Monday January 12 - Part 1

[?noanswer]

I cant figure out this Attys angle.
And you are asking the same questions I couldnt articulate. Hoover was hired by someone to come around at some point. If he was fired or never paid, the material he collected he would own ... right?
If that is true, then someone paid him for that work. So, Anthonys which is it?

Surely D Casey saw him videoing the search. If they weren't affliated, why didn't DC stop him. It floors me that anyone would have the search taped anyway. The old adage, if more than one person knows a secret, it is no longer a secret, is really appropriate in this situation. JMO

[neid_77]

forget it if you want to see the video's the link on the bottom of page 23 works the last one doesn't it is of casey's cell phone ping and it is a ping in the almost exact spot caylee was found very interesing if you want to see it...it's on the bottom of page 23...i would check it out it's AMAZING!!!

[Tracian]

I worry a little about the possible message this case brings to our society.

--Wanna get rid of your kid when you live with your parents? Just take off and run from friend to friend until you get caught by your mom. Then just throw out a big lie about an invisible nanny kidnapping.

--Kid goes missing? Try to put as much time between the missing date and then have your parents scream about how no Amber alert was done. Hey 31 days isn't so long now is it?

--Family member suspected of offing their own kid? No sweat. Just start tap dancing. Take a lie detector test? nope........ Encourage Casey to cooperate with the authorities? nope......... Tell the truth yourself for pity's sake....nope....... Just keep tap dancing. And while you're at it---implicate other people, disrespect the folks searching for your missing family member, blame law enforcement and change your own story every week or so....

---Living paycheck to paycheck? Hmmmm......those donations sure come in handy. Those free 1st class all expense paid trips are sure better than anything else we've ever had. Just keep spinning and those interviews keep coming.

---Body finally found? How inconvenient. But that's okay. Explain all of your lies away with the grief process. Surely everyone will understand that?

Listen. I don't think the family had anything to do with the murder. But they covered it up by god. The exact extent I'm not sure. But the lessons learned from this case will be learned by others who will try the same thing. If the family is not held accountable for at least a portion of their own actions, don't be surprised to see a sequel played out in the future. Different players, but same tune.

Thanks for listening ... My own opinion of course. Flame away.. Be well.


Excellent post! I agree completely with you....I too have wondered for some time how the A's are supporting themselves; then we have heard about monies paid for pictures etc....who is getting payment for that? And who would 'sell' pictures when the child is still 'missing' and they want her back?

[happygert]

Could you link to this? Everything I've seen since the body was found had to do with people putting up memorials(which brother Lee promptly removed)

JMO

exactly! no protesting that i saw just flowers, toys and notes.....

[ishkabibble]

I agree, but keep in mind Ricardo did say that CAYLEE slept with him and Casey on one ocassion (more??). That just doesn't sit right with me. How does that equate to "mother of the year".

JMO

He seems like an odd duck, he never noticed that Casey got up during the night, left with Caylee and returned later without her, until the next morning. I notice if my dog jumps off the bed during the night and she only weighs 10 lbs. I wake up almost immediately.

[Heyes]

PLEASE EVERYONE skip, scroll and ignore
so we don't get shut down PLEASE:crying:

:rose:FOR BABY CAYLEE
REST IN PEACE SWEETIE
JUSTICE FOR YOU WILL BE SERVED SOON

You're right Banjo Granny!
Thank you

[really3997]

I have been looking around for a while trying to find that home. The only one I found is a forclosure down the road...but it is the wrong color

My best guess is the house two doors down that I know is vacant it is the one that had the POD there for most of the time during the news coverage. It also seems to be the most run down but again I could be wrong just guessing..

[?noanswer]

"By virtue of his representation" WHAAAAAAt?

Even the wizard himself could't sell this line were we in the Land of Oz.

:laugh:

I'm beginning to wonder about Conway. First he comes out and announces that the A's will not allow LP to attend the memorial and now this. I thought lawyers tried to be more discreet than this by using a bunch of double speak. But he doesn't try to hide anything. I know he has been a lawyer for many years. I wonder what his record is. JMO

[Pooh]

My best guess is the house two doors down that I know is vacant it is the one that had the POD there for most of the time during the news coverage. It also seems to be the most run down but again I could be wrong just guessing..

I've missed some discussion I think about the vacant houses. Are you thinking that's where Casey took Caylee the night of the fight and that's where she was killed? Trying to understand the interest in the vacant houses.....

[ruth66]

The bottom line is that the A's lied. They lied about having the kidnappers under surveillance, they lied about Casey, they misled the investigation...all when they say they love and want Caylee home.

The request for immunity is just power for the course...protect Cindy, George, Lee and Casey at all costs, and Caylee got lost in the shuffle of a bunch of lying adults.

Legally, maybe they are safe, IMO morally they are guilty.


Bolding mine. ITA and with that I'm off to get some work done. Have a good day everyone! BBL

[kitty1182]

I've missed some discussion I think about the vacant houses. Are you thinking that's where Casey took Caylee the night of the fight and that's where she was killed? Trying to understand the interest in the vacant houses.....



I think at some point she had to have her in the trunk because of the smell...She may have took her there later, like the day she borrowed the shovel..imo

[?noanswer]

You have obviously missed the threat of one of the protesters who said they had better not see them on the street ! The same protester who stalked their home at 1:30 in the morning who was in their driveway throwing things at their garage door !

The Protestors should not have been there. G & C should never have come outside. All were at fault. JMO

[ishkabibble]

ITA. Casey also told Cindy in the jail house visit that she didn't let Caylee go to TonE's because of the pot smoking but yet we know Casey was there several times.

jmo

Amy also told LE that it bothered her that Casey let Caylee be around during gathering when therer was drinking and a lot of noise and partying. I think she recalled an incident when Caylee was asleep on the couch, and awoke and AMy was able to reassure her and she fell back asleep. I doubt if the pot smoking at TonE's was the reason, more likely she just didn't want to be bothered with her.

[AbbyNormal]

I don't see why they necessarily would have. Even if there was the argument we have heard about. So there was an argument and she left with Caylee. That had probably happened before many times and Casey and Caylee always both came back alive and well.

(Actually I think someone else said something similar upthread.)

And if there was an argument.....how do we know she left in a huff immediately after the argument? We don't! They may have all just got on with things and figuratively "kissed and made up."Good Morning ~ How do we know if Caylee left with Casey after the arguement?

[happy2bme]

Anyone know when the Aug 14 interview will be released?

[Mimi428]

90% of the problems wouldn't have happened if the Anthony's had not reacted to the protestors. I'm sure they were annoying and aggravating to listen to, but by engaging in conflicts with them they made sure that the protestors would continue to appear each night, hoping for some excitement.

Seems like another instance in which we all want one measuring stick used for the Anthonys (not including Casey here), but a different measuring stick for everybody else.

If you can't cut an ounce of slack for people who were dealing with a dead grandchild & a daughter in jail for the murder, why the heck would you offer up a ton of slack for people who had NO such extremes of emotion or tragedy to deal with 24/7?

Where's the consistency?

:shrug:

[happygert]

I've already said no I don't have a link. It was on one of the nightly shows and a local reporter is the one who said it. I want to say it was on Nancy Grace but I'm not sure because I don't watch her that much. I usually watch Greta.

nope NO protesters at A's after Caylee was found didnt happen Police were there...I watch NG every night sometimes 3 or 4 times (7, 9, 12 and 2am ) just in case I miss anything..NEVER HAPPENED,,,,AS matter of fact police said that any nonsense at the A's WOULD NOT BE TOLORATED.. NOPE never happened:no:

[shelbar53]

I've already said no I don't have a link. It was on one of the nightly shows and a local reporter is the one who said it. I want to say it was on Nancy Grace but I'm not sure because I don't watch her that much. I usually watch Greta.

OK, I spent awhile searching google and blogs about the protestors at the A home. I didnt find anything about protestors being there after the reamins were found. tons of stuff when casey was at the home but not a thing after the body was found.

[SavannahStar]

Good Morning ~ How do we know if Caylee left with Casey after the arguement?

Well yeh.

And did they leave at all??

Lots of "assumptions" being made here.

[NYGalPal]

The Protestors should not have been there. G & C should never have come outside. All were at fault. JMO

Right, everyone was at fault, including the As.

[Neffy]

I'm beginning to wonder about Conway. First he comes out and announces that the A's will not allow LP to attend the memorial and now this. I thought lawyers tried to be more discreet than this by using a bunch of double speak. But he doesn't try to hide anything. I know he has been a lawyer for many years. I wonder what his record is. JMO

ITA. Soverign rights to the tapes he's declared.

Advises D.Casey that it's not necessary for him to get an Attorney as he put it " I should now I'm an Attorney". LOL

What a circus.

[dixielover]

Again , you are so very wrong and I can not help in pointing it all out ~!

This is how I feel about it -WHO Cares- you have a dead child, a murder, a family that has done nothing but lie, people coming out of the wood work making money off this child including the grandparents, lawyers, PIs and not even the MR who found her. Frankly they all need to be taken behind the barn as my grandfather use to say. A child was murdered and she shouldn't be an object for sale to the highest bidder. Makes me sick!! jmo

[Katprint]

Thanks for your reply. I guess what I want to know is if in fact the monies that come from the above instances (licensing, donations, etc.) are actually part of Caylee's estate or the straight ownership of the person/persons who set up these opportunities now after her death. Can these money making opportunities bypass Caylee's estate altogether or is the inheritance the key? Where is the line drawn to what determines Caylee's "ownership"?

I appreciate you helping me understand this thing you humans call "law" ever so much!
Anybody who tries to exploit Caylee's image (pictures, video, life story, etc.) could be sued by Caylee's estate for infringing Caylee's right to publicity. The best example of this that comes to mind is Elvis Presley's estate which diligently protects its rights against anyone else who might try to exploit Elvis' image including sound recordings.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Pooh]

I think at some point she had to have her in the trunk because of the smell...She may have took her there later, like the day she borrowed the shovel..imo

I do too but she killed her someplace and I was thinking maybe it was in one of the vacant houses. I don't recall any discussion of where posters think Caylee was killed. Has there been and I missed it?

[Heyes]

No he is an idiot.

Why in the world would you approach a bunch of teenagers on your driveway at 1 in morning that appear violent?

Cindy needs to show him how to dial 911

Good thing LE came out and got that gun. Can you imagine? By the way, what was with george holding that hose with that ridiculous look on his face? Wth was he thinking he was accomplishing?

[AbbyNormal]

The attorneys are going to need attorneys.Good morning Mr. Shark,

Look who else is hiring ~


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-fbi-hiring-010609,0,2269190.story

[neid_77]

don't believe not one person took a look at what i posted at the bottom of page 23 not trying to be mean but guess you have to be a long member of this board to get any attention i only saw 1 reply to what i had posted....it's good trust me i like everyone on here alot!! you guys give so much info please take time to go look!:thumbsup::smile:

[dixielover]

Anybody who tries to exploit Caylee's image (pictures, video, life story, etc.) could be sued by Caylee's estate for infringing Caylee's right to publicity. The best example of this that comes to mind is Elvis Presley's estate which diligently protects its rights against anyone else who might try to exploit Elvis' image including sound recordings.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Fortunately for Elvis- there were people who actually had some brains-these people will be out there fighting in the front yard over the very last picture of Caylee-imo

[Neffy]

It will probably come out when the tape from the guy that was taping hoover when he was taping D. Casey is released.:shrug:

:thumbsup:

[NYGalPal]

Please everyone, report and ignore. We'd like to keep this forum open no matter how hard that one tries to get it shut.

[breezie]

Anybody who tries to exploit Caylee's image (pictures, video, life story, etc.) could be sued by Caylee's estate for infringing Caylee's right to publicity. The best example of this that comes to mind is Elvis Presley's estate which diligently protects its rights against anyone else who might try to exploit Elvis' image including sound recordings.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

sad thing is...the folks that would ordinarily fight for Caylee's estate are the ones exploiting her for her murderer's gain. Sick.

[shelbar53]

It will probably come out when the tape from the guy that was taping hoover when he was taping D. Casey is released.:shrug:

you mean Moe?

[Neffy]

I'm waiting for the property owner to sue Hoover Casey and the Anthony's for trespassing and claiming the tapes himself exploiting his property :w00t:

[happygert]

NO protesters at A's home after Caylee was found..A's didnt even go home they Lawyered up with a criminal defense attorney went to the "RITZ CARLTON" the wanted IMMUNITY! LE had it secured! even made Mallory Leave.. NO PROTESTERS!

[breezie]

They were pounding in no trespassing signs that the protesters ripped from the ground on a daily basis ! They had every righy to do so , in FACT they had to have the signs posted ,had the protesters not ripped them out daily , maybe they would have been forced to stay inside with no way to go for food or home supplies .

those Anthonys were spoiling for a fight. They couldn't wait to charge out of the house. We saw it. We know what happened.

[AbbyNormal]

And lyed to Larry King, or did George lie to the fbi.....Which one is it?

Lying to Larry king is encouraged, lying to the FBI is bad news.

Which one is it?
Hi Mac,

I think the A's did both. They are non-discriminatory that way.

[Mimi428]

First KC will have to admit to murder if they are going to blame her mother- do you think she will eventually confess- I kind of have my doubts but who knows. imo

I have no earthly idea what defense strategy Baez will go with. But let's say Casey is convicted - the same routine of "her evil mother pushed her into it" could be used to try to get her a reduced sentence.

KWIM?

[shelbar53]

don't believe not one person took a look at what i posted at the bottom of page 23 not trying to be mean but guess you have to be a long member of this board to get any attention i only saw 1 reply to what i had posted....it's good trust me i like everyone on here alot!! you guys give so much info please take time to go look!:thumbsup::smile:

I looked at your link, it was about some crazy murderer that pulled out his eyes and ate them.

[SavannahStar]

Please everyone, report and ignore. We'd like to keep this forum open no matter how hard that one tries to get it shut.


I don't see anyone trying to get it shut.....why in the WORLD would anyone want it shut? We're all posting here, right? :rolleyes: I haven't seen anything reportable, against TOS, either. A lot of rudeness though!!! :thumbdown:

[neid_77]

I looked at your link, it was about some crazy murderer that pulled out his eyes and ate them.


that link didnt' work look at the bottom of page 23

[NYGalPal]

Weren't the protesters not on the As property? Yes, I beleive so. No, the As had not right to do what they did. Learn something about property rights. :thumbdown:

[happygert]

sad thing is...the folks that would ordinarily fight for Caylee's estate are the ones exploiting her for her murderer's gain. Sick.

ita!..........

[shelbar53]

that link didnt' work look at the bottom of page 23

can you please repost the link, i only have up to page 21...there is no page 23 for me. thanks

[Lavenia]

Anybody who tries to exploit Caylee's image (pictures, video, life story, etc.) could be sued by Caylee's estate for infringing Caylee's right to publicity. The best example of this that comes to mind is Elvis Presley's estate which diligently protects its rights against anyone else who might try to exploit Elvis' image including sound recordings.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Thanks again. I hated to be bothering you with so many questions but I needed the answers to help me formulate my opinions about some players motivations in this. You're much appreciated here!:seeya:

[ishkabibble]

Seems like another instance in which we all want one measuring stick used for the Anthonys (not including Casey here), but a different measuring stick for everybody else.

If you can't cut an ounce of slack for people who were dealing with a dead grandchild & a daughter in jail for the murder, why the heck would you offer up a ton of slack for people who had NO such extremes of emotion or tragedy to deal with 24/7?

Where's the consistency?

:shrug:
Unfortunately once it was ruled by the courts that the protestors had a right to be there, the Anthony's were stuck with them, that is why I feel they ( the Anthony's) should have acted differently. I totally disagree with the protestors. I do not believe they should have been there hounding the Anthony's. But the court ruled they had the right to do so and that trumps my feelings or sadly even the Anthony's feelings.
they had two choices I feel, stay and put up with it, don't react, don't confront and hope they go away, or leave and stay somewhere else.
Not much of a choice but that's what the choices were.

[kitty1182]

don't believe not one person took a look at what i posted at the bottom of page 23 not trying to be mean but guess you have to be a long member of this board to get any attention i only saw 1 reply to what i had posted....it's good trust me i like everyone on here alot!! you guys give so much info please take time to go look!:thumbsup::smile:

LOL, this board goes so fast I can't keep up..Can you post it again?

[happygert]

Please everyone, report and ignore. We'd like to keep this forum open no matter how hard that one tries to get it shut.

OK sittin on fingers....screaming at the monitor....

[CANDYKISSES]

don't believe not one person took a look at what i posted at the bottom of page 23 not trying to be mean but guess you have to be a long member of this board to get any attention i only saw 1 reply to what i had posted....it's good trust me i like everyone on here alot!! you guys give so much info please take time to go look!:thumbsup::smile:

Neid, SM is known for past virus send-offs, so if some don't click, that may be why.

How about you providing a synopsis of what you feel is so beneficial if you please????

JMO:thumbup:

[shelbar53]

Here's a link for you to earlier discussion about it right here. You may not have seen or heard it but it happened. It was around Dec 20th so I was wrong about the date by a couple of days. Feel free to use the link and follow the threads to find it. And FYI not all of the nightly shows have full transcripts. Greta only has partial ones on her site.



12-21-2008, 04:43 PM
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Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by True2Blues
It will be a futile effort. There's no controlling the A's.

On the other hand, the A's think they have to control everyone else. They want a private memorial to Caylee, one that will exclude other people, why? Control. Dismantle the memorial others made for Caylee, why? Control. They will put out a plea for everyone to respect anything they do as grieving, but they're trying to stem the outpouring of emotion from the public, why? Control. Because they're so selfish and self centered, they even want to control the way people might grieve for the loss of an innocent child. It has to be all about them or not at all. It's pathetic.



Many people have private memorials. It doesn't make them selfish and it has nothing to do with control. People are/were standing outside their house screaming babykiller (as of last night) so why in the world would they want an open memorial and risk those same people disrupting a service that will (and should) be ALL about Caylee?
__________________

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12568215#post12568215

that link is a quote from you not a newspaper article. quoting what you said isnt the confirmation we were looking for. where is it written in a transcript or newpaper article that protesters were outside the A home screaming baby killer after the remains were found. It didnt happen

[msgatorslayer]

I read your post, but i am a little weak on this cell phone ping business. I would assume the phone picks up the tower closest to it, unless weather etc has an effect on it?

What are your thoughts? And what is the date in question?

I learned in the Duckett case that there is a 5 mile radius for cell pings.

[NYGalPal]

don't believe not one person took a look at what i posted at the bottom of page 23 not trying to be mean but guess you have to be a long member of this board to get any attention i only saw 1 reply to what i had posted....it's good trust me i like everyone on here alot!! you guys give so much info please take time to go look!:thumbsup::smile:

I missed it. Board moves way too fast.

[WillowInFlight]

that link is a quote from you not a newspaper article. quoting what you said isnt the confirmation we were looking for. where is it written in a transcript or newpaper article that protesters were outside the A home screaming baby killer after the remains were found. It didnt happen

I never saw that either, of course when ever Casey was let out on bond, it happened. I would think if it happened after the remains were found LE would be all over those people. IMO

[SavannahStar]

OK sittin on fingers....screaming at the monitor....

I think debating/discussing even with those with whom you disagree, without causing your blood pressure to rise and your temper to flare, is always the better way to go.

:seeya:

[canada]

I read your post, but i am a little weak on this cell phone ping business. I would assume the phone picks up the tower closest to it, unless weather etc has an effect on it?

What are your thoughts? And what is the date in question?

Cell phone pings can tell you what tower but not the exact location.

[neid_77]

i'll try once more but if it doesn't work go to page23 on this thread at the bottom that link worked....if this works look at the second video 17-19 pings of casey stop it at 1:36-1:38 on the video tell me that casey marie anthony was not at the place where caylee was found

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equusearch-is-back-in-orlando-fl-searching-for-caylee-anthony-searching-areas-of-casey-anthony-cell-phone-ping-activity/

[CANDYKISSES]

and cindy with ball bats and dont forget the water hoses.....didnt george also grab or push a woman....

Yup, yup and yup Gerty, that's certainly been presented here in the last six months.

While I don't condone the PROTESTING like that, I certainly can understand why some of the people in that community were frustrated with all the lies and enabling flowing, not to mention the MONEY EXPENDED by OC while some individual(s) sat on their behinds with the information right on the tip of their tongue(s) IMO.

I hope IF the ANTHONY FAMILY NEEDS FULL IMMUNITY,that there is a plan in place for RESTITUTION after such time it becomes KNOWN FOR A FACT how long the hoax was perpetrated. JMOOC. :thumbup:

[breezie]

I never saw that either, of course when ever Casey was let out on bond, it happened. I would think if it happened after the remains were found LE would be all over those people. IMO

and the media. You would think there would be at least one video. :shrug:

[trt]

i'll try once more but if it doesn't work go to page23 on this thread at the bottom that link worked....if this works look at the second video 17-19 pings of casey stop it at 1:36-1:38 on the video tell me that casey marie anthony was not at the place where caylee was found

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equusearch-is-back-in-orlando-fl-searching-for-caylee-anthony-searching-areas-of-casey-anthony-cell-phone-ping-activity/

The problem with this is that the area is so close to her home, so she could have been any number of places (within a few miles radius) of her home(Lee's home, etc.) and the pings would have hit those towers. So I don't know that LE can use Cell pings to determine that Casey was in that exact place where Caylee's body was found. If it were the airport or other obscure place, it would be a little more difficult for the defense to explain away.

JMO

[AbbyNormal]

Well yeh.

And did they leave at all??

Lots of "assumptions" being made here.So maybe Caylee never left Hopespring drive (alive) after Father's day.

It still looks like Cindy is the last known person to have an alive Caylee.

[Mimi428]

So yes, ConchGirl, I agree, they should have NEVER came outside.

jmo


Never gone outside on THEIR OWN PROPERTY?


Nooooo, can't agree with that. Florida adopted a Castle Doctrine statute while Jeb was in office. It was written as a "stand your ground" statute in that state. The Anthony residence, WITHOUT QUESTION, would be a place they were legally allowed to be.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0776/SEC013.HTM

(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

(4) A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person's dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.

[trt]

I can verify that it did happen. I saw it too. Its hard to forget when you see something so vile and disgusting.

Can you please find the link and post it here? Most of us that follow this case closely have never seen it and that would be of interest to me.

TIA

[msgatorslayer]

5 miles?!!??

man that muddy's the waters a little

Yes, it does. This was 2 years ago though so technology may have changed a bit. More towers being built, etc.

But in the Duckett case LE was wanting to know what Melinda did all weekend long and she wouldn't tell them. They released maps of her cell activity after she killed herself. There was much discussion then about cell pings.

[WillowInFlight]

Not to get o/t here but will someone open another thread?....we are at 1076 and it's movin a little slow


Thanks

I thought we decided on one daily thread?

[happy2bme]

that link is a quote from you not a newspaper article. quoting what you said isnt the confirmation we were looking for. where is it written in a transcript or newpaper article that protesters were outside the A home screaming baby killer after the remains were found. It didnt happen


This is the first I have heard of it.

[Loves2Read]

The problem with this is that the area is so close to her home, so she could have been any number of places (within a few miles radius) of her home(Lee's home, etc.) and the pings would have hit those towers. So I don't know that LE can use Cell pings to determine that Casey was in that exact place where Caylee's body was found. If it were the airport or other obscure place, it would be a little more difficult for the defense to explain away.

JMO

They can place her on the street that Caylee's body was found. BF picked her up on that very street.... seems her car ran out of gas around there. This was around the 18th of June.

[trt]

They can place her on the street that Caylee's body was found. BF picked her up on that very street.... seems her car ran out of gas around there. This was around the 18th of June.

Oh yes, I agree that they have other ways of placing her there(also another person said they saw her jogging there, but she denied it in a text)...but the OP wanted us to take a look at the pings as a way of determining that. I don't think it can be determined solely on the pings.

JMO

[ishkabibble]

They can place her on the street that Caylee's body was found. BF picked her up on that very street.... seems her car ran out of gas around there. This was around the 18th of June.

Same date LE thinks body was dumped...

[trt]

I would like to assist you, unfortunately, I don't have time to do that for you. It is likely to be found on one of the links threads.
Good luck.

You aren't doing it *for me*, but you would be backing up an assertion that you made. At any rate, there is no information on this in the links threads or any of the other google searches I did. I also watch NG pretty faithfully as do others here. I just wanted to know if anyone was willing to back up this very interesting and noteworthy information. But I guess not...so I'll go back to my original thought which is that it did not occur. Thanks, though.

JMO

[breezie]

Can you please find the link and post it here? Most of us that follow this case closely have never seen it and that would be of interest to me.

TIA

It's one of those super secret Anthony tapes. It's a king's ransom to see it. Of course, their supporters can see it for free. :tonguewag:

[Stella Rose]

PLEASE EVERYONE skip, scroll and ignore
so we don't get shut down PLEASE:crying:

:rose:FOR BABY CAYLEE
REST IN PEACE SWEETIE
JUSTICE FOR YOU WILL BE SERVED SOON

This bears repeating. CW has already threatened to close the board until trial... sorry to be the board police, but she was serious.

[WillowInFlight]

George on the afternoon at 12:50 according to the testimony.

I don't believe George saw them as he claimed.

[dixielover]

It doesn't matter to me about that statute. I stand by what I said. The A's knew there was potential for trouble. They may have had a right to come outside, but should have called 911.
jmo

Well, at least we know now that the As are capable of staying in their house and keeping their mouths shut. Kind of like we learn that KC could call 911. jmo

[shelbar53]

i'll try once more but if it doesn't work go to page23 on this thread at the bottom that link worked....if this works look at the second video 17-19 pings of casey stop it at 1:36-1:38 on the video tell me that casey marie anthony was not at the place where caylee was found

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equusearch-is-back-in-orlando-fl-searching-for-caylee-anthony-searching-areas-of-casey-anthony-cell-phone-ping-activity/

yes it does ping in the exact area where the body was found. according to the time line it was between 3:56 and 4:05 Pm, she was texting tony. that same video is also on utube and here is the link to utube if people dont want to go to SM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBXNG_aePGA&eurl=http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equusearch-is-back-in-orlando-fl-searching-for-caylee-anthony-searching-areas-of-cas

[*MoonRider*]

Not to get o/t here but will someone open another thread?....we are at 1076 and it's movin a little slow


Thanks

I don't know how to start a new one.

[trt]

It's one of those super secret Anthony tapes. It's a king's ransom to see it. Of course, their supporters can see it for free. :tonguewag:


LOLOL...yeah, I'm pretty sure that this didn't occur. I wish that those who are asserting it would have the courtesy to either produce the link or admit that they *misremembered*(LOL)...but I doubt we'll see that anytime soon. The protestors were a *HUGE* deal when they were outside of the As house during that timeframe...it is HIGHLY unlikely that we would have heard SOMETHING about such disgusting behavior AFTER Caylee's remains were found.

JMO

[Loves2Read]

Oh yes, I agree that they have other ways of placing her there(also another person said they saw her jogging there, but she denied it in a text)...but the OP wanted us to take a look at the pings as a way of determining that. I don't think it can be determined solely on the pings.

JMO


I agree... It would be pretty tough to prove solely on the pings.

[destiny1]

Never gone outside on THEIR OWN PROPERTY?


Nooooo, can't agree with that. Florida adopted a Castle Doctrine statute while Jeb was in office. It was written as a "stand your ground" statute in that state. The Anthony residence, WITHOUT QUESTION, would be a place they were legally allowed to be.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0776/SEC013.HTM

(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

(4) A person who unlawfully and by force enters or attempts to enter a person's dwelling, residence, or occupied vehicle is presumed to be doing so with the intent to commit an unlawful act involving force or violence.


and in my state, you can shoot a burglar as long as it isn't in the back, but most people wouldn't unless their lives were at risk.


The problem here is the spirit of the law IMO moreso than the law itself.

George should have left it alone and had the OCSD or PD handle the problem.

The protestors were classless in their actions.

[AbbyNormal]

ABBBBBBBBBYYYYYYY....the voice of reason:rolleyes:

Bout time you got here....by the way click, ignore , and post is the rule of the day.

Been talking about Cindy's involvement, which as you know, I think she is up to her neck in it
(Don't know about the voice of reason)!

Cindy has bothered me since she was on TV saying how the ladder had been left up in the pool. I don't see Cindy as trying to protect Casey. I see Cindy as trying to protect Cindy. I am anxious (like most of us) to find out -- What did she know and When did she know it.

I really believe either one of those two Anthony women are fully capable of committing this crime against Caylee and having no remorse.

moo and all that

[CANDYKISSES]

I can verify that it did happen. I saw it too. Its hard to forget when you see something so vile and disgusting.

So, where is the link to this allegation?

[?noanswer]

I don't know how to start a new one.


I'll go check and if no one else has started one, I will. Seems everytime I start one, another person does one at the same time. JMO

[happygert]

yes it does ping in the exact area where the body was found. according to the time line it was between 3:56 and 4:05 Pm, she was texting tony. that same video is also on utube and here is the link to utube if people dont want to go to SM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBXNG_aePGA&eurl=http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equusearch-is-back-in-orlando-fl-searching-for-caylee-anthony-searching-areas-of-cas

Dang cant get the sound to work....

[CANDYKISSES]

yes it does ping in the exact area where the body was found. according to the time line it was between 3:56 and 4:05 Pm, she was texting tony. that same video is also on utube and here is the link to utube if people dont want to go to SM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBXNG_aePGA&eurl=http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/05/texas-equusearch-is-back-in-orlando-fl-searching-for-caylee-anthony-searching-areas-of-cas

Thank you shel.

[?noanswer]

New thread if anyone wants to start posting on it.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12646392#post12646392


JMO

[shelbar53]

Dang cant get the sound to work....

there is no sound with that video

[SavannahStar]

George on the afternoon at 12:50 according to the testimony.

Exactly. But most do not choose to believe that testimony, I guess because it "fits" better with their speculation that there was a HUGE fight and Casey stormed out of the house with Caylee the night before. Even though there is NO testimony to that. Just heresay.

Go figure.

[happy2bme]

I don't believe George saw them as he claimed.

I don't either Willow. Lee claimed in his testimony that GA "thought" he saw them at a quarter till 12:00.

[WillowInFlight]

(Don't know about the voice of reason)!

Cindy has bothered me since she was on TV saying how the ladder had been left up in the pool. I don't see Cindy as trying to protect Casey. I see Cindy as trying to protect Cindy. I am anxious (like most of us) to find out -- What did she know and When did she know it.

I really believe either one of those two Anthony women are fully capable of committing this crime against Caylee and having no remorse.

moo and all that

So you believe that the third phone call she made to LE reporting Caylee kidnapped was an act?

[canada]

yes it does ping in the exact area where the body was found. according to the time line it was between 3:56 and 4:05 Pm, she was texting tony. that same video is also on utube and here is the link to utube if people dont want to go to SM


Pings don't tell exact areas or streets. Pings tell what tower. Where that person is in relation to that tower is your guess.

This is something I am wondering. If Casey were using her cell phone at her parents home and then another time using the phone by the burial site could that all be off the same tower...are the locations that close.
Personally if I were out disposing of a body I would be too busy to talk or text. I am not trying to be funny here...just saying I find that idea odd.

[WillowInFlight]

Willow did he go back on that claim?

Or is it your opinion?

My post was I don't "believe" so it was strictly my opinion.

[CANDYKISSES]

I just posted Regina's post about it from Dec 20th. Is that proof enough?

Given the amount of resources the media has put forth on this case and coverage outside their home, I would think there is some kind of confirmation via the media in the form of a link.

So are you saying this was mentioned somewhere in passing, yet there is no mention on the web other than right here? :confused:

JMO

[breezie]

So, where is the link to this allegation?

I would think something so vile and disgusting would be all over the media.

[WillowInFlight]

I would think something so vile and disgusting would be all over the media.

ITA, specially on NG, she does have her producer down there on the site.

[WillowInFlight]

And i have the recordings of him saying 12:50.....which is it George?

There is also recordings of George saying the car smelled like death, and then you have him on LKL saying it was trash, which is it George?

[AbbyNormal]

George on the afternoon at 12:50 according to the testimony.Yes, that is what George said.

(Remind me again, are the Anthony's still asking for immunity)?

[SavannahStar]

There is also recordings of George saying the car smelled like death, and then you have him on LKL saying it was trash, which is it George?

We should crucify him, I guess, for his mind not being able to grasp that his granddaughter was dead inside that trunk? That he somehow convinced himself that couldn't be true?:sad:

[trt]

Gal Pal,



Can't you post what is fact , the protesters were in the A's driveway , what are you trying to preach to me about property rights ? Go wipe the dust off your books and learn for yourself , your not teaching me a thing ,in FACT it is you who needs the brushing up .


You are always quick to run others down and they cry later , its old !

Actually, they were outside of their property, otherwise the police would have ticketed them for trespassing. They may have been a nuisance, but they stayed outside of the As property which is why the police did not/could not remove them from their proteest. Anyone who stepped outside of their first amendment right was dealt with appropriately. Other times, the As were just lashing out because they didn't want the protestors there AT ALL.


JMO

[Mimi428]

It doesn't matter to me about that statute. I stand by what I said. The A's knew there was potential for trouble. They may have had a right to come outside, but should have called 911.
jmo

I certainly believe they should have called 911. No question about it.

But the idea that they should cower in their own homes, when people have stepped onto their property - that they were somehow in the wrong, legally, to go outside - no. I don't believe that is how it works in a state with a 'stand your ground' castle doctrine law. I believe the protesters were completely in the wrong, legally, the minute any one of them put a foot on the Anthony property.

When the hue & cry is for LAW & ORDER, LAW & ORDER, LAW & ORDER, lock'em up if they break the law, we want justice! - then by golly, that applies to the protesters, too.

JMO

[WillowInFlight]

Gotcha.....Can I ask why?...Just curious if you think he is protecting Casey as well as Cindy. Haven't spoken to you in a while

I think after George talked to Cindy, he was given a "script" to follow. I don't get why George always has to look at Cindy for approval when he is talking. JMO

[Heyes]

I think after George talked to Cindy, he was given a "script" to follow. I don't get why George always has to look at Cindy for approval when he is talking. JMO

Cuz he's a homeless guy without cindy's approval.
IMO

[trt]

Exactly. But most do not choose to believe that testimony, I guess because it "fits" better with their speculation that there was a HUGE fight and Casey stormed out of the house with Caylee the night before. Even though there is NO testimony to that. Just heresay.

Go figure.

Actually because it is really strange that Caylee never once came out of that room until 12:50 PM with her mom on that day, when George had previously stated that he and Caylee ate breakfast together normally. Also because he can't remember which one of his *favorite* shows he was watching(he said *some news thing* and was corrected by Cindy that it was food network show). Also because there is no hour long show that comes on food network at 12:50 PM on Weekdays(normal scheduling is for Unwrapped which is 30 minutes long). So its not just because it doesn't fit with the theory of an angry fight the night before, but because it also doesn't fit with anything else that was said about this last Caylee *sighting* by George.

JMO

[ishkabibble]

I think after George talked to Cindy, he was given a "script" to follow. I don't get why George always has to look at Cindy for approval when he is talking. JMO

because she pays the bills!

[WillowInFlight]

We should crucify him, I guess, for his mind not being able to grasp that his granddaughter was dead inside that trunk? That he somehow convinced himself that couldn't be true?:sad:

Now Savannah, you know me better than that. But George was the one that said he hoped it wasn't his granddaughter. I think they knew early on.

[trt]

I certainly believe they should have called 911. No question about it.

But the idea that they should cower in their own homes, when people have stepped onto their property - that they were somehow in the wrong, legally, to do so - no. I don't believe that is how it works in a state with a 'stand your ground' castle doctrine law. I believe the protesters were completely in the wrong, legally, the minute any one of them put a foot on the Anthony property.

When the hue & cry is for LAW & ORDER, LAW & ORDER, LAW & ORDER, lock'em up if they break the law, we want justice! - then by golly, that applies to the protesters, too.

JMO


I don't think they should have cowered in their homes, but the reality is that the As were within their rights(most times) just as the protestors were within their rights(most times). So we are left to post what we *think* either party should have done to alleviate the situation since neither was breaking the law (most times).

JMO

[AbbyNormal]

So you believe that the third phone call she made to LE reporting Caylee kidnapped was an act?I'm not sure what to think about that 3rd phone call.

The first phone call was about $$ and the car.
Cindy didn't want the police at her house. She tried to take Casey to them.....

Second phone call was about $$, car, and possibly missing grandbaby.
She is awfully calm for having smelled death in the car earlier that day.

Why ?? Why does she wait till the 3rd phone call ??

It just doesn't add up. I would like to understand, What did she know and When did she know it?

[Adonna]

I think after George talked to Cindy, he was given a "script" to follow. I don't get why George always has to look at Cindy for approval when he is talking. JMO

I totally agree and that Cindy asked George to go to his job in time of crisis in the family. I will never understand why Cindy thought she needed to take control of the situation.

[nc1948]

Quote:
Originally Posted by In Pro Se
The presumption that Caylee wants any of you to speak for her is wrong to begin with. Caylee loved her grandparents, and they loved her more than you could ever imagine. If Caylee could speak for herself, I believe she would be saying leave them alone, and crying over the treatment of them by heartless strangers.

imo

nc highlighted this: If Caylee could speak for herself, I believe she would be saying leave them alone,



Thanks nc.
I bolded the other part. Heartless?? I think not.
jmo


I for one have had a heavy heart since this started. Most of the posters on here have a lot of heart and would have stood behind these grandparents in their support of their daughter if they had not started out lying and covering for her. I don't think I have ever stated anything that I thought Caylee would say or feel. But I have said what I thought about the House of Anthony. Quite simply my dislike and amazement of them gets worse each and every day. Their grandchild is missing and their priorities are setting up website asking for donations, driving around a billboard with nonworking phone number, telling us to get off our arse and look for Caylee, and then when volunteers do, saying they are maggots, they are stealing donation jars and are alcholics.Cindy says we will vote her daughter Mother of the Year after she has just caught her stealing from her grandmother and Amy. Cindy says her daughter is a great mother, but Cindy has not seen her in a month (well she says that once and then in interview say that is a lie) Cindy says we are all going to hell because we do not believe Casey. Cindy goes on national TV to tell us how much weight she has lost and that she gets no sleep, but never asks the kidnappers to return her grandaughter. She gives LE/FBi the hairbrush/toothbrush that belonged to Caylee and Casey because Caylee own brush is in another room farther away. Wow, my grandchild missing I would drive across town to get whatever FBI/LE was asking for. Then jokes about she should have given the dogs. I see nothing funny about FBI/Le trying to help find a missing child. IF Cindy believed Caylee was alive why of why did she not do everything possible to help find her. This is why I believe Cindy knew she was dead.

Rant over. Boy do I feel better.

[happy2bme]

I totally agree and that Cindy asked George to go to his job in time of crisis in the family. I will never understand why Cindy thought she needed to take control of the situation.


I have also wondered about George saying Lee and Cindy did not want him investigating....anyone else remember this? IIRC it is in one of his interviews.

[CANDYKISSES]

I'm trying to remember where it was mentioned. I don't watch NG so I know it wasn't her show. I want to say either Greta or a news blurb. Greta doesn't do full transcripts. She only does partials of the main person she interviews each night. And there aren't always links to news blurbs. Whichever it was on a local reporter is the one who talked about it.


I'm just going to leave it at this bookie. Rumors fly fast and furious. By the time I glanced at the board Saturday, Kronk had been mentioned as a kidnapper and possible rapist by GERALDO. We now know a little different, no?

Then you have something like this and I am left wondering if that was put out there for some ACTION and given it doesn't seem to have legs or anything substantial to link it to, IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN PLACE. But that is JMO. I honestly think there would be more made of it the week of Christmas but that's just my belief.

There's a difference between calling YOU a LIAR and questioning where the information came from and if it was simply rumor mongering and gossip with people trying to stir the pot back up on Hopespring.

No hard feelings but I'm not sold on that one as being one of the few truths we have in this case. :wink:

[trt]

I don't watch NG so I know it wasn't on there. I have posted links from 3 posters here, one of them myself, who heard it. One other poster has said s/he heard it. Are y'all calling all of us liars?

I think that if Baez and Lee are the *sources*, then it might not be you three posters that everyone thinks are the *liars*

JMO

[Brattnt]

I would think something so vile and disgusting would be all over the media.

This link is from Dec. 13 2008....Just a few days after Caylee was found..

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8067350&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Things mostly quiet at Anthony home

It was a relatively quiet day outside the Anthony home on Saturday, that was until the uncle of missing Caylee and brother of Casey stormed out the front door.

Surprising the media and onlookers who watched, Lee Anthony walked over to a makeshift memorial in front of the house, grabbing up the teddy bears and pictures that were left there in memory of his three year old niece.

Shortly thereafter, Jose Baez drove up to the house in this silver Cadillac along with with members of his legal team.

"Uh, we're just doing our work, really," explained Baez.

Earlier today, passersby continued a slow and fading procession through along Hopespring Drive.

[Ladyhawk]

I don't believe George saw them as he claimed.

Why would he lie about that morning unless it was to take any suspicion off Cindy as the last person to see Caylee?

[CANDYKISSES]

I totally agree and that Cindy asked George to go to his job in time of crisis in the family. I will never understand why Cindy thought she needed to take control of the situation.

That has puzzled me from the time I found that to be true as we know it. WOW, why send George onto WORK when something so questionable is going on and you don't even know where the occupants of the car are?

Lord, I can't get over that myself. :w00t:

[CANDYKISSES]

Cause George is dumb when it comes to street smarts?.....Or Cindy has something on the guy


No, I don't think that's it referencing George, but if you add in his call to Lee, (unless Lee really underplayed that one) it's just a little strange, but alas, the family and their dynamics are a little strange IMOO. :unsure:

[Stella Rose]

I don't think they should have cowered in their homes, but the reality is that the As were within their rights(most times) just as the protestors were within their rights(most times). So we are left to post what we *think* either party should have done to alleviate the situation since neither was breaking the law (most times).

JMO

I agree completely. I think the protests were tacky and in very bad taste, but I also think the Anthony family egged it on at times. They could have come and go quietly and I think things would have died down rather quickly. Instead, the got into altercations with the protestors, fueling the fire IMO.

Since the discovery of Caylee's remains we have seen that the Anthonys can come and go quietly. I haven't seen them at all - has anyone.

I am not saying the protestors were right - I just think everyone could have handled it better and it would have gone away a lot sooner.

[WillowInFlight]

I have also wondered about George saying Lee and Cindy did not want him investigating....anyone else remember this? IIRC it is in one of his interviews.

And why did George go and talk to LE and ask them not to let Cindy and Lee know he was there?

[Anakerie]

This link is from Dec. 13 2008....Just a few days after Caylee was found..

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8067350&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Things mostly quiet at Anthony home

It was a relatively quiet day outside the Anthony home on Saturday, that was until the uncle of missing Caylee and brother of Casey stormed out the front door.

Surprising the media and onlookers who watched, Lee Anthony walked over to a makeshift memorial in front of the house, grabbing up the teddy bears and pictures that were left there in memory of his three year old niece.

Shortly thereafter, Jose Baez drove up to the house in this silver Cadillac along with with members of his legal team.

"Uh, we're just doing our work, really," explained Baez.

Earlier today, passersby continued a slow and fading procession through along Hopespring Drive.
Thank you, Brattnt... :thumbup:

[WillowInFlight]

That has puzzled me from the time I found that to be true as we know it. WOW, why send George onto WORK when something so questionable is going on and you don't even know where the occupants of the car are?

Lord, I can't get over that myself. :w00t:

I don't get it either, the car smells like death, he's hoping it's not his granddaughter yet he goes to work on Cindy's orders.

[CANDYKISSES]

She DID pay the bills. Wonder who is doing that now?

Tell that to Citi if you will. :blink:

JMO

[breezie]

Exactly. But most do not choose to believe that testimony, I guess because it "fits" better with their speculation that there was a HUGE fight and Casey stormed out of the house with Caylee the night before. Even though there is NO testimony to that. Just heresay.

Go figure.

no, it fits better with what George said initially vs. his cleaned up...now I remember it perfectly story. keep up.

[Stella Rose]

And why did George go and talk to LE and ask them not to let Cindy and Lee know he was there?

I think because he loved Caylee and wnated to tell the truth at the time. That's why I still have some sympathy for George. If you heard his interview it seemed like he was trying to tell the truth without directly implicating Casey.

[trt]

Baez and Lee weren't the sources. There were reporters there at the time.

Then again, I'm going to have to wait to see a video or link with this information in it because as we know, reporters don't always get it right and something like this would have been a major thing, IMO.

[breezie]

And this is one from the 22nd....2 days after police served a search warrant on the Anthony home. What a difference a few days make. Saturday was Dec 20th.


The Orange County Sheriff's officially cleared the wooded area Saturday. At the same time, four vans carrying crime scene investigators showed up at the Anthony's home, blocking the street, as the investigators strung yellow tape to keep back the dozens of onlookers who have come to express their condolences to the family.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,470650,00.html

onlookers does not equal the *vile and disgusting* that we were led to believe.

[CANDYKISSES]

And why did George go and talk to LE and ask them not to let Cindy and Lee know he was there?

Cuz he knew what he was smelling and that might be why Cindy and Lee wanted George off the case...jmooc. :blink:

[nc1948]

Not on foot anyways. They could have stopped her from driving away in the car registered to George and Cindy Anthony.


Well they did report it stolen. Why, when she had been missing 30 days did they not report it earlier.

[Brattnt]

And this is one from the 22nd....2 days after police served a search warrant on the Anthony home. What a difference a few days make. Saturday was Dec 20th.


The Orange County Sheriff's officially cleared the wooded area Saturday. At the same time, four vans carrying crime scene investigators showed up at the Anthony's home, blocking the street, as the investigators strung yellow tape to keep back the dozens of onlookers who have come to express their condolences to the family.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,470650,00.html

No where in that article did it say anything about protestors screaming baby killer....FYI...

[trt]

When I heard something and I have half a dozen people saying it didn't happen then they are calling me a liar. I have posted links to others hearing the same thing. I didn't expect an apology but I don't need spin on top of it. Links aren't available for every little thing in life.


Snipped...I don't think anyone would have to apologize (or subsequently spin anything) for not believing something without a link to back it up. You say you heard it...others have said they heard it. Doesn't mean it happened. Usually when something is heard and then not able to be verified at a later date, its because that *something* didn't hold much truth to begin with. JMO

[nc1948]

I guess that's the problem I have with it all, because I don't think they lied to LE, I think they lied to Greta Van Susssss...(sp) and that's not a crime. Sorry, I just don't see it. Giving the wrong brush, fine, throw the book at her and see what sticks, but other than that...I think George set the record straight on all of Casey's activity to LE. JMO


Their lawyer said that had made contradicting statements and if they were given immunity they would then and only then give honest statements.

[dgfred]

They can place her on the street that Caylee's body was found. BF picked her up on that very street.... seems her car ran out of gas around there. This was around the 18th of June.

So is it thought that maybe she dumped the body then, or is it likely that the body was still in the trunk at the time of the gas can business?

[CANDYKISSES]

onlookers does not equal the *vile and disgusting* that we were led to believe.

Come on, if the investigators were on the web....

Do you think every time LE went out there, that someone wasn't calling their friends who live close by, or that the neighbors weren't doing the same?

IT IS SCANDALOUS GOSSIP when you have cops stepping down, and the neighborhood has been filmed for months, so I can see that when she was found some were coming out for various reasons. But what I don't see is "BABY KILLER" IMO. :sleep:

[Regina.Lampert]

Kronk was arrested for kidnapping and I do believe the rape part was a misspeak. I can't stand Geraldo but it happens to everyone. Look at all of the fun Letterman had with George Bush's misspeaks the last few years.

The story didn't grow legs because the protesters were given a free pass by almost everyone, here and in the media. Whenever something happened with the protesters it was turned around on cindy and George. On top of that the body had just been found and the media had bigger fish to fry. They got better ratings from "Caylee found" stories then from protesters yelling baby killer at the Anthony home.

When I heard something and I have half a dozen people saying it didn't happen then they are calling me a liar. I have posted links to others hearing the same thing. I didn't expect an apology but I don't need spin on top of it. Links aren't available for every little thing in life.


For what it's worth I did see a report of that incident. I believe the crowd was voicing their displeasure at baez being at the anthony home and representing a "babykiller." I thought it was a Natisha Lance report, but you said you don't watch NG, so I'm not sure on which show I did see it.

[CANDYKISSES]

No where in that article did it say anything about protestors screaming baby killer....FYI...

Thank you Bratt, I think we will see many attempts to make things look worse for poor barf Casey who can't get a fair trial IYKWIM.....

Not posters, but people like Baez and the Anthony family IMO.

No matter what, I don't endorse making anyone uncomfortable in their own home, even if they are costing the taxpayers money daily with their lies IMO. :cursing:

[breezie]

Zoom zoom zoom. The point is at the time in question there were people outside the home and it wasn't as quiet as it was on the 13th. Later that night they were yelling baby killer.

so where's that report? I see no baby killer yelling reported. Regina just asked if anyone had heard about it.

[CANDYKISSES]

Snipped...I don't think anyone would have to apologize (or subsequently spin anything) for not believing something without a link to back it up. You say you heard it...others have said they heard it. Doesn't mean it happened. Usually when something is heard and then not able to be verified at a later date, its because that *something* didn't hold much truth to begin with. JMO

Great post trt. JMOOC. :thumbup:

If they could have run with it to garner some sympathy for the family, I honestly believe some of the media would have honed in on that if it was true.

[trt]

Not everything is on the internet. Not everything can be backed up by links. In this case you have people from different opinions who all heard the same thing. It happened. There were other things going on at the time that garnered higher ratingS. A childs body had just been found a few days earlier and the focus was on that.

I'm sorry, I don't believe this happened. Again, that is not saying that you didn't hear a report that it did, but I don't believe it. Sorry.

[Tracian]

Exactly. But most do not choose to believe that testimony, I guess because it "fits" better with their speculation that there was a HUGE fight and Casey stormed out of the house with Caylee the night before. Even though there is NO testimony to that. Just heresay.

Go figure.



Right now everything is heresay...Jesse claimed Lee told him this:

http://www.zimbio.com/Jesse+Grund/articles/7/Jesse+Grund+alleged+Casey+Anthony+Mom+Fought

From the link:

Grund told the Sheriff's Investigators about this incident and said that Lee Anthony, Casey's brother told him.

"It got into a very heated argument, which turned physical and Cindy started choking Casey," Grund said.

Guess we would have to find out if Jesse did tell this to LE, and if he did then it is part of the investigation.