]

Good Morning.


Have any of you ever seen such a disgusting display pf power of a 'child" over her parents? Casey has the anthonys wrapped around her little finger. They are practically bowing down to her. Grateful to see her.

Keep in mind, this is before the Grand Jury and the discovery of Caylees remains.

If Cindy was this manipulated by Casey then, I have to say that some kind of a major change has taken place in her because the Nasty Obnoxious Cindy that we see now is not what I saw in that video.

I'm going to have to rethink this relationship. Originally, I thought that they all had long lived dirty little secrets that they were holding over each other. Now I am wondering if casey hasn't been driving that anthony bus all along. But Why?

She's driving the bus because they allow her to drive it. Probably always have. I've seen it happen with extended family members. At 2 the kid pitches a fit. Mom and Dad give in. At 3 the fits continue and Mom and Dad give in. And so on. They lost control at a very young age most likely.

JMO

[desmom]

Video shows a frustrated Casey Anthony talking to her parents
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-video-011508,0,398874.story

"I have no one to comfort me but myself," she said.

Anthony told her mother that she wanted investigators' help, but that the detectives needed to help her too.

"I need to be looked at as a victim because …..I'm just as much of a victim as the rest of you. And it hasn't been portrayed that way."

[playnice]

Then she says, "Why is she crying," not "is mom okay, what's wrong, has something happened, did you find Caylee" just why is "she" crying. And then immediately after that laughs about something. She is cold.

I actually felt sorry for Cindy. Its obvious she is falling apart and Casey had to ask why she is crying. Then she faked and said something about that only took a minute . Reminded me of her saying, "Why do they want to talk to me?" This girl is beyond dispicable.

[Barbara fl.]

After watching that whole cideo...I am totally convinced that Baez has forbidden her to have any visitors.....In a way I am glad....now she has nothing at all to look forward to and she can now see what her life will be....alone except for other people that are in the same boat.....

I as a parent and grandparent would have walked out of that visit before Casey threatened to hang up.....I would not be back because I wouldn't want to not because she didn't want to see me.....I would let her know that she now stands alone.....daughter or no daughter....I would NOT put up with that **** that she is handing out......I would grieve her away......JMOO

[Barbara fl.]

She claims to be out of the loop but gets letters from friends, reads people magazine about herself and watches NG ?
That's the kind of thing I would have called her on if I were Cindy.
Also when she remarks about being arrested so soon and not getting to say anything why didn't the GP's yell that she did get a chance but she lied and lied and lied.
I could NEVER play along with her no matter what and after the fact I would DISOWN her.
Call me hard but thats the last thing anyone who knows me would say about me.
I just have limits and I always thought lying was the limit but murder trumps that.
I could never love or forgive someone who stole my precious grandbaby in such a cruel way.


I would do the very same thing....while I was grieving for my granddaughter, I would be grieving her away.....I WOULD NOT BE STANDING BY HER.....sorry, but it's the truth......

[newsjunkie]

After watching that whole cideo...I am totally convinced that Baez has forbidden her to have any visitors.....In a way I am glad....now she has nothing at all to look forward to and she can now see what her life will be....alone except for other people that are in the same boat.....

I as a parent and grandparent would have walked out of that visit before Casey threatened to hang up.....I would not be back because I wouldn't want to not because she didn't want to see me.....I would let her know that she now stands alone.....daughter or no daughter....I would NOT put up with that **** that she is handing out......I would grieve her away......JMOO



I guess that's a better way of putting it than I did in my post ( grieve her away )

[destiny1]

A while back there was an article that some other poster put up which was written by a body language expert who said that it was her impression that Cindy was jealous of the relationship between Casey and George. Casey selecting her father over her mother for the conference should have been no surprise for Cindy, if she were not deluged with issues. In my opinion, it's almost like a moth beating itself up against a light. She keeps going for more. She just doesn't "get it".

More jealousy. certainly the ugliest of emotions. casey jealous of caylee, even after caylees death at her hands. cindy jealous of George and caseys relationship. Who knows what lurks in the heart of Lee.

[*MoonRider*]

By telling them she was not supposed to meet with them, that she didn't have to meet with them, Casey lets them know they should be grateful she is even speaking with them.

George tells Casey how thankful, how grateful he is for Casey allowing the visit.

when it doesn't go as she wishes, she threatens to walk out.

they retreat

she keeps them in their place.

Her power lies in witholding the truth, she holds the key, telling the truth would strip her of her power and render her useless. She knows they desperately want answers, she knows witholding keeps them on their knees.
imo, moo

ITA When a sociopath identifies someone as a good game piece, she studies that person. She makes it her business to know how that person can be manipulated and used, and, to this end just how her chosen pawn can be flattered and charmed. In addition she knows how to promote a sense of familiarity or intimacy by claiming that she and her victim are similar in some way. Victims often recall statements like "You know, I think you and are a lot alike." :scared:

[kitty1182]

I just watched the video also....That girl has been manipulating her parents for a very long time....She need a good old fashion rod to her butt.....I would have been the one to hang up on her....it's so obvious she just was not going to talk about where Caylee was...That of course was because she knew just where Caylee was.....

I'm sorry, but I believe so strongly that Casey hated Caylee...she is only concerned about getting out of jail....she has no remorse at all....She is probably hating Caylee all the more right now and blaming her for this whole thing....

If Lenny Padilla hadn't but into this and sprung her out that first time, she just might have broke...

Well she now has a lifetime in prison to do all the hating she wants to do.....she is where she belongs.....


I so agree with your 3rd sentence...Mine got one at a young age, he is 37 now, has never in his life talked to me the way she does to C and G...I get respect from my son...I would jump him like a mountain lion if he ever talked to me that way and he knows it too..

[Barbara fl.]

Video shows a frustrated Casey Anthony talking to her parents
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-video-011508,0,398874.story

"I have no one to comfort me but myself," she said.

Anthony told her mother that she wanted investigators' help, but that the detectives needed to help her too.

"I need to be looked at as a victim because …..I'm just as much of a victim as the rest of you. And it hasn't been portrayed that way."


She destroyed the comfort that she would have had for life.....now she will get life....behind bars....where she belongs....


I took notice to the part where she said that the other people in jail are there for the very same reason....she said it like, "why so much over me"?....Another thing that Scott Peterson thought....it would blow over and everyone would just go right on about their business and she would no longer have anything standing in her way of going out to party....They are certainly 2 of a kind......heaven only knows how many more are out here....scary....

[kitty1182]

She's driving the bus because they allow her to drive it. Probably always have. I've seen it happen with extended family members. At 2 the kid pitches a fit. Mom and Dad give in. At 3 the fits continue and Mom and Dad give in. And so on. They lost control at a very young age most likely.

JMO

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[no1what]

Good morning

Yes we did see Casey in another light. :mad:

Can you just imagine now what may have happened that night? Casey and Cindy engaged in a heated argument. Cindy goes for Casey's throat. Casey is enraged and leaves house with Caylee. Caylee is scared and crying. Casey has had just about enough. Puts duct tape Across Caylee's mouth. Caylee is still struggling. Casey grabs Caylee's blanket, pillow, baby doll and smothers Caylee. (I always kept blankets/pillows in my car)
Prosecution may believe Caylee was killed in a fit of anger and this video proves Casey is capable of that. Yes.....I can see JB being very nervous how the jury will perceive Casey after watching this tape.


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The reason Casey said that Caylee is ok and she is being taken care of is because she knows she's dead and is in the hands of God and envisions the Angels taking care of her. hint she's in a better place sort of thing.

[destiny1]

Video shows a frustrated Casey Anthony talking to her parents
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-video-011508,0,398874.story

"I have no one to comfort me but myself," she said.

Anthony told her mother that she wanted investigators' help, but that the detectives needed to help her too.

