Tuesday Jan 6th. - Part 2

[cuddlyrunner]

Time for a new thread :-)

[Lavenia]

YooHoo! Anyone here? :tonguewag:

ETA: Anyone know anything new about what's going on regarding the death penalty? Is it back on the table? Is there a time-line left for negotiations?

[cuddlyrunner]

just thee and me so far :-)

I hope they release Caylee for burial soon (the Anthonys I mean)

[Elfinrow]

I got lost on the doc link (my own lnk lol) and the video links from today's "hearing" Im still trying to figure out what Baez was doing at that table; was he tying his shoe or what?? So distracting as usual every time he goes before the judge he seems like an amateur.
Absolutely! Thanks again Cury for the link! Reposting for new thread

http://www.wftv.com/video/18421744/index.html

[Lavenia]

just thee and me so far :-)

I hope they release Caylee for burial soon (the Anthonys I mean)

I hope so too. I think it would do them all a world of good.

[marinewife5]

ty for the new thread cuddlyrunner.

i can't stop thinking about the MR and the PI's.

[jammies]

thanks, cuddly.

Didn't want you to be lonely over here!

[cuddlyrunner]

What IS Baez doing at that table??? About to go down on his knees to pray for help????

[martha]

I am here I want to read what all of you have to say. I try to keep up but it is hard sometimes. Sorry if I ask something that you all have already gone over. you all have a very good day. love you all. jmho

[WillowInFlight]

YooHoo! Anyone here? :tonguewag:

ETA: Anyone know anything new about what's going on regarding the death penalty? Is it back on the table? Is there a time-line left for negotiations?

I don't believe it is back on the table. I have a feeling it won't ever be.

[cuddlyrunner]

I've gone blank-is garcia on the Baez team??

[Lavenia]

I don't believe it is back on the table. I have a feeling it won't ever be.

I think you are right. I don't think we'll see it again either. Personally, I don't want her to get the DP but I wouldn't mind if she had the fear of it.

[cuddlyrunner]

Thanks Runner!


ps. loved your pics, the light house in the background is awesome.

Thank you-it's on Plymouth Hoe-just up the road from where the Pilgrims sailed to America.


Aw, poor Caylee won't ever have a Kindergarten trip :-(

Such a waste of a young life

[bchand]

YooHoo! Anyone here? :tonguewag:

ETA: Anyone know anything new about what's going on regarding the death penalty? Is it back on the table? Is there a time-line left for negotiations?

Present ! I heard Lavenia was talking about us over here.

No word yet on the death penalty.

[happy2bme]

I am here I want to read what all of you have to say. I try to keep up but it is hard sometimes. Sorry if I ask something that you all have already gone over. you all have a very good day. love you all. jmho

That goes for me too Martha. I haven't been able to keep up since the holidays. Now that they are over I hope I can. You have a good day as well.

[bchand]

I got lost on the doc link (my own lnk lol) and the video links from today's "hearing" Im still trying to figure out what Baez was doing at that table; was he tying his shoe or what?? So distracting as usual every time he goes before the judge he seems like an amateur.
Absolutely! Thanks again Cury for the link! Reposting for new thread

http://www.wftv.com/video/18421744/index.html

Jose Baez wasn't there AFAIK.

[cuddlyrunner]

Thanks for reposting macdadddy-was just going to pm you to do that.

I think the writing of her name as Tony's future wife shows her immaturity. It is the behaviour of a 12 year old.

i hadn't heard any mention before today of her saying that she weighed similar weights to Caylee. Could she really be that desperate as to be jealous of her own daughter getting the attention from her mother?

[Motomom]

I'm here, with my overnight bag.. Pulling this post from the last thread, not sure how to did it properly..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Motomom
Oh well, before you or anyone else moves on i have a question. With MPD, do the alternate personalities remember what they have said or done? i think we would have seen one of the personalities come out andI haven't seen that. But with someone with mpd, would an alternate know that they were in trouble and not come out? I hope I made sense.

I suppose that would fall under "every case is different". All I'm saying is that every case is different and some of the things I am seeing and hearing in Casey points to Multiples.
BBL though. Gotta go.
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Red is January..

I'm just really curious about this MPD thing.. I understand all cases are different..but is there anything typical? In general? I'm just wondering if someone with alternater personalities..if those personalities would go into hiding? the movie Identity was about this and thats about as far as my knowledge goes LOL

[breezie]

What IS Baez doing at that table??? About to go down on his knees to pray for help????

that is Garcia, his partner. I think he's hiding from the embarrassment of being dressed down by a Judge for bringing the Profession to a new low.

[Lavenia]

Present ! I heard Lavenia was talking about us over here.

No word yet on the death penalty.

Where's that angel smilie? :wink:

I agree with Willow that they probably won't put the DP back on the table. I can't imagine them taking it off and then putting it back on. It will be interesting if they do!

[Lavenia]

Oh come on, I am not convinced myself of this diagnosis but it is pretty well known that most producers use qualified licensed doctors as consults in writing these stories. It is not off the wall that you can glean some real information from a tv show. Albeit not a fair equal representation, but an idea of what it is.

I've never watched a soap opera but I would think if the real life story of Casey Marie Anthony was on one, it would be unbelievable.

[aubrey04]

That shocks me. Whatever happened to personal responsibility and ethics. Seems like we've been talking about that lately.

But I respect your opinion.

Passive-aggressive. Yes, let's talk about personal responsibility and ethics.. In fact, let's talk about Cindy and George Anthony's personal responsibility and ethics. This should get interesting.
Hmm so their granddaughter is "missing" for 31 days. Cindy pens a blog talking about how her Caylee is missing and has been taken from her on July 3rd. Almost 2 weeks later - they get a call that Casey's car has been in the impound. They go get the car and it smells like a dead body. According to both George and Cindy - they are BOTH familiar with the smell of decomposition. Cindy is a nurse. George used to work in LE. They both have smelled "the smell".. They both smell what appears to be a dead body.. George goes to open the trunk.. He says he prays that he doesn't find Caylee or Casey back there.. The odor is so bad that George has to drive home with the windows unrolled even though it is raining outside. The odor is so bad that when he begins speaking about it to LE -- he has to leave the room and go vomit.

But... after they pick up the car.. they go home... Clean out the trunk. Cindy washes the clothing in the trunk. Cindy allegedly gives a hairbrush used by BOTH casey and caylee to LE, instead of Caylee's hairbrush.

They lie. All the lies. To LE, to the media, to the public.

Yes, I like people to take personal responsibility and have ethics too.

Savannah, do you only want people besides the Anthony to take personal responsibility and have ethics?

[smileyjoe]

Thanks MacDaddy.

Uh huh, uh huh.

What a wicked relationship CA and KC have.

Bet KC gets in a good snicker at least once a day. With re-living the pain CA has been in.

Why did CA play along with it?

KC played a good game. Check and mate.

Joe.

[smileyjoe]

Thanks for reposting macdadddy-was just going to pm you to do that.

I think the writing of her name as Tony's future wife shows her immaturity. It is the behaviour of a 12 year old.

i hadn't heard any mention before today of her saying that she weighed similar weights to Caylee. Could she really be that desperate as to be jealous of her own daughter getting the attention from her mother?


Absolutely (dreaded word).

Joe.

[WillowInFlight]

Where's that angel smilie? :wink:

I agree with Willow that they probably won't put the DP back on the table. I can't imagine them taking it off and then putting it back on. It will be interesting if they do!

I think a conviction would be easier with it off the table, which suits me fine. I just hope she lives to be 100.

[happy2bme]

IMO this chick was so angry at her Mother, for holding her back from what she really wantedout of life, plus the daily mental beat down she was getting..( Caylee was a mistake, but she is your mistake)....add to the mix the fact that Cindy paid for everything and probably threw it into Casey's face. Also.....Caylee was Cindy's 2nd chance at raising a daughter in her image. Cindy failed with Casey, but she would not fail with Caylee. Also...Casey had no father figure...no one to put the hammer down on her. Listen to the jail visits.....he calls her endearing names, instead of jumping through the telephone to get the truth out of her.

Sorry to answer your question in such a round about way.....but it was a myriad of things that doomed Caylee. Jealousy was just a part of it

dysfunction!!!:glare:

[bchand]

Passive-aggressive. Yes, let's talk about personal responsibility and ethics.. In fact, let's talk about Cindy and George Anthony's personal responsibility and ethics. This should get interesting.
Hmm so their granddaughter is "missing" for 31 days. Cindy pens a blog talking about how her Caylee is missing and has been taken from her on July 3rd. Almost 2 weeks later - they get a call that Casey's car has been in the impound. They go get the car and it smells like a dead body. According to both George and Cindy - they are BOTH familiar with the smell of decomposition. Cindy is a nurse. George used to work in LE. They both have smelled "the smell".. They both smell what appears to be a dead body.. George goes to open the trunk.. He says he prays that he doesn't find Caylee or Casey back there.. The odor is so bad that George has to drive home with the windows unrolled even though it is raining outside. The odor is so bad that when he begins speaking about it to LE -- he has to leave the room and go vomit.

But... after they pick up the car.. they go home... Clean out the trunk. Cindy washes the clothing in the trunk. Cindy allegedly gives a hairbrush used by BOTH casey and caylee to LE, instead of Caylee's hairbrush.

They lie. All the lies. To LE, to the media, to the public.

Yes, I like people to take personal responsibility and have ethics too.

Savannah, do you only want people besides the Anthony to take personal responsibility and have ethics?

Excellent post aubrey IMO.

:::::jeopardy music::::::

[MalloryCat]

Smileyjoe posed a question as to the Tony angle....in "Part one"

MY response was:

1. Cindy has a very competitive nature against her daughter; something Casey has grown up with, and has always lost---especially since Caylee preferred Cindy over Casey. Cindy gave the baby everything, not just love, but also all the popcorn and peanuts that tends to bend the attention of the baby away from her mother, and puts all the love to the Grandmother.

2. Cindy and Casey face off and argue often many, many times in life, and are bored of it unless one of them draws blood, and when one or the other is really hurt, the adrenaline for both of them flow and they both relish it when one or the other gets hurt.

3. Cindy knows how to push Caseys buttons and does so often. She wants control over Caylee, like she needs to have control over every other family member as well as people that is familiar to the family. This is why Cindy has no close friends in her neighborhood. She cant have friends, she only has people that she can berate and control.

4. Casey does not know any other way to get under her mothers skin then to do everything she can that is polar opposite of what Cindy would do. Casey sleeps around and steals money from everyone Cindy knows. Cindy has never shown Casey any love, except when Caylee is around. Casey knows how to get at Cindy.all she needs to do is keep the baby away from her. And she does this well.

5. Casey realizes that she has to have a place to live and money to live on. She cant find work and she really does not want to work. Money is not a problem because she has gotten really good at stealing money from everyone. The problem is a place to live and what to do with the baby. She tries numerous boyfriends but the problem is still the baby. She hates the fact that she had a baby, a baby that her mother would not let her give up for adoption. Casey starts to hang with a younger crowd as she tries desperately to find an avenue in which to live. The problem is that she cannot go out at night and party if the baby is in the picture and she WILL NOT let her mother win and take the baby.

6. Enter Tony. To Casey, Tony is a way out. She even writes on a piece of notebook paper her first name with Tony's last name..like a high school girl would. Only one problem. Tony serves a need...Housing and sex. But he stated to her that he wanted kids, but boys. This is the point at which she hates that baby even more. That baby is in the way of her living "La Bella Vita". If The baby was out of the way, then she could marry Tony, hurt her mother, and live the good life.
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Sorry for the re-post folks....but I don't know if the part one is closing or not

Interesting perspective, but I am pretty sure she got the tat because Lindsay Lohan got one, she followed celebs, she was an event planner after all.

She slept at Ricardos all the time, she could have used him, and in fact went there when Tony was at school, she was running from her mom because she killed and tossed her baby in the woods.

And there are friends who say she wanted the baby, so the stories conflict.

[Lavenia]

I think a conviction would be easier with it off the table, which suits me fine. I just hope she lives to be 100.

Same here. A hard 100. Some taxes are worth paying.

[smileyjoe]

Cindy played along with it because of the relationship she had with Caylee....she had to. Or else Casey might get married again and move away...with the kid. That thought must have kept Cindy awake at night in cold sweats. Listen to the FBI and OCSO reviews....every boyfriend Casey had was thrown under the bus by Cindy, even Jesse, probably the nicest and best kid out of the bunch

I think ESPECIALLY Jesse. For that reason.

Good thoughts.

Joe.

[MalloryCat]

ok....Lindsay Lohan???......did not know that...but it figures she would look up to her I guess. She ran back to Ricardos when Tony was in NY IIRC.....she could not go home at that point, things have gotten too out of control with Cindy at that point.

Well, she was calling up Cindy everyday telling her she may bring Caylee home, and Cindy sat and waited, never went on vacation, waited, and when she would leave Casey would sneak in and steal groceries to feed Tony.

jmo

[Cury-us Coyote]

Casey Anthony connects to outside world the old-fashioned way

But the most high-profile inmate at the Orange County Jail gets most of her news the old-fashioned way -- on a small transistor radio from inside her 7-by-12 foot cell in the county's female detention center.

"[Anthony] has very limited access to the outside world," jail spokesman Allen Moore said. "She's not watching Nancy Grace."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-media-access-010608,0,2182241.story

[5boxersmom]

I don't think LL's tattoo and Casey's are the same one.

jmo

[marinewife5]

IMO this chick was so angry at her Mother, for holding her back from what she really wantedout of life, plus the daily mental beat down she was getting..( Caylee was a mistake, but she is your mistake)....add to the mix the fact that Cindy paid for everything and probably threw it into Casey's face. Also.....Caylee was Cindy's 2nd chance at raising a daughter in her image. Cindy failed with Casey, but she would not fail with Caylee. Also...Casey had no father figure...no one to put the hammer down on her. Listen to the jail visits.....he calls her endearing names, instead of jumping through the telephone to get the truth out of her.

Sorry to answer your question in such a round about way.....but it was a myriad of things that doomed Caylee. Jealousy was just a part of it


i wonder if cindy's many many camera appearances were done to spite casey...she knew it bugged her from their jailhouse phone call. i think their mother/daughter dynamic explains more of this case than we realize. jmo

[Motomom]

I think a conviction would be easier with it off the table, which suits me fine. I just hope she lives to be 100.

either way it doesn't matter to me. i'd be happy to see it on the table, if not.. like you I hope she lives to see 100. However, I think that she will find herself quite at home in prison. I think she's going to do well there myself.

[cuddlyrunner]

Casey Anthony connects to outside world the old-fashioned way

But the most high-profile inmate at the Orange County Jail gets most of her news the old-fashioned way -- on a small transistor radio from inside her 7-by-12 foot cell in the county's female detention center.

"[Anthony] has very limited access to the outside world," jail spokesman Allen Moore said. "She's not watching Nancy Grace."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-media-access-010608,0,2182241.story


I wonder if she has convinced herself (with Jose's help ) that she will really be believed and that public opinion will be swayed. If she doesn't see the tv, who knows what he is saying to her?

[WillowInFlight]

i wonder if cindy's many many camera appearances were done to spite casey...she knew it bugged her from their jailhouse phone call. i think their mother/daughter dynamic explains more of this case than we realize. jmo

I think you hit the nail on the head. It's not like Cindy used those outlets to make a plea to the kidnappers.

[Lavenia]

Casey Anthony connects to outside world the old-fashioned way

But the most high-profile inmate at the Orange County Jail gets most of her news the old-fashioned way -- on a small transistor radio from inside her 7-by-12 foot cell in the county's female detention center.

"[Anthony] has very limited access to the outside world," jail spokesman Allen Moore said. "She's not watching Nancy Grace."

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-media-access-010608,0,2182241.story

She needs to get her news the real old fashioned way; by tapping on the pipes and hoping someone taps back.

[NYGalPal]

YooHoo! Anyone here? :tonguewag:

ETA: Anyone know anything new about what's going on regarding the death penalty? Is it back on the table? Is there a time-line left for negotiations?

Good questions. I've not heard, but I hope they put it back on the table. Not sure about the timeline. Is there an expiration date?

[Cury-us Coyote]

Judge scolds Casey Anthony's attorneys

Anthony's attorney wants the judge to postpone Monday's deposition until her criminal case is complete. A hearing is expected this week but no date has been set yet.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-010609,0,7477088.story

[*MoonRider*]

She needs to get her news the real old fashioned way; by tapping on the pipes and hoping someone taps back.

How bout some fishing :thumbup:

[WillowInFlight]

either way it doesn't matter to me. i'd be happy to see it on the table, if not.. like you I hope she lives to see 100. However, I think that she will find herself quite at home in prison. I think she's going to do well there myself.

I just don't know, I'm not even sure if she is aware that she will never be free again. If that was me, that thought would be sending me over the edge.

[martha]

I have watched the soap someone was talking about and it it crazy. they all stay so pretty all the time even when they first get up. they all marrie everyone on the show and all still stay friends now do you think in real life we could marry our husband brother or sister or any ex in the family and all stay friends. it is really funny to me and vickie and nickie and all that other mess is just made up. That don;t happen in real life.jmho sorry for being o.t jmho

[Neffy]

I don't believe it is back on the table. I have a feeling it won't ever be.

You think? I must say I think they just may if the evidence is there.

[Calla]

following up with the mpd/did/ stuff..

not that I believe it is the case. I could never commit to something like that without all the info, and then it would be a stretch for me to fully believe.

But we all probably know it has been studied and is said to generally stem from some horrific incident. For one..I don't know what horrific incidents Casey may have been party to or victim of. George did mention, or it was reported that he did, that there was an 'illness' in the family somewhere.(personally I wish that had not been said or reported..jmo)
Second..I do not find her denial of her pregnancy to her mother unusual. It happens all the time (& happened to me)
But depending on the extent of that denial..it does make me wonder if Casey denied it or some other alter personality denied it. Maybe Casey didn't even get pregnant!:ohmy: Maybe it was someone else.



It is interesting to consider it, and I am wondering at this point if the defense has or will.
It is just so difficult to think that she led those officers all over the place claiming a job.
I think I will go read some more docs and listen to some more videos..LOL..
My mind has obviously completed processing all that I have read so far.:tongue:

[Lavenia]

Good questions. I've not heard, but I hope they put it back on the table. Not sure about the timeline. Is there an expiration date?

I know there was a time line when the prosecution had to take it off the table. That came and went but I don't know how they would go about reinstating it now that there is more evidence (Caylee's remains specifically). :shrug:

[kitty1182]

She needs to get her news the real old fashioned way; by tapping on the pipes and hoping someone taps back.

:biggrin::biggrin:


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[martha]

I don;t watch it anymore it is so crazy. so unbelievable. just made up stuff to help keep people watching it.it is really crazy.jhmo

[WillowInFlight]

I have watched the soap someone was talking about and it it crazy. they all stay so pretty all the time even when they first get up. they all marrie everyone on the show and all still stay friends now do you think in real life we could marry our husband brother or sister or any ex in the family and all stay friends. it is really funny to me and vickie and nickie and all that other mess is just made up. That don;t happen in real life.jmho sorry for being o.t jmho

Thats why it's called a soap opera. I wonder if Casey watched any.

[Lavenia]

How bout some fishing :thumbup:

Fishing and kiting! She'll learn the ropes! :lol:

[5boxersmom]

I think it is actually.

http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tattoo/celeb-lohan.htm

LL's is La Bella Vita.




http://hubpages.com/hub/Tattoo_Ideas_Italian_Words_Phrases

Casey's is Bella Vita.

jmo

[ishkabibble]

i wonder if cindy's many many camera appearances were done to spite casey...she knew it bugged her from their jailhouse phone call. i think their mother/daughter dynamic explains more of this case than we realize. jmo

that dynamic is a major part of this case.. Casey calls from jail and you would think Cindy would beg her to help find Caylee, but all the tears from the day before are gone and Cindy taunts her with "which cameo, I did 4" only Christine even bothers to mention Caylee. As a matter of fact, outside of the 911 call when Cindy is clearly frantic, Christine is the only person who expresses any fear for Caylee's safety. Casey bascially mocks her for it.

[Neffy]

Isnt there a time limit on whether they can change that?

Not to my knowledge.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Judge Delays Hearing In Civil Case Involving Casey Anthony
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18420869/detail.html
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18422545/index.html

IMO, seated female is probably fox reporter Holly.

[ishkabibble]

It served 2 purposes I think in Cindy's mind. It irritated Casey and it swayed the public away from thinking that Casey killed her. Cindy is a manipulator of the highest order.....and she is not stupid. Although when she gets backed into a corner, she keeps on the same argument when she knows it is lost. The Larry King interview was proof of that.

Casey has that fault also, as seen in her interview with Yuri Melich and John Allen, re: Zenaida

[Lavenia]

I think someone needs to toss the latest edition of National Enquirer into her cell. She can read about how she's found her way back to God. :rolleyes:

OMG, I bought one of those while my computer was in the shop last week and it said that Casey was yelling that she wants a new baby sister for Caylee and is yelling that to the jail staff. :rolleyes:

(Remind me to save my money next time!)

[WillowInFlight]

Again, They're flown in & out courtesy of the show. They're put up in a hotel, courtesy of the show. They're driven to & from the location, courtesy of the show.

But I'm sure you already know this.

True that. I wonder if Cindy and George will appear on Dr. Phil?

[marinewife5]

It served 2 purposes I think in Cindy's mind. It irritated Casey and it swayed the public away from thinking that Casey killed her. Cindy is a manipulator of the highest order.....and she is not stupid. Although when she gets backed into a corner, she keeps on the same argument when she knows it is lost. The Larry King interview was proof of that.

i definately see a love/hate relationship with those two. i think casey is the one who put caylee in the middle of it, but i blame cindy as well for playing the game. ugh. i wonder if casey thinks she's won?

jmo

and gail st. john called to tell me you have a pm. (J/K...but you really do have a pm)

[NYGalPal]

She needs to get her news the real old fashioned way; by tapping on the pipes and hoping someone taps back.

Good one. Got a good laugh over this. :lol:

[Calla]

Thats why it's called a soap opera. I wonder if Casey watched any.

No I am sure she only watched cooking shows with her dad & quickly left before mom got home each day.

[marinewife5]

Again, They're flown in & out courtesy of the show. They're put up in a hotel, courtesy of the show. They're driven to & from the location, courtesy of the show.

But I'm sure you already know this.

Often the media (especially national TV shows) will cover your accommodations if you ask. Producers often have funds for this, but they will not offer it to a guest unless you ask the following question: "Do you have a budget for guest accommodations or discounts with local hotels?"
http://www.authorsandspeakersnetwork.com/susanharrow4.html

[NYGalPal]

No she wasn't.

Who? Casey? No, she wasn't anything.

[ishkabibble]

casey was only getting what she could from the radio....and maybe Baez's blow by blow...cindy and she didnt talk about it so how else would she know details...???

casey knew Caylees safety was moot from the get go ....while still SAYING that she was kidnapped......geez

at the time of the call Casey had access to tv. She told CIndy to put Lee on the phone, I saw Mallory's car in the driveway, the news is live outside the house.

[bchand]

Judge scolds Casey Anthony's attorneys

Anthony's attorney wants the judge to postpone Monday's deposition until her criminal case is complete. A hearing is expected this week but no date has been set yet.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-010609,0,7477088.story

Odd, Wesh said the judge set Thursday for the hearing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html

[aubrey04]

Again, They're flown in & out courtesy of the show. They're put up in a hotel, courtesy of the show. They're driven to & from the location, courtesy of the show.

But I'm sure you already know this.

Wasn't it reported that Larry King's show pay for the hotel AND dinner that George and Cindy had at the expensive hotel and restaurant when the search warrants were being done on their house?

So don't forget that not only was lodging and transportation provided, but food too.

[Neffy]

Judge Delays Hearing In Civil Case Involving Casey Anthony
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18420869/detail.html
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18422545/index.html

IMO, seated female is probably fox reporter Holly.

"The judge also issued a strict warning to the attorneys, advising them not to engage in personal attacks. In a motion to postpone the deposition, the defense accused John Morgan's law firm of representing Zenaida Gonzalez to gain publicity. They cited a billboard that shows Morgan dressed as Santa Claus and says, "Santa Claus is 'For The People' Merry Christmas" as an example."

O M G !

[breezie]

Often the media (especially national TV shows) will cover your accommodations if you ask. Producers often have funds for this, but they will not offer it to a guest unless you ask the following question: "Do you have a budget for guest accommodations or discounts with local hotels?"
http://www.authorsandspeakersnetwork.com/susanharrow4.html


and you KNOW Cindy asked for it. And water. You know she only eats at the Ritz and drinks water, right?

[legalmania]

Does anyone know when Casey was on her shopping spree did she buy anything for Caylee? I know she was at the grocery store did she buy her favorite cookies or when at blockbuster did she get a tape for Caylee?

[velvetbrown]

Hey Ya'll,
Sitting in carpool line w my laptop trying to catch up...how sad is that!...Nice to see everyone :)

[bchand]

Often the media (especially national TV shows) will cover your accommodations if you ask. Producers often have funds for this, but they will not offer it to a guest unless you ask the following question: "Do you have a budget for guest accommodations or discounts with local hotels?"
http://www.authorsandspeakersnetwork.com/susanharrow4.html

Which, I'm sure was Larry Garrison's role. He had alot of experience there.

[breezie]

"The judge also issued a strict warning to the attorneys, advising them not to engage in personal attacks. In a motion to postpone the deposition, the defense accused John Morgan's law firm of representing Zenaida Gonzalez to gain publicity. They cited a billboard that shows Morgan dressed as Santa Claus and says, "Santa Claus is 'For The People' Merry Christmas" as an example."

O M G !


LOL...pot. meet kettle. I guess all that money Casey's paying Baez is the reason he's working for her. Where's the lightening when you need it!?

[Lavenia]

Hey Ya'll,
Sitting in carpool line w my laptop trying to catch up...how sad is that!...Nice to see everyone :)

Hey Velvet! Not sad at all, IMO. Good to see you! Did you see the slapdown Baez got from the judge?

ETA: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-010609,0,7477088.story

[marshmallow]

Seems like the last vestige of control they feel they have in this case.

in a way we could say the same of Casey. She finally has all the control over the people around her. By not talking she not only has the attention she craves but also has control no one can take from her. She controls everyone by not telling anyone the truth about Caylee's demise. Should she choose to speak, she will have undivided attention, no matter what she says. In a sense she controls Cindy now.

[SavannahStar]

I'm back. Just gone for a few minutes. There is a case where the alternates "went into hiding" as you put it for several years and then came out again. What triggered it was some emotional trauma that this woman (the core persona) had experienced, she could not handle it and her alternates emerged to handle it for her. So yes, it is possible. And don't ask me for a link. The case was Chris Seizemore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Costner-Sizemore

I heard her speak at a college psychology class many years ago.

[5boxersmom]

"The judge also issued a strict warning to the attorneys, advising them not to engage in personal attacks. In a motion to postpone the deposition, the defense accused John Morgan's law firm of representing Zenaida Gonzalez to gain publicity. They cited a billboard that shows Morgan dressed as Santa Claus and says, "Santa Claus is 'For The People' Merry Christmas" as an example."

O M G !

Sounds like the defense is jealous.

:smile:

jmo

[ishkabibble]

thanks....these timelines are getting so totally convoluted.....I wonder just how Casey managed to hold out on going ballistic on Cindy then..???

she was more anxious to speak to Tony just then, after all he was her boyfriend and she hadn't had a chance to talk to him all day, cause those cops were taking her all over looking for her missing daughter. And then they arrested her on a F*****g whim!! The nerve.

[NYGalPal]

Yes, I suppose I hallucinated the Anthony's themselves acknowledging that information. And so did everyone else here. Once again I am not going to provide my time to search for links for you when you clearly have an agenda to argue insignificant already well known facts.

Scooby doesn't know how to look up the info on her own so she states with every nic the info doesn't exist. It is all right here on the link thread. Maybe CW can help her find the door where the info it?

[Cury-us Coyote]

Odd, Wesh said the judge set Thursday for the hearing.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html

IMO, Orange Co Court site not updated yet.

[legalmania]

Casey bought nothing for a child while on her 'shopping spree.'

Wonder why not? Never mind I know the answer.

[5boxersmom]

she was more anxious to speak to Tony just then, after all he was her boyfriend and she hadn't had a chance to talk to him all day, cause those cops were taking her all over looking for her missing daughter. And then they arrested her on a F*****g whim!! The nerve.

Then she called TonE and he hung up on her. I love it. :lol:

jmo

[velvetbrown]

[QUOTE=Lavenia;12622985]Hey Velvet! Not sad at all, IMO. Good to see you! Did you see the slapdown Baez got

No :(, Sorry I missed that! No news from the A's or KC?

[rambo55]

Passive-aggressive. Yes, let's talk about personal responsibility and ethics.. In fact, let's talk about Cindy and George Anthony's personal responsibility and ethics. This should get interesting.
Hmm so their granddaughter is "missing" for 31 days. Cindy pens a blog talking about how her Caylee is missing and has been taken from her on July 3rd. Almost 2 weeks later - they get a call that Casey's car has been in the impound. They go get the car and it smells like a dead body. According to both George and Cindy - they are BOTH familiar with the smell of decomposition. Cindy is a nurse. George used to work in LE. They both have smelled "the smell".. They both smell what appears to be a dead body.. George goes to open the trunk.. He says he prays that he doesn't find Caylee or Casey back there.. The odor is so bad that George has to drive home with the windows unrolled even though it is raining outside. The odor is so bad that when he begins speaking about it to LE -- he has to leave the room and go vomit.

But... after they pick up the car.. they go home... Clean out the trunk. Cindy washes the clothing in the trunk. Cindy allegedly gives a hairbrush used by BOTH casey and caylee to LE, instead of Caylee's hairbrush.

They lie. All the lies. To LE, to the media, to the public.

Yes, I like people to take personal responsibility and have ethics too.

Savannah, do you only want people besides the Anthony to take personal responsibility and have ethics?


Great post Aubrey!:thumbsup:

[Lavenia]

Then she called TonE and he hung up on her. I love it. :lol:

jmo

Wonder if she needed a sedative then?:thumbsup:

[legalmania]

Casey bought nothing for Caylee. I wonder why?

Most people would buy something just out of habit. When my grandmother passed away I found myself buying her favorite cakes then when I got home I would remember, I can't bring these to her anymore.

[Lavenia]

No :(, Sorry I missed that! No news from the A's or KC?

All's quiet on that front. There was press that Casey can't see TV and can only get her news from a transistor radio, but nothing meaty.

Baez's beatdown: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-010609,0,7477088.story

[ishkabibble]

Then she called TonE and he hung up on her. I love it. :lol:

jmo

doesn't she later complain to her Mom about Tony and his seeming lack of support, in one of her jail interviews with Cindy she says something like "what's the point of trying to contact him, he won't even talk to Jose?"

Poor guy, he'll never trust his instincts about a woman again!!

[cuddlyrunner]

I didn't know TonE hung up on casey-when was this?

[SavannahStar]

TY, Savannah. I read so much material on this case and this doesn't even begin to cover what this woman went through or her illness. I will still say that I see so many things that point in this direction with Casey.


I'm almost to the point of leaning that way.

One thing I AM sure of.....and that is that she is not just your everyday simple garden-variety spoiled rotten b*&%% "sociopath". There's just far more to it. There's no one I can even think of that is remotely comparable to her, with the extent of her lies, etc.

There's far more to it. Really.

[WillowInFlight]

TY, Savannah. I read so much material on this case and this doesn't even begin to cover what this woman went through or her illness. I will still say that I see so many things that point in this direction with Casey.

You know January, you may be on to something. Anything is possible at this point.

[velvetbrown]

Can't wait for this trial to begin...I wonder who will write a book (besides Cindy)
I pick Mark Furman-I'd like to hear his take on all the obstruction that went on...

[5boxersmom]

He did? How did I miss that?! Good for him! :lol:

Yep, I read it in one of his interviews.

jmo

[Dells]

she was more anxious to speak to Tony just then, after all he was her boyfriend and she hadn't had a chance to talk to him all day, cause those cops were taking her all over looking for her missing daughter. And then they arrested her on a F*****g whim!! The nerve.

That really stood out to me. Her 2 year old daughter is missing, her friends and family are trying to find anything they can on the whereabouts of Caylee and all Casey cares about is talking to Tony.:rolleyes: I am sure by that point Tony didn't even want anything to do w/Casey anymore.

[Neffy]

LOL...pot. meet kettle. I guess all that money Casey's paying Baez is the reason he's working for her. Where's the lightening when you need it!?

I can't believe they went to court armed with that LOL!

I forsee a short trial.

[*MoonRider*]

Casey's prison radio here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2OLeAgcdls

[5boxersmom]

doesn't she later complain to her Mom about Tony and his seeming lack of support, in one of her jail interviews with Cindy she says something like "what's the point of trying to contact him, he won't even talk to Jose?"

Poor guy, he'll never trust his instincts about a woman again!!

Yes she did. Poor Casey, not. :wink:

[WillowInFlight]

Can you imagine Cindy having to be so angry at Casey for killing Caylee (and I think she knew this before those jail visit tapes) and yet having to contain herself in a way that would not implicate Casey in any way, shape or form, except to maintain her innocence so she could get her out of jail? The internal emotional tug of war alone. And Casey wanting so desperately to twist the knife into her mother's back and at the same time having to try not to alienate her mother so she would not turn on her? I think Casey had something over on her mother. Thus the statements :

"We forgive you for anything you may have said"
"Don't worry, Mom, I haven't said anything"

and this is where Casey won.

Interesting enough that Cindy did not say "We forgive you for anything you may have done".

[Dells]

Then she called TonE and he hung up on her. I love it. :lol:

jmo

Oh is that true? I actually wondered if Casey ever got in contact w/TonE and what he had to say to her. He actually hung up on her? Love it!:biggrin:

[Lavenia]

That really stood out to me. Her 2 year old daughter is missing, her friends and family are trying to find anything they can on the whereabouts of Caylee and all Casey cares about is talking to Tony.:rolleyes: I am sure by that point Tony didn't even want anything to do w/Casey anymore.

I imagine the poor kid was scared spitless by that point and threw that phone like it was a rattlesnake poised to strike when he learned it was Casey calling. :scared:

[ishkabibble]

:lol: Seriously you guys have me rolling on the floor today with the comments! Surely you jest! men have instincts in regard to women?

didn't one of Tony's friends recommend he "wife her up" cause she was a'cooking and a'cleaning and a'doing laundry. Just the perfect mate, on top of being a single mother, college student and ace event planner!!!! of course she was no longer a single mother, never a college student or event planner, so she had plenty of time on her hands.

[velvetbrown]

Interesting enough that Cindy did not say "We forgive you for anything you may have done".

Nice catch!

[kOOkie1]

Most people would buy something just out of habit. When my grandmother passed away I found myself buying her favorite cakes then when I got home I would remember, I can't bring these to her anymore.

Isnt that the truth!!! How many times as Mother's have we instinctly picked something up for our children in the store just to bring them something back?! I know I did. I think that is why Casey took the icepops and chicken from the freezer that day when TonE picked her up..I guess Casey figured Cindy would see that missing and think it was for Caylee. So sad.:sad:

[Neffy]

doesn't she later complain to her Mom about Tony and his seeming lack of support, in one of her jail interviews with Cindy she says something like "what's the point of trying to contact him, he won't even talk to Jose?"

Poor guy, he'll never trust his instincts about a woman again!!

OH yea, IIRC Cindy is asking if Casey has a message for her to give TonE. LOL.

Reminded me of the "what a waste" phone call she made to her mom type response.

Also something about he hasn't even been to visit HA!

[OneUp]

Most people would buy something just out of habit. When my grandmother passed away I found myself buying her favorite cakes then when I got home I would remember, I can't bring these to her anymore.Awww! Legal! I know what you mean about buying things w/o even intentionally thinking about it. I'm sure many people have done that.
I know we don't have detailed lists of what all Casey bought everywhere...but I didn't see any iced animal cookies or juice boxes in her Target purchases ( they sell them there). The FindCaylee site lists those as her favorite snack.
I'm pretty sure NEARLY all of us will agree as to why Casey wasn't buying things for caylee at the store.....Why would she waste money on purchases for a child who was no longer alive?
I noticed she does get some popsicles from her mom's in the stolen items she had when Tony L. picked her up at Amscot. IIRC, her cupid.com profile lists them as a favorite snack of Casey's...ever the selfish POStuff, that gal!
JMO.

[Calla]

doesn't she later complain to her Mom about Tony and his seeming lack of support, in one of her jail interviews with Cindy she says something like "what's the point of trying to contact him, he won't even talk to Jose?"

Poor guy, he'll never trust his instincts about a woman again!!

I think he did trust his instincts..jmo
which is why he told her not to bring the baby to his apartment

She says she needs his number ''ummm because he is my BOYFRIEND"..with the as if you didn't know attitude.

I bet he wan't calling her his girlfriend after such a short time nor was he scribbling her name and adding his to the end of it..:wink:

THere was obviously no commitment on his side.

[ishkabibble]

Interesting enough that Cindy did not say "We forgive you for anything you may have done".

Casey told Melich and Allen that Cindy told her she will never forgive her for what ever has happened to Caylee. She told them that at Universal the night they took her up to her "office"

[Carol25]

Lol, I was on the wrong thread. Do y'all know about this?

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html
The judge has ordered a hearing Thursday to hear arguments on whether Casey should be deposed.

I haven't heard anything about the Anthony's that was supposed to take place last Dec. It should be sometime after the funeral.

[SavannahStar]

This poor young man must have went to St Raphaels after she got arrested and lit about 30 candles. The went to Piazo's and got drunk as a skunk. If there is one person on this planet that should find G-D.....its is Anthony Lazzaro.


:lol::lol::lol: OMG that post has me screaming.....the visual!!!!!!!

[trt]

I'm here, with my overnight bag.. Pulling this post from the last thread, not sure how to did it properly..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Motomom
Oh well, before you or anyone else moves on i have a question. With MPD, do the alternate personalities remember what they have said or done? i think we would have seen one of the personalities come out andI haven't seen that. But with someone with mpd, would an alternate know that they were in trouble and not come out? I hope I made sense.

I suppose that would fall under "every case is different". All I'm saying is that every case is different and some of the things I am seeing and hearing in Casey points to Multiples.
BBL though. Gotta go.
__________________

Red is January..

I'm just really curious about this MPD thing.. I understand all cases are different..but is there anything typical? In general? I'm just wondering if someone with alternater personalities..if those personalities would go into hiding? the movie Identity was about this and thats about as far as my knowledge goes LOL

Would she have been released on bail if this type of information had come during the psych report? Does anyone know how this is handled under the law?

[Dells]

OH yea, IIRC Cindy is asking if Casey has a message for her to give TonE. LOL.

Reminded me of the "what a waste" phone call she made to her mom type response.

Also something about he hasn't even been to visit HA!

How could Casey even think that TonE would ever want anything to do w/her after all the information about the disappearance of Caylee came out? Especially when all the evidence was pointing to her? I think it is pretty telling that none of her friends are supporting her.

[ishkabibble]

Most people would buy something just out of habit. When my grandmother passed away I found myself buying her favorite cakes then when I got home I would remember, I can't bring these to her anymore.

I doubt Casey gave a thought to Caylee's favorite foods once she dumped that bag. I doubt she even knew what they were while Caylee was alive, Cindy knew them. but not Casey.

[velvetbrown]

There was a psych report? In the doc drop? I gotta see this!

[WillowInFlight]

Bratlings........from the voice of Experience.....Men have only one instinct when it comes to woman......are they drunk enough yet?


So there....finally the truth

:lol::lol::lol:

[SavannahStar]

I agree, good one.

Hey how'd you multi-quote? I thought we lost that capability?

Yes, he really nailed it there, in spades.

[happy2bme]

Does anyone know when Casey was on her shopping spree did she buy anything for Caylee? I know she was at the grocery store did she buy her favorite cookies or when at blockbuster did she get a tape for Caylee?


IIRC...She did not.

[ishkabibble]

How could Casey even think that TonE would ever want anything to do w/her after all the information about the disappearance of Caylee came out? Especially when all the evidence was pointing to her? I think it is pretty telling that none of her friends are supporting her.

You know it didn't seem like they had a hard time believing any of it, Jesse struggled more with the realization that Casey quite likely killed her own child. Tony, Amy, Ricardo and the others didn't take much at all to convince.

[SavannahStar]

I copied and pasted them together. :wink:


I kinda figured that after I posted. TY. (I sure do miss that feature that made it so easy!)

[Calla]

Would she have been released on bail if this type of information had come during the psych report? Does anyone know how this is handled under the law?

I personally don't know that a run of the mill psych evaluation done on Casey would necessarily have picked up on this..That's totally JMO

There are probably cases prior to this where a person was sentenced and in prison before anyone even considered that could be a possibility IMO
So my answer to your question was unneccessary and useless:laugh:

[aubrey04]

Great post Aubrey!:thumbsup:

Thank you. ;) I think it was pretty spot on. :)

"The judge also issued a strict warning to the attorneys, advising them not to engage in personal attacks. In a motion to postpone the deposition, the defense accused John Morgan's law firm of representing Zenaida Gonzalez to gain publicity. They cited a billboard that shows Morgan dressed as Santa Claus and says, "Santa Claus is 'For The People' Merry Christmas" as an example."

O M G !

Yeah, unbelievable..

[happy2bme]

she was more anxious to speak to Tony just then, after all he was her boyfriend and she hadn't had a chance to talk to him all day, cause those cops were taking her all over looking for her missing daughter. And then they arrested her on a F*****g whim!! The nerve.


Her saying that is something that really got me. She acted as if LE did it for the hell of it.

[*MoonRider*]

All's quiet on that front. There was press that Casey can't see TV and can only get her news from a transistor radio, but nothing meaty.

Baez's beatdown: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-010609,0,7477088.story

This is from 11/17 Jonathan Kasen, part of Anthony's legal team said he's not going to let Anthony state more than her name. After that he said she'll be pleading the 5th amendment. http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7885919&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[aubrey04]

Then she called TonE and he hung up on her. I love it. :lol:

jmo

I can only imagine how irate she was at that particular time. All she cared about at the moment was talking to TonE. She couldn't be bothered on the phone talking to her family and Christina - to talk about that pesky situation with Caylee.. all she wanted was to talk to her boyfriend.. and he hung up on her.

Priceless.

:wink:

[smileyjoe]

Her saying that is something that really got me. She acted as if LE did it for the hell of it.

KC figured that it was only hers and Cindy's little dirty secret.

It was just one more game of touché.

Wasn't supposed to public.

Cindy tried to trump KC.

They both lost.

Joe.

[frances1]

I think he did trust his instincts..jmo
which is why he told her not to bring the baby to his apartment

She says she needs his number ''ummm because he is my BOYFRIEND"..with the as if you didn't know attitude.

I bet he wan't calling her his girlfriend after such a short time nor was he scribbling her name and adding his to the end of it..:wink:

THere was obviously no commitment on his side.

He also didn't want her staying at his apartment while he was gone to NY.

[Neffy]

You know it didn't seem like they had a hard time believing any of it, Jesse struggled more with the realization that Casey quite likely killed her own child. Tony, Amy, Ricardo and the others didn't take much at all to convince.

That's because during that 31 days they were all with her and NO one was clubbing on an undercover assignment looking for Caylee! Nope, Caylee was snug as a bug under the watchful eyes of the Nanny that everyone realized NO ONE HAS EVER MET OR SEEN.

[Lavenia]

Would she have been released on bail if this type of information had come during the psych report? Does anyone know how this is handled under the law?

trt, IME the psych evals you get while in county jail are cursory at best. For the most part, they are trying to determine whether you pose an immediate risk to yourself or to staff or other inmates. You basically ask an inmate questions to see if they are oriented to time, place and who they are. Do they wish to harm themselves or anyone else. Do they have a PLAN to harm themselves or anyone else. Very little more than that is done. It is basically for safety and housing purposes.

It is up to the defense to get a psych evaluation if that's what you want to use as a defense. You also have to have a cooperating client. If someone is going to deny symptoms, you have a very long row to hoe to come to an accurate diagnoses.

ETA: I've done MANY prison psych evals. and I'm an R.N. not a Dr. (The Dr. comes by and signs off on what you write up.)

[Regina.Lampert]

Passive-aggressive. Yes, let's talk about personal responsibility and ethics.. In fact, let's talk about Cindy and George Anthony's personal responsibility and ethics. This should get interesting.
Hmm so their granddaughter is "missing" for 31 days. Cindy pens a blog talking about how her Caylee is missing and has been taken from her on July 3rd. Almost 2 weeks later - they get a call that Casey's car has been in the impound. They go get the car and it smells like a dead body. According to both George and Cindy - they are BOTH familiar with the smell of decomposition. Cindy is a nurse. George used to work in LE. They both have smelled "the smell".. They both smell what appears to be a dead body.. George goes to open the trunk.. He says he prays that he doesn't find Caylee or Casey back there.. The odor is so bad that George has to drive home with the windows unrolled even though it is raining outside. The odor is so bad that when he begins speaking about it to LE -- he has to leave the room and go vomit.

But... after they pick up the car.. they go home... Clean out the trunk. Cindy washes the clothing in the trunk. Cindy allegedly gives a hairbrush used by BOTH casey and caylee to LE, instead of Caylee's hairbrush.

They lie. All the lies. To LE, to the media, to the public.

Yes, I like people to take personal responsibility and have ethics too.

Savannah, do you only want people besides the Anthony to take personal responsibility and have ethics?


I love this post Aubrey!! :loveeyes:

[ishkabibble]

KC figured that it was only hers and Cindy's little dirty secret.

It was just one more game of touché.

Wasn't supposed to public.

Cindy tried to trump KC.

They both lost.

Joe.

I don't think Casey meant a whim by the police. I think it was directed more towards Cindy, who never called the cops before about stealing and Casey couldn't get her head around the fact that to Cindy not knowing if her grand daughter was safe trumped Casey pilfering from Moms purse.

[BJames]

I was running the shopping spree scenerio through my mind...and it is kind of freaky really.
Even IF (big IF) Casey believed that 'the Nanny' had kidnapped Caylee...how could she go past anything she would think Caylee would want without breaking down? Even a hesitation...a tear...nothing?
We see in the videos when she is checking out (with Amy's cheques) she's like Chucky Chipper...smiling her head off.
Earth to Casey......?

Just my opinion of course...

[ishkabibble]

That's because during that 31 days they were all with her and NO one was clubbing on an undercover assignment looking for Caylee! Nope, Caylee was snug as a bug under the watchful eyes of the Nanny that everyone realized NO ONE HAS EVER MET OR SEEN.

strange how not meeting or seeing a nanny who is watching your child meant something to one group of people, yet another group much more emotionally involved with that child didn't think it odd at all.

[legalmania]

Lol, I was on the wrong thread. Do y'all know about this?

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html
The judge has ordered a hearing Thursday to hear arguments on whether Casey should be deposed.

I haven't heard anything about the Anthony's that was supposed to take place last Dec. It should be sometime after the funeral.

The only way he's going to be able to depose her is with the understanding that the records stay sealed. I'm still waiting for Baez to ask for change of jurisdiction.

[WillowInFlight]

The only way he's going to be able to depose her is with the understanding that the records stay sealed. I'm still waiting for Baez to ask for change of jurisdiction.

I am shocked he hasn't asked already.

[happy2bme]

I was running the shopping spree scenerio through my mind...and it is kind of freaky really.
Even IF (big IF) Casey believed that 'the Nanny' had kidnapped Caylee...how could she go past anything she would think Caylee would want without breaking down? Even a hesitation...a tear...nothing?
We see in the videos when she is checking out (with Amy's cheques) she's like Chucky Chipper...smiling her head off.
Earth to Casey......?

Just my opinion of course...

ITA. What I find freaky is the fact that the A's did not visit Casey to comfort her when Caylee's remains where found....especially since they claim the "the nanny" took Caylee.

[legalmania]

I am shocked he hasn't asked already.

He's tried every thing in the book and I think that would have been one of the first things that would come to him. I think he's keeping his doors open for an appeal.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Civil case against Casey Anthony delayed

Judge Jose Rodriguez put attorneys on both sides in their place saying the personal attack would not be tolerated and that the filing for Tuesday’s hearing was inappropriate and that it’s a matter that needs to be addressed and argued in a formal courtroom.

Stuffed in a small conference room Judge Jose Rodriguez quickly made it known to both Casey Anthony and Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez' attorney that this was not the place or the time for this type of hearing. “I do not appreciate this done on the second day I take over the civil division.”
...
As things stand now Casey Anthony is scheduled for depositions with Gonzalez's attorney Monday at 10 a.m.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8202223&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[SavannahStar]

Civil case against Casey Anthony delayed

Judge Jose Rodriguez put attorneys on both sides in their place saying the personal attack would not be tolerated and that the filing for Tuesday’s hearing was inappropriate and that it’s a matter that needs to be addressed and argued in a formal courtroom.

Stuffed in a small conference room Judge Jose Rodriguez quickly made it known to both Casey Anthony and Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez' attorney that this was not the place or the time for this type of hearing. “I do not appreciate this done on the second day I take over the civil division.”
...
As things stand now Casey Anthony is scheduled for depositions with Gonzalez's attorney Monday at 10 a.m.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8202223&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1


Gotta give you clinking beer mugs for unbiased links, Cury. :biggrin:

[*MoonRider*]

I do not think he will, something tells me he doesnt want to have to travel or live elsewhere or even risk not having immediate help at his disposal like the other attorneys in the office. They would all lose major money putting every other case on hold to do that and leave Orlando.

FWIW this is what Katprint posted on 11/17 after the idiot Baez filed a countersuit. Hope she doesn't mind.

"I do think he is in over his head, and I don't think he is asking the right people for advice. Apparently he didn't see the value in working for an experienced criminal defense attorney before opening his own law office and his partner has even less experience than he does, so he doesn't have the usual Kung Fu Master mentor attorney to seek advice from. I don't know if he is so arrogant that he simply believes that he already knows it all, or if he was simply unable to land such a job because he did such a bad job at the PD office where he clerked during law school or he performs badly during interviews or they don't want to take a chance on someone who had so much trouble passing the bar exam or whatever.

But you know what experienced attorneys know that Mr. Baez does not know? It turns out that being offensive is not necessarily the best defense."

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[kOOkie1]

You may have hit on something there, Niki. Is it possible Caylee saw something that Casey was involved in or something she did that was a huge :no: and was afraid she would tell so she "quieted" her in her own little way?

..I sometimes find my mind wondering about the little things in Caylee's innocent life..Like I wonder if Caylee felt close to Casey..like thats my Mommy!! or did she feel like Cindy was more the "mommy". I wonder if she cried for Cindy when Casey did have to take her somewhere?? ..

[I'mRight]

because they knew the real Casey...Jesse was snowed....

I also think it's because the others saw her partying it up, but I don't think Jesse did.

[velvetbrown]

ETA: I've done MANY prison psych evals. and I'm an R.N. not a Dr. (The Dr. comes by and signs off on what you write up.)[/QUOTE]

I muss the clinking beer glasses :(

[I'mRight]

FWIW this is what Katprint posted on 11/17 after the idiot Baez filed a countersuit. Hope she doesn't mind.

"I do think he is in over his head, and I don't think he is asking the right people for advice. Apparently he didn't see the value in working for an experienced criminal defense attorney before opening his own law office and his partner has even less experience than he does, so he doesn't have the usual Kung Fu Master mentor attorney to seek advice from. I don't know if he is so arrogant that he simply believes that he already knows it all, or if he was simply unable to land such a job because he did such a bad job at the PD office where he clerked during law school or he performs badly during interviews or they don't want to take a chance on someone who had so much trouble passing the bar exam or whatever.

But you know what experienced attorneys know that Mr. Baez does not know? It turns out that being offensive is not necessarily the best defense."

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Baez clearly does not know what he is doing. This mess should have ended a long time ago with a plea. His inexperience just keeps on showing itself.

[i_pickle]

I was running the shopping spree scenerio through my mind...and it is kind of freaky really.
Even IF (big IF) Casey believed that 'the Nanny' had kidnapped Caylee...how could she go past anything she would think Caylee would want without breaking down? Even a hesitation...a tear...nothing?
We see in the videos when she is checking out (with Amy's cheques) she's like Chucky Chipper...smiling her head off.
Earth to Casey......?

Just my opinion of course...Yes, I think the shopping and partying are very telling. IF (another big one) she was afraid to tell her parents because she didn't want to appear neglectful, you'd think she'd tell someone. One of her friends---someone.

Her actions just don't indicate a mother that has no idea where her child is, no matter which way you look at it.

JMO

[Mimi428]

I truly think that this is why we are all having such a hard time armchair diagnosing this girl. I think it's all compartmentalized with every single persona having a different mental illness and I think that is why we don't see it. Because it's so obvious and yet so "out there" plus it would give Casey a "sympathy pass" for this murder. And I don't think anyone who believes she is guilty wants to do that.


I don't think anyone is having any trouble at all with armchair diagnostics. I simply think different people have different opinions about their impressions of Casey & her behavior.

Maybe CW will allow us to have a thread to discuss the possibilities - I find it very difficult to keep track of posts opining about her psych disorder possibilities when they are in the quagmire of discussing how awful her parents are, how lowdown her attorney is, how the meter reader might have been sent from another planet to find the bag, how Lenny never ceases to amaze us with his unending supply of BIZARRE revelations, etc.

I have not read any pscyh professional stuff about Chris Sizemore, so I cannot comment on the many manifestations of her illness. I don't think anecdotal information is particularly helpful, but there might be some other stuff out there that is more clinical, I just don't know. I don't think comparing someone who murders with someone who doesn't will give us a whole lot to go on, however. That is a key element in this case - murder - & I think any discussion of MPD/DID must include examples of other murderers with that specific diagnosis.

I DO know that the guy who diagnosed Bianchi as having MPD (so-called in that era) has a very long, thorough article which is online & he relates in very good detail how he intially came to diagnose him as having MPD - & how he came to the conclusion later on that he was wrong, wrong, wrong. It's really a great read, because he h#mmers out all the ways in which Bianchi presented symptoms of an alter & how he interpreted what Bianchi presented - and then he later dissects the errors he made in his interpretations & offers the alternative explanation for why Bianchi went to the great lengths he did to con him into providing that diagnosis - but it is long read.

JMO

[*MoonRider*]

Baez clearly does not know what he is doing. This mess should have ended a long time ago with a plea. His inexperience just keeps on showing itself.

They are still here. Just hit more.:beer:

ETA this was for Velvet.

[sunbunny]

I muss the clinking beer glasses :(

:beer: me too! :o

[WillowInFlight]

Yes, I think the shopping and partying are very telling. IF (another big one) she was afraid to tell her parents because she didn't want to appear neglectful, you'd think she'd tell someone. One of her friends---someone.

Her actions just don't indicate a mother that has no idea where her child is, no matter which way you look at it.

JMO
I have always thought if it was just an accident, she would have at least confided in someone.

[Roux]

Re Bianchi, the main thing I remember about his being discovered as faking was his reaching for the cigarette, or maybe it was a lighter or ashtray.

[SavannahStar]

:beer: me too! :o


I miss the laughing hyena. Now that one IS gone, right?

[Lavenia]

ETA: I've done MANY prison psych evals. and I'm an R.N. not a Dr. (The Dr. comes by and signs off on what you write up.)

I muss the clinking beer glasses :([/QUOTE]

:beer: Yay R.N.'s! Look where the smilies are and click on the the link that says "more". You will find most of our old smilies there! :thumbsup:

[Neffy]

I really don't know, Kookie, but I think it is as good a possibility as anyone elses, that Caylee saw something she should not have and Casey had to kill her to keep her from talking.


Silenced from talking :confused: she wasn't even 3 yet!

[Roux]

I have always thought if it was just an accident, she would have at least confided in someone.

I believe that we will see Cindy & George claiming it was an accident and that they forgive Casey.

[SwFlorida]

I think I am going to like Judge Jose Rodriguez .:thumbup:

[Lavenia]

Check out the picture

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2250136914_aa094813d3.jpg

Stylish, too! <guffaw!>

[legalmania]

I do not think he will, something tells me he doesn't want to have to travel or live elsewhere or even risk not having immediate help at his disposal like the other attorneys in the office. They would all lose major money putting every other case on hold to do that and leave Orlando.

Orlando has quite a few cities around like Kissimmee or Winter Park which is only 20 to 30 minutes away. He could still conduct business as usual.

[Lavenia]

I miss the laughing hyena. Now that one IS gone, right?

Did she get banned? :blink:

[rambo55]

fine.

arrest them.


Although I completely agree Blackbird, how is LE soppose to believe them now if they agree to talk after all the BS they have been spewing since the beginning?

Hopefully, th pros doesn't need a thing from them.

[Shades]

Talking about being neglectful.....
What Mother in their right mind would EVER
leave a 2 y/o child at the bottem of a staircase,
outside a building without any supervision????
In my mind.....THAT is neglectful!!!

[nana6]

I don't think anyone is having any trouble at all with armchair diagnostics. I simply think different people have different opinions about their impressions of Casey & her behavior.

Maybe CW will allow us to have a thread to discuss the possibilities - I find it very difficult to keep track of posts opining about her psych disorder possibilities when they are in the quagmire of discussing how awful her parents are, how lowdown her attorney is, how the meter reader might have been sent from another planet to find the bag, how Lenny never ceases to amaze us with his unending supply of BIZARRE revelations, etc.

I have not read any pscyh professional stuff about Chris Sizemore, so I cannot comment on the many manifestations of her illness. I don't think anecdotal information is particularly helpful, but there might be some other stuff out there that is more clinical, I just don't know. I don't think comparing someone who murders with someone who doesn't will give us a whole lot to go on, however. That is a key element in this case - murder - & I think any discussion of MPD/DID must include examples of other murderers with that specific diagnosis.

I DO know that the guy who diagnosed Bianchi as having MPD (so-called in that era) has a very long, thorough article which is online & he relates in very good detail how he intially came to diagnose him as having MPD - & how he came to the conclusion later on that he was wrong, wrong, wrong. It's really a great read, because he h#mmers out all the ways in which Bianchi presented symptoms of an alter & how he interpreted what Bianchi presented - and then he later dissects the errors he made in his interpretations & offers the alternative explanation for why Bianchi went to the great lengths he did to con him into providing that diagnosis - but it is long read.

JMO

Hi Mimi, I just got on here now . I was reading your post and remembered a great movie ( I forgot the name of course) Richard Gere was the doctor who diagnosed this guy with MPD The guy really had him fooled to the end. Some of you may remember. The kid killed a bishop in a horrible bloody scene and so the story went. My point is, Casey is smart. I believe she has the patience of a saint though is not one for sure. I really thought she would break by now. She is not changing her story one bit. Anyway, your post just reminded me of the movie.

[i_pickle]

I have always thought if it was just an accident, she would have at least confided in someone.When my daughters were around that age and still single, friends were everything to them. It seems highly unlikely that she wouldn't have confided in someone.

JMO

[Roux]

Hi Mimi, I just got on here now . I was reading your post and remembered a great movie ( I forgot the name of course) Richard Gere was the doctor who diagnosed this guy with MPD The guy really had him fooled to the end. Some of you may remember. The kid killed a bishop in a horrible bloody scene and so the story went. My point is, Casey is smart. I believe she has the patience of a saint though is not one for sure. I really thought she would break by now. She is not changing her story one bit. Anyway, your post just reminded me of the movie.

A couple of posters were discussing that movie yesterday. Edward Norton played the bad guy who fooled Gere.

[SavannahStar]

Talking about being neglectful.....
What Mother in their right mind would EVER
leave a 2 y/o child at the bottem of a staircase,
outside a building without any supervision????
In my mind.....THAT is neglectful!!!


I always assumed Zenaida met her there, not that she dropped Caylee by herself.

(NOT THAT ANY OF IT IS TRUE........)

[nana6]

It's all that is left!!!

All other possibilities have been defeated...even before it went to court.

Baez even primed the pump in one of his ridiculous motions

I am thinking of an insanity defense of some kind. There are many to pick from and I believe we will see the defense come up with any number of doctors who will get up on the stand and claim she has something

[legalmania]

Stylish, too! <guffaw!>

I was watching a documentary on prison and these guys come up with some really genius stuff. Some guy had made a guitar out of cardboard with amplifier and all.

[nana6]

A couple of posters were discussing that movie yesterday. Edward Norton played the bad guy who fooled Gere.

Thank youRoux, I forgot his name. He is such a great actor. Boy was he ever good when he would go into that other pesonality. I am not saying that is what Casey has but I believe there will be a defense in that orderor some other.

[AMS]

Updated

State Tries To Limit Images Of Caylee's Remains
Prosecutors File Motion Over Concerns Of Sale

POSTED: 1:21 pm EST January 6, 2009
UPDATED: 4:49 pm EST January 6, 2009

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html

[SwFlorida]

Hi Mimi, I just got on here now . I was reading your post and remembered a great movie ( I forgot the name of course) Richard Gere was the doctor who diagnosed this guy with MPD The guy really had him fooled to the end. Some of you may remember. The kid killed a bishop in a horrible bloody scene and so the story went. My point is, Casey is smart. I believe she has the patience of a saint though is not one for sure. I really thought she would break by now. She is not changing her story one bit. Anyway, your post just reminded me of the movie.
Primal Fear

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117381/

[smileyjoe]

Check out the picture

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2250136914_aa094813d3.jpg

Wow. One could make a tattoo gun out of that!


Joe.

[WillowInFlight]

I believe that we will see Cindy & George claiming it was an accident and that they forgive Casey.

You know Casey knows that the cause of death will never be known, I don't understand why she isn't coming forward and saying it was an accident. Would she rather have people think of her as a murderour?

[ishkabibble]

I have always thought if it was just an accident, she would have at least confided in someone.

Without a cause of death, Baez may still be trying to convince her to cop a plea. He hasn't asked for a change in venue. His dream team is strangely quiet (especially Kobi). I think without access to the active crime scene and with her remains being skeletal only, they don't have a lot to muddy things up with. On the other hand the Prosecution may have a hard time PROVING murder if the defense can offer a believable accidental death/tragic accident scenario, with a fairly stiff sentence even 15-20 yrs may have her out before she is 40. All depends on how far Casey wants to take it. Her father said she likes to push things to the edge and then even further, so she may go all or nothing. As long as she has no outside influence (family) and right now they are keeping their distance, I think she is gonna stick with her story. I don't think she'll take the stand though.

[Elfinrow]

It is so odd to me that the 100th episode of onetreehill has elements of CaseyA in it. the crazy nanny looks so much like her it's uncanny. She shades that seem to be such a prop for her, the interaction with this child, jamie. For those of you who've not seen it here is a short clip.
Uncle to the rescue, there are so many elements to this even down to the lyrics of the song. So, if Casey in her state of mind, whatever that might have been watched this; did she take from scenes in this episode?
Isnt it uncanny that even when she calls Jamie it sounds like "caylee"?

What do you all think? I dont know how many of you actually saw clips from the episode or not so Im posting it again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ptRZnuNtZ0

[Regina.Lampert]

Hi Mimi, I just got on here now . I was reading your post and remembered a great movie ( I forgot the name of course) Richard Gere was the doctor who diagnosed this guy with MPD The guy really had him fooled to the end. Some of you may remember. The kid killed a bishop in a horrible bloody scene and so the story went. My point is, Casey is smart. I believe she has the patience of a saint though is not one for sure. I really thought she would break by now. She is not changing her story one bit. Anyway, your post just reminded me of the movie.

Primal Fear and it sure had a twist at the end. No way casey anthony is as talented, imo and I don't think for one moment she actually is afflicted with MPD/DID. She is just evil. imo.

[SavannahStar]

When I first heard her saying this to the detective, I thought the opposite. She dropped her baby off at the stairs and took off. Then when the police officer pressed her further about just leaving Caylee at the bottom of the stairs like that, she went on to say "Zanny took her". I think she continued with the story when he pressed her to do that.


I guess I thought Zenaida was there at the stairwell because I could not even fathom leaving a two-year-old alone on a stairwell. And....if she were trying to lie and SOUND truthful, why didn't she say, "well I took her up to the apt., Zanny had movies on and popcorn made, everything was fine and she seemed normal" and blah blah. I mean WHY......drop her off at a stairwell???? I didn't take it literally. I just couldn't comprehend that, or even why should would say it.

[Neffy]

strange how not meeting or seeing a nanny who is watching your child meant something to one group of people, yet another group much more emotionally involved with that child didn't think it odd at all.

Well you know they're lying to and besides one of them is ZANNY is Cindy's belief.

[legalmania]

Oh I know, I am familiar with the area but still for a change of venue even that would be too close. Usually when trials are moved it is at least an hour or more away.

Yes but don't you think an attorney's main gold is to make sure his client has a fair and impartial jury? In my paralegal days I use to have to drive from Ft. Lauderdale to West Palm to Miami. It took me hours at times.

[SwFlorida]

Updated

State Tries To Limit Images Of Caylee's Remains
Prosecutors File Motion Over Concerns Of Sale

POSTED: 1:21 pm EST January 6, 2009
UPDATED: 4:49 pm EST January 6, 2009

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html
IMO They need to show them to Casey. Make her look at everyone one.

[sunbunny]

I miss the laughing hyena. Now that one IS gone, right?

sorta!! (http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w314/megaa24/laughinghyena.gif)

i wish they were going to show casey's deposition on tv. i would call in sick from work to watch THAT!!!

[Roux]

I was wondering if the delay in the second autopsy is due to Kathy Reichs schedule. Wasn't she the one who was going to perform it?

[WillowInFlight]

Nana...they have to keep with the Zanny defense..(this might be listed in law books for years to come...THE ZANNY DEFENSE)

They have too much tied into it. If one day Casey has an epiphany and yells out..I KILLED MY CHILD....then...maybe then.

I just don't see how they are going to run with that, what are they going to say when the prosecution claims Zanny the nanny never existed except in Casey's mind?

[aubrey04]

Updated

State Tries To Limit Images Of Caylee's Remains
Prosecutors File Motion Over Concerns Of Sale

POSTED: 1:21 pm EST January 6, 2009
UPDATED: 4:49 pm EST January 6, 2009

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html

It sounds like the state is worried that someone in the defense camp will sell the images of Caylee's remains. That is very sad, but I understand why the State is being careful.

There are a lot of images of dead celebrities on the net. Anna Nicole Smith, River Phoenix, Marilyn Monroe.. There is even a picture of Tupac in the morgue after his autopsy where you can see the Y-incision they made to open him up... and a picture of Selena, the Tejano singer, where before she was "cleaned up" for burial, in which you can see the bullet holes.. Sad, but there is a market for this stuff.

[CANDYKISSES]

Updated

State Tries To Limit Images Of Caylee's Remains
Prosecutors File Motion Over Concerns Of Sale

POSTED: 1:21 pm EST January 6, 2009
UPDATED: 4:49 pm EST January 6, 2009

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html

WHERE oh WHERE IS EXILED????

Isn't that the poster looking for this?

In this motion, the state argues that substantial licensing fees have been paid for pictures and video of Caylee taken while she was alive. That is why prosecutors want the judge to place special restrictions on digitized images of the remains before they hand them over to attorney Jose Baez and his defense team.

FROM THE ARTICLE... barf

[SavannahStar]

I was wondering if the delay in the second autopsy is due to Kathy Reichs schedule. Wasn't she the one who was going to perform it?

I did see her interviewed when she said she was most definitely going to look at the bones. Don't know what her schedule is though.

[Regina.Lampert]

Updated

State Tries To Limit Images Of Caylee's Remains
Prosecutors File Motion Over Concerns Of Sale

POSTED: 1:21 pm EST January 6, 2009
UPDATED: 4:49 pm EST January 6, 2009

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html


Thank you AMS. I tell ya, I love these prosecutors, they know exactly what they are dealing with in the awful anthony family and baez:

In this motion, the state argues that substantial licensing fees have been paid for pictures and video of Caylee taken while she was alive. That is why prosecutors want the judge to place special restrictions on digitized images of the remains before they hand them over to attorney Jose Baez and his defense team.


:thumbup:

[ishkabibble]

When I first heard her saying this to the detective, I thought the opposite. She dropped her baby off at the stairs and took off. Then when the police officer pressed her further about just leaving Caylee at the bottom of the stairs like that, she went on to say "Zanny took her". I think she continued with the story when he pressed her to do that.

After they confronted her with the fact that the specific apt was vacant and had been for some time, she made a slight change in her answers to the same questions later in the interview. She changed it to she frequently met Zanny at the steps to hand over Caylee and that Zanny had friends who lived in the same complex. She avoided saying anything about the specific apartment # in the latter part of the interview. I think my memory on this is correct, I will go back and listen again to make sure.

[Mimi428]

Would she have been released on bail if this type of information had come during the psych report? Does anyone know how this is handled under the law?


My pure guess is that her psych evaluation when she hit the jailhouse was simply to determine if she was showing signs of harming herself or others, or was delusional and/or hallucinating. IOW, very cursory exam to make sure she understood who she was, where she was, what rules she was expected to follow, if she was making any statements about wanting to die & stuff like that.

They don't particularly want her writhing on the floor & screaming about seeing things in her cell. They don't want her to attempt to kill herself. Certainly if she had a medical disorder such as diabetes or high blood pressure, they would want to keep her on maintenance medications for those sorts of things. But that's it. There is no money nor is there any benefit to the jail personnel to put her through a barrage of psych exams. It could be useful to the defense or to the prosecution, but if that is the case, they will take care of getting those sorts of tests done.

JMO

[rambo55]

I was watching a documentary on prison and these guys come up with some really genius stuff. Some guy had made a guitar out of cardboard with amplifier and all.

I saw that too! It is so sad that so many bright people throw their lives away.

[aubrey04]

I guess I thought Zenaida was there at the stairwell because I could not even fathom leaving a two-year-old alone on a stairwell. And....if she were trying to lie and SOUND truthful, why didn't she say, "well I took her up to the apt., Zanny had movies on and popcorn made, everything was fine and she seemed normal" and blah blah. I mean WHY......drop her off at a stairwell???? I didn't take it literally. I just couldn't comprehend that, or even why should would say it.

She DID try to say that she took Caylee to Zenaida's apartment, but changed her story when they confronted her about that little fact that the apartment had been vacant for MONTHS.. At that point, how could she say that she took her into the apartment? Her lies were being unraveled before her eyes.

So then she adjusted her story and claimed she left Caylee at the bottom of the stairs.

[BJames]

He's tried every thing in the book and I think that would have been one of the first things that would come to him. I think he's keeping his doors open for an appeal.

Could be for appeal Legalmania...but I was wondering if Jose's 'Tip Line' might catch a lot of 'Casey Threats' from the public...and Jose might try to persuade a Judge for a change of venue with the recordings?

[nana6]

I just don't see how they are going to run with that, what are they going to say when the prosecution claims Zanny the nanny never existed except in Casey's mind?

IMO they are going to say she is mentally ill

[Mimi428]

Hi Mimi, I just got on here now . I was reading your post and remembered a great movie ( I forgot the name of course) Richard Gere was the doctor who diagnosed this guy with MPD The guy really had him fooled to the end. Some of you may remember. The kid killed a bishop in a horrible bloody scene and so the story went. My point is, Casey is smart. I believe she has the patience of a saint though is not one for sure. I really thought she would break by now. She is not changing her story one bit. Anyway, your post just reminded me of the movie.


The movie was Primal Fear, IIRC. To me, the most important thing to remember in that movie was that although the defendant was BELIEVED to have MPD/DID - in the end, he made it VERY clear that he had faked everyone out. Faked it. Fooled 'em. Conned 'em.

(like a psychopath would want to do)

JMO

[Neffy]

Thank youRoux, I forgot his name. He is such a great actor. Boy was he ever good when he would go into that other pesonality. I am not saying that is what Casey has but I believe there will be a defense in that orderor some other.

There is not one shred of evidence that's out there that points to this being Casey's problem. Not one fact except that she lies. That is a fact. That is in numerous LE reports.

Pathological lying I'll give you also.

Now anything else is purely rumour and lying was tagged onto MPD. C'mon already.

[I'mRight]

IMO they are going to say she is mentally ill

I honestly don't see a way out of this for Casey. You could be right about them going the insanity route, but IMO she is not mentally ill. Casey is more "effed up sociopath" than seriously mentally ill.

[Roux]

those images belong in a vault....there are too many ghoulish people out there!!...

What was that ruling regarding the photos of Dale Earnhardt? I believe his family prevailed and the court ruled that certain images could not come into public purview. Probably some of our FL residents know the scoop.

[legalmania]

True! But we have not really seen Baez doing anything in the best interest of anyone, not even for himself.

I've been trying to find out how many murder trials this guy has done, I use to remember how to look it up, but I forgot. I know it was something about the professional licensing bureau. Let me see if I can reach into my memory bank.

[I'mRight]

Regina.....think of other people for once......How else is Baez going to make any money on this unless he gets to put those pics in his book?...you know the Bestseller " Lawyering for Dummies":tonguewag:

LMAO. Too damn funny. I wouldn't be surprised if he believed Casey's Nanny story.

[st777jo]

Check out the picture

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2312/2250136914_aa094813d3.jpg

Ha Ha!!!! Hey Mac, looks like no texting on that baby.
jo

[Cury-us Coyote]

State Tries To Limit Images Of Caylee's Remains

The discs include X-rays and photos of her body, which were supposed to be delivered to the defense under a court’s order. But in a new motion, the Orange-Osceola State Attorney’s Office said it has concerns that the images will be reproduced and sold, according to WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing.

In this motion, the state argues that substantial licensing fees have been paid for pictures and video of Caylee taken while she was alive. That is why prosecutors want the judge to place special restrictions on digitized images of the remains before they hand them over to attorney Jose Baez and his defense team.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html
http://www.wesh.com/video/18423791/index.html

[kitty1182]

What was that ruling regarding the photos of Dale Earnhardt? I believe his family prevailed and the court ruled that certain images could not come into public purview. Probably some of our FL residents know the scoop.

Yes, Teresa went before someone and it was granted his autospy pics would not be released to the public...

[nana6]

I honestly don't see a way out of this for Casey. You could be right about them going the insanity route, but IMO she is not mentally ill. Casey is more "effed up sociopath" than seriously mentally ill.

I agree with you on this but I still think they will go that route something with the mind for sure they will try to use

[CANDYKISSES]

There is not one shred of evidence that's out there that points to this being Casey's problem. Not one fact except that she lies. That is a fact. That is in numerous LE reports.

Pathological lying I'll give you also.

Now anything else is purely rumour and lying was tagged onto MPD. C'mon already.


That's simply UNTRUE IMO Neffy.

http://skepdic.com/mpd.html

Nobody here is qualified to diagnose her, but given we know she has made it through at least ONE psych evaluation and it was ordered through the courts, it's fair game IMO.

I think she displays many of the symptoms myself. JMO tho.

[Lavenia]

After they confronted her with the fact that the specific apt was vacant and had been for some time, she made a slight change in her answers to the same questions later in the interview. She changed it to she frequently met Zanny at the steps to hand over Caylee and that Zanny had friends who lived in the same complex. She avoided saying anything about the specific apartment # in the latter part of the interview. I think my memory on this is correct, I will go back and listen again to make sure.

That's right and then the other day, some of us noticed where Casey said she left Caylee out in the *parking lot* for Zenaida. :rolleyes:

[Roux]

There is not one shred of evidence that's out there that points to this being Casey's problem. Not one fact except that she lies. That is a fact. That is in numerous LE reports.

Pathological lying I'll give you also.

Now anything else is purely rumour and lying was tagged onto MPD. C'mon already.

Since Dexter's finished I'm not watching Showtime but have seen the ad for a new series with a MPD main character. I imagine that will induce more people to believe. That's not Casey's problem, IMO.

[ishkabibble]

Here is the thing I do not understand, everyone keeps saying there is no way Casey could take teh stand. She will be destroyed. I agree! However Baez can not present evidence of the nanny story himself! Attorneys can only present evidence not testify to it. What will he use to show the Zanny story? Cindy, George, Lee, no one has ever seen her!

But he can ask any of those witnesses about who took care of Caylee and probably the prosecution can bring on Cindy to testify to her 911 calls in which she is heard telling George as he returns from work, that Zanny stole Caylee. The whole case is predicated on those calls to 911 in them Casey herself states the Zenaide F-G or G-F stole the child. I think it will be the Prosecution who brings Zanny to the jury thru the evidence and statements of the Anthony family, even without one word of testimony from Casey. She has given that story to too many people, and via the "excited utterance" of Cindy in the 911 call they can't argue hearsay.

[aubrey04]

LK show paid while they were in Calif but not when they got home ........

I wonder who paid for that expensive hotel and expensive dinner the Anthony's had when they got back to Orlando but couldn't go home b/c the house was being re-searched. I thought someone from the Anthony camp made a comment to the media stating Larry King's producers paid for it... that was awhile ago and I don't recall exactly...

Not worth my time to investigate it.. honestly. :)

[kitty1182]

I agree with you on this but I still think they will go that route something with the mind for sure they will try to use



I think JB will say she is another "Sybil"..

[5boxersmom]

WHERE oh WHERE IS EXILED????

Isn't that the poster looking for this?

In this motion, the state argues that substantial licensing fees have been paid for pictures and video of Caylee taken while she was alive. That is why prosecutors want the judge to place special restrictions on digitized images of the remains before they hand them over to attorney Jose Baez and his defense team.

FROM THE ARTICLE... barf

Guess that answers that question. :wink:

[Carol25]

The Beaz team just keeps on giving....

It appears that during the hearing, Garcia of the Baez team told of his strategy of Casey pleading the 5th. At which time Mitnik of the Morgan team said he couldn't do that, knowing more legal stuff that appently the Baez team did. He explained, once they countersued, they put the "sword and the shield" concept out there. They cannot use the 5th admendment when they countersue.

Woo Hoo!

Something that the judge must figure out. 11:00 on Thursday.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8202223&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[Neffy]

Updated

State Tries To Limit Images Of Caylee's Remains
Prosecutors File Motion Over Concerns Of Sale

POSTED: 1:21 pm EST January 6, 2009
UPDATED: 4:49 pm EST January 6, 2009

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html

The state doesn't put the Anthony Family in any favorable light it would seem.

Interesting to know if something is going on behind the scenes regarding the "donations" and selling other pics, vids or the upcoming memorial service to the highest bidder.

[tomsgirl]

Nana...they have to keep with the Zanny defense..(this might be listed in law books for years to come...THE ZANNY DEFENSE)

They have too much tied into it. If one day Casey has an epiphany and yells out..I KILLED MY CHILD....then...maybe then.

That would be a Perry Mason moment!:w00t: Now you all know how old I am. JMO

[ishkabibble]

That's right and then the other day, some of us noticed where Casey said she left Caylee out in the *parking lot* for Zenaida. :rolleyes:

Yeah, she didn't want to look like a bad mother who left her child unattended waiting alone for a babysitter. So she gave a few more details cause those extra details in the past always won Cindy over.

[kitty1182]

I wonder who paid for that expensive hotel and expensive dinner the Anthony's had when they got back to Orlando but couldn't go home b/c the house was being re-searched. I thought someone from the Anthony camp made a comment to the media stating Larry King's producers paid for it... that was awhile ago and I don't recall exactly...

Not worth my time to investigate it.. honestly. :)


Can't remember where I saw it, but it seems like I read some kind of media or show paid for their stay at the Ritz...

[Regina.Lampert]

Regina.....think of other people for once......How else is Baez going to make any money on this unless he gets to put those pics in his book?...you know the Bestseller " Lawyering for Dummies":tonguewag:

Can't help it Mac, I'm selfish and inconsiderate that way...............lol.

After the Laci Peterson trial, henry kechup lee went on a tour, giving lectures using pictures of poor Laci and Connor's remains. Another reason I cannot stomach him.

I hope the Judge protects all these grim images and x-rays.

[Lavenia]

Yeah, she didn't want to look like a bad mother who left her child unattended waiting alone for a babysitter. So she gave a few more details cause those extra details in the past always won Cindy over.

She's lost her magic touch.

[legalmania]

Could be for appeal Legalmania...but I was wondering if Jose's 'Tip Line' might catch a lot of 'Casey Threats' from the public...and Jose might try to persuade a Judge for a change of venue with the recordings?

I think he would have a good case with just the media and internet coverage alone, but maybe your right he's trying to show through the tape recorded messages that his client couldn't get a fair trial.

[Barbara fl.]

I knew it, I knew it....I knew it was going to be denied.....Florida will not give in....they do not like being told what to do....especially in a case like this where it cose unnessary state funds due to Casey's lying......every request that is made will be denied.....JMO

[BJames]

I would not be a bit surprised if someone doesn't read that article about her radio, and send her an IPOD or another type electronic gadget where you can watch movies, tune in to the weather, the news or the inernet. Still wondering about that one suspicious character that put money in her account. Remember her? She lived in Florida except she didn't live in Florida she just used her friend's address and never saw the money order, just authorized her friend to send it to "her friend in jail".????? Any leads on that goldmine?

Hey January..this jail life thing is freaking me out.
Free food, warm bed...warm showers, books to read...
Can someone actually have an iPod in there?
I'm asking because it floors me what is 'free' to inmates...why have I worked so hard all my life and stayed 'honest'? Good grief...I know...for the 'freedom' to go pay my bils...:blink: !

[Neffy]

That's simply UNTRUE IMO Neffy.

http://skepdic.com/mpd.html

Nobody here is qualified to diagnose her, but given we know she has made it through at least ONE psych evaluation and it was ordered through the courts, it's fair game IMO.

I think she displays many of the symptoms myself. JMO tho.

A psych evaluation is pretty standard. Heck it's even used for placement once someone is found guilty. I just don't see how that makes the leap to something as rare as MPD.

[desmom]

IMO they are going to say she is mentally ill

Would Casey have to okay the mentally ill issue as a defense? Wouldn't that just confirm what Cindy said about her to her Ryan ("she is sociopath")?

[CANDYKISSES]

Guess that answers that question. :wink:

I think so too. After all, why would the PROSECUTOR LIE TO THE JUDGE?

I don't see it happening in this case myself.

Again, I will say that many things the Anthony clan tried to pull off had to sicken NeJame IMO.

I think that's part of why he parted ways too. :thumbdown:

[i_pickle]

Here is the thing I do not understand, everyone keeps saying there is no way Casey could take the stand. She will be destroyed. I agree! However Baez can not present evidence of the nanny story himself out of thin air! Attorneys can only present evidence not testify to it. What will he use to show the Zanny story? Cindy, George, Lee, no one has ever seen her!Good point. All they can do is call the A's and some of her friends to the stand to testify that she claimed there was a nanny.

I'm wondering, if they stick to the nanny defense, if they will claim that she's an illegal and that's why it's so hard to find her.

JMO

[Neffy]

Since Dexter's finished I'm not watching Showtime but have seen the ad for a new series with a MPD main character. I imagine that will induce more people to believe. That's not Casey's problem, IMO.

I love Dexter!

No not Casey's problem at all. She's prolific at keeping her lies straight to certain people and not everyone. Also when she's cornered to switch the subject.

[Barbara fl.]

Hey January..this jail life thing is freaking me out.
Free food, warm bed...warm showers, books to read...
Can someone actually have an iPod in there?
I'm asking because it floors me what is 'free' to inmates...why have I worked so hard all my life and stayed 'honest'? Good grief...I know...for the 'freedom' to go pay my bils...:blink: !



You have an excellent point...:laugh:

[lonetraveler]

It is so odd to me that the 100th episode of onetreehill has elements of CaseyA in it. the crazy nanny looks so much like her it's uncanny. She shades that seem to be such a prop for her, the interaction with this child, jamie. For those of you who've not seen it here is a short clip.
Uncle to the rescue, there are so many elements to this even down to the lyrics of the song. So, if Casey in her state of mind, whatever that might have been watched this; did she take from scenes in this episode?
Isnt it uncanny that even when she calls Jamie it sounds like "caylee"?

What do you all think? I dont know how many of you actually saw clips from the episode or not so Im posting it again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ptRZnuNtZ0

---
OMG, I watched the clip and I am shocked at how much the "nanny" looks like Casey. She is a dead ringer for her. I can see the possibility that Casey may have conjured up the entire "nanny" story for the kidnapping. For any of you who have not watched this, do so! Very uncanning.

[Lavenia]

Hey January..this jail life thing is freaking me out.
Free food, warm bed...warm showers, books to read...
Can someone actually have an iPod in there?
I'm asking because it floors me what is 'free' to inmates...why have I worked so hard all my life and stayed 'honest'? Good grief...I know...for the 'freedom' to go pay my bils...:blink: !

If there is a correctional institution that allows ipods, I'm sure the inmate or inmates family has to provide it. I can't imagine that they are allowed anywhere but some institutions allow a lot more privileges than others.

One of the biggest contraband problems plaguing prisons today is cell phones smuggled in by visitors and staff. Inmates are able to run their business while inside with a cell phone. If you are caught with one, though, you can be charged for attempted escape (or having an instrument of escape) and you get a lot of years tacked on your sentence. It's pretty common though.

[Neffy]

WHERE oh WHERE IS EXILED????

Isn't that the poster looking for this?

In this motion, the state argues that substantial licensing fees have been paid for pictures and video of Caylee taken while she was alive. That is why prosecutors want the judge to place special restrictions on digitized images of the remains before they hand them over to attorney Jose Baez and his defense team.

FROM THE ARTICLE... barf

Look at all us posters eating crow saying the Anthony's haven't been working! :glare:

[CANDYKISSES]

A psych evaluation is pretty standard. Heck it's even used for placement once someone is found guilty. I just don't see how that makes the leap to something as rare as MPD.

But this was your post I responded to Neffy...

Originally Posted by Neffy View Post
There is not one shred of evidence that's out there that points to this being Casey's problem. Not one fact except that she lies. That is a fact. That is in numerous LE reports.

Pathological lying I'll give you also.

Now anything else is purely rumour and lying was tagged onto MPD. C'mon already.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

IF you read the link, you will see that it's just not true. She does display other symptoms and I'll wait to see what the professionals found in their exam(s) as I think there is going to be more than the standard, but JMO right now.

[WillowInFlight]

I watched Perry Mason....him and Ironsides......loved those shows

Me too!!!! I loved Ironside, though I don't expect any Perry Mason moments as far as Casey is concerned. Though I do think we are going to hear some jaw dropping things.

[CANDYKISSES]

Look at all us posters eating crow saying the Anthony's haven't been working! :glare:

I think they are diligently working the system and collecting info on how to do so from various outlets including Garrison and NeJame, and then they drop these people like a dirty shirt (JMO THO).

After that, it wouldn't surprise me if the HEROES like KID FINDERS don't put a few ideas in as well. Let's not forget the Crime Solvers guy had to get a RESTRAINING ORDER on DENNIS IIRC.

Yep, they have been busy at work alright....ALL JMOO. :w00t:

[Regina.Lampert]

The Beaz team just keeps on giving....

It appears that during the hearing, Garcia of the Baez team told of his strategy of Casey pleading the 5th. At which time Mitnik of the Morgan team said he couldn't do that, knowing more legal stuff that appently the Baez team did. He explained, once they countersued, they put the "sword and the shield" concept out there. They cannot use the 5th admendment when they countersue.

Woo Hoo!

Something that the judge must figure out. 11:00 on Thursday.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8202223&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1



Many of us figured this out when we saw that bumbling baez filed a counter suit. He is amazingly incompetent, imo.

[smileyjoe]

Hey January..this jail life thing is freaking me out.
Free food, warm bed...warm showers, books to read...
Can someone actually have an iPod in there?
I'm asking because it floors me what is 'free' to inmates...why have I worked so hard all my life and stayed 'honest'? Good grief...I know...for the 'freedom' to go pay my bils...:blink: !


Well I know that my county jail doesn't even allow transistor radios.

BTW, I'm a good guy.

Not a bad guy.

lol.

Joe.

[kitty1182]

---
OMG, I watched the clip and I am shocked at how much the "nanny" looks like Casey. She is a dead ringer for her. I can see the possibility that Casey may have conjured up the entire "nanny" story for the kidnapping. For any of you who have not watched this, do so! Very uncanning.



They sure do favor, right down to the teeth..wow....

[marinewife5]

Regina.....think of other people for once......How else is Baez going to make any money on this unless he gets to put those pics in his book?...you know the Bestseller " Lawyering for Dummies":tonguewag:

I hate to be the poster that corrects other posters...but...the book is "Lawyering BY Dummies.

I do hope the state is successful in blocking any release of those photos to the public. The shameful profiting off of caylee is a crime in itself! JMO

[legalmania]

Good point. All they can do is call the A's and some of her friends to the stand to testify that she claimed there was a nanny.

I'm wondering, if they stick to the nanny defense, if they will claim that she's an illegal and that's why it's so hard to find her.

JMO

I believe he can bring it in through L.E.

[playnice]

The Beaz team just keeps on giving....

It appears that during the hearing, Garcia of the Baez team told of his strategy of Casey pleading the 5th. At which time Mitnik of the Morgan team said he couldn't do that, knowing more legal stuff that appently the Baez team did. He explained, once they countersued, they put the "sword and the shield" concept out there. They cannot use the 5th admendment when they countersue.

Woo Hoo!

Something that the judge must figure out. 11:00 on Thursday.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8202223&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1



Baez should have known that. We did.

[Neffy]

well lets think about this...........why should the state put the A's in a favorable light? they won't even talk without FULL immunity......that speaks volumes to me.

That's true.

But I'm sure they're wondering just like we are how they've been able to earn a living. Caylee is apparently priceless in one aspect.

[smileyjoe]

I hate to be the poster that corrects other posters...but...the book is "Lawyering BY Dummies.

I do hope the state is successful in blocking any release of those photos to the public. The shameful profiting off of caylee is a crime in itself! JMO

It seems that the state of Florida has already set a precedence concerning such things with Dale Earnhart.

Probably won't be denied.

I hope.

Joe.

[Mimi428]

She DID try to say that she took Caylee to Zenaida's apartment, but changed her story when they confronted her about that little fact that the apartment had been vacant for MONTHS.. At that point, how could she say that she took her into the apartment? Her lies were being unraveled before her eyes.

So then she adjusted her story and claimed she left Caylee at the bottom of the stairs.

Right-o!

And that is how we know she is NOT dissociative. If she really was, it would have caused her to become upset, she would have shown that she was confused, anxious, fearful - & all those other normal emotions people have when they are convinced something is true & someone contradicts them.

But, since she is not dissociative but a cold-blooded liar, she just segues into a different variation of the lie. "Ohhh, you say the apartment was really empty? Oh! Yeah! I forgot, I DIDN'T actually take her to the empty apartment, I just left her downstairs. Yeah. That's the ticket". (paraphrase, not claiming those were her exact words)

JMO

[jammies]

I'm actually hoping for more of a MacGiver type of trial.....Cindy losing it when Casey confesses at the defense table, Lee hoping that no one notices the new 2009 Mustang bought with The Caylee fund money. A confession from Cindy to George that she has been sleeping with Jose Baez...."But I was only doing it to save the family!"

I'd buy a case of Pop Secret popcorn to watch that episode...Extra Movie-Time Butter


If Cindy is in that courtroom you KNOW she's gonna lose it!! It's a given!

[BJames]

Well I know that my county jail doesn't even allow transistor radios.

BTW, I'm a good guy.

Not a bad guy.

lol.

Joe.

Well hey Joe...I don't know what my County Jail allows..maybe I should check it out? Maybe we even get paid to stay...who knows?
BTW...I'm a good guy too :rolleyes:

[Lavenia]

It seems that the state of Florida has already set a precedence concerning such things with Dale Earnhart.

Probably won't be denied.

I hope.

Joe.

But with DE's pics, wasn't the family asking that they not be released under the Sunshine Laws? Isn't this a lot different when the state intercedes in lieu of the family and asks for them not to be released? I can't understand the state's standing in this matter (even though I hope they're successful).

[BJames]

I'm actually hoping for more of a MacGiver type of trial.....Cindy losing it when Casey confesses at the defense table, Lee hoping that no one notices the new 2009 Mustang bought with The Caylee fund money. A confession from Cindy to George that she has been sleeping with Jose Baez...."But I was only doing it to save the family!"

I'd buy a case of Pop Secret popcorn to watch that episode...Extra Movie-Time Butter


OMGosh...I'm rolling here.

Hey...it's the Anthony's...who the heck knows :blink: <<<I like that guy :)

[legalmania]

I hate to be the poster that corrects other posters...but...the book is "Lawyering BY Dummies.

I do hope the state is successful in blocking any release of those photos to the public. The shameful profiting off of kaylee is a crime in itself! JMO

Unfortunately tabloid money somehow gets this info. Remember what they did to Nicole.

[Neffy]

But this was your post I responded to Neffy...

Originally Posted by Neffy View Post
There is not one shred of evidence that's out there that points to this being Casey's problem. Not one fact except that she lies. That is a fact. That is in numerous LE reports.

Pathological lying I'll give you also.

Now anything else is purely rumour and lying was tagged onto MPD. C'mon already.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

IF you read the link, you will see that it's just not true. She does display other symptoms and I'll wait to see what the professionals found in their exam(s) as I think there is going to be more than the standard, but JMO right now.

ok here's my point.
Fever
Chills
Aches
are all signs of cold.

Also bubonic plague. I'm not willing to make that leap as I just see a pathological liar that is very prolific at it and tells certain people certain stories up until the time she started get 3 hots and a cot!

She never told her new friends about her invisible friends she took trips with to Jacksonville or Tampa. She's flaunted the "event planner" position which she was able to obtain a $400 a week Nanny.

She's a liar who made herself look more important. She knows who to lie to and when and about what.

I see absolutley no other signs but I'm not a psych analyst either.

I don't doubt that she can be labeled a sociapath or psychopath.

MPD? uh uh

[happy2bme]

Your correct, the family went to court to stop the pictures from being released, this is a little different.

O/T anyone seen this yet

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/01/where_is_adam_herrman.php

For a month after she vanished, no one reported Caylee Anthony as missing. This has been just one of the intriguing, appalling aspects of the Anthony case. But compared to the length of time since Adam Herrman's disappearance, a month is nothing. No one has seen Adam, who was 11 or 12 when he vanished, since 1999.

I read about this on fox. Sad.

[smileyjoe]

Well hey Joe...I don't know what my County Jail allows..maybe I should check it out? Maybe we even get paid to stay...who knows?
BTW...I'm a good guy too :rolleyes:


In a way you probably do pay. With your tax dollars.

In the event that your county jail exceeds maximum capacity (ratio of CO's or DD's to inmates, or fire codes) your county jail pays another county a certain amount per day to house said inmates.

Sometimes this gets pretty expensive.

Joe.

[Mimi428]

She would relish that we are talking about her 7 ways from Sunday and the attention!

Yes, she would. She would lap it up & use it as another indication of how it is just soooo unfair for her to be denied the ability to go out & live her beautiful life. Darn that family of hers, darn the DA's office, darn LE & all the rest of them. Why did they want to talk to her anyway?

Anyone know how Florida deals with request for interviews with prisoners? I know she won't be giving any interviews right now, but I am wondering about the future, after she has been convicted & locked up for a few years.

[Neffy]

It seems that the state of Florida has already set a precedence concerning such things with Dale Earnhart.

Probably won't be denied.

I hope.

Joe.

Yes that's already there and they're still going that extra mile with the Anthony Family.

That's bad!

[WillowInFlight]

Yes, she would. She would lap it up & use it as another indication of how it is just soooo unfair for her to be denied the ability to go out & live her beautiful life. Darn that family of hers, darn the DA's office, darn LE & all the rest of them. Why did they want to talk to her anyway?

Anyone know how Florida deals with request for interviews with prisoners? I know she won't be giving any interviews right now, but I am wondering about the future, after she has been convicted & locked up for a few years.

I can see her agreeing to be interviewed by Stone Phillips.

[smileyjoe]

But with DE's pics, wasn't the family asking that they not be released under the Sunshine Laws? Isn't this a lot different when the state intercedes in lieu of the family and asks for them not to be released? I can't understand the state's standing in this matter (even though I hope they're successful).

Well yes, it is different. But how would it look for the Ant's to fight a ruling FOR release?

Although, they haven't been worried about how they are perceived so far, have they?

Waiting to see what everyone does concerning this information.

Joe.

[joolz]

ok here's my point.
Fever
Chills
Aches
are all signs of cold.

Also bubonic plague. I'm not willing to make that leap as I just see a pathological liar that is very prolific at it and tells certain people certain stories up until the time she started get 3 hots and a cot!

She never told her new friends about her invisible friends she took trips with to Jacksonville or Tampa. She's flaunted the "event planner" position which she was able to obtain a $400 a week Nanny.

She's a liar who made herself look more important. She knows who to lie to and when and about what.

I see absolutley no other signs but I'm not a psych analyst either.

I don't doubt that she can be labeled a sociapath or psychopath.

MPD? uh uh

ITA Neffy. If you've ever known a pathological liar, you know that you wind up wishing they would find another personality to inhabit! :mad:

Seriously, I'm not a psych analyst either, but I don't see anything that points to MPD or any kind of dissociative disorder. Casey is just a nonstop liar who switches from one lie to another without blinking, and who shifts and changes the lies to fit the circumstances.

I'd like to know what other posters are seeing as MPD - but if it's the fact that she switched personas to fit boyfriends, that definitely won't make the argument for me. jmo

[BJames]

Thanks goodness the State is working on behalf of this poor child...it seems that they are doing more to protect her than anyone ever did in her short life..or even after it.

[Lavenia]

Yes, she would. She would lap it up & use it as another indication of how it is just soooo unfair for her to be denied the ability to go out & live her beautiful life. Darn that family of hers, darn the DA's office, darn LE & all the rest of them. Why did they want to talk to her anyway?

Anyone know how Florida deals with request for interviews with prisoners? I know she won't be giving any interviews right now, but I am wondering about the future, after she has been convicted & locked up for a few years.

I'm anxious to see how she manipulates the media and I'm also anxious to see what kind of game she puts on through pen-pal type stuff fleecing people, (men mostly), out of money. She's gonna get game somehow where the money and the attention is.