Caylee Anthony Weds. 12/31 New Years Eve, part 1 [Archive] - Page 3

SavannahStar

12-31-2008, 11:40 AM

Lavenia, its not against the law to act like a bewildered moron, I mean would you be all calm and collected with media everywhere, and the realization that your only grandchild is probably dead at the hands of the disgusting person you raised? Who can honestly say they have prepped themselves for something like this? Cindy is not going to prison, I am sure she is in her own hell right now, the LE is not going to do anything to these people, its not like they held a family meeting and said, Lets find a way to get on the TV, Casey, you kill Caylee, hid her somewhere, and leave us little clues and we will move her body. Its not like they wanted any of this, or do you think they did?

And Happy New Year! Hope you have a great year!

:rose:

Wonderful post!!! :beer:

Dells

12-31-2008, 11:41 AM

The public memorial will be open to everyone. But, there will be some rules such as no back packs, no cell phones and no cameras

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=5F8E21F8EC8FF5E7420F0B77FA4D4EFA ?contentId=8162426&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

OMG they are still trying to control everything. whatever happend to having a memorial for the public and saying, thank you so much for caring about our granddaugher, it makes us feel so good to know she was loved, instead of NO PHONES, NO CAMERAS, NO BACK PACKS....NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

Geeze its not like they are going to have a pile of bones laying there for people to view and take pictures of. I imagine flowers and nice music and kind words.

It sounds to me like they want complete control of all the images of the memorial service. Maybe they are planning to give a TV show or magazine exclusive rights to those images?

MalloryCat

12-31-2008, 11:41 AM

What makes you believe that?
I thought it was obvious.

shelbar53

12-31-2008, 11:42 AM

I don't believe the tattoo was done in honor of Caylee. The tattoo is "Bella Vita" which is an Italian phrase meaning "Beautiful Life".
Her boyfriend at the time was Tony Lazarro, dare say you can't get much more Italian than that. I believe her tattoo was to signify her beautiful life with her new Italian Stallion boyfriend Lazarro now that Caylee was out of the picture, and in no way was to honor Caylee's memory. IMO

Yes, I agree with you, it was about her beautiful life with tony without caylee.

SandyO

12-31-2008, 11:43 AM

If the prosecution had enough evidence to convict before Caylee was found this would not cause much of a problem because they left the door open with the 2nd and 3rd charges of the indictment which could include an unknown accomplice. When they took the DP off the table they were basically saying that what evidence they had would not support a DP conviction.

JMO

We have a young mother inmate on death row in Arizona (Debra Milke) for her part in the murder of her young son, and I believe she had less of a hand in that murder than Casey did in Caylee's demise.

shelbar53

12-31-2008, 11:44 AM

It sounds to me like they want complete control of all the images of the memorial service. Maybe they are planning to give a TV show or magazine exclusive rights to those images?

yep and if casey is there "cha ching" jackpot

MissouriGMom

12-31-2008, 11:44 AM

I'll spill the beans since I brought it up the first time. Daisy chain was a very common term for a sexual act involving multiple people back in the day. I don't know if it's in use any more to describe that act.

Wow, Lavenia! I didn't know that. Back in what day are we talking about? I'll be 56 next month, so I go way back. :wink:

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 11:44 AM

YEP ITA! They knew from day one she was Dead. They were covering for casey. Now they are trying to cover their own AZZES. While they were lying for casey a 2 year old was rotting in a garbage bag! I say
he*l no . NO IMMUNITY!

True Happy but my point was. Casey was already going to trial for murder, and they were still BS'ing about the kidnapping. NOT asking for any immunity or even concerned w/it until the BODY was found. Granted the body being found kind of kills the kidnapping storyline, but why the "immunity" ??

sherdan

12-31-2008, 11:44 AM

Newbie posting here - so be kind :unsure:

I agree completely that Cindy and Geo never wanted this. I have no doubt they loved Caylee with all their hearts. But, that said, I have such a hard time with their attempts to cover up Casey's acts. As a very, very small example of what I mean ... Casey tells LE that she received a call on her cell from Caylee that day the police were informed in July. LE could find no record of that call. Cindy, however, not only backed up Caseys' claim (that she did recieve that call) but she stated ON NANCY GRACE in front of God and all that Casey DID get that phone call and Cindy, herself, had the phone records to prove it. BUT - she was also refusing to give those records to the police. Nancy Grace was practically begging Cindy to give those records to the police. In my opinion, if Cindy did indeed have those records (and we all know she didn't) then not giving them to police is obstruction of justice at the least. If she was lying to cover up for Casey then she should be hit with lying to LE. I feel sorry for Cindy - but that is absolutely no reason for her to go to the lengths she has to try to protect a murderer.

shelbar53

12-31-2008, 11:45 AM

I thought it was obvious.

the only thing obvious to me is that casey is a thief, liar and a murderer.

jammies

12-31-2008, 11:45 AM

Yes, I agree with you, it was about her beautiful life with tony without caylee.

Everytime I think of her getting that tattoo I get ill. It stood for HER life w/o her daughter. That and that alone should be enough to convict her of 1st degree murder.

Dells

12-31-2008, 11:45 AM

Well if it comes out that the A;s knew where the body was but said nothing then they should go to jail and if high profile attorney baez knew he should be disbarred.

To think they might have known, but let their own GD lay double bagged in some ditch like trash with duct tape is a crime if not legally then morally.

And I say NO immunity.

I agree w/you. If Baez and/or the Anthony's knew where Caylee's body was all along, then they should be shown no mercy at all. If that is true, then it is truly despicable.

eastside joe

12-31-2008, 11:46 AM

I thought it was obvious.

No, someone having the surname Lazarro or Berra or Garagiola or Lasorda or Rossi. To me that is an obvious Italian name. Casey Anthony, how do get Italian out of that? Just curious.

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 11:46 AM

I'm with you on this one. I think something was found near those remains or with those remains that links directly to them. I disagree that they are asking for immunity. They are begging and demanding immunity. And this speaks volumes.

We have to wait and see what and how this plays out but that's exactly how it looks to me..

shellzbi

12-31-2008, 11:47 AM

I just remembered the Broward Correctional Center, that is where Joyce Cohen is.

You could be right. I just have Dade County on the brain.

I'll keep thinking. As I'm posting I believe it is Broward County. Me Bad.

cloe23

12-31-2008, 11:48 AM

Normal people wouldn't, in a MILLION years, want the murderer at the funeral.

I think that the George and Cindy are attempting manipulate Casey by sending her a hidden signal that they are on her side. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if the defence team hasn't even told Casey about this, instructing her to not turn on the TV or read the paper. Here parents are trying to communicate with her via media, JMO.
If the defence is truly trying to deprogram her. I really can't wait to hear her defence, it is going to be messy. Since G&C are not appearing to be getting immunity now what will they do when Casey rolls on them?

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 11:49 AM

Just because the A's are asking for immunity doesn't mean it will be granted. What then? They continue on with lies? What is the deal? If they are cooperating with LE as their atty says, then they are telling the truth. What would be the need for immunity, right? But then I am pretty foggy today.

They know they did or know about something they need immunity for - otherwise why demand it, which is what their lawyer is doing - his statement about asking for immunity and not putting them (the A's) in a room with them til he gets it - very strong words in my opinion

Lavenia

12-31-2008, 11:49 AM

Wow, Lavenia! I didn't know that. Back in what day are we talking about? I'll be 56 next month, so I go way back. :wink:

LOL. I SAID I was a wild child! Back in the late 60's and 70's we used to use the term mostly to disparage someone's actions similar to a cluster ****. :ohmy:

shelbar53

12-31-2008, 11:49 AM

Begging? Demanding? Was that on tv? Do you know which show, cuz I missed it.

well they said they WONT talk without immunity.

and I thought casey was irish, thats why all the shamrock stuff

MalloryCat

12-31-2008, 11:50 AM

No, someone having the surname Lazarro or Berra or Garagiola or Lasorda or Rossi. To me that is an obvious Italian name. Casey Anthony, how do get Italian out of that? Just curious.

Because I have vision and can identify the coloring and features of people of Italian decent, thats how, being half myself. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. She was also sleeping with Tony Rusciano, I dont know about you but that sounds pretty Italian to me also, so I dont buy that it had to do with any man.

But if you want to argue that there is no way in the world the Anthonys are not Italian, be my guest.

marshmallow

12-31-2008, 11:50 AM

I'm still of two minds toward the Anthonys. I do have compassion for their loss of Caylee but I also feel they need to be held accountable for any lies/misleading/semitruths they put out there that caused the waste of LE manpower and resources. I hope there is some new law put into action that deals with families of suspects deliberately causing valuable resources and manhours to be wasted. They went out of their way to mislead and misstate, grief didn't do that....their want to protect Casey did.
Grief didn't cause any of their deceptive actions and words, they willfully chose to do those things and they should be held accountable. If not by law now then by new laws being made to keep other families of suspects from playing the same games the Anthonys have. Grief is one thing, what they've done is something else and not only did it hinder LE, it wasted valuable time and money. Every side show the Anthonys staged, every mislead, everything from thir little game of protect Casey took away from other familys and other victims.

and no, I do not think Casey should be at the funeral. Why waste even more manpower and money on this family? Casey caused CAylee's death and that's my reason #1. The State of Florida has put too much into the Anthony games as it is, resources that should have gone to other families who needed them. That's my reason #2. The Anthonys have played enough games, I say ....game over for them!

shelbar53

12-31-2008, 11:52 AM

I know that I am not in the majority when I say this, but at this point, I am so desperate to find out what happened to Caylee, that I will settle for semi-truths spewed by the Anthony's than to have to suffer through yet another psychic prediction, armchair detective theory, pundit position, or Leonard Padilla's "feelings". I would rather know a little bit about what happened and try to piece together the rest than to guess. As John Walsh would say, it's the not knowing that is so cruel.

Besides, I think that when the Anthony's are seeking immunity, it is so that they can publically say that they knew a long time ago that Caylee was dead and that they kept up the kidnapping ruse as a way to get Casey off. I don't think that the Anthony's are going to give us any information on Caylee or how it happened because at this point, and this is just my feelings but the vermin Anthony's are looking out for themselves at this point and whatever they say it's going to be about them saving themselves from arrest.

nope no deal, if they knew all along she was dead but still carried on about finding her alive then I want them held accountable for all the people looking for caylee. and then I want an account of what they did with the donations that were given to help find caylee.

but no, the low lifes of this country will get get away with it.

SandyO

12-31-2008, 11:52 AM

the only thing obvious to me is that casey is a thief, liar and a murderer.

A dangerous sociopath who has already ruined too many lives.

no1what

12-31-2008, 11:52 AM

yes it makes sense. I read another poster describing a flat land from the road in alittle bit ,then a ditch or gully to hold back rain water. they said they body might have been further in but with the flooding that occured at sometime it carried the bag to the ditch where it got wedged. and all the overgrowth, you had to be in the exact spot.

I bet casey told someone but by then it was 2 months later and trying to describe the spot was difficult to say the least. so the PI had a general idea but not close enough. I think anyone of us would have found it...we are so obssesed with this case...we would have kept on looking had we known it was in that general area.

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Can the LE determine the original body decomp site by the location of each of the bones found?

IMO it would seem that the greater majority of the bones would be found closest to the original site of where Casey dumped Caylees remains.

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 11:52 AM

Will you say the same if and when it's confirmed that Cindy knew as she perpetrated the missing live child hoax upon the public?

Do you fully understand the danger she was putting other children in as she exploited the tragic death of her grandchild?

I stand by my opinion that Cindy and George have been fully cognizant of Caylee's state since they stopped visitation and we know they aligned themselves with some of the lowest of low people masquerading as KID FINDERS....I am with Mark Klass on this one. It was a farce that exploited children in general. JMO.:angry:

Very well said, Candykisses!!!!!

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 11:53 AM

I think that the George and Cindy are attempting manipulate Casey by sending her a hidden signal that they are on her side. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if the defence team hasn't even told Casey about this, instructing her to not turn on the TV or read the paper. Here parents are trying to communicate with her via media, JMO.
If the defence is truly trying to deprogram her. I really can't wait to hear her defence, it is going to be messy. Since G&C are not appearing to be getting immunity now what will they do when Casey rolls on them?

Hey, Chloe, I think you hit the nail right on the head with that! I think this is now a battle over who will roll over on whom first.

For a while there, I thought they were sending Casey messages via the media too. And ofcourse, I am in agreement now that they are all fixin' to have to roll on each other...

dgfred

12-31-2008, 11:54 AM

Wasn't Mark Anthony a famous Italian?:thumbsup:

I was waiting for that response :biggrin: .

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 11:56 AM

trich

12-31-2008, 11:56 AM

You are probably right, however there must be some reason they took the DP off the table, I don't think it was because of the letter that the one attorney wote them.

JMO

personally I think life without parole is the best punishment for Casey.
I used to be an advocate of the DP but I have since changed my mind.
I think people that kill should have to live within the prison general population and suffer the indignities every day of their lives.
Casey is young and IMO it is fitting that she live a long time with all the other criminals.

Postergeist

12-31-2008, 11:56 AM

True Happy but my point was. Casey was already going to trial for murder, and they were still BS'ing about the kidnapping. NOT asking for any immunity or even concerned w/it until the BODY was found. Granted the body being found kind of kills the kidnapping storyline, but why the "immunity" ??

:thumbup: good point Tam! The family didn't seem too concerned when items were recovered from the Econ dive, or reports about little bones being found back then. There was no asking for immunity when independent searchers found clothing articles, makeup, etc. in JB Park.