"I need to be looked at as a victim because …..I'm just as much of a victim as the rest of you. And it hasn't been portrayed that way."

What I got out of that was that she never acknowledged CAYLEE as a victim.

[nothingnew]

As candid as George was in his interviews with LE, I doubt he saw the body, smelled it, yes, but his nose up to the decomp stain, yes, but with the timeline LE has provided, Caylee was already on the side of the road rotting the day of the gas can retrieval incident.

I thought we were supposed to give George a free pass because he seems like one of those old fashioned 50's Dads?

jmo

I don't know anything about a free pass for george. I just don't think he gets the attention on this board that the anthony women get because he didn't get that attention at 'cindys' house either AND I think he preferred it that way (fly under the radar)-but that's just my thought-I have never met any of these people-I just go by what I see and hear from them.

[CC I See]

After watching that whole cideo...I am totally convinced that Baez has forbidden her to have any visitors.....In a way I am glad....now she has nothing at all to look forward to and she can now see what her life will be....alone except for other people that are in the same boat.....

I as a parent and grandparent would have walked out of that visit before Casey threatened to hang up.....I would not be back because I wouldn't want to not because she didn't want to see me.....I would let her know that she now stands alone.....daughter or no daughter....I would NOT put up with that **** that she is handing out......I would grieve her away......JMOO
I made a like statement earlier and got blasted by mothers who said they would never stop loving their daughter (children) no matter WHAT they had done. But there comes a time when given the right set of circumstances, a parent has to pick self preservation and the good of the family over the child who no longer deserves such love and devotion. I also wanted to say, that if Casey Anthony was their daughter who had allegedly killed their granddaughter, they might change their mind. Just look at the damage that has been inflicted on George and Cindy.... whether you like them or not there has been real damage inflicted here.

I also got somewhat blasted for saying that when Casey get into the general population, that her experience is somehow recorded. Many but not all of us need to see that she is no longer coddled living in a private cell being sheltered from prison life reality. She should be treated just like the rest of the inmates. Would I like for someone to harm her. No, but I wouldn't mind seeing someone place a strip of duct tape across her mouth for awhile. At least it would wipe that smile off her face.

[destiny1]

I actually felt sorry for Cindy. Its obvious she is falling apart and Casey had to ask why she is crying. Then she faked and said something about that only took a minute . Reminded me of her saying, "Why do they want to talk to me?" This girl is beyond dispicable.

Notice the lack of excitement or any other emotion when she asked that? " Did you find Caylee" was just an aside. :cursing:

[daHawg]

As candid as George was in his interviews with LE, I doubt he saw the body, smelled it, yes, but his nose up to the decomp stain, yes, but with the timeline LE has provided, Caylee was already on the side of the road rotting the day of the gas can retrieval incident.

I thought we were supposed to give George a free pass because he seems like one of those old fashioned 50's Dads?

jmo

I think when he says he put his nose up to the stain that was during the "cleaning" time and he was seeing if the smell was getting and better as in going away. Because during that part in the video he even says and then stops himself real fast..."I really wish I hadn't..." it left the strong impression that he was going to say clean that car. IMO. I think he tried cleaning the stain and that was when he put his nose to it to see if it was dissipating any.

[kitty1182]

Now that we have seen more of their family dynamics..I wonder if CA and GA now feel that she had a plan for them too..

They must read the message boards to see how many of us, with no personal feelins to get in the way, have figured it out..

I really feel she was gonna do something to mom and dad, since at the beginning she felt she got away with murder..for a while anyway..

I do feel better now knowin that she knows her goose is cooked..

Hi neighbor.....She is gone, that's for sure....I hope the women in prison who love and misses their kids are keeping up with this case if they can...:wink:

[newsjunkie]

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The reason Casey said that Caylee is ok and she is being taken care of is because she knows she's dead and is in the hands of God and envisions the Angels taking care of her. hint she's in a better place sort of thing.


I don't agree, I don't think Casey gives 2 hoots where Caylee is now.
I say that because when anyone mentions Caylee she turns it back to herself immediately.

[Barbara fl.]

Now that we have seen more of their family dynamics..I wonder if CA and GA now feel that she had a plan for them too..

They must read the message boards to see how many of us, with no personal feelins to get in the way, have figured it out..

I really feel she was gonna do something to mom and dad, since at the beginning she felt she got away with murder..for a while anyway..

I do feel better now knowin that she knows her goose is cooked..



I also believe that she was going to do her parents in....if you can cold bloodedly murder the child you gave birth to...you are capable of doing anything.....She needs to rot in jail....

[ConchGirl]

Now that we have seen more of their family dynamics..I wonder if CA and GA now feel that she had a plan for them too..

They must read the message boards to see how many of us, with no personal feelins to get in the way, have figured it out..

I really feel she was gonna do something to mom and dad, since at the beginning she felt she got away with murder..for a while anyway..

I do feel better now knowin that she knows her goose is cooked..

This pic shows the family dynamics http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/Cinncasey.jpg

Casey not a care in the world just indicted on first degree murder.
Cindy I'll show them. IMO

[Destini]

Now that we have seen more of their family dynamics..I wonder if CA and GA now feel that she had a plan for them too..

They must read the message boards to see how many of us, with no personal feelins to get in the way, have figured it out..

I really feel she was gonna do something to mom and dad, since at the beginning she felt she got away with murder..for a while anyway..

I do feel better now knowin that she knows her goose is cooked..

I was thinking about this last night. In hindsight a really chilling conversation was the one where Cindy asks her "are we in danger?" Silence from Casey. Cindy again asks "are we in danger?" After a pause, Casey just says something like "Let's just leave it at that," suggesting she doesn't want to talk about it.

Supposedly, according to Casey's words, they were in "danger" from the kidnappers .... but in psycho world the real danger was her. She even looks psycho in those still shots from the video last night.

[starling]

No, I don't think she ever had the one on one. IMO, Jose talked her out of it.

Thinking overnight about this last (lost) jail video~
In Baez, Casey has met what she feels familiar with = a person who lies with ease and
a person that treats/looks/hugs/ her like she's all that n' a bag of chips.
But Baez,the attorney,will drive home after the guilty verdict n' have a nice dinner/evening/ on his boat w friends while Casey shuffles off to the big house.
In this August video, I truly believe Cindy & George knew Casey disposed of a dead Caylee.
Casey knew they knew.That is why she was cutting them off from visits & Baez became her everything. IMO Lee straddled the fence because of pressure from both camps and Casey ("the boss") picked him. Lord knows what they all did after that....
JMO & theory...MOO!

[msgatorslayer]

Notice the lack of excitement or any other emotion when she asked that? " Did you find Caylee" was just an aside. :cursing:

She's a good case study, for sure. It's fascinating that she is not capable to realizing that it would be in her best interest to at least ACT interested in finding her Daughter. A true psycho! She doesn't understand normal emotions. Asking Geo why her Mom is crying!!!

[JHP]

This pic shows the family dynamics http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/Cinncasey.jpg

Casey not a care in the world just indicted on first degree murder.
Cindy I'll show them. IMO

I know this sounds strange but you can almost see the evil in both of them. I can sense it too when I see their house.
JMO

[Dunlurken]

My personal opinion of the video. It shows the rage Casey is capable of. she is a spoiled brat, no doubt about that, but a murderer as well. JMO. Man, what a combination. JMO.

[margaritaville]

I also believe that she was going to do her parents in....if you can cold bloodedly murder the child you gave birth to...you are capable of doing anything.....She needs to rot in jail....

ITA.. I think that is where the web searches for neck breaking and house hold weapons come into play.

I think she was going to kill them make it look like a break-in.......
Tell the police that her daughter was kidnapped during the home invasion.

