Tuesday Jan 6th. - Part 2

[SavannahStar]

Oh Wow! I think that I still hope he comes fwd to protect Caylee's interests. If for nothing else. I really do believe that her paternity is very important. And if this goes to trial, it will come out. I just dont see this case going to trial? Its up for discussion in my house it sure is. Im of the thought it wont ever go to trial.
Kat


Why do you think it will come out at trial? I don't see why it would, but I'm willing to listen.

I still say if he didn't care to protect her interests during her life, why would he now? Where was his financial support and love and concern while she was alive?

[Neffy]

If he wanted to be the knight in shining armour then why didn't he come forward and demand to financially support her and have visitation and be a part of her life while she was alive? He sure didn't respect her then.

Casey "chose" Jesse to be Caylee's father.

How about the fact that she told him it was Jesse if she told him at all?

[joolz]

I don't necessarily believe their stories either. Not one of them.

But I fail to see how a woman doesn't know who the father of their child is. Or have a REAL REAL good idea.

Not to be too graphic but that's hardly possible unless the woman was sleeping with hundreds of guys over a three-day period. And we have no indication this was true of Casey four years ago. None.

I'm not at all defending her for anything at all but to say she "doesn't know" who the father is, doesn't make sense at all.

She knows but doesn't want others to know. And that is her right.

If Casey had a one-night stand (or several) it's very possible that she only knows or suspects who the father is but very little about the guy - like his last name or where he lived. jmo

[Lavenia]

Who's Tara?

Isn't that Mark Hawkin's "psycho" ex-wife?

[SavannahStar]

If Casey had a one-night stand (or several) it's very possible that she only knows or suspects who the father is but very little about the guy - like his last name or where he lived. jmo


That I can agree with. That is possible.

[SavannahStar]

This sentence strikes me as just plain sick. What kind of people trademark or copyright their dead murdered granddaughter.

I think there was discussion earlier about whether or not that is true. I left for a while though....

[legalmania]

I have a quick question before you go Kat! (Glad to see you!) If ZFG is successful with her suit against Casey then would the money bypass Casey if she is convicted and then first pay ZFG before the grandparents?

I can answer that the first to be paid is the attorneys and IRS any estate in Florida that is more than 600,000 is taxable then comes any bills from her estate.

[Neffy]

That reminds me. Casey knew Jesse wasn't the father but she wasn't going to back down either. That test had to prove her wrong!

Nope, she hasn't changed much at all. I'd say anything Jesse would say would be moot regarding her "changing" since they were engaged. Like someone in love, saw what they wanted to see.

[Mamie]

I think it's because she and Cindy have always been at war. When it came to the house, family issues, even George taking her side, Cindy always won. Caylee was the one sure weapon Casey had and in the end, sick as it is, she won. She beat Cindy.

Yep she won. She not only beat Cindy, she left her broken forever. JMO

[barskin&co.]

OK then Caylee has half siblings! Who has more right them or the Anthonys. Granted the Anthony's RAN to that finish line so this is probably moot anyways not to mention the story may or may not be true either but still.

Please...you believe that story?

[*MoonRider*]

If he wanted to be the knight in shining armour then why didn't he come forward and demand to financially support her and have visitation and be a part of her life while she was alive? He sure didn't respect her then.

Kind of hard to respect Casey don't you think? IMO Cindy wouldn't allow it anyway because it would take away her control. I just am sick and tired of the Anthony's cashing in on poor Caylee and I pray someone will come forward who doesn't have money on the brain. MOO

[SavannahStar]

Casey "chose" Jesse to be Caylee's father.

How about the fact that she told him it was Jesse if she told him at all?

By "him" do you mean the real father? I guess if he really thought he could be the father, he would want paternity testing done. Insist on it.

[joolz]

That I can agree with. That is possible.

And if that is what happened, then I doubt the guy ever had any idea that he had fathered a child.

[openminded]

I bet they're not.

I wonder how much of the 'licensing fees' went towards Casey's legal 'team.'


I wondered that as well. I can't really see Baez being the ring master of the circus out of the goodness of his heart.

[CuriousJo]

Here's the quote:

VAN SUSTEREN: Who's the father? I mean, that's the other big mystery that we don't know.

CINDY ANTHONY: Caylee's never had a father. He was a friend of Casey's. He's never been in Caylee's life. He's not on her birth certificate. He was a friend of Casey's that lives out of state. By the time Caylee was born, he had already started another family, and he passed away earlier in the year. And again, his family never had knowledge of Caylee. And that was a mutual thing that Casey and he had agreed upon, that he was not going to be part of Caylee's life. This is her life. Excuse me.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

-It almost sounds like the father was married or engaged. However, we don't know if Casey told Cindy the truth about Caylees father. So, who knows ??? Caseys' childhood friend said that he was a "shy guy" . But, even she admits Casey lies, so who knows? Maybe he was some one night stand from clubbing.......

[killerqueen]

Let me remind you of your first words, "one of Casey's stories..."

Now, are you still wondering about her half-siblings?

b&c, that's got to be the funniest post of the day. Thank you for that moment of levity in the middle of all of this sadness and anger.

[Motomom]

Oh Wow! I think that I still hope he comes fwd to protect Caylee's interests. If for nothing else. I really do believe that her paternity is very important. And if this goes to trial, it will come out. I just dont see this case going to trial? Its up for discussion in my house it sure is. Im of the thought it wont ever go to trial.
Kat

If he hasn't come fwd yet to protect Caylee's interests, it's doubtful he ever will.

[legalmania]

I think there was discussion earlier about whether or not that is true. I left for a while though....

You can't copyright names, titles you can only copyright, trademark or services mark. If they had a store called Casey Marie Anthony music, or clothes.

[Rayosunshine]

Lawd! You have no idea! Was shrimp cocktail on that list, IIRC? You shoulda heard NG about THAT.......:laugh:

I bet that is some yummy shrimp cocktail. Yuck!

[SavannahStar]

And if that is what happened, then I doubt the guy ever had any idea that he had fathered a child.

That's possible. But then too, we haven't heard anyone state that she was into one night stands with guys back then four years ago.

But I hear ya, that is possible. That is the only way I can see that there is a father who might not have a clue he is the father. Otherwise, no.

I believe it's someone who knows but did not want the responsibilities, and that was okay with Casey and her parents, they were happy to be sole support and sole family.

[Neffy]

Please...you believe that story?

Darn you Barskin can't you just humour me :tonguewag:

[SavannahStar]

You can't copyright names, titles you can only copyright, trademark or services mark. If they had a store called Casey Marie Anthony music, or clothes.

Okay so where is that rumor coming from?

[legalmania]

Katprint pointed out above, which I missed, that in Florida there is a law or Statute that says that if you murdered the victim, you are automatically disqualified from inheriting anything from their estate. So this changes the playing field. She goes on to say that if the Anthony's are deemed as accomplices, then the estate goes to the next of kin from there which may be the great-grandparents.

If she's found guilty.

[legalmania]

Okay so where is that rumor coming from?

What rumor? I was doing something else and missed it.

[SavannahStar]

I am really having a difficult time understanding why this child's possible father has not already come forward on his own. Either for legitimate reasons or for the money to be made in this case. Maybe he has and we do not know it yet, or maybe he has no clue what he is potentially losing. I would think everyone who had sex with her that year would be coming forward actually.

I don't think he would want to be involved in this mess at all. And I think "money to be made" is rather nebulous......easier said than done.

[Neffy]

Okay so where is that rumor coming from?

Oh for pete sake, did I type it wrong. That's what I meant EVERTHING CAYLEE pics, vids whatever has been copyrighted or trademarked by the Anthony's.

[SavannahStar]

What rumor? I was doing something else and missed it.

That the Anthonys have copyrighted/trademarked the name Caylee Marie Anthony.

[SavannahStar]

Oh for pete sake, did I type it wrong. That's what I meant EVERTHING CAYLEE pics, vids whatever has been copyrighted or trademarked by the Anthony's.

Well HAS anything been copyrighted or trademarked by the Anthonys? That's what I'm asking!

[Neffy]

What rumor? I was doing something else and missed it.

There is NO rumour except someone saying there's one. GEEZ.

I said everything Caylee 's been copyrighted. I wasn't specific.

[killerqueen]

I am really having a difficult time understanding why this child's possible father has not already come forward on his own. Either for legitimate reasons or for the money to be made in this case. Maybe he has and we do not know it yet, or maybe he has no clue what he is potentially losing. I would think everyone who had sex with her that year would be coming forward actually.

Unless it's someone who really DOES have a family and a happy life and doesn't want it all destroyed over some one night stand who killed a child he never knew he had until he saw her on the news?

[Neffy]

Well HAS anything been copyrighted or trademarked by the Anthonys? That's what I'm asking!

Oh for the love of......I'm still saying it wrong Licensing. I meant Licensing.

[Lavenia]

From the Anthony's own website.

Help Find Caylee (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/).

It shows 'Caylee Marie Anthony™' right there on the site.

WHOMP! There it is!

[SavannahStar]

From the Anthony's own website.

Help Find Caylee (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/).

It shows 'Caylee Marie Anthony™' right there on the site.


That TM sign is after the words "Help Find Caylee" (the website), not "Caylee Marie Anthony".

[Lavenia]

That TM sign is after the words "Help Find Caylee" (the website), not "Caylee Marie Anthony".

Look down. It's also after Caylee Marie Anthony.

[SavannahStar]

Oh for the love of......I'm still saying it wrong Licensing. I meant Licensing.

I think it's the name of the website that is trademarked.

[SavannahStar]

Look down. It's also after Caylee Marie Anthony.


And what is this supposed to mean?

[legalmania]

That the Anthonys have copyrighted/trademarked the name Caylee Marie Anthony.

Then maybe they put some kind of logo or special font to it then nobody could use it, but just to put her name every Caylee Marie Anthony would have rights to that name. This was an eight week course I took and it's hard to put it in a paragraph and make sense.

[Neffy]

From the Anthony's own website.

Help Find Caylee (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/).

It shows 'Caylee Marie Anthony™' right there on the site.

No rumor whatsoever.

OK Donations fund whatever that sham organization is (yes sham IMO) is trademarked, the others licensed, pics, vids whatever.

Thank you LS for not leaving me spinning in a room looking up because I used the wrong word.

[joolz]

WHOMP! There it is!

Ugh, there is something about seeing that trademark symbol by her name that turns my stomach!barf

[Lavenia]

And what is this supposed to mean?

You said the TM is not after the name Caylee Marie Anthony and it is on that site. What the heck that means I have no idea, but it IS there.

[Neffy]

By "him" do you mean the real father? I guess if he really thought he could be the father, he would want paternity testing done. Insist on it.

I was replying to your post that you said the real father didn't want to be involved.

In essence I replied he probably didn't know or was told Jessie is the baby's father.

[SavannahStar]

You said the TM is not after the name Caylee Marie Anthony and it is on that site. What the heck that means I have no idea, but it IS there.


Thank you, I saw it. (And thank you for your courteous replies.)

[FrankieBones1]

Wow now we have a gaggle of MR's combing the recovery site.
Why would Leonard mention September as the month that the MR was there? Wasn't it in August and then again on Dec. 11?

and who are the two or three other meter readers that showed up on the same day?

And what's this about the Meter reader's supervisor being a neighbour of Cindy and George?

Leonard sees a conspiracy; I do not.

[ConchGirl]

From the Anthony's own website.

Help Find Caylee (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/).

It shows 'Caylee Marie Anthony™' right there on the site.

No rumor whatsoever.

From the thank you link on the site it says this

All funds donated to the trust fund will go directly towards funding the efforts in finding Caylee. Funds are currently being used to pay for fliers, t-shirts, water for volunteers, etc. Once Caylee is brought home all remaining funds will be donated to charities that help the families of missing children. The family does not benefit financially from any donations made to the trust fund, and it is being administered by a third party (Jody A. Parker). If you are interested in donating you may make a deposit at any Wachovia Bank in the Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony Trust Account:
Make the check or money order payable to "Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony". Any questions or request for contribution deposits may be directed to Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker. - jodyaparker@gmail.com


:cursing: I thought Caylee was already found. JMO

[joolz]

don't know he's the father. never suspected he's the father. too whacked out when he made babies. doesn't care how many babies he makes. too whacked out to know who he was with making babies.

just guesses. I've seen young men become a father 3X in 3 month's time before they're old enough to legally apply for a learners permit. This is how many chose to live. How many of the baby-making machines know who their own father's are? Millions in the U.S. don't.
Millions don't give a hoot. Even the new pres repirmanded them while talking to a group. Kudos to him or anybody for that not that it's helped.

That is SO sadly accurate Adalena! I'm kind of surprised that people here think the father would necessarily know or even suspect that he is a father, especially if it was completely casual. I'm still betting that the father is completely unaware. jmo

[Motomom]

From the Anthony's own website.

Help Find Caylee (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/).

It shows 'Caylee Marie Anthony™' right there on the site.

No rumor whatsoever.

Maybe they just learned how to put the tm there and did it?

[SavannahStar]

Maybe they just learned how to put the tm there and did it?


LOL. Who did the website?

[Lavenia]

Maybe they just learned how to put the tm there and did it?

Either way, by actually profiteering from the name or LYING about whether it's in fact trademarked...:mad:

[legalmania]

And what is this supposed to mean?


I can see "Help Find Caylee" but Caylee Marie Anthony isn't going to fly. Somebody could write a book right now called Caylee Marie Anthony I don't believe anybody could sue.

[ConchGirl]

Why do they still have Caylee on their website with "have you seen me"? I smell a rat. JMO

http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/

[joolz]

Why would Leonard mention September as the month that the MR was there? Wasn't it in August and then again on Dec. 11?

and who are the two or three other meter readers that showed up on the same day?

And what's this about the Meter reader's supervisor being a neighbour of Cindy and George?

Leonard sees a conspiracy; I do not.

:seeya: Frankie. I don't see a conspiracy either. But don't forget, Lenny has a very special kind of vision - the kind that allows him to keep on spinning in order to stay center stage at all times, directly in front of the camera. :biggrin:

[Mamie]

OK Donations fund whatever that sham organization is (yes sham IMO) is trademarked, the others licensed, pics, vids whatever.

Thank you LS for not leaving me spinning in a room looking up because I used the wrong word.


How much does it cost to get things trademarked? I mean each different thing, like the "Help Find Caylee" that TM'd and the "Caylee Marie Anthony" that's also TM'd are two different things, but I imagine they have more. How much does each of these cost----since this is not a wealthy family, I'm asking. JMO

[SavannahStar]

I can see "Help Find Caylee" but Caylee Marie Anthony isn't going to fly. Somebody could write a book right now called Caylee Marie Anthony I don't believe anybody could sue.

I agree.

Well I'm done with the subject. It seems much ado about nothing to me. I don't know who exactly put the TM mark there or what it means and it seems like just another nit-picky thing to get all worked up about.

[joolz]

Hey this case has received a lot of attention, everyone who has ever slept with her has by now wondered wth they were thinking! IMO Or at least they should be!!!

Only if they remember that it ever happened. :wink:

[legalmania]

Why they would want people to believe they trademarked their granddaughter's name remains a mystery.

It was probably Baez who suggested it. Thinking somebody might make money off of it.

[tomsgirl]

Oh Wow! I think that I still hope he comes fwd to protect Caylee's interests. If for nothing else. I really do believe that her paternity is very important. And if this goes to trial, it will come out. I just dont see this case going to trial? Its up for discussion in my house it sure is. Im of the thought it wont ever go to trial.
Kat

Just curious, How do you think it will play out?

[Lavenia]

It was probably Baez who suggested it. Thinking somebody might make money off of it.

That's the rat I think I smell. <sniff sniff>

[SavannahStar]

No they did not. Look here it shows applications and granted ones too. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=tess&state=29quv.1.1

Hey once the idea is out there people aren't going to let it go. You can say it wasn't TM'd until you're blue in the face.

[Mamie]

:seeya: Frankie. I don't see a conspiracy either. But don't forget, Lenny has a very special kind of vision - the kind that allows him to keep on spinning in order to stay center stage at all times, directly in front of the camera. :biggrin:

I'm not sticking up for everything he says but you can't help but like the guy----atleast I like him. The world is a much more interesting place with Lenny in it and talking. I think most people like him and find him easy to talk to which is probably how he gets so much information, maybe some embellished and some no need to. LOL. JMO


Um----I mean most people of people he associates with, not those of us on the board, here. JMO. Thx.

[Lavenia]

Only if they remember that it ever happened. :wink:

KEY PHRASE! RED FLAG! :lol:

[Kara]

Is this conversation confusing you?

A minute ago you knew exactly what it meant.
I'm just curious...based upon your arguments...can I not use the term LandSharkII without violating your copyright??

[SavannahStar]

It was probably Baez who suggested it. Thinking somebody might make money off of it.

It probably was an attorney's idea, yes.

[llylabrat]

Why do they still have Caylee on their website with "have you seen me"? I smell a rat. JMO

http://www.kidfindersnetwork.com/


I smell a rous (rodent of unusual size!). Why is Caylee the only childs photo on their sight? A child that has unfortunately been found deceased???

[Lavenia]

Hey once the idea is out there people aren't going to let it go. You can say it wasn't TM'd until you're blue in the face.

Oh I COMPLETELY believe it's not TM'd. I think it's more telling that they have a TM symbol when it's NOT in fact TM'd. A tiger doesn't change it's stripes apparently.

[Motomom]

LOL. Who did the website?

I have no clue.. but my cousins sociopathic daughter puts the little tm next to her name on her myspace.. to feel important..in some way.

[SandyO]

If this man was nefarious enough to abandon his own child, (assuming he knew she got pregnant) then he would be after the money deals too for the licensing of these stories, photos etc. Unless of course he really has no clue about either issue.

I think he really must be dead, or he really wants nothing to do with any of this because every person on this planet has heard about this case.

[panokatana]

Maybe they got a GoDaddy (or like) account and THINK that's a trademark. :shrug: I tried cayleemarieanthony.com and it said I was forbidden.

JMO

[SavannahStar]

Oh I COMPLETELY believe it's not TM'd. I think it's more telling that they have a TM symbol when it's NOT in fact TM'd. A tiger doesn't change it's stripes apparently.

As one poster suggested, I think it was probably on the advice of an attorney.

I doubt we will ever know.

So that ends that. For me anyway. :smile:

[SavannahStar]

I have no clue.. but my cousins sociopathic daughter puts the little tm next to her name on her myspace.. to feel important..in some way.

Heeeeeeeeheeeeeeeee!

[llylabrat]

I agree.

Well I'm done with the subject. It seems much ado about nothing to me. I don't know who exactly put the TM mark there or what it means and it seems like just another nit-picky thing to get all worked up about.

Maybe not us, but someone should get worked up. If prosecutors are concerned about turning over photos of Caylee's remains because they fear profiteering, well, this smacks of the same thing IMO.

[ConchGirl]

KEY PHRASE! RED FLAG! :lol:

When she lies she always tells the truth. The Nanny is Amy or Ricardo in Casey speak. GMAB

[summer4meplz]

From the thank you link on the site it says this

All funds donated to the trust fund will go directly towards funding the efforts in finding Caylee. Funds are currently being used to pay for fliers, t-shirts, water for volunteers, etc. Once Caylee is brought home all remaining funds will be donated to charities that help the families of missing children. The family does not benefit financially from any donations made to the trust fund, and it is being administered by a third party (Jody A. Parker). If you are interested in donating you may make a deposit at any Wachovia Bank in the Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony Trust Account:
Make the check or money order payable to "Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony". Any questions or request for contribution deposits may be directed to Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker. - jodyaparker@gmail.com


:cursing: I thought Caylee was already found. JMO


I might be confusing names, but is Jody A. Parker, Mallory's mother? tia and good evening everyone....

[Lavenia]

As one poster suggested, I think it was probably on the advice of an attorney.

I doubt we will ever know.

So that ends that. For me anyway. :smile:

It's the hangers on, like the attorneys and Kidfinders that I have the most trouble with (besides Casey). To me, they are the true opportunists.

[joolz]

I'm not sticking up for everything he says but you can't help but like the guy----atleast I like him. The world is a much more interesting place with Lenny in it and talking. I think most people like him and find him easy to talk to which is probably how he gets so much information, maybe some embellished and some no need to. LOL. JMO


Um----I mean most people of people he associates with, not those of us on the board, here. JMO. Thx.

I agree, I think he's entertaining, but just when I start thinking he is consistently reliable he does or says something off the charts and undermines his own credibility. jmo

[Neffy]

How much does it cost to get things trademarked? I mean each different thing, like the "Help Find Caylee" that TM'd and the "Caylee Marie Anthony" that's also TM'd are two different things, but I imagine they have more. How much does each of these cost----since this is not a wealthy family, I'm asking. JMO

Honestly I don't know.

[Lavenia]

I might be confusing names, but is Jody A. Parker, Mallory's mother? tia and good evening everyone....

Hey Summer! Yes, that is Mallory's mom.

[legalmania]

I smell a rous (rodent of unusual size!). Why is Caylee the only childs photo on their sight? A child that has unfortunately been found deceased???

They could have at least put a banner from the missing kids network to promote other missing children.

[JHP]

Still planning their defense strategy perhaps. who knows?

For the defense strategy they might put a sketch of Zenieda on their new spinoff.

Nannyfinders website

[Kara]

Hey this case has received a lot of attention, everyone who has ever slept with her has by now wondered wth they were thinking! IMO Or at least they should be!!!
If a person doesn't follow crime news, it might be possible to not know. I saw Jonbenet's face on the cover of every tabloid known to man w/o knowing what was up with erh. I just saw it while buying groceries. It was long after the fact that I came to know who she was, how she died and why her face was famous.

Of course, I never slept with her mother/father.....

[SavannahStar]

If you hire a lawyer to do this for you, his fees might go anywhere between a few hundred to a grand depending on how much business you bring him every year. That being said, I think there is a fee schedule somewhere, google is your friend. Anyways my question would be, what difference does it make since apparently the Anthony's now have plenty of money to throw around since they apparently sold their pictures/videos of Caylee to some network or media outlet. Dispicable.

January we've been agreeing so much lately I almost hate to disagree with you. I doubt the Anthonys have "plenty of money." I think the pictures/videos were sold by Casey to pay for her defense. If the A's got any of it, I'd be surprised. And even then, in their present situation, "plenty" of money sure ain't "plenty" of money. But when you hear about them buying a new Rolls Royce and moving to the villa on the French Riveria and living in luxury for the rest of their life, let me know.

Good night. :drool:

[Lavenia]

I believe that as long as you have a patent or trademark pending, you can use the symbol. As long as you have filed the paperwork and are in the process of waiting for your patent to come in (or trademark) as the case may be. That's fine.

That TM has been there an awfully long time. How long does it take for the trademark to come through?

[SavannahStar]

Savannah, as long as they sent the paperwork and the fees in, while they are waiting for their patent or their trademark, they can use the symbol. It's legal and it's proper. Since the Anthony's have sold pictures apparently, and are in the money by at least 6 figures, they most likely had an attorney do the paperwork for them and their trademark is pending.

Why don't you think Casey sold the photos?

[legalmania]

Honestly I don't know.

It cost hundreds because of the intense search you have to do. Copyright is easy you can do that online but trademark my friend charges $900.

[Motomom]

Can I say Oh Wow for the umteenth time tonight? In answer to my emails pms and otherwise it is all that is coming out a big fat OH MY.

I wonder how that would work if there was then a rift between these two families? Third parties dont seem to work well with this camp. Now that is a fact. How many spokespeople lawyers and people have dropped like flies?

Casey's Casualties™

[JHP]

Why don't you think Casey sold the photos?

Casey was in jail. How did she sell them?

[Pruddennce]

OH MY!!!
(!!!!!!) :cursing: that is really awful.

Kidfinders Network: what is additionally atrocious:

There should be a disclosure on the front page depicting her poster that Caylee's REMAINS have been found. They have her poster there still maintaining she is missing.

and when clicking on the poster it takes you to here:

http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/

with this statement:

'WE KNOW NOW THIS PRECIOUS CHILD IS SAFE".

????

She is not SAFE.

she's deceased!

secondly, a televised memorial? ching ching. its incredulous.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[SavannahStar]

Casey was in jail. How did she sell them?

Through her attorney.

[llylabrat]

Ummm... most likely because they have no photos of any kids they've actually found.

Because Kid Finders has never searched for any missing kids, let alone found a missing kid.


They don't have room for missing children because of all the advertisements! I had never heard of them before...any one know why they don't put any other childrens pics on their site? If they are going to bilk people out of their $$ looks like they'd be good bilkers and put up a pic or two.

[Motomom]

I think he really must be dead, or he really wants nothing to do with any of this because every person on this planet has heard about this case.

Well that isn't true, I actually know people who had/have NO clue about this case. i don't think he wants to be known.. or doesn't know and it just doesn't seem to matter anymore.

[Kara]

You can use it all day long.

Although... Jimmy Buffet might have a problem with it.
Does Jimmy have a problem with you using it? Or do you pay him a royalty fee?

[ConchGirl]

January we've been agreeing so much lately I almost hate to disagree with you. I doubt the Anthonys have "plenty of money." I think the pictures/videos were sold by Casey to pay for her defense. If the A's got any of it, I'd be surprised. And even then, in their present situation, "plenty" of money sure ain't "plenty" of money. But when you hear about them buying a new Rolls Royce and moving to the villa on the French Riveria and living in luxury for the rest of their life, let me know.

Good night. :drool:

Who's paying the mortgage SS? Who's been selling exclusive photos and videos. Who is not working since day 1 or 31? (Casey never worked since Caylee was born) I wouldn't say plenty of money but could you live off of your dead granddaugher? They all make me sick. IMO They are shopping for exclusive photos of the memorial in my opinion because now that Caylee was found their options are drying up to keep on the gravy train of a poor defenseless child. IMO:cursing:

[joolz]

On NG tonight it showed the video tapes by Gale St. John and wow the area was so think with foilage that there could have been 200 people out there and I think they would have had one heck of a time finding her- to me I almost laughed thinking: that dingbat (Casey IMO) put that child out there when the underbrush was so thick not even thinking ahead that in the winter - Caylee was going to be laying out there in the open. January- i have been convinced, No Plan at All. IMOO

ITA, no plan at all. But I hate using the word "dingbat" for Casey - it's far too benign as far as I'm concerned.:ohmy:

[Mamie]

If you hire a lawyer to do this for you, his fees might go anywhere between a few hundred to a grand depending on how much business you bring him every year. That being said, I think there is a fee schedule somewhere, google is your friend. Anyways my question would be, what difference does it make since apparently the Anthony's now have plenty of money to throw around since they apparently sold their pictures/videos of Caylee to some network or media outlet. Dispicable.


I thought that was Baez that did that, not G & C. Not that all of them don't have pointed little hearts, but I thought Baez did that to get some cash flow coming in to his company, the wife's got to be getting some alimony or needs something paid. Anyhow, I thought it was G & C that was getting everything TM'd and they don't have a bunch of money---yet that we've heard. (Geez, my computer is slower than a seven-year itch tonight!!)

[SavannahStar]

Well, I don't know Savannah, because only one page back, someone posted an article about the Anthony's getting 150 grand for selling their movies. Also Drew Petrimoux on Nancy Grace mentioned the same thing. That the Anthony's sold the home videos to some national tv network for a lot of dough. So I don't know. Either way, though, filing a trademark or a patent isn't something that a regular Joe would not be able to afford. People do it on their own (kits you know) all the time.


Will talk tomorrow. I've been off sick with a cold for two days and have to go back to work though. Have a good evening all.

So I am on topic: I'll read that article again. Not sure the Anthonys were mentioned specifically.

[Neffy]

Hey once the idea is out there people aren't going to let it go. You can say it wasn't TM'd until you're blue in the face.

No license, trademark, registration nothing and collecting funds?

I can't believe the Anthony's would do something like that. :)

[Lavenia]

ITA, no plan at all. But I hate using the word "dingbat" for Casey - it's far too benign as far as I'm concerned.:ohmy:

LOL. Too true! Dingbat is Edith Bunker. Odious Creature is Casey.

[llylabrat]

Well that isn't true, I actually know people who had/have NO clue about this case. i don't think he wants to be known.. or doesn't know and it just doesn't seem to matter anymore.

I was telling my nail tech about this case on Saturday. She only had the slightest idea what was going on.

[Motomom]

It's the hangers on, like the attorneys and Kidfinders that I have the most trouble with (besides Casey). To me, they are the true opportunists.

Hangers on.. lol bunch of dingleberries I'd say.

The attorneys are needed though, I woudn't put them in the dingle category..And LP looked pretty good, but not in that way, tonight. He was tanned and smiling and I think he realizes that he's somewhat of a joke..at least on NG he is.. he's forever goign to be on NG.. he is like one of the TH's now I think..

[joolz]

I tend to agree that most people seem to show little interest in crime cases. I've worked with the public for 50 yrs almost and 1 (ONE) person ever mentioned true crime and he said he was working so many hours he didn't have time to follow all but 1 (one) case partially.

It's been my experience that if people do follow true crime they show little interest in letting that fact be known. I think the true crime followers are a small minority of the populace. football, golf, baseball, auto racing, just about anything takes precedence.


I agree. Whenever I mention it to people they seem a little wierded out. Go figure.

[ConchGirl]

Will talk tomorrow. I've been off sick with a cold for two days and have to go back to work though. Have a good evening all.

So I am on topic: I'll read that article again. Not sure the Anthonys were mentioned specifically.:seeya: Good Night my friend.

[?noanswer]

Maybe they just learned how to put the tm there and did it?

By jove, I think you got it!!! JMO

[Lavenia]

Hangers on.. lol bunch of dingleberries I'd say.

The attorneys are needed though, I woudn't put them in the dingle category..And LP looked pretty good, but not in that way, tonight. He was tanned and smiling and I think he realizes that he's somewhat of a joke..at least on NG he is.. he's forever goign to be on NG.. he is like one of the TH's now I think..

You can be an attorney but not be a dingle one, lol. Baez didn't get the memo.

NG had a couple of second string TH's tonight; LP and Psychic Lady, IMO.

[ConchGirl]

Maybe they just learned how to put the tm there and did it?

We have not seen the last of them IMO Let the spin begin.

[?noanswer]

:seeya: Frankie. I don't see a conspiracy either. But don't forget, Lenny has a very special kind of vision - the kind that allows him to keep on spinning in order to stay center stage at all times, directly in front of the camera. :biggrin:

LP days as a guest may be numbered. NG kinda came down on him tonight. Greta was not kind to him the last time he was on her show. JMO

[Motomom]

You can be an attorney but not be a dingle one, lol. Baez didn't get the memo.

NG had a couple of second string TH's tonight; LP and Psychic Lady, IMO.

LOL.. somethings wrong with me cause i laughed until I cried..

I know she has asked Lp in the past about other cases and i'm like WTH..how does he know anything about that? But he looked very healthy and was laughing tonight, he was glowing on my tv.. i bet he's been hired on.. even second string

[bchand]

Maybe they got a GoDaddy (or like) account and THINK that's a trademark. :shrug: I tried cayleemarieanthony.com and it said I was forbidden.

JMO


But they didn't grab http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/
quick enough.

[Mamie]

January we've been agreeing so much lately I almost hate to disagree with you. I doubt the Anthonys have "plenty of money." I think the pictures/videos were sold by Casey to pay for her defense. If the A's got any of it, I'd be surprised. And even then, in their present situation, "plenty" of money sure ain't "plenty" of money. But when you hear about them buying a new Rolls Royce and moving to the villa on the French Riveria and living in luxury for the rest of their life, let me know.

Good night. :drool:

I agree with you, SS, I don't think G & C have any real money either and I don't think they are getting any from Baez and friends. JMO

[steffaroob4]

LP days as a guest may be numbered. NG kinda came down on him tonight. Greta was not kind to him the last time he was on her show. JMO

Is Greta covering the case tonight???

[Motomom]

The ONLY people who had access to these home videos were the Anthonys. I don't know one way or the other who sold the photos. If it was Casey, this is probably how she is paying for her dream team. If it was George and Cindy, this is probably how they are paying their mortgage and their bills. Either way, I agree, it is dispicable behavior. Profiting off of your dead child is sick. Nobody has ever done that.

And hold on to your hats people because if there is money coming in from these pictures, images, photos, movies, and it ends up rolling back into Caylee's estate, don't be surprised if one of the Anthony's in order to block the other, appeals to the Court for a GAL for the Estate of Caylee Anthony. A guardian ad litem for a dead person! Unprecidented in a case that is full of first time ever maneuvers.


Caylee's estate? What estate, she wasn't even 3 yet, how would she have an estate? And she didn't sell them anyway, I would think that the picture belongs to who took it no?

[Motomom]

But they didn't grab http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/
quick enough.

I don't like that picture of Lee on there. He looks so much older.. it's weird, sometimes he looks young and not bad looking..then there are pictures like that.. weird, you tend to be photogenic or not (I'm in the NOT).. I love the X's on the others, that made me giggle a bit.

[Motomom]

As soon as I start profiting from this message board nic... I will gladly send Jimmy Buffet any & all proceeds. Maybe he'll send me some complimentary LANDSHARK™ Lager (http://www.landsharklager.com/AgeGate.aspx?ReturnUrl=%2fdefault.aspx). :)

Does anyone know if Thursday's hearing will be televised?

will she be there? is that when she's getting disposed (think that's the right word)

[bchand]

I agree with you, SS, I don't think G & C have any real money either and I don't think they are getting any from Baez and friends. JMO

I can't imagine anything more repugnant that an accused child killer being permitted to sell pictures of her victim to pay for her own defense. That's even worse than the Anthony's profitting off of this IMO.

[Lavenia]

Understood- and I hear you but my complete perception of this monster (better??) just completely changed in the flash of that video. Water - no water, for me that is not even a question anymore - the deputy and MR not going further back in , not even a second thought as to why?? now. It explains to me why Casey was such a smart aleck about no one being able to find Caylee or her clothes- Oh Yes she had an anxiety attack , when she remembered what it looks like here in the winter. Oh my, oh my, oh my.... my husband and I both said it at the same time, no way anyone was getting very far back into that area. Sorry - major lightbulb flipped on..IMOO

Monster. Much better. :thumbsup: (I knew what you meant, I'm just being a smart alec with the dingbat thingy.)

[joolz]

Understood- and I hear you but my complete perception of this monster (better??) just completely changed in the flash of that video. Water - no water, for me that is not even a question anymore - the deputy and MR not going further back in , not even a second thought as to why?? now. It explains to me why Casey was such a smart aleck about no one being able to find Caylee or her clothes- Oh Yes she had an anxiety attack , when she remembered what it looks like here in the winter. Oh my, oh my, oh my.... my husband and I both said it at the same time, no way anyone was getting very far back into that area. Sorry - major lightbulb flipped on..IMOO


Not much long-term reasoning in that evil little pea brain of hers. I think she really believed she was soooooooooooo clever that Caylee's remains would never be found. And you are right - right up until she remembered that the density of the foliage changes with the seasons. Monster is definitely a good word for her.

[Neffy]

But they didn't grab http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/
quick enough.

I was trying to figure out who these peeps are that do.

Mouse over Casey's pick LOL

[Lavenia]

Caylee's estate? What estate, she wasn't even 3 yet, how would she have an estate? And she didn't sell them anyway, I would think that the picture belongs to who took it no?

Her estate includes what monies might come in under her name (I think) even after death.

[bchand]

I was trying to figure out who these peeps are that do.

Mouse over Casey's pick LOL

:biggrin:
lol her current home Neffy?

[playnice]

I am really having a difficult time understanding why this child's possible father has not already come forward on his own. Either for legitimate reasons or for the money to be made in this case. Maybe he has and we do not know it yet, or maybe he has no clue what he is potentially losing. I would think everyone who had sex with her that year would be coming forward actually.

Public humiliation by the whole world knowing you slept with a skank?
You know you werent the only briar and maybe not the one that stuck the deepest?
Get drug through hell like the meter reader?

[?noanswer]

Is Greta covering the case tonight???

Not yet, John Travalto and now Natalie Holloway. JMO

[CaféAuLait's]

Oh I'm not ready to go so far as MPD....or even ANY mental defense at all, don't misunderstand. I just think something is drastically wrong with her, and her personality make-up weirdness (can't think of any other way to put it) is far MORE than just your everyday usual sociopath. Not as far as a defense though. And where you say, "IMO that people look for a reason behind this terrible murder" I say, IMO, people want to pigeonhole the reason TOO neatly by just saying, oh she never changed, she always lied, she was always evil. She's just a purely evil sociopath and that's it, that's all. I just think there's more. Hard to explain what I mean. I just think we have not seen anything quite like her. Even the comparisons to Scott Peterson fall flat. Sure he had "another life" but that was basically because he was a cheating husband, and the stuff he told Amber. Casey lied about EVERYTHING, to EVERYONE. Unnecessary stuff. Elaborate lies that had no purpose. Someone said she had a completely false life. Beyond that, even. IMO. She absolutely floors me!


ITA what I do not understand is those who are willing to seemingly make excuses for this girl in trying to say she is mentally defective. Look at the men who lead double lives and have 2 wives---- they lie and lie and lie --they lead double lives. The last thing anyone wants to do is to say “Oh he changed"—No, he did not-- he was a liar all along-- no one wants to admit being fooled by him or her... they never changed they are the same low life scum who want it all--- but do not want to pay the price or follow RULES society has set in place.

[steffaroob4]

Uh. What is the Body Hunter Tv Series has Ne1 seen this show? I did not know that Gale had a show. Does some one know about this show and are they going to profit off of this video if it airs too? I have to think about this.

I believe her first show was taped on July on '08, so I guess it is in production.

[gaelicpeas]

I have been reading off and on all day.. more so since I got home from work. I am not sure why folks are so up in arms about the Anthonys profitting off of this case. As far as I am concerned, this has been known from about, hmm, day 20.

Kidfinders is a scam. NeverLoseHope is a scam (which is why I think NeJames called it quits - he didn't want that link made public). Why, oh why, do people contribute to these fraudulent organizations???

IMO, Caylee's legacy will be in exposing these organizations. Live on, little girl... you have done well.

[ConchGirl]

I would like everyone here to thank the good Lord that Caylee has been found. I am grateful that we will not have to watch George & Cindy do the "she is alive" and "she was just sighted in Ft. Lauderdale" anymore. I only pray that they will all stop profiting off of an innocent child. The Anthony's are not alone in the nightmare. There are 6066 people incarcerated for murder in the USA as of 2002.

http://manyeyes.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/datasets/people-incarcerated-us-2002-by-felon/versions/1

I assume the parents of the murderers are not living off of the deceased. IMO

[bchand]

I was trying to figure out who these peeps are that do.

Mouse over Casey's pick LOL


The Anthony family could have grabbed the .com one. (Or anyone really.)

I think the one I linked has a pretty good bunch of info on it.

[Motomom]

I was trying to figure out who these peeps are that do.

Mouse over Casey's pick LOL

nothing happened when I did.. but i never saw this cupid's thing before..
http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/pdfs/casey_anthony_Cupid.pdf?id_member=2050024

[steffaroob4]

Not yet, John Travalto and now Natalie Holloway. JMO

Thanks, let me know if she does, i will dash to watch it.

I wonder if Baez will get an emergency hearing, can the solve two motions like that without a hearing?

[GumShoeJoe]

From the Anthony's own website.

Help Find Caylee (http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/).

It shows 'Caylee Marie Anthony™' right there on the site.

No rumor whatsoever.


Anyone can just type it, though, doesn't mean it is registered.

[Kara]

But they didn't grab http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/
quick enough.
I guess in this dot/com/us/net/whatever age...it might be logical to trademark a name instead of a web addy....

[?noanswer]

nothing happened when I did.. but i never saw this cupid's thing before..
http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/pdfs/casey_anthony_Cupid.pdf?id_member=2050024

You have to click on the picture. JMO

[Findtheperp]

I have hope that all Orange County FL Judges continue to follow all due process procedures (the law) in all cases related to Casey Anthony. I hope Judge Garcia will in the Zenida suit....Its time the "Dream Team" realizes that although Casey is in daily news she is no celebrity, she is no OJ or Paris or Lindsay Lohan or Phil Spector..this isn't California. She deserves no special treatment or favors...Treat her the same as other defendants ( The ones that aren't in the news daily because of the heinous crime they are accused of) would be treated.. follow the course of written law.. No exceptions.. Its time all the A's be accountable and be punished, if found guilty for any laws broken and damages or libel to all who's reputations were harmed.
JMO

[?noanswer]

super that is just super. maybe because in some states it is a crime? Does KatPrint know FL law and murderers and their family members being allowed to profit off of a crime? I hope the state actually puts a stop to anyone trying to profit from this babygirl. I guess I will go google state law for FL as I do not know if they have the "manson" law in FL.

Katprint addressed this earlier this PM. JMO

[Motomom]

Her estate includes what monies might come in under her name (I think) even after death.

But money isn't going to come in to her or for her IMO

[Pruddennce]

I remember early on cindy A. said that she a a great disability plan in work. It is possible that she is on LTD . She said she did not worry about income because of the plan. IMO George does work, and never stopped working, he is in Security is he not? I remember him sayin he changed companys. I would bet that People magazine alone paid them enough that would equal 10year paycheck in my book. I also think that the lawyers are not charging. for the same reason Lenny P. hitched a ride on the wagon. How much did Dateline pay them for the interview/photo images,/videos. all never seen before ( at least by me). gogo


she may remain on LTD for quite awhile, supplementing with her remaining sick and vacation time, but the reduced benefit will end at some point, if it hasnt already, money-wise. IMO, she is simply in LTD status, which is holding her job, and not receiving money anymore from that benefit.

she would have had to provide a doctor certified letter as to her disability, which of course could only be mental instability justifying why she is unable to work.

but she sure is able to do the media circuit, complete with makeup and a new hairdo.

I doubt she has a job anymore and I doubt they are considering her disabled, mentally, with her new hairdo and makeup and media blitz events.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[?noanswer]

Thanks, let me know if she does, i will dash to watch it.

I wonder if Baez will get an emergency hearing, can the solve two motions like that without a hearing?


GVS just said up next. Caylee Marie Anthony. JMO

[bchand]

nothing happened when I did.. but i never saw this cupid's thing before..
http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/pdfs/casey_anthony_Cupid.pdf?id_member=2050024


Oh then you missed this Motomom :

The most important thing in my life is...
my daughter, my family, and my friends. i cherish the people i share my life with, and strive to show them that each and every day.

[gaelicpeas]

super that is just super. maybe because in some states it is a crime? Does KatPrint know FL law and murderers and their family members being allowed to profit off of a crime? I hope the state actually puts a stop to anyone trying to profit from this babygirl. I guess I will go google state law for FL as I do not know if they have the "manson" law in FL.
Not sure what you are saying, but I really appreciate Katprint's posts. It is nice to have an impartial lawyer's point of view on these boards. IMO.

[Motomom]

The Anthony family could have grabbed the .com one. (Or anyone really.)

I think the one I linked has a pretty good bunch of info on it.

It is a very good site, with tons of info..

[Pruddennce]

I guess in this dot/com/us/net/whatever age...it might be logical to trademark a name instead of a web addy....


there is something called:

Trademark Cyberpiracy Prevention:
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/dcom/olia/tmcybpiracy/fedregnotice.pdf

I guess that was their goal.

IMO, they overdo the legal aspects to give the impression they are ahead of the rest of the world, legally speaking.

Ive yet to see that with regard to this family. just the impression I get as to how they perceive themselves.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Lavenia]

But money isn't going to come in to her or for her IMO

I have no idea, but would the donations made in her name be under her estate or sales of her images or any TM'd name stuff? I don't know how that works.

[Motomom]

Oh the cupid profile yes. This one I am sure had other profiles and we just do not know about them yet? She had a stumbleupon and also the yearbook too. Yearbook was pretty old.

I bet there is more..

[?noanswer]

It is a very good site, with tons of info..

It seems to have more current info on it than the KidFinders site. JMO

[bchand]

Crazy, ain't it?

There is also a photo of one of Caylee's alleged fathers.

Jesus Ortiz (http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/people_of_interest/jesus_ortiz120b.jpg)



This is a good page from it too. I'd not seen this before.

http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/forensic_scientific_information.html

[Cury-us Coyote]

Thanks, let me know if she does, i will dash to watch it.

I wonder if Baez will get an emergency hearing, can the solve two motions like that without a hearing?

A spokesman for Baez called it a delaying tactic that "makes no sense."
http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html

[bchand]

I wonder what day she logged that lovely piece of prose? OH MY? :eek:
She was online and talking to some who were pounding her with questions so I wonder if she wrote that before or after her new found fame?



I recall seeing a date for that a while ago. I "think" it was about May 22nd.

[steffaroob4]

lenny did say Sept 3rd...

That is so strange, hmmmm. I wonder what he was going to say.

[Motomom]

Oh then you missed this Motomom :

The most important thing in my life is...
my daughter, my family, and my friends. i cherish the people i share my life with, and strive to show them that each and every day.

Yeah.. then I got to wondering when the last time that site could have been accessed. I felt a little sad for Casey.. NO not really, but I did.. if she truely felt that way at one point kwim? It's all gone, at her own hands.. first time I ever felt any bit of anything at all for her.. but it passed.. it's all good now

[Lavenia]

This is a good page from it too. I'd not seen this before.

http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/forensic_scientific_information.html

That site links to the site I like on sociopaths:

http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

[?noanswer]

A spokesman for Baez called it a delaying tactic that "makes no sense."
http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html


JB and his team are the ones delaying. They could do an autopsy without the ME's information. In fact, if it was me, I would want to do my own and then compare it with the ME's to see if there was anything different. I would then revisit what was different and try to figure out why. I don't think they will do one. JMO

[?noanswer]

B4 I click on that it's a macafee link, what do they have to do with sociopaths please? :D

I thought the same thing. But when you look it is not the same as the software. JMO

[Lavenia]

B4 I click on that it's a macafee link, what do they have to do with sociopaths please? :D

THEY RULE THE WORLD!!!

J/K, :laugh: I don't know why the link is McAfee, but it does have an excellent post about sociopaths. A lot of us read it before and really liked it.

[bchand]

B4 I click on that it's a macafee link, what do they have to do with sociopaths please? :D

Read it and you'll see a description of Casey to a T.

[Motomom]

I have no idea, but would the donations made in her name be under her estate or sales of her images or any TM'd name stuff? I don't know how that works.

Lavenia, I really don't know in all honesty. If monies are given to the Anthony's.. they aren't being given TO Caylee. The checks would have been written out to the Anthonys. The pictures belonged to them, or Casey. Anything tmed was done after death. I don't believe she has an estate at all.. all that was left was her mama doll that her mother didn't see fit to at least throw in the garbage bag when she threw Caylee in it. Her dressup stuff, if there was life insurance, I'd imagine it was minimal, maybe through Gerber, though I would never get life insurance on my children, many people do..or sometimes it comes with their own.

[Pruddennce]

Oh the cupid profile yes. This one I am sure had other profiles and we just do not know about them yet? She had a stumbleupon and also the yearbook too. Yearbook was pretty old.

her last vacation was her uncle's wedding??????

IIRC, that is where Rick Plesea got married, Myrtle Beach, SC and Casey wasnt expected per Rick's statement to LE....she showed up with George and Cindy, PREGNANT, and Cindy denied she was pregnant.

so Casey writes that was her LAST VACATION spot on June 4, 2005? (Rick's wedding day). unbelievable.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Lavenia]

Lavenia, I really don't know in all honesty. If monies are given to the Anthony's.. they aren't being given TO Caylee. The checks would have been written out to the Anthonys. The pictures belonged to them, or Casey. Anything tmed was done after death. I don't believe she has an estate at all.. all that was left was her mama doll that her mother didn't see fit to at least throw in the garbage bag when she threw Caylee in it. Her dressup stuff, if there was life insurance, I'd imagine it was minimal, maybe through Gerber, though I would never get life insurance on my children, many people do..or sometimes it comes with their own.

I'm not sure either. Next time we see Katprint around we need to wrestle her down and see if she can help us. :wink:

[bchand]

I thought the same thing. But when you look it is not the same as the software. JMO

No, the antivirus is McAfee right?


lol another link from that site:

Email Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum to voice your opinion regarding George and Cindy Anthony seeking immunity or click here for contact details

[bchand]

her last vacation was her uncle's wedding??????

IIRC, that is where Rick Plesea got married, Myrtle Beach, SC and Casey wasnt expected per Rick's statement to LE....she showed up with George and Cindy, PREGNANT, and Cindy denied she was pregnant.

so Casey writes that was her LAST VACATION spot on June 4, 2005? (Rick's wedding day). unbelievable.

IMO

best regards,
Pru


And the first time she's ever been on a plane?

[CaféAuLait's]

Sorry I seemed to have read the link wrong WRONG INFO

[?noanswer]

Sorry I have not read this entire thread so I am unsure if this has been mentioned has anyone noted the "contact us" information for the site you are discussing?

To email us or send feedback. - info@cayleemarieanthony.net



Telephone (+1) 305 432 2490



Google the phone number it is the Florida AG, I did not know that the state did such web pages...or so it seems.


Contact Details

Ninth Judicial Circuit State Attorney's Office
Post Office Box 1673
Orlando, Florida 32802
Phone: (407) 836-2400

http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/contact_florida_attorney_general_bill_mccollum.htm l


I thought the site looked professional, unlike JB's. Sure glad I didn't post any comments!!!! JMO

[Cury-us Coyote]

According to Brittany Schieber, Casey’s Pontiac in driveway with trunk open shortly after LE arrived. See page 2413 Part 3 (13 of 50) here
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202401-2450%20f.pdf

Didn't LA state he, CA, and the Pontiac were in the garage when LE separated them?

ETA - Discussion of Caylee's funeral after commercial on Greta OTR.

[CaféAuLait's]

Wow, great catch. I hadn't got that far yet. So the AG is responsible for this page? That's surprising. No wonder it has so much info.


eta: When I google the # I just get a link back to the site.


Sorry I think I may have read it wrong....

Sorry here is the link again:



http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/contact_florida_attorney_general_bill_mccollum.htm l

I clicked one too many times and read it wrong. Seems the site directs you to the AG's office. I was wrong.

[Pruddennce]

And she also writes that she had 'some college.'

I wonder if Casey has ever told the truth & nothing but the truth.

its par.

best regards,
Pru

[bchand]

Sorry I think I may have read it wrong....

Sorry here is the link again:



http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/contact_florida_attorney_general_bill_mccollum.htm l

I clicked one too many times and read it wrong. Seems the site directs you to the AG's office. I was wrong.

That's ok. All it means to me is they're aligned with the good guys. lol

[ConchGirl]

Sorry I have not read this entire thread so I am unsure if this has been mentioned has anyone noted the "contact us" information for the site you are discussing?

To email us or send feedback. - info@cayleemarieanthony.net



Telephone (+1) 305 432 2490

I would recommend that you send a tip to caseyinfoline@yahoo.com


Google the phone number it is the Florida AG, I did not know that the state did such web pages...or so it seems.


Contact Details

Ninth Judicial Circuit State Attorney's Office
Post Office Box 1673
Orlando, Florida 32802
Phone: (407) 836-2400

http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/contact_florida_attorney_general_bill_mccollum.htm l

I would recommend that you send a tip to caseyinfoline@yahoo.com

"The Baez Law Firm continues to be very interested in receiving any information, photographs and/or video from the time Caylee Anthony went missing to when her remains were discovered, including any witnesses to activities at the location where the bag was found," read a statement released to the media by Todd Black, spokesman for Jose Baez."
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8195210&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

I sent an email that said "your biggest resource is in Orange County Jail, why don't you ask her. :angry:

[bchand]

CaféAuLait issued a retraction.
Just an error.

[Motomom]

I'm not sure either. Next time we see Katprint around we need to wrestle her down and see if she can help us. :wink:

Good idea.. remind me too LOL.. cause I'll forget..

[Calla]

Do prisoners in the jail usually call their cells "dorms"?
I noticed Casey said that on one of the videos....she is now in the school of hard knocks maybe?

[bchand]

I deleted my post accordingly. :)

Me too :)
....

[?noanswer]

Sorry I think I may have read it wrong....

Sorry here is the link again:



http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/contact_florida_attorney_general_bill_mccollum.htm l

I clicked one too many times and read it wrong. Seems the site directs you to the AG's office. I was wrong.

It is still a well done site with much info. Thanks for the link. JMO

[bchand]

Do prisoners in the jail usually call their cells "dorms"?
I noticed Casey said that on one of the videos....she is now in the school of hard knocks maybe?

Maybe she pretends she just there to get those 2 credits she's missing from high school.

[ConchGirl]

Me too :)
....
Should I delete something?

[Pruddennce]

OH MY (!!!!!!!!!) Well, jaw dropping isnt it? In her IMs to all her buddies she talked about vacation time a lot and bosses and scheduling and getting her "vacation time" so she was living this huge fantasy life in her head, or just for show for others. I see her as so calculating.

respectfully snipped...

whats a kipper???? :)

hey KTee, I dont know, I dont watch those shows. IMO, she has been like this 'since day one'. Doctors...I would enjoy being the fly on the wall....esp after hearing her tell Cindy, no, I am not going to 'talk' to them, I dont know them, lol....right after saying she was sitting there talking to them....

snowing them of course. hopefully that tape will be played for the jurors......HI MOM! GIGGLE GIGGLE GIGGLE.

also family services....gave the same statement to them about her job at Universal, etc etc AFTER LE already told her WE KNOW its all a lie. but she continued the lie.

she's a psychopath, IMO.

best regards,
Pru

[CaféAuLait's]

Me too :)
....


Sorry again all!!! Apologies!!

[Lavenia]

Do prisoners in the jail usually call their cells "dorms"?
I noticed Casey said that on one of the videos....she is now in the school of hard knocks maybe?

Most incarcerated inmates are actually placed in dorm settings, but not Casey. Dorm settings are only appropriate for general population, low security risk inmates. That isn't the OC by a long shot. She *wishes* dorms.

[Cury-us Coyote]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live10pm11pm.html

[101Spots]

Do prisoners in the jail usually call their cells "dorms"?
I noticed Casey said that on one of the videos....she is now in the school of hard knocks maybe?

For those prone to exaggeration and aggrandizement, yes they do.

And it's the *University* of Hard Knocks. Higher education, you know.

[Motomom]

I like it I am just giving ya a hard time :D Thats all haha. Serious though I guess I do want to go read about sheer violence vs mental illness. Casey didnt have a record of mental illness and that may hurt her if she tries to go down that road I would think.

Does any one know who is going to "air" Caylees memorial service? Is LP working on that? He did mention it early on at his Little Econ River Fiasco.
Why would any news organization air caylee anthonys funeral? I guess I just dont understand that at all. I cannot think of one child funeral a minor victim of violence that had their funeral aired on cable or national television.

Brooke Bennetts funeral was aired.. there was a live stream of it online.

[bchand]

Should I delete something?

Only if you still have time to delete the one quoting Cafe..

[steffaroob4]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live10pm11pm.html

Well, I missed it, anything interesting???

[Pruddennce]

I like it I am just giving ya a hard time :D Thats all haha. Serious though I guess I do want to go read about sheer violence vs mental illness. Casey didnt have a record of mental illness and that may hurt her if she tries to go down that road I would think.

Does any one know who is going to "air" Caylees memorial service? Is LP working on that? He did mention it early on at his Little Econ River Fiasco.
Why would any news organization air caylee anthonys funeral? I guess I just dont understand that at all. I cannot think of one child funeral a minor victim of violence that had their funeral aired on cable or national television.

its awful. she's a murdered child and the mother is arrested awaiting trial. the anthonys need to publically mourn, its all about THEM. IMO they will continue the media circuit until they land on the stand.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[Motomom]

Maybe she pretends she just there to get those 2 credits she's missing from high school.

Wtheck.. I go to use the rolling smiling and he's not there? why do they move around.. that was a good one bc..

Dorm,cell.. she'll just call it HOME and not soon enough

[ConchGirl]

Most incarcerated inmates are actually placed in dorm settings, but not Casey. Dorm settings are only appropriate for general population, low security risk inmates. That isn't the OC by a long shot. She *wishes* dorms.

Perhaps you could describe kiting for us?

[Cury-us Coyote]

Well, I missed it, anything interesting???

Nothing new except 200 more toys delivered by a florist targeted to a boys and girls home in Ovieda (I think).
jmo

[need2no]

Do prisoners in the jail usually call their cells "dorms"?
I noticed Casey said that on one of the videos....she is now in the school of hard knocks maybe?

LOL, she sure is!

I've noticed on the TV show LockUp, different areas in the prison are assigned as DORM A, DORM B, and so on. When prisoners exhibit good behavior over a period of time they can be moved to another (better) DORM area which has more freedom such as additional exercise time outdoors.

It seems they probably have those in protective custody in one DORM, those who are violent offenders in a certain DORM, those on death row in another DORM, etc.

[cloe23]

Do prisoners in the jail usually call their cells "dorms"?
I noticed Casey said that on one of the videos....she is now in the school of hard knocks maybe?


I have heard them called cells and day room. Everyone gets locked into their cells at lights off. Here anyway. Then in the morning they can come back out to the day room. This is at the county jail.
I sometimes wonder how Casey is doing in total isolation, not a soul to talk to except her defence. That would drive me nuts.

[need2no]

its awful. she's a murdered child and the mother is arrested awaiting trial. the anthonys need to publically mourn, its all about THEM. IMO they will continue the media circuit until they land on the stand.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

And I anticipate a rough landing!

[ConchGirl]

LOL, she sure is!

I've noticed on the TV show LockUp, different areas in the prison are assigned as DORM A, DORM B, and so on. When prisoners exhibit good behavior over a period of time they can be moved to another (better) DORM area which has more freedom such as additional exercise time outdoors.

It seems they probably have those in protective custody in one DORM, those who are violent offenders in a certain DORM, those on death row in another DORM, etc.

I saw one the other day from Arizona and they hate PC (protective custody) inmates. They don't even care why they are in PC. I'm sure Casey has people that don't like her. :thumbup:

[aubrey04]

Maybe she pretends she just there to get those 2 credits she's missing from high school.

:lol: ..... :lol:

Then again, I would imagine life isn't as bad in isolation like Casey is in VS general population in county jail. It seems all she does is sleep, eat, read and listen to her transistor radio all day. It might be boring, but not torture - like having to sleep with one eye open in a jail cell pod full of criminals and go to the bathroom in front of them.. yuck.

[Neffy]

:biggrin:
lol her current home Neffy?

Yep that's it allright!

[Lavenia]

Perhaps you could describe kiting for us?

Kiting actually refers to a contraband letter. Inmates that are segregated from the general population will correspond with each other (and send items from cell to cell) by "fishing" also known as "kiting" where they fashion long strings with a weighted end, attach what they want to send, and they send it down the run or down the tier to the inmate they want it to go to who will also send a string out to catch it. They get *really* good at this, and you can go in an AD Seg unit or a SHU unit and see all the papers swooshing around the floor like mice. Necessity IS the mother of invention.

[aubrey04]

I have heard them called cells and day room. Everyone gets locked into their cells at lights off. Here anyway. Then in the morning they can come back out to the day room. This is at the county jail.
I sometimes wonder how Casey is doing in total isolation, not a soul to talk to except her defence. That would drive me nuts.

I would rather be in isolation than in the same cell as 15 other women though. Having to go to the bathroom in front of them in the cell.. ugh. And worrying about whether one of them was going to beat me up.

Yeah, I would much rather be all by my lonesome.

[ConchGirl]

:lol: ..... :lol:

Then again, I would imagine life isn't as bad in isolation like Casey is in VS general population in county jail. It seems all she does is sleep, eat, read and listen to her transistor radio all day. It might be boring, but not torture - like having to sleep with one eye open in a jail cell pod full of criminals and go to the bathroom in front of them.. yuck.

I personally like to hear the noise, ie. jail chatter when she is on the phone with Lee. It must be maddening. Jail doesn't seem like a place to get a good nights sleep if you know what I mean?

[bchand]

:lol: ..... :lol:

Then again, I would imagine life isn't as bad in isolation like Casey is in VS general population in county jail. It seems all she does is sleep, eat, read and listen to her transistor radio all day. It might be boring, but not torture - like having to sleep with one eye open in a jail cell pod full of criminals and go to the bathroom in front of them.. yuck.

I was trying to find it but I can't right now, but did you ever notice that one of the local FL websites always show pictures of the newly incarcerated in the Orange County jail. Scary. (Casey's roommates.) errr pardon me - classmates.

[Pruddennce]

And I anticipate a rough landing!

I agree with you need.

if the jailhouse visit tapes come in, I dont see how CA will be able to remain in the courtroom watching herself 'play the game' with Casey.

I anticipate a scene, similar to her raising her hand at the last hearing.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[ConchGirl]

she has it easy right now. oddly enough she is still living off of other peoples money as well. every bite of goodies she takes, donations because some felt sorry for her......:drool:

I can't imagine sleeping next to the toilet unless it's New Years Eve or something. IMO

[Calla]

I dont know but reading about adult schizophrenia flat affect and lack of facial expression I do believe wholeheartedly that casey has both and thensome~ There is also a family member that is on Georges side that they referred to in the FBI interview with cindy when she was asked about any mental health problems georges sister came up does any one remember that?
Cindy's response to being asked about mental illness in the family elicited a very interesting response I thought. She seemed pretty uncomfortable when this subject was broached. I just dont see casey anthony admitting to mental illness willingly like Mary Winkler so readily did. She is no girl interrupted.


WOW
I will look at her closely again now because of your post.
Back to the Jail Movies

[Lavenia]

LOL, she sure is!

I've noticed on the TV show LockUp, different areas in the prison are assigned as DORM A, DORM B, and so on. When prisoners exhibit good behavior over a period of time they can be moved to another (better) DORM area which has more freedom such as additional exercise time outdoors.

It seems they probably have those in protective custody in one DORM, those who are violent offenders in a certain DORM, those on death row in another DORM, etc.

Yeah, that might be how they're referring to it come to think of it. We always called dorms the great big barracks type units with partitions between bunks as dorms. The typical prison units with individual cells are considered units or pods. Inmates DO refer to their cells as "home". When you talk to an inmate, you refer to their cell just as we do home. It is WEIRD to do at first. Then there is "the free world" or "the world" when you discuss anything out of the prison.

[cloe23]

I would rather be in isolation than in the same cell as 15 other women though. Having to go to the bathroom in front of them in the cell.. ugh. And worrying about whether one of them was going to beat me up.

Yeah, I would much rather be all by my lonesome.

I hear ya! Our jail here has only 6 cells with bed, sink and toilet. Allows them to go potty alone.
The day room is equipped with large pick nick tables, shower and telephone. There is usually a card come gong on, the gals do each others hair and eyebrow's. They are clever, taking a piece of string and plucking their eyebrows. Using ink pens and pencils to put on eye liner.

aub I had the worst day today, broke my flipping wrist, DH had to come home from work and take me to ER. :sad:

[CaféAuLait's]

I dont know but reading about adult schizophrenia flat affect and lack of facial expression I do believe wholeheartedly that casey has both and thensome~ There is also a family member that is on Georges side that they referred to in the FBI interview with cindy when she was asked about any mental health problems georges sister came up does any one remember that?
Cindy's response to being asked about mental illness in the family elicited a very interesting response I thought. She seemed pretty uncomfortable when this subject was broached. I just dont see casey anthony admitting to mental illness willingly like Mary Winkler so readily did. She is no girl interrupted.



Will that really matter? Her mother and father can say Casey was treated for XYZ at the age of 15 *IF* there was a problem. I can see Cindy now-- I think she would rather print off copies of Casey's mental records and distribute them (if there are any) than have the public believe that her daughter is a cold blooded killer.

[Calla]

ooops-from the jail movie- Casey says she is the strongest she has ever been ..I think she meant the most 'detached' she has ever been

[need2no]

:lol: ..... :lol:

Then again, I would imagine life isn't as bad in isolation like Casey is in VS general population in county jail. It seems all she does is sleep, eat, read and listen to her transistor radio all day. It might be boring, but not torture - like having to sleep with one eye open in a jail cell pod full of criminals and go to the bathroom in front of them.. yuck.


She still has no privacy. Every so often I have to post this (old) article because it puts a :biggrin: on my face.


~snipped~
Casey can see out through a glass wall, but everyone else can see in.
"There is no privacy in jail," jail spokesman Allen Moore told Eyewitness News.
Casey's alone about 20 hours a day in her cell. She eats alone there. Monday it was cornflakes for breakfast, turkey hotdogs and beans for lunch, Salisbury steak and gravy and potatoes for dinner. She does get dessert three times a day if she wants.
Casey can have photographs on her shelf if she wants, but Eyewitness News was told there are no photographs, not even of Caylee.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17764362/detail.html

[Lavenia]

I personally like to hear the noise, ie. jail chatter when she is on the phone with Lee. It must be maddening. Jail doesn't seem like a place to get a good nights sleep if you know what I mean?

That is what would make me the craziest! The noise is crazy! 24/7. NEVER lets up. There is nothing but metal and concrete for it to bounce off of.

[aubrey04]

I personally like to hear the noise, ie. jail chatter when she is on the phone with Lee. It must be maddening. Jail doesn't seem like a place to get a good nights sleep if you know what I mean?

You're right. It is SO loud during the jailhouse convos. I guess she can't escape that even in her private cell. Anyone remember if they saw earplugs on the commissary list?

I was trying to find it but I can't right now, but did you ever notice that one of the local FL websites always show pictures of the newly incarcerated in the Orange County jail. Scary. (Casey's roommates.) errr pardon me - classmates.

LOL, I have seen a few mugshots on one of the Orlando websites, which posts them a lot (imo, what a good way to cut crime..how embarrassing would that be?).. Yeah, most don't look like Mary Poppins..that's for sure. There are some pretty seedy people checking into the Orange County Jail.

[Pruddennce]

Will that really matter? Her mother and father can say Casey was treated for XYZ at the age of 15 *IF* there was a problem. I can see Cindy now-- I think she would rather print off copies of Casey's mental records and distribute them (if there are any) than have the public believe that her daughter is a cold blooded killer.

I respectfully disagree. CA wants the best of both worlds.

she was asked point blank if Casey had 'problems'

this video interview with Greta, if you can tolerate her, is eye opening, she was openly hostile.

she says: she has never been a MENTALLY UNSTABLE PERSON....she has never been DIAGNOSED with anything. around 6:50 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0vFUavy9iU

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[cloe23]

She still has no privacy. Every so often I have to post this (old) article because it puts a :biggrin: on my face.


~snipped~
Casey can see out through a glass wall, but everyone else can see in.
"There is no privacy in jail," jail spokesman Allen Moore told Eyewitness News.
Casey's alone about 20 hours a day in her cell. She eats alone there. Monday it was cornflakes for breakfast, turkey hotdogs and beans for lunch, Salisbury steak and gravy and potatoes for dinner. She does get dessert three times a day if she wants.
Casey can have photographs on her shelf if she wants, but Eyewitness News was told there are no photographs, not even of Caylee.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17764362/detail.html



TY that is a pretty good link.

[ConchGirl]

That is what would make me the craziest! The noise is crazy! 24/7. NEVER lets up. There is nothing but metal and concrete for it to bounce off of. And screaming inmates. Casey mentioned that in one of her jailhouse videos. I get plenty of that in here (paraphrasing) meaning people are calling her a baby killer IMO

[need2no]

Yeah, that might be how they're referring to it come to think of it. We always called dorms the great big barracks type units with partitions between bunks as dorms. The typical prison units with individual cells are considered units or pods. Inmates DO refer to their cells as "home". When you talk to an inmate, you refer to their cell just as we do home. It is WEIRD to do at first. Then there is "the free world" or "the world" when you discuss anything out of the prison.

Something tells me since Caylee's remains were discovered casey would rather not be in "the free world" anywhere near Cindy. :biggrin:

BTW-are prisoners allowed to have any type of mirror in their cell? I noticed on one segment of LOCKUP the prisoner had a hand held mirror which surprised me. Just curious... since I have a feeling casey enjoyed looking at herself.

[aubrey04]

She still has no privacy. Every so often I have to post this (old) article because it puts a :biggrin: on my face.


~snipped~
Casey can see out through a glass wall, but everyone else can see in.
"There is no privacy in jail," jail spokesman Allen Moore told Eyewitness News.
Casey's alone about 20 hours a day in her cell. She eats alone there. Monday it was cornflakes for breakfast, turkey hotdogs and beans for lunch, Salisbury steak and gravy and potatoes for dinner. She does get dessert three times a day if she wants.
Casey can have photographs on her shelf if she wants, but Eyewitness News was told there are no photographs, not even of Caylee.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17764362/detail.html

but at least she isn't locked in the same cell as other people. You know what I mean? I wouldn't feel safe in jail at all, especially in general population. Even if Casey was just in jail for theft or something and in general population... - I think she would get picked on due to her size, her looks and her background. She would be a prime target for the hardcore thug criminals and bullies.

I am not saying county jail, while in isolation, would be a piece of cake.. It would be TERRIBLE, but she's not exposed to the "full experience" of jail, imo.

[bchand]

She still has no privacy. Every so often I have to post this (old) article because it puts a :biggrin: on my face.


~snipped~
Casey can see out through a glass wall, but everyone else can see in.
"There is no privacy in jail," jail spokesman Allen Moore told Eyewitness News.
Casey's alone about 20 hours a day in her cell. She eats alone there. Monday it was cornflakes for breakfast, turkey hotdogs and beans for lunch, Salisbury steak and gravy and potatoes for dinner. She does get dessert three times a day if she wants.
Casey can have photographs on her shelf if she wants, but Eyewitness News was told there are no photographs, not even of Caylee.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17764362/detail.html

Ahh thank you need - I'll sleep better tonight :)

[CaféAuLait's]

I respectfully disagree. CA wants the best of both worlds.

she was asked point blank if Casey had 'problems'

this video interview with Greta, if you can tolerate her, is eye opening, she was openly hostile.

she says: she has never been a MENTALLY UNSTABLE PERSON....she has never been DIAGNOSED with anything. around 6:50 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0vFUavy9iU

IMO

best regards,
Pru


Yes, I am aware of that-- I meant for a trial or at trial.. Cindy has said so many things lies etc. So If and again this is a big IF. If Cindy wants to she could tell people that she was mentally unstable--- to save face now that they know Caylee is nothing but dead and not missing or kidnapped.

[CaféAuLait's]

I was watching Law and Order SVU and the mother of murderer who lies about her daughter murdering her other daughter says of why she lies:

“ I am so sorry--- what was I supposed to do? Heather was already dead--- I could not lose two daughters” (paraphrased)

I wonder if this is how Cindy justifies her lies….

[ConchGirl]

but at least she isn't locked in the same cell as other people. You know what I mean? I wouldn't feel safe in jail at all, especially in general population. Even if Casey was just in jail for theft or something and in general population... - I think she would get picked on due to her size, her looks and her background. She would be a prime target for the hardcore thug criminals and bullies.

I am not saying county jail, while in isolation, would be a piece of cake.. It would be TERRIBLE, but she's not exposed to the "full experience" of jail, imo.

I might be nuts, but I have always wanted a tour of a prison. You can't do it unless you know someone there. I think as a taxpayer I should be able to tour a facility near me. IMO

[cloe23]

And screaming inmates. Casey mentioned that in one of her jailhouse videos. I get plenty of that in here (paraphrasing) meaning people are calling her a baby killer IMO


:ohmy: I didn't think about that! I took it as all the drunks getting booked all night long. Doors slamming.

[Lavenia]

Something tells me since Caylee's remains were discovered casey would rather not be in "the free world" anywhere near Cindy. :biggrin:

BTW-are prisoners allowed to have any type of mirror in their cell? I noticed on one segment of LOCKUP the prisoner had a hand held mirror which surprised me. Just curious... since I have a feeling casey enjoyed looking at herself.

Depends on the place. Higher security will only allow stainless steel "mirrors" but I've seen some places with real mirrors. I've only been around the stainless steel.

[CaféAuLait's]

I agree with Pru. I remember Cindy's interview where she said Casey is mentally stable. For one thing with them saying they believe what she's been telling them (or claiming to believe) what reflection would that be on them.

I have a friend with Schizophrenia. Casey shows no such signs to me. not even close. Casey's perfectly sane, just evil. I"m not sure I wouldn't personally consider evil as a type of mental illness but the law sure doesn't nor does the science community.

I am unsure why so many are disagreeing -- with the amount of lies-- I mean out and out lies Cindy Anthony has told to the media-- why she can't or won't lie again or change her story—is beyond me. Why can't she up and lie one more time? Or tell the truth? I was just throwing ideas around that may be used by the family for Casey's defense.

[bchand]

I was watching Law and Order SVU and the mother of murderer who lies about her daughter murdering her other daughter says of why she lies:

“ I am so sorry--- what was I supposed to do? Heather was already dead--- I could not lose two daughters” (paraphrased)

I wonder if this is how Cindy justifies her lies….

Really? That would have made me think of this case immediately too.

I guess we don't know just what Cindy is capable of doing "yet."

She said Casey's never been diagnosed but one of Jose's lines was

NO ONE knows Casey like "I" do. (Insinuating he knows something even her parents don't?)

[Pruddennce]

Yes, I am aware of that-- I meant for a trial or at trial.. Cindy has said so many things lies etc. So If and again this is a big IF. If Cindy wants to she could tell people that she was mentally unstable--- to save face now that they know Caylee is nothing but dead and not missing or kidnapped.

oh, yes, I understand what you are saying. I truly dont believe she was ever taken to a mental health professional. I dont believe there will be any surprises regarding that.

IMO, the bubble a/k/a as the anthony household, was 'attempting' to keep a lid on her behaviour for many years....no consequences...they took their own action: simply not allowing that information to escape the bubble.

it escaped when Casey stole from grandmom. Prior to that, it escaped when Casey stole from Ryan P. she stole checks from Lee as well, but he is part of the insulation. Ryan didnt press charges probably because he felt bad after he heard a violin serenade. Grandmom didnt press charges (family and all).

so then Casey moved out of that circle.....IMO there are alot of individuals out there who were tapped, but not enough to notice and unable to even guess who stole from them. not the rich girl with the nanny!

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[need2no]

but at least she isn't locked in the same cell as other people. You know what I mean? I wouldn't feel safe in jail at all, especially in general population. Even if Casey was just in jail for theft or something and in general population... - I think she would get picked on due to her size, her looks and her background. She would be a prime target for the hardcore thug criminals and bullies.

I am not saying county jail, while in isolation, would be a piece of cake.. It would be TERRIBLE, but she's not exposed to the "full experience" of jail, imo.

Oh I agree aubrey...casey hasn't even been exposed to the other inmates who would love to uh.... punish her for her crime against a child.

And like you, I wouldn't feel safe in either situation.

I just try to make myself feel better by acknowledging she has no privacy, and is stuck in a cell for 20 out of 24 hours.

[Lavenia]

:ohmy: I didn't think about that! I took it as all the drunks getting booked all night long. Doors slamming.

Staff is hardly "sensitive" to any need for quiet, lol, and there are ALWAYS some people that are riled up over something that yell most of the night. Doors are clanging, people come and go, radios (staff) are blaring, count times are announced, it's bad.

[aubrey04]

I respectfully disagree. CA wants the best of both worlds.

she was asked point blank if Casey had 'problems'

this video interview with Greta, if you can tolerate her, is eye opening, she was openly hostile.

she says: she has never been a MENTALLY UNSTABLE PERSON....she has never been DIAGNOSED with anything. around 6:50 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0vFUavy9iU

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Wow. I just re-watched that. Cindy was TERRIBLE in that interview. She was very combative and defensive towards Greta. I like how she seems to blame everyone else, especially the media, for the fact that information about Caylee's disappearance isn't being reported.

It was because her daughter never told ANYONE her granddaughter was missing for 31 days, then she spewed some lies to LE, then lawyered up. I am SO glad that the Anthony's have finally zipped their lips - listening to their garbage is just too much.

[cloe23]

Something tells me since Caylee's remains were discovered casey would rather not be in "the free world" anywhere near Cindy. :biggrin:

BTW-are prisoners allowed to have any type of mirror in their cell? I noticed on one segment of LOCKUP the prisoner had a hand held mirror which surprised me. Just curious... since I have a feeling casey enjoyed looking at herself.

Our county lockup has a stainless steal mirror at the sick.
But I live in a small town we are the county seat. Our jail is new.
They gave ppl tours before they opened to the offenders.
I have a friend that works in the kitchen and my DH's twin used to be a DO.All towns are so different, just 30miles away from me is a huge jail and I have hear it is bad, smelly, bad food.

[Neffy]

I am unsure why so many are disagreeing -- with the amount of lies-- I mean out and out lies Cindy Anthony has told to the media-- why she can't or won't lie again or change her story—is beyond me. Why can't she up and lie one more time? Or tell the truth? I was just throwing ideas around that may be used by the family for Casey's defense.

In all seriousness could you believe anything she said unless you got someone else to substantiate it?

And if you need for her to substantiate it why bother.

[catdoc]

Just popping in to say Hello and try to get caught up. Been having MAJOR internet access problems all thru holidays until even now. Actually I expect to lose this site and access any minute. I am ready to take a hammer to the Comcast answering computer. How many times can you go thru the whole reset/unplug scenario before you lose it and start cursing an answering service? Anyway, has a date and time been set for the memorial? Have the Anthony's made an appearance or any statements? No news on the telly. Also does anyone know if there have been any more donations to Casey's commisary account (those just flabbergast me).!!??

[need2no]

Depends on the place. Higher security will only allow stainless steel "mirrors" but I've seen some places with real mirrors. I've only been around the stainless steel.


Ok, thanks! From the looks of casey's hair in the jailhouse interview with George and Cindy, I would say casey did not have access to a mirror at that time.

[Lavenia]

I might be nuts, but I have always wanted a tour of a prison. You can't do it unless you know someone there. I think as a taxpayer I should be able to tour a facility near me. IMO

Back when I worked, you could request a tour. You might check into it.

[Lavenia]

Ok, thanks! From the looks of casey's hair in the jailhouse interview with George and Cindy, I would say casey did not have access to a mirror at that time.

:laugh::laugh:

[CaféAuLait's]

Really? That would have made me think of this case immediately too.

I guess we don't know just what Cindy is capable of doing "yet."

She said Casey's never been diagnosed but one of Jose's lines was

NO ONE knows Casey like "I" do. (Insinuating he knows something even her parents don't?)


It was the one that was on this evening---- the girl obviously knew the truth of her sisters demise and when you look at the mothers response when she was found alive you knew something was wrong-- Not the right response that any mother --and yes i immediatly though of CA.

The name of the episode is "Stranger".

[bchand]

Just popping in to say Hello and try to get caught up. Been having MAJOR internet access problems all thru holidays until even now. Actually I expect to lose this site and access any minute. I am ready to take a hammer to the Comcast answering computer. How many times can you go thru the whole reset/unplug scenario before you lose it and start cursing an answering service? Anyway, has a date and time been set for the memorial? Have the Anthony's made an appearance or any statements? No news on the telly. Also does anyone know if there have been any more donations to Casey's commisary account (those just flabbergast me).!!??

Sorry about your internet problems.

No memorial service set. Still no second "autopsy"
No Statements from the Anthony's except George would like to go see Casey but he can't.
Not sure about her commissary acct.

[ConchGirl]

Oh I agree aubrey...casey hasn't even been exposed to the other inmates who would love to uh.... punish her for her crime against a child.

And like you, I wouldn't feel safe in either situation.

I just try to make myself feel better by acknowledging she has no privacy, and is stuck in a cell for 20 out of 24 hours.

When she gets to the big house she will have Big Bertha putting straightener in her hair. IMO (Her hair looks pretty straight to me anyway and I've never understood those comments about straighteners) IMO

[Oregongal]

Hi all,
I've just popped in, I sorta scrolled thru the last couple of pages, which I see we are on the verge of a new thread. I'm usually here and reading while NG is on and missed that with you all tonight. I'm on Alka Selzer Plus for the cold I've been fighting for the last couple of days....lots of sleeping and missing you all on the board. With that said, I did watch NG, woke up just in time....and I am also outraged by the idea that the photos of Caylee's remains and ex rays could possibly be sold and released to the public. I'm also outraged by that little girls remains still sitting in a box waiting for this so called 2nd autopsy by the defense to be done. As Nancy said, WTH is holding it up.
I feel a rush of sickness when I put these two things together.
I thought that maybe the Ant's are working with Baez and the pic and tapes that were sold were not only to line their pockets, but to also be put to Casey's defense.
I thought that maybe the 2nd autopsy has been put off until they got those CD's of Caylee's remains, ex rays and everything else the SA is trying to keep from going public, so they would be able to sell those images.
I see no other reason that this 2nd autopsy has been delayed so long. As Nancy said, the holidays are over. The psyh doc, sorry can't remember what her name is, says this is a callous abomination to let that little girl remain in a box and not be put to rest.
So, I'm thinking that the defense was waiting for these CD's, not just putting it off because of the holidays. They want those pics to be able to sell. They could have done that 2nd autopsy as soon as the remains were released. Holidays or not. They have for some reason not done so.
And BTW, as many of the experts have said there really is no reason for this 2nd autopsy.
It just seems and feels to me that the defense...and I keep thinking that the Ant's are working with JB in the defense of their lovely, sickening daughter...are trying to work it so there will be money coming not only to JB, but to them also.
Their past behavior of asking for donations, accepting money for the the pics and video rights for national tv to show these, them intionally trying to ask for donations to pay for the funeral...even tho they then backed down from that, according to their attorney...says to me they ALL are trying to get whatever money they can.
Oh, yes, now we have heard G&C went and sat with Caylee's remains. That seems to me it just sort of slipped out. It wasn't a big news item, it was just slipped in there. So what? Isn't it a normal thing for grieving people to want to visit the remains? It's not as if it was a huge thing they did, it should be expected of anyone who has lost someone close to them to do this. Why then are they not also raging that this has gone on too long, that they need to do the final, necessary thing and put this baby to rest?
I'm with Nancy G on this, I'm outraged. I see that the only thing that's holding Caylee in a box and her proper burial, or memorial or whatever is chosen for her is money.
I see Baez and the Ant's behind it all.
Ok, I know this is very long, many will probably just scroll on by my post because of it, but I just had to get this off my chest.
Thanks to all who may have read this long post of mine and I would certainly like to know if there is any of you who feel the same.
Bottom line, I am sickened, disgusted and so sad about this. I want so much for Caylee to receive the proper final rest she deserves, it just kills me that all of this legal crap is holding that back.
For God's sake, she was thrown away like garbage. Was out in those woods exposed to the elements, animals and she deserves more now that she has finally been found.
Vent over.
For Caylee Marie
:rose::rose::rose:

[i_pickle]

Wow. I just re-watched that. Cindy was TERRIBLE in that interview. She was very combative and defensive towards Greta. I like how she seems to blame everyone else, especially the media, for the fact that information about Caylee's disappearance isn't being reported.

It was because her daughter never told ANYONE her granddaughter was missing for 31 days, then she spewed some lies to LE, then lawyered up. I am SO glad that the Anthony's have finally zipped their lips - listening to their garbage is just too much.I agree. This is the first time I saw that interview.

Why was she on there if she didn't want to answer questions? Nobody twisted her arm to go on Greta's show and surely she couldn't be so naive' to think that she wouldn't be asked any questions.

[aubrey04]

Oh I agree aubrey...casey hasn't even been exposed to the other inmates who would love to uh.... punish her for her crime against a child.

And like you, I wouldn't feel safe in either situation.

I just try to make myself feel better by acknowledging she has no privacy, and is stuck in a cell for 20 out of 24 hours.

ITA, As long as she's not "strutting" (as Kathi Belich would say) to and from her case worker meetings while on house arrest ~ that's good enough for me. But it's too bad that she's not getting the full experience. I wonder if she gets sent to prison for life -- will she ever get out of isolation?

[ConchGirl]

Really? That would have made me think of this case immediately too.

I guess we don't know just what Cindy is capable of doing "yet."

She said Casey's never been diagnosed but one of Jose's lines was

NO ONE knows Casey like "I" do. (Insinuating he knows something even her parents don't?)

Jose said early on "you are assuming that she doesn't know where Caylee is"

[need2no]

Our county lockup has a stainless steal mirror at the sick.
But I live in a small town we are the county seat. Our jail is new.
They gave ppl tours before they opened to the offenders.
I have a friend that works in the kitchen and my DH's twin used to be a DO.All towns are so different, just 30miles away from me is a huge jail and I have hear it is bad, smelly, bad food.

Thanks. I assume you mean a stainless steel mirror attached to the wall?

I would imagine it doesn't take long before any new jail or prison starts to smell bad, and I've never heard any good comments about the food.

[cloe23]

Staff is hardly "sensitive" to any need for quiet, lol, and there are ALWAYS some people that are riled up over something that yell most of the night. Doors are clanging, people come and go, radios (staff) are blaring, count times are announced, it's bad.

Once trial comes around. The DO or dupities will paraded Casey in front of all the other inmates she will get an earful then.

[Neffy]

Really? That would have made me think of this case immediately too.

I guess we don't know just what Cindy is capable of doing "yet."

She said Casey's never been diagnosed but one of Jose's lines was

NO ONE knows Casey like "I" do. (Insinuating he knows something even her parents don't?)

Yikes! Jose's statement - do you recall what was that in reference to. Was he being asked a question or giving background (creepy)

[Lavenia]

Hi all,
I've just popped in, I sorta scrolled thru the last couple of pages, which I see we are on the verge of a new thread. I'm usually here and reading while NG is on and missed that with you all tonight. I'm on Alka Selzer Plus for the cold I've been fighting for the last couple of days....lots of sleeping and missing you all on the board. With that said, I did watch NG, woke up just in time....and I am also outraged by the idea that the photos of Caylee's remains and ex rays could possibly be sold and released to the public. I'm also outraged by that little girls remains still sitting in a box waiting for this so called 2nd autopsy by the defense to be done. As Nancy said, WTH is holding it up.
I feel a rush of sickness when I put these two things together.
I thought that maybe the Ant's are working with Baez and the pic and tapes that were sold were not only to line their pockets, but to also be put to Casey's defense.
I thought that maybe the 2nd autopsy has been put off until they got those CD's of Caylee's remains, ex rays and everything else the SA is trying to keep from going public, so they would be able to sell those images.
I see no other reason that this 2nd autopsy has been delayed so long. As Nancy said, the holidays are over. The psyh doc, sorry can't remember what her name is, says this is a callous abomination to let that little girl remain in a box and not be put to rest.
So, I'm thinking that the defense was waiting for these CD's, not just putting it off because of the holidays. They want those pics to be able to sell. They could have done that 2nd autopsy as soon as the remains were released. Holidays or not. They have for some reason not done so.
And BTW, as many of the experts have said there really is no reason for this 2nd autopsy.
It just seems and feels to me that the defense...and I keep thinking that the Ant's are working with JB in the defense of their lovely, sickening daughter...are trying to work it so there will be money coming not only to JB, but to them also.
Their past behavior of asking for donations, accepting money for the the pics and video rights for national tv to show these, them intionally trying to ask for donations to pay for the funeral...even tho they then backed down from that, according to their attorney...says to me they ALL are trying to get whatever money they can.
Oh, yes, now we have heard G&C went and sat with Caylee's remains. That seems to me it just sort of slipped out. It wasn't a big news item, it was just slipped in there. So what? Isn't it a normal thing for grieving people to want to visit the remains? It's not as if it was a huge thing they did, it should be expected of anyone who has lost someone close to them to do this. Why then are they not also raging that this has gone on too long, that they need to do the final, necessary thing and put this baby to rest?
I'm with Nancy G on this, I'm outraged. I see that the only thing that's holding Caylee in a box and her proper burial, or memorial or whatever is chosen for her is money.
I see Baez and the Ant's behind it all.
Ok, I know this is very long, many will probably just scroll on by my post because of it, but I just had to get this off my chest.
Thanks to all who may have read this long post of mine and I would certainly like to know if there is any of you who feel the same.
Bottom line, I am sickened, disgusted and so sad about this. I want so much for Caylee to receive the proper final rest she deserves, it just kills me that all of this legal crap is holding that back.
For God's sake, she was thrown away like garbage. Was out in those woods exposed to the elements, animals and she deserves more now that she has finally been found.
Vent over.
For Caylee Marie
:rose:::

I'm sorry you aren't feeling well OG! :rose: I think we are all sickened that Caylee hasn't been laid to rest yet. I keep waiting for them to "do it right" but I get disappointed a lot.

I hope you feel better quickly!

[need2no]

ITA, As long as she's not "strutting" (as Kathi Belich would say) to and from her case worker meetings while on house arrest ~ that's good enough for me. But it's too bad that she's not getting the full experience. I wonder if she gets sent to prison for life -- will she ever get out of isolation?

I've wondered the same. Surely they can't keep all the child predators/murderers in protective custody forever.

Wasn't Jeffrey Dahmer eventually put in the general population, and that's when he was murdered?

[cloe23]

Thanks. I assume you mean a stainless steel mirror attached to the wall?

I would imagine it doesn't take long before any new jail or prison starts to smell bad, and I've never heard any good comments about the food.

Yea attached to the wall, so the view of yourself is almost like the house of mirrors at a theme park.

Someone starting a new thread?

[bchand]

Yikes! Jose's statement - do you recall what was that in reference to. Was he being asked a question or giving background (creepy)

It was one of his statements way back as he was puffing up his chest and telling us we'll all be surprised when he gives his opening statement.

I'll look for it Neffy.

[AnnInOhio]

I agree with Pru. I remember Cindy's interview where she said Casey is mentally stable. For one thing with them saying they believe what she's been telling them (or claiming to believe) what reflection would that be on them.

I have a friend with Schizophrenia. Casey shows no such signs to me. not even close. Casey's perfectly sane, just evil. I"m not sure I wouldn't personally consider evil as a type of mental illness but the law sure doesn't nor does the science community.

Scott Peck wrote an interesting book putting forth his belief that Evil as a mental illness can be identified and should be included in the DSM-IV. The most chilling case study I remember was about a severely depressed boy whose brother had committed suicide by shooting himself with a rifle. The doctor suspected evil in the parents when, in trying to begin rapport with the depressed boy he asked him what he got for Christmas. The boy reported to the doctor that his parents had given him the rifle his brother shot himself with as a Christmas present. The parents couldn't see why that maybe wasn't a wise gift to give their already depressed second son. I'm convinced some people are, quite simply, sane but evil.

[Lavenia]

When she gets to the big house she will have Big Bertha putting straightener in her hair. IMO (Her hair looks pretty straight to me anyway and I've never understood those comments about straighteners) IMO

Maybe they'll jerk her hair straight when they knock that smirk off of her face. (:ohmy: I'm getting violent!)

[ConchGirl]

I agree. This is the first time I saw that interview.

Why was she on there if she didn't want to answer questions? Nobody twisted her arm to go on Greta's show and surely she couldn't be so naive' to think that she wouldn't be asked any questions.

If you are into Cindy watch this 8/29 Casey was released first time on 8/21 and it's the same day Tim Miller showed up the first time. http://www.wftv.com/video/17334271/index.html

It is very interesting now that we know what became of poor Caylee.

[CaféAuLait's]

oh, yes, I understand what you are saying. I truly dont believe she was ever taken to a mental health professional. I dont believe there will be any surprises regarding that.

IMO, the bubble a/k/a as the anthony household, was 'attempting' to keep a lid on her behaviour for many years....no consequences...they took their own action: simply not allowing that information to escape the bubble.

it escaped when Casey stole from grandmom. Prior to that, it escaped when Casey stole from Ryan P. she stole checks from Lee as well, but he is part of the insulation. Ryan didnt press charges probably because he felt bad after he heard a violin serenade. Grandmom didnt press charges (family and all).

so then Casey moved out of that circle.....IMO there are alot of individuals out there who were tapped, but not enough to notice and unable to even guess who stole from them. not the rich girl with the nanny!

IMO

best regards,
Pru


And the great "job". The girl is an accomplished liar who I believe was enabled by her mother becuse her mother did not want to see the truth-- which astounds me. Why did she seemingly cover for Casey so much-- I have wondered? Does Casey have something on her or is Cindy just an enabler who can't accept her daughter is a liar.

[Neffy]

Hi Oregongal,

Regarding the 2nd autopsy. That seems to be a moot point. I can't believe any new information can be put forward from it.



I brought this over from the links thread:
State Tries To Limit Images Of Caylee's Remains

The discs include X-rays and photos of her body, which were supposed to be delivered to the defense under a court’s order. But in a new motion, the Orange-Osceola State Attorney’s Office said it has concerns that the images will be reproduced and sold, according to WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing.

In this motion, the state argues that substantial licensing fees have been paid for pictures and video of Caylee taken while she was alive. That is why prosecutors want the judge to place special restrictions on digitized images of the remains before they hand them over to attorney Jose Baez and his defense team.

http://www.wesh.com/news/18422273/detail.html
http://www.wesh.com/video/18423791/index.html



This is what they're waiting on. State doesn't trust them as far as they can throw them.

That's the delay.

Regardless the most important part is that Caylee still has not been laid to rest somewhere. What that has to do with any of the above nonsense is beyond me.

[aubrey04]

I agree. This is the first time I saw that interview.

Why was she on there if she didn't want to answer questions? Nobody twisted her arm to go on Greta's show and surely she couldn't be so naive' to think that she wouldn't be asked any questions.

Greta even laughed when Cindy asked her "not to ask any stupid questions".. which to me meant - any questions about Casey. Apparently Cindy failed to realize that Casey was the key to finding Caylee.. until our hero the meter man entered the picture at least :biggrin: ... What about her talking about the imaginary nanny, which nobody - including Cindy - had ever seen or even spoken to on the telephone.

She's full of it, just like Casey.

Another thing -- Cindy seemed to be annoyed by the thought of "stupid questions" and got testy when Greta asked Qs about Casey b/c of course she wanted to spend the time talking about Caylee, but for a lot of the interview - Cindy was talking about her sleeping habits and her own mental health and exhaustion.. not Caylee.

Like I said -- I am so glad they have zipped it. :)

[Lavenia]

Started a new thread when you're ready.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=347502

[Neffy]

Scott Peck wrote an interesting book putting forth his belief that Evil as a mental illness can be identified and should be included in the DSM-IV. The most chilling case study I remember was about a severely depressed boy whose brother had committed suicide by shooting himself with a rifle. The doctor suspected evil in the parents when, in trying to begin rapport with the depressed boy he asked him what he got for Christmas. The boy reported to the doctor that his parents had given him the rifle his brother shot himself with as a Christmas present. The parents couldn't see why that maybe wasn't a wise gift to give their already depressed second son. I'm convinced some people are, quite simply, sane but evil.

Oh Good God! Evil, that's sick!

[need2no]

When she gets to the big house she will have Big Bertha putting straightener in her hair. IMO (Her hair looks pretty straight to me anyway and I've never understood those comments about straighteners) IMO


I'm glad you brought that up because I wondered the same. I've only seen one pic of casey with any curl in her hair, (at a nightclub), and it was obviously rolled to look that way. Also it appears George and Cindy have straight hair, so I didn't understand the references to hair straightening either.

[Lavenia]

I'm glad you brought that up because I wondered the same. I've only seen one pic of casey with any curl in her hair, (at a nightclub), and it was obviously rolled to look that way. Also it appears George and Cindy have straight hair, so I didn't understand the references to hair straightening either.

I imagine someone else said they have to straighten their hair so she had to say, "Me TOO! I have to straighten my hair, too! I spend $600 a month to straighten my hair!" :rolleyes:

[Neffy]

Started a new thread when you're ready.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=347502

I have to see what everyone's talking about and maybe carry one over to the new diggs.