Tuesday January 13th, Part III

[?noanswer]

New thread reading for posting. JMO

[desmom]

*Caylee* has 87 candles from 3 countries

:rose: http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle :rose:

Thank you for the new thread ?NoAnswer.

[happygert]

Thanks for thread ..

[happygert]

Someone posted on last thread that everyone connected to this case would need Attorneys and the Attorneys would need attorneys.. Do they have that many attorneys?

[Janz]

Thanks for the candle link, blu.

[?noanswer]

I read on another site that the house that Hoover taped DC searching had been owned by the same people for 18 years. Then then just upped and went to Puerto Rico about a year ago. All the furniture and everything is still there. Wonder if KC could have stayed there the times she was suppposed to be working. JMO

[MrsHudson]

It seems the legal experts think the biggest problem for the prosecution is that the defense will raise questions that someone could have placed Caylee's body at the dump site while Casey was in jail. I don't understand how that is even remotely credible.

I hear it said the defense does not have to prove anything but if I was on the jury I would need to hear a backstory on that. Who could have done it, how, when and why? The mere fact that someone (perhaps Kronk) COULD HAVE planted the body does not mean much to me. I would need proof that someone DID plant the body.

Am I wrong here? :confused:

[CelticDawn]

Someone posted on last thread that everyone connected to this case would need Attorneys and the Attorneys would need attorneys.. Do they have that many attorneys?

the ones we've seen so far are recyclable...

[Janz]

It seems the legal experts think the biggest problem for the prosecution is that the defense will raise questions that someone could have placed Caylee's body at the dump site while Casey was in jail. I don't understand how that is even remotely credible.

I hear it said the defense does not have to prove anything but if I was on the jury I would need to hear a backstory on that. Who could have done it, how, when and why? The mere fact that someone (perhaps Kronk) COULD HAVE planted the body does not mean much to me. I would need proof that someone DID plant the body.

Am I wrong here? :confused:

No, I don`t think you are wrong MrsHudson. This woman not only lied, she didn`t report her child missing for 31 days. The rest is all smoke and mirrors.

[PROPROS]

I read on another site that the house that Hoover taped DC searching had been owned by the same people for 18 years. Then then just upped and went to Puerto Rico about a year ago. All the furniture and everything is still there. Wonder if KC could have stayed there the times she was suppposed to be working. JMOWouldn't you just know that this house was owned by a family named Gonzales and they went to Puerto Rico...Can this case get any stranger!mo:rolleyes:

[playnice]

Wouldn't you just know that this house was owned by a family named Gonzales and they went to Puerto Rico...Can this case get any stranger!mo:rolleyes:

:ohmy::ohmy:

[Destini]

I read on another site that the house that Hoover taped DC searching had been owned by the same people for 18 years. Then then just upped and went to Puerto Rico about a year ago. All the furniture and everything is still there. Wonder if KC could have stayed there the times she was suppposed to be working. JMO



I've been reading about this house at the other site, too. Very strange they moved to Puerto Rico & left all that stuff? Is it for sale? Surely, surely LE has already checked it out. There's no doubt it's the same house in Hoover's video.

I'm not exactly clear of the location either. Is it the house that backs up to the woods where Caylee was found?

[playnice]

I dont supposed there are any legal measures that can prevent them from cremating Caylee until the trial is over?

[Mamie]

I read on another site that the house that Hoover taped DC searching had been owned by the same people for 18 years. Then then just upped and went to Puerto Rico about a year ago. All the furniture and everything is still there. Wonder if KC could have stayed there the times she was suppposed to be working. JMO


That's a great idea! We know she had to be doing something during her time away from the house and it sure wasn't working. So she stays in a house that has been abandoned by the owners who are named Gonzales(?) and they went to PR(?)----these are things she incorporated into her web of lies. I wonder if she went through their paperwork they left behind, and perhaps there is a relative named Zenaida who uses both Fernandez and Gonzales. Of course LE would need a warrant and I don't know how they handle things that involve abandoned homes. It would help if the owners were behind on taxes or something else monetary. Maybe there is another way to enter a place when you have no reasonable contact with the owner. JMO

[Daffodil]

I've had a few encounter with those who passed mainly my father but I wouldn't say it was any physic ability.

Here's one theory. Cindy and Caylee visited her dad and mom on June 15th. Cindy and Caylee came home and went in the pool. Casey came home but Cindy stated Casey didn't go in the pool. George went off to work before hand. Cindy confronted Casey about stealing her fathers $$ and they both forgot about Caylee in the pool. Cindy and Casey made up the whole Nanny story, the kidnapping story.

Casey saying to Cindy "you don't know my involvement"? Cindy covers, cleans and washes all evidence etc., on and on with lies with both Cindy and Casey. It's all about Cindy and Casey. It's never about Caylee.

That is almost exactly what I have said also. They chose a date a week earlier to throw off LE and any evidence. That is why Cindy did not look for Caylee in Tony's apartment. I think Cindy even saw Casey put Caylee in the trunk. Maybe the plan was to leave Caylee in the trunk to be found there. That is why Cindy is made that Casey did not follow Her (Cindy's) script. And Casey could care less about anything just like I would assume her whole life has been. Now she could party.

[5boxersmom]

So does everyone believe the psychic? :biggrin:

[playnice]

Perhaps George knew Casey didnt work so she only had to stay away when Cindy was there? Not like he could say much to her if he didnt work either.

[?noanswer]

I've been reading about this house at the other site, too. Very strange they moved to Puerto Rico & left all that stuff? Is it for sale? Surely, surely LE has already checked it out. There's no doubt it's the same house in Hoover's video.

I'm not exactly clear of the location either. Is it the house that backs up to the woods where Caylee was found?

I thought I read it's on the other side of suburban. JMO

[Daffodil]

That's a great idea! We know she had to be doing something during her time away from the house and it sure wasn't working. So she stays in a house that has been abandoned by the owners who are named Gonzales(?) and they went to PR(?)----these are things she incorporated into her web of lies. I wonder if she went through their paperwork they left behind, and perhaps there is a relative named Zenaida who uses both Fernandez and Gonzales. Of course LE would need a warrant and I don't know how they handle things that involve abandoned homes. It would help if the owners were behind on taxes or something else monetary. Maybe there is another way to enter a place when you have no reasonable contact with the owner. JMO

Wow, that's interesting about Casey spending the day at the house and gathering info about the owners.

[Mamie]

I dont supposed there are any legal measures that can prevent them from cremating Caylee until the trial is over?


Wouldn't that be nice. I basically stated the same thing in the last thread because I don't trust the A's at all and I think they have ulterior motives for wanting Caylee cremated. JMO

[Reenbean]

So does everyone believe the psychic? :biggrin:

LOL boxer! I think her visions are interfering with reality. Time for her to hang it up!!

[Destini]

That's a great idea! We know she had to be doing something during her time away from the house and it sure wasn't working. So she stays in a house that has been abandoned by the owners who are named Gonzales(?) and they went to PR(?)----these are things she incorporated into her web of lies. I wonder if she went through their paperwork they left behind, and perhaps there is a relative named Zenaida who uses both Fernandez and Gonzales. Of course LE would need a warrant and I don't know how they handle things that involve abandoned homes. It would help if the owners were behind on taxes or something else monetary. Maybe there is another way to enter a place when you have no reasonable contact with the owner. JMO

I'm wondering if it's truly abandoned or if they moved away & are still making mortgage payments on it. Doesn't seem like you would just walk away from property you've been making payments on for 18 years, if that's true.

[PROPROS]

That's a great idea! We know she had to be doing something during her time away from the house and it sure wasn't working. So she stays in a house that has been abandoned by the owners who are named Gonzales(?) and they went to PR(?)----these are things she incorporated into her web of lies. I wonder if she went through their paperwork they left behind, and perhaps there is a relative named Zenaida who uses both Fernandez and Gonzales. Of course LE would need a warrant and I don't know how they handle things that involve abandoned homes. It would help if the owners were behind on taxes or something else monetary. Maybe there is another way to enter a place when you have no reasonable contact with the owner. JMOIf she was hanging out there the Gonzales name would make sense..But it still doesn't explain how she connected The "real" Zaneida to Sawgrass apartments...So many Gonzales references.mo

[5boxersmom]

So the house is not the house on Hopespring where Gonzalez's lived? Another family of Gonzalez's?

[Daffodil]

I'm wondering if it's truly abandoned or if they moved away & are still making mortgage payments on it. Doesn't seem like you would just walk away from property you've been making payments on for 18 years, if that's true.

In today's market, that is done a lot more often than ever before. People just walking away from their homes, furniture and all.

[PROPROS]

So does everyone believe the psychic? :biggrin:Only if we hear she won the lottery!mo

[tomsgirl]

I read on another site that the house that Hoover taped DC searching had been owned by the same people for 18 years. Then then just upped and went to Puerto Rico about a year ago. All the furniture and everything is still there. Wonder if KC could have stayed there the times she was suppposed to be working. JMO

That's a plausible theory. Maybe she was leaving Caylee there while she partied. She gives Caylee something to make her sleep(use your imagination here) then goes on to her partying etc: JMO

[Destini]

I thought I read it's on the other side of suburban. JMO

So did the psychic tell D. Casey to search there, too? I'm so lost.

[Mamie]

Perhaps George knew Casey didnt work so she only had to stay away when Cindy was there? Not like he could say much to her if he didnt work either.

Well, actually he could. Afterall, he is the dad, not her best friend. I think George worked off and on and he was on Disability for a time with a knee injury or something so it wasn't like there was no money coming in the house from him. But still, here's his daughter, making them think she's working but she's really not. She's just sucking up everything she can----and then some. JMO

[Daffodil]

Time for me to sign off. I want to watch Nancy Grace. Didn't see the whole show.

What could we possibly predict will happen tomorrow?

[Reenbean]

I'm wondering if it's truly abandoned or if they moved away & are still making mortgage payments on it. Doesn't seem like you would just walk away from property you've been making payments on for 18 years, if that's true.

I agree, just abandoning the property doesn't make sense. Even if the house itself is worth next to nothing, the property itself has value. I don't think we have the complete, or accurate, account of this yet.

[5boxersmom]

lol, i think i might be the only one that thinks she's possibly telling the truth...she sounded so sure of herself, imo

Yeah, but she really didn't say anything we all don't know.

jmo

[Mamie]

If she was hanging out there the Gonzales name would make sense..But it still doesn't explain how she connected The "real" Zaneida to Sawgrass apartments...So many Gonzales references.mo

You know how sometimes something happens more than once to you about oh---I don't know---maybe you're waiting for a sign in a particular situation. So Casey knows people over at the Sawgrass Apts. and she sees this name again. Remembering the Gonzales house, she thinks this is her sign! Thus the story is being hatched. JMO----I know, needs work!

[summer4meplz]

I read on another site that the house that Hoover taped DC searching had been owned by the same people for 18 years. Then then just upped and went to Puerto Rico about a year ago. All the furniture and everything is still there. Wonder if KC could have stayed there the times she was suppposed to be working. JMO


Ok....this is so crazy it might be the truth......my crazy theory...

this WAS a well thought out plan to scam the public for money over a missing child....a plan hatched and agreed upon by all 4 of them....what went horribly wrong we might never know but casey killed Caylee instead of sending her off to Puerto Rico with some really nice family that had to be in on it too....(reunion planned of course)

that's why in the jailhouse tape when casey said to cindy YOU don't know what my involvement is? and cindy says.....well, I don't know where Caylee's AT......that makes sense under this scenario....

that's why george and cindy are absolutely desperate to keep this from being known.....they are probably furious with casey for killing Caylee but can't admit to it or casey will spill the beans....casey has nothing to lose now so they had better keep casey happy or she will "wish them to the cornfield".....

just a crazy theory to go along with the craziness of this case....

still uncertain about Kronk....it could be his hunch was more like a psychic urge and he's just too embarrassed to say.....or his word for it is "hunch"

[MrsHudson]

I never thought Cindy would come around to admitting Casey is evil and now my thought is confirmed. I think it is official. Cindy will never admit Casey harmed Caylee. Till the day she dies she will never admit it.

Cindy will never let it enter her mind that she did not do right by Caylee during the 31 days Caylee was supposedly with Casey and she did not do right by Caylee during the time after Casey was arrested up till this very day.

For Cindy to admit that Casey had anything at all to do with Caylee's demise is the the same as Cindy admitting that she (Cindy) is a bad mother, a bad grandmother, and a bad person.

I am afraid it is all pride now. Pride, saving face and needing to win. If Casey is found guilty Cindy will NEVER EVER relent in saying she is innocent.

I just write Cindy off as a person who is not capable of honesty, self-reflection or even tender feelings. If she had tender feelings for Caylee she would not have the heart to write quibbling letters to Lois and she would not have the heart to keep certain people out of the memorial/funeral.

Cindy just does not care about getting justice for Caylee. It's only about justifying herself now.

[joolz]

Well, actually he could. Afterall, he is the dad, not her best friend. I think George worked off and on and he was on Disability for a time with a knee injury or something so it wasn't like there was no money coming in the house from him. But still, here's his daughter, making them think she's working but she's really not. She's just sucking up everything she can----and then some. JMO

Well he could if that family had any normal dynamics, but it seems like their parent/child boundaries were blurry at best. IIRC he admitted at one point that he knew she wasn't working, but he doesn't seem to have mentioned that little fact to Cindy. Go figure. :shrug:

[mosey?]

Ginny Matacia-Lucus, he psychic/dowser said her phone bills go to her dad's (http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:Q1nRN-hRc-QJ:www.experts.com/directory.asp%3Findex%3D1007+%22ginny+lucas%22+dow sing&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us) office. He apparently is just a dowser, and not a psychic.

)Disclamer: I think the above link is right, but am not 100%)

[?noanswer]

I'm wondering if it's truly abandoned or if they moved away & are still making mortgage payments on it. Doesn't seem like you would just walk away from property you've been making payments on for 18 years, if that's true.

The electric meter had been removed. The only reason most people would walk away during this time is because of the economy. But if they really owned the house for 18 years, the payments would have really been low. I wonder if someone in the house had worked for Pepsi. There sure were a lot of Pepsi vending machines in the yard. JMO

[Janz]

Ok....this is so crazy it might be the truth......my crazy theory...

this WAS a well thought out plan to scam the public for money over a missing child....a plan hatched and agreed upon by all 4 of them....what went horribly wrong we might never know but casey killed Caylee instead of sending her off to Puerto Rico with some really nice family that had to be in on it too....(reunion planned of course)

that's why in the jailhouse tape when casey said to cindy YOU don't know what my involvement is? and cindy says.....well, I don't know where Caylee's AT......that makes sense under this scenario....

that's why george and cindy are absolutely desperate to keep this from being known.....they are probably furious with casey for killing Caylee but can't admit to it or casey will spill the beans....casey has nothing to lose now so they had better keep casey happy or she will "wish them to the cornfield".....

just a crazy theory to go along with the craziness of this case....

still uncertain about Kronk....it could be his hunch was more like a psychic urge and he's just too embarrassed to say.....or his word for it is "hunch"

You theory sounds something like Gaelicpeas. A scam for money from the public...... I don`t know, could be....

[PROPROS]

You know how sometimes something happens more than once to you about oh---I don't know---maybe you're waiting for a sign in a particular situation. So Casey knows people over at the Sawgrass Apts. and she sees this name again. Remembering the Gonzales house, she thinks this is her sign! Thus the story is being hatched. JMO----I know, needs work!I know it's frustrating isn't it...MO

[?noanswer]

So did the psychic tell D. Casey to search there, too? I'm so lost.

Yes. You want me to call the psychic to find you?!!!JMO

[Pat]

Interesting theory, summer, and I agree there are secrets being covered up. But IMO, it isn't a plan hatched but then botched with Caylee ending up in PR.

[Destini]

I agree, just abandoning the property doesn't make sense. Even if the house itself is worth next to nothing, the property itself has value. I don't think we have the complete, or accurate, account of this yet.

Me either ... eagerly awaiting the next chapter.

I can't really see Casey staying there. One of the neighbors would have seen her sooner or later, or her car. I could see her stashing a body there temporarily though, under cover of darkness. Hmm. Just thinking out loud ....

[Neffy]

I agree, just abandoning the property doesn't make sense. Even if the house itself is worth next to nothing, the property itself has value. I don't think we have the complete, or accurate, account of this yet.

If they owe back taxes with compounded interest it's worthless. On top of that they need to (yes you know the word) GET A LAWYER or agent to untangle being under one of those mess's and is why some people do just walk away.

[mosey?]

I read on another site that the house that Hoover taped DC searching had been owned by the same people for 18 years. Then then just upped and went to Puerto Rico about a year ago. All the furniture and everything is still there. Wonder if KC could have stayed there the times she was suppposed to be working. JMOThat reminds me. Caseys call records show her in the area of the Anthony home in the 16th although I dont believe she was home. This house at 4701 Hopespring would have bounced off the same tower. Casey could have even been in this house when Caylee was killed.

[dixie77]

Wouldn't you just know that this house was owned by a family named Gonzales and they went to Puerto Rico...Can this case get any stranger!mo:rolleyes:
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The same thing i was thinking. un-freaking-believable. jmo

[Reenbean]

Cindy just does not care about getting justice for Caylee. It's only about justifying herself now.


respectfully snipped~

I couldn't agree with you more.

[5boxersmom]

Remember Cindy asking Casey at the jail "Why didn't SHE take the car? That doesn't make sense." What was Cindy talking about? Who is She?
Was this part of the script and Casey messed up?

jmo

[happygert]

Here's a clip of the teddy bear on casey's bed that say's mommy on it.. wonder maybe this is the teddy bear that physic said she got...

[MrsHudson]

I've had a few encounter with those who passed mainly my father but I wouldn't say it was any physic ability.

Here's one theory. Cindy and Caylee visited her dad and mom on June 15th. Cindy and Caylee came home and went in the pool. Casey came home but Cindy stated Casey didn't go in the pool. George went off to work before hand. Cindy confronted Casey about stealing her fathers $$ and they both forgot about Caylee in the pool. Cindy and Casey made up the whole Nanny story, the kidnapping story.

Casey saying to Cindy "you don't know my involvement"? Cindy covers, cleans and washes all evidence etc., on and on with lies with both Cindy and Casey. It's all about Cindy and Casey. It's never about Caylee.

That's sounds plauseable. I mean it would be something Casey could wait for the trial to reveal too. Baez says we will all understand when the trial comes. Wouldn't that be something???

However when Casey says, "you don't know my involvement" she could be referring to the arguement as if to say to Cindy, "You are partly at fault here I would not have run off except for that fight where you choked me."

[dixie77]

That reminds me. Caseys call records show her in the area of the Anthony home in the 16th although I dont believe she was home. This house at 4701 Hopespring would have bounced off the same tower. Casey could have even been in this house when Caylee was killed.
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i wonder if LE has been in this house to check it out.

[PROPROS]

I never thought Cindy would come around to admitting Casey is evil and now my thought is confirmed. I think it is official. Cindy will never admit Casey harmed Caylee. Till the day she dies she will never admit it.

Cindy will never let it enter her mind that she did not do right by Caylee during the 31 days Caylee was supposedly with Casey and she did not do right by Caylee during the time after Casey was arrested up till this very day.

For Cindy to admit that Casey had anything at all to do with Caylee's demise is the the same as Cindy admitting that she (Cindy) is a bad mother, a bad grandmother, and a bad person.

I am afraid it is all pride now. Pride, saving face and needing to win. If Casey is found guilty Cindy will NEVER EVER relent in saying she is innocent.

I just write Cindy off as a person who is not capable of honesty, self-reflection or even tender feelings. If she had tender feelings for Caylee she would not have the heart to write quibbling letters to Lois and she would not have the heart to keep certain people out of the memorial/funeral.

Cindy just does not care about getting justice for Caylee. It's only about justifying herself now.Very well said MrsHudson, and as always I agree with every word of your post....IMO, Cindy is doing a great dis-service to both Caylee and Casey..Casey most likely will spend the rest of her life in prison. She needs to come to terms with her crime and feel "remorse". Cindy is not helping her by putting the blame elsewhere.mo

[Destini]

Yes. You want me to call the psychic to find you?!!!JMO

LOL ... now, that was funny! My smile for the day!

[mosey?]

So did the psychic tell D. Casey to search there, too? I'm so lost.The phychic said the dream woke her at 3am. She called DCasey and left a message to call her ASAP, then emailed him the same message, then called him again. She doesnt remember if she used her home or cell phone.
When she finally reached DC he was already parked at the location (?)
She said she directed his movements, around the house and in the woods, on and off for several hours and many calls.

Why was DC already parked on Suburban?

[dixie77]

Originally Posted by koody
I've had a few encounter with those who passed mainly my father but I wouldn't say it was any physic ability.

Here's one theory. Cindy and Caylee visited her dad and mom on June 15th. Cindy and Caylee came home and went in the pool. Casey came home but Cindy stated Casey didn't go in the pool. George went off to work before hand. Cindy confronted Casey about stealing her fathers $$ and they both forgot about Caylee in the pool. Cindy and Casey made up the whole Nanny story, the kidnapping story.

Casey saying to Cindy "you don't know my involvement"? Cindy covers, cleans and washes all evidence etc., on and on with lies with both Cindy and Casey. It's all about Cindy and Casey. It's never about Caylee.
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I could definitely buy into that theory but the only thing is that Cindy called 911 to report Caylee missing. jmo

[mosey?]

maybe i'm looking at the wrong house?...can someone post that link again for the pictures of it, please?....i don't think i saw pepsi machines..It's the very last house on the same side as the A's house at the corner of Hopespring and Suburban. It has a very large fenced triangular back yard

[happy2bme]

That reminds me. Caseys call records show her in the area of the Anthony home in the 16th although I dont believe she was home. This house at 4701 Hopespring would have bounced off the same tower. Casey could have even been in this house when Caylee was killed.


LA also lives close....would her ping still be on the same tower?

[Reenbean]

If they owe back taxes with compounded interest it's worthless. On top of that they need to (yes you know the word) GET A LAWYER or agent to untangle being under one of those mess's and is why some people do just walk away.

Exactly my point. We don't have the full story yet IMO. The scenario you mentioned hasn't been reported.

[steffaroob4]

So does everyone believe the psychic? :biggrin:

Something is wrong...

Her story sounds a lot like one LP's theories. The double bagged info, one white, one dark.
Is this the link that fries hoover, was hoover giving LP inside info? Did Hoover know the tip was from a psychic that day, has been less than truthful about knowing where the body is story?
I say there is a daisy chain, we need to look at hoover and LP a little closer.

[happygert]

That's sounds plauseable. I mean it would be something Casey could wait for the trial to reveal too. Baez says we will all understand when the trial comes. Wouldn't that be something???

However when Casey says, "you don't know my involvement" she could be referring to the arguement as if to say to Cindy, "You are partly at fault here I would not have run off except for that fight where you choked me."

No Casey would never cover for someone least of all her mom..She wouldn't be sitting behind bars if someone else did it..

[summer4meplz]

Remember Cindy asking Casey at the jail "Why didn't SHE take the car? That doesn't make sense." What was Cindy talking about? Who is She?
Was this part of the script and Casey messed up?

jmo


maybe she was talking about the kidnapper that was supposed to have taken off with casey's car while Caylee was in her little carseat....maybe cindy thought this was just their plan.....

[mosey?]

Remember Cindy asking Casey at the jail "Why didn't SHE take the car? That doesn't make sense." What was Cindy talking about? Who is She?
Was this part of the script and Casey messed up?

jmoCould she have been talking about Casey having Amy's car while she was in PR?

The only other think I can think of when Casey said she was following when Zanny got in the wreck and was in the Hospital, but it doesnt really fit.

[PROPROS]

That reminds me. Caseys call records show her in the area of the Anthony home in the 16th although I dont believe she was home. This house at 4701 Hopespring would have bounced off the same tower. Casey could have even been in this house when Caylee was killed.OMG...I was just thinking that when I read your post. mo

[MrsHudson]

Perhaps George knew Casey didnt work so she only had to stay away when Cindy was there? Not like he could say much to her if he didnt work either.

This is just tangental but George knew George did not work so how come he never baby sat Caylee? What did he do all day??? He could have baby sat the child.

Nobody wanted to babysit Caylee that's what I gather. And no one wanted to pay for a babysitter either! That's one reason I think C and G never did enough to find out about who the babysitter was. They did not want to know there was not one because it raised the question of getting a real one and who would pay her. Not CAsey, she had no money and had to steal.

Babysitter's are not cheap. And I think G and C just did not want to get into all that because in the end it was going to cost them money.

[Neffy]

Something is wrong...

Her story sounds a lot like one LP's theories. The double bagged info, one white one dark.
Is this the link that fries hoover, was hoover giving LP inside info? Did Hoover know the tip was from a psychic that day, has been less than truthful about knowing where the body is story?
I say there is a daisy chain, we need to look at hoover and LP a little closer.

Speaking of LP on NG he's still peddling Kronk being tipped.

[mosey?]

LA also lives close....would her ping still be on the same tower?Through all of this I have never known where Lee lives. Do you have an approx. address? I can look. T'anks!

[joolz]

Remember Cindy asking Casey at the jail "Why didn't SHE take the car? That doesn't make sense." What was Cindy talking about? Who is She?
Was this part of the script and Casey messed up?

jmo


I think Cindy was probably referring to the mythical Nannyzanny after her terrible car accident that undoubtedly left Zanny's car undriveable. Remember, Zanny had to spend the night in the hospital?

[happy2bme]

Could she have been talking about Casey having Amy's car while she was in PR?

The only other think I can think of when Casey said she was following when Zanny got in the wreck and was in the Hospital, but it doesnt really fit.

IIRC...I think you may be right but I am not 100% sure.

[playnice]

I think DC was on the phone with Lee or Baez.

[?noanswer]

maybe i'm looking at the wrong house?...can someone post that link again for the pictures of it, please?....i don't think i saw pepsi machines..

http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

About house in DC video. JMO

Still pictures of the house where DC was searching.

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/marellano/Caylee/?action=view&current=House006.jpg

[Reenbean]

No Casey would never cover for someone least of all her mom..She wouldn't be sitting behind bars if someone else did it..


Casey has never taken responsibility for herself, NO WAY would she take the rap for anyone else.

[mosey?]

Speaking of LP on NG he's still peddling Kronk being tipped.I TOTALLY belive Kronk is innocent of anything to do with Caylee and the evil entourage.

[steffaroob4]

Speaking of LP on NG he's still peddling Kronk being tipped.

Well, we will see who the better bounty hunter is in the end.

So far, Kronk is winning, LP better keep trying.

[happygert]

This is just tangental but George knew George did not work so how come he never baby sat Caylee? What did he do all day??? He could have baby sat the child.

Nobody wanted to babysit Caylee that's what I gather. And no one wanted to pay for a babysitter either! That's one reason I think C and G never did enough to find out about who the babysitter was. They did not want to know there was not one because it raised the question of getting a real one and who would pay her. Not CAsey, she had no money and had to steal.

Babysitter's are not cheap. And I think G and C just did not want to get into all that because in the end it was going to cost them money.

MrsHudson have you listened to the LE interviews? Not the fbi ones..where cindy's talking about casey being home when she got home form work and being home before she left for work?

[joolz]

I TOTALLY belive Kronk is innocent of anything to do with Caylee and the evil entourage.


So do I.:thumbup:

[gaelicpeas]

You theory sounds something like Gaelicpeas. A scam for money from the public...... I don`t know, could be....
Yep, that has been my theory for a long time...

[Destini]

The phychic said the dream woke her at 3am. She called DCasey and left a message to call her ASAP, then emailed him the same message, then called him again. She doesnt remember if she used her home or cell phone.
When she finally reached DC he was already parked at the location (?)
She said she directed his movements, around the house and in the woods, on and off for several hours and many calls.

Why was DC already parked on Suburban?

I don't know. Maybe she had talked to him previously & called him back with the dream info?? Just guessing.

I found this interesting, from the psychic's website:

She is a former private investigator using clairaudience, clairvoyance, clairsentience, trance mediumship and psychometric techniques, to obtain vital information to help solve complex cases.

http://www.paranormaladvisors.com/about.html

[happy2bme]

This is just tangental but George knew George did not work so how come he never baby sat Caylee? What did he do all day??? He could have baby sat the child.

Nobody wanted to babysit Caylee that's what I gather. And no one wanted to pay for a babysitter either! That's one reason I think C and G never did enough to find out about who the babysitter was. They did not want to know there was not one because it raised the question of getting a real one and who would pay her. Not CAsey, she had no money and had to steal.

Babysitter's are not cheap. And I think G and C just did not want to get into all that because in the end it was going to cost them money.

Have you read the docs of the emails between Cindy's family? I had not and they were posted today....never once did I see the name ZG. I believe the emails started from the day after Cindy's 50th bday. If u haven't read them...then you should. imo

[happy2bme]

Through all of this I have never known where Lee lives. Do you have an approx. address? I can look. T'anks!

Sadly, I do not...I either read or heard (hearsay) that he lived a street or a couple over. sorry imo

[Neffy]

This is just tangental but George knew George did not work so how come he never baby sat Caylee? What did he do all day??? He could have baby sat the child.

Nobody wanted to babysit Caylee that's what I gather. And no one wanted to pay for a babysitter either! That's one reason I think C and G never did enough to find out about who the babysitter was. They did not want to know there was not one because it raised the question of getting a real one and who would pay her. Not CAsey, she had no money and had to steal.

Babysitter's are not cheap. And I think G and C just did not want to get into all that because in the end it was going to cost them money.


They're certainly not cheap for a toddler. Couple hundred a week.

[Mamie]

I know it's frustrating isn't it...MO

Oh man----to say the least!

[PROPROS]

I TOTALLY belive Kronk is innocent of anything to do with Caylee and the evil entourage.So do I...I hope what he has gone through will not stop other citizens from getting involved and reporting a dead body or a crime.mo

[happy2bme]

Casey has never taken responsibility for herself, NO WAY would she take the rap for anyone else.

Nor was she ever made to.

[bluwaters]

Psychic on phone with Casey speaks
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8245473&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Psychic who was talking to PI speaks out - video
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12652634&posted=1#post12652634

[?noanswer]

Sadly, I do not...I either read or heard (hearsay) that he lived a street or a couple over. sorry imo


Don't know if you heard this, but he moved in with G & C at the end of Dec. JMO

[dixie77]

Something is wrong...

Her story sounds a lot like one LP's theories. The double bagged info, one white, one dark.
Is this the link that fries hoover, was hoover giving LP inside info? Did Hoover know the tip was from a psychic that day, has been less than truthful about knowing where the body is story?
I say there is a daisy chain, we need to look at hoover and LP a little closer.
===========

Yep......her saying the double-bagged info really grabbed me. She is so full of it. jmo

[Neffy]

Yep, that has been my theory for a long time...

Did you see the earlier threads. Caylee website has tshirts and bracelets back up for sale.

[steffaroob4]

Is anyone here a member of LP's paid/provate forum?
I remember what went on there when the scuffle between Tim Miller and LP happened. I wonder if the same thing is going on with Mr. Kronk.

Is LP trying to remove certain people from the case, to keep himself the go-to-guy for the media? Something just isn't right here.

[happy2bme]

Was it not the teenage boy from that house at 4701 ?that did a video showing the area and saying it was under water? Sorry I don't have a link to that video by him but I know I saw it on the tv.

I saw it as well.

[?noanswer]

Is anyone here a member of LP's paid/provate forum?
I remember what went on there when the scuffle between Tim Miller and LP happened. I wonder if the same thing is going on with Mr. Kronk.

Is LP trying to remove certain people from the case, to keep himself the go-to-guy for the media? Something just isn't right here.

I thought they had stopped charging to go onto the site. I have never been there. JMO

[mosey?]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

About house in DC video. JMO

Still pictures of the house where DC was searching.

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b100/marellano/Caylee/?action=view&current=House006.jpg
The house in the second link has an address of 8718. That's not on Hopespring.

[happy2bme]

Don't know if you heard this, but he moved in with G & C at the end of Dec. JMO

I did, and it was confirmed.....but WHY?

[Calla]

Ok....this is so crazy it might be the truth......my crazy theory...

this WAS a well thought out plan to scam the public for money over a missing child....a plan hatched and agreed upon by all 4 of them....what went horribly wrong we might never know but casey killed Caylee instead of sending her off to Puerto Rico with some really nice family that had to be in on it too....(reunion planned of course)

that's why in the jailhouse tape when casey said to cindy YOU don't know what my involvement is? and cindy says.....well, I don't know where Caylee's AT......that makes sense under this scenario....

that's why george and cindy are absolutely desperate to keep this from being known.....they are probably furious with casey for killing Caylee but can't admit to it or casey will spill the beans....casey has nothing to lose now so they had better keep casey happy or she will "wish them to the cornfield".....

just a crazy theory to go along with the craziness of this case....

still uncertain about Kronk....it could be his hunch was more like a psychic urge and he's just too embarrassed to say.....or his word for it is "hunch"

OK Great Movie! But not true..lol

[steffaroob4]

I thought they had stopped charging to go onto the site. I have never been there. JMO

I checked last week, you gotta be a paid member, you do get a free dvd for joining.

[gaelicpeas]

Did you see the earlier threads. Caylee website has tshirts and bracelets back up for sale.
Yes, I did see that. However, I have missed some of this evening's discussion because I was watching the bond hearing link that was posted, and I had missed that before.

[Reenbean]

I did, and it was confirmed.....but WHY?

Maybe to talk into the wee hours every night making sure all their stories are straight?! :ohmy:

[happy2bme]

OK Great Movie! But not true..lol

I am with you.....but ...as crazy as this case has been and is getting...NOTHING WOULD SHOCK ME.

[Calla]

Psychic on phone with Casey speaks
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8245473&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Psychic who was talking to PI speaks out - video
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12652634&posted=1#post12652634

I told you all ..Dom Casey probably said ' i was talking to my psychic & daughter' and someone thought he said "sick daughter" jmo of course

[jusdafacts]

The house in the second link has an address of 8718. That's not on Hopespring.

The abandoned house is 8718 Brackenwood Drive.

[Janz]

Yep, that has been my theory for a long time...

LOL, I understood your theory all along gaelic. I sincerely hope something good comes of all this, I would love to see something done about KF`s making money off a murdered child, as this baby was never missing.

[PROPROS]

Did you see the earlier threads. Caylee website has tshirts and bracelets back up for sale.What are they selling...The Have You Seen Me t-shirts!mo

[?noanswer]

The house in the second link has an address of 8718. That's not on Hopespring.


No, its not on Hopespring. That is the house that is in the video where Hoover was taping Dominic Casey doing the searches. It has been abandoned for about a year. The owners are Gonzales. They supposedly went to Puerto Rico. JMO

[bluwaters]

I told you all ..Dom Casey probably said ' i was talking to my psychic & daughter' and someone thought he said "sick daughter" jmo of course
Oh man, so the psychic is D Casey's alibi.
They're all nutz...

[steffaroob4]

The house in the second link has an address of 8718. That's not on Hopespring.

Look right between A's house and lee's, (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112207365672542480712.000455b4884de4fdc7516) it's called Brackenwood

[PROPROS]

Oh man, so the psychic is D Casey's alibi.
They're all nutz...
ITA...and what is her motive for lying for DC....mo

[aubrey04]

I read on another site that the house that Hoover taped DC searching had been owned by the same people for 18 years. Then then just upped and went to Puerto Rico about a year ago. All the furniture and everything is still there. Wonder if KC could have stayed there the times she was suppposed to be working. JMO

:o ............ :o

What the hay?

[happy2bme]

I told you all ..Dom Casey probably said ' i was talking to my psychic & daughter' and someone thought he said "sick daughter" jmo of course

Had to look and see when you joined on that one...........PHEW.:blink:

I am just kidding.

Who do you believe with all of this? I can not begin to fathom how LE feels?

[happy2bme]

Look right between A's house and lee's, (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112207365672542480712.000455b4884de4fdc7516) it's called Brackenwood

So Lee does live close?

[Mamie]

I TOTALLY belive Kronk is innocent of anything to do with Caylee and the evil entourage.

I do too. I hadn't totally made up my mind until this afternoon but after watching him repeatedly today, I've taken a stand. The guy is totally believable and has my vote. JMO

[mosey?]

OK thanks so...
I do not think that is the house. Didn't someone on here do a driveby of the houses and only saw 3 dark and that was on one of them....if saying the electric meter was removed that would not be the house in question perhaps?It's not the house.
Zenaida- 4701 Hopespring
Gonzalez- 4709 Hopespring
Anthony's-4937

That house has an address of 8718, so it's not even on Hopespring

[?noanswer]

Had to look and see when you joined on that one...........PHEW.:blink:

I am just kidding.

Who do you believe with all of this? I can not begin to fathom how LE feels?

Nor can I. This case might be a catalyst for FL to do away with the sunshine law. Since the advent of the internet with all these web posting, nothing is secret anymore. JMO

[Neffy]

What are they selling...The Have You Seen Me t-shirts!mo

Yep. Got the informercial up and going.

YOU DEMANDED IT AND WE'RE BACK !

Ok so I paraphrased same dang thing.

[joolz]

And ummm... will Dominic's daughter's phone records show the call or will it be yet another phantom phone call?

Verizon needs to get on the ball. Seems a few people are getting away with calls not being billed.

I never get away with my calls unbilled by Verizon. It's not fair!!!!:angry:

[happy2bme]

Nor can I. This case might be a catalyst for FL to do away with the sunshine law. Since the advent of the internet with all these web posting, nothing is secret anymore. JMO


more the reason for people to learn a lie ...will eventually bite you in the azz.jmo

[steffaroob4]

So Lee does live close?

He did, before he moved home, a couple of strrets up the road is all.

[Mamie]

The house in the second link has an address of 8718. That's not on Hopespring.

No, it's on Chickasaw.

[enigma]

Someone posted on last thread that everyone connected to this case would need Attorneys and the Attorneys would need attorneys.. Do they have that many attorneys?

Probably not... People looking for a new and lucrative career may wish to get craking. A lot of studying to do.

JMHO

[joolz]

ITA...and what is her motive for lying for DC....mo

Free publicity on national tv - I'm sure she never thought she would get busted about the time of the phone calls. Although, seeing as she's a psychic, she really should have known.:laugh:

[AbbyNormal]

I never thought Cindy would come around to admitting Casey is evil and now my thought is confirmed. I think it is official. Cindy will never admit Casey harmed Caylee. Till the day she dies she will never admit it.

Cindy will never let it enter her mind that she did not do right by Caylee during the 31 days Caylee was supposedly with Casey and she did not do right by Caylee during the time after Casey was arrested up till this very day.

For Cindy to admit that Casey had anything at all to do with Caylee's demise is the the same as Cindy admitting that she (Cindy) is a bad mother, a bad grandmother, and a bad person.

I am afraid it is all pride now. Pride, saving face and needing to win. If Casey is found guilty Cindy will NEVER EVER relent in saying she is innocent.

I just write Cindy off as a person who is not capable of honesty, self-reflection or even tender feelings. If she had tender feelings for Caylee she would not have the heart to write quibbling letters to Lois and she would not have the heart to keep certain people out of the memorial/funeral.

Cindy just does not care about getting justice for Caylee. It's only about justifying herself now.Well said! Well said.
And very, very sad. That poor, sweet, baby.

[?noanswer]

It's not the house.
Zenaida- 4701 Hopespring
Gonzalez- 4709 Hopespring
Anthony's-4937

That house has an address of 8718, so it's not even on Hopespring

I didn't mean to confuse anyone. I was told posters are not allowed to post addresses. There is a Gonzales that owns the house at 8718 ***** also. So there are 2 Gonzales who own houses in the A's neighborhood. One is on the same street, the other is one street over. JMO

[happy2bme]

He did, before he moved home, a couple of strrets up the road is all.

LOL...I meant "did"... thanks for correcting me.:tonguewag:


So would the same pings be picked up from LA house as well as the A's.

[enigma]

I read on another site that the house that Hoover taped DC searching had been owned by the same people for 18 years. Then then just upped and went to Puerto Rico about a year ago. All the furniture and everything is still there. Wonder if KC could have stayed there the times she was suppposed to be working. JMO

Now, that's a really interesting question! I haven't read further in the thread, so maybe someone has ansered it - I'll go read.

The other thing is... those people were called Gonzales, weren't they? Just like Zanny... Maybe that's where she "improvised" the name from?

JMHO

[Calla]

Had to look and see when you joined on that one...........PHEW.:blink:

I am just kidding.

Who do you believe with all of this? I can not begin to fathom how LE feels?

I do not think Kronk was tipped off.
I think all of the PI's etc were looking to be that "Bombshell..Breaking News" guy,,,I think D Casey wanted to find a resolution somehow, but I do believe the area where the bones were was under water..maybe he was real close to the spot, but the bones were underwater. Even the neighbors that are there say so. Kronk says so. No purpose to lie about that. They were all scrambling to be the one to bust the case open..

I believe Dom Casey probably did say "we know where she is..shes dead..we are going to get her' but I do not believe his info came soley from a psychic..because we know you can buy those listening devices on t.v. and these PI guys have a better brand than we can afford..lol. thats all jmo of course

I am more curious now than before about the google searches . If I read correctly and "self defense" was looked up,(which I never noticed before)..then I go back to my original thought that Cindy and George are lucky to be alive .

[happy2bme]

If '4148 Eagle Feather Dr Orlando, FL 32829' was Lee's address... yes, he lived very close.

Copy the address above & go to Google Maps & paste the address in the search bar.

You will be able to go to Street View if you'd like.

okay ...thanks. Still want to know about the ping situation.

[Calla]

And ummm... will Dominic's daughter's phone records show the call or will it be yet another phantom phone call?

Verizon needs to get on the ball. Seems a few people are getting away with calls not being billed.

wish my carrier did that..they don't lose my calls:huh:

I don't know if her records will show the call..maybe the psychic knows:cool:

[gaelicpeas]

LOL, I understood your theory all along gaelic. I sincerely hope something good comes of all this, I would love to see something done about KF`s making money off a murdered child, as this baby was never missing.
I agree completely.

[mosey?]

Look right between A's house and lee's, (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112207365672542480712.000455b4884de4fdc7516) it's called BrackenwoodSo why are we interested in a house at 8718 Brackenwood? Thats quite a ways from where Caylee was found. Was DC looking at the brackenwood house?

Thanks for showing me Lee's old house. His cell tower would have been 28.5028444 81.286333. Casey didnt hit on that tower often. Althought it was hit on before and during "the flurry of calls" on the 16th. It may have been 'back up' to the tower closer to home, though.

[MrsHudson]

MrsHudson have you listened to the LE interviews? Not the fbi ones..where cindy's talking about casey being home when she got home form work and being home before she left for work?

Did Cindy tell the truth about that? I bet not.

[PROPROS]

Yep. Got the informercial up and going.

YOU DEMANDED IT AND WE'RE BACK !

Ok so I paraphrased same dang thing.OH.....What is the point of that! I could see a Caylee memorial t-shirt. But, why a Have You Seen me t-shirt. What is going on with these people. How can they even think about selling "that " shirt at a time like this!mo

[happy2bme]

I do not think Kronk was tipped off.
I think all of the PI's etc were looking to be that "Bombshell..Breaking News" guy,,,I think D Casey wanted to find a resolution somehow, but I do believe the area where the bones were was under water..maybe he was real close to the spot, but the bones were underwater. Even the neighbors that are there say so. Kronk says so. No purpose to lie about that. They were all scrambling to be the one to bust the case open..

I believe Dom Casey probably did say "we know where she is..shes dead..we are going to get her' but I do not believe his info came soley from a psychic..because we know you can buy those listening devices on t.v. and these PI guys have a better brand than we can afford..lol. thats all jmo of course

I am more curious now than before about the google searches . If I read correctly and "self defense" was looked up,(which I never noticed before)..then I go back to my original thought that Cindy and George are lucky to be alive .

Thanks for your response, Calla. Who knows with this case?

[True2Blues]

And ummm... will Dominic's daughter's phone records show the call or will it be yet another phantom phone call?

Verizon needs to get on the ball. Seems a few people are getting away with calls not being billed.


You'd think they'd have gone broke doing business like that.

[Mamie]

No, it's on Chickasaw.


OOPS! My mistake, it's OFF Chickasaw Trail, not ON Chickasaw Trail. Sorry.

[Janz]

Still trying to understand how it is that B Conway is also the attorney for D. Casey. Must be a package deal sort of thing...:confused:

[PROPROS]

Free publicity on national tv - I'm sure she never thought she would get busted about the time of the phone calls. Although, seeing as she's a psychic, she really should have known.:laugh:(LO)...Did she think she would become the next Miss Cleo!!mo

[MrsHudson]

Have you read the docs of the emails between Cindy's family? I had not and they were posted today....never once did I see the name ZG. I believe the emails started from the day after Cindy's 50th bday. If u haven't read them...then you should. imo

I will if I can find them!

[mosey?]

Thank you
If it is 8718 then the street must go in the opposite direction than Hopespring as that is usually the way the numbers in most towns go per N and S and then the numbers double E and W or visa versa.No. Hopespring is a short street with no continuation or 'break" The A's live on the south end and the other 2 houses "Zenaida and Gonzales" on the extream north end.

[Calla]

Bolded part by me to reply to this part.
I so agree this quote has something to do with Cindy and Casey's involvement...now exactly what is it?
Your's is as good as mine as YES I believe there is more to this quote than we know.

I dont think that way...

IIRC she said "you don't know what my involvment is"

Cindy says "well you are not telling me where she's at"

Casey says "because I don't know where shes at..are you 'bleeping' kidding me"

Cindy says " don't waste your calls to holler at me"

I dont think Cindy had anything to do with Caylees' death. Casey did it all by herself..(unless we hear later that she had help from a friend we havent heard of yet:ohmy:)

[jusdafacts]

So why are we interested in a house at 8718 Brackenwood? Thats quite a ways from where Caylee was found. Was DC looking at the brackenwood house?

Thanks for showing me Lee's old house. His cell tower would have been 28.5028444 81.286333. Casey didnt hit on that tower often. Althought it was hit on before and during "the flurry of calls" on the 16th. It may have been 'back up' to the tower closer to home, though.

Brackenwood is the location DCasey was videotaped cutting thru the garbage bags and digging with a trowel. It's not all that far from Hopespring as it basically "backs onto" Suburban.

[steffaroob4]

So why are we interested in a house at 8718 Brackenwood? Thats quite a ways from where Caylee was found. Was DC looking at the brackenwood house?

Thanks for showing me Lee's old house. His cell tower would have been 28.5028444 81.286333. Casey didnt hit on that tower often. Althought it was hit on before and during "the flurry of calls" on the 16th. It may have been 'back up' to the tower closer to home, though.

I guess that is where the psychic lead him, lol.
Well, if it is true a Gonzalez family lived there, maybe DC thought it was worth checking.

I think it is a bunch of crap the defense was trying to build up to link the mystery nanny with.

[mosey?]

No, it's on Chickasaw.What is the significance of that house?

[Mamie]

What is the significance of that house?

I corrected myself, mosey. It is not ON Chickasaw, it's OFF Chickasaw. That house was the house in question we were all discussing and the owner's name had significance to this whole story.

[Jessspb]

Please forgive me if this has been posted. I read earlier tonight on the board that Cindy would be on the news speaking out for the first time since Caylee has been found. Does anyone have the link to her interview? I went to the links thread and didn't see it. Thanks in advance.

[mosey?]

Brackenwood is the location DCasey was videotaped cutting thru the garbage bags and digging with a trowel. It's not all that far from Hopespring as it basically "backs onto" Suburban.He was quite a ways away, then. Across Suburban Dr, over a fence, through woods, to that house's backyard. 100 yards or so, I think. Not even close to where Caylee was found (relatively speaking)

[happy2bme]

I will if I can find them!


Here ya go!

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155446.pdf

[Neffy]

Still trying to understand how it is that B Conway is also the attorney for D. Casey. Must be a package deal sort of thing...:confused:

More like a conflict of interest deal.

[Motomom]

Please forgive me if this has been posted. I read earlier tonight on the board that Cindy would be on the news speaking out for the first time since Caylee has been found. Does anyone have the link to her interview? I went to the links thread and didn't see it. Thanks in advance.

No, she was not on there. Her and Lois were exchanging emails, that's what that was about.

[True2Blues]

Please forgive me if this has been posted. I read earlier tonight on the board that Cindy would be on the news speaking out for the first time since Caylee has been found. Does anyone have the link to her interview? I went to the links thread and didn't see it. Thanks in advance.


I think that was a mistake. Cindy wasn't on the news, but they did discuss an e-mail she sent to someone.

[Janz]

I guess that is where the psychic lead him, lol.
Well, if it is true a Gonzalez family lived there, maybe DC thought it was worth checking.

I think it is a bunch of crap the defense was trying to build up to link the mystery nanny with.

Yep, still trying to build a case around the ludicuous "phanny nanny" theory. Too bad for Casey it is being carried out by idjits......not working out so well.... She`s going down.

[summer4meplz]

Dr. Baden just said they know who the father is on Greta.....that's new isnt it?

[joolz]

I dont think that way...

IIRC she said "you don't know what my involvment is"

Cindy says "well you are not telling me where she's at"

Casey says "because I don't know where shes at..are you 'bleeping' kidding me"

Cindy says " don't waste your calls to holler at me"

I dont think Cindy had anything to do with Caylees' death. Casey did it all by herself..(unless we hear later that she had help from a friend we havent heard of yet:ohmy:)


I'm still sticking with my original theory that Casey's "you don't know what my involvement is?" was her attempt to sound outraged that her mother could dare imply that she had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance. As in: How can you even question my honesty?

Although given everything that has been happening with this screwy bunch, I could be persuaded that I am "absolutely" wrong about this.

[?noanswer]

Guest on GVS just said that Kronk is not able to go out and read meters anymore. They have moved him to an inside job. Also said there were two other people with him on the first day he was out on Aug. 11Didn't call until he was home that night.

Dr. Baden saying if body was disposed of in June, because of the hot weather, the body would have decomposed much faster until the rain came. He also said they know who the father is from the DNA. (I don't think so.)

JMO

[mosey?]

I corrected myself, mosey. It is not ON Chickasaw, it's OFF Chickasaw. That house was the house in question we were all discussing and the owner's name had significance to this whole story.Okey doke. I dont know why but I thought DC was looking at the house at the corner of Hopespring and Suburban. He was in another neighborhood altogether.
Wadda maroon (me)

[Calla]

Yes... quoting again... :)

I don't want to burst the 'psychic & daughter' bubble but I feel I must.

I don't recall Dominic saying he was on the phone with his sick daughter.

I do recall Dominic saying he was on the phone with his ill daughter. Which would take the 'psychic' part right out of there.

Ok so that dog didnt hunt...:biggrin:
Let me see what else I can come up with

[True2Blues]

Yep, still trying to build a case around the ludicuous "phanny nanny" theory. Too bad for Casey it is being carried out by idjits......not working out so well.... She`s going down.

And yet they cling to that completely unbelievable fantasy. They may not be bright, but boy are they determined.

[Neffy]

I dont think that way...

IIRC she said "you don't know what my involvment is"

Cindy says "well you are not telling me where she's at"

Casey says "because I don't know where shes at..are you 'bleeping' kidding me"

Cindy says " don't waste your calls to holler at me"

I dont think Cindy had anything to do with Caylees' death. Casey did it all by herself..(unless we hear later that she had help from a friend we havent heard of yet:ohmy:)

The first few times I heard that I took as shock from Casey as if to say how stupid can you be. Caylee's been missing 31 days and I reported it to no one and you don't know what my involvement is? The car the trunk!

[PROPROS]

I agree. Occams razor.

Casey fought with Cindy the night of June 15th. She then left with Caylee & murdered her.

All the rest... smoke & mirrors. Cindy & George lying to authorities & withholding information... smoke & mirrors. Casey's 'kidnapping' story... smoke & mirrors.Yep...Thats pretty much it and I'm pretty sure the pros heve plenty of windex to clean up that smoke and mirrors!mo

[Mamie]

Dr. Baden just said they know who the father is on Greta.....that's new isnt it?


If she's going to continue to have her little segment on this every night, I gotta start watching her again. I know she'll be covering it when the trial starts, but now I gotta tape her at 10 and not watch her until tomorrow morning! Okay, I'm through cyring now.

[?noanswer]

Please forgive me if this has been posted. I read earlier tonight on the board that Cindy would be on the news speaking out for the first time since Caylee has been found. Does anyone have the link to her interview? I went to the links thread and didn't see it. Thanks in advance.

That was a mistake. It was a report about CA sending an email to Lois, disinviting her to the memorial service. JMO

[Janz]

Dr. Baden just said they know who the father is on Greta.....that's new isnt it?

He has been saying that for a while now......

[Jessspb]

Thanks, Motomom and True2Blues. I saw the video about the emails. I misunderstood. I thought Cindy would be speaking on the news. Thanks!

[Calla]

I think Kronk was trying to be a LP bounty hunter reincarnated and wanted to find Caylee before LP.

JMO

LOL well I find it kind of ironic that a 'retired' bounty hunter out did the still active hunters..etc
I think had most anyone on this board..just choose someone..heard the info he heard and had occasion to be in that area that often, we would have been as alert, as observant, and as dilligent as he was.

[playnice]

Guest on GVS just said that Kronk is not able to go out and read meters anymore. They have moved him to an inside job. Also said there were two other people with him on the first day he was out on Aug. 11Didn't call until he was home that night.

Dr. Baden saying if body was disposed of in June, because of the hot weather, the body would have decomposed much faster until the rain came. He also said they know who the father is from the DNA. (I don't think so.)

JMO

They would have to have the fathers DNA to know that.

[Pat]

I don't believe (at this point) Cindy or George had a thing to do with Caylee's death. That's on Casey and IMO she acted alone.

I also don't believe Cindy knew Caylee was dead when she first called 911. I think it is very likely she found out very shortly after.

The fact Cindy and George immediately started looking in the back yard and under the pavers indicates to me they were aware Casey was capable of fatally harming Caylee, either accidentally or deliberately.

IMO, Cindy has been covering for Casey since the beginning.

It will be interesting to see how Baez tries to twist the overwhelming circumstantial and forensic evidence.

Never forget...the LE arrested Casey for 1st degree murder before Caylee's body was ever found. They must have pretty strong evidence to have done this.

[True2Blues]

Guest on GVS just said that Kronk is not able to go out and read meters anymore. They have moved him to an inside job. Also said there were two other people with him on the first day he was out on Aug. 11Didn't call until he was home that night.

Dr. Baden saying if body was disposed of in June, because of the hot weather, the body would have decomposed much faster until the rain came. He also said they know who the father is from the DNA. (I don't think so.)

JMO

I take anything Dr. "I don't know what conflict of interest means" Baden says, with a BIG grain of salt. They will certainly have the DNA of Caylee's Father now, but I haven't heard that they have matched it up to anyone.

[kitty1182]

Dr. Baden just said they know who the father is on Greta.....that's new isnt it?

I believe LE and or the Pros. knows..IMO

[summer4meplz]

i missed that, hmmm

wonder why that would even be brought up...if they actually know, then doesn't it make sense they would have done some lab testing to find out this info??


that's kinda opening that "bad" door again because as far as I know...they have dna from all the anthonys.....I wonder if they got Mark Hawkings dna when they went to California?

[Mamie]

Guest on GVS just said that Kronk is not able to go out and read meters anymore. They have moved him to an inside job. Also said there were two other people with him on the first day he was out on Aug. 11Didn't call until he was home that night.

Dr. Baden saying if body was disposed of in June, because of the hot weather, the body would have decomposed much faster until the rain came. He also said they know who the father is from the DNA. (I don't think so.)

JMO


Why don't you think so? Just curious.

[Neffy]

Dr. Baden just said they know who the father is on Greta.....that's new isnt it?

Uh huh. The whole truth and nothing but the truth. :cool:

Casey or did Cindy tell him what Casey told her?

[playnice]

I believe LE and or the Pros. knows..IMO

Baez aha moment?

[kitty1182]

They would have to have the fathers DNA to know that.

Correct...They must have it...I think they know who he is..imo

[Janz]

And yet they cling to that completely unbelievable fantasy. They may not be bright, but boy are they determined.

Determined is right, but why so determined?? What other truth are they hiding? Will we ever know the full story?

[True2Blues]

Thanks, Motomom and True2Blues. I saw the video about the emails. I misunderstood. I thought Cindy would be speaking on the news. Thanks!

That has to be coming one of these days.

[?noanswer]

Actually, I thought the Hopespring Gonzales was a renter?

Anyhoo, this stuff from other message boards about the significance of 4709 and 4701 and their owners/renters as it relates to Casey's ZFG lie and other lies, is really mucking up the works, imo.

I think you are right about the renter. In my attempt to clarify that I was not talking about the Hopespring address, I got confused. JMO

[Calla]

I agree. Occams razor.

Casey fought with Cindy the night of June 15th. She then left with Caylee & murdered her.

All the rest... smoke & mirrors. Cindy & George lying to authorities & withholding information... smoke & mirrors. Casey's 'kidnapping' story... smoke & mirrors.
Not so sure she left that night though after the fight...if the cell phone ping info I looked at is correct. All the activity was at or near her home that night. I dont think she stormed out as she had no where to go at that time because she could not take Caylee to her boyfriend's place
and I am quite sure that was not a new thing for them to have a fight or an argument.

I still think Caylee may have drowned in the pool on the 16th and everything else just went from there. Remember I said that. Oh nevermind..I know you will..LOL

[kitty1182]

Baez aha moment?



Don't know if he's gonna aha about it or not..lol

[mosey?]

I corrected myself, mosey. It is not ON Chickasaw, it's OFF Chickasaw. That house was the house in question we were all discussing and the owner's name had significance to this whole story.You mean Zenaida and Gonzales. I dont think either one of them is 8718 Brackenwood. They are 4701 and 4709 Hopespring, respectively. DC missed the mark. and so did ms. phychic.

[?noanswer]

Thanks, Motomom and True2Blues. I saw the video about the emails. I misunderstood. I thought Cindy would be speaking on the news. Thanks!

That is what was posted at first. You are not the only one who misunderstood. JMO

[playnice]

Don't know if he's gonna aha about it or not..lol

Lets just say I wonder if it will be used in Caseys defense?

[MrsHudson]

Well said! Well said.
And very, very sad. That poor, sweet, baby.

Thanks. We will see if there is any outrage at the "kidnappers" who murdered Caylee and framed Casey. I have not seen any thing like that so far, only petty fights and insult trading with Lois, making up a list of those not invited to the funeral and trying to get immunity to cover their butts. How utterly, abysmally, pathetic when by their reckoning Caylee's bones are still in the morgue and her kidnapper/murderer is still at large.

They will see the little support they had dwindle to nothing as they keep supporting the kidnapper story. And they can forget any plans of being missing children advocates. Obviously neither one of them "works well with others." Sooner or later anyone who tries to do business with them will get fed up and run a million miles away.

[steffaroob4]

there's also an 8718 Suburban...

I think the one on Brackenwood matches pictures that were taken of the scene.
click search by address (http://paarcgis.ocpafl.org/Webmap3/default.aspx)
You can even see the lattice.

[True2Blues]

Determined is right, but why so determined?? What other truth are they hiding? Will we ever know the full story?


They're hiding the truth about Casey murdering Caylee and the whole family chipping in to help hide it, I think.

I doubt the real story will ever come out. The only one who knows it is Casey and she seems incapable of telling the truth. I don't see any of the other A's being truthful about their part either. I think GA is too much of a coward, CA same as Casey when it comes to telling truth and Lee just makes my hair stand on end.

[mosey?]

I agree. Occams razor.

Casey fought with Cindy the night of June 15th. She then left with Caylee & murdered her.

All the rest... smoke & mirrors. Cindy & George lying to authorities & withholding information... smoke & mirrors. Casey's 'kidnapping' story... smoke & mirrors.The razor is only fitting to "Who murdered Caylee?" Occam would have thrown the rest out the window in frustration.

[Januarybaby]

Sounds to me like CA is using Caylees funeral as a source of power over people.

She has "disinvited" people that she knows have been trying to do everything in their power for Caylee except kiss G&C butt. If you dont cuddle up to the Anthonys, youre going to be disinvited. If you want to pay respects to the little girl everyone has come to love then you better agree with the Anthonys. She sure knows how to hurt people using that baby. Guess Casey inherited it.

That lessens the people that are going to be there and less people they would have to answer to.

[kitty1182]

Lets just say I wonder if it will be used in Caseys defense?



I think it would probally be used..imo

[?noanswer]

Why don't you think so? Just curious.

I'm not the one that said that. But my guess would be, that he is receiving so much flack about finding the body. Personally, I don't think he did anything wrong, but there are many posters on here that have spoken ill of him. Guess he runs into it in public. I can understand why people do not want to get involved and stop criminals anymore. JMO

[mosey?]

Baez aha moment?Baez's aHA moment will only be followed by "CHOO!"

gezuntheit

[happy2bme]

Lets just say I wonder if it will be used in Caseys defense?


PLAN B....imo

[Mamie]

You mean Zenaida and Gonzales. I dont think either one of them is 8718 Brackenwood. They are 4701 and 4709 Hopespring, respectively. DC missed the mark. and so did ms. phychic.

Since we're not supposed to post complete addresses and names, I'm gonna have to improvise here------there is another "G" owner and that supposedly is the one at Brackenwood. So yes, two "G's" in the area.

[steffaroob4]

Dr. Baden just said they know who the father is on Greta.....that's new isnt it?

He has been stuck on that for a while, I think he is getting old.

[MrsHudson]

Here ya go!

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155446.pdf

Awe thanks so much happy2bme!

[Janz]

They're hiding the truth about Casey murdering Caylee and the whole family chipping in to help hide it, I think.

I doubt the real story will ever come out. The only one who knows it is Casey and she seems incapable of telling the truth. I don't see any of the other A's being truthful about their part either. I think GA is too much of a coward, CA same as Casey when it comes to telling truth and Lee just makes my hair stand on end.

Yeah, couldn`t agree more, True. Stranger and more evil people than I could ever imagine. MOO. I don`t think I want to know how much little Caylee suffered at murderous Casey`s hand......JMO.

[Mamie]

I'm not the one that said that. But my guess would be, that he is receiving so much flack about finding the body. Personally, I don't think he did anything wrong, but there are many posters on here that have spoken ill of him. Guess he runs into it in public. I can understand why people do not want to get involved and stop criminals anymore. JMO

Oh, I meant why don't you think so about Baden? He says they know who the father is but you don't think so.

[kitty1182]

He has been stuck on that for a while, I think he is getting old.


I think the Daddy is known now...imo

[SoggyBayou]

Visionary Lucas said after her dream[3ish a.m. 11/15/08] she called Sgt Allen and then DCasey?

She said Sgt Allen was not interested and then she called DCasey.

That means that 2 numbers should show up on her verizon bill on the 15th of Nov.

How did she know Sgt Allen's number and DCasey's number at 6ish Nov. 15?

Hinky meter is pegged.

IMO

[Pat]

He has been stuck on that for a while, I think he is getting old.

Has he actually said how they know?

Is he the only one saying this, or is there another source?

Baden is a blowhard.

Sorry...I simply do not respect the man at all.

[?noanswer]

Thanks. We will see if there is any outrage at the "kidnappers" who murdered Caylee and framed Casey. I have not seen any thing like that so far, only petty fights and insult trading with Lois, making up a list of those not invited to the funeral and trying to get immunity to cover their butts. How utterly, abysmally, pathetic when by their reckoning Caylee's bones are still in the morgue and her kidnapper/murderer is still at large.

They will see the little support they had dwindle to nothing as they keep supporting the kidnapper story. And they can forget any plans of being missing children advocates. Obviously neither one of them "works well with others." Sooner or later anyone who tries to do business with them will get fed up and run a million miles away.

The last thing that would be on my mind if I was in their situation would be sending out disinvites to a funeral. I have never heard of such in my life. If they have a private memorial, I can see inviting people, but disinviting .......... just blows my mind. JMO

[True2Blues]

yes, there's probably several in the area...

It's a pretty common name.

[playnice]

I think the Daddy is known now...imo

Yeah. interesting that of all the things to talk about he brings this up.

[True2Blues]

Has he actually said how they know?

Is he the only one saying this, or is there another source?

Baden is a blowhard.

Sorry...I simply do not respect the man at all.


I'll second that!

[mosey?]

Since we're not supposed to post complete addresses and names, I'm gonna have to improvise here------there is another "G" owner and that supposedly is the one at Brackenwood. So yes, two "G's" in the area.Oops. Didnt know. And I seeeee...

[kitty1182]

Yeah. interesting that of all the things to talk about he brings this up.




Bingo!!!!!!! :wink:

[steffaroob4]

What has my hinky meter going is that we have 2 psychics pulling people off the exact spot, you ask me the psychics are in the daisy chain.

[?noanswer]

Oh, I meant why don't you think so about Baden? He says they know who the father is but you don't think so.

Because they would have to have the father's dna and it has not come out anywhere that they have that or that they even know who to ask for dna. JMO

[Mamie]

Well goodnight everybody. I'm running out of places in my mental Rolodex to store things, so it must be time to call it a night. See ya tomorrow.

[True2Blues]

Yeah. interesting that of all the things to talk about he brings this up.

Misdirection probably.

[kitty1182]

Because they would have to have the father's dna and it has not come out anywhere that they have that or that they even know who to ask for dna. JMO

I don't think it will be let out right yet who he is, but I think they did get the dna from the daddy..imo

[Calla]

Yes. I will remember you said that. :)

I'm gonna go ahead & believe law enforcement has 'overwhelming evidence' that Casey intentionally killed Caylee & she did so alone.

And to clarify my previous post... I believe Casey left with Caylee right after the fight with Cindy or later that night when Cindy & George were asleep.

I don't believe for one second that Cindy 'tucked them both in' on the night of the 15th or that Cindy 'heard' them sleeping on the morning of the 16th or that George saw Casey & Caylee leave on the morning of the 16th.

Smoke & mirrors.
I do think george recalled seeing them leave and what they were wearing and carrying...just not that day.

As far as CIndy 'hearing' them sleep..I can't say.
I hear hubby "sleeping" all the time..as a matter of fact, his "sleeping" keeps me awake:mad:

I should believe she killed her intentionally, but I cannot completely buy it yet..I am back & forth on that. I stated earlier I believed she intentionally killed her. I did not lie. I believed it at the time.:tongue:

[MrsHudson]

I agree. Occams razor.

Casey fought with Cindy the night of June 15th. She then left with Caylee & murdered her.

All the rest... smoke & mirrors. Cindy & George lying to authorities & withholding information... smoke & mirrors. Casey's 'kidnapping' story... smoke & mirrors.

Yep that is all it really boils down too Landy.

[mosey?]

That house does not look abandoned to me.The Google satelitte image of my house is 4 years old. The picture could have been taken longer than a year ago, when they were in residence.

[steffaroob4]

Has he actually said how they know?

Is he the only one saying this, or is there another source?

Baden is a blowhard.

Sorry...I simply do not respect the man at all.

full of hot air, imo

[MrsHudson]

Dr. Baden just said they know who the father is on Greta.....that's new isnt it?

Nuh uh not new he's said that before. Why does he keep saying that I wonder??

[Pat]

I'm off myself. Wonder if we'll wake up to a headline reading:

Famous Dr. Baden Reveals Dead Tot's Daddy!!!



:tonguewag:

[Mamie]

Because they would have to have the father's dna and it has not come out anywhere that they have that or that they even know who to ask for dna. JMO


I'm betting they (LE) aren't telling everything they know. I just hope we find out MOST of the TRUTH in this whole mess. I know finding out ALL is too much to ask for so......even as much as I hate them to have immunity, I don't think we're getting the truth any other way. And there's probably no guarantee we'll see it that way either but we'll be closer giving it than not. JMO

[mosey?]

I don't think it will be let out right yet who he is, but I think they did get the dna from the daddy..imoI think Mark Hawkins is the dad, but dont think they'll ever reveal who it is, unless Casey says OK

[playnice]

Nuh uh not new he's said that before. Why does he keep saying that I wonder??

Must be important to the case?

[?noanswer]

The Google satelitte image of my house is 4 years old. The picture could have been taken longer than a year ago, when they were in residence.


These pictures were taken today.

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b1...t=House006.jpg
JMO

[MrsHudson]

I'm still sticking with my original theory that Casey's "you don't know what my involvement is?" was her attempt to sound outraged that her mother could dare imply that she had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance. As in: How can you even question my honesty?

Although given everything that has been happening with this screwy bunch, I could be persuaded that I am "absolutely" wrong about this.

Actually joolz you are prolly right.

[?noanswer]

I think Mark Hawkins is the dad, but dont think they'll ever reveal who it is, unless Casey says OK

One would think they would need the father's ok, rather than KC. JMO

[True2Blues]

Nuh uh not new he's said that before. Why does he keep saying that I wonder??


He's trying to sensationalize his appearance and make it sound like he knows something no one else does. He's performing for the camera.

[Calla]

Nite all
gonna go listen to hubby 'sleep'

[?noanswer]

He's trying to sensationalize his appearance and make it sound like he knows something no one else does. He's performing for the camera.


By jove, I think you are correct. How old is he anyway? JMO

[steffaroob4]

it does here...

http://www.wftv.com/video/18473137/index.html

8718 Brackenwood is the right house, as far as where D Casey was searching an "abandoned house"

that picture is a few years old, the only update those so often

[kitty1182]

One would think they would need the father's ok, rather than KC. JMO



If it has something to do with the case, maybe they won't need anyone's ok..Heck, I don't know..lol

[mosey?]

What has my hinky meter going is that we have 2 psychics pulling people off the exact spot, you ask me the psychics are in the daisy chain.If I was a psychic, I would have a friend videoing me searching in 100 places. When the person's found, I would destroy all tapes except the one in the right place.

"See I'm psychic!"

[MrsHudson]

I don't believe (at this point) Cindy or George had a thing to do with Caylee's death. That's on Casey and IMO she acted alone.

I also don't believe Cindy knew Caylee was dead when she first called 911. I think it is very likely she found out very shortly after.

The fact Cindy and George immediately started looking in the back yard and under the pavers indicates to me they were aware Casey was capable of fatally harming Caylee, either accidentally or deliberately.

IMO, Cindy has been covering for Casey since the beginning.

It will be interesting to see how Baez tries to twist the overwhelming circumstantial and forensic evidence.

Never forget...the LE arrested Casey for 1st degree murder before Caylee's body was ever found. They must have pretty strong evidence to have done this.

Pat you are correctomundo on all counts! :beer:

[happy2bme]

I think Mark Hawkins is the dad, but dont think they'll ever reveal who it is, unless Casey says OK

Really? So you think Casey was calling to tell him something (hey Caylee is yours, but I murdered her)important but in person only or do I have the date wrong with the phone call she made? So sorry if I do.:blushing:

[True2Blues]

By jove, I think you are correct. How old is he anyway? JMO

Old enough to behave better.

This says he was born in 1934, doesn't give a month, so depending on his birth date 74/75.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Baden

[mosey?]

One would think they would need the father's ok, rather than KC. JMOWould they tell the dad, if Casey wants it to remain secret? Or will all her rights be void at the (ulimate) conviction of murder?

I always wondered why LE flew to 49 Palms, rather than just do a phone interview with him.

[?noanswer]

that picture is a few years old, the only update those so often

Those are live pictures. The video was taken today while KB was on location. JMO

[kitty1182]

Those are live pictures. The video was taken today while KB was on location. JMO



That is correct...:smile:

[?noanswer]

Old enough to behave better.

This says he was born in 1934, doesn't give a month, so depending on his birth date 74/75.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Baden

He's the same age as my better half. He can't keep anything straight!!! JMO

[steffaroob4]

If I was a psychic, I would have a friend videoing me searching in 100 places. When the person's found, I would destroy all tapes except the one in the right place.

"See I'm psychic!"

Sshhhhh...don't tell ll GSJ's secrets.
friendly reminder, don't go on NG nd clear all the areas you searched, it can screw up your plan

[happy2bme]

There might be a daisy chain of just psychics....


sad, isn't it?

[MrsHudson]

I believe LE and or the Pros. knows..IMO

In order for them to know who Caylee's father was obviously they would need the father's DNA.


BUT


If Caylee was the product of incest they would know it based soley on Caylee's DNA because her DNA would have characteristics seen only in cases of incest.

So if Baden keeps saying they know who the father is either:

1. He is full of it.
2.. They have the father's DNA who wishes to remain anonymous.
3. ....bad bad bad.

[playnice]

In order for them to know who Caylee's father was obviously they would need the father's DNA.


BUT


If Caylee was the product of incest they would know it based soley on Caylee's DNA because her DNA would have characteristics seen only in cases of incest.

So if Baden keeps saying they know who the father is either:

1. He is full of it.
2.. They have the father's DNA who wishes to remain anonymous.
3. ....bad bad bad.

Dont worry mom. I havent said anything.

[enigma]

I've had a few encounter with those who passed mainly my father but I wouldn't say it was any physic ability.

Here's one theory. Cindy and Caylee visited her dad and mom on June 15th. Cindy and Caylee came home and went in the pool. Casey came home but Cindy stated Casey didn't go in the pool. George went off to work before hand. Cindy confronted Casey about stealing her fathers $$ and they both forgot about Caylee in the pool. Cindy and Casey made up the whole Nanny story, the kidnapping story.

Casey saying to Cindy "you don't know my involvement"? Cindy covers, cleans and washes all evidence etc., on and on with lies with both Cindy and Casey. It's all about Cindy and Casey. It's never about Caylee.

(bolding is mine) Very true that, IMO...

About the theory... I'm not sure about the timing... Cindy took Caylee to visit her father (Caylee's grandfather) at the nursing home. Then, presumably, Cindy also took Caylee to visit her mother and the three of them had dinner there.

That would make it pretty late in the day. Would they go in the pool at that time? Because, according to the neighbours, it was quite late at night when they heard the argument in the A's house.

Also, if GA had already gone to work, does that mean he was working nights? I know he was doing that at one stage, but was he working nights at that particular time?

In the email Cindy wrote to Casey which was deleted but then recovered by LE from the computer, Cindy refers to the fact that George left for work in the morning and he had said that he returned home at 6.30 but didn't go home "in between". No date is mentioned in the email, but it seems to me that it was referring to 16 June, because that's the day when GA told LE he saw Caylee last (except he seems to have been... mistaken because he evidently told Cindy he wasn't home in the middle of the day)...

Does that make sense?

JMHO

[PolyGraph]

Nuh uh not new he's said that before. Why does he keep saying that I wonder?? what what what??? badensaid he knows who the father is??? where did you guys here this??? Ive been thinking its jp because she is a spitting image of him...but Im curious to see where you guys got that info...

[MrsHudson]

that's kinda opening that "bad" door again because as far as I know...they have dna from all the anthonys.....I wonder if they got Mark Hawkings dna when they went to California?

Was he the one she told she had something to tell him he would not believe or something like that?

[playnice]

Heck yeah...

A BS psychic story connected to Dominic Casey.

And of course Verizon screwed up jet again and the calls arent on her bill.

[steffaroob4]

Those are live pictures. The video was taken today while KB was on location. JMO

I was talking about the picture from the tax website I put up.

[MrsHudson]

They're hiding the truth about Casey murdering Caylee and the whole family chipping in to help hide it, I think.

I doubt the real story will ever come out. The only one who knows it is Casey and she seems incapable of telling the truth. I don't see any of the other A's being truthful about their part either. I think GA is too much of a coward, CA same as Casey when it comes to telling truth and Lee just makes my hair stand on end.

Good point. George is cowardly isn't he?

[enigma]

Guest on GVS just said that Kronk is not able to go out and read meters anymore. They have moved him to an inside job. Also said there were two other people with him on the first day he was out on Aug. 11Didn't call until he was home that night.

Dr. Baden saying if body was disposed of in June, because of the hot weather, the body would have decomposed much faster until the rain came. He also said they know who the father is from the DNA. (I don't think so.)

JMO

Yes, he did say that, and I wondred whether they actually know who the father is, as in they know of him. But I think he meant they know who the father is, as in they have the DNA of the person who fathered caylee, whoever that may be. Which of course they do.

JMHO

[kitty1182]

and of course verizon screwed up jet again and the calls arent on her bill.



lol..............

[happy2bme]

Heck yeah...

A BS psychic story connected to Dominic Casey.


Hmmm, me thinks the psychic needs to go and hold a local newspaper rather than Caylee's t-bear to see how this is gonna turn our for her. imo

[myownopera]

Good point. George is cowardly isn't he?

IMO, Mrs. Hudson, he looks like a "whipped puppie" -- I think that is exactly what he is cowardly!!!

MOO

[mosey?]

what what what??? badensaid he knows who the father is??? where did you guys here this??? Ive been thinking its jp because she is a spitting image of him...but Im curious to see where you guys got that info...I really dont think JP would have touched that with a 10 foot pole. From what I understand he didnt care for her too much. He had her pegged early

[enigma]

Dont worry mom. I havent said anything.

Yeah... there's that! :sneaky:

JMHO

[happy2bme]

Was he the one she told she had something to tell him he would not believe or something like that?


Sorry forgetting my dates here....but did she tell him this before or after she murdered Caylee?

[steffaroob4]

LOL, ok i was getting confused....i think all 3 of us are on the same page now, as far as the abandoned house....

Lol, I think we have been in agreement the whole time:thumbsup:

[playnice]

Sorry forgetting my dates here....but did she tell him this before or after she murdered Caylee?

after. I think she was trying to get him to send her a ticket out of Dodge. I see no reason to tell him he is the daddy after the fact.