Then tada...Her and Amy get the house like she promised her......
moo

[Dunlurken]

I know this sounds strange but you can almost see the evil in both of them. I can sense it too when I see their house.
JMO

IMO, Cindy is not evil. She has been manipulated and controlled by a sociopath. It's a hard situation to deal with. Now we see the outcome. A dead child. No wonder Cindy went to a therapist. JMO.

[playnice]

Do you think Baez is being upfront with Casey that she has a slim chance in hell walking out those doors again or is he playing protector and telling "My girl" that she is safe and he will take care of her, nothing to worry about?

[ConchGirl]

She's a good case study, for sure. It's fascinating that she is not capable to realizing that it would be in her best interest to at least ACT interested in finding her Daughter. A true psycho! She doesn't understand normal emotions. Asking Geo why her Mom is crying!!!

Casey does not possess an aspect which most people have that make us legitimately human, and that is an actualized conscience - a voice, a feeling that guides us to do the right action, and not hurt our fellow human beings... It's all about her. She shows no concern about Caylee whatsoever. She always seems annoyed that the conversation always turns to Caylee and she wants it to be all about her. moo

[playnice]

ITA.. I think that is where the web searches for neck breaking and house hold weapons come into play.

I think she was going to kill them make it look like a break-in.......
Tell the police that her daughter was kidnapped during the home invasion.

Then tada...Her and Amy get the house like she promised her......
moo

Thats what I think too. She wouldnt need self defense to off a 2 year old.

[destiny1]

I also believe that she was going to do her parents in....if you can cold bloodedly murder the child you gave birth to...you are capable of doing anything.....She needs to rot in jail....

This sounds terrible I know, and smacks of a few infamous doctors and scholars from history, but people like casey need to be taken into a special facility and studied. Prison is one thing, but a government controlled facility where these kinds of anomalies(putting it mildly) could be studied without bleeding hearts complaining about the treatment of its subjects.

[margaritaville]

Casey does not possess an aspect which most people have that make us legitimately human, and that is an actualized conscience - a voice, a feeling that guides us to do the right action, and not hurt our fellow human beings... It's all about her. She shows no concern about Caylee whatsoever. She always seems annoyed that the conversation always turns to Caylee and she wants it to be all about her. moo


Which is probably the #1 reason why she killed her.
She felt everyone cared more about Caylee then her....
She couldn't have that!

[jakee]

In the video, Casey says they had an opportunity to get her out, but didn't....not exact words. When, what is she talking about?

Also, that whole thing on the birthday party and Cindy making chili. I agree with others, she was so jealous that she wasn't the center of attention. She really makes me sick. IMO

[nothingnew]

I just get sick of the Oh, George was so henpicked, well, poor George couldn't support his family, and was ok with his wife doing so, so if poor little George couldn't hold a job you can bet being henpecked would have been the least of his concerns, and his legs worked, but he would rather mooch off his wife and show Casey its ok to not have any good work ethic, but he just gets pass after pass when its obvious Casey is her Fathers daughter, oh I know, Cindy says to Casey, we are alike, well, its so far from the truth. I think the problem is Cindy gave birth to George junior, meaning Casey, and how does anyone know here George wasn't a wife beater, I sure have seen him lay his hands on female protesters, if anything Cindy has some weird variation of Stockholm Syndrome.
jmo


Well, I can pretty much agree with you up until the wife beater part-definitely not THAT wife anyway, imo. Main reason is I have watched him letting himself be led-the squeezed thigh, it was always him looking at cindy before he answered-like "did I do that right?" As for the george jr.? never heard it put that way but yes-absolutely!

[margaritaville]

Thats what I think too. She wouldnt need self defense to off a 2 year old.


Exactly....She was the easy one....

[Regina.Lampert]

WOW, is all I can say after watching the 45 minute version of the pathetic pity party the OC threw for herself. You nailed that one Msgator!

I absolutely marvelled at this:

"My entire life has been taken from me."

The juror's are going to just love that line when they hear it. imo.

We witnessed the barely controlled anger of the frustrated defendant. Once again, I fear what Caylee went thru, when no one was around except this monster. imo.

[Destini]

WOW, is all I can say after watching the 45 minute version of the pathetic pity party the OC threw for herself. You nailed that one Msgator!

I absolutely marvelled at this:

"My entire life has been taken from me."

The juror's are going to just love that line when they hear it. imo.

We witnessed the barely controlled anger of the frustrated defendant. Once again, I fear what Caylee went thru, when no one was around except this monster. imo.

I haven't seen the 45-minute version. What was in it that was different from the other one?

[margaritaville]

While not workin for so long..she sure had lots of time to figure all this out..I think you are right..
too bad, so sad, she had more time on her hands than brains..but a real life saver for C and G..


I am also very curious about GA gun...
I wonder when he got that and did Casey find out he had it prior to all of this?? Maybe that slowed her plan down.....


MOO

[destiny1]

Is it possible that casey got her plan all wrong when she murdered Caylee first? I would think that shw would want to keep Caylee alive as another source of attention and pity at the "loss" of her parents. One at a time, or otherwise. The poor single mommy who lost her parents and that little girl" as I have heard caylee referred to, would have been a perfect draw for the Casey Show.

[JHP]

IMO, Cindy is not evil. She has been manipulated and controlled by a sociopath. It's a hard situation to deal with. Now we see the outcome. A dead child. No wonder Cindy went to a therapist. JMO.

I think Cindy is narsissistic and that appears to be a bad combo. Narsissist raising a sociopath.
I wonder if Cindy did actually go to a therapist. I have doubts about that.
I had life experience with a very similar family. Their precious daughter desperatly need help. The Mom couldn't/wouldn't get her help because she KNEW her DD was messed up and a professional would tell her so.

I suspect the same of Cindy. I think the therapist just sounded good and gave Cindy an excuse for Casey not being home that month. All this is simply speculation.

[kitty1182]

Do you think Baez is being upfront with Casey that she has a slim chance in hell walking out those doors again or is he playing protector and telling "My girl" that she is safe and he will take care of her, nothing to worry about?

I think she thinks he will get her off..NOT!!
When that happens, it won't surprise me to hear things she will tell on him, even if it's lies...imo

[Mandysmom]

I thought it very telling that she gloated to mom that she does not get negative mail...as if mom deserved to but she did not and as if she were the priority and mom should focuas on being grateful that Casey gets nice mail.

And if Cindy said ..you don't know how hard it is..then Casey is like..what do you mean..THIS IS ABOUT ME!!!

Casey should be crushed and lethargic and drained..Instead she was sleeping .. ha ha while mom is sick and broken

Casey cares for no one but herself. She couldn't care less about her mother, father or child. It's sickening to watch her.

In one of the early jail interviews, she was the same way. George and Cindy were literally sick with worry and terror. Cindy told her that we have to get Caylee back and George was saying the same thing.

Casey is all about how she wants to be HOME when Caylee comes home, not in jail, not having to wait. It's not about Caylee or George & Cindy. It's all about her.

Always has been and always will be. I wonder if George and Cindy ever watch these tapes and see how she thought of nobody but herself.

[nothingnew]

This sounds terrible I know, and smacks of a few infamous doctors and scholars from history, but people like casey need to be taken into a special facility and studied. Prison is one thing, but a government controlled facility where these kinds of anomalies(putting it mildly) could be studied without bleeding hearts complaining about the treatment of its subjects.

The thing is she is not an anomaly at all. There are all kinds of people locked up now at mental hospitals being observed and written about now. And they have been for years but that hasn't slowed things down on the crime boards has it? cindy herself told Ryan that casey was a sociopath (allegedly)-so what gooto add her to some "special list"? She's just a really dumb (I at least will guess mentally slow) baby killer-her own baby even, but she's not the only one. She got caught and she spins an amazing web of make-believe but other than that she's just not so "special"-there are many, many, many like her-just maybe not looking so normal and being so dumb. she's not at all special-just yet another american psycho, I don't think we have a shortage of them.

[Dunlurken]

Do you think Baez is being upfront with Casey that she has a slim chance in hell walking out those doors again or is he playing protector and telling "My girl" that she is safe and he will take care of her, nothing to worry about?
No, I don't think he's being upfront with her. JMO.

[WillowInFlight]

I think she thinks he will get her off..NOT!!
When that happens, it won't surprise me to hear things she will tell on him, even if it's lies...imo

ITA, Right now she is blaming Caylee, Cindy and George for her being where she's at, that blame will shift to Baez in no time. Oh well.

[destiny1]

The thing is she is not an anomaly at all. There are all kinds of people locked up now at mental hospitals being observed and written about now. And they have been for years but that hasn't slowed things down on the crime boards has it? cindy herself told Ryan that casey was a sociopath (allegedly)-so what gooto add her to some "special list"? She's just a really dumb (I at least will guess mentally slow) baby killer-her own baby even, but she's not the only one. She got caught and she spins an amazing web of make-believe but other than that she's just not so "special"-there are many, many, many like her-just maybe not looking so normal and being so dumb. she's not at all special-just yet another american psycho, I don't think we have a shortage of them.

This is true, but there are constraints and laws that keep some studies and experiments from being done. Yes, there are lots of them, but studies that would make early detection a better probability would be a good thing.

[Regina.Lampert]

Jose's trying his hardest to find misconduct related to this particular visit because he knows how bad his client looks. He'll probably come up with 3 or 4 motions to try to keep this tape out, paralegals working overtime. Just because she talked to her parents against his wishes, if that's true, is not misconduct by the jail IMO. He can forbid her to talk all he wants, but if she does .... nothing he can do. Hopefully she went against his wishes in some way we don't even know about yet.

IIRC, this is the visit where george bites the head off one of the reporters for asking about a "dead" Caylee prior to the visit. During the visit cynthia alludes to this and casey anthony says she heard about it.

I'm wondering if the guard who went to wake sleeping beauty up told her her parents were there and then told her about the confrontation and urged her to see them.

Perhaps this is what baez is referring to when he whines about police misconduct?

ITA with you, this is not misconduct.

[Neffy]

After watching that whole cideo...I am totally convinced that Baez has forbidden her to have any visitors.....In a way I am glad....now she has nothing at all to look forward to and she can now see what her life will be....alone except for other people that are in the same boat.....

I as a parent and grandparent would have walked out of that visit before Casey threatened to hang up.....I would not be back because I wouldn't want to not because she didn't want to see me.....I would let her know that she now stands alone.....daughter or no daughter....I would NOT put up with that **** that she is handing out......I would grieve her away......JMOO

Good Post! ITA!

[Dunlurken]

I think Cindy is narsissistic and that appears to be a bad combo. Narsissist raising a sociopath.
I wonder if Cindy did actually go to a therapist. I have doubts about that.
I had life experience with a very similar family. Their precious daughter desperatly need help. The Mom couldn't/wouldn't get her help because she KNEW her DD was messed up and a professional would tell her so.

I suspect the same of Cindy. I think the therapist just sounded good and gave Cindy an excuse for Casey not being home that month. All this is simply speculation.

IIRC, the therapist told Cindy to try and get custody of Caylee. I don't have a link, but it was discussed during the beginning of the case. JMO.

For other posters: Where's the 45 minute version? I only saw the 4 minute version, which was enough for me. TIA.

[WillowInFlight]

If we as a group find out nothing else, we have to find out who the semi stranger was that had dinner with Cindy and George on Caylee's birthday.

[Barbara fl.]

Three guesses where she learned that manipulative tactic from. Remember that interview Cindy did with Megan Kelly on Fox news?

When the interview did not go exactly the way Cindy wanted it to, she threatened to hang up. Megan did not backoff, Cindy hungup in her face and Megan proceeded to hammer Cindy right into the ground, even saying the media was showing more concern for Caylee than her family was.


You are right...but it could be that Cindy picked up that trait from Casey....seeing as it worked with her she might have thought it would work on someone else.....

[destiny1]

Three guesses where she learned that manipulative tactic from. Remember that interview Cindy did with Megan Kelly on Fox news?

When the interview did not go exactly the way Cindy wanted it to, she threatened to hang up. Megan did not backoff, Cindy hungup in her face and Megan proceeded to hammer Cindy right into the ground, even saying the media was showing more concern for Caylee than her family was.

Cindy and george are using this same tactic with LE.

I suppose it is a family tradition.

[Elle]

Good Morning.


Have any of you ever seen such a disgusting display pf power of a 'child" over her parents? Casey has the anthonys wrapped around her little finger. They are practically bowing down to her. Grateful to see her.

Keep in mind, this is before the Grand Jury and the discovery of Caylees remains.

If Cindy was this manipulated by Casey then, I have to say that some kind of a major change has taken place in her because the Nasty Obnoxious Cindy that we see now is not what I saw in that video.

I'm going to have to rethink this relationship. Originally, I thought that they all had long lived dirty little secrets that they were holding over each other. Now I am wondering if casey hasn't been driving that anthony bus all along. But Why?

I think Casey has been at the helm for quite sometime.
A relative of mine was severely emotionally abused by her husband, he never physically hurt her, but made her fully aware that he could and that she should be grateful to him that he didn't. He told her the reason he did not was because he loved her, that she was lucky. She was belittled, stripped of her self worth and dignity. He controlled her completely. She defended him, she excused him, refused to leave him. When confronted, she became enraged and defended him all the more. Some people in my family stopped contact with her, shaking their heads at her refusal to stand up for herself.

That is what I see when Cindy defends Casey. I see a woman who on the surface appears to control, but underneath I believe is a woman who feels weak, powerless, beaten down and angry at herself, and when confronted about actions of her abuser become her staunchest supporter.

Abuse is insidious.

and no, I do not condone lying and I do not condone breaking the law, and it frustrates me to no end to see her support of Casey. I am not excusing or justifying, merely trying to understand.
moo, imo

[no1what]

Quote:
Originally Posted by no1what
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The reason Casey said that Caylee is ok and she is being taken care of is because she knows she's dead and is in the hands of God and envisions the Angels taking care of her. hint she's in a better place sort of thing.


I don't agree, I don't think Casey gives 2 hoots where Caylee is now.
I say that because when anyone mentions Caylee she turns it back to herself immediately.


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I'm not implying that Casey gives a hoot. I'm just saying there is a little truth into every statement Casey makes.

i.e. "in my gut Caylee is close to home" and she was
i.e. "i know that Caylee is being taken care of" and she is because she's in heaven.

IMO Casey thinks she is being clever in making these type of statements because she thinks she's not lying (she's being deceitful) but at the same time no one knows what she is really referring too. I can almost feel her snickering about the comments.

[Barbara fl.]

If we as a group find out nothing else, we have to find out who the semi stranger was that had dinner with Cindy and George on Caylee's birthday.


Oh, that's just being nosey....:glare:


I'd like to know also......could have been a news man....:cool:

[Mandysmom]

Oh, she probably knew I coulnd't watch last night and decided to save it for me.:tongueside:
Good morning!
I'm gonna hafta wait until Nancy plays it again tonight. I'm interested in GA. I think he's been a little "off" during this entire thing. He seems to dote on Casey, but maybe just to get Cindy's goat. He's just creepy to me. I dunno- nothing solid. HIS little temper tantrum when he shouts "The body in the car... that's not my grandaughter!" He sounded like a 2 y.o.. And that "Hand" thing... eeewww...
I can totally understand George saying what he did at that time.

He had to make himself believe it wasn't Caylee but I think he did know it was deep in his heart. It's always been very sad for me to watch George because I believe he wanted to do the right thing, but doesn't know quite how to go about it.

I don't know, maybe it's just me. :sad:

[destiny1]

If we as a group find out nothing else, we have to find out who the semi stranger was that had dinner with Cindy and George on Caylee's birthday.

I don't have any ideas, but from caseys reaction, she seemed to know exactly of whom they were speaking. Made her jealous too.

[WillowInFlight]

If you notice on the tape, while Casey was having her temper tantrum, Cindy hardly backed down, it was George that babied her and tried to get her to calm down.

[daHawg]

IIRC, this is the visit where george bites the head off one of the reporters for asking about a "dead" Caylee prior to the visit. During the visit cynthia alludes to this and casey anthony says she heard about it.

I'm wondering if the guard who went to wake sleeping beauty up told her her parents were there and then told her about the confrontation and urged her to see them.

Perhaps this is what baez is referring to when he whines about police misconduct?

ITA with you, this is not misconduct.

Or could it be that Baez did not want the one on one which I think is the case since it didn't happen, and George telling Casey that there are things she can do on her end to make it happen faster by going directly to the jail staff and requesting it herself. That whole exchange with George saying that there are people that can make it happen. That could possibly be what Baez is fishing for but IMO it ain't gonna stick and Casey even said that she did ask and got no where.

[Dunlurken]

ITA, Right now she is blaming Caylee, Cindy and George for her being where she's at, that blame will shift to Baez in no time. Oh well.

I'm pretty sure we have an ineffective counsel charge coming down the road. Probably from Lee, Cindy or George.

Here's something I keep thinking about. I find it "odd" that neither George, Cindy or Lee have gone to see Casey since the remains were found. IMO, they know she did it, and actually want nothing more to do with her.

At first I thought it was because Baez said don't come because you will be taped. But, if I thought my daughter was innocent, I would be in the jail visiting her in a NY minute. JMO.

[ConchGirl]

I am also very curious about GA gun...
I wonder when he got that and did Casey find out he had it prior to all of this?? Maybe that slowed her plan down.....


MOO

Casey released on 8/21. George ordered the gun on 8/29. George picked up gun on 9/4. LE took the gun on 9/6. I wonder if they ever gave it back to him?

[Neffy]

I don't have any ideas, but from caseys reaction, she seemed to know exactly of whom they were speaking. Made her jealous too.

A few posters were also saying this last night. I don't see it at all.
:shrug:

[WillowInFlight]

Oh, that's just being nosey....:glare:


I'd like to know also......could have been a news man....:cool:

Me, nosy??:sneaky:

Could be but they it sounded like they were talking in code, I don't thinks so.

[cassidy]

If we as a group find out nothing else, we have to find out who the semi stranger was that had dinner with Cindy and George on Caylee's birthday.


No kidding! These people are talking about death threats and all that, yet they let a complete stranger in the house? I don't think so!

JMO

[margaritaville]

IIRC, the therapist told Cindy to try and get custody of Caylee. I don't have a link, but it was discussed during the beginning of the case. JMO.

For other posters: Where's the 45 minute version? I only saw the 4 minute version, which was enough for me. TIA.

Fox 35 Video (better video? 48 minutes?)
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/My...1&locale=EN-US

[marshmallow]

Or could it be that Baez did not want the one on one which I think is the case since it didn't happen, and George telling Casey that there are things she can do on her end to make it happen faster by going directly to the jail staff and requesting it herself. That whole exchange with George saying that there are people that can make it happen. That could possibly be what Baez is fishing for but IMO it ain't gonna stick and Casey even said that she did ask and got no where.


but she doesn't say who she asked and got nowhere with.

[Dunlurken]

If we as a group find out nothing else, we have to find out who the semi stranger was that had dinner with Cindy and George on Caylee's birthday.

I missed this one. Tell me more. JMO.

[WillowInFlight]

A few posters were also saying this last night. I don't see it at all.
:shrug:

I didn't see her as jealous, I did find it strange that she started quoting the bible, that whole segment was weird.

[margaritaville]

Casey released on 8/21. George ordered the gun on 8/29. George picked up gun on 9/4. LE took the gun on 9/6. I wonder if they ever gave it back to him?

Maybe he was afraid of her at that point?

[Barbara fl.]

If you notice on the tape, while Casey was having her temper tantrum, Cindy hardly backed down, it was George that babied her and tried to get her to calm down.

Yes I noticed that also.....

For some reason everytime I go to respond to a post my computer goes down and it takes forever to come back up.....

But, I too noticed that...Cindy wanted answers and George was content with not getting any....could be George knew the answer and didn't want Cindy to conclude the worst.....JMO

[kitty1182]

Me, nosy??:sneaky:

Could be but they it sounded like they were talking in code, I don't thinks so.

Wasn't there a man who prayed outside their home sometimes? Maybe he was invited in for supper..I can't think of anyone else..:confused:

[margaritaville]

If we as a group find out nothing else, we have to find out who the semi stranger was that had dinner with Cindy and George on Caylee's birthday.


Oh I totally agree.......

[Neffy]

Good for Megan for telling it like it is. :thumbsup:

:seeya:

She is the only public person who had the guts to say it as it is.

This whole family wants nothing to do with being confronted and anything in truth.

[Barbara fl.]

I didn't see her as jealous, I did find it strange that she started quoting the bible, that whole segment was weird.


Thats what they do in prison...they are given a bible and alot of times it makes the person get religion....until they are released and they lose it again.....seeing as Casey is not getting released in the near future maybe it will stick.....just a guess of course....:bored:

[Dunlurken]

Yes I noticed that also.....

For some reason everytime I go to respond to a post my computer goes down and it takes forever to come back up.....

But, I too noticed that...Cindy wanted answers and George was content with not getting any....could be George knew the answer and didn't want Cindy to conclude the worst.....JMO

Why does Casey keep saying I don't want to talk to you Mom, I want to talk to Dad? Because Cindy doesn't take the carp like George did. JMO. (I have such mixed emotions about Cindy.) JMO.

[margaritaville]

I didn't see her as jealous, I did find it strange that she started quoting the bible, that whole segment was weird.


I think that was just proof that she was reading the bible...
Considering her parents bought her one and then she couldn't get it...

moo

[jakee]

If we as a group find out nothing else, we have to find out who the semi stranger was that had dinner with Cindy and George on Caylee's birthday.

Maybe it was that guy who seemed to be a supporter of Casey outside the Anthony home, and later had a meltdown and was wearing those white sunglasses. Anyone remember that person?

[WillowInFlight]

but she doesn't say who she asked and got nowhere with.

Well we do know sent sent a note to the sheriff, strange how George said he could set it that the meeting would not be recorded, that it would be private and no one would ever know what they talked about, That must be why Baez stepped in.

[ConchGirl]

IIRC, this is the visit where george bites the head off one of the reporters for asking about a "dead" Caylee prior to the visit. During the visit cynthia alludes to this and casey anthony says she heard about it.

I'm wondering if the guard who went to wake sleeping beauty up told her her parents were there and then told her about the confrontation and urged her to see them.

Perhaps this is what baez is referring to when he whines about police misconduct?

ITA with you, this is not misconduct.

This is before the jailhouse video.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7205820&version=1&locale=EN-US

[SavannahStar]

I just want her in general pop so she can disabuse herself of the notion that she's 'special', and live like the rest of the criminals.

QUESTION TO SAVANNAH: I know you are now convinced of Casey's guilt. During this latest video, I do feel that Cindy and George were desperate to play to Casey's wants in order to get information about Caylee's whereabouts, because they still had hope (however faint) that she was alive.
But now that they have confirmation of her death and the location of her discarded corpse, what are your thoughts on G&C's continued protestations of their daughter's innocence (per the email to Lois)? I can't muster too much sympathy for them anymore when their outrage isn't pouring out about Caylee's death, but instead Casey's innocence. What are you feeling about them now?


I started to answer this earlier but got booted off. Sorry.

First off, let me set the record straight on one thing. I do not just "now" believe she is guilty. I always did from very early on. I was not, however, 100% convinced until fairly recently that it was murder as opposed to an accidental death. My feelings for Casey have never been very sympathetic. Even IF it were an accidental death, her subsequent cover-up and actions made me very angry and thus wanting to see her punished to the degree she would be if it were premeditated murder.

As to Cindy. The only evidence we've seen (and we haven't really "seen" it) that she believes in Casey's innocence is the alleged Lois email. I have a few thoughts on that. #1, don't know it's true, for fact. #2, if Cindy said that to Lois, I don't think she necessarily believes it. I think the whole bit with Cindy is she doesn't want to admit PUBLICLY or to anyone, what she believes. I think she knows Caylee was killed by Casey. But this is where I differ from most on here: I don't need or want or expect her to come out and state to us that she knows Casey killed Caylee. I think that is her own personal and private hell right now and probably will be for some time.

I'm still very sympathetic to Cindy and George. Sure, people say "they KNEW".......well I think they "knew" but chose to NOT "know." It was just too difficult to face.

I felt really, really bad for Cindy in that Aug. 14 video. She looks and sounds totally beaten and despairing.

IMO.

[nothingnew]

This is true, but there are constraints and laws that keep some studies and experiments from being done. Yes, there are lots of them, but studies that would make early detection a better probability would be a good thing.

no, I get that (well, kind of I get that) but then what? There are already signs to look for in children and their family dynamics but how often will a parent want to admit that maybe johnny needs to be watched? When I have seen it it's only because there are other kids in the house that need protecting, and even then those kids learn to take care of themselves and protect the family because that is how it's always been. I think no matter what society will have to rely on the people raising children to do the right thing and you just cannot make people do the right thing. hope that makes sense. i know there are good parents but I also see a lot of moms attached to their cell or computer endlessly-not all moms but there's quite a few out there that I see.

[Barbara fl.]

This sounds terrible I know, and smacks of a few infamous doctors and scholars from history, but people like casey need to be taken into a special facility and studied. Prison is one thing, but a government controlled facility where these kinds of anomalies(putting it mildly) could be studied without bleeding hearts complaining about the treatment of its subjects.



I'd like to study her also.......if I can disect her first.....

[WillowInFlight]

Maybe it was that guy who seemed to be a supporter of Casey outside the Anthony home, and later had a meltdown and was wearing those white sunglasses. Anyone remember that person?

I don't, but George said something to the effect that "we got to know him better" tells me they met before. and Casey said "he appreciated more than you know" How does she know?

[nothingnew]

If we as a group find out nothing else, we have to find out who the semi stranger was that had dinner with Cindy and George on Caylee's birthday.

My best guess would be the pastor from that neighborhood church.

[JHP]

IIRC, the therapist told Cindy to try and get custody of Caylee. I don't have a link, but it was discussed during the beginning of the case. JMO.

For other posters: Where's the 45 minute version? I only saw the 4 minute version, which was enough for me. TIA.

But didn't the therapist info come from Cindy? At this point I'm not sure Cindy is being truthful.

I recall it also but as the months have passed I think it just goes with the story.
JMO

[happygert]

I don't, but George said something to the effect that "we got to know him better" tells me they met before. and Casey said "he appreciated more than you know" How does she know?

I'd say there's more to that story too.....:confused:

[destiny1]

I didn't see her as jealous, I did find it strange that she started quoting the bible, that whole segment was weird.

Usually when someone like Casey is finally caught and backed literally into a corner they find Jesus. No control, so they go to the only thing that in their minds is bigger than themselves.

I wonder if it is like that with other cultures or religions. Different forum.

[Destini]

I don't have any ideas, but from caseys reaction, she seemed to know exactly of whom they were speaking. Made her jealous too.

Whoever it was, George conveniently didn't tell Casey about this extra guest until Cindy reminded him. Almost like he didn't want Casey to know about this person but knew that Cindy would tell her. Maybe he really forgot, I don't know.

I'm curious who it was, too. Who was so special, and alone supposedly, that they would be included in a party for Caylee? George, Cindy, Lee, Mallory and ......

[WillowInFlight]

Thats what they do in prison...they are given a bible and alot of times it makes the person get religion....until they are released and they lose it again.....seeing as Casey is not getting released in the near future maybe it will stick.....just a guess of course....:bored:

I asked this last night, what was the name of the woman that sent Casey a book, I couldn't make it out, and do we know the name of the book?

[Dunlurken]

I think the whole bit with Cindy is she doesn't want to admit PUBLICLY or to anyone, what she believes. I think she knows Caylee was killed by Casey. But this is where I differ from most on here: I don't need or want or expect her to come out and state to us that she knows Casey killed Caylee. I think that is her own personal and private hell right now and probably will be for some time.

I'm still very sympathetic to Cindy and George. Sure, people say "they KNEW".......well I think they "knew" but chose to NOT "know." It was just too difficult to face.

I felt really, really bad for Cindy in that Aug. 14 video. She looks and sounds totally beaten and despairing.

IMO.

snipped to address: Good points. Cindy knows now that Casey lied about everything. Why she didn't know before is beyond me. JMO.

[Regina.Lampert]

Mornin Regina..I am countin on y'all to keep relayin what was on the video's..for some reason I click on the link and it comes up with the main page and photos..but I can't get the video to play..
..and I love how you will repeat what she said..and immediately give your observations..
thank you all..:thumbsup:

Hiya sisterbee, so nice to have you here with us. Did you try all the links, there are several. You really have to watch this, we can attempt to tell you how the dynamics were but casey anthony is so evil it's hard to describe her adequately.

I agree with you, I think at one point this evil monster thought about murdering one or both of her parents.

[WillowInFlight]

Usually when someone like Casey is finally caught and backed literally into a corner they find Jesus. No control, so they go to the only thing that in their minds is bigger than themselves.

I wonder if it is like that with other cultures or religions. Different forum.

destiny I love ya to death, but do you really think Casey found something or someone she considers bigger than herself?

[Dunlurken]

Mixed emotions?

Guess Cindy's vile actions are ok with you too? yuck

Cindy is still a mother. No her actions weren't okay with me. But when she finally realized Caylee is dead, she quickly left the spotlight. JMO.

She knows now. She still had HOPE before. JMO.

[Neffy]

Most excellent!! Let me at her, I'd expose her even more for what she is. :cursing:

Casey is having a typical tantrum. Playing each person against the other to make them argue with each other about defending Casey.

She's playing up to George to get Cindy & Lee to back down off of her. George's ego with his thank you and I appreciate you chose me to "confide in" took the bait unquestionably.

[breezie]

I definitely don't think it was an oversight but I can see why Baez wouldn't want it out there. The rage on Casey's face alone is reason enough for him to try to keep it from being released.

Since Cindy was the family's support, Casey might have not wanted Cindy to take him back. It was probably easier having only one parent to manipulate instead of two. IIRC, Casey complained to a friend that George was always trying to tell her how to behave. I can't imagine she was receptive to that. MOO.

Isn't this the one that Baez went to court to fight release. And then the State and/or LE decided to withhold for investigative reasons way back when?

Now Baez wanted it in discovery, so it's released. Bad move, Baez. Shows his client as what she is.

[daHawg]

but she doesn't say who she asked and got nowhere with.

Well now thinking about that I really don't think she did. IMO.

[WillowInFlight]

snipped to address: Good points. Cindy knows now that Casey lied about everything. Why she didn't know before is beyond me. JMO.

She did know IMO

[daHawg]

Casey is having a typical tantrum. Playing each person against the other to make them argue with each other about defending Casey.

She's playing up to George to get Cindy & Lee to back down off of her. George's ego with his thank you and I appreciate you chose me to "confide in" took the bait unquestionably.ITA, hook, line and sinker.

[WillowInFlight]

Cindy is still a mother. No her actions weren't okay with me. But when she finally realized Caylee is dead, she quickly left the spotlight. JMO.

She knows now. She still had HOPE before. JMO.

Cindy didn't leave the spot light, she's still shooting vile emails.

[Dunlurken]

Hiya sisterbee, so nice to have you here with us. Did you try all the links, there are several. You really have to watch this, we can attempt to tell you how the dynamics were but casey anthony is so evil it's hard to describe her adequately.

I agree with you, I think at one point this evil monster thought about murdering one or both of her parents.

When/why did George buy a gun? Was he afraid of Casey?

[Neffy]

Isn't this the one that Baez went to court to fight release. And then the State and/or LE decided to withhold for investigative reasons way back when?

Now Baez wanted it in discovery, so it's released. Bad move, Baez. Shows his client as what she is.


I couldn't figure this out either.

Can't Baez request it from the Jail being her attorney. Only the state gets this?

[margaritaville]

I was out last night. Someone sent Casey a book? Does Casey have a list like Scott Peterson did?

I'd buy her a one way ticket to hell. Anyone want to chip in?

Oh i think she is almost there.......save your money, she found the path that leads straight there.............moo

[Dunlurken]

Cindy didn't leave the spot light, she's still shooting vile emails.

Do you remember when the last one was? There is just so much stuff to keep up with. JMO.

[num1barb]

OK, i watched the visit and I wonder how g & c can keep their cool when talking to her...she talks in circles....

I'm completely out of the loop.

My attorney is keeping me in the loop on everything that's going on.

Ummm....ok.

So is she in the loop or not? LOL

And ITA with the posters earlier who commented on george calling her "beautiful" and "gorgeous". creepy. MOO

[destiny1]

destiny I love ya to death, but do you really think Casey found something or someone she considers bigger than herself?

I think she might, but keep in mind, she will try to manipulate god and make deals with him as well.

[WillowInFlight]

Yes I noticed that also.....

For some reason everytime I go to respond to a post my computer goes down and it takes forever to come back up.....

But, I too noticed that...Cindy wanted answers and George was content with not getting any....could be George knew the answer and didn't want Cindy to conclude the worst.....JMO

Barb, I think it was like that for a long time in that house, I think Cindy and Casey fought on a daily basis and all George wanted was content, hopefully for the sake of Caylee, but IMO once those women got started I don't see either one backing down from the other.

[desmom]

IIRC, this is the visit where george bites the head off one of the reporters for asking about a "dead" Caylee prior to the visit. During the visit cynthia alludes to this and casey anthony says she heard about it.

I'm wondering if the guard who went to wake sleeping beauty up told her her parents were there and then told her about the confrontation and urged her to see them.

Perhaps this is what baez is referring to when he whines about police misconduct?

ITA with you, this is not misconduct.

Playing catch up....

George & Cindy before visit with Casey on August 14 http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7205820&version=1&locale=EN-US

George & Cindy after visit with Casey on August 14 http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7207005&version=1&locale=EN-US

[Barbara fl.]

I asked this last night, what was the name of the woman that sent Casey a book, I couldn't make it out, and do we know the name of the book?


I don't know the name of the book....but the one that was given to Scott was something like " purpose of life" or something to that affect it was also given to the lady that turned in the man who murdered the judge and other people in court....she showed it too him while he held her hostage......

If thats not the book, maybe someone should give her it....maybe it will make her talk......(wishful thinking).....

[happygert]

Casey is having a typical tantrum. Playing each person against the other to make them argue with each other about defending Casey.

She's playing up to George to get Cindy & Lee to back down off of her. George's ego with his thank you and I appreciate you chose me to "confide in" took the bait unquestionably.

She's playing one against the other to be center of attention...Oh look dad is sticking up for me...Moms mad because I want to talk to dad..See mom has dad to lean on . Well not if I pizz them off.. She wanted control.. What do you think the topic of convesation is going to be on way home? casey not wanting to talk to cindy..

[daHawg]

Do you remember when the last one was? There is just so much stuff to keep up with. JMO.
This was from Jan 13th and the email was from 3 days prior. Cindy hasn't changed her tune at all.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news

In the e-mail obtained by Local 6 News, Cindy Anthony wrote to Lois Peter, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven. She loved her deeply."

[Dunlurken]

OK, i watched the visit and I wonder how g & c can keep their cool when talking to her...she talks in circles....

I'm completely out of the loop.

My attorney is keeping me in the loop on everything that's going on.

Ummm....ok.

So is she in the loop or not? LOL

And ITA with the posters earlier who commented on george calling her "beautiful" and "gorgeous". creepy. MOO
Here's something I don't get either. For a 22 year old, Casey is very articulate. Her wording and speech patterns are extremely adult-like, except she acts like a child. If my 30 year old daughter were in jail, she would not speak so properly.... if you get my drift.

I hope I stated that right. LOL.

[WillowInFlight]

I think she might, but keep in mind, she will try to manipulate god and make deals with him as well.

I'd like to know how thats working for her as little angel Caylee is sitting on his right side looking down.

[margaritaville]

OK, i watched the visit and I wonder how g & c can keep their cool when talking to her...she talks in circles....

I'm completely out of the loop.

My attorney is keeping me in the loop on everything that's going on.

Ummm....ok.

So is she in the loop or not? LOL

And ITA with the posters earlier who commented on george calling her "beautiful" and "gorgeous". creepy. MOO

That is creepy......I wonder if he always did that or is that something new?

Maybe that is his way of saying this is where you belong, so you look beautiful, gorgeous.....Or he thinks complements will get him answers?
Not sure but it is odd.............MOO

[Neffy]

What an excellent analysis of the family dynanmics! I believe you are exactly right. From that, we can extrapolate a coherent explanation for all their bizarre behaviors.

As for little Caylee, it is not hard to imagine having witnessed the drama, screaming, yelling, cursing and tantrums was starting to throw a few herself (normal for her age) however I do not see Casey as dealing with it as a mature parent. Most likely Casey's "terrible two's" came out in herself coupled with her murderous rage.

JMO


We all know what will work with each of our parents should we want something or want to confide in them. Who to talk to best about certain things in ones life.

The difference is typically it's for help on something. To get a resolution.

Casey does it to hide behind what she does wrong and plays each of them to come to her defense or to allow her to get her way.

[kitty1182]

I think she might, but keep in mind, she will try to manipulate god and make deals with him as well.

Yeah, but she won't be able to fool Him....lol

[WillowInFlight]

Do you remember when the last one was? There is just so much stuff to keep up with. JMO.

Last week ...........

[num1barb]

destiny I love ya to death, but do you really think Casey found something or someone she considers bigger than herself?


I'm not destiny, but I want to respond to this. Having a brother who spent the majority of his teen years and young adulthood in a variety of youth detention centers, jail and ultimately prison I can tell you that there are LOTS of prisoners who "find God" while they are incarcerated, only to "lose" him once they are out.

My mother used to fall for his "I've changed, I've found God" routine EVERY time he was incarcerated. The rest of the family saw right through him, but she never did. He knew that if he could convince her that he'd changed, she would let him back into the family home.

I equate cindy's denial of casey's wrongdoing with my mother's continual insistance that my brother had indeed changed.

And I don't believe for a MINUTE that casey has "found God". Not for a minute.

MOO

[desmom]

Wasn't there a man who prayed outside their home sometimes? Maybe he was invited in for supper..I can't think of anyone else..:confused:

I mentioned him last night. He had a Caylee is Alive poster and in a couple of the late night news broadcasts you could see him in the background. I think he was interviewed once. jmo

[Snoopy50]

I'd like to study her also.......if I can disect her first.....

Frankly I think she would be a great study. This type of evil, IMO is not learned, it is BORN. Granted. the Anthony's were not good parents, but they were presented with a child who was not the garden variety normal.
Seeing Casey now, and reading about how she has been much of her life, I doubt that anything short of locking her away in an institution, could have corrected her evilness. This is just my opinion.

[Barbara fl.]

Barb, I think it was like that for a long time in that house, I think Cindy and Casey fought on a daily basis and all George wanted was content, hopefully for the sake of Caylee, but IMO once those women got started I don't see either one backing down from the other.


Oh i'm sure there was probably a daily fight goning on in that house....but i'm pretty sure Casey won them all.....Casey is hatefull....and would probably leave everytime she was questioned about something.....could also be why Cindy and George never knew anything about Zenaida, could also be why she never had to prove that she had a job.....or where she was going and who Caylee was with......Parents probably didn't want to get into it with her......

OH, if she were my daughter......never would have happened.....:cursing:

[n/t]

I don't have any ideas, but from caseys reaction, she seemed to know exactly of whom they were speaking. Made her jealous too.

The bondsman? Rob Dick? Wasn't she out on bail shortly after this tape?

[kitty1182]

I don't know the name of the book....but the one that was given to Scott was something like " purpose of life" or something to that affect it was also given to the lady that turned in the man who murdered the judge and other people in court....she showed it too him while he held her hostage......

If thats not the book, maybe someone should give her it....maybe it will make her talk......(wishful thinking).....

The Purpose Driven Life? Is that the one you are thinking of?

[Neffy]

Here's something I don't get either. For a 22 year old, Casey is very articulate. Her wording and speech patterns are extremely adult-like, except she acts like a child. If my 30 year old daughter were in jail, she would not speak so properly.... if you get my drift.

I hope I stated that right. LOL.


I don't think she's articulate at all. She used the same words over and over. Her vocabulary is limited in these same words.

[Dunlurken]

This was from Jan 13th and the email was from 3 days prior. Cindy hasn't changed her tune at all.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html?rss=orlpn&psp=news

In the e-mail obtained by Local 6 News, Cindy Anthony wrote to Lois Peter, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven. She loved her deeply."

Thank you for the link. I'm going to add a bit more from your link. Is Lois Dakota's grandma?

"In the e-mail obtained by Local 6 News, Cindy Anthony wrote to Lois Peter, "As for my daughter, she never hurt Caylee and that will be proven. She loved her deeply."

In August, Peter's 12-year-old granddaughter hosted a candlelight vigil for Caylee in St. Cloud while Casey Anthony was home on bond. Casey Anthony sent the girl a bracelet, a letter and some e-mails, which prompted Peter to unsuccessfully seek a restraining order against Cindy Anthony, who continued to correspond with the girl after Casey Anthony returned to jail.

In recent days, Cindy Anthony and Peter have exchanged biting e-mails, with Cindy Anthony telling Peter that she would not be invited to Caylee's funeral.

Peter responded in an e-mail, saying, "I would not want my granddaughter around a person that condones her daughter killing her own child. At least I know where mine is."

JMO. (Are we still limited to the one paragraph rule when quoting links?)

[WillowInFlight]

I mentioned him last night. He had a Caylee is Alive poster and in a couple of the late night news broadcasts you could see him in the background. I think he was interviewed once. jmo
Could be, he was probably an honest believer, I wonder if they have had any further contact with him.

[kitty1182]

Could be, he was probably an honest believer, I wonder if they have had any further contact with him.

I'm thinking he may be the one who was invited in...

[trich]

I have to admit that I have not watched the entire video ...it made me so mad halfway through I quit and decided to come back to it later on.
Well I haven't as of yet but I would like to ask a question:
Baez kept saying he wanted this visit released because of some kind of misconduct on behalf of the jail employees .....:shrug:
I did not , from what I saw, see any misconduct.....did I miss something or was he blowing smoke again?
Bet he wished he had not asked for the video now though.
I did say in a post earlier that I hope the jury gets to see this
and watches it just before they deliberate or maybe someone will ask for it while they are deliberating.
It reaffirms how self centered and and selfserving Casey truely is.
If she was so frustrated about the situation and really concerned with Caylee she would have been talking about her daughter instead of herself.
Also did anyone hear why it was stated that Casey was upset/mad with Baez about the last court appearance?
Was she mad he did not have her come right off or that the he could not prevent the judge from ordering her to appear?

[WillowInFlight]

I don't think she's articulate at all. She used the same words over and over. Her vocabulary is limited in these same words.

Absolutely..............

[Dunlurken]

Sorry excuse of a mother and grand mother is what she is.

What case are you not following? Incorrect daily:

Were not ok with you? What about since? She is still in the spotlight. She didn't quickly leave the spot light. She knew very early on Casey killed Caylee. She didn't have hope. Hello!! lying and hindering the investigation is HOPE to you?

:rolleyes:

I think she was/is in denial. WHEN she buries Caylee, maybe the cold hard facts will emerge. See, here's the dichotomy Cindy is living with, IMO.

She has a daughter in jail, charged with murdering her beloved Caylee. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. JMO.

And I do think Casey is pretty articulate, but I agree it's almost as if by rote. JMO.

[WillowInFlight]

I have to admit that I have not watched the entire video ...it made me so mad halfway through I quit and decided to come back to it later on.
Well I haven't as of yet but I would like to ask a question:
Baez kept saying he wanted this visit released because of some kind of misconduct on behalf of the jail employees .....:shrug:
I did not , from what I saw, see any misconduct.....did I miss something or was he blowing smoke again?
Bet he wished he had not asked for the video now though.
I did say in a post earlier that I hope the jury gets to see this
and watches it just before they deliberate or maybe someone will ask for it while they are deliberating.
It reaffirms how self centered and and selfserving Casey truely is.
If she was so frustrated about the situation and really concerned with Caylee she would have been talking about her daughter instead of herself.
Also did anyone hear why it was stated that Casey was upset/mad with Baez about the last court appearance?
Was she mad he did not have her come right off or that the he could not prevent the judge from ordering her to appear?

We touched on this last night, and it may be that George was telling Casey that he could arrange with LE for an unmonitored visit for just the two of them, where they could talk.

[margaritaville]

Ok, I'll buy a ticket to the caribbean instead.

I really hope they put the DP on the table.


Oh me too......I was pizzed when they took it off the table...

[n/t]

I don't think she's articulate at all. She used the same words over and over. Her vocabulary is limited in these same words.

I agree. I laughed when she said "she deliberated". I guess she's been reading Law for dummies. :biggrin:

[Neffy]

That is creepy......I wonder if he always did that or is that something new?

Maybe that is his way of saying this is where you belong, so you look beautiful, gorgeous.....Or he thinks complements will get him answers?
Not sure but it is odd.............MOO


What the heck "loop" is she talking about. Her network of friends that don't know Zanny? There is no loop to be in regarding Zanny. There is no "hangout" that Zanny is in that anyone will speak of

[ConchGirl]

OK, i watched the visit and I wonder how g & c can keep their cool when talking to her...she talks in circles....

I'm completely out of the loop.

My attorney is keeping me in the loop on everything that's going on.

Ummm....ok.

So is she in the loop or not? LOL

And ITA with the posters earlier who commented on george calling her "beautiful" and "gorgeous". creepy. MOO

Bold is mine. I never called my daughters beautiful or gorgeous but I do call my dog gorgeous. :scared: