Monday January 12 - Part 1

[commonguymd]

When and if they are arrested.

I predict nobody else will ever be arrested for their evil deeds. I am getting disillusioned by it all, as it appears they can do whatever with impunity.

[Mairi II]

What gig? They did not have to provide a tape to Geraldo at all, they could have to hit to beat it, thats not what happened, and thankfully they did thwart Hoovers attempts.

And let me ask you something.

You think the LE haven't seen the tape? Dont ya think if there was something just so scandalous on it someone would have been arrested? I dont want to hear they are building a case, this is not rocket science, if something is visually in front of you and there was a crime, especially in a case of this magnitude, someone would have been arrested by now, the cops are not just waiting for a dramatic moment, or a holiday to end, or the end of a funeral to press charges, the law does not work like that.

What gig? That there was a video media outlets might be interested in. Anthonys released it before Hoover could make $ off of it.

I don't see anything on the tape, in and of itself, that's illegal. Scandalous doesn't equate to illegal. But possible evidence of involvement on the A's part in a cover-up? Perhaps. We'll see, huh?

[marshmallow]

Hoe did anyone aid her when plant life was growing up from the skeleton and it had been there for 6months? You really think Casey has it in her to come clean with anyone?

she gave them the clues, they had a poor sense of direction?
but if they knew Caylee was dead and kept forcing LE and the FBI to chase down leads for a live Caylee, that to me says something's not right. I think we'll get our missing puzzle pieces one by one and like Baez said, we'll all be saying "aha" soon.

[dixielover]

There is a difference in knowing, i.e., being in dread of, suspecting, or fearing.... and knowing something. Maybe they feared that Caylee was dead, and dreaded the truth, but still did not know.
It's very easy to say what we would do when it comes to our kids, but when you are faced with it, your actions might surprise you. All kinds of factors weigh in when a crisis like that comes up.
I believe that I would never cover up for one of my kids who committed a crime. But... if I thought that kid did not commit that crime, then I would be supporting them and believing what they told me. It is my belief that Cindy just had such hopes that Caylee was alive and that Casey's story of kidnapping was true, that she could not face the reality, even when faced with the evidence. Denial is the first step in the grieving process.
If this were your granddaughter and you loved her more than life itself, and if presented with two very different scenarios... one in which she was kidnapped by a nanny and is possibly alive, and the other in which your own child killed her deliberately... which one would you WANT to believe? Would you so readily accept the one where your daughter is a cold-blooded killer? Of course not!! You would hang on to every shred of hope that your granddaughter would be found alive. Sadly, that did not happen.
Cindy and George will have to have time to accept this tragic fact. Right now, they are probably still in a state of shock, disbelief, anger, frustration and denial. It will hit them soon enough. But it is far more difficult to turn against your own child than some people realize.

I think they knew from the time the car rolled in- I have smelled decomp and it is a smell that you know even though you don't actually know it (if that makes any sense). I believe they have already went through their stages of grief and ready to defend their child. I wouldn't want to accept that my daughter would do anything like this but they can't be so stupid to know that this story wasn't true. It would not surprise me if they are continuing to try to cover up what happen and think they are actually smarter than the police. Like they said- CA and KC are alilke. imo

[nc1948]

I imagine they are waiting to get the highest paying news show to film the funeral.. They probably want to compare what shows will be the top paying shows for their precious little Caylee's funeral. I am just sick, really, over this. How can anyone do such a thing? There is no reason now for that baby to lay there and not be buried. I wish we had an answer to this because to me this should be the FIRST line of business for them and it really looks like it is not even an issue. Shame on them or Jose IF he is the one who is holding the funeral up. Some say maybe Casey gave him all rights for burial of Caylee well, what is his response then as to why she is STILL laying there in that funeral home? Someone has the rights to her body or little bones and they have not respected that child once again. So very sad and shameful.

If Baez does actually have control (Dang, I don't know) he may be holding it so that when the Marvelous wonderful Baez gets her off on all charges then Casey can plan and attend the funeral. Yup, like thats gonna happen.

[Dunlurken]

They were aiding her by maintaining C's story of Z-F-G and not sharing with LE the fact they knew Caylee was dead and where she was. They were also accepting donations to search for a LIVE Caylee when they knew she was dead. I would think that would be fraud.

The above is JMO, of course.

I'm beginning to believe those that speculated that the donations were for Casey's defense fund. Oh what a tangled web we weave.....this could easily go back to Baez. JMO.

[trt]

About this tape.
Why was the investigator out there?
Because Kiomarie said thats where they used to hang out, and if Casey was going to stash anything, it was probably there. I think the Anthonys are the only ones on earth who kept hope she was alive, does anyone think D. Casey was looking for a live two year old in the woods?
So why wouldn't the Investigator go out there and tape, so did the psychic, LE had been out there, if there was any malice, why not get the body, and dispose of it far away, or in a dump, a body does not help out the defense at all, why not smash an incriminating tape to smithereans?

I just am never going to understand why some want to make Casey Anthony a little less accountable for this murder.

I don't think anyone has stated anything about Casey not being responsible for Caylee's murder. However, as was pointed out, the PI was ON THE PHONE with someone while he was looking through the woods and per a reporter, he said "It would be right here" or something to that effect. He was looking for something specific, not just poking around because it was *close to home*.

If the Anthonys were convinced(as they constantly said) that Caylee was alive to the point of trashing Tim and others that were looking for Caylee dead or alive, then they would not have had their PI looking for a dead Caylee under ANY circumstances, correct? This blows the whole *Anthonys were/are in denial* assertions, IMO.

The answer to why the body wasn't moved, disposed of further, etc. is probably in the statement that the reporter heard Mr. Casey say on the tape as he was looking for the body.

JMO

[nc1948]

I wonder what kind of "business" I remember when he said he was conducting his own investigation, I was like whats up? Then like in his first jail vist he kept reminding her she's being taped.


sick sick sick IMO


Why in the world did Lee ask her "Is this like last time?"

[JHP]

she gave them the clues, they had a poor sense of direction?
but if they knew Caylee was dead and kept forcing LE and the FBI to chase down leads for a live Caylee, that to me says something's not right. I think we'll get our missing puzzle pieces one by one and like Baez said, we'll all be saying "aha" soon.

I always wondered why they went back home when Casey was released from jail. Instead of and undisclosed location. Maybe someone wanted to keep an eye on that area.

JMO

[JHP]

Why in the world did Lee ask her "Is this like last time?"

I would love to know what last time was.

[Lavenia]

I think they knew from the time the car rolled in- I have smelled decomp and it is a smell that you know even though you don't actually know it (if that makes any sense). I believe they have already went through their stages of grief and ready to defend their child. I wouldn't want to accept that my daughter would do anything like this but they can't be so stupid to know that this story wasn't true. It would not surprise me if they are continuing to try to cover up what happen and think they are actually smarter than the police. Like they said- CA and KC are alilke. imo

I think George knew but it was so made clear by Cindy that she was going to fight like a wildcat to surround herself by people who would ONLY feed into her denial, that he knew his gravy train would come to an abrupt halt if he went against the grain, IMO.

[Dunlurken]

I predict nobody else will ever be arrested for their evil deeds. I am getting disillusioned by it all, as it appears they can do whatever with impunity.

I think others will be arrested if that makes you feel better. Obstruction of justice, lying to LE, destroying evidence, all those things come to mind. JMO. Can I add fraud as well?

[marshmallow]

I predict nobody else will ever be arrested for their evil deeds. I am getting disillusioned by it all, as it appears they can do whatever with impunity.

I agree. I myself do not go by the thinking of "it's okay unless you get caught/charged".

Sometimes, as in this particular case, a person(s) are not being charged out of compassion (which they're milking for every penny and ounce of pity they can get)

but to me, that doesn't make them blameless for what they've done, it doesn't make them squeaky clean or innocent, it only makes them lucky.

[Lavenia]

I don't think anyone has stated anything about Casey not being responsible for Caylee's murder. However, as was pointed out, the PI was ON THE PHONE with someone while he was looking through the woods and per a reporter, he said "It would be right here" or something to that effect. He was looking for something specific, not just poking around because it was *close to home*.

If the Anthonys were convinced(as they constantly said) that Caylee was alive to the point of trashing Tim and others that were looking for Caylee dead or alive, then they would not have had their PI looking for a dead Caylee under ANY circumstances, correct? This blows the whole *Anthonys were/are in denial* assertions, IMO.

The answer to why the body wasn't moved, disposed of further, etc. is probably in the statement that the reporter heard Mr. Casey say on the tape as he was looking for the body.

JMO

But couldn't that info (about where something was) have come from Baez or Lee Anthony?

[cassidy]

What gig? They did not have to provide a tape to Geraldo at all, they could have to hit to beat it, thats not what happened, and thankfully they did thwart Hoovers attempts.

And let me ask you something.

You think the LE haven't seen the tape? Dont ya think if there was something just so scandalous on it someone would have been arrested? I dont want to hear they are building a case, this is not rocket science, if something is visually in front of you and there was a crime, especially in a case of this magnitude, someone would have been arrested by now, the cops are not just waiting for a dramatic moment, or a holiday to end, or the end of a funeral to press charges, the law does not work like that.

The wheels of justice turn slowly. We haven't seen the end of this nightmare yet.
IMO

[*MoonRider*]

I think he has some other dark secrets in his closet that he wants to keep to himself. My opinion. He fell out of sight for almost 3 months. George said he was away on business. We know he was around the country on the donations given in, supposedly following up tips. He is reprehensible as well. He knew. Casey told hin that "In my gut she is close to Hope"......talking in codes etc.

The code talk was from the jailhouse conversations. Let's not forget that the Anthony clan had a lot of one on one time with the OC. Casey was released from 8/21 to 8/29 and from 9/5 until 10/14. No code talk would have been necessary during her time out of the joint. IMO they know so much more than they are telling.

[dixielover]

Of course he is innocent and a good samaritan unlike the anthony family. I cant understand how some people are blaming him for the murder of caylee all because he found the body and he had placed tips 3 times in the past. The anthonys are more guilty then anyone else.


I don't think anyone is blaming MR- but I do think there is more to the story regarding how he knew where to look. jmo

[Dunlurken]

The wheels of justice turn slowly. We haven't seen the end of this nightmare yet.
IMO

Others will be arrested. JMO.

[nc1948]

I predict nobody else will ever be arrested for their evil deeds. I am getting disillusioned by it all, as it appears they can do whatever with impunity.

I wish I could let this case go. But I keep coming back.

The Anthonys have a sense of entitlement because they actually get away with so much more than anyone I know.

Some of these are minor, I know, But they bug me.

Cindy standing up in open court and speaking out. Most judges would have had her removed from court room. So since she was not removed or reprimanded, she can do it again during the trial.

Cindy laughing about she should have given LE the dogs hair brush. Your grandaughter is missing and you are joking about misleading LE

Lee and Casey high fiving. Lots and lots of concern over missing daughter and niece.

George driving around a billboard with a non working phone number. Yes, that will definitely help find your missing grandaughter.

Pleading for money but never begging the kidnappers to return your grandaughter.

Being angry because everyone is not looking for a live Caylee, but you search your back yard. Geez folks, she has been missing 30 days, do you think she is playing hide and seek in the back yard.

I can think of so many things the Anthonys have done that indicate to me that they knew Caylee was dead. I have seen nothing that indicates they ever thought she was alive. Main two are never pleading for her return and searching back yard.

[trt]

she had fake emails. also the collection dept from AT&T was listed as "universal" in her phone. I guess they called her alot so when they called...it would show up as universal was calling.

Thanks...I remember the emails(didn't read about the *Universal* link, but that makes sense). But I know that Lee(either himself or through a reporter - Mark Furhman?) stated that a lot of the addresses and numbers in Casey's address book that were assigned to other people (i.e. *friends and coworkers*) were actually numbers and info of neighbors. JMO

[SBT123]

Yes, I remember that.

The whole thing is just weird. There is a ZFG in Orlando. She filled out a guest card at Sawgrass. Then the F n G peeps who live where the remains were found.

Granted, F n G are popular lastnames, but? How many hinky quirks can one name have in a case?

I also remember early on it was mentioned that there was a F OR G, can't recall which, that lived around there. But they didn't hang with Casey. This must be the same one.

I don't see Casey being slick enough to come up with some outrageous puzzle of sorts. All I can say is that things continue to make one go HMMM, in this case.


Zenaida Gonzalez filled out a guest card at SAWGRASS , not Zenaida Fernandez' Gonzalez .

Also the names of the owners of the houses in the neighborhood were nor F-G , they are --------a lady with a FIRST NAME Zenaida and another home with the owner having a LASET NAME of Gonazalez.


Just correcting this info ....but a LOT of people in that neighbor are Hispanic and so it goes without saying their last manes will coincide with their heritage.

[nc1948]

Go ahead and try to argue that in court, especially since denial is a huge part of grief after losing a loved one in ANY manner, kidnapping, murder, etc.

Denial is part of grief, but lying is not.

[spiritwolf46]

Good morning all.

Trying to catch up. In a small nutshell, can you let me know what is going on?

TIA!

[Dunlurken]

I also remember Lee saying he had talked to the two people who worked at Universal also. I was thinking Juliette Lewis, and the other guy who supposedly referred Zanny the Nanny to Casey.

Question: Did Lee know he was being recorded? JMO.

[Neffy]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8232844&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1


Conway says, a man who worked for Dominick Casey, James Hoover, took that video without their permission and tried selling it to TV stations.
Fox news channel's Geraldo, obtained the video, but did not pay for it.
Fox was given permission by the Anthony family to air the video free of charge


Oh yes, that sounds like the actions of people with something to hide.:rolleyes:


Sure does. Especially when after they've been exposed.

[trich]

Go ahead and try to argue that in court, especially since denial is a huge part of grief after losing a loved one in ANY manner, kidnapping, murder, etc.

At this point I don't think it matters what Cindy and George thought or think.
Outside of allienating everyone that tried to help them and showing the world what liars they are ......IMO it has nothing to do with the prosecutions case against Casey.
I do not think they need anything from the Anthonys to help prove her guilt.....I think she has done that all by herself .
Now if the LE really do believe that they tried to obstruct justice i think they ought to have to explain themselves in a court of law but I do not see it happening.
Don't believe they will waste their time when they have the actual murderer in custody with plenty of evidence to see that she spends the rest of her life locked up.
I do hope they are asked to testify and are put on the spot ....but I don't think that will happen either.

[SavannahStar]

Cindy laughing about she should have given LE the dogs hair brush. Your grandaughter is missing and you are joking about misleading LE.

Snipping your post as I only wanted to address this part quickly.

To my knowledge (someone correct me if I'm wrong), this tidbit came ONLY FROM LEONARD PADILLA. A crack he made on NG one night.

It seems to me there are more than just a few little pieces of information floating around that have rather dubious beginnings.

We do NOT know if this is fact, that she joked around about the dog hair brush. (BTW, IIRC, it was the dog's toothbrush, I think.) IMO.

[ishkabibble]

:seeya: Good morning kitty, I think they are waiting for the best "deal" on the funeral.

JMO

selling the rights to some media group like they with Anna Nicole. Big dollars in that!

[dixielover]

Sure does. Especially when after they've been exposed.

You are right- we would probably never heard about the tape until trial and the AHA moment from Baez-jmo

[desmom]

Others will be arrested. JMO.

I agree Dunlurken.

I find it interesting that after the remains were discovered but before they were identified, everyone got a lawyer and we hear talk of immunity.

I get the feeling this November 15-16 video is not the only thing out there. Did it surface because of the immunity talks? What else is out there? Are the people associated with the Anthonys bailing and doing a little CYA? Is LE watching from the sidelines to see who jumps ship next?

jmo

[Dunlurken]

Good morning all.

Trying to catch up. In a small nutshell, can you let me know what is going on?

TIA!

Morning! Too much to tell. We are still discussing and debating about whether the Anthony's knew where Caylee was, which is why they sent Hoover to the location at "hope". It's a long story.

Also discussing whether any of the Anthony's knew where Caylee was "left", and should be charged as well. JMO.

[Roux]

I wonder if by "ok" they mean ok because no one's found her yet..

I wondered if there was "code speak" when Lee asked her the time she last spoke to Caylee. Casey responded 12 noon. Think there is anything more to that time she was trying to indicate to Lee?

[Stella Rose]

Why in the world did Lee ask her "Is this like last time?"

I really think that come trial there will be a lot of these puzzle pieces coming together. Just like the "code talk" with Lee is becoming a lot clearer now. She's close to HOPE. I still haven't heard that (at work) but can't wait to listen tonight. I do think we will have a lot of theose "DUH! Why didn't we catch that" moments coming up. At least I hope so.

[trt]

Well,the LE agrees with ME, and thats all I care about. Conspiracy theories dont hold water.

When did LE state that the Anthonys have nothing to hide?

[spiritwolf46]

Morning! Too much to tell. We are still discussing and debating about whether the Anthony's knew where Caylee was, which is why they sent Hoover to the location at "hope". It's a long story.

Also discussing whether any of the Anthony's knew where Caylee was "left", and should be charged as well. JMO.

Thank Dunnie! Much appreciated! ;)

[Neffy]

Snipping your post as I only wanted to address this part quickly.

To my knowledge (someone correct me if I'm wrong), this tidbit came ONLY FROM LEONARD PADILLA. A crack he made on NG one night.

It seems to me there are more than just a few little pieces of information floating around that have rather dubious beginnings.

We do NOT know if this is fact, that she joked around about the dog hair brush. (BTW, IIRC, it was the dog's toothbrush, I think.) IMO.

Incorrect this information originally came from their 1st spokesman whose name I can't recall.

[Stella Rose]

Others will be arrested. JMO.

And I have a strong feeling one may happen very soon. I do not have any inside info, but boy it does feel like something big is brewing. Anyone else sense this?

[Dunlurken]

I agree Dunlurken.

I find it interesting that after the remains were discovered but before they were identified, everyone got a lawyer and we hear talk of immunity.

I get the feeling this November 15-16 video is not the only thing out there. Did it surface because of the immunity talks? What else is out there? Are the people associated with the Anthonys bailing and doing a little CYA? Is LE watching from the sidelines to see who jumps ship next?

jmo
I agree with you totally. I believe/hope that LE is watching the Anthony's (all of them) to make sure they don't abandon ship and go into hiding. JMO.

I remember George telling Casey he could have all of them put into protective custody or something to that effect. I thought it meant one thing at the moment, but now I wonder. JMO.

Why would they need to be put in protective custody? What did they know about Casey's lifestyle that would make him say that? JMO.

[dixielover]

This is not the usual missing child/murder case. The anthonys have seen to that. They are heartless/cold people. :cursing:

If they knew about the body or death-I wonder what the conversations were like regarding getting tips of sighting and pictures of children. I just wonder if any of these were staged. I think the only one that they checked out was the one in CA- conveniently on the day Caylee was found. jmo

[kitty1182]

Incorrect this information originally came from their 1st spokesman whose name I can't recall.



Was it Garrison?

[destiny1]

Well,the LE agrees with ME, and thats all I care about. Conspiracy theories dont hold water.


It may be a theory but it has merit.

Probability as well as common sense can tell us that.

Too many coincidences.

[JHP]

selling the rights to some media group like they with Anna Nicole. Big dollars in that!

Yep, probably have offshore accounts all ready. IMO

Who is looking out for Caylee? I wish some sort of guardian could be assigned to her.

[Lavenia]

Snipping your post as I only wanted to address this part quickly.

To my knowledge (someone correct me if I'm wrong), this tidbit came ONLY FROM LEONARD PADILLA. A crack he made on NG one night.

It seems to me there are more than just a few little pieces of information floating around that have rather dubious beginnings.

We do NOT know if this is fact, that she joked around about the dog hair brush. (BTW, IIRC, it was the dog's toothbrush, I think.) IMO.

No the hairbrush is verified. Cindy admitted to doing it, and said she wasn't going to run all over the house to get what they (LE) wanted, or something to that effect. Argh, I can't for the life of me remember who she said it to, but it's documented in emails. The dog's toothbrush was LP's add-in. When the hairbrush incident came out, he (LP) said that he heard that Cindy had said something about also switching Caylee's toothbrush with the dog's toothbrush. (I haven't been to sleep all night, did I get this right, guys?)

[SBT123]

Snipping your post as I only wanted to address this part quickly.

To my knowledge (someone correct me if I'm wrong), this tidbit came ONLY FROM LEONARD PADILLA. A crack he made on NG one night.

It seems to me there are more than just a few little pieces of information floating around that have rather dubious beginnings.

We do NOT know if this is fact, that she joked around about the dog hair brush. (BTW, IIRC, it was the dog's toothbrush, I think.) IMO.


Correct and it was a toothbrush as well ,Lenny saidit was Tracy who told him that , Tracy suddenly had a flash back of this after the fact , Tracy also had a sudden flash back the time the BEADS were in question , yet a SPY ( Tracy) planted in the house for the sole purpose of watching and spying never reveals these things until AFTER it becomes an issue ? That does not ring true to me . You can't have credibility over SPY TIPS AFTER information comes out and say tidbits about the dog toothbrush , and BEADS just because you can drum up something AFTER the FACT .


I do not trust a lot of characters in the case.

[spiritwolf46]

And I have a strong feeling one may happen very soon. I do not have any inside info, but boy it does feel like something big is brewing. Anyone else sense this?

Reading the few posts that I have, IF the ANthony's knew where that poor little body was, they had BETTER be arrested! It will totally pizz me off if they get away with something like that! That is completely horrifying to think that grandparents could leave their little granddaughter rotting in woods to save their lying, coniving, horrific daughter!

These people are below the lowest. He77 is waiting for them.

[Lavenia]

Was it Garrison?

That's who I thought it was but wasn't sure.

[Dunlurken]

Was it Garrison?

He quickly bailed, didn't he. Maybe some don't want to wind up in jail. JMO.

[shelbar53]

Wow, is this true? For how long? I did not know this... unf'inbelieavable.
The gall!

yes its true, the number was never changed. so for months he drove around and parked the billboard with a non working number.

[Neffy]

Was it Garrison?

That's it! It's his email he forwarded to FBI/LE regarding this very matter. The Hairbrush.

[*MoonRider*]

And I have a strong feeling one may happen very soon. I do not have any inside info, but boy it does feel like something big is brewing. Anyone else sense this?

I agree. I can't wait for the 8/14 jailhouse interview. The noose was tightening around that time.

8/3 George visits Casey
8/6 8 Bags removed from Anthony house
8/8 DNA from Casey
8/8 Casey refuses visit from Lee
8/9 Caylee’s birthday
8/10 Casey cancels visit with George & Cindy
8/11 Meter reader/physic
8/11 Appeals court denies motion to lower bond
8/12 Lee cancels visit with Casey
8/13 Cindy interview http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7204062&version=1&locale=EN-US

8/14 Jailhouse visit (rumored that Casey as upset with her family)

Maybe it will be released today. :biggrin:

[SavannahStar]

Incorrect this information originally came from their 1st spokesman whose name I can't recall.


Garrison said that? Might you know where I can find that? I know I saw a link where it was said by Padilla on NG.

[daHawg]

Incorrect this information originally came from their 1st spokesman whose name I can't recall.

No LP said it on NG when they were talking about Garrison and Cindy and the email about the hairbrush.

from the link.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0811/25/ng.01.html

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: Let me add fuel to the fire. Today, when I`m sitting there talking to Tracy about this development, she says, You know, that brings to mind something else. One day, Cindy walked in there and said, You know, when the FBI asked me for her toothbrush, I should have given them the brush that I use to brush the dog`s teeth. And Tracy says that George just about went into heart arrest, you know, like, Oh, my God, don`t be saying things like that. Now, I suggested that Tracy call the FBI first thing in the morning as a result of this development jogging her mind

[Stella Rose]

I personally believe some of them could have been staged. Cindy told FBI she didn't give the truth to the 911 operator. She tells me right there she's not fearful of giving false information to legal authorities. LE. Telling, yes. Makes it difficult to believe anything else she might say/do and casts suspicion on herself for her future acts.

Didn't she also balk when asked to sign her sworn statement to LE. She didn't know that she had to swear it was true or some such nonsense. I'm a bit fuzzy here, sorry.

[desmom]

No the hairbrush is verified. Cindy admitted to doing it, and said she wasn't going to run all over the house to get what they (LE) wanted, or something to that effect. Argh, I can't for the life of me remember who she said it to, but it's documented in emails. The dog's toothbrush was LP's add-in. When the hairbrush incident came out, he (LP) said that he heard that Cindy had said something about also switching Caylee's toothbrush with the dog's toothbrush. (I haven't been to sleep all night, did I get this right, guys?)

FBI Investigating Email That Could Land Cindy In Jail
http://www.wftv.com/news/18146218/detail.html#-

Email: http://www.wftv.com/news/18145599/detail.html

[NYGalPal]

Denial is part of grief, but lying is not.

How right you are. Like I said the other day. "it is a scary to know some don't believe lying and covering up for their daughter who murdered her child think this ok". It is a crime. There are no excuses, period. No pass for the As. :thumbdown:

[dixielover]

What was in those emails that was accidentally sent to that reporter from CA? Did we ever see those. (The ones that CA said her computer was hacked) imo

[Stella Rose]

I agree. I can't wait for the 8/14 jailhouse interview. The noose was tightening around that time.

>>>SNIP<<<
8/14 Jailhouse visit (rumored that Casey as upset with her family)

Maybe it will be released today. :biggrin:

From your keyboard to LE's ears MoonRider!

[trt]

Go ahead and try to argue that in court, especially since denial is a huge part of grief after losing a loved one in ANY manner, kidnapping, murder, etc.

I'm not trying to argue in court, just giving opinions on a message board. LE is making the case for court and I think they have Casey's AND the Anthonys numbers which is why they've been so quiet (other than to request IMMUNITY through their lawyer) since the recovery of Caylee's remains.

I'm aware of the process of grief and aware that denial is a part of it. I also know that true denial isn't something you turn on and off as the As have done repeatedly.

JMO

[openminded]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8232844&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Latest news from Conway, Admits the video belongs to the A's.

Thanks for the link. Just when you think this case couldn't get any more strange . . . . .

[Lavenia]

FBI Investigating Email That Could Land Cindy In Jail
http://www.wftv.com/news/18146218/detail.html#-

Email: http://www.wftv.com/news/18145599/detail.html

Danke schön!

[Dunlurken]

No LP said it on NG when they were talking about Garrison and Cindy and the email about the hairbrush.

from the link.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0811/25/ng.01.html

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: Let me add fuel to the fire. Today, when I`m sitting there talking to Tracy about this development, she says, You know, that brings to mind something else. One day, Cindy walked in there and said, You know, when the FBI asked me for her toothbrush, I should have given them the brush that I use to brush the dog`s teeth. And Tracy says that George just about went into heart arrest, you know, like, Oh, my God, don`t be saying things like that. Now, I suggested that Tracy call the FBI first thing in the morning as a result of this development jogging her mind


Correctamundo! Thanks for the link. Lenny always seems to be in the background. Stirring things up.

However, his statement brought forward the e-mail between Garrison and Cindy. JMO.

[trt]

But couldn't that info (about where something was) have come from Baez or Lee Anthony?

It certainly could have...but if the tape BELONGS to the As, that means that they've known about it since at least the day it happened(I assume Dominic and Hoover charged for those hours they were out there and I doubt the As would have been paying for something they didn't authorize or know anything about). JMO

[NYGalPal]

Well,the LE agrees with ME, and thats all I care about. Conspiracy theories dont hold water.

Did they LE personally tell you they agree with you? Oh not that "I'm in the know game" again when you are not? Your theories don't hold water either. Funny, it doesn't stop you from posting them whilest you ignore cold hard facts. :rolleyes:

[*MoonRider*]

FBI Investigating Email That Could Land Cindy In Jail
http://www.wftv.com/news/18146218/detail.html#-

Email: http://www.wftv.com/news/18145599/detail.html

Cindy makes me sick. She controls who can speak to the murderess. From the email: "I also trusted you so much that I let you speak to Casey."

[daHawg]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8232844&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Latest news from Conway, Admits the video belongs to the A's.Yeah did you notice though how he tries to distance himself and the A's from it by saying neither the A's nor himself has seen it. Well he didn't see it until Sunday night but the A's still hasn't seen it according to Conway. I call BS big time on that one. :rolleyes:

ETA: Holly says she has seen the still pics that D.Casey took while there and they show a whole lot more than the video. I want to see those!!!

[breezie]

Conway now claims he owns the tape.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18460620/detail.html
he wasn't around during that time that we know of. How does he own it? Via Cindy? that seems incriminating.

[dixielover]

I don't know if the As will be arrested but I hope the LE lets them squirm before given them immunity-which I hope they do not get. They are already on tape saying it smelled like a death body. imo

[destiny1]

Yep, probably have offshore accounts all ready. IMO

Who is looking out for Caylee? I wish some sort of guardian could be assigned to her.

They need a special master to handle all of the evidence in the crimminal case, and they need a trustee to handle any and all money that comes their way outside of regular employment and benefits related to not being employed.

With all of this attorney switching and employee switching, we now have a maze and a host of integrity problems I would say.

The only problems would be finding a trustee and a special master that is not already caught up in this mess.

[happygert]

I agree. I can't wait for the 8/14 jailhouse interview. The noose was tightening around that time.

8/3 George visits Casey
8/6 8 Bags removed from Anthony house
8/8 DNA from Casey
8/8 Casey refuses visit from Lee
8/9 Caylee’s birthday
8/10 Casey cancels visit with George & Cindy
8/11 Meter reader/physic
8/11 Appeals court denies motion to lower bond
8/12 Lee cancels visit with Casey
8/13 Cindy interview http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7204062&version=1&locale=EN-US

8/14 Jailhouse visit (rumored that Casey as upset with her family)

Maybe it will be released today. :biggrin:

Wonder why they've waited so long to release this tape? Many probably would have forgot this tape ever existed until trial.. Just wondering if there's not more incriminating evidence? When did GA go in front of GJ?

[debkay]

HEY great collection here - just want to say that Casey could also be saying "close to home" which is what I've thought she said the first 3 times I listened but now that YOU pointed out the word HOPE - as in "she's close to HOPE" - it does sound more like HOPE as in HOPESPRINGS right?

And as for the names of the two home owners on either side of where the body was found - this girl missed her calling - she could have been writing mystery novels.

FREAKING TWISTED!
SOOOOOOO twisted!

Then what about the ZG at the Sawgrass apartments? How in the heck does this all fit????
I am sure the whole A clan knew where Caylee was sometime before she was found.MOO
.:cursing:
MOO

[Lavenia]

No its a little off .


Read my post before this .


The hairbrush incident , Cindys exp is she gave the forst hairbrush she thought of , she says she knew CASey and Caylee used the same hairbrush at times and just because she did not go and search for a specific hairbrush she used on Caylee should make no difference because they were looking for Caylees hair and they would get Caylees hair from the hairbrush both of the girls had used.


She just didn't at the time go hunt the other down ,when she had a shared hairbrush right there to hand over.

With all due respect, I think we're both splitting hairs (no pun intended) here by putting our own interpretation on WHY she did what she did. The fact remains, she did NOT get Caylee's hairbrush for whatever reason we want to speculate on and IMO she was misrepresenting the facts to LE.

[daHawg]

he wasn't around during that time that we know of. How does he own it? Via Cindy? that seems incriminating.

This is Conway's quote....

"By virtue of my representation, it is my videotape, not Mr. Hoover's, and our position is that he has taken this tape from us and tried to shop it and tried to profit from a tragedy that he has no right to be involved in," Brad Conway said.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18460620/detail.html

[dixielover]

Wonder why they've waited so long to release this tape? Many probably would have forgot this tape ever existed until trial.. Just wondering if there's not more incriminating evidence? When did GA go in front of GJ?

Why did I think there was a freeze on those tapes - some kind of motion from Baez regarding showing them to public. Dreaming again. imo

[happygert]

That's it! It's his email he forwarded to FBI/LE regarding this very matter. The Hairbrush.

You know the A's have pizzed off so many people who was in there camp. Im guess they have told a lot of things, That client privilege does NOT cover with them

[*MoonRider*]

Wonder why they've waited so long to release this tape? Many probably would have forgot this tape ever existed until trial.. Just wondering if there's not more incriminating evidence? When did GA go in front of GJ?

Oct. 14th ....

[SavannahStar]

You are wrong. Although Cindy didn't "joke around" re the hair brush issue, she does admit in an e-mail that she did not retrieve the hair brush used just for Caylee as requested by LE.

BTW, this information did not originate from Leonard Padilla.

I was talking about the DOGGIE TOOTHBRUSH. Period.

[Loves2Read]

No its a little off .


Read my post before this .


The hairbrush incident , Cindys exp is she gave the forst hairbrush she thought of , she says she knew CASey and Caylee used the same hairbrush at times and just because she did not go and search for a specific hairbrush she used on Caylee should make no difference because they were looking for Caylees hair and they would get Caylees hair from the hairbrush both of the girls had used.


She just didn't at the time go hunt the other down ,when she had a shared hairbrush right there to hand over.

Yours is a little off too. She didn't have any brush right there on hand. She went and got Casey's brush that "they shared". She thought of the brush in her bathroom that was Caylee's real hair brush.... she just didn't bother to go get it.

[Stella Rose]

You are wrong. Although Cindy didn't "joke around" re the hair brush issue, she does admit in an e-mail that she did not retrieve the hair brush used just for Caylee as requested by LE.

BTW, this information did not originate from Leonard Padilla.

So, in her own words, Cindy admits that she purposely decieved LE while they were trying desperately to find her precious grandbaby.
How can the Anthony apologists spin this? I was on the fence about them - then off again (lather, rinse, repeat), but this about knocks me off for good.

Still unsure about George though. I almost feel that he is just a pawn between Cindy and Casey...

[dgfred]

Any deception by the Anthonys is disgusting just to think about... why?

[trt]

I guess I make the conclusion since they have not been arrested. I am willing to go out on a limb and say LE knows more about the dynamics of this case then any of us here. So, when and if they arrest the Anthonys, I will be on LE's side, as they have to have legit info to pursue such an arrest, and they, at this time have not.

Yes, to date, the As have not been arrested. I recall a time when Casey was sitting free of murder charges even though most could see that she was as guilty as sin from all the information we had (and with the knowledge that LE has/had much more). I think we are seeing the same thing unfold with obstruction charges for the As. I think they know that too, hence the request for IMMUNITY. You don't ask for immunity if you have nothing to hide. JMO

[trt]

I noticed the LE transcript of that conversation even says "home", but listening to the audio, you can definitely hear the letter p as in Hope.

I still here an M, but almost like "hompe..." But I chalk that up to how Casey talks, she seems to chop off some of her words when she speaks.

JMO

[dgfred]

Asking for immunity is usually not a big deal, happens all the time... just
in this case they have definately found the need for it by their deceptions.

[Dunlurken]

Oops... here's the link:

http://www.wftv.com/news/18145599/detail.htmlYep, it was between Garrison and Cindy.

And he bailed out of the case quickly.

Sorry if I'm behind in my reading. JMO.

[Loves2Read]

Cold hard facts are the A's Attorney states the A's are not being arrested.


He states it is his own doing that they ask for immunity he says he would not defend anyone, anyone without this in a case such as this.

Her contention that LE agrees with her could very well be based on the fact their Attorney states they are not going to be arrested, leading her to believe this.


These are the FACTS today as we know them ,they could change ,but right now it stands as these are the FACTS.

Oh please! You get your FACTS from a defense attorney? They are not unbiased and will say anything they can to have their clients appear to better to the public and all prospective jurors.

The COLD HARD FACTS come from the employee's of the state that are paid to deal with this case.

[trt]

There is a video of Cindy explaining this to the media . Thats where I got that info. She gave details of how this came to be .

Cindy has a record of lying to the media and even to LE. I don't know that her explanation of events can be trusted. JMO

[happygert]

Reading the few posts that I have, IF the ANthony's knew where that poor little body was, they had BETTER be arrested! It will totally pizz me off if they get away with something like that! That is completely horrifying to think that grandparents could leave their little granddaughter rotting in woods to save their lying, coniving, horrific daughter!

These people are below the lowest. He77 is waiting for them.

IMO I think they knew right where she was.. Why would you send your PI's to the exact location? When Caylee's found then you start screaming for immunity . WHY? Innocent people dont need IMMUNITY!FL needs to charge these people who have cover for the murderers, child molesters, who have obstructed justice, hinders investigations, destroys evidence, tampers with evidence, and WHO LIE to LE and FBI. Once they start doing that it may stop others from helping the MURDERERS!! IMO they knew from day one she was dead.

[AMS]

Meter reader to give first interview since Caylee Anthony's remains were identified
Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writer
10:31 AM EST, January 12, 2009

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-011209,0,1156882.story

From the link:

Payment could come later for Kronk, who is considering selling limited licensing of the photo of the area where the remains were located, Evans said.

[Neffy]

These are from Nov 29, a lot has happened since then, whats the hold up?

What's the hurry? I would think they'd want to make sure there was nothing else. If they're going to be charged they'll be charged for the totality of what they find and not only after one thing.

[Dunlurken]

First thing.."Welcome to the dark side"

Second thing....George was a pawn.....he has been doing what he is told to do his whole life with Cindy...Still no excuse though.

Lock him up next to Cindy

Having no guts to stand up for what is right is no excuse
And not caring about Caylee upsets me terribly. Why they didn't call the cops for 31 days makes them ALMOST as bad as Casey. She's the one who did the deed, and they sat back and twiddled their thumbs. JMO.

Then, hark! Realization. Nah, I ain't buying what they're selling. JMO.

[daHawg]

There is a video of Cindy explaining this to the media . Thats where I got that info. She gave details of how this came to be .

Yes she "explained" it and said that she told LE that it was a brush shared by both Casey and Caylee and that they were fine with that. Do you believe that? After knowing how she said they were aware she washed the pants that night when in reality they didn't? When she said they knew about the money she took out of the wallet that night when in reality they didn't? When she said that she gave them all the receipts when we found out that she didn't give them the JCPenney's receipts because she looked at them and deemed there was nothing there for them to see? Naaaaaaah not buying her explanation that LE knew that was a shared hair brush.:sneaky:

[Lavenia]

It certainly could have...but if the tape BELONGS to the As, that means that they've known about it since at least the day it happened(I assume Dominic and Hoover charged for those hours they were out there and I doubt the As would have been paying for something they didn't authorize or know anything about). JMO

This is a good point trt.

Okay, my mind is toast today so I'll ask for help in remembering. What were they Anthony's saying in general after this date? Wasn't this tape made right around the same night they were on LKL? Did they make any other appearance or statements after this?

[destiny1]

Asking for immunity is usually not a big deal, happens all the time... just
in this case they have definately found the need for it by their deceptions.

What sadly amuses me, as a person with some background in LE is that LE has said almost nothing about charging these people, nor have we heard anything from the SA of FL. In my opinion, they are all scrambling and LE is watching them squirm.

[Stella Rose]

That quote ranks right up there with

"When is lying against the law?

"The trunk was filled with maggots and pizza"

" George said that to the FBI because he was stressed" (The Smell)

" Casey is a great mom, she is a great daughter"


Among many others

Don't forget her "Casey will be nominated for Mother of the Year". My personal favorite or Cindy's Greatest Hits err... mistruths.

[SavannahStar]

In the end LE did not feel that she obstructed justice and I assume it is because it is FACT that they were able to obtain what they needed from the hairbrush Cindy turned over to them . If they had not ,perhaps she would have been arrested, because she was NOT arrested we can ascertain she was not proved to have obstructed justice.


If she were trying to keep hair info from them and turn over a doggy toothbrush she would have done just that ,but she turned in a brush known to contain Caylees hair.

Its in the past and answered for , they have moved on and so should we on this aspect.


Caylee's body was found and there is a video being passed around like a hot potato ............just so interesting huh?

Isn't that the bottom line, really, ....... she turned in a brush she knew contained Caylee's hair.

[In Pro Se]

Cold hard facts are the A's Attorney states the A's are not being arrested.


He states it is his own doing that they ask for immunity he says he would not defend anyone, anyone without this in a case such as this.

Her contention that LE agrees with her could very well be based on the fact their Attorney states they are not going to be arrested, leading her to believe this.


These are the FACTS today as we know them ,they could change ,but right now it stands as these are the FACTS.


I don't think they will ever be arrested, based on the info known so far. Its like people are chomipn at the bit to see these people suffer even more than the unimaginable agony they are going through. How cold and cruel to wish more suffering upon broken people.

[desmom]

I agree. I can't wait for the 8/14 jailhouse interview. The noose was tightening around that time.

8/3 George visits Casey
8/6 8 Bags removed from Anthony house
8/8 DNA from Casey
8/8 Casey refuses visit from Lee
8/9 Caylee’s birthday
8/10 Casey cancels visit with George & Cindy
8/11 Meter reader/physic
8/11 Appeals court denies motion to lower bond
8/12 Lee cancels visit with Casey
8/13 Cindy interview http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7204062&version=1&locale=EN-US

8/14 Jailhouse visit (rumored that Casey as upset with her family)

Maybe it will be released today. :biggrin:

JB's Motion to Compel Release of Video Visitations of George and Cindy Anthony on August 14, 2008 (page 8 http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0108/18437718.pdf ) said "a number of suspicious activities, which may include Police misconduct, relates directly to this visitation", but during the motion hearing he played it down saying something like it was the only one he does not have.

On August 14, George screams at a reporter in the parking lot going into the jail and Cindy talks about a call she had received the night before regarding a tip.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7205820&version=1&locale=EN-US

When they come out of the jail, the reporter said George appeared to drying tears and they did not answer any questions from reporters.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7207005&version=1&locale=EN-US

Casey wrote a letter to the Sherriff on August 14 http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608lettertosheriff/1/lg/CaseyLetterToSheriff_Page_3.htm

What happened during that visitation on August 14?

[Lavenia]

There is a video of Cindy explaining this to the media . Thats where I got that info. She gave details of how this came to be .

Oh, I'm well aware of what she SAID... :rolleyes:

[Neffy]

This is a good point trt.

Okay, my mind is toast today so I'll ask for help in remembering. What were they Anthony's saying in general after this date? Wasn't this tape made right around the same night they were on LKL? Did they make any other appearance or statements after this?

I don't have the dates in front of me. Off the top of my head I'd venture to guess about a month before the LKL. LKL was done the day before the remains were found in Dec. This tape was made in Nov.

[trt]

This is a good point trt.

Okay, my mind is toast today so I'll ask for help in remembering. What were they Anthony's saying in general after this date? Wasn't this tape made right around the same night they were on LKL? Did they make any other appearance or statements after this?

Thanks Lavenia...IIRC, this tape was made in Nov...they went to be on LKL the day before Caylee was found(12/10) which means they KNEW about this tape (after all, Casey was working for THEM and the tape BELONGS TO THEM per their lawyer) and were still talking about a live Caylee and circulating the picture of the little girl in Orlando Mall. JMO

[Dunlurken]

Cindy has a record of lying to the media and even to LE. I don't know that her explanation of events can be trusted. JMO

Rotting pizza in the car. Do you know how hot it gets here? There were maggots everywhere. Yeah, Cindy....go for it. Cover up for your daughter. JMO.

[destiny1]

These are from Nov 29, a lot has happened since then, whats the hold up?

By the way, there are more incrimminating activities on the anthonys part.

The statute of limitations has long arms.

LE and the Prosecutors have plenty of time.

[BANJO GRANNY]

And I have a strong feeling one may happen very soon. I do not have any inside info, but boy it does feel like something big is brewing. Anyone else sense this?
I think C.A., G.A., AND L.A. are all involved in someway, either covering up for Casey or more IMO I hope that ANYONE involved in any way get arrested and put in jail and stay there forever, what has happened to this child from the time she was murdered up till now is UNFORGIVEABLE IMO:cursing:






:rose:FOR BABY CAYLEE
REST IN PEACE SWEETIE
THERE WILL BE JUSTICE FOR YOU SOON

[*MoonRider*]

Rotting pizza in the car. Do you know how hot it gets here? There were maggots everywhere. Yeah, Cindy....go for it. Cover up for your daughter. JMO.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=46540064

This video shows a lot of the lies. Of course it would take a mini-series to cover all of the LIES.

[destiny1]

Rotting pizza in the car. Do you know how hot it gets here? There were maggots everywhere. Yeah, Cindy....go for it. Cover up for your daughter. JMO.


Processed meats with acidic sauces does not produce the smell of death, either. What a maroon! Some of these coverup lies just don't hold much water.

[Loves2Read]

In the end LE did not feel that she obstructed justice and I assume it is because it is FACT that they were able to obtain what they needed from the hairbrush Cindy turned over to them . If they had not ,perhaps she would have been arrested, because she was NOT arrested we can ascertain she was not proved to have obstructed justice.


If she were trying to keep hair info from them and turn over a doggy toothbrush she would have done just that ,but she turned in a brush known to contain Caylees hair.

Its in the past and answered for , they have moved on and so should we on this aspect.


Caylee's body was found and there is a video being passed around like a hot potato ............just so interesting huh?

huh? Did you read the post you responded to?

You said she had the brush right there/ I said she had to go get one

You said the Caylee's real brush didn't cross her mind/ I said it did.

If you could just respond to what I posted and not drag in a bunch of stuff that I have not been involved in that would just be super! Thanks.

[NYGalPal]

:thumbdown:Cold hard facts are the A's Attorney states the A's are not being arrested.


He states it is his own doing that they ask for immunity he says he would not defend anyone, anyone without this in a case such as this.

Her contention that LE agrees with her could very well be based on the fact their Attorney states they are not going to be arrested, leading her to believe this.


These are the FACTS today as we know them ,they could change ,but right now it stands as these are the FACTS.Who is this "we"?

I would never rely on you for cold hard facts since it is clear you made up what he said. Back it up with a link. Are you daring to speak for an attorney without permission? Are you kidding?

Sheesh!!

[Stella Rose]

>>>Snip<<<

Having no guts to stand up for what is right is no excuse

Thanks for the welcome. And I suspect Stockholm Syndrome for George. Only partially kidding here. Can you imagine living with those two? Cindy made me BSC just watching her interviews.

[Regina.Lampert]

http://www.wesh.com/news/18371232/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- George and Cindy Anthony, grandparents of Caylee Anthony, have agreed to cooperate with prosecutors as long as they are guaranteed immunity, according to their attorney.

Are they saying that they will not cooperate with prosecutors, if the don't get immunity?

They have trying to control this investigation since day 1. Cleaning out the car, not questioning Casey...letting her get away with murder, literaly.

Remember Cindy in the Yuri Melich interview? She asked,....Are you looking for a live or dead Caylee? She needed to find out what direction the investigation was going.

Remember when KFN came on the scene and the attack on Kathy Belich? Kfn was the only children organization that would have anything to do with them

Remember TES? When Cindy got into it with Tim Miller? Again, they wanted TES to look for a live Caylee, for public opinion in my mind.

Remember Larry King? All the ouright lies? Why? They knew they were introuble at that point....they were fillabustering....said a lot of stuff that made no sense to anyone that reads the newspaper.

Remember all the searches that she never took part of?..Why?...because she knew the baby was dead and where she was.

Remember the Ritz Carlton? Do we know of Larry king paid for that? Or where they trying to spend as much of the donations as possible before the word got out?

A lot of questions that point to one thing and one thing only.

Cindy and George(the Mouse) need to be checking into the cell next to Casey's.....no worries....we will chip in to rename the prison wing, the Anthony wing.

IMo of course


Says it all Mac. Only willing to cooperate with law enforcement if they get immunity??? In the MURDER of their granddaughter??? Freaking unbelievable. Yep, mommy and daddy definetly have a legal exposure.

IMO, the prosecutor's should go forward with this case without help from the anthonys and at the appropriate time, charge them with obstruction and whatever other charges they can, based on what other illegal things they have done.

[BANJO GRANNY]

If they knew about the body or death-I wonder what the conversations were like regarding getting tips of sighting and pictures of children. I just wonder if any of these were staged. I think the only one that they checked out was the one in CA- conveniently on the day Caylee was found. jmo
IMO Most or all of the sighting was staged



:rose:FOR BABY CAYLEE
REST IN PEACE SWEETIE
THERE WILL BE JUSTICE FOR YOU SOON

[marshmallow]

Yours is a little off too. She didn't have any brush right there on hand. She went and got Casey's brush that "they shared". She thought of the brush in her bathroom that was Caylee's real hair brush.... she just didn't bother to go get it.



the Anthonys just didn't bother to do a lot of things.

[In Pro Se]

By the way, there are more incrimminating activities on the anthonys part.

The statute of limitations has long arms.

LE and the Prosecutors have plenty of time.


Can you tell us what the statute of limitations is for each specific crime you think they should be charged with?

[happygert]

What was in those emails that was accidentally sent to that reporter from CA? Did we ever see those. (The ones that CA said her computer was hacked) imo

No and nothing else about her computer being hacked either..IMO it wasn't hack cindy just hit wrong address when she sent them imo.. I've done that myself..

[dgfred]

What sadly amuses me, as a person with some background in LE is that LE has said almost nothing about charging these people, nor have we heard anything from the SA of FL. In my opinion, they are all scrambling and LE is watching them squirm.

I agree, they might be seeing if they can dig an even bigger hole to put themselves in.

[trt]

The A's have not been arrested to date . That is FACT. What is your point?

Casey was also not immediately arrested for the murder of her daughter. Not being arrested doesn't equal innocence is the point many are making.

JMO

[ishkabibble]

Interesting that Conway says the tape belongs to the Anthonys....why did he not explain why Casey was searching there.....did the Anthonys
send him there?
Why was he even searching since according to Anthonys Caylee was alive and why was he not investigating the tips they say they had received about a live Caylee?

No matter why he was hired, I would think a good PI would want to cover all bases. Perhaps he was told to search for an alive Caylee and yet all the infor he found pointed to a deceased one. Should he just not follow up? I would also like to see proof that the Anthony's paid him and that he didn't just volunteer to help, and with Hoover tagging along on the search it sounds fishy, why would he bring, in essence, a rival with him. I doubt Hoover was there out of the goodness of his heart.

[Loves2Read]

The A's have not been arrested to date . That is FACT. What is your point?

Your post made it seem like the only people to trust in all of this was the A's and their lawyer.

That's my point.

[marshmallow]

The A's have not been arrested to date . That is FACT. What is your point?

not arrested yet does not = innocent of deception. it only = lucky so far

[marshmallow]

Exactly. Thank you.

I'll hold off and see what happens. They certainly have lied and deceived. The fact that they haven't been charged..yet.. doesn't mean they have been honest and cooperative.

[Stella Rose]

I don't think they will ever be arrested, based on the info known so far. Its like people are chomipn at the bit to see these people suffer even more than the unimaginable agony they are going through. How cold and cruel to wish more suffering upon broken people.

I don't mean to speak for anyone but myself, but (I guess I am). Honestly I don't think anyone here wants them to suffer more. They want them to face the consequences for outright lying to the police while their grand daughter was presumed missing, sending everyone on various wild goose chases, misrepresenting facts, (etc.), and I know want someone to stand up and speak for Caylee. How is that cruel?

[trt]

No matter why he was hired, I would think a good PI would want to cover all bases. Perhaps he was told to search for an alive Caylee and yet all the infor he found pointed to a deceased one. Should he just not follow up? I would also like to see proof that the Anthony's paid him and that he didn't just volunteer to help, and with Hoover tagging along on the search it sounds fishy, why would he bring, in essence, a rival with him. I doubt Hoover was there out of the goodness of his heart.

If he was truly working for the As, he would have to get approval for any time that he was going to bill them for, right? So even if this was just a *hunch* on his part, wouldn't the As know about it? Why wouldn't they stop him just as they tried to stop Tim Miller? Why not trash him in the media for *deceiving* them? How, then, does the tape belong to the As if it was just about a PI being thorough? I think the As know a lot more about this tape than they have previously let on.

JMO

[Neffy]

:thumbdown:Who is this "we"?

I would never rely on you for cold hard facts since it is clear you made up what he said. Back it up with a link. Are you daring to speak for an attorney without permission? Are you kidding?

Sheesh!!

You do remember when you keep banging your head to the wall all you do is end up with a bloody head right? :)

[Lavenia]

Isn't that the bottom line, really, ....... she turned in a brush she knew contained Caylee's hair.

IMO, no. I have NO doubt that LE asked specifically for her (Caylee's) personal items. They do that for a reason. They don't want to have to tease out all the extraneous DNA in the sample. It's VERY expensive, and it isn't up to Cindy to try to second guess whether she could "stretch" the request. It was a misrepresentation. I would be okay with it if she *asked* if they were alright if she gave the hairbrush that she did, but just by her not asking, she knew it was wrong. She's a nurse, and she knows damn good and well the implication of what she was doing. It was a real F-you gesture to LE, IMO.

[islandgirl36542]

Processed meats with acidic sauces does not produce the smell of death, either. What a maroon! Some of these coverup lies just don't hold much water.

but per CA your going to hell if you dont believe it.

imo

:thumbdown:

[NYGalPal]

not arrested yet does not = innocent of deception. it only = lucky so far

It was posted yesterday that the LE were waiting until after Caylee was buried to interview them. Hence, no burial. The deception continues.

:cursing:

[kitty1182]

So does that mean the MR also has video tape of the recovery area?



Lordy, this case is giving me a heady ache....

[trt]

I agree.


Chomping at the bit is a grand description . Another poster stated :

All may think they know what they would do having been presented with the same scenario ,but when it comes right down to it , you don't know how your emotions will lead you . this is TRUE in ANY drastic life changing event , you can only surmise what you would do ,how you would react .


I base my feelings on all I have read and seen in this case from day one and its a TRUCKLOAD of grief and despair .


There is never going to be anything come out or presented that leads me to believe that the 3 calls made to 911 on 7-15-08 are a HOAX , those calls were as genuine as God IMO , no way no how was Cindy FAKING any of that ,so that tells me she had no knowledge of anything , maybe fear ,suspicion mind wandering in the midst of severe anxiety which is to be expected , and anything that transpired AFTER is everyones GUESS only , That is the bottom line



MOO

I know that there would be NO circumstance that would present itself that would allow me to KNOWINGLY cover for a murderer, whether or not that murderer shared my blood. There are certain situations where the *you have to be in their shoes to know how you would respond* would be appropriate and others where one knows, based on their own morals and principles, how they would respond. My child does not have to be in pool drowning for me to know that I would risk my own life to save him/her from the pool. Neither do I have to be in a situation where my loved one murdered someone else(especially another loved one) to know that I WOULD NOT do ANYTHING to cover for said loved one.

JMO

[marshmallow]

I don't think they will ever be arrested, based on the info known so far. Its like people are chomipn at the bit to see these people suffer even more than the unimaginable agony they are going through. How cold and cruel to wish more suffering upon broken people.



Just because Caylee was a victim of their daughter's crime doesn't mean they have not lied and deceived the authorities. I do not understand why anyone would give another person, who willfully deceived LE/FBI, a free pass.

Does this mean, in your eyes, anyone who has had a relative become a crime victim deserves a free pass on any laws they break? I think it will set an interesting precident. "Your honor, my client(s) should be allowed to get away with <insert crime here> because they are related to a victim of a crime as set forth in the Anthony case in FLA" :thumbdown:

[destiny1]

but per CA your going to hell if you dont believe it.

imo

:thumbdown:
They lie so much I wouldn't want to be within 100 yards of any of them in a lightning storm.

[NYGalPal]

You do remember when you keep banging your head to the wall all you do is end up with a bloody head right? :)

I would never do that. I'm sure the As attorney would not appreciate someone claiming he made statements when he didn't. Same goes for making statements on behalf of the LE.

[Neffy]

So does that mean the MR also has video tape of the recovery area?


Certainly sounds that way to me. Good for him.

My impression is he's just like us. The only difference is we're on this board and he's in the vicinity to do the legwork.

[AMS]

So does that mean the MR also has video tape of the recovery area?

I'm not sure what photo he is talking about.

[Regina.Lampert]

Meter reader to give first interview since Caylee Anthony's remains were identified
Bianca Prieto | Sentinel Staff Writer
10:31 AM EST, January 12, 2009

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-011209,0,1156882.story

From the link:

Payment could come later for Kronk, who is considering selling limited licensing of the photo of the area where the remains were located, Evans said.

Oh boy, we should have assumed that Kronk took photos. I bet he has some of that skull too....... :sad:

[Lavenia]

Thanks Neffy and trt for putting the timeline together for me about the videotape and the A's appearance on LKL. :thumbup:

[Neffy]

I would never do that. I'm sure the As attorney would not appreciate someone claiming he made statements when he didn't. Same goes for making statements on behalf of the LE.

By replying you are. Done it myself and probably will in the future.

I hate to see it on the board myself and some days you just can't TAKES IT NO MO! :)

[happygert]

Cold hard facts are the A's Attorney states the A's are not being arrested.


He states it is his own doing that they ask for immunity he says he would not defend anyone, anyone without this in a case such as this.

Her contention that LE agrees with her could very well be based on the fact their Attorney states they are not going to be arrested, leading her to believe this.


These are the FACTS today as we know them ,they could change ,but right now it stands as these are the FACTS.

cold hard facts haven't hear whether FBI WILL CHARGE THEM......Keeping fingers CROSSED!!!

[In Pro Se]

I don't mean to speak for anyone but myself, but (I guess I am). Honestly I don't think anyone here wants them to suffer more. They want them to face the consequences for outright lying to the police while their grand daughter was presumed missing, sending everyone on various wild goose chases, misrepresenting facts, (etc.), and I know want someone to stand up and speak for Caylee. How is that cruel?


The presumption that Caylee wants any of you to speak for her is wrong to begin with. Caylee loved her grandparents, and they loved her more than you could ever imagine. If Caylee could speak for herself, I believe she would be saying leave them alone, and crying over the treatment of them by heartless strangers.

imo

[Dunlurken]

My favorite part of that tape was when George yelled " The person that was in the back of that car WAS NOT MY GRANDDAUGHTER!!"



He is so "done".

[*MoonRider*]

Someone need an Ativan??:tonguewag:

[destiny1]

Why are you questioning anyone who is making their assumptions based on police movement? Meaning, if they haven't arrested them for lying to them, and whatever some think they have done, who the heck am I to be the law and convict them before they are even charged? I for one know better than to take the actions of someone who is traumatized as gospel and truth, unless you think the Anthonys were not the least bit shaken or traumatized by Caylee being gone whatsoever?



So sad,



It could go either way. "WE" as in many of us here on THIS message board in THIS world see the legal possibilities.

Time will tell.

[happygert]

Oct. 14th ....

Thanks MoonRider..

[Loves2Read]

I just find it very telling that the Anthony's (the poor suffering grandparent's as a very few call them) have made no move to put that sweet little angel to rest. They are just letting her remains sit in a cardboard box at a funeral home. Are they so broken by her death they can't do what is right?

They aren't so broken by her death that they couldn't find a lawyer that would ask for immunity for them. Not so broken up by her death that they couldn't offer Geraldo a video taken of the area where Caylee's body was found "free of charge".

[SavannahStar]

No, and getting banned over and over doesn't stop her either. Another nic immediately pops up.

I got sent to band camp once, but I don't understand how posters permanently banned manage to manuver back again and again.


I wouldn't even bother talking about who has been banned and who has not. If you look at the post count for all posters, there is a VERY wide range of opinions belonging to "new" (back from being banned) posters. So, it appears there are actually quite a few posters who get banned and come back, on BOTH "sides" of all arguments on here. It's totally and completely moot. IMO.

[destiny1]

Oh boy, we should have assumed that Kronk took photos. I bet he has some of that skull too....... :sad:

This is worse than some political machinations! everybody is feeding!

Just when I thought Kronk was only going to take money for an interview and be4 done with it!

[NYGalPal]

By replying you are. Done it myself and probably will in the future.

I hate to see it on the board myself and some days you just can't TAKES IT NO MO! :)
You are right.

Do you think the LE will go after the As this week since they don't seem to have any plans on buring Caylee?

[happygert]

Yours is a little off too. She didn't have any brush right there on hand. She went and got Casey's brush that "they shared". She thought of the brush in her bathroom that was Caylee's real hair brush.... she just didn't bother to go get it.

Exactly! and in the evidence list it Clearly states Caylee's hairbrush..

[Dells]

Good morning, everyone!

Well, I watched the 12:00 edition of Geraldo last night. I saw the tape and all I can say is how do they know that is the exact spot that Caylee was found? That area looks the same everywhere so I don't think it would be possible to say definitively if that was the exact spot that Caylee was found. Geraldo kept saying and several times that it was the exact spot Caylee was found.:unsure: Then Conway had to chime in that if it was the spot where Caylee was, then her body was placed there later.:sneaky: We already have an idea from some of the reports that the reports from the entomologist and the botanist show that the body was there since June. It gave me the feeling that Geraldo and Conway were trying to muddy the waters to perhaps get some people (potential jurors?) to believe that Caylee was placed there later. If Conway was agreeing w/this then I have to wonder if the Anthony's do as well. That whole segment just didn't sit well w/me.:glare:

[Stella Rose]

Does it matter?....I have never heard of a statute of limitations being shorter then 8 months. About how long this has been going on.

I miss your point here.http://www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/052606TheQuestion.html

Found this link:

quote from link "On Florida, the statute of limitations on a false instrument or statement doesn't start running until the falsity is discovered..."

I think this may apply here.

[Neffy]

Cold hard facts are the A's Attorney states the A's are not being arrested.


He states it is his own doing that they ask for immunity he says he would not defend anyone, anyone without this in a case such as this.

Her contention that LE agrees with her could very well be based on the fact their Attorney states they are not going to be arrested, leading her to believe this.


These are the FACTS today as we know them ,they could change ,but right now it stands as these are the FACTS.

LOL. Baez says Casey's not guilty in cold hard facts aka by verbally stating this . What's your point?

Attorney's say lots o'things.

[playnice]

The presumption that Caylee wants any of you to speak for her is wrong to begin with. Caylee loved her grandparents, and they loved her more than you could ever imagine. If Caylee could speak for herself, I believe she would be saying leave them alone, and crying over the treatment of them by heartless strangers.

imo

Caylee was a loving child with a pure heart. I agree she would do that . I dont doubt she loved mommy too and I also believe she would say to leave mommy alone too.

[destiny1]

How many hearings have there been . These few hearings have held up others cases for 2 months because ............they had a few hearings ,? How many judges are there ? How many court rooms are there . Sounds to me like some are making excuses for not getting work done . I say some need to better utilize their time and get BUSY working .

For every hearing and every motion, there is probably triple the man hours in work required to fulfill it all.

Deal with it.

[Dells]

No link yet, but I just heard on Fox Orlando, Thurs. pretrial hearing has been cancelled. No reason given.

moo

Oh, interesting. I hope we find out the reason why sometime today.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Meter reader to give first interview since Caylee Anthony's remains were identified
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-011209,0,1156882.story

[Mairi II]

The presumption that Caylee wants any of you to speak for her is wrong to begin with. Caylee loved her grandparents, and they loved her more than you could ever imagine. If Caylee could speak for herself, I believe she would be saying leave them alone, and crying over the treatment of them by heartless strangers.

imo

I suspect Caylee's voice would be heard to say more along the lines of, Grandma and Grandpa... didn't you love me? How come you let me lie out here all alone?

[nc1948]

Snipping your post as I only wanted to address this part quickly.

To my knowledge (someone correct me if I'm wrong), this tidbit came ONLY FROM LEONARD PADILLA. A crack he made on NG one night.

It seems to me there are more than just a few little pieces of information floating around that have rather dubious beginnings.

We do NOT know if this is fact, that she joked around about the dog hair brush. (BTW, IIRC, it was the dog's toothbrush, I think.) IMO.

Savannah you are correct, it was toothbrush. I thought LP said it was in an email from Cindy. Of course we have not seen the email. That is one of the major problems with this case. TMI for my brain, I said earlier I need an assistant to make me a list of rumors, confirmed rumors, disproven rumors, facts, lies, or just opinions. When the finally gets to court I will probably be flabbergasted at what is really the truth.
Of course there will so much we will never know. Such as this about the toothbrush. Lots of the info is posted and I leave before the information is corrected or verified. Kind of like Geraldo, correction was after a commercial and not made by Geraldo. Do you get the idea that I am confused. Well that is a fact, not rumor or supposition. It is the truth.

[SavannahStar]

I suspect Caylee's voice would be heard to say more along the lines of, Grandma and Grandpa... didn't you love me? How come you let lie out here all alone?

It's my belief Caylee is in heaven and wasn't lying there all alone.

[marshmallow]

The presumption that Caylee wants any of you to speak for her is wrong to begin with. Caylee loved her grandparents, and they loved her more than you could ever imagine. If Caylee could speak for herself, I believe she would be saying leave them alone, and crying over the treatment of them by heartless strangers.

imo


your opinion, and you speaking for a murdered child, has been noted.
I, myself, have no doubt Caylee loved her Grandparents and that they also loved her deeply. That's why, to me, it is so difficult to understand why they lied to LE/FBI.

[happygert]

In the end LE did not feel that she obstructed justice and I assume it is because it is FACT that they were able to obtain what they needed from the hairbrush Cindy turned over to them . If they had not ,perhaps she would have been arrested, because she was NOT arrested we can ascertain she was not proved to have obstructed justice.


If she were trying to keep hair info from them and turn over a doggy toothbrush she would have done just that ,but she turned in a brush known to contain Caylees hair.

Its in the past and answered for , they have moved on and so should we on this aspect.


Caylee's body was found and there is a video being passed around like a hot potato ............just so interesting huh?

GET you COLD HARD FACTS STRAIGHT....It was NOT the LE who aksed for CAYLEE'S HAIRBRUSH IT WAS FBI!!!!!

[Dells]

So is this who is asking the "kings ransom" for the video?

IMO, Geraldo was eluding to the fact that it was Hoover on his show last night. Geraldo is trying to discredit him and trying to make it seem like D. Casey is PI of the year.

[Stella Rose]

The presumption that Caylee wants any of you to speak for her is wrong to begin with. Caylee loved her grandparents, and they loved her more than you could ever imagine. If Caylee could speak for herself, I believe she would be saying leave them alone, and crying over the treatment of them by heartless strangers.

imo

The preumption you made is that I was talking about US speaking for Caylee. I was speaking of her grandparents. And as for heartless, well, In Pro Se, you do not know me, so please keep your presumptions about my heart to yourself.

[summer4meplz]

Oh boy, we should have assumed that Kronk took photos. I bet he has some of that skull too....... :sad:


I wonder how much he was paid for the "licensing fee"....if this photo is important evidence....can he still sell it?

[SavannahStar]

Savannah you are correct, it was toothbrush. I thought LP said it was in an email from Cindy. Of course we have not seen the email. That is one of the major problems with this case. TMI for my brain, I said earlier I need an assistant to make me a list of rumors, confirmed rumors, disproven rumors, facts, lies, or just opinions. When the finally gets to court I will probably be flabbergasted at what is really the truth.
Of course there will so much we will never know. Such as this about the toothbrush. Lots of the info is posted and I leave before the information is corrected or verified. Kind of like Geraldo, correction was after a commercial and not made by Geraldo. Do you get the idea that I am confused. Well that is a fact, not rumor or supposition. It is the truth.

Hey you're not alone. I'm confused and need one of those assistants too! :smile:

[Neffy]

You are right.

Do you think the LE will go after the As this week since they don't seem to have any plans on buring Caylee?

If Le is going to charge them, they're not going to charge them until they turn everything over to the State. There's still an investigation going on and they're not going to charge and then add on.

Just look at this tape. That could possiby render new charges. It's not over until LE say's it's over.

[5boxersmom]

If the video showed last night belongs to the Anthony's why was Geraldo saying the night before Hoover wanted a King's Ransom for it? :confused:

[NYGalPal]

LOL. Baez says Casey's not guilty in cold hard facts aka by verbally stating this . What's your point?

Attorney's say lots o'things.

Doesn't know the difference between a statement an attorney would make and what a cold hard fact is. It is their job to say their client is innocent. Doesn't make it so. :lol:

[happygert]

and not caring about caylee upsets me terribly. Why they didn't call the cops for 31 days makes them almost as bad as casey. She's the one who did the deed, and they sat back and twiddled their thumbs. Jmo.

Then, hark! Realization. Nah, i ain't buying what they're selling. Jmo.

ita........

[kitty1182]

No kidding, i have that person you quoted on ignore as to avoid the people who post like her with the intent on disturbing the peace,while ignoring the obvious.

Anyways, so now it appears Kronk has videotape of the footage, isn't that just bizarre?



Like I said this case is giving me a heady ache...:closedeyes:

[ishkabibble]

Of course he is innocent and a good samaritan unlike the anthony family. I cant understand how some people are blaming him for the murder of caylee all because he found the body and he had placed tips 3 times in the past. The anthonys are more guilty then anyone else.

Agreed, let's no tmake a huge conspiracy out of this, it's really a very simple case like so many others, a mother kills her child and tells a BS story about what happened. We read about cases like this several times a year. Yeah the circumstances are unusual. 31 days, mystery nanny, lies, but the basic fact is the same. yes there are a lot of peripheral characters, but they don't all have to have an immediate connection to the case, trying to tie them all together is impossible. Kronk has found the body, that may be the only connection he has. trying to hook him up with some other character muddies the water. he may not have a perfect past, but no one does. If we require that any witnesses have a 100% pristine background, we are ruling about 99% of the population out.

[Dells]

Whatever it is Tam, I'm just glad it's coming out now before the trial. No surprises at trial!!!

I agree with you though. Too many coincidences in this case.

I agree, let everything come out now so the trial can go nice and smoothly.

[ellegna]

It certainly could have...but if the tape BELONGS to the As, that means that they've known about it since at least the day it happened(I assume Dominic and Hoover charged for those hours they were out there and I doubt the As would have been paying for something they didn't authorize or know anything about). JMO


Whoa! Just thought of something
If this tape somehow proves the A's knew Caylee was dead but continued to request donations to search for a Live Caylee, wouldn't that be considered fraud? Last I checked fraud is a chargeable offense.
Maybe the A's were a tad too hasty claiming ownership of Hoover's tape. It may come back to haunt them.

[NYGalPal]

If Le is going to charge them, they're not going to charge them until they turn everything over to the State. There's still an investigation going on and they're not going to charge and then add on.

Just look at this tape. That could possiby render new charges. It's not over until LE say's it's over.

Hopefully the wheels are a turning as we type. That tape is very telling. Just add it to the long list of deception from the As. :thumbup:

[~jomomma~]

Oh boy, we should have assumed that Kronk took photos. I bet he has some of that skull too....... :sad:

oh gosh reggie....my stomach just did flips thinking about that one

:sad:

[marshmallow]

No kidding, i have that person you quoted on ignore as to avoid the people who post like her with the intent on disturbing the peace,while ignoring the obvious.

Anyways, so now it appears Kronk has videotape of the footage, isn't that just bizarre?




I thought it was photos.
And, in my opinion, I figured cell phone photos.

[Pooh]

Hi MacDaddy,

Ya know, I have always been skeptical about George's Nigerian scam story. I wouldn't be surprised of he was forced by Cindy to take the fall for some huge financial bug-a-boo pulled by Casey. Cindy, IMO, needed an excuse to give relatives as to why they were in deep $$$ doo-doo yet another time as a result of Casey's on-going shenanigans.

That Nigerian tale sounds too preposterous even for George.

IMO

OMG - I had forgotten about that Nigerian thing. Until I read the emails from Cindy's mom, I hadn't realized how long George hadn't worked. Seems weird that Cindy would let him get away with that for so long given the financial straights Casey put them in. Why would he sit around like a bum for years on end?

[JHP]

Whoa! Just thought of something
If this tape somehow proves the A's knew Caylee was dead but continued to request donations to search for a Live Caylee, wouldn't that be considered fraud? Last I checked fraud is a chargeable offense.
Maybe the A's were a tad too hasty claiming ownership of Hoover's tape. It may come back to haunt them.

And they weren't just doing it in the Publix parking lot. It was on national T.V.

JMO

[kitty1182]

oh gosh reggie....my stomach just did flips thinking about that one

:sad:



Mine too.......

[spiritwolf46]

OMG :( did ANYONE that came in contact with Caylee in her life or after death have ANY respect for her?


This seems to be one of the best questions of the year.

Personally and sadly, I don't think so, Fallen. :(

[~jomomma~]

If the video showed last night belongs to the Anthony's why was Geraldo saying the night before Hoover wanted a King's Ransom for it? :confused:

wait! was there a video shown last night??? i missed it!!!

[destiny1]

oh gosh reggie....my stomach just did flips thinking about that one

:sad:

I just hope that whatever he has is kept secure, and doesn't end up in some eccentric(dark freak) auction. That would be so sad, and horrific.

[marshmallow]

Doesn't know the difference between a statement an attorney would make and what a cold hard fact is. It is their job to say their client is innocent. Doesn't make it so. :lol:



exactly, that sums up the Anthony's atty's comments to a t!
I think I've earned a fresh cup of coffee, so have you :)

[summer4meplz]

your opinion, and you speaking for a murdered child, has been noted.
I, myself, have no doubt Caylee loved her Grandparents and that they also loved her deeply. That's why, to me, it is so difficult to understand why they lied to LE/FBI.


I agree totally that Caylee loved her mother and her grandparents with all her little heart.......that's why it's so hard for me to imagine cindy being supportive of casey when casey DUCT TAPED Caylee's mouth because she was probably screaming for cici.....i just don't understand cici and jojo being so supportive of their granddaughter's murderer.....

[BANJO GRANNY]

I suspect Caylee's voice would be heard to say more along the lines of, Grandma and Grandpa... didn't you love me? How come you let me lie out here all alone?
I agree


:rose:FOR BABY CAYLEE
REST IN PEACE SWEETIE
JUSTICE FOR YOU WILL BE SERVED SOON

[*MoonRider*]

Correct......It is fraud....they took donations right up until the 11th if IRC

According to their website they are still seeking donations.:confused:
http://helpfindcaylee.usualbeings.com/help.html

And people wonder why we have no sympathy for them.

[5boxersmom]

wait! was there a video shown last night??? i missed it!!!

Yeah on Geraldo.

[Pooh]

For every hearing and every motion, there is probably triple the man hours in work required to fulfill it all.

Deal with it.

No doubt, destiny! I don't doubt for a second that the State of Orlando and that county specifically are stretched to the max resource-wise due to dealing with the Anthony case. There are only so many people avaiable during any one day and I can see a lot of time has been/is spent on the OC.

[Dells]

Whoa! Let's back up just a minute here..These are the same Anthony's who were seem skipping gleefully out of the jail saying "She's close! Casey says she close"??
And the same Anthony's who were ONLY searching for a LIVE Caylee?
those Anthony's?? They OWN this tape of a PI who is quite obviously looking for somehting (most likely evidence)? The same Anthony's who dissed TES and all the searchers? They sent a PI out to slash open garbage bags looking for what?
I honestly don't think this case can get any more bizarre. Can it?
Time for LE to take of the kid gloves where the Anthony's are concerned IMO

Well, I thought last night on Geraldo that I heard Conway elude to the fact that D. Casey was working for the Anthony's in reference to the tape and that he was looking for Caylee whether dead or alive. The is the first time I ever heard that the Anthony's were actively searching for a dead Caylee.

[KatieKates]

I suspect Caylee's voice would be heard to say more along the lines of, Grandma and Grandpa... didn't you love me? How come you let me lie out here all alone?

I can only assume this is to stir the pot, as this is actually a projection regarding your own feelings toward the gp's. Can we all stop speaking for the dead? She's in a place, imo, where perfection on the part of her loved ones is no longer required. So, please, give it a rest. How this became a place of us vs them when I believe we all came here for justice for Caylee is beyond me. I support the Anthony's and feel sorry for them, others have turned their anger solely on them and wish them to be punished....why do we feel the need to beat that drum in every post? Don't we get what one another believes already? And yes, I'm preaching again. Sue me. :scared:

[kitty1182]

I still want to know if JB has the rights to her remains...I have not received an answer back from KB yet..I emailed her and asked her if she knew.....
If Casey has signed over the remains to JB, then the A's can't do a funeral...Am I right?:confused:

[happygert]

IMO Most or all of the sighting was staged



:rose:FOR BABY CAYLEE
REST IN PEACE SWEETIE
THERE WILL BE JUSTICE FOR YOU SOON




Exactly BANJO GRANNY.. That way they can still ask for donations...JMHO

[trt]

I can only assume this is to stir the pot, as this is actually a projection regarding your own feelings toward the gp's. Can we all stop speaking for the dead? She's in a place, imo, where perfection on the part of her loved ones is no longer required. So, please, give it a rest. How this became a place of us vs them when I believe we all came here for justice for Caylee is beyond me. I support the Anthony's and feel sorry for them, others have turned their anger solely on them and wish them to be punished....why do we feel the need to beat that drum in every post? Don't we get what one another believes already? And yes, I'm preaching again. Sue me. :scared:

What many people feel about the As and their involvement and lack of assistance in putting an end to this madness a long time ago is germane to discussing justice for Caylee. You have sympathy for them so in your mind, justice for Caylee doesn't include them being held accountable for their lies and coverups to LE. To me, it does. So in the end, we are all still discussing justice for Caylee, just that my idea of what that entails is different from yours. I don't think its wrong for any of us to state what we feel about the players in this case (unless it goes against TOS).

JMO

[Neffy]

Hopefully the wheels are a turning as we type. That tape is very telling. Just add it to the long list of deception from the As. :thumbup:

Another interesting thing I recall is Geraldo (I know I know) had a women on can't recall her name. State prosectur or something of that nature. The obstruction/hindering law has only recently been passed as it pertains to family members. In the state of florida it's always been assumed the family would take the side of the member on trial.
That is no longer the case and it is now a crime.

I'm probably not stating it right so If I can find the vid I'll post the link.

[Dells]

Nope, no sense at all to me. On one hand Cindy is going to go for custody of Caylee.. On the other hand. She hasn't a clue what is going on w/Caylee.. To conflicting IMHO.

Cindy seems too controlling to not know everything. That is why I think she knows plenty.

[Stella Rose]

Yeah, I really dont think this MR has anything to do with anything, I think he was guided by a higher power, something. And really in this day and age of technology, I think you are right about the cell phone, it makes sense.

And if he did take photos - maybe he was trying to do so in order to cover his own butt - perhaps to show LE later how he found the bag or whatever he found exactly. Maybe he did it to prove that he did find something in case everyone ignored him again. Who knows.

Now if he takes those photos and sells them, the gloves are off and my respect for him will be completely gone.

[shelbar53]

You are wrong. Although Cindy didn't "joke around" re the hair brush issue, she does admit in an e-mail that she did not retrieve the hair brush used just for Caylee as requested by LE.

BTW, this information did not originate from Leonard Padilla.

video of cindy explaining giving the wrong hairbrush

http://daliagirl33.wordpress.com/2008/11/26/cindy-and-hairbrush/

[nc1948]

huh? Did you read the post you responded to?

You said she had the brush right there/ I said she had to go get one

You said the Caylee's real brush didn't cross her mind/ I said it did.

If you could just respond to what I posted and not drag in a bunch of stuff that I have not been involved in that would just be super! Thanks.

My only comment is----if my grandchild were missing and I believed she was alive, I would do any and everything LE asked me to do to help find her. If that meant walking all the way to another room to get the right hair brush with only Caylees hair, well I think in the interest of finding my grandchild I could walk that far.

[NYGalPal]

According to their website they are still seeking donations.:confused:
http://helpfindcaylee.usualbeings.com/help.html

And people wonder why we have no sympathy for them.

Wow, that is just sick. "all funds go directly to finding Caylee"? Earth to As??

[ConchGirl]

Exactly BANJO GRANNY.. That way they can still ask for donations...JMHO

IIRC everytime some news broke from LE there was a new sighting.

[SavannahStar]

I can only assume this is to stir the pot, as this is actually a projection regarding your own feelings toward the gp's. Can we all stop speaking for the dead? She's in a place, imo, where perfection on the part of her loved ones is no longer required. So, please, give it a rest. How this became a place of us vs them when I believe we all came here for justice for Caylee is beyond me. I support the Anthony's and feel sorry for them, others have turned their anger solely on them and wish them to be punished....why do we feel the need to beat that drum in every post? Don't we get what one another believes already? And yes, I'm preaching again. Sue me. :scared:


:thumbsup: (bolding mine)

Love that post.

[Mairi II]

I can only assume this is to stir the pot, as this is actually a projection regarding your own feelings toward the gp's. Can we all stop speaking for the dead? She's in a place, imo, where perfection on the part of her loved ones is no longer required. So, please, give it a rest. How this became a place of us vs them when I believe we all came here for justice for Caylee is beyond me. I support the Anthony's and feel sorry for them, others have turned their anger solely on them and wish them to be punished....why do we feel the need to beat that drum in every post? Don't we get what one another believes already? And yes, I'm preaching again. Sue me. :scared:

Oh, I get it. It's okay for the people who YOU agree with to "speak for the dead" or "think for the dead" but others can't, right? Stirring the pot? I responded to someone's else's projection regarding their own feelings toward the gp's. :rolleyes:

[shelbar53]

I agree totally that Caylee loved her mother and her grandparents with all her little heart.......that's why it's so hard for me to imagine cindy being supportive of casey when casey DUCT TAPED Caylee's mouth because she was probably screaming for cici.....i just don't understand cici and jojo being so supportive of their granddaughter's murderer.....

I dont understand why they are being so $upportive also.

[KatieKates]

What many people feel about the As and their involvement and lack of assistance in putting an end to this madness a long time ago is germane to discussing justice for Caylee. You have sympathy for them so in your mind, justice for Caylee doesn't include them being held accountable for their lies and coverups to LE. To me, it does. So in the end, we are all still discussing justice for Caylee, just that my idea of what that entails is different from yours. I don't think its wrong for any of us to state what we feel about the players in this case (unless it goes against TOS).

JMO

Doesn't it bore you to keep that thought process when LE hasn't brought charges against them? I know a lot of people feel they withheld evidence, but if they had in fact done so, they'd be charged and so far, nothing. So really, you're looking at things with one perspective and it has not legal merit, so much as an emotional basis... Casey killed her daughter. That's a fact, not based on feeling, but on evidence, minus gossip and half truths. Isn't it enough to demand that the person who delivered the manner in which caused death should be held accountable. It's fun to listen to gossip, but it's just gossip until investigated and followed through on the part of LE. Until then, I wouldn't get so worked up over it. All our lives under a microscope can appear suspect, under any condition. JMO.

[AJandTam]

Cindy seems too controlling to not know everything. That is why I think she knows plenty.

Agreed Dell. She knows plenty and imho, has proven it. You don't lie and cover up for something you think never happened in the first place right?

Carry on now. I am just quietly lurking. Waiting to see what happens next...

[SavannahStar]

I still want to know if JB has the rights to her remains...I have not received an answer back from KB yet..I emailed her and asked her if she knew.....
If Casey has signed over the remains to JB, then the A's can't do a funeral...Am I right?:confused:

IMO, that is right. That's how I took it. But the A's are the one being blamed for "not putting her to rest."

[~jomomma~]

Yeah on Geraldo.

dang....

i guess later on tonight i'll have to try and read the posts here while it was going on. i couldn't stay up last night so i missed it all.

so, he couldn't show it the night before but could last night? :confused:

[happygert]

And if there is one hair on that brush that is Caylees, you cant prove obstruction, since Cindy provided what they asked for. Since they obtained the sample, they were going to have to analyze every hair on the brush no matter what. And also, you can differentiate much between their hair unless a root is present, so the brush was not detrimental in determining DNA, it was probably the toothbrush that ID'd Caylee in the end.

jmo

GMAFB!! Did you read about the HAIR in CASEY'S TRUNK? THEY WANTED HAIR when they asked for CAYLEE"S HAIRBRUSH... YES they can be charged with obstruction they CAN ALSO BE CHARGED WITH HINDERING........

[RockStarGirl]

This seems to be one of the best questions of the year.

Personally and sadly, I don't think so, Fallen. :(

Hi All!! Good Afternoon. Just jumping in here.

IMO Jesse Grund did and his family. :sad:

[BJames]

Thanks to Cury-us Coyote for originally posting this link. :)

Time frame of Caylee Anthony death released (http://www.14wfie.com/Global/story.asp?S=9654398&nav=menu54_2)

Of major interest from the link:

Dr. Byrd says the time frame of death information is helpful to the prosecution because either way it shows the child was dead prior to the date she was reported missing.

It certainly answers the questions whether the remains had been dumped after July 15th, which is when the child was actually reported missing.

Soooooo...even if anyone were still to believe that Casey talked to Caylee on the phone at noon the previous day on 'another phone'...that is shot to heck as the poor baby was already dead.
Yet...another Casey lie..for sure.

Just my opinion of course..

[KatieKates]

Oh, I get it. It's okay for the people who YOU agree with to "speak for the dead" or "think for the dead" but others can't, right? Stirring the pot? I responded to someone's else's projection regarding their own feelings toward the gp's. :rolleyes:

Yes, and we get your point. And no, I disagree with many here who have discussed why they disagreed with me, and didn't suggest that the child wants her gp's punished for leaving her in the woods? That's not disagreeing, imo, that's projecting.

JMO, FWIW

[ishkabibble]

Good morning, everyone!

Well, I watched the 12:00 edition of Geraldo last night. I saw the tape and all I can say is how do they know that is the exact spot that Caylee was found? That area looks the same everywhere so I don't think it would be possible to say definitively if that was the exact spot that Caylee was found. Geraldo kept saying and several times that it was the exact spot Caylee was found.:unsure: Then Conway had to chime in that if it was the spot where Caylee was, then her body was placed there later.:sneaky: We already have an idea from some of the reports that the reports from the entomologist and the botanist show that the body was there since June. It gave me the feeling that Geraldo and Conway were trying to muddy the waters to perhaps get some people (potential jurors?) to believe that Caylee was placed there later. If Conway was agreeing w/this then I have to wonder if the Anthony's do as well. That whole segment just didn't sit well w/me.:glare:

I wonder if LE uses GPS to show the exact location of where Caylee's remains were found, not to be gross but if they were scattered over a large area, I'd like to know just how much remained in the bag found by the MR. I know they lay out some sort of grid pattern to search, but do they detail each pieces location? Were Dominik Casey,Jim Hoover's cell phone GPS equipped? Can they track the exact location Casey and Hoover were with that info and compare it to the location the remains were found?

[marshmallow]

And if he did take photos - maybe he was trying to do so in order to cover his own butt - perhaps to show LE later how he found the bag or whatever he found exactly. Maybe he did it to prove that he did find something in case everyone ignored him again. Who knows.

Now if he takes those photos and sells them, the gloves are off and my respect for him will be completely gone.



just a quick comment... I didn't realize how often I take photos with my cell phone until I tried to think of the MR using his (possibly). Heck, I even got in big dooodoo at Barnes and Noble recently for using my cell phone to take a photo of a book cover. Silly yes but I took the pic without thinking as I do now whenever I'm out and about and have my cell phone nearby.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Channel 6 just said it was up to 20 Grand for 1 photo....

JMO

Thanks, just catching up. Noticed we both went for 'none of above' as the caller. Has the identity surfaced yet? TIA

[Snoopy50]

I wonder how much he was paid for the "licensing fee"....if this photo is important evidence....can he still sell it? I just want to understand why so many players in this case, feel it necessary to make money off this little girl whose life was cut short by the person who should have been her protector. IMO all of this money-making is sickening.

[destiny1]

Gertrude,


What exactly do you not understand about them obtaining hair from the hairbrush Cindy gave to LE when asked ? They got the hairbrush ,they got the hairs, what are you missing ? You can not be charged for obstructing justice when you have presented them with a brush that is known to contain hair from the person they wanted hair samples from , and when they got those hair samples.


Even if they got what they wanted from Cindy, they asked for CAYLEES PERSONAL items. Cindy PURPOSELY tried to confuse the situation.

[summer4meplz]

I see what you are saying, and it should be cut and dry,black and white, but 20 years ago, Casey was there little Caylee, and they loved and raised her and probably spoiled her, when can you turn off the love completely to someone who you birthed and nurtured? Dont you think they were in the ultimate tight spot? Had they just been so about Casey and only cared about her, we would never even know this child was missing, or existed.

jmo


I remember cindy saying she, george and lee would not have any trouble getting into heaven.....

without turning this into a religious discussion.......I think this is a very tight spot.....but it still doesn't mean you get a pass to do a lot of not only illegal but immoral actions....IMO

[Stella Rose]

>>SNIP<<
I think turning down money has got to be hard, especially when the economy is the way it is. I want to see the pictures though...

I agree that turning down a very large sum of money would be tough, but I hope he manages to do it for the sake of decency and respect for Caylee. As for wanting to see the photos... me - no. I accidentally say a photo of River Phoneix (deceased) in a rag while waiting in line at the grocery store. Never again do I want to see something like that. But to each their own.

[happygert]

OMG :( did ANYONE that came in contact with Caylee in her life or after death have ANY respect for her?

IMO her family did NOT! I can think of a few Jesse Grund and his family.

[shelbar53]

The A's wont get arrested for anything. They will make millions off their granddaughters murder by their daughter. My only hope is that the public treats them the same way they treated OJ. With lots of distain and not wanting to be around them or have anything to do with them. So the A's will have lots of money but no one to play with.

[Neffy]

JFY Neffy and there are more . Gal Pal in NY may see this though .Oh well I guess I can offer some charity work for her. I am a good citizen .



http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:bQ7OYxP5U0AJ:www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail%3FcontentId%3D8177599%26version%3D2%26local e%3DEN-US%26layoutCode%3DTSTY%26pageId%3D1.1.1+brad+conwa y+immunity+Anthony%27s+arrest&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us&client=firefox-a

I have no idea what your post means but as for the article:

Also according to Conway, he believes the defense may finish with the toddlers remains by the end of the week. Then he said the family can focus on laying the little girl to rest.

Thanks for pointing out Conway's other Faux Paux. That article was Nov 31. It's now Jan 12. I believe Baez is in charge of that no?

He was wrong about that also ay?

Those attorney's. Gotta love em!

[BJames]

If I were LE I wouldn't be charging nor arresting anyone right now either (besides Casey of course)..for a couple of reasons. First they have all the time in the world to charge them, and if anyone is charged they could claim the 5th at trial on the grounds that they may incriminate themselves.
And why would they?
Right now LE hasn't had to say a word...they are just watching it all shake out. People pointing fingers at each other, folks claiming the 'rights' to tapes and information..'rights' being turned over to a defense attorney...the Anthony's trying to figure where each should be...and Casey isn't talking to any of them.
Thus far anyone who has come within 20 feet of these folks have gotten seriously burned...if I'm LE..I'm just going to sit back and watch.

Just my opinion of course..

[nc1948]

The presumption that Caylee wants any of you to speak for her is wrong to begin with. Caylee loved her grandparents, and they loved her more than you could ever imagine. If Caylee could speak for herself, I believe she would be saying leave them alone, and crying over the treatment of them by heartless strangers.

imo


Okay, We cannot speak for Caylee because it is wrong, but you can. Got it.

[ConchGirl]

Please look at the current real site. !!!!! not a copy of the previous page.

http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/

Click on the Thank you link. :wink:

[marshmallow]

I dont understand why they are being so $upportive also.



I do. And as well they should be, this is their daughter. But supportive and lying to authorities are not the same thing. Supportive is standing by Casey, even if they believe her story and keep spreading it. Knowingly lying is not supporting, it is lying. Lying to the FBI/LE to mislead is plain and simple...wrrrrrrrrronggg.
I have no problem with them supporting Casey, I have no problem with them possibly believing her, I have a major problem with them lying to the authorities. Support - ok, lying - not ok.

[Katprint]

However that doesn't apply IF the attorney is aware of ongoing criminal activity by his clients. I don't know to what extent the privilege would be damaged, though. KATPRINT?!
The privilege still applies even if the attorney knows about ongoing/future criminal activity by his clients. For example, if I represent a woman on prostitution charges and I know that she has a crack/meth/heroin habit, that she supports herself and her habit through prostitution and that she is virtually certain to immediately resume criminal activity as soon as she is released from custody, that does not violate our attorney-client relationship.

Knowledge is different from behavior. What I cannot DO (action-wise) is to give advice about how to "get away with" ongoing/future criminal activity or otherwise make myself an accomplice to the criminal conduct by providing a location for the criminal conduct, false alibis, etc.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[trt]

Doesn't it bore you to keep that thought process when LE hasn't brought charges against them? I know a lot of people feel they withheld evidence, but if they had in fact done so, they'd be charged and so far, nothing. So really, you're looking at things with one perspective and it has not legal merit, so much as an emotional basis... Casey killed her daughter. That's a fact, not based on feeling, but on evidence, minus gossip and half truths. Isn't it enough to demand that the person who delivered the manner in which caused death should be held accountable. It's fun to listen to gossip, but it's just gossip until investigated and followed through on the part of LE. Until then, I wouldn't get so worked up over it. All our lives under a microscope can appear suspect, under any condition. JMO.


Again, we ALL(well many of us) knew Casey was guilty of murdering Caylee before LE brought her up on murder charges. She was no less innocent before the charges than she is now. It doesn't bore me to discuss this case, otherwise I wouldn't be here.

Before Casey was charged, all we had was what we felt based on the evidence to that point. This is no different. Casey is being held accountable. By LE as well as most people on this board. That some of us feel that the As should ALSO be held accountable for THEIR actions during this time does not negate Casey's responsibility at all.

I don't consider any aspect of this case fun, by any stretch of the imagination. It sickens me to no end that grandparents of such a precious baby would completely disregard her in order to protect their grown child. That's not amusing...at all.

JMO

[ishkabibble]

Soooooo...even if anyone were still to believe that Casey talked to Caylee on the phone at noon the previous day on 'another phone'...that is shot to heck as the poor baby was already dead.
Yet...another Casey lie..for sure.

Just my opinion of course..

The timeline shows after June 15 no one who SHOULD have seen Caylee ever saw her again. Not one of the people who have spent the first almost three years of her life (including her mother) saw or heard her voice, no grandparent, neighbor, friend of grandparent or mother, co worker of grandparent or mother, store clerk, NO ONE saw or heard her. That speaks volumes.

[Pat]

The presumption that Caylee wants any of you to speak for her is wrong to begin with. Caylee loved her grandparents, and they loved her more than you could ever imagine. If Caylee could speak for herself, I believe she would be saying leave them alone, and crying over the treatment of them by heartless strangers.

imo

Last time I was here it was still CTV. Wasn't sent to band camp...just forgot my user name and password, due to the passage of time. :tonguewag:

Looks like absolutely nothing has changed.

So that I'm still on topic, Pro, isn't it presumptive of YOU to assume the Anthonys loved Caylee more than 'we' can ever imagine? And that she would tell us to leave them alone and cry over the treatment of them by heartless strangers?

Every single time we have a case like this, we hear this mantra when some, who participate simply to stir the pot, try to defend the indefensible.

But, hey...if it makes you happy and fills your day, carry on.

And...can anyone tell me what happened to the old iggy button?

TIA

[dgfred]

I do. And as well they should be, this is their daughter. But supportive and lying to authorities are not the same thing. Supportive is standing by Casey, even if they believe her story and keep spreading it. Knowingly lying is not supporting, it is lying. Lying to the FBI/LE to mislead is plain and simple...wrrrrrrrrronggg.
I have no problem with them supporting Casey, I have no problem with them possibly believing her, I have a major problem with them lying to the authorities. Support - ok, lying - not ok.

Exactly right marsh! :thumbsup:

[happygert]

Oh, interesting. I hope we find out the reason why sometime today.

Stated in court on Thursday that The DA couldn't be there..So they were suppose to do it while in court on thursday...:shrug: Im sure there may be another hearing tho concerning TES.. Nejames against baez.. Tim was suppose to be in FL yesterday...fighting giving the records of TES to beaz

[101Spots]

Please look at the current real site. !!!!! not a copy of the previous page.

http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/

CLick on the "Thank you" tab to get the previously noted page. You're both talking about the same site.

[~layla~]

Even if they got what they wanted from Cindy, they asked for CAYLEES PERSONAL items. Cindy PURPOSELY tried to confuse the situation.



This.
Its blatant and obvious.

[KatieKates]

Again, we ALL(well many of us) knew Casey was guilty of murdering Caylee before LE brought her up on murder charges. She was no less innocent before the charges than she is now. It doesn't bore me to discuss this case, otherwise I wouldn't be here.

Before Casey was charged, all we had was what we felt based on the evidence to that point. This is no different. Casey is being held accountable. By LE as well as most people on this board. That some of us feel that the As should ALSO be held accountable for THEIR actions during this time does not negate Casey's responsibility at all.

I don't consider any aspect of this case fun, by any stretch of the imagination. It sickens me to no end that grandparents of such a precious baby would completely disregard her in order to protect their grown child. That's not amusing...at all.

JMO

I respect your opinion and the time you put into discussing this case. I'm waiting for trial so that Casey can be brought to justice, and praying that her family finds peace when this is all over.

[canada]

As if lying and covering up is not bad enough. Making up the fact that Caylees is alive to cover up for Casey? If it proves true....read this :

http://www.wftv.com/news/17489435/detail.html

The drag on the courts because of the Anthony case has pushed back some trials almost two months.

If I was waiting fro trial on a lawsuit....I would be very upset.

Also...Can you imagine the millions of dollars that cindy has cost the City of Orlando? Where does that money come from? The taxpayers!

It all runs downhill folks


Yep...following up on bogus leads and investigating every nutjob that calls in takes up a lot of time and money that is needed elsewhere. Trust me I know this first hand through my current employment.

I too think the A's knew Caylee was dead but continued their campaign of deflection (Caylee's alive) for the sole purpose of protecting their daughter. It appeared to me that the more the evidence pointed to Casey that the A's got more heated...even taking on Tim Miller (TES) and making wild accusations of other innocent people.

I think that when this goes to court some of the truth will come out. Do I ever think that the A's will have to "pay" for thier misdeeds? no. I do think they will have to pay in the way of being hated by society for the rest of their lives and having a daughter doing LWOP. I wish that at some time there will be a court order stating that they cannot profit from the death of Caylee

[happygert]

snipped

just for the fact, as mothers and grandmothers go, how can cindy "believing" that she has a "missing" granddaughter not go a few extra feet and get caylee's hairbrush, is despicable. For that fact alone i would hope never to run into cindy anthony. I for one, hope down the road, that she is arrested. And not just for the hairbrush.
Jmo, jo

ita!! ..........

[vonna]

GMAFB!! Did you read about the HAIR in CASEY'S TRUNK? THEY WANTED HAIR when they asked for CAYLEE"S HAIRBRUSH... YES they can be charged with obstruction they CAN ALSO BE CHARGED WITH HINDERING........

And they should be!!!!

[summer4meplz]

IMO, that is right. That's how I took it. But the A's are the one being blamed for "not putting her to rest."


iirc there was a news article recently that said cindy was making arrangements about flowers, music, etc......gosh, it's been over a month now......you would think SOMEONE would make funeral arrangements.....

I also seem to remember hearing that george and cindy went and sat next to the cardboard box over the holidays........kinda pathetic...you would think they would at least rather sit next to a small coffin knowing Caylee, (or what's left of her) is lying with her baby doll......

[shelbar53]

I do. And as well they should be, this is their daughter. But supportive and lying to authorities are not the same thing. Supportive is standing by Casey, even if they believe her story and keep spreading it. Knowingly lying is not supporting, it is lying. Lying to the FBI/LE to mislead is plain and simple...wrrrrrrrrronggg.
I have no problem with them supporting Casey, I have no problem with them possibly believing her, I have a major problem with them lying to the authorities. Support - ok, lying - not ok.

look at the spelling of $upportive, thats why I think they are being $upportive.....money money money. Thats my opinon of the A clan. Money in the form of donations to find caylee, money in the form of interviews, money in the form of photos, now money in the form of broadcasting the funeral. I have no respect for the A clan or people defending them.

[Dunlurken]

I have no problem with them supporting Casey, I have no problem with them possibly believing her, I have a major problem with them lying to the authorities. Support - ok, lying - not ok.


snipping to address.

They did lie. JMO.

Is obfuscation a crime?

[daHawg]

Regarding the hairbrush. On the FBI lab report the hairbrush is listed as items listed as belonging to victim Caylee Marie Anthony it was a hairbrush and comb. Not Caylee and Casey. IMO that means that it was presented as only Caylees hair brush and not told that is was used by both Casey and Caylee. I see it as LE asking Cindy for Caylee's hairbrush and Cindy going into Casey's room and not saying anything to LE about it. End of story. LE then when making the comparison to the hair in the trunk sees similarities in the hairs but concludes the hairbrush sample is "not a suitable "known" sample to Caylee.


Also they had gotten a known sample of Casey's hair so they didn't need anything that had her hair in it.


http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/10/24/forensicreport10.23.08.pdf

[ConchGirl]

I respect your opinion and the time you put into discussing this case. I'm waiting for trial so that Casey can be brought to justice, and praying that her family finds peace when this is all over.

No conscience equals peace. Conscience equals torment. jmo

[destiny1]

This.
Its blatant and obvious.

and not complying and not working to cooperate within the law, not to mention the spirit of the law by ATTEMPTING to throw off the FBI is OBSTRUCTION.

[Stella Rose]

The anthonys are so good at deception they even duped posters on this board and other message boards. Thank god i wasnt duped. Smarter then the average bear i guess. LOL

OT/ While they may have, I think some people just like to be contrary. I'm just skipping along - trying not to get sent to the corner!

[Pooh]

The timeline shows after June 15 no one who SHOULD have seen Caylee ever saw her again. Not one of the people who have spent the first almost three years of her life (including her mother) saw or heard her voice, no grandparent, neighbor, friend of grandparent or mother, co worker of grandparent or mother, store clerk, NO ONE saw or heard her. That speaks volumes.

That says a lot, ish. And I bet LE knows that Casey purchased NOTHING for Caylee after 6/15/08. Those two Target trips spoke volumes to me.

[summer4meplz]

I have no idea what your post means but as for the article:

Also according to Conway, he believes the defense may finish with the toddlers remains by the end of the week. Then he said the family can focus on laying the little girl to rest.

Thanks for pointing out Conway's other Faux Paux. That article was Nov 31. It's now Jan 12. I believe Baez is in charge of that no?

He was wrong about that also ay?

Those attorney's. Gotta love em!

November 31?

[trt]

Have you missed the interviews where a bunch of Lawyers say this is standard? And Conway said, HE is asking for them, Greta had a great piece up not to long ago that was informative, if you have not chosen to cherry pick what you read.

jmo

Standard for whom? I don't remember Mark Klaas asking for immunity before giving a polygraph or any other information to LE that they required to help solve the case of his missing child? JMO

[Adonna]

IIRC the neighbors hear a heated argument at the A's home on about June 15. The A's have to have know Casey is upset with her mom, so why didn't G&C A have police put out an APB (all points bulletin) for a welfare check for Caylee? Oh, that's right Casey and Caylee were off bonding for a few weeks! Right! As if anyone believes that story!

Another thing. When Caylee first went missing and G&C were in the media soptlight in there own yard I just didn't see any anguish on thier faces about Caylee being gone with Casey knowing the circumstances that made Casey flee with Caylee. No real concern as to their destination and the fact that Casey took none of Caylee's clothes or toys. There was no information on the nanny to get in touch with in any type of emergency and Cindy being a nurse at the time should have know to have such information. Where was the CONCERN for their grand-daughter back then? I didn't see a distraught look of concern on their faces from the beginning for missing Caylee! Just lies about Casey being a wonderful mother and lies about an unknown nanny.

Why no APB? IMHO they had an arguement on June 15th with something to hide themselves. To this day they have something to hide that they are affraid will eventually come out IMOO. I hope it does come out and they are not allowed immunity. Why should they be above the law with all the lies they told publicly and of their own volition! They make me just cry for little Caylee and what she must have went through.

[KatieKates]

No conscience equals peace. Conscience equals torment. jmo

LOL, I respectfully disagree, but ok...

[Dunlurken]

In case anyone new here is wondering why Cindy & George might be seeking full immunity...

During George's July 24th law enforcement interview... George relating a conversation he & Cindy had:

I said, technically sweetie they can come after you, they can come after us because we're withholding information.

George then recalls that Cindy said George I'm gonna do my own investigation.

George then tells Cindy we're gonna have to get an attorney pretty soon if you keep screwing things... You got to back up.

Taped Transcript Of George Anthony Interview ~ July 24th ~ Pages 63 & 64 (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20july24.pdf)

The criminal defense attorney representing Cindy & George said he plans to meet with the lead prosecutor and detectives to ask for full immunity for the Anthonys.

Anthonys: "We Pray These Remains Are Not Caylee" (http://www.wftv.com/news/18282120/detail.html)Thanks Landshark. I think we're all on the same page. The Anthony's will be charged eventually. JMO.

[happygert]

If the video showed last night belongs to the Anthony's why was Geraldo saying the night before Hoover wanted a King's Ransom for it? :confused:

exactly.....makes you wonder doesn't it?

[Cury-us Coyote]

Anthony Family: Former P.I. Trying To Sell Video Of Caylee Site
"By virtue of my representation, it is my videotape, not Mr. Hoover's, and our position is that he has taken this tape from us and tried to shop it and tried to profit from a tragedy that he has no right to be involved in," Brad Conway said.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18460620/detail.html

[SavannahStar]

IIRC the neighbors hear a heated argument at the A's home on about June 15. The A's have to have know Casey is upset with her mom, so why didn't G&C A have police put out an APB (all points bulletin) for a welfare check for Caylee? Oh, that's right Casey and Caylee were off bonding for a few weeks! Right! As if anyone believes that story!

Another thing. When Caylee first went missing and G&C were in the media soptlight in there own yard I just didn't see any anguish on thier faces about Caylee being gone with Casey knowing the circumstances that made Casey flee with Caylee. No real concern as to their destination and the fact that Casey took none of Caylee's clothes or toys. There was no information on the nanny to get in touch with in any type of emergency and Cindy being a nurse at the time should have know to have such information. Where was the CONCERN for their grand-daughter back then? I didn't see a distraught look of concern on their faces from the beginning for missing Caylee! Just lies about Casey being a wonderful mother and lies about an unknown nanny.

Why no APB? IMHO they had an arguement on June 15th with something to hide themselves. To this day they have something to hide that they are affraid will eventually come out IMOO. I hope it does come out and they are not allowed immunity. Why should they be above the law with all the lies they told publicly and of their own volition! They make me just cry for little Caylee and what she must have went through.

No APB because (even if the alleged argument is true), Casey was an adult with full and sole custody of her daughter. Nothing stopping her from leaving the house with Caylee. It's that simple.

[Loves2Read]

Please look at the current real site. !!!!! not a copy of the previous page.

http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/

When your there be sure to click on the "Thank you" tab toward the top of the page so that you can donate to them!

The old help find Caylee and donate money is still there.