No- it wasn't until reports came in about a child's skull being found near the Anthony home- LE wasn't even confirming the gender IRRC- it was days away from the bones being positively ID'd as those of little Caylee when we hear from this latest attorney.

I hope LE gets to the bottom of just how many hands played a part in the homicide, cover up and discarding of that sweet child and that all face justice.

imo

bluwaters

12-31-2008, 11:56 AM

I too am very skeptical but I have to admit that some of the things that this guy predicted that came to fruition were kind of unnerving. Especially what is unfolding now. He also predicted a kind of a "daisy chain" being exposed very shortly linking everyone up to Casey and/or Lee. Whether that be linear like 6 degrees of separation or in a big circle, remains to be seen, but let's just see what unfolds. I bet this guy is right.
Hi January!
I also read this psychic last night and bookmarked the site.
This man seems to be very knowledgeable and well informed and I think that his instincts seem sound. I do watch with a skeptical eye, however.
My thoughts on psychics is that some of us have different gifts and psychics have a sensitivity that most of us lack. I notice that the best ones use a great deal of logic and common sense which is a good thing.
One thing that I do look out for on a blog like that one is changing info after the fact. I know that this has happened on other psychics' sites.
I think that this board has discussed so many possible scenarios that whatever comes out at trial, or whatever actions are taken by the main players, it has been predicted or speculated already by someone here. I do mean players, as I think that this whole tragic case revolves around the actions of people who are acting out a part. Only, I don't think that Zanny wrote the script. :wink:

eastside joe

12-31-2008, 11:57 AM

But if you want to argue that there is no way in the world the Anthonys are not Italian, be my guest.

Say what??? That sentence doesn't even make sense, so no I do not want to argue that there is no way in the world the Anthony's are not Italian. I'm moving on. :wink:

SandyO

12-31-2008, 11:57 AM

You are probably right, however there must be some reason they took the DP off the table, I don't think it was because of the letter that the one attorney wote them.

JMO

Actually I don't understand the reasons for dropping the death penalty, or for not putting it back in now. I'm thinking back to the Scott Peterson case, and they didn't have a cause of death, or a confession, or a witness or many of the same things they don't have in this case. I am really not caring very much about it, however, as long as Casey stays in prison for the rest of her life.

RockStarGirl

12-31-2008, 11:58 AM

I don't believe the tattoo was done in honor of Caylee. The tattoo is "Bella Vita" which is an Italian phrase meaning "Beautiful Life".
Her boyfriend at the time was Tony Lazarro, dare say you can't get much more Italian than that. I believe her tattoo was to signify her beautiful life with her new Italian Stallion boyfriend Lazarro now that Caylee was out of the picture, and in no way was to honor Caylee's memory. IMO

Yes, this could definitely be the reason for the tatttoo also. I would not be surprised with this scenario either. IMO

shelbar53

12-31-2008, 11:58 AM

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Can the LE determine the original body decomp site by the location of each of the bones found?

IMO it would seem that the greater majority of the bones would be found closest to the original site of where Casey dumped Caylees remains.

im sure with all the different experts the FBI has they can tell alot of things.

norwood

12-31-2008, 11:59 AM

They know they did or know about something they need immunity for - otherwise why demand it, which is what their lawyer is doing - his statement about asking for immunity and not putting them (the A's) in a room with them til he gets it - very strong words in my opinion

I just heard that same thing on MSNBC that the Anthony's lawyer will not put them in the room with LE until they have immunity. There is non reason for them to not speak with LE unless they have knowledge of and/or participated in a crime. Speaks volumes to me.

nc1948

12-31-2008, 11:59 AM

I am still so dizzy with this cold (when does it go away?) that I can barely keep up here let alone look up the link. But I think that Casey immediately called or texted Amy as soon as she dropped the body off. Does anyone remember when that was? I think the gas cans with George was June 24.

Hope your cold goes away soon. Maybe one of our more knowledgable poster will have the answer. Sorry, when I go to the link thread, I totally get lost in reading something else, and forget what I was originally looking for.

happygert

12-31-2008, 12:00 PM

Ok Magnolia. Lets go w/this thought first...

Prior to the body being found. Casey was already awaiting trial for murder. However, Geo and Cindy were running around on tv carrying on a kidnapping storyline. Infact, the night before she was found. They are still doing this.. However, the minute her body was found. They hushed thier mouths real quick. Got themselves a defense lawyer who is NOW asking for IMMMUNITY... Now you think about this. How come they didn't ask for immunity when Casey was awaiting trial?? Yet are asking for it once the body was found?? Could it be, that something found w/the remains TIES THEM TO THAT SITE...??

Casey is on trial for murder....... No worries, go on LKL yack about kidnapping....

Body found: Oh Heck! Better get a good lawyer and ask for "immunnity" roll on the daughter. We are screwed now? The BODY being found was the only conclussion I can draw as to WHY we saw a 180.. and that's no coincidence..

That's what I have to say about that. So no love feast for me...

Yes They were covering for casey. While they were covering her AZZ they left a 2 year old to rot in a garbage bag. Now they are trying to cover their own AZZES. I say no IMMUNITY.let them rot in a jail cell. They either tell the truth and suffer their consequences or put their AZZES right beside casey and throw away the key.MO:cursing:

trich

12-31-2008, 12:00 PM

No. No show, honey. Just go and look at the links for the headlines of the newspaper reports right here on these threads. They all say the same thing "Anthony's refuse to cooperate with authorities unless they have full immunity". In my book that is being demanding. Begging is when the attorney comes on the tv and starts his sentence off with "my clients have done nothing wrong, but they would like immunity before I put them in a room with the police." In my book that is a lawyer on bended knee.

I take it you are an Anthony supporter? I hope that your gut instincts about this family turn out to be true, for your sake, because I have tasted crow in the past, and it isn't pretty.

Good new year to you!

My goodness the Anthonys have been taped telling lies and more lies to the LE.
Hiding evidence and telling mistruths.
All you had to do is to have watched the news concerning this case and listened and watched how they behaved.
You didn't need to see any particular show just read up and look at the facts.

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 12:00 PM

:thumbup: good point Tam! The family didn't seem too concerned when items were recovered from the Econ dive, or reports about little bones being found back then. There was no asking for immunity when independent searchers found clothing articles, makeup, etc. in JB Park.

No- it wasn't until reports came in about a child's skull being found near the Anthony home- LE wasn't even confirming the gender IRRC- it was days away from the bones being positively ID'd as those of little Caylee when we hear from this latest attorney.

I hope LE gets to the bottom of just how many hands played a part in the homicide, cover up and discarding of that sweet child and that all face justice.

imo

Happy New Years Eve Postie.. I agree I hope the FBI/LE have this wrapped up and no need to grant any "Immunity".. If they have done what I feel like they have done. I can't stand the thought of them getting away w/it...

I hope you don't jinx me again today.. You showed up yesterday and my darn internet went out right when you showed up...was down for several hours..
:wub: ya

shellzbi

12-31-2008, 12:01 PM

It sounds to me like they want complete control of all the images of the memorial service. Maybe they are planning to give a TV show or magazine exclusive rights to those images?

That's what it sure sounds like to me as well.

The Anthony's have always been about the money. What a shame.

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 12:01 PM

Happy New Years Eve Candy.. Good to see ya.

:thumbsup:

HAPPY NEW YEAR TAM!!!! and to all on here! I know that it is a little early, but going to spend it with my granddaughter this evening with a nice bottle of sparkling cider for her and MAYBE a little bubbly for hubby and me, depending on this flu bug. But anyway, I wish for you all a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR and the best in all your lives.

I pray that the Anthony's, if guilty, will get their fare share of the new year as well. I truly believe the sheriff when he said that he will be going after those who cost the State all the money and man hours and I think that he is builing a case, block by block! I wish him a Happy New Year and all that helped with this mess as well. THEY all deserve it!

jammies

12-31-2008, 12:02 PM

I think that the George and Cindy are attempting manipulate Casey by sending her a hidden signal that they are on her side. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if the defence team hasn't even told Casey about this, instructing her to not turn on the TV or read the paper. Here parents are trying to communicate with her via media, JMO.
If the defence is truly trying to deprogram her. I really can't wait to hear her defence, it is going to be messy. Since G&C are not appearing to be getting immunity now what will they do when Casey rolls on them?

All heck is gonna break loose in that family, cloe. I see them all turning on eachother.

Mimi428

12-31-2008, 12:02 PM

I think that the George and Cindy are attempting manipulate Casey by sending her a hidden signal that they are on her side. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if the defence team hasn't even told Casey about this, instructing her to not turn on the TV or read the paper. Here parents are trying to communicate with her via media, JMO.
If the defence is truly trying to deprogram her. I really can't wait to hear her defence, it is going to be messy. Since G&C are not appearing to be getting immunity now what will they do when Casey rolls on them?

<snipped>

There are 15 pages before your post that I haven't read much of, so I am sort of wandering around right now - but I'm confused about your post "the defense is truly trying to deprogram her". Can you clarify what you mean by that? TIA

shellzbi

12-31-2008, 12:03 PM

We have a young mother inmate on death row in Arizona (Debra Milke) for her part in the murder of her young son, and I believe she had less of a hand in that murder than Casey did in Caylee's demise.

I read about that case years ago.

She had her son killed for freedom and insurance money. A very small amount of ins.

bluwaters

12-31-2008, 12:04 PM

It sounds to me like they want complete control of all the images of the memorial service. Maybe they are planning to give a TV show or magazine exclusive rights to those images?
Shades of ANS' funeral? :cursing:

ETA: FWIW - I say skip the public memorial service. The public has a memorial at the site where Caylee's remains were found.
A public service is will be the means for the A's to garner sympathy, and maybe even earn another buck or two.
jmho

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 12:05 PM

Yes They were covering for casey. While they were covering her AZZ they left a 2 year old to rot in a garbage bag. Now they are trying to cover their own AZZES. I say no IMMUNITY.let them rot in a jail cell. They either tell the truth and suffer their consequences or put their AZZES right beside casey and throw away the key.MO:cursing:

HappyG...

Bring on the truth! It's time, IMHO.

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:06 PM

All heck is gonna break loose in that family, cloe. I see them all turning on eachother.

You know I've always thought that when this got to court we would find out that Casey turned on her whole family and that she has somehow pinned this on her brother or something and that is gonna be the "other half of the story" Baez wants so badly to tell to us.... IMO just another in the many theories floating around lol

Dells

12-31-2008, 12:06 PM

I can't either.

On the other hand, I do not believe there is going to be any arrests.

Do you believe that the Anthony's will be given immunity then? And do you think they will give information that could be damaging to Casey?

MissouriGMom

12-31-2008, 12:07 PM

Because I have vision and can identify the coloring and features of people of Italian decent, thats how, being half myself. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. She was also sleeping with Tony Rusciano, I dont know about you but that sounds pretty Italian to me also, so I dont buy that it had to do with any man.

But if you want to argue that there is no way in the world the Anthonys are not Italian, be my guest.

I assumed she was Italian, as well. My hubby is part Italian, and we have an Italian surname. I'm not going to post what it is because it's a very rare name. Now, what is Cindy's maiden name. It starts with a P and I think that it might be Italian, too. moo

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 12:07 PM

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:07 PM

Actually I don't understand the reasons for dropping the death penalty, or for not putting it back in now. I'm thinking back to the Scott Peterson case, and they didn't have a cause of death, or a confession, or a witness or many of the same things they don't have in this case. I am really not caring very much about it, however, as long as Casey stays in prison for the rest of her life.

Good afternoon. Not to worry, Casey will stay in prison for the rest of her life, and she's taking a lot of people down with her.

What a farce, what a circus! Follow the money. LOL.

SandyO

12-31-2008, 12:07 PM

I read about that case years ago.

She had her son killed for freedom and insurance money. A very small amount of ins.

Yes, and it was at Christmastime which made it even sadder! The little boy thought he was going to see Santa at the mall. The mother, Debra Milke, didn't actually do the murder herself --- a couple of half-wit friends of hers did it. In this case the murder was at Casey's own hands, which is the very worst.

JConnolly

12-31-2008, 12:07 PM

I was totally sympathetic to George and Cindy. I am a grandmother and when this was first broadcast I cried for them. Unfortunately it was not long before Cindy opened her mouth and changed by opinion. The first thing I remember her saying was after her daughter had not reported her grandaughter missing for 30 days Cindy said that we would vote Casey Mother of the Year. That is the first HUH moment I can remember.

If-If-If they had only shown Caylees picture and begged the kidnappers to please return her. Or even once thanked all the people who were searching for her instead of calling everyone maggots and thieves. Or said we just cannot believe our daughter would do this, instead of blaming Amy, Jess, and everyone else that has come in contact with them.

Yes, I was sympathetic to George and Cindy in the beginning. Now-I have nothing but contempt for them and the way they have covered, lied, accused, distorted, mislead to cover for Casey. I for one think they have broken the law. If they have, I hope they are prosecuted. If they have not, then so be it.
...this is as far as I've read so far...

nc1948 -- What a great post! I couldn't agree more with everything you've said here. You hit the nail on the head with, "Or said we just cannot believe our daughter would do this, instead of blaming Amy, Jess, and everyone else that has come in contact with them."

Do you suppose that by "admitting" their "disbelief" that their daughter could do this would, in their mind, be some sort of -- oh I don't know -- some sort of "taking blame" for lack of a better phrase... and that is something that both of them are too much like their daughter (narcissism) ... ??

All I know for sure is that they are not acting like us *normal* ppl would! Seems to me, this entire family craves the spotlight and believes in the old (celebrity) saying, "No press is bad press..."

On yesterday's thread, (I think lol) everyone was talking about a parents unconditional love for their children... that's how/why the A's can continue to support their daughter... well, I'll say again what I said yesterday... "Too bad that trait didn't filter down to Casey for HER daughter...":crying:

JC

daHawg

12-31-2008, 12:08 PM

Why do I get the image of Howie Mandel in my head re: the A's attorney.

DEAL or NO DEAL?

I sure hope the Prosecutor's office responds with....

NO DEAL!

dgfred

12-31-2008, 12:09 PM

I agree with you.

Immunity doesn't mean that Cindy and George will NOW speak the truth.

If they are given immunity, they could spin the truth, yet not be eligible to be charged.

I am against them having any immunity.

They need to lay in the bed that they have made.

I agree 100%. :thumbsup:

MalloryCat

12-31-2008, 12:09 PM

Shades of ANS' funeral? :cursing:

ETA: FWIW - I say skip the public memorial service. The public has a memorial at the site where Caylee's remains were found.
A public service is will be the means for the A's to garner sympathy, and maybe even earn another buck or two.
jmho

Are you talking about that model Anna Nicole? Didn't her mother make money off laying on her grandchilds grave, a kid she hadn't seen in a decade? Sorry if i remember that wrong.

I sure hope we dont see that here.

jmo

GumShoeJoe

12-31-2008, 12:09 PM

for me it was when Cindy told Greta not to ask her stoopid questions. I thought...huh? She's giving you national exposure and asking pertinent questions like why didn't the Mother of the Year ever report her child missing.... was a HUGE turn off. Then when the pizza lying started...

This kind of behavior by her on the cable news shows AND (if I remember correctly) the morning broadcast news shows is what got me interested in this story to begin with. I remember sitting at home one morning and watching some really angry lady yelling at a reporter to "ask the right questions" and I thought: wth is this all about?

It is my earliest recollection of this case.

jmo

Daffodil

12-31-2008, 12:10 PM

casey hasnt been seen by the public in months, can you just imagine how much money those exclusive videos/pics of casey at the private funeral will bring?

Oh my gosh, that is why Cindy wants her there. It now makes sense to me.

frances1

12-31-2008, 12:10 PM

I assumed she was Italian, as well. My hubby is part Italian, and we have an Italian surname. I'm not going to post what it is because it's a very rare name. Now, what is Cindy's maiden name. It starts with a P and I think that it might be Italian, too. moo

Ciney's maiden name is Plesea, and if you google it, it appears to be of Romanian origin.

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:11 PM

Why do I get the image of Howie Mandel in my head re: the A's attorney.

DEAL or NO DEAL?

I sure hope the Prosecutor's office responds with....

NO DEAL!

No one should get a deal. They are ALL responsible for the lies and cover-up of this fiasco they created. Take 'em all down!

MalloryCat

12-31-2008, 12:11 PM

I assumed she was Italian, as well. My hubby is part Italian, and we have an Italian surname. I'm not going to post what it is because it's a very rare name. Now, what is Cindy's maiden name. It starts with a P and I think that it might be Italian, too. moo

Cindys maiden name is Plesea, and I cant find any origin of that.....

bluwaters

12-31-2008, 12:12 PM

Florida Department of Corrections
http://www.dc.state.fl.us/

This site will tell you all about the facilities in Florida.

nc1948

12-31-2008, 12:12 PM

I'm with you on this one. I think something was found near those remains or with those remains that links directly to them. I disagree that they are asking for immunity. They are begging and demanding immunity. And this speaks volumes.

I do not think we have heard a response from prosecution as to the begging for immunity. I hope the prosecution just totally ignores them.

smileyjoe

12-31-2008, 12:12 PM

This kind of behavior by her on the cable news shows AND (if I remember correctly) the morning broadcast news shows is what got me interested in this story to begin with. I remember sitting at home one morning and watching some really angry lady yelling at a reporter to "ask the right questions" and I thought: wth is this all about?

It is my earliest recollection of this case.

jmo

YES, I was on vacation and caught that episode too. I thought, hmmmmmmmmm, got to look in to this.

:thumbup:

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:12 PM

Oh no, I don't see myself as an Anthony supporter. I just didn't see that the statement by their attorney rises to the begging and demanding level. Immunity happens all over the country, every day, with BOTH sides having something to gain.

At 6 p.m. WESH-Channel 2 then turned to the Caylee Anthony saga. Bob Kealing reported that the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony says they will cooperate in daughter Casey’s prosecution — “only if their words aren’t used against them.”

Attorney Brad Conway told Kealing, “We’ve discussed immunity, and I won’t put them in a room until I get it.”

Private detective Dominic Casey, who protected Casey Anthony and worked for her attorney Jose Baez, is willing to talk to investigators, Kealing reported. Casey Anthony is charged with her child’s murder.

Conway told Kealing that Casey Anthony’s team has not completed a second autopsy on the toddler and so no announcement on a funeral can be made.

Pretty strong statements from a lawyer with clients that have NOTHING to hide IMO

Daffodil

12-31-2008, 12:12 PM

I heard Leonard Padilla use the term 'Daisy Chain' a few times last night. Just doesn't seem appropriate in this sense for obvious reasons.

I'm trying to figure out what "daisy chain" could mean in this case. I think LP knows a lot about this case. I think he gets his info from LE. I think they feed him info to talk about on TV so it will let all the A's know what else LE knows, a bit at a time. I also think NG knows the whole truth also and is working with LE.

SandyO

12-31-2008, 12:12 PM

I didn't follow that case too much, but didn't LE have evidence of Laci's blood in SP's boat and a witness that helped him move the blue barrel.

JMO

I believe it was a hair of Laci's in the boat (and I think the blue barrell moving is another case all together) but in this case there is ample evidence, even if you consider only the proof of decomp in the trunk of the car.

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:12 PM

Oh my gosh, that is why Cindy wants her there. It now makes sense to me.

I disagree. They are still in the denial phase, or else, they know something. No way, no how should someone charged with murder be allowed at that person's funeral. JMO.

Presumed innocent? Yeah, right. If she's innocent I'm Santa Claus.

happygert

12-31-2008, 12:13 PM

nope no deal, if they knew all along she was dead but still carried on about finding her alive then I want them held accountable for all the people looking for caylee. and then I want an account of what they did with the donations that were given to help find caylee.

but no, the low lifes of this country will get get away with it.

As far as the donations go shelbar imo they should be charged with fraud. They knew she was dead the mintue they got the car..I'm not so sure they didnt know where casey threw her at either. The donations were a easy way for them to make money.. IMO They never did one search. so exactly what did they do with the money? They went on paid interviews then they would go to so "called sightings".. at the expense of ones that they were doing the interviews for.
Not working for almost 7 months now. Paying attorneys, PI's investigators, ALL THEIR BILLS. WITH NO INCOME!!

Well there is other money coming in money THEY MADE OFF OF CAYLEE!
Selling interviews, pictures and videos,, IMO THIS IS ALSO FRAUD!
Selling these as a MISSING CHILD all the while knowing she was a DEAD CHILD!

AZCHARGED

12-31-2008, 12:13 PM

Obstruction of justice comes to mind.

MissouriGMom

12-31-2008, 12:15 PM

Ciney's maiden name is Plesea, and if you google it, it appears to be of Romanian origin.

Thanks frances! I was racking my brain trying to remember.

callmetree

12-31-2008, 12:16 PM

just wanted to tell you all to have a safe and happy new years!:biggrin:

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 12:16 PM

As far as the donations go shelbar imo they should be charged with fraud. They knew she was dead the mintue they got the car..I'm not so sure they didnt know where casey threw her at either. The donations were a easy way for them to make money.. IMO They never did one search. so exactly what did they do with the money? They went on paid interviews then they would go to so "called sightings".. at the expense of ones that they were doing the interviews for.
Not working for almost 7 months now. Paying attorneys, PI's investigators, ALL THEIR BILLS. WITH NO INCOME!!

Well there is other money coming in money THEY MADE OFF OF CAYLEE!
Selling interviews, pictures and videos,, IMO THIS IS ALSO FRAUD!
Selling these as a MISSING CHILD all the while knowing she was a DEAD CHILD!

Exactly! Remember when they wanted some of the donations to be gift cards to like, Target and so on????? WTH?

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:16 PM

I'm trying to figure out what "daisy chain" could mean in this case. I think LP knows a lot about this case. I think he gets his info from LE. I think they feed him info to talk about on TV so it will let all the A's know what else LE knows, a bit at a time. I also think NG knows the whole truth also and is working with LE.

I'm trying to figure out the daisy chain thing myself. Never heard that term used either. I think it's kind of like connecting the dots. Frankly, a lot of dots have not been connected yet.

So, you have Lee doing his own "searches" and the Anthony's hiring PIs who take videos of a place where Caylee ISN'T. Yep, they are all in this up to their eyeballs.

Thankfully, the Anthony's have finally shut their mouths because they have done nothing more than create confusion and obstructed justice. All of them. JMO.

dgfred

12-31-2008, 12:17 PM

There is NO way they are still in denial.

Right. More like working every possible angle :angry: .

Dells

12-31-2008, 12:17 PM

Thanks, I am trying to keep up here and revisit links at the same time. Yep, he does need to STHU and get lawyered up!

Well everyone else that has had contact w/Casey has a lawyer, so it really would not surprise me if he already has one. What a mess that girl has created...

Lavenia

12-31-2008, 12:18 PM

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 12:18 PM

Right. More like working every possible angle :angry: .

Welcome to the boards, dgfred! Loved that statement.

Mimi428

12-31-2008, 12:18 PM

nope no deal, if they knew all along she was dead but still carried on about finding her alive then I want them held accountable for all the people looking for caylee. and then I want an account of what they did with the donations that were given to help find caylee.

but no, the low lifes of this country will get get away with it.

Everyone posts about them being 'held accountable', but I have no clue what that means to any particular person.

I suppose there may be some way to get a documentation of how the donations were spent, but even with that knowledge & even if we found out they spent it on things you & I wouldn't agree with - what can be done about it? That is water under the bridge.

Unless there is concrete, unassailable evidence that any of them were in the presence of the child's dead boy - how would you be able to prove they "knew" she was dead? And who would you prove it TO?

I'm not a bit happy at some of the actions they have taken & the words they have spoken, but when it comes to being behind bars, I want the inmates to be people who are pretty much menaces to society. Like CASEY. I'm sure we will find out much more as time goes on, but right now I don't think Cindy, George or Lee fall into that group.

JMO

Lavenia

12-31-2008, 12:19 PM

just wanted to tell you all to have a safe and happy new years!:biggrin:

You too, tree!

shellzbi

12-31-2008, 12:19 PM

IMO- the prosecution has enough to go on right now. The information from the Anthonys is not needed and I am sure many in authority decided that the input from the A's was not trustworthy.

I agree if the state can charge her they have enough for a conviction.

I really don't want to hear anything the A's have to say.

I have been waiting since July. To late at this point.

They have lost my attention. IMO.

happygert

12-31-2008, 12:19 PM

Does George not have any family? i just wanted to know because I have not seen any conversations from his relatives.

Yes he has family his parents are still alive he has I think 2 sisters not sure if he has any brothers

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:19 PM

There is NO way they are still in denial.

I think they are. If they aren't in denial, then they know what happened from the get go, and they are accomplices. JMO. Which would you want to be? In denial, or an accomplice?

bluwaters

12-31-2008, 12:19 PM

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 12:19 PM

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 12:19 PM

HAPPY NEW YEAR TAM!!!! and to all on here! I know that it is a little early, but going to spend it with my granddaughter this evening with a nice bottle of sparkling cider for her and MAYBE a little bubbly for hubby and me, depending on this flu bug. But anyway, I wish for you all a VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR and the best in all your lives.

I pray that the Anthony's, if guilty, will get their fare share of the new year as well. I truly believe the sheriff when he said that he will be going after those who cost the State all the money and man hours and I think that he is builing a case, block by block! I wish him a Happy New Year and all that helped with this mess as well. THEY all deserve it!

Happy New Year Spirit...

Not the flu, so sorry. Hope you get better..

The best of the best is working this case. If the A's have truly used this babies death to concoct a scam/fraud and lined their pockets in her name. I just don't think we can just grant them "immunity" and go on as though this is Ok. Because it's not. Not to me it isn't... I might be wrong Spirit. In my heart, I truly would not say this if I didn't truly believe this is what they have done. As it is truly the sickest thing I can imagine. A double Whammy if you will. Caylee's death is bad enough.. Making money off her knowing she is gone, makes me madder than I can even tell ya... I could understand them standing by thier daughter. Hiring her lawyers and helping as best they could, I can understand. It's crossing the lines and exploiting the kidnapping under false pretenses that makes me so dang mad. So many real cases out there, and doing this would harm so many families in the future...

shellzbi

12-31-2008, 12:20 PM

just wanted to tell you all to have a safe and happy new years!:biggrin:

Same to you and yours. Shellzbi.

happygert

12-31-2008, 12:20 PM

Cursing is just as offensive even when you substitute one letter for another. The intent is the same.

They couldn't be responsible for anyone rotting in a garbage bag, if they didn't know she was.

OH Please....

a9arose

12-31-2008, 12:20 PM

Snipped for space....

Thankfully, the Anthony's have finally shut their mouths because they have done nothing more than create confusion and obstructed justice. All of them. JMO.

I haven't posted much on the Caylee case lately due to some family issues we have been having here....but I have still been trying to keep up with you all.

I am starting to think that this is exactly what they have wanted to do from the beginning....create confusion. If Casey gets off, it will have been brilliant on their parts.

Has anyone seen this video that the PI says shows that Caylee isn't in the spot where she was found when he was there?

Dells

12-31-2008, 12:20 PM

I wish they would create a Caylee's Law making it a felony for not reporting a missing toddler .....

I hope they do too.

bluwaters

12-31-2008, 12:20 PM

You are probably right, however there must be some reason they took the DP off the table, I don't think it was because of the letter that the one attorney wote them.

JMO
I think it was because they did not have the body. Now they do. The DP could show up again.
Personally, I oppose the DP, but I would not mind it being used as a bargaining tool in this case.
jmho

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 12:22 PM

Oh but Spirit honey, that was just so they could purchase water and snacks for the searchers. :rolleyes:

OOOOPS! Forgot all about that! Thank you! LMAO!

cloe23

12-31-2008, 12:22 PM

<snipped>

There are 15 pages before your post that I haven't read much of, so I am sort of wandering around right now - but I'm confused about your post "the defense is truly trying to deprogram her". Can you clarify what you mean by that? TIA

Nothing really, just a personal theory.(I change my mind a lot but this one still sticks. It explain why Caylee has not put anyone on her guest list a the county. I would do it if I was her defence.
ETA I hope I said IF the defence it truly trying to deprogram her.

daHawg

12-31-2008, 12:22 PM

I think they are. If they aren't in denial, then they know what happened from the get go, and they are accomplices. JMO. Which would you want to be? In denial, or an accomplice?

Being in denial they wouldn't need immunity, being an accomplice....:rolleyes:

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 12:22 PM

Wasn't Mark Anthony a famous Italian?:thumbsup:
He's a espanic singer, no? He's married to Jennifer Lopez. Is that the person your are referring to?

MalloryCat

12-31-2008, 12:24 PM

martha

12-31-2008, 12:24 PM

Good afternoon. Not to worry, Casey will stay in prison for the rest of her life, and she's taking a lot of people down with her.

What a farce, what a circus! Follow the money. LOL. If casey did kill caylee I so hope you or right and she never gets out of prison for the rest of her life and if any of the a;s helped her they should be punished too. I can;t stand to look at a picture of casey she looks evil. She has not showed in anyway that she loved caylee,. I do truley believe c and g loved caylee but they or now putting casey about caylee. jmho

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:25 PM

Does George not have any family? i just wanted to know because I have not seen any conversations from his relatives.

He talks of going to visit his ailing parents with Cindy right before all this happens - I don't remember if they went or were gonna go and his brother recentely said this from youngston ohio:

http://kissmeimabbw.newsvine.com/_news/2008/12/22/2239444-caylee-anthonys-family-mourns

His family has not taken part in the circus of this thus far

IMO

Hey Paula

12-31-2008, 12:25 PM

Because I have vision and can identify the coloring and features of people of Italian decent, thats how, being half myself. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. She was also sleeping with Tony Rusciano, I dont know about you but that sounds pretty Italian to me also, so I dont buy that it had to do with any man.

But if you want to argue that there is no way in the world the Anthonys are not Italian, be my guest.

I'm 100% Italian (Sicilian) and I must say that Cindy's father, Alex, (I have an Italian friend named Alex) looks very Italian, and the surname Plesea could certainly be of that ethnicity. I haven't seen pics of Cindy's Mom, but the name Shirley isn't one I associate with Italian women.

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:25 PM

Snipped for space....

I haven't posted much on the Caylee case lately due to some family issues we have been having here....but I have still been trying to keep up with you all.

I am starting to think that this is exactly what they have wanted to do from the beginning....create confusion. If Casey gets off, it will have been brilliant on their parts.

Has anyone seen this video that the PI says shows that Caylee isn't in the spot where she was found when he was there?FBI has it, according to Lenny. More smoke and mirrors on the part of defense.

It's unfortunate, IMO, that potential jurors aren't familiar with the spin defense can put on things. The defense team is surely going to make money off this case.

Unfortunately many of us who know their backgrounds, know what they are up to. I'd love to see their e-mails and cell phone records, including what was said to whom. JMO.

ETA: Attorney client privilege, so I guess that won't work.

shelbar53

12-31-2008, 12:27 PM

As far as the donations go shelbar imo they should be charged with fraud. They knew she was dead the mintue they got the car..I'm not so sure they didnt know where casey threw her at either. The donations were a easy way for them to make money.. IMO They never did one search. so exactly what did they do with the money? They went on paid interviews then they would go to so "called sightings".. at the expense of ones that they were doing the interviews for.
Not working for almost 7 months now. Paying attorneys, PI's investigators, ALL THEIR BILLS. WITH NO INCOME!!

Well there is other money coming in money THEY MADE OFF OF CAYLEE!
Selling interviews, pictures and videos,, IMO THIS IS ALSO FRAUD!
Selling these as a MISSING CHILD all the while knowing she was a DEAD CHILD!

Oh I agree. Fraud should be checked into along with all the laws they broke.

there should be a new law steming from this making it a crime to cover up a murder, collecting money under false pretenses plus other things they did and call it "The Odeious Anthony law"

trich

12-31-2008, 12:28 PM

[QUOTE God was on NG? Really?

QUOTE]

God is everywhere !

MalloryCat

12-31-2008, 12:28 PM

I'm 100% Italian (Sicilian) and I must say that Cindy's father, Alex, (I have an Italian friend named Alex) looks very Italian, and the surname Plesea could certainly be of that ethnicity. I haven't seen pics of Cindy's Mom, but the name Shirley isn't one I associate with Italian women.

Yes! In fact I thought the grandfather in the nursing home was Georges father for the longest time because he looks so Italian, so very strong possibility Cindy is also.

jmo

BANJO GRANNY

12-31-2008, 12:28 PM

I didn't know that...:blushing:

I did not know that either, back in my day a daisey chain was a neacklace we made while playing outside in the yards, my how things have changed, damm i'm old.

:rose:FOR BABY CAYLEE
REST IN PEACE SWEETIE
JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED FOR YOU SOON

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:28 PM

Oh I agree. Fraud should be checked into along with all the laws they broke.

there should be a new law steming from this making it a crime to cover up a murder, collecting money under false pretenses plus other things they did and call it "The Odeious Anthony law"

It is a law already.

Who wants to bet on who pleads the 5th?

Postergeist

12-31-2008, 12:29 PM

Happy New Years Eve Postie.. I agree I hope the FBI/LE have this wrapped up and no need to grant any "Immunity".. If they have done what I feel like they have done. I can't stand the thought of them getting away w/it...

I hope you don't jinx me again today.. You showed up yesterday and my darn internet went out right when you showed up...was down for several hours..
:wub: ya

Happy NY's Eve to you as well hon! I too hope that they do have this wrapped up and that no one gets a bye that may have had a hand in a cover up or aiding in a criminal act or with disregard to human remains.

(I hope your internet stays up too- I'm sitting here bummed that our cable system will likely lose 20 ch. due to the feud between Viacom and the cable providers.) :cursing:

I keep thinking back how the Anthonys were so against all the ground searches for remains- the treatment of Tim Miller and TES- the insistence of all the faux sightings- the comments made on how she doesn't believe in science...

then the jail calls of "she's close" - "look at places familiar to our family"...since none of them had met the "babysitter" then it couldn't be familiar to the faux nanny.

And whose to say that Cindy was being protective of those receipts NOT because of what Casey had charged on her JCP card- but what Cindy HERSELF may have purchased on the JCP card that she never wanted LE to see!!!

:sneaky:

imo

SwFlorida

12-31-2008, 12:29 PM

Does George not have any family? i just wanted to know because I have not seen any conversations from his relatives.
IIRC George's parents live in Ft Myers. Just a few hours away. Either CA or GA has some kin living in Naples Fl also.

trich

12-31-2008, 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=NYGalPal;12598283]

God was on NG? Really? snipped.

QUOTE]

God is everywhere!

shelbar53

12-31-2008, 12:30 PM

It is a law already.

Who wants to bet on who pleads the 5th?

could have fooled me. thats my point, they should be charged.

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:30 PM

Hi Dunnie! Happy New Year!

"ACCORDING TO LENNY" Thats going to be the next B Movie or Miserable Miniseries to hit the TV!

I liked it last night when he described his own search at the Econ River a "fiasco".

I think his heart is in the right place, but he's just way out of his league on this one. JMO.

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:31 PM

Because I have vision and can identify the coloring and features of people of Italian decent, thats how, being half myself. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. She was also sleeping with Tony Rusciano, I dont know about you but that sounds pretty Italian to me also, so I dont buy that it had to do with any man.

But if you want to argue that there is no way in the world the Anthonys are not Italian, be my guest.

Anyone can go back and read the IM between Rusciano (Nyitaliano) he was Italian and she talks about her temper coming from her Italian Mother's side of the family... IIRC

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 12:31 PM

[QUOTE God was on NG? Really?

QUOTE]

God is everywhere !He wasn't with Caylee when she needed him. No, he is not everywhere. It's impossible.

SandyO

12-31-2008, 12:31 PM

IIRC George's parents live in Ft Myers. Just a few hours away. Either CA or GA has some kin living in Naples Fl also.

Yes, George stated in his interview with LE that he went to live with his parents in Ft. Myers when he and Cindy were separated. I think they're all originally from Ohio and still have some family there.

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 12:32 PM

Only snipped cuz we have to.

I could understand them standing by thier daughter. Hiring her lawyers and helping as best they could, I can understand. It's crossing the lines and exploiting the kidnapping under false pretenses that makes me so dang mad. So many real cases out there, and doing this would harm so many families in the future...

Great post, Tam! I am right there with you! I would have sympathized in a New York SECOND for those people had they not have shown their true colors VERY early on. In my mind and opinion, they did and I hope that if there is enough evidence, they should have to pay the price.

This little baby did nothing wrong. She was an innocent bystander in mess of a family and SHE paid the ultimate price for what they have done. Makes me so sick to my stomach! I do not remember EVER being as angry as I am right now (with this family that is, not with life like some psychiatrist wannabe poster thought I was). lol! I was angry with the other cases such as Natalie Holloway, Lacie and Conner Peterson, Stacey and Kathleen Peterson and so on, but never have I seen or heard such a mess and such horrible lies. This family puts the criminal in these other cases to shame, and that is almost IMPOSSIBLE to do, or so I thought!

To top it off, I think that Baez is as much a liar as the rest of them. I know that he has a job to do, but he is saying chit like "Casey was so distraught she had to be sedated"! Yeah, and I see that buying chicken cup-o-soup, beef sticks and m&m's just may help, too, right? If that were my daughter, I would have to be sedated every single solitary day. I would hardly be able to make it through a minute. The same as if it were my granddaughter.

NUTS I tell ya! NUTS!

WHEW! Got that off my chest! Okay, carry on. Nothing to see here. LOL!

Mimi428

12-31-2008, 12:33 PM

Nothing really, just a personal theory.(I change my mind a lot but this one still sticks. It explain why Caylee has not put anyone on her guest list a the county. I would do it if I was her defence.
ETA I hope I said IF the defence it truly trying to deprogram her.

I guess I'm trying to figure out what you think she is programmed for in the first place - that she would need deprogramming from. Does that make sense?

I think Casey's visitor list is blank because of no other reason than the state of Florida has laws which allow every last visit & conversation to not only be taped - but to be released to the media. If the media knows Casey has a visit or a phone call - they can demand that those things be released under the open records act as it applies in Florida.

So...knowing that, Baez made the strategic decision that there will be NOTHING for the jail to release on his client. That's it. That's all of it. Nothing more, nothing less. He just does not want anything that his client says to be taped & then shown to the public (or anyone else, like the DA, for example).

I think it makes perfect sense for Baez to do that. I'm surprised that Casey agrees to it, though.

JMO

nc1948

12-31-2008, 12:33 PM

...this is as far as I've read so far...

nc1948 -- What a great post! I couldn't agree more with everything you've said here. You hit the nail on the head with, "Or said we just cannot believe our daughter would do this, instead of blaming Amy, Jess, and everyone else that has come in contact with them."

Do you suppose that by "admitting" their "disbelief" that their daughter could do this would, in their mind, be some sort of -- oh I don't know -- some sort of "taking blame" for lack of a better phrase... and that is something that both of them are too much like their daughter (narcissism) ... ??

All I know for sure is that they are not acting like us *normal* ppl would! Seems to me, this entire family craves the spotlight and believes in the old (celebrity) saying, "No press is bad press..."

On yesterday's thread, (I think lol) everyone was talking about a parents unconditional love for their children... that's how/why the A's can continue to support their daughter... well, I'll say again what I said yesterday... "Too bad that trait didn't filter down to Casey for HER daughter...":crying:

JC

There is such a huge difference in supporting/ loving your child, and lying/accusing others, mistruths, covering up for your child. With all of Cindylying to cover up for Casey, I can't help but wonder how many times when she was a child others took the blame for things she did. I also understand completely the statement in 911 call about "why do they want to talk to me". Yes, why, Cindy has always taken care of everything for her. She has never had to answer for herself. So why now does her Mother expect her to answer, Cindy has never let her answer before.

Regina.Lampert

12-31-2008, 12:33 PM

I'm sure Caylee's grandparents who loved her, cared for her, played with her, read to her, and pretty much raised her are grieving more and hurting more than any of us who never had the chance to meet Caylee.

There's no doubt in my mind that they loved her very much.

Depends on one's definition of love I guess. I think cynthia and george should have made absolutely sure that Caylee was being taken care of by casey anthony when they weren't around. IMO, they failed to do this......miserably.

They knew what kind of female they had on their hands, from early on imo. They knew she lied, cheated and was a thief and still they did nothing but cover up for her.

The latest incident being her theft from her grandparents assisted living bank account. Just think about that for moment. What kind of degenerate does something like that? Mrs. Plesea by her own account wanted casey anthony prosecuted, but cynthia leapt into the breach and once again covered for her.

Who paid for this folly? Caylee Anthony that's who. These people did not show "love" for Caylee, not in my mind.

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 12:34 PM

I'm 100% Italian (Sicilian) and I must say that Cindy's father, Alex, (I have an Italian friend named Alex) looks very Italian, and the surname Plesea could certainly be of that ethnicity. I haven't seen pics of Cindy's Mom, but the name Shirley isn't one I associate with Italian women.

George is certainly italian....as for Cindy...she might be irish, not for sure...

Italian names usually end in A,E,I,O,U and sometimes Y....

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:34 PM

IIRC George's parents live in Ft Myers. Just a few hours away. Either CA or GA has some kin living in Naples Fl also.

I don't get the point of this discussion, and why it's relevant. What am I missing. Who cares where George's family lives? JMO.

Carry on, don't mean to be mean. But why waste the bandwith?

Lavenia

12-31-2008, 12:34 PM

He wasn't with Caylee when she needed him. No, he is not everywhere. It's impossible.

Oh man, you didn't think there is enough to debate and get angry over here? :blink:

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:34 PM

Yes, George stated in his interview with LE that he went to live with his parents in Ft. Myers when he and Cindy were separated. I think they're all originally from Ohio and still have some family there.

Brother / Youngston Ohio - doesn't really say that it is George or Cindy's Brother tho - We all know Cindy's Brother Rick from Fl but I think she also has another brother - but I'm pretty sure this is George's bro: imo imo

http://kissmeimabbw.newsvine.com/_news/2008/12/22/2239444-caylee-anthonys-family-mourns

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 12:35 PM

Happy NY's Eve to you as well hon! I too hope that they do have this wrapped up and that no one gets a bye that may have had a hand in a cover up or aiding in a criminal act or with disregard to human remains.

(I hope your internet stays up too- I'm sitting here bummed that our cable system will likely lose 20 ch. due to the feud between Viacom and the cable providers.) :cursing:

I keep thinking back how the Anthonys were so against all the ground searches for remains- the treatment of Tim Miller and TES- the insistence of all the faux sightings- the comments made on how she doesn't believe in science...

then the jail calls of "she's close" - "look at places familiar to our family"...since none of them had met the "babysitter" then it couldn't be familiar to the faux nanny.

And whose to say that Cindy was being protective of those receipts NOT because of what Casey had charged on her JCP card- but what Cindy HERSELF may have purchased on the JCP card that she never wanted LE to see!!!

:sneaky:

imo

Hi my Postie...

Girl, I am so afraid that when the truth rolls out. We are all going to be sitting here throwing up. This is bad. I just feel this is so bad..

Sorry you are losing a channel. I never know what is going on w/the networks. I really don't watch to much tv anymore.. Although, i'll be glad when our show comes back!

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 12:35 PM

Depends on one's definition of love I guess. I think cynthia and george should have made absolutely sure that Caylee was being taken care of by casey anthony when they weren't around. IMO, they failed to do this......miserably.

They knew what kind of female they had on their hands, from early on imo. They knew she lied, cheated and was a thief and still they did nothing but cover up for her.

The latest incident being her theft from her grandparents assisted living bank account. Just think about that for moment. What kind of degenerate does something like that? Mrs. Plesea by her own account wanted casey anthony prosecuted, but cynthia leapt into the breach and once again covered for her.

Who paid for this folly? Caylee Anthony that's who. These people did not show "love" for Caylee, not in my mind.

ITA They didn't show love for Caylee and still haven't. imo

5boxersmom

12-31-2008, 12:35 PM

Happy New Year Everyone. :biggrin:

Lomar, George's BIL talked to a reporter in Ohio. I can't remember his name. Eddie something.

AMS

12-31-2008, 12:35 PM

Lawyer: Caylee Anthony's grandparents need immunity

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TFDLD9KV4RQ95TQ8A

Yikes! Read some of the comments posted after this article.

Mandysmom

12-31-2008, 12:35 PM

First of all, I'm not sure requesting that Casey attend the funeral says that she did not kill Caylee, that kidnappers did.

Secondly, whatever it is, I don't see it as a good public relations move since no one is impressed by it.

I'm sure they know, as well as we know, that there is NOTHING the Anthonys could do to garner sympathy or compassion toward them.

I think that requesting that she attend does send the message that they don't believe she killed Caylee.

I have compassion and sympathy for them. I believe they are grieving the loss of Caylee. I just can't understand their actions.

I think that until they stop the lying and maneuvering to defend Casey, that no, they won't garner much sympathy.

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:36 PM

Interesting- thank you

Couldn't tell but do you think it is George's bro or another of Cindy's?

IMO

Dells

12-31-2008, 12:37 PM

... I think that she should be there so that the memory of the little coffin is etched in her brain for the rest of her life. In fact, I think they should open it and give her a peek at her handy work.

Unfortunately, I don't think that would even phase Casey. She only seems to be able to have sympathy and tears for herself.:thumbdown:

happygert

12-31-2008, 12:37 PM

He's a espanic singer, no? He's married to Jennifer Lopez. Is that the person your are referring to?

There was a Mark Anthony that was a stripper.... Have pictures of him.

shelbar53

12-31-2008, 12:37 PM

I don't get the point of this discussion, and why it's relevant. What am I missing. Who cares where George's family lives? JMO.

Carry on, don't mean to be mean. But why waste the bandwith?

yea, the angry villigers with pitchforks and fire should be going to the jail not georges family house.

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:37 PM

Happy New Year Everyone. :biggrin:

Lomar, George's BIL talked to a reporter in Ohio. I can't remember his name. Eddie something.

Ok wondered if it was George's thought so

http://kissmeimabbw.newsvine.com/_news/2008/12/22/2239444-caylee-anthonys-family-mourns

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:38 PM

Hi my Postie...

Girl, I am so afraid that when the truth rolls out. We are all going to be sitting here throwing up. This is bad. I just feel this is so bad..

Sorry you are losing a channel. I never know what is going on w/the networks. I really don't watch to much tv anymore.. Although, i'll be glad when our show comes back!

I also think it's going to be bad. We won't go where I think it's going, but it will be bad. Which is why we have a little girl found in a swamp with her mouth covered in duct tape and nothing left of her but bones.

May they all rot! There is no Zanny or Nanny, just a bunch of useless people who didn't give a rats azz about anyone but themselves. JMO.

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 12:38 PM

George is certainly italian....as for Cindy...she might be irish, not for sure...

Italian names usually end in A,E,I,O,U and sometimes Y....

I agree George must have some Italian in his family tree.

Can I ask why this heritage is important? I'm 100% Italian and don't understand why it matters. Casey could be purple, she's still a murderer.

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 12:39 PM

There is such a huge difference in supporting/ loving your child, and lying/accusing others, mistruths, covering up for your child. With all of Cindylying to cover up for Casey, I can't help but wonder how many times when she was a child others took the blame for things she did. I also understand completely the statement in 911 call about "why do they want to talk to me". Yes, why, Cindy has always taken care of everything for her. She has never had to answer for herself. So why now does her Mother expect her to answer, Cindy has never let her answer before.

I totally agree....supporting your child or standing by your child is a big difference from lying and covering up....especially in a charge such as this....It is their grandchild that has been murdered.....If they truely wanted to stand by their child, in the event they thought she had totally lost her mind to have done such a thing, would be to get her to admit what she had done and throw herself at the mercy of the court...they would have went alot lighter on her..she might have gotten out in 7 years or so, still young enough to have a life.....

No more, can this happen...life without parole with be the sentence now...

SandyO

12-31-2008, 12:39 PM

I don't get the point of this discussion, and why it's relevant. What am I missing. Who cares where George's family lives? JMO.

Carry on, don't mean to be mean. But why waste the bandwith?

I think it's been a topic of conversation that the Anthonys don't seem to have much support from extended family, Dunnie, and I find that interesting, too.

Lavenia

12-31-2008, 12:40 PM

There was a Mark Anthony that was a stripper.... Have pictures of him.

:laugh: Happy New Years HappyGert! It sounds like you have a good start!

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 12:40 PM

Depends on one's definition of love I guess. I think cynthia and george should have made absolutely sure that Caylee was being taken care of by casey anthony when they weren't around. IMO, they failed to do this......miserably.

They knew what kind of female they had on their hands, from early on imo. They knew she lied, cheated and was a thief and still they did nothing but cover up for her.

The latest incident being her theft from her grandparents assisted living bank account. Just think about that for moment. What kind of degenerate does something like that? Mrs. Plesea by her own account wanted casey anthony prosecuted, but cynthia leapt into the breach and once again covered for her.

Who paid for this folly? Caylee Anthony that's who. These people did not show "love" for Caylee, not in my mind.

I totally agree, Regina! Poor little Caylee paid the ultimate price for this dysfunctional family! What a horrible shame!

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 12:40 PM

Nope, 1 of the Roman Emperors.

I don't remember him, but I will look him up. Thanks.

a9arose

12-31-2008, 12:40 PM

You think the Anthonys have the power to get Casey off?

No way.

Nope...never said that. Unfortunately, there is always that possibility.

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:40 PM

I thought it was intersting that Cindy and her brother, mother, and parents have all been brought into this, but never have I heard anything from Georges side. Just looking at all the different personalities.

I think it's interesting - window to the family dynamic - George's family hasn't been found to be blogging or calling the shows etc - they seem - and I don't have any proof just an opinion based on them staying away from the circus. - they seem more private imo imo

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 12:41 PM

I agree George must have some Italian in his family tree.

Can I ask why this heritage is important? I'm 100% Italian and don't understand why it matters. Casey could be purple, she's still a murderer.

It doesn't make a bit of difference in my books....I too am Italian...and it wouldn't matter one way or the other...she is guilty and should go for life....

Someone else had mentioned what they thought George and Cindy were.....I guess they were just curious....cause it shouldn't make a bit of difference....

shellzbi

12-31-2008, 12:41 PM

I would like to hear what they have to say, but as Shelbar has pointed out, not under the umbrella of immunity. I would like them to be exposed for the vermin they are. I would like to find out one way or another if they stole donation money and how much and what they spent it on, and how long ago they knew that Caylee was dead and exactly how many months went by that they continued the kidnapping ruse to the public. I would like to know what evidence they destroyed, if Lee helped with the moving of the body, what evidence was tampered with such as the laundering of Casey's death-laden pants, what they withheld from the police and what criminal activities they have been involved with since long before this case started.

And then I would like to be a fly on the wall when the locks of those steel doors are shut behind them as they are taken to their cells.

I agree, I would like all of the above answered as well.

I want them to come clean for only one reason, as you have stated just to expose them for what they are.

I also want to join you on the wall. Happy New Year! Shellzbi.

5boxersmom

12-31-2008, 12:42 PM

Ok wondered if it was George's thought so

http://kissmeimabbw.newsvine.com/_news/2008/12/22/2239444-caylee-anthonys-family-mourns

I can't get the link to work. I have seen two interviews by him. One was early in the case and it said he was married to George's sister. Wonder if he is the millionaire? I know he owns car dealerships in Niles, Ohio.

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:42 PM

I think it's been a topic of conversation that the Anthonys don't seem to have much support from extended family, Dunnie, and I find that interesting, too.
Why? Kind of irrelevant to worry about people who lived in Ohio of Ft. Myers. Possible phone calls. I'm still not getting the point, and I think the discussion is irrelevant as to what happened to Caylee. But that's just me.

Carry on.

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:43 PM

I think it's been a topic of conversation that the Anthonys don't seem to have much support from extended family, Dunnie, and I find that interesting, too.

True too - never thought of it as not having support - hmmm
There seems to be a sharp contrast from Cindy's side - I don't think they have been supportive either - at least not the way Cindy want's their support IMO

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 12:44 PM

He talks of going to visit his ailing parents with Cindy right before all this happens - I don't remember if they went or were gonna go and his brother recentely said this from youngston ohio:

http://kissmeimabbw.newsvine.com/_news/2008/12/22/2239444-caylee-anthonys-family-mourns

His family has not taken part in the circus of this thus far

IMO

The distant family probably do not want to be connected to this case. I know I wouldn't want to...They probably all know what kind of a person Casey was before this...They have probably washed their hands of them all....jmo

Regina.Lampert

12-31-2008, 12:45 PM

Wasn't Mark Anthony a famous Italian?:thumbsup:

..........lol! :lol:

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:45 PM

Nope...never said that. Unfortunately, there is always that possibility.

The defense team has the power to get Casey off, and that's what they are trying to do. won't work though. JMO.

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 12:46 PM

It doesn't make a bit of difference in my books....I too am Italian...and it wouldn't matter one way or the other...she is guilty and should go for life....

Someone else had mentioned what they thought George and Cindy were.....I guess they were just curious....cause it shouldn't make a bit of difference....

Thanks for explaining. Where are George and Cindy spending their time as of late? The are no mention of them via the news.

happygert

12-31-2008, 12:46 PM

:laugh: Happy New Years HappyGert! It sounds like you have a good start!

Thanks Lavenia. Happy New Year to you too. But I'm serious about that...:lol: No drinky poo's for me watching gs...

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 12:46 PM

Only snipped cuz we have to.

Great post, Tam! I am right there with you! I would have sympathized in a New York SECOND for those people had they not have shown their true colors VERY early on. In my mind and opinion, they did and I hope that if there is enough evidence, they should have to pay the price.

This little baby did nothing wrong. She was an innocent bystander in mess of a family and SHE paid the ultimate price for what they have done. Makes me so sick to my stomach! I do not remember EVER being as angry as I am right now (with this family that is, not with life like some psychiatrist wannabe poster thought I was). lol! I was angry with the other cases such as Natalie Holloway, Lacie and Conner Peterson, Stacey and Kathleen Peterson and so on, but never have I seen or heard such a mess and such horrible lies. This family puts the criminal in these other cases to shame, and that is almost IMPOSSIBLE to do, or so I thought!

To top it off, I think that Baez is as much a liar as the rest of them. I know that he has a job to do, but he is saying chit like "Casey was so distraught she had to be sedated"! Yeah, and I see that buying chicken cup-o-soup, beef sticks and m&m's just may help, too, right? If that were my daughter, I would have to be sedated every single solitary day. I would hardly be able to make it through a minute. The same as if it were my granddaughter.

NUTS I tell ya! NUTS!

WHEW! Got that off my chest! Okay, carry on. Nothing to see here. LOL!

Thank you Spirit, and Great Post yourself :thumbsup: ...

This is truly the biggest journey into the darknest we have ever taken.

SandyO

12-31-2008, 12:47 PM

Why? Kind of irrelevant to worry about people who lived in Ohio of Ft. Myers. Possible phone calls. I'm still not getting the point, and I think the discussion is irrelevant as to what happened to Caylee. But that's just me.

Carry on.

Yes, it is a bit astray, as is wondering about family heritage. No harm done if that's what folks are interested in, wouldn't you agree?

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:47 PM

I find it interesting too, was it George or Cindy that said Georges sister had emotional problems and they wondered if it carried over to Casey?

Heck, they all have emotional problems. Doesn't matter when we need to know what happened to Caylee. I think it's obvious. Chlorform murder, and a cover-up. JMO.

trich

12-31-2008, 12:47 PM

Lawyer: Caylee Anthony's grandparents need immunity

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/TFDLD9KV4RQ95TQ8A

Yikes! Read some of the comments posted after this article.

I am beginning to think this is what I would call a "feeler".
this lawyer put this out there about the immunity just to see what the public reaction would be.
Although IMO he would have to be an idiot to think the public would agree they should get it.:shrug:
But it is not the publics decision .....but maybe just maybe if the LE does have evidence against them they will prosecute and immunity be dam***.
I think they should be held acccountable for their bad behavior.

Hey Paula

12-31-2008, 12:48 PM

George is certainly italian....as for Cindy...she might be irish, not for sure...

Italian names usually end in A,E,I,O,U and sometimes Y....

Cindy's maiden name, Plesea, ends in "A". That, coupled with her father looking so Italian, is why I believe she might at least be half Italian.

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 12:48 PM

I understand your beliefs....but I HAVE TO....believe that God was with Caylee and seeing what she was faced with took her into HIS arms.....If I believe otherwise, It would IMO make her life meaningless.....and I cant do that...

I'm with you, without a belief we really have nothing.....I believe that the Lord works in mysterious ways and we shouldn't question him.....

We have all lost a loved one at one time or another and we all have to leave here one day....so, I will keep my faith no matter what.....

nc1948

12-31-2008, 12:49 PM

Exactly! Remember when they wanted some of the donations to be gift cards to like, Target and so on????? WTH?

Also the Helpfindcaylee web site wanted donations and were selling t-shirt and armbands to finance the searches. What searches. Oh well, the search at LK studios was the last one.

I think the worse for me was driving around a billboard with a non working number. You are looking for your grandaughter and you want tips, but you post a non working phone number. How did that work for you. Also parking the billboard in shopping centers and asking for donations. We can take you money, but we cannot take your tips.

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:50 PM

The distant family probably do not want to be connected to this case. I know I wouldn't want to...They probably all know what kind of a person Casey was before this...They have probably washed their hands of them all....jmo

yeah - I wonder if there are any emails between George's family like the ones we got to see from Cindy's Mom and Mom's sis (aunt) - they knew she was a nut way prior IMO - I too would stay as far away from this as I could. George said they were planning a trip to see his ailing parents cuz cindy rarely got a chance to see them - I think there was no love lost between Cindy and the elder Anthonys - nothing but my opinion - no fact here

Neffy

12-31-2008, 12:50 PM

There is such a huge difference in supporting/ loving your child, and lying/accusing others, mistruths, covering up for your child. With all of Cindylying to cover up for Casey, I can't help but wonder how many times when she was a child others took the blame for things she did. I also understand completely the statement in 911 call about "why do they want to talk to me". Yes, why, Cindy has always taken care of everything for her. She has never had to answer for herself. So why now does her Mother expect her to answer, Cindy has never let her answer before.

ITA with you. I know people one family in particular that does this. It really does make you want to scream and unfortunately want to make you or your kids have nothing to do with them or their child. It's very rare I'd imagine that it escalates to the level of that child being so way over the top that at the age of 22 they're stealing from everyone they run into including the elderly and murdering or causing the accidental death of a young child.

The Anthony's can't stop their behavior. It wasn't my child. Whether it be stealing a gumball or causing the death of another. They are of the wasn't my child mentallity. That's going to be a hard pill to swallow.

dgfred

12-31-2008, 12:50 PM

I caught that also, did anyone catch when he said PI told him that they were going out to recover Caylee?

I did. So they must have known at the time that Caylee was already dead and they were trying to work an angle to show someone besides
Casey had something to do with the murder. He also said the video that the FBI has is not exactly the correct location of the body... they
were like 900 yds off and the friend who said check their old hangout area was also not exactly where the remains were found. He does say some interesting things :ohmy: .

Regina.Lampert

12-31-2008, 12:50 PM

I just heard that same thing on MSNBC that the Anthony's lawyer will not put them in the room with LE until they have immunity. There is non reason for them to not speak with LE unless they have knowledge of and/or participated in a crime. Speaks volumes to me.

I think they are playing with fire here because the Prosecution can slap all the anthony's before a grand jury and question them there. Grand juries aren't just for obtaining indictments, they can also be used for investigation purposes. Lie before a Grand jury and you are in a world of hurt. Yep, the more I think about this the more I like this idea.

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:51 PM

Thank you Spirit, and Great Post yourself :thumbsup: ...

This is truly the biggest journey into the darknest we have ever taken.

Quite frankly, I never thought I would see a case as bad as Scott Peterson. He murders his wife and unborn son. Okay, he did that by himself, alone.

This one takes the cake though. A beautiful little girl who was alive and thriving, and everyone is covering up for Casey. I just don't get it.

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 12:52 PM

I find it interesting too, was it George or Cindy that said Georges sister had emotional problems and they wondered if it carried over to Casey?

I think I remember Geroge saying that during his interview with the FBI, maybe? I do remember it being said, though.

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:52 PM

I wonder how much Georges family has been supporting them with phone calls and such.

I think IMO George's family has sympathy only for him - Cindy didn't reserve this behavior for this event - I have to believe she has treated George's family the way she treats everyone.... imo

Regina.Lampert

12-31-2008, 12:52 PM

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:52 PM

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 12:53 PM

I'm with you, without a belief we really have nothing.....I believe that the Lord works in mysterious ways and we shouldn't question him.....

We have all lost a loved one at one time or another and we all have to leave here one day....so, I will keep my faith no matter what.....

I take issue with someone shoving God down our throats on a message board. Especially by one who sins on a daily basis. It doesn't mean I don't believe in God. That is all I'll say about this issue.

imo

Postergeist

12-31-2008, 12:53 PM

OMG! Postergeist, hi. It just occurs to me that what if there was something found at the site or inside the bag which was purchased by Cindy at JC Penney, as a gesture of goodbye (such as a cross or a medal or some piece of jewelry) which now links Cindy and George to the murder. What if she gave Casey something to put with Caylee's body similar to families who put things in their loved one's caskets as a memorance. We did this with our grandmother and her rosary beads just before the burial. I bet this is why they stormed that house the day the remains were found and I bet this is the reason why the Anthony's are begging and demanding all of this immunity. They must be terrified for their own selves even more so than for Casey.

Hi ya January- I know there has been lots of discussion of what Casey might've purchased at Penney's- but it was her mom's card- so she could make purchases as well.

It's just odd that way back then she took it upon herself to determine what would be "useful" or not- what was "important" or not to tell LE.

So was something from the bedroom or house used that was later missing and needed to be replaced or was something purchased just for that gawdawful dump site?

Penney's does sell jewelry, bedding, pillows, sheets, towels, luggage- and even that time of year would still be selling bathing suits.

And backpacks are sold too- along with shoes...

Guess we'll all have to wait til the trial to find out what was with the remains.

shellzbi

12-31-2008, 12:53 PM

The defense team has the power to get Casey off, and that's what they are trying to do. won't work though. JMO.

What power are you talking about ?

I only want facts, and the fact is the state of Fl. has charged the right person with this crime. IMO.

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 12:53 PM

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 12:54 PM

Cindy's maiden name, Plesea, ends in "A". That, coupled with her father looking so Italian, is why I believe she might at least be half Italian.

Could very well be...It's a myth that all italians have brown or black eyes...My mom had blue eyes...and it passed on to my eldest brother...the rest of us all have brown eyes...

I hope that some arent thinking that because they are italian they will cover for something like this.......There is not that much loyalty in the italian family....in fact, in a case such as this the odds are that an italian father would have handed Casey her head before the police could have gotten to her.....At least in my family and growing up surroundings they would have......

trich

12-31-2008, 12:54 PM

I'm with you, without a belief we really have nothing.....I believe that the Lord works in mysterious ways and we shouldn't question him.....

We have all lost a loved one at one time or another and we all have to leave here one day....so, I will keep my faith no matter what.....

Me too!
God is not responsible for the bad things that happen in this world.
Man is !!

velvetbrown

12-31-2008, 12:54 PM

He wasn't with Caylee when she needed him. No, he is not everywhere. It's impossible.

I'm sorry you feel that way...for me, God is everywhere...He WAS with Caylee, and I know in my heart that she felt no fear or pain because He would not allow it...He took Caylee's soul to heaven with Him...Casey harmed only Caylee's body...the vehicle for Caylee's soul...Caylee was with the Lord...

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:55 PM

Oh I think LE would love to know exactly when it happened. And I didn't see that the ME said cause of death was homicide by Chlorform.

Irrelevant, but you have to connect the dots and follow the daisy chain (whatever that is). CE and FE will prove Casey did this horrendous deed and the Anthony's covered it up. JMO. No question, no doubt in my mind.

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 12:55 PM

I think I remember Geroge saying that during his interview with the FBI, maybe? I do remember it being said, though.

That was in the emails between Cindy's Mom and Aunt...... pull those up you'll find that reference there....

IMO

rj1212

12-31-2008, 12:56 PM

I think that requesting that she attend does send the message that they don't believe she killed Caylee.

I have compassion and sympathy for them. I believe they are grieving the loss of Caylee. I just can't understand their actions.

I think that until they stop the lying and maneuvering to defend Casey, that no, they won't garner much sympathy.

If it's proven that the Anthony's knew that Caylee was dead either in June, July, or August, then that would have to mean that they would've started grieving long ago, but instead put on a charade to friends, LE, and the national media.

It's only speculation, but if that's true then it makes sense that their primary concern changed from flying around California and eating at fancy restaurants to suddenly lawyering up and seeking full immunity.

Your last statement is so true; if they begin to tell the entire truth then true healing can begin for them, and sympathy will surely follow by most people.
mo

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 12:56 PM

I take issue with someone shoving God down our throats on a message board. Especially by one who sins on a daily basis. It doesn't mean I don't believe in God. That is all I'll say about this issue.

imo

With all due respect, I don't think that this poster was "shoving" God down anyones throat! I think that she simply replied to your post with her opinion, just like you did yours. That's all.

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 12:56 PM

I'm sorry you feel that way...for me, God is everywhere...He WAS with Caylee, and I know in my heart that she felt no fear or pain because He would not allow it...He took Caylee's soul to heaven with Him...Casey harmed only Caylee's body...the vehicle for Caylee's soul...Caylee was with the Lord...

Go back and read my last post.

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 12:56 PM

I take issue with someone shoving God down our throats on a message board. Especially by one who sins on a daily basis. It doesn't mean I don't believe in God. That is all I'll say about this issue.

imo

I'm not shoving anything down your throat...I speak my peace whether you like it or not...that is what this board is about...

If you don't like what someone is writing move on to the next post...that's what I do and most all others on here do.....

AND WE RESPECT OTHERS OPINIONS.......

MalloryCat

12-31-2008, 12:57 PM

SandyO

12-31-2008, 12:57 PM

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 12:57 PM

Quite frankly, I never thought I would see a case as bad as Scott Peterson. He murders his wife and unborn son. Okay, he did that by himself, alone.

This one takes the cake though. A beautiful little girl who was alive and thriving, and everyone is covering up for Casey. I just don't get it.

Yes Dunny it sure does. I am w/you on that.. I hope that nothing ever tops this case again ever.

Deep inside I have to wonder Dunnie. Would parents go this far for a child? I don't know, I am not in these shoes. A part of me wonders.. Why did they go this far, was it to protect Casey or is it to protect something about them that is really bad. I don't think murder, but a family secret that will rock the heart of why the parents went so far...

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 12:58 PM

I LOVE that idea!!!! YES! Can they use the tape from the interviews in the Grand Jury as well?
Okay, you guys lost me. Didn't the Anthony's already go before the grand jury which is why Casey got charged with Murder 1.

Can there be another Grand Jury hearing to charge all the Anthony's? So we are talking another Grand Jury hearing for Cindy, George and Lee?

Postergeist

12-31-2008, 12:58 PM

Hi my Postie...

Girl, I am so afraid that when the truth rolls out. We are all going to be sitting here throwing up. This is bad. I just feel this is so bad..

Sorry you are losing a channel. I never know what is going on w/the networks. I really don't watch to much tv anymore.. Although, i'll be glad when our show comes back!

From previous cases- we know things can later be found to be much worse...ugh- murder is an ugly act- there may be more stones unturned before this goes to trial.

it's twenty channels altogether- and one is where I watch Dr. Drew on!

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 12:59 PM

With all due respect, I don't think that this poster was "shoving" God down anyones throat! I think that she simply replied to your post with her opinion, just like you did yours. That's all.

<sigh> God on Nancy Grace?

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 01:00 PM

That was in the emails between Cindy's Mom and Aunt...... pull those up you'll find that reference there....

IMO

Oh! Thank you, Mandy! :)

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 01:01 PM

Didn't I warn ya The Geist would get ya for that little remark you made.......lol. :tongue:

Good thing you pointed that out for me. I missed that one totally... You are so right...

I better be good now... I know the power of the Geist...

:wub: ya

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 01:01 PM

Yes Dunny it sure does. I am w/you on that.. I hope that nothing ever tops this case again ever.

Deep inside I have to wonder Dunnie. Would parents go this far for a child? I don't know, I am not in these shoes. A part of me wonders.. Why did they go this far, was it to protect Casey or is it to protect something about them that is really bad. I don't think murder, but a family secret that will rock the heart of why the parents went so far...

If they knew the truth, and I think Cindy knows the truth, you would have thought Caylee would be foremost in her heart. JMO. I'd "give up" my daughter in a NY minute if I thought she did anything to my grand daughter. But that's just me. JMO.

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 01:02 PM

I'm not shoving anything down your throat...I speak my peace whether you like it or not...that is what this board is about...

If you don't like what someone is writing move on to the next post...that's what I do and most all others on here do.....

AND WE RESPECT OTHERS OPINIONS.......

What? I wasn't talking about you. Go back and read my post. If you still don't like my post, you can follow your own advice, right?

Neffy

12-31-2008, 01:02 PM

Go back and read my last post.

Hey NYG,

Well how about we just look at this case as "HOLY COW"!

(just trying to diffuse and take the edge off of religion for ya)

kitty1182

12-31-2008, 01:02 PM

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 01:02 PM

<sigh> God on Nancy Grace?

No, no. lol I meant about keeping the faith when you said that God was not with Caylee that day.

I know that this case sure does make us all mad. Especially since a little child was murdered. I know that there are questions and so on. We all have them and someday, perhaps we will know why.

I did not see the God on NG thing. Sorry. I am sure not trying to argue, just want to keep some peace.

Happy new years eve. NYGalPal

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 01:03 PM

yeah - I wonder if there are any emails between George's family like the ones we got to see from Cindy's Mom and Mom's sis (aunt) - they knew she was a nut way prior IMO - I too would stay as far away from this as I could. George said they were planning a trip to see his ailing parents cuz cindy rarely got a chance to see them - I think there was no love lost between Cindy and the elder Anthonys - nothing but my opinion - no fact here

I noticed that from the beginning of this case....that the Anthony's had no support from family of friends, or it was very limited...I first thought that maybe they are just a small family that stay to themselves....but also, after reading what Cindy's family wrote to her, I take it that they have all washed their hands of them...About George's family, I have heard nothing at all....

At a time like this, I would think that family would be around...but maybe it's because Cindy and George are covering up for Casey......and they just can't go along with that.....I know I wouldn't

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 01:03 PM

From previous cases- we know things can later be found to be much worse...ugh- murder is an ugly act- there may be more stones unturned before this goes to trial.

it's twenty channels altogether- and one is where I watch Dr. Drew on!

You are so right girl.. Murder is not a pretty, and especially not when it's a poor innnocent little baby girl.

Dr. Drew.. Who dat??

shelbar53

12-31-2008, 01:04 PM

If it's proven that the Anthony's knew that Caylee was dead either in June, July, or August, then that would have to mean that they would've started grieving long ago, but instead put on a charade to friends, LE, and the national media.

It's only speculation, but if that's true then it makes sense that their primary concern changed from flying around California and eating at fancy restaurants to suddenly lawyering up and seeking full immunity.

Your last statement is so true; if they begin to tell the entire truth then true healing can begin for them, and sympathy will surely follow by most people.
mo

Well I guess im not most people because I wont have sympathy for them. why should I have sympathy for them just because the jig is up and they might have to come clean. If caylee wasnt found they would be saying she was spotted in N dakota, vermont, Delware...whatever

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 01:04 PM

From previous cases- we know things can later be found to be much worse...ugh- murder is an ugly act- there may be more stones unturned before this goes to trial.

it's twenty channels altogether- and one is where I watch Dr. Drew on!

I watch Dr. Drew all the time. Okay, trying to stay on topic. So good to see you here.

Did you hear that the FBI has the "supposed" video by the video guy who claims to be part of the defense team. LMAO.

And what's up with Baez asking for a "special master" to oversee that guy's questioning. Man, Baez is grasping at straws.

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 01:04 PM

Nothing about this case is irrelevant. How do you think they are going to connect the dots if as you say they are finding things irrelevant?.

ITA, What could irrelevant in this case?

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 01:06 PM

From previous cases- we know things can later be found to be much worse...ugh- murder is an ugly act- there may be more stones unturned before this goes to trial.

it's twenty channels altogether- and one is where I watch Dr. Drew on!

We are losing 18 channels total...contract up tonight at midnight...I'm pretty upset about it....spoke with the cable company and they said that MTV want to double the fee and they are negotiating...

nc1948

12-31-2008, 01:06 PM

I think that requesting that she attend does send the message that they don't believe she killed Caylee.

I have compassion and sympathy for them. I believe they are grieving the loss of Caylee. I just can't understand their actions.

I think that until they stop the lying and maneuvering to defend Casey, that no, they won't garner much sympathy.

I think they knew that she would not be allowed to attend. So they could safely request her presence without worrying that it would be granted. Now that it has be officially denied they can play the sympathy card again. She just wants to give her daughter her final respect and look at mean ole LE, they won't let her.

To me, she gave her final respects when she placed her in a garbage bag and tossed her into those bushes. Thats how much she loved and respected Caylee. NADA

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 01:06 PM

You know, if they swore their statements were true, I wouldn't see why not.

Couldn't lying to the FBI be charges in themselves? I thought that (yes, i know! Geraldo!!!! ) said that they could lie to LE, but being caught lying to the FBI would be felony charges. Of course, that was PRIOR to becoming boat buds with Baez! ;)

Geraldo! BLECH! :sneaky:

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 01:06 PM

No, no. lol I meant about keeping the faith when you said that God was not with Caylee that day.

I know that this case sure does make us all mad. Especially since a little child was murdered. I know that there are questions and so on. We all have them and someday, perhaps we will know why.

I did not see the God on NG thing. Sorry. I am sure not trying to argue, just want to keep some peace.

Happy new years eve. NYGalPal

I'm not mad, I just feel some are missing my point. No biggy really. I'll PM you and hopefully you'll understand.

Happy New Year to you too.

nc1948

12-31-2008, 01:07 PM

I thought it was intersting that Cindy and her brother, mother, and parents have all been brought into this, but never have I heard anything from Georges side. Just looking at all the different personalities.

I don't think any of Georges family has put themselves into this situation. They have not granted interviews, not gone on national TV, looks to me like they have done their grieving in private. What a concept.

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 01:08 PM

To me, she gave her final respects when she placed her in a garbage bag and tossed her into those bushes. Thats how much she loved and respected Caylee. NADA

There you go. No way in heck should some one charged with murder be allowed to go their funeral. Won't happen. More smoke and mirrors, more denial by the Anthony's.

ETA: OOPS, Sorry, I snipped to address.

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 01:08 PM

Yes Dunny it sure does. I am w/you on that.. I hope that nothing ever tops this case again ever.

Deep inside I have to wonder Dunnie. Would parents go this far for a child? I don't know, I am not in these shoes. A part of me wonders.. Why did they go this far, was it to protect Casey or is it to protect something about them that is really bad. I don't think murder, but a family secret that will rock the heart of why the parents went so far...

It certainly is something to think about....And I sure hope and pray that it doesn't get worse that it is now...I hope that Caylee went fast and didn't know what was happening...drugs or something...

rj1212

12-31-2008, 01:09 PM

<sigh> God on Nancy Grace?

Are you going to talk about this case or will you continue to expend useless energy dying on this hill?

MandyMia

12-31-2008, 01:10 PM

I noticed that from the beginning of this case....that the Anthony's had no support from family of friends, or it was very limited...I first thought that maybe they are just a small family that stay to themselves....but also, after reading what Cindy's family wrote to her, I take it that they have all washed their hands of them...About George's family, I have heard nothing at all....

At a time like this, I would think that family would be around...but maybe it's because Cindy and George are covering up for Casey......and they just can't go along with that.....I know I wouldn't

It's unfortunate but I think Cindy burned the bridges offered by her family early on - she refused to listen to anything they had to say and from the back and forth emails her family really sounded concerned for her ...imo

Mandysmom

12-31-2008, 01:10 PM

FOX network, imo. I can see geraldo doing the play by play of the memorial right now, bemoaning the plight of poor casey anthony the grieving tot mom, being denied her request to be at Caylee's memorial service. :cuss:

Well if that happens and he does, I hope it's a bigger wave that knocks him on his butt this time. :mad:

I'll settle for a nice thunderbolt to just knock him out for a couple of hours. :w00t:

Mimi428

12-31-2008, 01:10 PM

I think they are playing with fire here because the Prosecution can slap all the anthony's before a grand jury and question them there. Grand juries aren't just for obtaining indictments, they can also be used for investigation purposes. Lie before a Grand jury and you are in a world of hurt. Yep, the more I think about this the more I like this idea.

And for that matter, lying to the FBI will get you in a world of trouble faster than you can spell "trouble"! And I have NO doubt whatsoever that before either George or Cindy gave any statement to the FBI that they were warned about that sort of thing & that they acknowledged that they knew & that it is all on tape or paper or both, somewhere.

I can appreciate that the attorneys for the rest of the Anthonys want assurances from LE, but at this point I think they are simply posturing & hoping for the best.

Hadn't thought more about the grand jury process, though - good thinking! I don't think George would be remotely willing to go to jail for his daughter. Cindy, I'm not so sure about.

JMO

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 01:11 PM

It certainly is something to think about....And I sure hope and pray that it doesn't get worse that it is now...I hope that Caylee went fast and didn't know what was happening...drugs or something...

The tape around her mouth, skull proves she didn't go fast. JMO.

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 01:11 PM

Hey NYG,

Well how about we just look at this case as "HOLY COW"!

(just trying to diffuse and take the edge off of religion for ya)

Fine by me.

When will they decide to charge the Anthony's? thoughts?

Lavenia

12-31-2008, 01:11 PM

Grand Jury's are only for Capitol cases. At this time any charges that they could be charged are not capitol offenses.

JMO

GJ only for capital cases? Not from where I come from. Felony yes. Capital yes.

AJandTam

12-31-2008, 01:12 PM

If they knew the truth, and I think Cindy knows the truth, you would have thought Caylee would be foremost in her heart. JMO. I'd "give up" my daughter in a NY minute if I thought she did anything to my grand daughter. But that's just me. JMO.

I don't know Dunnie. I don't know yet if this is going to be about her daughter, or her own humiliation. I suspect but ofcourse, do not know. That something was wrong w/in that family for a really long time. A secret, a skeleton. And I fear that this skeleton is humiliating to Cindy and she can't face it... and this is what her real fight was about? Her fight always seemed to be so very personal....There was an anger and rage in her face and her voice.. And that IMHO, comes w/in. It isn't so much about someone else...

shellzbi

12-31-2008, 01:13 PM

Correct me if I am wrong.

Didn't Martha Stewart get in trouble for Lying to the FBI?

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 01:13 PM

Ummm are you referring to Marc Anthony? and he's Puerto Rican..........

Read back two pages. We've already gone over this.

Neffy

12-31-2008, 01:13 PM

I think they knew that she would not be allowed to attend. So they could safely request her presence without worrying that it would be granted. Now that it has be officially denied they can play the sympathy card again. She just wants to give her daughter her final respect and look at mean ole LE, they won't let her.

To me, she gave her final respects when she placed her in a garbage bag and tossed her into those bushes. Thats how much she loved and respected Caylee. NADA

Yes, this is a very bizarre way of life this family lives by.

There is no integrity, morals. Nothing. Just like Cindy telling Greta don't ask me anything stoopid I'm tired and then the tirade about her. She has time for that and spent more time on that then talking about Caylee or the events surrounding that.

Do what she says , listen to what she says and if you aren't going to be in her mindset you are a waste of time. Jeesh.

It's that through out.

I'm sorry quiting your jobs or leaves of absences to hook up a travelling billboard to park in a parking lot? This helped how.

I think it made them look even more foolish. They bought into kidfinders. This reminded me of a Popeil or Ronco gimmick.

This has been the most bizarre thing I've EVER seen.

nc1948

12-31-2008, 01:13 PM

You think the Anthonys have the power to get Casey off?

No way.

I think Cindy thought she could. She has always been in control. Remember her asking LE if she was intimidating them. Also she decided that they did not need to see her receipts. Yes, I believe Cindy with her trusty notebook did think she would confuse/befuddle/ and astound LE with her investigating skill and that Casey would return home to the loving arms of her mother.

kitty1182

12-31-2008, 01:13 PM

Correct me if I am wrong.

Didn't Martha Stewart get in trouble for Lying to the FBI?

Yes........

frances1

12-31-2008, 01:16 PM

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 01:16 PM

I don't know Dunnie. I don't know yet if this is going to be about her daughter, or her own humiliation. I suspect but ofcourse, do not know. That something was wrong w/in that family for a really long time. A secret, a skeleton. And I fear that this skeleton is humiliating to Cindy and she can't face it... and this is what her real fight was about? Her fight always seemed to be so very personal....There was an anger and rage in her face and her voice.. And that IMHO, comes w/in. It isn't so much about someone else...

I guess we will find out during the trial, if it ever happens. I would plea bargain if I were Casey, but Baez needs to make his money and so does LKB, Henry Lee, Kobi, etc. Shame on all of them. JMO.

No wonder there are so many jokes about Lawyers.

cloe23

12-31-2008, 01:16 PM

I guess I'm trying to figure out what you think she is programmed for in the first place - that she would need deprogramming from. Does that make sense?

I think Casey's visitor list is blank because of no other reason than the state of Florida has laws which allow every last visit & conversation to not only be taped - but to be released to the media. If the media knows Casey has a visit or a phone call - they can demand that those things be released under the open records act as it applies in Florida.

So...knowing that, Baez made the strategic decision that there will be NOTHING for the jail to release on his client. That's it. That's all of it. Nothing more, nothing less. He just does not want anything that his client says to be taped & then shown to the public (or anyone else, like the DA, for example).

I think it makes perfect sense for Baez to do that. I'm surprised that Casey agrees to it, though.

JMO

Yes that makes sence. Deprogram Casey so she will stop with the lies and spins so that they can stand a chance in defending her. Casey very will could be sending this dream team on the same goose chase she did with LE. IMO. Guilty indeed, but the gal has got to tell someone the truth. I gotta run......later:smile:

trich

12-31-2008, 01:16 PM

Yes Dunny it sure does. I am w/you on that.. I hope that nothing ever tops this case again ever.

Deep inside I have to wonder Dunnie. Would parents go this far for a child? I don't know, I am not in these shoes. A part of me wonders.. Why did they go this far, was it to protect Casey or is it to protect something about them that is really bad. I don't think murder, but a family secret that will rock the heart of why the parents went so far...

They have covered for Casey it seems for all of her life so far.
Why have they never made her be responsible and accountable?
I don't call covering for the wrong your child does "love" actually I think it is just the opposite.
A parent is suppose to teach their children "To do the right thing"
But IMO the Anthonys do not understand the meaning of doing the right thing.
At least that is what their actions tell me.

Neffy

12-31-2008, 01:16 PM

Fine by me.

When will they decide to charge the Anthony's? thoughts?

As soon as they gather their bearings to do so.

They are reeling. As I keep repeating this is probably the most bizarre case they've ever had to deal with.

My gut feeling is they keep finding more things and until they feel comfortable with the fact that they have all the things done uncovered that's when they will move forward.

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 01:17 PM

Correct me if I am wrong.

Didn't Martha Stewart get in trouble for Lying to the FBI?

Yes and made them even more mad by telling them to go you no where.

I'm still at a loss how Cindy can blatently hide evidence on purpose and has not been charged yet? boggles the mind.

:blink:

Postergeist

12-31-2008, 01:17 PM

I caught that also, did anyone catch when he said PI told him that they were going out to recover Caylee?

reading back to comment on this- yep- and I don't know what to make of what LP said but it seems just macabre if a person knows where any person's remains are and they were not placed there legally then it's just so inhumane-

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ ... ng.01.html

from Tues. 12/30 show

PADILLA: I was introduced to Hoover back when we bailed out Casey in August. And because we have basically a sealed team, we don`t allow outsiders in. And therefore, even though he volunteered to help and all that, he wasn`t accepted.

When we went back this last time, we noticed that he was part of the security or the people that were hanging around the Anthonys. And after I had been there about three or four days, he mentioned to me that he had a film that he had filmed when Dominic called him on the 15th. And I asked him, I says, How can you have a film of the area? He says, Well, Dominic called me on the 15th, told me Caylee had been found. Hoover told me that he asked him, Is she alive? He said, No, she`s dead, but we`re going to go get her right now.

He then -- about two hours later, he showed up again. He had this film, a minute-and-a-half. But it`s not of the exact area where the body was found.

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 01:18 PM

What? I wasn't talking about you. Go back and read my post. If you still don't like my post, you can follow your own advice, right?

Why don't we just put it aside...Happy New Year....:smile:

Dells

12-31-2008, 01:18 PM

Everytime I think of her getting that tattoo I get ill. It stood for HER life w/o her daughter. That and that alone should be enough to convict her of 1st degree murder.

I agree w/you. I don't think Casey getting the tattoo had anything to do w/honoring Caylee's life. It had everything to do w/how wonderful Casey's life would now be w/out having the responsibility of having to take care of Caylee.

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 01:18 PM

Don't forget, though, that Scott Peterson's mother, was helping him in his plan to go to Mexico. Remember the car he had, registered to "Jacqueline Peterson"? And all the money and camping supplies?Then lied on the stand for her evil spawn. Didn't get charged. What is wrong with this picture?

:cursing:

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 01:18 PM

Why don't we just put it aside...Happy New Year....:smile:

We did. read back

happygert

12-31-2008, 01:19 PM

AMS thanks for link just .gert

Regina.Lampert

12-31-2008, 01:19 PM

I LOVE that idea!!!! YES! Can they use the tape from the interviews in the Grand Jury as well?

Hiya Wolfie!! Totally agree with your sentiments about these awful people. I think they can use the GJ transcripts.

Anyone who interfered with this investigation should be held accountable, I don't care who it is.

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 01:20 PM

Fine by me.

When will they decide to charge the Anthony's? thoughts?

I think that it will only be a matte of DAYS after the funeral for Lee.

Do you or anyone know what the aiding and abetting charge would be for? That one has be scratching my head. Unless he hid that little baby for his murderer sister and then took her to her final resting place after Casey was jailed the first time in hopes she would be found while she was in there. I just can't figure that out.

I get the obstruction and think that all of them are guilty on that!

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 01:20 PM

Padilla had better be very careful, or he will be charged as well. JMO. I listen to him carefully. JMO.

SwFlorida

12-31-2008, 01:20 PM

JConnolly

12-31-2008, 01:21 PM

I agree George must have some Italian in his family tree.

Can I ask why this heritage is important? I'm 100% Italian and don't understand why it matters. Casey could be purple, she's still a murderer.
Hi NYGal! :) I don't think anyone was intimating that the Italian heritage (if) has anything to do with one thing or another re Casey and her crimes. I've pretty much read the whole thread and what I've gleaned is that it was brought up in association with the Bella Vita tatt. As in why would she get an Italian phrase tatt -- maybe to impress her Italian boyfriend, Lazzaro... was one mention. And then someone asked if SHE was Italian, then they told someone and that person told someone and then everyone told everyone else and voila here we are LOL

shellzbi

12-31-2008, 01:21 PM

Yes and made them even more mad by telling them to go you no where.

I'm still at a loss how Cindy can blatently hide evidence on purpose and has not been charged yet? boggles the mind.

:blink:

These people are just horrible people. IMO.

I have never in my life heard such garbage!

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 01:21 PM

As soon as they gather their bearings to do so.

They are reeling. As I keep repeating this is probably the most bizarre case they've ever had to deal with.

My gut feeling is they keep finding more things and until they feel comfortable with the fact that they have all the things done uncovered that's when they will move forward.

Well I have no patience. Where are they? I'll get the bearings in order. j/k

Hello FBI; Remember Cindy handed the wrong brush on purpose? just start there.

spiritwolf46

12-31-2008, 01:22 PM

Hiya Wolfie!! Totally agree with your sentiments about these awful people. I think they can use the GJ transcripts.

Anyone who interfered with this investigation should be held accountable, I don't care who it is.

Well, LMAO! Then they have quite a bit to take to the GJ then, IMO! You have two completely different stories from Cindy and George. Hmmm.....wonder what they could do with that? That will teach Cindy to get a stooooopid BINDER ready instead of getting off her azz to look for that poor baby. But then again, she may just have known that there was no sense in looking so she had the time for her professional looking binder and such.

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 01:22 PM

The tape around her mouth, skull proves she didn't go fast. JMO.

I know and it gives me nightmares....How could she have done such a thing to her own child no less....

I like to think that maybe the tape fell that way when in the water...maybe like when the string wrapped around Conners neck in the ocean.....

I can not bear to watch little Caylee singing "you are my sunshine" it tears me apart....It makes me wish I could just grab her up before her mother gets to her....

This case is hard for anyone to take...When Beary choked up, I knew they weren't telling all....

I just don't like to think about it....

Neffy

12-31-2008, 01:22 PM

Then lied on the stand for her evil spawn. Didn't get charged. What is wrong with this picture?

:cursing:

No offense but that's California. (are they part of the rest of the USA) LOL

Sorry they just seem to be another country.

I think FLA LE has conducted themselves and verbally came across in the utmost respectable manor.

They've admitted to mistakes and they go back to see what happened as they continue to move forward.

They are not going to let anyone run them over. Likewise they will not run over anyone else. They have acted with dignity and respect.

shellzbi

12-31-2008, 01:23 PM

Padilla had better be very careful, or he will be charged as well. JMO. I listen to him carefully. JMO.

With What?

Dunlurken

12-31-2008, 01:23 PM

Someone asked and I answered,, Good Grief :lol:

Read faster. This was laid to rest about 5 pages ago. JMO.

Lavenia

12-31-2008, 01:23 PM

Well I have no patience. Where are they? I'll get the bearings in order. j/k

Hello FBI; Remember Cindy handed the wrong brush on purpose? just start there.

:laugh: (about the bearings)

The hairbrush substitution really burned my biscuits! What was she THINKING?! :cursing:

bchand

12-31-2008, 01:23 PM

GJ only for capital cases? Not from where I come from. Felony yes. Capital yes.

Had to look it up:

When Are Grand Juries Used?

In Florida, a Grand Jury indictment is only required when a person is accused of a capital (death penalty) offense. Grand Juries are also used to indict public officials accused of wrongdoing.

http://www.floridadefense.com/PracticeAreas/Grand-Jury-Proceedings.asp

Jeepers

12-31-2008, 01:24 PM

Correct me if I am wrong.

Didn't Martha Stewart get in trouble for Lying to the FBI?

Yep, and she was making a few Daisy Chains of her own for awhile if I remember correctly.

smileyjoe

12-31-2008, 01:24 PM

Well, LMAO! Then they have quite a bit to take to the GJ then, IMO! You have two completely different stories from Cindy and George. Hmmm.....wonder what they could do with that? That will teach Cindy to get a stooooopid BINDER ready instead of getting off her azz to look for that poor baby. But then again, she may just have known that there was no sense in looking so she had the time for her professional looking binder and such.

Bet George is in hot water because he didn't study the book and flunked his oral exam.

:blink:

5boxersmom

12-31-2008, 01:24 PM

I am disturbed that Lenny said that about the body.

Remember a day or two before she was found Lenny said he wouldn't be surprised if LE or the FBI already had her body?

NYGalPal

12-31-2008, 01:24 PM

I think that it will only be a matte of DAYS after the funeral for Lee.

Do you or anyone know what the aiding and abetting charge would be for? That one has be scratching my head. Unless he hid that little baby for his murderer sister and then took her to her final resting place after Casey was jailed the first time in hopes she would be found while she was in there. I just can't figure that out.

I get the obstruction and think that all of them are guilty on that!

Well I for one don't believe they should be allowed to attend her funeral either.

I found this info on aiding and abetting. It's not all that clear, but a start.

http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/aiding_abetting_accessory.html

Barbara fl.

12-31-2008, 01:25 PM

Mandysmom

12-31-2008, 01:26 PM

I don't think Caylee has a care in the world up in heaven. That's where all our tears are wiped away and we are in perfect bliss for eternity. That is, if you are a believer. Consquently I don't think Caylee is up there fretting about who comes to her funeral or not. Or even when that funeral will be held. Or IF there is a funeral.

Savannah, what you say is true. If you are a believer then you know that she is safe and happy and not worried about who attends her funeral.

However, I can tell you for a certainty that if my child or grandchild had been murdered and thrown out to rot in the woods, I would want to put their remains to rest with some semblance of dignity and respect.

I can't fathom letting them lie in a funeral home for weeks. Granted, I would know that their soul wasn't there, but that was the body that once held the soul and I couldn't rest until they were given the respect that they deserved.

As for letting the person that I even remotely suspected of killing my child attend the funeral? Not a snowball's chance in Hades. That would be the ultimate spit in the face of the one I loved and cherished.

Sometimes a line has to be drawn and as painful as it might be, Casey would just have to have pictures from the funeral sent to her. Not that it would faze her at all.

:angry: