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playnice
12-30-2008, 06:54 PM
Here ya go.

playnice
12-30-2008, 06:59 PM
Bump because no :w00t:one is coming and its getting lost.

MoonFlwr
12-30-2008, 06:59 PM
Thanks playnice :)

What was the rule about pics and not being able to post a link in here? Because doing it via PM makes a great deal of the typing on here just about asking for the link! lol

Carol25
12-30-2008, 07:00 PM
I was reviewing one of the visits of the Anthony's with Casey. She had just come back from a visit with the psychologist. Cindy's first comment was, "We forgive you for anything you said." Casey said, "I didn't say anything, don't worry."

What do you make of that? Isn't that a bit strange?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html)

playnice
12-30-2008, 07:00 PM
I dont really know.

WhiteShark
12-30-2008, 07:00 PM
Moonflwr...........thank you again. You to January!

playnice
12-30-2008, 07:01 PM
I was reviewing one of the visits of the Anthony's with Casey. She had just come back from a visit with the psychologist. Cindy's first comment was, "We forgive you for anything you said." Casey said, "I didn't say anything, don't worry."

What do you make of that? Isn't that a bit strange?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html)

Something she was afraid Casey would tell. Maybe the fight?

MoonFlwr
12-30-2008, 07:03 PM
Moonflwr...........thank you again.

Pleasure, WhiteShark! :)

I agree with you ...doesn't look like Lee to moi!

Carol25
12-30-2008, 07:04 PM
I have my theories but we are not allowed to talk about that. :chicken:
Oh. (hitting head...)

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 07:04 PM
I was reviewing one of the visits of the Anthony's with Casey. She had just come back from a visit with the psychologist. Cindy's first comment was, "We forgive you for anything you said." Casey said, "I didn't say anything, don't worry."

What do you make of that? Isn't that a bit strange?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html)


I wondered if anyone else noticed that - I sure did. The whole situation has too many oddities I wouldn't want anyone to look at my life with a microscope -or as many people as are disecting her/their lives, but I know you couldn't get anything like this - people would be bored out of their minds looking at my life lol
imo

AbbyNormal
12-30-2008, 07:05 PM
I was reviewing one of the visits of the Anthony's with Casey. She had just come back from a visit with the psychologist. Cindy's first comment was, "We forgive you for anything you said." Casey said, "I didn't say anything, don't worry."

What do you make of that? Isn't that a bit strange?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html)It all gets curiouser and curiouser. My guess is there are many layers of deception in this family.

FWIW, I don't see CA trying to protect Casey. I see Cynthia trying to protect Cynthia.

jmo

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 07:06 PM
I have my theories but we are not allowed to talk about that. :chicken:



It wasn't until I just read your words that I think ooooooh - I get now mmmmm hmmmm
imo

bchand
12-30-2008, 07:07 PM
I was reviewing one of the visits of the Anthony's with Casey. She had just come back from a visit with the psychologist. Cindy's first comment was, "We forgive you for anything you said." Casey said, "I didn't say anything, don't worry."

What do you make of that? Isn't that a bit strange?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html)

What I always thought it was about was the news was out that Casey told all of her friends that her parents were a pain in the a$$, weird, etc.

Casey didn't catch on to what she meant. IMO

dvsone
12-30-2008, 07:08 PM
I have my theories but we are not allowed to talk about that. :chicken:
you better flap those wings a bit faster!!

nah you know other people dont follow the "I-word" insinuations....

good god yall PLEASE dont say it... if they shut down our ONE thread what would we all do? ... and NO one say housework!

I think there are a plethora of family secrets and I dont think they all have to do with the "I word" ..... I think there is plenty of other things going on... such as more theft, more lies, more fabrications ... I think mostly about money.... like Postie said earlier... The good book says something about money being the root to all ....


this isnt the families first forray into scams, money, schemes, et al...

Nellie
12-30-2008, 07:08 PM
OK, so who is this PI?
Why would he be out in those woods taking photos?
Did he take photos of other spots?
I'm sorry, but this is so hoky!
If he does have pics of that woods/crime scene before the LE even knew it was a crime scene.....then, imo, someone tipped him off that Caylee would be there. Something is so fishy here. Is this why Lee's attorney believes he'll be charged with something?
I think it's time for this PI to be identified.
Is Lee the PI? After all, he supposedly was doing his own investigation.
Was a videotape of the area made BEFORE dumping Caylee's body was dumped there? Perhaps it was videotaped and then her body was moved there and this is all for "defense".
Something is so strange here.......
This is the strangest and saddest story I've ever followed....saddest because I wonder who cared about this little child and where her little body was while it was rotting away.

Mimi428
12-30-2008, 07:09 PM
Thanks playnice :)

What was the rule about pics and not being able to post a link in here? Because doing it via PM makes a great deal of the typing on here just about asking for the link! lol

I am not sure what is in the pix that everyone is sending via PM & not posting here.

I am certainly not the moderator, don't play one on TV & did not stay at a Holiday Inn last night - but, I have been around as a poster for, lo these many years so I will try to post about what subjects are likely to get you in trouble & should be avoided - whether they are about this case or any other.

Any discussion of sexual improprieties on the part of anyone not charged with a crime is likely to not be allowed. IOW, if someone has been arrested, charged, convicted or the like of a crime such as incest, sexual assault, child molestation, etc - it can be mentioned. If a person does NOT fit into those categories, it is highly unlikely the moderator will take kindly to posts suggesting, accusing or declaring such a person has, in fact, committed those sorts of acts.

JMO

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 07:10 PM
What I always thought it was about was the news was out that Casey told all of her friends that her parents were a pain in the a$$, weird, etc.

Casey didn't catch on to what she meant. IMO



You can take that many ways - but I have to wonder what Cynthia was giving Casey absolution about after going to see a physc? What could she have thought Casey would have said and that she needed her to know it was ok if she did? I don't think it was about them being hard butt parents. IMO IMO

MoonFlwr
12-30-2008, 07:11 PM
Thanks for the information Mimi. Although I've been around a while...I missed some time on here, so I thought a new rule had been implemented.

Makes sense, what you said! Thanks :)

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 07:16 PM
I wonder if Nancy Grace will be a repeat tonight or if that nice anchor will be taking her place. Dear Lord don't let it be Jane Valez. That woman gets on my last nerve.



I love Jean - but ITA about Jane - her voice ... ughh - but I'm taping Jane just in case, because it is new and she usually has something on about the Caylee saga - Headline news has had a lot of discussion about the PI - Lee Anthony's (crazy) lawyer etc so I think Jane will too.

Rayosunshine
12-30-2008, 07:16 PM
I was reviewing one of the visits of the Anthony's with Casey. She had just come back from a visit with the psychologist. Cindy's first comment was, "We forgive you for anything you said." Casey said, "I didn't say anything, don't worry."

What do you make of that? Isn't that a bit strange?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html)

I do believe the psychosocial background will be very interesting in this case.

enigma
12-30-2008, 07:17 PM
I'm bringing this over from the other thread... It is my reply to Cury-Us Coyotee's post #581 on this thread: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12594353#post12594353

It refers to an email recovered from Casey's computer which seems to be from Cindy to Casey re Caylee....



Very interesting, Cury-Us.

I believe the email was at least composed, if not also sent, on 16 june. IMO, the email gives 3 clues to the date... Below, I will refer to the sender as Cindy.

Clue #1. Cindy says that "dad said he went to work at 9.00am, returned home at 6.30pm and didn't come home in between."

She also says "I don't know who or what to believe anymore".

IMO, she is referring to the last day (16 June) when Casey and Caylee were supposedly in the A house after the Cindy/Casey argument (pm of 15 June). Cindy didn't see them in the am of 16/6 when she left for work, but supposedly, according to his statements, GA saw them both when they left around 1 pm on that day.

I think this is where GA made a mistake in one of the TV interviews when he was telling the interviewer what he watching when he last saw Caylee, when Casey and she left on the pm of 16 June. He started to say something, then Cindy corrected him.

That, IMO, shows that by the time of that TV interview, CA and GA had gotten together and got their story "straight" as to when Casey and Caylee were seen together last.

Clue #2. Cindy says in the email "It's been over a month now. Am I ever going to see her again?" She is referring to Caylee, as in the sentence that precedes she says that she still hadn't gotten to see pics of Caylee or gotten to speak to her, even though "you told me everyday that you were going to call me"... "but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the hell is going on?"

"Over a month"... that would make it 16 July since Cindy last saw Casey and Caylee, wouldn't it?

Clue #3. The reference to the Anheiser Busch theme Parks takeover... Cindy says "I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch is being taken over by some foreign company"... that didn't want the theme parks. On July 16 Associated Press reported the following:

InBev May Have Plans to Sell Off Busch Theme Parks
http://www.theledger.com/article/200...NEWS/807160390 (http://www.theledger.com/article/20080716/NEWS/807160390)

Out of all the above, the most interesting, IMO, is Cindy saying she doesn't know who to believe anymore alongside saying that "dad" said he went to work at 9, returned home at 6.30 and didn't come home in between...

JMHO

Carol25
12-30-2008, 07:18 PM
OK, so who is this PI?
Why would he be out in those woods taking photos?
Did he take photos of other spots?
I'm sorry, but this is so hoky!
If he does have pics of that woods/crime scene before the LE even knew it was a crime scene.....then, imo, someone tipped him off that Caylee would be there. Something is so fishy here. Is this why Lee's attorney believes he'll be charged with something?
I think it's time for this PI to be identified.
Is Lee the PI? After all, he supposedly was doing his own investigation.
Was a videotape of the area made BEFORE dumping Caylee's body was dumped there? Perhaps it was videotaped and then her body was moved there and this is all for "defense".
Something is so strange here.......
This is the strangest and saddest story I've ever followed....saddest because I wonder who cared about this little child and where her little body was while it was rotting away.
We know who the PI is. It is Dominic Casey and his partner Hoover. After they worked for Baez, (ended Oct. 1st,) they worked for the Anthony's.
The only reason I think he learned about the location of Caylee because of the article in the newspaper that said the defenses spokesman stated that they were concerned when the PI was going to be interviewed by LE that he might divulge conversations they might have had about Caylees remains.

(I think if I was JB I would be looking for a new Pr man...):tonguewag:

The body was there...the meter man had reported tips in August, remember?

AMS
12-30-2008, 07:19 PM
I wonder if Nancy Grace will be a repeat tonight or if that nice anchor will be taking her place. Dear Lord don't let it be Jane Valez. That woman gets on my last nerve.

I'm with you January. I used to like JVM but I think she is trying to be too much like Nancy. More than one Nancy does not work. Many would say one Nancy does not work, but I like NG (most of the time).

I hope NG is not a repeat. We need a few new tidbits.

IMO

Katt2
12-30-2008, 07:19 PM
I was reviewing one of the visits of the Anthony's with Casey. She had just come back from a visit with the psychologist. Cindy's first comment was, "We forgive you for anything you said." Casey said, "I didn't say anything, don't worry."

What do you make of that? Isn't that a bit strange?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html)

I wondered if that referred to the comments she had made about Lee's "touching" and her father's abuse that she alleged to her boyfriends and was made public. Casey may not have known what Cindy meant or even that it had been made public.

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 07:19 PM
I do believe the psychosocial background will be very interesting in this case.




It's just totally my opinion but I really don't believe Casey will tell anyone the "real" truth - she tells people "her" truth. I can't see her letting anyone see her vulnerable side, it's almost like the lies keep her in control over other people IDK just how it seems to me

Barbara fl.
12-30-2008, 07:21 PM
I'm bringing this over from the other thread... It is my reply to Cury-Us Coyotee's post #581 on this thread: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12594353#post12594353

It refers to an email recovered from Casey's computer which seems to be from Cindy to Casey re Caylee....



Very interesting, Cury-Us.

I believe the email was at least composed, if not also sent, on 16 june. IMO, the email gives 3 clues to the date... Below, I will refer to the sender as Cindy.

Clue #1. Cindy says that "dad said he went to work at 9.00am, returned home at 6.30pm and didn't come home in between."

She also says "I don't know who or what to believe anymore".

IMO, she is referring to the last day (16 June) when Casey and Caylee were supposedly in the A house after the Cindy/Casey argument (pm of 15 June). Cindy didn't see them in the am of 16/6 when she left for work, but supposedly, according to his statements, GA saw them both when they left around 1 pm on that day.

I think this is where GA made a mistake in one of the TV interviews when he was telling the interviewer what he watching when he last saw Caylee, when Casey and she left on the pm of 16 June. He started to say something, then Cindy corrected him.

That, IMO, shows that by the time of that TV interview, CA and GA had gotten together and got their story "straight" as to when Casey and Caylee were seen together last.

Clue #2. Cindy says in the email "It's been over a month now. Am I ever going to see her again?" She is referring to Caylee, as in the sentence that precedes she says that she still hadn't gotten to see pics of Caylee or gotten to speak to her, even though "you told me everyday that you were going to call me"... "but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the hell is going on?"

"Over a month"... that would make it 16 July since Cindy last saw Casey and Caylee, wouldn't it?

Clue #3. The reference to the Anheiser Busch theme Parks takeover... Cindy says "I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch is being taken over by some foreign company"... that didn't want the theme parks. On July 16 Associated Press reported the following:

InBev May Have Plans to Sell Off Busch Theme Parks
http://www.theledger.com/article/200...NEWS/807160390 (http://www.theledger.com/article/20080716/NEWS/807160390)

Out of all the above, the most interesting, IMO, is Cindy saying she doesn't know who to believe anymore alongside saying that "dad" said he went to work at 9, returned home at 6.30 and didn't come home in between...

JMHO


Another slip up was when George went to pick up the car at the pound (after it had been there for 2 weeks) and told LE that he was afraid to open the trunk because he thought that his DAUGHTER or granddaughter might be in it...Meanwhile Cindy stated that Casey was in touch with her everyday, even if they didn't speak...so how could George have thought that it could have been Casey in the trunk? He had to have thought that is was Caylee in there.....

Barbara fl.
12-30-2008, 07:22 PM
It's just totally my opinion but I really don't believe Casey will tell anyone the "real" truth - she tells people "her" truth. I can't see her letting anyone see her vulnerable side, it's almost like the lies keep her in control over other people IDK just how it seems to me


You are so right..."SHE WILL TRUST NO ONE" and she stated in a e.mail...

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 07:22 PM
I'm bringing this over from the other thread... It is my reply to Cury-Us Coyotee's post #581 on this thread: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12594353#post12594353

It refers to an email recovered from Casey's computer which seems to be from Cindy to Casey re Caylee....



Very interesting, Cury-Us.

I believe the email was at least composed, if not also sent, on 16 june. IMO, the email gives 3 clues to the date... Below, I will refer to the sender as Cindy.

Clue #1. Cindy says that "dad said he went to work at 9.00am, returned home at 6.30pm and didn't come home in between."

She also says "I don't know who or what to believe anymore".

IMO, she is referring to the last day (16 June) when Casey and Caylee were supposedly in the A house after the Cindy/Casey argument (pm of 15 June). Cindy didn't see them in the am of 16/6 when she left for work, but supposedly, according to his statements, GA saw them both when they left around 1 pm on that day.

I think this is where GA made a mistake in one of the TV interviews when he was telling the interviewer what he watching when he last saw Caylee, when Casey and she left on the pm of 16 June. He started to say something, then Cindy corrected him.

That, IMO, shows that by the time of that TV interview, CA and GA had gotten together and got their story "straight" as to when Casey and Caylee were seen together last.

Clue #2. Cindy says in the email "It's been over a month now. Am I ever going to see her again?" She is referring to Caylee, as in the sentence that precedes she says that she still hadn't gotten to see pics of Caylee or gotten to speak to her, even though "you told me everyday that you were going to call me"... "but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the hell is going on?"

"Over a month"... that would make it 16 July since Cindy last saw Casey and Caylee, wouldn't it?

Clue #3. The reference to the Anheiser Busch theme Parks takeover... Cindy says "I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch is being taken over by some foreign company"... that didn't want the theme parks. On July 16 Associated Press reported the following:

InBev May Have Plans to Sell Off Busch Theme Parks
http://www.theledger.com/article/200...NEWS/807160390 (http://www.theledger.com/article/20080716/NEWS/807160390)

Out of all the above, the most interesting, IMO, is Cindy saying she doesn't know who to believe anymore alongside saying that "dad" said he went to work at 9, returned home at 6.30 and didn't come home in between...

JMHO

OK, so he didnt see casey leave on the 16th. And to me it reads like in the morning when cindy went to work, the house was a certain way or something to that effect, and when she came home from work something was different and it couldnt of been george....he wasnt home all day. something was different in the house. This was all before they knew something happened. Good pick up about the Busch theme park stuff...that will help LE with dates and times to prove george was lying about seeing casey.

Lyndawitha"Y
12-30-2008, 07:22 PM
Somehow, I dont think any of the Anthony's can even start to grieve the loss of Caylee, (And I do believe they loved that wee girl!), due to their priorities of protecting the living since the very beginning..Both Cindy and George are not so niave to believe anyone but their offspring caused this...but indeed chose to either protect Casey, or at the very least lessen any negative possible family history..i.e. fights, arguements, ultimatums..whatevers. But, for them the wheels fell off that wagon when Caylee was found..and just know they realize what they have ben doing since that fateful call to 911 by Cindy..

Now that Caylee has been found just down the road from their very house, they know the world, along with LE/FBI and Prosecution knows the truth..Caylee is gone, and has been since the giddyup. Due to their agenda and mission to create doubt has exploded in their faces, they now have to worry about the IMPLICATIONS of their actions..Legally, Morally and personally. NOW, they have to worry about their own asses, not just Casey's..and as long as they have this huge issue to deal with, I am certain they simply cannot acknowledge the loss of Caylee, the way they want/can/should! Entirely of their own making tho, at least now they have done what they should have done right from the giddyup..Keep mouths shut, and let spokespeople say what you wish them to know!! as, an aside thi..they could have picked better reps to speak for them..lawyers on most occasions have created more public head scratching!!

I do indeed PITY them for their situation, but for a grave error in judgement, they could have had a swarm of support!!

LMS:ohmy:

Barbara fl.
12-30-2008, 07:23 PM
I wondered if that referred to the comments she had made about Lee's "touching" and her father's abuse that she alleged to her boyfriends and was made public. Casey may not have known what Cindy meant or even that it had been made public.


You have an excellent point.....

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 07:24 PM
Another slip up was when George went to pick up the car at the pound (after it had been there for 2 weeks) and told LE that he was afraid to open the trunk because he thought that his DAUGHTER or granddaughter might be in it...Meanwhile Cindy stated that Casey was in touch with her everyday, even if they didn't speak...so how could George have thought that it could have been Casey in the trunk? He had to have thought that is was Caylee in there.....

thats true, why would he say casey if she was in contact but caylee wasnt.

CANDYKISSES
12-30-2008, 07:24 PM
Something she was afraid Casey would tell. Maybe the fight?


Certainly could be if indeed it did happen. At least that might make sense. JMO

neid_77
12-30-2008, 07:25 PM
I wonder if Nancy Grace will be a repeat tonight or if that nice anchor will be taking her place. Dear Lord don't let it be Jane Valez. That woman gets on my last nerve.


yes her and her defense attorney lawyer lady always think its a conspiracy just like the meter reader the first day we heard about him...was guilty of caylee's murder. The defense lady on there drives me crazy...heck if you listen to her you would have thought casey was 500 miles away from orlando when caylee went missing ...no where in the vicinity of caylee lol...drives me nutts

Rayosunshine
12-30-2008, 07:26 PM
Please pm me the link for the newly discovered pic? Thanks.

Barbara fl.
12-30-2008, 07:26 PM
Somehow, I dont think any of the Anthony's can even start to grieve the loss of Caylee, (And I do believe they loved that wee girl!), due to their priorities of protecting the living since the very beginning..Both Cindy and George are not so niave to believe anyone but their offspring caused this...but indeed chose to either protect Casey, or at the very least lessen any negative possible family history..i.e. fights, arguements, ultimatums..whatevers. But, for them the wheels fell off that wagon when Caylee was found..and just know they realize what they have ben doing since that fateful call to 911 by Cindy..

Now that Caylee has been found just down the road from their very house, they know the world, along with LE/FBI and Prosecution knows the truth..Caylee is gone, and has been since the giddyup. Due to their agenda and mission to create doubt has exploded in their faces, they now have to worry about the IMPLICATIONS of their actions..Legally, Morally and personally. NOW, they have to worry about their own asses, not just Casey's..and as long as they have this huge issue to deal with, I am certain they simply cannot acknowledge the loss of Caylee, the way they want/can/should! Entiely of their own making tho, at least now they have done what they should have done right from the giddyup..Keep mouths shut, and let spokespeople say what you wish them to know!! as, an aside thi..they could have picked better reps to speak for them..lawyers on most occasions have created more public head scratching!!

I do indeed PITY them for their situation, but for a grave error in judgement, they could have had a swarm of support!!

LMS:ohmy:


This case is so simular to the Scott Peterson case...body found after months, both near the accused....both lie to the hilt...both parents going to lenghts and lying to protect their child.....it's scary...I wonder how many more like this are out here....,

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 07:27 PM
Somehow, I dont think any of the Anthony's can even start to grieve the loss of Caylee, (And I do believe they loved that wee girl!), due to their priorities of protecting the living since the very beginning..Both Cindy and George are not so niave to believe anyone but their offspring caused this...but indeed chose to either protect Casey, or at the very least lessen any negative possible family history..i.e. fights, arguements, ultimatums..whatevers. But, for them the wheels fell off that wagon when Caylee was found..and just know they realize what they have ben doing since that fateful call to 911 by Cindy..

Now that Caylee has been found just down the road from their very house, they know the world, along with LE/FBI and Prosecution knows the truth..Caylee is gone, and has been since the giddyup. Due to their agenda and mission to create doubt has exploded in their faces, they now have to worry about the IMPLICATIONS of their actions..Legally, Morally and personally. NOW, they have to worry about their own asses, not just Casey's..and as long as they have this huge issue to deal with, I am certain they simply cannot acknowledge the loss of Caylee, the way they want/can/should! Entiely of their own making tho, at least now they have done what they should have done right from the giddyup..Keep mouths shut, and let spokespeople say what you wish them to know!! as, an aside thi..they could have picked better reps to speak for them..lawyers on most occasions have created more public head scratching!!

I do indeed PITY them for their situation, but for a grave error in judgement, they could have had a swarm of support!!

LMS:ohmy:


Yes now they can no longer say she is with the good kidnappers, look over there, there she is, no look in NC she is there, wait she is in calif..lets go there and look and do the larry king show while we are there, no wait..hold the fort she is in Tenn. GMAB...now she is found, they cant keep covering for casey.

Carol25
12-30-2008, 07:27 PM
I'm bringing this over from the other thread... It is my reply to Cury-Us Coyotee's post #581 on this thread: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12594353#post12594353

It refers to an email recovered from Casey's computer which seems to be from Cindy to Casey re Caylee....



Very interesting, Cury-Us.

I believe the email was at least composed, if not also sent, on 16 june. IMO, the email gives 3 clues to the date... Below, I will refer to the sender as Cindy.

Clue #1. Cindy says that "dad said he went to work at 9.00am, returned home at 6.30pm and didn't come home in between."

She also says "I don't know who or what to believe anymore".

IMO, she is referring to the last day (16 June) when Casey and Caylee were supposedly in the A house after the Cindy/Casey argument (pm of 15 June). Cindy didn't see them in the am of 16/6 when she left for work, but supposedly, according to his statements, GA saw them both when they left around 1 pm on that day.

I think this is where GA made a mistake in one of the TV interviews when he was telling the interviewer what he watching when he last saw Caylee, when Casey and she left on the pm of 16 June. He started to say something, then Cindy corrected him.

That, IMO, shows that by the time of that TV interview, CA and GA had gotten together and got their story "straight" as to when Casey and Caylee were seen together last.

Clue #2. Cindy says in the email "It's been over a month now. Am I ever going to see her again?" She is referring to Caylee, as in the sentence that precedes she says that she still hadn't gotten to see pics of Caylee or gotten to speak to her, even though "you told me everyday that you were going to call me"... "but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the hell is going on?"

"Over a month"... that would make it 16 July since Cindy last saw Casey and Caylee, wouldn't it?

Clue #3. The reference to the Anheiser Busch theme Parks takeover... Cindy says "I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch is being taken over by some foreign company"... that didn't want the theme parks. On July 16 Associated Press reported the following:

InBev May Have Plans to Sell Off Busch Theme Parks
http://www.theledger.com/article/200...NEWS/807160390 (http://www.theledger.com/article/20080716/NEWS/807160390)

Out of all the above, the most interesting, IMO, is Cindy saying she doesn't know who to believe anymore alongside saying that "dad" said he went to work at 9, returned home at 6.30 and didn't come home in between...

JMHO
Excellent! Very good sleuthing! And then he remembers exactly what they are wearing tops, bottoms to the sunglasses!

Barbara fl.
12-30-2008, 07:29 PM
thats true, why would he say casey if she was in contact but caylee wasnt.


That is why I believe that Cindy and George started covering what they thought from the beginning.....George didn't want to just say "I thought Caylee was in the trunk" because LE would have said "what would make you think that?" So he said that he thought that it was his DAUGHTER or granddaughter in there....thus not committing himself to one area.....JMO

PROPROS
12-30-2008, 07:30 PM
I was reviewing one of the visits of the Anthony's with Casey. She had just come back from a visit with the psychologist. Cindy's first comment was, "We forgive you for anything you said." Casey said, "I didn't say anything, don't worry."

What do you make of that? Isn't that a bit strange?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html)In Casey speak it means...I'm not about to help LE or anybody to help find Caylee. I'm covering my own behind and doing what Jose tells me to do. Don't talk...you'll walk!mo

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 07:31 PM
In Casey speak it means...I'm not about to help LE or anybody to help find Caylee. I'm covering my own behind and doing what Jose tells me to do. Don't talk...you'll walk!mo

yep, thats why the panic attack when the body was found. the dont talk u walk defense was out the window. she knew the jig was up.

dvsone
12-30-2008, 07:32 PM
I'm bringing this over from the other thread... It is my reply to Cury-Us Coyotee's post #581 on this thread: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12594353#post12594353

It refers to an email recovered from Casey's computer which seems to be from Cindy to Casey re Caylee....



Very interesting, Cury-Us.

I believe the email was at least composed, if not also sent, on 16 june. IMO, the email gives 3 clues to the date... Below, I will refer to the sender as Cindy.

Clue #1. Cindy says that "dad said he went to work at 9.00am, returned home at 6.30pm and didn't come home in between."

She also says "I don't know who or what to believe anymore".

IMO, she is referring to the last day (16 June) when Casey and Caylee were supposedly in the A house after the Cindy/Casey argument (pm of 15 June). Cindy didn't see them in the am of 16/6 when she left for work, but supposedly, according to his statements, GA saw them both when they left around 1 pm on that day.

I think this is where GA made a mistake in one of the TV interviews when he was telling the interviewer what he watching when he last saw Caylee, when Casey and she left on the pm of 16 June. He started to say something, then Cindy corrected him.

That, IMO, shows that by the time of that TV interview, CA and GA had gotten together and got their story "straight" as to when Casey and Caylee were seen together last.

Clue #2. Cindy says in the email "It's been over a month now. Am I ever going to see her again?" She is referring to Caylee, as in the sentence that precedes she says that she still hadn't gotten to see pics of Caylee or gotten to speak to her, even though "you told me everyday that you were going to call me"... "but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the hell is going on?"

"Over a month"... that would make it 16 July since Cindy last saw Casey and Caylee, wouldn't it?

Clue #3. The reference to the Anheiser Busch theme Parks takeover... Cindy says "I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch is being taken over by some foreign company"... that didn't want the theme parks. On July 16 Associated Press reported the following:

InBev May Have Plans to Sell Off Busch Theme Parks
http://www.theledger.com/article/200...NEWS/807160390 (http://www.theledger.com/article/20080716/NEWS/807160390)

Out of all the above, the most interesting, IMO, is Cindy saying she doesn't know who to believe anymore alongside saying that "dad" said he went to work at 9, returned home at 6.30 and didn't come home in between...

JMHO


The trail is astounding isnt it? ... The A's are in over their heads in my mind.

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 07:32 PM
That is why I believe that Cindy and George started covering what they thought from the beginning.....George didn't want to just say "I thought Caylee was in the trunk" because LE would have said "what would make you think that?" So he said that he thought that it was his DAUGHTER or granddaughter in there....thus not committing himself to one area.....JMO

I think george knew deep down but never let on to cindy, i think cindy knew several minutes after her 3rd 911 call

??WHATthe??
12-30-2008, 07:32 PM
In Casey speak it means...I'm not about to help LE or anybody to help find Caylee. I'm covering my own behind and doing what Jose tells me to do. Don't talk...you'll walk!mo

barf Sorry... I've just heard that name too many times today

Okay... wiping mouth... carry on Pro, didn't mean to interrupt ya!:mellow:

Carol25
12-30-2008, 07:36 PM
OK, so he didnt see casey leave on the 16th. And to me it reads like in the morning when cindy went to work, the house was a certain way or something to that effect, and when she came home from work something was different and it couldnt of been george....he wasnt home all day. something was different in the house. This was all before they knew something happened. Good pick up about the Busch theme park stuff...that will help LE with dates and times to prove george was lying about seeing casey.
I also think he is lying about the 24th visit with Casey. The entire purpose of that lie was to tell LE that he was in the trunk and it didn't smell.

Another telling thing was in the interview with LE where they ask him again about the 24th, George goes into too much detail again.

When he discusses the conversation with casey, he says about 6 times , we would like to visit with Caylee, or something similar, he says Casey's answer is always, "She's fine, Dad." But that wasn't the correct response, was it?

It should have been, we'll be around soon. He kept responding with Casey's answer was "She is fine, Dad." Inappropriate answer.

It's the taped interview from 7/31, maybe #6.

trich
12-30-2008, 07:36 PM
I was reviewing one of the visits of the Anthony's with Casey. She had just come back from a visit with the psychologist. Cindy's first comment was, "We forgive you for anything you said." Casey said, "I didn't say anything, don't worry."

What do you make of that? Isn't that a bit strange?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html)



This whole family situation is strange.
I myself think it is one big conspiracy to hide the truth about what happened to Caylee and protect Casey.

callmetree
12-30-2008, 07:36 PM
Here ya go.

thanks for the new thread play!:biggrin:

CANDYKISSES
12-30-2008, 07:38 PM
That is why I believe that Cindy and George started covering what they thought from the beginning.....George didn't want to just say "I thought Caylee was in the trunk" because LE would have said "what would make you think that?" So he said that he thought that it was his DAUGHTER or granddaughter in there....thus not committing himself to one area.....JMO

Yup, and he has already screwed up enough for Cindy, so putting his head in the sand was all good in the plan. Cindy was navigating once their worst fears were acknowledged IMO. :wink:

True2Blues
12-30-2008, 07:38 PM
This whole family situation is strange.
I myself think it is one big conspiracy to hide the truth about what happened to Caylee and protect Casey.

I'm beginning to think the same thing and I'm not a conspiracy person. It just gets worse and worse as each layer is peeled away.

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 07:38 PM
I think he did see her on the 24th but have no clue as to how any conversations went, but that is where I believe casey got scared and drove around the corner and dumped the body. thinking she would go back and move it but by then her car was towed so she had no means to move body, she couldnt stink up her friends car.

Danette44
12-30-2008, 07:40 PM
I'm bringing this over from the other thread... It is my reply to Cury-Us Coyotee's post #581 on this thread: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12594353#post12594353

It refers to an email recovered from Casey's computer which seems to be from Cindy to Casey re Caylee....



Very interesting, Cury-Us.

I believe the email was at least composed, if not also sent, on 16 june. IMO, the email gives 3 clues to the date... Below, I will refer to the sender as Cindy.

Clue #1. Cindy says that "dad said he went to work at 9.00am, returned home at 6.30pm and didn't come home in between."

She also says "I don't know who or what to believe anymore".

IMO, she is referring to the last day (16 June) when Casey and Caylee were supposedly in the A house after the Cindy/Casey argument (pm of 15 June). Cindy didn't see them in the am of 16/6 when she left for work, but supposedly, according to his statements, GA saw them both when they left around 1 pm on that day.

I think this is where GA made a mistake in one of the TV interviews when he was telling the interviewer what he watching when he last saw Caylee, when Casey and she left on the pm of 16 June. He started to say something, then Cindy corrected him.

That, IMO, shows that by the time of that TV interview, CA and GA had gotten together and got their story "straight" as to when Casey and Caylee were seen together last.

Clue #2. Cindy says in the email "It's been over a month now. Am I ever going to see her again?" She is referring to Caylee, as in the sentence that precedes she says that she still hadn't gotten to see pics of Caylee or gotten to speak to her, even though "you told me everyday that you were going to call me"... "but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the hell is going on?"

"Over a month"... that would make it 16 July since Cindy last saw Casey and Caylee, wouldn't it?

Clue #3. The reference to the Anheiser Busch theme Parks takeover... Cindy says "I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch is being taken over by some foreign company"... that didn't want the theme parks. On July 16 Associated Press reported the following:

InBev May Have Plans to Sell Off Busch Theme Parks
http://www.theledger.com/article/200...NEWS/807160390 (http://www.theledger.com/article/20080716/NEWS/807160390)

Out of all the above, the most interesting, IMO, is Cindy saying she doesn't know who to believe anymore alongside saying that "dad" said he went to work at 9, returned home at 6.30 and didn't come home in between...

JMHO

Don't know if this was mention yet or not - but LE did get copies of Georges "time card", so if he was lying - he was caught....moo

CANDYKISSES
12-30-2008, 07:41 PM
I think george knew deep down but never let on to cindy, i think cindy knew several minutes after her 3rd 911 call

ITA Shel, and that's when the plan to save Casey started IMO. Remember, at one point she even spoke about losing one and not being willing to lose both IIRC. :crying:

enigma
12-30-2008, 07:41 PM
Another slip up was when George went to pick up the car at the pound (after it had been there for 2 weeks) and told LE that he was afraid to open the trunk because he thought that his DAUGHTER or granddaughter might be in it...Meanwhile Cindy stated that Casey was in touch with her everyday, even if they didn't speak...so how could George have thought that it could have been Casey in the trunk? He had to have thought that is was Caylee in there.....

ITA. He meant Caylee. Casey had been communicating with Cindy every day, according to Cindy, so GA would have known that, if anyone, it would be Caylee in the trunk.

JMHO

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 07:41 PM
I wonder what Mark NeJame thought when the Anthonys continuted their Caylee sighting media blitz -I wonder if he thought they were only trying to create reasonable doubt for their daughter and they wanted him to defend their actions by doing so. He seemed like he had their number pretty quickly. imo

Carol25
12-30-2008, 07:42 PM
I think he did see her on the 24th but have no clue as to how any conversations went, but that is where I believe casey got scared and drove around the corner and dumped the body. thinking she would go back and move it but by then her car was towed so she had no means to move body, she couldnt stink up her friends car.
That could be. Oh, I remember early on when Forensics went in to the Anthony's home and Cand G had to leave. The team put black paper up on the windows. My first thought was they were putting bugs in the house.

Just when and where were George making and plotting all of these stories up? Were they taped? If they were, Oh, do they have the goods on them!

enigma
12-30-2008, 07:43 PM
Don't know if this was mention yet or not - but LE did get copies of Georges "time card", so if he was lying - he was caught....moo

Oh, I think LE has that, and a lot more. What I based my post on is information that LE made available in the public domain, and it's explosive. Imagine what they have that hasn't been released!

JMHO

CANDYKISSES
12-30-2008, 07:43 PM
I think he did see her on the 24th but have no clue as to how any conversations went, but that is where I believe casey got scared and drove around the corner and dumped the body. thinking she would go back and move it but by then her car was towed so she had no means to move body, she couldnt stink up her friends car.

Now you're starting to give Casey too much credit...:scared:J/K.

I think she was overwhelmed with FEAR when she ran into George that day too, but she sure used that toxic tongue of hers to give him he**, didn't she?

Apparently, he was not going to get in the TRUNK under any terms IMO.

PROPROS
12-30-2008, 07:44 PM
barf Sorry... I've just heard that name too many times today

Okay... wiping mouth... carry on Pro, didn't mean to interrupt ya!:mellow:I know what you mean...The name Casey will never set right with me again...and now we have Dominic Casey...what is it with these Caseys,Caseys, Caseys....:cursing:

dixie77
12-30-2008, 07:45 PM
Please pm me the link for the newly discovered pic? Thanks.

===========

I sent it to u, Isabelle

True2Blues
12-30-2008, 07:45 PM
Oh, I think LE has that, and a lot more. What I based my post on is information that LE made available in the public domain, and it's explosive. Imagine what they have that hasn't been released!

JMHO

Boggles the mind doesn't it?

Carol25
12-30-2008, 07:45 PM
Whoever said they might have an Anthony wing at the prison might be right! :glare:

PROPROS
12-30-2008, 07:46 PM
ITA Shel, and that's when the plan to save Casey started IMO. Remember, at one point she even spoke about losing one and not being willing to lose both IIRC. :crying:IIRC, she told Richard Grund "I could lose both my girls on this one"mo

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 07:46 PM
That could be. Oh, I remember early on when Forensics went in to the Anthony's home and Cand G had to leave. The team put black paper up on the windows. My first thought was they were putting bugs in the house.

Just when and where were George making and plotting all of these stories up? Were they taped? If they were, Oh, do they have the goods on them!

I read cindy and casey would go into the bathroom to talk or they would write notes, maybe the entire family used the bathroom to talk.

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 07:46 PM
I'm beginning to think the same thing and I'm not a conspiracy person. It just gets worse and worse as each layer is peeled away.


There will be sooooo much more brought out (or lied about) in court -

Do all the courts allow camera's in the court room? Even if they get the venue switch?

I'll would love to be there live but I will just be sick if I can't watch it ! I can't wait for Baez to tell us all the "other half" of the story he said he so desparately wants to tell us. IMO

norwood
12-30-2008, 07:46 PM
This case is so simular to the Scott Peterson case...body found after months, both near the accused....both lie to the hilt...both parents going to lenghts and lying to protect their child.....it's scary...I wonder how many more like this are out here....,

It is actually fairly common with parents of criminals no matter what crime they commit. During my time working in the office with defense lawyers I always heard that coming out of parents mouths. Let me say that I hated, absolutely hated worked the defense side of the law. The money was good and I had my only child in college getting 3 degrees at one time, so money was a huge issue lol.

What is a little bewildering is the public persona that the Peterson's and the Anthony's have created for themselves.

enigma
12-30-2008, 07:46 PM
The trail is astounding isnt it? ... The A's are in over their heads in my mind.

Certainly is. That's what happens when you lie to cover up another lie and you repeat the process ad infinitum. Ya get caught in them!

JMHO

True2Blues
12-30-2008, 07:47 PM
Whoever said they might have an Anthony wing at the prison might be right! :glare:

That works for me.

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 07:48 PM
Whoever said they might have an Anthony wing at the prison might be right! :glare:

I read earlier today from another poster, it would be cheaper to bars on the A home and keep them all there, just drop in prison food once a day. see who is the sole survivor after a month

norwood
12-30-2008, 07:49 PM
There will be sooooo much more brought out (or lied about) in court -

Do all the courts allow camera's in the court room? Even if they get the venue switch?

I'll would love to be there live but I will just be sick if I can't watch it ! I can't wait for Baez to tell us all the "other half" of the story he said he so desparately wants to tell us. IMO


The Judge will decide if he wants cameras in his/hercourt or not. Either the prosecution or the defense can object but in the end the Judge makes the decision. Like you, I really want this one to be on TV so I can watch.

According to my Dr visit today I am not going back to work anytime soon so I am hoping that the March trail date does not get changed.

Carol25
12-30-2008, 07:49 PM
There will be sooooo much more brought out (or lied about) in court -

Do all the courts allow camera's in the court room? Even if they get the venue switch?

I'll would love to be there live but I will just be sick if I can't watch it ! I can't wait for Baez to tell us all the "other half" of the story he said he so desparately wants to tell us. IMO
Wonder how many people will put in for vacation time when the trial date is set. Then just before the trial starts, there is a run on popcorn, chips and bonbons. Maybe some beer and wine.

Mimi428
12-30-2008, 07:49 PM
I do believe the psychosocial background will be very interesting in this case.

Oooooh, that must be the understatement of the year. Probably next year, too.

I am not at all certain what the subject might have been when Casey told her mother not to worry because she (Casey) didn't say anything. It seems to me that the entire bunch pretty much epitomizes the "don't talk, don't tell" model. It is as if there is so much shame, so much guilt, so much fear of being exposed for something, that they are all busy working overtime to hide it. They'd be a fun bunch in an Al Anon, ACOA or other 12-step type of program, discussing disfunctional families & all that, it seems to me.

But then I look at the horror of what we have seen in Casey & it reminds me that no matter who you are, no matter how accomplished your coping skills, the day you are presented with a psychopath in your house is the day you will know what h#ll is like. I really, truly believe Casey has been a nightmare to her parents from the time she was a very young child. I think she has caused them so much grief & horror & shame way before any of this happened that they have probably had a ton of days where they would just like to go crawl into a hole & then pull the hole in after them.

When I read the reports of how CASEY SAID that her father & her brother behaved improperly, it strikes me as something that could be just as easily untrue as true. On the one hand (& I think this is the dominant hand) she lies with impunity.

On the other hand, if you are the sort of person who is inclined to behave in a sexually inappropirate way - the best person for you to target is one that you know to be a liar in other areas - because the chances are highly increased that they will not be believed.

JMO

enigma
12-30-2008, 07:49 PM
Whoever said they might have an Anthony wing at the prison might be right! :glare:

LOL! Wonder where Casey will hide?... There's no getting away... :blink:

smileyjoe
12-30-2008, 07:50 PM
Now you're starting to give Casey too much credit...:scared:J/K.

I think she was overwhelmed with FEAR when she ran into George that day too, but she sure used that toxic tongue of hers to give him he**, didn't she?

Apparently, he was not going to get in the TRUNK under any terms IMO.

I have always wondered WHY he thought he had to think of something in order to GET INTO the trunk in the first place?

What did he think was in there?

The whole story about wanting the block seemed contrived to me, anyone else?

Carol25
12-30-2008, 07:50 PM
Maybe that was a 'luminal' check in the house. (reason for black on windows)jmo
Right! And a perfect time to deposit bugs!

bluwaters
12-30-2008, 07:51 PM
Please Light a Candle for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose::rose::rose:

Carol25
12-30-2008, 07:51 PM
I read earlier today from another poster, it would be cheaper to bars on the A home and keep them all there, just drop in prison food once a day. see who is the sole survivor after a month
Too good! Put cameras in there for a reality show!

Okay, no more laughing...bad me.

cassidy
12-30-2008, 07:52 PM
LOL! Wonder where Casey will hide?... There's no getting away... :blink:

Jose could go in and "consult" with her 8 hours a day :laugh:

norwood
12-30-2008, 07:52 PM
Wonder how many people will put in for vacation time when the trial date is set. Then just before the trial starts, there is a run on popcorn, chips and bonbons. Maybe some beer and wine.

I want a cheese ball, crackers, and olives please

gogo
12-30-2008, 07:52 PM
do we know if Le has the book that Caylee was reading in the video. Is it missing. ? If in fact that was a book at the site don't we assume the LE went to The Anthonys' to recover the book? Why are we all talking about this book. ?? Was it missing? to be honest I cannot make it out to be a book. looks like a patch of moss. lol gogo

neid_77
12-30-2008, 07:52 PM
There will be sooooo much more brought out (or lied about) in court -

Do all the courts allow camera's in the court room? Even if they get the venue switch?

I'll would love to be there live but I will just be sick if I can't watch it ! I can't wait for Baez to tell us all the "other half" of the story he said he so desparately wants to tell us. IMO

yes so desperate he asked for a the trial to be prolonged...wonder how long the moron will prolong the trail for really think it will happen in march?.........i hope casey's money runs out and she sits in there for a very long time..before the trail

LindaNJ1216
12-30-2008, 07:52 PM
Please pm me the link for the newly discovered pic? Thanks.

If you got it...can you or someone else plese PM it to me? Thank you:)

cassidy
12-30-2008, 07:53 PM
florida does allow camera in the court room, but I guess judge could ask that it be closed session. jmo

Youknow what? I was just thinking today that if I were the judge, I wouldn't allow cameras in my courtroom. Good thing I'm not a judge because I want to watch this one :)

Danette44
12-30-2008, 07:54 PM
Oh, I think LE has that, and a lot more. What I based my post on is information that LE made available in the public domain, and it's explosive. Imagine what they have that hasn't been released!

JMHO

That was a great post thanks! I also feel the duct tape will be the smoking gun and I'm curious if it's the type that Amy had and not regular duct tape. I believe also they have alot we haven't heard - no GJ would come back with 1st degree murder without more information.....George spilled his guts out in more ways than one. moo

boo
12-30-2008, 07:54 PM
Thanks to everyone who sent the link. I came back from lunch and voila, it was everywhere!

Something still gnawing at me about Lee retrieving that computer and her overnight bag. Weren't the cops already at the A's house, talking to Cindy and Casey? Why was Lee even allowed to go and pick up something as important as a suspect's computer and overnight bag? I realize that everything then was preliminary and unknown, but what was known was that a 2 year old girl was missing and her mother didn't have an explanation. I can't get past them letting him go and get her stuff and possibly manipulate circumstances.

Help me here... am I missing something? If the cops knew he was going to pick up her computer/phone/bag, did they specifically tell him not to touch anything (not that that is an excuse) but if they didn't, he could always play stupid(er) and say he didn't know what he was doing and didn't know he wasn't allowed to access her computer.

shellzbi
12-30-2008, 07:54 PM
There will be sooooo much more brought out (or lied about) in court -

Do all the courts allow camera's in the court room? Even if they get the venue switch?

I'll would love to be there live but I will just be sick if I can't watch it ! I can't wait for Baez to tell us all the "other half" of the story he said he so desparately wants to tell us. IMO


Florida has a very liberal policy regarding camera's in the courtroom.

AbbyNormal
12-30-2008, 07:55 PM
I wonder what Mark NeJame thought when the Anthonys continuted their Caylee sighting media blitz -I wonder if he thought they were only trying to create reasonable doubt for their daughter and they wanted him to defend their actions by doing so. He seemed like he had their number pretty quickly. imoHe did make a gracious and timely exit.

Wasn't NeJame representing CA & GA early on in all this? It always seemed odd to me that the A's had a well known criminal defense attorney. (Another reason I think CA is protecting CA and not Casey).

CA has only been quiet in the media since Caylee has been found. I don't think their new attorney, Conway, would have had any sucess keeping CA out of the spotlight if Caylee had not been found.

Oregongal
12-30-2008, 07:55 PM
Somehow, I dont think any of the Anthony's can even start to grieve the loss of Caylee, (And I do believe they loved that wee girl!), due to their priorities of protecting the living since the very beginning..Both Cindy and George are not so niave to believe anyone but their offspring caused this...but indeed chose to either protect Casey, or at the very least lessen any negative possible family history..i.e. fights, arguements, ultimatums..whatevers. But, for them the wheels fell off that wagon when Caylee was found..and just know they realize what they have ben doing since that fateful call to 911 by Cindy..

Now that Caylee has been found just down the road from their very house, they know the world, along with LE/FBI and Prosecution knows the truth..Caylee is gone, and has been since the giddyup. Due to their agenda and mission to create doubt has exploded in their faces, they now have to worry about the IMPLICATIONS of their actions..Legally, Morally and personally. NOW, they have to worry about their own asses, not just Casey's..and as long as they have this huge issue to deal with, I am certain they simply cannot acknowledge the loss of Caylee, the way they want/can/should! Entirely of their own making tho, at least now they have done what they should have done right from the giddyup..Keep mouths shut, and let spokespeople say what you wish them to know!! as, an aside thi..they could have picked better reps to speak for them..lawyers on most occasions have created more public head scratching!!

I do indeed PITY them for their situation, but for a grave error in judgement, they could have had a swarm of support!!

LMS:ohmy:

Excellent post Lynda!
:wub:

CANDYKISSES
12-30-2008, 07:56 PM
I have always wondered WHY he thought he had to think of something in order to GET INTO the trunk in the first place?

What did he think was in there?

The whole story about wanting the block seemed contrived to me, anyone else?

I have learned so much from this bunch watching their interviews, that it wouldn't surprise me if George suspected she was hiding something and was trying to get past her.

From George, no truer words were spoken than when he was with the two detectives and told them what it's like living with two controlling women like Cindy and Casey....:ohmy: What a point of enlightenment that was for me. Can you imagine trying to survive between Cindy and Casey? Until Caylee was born, I'll bet George was like one of those STRETCH DOLLS...then poor Caylee probably got it IMOO. :angry:

I think Lee tried to appease and stayed under the radar as far as the women battles for control of dysfunction. JMOOC.

enigma
12-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Calalily brought up a very interesting point in the previous thread (post #1106):
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12595306&posted=1#post12595306

This is to elementary, I can't believe I've missed it! Caylee was last seen on 15 June, Caylee left with Casey on 16 June.

So between the evening of 15 June and the early afternoon of 16 June (if GA's statements are to be believed), when exactly did Casey have time to drop off Caylee at the nanny's, or take Caylee to the park to be kidnapped by Zanny, Samantha et co.???

There goes the "nanny" and "kidnapping" defense, in several strokes of the keyboard!

JMHO

norwood
12-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Do we know if the it will be the same Judge that has been handling the case so far or if it will go before a different Judge? Guess I am wondering if the ask for and get a change of venue would the Judge travel with them to the new venue?

bluwaters
12-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Did Baez ever pick up those tips that he didn't want to pay for?

If he did, then the defense would have had the MR's 3 911 calls in August.

That could give them a reason for the PI to be there video taping the scene in Nov. You know, conducting their own search. :cool:

If Baez never picked up those tips that he ordered, then, yep, somebody's got some splainin to do.

Lyndawitha"Y
12-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Yes now they can no longer say she is with the good kidnappers, look over there, there she is, no look in NC she is there, wait she is in calif..lets go there and look and do the larry king show while we are there, no wait..hold the fort she is in Tenn. GMAB...now she is found, they cant keep covering for casey.

In all due respect to your response, I think my point was that the Anthony's will never be able to grieve, until all this gets settled in court..and that is why I pity (not sympathy) them and no one should ever expect them to behave as most of us would..simply because most of us would never sacrifice our integrity to do what this family did!!

Having said that, this is the Cross this family will have to bare for the remainder of their lives!!I for one would never wish to be in that position..ever!! If they end up legally having to pay their dues, then so be it..as they did have legal council from the giddy up..no excuses there!!. The Petersons in no way hindered or obstructed..they only supported (believed) their son..and that is their right to do so!!

We, can maybe judge what the Anthony's did, but we can never judge why they did it...as they will have to deal with the why's in their own hearts and the whats will be possibly judged by a court..Wouldnt want to be there...Nope!

LMS:blushing:

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Wonder how many people will put in for vacation time when the trial date is set. Then just before the trial starts, there is a run on popcorn, chips and bonbons. Maybe some beer and wine.



Bigger pull than any trial - bigger than the OJ maybe? (1st OJ) I watched that trial every second I got sneaking away from my desk - even took sick days to watch it. I can't imagine a higher rating for CourtTV(RealTv) I think we all know the players on both sides won't object to cameras imo

CANDYKISSES
12-30-2008, 07:58 PM
That was a great post thanks! I also feel the duct tape will be the smoking gun and I'm curious if it's the type that Amy had and not regular duct tape. I believe also they have alot we haven't heard - no GJ would come back with 1st degree murder without more information.....George spilled his guts out in more ways than one. moo

I really want to believe that Danette, just to think that someone in that family finally took a STAND FOR CAYLEE would be good to know. They certainly have invested much into this farce to save Casey, haven't they?

:cursing:

dvsone
12-30-2008, 07:59 PM
Certainly is. That's what happens when you lie to cover up another lie and you repeat the process ad infinitum. Ya get caught in them!

JMHO

It also leaves you very little wiggle room. Good liars NEVER give details. Always vague. That way they can bend where needed.

gaelicpeas
12-30-2008, 07:59 PM
do we know if Le has the book that Caylee was reading in the video. Is it missing. ? If in fact that was a book at the site don't we assume the LE went to The Anthonys' to recover the book? Why are we all talking about this book. ?? Was it missing? to be honest I cannot make it out to be a book. looks like a patch of moss. lol gogo

As far as I know, we don't know if LE has "the book" nor do we know whether it is "missing".

We are talking about it because it appears to be the same book in one of the crime scene photos. Whatever it is, it is something with a sharp straight edge (like a book and unlike a patch of moss).

Also, in Casey's supposed call from Caylee around noon on July 15, Casey reports that Caylee was talking about things from that book and even says (paraphrasing) "we have video of her reading that exact book" (i.e., the Father's Day video at the assisted living facility). JMO

Ionmhainn
12-30-2008, 08:00 PM
In trying to figure out what charges LA might possibly face, my mind immediately went to "computer." But, last night, on NG, when they played the jailhouse tape again, he asks Casey about a place known to another friend, to which she replies that he has hit the nail on the head. That's not verbatim, so I'll say IMO, but it did make me recall KioM and the "hangout." Did anyone else catch that, and if so what did you make of it? TIA

Neffy
12-30-2008, 08:00 PM
I was reviewing one of the visits of the Anthony's with Casey. She had just come back from a visit with the psychologist. Cindy's first comment was, "We forgive you for anything you said." Casey said, "I didn't say anything, don't worry."

What do you make of that? Isn't that a bit strange?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html)

This is Classic sociopathic with the lies coming from Cindy and Casey.
Geez This one gets me so riled.

Cindy: Is that Zanny's apartment the one with the drums.
Casey: She had a drum set yea.
Cindy: The one in the picture
Casey: I think there are even other pictures I told Lee to look thru everything.
Cindy: OK is that Zannys Apartment - Because I know whose apartment it is. IS it Zanny's apartment.
Casey: That exact apartment that was Ricardo's apartment it was set up alot like Zanny's apartment.
Cindy: Do we have any pictures of Zanny's apartment.
Casey: Mom .... Lee and I already talked about that. I don't know it could be on the disk at home. I don't know

GOOD GRIEF! Zanny the drummer.

See her lying right there would have sent me thru that window.
Cindy lying the family believes she's done nothing wrong everyone sends their love

Still asking for money to make COLLECT CALLS :scared:

I can't stand it.

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 08:01 PM
yes so desperate he asked for a the trial to be prolonged...wonder how long the moron will prolong the trail for really think it will happen in march?.........i hope casey's money runs out and she sits in there for a very long time..before the trail



She will always have money in her account imo there will always be someone who wants to feel part of the case or to contact her - nuts that want to marry her - she will never be hurting for stamp money. imo

PuffDragon
12-30-2008, 08:01 PM
I wonder if Nancy Grace will be a repeat tonight or if that nice anchor will be taking her place. Dear Lord don't let it be Jane Valez. That woman gets on my last nerve.

Do you mean Jean Casarez who was on last night? I have always liked her a lot, she's a really good reporter and doesn't get all excited, and wouldn't you know I couldn't stay awake last night and I missed all but the beginning ten minutes of the program all three times. I hope she's on again too. Nancy has a big special airing on the case on Thursday night, I believe.

CANDYKISSES
12-30-2008, 08:01 PM
I think Casey relishes being in jail right now. She was so proud when she had the visit with her parents about how when she is on the floor, nobody else is allowed on and when another inmate walks through, they have to take her into protective custody in another room with a lock. She was pleased as punch when she glared at her mother and said "it's for my own protection" as if to say, which is more than I can say you ever did for me you biotch!

She will have a rude awakening when she is thrown in with the general population at the women's big house.

OMG,you seem to have Casey's thoughts down pretty well January. I was LOL when I read your little kiss-off response and I can see Casey doing just that too. :sneaky:

Just like the bedroom reconstruction and Casey can't sleep in there, I think Cindy and Casey both play little mind games for control. JMO tho. :w00t:

smileyjoe
12-30-2008, 08:01 PM
I have learned so much from this bunch watching their interviews, that it wouldn't surprise me if George suspected she was hiding something and was trying to get past her.

From George, no truer words were spoken than when he was with the two detectives and told them what it's like living with two controlling women like Cindy and Casey....:ohmy: What a point of enlightenment that was for me. Can you imagine trying to survive between Cindy and Casey? Until Caylee was born, I'll bet George was like one of those STRETCH DOLLS...then poor Caylee probably got it IMOO. :angry:

I think Lee tried to appease and stayed under the radar as far as the women battles for control of dysfunction. JMOOC.


Maybe it was just thinking he would find the gas cans. I don't know. He sure wanted to peek inside that trunk though.

Good observation. He could have left if he wanted to couldn't he? Is Florida a "no fault" divorce state? If so, one party cannot stop a divorce if the other one files. Many states are like that.

rbrnmw
12-30-2008, 08:01 PM
I wondered if anyone else noticed that - I sure did. The whole situation has too many oddities I wouldn't want anyone to look at my life with a microscope -or as many people as are disecting her/their lives, but I know you couldn't get anything like this - people would be bored out of their minds looking at my life lol
imo

mine too their eyes would cross and they would pass out from boredom

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 08:03 PM
Thanks to everyone who sent the link. I came back from lunch and voila, it was everywhere!

Something still gnawing at me about Lee retrieving that computer and her overnight bag. Weren't the cops already at the A's house, talking to Cindy and Casey? Why was Lee even allowed to go and pick up something as important as a suspect's computer and overnight bag? I realize that everything then was preliminary and unknown, but what was known was that a 2 year old girl was missing and her mother didn't have an explanation. I can't get past them letting him go and get her stuff and possibly manipulate circumstances.

Help me here... am I missing something? If the cops knew he was going to pick up her computer/phone/bag, did they specifically tell him not to touch anything (not that that is an excuse) but if they didn't, he could always play stupid(er) and say he didn't know what he was doing and didn't know he wasn't allowed to access her computer.


I bet LE wished they had to do it all over again. Also, why did they let cindy go through caseys purse, why didnt they talk the receipts.

Carol25
12-30-2008, 08:03 PM
Did Baez ever pick up those tips that he didn't want to pay for?

If he did, then the defense would have had the MR's 3 911 calls in August.

That could give them a reason for the PI to be there video taping the scene in Nov. You know, conducting their own search. :cool:

If Baez never picked up those tips that he ordered, then, yep, somebody's got some splainin to do.
I think those tips were on "live sitings" weren't they?

AbbyNormal
12-30-2008, 08:04 PM
I have always wondered WHY he thought he had to think of something in order to GET INTO the trunk in the first place?

What did he think was in there?

The whole story about wanting the block seemed contrived to me, anyone else?Yes, I agree! The story about the stolen gas cans seems odd to me also.

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 08:04 PM
I think Casey relishes being in jail right now. She was so proud when she had the visit with her parents about how when she is on the floor, nobody else is allowed on and when another inmate walks through, they have to take her into protective custody in another room with a lock. She was pleased as punch when she glared at her mother and said "it's for my own protection" as if to say, which is more than I can say you ever did for me you biotch!

She will have a rude awakening when she is thrown in with the general population at the women's big house.


Ohhh I think she is settling in just fine in jail and if they put Life back on the table she will be segregated forever and until she is no longer in eminent danger - if that will ever happen - she will probably never see general pop and if she does ... need I say Jeff Dahmer..............imo

True2Blues
12-30-2008, 08:07 PM
Jayne Weintraub comes up with some interesting statements "This is not a time for investigators to ask questions. The investigation is over they've charged her."

I do believe that the investigation opened back up when Caylee's remains were found, there JW. :rolleyes:

Daffodil
12-30-2008, 08:07 PM
Please pm me the link for the newly discovered pic? Thanks.

Could you pm me with the pictures too? I am trying to catch up. When did lee get attorney? Who is his attorney? Anthony's say anything yet?

THANKS!!!

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 08:08 PM
I'm sorry but if the Anthony's had been more upfront and honest, not speaking in codes with Casey, not acting like they have something to hide, not antagonizing the police and the kind-hearted souls who gave up their time and their jobs to search in the muck, not attacked anyone who tried to help, they would have had a nation worth of support. They did this to themselves. They created this and as my grandmother would say, they made their bed, they gotta lay in it.

I agree, if they acted differently, the world be sympathetice towards them, now its to late.

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 08:08 PM
This is Classic sociopathic with the lies coming from Cindy and Casey.
Geez This one gets me so riled.

Cindy: Is that Zanny's apartment the one with the drums.
Casey: She had a drum set yea.
Cindy: The one in the picture
Casey: I think there are even other pictures I told Lee to look thru everything.
Cindy: OK is that Zannys Apartment - Because I know whose apartment it is. IS it Zanny's apartment.
Casey: That exact apartment that was Ricardo's apartment it was set up alot like Zanny's apartment.
Cindy: Do we have any pictures of Zanny's apartment.
Casey: Mom .... Lee and I already talked about that. I don't know it could be on the disk at home. I don't know

GOOD GRIEF! Zanny the drummer.

See her lying right there would have sent me thru that window.
Cindy lying the family believes she's done nothing wrong everyone sends their love

Still asking for money to make COLLECT CALLS :scared:

I can't stand it.


I sooo loved this convo.... my Mom would have busted my a&& two seconds into me tripping and backtracking and just plain out lying - but again....... I am sure Cindy was grasping at anything at this point, I'm sure she so wanted to believe Casey, she had to want to. IMO

dvsone
12-30-2008, 08:11 PM
In trying to figure out what charges LA might possibly face, my mind immediately went to "computer." But, last night, on NG, when they played the jailhouse tape again, he asks Casey about a place known to another friend, to which she replies that he has hit the nail on the head. That's not verbatim, so I'll say IMO, but it did make me recall KioM and the "hangout." Did anyone else catch that, and if so what did you make of it? TIA

Yes .. we almost all agree they were talking in some codespeak of theirs.... to which is most interesting. Id love to see it explained away. See how that spaghetti bowl ends up.

CANDYKISSES
12-30-2008, 08:11 PM
I think there is alot of between the lines conversations between all of these people. I think that when Cindy said "you are alot like me" and Casey turned around and said "I'm alot like you. That's exactly right" I think what they were doing was calling each other "spiteful biotches". I'm not kidding.

Oh, ITA. I see much of this going on too. I can only imagine how Caylee was used in the game. Such a sad outcome. :crying:

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 08:12 PM
Did Baez ever pick up those tips that he didn't want to pay for?

If he did, then the defense would have had the MR's 3 911 calls in August.

That could give them a reason for the PI to be there video taping the scene in Nov. You know, conducting their own search. :cool:

If Baez never picked up those tips that he ordered, then, yep, somebody's got some splainin to do.


OMG I totally do not think they ever coughed up the money - were they even ready by November when I PI went out there - I never put that together .. hmmm

Neffy
12-30-2008, 08:12 PM
Do we know if the it will be the same Judge that has been handling the case so far or if it will go before a different Judge? Guess I am wondering if the ask for and get a change of venue would the Judge travel with them to the new venue?


Traveling Judge? Never heard of that :)

Mimi428
12-30-2008, 08:12 PM
Maybe it was just thinking he would find the gas cans. I don't know. He sure wanted to peek inside that trunk though.

Good observation. He could have left if he wanted to couldn't he? Is Florida a "no fault" divorce state? If so, one party cannot stop a divorce if the other one files. Many states are like that.

I'm not saying that I think the Anthony household was a place of peace & serenity, but I don't think George was at all willing to get out. He was on a gravy train with biscuit wheels financially. His employment has been reported to be quite sporadic. His wife, if we are to believe the emails which were sent way before all of this broke, was the main support of the family. I believe George admitted to LE that he had been involved in some mighty costly financial follies.

I actually think Cindy might have been better off if she had told George that HE could take responsiblity for their daughter from the age of around 17, walked out the door, walked away from her fights with Casey, gone on to something a great deal less stressful, etc. From what we know so far, Cindy seems to have been the only one actually willing to confront Casey about anything. I am not recalling right at the moment that her dad pushed her about anything.

JMO

Carol25
12-30-2008, 08:12 PM
I am new here ,I came from another message board .TOO many off topic posts there for me ,hope thats not the case here ! I do know alot about the case and want to join in .I hope no one is offended I tend to have much sympathy for Cindy , some don't like that ,but I won't find that here will I ?


Anyway , what do yall think about the PI:biggrin: who filmed the crime scene in November , pretty interesting huh , any ideas on how he knew to do that ?
Casey was the only one that had the information. From the spokesman from the defense, it may have come from their conversations. At least Baez doesn't want that information discussed with LE.

Welcome!!

Pruddennce
12-30-2008, 08:13 PM
OK, so he didnt see casey leave on the 16th. And to me it reads like in the morning when cindy went to work, the house was a certain way or something to that effect, and when she came home from work something was different and it couldnt of been george....he wasnt home all day. something was different in the house. This was all before they knew something happened. Good pick up about the Busch theme park stuff...that will help LE with dates and times to prove george was lying about seeing casey.

I think LE already knows GA was lying about the 16th, seeing Caylee. in his LE interview he states: "He was ALMOST POSITIVE Casey's car was in the driveway'' he was almost positive? he never saw them on the NITE of the 15th. He said he got home a little after 11pm. He said he worked the 3 to 11pm shift on June 15th.

page 9

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20aug4.pdf

he only mentions he sees them at 12:50pm on the 16th when they were leaving.....if they were in the house all nite, he gave no indication as to what either one of them were doing all morning.

its my belief LE knows it was a bogus account.

secondly, Casey was back to the house on the 17th, with her car backed into the driveway, per neighbor Burner.

the 18th and 19th is, according to Burner, shovel day, she was back again to the house (and I can lay down odds that Burner drilled that date down with the help of his family)...with the car backed in again.

then, she was back AGAIN on the 20th, backing into the garage.

and then of course she was back again, IIRC, on the 23rd with Tony. to steal the gas cans. that has been confirmed by Tony.

and all the while Cindy thinks she is away in Jacksonville? of course things were being 'moved around'...Casey was in and out of the house after the 15th of June numerous times.

and item(s) found with Caylee's remains are IMO, what provoked LE to obtain search warrants immediately after her discovery.

best regards,
Pru

boo
12-30-2008, 08:13 PM
I bet LE wished they had to do it all over again. Also, why did they let cindy go through caseys purse, why didnt they talk the receipts.


YES! That too. Why was Cindy ever left alone with Casey's purse? Especially since at the moment, the cops were IN the house! That just blows me away. Unfortunately for LE, no do-overs.

enigma
12-30-2008, 08:14 PM
This is Classic sociopathic with the lies coming from Cindy and Casey.
Geez This one gets me so riled.

Cindy: Is that Zanny's apartment the one with the drums.
Casey: She had a drum set yea.
Cindy: The one in the picture
Casey: I think there are even other pictures I told Lee to look thru everything.
Cindy: OK is that Zannys Apartment - Because I know whose apartment it is. IS it Zanny's apartment.
Casey: That exact apartment that was Ricardo's apartment it was set up alot like Zanny's apartment.
Cindy: Do we have any pictures of Zanny's apartment.
Casey: Mom .... Lee and I already talked about that. I don't know it could be on the disk at home. I don't know

GOOD GRIEF! Zanny the drummer.

See her lying right there would have sent me thru that window.
Cindy lying the family believes she's done nothing wrong everyone sends their love

Still asking for money to make COLLECT CALLS :scared:

I can't stand it.

That exchange re Zanny's apartment... Looked at with Cindy's statement that the nanny was a longtime friend... and her email to Lee where she gets mad with him because he keeps asking who else has seen this nanny except Casey, are there any pictures of her... and Cindy says I have pictures of her apartment...

Remember that discussion in the last couple of days?... Rick was SO incensed at Cindy for not wanting to see what was staring her in the face...

JMHO

dvsone
12-30-2008, 08:15 PM
Thanks to everyone who sent the link. I came back from lunch and voila, it was everywhere!

Something still gnawing at me about Lee retrieving that computer and her overnight bag. Weren't the cops already at the A's house, talking to Cindy and Casey? Why was Lee even allowed to go and pick up something as important as a suspect's computer and overnight bag? I realize that everything then was preliminary and unknown, but what was known was that a 2 year old girl was missing and her mother didn't have an explanation. I can't get past them letting him go and get her stuff and possibly manipulate circumstances.

Help me here... am I missing something? If the cops knew he was going to pick up her computer/phone/bag, did they specifically tell him not to touch anything (not that that is an excuse) but if they didn't, he could always play stupid(er) and say he didn't know what he was doing and didn't know he wasn't allowed to access her computer.

I think they had the cops snowed for a lil short time. What LE would let civilians go get something they think may contain evidence.. that they may need? ... makes no sense. Wonder if Casey just told Lee to grab it before they could!

Jeepers
12-30-2008, 08:16 PM
I bet everyday life before this happened to Caylee was comical situation. Not comical in a good way.
Poor Cindy dragging her self to work trying to keep everything afloat.
George dragging his arse to the TV to watch his favorite shows in the meantime get a job lose a job get a job lose a job
Casey trying to find someone to pawn Caylee off on the Grunds, never paid, Lied to Lauren Gibons, she kept Caylee for eight months thinking she was helping Casey out knowing she was a single mom, she was never paid. Lied to. Cindy when she got her dead tired arse home from work.
Casey stealing credit cards,checks, money constant lying and a lot of fussing and fighting. Cindy is tired of George and no job. Cindy is tired of Casey that she thought she was not working but went along with it even though she never saw a dime to help with Caylee. Cindy was covering for Casey with grandparents stealing checks. Lies, Lies, and more lies.
Casey trying to sneak around George with her make believe job. George trying to sneak around Cindy with his gambling scam he got into that Cindy had to pay for. George trying to keep a job to keep Cindy happy thinking he was gonna help out. Lies, Lies, and more lies
They are all just a sneaky lying, thieving bunch. This what they do, This is how they live. They don't know how to be honest. They could not even be honest when their granddaughters life depended on it.
So why do I expect anything different now. They all need to go to jail.

MiamiNice1
12-30-2008, 08:16 PM
Yes .. we almost all agree they were talking in some codespeak of theirs.... to which is most interesting. Id love to see it explained away. See how that spaghetti bowl ends up.

:seeya: Thanks for sending the pic, dvsone! Mighty kind of you.

My opinion is that he is a younger, better looking version of Lee (and that is creepy, in and of itself!)

imo

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 08:17 PM
I'm not even going to get into the power struggle going on under that roof between the four of them. I will say that when my kids were teens and we were paying for their cars (yes, we paid half for their cars and sometimes shelled out for the insurance payments when they were strapped) my husband had a set of keys for their cars and guess what. When he wanted something in the trunk he did not ask permission he took his keys off the pegboard and opened the trunk and got what he needed. He also filled their tank and had their oil changed when he felt like it or the car needed to go for service, he took it. I would bet you dollars to donuts, that George, being that he was the one making the payments on Casey's car, (as per the emails from the aunt to the grandmother) had a spare set of keys on his pegboard and I can't fathom him asking permission for Casey to go into the trunk to get the blocks or whatever it was he was looking for.

I think that he saw exactly what was in that trunk that night and that this is why he has such a hard time lying to police and even to Larry King. I think he knew exactly what was in that trunk and it wasn't gas cans or blocks. It was Caylee. Otherwise why would he say this "the body that was in my daughter's car was NOT my granddaughter!!!!!" to the media when he was yelling at them. (see raw video)


Oh yes, there were 3 slipps of the tongue that I believe came from the truth. you just sited the one, the other was with todd black when he said, this isnt only about the loss of the life of a little girl.... {something to that effect. and the 3rd one was when Luka Lee's attorney refered to lee as the father then corrected himself to say niece.

nc1948
12-30-2008, 08:17 PM
It all gets curiouser and curiouser. My guess is there are many layers of deception in this family.

FWIW, I don't see CA trying to protect Casey. I see Cynthia trying to protect Cynthia.

jmo

I see Cindy trying to protect the image of her perfect family. Remember she raised the Mother of the Year. Cindy is all about appearances.

Neffy
12-30-2008, 08:18 PM
I sooo loved this convo.... my Mom would have busted my a&& two seconds into me tripping and backtracking and just plain out lying - but again....... I am sure Cindy was grasping at anything at this point, I'm sure she so wanted to believe Casey, she had to want to. IMO

See my take was Cindy was setting Casey. Up Cindy's knows. It's her demeanor about it that I find out of this world. Cindy is absolutely (I hate that word now) not going to confront her. I don't think ever in this lifetime.

Finding Caylee Cindy no longer has to listen to Casey lie.

Lyndawitha"Y
12-30-2008, 08:19 PM
I am new here ,I came from another message board .TOO many off topic posts there for me ,hope thats not the case here ! I do know alot about the case and want to join in .I hope no one is offended I tend to have much sympathy for Cindy , some don't like that ,but I won't find that here will I ?


Anyway , what do yall think about the PI:biggrin: who filmed the crime scene in November , pretty interesting huh , any ideas on how he knew to do that ?

[B]Welcome ParaTROLL..as for the PI filming the actual "Dump Site"?..It appears by media exposure, there were 2 filming there..one filming the filmer who was filming the dump site..Goodness, how convoluted can this get???

I think the question should be just who sent him (them) to film that area??? If the Anthony's did.... NOT Baez..then its fair game when they (he) get deposed by LE..No confidentiality when private citizens hire a PI..or PI's..

As for Cindy, I do pity her for the position she has put herself in..and just know she will not be able to grieve appropriately until this whole case gets resolved in Court!

LMS:crying:

Ionmhainn
12-30-2008, 08:22 PM
Yes .. we almost all agree they were talking in some codespeak of theirs.... to which is most interesting. Id love to see it explained away. See how that spaghetti bowl ends up.


Yes, I've been here from the beginning (mostly reading). I agree about "codespeak", but this particular exchange got past me the first time I heard it. Hearing it again gave me chills.

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 08:23 PM
I think LE already knows GA was lying about the 16th, seeing Caylee. in his LE interview he states: "He was ALMOST POSITIVE Casey's car was in the driveway'' he was almost positive? he never saw them on the NITE of the 15th. He said he got home a little after 11pm. He said he worked the 3 to 11pm shift on June 15th.

page 9

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/georgeanthony%20aug4.pdf

he only mentions he sees them at 12:50pm on the 16th when they were leaving.....if they were in the house all nite, he gave no indication as to what either one of them were doing all morning.

its my belief LE knows it was a bogus account.

secondly, Casey was back to the house on the 17th, with her car backed into the driveway, per neighbor Burner.

the 18th and 19th is, according to Burner, shovel day, she was back again to the house (and I can lay down odds that Burner drilled that date down with the help of his family)...with the car backed in again.

then, she was back AGAIN on the 20th, backing into the garage.

and then of course she was back again, IIRC, on the 23rd with Tony. to steal the gas cans. that has been confirmed by Tony.

and all the while Cindy thinks she is away in Jacksonville? of course things were being 'moved around'...Casey was in and out of the house after the 15th of June numerous times.

and item(s) found with Caylee's remains are IMO, what provoked LE to obtain search warrants immediately after her discovery.

best regards,
Pru

I thought the poster said that email was specific to the 16th, not the other days.

Daffodil
12-30-2008, 08:23 PM
He did make a gracious and timely exit.

Wasn't NeJame representing CA & GA early on in all this? It always seemed odd to me that the A's had a well known criminal defense attorney. (Another reason I think CA is protecting CA and not Casey).

CA has only been quiet in the media since Caylee has been found. I don't think their new attorney, Conway, would have had any sucess keeping CA out of the spotlight if Caylee had not been found.

You know, I think you are absolutely right about Cindy protecting Cindy. I think we all knew this from the get go. But somehow now, it just stands out on it's own.

I wish Casey would spill her guts. She has got to believe that her parents ruined her life. And if she is spiteful.........

I just can't imagine being anyone in this whole wacky family. Always living lies...always....

Lavenia
12-30-2008, 08:23 PM
I'm not saying that I think the Anthony household was a place of peace & serenity, but I don't think George was at all willing to get out. He was on a gravy train with biscuit wheels financially. His employment has been reported to be quite sporadic. His wife, if we are to believe the emails which were sent way before all of this broke, was the main support of the family. I believe George admitted to LE that he had been involved in some mighty costly financial follies.

I actually think Cindy might have been better off if she had told George that HE could take responsiblity for their daughter from the age of around 17, walked out the door, walked away from her fights with Casey, gone on to something a great deal less stressful, etc. From what we know so far, Cindy seems to have been the only one actually willing to confront Casey about anything. I am not recalling right at the moment that her dad pushed her about anything.

JMO


:laugh::laugh: That's one of the funniest ways of stating a fundamental truth about the elder Ants, as I see it.

True2Blues
12-30-2008, 08:23 PM
Gee, I like it when Wendy Murphy is on with JW (JVM show). She shuts her down when JW starts getting into her world of fantasy and broad statements. Now if all the guests and host could stop yelling at the same time, they'd be doing really well.

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 08:23 PM
See my take was Cindy was setting Casey. Up Cindy's knows. It's her demeanor about it that I find out of this world. Cindy is absolutely (I hate that word now) not going to confront her. I don't think ever in this lifetime.

Finding Caylee Cindy no longer has to listen to Casey lie.



I find myself stopping before saying absolutely now ! lol I didn't realize I used it so much before this Casey version of the word.

trich
12-30-2008, 08:23 PM
YES! That too. Why was Cindy ever left alone with Casey's purse? Especially since at the moment, the cops were IN the house! That just blows me away. Unfortunately for LE, no do-overs.

LE did not know what was going on at that time.
All they knew was a child was missing.
They had no warrant to take or search anything right then and there.

Calla
12-30-2008, 08:24 PM
I am new here ,I came from another message board .TOO many off topic posts there for me ,hope thats not the case here ! I do know alot about the case and want to join in .I hope no one is offended I tend to have much sympathy for Cindy , some don't like that ,but I won't find that here will I ?


Anyway , what do yall think about the PI:biggrin: who filmed the crime scene in November , pretty interesting huh , any ideas on how he knew to do that ?

I too have had some sympathy for Cindy....and have taken some hard knocks for it. lol So Welcome!

Regarding off topic...be sure to read TOS etc. I recently paid the price for responding to someone's not so off topic point. (at least I thot my response was on topic)

Dunno bout this PI filming. Curious to hear more and also Lee's atty speaking of possible charges.

O well..welcome again

Oregongal
12-30-2008, 08:26 PM
I'm not even going to get into the power struggle going on under that roof between the four of them. I will say that when my kids were teens and we were paying for their cars (yes, we paid half for their cars and sometimes shelled out for the insurance payments when they were strapped) my husband had a set of keys for their cars and guess what. When he wanted something in the trunk he did not ask permission he took his keys off the pegboard and opened the trunk and got what he needed. He also filled their tank and had their oil changed when he felt like it or the car needed to go for service, he took it. I would bet you dollars to donuts, that George, being that he was the one making the payments on Casey's car, (as per the emails from the aunt to the grandmother) had a spare set of keys on his pegboard and I can't fathom him asking permission for Casey to go into the trunk to get the blocks or whatever it was he was looking for.

I think that he saw exactly what was in that trunk that night and that this is why he has such a hard time lying to police and even to Larry King. I think he knew exactly what was in that trunk and it wasn't gas cans or blocks. It was Caylee. Otherwise why would he say this "the body that was in my daughter's car was NOT my granddaughter!!!!!" to the media when he was yelling at them. (see raw video)

You are right about the keys January....remember, he had the keys to drive the car from the impound lot.

Lavenia
12-30-2008, 08:26 PM
I am new here ,I came from another message board .TOO many off topic posts there for me ,hope thats not the case here ! I do know alot about the case and want to join in .I hope no one is offended I tend to have much sympathy for Cindy , some don't like that ,but I won't find that here will I ?


Anyway , what do yall think about the PI:biggrin: who filmed the crime scene in November , pretty interesting huh , any ideas on how he knew to do that ?

Welcome Paratroll. I hope you will find your stay here enlightening. I think you'll find all opinions here. I have some non-minority opinions and NO ONE has ever mad me feel anything other than respected here. (There was this one drunk/nutbag that PM'd me once, but it had nothing to do with my opinion. It was just "my time", LOL)

neid_77
12-30-2008, 08:26 PM
Yes, I've been here from the beginning (mostly reading). I agree about "codespeak", but this particular exchange got past me the first time I heard it. Hearing it again gave me chills.

i hope detectives sit down with Lee and ask him excactly what hey was asking casey about....and why he thought he needed to do his own investigation over LE? has he went through the police academy..did he actually share all the information she gave him? why did he refuse to take a lie detector test...get supeonaed twice to give DNA and fingerprints!....TRUTHFULLY what is he trying to hide. i just listened to a tape where he said my first concern is caylee second casey...well once he figured caylee was dead by the forensics the first time...his focus changed to defending his murdering sister!

Cury-us Coyote
12-30-2008, 08:27 PM
I'm bringing this over from the other thread... It is my reply to Cury-Us Coyotee's post #581 on this thread: http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12594353#post12594353

It refers to an email recovered from Casey's computer which seems to be from Cindy to Casey re Caylee....



Very interesting, Cury-Us.

I believe the email was at least composed, if not also sent, on 16 june. IMO, the email gives 3 clues to the date... Below, I will refer to the sender as Cindy.

Clue #1. Cindy says that "dad said he went to work at 9.00am, returned home at 6.30pm and didn't come home in between."

She also says "I don't know who or what to believe anymore".

IMO, she is referring to the last day (16 June) when Casey and Caylee were supposedly in the A house after the Cindy/Casey argument (pm of 15 June). Cindy didn't see them in the am of 16/6 when she left for work, but supposedly, according to his statements, GA saw them both when they left around 1 pm on that day.

I think this is where GA made a mistake in one of the TV interviews when he was telling the interviewer what he watching when he last saw Caylee, when Casey and she left on the pm of 16 June. He started to say something, then Cindy corrected him.

That, IMO, shows that by the time of that TV interview, CA and GA had gotten together and got their story "straight" as to when Casey and Caylee were seen together last.

Clue #2. Cindy says in the email "It's been over a month now. Am I ever going to see her again?" She is referring to Caylee, as in the sentence that precedes she says that she still hadn't gotten to see pics of Caylee or gotten to speak to her, even though "you told me everyday that you were going to call me"... "but you choose to call when you know I won't be home. What the hell is going on?"

"Over a month"... that would make it 16 July since Cindy last saw Casey and Caylee, wouldn't it?

Clue #3. The reference to the Anheiser Busch theme Parks takeover... Cindy says "I saw on the news that Anheiser Busch is being taken over by some foreign company"... that didn't want the theme parks. On July 16 Associated Press reported the following:

InBev May Have Plans to Sell Off Busch Theme Parks
http://www.theledger.com/article/200...NEWS/807160390 (http://www.theledger.com/article/20080716/NEWS/807160390)

Out of all the above, the most interesting, IMO, is Cindy saying she doesn't know who to believe anymore alongside saying that "dad" said he went to work at 9, returned home at 6.30 and didn't come home in between...

JMHO

Excellent Analysis enigma-

The email was recovered from unallocated clusters (those that were not overwritten). According to handwritten page 919, Detective CB seized the Compaq laptop and submitted to crime lab on 7/16 at 8PM. The HP desktop was also submitted. The computers were image copied.

FWIW, I was leaning towards an earlier date. Why compose this email after CA's arrest?
jmo

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 08:30 PM
He did make a gracious and timely exit.

Wasn't NeJame representing CA & GA early on in all this? It always seemed odd to me that the A's had a well known criminal defense attorney. (Another reason I think CA is protecting CA and not Casey).

CA has only been quiet in the media since Caylee has been found. I don't think their new attorney, Conway, would have had any sucess keeping CA out of the spotlight if Caylee had not been found.


yes NeJame was attempting to advise CA & GA to no avail ! And let me prefice this next one by saying I would never want to be picked apart by this massive following of this case, nor would put myself there either, but this Conway is by no way polished imo he makes Baez seem like a pro. imo

AbbyNormal
12-30-2008, 08:30 PM
I see Cindy trying to protect the image of her perfect family. Remember she raised the Mother of the Year. Cindy is all about appearances.How things look. Not how things are. (I've run into too many of these people IRL):chicken:

callmetree
12-30-2008, 08:30 PM
Please Light a Candle for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose::rose::rose:

thank you blu as always! you are always so sweet!

Neffy
12-30-2008, 08:30 PM
That exchange re Zanny's apartment... Looked at with Cindy's statement that the nanny was a longtime friend... and her email to Lee where she gets mad with him because he keeps asking who else has seen this nanny except Casey, are there any pictures of her... and Cindy says I have pictures of her apartment...

Remember that discussion in the last couple of days?... Rick was SO incensed at Cindy for not wanting to see what was staring her in the face...

JMHO

Yes. He had to have seen this vid or at least I hope he did. This should confirm all of his emails if he was feeling guilty of taking Cindy to task.

Zanny's apartment is really RICARDO'S!! They look alike down to the last symbol on their MATCHING DRUM SET!

I think at that exact moment I would have either gone thru that window or dropped to the floor in sheer pain knowing my child did something horrible to my grandchild.

What a case study.

trich
12-30-2008, 08:31 PM
yup:thumbsup:

Also this new spokesman that said teh defense does not want the Casey PI to reveal where the body might have been ...or something to that affect. that is why Baez wants a master to be at interview with the LE and this guy.

bchand
12-30-2008, 08:31 PM
WESH reports that George and Cindy Anthony won't help prosecution without immunity

Dec 30, 2008 6:28:05 PM

But at 6 p.m. WESH-Channel 2 then turned to the Caylee Anthony saga. Bob Kealing reported that the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony says they will cooperate in daughter Casey's prosecution -- "only if their words aren't used against them." Attorney Brad Conway told Kealing, "We've discussed immunity, and I won't put them in a room until I get it."

Private detective Dominic Casey, who protected Casey Anthony and worked for her attorney Jose Baez, is willing to talk to investigators, Kealing reported. Casey Anthony is charged with her child's murder.

Conway told Kealing that Casey Anthony's team has not completed a second autopsy on the toddler and so no announcement on a funeral can be made.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/

Daffodil
12-30-2008, 08:34 PM
I'm not even going to get into the power struggle going on under that roof between the four of them. I will say that when my kids were teens and we were paying for their cars (yes, we paid half for their cars and sometimes shelled out for the insurance payments when they were strapped) my husband had a set of keys for their cars and guess what. When he wanted something in the trunk he did not ask permission he took his keys off the pegboard and opened the trunk and got what he needed. He also filled their tank and had their oil changed when he felt like it or the car needed to go for service, he took it. I would bet you dollars to donuts, that George, being that he was the one making the payments on Casey's car, (as per the emails from the aunt to the grandmother) had a spare set of keys on his pegboard and I can't fathom him asking permission for Casey to go into the trunk to get the blocks or whatever it was he was looking for.

I think that he saw exactly what was in that trunk that night and that this is why he has such a hard time lying to police and even to Larry King. I think he knew exactly what was in that trunk and it wasn't gas cans or blocks. It was Caylee. Otherwise why would he say this "the body that was in my daughter's car was NOT my granddaughter!!!!!" to the media when he was yelling at them. (see raw video)

Yes, buy how did he know to look for something in the trunk?

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 08:35 PM
Also this new spokesman that said teh defense does not want the Casey PI to reveal where the body might have been ...or something to that affect. that is why Baez wants a master to be at interview with the LE and this guy.

isnt that like saying, they know there was a body but they want to keep that info a secret.

isnt that something that could cause baez to get disbarred?

CANDYKISSES
12-30-2008, 08:35 PM
I'm not even going to get into the power struggle going on under that roof between the four of them. I will say that when my kids were teens and we were paying for their cars (yes, we paid half for their cars and sometimes shelled out for the insurance payments when they were strapped) my husband had a set of keys for their cars and guess what. When he wanted something in the trunk he did not ask permission he took his keys off the pegboard and opened the trunk and got what he needed. He also filled their tank and had their oil changed when he felt like it or the car needed to go for service, he took it. I would bet you dollars to donuts, that George, being that he was the one making the payments on Casey's car, (as per the emails from the aunt to the grandmother) had a spare set of keys on his pegboard and I can't fathom him asking permission for Casey to go into the trunk to get the blocks or whatever it was he was looking for.

I think that he saw exactly what was in that trunk that night and that this is why he has such a hard time lying to police and even to Larry King. I think he knew exactly what was in that trunk and it wasn't gas cans or blocks. It was Caylee. Otherwise why would he say this "the body that was in my daughter's car was NOT my granddaughter!!!!!" to the media when he was yelling at them. (see raw video)

You do have a point there January with reference to George stating "the body", but I just can't believe he would have seen her remains and kept on going.

Something was certainly eating away at him on LKL and all the coincidences are just too many to believe anymore. I want one of them to come out and tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth as they know it. :unsure:

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 08:35 PM
That's so profound what you said up there. In my opinion and I sure hope I don't get beat up for saying this, Caylee never stood a chance in that household. She was doomed from the get-go. I think that had she lived, she would have grown up to be a carbon copy of her mother and her grandmother. She is so much better off not in that household near any of those odious creatures.



The fact that she made it through the pregnancy is a miracle and by her I mean Caylee. Casey was pretending she wasn't pregnant or in denial whichever there is no one coming forward saying she was taking the best prenatal care in the 7 mos prior to her fessing up to the pregnancy. IMO She had a beautiful healthy baby inspite of everything - and that was not the only obstacle Caylee would be hit with by her care-giver. iMO

summer4meplz
12-30-2008, 08:35 PM
If you got it...can you or someone else plese PM it to me? Thank you:)


would someone pm the pic to me please...tia

bchand
12-30-2008, 08:35 PM
Yes, buy how did he know to look for something in the trunk?

He was calling her bluff about stealing the gas/gas cans IMO.

bluwaters
12-30-2008, 08:36 PM
I have always wondered WHY he thought he had to think of something in order to GET INTO the trunk in the first place?

What did he think was in there?

The whole story about wanting the block seemed contrived to me, anyone else?

It makes no sense whatsoever!

I can think of my dad, when I was young and driving a car that he owned, and what he would have done.
My father would simply have gone to the car and opened the trunk with his own key. He would not have given a second thought to alerting me or getting my permission! Especially if he thought that I had "borrowed" property that he had reported stolen. If his stolen property was in the trunk of that car, then we would have had us a "come to Jesus meeting" on the spot. You can bet that I would never in a million years have spoken to my father the way Casey spoke to George!

So, why did George feel the need to make up a story in order to gain access to the trunk?

Why do the A's tip toe around Casey constantly?

It does not make any kind of logical sense.

True2Blues
12-30-2008, 08:37 PM
WESH reports that George and Cindy Anthony won't help prosecution without immunity

Dec 30, 2008 6:28:05 PM

But at 6 p.m. WESH-Channel 2 then turned to the Caylee Anthony saga. Bob Kealing reported that the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony says they will cooperate in daughter Casey's prosecution -- "only if their words aren't used against them." Attorney Brad Conway told Kealing, "We've discussed immunity, and I won't put them in a room until I get it."

Private detective Dominic Casey, who protected Casey Anthony and worked for her attorney Jose Baez, is willing to talk to investigators, Kealing reported. Casey Anthony is charged with her child's murder.

Conway told Kealing that Casey Anthony's team has not completed a second autopsy on the toddler and so no announcement on a funeral can be made.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/


They have no credibility at all. Why waste immunity on them? And now they think they're calling the shots. They've changed their stories so many times , and the Defense will bring up the stories that support Casey if they testify for the Prosecution, I can't see anyone believing one word they say.

CANDYKISSES
12-30-2008, 08:38 PM
WESH reports that George and Cindy Anthony won't help prosecution without immunity

Dec 30, 2008 6:28:05 PM

But at 6 p.m. WESH-Channel 2 then turned to the Caylee Anthony saga. Bob Kealing reported that the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony says they will cooperate in daughter Casey's prosecution -- "only if their words aren't used against them." Attorney Brad Conway told Kealing, "We've discussed immunity, and I won't put them in a room until I get it."

Private detective Dominic Casey, who protected Casey Anthony and worked for her attorney Jose Baez, is willing to talk to investigators, Kealing reported. Casey Anthony is charged with her child's murder.

Conway told Kealing that Casey Anthony's team has not completed a second autopsy on the toddler and so no announcement on a funeral can be made.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/

Hmmm bchand. I guess Cindy didn't learn about threatening Yuri from that little exchange. Remember, this is what she told him about going to see her mother and father that night IIRC.

I guess it will depend on which is more advantageous to LE and the prosecutor tho.

Still trying to control everything, not much has changed IMO.

bchand
12-30-2008, 08:39 PM
They have no credibility at all. Why waste immunity on them? And now they think they're calling the shots. They've changed their stories so many times , and the Defense will bring up the stories that support Casey if they testify for the Prosecution, I can't see anyone believing one word they say.

I would not believe one word that came out of the mouth of any of the Anthony family. I agree.

You know they "always" think they're running this show.

Ionmhainn
12-30-2008, 08:39 PM
i hope detectives sit down with Lee and ask him excactly what hey was asking casey about....and why he thought he needed to do his own investigation over LE? has he went through the police academy..did he actually share all the information she gave him? why did he refuse to take a lie detector test...get supeonaed twice to give DNA and fingerprints!....TRUTHFULLY what is he trying to hide. i just listened to a tape where he said my first concern is caylee second casey...well once he figured caylee was dead by the forensics the first time...his focus changed to defending his murdering sister!

Back at the start of all this, I seem to recall that the consensus on the board was that LA didn't believe Casey and was actually working with LE against her! I thought so too...now I just don't know....waiting and watching. :(

boo
12-30-2008, 08:39 PM
Okay, so who is Roy again? :confused:

MalloryCat
12-30-2008, 08:39 PM
They have no credibility at all. Why waste immunity on them? And now they think they're calling the shots. They've changed their stories so many times , and the Defense will bring up the stories that support Casey if they testify for the Prosecution, I can't see anyone believing one word they say.

Pick out the bad things, of course. They are going to testify against their daughter and thats great!

bchand
12-30-2008, 08:40 PM
Hmmm bchand. I guess Cindy didn't learn about threatening Yuri from that little exchange. Remember, this is what she told him about going to see her mother and father that night IIRC.

I guess it will depend on which is more advantageous to LE and the prosecutor tho.

Still trying to control everything, not much has changed IMO.

lol - gmta see my post right after yours.

Calla
12-30-2008, 08:40 PM
If Tony admitted to being with Casey or being asked to pick Casey up just down from her house on the 20th (or whatever date that was ) ...when the gas cans got taken..what was the reason he thought they were getting the gas cans?

I recall reading in one of the "interviews" that he picked Casey up at almost the same place Caylee's body was found. I think he said, she told him to go like he was going to her house to get there. And did they take the gas to the car she was going to drive?

PROPROS
12-30-2008, 08:41 PM
Wendy Murphy really letting Weintraub have it.....I love Wendy Murphy!In fact...the whole panel going after her tonight. Good show.mo

smileyjoe
12-30-2008, 08:41 PM
It makes no sense whatsoever!

I can think of my dad, when I was young and driving a car that he owned, and what he would have done.
My father would simply have gone to the car and opened the trunk with his own key. He would not have given a second thought to alerting me or getting my permission! Especially if he thought that I had "borrowed" property that he had reported stolen. If his stolen property was in the trunk of that car, then we would have had us a "come to Jesus meeting" on the spot. You can bet that I would never in a million years have spoken to my father the way Casey spoke to George!

So, why did George feel the need to make up a story in order to gain access to the trunk?

Why do the A's tip toe around Casey constantly?

It does not make any kind of logical sense.


Even in jail house convos. Tippy toe around. DON'T anger the anointed one. Were they scared of her? Have they always been scared of her?

Thats the only answer I can come up with.

boo
12-30-2008, 08:43 PM
Wendy Murphy really letting Weintraub have it.....I love Wendy Murphy!In fact...the whole panel going after her tonight. Good show.mo

Figures, I'm still at work.

Hey Pros, I'm one small city to the East of you "G"

llylabrat
12-30-2008, 08:43 PM
Wonder how many people will put in for vacation time when the trial date is set. Then just before the trial starts, there is a run on popcorn, chips and bonbons. Maybe some beer and wine.

Which part would you want to see? The trial will take months IMO. I would want to see some of the prosecution case, I could pass on opening statements. Forget about watching the defense. You think Yale Galanter and co. were bad? Wait till Baez & the nightmare team get started.

Regina.Lampert
12-30-2008, 08:45 PM
WESH reports that George and Cindy Anthony won't help prosecution without immunity

Dec 30, 2008 6:28:05 PM

But at 6 p.m. WESH-Channel 2 then turned to the Caylee Anthony saga. Bob Kealing reported that the attorney for George and Cindy Anthony says they will cooperate in daughter Casey's prosecution -- "only if their words aren't used against them." Attorney Brad Conway told Kealing, "We've discussed immunity, and I won't put them in a room until I get it."

Private detective Dominic Casey, who protected Casey Anthony and worked for her attorney Jose Baez, is willing to talk to investigators, Kealing reported. Casey Anthony is charged with her child's murder.

Conway told Kealing that Casey Anthony's team has not completed a second autopsy on the toddler and so no announcement on a funeral can be made.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/


This is infuriating. I would like this prosecution to convict the babykiller without any assistance from george, cynthia and lee, then once she's found guilty throw the book at all of them. They are despicable people to not cooperate into the investigation of the murder of Caylee. imo.

summer4meplz
12-30-2008, 08:45 PM
thanks to everyone that sent me the link to the pic.....i don't know if it's lee or not.....but it wasn't nearly as bad as i thought it would be ....whew...after that ONE pic....and I still think that one WAS casey....and I think there's about 1999 more just like it....

True2Blues
12-30-2008, 08:46 PM
Pick out the bad things, of course. They are going to testify against their daughter and thats great!

Only if the jury finds them credible and I believe there's a real credibility issue with all of the Anthonys. As long as the Prosecution has plenty of evidence and doesn't actually need to rely on them to provide any facts that aren't otherwise supported, it should be alright.

boo
12-30-2008, 08:46 PM
This is infuriating. I would like this prosecution to convict the babykiller without any assistance from george, cynthia and lee, then once she's found guilty throw the book at all of them. They are despicable people to not cooperate into the investigation of the murder of Caylee. imo.


A big amen to that.

bluwaters
12-30-2008, 08:46 PM
I think those tips were on "live sitings" weren't they?
Right. Baez was PO'd because he didn't want all of the tips, just the relevant ones, which I guess means "live sitings." As if LE could go through them all and identify those to his satisfaction. I can hear it now - "Well, I requested the tips, but all I got was an edited version, with most of the tips were excluded.

Your question is a good one.
Were the MR's calls in August on the list of tips that were prepared for Baez I wonder?

Pruddennce
12-30-2008, 08:46 PM
I think they had the cops snowed for a lil short time. What LE would let civilians go get something they think may contain evidence.. that they may need? ... makes no sense. Wonder if Casey just told Lee to grab it before they could!

IMO, yes. She told Lee to go 'fix' the laptop.

he was caught in a lie with LE when they asked about it being turned on.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/01%20Lee%20Anthony%20July%2029,%202008.pdf

page 54, it was off (although LE had already been told he saw the blue screen initially when he got there)....then says well it was off.

page 57, they state to him so it was sitting there running when you saw it and he says 'exactly, I couldnt get in'.

Lee missed a beat. between all of his carefully worded statements.

and gets superior "you know of course we cant attest to when it crashed'.

LE also threw out at him a question as to WHY Casey would be using someone else's service to upload pictures. Im still curious about that.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

enigma
12-30-2008, 08:46 PM
I thought the poster said that email was specific to the 16th, not the other days.

I did say that.

If you'd like to see the email I quoted from for yourself, go to

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

under Documents Released Nov 26, 2008, Part 11, bottom of Page 2 of 50, with (page) 2802 handwritten in.

bchand
12-30-2008, 08:47 PM
This is infuriating. I would like this prosecution to convict the babykiller without any assistance from george, cynthia and lee, then once she's found guilty throw the book at all of them. They are despicable people to not cooperate into the investigation of the murder of Caylee. imo.

Agreed. My husband thinks they're despicable for wanting the baby's killer to attend the funeral too.

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 08:47 PM
Pick out the bad things, of course. They are going to testify against their daughter and thats great!

did they say they would? I havent read that they would. I have read read that want immunity or they wont talk, they are being threatened to testify, so it sounds like to me they havent said they would .where did they say they would testify?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/12/local-televisio.html
WESH reports that George and Cindy Anthony won't help prosecution without immunity

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/12/caylee-antho-10.html
George and Cindy Anthony will be asked to take a major role in the case against their daughter -- or else

PROPROS
12-30-2008, 08:47 PM
I would not believe one word that came out of the mouth of any of the Anthony family. I agree.

You know they "always" think they're running this show.Biting off her nose to spite her face...She just doesn't learn. You would think with Lee possibly being close to a charge of obstruction,she would lay low...But, no!! If I was her, I would not be threatening anyone! I think LE and the Pros has handed out just about as much leeway and sympathy as their going to.mo

True2Blues
12-30-2008, 08:47 PM
This is infuriating. I would like this prosecution to convict the babykiller without any assistance from george, cynthia and lee, then once she's found guilty throw the book at all of them. They are despicable people to not cooperate into the investigation of the murder of Caylee. imo.

I'm with you completely.

sunrose
12-30-2008, 08:48 PM
Can someone plz pm the pic.thank u

Pruddennce
12-30-2008, 08:48 PM
thanks to everyone that sent me the link to the pic.....i don't know if it's lee or not.....but it wasn't nearly as bad as i thought it would be ....whew...after that ONE pic....and I still think that one WAS casey....and I think there's about 1999 more just like it....


I missed a pic? is it from a credible source?

best regards,
Pru

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 08:49 PM
It makes no sense whatsoever!

I can think of my dad, when I was young and driving a car that he owned, and what he would have done.
My father would simply have gone to the car and opened the trunk with his own key. He would not have given a second thought to alerting me or getting my permission! Especially if he thought that I had "borrowed" property that he had reported stolen. If his stolen property was in the trunk of that car, then we would have had us a "come to Jesus meeting" on the spot. You can bet that I would never in a million years have spoken to my father the way Casey spoke to George!

So, why did George feel the need to make up a story in order to gain access to the trunk?

Why do the A's tip toe around Casey constantly?

It does not make any kind of logical sense.


I always tell my daughter I can tell when you or anyone else is lying because they offer "too much" information... the way he went on and on about the why the blocks were there and why he needed to get them right then and blah blah blah imo (thou dost protest too much)

shellzbi
12-30-2008, 08:49 PM
This is infuriating. I would like this prosecution to convict the babykiller without any assistance from george, cynthia and lee, then once she's found guilty throw the book at all of them. They are despicable people to not cooperate into the investigation of the murder of Caylee. imo.


I totally agree with you. Convict Casey and throw the book at the rest of the Anthony Family.

My blood pressure keeps going up. They are a bunch of liars IMO. Be Well.

bluwaters
12-30-2008, 08:49 PM
I am new here ,I came from another message board .TOO many off topic posts there for me ,hope thats not the case here ! I do know alot about the case and want to join in .I hope no one is offended I tend to have much sympathy for Cindy , some don't like that ,but I won't find that here will I ?


Anyway , what do yall think about the PI:biggrin: who filmed the crime scene in November , pretty interesting huh , any ideas on how he knew to do that ?
Welcome! I doubt that you will find much Cindy-sympathy here, but as long as you are respectful to others, they will be respectful to you.
Your nic, hmmmmmmmm:unsure:

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 08:49 PM
I did say that.

If you'd like to see the email I quoted from for yourself, go to

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

under Documents Released Nov 26, 2008, Part 11, bottom of Page 2 of 50, with (page) 2802 handwritten in.

Im not arguing with you. I was stating what I thought the consequences were from that date. another poster disagreed

PROPROS
12-30-2008, 08:50 PM
Figures, I'm still at work.

Hey Pros, I'm one small city to the East of you "G"I know which one neighbor...I spend alot of time there.:biggrin:

bchand
12-30-2008, 08:50 PM
IMO, yes. She told Lee to go 'fix' the laptop.

he was caught in a lie with LE when they asked about it being turned on.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/01%20Lee%20Anthony%20July%2029,%202008.pdf

page 54, it was off (although LE had already been told he saw the blue screen initially when he got there)....then says well it was off.

page 57, they state to him so it was sitting there running when you saw it and he says 'exactly, I couldnt get in'.

Lee missed a beat. between all of his carefully worded statements.

and gets superior "you know of course we cant attest to when it crashed'.

LE also threw out at him a question as to WHY Casey would be using someone else's service to upload pictures. Im still curious about that.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

I thought they were just making clear to him that even though Lee was saying the laptop was "crashed" Casey could still access her accts via any computer.

(I recall Tony saying she was working ON her computer when Amy showed up. Didn't seem to be anything wrong with it then and Casey had no reason to attempt to do anything at that point. She didn't know her mother was outside yet.)

CaféAuLait's
12-30-2008, 08:50 PM
do we know if Le has the book that Caylee was reading in the video. Is it missing. ? If in fact that was a book at the site don't we assume the LE went to The Anthonys' to recover the book? Why are we all talking about this book. ?? Was it missing? to be honest I cannot make it out to be a book. looks like a patch of moss. lol gogo

Hi '


Look at the pictures here, looks like a book to me.

http://origin-www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-caylee-anthony-book-photo-gallery,0,5999866.photogallery?index=orl-caylee-anthony-book-photos-02

MalloryCat
12-30-2008, 08:50 PM
Picture of Lee ? Can I see ?

Its NOT Lee.

Regina.Lampert
12-30-2008, 08:51 PM
A big amen to that.



A big BOO YA to your Amen! :tongueside:

Daffodil
12-30-2008, 08:52 PM
You do have a point there January with reference to George stating "the body", but I just can't believe he would have seen her remains and kept on going.

Something was certainly eating away at him on LKL and all the coincidences are just too many to believe anymore. I want one of them to come out and tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth as they know it. :unsure:

I think someone got a deal or made a deal in exchange for the DP to get off the table. Don't really know who, what or why? The timing on things since then are very questionable. How ironice that the body is found while the Anthony's are actually in the air and no cameras around. There is more to this picture and I can't wait to find it all out.

MiamiNice1
12-30-2008, 08:53 PM
This is infuriating. I would like this prosecution to convict the babykiller without any assistance from george, cynthia and lee, then once she's found guilty throw the book at all of them. They are despicable people to not cooperate into the investigation of the murder of Caylee. imo.

Hear, hear! My thoughts exactly! They do not need the rest of that family to convict Casey. IMO, that family needs to learn some humility instead of this constant trying to control.

imo

StillEG
12-30-2008, 08:54 PM
Me too please !! TIA..

me too please!

girlspell
12-30-2008, 08:54 PM
I must say the defense is starting to get some inroads. The LE prosecution must hand over evidenc
e to them. The big fuss over private investigator filming the area. That weird meter man. All of this is helping the defense. These strange twists and turns are helping Casey. I know they're going to claim that Zanny is framing Casey.

Really, what does the prosecutution have as evidence? Just the air samples in the trunk. I think that is their only hope. They must not have found much. Not of it was never leaked to the media. Usually when they get something, you hear about it ahead of time.

enigma
12-30-2008, 08:54 PM
IMO, yes. She told Lee to go 'fix' the laptop.

he was caught in a lie with LE when they asked about it being turned on.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/01%20Lee%20Anthony%20July%2029,%202008.pdf

page 54, it was off (although LE had already been told he saw the blue screen initially when he got there)....then says well it was off.

page 57, they state to him so it was sitting there running when you saw it and he says 'exactly, I couldnt get in'.

Lee missed a beat. between all of his carefully worded statements.

and gets superior "you know of course we cant attest to when it crashed'.

LE also threw out at him a question as to WHY Casey would be using someone else's service to upload pictures. Im still curious about that.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Good catch, Pru! A lot of interesting material in those released documents... I find that with all the developments and the discussion, I see things that I've missed before and other things which take on new or more profound meanings all the time...

JMHO

Cury-us Coyote
12-30-2008, 08:55 PM
I would not believe one word that came out of the mouth of any of the Anthony family. I agree.

You know they "always" think they're running this show.

But will the jury members who are less familiar with the A's than those who have followed closely and researched? TIA

Calla
12-30-2008, 08:55 PM
Me too please !! TIA..

Aww wth..me too

bchand
12-30-2008, 08:56 PM
I missed a pic? is it from a credible source?

best regards,
Pru

It's not the source in question, it's whether it's Lee. I do not think it is.

Regina.Lampert
12-30-2008, 08:56 PM
Agreed. My husband thinks they're despicable for wanting the baby's killer to attend the funeral too.

Hey B, you know the other day I was actually giving them the benefit of the doubt after Conway read their statement. No more, they are still supporting this babykiller over poor Caylee and I find that absolutely disgusting. They should be ashamed to have the person who murdered Caylee, at her funeral. What the heck is wrong with these people? :cursing:

shellzbi
12-30-2008, 08:56 PM
did they say they would? I havent read that they would. I have read read that want immunity or they wont talk, they are being threatened to testify, so it sounds like to me they havent said they would .where did they say they would testify?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/12/local-televisio.html
WESH reports that George and Cindy Anthony won't help prosecution without immunity

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/12/caylee-antho-10.html
George and Cindy Anthony will be asked to take a major role in the case against their daughter -- or else


I hope the state has enough evidence to convict Casey without giving the grandparents immunity.

I hope the state goes after them all.

Shame on them for hindering this case. IMO.

dvsone
12-30-2008, 08:57 PM
Jayne Weintraub comes up with some interesting statements "This is not a time for investigators to ask questions. The investigation is over they've charged her."

I do believe that the investigation opened back up when Caylee's remains were found, there JW. :rolleyes:


Can I just say... hey Jayne... STHU... thanks.

frances1
12-30-2008, 08:57 PM
I caught that right away but at the time I didn't know anything about Kiokomarie or the wooded area. When I first heard that tape and watched their body language, I was like, okay she is trying to either tell him where the body is or to tell him to move the body to this location. And now that I know that Kiokomarie had told the LE to look in those woods and that this was their frequent hang out (and also it had to be Lee's too) to drink, smoke or whatever, connect the dots. I say she was either telling him where the body was OR telling him to go get the body and put it there.

It's 'Kiomarie'.

bchand
12-30-2008, 08:58 PM
But will the jury members who are less familiar with the A's than those who have followed closely and researched? TIA

Hopefully the prosecutor will be able to make it clear with their conflicting statements?

101Spots
12-30-2008, 08:59 PM
Welcome! I doubt that you will find much Cindy-sympathy here, but as long as you are respectful to others, they will be respectful to you.
Your nic, hmmmmmmmm:unsure:

Re-run. But nice try. Welcome back. Again.

:seeya:

Jeepers
12-30-2008, 08:59 PM
This is infuriating. I would like this prosecution to convict the babykiller without any assistance from george, cynthia and lee, then once she's found guilty throw the book at all of them. They are despicable people to not cooperate into the investigation of the murder of Caylee. imo.

I just posted about the Anthony's and their lack of honesty. Now they are scared! They might get in trouble wah wah!

I think Caylee might have been scared too! Where was her immunity?

Who fought for her. George, Cindy, Lee ??? anybody???
Who is fighting for her now? George, Cindy Lee??? anybody???
Now after spouting all their puke to LE, FBI, Media, Public- they want to run for cover.. unacceptable in my opinion.

They need to lay in the bed they all made!:flamemad:

bchand
12-30-2008, 08:59 PM
Its probably a rumor, to make people say "What the heck is wrong with these people".. followed by cursing.

You mean you think THEIR lawyer is starting these rumors? He said it.

boo
12-30-2008, 09:00 PM
I must say the defense is starting to get some inroads. The LE prosecution must hand over evidenc
e to them. The big fuss over private investigator filming the area. That weird meter man. All of this is helping the defense. These strange twists and turns are helping Casey. I know they're going to claim that Zanny is framing Casey.

Really, what does the prosecutution have as evidence? Just the air samples in the trunk. I think that is their only hope. They must not have found much. Not of it was never leaked to the media. Usually when they get something, you hear about it ahead of time.


"What do they have as evidence?"

Oh, I dunno, maybe the hair from Caylee's deceased body, the stain in the trunk, the myriad of lies told from Casey and all the Anthonys. What else? Hmmmm, oh yeah, the poor baby's body found less than a half mile from her home?!!

neid_77
12-30-2008, 09:00 PM
Wendy Murphy really letting Weintraub have it.....I love Wendy Murphy!In fact...the whole panel going after her tonight. Good show.mo

i am almost tired of jane's show the defense attorney lady get's me so mad...she is disgracing caylee by what comes from her mouth....how do bones spread across and acre or more in 1 month???? i know she is a defense lawyer but some of the stuff that lady says is stupid i am glad Wendy is there to refute the BS that comes out of her mouth sometimes....do you think they make to much of the meter readers story? Is he really responisble for caylee's death...when casey trunk held all the clue's before her remains where found!...it just does not add up to mehammer

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 09:00 PM
Honestly it's nothing. It turned out to be a dud. We are pretty much all in agreement that this is not Lee and it's anybody's guess if it is even Casey. I would not even go there.
Welcome in by the way.

yes that was casey in that pic, here is another one of casey in the same red top.

http://i40.tinypic.com/nxtgeq.jpg

kitty1182
12-30-2008, 09:02 PM
Its probably a rumor, to make people say "What the heck is wrong with these people".. followed by cursing.

I don't think Casey will attend anyway.


I don't think she should attend..

enigma
12-30-2008, 09:02 PM
Im not arguing with you. I was stating what I thought the consequences were from that date. another poster disagreed

No, no!... I know you're not arguing with me, shelbar :) I wasn't either. I was just reinforcing what you said. And while I was at it, I thought I'd post a link and some instructions because when the direct link to that page was posted by Cury-us it didn't work (for several posters), so I went back to the kernel and worked my way to the page in question... and just thought I'd save you guys who are interested in seeing it some time and work... That's all...

PuffDragon
12-30-2008, 09:02 PM
I have always wondered WHY he thought he had to think of something in order to GET INTO the trunk in the first place?

What did he think was in there?

The whole story about wanting the block seemed contrived to me, anyone else?

It was contrived. George said it was an excuse, he said he wanted to see if the gas cans were in the trunk. That's what he said he wanted to see in the trunk. What he really wanted to see in the trunk is open to conjecture.

Anyway, I'm not convinced the whole story wasn't made up out of an episode that happened some other time added to some new details to come up with a tale spun to convince everybody that there was no body or smell in the car on the 24th.

If I had been George and I wanted to see what my son had in the trunk I wouldn't have been playing any games with wheel stabilizers. I would have plunked myself at the back of the car and demanded that the trunk get opened right now and don't give me any excuses, I don't care how late you are for work, I want to see into that trunk!! But then, that's just me, and George is George and saw nothing wrong with his story.

Pruddennce
12-30-2008, 09:02 PM
I did say that.

If you'd like to see the email I quoted from for yourself, go to

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

under Documents Released Nov 26, 2008, Part 11, bottom of Page 2 of 50, with (page) 2802 handwritten in.

thank you....yes yes....

I was referencing that statement to mean that its impossible to pinpoint what day Cindy was referring to if it was in fact about something going on in the home while she was at work and GA was giving Cindy times he wasnt there.....Casey was going in the home while they were not there. it appears of course this email WAS written close to or on the 16th of July. Simply because she stated a month had gone by.

remember tho, she initially placed 'the date' of last seeing Caylee as the 8th. that would be over a month.

GA knew Casey was coming and going <------thats MO and this family keeps secrets from one another....they play around with each other to exist in the same space.

they all lie to each other.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

bchand
12-30-2008, 09:03 PM
I didn't see the lawyer say it. Did he issue a press release, because honestly, the only place I heard it was from a reporter.

Did you just hear it reported on Nancy Grace?

Regina.Lampert
12-30-2008, 09:03 PM
I must say the defense is starting to get some inroads. The LE prosecution must hand over evidenc
e to them. The big fuss over private investigator filming the area. That weird meter man. All of this is helping the defense. These strange twists and turns are helping Casey. I know they're going to claim that Zanny is framing Casey.

Really, what does the prosecutution have as evidence? Just the air samples in the trunk. I think that is their only hope. They must not have found much. Not of it was never leaked to the media. Usually when they get something, you hear about it ahead of time.

The prosecution has nothing, release the babykiller immediately.


:punch:

Calla
12-30-2008, 09:04 PM
I tell ya

If my daughter killed my grandbaby and was as big a liar as Casey A has appeared to be...I would want her handcuffed, shackled and at the funeral to witness the pain and heartache she caused.

If there was one ounce of humanity inside that callous shell, I would want to be there to witness it for myself. I would have to know if she felt an iota of anything before I could put it all to rest.

Thats just me.

PROPROS
12-30-2008, 09:06 PM
i am almost tired of jane's show the defense attorney lady get's me so mad...she is disgracing caylee by what comes from her mouth....how do bones spread across and acre or more in 1 month???? i know she is a defense lawyer but some of the stuff that lady says is stupid i am glad Wendy is there to refute the BS that comes out of her mouth sometimes....do you think they make to much of the meter readers story? Is he really responisble for caylee's death...when casey trunk held all the clue's before her remains where found!...it just does not add up to mehammerI don't believe that the MR had anything to do with Caylee's death or in the moving or placing of Caylee's body.I think Casey did that all on her own.mo

8BellesFan
12-30-2008, 09:06 PM
I tell ya

If my daughter killed my grandbaby and was as big a liar as Casey A has appeared to be...I would want her handcuffed, shackled and at the funeral to witness the pain and heartache she caused.

If there was one ounce of humanity inside that callous shell, I would want to be there to witness it for myself. I would have to know if she felt an iota of anything before I could put it all to rest.

Thats just me.


Maybe they already know....I'm just sayin'

Regina.Lampert
12-30-2008, 09:06 PM
Its probably a rumor, to make people say "What the heck is wrong with these people".. followed by cursing.

I don't think Casey will attend anyway.

It's no rumor, these awful people actually want that murderer at Caylee's funeral. Catch up on all the reports today regarding this sickening development.

Pruddennce
12-30-2008, 09:07 PM
I thought they were just making clear to him that even though Lee was saying the laptop was "crashed" Casey could still access her accts via any computer.

(I recall Tony saying she was working ON her computer when Amy showed up. Didn't seem to be anything wrong with it then and Casey had no reason to attempt to do anything at that point. She didn't know her mother was outside yet.)

my term fix' I mean, MESSING WITH IT :)

you are correct...my recollection as well: that she was on her computer tapping away when mom and amy showed up.

I think LE was quite intrigued listening to Lee who left after midnight to go to the apt and didnt get back to the house until 2:30.....an awful lot of time to gather up her 'already packed bags' and unplug a laptop.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

sammielizabe
12-30-2008, 09:07 PM
I do believe the psychosocial background will be very interesting in this case.

Could you PM it to me please? TIA

playnice
12-30-2008, 09:07 PM
They need to shake down Hoover and find out what he knows.

summer4meplz
12-30-2008, 09:07 PM
Summer Thanks for the pic, doesn't look like CA or LA to me ?

You know ,Lee just looks much older then his what 26 years? Not the fact that his hair is graying ,but his face is pretty lined .He also seems pretty soft spoken and I just can't help but liking him from what I've seen so far .I hope no gut wrenching twist comes to play and changes that !


yvw.....i'm glad to see you back on....heard you were in a terrible car accident.....lots of prayers and good wishes for you in here last night....

the pic was MUCH tamer than I had expected.....

kitty1182
12-30-2008, 09:08 PM
I don't believe that the MR had anything to do with Caylee's death or in the moving or placing of Caylee's body.I think Casey did that all on her own.mo



Me too..Casey and only Casey.....

bluwaters
12-30-2008, 09:08 PM
The prosecution has nothing, release the babykiller immediately.


:punch:
It's so clear! Why didn't I see the light sooner?:lol:

boo
12-30-2008, 09:09 PM
my term fix' I mean, MESSING WITH IT :)

you are correct...my recollection as well: that she was on her computer tapping away when mom and amy showed up.

I think LE was quite intrigued listening to Lee who left after midnight to go to the apt and didnt get back to the house until 2:30.....an awful lot of time to gather up her 'already packed bags' and unplug a laptop.

IMO

best regards,
Pru


Probably all that 2 AM traffic and all.

MrsHudson
12-30-2008, 09:09 PM
I was reviewing one of the visits of the Anthony's with Casey. She had just come back from a visit with the psychologist. Cindy's first comment was, "We forgive you for anything you said." Casey said, "I didn't say anything, don't worry."

What do you make of that? Isn't that a bit strange?

http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html (http://www.wftv.com/video/18205452/index.html)

It's kind of crazy. For Cindy to forgive her for "anything" she said is different than saying "everything you said."

To say "anything" means Cindy is not aware of any specifics of what was said, but whatever was said, she is forgiving it. So it's like she's saying, no matter who you told what, we forgive you. Or whatever it may be that you said, we forgive you. Said to who? I guess the cops because who else did Casey have a chance to talk to?

Then Casey says, don't worry I did not say anything. Don't worry means what Casey may have said is incriminating, not to Casey but to her family because they are willing to forgive what was said.

It's wierd and I don't think we can ever figure out what was said that requires forgiveness. :confused:

summer4meplz
12-30-2008, 09:09 PM
did everyone get the pic.....I don't understand why we can't post the link in here....it's not porn.....

llylabrat
12-30-2008, 09:09 PM
Only if the jury finds them credible and I believe there's a real credibility issue with all of the Anthonys. As long as the Prosecution has plenty of evidence and doesn't actually need to rely on them to provide any facts that aren't otherwise supported, it should be alright.


Why would the prosecution need to put the Anthonys on the stand? Can't they get those jailhouse video tapes in without them? George and Cindy can't be trusted to be truthful. Lee either.

steffaroob4
12-30-2008, 09:10 PM
Well, if Dr. G did set a date of the death that only means one thing to me. Caylee was found with the clothes on GA described that she had on June 16th or the ines she had on the clothes from June 15th.

PROPROS
12-30-2008, 09:11 PM
It's no rumor, these awful people actually want that murderer at Caylee's funeral. Catch up on all the reports today regarding this sickening development.It's always more of the same from them...Save the murderer ,protect the murderer. mo

kitty1182
12-30-2008, 09:12 PM
The prosecution has nothing, release the babykiller immediately.


:punch:



LOL, release her....Bet she wouldn't last 24 hrs. out in public..LOL:biggrin:

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 09:13 PM
Lenny just said on NG that he has seen the tape and it is not of the exact area

Hey Paula
12-30-2008, 09:13 PM
did everyone get the pic.....I don't understand why we can't post the link in here....it's not porn.....

I haven't seen it.

bchand
12-30-2008, 09:13 PM
Of COURSE Lenny says he's seen this video.

steffaroob4
12-30-2008, 09:13 PM
What P.I. in his right mind would show anything to LP???:tongueside:

breezie
12-30-2008, 09:13 PM
They have no credibility at all. Why waste immunity on them? And now they think they're calling the shots. They've changed their stories so many times , and the Defense will bring up the stories that support Casey if they testify for the Prosecution, I can't see anyone believing one word they say.

I sincerely hope they say no thanks to the immunity. They've got an indictment, they have the evidence. Go ahead without them. Make them sweat.

True2Blues
12-30-2008, 09:13 PM
Why would the prosecution need to put the Anthonys on the stand? Can't they get those jailhouse video tapes in without them? George and Cindy can't be trusted to be truthful. Lee either.


I agree with you. I'd do it without them if it were possible, if it were me. I'm sure the defense might want to pout them on, but then there's sooooo much to discredit them with.

MalloryCat
12-30-2008, 09:13 PM
So who is going to be the first person to sue Lenny?

Regina.Lampert
12-30-2008, 09:14 PM
It's so clear! Why didn't I see the light sooner?:lol:

................:wink:

kitty1182
12-30-2008, 09:14 PM
You heard that did you . That pic , was that even CA ? I'm thinking it wasn't either of them ?



Probally not Lee, but it is Casey..IMO:smile:

WhiteShark
12-30-2008, 09:14 PM
What about the high water that was supposedly in the area where this baby was found? IIRC, media reported that the water had receded just a week or so before the remains were found.

Like many of you guys, I think the "big happening" some people heard about is gonna be obstruction---------by someone who moved or discovered the body and did not report it. IMOOC

ETA............everytime I hear this chickie say I would do anything, beg borrow lie steal or cheat to find my daughter----it makes me sick. I would bet it is like a knife stabbing the A's in the heart when they hear it as well, because those were the words she was saying to convince someone, anyone to bail her out. Of course, once she got out the only thing she did to help find Caylee was breathe precious air.

What a fool she made out of her entire family. If I were Lee I would want to smack the U-know-what out of her hourly 24/7

shelbar53
12-30-2008, 09:15 PM
The prosecution has nothing, release the babykiller immediately.


:punch:

Yes I agree, she was arrested on a fking whim.

steffaroob4
12-30-2008, 09:15 PM
So who is going to be the first person to sue Lenny?

There sure is gonna be one long azz line.:tonguewag:

neid_77
12-30-2008, 09:15 PM
i want to pose one question..i don't get much responses from what i post but that is fine..i mostly read i really appreciate ALL of you i get a mound of information from you all and thank you so VERY MUCH:smile:

this is my question now..............is this case really about caylee marie anthony anymore? listening to everything from the news anymore just doesn't seem like it:sad:

PROPROS
12-30-2008, 09:15 PM
Of COURSE Lenny says he's seen this video.Does LP want us to believe that if he heard the PI say that Caylee was dead that he wouldn't of blabbed it by now. Why look in the park then!:rolleyes:mo

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 09:16 PM
I think Nancy Grace should be very worried right now about her show, because this new gal is good! She is alot calmer and makes alot more sense and also she is very steady with her anchoring. She is good!

Leonard Padilla is talking about this guy mentioning this film back on the 15th right after the remains were found. After that, I have no idea what the heck is he talking about. So what else is new with this guy.

Jean Casarez (sp) she is always on True Tv as a reporter for In Session(this site lol) I think she is an awesome, well spoken, well informed reporter, they may give her her own show but Nancy has too many followers of her brand of journalism. imo

101Spots
12-30-2008, 09:16 PM
It's kind of crazy. For Cindy to forgive her for "anything" she said is different than saying "everything you said."

To say "anything" means Cindy is not aware of any specifics of what was said, but whatever was said, she is forgiving it. So it's like she's saying, no matter who you told what, we forgive you. Or whatever it may be that you said, we forgive you. Said to who? I guess the cops because who else did Casey have a chance to talk to?

Then Casey says, don't worry I did not say anything. Don't worry means what Casey may have said is incriminating, not to Casey but to her family because they are willing to forgive what was said.

It's wierd and I don't think we can ever figure out what was said that requires forgiveness. :confused:

Even worse, the actual quote included "done." As in "We forgive you for anything you've said or done." Casey responded that she didn't say anything, overlooking the "done."

Cindy granting absolution. What power she must have!

Calla
12-30-2008, 09:16 PM
The more videos I hear of George talking with casey alone in jail..the more I see him playing the homocide psyche game on her..he tried so hard to get her to break and tell the truth..

jmo

steffaroob4
12-30-2008, 09:16 PM
Does LP want us to believe that if he heard the PI say that Caylee was dead that he wouldn't of blabbed it by now. Why look in the park then!:rolleyes:mo

beyond bizzare, why is he allowed to keep talking like this????:blink:

OMG, daisy chain, again, someone needs to start reading the boards

bchand
12-30-2008, 09:17 PM
Its probably a rumor, to make people say "What the heck is wrong with these people".. followed by cursing.

I don't think Casey will attend anyway.

You think Casey has that choice?

Contrary to what been being reported, Conway said the Anthony's would like their daughter Casey, who is currently being held in the Orange County Jail charged with Caylee’s death, to be there for the private memorial.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=720E145BF39A1AA355FA0AE6E6F720FE ?contentId=8162426&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

playnice
12-30-2008, 09:17 PM
Jean Casarez (sp) she is always on True Tv as a reporter for In Session(this site lol) I think she is an awesome, well spoken, well informed reporter, they may give her her own show but Nancy has too many followers of her brand of journalism. imo

That can give her Janes spot.

MandyMia
12-30-2008, 09:17 PM
Of COURSE Lenny says he's seen this video.


LOL he is so transparent and predictable now!

breezie
12-30-2008, 09:17 PM
i want to pose one question..i don't get much responses from what i post but that is fine..i mostly read i really appreciate ALL of you i get a mound of information from you all and thank you so VERY MUCH:smile:

this is my question now..............is this case really about caylee marie anthony anymore? listening to everything from the news anymore just doesn't seem like it:sad:

until the trial, it will be about Casey, evidence, the defense. Once that trial starts and the prosecutors make opening statements, don't fear. Caylee will be front and center on everyone's mind.

legalmania
12-30-2008, 09:17 PM
It's so clear! Why didn't I see the light sooner?:lol:

This whole entire board has been so wrong how could we not know Casey was such an upstanding citizen.