View Full Version : Caylee Anthony - Dec 27/08 - Part 1
whitedove007
12-27-2008, 03:53 PM
Well Casey will now get hers. She lied so much......:cursing:
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 03:53 PM
talking about interesting, did you read the emails? some amazing stuff in those i tell ya.
Oh yes there is.
I heard the reporters say the area George was looking in to the woods was not where Caylee was found, but I have heard nothing about the day he took off walking from the house. That was early in the case. You have be curious now.
:unsure:
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 03:53 PM
If he'd dumped my dogs water and taken the bowl, I would have been the one doing the striking! LOL Interesting that he can only come on all tough to a woman who is sitting down, isn't it?Agree....Why take out his anger on the dog! LA has a bad temper. In fact..IMO, all The Anthony's have bad tempers. We have seen Lee (with the dog and the woman),tear up a sign and memorial...We have seen C&G with hammers,bats, and hoses. Cindy would have you believe that Casa Anthony was a peaceful place where every day and evening was "wonderful"!mo
Let's say I have first hand knowledge here. I would tell you about it but my 10 year old son I had at 39 when I had a 20 year old and a 7 year old, is close by. :wink:
ETA: But I would still consider the pregnancy a result of "sex" anyway. We weren't playing Parcheesi.
I call my 18 y/o a "little drip," and we weren't playing Parcheesi, either. :lol:
nc1948
12-27-2008, 03:54 PM
I'm not so sure I believe George on this one. He remembered far too much about that day.....a month later. Down to the very shoes both Casey and Caylee were wearing. I've stated on here many times, can you remember what your daughter was wearing a month ago from today?
I cannot remember what my Grandson was wearing yesterday when he was at my house. What bothers me as much as details about attire is his I was watching the NE----and Cindy who was not home interrupts him to say he was watching cooking show. Huh. Th man can go into extreme detail about what both were wearing but does not know what he was watching on tv. I think that was when I really saw that Cindy was in charge, Cindy was telling everyone what to say, Cindy seems to know an awful lot.
sunstar
12-27-2008, 03:54 PM
Yes, they had time to discuss a date before LE even arrived. But remember Casey was claiming she hadn't seen Caylee in 30 (or 31?) days. That was on July 15 so 30 days prior would be June 15 Father's Day. That part was true. I'm guessing Cindy didn't want anyone to know about the big fight on Father's Day night so they moved it back a week???
That's the only explanation I've ever been able to come up with. MOO
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 03:55 PM
I wish the dog would have snarled at him...he probably would have took off running for the house. :biggrin:
Probably. :biggrin:
In an interview, I believe on NG show, Mr. Grund stated he went on casey's MySpace (which I found kind of weird), and noted she was chatting with, and/or about some other guy. He said it was obvious she was cheating on Jesse. My guess is Mr. Grund was the one who pushed for the paternity test.
In one of Jesse's interviews he did say he had the paternity test done after discussions with his family. He also said in one of the interviews, he knew he wasn't Caylee's dad, because she was full term, and couldn't have been if he was the father. I don't know if he realized that on his own, or if that was part of the discussion w/his family, too.
need2no
12-27-2008, 03:56 PM
Disney is losing it with all that shaking it would be easy for a small child to lose their balance, no wonder the lawsuits at Disney have doubled.
In the Enquirer article Kiomarie states Caylee tried to crawl up in casey's lap saying no moma no, but was unable to because she was strapped in the seat.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 03:59 PM
In the Enquirer article Kiomarie states Caylee tried to crawl up in casey's lap saying no moma no, but was unable to because she was strapped in the seat.
Where did Casey get the money to go to places like this? Aren't they expensive? Considering she wasn't working.
Anakerie
12-27-2008, 03:59 PM
Disney is losing it with all that shaking it would be easy for a small child to lose their balance, no wonder the lawsuits at Disney have doubled.
That ride isn't at Disney... It's at Universal, isn't it?
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:00 PM
IIRC someone said there were boots in the backseat of her car too, but I never heard if they were her party go-go boots or hiking type? Anyone?
Hopefully whatever the shoes are they have a story to tell. Like dirt, leaves with a scrub the lab can test in a way that will go around the chemicals.
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 04:01 PM
http://www.primewriter.com/blog/?cat=209
snipped
NANCY GRACE: Dr. Lee, are you telling me that you are working on the case pro bono, for free?
LEE: Yes."
Did not read all thread so excuse me if this has been posted but Dr. lee doing case pro bono
I know this link is dated 9/9 but the invisible Todd Black is quoted. Casey Anthony Offered More Than $1M to Tell Story.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17432283/detail.html
snowflakes
12-27-2008, 04:02 PM
I don't believe for a minute that George told the GJ the absolute truth.
Duckaroo
12-27-2008, 04:02 PM
I cannot remember what my Grandson was wearing yesterday when he was at my house. What bothers me as much as details about attire is his I was watching the NE----and Cindy who was not home interrupts him to say he was watching cooking show. Huh. Th man can go into extreme detail about what both were wearing but does not know what he was watching on tv. I think that was when I really saw that Cindy was in charge, Cindy was telling everyone what to say, Cindy seems to know an awful lot.
It's things like this that make me believe they knew Caylee wasn't kidnapped..that she was probably already gone. if they believed for one second their precious granddaughter was with real kidnappers and still alive..then why on earth would they not flat out tell the exact truth, whether they could or couldn't remember things..just tell them the truth period, everything they knew..because time would be ticking to find that baby, they could be abusing her..she could be out there crying to go home, for Grandma, Grandpa..etc. There would be no reason to try and twist stories to fit together or cover up things ..they would have no reason to want to protect Casey or anyone at that point except Caylee and telling the truth would be the only way to do that, if they truly believed she was alive and with kidnappers.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:03 PM
That ride isn't at Disney... It's at Universal, isn't it?
I think that's right, well now I remember that they can't put a height restriction because it discriminates against small people.
need2no
12-27-2008, 04:04 PM
Where did Casey get the money to go to places like this? Aren't they expensive? Considering she wasn't working.
Good question. My teen son is in Fl now with a friend (for a AAU baseball competition).The family he is with told me a one day pass is $80.
sunstar
12-27-2008, 04:05 PM
I watched the NG show last night and I noticed when LE asked her if she knew the name of Zanny's mother, she paused and had to think about it before she came up with Gloria.
I caught that too ~ the actress almost forgot her script. MOO
I hope you feel better soon!
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 04:05 PM
I don't believe for a minute that George told the GJ the absolute truth.
I'm with you.
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 04:05 PM
Yes, I remember. Don't have an answer, but that's an interesting thought.
IIRC it was near the KidFinders tent. Not where she was found. JMO
BANJO GRANNY
12-27-2008, 04:05 PM
Jose probably had to clean up a little bit after that.
Yeah more than likely had to change his drawers:lol: Cause like his girl Casey he they were full of chit
:rose:For Baby Caylee
REST IN PEACE SWEETIE
nc1948
12-27-2008, 04:08 PM
Our memories tend to get jumbled up over time so I could be mistaken, but I thought I heard it from the sheriff before I heard JB say it. I could be wrong and I'm in no shape today to go looking things up! Sorry.
Memories jumbled. From this very detailed and exacting case. I just don't understand why you have a problem, now what was your name again.
I have finally figured out that there are only four things I am sure about in this case.
Caylee is dead.
Casey did it
The house of Anthony lies.
The fourth , I forgot.
sunstar
12-27-2008, 04:09 PM
I cannot remember what my Grandson was wearing yesterday when he was at my house. What bothers me as much as details about attire is his I was watching the NE----and Cindy who was not home interrupts him to say he was watching cooking show. Huh. Th man can go into extreme detail about what both were wearing but does not know what he was watching on tv. I think that was when I really saw that Cindy was in charge, Cindy was telling everyone what to say, Cindy seems to know an awful lot.
Another thing as I remember he started to say he was watching the news then she interrupted him with the cooking show. That was my first clue the story was "off". MOO
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 04:09 PM
Let's see she stole from her mother, grand mother, friends, and i'm sure she even stole from lee and george when they had money...........casey and her lies could have went to jail years ago but for some reason they were all sheltering her or scared of her. MOO
Just shows the stealing had to be going on for a very long time and they thought she worked? Yeah right.
imo
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 04:10 PM
Oh I love him too. He seemed like a nice man. I wonder if the dog ever got any new water?
I saw them interview him after the remains were found and he had tears in his eyes.I'm sure one of the neighbors would have given the dog water...he did bring the sign back. That was a nasty gesture on LA part...Leave the animals out of it!!:mad:
nc1948
12-27-2008, 04:11 PM
Yes, and both places are very expensive. Families really can't afford to take their little children anymore. Sad as it is. Far from what Walt Disney had in mind.
But Casey always got whatever she wanted. Even if it meant stealing.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 04:12 PM
Good question. My teen son is in Fl now with a friend (for a AAU baseball competition).The family he is with told me a one day pass is $80.
I figured it was something like that. Here we have Paramount Kings Island it is around $50 or $60 for a day pass. Like I said in my other post she had to be stealing for a long time.
imo
Mamie
12-27-2008, 04:12 PM
Or not. :shrug:
But the thing the amusement park didn't consider was the emotional scar this ride could leave on a 2 year old. I'm sure she has been scared by different things before and her mother should have known and taken that into consideration but because her mother enjoys taunting, she took her on it anyway. Still, the park should look at all aspects and put a minimum age requirement in place. JMO
Anakerie
12-27-2008, 04:12 PM
Let's see she stole from her mother, grand mother, friends, and i'm sure she even stole from lee and george when they had money...........casey and her lies could have went to jail years ago but for some reason they were all sheltering her or scared of her. MOO
I just remembered one more person that Casey stole money from.
Her own daughter when she robbed the piggy bank.:cursing:
AJandTam
12-27-2008, 04:13 PM
Lee's lawyer should perhaps say "no comment" til he reads up on the case. He says none of the A's have been called as witnesses, which I guess, TECHNICALLY is correct, seeing as how the trial hasn't started yet. BUT, all 3 are on the prosecutions' witness list!!!! HINT to mr lawyer--start going thru even the news coverage of this case, you will learn A LOT.
He also says that Lee has done nothing wrong. Then, he says, well he may be charged with obstruction or aiding and abetting, like Mr lawyer has not clue that these activities are "something wrong" else the DA wouldn't be contemplating charges. :shrug:
Exactly, He knows something is going on, otherwise, you don't mention it until it happens. Then worry about it...
nc1948
12-27-2008, 04:13 PM
If she's guilty, she can't accept a penny. From what another posted said earlier is that the defense team cannot profit through books or movies either in that case.
But, Cindy. George and Lee can without any restrictions.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 04:13 PM
I'm sure one of the neighbors would have given the dog water...he did bring the sign back. That was a nasty gesture on LA part...Leave the animals out of it!!:mad:
Tells me a lot about a person who would pick on a defenseless animal.
imo
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:14 PM
I don't mean to find fault with LE, but I just don't understand why they didn't get a lot of things in the first search. Though the remains had not been found yet so maybe they didn't know what they were looking for. Maybe Lenny is right, maybe there was a bathing suit in the bag and LE couldn't find one in the home. The little blue Crocs have always haunted me for some reason. It's been 12 hours since last dose of cold meds, think I can take a hit now. I'll be back later.
The judge probably didn't see cause for a full search yet or something like that the forth amendment is tricky . I don't remember a lot about criminal law because I hated it, but to get a full house search LE has to have really strong probably cause. Hope you feel better I feel so bad.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 04:15 PM
But, Cindy. George and Lee can without any restrictions.
Can they if they are charged with something?
Lenny said Baez made him sign a contract giving up all movie and book deals. Wonder who else he did it to?
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 04:15 PM
I just remembered one more person that Casey stole money from.
Her own daughter when she robbed the piggy bank.:cursing:
Which comes as no surprise at all. I know of one of those 'mothers' who used her child's gift cards for his B-day to buy herself clothes. How low and despicable can you get? Stealing from children. Running off with Salvation Army buckets can't be far behind.
need2no
12-27-2008, 04:16 PM
I'm sure one of the neighbors would have given the dog water...he did bring the sign back. That was a nasty gesture on LA part...Leave the animals out of it!!:mad:
To me it speaks to the character of Lee, or should I say lack of character...to take the innocent dog's bowl of water on a hot Fl day.
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 04:18 PM
i just have one thing to say about this picture beyond the BLATANT DISRESPECT for precious caylee and heree it is..........barfbarf little witch thought she had everyone fooled!I think this picture says alot about Casey and Lee. I got the chills listening to LA laughing about the smell in the car. IMO, the way he treated the protesters, the laughing, and this photo, make me think that LA is not that different than Casey.mo
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 04:20 PM
To me it speaks to the character of Lee, or should I say lack of character...to take the innocent dog's bowl of water on a hot Fl day.
And there was no need for that at all. He took her sign and told her to move, which he had no right to do, but depriving the dog of water served no purpose. I was hoping the ASPCA would call him out on that. Put him on a ten most wanted list or something. :biggrin:
need2no
12-27-2008, 04:20 PM
But, Cindy. George and Lee can without any restrictions.
They will probably claim a portion of the profits from the book will go toward some missing children's organization to put a nice spin on it.
AJandTam
12-27-2008, 04:21 PM
To me it speaks to the character of Lee, or should I say lack of character...to take the innocent dog's bowl of water on a hot Fl day.
That is true Need.
sunstar
12-27-2008, 04:21 PM
Tells me a lot about a person who would pick on a defenseless animal.
imo
Defenseless animal or innocent child ~ it seems to run in the family. :angry: MOO
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 04:21 PM
I think this picture says alot about Casey and Lee. I got the chills listening to LA laughing about the smell in the car. IMO, the way he treated the protesters, the laughing, and this photo, make me think that LA is not that different than Casey.mo
Two of the four peas in the Anthony pod.
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 04:21 PM
I thought this was pretty impressive.I was very surprised at this.
From an interview with an ex-member that was there that week, they drove to all of the areas LE had already searched. So they have video of each area I would assume, they were much more focused that day on an area behind the school.
From Gale's mouth on Aug 13th, her team cleared that area.
After remains discovery Gale stated on Geraldo that she knew Caylee was there.
From all the facts, I believe the dog that got sick in the car is the best psychic of the bunch.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:21 PM
But the thing the amusement park didn't consider was the emotional scar this ride could leave on a 2 year old. I'm sure she has been scared by different things before and her mother should have known and taken that into consideration but because her mother enjoys taunting, she took her on it anyway. Still, the park should look at all aspects and put a minimum age requirement in place. JMO
They kind of leave that up to the adult. I'm sure there were some dirty looks going on on that ride. They should do a minimum age because people don't know how the ride is unless they have been on it.
AJandTam
12-27-2008, 04:23 PM
I think this picture says alot about Casey and Lee. I got the chills listening to LA laughing about the smell in the car. IMO, the way he treated the protesters, the laughing, and this photo, make me think that LA is not that different than Casey.mo
If this is him in front of people. What is he like behind closed doors? That is my worry...
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 04:23 PM
Let's see she stole from her mother, grand mother, friends, and i'm sure she even stole from lee and george when they had money...........casey and her lies could have went to jail years ago but for some reason they were all sheltering her or scared of her. MOOIIRC, LA stated that she did steal from him. Also, lets not forget...GA told FBI that Casey stole money from Caylee. She wiped out both her bank account (that GA set up) and her piggy bank.mo
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 04:23 PM
If she's guilty, she can't accept a penny. From what another posted said earlier is that the defense team cannot profit through books or movies either in that case.
Scott Peterson was convicted on 11/12/2004 and the penalty phase ended on 12/13/2004. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson
The movie "The Perfect Husband" was released on 10/26/2004 in Hungary.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385940/
Hmm lawyers always find a way around those pesky laws. MOO
need2no
12-27-2008, 04:23 PM
I think this picture says alot about Casey and Lee. I got the chills listening to LA laughing about the smell in the car. IMO, the way he treated the protesters, the laughing, and this photo, make me think that LA is not that different than Casey.mo
2 peas in a pod from the same gene pool.
I mean seriously...what are the odds Lee could have walked away from the A's home unscathed.
AJandTam
12-27-2008, 04:25 PM
Two of the four peas in the Anthony pod.
:thumbsup: hi ya true
islandgirl36542
12-27-2008, 04:27 PM
Defenseless animal or innocent child ~ it seems to run in the family. :angry: MOO
"High-Five" there sunstar!
Justice for Caylee....:rose:
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 04:28 PM
I know this link is dated 9/9 but the invisible Todd Black is quoted. Casey Anthony Offered More Than $1M to Tell Story.
http://www.wesh.com/news/17432283/detail.html
"I can tell you just for interview areas alone they can range from $50,000 to $350,000. We've even had an offer come from an overseas company that specializes in pay per view and those offers can exceed $1 million," Jose Baez Law Firm spokesman Todd Black said.
I keep saying I am finding all these little strings connecting LP to this whole mess(defense team & media connection). As soon as I read that article, I remembered LP talking about doing his lie detector on a pay per view channel.
Call me crazy, but I find that interesting.
nc1948
12-27-2008, 04:29 PM
Interesting, maybe LE will come to their senses and find something to charge them with so they can't profit!
I can only hope. But if they are charged with a misdemeanor(sp?) does that keep them from profiting??? I believe they will find a way to make money off of this. They already have.
My memory is not what is used to be- I have CRS- but do believe they set up the Helpfindcaylee web site immediately after the 30 days and asked for donations, and selling t-shirts and arm bands (then asked for donations of t-shirts so they would have more to sell) Instead of trying to find ways to make money off my misplaced Grandchild, I would be out looking for her.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 04:31 PM
They kind of leave that up to the adult. I'm sure there were some dirty looks going on on that ride. They should do a minimum age because people don't know how the ride is unless they have been on it.
Gee, when we were little and went to Disneyland, (there was no Universal or Disney World then, just dinosaurs and Disneyland) my Mom wouldn't even let my 5 year old sister go on the Tea Cups because she thought it would make her sick. The way my Dad drove it, it probably would have. I must have had really repressed parents!
kaelieanne
12-27-2008, 04:32 PM
No, I don't think we have and I'm waiting with bated breath to see it!
Why would they release all the interviews except Lee's? :wink:
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 04:33 PM
I can only hope. But if they are charged with a misdemeanor(sp?) does that keep them from profiting??? I believe they will find a way to make money off of this. They already have.
My memory is not what is used to be- I have CRS- but do believe they set up the Helpfindcaylee web site immediately after the 30 days and asked for donations, and selling t-shirts and arm bands (then asked for donations of t-shirts so they would have more to sell) Instead of trying to find ways to make money off my misplaced Grandchild, I would be out looking for her.
Exactly. Just shows where their priorities are.
Anakerie
12-27-2008, 04:35 PM
Isn't Universal owned by Disney?
I don't think so... Universal is owned by the movie studio of the same name, I believe and Disney is... Well Disney is Disney... lol
I googled and couldn't find any mention of Disney owning Universal.
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 04:36 PM
Does it say who profited from the movie? Did Scott Peterson?
My guess is Geragos. :confused:
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:37 PM
"I can tell you just for interview areas alone they can range from $50,000 to $350,000. We've even had an offer come from an overseas company that specializes in pay per view and those offers can exceed $1 million," Jose Baez Law Firm spokesman Todd Black said.
I keep saying I am finding all these little strings connecting LP to this whole mess(defense team & media connection). As soon as I read that article, I remembered LP talking about doing his lie detector on a pay per view channel.
Call me crazy, but I find that interesting.
How can they even be thinking about movie or book deals when they haven't even buried their granddaughter? It may be me but I would be dealing with whatever is stopping their granddaughter from being buried (Mr. Baez). and getting closure.
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 04:38 PM
Two of the four peas in the Anthony pod.I'm having a hard time explaining this...they all seem to be missing an "appropriate behavior" chip. They do things over and over again,that make them look bad to the general public. I believe that MN tried to advise them of this and so did CA mother. If the Anthonys are disliked, it is because they brought it on themselves.mo
Neffy
12-27-2008, 04:38 PM
Good question. My teen son is in Fl now with a friend (for a AAU baseball competition).The family he is with told me a one day pass is $80.
I have relatives in Florida and Floridians either get a discount rate or free passes. This was 10 years ago when I was there and they had free passes by showing their drivers licences and we got in under a guest admission which was like 50% off. I can't say this apply's now but thought I'd mention it. They lived in Largo.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:39 PM
Gee, when we were little and went to Disneyland, (there was no Universal or Disney World then, just dinosaurs and Disneyland) my Mom wouldn't even let my 5 year old sister go on the Tea Cups because she thought it would make her sick. The way my Dad drove it, it probably would have. I must have had really repressed parents!
No smart parents just looking at that ride gives me whip-lash.
kaelieanne
12-27-2008, 04:39 PM
I'm appalled that the place where this ride is that they'd even let a two year old on the ride----I don't care if she is with her mother, I don't think their insurance would allow it! JMO
I very much doubt the "ride story" is true. Amusement parks have a height requirement for safety reasons, and Caylee was not tall for her age. (From what I could tell.)
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:40 PM
I don't think so... Universal is owned by the movie studio of the same name, I believe and Disney is... Well Disney is Disney... lol
I googled and couldn't find any mention of Disney owning Universal.
They are still two peas in a pod.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 04:40 PM
I'm having a hard time explaining this...they all seem to be missing an "appropriate behavior" chip. They do things over and over again,that make them look bad to the general public. I believe that MN tried to advise them of this and so did CA mother. If the Anthonys are disliked, it is because they brought it on themselves.mo
I agree completely.
sunstar
12-27-2008, 04:41 PM
"High-Five" there sunstar!
Justice for Caylee....:rose:
Amen! :rose:
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:42 PM
I very much doubt the "ride story" is true. Amusement parks have a height requirement for safety reasons, and Caylee was not tall for her age. (From what I could tell.)
No not this one I just got a post from LandsharkII. I think they can't have a height requirement because it discriminates against little people.
sunstar
12-27-2008, 04:43 PM
I'm having a hard time explaining this...they all seem to be missing an "appropriate behavior" chip. They do things over and over again,that make them look bad to the general public. I believe that MN tried to advise them of this and so did CA mother. If the Anthonys are disliked, it is because they brought it on themselves.mo
I agreee with you and especially about MN. He seems to be a decent person. MOO
need2no
12-27-2008, 04:44 PM
I very much doubt the "ride story" is true. Amusement parks have a height requirement for safety reasons, and Caylee was not tall for her age. (From what I could tell.)
I recall a text message from casey to Lee talking about how tall Caylee was.
Also-
RECOMMENDED-
Ultimate Adventurers, Adults, Teens & Pre-Teens
No Height Restrictions for this attraction
http://www.universalorlando.com/them...jaws-ride.html
kaelieanne
12-27-2008, 04:44 PM
If he'd dumped my dogs water and taken the bowl, I would have been the one doing the striking! LOL Interesting that he can only come on all tough to a woman who is sitting down, isn't it?
I agree. I don't think I'd want to pound him though; he's a big one. A big bully. :huh:
trich
12-27-2008, 04:45 PM
Scott Peterson was convicted on 11/12/2004 and the penalty phase ended on 12/13/2004. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Peterson
The movie "The Perfect Husband" was released on 10/26/2004 in Hungary.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385940/
Hmm lawyers always find a way around those pesky laws. MOO
I don't believe Scott benefitted in any way from that movie or anything once he was convicted.
Sharon Rocha sued and I think that she got any and all monies froze.
Also I think the laws may be different in different states.
hopefully someone can elaberate.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:46 PM
How come I used a Disney Park Hopper ticket to get in?
Disney has had a lot of C.E.O. changes. It wouldn't surprise me if they had to sell part of the park at one point or another. They are so powerful they have their own government.
kaelieanne
12-27-2008, 04:47 PM
He kept lying to the woman also. She would tell him no Lee they did not say that and he would go on and on. I thought she was a peaceful protester compared to what some of them have done.
She handled Lee very well. And it was very obvious that he was lying to her and she wasn't buying it.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:48 PM
Thats silly. little people are not in a protected class, so its not discrimination.
What you don't think they fall under disability law?
catdoc
12-27-2008, 04:49 PM
RANT ALERT!!
Those who are easily offended please skip and scroll NOW!
"Rest in Peace,Caylee" "Sleep well now sweet princess" "Caylee in the arms of Angels" "Caylee spending a joyous Christmas in God's arms"
Each of these type things cause me an inner flush of anger that lingers. A baby being eaten by maggots and vermin in a garbage bag is not a picture of rest or peace to me. Neither is a baby being de-fleshed and picked apart in a morgue. A 2 1/2 yr old in a cemetary covered with a million flowers is still obscene, especially when she was perfectly healthy 1 sec before the murder. I realize everyone means well and finds personal peace because of faith, how else can one deal with such an obcenity? But there can be no peace, no rest, no "dealing with it" while her killer is sleeping well, ordering snacks, keeping up to date on the latest magazines,getting hugs and gropes by her attorney, being treated like a celebrity by the defense and the jail and like a fragile flower by her family. Don't chastise me for my lack of faith, I do it myself. The only thing that will give me any peace is seeing her killer suffer and be held accountable, here, in THIS life. Caylee lost EVERYTHING. No 3rd bithday or any others. No Santa Claus, no joy, no peace. Her killer has lost nothing but a little liberty. She doesn't even have to face other prisoners (who she refered to as "jerks"). For those who find some measure of peace in platitudes, more power to you. Pray for me.
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 04:50 PM
How can they even be thinking about movie or book deals when they haven't even buried their granddaughter? It may be me but I would be dealing with whatever is stopping their granddaughter from being buried (Mr. Baez). and getting closure.
I think casey or someone close to her signed a deal a very long time ago. That article is from September,
it makes you wonder if Dr Lee is pro-bono and obviously some of the other experts aren't, will Dr Lee change his mind about working on this case.
Nejame resigned from the A's attorney soon after CA came out with the Garrison discovery of payments for interviews/photos. I have always wonder if NeJame found out something that made his claim that his clients weren't taking any money false. I have always thought it strange CA contacted NBC about Garrison's payment and NOT her lawyer, why wouldn't he take care of that type of thing.
There is money coming from somewhere, I just haven't figured it out, yet.
MalloryCat
12-27-2008, 04:52 PM
She handled Lee very well. And it was very obvious that he was lying to her and she wasn't buying it.
And who was she? A busybody putting her nose into someone elses business? I dont know about anyone else, but I wouldn't owe anyone like that anything ever, like who the heck does she think is?
need2no
12-27-2008, 04:52 PM
How come I used a Disney Park Hopper ticket to get in?
I seem to recall the last time we went to FL we bought a package deal (of tickets) which included Disney, Universal and Sea World. I suppose it's in FL's best interest from a tourism standpoint to keep you there as long as possible. It pays off for everybody, so it makes sense to me.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:52 PM
A toddler isn't disabled because she hasn't reached full height.
But little people have reached full height some at 2'8 up to just under 4ft. So they shouldn't be able to ride because of a height requirement?
Duckaroo
12-27-2008, 04:53 PM
If there is no age restriction, then it must have been safe for her to go on the ride.
Sorry..I'm not completely up on the whole ride story, but was it the Jaws ride specifically the story was about? Because if it was I know kids are or at least were able to ride it.
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 04:53 PM
and he also mentioned that he had a 200 G offer for the January dive in Blanchard park.
I wonder if he had to give back the $50,000 that he said he took, what was that one for? I recall he was going to have a memorial for Caylee in December.
I do...they may not be getting "paid" by Casy but they will have the right to write books ect. after the trial. They will be able to make more money then if Casey actually paid them.imho
I believe that is why people like Linda Baden, Kobolinski (sp) always seem to come out of the wood work when the cases are high profile like this one.....imho
According to someone in an article @ the beginning of this thread, they will NOT be able to do books and such, as that would be a violation of attorney/client privilege and could be sued. But, they would get on national tv as th's for various shows. People who do NOT follow the trials these folks have been involved in, have no clue whether or not this particular "expert" lost all his high profile cases or not. Or, what the medical expert or forensic expert did that was foolish or even illegal in some trial.
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 04:56 PM
How come I used a Disney Park Hopper ticket to get in?
To Universal??? Are you sure it was a Disney Hopper, could it have been a different card? I always had to buy seperate passes, even when I lived there. FL residents always got good deals from the parks, they have some real good ones going on right now as a matter of a fact.
need2no
12-27-2008, 04:56 PM
I think casey or someone close to her signed a deal a very long time ago. That article is from September,
it makes you wonder if Dr Lee is pro-bono and obviously some of the other experts aren't, will Dr Lee change his mind about working on this case.
Nejame resigned from the A's attorney soon after CA came out with the Garrison discovery of payments for interviews/photos. I have always wonder if NeJame found out something that made his claim that his clients weren't taking any money false. I have always thought it strange CA contacted NBC about Garrison's payment and NOT her lawyer, why wouldn't he take care of that type of thing.
There is money coming from somewhere, I just haven't figured it out, yet.
If you listen to the long phone interview one of the media outlets did with Nejame...it is very obvious he knows things regarding the A's that he isn't spilling right now, and there is more to the real reason he resigned than just the Garrison making some money. Maybe Cury can give us the link again. It's well worth a listen if you missed it.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 04:57 PM
And who was she? A busybody putting her nose into someone elses business? I dont know about anyone else, but I wouldn't owe anyone like that anything ever, like who the heck does she think is?
A person sitting in a chair on public property using her right to free speech.
She didn't say anything and she certainly didn't get up and attempt to menace anyone and certainly did nothing to have some hot headed know it all get in her face, hurl verbal abuse at her and take her things.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 04:57 PM
Sorry..I'm not completely up on the whole ride story, but was it the Jaws ride specifically the story was about? Because if it was I know kids are or at least were able to ride it.
The big shark and boat rocking scares me now imagine a 2 year old who may not understand fake.
Anakerie
12-27-2008, 04:57 PM
Disney has 4 different parks on their own property, they do not own the Universal parks which are located northeast of the Disney properties.
If a Disney "park hopper" ticket can give you admission to Universal, they may have a reciprocity agreement between the two companies. If someone uses a Disney pass to get into Universal, then Disney would have to pay Universal. If Universal has a similar pass that can be bought and you can use it to get into Disney, then Universal would pay Disney...
Who knows? This is just a guess on my part.
sunstar
12-27-2008, 04:58 PM
Fox News was just talking about possible obstruction or aiding & abetting after the fact charges against LA. :shrug:
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 04:58 PM
Completely off topic I know, But Casey wears extremely inexpensive shades and jewelry........
In my opinionThe sunglasses were stolen. Bought with a bad check from AH account. She doesn't even steal good high end stuff..she steals from Target. GA stated that "my daughter" likes to shop at Target with my wife's money. BTW, nothing wrong with Target...just saying.mo
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:00 PM
But little people have reached full height some at 2'8 up to just under 4ft. So they shouldn't be able to ride because of a height requirement?
The signs often say Children under a certain height. That would leave adults to make their own choice.
need2no
12-27-2008, 05:00 PM
Sorry..I'm not completely up on the whole ride story, but was it the Jaws ride specifically the story was about? Because if it was I know kids are or at least were able to ride it.
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=347102&page=11
read post #513
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:01 PM
There are some rides that won't allow larger people, because of safety requirements. Its a safety issue, not a discrimination issue.
Yes it's safety but many years ago they had a height requirement on a lot of rides the little people found this discriminatory, large people can control their weight but little can't control their height.
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 05:02 PM
I don't know what that was for but the 50 G figure comes out alot
1) 50 G for the bail
2) 50 G if Casey tells him where Caylee is before the indictment
3) 50 G for anyone that finds Caylee
4) 50 G that he raised for TES before the last search
5) 50 G advance on the January search
JMO
That sure is setting off my hinky meter.
I recall some statement about bringing in over $35,000 in donations for the last TES search and 500 bounty hunters.
kaelieanne
12-27-2008, 05:02 PM
I recall a text message from casey to Lee talking about how tall Caylee was.
Also-
RECOMMENDED-
Ultimate Adventurers, Adults, Teens & Pre-Teens
No Height Restrictions for this attraction
http://www.universalorlando.com/them...jaws-ride.html
I was wrong then. It just seems crazy to me that they wouldn't protect themselves from lawsuits.
Anyway, if I saw a young woman taking a two year old on a ride like that, I would complain to the staff and cause a ruckus. I'm not a confrontational person, but that is child abuse. MHO of course.
happygert
12-27-2008, 05:03 PM
I'm sure one of the neighbors would have given the dog water...he did bring the sign back. That was a nasty gesture on LA part...Leave the animals out of it!!:mad:
The little guy brought back the sign Lee didn't
sunstar
12-27-2008, 05:03 PM
The sunglasses were stolen. Bought with a bad check from AH account. She doesn't even steal good high end stuff..she steals from Target. GA stated that "my daughter" likes to shop at Target with my wife's money. BTW, nothing wrong with Target...just saying.mo
Well, she can get more with her stolen money there! :biggrin: MOO
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 05:03 PM
Sorry..I'm not completely up on the whole ride story, but was it the Jaws ride specifically the story was about? Because if it was I know kids are or at least were able to ride it.Yes it was the Jaws ride...I have been on it (here at US in LA). The shark comes out of the water,very close to the riders...It is way to scary for a 2 year old IMO. Then again, I went to Halloween Horror Nights (at Universal Studio City) this year and there were kids in strollers....Those kids were crying and terrified. Did the IMO stupid parents get dirty looks...you bet.mo
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:04 PM
The signs often say Children under a certain height. That would leave adults to make their own choice.
Well there was a case somewhere that is why it now says children but that wasn't the case years ago. I would look it up but I'm sick and don't feel like it but I will eventually.
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 05:04 PM
Have any of the news stations posted this motion???
12/24/2008 A EX PARTE MOTION TO APPOINT SPECIAL MASTER
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:05 PM
I was wrong then. It just seems crazy to me that they wouldn't protect themselves from lawsuits.
Anyway, if I saw a young woman taking a two year old on a ride like that, I would complain to the staff and cause a ruckus. I'm not a confrontational person, but that is child abuse. MHO of course.
Yes, but...Casey wanted to go and that's all you should care about.:rolleyes: Didn't you know that?
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:06 PM
Have any of the news stations posted this motion???
12/24/2008 A EX PARTE MOTION TO APPOINT SPECIAL MASTER
A special Master of what?
Duckaroo
12-27-2008, 05:06 PM
The big shark and boat rocking scares me now imagine a 2 year old who may not understand fake.
So it was the Jaws ride then? Cause I have been on it a few times..the boat goes through like a Jaws movie-set at some points the shark comes up out of the water and at the boat..I've seen small kids on it before while we were on it..they had basically the same reaction, jumping up onto the parents screaming. Some placed their kids more in the middle and not sitting near the sides where the shark comes up. I didn't take my son on it..he's older than Caylee, but I know he would have been scared and I knew that probably would have been the end of him trusting any rides period, even the ones that are fun for the smaller kids.
need2no
12-27-2008, 05:06 PM
A person sitting in a chair on public property using her right to free speech.
She didn't say anything and she certainly didn't get up and attempt to menace anyone and certainly did nothing to have some hot headed know it all get in her face, hurl verbal abuse at her and take her things.
:thumbup:
The law allows for peaceful protest. Everyone doesn't have to like or agree with what she did...but she most certainly was within legal right to do so, wasn't harming anyone, wasn't on the A's property, and Lee overstepped his bounds when he tried unsuccessfully to control her. IF she were merely there as a troublemaker I think we would have seen her back there the next day just to thumb her nose at Lee.
Luka: No improprieties with donated money
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8150793&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
"Mr. Anthony was going under the assumption she was kidnapped. He investigated that angle first and foremost."
:scared: This is from Lee's Attorney - Can we say Lee no longer assumes this?
This article also addresses the no book deal for the lawyers thing.
Now, Caylee is kidnapped, and Casey didn't report that @ first for 2 reasons--1)SHE was conducting her own investigation and 2) the kidnappers threatened not only Caylee, but also the A family, which I would assume includes Lee, especially once it is in the media that he is her brother.
Now, LEE decides, without any FEAR for his own safety (being threatened by the kidnappers and all) goes investigating on his own for the kidnappers. Come on, it would ONLY make sense to give whatever info and leads to LE or FBI who could SAFELY (@ least, without harm to the A family) follow up. Now, I wonder where he went? PR? Wonder if it was pretty local, fill the tank w/gas, make a pass down whatever the main drag in Orlando is, then go on about his business with a full tank of gas. Probably had to have some meals during his travels and whatnot. I do remember several weeks ago (last month?) where, when reporters ask the A's where Lee is, one says traveling for the investigation, the other says, working, he has to keep his job, or something to that effect.
PuffDragon
12-27-2008, 05:07 PM
Has anyone else had problems getting booted out of the boards and not being able to get back in?
I was about to throw a temper tantrum!
All afternoon, I just got back on and am holding my breath..............
trich
12-27-2008, 05:07 PM
The big shark and boat rocking scares me now imagine a 2 year old who may not understand fake.
I have always been under the impression that the height restriction was due to the fact that people could get hurt if they are not a certain height.
Just like they warn pregnant women or anyone with heart conditions
not to ride certain rides.
I think it is for public safety and also for Disney's protecction from law suits.
suzanne
12-27-2008, 05:08 PM
From an interview with an ex-member that was there that week, they drove to all of the areas LE had already searched. So they have video of each area I would assume, they were much more focused that day on an area behind the school.
From Gale's mouth on Aug 13th, her team cleared that area.
After remains discovery Gale stated on Geraldo that she knew Caylee was there.
From all the facts, I believe the dog that got sick in the car is the best psychic of the bunch.
I think it was the other lady Colleen?who said she felt strong there in that area.Not Gail right?I agree the dog that got sick in the car is probably the best psychic of the bunch too.LOL.
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 05:08 PM
A special Master of what?
We don't know, that is why I have been looking everyday to see if I can find the motion.
I think it is to have someone oversee the meter reader discovery, to see if there was LE problems.
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 05:08 PM
The little guy brought back the sign Lee didn'tYes, I know it was the nice neighbor that brought back the sign...LA threw it in the trash!mo
kaelieanne
12-27-2008, 05:08 PM
Some large people can't. but thats just my opinion, and really.. this has nothing at all to do with Caylee Anthony.
I respectfully disagree. The mentality of a mother who would take a two year old on a ride which would terrify her is what we're talking about here. Any mother who would do this to her child has a screw loose IMO and we are discussing Casey's mental issues.
kitty1182
12-27-2008, 05:09 PM
RANT ALERT!!
Those who are easily offended please skip and scroll NOW!
"Rest in Peace,Caylee" "Sleep well now sweet princess" "Caylee in the arms of Angels" "Caylee spending a joyous Christmas in God's arms"
Each of these type things cause me an inner flush of anger that lingers. A baby being eaten by maggots and vermin in a garbage bag is not a picture of rest or peace to me. Neither is a baby being de-fleshed and picked apart in a morgue. A 2 1/2 yr old in a cemetary covered with a million flowers is still obscene, especially when she was perfectly healthy 1 sec before the murder. I realize everyone means well and finds personal peace because of faith, how else can one deal with such an obcenity? But there can be no peace, no rest, no "dealing with it" while her killer is sleeping well, ordering snacks, keeping up to date on the latest magazines,getting hugs and gropes by her attorney, being treated like a celebrity by the defense and the jail and like a fragile flower by her family. Don't chastise me for my lack of faith, I do it myself. The only thing that will give me any peace is seeing her killer suffer and be held accountable, here, in THIS life. Caylee lost EVERYTHING. No 3rd bithday or any others. No Santa Claus, no joy, no peace. Her killer has lost nothing but a little liberty. She doesn't even have to face other prisoners (who she refered to as "jerks"). For those who find some measure of peace in platitudes, more power to you. Pray for me.
IMO, the moment she died, she went to be with her Father..She did not feel those things on her...She was at peace the second she left this cruel world..She will be at peace forever now...
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:10 PM
Well there was a case somewhere that is why it now says children but that wasn't the case years ago. I would look it up but I'm sick and don't feel like it but I will eventually.
I'm sure there was something of the sort to get it that way, I believe you. By the time Casey dragged Caylee on there, that kind of sign was around and I'd think there would be one on a ride like that.
kaelieanne
12-27-2008, 05:10 PM
Yes, but...Casey wanted to go and that's all you should care about.:rolleyes: Didn't you know that?
Yes, I did forget. :biggrin: Not being a sociopath, I tend to worry about my children and put myself on the back burner. As do most of us here.
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 05:10 PM
If you listen to the long phone interview one of the media outlets did with Nejame...it is very obvious he knows things regarding the A's that he isn't spilling right now, and there is more to the real reason he resigned than just the Garrison making some money. Maybe Cury can give us the link again. It's well worth a listen if you missed it.
http://www.wftv.com/video/18027694/index.html
happygert
12-27-2008, 05:11 PM
Yes, I know it was the nice neighbor that brought back the sign...LA threw it in the trash!mo
yes , what a jerk Lee is!
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 05:11 PM
I think it was the other lady Colleen?who said she felt strong there in that area.Not Gail right?I agree the dog that got sick in the car is probably the best psychic of the bunch too.LOL.
I would be a lot more impressed if the had been in an area that wasn't already searched and not so close to the home, and if Caylee was discovered at that far away area that nobody had looked at before.
PuffDragon
12-27-2008, 05:11 PM
Yes. It must've been some sort of glitch. I rebooted. At any rate it seems to be fixed now.
Not mine, I've been coming back to it periodically all afternoon, some of the time I managed to get onto the main board but got booted off., sometimes I couldn't even get that far. This time (5:00) it seems to be holding.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:12 PM
We don't know, that is why I have been looking everyday to see if I can find the motion.
I think it is to have someone oversee the meter reader discovery, to see if there was LE problems.
Thank you.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:12 PM
My disney expert jsut told me that the Jaws ride is very scary, but probably wouldn't qualify as abuse by letting your child ride on it. This is the opinion of someone who is impartial.
Well tell your Disney expert that the Jaws ride is at Universal, I think common sense would let you know this isn't appropriate for a 2 year old.
Neffy
12-27-2008, 05:13 PM
We don't know, that is why I have been looking everyday to see if I can find the motion.
I think it is to have someone oversee the meter reader discovery, to see if there was LE problems.
I just did a quick google search of what that would be and it looks pretty lenghty but here's some of the titles under it:
I.Introduction 579II. How Special Masters Can Serve Courts in Cases That Involve Scientific andTechnical Evidence 583
A. Reasons for Appointing Special Masters 583
B. Preliability-Stage Appointments 5841. Assisting in pretrial proceedings 584
http://www.fjc.gov/public/pdf.nsf/lookup/14.spec_mast.pdf/$File/14.spec_mast.pdf
The federal judicial system relies on generalist judges and lay juries to make
findings of fact and conclusions about liability.In the traditional model, thegeneralist judge is a neutral, passive judge who receives evidence and hears ar-
gument only from the parties, applies legal rules and principles, and awards vic-
tory to one side or the other. As a result of advances in science and technology,
the number of cases in which judges and juries must understand scientific and
technological issues to find facts responsibly has increased. Judges have sought
to meet the need for greater understanding of scientific and technological issues
in several ways, one of which is through the appointment of special masters
MalloryCat
12-27-2008, 05:14 PM
A person sitting in a chair on public property using her right to free speech.
She didn't say anything and she certainly didn't get up and attempt to menace anyone and certainly did nothing to have some hot headed know it all get in her face, hurl verbal abuse at her and take her things.
Yeah, her whole purpose to be there was to antagonize, thats all it was, and its horrible behavior, go donate time at an animal shelter, or something constructive, I mean I am never going to understand someone just standing outside someones house who are going through hell, I just dont find that entertaining, its actually quite creepy.
jmo
Neffy
12-27-2008, 05:15 PM
I don't know why that link won't work to be clickable I tried to edit it twice.
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 05:18 PM
http://www.wftv.com/video/18027694/index.html
Thanks, I wanted to see that again.
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 05:18 PM
The child was murdered. The disney ride is irrelevant in the entire scheme of things. There was no history of abuse prior to her death.I disagree....we do not in fact know if there was or was not an abuse history prior to her death. IMO, now that Casey has murdered her own child, nothing she may have done (in her alone time)with Caylee would surprise me!mo
MalloryCat
12-27-2008, 05:20 PM
Remember that lady who smashed her kids arm in the car door, and then just let him lay on the ground screaming in pain. Now... thats child abuse. imo
Yes, it was pretty horrible, to expose your children to that hate, and then on top of it, it took place around midnight, like jeez, get a life, put your kids to bed, those poor kids being exposed to that, sadly I fear those children will grow up and keep the hate going, and its not their fault, they grew up with it, obviously.
jmo
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 05:22 PM
I just did a quick google search of what that would be and it looks pretty lenghty but here's some of the titles under it:
I.Introduction 579II. How Special Masters Can Serve Courts in Cases That Involve Scientific andTechnical Evidence 583
A. Reasons for Appointing Special Masters 583
B. Preliability-Stage Appointments 5841. Assisting in pretrial proceedings 584
http://www.fjc.gov/public/pdf.nsf/lookup/14.spec_mast.pdf/$File/14.spec_mast.pdf
The federal judicial system relies on generalist judges and lay juries to make
findings of fact and conclusions about liability.In the traditional model, thegeneralist judge is a neutral, passive judge who receives evidence and hears ar-
gument only from the parties, applies legal rules and principles, and awards vic-
tory to one side or the other. As a result of advances in science and technology,
the number of cases in which judges and juries must understand scientific and
technological issues to find facts responsibly has increased. Judges have sought
to meet the need for greater understanding of scientific and technological issues
in several ways, one of which is through the appointment of special masters
Thanks, so someone overseaaing the discovery of Caylee would fit into that category?
Duckaroo
12-27-2008, 05:22 PM
Instead of sitting around in the house and coming out once in a while to confront these people or to tell strangers to get off their azzes and go search for their missing granddaughter, they could have done something constructive too..like go out there and help search. Perhaps then these people wouldn't have felt the need to sit outside the way they did..they might even have decided to get out there along side them and help them, then there would have been no one home most of the time to bother..and possibly no reason for anyone to feel the need to stand outside and protest.
JMO of course..
LOL, wow, well, thats great, truly a surprise!!
But I am sure Casey had sex and probably lots of it around the time Caylee was conceived, basically they need to test every guy working at Universal at that time.
jmo
That would certainly be unfair and unjust to every guy who had not even seen her, let alone met her. And, I don't suppose her social encounters were contained exclusively from the array of potential conquests @ Universal Studios. In fact, she NEVER worked for US. She worked a picture kiosk for Kodak. Whether is was on US grounds, or Disney, I wouldn't know.
Besides, WHO fathered Caylee isn't even a factor in her murder. She was murdered by her mother.
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 05:24 PM
Wow, it's been a really nice discussion today and nobody was antagonized. I hope it stays that way. MOO
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:25 PM
I have always been under the impression that the height restriction was due to the fact that people could get hurt if they are not a certain height.
Just like they warn pregnant women or anyone with heart conditions
not to ride certain rides.
I think it is for public safety and also for Disney's protecction from law suits.
A child wouldn't have the strength to hold themselves where a little teenager would. The fact is they no longer hold one to height on certain dangerous rides. Let's drop this back and forth and get back on topic.
neid_77
12-27-2008, 05:25 PM
:mad:ITA that's why I have been so bothered by the photo with the binder that says "Media Coverage". She thinks she is a celebrity. As Henry Lee would say "somting wong" :sneaky: IMO
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/Binder.jpg
i love this first of all she is walking around with sunglasses that she bought with amy's money!! no remorse there i'm just gonna keep walking around wearing these cuase they are mine! like qouted she reallythinks she is a celebarity doesn't she...she really thinks she top of the line...but in the end the only thing that makes her famous is how many people not only across the united states but around the world....just want to look at her and head to the toilet bowl!
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:27 PM
He didn't take his 2 year old on it. If we are going to talk common sense here, its common sense that Universal knows it isn't appropriate for a 2 year old.
Well it is rumored that Casey took Caylee on the Jaws ride that's what this post was about.
Neffy
12-27-2008, 05:27 PM
Thanks, so someone overseaaing the discovery of Caylee would fit into that category?
I have to admit I didn't read it (whoa what a doc) YET. But just gleening thru it my first thought was the body farm evidence? Casey's laptop? Something the average joe needs help to understand? I could be wrong but that's my first impression. Going to take a little sifting thru.
Sorry seems you have to cut and paste the url into your addy bar.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:28 PM
Yeah, her whole purpose to be there was to antagonize, thats all it was, and its horrible behavior, go donate time at an animal shelter, or something constructive, I mean I am never going to understand someone just standing outside someones house who are going through hell, I just dont find that entertaining, its actually quite creepy.
jmo
It isn't what I would do, but she wasn't breaking any laws and LA had no right to go after her. She has a right to free speech, I respect that.
Duckaroo
12-27-2008, 05:28 PM
I understand how you feel, but some people are of a belief that the Anthony's should have been free to use their home as they wished, since it is their home and all.
Well I guess that sorta goes the same for the public and public sidewalks/streets though, since they are public and all?
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 05:28 PM
Instead of sitting around in the house and coming out once in a while to confront these people or to tell strangers to get off their azzes and go search for their missing granddaughter, they could have done something constructive too..like go out there and help search. Perhaps then these people wouldn't have felt the need to sit outside the way they did..they might even have decided to get out there along side them and help them then, there would have been no one home most of the time to bother..and possibly no reason for anyone to feel the need to stand outside and protest.
JMO of course..ITA....The Anthony's gave as good as they got. They should have just ignored the crowds and perhaps they would have just gone away. In regards to the woman with the child (whos arm was slammed in the door) that whole fight was a result of her and Cindy almost coming to blows. I am not saying that woman was right....However, a grandparent of a missing child would do better to act accordingly and not add violence to an already tragic situation.mo
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:29 PM
Thanks, so someone overseaaing the discovery of Caylee would fit into that category?
I think it has to do with Casey not being able to go to the funeral of Caylee.
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 05:30 PM
Instead of sitting around in the house and coming out once in a while to confront these people or to tell strangers to get off their azzes and go search for their missing granddaughter, they could have done something constructive too..like go out there and help search. Perhaps then these people wouldn't have felt the need to sit outside the way they did..they might even have decided to get out there along side them and help them, then there would have been no one home most of the time to bother..and possibly no reason for anyone to feel the need to stand outside and protest.
JMO of course..
I would like to thank the protesters from the bottom of my heart. If it weren't for them we would never know that Casey knows how to dial 911. :patriot:
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:30 PM
:mad:
i love this first of all she is walking around with sunglasses that she bought with amy's money!! no remorse there i'm just gonna keep walking around wearing these cuase they are mine! like qouted she reallythinks she is a celebarity doesn't she...she really thinks she top of the line...but in the end the only thing that makes her famous is how many people not only across the united states but around the world....just want to look at her and head to the toilet bowl!
She'll just be one of the nameless, faceless, many in prison. Just another baby killer. That'll be a shock to her system.
PuffDragon
12-27-2008, 05:31 PM
You may want to restart that is what I had to do the other night.
That's what I had to do too. All the other times I just tried -unsuccessfully- to get back on. It was the reboot that finally did it.
Yep, the attorneys making statements about "immunity" and now this... What are they preparing the public for... Giving a defense before one is needed. The theme for lawyers is generally to keep your mouth shut... So why the attorney's not keeping thier mouth shut?
I guess, in a high profile case, one must be seen and heard? Altho I DO think "No comment" (Or maybe, I have no more questions, :lol:) would be appropriate. Maybe he sees all the others in front of the cameras for national exposure, and sure wants his share!!!!
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 05:31 PM
I think it has to do with Casey not being able to go to the funeral of Caylee.
Interesting, I never even thought about that.
Duckaroo
12-27-2008, 05:31 PM
:mad:
i love this first of all she is walking around with sunglasses that she bought with amy's money!! no remorse there i'm just gonna keep walking around wearing these cuase they are mine! like qouted she reallythinks she is a celebarity doesn't she...she really thinks she top of the line...but in the end the only thing that makes her famous is how many people not only across the united states but around the world....just want to look at her and head to the toilet bowl!
Seeing her carrying around the pic of Caylee too in that photo burns me..can't help but also notice her tops unbuttoned enough that I would imagine it would probably make for a nice cleavage peep show possibly when one is leaning forward discussing things with their attorney.
barf
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:32 PM
I just did a quick google search of what that would be and it looks pretty lenghty but here's some of the titles under it:
I.Introduction 579II. How Special Masters Can Serve Courts in Cases That Involve Scientific andTechnical Evidence 583
A. Reasons for Appointing Special Masters 583
B. Preliability-Stage Appointments 5841. Assisting in pretrial proceedings 584
http://www.fjc.gov/public/pdf.nsf/lookup/14.spec_mast.pdf/$File/14.spec_mast.pdf
The federal judicial system relies on generalist judges and lay juries to make
findings of fact and conclusions about liability.In the traditional model, thegeneralist judge is a neutral, passive judge who receives evidence and hears ar-
gument only from the parties, applies legal rules and principles, and awards vic-
tory to one side or the other. As a result of advances in science and technology,
the number of cases in which judges and juries must understand scientific and
technological issues to find facts responsibly has increased. Judges have sought
to meet the need for greater understanding of scientific and technological issues
in several ways, one of which is through the appointment of special masters
They used a special master to distribute the settlement funds from 911. It is used in high profile cases.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:33 PM
Interesting, I never even thought about that.
There are people who think it has to do with evidence and others who think it has to do with the A's so pick your choice.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 05:34 PM
I would like to thank the protesters from the bottom of my heart. If it weren't for them we would never know that Casey knows how to dial 911. :patriot:
OH yeah. We learned Casey Anthony, Mother of the year does know how to call 911.:tonguewag:
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:35 PM
Okay. Rumor meaning a National Enquirerer story.
Yes they have been involved all of a sudden. They have a timeline they probably have evidence that the prosecution doesn't have.
Neffy
12-27-2008, 05:35 PM
Thanks, so someone overseaaing the discovery of Caylee would fit into that category?
http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=EX+PARTE+MOTION+TO+APPOINT+SPECIAL+MASTER&fr=ybr_sbc&u=www.daubertontheweb.com/Special%2520Masters.htm&w=ex+parte+motion+motions+appoint+appointed+specia l+master+mastering+masters&d=Me8AWEfiR4Ok&icp=1&.intl=us
Here's another one I googled:
Special Masters and Court-Appointed Experts
Commentators are frequently very keen on the idea that district courts should employ court-appointed experts or special masters to assist in the resolution of complex scientific or technical issues.
At least it gives us an idea on where that's going.
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 05:35 PM
Interesting, I never even thought about that.
We need to get a local connection to get this stuff from the State, when they get it in, we still seen the updated witness list.
bama__angel
12-27-2008, 05:35 PM
Okay. Rumor meaning a National Enquirerer story.
Usually the National Enquirer has some truth in what they report lol.............kinda like Casey
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 05:36 PM
They used a special master to distribute the settlement funds from 911. It is used in high profile cases.
Could it be to make sure the MR does not get the reward money?
martha
12-27-2008, 05:36 PM
I see no beuty in casey. I just can;t stand to look at her picture. I guess some people think she is pretty but I sure don;t. I don;t think caylee looked a bit like casey caylee looked more like cindy. George thinks he is pretty too he acts like he thinks he is a lady man. Lee look like he thinks he is something special too. I just can;t have any feeling for any of them until trial and maybe some of the truth will come out. Casey only loves casey. she did not care about caylee. casey has no heart or she could not have hurt this pretty little girl that could not take up for her self. jmho
sunstar
12-27-2008, 05:37 PM
Seeing her carrying around the pic of Caylee too in that photo burns me..can't help but also notice her tops unbuttoned enough that I would imagine it would probably make for a nice cleavage peep show possibly when one is leaning forward discussing things with their attorney.
barf
Not to mention both the blouse and shorts are very tight. I'd never think of wearing that 'costume' to an attorney's office. MOO
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 05:38 PM
Fox35 live on case, talking about yesterday's article, that no one can profit if casey gets convicted.
Baez could make cash if Casey tosses him off case for non effective council. OR is she gets off. Only two ways he could make money on case.
Duckaroo
12-27-2008, 05:38 PM
OH yeah. We learned Casey Anthony, Mother of the year does know how to call 911.:tonguewag:
I was shocked she called 911..I mean I would have expected her to grab her slinkiest dress, her high-heeled boots and go out there and dance, you know do her own investigation..mingle with the crowd, maybe get the protestor's names, then maybe a month later she could hand them over to law enforcement.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:39 PM
I can't remember. Was Lee arrested for that incident?
No, the Anthonys were allowed to do a lot of things they shouldn't have during all of that, and yet they complained about LE constantly.
Neffy
12-27-2008, 05:39 PM
We need to get a local connection to get this stuff from the State, when they get it in, we still seen the updated witness list.
Sorry being lazy about scrolling back. Did you mention in your original post who was filing this?
This looks like it's calling into question the opinions of "experts"
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:40 PM
Could it be to make sure the MR does not get the reward money?
I can't even make a educated guess. The only reason we know this happened is because we saw it in the docket.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 05:40 PM
I was shocked she called 911..I mean I would have expected her to grab her slinkiest dress, her high-heeled boots and go out and there and dance, you know do her own investigation..mingle with the crowd, maybe get the protestor's names, then maybe a month later she could hand them over to law enforcement.
:thumbsup::laugh:
Remember how she didn't want to give the 911 operator her name? Then she told the operator this has got to stop. What a waste she is. She could have stopped it all at anytime.
Neffy
12-27-2008, 05:41 PM
Not to mention both the blouse and shorts are very tight. I'd never think of wearing that 'costume' to an attorney's office. MOO
Yea didn't want to be tacky but it does give me the impression a button's about to blow.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:41 PM
I was shocked she called 911..I mean I would have expected her to grab her slinkiest dress, her high-heeled boots and go out and there and dance, you know do her own investigation..mingle with the crowd, maybe get the protestor's names, then maybe a month later she could hand them over to law enforcement.
There were a lot of women out there. Casey doesn't communicate well with women, it seems. They've got breasts of their own, so cleavage won't distract or impress them.
MalloryCat
12-27-2008, 05:41 PM
That would certainly be unfair and unjust to every guy who had not even seen her, let alone met her. And, I don't suppose her social encounters were contained exclusively from the array of potential conquests @ Universal Studios. In fact, she NEVER worked for US. She worked a picture kiosk for Kodak. Whether is was on US grounds, or Disney, I wouldn't know.
Besides, WHO fathered Caylee isn't even a factor in her murder. She was murdered by her mother.
Oh Amy, are you directing this to everyone who ponders if Caylee is a product of incest? And, btw, there are rumors Caylees father was a security guy at Universal, I could seriously care less, as I am well aware it does not matter, and shouldnt even matter in this case, but thats just me.
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 05:41 PM
I was shocked she called 911..I mean I would have expected her to grab her slinkiest dress, her high-heeled boots and go out there and dance, you know do her own investigation..mingle with the crowd, maybe get the protestor's names, then maybe a month later she could hand them over to law enforcement.:thumbsup:If the truth be told that is probably exactly what she would do....mo
Duckaroo
12-27-2008, 05:42 PM
:thumbsup::laugh:
Remember how she didn't want to give the 911 operator her name? Then she told the operator this has got to stop. What a waste she is. She could have stopped it all at anytime.
A huge Amen to that!!
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 05:42 PM
Not to mention both the blouse and shorts are very tight. I'd never think of wearing that 'costume' to an attorney's office. MOO
http://bestsmileys.com/cool/5.gif
need2no
12-27-2008, 05:42 PM
I would like to thank the protesters from the bottom of my heart. If it weren't for them we would never know that Casey knows how to dial 911. :patriot:
:biggrin: It just goes to show something good can be found in every situation.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:42 PM
:thumbsup::laugh:
Remember how she didn't want to give the 911 operator her name? Then she told the operator this has got to stop. What a waste she is. She could have stopped it all at anytime.
She seemed to expect them to know who she was. Like she had her own private red line.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:44 PM
Usually the National Enquirer has some truth in what they report lol.............kinda like Casey
They can buy information but I think they should keep their paper out of an ongoing investigation.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 05:45 PM
Oh Amy, are you directing this to everyone who ponders if Caylee is a product of incest? And, btw, there are rumors Caylees father was a security guy at Universal, I could seriously care less, as I am well aware it does not matter, and shouldnt even matter in this case, but thats just me.
I don't really care either. I am sure LE probably knows or has an idea. Speaking of which, did you all notice on Mark Hawkins myspace it says children, someday and then the song playing is about a daddy and his little girl.
I thought he had kids with Tara?
WhiteShark
12-27-2008, 05:45 PM
Mimi...........
I hope all is well............
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:47 PM
One company owns all 3 of the tabloids, most of the storys had been in the Globe. I wonder why they now switched to using the NE.
JMO
I guess the NE is ready to go under because not as many people are buying papers. Maybe it's one more try before they get the ax. IMO
steffaroob4
12-27-2008, 05:47 PM
Sorry being lazy about scrolling back. Did you mention in your original post who was filing this?
This looks like it's calling into question the opinions of "experts"
It didn't say, I am assuming it is Baez, since he has a previous similar motion to get someone to oversee evidence.
need2no
12-27-2008, 05:49 PM
:thumbsup::laugh:
Remember how she didn't want to give the 911 operator her name? Then she told the operator this has got to stop. What a waste she is. She could have stopped it all at anytime.
Reminds me of Baez's latest comments in regard to LE/CSI going back to the A home for the 3rd time after Caylee was found. Baez made some snarky remark to the affect of after LE hit them in the stomach, then they went even further by going back to their home to take more stuff.
Jose, Jose, Jose....LE didn't hit Cindy and George in the stomach....casey did, when she murdered their precious granddaughter...put the blame on the murderer, not LE.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:49 PM
I wonder if the little boy with a smashed arm feels that way too.
Social services checked on him the next day and he was fine. It wasn't a daily event in his life. Kids usually get over things like that pretty quickly.
bama__angel
12-27-2008, 05:49 PM
Oh Amy, are you directing this to everyone who ponders if Caylee is a product of incest? And, btw, there are rumors Caylees father was a security guy at Universal, I could seriously care less, as I am well aware it does not matter, and shouldnt even matter in this case, but thats just me.
Personally, I scroll by the posts about the incest.............Caylee was a beautiful beautiful little girl...............There's so much ugliness and horror anyway....Her father wasnt in her life, probably by his choice or because he didnt know or Casey didnt know who Caylee's father was and just didnt care............The person who is responsible for Caylee's death is sitting in jail charged with murder.......There is nothing that Caylee's father could do for her now..........
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 05:50 PM
She seemed to expect them to know who she was. Like she had her own private red line.
Or she didn't want them to know it was her calling.
Neffy
12-27-2008, 05:51 PM
It didn't say, I am assuming it is Baez, since he has a previous similar motion to get someone to oversee evidence.
That's what I was thinking but check out this paragraph:
Rule 706 is also sometimes invoked in the appointment of experts to serve as nontestimonial technical advisors to the court -- although some authority holds that Rule 706 is inapplicable to such appointments. Counsel, in any event, should be wary of orders assigning Rule 706 experts to duties that may shade imperceptibly into the role of a magistrate or special master. The dangers here are legion, but two deserve specific discussion. First, to appointees who are themselves practicing scientists, the standards of review for Daubert and Rule 56 motions may seem inscrutable and artificial, and if such appointees are asked to recommend dispositions on such motions, they may feel inclined, by training and temperament, to determine which side has the better of the factual dispute on the scientific merits. That may be fine with litigants who expect the appointee to take their side, but it represents a potential encroachment on the jury's function.
Don't mean to send anybody on a wild goose chase just things I'm picking out of a special masters motion
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 05:51 PM
She seemed to expect them to know who she was. Like she had her own private red line.
I think it's a huge red flag for the defense. IMO http://bestsmileys.com/waving/1.gif
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:52 PM
Or she didn't want them to know it was her calling.
It's not like they couldn't figure it out when she told them where she was and that her parents were outside. Of course, thinking isn't Casey's strong point, I believe.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 05:52 PM
Reminds me of Baez's latest comments in regard to LE/CSI going back to the A home for the 3rd time after Caylee was found. Baez made some snarky remark to the affect of after LE hit them in the stomach, then they went even further by going back to their home to take more stuff.
Jose, Jose, Jose....LE didn't hit Cindy and George in the stomach....casey did, when she murdered their precious granddaughter...put the blame on the murderer, not LE.
I have said it before. Jose is making some powerful enemies. I hope he thinks Casey is worth it. PUKE
Isn't it amazing how both Casey,and Cindy & George(through private investigators they supposedly hired) have been doing their own investigations and now Lee has too.
None of which has been able to prove anything about anybody else .....when are they going to admit that Casey did it?
The A's had the KFN PI, Dominic Casey @ their disposal. He didn't impress me all that much, either. Don't know if they had another PI, don't suppose they would. The KFN guy comes w/the package, they would have had to have paid any other one. I'm wondering how much PI'ng was actually going on--there was rare mention of him, and even less mention of what he might have found. (Unless he was the one always @ least one step behind the kidnappers all 9 times Caylee was moved.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:54 PM
Reminds me of Baez's latest comments in regard to LE/CSI going back to the A home for the 3rd time after Caylee was found. Baez made some snarky remark to the affect of after LE hit them in the stomach, then they went even further by going back to their home to take more stuff.
Jose, Jose, Jose....LE didn't hit Cindy and George in the stomach....casey did, when she murdered their precious granddaughter...put the blame on the murderer, not LE.
I wonder about Baez what is his angle? Does he expect the prosecution to do a bad job? They had to go backwards in this case, because of his clients lies. They had to skate around evidence because of his clients lies. Mr. Baez your client is a liar.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 05:54 PM
It's not like they couldn't figure it out when she told them where she was and that her parents were outside. Of course, thinking isn't Casey's strong point, I believe.
I know but they ask her several times who she was and she would not say. I don't know if she ever did.
need2no
12-27-2008, 05:55 PM
I wonder if the little boy with a smashed arm feels that way too.
I never said the whole protester fiasco was good...just that something good did come out of it.
I'd get banned from the board if I told you what I thought about the family with the little boy.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 05:55 PM
Wow.. I always thought that Social Services investigations were confidential. Do you remember where you read that?
It was one of the local Orlando media outlets. It was stated after the incident that Child Services were going to check on the situation. Then there was a report the next day saying he'd been checked on and was fine. Sorry, I don't remember which one.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:56 PM
Personally, I scroll by the posts about the incest.............Caylee was a beautiful beautiful little girl...............There's so much ugliness and horror anyway....Her father wasnt in her life, probably by his choice or because he didnt know or Casey didnt know who Caylee's father was and just didnt care............The person who is responsible for Caylee's death is sitting in jail charged with murder.......There is nothing that Caylee's father could do for her now..........
Yes scroll past all the rumors of incest, cw doesn't like it and asked everyone to please drop the subject.
~jomomma~
12-27-2008, 05:56 PM
OH yeah. We learned Casey Anthony, Mother of the year does know how to call 911.:tonguewag:
and remember, the next day was when Jose came to pick her up all in a huff. didn't even hold the door open for her :wink:
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 05:57 PM
I have said it before. Jose is making some powerful enemies. I hope he thinks Casey is worth it. PUKEITA....He is going to be working with OCSD for many years to come,if he stays in practice.....Does he believe that LE,CSI, and The State of Florida is going to forget his actions and words revolving around this case. Once again, like The Anthonys he is missing an "appropriate behavior" chip.mo
legalmania
12-27-2008, 05:58 PM
The only time I read them is if there is a line at the checkout stand, I looked at the price last time and they are 5 bucks now, wow I remember when they were 35 cents.
5 dollars I had no idea. I wouldn't pay that much either. That's outrageous.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 05:59 PM
and remember, the next day was when Jose came to pick her up all in a huff. didn't even hold the door open for her :wink:
Oh yeah, I love that video. :tongue:
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 05:59 PM
I have said it before. Jose is making some powerful enemies. I hope he thinks Casey is worth it. PUKE
I need a Baez fix daily. Here's another one of his blunders at Casey's 1st Court Appearance After Second arrest. Very short clip. Watch what the judge says at the end. For your viewing pleasure. :rolleyes:
http://www.wftv.com/video/17345918/index.html
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 05:59 PM
I know but they ask her several times who she was and she would not say. I don't know if she ever did.We know that one of her strong points is evading a question!mo
tomsgirl
12-27-2008, 06:00 PM
I would like to thank the protesters from the bottom of my heart. If it weren't for them we would never know that Casey knows how to dial 911. :patriot:
lmao!!!:tonguewag:
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 06:01 PM
ITA....He is going to be working with OCSD for many years to come,if he stays in practice.....Does he believe that LE,CSI, and The State of Florida is going to forget his actions and words revolving around this case. Once again, like The Anthonys he is missing an "appropriate behavior" chip.mo
Yes he is missing that chip. I can't believe some of the things he says.
Wow.:ohmy:
need2no
12-27-2008, 06:03 PM
I wonder about Baez what is his angle? Does he expect the prosecution to do a bad job? They had to go backwards in this case, because of his clients lies. They had to skate around evidence because of his clients lies. Mr. Baez your client is a liar.
I think Baez is scared, and this case is important to him personally, not for the benefit of casey, but for his own benefit. Based on his 'performance' in court, this case could make or break this relatively new attorney's future, and he knows it. The announcement of the remains being confirmed as Caylee's seems to have somewhat diminished the smirk on Baez's face, this was a big blow to his defense.
I guess we will continue to see and hear a lot from him now that he is buddies with Geraldo. I doubt he will sway many with his finger pointing smoke and mirrors away from his client.
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 06:04 PM
Oh yeah, I love that video. :tongue:
This one? :cool: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US
legalmania
12-27-2008, 06:04 PM
A big thank you for that wealth of information. So.. I guess none of the family members have been arrested.
Not only that but Baez can't get any money from books, movies , trash talk if Casey is convicted.
Questionable advertising for the PI firm, IMO.
jmo
@ least she didn't name names, so no harm done to the PI. That is, IF there was a PI, and IF he brought her the information she was wanting to hear. ME? I think it was something she tho't was going to impress people. And, again, wouldn't it be in her daughter's best interests for that PI to get the information right quick to LE so they could go get that nanny? (Geesh, I get started on that stuff, and then hammer THERE IS NO NANNY!!!!!)
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 06:06 PM
I need a Baez fix daily. Here's another one of his blunders at Casey's 1st Court Appearance After Second arrest. Very short clip. Watch what the judge says at the end. For your viewing pleasure. :rolleyes:
http://www.wftv.com/video/17345918/index.html
TY. Good one. :thumbsup:
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 06:06 PM
some men, heck lots of guys and let's be honest would sleep with her if they had the chance.Not me personally but I know a lot of guys would.
I don't know though if she is as manipulative as she could be.I think she could be really dangerous in the right situation if she was in the general prison population.Sure some women would try to beat her as child killers aren't looked upon favorably but I feel she might be able to turn her sexuality to her advantage.
That's assuming she is convicted...which appears to be a slam dunk unless her attorneys can get something that points to someone else.I don't think reasonable doubt will save her.
To kill your own child..is one of the more heinous of crimes in my book
:cursing:
A lot of men will sleep with any woman who gives it away freely, no personal magnetism necessary. I know what you mean about Casey manipulating others in prison. There are male guards in women's prisons and to get what she wants Casey will probably do exactly as you say.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 06:07 PM
This one? :cool: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US
Yep. Your are keeping me entertained. Thanks.:thumbup:
legalmania
12-27-2008, 06:08 PM
I think Baez is scared, and this case is important to him personally, not for the benefit of casey, but for his own benefit. Based on his 'performance' in court, this case could make or break this relatively new attorney's future, and he knows it. The announcement of the remains being confirmed as Caylee's seems to have somewhat diminished the smirk on Baez's face, this was a big blow to his defense.
I guess we will continue to see and hear a lot from him now that he is buddies with Geraldo. I doubt he will sway many with his finger pointing smoke and mirrors away from his client.
Has Baez been doing interviews? Because here in the woods of Georgia I don't get to see much about the sunshine state and Orlando. I watch NG but don't get Geraldo.
Probably so...and I'm guessing their office must be located second star to the right and straight on til' morning.
Love it!!!! :lol: Alice in Wonderland, Peter Pan!!!!!
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 06:09 PM
We know that one of her strong points is evading a question!mo
Yes it is. All she says to LE when they tell her she is lying is UH HUH.
What a waste. :glare:
legalmania
12-27-2008, 06:10 PM
I sure wouldn't buy a book written by him, unless it was entitled "How I failed my client".
LOL. Your right there, unless Baez has The Anthony Syndrome he has to know his client is guilty.
I can't believe she had a panic attack. In the first place, he wasn't even there, so how does he know what she really had?? In the second place, she hasn't panicked about anything, why would she panic about that?
Because it affects HER---until now, she was smug in the realization Caylee had not been found. NOW--they have Caylee's body, and they continue to connect the dots to her, with more evidence than they had.
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 06:11 PM
I sure wouldn't buy a book written by him, unless it was entitled "How I failed my client".
One his better quotes early on was "You are assuming she doesn't know where her daughter is" -Jose Baez How's that working out for you now Jose?
suzanne
12-27-2008, 06:11 PM
Does anyone know where in the backyard the dog smelled somthing?
Neffy
12-27-2008, 06:13 PM
More about a Special Masters exparte motion Rule 706
Second, appointees from scientific backgrounds may not be sensitive to the problems associated with ex parte communications and judicial evidence-gathering under our adversary system. By professional instinct, they will often want to acquire their own data, perform their own analyses, and confer with other interested investigators (e.g., the parties' own experts). These all may be proper activities for a testimonial witness, but they become questionable when undertaken by quasi-judicial agents. Unless great care is taken to spell out the rules of engagement, a Rule 706 expert acting as a judicial advisor can create a procedural morass from which satisfactory escape is all but impossible.
Interesting.
legalmania
12-27-2008, 06:13 PM
That's what I was thinking but check out this paragraph:
Rule 706 is also sometimes invoked in the appointment of experts to serve as nontestimonial technical advisors to the court -- although some authority holds that Rule 706 is inapplicable to such appointments. Counsel, in any event, should be wary of orders assigning Rule 706 experts to duties that may shade imperceptibly into the role of a magistrate or special master. The dangers here are legion, but two deserve specific discussion. First, to appointees who are themselves practicing scientists, the standards of review for Daubert and Rule 56 motions may seem inscrutable and artificial, and if such appointees are asked to recommend dispositions on such motions, they may feel inclined, by training and temperament, to determine which side has the better of the factual dispute on the scientific merits. That may be fine with litigants who expect the appointee to take their side, but it represents a potential encroachment on the jury's function.
Don't mean to send anybody on a wild goose chase just things I'm picking out of a special masters motion
I never turn my noise up at education.
need2no
12-27-2008, 06:13 PM
Has Baez been doing interviews? Because here in the woods of Georgia I don't get to see much about the sunshine state and Orlando. I watch NG but don't get Geraldo.
Cury posted a couple of links from 12-22 Geraldo show. Sorry, I don't have the links, but it was on FOX if that helps.
He no longer has DP attorney on this case Lenamon resigned unless there's another one he's brought in. He resigned when DP was taken off the table
LBK isn't death qualified? She didn't just jump off the turnip truck yesterday. She's been an attorney for a number of years, I would imagine the qualifying number of those have been as part of a team on DP cases.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 06:15 PM
One his better quotes early on was "You are assuming she doesn't know where her daughter is" -Jose Baez How's that working out for you now Jose?
Or when he has said several times "Finding Caylee makes my case a lot easier." Wonder how that is working out for him? :biggrin:
I think they were working on a missing child case and had been all over Orlando looking for a Nanny with Casey. They picked up the car after she was arrested IIRC. I always wondered why they didn't ask her what Caylee was wearing when she last saw her :confused:
They knew about the car before the arrest. Cindy told them about the smell of a dead body in her 911 call. They went to the house. The officers were quoted as saying it was the smell of decompositon. Then the US expedition, then the arrest.
MalloryCat
12-27-2008, 06:16 PM
I don't really care either. I am sure LE probably knows or has an idea. Speaking of which, did you all notice on Mark Hawkins myspace it says children, someday and then the song playing is about a daddy and his little girl.
I thought he had kids with Tara?
Oh, now thats interesting! But I dont think Caylee looks like Mark, but you never know, I was unfortunately watching Maury and there was this white woman, very white, and had a very white child, and the Dad was black, but denying the child because of the color, and no one thought he was the Dad, but he was, genetics are something!
I think Caylee was Hispanic personally.
jmo
happygert
12-27-2008, 06:17 PM
LBK isn't death qualified? She didn't just jump off the turnip truck yesterday. She's been an attorney for a number of years, I would imagine the qualifying number of those have been as part of a team on DP cases.
sorry wasn't thinking about her Amy. Was just thinking about lenamons resignation. Yes she has so have alot of others but It doesnt mean everyone thats been attorney for years is still death qualified.....
need2no
12-27-2008, 06:18 PM
Does anyone know where in the backyard the dog smelled somthing?
Close to the playhouse, the sandbox, and in the corner of the yard near the pool.
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 06:18 PM
That's classic Baez.
The most humorous sentence I've heard from Baez... at the end of his press conference he said "I have no further questions."And....You will "learn" to respect me and my client!!:cursing:
legalmania
12-27-2008, 06:19 PM
I need a Baez fix daily. Here's another one of his blunders at Casey's 1st Court Appearance After Second arrest. Very short clip. Watch what the judge says at the end. For your viewing pleasure. :rolleyes:
http://www.wftv.com/video/17345918/index.html
He's agreeing there is probable cause. o.k.
5boxersmom
12-27-2008, 06:19 PM
Does anyone know where in the backyard the dog smelled somthing?
HI suzanne, One of the hits was around the playhouse and maybe the sandbox.
neid_77
12-27-2008, 06:19 PM
This one? :cool: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US
don't you love biazz walking around with dem cool dat shades like he is already some high profile attorney and he has a mission to fulthfill...and casey the disgustingly filthy anthony always walking around minipulating and playing her make believe game as if she doesn't know where caylee is..by wearing them where is caylee t-shirts! look at me world i'm so cute..and i deserve all your attention cuase i am so much smarter than the police! barf
And Lee told Casey in one of the videotaped visits that he found people who know Juliet and Jeff :wink:
But, did they have the same last names as the ones Casey was telling about, and did they ever work w/someone named Casey Anthony? THAT is the new question!!!
MalloryCat
12-27-2008, 06:23 PM
Her dark hair and eyes seem to indicate that.
But for what its worth, She was Italian, and they are usually darker to begin with. jmo
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 06:23 PM
don't you love biazz walking around with dem cool dat shades like he is already some high profile attorney and he has a mission to fulthfill...and casey the disgustingly filthy anthony always walking around minipulating and playing her make believe game as if she doesn't know where caylee is..by wearing them where is caylee t-shirts! look at me world i'm so cute..and i deserve all your attention cuase i am so much smarter than the police! barfEven though I always believed that Casey killed Caylee, it makes me even sicker to see her wearing those shirts;knowing that she tossed that baby into a snake filled woods....I mean that is cold...chilling and cold!mo
legalmania
12-27-2008, 06:24 PM
aiding and abetting wow now that would speak volumes if he was charged with that. :ohmy:
I was wondering how? I been trying to follow as much as I can but I must have missed something.
Neffy
12-27-2008, 06:25 PM
http://www.daubertontheweb.com/depositions.htm
"Expert discovery seldom ends with service of the expert's report. Usually, the adversary will seek and obtain further discovery......."
Check out the "generic" expert deposition checklist
kitty1182
12-27-2008, 06:25 PM
Baez kind of looks like the hispanic version of the pop n' fresh dough boy.
http://bestsmileys.com/lol/4.gif
sunstar
12-27-2008, 06:25 PM
Her dark hair and eyes seem to indicate that.
George has dark eyes and assuming, dark hair before it turned white. Casey has dark hair. I don't think Caylee's dad necessarily had to be Hispanic. :shrug: MOO
Speaking of the "script" the nanny was suppose to give her, wonder where it is? Was it in the car, in her purse, in her pocket, did she eat it?
Now what did she do with it? :biggrin:
Maybe it was on one of those tape machines line on "Mission Impossible" and it selfdestructed.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 06:25 PM
That would be the second time I had to laugh out loud at Baez.
He'd be pitiful if he was so arrogant and incompetent.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 06:26 PM
Maybe it was on one of those tape machines line on "Mission Impossible" and it selfdestructed.
There you go! :lol: "Good Evening Miss Anthony..."
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 06:26 PM
But, did they have the same last names as the ones Casey was telling about, and did they ever work w/someone named Casey Anthony? THAT is the new question!!!In listening to the tapes (again) on NG last night....I noticed that she said Jeffrey Mark Hopkins. IIRC, when LA mentions (to her) that he knows MH, she says not that Mark Hopkins...Just like not that Zenaida!mo
happygert
12-27-2008, 06:26 PM
Even though I always believed that Casey killed Caylee, it makes me even sicker to see her wearing those shirts;knowing that she tossed that baby into a snake filled woods....I mean that is cold...chilling and cold!mo
Very cold. she's one cold hearted B***H...
kitty1182
12-27-2008, 06:27 PM
Even though I always believed that Casey killed Caylee, it makes me even sicker to see her wearing those shirts;knowing that she tossed that baby into a snake filled woods....I mean that is cold...chilling and cold!mo
I agree, but I don't even think she gave it a second thought..:mad:
snowflakes
12-27-2008, 06:27 PM
The Ants aren't peeping much lately.:thumbsup: A refreshing break, I think.
happygert
12-27-2008, 06:27 PM
In listening to the tapes (again) on NG last night....I noticed that she said Jeffrey Mark Hopkins. IIRC, when LA mentions (to her) that he knows MH, she says not that Mark Hopkins...Just like not that Zenaida!mo
Exactly. everytime they find one with the name she gave them she comes back with oh not that one theres another one.....
Neffy
12-27-2008, 06:29 PM
There you go! :lol: "Good Evening Miss Anthony..."
:lol: :lol:
suzanne
12-27-2008, 06:29 PM
Close to the playhouse, the sandbox, and in the corner of the yard near the pool.
Ok,thankyou very much.Are these area's all sort of close together?
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 06:30 PM
I agree, but I don't even think she gave it a second thought..:mad:
Of course not. She'd have to stop thinking about herself to do that. :tongueside:
kitty1182
12-27-2008, 06:31 PM
Of course not. She'd have to stop thinking about herself to do that. :tongueside:
I wonder what she ordered form the commissary this past week? :blink:
neid_77
12-27-2008, 06:32 PM
Exactly. everytime they find one with the name she gave them she comes back with oh not that one theres another one.....
what is so funny she has no phone numbers how could she have gotten this phone she kept from work if she hadn't been working for 2yrs?..she did say before they went to universal that she had gotten a phone from work....what makes me so mad:cursing: is they fully disprove her story and she thinks she can still fool them by going with it..how many times did she do this after...she was disproved every time...is this arragonce?..or just that she is smarter than 3 veteran detectives?:rolleyes:
legalmania
12-27-2008, 06:32 PM
http://www.daubertontheweb.com/depositions.htm
"Expert discovery seldom ends with service of the expert's report. Usually, the adversary will seek and obtain further discovery......."
Check out the "generic" expert deposition checklist
Looks like you are really getting into this. If you want go to www.findlaw you can find out laws such as statutes ect. that apply to your state. They also have a legal dictionary. The best is lexis-nexis but you have to pay for that.
PROPROS
12-27-2008, 06:32 PM
Exactly. everytime they find one with the name she gave them she comes back with oh not that one theres another one.....Right, now what are the chances of there being another Jeffrey Mark Hopkins that just happened to work at US and just happened to know Casey. This makes me believe that she did not think that LE would check out these facts. She figured if her family bought it, then so would LE. mo
happygert
12-27-2008, 06:32 PM
The Ants aren't peeping much lately.:thumbsup: A refreshing break, I think.
Yes what are they going to say? There usual was we had several tips on the way here.. I've lost weight, can't sleep. casey is telling truth? The FBI and LE aren't looking they aren't following tips. They can't sing that tune anymore.
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 06:32 PM
I wonder what she ordered form the commissary this past week? :blink:
Whatever it was, I hope it was stale and stuck going down.
bama__angel
12-27-2008, 06:33 PM
The Ants aren't peeping much lately.:thumbsup: A refreshing break, I think.
I am prepared for the slamming for this:
I truly think the Anthony's are broken. I cant even imagine......there is no more hope.
kitty1182
12-27-2008, 06:33 PM
Whatever it was, I hope it was stale and stuck going down.
LOL..............:biggrin:
True2Blues
12-27-2008, 06:34 PM
Yes what are they going to say? There usual was we had several tips on the way here.. I've lost weight, can't sleep. casey is telling truth? The FBI and LE aren't looking they aren't following tips. They can't sing that tune anymore.
They promised their stories would match from now on, they could be making up the final 'version'.
kitty1182
12-27-2008, 06:35 PM
I am prepared for the slamming for this:
I truly think the Anthony's are broken. I cant even imagine......there is no more hope.
Christmas and any Holidays will never be the same for them.....
Casey has destroyed so many lives.......
She deserves all that is going to come her way...
suzanne
12-27-2008, 06:35 PM
HI suzanne, One of the hits was around the playhouse and maybe the sandbox.
Thankyou,Do you have a link to a picture of the back yard or a chart of the back yard where the dog smelled this?
*MoonRider*
12-27-2008, 06:35 PM
Ok,thankyou very much.Are these area's all sort of close together?
Here's a pic of the yard. IIRC they moved the playhouse over the 4th of July. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. The flags are where the dogs hit.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/yard.jpg
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