Thursday, Jan 8, Part 1, morning

[bluwaters]

Candles for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose::rose::rose:

[bluwaters]

Casey Anthony's defense team seeks records from EquuSearch
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey0809jan08,0,2426132.story

Two Hearings Scheduled Thursday In Case Against Casey
http://www.wftv.com/news/18436005/detail.html#-

New Motions Filed In Casey Anthony Case
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/7/casey_anthony_hearing_set_for_thursday.html

Court to rule Caylee autopsy pictures
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8209908&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[JHP]

What is REALLY bothering me right now is the funeral home Caylee is at.
It's in a strip center, a little on the sleazy side. I know for a fact there are much nicer places for Caylee to be.
I think they shopped around for a funeral home that was willing to go along with some unusual requests. (like special filming etc.) We will find out as this case goes on.

JMO

[bluwaters]

The defense attorney can not testify to any story or evidence except in their opening & closing arguments. Only witnesses can like Casey, friends, people who have met the "nanny". They have nobody. Her family is not even on that list! If you look at their witness list it is only experts. I think they are going to put on a defense that the State has not proved their case and solely try to dispute the States evidence by the time of death. I do not think they will acknowledge any kind of accident theory or even the nanny.
I agree Bratlings.
They have no case, no good explanation for any of this.
All they can do is try to plant reasonable doubt of the state's case.
I don't think they will be able do it.

[n/t]

Good Morning,

A big day in court today. Looking forward to the judge's rulings especially whether or not Casey will have to give a deposition scheduled for Monday. It should be a very interesting.

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning everyone. Well, according to henry ketchup lee on NG last night, Werner Spitz performed the "autopsy" on the remains of Caylee. No Kathy Reichs. I hope she has bailed out of this defense team.

Nancy was in rare form last night, imo. :laugh:


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/07/ng.01.html

[bluwaters]

2 Hearings Slated In Anthony Investigation
Judge To Consider Releasing Photos Of Remains
http://www.wesh.com/news/18436051/detail.html

2 Hearings Set In Casey Anthony Cases
Access To Autopsy Photos Of Caylee Anthony To Be Debated
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18436093/detail.html#-

[n/t]

I agree Bratlings.
They have no case, no good explanation for any of this.
All they can do is try to plant reasonable doubt of the state's case.
I don't think they will be able do it.

I could be wrong but in order to plant reasonable doubt they will have to prove the "nanny" could exist or someone else could've killed Caylee. I can't see how they can do that without having some sort of theory of their own. I don't think they'll go with an accident theory. Too risky. They'll have to pin this on someone else.

[desmom]

What is REALLY bothering me right now is the funeral home Caylee is at.
It's in a strip center, a little on the sleazy side. I know for a fact there are much nicer places for Caylee to be.
I think they shopped around for a funeral home that was willing to go along with some unusual requests. (like special filming etc.) We will find out as this case goes on.

JMO

I was a little shocked when I saw the funeral home was in a strip mall. Are funeral homes in strip malls common in FL?

[Oregongal]

The defense attorney can not testify to any story or evidence except in their opening & closing arguments. Only witnesses can like Casey, friends, people who have met the "nanny". They have nobody. Her family is not even on that list! If you look at their witness list it is only experts. I think they are going to put on a defense that the State has not proved their case and solely try to dispute the States evidence by the time of death. I do not think they will acknowledge any kind of accident theory or even the nanny.

Yep, yep, yep!!!
Thanks for bringing this over Brat.
I so totally agree.
:loveeyes:

[PuffDragon]

Group seeking 15 min of Fame



http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/01/08/2009-01-08_band_seeks_its_15_minutes_of_infamy.html

Geeze.

Somebody ought to tell them we have much more efficient news distribution now, we no longer need troubadours.

[n/t]

Good morning everyone. Well, according to henry ketchup lee on NG last night, Werner Spitz performed the "autopsy" on the remains of Caylee. No Kathy Reichs. I hope she has bailed out of this defense team.

Nancy was in rare form last night, imo. :laugh:


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/07/ng.01.html

Didn't watch NG but read the transcripts. I hope both Dr.K and KR bailed out. I haven't seen Dr. K discussing this case in a while. He was on (I think it was LK or HLN) but he talked about Jett Travolta's death.

Gotta love Nancy.........these "experts" will wish they were never on her show discussing this case.

[Oregongal]

Thanks for the new fresh thread blu and also the candle link.
I appreciate you so much for posting the link everyday. I hit it every time and light at least 2, some days more each time.
:wub:

PS: why do these 'smilies' keep moving around?
LOL

[bluwaters]

Good morning everyone. Well, according to henry ketchup lee on NG last night, Werner Spitz performed the "autopsy" on the remains of Caylee. No Kathy Reichs. I hope she has bailed out of this defense team.

Nancy was in rare form last night, imo. :laugh:


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/07/ng.01.html

Lenny was in pretty good form himself!

I do love it when Nancy turns her back on one of her defense experts with her nose in the air! :tongue:

I am surprised about Reichs, but hope that she will not sully her good reputation.

As Tim Miller said - Everyone who gets involved with these people gets body slammed. (paraphrased)

Do you think that we will see NeJames in court representing TES, as Baez wants all of their search records? :w00t:

I really do like NeJames - despite the baby butt castings.

I am counting on Judge Strickland today to put Caylee's photos under the Dale Earnhardt law and protect her dignity.
Baez has reached a new low.
He's the one who should be screaming for this ban on the sale of her death photos - NOT fighting it!!!

[PuffDragon]

Good Morning,

A big day in court today. Looking forward to the judge's rulings especially whether or not Casey will have to give a deposition scheduled for Monday. It should be a very interesting.

I'm trying to remember any other cases when a defense attorney filed so many motions so often. He appears to not want to work, he wants the benefits of everybody else's work.. Is it all this maneuvering a good idea if it results in the Judge getting annoyed with you?

[Regina.Lampert]

Looking forward to the hearings. I think the Judge will delay the civil trial, the criminal's rights must be preserved above all else don't ya know......:thumbdown:

and

I think Judge Strickland will not pose any restrictions on the defense and/or the evidence. Once again, the criminal's rights reign supreme.

Nothing is preventing the defense from using photos they themselves took of the remains at any rate. They could sell the rights to those if they so desired, imo. I don't put anything past baez and the anthonys.

[PuffDragon]

Good morning everyone. Well, according to henry ketchup lee on NG last night, Werner Spitz performed the "autopsy" on the remains of Caylee. No Kathy Reichs. I hope she has bailed out of this defense team.

Nancy was in rare form last night, imo. :laugh:


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/07/ng.01.html

That was a very strange interview. It almost seemed as if HL was making up the answers, as if he didn't really know anything and was faking it.

[n/t]

They can have their experts testify the time of death was months after her disappearance while Casey was in jail even, that is reasonable doubt but I don't think any jury will buy it.

I suppose they could. It will be interesting to see what their experts will have to say about the smell of decomp in the trunk though. No pizza please.

[Oregongal]

Casey Anthony's defense team seeks records from EquuSearch
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey0809jan08,0,2426132.story

Two Hearings Scheduled Thursday In Case Against Casey
http://www.wftv.com/news/18436005/detail.html#-

New Motions Filed In Casey Anthony Case
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/7/casey_anthony_hearing_set_for_thursday.html

Court to rule Caylee autopsy pictures
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8209908&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

blu, are you going to post these links on the links thread?
I'm about done for the night/morning and want to know I won't lose them, cause my eyes cannot go much further....I should have gone ni night long ago, it's 4 am for me.
:sleep:

[bluwaters]

I was a little shocked when I saw the funeral home was in a strip mall. Are funeral homes in strip malls common in FL?

It was unsettling, wasn't it?
Strip mall everything are common in Florida.
I think that being filmed at night on NG last night made it look that much seedier.
Then, when Drew Petramoux (sp?) said it faced a dark alley out back and there was no security, it made it down right scary.

I do wish that they had not made an issue of the lack of security.
Hopefully, it won't encourage some idiots to try and break in.

[n/t]

I'm trying to remember any other cases when a defense attorney filed so many motions so often. He appears to not want to work, he wants the benefits of everybody else's work.. Is it all this maneuvering a good idea if it results in the Judge getting annoyed with you?

Delay delay delay ....that's why he's doing it.

[PuffDragon]

I could be wrong but in order to plant reasonable doubt they will have to prove the "nanny" could exist or someone else could've killed Caylee. I can't see how they can do that without having some sort of theory of their own. I don't think they'll go with an accident theory. Too risky. They'll have to pin this on someone else.

Maybe they won't push any theory and will just go with the "The prosecution has not proven its case" defense.

[bluwaters]

blu, are you going to post these links on the links thread?
I'm about done for the night/morning and want to know I won't lose them, cause my eyes cannot go much further....I should have gone ni night long ago, it's 4 am for me.
:sleep:

will do OG - get some rest!!!
I gave it up last night when nothing I read made sense anymore.

[Regina.Lampert]

They can have their experts testify the time of death was months after her disappearance while Casey was in jail even, that is reasonable doubt but I don't think any jury will buy it.

Hiya Brattie, and that is just what they're going to attempt, imo. After the spector spectacle I do not say "never." baez has gotten together what I consider one of the slickest defense teams, baden, lee and spitz are the absolute best at smoke and mirrors and downright deception in the courtroom, imo.

[JHP]

I was a little shocked when I saw the funeral home was in a strip mall. Are funeral homes in strip malls common in FL?

I know of a couple, but IMO it's not the like thats where most of them are.
There are some very nice reputable funeral homes in Orlando. This one has only been in business for about 10 years. Not saying that it's not a reputable one. But I think if anyone is trying to pull some shenanigans (like special filming etc.)it would probably be easier in a lesser known funeral home.

JMO

[PuffDragon]

Any of these experts can back out after examining the evidence themselves. Most signed on before they knew or saw personally what the evidence was. I am not holding my breath that they will all risk their reputations for Casey, some will but I dont think they all will.

PS- Who doesnt love baby butts? They are adorable!

Even Dr. K kept insisting that he wasn't working for either side, he was just hired to give his professional opinion. We don't actually know what that opinion was. We were just annoyed when he publicly started waffling.
I don't expect Kathy Reichs to suffer, it's not like she was a public figure to start with. If she just quietly retreats enveryone will forget she was involved at all. I have to admit I was surprised that she wasn't the one to do the so-called autopsy since studying bones is her specialty, so I wonder if she hasn't already pulled out.

In view of the indication that NeJames actually has ethics I'll give him a pass on the baby butt. I guess it's just a kooky sense of humor. (Can't wait until that child is a teenager and has to live with the existence of that plaque; my son was ready to tear up all the 'bearskin rug' pictures when he got to 'that age'. And they weren't even on the wall).

[JHP]

It was unsettling, wasn't it?
Strip mall everything are common in Florida.
I think that being filmed at night on NG last night made it look that much seedier.
Then, when Drew Petramoux (sp?) said it faced a dark alley out back and there was no security, it made it down right scary.

I do wish that they had not made an issue of the lack of security.
Hopefully, it won't encourage some idiots to try and break in.

There are many more well established funeral homes in that area though aren't there?
I was curious at why they would pick this one. Maybe its close to the Grandparents.
I'm afraid at this point I question everything about this case.
JMO

[Shyone]

Good Morning..I just cant comprehend the fact this 2nd autopsy was completed 5days ago and this child still isnt laid to rest, she deserves that and much more. Secondly, there's NO Way in Hellion i would ever let Baez and his clowns have any photo's in their hands permanently, to risky since they are nothing but "smoochers". Third, Why do they want the prosecution to hand them all their evidence and docs over to them, I would say TOUGH get your own the best way you know how. Lastly who believes in this "inside" theory with Kronk.

[PuffDragon]

Delay delay delay ....that's why he's doing it.

:confused: All he has to do is ask for it.

[Katt2]

Does anyone know offhand when Lee did his disappearing act? How does it correspond to these new interesting findings on the PI/or the first Kronk calls and knowledge of where Caylee's little body was?

[n/t]

Even Dr. K kept insisting that he wasn't working for either side, he was just hired to give his professional opinion. We don't actually know what that opinion was. We were just annoyed when he publicly started waffling.
I don't expect Kathy Reichs to suffer, it's not like she was a public figure to start with. If she just quietly retreats enveryone will forget she was involved at all. I have to admit I was surprised that she wasn't the one to do the so-called autopsy since studying bones is her specialty, so I wonder if she hasn't already pulled out.

In view of the indication that NeJames actually has ethics I'll give him a pass on the baby butt. I guess it's just a kooky sense of humor. (Can't wait until that child is a teenager and has to live with the existence of that plaque; my son was ready to tear up all the 'bearskin rug' pictures when he got to 'that age'. And they weren't even on the wall).

Dr. K acknowledged that he was hired by the defense team on many occasions. Not only on NG but on LK as well.

[Pruddennce]

Looking forward to the hearings. I think the Judge will delay the civil trial, the criminal's rights must be preserved above all else don't ya know......:thumbdown:

and

I think Judge Strickland will not pose any restrictions on the defense and/or the evidence. Once again, the criminal's rights reign supreme.

Nothing is preventing the defense from using photos they themselves took of the remains at any rate. They could sell the rights to those if they so desired, imo. I don't put anything past baez and the anthonys.

however, RL, IMO, the photos of the actual crime scene and discovery of her bones as they lay, some in the bag, discovery of the additional bones, items (if any, found with the body), are the pics that garner more money.....there is a different fascination and interest viewing an actual discovery site as opposed to remains sitting on a table..for instance, if there was something attached to the skull, as some media outlets are reporting, therein lies that fascination.

its different, IMO.

best regards,
Pru

[Motomom]

Does anyone know offhand when Lee did his disappearing act? How does it correspond to these new interesting findings on the PI/or the first Kronk calls and knowledge of where Caylee's little body was?

Lee disappeared right after the documents were released where casey had told Grund and I believe another person about Lee coming into her room when she was younger. We haven't heard from him since IMO

[CANDYKISSES]

Des, I found a photo of the funeral home, at SM ,thread 86, post 51, but I don't know how to bring it over. I was as shocked as you when I saw it.

Do you have a link to that thread Swarovski?

[PuffDragon]

Dr. K acknowledged that he was hired by the defense team on many occasions. Not only on NG but on LK as well.

No no, I know that, that wasn't what I meant. What he kept insisting was that he reports what he sees, no matter which side has hired him. Even though he was saying that he stopped being completely open in his interviews, and that's what got us upset because we always felt he was credible before Baez hired him.

[n/t]

No no, I know that, that wasn't what I meant. What he kept insisting was that he reports what he sees, no matter which side has hired him. Even though he was saying that he stopped being completely open in his interviews, and that's what got us upset because we always felt he was credible before Baez hired him.


Gotcha! I misunderstood. :smile:

[VII]

Looking forward to the hearings. I think the Judge will delay the civil trial, the criminal's rights must be preserved above all else don't ya know......:thumbdown:

and

I think Judge Strickland will not pose any restrictions on the defense and/or the evidence. Once again, the criminal's rights reign supreme.

Nothing is preventing the defense from using photos they themselves took of the remains at any rate. They could sell the rights to those if they so desired, imo. I don't put anything past baez and the anthonys.

Agree that the defense already has their own photos to use and could profit from if they so chose.

I don't think they should delay the civil suit. IMO, her guilt or innocence on the murder charge has nothing to do with the with Gonzalez'zz contention that Casey ruined her rep. In testimony, all Casey would have to say is "This is not THE "Z" I was talking about, it was another "Z". Just as she has claimed before.

[Oregongal]

I was a little shocked when I saw the funeral home was in a strip mall. Are funeral homes in strip malls common in FL?

I can't speak about FL, but I know when my oldest son's mil died the place she was brought to and had a service at was....off the beaten path.
We could hardly find it. It was just like what I think this funeral home was.....not a well known, well established and recognized place. It was decent and respecful but, I had the feeling of the cheapest way you could go.
The viewing and service was short, respectful, but nothing that I had experienced before.
We stood, no chairs to sit in, there were no flowers except what I brought and the 'man', not a pastor did a 2 min talk, even got the mil name wrong. I have to say, I was kind of appalled by the whole thing.
I understood that the family didn't have the money to do a full on service, but, hope to God that when I go, I will be given a service that I feel would be better than this one. I plan to be cremated as my parents were and have a memorial in my church, the service done by the pastor. Not just some 'guy'.
As I said, my sons mil did receive a decent service, for what it was worth, but not quite up to the standard I would have chosen.

[Regina.Lampert]

however, RL, IMO, the photos of the actual crime scene and discovery of her bones as they lay, some in the bag, discovery of the additional bones, items (if any, found with the body), are the pics that garner more money.....there is a different fascination and interest viewing an actual discovery site as opposed to remains sitting on a table..for instance, if there was something attached to the skull, as some media outlets are reporting, therein lies that fascination.

its different, IMO.

best regards,
Pru


Point taken Pru, you are absolutely correct.

[n/t]

Does anyone know offhand when Lee did his disappearing act? How does it correspond to these new interesting findings on the PI/or the first Kronk calls and knowledge of where Caylee's little body was?

November 19th. is when it was reported:

"Still, anyone who has been following the case would want to see the segment from reporter Jessica D'Onofrio. Cindy and George Anthony said their son, Lee, has been traveling and trying to make money to support himself."

http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:g0c9LlFyoT8J:www.dailypress.com/topic/orl-casey-anthony-house-tour-111908,0,7335637.story%3Ftrack%3Drss-topicgallery+cindy+anthony,+lee+is+travelling&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=30

[PuffDragon]

Gotcha! I misunderstood. :smile:

No problem. I reread what I wrote and I see I wasn't clear. Carry on.

[VII]

Delay delay delay ....that's why he's doing it.

Lets HOPE Baez continues his motion filing approach.
Reason being, he'll have ALL the bases covered in reason for appeal = Casey won't HAVE a reason to file an appeal. It will have already been discussed.

While "we" would like to see a speedy trial
it would be of benefit in JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE to let Baez ~carry on~.

[bluwaters]

Looking forward to the hearings. I think the Judge will delay the civil trial, the criminal's rights must be preserved above all else don't ya know......:thumbdown:

and

I think Judge Strickland will not pose any restrictions on the defense and/or the evidence. Once again, the criminal's rights reign supreme.

Nothing is preventing the defense from using photos they themselves took of the remains at any rate. They could sell the rights to those if they so desired, imo. I don't put anything past baez and the anthonys.

I do hope that the civil trial is not delayed and Casey is facing a deposition on Monday morning. :thumbsup:
I think that it will probably be delayed, but we shall see.
Judge Rodriguez (I think is his name), civil court judge, was pretty ticked at the Team Casey, so they are not off to a good start with the new judge.

Judge Strickland has remained irritated with Baez from the beginning. Remember when Baez accused the OCSO of running a scam because he didn't want to pay for the tips that he requested from them? Strickland was not amused.

Judge Strickland has said that when the 1st Amendment is at stake, he will come down on the side of the 1st Amendment every time.
I do hope that he will move to protect Caylee's images under the Dale Earnhardt law though. There is simply no public need to know when it comes to these images, imo.

Regina, I am not certain that the defense can sell their own photos if the Dale Earnhardt law is applied. I do hope that Katprint or another of our legal eagles will weigh in on that today. I am very confused about this issue.

BTW -here is the statute:

The 2008 Florida Statutes
Chapter 406
MEDICAL EXAMINERS; DISPOSITION OF DEAD BODIES

406.135 Autopsies; confidentiality of photographs and video and audio recordings; exemption.-- (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=2006-263&URL=CH0406/Sec135.HTM)

[Oregongal]

I have to sign off now...it took me forever to write my last post because my fingers are having a hard time finding the right keyes, lots of backspacing and ny eyes want to go to sleep.
See you all tomorrow, or should I say later today?
Good night/good morning all.
:wub:
:seeya:

[Motomom]

Regina, I am not certain that the defense can sell their own photos if the Dale Earnhardt law is applied. I do hope that Katprint or another of our legal eagles will weigh in on that today. I am very confused about this issue.

BTW -here is the statute:

The 2008 Florida Statutes
Chapter 406
MEDICAL EXAMINERS; DISPOSITION OF DEAD BODIES

406.135 Autopsies; confidentiality of photographs and video and audio recordings; exemption.-- (http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=2006-263&URL=CH0406/Sec135.HTM)

blu. I posted last night about this. Reading that law it looks as if the next of kin has the right to do whatever they want with the photos.. basically they can sign off. I may be reading it completely wrong or just not understanding it. If someone can simplify it I'd appreciate it. because IMO it's the next of kin that is the problem. Casey has the right to see those photos, sounds like she can do whaever she wants with them, including signing off on the sale of them? Can anyone explain it better?

[bluwaters]

blu. I posted last night about this. Reading that law it looks as if the next of kin has the right to do whatever they want with the photos.. basically they can sign off. I may be reading it completely wrong or just not understanding it. If someone can simplify it I'd appreciate it. because IMO it's the next of kin that is the problem. Casey has the right to see those photos, sounds like she can do whaever she wants with them, including signing off on the sale of them? Can anyone explain it better?
I know, this confuses me to no end.
Since Casey is in jail, accused of murdering Caylee, does that affect her rights under this statute?
The legislature did not foresee anything like this case when the law was written.
I am very interested in how Judge Strickland handles this issue today.

[VII]

I have to sign off now...it took me forever to write my last post because my fingers are having a hard time finding the right keyes, lots of backspacing and ny eyes want to go to sleep.
See you all tomorrow, or should I say later today?
Good night/good morning all.
:wub:
:seeya:

Nite, OG.
Get some rest so you can keep UP with all of this and keep me informed :biggrin:

[CANDYKISSES]

blu. I posted last night about this. Reading that law it looks as if the next of kin has the right to do whatever they want with the photos.. basically they can sign off. I may be reading it completely wrong or just not understanding it. If someone can simplify it I'd appreciate it. because IMO it's the next of kin that is the problem. Casey has the right to see those photos, sounds like she can do whaever she wants with them, including signing off on the sale of them? Can anyone explain it better?

No, but I have mixed feelings right now. Since the cat's starting to fall out of the bag, I am guessing George and Cindy would NEVER want their names associated with anything like this. I think this might be the line IMO.

Given that, IF CASEY thinks she may ever have to face down Cindy without bars between them, I HOPE SHE IS THINKING VERY HARD ABOUT THIS....:chicken:

I do believe one interview with Casey showed FEAR OF CINDY and I guess time will tell regarding the photos. I might be placing too much value on the visit yesterday. Every time I give them credit....I get a good slap back into reality. JMOOC. :wink:

[Regina.Lampert]

I know, this confuses me to no end.
Since Casey is in jail, accused of murdering Caylee, does that affect her rights under this statute?
The legislature did not foresee anything like this case when the law was written.
I am very interested in how Judge Strickland handles this issue today.

Hi Blu, I agree with Moto the family has complete discretion over those images. What lawmaker could have foreseen a family that would actually stoop so low as to make money off their murdered child. It boggles the mind, imo.

[Regina.Lampert]

No, but I have mixed feelings right now. Since the cat's starting to fall out of the bag, I am guessing George and Cindy would NEVER want their names associated with anything like this. I think this might be the line IMO.

Given that, IF CASEY thinks she may ever have to face down Cindy without bars between them, I HOPE SHE IS THINKING VERY HARD ABOUT THIS....:chicken:

I do believe one interview with Casey showed FEAR OF CINDY and I guess time will tell regarding the photos. I might be placing too much value on the visit yesterday. Every time I give them credit....I get a good slap back into reality. JMOOC. :wink:

Morning CandyK. What visit?.

[VII]

snip'd 4 focus

I do believe one interview with Casey showed FEAR OF CINDY and I guess time will tell regarding the photos. I might be placing too much value on the visit yesterday. Every time I give them credit....I get a good slap back into reality. JMOOC. :wink:


I've been very busy this week and have missed a LOT.
Visit? Can you elaborate please?
TIA!

[Motomom]

I know, this confuses me to no end.
Since Casey is in jail, accused of murdering Caylee, does that affect her rights under this statute?
The legislature did not foresee anything like this case when the law was written.
I am very interested in how Judge Strickland handles this issue today.

Exactly, I believe the law is to protect the family.. it's teh family they need protection from. As far as Casey, she's innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law right. We read that she signed off on Caylee's remains IIRC to the anthony's.. so does that give the Anthony's the right to the pictures, or does it go back to Casey? and I'm thinking if it goes back to Casey.. I mean face it, she put her in a bag in the woods..she could give to carps about her.. she needs money to pay the defense.. wouldn't put it past her to sign off on the pictures to Baez an dreally don't put it past the anthony's.

[esmile]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18432677/detail.html#-

ANTHONY FAMILY ATTORNEY MEETS WITH PROSECUTORS

The lawyer for the Anthony family had a meeting Wednesday with prosecutors in downtown Orlando at the State Attorney's Office. George and Cindy Anthony's attorney, Brad Conway, met with prosecutors and investigators for about an hour Wednesday morning.

and

Conway also told Eyewitness News that he's been trying to get immunity for the George and Cindy Anthony.


comment:

Most of this meeting was regarding the refusal of the prosecution to turn over Caylee's remains, but I find it VERY telling that the immunity deal is still being pushed for the Anthony's.

With the daisy chain now being slowly revealed (LP brought it up again last night saying the meter reader is also involved) do you think we will see several people brought up on obstruction charges? The attorney for LA looked like he was bald face lying when he was asked on NG if his client knew where the body was before it was found.

I think this is what LA did. He was the one who told those investigators to go to that spot. He already said Casey tells him things she would not tell anyone else, including OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS.

This house of cards is about to cave in.

[callmetree]

Candles for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose::rose::rose:

thanks blu for the new thread and the candle link. always a good way to start the day.

[jammies]

What is REALLY bothering me right now is the funeral home Caylee is at.
It's in a strip center, a little on the sleazy side. I know for a fact there are much nicer places for Caylee to be.
I think they shopped around for a funeral home that was willing to go along with some unusual requests. (like special filming etc.) We will find out as this case goes on.

JMO


Morning. The strip mall kind of suprised me too. It just looked awful.

[henry]

regarding today's court appearance . . . will we be seeing a new judge?

Case Number: 08-CF-0015606-O Filing Date: 10/14/2008
Case Type: Criminal
Case Status: TRIAL
Status Date: 1/5/2009
Current Judge: ADAMS, JOHN H SR

http://www.ninthcircuit.org/judges/circuit_judges/john_adams.shtml

[jammies]

Good morning everyone. Well, according to henry ketchup lee on NG last night, Werner Spitz performed the "autopsy" on the remains of Caylee. No Kathy Reichs. I hope she has bailed out of this defense team.

Nancy was in rare form last night, imo. :laugh:


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/07/ng.01.html

I missed ALL yesterday but did watch NG and Greta. Did you happen to catch Greta reel Dr. Lee in with the "duct tape"? He confirmed it was there. Go Greta!

[bluwaters]

Hi Blu, I agree with Moto the family has complete discretion over those images. What lawmaker could have foreseen a family that would actually stoop so low as to make money off their murdered child. It boggles the mind, imo.

Astounding, isn't it?
I think that Judge Strickland will be disgusted that Baez is not willing to agree to the state's motion and protect Caylee's images.
I am hoping that the statute gives him the power to make the decision despite Casey's objection.
Yuck.
It is probably wishful thinking on my part, and a very broad, lay person's reading of the statute.

FWIW - This statute was heavily debated and fought as a restriction on 1st Amend rights.
As time was of the essence when Earnhardt died and his widow was trying to prevent release of his autopsy photos, it was written in haste and passed through both houses of the legislature with lightning speed. I don't know how much it was "tweaked" after the fact. It is another interesting aspect of this bizarre case.

Off to work! Will hopefully be back by 1:30 for the second hearing.

Here's to everything going Caylee's way today!
:beer: <--- cappuccinos :tonguewag:

[breezie]

What is REALLY bothering me right now is the funeral home Caylee is at.
It's in a strip center, a little on the sleazy side. I know for a fact there are much nicer places for Caylee to be.
I think they shopped around for a funeral home that was willing to go along with some unusual requests. (like special filming etc.) We will find out as this case goes on.

JMO


I question if she's really there. How did the defense team get in to do a second autopsy without reports of their entry. I think they've got her somewhere else and this is a front.

[esmile]

yup - i also heard that, but it's not in ngrrrace's transcripts - so i thought i was hearing things . . . thanks for confirming this

very interesting that it did not end up in the transcripts. Lifetime tv is risking their rep a bit here if they make the wrong move. Most of those who watch Lifetime tv are the same people who are fighting for Caylee's rights, protection and dignity. To know they are funding the defense (or may be) is alarming. :blink:

[desmom]

Des, I found a photo of the funeral home, at SM ,thread 86, post 51, but I don't know how to bring it over. I was as shocked as you when I saw it.

Morning Swarovski!

I think this is their website: http://www.robertbryantfuneral.com/

It looks nice from the photos. I am not impressed with the strip mall thing.

[callmetree]

Times of the two hearings today.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18436005/detail.html

thanks for the times swarovski. these are eastern time correct?

[AMS]

Good morning everyone. Well, according to henry ketchup lee on NG last night, Werner Spitz performed the "autopsy" on the remains of Caylee. No Kathy Reichs. I hope she has bailed out of this defense team.

Nancy was in rare form last night, imo. :laugh:


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/07/ng.01.html


NG was in rare form!! SPitz performed the autoposy...5 or 6 DAYS AGO! NG was getting very frustrated with HL about the fact that Caylee was not had a funeral yet.

[CC I See]

Good morning everyone. Well, according to henry ketchup lee on NG last night, Werner Spitz performed the "autopsy" on the remains of Caylee. No Kathy Reichs. I hope she has bailed out of this defense team. Nancy was in rare form last night, imo. :laugh:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/07/ng.01.html


PADILLA: No. So why shouldn`t everybody else be threatened with the same thing? I think Kronk`s already taken the lie detector test. I think Savage has already got him over a barrel. Savage has -- given it up. They`re just trying to figure out how to put the case together.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/07/ng.01.html

Am I reading this correctly? Padilla is suggesting that there was a massive cover-up of the find of Caylee's body weeks before it was found. I also gathered from other statements that the reason it was done so was to further along the timeline so that certain deals could go forward. If this is not what he was saying please someone correct me. How would he know this?

[Katt2]

very interesting that it did not end up in the transcripts. Lifetime tv is risking their rep a bit here if they make the wrong move. Most of those who watch Lifetime tv are the same people who are fighting for Caylee's rights, protection and dignity. To know they are funding the defense (or may be) is alarming. :blink:

At one point, Lifetime publicly denied they had any plans with this project.

Since it is one of those "Lenny said, Todd said" unsubstantiated rumors about another network, HLN probably doesn't feel comfortable reporting it without proof.

[Barbara fl.]

The defense attorney can not testify to any story or evidence except in their opening & closing arguments. Only witnesses can like Casey, friends, people who have met the "nanny". They have nobody. Her family is not even on that list! If you look at their witness list it is only experts. I think they are going to put on a defense that the State has not proved their case and solely try to dispute the States evidence by the time of death. I do not think they will acknowledge any kind of accident theory or even the nanny.


Although I agree fully with what you are saying, that the defense is going to try that tactic...I believe there will be a problem with it...The problem will be that the tapes will show the lies that Casey has told...it will also show that she claimed to have given the child to a nanny....and that the 31 days gone by without reporting her missing.....

So I believe that even with all their "so called" experts...they will have a very hard time keeping out all the tapes of Casey's....She wont have to take the stand.....and Casey is going to need alot more then disputing the time of death....The fact is the child is deceased....

[Stella Rose]

I'm trying to work and play catch-up on all I missed last night, and the first thing I see this AM is that Caylee's remains are in a funeral home in a (bleeping) strip mall?

>sigh< Just when I have some small hope for some dignity for this child, something else happens. Honestly - I wonder why any of it even shocks me anymore.

I'll try to keep up today. Thanks to everyone who responded to my questions last night. I'll be back over there reading and trying to get up to speed. You all sure were busy last night.

[Barbara fl.]

Looking forward to the hearings. I think the Judge will delay the civil trial, the criminal's rights must be preserved above all else don't ya know......:thumbdown:

and

I think Judge Strickland will not pose any restrictions on the defense and/or the evidence. Once again, the criminal's rights reign supreme.

Nothing is preventing the defense from using photos they themselves took of the remains at any rate. They could sell the rights to those if they so desired, imo. I don't put anything past baez and the anthonys.


You are so right about the criminal's rights....but Florida has their own way of handling things....

Also I do expect that the defense is going to sell the pictures that they took of Caylee's remains (which is disgusting)....However, they would love to be able to sell the pictures that were taking at the scene, it would probably bring alot more money in for them....I hope the state will be able to prevent this from happening....

[VII]

At one point, Lifetime publicly denied they had any plans with this project.

Since it is one of those "Lenny said, Todd said" unsubstantiated rumors about another network, HLN probably doesn't feel comfortable reporting it without proof.


It was refreshing to see Lenny toothpickLESS last night. But that puffed UP look of his irks me. WHEN does LP claim to have been privy to the information that DCasey called Hoover to tell him Caylee was dead and going to get the body?
TIA!!

[CC I See]

At one point, Lifetime publicly denied they had any plans with this project.

Since it is one of those "Lenny said, Todd said" unsubstantiated rumors about another network, HLN probably doesn't feel comfortable reporting it without proof.

I have felt that Lifetime would be the perfect place for Caylee's story..... after it is over. This is why I think that many of the actions we see now is to make it more interesting with the various twists and turns orchestrated by the players in this drama. Mainly the family.... could this be why Caylee's body is still at the funeral home and not properly buried? The right deal hasn't been made yet and the filming rights have not been finalized? At this point, it is all about money, lots of it and the greed to cash in.

[esmile]

At one point, Lifetime publicly denied they had any plans with this project.

Since it is one of those "Lenny said, Todd said" unsubstantiated rumors about another network, HLN probably doesn't feel comfortable reporting it without proof.

I agree.. found this article about it too. In it it states: 'Lifetime Network told Eyewitness News there is no such deal'. But then, they are probably just not admitting it just yet. If LP is correct, there are conditions to the deal going through.


Anthony Family May Be Making Millions On Movie Deal
http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

Wednesday, September 24, 2008 – updated: 7:44 am EDT September 25, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News uncovered new information about who's cashing in on the Casey Anthony case. Sources extremely close to the family told Eyewitness News that the Anthonys have signed a $2 million movie deal with the Lifetime Movie Network.

There are also claims that Casey's attorney is purposely trying to create drama in the case. (full story at link)

[Barbara fl.]

I hate to say anything that justifies anything that camp does, but it does make sense. Suppose their pictures do not match up to what the defense has. After burial it will be too late to prove the dispute without disrespecting her grave with an exhumation. For example, the prosecution has a picture of a broken bone or one with a knife nick in it, and the defense has a picture of what they call the same bone without all of that. You want to know ahead of time. Better to wait for burial so the defense will not have any excuses or appeal issues.


You have a point...however, I wouldn't be surprise if Caylee's remains were already cremated and were sent over to the Anthony's in an unmarked vehicle....The Anthony's, for some reason do not want a memorial....They have been keeping a very low profile since the discovery of Caylee's remains...I believe there is alot more to the reason for this then is being said....JMO

[VII]

You have a point...however, I wouldn't be surprise if Caylee's remains were already cremated and were sent over to the Anthony's in an unmarked vehicle....The Anthony's, for some reason do not want a memorial....They have been keeping a very low profile since the discovery of Caylee's remains...I believe there is alot more to the reason for this then is being said....JMO

I agree, Barb. I had the same thought when they were showing the FH - *she's not there*. The family has already grieved, privately. They are probably trying to work up the courage to go public with their grief.

[esmile]

Last nights bombshell info made me think. If they had found Caylee's remains in November instead would there have been soft tissue?

and how could ANYONE sit around knowing Caylee was out there?????

[NYGalPal]

Morning,

Thanks for the updates. The As might have to go live on an island all by their evil selves. I knew they wanted to profit, but didn't realize just how much. What a sick bunch.

:cursing:

[Katt2]

yup - i also heard that, but it's not in ngrrrace's transcripts - so i thought i was hearing things . . . thanks for confirming this

Actually it is in the transcript as I just read it.

[Motomom]

Last nights bomshell info made me think. If they had found Caylee's remains in November instead would there have been soft tissue?

and how could ANYONE sit around knowing Caylee was out there?????

I don't think so, but I'm not sure. I think it's doubtful but there maybe would have been more than there was.

[esmile]

I'm trying to work and play catch-up on all I missed last night, and the first thing I see this AM is that Caylee's remains are in a funeral home in a (bleeping) strip mall?

>sigh< Just when I have some small hope for some dignity for this child, something else happens. Honestly - I wonder why any of it even shocks me anymore.

And apparently the building is not secure. They said it looked wide open in the sense that you could see in windows and nobody was around - I got the impression no one would be detected breaking in.

[CC I See]

And apparently the building is not secure. They said it looked wide open in the sense that you could see in windows and nobody was around.

.... if someone breaks in and steals the remains of Caylee, just more drama for the movie. I still say this is all contrived.

[Motomom]

And apparently the building is not secure. They said it looked wide open in the sense that you could see in windows and nobody was around.

Like another poster suggested, she may indeed already be cremated, if that is the route they were taking. I would be surprised if they didn't take that route. It is a funeral home and a crematorium I believe. That coudl be why she is there. Not all funeral homes have a crematorium, at least in Jersey they don't.

[destiny1]

Group seeking 15 min of Fame



http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/01/08/2009-01-08_band_seeks_its_15_minutes_of_infamy.html

Oh come On! :lol:

Doesn't anybody have any shame?

[esmile]

Casey Anthony's defense team seeks records from EquuSearch

Some of the other defense motions filed late Wednesday seek:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/orl-casey0809jan08,0,5436820.story

*Copies of the search warrants and items seized on Dec. 11 and Dec. 20 from the home Anthony shared with her parents on Hopespring Drive.

*Unedited 911 calls made by Roy Kronk, the Orange County meter reader who found Caylee's remains off Suburban Drive on Dec. 11. He had previously alerted authorities three times in August of a suspicious bag in the same area.

*DNA and fingerprint reports for Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, and her brother, Lee Anthony.

*Individual law-enforcement interviews with her parents and brother on July 24.

*A visitation video between Anthony and her parents on Aug. 14 at the Orange County Jail.

[henry]

Actually it is in the transcript as I just read it.

lol - got to get another cup of coffee - the one i read early early this morning didn't have it - thanks! going right over there now . . .

[NYGalPal]

Oh come On! :lol:

Doesn't anybody have any shame?

That would be a big NO.

:lol:

[CANDYKISSES]

Morning CandyK. What visit?.

Morning, I should have been more clear. Sorry.

I was referring to the meeting with the prosecutor on behalf of the Anthony's where they didn't even talk about immunity according to the attorney IIRC. :w00t:
JMO

[CC I See]

Oh come On! :lol:

Doesn't anybody have any shame?

If there were anyone..... this story would have been over already.

[Roux]

I question if she's really there. How did the defense team get in to do a second autopsy without reports of their entry. I think they've got her somewhere else and this is a front.

It baffled me how they could pull that off and no one know about it. Maybe it was New Year's Eve or Day when there would be less media around - Henry said 5 or 6 days ago.

[Katt2]

Like another poster suggested, she may indeed already be cremated, if that is the route they were taking. I would be surprised if they didn't take that route. It is a funeral home and a crematorium I believe. That coudl be why she is there. Not all funeral homes have a crematorium, at least in Jersey they don't.

This is true. None of the funeral homes in my city have a crematorium and have to be taken elsewhere and then back to the funeral home.

[Lavenia]

Morning. The strip mall kind of suprised me too. It just looked awful.

I attended the funeral of one of my best friend's father in Houston years ago. They were fairly wealthy but when I got to the funeral home I was shocked. It was the first time I ever even heard of a funeral home in a strip mall. I'm sure you can have a nice funeral in one but I have to say his was like a faceless, production line funeral.

[callmetree]

You have a point...however, I wouldn't be surprise if Caylee's remains were already cremated and were sent over to the Anthony's in an unmarked vehicle....The Anthony's, for some reason do not want a memorial....They have been keeping a very low profile since the discovery of Caylee's remains...I believe there is alot more to the reason for this then is being said....JMO

i actually have thought the same thing about little caylee's remains. even moreso after it was said the autospy had been completed for 5 or 6 days. also after seeing the place she is supposedly being kept. i wouldn't be able to think about my grandchild being left all alone like that.:crying:

[destiny1]

I think Padilla was playing both sides of the fence (that is so obvious IMO) To an extent to keep getting the goods he had to play silent for a while, to appear trustworthy to get more.

Lenny is at the very least aggravating, at the most involved. At that particular point in time when he alleges this conversation, he was no longer involved directly was he? I still can't see these people funnelling any information to him because they know what he is like. It doesn't take being an associate or colleague to see what he does.

was asked of me last night if I think that the PIs were using Lenny to help create more dramatics. I don't know. what do you think about that one?

[Lavenia]

I heard LP talk about the Lifetime deal. He said this was "according to Todd Black". Also said the deal was worth $1.7 MILLION. IIRC.

Isn't there a law that says you can't benefit from the death you CAUSED by doing this and getting your defense paid for? I realize this money, IF TRUE, would be going to the elder Ants, but isn't there some bookkeeping to make sure that no monies go to the OC's defense? (And if the money doesn't go to her defense, why would you want it?)

[esmile]

Like another poster suggested, she may indeed already be cremated, if that is the route they were taking. I would be surprised if they didn't take that route. It is a funeral home and a crematorium I believe. That coudl be why she is there. Not all funeral homes have a crematorium, at least in Jersey they don't.

As an earlier poster said NG was in rare form last night. While talking to HL she kept asking him why nobody had been there to get Caylee he kept giving excuses about needing the remains (post 2nd autopsy) to compare. However the other expert states they usually just take a small sample and allow families to have their loved one to bury without delay. HL when pushed for the last time blurted out 'I don't know why no one has been by to pick up 'the bones'!

So in essence he is saying they COULD pick up Caylee now. But because of his comment I don't think she has been cremated.

[JHP]

I question if she's really there. How did the defense team get in to do a second autopsy without reports of their entry. I think they've got her somewhere else and this is a front.

Hmm breezie, thats an interesting thought. Didn't one poster report G&C had sat with her bones? Their visit would have surely been caught by someone.

I just question anything anyone related to this case does. I am pretty cynical though.
JMO

[CC I See]

i actually have thought the same thing about little caylee's remains. even moreso after it was said the autospy had been completed for 5 or 6 days. also after seeing the place she is supposedly being kept. i wouldn't be able to think about my grandchild being left all alone like that.:crying:
... but wasn't it reported that the Anthony's went there to sit with her remains? Or is this just another story to make this interesting.

[Barbara fl.]

With this new "so called" evidence....I have my theory of what might have taken place....The Meter Man did see something on August 11 and did report it...thus, in my opinion, relieves him of being involved in any way.....The tape that has now been handed over to LE could very well be a key to the undisputable murder committed by Casey....I believe it might have originally been meant to try and clear Casey but backfired....(that's if it showes what they are claiming it shows)....

I also believe that this PI that has come forward (and being the one that told Lenny Padilla) could be working together (JMO)....I can not believe that if Lenny Padilla HAD this info back in November that he wasn't part of this info...I believe that it's possible that Lenny Padilla and this PI were trying to figure out a way to both make the discovery...but the MR beat them to it and now Lenny Padilla is swearing that the MR was informed of the whereabouts of the body......

The reason I so believe this is that if LP had this info for that long he would have said it on the NG show immediately....LP doesn't keep anything in....

And after the remark that LP made to Tim Miller about the publicity that would be involved if they could be holding Caylee head in their hands....I wouldn't trust LP at all....Also, IF Lenny Padilla knew this back in November 15th (as he stated) why would he only had called one man in the FBI (Mr. Savage)....I think it was because he wanted to be the first one, but if he really felt that this tape was the truth and that he had knowledge that Caylee was deceased (which was no shock to anyone) he would have come forward with it and not have just made a prediction......JMHO

[NYGalPal]

As an earlier poster said NG was in rare form last night. While talking to HL she kept asking him why nobody had been there to get Caylee he kept giving excuses about needing the remains (post 2nd autopsy) to compare. However the other expert states they usually just take a small sample and allow families to have their loved one to bury without delay. HL when pushed for the last time blurted out 'I don't know why no one has been by to pick up 'the bones'!

So in essence he is saying they COULD pick up Caylee now. But because of his comment I don't think she has been cremated.

You make a good point. Maybe no one will bother to pick her bones up. The As are much too busy seeking ammunity and money for themselves to do it.

:thumbdown:

[msgatorslayer]

I know, this confuses me to no end.
Since Casey is in jail, accused of murdering Caylee, does that affect her rights under this statute?
The legislature did not foresee anything like this case when the law was written.
I am very interested in how Judge Strickland handles this issue today.

:blink:Oh my!! Never thought of that. Thanks for linking the statue. Yes, nobody forseen it. It was written so family members didn't have to see their loves ones autopsy pics in the next edition of NE. Who would think that someone out there DOES want that happen? EEEK!

Moring, Everyone! I'm way behind. So, the PI turned over his video clip of the remain site and also says that he was told Caylee was dead. And that her remains were in that area. Get out your wadding boots. It's getting deep. No pun intended.

Today's a big day. Two hearings. I'm gonna have to plot my daily outtings so I don't miss them. I hope the Judge grants the restrictions on the autopsy pics.

[VII]

I think Padilla was playing both sides of the fence (that is so obvious IMO) To an extent to keep getting the goods he had to play silent for a while, to appear trustworthy to get more.

Sounds like obstruction to me ...
NG needs to scrape him from the bottom of her shoe, and fast.

[callmetree]

... but wasn't it reported that the Anthony's went there to sit with her remains? Or is this just another story to make this interesting.

i haven't heard that so i can't answer your question cc. i'm sorry.

[cassidy]

I have felt that Lifetime would be the perfect place for Caylee's story..... after it is over. This is why I think that many of the actions we see now is to make it more interesting with the various twists and turns orchestrated by the players in this drama. Mainly the family.... could this be why Caylee's body is still at the funeral home and not properly buried? The right deal hasn't been made yet and the filming rights have not been finalized? At this point, it is all about money, lots of it and the greed to cash in.

And I politely disagree. Caylee's story needs to be played out in a court of law, where (hopefully) justice will be served. It doesn't need to be made into a movie for our entertainment and someone else's profit. Enough of that has happened already. That poor baby needs to be laid to rest, her killer and whoever is involved needs to be punished. Then she needs to be allowed the diginity of resting in peace.

JMO

[NYGalPal]

Hmm breezie, thats an interesting thought. Didn't one poster report G&C had sat with her bones? Their visit would have surely been caught by someone.

I just question anything anyone related to this case does. I am pretty cynical though.
JMO

I believe that was Mallory yesterday. How would she know if G&C sat w/Caylee's bones? I wouldn't believe they did until I see the proof.

[CANDYKISSES]

I've been very busy this week and have missed a LOT.
Visit? Can you elaborate please?
TIA!


http://www.wftv.com/news/18430243/detail.html#-

:thumbup:

[msgatorslayer]

Isn't there a law that says you can't benefit from the death you CAUSED by doing this and getting your defense paid for? I realize this money, IF TRUE, would be going to the elder Ants, but isn't there some bookkeeping to make sure that no monies go to the OC's defense? (And if the money doesn't go to her defense, why would you want it?)

Yeah, but, that law applies to Casey. And she hasn't been convicted, YET.

Her parents on the other hand have not commited a crime, or should I say, they haven't been charged with anything, YET. So, they can profit. I don't beleive anything can be done about what they chose to use the money for.

[Barbara fl.]

In a nutshell, anyone catch Greta last night? What was this big huge piece of information from Dr. Lee about the second autopsy? I fell asleep.



Henry Lee didn't have much to say...he is not the one that did the autopsy...and he thinks that the reason that Caylee has not been put to rest yest is because incase they need something else they would rather have the reamains right there rather then to exhume them...It's a crock....there has to be another reason.....

My opinion is that maybe Caylee has already been cremated and the Anthony's already have the remains but do not want a memorial....Just an opinion, nothing more....

Or the Anthony's are trying ti figure out a way to have it without the media attention.....For some real strange reason they don't want to come out in the public (none of them) and I find that suspicious...JMO

[gino1234]

Who can you believe in this case?

Henry Lee is one of the original hired guns. I wonder when Dr. Biden will come on board.

[CC I See]

i haven't heard that so i can't answer your question cc. i'm sorry.

It was discussed as fact on an earlier thread and was allegedly from Mallory, Lee's girlfriend. Anyone remember?

[destiny1]

i actually have thought the same thing about little caylee's remains. even moreso after it was said the autospy had been completed for 5 or 6 days. also after seeing the place she is supposedly being kept. i wouldn't be able to think about my grandchild being left all alone like that.:crying:

Reports say her remains are there but I personally doubt that to be the case. I could be wrong, but with the profile and tone of this horrible case I just can't see them leaving her there in such an unsecured space. The world is rife with ghouls nuts and opportunistic people looking to make a buck.

Although there are much "nicer" funeral homes, I would think that many of them would not want the publicity and indignity of even the slightest possibility of nuts coming out of the trees and throwing their business into the Anthony spotlight.

[Lavenia]

Yeah, but, that law applies to Casey. And she hasn't been convicted, YET.

Her parents on the other hand have not commited a crime, or should I say, they haven't been charged with anything, YET. So, they can profit. I don't beleive anything can be done about what they chose to use the money for.

That's what I'm saying though. Isn't there some kind of accounting in place to make sure that the money isn't funneled to Casey via a defense?

ETA: I just re-read your post Ms.Gator and see where you addressed what the Ants can spend the money on, but wouldn't MOST offenders have the money in a parents name (or wife, etc.) yet have the money spent on them? I guess it would be a logistical nightmare to follow the money of anyone who could *possibly* benefit Casey.

[funkyflower]

Group seeking 15 min of Fame



http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/01/08/2009-01-08_band_seeks_its_15_minutes_of_infamy.html

Speaking of fame/shamless self promotion. I saw a promo for Rachael Ray's show with Dr G appearing on tv for yesterday's show she appeared on and it went something like this:

"Dr G!, the famous medical examiner in the Caylee Anthony case, will be here to show us how not to die with important tips....blah blah..."

:cursing: I went to RR's website and sure enough, Dr G has a new book out. :rolleyes: I am not sure if she was aware they were promoting her with this type of commercial, but it is W R O N G.

[Stella Rose]

.... if someone breaks in and steals the remains of Caylee, just more drama for the movie. I still say this is all contrived.

CC you just may be on to something. Contrived should be the name of the dang movie.

[jammies]

I attended the funeral of one of my best friend's father in Houston years ago. They were fairly wealthy but when I got to the funeral home I was shocked. It was the first time I ever even heard of a funeral home in a strip mall. I'm sure you can have a nice funeral in one but I have to say his was like a faceless, production line funeral.

Didn't it say "crematorium" on the front? (or something like that) Sorry, but that just sends chills down my spine. The place looks seedy. Hope they have a service at their church and NOT a funeral home. I HATE FH's.

[msgatorslayer]

Henry Lee didn't have much to say...he is not the one that did the autopsy...and he thinks that the reason that Caylee has not been put to rest yest is because incase they need something else they would rather have the reamains right there rather then to exhume them...It's a crock....there has to be another reason.....

My opinion is that maybe Caylee has already been cremated and the Anthony's already have the remains but do not want a memorial....Just an opinion, nothing more....

Or the Anthony's are trying ti figure out a way to have it without the media attention.....For some real strange reason they don't want to come out in the public (none of them) and I find that suspicious...JMO

I don't find it odd at all that the Anthony's have hidden themselves from the public. They don't like to be wrong. And since Caylee's remains have been found, all of us vultures were right and they were wrong. Since day 31 it has been them against us. They're eating crow for dinner and don't like it. JMO

[CC I See]

And I politely disagree. Caylee's story needs to be played out in a court of law, where (hopefully) justice will be served. It doesn't need to be made into a movie for our entertainment and someone else's profit. Enough of that has happened already. That poor baby needs to be laid to rest, her killer and whoever is involved needs to be punished. Then she needs to be allowed the diginity of resting in peace.

JMO

I think you misunderstood my tone..... I was not supporting the made for TV movie but only stating what the players in this drama might be up to. I for one would not wish such a movie to be made nor watch it.

Another fact here, if Casey is found not guilty, then she can indeed profit from such a deal.

[cassidy]

Oh come On! :lol:

Doesn't anybody have any shame?

Why would we expect people who never knew Caylee to have any shame when those who DID aren't showing any? She wouldn't have been out in the elements in a garbage bag if her mother had any shame.

JMO

[jammies]

Henry Lee didn't have much to say...he is not the one that did the autopsy...and he thinks that the reason that Caylee has not been put to rest yest is because incase they need something else they would rather have the reamains right there rather then to exhume them...It's a crock....there has to be another reason.....

My opinion is that maybe Caylee has already been cremated and the Anthony's already have the remains but do not want a memorial....Just an opinion, nothing more....

Or the Anthony's are trying ti figure out a way to have it without the media attention.....For some real strange reason they don't want to come out in the public (none of them) and I find that suspicious...JMO



Lee did confirm the duct tape. I thought that was the highlight of his interview.

[trich]

Group seeking 15 min of Fame



http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/01/08/2009-01-08_band_seeks_its_15_minutes_of_infamy.html

Just when you think youu ha ve heard it all ...yep someone thinks up more outrageous ways to get their 15 minutes of fame.
:ohmy:

[SavannahStar]

I believe that was Mallory yesterday. How would she know if G&C sat w/Caylee's bones? I wouldn't believe they did until I see the proof.


It was reported on Nancy Grace that night and a link was brought up afterwards. Nancy had said she heard the Anthonys had "sat with Caylee's remains." It was at the funeral home. Mallory talked about that afterwards, she did not mean that the Anthonys had sat with bones at the recovery site.

[Roux]

Speaking of fame/shamless self promotion. I saw a promo for Rachael Ray's show with Dr G appearing on tv for yesterday's show she appeared on and it went something like this:

"Dr G!, the famous medical examiner in the Caylee Anthony case, will be here to show us how not to die with important tips....blah blah..."

:cursing: I went to RR's website and sure enough, Dr G has a new book out. :rolleyes: I am not sure if she was aware they were promoting her with this type of commercial, but it is W R O N G.

ITA, wrong and completely in poor taste.

[MalloryCat]

Group seeking 15 min of Fame



http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/01/08/2009-01-08_band_seeks_its_15_minutes_of_infamy.html

Gross.

I was just thinking about Zenaida Gonzalez who is suing Casey, speaking of people seeking fame.

First of all, isn't her name just Zenaida Gonzales, not Fernandez Gonzalez? And if Zenaida is so common in Florida in the Hispanic community why is not every Zenaida suing Casey? So this Zenaida cant get a job, maybe it has to do with her tattoos that are covering a vast part of her body, I mean what was the reason she couldn't gain employment prior to this?

[cassidy]

I think you misunderstood my tone..... I was not supporting the made for TV movie but only stating what the players in this drama might be to. I for one would wish such a movie to be made nor watch it.

Another fact here, if Casey is found not guilty, then she can indeed profit from such a deal.

I must have misunderstood. I just wish that anyone who is making money off this baby's death could be forced to stop immediately. It's getting beyond sickening.

JMO

[MalloryCat]

It was reported on Nancy Grace that night and a link was brought up afterwards. Nancy had said she heard the Anthonys had "sat with Caylee's remains." It was at the funeral home. Mallory talked about that afterwards, she did not mean that the Anthonys had sat with bones at the recovery site.

Are we still on this? LOL.

I love how people need to see proof when the Anthonys do anything, yet they will believe sensationalism, because its just that.

[NYGalPal]

It was reported on Nancy Grace that night and a link was brought up afterwards. Nancy had said she heard the Anthonys had "sat with Caylee's remains." It was at the funeral home. Mallory talked about that afterwards, she did not mean that the Anthonys had sat with bones at the recovery site.

How did the As slip into the funeral home without being seen by anyone?

[st777jo]

Gross.

I was just thinking about Zenaida Gonzalez who is suing Casey, speaking of people seeking fame.

First of all, isn't her name just Zenaida Gonzales, not Fernandez Gonzalez? And if Zenaida is so common in Florida in the Hispanic community why is not every Zenaida suing Casey? So this Zenaida cant get a job, maybe it has to do with her tattoos that are covering a vast part of her body, I mean what was the reason she couldn't gain employment prior to this?

I thought she had a job and was let go because of the publicity and her name?

[JHP]

I believe that was Mallory yesterday. How would she know if G&C sat w/Caylee's bones? I wouldn't believe they did until I see the proof.

I believe you're right. And if they did something like that we would see it because IMO it would go to something like an inside edition.

[MalloryCat]

I thought she had a job and was let go because of the publicity and her name?

Nope, she never was employed, people were questioning how she could afford to look for apartments without a job early on.

[CC I See]

I must have misunderstood. I just wish that anyone who is making money off this baby's death could be forced to stop immediately. It's getting beyond sickening. JMO

.... and I agree. This is why so many posters have urged the Anthony's to go back to work and fade into the sunset until the trial is over. Since the bills have to be paid, this case is now their cash cow. (I mean absolutely no disrespect whatsoever in calling Caylee's death this)

[Roux]

I do too! I thought all services though were at churches? The wake usually being at the FH or in odd cases the home. I honestly didn't know some do both at the FH.

I don't know how it is in other parts of the country but in the south, most Protestants have a visitation at the funeral home the day prior to the funeral service and the majority of both services are at the funeral home. Funeral services are held in churches but it is not as common.

[NYGalPal]

Hellohellohello? Any links for the hearings today?

There is a link thread.

[Roux]

How did the As slip into the funeral home without being seen by anyone?

How did Spitz slip into the funeral home for the examination without someone knowing? That is a mystery to me.

[funkyflower]

Hellohellohello? Any links for the hearings today?

There are links at the ALL over this thread to them as well as FYI:
There is a links ONLY thread, which is almost always updated with these. The hearing links are there as well.
And hello..... hello......hello to you too.

[msgatorslayer]

I don't know how it is in other parts of the country but in the south, most Protestants have a visitation at the funeral home the day prior to the funeral service and the majority of both services are at the funeral home. Funeral services are held in churches but it is not as common.

I've been to 3 funerals in Florida. One was in a church. The others were in a funeral home.

[CC I See]

How did Spitz slip into the funeral home for the examination without someone knowing? That is a mystery to me.

Didn't they say that they took them to another location where there was better viewing and then returned them..... or like some of you have posted, they aren't really at the funeral home at all.

[NYGalPal]

I believe you're right. And if they did something like that we would see it because IMO it would go to something like an inside edition.

Right and if they had been there, why leave her there? It isn't human nature to do that. IMO of course.

[CC I See]

Yes there is and I have no idea where to look in it, can you just simply answer me? Takes about as much ime as what you wrote eh?

What are you looking for? At the very beginning of this thread on page one are many links that are being currently discussed.

[jammies]

I do too! I thought all services though were at churches? The wake usually being at the FH or in odd cases the home. I honestly didn't know some do both at the FH.

Well, in our family we don't do funeral homes or wakes. Casket IN the church with a church service. Funeral homes are cold, unfamiliar, etc. JMO
btw, I DO live in a 1870 house where the front parlor can be closed off from the rest of the house for wakes. Always wonder how many dead people have been laid to rest in here.

[NYGalPal]

Yes there is and I have no idea where to look in it, can you just simply answer me? Takes about as much ime as what you wrote eh?

If I had it, I would give it to you. No need for a tude. :rolleyes:

[trich]

SNIPPED:

Has anyone from her show considered the possiblity that one of the PI's found the bag and then moved it out of the way so they could get video shots of "nothing there" supporting the defense claim that the bag wasn't there and then mysteriously shows up when the Meter Reader found it (eerrrr...the last time)?



I thought I heard that suggested by someone last night on NG.
Or else someone else on the board did.
If the defense did anything like that Baez would be in real doodoo IMO.
Now if the Anthonys were respsonsible they should be arrested IMO.
If that is not obstruction of justice I don't know what is.
Does anyone know if that was actually said on NG ?

[Roux]

Didn't they say that they took them to another location where there was better viewing and then returned them..... or like some of you have posted, they aren't really at the funeral home at all.
I didn't hear that, and was stunned last night when it was said on NG that it had been conducted. After all the brouhaha this week about the photos I had the impression that it was yet to be done.

[MalloryCat]

Mallory, from what I recall, Casey told police that Zenaida kidnapped the baby. When they pressed her for information about this Zenaida, she gave the Sawmill address and a description of the car and said that she had two children and named them. All of this information that Casey told police matched up with the Zanaida Gonzalez that is now suing Casey. Plus she gave some kind of description which did not match. This Zenaida was fired immediately from her job, when they showed her face on the news (remember the news was saying that she had been implicated in this kidnapping) and then she received death threats and threats that her children would be kidnapped. She got a lawyer right away and I beleive she was truly afraid for her life and for her kids. Then when she denied even knowing Casey, the police went back to Casey to verify some of the information and told Casey that this Zanaida claimed that she never babysat Caylee and doesn't even know Casey and Casey proceeds to say that the car was different and changed her story, then ended up saying that she "was talking about a different Zanaida".

I don't think she is looking for 15 minutes of fame, but I do believe she is trying to clear her name. Of course, by the time her trial comes around, her name will have been cleared because everyone now knows the Zenaida story was bs.

Right, but she gave a wrong car description, and if Zenaida does not have Fernandez in her name, what is she doing?

[msgatorslayer]

Mallory, from what I recall, Casey told police that Zenaida kidnapped the baby. When they pressed her for information about this Zenaida, she gave the Sawmill address and a description of the car and said that she had two children and named them. All of this information that Casey told police matched up with the Zanaida Gonzalez that is now suing Casey. Plus she gave some kind of description which did not match. This Zenaida was fired immediately from her job, when they showed her face on the news (remember the news was saying that she had been implicated in this kidnapping) and then she received death threats and threats that her children would be kidnapped. She got a lawyer right away and I beleive she was truly afraid for her life and for her kids. Then when she denied even knowing Casey, the police went back to Casey to verify some of the information and told Casey that this Zanaida claimed that she never babysat Caylee and doesn't even know Casey and Casey proceeds to say that the car was different and changed her story, then ended up saying that she "was talking about a different Zanaida".

I don't think she is looking for 15 minutes of fame, but I do believe she is trying to clear her name. Of course, by the time her trial comes around, her name will have been cleared because everyone now knows the Zenaida story was bs.

IIRC, Casey said the nanny didn't have any children.

When the story changed to the abduction taking place at Blanchard park, nanny's Sister, Sam, and her 2 children were mentioned.

[kitty1182]

I don't know how it is in other parts of the country but in the south, most Protestants have a visitation at the funeral home the day prior to the funeral service and the majority of both services are at the funeral home. Funeral services are held in churches but it is not as common.

That is the way it is here..Although we belong to a church, our services will be held in the chapel at the funeral home, vistation the night before....

[bballgrl]

Come on you guys, there is 1500 posts on 2 link threads, can you just answer the Q for this non click poster?

Its really not that hard to do, ya think?

Holy Cow.... when you ask so nicely..... :rolleyes:

[MGM111]

Nope, she never was employed, people were questioning how she could afford to look for apartments without a job early on.

Good Morning MalloryCat,

This is incorrect - Zenida was indeed employed.
caseys faux Zenida apparently was not..she had alot of money and was performing nanny duties for free.

[gaelicpeas]

Come on you guys, there is 1500 posts on 2 link threads, can you just answer the Q for this non click poster?

Its really not that hard to do, ya think?
The civil hearing is at 11 am, the criminal hearing is at 1:30. We don't know if they will be carried live yet, so no links for that have been posted. Generally, if cameras are allowed, it will be shown on all the local Orlando channels (WFTV, Myfoxorlando, WESH, Local6, etc.).

[Lavenia]

I do too! I thought all services though were at churches? The wake usually being at the FH or in odd cases the home. I honestly didn't know some do both at the FH.

A lot of people aren't associated with a church or prefer a secular service.

[st777jo]

Right, but she gave a wrong car description, and if Zenaida does not have Fernandez in her name, what is she doing?

So she did have a job right Mal??

Casey is not going to pull out any pix of Zenaida. It would definitely hurt her case knowing that no Zenaida kidnapped Caylee. You can bet if there was a real kidnapping, she would describe her to a T.
jmo, jo

[kitty1182]

Well, in our family we don't do funeral homes or wakes. Casket IN the church with a church service. Funeral homes are cold, unfamiliar, etc. JMO
btw, I DO live in a 1870 house where the front parlor can be closed off from the rest of the house for wakes. Always wonder how many dead people have been laid to rest in here.


The funeral home we use in Thomasville is not cold..


http://www.jcgreenandsons.com/HOME.htm

[NYGalPal]

Holy Cow.... when you ask so nicely..... :rolleyes:

Didn't realize we were a click here because that one is too lazy to go to go to the link thread.

[st777jo]

I did ask nicely the first 2 times, what do ya hafta do arund here, run around nekid?

NeVeRmind...

I couldn't answer you Anni because I didn't know either. I went to the links also.
Thanks to gaelicpeas
jmo, jo

[jammies]

A lot of people aren't associated with a church or prefer a secular service.



True but the A's ARE associated with a church. Maybe Baptist's don't do church services?? I should know that as I lived in TX for 12 years surrounded by them! lol

[MalloryCat]

Good Morning MalloryCat,

This is incorrect - Zenida was indeed employed.
caseys faux Zenida apparently was not..she had alot of money and was performing nanny duties for free.

No, the Zeniada on the news has been crying from early on she cant get a job, and there is no way she was fired from a job for being the accused Zenaida, or she would have been suing them and crying about it.

[CC I See]

Holy Cow.... when you ask so nicely..... :rolleyes:

Start here and then go to page 2

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=347562

[jammies]

The funeral home we use in Thomasville is not cold..


http://www.jcgreenandsons.com/HOME.htm


Very nice, kitty!

[kitty1182]

True but the A's ARE associated with a church. Maybe Baptist's don't do church services?? I should know that as I lived in TX for 12 years surrounded by them! lol

We are Baptist and belong to a church, but we still have services at the funeral home...We could have it at the church, but our family like many others these days use the chapel at the funeral home....The preacher from the church speaks at the funeral home..Now I guess if where we are to be laid to rest was at the church, it would make more sense..Our church does not have it's own graveyard.....We had to buy plots at the graveyard that is like 7 miles from the funeral home.....

[msgatorslayer]

I'm sorry sweetie, but you are wrong. She did have a job. She was fired. Check out the old news clips if you doubt that. K?

IIRC, wasn't she a house cleaner?

[destiny1]

Good Morning MalloryCat,

This is incorrect - Zenida was indeed employed.
caseys faux Zenida apparently was not..she had alot of money and was performing nanny duties for free.

wer should all be so lucky

Deosn't the real zenaida have six children and was recently let go from her domestic engineering job?

[NYGalPal]

Not lazy, its just really early here and eyes could not find what I was looking for, guess I should have had some coffee first. :scared:

Ok, so you still haven't looked for link. Can you move on and stop making this thread about you and your needs?
Thanks.

Aruba is great by the way.

[NYGalPal]

wer should all be so lucky

Deosn't the real zenaida have six children and was recently let go from her domestic engineering job?

Yes and this is why she is suing Casey.

[Motomom]

Come on you guys, there is 1500 posts on 2 link threads, can you just answer the Q for this non click poster?

Its really not that hard to do, ya think?

Anni, all you have to do is go to the links thread. The most recent one, which isn't locked and check out the last page. That typically has all of the links one may need. People also post them here, usually in the beginning of the thread, then update throughout the day. I try to go there first, before posting so I can update myself without haveing to ask for links, which I do on occasion..but really always check the last page of links thread#2.. I don't have it yet. Not sure if one has been posted yet either.

[CC I See]

Not lazy, its just really early here and eyes could not find what I was looking for, guess I should have had some coffee first. :scared:

Anni click on this link read it and then go to page 2. The links are there.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=347562

[Pooh]

wer should all be so lucky

Deosn't the real zenaida have six children and was recently let go from her domestic engineering job?

That's what I remember about the real Zenida. She had six kids and did have a job but was let go.

[NYGalPal]

No, the Zeniada on the news has been crying from early on she cant get a job, and there is no way she was fired from a job for being the accused Zenaida, or she would have been suing them and crying about it.

You are incorrect. She got fired because of the bad press. I know you were here when it was discussed.

:confused:

[Motomom]

Didn't realize we were a click here because that one is too lazy to go to go to the link thread.

Yeah, the clique thing really gets old and it's so juvenile, but whatever floats..LOL

I'm hoping that ttv will cut to the hearings too but we know how they run.. i have to do something until about 12 so I hope to miss nothing.. Will Casey be there does anyone know?

[msgatorslayer]

From Morgan's site...

'She lost her job, received threats, and has been publicly vilified as a result of this injustice. '

http://www.forthepeople.com/

[CC I See]

That I am not sure. Let me see if I can google some of the old clips and find out. Hold on.

Yes, she worked as a housekeeper and lost her job she said because she could not work due to all of the publicity. It could also be because of all of the lost time she spent being interviewed by LE. Many jobs, if you do not show up for any reason, you lose.

[MalloryCat]

I'm sorry sweetie, but you are wrong. She did have a job. She was fired. Check out the old news clips if you doubt that. K?

Um, I have k? And tell me why if she was fired for being the implicated ZENAIDA why is she not suing someone who actually has some money, like the EMPLOYER? I have looked at every interview, and no where does she say she was fired because of that, unless you want to prove I am wrong, since you are disputing it. TY

[NYGalPal]

Jeez,I see the "button pushers" are off to a roaring start this morning. See you legitimate posters later.

:seeya:Yes, they do start early. One always needs back up ya know.

Do go.

:seeya:

[Lavenia]

True but the A's ARE associated with a church. Maybe Baptist's don't do church services?? I should know that as I lived in TX for 12 years surrounded by them! lol

IKWYM! I don't know. I've been to a LOT of funerals here in the DEEP south, but I have only attended a service at a church once and that was Catholic.

[marshmallow]

I believe that was Mallory yesterday. How would she know if G&C sat w/Caylee's bones? I wouldn't believe they did until I see the proof.



I also read it and am looking for a link. Does anyone else remember appx. when in the past week it was printed/said?

[Motomom]

IKWYM! I don't know. I've been to a LOT of funerals here in the DEEP south, but I have only attended a service at a church once and that was Catholic.

Same here Lavenia.. only been to one Catholic service at a church.. the rest have been at funeral parlors.

[kOOkie1]

The civil hearing is at 11 am, the criminal hearing is at 1:30. We don't know if they will be carried live yet, so no links for that have been posted. Generally, if cameras are allowed, it will be shown on all the local Orlando channels (WFTV, Myfoxorlando, WESH, Local6, etc.).

Morning!! i just read MyFoxOrlando.com will stream both hearings LIVE..

[MalloryCat]

From Morgan's site...

'She lost her job, received threats, and has been publicly vilified as a result of this injustice. '

http://www.forthepeople.com/


So, an employer said, you are fired because Casey Anthony says you took her kid, and even though the cops cleared you, we have to let you go. Yeah. Like she wouldn't be suing the crap out of her employer and causing so many suits against that company.

[Roux]

You know Conway said yesterday that Dominic didn't need a lawyer. Sure makes me wonder after the clip on NG of Hoover with his lawyer sitting next to him. Which one of these PI's is not on the up and up, or is there something funky about both of them.

[Pooh]

Morning!! i just read MyFoxOrlando.com will stream both hearings LIVE..

Excellent - Thanks for the post!

[NYGalPal]

I also read it and am looking for a link. Does anyone else remember appx. when in the past week it was printed/said?


I think it was mentioned yesterday. I'll search and post what I come up with.

[Stella Rose]

Go to page 1 of this thread. Bluwaters was kind enough to post many links for today's schedule.

[MalloryCat]

I also read it and am looking for a link. Does anyone else remember appx. when in the past week it was printed/said?

It was from Natisha Lance, Nancys reporter, and it was stated the 4th or 5th.

[bballgrl]

Didn't realize we were a click here because that one is too lazy to go to go to the link thread.

Yeah, well... you can lead a horse to water..... :thumbsup:

[Roux]

Morning!! i just read MyFoxOrlando.com will stream both hearings LIVE..

Shoot! I have a hair appointment at 12:30, but maybe it will last a long time since there are so many motions and I'll be able to catch part of it.

[MiamiNice1]

I'm kinda scratching my head over yesterday's events and had some questions (while we wait for the hearing today) Thanks in Advance!:

1) When PI Casey and PI Hoover filmed the spot where Caylee was found, was the bag there?

2) Were the PIs filming in the SAME spot Caylee was found?

3) Did the PIs see a bag there and then walk away?!

4) Are the PIs claiming there was NO bag in November and then Dec.11 there suddenly WAS a bag?

5) Is PI Casey still officially working for the Anthonys?

6) Why would Lenny Padilla say he was told all this back in November and then NOT SAY ANYTHING to authorities?


imo

[marshmallow]

Yeah, the clique thing really gets old and it's so juvenile, but whatever floats..LOL

I'm hoping that ttv will cut to the hearings too but we know how they run.. i have to do something until about 12 so I hope to miss nothing.. Will Casey be there does anyone know?



I hate to be the one to point this out but... the fact that we all gather here daily to discuss this case makes us all a clique. The whole entire group of us.. so how's about a group hug?
(ok, I may whack my own self for that :laugh:)

I don't know if Casey is required to appear but my guess would be no.

[Peaches]

Feel better?

O/t~ When you go to Aruba, I sure hope you will never need any help with the PD...Make sure you leave lots of money for the corruption dept. too...

:rose: for Natalee Holloway

[CC I See]

Um, I have k? And tell me why if she was fired for being the implicated ZENAIDA why is she not suing someone who actually has some money, like the EMPLOYER? I have looked at every interview, and no where does she say she was fired because of that, unless you want to prove I am wrong, since you are disputing it. TY

I think she was working in a private home and is not covered by the normal rules of employment

[Pooh]

Here are some links I have kept in a notepad file for this case. Hopefully some of them will become active once the hearing gets underway:

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:53408.asx

link to WKMG-TV Orlando Channel 6 affiliate


http://mfile.akamai.com/25193/live/reflector:32415.asx

Fox 35 Orlando


http://www.wesh.com/video/16128463/index.html

WESH Channel 2 Orlando


http://mfile.akamai.com/12939/live/reflector:34407.asx

WFTV channel 9 Orlando

[msgatorslayer]

So, an employer said, you are fired because Casey Anthony says you took her kid, and even though the cops cleared you, we have to let you go. Yeah. Like she wouldn't be suing the crap out of her employer and causing so many suits against that company.

I agree, Cat. Maybe she was still in a probationary period and she missed to many days of work to be with LE or interview on TV. Whatever the case, Morgan would go after the company, if he could. You can bet on that, lmao.

[ishkabibble]

They can have their experts testify the time of death was months after her disappearance while Casey was in jail even, that is reasonable doubt but I don't think any jury will buy it.

She has locked herself into the story of the nanny, unless the defense can show even the remote possibility that she exists it's going to be hard for them to get reasonable doubt. Casey admits she is the person who handed Caylee over to the Nanny and no evidence exists that anyone ever saw Caylee alive after that.

[bballgrl]

I also read it and am looking for a link. Does anyone else remember appx. when in the past week it was printed/said?

It was on the NG show 2 nights ago. I believe it was the young man (guest) on the show who mentioned it.

[marshmallow]

So, an employer said, you are fired because Casey Anthony says you took her kid, and even though the cops cleared you, we have to let you go. Yeah. Like she wouldn't be suing the crap out of her employer and causing so many suits against that company.



I do believe that part of Zeniada's claim is that she was let go from her job because of the name she shares being thrown about by Casey. She has since had difficulty finding a job.

[funkyflower]

True but the A's ARE associated with a church. Maybe Baptist's don't do church services?? I should know that as I lived in TX for 12 years surrounded by them! lol

I'm Catholic, but other side of my family is Baptist. They generally do have a church service, whether it be right before leaving the funeral home at the "temple" within the funeral home or prefer to be taken to their own church and have the service, then off to the burial location.

[MalloryCat]

I think she was working in a private home and is not covered by the normal rules of employment

This is America, there are no other exceptions for employment, you either are, or you aren't. No where is it ok to be fired because of an implication, especially if its not true, and verified by LE. I have heard Zenaida says she CANT get a job, but never having been fired because of this.

[destiny1]

Morning!! i just read MyFoxOrlando.com will stream both hearings LIVE..
Great!


I'll bet that they have so many hits that we can't get in.

Going to go get in line now!


I hope the Judges are on top of their games today so that the scuzzys don't put anything over on them!

[kOOkie1]

I guess Im confused ..Why would the Anthony's or Casey tell anyone where Caylee's remains were??I would think they would have a better chance with reasonable doubt if the body had not been found. :confused:

[NYGalPal]

So, an employer said, you are fired because Casey Anthony says you took her kid, and even though the cops cleared you, we have to let you go. Yeah. Like she wouldn't be suing the crap out of her employer and causing so many suits against that company.Oh please stop making up stuff about her as if you can read her mind.

I think she'll win. She should. She didn't ask for this. Poor lady w/6 kids working day and night and gets thrown into this mess. Sheesh. Why do you even care? Does her suit affect you some way?

[witchywoman]

Gross.

I was just thinking about Zenaida Gonzalez who is suing Casey, speaking of people seeking fame.

First of all, isn't her name just Zenaida Gonzales, not Fernandez Gonzalez? And if Zenaida is so common in Florida in the Hispanic community why is not every Zenaida suing Casey? So this Zenaida cant get a job, maybe it has to do with her tattoos that are covering a vast part of her body, I mean what was the reason she couldn't gain employment prior to this?

Geez, wth does having tattoos have to do with anything? um, do u judge people by their appearance? gee whiz, pardon my typos and spelling

[Peaches]

[QUOTE=MiamiNice1;12630050]I'm kinda scratching my head over yesterday's events and had some questions (while we wait for the hearing today) Thanks in Advance!:

1) When PI Casey and PI Hoover filmed the spot where Caylee was found, was the bag there?

2) Were the PIs filming in the SAME spot Caylee was found?

3) Did the PIs see a bag there and then walk away?!

4) Are the PIs claiming there was NO bag in November and then Dec.11 there suddenly WAS a bag?

5) Is PI Casey still officially working for the Anthonys?



Hello..............good to see you!

My question is if they knew she was there why in this world would they leave her there like a piece of trash.

Where they afraid of the evidence that this precious child's body would provide.

[Stella Rose]

So, an employer said, you are fired because Casey Anthony says you took her kid, and even though the cops cleared you, we have to let you go. Yeah. Like she wouldn't be suing the crap out of her employer and causing so many suits against that company.

Does anyone here know if Florida is an "at will" state? I know here in Ohio, an employer can fire you for almost any reason (obviously not for a disability, gender, race, etc.), but if you miss work, are late too many times, whatever - you can be let go. If Fla. is like that as well, as I see it, she would have very little legal standing to sue her employer.

[margaritaville]

Um, I have k? And tell me why if she was fired for being the implicated ZENAIDA why is she not suing someone who actually has some money, like the EMPLOYER? I have looked at every interview, and no where does she say she was fired because of that, unless you want to prove I am wrong, since you are disputing it. TY
It has been listed as a reason for her lawsuit against Casey Anthony.
ZG getting FIRED from her job because of Casey.

If you have ever been a part of a civil suit you would know there are many steps to it. And just because she has not told that she is suing her previous employer doesn't mean she isn't going to.
I am sure this is the first step in her slue of lawsuits.

Casey first, employer second, possible others after that.

ZG is doing it exactly the way I would be if I were her.
Win the battle with Casey and she probably can settle out of court on all the others.....

MOO

Snip>>>>>>>
"We know this is the right one. They not only knew she was the right Zenaida, gave the names of her two children and type of car she drove. They knew the color of the car she drove. All given to them allegedly by Casey Anthony," Morgan said.

Morgan said his client's private life has been turned upside down. They want a settlement that could be partly paid out of the Anthony homeowner's insurance policy.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17553419/detail.html



http://www.shadowscope.com/archives/2008/09/zenaida_gonzalez_sues_casey_anthony.php

http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2008/09/zenaida-gonzalez-tells-channel-9-my.html

http://www.forthepeople.com/Zenaida_Gonzalez_Defamation_Suit.htm

http://missingandmurderedchildren.facesofthemissing.org/tag/zenaida-gonzalez/

[kOOkie1]

[I]..oops meant to thank Pooh for the Links..Thanks Pooh!! :biggrin:I]

[Pooh]

This is America, there are no other exceptions for employment, you either are, or you aren't. No where is it ok to be fired because of an implication, especially if its not true, and verified by LE. I have heard Zenaida says she CANT get a job, but never having been fired because of this.

In Employment-At-Will jobs (non-union) you can be fired for many things. My guess is that all of the publicity and threats made against her caused perfomance issues and maybe even absence problems. You can be fired for poor performance AND for absence problems and a host of other things.

[destiny1]

They can have their experts testify the time of death was months after her disappearance while Casey was in jail even, that is reasonable doubt but I don't think any jury will buy it.

They could say that until the cows come home. But, how do they explain the advanced decomp. Even in this climate, something more than what was retrieved of the remains would exist. Another strike.

[witchywoman]

Im out of here, have to go to work now , but will be back later to play catch up..

just thanking everyone ahead of time for the links, the info and keeping me informed on things...

[CANDYKISSES]

Oh please stop making up stuff about her as if you can read her mind.

I think she'll win. She should. She didn't ask for this. Poor lady w/6 kids working day and night and gets thrown into this mess. Sheesh. Why do you even care? Does her suit affect you some way?

I think she's going to win as well. SHE IS YET ANOTHER VICTIM of Casey IMO.

[Pooh]

I guess Im confused ..Why would the Anthony's or Casey tell anyone where Caylee's remains were??I would think they would have a better chance with reasonable doubt if the body had not been found. :confused:

She needs to be honest with her defense team so they can defend her. I'm sure she told Baez the entire story. I'm sure he insisted on it.

[SavannahStar]

Um, I have k? And tell me why if she was fired for being the implicated ZENAIDA why is she not suing someone who actually has some money, like the EMPLOYER? I have looked at every interview, and no where does she say she was fired because of that, unless you want to prove I am wrong, since you are disputing it. TY

Well now that's a point. Is she expecting to get money from Casey? George and Cindy? :laugh:

Far as I'm concerned she's just another one who is "trying to make money off this poor dead baby."

She sure has dollar signs in her eyes.

But back to your point, yeh I would think it would be a smarter idea to sue her former employer, if what she claims is true.

[CC I See]

This is America, there are no other exceptions for employment, you either are, or you aren't. No where is it ok to be fired because of an implication, especially if its not true, and verified by LE. I have heard Zenaida says she CANT get a job, but never having been fired because of this.

It depends..... some people who do services are independent contractors.... like yard services, maid services, repair services, painters. They pay their own taxes and run their own business. If this is the case, they can be let go for any reason if there is no signed legal contract. Many people where I live run their own housecleaning services and are not governed by normal employment rules. Although we don't know who she was working for, we also don't know if she was doing this that way.

[msgatorslayer]

Does anyone here know if Florida is an "at will" state? I know here in Ohio, an employer can fire you for almost any reason (obviously not for a disability, gender, race, etc.), but if you miss work, are late too many times, whatever - you can be let go. If Fla. is like that as well, as I see it, she would have very little legal standing to sue her employer.

Florida is a right to work state. People can get fired for varying reasons.

[MiamiNice1]

Hello..............good to see you!

My question is if they knew she was there why in this world would they leave her there like a piece of trash.

Where they afraid of the evidence that this precious child's body would provide.

{{{Peaches}}}, you're a sight for sore eyes! So nice to see you here!

Seems like everytime there is a "bombshell" - there seems to be more questions than any kind of resolution.

I suppose the the thought of the PIs walking away AFTER seeing a bag there is too repulsive and this is why everyone (the Talking Heads) is now thinking the bag was NOT there and the body moved there in December?

:crying:

[bballgrl]

In Employment-At-Will jobs (non-union) you can be fired for many things. My guess is that all of the publicity and threats made against her caused perfomance issues and maybe even absence problems. You can be fired for poor performance AND for absence problems and a host of other things.


IIRC - Zenaida said that she came in one day and her employer said : "We can't handle this kind of publicity, we have to let you go" or words to that effect. I do NOT have a link, so I stand to be corrected....

[Stella Rose]

Same here Lavenia.. only been to one Catholic service at a church.. the rest have been at funeral parlors.

Here (Oh.) it is pretty standard to have the wake/viewing at a funeral home for 2-3 days prior to burial. Usually there are presentations, photos, mementos, etc. and people mill about and talk to one another. The morning of the actual burial, the pall bearers will move the casket to the hearse, and everyone will go to the church for the formal service. After that people go on to the grave site where again, there is usually a short service. I've been to a lot of funerals and cannot think of one that deviated from this type of process.

[SavannahStar]

Geez, wth does having tattoos have to do with anything? um, do u judge people by their appearance? gee whiz, pardon my typos and spelling


Is this invisible ink? :confused:

:laugh:

[NYGalPal]

I think she's going to win as well. SHE IS YET ANOTHER VICTIM of Casey IMO.

I know, she will win. Just glad this yet another victim of Casey's is fighting back. :thumbsup:

[Peaches]

I'm Catholic, but other side of my family is Baptist. They generally do have a church service, whether it be right before leaving the funeral home at the "temple" within the funeral home or prefer to be taken to their own church and have the service, then off to the burial location.


Baptist have "chapels" at the funeral home.

Most receive family/friends at the funeral home for one or two days........then a service is held at their church or at the funeral home in the chapel...............after this a brief prayer/etc is conducted at the burial site........................

Very respectful..............very loving................sometimes family members speak

[really3997]

Does anyone here know if Florida is an "at will" state? I know here in Ohio, an employer can fire you for almost any reason (obviously not for a disability, gender, race, etc.), but if you miss work, are late too many times, whatever - you can be let go. If Fla. is like that as well, as I see it, she would have very little legal standing to sue her employer.

Yes it is an at will state

[Mairi II]

I think ZG is attempting to capitalize on the situation. I hardly think she's being turned away from jobs because of her name. Perhaps it's because of something else, like a poor work history - who knows. That said, though, I am glad that she's trying to capitalize... it's causing problems for Casey. Go for it, ZG!!

[destiny1]

[QUOTE=MiamiNice1;12630050]I'm kinda scratching my head over yesterday's events and had some questions (while we wait for the hearing today) Thanks in Advance!:

1) When PI Casey and PI Hoover filmed the spot where Caylee was found, was the bag there?

2) Were the PIs filming in the SAME spot Caylee was found?

3) Did the PIs see a bag there and then walk away?!

4) Are the PIs claiming there was NO bag in November and then Dec.11 there suddenly WAS a bag?

5) Is PI Casey still officially working for the Anthonys?



Hello..............good to see you!

My question is if they knew she was there why in this world would they leave her there like a piece of trash.

Where they afraid of the evidence that this precious child's body would provide.

If in fact they knew, they would also possibly have concerns about any crimminal liability although they personally IMO are not legally responsible except for any blatant interference in the active and ongoing investigations being conducted by the FBI and OCSD.

[shelbar53]

Hello all just a qucik post before I have to leave.

I was watching NG from last night and I heard. Lifetime movies has a 1.7 million dollar contract with the A's UNLESS they are indicted.

Oh sure the A's are going to become millionares and never have to work again and they can move to a bigger nicer house and drive nice cars.

Baez tried to **** a $500,000 interview deal with Casey.

There outta be a law aganist that!! :cursing:


I think the PI's were looking for the body for themselves..thinking BINGO they hit the jackpot with photos of it but they werent able to find the body. I dont think they were looking to "help the defense", but they did get "inside" info on where the body was.

I hope baez loses his license over this fiasco and the a's get indicted for something.

[msgatorslayer]

Well now that's a point. Is she expecting to get money from Casey? George and Cindy? :laugh:

Far as I'm concerned she's just another one who is "trying to make money off this poor dead baby."

She sure has dollar signs in her eyes.

But back to your point, yeh I would think it would be a smarter idea to sue her former employer, if what she claims is true.

Have you seen a billboard of Morgan dressed as Santa Claus?:biggrin:

I think her employer terminating her was completely legal otherwise, Morgan would sue them.

[SavannahStar]

MgGatorslayor and Mallory:

Here is a good link to an interview Zanaida and her lawyer did. She covers her job, how this all happened, the theory on how Casey stole her personal information, even the fact that on the apartment application at Sawgrass she used the nicknames of two of her 6 children and she says that only her family and relatives know these nicknames, yet Casey gave those nicknames to police.

Watch it. All of your questions will be answered.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17580338/index.html

January, good morning! Do you have a link real handy to where Casey gave LE the nicknames?

[MalloryCat]

Well now that's a point. Is she expecting to get money from Casey? George and Cindy? :laugh:

Far as I'm concerned she's just another one who is "trying to make money off this poor dead baby."

She sure has dollar signs in her eyes.

But back to your point, yeh I would think it would be a smarter idea to sue her former employer, if what she claims is true.

IF, she is not a Fernandez Gonzalez, which I dont think she is, this case is tossed, Casey did not implicate a Zenaida Gonzalez, she was specific about the Fernandez-Gonzalez, but none the less you are right, this chick is just looking for money, I am sure the stress of all this will get her on disability or something similar for the rest of her life, and she wont have to work.

Lucky her.

[Peaches]

It has been listed as a reason for her lawsuit against Casey Anthony.
ZG getting FIRED from her job because of Casey.

If you have ever been a part of a civil suit you would know there are many steps to it. And just because she has not told that she is suing her previous employer doesn't mean she isn't going to.
I am sure this is the first step in her slue of lawsuits.

Casey first, employer second, possible others after that.

ZG is doing it exactly the way I would be if I were her.
Win the battle with Casey and she probably can settle out of court on all the others.....

MOO

Snip>>>>>>>
"We know this is the right one. They not only knew she was the right Zenaida, gave the names of her two children and type of car she drove. They knew the color of the car she drove. All given to them allegedly by Casey Anthony," Morgan said.

Morgan said his client's private life has been turned upside down. They want a settlement that could be partly paid out of the Anthony homeowner's insurance policy.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17553419/detail.html



http://www.shadowscope.com/archives/2008/09/zenaida_gonzalez_sues_casey_anthony.php

http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2008/09/zenaida-gonzalez-tells-channel-9-my.html

http://www.forthepeople.com/Zenaida_Gonzalez_Defamation_Suit.htm

http://missingandmurderedchildren.facesofthemissing.org/tag/zenaida-gonzalez/


If Casey is 21, why would her parents be held responsible for what she does?

[MalloryCat]

I am wondering how come some people are just wanting to jump all over this woman and make her out like she is a money monger in all this. Again watch the video. Let me ask you this. If some crazy woman implicated you in a crime that you had nothing to do with, went on national television implicating you, and you started receiving death threats against your small kids, you would just sit back and say fine whatever??? I don't think so. Stop trying to vilify this woman for trying to protect her kids. At least she is protecting her kids, Casey freaking KILLED hers.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17580338/index.html

Hilarious.

Tell me this, if you are so worried about protecting your children, why do you start off at first concealing what you look like in interviews, and then decided to show the world exactly who you are?

[destiny1]

Hello all just a qucik post before I have to leave.

I was watching NG from last night and I heard. Lifetime movies has a 1.7 million dollar contract with the A's UNLESS they are indicted.

Oh sure the A's are going to become millionares and never have to work again and they can move to a bigger nicer house and drive nice cars.

Baez tried to **** a $500,000 interview deal with Casey.

There outta be a law aganist that!! :cursing:


I think the PI's were looking for the body for themselves..thinking BINGO they hit the jackpot with photos of it but they werent able to find the body. I dont think they were looking to "help the defense", but they did get "inside" info on where the body was.

I hope baez loses his license over this fiasco and the a's get indicted for something.

as my niece calls them soulless bloodsuckers. ! :cursing:


Maybe we will luck out and they will lose their shirts on production of any of these media. Maybe this economy will have a hidden blessing.

[?noanswer]

There is a motion filed regarding some misconduct during a jail visit correct? I couldn't figure out what this could likely be about then someone mentioned it was where Cindy was confronting Casey and Casey got upset. And I am wondering what LE could have had to do with that that would necessitate a motion. Then it occurred to me that maybe the defense's intention is to have it excluded as evidence in the trial because it appears the family was acting on behalf of LE. Make sense?

I have been thinking about that. Where did JB get his information as to what might have happened during that visit? Did KC tell him? If so and I were him, I would think twice before I made accusations. It would really be interesting to find out what whoppers KC has told him. JMO

[callmetree]

I hate to be the one to point this out but... the fact that we all gather here daily to discuss this case makes us all a clique. The whole entire group of us.. so how's about a group hug?
(ok, I may whack my own self for that :laugh:)

I don't know if Casey is required to appear but my guess would be no.

good post marsh. please don't whack yourself.:wink:

[gaelicpeas]

I'm kinda scratching my head over yesterday's events and had some questions (while we wait for the hearing today) Thanks in Advance!:

1) When PI Casey and PI Hoover filmed the spot where Caylee was found, was the bag there?
I don't think we have heard whether the bag was there or not.
2) Were the PIs filming in the SAME spot Caylee was found?
This is unclear.
3) Did the PIs see a bag there and then walk away?!
This is also unclear.
4) Are the PIs claiming there was NO bag in November and then Dec.11 there suddenly WAS a bag?
Lol, this is also unclear.
5) Is PI Casey still officially working for the Anthonys?
Yes, I believe so.
6) Why would Lenny Padilla say he was told all this back in November and then NOT SAY ANYTHING to authorities?
Lenny says that he told Nick Savage, the FBI agent.
imo

My answers in red above (although mainly all I said is we don't know!).

[MiamiNice1]

If in fact they knew, they would also possibly have concerns about any crimminal liability although they personally IMO are not legally responsible except for any blatant interference in the active and ongoing investigations being conducted by the FBI and OCSD.

Yes, you are probably right about that - as heinous as it would be.

After all the news yesterday, I guess I just wanted to get some of the information straight about what is really going on with that bag, the dates and the people involved.

[NYGalPal]

Well now that's a point. Is she expecting to get money from Casey? George and Cindy? :laugh:

Far as I'm concerned she's just another one who is "trying to make money off this poor dead baby."

She sure has dollar signs in her eyes.

But back to your point, yeh I would think it would be a smarter idea to sue her former employer, if what she claims is true.

Funny, you don't care the As are profitting off of their dead grand daughter.

Yeah ok.

:rolleyes:

[st777jo]

[QUOTE=SavannahStar;12630080]
Far as I'm concerned she's just another one who is "trying to make money off this poor dead baby."

She sure has dollar signs in her eyes.

QUOTE]

snipped

Wasn't this filed before Caylee was found?? She (Zenaida) did not know Caylee was dead to make money off a dead baby.

jmo, jo

[Mairi II]

I am wondering how come some people are just wanting to jump all over this woman and make her out like she is a money monger in all this. Again watch the video. Let me ask you this. If some crazy woman implicated you in a crime that you had nothing to do with, went on national television implicating you, and you started receiving death threats against your small kids, you would just sit back and say fine whatever??? I don't think so. Stop trying to vilify this woman for trying to protect her kids. At least she is protecting her kids, Casey freaking KILLED hers.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17580338/index.html

Calm down. Sheesh. You have your opinion on whether you feel she's being forthright and so do I. You obviously believe her; I, on the other hand, am skeptical.

But to answer your question, I likely would not sue because I don't see $ bills behind everything bad that happens to me. I would go to the police, yes. Sue, in all likelihood, no.

[NikkiG77058]

I think if they are charged or if they are given immunity it could be part of the deal that they wont profit from the case. At least I sure hope it will be!

ITA!! In exchange for immunity, it should be required that none of them can benefit financially from ANY of this!! Isn't there a law in place that prevents criminals from being able to profit off of books and stuff like that?? If so, even though I don't necessarily believe the A's participated in Caylee's death, they obviously did something or knew something or they wouldn't be seeking full immunity.

Enough is enough and I hope Judge S puts a stop to all of this ASAP!

IMO

[gaelicpeas]

Here are some links I have kept in a notepad file for this case. Hopefully some of them will become active once the hearing gets underway:

http://mfile.akamai.com/12909/live/reflector:53408.asx

link to WKMG-TV Orlando Channel 6 affiliate

http://mfile.akamai.com/25193/live/reflector:32415.asx

Fox 35 Orlando

http://www.wesh.com/video/16128463/index.html

WESH Channel 2 Orlando

http://mfile.akamai.com/12939/live/reflector:34407.asx

WFTV channel 9 Orlando
Thanks, Pooh!

[callmetree]

I agree, Cat. Maybe she was still in a probationary period and she missed to many days of work to be with LE or interview on TV. Whatever the case, Morgan would go after the company, if he could. You can bet on that, lmao.

was it in fact a company or a private family?:confused:

[destiny1]

Well now that's a point. Is she expecting to get money from Casey? George and Cindy? :laugh:

Far as I'm concerned she's just another one who is "trying to make money off this poor dead baby."

She sure has dollar signs in her eyes.

But back to your point, yeh I would think it would be a smarter idea to sue her former employer, if what she claims is true.

the attorneys plaintiffs defendants etc, et al and so on should all just form themselves a large queue leading to whoever it is they are targeting and send us a map so we can all keep up. This whole case has become nothing but a pile of moldy spaghetti.

[Stella Rose]

IF, she is not a Fernandez Gonzalez, which I dont think she is, this case is tossed, Casey did not implicate a Zenaida Gonzalez, she was specific about the Fernandez-Gonzalez, but none the less you are right, this chick is just looking for money, I am sure the stress of all this will get her on disability or something similar for the rest of her life, and she wont have to work.

Lucky her.

Lucky? No one tangled up in Casey's web is lucky. No one. You of all people should know that - seeing what she drug her parents through. She's doing the same thing to a stranger, and yet you criticize another of Casey's victims?

[st777jo]

I know, she will win. Just glad this yet another victim of Casey's is fighting back. :thumbsup:

I say good for Zenaida and Amy for fighting back.
jmo, jo

[msgatorslayer]

MgGatorslayor and Mallory:

Here is a good link to an interview Zanaida and her lawyer did. She covers her job, how this all happened, the theory on how Casey stole her personal information, even the fact that on the apartment application at Sawgrass she used the nicknames of two of her 6 children and she says that only her family and relatives know these nicknames, yet Casey gave those nicknames to police.

Watch it. All of your questions will be answered.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17580338/index.html

I'm still listening. Thanks for linking.

Where were ZFG's 2 kids during the Tampa car accident? LMAO

I'm confused. For some reason, I thought Casey, from the beginning, had said Zanny didn't have kids.

[MiamiNice1]

Originally Posted by MiamiNice1
I'm kinda scratching my head over yesterday's events and had some questions (while we wait for the hearing today) Thanks in Advance!:

1) When PI Casey and PI Hoover filmed the spot where Caylee was found, was the bag there?
I don't think we have heard whether the bag was there or not.

2) Were the PIs filming in the SAME spot Caylee was found?
This is unclear.

3) Did the PIs see a bag there and then walk away?!
This is also unclear.

4) Are the PIs claiming there was NO bag in November and then Dec.11 there suddenly WAS a bag?
Lol, this is also unclear.

5) Is PI Casey still officially working for the Anthonys?
Yes, I believe so.

6) Why would Lenny Padilla say he was told all this back in November and then NOT SAY ANYTHING to authorities?
Lenny says that he told Nick Savage, the FBI agent.

imo

My answers in red above (although mainly all I said is we don't know!).

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer, galicpeas!! :seeya:

Glad to know it wasn't just me who came away from yesterday's "bombshells" thinking.....we really learned nothing new.......just more questions!!

[destiny1]

No, she says it was a cleaning company. Something like Merry Maids maybe??? And they let her go because they did not want the negative publicity.

those services send their employees out into the community. I can not imagine having someone even vaguely connected to a kidnapping in my house near my family. I can see why she would not be able to continue in that kind of situation.

[funkyflower]

Baptist have "chapels" at the funeral home.

Most receive family/friends at the funeral home for one or two days........then a service is held at their church or at the funeral home in the chapel...............after this a brief prayer/etc is conducted at the burial site........................

Very respectful..............very loving................sometimes family members speak

Thanks, didn't know what the funeral home called it. I know most of my family have always went to their church after the standard visitation is over, but I have on occasion been in the funeral home chapel.

We have visitation as well as Catholics at funeral homes also, but go to our church for service, then another service graveside, and sometimes another opening (if possible) for viewing before the burial.

[Roux]

No, both of you are wrong about this woman. She is not looking for money. She is looking to clear her name.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17580338/index.html

thanks for the link January. It was good to refresh my memory on this interview.

[SavannahStar]

Have you seen a billboard of Morgan dressed as Santa Claus?:biggrin:

I think her employer terminating her was completely legal otherwise, Morgan would sue them.


:laugh: I heard about the billboard. Don't get me started on John Morgan.

I recall Casey's interview at Universal, I think that's the one...seems like the detectives were asking her about Z and children and she said Z had NO children. They pursued this a bit, I guess thinking maybe Z was "jealous" of Casey's being a mother...they were asking her if she knew if Z could have children......Casey said she didn't know, it never came up. Remember that?

So what's with the nicknames of Z's kids then? When she said Z had no kids? At least that is what I am remembering.

[NYGalPal]

I say good for Zenaida and Amy for fighting back.
jmo, jo

You are right. :thumbsup:

[JHP]

Just watch the video, sweetie. She and her lawyer are right here answering every question you have about Zenaida Gonzalez. Also watch the eyes. They both are telling the truth. What Casey did to this woman and her children is in my book identity theft. It's dispicable.

I think the main reason Zanieda should persist is they need to stop using her. She had nothing to do with any kidnapping. Cindy said there are thousands of Zaneida Fernandez Gonzaless in FL. That is simply not true.
Defense needs to pick another theory and quick.

JMO

[bballgrl]

I say good for Zenaida and Amy for fighting back.
jmo, jo


I am with you. I believe she knows that Casey has nothing and that she just wants her to be held responsible for tarnishing her name. I for one have never heard of Zenaida Gonzalez before this case and probably never would have. Casey should be held responsible. I believe that if all she wanted was Monetary Compensation, she may have gone after the employer. In this case, she wants the public to know she is in NO WAY involved with Casey Anthony or this case. This is a good way to do that. This is strictly MOO

[aubrey04]

Lucky? No one tangled up in Casey's web is lucky. No one. You of all people should know that - seeing what she drug her parents through. She's doing the same thing to a stranger, and yet you criticize another of Casey's victims?

Good point. Although I have no idea how ZG will fair in the courts - I have no doubt her life has been turned upside down. I've said it before and I will say it again.. imagine having the name Zenaida Gonzalez and living in Orlando, Florida.

Casey tried to pin Caylee's disappearance on someone else and it backfired on her.. Casey deserves everything she gets. imo.

[kitty1182]

I will not be here to watch at 11 this morning..I hope there is someway I can see the ruling later..:sad:

[MalloryCat]

I think the main reason Zanieda should persist is they need to stop using her. She had nothing to do with any kidnapping. Cindy said there are thousands of Zaneida Fernandez Gonzaless in FL. That is simply not true.
Defense needs to pick another theory and quick.

JMO


Ok, there are a ton of Zeniada Gonzales, it is a common Hispanic name, you cant base your info on sites like, how many people have this name in the US, they are not accurate whatsoever.

[NYGalPal]

No, both of you are wrong about this woman. She is not looking for money. She is looking to clear her name.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17580338/index.html

Great link. Sure wish when victims are trashed via the net can sue.

[callmetree]

I know, she will win. Just glad this yet another victim of Casey's is fighting back. :thumbsup:

i agree nygal. she may not get a dime but she will have won a moral victory. if by chance she were to get any money i would much rather her get it than baez or the anthonys. JMOO:thumbup: