Caylee Anthony - Dec 27/08 - Part 1

[True2Blues]

Turkey Rinds and cranberry juice.

Turkey rinds, are they like lean pork rinds? Oh ick!

[Neffy]

Looks like you are really getting into this. If you want go to www.findlaw you can find out laws such as statutes ect. that apply to your state. They also have a legal dictionary. The best is lexis-nexis but you have to pay for that.

Someone brought it up and posted about the filing of a Special Masters exparte motion. Wanted to know what we're dealing with here.

Until it's filed and we can pull the exact reason for it I thought I'd look into it. I hate being blind sided.

IF this is Baez's doing he's really scrambling to undercut the State's expert witness's and put his on a higher pedestal. IMO of course.

[tomsgirl]

Cury posted a couple of links from 12-22 Geraldo show. Sorry, I don't have the links, but it was on FOX if that helps.

I'm here in the Georgia woods too (God's Country) We can't even get cable tv - We had to get a satellite. Maybe we can keep each other informed about this case. I do get Geraldo. :patriot:

[True2Blues]

Christmas and any Holidays will never be the same for them.....
Casey has destroyed so many lives.......
She deserves all that is going to come her way...

And worse.

[kitty1182]

Turkey Rinds and cranberry juice.



Turkey rinds...LOL

[*MoonRider*]

I am prepared for the slamming for this:

I truly think the Anthony's are broken. I cant even imagine......there is no more hope.

I think they knew when the hair and air tests came back at the end of August. That's when they started hitting the talk shows big time to tell of live Caylee sightings. IMO

[legalmania]

they probably do. Too bad they aren't here to answer my question. I think its a good question.

I can try and look it up if you really need to know, the charges that Lee has pending?

[True2Blues]

I wonder if they're getting their newest stories straight for their 'next' law enforcement interview.

According to Brad Conway, the criminal defense attorney representing Cindy & George, they will be interviewed again.

I wonder if that's when Conway will seek 'full immunity' for his clients.

Well, they did promise they'd match this time.

[PuffDragon]

If you listen to the long phone interview one of the media outlets did with Nejame...it is very obvious he knows things regarding the A's that he isn't spilling right now, and there is more to the real reason he resigned than just the Garrison making some money. Maybe Cury can give us the link again. It's well worth a listen if you missed it.

You're very right, that was worth a listen. What an ethical man, and sensitive too! Now I see why Nancy Grace seemed to hold him in such high regard.

[neid_77]

I think they knew when the hair and air tests came back at the end of August. That's when they started hitting the talk shows big time to tell of live Caylee sightings. IMO


hey moonrider thanks for posting pictures sometiems a visual view helps out bunches!!!:thumbsup:

[Neffy]

I wonder if they're getting their newest stories straight for their 'next' law enforcement interview.

According to Brad Conway, the criminal defense attorney representing Cindy & George, they will be interviewed again.

I wonder if that's when Conway will seek 'full immunity' for his clients.


LOL! NO NO NO that's not what I said to say. Let's take five and start from the top again...........

[legalmania]

I'm here in the Georgia woods too (God's Country) We can't even get cable tv - We had to get a satellite. Maybe we can keep each other informed about this case. I do get Geraldo. :patriot:

Yes we have cable or dish here, but I don't know where to find Geraldo. I'm not going to waste my reminder on him.

[Amy]

Good afternoon, Everyone.

On June 2 -m14, WHO was Casey keeping company? That IMO will be the key to solving this case. although I believe that caylee was murdered out of spite and probably without much if any planning, SOMEBODY knew of her animosity and the capabilities of casey.

casey had no maney except for what was provided by the parents. OR, receipts from "boyfriends'

Follow the money trails.

IIRC, Casey was with her new friends. They remark about Caylee being brought along to adult parties, and tho't that was inappropriate. There were times Casey spend the night @ various houses--the one, was it Ricardo? where Caylee was there when they went to bed, but wasn't when he woke up later, and Casey says her mom called and told her to bring Caylee home. (And the call didn't even wake the poor guy!!) And the roomie's gf was concerned when she went to the apartment and Caylee was in the front room by herself (with access to the balcony while Casey and TonE were doing whatever in the bedroom, door closed.)

[happygert]

I am prepared for the slamming for this:

I truly think the Anthony's are broken. I cant even imagine......there is no more hope.

Not slamming you but the A's knew from the day they got casey's car from impound lot that Caylee was dead. They aren't coming out IMo because they have also been caught in there own lies. Our PI's say everything casey has said has been the truth.. George Caylee has been moved 9 times.. when asked when he was going there his reply was . I've been there.. Cindy the 911 call about the smell in car then she lied and said I said what ever I had to , to get LE there.. when asked again it was the pizza then asked on LKL. she never said that. I could go on about all there lies for hours.....OMG the lies never stop...

[tomsgirl]

Very cold. she's one cold hearted B***H...

And don't forget that "swing" in her hips. Wish I had a swing like that on my back porch!! JMO wow, that' an old saying. Telling my age now. LOL

[legalmania]

Someone brought it up and posted about the filing of a Special Masters exparte motion. Wanted to know what we're dealing with here.

Until it's filed and we can pull the exact reason for it I thought I'd look into it. I hate being blind sided.

IF this is Baez's doing he's really scrambling to undercut the State's expert witness's and put his on a higher pedestal. IMO of course.

Doesn't sound like Baez is getting the fan base he planned on. I have a feeling he's going to be doing a lot of d.u.i. cases after this one. Let me see if I can find the link for you to go to Casey docket and you can see all the motions that have been filed so far.

[MalloryCat]

I wonder if they're getting their newest stories straight for their 'next' law enforcement interview.

According to Brad Conway, the criminal defense attorney representing Cindy & George, they will be interviewed again.

I wonder if that's when Conway will seek 'full immunity' for his clients.


Why do you think Conway is lying to the public saying there are not any charges pending, why do you think the LE didn't do their job and got the killer behind bars? The LE are not dramatic, no one is going to wait until the end of a trial to charge grandparents or an unsuspecting brother, thats just not how it works, it really isn't.

[suzanne]

Here's a pic of the yard. IIRC they moved the playhouse over the 4th of July. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. The flags are where the dogs hit.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/yard.jpg
WOW,Thankyou,Thankyou.That's where the dog smelled something?Where the play house is now?

[happygert]

And don't forget that "swing" in her hips. Wish I had a swing like that on my back porch!! JMO wow, that' an old saying. Telling my age now. LOL

roflmao....dating yourself now.......

[*MoonRider*]

I can try and look it up if you really need to know, the charges that Lee has pending?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8150793&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

[True2Blues]

I don't even know what a rind made of meat is. But you're right... ick!

I think it's skin. Which doesn't sound so bad from a turkey, but pigs have hair. :scared:

[Amy]

Does anyone know where Casey was when EVERYONE THOUGHT SHE WAS AT WORK??? Where was Caylee? What was Casey up to? It's a lot of unexplained time?

Was it TonE's roomie or the roomie's gal who suspected that Casey spent the entire day in the apartment once everyone left for work.

[MalloryCat]

WOW,Thankyou,Thankyou.That's where the dog smelled something?Where the play house is now?

Do you really think if the body was stored in the playhouse, the dogs would not have hit there?

[happygert]

WOW,Thankyou,Thankyou.That's where the dog smelled something?Where the play house is now?

Look how close that fence is . That leads right to the place where Caylee's body was found. Theres a path through there..

[sunstar]

I think they knew when the hair and air tests came back at the end of August. That's when they started hitting the talk shows big time to tell of live Caylee sightings. IMO

They were suspicious from the time of picking up the car at the tow yard, and probably sure when those tests came back. But to protect Casey, denial set in. Now they can't do anything but remain quiet. MOO

[legalmania]

No.. you don't need to do that. But thanks for offering.
:smile:

Well here is a generic one anyway

http://law.findlaw.com/state-laws/criminal-statute-of-limitations/florida/

[5boxersmom]

WOW,Thankyou,Thankyou.That's where the dog smelled something?Where the play house is now?

See the red flags in the ground? That is where they hit. I think.

[tomsgirl]

I am prepared for the slamming for this:

I truly think the Anthony's are broken. I cant even imagine......there is no more hope.

Please don't beat me up either, but I think they are really sad and in a private he!!. I don't like them and I really don't like Casey, but I have suffered the death of a child and believe me, it is nothing that you will ever want to experience. Therefore, I believe they are truly sad and at the end of their rope. Just saying - hit me with cotton balls please. JMO

[suzanne]

Do you really think if the body was stored in the playhouse, the dogs would not have hit there?

No,the ground under the playhouse?Is that where the dog smelled something?Did the dog smell something where the play house is now in the picture?Did the dog smell something in the play house?

[sunstar]

Here's a pic of the yard. IIRC they moved the playhouse over the 4th of July. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. The flags are where the dogs hit.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/yard.jpg

It sure is nice to have a photo posted here! :smile:

[neid_77]

Was it TonE's roomie or the roomie's gal who suspected that Casey spent the entire day in the apartment once everyone left for work.

that's what i've always wondered if FILTHY anthony had no nanny..which i believe there was none...what the HECK was she doing with caylee all the time..what was she doing all this time with no job? did caylee go with her everywhere? wonder what this disgusting girl was doing with poor caylee:cursing:

[PuffDragon]

:mad:

i love this first of all she is walking around with sunglasses that she bought with amy's money!! no remorse there i'm just gonna keep walking around wearing these cuase they are mine! like qouted she reallythinks she is a celebarity doesn't she...she really thinks she top of the line...but in the end the only thing that makes her famous is how many people not only across the united states but around the world....just want to look at her and head to the toilet bowl!

Who carries a binder around like that anyway?? Aimed so that you have to see the title on the spine? When I carry a binder the spine is against my arm and my hand cups the narrow side against my chest. Anything else would be very awkward, I think.

[need2no]

You're very right, that was worth a listen. What an ethical man, and sensitive too! Now I see why Nancy Grace seemed to hold him in such high regard.

High regard??? I seem to recall Nancy tearing into Nejame and damaging a few of his body parts.

[Amy]

I agree, the missing funds were probably discovered and fought about earlier, I wish we had an exact date. Perhaps Shirley blasted Cindy for the way she handled this situation...once again not making casey accountable, and this is what got Cindy upset. On the other hand she could have been upset just because casey had been gone with Caylee for most of the month of June.

July 3rd activities are most interesting, including Lee and Cindy looking for casey, and Cindy's MySpace comments. Why this date, and not sooner, what prompted the search for casey?

Do you have any thoughts you'd like to share about how casey got around after leaving her car at Amscot?

TonE's vehicle, crying on the shoulders of old bf's asking for a ride, probably still had use of Amy's car? Could have walked to some places, depending on distance, etc. It's not like she had to worry about having her baby out in the heat or rain or dark.

[Barbara fl.]

Doesn't sound like Baez is getting the fan base he planned on. I have a feeling he's going to be doing a lot of d.u.i. cases after this one. Let me see if I can find the link for you to go to Casey docket and you can see all the motions that have been filed so far.



From the area that he operates from d.u.i.'s are probably the only type of cases he is used to...

I wonder how he ever got hooked up to this case?

[happygert]

what is so funny she has no phone numbers how could she have gotten this phone she kept from work if she hadn't been working for 2yrs?..she did say before they went to universal that she had gotten a phone from work....what makes me so mad:cursing: is they fully disprove her story and she thinks she can still fool them by going with it..how many times did she do this after...she was disproved every time...is this arragonce?..or just that she is smarter than 3 veteran detectives?:rolleyes:


Total arrogance.. She thinks if she says it long enough she'll convince them. Think the phone was one she bought with her Grandpas money. It was close to $400.. think it was $384.

[catdoc]

I wonder why no reporters have looked up Wanda Weary for a comment? She pestered Cindy "3 or 4 calls a day" then months later 'came out" to the media insisting her story was true. Now noone has held her accountable for perpetrating a hoax.

[5boxersmom]

High regard??? I seem to recall Nancy tearing into Nejame and damaging a few of his body parts.

Yep that was when he said if he ever found out they made money off Caylee he would resign. Then he did. Makes one go hmmmm.

[*MoonRider*]

They were suspicious from the time of picking up the car at the tow yard, and probably sure when those tests came back. But to protect Casey, denial set in. Now they can't do anything but remain quiet. MOO

Here's what Cindy said about the hair.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7324662&version=1&locale=EN-US

[suzanne]

See the red flags in the ground? That is where they hit. I think.
No,I didn't see the red flags.I'm sorry.I will look again.

[eastside joe]

And the roomie's gf was concerned when she went to the apartment and Caylee was in the front room by herself (with access to the balcony while Casey and TonE were doing whatever in the bedroom, door closed.)

I would like to reread that statement. Can someone shed some light or provide a link that would educate me as to the exact date of that alleged incident? What is the name of the person that alleged this? If anyone recalls.

[5boxersmom]

No,I didn't see the red flags.I'm sorry.I will look again.

They almost look like they are under the umbrella.

[neid_77]

Look how close that fence is . That leads right to the place where Caylee's body was found. Theres a path through there..

makes you wonder why filthy casey backed her car up into the garage those two day's and the day she asked to borrow the shovel...she was gone for almost 45min to and hour...could she have gone through a path from her backyard to the place they found caylee..to me those 2 day's are very big in the investigation. If she had nothing to hide why back the trunk of your car into the garage?

[Barbara fl.]

Look how close that fence is . That leads right to the place where Caylee's body was found. Theres a path through there..

I believe thats where the dogs hit on....

[MalloryCat]

You must be confusing me with someone else.

I never said I think any of the above. :)

Why do you think the criminal defense attorney representing Cindy & George is seeking 'full immunity' for his clients?

Why do you think the criminal defense attorney representing Lee believes the State Attorney's Office could seek to charge Lee with obstruction of justice or aiding & abetting?

No, I have you confused with no one.

Maybe I just assumed you have been following the case and read where Conway says he talked to the Attorney General and the OCPD, and they dont have any plans for charges, so you must think hes lying if you think he would ask for immunity, because why would he?

[happygert]

Do you really think if the body was stored in the playhouse, the dogs would not have hit there?

Yes I really think Casey put her in there for awhile..

[Amy]

Where did Casey get the money to go to places like this? Aren't they expensive? Considering she wasn't working.

Probably a pretty darn good moocher, too. As evidenced by sleeping @ whatever house would allow her to @ the time. Don't suppose she paid much in rent.

[Barbara fl.]

No,the ground under the playhouse?Is that where the dog smelled something?Did the dog smell something where the play house is now in the picture?Did the dog smell something in the play house?


Yes to all of the above....The dogs did hit in that area....and in the trunk

[True2Blues]

Here's what Cindy said about the hair.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7324662&version=1&locale=EN-US

If they ever need subtitles they can put, "Yes, I am totally ignorant on the subject and couldn't be bothered to find out before I ran to the camera."

[happygert]

makes you wonder why filthy casey backed her car up into the garage those two day's and the day she asked to borrow the shovel...she was gone for almost 45min to and hour...could she have gone through a path from her backyard to the place they found caylee..to me those 2 day's are very big in the investigation. If she had nothing to hide why back the trunk of your car into the garage?


Exactly!.....She had never backed her car in before that anyone knows of..

[MalloryCat]

Yes I really think Casey put her in there for awhile..

So do you think the dogs are not competent? Because they did not hit in the playhouse, do you think the decomp traces left would absorb threw the plastic playhouse and house themselves in the dirt, leaving no trace in the playhouse?

[Amy]

Yes, and both places are very expensive. Families really can't afford to take their little children anymore. Sad as it is. Far from what Walt Disney had in mind.

But, but....she had passes, or @ least nanny did!!! THAT must be how they could "afford" to go there!!! I wonder, in all the times the nanny took Caylee to the amusement parks, if she also made her ride the big, scary ones?

[suzanne]

They almost look like they are under the umbrella.
Yes,Thankyou.That's where you think the dogs smelled?

[catdoc]

I wonder if thats where the term "hairlip" comes from.

The term is harelip, an archaic term that stuck. Lip resembles a hare's lip. A more acceptable term is clept palate.

[MalloryCat]

Not unlike you... I'll wait until I hear the Attorney General & the OCPD state as much. ;)

A criminal defense attorney's words to the press mean nothing. But that's just me.

Well good, glad to see you are being reasonable, thats all I prayed for Xmas!:w00t:

[Amy]

I don't mean to find fault with LE, but I just don't understand why they didn't get a lot of things in the first search. Though the remains had not been found yet so maybe they didn't know what they were looking for. Maybe Lenny is right, maybe there was a bathing suit in the bag and LE couldn't find one in the home. The little blue Crocs have always haunted me for some reason. It's been 12 hours since last dose of cold meds, think I can take a hit now. I'll be back later.

They have to have a specific list for each search. They could only search on the info they had @ the time. When they discovered other things, other times, they had more things to add to the warrant.

[happygert]

I believe thats where the dogs hit on....

looks like there is a tire track if you look at he picture. something is patted down. I only see one. but its now really wide enough to see if theres another one. OH yes there is another one right in the top right corner you can see another indentation

[Neffy]

So do you think the dogs are not competent? Because they did not hit in the playhouse, do you think the decomp traces left would absorb threw the plastic playhouse and house themselves in the dirt, leaving no trace in the playhouse?

I thought where the dogs hit is where the playhouse was? It was moved was my understanding.

I'd imagine that LE were looking for backyard pics to verify this. We'll find this out at trial.

[True2Blues]

Yep that was when he said if he ever found out they made money off Caylee he would resign. Then he did. Makes one go hmmmm.

Doesn't it just. Good for him, for not being willing to victimize Caylee any further.

[5boxersmom]

Yes,Thankyou.That's where you think the dogs smelled?

Well, something made them put the flags there. Everything is moved in that picture. You can tell where the playhouse sat on the pavers or wood under the umbrella.

Cindy told Greta they hit around the playhouse and the sandbox.

[legalmania]

Someone brought it up and posted about the filing of a Special Masters exparte motion. Wanted to know what we're dealing with here.

Until it's filed and we can pull the exact reason for it I thought I'd look into it. I hate being blind sided.

IF this is Baez's doing he's really scrambling to undercut the State's expert witness's and put his on a higher pedestal. IMO of course.

Here is Caseys docket first you click the blue criminal then go to names put in anthony, casey then click details go down to docket. That's all the motions so far.

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/

[suzanne]

Yes to all of the above....The dogs did hit in that area....and in the trunk

Ok,Thankyou for answering me.I feel if the dog hit there.Caylee was probably there.

[sunstar]

Here's what Cindy said about the hair.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7324662&version=1&locale=EN-US

It's just more denial to the media and public but they had to know the truth in their hearts. MOO

[MalloryCat]

I thought where the dogs hit is where the playhouse was? It was moved was my understanding.

I'd imagine that LE were looking for backyard pics to verify this. We'll find this out at trial.

Ok, so logically you think if Caylee was placed in the playhouse, you think the dirt underneath it would alert the dogs, but not the actual playhouse?

[Barbara fl.]

looks like there is a tire track if you look at he picture. something is patted down. I only see one. but its now really wide enough to see if theres another one.


I just went back and looked....you're right, it looks as though it is a tire mark or something was drug thru there....

[Amy]

Scott Peterson was convicted on 11/12/2004 and the penalty phase ended on 12/13/2004. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson

The movie "The Perfect Husband" was released on 10/26/2004 in Hungary.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385940/

Hmm lawyers always find a way around those pesky laws. MOO

That doesn't say that SP had any involvement in the pic @ all. There were documentaries, books by many people--but none involved SP.

[Neffy]

Ok, so logically you think if Caylee was placed in the playhouse, you think the dirt underneath it would alert the dogs, but not the actual playhouse?


Yes, That is my opinion.

[PROPROS]

Well, something made them put the flags there. Everything is moved in that picture. You can tell where the playhouse sat on the pavers or wood under the umbrella.

Cindy told Greta they hit around the playhouse and the sandbox.Didn't Cindy say there were "inconsistant" hits by the dogs....Along with mis..statements and untruths.mo

[happygert]

So do you think the dogs are not competent? Because they did not hit in the playhouse, do you think the decomp traces left would absorb threw the plastic playhouse and house themselves in the dirt, leaving no trace in the playhouse?

NO I think THE DOGS ARE VERY COMPETENT! They HIT AROUND HER PLAY HOUSE!

[legalmania]

I thought where the dogs hit is where the playhouse was? It was moved was my understanding.

I'd imagine that LE were looking for backyard pics to verify this. We'll find this out at trial.

Yes I think your right Neffy they hit by the playhouse and I think by the house. The only thing I can think is Casey smelt of death and was all over that back yard, something made them hit, we will find out at trial.

[5boxersmom]

Here is a different view.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/Stories/Local/CAYLEE%20BACK%20YARD.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/Stories/Local/CAYLEE%2520BACK%2520YARD.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/7/22/bail_hearing_tuesday_for_mother_of_caylee_anthony. html&usg=__ijM_b6l3SmMwbYh4wwlS2OYjt3U=&h=480&w=640&sz=42&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=KbGwh1JnWsWQlM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcasey%2Banthony%2Bbackyard%26gbv%3D2% 26hl%3Den

[suzanne]

Well, something made them put the flags there. Everything is moved in that picture. You can tell where the playhouse sat on the pavers or wood under the umbrella.

Cindy told Greta they hit around the playhouse and the sandbox.

Ok,Thankyou for answering me.

[MalloryCat]

Yes, That is my opinion.

Ok, well, thats just not possible, but I respect your right to your opinion.

[sunstar]

Yes I really think Casey put her in there for awhile..

I too believe she was there, then put in the car trunk, then where she was found. :crying: MOO

[need2no]

CINDY ANTHONY: I was told that the dog was inconsistent on a hit here and...
VAN SUSTEREN: Here being right here at the house?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes. And inconsistent where her sandbox was.
VAN SUSTEREN: Which is where?
CINDY ANTHONY: Where it's at now, roughly.
VAN SUSTEREN: Oh, is this the sandbox?
CINDY ANTHONY: That's the sandbox.
VAN SUSTEREN: That has a cover on it. OK.
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: So there was -- there was an inconsistent alert here.
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, an inconsistent alert over in the corner of the house.
VAN SUSTEREN: Meaning over behind -- near the pool?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

3 hits: sandbox, playhouse, and near the pool, of course they were "inconsistent hits" according to Cindy. :lol:

[Barbara fl.]

Ok,Thankyou for answering me.I feel if the dog hit there.Caylee was probably there.


That is what has been thought...that she first put Caylee in the back yard then had second thought and put her in the trunk when she borrowed the shovel from the neighbor....

It sound like the only logical thing that could have happened, for the dogs to have picked up a scent in both places...

I think that after her father almost opened the trunk, it was a close call for Casey and she decided to get rid of the body fast and that could be why she put it where it was found.....JMO

[happygert]

Didn't Cindy say there were "inconsistant" hits by the dogs....Along with mis..statements and untruths.mo

Cindy told 2 different stories about the dogs.. She said the first dogs hit and the second one didnt . She said she called someone and they were suppose to have told her that the first dog was a plant. He hits on everything and second one dont.

[5boxersmom]

Didn't Cindy say there were "inconsistant" hits by the dogs....Along with mis..statements and untruths.mo

Yes she did but that is not what the dog handler said on the stand under oath.

[Neffy]

Didn't Cindy say there were "inconsistant" hits by the dogs....Along with mis..statements and untruths.mo

And she called people maggots and parasites.

First thing I disregard anything any of the Anthony's have said. That is except that first 911 call.

[Lavenia]

I think it's skin. Which doesn't sound so bad from a turkey, but pigs have hair. :scared:

When I was a kid and lived on a farm, our neighbors used to butcher pigs and make pork rinds. They coarsely shaved the "hair" and the oil that they fried the rinds in kinda, <gulp>, took care of the rest.

Bon apetit on the rinds Casey.

[kitty1182]

Here is a different view.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/Stories/Local/CAYLEE%20BACK%20YARD.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/Stories/Local/CAYLEE%2520BACK%2520YARD.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/7/22/bail_hearing_tuesday_for_mother_of_caylee_anthony. html&usg=__ijM_b6l3SmMwbYh4wwlS2OYjt3U=&h=480&w=640&sz=42&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=KbGwh1JnWsWQlM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcasey%2Banthony%2Bbackyard%26gbv%3D2% 26hl%3Den

What is that covered thing leading to the door? Is that a grill with a cover on it?

[MalloryCat]

NO I think THE DOGS ARE VERY COMPETENT! They HIT AROUND HER PLAY HOUSE!

Well, then her body was not in the playhouse because the Dogs would have went inside and made a ruckus, and that didn't happen, lets not operate under the assumption the yard is vast and spacious, basically everything is right by each other, they hit on other spots, not the playhouse.

[PROPROS]

NO I think THE DOGS ARE VERY COMPETENT! They HIT AROUND HER PLAY HOUSE!I believe the dogs...They have no reason to spin the evidence...They are on the side of truth...For the dogs...:patriot:

[suzanne]

NO I think THE DOGS ARE VERY COMPETENT! They HIT AROUND HER PLAY HOUSE!

I agree.I don't think the dogs would have hit there if she wasn't there.(Did that make sense LOL.)

[happygert]

I just went back and looked....you're right, it looks as though it is a tire mark or something was drug thru there....

yes and if you look at top of picture you can see another mark. top right hand corner. Could be tire marks.

[happygert]

I agree.I don't think the dogs would have hit there if she wasn't there.(Did that make sense LOL.)

Yes it makes sense nor do I.

[neid_77]

Cindy told 2 different stories about the dogs.. She said the first dogs hit and the second one didnt . She said she called someone and they were suppose to have told her that the first dog was a plant. He hits on everything and second one dont.


if i where these people i would keep a notebook of our stories that way they don't have to make up new one's as they go along...but can just consult their book and just pick up off the last BS story they told last...you think that is why cindy and george had bookds in there interviews?:biggrin:

[5boxersmom]

What is that covered thing leading to the door? Is that a grill with a cover on it?

Yes, I think it is.

[*MoonRider*]

CINDY ANTHONY: I was told that the dog was inconsistent on a hit here and...
VAN SUSTEREN: Here being right here at the house?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes. And inconsistent where her sandbox was.
VAN SUSTEREN: Which is where?
CINDY ANTHONY: Where it's at now, roughly.
VAN SUSTEREN: Oh, is this the sandbox?
CINDY ANTHONY: That's the sandbox.
VAN SUSTEREN: That has a cover on it. OK.
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: So there was -- there was an inconsistent alert here.
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, an inconsistent alert over in the corner of the house.
VAN SUSTEREN: Meaning over behind -- near the pool?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

3 hits: sandbox, playhouse, and near the pool, of course they were "inconsistent hits" according to Cindy. :lol:

If Cindy said it it must be true. :thumbsup:

[happygert]

I believe the dogs...They have no reason to spin the evidence...They are on the side of truth...For the dogs...:patriot:

Exaxctly They don't have a dog in this fight (so to speak)..they just are doing there job. nothing more nothing less

[Barbara fl.]

did not read the entire thread. just came back from the cape , visiting all my kids , so much to do. but took a quick peek, and Barbara your last few posts are right on. I agree totally with your concept . You got it right Barb. they have grieved, sadly, then exploitation came, media p.R. , and of course saving Casey. I believe that has been priority since the day they realizee Caylee was GONE. Their mission was to pray she was not found. The reasonable doubt factor to save their precious daughter , they worked diligently and profitably to create that doubt. but whammy Caylee was found, lawyer says shut you freaking mouths, you are hated, create sympathy, give toys away, ( what else could they do with them?) stop the freakin begging for money, two things at risk here, Casey's trial (verdict) and the money machine. Did they pay their mortage of yet? you betch. imo:ohmy:


I honestly feel that way.....There is just no way they could not have realized that Caylee was gone for good...between the odor in the car...all the lies....Caylee can not be found....no such nanny.....

Even the dumbest of dumb could have figured out what happened....

This family is not grieving poor Caylee....They are grieving for Casey's possible prison time....

Sad but I honestly believe that....

[Neffy]

Ok, well, thats just not possible, but I respect your right to your opinion.

Little tykes, decomp expert? Not possible says that. You don't agree is another story. No floor under those houses. Windows and Doors to that house are clearly open. Child laying in the middle of that. Ok Whatever. Happy to wait to hear it in court.

[PROPROS]

I too believe she was there, then put in the car trunk, then where she was found. :crying: MOOIs it possible that Caylee was killed out in the backyard and then moved. Would the dogs be able to hit on her decomp that quickly or does it take a certain amount of time.

[suzanne]

Yes she did but that is not what the dog handler said on the stand under oath.

May I ask what he said?

[kitty1182]

Yes, I think it is.

I wonder if the cover was removed for the dogs to check it out..
We have a smoker, and it's big enough to put a 2yr. old in..

[5boxersmom]

Little tykes, decomp expert? Not possible says that. You don't agree is another story. No floor under those houses. Windows and Doors to that house are clearly open. Child laying in the middle of that. Ok Whatever. Happy to wait to hear it in court.

Your right there is no floors in them. My grandson has a barn from Little Tykes and there is no floor.

[Amy]

I would be a lot more impressed if the had been in an area that wasn't already searched and not so close to the home, and if Caylee was discovered at that far away area that nobody had looked at before.

I don't know how thoroughly it could have been searched--in AUGUST the meter reader was giving directions and specifically said IN A SWAMPY AREA. Several time he repeated the info about the SWAMPY area, and then the hurricanes came. It most likely had NOT been searched, and certainly not by the faux TES searcher.

[happygert]

Well, then her body was not in the playhouse because the Dogs would have went inside and made a ruckus, and that didn't happen, lets not operate under the assumption the yard is vast and spacious, basically everything is right by each other, they hit on other spots, not the playhouse.

They hit right by playhouse! and the sandbox! Boom not arguing with you . Ignore is on..

[MalloryCat]

Little tykes, decomp expert? Not possible says that. You don't agree is another story. No floor under those houses. Windows and Doors to that house are clearly open. Child laying in the middle of that. Ok Whatever. Happy to wait to hear it in court.

Decomp, does not travel threw plastic and insert itself in the soil, its not possible.

[PROPROS]

Cindy told 2 different stories about the dogs.. She said the first dogs hit and the second one didnt . She said she called someone and they were suppose to have told her that the first dog was a plant. He hits on everything and second one dont.Of course it couldn't just be cut and dried in Anthonyland...Always has to be some twist and turn. Someone or Something is planted or out to frame them etc,ect.ect..

[need2no]

If Cindy said it it must be true. :thumbsup:



ABSOLUTELY!

I bet Cindy was pizzed when Greta followed the interview with her by going to Capt. Nieves and Padilla and advising them what Cindy said about inconsistent hits. Their response was they stood behind the dogs alerts 100%.

[happygert]

I wonder if the cover was removed for the dogs to check it out..
We have a smoker, and it's big enough to put a 2yr. old in..

OMG thats a thought kitty..... Our grill is too.

[MalloryCat]

They hit right by playhouse! and the sandbox! Boom not arguing with you . Ignore is on..

Wow Gert that is mature, I am sorry logic really upsets you. I truly am.

[happygert]

Of course it couldn't just be cut and dried in Anthonyland...Always has to be some twist and turn. Someone or Something is planted or out to frame them etc,ect.ect..

ITA! more twists and turn then on a candycane.

[kitty1182]

OMG thats a thought kitty..... Our grill is too.

I went outside a little bit ago and lifted our lid..You can easily put a child in there..

[Amy]

The child was murdered. The disney ride is irrelevant in the entire scheme of things. There was no history of abuse prior to her death.

There is history of abuse or neglect if indeed she DID take her small child on a ride inappropriate for one of that age, whether there are signs or not. And, it IS neglect in the least, if not abuse to take your young child to adult parties where all kind of things were going on. AND, one does NOT have to have broken bones to have been abused. There was NO soft tissue to determine if there were bruises under her clothing.

[PROPROS]

And she called people maggots and parasites.

First thing I disregard anything any of the Anthony's have said. That is except that first 911 call.Me too...I have never heard so many inconsistant,mistruths or mis..statements out of anyone, as I have heard coming from Casa Anthony!mo

[Barbara fl.]

They hit right by playhouse! and the sandbox! Boom not arguing with you . Ignore is on..


They hit by the playhouse, you are right.....you are also right with your ignore button.....

[MalloryCat]

You are right, by the time the dogs hit on the playhouse she had already been gone for some time. But the dogs would not have gone inside and "made a ruckus", when they are trained to hit, stop and sit, as an indicator to a hit. jmo

So you know for a fact the dog handlers overlooked the playhouse and the dog did not go in? Because if he did, and Caylee had been there, yes, everyone would have known, and more than likely that playhouse would have been hauled away early on, and it wasn't, they did take the dirt though from the area that the dogs hit however.

[happygert]

I went outside a little bit ago and lifted our lid..You can easily put a child in there..

Yes......in mine too...

[Neffy]

You are right, by the time the dogs hit on the playhouse she had already been gone for some time. But the dogs would not have gone inside and "made a ruckus", when they are trained to hit, stop and sit, as an indicator to a hit. jmo

My thought is that house was in the corner and moved to where we see it now. Just a guess. If you notice the sandbox is there along with Caylees little tykes picnic table. I just pictured that picnic table being more in approximity to the little tyke house which would then have to have been in the corner. Not one side of the yard with the house and the other side with the sandbox and little tykes table.

That's kind of how I placed my childrens things in my yard. I'm not saying my way is the right way but that was just my take and something I'd noticed.

[5boxersmom]

May I ask what he said?

It's in the transcripts somewhere, but he never said "inconsistent" hits.

[~jomomma~]

They did have a nice backyard.

where is the pool? :confused:

[happygert]

They hit by the playhouse, you are right.....you are also right with your ignore button.....

Thanks Barbara.. Not worth the risk of getting axed.

[Amy]

Could it be to make sure the MR does not get the reward money?

That's been settled. Seems county employees would not get rewards for things which occur on company time. They have already said he is not eligible. Haven't heard yet that he was contesting the policy.

[neid_77]

I'm thinking that the shovel she borrowed was used to cover her with sand/dirt from under the playhouse. She only had the shovel for a short while (according to neighbor)and did not have time to go some place and use the shovel and then return to the home.

do you think if she tried to bury her in their backyard that somehow some of the dirt made it's way into the plastic bag so therefor they can connect the dirt in the bag from their backyard? i believe she put caylee in the woods one of the day's or just after she backed into the garage...what she did those days when she backed her car up into the garage will fit into this case now.

[kitty1182]

Yes......in mine too...

If I were gonna hide something, that is where I would put what I was trying to hide...Put cover back on till I could move what I had hidden..
Replace cover..

[MalloryCat]

I think it's one of those cushioned wicker couches. Or loveseat type thing.

Yeah, a grill that size would cost a fortune, and all that money in that family went to supporting George and Casey, not a grill. jmo

[5boxersmom]

Decomp, does not travel threw plastic and insert itself in the soil, its not possible.


They do not have plastic floors. They have no floors.

[need2no]

If I were gonna hide something, that is where I would put what I was trying to hide...Put cover back on till I could move what I had hidden..
Replace cover..

Makes sense, could be why casey's pants smelled of smoke.

[kitty1182]

I think it's one of those cushioned wicker couches. Or loveseat type thing.

I thought maybe it was a smoker.....You are probally right, didn't think of that...
I know our smoker is huge like that..

[Amy]

Sorry being lazy about scrolling back. Did you mention in your original post who was filing this?

This looks like it's calling into question the opinions of "experts"

There is nothing except the exparte motion for special master notation. No information on who filed it, nor what it could be for.

[tomsgirl]

Here is a different view.

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/Stories/Local/CAYLEE%20BACK%20YARD.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/Stories/Local/CAYLEE%2520BACK%2520YARD.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/7/22/bail_hearing_tuesday_for_mother_of_caylee_anthony. html&usg=__ijM_b6l3SmMwbYh4wwlS2OYjt3U=&h=480&w=640&sz=42&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=KbGwh1JnWsWQlM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcasey%2Banthony%2Bbackyard%26gbv%3D2% 26hl%3Den

Where in the world is the swimming pool? That yard is the size of a postage stamp! Am I missing it or is it not in the picture? TY

[eastside joe]

I think that after her father almost opened the trunk, it was a close call for Casey and she decided to get rid of the body fast and that could be why she put it where it was found.....JMO

Could be, Barbara, but I for one do not believe that to be true. I believe Casey wanted the body to be found to punish mother Cindy. This was an angry murder, IMO. Had this been an accident, I don't believe Caylee would have been disposed of and subsequently found in a garbage bag with duct tape as has been alleged. The book, the picture, if they were found with or near the body were included for a reason and purpose. Payback to Cindy! IMO

[happygert]

where is the pool? :confused:

very good question dont see it in this picture.

[need2no]

They do not have plastic floors. They have no floors.


No, they don't. I checked out this website and a reviewer who wasn't too happy with the playhouse wrote:

i was going to buy the cheaper one and then i went with this one.
i do not like it at all.
my daughter will not even play in it.
it has no floor, the phone does nothing, it is small.
the dogs like it.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5623442&sourceid=1500000000000003260420&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=5623442

[Amy]

Oh Amy, are you directing this to everyone who ponders if Caylee is a product of incest? And, btw, there are rumors Caylees father was a security guy at Universal, I could seriously care less, as I am well aware it does not matter, and shouldnt even matter in this case, but thats just me.

No, it was in response to a post where one poster thinks all males working @ Universal @ the time of Caylee's conception should have to provide DNA samples.

But, when it all comes down to brass tacks, who Caylee's father is does not impact her murder. IMO, of course.

[kitty1182]

Where in the world is the swimming pool? That yard is the size of a postage stamp! Am I missing it or is it not in the picture? TY

I think it's up to the right of the pic, pass the bushes?:confused:

[sunstar]

That is what has been thought...that she first put Caylee in the back yard then had second thought and put her in the trunk when she borrowed the shovel from the neighbor....

It sound like the only logical thing that could have happened, for the dogs to have picked up a scent in both places...

I think that after her father almost opened the trunk, it was a close call for Casey and she decided to get rid of the body fast and that could be why she put it where it was found.....JMO

Exactly my thoughts all along too. She hadn't really thought out how she'd dispose of Caylee's body. I too think Caylee was still in the trunk on 6/24 when George wanted his gas cans. MOO

[need2no]

very good question dont see it in this picture.

I have a pic of the backyard with the pool I was going to post, but for some reason all of a sudden my insert image is not working. :ohmy:

[kitty1182]

Exactly my thoughts all along too. She hadn't really thought out how she'd dispose of Caylee's body. I too think Caylee was still in the trunk on 6/24 when George wanted his gas cans. MOO

I think she was too and that was the day she dumped her in the woods...
:angry:

[PROPROS]

very good question dont see it in this picture.Maybe on the other side of the indoor patio. mo

[Neffy]

There is nothing except the exparte motion for special master notation. No information on who filed it, nor what it could be for.

Thanks. This should be interesting.

[MalloryCat]

They do not have plastic floors. They have no floors.

Ok, interesting, but do you think the decomp would not attach itself to the inside? Because I know it would. However, why would anyone think Caylee laid in the backyard for days at a time, its just not plausible the smell would have permeated everything, including neighbors homes, and the dogs would have freaked out, its just not logical. I believe she was placed in the trunk right after death, at least a few hours after. No way was she leaving that body to possibly be discovered in her backyard, no way.

jmo moo imo

[5boxersmom]

For everyone asking the pool is over on the other side of the yard. Past the screened in porch. It would be behind the garage when you are looking at the front of the house.

[steffaroob4]

Cleaning out the garage today, found a hunting backpack that would easily fit a child the size of Caylee. I wonder if she put her in a pack and just walked to that spot, of course where she was found so close to the road...

Do you think the bag could have been placed deeper in brush and it moved during Faye?

[Amy]

5 dollars I had no idea. I wouldn't pay that much either. That's outrageous.

That's why, if I have the time, I pick the longest check out line. The only problem then is, when I get home, I have forgotten some of the particulars about the article, which makes it hard to report what they said!!!!

[Barbara fl.]

Could be, Barbara, but I for one do not believe that to be true. I believe Casey wanted the body to be found to punish mother Cindy. This was an angry murder, IMO. Had this been an accident, I don't believe Caylee would have been disposed of and subsequently found in a garbage bag with duct tape as has been alleged. The book, the picture, if they were found with or near the body were included for a reason and purpose. Payback to Cindy! IMO

Yes, I too believe that Casey murdered Caylee out of anger toward her parents....but when I take into consideration that she was looking up all those things on her computer dating back to March, it seems that she had been planning this all along....My thought on that...is if she was planning this for some time and then the big fight happened between Cindy and her and she couldn't take Caylee to Tone's house she decided to just go ahead and get rid of her problem (which was Caylee) but even she knew that she would go to prison for the rest of her life, and she did not want that to happen.....

So, I believe she dropped that bag in that spot with the intentions of moving it later on but never got the opportunity to do so....

I think that she enjoyed telling her mother that Caylee was missing....but I doubt that she wanted it to be known that Caylee was dead.....JMO

[eastside joe]

But, when it all comes down to brass tacks, who Caylee's father is does not impact her murder. IMO, of course.

Unless Lee was the father of Caylee. Then it presents a potential motivating factor in Casey's decision to murder Caylee. IMO

[5boxersmom]

Exactly my thoughts all along too. She hadn't really thought out how she'd dispose of Caylee's body. I too think Caylee was still in the trunk on 6/24 when George wanted his gas cans. MOO

I wonder if the 24th didn't go something like this.

Casey comes in the house, George tells her he is going to get the wedge out of her trunk. She can't get it because it is screwed down inside the spare tire thing. George goes to the bathroom or to take a shower and Casey panics about George getting in the trunk, drives around the corner, dumps the remains and comes back. George does not even know she left.

Just putting out theories.

[Neffy]

So you know for a fact the dog handlers overlooked the playhouse and the dog did not go in? Because if he did, and Caylee had been there, yes, everyone would have known, and more than likely that playhouse would have been hauled away early on, and it wasn't, they did take the dirt though from the area that the dogs hit however.

There's no floor in the playhouse. Why would they haul the walls and roof away? Yes, there is dirt under that playhouse is that what they hauled away?

Maybe LE investigators lifted that house up to haul the dirt away. Do you think they would have crawled into that playhouse thru that little plastic door to dig. ROFL. Sorry not laughing at you just crouching shovel digging LE.

[5boxersmom]

Ok, interesting, but do you think the decomp would not attach itself to the inside? Because I know it would. However, why would anyone think Caylee laid in the backyard for days at a time, its just not plausible the smell would have permeated everything, including neighbors homes, and the dogs would have freaked out, its just not logical. I believe she was placed in the trunk right after death, at least a few hours after. No way was she leaving that body to possibly be discovered in her backyard, no way.

jmo moo imo

It would depend on how long she was there and if she was covered or in a bag. I don't think she was there long but I do believe she was there.

[5boxersmom]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/071808cayleehomesearch/1/imgLg/071808searchathome1.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/071808cayleehomesearch/1/imgLg/071808searchathome1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/071808cayleehomesearch/1/lg/071808searchathome1.htm&usg=__tcUKXG5GpjnWIqNs1PyGDpBsZkk=&h=480&w=640&sz=161&hl=en&start=28&tbnid=D0aNdwK1tc00SM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&prev=/images%3Fq%3Danthony%2527s%2Bbackyard%26start%3D18 %26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

[sunstar]

Cleaning out the garage today, found a hunting backpack that would easily fit a child the size of Caylee. I wonder if she put her in a pack and just walked to that spot, of course where she was found so close to the road...

Do you think the bag could have been placed deeper in brush and it moved during Faye?

Caylee weighed between 30-35 lbs. I don't think Casey carried her any further than necessary so she most likely drove over there and I also believe she was already in the car's trunk. MOO

[bama__angel]

It would depend on how long she was there and if she was covered or in a bag. I don't think she was there long but I do believe she was there.



I do NOT remember which document I read this, therefore, I cant give a link.......But one of the decomp tests from car trunk indicated that Caylee had been in the trunk approximately 2.6 days.

[5boxersmom]

I have a pic of the backyard with the pool I was going to post, but for some reason all of a sudden my insert image is not working. :ohmy:

I posted one for ya. :biggrin:

[Neffy]

I do NOT remember which document I read this, therefore, I cant give a link.......But one of the decomp tests from car trunk indicated that Caylee had been in the trunk approximately 2.6 days.


And that was a closed trunk. I doubt it's possible in an open air little tykes house. But I do believe the soil underneath would hold some kind of evidence.

[Barbara fl.]

I wonder if the 24th didn't go something like this.

Casey comes in the house, George tells her he is going to get the wedge out of her trunk. She can't get it because it is screwed down inside the spare tire thing. George goes to the bathroom or to take a shower and Casey panics about George getting in the trunk, drives around the corner, dumps the remains and comes back. George does not even know she left.

Just putting out theories.


I also believe that Caylee's body was still in the car when George went to go in the trunk....However, according to George's statement to LE, he said that when he went to go to the trunk, Casey ran ahead of him and got out what he wanted, then jumped in the car and told her father she was late for work....

My theory is that this was a very close call, probably too close for comfort and she knew she had to get rid of the body...she had to know that she already caused suspiscion with George so she wasn't going to take any chances and leave that body there any longer....She drove down the block to where she was familiar and dumped the body there....

She probably had intentions of going back and moving it but didn't get the opportunity to do so...(she was having too much fun)...

JMO.....

[frances1]

Don't forget the dogs also hit on the sandbox. I think I remember speculation on these boards that she might have put Caylee in the sandbox, perhaps only for a few minutes or hours until she could figure out what to do with her. The sandbox had a lid. My granddaughters have one like it.

[need2no]

I posted one for ya. :biggrin:

Thank you...I posted a pic earlier today, but now it won't work. :cursing:

[eastside joe]

Yes, I too believe that Casey murdered Caylee out of anger toward her parents....but when I take into consideration that she was looking up all those things on her computer dating back to March, it seems that she had been planning this all along....My thought on that...is if she was planning this for some time and then the big fight happened between Cindy and her and she couldn't take Caylee to Tone's house she decided to just go ahead and get rid of her problem (which was Caylee) but even she knew that she would go to prison for the rest of her life, and she did not want that to happen.....

So, I believe she dropped that bag in that spot with the intentions of moving it later on but never got the opportunity to do so....

I think that she enjoyed telling her mother that Caylee was missing....but I doubt that she wanted it to be known that Caylee was dead.....JMO

So you are factoring in Tony as more of a motivating factor than I am at this point. We are going to learn a lot more regarding this theory when they release the 90 + text messages exchaged by Casey and Tony the evening of June 15 into the early morning hours of June 16. I've been anxious to see these text messages for a long time. It seems reasonable to believe these text messages appear relevant to the prosecution as it relates to Casey's motivation.

[sunstar]

I wonder if the 24th didn't go something like this.

Casey comes in the house, George tells her he is going to get the wedge out of her trunk. She can't get it because it is screwed down inside the spare tire thing. George goes to the bathroom or to take a shower and Casey panics about George getting in the trunk, drives around the corner, dumps the remains and comes back. George does not even know she left.

Just putting out theories.

I'm not sure how long she was over at the house but I seem to remember the time being around 2:30pm and then there's a phone call or text msg. from her phone around 2:45pm (sorry I don't know where to look that up at the moment) ~ but from what we do know it sure seems she didn't want her dad anywhere near that car trunk. MOO

[happygert]

Exactly my thoughts all along too. She hadn't really thought out how she'd dispose of Caylee's body. I too think Caylee was still in the trunk on 6/24 when George wanted his gas cans. MOO

ITA that she was still in the trunk on 6/24.

[Amy]

No, I have you confused with no one.

Maybe I just assumed you have been following the case and read where Conway says he talked to the Attorney General and the OCPD, and they dont have any plans for charges, so you must think hes lying if you think he would ask for immunity, because why would he?

I don't know why he would, but in the very same interview where he is saying there are no pending charges against his clients, he is persuing looking into immunity for them. Double speak going on here. Why would he be persuing immunity for his clients if he is sure there will be no charges filed? And, just because there might not be any plans for charges AT THIS TIME does not mean they will not plan for charges if they see the need to later.

[sunstar]

I also believe that Caylee's body was still in the car when George went to go in the trunk....However, according to George's statement to LE, he said that when he went to go to the trunk, Casey ran ahead of him and got out what he wanted, then jumped in the car and told her father she was late for work....

My theory is that this was a very close call, probably too close for comfort and she knew she had to get rid of the body...she had to know that she already caused suspiscion with George so she wasn't going to take any chances and leave that body there any longer....She drove down the block to where she was familiar and dumped the body there....

She probably had intentions of going back and moving it but didn't get the opportunity to do so...(she was having too much fun)...

JMO.....

Apparently she did sneak into the house after that for food from the refrigerator (at least on the 27th) but maybe she wasn't in the neighborhood much after that since abandoning her car at Amscot. I think once Caylee was out of the car trunk she was out of Casey's mind ~ until 7/15 when it all caught up to her. MOO

[need2no]

VAN SUSTEREN: Was something reported stolen from this, though?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, gas cans.
VAN SUSTEREN: When was that report made that gas cans were stolen?
CINDY ANTHONY: You'd have to ask George.
VAN SUSTEREN: Was that, though, before Caylee was -- had been reported missing or after, that the gas cans...
CINDY ANTHONY: That was before.
GEORGE ANTHONY: Absolutely.
VAN SUSTEREN: And gas cans were -- how many gas cans?
GEORGE ANTHONY: Two, the 2-and-a-half-gallon and one about a gallon- and-a-quarter, something like that.
VAN SUSTEREN: Now, you made the report on June 24, though. That's when you noticed it. Do you remember when you last were in there, so you have some sort of window of when that could have happened?
GEORGE ANTHONY: It could have been Sunday. I believe I was in there Sunday. I don't believe I was in there the day before that, like, on the 23rd. I'm almost positive it's a Sunday.
VAN SUSTEREN: So the Sunday the 23rd, you might have been in there?
CINDY ANTHONY: Well, Sunday would have been the 22nd.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So as best you can tell, it happened between the 22nd and the 24th. someone broke in there.
GEORGE ANTHONY: Uh-huh.

In George's interview with LE he knew exactly what date this occurred, no hesitation.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Uh-huh.

That's when I saw my daughter. I was getting ready to go to work, and the garage door goes open and my daughter comes in. This is about 2:25, 2:30 in the afternoon on the 24th. As she comes in the house, and I said, Hey, how're you doing? And she says, Fine, Dad. I says, Well, what's going on? And she says, Oh, I'm just stopping home for about 10 minutes, get some clothes. I go to go back to work. Where's Caylee? She's with Zanny. And I said, OK, when are you guys coming home? She says, Oh, we'll be back home maybe late tonight or the next day.

I said, OK. Have you been talking to Mom? Oh, yes, I talk to Mom every day. I said, I know, but did you talk to Mom today? She sort of hesitated for a moment and she says, Yes. And she says, Oh, by the way, it's a shame what happened in the shed. And I said...

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, because (INAUDIBLE)

GEORGE ANTHONY: And I said, Really? She says, yes. I said, Interesting. And I just said, Hey, by the way, I said, I'm getting ready to rotate your mom's tires on her car. There's a little metal wedge that fits underneath your tires so your car doesn't rock back and forth. And I said, Well, I'd like to have it, so in case you're not here over the weekend, I'd like to be able to do it.

She was hesitant about letting me get in the car. And I said, Well, listen, I got an extra key. I'll just go get it. Well, she was adamant about -- about that.

VAN SUSTEREN: What, not letting you into the car?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Yes, didn't want me to get into the car to get the stuff out. Dad, I'll get it for you. Dad, I'll get it out. I said, It's no problem. I know where it's at. I'll get it, get it out and be done with it.

So as we're walking out through the garage, she's still telling me, Dad, I'll get it. Give me a minute, I'll get it. I said, Casey, I'm capable of reaching inside your car, and I got it. So -- and she opened up the trunk of the car...

Not the same version as casey practically threw the cans at him.

CINDY ANTHONY: The gas cans were there.

GEORGE ANTHONY: (INAUDIBLE) The gas cans there. She's the one that took the gas cans.

[ellegna]

CINDY ANTHONY: I was told that the dog was inconsistent on a hit here and...
VAN SUSTEREN: Here being right here at the house?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes. And inconsistent where her sandbox was.
VAN SUSTEREN: Which is where?
CINDY ANTHONY: Where it's at now, roughly.
VAN SUSTEREN: Oh, is this the sandbox?
CINDY ANTHONY: That's the sandbox.
VAN SUSTEREN: That has a cover on it. OK.
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: So there was -- there was an inconsistent alert here.
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, an inconsistent alert over in the corner of the house.
VAN SUSTEREN: Meaning over behind -- near the pool?
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

3 hits: sandbox, playhouse, and near the pool, of course they were "inconsistent hits" according to Cindy. :lol:

I recall seeing Cindy interviewed and she went on and on about the dogs alerting to the playhouse. She proceeded to say that George had cut himself and was sweating as he moved the playhouse from on spot to the other and the dogs to his blood and sweat. Darn if I can find that interview but I do have her on LKL asking Dr Daniel Spitz about sweat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi1W6Aoly3I&feature=related

[Barbara fl.]

Apparently she did sneak into the house after that for food from the refrigerator (at least on the 27th) but maybe she wasn't in the neighborhood much after that since abandoning her car at Amscot. I think once Caylee was out of the car trunk she was out of Casey's mind ~ until 7/15 when it all caught up to her. MOO



You are right....Casey probably was enjoying her freedom and never gace Caylee a second thought......


I hope she burns for what she did.....

[bama__angel]

ITA that she was still in the trunk on 6/24.



If Caylee was killed on June 16, then if she was still in the trunk on 6/24 that is 8 days. Has George ever indicated that he was aware of the smell in the car the day Casey gave him the gas cans? If he was even close to the car that day, I think he would have been assaulted by it.

MOO

[eastside joe]

I also believe that Caylee's body was still in the car when George went to go in the trunk....However, according to George's statement to LE, he said that when he went to go to the trunk, Casey ran ahead of him and got out what he wanted, then jumped in the car and told her father she was late for work....
JMO.....

But that's the thing, George never got the tire wedge that he wanted. Casey opened the trunks and took out the gas cans and said "Here ar your eff...ing gas cans" closed the trunk and left.

As to your theory that Casey immediately disposed of the body after the possible close call with George this is the same theory that Lenny Padilla has stated and IMO if LP believes something to be true in this case, I tend to believe it is false. It does not appear to me his theories are well thought out. :smile:

[happygert]

I have a pic of the backyard with the pool I was going to post, but for some reason all of a sudden my insert image is not working. :ohmy:

Thanks need2no

[neid_77]

Apparently she did sneak into the house after that for food from the refrigerator (at least on the 27th) but maybe she wasn't in the neighborhood much after that since abandoning her car at Amscot. I think once Caylee was out of the car trunk she was out of Casey's mind ~ until 7/15 when it all caught up to her. MOO

funny after using all of amy's money she has to go back to taking things from her parents house to feed her precious boyfriend....the people she doesn't want to see but she will go back to get food from them......this girl is so dispecable in so many ways i have lost count:cursing: imo she doesn't even deserve the air she breathes..she is flat out repulsive!

[Barbara fl.]

But that's the thing, George never got the tire wedge that he wanted. Casey opened the trunks and took out the gas cans and said "Here ar your eff...ing gas cans" closed the trunk and left.

As to your theory that Casey immediately disposed of the body after the possible close call with George this is the same theory that Lenny Padilla has stated and IMO if LP believes something to be true in this case, I tend to believe it is false. :smile:



:lol: I couldn't agree with you more...If Lenny Padilla thought this then I must be wrong.....because I too do not believe a single thing that man has to say....

So therefore I will retract my theory gracefully.........

[happygert]

If Caylee was killed on June 16, then if she was still in the trunk on 6/24 that is 8 days. Has George ever indicated that he was aware of the smell in the car the day Casey gave him the gas cans? If he was even close to the car that day, I think he would have been assaulted by it.

MOO

IMO he wasn't close enough to that car... JMO if he was and smelled it he still wouldn't say he did.....

[Lavenia]

We didn't shave no pigs.....dipped them in boiling water and took a brush, it was easier then using Nair.....though I doubt many people want to remove their own hair by putting their legs or any body parts in scolding, boiling water for a minute or two.

I read your post about the hot water and I had forgotten about that! It was after that "bath" that they used a knife in much the same way your folks used a brush to "shave" the hog. The hot oil took care of the rest. Nummy num.

I wonder if Casey knows how humble her rinds are? (And her pig's,too!) :laugh:

[Amy]

Decomp, does not travel threw plastic and insert itself in the soil, its not possible.

What they are saying is that there is no floor, no plastic floor in the playhouse. If Caylee was put in the playhouse, she would have been lying on the ground because there is no floor.

[SandyO]

:lol: I couldn't agree with you more...If Lenny Padilla thought this then I must be wrong.....because I too do not believe a single thing that man has to say....

So therefore I will retract my theory gracefully.........

Your theory is the best one yet, Barb. Lenny can't be wrong about everything!

[suzanne]

Where in the world is the swimming pool? That yard is the size of a postage stamp! Am I missing it or is it not in the picture? TY

Well,I don't see it either.Is it in what looks like screen porch area?

[Barbara fl.]

What they are saying is that there is no floor, no plastic floor in the playhouse. If Caylee was put in the playhouse, she would have been lying on the ground because there is no floor.


Can you repeat that........(just kidding) :rolleyes:

[Amy]

So you know for a fact the dog handlers overlooked the playhouse and the dog did not go in? Because if he did, and Caylee had been there, yes, everyone would have known, and more than likely that playhouse would have been hauled away early on, and it wasn't, they did take the dirt though from the area that the dogs hit however.

From what I am understanding, the dirt where they hit was the area where the playhouse that does not have a floor had been prior to the search. If Caylee was put in the play house, it was on the dirt, and when the play house was moved, the scent stayed with the dirt, which is why the dogs alerted there. It could very well be that nothing of Caylee actually touched a part of the play house.

[Neffy]

You really don't want to shave the pig.....if you use a knife, you use a dull bladed knife......you want to pull the hair out root and all.....so they probably used a dull knife as well.

.......... barf

[Lavenia]

You really don't want to shave the pig.....if you use a knife, you use a dull bladed knife......you want to pull the hair out root and all.....so they probably used a dull knife as well.

That's what I mean. Not to cut the hair but help it slough off after the skin was scalded and the hair came loose.

[Amy]

If I were gonna hide something, that is where I would put what I was trying to hide...Put cover back on till I could move what I had hidden..
Replace cover..

But not if it was an oft used item. Some people around here use their grills ALL the time when whether permits.

[sunstar]

You are right....Casey probably was enjoying her freedom and never gace Caylee a second thought......


I hope she burns for what she did.....

I remember that text to Amy that she'd "gotten rid of" the smell in her car. That just seemed so cold so it wasn't any surprise Caylee was found in trash bags. :crying: MOO

[eastside joe]

:lol: I couldn't agree with you more...If Lenny Padilla thought this then I must be wrong.....because I too do not believe a single thing that man has to say....

So therefore I will retract my theory gracefully.........

LOL Barbara. Your theory has merit and could well be true. :wink:

[MalloryCat]

From what I am understanding, the dirt where they hit was the area where the playhouse that does not have a floor had been prior to the search. If Caylee was put in the play house, it was on the dirt, and when the play house was moved, the scent stayed with the dirt, which is why the dogs alerted there. It could very well be that nothing of Caylee actually touched a part of the play house.

Ok, but if you can lift air samples out of a trunk that aired out in the Anthony garage, I am pretty sure the smell would permeate the interior of the playhouse, the dogs never hit in the playhouse, you think if they did it would still be in that backyard and not in LE custody?

[Duckaroo]

I wonder what Casey's reaction would be if..just for the heck of it, LE was able to go to her and say something like "Well, we have found Zanny, along with her sister Sam and her mother Gloria" they claim to have had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance nor her death, and they have a solid alibi that checks out.

[need2no]

Well,I don't see it either.Is it in what looks like screen porch area?

Scroll upthread to post 1056 for a pic of the pool.

[need2no]

I wonder what Casey's reaction would be if..just for the heck of it, LE was able to go to her and say something like "Well, we have found Zanny, along with her sister Sam and her mother Gloria" they claim to have had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance nor her death, and they have a solid alibi that checks out.



:lol: I would pay good money to witness her reaction.

[frances1]

Ok, but if you can lift air samples out of a trunk that aired out in the Anthony garage, I am pretty sure the smell would permeate the interior of the playhouse, the dogs never hit in the playhouse, you think if they did it would still be in that backyard and not in LE custody?

Sorry, but this is reeeeaaaallllly reaching. Those play houses are hard, impermeable plastic.

[Neffy]

Ok, but if you can lift air samples out of a trunk that aired out in the Anthony garage, I am pretty sure the smell would permeate the interior of the playhouse, the dogs never hit in the playhouse, you think if they did it would still be in that backyard and not in LE custody?


This is not a closed in air tight structure. An open-ended upside down cardboard box on the ground is more closed in then that house.

You have no idea what this house actually is and how it's constructed. Not much to them.

[sunstar]

funny after using all of amy's money she has to go back to taking things from her parents house to feed her precious boyfriend....the people she doesn't want to see but she will go back to get food from them......this girl is so dispecable in so many ways i have lost count:cursing: imo she doesn't even deserve the air she breathes..she is flat out repulsive!

She didn't have access to Amy's money until Amy went on vacation the early part of July to the 15th of July. Casey reportedly had taken the food from her parents house in June. :) MOO

[shelbar53]

There is person in florida is putting up and maintaing a memorial for caylee at the site where she was found. she has included a po box if someone wants to send a poem or trinket for her to place at the memorial


http://babyboomeradvisorclub.com/caylee-anthony-info-caylee-mourners-nationwide-need-healing-time/
Caylee Anthony Info-Caylee Mourners Nationwide Need Healing Time and it is never more evident than in Orlando, Florida, where caring people are able to reach out and drop off a toy, card, letter and even a large pink cross…

People in the Orlando are are still coming to the site where little Caylee Anthony’s remains were found and driving by the Grandparents home, wondering what is going on inside and perhaps wondering even more…if that is where little Caylee actually died.

[Barbara fl.]

I wonder what Casey's reaction would be if..just for the heck of it, LE was able to go to her and say something like "Well, we have found Zanny, along with her sister Sam and her mother Gloria" they claim to have had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance nor her death, and they have a solid alibi that checks out.




That would be real good thinking to do......I would love to see her face...they should do that and tape her reaction.....



I love it......

[magnolia]

We didn't shave no pigs.....dipped them in boiling water and took a brush, it was easier then using Nair.....though I doubt many people want to remove their own hair by putting their legs or any body parts in scolding, boiling water for a minute or two.


I could have gone all night without reading that. :sad:

[sunstar]

I wonder what Casey's reaction would be if..just for the heck of it, LE was able to go to her and say something like "Well, we have found Zanny, along with her sister Sam and her mother Gloria" they claim to have had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance nor her death, and they have a solid alibi that checks out.

Oh I wish that could happen ~ I'd love to see her reaction! :biggrin: MOO

[PROPROS]

I wonder what Casey's reaction would be if..just for the heck of it, LE was able to go to her and say something like "Well, we have found Zanny, along with her sister Sam and her mother Gloria" they claim to have had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance nor her death, and they have a solid alibi that checks out.LMAO...She would have said...not that Zanny,Sam and Gloria!!!:scared:

[MalloryCat]

This is not a closed in air tight structure. An open-ended upside down cardboard box on the ground is more closed in then that house.

You have no idea what this house actually is and how it's constructed. Not much to them.
Had a dead body been in that playhouse for a night, lets say two, it would have been so gross, YOU have no idea.

[Neffy]

Do you eat meat at all?

Why the barfing?

Trust me, this is one of the least disgusting processes in the processing of food that most Americans eat. :)

Sorry, the one I consume is in a styrofoam tray wrapped in plastic with a price tag on it. That's all I need to know thank you very much. ;)

[happygert]

But not if it was an oft used item. Some people around here use their grills ALL the time when whether permits.

We use ours every Saturday rain, shine, ice or snow. But not any other time Saturday only. Even in summer time once a week. That would be perfect place around here to hide something as long as it wasn't Saturday.

[Duckaroo]

LMAO...She would have said...not that Zanny,Sam and Gloria!!!:scared:

you're probably right :cursing:

[nc1948]

I am prepared for the slamming for this:

I truly think the Anthony's are broken. I cant even imagine......there is no more hope.


I don't slam anyone for their opinion. I believe They knew from day 31 that Caylee was dead. But they have now realized that there is no hope to save Casey and that is what they have been trying to do since that same day 31.

[Neffy]

Had a dead body been in that playhouse for a night, lets say two, it would have been so gross, YOU have no idea.

Obviously YOU have no idea. Your house has a plastic floor and is air tight :tonguewag:

I never gave a time frame either.

[Barbara fl.]

I don't slam anyone for their opinion. I believe They knew from day 31 that Caylee was dead. But they have now realized that there is no hope to save Casey and that is what they have been trying to do since that same day 31.



I'm 100% with you......they knew and their actions showed it....

[Amy]

Ok, but if you can lift air samples out of a trunk that aired out in the Anthony garage, I am pretty sure the smell would permeate the interior of the playhouse, the dogs never hit in the playhouse, you think if they did it would still be in that backyard and not in LE custody?

It's an open container, quite unlike a closed trunk. It had plenty of time to "air out" so to speak.

[bama__angel]

Had a dead body been in that playhouse for a night, lets say two, it would have been so gross, YOU have no idea.


ITA.............Unless Casey had already double bagged little Caylee......(that made me so sick to just type those words). However, even with double bagging and duct tape, in the Florida heat and humidity in June, it's even rough going after only 2 days.

[magnolia]

I read your post about the hot water and I had forgotten about that! It was after that "bath" that they used a knife in much the same way your folks used a brush to "shave" the hog. The hot oil took care of the rest. Nummy num.

I wonder if Casey knows how humble her rinds are? (And her pig's,too!) :laugh:

Okay, going to eat my salad now. :sad:

[Amy]

I wonder how they could do that on someone else's private property?

Perhaps they have the blessing of the owner of the property?

[Neffy]

impermeable plastic? you are saying that the plastic would not retain odors? Do you have a link?

Definatley not your tupperware container.

[Lavenia]

Okay, going to eat my salad now. :sad:

:lol: (Has a lot to do with my 95% vegetarianism, I'm sure)

[bama__angel]

Aren't we talking cadaver dogs here....air out to you and me is not the same to a dog trained to find such.......

What is the time frame that a Cadaver dog is no good to use in a case?

I don't know, just curious.....I'll have to try to find the answer if you don't know.....a week, a month, a year? Any idea?


I do know that cadaver dogs were used to search around the area of the farm/commune of Charles Manson and his followers and that has been over 40 years I think or close to it. That was this year.

[MalloryCat]

Obviously YOU have no idea. Your house has a plastic floor and is air tight :tonguewag:

I never gave a time frame either.

Look, I can admit I dont know about the playhouse, but I know about decomp and what it sticks too, so if you want to be catty and distracting, go ahead without me, i know enough to know had that body been in there for any long period of time, it would have been smelly and gross, and full of insect activity, and the house would be in custody along with the car, thats not how it went down.

Ciao.

[Neffy]

Aren't we talking cadaver dogs here....air out to you and me is not the same to a dog trained to find such.......

What is the time frame that a Cadaver dog is no good to use in a case?

I don't know, just curious.....I'll have to try to find the answer if you don't know.....a week, a month, a year? Any idea?


In all seriousness. I owned one and my honest opinion a cadaver dog would sooner hit on the ground the house was over then the house itself. Especially if it was not in there long. I honestly do not think she could have been kept in there over night. My theory is she was put in there for a short time. Right on the ground! Plenty of room around her in that house. It is not air tight. Swinging door that is not sealed along with open air windows. The wind goes right thru there and it is NOT air tight even if it has shutters.

[PuffDragon]

High regard??? I seem to recall Nancy tearing into Nejame and damaging a few of his body parts.

She did that, yes, but she also said that he was a lawyer who had the best interest of his client at heart. Paraphrased, of course, I don't remember exactly how she put it. I also thought she admired him when he tore right back at her, but that's just MO. I can try to find the transcript....... uh, tomorrow, when my eyes can focus again.

[Neffy]

It's cool.......but it isn't raised in plastic....and the meat fairy doesn't magically deliver it to the grocery store. LOL

Sorry I had to tease you after that smiley getting all sick.


heh heh Can't eat anything that has literally stared back at me. Will go with styrofoam raised beef grown by the meat fairy! More Palatable!

[PuffDragon]

Here's what Cindy said about the hair.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7324662&version=1&locale=EN-US

I'd forgotten that. She managed to completely 'forget' that the hair from the trunk had a decomp band on it, or that nobody said they found any other hairs in the car. Seems even worse to see her spouting off knowing what we know now.

[ConchGirl]

Decomp, does not travel threw plastic and insert itself in the soil, its not possible.

http://bestsmileys.com/notlistening/2.gif

[nc1948]

I wonder how they could do that on someone else's private property?

Maybe they have the owners permission/

[ConchGirl]

I'd forgotten that. She managed to completely 'forget' that the hair from the trunk had a decomp band on it, or that nobody said they found any other hairs in the car. Seems even worse to see her spouting off knowing what we know now.

This was posted earlier and it does make you wonder now that we know what we know. This is why people don't like Cindy IMO
http://www.wftv.com/video/17334271/index.html

[BANJO GRANNY]

:lol: (Has a lot to do with my 95% vegetarianism, I'm sure)
Oh man don't knock it unless you have had some hoghead cheese/ sousemeat yum yum:thumbsup:
J/K/ My grandpa use to make that stuff and eat it in front of me and i would sit there trying not to throw up yuck. Now I do like the crackiling and like to make crackling cornbread





:rose:For Baby Caylee
REST IN PEACE SWEETIE