Saturday January 3/08 - Morning Part 1

[ellegna]

Please take a moment to light a Candle for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle


:rose::rose::rose:


You may also wish to sign Caylee's Guest Book

http://www.legacy.com/SPTimes/GB/GuestbookView.aspx?PersonId=121581033

[MissouriGMom]

Thanks ellegna! I've been waiting for a new thread this morning. Good morning.

[ellegna]

Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains

(http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html)
A former bodyguard for Casey Anthony has addressed accusations that he knew where Caylee Anthony’s remains were before they were found in December.

[MoonFlwr]

Investigator Denies Finding Caylee's Remains

(http://www.wesh.com/news/18401020/detail.html)
A former bodyguard for Casey Anthony has addressed accusations that he knew where Caylee Anthony’s remains were before they were found in December.

As if we need another Casey to complicate matters! :tongue:How ironic!

Thanks for the new thread, Ellegna. :)

[ellegna]

Thanks ellegna! I've been waiting for a new thread this morning. Good morning.

Good morning friend
I went on the other link to catch up and thought I was on the wrong thread. :laugh:
Thought I would start a new fresh thread for this morning

[ellegna]

As if we need another Casey to complicate matters! :tongue:How ironic!

Thanks for the new thread, Ellegna. :)

Your welcome

Why do I get the feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg and this case will get more bizarre as the days pass?

[PuffDragon]

I just posted when I realized there was a new morning thread so I'm bringing this over:


<snipped>
Anyway, Casey needs to plead guilty and get this whole mess over with, but she won't. She'll drag this on and on. Just pathetic.

I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record but............
Why would Casey want "to plead guilty and get this whole mess over with"? What's in it for her?

[PuffDragon]

Your welcome

Why do I get the feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg and this case will get more bizarre as the days pass?

Probably because it's been doing that all along.

[MoonFlwr]

I just posted when I realized there was a new morning thread so I'm bringing this over:



I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record but............
Why would Casey want "to plead guilty and get this whole mess over with"? What's in it for her?

True...all that's in it for her is a cold, unwelcoming prison cell, for (what will seem like) eternity!

[PuffDragon]

True...all that's in it for her is a cold, unwelcoming prison cell, for (what will seem like) eternity!

And she's going to have that anyway.
As long as she continues to hang onto her TNDI (The Nanny Did It) defense she can keep believing that the world knows she didn't do anything wrong.

[MissouriGMom]

I just posted when I realized there was a new morning thread so I'm bringing this over:



I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record but............
Why would Casey want "to plead guilty and get this whole mess over with"? What's in it for her?

Probably nothing. I just woke up when I posted that. I'm just frustrated and want answers, but that will probably never happen. She'll keep her mouth shut for the next 80 years! moo

[ellegna]

George Anthony: ‘I don't think I'll ever have closure (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8187300&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The Anthony family has made it clear that they will do any on camera interviews until after Caylee Marie is laid to rest.

Looks like a typo and I believe Fox meant to print will not do

[MoonFlwr]

George speaks to the media

Lee moves back home

Article and video

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8187300&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Thanks for the link, Swarovski.

From above link:

"There is a hole in my heart big enough for a truck to drive through,” Anthony said. “I don't think I'll ever have closure. At this point I'm just hoping to someday be able to accept that Caylee is gone."

How tragic!

[brodysho]

In the one hand, I do feel for this family, I do think they loved Caylee....but on the other hand, I do not. George KNEW Caylee was dead and it was indicative in his interviews. Instead of keeping their yaps shut, they hopped on the casey train and acted outrageous/inappropriate.
I understand they were clinging onto some sort of hope that Caylee was alive, but they didn't have to obstruct justice in the process. They KNEW.

[MissouriGMom]

Thanks for the link, Swarovski.

From above link:

"There is a hole in my heart big enough for a truck to drive through,” Anthony said. “I don't think I'll ever have closure. At this point I'm just hoping to someday be able to accept that Caylee is gone."

How tragic!

Yes, very tragic. He also said that he wants to see and speak to Casey, but of course, she won't see anyone because everything is recorded. Well, to me that speaks volumes. If she were innocent, she would be begging to see her family. Makes me sick.

[PuffDragon]

Probably nothing. I just woke up when I posted that. I'm just frustrated and want answers, but that will probably never happen. She'll keep her mouth shut for the next 80 years! moo

I know, it's what everybody wishes, even if they're not saying it, because we all want to know the real story and she's the only one who knows what happened. We all know she can't say a truthful word, and we would completely distrust anything she does say, but we want to hear it from her anyway. What a conundrum.

One of the behaviors of a sociopath is becoming bored easily, particularly when he is no longer receiving any reinforcement to keep on. I think Casey is bored with all of this now and just wants to drop it and go on to the next thing in her life. It's part of her pattern....... this boyfriend isn't giving me what I need any more, I'll start working on a new one and get rid of him........ my parents are beginning to catch on to me, I'm going to have to get rid of them.......... my daughter is becoming a millstone around my neck, I'll have to get rid of her.........

I kind of feel that it's all the same to her.

[CC I See]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8187300&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Anthony also said he misses his daughter Casey as well. He would like be able to visit Casey in jail, even if it’s just to say hello and hear her voice and see how she is doing.


This statement just twist my stomach..... the state of denial that leads to this utterance of unconditional love. There is no hope for these people.

Is there any hope that one day they will see the truth and support justice for Caylee?

[MoonFlwr]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8187300&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Anthony also said he misses his daughter Casey as well. He would like be able to visit Casey in jail, even if it’s just to say hello and hear her voice and see how she is doing.


This statement just twist my stomach..... the state of denial that leads to this utterance of unconditional love. There is no hope for these people.

Is there any hope that one day they will see the truth and support justice for Caylee?

But he is her father! Of course he loves her and wants to see her - he loves her. (No matter what she may've done). Justice for Caylee is a separate issue.

[MissouriGMom]

Puff, you're so right. She is bored and doesn't understand why she can't just go on with her life. What's the big deal? Yuck! I still need more coffee.

[OneUp]

...as usual, I got "left" back on the old thread catching up. Having caught up, and said my piece there, I just wanted to pop in this a.m. and say hello to the moring posters!
FWIW, I wish Casey would just come clean and try for a deal too...it would save everyone much grief, not to mention money. I KNOW that sounds a little callous, but this case has already been so expensive! The funding is a very real issue for the SO, etc. They need to cover all of that expense, and now the taxpayers will be funding what is bound to be a lengthy trial with many delays and a full calvacade of appeals to follow.
*Sigh* It would really be the kindest thing for George and Cindy too...maybe then they could begin to process the real truth and heal inasmuch as is possible. I feel terrible, seeing them in their current state, even if they have brought some of that suffering on themselves!
JMO.

[PuffDragon]

George Anthony: ‘I don't think I'll ever have closure (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8187300&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The Anthony family has made it clear that they will do any on camera interviews until after Caylee Marie is laid to rest.

Looks like a typo and I believe Fox meant to print will not do

Yes, of course.
It seems to me that the way the family is acting now is a pretty good indication that:
1)G & S honestly didn't want to believe Caylee was really gone for good until they simply couldn't avoid it any longer, and
2) they have finally started acting, at least privately, like a normal grieving family unit.

It will be very interesting to see, if and when they start doing interviews again, whether they leave that abrasive, ignorant behavior and start acting like we've been wanting them to act all along. If they do I'd be willing to bet that the country will put aside all the dislike it has had for them and embrace them in their pain.

[MoonFlwr]

Not too sure if you guys have seen this video. Scuse me if it's been posted already!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/home.php

[PuffDragon]

Yes, very tragic. He also said that he wants to see and speak to Casey, but of course, she won't see anyone because everything is recorded. Well, to me that speaks volumes. If she were innocent, she would be begging to see her family. Makes me sick.


That's what they say publicly. I think they know that if they went to the jail Casey would refuse to see them, and not because 'it's being recorded'. Casey is 'winning' already by not allowing them to 'reach out' to her. She certainly doesn't share their grief and I suspect doesn't feel like bothering to put on a show. If they go to the jail she will win again by turning them away. It's a no-win situation for G & C and an all-win for Casey.

[ellegna]

Yes, very tragic. He also said that he wants to see and speak to Casey, but of course, she won't see anyone because everything is recorded. Well, to me that speaks volumes. If she were innocent, she would be begging to see her family. Makes me sick.

I so agree.
I would be begging to see my family if I were innocent. Worrying whether the visit is being recorded would the the furthest thing on my mind.

[MissouriGMom]

I so agree.
I would be begging to see my family if I were innocent. Worrying whether the visit is being recorded would the the furthest thing on my mind.

Absolutely! That's why from day one I knew she was guilty. Too many red flags, don't ya know.

[Regina.Lampert]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8187300&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Anthony also said he misses his daughter Casey as well. He would like be able to visit Casey in jail, even if it’s just to say hello and hear her voice and see how she is doing.


This statement just twist my stomach..... the state of denial that leads to this utterance of unconditional love. There is no hope for these people.

Is there any hope that one day they will see the truth and support justice for Caylee?


It is nauseating.

george: Hello gorgeous, how are ya since they found Caylee's bones in that trash bag? Anything we can do for you?

They make me sick! Where is the love and justice for Caylee Marie Anthony????

[Adonna]

George's statement to the press yesterday just shows me that the A's are just going to continue to coddle that empty egg of a daughter who is void of any remorse of her actions, especially to sweet Caylee. Insomuch as I do have compassion for their loss of Caylee, I am sickened that they are going to continue to play into Casey's lies.
IMHO

[n/t]

I wonder why Lee moved back home with his parents? I find that odd. It's not like he was in another city or state. He lived just a couple of blocks away. He could've moved in temporarily to help them out or whatever but to sell his home? Maybe he's tight on cash. Defense attornies don't come cheap.

[n/t]

I just can't imagine having to be face to face with my son if he did something like this. I think they'd have to restrain me because I'd want to jump across and strangle him.

[ellegna]

I wonder why Lee moved back home with his parents? I find that odd. It's not like he was in another city or state. He lived just a couple of blocks away. He could've moved in temporarily to help them out or whatever but to sell his home? Maybe he's tight on cash. Defense attornies don't come cheap.

I know I'll be told by someone it's none of my business but..... what happened to Mallory? I thought they were living together? Did she move in with the A's too or did she jump ship?

[taylor63]

Puff, you're so right. She is bored and doesn't understand why she can't just go on with her life. What's the big deal? Yuck! I still need more coffee.

I agree a parenmt can't turn off their love for their child even if they have done something horrific as Casey from all evidence appears to have done. I think what bothers most folks is they feel the Anthonys have in one way or another covered for and lied for Casey from day 1 and Caylee the real victim has been forgotten in all this.

[?noanswer]

I wonder why Lee moved back home with his parents? I find that odd. It's not like he was in another city or state. He lived just a couple of blocks away. He could've moved in temporarily to help them out or whatever but to sell his home? Maybe he's tight on cash. Defense attornies don't come cheap.

I don't know if he owned or rented the house. If he is indeed traveling on his job, maybe it was not cost effective to keep the residence. One would think it would be a matter of money for the whole family. My question is where is his girlfriend? JMO

[msgatorslayer]

I wonder why Lee moved back home with his parents? I find that odd. It's not like he was in another city or state. He lived just a couple of blocks away. He could've moved in temporarily to help them out or whatever but to sell his home? Maybe he's tight on cash. Defense attornies don't come cheap.

Morning, everyone!

Did he even own his home? I don't think he did. Unless it's a owner finance type thing because his name doesn't show up as the owner of record on any property in Orange County.

What about his GF, Mallory? Wonder if she moved in as well or if she finally jumped ship. Maybe it was her house Lee lived at. Anyone know her last name?

JMO, I think they're all tight on cash. And one home is cheaper than 2 if they pool their money for bills and such.

[BJames]

Good morning to all...I haven't been posting but have tried to keep up with the links thread over the holiday.
I honestly believe that if baby Caylee's remains had not been found Casey would still want some family contact, the Anthony's hooked their wagon to the theory that Caylee was still out there somewhere...and would have continued to do so, thus support the lies from Casey.
The tide has turned and they can't buy into that anymore, and of course Casey has lost her cheerleading team. Right now my guess is that she is clinging to Baez and he is telling her all is well...'Just look at the defense heads I have hired, the best in the country..' And little Casey Sue Who has dancing sugar plums in her head....she believes what she wants to believe.

Part of me wants her to come clean...but the other part of me really wants to see this go to trial. I don't think Casey has it in her to 'confess'...my guess is that she has always been able to weasel past any true admissions with Cindy. It was always probably much easier to 'give in' to Casey than fight her...and every lie got covered with another.

Justice for Caylee..

Just my opinion of course...

[msgatorslayer]

I know I'll be told by someone it's none of my business but..... what happened to Mallory? I thought they were living together? Did she move in with the A's too or did she jump ship?

The day after Christmas I learned that my MIL had a realtor take her to view the house behind me that is for sale. :chicken:

I hope Mallory thinks long and hard before moving in with the whole Anthony clan, minus PPOFICA, of course.

[SandyO]

It is very interesting that Lee moved back into the family home. Did Mallory move there with him?

[Regina.Lampert]

I agree a parenmt can't turn off their love for their child even if they have done something horrific as Casey from all evidence appears to have done. I think what bothers most folks is they feel the Anthonys have in one way or another covered for and lied for Casey from day 1 and Caylee the real victim has been forgotten in all this.

You hit it Taylor. Many people feel the anthony's actions prior to this murder, contributed to it. casey anthony imo, felt totally justified in getting rid of a problem (Caylee) that was interfering with her lifestyle and she expected her parents to lie and cover for her. They have totally fulfilled her expectations, imo.

[OneUp]

Good morning to all...I haven't been posting but have tried to keep up with the links thread over the holiday.
I honestly believe that if baby Caylee's remains had not been found Casey would still want some family contact, the Anthony's hooked their wagon to the theory that Caylee was still out there somewhere...and would have continued to do so, thus support the lies from Casey.
The tide has turned and they can't buy into that anymore, and of course Casey has lost her cheerleading team. Right now my guess is that she is clinging to Baez and he is telling her all is well...'Just look at the defense heads I have hired, the best in the country..' And little Casey Sue Who has dancing sugar plums in her head....she believes what she wants to believe.

Part of me wants her to come clean...but the other part of me really wants to see this go to trial. I don't think Casey has it in her to 'confess'...my guess is that she has always been able to weasel past any true admissions with Cindy. It was always probably much easier to 'give in' to Casey than fight her...and every lie got covered with another.

Justice for Caylee..

Just my opinion of course...I have to agree with you that I think the odds of Casey confessing or making a deal are zilch...I WISH she would as it would be best for so many, but I really don't think she has the ability to take responsibility or recant her lies. I also don't believe that Jose would be very happy if she did, IMO he wants to be her "White Knight" and take this to trial for many reasnos....
I firmly believe that between her hubris, and his assurances, that she still thinks she will walk away scott free. That's utterly delusionalof you ask me, but utterly delusional seems an apt description of both Baez and Casey....it's looking like "Utterly Delusional" might just be written on the Anthony family crest!
JMO.
JMO.

[trich]

I agree a parenmt can't turn off their love for their child even if they have done something horrific as Casey from all evidence appears to have done. I think what bothers most folks is they feel the Anthonys have in one way or another covered for and lied for Casey from day 1 and Caylee the real victim has been forgotten in all this.



You got that right.
They have known from the day they picked up the car ( & finding Casey)that Caylee was dead.
Loving your daughter is one thing but lying for her is another.

[msgatorslayer]

Mallory's last name is Parker. There is no record of her owning a home in Orange County either.

They probably rented the house on Eagle Feather Drive. Making it much easier to cut ties and Lee move back home.

[Adonna]

Lee may have moved back in with his parents because of Caylee's funeral which should be fairly soon. George made it clear yesterday that there will be no interview coverage until after the funeral. It's possible Lee is there in prepertion for any problems that may arise from GA or CA, media or public. Just a thought...IMO

[CANDYKISSES]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8187300&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Anthony also said he misses his daughter Casey as well. He would like be able to visit Casey in jail, even if it’s just to say hello and hear her voice and see how she is doing.


This statement just twist my stomach..... the state of denial that leads to this utterance of unconditional love. There is no hope for these people.

Is there any hope that one day they will see the truth and support justice for Caylee?


I don't think you can dismiss a child you have created, loved and nurtured from your heart. They can seek justice by simply telling the truth. What good is in it to preserve hate for Casey?

Being a parent requires unconditional love, even when the times are REALLY BAD. We sign on for the long haul and if you can't do that, well, there are other choices. Not everyone is cut out for the job IMO.

I am of the opinion they can do both but it's going to be a really hard job. They need to come clean with all they collectively know from where I stand. :crying:

[BJames]

<<<snipped only for bandwidth>>>....it's looking like "Utterly Delusional" might just be written on the Anthony family crest!
JMO.
JMO.

I totally agree OneUp.
It was interesting last night to once again listen to the very early recordings of the interviews Casey had with the detectives, I do believe they were at Universal just after they knew she was lying about her 'office' there.
They keep bringing her around to agree that everything she has told them (step by step) is a lie...and she agrees...but she sticks to the lies.
I have known a person that was much like this and I honestly believe that she will die denying the truth, the principal code being 'admit nothing'. It certainly reminds me of another murder case we have followed...a mother gave her son that same advice. As far as I know he still has not admitted to anything and is sitting in jail...he and Casey are cut of the same cloth.
Sadly...a baby girl got in the way of this woman/girl.
I just hope that someday we will find out that poor Caylee didn't suffer, but alas probably the only one who truly knows the answer to that isn't talking. Karma is going to be a *itch for this gal.

Just my opinion of course...

[CANDYKISSES]

You hit it Taylor. Many people feel the anthony's actions prior to this murder, contributed to it. casey anthony imo, felt totally justified in getting rid of a problem (Caylee) that was interfering with her lifestyle and she expected her parents to lie and cover for her. They have totally fulfilled her expectations, imo.


Good morning Regina. Don't you think writing Casey off would be giving her the same scenario?

I am repulsed by both mother and daughter and I doubt I'll ever change that opinion. However, I do believe they are both psychotic and plenty of people hold down jobs for me to listen to the Cindy squad go on about her nursing job. She just had more energy than Casey and DRIVE TO CONTROL IMO.

They need to find a way to co-exist with some peace and be able to visit Casey behind bars AT TIMES THEY CHOOSE TO within the guidelines of the corrections policies.

JMO :crying:

[Libertie]

Good morning to all...I haven't been posting but have tried to keep up with the links thread over the holiday.
I honestly believe that if baby Caylee's remains had not been found Casey would still want some family contact, the Anthony's hooked their wagon to the theory that Caylee was still out there somewhere...and would have continued to do so, thus support the lies from Casey.
The tide has turned and they can't buy into that anymore, and of course Casey has lost her cheerleading team. Right now my guess is that she is clinging to Baez and he is telling her all is well...'Just look at the defense heads I have hired, the best in the country..' And little Casey Sue Who has dancing sugar plums in her head....she believes what she wants to believe.

Part of me wants her to come clean...but the other part of me really wants to see this go to trial. I don't think Casey has it in her to 'confess'...my guess is that she has always been able to weasel past any true admissions with Cindy. It was always probably much easier to 'give in' to Casey than fight her...and every lie got covered with another.

Justice for Caylee..

Just my opinion of course...If Casey were to "come clean", who could believe anything she said?

[CANDYKISSES]

Mysterious phone call may hold clue!

http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html#-

Lord, is Lenny still dropping clues?:scared:

[AMS]

I wonder why Lee moved back home with his parents? I find that odd. It's not like he was in another city or state. He lived just a couple of blocks away. He could've moved in temporarily to help them out or whatever but to sell his home? Maybe he's tight on cash. Defense attornies don't come cheap.

n/t - my first thought was the $$$ issue as well. IMO

[n/t]

Mysterious phone call may hold clue!

http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html#-


Ugh! Padilla. What's the real story? Padilla keeps getting Nov 15 and Dec 15 mixed up. On HLN the other night he corrected himself and said Dec 15th is when he saw the video.

Does anyone know what the true Leonard Padilla story is? Does anyone care? LOL

[AMS]

Morning, everyone!

Did he even own his home? I don't think he did. Unless it's a owner finance type thing because his name doesn't show up as the owner of record on any property in Orange County.

What about his GF, Mallory? Wonder if she moved in as well or if she finally jumped ship. Maybe it was her house Lee lived at. Anyone know her last name?

JMO, I think they're all tight on cash. And one home is cheaper than 2 if they pool their money for bills and such.


Morning - IIRC Mallory's last name is Parker. I'd feel better if another poster could confirm this one though.

IMO.

[msgatorslayer]

Lee may have moved back in with his parents because of Caylee's funeral which should be fairly soon. George made it clear yesterday that there will be no interview coverage until after the funeral. It's possible Lee is there in prepertion for any problems that may arise from GA or CA, media or public. Just a thought...IMO

Good point.

I hope no more problems occur at their house. People need to leave them alone. No matter what kind of weird things they may say. Caylee is dead and her remains found. Casey is in jail. Just leave them alone in their own house. JMO

[msgatorslayer]

Morning - IIRC Mallory's last name is Parker. I'd feel better if another poster could confirm this one though.

IMO.

Yea, AMS, it is Parker. I searched for a link after asking.

[brodysho]

It is nauseating.

george: Hello gorgeous, how are ya since they found Caylee's bones in that trash bag? Anything we can do for you?

They make me sick! Where is the love and justice for Caylee Marie Anthony????

Exactly. Couldn't have said it better. It makes me want to vomit.

[hamebone]

Lee may have moved back because he is worried about his parents. Cindy and George need mental care treatment IMO.

[PuffDragon]

Lord, is Lenny still dropping clues?:scared:

I just use Lenny for entertainment purposes now. Sort of the same as most of the psychics. Occasionally each gets it right. I don't take any of it seriously but it's amusing to watch them spin.

[n/t]

Lee may have moved back in with his parents because of Caylee's funeral which should be fairly soon. George made it clear yesterday that there will be no interview coverage until after the funeral. It's possible Lee is there in prepertion for any problems that may arise from GA or CA, media or public. Just a thought...IMO

I think it's a money issue.

[CANDYKISSES]

Ugh! Padilla. What's the real story? Padilla keeps getting Nov 15 and Dec 15 mixed up. On HLN the other night he corrected himself and said Dec 15th is when he saw the video.

Does anyone know what the true Leonard Padilla story is? Does anyone care? LOL


I would hope that OCSD has already ordered phone records on several people showing up lately and I'll just leave it at that.

:thumbup:

[bchand]

If Casey were to "come clean", who could believe anything she said?

Libertie - not I. I would think Jose had just written another script for her. But then, I doubt I'd believe anything from any of the Anthony family at this point.

[MissouriGMom]

Ugh! Padilla. What's the real story? Padilla keeps getting Nov 15 and Dec 15 mixed up. On HLN the other night he corrected himself and said Dec 15th is when he saw the video.

Does anyone know what the true Leonard Padilla story is? Does anyone care? LOL

No and no.

[n/t]

Lee may have moved back because he is worried about his parents. Cindy and George need mental care treatment IMO.

They sure do but I don't think that's the reason. Frankly, Lee needs mental care as much as his parents.

[CANDYKISSES]

I just use Lenny for entertainment purposes now. Sort of the same as most of the psychics. Occasionally each gets it right. I don't take any of it seriously but it's amusing to watch them spin.


Yes, that's pretty much where we are now. Whatever became of the notorious travelling satellite man MYRT? :loveeyes:

:w00t:

[n/t]

Are you saying that a realtor was showing Mallory a house behind you?

LOL. No, msgatorslayer MIL was.

[n/t]

I would hope that OCSD has already ordered phone records on several people showing up lately and I'll just leave it at that.

:thumbup:


I'm sure they do too

[msgatorslayer]

Are you saying that a realtor was showing Mallory a house behind you?

:laugh: No. My MIL was. And I'd probably rather have Mallory living behind me than her.

I would feel bad for Mallory if she has moved in with the Anthony clan.

Most people, even who love their family dearly, do not want to live with them, or near them. Causes to many problems.

[court~critic1®]

I think it's a money issue.


What type of money issue do you think it is???



They sure have plenty of it right now. moo

[n/t]

I agree. They have to grieve as a family. Lee moving in is a sign of pulling together, all are in a financial crunch right now as well as an emotional crunch. Another poster criticized GA for wanting to speak to Casey to see how she is. I think that is normal. It is his daughter regardless of what she did. They just have to learn how to love and support her in this in the right way. This family will suffer for many years to come.

She obviously doesn't want their love and support. She refuses to see them from what I understand.

They'll see her at trial and she can wave to them like she did at the bond hearing.

[bchand]

I think that's a crock. I think this is a cross between Baez isolating her from them to prepare her for a roll-over with no guilt and a little bit more spite work by Casey because they testified against her in that one hearing. After watching NG rerun last night, the sound of Casey's angry bitter voice reaming Amy on the phone about how nobody in her own family is on her side. All they care about is Caylee. All they care about is finding Caylee. (And how conveniently she catches herself with "and that's all I want too.") It soundes like a 14 year old having a temper tantrum because nobody was paying attention to her. Jealousy. And didn't Cindy write on the myspace about how Caylee was taken away from her because of jealousy? This is starting to match up. But I need one solid piece of evidence tying Casey directly to Caylee's death.

"They" did not testify against her and she was not talking to Amy on that phone call. I posted this response to you last night. It was Christine she was talking to.

[CANDYKISSES]

I think that's a crock. I think this is a cross between Baez isolating her from them to prepare her for a roll-over with no guilt and a little bit more spite work by Casey because they testified against her in that one hearing. After watching NG rerun last night, the sound of Casey's angry bitter voice reaming Amy on the phone about how nobody in her own family is on her side. All they care about is Caylee. All they care about is finding Caylee. (And how conveniently she catches herself with "and that's all I want too.") It soundes like a 14 year old having a temper tantrum because nobody was paying attention to her. Jealousy. And didn't Cindy write on the myspace about how Caylee was taken away from her because of jealousy? This is starting to match up. But I need one solid piece of evidence tying Casey directly to Caylee's death.

I thought that was Kristina, the family friend. Are you telling me she DID IN FACT speak with Amy on the phone from jail?

:confused:

[3girls]

Maybe Lee thinks he is going to spend some time in the pokey,and wanted to stay with mama and papa for a little while.

[starling]

Puff, you're so right. She is bored and doesn't understand why she can't just go on with her life. What's the big deal? Yuck! I still need more coffee.

You nailed it IMO!





:beer: havin' some Hazelnut coffee

[n/t]

What type of money issue do you think it is???



They sure have plenty of it right now. moo


They do? :confused:


Cindy isn't working. They have 2 defense attornies they need to pay. At the bond hearing, IIRC, they didn't have money to bail Casey out. George was unemployed up until Caylee was born. Cindy was the only one working.

So where did they get the "plenty of it" as you refer in your post?

[n/t]

We don't know if she is still refusing to see them or if it is because of advice from all of the attorneys.

Well, it was reported that she refused to see them because the calls are videotaped and recorded.

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning Regina. Don't you think writing Casey off would be giving her the same scenario?

I am repulsed by both mother and daughter and I doubt I'll ever change that opinion. However, I do believe they are both psychotic and plenty of people hold down jobs for me to listen to the Cindy squad go on about her nursing job. She just had more energy than Casey and DRIVE TO CONTROL IMO.

They need to find a way to co-exist with some peace and be able to visit Casey behind bars AT TIMES THEY CHOOSE TO within the guidelines of the corrections policies.

JMO :crying:

Hiya Candy!! Here is where I am at this point. I want the anthonys to love and support their daughter up until the point that they interfere with this investigation. To me, that means meeting with LE and the prosecution and telling the entire truth, without demanding anything in return. They owe Caylee Anthony that much at least.

In the coming days they will define themselves, imo. If it turns out they are still backing casey anthony's ridiculous lies about a nanny kidnapping, imo they have failed Caylee, once again.

If I were in their shoes, I would be very concerned with casey anthony's immortal soul. If she barred me from visiting her, I would write her a letter begging her to tell the truth and admit what she did and spend the remainder of her life making up for it. To me that is true love and support, not swearing to her lies.

[ellegna]

I think that's a crock. I think this is a cross between Baez isolating her from them to prepare her for a roll-over with no guilt and a little bit more spite work by Casey because they testified against her in that one hearing. After watching NG rerun last night, the sound of Casey's angry bitter voice reaming Amy on the phone about how nobody in her own family is on her side. All they care about is Caylee. All they care about is finding Caylee. (And how conveniently she catches herself with "and that's all I want too.") It soundes like a 14 year old having a temper tantrum because nobody was paying attention to her. Jealousy. And didn't Cindy write on the myspace about how Caylee was taken away from her because of jealousy? This is starting to match up. But I need one solid piece of evidence tying Casey directly to Caylee's death.

My bold
That wasn't Amy. That was Christina and yes it was quite a telling spectacle

[marshmallow]

That's what they say publicly. I think they know that if they went to the jail Casey would refuse to see them, and not because 'it's being recorded'. Casey is 'winning' already by not allowing them to 'reach out' to her. She certainly doesn't share their grief and I suspect doesn't feel like bothering to put on a show. If they go to the jail she will win again by turning them away. It's a no-win situation for G & C and an all-win for Casey.

my son said something similar last night. He said that by not talking to or seeing them Casey finally found a way to get their undivided attention. As long as she keeps them at arm's length they're going to be focused on her :mad:

[*MoonRider*]

We don't know if she is still refusing to see them or if it is because of advice from all of the attorneys.

Cindy said they weren't visiting to keep the focus on Caylee. Now that Caylee is gone it seems they aren't visiting to protect Casey. It never was about Caylee IMO. I wish George & Cindy would come out and THANK everyone for all the help in searching for Caylee. I won't hold my breath. IMO I think they are busy looking for the highest bidder for exclusive photo rights for the memorial. JMO

[Katt2]

In the coming days they will define themselves, imo. If it turns out they are still backing casey anthony's ridiculous lies about a nanny kidnapping, imo they have failed Caylee, once again.

~~~~snipped~~~~

This will be a defining moment for me. I will still have compassion for them in the loss of Caylee and the terrible tumultuous life Casey has thrust them into. But I will no longer try to defend their actions.

[court~critic1®]

They do? :confused:


Cindy isn't working. They have 2 defense attornies they need to pay. At the bond hearing, IIRC, they didn't have money to bail Casey out. George was unemployed up until Caylee was born. Cindy was the only one working.

So where did they get the "plenty of it" as you refer in your post?



Can you say donations from the public. Movie deals , book deals, and the list goes on and on.

[bchand]

You kinda sound angry, there, friend. I am sorry I did not see your response. I went to bed. I also apologize for not being quick on the draw with the names. Age, you know. Also, please forgive me for using the word "they". I meant to say Lee and George and Cindy.

I posted yesterday begging folks that already have their minds up that Casey is guilty of murder, to lighten up on us folks that are still not so sure that is the case. We are tired of getting beaten up on these boards for holding out to be sure. Guess I need to beg some more.

Did I fix that sufficiently for ya?

No. Lee and Cindy have not testified against Casey and we do not know what George said in the Grand Jury hearing.

You're free to believe what you want. People who have followed this case since July 15th know the facts and already have had plenty of time to form an opinion.

[SavannahStar]

Can you say donations from the public. Movie deals , book deals, and the list goes on and on.

Glad you have "IMO" in your siggy, cc, because we have no proof of that. I really haven't seen any indication at all that they have plenty of money......

[BJames]

As far as Casey telling the 'true story'....I guess unless it totally matched up with facts already known I wouldn't believe a word from her.
I do think Baez has her convinced that he has a chance of getting her off...or maybe her brain just believes that?
Ooops a question that I have been wanting to ask for a bit now..if anyone knows?
Is Casey still reading law books in jail? I know for a while the report was that she was spending her time reading...and buying food things and such.
For anyone in the know? Does she get to blow dry/straighten her hair everyday, put on make up and the like? It just feels so 'easy' for her in there...but of course she hasn't been found guilty of a crime yet I guess.
It just sounds so stange to me...I volunteer at a couple of facilities for street folks, including a soup kitchen. These people do nothing 'wrong' yet they sure don't get what Casey does in jail..a nice warm place to sleep, meals, showers...reading material. It just doesn't seem 'right' in some ways...but I do understand why it is that way.
Arghhh..I got lost in my own questions.
Is she still reading (law) books and buying 'extra' food items?

Thanks to anyone who knows...

[ellegna]

my son said something similar last night. He said that by not talking to or seeing them Casey finally found a way to get their undivided attention. As long as she keeps them at arm's length they're going to be focused on her :mad:

So true.
If there was ever a time for the A's to exercise Tough Love, this is it.

[court~critic1®]

Do you have proof, or is this just an opinion?



Do you have proof otherwise??

[WillowInFlight]

As far as Casey telling the 'true story'....I guess unless it totally matched up with facts already known I wouldn't believe a word from her.
I do think Baez has her convinced that he has a chance of getting her off...or maybe her brain just believes that?
Ooops a question that I have been wanting to ask for a bit now..if anyone knows?
Is Casey still reading law books in jail? I know for a while the report was that she was spending her time reading...and buying food things and such.
For anyone in the know? Does she get to blow dry/straighten her hair everyday, put on make up and the like? It just feels so 'easy' for her in there...but of course she hasn't been found guilty of a crime yet I guess.
It just sounds so stange to me...I volunteer at a couple of facilities for street folks, including a soup kitchen. These people do nothing 'wrong' yet they sure don't get what Casey does in jail..a nice warm place to sleep, meals, showers...reading material. It just doesn't seem 'right' in some ways...but I do understand why it is that way.
Arghhh..I got lost in my own questions.
Is she still reading (law) books and buying 'extra' food items?

Thanks to anyone who knows...

ITA this does seem like it's too easy for her, no one to answer to, no child to watch. As far as what we heard she is still ordering her goodies, and I would imagine that she is spending her time reading.

[Regina.Lampert]

You kinda sound angry, there, friend. I am sorry I did not see your response. I went to bed. I also apologize for not being quick on the draw with the names. Age, you know. Also, please forgive me for using the word "they". I meant to say Lee and George and Cindy.

I posted yesterday begging folks that already have their minds up that Casey is guilty of murder, to lighten up on us folks that are still not so sure that is the case. We are tired of getting beaten up on these boards for holding out to be sure. Guess I need to beg some more.

Did I fix that sufficiently for ya?


I don't think B was in the least bit angry in her response. I think she feels as I do very frustrated with posters coming in late to this case and posting inaccurate information.

[SavannahStar]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8187300&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Anthony also said he misses his daughter Casey as well. He would like be able to visit Casey in jail, even if it’s just to say hello and hear her voice and see how she is doing.


This statement just twist my stomach..... the state of denial that leads to this utterance of unconditional love. There is no hope for these people.

Is there any hope that one day they will see the truth and support justice for Caylee?


You know, "denial" of the truth isn't what leads to unconditional love. Unconditional love shown by parents is IN SPITE OF what a child may have done. Unconditional love is there first, and if it is true unconditional love it remains, no matter what.

His statement in no way shows he does not see the truth. I don't know if he does or doesn't but you're reading more into it than is there.

Would you have preferred he said just the opposite? That he has no desire to see Casey and he hates her, is disowning her forever? And if he said that, there would be "hope for these people?"

I just don't get it. I think one can disagree with some of their previous words and actions but to want them to just rip out and deny their love for their daughter is pretty cold.

[Katt2]

Can't prove something that doesn't exist.


It can be proven that the rumor going around that Lifetime had a movie deal with them is false and Lifetime publicly stated it.

[Regina.Lampert]

~~~~snipped~~~~

This will be a defining moment for me. I will still have compassion for them in the loss of Caylee and the terrible tumultuous life Casey has thrust them into. But I will no longer try to defend their actions.

I feel similar KittKatt, I am very sorry they have lost the love of their lives, Caylee.

Don't worry, I have the crow marinating and a nice soft down pillow for you to land on when you finally jump off that fence. :tongue:

[trich]

Lee may have moved back because he is worried about his parents. Cindy and George need mental care treatment IMO.

IMO
Lee certainly is not the one to help in that department.
He has just as many issues if not more then Cindy and George.
Also IMO they have all had mental problems way before poor Caylee was killed.

[MissouriGMom]

No. Lee and Cindy have not testified against Casey and we do not know what George said in the Grand Jury hearing.

You're free to believe what you want. People who have followed this case since July 15th know the facts and already have had plenty of time to form an opinion.

You're so right about that. I formed my opinion about her when I watched the live bond hearing on TV and heard about the smell in the car and the dog hitting in the trunk of the car and the Anthony's backyard. Everything we've learned since has only made me more sure of Casey's guilt.

[spiritwolf46]

They sure do but I don't think that's the reason. Frankly, Lee needs mental care as much as his parents.

ITA and has anyone thought that the "move in" may have been for both money issues and because they all need to get their ducks in a row and stories straight? Personally, I feel they know that they are not going to get immunity and have to now get a story down pat with Lee to help all of their azzes. Something may be coming down the pipe after this funeral. Never know.

[NYGalPal]

As far as Casey telling the 'true story'....I guess unless it totally matched up with facts already known I wouldn't believe a word from her.
I do think Baez has her convinced that he has a chance of getting her off...or maybe her brain just believes that?
Ooops a question that I have been wanting to ask for a bit now..if anyone knows?
Is Casey still reading law books in jail? I know for a while the report was that she was spending her time reading...and buying food things and such.
For anyone in the know? Does she get to blow dry/straighten her hair everyday, put on make up and the like? It just feels so 'easy' for her in there...but of course she hasn't been found guilty of a crime yet I guess.
It just sounds so stange to me...I volunteer at a couple of facilities for street folks, including a soup kitchen. These people do nothing 'wrong' yet they sure don't get what Casey does in jail..a nice warm place to sleep, meals, showers...reading material. It just doesn't seem 'right' in some ways...but I do understand why it is that way.
Arghhh..I got lost in my own questions.
Is she still reading (law) books and buying 'extra' food items?

Thanks to anyone who knows...

You'd think you would know what prisons are like by now. Did you not know Casey is in isolation? How does she access these law books? Since when does jail offer "blowouts"? Makeup in isolation?

To volunteer means actually going to the facility.

[SavannahStar]

You're right Reggie. Last night was a lesson in futility trying to keep up with the inaccurate posts, taken as gold by others.

You're torn between just skipping and scrolling or constantly watching for inaccuracies and posting links to prove them wrong (which they ignore anyway.)


I know in the last several days plenty of posts referenced "duct tape over her mouth" and that it was Caylee's book found at the site. Were you thinking of those? Yes, inaccurate due to being unconfirmed.

[bchand]

It's not like I did that on purpose. I am having a hard time keeping up with all the names. Even this new PI named Casey. The shorthand on these boards is enough to pop the top of my head off and the similar names are getting too weird for coincidence. I'll try harder with the names next time.

What about the part where you said the Anthonys have testified against her?

[hamebone]

The Anthonys need to focus on Caylee's funeral now after that they need to get some mental health care.

Stay out of the public eye, answer any questions that LE may have, and let the cards fall as they will concerning Casey.

This is one problem they cant fix for Casey.

[bchand]

I know in the last several days plenty of posts referenced "duct tape over her mouth" and that it was Caylee's book found at the site. Were you thinking of those? Yes, inaccurate due to being unconfirmed.

The duct tape issue has been "widely" reported by the news sources. It never says "alleged duct tape". I believe that at this point.

The book is subjective and we won't know until trial if that was indeed her book.

[NYGalPal]

Do you have proof otherwise??

Hi Court, iggy is best.

I do have to disagree with you about their money. There are no offers on the table. They did get their expenses paid for to show up on various news shows.

Guess Lee isn't working either since he has to move home with mommy and daddy.

[Regina.Lampert]

A: I have not come in late.
B: Just because some of us get confused about the names in the play, does not give anyone an excuse to humiliate or beat up on someone or accuse them of putting out "inaccurate information" and I won't have you doing that to me.
C: Again, I'm begging- no- demanding- all of you that have already made up your minds about Casey's guilt, give those of us who are not there yet, the same respect that you demand of us.

Sorry Regina, because I love reading your posts, but my patience is spent.

All your begging and demanding is more then likely responsible for you being "spent."

When I am shown to be inaccurate by another poster, I find it much better to apologize for my error and thank the poster, rather then go on the attack.

[SavannahStar]

The duct tape issue has been "widely" reported by the news sources. It never says "alleged duct tape". I believe that at this point.

The book is subjective and we won't know until trial if that was indeed her book.


We won't know if there was duct tape over her mouth until trial either, IMO. It may be widely reported, but that is by the media, to my knowledge unconfirmed by LE.

[court~critic1®]

Can't prove something that doesn't exist.


LOL!!!


What about all the monies they were paid, and going to get paid, for Caylees photo, videos and etc. They even tried to copyright her name. What about the so called foundation they set up to collect monies. Even have the coward Lee on the board and his future in-laws.

I personally don't give a rats behind how much money they have or don't have. I just get tired of people saying "poor Ants", no money. Lee has to move in with them for financial issues.
roflmao

[marshmallow]

C: Again, I'm begging- no- demanding- all of you that have already made up your minds about Casey's guilt, give those of us who are not there yet, the same respect that you demand of us.

Sorry Regina, because I love reading your posts, but my patience is spent.

my patience is spent too. daytime used to be the better time for getting along, now the rudness continues day and night on both sides.


I suggest EVERYONE treat others without sarcasm, insults, rude comments, and putdowns. Opinions are opinions, everyone should respect all opinions, not just the ones that are aligned with their own and no one clique is more innocent than another.

[hamebone]

We won't know if there was duct tape over her mouth until trial either, IMO. It may be widely reported, but that is by the media, to my knowledge unconfirmed by LE.


I agree, unless there was a tooth or something stuck to the tape, I dont know how they can say it was around her mouth. She was reduced to bare bones at the point they found her. And that report came out to soon for any forensic to had taken place on all the items found. IMO

[bchand]

Okay so let me get this straight. It's okay for you to post about duct tape that has not been confirmed, it's okay for you to support the theory that the Anthonys are getting book and movie deals and spending donation moneys illegally, that's okay. Because you believe that Casey is guilty and want to be the one to stick the needle in her arm when the time comes.

But, it is NOT okay for me to make a mistake about Amy vs. Christina on a telephone call, which was an honest mistake. It is NOT okay for anyone to disagree with you or to want to "reach" for more definitive evidence in order to come to YOUR conclusions and is it is NOT okay for anyone to hold out on the presumed innocent thing because YOU SAID SO...

I can see this thread CLOSING VERY FAST TODAY. GOOD JOB! :thumbsup:

Talk about drama.

What about your contention that the Anthonys have testified against Casey?

[NYGalPal]

LOL!!!


What about all the monies they were paid, and going to get paid, for Caylees photo, videos and etc. They even tried to copyright her name. What about the so called foundation they set up to collect monies. Even have the coward Lee on the board and his future in-laws.

I personally don't give a rats behind how much money they have or don't have. I just get tired of people saying "poor Ants", no money. Lee has to move in with them for financial issues.
roflmao


ITA..It is hard not to notice how much they want to cash in on Caylee and they can't muster up the energy to give her a decent burial.

:cursing:

[spiritwolf46]

Maybe Mallory kicked him to the curb?

Didn't even think about that one! Could very well be that she got fed up with all this.

Gotta run! Talk to you all later today!

[Regina.Lampert]

You're right Reggie. Last night was a lesson in futility trying to keep up with the inaccurate posts, taken as gold by others.

You're torn between just skipping and scrolling or constantly watching for inaccuracies and posting links to prove them wrong (which they ignore anyway.)

I know what you mean B. I think when I see a mistake, I'll just post a correction and not do the quote thing.

Rest assured tho, that all of us who have been on this since late June pick up on the errors.

I think as we get closer to trial, we will see this sort of activity on the rise, happens in all cases imo.

[WillowInFlight]

I know in the last several days plenty of posts referenced "duct tape over her mouth" and that it was Caylee's book found at the site. Were you thinking of those? Yes, inaccurate due to being unconfirmed.

I just wonder why if the duct tape isn't a fact LE hasn't corrected NG, Greta and everyone else that is stating it as fact.

[brodysho]

Just seen this posted on websleuths. Very good comparasion of the lies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGKHxCr0WmE&feature=channel
Part 1 of 4.


In part 2, when the investigators are listing to george what was found in the car, and they said the doll. You can hear confusion in georges voice, "the doll?", because it was known that Caylee would not leave her mama doll ever. It made me shudder hearing him say that.
Anywho, good video.

[BJames]

You'd think you would know what prisons are like by now. Did you not know Casey is in isolation? How does she access these law books? Since when does jail offer "blowouts"? Makeup in isolation?

To volunteer means actually going to the facility.

Check it out NYGalPal, I said I volunteer at facilities for street folks..NOT Jails.
The books apparently come from a library...and the makeup and 'blow outs' were questions I asked...not statements I made.

**Just my opinion of course...**

[bchand]

George testified against Casey in the GrandJury hearing. Did you not know that?

Oh did he? Were you in there? I thought it was a secret hearing.

[court~critic1®]

For the life of me, I don't see whats so funny about the situation. Whats so funny about this tragedy?


Please enlighten me as to where I was laughing at the "situation" or the "tradgey" TIA


I was laughing at the post. I do hope this clears this up for you. Lord knows, I wouldn't want to upset you.

[Regina.Lampert]

ITA and has anyone thought that the "move in" may have been for both money issues and because they all need to get their ducks in a row and stories straight? Personally, I feel they know that they are not going to get immunity and have to now get a story down pat with Lee to help all of their azzes. Something may be coming down the pipe after this funeral. Never know.

Hiya Wolfie, I agree they are circling the wagons for what's to come.

BTW, I too think the anthony's have cashed in on Caylee when they sold the rights to her image to People magazine.

Once again, Rozzi Franco, an investigative reporter for FLAnews is working on a story about the financial situation, iirc.

[bchand]

Bchand, look here, if they did or didn't, that's fine. MY point was that I felt Casey was angry because they did not stick up for her. Oh, what's the point of explaining to you. Ignore! See ya!

Bye :rolleyes:

[NYGalPal]

Okay so let me get this straight. It's okay for you to post about duct tape that has not been confirmed, it's okay for you to support the theory that the Anthonys are getting book and movie deals and spending donation moneys illegally, that's okay. Because you believe that Casey is guilty and want to be the one to stick the needle in her arm when the time comes.

But, it is NOT okay for me to make a mistake about Amy vs. Christina on a telephone call, which was an honest mistake. It is NOT okay for anyone to disagree with you or to want to "reach" for more definitive evidence in order to come to YOUR conclusions and is it is NOT okay for anyone to hold out on the presumed innocent thing because YOU SAID SO...

I can see this thread CLOSING VERY FAST TODAY. GOOD JOB! :thumbsup:
Why are you making this case about you? Do you and your friends intentially want this thread closed?

Might I suggest you take a break. Our conclusions are just fine thank you.

[bchand]

Hiya Wolfie, I agree they are circling the wagons for what's to come.

BTW, I too think the anthony's have cashed in on Caylee when they sold the rights to her image to People magazine.

Once again, Rozzi Franco, an investigative reporter for FLAnews is working on a story about the financial situation, iirc.

They've also cashed in with photos and videos to ABC. Steff posted a whole bunch of photos of Caylee last night that have "exclusive property of ABC" stamped on them.

[hamebone]

ITA..It is hard not to notice how much they want to cash in on Caylee and they can't muster up the energy to give her a decent burial.

:cursing:

Are all her remains back? I know they sent some to the FBI lab.

[WillowInFlight]

Check it out NYGalPal, I said I volunteer at facilities for street folks..NOT Jails.
The books apparently come from a library...and the makeup and 'blow outs' were questions I asked...not statements I made.

**Just my opinion of course...**

Well you were correct BJ, the first time Casey was arrested all she did was check books out, they said she was a model prisoner that spent her days reading.

[Regina.Lampert]

I know in the last several days plenty of posts referenced "duct tape over her mouth" and that it was Caylee's book found at the site. Were you thinking of those? Yes, inaccurate due to being unconfirmed.

There are links showing the book at the crimescene and the book being read at the ALF. Many of us have the opinion it is the same book.

The "duct tape" has been reported by many of the media working this case, citing law enforcement as their source.

IMO, not quite the same.

[FrankieBones1]

Your welcome

Why do I get the feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg and this case will get more bizarre as the days pass?Thanks for the new thread. I was able to find it easily in a sea of stickies and Jans.

I think there is so much that we haven't heard yet. Can't wait to hear testimony from Amy and other people that Casey hung with.
Something tells me that the defense will make it even more bizarre.

[SavannahStar]

I just wonder why if the duct tape isn't a fact LE hasn't corrected NG, Greta and everyone else that is stating it as fact.


That question kinda makes me chuckle because it makes me immediately think of Nancy Grace started her show way back when, saying Laurean held a three-day barbecue over Maria Lauterbach's body buried in his backyard.....LE never corrected that, either. (Don't know if you are familiar with that case.) Sometimes the THs say things which are not true, but merely sensationalism. I'm not saying the duct tape is true or is not true, but I would prefer waiting for confirmation from LE.

(FYI and sorry for the O/T: Laurean had several bonfires in his backyard, NOT barbecues, over the course of several days. Not ONE "barbecue" over her body for a three-day duration. But hey that's what Nancy Grace claimed. I'm sure there are transcripts around. It was disgusting. All for ratings...what will make the public riled up and angry.)

IMO.

[bchand]

There are links showing the book at the crimescene and the book being read at the ALF. Many of us have the opinion it is the same book.

The "duct tape" has been reported by many of the media working this case, citing law enforcement as their source.

IMO, not quite the same.

and as Willow said, there has not been any refutation of the duct tape story. That is what makes me believe it's true.

[terri]

Please everyone, let's all calm down. This fighting and bickering often seems to happen when there is NO news to digest and discuss. New news this coming week I hope. C'yall later :seeya:

[shelbar53]

Can you say donations from the public. Movie deals , book deals, and the list goes on and on.

For a long time they were asking for and receiving gift cards to gas stations, grocery stores etc. Lee at one time was requesting money to be put into his pay pal account. they had donation jars set up all over the place, they were receiving money that way. alos they recevied several hundred thousand dollars from licensing personal photos. In addiction their attorney stated several months back they will no longer do interviews unless they are paid for them.

I know there was a hugh investigation into the monies being received esp with Lee asking on his website for money to put into his paypal account. One of the trust funds was closed but to my knowledge nothing of significance came from any of the investigations other then to let the anthonys know they must keep everything above board, the public is watching.

I dont see them receiving much money from the public in the form of donations anymore. I bet they sell the video/pictures from caylees private service...only time will tell if thats correct.

I think people are worried any money they send will go to casy's defense and most people dont want to support her defense.

I dont want to see the anthonys profit from this and become millionares, however I dont want to see them destitude either.

[NYGalPal]

Check it out NYGalPal, I said I volunteer at facilities for street folks..NOT Jails.
The books apparently come from a library...and the makeup and 'blow outs' were questions I asked...not statements I made.

**Just my opinion of course...**

Sorry, sent you a PM. Does the jail have a libary? It is different from prison.

If they gave free blow-outs in jail. I'd head there right now so I don't have to pay the $75 it costs me.

Mine too.

[bchand]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the ABC deal was the one that was paid to Larry Garrison?

IIRC Miami, Larry was paid just to get the interview with the Anthonys with NBC (Dateline?) (and whoever). That's what he claims his job was.

[SavannahStar]

Oh did he? Were you in there? I thought it was a secret hearing.


Back when the GJ took place we had long discussions about the fact that there IS no "defense" at a GJ. It is ALL prosecution witnesses. George testified; therefore he testified for the prosecution.

[NYGalPal]

IIRC it was Larry Garrison who profited from the videos without the A's knowledge. I believe it was something like $6500.00. How far would that go for 5 months without working, mortgage, house insurance, car payments, car insurance, utilities, need I go on? Where else was the money coming from?

How much did Larry King pay them?

[Katt2]

ITA..It is hard not to notice how much they want to cash in on Caylee and they can't muster up the energy to give her a decent burial.

:cursing:

In all fairness I just read this morning that the services being held up due to the defense and a second autopsy.


George Anthony says his family has not yet made funeral arrangements for Caylee. They are still waiting for Casey Anthony's defense team to wrap up their second autopsy.


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8187300&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[bchand]

Just seen this posted on websleuths. Very good comparasion of the lies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGKHxCr0WmE&feature=channel
Part 1 of 4.


In part 2, when the investigators are listing to george what was found in the car, and they said the doll. You can hear confusion in georges voice, "the doll?", because it was known that Caylee would not leave her mama doll ever. It made me shudder hearing him say that.
Anywho, good video.

Thanks brodysho. Bookmarking this one.

eta: Do you have a link for the other parts? N/M I see the other parts on the right.

[*MoonRider*]

How is it they are cashing in on Caylee right now?


I just searched the Orange County records and they still have a mortgage on their home. I would love to know how you pay a mortgage with no one working? Not to mention paying for attorneys, private investigators, lights, cable, water, phones, taxes, etc. There is money coming from somewhere. IMO

[hamebone]

For a long time they were asking for and receiving gift cards to gas stations, grocery stores etc. Lee at one time was requesting money to be put into his pay pal account. they had donation jars set up all over the place, they were receiving money that way. alos they recevied several hundred thousand dollars from licensing personal photos. In addiction their attorney stated several months back they will no longer do interviews unless they are paid for them.

I know there was a hugh investigation into the monies being received esp with Lee asking on his website for money to put into his paypal account. One of the trust funds was closed but to my knowledge nothing of significance came from any of the investigations other then to let the anthonys know they must keep everything above board, the public is watching.

I dont see them receiving much money from the public in the form of donations anymore. I bet they sell the video/pictures from caylees private service...only time will tell if thats correct.

I think people are worried any money they send will go to casy's defense and most people dont want to support her defense.

I dont want to see the anthonys profit from this and become millionares, however I dont want to see them destitude either.


I sure hope they dont film and sale her private service.

I believe in my heart Caylee is dead because she got caught in the crossfire between Cindy and Casey.

Enough is enough; they need to bury this baby and let her have some respect that her mother took away when she dumped her in those woods. I hope they do the right thing.

[NYGalPal]

Are all her remains back? I know they sent some to the FBI lab.

I read in the link above "they are waiting for the second autopsy the defense wants". It doesn't take that long.

[NYGalPal]

In all fairness I just read this morning that the services being held up due to the defense and a second autopsy.


George Anthony says his family has not yet made funeral arrangements for Caylee. They are still waiting for Casey Anthony's defense team to wrap up their second autopsy.


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8187300&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

I know. I just posted about this. My complaint is it doesn't take that long to do an autopsy. They could have made funeral arrangements in the mean time, but are waaaaaaaaaaaaay too busy thinking about themselves.

[Katt2]

I read in the link above "they are waiting for the second autopsy the defense wants". It doesn't take that long.

No it shouldn't take long but I think we need to remember that it has been the holidays and their experts have to come in from out of state. I am not making excuses, I am just stating what I think to be facts.

[BJames]

Thanks for responding Willow, maybe if Casey had been reading in her 'spare time' for the past year...she wouldn't be where she is right now.


Just my opinion of course...

[hamebone]

I read in the link above "they are waiting for the second autopsy the defense wants". It doesn't take that long.

Maybe the defense is waiting for the remains from the FBI lab. I dont know what the hold up is truth be told.

[SavannahStar]

How do you figure it is any of your business?


You took the words out of my mouth! Maybe some would prefer that they could NOT pay their mortgage, electric, water bills, attorneys fees, etc., that they would be totally destitute? :confused: I'm pleased they ARE able to stay in their home and pay their bills. I could care less where the money comes from....and it is their business, not mine.

[NYGalPal]

I sure hope they dont film and sale her private service.

I believe in my heart Caylee is dead because she got caught in the crossfire between Cindy and Casey.

Enough is enough; they need to bury this baby and let her have some respect that her mother took away when she dumped her in those woods. I hope they do the right thing.

Given their actions so far, I bet they will. This is why they demand no one have a cell phone, no back pack..etc.

They make my skin crawl daily.

:angry:

[shelbar53]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the ABC deal was the one that was paid to Larry Garrison?

dont remember if it was abc or cbs but the A's received 200,000 for the licensing of the photos. and garrison did receive 6 thousand something for "scheduling" an interview.

[NYGalPal]

Maybe the defense is waiting for the remains from the FBI lab. I dont know what the hold up is truth be told.

Ammunity perhaps?

[bchand]

You took the words out of my mouth! Maybe some would prefer that they could NOT pay their mortgage, electric, water bills, attorneys fees, etc., that they would be totally destitute? :confused: I'm pleased they ARE able to stay in their home and pay their bills. I could care less where the money comes from....and it is their business, not mine.

Easy solution. You and $MakesUCuter don't have to discuss it.

[hamebone]

Thanks for responding Willow, maybe if Casey had been reading in her 'spare time' for the past year...she wouldn't be where she is right now.


Just my opinion of course...


Yes, there was reports she was reading law books while in jail. I agree 100 percent, she should of been reading and getting a education before all this. What a waste she could of built a nice life for herself and Caylee.

[shelbar53]

I sure hope they dont film and sale her private service.

I believe in my heart Caylee is dead because she got caught in the crossfire between Cindy and Casey.

Enough is enough; they need to bury this baby and let her have some respect that her mother took away when she dumped her in those woods. I hope they do the right thing.

I agree, I hope they dont film it then sell it. I would be so totally disgusted with them. Like I said, time will tell. The a's are probably thinking, so what the world hates us as is, why not sell them and make tons of money, I wouldnt put it past them, their past behavior has been appalling to say the least.

[WillowInFlight]

Maybe the defense is waiting for the remains from the FBI lab. I dont know what the hold up is truth be told.

I thought the remains have already been turned over to the funeral home?

[NYGalPal]

No it shouldn't take long but I think we need to remember that it has been the holidays and their experts have to come in from out of state. I am not making excuses, I am just stating what I think to be facts.

True, you could be right. I just don't believe there isn't an ulterior motive behind the delay. You don't hear the grandparents demanding Caylee have a decent burial do you?

[marshmallow]

Maybe the defense is waiting for the remains from the FBI lab. I dont know what the hold up is truth be told.



"truth be told" any time those words are used in relation to this case and the Anthony family, it strikes me as very sadly funny.

Hamebone, not commenting in any way on you, your words, your mama or anything else...I like you just fine.. just those 3 words and the Anthonys... <sad shake of the head>

[shelbar53]

How do you figure it is any of your business?

I just figure they are asking for donations, I dont want to pay for them to stay at the ritz and order 100 dollar meals. so as long as they are mooching money from the public then I think its my business.

[canada]

Forgive me if this has been asked before:

1) Is Casey in protective custody where her contact is limited to other PC inmates?

2) If Casey does have contact with other inmates I wonder what the chances are of LE putting in a jail house informant. Do they use them in Florida???? I can just imagine Casey blabbering away...not admitting to anything...but inadvertently doing so by mixing up her lies.

[marshmallow]

They are not mooching of the public, therefor it is their private business. imo

we don't know if they are or if they aren't.

[mojito]

I thought the remains have already been turned over to the funeral home?



They have been...besides, everybody says there's really nothing to "autopsy" since it's only skeletal remains. Makes no sense why they can't "wrap it up" by now...

[NYGalPal]

You took the words out of my mouth! Maybe some would prefer that they could NOT pay their mortgage, electric, water bills, attorneys fees, etc., that they would be totally destitute? :confused: I'm pleased they ARE able to stay in their home and pay their bills. I could care less where the money comes from....and it is their business, not mine.

I'm sorry, does someone force you to come here? If you don't want to know where the money comes from then by all means it is your duty to remove yourself from this forum instead of sitting here for over 18 hrs a day telling us what we can and cannnot discuss.

[bchand]

Forgive me if this has been asked before:

1) Is Casey in protective custody where her contact is limited to other PC inmates?

2) If Casey does have contact with other inmates I wonder what the chances are of LE putting in a jail house informant. Do they use them in Florida???? I can just imagine Casey blabbering away...not admitting to anything...but inadvertently doing so by mixing up her lies.

Yes she is canada. (She sure has been known to be a blabber according to Rob Dick for one.)

[shelbar53]

They are not mooching of the public, therefor it is their private business. imo

tip jars asking for donations? same as mooching to me, lol

[Regina.Lampert]

They've also cashed in with photos and videos to ABC. Steff posted a whole bunch of photos of Caylee last night that have "exclusive property of ABC" stamped on them.

Yep, all of us on this from the beginning know these facts B. Others who have been here with us, for some reason want to ignore what has gone on before and are attempting to put lipstick on the pigs. God bless them in this effort, but it will not erase what has happened in the past. imo.

[NYGalPal]

Forgive me if this has been asked before:

1) Is Casey in protective custody where her contact is limited to other PC inmates?

2) If Casey does have contact with other inmates I wonder what the chances are of LE putting in a jail house informant. Do they use them in Florida???? I can just imagine Casey blabbering away...not admitting to anything...but inadvertently doing so by mixing up her lies.

She is in isolation. No contact with others.

[SavannahStar]

I agree, I hope they dont film it then sell it. I would be so totally disgusted with them. Like I said, time will tell. The a's are probably thinking, so what the world hates us as is, why not sell them and make tons of money, I wouldnt put it past them, their past behavior has been appalling to say the least.


I would be so totally disgusted if anyone came INto the memorial and filmed it and then sold it. Did that occur to you, that that may be the reason they do not want cameras, etc.? I think it's a good idea, a very good one. I hope the security at the memorial is very good. I would hate for some crazies to start acting weird and ruin Caylee's service. I worry about that. I remember the "protestors" out in front of the Anthonys. Many people detest George and Cindy; it only takes one nut to cause a real bad disturbance. Or worse. :sad:

[hamebone]

I agree, I hope they dont film it then sell it. I would be so totally disgusted with them. Like I said, time will tell. The a's are probably thinking, so what the world hates us as is, why not sell them and make tons of money, I wouldnt put it past them, their past behavior has been appalling to say the least.

You are right time will tell.

When I watched some of the tapes on NG the last few nights. It really hit home how much Cindy and Casey are alike.

Cindy asking Casey if she had a message for TonE and Casey answers by putting him down for not coming to see her. Never mind she lied to him from day one about everything. He is the bad guy in her eyes.

And Cindy going off on Jesse when he was the one guy ready to step up and be a father to Caylee. And Cindy ready to throw Amy under the bus, when she was the one who took her to Casey. Not to mention it was Casey who rob Amy blind.

So, I agree who knows what this group will do.

[SavannahStar]

I'm sorry, does someone force you to come here? If you don't want to know where the money comes from then by all means it is your duty to remove yourself from this forum instead of sitting here for over 18 hrs a day telling us what we can and cannnot discuss.

I gave my opinion on a post. Nowhere did I say it could not be discussed. Don't put words in my mouth please.

[NYGalPal]

we don't know if they are or if they aren't.

Aren't we part of the public? Yes Therefore it is our right to know what donations they are collecting.

[shelbar53]

I would be so totally disgusted if anyone came INto the memorial and filmed it and then sold it. Did that occur to you, that that may be the reason they do not want cameras, etc.? I think it's a good idea, a very good one. I hope the security at the memorial is very good. I would hate for some crazies to start acting weird and ruin Caylee's service. I worry about that. I remember the "protestors" out in front of the Anthonys. Many people detest George and Cindy; it only takes one nut to cause a real bad disturbance. Or worse. :sad:

I wasnt saying anyone would try and sneak pictures of the funeral, i was saying THE ANTHIONYS would probably stoop to something that low. that sounds like their behavior based on their past behavior.

[WillowInFlight]

Yep, all of us on this from the beginning know these facts B. Others who have been here with us, for some reason want to ignore what has gone on before and are attempting to put lipstick on the pigs. God bless them in this effort, but it will not erase what has happened in the past. imo.
Yep George and his tip jars in Publix parking lot. I wonder how that worked for him.

[shelbar53]

Where did you se a tip jar since Caylee was officially declared dead?

I am putting you on ignore, I have found nothing useful in any of your comments to help with figuring out clues. Just show me one post where you sited useful info or contributed anything to solving or figuring out this case, no wait nevermind, dont show me, your on ignore.

[SavannahStar]

I wasnt saying anyone would try and sneak pictures of the funeral, i was saying THE ANTHIONYS would probably stoop to something that low. that sounds like their behavior based on their past behavior.


I was giving my opinion of the possibility of wackos being there and filming, based on past behavior of wackos. Remember the lady who rooted through the Anthonys' garbage? And other worse ones......

[VII]

I know. I just posted about this. My complaint is it doesn't take that long to do an autopsy. They could have made funeral arrangements in the mean time, but are waaaaaaaaaaaaay too busy thinking about themselves.


Could be that Jose is delaying the 2nd autopsy by using the Holiday's as an excuse - Christmas and NY falling on Th/Fr ... etc...
Perhaps HE should be held accountable?

[SavannahStar]

I suppose they have a reason for allowing a public service. I guess there are enough caring and compassionate people out there who they feel should be included. If I were them, I would have a private service, and keep everything about it a secret.

Oh I absolutely agree. There is NO WAY I would have a public memorial if I were them. Screw the public. :thumbdown:

[*MoonRider*]

I just figure they are asking for donations, I dont want to pay for them to stay at the ritz and order 100 dollar meals. so as long as they are mooching money from the public then I think its my business.

You took the words right out of my mouth. Asking for donations made it the public's business. JMO

[happygert]

I wasnt saying anyone would try and sneak pictures of the funeral, i was saying THE ANTHIONYS would probably stoop to something that low. that sounds like their behavior based on their past behavior.

I wouldn't put it past the A's to sell pictures or videos to the highest bidder. They have already sold interviews, pictures, videos of Caylee. Not to mention the 2 million dollar lifetime deal. Just like Howard Stern did of Anna Nicole Smith's service.

[NYGalPal]

Could be that Jose is delaying the 2nd autopsy by using the Holiday's as an excuse - Christmas and NY falling on Th/Fr ... etc...
Perhaps HE should be held accountable?

Like I said "there is an ulterior motive", imo.

He should, but doubt that will happen. The Ant's should for sure. No aummnity.

[Barbara fl.]

I would be so totally disgusted if anyone came INto the memorial and filmed it and then sold it. Did that occur to you, that that may be the reason they do not want cameras, etc.? I think it's a good idea, a very good one. I hope the security at the memorial is very good. I would hate for some crazies to start acting weird and ruin Caylee's service. I worry about that. I remember the "protestors" out in front of the Anthonys. Many people detest George and Cindy; it only takes one nut to cause a real bad disturbance. Or worse. :sad:



Sharon Rocha and family did it the best way...they held a private ceramony and then held a public one...the public one in honor of Laci and Conner and for the people who prayed and helped in the search for her loved ones....

There is absolutely nothing wrong in having a public ceramony so that all can bid a farewell to Caylee properly , EVERYONE out here and from far away donated their time and efforts in trying to find Caylee so that some closure can be for the family (whethere they wanted it or not)...and the very least that they can do is to allow all these people who helped in the search to say goodbuy to Caylee (seeing as they never got a chance to say hello)....

For the famil not to want this is selfish to say the very least....IT is over...Caylee's body was found....no matter what the outcome of this horrific crime will be.....Caylee still comes first in everybody's eyes....There is no reason at all in this world for the Anthony's NOT to show their appreciation EVEN if they didn't appreciate what everyone has done for them.....JMOO

[happygert]

I sure hope they dont film and sale her private service.

I believe in my heart Caylee is dead because she got caught in the crossfire between Cindy and Casey.

Enough is enough; they need to bury this baby and let her have some respect that her mother took away when she dumped her in those woods. I hope they do the right thing.

Nothing the A's do would surprise me.. As far as filming and selling it that would NOT surprise me either.

[daHawg]

Nothing the A's do would surprise me.. As far as filming and selling it that would NOT surprise me either. Me neither and lets not forget that they wanted and would have (imo) set up the Memorial Fund to help pay for Caylee's funeral had it not been for the backlash of emails etc they (A's Attorney & The A's) received. Once they got wind of that they changed their mind otherwise they would be standing there with their hand out once again.

[VII]

Like I said "there is an ulterior motive", imo.

He should, but doubt that will happen. The Ant's should for sure. No aummnity.


yeah ...
the ulterior motive
is to use whatEVErrrr reason they can to delay findings in order to push the trial date back. Time is on the side of defense ... let time pass and interest will become LESS passionate = defendant's favor.
imo

I mean ...
go look at the Candle for Caylee link and see how many candles are lit today compared to what it was just a month or so ago.....

[AMS]

Just seen this posted on websleuths. Very good comparasion of the lies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGKHxCr0WmE&feature=channel
Part 1 of 4.


In part 2, when the investigators are listing to george what was found in the car, and they said the doll. You can hear confusion in georges voice, "the doll?", because it was known that Caylee would not leave her mama doll ever. It made me shudder hearing him say that.
Anywho, good video.

Thanks so much for the link. These are good to watch.

[Amy]

You took the words right out of my mouth. Asking for donations made it the public's business. JMO

I guess if I don't get called in to work, I'd better go spend some time on back threads. The last I read the other day, the article specifically said they are NOT asking for donations!.

[SavannahStar]

Sharon Rocha and family did it the best way...they held a private ceramony and then held a public one...the public one in honor of Laci and Conner and for the people who prayed and helped in the search for her loved ones....

There is absolutely nothing wrong in having a public ceramony so that all can bid a farewell to Caylee properly , EVERYONE out here and from far away donated their time and efforts in trying to find Caylee so that some closure can be for the family (whethere they wanted it or not)...and the very least that they can do is to allow all these people who helped in the search to say goodbuy to Caylee (seeing as they never got a chance to say hello)....

For the famil not to want this is selfish to say the very least....IT is over...Caylee's body was found....no matter what the outcome of this horrific crime will be.....Caylee still comes first in everybody's eyes....There is no reason at all in this world for the Anthony's NOT to show their appreciation EVEN if they didn't appreciate what everyone has done for them.....JMOO

I don't think it's that barbara....that they didn't appreciate what's done for them. I said "screw the public" because I just get really flipped out with the criticism of them. Some of it, IMO, very misplaced. There are so many posts about "they SHOULD have.....done this...." or "they SHOULDN'T have done that......." and you know the rest: they enabled her; if it weren't for their parenting, Caylee would be alive today; and on and on.

So at this point I just don't think the Anthonys owe the public anything. Few in the public understood them, or cared about them. It turned into a huge hate-fest. I think this is their own private grief, THEIR granddaughter, it should be private.

If there is a public memorial needed, I'm sure LP or Rev. Grund or any number of others could step up to the plate.

And bottom line....I'm afraid if the Anthonys had a public memorial, as I said, the "wackos" would turn out, and IMO, that's dangerous. There ARE people that literally hate them. :mad:

[bchand]

yeah ...
the ulterior motive
is to use whatEVErrrr reason they can to delay findings in order to push the trial date back. Time is on the side of defense ... let time pass and interest will become LESS passionate = defendant's favor.
imo

I mean ...
go look at the Candle for Caylee link and see how many candles are lit today compared to what it was just a month or so ago.....

True about waning interest VII, but I think it will pick up again as the trial begins. This story will be fascinating 25 yrs from now. Never saw anything like it.

[Barbara fl.]

I have yet to see a case such as this that got all this media attention...and wasn't able to say their good-by's......IF Cayle had been murdered by anyone other than CASEY.....I'm sure the Anthony's would want to thank the public for all their help in finding Caylee "AND" the killer....All the Anthony's are doing is showing that they are NOT happy that Caylee's body was found and somewhere in the back of their minds I feel that because Caylee's body was found that they are blaming the public for this whole ordeal....

Shifting the blame seems to run in this family.....they seem to hurt the people who cared....

Amy, Jesse and all of us out here....

All this to try and save their prescious darling of a daughter.....JMO....JMO

[Katt2]

I wouldn't put it past the A's to sell pictures or videos to the highest bidder. They have already sold interviews, pictures, videos of Caylee. Not to mention the 2 million dollar lifetime deal. Just like Howard Stern did of Anna Nicole Smith's service.

The Lifetime deal was publicly disputed by Lifetime. If you need a link I will find it.

[marshmallow]

Been off for a while--but, aren't they still going to have their private service and a public memorial? I guess, if it were me, and I could only have one service, I would go for the private service.

I hope they do have a memorial service. Across this country many people came to care about Caylee. People gave money, time, concern, prayers...all for Caylee. Many showed up to help TM search, others donated money and goods for the searchers, still more prayed for her safe recovery. Even after Cindy Anthony insulted and name called people still cared about Caylee. And when her remains were found more prayers went up for that sweet little girl and many tears were shed. People gave to charities in Caylee's name and also to worthy causes in her name. I think that the huge outpouring of concern and compassion for Caylee is a sign that human decency does still exist and that in her name many other children will benefit. To me a thank you from the Anthony family, in the form of a memorial service, would be a nice gesture. People may not care much for the Anthonys: Cindy, George, Lee, and especially Casey but for Caylee many did.
It warms my heart to know that complete strangers would care so much about a tiny child they'd never met.


as always, my opinion :)

[NYGalPal]

I guess if I don't get called in to work, I'd better go spend some time on back threads. The last I read the other day, the article specifically said they are NOT asking for donations!.

Given the many lies they have told. Want makes this "not asking for donations" a truthful statement? Cindy would have to go back to work otherwise.

[bluwaters]

I read in the link above "they are waiting for the second autopsy the defense wants". It doesn't take that long.
Good morning! :smile:

IMOO -
The remains have been released to the funeral home chosen by the family.

The remains are being stored there until the family decides how they want them handled.

The defense has the right to a second autopsy.

The second autopsy will not be done until the defense receives the requested discovery from the prosecution regarding the ME's autopsy.

The prosecution was given 14 days to turn over the discovery.

Once the defense receives the discovery, then the decision will be made whether of not to conduct their own autopsy.

If they choose to conduct a 2nd autopsy, the team will have to be assembled according to their schedules, etc.

Only when all of the conditions above have been met, will a funeral service be held and Caylee's remains buried.


It is also MHO that there will not be a second autopsy.
The defense does not want to risk finding something incriminating that the ME possibly missed!
However, it is a good legal move that Baez obtained the right to have a second autopsy, just in case something in the ME's report compels the defense to have another look.

As much as we, the public, want to see Caylee laid to rest, I doubt that anyone would want to see her remains exhumed during this trial or any that follow.
Hopefully, the defense request for the second autopsy will prevent a possible future exhumation of Caylee's remains.

I used the term "autopsy" although I realize that is not technically correct, per Dr. Perper.

[SavannahStar]

If I were the Anthony's, my dilemma would be whether or not the Anthony family would be present at a public ceremony for Caylee. That couldn't possibly be a requirement could it?

Now I wonder, how many people would actually show if the Anthony's weren't there to be publicly shamed and humiliated.

Wow.

INTERESTING post. INTERESTING questions!!!!!

[destiny1]

If I were the Anthony's, my dilemma would be whether or not the Anthony family would be present at a public ceremony for Caylee. That couldn't possibly be a requirement could it?

Now I wonder, how many people would actually show if the Anthony's weren't there to be publicly shamed and humiliated.

You know, as much as I think the anthonys have broken the law, etc, I have to agree with you.

It seems people in general, not all people, have this appetite for seeing others somehow brought down. Like when you see media characters who "made their career bringing so-and-so down" I personally don't get it.

[marshmallow]

True about waning interest VII, but I think it will pick up again as the trial begins. This story will be fascinating 25 yrs from now. Never saw anything like it.

I think time will lessen the pity for the people who lied too. Time will lessen any pity for poor misunderstood Casey also.

[SavannahStar]

Funny thing is that Jesse doesn't harbor hate for the Anthony's. He's a pretty upstanding and remarkable young man.

..and all of us out here. GMAB


Both the Grunds! Isn't that something?

Some of the things I've read that Rev. Grund wrote on his Myspace just had me in tears. He so demonstrated to me my personal theory that "undeserving compassion is the truest compassion." And Jesse also had me in tears on the few shows I saw him on. As has often been stated, Casey sure lost out when she lost Jesse and his family (or "threw them under the bus" to use a favorite phrase on here). To think of what might have been, and where Caylee would be now, is absolutely heartbreaking!

[happygert]

IIRC it was Larry Garrison who profited from the videos without the A's knowledge. I believe it was something like $6500.00. How far would that go for 5 months without working, mortgage, house insurance, car payments, car insurance, utilities, need I go on? Where else was the money coming from?


He was setting up the "Paid Interviews " did they not think he should get anything for his services? IMO They knew he was getting paid or should have known because they ( the Anthonys) were getting paid for them.( the interviews) IMO Cindy blew because she wanted all the money. $6,500 compared to $200,000 doesnt seem like a lot to me.Thats about 30%. Seems to me like what would be a normal fee.

Exactly. Takes a lot of money to pay for everything and not one of them been working since July 16th. Donations, Donations , Donations.
The public and money made off their granddaughter has been paying their bills. Not only one mortgage but 2. JMHO

[Barbara fl.]

I don't think it's that barbara....that they didn't appreciate what's done for them. I said "screw the public" because I just get really flipped out with the criticism of them. Some of it, IMO, very misplaced. There are so many posts about "they SHOULD have.....done this...." or "they SHOULDN'T have done that......." and you know the rest: they enabled her; if it weren't for their parenting, Caylee would be alive today; and on and on.

So at this point I just don't think the Anthonys owe the public anything. Few in the public understood them, or cared about them. It turned into a huge hate-fest. I think this is their own private grief, THEIR granddaughter, it should be private.

If there is a public memorial needed, I'm sure LP or Rev. Grund or any number of others could step up to the plate.

And bottom line....I'm afraid if the Anthonys had a public memorial, as I said, the "wackos" would turn out, and IMO, that's dangerous. There ARE people that literally hate them. :mad:


I fully agree about the wacko's that hung by their door and taunted them...I didn't approve of that for one minute.....but why blame everyone for what a few indiscriminate individuals did...There were millions of people out here praying everyday for the safe return of Caylee (even though it didn't look good)...there are people who sent money that they really didn't have to send....

Now is the time for them to put aside all the bad that had occured and thank everyone for what they did to help them.....

They never once said thank you to the MR, who in my eyes had the gut feeling that the bag he saw was something of importence, instaed they are trying to connect him to the murder.....thank Jesse who loved Caylee (more than her own mother)...Say your sorry to Amu that your daughter cleaned out her bank account...

The orange county police didn't ask for this to be brought upon them....alot of resources went to this case....a lot of hard work went to this case.....

And NOT one...not one...public thank you to anyone....I find that dispicable.....

[hamebone]

Funny thing is that Jesse doesn't harbor hate for the Anthony's. He's a pretty upstanding and remarkable young man.

..and all of us out here. GMAB

I agree, Jesse is a remarkable young man.

And the fact that Cindy pointed a finger of blame at him has caused some of the backlash toward her from the ones following this case.

[nc1948]

I wonder why Lee moved back home with his parents? I find that odd. It's not like he was in another city or state. He lived just a couple of blocks away. He could've moved in temporarily to help them out or whatever but to sell his home? Maybe he's tight on cash. Defense attornies don't come cheap.

I think it is just finances. He as well as no one else in the family has had a Regular job in 6 months. We would not have lasted that long without working. Remember at first bond hearing Cindy said they had no money to bail Casey out as they were living paycheck to paycheck. If he was buying the house (I don't know) Maybe mortgage company wants a payment?

Does this mean he and Mallory are no longer a couple???If so does this also mean Mallory and her Mother are no longer on the board of the CayleeMarieAnthony Foundation as officers?

[VII]

You know, as much as I think the anthonys have broken the law, etc, I have to agree with you.

It seems people in general, not all people, have this appetite for seeing others somehow brought down. Like when you see media characters who "made their career bringing so-and-so down" I personally don't get it.

"People love it when you lose, they love dirty LAUNDryyyyyy"

[AMS]

Nice. The same public that gave their time and energy searching for Caylee Anthony in the hot Florida sun this summer? That public? What a nasty sentiment, SS. imo. :punch:

Yep Regina, that would be the same public who donated to TES in Caylee's name, who ordered pizza and water to be delivered to the searchers, who lit candle after candle praying for Caylee. I'm with you. "Screw the public" was a nasty sentiment. IMO.

[shellzbi]

Yep, all of us on this from the beginning know these facts B. Others who have been here with us, for some reason want to ignore what has gone on before and are attempting to put lipstick on the pigs. God bless them in this effort, but it will not erase what has happened in the past. imo.]]


Morning, you are so right. I like that "Put Lipstick On The Pigs".

These people are just, nothing that I have ever come across in my 57 years on this earth.

I will never forget the way this family behaved early in this case.

[Mimi428]

C: Again, I'm begging- no- demanding- all of you that have already made up your minds about Casey's guilt, give those of us who are not there yet, the same respect that you demand of us.




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I'm not even half finished with my first cup of coffee, but if the rest of the thread is half as entertaining as the above, my ribs will be hurting within a couple of hours.

I swear I'm not trying to laugh AT you, Jan. I hope there will be another time when you will look back on that statement in a different frame of mind.

For some reason, I can hear some little bitty kid somewhere hollaring "you're not the boss of MEEEEEEE".

And I'm not the boss of anyone. But for the sake of keeping the board open I will ask any & everyone to try to remember that once the board gets to sniping at one another & not attempting some discussion of the case, the moderator loses patience with all of us.

Back on topic - I read the WFTV link about PI#1 videotaping PI#2 videotaping some area & talking on the phone & Lenny talking to #1 and/or #2 about who is taping what & when & why & talking to whom - & all I can think of is that the whole bunch of them are like jackals. I wish I had just a little measure of confidence that any of them outside of LE were in it for anything besides "fame & fortune".

I leave TES out of the above group.

I know Lenny & the rest of them have expenses they need to cover, but it sure does seem sometimes as if there are a whole lot of folks involved primarily, if not solely, for the potential they see to cash in on it.

JMO

[*MoonRider*]

Where did you se a tip jar since Caylee was officially declared dead?

You are ABSOLUTELY correct. They are too busy hiring lawyers and seeking immunity. Hmmm. JMO

[destiny1]

I think time will lessen the pity for the people who lied too. Time will lessen any pity for poor misunderstood Casey also.

"Time heals all wounds" just ain't so.

The minute a rating-boosting production by one of the THs is completed to rehash the case with some kind of catchy 'upcoming trial of PPOFCA" or whatever they're calling her, people will get angry again about that little girl being killed. Child killings NEVER really get out of our heads when we feel that THE MURDERED TWO YEAR OLD has NOT RECEIVED JUSTICE.

[OneUp]

If they have donations from the public, why would that be your concern? Are they paid upfront for movie and book deals? Can you imagine how they would feel if they had to finance the rest of their lives from the death of their granddaughter possibly at the hands of their daughter? They didn't have a part in Caylee's death.

Why would they need to finance the rest of their lives on Caylee's demise? Don't you think they are as capable of returning to work and supporting themselves as anyone else who lost a child is?...or at least as capable of working as they were before this crime?
It WOULD definitely be nice if every family that lost a child had the luxury of time to grieve, and some sort of financial support to allow them to do so, no doubt about that. Such a thing would have been invaluable to me, but like most people, I returned to work far before my soul was healed and worked to support myself and my daughter.
Don't MOST families of the missing have to return to work sooner rather than later?
I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but gosh! These people aren't any more deserving of support and time off than any other family IMO.....maybe less if it comes to light that they in ANY way impeded this investigation.
FWIW, I agree that they didn't hurt Caylee, or choose anything with the knowledge/intent that harm would come to her...I'm sure it is terrible to second guess all the decisions they DID make! I STILL regret not changing my own alarm codes and locks sooner, and I have had nine years to regret it.
JMO.

[NYGalPal]

AHHHH, but the Ants did not want the public to look for a deceased Caylee. They demanded the public get off their azz and look only for a live caylee.


hammer= For the Ants!

No wonder the public got made at them. The audacity. IMO, that meant they knew early on.

[bluwaters]

Yes, there was reports she was reading law books while in jail. I agree 100 percent, she should of been reading and getting a education before all this. What a waste she could of built a nice life for herself and Caylee.

ITA!
Yes, the jail does have a library and maintains a law library for the prisoners' use.

It is so tragic that Casey took the road she chose. She could have had it all. She is attractive (to those who don't know what she has done), bright, and personable. Casey could have had a really great career. The world is full of sociopaths. Most of them do not kill and many do learn to adapt to the world around them. It is possible for a sociopath to live a productive and fulfilling life.

Imagine if Casey had invested the energy she put into her lies and manipulations into school and/or work!

[aubrey04]

The duct tape issue has been "widely" reported by the news sources. It never says "alleged duct tape". I believe that at this point.

The book is subjective and we won't know until trial if that was indeed her book.

You're right. ITA.

The duct tape has been widely reported by NUMEROUS media sources. There either was duct tape on her body or there wasn't.. No matter what the media reports on the matter, it will not change the evidence; therefore, whomever said it was "inaccurate" is "inaccurate" themselves. :rolleyes:

I think the media has gotten a lot of this case right, so I am about 99% certain that duct tape was there..

[shellzbi]

I wouldn't put it past the A's to sell pictures or videos to the highest bidder. They have already sold interviews, pictures, videos of Caylee. Not to mention the 2 million dollar lifetime deal. Just like Howard Stern did of Anna Nicole Smith's service.


I'm sure they are out shopping as we speak. IMO.

[happygert]

They've also cashed in with photos and videos to ABC. Steff posted a whole bunch of photos of Caylee last night that have "exclusive property of ABC" stamped on them.

Exactly! IMO they used Caylee for there own personal gain .

[marshmallow]

If I were the Anthony's, my dilemma would be whether or not the Anthony family would be present at a public ceremony for Caylee. That couldn't possibly be a requirement could it?

Now I wonder, how many people would actually show if the Anthony's weren't there to be publicly shamed and humiliated.

I think many would go, to most it isn't about the Anthonys...it is/was about Caylee.


Look how many showed up to search for her. God bless them all for caring enough for Caylee, who they'd never met, to take on the task of searching for her even if it meant her body might be found with no life left in it.. God bless them all.

[daHawg]

I think it is just finances. He as well as no one else in the family has had a Regular job in 6 months. We would not have lasted that long without working. Remember at first bond hearing Cindy said they had no money to bail Casey out as they were living paycheck to paycheck. If he was buying the house (I don't know) Maybe mortgage company wants a payment?

Does this mean he and Mallory are no longer a couple???If so does this also mean Mallory and her Mother are no longer on the board of the CayleeMarieAnthony Foundation as officers?
Lee's own lawyer stated that Lee was using the Help Find Caylee funds for his search and investigation. Now that Caylee has been found I guess he can no longer use those funds in the guise of his investigation. I still haven't seen anything that shows where are how the $$ were spent like Lee's attorney says is available. Not that I would believe their accounting practices anyways.

[SavannahStar]

"Time heals all wounds" just ain't so.

The minute a rating-boosting production by one of the THs is completed to rehash the case with some kind of catchy 'upcoming trial of PPOFCA" or whatever they're calling her, people will get angry again about that little girl being killed. Child killings NEVER really get out of our heads when we feel that THE MURDERED TWO YEAR OLD has NOT RECEIVED JUSTICE.


How has she not received justice? Casey is in jail, charged with her murder. For all intents and purposes, she's as well as convicted, IMO. What more do you want? When Casey is convicted and sentenced, will you feel Caylee has received justice? I must be missing something here.......

[Barbara fl.]

If I were the Anthony's, my dilemma would be whether or not the Anthony family would be present at a public ceremony for Caylee. That couldn't possibly be a requirement could it?

Now I wonder, how many people would actually show if the Anthony's weren't there to be publicly shamed and humiliated.


I fail to believe that...As a human race, I believe that all that would be put aside and that everyone would conduct themselves properly out of respect for Caylee.....

As much as Scott Peterson and the Peterson's were hated...I necer saw one person get up and mention that at all at the "public ceramony" for Laci and Conner.....I doubt it very much that anyone would be thinking along those lines at a memorial for little Caylee....I have mopre faith then that in our society.....JMOO

[destiny1]

Where did you se a tip jar since Caylee was officially declared dead?


You know what? If they didn't believe that it really was Casey that killed Caylee, they would still be asking people for tips on whatever they knew to get real justice. this is just my opinion, though.

[destiny1]

How has she not received justice? Casey is in jail, charged with her murder. For all intents and purposes, she's as well as convicted, IMO. What more do you want? When Casey is convicted and sentenced, will you feel Caylee has received justice? I must be missing something here.......


actually what I am speaking of is BEFORE casey's trial, however long that may be, Until casey or whoever did this is convicted and put in their box until they cease to breathe, Caylee has not received full justice.

[OneUp]

Do you have proof otherwise??I'd have to tend to agree with you...though I may have stated it more diplomatically. The Anthony family is supporting themselves somehow with no/minimal means of income. AFAIK, the only income they've had since this terrible thing began is George's meager security guard salary...maybe also some funds for paid leave from Cindy's work? I HOPE she had that help, and I would think she would from a good employer. That said, they were in financial difficulties before July according to Cindy and the emails exchanged in/with her faimly, so one would guess money would now be tighter than ever unless they were given donations or made money in "licensing fee's" etc.

As long as they're using funds donated in the way in which the givers intented...I am not concerned. It's nice of people to help out! I was lucky enough to have help and I hope anyone suffering the murder of a loved one would too!
I can't imagine what they will do if they aren't capable of returning to work...I suppose they'll manage as I stated in my post before...most families do in the end.
JMO.

[kitty1182]

I fail to believe that...As a human race, I believe that all that would be put aside and that everyone would conduct themselves properly out of respect for Caylee.....

As much as Scott Peterson and the Peterson's were hated...I necer saw one person get up and mention that at all at the "public ceramony" for Laci and Conner.....I doubt it very much that anyone would be thinking along those lines at a memorial for little Caylee....I have mopre faith then that in our society.....JMOO


I agree...

[hamebone]

Why would they need to finance the rest of their lives on Caylee's demise? Don't you think they are as capable of returning to work and supporting themselves as anyone else who lost a child is?...or at least as capable of working as they were before this crime?
It WOULD definitely be nice if every family that lost a child had the luxury of time to grieve, and some sort of financial support to allow them to do so, no doubt about that. Such a thing would have been invaluable to me, but like most people, I returned to work far before my soul was healed and worked to support myself and my daughter.
Don't MOST families of the missing have to return to work sooner rather than later?
I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but gosh! These people aren't any more deserving of support and time off than any other family IMO.....maybe less if it comes to light that they in ANY way impeded this investigation.
FWIW, I agree that they didn't hurt Caylee, or choose anything with the knowledge/intent that harm would come to her...I'm sure it is terrible to second guess all the decisions they DID make! I STILL regret not changing my own alarm codes and locks sooner, and I have had nine years to regret it.
JMO.

I am sorry for what you have been through.

I agree, with much of what you wrote. But this case is so public I wonder if Cindy and George even had jobs to go back to?

[september]

I just searched the Orange County records and they still have a mortgage on their home. I would love to know how you pay a mortgage with no one working? Not to mention paying for attorneys, private investigators, lights, cable, water, phones, taxes, etc. There is money coming from somewhere. IMO

It has been my impression that all the attorneys with the exception of Biaz has stated they are working "pro bono". Biaz incists it's an inappropriate question and won't answer. I take pro bono as meaning I get a share of the book and movie deals that will without a doubt be on the table sometime in the future.

[ellegna]

I know in the last several days plenty of posts referenced "duct tape over her mouth" and that it was Caylee's book found at the site. Were you thinking of those? Yes, inaccurate due to being unconfirmed.

Before the remains were identified as Caylee's, the media was already reporting duct tape was on the skull.

Eyewitness News has learned that duct tape was still stuck to a yet-unidentified young child’s mouth when crews found the remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

Dr. Baden told Eyewitness News the duct tape could not only have preserved some of the evidence because it’s waterproof, but also could contain evidence such as fingerprints on the sticky side of the tape.

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/duct-tape-found-stuck-to-mouth-of-childs-remains/

When questioned at the presser about the duct tape, Dr G declined to comment. If duct tape was not found on the skull or just a rumor started by the media, why didn't Dr G refute it right then and there?

If you don't want to believe the existence of the duct tape until it is confirmed is your right and prerogative however is it necessary or fair to criticize, ridicule or accuse posters of inaccuracies for believing it does based on what the media reported?

[*MoonRider*]

I fully agree about the wacko's that hung by their door and taunted them...I didn't approve of that for one minute.....but why blame everyone for what a few indiscriminate individuals did...There were millions of people out here praying everyday for the safe return of Caylee (even though it didn't look good)...there are people who sent money that they really didn't have to send....

Now is the time for them to put aside all the bad that had occured and thank everyone for what they did to help them.....

They never once said thank you to the MR, who in my eyes had the gut feeling that the bag he saw was something of importence, instaed they are trying to connect him to the murder.....thank Jesse who loved Caylee (more than her own mother)...Say your sorry to Amu that your daughter cleaned out her bank account...

The orange county police didn't ask for this to be brought upon them....alot of resources went to this case....a lot of hard work went to this case.....

And NOT one...not one...public thank you to anyone....I find that dispicable.....
Bolded by me. As I have previously posted I am thankful for the protesters because if it weren't for them we would never know that Casey knew how to dial 911. I wouldn't hold my breath for a thank you from any of them. I think the new blame game is about to begin. JMO

[bchand]

Lee's own lawyer stated that Lee was using the Help Find Caylee funds for his search and investigation. Now that Caylee has been found I guess he can no longer use those funds in the guise of his investigation. I still haven't seen anything that shows where are how the $$ were spent like Lee's attorney says is available. Not that I would believe their accounting practices anyways.


That's the point isn't it? Because of their own actions, none of them are any longer credible.

[Barbara fl.]

You know what? If they didn't believe that it really was Casey that killed Caylee, they would still be asking people for tips on whatever they knew to get real justice. this is just my opinion, though.


You are so right....

[destiny1]

I fully agree about the wacko's that hung by their door and taunted them...I didn't approve of that for one minute.....but why blame everyone for what a few indiscriminate individuals did...There were millions of people out here praying everyday for the safe return of Caylee (even though it didn't look good)...there are people who sent money that they really didn't have to send....

Now is the time for them to put aside all the bad that had occured and thank everyone for what they did to help them.....

They never once said thank you to the MR, who in my eyes had the gut feeling that the bag he saw was something of importence, instaed they are trying to connect him to the murder.....thank Jesse who loved Caylee (more than her own mother)...Say your sorry to Amu that your daughter cleaned out her bank account...

The orange county police didn't ask for this to be brought upon them....alot of resources went to this case....a lot of hard work went to this case.....

And NOT one...not one...public thank you to anyone....I find that dispicable.....


Sadly, our fellow humans that ould do that are numerous. It is human nature to be almost, if not truly bloodthirsty.

I believe the Anthonys liek all of us have an obligation to follow the law, and that it is PROBABLE that they did not. I also KNOWW that it is not up to any of us what is done about whatever they did or didn't do. we all have opinions.

I try to keep my taste for vengeance down to people who actually go around killing people. In this case IMO CASEY.

[bluwaters]

If I were the Anthony's, my dilemma would be whether or not the Anthony family would be present at a public ceremony for Caylee. That couldn't possibly be a requirement could it?

Now I wonder, how many people would actually show if the Anthony's weren't there to be publicly shamed and humiliated.

I would think that the Anthony's would not attend a public memorial.
They will have already had their private service.
Caylee's remains will not, I hope, be at the public memorial.
The presence of the Anthony's would not be required in any way and would, as usual, take the focus off of Caylee and put it back on the Anthony's.

jmho

[nc1948]

Good morning Regina. Don't you think writing Casey off would be giving her the same scenario?

I am repulsed by both mother and daughter and I doubt I'll ever change that opinion. However, I do believe they are both psychotic and plenty of people hold down jobs for me to listen to the Cindy squad go on about her nursing job. She just had more energy than Casey and DRIVE TO CONTROL IMO.

They need to find a way to co-exist with some peace and be able to visit Casey behind bars AT TIMES THEY CHOOSE TO within the guidelines of the corrections policies.

JMO :crying:

My thoughts. They could visit Casey if she would allow and not discuss the case. Everyone in jail is recorded and still have visitors. They just do not discuss the on going charges. You discuss what are you doing, I miss you, are you okay, is there anything you need me to do,(any bills you need paid, anyone you want me to contact) Prisioners have visitors everytime there is visitation and most prisioners in jail are awaiting trial.

I do not think this has a thing to do with George and Cindy, it is Casey showing her Mother that she is in control and she refuses to see them.

[SavannahStar]

actually what I am speaking of is BEFORE casey's trial, however long that may be, Until casey or whoever did this is convicted and put in their box until they cease to breathe, Caylee has not received full justice.


Well like I said, she is as good as convicted, to me. Caylee's body has been found, the wheels of justice are turning, so that means to me she is well on her way to "receiving full justice." But I don't even like that phrase to tell you the truth. When used on boards it simply means the perp who killed the victim is convicted and sentenced. I think "justice for Caylee" means so much more than that. Up to and including let the grandparents grieve in peace and somehow go on with their lives, shattered as they are. I believe Caylee would want that. No hatred toward anyone. Even her mother, who the judicial system will take care of just fine....as well as our "higher power", whoever you perceive him to be.

IMO.

[Mairi II]

I remember the bludgeoning Sharon Rocha received for "profiting from Lacy & Connor's deaths" when she wrote her book. I for one was very glad she did. It was poignant, humble, inimate, gracious and every paragraph was punctuated with obvious love for her daughter and grandson. Lovely book. Personally, I hope Cindy does write a book and just maybe I'll come to understand and even empathize with her journey.

[trich]

Yep Regina, that would be the same public who donated to TES in Caylee's name, who ordered pizza and water to be delivered to the searchers, who lit candle after candle praying for Caylee. I'm with you. "Screw the public" was a nasty sentiment. IMO.

I agree...it is a sad state of affairs when some conveniently forget all the good and prefer to keep talking about the bad.

So many people gave their time, their money and their prayers for Caylee more then her family ever did ...that is what should be on the fore front of everyone's mind. IMO

[nc1948]

Maybe Lee thinks he is going to spend some time in the pokey,and wanted to stay with mama and papa for a little while.

Wonder if they will bring out the blow up bed so he can sleep in their room like Casey did.

[aubrey04]

Before the remains were identified as Caylee's, the media was already reporting duct tape was on the skull.

Eyewitness News has learned that duct tape was still stuck to a yet-unidentified young child’s mouth when crews found the remains less than a half-mile from the Anthony home.

Dr. Baden told Eyewitness News the duct tape could not only have preserved some of the evidence because it’s waterproof, but also could contain evidence such as fingerprints on the sticky side of the tape.

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/duct-tape-found-stuck-to-mouth-of-childs-remains/

When questioned at the presser about the duct tape, Dr G declined to comment. If duct tape was not found on the skull or just a rumor started by the media, why didn't Dr G refute it right then and there?

If you don't want to believe the existence of the duct tape until it is confirmed is your right and prerogative however is it necessary or fair to criticize, ridicule or accuse posters of inaccuracies for believing it does based on what the media reported?

ITA. The duct tape has been reported on since the news first broke. I have found that when the media "jumps on" something that they later find inaccurate, they correct themselves for the most part as they still want to be deemed credible or they just drop the matter and hope people forget about it.

But the duct tape aspect it STILL being reported on and Dr. Jan would not comment on it, so that leads me to believe it is true.

It doesn't matter whether a message board poster deems it "inaccurate" since it hasn't been confirmed by LE. :rolleyes:

The duct tape was either there or not there... So, nothing the media or LE will change what's accurate or "inaccurate" when it comes to what evidence has been found in this case.

[Mairi II]

Wonder if they will bring out the blow up bed so he can sleep in their room like Casey did.

Hehehehehe.

[happygert]

Sharon Rocha and family did it the best way...they held a private ceramony and then held a public one...the public one in honor of Laci and Conner and for the people who prayed and helped in the search for her loved ones....

There is absolutely nothing wrong in having a public ceramony so that all can bid a farewell to Caylee properly , EVERYONE out here and from far away donated their time and efforts in trying to find Caylee so that some closure can be for the family (whethere they wanted it or not)...and the very least that they can do is to allow all these people who helped in the search to say goodbuy to Caylee (seeing as they never got a chance to say hello)....

For the famil not to want this is selfish to say the very least....IT is over...Caylee's body was found....no matter what the outcome of this horrific crime will be.....Caylee still comes first in everybody's eyes....There is no reason at all in this world for the Anthony's NOT to show their appreciation EVEN if they didn't appreciate what everyone has done for them.....JMOO

Couldn't have said it better.. :thumbsup:

[destiny1]

Well like I said, she is as good as convicted, to me. Caylee's body has been found, the wheels of justice are turning, so that means to me she is well on her way to "receiving full justice." But I don't even like that phrase to tell you the truth. When used on boards it simply means the perp who killed the victim is convicted and sentenced. I think "justice for Caylee" means so much more than that. Up to and including let the grandparents grieve in peace and somehow go on with their lives, shattered as they are. I believe Caylee would want that. No hatred toward anyone. Even her mother, who the judicial system will take care of just fine....as well as our "higher power", whoever you perceive him to be.

IMO.
I agree with you. The Anthonys and all who actually KNEW Caylee should be allowed to grieve in peace.

Casey isn't convicted YET, and until she is, "or zanny is found and convicted" or mysterious aliens are found and convicted, in this land of laws, she still hasnt received justice.

Now as for my higher power: GOD will get justice. Been there, done that.

[Katt2]

[/COLOR]
When questioned at the presser about the duct tape, Dr G declined to comment. If duct tape was not found on the skull or just a rumor started by the media, why didn't Dr G refute it right then and there?

If you don't want to believe the existence of the duct tape until it is confirmed is your right and prerogative however is it necessary or fair to criticize, ridicule or accuse posters of inaccuracies for believing it does based on what the media reported?

~~~snipped~~~

I don't know what to believe about the duct tape at this point. But Dr. G. would not comment on any aspect of the forensics as the sheriff's office would not. It is pretty much protocol to preserve the integrity of the case.

[aubrey04]

actually what I am speaking of is BEFORE casey's trial, however long that may be, Until casey or whoever did this is convicted and put in their box until they cease to breathe, Caylee has not received full justice.

That reminds me of the quote a poster on here has. It was taken from the Oklahoma City Bombing Memorial..

4-19-95

We search for the truth.

We seek justice.

The courts require it.

The victims cry for it.

GOD demands it!

http://www.ourfamilyadventure.com/road_trip/tucumcari_new_mexico_through_texas_panhandle_to_ok lahoma_city_bombing_memorial.html

beautiful, imo. :wub:

[VII]

IMO
Having to delay services for reports from initial autopsies, waiting on a 2nd and etc ... would have to be tortuous....
If I were the A's, I'd be on the phone rattling cages to get this crap together so I could put my Granddaughter to rest.
I don't see how an "ulterior motive delay" (as suggested) would benefit the grandparents....

[Regina.Lampert]

I think it's a pretty nasty sentiment that they should "all be locked up". And Lord knows, I've read that enough on here. :punch:

Poster's write things like that because it is a fact that all of the anthonys apparently have a legal exposure, thus all the talk of immunity and charges BY THEIR OWN ATTORNIES.

Quite different from what you posted about a public that has offered their time, effort, money and concern for Caylee. imo.

[nc1948]

You kinda sound angry, there, friend. I am sorry I did not see your response. I went to bed. I also apologize for not being quick on the draw with the names. Age, you know. Also, please forgive me for using the word "they". I meant to say Lee and George and Cindy.

I posted yesterday begging folks that already have their minds up that Casey is guilty of murder, to lighten up on us folks that are still not so sure that is the case. We are tired of getting beaten up on these boards for holding out to be sure. Guess I need to beg some more.

Did I fix that sufficiently for ya?

January, I so totally disagree with you. I completely believe Casey did it. BUT i have never dissed anyone that does not agree with me. This is a message board and it is here for us all to express our opinions. I do not remember you being ugly to anyone when you disagree. Neither of our opinions make a difference in the long run, the jury will decide. But I do love to express my opinion and read everyone elses.

Keep posting what you believe, I for one will respect it even when I don't agree. Hang in there.

[kOOkie1]

Wonder if they will bring out the blow up bed so he can sleep in their room like Casey did.

haha..Im sure they will tuck him in so they can hear him sleep..woww i hope they remember what he is wearing too:blush:

[hamebone]

Well like I said, she is as good as convicted, to me. Caylee's body has been found, the wheels of justice are turning, so that means to me she is well on her way to "receiving full justice." But I don't even like that phrase to tell you the truth. When used on boards it simply means the perp who killed the victim is convicted and sentenced. I think "justice for Caylee" means so much more than that. Up to and including let the grandparents grieve in peace and somehow go on with their lives, shattered as they are. I believe Caylee would want that. No hatred toward anyone. Even her mother, who the judicial system will take care of just fine....as well as our "higher power", whoever you perceive him to be.

IMO.

I think your post is gracious SS.


I agree, but would add Caylee's justice also would be her family telling the truth. Maybe they have, maybe not.....I dont know. They all need to own this and I agree its a bitter pill to swallow. I'm not saying they all killed Caylee; only Casey is responsible for that. But they need to stop pointing fingers and own what their daughter has done. They know the truth, IMO.

[OneUp]

>>>SNIPPED<<<

And bottom line....I'm afraid if the Anthonys had a public memorial, as I said, the "wackos" would turn out, and IMO, that's dangerous. There ARE people that literally hate them. :mad:ITA, there are alot of "wacko's" out there. I see no reason for the Anthony's to put themselves at risk OR for Casey to put the decent fellows serving the public as LEO's at risk by having her worthless hide hauled to any memorial!
I'd advise the A's to have their private ceremony, and oversee the arrangements for the public one but not attend. I think they will run the risk of being targeted by ahandful of nuts looking to act up....and probably also targeted by some more scammers looking to take advantage of this situation! Of course, I can't see them taking advice like that...and LORD knows they sure wouldn't be taking advice from my MB posts! LOL!
...as for those who hate the Anthony's...I have seen hate for them, and I'd begin with their own daughter. Such hate she must have to have harmed Caylee and put so many people through the suffering and stress of the past months. Now SHE is a truely hateful person IMO.

[nc1948]

Glad you have "IMO" in your siggy, cc, because we have no proof of that. I really haven't seen any indication at all that they have plenty of money......

There lights have not been cut off, their cars have not been repossessed, they still have gas for cars, they still are eating. No one has worked in 6 months and at first bond hearing Cindy said they had no money. There is some money coming in from somewhere. Notice I did not say plenty of money, but definitely enough to pay bills.

[bluwaters]

Where did you se a tip jar since Caylee was officially declared dead?

Not a tip jar, but apparently the Trust Fund is still open and accepting donations:

http://helpfindcaylee.usualbeings.com/help.html

All funds donated to the trust fund will go directly towards funding the efforts in finding Caylee. Funds are currently being used to pay for fliers, t-shirts, water for volunteers, etc. Once Caylee is brought home all remaining funds will be donated to charities that help the families of missing children. The family does not benefit financially from any donations made to the trust fund, and it is being administered by a third party (Jody A. Parker). If you are interested in donating you may make a deposit at any Wachovia Bank in the Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony Trust Account:
Make the check or money order payable to "Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony". Any questions or request for contribution deposits may be directed to Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker.


http://helpfindcaylee.usualbeings.com/images/September%2025th%20Trust%20Agreement%20(2)(2).pdf

The Trust Fund Agreement still states in paragraph 2. Purposes that the funds will be used for burial expenses and administration of Caylee's estate should she be deceased.

[Barbara fl.]

IMO
Having to delay services for reports from initial autopsies, waiting on a 2nd and etc ... would have to be tortuous....
If I were the A's, I'd be on the phone rattling cages to get this crap together so I could put my Granddaughter to rest.
I don't see how an "ulterior motive delay" (as suggested) would benefit the grandparents....


I remember when my husband passed away...the funeral home couldn't handle it for a few days...It bothered me to no end to think of my husband in a hospital slab...I wanted him to be put to rest...I kept calling and calling, I couldn't sleep...I do not know how they are dealing with this, it would be killing me.....

In my opinion, they are not going to find anything of value to this case.......why not just put this part of it to an end.....JMO....

[BJames]

Here are 4 UTube videos you may find quite powerful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGKHxCr0WmE&feature=channel

Many thanks for the links Swarovski, I have attempted to watch them a couple of times now...and I just can't do it.
Somewhere when the first one starts with the music I have alternating feelings of complete sadness...and then deep anger. It hasn't really changed for me in the past 6 months...if anything these feelings are stronger...maybe because the 'story' has become more clear to me.
Sometimes I even feel the sadness and the anger together...for a 'family' that will probably never know 'happiness' again..if they ever truly did. And for a baby who never asked to come into this world...and those whom she should have been able to count on..that let her down.


Just my opinion of course...

[BANJO GRANNY]

IIRC, and someone will correct me if I am wrong. The LE said they would not question the Ants until after the funeral. Sounds like a good reason why the Ants are not in a big hurry for a burial to me anyway.

I agree 100% and I also believe they are holding out for the dollars from the highest bidder on a deal for pictures and video of the services. IMOO:cursing: It is all aboout saving their own azzes from what they have done, IMO IF they have not done anything wrong WHY would they want immunity. I wish Caylee's real dad if he is alive and knows he is her dad would come forward and take her remains and give her the proper burial she deserves, where none of the Ants would be able to have anything to do with it, or to make a dollar off of it. The more I hear and see these people and the way they act, makes me sick.
Caylee deserved so much more of a life than what she had. I hope Casey rots in jail and the rest of the Ants with her side by side. At one time I felt sorry for The Ants. but after watching them a few days and how they was doing, all I feel for them now is hate and I know that hate is a strong word, but I just can not feel any sorrow for them what so ever.


:rose:FOR BABY CAYLEE
REST IN PEACE SWEETIE, THERE WILL BE JUCTICE FOR YOU SOON

[kitty1182]

Here are 4 UTube videos you may find quite powerful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGKHxCr0WmE&feature=channel



Wow. Just wow....This was put together so well..Number 4 is a real tear jerker...

[september]

I don't get what the big concern is over how the A's are surviving after the death of their granddaughter and their daughter charged with her murder? Do you punish the parents for this? Would you be able to continue working every day if you found yourself in this situation? The A's may have not always been totally upfront about some things but would you feel better if they were living at the Salvation Army?

For me Miami the concern is they are living off blood money and I think that is just plain wrong.

I also think that going back to work would be the best thing they could do for themselves. A normal routine would bring some structure back into their lives. IMO

[bchand]

Found this for Amy, who has been away for a bit.

GRIEVING FOR CAYLEE

Eyewitness News learned Tuesday that Caylee's remains have now been released to a funeral home to await her memorial service.

The news came as lawyers for Caylee's family reversed course and said today they will not seek donations to help bury the murdered child.

Lee Anthony's attorney, Thom Luka, said people wanted to do more so the Anthonys were in the process of setting up a trust fund to accept donations for Caylee's funeral.

“The original idea was that this fund was going to be set up so that people who wanted to dedicate money for flowers or whatever for a memorial for Caylee, they could do it at a central point,” said Luka.

Eyewitness news reported the trust fund on Monday. Since then, hundreds of bloggers wrote that they were outraged with the idea. George and Cindy's attorney Brad Conway said he received numerous angry emails.

Luke said the Anthonys have now changed their mind because do not want the public to think they are misusing any funds.

"It is suspended indefinitely because what they are trying to avoid. They are trying to avoid this cloud of impropriety," said Luka.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18343056/detail.html

So they WERE going to collect money even though the trust fund states that money will be used for burial services, but the public outrage caused them to change their minds.

[Barbara fl.]

{bolding added}

I agree, Barbara fl, especially in bolded. The memorial's focus would be on Caylee. I also think the Anthony's might be surprised to see the outpouring of sympathy for them as grieving grandparents.


Yes, I think they would feel the sympathy....they could recapture what the public is really like....I don't know of anyone that would be anything but...this part is over.....

They could still stand by their daughter if they chose to....that's up to them....but at least show Caylee a decent bid farewell.......jmo

[court~critic1®]

I, for one ,am just waiting to hear all the facts before I decide if there needed to be "tip jars" in this murder at all.


I believe you have the word "tip jar" in the context it was first posted wrong. The "tip jar" was pertaining to donations from the ppupblic. Not tips on who killed Caylee. Hope this answers your questions.

If I am wrong, then that poster will let me know I am sure.

[*MoonRider*]

Not a tip jar, but apparently the Trust Fund is still open and accepting donations:

http://helpfindcaylee.usualbeings.com/help.html

All funds donated to the trust fund will go directly towards funding the efforts in finding Caylee. Funds are currently being used to pay for fliers, t-shirts, water for volunteers, etc. Once Caylee is brought home all remaining funds will be donated to charities that help the families of missing children. The family does not benefit financially from any donations made to the trust fund, and it is being administered by a third party (Jody A. Parker). If you are interested in donating you may make a deposit at any Wachovia Bank in the Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony Trust Account:
Make the check or money order payable to "Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony". Any questions or request for contribution deposits may be directed to Caylee's Trustee, Jody A. Parker.


http://helpfindcaylee.usualbeings.com/images/September%2025th%20Trust%20Agreement%20(2)(2).pdf

The Trust Fund Agreement still states in paragraph 2. Purposes that the funds will be used for burial expenses and administration of Caylee's estate should she be deceased.


Thank you for the eye opener. This is under the thank you link. Bolded by me :confused:

All funds donated to the trust fund will go directly towards funding the efforts in finding Caylee. Funds are currently being used to pay for fliers, t-shirts, water for volunteers, etc. Once Caylee is brought home all remaining funds will be donated to charities that help the families of missing children. The family does not benefit financially from any donations made to the trust fund, and it is being administered by a third party (Jody A. Parker). If you are interested in donating you may make a deposit at any Wachovia Bank in the Help Find Caylee Marie Anthony Trust Account:

[kitty1182]

They do put the empathasis on all the lies that have been told.

Yes................

[SavannahStar]

Poster's write things like that because it is a fact that all of the anthonys apparently have a legal exposure, thus all the talk of immunity and charges BY THEIR OWN ATTORNIES.

Quite different from what you posted about a public that has offered their time, effort, money and concern for Caylee. imo.

And in many cases, lest you forget, that is the SAME public who has offered no consolation whatsoever to the Anthonys in their loss..only criticism and ridicule and mockery.

[aubrey04]

~snipped for space~

So they WERE going to collect money even though the trust fund states that money will be used for burial services, but the public outrage caused them to change their minds.

Yes, that's it appears to be. I think right when all this was going down - there was news in the media about the Anthony's possibly being charged and then their new lawyer was quickly trying to set up immunity as soon as Caylee's body was found and the additional search warrants were made on the Anthony home.

Maybe they decided that it wasn't in their best interest to panhandle at this time. I am sure later on down the road, they won't be opposed to selling their story though. We'll see.

I have a feeling they are still receiving donations though.. they're just not soliciting publicly anymore. JMO, of course.

[VII]

Perhaps their Church family is helping out?

[*MoonRider*]

They do put the empathasis on all the lies that have been told.

It would take a mini-series to cover ALL the lies. JMO

[BJames]

Perhaps their Church family is helping out?

That could be...