Caylee Anthony New Years Eve Part II

[?noanswer]

Thanks, I agree with your scenario. I went back to the computer forensics report and it shows that was the date the pic was taken on the camera at 12:03 pm it also shows that it was uploaded to the laptop on June 17th at 3:28 pm and modified at 9:58 pm that same day. Now how the heck did she upload it to her myspace on June 15th. I am positive that is the date that showed on the video section of her myspace and even did a google search and found where people were talking about it being uploaded that day.

So now I am wondering what all her activities were on the 17th if she is uploading it to her laptop that day she had to have been home to access Cindy's camera. God this case can spin you around and around.

I think Casey spent a lot of time at the house when G &C were not there. JMO

[playnice]

Duct tape isn't an everday use household item. Maybe for a plumber it is. I don't have any duct tape, but don't think it would be a bad idea to have it around the house.

How in the world do you live without it? Its right up there with tylenol.
Duct tape, super glue and hot glue gun. can fix anything.
(I hem stuff with a glue gun.)

I bet it was Amys duct tape though.

[Jeepers]

As some posters already know, my husband and I lost our son over forty years ago to cancer, he was 3 years old. I guess that is why this case causes so much pain for me. My husband and I are in our early seventies, we have seven adult children, seven grandchildren and one great grandchild, but Timothy (our son) is never far from our thoughts, even today.

The one thing I want from all of this, is for little Caylee to receive justice, and I pray everyday that everyone involved in this case will take a step back and remember this is all about a little girl who didn't get a chance at life. Everyone seems to be so busy protecting themselves, Caylee will never have that chance!

All these "little games" being played by these "big adults", can't someone just say enough of this nonsense, let's respect Caylee and her short life on this earth. Even little Caylee put her great grandfather before her own happiness, remember "are you tired pa pa"? The A's were right, she was a very bright little girl, why don't you follow her example?

Pebbles, you are in my thoughts and prayers. There are several posters on this board that I enjoy reading their post and know they have big hearts just by their words. God Bless everyone on this New Years Eve and I hope everyone has a very good 2009.
I just cry every time I hear her little voice asking pa pa if he is tired. What a sweet little angel baby.

[gaelicpeas]

Duct tape isn't an everday use household item. Maybe for a plumber it is. I don't have any duct tape, but don't think it would be a bad idea to have it around the house.

lol... well, I have about 20 rolls of duct tape in my house. It was here when I moved in (previous owner was a "handyman", aka, rigged all kinds of things), and I have slowly been making dents in the 20 rolls...

[?noanswer]

Oh just great. So NOW The Family will turn over evidence. I say they're a day late and a dollar short. They would have carried out this charade forever if she hadn't been found. Most of my worst imaginings over this case have been coming true. I am sick over this people.

At least they are admitting they have evidence! JMO

[PolyGraph]

I understand, me either, not pointing the middle fingers, just curious. Remember NE giggling during crime scene video? video=nervous, IMO.
BTY... I will watch the Jean K. show tonight and catch up:thumbup:
I have been out this afternoon to buy a new refrigerator, big fight, I want freezer on bottom, DH wants the top, LOL.
ppl act so unusual in these types of situations, I will never forget the nervous laugh that Lee shared in the tapped LE interview about the depcomp smell, not a good move. IIRC Lee and Casey stood in the garage and laughed about the smell, per Lee's taped interview.

yeah another poster said the exact same thing about lees laugh...now which fridge did you get the freezer on top or bottom? ololololol

[playnice]

At least they are admitting they have evidence! JMO

They are. Thats a start I guess.

[AJandTam]

At least they are admitting they have evidence! JMO

Thats kind of interesting considering how many times the house has been searched and things have been pulled from the house by LE already?? Where is this evidence hidden??

[?noanswer]

NO duct tape in the A's home, what is up with that????

GA looks like a handy guy, why no duct tape?


Someone could have thrown it away. The absence of any could be telling. JMO

[Jeepers]

How in the world do you live without it? Its right up there with tylenol.
Duct tape, super glue and hot glue gun. can fix anything.
(I hem stuff with a glue gun.)

I bet it was Amys duct tape though.

OOH Duct Tape. I went downstairs the other day and saw where DH has operated on his little bench he had glued a leg and had taped up with Duct Tape to let it dry.
I just stared at it in fear:w00t:
Casey has ruined my love of Duct Tape. I am think of Caylee now when I see it.:cursing:

[playnice]

Thats kind of interesting considering how many times the house has been searched and things have been pulled from the house by LE already?? Where is this evidence hidden??

I bet its stuff LE already has from the searches . Whatever was purchased on that JC Pennys card may match something removed from that house and was wrapped around Caylees body.

[True2Blues]

Duct tape isn't an everday use household item. Maybe for a plumber it is. I don't have any duct tape, but don't think it would be a bad idea to have it around the house.

It's a pretty common household item for most people I know. It's really handy for temporary repairs you may need to make. Even when I was a kid, we always had it around.

[PolyGraph]

Yeah, because something backed them into a corner to find that body and quick. And I think that nothing in this case was or is coincidental. Especially we are looking at a meter reader who is acting bizarre on the phone with emergency personnel reporting not once, not twice but THREE TIMES and refusing to use the tip line, begging the police to go to the spot to check out the bag. And even says something to the effect "not if there is a dead body in there I'm not."

And I think what it was that may have backed them into a corner to pull off this sham or scam is something to do with what is on those tapes that the PI has AND it is directly related to something that the PI is willing to tell LE that Baez is trying his damnest to prevent. Something that could disbar him perhaps??? Not sure what yet, but something that Baez is taking to the extreme personally. That was a weird statement to make abou the dead body that is..and you could be right but for some reason, Im thinking the meter reader is not involved like that, and just maybe he took the whole thing way to lightly... but it would be a good theory as to why he was acting so strangely. Next time I see my meter reader im going to do one of these:sneaky:

[PolyGraph]

OOH Duct Tape. I went downstairs the other day and saw where DH has operated on his little bench he had glued a leg and had taped up with Duct Tape to let it dry.
I just stared at it in fear:w00t:
Casey has ruined my love of Duct Tape. I am think of Caylee now when I see it.:cursing: mee to jeeps....i have to go out and et the colored ones now to get that awful thought out of my head ticks me off.

[AJandTam]

I bet its stuff LE already has from the searches . Whatever was purchased on that JC Pennys card may match something removed from that house and was wrapped around Caylees body.

Hi Playnice. Did I mess up, they aren't turning over evidence?? Or the LE already took the evidence..

LOL, never mind. This could be one of those cooperating under court order things...

[beetlebrow]

yes she did, Amy texted her and accused her of stealing the duct tape out of her purse around the time of the No Clothes Party.

This is incorrect....i wish people would remember it was GAFF tape.

[PolyGraph]

I'm convinced now that I really need to go buy some duct tape, just in case the police ever want to search my house. ur too funny:lol:

[Shades]

She's probably thinking about how much fun she is going to have when she gets out, because she thinks she'll get away with this. She has been able to get away with things all her life, why should this be different?

She's safer inside her cement cage.....
U think she'd survive out of jail now??
As bad as she think she has it now,
it's nothing compared to the 'outside' world.
JMHO

[playnice]

It's a pretty common household item for most people I know. It's really handy for temporary repairs you may need to make. Even when I was a kid, we always had it around.

I keep some in my camera bag just in case a battery door would break or whatever.
Probably not a good idea but I think alot of people have it in their car.
If Caylee was in diapers its a good quick fix if one of those tab things tear. Casey may have kept duct tape in the car.

[101Spots]

I wonder is Amy has anything that still has some of her tape on it. I just don't get the A's not having duct tape.

Casey used it all?

[Jeepers]

Someone could have thrown it away. The absence of any could be telling. JMO

I have wondered if the tape was not in Casey's trunk.

[Carol25]

Let's be practical in this matter. None of this goes to who the murderer is,

But it does go to obstruction of justice, right?

[playnice]

Hi Playnice. Did I mess up, they aren't turning over evidence?? Or the LE already took the evidence..

LOL, never mind. This could be one of those cooperating under court order things...

lol. Who knows . Its the Anthonys.

[Shades]

This is incorrect....i wish people would remember it was GAFF tape.

I think U mean 'gaffers' tape....
not gaff. Althought, it was a rather
large gaff.

[PolyGraph]

How in the world do you live without it? Its right up there with tylenol.
Duct tape, super glue and hot glue gun. can fix anything.
(I hem stuff with a glue gun.)

I bet it was Amys duct tape though. hey nice, that glue gun can fix anything cant it? I use it for scrapbooking, holding hems too :-) and for repairing wood items it works wonders!!!! ok im sounding like an info mercial haha, back to my dear little caylee...

[PolyGraph]

I think U mean 'gaffers' tape....
not gaff. Althought, it was a rather
large gaff.


just when i thought i knew it all, what the HECK is gaff?????

[ccat]

Pebbles, you are in my thoughts and prayers. There are several posters on this board that I enjoy reading their post and know they have big hearts just by their words. God Bless everyone on this New Years Eve and I hope everyone has a very good 2009.
I just cry every time I hear her little voice asking pa pa if he is tired. What a sweet little angel baby.

Yes, I do too. That is just so adorable. What a sweet little treasure. How could her mother not want her!!

[Calla]

ok i am watching NG and the videos ..again!

no one will ever convince me that cindy and george had anything to do with caylee's death...
cindy asking casey to let her look into her eyes because she knows she has to do that just reiterates that cindy knows she has been lied to by her daughter before and if she could make the choice, she would choose to believe her. She tries telling her that she trusts her to get her to come clean. I notice how Casey breaks down when her mom asks her to do that because she beleives her mom will be able to tell she is lying.
My Lord! This woman may be a bit**, but hey...so am I.

Casey does "love that little girl" and "miss her so much" (as much as she is capable of that & even if it isnt in a way we consider 'normal')... too bad she didn't realize that until it was too late.

I know the computer searches are terribly incriminating, but I still want to believe it was an accident.

I luv most of you posters...so don't be too harsh..lol

[playnice]

I'm convinced now that I really need to go buy some duct tape, just in case the police ever want to search my house.

AH. dont worry. By the time they get done with computer forensics you wont need anything else.:biggrin:

[Shades]

just when i thought i knew it all, what the HECK is gaff?????


I don't know what 'gaff tape' is, but when I worked in TV, the lighting guys & electrians used 'gaffer tape'.
It comes in many colors and is very useful.
I don't know if U can buy it at an ordinary hardware
store......I used to have rolls and rolls of the stuff.

[101Spots]

just when i thought i knew it all, what the HECK is gaff?????

Duct tape for snobby people.





j/k

[legalmania]

lol... well, I have about 20 rolls of duct tape in my house. It was here when I moved in (previous owner was a "handyman", aka, rigged all kinds of things), and I have slowly been making dents in the 20 rolls...

Duct tape to me is as shrimp was to ba ba in Forest Gump. I use it for everything. I won't go on the way ba ba did but it is essential in this posters life.

[beetlebrow]

I think U mean 'gaffers' tape....
not gaff. Althought, it was a rather
large gaff.


My mistake....that is what we call it when working on a production...

[PolyGraph]

ok i am watching NG and the videos ..again!

no one will ever convince me that cindy and george had anything to do with caylee's death...
cindy asking casey to let her look into her eyes because she knows she has to do that just reiterates that cindy knows she has been lied to by her daughter before and if she could make the choice, she would choose to believe her. She tries telling her that she trusts her to get her to come clean. I notice how Casey breaks down when her mom asks her to do that because she beleives her mom will be able to tell she is lying.
My Lord! This woman may be a bit**, but hey...so am I.

Casey does "love that little girl" and "miss her so much" (as much as she is capable of that & even if it isnt in a way we consider 'normal')... too bad she didn't realize that until it was too late.

I know the computer searches are terribly incriminating, but I still want to believe it was an accident.

I luv most of you posters...so don't be too harsh..lol ITA...about the grandparents that is...and Im just wondering why those computer key term searches are not listed in those documents in the links section...ive been looking for them and havent been able to find them...anyone kjnow where i can find them??? the actual documents that show where the 'neck breaking' etc searches where done and exactly when? I noticed that they are not listed and ive looked everywhere....i think that is the most incriminating evidence in this case...moo... and we love you too:wub:

[ccat]

ok i am watching NG and the videos ..again!

no one will ever convince me that cindy and george had anything to do with caylee's death...
cindy asking casey to let her look into her eyes because she knows she has to do that just reiterates that cindy knows she has been lied to by her daughter before and if she could make the choice, she would choose to believe her. She tries telling her that she trusts her to get her to come clean. I notice how Casey breaks down when her mom asks her to do that because she beleives her mom will be able to tell she is lying.
My Lord! This woman may be a bit**, but hey...so am I.

Casey does "love that little girl" and "miss her so much" (as much as she is capable of that & even if it isnt in a way we consider 'normal')... too bad she didn't realize that until it was too late.

I know the computer searches are terribly incriminating, but I still want to believe it was an accident.

I luv most of you posters...so don't be too harsh..lol

It would be an accident for most people, but I think there was a lot of anger against Cindy. After that big fight, what Casey may have been researching on the computer came to fruition in a rage.

[starling]

It's just all a complete sick Circus, makes me want to scream at the top of my lungs and I'm a stranger. A precious baby dead, murdered at the hands of her own mother, then tossed away like a piece of trash, left to rot in the woods until nothing left but bones. Now what is left of this little body is lying in a morgue. All the adults in her life, those who were suppose to love her, the ones she..as a child, needed and depended on and loved unconditionally, along with the one that murdered her, have done nothing but run around, spun Bull, protected the very one that took her life, insulted those that tried to help find her and now..running around lawyer-ing up, asking for immunity to protect themselves..the very people that were suppose to take care of and protect her, WHERE was HER immunity from harm?? This wasn't some pet that wasn't taken care of properly then tossed away,..this was a child, a precious baby..their flesh and blood. This is all just so pathetically sad.:cuss:

WELL said..ITA :cuss:

[steffaroob4]

I wonder if she used Amy's tape, if LE would be able to match the tape back to Amy, that would be a huge break.

Could casey have been trying set Amy up?

[PolyGraph]

You know I always talk about my now retired family lawyer, when he says that Court is not about the truth, it is about who the best actors are and what props they can bring to the play. Well he always used to say that everyone has a price and for the right price you can get anyone to do anything. So that's why I thought that the meter reader can be "daisy chained" back to Casey or that dream team of hers. I'm just saying.
oh my isnt that the sad truth, ALMOST anyone can be bought, my ex tried to pay off my neighbor (he told me this later on) to say things that were untrue about me to get my kids away from me...it didnt work, the neighbor was going into law enforcement and ratted his butt out lol...

[funkyflower]

I think U mean 'gaffers' tape....
not gaff. Althought, it was a rather
large gaff.


A gaffer is someone who generally works on some sort of music/tv production crew and help setup.

Gaffer tape is what they call the tape they use to hold down wires and such on stage. Some people call duct tape gaffer tape. However, true gaffer tape is made of cotton fibers, not synthetic and is matte as to not reflect light on stage.

If Amy was truly talking about wasting her gaffer tape, it was bc its more expensive than your standard duct tape. Who knows if it was or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaffer_tape

[cloe23]

Well Casey we are glad your not on the outside either!

[TxLady2]

You're not following this case in reality are you? Please look up dignity. Tell me where they showed Caylee that from day one? They didn't have the dignity to go look for her. When she was found dead they went to the Ritz. They would have had a decent funerial for her by now. So you can believe what you want, it will never be truthful about the Ants. :mad:


Dignity has nothing whatsoever to do with this.
They were taken to the hotel as soon as they got off the plane from CA by OCSO because Caylee's remains had been found and they were doing a search at their house. The hotel bill was probably paid for by the county, not the Anthonys.
They WERE looking for her... just not in the rivers, woods and every dumpster in town. They hired a PI to look for a LIVE Caylee. They could not participate in searching for a DEAD Caylee. And I wouldn't either, if it were my grandchild!!!
As for the funeral plans, it's their business, not yours or mine. There could be reasons we don't know about, maybe a 2nd autopsy.
With all due respect, you do not know what is in their minds or their hearts, do you.... !
And yes, some of us will believe what we want to, whether you like it or not.

[?noanswer]

Do you know if they sell that at Walgreens? Is it better than duct tape?

I just searched. It said gaffer tape is superior to duct tape and is used in the film industry. It also costs $20.00 per roll. I doubt Walgreens would carry it. JMO

[cuddlyrunner]

It's 1.20 am here folks so just got in to wish you all a Happy New Year-may it bring all that you wish for !

May it bring a conviction on our little Caylee's case and may we all find peace with the verdict

xx

[beetlebrow]

A gaffer is someone who generally works on some sort of music/tv production crew and help setup.

Gaffer tape is what they call the tape they use to hold down wires and such on stage. Some people call duct tape gaffer tape. However, true gaffer tape is made of cotton fibers, not synthetic and is matte as to not reflect light on stage.

If Amy was truly talking about wasting her gaffer tape, it was bc its more expensive than your standard duct tape. Who knows if it was or not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaffer_tape


I know.....because Amy said it was in her e-mail....:scared:

[Carol25]

I kinda think it was an accident too.
When someone is searching chloroform, neckbreaking, shovel on her computer and her daughter ends up missing, that's kind of a red flag, don't you think?

Usually when an accident happens, a person doesn't wait 31 days to report it, do they? Then hide the body?

What am I missing that points to an accident? Can you explain those red flags?

Or are you just such a good hearted person, that you just want it to be? Which I couldn't blame you for that.

[steffaroob4]

So stupid, casey asks about airport sighting and DOESn'T drill CA with one hundred questions. What was she wearing, did she look scared, who was the girl with, was she holding anything, did she look hurt, was she crying, was she talking about zanny's puppy?

[playnice]

Just listening to those tapes again on NG. when cindy brought up Tara (Marks pyscho ex wife according to Casey) she really gets defensive.
What got me was her bring Christina up and telling Cindy not to believe her basically. Christina was geniunely broken up and worried to death in that call home from jail Casey made.

[Carol25]

It's 1.20 am here folks so just got in to wish you all a Happy New Year-may it bring all that you wish for !

May it bring a conviction on our little Caylee's case and may we all find peace with the verdict

xx
Happy New Years to You, too! Certainly it has to be better than last year! :crying:

[funkyflower]

I know.....because Amy said it was in her e-mail....:scared:

So you know whether she refers to duct tape as gaffer tape? I don't.
It could be a cool way of referring to duct tape. That's why I posted it.

That's what she called it, but no one knows whether it was or just duct tape.

[MrsHudson]

ok i am watching NG and the videos ..again!

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Casey does "love that little girl" and "miss her so much" (as much as she is capable of that & even if it isnt in a way we consider 'normal')... too bad she didn't realize that until it was too late.

I know the computer searches are terribly incriminating, but I still want to believe it was an accident.

I luv most of you posters...so don't be too harsh..lol


So why was Casey partying, shopping and watching movies with her boyfriend after the "accident",without a care in the world? And why, if she loved Caylee, did she wrap her in a garbage bag and throw her in a field to rot?

Casey loves no one. See it's not about what you want to believe because you are a nice person. It's about keeping all the facts in your head. And if you think or want to believe it's an accident, you have not done that. You have not remembered that Casey was happy as a lark for 31 days after the "accident." She killed Caylee and she went on a crime spree too, stealing money and shopping for things for her self.

Her happiness after the death of her child means Casey was dancing on Caylee's grave and that means there was no accident. Casey is evil. Hard to believe but true.

[PolyGraph]

It's 1.20 am here folks so just got in to wish you all a Happy New Year-may it bring all that you wish for !

May it bring a conviction on our little Caylee's case and may we all find peace with the verdict

xx happy new year!!!! wow its 1:20 am there??? what a time difference wow:hat:

[True2Blues]

So why was Casey partying, shopping and watching movies with her boyfriend after the "accident",without a care in the world? And why, if she loved Caylee, did she wrap her in a garbage bag and throw her in a field to rot?

Casey loves no one. See it's not about what you want to believe because you are a nice person. It's about keeping all the facts in your head. And if you think or want to believe it's an accident, you have not done that. You have not remembered that Casey was happy as a lark for 31 days after the "accident." She killed Caylee and she went on a crime spree too, stealing money and shopping for things for her self.

Her happiness after the death of her child means Casey was dancing on Caylee's grave and that means there was no accident. Casey is evil. Hard to believe but true.

Not hard to believe at all. Casey is evil.

[PolyGraph]

He probably didn't offer her enough money. Would a couple million have changed her mind? it was a him, you know what your right im sure it would have thats a horrible thought, but your right. LUckily my ex is not a rich person.

[marshmallow]

On WESH-Channel 2, attorney Brad Conway (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/12/we-end-the-year.html)said his clients George and Cindy Anthony will turn over any evidence, even if it's damaging to daughter Casey's case. Conway told Bob Kealing that law enforcement did not find duct tape in the Anthonys' home. Duct tape was reportedly found on Caylee's skull. "We are expecting many more developments in the coming weeks," Kealing said in ending his report.



sounds to me like he's saying they might know where said duct tape is but unless given immunity... they aren't going to pony it up.

[steffaroob4]

What was the ladies name CA asked casey if she knew, something about mental breakdown?

[RN_WV]

Dignity has nothing whatsoever to do with this.
They were taken to the hotel as soon as they got off the plane from CA by OCSO because Caylee's remains had been found and they were doing a search at their house. The hotel bill was probably paid for by the county, not the Anthonys.
They WERE looking for her... just not in the rivers, woods and every dumpster in town. They hired a PI to look for a LIVE Caylee. They could not participate in searching for a DEAD Caylee. And I wouldn't either, if it were my grandchild!!!
As for the funeral plans, it's their business, not yours or mine. There could be reasons we don't know about, maybe a 2nd autopsy.
With all due respect, you do not know what is in their minds or their hearts, do you.... !
And yes, some of us will believe what we want to, whether you like it or not.

Don't forget they lawyered up on that flight too.
If my child, grandchild, niece, dog, etc. ever went missing I would look for them, dead or alive, because I think the "not knowing" is worse than the truth.

[chrissybot]

So stupid, casey asks about airport sighting and DOESn'T drill CA with one hundred questions. What was she wearing, did she look scared, who was the girl with, was she holding anything, did she look hurt, was she crying, was she talking about zanny's puppy?

and what else did she say, she didnt want to be on the news & didn't expect to have the most catostrophic thing happen to HERSELF!! WHAT!!?? HERSELF! UUGGGG!! These tapes are making me sick.....all i hear is ME ME ME ME ME.................:angry::cursing::cuss:

[True2Blues]

I can think of only one reason why a mother wouldn't be moving heaven and earth to find her baby.

Move over Susan Smith. Here comes another monster just like yourself. She'll be alive and well and living inside prison walls, getting to play on the internet, getting free medical and dental and sucking the taxpayers dry for years to come. :angry:

Don't forget that there are male guards in women's prisons.

[marshmallow]

There is no duct tape in the house so that posters can say that now they are hideing evidence:thumbsup:

I just commented exactly that and I stand by my comment

[steffaroob4]

sounds to me like he's saying they might know where said duct tape is but unless given immunity... they aren't going to pony it up.

hmmm....you think they have a couple aces up their sleeves.
this case, I wouldn't put it past them.

[Jeepers]

I think U mean 'gaffers' tape....
not gaff. Althought, it was a rather
large gaff.


Pardon my ignorance what is gaffers tape
I have not heard that word
TY

[True2Blues]

and what else did she say, she didnt want to be on the news & didn't expect to have the most catostrophic thing happen to HERSELF!! WHAT!!?? HERSELF! UUGGGG!! These tapes are making me sick.....all i hear is ME ME ME ME ME.................:angry::cursing::cuss:


That was a laugh and a half, wasn't it? (A derisive laugh)

[ann10]

Dignity has nothing whatsoever to do with this.
They were taken to the hotel as soon as they got off the plane from CA by OCSO because Caylee's remains had been found and they were doing a search at their house. The hotel bill was probably paid for by the county, not the Anthonys.
They WERE looking for her... just not in the rivers, woods and every dumpster in town. They hired a PI to look for a LIVE Caylee. They could not participate in searching for a DEAD Caylee. And I wouldn't either, if it were my grandchild!!!
As for the funeral plans, it's their business, not yours or mine. There could be reasons we don't know about, maybe a 2nd autopsy.
With all due respect, you do not know what is in their minds or their hearts, do you.... !
And yes, some of us will believe what we want to, whether you like it or not.


Good post! I agree with you about the funeral. I'm sure this is a matter that is complicated by the legal particulars as well as the holidays.

I also think it's possible that the family may have already had a private funeral.

If not, it really isn't anyones business. imo

[starling]

Well Casey we are glad your not on the outside either!




I hope she gets a stale baloney sandwich 365 until she takes her last selfish breath!
JMO

[playnice]

I've never really been convinced about the computer searches. I have to wait and see how its presented in court.

I would never try and suggest that Casey didn't act very badly in the days and weeks to follow. But she didn't seem like a person trying to get away with murder. Its as if she wanted to be caught.

I belive Caylee accidentally drowned in the pool while her mom wasn't watching her. Its the "flurry of calls" that makes me tend to believe it was an accident. Still, there is no exusing her behavior afterward, and I wouldn't even try.

Why the duct tape around her head if it were an accident?

[Calla]

LOL I knew I related to Cindy for some reason. She says in the jailhouse video that someone said Cindy had been hospitalized for a mental condition..and she laughs as if it is absolutely ludicrous..

So my in law said that about me, and convinced her relatives it was true...and it was Ludicrous!

her motive was to keep me away and distant from the 'family' so I would not find out the dirty little secrets.

I can relate...sadly.

A word to the wise though...I still discovered the dirty little secrets anyway:lol: Of course they havent spoken to me in over 15 years.

Casey's dirty little secrets will be revealed and my prayers will be..if Cindy and George are innocent, and I believe they are, that they will realize that appearances are not that important. Concern over what people may think or say may have cost them their grandchild. I hope they can learn that you do what you know to do raising your children and if they choose the wrong path, it is no more your fault than if they were to become president you could take all the credit. jmo

[beetlebrow]

So you know whether she refers to duct tape as gaffer tape? I don't.
It could be a cool way of referring to duct tape. That's why I posted it.

That's what she called it, but no one knows whether it was or just duct tape.

Excuse me?......Amy worked in the theater....Amy and Casey went to a party and were wearing costumes.....gaff (ers) tape is used to tape costumes. Amy had the tape in her purse at the party and somehow Casey got it.

The e-mail states it was gaffers tape and this has been discussed before.....please do some research...:smile:

[MrsHudson]

I kinda think it was an accident too.

A happy accident then. It made Casey very happy. Because she went to the night clubs and rented movies, and danced and went shopping and shed not a single tear. Not one person who was with her the for the 31 days could see a change in her. She was not upset, or sad or even scared. How could you forget that? Is is your emotions that get in the way? I just hope the jury does not have a lapse like that. A lapse like that is exactly what the defense is counting on.

[PolyGraph]

and what else did she say, she didnt want to be on the news & didn't expect to have the most catostrophic thing happen to HERSELF!! WHAT!!?? HERSELF! UUGGGG!! These tapes are making me sick.....all i hear is ME ME ME ME ME.................:angry::cursing::cuss: and did you guys notice the only times she cries is when its in reference to her being her mother s child or something to do with herself, never about caylee, her uncle was right shes such a narcissist.

[Carol25]

I think I would like to live in Orange County then. I know of no other county that would pay for a criminal suspect whose house the police are searching for evidence linking them to a murder case hotel bill! Woohoo I'm going to Florida, rob a bank and get put up in the Hilton by LE!
It now makes sense that when the Anthonys found out about Caylee being found (on that flight home) that they were so calm that they first thouight about getting an attorney first thing.

Any of us would have lost it right there. No coherent thoughts would have come to mind. But if they knew that Caylee was dead (and even possibly where the remains were...God forbid), they knew it was time to cover themselves.

That always amazed me. That was the first thing they did. I expected them to be a complete mess.

[marshmallow]

hmmm....you think they have a couple aces up their sleeves.
this case, I wouldn't put it past them.



that's the way their atty's comments seemed to me. he makes it sound like they'll give over "evidence" if they get immunity.... then talks about no duct tape being found... hmmmm

[True2Blues]

Why the duct tape around her head if it were an accident?.

Duct tape tears and bruises skin. There's no plausible excuse for it to be on that child's face, except to bind and/or gag her.

[Katt2]

What was the ladies name CA asked casey if she knew, something about mental breakdown?

Tia Torres or something similar. Supposedly this person was saying that Cindy had a mental breakdown.

[101Spots]

Just listening to those tapes again on NG. when cindy brought up Tara (Marks pyscho ex wife according to Casey) she really gets defensive.
What got me was her bring Christina up and telling Cindy not to believe her basically. Christina was geniunely broken up and worried to death in that call home from jail Casey made.

Divide and conquer. A useful tool if you're a manipulative person. Casey practiced this often (Jesse and Cindy, for instance). If these people don't compare notes they won't find out the lies. It worked for a long time for Casey. Now it's beginning to crumble........ Thankfully.

[cloe23]

I hope she gets a stale baloney sandwich 365 until she takes her last selfish breath!
JMO

Without any chips.

[RN_WV]

What do you think they did? Asked all the passengers until they found a lawyer willing to work pro bono for them right there on the plane?

I'm not psychic, so I don't know if they talked to any other passengers or not. But I do know that they had a lawyer by the time they got off the plane.

[True2Blues]

that's the way their atty's comments seemed to me. he makes it sound like they'll give over "evidence" if they get immunity.... then talks about no duct tape being found... hmmmm

If that's true, then they're admitting they are withholding evidence. Not the brightest comment to make. I don't doubt it mind you, but you'd think the attorney would be smart enough to not announce that.

[bchand]

It's 1.20 am here folks so just got in to wish you all a Happy New Year-may it bring all that you wish for !

May it bring a conviction on our little Caylee's case and may we all find peace with the verdict

xx

Happy New Year cuddlyrunner !!

[gaelicpeas]

ITA...about the grandparents that is...and Im just wondering why those computer key term searches are not listed in those documents in the links section...ive been looking for them and havent been able to find them...anyone kjnow where i can find them??? the actual documents that show where the 'neck breaking' etc searches where done and exactly when? I noticed that they are not listed and ive looked everywhere....i think that is the most incriminating evidence in this case...moo... and we love you too:wub:

There are definitely some docs in the 2nd doc dump about the computer searches, and there are definitely searches for neck-breaking, chloroform, how to make chloroform, household weapons, etc., (and some apparently unrelated flea product searches).

However, I have never seen the documents with regards to the "missing children" searches. I have seen them reported on NG and various other news outlets, but have never actually seen them. Any help here would be greatly appreciated. TIA.

[funkyflower]

Excuse me?......Amy worked in the theater....Amy and Casey went to a party and were wearing costumes.....gaff (ers) tape is used to tape costumes. Amy had the tape in her purse at the party and somehow Casey got it.

The e-mail states it was gaffers tape and this has been discussed before.....please do some research...:smile:

I posted and discussed this weeks ago about the email and done the "research."
I am saying, I realize she wrote the word gaffer, but as to whether Amy meant it as the real gaffer tape or as a lot of kids who "work in theater", think its cool to call it gaffer tape, when they are using standard duct tape. That's all.
It'll all come out, its not worth getting mean with posters.
PEACE:cool:

[Pokey]

I can think of only one reason why a mother wouldn't be moving heaven and earth to find her baby.

Move over Susan Smith. Here comes another monster just like yourself. She'll be alive and well and living inside prison walls, getting to play on the internet, getting free medical and dental and sucking the taxpayers dry for years to come. :angry:


:mad:This case has brought back the horrors of Susan Smith :angry:

[chrissybot]

and did you guys notice the only times she cries is when its in reference to her being her mother s child or something to do with herself, never about caylee, her uncle was right shes such a narcissist.

O YEAH!! agree with you & True. She is making me angry all over again & i listened to these tapes a ton of times already & I am STILL getting angry!

[101Spots]

I think I would like to live in Orange County then. I know of no other county that would pay for a criminal suspect whose house the police are searching for evidence linking them to a murder case hotel bill! Woohoo I'm going to Florida, rob a bank and get put up in the Hilton by LE!

Naaaaa. They make you suffer at the Ritz. If you want the Hilton, try California.

[steffaroob4]

Tia Torres or something similar. Supposedly this person was saying that Cindy had a mental breakdown.

Is that Kiomarie's step-mother???

or is that CA trying to say Kia Torres and screwing up the name?

[Carol25]

I've never really been convinced about the computer searches. I have to wait and see how its presented in court.

I would never try and suggest that Casey didn't act very badly in the days and weeks to follow. But she didn't seem like a person trying to get away with murder. Its as if she wanted to be caught.

I belive Caylee accidentally drowned in the pool while her mom wasn't watching her. Its the "flurry of calls" that makes me tend to believe it was an accident. Still, there is no exusing her behavior afterward, and I wouldn't even try.
About the computer searches, it's in the links, documented. If you would like me to find it for you, I will.

[Katt2]

Is that Kiomarie's step-mother???

I believe Cindy said it was someone who lived in their neighborhood. I don't know about a connection to Kiomarie.

[bchand]

Now there is no doubt in my mind you are working for the defense dream team and looking for seemingly logical stories and holes to poke in the prosecutions possible case. Casting the seeds of doubt. And I see you are from Florida too. :scared:

ahhhh don't worry January. If MrLucky is with the defense, he'll have to report to Baez that it's a lost cause. :wink:

[True2Blues]

Casey says she prays every day that it will be the day they let her go home. She cries and says she just wants to go home, to be home with those guys. Then she says she would help them look if she was home.

If that was your child, wouldn't your first, last and every prayer be, "Please God, let my child be found alive and safe?"

Casey wants her old life back, the one before Caylee.

[Jeepers]

So why was Casey partying, shopping and watching movies with her boyfriend after the "accident",without a care in the world? And why, if she loved Caylee, did she wrap her in a garbage bag and throw her in a field to rot?

Casey loves no one. See it's not about what you want to believe because you are a nice person. It's about keeping all the facts in your head. And if you think or want to believe it's an accident, you have not done that. You have not remembered that Casey was happy as a lark for 31 days after the "accident." She killed Caylee and she went on a crime spree too, stealing money and shopping for things for her self.

Her happiness after the death of her child means Casey was dancing on Caylee's grave and that means there was no accident. Casey is evil. Hard to believe but true.

Happy New Year Mrs Hudson, I have laughed at you all day today. I want you to finish the story bout the thousand devils with tongs at a bbq. Caylee meant nothing but trouble to Casey. I bet she would give anything at the moment to have her back. Not for Caylee's sake but for hers. as usual it is all bout Casey!

[I'mRight]

I wonder if she used Amy's tape, if LE would be able to match the tape back to Amy, that would be a huge break.

Could casey have been trying set Amy up?


I've thought of that too. Where were the stores that she shopped at with Amy's cheques (in relation to Amy's, her parents, and Tony's place?) Anyone know?

[steffaroob4]

I believe Cindy said it was someone who lived in their neighborhood. I don't know about a connection to Kiomarie.

Kio Torres grew up in that neighborhood.

[RN_WV]

So its not really like they hired a lawyer as soon as they learned a body was discovered. More likely, they had already retained him.

I guess it will eventually be made known exactly when they retained the newest lawyer.

[MrsHudson]

I've never really been convinced about the computer searches. I have to wait and see how its presented in court.

I would never try and suggest that Casey didn't act very badly in the days and weeks to follow. But she didn't seem like a person trying to get away with murder. Its as if she wanted to be caught.

I belive Caylee accidentally drowned in the pool while her mom wasn't watching her. Its the "flurry of calls" that makes me tend to believe it was an accident. Still, there is no exusing her behavior afterward, and I wouldn't even try.

All this time you've been reading this board and you think it was an accident. Sigh. Behaved badly? Awe spank her little hand and send her to her room. Behaved badly. Tsk tsk.

She is depraved. She rode around with that child's rotting body in the trunk of her car. That is depraved!!! That is not just behaving badly!!!

Good grief! All the defense needs is one juror like you.

Sometimes I just feel so disheartened at how shallow some people are.

[Duckaroo]

Casey says she prays every day that it will be the day they let her go home. She cries and says she just wants to go home, to be home with those guys. Then she says she would help them look if she was home.

If that was your child, wouldn't your first, last and every prayer be, "Please God, let my child be found alive and safe?"

Casey wants her old life back, the one before Caylee.

ITA! she'd hit the clubs again..to do her share of the searching.

[steffaroob4]

Kia Torres grew up in that neighborhood.

Casey was telling other friends CA was crazy, I bet ya CA messed up the name. Casey wouldn't hear Tia Torres and not think of her friend Kio torres.:w00t:

I keep hacking up the girls name myself, Kiomarie, lol.

[trich]

sounds to me like he's saying they might know where said duct tape is but unless given immunity... they aren't going to pony it up.

That makes me sick...I hope the LE does not give then any immunity.
What if they helped get rid of the body?
If that were true they need to go to jail.
IMO
This family does not have a clue as to "doing the right thing"

[bchand]

I believe Cindy said it was someone who lived in their neighborhood. I don't know about a connection to Kiomarie.

Kiomarie's stepmother lives right down the street from the Anthony's. She commented on Kiomarie getting paid for her story in the Globe or one of those mags. She said she didn't approve of her doing that. If she had any info, she should have given it to LE freely.

(They don't speak IIRC.)

[Calla]

So why was Casey partying, shopping and watching movies with her boyfriend after the "accident",without a care in the world? And why, if she loved Caylee, did she wrap her in a garbage bag and throw her in a field to rot?

Casey loves no one. See it's not about what you want to believe because you are a nice person. It's about keeping all the facts in your head. And if you think or want to believe it's an accident, you have not done that. You have not remembered that Casey was happy as a lark for 31 days after the "accident." She killed Caylee and she went on a crime spree too, stealing money and shopping for things for her self.

Her happiness after the death of her child means Casey was dancing on Caylee's grave and that means there was no accident. Casey is evil. Hard to believe but true.


ok so then I haven't done that. ok

I do not believe she danced on her grave.
If it were that clear cut, she would never have denied killing her and would have told everyone she was rid of the snot nosed kid.
She may be evil. She is most certainly unstable..not right..sociopathic..etc.

Doesn't mean the selfish, narcissistic person did not cause an accidental death out of negligence and ignorance.
We'll wait and see what comes out..if it ever does. Somehow I think Cindy and George think the only way they will ever know the truth is if they steer clear of Casey. Seems to me as long as they kept talking to her, she kept concealing her acts with lies as if she were protecting her parents from the truth.

I know everyone won't see it like I do.
It's ok to disagree.
I have had 2 pregnancies concealed in my family. One baby died...and years later another survived because of the price paid in the first experience that allowed me to be observant and fight through the denial from a child who thought they were protecting a parent.
I do not blame CIndy and George. You play the hand you're dealt, even when it stinks.

[steffaroob4]

Kiomarie's stepmother lives right down the street from the Anthony's. She commented on Kiomarie getting paid for her story in the Globe or one of those mags. She said she didn't approve of her doing that. If she had any info, she should have given it to LE freely.

(They don't speak IIRC.)

Thanks, that is what I am remembering, I think her last name was Cruz.

[True2Blues]

This is why I cannot watch those videos anymore. Seeing Casey with those fake tears and that greasy hair, telling one lie after another it's sickening and sick. She never once asks if anyone has heard any news about the missing baby that she supposedly loves to much. Telling her parents that she and Casey are almost the same size made me :barf: and seeing her all but soaking up her brother while he plays Detective Columbo, sickening. And George sitting here picking his ear and Cindy fluctuating between doting ally and cover-up queen, just makes me ill.


That comment just did it for me. The answer to her prayers is to be home, with Caylee still missing. No Mother I know would care what happened to her, as long as her child was safe and home.

It isn't a surprise, everything she says is self serving, but boy is it irritating listening to that cold voice say it!

[steffaroob4]

She better hope the state doesn't use that clip of her saying, all she wants is to see Caylee's smile, while showing the jury pictures of the duct tape.

[Oregongal]

O YEAH!! agree with you & True. She is making me angry all over again & i listened to these tapes a ton of times already & I am STILL getting angry!

Happy New Year everyone!
Me too chrissy.
I just want to reach in the tv and smack her.
When she's talking to Lee about how LE has miscontrued her words, put words that she never said out there, does she not realize that those interviews were taped?!?
Don't answer, I know she knows they were, I just don't get it why she continues to say this....misconstrue.
I guess she just thinks that if she says it, it's true. If she says she didn't say something, she didn't and everyone else, including LE is lying.
GRRRRRR!
:cursing:

[MrsHudson]

Happy New Year Mrs Hudson, I have laughed at you all day today. I want you to finish the story bout the thousand devils with tongs at a bbq. Caylee meant nothing but trouble to Casey. I bet she would give anything at the moment to have her back. Not for Caylee's sake but for hers. as usual it is all bout Casey!

Hi Jeepers Happy New Year to you too! Casey is so evil it's hard to fathom. I would not even want to touch her, she's so cold and conniving. She's despicable.

[bchand]

We should rather have murder convictions without a trial, based only on media news reports? I don't think so.

You can say I'm shallow, but you can bet I'm not about to send ANYONE to prison for their lifetime, without irrefutable proof that they are guilty of the crime they have been charged with.

Is that part of jury instructions? Irrefutable proof?

[True2Blues]

Is that part of jury instructions? Irrefutable proof?


The last I heard it was "Beyond a reasonable doubt."

[101Spots]

Is that part of jury instructions? Irrefutable proof?

Certified video tape only!!

<insert rolling santa icon here>

[Calla]

We should rather have murder convictions without a trial, based only on media news reports? I don't think so.

You can say I'm shallow, but you can bet I'm not about to send ANYONE to prison for their lifetime, without irrefutable proof that they are guilty of the crime they have been charged with.

I know you are not asking me or posting to me.
I think Casey did it..but,
I do not think it appropriate to call another poster 'shallow' as neither would I want a poster to call another 'one-sided' or 'biased' etc..

Everyone brings some personal life experiences to this board which helped to form their insight into people and their opinions, and I think everyone should be open to consider other's opinions without insulting them.
I just hope that if I am murdered that my family doesn't know how to get to this board...lol

I am out for now...take care all..happy posting and happy new year!

[gaelicpeas]

Happy New Year Mrs Hudson, I have laughed at you all day today. I want you to finish the story bout the thousand devils with tongs at a bbq. Caylee meant nothing but trouble to Casey. I bet she would give anything at the moment to have her back. Not for Caylee's sake but for hers. as usual it is all bout Casey!

ITA. I know someone who seems to share Casey's personality traits. One day they are mad as heck at whatever.. then the next day they have forgotten what they were even mad about. JMO

[bchand]

Certified video tape only!!

<insert rolling santa icon here>

Another Juror #10

[steffaroob4]

Is that part of jury instructions? Irrefutable proof?

iggy is my friend:tonguewag:
I think Tia Torres is Kiomarie Torres Cruz. CA just got the wrong name from someone else or didn't quite hear it correctly.

[daHawg]

sounds to me like he's saying they might know where said duct tape is but unless given immunity... they aren't going to pony it up.

IIRC in one of the videos of George and Cindy outside their house during the time of the protesters I believe it was Cindy that had a roll of duct tape in her hand along with a hammer. I gotta find it now.

[True2Blues]

Another Juror #10

Oh please no!

[gaelicpeas]

All this time you've been reading this board and you think it was an accident. Sigh. Behaved badly? Awe spank her little hand and send her to her room. Behaved badly. Tsk tsk.

She is depraved. She rode around with that child's rotting body in the trunk of her car. That is depraved!!! That is not just behaving badly!!!

Good grief! All the defense needs is one juror like you.

Sometimes I just feel so disheartened at how shallow some people are.

Never fear, Mrs. Hudson. I would imagine all of those folks are related to the defendant.

[bchand]

IIRC in one of the videos of George and Cindy outside their house during the time of the protesters I believe it was Cindy that had a roll of duct tape in her hand along with a hammer. I gotta find it now.


Wasn't that her "crime scene tape"? (No trespassing)

[steffaroob4]

IIRC in one of the videos of George and Cindy outside their house during the time of the protesters I believe it was Cindy that had a roll of duct tape in her hand along with a hammer. I gotta find it now.

NO WAY
I seem to recall her having a roll of the caution tape.

Hey, I was thinking, if you are heading out to hang up fliers about your missing grandaughter, what supplies would you take?

[chrissybot]

Happy New Year everyone!
Me too chrissy.
I just want to reach in the tv and smack her.
When she's talking to Lee about how LE has miscontrued her words, put words that she never said out there, does she not realize that those interviews were taped?!?
Don't answer, I know she knows they were, I just don't get it why she continues to say this....misconstrue.
I guess she just thinks that if she says it, it's true. If she says she didn't say something, she didn't and everyone else, including LE is lying.
GRRRRRR!
:cursing:

AND, did you notice almost every time she spoke of Caylee she looked off to the side?
I'VE BEEN WITH YOU ALL SHARING & DEBATING THIS CASE FOR ALMOST HALF THE YEAR! I WANT TO WISH YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY AND HEALTHY NEW YEAR!!:thumbsup:

[bchand]

I'm honored. Thank you for the kind compliment.

If you think that's a compliment, ok. Personally I think the man shamed himself.

[ccat]

This is why I cannot watch those videos anymore. Seeing Casey with those fake tears and that greasy hair, telling one lie after another it's sickening and sick. She never once asks if anyone has heard any news about the missing baby that she supposedly loves to much. Telling her parents that she and Casey are almost the same size made me :barf: and seeing her all but soaking up her brother while he plays Detective Columbo, sickening. And George sitting here picking his ear and Cindy fluctuating between doting ally and cover-up queen, just makes me ill.

ITA. Casey's hair and hiccuping through that jail-house conversation! That hiccuping must be a result of eating all that baloney (her own baloney and the jail's).
And what is Cindy jotting down? It reminds me of OJ's writing during his trial.
George looks uncomfortable during the interview. Did anyone notice that he pulls at his ear when Cindy talks nonsense?

[RN_WV]

There must be hundreds more that think like you, the defense dream team will have no problem putting together a favorable jury. They won't even have to ask for change of venue. And chances are looking awfully good that Casey will walk. Party on dude!

Hey, Bob, are you getting all this?

Maybe she'll have another child when she gets out so she can prove how good of a mother she is.

[MrsHudson]

We should rather have murder convictions without a trial, based only on media news reports? I don't think so.

You can say I'm shallow, but you can bet I'm not about to send ANYONE to prison for their lifetime, without irrefutable proof that they are guilty of the crime they have been charged with.

If you think that driving around with the corpse of your dead daughter in the trunk of your car is merely "behaving badly" then I stand by what I said.

If she loved Caylee and killed her by accident she would be heartbroken. She wasn't. She was happy. She was dancing on Caylee's grave. It was no accident. And that flurry of phone calls, IIRC one of them was to Jesse and she was telling him about the fight she had with her parents. Not very upset sounding considering Caylee had just drowned accidentally by your theory.

[Carol25]

Here's an article where Dominic Casey talks about Casey anthony and the case 5 days before he filmed the area where the remains were found. Makes you sick to think he probably knew where the remains were.

http://www.momlogic.com/2008/11/casey_anthonys_private_investi.php

[cloe23]

It's 1.20 am here folks so just got in to wish you all a Happy New Year-may it bring all that you wish for !

May it bring a conviction on our little Caylee's case and may we all find peace with the verdict

xx

My gosh you must be closer to the case I am silently following about the gal from the east cost who coupled up with the 'Harry potter' look a-like and killed the lovely gal from Spain(i think?)Foxy Noxy? I think?
Neat that you are interested in us f0lk, jmo.
I would appreicate any link or knowledge of this case,
Caylee RIP:wub:

BTW PM it if you have anything of insight.

[steffaroob4]

The only official report is that it was Caylee that was found at that site, other then that everything else is theories, rumors and hearsay. Clothes then no clothes, black bag then unknow color bag, 1 bag then double bag, full set of remains then bones scattered over an acre, skull then skull with tape over mouth then skull with tape all the way around, bag anywhere from 10 to 60 foot off the road, duct tape around bag. Only LE knows right now what was really there and they are not telling.

JMO

you forgot the covering, sunglasses and the book.

[Janz]

IIRC in one of the videos of George and Cindy outside their house during the time of the protesters I believe it was Cindy that had a roll of duct tape in her hand along with a hammer. I gotta find it now.

Oh, hope you can find that, I was always looking at the hammers she had in hand....... Cindy with duct tape........

[bchand]

Here's an article where Dominic Casey talks about Casey anthony and the case 5 days before he filmed the area where the remains were found. Makes you sick to think he probably knew where the remains were.

http://www.momlogic.com/2008/11/casey_anthonys_private_investi.php

I posted this last night too Carol. This last sentence says it all about him.


As with the Equusearch effort, Dominic says he would be absolutely devastated if Caylee's remains were found. "I would fall apart. I would not believe the remains were of Caylee Marie. Not for one minute would I believe Casey would do that to her child. I've spent many hours with her and she is a loving and protective mother."

[legalmania]

This is one of my favorites for you Caylee hope you and all the angels enjoy it



----------------
Now playing on Windows Media Player: Willie Nelson - Wind Beneath My Wings (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/willie_nelson/track/wind_beneath_my_wings)

[daHawg]

Wasn't that her "crime scene tape"? (No trespassing)

Dang it you're right that is what it was. Thanks for that now I don't have to search hundreds of videos!!!:wink:

[gaelicpeas]

And the dream team is counting on that. In fact they are here right now trying to figure out if what their chances are for a potential jury pool.

Actually, I think the dream team is celebrating New Year's Eve, and will worry about that "tomorrow". Much like Scarlett..

[ccat]

Maybe she'll have another child when she gets out so she can prove how good of a mother she is.

Maybe she'll have another child in jail.:thumbup:
Note my smiley has sunglasses just like Casey.

[steffaroob4]

I posted this last night too Carol. This last sentence says it all about him.


As with the Equusearch effort, Dominic says he would be absolutely devastated if Caylee's remains were found. "I would fall apart. I would not believe the remains were of Caylee Marie. Not for one minute would I believe Casey would do that to her child. I've spent many hours with her and she is a loving and protective mother."

egads:w00t:

I still wonder what kind of P.I. would tell LP anything, why not just go whisper it to Nancy Grace???

[bchand]

egads:w00t:

I still wonder what kind of P.I. would tell LP anything, why not just go whisper it to Nancy Grace???

Seems like those two (PIs) wanted to be "in" with the Anthonys. They'd be afraid to go near NG lol.

[RN_WV]

Maybe she'll have another child in jail.:thumbup:
Note my smiley has sunglasses just like Casey.

I like yours better. You don't look like a big bug in them.

[cloe23]

Wasn't that her "crime scene tape"? (No trespassing)

I doubt any of this footage will be played during Casey's trial, no purpose. jmo.

[Carol25]

I posted this last night too Carol. This last sentence says it all about him.


As with the Equusearch effort, Dominic says he would be absolutely devastated if Caylee's remains were found. "I would fall apart. I would not believe the remains were of Caylee Marie. Not for one minute would I believe Casey would do that to her child. I've spent many hours with her and she is a loving and protective mother."
Doesn't that just make you vomit? What kind of person is he? :cursing:

[marshmallow]

I'm guessing that you would vote guilty if you were a juror?

if we were jurors we'd have more information to base our decisions on

[Carol25]

if we were jurors we'd have more information to base our decisions on
Heavens, to think WHAT we DON'T know!

[cloe23]

Maybe she'll have another child in jail.:thumbup:
Note my smiley has sunglasses just like Casey.

It happens. :wub:

[RN_WV]

I'm guessing that you would vote guilty if you were a juror?

They wouldn't want me as a juror in this case. I would be screaming hang her high!!

[PuffDragon]

So why was Casey partying, shopping and watching movies with her boyfriend after the "accident",without a care in the world? And why, if she loved Caylee, did she wrap her in a garbage bag and throw her in a field to rot?

Casey loves no one. See it's not about what you want to believe because you are a nice person. It's about keeping all the facts in your head. And if you think or want to believe it's an accident, you have not done that. You have not remembered that Casey was happy as a lark for 31 days after the "accident." She killed Caylee and she went on a crime spree too, stealing money and shopping for things for her self.

Her happiness after the death of her child means Casey was dancing on Caylee's grave and that means there was no accident. Casey is evil. Hard to believe but true.

I agree with you almost all of the time, MrsH, and I agree with most of this too except for one thing. I don't believe you can correlate Casey's behavior after Caylee was gone with what happened to her. If you agree that Casey exhibits sociopathic behavior, and I don't see how anyone could not agree with that once you match her with its clinical symptoms, then you also have to agree that it wouldn't matter to her whether her baby was killed accidentally or deliberately, just that she was gone. Casey, relieved that Caylee was no longer a millstone around her neck, could then pick up and go on with her life without giving her another thought. How it happened that Caylee was gone was of no consequence to Casey. I can't imagine her even caring. If she were dancing on Caylee's grave, as you put it, it's probably because she didn't even care that the grave was there.

[101Spots]

Doesn't that just make you vomit? What kind of person is he? :cursing:

Gullible.

And/or not very bright.

[steffaroob4]

Seems like those two (PIs) wanted to be "in" with the Anthonys. They'd be afraid to go near NG lol.

Then LP goes on about some woman from NBC and the PI wanting to sell the tape. Seems to me LP knows a lot about selling pictures and such to the media, a lot more than the average PI.
Do we have an Anthony PI trying to profit off of Caylee? Is it okay to profit off a dead child by selling a tape, but it isn't right to talk to LE?

This case has drawn in more whackos than I would have ever imagined. Grifters paradise...

We either have very stupid people that have NO way of telling they are being taken advantage of
or
a bunch of con men trying to hustle a murder suspect into a not guilty verdict to profit off of book and movie deals.

[happygert]

I'm guessing that you would vote guilty if you were a juror?

dont know about Mrs. Hudson but I would in nano second.

[PuffDragon]

Don't forget that there are male guards in women's prisons.

I have thought of that, True, and it scares me.

[MrsHudson]

So its not really like they hired a lawyer as soon as they learned a body was discovered. More likely, they had already retained him.

Yes it was right around the time that Kathy Bellich sent Cindy's misdirected e-mails to the FBI. I have to wonder why Kathy sent them to the FBI and not just back to Cindy. I wonder too if Cindy really was out of town when a "hacker" sent those e-mails to Kathy. Sometimes I wonder if the contents of one of those e-mails is why they need immunity. I would not wonder about it except why did Kathy send them to the FBI? That would be Cindy's call since it was her computer and her correspondence that was misdirected.

More questions swirling around Cindy.

[PolyGraph]

There are definitely some docs in the 2nd doc dump about the computer searches, and there are definitely searches for neck-breaking, chloroform, how to make chloroform, household weapons, etc., (and some apparently unrelated flea product searches).

However, I have never seen the documents with regards to the "missing children" searches. I have seen them reported on NG and various other news outlets, but have never actually seen them. Any help here would be greatly appreciated. TIA.Do you know where i could find the 2nd doc dump?

[cloe23]

if we were jurors we'd have more information to base our decisions on

Many times I believe that the jurous know less then we 'the poster'
This is why I will never serve, ever. For information to be withheld would tork me to know end. jmo Any lack of knowledge, of prioros would send me straight to Washington.

[Dells]

When you lose your baby and don;t shed a tear for her then something is bad wrong with you. I bet casey don;t even cry at sad movies. I don;t think she loves anyone.jmho

Yes she does love someone. She loves herself. Only herself.

[playnice]

Many times I believe that the jurous know less then we 'the poster'
This is why I will never serve, ever. For information to be withheld would tork me to know end. jmo Any lack of knowledge, of prioros would send me straight to Washington.

lol Id be raising my hand like Cindy and going, "But wait. What about---."

[SandyO]

I would like to re-read the e-mails between Cindy's mother and aunt but I haven't found them in our links. Can anyone help me with that? Thank ya'.

[gaelicpeas]

Do you know where i could find the 2nd doc dump?

This link has pretty much everything in a very organized manner.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=346658

[gaelicpeas]

I would like to re-read the e-mails between Cindy's mother and aunt but I haven't found them in our links. Can anyone help me with that? Thank ya'.

check this:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=346658

[kaelieanne]

IMO, the MR was where he was suppose to be..Maybe a Higher Power sent him there.....
God works in mysterious ways..

Exactly what I believe. I believe very strongly in the power of prayer and I know that I and a lot of my friends who feel the same way have been praying that God would help someone find her. It was providence IMHO.

[impartial]

Why are people saying C & G lawyered up when a body was found? They had Nejame long before that, they've had a lawyer for a long time, they changed from Nejame to Conway.

Lee is the one who lawyered up when the body was found.

IMO

[SandyO]

check this:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=346658

Thank you very much!

[Danette44]

Happy New Years Everyone!

After watching them tapes tonight and seeing how Cindy, George and even Lee questions her about who she would be willing to talk to and it was everyone else but A & M. Could that because they caught her in all them lies......my my, she can really spin stories. She is a true pathological lair thats for sure - love how she got caught about her job and then later repeated about leaving her cell phone on her desk at work......they really believe in thier lies and she will stick to her nanny story til the end. Cindy trustes her daughter like I have 50 kids NOT! That woman doesn't trust her at all, poor George he's in so much hot water and it will get worst - in my opinon I believe he was very truthful with the GJ, I think it was his words that got her the 1st degree murder charge, and I believe he has Mark NeJames right by his side now. All you posters that believes it was an accident, better let Cindy in on that one - she will tell you no way, Casey would be on the phone to 911 in a heart beat if Caylee scratch her knees, thats how good of a Mother she is. LKL ask her if it could of been an accident and she was very straight forward and said NO. JMOO

[ccat]

Is the trial going to be in March or January?:confused:

[bchand]

I would like to re-read the e-mails between Cindy's mother and aunt but I haven't found them in our links. Can anyone help me with that? Thank ya'.

They're here. Just click on the first one to enlarge it then hit next, etc.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/112608discoverysetten/1/lg/Anthony_pgs_2901-2950_Page_08.htm

[MrsHudson]

Doesn't that just make you vomit? What kind of person is he? :cursing:

Shallow kind of person. Can't keep all the evidence in his head at one time.

[Jeepers]

ITA. I know someone who seems to share Casey's personality traits. One day they are mad as heck at whatever.. then the next day they have forgotten what they were even mad about. JMO

I know what you mean about people like that. I have always steered clear of those once identified. Scary to be around. Never know what they will say or do at any given moment.
Casey is classic. I know she wore Cindy & George out with all the lying and stealing.
It gets to a point that you just let them say or do whatever just to get them to shut up lying or screaming at you.
I believe just by the responses of Rick, Cindy's brother the family as a whole had had their bait of Casey. No one wanted to see her coming.
No one on George's side of the family would help them post bail for Casey. I just think she had ran the gamit with everyone and like us on the outside looking in, The extended family felt that Casey was a evil, lying, thief. JMO

[MrsHudson]

I'm guessing that you would vote guilty if you were a juror?

It was no accident I know that. I do think it was murder. Yes guilty.

[martha]

I'm guessing that you would vote guilty if you were a juror? Tell me please who do you think killed caylee? who threw her body in that bag into the woods. I have no way of knowing who did this to this baby. was she in the trunk of casey car? who put her in the trunk? I have no way of knowing but God knows and I pray he will see that who ever did this to this sweet little baby that had done nothing wrong to anyone will pay with lwop.jmho

[suzanne]

May I please ask does any one have a picture of the "Dream Team"My son says they look like thugs.LOL.

[tomsgirl]

What's with this business of not holding Cindy and George responsible for their words and deeds? These two, though especially Cindy, have done their darndest to lie, deny, obfuscate, obstruct and God knows what else for almost six months.

Cindy has changed stories in mid-sentence, George needs a minute and some encouragement from CA first but then he will always get onscript.
They didn't play the hand they were dealt; they dealt the hand from the bottom of the deck and tried to play everyone else. And yes it stunk. Was the empty pizza box, right?

I wait for the hammer to come down on them. No immunity for baby-killer apologists and collaborators. MOO

Amen......JMO

[Newclothes]

I'm guessing that you would vote guilty if you were a juror?

yes, I bet she would too.....She seems to be a very logical person and any logical juror would vote guilty.

[bchand]

Why are people saying C & G lawyered up when a body was found? They had Nejame long before that, they've had a lawyer for a long time, they changed from Nejame to Conway.

Lee is the one who lawyered up when the body was found.

IMO

From what I recall, Nejame quit on them. Then Cindy was saying she was relieved because he had been stopping them from speaking to whoever they chose to.

Next, the went to CA to check on a "tip" and go on Larry King. The next day, LE called them as they were boarding the plane and told them some remains had been found.

Then a new lawyer shows up at the airport to meet the plane as they returned to Orlando. We really don't know when he was hired.

[cloe23]

lol Id be raising my hand like Cindy and going, "But wait. What about---."


I don't like withholding the evidence. Never have. Never will. period!
I am sorry I don't get your message ?
Not just yours everyone's. LOL

Gosh I should be on another board, I have legal questions.

[PuffDragon]

Casey says she prays every day that it will be the day they let her go home. She cries and says she just wants to go home, to be home with those guys. Then she says she would help them look if she was home.

If that was your child, wouldn't your first, last and every prayer be, "Please God, let my child be found alive and safe?"

Casey wants her old life back, the one before Caylee.

*Bolding mine

Yeah, and then look what happened when she went home. She spent the better part of every day at her lawyer's office and the rest of the day isolated in her room. Bet she didn't even remember a word of that tearful prayer.

[martha]

It was no accident I know that. I do think it was murder. Yes guilty. ITA it was no accident and who ever did this to caylee should pay for the rest of their life. lwop. I look at caylee's pictures and just can;t keep from crying who could hurt a pretty little girl like this. I know theyo or trying to put out a lot of stuff to cause res.doubt but I for one sure hopes it don;t work.jmho

[bchand]

Is the trial going to be in March or January?:confused:

It's currently scheduled for March. Many think it will be delayed again.

[Dells]

:thumbsup:Great post!! The only thing that makes sense is that she just wouldn't go for a plea. IMO, there is no way he could believe that she was telling the truth and Zanny took Caylee. Maybe she thought she had enough protection (from him and others) or those high profile experts are going to wave a magic wand!mo

She probably thought that she was protected because she thought that the body wouldn't ever be found as well. I bet once she found out that the area where she dumped Caylee was under water she thought that all the evidence would be washed away. No wonder she had a panic attack when they found Caylee's remains. She knew her gig was up.

[Janz]

May I please ask does any one have a picture of the "Dream Team"My son says they look like thugs.LOL.

aaahhh, the honesty of a child...

[kaelieanne]

NO duct tape in the A's home, what is up with that????

GA looks like a handy guy, why no duct tape?

Hmmm... good point, Steff. I wonder how many homes in North America don't have a roll of duct tape in their junque drawer.

[bchand]

Don't count on it starting before Sept 2009 at the earliest.

JMO

How's the weather in FL in Sept?

[cloe23]

I'm guessing that you would vote guilty if you were a juror?



Never mind!

[impartial]

From what I recall, Nejame quit on them. Then Cindy was saying she was relieved because he had been stopping them from speaking to whoever they chose to.

Next, the went to CA to check on a "tip" and go on Larry King. The next day, LE called them as they were boarding the plane and told them some remains had been found.

Then a new lawyer shows up at the airport to meet the plane as they returned to Orlando. We really don't know when he was hired.


Yes, Nejame quit. But, the fact remains, they have had counsel for some time. They didn't just up and hire a lawyer for the first time when they were informed a body had been found.

Lee, on the other hand, did not have counsel until then. Which, raises some suspicions for me.

IMO

[gaelicpeas]

Thank you very much!
You are very welcome. Lora did a great job organizing this site, IMO.

[terri]

Been interesting reading tonight. Thanks to all.
Time for me to go celebrate.

My wishes are for 'justice for little Caylee' this coming year!!

Happy New Years everyone !!:seeya:

[bchand]

Been interesting reading tonight. Thanks to all.
Time for me to go celebrate.

My wishes are for 'justice for little Caylee' this coming year!!

Happy New Years everyone !!:seeya:

Happy New Year to you too terri !!

[Cury-us Coyote]

Do you know where i could find the 2nd doc dump?

Chronological Google Search Criteria in “deleted” internet history from A’s HP desktop
Thu 3/06/2008 14:49 – hide myspace
Thu 3/06/2008 14:52 – hide blog
Sat 3/08/2008 8:35 – capstar
Sat 3/08/2008 8:40 – natural removal of fleas
Tue 3/11/2008 11:12 – casey anthony
Tue 3/11/2008 11:13 – casey marie anthony
Tue 3/11/2008 11:13 – colonial high school
Thu 3/13/2008 10:44 – lost numbers
Thu 3/13/2008 11:17 – bustdown
Sat 3/15/2008 23:00 – getting rid of fleas
Mon 3/17/2008 13:43 – chloraform
Mon 3/17/2008 13:54 – alcohol
Mon 3/17/2008 13:54 – acetone
Mon 3/17/2008 13:55 – peroxide
Wed 3/19/2008 10:41 – one tree hill 100th episode
Fri 3/21/2008 14:20 – self defense
Fri 3/21/2008 14:18 – how to make chloraform
Fri 3/21/2008 14:25 – household weapons
Fri 3/21/2008 14:26 – neck breaking
Fri 3/21/2008 14:28 – shovel

Page 2669 Part 8 (19 of 50)
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202651-2700f.pdf

[MrsHudson]

ok so then I haven't done that. ok

I do not believe she danced on her grave. If it were that clear cut, she would never have denied killing her and would have told everyone she was rid of the snot nosed kid.

snipped:

Doesn't mean the selfish, narcissistic person did not cause an accidental death out of negligence and ignorance.

I do not blame CIndy and George. You play the hand you're dealt, even when it stinks.

See the way it works is, when you murder someone you cover it up. You don't go telling everyone. If your child dies as a result of your neglect, you don't go around letting people think you killed her on purpose. You confess that it was an accident and you get a lighter sentence. Casey did the former and not the latter.

As for George and Cindy, they played the hand that was dealt them but they did NOT play it honestly. If you approve of that then that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

[legalmania]

Is the trial going to be in March or January?:confused:

Of 2009 , I doubt it.

[cloe23]

Is the trial going to be in March or January?:confused:

It will be an odd month, my guess Oct. Means nothing just a lotto guess.:confused:

[101Spots]

She probably thought that she was protected because she thought that the body wouldn't ever be found as well. I bet once she found out that the area where she dumped Caylee was under water she thought that all the evidence would be washed away. No wonder she had a panic attack when they found Caylee's remains. She knew her gig was up.

I question the panic attack. We only have Bozo's word on that, and it certainly doesn't fit with the rest of her behavior patterns.

[chrissybot]

She never reported her daughter missing. I for one, would like to see how the jury will get past that fact alone--JMO

[Cury-us Coyote]

I would like to re-read the e-mails between Cindy's mother and aunt but I haven't found them in our links. Can anyone help me with that? Thank ya'.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202901-2950%20f.pdf

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202951-3010%20f.pdf

[gaelicpeas]

here is another great site with links to key inteviews:

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcripts.htm

[MrsHudson]

Happy New Years Everyone!

After watching them tapes tonight and seeing how Cindy, George and even Lee questions her about who she would be willing to talk to and it was everyone else but A & M. Could that because they caught her in all them lies......my my, she can really spin stories. She is a true pathological lair thats for sure - love how she got caught about her job and then later repeated about leaving her cell phone on her desk at work......they really believe in thier lies and she will stick to her nanny story til the end. Cindy trustes her daughter like I have 50 kids NOT! That woman doesn't trust her at all, poor George he's in so much hot water and it will get worst - in my opinon I believe he was very truthful with the GJ, I think it was his words that got her the 1st degree murder charge, and I believe he has Mark NeJames right by his side now. All you posters that believes it was an accident, better let Cindy in on that one - she will tell you no way, Casey would be on the phone to 911 in a heart beat if Caylee scratch her knees, thats how good of a Mother she is. LKL ask her if it could of been an accident and she was very straight forward and said NO. JMOO

Great points. Cindy would never buy that it was an accident! And have we forgotten how quickly the Grand Jury indicted Casey? Thirty minutes flat.

[playnice]

I don't like withholding the evidence. Never have. Never will. period!
I am sorry I don't get your message ?
Not just yours everyone's. LOL

Gosh I should be on another board, I have legal questions.

The hearing they had after Casey was booked for murder. Cindy was there and raising her hand wanting to speaki. judge said "No."
If I were a juror hearing all we have heard and evidence was left out. Id be raising my hand and asking for all of it.

[Dells]

I feel so sorry for Mr. Kronk....The next time there is a child missing, Mr/Ms good citizen might just say "no thanks" I'm not getting involved.mo

I agree. I am betting that he now wishes that he had never gotten involved. What a mess Casey has made!

[gaelicpeas]

Chronological Google Search Criteria in “deleted” internet history from A’s HP desktop
Thu 3/06/2008 14:49 – hide myspace
Thu 3/06/2008 14:52 – hide blog
Sat 3/08/2008 8:35 – capstar
Sat 3/08/2008 8:40 – natural removal of fleas
Tue 3/11/2008 11:12 – casey anthony
Tue 3/11/2008 11:13 – casey marie anthony
Tue 3/11/2008 11:13 – colonial high school
Thu 3/13/2008 10:44 – lost numbers
Thu 3/13/2008 11:17 – bustdown
Sat 3/15/2008 23:00 – getting rid of fleas
Mon 3/17/2008 13:43 – chloraform
Mon 3/17/2008 13:54 – alcohol
Mon 3/17/2008 13:54 – acetone
Mon 3/17/2008 13:55 – peroxide
Wed 3/19/2008 10:41 – one tree hill 100th episode
Fri 3/21/2008 14:20 – self defense
Fri 3/21/2008 14:18 – how to make chloraform
Fri 3/21/2008 14:25 – household weapons
Fri 3/21/2008 14:26 – neck breaking
Fri 3/21/2008 14:28 – shovel

Page 2669 Part 8 (19 of 50)
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202651-2700f.pdf

Cury... do you have a document referencing the missing children searches? TIA

[SandyO]

They're here. Just click on the first one to enlarge it then hit next, etc.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/112608discoverysetten/1/lg/Anthony_pgs_2901-2950_Page_08.htm

Many thanks..............

[Danette44]

Don't count on it starting before Sept 2009 at the earliest.

JMO

I don't know if I could agree on that one - pathological lairs can not stand to be confine in one place for long......Casey thinks Jose is getting her off and she will walk and no way will she allow this to drag out, she wants out now! jmoo

[legalmania]

Legalmania is opening up a request line for tunes for Caylee this is only in memory of her death.

[Duckaroo]

Hi Martha: I think its possible that Caylee drowned accidentally, while her Mother wasn't paying attention. I think this because of the "flurry of calls" that she made on that day. I might be wrong, but I need to see in court evidence of murder 1. Its hard to figure out what might be true, or not true, or just rumor, with so much info, and so many people discussing it.

In my scenario, she isn't exactly innocent. Calylee's death was a direct result of Casey's negligent behavior for sure, and that is a crime, and she should be punished. I just think she should be convicted of whatever it is she is guilty of, nothing more, nothing less.

Or..those flurry of calls could have been Casey intending to spring her Zanny the Nanny took Caylee fairytale on everyone right away, earlier than what she wound up doing..maybe she got no answer, and lost the nerve, then had such a good time enjoying her new life without Caylee..she figured she'd wait until it was absolutely necessary to be bothered with an explanation of where Caylee was.

[Oregongal]

AND, did you notice almost every time she spoke of Caylee she looked off to the side?
I'VE BEEN WITH YOU ALL SHARING & DEBATING THIS CASE FOR ALMOST HALF THE YEAR! I WANT TO WISH YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY AND HEALTHY NEW YEAR!!:thumbsup:

Yes I did chrissy.
Right back atcha!
I pray that this new year will be a wonderful one for all of my friends here.!!!!
:wub: to you all!!!

[101Spots]

The hearing they had after Casey was booked for murder. Cindy was there and raising her hand wanting to speaki. judge said "No."
If I were a juror hearing all we have heard and evidence was left out. Id be raising my hand and asking for all of it.

Uninformed jurors let OJ off. I know there are rules, but it sure don't seem fair sometimes.

[bchand]

Legalmania is opening up a request line for tunes for Caylee this is only in memory of her death.

Here's my #1 choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5dSwVLPCXQ

Fly - Celine Dion

[withay]

Boy the titile of this thread threw me for loop....I thought it said Casey Anthony weds (as in "got married") New Years Eve!:w00t:

[Danette44]

Great points. Cindy would never buy that it was an accident! And have we forgotten how quickly the Grand Jury indicted Casey? Thirty minutes flat.

You got it MrsHudson - only 30 minutes and we know there was no way they could convict her on just what we all know - so George had to of talked, nothing could explain it more than that, like I said the other night - he spilled more than his guts out this time around. jmoo

[playnice]

Boy the titile of this thread threw me for loop....I thought it said Casey Anthony weds (as in "got married") New Years Eve!:w00t:

:w00t:WOW> It does. wouldnt that be a shocker.:w00t:

[Janz]

Here's my #1 choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5dSwVLPCXQ

Fly - Celine Dion

That`s beautiful bchand and also a fav of mine as well.

[martha]

Hi Martha: I think its possible that Caylee drowned accidentally, while her Mother wasn't paying attention. I think this because of the "flurry of calls" that she made on that day. I might be wrong, but I need to see in court evidence of murder 1. Its hard to figure out what might be true, or not true, or just rumor, with so much info, and so many people discussing it.

In my scenario, she isn't exactly innocent. Calylee's death was a direct result of Casey's negligent behavior for sure, and that is a crime, and she should be punished. I just think she should be convicted of whatever it is she is guilty of, nothing more, nothing less.OK thank you I understand what you or saying and it could have happened that way. Maybe she was trying to get a hold of her mom or dad or someone to tell her what to do and when no one ans.she gave up. I just hope when the trial starts we can hear some truth and not a bunch of made up stuff. This is one mixed up case and no matter who did what I just hope who ever killed caylee pays. caylee is the one I am thinking about and praying that God will see that the right one is punished for killing her.I have not understood this case from the start how someone could kill a baby. It could have happened just like you say. I do know caylee is in God's arms and she is fine now.thank you for ans.me.JMHO

[steffaroob4]

Why are people saying C & G lawyered up when a body was found? They had Nejame long before that, they've had a lawyer for a long time, they changed from Nejame to Conway.

Lee is the one who lawyered up when the body was found.

IMO

When was Conway hired?

[Jeepers]

ITA it was no accident and who ever did this to caylee should pay for the rest of their life. lwop. I look at caylee's pictures and just can;t keep from crying who could hurt a pretty little girl like this. I know theyo or trying to put out a lot of stuff to cause res.doubt but I for one sure hopes it don;t work.jmho

I believe that the state will stay on track and I do believe they have evidence from day 1 not day 31.
between the interviews with friends, videotapes of blockbusters, target, interviews with Cindy, George, Lee, Cindy's mother, brother Rick
Telephone and computer records. Lab results, smell of car not even talking about the searches of the A's home several times. The scene where Caylee was found and the items found with her.
The state will lay all this out, there might be some days during trial that the defense will score some points but I believe what the state has against Casey the defense in the end will lose big. Hands down. jmo

[steffaroob4]

Is the trial going to be in March or January?:confused:

Next fall at the earliest. IMO

[Cury-us Coyote]

Cury... do you have a document referencing the missing children searches? TIA

I have NOT seen a missing person, missing child, or escort service search in any of the released documents - only on CNN HN/NG.
jmo

[MrsHudson]

Tell me please who do you think killed caylee? who threw her body in that bag into the woods. I have no way of knowing who did this to this baby. was she in the trunk of casey car? who put her in the trunk? I have no way of knowing but God knows and I pray he will see that who ever did this to this sweet little baby that had done nothing wrong to anyone will pay with lwop.jmho

I think Casey killed Caylee in a fit of rage and frustration, called a catathymic crisis, that had been building up since Caylee was born and came to a head on the day of the 15th. It was likely by chloroform to put her to sleep; and then drowning done while her parents were at work. She then hid her body in the trunk of her car and later disposed of it in the woods by her house.

[legalmania]

Here's my #1 choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5dSwVLPCXQ

Fly - Celine Dion

OMG that was so powerful Caylee you will have a voice at this trial. Baby girl we're listening.

[playnice]

Next fall at the earliest. IMO

OH NO. I cant still be sitting here a year from now. :scared:

[Ellie]

it's ok...:rolleyes:

it wasn't directed at you...and I don't think most people really do know that..but maybe you're right maybe they did...and if I thought so..I still would have posted to my "fellow poster friend". However, the one post seemed to indicate the poster wasn't sure who actually did "go for" immunity..which YES is different than granting it.


why the snide snit? Happy Holidays...be nice...I certainly was not being so...gheesh...

:)

Jayne, it's good to see you over here. I apprecited your clairifying post earlier, some might not know how immunity works. Happy New Year to you!

[legalmania]

This is for you Caylee we will never forget.

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Now playing on Windows Media Player: Sting - Every Breath You Take (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/sting/track/every_breath_you_take)

[MrsHudson]

OK thank you I understand what you or saying and it could have happened that way. Maybe she was trying to get a hold of her mom or dad or someone to tell her what to do and when no one ans.she gave up. snipped

If it was an accident why didn't she persist in getting hold of someone? Why didn't she call 911??????

[suzanne]

aaahhh, the honesty of a child...

LOL.So they look like thugs huh?

[Duckaroo]

Here's my #1 choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5dSwVLPCXQ

Fly - Celine Dion

For Caylee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwt3yXQEZdU

:rose::rose:

[playnice]

I think Casey killed Caylee in a fit of rage and frustration, called a catathymic crisis, that had been building up since Caylee was born and came to a head on the day of the 15th. It was likely by chloroform to put her to sleep; and then drowning done while her parents were at work. She then hid her body in the trunk of her car and later disposed of it in the woods by her house.

Im not sure it was premeditated because I think she may have been thinking about offing G&C. (She was going to get the house).
IF it wasnt premeditated I think it was in rage after her and Cindy fought. Caylee was crying for grandma and Casey shut her up or Casey cold bloodedly killed her to spite and punish Cindy.
I dont think it was an accident. There would be guilt and remorse not shopping, beautifying and partying.

[Janz]

LOL.So they look like thugs huh?

Well I wouldn`t say they look exactly like thugs, just you can very well tell they are in for the money. I have watched them at one too many trials.........

[MrsHudson]

Im not sure it was premeditated because I think she may have been thinking about offing G&C. (She was going to get the house).
IF it wasnt premeditated I think it was in rage after her and Cindy fought. Caylee was crying for grandma and Casey shut her up or Casey cold bloodedly killed her to spite and punish Cindy.
I dont think it was an accident. There would be guilt and remorse not shopping, beautifying and partying.

Sounds likely too.

[steffaroob4]

puzzle me this...

Who is helped by all of accidental death, the meter reader is part of a daisy chain linked to Lee, duct tape on mouth was after death to look like kidnapping theories LP spews nightly on NG?

[Jeepers]

If it was an accident why didn't she persist in getting hold of someone? Why didn't she call 911??????

Because it was not about her.
She only dialed 911 when the protesters scared her.

[martha]

So she just decided to wrap little Caylee's head up with duct tape and stick her in a plastic bag and drive around for a few days while the corpse rotted away. Makes sense to me. No honey that is not what a normal mother would do. I would have been crazy if i had let something happened to my baby. I don;t know casey and from what i have seen of her I don;t care to know her. No mother I know would wait 31 days to report her baby missing. God bless little caylee. She is save now in heaven.jmho

[Cury-us Coyote]

Tom Luka Interview
(hired 3 wks ago, in grey area b/4 subpeona, fund, charges possibility, no offer of immunity yet, referred, rumors)
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=LeeAnthonyAttorney_122920080 849&cat=CAC&title=Thomas%20Luka%20Interview

Suite 1630
http://www.lukalaw.com/
http://www.bconwaylaw.com/ContactUs.jsp

[Newclothes]

Here's my #1 choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5dSwVLPCXQ

Fly - Celine Dion

"If you want me to" by Ginny Owens.....such an amazing song.....

May justice be served to sweet Caylee soon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtNzOpKvPfw

[playnice]

Okay, I'll give that to ya. So she just shoves little Caylee into a GARBAGE bag like yesterday's trash and drives around with a little rotting corpse in her trunk. Yep, sounds like an accident to me.

She took the time to double bag her. Does that count in her favor?:shrug:

[*MoonRider*]

She never reported her daughter missing. I for one, would like to see how the jury will get past that fact alone--JMO

You are the best! I'm getting ready to do a pole dance and enter a hot body contest when my daughter is missing. Cindy seemed so proud on LKL that she was working. GMAB. JMO

[steffaroob4]

Legalmania is opening up a request line for tunes for Caylee this is only in memory of her death.

I guess we will be LP free since NG is running a per-taped special tonight and tomorrow.

I love John Lennon. Imagine

[Cury-us Coyote]

puzzle me this...

Who is helped by all of accidental death, the meter reader is part of a daisy chain linked to Lee, duct tape on mouth was after death to look like kidnapping theories LP spews nightly on NG?

Think about what motives LP.
jmo

[eastside joe]

Even Cindy admitted that it was no accident. She said that Casey was the type of nervous mother that would have been "on the phone with 911 screaming bloody murder" (odd choice of words ya think?) if Caylee had scraped her knee.

That was really strange. If it had been an accident, Casey would have been screaming bloody murder. That makes sense. :huh:

[MrsHudson]

Fear, panic, stupidity, extremely poor judgment. Who knows?

No I am sorry I really am. None of those things make any sense at all. It's not reasonable that when your child is at death's door that you don't call 911 if you love the child. Four year olds have been known to call 911. And it makes no sense to me at all that Casey would more afraid to admit to an accident than to face a murder charge.

[MrsHudson]

Wouldn't you think that if someone was guilty of murder, they would at least try to pretend they were upset? Casey did just the opposite.

She does try to pretend she is upset. Now. Back then she was telling people Caylee was with the nanny so there would be no reason to be upset.

[steffaroob4]

Think about what motives LP.
jmo

Surely he can't think he will get a tv show if she gets a not guilty verdict...

[Calla]

What's with this business of not holding Cindy and George responsible for their words and deeds? These two, though especially Cindy, have done their darndest to lie, deny, obfuscate, obstruct and God knows what else for almost six months.

Cindy has changed stories in mid-sentence, George needs a minute and some encouragement from CA first but then he will always get onscript.
They didn't play the hand they were dealt; they dealt the hand from the bottom of the deck and tried to play everyone else. And yes it stunk. Was the empty pizza box, right?

I wait for the hammer to come down on them. No immunity for baby-killer apologists and collaborators. MOO
I sure didn't say I did not hold them accountable for their words or deeds.

[MrsHudson]

You must have missed her jail house performance. Or the little cameo she did standing behind her lawyer poking herself in the eye, wiping the tear away with her pinkie and then gazing lovingly at her wet finger. Brava, encore!

All the while she was primping her hair making sure it was in place too.

[bchand]

"If you want me to" by Ginny Owens.....such an amazing song.....

May justice be served to sweet Caylee soon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtNzOpKvPfw

Very very pretty song, thanks.

[MrsHudson]

Do you think Caylee died as the result of being shoved into a garbage bag? I would want to know what happened that led to Casey putting her into a bag and dumping her.

What if Casey put her in the garbage bag with a dose of chloroform in the bag with her so she would not struggle?

Horrible thought.

[martha]

I am not hear to fuss with anyone over this case because I do not know what happened to sweet little caylee. I am so glad they found her. I had given up on anyone finding her. I do wish they had found her in aug when the mr first called in. I don;t have to worrie about the one that did this to her even if someone get off God will see that they or punished. My faith is strong. all we or doing here is just given our o.jmho

[Oregongal]

Then LP goes on about some woman from NBC and the PI wanting to sell the tape. Seems to me LP knows a lot about selling pictures and such to the media, a lot more than the average PI.
Do we have an Anthony PI trying to profit off of Caylee? Is it okay to profit off a dead child by selling a tape, but it isn't right to talk to LE?

This case has drawn in more whackos than I would have ever imagined. Grifters paradise...

We either have very stupid people that have NO way of telling they are being taken advantage of
or
a bunch of con men trying to hustle a murder suspect into a not guilty verdict to profit off of book and movie deals.

I, as usual steff, agree with you about so much of this.
I would like to say tho, I like Lenny. Now, before you all get ready to pop me one. I like him for the fact that once he knew he'd made a huge mistake in judgement and bailed out PPOF he admitted it and went on to do many things to try and find Caylee. Do I agree with the way he went about it? Not necessarily. Do I agree or believe alot of what he has said? Not necessarily.
I do tho think that he know alot more than we think he does. Most others think he shouldn't be on NG talking. I on the other hand think I like to see more of him talking. I'd like to hear what he has been prevented from saying when Nancy has cut him off or he's been the lead in for a commercial. In fact, I'd like to see an hour long special....Lenny Speaks.
He has been in his professsion for a very long time, he has contacts, he most likely has 'snitches', he is liked, respected and friends with LE.
I will not be surprised in the least when the trial is over to learn that he's probably had under that hat of his lots of info that he has just not been able to or is right now 'allowed' to speak about.
I could be totally wrong, he may just turn out to be 'one of the whackos'. If so, I'll eat that crow, just hand me the fork.
:cool:

[legalmania]

This is from a special poster for you Caylee

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Now playing on Windows Media Player: The Beatles - Imagine (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/the_beatles/track/imagine)

[bchand]

Getting off for awhile. Putting a movie on.

I'd like to wish all of our posters a very happy and prosperous New Year.

May 2009 bring justice to Caylee.

[enigma]

Just stopping by to wish all of you Happy New Year!!

It's been really interesting sharing in the discussions and debates about justice for the little girl who touched all of our hearts with her infectious smile and angelic eyes.

Your kind, intelligent, witty, knowledgeable and even cutting commentary has made this board a great forum to be part of. It's made me cry, LOL, glad, sad, mad, riveted, teary, but never bored! Look forward to more in 2009!

:rose: for Caylee and :thumbsup: for y'all!

Enigma

[101Spots]

Tom Luka Interview
(hired 3 wks ago, in grey area b/4 subpeona, fund, charges possibility, no offer of immunity yet, referred, rumors)
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=LeeAnthonyAttorney_122920080 849&cat=CAC&title=Thomas%20Luka%20Interview

Suite 1630
http://www.lukalaw.com/
http://www.bconwaylaw.com/ContactUs.jsp

Now *THIS* is durned interesting. They both have the same address, but Conway has no phone number.

Cury, you're outdone yourself this time.
<standing ovation icon here>

[impartial]

Fear, panic, stupidity, extremely poor judgment. Who knows?



I haven't ruled out an accident/unintentional killing. She may have unintentionally overdosed Caylee; she may have become enraged and lashed out at Caylee without the intention of killing her; she may have left her in a hot car and an unintentional death resulted; Caylee may have drowned.

The duct tape ... all speculation as to where it was found, and how it got there. Dr. G. specifically stated there is only skeletal remains, no tissue whatsoever. Duct tape, if put on Caylee's mouth, would not have re-adhered itself to the bones of the mouth, it would have sluffed off with the skin. If there is duct tape near, around the skull, it probably was from the bag, and became entangled after death. Remember the twine wrapped around Conner's neck, and tied into a bow? That was after death.

Casey may not have reported it because she couldn't face the music with Cindy, after Cindy had continually degraded her about her not financially supporting Caylee, etc.

Casey's demeanor is perplexing. It doesn't fit any scenario, whether she murdered Caylee, or it was unintentional. She wasn't even concerned about her own predicament in being in jail, and knowing she may be charged with a capital offense. She did tell some friends there had been inappropriate behavior from her father and brother ... can't believe anything she says ... but if true, it may account for her disassociative state ... she went to an all too familiar happy place she had gone to in the past to escape.

It is going to be a very interesting trial.

IMO

[steffaroob4]

I, as usual steff, agree with you about so much of this.
I would like to say tho, I like Lenny. Now, before you all get ready to pop me one. I like him for the fact that once he knew he'd made a huge mistake in judgement and bailed out PPOF he admitted it and went on to do many things to try and find Caylee. Do I agree with the way he went about it? Not necessarily. Do I agree or believe alot of what he has said? Not necessarily.
I do tho think that he know alot more than we think he does. Most others think he shouldn't be on NG talking. I on the other hand think I like to see more of him talking. I'd like to hear what he has been prevented from saying when Nancy has cut him off or he's been the lead in for a commercial. In fact, I'd like to see an hour long special....Lenny Speaks.
He has been in his professsion for a very long time, he has contacts, he most likely has 'snitches', he is liked, respected and friends with LE.
I will not be surprised in the least when the trial is over to learn that he's probably had under that hat of his lots of info that he has just not been able to or is right now 'allowed' to speak about.
I could be totally wrong, he may just turn out to be 'one of the whackos'. If so, I'll eat that crow, just hand me the fork.
:cool:

An hour long special??? Are you trying to ruin the new year for me?
I love other people's opinions, it helps me figure out things. I am still of the opinion in the end, the garbage he spews will help only the defense.

[Calla]

See the way it works is, when you murder someone you cover it up. You don't go telling everyone. If your child dies as a result of your neglect, you don't go around letting people think you killed her on purpose. You confess that it was an accident and you get a lighter sentence. Casey did the former and not the latter.

As for George and Cindy, they played the hand that was dealt them but they did NOT play it honestly. If you approve of that then that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.

yes and you speak it perfectly as always except for one thing..Casey is not normal!!

something is wrong with her all the way around. Normal people would do what you said. But she isn't.

I would confess my error in judgement. I most certainly would. Not everyone else would, which is why I teach my children that when you screw up, make an error, etc , etc. etc...you do not exaccerbate the problem by trying to hide your mistake, error, shortcoming, failure in judgement, etc. Maybe Casey did not get that point.

[Dells]

I didn't think you were saying that at all- in my mind Casey really believes this is not a reality for her. I don't think that she has accepted the fact that this is very real and more than likely the rest of her life. IMO-

I'm sure too in the beginning that Casey thought that she could maybe beat the charges and walk away a free woman. Now, especially that Caylee's body has been found, I bet the reality that she is going to spend the rest of her life in jail is starting to slowly sink in.

[OneUp]

If you think that driving around with the corpse of your dead daughter in the trunk of your car is merely "behaving badly" then I stand by what I said.

If she loved Caylee and killed her by accident she would be heartbroken. She wasn't. She was happy. She was dancing on Caylee's grave. It was no accident. And that flurry of phone calls, IIRC one of them was to Jesse and she was telling him about the fight she had with her parents. Not very upset sounding considering Caylee had just drowned accidentally by your theory.I have a theory about that "flurry of calls"...I tend to think she was giddy and experiencing an adrenaline rush after she felt the relief of finally getting brave enough to rid herself of her "snot-head"...I think she was OVERJOYED and JONESING knowing she was about to re-enter a life of freedom and frolic. IMO, she was looking for someone to chat with in her heightened state.
I could also be convinced that she thought about ( and tried to initiate) a scenario wherein she played the victim and acted as if Caylee died tragically.... the facts of the body maybe made her halt that plan after a few calls and a good look at the condition Caylee was in. Remember her detailed account of "Zanny's" car crash injuries? I STILL think that is the Caylee she last saw.
I know it's sick, but I've seen people practically dancing on a grave because they felt relieved of a burden. I have NO doubt that casey is cold and narcissistic enough to be happy for herself and never give a thought to her child who paid the price of her freedom.
JMO
BTW...I hope everyone has a great night, a safe night, and wakes up tomorrow to a bright and shining future that has yet to be written...even the Anthony family ( less Casey of course) has a chance to make a "clean start" by following through on their "Promise" to LE to finally come clean and fully cooperate.
It will be a new year and a new dawn.

[martha]

Does anyone have the song in the arms of the angle by sarah mc.? that is such a sweet song. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL AND I SEND MY LOVE TO ALL OF YOU AND THANS FOR BEING HERE FOR YOU HAVE ALL HELPED ME IN SO MANY WAY JMHO

[kaelieanne]

check this:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=346658

It won't allow me access. It says that I don't have sufficient privileges to access the page. Anyone know what that is all about? TIA

Annie

[101Spots]

I wish you all a happy, peaceful, and prosperous new year.

See you in '09.

'Night all.

[Oregongal]

She never reported her daughter missing. I for one, would like to see how the jury will get past that fact alone--JMO

Yep, yep, yep!!!
If I were the pros attorney, that would be my first words in the opening....
Ladies and gentlemen, 31 days.
Let that sentence hang for a few beats and go on from there.
31 days may become the next well remembered and talked about trial phrase as did 'if the glove don't fit...'

[Jeepers]

I am not hear to fuss with anyone over this case because I do not know what happened to sweet little caylee. I am so glad they found her. I had given up on anyone finding her. I do wish they had found her in aug when the mr first called in. I don;t have to worrie about the one that did this to her even if someone get off God will see that they or punished. My faith is strong. all we or doing here is just given our o.jmho

I agree with every word you said Martha. I am hoping you have a Happy New Year and that God blesses you in everyway.
Caylee will get her justice and Casey will get hers too!