Caylee Anthony - Dec 26/08

[*MoonRider*]

Going thru those emails again Cindy Anthony did have her family's backing. She didn't want it. That's not what she wanted to hear. She hooked up with kidfinders. Whoever would go along with Cindy.

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It really is sad that they chose people i.e. KidFinders who were only exploiting them for money over her own family who had her best interests at heart. Even after Caylee has been identified we see the Milstead's visiting them. I sure hope Cindy can repair the damage to her family and stop the denial.

JMO

[Neffy]

RE: Ricks emails.

He is literally giving Casey an out IE: the pool accident to his sister to try to save Casey.

I wonder if the defense changes gears to go the accidental route if it will even be believed now?

So many ships have sailed in Casey's defense IMO. There are not excuses left.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Anthonys Spend Christmas Without Caylee, Plan To Keep Donating Toys

Now that the Orlando Rescue Mission has more gifts than it can use at the moment, Cindy Anthony said she plans to donate additional toys left at her granddaughter’s memorial to other charities in need.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18343056/detail.html

[sunstar]

His attorney said they had more and it would come later. I am just hoping.

Yes, I'm hopeful too.

[Neffy]

Anthonys Spend Christmas Without Caylee, Plan To Keep Donating Toys

Now that the Orlando Rescue Mission has more gifts than it can use at the moment, Cindy Anthony said she plans to donate additional toys left at her granddaughter’s memorial to other charities in need.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18343056/detail.html

Speak of the devil. Can't be upstaged now. I'm sure should the shelter have "too much" they would find it in the hearts to share with other organizations.

[legalmania]

I would like to see the family charged with obstruction, and I think they know they've interfered with the investigation. Why else would they want immunity? I doubt they will be charged, though, as they have a bigger fish to fry with Casey.

What are we teaching people? That if you don't commit the crime than it's o.k. to lie and obstuct and hide evidence so long as you come clean after the crime has been solved? I know you agree with me I'm just saying.

[sunstar]

RE: Ricks emails.

He is literally giving Casey an out IE: the pool accident to his sister to try to save Casey.

I wonder if the defense changes gears to go the accidental route if it will even be believed now?

So many ships have sailed in Casey's defense IMO. There are not excuses left.

After all Casey's statements to LE, wouldn't she have to testify to this scenario and explain why she lied to LE? :shrug: MOO

[tomsgirl]

Yep. Cindy needs to tell the truth for a change. I think she made up the story about paying the nanny so she could make the nanny seem real to the police. It reminds me of when she said that the nanny has a house key. Both lies seem to be about making the nanny into a real person and getting Casey out of jail.

Cindy may be talking about money stolen from her every month, and pretending it was going to a nanny.

There is sooo many things about this case and this family that I can't wrap my head around. Another thing, why would the "nanny" murder Caylee without asking for a ransom or to call Casey and say, OK, I got your child now pay up. (maybe owed money for some kind of drugs) Why would some one hate her enough to kill her child? If I thought that a kidnapper nanny still had a key to my house, I would be changing all the door locks and putting burgular bars on all the windows. I haven't seen any thing like that happening at their house. I'm sure we would have heard about it if they did that. Again. just curious. JMO:sad:

[legalmania]

Speak of the devil. Can't be upstaged now. I'm sure should the shelter have "too much" they would find it in the hearts to share with other organizations.

I wonder if Caylee hadn't been found what she would be saying?

[breezie]

Speak of the devil. Can't be upstaged now. I'm sure should the shelter have "too much" they would find it in the hearts to share with other organizations.

LOL..that was predictable, eh? Ole good-hearted Cindy. Too bad she threw away the first ones so long ago. And then Lee ripped up the memorial. NOT BUYING what they are selling. Why don't THEY donate something in Caylee's name?

[VII]

There is sooo many things about this case and this family that I can't wrap my head around. Another thing, why would the "nanny" murder Caylee without asking for a ransom or to call Casey and say, OK, I got your child now pay up. (maybe owed money for some kind of drugs) Why would some one hate her enough to kill her child? If I thought that a kidnapper nanny still had a key to my house, I would be changing all the door locks and putting burgular bars on all the windows. I haven't seen any thing like that happening at their house. I'm sure we would have heard about it if they did that. Again. just curious. JMO:sad:

no need to be out the bucks for any kind of security system at this point.
They are under a 24/7 microscope.

[Jester]

There is sooo many things about this case and this family that I can't wrap my head around. Another thing, why would the "nanny" murder Caylee without asking for a ransom or to call Casey and say, OK, I got your child now pay up. (maybe owed money for some kind of drugs) Why would some one hate her enough to kill her child? If I thought that a kidnapper nanny still had a key to my house, I would be changing all the door locks and putting burgular bars on all the windows. I haven't seen any thing like that happening at their house. I'm sure we would have heard about it if they did that. Again. just curious. JMO:sad:

Good question about changing the locks. If Cindy really believed anyone had a key to the house, that's the first thing she would have done. She's just full of lies, and, like Casey, she's got some problems with continuity.

[Neffy]

After all Casey's statements to LE, wouldn't she have to testify to this scenario and explain why she lied to LE? :shrug: MOO

She sure would although she wouldn't have to if there is no plea deal offered by the state.

It would be in her best interest to explain of course. Her lie can even be believable this time as she will have the states' timeline and all the evidence against her. She'll have to weave her accidential story and how scared she was into the accurate evidence and as good as she is she'll make it custom fit like a glove.

Same thing Bobby Cutts did. Waited until all the evidence was presented, not guilty the whole time and when it looked like there was no way out, he took the stand at the very end. He couldn't be cross examined and gave his version which fit the evidence to a T. It was pathetic.

There was nothing new he offered just the exact evidence that was presented by the state. He just inserted the ACCIDENT story.

[tomsgirl]

I appreciate the information! :)

Thanks for clearing that up for me also. I thought they could, i just was not sure. TY

[Grins]

"Meter Reader Who Found Caylee To Tell Story Soon
Kronk Plans To Talk To Media After New Year
...
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The meter reader who discovered the remains of Caylee Anthony plans to tell his whole story to the media sometime in the new year, his attorney said on Wednesday.
Roy Kronk is “evaluating his options for participation in various interviews,” attorney David Evans said, adding that Kronk has been approached by a variety of local, cable, and network media to tell his story..."

Is he going to sell his testimony?
What do you think of that?

http://www.wesh.com/news/18344942/detail.html

[5boxersmom]

"Meter Reader Who Found Caylee To Tell Story Soon
Kronk Plans To Talk To Media After New Year
...
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The meter reader who discovered the remains of Caylee Anthony plans to tell his whole story to the media sometime in the new year, his attorney said on Wednesday.
Roy Kronk is “evaluating his options for participation in various interviews,” attorney David Evans said, adding that Kronk has been approached by a variety of local, cable, and network media to tell his story..."

Is he going to sell his testimony?
What do you think of that?

http://www.wesh.com/news/18344942/detail.html

Hi Grins,

Well, I hope he doesn't sell his story. Wait til after the trial. I hope.

[Mamie]

works for me! I don't care what she thinks...ugly, fat, bloated and miserable. I can live with it.

Yes, I have pictured Goldie Hawn in the scene from "Death Becomes Her" where her boyfriend (Bruce Willis) fell in love with and married Meryl Streep. Yeah, that fits Casey. JMO

[Neffy]

LOL..that was predictable, eh? Ole good-hearted Cindy. Too bad she threw away the first ones so long ago. And then Lee ripped up the memorial. NOT BUYING what they are selling. Why don't THEY donate something in Caylee's name?

LOL! Sure was!

[sunstar]

There is sooo many things about this case and this family that I can't wrap my head around. Another thing, why would the "nanny" murder Caylee without asking for a ransom or to call Casey and say, OK, I got your child now pay up. (maybe owed money for some kind of drugs) Why would some one hate her enough to kill her child? If I thought that a kidnapper nanny still had a key to my house, I would be changing all the door locks and putting burgular bars on all the windows. I haven't seen any thing like that happening at their house. I'm sure we would have heard about it if they did that. Again. just curious. JMO:sad:

There hasn't ever been any explanation given for motive for this "nanny abduction". The woman was supposed to love kids so much she didn't ask for payment, had duplicates of everything like clothes, toys and whatnot, and yet after over a year taking care of Caylee decides to abduct her and then kill her? A jury is supposed to believe this? :scared: I really believe when Casey invented this scenario she wasn't counting on Caylee's body being found and she could just continue the tale that Caylee was alive. MOO

[breezie]

"Meter Reader Who Found Caylee To Tell Story Soon
Kronk Plans To Talk To Media After New Year
...
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The meter reader who discovered the remains of Caylee Anthony plans to tell his whole story to the media sometime in the new year, his attorney said on Wednesday.
Roy Kronk is “evaluating his options for participation in various interviews,” attorney David Evans said, adding that Kronk has been approached by a variety of local, cable, and network media to tell his story..."

Is he going to sell his testimony?
What do you think of that?

http://www.wesh.com/news/18344942/detail.html

I hope he doesn't sell it. But he has a right to tell his story, I guess. Look at the Anthonys. They've sold Caylee all over the place.

[Neffy]

Hi Grins,

Well, I hope he doesn't sell his story. Wait til after the trial. I hope.

I wouldn't fault him if he did. I bet he wakes up in cold sweats reliving the "find". I guess I have mixed feelings on this and whatever decision he makes I have no comment on.

[legalmania]

Hi Grins,

Well, I hope he doesn't sell his story. Wait til after the trial. I hope.

If he does then we trying this case through the media something the prosecution warned would happen.

[Neffy]

These cases are like a well-timed dance or well-played card game. They are as convoluted as the crimes themselves. It never seems to be a straightforward trial of evidence, testimoney and the truth.


Yep a strategic games of chess now. You have to know your opponents next move.

[sunstar]

She sure would although she wouldn't have to if there is no plea deal offered by the state.

It would be in her best interest to explain of course. Her lie can even be believable this time as she will have the states' timeline and all the evidence against her. She'll have to weave her accidential story and how scared she was into the accurate evidence and as good as she is she'll make it custom fit like a glove.

Same thing Bobby Cutts did. Waited until all the evidence was presented, not guilty the whole time and when it looked like there was no way out, he took the stand at the very end. He couldn't be cross examined and gave his version which fit the evidence to a T. It was pathetic.

There was nothing new he offered just the exact evidence that was presented by the state. He just inserted the ACCIDENT story.

Yes, I followed that case, and you're right ~ that's about all she could do, imo. Kind of like throwing herself on the mercy of the jury to believe it was an accident. It didn't work for him (except for avoiding the DP) but who knows since she's a young woman. MOO

[breezie]

Yep a strategic games of chess now. You have to know your opponents next move.

speaking of which... does anybody know what the timeline is for a normal discovery. The motion granted gave the State 14 days to deliver the x-rays and photos, but did Baez really *win* anything?

[sunstar]

I hope he doesn't sell it. But he has a right to tell his story, I guess. Look at the Anthonys. They've sold Caylee all over the place.

I just hope he keeps a low profile until after the trial. MOO

[Neffy]

Yes, I followed that case, and you're right ~ that's about all she could do, imo. Kind of like throwing herself on the mercy of the jury to believe it was an accident. It didn't work for him (except for avoiding the DP) but who knows since she's a young woman. MOO

OMG remember when he was doing the Niagra Falls crying (well in sound anyways) and he peeked out above his kleenex to see who was watching with no tears!

Sorry OTw/Cutts but I see this case going that way.

[legalmania]

Yep a strategic games of chess now. You have to know your opponents next move.

I love it when a plan comes together.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Police: 'Missing' Florida Baby Never Existed

Police want McCormic to pay for the resources that were used to locate the nonexistent child. Nearly 20 detectives worked the case throughout all of Christmas Eve and Christmas.

''We're always on call. We're always here,'' Miami police spokesman Willie Moreno told the Herald. "But what's really nasty about it was the tremendous manpower and hours she used."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473087,00.html

[legalmania]

speaking of which... does anybody know what the timeline is for a normal discovery. The motion granted gave the State 14 days to deliver the x-rays and photos, but did Baez really *win* anything?

I believe discovery in general can go up to the day of trial. The judge usually rules on how much time as they go. He got those photos today, I believe.

[Neffy]

speaking of which... does anybody know what the timeline is for a normal discovery. The motion granted gave the State 14 days to deliver the x-rays and photos, but did Baez really *win* anything?

Has it been 14 days? Nope didn't win a thing. He has a right to these things but he made some enemies with the ME and LE depts. They will follow protocol with feet right up to the line.

Imo, Baez thinks the dream team makes him look credible and someone to fear. Everyone is thumbing there noses right back at him.

Childish yes, but they all went the extra mile to diss and drag LE thru the mud.

[sunstar]

OMG remember when he was doing the Niagra Falls crying (well in sound anyways) and he peeked out above his kleenex to see who was watching with no tears!

Sorry OTw/Cutts but I see this case going that way.

Yes it was so fake, imo! I'll agree, I can see some tears from Casey feeling sorry only for herself. MOO

[courtsinsession]

If it's Cindy, the it explains Casey's problem to me. It almost seems like Caylee is objectified. The photos are the same ... loads of photos of Caylee playing dress up. It's like the videos and photos are taken to share with friends as "what a cute little accessory we have in the house."

ya know when they showed pics of Caylee, i thought she was all dressed up like a little doll; the problem for Casey was that Caylee was a living breathing child with needs of her own and Casey could not handle it, didn't want it and got rid of "the problem"

[*MoonRider*]

Has it been 14 days? Nope didn't win a thing. He has a right to these things but he made some enemies with the ME and LE depts. They will follow protocol with feet right up to the line.

Imo, Baez thinks the dream team makes him look credible and someone to fear. Everyone is thumbing there noses right back at him.

Childish yes, but they all went the extra mile to diss and drag LE thru the mud.

I hope he shows Casey the skull photos. MOO

[Mamie]

If my child or grandchild were missing, I would open both doors of my house and say come on in take any and everything you think might help find them. What can I tell you, what can I do- Hey if they told me that standing on my head would help find them, I would sure try(at 60 might be hard) but I would give it my best shot. Do you need a LD, how about blood samples, hair samples , Anything, Is there anything I can do.

I do not understand any family that protecting the secrets is more important than finding their Grandchild. It hurts to realize that there are grandparents out their like these.

Right on the money with this post. That's what normal people do. I think John Walsh and M. Klaas said the same thing to LE when their children were missing. I know that's what I would do. JMO

[breezie]

You're joking, right? Walked all over? All Rick wanted was an answer to the babysitter question! When Cindy ignored that vital question over and over and over and kept up with "I know something you don't know" act... well, what did you expect?? He tried to be supportive and she continued living in DENIEL-LAND! She got called out on it, Rick begged her to get help (counseling) and she ends up with a big EFF U to him and everyone else who said anything derogatory. I wish I could feel the empathy (sympathy: Feel Sorry For -- Empathy: Feel Sorry With) that so many do. I just can't. :angry: Sorry.

not 2lakes, but I think the *walk all over* part meant Casey and George. Seems Cindy's mother, brother and Aunt were sympathetic to her until the lies and hindering began.

[courtsinsession]

Yep. Cindy needs to tell the truth for a change. I think she made up the story about paying the nanny so she could make the nanny seem real to the police. It reminds me of when she said that the nanny has a house key. Both lies seem to be about making the nanny into a real person and getting Casey out of jail.

Cindy may be talking about money stolen from her every month, and pretending it was going to a nanny.

At this point Cindy wouldn't know the truth if it hit her upside her hard head

[Lavenia]

I just hope he keeps a low profile until after the trial. MOO

I do,too! We don't need any of the players gumming up the works!

[tomsgirl]

Hi Grins,

Well, I hope he doesn't sell his story. Wait til after the trial. I hope.

Ya'll (yes I'm from the south) don't beat me up too bad but I kinda sorta think that he should get the reward money or some kind of compensation. If not for him, her body might never have been found, and Casey MIGHT have gotten away with murder. And, he tried 2 times before she was found to do the proper thing which was notify the authorities. JMO:unsure:

[MerriMent]

She sure would although she wouldn't have to if there is no plea deal offered by the state.

It would be in her best interest to explain of course. Her lie can even be believable this time as she will have the states' timeline and all the evidence against her. She'll have to weave her accidential story and how scared she was into the accurate evidence and as good as she is she'll make it custom fit like a glove.

Same thing Bobby Cutts did. Waited until all the evidence was presented, not guilty the whole time and when it looked like there was no way out, he took the stand at the very end. He couldn't be cross examined and gave his version which fit the evidence to a T. It was pathetic.

There was nothing new he offered just the exact evidence that was presented by the state. He just inserted the ACCIDENT story.

fyi: Bobby Cutts was cross-examined. One of the first questions the prosecutor asked was whether he had a cold.

[VII]

ya know when they showed pics of Caylee, i thought she was all dressed up like a little doll; the problem for Casey was that Caylee was a living breathing child with needs of her own and Casey could not handle it, didn't want it and got rid of "the problem"

and beginning about age 2 is when children are most likely to start being abused...
they are expressing a need for increased independence.
they are into everything.
they haven't yet learned discipline.
and when you have a ~parent~ of the same mentality,
recipe for disaster.

Perhaps, Cindy *thought* Caylee was getting old enuff for her to begin forcing Casey into accepting the responsiblity of being a Mother and provide to HER child.

just thinkin' out loud
takin' different scenario's into consideration

[PuffDragon]

The lastest craze in missing (by parents) children. Just blame it on the nanny. Another reason Casey can not get away with this.

I was kind of hoping that the defense team would jump right on it to point out that "See? It really does happen!" so that when it was shown up as a hoax they would have egg on their face. Unfortunately for that dream the mother caved too quickly.

[Neffy]

fyi: Bobby Cutts was cross-examined. One of the first questions the prosecutor asked was whether he had a cold.


ROFL your right! Pros were outraged. There wasn't much of a cross except for their outrage at this turn of events.

[MerriMent]

The Anthony's haven't sold Caylee. I don't know where you come up with this kind of stuff. If the meter man has important testimony, it will be less credible if he sells his story first, even though, as you say, he has a right to do so.

ITA. If this meter reader truly cares about justice for Caylee, he'll keep his mouth shut. Wasn't there an important witness in the OJ case who sold her story--and her credibility went down the drawn?

[legalmania]

Has it been 14 days? Nope didn't win a thing. He has a right to these things but he made some enemies with the ME and LE depts. They will follow protocol with feet right up to the line.

Imo, Baez thinks the dream team makes him look credible and someone to fear. Everyone is thumbing there noses right back at him.

Childish yes, but they all went the extra mile to diss and drag LE thru the mud.

Baez is making a big mistake with this judge. I guess he plans on getting change of venue or something because if the judge doesn't like you it won't be an easy trial.

[Neffy]

Baez is making a big mistake with this judge. I guess he plans on getting change of venue or something because if the judge doesn't like you it won't be an easy trial.

Change of venue is pretty much a slam dunk. A tiger doesn't change his stripes and I'm sure the next venue Baez and his team will insult the intelligence of that one to.

[Mamie]

Police: 'Missing' Florida Baby Never Existed

Police want McCormic to pay for the resources that were used to locate the nonexistent child. Nearly 20 detectives worked the case throughout all of Christmas Eve and Christmas.

''We're always on call. We're always here,'' Miami police spokesman Willie Moreno told the Herald. "But what's really nasty about it was the tremendous manpower and hours she used."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473087,00.html

Although I can't open the link for some reason, I knew it, I just knew it was phoney! Too many things wrong with it. JMO

[legalmania]

Change of venue is pretty much a slam dunk. A tiger doesn't change his stripes and I'm sure the next venue Baez and his team will insult the intelligence of that one to.

I think he is going to learn a big lesson even if the great Johhnny Cochran walked in and said I'll be on your team.

[Katt2]

Yep. Cindy needs to tell the truth for a change. I think she made up the story about paying the nanny so she could make the nanny seem real to the police. It reminds me of when she said that the nanny has a house key. Both lies seem to be about making the nanny into a real person and getting Casey out of jail.

Cindy may be talking about money stolen from her every month, and pretending it was going to a nanny.


Cindy never said Zany had a key to the house. She asked Casey if she thought anyone had been in their home to which Casey replied, "I told you I gave Zany a key, remember?" To which Cindy never replied one way or the other.

[courtsinsession]

"Meter Reader Who Found Caylee To Tell Story Soon
Kronk Plans To Talk To Media After New Year
...
ORLANDO, Fla. -- The meter reader who discovered the remains of Caylee Anthony plans to tell his whole story to the media sometime in the new year, his attorney said on Wednesday.
Roy Kronk is “evaluating his options for participation in various interviews,” attorney David Evans said, adding that Kronk has been approached by a variety of local, cable, and network media to tell his story..."

Is he going to sell his testimony?
What do you think of that?

http://www.wesh.com/news/18344942/detail.html

it won't be good if he sells his story; zilch credibility

[Neffy]

it won't be good if he sells his story; zilch credibility

IMO, his story about what happened is pretty much out there and documented. There's not much to add. That's why if he gives an exclusive after the trial it really doesn't mean much. If someone's willing to pay him, god bless him.

[*MoonRider*]

The Anthony's haven't sold Caylee. I don't know where you come up with this kind of stuff. If the meter man has important testimony, it will be less credible if he sells his story first, even though, as you say, he has a right to do so.

Excuse me :thumbdown: ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News uncovered new information about who's cashing in on the Casey Anthony case. Sources extremely close to the family told Eyewitness News that the Anthonys have signed a $2 million movie deal with the Lifetime Movie Network.

What about money from Caylee's photos, etc. They haven't worked a day since the 911 call. When they did make appearance on TV they never pleaded for Caylee's safe return. On the Today Show George made sure to give Kid Finders (criminals or have never found a kid but sure like to make money off of them) a plug but no plug for Caylee.
:cursing: MOO

http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

[101Spots]

Although I can't open the link for some reason, I knew it, I just knew it was phoney! Too many things wrong with it. JMO

Such as a 6-month old baby being one foot tall?

[legalmania]

IMO, his story about what happened is pretty much out there and documented. There's not much to add. That's why if he gives an exclusive after the trial it really doesn't mean much. If someone willing to pay him, god bless him.

Except pictures of the scene, that would be much obliged.

[Neffy]

Excuse me :thumbdown: ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News uncovered new information about who's cashing in on the Casey Anthony case. Sources extremely close to the family told Eyewitness News that the Anthonys have signed a $2 million movie deal with the Lifetime Movie Network.

What about money from Caylee's photos, etc. They haven't worked a day since the 911 call. When they did make appearance on TV they never pleaded for Caylee's safe return. On the Today Show George made sure to give Kid Finders (criminals or have never found a kid but sure like to make money off of them) a plug but no plug for Caylee.
:cursing: MOO

http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

Are they really going to expose Casey?? As I see it it's her they're selling and the much chilling story behind Casey.

[101Spots]

Excuse me :thumbdown: ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News uncovered new information about who's cashing in on the Casey Anthony case. Sources extremely close to the family told Eyewitness News that the Anthonys have signed a $2 million movie deal with the Lifetime Movie Network.

What about money from Caylee's photos, etc. They haven't worked a day since the 911 call. When they did make appearance on TV they never pleaded for Caylee's safe return. On the Today Show George made sure to give Kid Finders (criminals or have never found a kid but sure like to make money off of them) a plug but no plug for Caylee.
:cursing: MOO

http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

This link is from September, and Lifetime denied it. In fact, they issued a statement that they had NO plans for such a movie.

[PuffDragon]

Well, that's strike two on the Nanny-napper defense. I think we could see this one being a hoak, just one look at the picture they were using made my hinky meter go off.

<snipped for relevance>
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There were a lot of red flags on that one, my hinky meter started running immediately. You only had to watch that mother's face when the boyfriend was hugging her at the press conference to know that she was making it up. The one that got me was a 6 month old being a foot tall. Whaaa? Interesting though, it was just as incredible a story as the one the Anthonys were pushing but pretty much everybody on the board here was saying "No, I don't think so". I was kind of wondering if C&G heard about it and what they might have thought? Did they say, "I wonder if it's the same nanny?" or was it more like, "That story is hard to believe!"

[*MoonRider*]

[QUOTE=*MoonRider*;12581218]
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Sources extremely close to the family told Eyewitness News ....
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Yeah, right. Sources extremely close.

Since you are so in the know perhaps you could shed light on how they are paying their bills. TIA

[k_can004]

Excuse me :thumbdown: ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News uncovered new information about who's cashing in on the Casey Anthony case. Sources extremely close to the family told Eyewitness News that the Anthonys have signed a $2 million movie deal with the Lifetime Movie Network.

What about money from Caylee's photos, etc. They haven't worked a day since the 911 call. When they did make appearance on TV they never pleaded for Caylee's safe return. On the Today Show George made sure to give Kid Finders (criminals or have never found a kid but sure like to make money off of them) a plug but no plug for Caylee.
:cursing: MOO

http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

How awful... I for one will not watch.... I'll wait for the trial... in no way shape or form will I help line any of the Anthony's pockets!!!!!!!!

[ishkabibble]

early on in this Cindy stated that she paid for the nanny/sitter, not Casey.

in that case I guess Zanny wasn't Amy or Jesse or whoever was babysitting Caylee as Cindy told LE, it was Casey. Way to get paid for watching your own child!!!

[legalmania]

Excuse me :thumb down: ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News uncovered new information about who's cashing in on the Casey Anthony case. Sources extremely close to the family told Eyewitness News that the Anthony's have signed a $2 million movie deal with the Lifetime Movie Network.

What about money from Caylee's photos, etc. They haven't worked a day since the 911 call. When they did make appearance on TV they never pleaded for Caylee's safe return. On the Today Show George made sure to give Kid Finders (criminals or have never found a kid but sure like to make money off of them) a plug but no plug for Caylee.
:cursing: MOO

http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html


This is disgusting. How could they be signing movie deals when they haven't even buried their granddaughter yet? I was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt but I'm quickly changing my mind.

[legalmania]

I wonder if the poster knew that when they posted it? I suspect they did.


So it's not true o.k. I'll still respect the A's for now.

[*MoonRider*]

[QUOTE=*MoonRider*;12581231]


I'll try to help you:

It's none of your business.

They made it the public's business when they solicited donations to find their granddaughter. MOO

[legalmania]

I guess thats why some people see a necessity in posting old rumor, that have since been disproven, so that people like you will quickly change their mind about the Anthony's.

Its sick and disgusting, imo.

Well we kissed and made up I read your post.

[*MoonRider*]

I guess thats why some people see a necessity in posting old rumor, that have since been disproven, so that people like you will quickly change their mind about the Anthony's.

Its sick and disgusting, imo.

Have you ever heard of "confidentiality agreement"?

[Neffy]

[QUOTE=Dinner Troll;12581238]

They made it the public's business when they solicited donations to find their granddaughter. MOO

Remember scroll , scroll, scroll. :)

[k_can004]

I guess thats why some people see a necessity in posting old rumor, that have since been disproven, so that people like you will quickly change their mind about the Anthony's.

Its sick and disgusting, imo.

Well I for one am glad that it is only rumor.... As for the Anthony's I have really tried to feel sympathy for them.... but it just ain't happening.... sorry but it's just how I honestly feel.....

[trich]

Excuse me :thumbdown: ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News uncovered new information about who's cashing in on the Casey Anthony case. Sources extremely close to the family told Eyewitness News that the Anthonys have signed a $2 million movie deal with the Lifetime Movie Network.

What about money from Caylee's photos, etc. They haven't worked a day since the 911 call. When they did make appearance on TV they never pleaded for Caylee's safe return. On the Today Show George made sure to give Kid Finders (criminals or have never found a kid but sure like to make money off of them) a plug but no plug for Caylee.
:cursing: MOO

http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html



That is where the Anthonys made a big mistake.....Never begging the "kidnappers" to please let Caylee go.
They never promised to deliver money or anything if they would just give Caylee back.
I really am shocked they did not try and do that even though I am still convinced they knew she was dead ever since they got the car from the tow yard.

[rj1212]

I guess thats why some people see a necessity in posting old rumor, that have since been disproven, so that people like you will quickly change their mind about the Anthony's.

Its sick and disgusting, imo.

I agree it's sick and disgusting...posting stuff that's been disproven.
The Anthony's have done so much lying and obstructing to cover Casey and disrespect Caylee that posting old, untrue rumors are very disgusting indeed.
imo

[*MoonRider*]

[QUOTE=*MoonRider*;12581243]

Remember scroll , scroll, scroll. :)

Better yet ignore.:seeya

[legalmania]

Was that a kiss? :loveeyes:

LOL Dinner Troll :wub:

[jammies]

Cindy never said Zany had a key to the house. She asked Casey if she thought anyone had been in their home to which Casey replied, "I told you I gave Zany a key, remember?" To which Cindy never replied one way or the other.



iirc, she didn't say "zany" she said "she" but they had been talking about Zanny.

[Neffy]

I agree it's sick and disgusting...posting stuff that's been disproven.
The Anthony's have done so much lying and obstructing to cover Casey and disrespect Caylee that posting old, untrue rumors are very disgusting indeed.
imo

Not everyone knew that and I'd like to give the poster the benefit of the doubt. What's disgusting is that one poster accused another poster of something for sake of starting trouble. BAD FORM.

[Katt2]

And if one of us could kindly find the link, I do believe that it actually says "she" and not Zannie. The conversation leading up to the question was about Amy , Cindy was trying to lead Casey to say it was Amy that had the key and casey missed her que and went with the nanny. They needed a little more work on that scene. IMOOC

You may be quite right and I will see if I can find it. I only know that Casey was the one who said she had a key.

[frances1]

There were a lot of red flags on that one, my hinky meter started running immediately. You only had to watch that mother's face when the boyfriend was hugging her at the press conference to know that she was making it up. The one that got me was a 6 month old being a foot tall. Whaaa? Interesting though, it was just as incredible a story as the one the Anthonys were pushing but pretty much everybody on the board here was saying "No, I don't think so". I was kind of wondering if C&G heard about it and what they might have thought? Did they say, "I wonder if it's the same nanny?" or was it more like, "That story is hard to believe!"

Puff, I didn't see the press conference you are talking about, but I'm still laughing about the 6 month old being a foot tall.

[nc1948]

If it's Cindy, the it explains Casey's problem to me. It almost seems like Caylee is objectified. The photos are the same ... loads of photos of Caylee playing dress up. It's like the videos and photos are taken to share with friends as "what a cute little accessory we have in the house."

I haven't seen any spur of the moment photos. When she was dirty, unhappy etc. Those are the most fun photos to share later. These staged photos do look just like you say. I think you are correct. I noticed all the toys (especially in the back yard) but no photos of Caylee playing with them. Are they for show too??

[legalmania]

Puff, I didn't see the press conference you are talking about, but I'm still laughing about the 6 month old being a foot tall.

Sitting up straight with a suit on.

[nc1948]

I am pretty sure CA could have deducted Caylee, she was supporting her, as long as casey wasn't putting her on her tax returns, there would be no issue. Caylee would have been a dependant of CA.


I learn something new every time I read the forums. I thought you would have to be the legal guardian to deduct a dependant.

[ishkabibble]

Such as a 6-month old baby being one foot tall?

well they were using a 8 1/2 x 11 photo, so one foot is about right, hehe. what got me was the tie and vest, who would put that on a 6 month old, the drool and the spit ugh!!

[rj1212]

Not everyone knew that and I'd like to give the poster the benefit of the doubt. What's disgusting is that one poster accused another poster of something for sake of starting trouble. BAD FORM.

I'll give the poster the benefit of the doubt as well...I'll apologize for getting in the middle of that without knowing all of the details. However, I'll stand by mo of the Anthony's regarding their deception and obstructing concerning little Caylee. What was their motivation for lying and obstructing? What was their motive for NOT using the media to plead for the safe return of little Caylee? The reason is staring us in the face, and I pray that at trial it's brought to light and hopefully everyone involved in covering up this murder will be brought to justice. Casey murdered Caylee and tried to cover it up, but she's been getting help.
mo

[legalmania]

[QUOTE=Dinner Troll;12581223]

Since you are so in the know perhaps you could shed light on how they are paying their bills. TIA

I think that they have a charity for victims of a crime. I believe even though the A's didn't handle things the way most of us think we would, They have my sympathy, they gave Casey and Caylee their home and love. I respect them for that.

[k_can004]

OMG.. could you imagine the nasty things that would be said about them, if they shared a picture of Caylee with dirt on her face?

Not really... I have pics of my kids with dirt
all over from head to toe and they are hilarious!!! :) its just pics of kids being kids

[sunstar]

ya know when they showed pics of Caylee, i thought she was all dressed up like a little doll; the problem for Casey was that Caylee was a living breathing child with needs of her own and Casey could not handle it, didn't want it and got rid of "the problem"
I couldn't agree more. With all those photos of Caylee dressed up, especially in those oversized sunglasses, it's like she was a toy doll or something, not a precious little child. The beauty of her face was hidden behind the costumes. MOO

[Neffy]

Not really... I have pics of my kids with dirt
all over from head to toe and they are hilarious!!! :)

You got that right. Ever see what a two year old looks like eating a TWIX candy/cookie stick YUUUUUUCK! ROFL!

[legalmania]

OMG.. could you imagine the nasty things that would be said about them, if they shared a picture of Caylee with dirt on her face?

Are you saying that somebody had OCD?

[legalmania]

To fix the quote in your post.. click edit and delete the 2nd quote, and then these statements won't be attached to me. TIA[/QUOTE]


What who me what happened? Where am I?

[marshmallow]

If you consider trying to stop a lie from running rampant on the board...as starting trouble, what can I say, other than skip & scroll.. adjust and ignore.



Dinner Troll is correct in saying that the movie deal was net rumor and not a proven fact.


the devil must be ice skating today, Dinner Troll and I are in agreement, bring on the zambonis

[tomsgirl]

iirc, she didn't say "zany" she said "she" but they had been talking about Zanny.

I wouldn't be OK with ANYONE that I had never met having a key to my house and if my daughter gave someone a key to my house without asking first, I would be fit to be tied and raised all kinds of he!! with her and insisted she get the key back. The nanny had no business having a key to their home when they didn't even have her address or phone #. I just cannot believe that Cindy was that gullible! JMO

[MerriMent]

Puff, I didn't see the press conference you are talking about, but I'm still laughing about the 6 month old being a foot tall.

I'm laughing over the suggestion that a kidnapped six-month-old of any height might be seen walking. No surprise LE uncovered the lie so quickly.

[frances1]

Sitting up straight with a suit on.

OMG, you guys are killing me! I've got to go find that press conference.

[Neffy]

Dinner Troll is correct in saying that the movie deal was net rumor and not a proven fact.


the devil must be ice skating today, Dinner Troll and I are in agreement, bring on the zambonis

That's all that needed to be said.

Instead the poster was accused of having ulterior motives with no fact. Honest mistake that could have been honestly corrected in a considerate fashion.

[rj1212]

I wouldn't be OK with ANYONE that I had never met having a key to my house and if my daughter gave someone a key to my house without asking first, I would be fit to be tied and raised all kinds of he!! with her and insisted she get the key back. The nanny had no business having a key to their home when they didn't even have her address or phone #. I just cannot believe that Cindy was that gullible! JMO


Zanny never received a key because there is no Zanny.

[Mamie]

early on in this Cindy stated that she paid for the nanny/sitter, not Casey.

I wonder what Cindy THOUGHT Casey was doing with all her money from working as an Event Planner. Cindy knew she wasn't contributing to home expenses so I wonder why Cindy would be paying for the nanny anyway. Did she pay by check because Casey didn't have a checking account? (I mean Casey didn't have a checking account, right?) The car Casey drove although they sort of called it Casey's car, was actually in George and/or Cindy's name----maybe because of insurance reasons or maybe because they were aware their daughter was useless. At any rate, there is this big hole left in the story as to just why Cindy would be paying for a bogus nanny/babysitter that was not actually needed at all. JMO

[sunstar]

I learn something new every time I read the forums. I thought you would have to be the legal guardian to deduct a dependant.

I always thought the same thing too! MOO

[legalmania]

I wonder what Cindy THOUGHT Casey was doing with all her money from working as an Event Planner. Cindy knew she wasn't contributing to home expenses so I wonder why Cindy would be paying for the nanny anyway. Did she pay by check because Casey didn't have a checking account? (I mean Casey didn't have a checking account, right?) The car Casey drove although they sort of called it Casey's car, was actually in George and/or Cindy's name----maybe because of insurance reasons or maybe because they were aware their daughter was useless. At any rate, there is this big hole left in the story as to just why Cindy would be paying for a bogus nanny/babysitter that was not actually needed at all. JMO

Oh no not insurance fraud. If Cindy wrote checks to this Zanny than she would have proof, because checks are traceable.

[marshmallow]

I wonder what Cindy THOUGHT Casey was doing with all her money from working as an Event Planner. Cindy knew she wasn't contributing to home expenses so I wonder why Cindy would be paying for the nanny anyway. Did she pay by check because Casey didn't have a checking account? (I mean Casey didn't have a checking account, right?) The car Casey drove although they sort of called it Casey's car, was actually in George and/or Cindy's name----maybe because of insurance reasons or maybe because they were aware their daughter was useless. At any rate, there is this big hole left in the story as to just why Cindy would be paying for a bogus nanny/babysitter that was not actually needed at all. JMO



I've given it a lot of thought and my opnions of the Anthonys have not changed but I lean more now toward thinking that Cindy and George didn't ask a lot of questions because argueing with Casey wore them down. I think Casey may have been the type to throw out lie after lie after lie until the person listening just gave in. I know there's no excuse for it, on either part but I also know that a liar like that will wear you down until you either give in, give up, or give out. I'm guessing Cindy/George just didn't bother to try to discuss these things with Casey, it was probably easier to just give in to her and after Caylee was born they probably just gave in by rote and only ffought the big battles (like the stealing of $ from the grandparents)

(not the parenting approach I chose but....)

[nc1948]

Excuse me :thumbdown: ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Eyewitness News uncovered new information about who's cashing in on the Casey Anthony case. Sources extremely close to the family told Eyewitness News that the Anthonys have signed a $2 million movie deal with the Lifetime Movie Network.

What about money from Caylee's photos, etc. They haven't worked a day since the 911 call. When they did make appearance on TV they never pleaded for Caylee's safe return. On the Today Show George made sure to give Kid Finders (criminals or have never found a kid but sure like to make money off of them) a plug but no plug for Caylee.
:cursing: MOO

http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

Add- Helpfindcaylee web site, and Caylee Marie Anthony foundation asking for donations. Selling T-shirt and arm bands. (asking that t-shirts be donated-so they could sell them) Begging for donations to search. Haven't seen them search yet. So yes, I do believe they have and are using Caylee to support themselves.

No one has worked in 6 months, electric company does not wait, phone company does not wait, need money to pull around the billboard with the non working phone number and also to buy Cindy water.

And your last sentence about pluggin for KF, but no plea to kidnappers to return Caylee and show her picture was right on.

[legalmania]

I always thought the same thing too! MOO

No, I believe any adult that lives with you and depends on you you can deduct. I believe this comes from SS disability law. If I'm wrong somebody will correct me.

[Neffy]

I don't think Cindy WAS gullible... I don't think she ever *knew* about "she" having a key... it wasn't until Casey said, "REMEMBER MOM... I TOLD YOU..." you know like how when we get older, our kids can try to say they told us something and with our CRS, we don't know for sure if they really did? But we kinda go along with it? Something like that? Maybe?

IMO when Casey said THAT, it was the first time Cindy ever heard it.


Has Casey EVER been asked just what in the heck she was doing while employing the imaginary Nanny to go to her imaginary job? I can't wait to hear her accounting for her time.

[k_can004]

You got that right. Ever see what a two year old looks like eating a TWIX candy/cookie stick YUUUUUUCK! ROFL!


or an oreo cookie for that matter....ewwwww... lol

[AlohaRainbow]

The Anthony's haven't sold Caylee. I don't know where you come up with this kind of stuff. If the meter man has important testimony, it will be less credible if he sells his story first, even though, as you say, he has a right to do so.

less credible about what?
that there was a skull inside the bag that he found?
that the skull and other remains subsequently found were identified as caylee's?

:shrug:

[Neffy]

or an oreo cookie for that matter....ewwwww... lol


Yes, much to my fathers' chagrin I immortilized these moments in pics. LOL

[legalmania]

Add- Helpfindkyle web site, and Kaylee Marie Anthony foundation asking for donations. Selling T-shirt and arm bands. (asking that t-shirts be donated-so they could sell them) Begging for donations to search. Haven't seen them search yet. So yes, I do believe they have and are using Caylee to support themselves.

No one has worked in 6 months, electric company does not wait, phone company does not wait, need money to pull around the billboard with the non working phone number and also to buy Cindy water.

And your last sentence about plugin for KF, but no plea to kidnappers to return Caylee and show her picture was right on.

If they spend it on Caylee's grave and burial I don't mind helping but to pay for Caseys defense. NO

[k_can004]

Yes, much to my fathers' chagrin I immortized these moments in pics. LOL

They are the best... I love snapping "in the moment" pictures

[legalmania]

You can claim an adult up to age 25, only if they are a full time student, unless that adult has been rendered legally disabled, then you can deduct them for as long as you provide more than half their support.

And that's the way it goes. Thank you DT. I put DR because I was thinking about those dinner rolls in the kitchen.

[jammies]

I wouldn't be OK with ANYONE that I had never met having a key to my house and if my daughter gave someone a key to my house without asking first, I would be fit to be tied and raised all kinds of he!! with her and insisted she get the key back. The nanny had no business having a key to their home when they didn't even have her address or phone #. I just cannot believe that Cindy was that gullible! JMO


Cindy isn't that gullible. It's all in the game they play with eachother.

[nc1948]

OMG.. could you imagine the nasty things that would be said about them, if they shared a picture of Caylee with dirt on her face?

I for one would say they looked much more like a normal child than only the posed photos. Yes, we do take posed photos with everyone dress, hair combed and sitting pretty. But the pictures we love the best and show our personality best are the unplanned ones. Like the 3 year grandson who sat down in middle of mud puddle to play after being dressed for church. One of my favorites and I would have shown it before I showed the posed ones. His face is animated and happy.

[desmom]

I learn something new every time I read the forums. I thought you would have to be the legal guardian to deduct a dependant.

I wasn't sure. I hate trying to decipher IRS forms, but it looks like Cindy would have been able to deduct Caylee as a dependent..imo.

Child and Dependent Care Expenses http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p503.pdf Test to Claim the Credit begins on the bottom of page 2.
Qualifying Person Test is on page 3.

Who Qualifies as a Dependent http://irsmind.blogspot.com/2008/01/who-qualifies-as-dependent.html

[bballgrl]

I for one would say they looked much more like a normal child than only the posed photos. Yes, we do take posed photos with everyone dress, hair combed and sitting pretty. But the pictures we love the best and show our personality best are the unplanned ones. Like the 3 year grandson who sat down in middle of mud puddle to play after being dressed for church. One of my favorites and I would have shown it before I showed the posed ones. His face is animated and happy.

How about a first birthday party with a mini chocolate cake just for the birthday child. THAT is always fun (especially with BLUE frosting). I had to wash my kids after cake and ice cream on their respective first birthdays. However, I have lovely photos!

[jerry50]

They could claim both Caylee and Casey as dependents- IMO

In fact more than likely since George was not working Cindy could claim all three. Not sure exactly when he was working and when he was not though.


Cindy and George can file jointly because they are married. You can only claim children Casey's age if they are full time students. As with Caylee, I thyink Cindy would have to prove that Caylee stayed with them more than hlf the year. With Casey sleeping around that may be hard to prove. And generally if audited, they would have to provide detailed records.

[Mamie]

Such as a 6-month old baby being one foot tall?

That was one of my questions I posted last night when I first heard this-----plus the mother was okay with the nanny keeping her son overnight and catching up the next day------just due to traffic (she thought)? And I thought the picture looked phoney too. I do hope they prosecute her and not let her off the hook. There is absolutely no excuse for what she did. I'll bet her parents are proud. I, too, wonder what G & C thought when they heard this. JMO

[legalmania]

LOL OK. I'm pretty sure you're the only one who needs that course, but if it makes you happy, I'll comply. Sometimes I do have a hard time comprehending the stupid stuff some posters come up with. Like your posts, for example. :thumbsup:

Have a nice day! :lol:

Eww that hurt, nice come back JConnolly.

[Neffy]

I wasn't sure. I hate trying to decipher IRS forms, but it looks like Cindy would have been able to deduct Caylee as a dependent..imo.

Child and Dependent Care Expenses http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p503.pdf Test to Claim the Credit begins on the bottom of page 2.
Qualifying Person Test is on page 3.

Who Qualifies as a Dependent http://irsmind.blogspot.com/2008/01/who-qualifies-as-dependent.html

I believe this all to be true. I know someone who claims his girlfriends children as dependants. They live together and he provides more then half of the living expenses. These children get SS as their father is deceased. I don't know the details but I know it can be done.

[PuffDragon]

Hi Lavenia - Afternoon Everyone - I've always had the same feelings about the video they shot of Caylee. It's like a silent movie, they don't even talk to her.

Whenever I'm taking pictures or video of my grandkids, I'm blabbing to them the entire time.

It makes it all seem very sad to me.

I never talk when I'm taking a video. I don't like hearing people talk from behind the camera either. It's like a disembodied voice and it makes me uncomfortable. I hated it when you actually got sound on your movies, I liked it a lot better when there was only film and I could talk all I wanted. Oooops, does that date me a little....?

[legalmania]

They can claim Caylee, since she was under the age of 18, and they provided for more than half her support. They could not claim Casey, because she was over the age of 18 and not a full time student.

That's the way I understand it also. Remember taxes due by April 15.:scared:

[nc1948]

How about a first birthday party with a mini chocolate cake just for the birthday child. THAT is always fun (especially with BLUE frosting). I had to wash my kids after cake and ice cream on their respective first birthdays. However, I have lovely photos!

Those are the best. I guess what I am saying is that I have not seen any pictures of Caylee when she was not perfect. No child is perfectly groomed all the time. May be nothing. May just be Cindy in her perfection did not take or want any photos of Caylee not perfect. I guess there are some Grandmothers like that, but I am the other way, I prefer the spur of the moment photos.

[legalmania]

Those are the best. I guess what I am saying is that I have not seen any pictures of Caylee when she was not perfect. No child is perfectly groomed all the time. May be nothing. May just be Cindy in her perfection did not take or want any photos of Caylee not perfect. I guess there are some Grandmothers like that, but I am the other way, I prefer the spur of the moment photos.

How about fireworks on the fourth of July all those burns, I can still feel the pain.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Baez Team

http://web.anthro.ufl.edu/faculty/Falsetti.shtml
http://www.ufl.edu/spotlight/falsetti.html

[tomsgirl]

I don't think Cindy WAS gullible... I don't think she ever *knew* about "she" having a key... it wasn't until Casey said, "REMEMBER MOM... I TOLD YOU..." you know like how when we get older, our kids can try to say they told us something and with our CRS, we don't know for sure if they really did? But we kinda go along with it? Something like that? Maybe?

IMO when Casey said THAT, it was the first time Cindy ever heard it.

Yeah, now that I think more about it, I think my kids have done that to me on occasion. Things like: Mom, I told you about that, don't you remember? And of course it's too much trouble for me to reach that far back in my memory to argue the subject. LOL I still though, think that the minute she even said that, I would have let loose on her. That's just me! JMO

[OCD4Crime]

I don't post often by had to about this. Bolded by me. It seems Cindy's family is very concerned about her and thinks she & George need to work. Very sad indeed. http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:rGfnSBf17B8J:blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/13.pdf+caylee,+record,+07/14/08&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us Page 39

From: ShirleyMP79@aol.comSent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:33 PMTo: RickA1P@aol.comSubject: LETTERS
DEAR RICK , I READ ALL THE LETTERS. I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT YOU SAID. I KNOW SHE WONT BELIEVE ANY OF US UNTIL SHE SEES THAT LITTLE BODY. OR CASEY SAYS WHERE SHE IS.I MADE HER UPSET THE LAST NOTE THAT I WROTE. SO WHAT DOES SHE THINK WE CAN DO? IF THEY ARE SO SURE CAYLEE IS KIDNAPPED, WHAT DOES SHE THINK WE CAN DO TO FIND HER.- LOOK IN MYRTLE BEACH- OR IN MT.DORA?GEORGE TOLD A REPORTER THAT HE LOST HIS JOB, SO NOW HIS JOB IS TO DRIVE THE CAYLEE BILLBOARD AROUND. I'M ASKING WHERE HE GOT MONEY FOR GAS. HE WAS ON HIS FIRST DAY ON THE JOB, WHEN THEY FOUND OUT CAYLEE WAS MISSING.I'M AFRAID CINDY WILL MESS AROUND AND LOSE HER JOB, MAYBE SHE WILL LOSE HER CREDIBILITY AND THEY MIGHT NOT WANT HER BACK.SHE SHOULD GO BACK TO WORK AND LET THE POLICE HANDLE IT FROM HERE. BUTSHE WONT.THANKS FOR SENDING THE EMAILS. TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER. LOVE MOM

[sunstar]

I wouldn't be OK with ANYONE that I had never met having a key to my house and if my daughter gave someone a key to my house without asking first, I would be fit to be tied and raised all kinds of he!! with her and insisted she get the key back. The nanny had no business having a key to their home when they didn't even have her address or phone #. I just cannot believe that Cindy was that gullible! JMO

I think this whole key to the house thing was thought up after Casey realized some things from the house just might be found with Caylee's body. So in order to pin it on the "nanny" this person had to have a key to the house. MOO

[Lavenia]

I never talk when I'm taking a video. I don't like hearing people talk from behind the camera either. It's like a disembodied voice and it makes me uncomfortable. I hated it when you actually got sound on your movies, I liked it a lot better when there was only film and I could talk all I wanted. Oooops, does that date me a little....?

I never thought of it like that. Not even a giggle or a laugh at a toddler when it's just the 2 of you? I'm just too much of a blithering idiot, I suppose. I did notice Hollywood hasn't called me. :confused:

[legalmania]

I don't post often by had to about this. Bolded by me. It seems Cindy's family is very concerned about her and thinks she & George need to work. Very sad indeed. http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:rGfnSBf17B8J:blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/13.pdf+caylee,+record,+07/14/08&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us Page 39

From: ShirleyMP79@aol.comSent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:33 PMTo: RickA1P@aol.comSubject: LETTERS
DEAR RICK , I READ ALL THE LETTERS. I AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT YOU SAID. I KNOW SHE WONT BELIEVE ANY OF US UNTIL SHE SEES THAT LITTLE BODY. OR CASEY SAYS WHERE SHE IS.I MADE HER UPSET THE LAST NOTE THAT I WROTE. SO WHAT DOES SHE THINK WE CAN DO? IF THEY ARE SO SURE CAYLEE IS KIDNAPPED, WHAT DOES SHE THINK WE CAN DO TO FIND HER.- LOOK IN MYRTLE BEACH- OR IN MT.DORA?GEORGE TOLD A REPORTER THAT HE LOST HIS JOB, SO NOW HIS JOB IS TO DRIVE THE CAYLEE BILLBOARD AROUND. I'M ASKING WHERE HE GOT MONEY FOR GAS. HE WAS ON HIS FIRST DAY ON THE JOB, WHEN THEY FOUND OUT CAYLEE WAS MISSING.I'M AFRAID CINDY WILL MESS AROUND AND LOSE HER JOB, MAYBE SHE WILL LOSE HER CREDIBILITY AND THEY MIGHT NOT WANT HER BACK.SHE SHOULD GO BACK TO WORK AND LET THE POLICE HANDLE IT FROM HERE. BUTSHE WONT.THANKS FOR SENDING THE EMAILS. TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER. LOVE MOM

Thanks OCD That is something seems mom knows Cindy best.

[Lavenia]

How about fireworks on the fourth of July all those burns, I can still feel the pain.

:confused: HUH?! Wth?:ohmy:

[PuffDragon]

Probably telling the other inmates about Zanny the nanny and how she (Casey) was wrongfully convicted. MOO

I'm thinking the other inmates will be pretty good at identifying the kind of person she is, and knowing what she's in there for probably won't be cutting her a lot of slack.

[legalmania]

I never talk when I'm taking a video. I don't like hearing people talk from behind the camera either. It's like a disembodied voice and it makes me uncomfortable. I hated it when you actually got sound on your movies, I liked it a lot better when there was only film and I could talk all I wanted. Oooops, does that date me a little....?

Are you saying there was a time where pictures had no sound. Did you have to learn how to read lips? I can understand though when I hear myself (especially when I've had a couple of drinks) I wish I would shut up.

[bchand]

I never talk when I'm taking a video. I don't like hearing people talk from behind the camera either. It's like a disembodied voice and it makes me uncomfortable. I hated it when you actually got sound on your movies, I liked it a lot better when there was only film and I could talk all I wanted. Oooops, does that date me a little....?

lol just a bit. I understand what you're saying but the way they filmed Caylee always made her look so alone !

[Neffy]

Baez Team

http://web.anthro.ufl.edu/faculty/Falsetti.shtml
http://www.ufl.edu/spotlight/falsetti.html


Thanks Cury! I have no qualms about another specialist trying to find out the COD. I do have problems with Attorney's on the Dream Team. There is nothing a Forensic specialist can do to sway this case IMO.

[tomsgirl]

Has Casey EVER been asked just what in the heck she was doing while employing the imaginary Nanny to go to her imaginary job? I can't wait to hear her accounting for her time.

I have the same questions. Didn't most or all of her friends either have a full time job or going to school full time or both? Who did she see during that time? What did she do? I just have a million questions that I would love to have the answer to. I guess we all do. This family is not the norm and most of us are so we can't figure them out and it bothers us. jmo

[sunstar]

I'm thinking the other inmates will be pretty good at identifying the kind of person she is, and knowing what she's in there for probably won't be cutting her a lot of slack.

I'm thinking the same thing too and she'll wish she was back in her isolated cell. MOO

[MerriMent]

They can claim Caylee, since she was under the age of 18, and they provided for more than half her support. They could not claim Casey, because she was over the age of 18 and not a full time student.

They can claim both as qualifying relatives.

[MerriMent]

lol just a bit. I understand what you're saying but the way they filmed Caylee always made her look so alone !

I doubt Caylee had playmates. I think she was always in the company of adults and in that regard was a very lonely child.

[101Spots]

That's the way I understand it also. Remember taxes due by April 15.:scared:

Unless you file for an extension. Then pay only 90% and delay, delay, delay.......:biggrin:

[OCD4Crime]

I doubt Caylee had playmates. I think she was always in the company of adults and in that regard was a very lonely child.

IIRC she played with Casey's invisible friends Zanny, Zach and Isabelle.

[MerriMent]

IIRC she played with Casey's invisible friends Zanny, Zach and Isabelle.

That's right. The little one was robbed of a normal childhood even when alive. This is a tragedy on so many levels.

[Neffy]

I doubt Caylee had playmates. I think she was always in the company of adults and in that regard was a very lonely child.


C'mon we're talking about a two 1/2 year old. Not quite old enough to make "friend's or have a friends "network". Unless you have family with children that age they're really aren't playgroups in that age range.

This is silly. The only other way she would have been in a group children her age would have been in a daycare environment. My children didn't need day care and I would not classify them as lonely at that age.

[legalmania]

I doubt Caylee had playmates. I think she was always in the company of adults and in that regard was a very lonely child.


She was only two. How many playmates could she have. Unless there was a neighbor with a 2 or 3 year old who didn't work. I know the only friends my kids had at 2 was their brother or sister.

[Mamie]

Oh no not insurance fraud. If Cindy wrote checks to this Zanny than she would have proof, because checks are traceable.

That's right----that's what I'm waiting for-----the treaceable cashed checks. Any kind of hard proof Cindy believed there ever was a nanny. Of course if she paid cash she could still lay claim to her belief, saying that Casey told her the nanny (even with all her money) insisted on getting cash.

I just remembered something. Wasn't there discussion between either LE and Casey or LE and Cindy or maybe Cindy and Casey about how much the nanny charged? Does anyone remember this? How was it answered? I thought I remembered hearing something about that. Maybe it was just a thought in my mind. Anyhow, TIA! JMO

[AlohaRainbow]

They can claim Caylee, since she was under the age of 18, and they provided for more than half her support. They could not claim Casey, because she was over the age of 18 and not a full time student.
you're correct in that they wouldn't be able to claim casey as a "qualifying child", but they theoretically could have claimed casey (as well as caylee) as a "qualifying relative" dependent, who would need to meet the requirements listed below:
Not a qualifying child - The dependent cannot be a qualifying child of another taxpayer.

Gross Income – The dependent earns less than the personal exemption amount during the year. For 2007, this means the dependent earns less than $3,400. [iirc, casey hadn't worked since 2006]

Total Support – You provide more than half of the dependent's total support during the year. [by the time you factor in amounts paid by cindy & george for casey's housing, food, etc, i'm pretty sure they could show more than half... up until casey's incarceration, at which time the state/county or whoever is providing for her support]

Relationship – You are related to the dependent in certain ways. [there is a link in the article that shows the relationships]

Joint Return – If the dependent is married, the dependent cannot file a joint return with his or her spouse.

Citizenship – The dependent must be a citizen or resident alien of the United States, Canada, or Mexico.
http://taxes.about.com/od/dependents/a/Dependents_3.htm

[trich]

Has Casey EVER been asked just what in the heck she was doing while employing the imaginary Nanny to go to her imaginary job? I can't wait to hear her accounting for her time.

She will never have to account or her time.....
She will never take the stand...

IMO the only thing the defense can do is to create doubt.
I am hoping that the citizens in Florida are lots smarter then
those in California and will not fall for all the smoke and mirrors the defense is going to try.

[AlohaRainbow]

I don't think it changes from state-to-state, but HERE, if you support ANYONE in your own household, at least 50% or 6 months, and THAT PERSON does not file an income tax return, YOU can claim them as a dependent and take the deduction. My MIL lives with DH, she does not work, she does not file taxes, so she is claimed as a dependent, along with DD. :)
you're right in that it doesn't change from state-to-state because it's an irs thing. 2 types of dependents for irs purposes: qualifying child and qualifying relative.

[Neffy]

She will never have to account or her time.....
She will never take the stand...

IMO the only thing the defense can do is to create doubt.
I am hoping that the citizens in Florida are lots smarter then
those in California and will not fall for all the smoke and mirrors the defense is going to try.

If there going to use the nanny did it defense first and foremost why was a nanny employed? I'm sure LE's romp thru Universal will be entered into evidence and when the jury hears she had no job right there the nanny story will be suspect let alone no evidence of a nanny existing. OH what a tangled web.

[eastside joe]

I have been looking at Casey's phone records again on the morning of June 16th. She has an outgoing call and an incoming call listed at exactly the same time including the seconds. Trying to figure this one out.


07:45:51 x ………………………………………1-407-619-xxxx 1-407-242-xxxx
07:45:51 x……………………………………….1-407-275-xxxx 1-407-619-xxxx

[Mamie]

I've given it a lot of thought and my opnions of the Anthonys have not changed but I lean more now toward thinking that Cindy and George didn't ask a lot of questions because argueing with Casey wore them down. I think Casey may have been the type to throw out lie after lie after lie until the person listening just gave in. I know there's no excuse for it, on either part but I also know that a liar like that will wear you down until you either give in, give up, or give out. I'm guessing Cindy/George just didn't bother to try to discuss these things with Casey, it was probably easier to just give in to her and after Caylee was born they probably just gave in by rote and only ffought the big battles (like the stealing of $ from the grandparents)

(not the parenting approach I chose but....)

I think you're right, mm, and I know just such a person, so yes it's easier to just give in so that you yourself can have some peace or less stress. Not the route I would have chosen either. I just get tired of Cindy thinking the average person is going to believe the baloney. I mean if they were just giving in, then admit you gave in to Casey because you knew she was lying from the getgo----don't say you believed her. We know they are not stupid but this makes them look stoopid! JMO


Well BBL, gotta go get a mincemeat pie in the oven.

[spiritwolf46]

Just finished reading emails from Rick, Shirley, Cindy and a friend of Shirley's. Very interesting. Scroll down to pg 8

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:rGfnSBf17B8J:blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/files/13.pdf+caylee,+record,+07/14/08&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

Ummm.....reading these are too weird! Is Shirley's friend here in Ohio? I saw somewhere where she was going to an eye Dr. in Ashland? What is totally weird about these letters is that my name is Rene' (mom and dad did not know that this was the male way of spelling it for I am female, sigh), my brothers names are Ryan and Randy AND I was born in Ashland Ohio! It just seemed too weird to read those letters with our names and where I was born.

Have I missed anything in the last few days? I am all over this board looking to see if there was anything significant going on and it looks like there isn't.

Hope everyone had a WONDERFUL Christmas!!!!

[legalmania]

I have been looking at Casey's phone records again on the morning of June 16th. She has an outgoing call and an incoming call listed at exactly the same time including the seconds. Trying to figure this one out.


07:45:51 x ………………………………………1-407-619-xxxx 1-407-242-xxxx
07:45:51 x……………………………………….1-407-275-xxxx 1-407-619-xxxx

Isn't 407 Orlando? She must have dialed the phone rang and answered.

[ConchGirl]

I have been looking at Casey's phone records again on the morning of June 16th. She has an outgoing call and an incoming call listed at exactly the same time including the seconds. Trying to figure this one out.


07:45:51 x ………………………………………1-407-619-xxxx 1-407-242-xxxx
07:45:51 x……………………………………….1-407-275-xxxx 1-407-619-xxxx


I found this online from another board and hope this helps. Click on the tabs for the correct day.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p6Pnw95vqOo-MgZ7Vsp9pYg&gid=0

[MerriMent]

C'mon we're talking about a two 1/2 year old. Not quite old enough to make "friend's or have a friends "network". Unless you have family with children that age they're really aren't playgroups in that age range.

This is silly. The only other way she would have been in a group children her age would have been in a daycare environment. My children didn't need day care and I would not classify them as lonely at that age.

Do you think before you launch your attacks on other posters' opinions?

Caylee was an only child in an all adult household who, instead of going to daycare, was going to a babysitter that LE can't find.

Have you ever heard of a concept called preschool? Sunday School? Park playgrounds? Neighborhood children?

[Cury-us Coyote]

LA's attorney
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live5pm6pm.html

[legalmania]

you're correct in that they wouldn't be able to claim casey as a "qualifying child", but they theoretically could have claimed casey (as well as caylee) as a "qualifying relative" dependent, who would need to meet the requirements listed below:
Not a qualifying child - The dependent cannot be a qualifying child of another taxpayer.

Gross Income – The dependent earns less than the personal exemption amount during the year. For 2007, this means the dependent earns less than $3,400. [iirc, casey hadn't worked since 2006]

Total Support – You provide more than half of the dependent's total support during the year. [by the time you factor in amounts paid by cindy & george for casey's housing, food, etc, i'm pretty sure they could show more than half... up until casey's incarceration, at which time the state/county or whoever is providing for her support]

Relationship – You are related to the dependent in certain ways. [there is a link in the article that shows the relationships]

Joint Return – If the dependent is married, the dependent cannot file a joint return with his or her spouse.

Citizenship – The dependent must be a citizen or resident alien of the United States, Canada, or Mexico.
http://taxes.about.com/od/dependents/a/Dependents_3.htm

I feel I have been very well informed. Thanks.

[PuffDragon]

Cindy never said Zany had a key to the house. She asked Casey if she thought anyone had been in their home to which Casey replied, "I told you I gave Zany a key, remember?" To which Cindy never replied one way or the other.

I believe that what Casey actually said was "I gave her a key...." IIRC she didn't actually say 'Zanny', leaving it open to a 'fill in the blank' interpretation.

[sunstar]

She was only two. How many playmates could she have. Unless there was a neighbor with a 2 or 3 year old who didn't work. I know the only friends my kids had at 2 was their brother or sister.

And didn't Casey just have that one friend (Kristine, I think) who has kids? I agree that friends for children Caylee's age usually come from our friends or family members having kids. MOO

[Neffy]

Do you think before you launch your attacks on other posters' opinions?

Caylee was an only child in an all adult household who, instead of going to daycare, was going to a babysitter that LE can't find.

Have you ever heard of a concept called preschool? Sunday School? Park playgrounds? Neighborhood children?

Attack? LOL! Oh contraire. DO I THINK sounds more of an attack adage. I can return the sentiment. Perhaps it is you that didn't think and consider Caylee's age. I have heard of preschool, Sunday school etc. I believe I'd even posted it. Are you insinuating Caylee never saw another child ever? That's totally different then not having friends.

IF you think she's never seen another child I think that's silly to think that. To think she would have many friends at 2 1/2 I think is silly to.

Thinking something is silly is not an attack. I strongly disagree with your post regarding friends of a child this age.

[trich]

They can claim both as qualifying relatives.



That is why I believe Cindy knew there was no job and no nanny.
If they were claiming Casey and Caylee ....wouldn't they need to see what Casey was or was not making ...in writing.. like in the form of pay stubs and wd-40's ...I mean I would think they would want to do things all legal like.

[legalmania]

Ummm.....reading these are too weird! Is Shirley's friend here in Ohio? I saw somewhere where she was going to an eye Dr. in Ashland? What is totally weird about these letters is that my name is Rene' (mom and dad did not know that this was the male way of spelling it for I am female, sigh), my brothers names are Ryan and Randy AND I was born in Ashland Ohio! It just seemed too weird to read those letters with our names and where I was born.

Have I missed anything in the last few days? I am all over this board looking to see if there was anything significant going on and it looks like there isn't.

Hope everyone had a WONDERFUL Christmas!!!!

Well we know who the A's can claim on their taxes and the meter reader will do a press conference after the first.

[MerriMent]

She was only two. How many playmates could she have. Unless there was a neighbor with a 2 or 3 year old who didn't work. I know the only friends my kids had at 2 was their brother or sister.

Neighbors, pre-school, playdates with children of friends. Caylee didn't have a brother or sister and it does appear to me that she was insulated from the outside world to the extent that she was missing 31 days before anyone knew it.

[legalmania]

And didn't Casey just have that one friend (Kristine, I think) who has kids? I agree that friends for children Caylee's age usually come from our friends or family members having kids. MOO

I don't find it unusual for a two year old to have only one friend. I didn't see Casey leaving her with anybody. I don't see anything I could have said bad about Casey until after June 15th. Except maybe not having a job.

[legalmania]

Neighbors, pre-school, playdates with children of friends. Caylee didn't have a brother or sister and it does appear to me that she was insulated from the outside world to the extent that she was missing 31 days before anyone knew it.

But up until that time did you see anything that would have been a warning sign that she was about to go nuts?

[spiritwolf46]

Well we know who the A's can claim on their taxes and the meter reader will do a press conference after the first.


Hmmm....I wonder what he has to say???

Thanks Legal! :seeya:

[MerriMent]

Attack? LOL! Oh contraire. DO I THINK sounds more of an attack adage. I can return the sentiment. Perhaps it is you that didn't think and consider Caylee's age. I have heard of preschool, Sunday school etc. I believe I'd even posted it. Are you insinuating Caylee never saw another child ever? That's totally different then not having friends.

IF you think she's never seen another child I think that's silly to think that. To think she would have many friends at 2 1/2 I think is silly to.

Thinking something is silly is not an attack. I strongly disagree with your post regarding friends of a child this age.

I never suggested Caylee had never seen another child but I do suggest it's a good idea to ignore your ridiculous rants.

[Neffy]

I don't find it unusual for a two year old to have only one friend. I didn't see Casey leaving her with anybody. I don't see anything I could have said bad about Casey until after June 15th. Except maybe not having a job.


At that age I'd take my children to the park, beach etc. Did they play with other children they met. Yes! Did I get their phone numbers and want to take these people or kids into my home NO!

I had no relatives with the same aged children. So what. I didn't enroll them in preschool until the age of 4. Until then it was my adult family mostly. That is until the next child came along. Not unusual and certainly nothing to be suspect about.

[Neffy]

I never suggested Caylee had never seen another child but I do suggest it's a good idea to ignore your ridiculous rants.

Thank you and likewise :)

[PuffDragon]

Puff, I didn't see the press conference you are talking about, but I'm still laughing about the 6 month old being a foot tall.

Well, semantics........ it might have been a photo op and not a press conference, it's the bit that all the stations were running of the boyfriend crying and upset. He was clearly bewildered. The mother looked blank.
This six-month old also presumably had a (fake) tattoo. What a weird detail to stick in there!!! Why would anybody put any tattoo on an infant, and if there really had been a fake tattoo a kidnapper would immediately wash it off, no? She was just too stupid to pull it off. I hope LE does make her pay, although I don't imagine she has any money. It would be a good object lesson, though, and might be a warning for others not to even think about doing it.

[legalmania]

um, isn't wd-40 a canned lubricant?

You know canned lubricant stuck out at me. I was wondering what you were talking about that lead up to that.

[PuffDragon]

Sitting up straight with a suit on.

And a mohawk.

[legalmania]

And a mohawk.

Whoever has that baby is gonna hate us. Imagine coming home and finding your babys picture all over the news. Your baby is cute if your posting here.

[MerriMent]

You are correct, but Casey wouldn't be a qualifying relative, Caylee would.

How so? I think Casey meets all four of these IRS requirements:


Qualifying Relative
There are four tests that must be met for a person to be your qualifying relative. The four tests are:

1. Not a qualifying child test,

2. Member of household or relationship test,

3. Gross income test, and

4. Support test.


(Age. Unlike a qualifying child, a qualifying relative can be any age. There is no age test for a qualifying relative.)

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p501/ar02.html#en_US_publink100041887

[Rayosunshine]

Another nanny kidnaps another baby!!! But, wait...


http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/2008/12/26/Police-Miami-woman-pulls/1230312490.html

Unbelievable. Imagine her really having a baby in the future??!! She might just be "mother of the year".

I hope they lock her a** up.

[Lavenia]

um, isn't wd-40 a canned lubricant?

She meant MD 20-20. :tonguewag:

[Lavenia]

I think somebody got WD-40 mixed up with W-4.. haha... WD-40 is a lubricant, and it is in a can. I didn't know a better way to say it, except maybe spray lubricant.

Yeah, I think it's secondary to duct tape as usefulness to a guy.

[happygert]

I started taking my twins to pre-school when they were close to 4 years of age. They didn't talk about what they did there, even when asked. Same thing with kindergarten ... what did you do in school today boys, "I don't remember", or some vague response.

I don't find it odd at all that Caylee would talk about a puppy ... most toddlers are infatuated with dogs, puppies, kittens, animals.

I'm not saying there was a nanny, I just don't think it's any big smoking gun that a 2 year old would not have much to say about their day. They live in the moment, not in the past or future.

IMO

My Children never let a day go by without talking about what happened at sitters or school.

[MerriMent]

But up until that time did you see anything that would have been a warning sign that she was about to go nuts?


About to go nuts? I think Casey was displaying plenty of warning signs and George and Cindy instead retreated into a state of denial.

[ConchGirl]

I am praying for Caylee and for everyone on this board who has lost a loved one during this Christmas Season.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/ImmaculateHeartofMary-HailMaryPraye.jpg

[legalmania]

I think somebody got WD-40 mixed up with W-4.. haha... WD-40 is a lubricant, and it is in a can. I didn't know a better way to say it, except maybe spray lubricant.

That is funny. I would have never guessed, although WD-40 is great stuff.

[legalmania]

I am praying for Caylee and for everyone on this board who has lost a loved one during this Christmas Season.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/ImmaculateHeartofMary-HailMaryPraye.jpg

Holy Mother thanks, that's a beautiful picture.

[trich]

um, isn't wd-40 a canned lubricant?

Yes LOL
Sorry W 2....

[MerriMent]

She would have to be a full time student to qualify.... or legally disabled.

That's required to qualify as a child. Because Casey wasn't a student or disabled, she didn't qualify as a child, therefore she met #1 as a qualifying relative:

1. Not a qualifying child test,

[legalmania]

About to go nuts? I think Casey was displaying plenty of warning signs and George and Cindy instead retreated into a state of denial.

Like what?

[trich]

I think somebody got WD-40 mixed up with W-4.. haha... WD-40 is a lubricant, and it is in a can. I didn't know a better way to say it, except maybe spray lubricant.

Yes LOL:laugh:
I meant w-2 form.

[spiritwolf46]

She meant MD 20-20. :tonguewag:


OMG, that it too funny!! Is that stuff even around anymore???

[impartial]

I doubt Caylee had playmates. I think she was always in the company of adults and in that regard was a very lonely child.


Playmates at 2 years old?

Going to the park; going to grammy's house; going to paint, paste and pour classes; going to the pool and beach ... that's what I remember of the years leading up to three years of age.

IMO

[dmh]

They can claim both as qualifying relatives.

But only if Casey dosen't file a tax return. Question is..Did Casey file a tax return?...did the family disscuss how the taxes would be filed? Did they ask for Casey's W2? There is all different ways to file returns...but it needs to be addressed by those filing the tax return. A lot of questions need to be asked before filing a tax return or it's fraud. JMO

[legalmania]

She meant MD 20-20. :tonguewag:

Never tried it but my friend did and it put a hole in his rug in his car after spilling.

[Lavenia]

OMG, that it too funny!! Is that stuff even around anymore???

I don't know! I grew up and got some coin so I don't have to do those awful science experiments with my body anymore! :laugh:

[Lavenia]

Never tried it but my friend did and it put a hole in his rug in his car after spilling.

I have a liver that happened to! :blink:

(J/K! Boone's Farm when I was young.)

[spiritwolf46]

I don't know! I grew up and got some coin so I don't have to do those awful science experiments with my body anymore! :laugh:

OH! ROFLMAO! Well, that is a GOOD THING!

Thank for the laugh! SO good for the soul!

[MerriMent]

It seems to me that Caylee would never have realized any loneliness..you dont miss what you never had, nor know what there was she missed..I did see a very happy child tho in the videos I saw of her playing with Grampa (with toys) nd Grandma (in the pool)..She did indeed not be lacking in the "Things" department.

It also seems that Casey did enjoy Caylee at some point, however, maybe when she got a taste of freedom, boyfriend (TonE), and her clubbing friends, she changed her focus..and planned on de-shackling herself!!..Even Jesse G. mentioned how she (Casey) changed and the person he knew wasnt the Casey thats in jail now! The Casey he knew loved that little girl..Hummmm???

LMS:crying:

The fact remains, nobody was in that child's life who knew she was missing for 31 days. Isolating a child to that extent isn't healthy, I don't care how many toys she had. For all we know, Zanny was Caylee's imaginary playmate.

[Lavenia]

I think the makers of WD-40 have a website listing all its wonderful uses. I think you would be amazed on how this stuff can enhance your life.
:tonguewag:

Don't encourage me you tease. :wink:

[spiritwolf46]

Paste and pour class? What is that?

I was going to ask the same thing. who all ate school paste? DON'T LIE! Come on now!

[legalmania]

Isnt hindsight ALWAYS 100%?...Redflags are always recognized after first hand experience, certainly not recognized if you never dream of a homicidal child or relative!!..JMO there..but no one would ever suspect their loved one of such a thing unless they had a history of such..aka..relatives reporting a relative who they know is capable..as they have already experienced it!!

LMS:scared:

I really don't see any bad signs before June 15th. No arrest, no drinking or drug problem, if there were signs she hid them well. She was lying about the job but a lot of young adults will lie about one thing or another.

[impartial]

Paste and pour class? What is that?



At the YMCA ... classes for 2, 3 and 4 year olds ... introducing them to textures, painting, glue, crafts. Great classes.

IMO

[legalmania]

It went down with Strawberry Hill.

Boones Farm wow, I put it in my VW and it ran.

[MerriMent]

Playmates at 2 years old?

Going to the park; going to grammy's house; going to paint, paste and pour classes; going to the pool and beach ... that's what I remember of the years leading up to three years of age.

IMO

Didn't you also post that you have twins? Unless one was imaginary, I'm not sure the relevance to Caylee's situation. And paste and pour classes? Did Caylee attend any structured activities with other children? I haven't heard of any.

[impartial]

I was going to ask the same thing. who all ate school paste? DON'T LIE! Come on now!


I loved the smell of school paste.

Maybe that's what's wrong with my memory banks.

:blink:

[Cury-us Coyote]

At the YMCA ... classes for 2, 3 and 4 year olds ... introducing them to textures, painting, glue, crafts. Great classes.

IMO

FWIW, HB at Fox 35 reported two separate memorial sites (one for donations and one to place things NOT to be donated). The second/not site is currently the largest. :shrug:

LA's attorney interview will likely be replayed at 6PM and placed online, IMO.

[Neffy]

The fact remains, nobody was in that child's life who knew she was missing for 31 days. Isolating a child to that extent isn't healthy, I don't care how many toys she had. For all we know, Zanny was Caylee's imaginary playmate.


That's because anyone inquiring about Caylees whereabouts she gave them an excuse including Cindy.

So the statement that no one knew she was missing is inaccurate to a point. People inquired and an excuse was given by Casey as to her whereabouts.

Not until push came to shove and Casey was cornered that is visually and physically confronted to produce Caylee did this unravel.

[legalmania]

Didn't you also post that you have twins? Unless one was imaginary, I'm not sure the relevance to Caylee's situation. And paste and pour classes? Did Caylee attend any structured activities with other children? I haven't heard of any.

She was two. She had books and toys it's not like they kept her tied up by the pool. Some people feel more comfortable with their kids by there side.

[Pruddennce]

Has Casey EVER been asked just what in the heck she was doing while employing the imaginary Nanny to go to her imaginary job? I can't wait to hear her accounting for her time.

that Neffy, is my first question from the onset of this tragedy. what was she doing every single day that she said she was going to work. we all know what she was doing when she forwarded copies of bogus 'work emails' to Cindy's webmail. she was planning her nites out *pretending she had to attend a work function/do work in the evening* so that her mother wouldnt nag at her about going out to have fun.

which brings the next question to the forefront: what arrangement did she have with her parents regarding living expenses: its obvious, thru Cindy's shameless brag on her ms that SHE was paying for all of Caylee's necessities. when asked, what was Casey producing as evidence she was contributing somewhat to the household or for Caylee?

so far, as far as we know, her parents turned a blind eye about her so-called employment.

unfortunately, we wont know the answers to these questions because most assuredly Casey wont be taking the stand and her parents will deny or not be grilled on their knowledge of zero employment.

....despite GA's admission in his LE/FBI interviews that he did doubt she had a job.

I think the trial will bring out the fact, NO JOB/NO NO MONEY, NO NEED FOR A BABYSITTER.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[legalmania]

I loved the smell of school paste.

Maybe that's what's wrong with my memory banks.

:blink:

I'm eating some as we speak. Never got over that habit.

[dmh]

The more I think about all this talk about taxes, it makes me wonder if the IRS going to investigate this. Maybe that is why their in debt already? JMO:chicken:

[impartial]

Didn't you also post that you have twins? Unless one was imaginary, I'm not sure the relevance to Caylee's situation. And paste and pour classes? Did Caylee attend any structured activities with other children? I haven't heard of any.



Caylee's activities sounds like pretty much what a lot of toddlers activities are ... going to the park, swimming, going to the mall (except mine, I couldn't handle it with twins).

I didn't start structured activities until the boys were 3.

I found the toddler stage to be much more isolating for the adult than the child. I have a very large family, and their toddlers are pretty much confined to activities with their parents too.

I don't see Caylee going to the park, and with adults (mom, grandparents, mom's friends), as being out of the ordinary for a toddler.

IMO

[jakee]

OMG, that it too funny!! Is that stuff even around anymore???

I finally had to google what the heck you all were talking about. :blushing: Sadly I do remember that well, but TJ Swan was my choice back then. some of the silly wine names.... Easy days, Magic moments.....:biggrin:

What did Lee's lawyer have to say? I missed it. I am catching up on everything.

[Mamie]

But only if Casey dosen't file a tax return. Question is..Did Casey file a tax return?...did the family disscuss how the taxes would be filed? Did they ask for Casey's W2? There is all different ways to file returns...but it needs to be addressed by those filing the tax return. A lot of questions need to be asked before filing a tax return or it's fraud. JMO


I have brought this very point up twice, saying how could G & C NOT KNOW she wasn't working as income tax filing would be a conversation at their house. Glad someone else is bring it to light. JMO

[AlohaRainbow]

FWIW, HB at Fox 35 reported two separate memorial sites (one for donations and one to place things NOT to be donated). The second/not site is currently the largest. :shrug:

LA's attorney interview will likely be replayed at 6PM and placed online, IMO.
interesting about the 2 sites... are they both near the place where her remains were found?

[ConchGirl]

Like what?

RED Flags:

Denying pregnancy when it was obvious
Naming the wrong person as the Daddy (Jesse)
Stealing from Caylee's piggy bank
Stealing Dad's gas from the shed
Stealing from her grandparents
Pretending to have a job and sending fake emails
Blowing through toll booths
Stealing from Cindy to pay her outrageous cell phone bills
Stealing from Amy
Lying about everything
Stealing from Lee & his friends
Stealing from Ryan
Tattoo that says beautiful life after her daughter is missing
Invisible Nanny
Wearing white sunglasses while visiting Jose with binder that said "Media Coverage" instead of Caylee sightings
"high five" with brother
Fusion

Shall I go on? IMO Please feel free to add to my list of red flags.

[martha]

I guess we have not heard from any of the family now since caylee has been found. Oh what a sad christmas this must have been for the a;s. Even tho I think g and c and lee knew from the start that casey had done something to caylee. I think they were hoping she had given her to someone. I think Cindy has been keeping that house hold up all the time she and george has been married. I just don;t like the way Lee acts. George is just a smart pot. He hangs on to cindy for her to keep making a living for them all. I think Lee and c and g got into it is the reason he moved out. I think casey was just letting cindy take care of her and caylee money wise. Casey may have told cindy the night they got into a big fight she would never see caylee again. I bet that is why cindy did not answ her calls. Cindy made up her mind she was not going to pet casey anymore is the reason she did not go find her before the 31 days.George told cindy casey come by on the 24 th but he also told her he and casey had words that day. I bet there was a lot said that day that george did not tell le. jmho

[legalmania]

Was there no leftover turkey?

Just ham I hate pig. I would rather eat glue.

[MerriMent]

Isnt hindsight ALWAYS 100%?...Redflags are always recognized after first hand experience, certainly not recognized if you never dream of a homicidal child or relative!!..JMO there..but no one would ever suspect their loved one of such a thing unless they had a history of such..aka..relatives reporting a relative who they know is capable..as they have already experienced it!!

LMS:scared:

It wasn't hindsight, it was happening real time and had been going on for years: High school drop out, pregnancy, promiscuity, unknown father, arguments, lying, stealing, choking. Clearly a pattern of escalating behavior that screamed for intervention and without it, lead to the death of Caylee.

[impartial]

FWIW, HB at Fox 35 reported two separate memorial sites (one for donations and one to place things NOT to be donated). The second/not site is currently the largest. :shrug:

LA's attorney interview will likely be replayed at 6PM and placed online, IMO.


I really don't understand ... why would people who never met this child be concerned about sending something to memorialize her, and have that item donated for a child that could actually use it and enjoy it.

Oh well, maybe it's just me.

IMO

[legalmania]

RED Flags:

Denying pregnancy when it was obvious
Naming the wrong person as the Daddy (Jesse)
Stealing from Caylee's piggy bank
Stealing Dad's gas from the shed
Stealing from her grandparents
Pretending to have a job and sending fake emails
Blowing through toll booths
Stealing from Cindy to pay her outrageous cell phone bills
Stealing from Amy
Lying about everything
Stealing from Lee & his friends
Stealing from Ryan
Tattoo that says beautiful life after her daughter is missing
Invisible Nanny
Wearing white sunglasses while visiting Jose with binder that said "Media Coverage" instead of Caylee sightings
"high five" with brother
Fusion

Shall I go on? IMO Please feel free to add to my list of red flags.

Wasn't most of that after June 15th?

[missinglink]

A qualifying relative is someone who isnt a qualifying child, in either case Casey would not qualify as either their dependant or for filing head of household status. Trust me, I'm right and you are not.

Sorry to jump in here, but Merriment is correct. Trust me Dinner Troll. I do taxes and Casey qualifies as a qualifying relative as long as she also meets the gross income and support tests. It doesn't matter if she's 22 or 32, or anywhere inbetween.

She isn't a qualifying child but a qualifying relative.

And the Anthonys don't have to even get Casey's permission to claim her as long as the gross income and support tests are met.

Trust me. I know.

[Cury-us Coyote]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/live5pm6pm.html

[dmh]

I have brought this very point up twice, saying how could G & C NOT KNOW she wasn't working as income tax filing would be a conversation at their house. Glad someone else is bring it to light. JMO

Thanks and you are:thumbsup: so right

[legalmania]

None of those things indicate that she would murder their grandaughter.

Right and maybe she said she would pay everybody back.

[martha]

Does Lee have a lawyer now? I really think he needs one. I don;t like the way he acts. not going to be anything new to me if he is in this up to his ears. jmho

[MerriMent]

Didn't you say that you have no children? That might be why you have never heard of this.

No, I didn't say that. :rolleyes:

[spiritwolf46]

I'm eating some as we speak. Never got over that habit.

I am going to SPA (school paste anonymous) :tonguewag:

Is there a link on here to what LA's attorney has said or has he spoke yet?

TIA!

[legalmania]

Sorry to jump in here, but Merriment is correct. Trust me Dinner Troll. I do taxes and Casey qualifies as a qualifying relative as long as she also meets the gross income and support tests. It doesn't matter if she's 22 or 32, or anywhere inbetween.

She isn't a qualifying child but a qualifying relative.

And the Anthonys don't have to even get Casey's permission to claim her as long as the gross income and support tests are met.

Trust me. I know.

This has been back and forth for 3 pages now .It's good to have an expert aboard.

[eastside joe]

that Neffy, is my first question from the onset of this tragedy. what was she doing every single day that she said she was going to work.
best regards,
Pru

I still hold fast to my belief that she was spending a significant amount of time at brother Lee's. However, I feel this information will be a non-issue or factor at trial.

[martha]

I really think casey was on diet pills the ones that have speed in them.the reason is she did not sleep much at all. they do keep you awake.jmho

[MerriMent]

She was two. She had books and toys it's not like they kept her tied up by the pool. Some people feel more comfortable with their kids by there side.

She wasn't by "there (their) side." She was with an imaginary nanny.

[dmh]

George and Cindy will still be able to claim Caylee for the 2008 tax year. They still wouldn't be able to claim Casey, because Casey does not qualify as either a qualifying child or relative.

Casey does not qualify as either a qualifiying child or relative..you are right. But Either Casey OR G&C can claim Caylee, not both. So who is claiming Caylee since Casey was suppose to be a working parent?

[PuffDragon]

Are you saying there was a time where pictures had no sound. Did you have to learn how to read lips? I can understand though when I hear myself (especially when I've had a couple of drinks) I wish I would shut up.

It was a long time before I could get used to having a microphone on the camera, I kept talking and then I'd hate how the video came out because my voice was an intrusion on what I was shooting. Just sayin' , maybe Cindy felt the same way.

[MerriMent]

She would have to be a full time student until the age 25, after the age of 25 (which is actually 24) she would not qualify unless she was legally disabled. Full time student is the key here.

Full time student/disability is key to meeting the IRS test of qualifying child.

Casey doesn't meet the test of qualify child but does meet the test as a qualifying relative.

I posted a link to the IRS site but of course I can't force you to read it.

[legalmania]

Does Lee have a lawyer now? I really think he needs one. I don;t like the way he acts. not going to be anything new to me if he is in this up to his ears. jmho

I don't understand why he is so angry. Why did he rip up Caylee's memorial? I know he's frustrated with all the media but it's his sisters fault they are there.

[dmh]

Sorry to jump in here, but Merriment is correct. Trust me Dinner Troll. I do taxes and Casey qualifies as a qualifying relative as long as she also meets the gross income and support tests. It doesn't matter if she's 22 or 32, or anywhere inbetween.

She isn't a qualifying child but a qualifying relative.

And the Anthonys don't have to even get Casey's permission to claim her as long as the gross income and support tests are met.

Trust me. I know.

You are right...it all depends on the gross income of the relative. So did cindy know how much Casey was making? If Casey was not making enough money, shouldn't cindy be asking questions?

[legalmania]

It was a long time before I could get used to having a microphone on the camera, I kept talking and then I'd hate how the video came out because my voice was an intrusion on what I was shooting. Just sayin' , maybe Cindy felt the same way.

ya I was saying talk talk but then you came on and I thought well that has to be it.

[MerriMent]

Casey does not qualify as either a qualifiying child or relative..you are right. But Either Casey OR G&C can claim Caylee, not both. So who is claiming Caylee since Casey was suppose to be a working parent?


Casey does qualify as relative. Here's the link:

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p501/ar02.html#en_US_publink100041887

[happygert]

Pruddence.

Exactly NO JOB, NO MONEY. Why in the world would Cindy let casey take Caylee for that long of time period? How in the world was casey suppose to feed Caylee. Did that ever occur to cindy? or was cindy just glad they weren't under foot? IMO Cindy is just as jealous of casey as casey was of Caylee. If you look at jailhouse video's when George said hi beautiful to casey, cindy puts her head on Georges shoulder. Cindy did it again when George says to casey hi gorgeous.

[legalmania]

This is crazy you are right you are wrong.

[impartial]

I don't understand why he is so angry. Why did he rip up Caylee's memorial? I know he's frustrated with all the media but it's his sisters fault they are there.


Anger is one of the stages when suffering from the loss of a loved one.

The Anthony's are living out this nightmare with protestors, the media parked in front of their home, the nightly discussions on Nancy Grace, etc.

They are experiencing what no one should ever have to go through, and they are experiencing it in a fishbowl.

IMO

[spiritwolf46]

This is crazy you are right you are wrong.


I agree. Nighty night all! Have a safe and wonderful evening! :seeya:

[legalmania]

Pruddence.

Exactly NO JOB, NO MONEY. Why in the world would Cindy let casey take Caylee for that long of time period? How in the world was casey suppose to feed Caylee. Did that ever occur to cindy? or was cindy just glad they weren't under foot? IMO Cindy is just as jealous of casey as casey was of Caylee. If you look at jailhouse video's when George said hi beautiful to casey, cindy puts her head on Georges shoulder. Cindy did it again when George says to casey hi gorgeous.

Dude, you pay attention to details.

[dwn]

Didn't you say that you have no children? That might be why you have never heard of this.

How can that be?!?!? MerriMent's the Mimi of 5!

:biggrinjester:

[dmh]

I know that they both wouldn't be able to if they file separately. I am thinking they file jointly. They will claim Caylee, since it wasn't true that Casey was working.

That's my point. Cindy should have been asking questions.

[missinglink]

She would have to be a full time student until the age 25, after the age of 25 (which is actually 24) she would not qualify unless she was legally disabled. Full time student is the key here.

Oh my! You know, it really doesn't hurt to admit something when you're wrong, but I suppose it is painful for you!

I know what I'm talking about. You don't. But I still like your other posts and opinions. You're just incorrect when it comes to tax rules and regulations.

Do I need to do your taxes for you? LOL!

[MerriMent]

But you are wrong.

Not according to the link I posted.

It's no surprise you can't admit it when you are proved wrong.

[happygert]

Casey does not qualify as either a qualifiying child or relative..you are right. But Either Casey OR G&C can claim Caylee, not both. So who is claiming Caylee since Casey was suppose to be a working parent?

CA and GA could have claimed both on taxes.. If you support someone for 6 months of longer they can be claimed as a dependant. Regardless of age

[Cury-us Coyote]

Psychology High Point in Caylee Case
Michael Brannon said if Casey Anthony did wind up being the killer, people need to understand first that this sort of thing is extremely rare. Secondly, they need to know that it happens only with a serious disconnect.
...
In the case of a mother killing a child, Brannon said Casey would have had to completely disconnect herself from the notion that her child was even a person.
http://bbn.frn.com/fis/MyFlaNews/storypage.asp?site=mfln2-ip&storyID=7186

[legalmania]

Anger is one of the stages when suffering from the loss of a loved one.

The Anthony's are living out this nightmare with protestors, the media parked in front of their home, the nightly discussions on Nancy Grace, etc.

They are experiencing what no one should ever have to go through, and they are experiencing it in a fishbowl.

IMO

They brought it to themselves. I know that grieving in public is hard but they said to get up and look for Caylee and now she's found they want it all to stop. I don't see it stopping until after the trial.

[eastside joe]

I really think casey was on diet pills the ones that have speed in them.the reason is she did not sleep much at all. they do keep you awake.jmho

Casey's friend from high school Dante Salati said Casey was "straight laced" earlier in life. The evening I still wonder about is June 13th. She attends the hip hop showcase at Fusion with Tony Lazarro. He is apparently dj or hosting this function. At approximately 11:00 pm she receives a text and leaves. She texts Tony at approximately 1:38 am from a location on the other side of town. She then meets up with Tony, may have returned to Fusion and picked him up (he stated under oath he drove with her to Fusion that evening) or met him at his place. Where would Casey go for that amount of time and why would she leave Fusion so abrubtly that evening? My theory is her activity may include drug, escort, or picture activity. IMO

[legalmania]

Yeah.. you're right. its stupid, and I won't insist I'm right anymore. But I might suggest that you not have your taxes prepared by MerriMent.

Now now Dinner Troll, I do have the ability to do them myself. But I will keep that under advisement.

[MerriMent]

How can that be?!?!? MerriMent's the Mimi of 5!

:biggrinjester:


Huh? Are you trying to be funny or just rude? I've never posted my personal info. :no:

[dmh]

CA and GA could have claimed both on taxes.. If you support someone for 6 months of longer they can be claimed as a dependant. Regardless of age

Right..but only if they did not have a qualifing income. Casey said she worked, which we all know is not true, If Casey was working full time, she is not qualified. so someone (casey) was not telling the truth or someone (cindy) never asked questions.

[LindaNJ1216]

Didn't you say that you have no children? That might be why you have never heard of this.


I have a child and I have NEVER heard of this...

[legalmania]

I was a tax preparer for many years. I am currently the parent of an adult child living at home, and in order for me to claim her as a dependent, she MUST be a full time student, and be under the age of 25(which is really 24).

Or disabled.

[MerriMent]

I was a tax preparer for many years. I am currently the parent of an adult child living at home, and in order for me to claim her as a dependent, she MUST be a full time student, and be under the age of 25(which is really 24).

Casey Anthony doesn't qualify as a CHILD, she qualifies as a RELATIVE. Sheesh, read the IRS link.

[legalmania]

I have a child and I have NEVER heard of this...

I have children also and I never heard of this. Of course I've never been to the Y.M.C.A.

[ConchGirl]

None of those things indicate that she would murder their grandaughter.


You are right. But if you don't make your child accountable for bad deeds for their entire life they believe there are not consequences for their actions. Casey knew that whatever she told her parents that they would believe her and therein lies the problem. I think a lot more will come out in the trial. IMO

[LindaNJ1216]

I have children also and I never heard of this. Of course I've never been to the Y.M.C.A.

Me either...I don't even think I have one anywhere near me:confused: