Monday January 12 - Part II

[really3997]

Did I imagine this but did I read or hear that Lee moved back in with George & Cindy?

Yes he did

[Neffy]

Did I imagine this but did I read or hear that Lee moved back in with George & Cindy?

No imagination that happened allright.

[rambo55]

Here's a thought, maybe LE has leaked the 'Casey did it alone & it was no accident' to get Casey to confess: 'NO! It WAS an accident!'

I wish.
So we could stick a fork in her.
JMO

If only...

[~jomomma~]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live5pm6pm.html

thanks cury!!!

so, according to this report, it is NOT the same spot that caylee was found AND that DC is not saying who he was talking to on the phone but LE does know

[AJandTam]

Yes. I've been reading for the most part, until recently.

And I agree.

Joe.

:seeya: ya smiley J..

I am just reading too. Waiting for the next wave of thunder! Next one might be the real deal.. The trainwreck! Somethiing has to give, we've been going 100 miles an hour down hill for mos.

[desmom]

Kronk Shares New Details On Caylee's Remains

But on Monday, two sources said Casey said he was talking with a psychic who was telling him where to search along Suburban Drive. Investigators are reviewing that assertion.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18458831/detail.html


Does anyone tell the truth?

http://www.wftv.com/news/18458394/detail.html#-
At both locations, Mr. Casey was focused on groupings of concrete stones. He is seen talking on a cell phone throughout the tape and told Eyewitness News that he was talking to his sick daughter.

Maybe his sick daughter is a psychic. jmo

[?noanswer]

I think it was JB too..


If it is found out that it was JB, what do you think will happen to the "dream team"? JMO

[AJandTam]

Did I imagine this but did I read or hear that Lee moved back in with George & Cindy?

Hi Happy. No imagination required. This was reported recently...

[Neffy]

In other words, Casey probably doesn't know who it is? :blink:

Either that or she has a few guesses and Cindy doesn't want a Jerry Springer show to be made of it.

I don't believe the father is aware. Why she chose Jessie when that wasn't in the realm of possiblity according to why he even took the DNA test per his family is beyond me.

[5boxersmom]

Does anyone tell the truth?

http://www.wftv.com/news/18458394/detail.html#-
At both locations, Mr. Casey was focused on groupings of concrete stones. He is seen talking on a cell phone throughout the tape and told Eyewitness News that he was talking to his sick daughter.

Maybe his sick daughter is a psychic. jmo

I still think some pavers are missing from the Anthony's backyard and were put in or on the bag to keep it underwater.

jmo

[smileyjoe]

:seeya: ya smiley J..

I am just reading too. Waiting for the next wave of thunder! Next one might be the real deal.. The trainwreck! Somethiing has to give, we've been going 100 miles an hour down hill for mos.


Hi ya. THATS the truth.

Its been hard to separate truth from fiction for months now.

Doesn't look like it's getting any easier lately.

Will we have to wait for trial for the truth?

The way things have been progressing, I think we probably will.

And that is sad.


Joe.

[Neffy]

Does anyone tell the truth?

http://www.wftv.com/news/18458394/detail.html#-
At both locations, Mr. Casey was focused on groupings of concrete stones. He is seen talking on a cell phone throughout the tape and told Eyewitness News that he was talking to his sick daughter.

Maybe his sick daughter is a psychic. jmo

OH no that't right.!

These people are such a piece of work!

They get so upset when they get dragged thru the mud and they bring it all on themselves. They have absolutely no credibilty. None of them.

I honestly think they would all sponteously combust if just one told the truth.

[SavannahStar]

I bet the judge will have to appoint a personal representative to handle Caylee's estate, with all the book and movie deals being offered an impartial attorney will have to handle this estate IMO. I hope most of it is awarded to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, in Caylees name.


Wouldn't that have to be at someone's request though? And we know of no book and movie deals (that are confirmed). I can't recall in other cases where a personal representative of a murdered person was appointed out of the clear blue because there were any books written about the case.

[AJandTam]

If it is found out that it was JB, what do you think will happen to the "dream team"? JMO

The dream team will be missing a weak link??? ((((((( ducking now)))))

[desmom]

Kathy Belich caught LA attorney in a mistruth...The Attorney said he saw that tape last week..That was a beatiful picture

I just saw the story at http://www.wftv.com/news/18464944/detail.html

Lawyer Says Lee Denied He Was On Phone With P.I.


Luka said he saw it last week and talked to Dominic Casey about it. Then he backtracked.

"How did you see it last week? Who showed it to you last week?" Belich asked Luka.

"Well, I take that back," Luka said. "I was not shown it. When it was on TV I saw it."

"Well, it wasn't on TV until last night," Belich told Luka.

"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw," he said.

Dominic Casey previously told Eyewitness News he was at the scene in November to rule out the possibility that Caylee's remains could be there. Then he said he was there to rule out that the area was a teen hangout years ago. Lee's attorney, though, told Eyewitness News that Dominic Casey told him he was there to rule out a psychic's tip.

[Mimi428]

Then Cindy said to Greta that he was killed in the beginning of last year. Then friends have said the name Brandon and others have said the name Eric. hammer

jmo

Exactly. This is one area that I wish will be cleared up with DNA. I can see how it is not our business & that the news could be a terrible shock to some dude, somewhere. But it would be nice to put a stop to some of the speculations by finding out for certain who the sperm donor was.

JMO

[kitty1182]

If it is found out that it was JB, what do you think will happen to the "dream team"? JMO



Gosh, I have no clue..

[AJandTam]

Hi ya. THATS the truth.

Its been hard to separate truth from fiction for months now.

Doesn't look like it's getting any easier lately.

Will we have to wait for trial for the truth?

The way things have been progressing, I think we probably will.

And that is sad.


Joe.

Hey Joe, at the rate we are going. The lawyers might confess for thier clients before it's over with... LOL.

[Dogmatic]

Disgusting isn't she? Who could be sitting in a cell knowing the person is out there that reduced your child to a bag of bones is free? If she wasn't responsible, she would be knocking down walls trying to get the "nannys" description out there.She
STILL hasnt asked for the kidnapper to come forward.

Casey doesn't think out her lies past the moment.

Initially, we were led to believe that she couldn't expose the Nanny because she had been handed a script and she feared for her daughters life and the lives of her family.

But now that Caylee is dead, there would be nothing stopping her from singing like a canary to catch the killers of her child.

Bottom line: She's busted. She knows she is. The world sees through her lies, and her only hope now is that the LE team made a mistake that will allow her lawyers to exclude evidence from trial so that she can get off on reasonable doubt.

[really3997]

Ok i just heard Fox state there are actually 3 tapes 2 were given to LE on 12/18 and the last one he just found...I am sooooo confused anyone

[playnice]

I just saw the story at http://www.wftv.com/news/18464944/detail.html

Lawyer Says Lee Denied He Was On Phone With P.I.


Luka said he saw it last week and talked to Dominic Casey about it. Then he backtracked.

"How did you see it last week? Who showed it to you last week?" Belich asked Luka.

"Well, I take that back," Luka said. "I was not shown it. When it was on TV I saw it."

"Well, it wasn't on TV until last night," Belich told Luka.

"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw," he said.

Dominic Casey previously told Eyewitness News he was at the scene in November to rule out the possibility that Caylee's remains could be there. Then he said he was there to rule out that the area was a teen hangout years ago. Lee's attorney, though, told Eyewitness News that Dominic Casey told him he was there to rule out a psychic's tip.
He doeth protest too much. Doesnt matter . LE WILL find out exactly who DC was talking to.

[Calla]

Does anyone tell the truth?

http://www.wftv.com/news/18458394/detail.html#-
At both locations, Mr. Casey was focused on groupings of concrete stones. He is seen talking on a cell phone throughout the tape and told Eyewitness News that he was talking to his sick daughter.

Maybe his sick daughter is a psychic. jmo

Maybe he said "psychic" daughter instead of "sick" and was misunderstood

[kitty1182]

Ok i just heard Fox state there are actually 3 tapes 2 were given to LE on 12/18 and the last one he just found...I am sooooo confused anyone

My goodness!!!!!!!!

[Cury-us Coyote]

thanks cury!!!

so, according to this report, it is NOT the same spot that caylee was found AND that DC is not saying who he was talking to on the phone but LE does know

IIRC, Holly Bristrol Fox 35 reported per Hoover the abandoned house is allegedly on Suburban Dr 200 yards from discovery site. Apparently Hoover and D Casey agree the wooded area searched focused upon a location 150 - 200 feet from the discovery site. Reportedly Hoover originally had 3 tapes (2 submitted to LE 12/18 and 1 submitted last week).

Jacim of Fox reported according to Conway, A's considering cremation, location & permanancy important factors.
jmo until clarifying link released.

[really3997]

Exactly. This is one area that I wish will be cleared up with DNA. I can see how it is not our business & that the news could be a terrible shock to some dude, somewhere. But it would be nice to put a stop to some of the speculations by finding out for certain who the sperm donor was.

JMO

I am going to say as soon as a lot money starts rolling in a long line of men will want to know if they are the father. JMO

[forensicnut]

Maybe he said "psychic" daughter instead of "sick" and was misunderstood Oh...good catch. I'll bet you hit the nail on the head with that one!

[JHP]

Did I imagine this but did I read or hear that Lee moved back in with George & Cindy?

They are one big happy family:biggrin:

[Rayosunshine]

Question: If the Anthony's own the tape, is their ownership because the PI was working for them, or did they give him specific instructions on where to tape and when to do so?

I thin LE ought to just lock all of the family up until they tell the truth. These people are playing games, it is getting sicker by the day.

[legalmania]

Wouldn't that have to be at someone's request though? And we know of no book and movie deals (that are confirmed). I can't recall in other cases where a personal representative of a murdered person was appointed out of the clear blue because there were any books written about the case.

It would have to be done through family law. A judge requests it. It doesn't have to be an attorney. She was a minor intestate. It's just my opinion but if their selling her pictures I'm sure there will be books written and a possible movie.

[Neffy]

I am going to say as soon as a lot money starts rolling in a long line of men will want to know if they are the father. JMO

I dont agree with this at all.

I wish that someone would be able to step up to remove this child from this circus and give her a proper burial.

They can stick any money you know where. It'll expose them all for what they are as I believe they would still be fighting over it more then Caylee.

[Mimi428]

I am going to say as soon as a lot money starts rolling in a long line of men will want to know if they are the father. JMO

I think you could be right about that. This whole horrible case is so full of predators & vultures circling around, just waiting for their moment to strike & get the bucks, it is sickening.

JMO

[dixielover]

Gosh, I have no clue..

If it is JB, they better bring in the dream team to start the plea deal process- only one person could tell him where the body was. imo

[rambo55]

Casey doesn't think out her lies past the moment.

Initially, we were led to believe that she couldn't expose the Nanny because she had been handed a script and she feared for her daughters life and the lives of her family.

But now that Caylee is dead, there would be nothing stopping her from singing like a canary to catch the killers of her child.

Bottom line: She's busted. She knows she is. The world sees through her lies, and her only hope now is that the LE team made a mistake that will allow her lawyers to exclude evidence from trial so that she can get off on reasonable doubt.


Dog,

I Hope her jury sees he as she really is.

[SavannahStar]

It would have to be done through family law. A judge requests it. It doesn't have to be an attorney. She was a minor a intestate. It's just my opinion but if their selling her pictures I'm sure there will be books written and a possible movie.


I guess that's maybe where we differ, I've not been convinced "they are selling her pictures." I have a feeling it has been Casey/Baez all along, for her defense. And at any rate I'm not so sure a judge would step in, even if it were the Anthonys. If they have received a licensing fee for photos I'm not at all certain that a judge would feel that was "irregular" to the point of going through a whole bunch of legal wrangling in order to give a portion of the money to an unknown father. And as far as a book.....well we won't know about that until it happens.

[kitty1182]

If it is JB, they better bring in the dream team to start the plea deal process- only one person could tell him where the body was. imo



So true:wink:

[Mimi428]

I dont agree with this at all.

I wish that someone would be able to step up to remove this child from this circus and give her a proper burial.

They can stick any money you know where. It'll expose them all for what they are as I believe they would still be fighting over it more then Caylee.

As long as Baez has the final say on what can be done with Caylee's remains, I don't know what anyone else can do about it.

I think the circus is going to be in town for quite awhile yet - & the shame of it is there are so many elephants & they all seem to have a ripping case of dysentery.

JMO

[bchand]

I can't believe it!

Bahahhahahaha.

I'd be quaken in my boots if I were Lee with this guy defending me on possible osbstruction charges. Hope he didn't make that up to!

Just back from dinner/dishes etc. and watched the video with Kathi Belich. I am really surprised she didn't follow up when Lee's attorney finally had to say it wasn't THAT video he saw.

Well which video DID he see?

[BobbisAngel]

Does the A's know this? If so, wonder what their response is. JMO

I do know that a author who writes crime novels is planning to write a book. Her name is Diane Fanning.

[Lavenia]

As long as Baez has the final say on what can be done with Caylee's remains, I don't know what anyone else can do about it.

I think the circus is going to be in town for quite awhile yet - & the shame of it is there are so many elephants & they all seem to have a ripping case of dysentery.

JMO

:lol::lol: You are too funny! (and damn smart I might add!)

[smileyjoe]

Just back from dinner/dishes etc. and watched the video with Kathi Belich. I am really surprised she didn't follow up when Lee's attorney finally had to say it wasn't THAT video he saw.

Well which video DID he see?

Good question.

Joe.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Investigators reviewing tape of woods where Caylee Marie Anthony is found

Hoover and his attorney met with FBI and Sheriff's Office investigators last week to discuss and hand over the tape.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-investigators-video-011209,0,6637379.story

[BobbisAngel]

IMO this is going to be a LONG, LONG trial once it starts. It will probably be a long time before it ever starts.. I was hoping it would start soon but I don't see that happening..The arguments will start soon over a COV..


From what I understand the trial is still set for March but you can bet that the defense will throw a kink in that date. They haven't asked for a change of venue yet and I'm sure they will find several ways to delay...delay...delay...as they are well known for delaying a trial for months and months. I hope it does happen in March but am not holding my breath.

[Cury-us Coyote]

WESH 2 Video

Sources: Dominic Casey Talking With Psychic 2:13
http://www.wesh.com/video/18464709/index.html

[Ladyhawk]

Just back from dinner/dishes etc. and watched the video with Kathi Belich. I am really surprised she didn't follow up when Lee's attorney finally had to say it wasn't THAT video he saw.

Well which video DID he see?

I'm glad she didn't follow up with it and give him a chance to confuse a listener with another lie, one that couldn't be verified.....the lasting impression I have of this man is his admitting he didn't see the video...he's a liar. Am I going to believe anything he says...nope. That was all she needed to do to expose him. WTG Kathy!

[shelbar53]

the spokesman: did not say what he said

George: dead body in trunk not his granddaughter

lee's lawyer: I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw

:laugh:

[n/t]

I just saw the story at http://www.wftv.com/news/18464944/detail.html

Lawyer Says Lee Denied He Was On Phone With P.I.


Luka said he saw it last week and talked to Dominic Casey about it. Then he backtracked.

"How did you see it last week? Who showed it to you last week?" Belich asked Luka.

"Well, I take that back," Luka said. "I was not shown it. When it was on TV I saw it."

"Well, it wasn't on TV until last night," Belich told Luka.

"Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw," he said.

Dominic Casey previously told Eyewitness News he was at the scene in November to rule out the possibility that Caylee's remains could be there. Then he said he was there to rule out that the area was a teen hangout years ago. Lee's attorney, though, told Eyewitness News that Dominic Casey told him he was there to rule out a psychic's tip.


Even their lawyers lie! :scared:

[cassidy]

Just back from dinner/dishes etc. and watched the video with Kathi Belich. I am really surprised she didn't follow up when Lee's attorney finally had to say it wasn't THAT video he saw.

Well which video DID he see?

I'm glad you noticed that slip too. I was wondering why she didn[t ask him what video he saw also.

[ConchGirl]

Even their lawyers lie! :scared:

As another poster stated earlier even the lawyers will need lawyers before this is over. :laugh:

[bchand]

I'm glad she didn't follow up with it and give him a chance to confuse a listener with another lie, one that couldn't be verified.....the lasting impression I have of this man is his admitting he didn't see the video...he's a liar. Am I going to believe anything he says...nope. That was all she needed to do to expose him. WTG Kathy!

Excellent point Ladyhawk.

[happy2bme]

Hi Happy. No imagination required. This was reported recently...


Hello to you too!

Do we know why he moved back home?

[daHawg]

WESH 2 Video

Sources: Dominic Casey Talking With Psychic 2:13
http://www.wesh.com/video/18464709/index.html
And last week D.Casey said he was only talking on the phone to his sick daughter too. I don't buy any of this now he was talking to psychics. Nope. :sneaky:

[Neffy]

Investigators reviewing tape of woods where Caylee Marie Anthony is found

Hoover and his attorney met with FBI and Sheriff's Office investigators last week to discuss and hand over the tape.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-investigators-video-011209,0,6637379.story

"Hoover, who used to work for George and Cindy Anthony, said the tape, which is about 10 minutes,"

No way did they cover those woods in 10 minutes. Even 3 tapes at 10minutes each. As I said yesterday he went to a deliberate spot being given directives. I don't believe it was a psychic, ill daughter who happens to be a friend of Casey's named Kio (did I get the whole story correct).

Add another spin the psychic says something about CASEY coming out of those woods. I thought it was a tip about seeing Caseys car.

This just looks really bad for the defense as well as the Anthony's.


What a mockery they have made out of this.

[cassidy]

I'm glad she didn't follow up with it and give him a chance to confuse a listener with another lie, one that couldn't be verified.....the lasting impression I have of this man is his admitting he didn't see the video...he's a liar. Am I going to believe anything he says...nope. That was all she needed to do to expose him. WTG Kathy!
Good point!

[shelbar53]

I wonder if NG will say anything about Lee's attorney.

When is the next court date?

january, email me..look at my stats and use hotmail

[really3997]

Hello to you too!

Do we know why he moved back home?

end of December begin of January

[ConchGirl]

Hello to you too!

Do we know why he moved back home?

Lawyer bills mounting up :shrug:

[AJandTam]

Hello to you too!

Do we know why he moved back home?

Not as I have heard Happy. I was guessing financial as this lawyer business is awfully expensive..

[?noanswer]

Ok i just heard Fox state there are actually 3 tapes 2 were given to LE on 12/18 and the last one he just found...I am sooooo confused anyone


That makes sense - 3 phones, 3 tapes. A tape for each phone. NOT. It was also stated that the tapes had been taped over. Guess the liars club just got a few more members these last few days!!! JMO

[CelticDawn]

Even their lawyers lie! :scared:


LOL They don't LIE, dear, they just either misspeak, are mistaken, find new information that conflicts with the last facts they relayed, have a question about the definition of said activity, or just plain old can't get it right. :rofl:

[CANDYKISSES]

I think Casey thought Cindy was going to massively freak out over her being pregnant, I think Kio could have been her backup plan if her mother actually disowned her and kicked her out of the house for having sex, which I think thats exactly what Casey thought.

jmo


Wow, JUST WOW MAL, you really believe that story? :closedeyes:

[trich]

"Hoover, who used to work for George and Cindy Anthony, said the tape, which is about 10 minutes,"

No way did they cover those woods in 10 minutes. Even 3 tapes at 10minutes each. As I said yesterday he went to a deliberate spot being given directives. I don't believe it was a psychic, ill daughter who happens to be a friend of Casey's named Kio (did I get the whole story correct).

Add another spin the psychic says something about CASEY coming out of those woods. I thought it was a tip about seeing Caseys car.

This just looks really bad for the defense as well as the Anthony's.


What a mockery they have made out of this.


Seems like the LE could get a record of his cell phone calls and verify who he was talking to....

[daHawg]

Hello to you too!

Do we know why he moved back home?
Maybe to clean out his house before a search warrant got served?:glare: j/k (sorta)

[shelbar53]

I don't understand these ppl that put money in her account.

Totally insane IMO

A total of $40, she is spending it faster than its coming in, she is under $300. I wonder if mom or dad will add more and why hasent baez kicked in a few bucks?

[legalmania]

I guess that's maybe where we differ, I've not been convinced "they are selling her pictures." I have a feeling it has been Casey/Baez all along, for her defense. And at any rate I'm not so sure a judge would step in, even if it were the Anthonys. If they have received a licensing fee for photos I'm not at all certain that a judge would feel that was "irregular" to the point of going through a whole bunch of legal wrangling in order to give a portion of the money to an unknown father. And as far as a book.....well we won't know about that until it happens.

Sorry I lost power for a moment. I really feel the judge would have no choice if an estate is making money and it's intestate he has to appoint a personal representative. They have to follow probate rules. Look what ANS estate went through, I'm sure the judge wants to know if the father is alive, as a matter of fact it's his job to make sure he follows the law.

[nc1948]

TY. That is what I wondered. Not that I believe Casey but there may be a half sibling out there.

jmo



But, But , But, :seeya: raising hand to ask a question. Casey has not been convicted of anything yet. Caylee is dead now. So why would Casey not inherit all now and use for defense fund. What is Casey were to not be convicted and the money had been given to the grandparents?

[really3997]

Hello to you too!

Do we know why he moved back home?

Apparently I am getting crossed eyed I thought you asked when not why. My guess is what has been stated when he first moved. They had to get their story straight about a video that they owned but didn't have... Note to the Anthony's it didn't work JMO

[shelbar53]

LOL They don't LIE, dear, they just either misspeak, are mistaken, find new information that conflicts with the last facts they relayed, have a question about the definition of said activity, or just plain old can't get it right. :rofl:

I guess the A's need to remain in hiding until they have their story straight.

[SavannahStar]

Sorry I lost power for a moment. I really feel the judge would have no choice if an estate is making money and it's intestate he has to appoint a personal representative. They have to follow probate rules. Look what ANS estate went through, I'm sure the judge wants to know if the father is alive, as a matter of fact it's his job to make sure he follows the law.


Well I'll believe it when I see it happen. We'll see.

[bchand]

But, But , But, :seeya: raising hand to ask a question. Casey has not been convicted of anything yet. Caylee is dead now. So why would Casey not inherit all now and use for defense fund. What is Casey were to not be convicted and the money had been given to the grandparents?

Surely you jest nc1948. (j/k j/k)

If it WERE her money, it would have all been spent on lawyers, experts, etc. anyway.

[?noanswer]

From what I understand the trial is still set for March but you can bet that the defense will throw a kink in that date. They haven't asked for a change of venue yet and I'm sure they will find several ways to delay...delay...delay...as they are well known for delaying a trial for months and months. I hope it does happen in March but am not holding my breath.

I had been thinking it was for March, but other posters said there has not been a date set. I didn't believe it would take place in March, even before I found out no date had been set. JMO

[really3997]

I guess the A's need to remain in hiding until they have their story straight.

well at this rate...

[SavannahStar]

But, But , But, :seeya: raising hand to ask a question. Casey has not been convicted of anything yet. Caylee is dead now. So why would Casey not inherit all now and use for defense fund. What is Casey were to not be convicted and the money had been given to the grandparents?


Whatever money may have already come in, I believe IS being used for her defense. I think Baez saw to that.

[Pruddennce]

I don't for a minute believe Casey knew who the father was/is.
Jessie claimed she said it was a one night stand.
After he found out he was not the father.
I think he has been the only honest person in this whole sad situation.
He was also willing to accept responsibility for Caylee but Casey nixed that
idea and decided she did not want him for a husband or a father for Caylee.

IMO, her mother also had a hand in it.

I think the 'big surprise' will be Mark Hawkins. where is his statement? And Annie's?

and Im still awaiting the release of the August 14th family jailhouse visit.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[ConchGirl]

Hello to you too!

Do we know why he moved back home?

So LE can't trace their phone calls, emails, etc. OR he's worried about his parents and he's on suicide watch. moo

[happygert]

I guess the A's need to remain in hiding until they have their story straight.

All under one roof now......Well except for one... Flash cards come in handy...

[trich]

[QUOTE=legalmania;12647180]Sorry I lost power for a moment. I really feel the judge would have no choice if an estate is making money and it's intestate he has to appoint a personal representative. They have to follow probate rules. Look what ANS estate went through, I'm sure the judge wants to know if the father is alive, as a matter of fact it's his job to make sure he follows the law.[/QUOTE

i don't think Caylee has an estate .
According to this deffinition:

Minor's Estate. This is an estate which is created when a minor (someone under the age of 18) inherits or receives substantial assets. Sometimes, these estates are created when one or both parents die. Sometimes they are created when a grandparent or other relative dies and the child inherits substantial funds. In other instances, such as when a child has been seriously injured in a personal injury accident, the estate is created to ensure that the child's assets are protected until he or she reaches the age of 18.

[legalmania]

Hello to you too!

Do we know why he moved back home?

I think his parents have to be scared. Even though Lee is not the biggest guy around he would not forgive himself if something happened to them and he wasn't there.

[Neffy]

Not as I have heard Happy. I was guessing financial as this lawyer business is awfully expensive..

The bucks running thru these hands has got to be astronomical!

Pro Bono my butt.

[CelticDawn]

But, But , But, :seeya: raising hand to ask a question. Casey has not been convicted of anything yet. Caylee is dead now. So why would Casey not inherit all now and use for defense fund. What is Casey were to not be convicted and the money had been given to the grandparents?

Sad....but Caylees estate until shes convicted ..and maybe after<depends on state laws > goes to casey... UNLESS there is some state law barring hr from benefitting from the death of her ALLEGED victim <which Legally...until she is convicted she is an alleged victim>....

I would think that if by siome TIME WARP or demonic intervention she isnt convicted....if the monies have gone to the anthonys...they would be liable and responsible for paying her back....as sickening as it is....IMO She still has rights to it.

[happygert]

A total of $40, she is spending it faster than its coming in, she is under $300. I wonder if mom or dad will add more and why hasent baez kicked in a few bucks?

Dang I want to see the list........wan wan wan....:crying:

[kOOkie1]

I guess the A's need to remain in hiding until they have their story straight.

LOL shelbar aint that the truth!!:bored:

[CANDYKISSES]

Is it true that LP said that when Caylee's father's name is revealed that it would "shock the world"?

Why yes he did, but we could probably take that one of two ways IMOO. :scared:

Add to that the idea LP doesn't seem to be on top of his information gallery lately IMO. :huh:

[Pruddennce]

So LE can't trace their phone calls, emails, etc. OR he's worried about his parents and he's on suicide watch. moo


My question: has Lee's house been searched? He lives 5 minutes away from his parents' home.

He stopped cooperating and refused to voluntarily give up fingerprints and his DNA. He was court ordered.

best regards,
Pru

[Calla]

So LE can't trace their phone calls, emails, etc. OR he's worried about his parents and he's on suicide watch. moo

I think either / or...or both

I know if my parents were in the position they are, I would be right by their side

[Ladyhawk]

I don't understand these ppl that put money in her account.

Totally insane IMO

I believe these are people who have an aversion to yucky mayo and coleslaw and they feel a solidarity with PPOF and her distaste for the same. In the name of solidarity they will send her money so she can skip what she doesn't like and still not starve before her trial.

[happy2bme]

Apparently I am getting crossed eyed I thought you asked when not why. My guess is what has been stated when he first moved. They had to get their story straight about a video that they owned but didn't have... Note to the Anthony's it didn't work JMO


LOL...Obviously this family, PI and a couple of lawyers' mothers never told them the story about ...THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF.

Good Grief, last time I saw so many lies I was watching Jim Carey in LIAR, LIAR.

[n/t]

And last week D.Casey said he was only talking on the phone to his sick daughter too. I don't buy any of this now he was talking to psychics. Nope. :sneaky:

I don't buy it either ...when was Gale St. John (is that her name?) in that area?

Was it about the same time? I can't remember.

[SavannahStar]

I think his parents have to be scared. Even though Lee is not the biggest guy around he would not forgive himself if something happened to them and he wasn't there.

You may be right; that's a good thought.

[daHawg]

I don't buy it either ...when was Gale St. John (is that her name?) in that area?

Was it about the same time? I can't remember.About the same time Kronk was there in August.

[?noanswer]

My question: has Lee's house been searched? He lives 5 minutes away from his parents' home.

He stopped cooperating and refused to voluntarily give up fingerprints and his DNA. He was court ordered.

best regards,
Pru


1st statement - Not anymore. According to reports, he has moved in with G&C. JMO

[really3997]

I don't buy it either ...when was Gale St. John (is that her name?) in that area?

Was it about the same time? I can't remember.

Actually I saw the spot she was at it was down a little further

[n/t]

My question: has Lee's house been searched? He lives 5 minutes away from his parents' home.

He stopped cooperating and refused to voluntarily give up fingerprints and his DNA. He was court ordered.

best regards,
Pru

None that we're aware of. Odd isn't it? Many of us who first found out he lived just around the corner per se, were quite shocked that his place wasn't searched. I think that was a big mistake on LE's part but I guess they had nothing on him at the time to warrant a search.

I wonder if they do now?

[Tracian]

But, But , But, :seeya: raising hand to ask a question. Casey has not been convicted of anything yet. Caylee is dead now. So why would Casey not inherit all now and use for defense fund. What is Casey were to not be convicted and the money had been given to the grandparents?


Casey is not out to make any deals...IMO, if money is being made it is used two-fold...some is going to Casey's defense, and some to support the A's...it seems hard to believe that they have been able to keep up with all their bills for six months without any form of income, or reduced income, in the way of a portion of their salaries from the companies they worked for...in this economy, IMO, companies in general cannot afford to pay people if they are not working.

The A's testified at the bail hearing that they were of modest means and couldn't use their house as collateral for bail...then suddenly, they sign a note to secure part of it?

Money is coming from somewhere, and reports have been offered that it comes from Caylee's photos among other things.

[commonguymd]

1st statement - Not anymore. According to reports, he has moved in with G&C. JMO

He has moved in with mom and dad. That has been widely reported. What has not been reported is local people saying that LE took the carpet cleaners bags/cleaning equipment and other assorted stuff left outside his home when he moved. He just had the carpets cleaned. It has been said Casey had access to his house. jmo

[breezie]

Kronk Shares New Details On Caylee's Remains

But on Monday, two sources said Casey said he was talking with a psychic who was telling him where to search along Suburban Drive. Investigators are reviewing that assertion.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18458831/detail.html

so was it your daughter or a psychic, DC? That conflictingstoryitis is spreading in FL!

[n/t]

Actually I saw the spot she was at it was down a little further

Yes she was but we don't know where DC and Hoover were searching either, do we? I was at work so I may have missed it if it was reported today.

This morning when I was online nothing was confirmed yet.

[happygert]

My question: has Lee's house been searched? He lives 5 minutes away from his parents' home.

He stopped cooperating and refused to voluntarily give up fingerprints and his DNA. He was court ordered.

best regards,
Pru

I asked that same question Pru.. I don't think it was.

[?noanswer]

He has moved in with mom and dad. That has been widely reported. What has not been reported is local people saying that LE took the carpet cleaners bags/cleaning equipment and other assorted stuff left outside his home when he moved. He just had the carpets cleaned. It has been said Casey had access to his house. jmo


I had not heard that, but it does not surprise me. Anything on the curb is fair game. Bet the neighbors didn't waste any time nofifying LE. JMO

[Motomom]

It would have to be done through family law. A judge requests it. It doesn't have to be an attorney. She was a minor intestate. It's just my opinion but if their selling her pictures I'm sure there will be books written and a possible movie.

She doesn't have an estate though I don't think. She was 2, all she could have had was life insurance or maybe some money in a savings account. I'm not following this estate thing. She can't make any money now..she isnt tupac..Or am I misunderstanding something?

[really3997]

Yes she was but we don't know where DC and Hoover were searching either, do we? I was at work so I may have missed it if it was reported today.

This morning when I was online nothing was confirmed yet.

According to Fox he was even a bit further down. But again its FOX

[?noanswer]

Yes she was but we don't know where DC and Hoover were searching either, do we? I was at work so I may have missed it if it was reported today.

This morning when I was online nothing was confirmed yet.

Check the links thread. There are quite a few. IIRC, one said it was not the exact spot where Caylee was found. JMO

[Motomom]

I dont agree with this at all.

I wish that someone would be able to step up to remove this child from this circus and give her a proper burial.

They can stick any money you know where. It'll expose them all for what they are as I believe they would still be fighting over it more then Caylee.


Sounds like as soon as Baez signs off that he is done with her remains, there will be a funeral.. so whos holding who up?

[n/t]

He has moved in with mom and dad. That has been widely reported. What has not been reported is local people saying that LE took the carpet cleaners bags/cleaning equipment and other assorted stuff left outside his home when he moved. He just had the carpets cleaned. It has been said Casey had access to his house. jmo


Really? Wow ..this is new to me. He had the carpets cleaned and Casey had access? When was this reported? Do you have a link or a possible date when this was reported so I can google?

You or anyone?

[myownopera]

I hope they are only trying to keep her alive until trial because they want justice for Caylee.


My hope as well!!!:thumbsup:

MOO

[smileyjoe]

My question: has Lee's house been searched? He lives 5 minutes away from his parents' home.

He stopped cooperating and refused to voluntarily give up fingerprints and his DNA. He was court ordered.

best regards,
Pru

This has bothered me since I saw the photos of the trash left behind after Lee moved out and into his parents home.

Five minutes away.

Apparently, there was no evidence that LE had that brought them to Lee's address after finding the remains, BUT, they wouldn't would they? No one had ever processed Lee's home in regard to the case.

jmo.

Joe.

[happygert]

Curry posted this link earlier. It's at the bottom of the page.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18458831/detail.html

Thanks,,,,, I want to see the list whos donating i seen one once that told who was donating to her account and how much....lol

[?noanswer]

Really? Wow ..this is new to me. He had the carpets cleaned and Casey had access? When was this reported? Do you have a link or a possible date when this was reported so I can google?

You or anyone?


He moved out the last of Dec. I don't know when the infor about LE taking things was revealed. I think poster said it came from the neighbors. JMO

[n/t]

Check the links thread. There are quite a few. IIRC, one said it was not the exact spot where Caylee was found. JMO

I'm wondering if they DC and Hoover were checking where G St. John was. That was my question.
I know both weren't at where Caylee's remains were found.

[?noanswer]

I'm wondering if they DC and Hoover were checking where G St. John was. That was my question.
I know both weren't at where Caylee's remains were found.

I think it was at a different spot, but I could be wrong. JMO

[desmom]

I don't buy it either ...when was Gale St. John (is that her name?) in that area?

Was it about the same time? I can't remember.

August 11-12 http://www.wftv.com/irresistible/17166127/detail.html

[Calla]

JVM talking about Dom Casey..


question.. is it required that you say "Bombshell" and " Breaking News" to be on HLN?

[really3997]

Please tell me that blonde lady isnt on JV

[n/t]

He moved out the last of Dec. I don't know when the infor about LE taking things was revealed. I think poster said it came from the neighbors. JMO

oh ok Maybe that's why I missed it. I'm usually good with checking links thread before I post but if a poster said a neighbour said....I'll take that with a grain of salt.

I haven't heard anything being reported about that on any of the talk shows. I think it would be big news if LE checked Lee's place.

[CelticDawn]

1st statement - Not anymore. According to reports, he has moved in with G&C. JMO


It would be nice to know what if anything of evidentiary value may have been in Lees house.

It is possible...however that items were taken by LE and we dont know about it.....If anyone from the house went into those particular woods...the body recovery scene....there will be verifiable hermenes<sp> doesnt go away very fast either....and they may luck out and still find some evidence even now.

[happy2bme]

He moved out the last of Dec. I don't know when the infor about LE taking things was revealed. I think poster said it came from the neighbors. JMO


I have a questions for all of you 'ping' experts.

Since Lee lives close...say Casey left her parents home the night of the 15th and went to Lees. Would the tower she pinged from be the same one as the A's home?

Sorry but I am a little confused on how this works.

[rambo55]

I asked that same question Pru.. I don't think it was.

I am curious as well...And, I have asked many times - why have the A's not offered their prints, DNA etc. on a voluntary basis?

If you are innocent and want to prove it so LE can move on - why not? If your main goal is to find Caylee's killer...

[happygert]

Please tell me that blonde lady isnt on JV

No Jayne is not on...:thumbsup:

[n/t]

August 11-12 http://www.wftv.com/irresistible/17166127/detail.html

Thanks Des. You're an asset to this forum!!

Wonder if that's where they got the tip? Doubt it but who knows.:blink:

Going to watch JVM. God help me. LOL

[happygert]

I am curious as well...And, I have asked many times - why have the A's not offered their prints, DNA etc. on a voluntary basis?

If you are innocent and want to prove it so LE can move on - why not? If your main goal is to find Caylee's killer...

Exactly!!......

[CelticDawn]

I have a questions for all of you 'ping' experts.

Since Lee lives close...say Casey left her parents home the night of the 15th and went to Lees. Would the tower she pinged from be the same one as the A's home?

Sorry but I am a little confused on how this works.

It would depend on how traffic is being routed. Usually I would think that it would be the same tower...but not necessarily. I don't know if they woudl do this...but there is a way to determine better, a location based on signal strengths. Also If there is an overload on one tower for any reason....if the phone has the juice it may hit another tower.

[bchand]

Do I have this right?

Video is from Nov 15 and Nov 16
C & G attorney quits on Nov 20
C &G's interview on Nov 21, George does interview only while Cindy just sits besides G and looks like she is drugged up?

That all seems correct to me.

[Lavenia]

She doesn't have an estate though I don't think. She was 2, all she could have had was life insurance or maybe some money in a savings account. I'm not following this estate thing. She can't make any money now..she isnt tupac..Or am I misunderstanding something?

Hey Motomom! The way I understand it (mostly thanks to Katprint), she (Caylee) has *potential* for an estate through licensing of her story, images, etc. Also her estate (Caylee's) could possibly sue Casey civilly for wrongful death and in the event Casey was covered by the A's homeowner policy, that money would go to her estate. I must confess to not remembering the details because I haven't had sleep in some time, but Casey doesn't have to be *convicted* of Caylee's death to be unable to share in the estate.

[really3997]

Oh my they are talking about D casey turning against the Anthony's

[shelbar53]

oh ok Maybe that's why I missed it. I'm usually good with checking links thread before I post but if a poster said a neighbour said....I'll take that with a grain of salt.

I haven't heard anything being reported about that on any of the talk shows. I think it would be big news if LE checked Lee's place.

Oh yeah Lee moving out was host talk for ahwile. Pics were posted of his trash left out on the curb {I posted one below}. Neighbors said LE swung by and picked through it.

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/?action=view&current=CayleeLee5.jpg

[CelticDawn]

Do I have this right?

Video is from Nov 15 and Nov 16
C & G attorney quits on Nov 20
C &G's interview on Nov 21, George does interview only while Cindy just sits besides G and looks like she is drugged up?
Incorporate the time/date stamps into this as well....

[CelticDawn]

Okay, now we're talking.

Watching JVM's Issues and Judge Jeannine Pirro says it appears whatever the heck Dominic was up to, he'll either be charged himself or he'll turn state's evidence against the A's.Its like I said before, when Nejame resigned....I just had a gut feeling this would end up being more charges for more people.

[commonguymd]

Really? Wow ..this is new to me. He had the carpets cleaned and Casey had access? When was this reported? Do you have a link or a possible date when this was reported so I can google?

You or anyone?

In the document dumps it is mentioned that Casey went to Lee's here and there. For what I don't recall and I don't recall the exact thing talked about. It is her brother so I spose it is safe to assume she went there at times.

On another site, there are some people from his neighborhood that took pictures of the stuff he left on the curb when he moved home. There was one particularily strange poster type freehand drawn picture with many oddities to death and drinking games. Those same people notified police and police took some items away. Those same people let LE know that carpet cleaners (which is not abnormal for a person moving) were there and the carpet cleaners were told to do a very specific thing or two and to clean extra well. Those same people said the carpet cleaners were contacted by police and the police took canisters and bags away from them.

I don't know if just people passing rumors, but there were pictures of him moving.

The date was about the 30th and the 31st. These folks took that odd picture and put it in front of the Anthony home for some reason when Lee got over there. The picture/poster was immediately taken inside by the Anthonys.

[Balesha]

Okay, now we're talking.

Watching JVM's Issues and Judge Jeannine Pirro says it appears whatever the heck Dominic was up to, he'll either be charged himself or he'll turn state's evidence against the A's.

I guess this whole thing is more consequential than I thought. Could get very interesting.

[Motomom]

Hey Motomom! The way I understand it (mostly thanks to Katprint), she (Caylee) has *potential* for an estate through licensing of her story, images, etc. Also her estate (Caylee's) could possibly sue Casey civilly for wrongful death and in the event Casey was covered by the A's homeowner policy, that money would go to her estate. I must confess to not remembering the details because I haven't had sleep in some time, but Casey doesn't have to be *convicted* of Caylee's death to be unable to share in the estate.

Thanks for a response Lavenia. I don't think she has an estate. Someone posted up thread a page ago about it too. I'm not sleeping well myself. Her story is Casey's story, the images weren't hers, so i see no potential estate either. But with this case..you never know..

[shelbar53]

Thanks,,,,, I want to see the list whos donating i seen one once that told who was donating to her account and how much....lol


http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2009/01/casey-anthony-receiving-gifts-while.html
It was reveled today that two people, most likely men - have sent money to the Orange County Florida jail which were deposited into an account that Casey Anthony can use to buy stuff from the commissary. One of the gifts came from Melbourne Australia and the other from someone in Kentucky.

[summer4meplz]

Do I have this right?

Video is from Nov 15 and Nov 16
C & G attorney quits on Nov 20
C &G's interview on Nov 21, George does interview only while Cindy just sits besides G and looks like she is drugged up?


yes, iirc, and I'm wondering how shortly after this, cindy either was hacked or accidently sent off some very interesting emails.....

[desmom]

Do I have this right?

Video is from Nov 15 and Nov 16
C & G attorney quits on Nov 20
C &G's interview on Nov 21, George does interview only while Cindy just sits besides G and looks like she is drugged up?

Adding to the list:

November 14: Casey's Attorney Inspecting Her Car At Sheriff's Office
http://www.wftv.com/news/17980507/detail.html#-

[bchand]

Do I have this right?

Video is from Nov 15 and Nov 16
C & G attorney quits on Nov 20
C &G's interview on Nov 21, George does interview only while Cindy just sits besides G and looks like she is drugged up?

Nov 20th NeJame resigns - http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

(the article is dated 21st but he resigned Thursday- 11/20)

Nov 21st George interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAW35NVmKNk

[Calla]

I read KioMarie's statement with the police recently and she said she had met Caylee's father once. That is about all she said about him. She did say that Cindy would not let her visit Casey when she was home because she is Hispanic. Caylee's beautiful eyes looked a little like my grandson's and he is half Hispanic - maybe that was Cindy's problem.

WOW

I also read that Cindy's brother said Caylee didn't have an ounce of hispanic blood and that ruled out some guy named Jose or Jesus..gonna see if I can find that

[bchand]

yes, iirc, and I'm wondering how shortly after this, cindy either was hacked or accidently sent off some very interesting emails.....

It was reported on Dec 1 - but I seem to remember she claimed it happened "over that weekend" when she wasn't home?

http://www.wftv.com/news/18181289/detail.html

[Lavenia]

Thanks for a response Lavenia. I don't think she has an estate. Someone posted up thread a page ago about it too. I'm not sleeping well myself. Her story is Casey's story, the images weren't hers, so i see no potential estate either. But with this case..you never know..

That's why I was asking Katprint about it. I'm not real clear on where whose rights (on money making opportunities) end and whose begin. I'm sure it would be something that would be hashed out in courts for YEARS though.

ETA: I'm sorry you're not sleeping well either. (((HUGS)))

[Neffy]

Does any find it odd that Mallory was never interviewed except the day they found the remains and she showed up at the house. You would think with Lee living around the corner you'd interview her to check on Lee's story of where he was or whatever.

[legalmania]

She doesn't have an estate though I don't think. She was 2, all she could have had was life insurance or maybe some money in a savings account. I'm not following this estate thing. She can't make any money now..she isnt tupac..Or am I misunderstanding something?

Her estate could be held fee simple subject to conditions subsequent.

[bchand]

Have you guys been discussing the fact that Kronk supposedly took a photo of the remains and is shopping it around?

I also heard that at the top of JVM's show just now.

Anyone?

I don't watch JVM but my husband said he heard it at the top of her show also. (He'll be on Good Morning America tomorrow.)

[rambo55]

Because sometimes LE makes mistakes, and innocent people get convicted because of it. Its always best to follow the advice of an attorney, who would advise against such warrantless intrusion.

imo


OH PLEASE!!! You can't tell me that if one of your loved ones came up missing - you wouldnt volunteer anything and everything you could to reduce the pool of subjects so they could HOPEFULLY locate your loved one asap?

[?noanswer]

It was reported on Dec 1 - but I seem to remember she claimed it happened "over that weekend" when she wasn't home?

http://www.wftv.com/news/18181289/detail.html


I think it was over the Thanksgiving weekend. JMO

[desmom]

yes, iirc, and I'm wondering how shortly after this, cindy either was hacked or accidently sent off some very interesting emails.....

Thanksgiving weekend. http://www.wftv.com/news/18181289/detail.html

ETA ~ Thanksgiving was November 27

[Mimi428]

Kronk Shares New Details On Caylee's Remains

But on Monday, two sources said Casey said he was talking with a psychic who was telling him where to search along Suburban Drive. Investigators are reviewing that assertion.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18458831/detail.html

Good grief. He's claiming that he was talking to a psychic?.

Cheeeese Louise! That's mighty convenient. Noooo, couldn't be that he was talking to someone who actually knows or may have recently spoken to Casey. Naaaaah, the handy-dandy psychic was leading him around.

I guess it sounds better than him saying that St Nicholas, the patron saint of children consulted with St Anthony of Padua, the patron saint of lost things, & they dialed up his number.

(some kind of irony re: the patron saint of lost things, isn't it?)

JMO

[really3997]

It was reported on Dec 1 - but I seem to remember she claimed it happened "over that weekend" when she wasn't home?

http://www.wftv.com/news/18181289/detail.html

Yes IIRC thats right that is when she wasn't home on Thanksgiving weekend the same day they said set a place for Caylee at the table and George was driving the sign around..

[Pruddennce]

Oh yeah Lee moving out was host talk for ahwile. Pics were posted of his trash left out on the curb {I posted one below}. Neighbors said LE swung by and picked through it.

http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq120/cayleecross/?action=view&current=CayleeLee5.jpg

interesting shelbar.

now who is the 'roommate' he was referring to in his statement to LE "a good friend of mine and a good friend of 'ours' "

IMO, its not Mallory or he would have said his girlfriend. IMO

page 5
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/01%20Lee%20Anthony%20July%2029,%202008.pdf

best regards,
Pru

[?noanswer]

Have you guys been discussing the fact that Kronk supposedly took a photo of the remains and is shopping it around?

I also heard that at the top of JVM's show just now.

Anyone?

A link was posted that stated that. Hopefully he got LE's permission to show the photo. But with all the twists and turns in this saga, who knows. JMO

[bchand]

Yes IIRC thats right that is when she wasn't home on Thanksgiving weekend the same day they said set a place for Caylee at the table and George was driving the sign around..

Seems like it was a very, very busy end of November in the Anthony household doesn't it?

I finally believe them when they say "we" don't know the whole story.

[?noanswer]

OH PLEASE!!! You can't tell me that if one of your loved ones came up missing - you wouldnt volunteer anything and everything you could to reduce the pool of subjects so they could HOPEFULLY locate your loved one asap?


I would unless I had something to hide. JMO

[CelticDawn]

Does any find it odd that Mallory was never interviewed except the day they found the remains and she showed up at the house. You would think with Lee living around the corner you'd interview her to check on Lee's story of where he was or whatever.

There may not be any formal interview,...but you can bet on it....They have BCed them nine ways til Sunday and are probably observing their every move.....You cant be as close to this fire as they are and not get a little bit singed....Theryre watching.

[desmom]

Does any find it odd that Mallory was never interviewed except the day they found the remains and she showed up at the house. You would think with Lee living around the corner you'd interview her to check on Lee's story of where he was or whatever.

Wasn't there something in one of the doc dumps about Mallory telling a co-worker something about Casey or Caylee?

[legalmania]

Have you guys been discussing the fact that Kronk supposedly took a photo of the remains and is shopping it around?

I also heard that at the top of JVM's show just now.

Anyone?

No I haven't heard that but I've been wondering for some time now if Kronk took pictures on those three days in Aug. to document his findings. This would make things interesting.

[?noanswer]

Seems like it was a very, very busy end of November in the Anthony household doesn't it?

I finally believe them when they say "we" don't know the whole story.

I think with the A's, the story is still developing/changing to fit the flavor of the day. JMO

[Tracian]

Okay, now we're talking.

Watching JVM's Issues and Judge Jeannine Pirro says it appears whatever the heck Dominic was up to, he'll either be charged himself or he'll turn state's evidence against the A's.


Yep! It is about time someone has the courage to say something and stop the excuses for such antics! Getting clearer and clearer why the immunity deal was put out there before even the plane touched down in FL.

[Mimi428]

Okay, now we're talking.

Watching JVM's Issues and Judge Jeannine Pirro says it appears whatever the heck Dominic was up to, he'll either be charged himself or he'll turn state's evidence against the A's.


Thanks for that update, much appreciated. I can't imagine what that maroon thought he was doing out there. Gads.

JMO

[MGM111]

Nov 20th NeJame resigns - http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-nejame2108nov21,0,7372410.story

(the article is dated 21st but he resigned Thursday- 11/20)

Nov 21st George interview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAW35NVmKNk

Thank you bchand..
I also wanted to take a moment to thank Desmom and Regina for there links to me early this morning concerning Nejame :seeya:

This is a very interesting moment of time in this case.........

[True2Blues]

Wasn't there something in one of the doc dumps about Mallory telling a co-worker something about Casey or Caylee?

I can't believe she didn't pack her bags and get as far away from the entire Anthony family as possible.

[rambo55]

I would unless I had something to hide. JMO


XOXO - Thank you for making my point!:thumbsup:

[daHawg]

interesting shelbar.

now who is the 'roommate' he was referring to in his statement to LE "a good friend of mine and a good friend of 'ours' "

IMO, its not Mallory or he would have said his girlfriend. IMO

page 5
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/01%20Lee%20Anthony%20July%2029,%202008.pdf

best regards,
Pru
Yeah but IIRC neighbors reported to the media that day confirmed that was indeed Mallory and that they said she would be there to take care of the dogs when the A's were gone.

[esmile]

JVM Issues: at the end of a segment JVM said that Kronk used to be a Bounty Hunter before he was a meter reader...

I thought that was interesting and may explain his repeated calls/interest in finding the remains.

[Neffy]

Well, I have to say, this photo business is distasteful. Why would he have taken a picture if not to shop it?

Maybe he was concerned he wasn't getting enough attention from LE on the matter, but to take a photo and then try to make $$'s on it makes me a little ill.

I'm surprised that LE didn't take it. Same with those video's with some kind of stipulation they would be returned AFTER the trial.


Personally I do think Kronk did this for the money. There was a reward out there was found to be reniged in the end. If he was a past PI or Bounty Hunter and you live in that area why not. It's said he was in desire straights financially. I'm guessing his wifes medical bills. Boy can that put you under fast.

[True2Blues]

Yep! It is about time someone has the courage to say something and stop the excuses for such antics! Getting clearer and clearer why the immunity deal was put out there before even the plane touched down in FL.

It just gets curiouser and curiouser doesn't it?

[?noanswer]

He was a bounty hunter, not a PI... Per JVM..


Well I heard he was a bondmans and a PI. Gonna believe me or JVM. J/K JMO

[ConchGirl]

Because sometimes LE makes mistakes, and innocent people get convicted because of it. Its always best to follow the advice of an attorney, who would advise against such warrantless intrusion.

imo

Science doesn't lie. (Cindy the nurse disputes it) moo I have never needed a lawyer yet. :shrug:

[True2Blues]

JVM Issues: at the end of a segment JVM said that Kronk used to be a Bounty Hunter before he was a meter reader...

I thought that was interesting and may explain his repeated calls/interest in finding the remains.

I agree with you.

[Neffy]

Science doesn't lie. (Cindy the nurse disputes it) moo I have never needed a lawyer yet. :shrug:


Yea what was that Science isn't 100% it's just science. Something like that LOL

[esmile]

I have been thinking about this. I am sure any guy who slept with Casey around the time she became pregnant could now figure this out (if they did not know before) that they are the Father. It would be easy to figure out with all the dates being made public.

Anyway, whomever they are, I truly believe that they know who they are, and I tend to think that at some point we may see the father step forward and take a DNA test.

Anyone else think this?

[True2Blues]

This appears to be a really grubby bunch. Surely there's someone whose hands aren't dirty?

My money at the moment is on Mark NeJame. And Tim Miller, as always.


I think that's the whole list. All both of them.

[ConchGirl]

This appears to be a really grubby bunch. Surely there's someone whose hands aren't dirty?

My money at the moment is on Mark NeJame. And Tim Miller, as always.

Nejame has ties to Never Lose Hope Foundation who may be investigated for raffle fraud. IMO

[True2Blues]

I have been thinking about this. I am sure any guy who slept with Casey around the time she became pregnant could now figure this out (if they did not know before) that they are the Father. It would be easy to figure out with all the dates being made public.

Anyway, whomever they are, I truly believe that they know who they are, and I tend to think that at some point we may see the father step forward and take a DNA test.

Anyone else think this?

If they even knew her name, they might. You never know.

[?noanswer]

I have been thinking about this. I am sure any guy who slept with Casey around the time she became pregnant could now figure this out (if they did not know before) that they are the Father. It would be easy to figure out with all the dates being made public.

Anyway, whomever they are, I truly believe that they know who they are, and I tend to think that at some point we may see the father step forward and take a DNA test.

Anyone else think this?

I'm not discounting that anything may happen in this crazy mixed up fiasco. JMO

[Lavenia]

Because sometimes LE makes mistakes, and innocent people get convicted because of it. Its always best to follow the advice of an attorney, who would advise against such warrantless intrusion.

imo

In most circumstances I would follow my attorney's advice. BUT if my grandchild was missing and LE wanted ANYTHING from me, I don't care if it put me UNDER the jailhouse, they would get it from me tout de suite!
No discussion, no hesitation, no stategizing. Period. THE END.

[bchand]

In most circumstances I would follow my attorney's advice. BUT if my grandchild was missing and LE wanted ANYTHING from me, I don't care if it put me UNDER the jailhouse, they would get it from me tout de suite!
No discussion, no hesitation, no stategizing. Period. THE END.

Ditto for me.

[True2Blues]

In most circumstances I would follow my attorney's advice. BUT if my grandchild was missing and LE wanted ANYTHING from me, I don't care if it put me UNDER the jailhouse, they would get it from me tout de suite!
No discussion, no hesitation, no stategizing. Period. THE END.

Well said! That would be no time to be playing games.

[jammies]

In most circumstances I would follow my attorney's advice. BUT if my grandchild was missing and LE wanted ANYTHING from me, I don't care if it put me UNDER the jailhouse, they would get it from me tout de suite!
No discussion, no hesitation, no stategizing. Period. THE END.


Well, you are NORMAL, lav. From day one, the A's proved they are not. Ask Mark Klass what HE thinks of their behavior.

[esmile]

If they even knew her name, they might. You never know.

Can you imagine stepping into this fiasco? It will take some major guts that's for sure. But if I was the father, I'd do it right away as a matter of principle. The father had rights in all this and I think it was another thing Casey stole. But you are right, they may not even have known her name.... it might have been a night after going to fusions, etc. I saw that group photo of a bunch of guys from that club and some were flashing gang signs.

[Neffy]

I have been thinking about this. I am sure any guy who slept with Casey around the time she became pregnant could now figure this out (if they did not know before) that they are the Father. It would be easy to figure out with all the dates being made public.

Anyway, whomever they are, I truly believe that they know who they are, and I tend to think that at some point we may see the father step forward and take a DNA test.

Anyone else think this?

I do now and I'm sure a few have an idea at least. Do you come forward now or lawyer up and prepare for a long battle being denounced. What a mess.

[Cury-us Coyote]

interesting shelbar.

now who is the 'roommate' he was referring to in his statement to LE "a good friend of mine and a good friend of 'ours' "

IMO, its not Mallory or he would have said his girlfriend. IMO

page 5
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/01%20Lee%20Anthony%20July%2029,%202008.pdf

best regards,
Pru

See page 34 of 50 (2006 questionable if current)
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202501-2550f.pdf

[girlspell]

I have been thinking about this. I am sure any guy who slept with Casey around the time she became pregnant could now figure this out (if they did not know before) that they are the Father. It would be easy to figure out with all the dates being made public.

Anyway, whomever they are, I truly believe that they know who they are, and I tend to think that at some point we may see the father step forward and take a DNA test.

Anyone else think this?

Early on in this case, I remember reading that LE was quite "satisfied" about the absence or any father of Cayee They just did not see him as a factor in this case. It certainly has still not brought up by them to date. I don't see what factor he would have in the case. He had nothing to do with the kid, and LE is satisfied Casey acted alone.

[bchand]

Ack! :ohmy:

Orlando-based missing-children's organization Never Lose Hope Foundation hired NeJame to help the couple.


http://www.mcall.com/topic/orl-nejame1008sep10,0,2468362.story

[Lavenia]

I have been thinking about this. I am sure any guy who slept with Casey around the time she became pregnant could now figure this out (if they did not know before) that they are the Father. It would be easy to figure out with all the dates being made public.

Anyway, whomever they are, I truly believe that they know who they are, and I tend to think that at some point we may see the father step forward and take a DNA test.

Anyone else think this?

Frankly, I would hope they don't. There is no parenting they could do at this point. The only thing I can see a father gaining by coming forward in a "normal situation" where a child has died when the father hasn't been involved for whatever reason, is to maybe share memories with the family and learn more about the daughter he missed growing from birth. This family is not likely to share those tidbits with anyone who comes forward, IMO.

To me, coming forward now will just be seen as a money grab. I am, however, open to others ideas.

[playnice]

I have sympathy for Kronk's situation.

At the same time, I'm really sick to my stomach at all the $$'s swirling around this baby's violent death at the hands of her mother.

This case gets crazier all the time. I wonder if Kronk was set up to find the body by D Casey? The taping the area maybe someone wanted Caylee brought home? George? Lee? They could prove the body wasnt there (they thought) and bring Caylee home too.
Maybe someone saw the tips from Kronk and tipped him to search again with more specific details? Maybe Lenny is right. The daisy chain.
I just dont know what to think about all of this.

[Neffy]

I have sympathy for Kronk's situation.

At the same time, I'm really sick to my stomach at all the $$'s swirling around this baby's violent death at the hands of her mother.


I agree an also have sympathy for him. You would think the A's would have thanked him for bringing closure at the very least.

[?noanswer]

Judge Napolitano talks about the latest in the Anthony case. This is another instance of someone opening mouth without knowing details (At least as we posters on this board know them!). JMO

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/My...1&locale=EN-US

[True2Blues]

Early on in this case, I remember reading that LE was quite "satisfied" about the absence or any father of Cayee They just did not see him as a factor in this case. It certainly has still not brought up by them to date. I don't see what factor he would have in the case. He had nothing to do with the kid, and LE is satisfied Casey acted alone.


I don't think he'd have any effect on the case, but he could probably file suit against Casey for not telling him about Caylee. Not that it would do him any good, unless Casey is planning on making money from this.

[CelticDawn]

JVM Issues: at the end of a segment JVM said that Kronk used to be a Bounty Hunter before he was a meter reader...

I thought that was interesting and may explain his repeated calls/interest in finding the remains.


It also explains why he found what some would have blown off as a garbage heap as suspicious.

Perhaps there were some items that looked like they were from a childs room...or a childs possessions maybe...Something piqued his interest in the area back in August. I for one am happy that he didnt let it go.

[Lavenia]

Can you imagine just sitting back, debating what LE was up to and what it meant and whether they were dirty and whether something might come back to bite you ... under circumstances in which your granddaughter was missing?

That would be one of those times when you put your faith in the system, cooperate 200 percent, and hang on for dear life. It would not be a time to mull over your options and decide what it might be in your best interest to do, for heaven's sake.

That's it. Do what you will to me, GET MY KID BACK! (AGH, just thinking about this makes me cry!)

[bchand]

Orlando-based missing-children's organization Never Lose Hope Foundation hired NeJame to help the couple.


http://www.mcall.com/topic/orl-nejame1008sep10,0,2468362.story


However, NeJame wanted to give Kronk a $5,000 reward for finding Caylee. He said this is what he received from an "unnamed charity" to help the Anthonys.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18374917/detail.html

[Neffy]

I don't think he'd have any effect on the case, but he could probably file suit against Casey for not telling him about Caylee. Not that it would do him any good, unless Casey is planning on making money from this.

You have to remember who ever he is he's going to drag his entire family into this. Can you imagine your son coming home:

UM MOM, DAD.......sit down.

[rambo55]

Yea what was that Science isn't 100% it's just science. Something like that LOL


LOL!!! YES! I remember that statement from Cindy A. Talk about going to the wall for a cause.

Too bad she wants to lie about science rather than tell the truth about her murdered grand daughter...

[Lavenia]

Ditto for me. (except the stategizing part.)

How 'bout strategerizing? :tonguewag:

[Neffy]

Asking again, is there a link to Casey's commissary account? TIA.

LOL I haven't seen anyone post one. Just links to articles stating what's going on.

[True2Blues]

However, NeJame wanted to give Kronk a $5,000 reward for finding Caylee. He said this is what he received from an "unnamed charity" to help the Anthonys.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18374917/detail.html


I don't know about NeJame's other involvements, but I think in this case, he got out because he wasn't willing to get dirty.

[bchand]

Asking again, is there a link to Casey's commissary account? TIA.

Just what comes out weekly in the media:

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-jail1009jan10,0,3323490.story

[CelticDawn]

Can you imagine just sitting back, debating what LE was up to and what it meant and whether they were dirty and whether something might come back to bite you ... under circumstances in which your granddaughter was missing?

That would be one of those times when you put your faith in the system, cooperate 200 percent, and hang on for dear life. It would not be a time to mull over your options and decide what it might be in your best interest to do, for heaven's sake.

If one of my kids was missing they could PUT me in jail ....as long as they FOUND MY KID.

[ConchGirl]

However, NeJame wanted to give Kronk a $5,000 reward for finding Caylee. He said this is what he received from an "unnamed charity" to help the Anthonys.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18374917/detail.html

Follow the money, http://www.topix.com/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TLNDPU2T0776O9O61/p2 Money is the root of evil and I'm sure it will all come out eventually. moo

[True2Blues]

You have to remember who ever he is he's going to drag his entire family into this. Can you imagine your son coming home:

UM MOM, DAD.......sit down.

Horrifying.

[ConchGirl]

I don't know about NeJame's other involvements, but I think in this case, he got out because he wasn't willing to get dirty.

IMO he got out because he was dirty and was about to be exposed. moo

[Neffy]

It appears to me too that this is the time that Cindy had some kind of actual proof of Caylee's death. I think it was suspected all along but I do think this video clearly shows Cindy in a very different mode.

Could Caylee's body been found by DCasey and moved after the Nov 15, 16 video closer to the road to be sure it was indeed found? Defense could show no body was there on Nov 15, 16 but when it was found it was deposited by someone else as Casey was in jail.

Will this be the defense?

I don't believe it was even possible to move the remains in the shape that they were found in let alone stage it to look that way. That was spread over quite a distance.

[bchand]

I don't know about NeJame's other involvements, but I think in this case, he got out because he wasn't willing to get dirty.

I agree and I think he as much said that.

[?noanswer]

It appears to me too that this is the time that Cindy had some kind of actual proof of Caylee's death. I think it was suspected all along but I do think this video clearly shows Cindy in a very different mode.

Could Caylee's body been found by DCasey and moved after the Nov 15, 16 video closer to the road to be sure it was indeed found? Defense could show no body was there on Nov 15, 16 but when it was found it was deposited by someone else as Casey was in jail.

Will this be the defense?

That could have been their plan, but there was a link to information about the body. Said could determine that it was there within 15 days of her disappearance in June. Used bug and grass evidence. Said grass was growing thru the skeleton. JMO

[rambo55]

No, I don't think I would. Of course it would depend on the circumstances, but I probably wouldn't.


If that is honestly true (which I doubt) , all I have to say is a very deflated wow. I am glad you aren't watching my back.

[MGM111]

JVM Issues: at the end of a segment JVM said that Kronk used to be a Bounty Hunter before he was a meter reader...

I thought that was interesting and may explain his repeated calls/interest in finding the remains.

I wonder... if he had put his personal issues aside and stated to authorities right off the bat during his 911 calls that he had experience in this field....would he have been taken more seriously....would there have been a more thorough search done back in August??....I think investigaters would have..imo

[Neffy]

Except it seems based on this latest mess with the PI's that the A's had already found a measure of closure. Seems we, including LE, might've been among the last to know where Caylee's remains were. Good grief.

That's quite interesting and as macabre. You can't thank someone for closure that you'd already known about and had.

[bchand]

How 'bout strategerizing? :tonguewag:

Alright, I'll go with that. (Although I prefer confabulating when talking about the Anthonys.)

[Anakerie]

IMO he got out because he was dirty and was about to be exposed. moo
Nah.. I don't think he's "dirty". I think he got out because he could see that Cindy and George were going to do whatever they wanted, not what he advised.

After all, he's now helping Tim Miller and EquuSearch. Dirty? Nah.. Not in my eyes.

[True2Blues]

IMO he got out because he was dirty and was about to be exposed. moo

That could be too. I really don't know anything about him, other than what is posted here. This is certainly a case that seems to have a lot of dirty dealing going on under the surface.

[CuriousJo]

It appears to me too that this is the time that Cindy had some kind of actual proof of Caylee's death. I think it was suspected all along but I do think this video clearly shows Cindy in a very different mode.

Could Caylee's body been found by DCasey and moved after the Nov 15, 16 video closer to the road to be sure it was indeed found? Defense could show no body was there on Nov 15, 16 but when it was found it was deposited by someone else as Casey was in jail.

Will this be the defense?


If so- it will fail. If there truley were plants growing through/around the skeleton remains, then the prosecutor can say how long the body had been sitting in this shallow grave by putting the botanist and bug expert on the stand. Plants don't grow over night......

[nana6]

An interesting evening here tonight. It seems we have no satellite dish working and will not have tv until Saturday!!!!!!!!!!! SO, I will be on here with you my friends, alot. Is there any new news to report today??

[bchand]

JVM Issues: at the end of a segment JVM said that Kronk used to be a Bounty Hunter before he was a meter reader...

I thought that was interesting and may explain his repeated calls/interest in finding the remains.


esmile - did she EVER get back to the bombshell she dropped in the beginning about Kronk having a photo?

[Cury-us Coyote]

Never Loose Hope also donated 15 Grand to TES..

http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=N07000004181&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=NEVERLOOSEHOPE&names_filing_type=

http://www.skyviewexoticcars.com/winning-raffle-tickets.html

[CuriousJo]

NG has the video taken by Anthonys PIs------ will be revealed tonight?

[True2Blues]

I agree and I think he as much said that.

That was the impression I got as well.

[Neffy]

http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=N07000004181&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=NEVERLOOSEHOPE&names_filing_type=

http://www.skyviewexoticcars.com/winning-raffle-tickets.html

IIRC Tim said while doing a short interview at Blanchard Park that the search was in like $75,000.00 at that time.

[?noanswer]

NG has the video taken by Anthonys PIs------ will be revealed tonight?

Nancy is a day late & dollar short! I think she said Brad Conway is going to be on her show. Said he is mad the tape was released. Nancy is smoking at the nostrils!!! JMO

[bchand]

http://sunbiz.org/scripts/cordet.exe?action=DETFIL&inq_doc_number=N07000004181&inq_came_from=NAMFWD&cor_web_names_seq_number=0000&names_name_ind=N&names_cor_number=&names_name_seq=&names_name_ind=&names_comp_name=NEVERLOOSEHOPE&names_filing_type=

http://www.skyviewexoticcars.com/winning-raffle-tickets.html


The "Congradulations!" part would have me worried about the legitimacy of the raffle.


I remember now. When it came out that Mark NeJame was getting money donated to TES (apparently from Never Lose Hope), it didn't sit too well with alot of folks.

[Anakerie]

NG has the video taken by Anthonys PIs------ will be revealed tonight?
lol, Unless Nancy shows more than Geraldo showed last night, she's a day late with the video...

[irishkitty24]

I don't know about NeJame's other involvements, but I think in this case, he got out because he wasn't willing to get dirty.

I think he got out because he is smart and wanted to distance himself from this disaster.

I don't necessarily think he resigned because he is more honorable than other members of the team, just smarter. He does not want publicity for publicities(sp?) sake. I think he values his name a little more than that and would like to be famous in a positive light not just as part of a freak show.

If any of that makes sense, kwim?

I am not dogging him but his case has really shaken my faith in the human race.

The only person in this whole mess that seems clean is Tim Miller.

[True2Blues]

Except it seems based on this latest mess with the PI's that the A's had already found a measure of closure. Seems we, including LE, might've been among the last to know where Caylee's remains were. Good grief.

And if that is the case, those who did know, were content to leave her there in the brush, like trash. Which speaks volumes about them.

[bchand]

An interesting evening here tonight. It seems we have no satellite dish working and will not have tv until Saturday!!!!!!!!!!! SO, I will be on here with you my friends, alot. Is there any new news to report today??


Sorry nana6 - that's not a very good advertisement for the satellite dish company!! The nerve of them.

Only news I've been hearing is about the PIs and their tapes made in November. And Kronk (Meter Reader) will be on Good Morning America tomorrow.

[bchand]

No longer a BOMBSHELL!, Nance. Hate to tell ya. :rolleyes:

Did she say totmom yet?

[CuriousJo]

There was a nearby abandoned house- (....could that be where Casey would leave a sedated Caylee when she partied?) Also, the PI was showed looking at area where the 3 stones and body were placed. There is audio on tape where PI sys "It would be right here"... was he referring to body? Looks like DC may be in trouble.

[trich]

D Casy said "it" should be right here.

[nana6]

Sorry nana6 - that's not a very good advertisement for the satellite dish company!! The nerve of them.

Only news I've been hearing is about the PIs and their tapes made in November. And Kronk (Meter Reader) will be on Good Morning America tomorrow.

Hi B, Yeah, we have alot of snow here in Cleveland and the dish is on the roof sooooooo. Anyway, this poor meter reader. I do feel very sorry for him. I think he was set up to find little Caylee. One minute I think that I should say, and the next minute I think he just could not get that bag out of his mind and kept going back. I bet he will have much to say tomorrow morning on GMA..

[True2Blues]

I think he got out because he is smart and wanted to distance himself from this disaster.

I don't necessarily think he resigned because he is more honorable than other members of the team, just smarter. He does not want publicity for publicities(sp?) sake. I think he values his name a little more than that and would like to be famous in a positive light not just as part of a freak show.

If any of that makes sense, kwim?

I am not dogging him but his case has really shaken my faith in the human race.

The only person in this whole mess that seems clean is Tim Miller.

I can see that. Why stand there and let a Mack Truck of garbage hit you, when you can step out of the way? He had no personal involvement in this and had every right to look out for his professional reputation. It's his living after all. I wouldn't blame anyone for that.

[desmom]

Kathi Belich from WFTV is on NG. She said D. Casey seemed to be focused on concrete blocks at the abandoned house and in the woods.

On the 16th he used the metal rod jamming it into the ground near the concrete blocks in the woods and near the house.

I wonder if there were concrete blocks near where Caylee was found.

jmo

[esmile]

on NG tonight they play a 911 call where kronk says he has a human skull.

Anyone else hear this? This is not the same recording we heard before, they said this one was called in earlier than the other?

[FrankieBones1]

Seems creepy that the PI would be ripping open bags with a knife if he was so sure Caylee's remains might be in them. And why jam a rod into the ground if he thought she might be buried? And who was he taking to on the cell phone?

Nancy keeps saying, "Literally feet from where Caylee's remains were found"....Just how many feet are we talking about?

The PI told Kathy Belich he was on the phone with his ill daughter but had told others that he was on the phone with a psychic.

[Mamie]

That could have been their plan, but there was a link to information about the body. Said could determine that it was there within 15 days of her disappearance in June. Used bug and grass evidence. Said grass was growing thru the skeleton. JMO

That's true. Plus how would one explain Kronk? He saw what he saw in August and went back to the same place and saw it in December. JMO

[Lavenia]

on NG tonight they play a 911 call where kronk says he has a human skull.

Anyone else hear this? This is not the same recording we heard before, they said this one was called in earlier than the other?

This is one I've heard, for sure.

[CelticDawn]

D Casy said "it" should be right here.

somebody was directing him to the remains....Now its going to be quite a shock to find out just who that somebody is.

Do you think Nejame knew this at this time, or that he knew who knew for sure? I think that is why he resigned.

[Motomom]

I haven't been an Anthony fan from Day 31. But prior to this PI videotaping stuff, I would never have made the leap they possibly knew where that baby's remains were long before the date of the official discovery.

I'm still waiting for confirmation on all this, because I really can't wrap my head around the role the A's seem to have played in this.

I don't beleive they knew where her remains were. They loved Caylee IMO and would not have let her body rot away there if they had known. IMO

[CuriousJo]

Kathi Belich from WFTV is on NG. She said D. Casey seemed to be focused on concrete blocks at the abandoned house and in the woods.

On the 16th he used the metal rod jamming it into the ground near the concrete blocks in the woods and near the house.

I wonder if there were concrete blocks near where Caylee was found.

jmo

It will be important to find out who he was speaking to on his cell phone. Apparently, he first said it was his daughter, then said it was a psychic...I am sure the LE have checked his cell phone records. If it was the Anthonys or defense team, he is in big trouble. If Lenny is telling the truth about this guy calling him and saying they were going to go get the body, then the PI is still in big trouble. IMO. Hope the LE take a close look at that abandoned house..........

[desmom]

That's true. Plus how would one explain Kronk? He saw what he saw in August and went back to the same place and saw it in December. JMO

The bag in August was identified as trash. jmo

[Anakerie]

on NG tonight they play a 911 call where kronk says he has a human skull.

Anyone else hear this? This is not the same recording we heard before, they said this one was called in earlier than the other?
That recording is the one where he calls/radio's his supervisor and the dispatcher. The 911 call was made by the dispatcher and the supervisor comes on and relays what the meter reader said on the radio.

[nana6]

This appears to be a really grubby bunch. Surely there's someone whose hands aren't dirty?

My money at the moment is on Mark NeJame. And Tim Miller, as always.

Oh ITA These look like the only two right now. I noticed how fast Mark got out of this case. I thought he was running from them so to speak/ That said alot to me. He just was not going to deal with the likes of this family. It was clear to him probably from the beginning that he was not going to be in charge.

[desmom]

Natisha Lance said D. Casey has not turned over his cell phone records and LE are still trying to get the records. jmo

[Mamie]

Seems creepy that the PI would be ripping open bags with a knife if he was so sure Caylee's remains might be in them. And why jam a rod into the ground if he thought she might be buried? And who was he taking to on the cell phone?

Nancy keeps saying, "Literally feet from where Caylee's remains were found"....Just how many feet are we talking about?

The PI told Kathy Belich he was on the phone with his ill daughter but had told others that he was on the phone with a psychic.

You know Nancy-------lots of feet! And yes, I thought it was strange the ripping and poking into the ground with a metal rod-----how disruptive and disrespectful if Caylee's remains had actually been there-----just how would he explain that?

Looks like though we just might find out who he was on the phone with at that time. I think LE's going to get his phone log with or without his permission. JMO

[bchand]

Natisha Lance said D. Casey has not turned over his cell phone records and LE are still trying to get the records. jmo

Good news, thanks.

[trich]

I don't beleive they knew where her remains were. They loved Caylee IMO and would not have let her body rot away there if they had known. IMO

I can't help but disagree... they would and will do anything to protect Casey...Including lying and hiding any evidence that they can. IMO

[FrankieBones1]

NG has the video taken by Anthonys PIs------ will be revealed tonight?I'm glad I tuned in tonight. I didn't see Geraldo's show last night so this is the first time seeing the video.

[MGM111]

Seems creepy that the PI would be ripping open bags with a knife if he was so sure Caylee's remains might be in them. And why jam a rod into the ground if he thought she might be buried? And who was he taking to on the cell phone?

Nancy keeps saying, "Literally feet from where Caylee's remains were found"....Just how many feet are we talking about?

The PI told Kathy Belich he was on the phone with his ill daughter but had told others that he was on the phone with a psychic.

Per NG....150 Ft from Caylee

[bchand]

Yep, that's what Kathi Belich heard him say. And I believe her.

<<snipped>> Me too.

Dominic's credibility is down the proverbial toilet. Wonder if he has fessed up yet to LE, or whether he's waiting to see what they discover from his cell phone records.


and yet the Anthony attorney said that D Casey doesn't need an attorney. Hello????

[Motomom]

mmer, either. All KioMarie said was that they spent time in that area, not that a body was dumped in that area.

Dominic's credibility is down the proverbial toilet. Wonder if he has fessed up yet to LE, or whether he's waiting to see what they discover from his cell phone records.

I'm pretty sure I read in a link that was posted late last night that they do know who he was talking to but were not releasing it.

[~jomomma~]

Natisha Lance said D. Casey has not turned over his cell phone records and LE are still trying to get the records. jmo

i hate this! we keep hearing different stories!

i think it was in the 6:00 broadcast earlier tonight, it was said that DC wasn't going to disclose who he was talking to but that LE knows who it was.

[tmw]

BOMBSHELL--- Lucy's first word..........................


BOMBSHELL

[Motomom]

I can't help but disagree... they would and will do anything to protect Casey...Including lying and hiding any evidence that they can. IMO

Lieing and hiding evidence is one thing and I can agree with you in regards to that. But knowing that their granddaughter is rotting away a block from their home.. no. JMO

[FrankieBones1]

You know Nancy-------lots of feet! And yes, I thought it was strange the ripping and poking into the ground with a metal rod-----how disruptive and disrespectful if Caylee's remains had actually been there-----just how would he explain that?

Looks like though we just might find out who he was on the phone with at that time. I think LE's going to get his phone log with or without his permission. JMO

Would the police need a search warrant to get the records from the cellphone company?

I just heard Leonard Padilla say that the PI was only 12 feet from Caylee but she was submerged under water.

[Anakerie]

Padilla is full of it!!! Did I just hear him say that the PI's were only 12 feet from Caylee's remains? Geez!!! I swear he's gotten worse since his fiasco's here in Sacramento!

I wish someone would shut him up!!!!!! :cursing:

[nana6]

... except the evidence involving the PI's seems to indicate they might have known.

Hi Say, I am afraid you a right on this one. I really did not think they knew but maybe they did know where she was. So very hard to believe . I have a bad feeling about who the PI was talking to and I think if it was the A's that has got to be big.

[True2Blues]

Would the police need a search warrant to get the records from the cellphone company?

I just heard Leonard Padilla say that the PI was only 12 feet from Caylee but she was submerged under water.

Considering the source, I'd take that with a grain of salt.:seeya: