Sunday morning jan11 part 1

[sunstar]

She made a big deal out of the hyphen. :biggrin:

Yes she sure did! :D And all the details of the various cell phone plans, relatives and whatnot!

[Dells]

it could very well be that george and cindy are completely cut out of everything....baez might be in total control of casey....

I think that this could be a very real possibility as well. I think the only one that Casey wants to deal with and the only one she trusts right now is Baez.

[CuriousJo]

ZENAIDA GONZALEZ - 119 Free Listings all in Florida . Casey told LE that ZG was from down south Miami ,had toes to Ft. Lauderdale and other south areas , there were lots to look at , but yes just one that signed a guest card at SAWGRASS , but hey does that mean casey was planning on killing Caylee since 2006 , because witnesses do state that CASEY mentioned Zanny - Zenaida as the baby sitter back in 2006 , Jesse Grunds father stated that ............so HOW did Casey know the DAY AFTER 6-16-2008 that she killed Caylee m that on 6-17-08 ZG was going to fill out a guest card at SAWGRASS ....anyone wanna go there?

And don't forget the Zenaida and Gonzales connection of the home owners(renters?) where the body was left.Casey totally lucked out in that regard.

I still think Zanny the Nanny was code for Caylee sedated with Xanax. Not sure where she was putting the sleeping child while she was out partying.......

[sammielizabe]

LE first clue. People that dont have jobs have no nanny.


Why then, didn't LE ask her...If you need a nanny because you work and you don't work here. Then where do you work???? That is the answer I would like to hear come out of her mouth. I think sometime LE didn't give her enough time to hang herself further, they just kept on talking.......It kinda makes me mad.

[~tj~]

This is going to sound horrible on my part, but


I hope that when Casey gets to state prison, There is at the very least ONE Zenaida Gonzales right there with her.

I'll drink to THAT!!!:beer:

Ok 1 question. When she gets to prison, will she be kept away from other prisoners like she is now??

[sunstar]

Well, this is what I'm wondering about: Caylee was reported missing mid July. The storm was mid August, and this area got flooded. No search before the storm?

Guess I've got something wrong. Just don't know what.

I'm a little surprised too because I have heard that the 'comfort zone' for many killers is within a 2 mi. radius of their home. If I were LE and knew the names of the residents of those two houses closest to where Caylee was found, I think I might become suspicious that Caylee wasn't far away. MOO

[nc1948]

Mallorys mother is the person listed as the trustee on the account isnt she? .... wouldnt she know how funds for a donated/non profit structure are allowed to be used?

The moment any of the A's took public donations, they commited fraud in my eyes. My reason for believing this is they knew Caylee was dead.

I think Mallory and her Mother are both trustees or officers on the CayleeMarieAnthony trust fund. I so agree with your last statement. I personally believe that George, Cindy and Lee all knew from day 31 if ot before that Caylee was dead. Really they even searched their own back yard. So I too believe and soliciting for seach money was a fraud. They SAID they wanted only to search for a live Caylee but they drove around a billboard with a non working phone number. Sorry, no one can convince me they did not know that number was not working.

[CuriousJo]

fscinating! Where did you get this? I would love to get into it.

But, less than 5 in Orlando.

[SBT123]

fscinating! Where did you get this? I would love to get into it.

http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=ZENAIDA%20GONZALEZ&state=FL&ref=&se=&doby=&city=&name_style=1&tm=&tmr=


Hope its okay to post link ,please move if not.

[playnice]

And don't forget the Zenaida and Gonzales connection of the home owners(renters?) where the body was left.Casey totally lucked out in that regard.

I still think Zanny the Nanny was code for Caylee sedated with Xanax. Not sure where she was putting the sleeping child while she was out partying.......

We know she texted AD about Zanax and AD statement to LE has not been released in doc dumps. We also know AD lived at SG aptments and we dont know if AD told LE if Casey visited her the day ZG filled out that card.
AD holds alot of info. For some reason her statements are being held back.

[sammielizabe]

And don't forget the Zenaida and Gonzales connection of the home owners(renters?) where the body was left.Casey totally lucked out in that regard.

I still think Zanny the Nanny was code for Caylee sedated with Xanax. Not sure where she was putting the sleeping child while she was out partying.......

but waaay too coincidental that A Zanny went to Sawgrass after Caylee's demise.. so weird

[SBT123]

But, less than 5 in Orlando.


But even though we know Casey has more stories then Dr, Seuss , she did say she was from Miami and FT. Lauderdale and other areas down south even New York .

[Dells]

Casey probably laughed her ### off at the whole world when she made the statement "I feel shes CLOSE. I feel it in my gut."

Everyone is looking for her child and she sits back thinking, you idiots I TOLD you she was CLOSE!!!!

IMO the feeling she got in her "gut" when she thought about where Caylee was, FEAR they would find her. If that happened, she might have to stay in jail forever (as she alluded to someone during one of her cell calls) and eat that horrible cole slaw!!!! :eyeroll:

Odious Creature just about covers it, Mark.


abbie

Yes, I am sure she knew her gig would be up once they found the body. Thus, that is why she had the panic attack when told about the MR finding remains of a child in the place that she dumped Caylee's body.

[nothingnew]

Baez Plans To Fight Casey Case Gag Order
Padilla said he's planning an exhaustive new search of the bottom of the river in hopes of finding Caylee's remains.
...
I have some money now -- in the neighborhood of $50,000 pledged."
...
That's why Padilla said he wants search teams to use sifting screens. He said he's confident he can raise $200,000 and be back by early January.
http://www.wesh.com/news/18045461/detail.html

"He's confident he can raise $200,000"-how does that compute to "begging for money"? They must have clipped the address to send payments to as well? Nope, I never saw Lenny ask for cash or offer to sell souvenir shirts so he must be really bad at this "begging" business.:wink:

[playnice]

But even though we know Casey has more stories then Dr, Seuss , she did say she was from Miami and FT. Lauderdale and other areas down south even New York .

SBT do you rememberr the date of the google search for ZG?

[Dells]

I agree. ZFG is not a victim either . If ZFG ,the 37 year old with 6 kids when Casey said she was 24 and had NO KIDS is a victim then so are all the other ZFG of any age range and since they are all Hispanic there you have it a class action suit........


The victims are the Anthony's LA-GA-CA and CAYLEE . MO

I think anybody that Casey or the Anthony's pointed to during questioning are also victims. What about Amy and Jesse? Casey left a lot of victims in her wake.:thumbdown:

[nc1948]

The prosecution can't ask for financial records of anyone except those pertaining to the accused, whatever the A's or Baez have or haven't made will not be considered in the trial.

JMO

Can they not question any proceeds made off the selling of the victims name or image? Especially is the defense profited from it?

[destiny1]

I'll drink to THAT!!!:beer:

Ok 1 question. When she gets to prison, will she be kept away from other prisoners like she is now??


I doubt that she would be forever. florida, like Texas does not coddle their prisoners.

There would have to be a compelling reason to keep her permanently out of General Population.

[SBT123]

Why then, didn't LE ask her...If you need a nanny because you work and you don't work here. Then where do you work???? That is the answer I would like to hear come out of her mouth. I think sometime LE didn't give her enough time to hang herself further, they just kept on talking.......It kinda makes me mad.

absolutely

[ConchGirl]

Yes, casey anthony is the one who murdered Caylee, but imo cynthia and george contributed to the circumstances that led to that murder.

Cynthia sure laid down the law when she found Jesse Grund in bed with Casey, and they were only watching TV apparently. Remember "my house, my rules?"

Too bad she wasn't as strict when she was paying for all of Caylee's care, casey anthony's cell phone, car insurances etc. It's called enabling and both parents indulged in it to produce this monster, imo.

I always found that odd. Casey had already given birth to Caylee so obviously she was not a virgin and she was engaged to Jesse. Amazing what seems to bother Cindy. Lying and stealing is okay?

[Pruddennce]

There isnt a shortage of them is there? I really dont care if she wins her case or not but common sense tells me Casey saw her application at ZG aptments and saw her drive that car and used her name changing details. There was no other ZF at SG aptments. Casey had friends living there.

I agree. getting lost in all of this is the fact that Casey identified "THE APT", as the same one that ZFG looked at.

Casey connected this ZFG, not by description, obviously, but thru her association with that particular vacant apt. for me, it continually perks my imagination as to how she found out her name.

shouldnt all of the Juliet Lewis' (including the film actress) be coming foward and claiming defamation? or how about all of the Jeff Hopkins' particularly the one she claimed had a child Zack that she was 'building a life with' and was going to be moving in with when she returned to Orlando?

Jeff IS a real person, he DID exist as having known Casey. what has happened with him, connecting him to this web of lies, is equally damaging. however, I havent seen him file a law suit against her.

which is what I find ridiculous as far as ZFG, who didnt sign ZFG on her statement. who Casey clearly said HYPHEN every chance she got.

its all utterly ridiculous.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[sammielizabe]

I think anybody that Casey or the Anthony's pointed to during questioning are also victims. What about Amy and Jesse? Casey left a lot of victims in her wake.:thumbdown:

true, she is an equal opportunity destroyer. Evil.

[happygert]

fscinating! Where did you get this? I would love to get into it.

yes notice it was just ZG no ZFG.....wonder why.....maybe because there not 119 lol....... scroll and roll my dear destiny......

[nc1948]

Regina, I believe Casey would've just stolen the car if her parents took it away. She's a thief.

Wasn't the battery removed after they recovered it so she would not take it again. Gosh, I am not sure. Have heard so much in this case that I do not know what I remember as fact, fiction or I just dreamed it up. No link.

[Neffy]

Well, this is what I'm wondering about: Caylee was reported missing mid July. The storm was mid August, and this area got flooded. No search before the storm?

Guess I've got something wrong. Just don't know what.

They were going by cell phone pings. Extensive searches Blanchard Park, Airport area. They underestimated Caylee being so close to home. By the time they were making it to that area storm hit. IMO

[SBT123]

I agree. getting lost in all of this is the fact that Casey identified "THE APT", as the same one that ZFG looked at.

Casey connected this ZFG, not by description, obviously, but thru her association with that particular vacant apt. for me, it continually perks my imagination as to how she found out her name.

shouldnt all of the Juliet Lewis' (including the film actress) be coming foward and claiming defamation? or how about all of the Jeff Hopkins' particularly the one she claimed had a child Zack that she was 'building a life with' and was going to be moving in with when she returned to Orlando?

Jeff IS a real person, he DID exist as having known Casey. what has happened with him, connecting him to this web of lies, is equally damaging. however, I havent seen him file a law suit against her.

which is what I find ridiculous as far as ZFG, who didnt sign ZFG on her statement. who Casey clearly said HYPHEN every chance she got.

its all utterly ridiculous.

IMO

best regards,
Pru


Absolutely true and brilliant. Hope your in the jury pool on the defamtion trial.

[~tj~]

I doubt that she would be forever. florida, like Texas does not coddle their prisoners.

There would have to be a compelling reason to keep her permanently out of General Population.

Well I sure hope they put her in the 'population'. hammer

Thanks for answering.

[happygert]

I'll drink to THAT!!!:beer:

Ok 1 question. When she gets to prison, will she be kept away from other prisoners like she is now??

in one word NO

[SBT123]

yes notice it was just ZG no ZFG.....wonder why.....maybe because there not 119 lol....... scroll and roll my dear destiny......

Gertrude,


The search engine used gets its entrys by buying information from finance co's that sell that info to these agencys' When people apply for credit ,new credit and other they do not always use their full names , that is IF Z F G even goes by and uses the hyphened FERNANDEZ portion .


Context means everything , many variables to decipher. and as stated ZG signed her name ZG not using the FernandeZ portion , so what does that matter then To the ZG who filed suit ? It means its baseless even more!

[SavannahStar]

You make no sense. The prosecution will though when they get Casey into court. They'll prove murder on her. The jury will return with a guilty verdict I believe.

There are those who don't want to go there and will be hollering for years to come how innocent they believe Casey to be. Nothing new under the sun.

Adalena, I don't think that poster is stating or even implying he/she thinks Casey is innocent. Most of his/her posts are critical of the ZG lawsuit, nothing more.

I think his/her last post was great! I, too, don't think ZG stands a chance in court, nor should she. IMO.

[nana6]

I doubt that she would be forever. florida, like Texas does not coddle their prisoners.

There would have to be a compelling reason to keep her permanently out of General Population.

Well, I have an idea. How about death row!!! Now Texas has a saying. Don't mess with Texas/ And it always amazes me how many criminals get caught there and then whine when they are convicted.

[SBT123]

Anyone who wants to can file suit, that's a given. However this particular woman claims she lost her job and her home due to Casey Anthony's lies in this nationally publicized baby murder case wherein Casey fingered her as the guilty party.

I don't wonder why she's suing.



Do you wonder why others aren't suing, as the post you were responding to addressed ? Others who would have more justifiable reason to SUE then ZG ?

[ConchGirl]

Your post is the first I heard about any battery. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, just that I've never heard it before. This case has so much info it's pretty hard to keep track of it all.

A thief like Casey, the sky's the limit. I don't think any disabled car or anything but the cell she now sits in would stop her from anything she deicded to do.

The battery thing is true. It's in one of Cindy's LE interviews. She said they removed the battery so someone wouldn't take it. LE asked her who would take it and she said you never know. (paraphrasing)

[OneUp]

I agree. getting lost in all of this is the fact that Casey identified "THE APT", as the same one that ZFG looked at.

Casey connected this ZFG, not by description, obviously, but thru her association with that particular vacant apt. for me, it continually perks my imagination as to how she found out her name.

shouldnt all of the Juliet Lewis' (including the film actress) be coming foward and claiming defamation? or how about all of the Jeff Hopkins' particularly the one she claimed had a child Zack that she was 'building a life with' and was going to be moving in with when she returned to Orlando?

Jeff IS a real person, he DID exist as having known Casey. what has happened with him, connecting him to this web of lies, is equally damaging. however, I havent seen him file a law suit against her.

which is what I find ridiculous as far as ZFG, who didnt sign ZFG on her statement. who Casey clearly said HYPHEN every chance she got.

its all utterly ridiculous.

IMO

best regards,
PruPru, in general I am in agreement with your post...but neither "Juliet" nor "Jeff" were accused of kidnapping. Just the mythical "nanny", and later her "sister Samantha".
Doesn't the defamation have to do with the kidnapping allegations?...not just the mere mention of the name in her lies?
Again, I have mixed feelings about this suit...and I don't think there will be a dime to be found even if it were won...I smell lawyers busy making publicity to be honest. But I am fairly certain that the "defamation" portion of the suit refers directly to the accusation of kidnapping...and to the repeated mentions by family and Casey's attorney after her initial claim to LE.
Regardless of the "frivolity (or not) of this suit, I don't think ANYONE has any right to post nasty rumors about this woman. If it must be discussed, I would HOPE most people here have enough integrity to rely on facts when possible, and speculate just about the things related to the suit...not her "babies daddies" ( are there any links to there being more than one?).
I haven't seen you personally supporting the rumors and snide side comments about her...but I have seen pplenty of it whenever this subject comes up.
JMO.

[Dells]

I agree but I think they signed up for publicity purposes (imo), so they are getting their "moneys worth".

Exactly. The only reason they decided to take on Casey's case was for the publicity. There is no way possible that they can believe that she is not guilty. The same goes for Baez. He does not want a gag order because he wants the publicity as well.

[nc1948]

The battery thing is true. It's in one of Cindy's LE interviews. She said they removed the battery so someone wouldn't take it. LE asked her who would take it and she said you never know. (paraphrasing)


Bless you Conch, I thought I had read or heard that , but couldn't prove it. Yes, they knew good and well what kind of person Casey was. She stole from her brother, mother and Grandmother. But Mommy dearest covered for her and paid Grandmother back. They have lied and tried to distract LE, but finally Casey will be held accountable for something she did. It is so sad it escalated into murder of her child.

[Neffy]

The battery thing is true. It's in one of Cindy's LE interviews. She said they removed the battery so someone wouldn't take it. LE asked her who would take it and she said you never know. (paraphrasing)

Yea that was a wierd thing to do IMO.

[nana6]

Bless you Conch, I thought I had read or heard that , but couldn't prove it. Yes, they knew good and well what kind of person Casey was. She stole from her brother, mother and Grandmother. But Mommy dearest covered for her and paid Grandmother back. They have lied and tried to distract LE, but finally Casey will be held accountable for something she did. It is so sad it escalated into murder of her child.

I gotta tell ya NC . I think G and C should be thankful they are still walking this earth. C led Amy to believe they would be moving into C's home very soon. That gives me the shivers.

[OneUp]

Yea that was a wierd thing to do IMO.
IDK...given that Casey was in residence, I think it was the SMART thing to do!
JMO.

[Pruddennce]

Wasn't the battery removed after they recovered it so she would not take it again. Gosh, I am not sure. Have heard so much in this case that I do not know what I remember as fact, fiction or I just dreamed it up. No link.

yes......page 22

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf

"yes and we parked it in the garage, opened everything up, took the battery out of it just in case someone came home to try to get the car we took the battery out of it. never know," Cindy Anthony said."

also I note: Cindy claims she went and did the car thing with George, went to the bank to get the impound money, then claimed she went back to work (she said she got home between 5:30 and 6pm).


best regards,
Pru

[rj1212]

Do you wonder why others aren't suing, as the post you were responding to addressed ? Others who would have more justifiable reason to SUE then ZG ?

Zenaida was mentioned as the KIDNAPPER...that's kinda serious...ya think?

[SBT123]

Pru, in general I am in agreement with your post...but neither "Juliet" nor "Jeff" were accused of kidnapping. Just the mythical "nanny", and later her "sister Samantha".
Doesn't the defamation have to do with the kidnapping allegations?...not just the mere mention of the name in her lies?
Again, I have mixed feelings about this suit...and I don't think there will be a dime to be found even if it were won...I smell lawyers busy making publicity to be honest. But I am fairly certain that the "defamation" portion of the suit refers directly to the accusation of kidnapping...and to the repeated mentions by family and Casey's attorney after her initial claim to LE.
Regardless of the "frivolity (or not) of this suit, I don't think ANYONE has any right to post nasty rumors about this woman. If it must be discussed, I would HOPE most people here have enough integrity to rely on facts when possible, and speculate just about the things related to the suit...not her "babies daddies" ( are there any links to there being more than one?).
I haven't seen you personally supporting the rumors and snide side comments about her...but I have seen pplenty of it whenever this subject comes up.
JMO.


Go to the county clerk of Orange county Fl friend. Look her UP and see the family courts section ,you have to actually order full records ,but its there if your interested .


Rumors though , as in her having 6 kids and not having a place to live and on the go from one hotel to the next , before THIS case ever entered our minds ..............come on , thats not rumor . Now what is hear say is someone else pointing out that she drove a hummer , and I stated it as hear say ! Look her up .I have not put anything out that is not on public record at the Orange county Clerk , you can ascertain from those records the babys daddy posts!

[nc1948]

I gotta tell ya NC . I think G and C should be thankful they are still walking this earth. C led Amy to believe they would be moving into C's home very soon. That gives me the shivers.

She would not have come back to my house when she was out on bond. No way-no how.

[sunstar]

Pru, in general I am in agreement with your post...but neither "Juliet" nor "Jeff" were accused of kidnapping. Just the mythical "nanny", and later her "sister Samantha".
Doesn't the defamation have to do with the kidnapping allegations?...not just the mere mention of the name in her lies?
(respectfully snipped)
JMO.

I'm just curious, but couldn't Jesse also file a suit against Cindy for the same reasons? :shrug:

[SavannahStar]

Zenaida was mentioned as the KIDNAPPER...that's kinda serious...ya think?


But not THAT Zenaida.

I guess we could keep going in circles about this though. :wink:

[SavannahStar]

I'm just curious, but couldn't Jesse also file a suit against Cindy for the same reasons? :shrug:

He's got a lot more class than that, IMO.

[SBT123]

Zenaida was mentioned as the KIDNAPPER...that's kinda serious...ya think?

IF there WAS a BABY SITTER ....but there was not and every one knows that and this was cleared early ON . LE tells her so early on ,they told her she lied on every single count ! And that they knew this cause they checked each detail out .

So NO , ZG was cleared early on and by a hundred other things ,most especially by CASEY saying that is not the Z F G she spoke of and the one suing does not go by ZFG , but ZG ...Get it ?

[SBT123]

He's got a lot more class than that, IMO.

LOL, are you saying ZG is not a class act ? Teasing ,I know you are not , we can all see what a class act she is ~

[Pruddennce]

Pru, in general I am in agreement with your post...but neither "Juliet" nor "Jeff" were accused of kidnapping. Just the mythical "nanny", and later her "sister Samantha".
Doesn't the defamation have to do with the kidnapping allegations?...not just the mere mention of the name in her lies?
Again, I have mixed feelings about this suit...and I don't think there will be a dime to be found even if it were won...I smell lawyers busy making publicity to be honest. But I am fairly certain that the "defamation" portion of the suit refers directly to the accusation of kidnapping...and to the repeated mentions by family and Casey's attorney after her initial claim to LE.
Regardless of the "frivolity (or not) of this suit, I don't think ANYONE has any right to post nasty rumors about this woman. If it must be discussed, I would HOPE most people here have enough integrity to rely on facts when possible, and speculate just about the things related to the suit...not her "babies daddies" ( are there any links to there being more than one?).
I haven't seen you personally supporting the rumors and snide side comments about her...but I have seen pplenty of it whenever this subject comes up.
JMO.

thanks Oneup for your comprehensive post. yes, you are correct, it is primarily the kidnapping aspect which she claims sullied her reputation; however, its a stretch IMO, which it would be in connection with ANYONE Casey lied about....for instance Jeff H, Juliet Lewis.

also, Cindy accused Amy AND Ricardo of kidnapping during her LE interviews AND publically.

I dont know anything about the ZFG or her lifestyle, only that she chose to reveal her identity and connection to Sawgrass, publically. despite the fact that Casey A did not identify her out of a photo lineup.

Casey A USED her name, not her likeness, nor any physical description matching this ZFG.

this case, its all so ugly, isnt it?

IMO

best regarrds,
Pru

[destiny1]

LOL, are you saying ZG is not a class act ? Teasing ,I know you are not , we can all see what a class act she is ~

I dfont give a *** what zenaida gonzales or any of her other namesakes are.

CASEY is the one that uttered her name in a lying spasm/episode/fit or whatever it is politically correct to call it at this particular time.

[rj1212]

Go to the county clerk of Orange county Fl friend. Look her UP and see the family courts section ,you have to actually order full records ,but its there if your interested .


Rumors though , as in her having 6 kids and not having a place to live and on the go from one hotel to the next , before THIS case ever entered our minds ..............come on , thats not rumor . Now what is hear say is someone else pointing out that she drove a hummer , and I stated it as hear say ! Look her up .I have not put anything out that is not on public record at the Orange county Clerk , you can ascertain from those records the babys daddy posts!

Having 6 kids, living in a hotel, and driving a hummer does what to prove reasonable doubt for Casey? What is your point? That Casey was somehow telling the truth FGS???

There is no ZFG that took care of Caylee. Casey had no freakin' job...and NOBODY knows of this Zenaida that Casey is really speaking of...NOBODY.

End of story. After that, who cares about this Zenaida with a lawsuit against Casey...at least concerning the murder case that is?

The question is this...will there be justice for Caylee Marie Anthony??

[SBT123]

She would not have come back to my house when she was out on bond. No way-no how.

I'd have taken her in to my home , would love to have questioned her ,I'd have let her talk for days and never interrupt her too ! I could have learned a LOT by letting her just ramble on and on and on ~

[OneUp]

thanks Oneup for your comprehensive post. yes, you are correct, it is primarily the kidnapping aspect which she claims sullied her reputation; however, its a stretch IMO, which it would be in connection with ANYONE Casey lied about....for instance Jeff H, Juliet Lewis.

also, Cindy accused Amy AND Ricardo of kidnapping during her LE interviews AND publically.

I dont know anything about the ZFG or her lifestyle, only that she chose to reveal her identity and connection to Sawgrass, publically. despite the fact that Casey A did not identify her out of a photo lineup.

Casey A USED her name, not her likeness, nor any physical description matching this ZFG.

this case, its all so ugly, isnt it?

IMO

best regarrds,
Pru
Yes, in every aspect it is ugly...and it seems to keep drawing out unsavory types who revel in the ugliest and most cruel parts of it all.
I'll be glad when the trial begins and some of the speculations get settled once and for all.
JMO.

[5boxersmom]

yes......page 22

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf

"yes and we parked it in the garage, opened everything up, took the battery out of it just in case someone came home to try to get the car we took the battery out of it. never know," Cindy Anthony said."

also I note: Cindy claims she went and did the car thing with George, went to the bank to get the impound money, then claimed she went back to work (she said she got home between 5:30 and 6pm).


best regards,
Pru

That's is interesting. I never caught that before. I thought Cindy wasn't at work that day, but George went to work. hmmm. I do remember it being mentioned about an EZ pass around 5:30 that day and we all thought it was George.

jmo

[SavannahStar]

Having 6 kids, living in a hotel, and driving a hummer does what to prove reasonable doubt for Casey? What is your point? That Casey was somehow telling the truth FGS???

There is no ZFG that took care of Caylee. Casey had no freakin' job...and NOBODY knows of this Zenaida that Casey is really speaking of...NOBODY.

End of story. After that, who cares about this Zenaida with a lawsuit against Casey...at least concerning the murder case that is?

The question is this...will there be justice for Caylee Marie Anthony??

I don't get how anyone thinks that poster thinks Casey is innocent.

[sunstar]

He's got a lot more class than that, IMO.

Yes, obviously so! :)

[SavannahStar]

Yes, in every aspect it is ugly...and it seems to keep drawing out unsavory types who revel in the ugliest and most cruel parts of it all.
I'll be glad when the trial begins and some of the speculations get settled once and for all.
JMO.

Me too but as I posted tonight I have some serious doubts as to whether or not there will even be a trial.

[rj1212]

I guess I need to apologize folks...maybe I need to come back later, because I don't think demonizing the Zenaida who is filing a lawsuit against Casey Anthony is important, yet I have been discussing it for some odd reason. My bad. And I don't think faulting LE for not looking up every ZG in existence helps either, because the evidence NEVER pointed to a babysitter named Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez...period.

mo

[ConchGirl]

I just finished reading "The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout and I'm not so sure that Cindy may be one as well. Here's an excerpt:

When a sociopath identifies someone as a good game piece, she studies that person. She makes it her business to know how that person can me manipulated and used, and, to this end just how her chosen pawn can be flattered and charmed. In addition she knows how to promote a sense of familiarity or intimacy by claiming that she and her victim are similar in some way. Victims often recall statements like "You know, I think you and are are a lot alike." :w00t:

[nc1948]

Why would they want to, unless the prosecution uses a theory that this was pre-meditated based on the assumption that Casey wanted to have Baez and her parents profit off this. I don't think that will happen..

JMO

Was just wondering. Thanks for answer. You said the finances would not play a part in the trial ( i understand that) So because she has not been convicted, any monies received by her or her attorney for her daughters image would also not be considered. Can they also sell interviews with Casey or even write a book as long as proceeds are received prior to a conviction?

[rj1212]

I don't get how anyone thinks that poster thinks Casey is innocent.

Hmmm...I dunno...maybe it's the passionate energy to show that there was more than 6 Zenaida Gonzalez's in Orlando, etc...

What's the point that someone is trying to prove here???

That LE messed up??? That there possibly IS a nanny named ZFG who took care of Caylee, who kidnapped her??? :confused:

[ConchGirl]

Okay thanks for that. Well I'm only beginning on DVD #7 of Cindy's interview. But FBI tells Cindy and George seperately that their stories do not jibe with one another's.

That tells me they're still not coming clean even to the FBI.

I believe Cindy knows her dtr would steal the Pope's staff if it suited her and nothing would stop her. Lee's interview he tells LE that upon fetching Casey's purse and bringing it to Cindy she dumped contents out, went for the wallet, credit cards and stuffed the approx. $1,000.00 cash into her pockets. This after knowing Casey stole from the great-grandparents in the rest home and others. All in the doc dump sticky.

I noticed that George & Lee ask Casey if she borrowed something from someone. They never use the word "steal". Don't want to upset the odious creature. GMAB

[~layla~]

Yes, casey anthony is the one who murdered Caylee, but imo cynthia and george contributed to the circumstances that led to that murder.

Cynthia sure laid down the law when she found Jesse Grund in bed with Casey, and they were only watching TV apparently. Remember "my house, my rules?"

Too bad she wasn't as strict when she was paying for all of Caylee's care, casey anthony's cell phone, car insurances etc. It's called enabling and both parents indulged in it to produce this monster, imo.

Whoa! I get pissy with my own mother all the time. My kids are still breathing.

Once you reach 18, you alone are responsible for the actions you take. PERIOD. No matter the extenuating circumstance.
Casey did exactly what she wanted, and that was to hurt her mother and father for the way she was being treated. The power struggle had to be won.... Casey made sure.

[SBT123]

Okay thanks for that. Well I'm only beginning on DVD #7 of Cindy's interview. But FBI tells Cindy and George seperately that their stories do not jibe with one another's.

That tells me they're still not coming clean even to the FBI.

I believe Cindy knows her dtr would steal the Pope's staff if it suited her and nothing would stop her. Lee's interview he tells LE that upon fetching Casey's purse and bringing it to Cindy she dumped contents out, went for the wallet, credit cards and stuffed the approx. $1,000.00 cash into her pockets. This after knowing Casey stole from the great-grandparents in the rest home and others. All in the doc dump sticky.


Cindy took $1,000.00 from Casey ? that belonged to AMY ? , I thought there was like $220.00 or so in Casey's wallet ,where are you getting the $1.000.00 ?????????????

[joolz]

I'd have taken her in to my home , would love to have questioned her ,I'd have let her talk for days and never interrupt her too ! I could have learned a LOT by letting her just ramble on and on and on ~



Hmmm, didn't Lenny Padilla think the same thing?

[Dells]

Lee lawyer has said that Lee accidentially misusued some of the donations.

Wow, I hadn't heard that. How does one accidentally misuse funds? I wonder of that could be one of the pending charges that his lawyer is worried about?

[happygert]

I just finished reading "The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout and I'm not so sure that Cindy may be one as well. Here's an excerpt:

When a sociopath identifies someone as a good game piece, she studies that person. She makes it her business to know how that person can me manipulated and used, and, to this end just how her chosen pawn can be flattered and charmed. In addition she knows how to promote a sense of familiarity or intimacy by claiming that she and her victim are similar in some way. Victims often recall statements like "You know, I think you and are are a lot alike." :w00t:

Exactly! ........IMO just ALIKE... same personalities...cindy talks about herself, casey talks about herself...POOR CAYLEE

[jewel6]

Whoa! I get pissy with my own mother all the time. My kids are still breathing.

Once you reach 18, you alone are responsible for the actions you take. PERIOD. No matter the extenuating circumstance.
Casey did exactly what she wanted, and that was to hurt her mother and father for the way she was being treated. The power struggle had to be won.... Casey made sure.

Oh wow! ITA! I think that Caseys personality was beyond beleif even for her own family. Just because she did what she did doesnt make the parents guilty! JMO

[SBT123]

Hmmm...I dunno...maybe it's the passionate energy to show that there was more than 6 Zenaida Gonzalez's in Orlando, etc...

What's the point that someone is trying to prove here???

That LE messed up??? That there possibly IS a nanny named ZFG who took care of Caylee, who kidnapped her??? :confused:

If you read the evidence available to you like you judge a poster in what you THINK they believe because they are making debates that they think a defamation suit is a farce ,then I have to say your missing a LOT !



See its clear you take what you want out of posts ,rather then focus on the points and context being addressed.


Casey killed Caylee , it is more then obvious ~!

[i_pickle]

Exactly, but I find it interesting that Cindy referred to "Zenaida" as being Jesse Grund or Amy. Cindy better watch out...Yes, she did. And it's on video so she can't weasel out of it.

JMO

[SBT123]

Hmmm, didn't Lenny Padilla think the same thing?

Yes,I think he may have , but I'm not Lenny . They really could have saved a lot of time by wire tapping a friend ,letting her believe they believed her kidnapping story , wore tapped someone very close like AMY and if AMY was coached by them ,they could have cleared this up a long time ago ,Casey is not too smart ,that is obvious, amy could have coaxed it all out .

[rj1212]

If you read the evidence available to you like you judge a poster in what you THINK they believe because they are making debates that they think a defamation suit is a farce ,then I have to say your missing a LOT !



See its clear you take what you want out of posts ,rather then focus on the points and context being addressed.


Casey killed Caylee , it is more then obvious ~!

Okay then. Without trying to be so condescending, please try to tell us the point you're making...go to a website?

What's you're point besides trying to demean the Zenaida that lives in a hotel, drives a hummer, and has 6 kids, which you have continually repeated to posters...what's your point?

[~layla~]

I think Mallory and her Mother are both trustees or officers on the CayleeMarieAnthony trust fund. I so agree with your last statement. I personally believe that George, Cindy and Lee all knew from day 31 if ot before that Caylee was dead. Really they even searched their own back yard. So I too believe and soliciting for seach money was a fraud. They SAID they wanted only to search for a live Caylee but they drove around a billboard with a non working phone number. Sorry, no one can convince me they did not know that number was not working.

nc. Cindy knew when she was posting on her myspace trying to get casey to engage with her that something was horribly wrong. July 3rd if I remember right. her angel and all that talk.... was just blather to smoke Casey out.

[ConchGirl]

When did Casey get internet access? :wink: jk

[Calla]

Oh wow! ITA! I think that Caseys personality was beyond beleif even for her own family. Just because she did what she did doesnt make the parents guilty! JMO

I have to agree too

The parents made some mistakes. Everyone does. I don't think they should be blamed or face charges at all. If everyone who has lived with a murderer knew what they know in hindsight, there would not be nearly as many deaths.
There were some uncalled for things said in regards to people who came to help..including LE and Tim Miller, and Lenny Padilla IMO It was an emotional, time beyond my own comprehension.

In reality, Cindy was trying to protect something, but what was she trying to protect?
IMO she was protecting one thing ..her heart.

She was protecting her heart. :sad:

[SavannahStar]

Hmmm...I dunno...maybe it's the passionate energy to show that there was more than 6 Zenaida Gonzalez's in Orlando, etc...

What's the point that someone is trying to prove here???

That LE messed up??? That there possibly IS a nanny named ZFG who took care of Caylee, who kidnapped her??? :confused:


I think (I can be corrected if wrong) the point was only that ZG filed a frivolous lawsuit and should not be awarded a dime.

I didn't get that the poster was bashing LE or saying Casey wasn't innocent.

Sometimes we get off on tangents here. Last night we spent hours discussing Geraldo and what he said about Kronk. I don't see how that is any more relevant to Caylee's murder than ZG's lawsuit is. They are all interconnected though.

[~layla~]

SBT do you rememberr the date of the google search for ZG?

The last one on the A's computer was 7/16 .....

[CelticDawn]

Hmmm...I dunno...maybe it's the passionate energy to show that there was more than 6 Zenaida Gonzalez's in Orlando, etc...

What's the point that someone is trying to prove here???

That LE messed up??? That there possibly IS a nanny named ZFG who took care of Caylee, who kidnapped her??? :confused:


No offense to anyone who believes Casey's pile of horse excrement....but

NO. There was NO NANNY named zenaida Gonzaleno matter WHAT the MIDDLE name...surname is.

and YES CASEEEY is a flat out liar.

[i_pickle]

One thing's for sure. They have what I believe to be a murderous evil witch on record telling LE that poor ZFG's woman's name. Lip gloss is not the problem.

I for one don't think it's okay for Casey Anthony to trash everyone's name just because she can. That needs to stop. Can you imagine how notorious this woman's name will be by trial's end nationwide and in her home state?I think she has every right to seek legal council and if she ends up with a bottom feeder lawyer, which many seem to think she has, and ends up getting some money from this, more power to her.

I would change my name and not look back.

Casey needs to pay for what she did in every way legally possible, imo, and that includes slandering someone's name. And so does Cindy and anyone else that furthered the Zanny lie.

JMO

[joolz]

Yes,I think he may have , but I'm not Lenny . They really could have saved a lot of time by wire tapping a friend ,letting her believe they believed her kidnapping story , wore tapped someone very close like AMY and if AMY was coached by them ,they could have cleared this up a long time ago ,Casey is not too smart ,that is obvious, amy could have coaxed it all out .

I don't agree at all. Scott Peterson is no brain trust either, but all of Amber Frey's attempts to get him to admit anything failed. Casey will never admit what she has done unless she sees a way to reap personal benefit from the admission. jmo

[CelticDawn]

I know your post is not directed towards me. But I'll like to answer anyway.
That they didn't find "the right" Zenaida kept the grandparents hopes up.
I kept my hope of finding a live Caylee just as long as they did. And all because they hadn't looked into more than one Zenaida, and this one didn't fit Casey's description at all.
Now the only ZG that got cleared, both by LE, Casey, her parents and everybody else, is filing a law-suit.

Off course there was no Zanny. But some of us was clinging to the hope that there was a real nice nanny out there.
Don't blame us for that. It was an honest, although desperate hope some of us had.


I for one definitely understand...the road to hell is paved with good intentions.


I've been there.

[Pruddennce]

That's is interesting. I never caught that before. I thought Cindy wasn't at work that day, but George went to work. hmmm. I do remember it being mentioned about an EZ pass around 5:30 that day and we all thought it was George.

jmo

yes, page 21-22
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf

what is interesting: she claims GA called her from the impound, she 'met him', but doesnt say he went back home and they went together. seems like George was at the impound waiting for her. he drove Casey's car home. Cindy followed in her car, 'took the battery out', and she claims she 'got off work' which implies she was at work, and went back to work.

now, did GA go back home so they could go together? its unclear. he went and got a gas can out of a car....whose car?

Cindy's, his?

if he was still there with his vehicle, waiting for her, who helped George out with his car?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Tracian]

I'm just curious, but couldn't Jesse also file a suit against Cindy for the same reasons? :shrug:


As wrong and disgusting as it was for Cindy to name Jesse as the 'possible' kidnapper, it was not the same thing that Casey did; Cindy said she 'thought' that Jesse or Amy may be involved; Casey gave specific details about actually giving Caylee to her 'nanny' gave the name, address, etc and then said directly that this nanny kidnapped her toddler.

[?noanswer]

I am curious why all of a sudden Krunk, Lenny and ZF- are all becoming the bad guy? Has it not been stated that there is overwelming evidence that Caylee was murdered by the OC and the OC alone? :shrug:


Guess the defense is happy. This is exactly what they are trying to accomplish. Get the focus off KC. JMO

[SavannahStar]

No offense to anyone who believes Casey's pile of horse excrement....but

*snipped*




I've been posting on here since the beginning of this case and I've yet to hear of any poster who believes Casey. :shrug:

[Calla]

As wrong and disgusting as it was for Cindy to name Jesse as the 'possible' kidnapper, it was not the same thing that Casey did; Cindy said she 'thought' that Jesse or Amy may be involved; Casey gave specific details about actually giving Caylee to her 'nanny' gave the name, address, etc and then said directly that this nanny kidnapped her toddler.
And... when Cindy tried to tell Casey that the Grunds cared about her, Casey told her to stay far away from Jesse because she did not trust him..Casey led them down that path

[5boxersmom]

yes, page 21
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf

what is interesting: she claims GA called her from the impound, she 'met him', but doesnt say he went back home and they went together. seems like George was at the impound waiting for her. he drove Casey's car home. Cindy followed in her car, 'took the battery out', and she claims she 'got off work' which implies she was at work, and went back to work.

now, did GA go back home so they could go together? its unclear. he went and got a gas can out of a car....whose car?

Cindy's, his?

if he was still there with his vehicle, waiting for her, who helped George out with his car?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Hmmm. So how did George get to the impound lot? Didn't he tell LE my wife sent me to work after they got the car home?

jmo

[Pruddennce]

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=340038

Here Ye! Here Ye!

Document Dump STICKY Thread.

Interview with brother Lee Anthony

For all who ask for my source of Interview with brother Lee Anthony.

who was challenging YOU!????

that is an infamous interview......

:)

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[CelticDawn]

I've been posting on here since the beginning of this case and I've yet to hear of any poster who believes Casey. :shrug:

apologies....that should have read believe that casey is NOT a pile of horse excrement.....TY

[sunstar]

As wrong and disgusting as it was for Cindy to name Jesse as the 'possible' kidnapper, it was not the same thing that Casey did; Cindy said she 'thought' that Jesse or Amy may be involved; Casey gave specific details about actually giving Caylee to her 'nanny' gave the name, address, etc and then said directly that this nanny kidnapped her toddler.

Yes, so true. Didn't Casey say something to either LA or her parents during a jail call about not trusting Jesse? I think that might have been a clue from her sending Cindy that direction. MOO

[Neffy]

yes, page 21-22
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf

what is interesting: she claims GA called her from the impound, she 'met him', but doesnt say he went back home and they went together. seems like George was at the impound waiting for her. he drove Casey's car home. Cindy followed in her car, 'took the battery out', and she claims she 'got off work' which implies she was at work, and went back to work.

now, did GA go back home so they could go together? its unclear. he went and got a gas can out of a car....whose car?

Cindy's, his?

if he was still there with his vehicle, waiting for her, who helped George out with his car?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Nice catch. This story is also muddled. Something is always missing it seems. Granted everyone seems to leave something out of a story they're telling even me. But anything they say is suspect as they've been caught outright lying. You lie once and your integrity is gone. Nothing you say is believable.

[SavannahStar]

Yes, so true. Didn't Casey say something to either LA or her parents during a jail call about not trusting Jesse? I think that might have been a clue from her sending Cindy that direction. MOO


Yes, that was in one of the jailhouse conversations, IIRC. I remember that.

[girlspell]

If ZG wins her lawsuit against Casey, where does she get any money? The suit is against Casey, not her parents who stand to gain quite a bit of money. Casey doesn't have any. If there is any money she receives, it goes to her lawyer. She'll never receive any money once she is convicted. The whole point of lawsuits is to gain money, nothing else. They claim otherwise, as in my good name and reputation. But they are rewarded money.

[Tracian]

And... when Cindy tried to tell Casey that the Grunds cared about her, Casey told her to stay far away from Jesse because she did not trust him..Casey led them down that path



IMO, Casey led them exactly where they wanted to go. One of the things that family has in common is the "It's not my fault" syndrome.

[?noanswer]

And don't forget how the smell of decomposition morphed into a spoiled pizza, even on LKL's show the night before Caylee's remains were found. I still believe they had to know Caylee had been in the car trunk, but were in some very serious denial and "protect Casey" mode. MOO


I also think they knew where the body was. The state of mind they displayed on LKL was unbelievable. One would of thought they would have been on top of the world. They had just met with 2 people who has "seen" Caylee in a restaurant. They were off the wall in the interview with LKL. JMO

[Calla]

I can't blame CIndy. I got played by a sociopathic relative. Difference being, it was a sister, not a beloved child of my own that I loved with all of my heart. Hard pressed to this day to convince parents that their child is one..even with all the damage done and money gone. And whoever noted it, I can attest that it is true that they say "I am alot like you..You and I are similar.. We feel the same way..We are two of a kind"...just as Casey did to her mom. That is part of the camoflauge...because you fall for that and start making the error of thinking that they feel what you feel..and they do not.

[Pruddennce]

Hmmm. So how did George get to the impound lot? Didn't he tell LE my wife sent me to work after they got the car home?

jmo

yes he did 5boxersmom.

off the top of my head I cannot say for sure when Cindy called Amy. does anyone remember?

secondly, again, without digging, perhaps someone quick on the draw can answer: when did they get the car home, and when did George leave for work.

I am trying to reconcile how much time each one of them had with the car.

obviously they took the battery out because they thought Casey was going to come home and take the car in their absence.

why would they think that unless they TOLD HER, left a voicemail or a text that they RETRIEVED the car.

I remember the "problem with the car' text to Casey, but that's it?

we havent seen their phone records, the entire family.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Calla]

IMO, Casey led them exactly where they wanted to go. One of the things that family has in common is the "It's not my fault" syndrome.

Maybe so..or the skilled work of a sociopath/ IMO

[rj1212]

I know your post is not directed towards me. But I'll like to answer anyway.
That they didn't find "the right" Zenaida kept the grandparents hopes up.
I kept my hope of finding a live Caylee just as long as they did. And all because they hadn't looked into more than one Zenaida, and this one didn't fit Casey's description at all.
Now the only ZG that got cleared, both by LE, Casey, her parents and everybody else, is filing a law-suit.

Off course there was no Zanny. But some of us was clinging to the hope that there was a real nice nanny out there.
Don't blame us for that. It was an honest, although desperate hope some of us had.

fair enough...thank you.

[ConchGirl]

yes, page 21-22
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf

what is interesting: she claims GA called her from the impound, she 'met him', but doesnt say he went back home and they went together. seems like George was at the impound waiting for her. he drove Casey's car home. Cindy followed in her car, 'took the battery out', and she claims she 'got off work' which implies she was at work, and went back to work.

now, did GA go back home so they could go together? its unclear. he went and got a gas can out of a car....whose car?

Cindy's, his?

if he was still there with his vehicle, waiting for her, who helped George out with his car?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Wow, I never thought of that. It's interesting how much we think we know about a case and still there are so many unanswered questions. We've have 6 months to debate this case, imagine what the jury will have to wrestle with.

[~layla~]

You know what, I just cant get on that bandwagon of C&G&L bashing anymore..They did wrong, but they are going to suffer public opinions henceforth..I for one just dont wish to bash them anymore..They have their own crross to bear in this whole fiasco!!

LMS:closedeyes:

me either.
I mean.... they are the most cloud-headed parents Ive ever read about, but I guess you cant dictate that they be clear about their own daughters lying ways.

[5boxersmom]

yes he did 5boxersmom.

off the top of my head I cannot say for sure when Cindy called Amy. does anyone remember?

secondly, again, without digging, perhaps someone quick on the draw can answer: when did they get the car home, and when did George leave for work.

I am trying to reconcile how much time each one of them had with the car.

obviously they took the battery out because they thought Casey was going to come home and take the car in their absence.

why would they think that unless they TOLD HER, left a voicemail or a text that they RETRIEVED the car.

I remember the "problem with the car' text to Casey, but that's it?

we havent seen their phone records, the entire family.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

It was later when she called Amy. They didn't get to TonE's apartment until around 7:30 pm.

jmo

[dixielover]

I also think they knew where the body was. The state of mind they displayed on LKL was unbelievable. One would of thought they would have been on top of the world. They had just met with 2 people who has "seen" Caylee in a restaurant. They were off the wall in the interview with LKL. JMO

I agree- I think they knew where the body was and unfortunately they could not do anything about it. I really do think that there is alot of things we do not know about this case. I just do not believe in all of these coincidences including the PI and MR. I do believe that Casey is the only one responsible for the killing but think there is going to be more information regarding the cover up. jmo

[5boxersmom]

IIRC Cindy WAS working that day. George was to go and pick the car up @ tow yard himself but they needed both of them to sign because the title to the car was in both george and cindys name. then they had to go to the bank to get the $$ to get the car out of tow hock. After that Cindy went back to work.
I am sure LE has checked the time they were @ the lot (x2) and the time they were at the bank, and the time (or IF) Cindy went back to work. At least i would hope they have.

abbie

Oh I am sure LE has but I want to know also. :biggrin:

Who took George to the impound lot?

[legalmania]

FYI here is the case summary for Casey so far if anyone wants to see what motions have been filed. Does anyone know why it list Judge Adams?

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=2d1bdcfa-bc3a-4f7f-9c4f-00345944746e&CaseID=6079536

[dixielover]

Does anyone remember when LP said the Hoover told him about the tape and he then call NS. imo

[sammielizabe]

I would really like to know MORE details of the history of this whole family. I believe the dynamics of this family has played a role in all of this. Although, KC is ultimately responsible.

[ConchGirl]

I can't blame CIndy. I got played by a sociopathic relative. Difference being, it was a sister, not a beloved child of my own that I loved with all of my heart. Hard pressed to this day to convince parents that their child is one..even with all the damage done and money gone. And whoever noted it, I can attest that it is true that they say "I am alot like you..You and I are similar.. We feel the same way..We are two of a kind"...just as Casey did to her mom. That is part of the camoflauge...because you fall for that and start making the error of thinking that they feel what you feel..and they do not.

IMO Cindy said that to Casey in the jailhouse interviews and she told LE that Casey was a good mom, just like me. She bathed Caylee in the morning and at night, just like me. Cindy wants people to pity her. Casey wants people to pity her. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. moo

[Pruddennce]

IIRC Cindy WAS working that day. George was to go and pick the car up @ tow yard himself but they needed both of them to sign because the title to the car was in both george and cindys name. then they had to go to the bank to get the $$ to get the car out of tow hock. After that Cindy went back to work.
I am sure LE has checked the time they were @ the lot (x2) and the time they were at the bank, and the time (or IF) Cindy went back to work. At least i would hope they have.

abbie

cindy states he called her from the impound (tow company) because they needed both of them there with the title.

Cindy specifically says 'she met him' she stopped by the bank first to get the money.....

the way her statement reads, he was at the impound waiting for her.

perhaps she drove him back to get his own car. but that wasnt stated by her.

well, her whole statement is like a root canal gone wrong....all different directions.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[sunstar]

I also think they knew where the body was. The state of mind they displayed on LKL was unbelievable. One would of thought they would have been on top of the world. They had just met with 2 people who has "seen" Caylee in a restaurant. They were off the wall in the interview with LKL. JMO

I especially noticed how George couldn't even look at Larry King ~ he just kept looking down at the desk. It said a lot, imo.

[i_pickle]

If ZG wins her lawsuit against Casey, where does she get any money? The suit is against Casey, not her parents who stand to gain quite a bit of money. Casey doesn't have any. If there is any money she receives, it goes to her lawyer. She'll never receive any money once she is convicted. The whole point of lawsuits is to gain money, nothing else. They claim otherwise, as in my good name and reputation. But they are rewarded money.I doubt that any attorney would take a defamation case unless there's money involved. I've never heard of a defamation case where there isn't money involved.

ZG and her atty know that Casey has no money, her atty said so in both interviews that I saw.

[~layla~]

I also think they knew where the body was. The state of mind they displayed on LKL was unbelievable. One would of thought they would have been on top of the world. They had just met with 2 people who has "seen" Caylee in a restaurant. They were off the wall in the interview with LKL. JMO
amen! they were off... and I always guessed they were tipped that some news was coming down the wire, get home stat. Then lo and behold they were contacted as soon as the interview was over.... body had been located near your home...
Then more weirdness ensues. They were met at the airport and deplaned? ... even notorious people have to walk the corridors... what makes them more special? The best of it was having hired an atty and had him at the airport on standby .... yep .. it stinks.

[Pruddennce]

It was later when she called Amy. They didn't get to TonE's apartment until around 7:30 pm.

jmo

so Cindy arrives home between 5:30-6pm....how long a drive to where Amy was?

if you know?

TY!

best regards,
Pru

[Calla]

IMO Cindy said that to Casey in the jailhouse interviews and she told LE that Casey was a good mom, just like me. She bathed Caylee in the morning and at night, just like me. Cindy wants people to pity her. Casey wants people to pity her. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. moo

Well Cindy didn't kill her child. So there is a difference. Cindy wanted to care for Casey and some believe to the point of lying for her...Casey didn't care for Caylee.
THey are not the same IMO

[nc1948]

Wow, I never thought of that. It's interesting how much we think we know about a case and still there are so many unanswered questions. We've have 6 months to debate this case, imagine what the jury will have to wrestle with.

Conchgirl that is one of the things that bothers me. We are still spotting new things after 6 months. I am afraid of one juror saying well LE did not explain about picking up the car at the impound. Or when did Cindy find Amy to help find Casey. Or no one explained what Lee meant by "IS this like last time".

I am sure forensics will convict her. I just know there are strange people out there-some are sending Casey money in jail--so I will just have to have faith in our justice system.