Caylee Anthony - Dec 25/08 -Christmas Day - Part 1

[Oregongal]

Casey's face is much too narrow to be attractive, and she's all gums when she smiles - nothing but great big horse teeth.

I'd like to see pictures of Nancy before surgery.

Pics of Casey while her daughter was missing:

http://www.freewebs.com/equalizeyou/apps/photos/album.jsp?albumID=1958221

Here's one where she often took Caylee

http://www.freewebs.com/equalizeyou/apps/photos/photo.jsp?photoID=10444724&prev=1

:blink: I've never seen many of these pics before...these must be the pics the FBI were talking about when they told George about the pics they'd found online of Casey.
No wonder this dad was sick. He had the stink of death still in his nose and to find out about these pics of his daughter.
>Insert shaking head smilie here<

[need2no]

Thanks. I noticed it in the first phone call with her family, and later in the tearful one she had with her parents asking her questions. She adds as many words as possible, and shoots off on tangents at every opportunity. Cindy was like that in her interview with the police as well, to the extent the police became a little frustrated with her. She didn't stay at her end of the table, but rather cozied right up to the calendar and continued running off on tangents. She wanted the police to document all the lies that Casey told about her whereabouts rather than what the police wanted to know were facts.

By the time Casey is finished with her words, she hasn't actually said anything. There doesn't seem to be a subject in her run on sentences.

One of the things that stood out for me in the jail visits was the way she injected Lee's name whenever she didn't want to go where Cindy or George were trying to get her to go. If you hear the tapes again, pay attention to this...it's almost like if she states she discussed something with Lee, or brings his name in the convo, there is no reason for her to discuss it further.

[Jester]

I see you found this is strange as I did OG.



BTW-thanks!

Do you have a link ... I looked, but no music. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

[need2no]

:blink: I've never seen many of these pics before...these must be the pics the FBI were talking about when they told George about the pics they'd found online of Casey.
No wonder this dad was sick. He had the stink of death still in his nose and to find out about these pics of his daughter.
>Insert shaking head smilie here<

OG these pics have been 'out there' for a good while, and I would assume G & C have seen them. The impression I got from the FBI interview is the 1200 they have are much worse than these. JMO

[Jester]

:blink: I've never seen many of these pics before...these must be the pics the FBI were talking about when they told George about the pics they'd found online of Casey.
No wonder this dad was sick. He had the stink of death still in his nose and to find out about these pics of his daughter.
>Insert shaking head smilie here<

They've been up for a long time. One of Casey's inner circle finally spoke her mind. I wondered if Casey didn't mess with her boyfriend or do something else to really offend her. She doesn't hold back, but was close enough to Casey to be snapping shots of her beside the car. There's nothing attractive in Casey once you get the bigger picture.

[need2no]

Do you have a link ... I looked, but no music. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.

No, I tried to google earlier but couldn't locate it-sorry.

[Oregongal]

I see you found this is strange as I did OG.



BTW-thanks!

Absolutely dear friend!
:wub:

Still would like a link to this. I have several windows open, don't really want to go looking up anything if it's not where I think it is.
Mallory, you still here?
Link please.

[Jester]

One of the things that stood out for me in the jail visits was the way she injected Lee's name whenever she didn't want to go where Cindy or George were trying to get her to go. If you hear the tapes again, pay attention to this...it's almost like if she states she discussed something with Lee, or brings his name in the convo, there is no reason for her to discuss it further.

Interesting observation. I missed that, but now that you mention it, I do remember something like that. Will look for it next time ... thanks.

What would this mean? I guess she defers to Lee whenever she can't face the situation? Lee must have been really frustrated dealing with her lying when they were growing up.

[Jester]

No, I tried to google earlier but couldn't locate it-sorry.

Any idea where the words to the song came from? I looked at the site, and it's just some pictures of Caylee ...

http://www.helpfindcaylee.blogspot.com/

http://helpfindcaylee.usualbeings.com/help.html

[need2no]

Absolutely dear friend!
:wub:

Still would like a link to this. I have several windows open, don't really want to go looking up anything if it's not where I think it is.
Mallory, you still here?
Link please.

:wub:

OG-
I posted about this before, but you may have missed it...if you've still got the pics window open...check out the pic with casey in bed with TL, with the guy laying on the floor. Ok, now look at the dresser (or whatever it is) on the left of the pic. Notice the angels statues and 4 PINK candles? I wonder if casey bought this after Caylee died as some sort of memorial. I highly doubt TonE purchased angels and pink candles to decorate his sparce bedroom.

[Oregongal]

OG these pics have been 'out there' for a good while, and I would assume G & C have seen them. The impression I got from the FBI interview is the 1200 they have are much worse than these. JMO

I guess I'm slow. I heard about them, but have never seen a link to them, or maybe missed the day it was posted. This is the first I've seen.
I am not naive, but if this were my daughter....don't even ask how I'd feel or what I'd do to her.
:cursing:
Especially if she was charged with the murder of her child.
I have to admit, that if G & C have seen these, it gives me a WHOLE nother reason not to like them.
Oooops, I swore I would say nothing against them on Christmas Day....I'll just pretend I'm on the east coast...not Christmas day any more.

[need2no]

Any idea where the words to the song came from? I looked at the site, and it's just some pictures of Caylee ...

http://www.helpfindcaylee.blogspot.com/

http://helpfindcaylee.usualbeings.com/help.html


Didn't the poster say it was Caylee's MySpace? I remember seeing one (MS) earllier in this case.

[Jester]

Agree. She would have been way better off to have confessed. Casey...sorry. "Beautiful"......you didn't draw the long straw. Freakshow.

Casey also has a bit of superiority attitude. That won't serve her well in her new home. She looks down her nose at people in jail.

[Bird]

Thanks. I noticed it in the first phone call with her family, and later in the tearful one she had with her parents asking her questions. She adds as many words as possible, and shoots off on tangents at every opportunity. Cindy was like that in her interview with the police as well, to the extent the police became a little frustrated with her. She didn't stay at her end of the table, but rather cozied right up to the calendar and continued running off on tangents. She wanted the police to document all the lies that Casey told about her whereabouts rather than what the police wanted to know were facts.

By the time Casey is finished with her words, she hasn't actually said anything. There doesn't seem to be a subject in her run on sentences.


So true. Good observations! And like many compulsive liars (all sociopaths are), Casey is over-emphatic whenever she's answering a question with a lie, as if she believes that something like "Yes, absolutely, without a doubt" sounds truer than a simple "yes." There are over-emphatic answers all through those tapes whenever Casey talks about Caylee or Zanny. Even before I'd learned a lot about this case, when I first heard the speech patterns on those tapes I knew she was lying.

[Oregongal]

Interesting observation. I missed that, but now that you mention it, I do remember something like that. Will look for it next time ... thanks.

What would this mean? I guess she defers to Lee whenever she can't face the situation? Lee must have been really frustrated dealing with her lying when they were growing up.

I noticed it right off the bat. Then I kept thinking, well I saw the tapes of her and Lee and she didn't say much of anything to him.
Then I thought maybe she had mailed him something, but the timing was wrong for that as well.
You may be right Jester with her defering to Lee...etc. He is her older brother. Now I'm thinking how they had their time together July 16 waiting for LE to show, while Cindy was outside....what did she REALLY tell him?
It's late, my mind is wandering, but also wondering.

[Jester]

:wub:

OG-
I posted about this before, but you may have missed it...if you've still got the pics window open...check out the pic with casey in bed with TL, with the guy laying on the floor. Ok, now look at the dresser (or whatever it is) on the left of the pic. Notice the angels statues and 4 PINK candles? I wonder if casey bought this after Caylee died as some sort of memorial. I highly doubt TonE purchased angels and pink candles to decorate his sparce bedroom.

I agree, he's doesn't look like the pink candles and angels kind of guy.

To think she gave up her daughter, her freedom, her home, and her life to enjoy once month of life with Anthony L ... and the other guy passed out on the bedroom floor.

[need2no]

I guess I'm slow. I heard about them, but have never seen a link to them, or maybe missed the day it was posted. This is the first I've seen.
I am not naive, but if this were my daughter....don't even ask how I'd feel or what I'd do to her.
:cursing:
Especially if she was charged with the murder of her child.
I have to admit, that if G & C have seen these, it gives me a WHOLE nother reason not to like them.
Oooops, I swore I would say nothing against them on Christmas Day....I'll just pretend I'm on the east coast...not Christmas day any more.

If I'm not mistaken... that site was taken down (pics removed) for a while. I'd love to know who is the owner of the site and pics...she/he must really have it in for casey. :tongue:

I don't doubt the A's have checked out everything on the internet, and didn't George even admit to the FBI agent he had seen 'the' pics....and that's when the agent told him they had found 1200 worse than what he has seen.

LOL...east coast....2:19 am Dec. 26 here, so you're cool.

[Oregongal]

Any idea where the words to the song came from? I looked at the site, and it's just some pictures of Caylee ...

http://www.helpfindcaylee.blogspot.com/

http://helpfindcaylee.usualbeings.com/help.html

OK, it's on the second link....helpfindcaylee....thanks for looking this up Jester. It's on the little media player.

Why oh why did they put this on this site?
I find this sacriligeous (sp?) at worst, totally inappropriate at best.

[Jester]

I guess I'm slow. I heard about them, but have never seen a link to them, or maybe missed the day it was posted. This is the first I've seen.
I am not naive, but if this were my daughter....don't even ask how I'd feel or what I'd do to her.
:cursing:
Especially if she was charged with the murder of her child.
I have to admit, that if G & C have seen these, it gives me a WHOLE nother reason not to like them.
Oooops, I swore I would say nothing against them on Christmas Day....I'll just pretend I'm on the east coast...not Christmas day any more.

They have to have seen these photos. Cindy has been saying all along that the pictures were taken before Caylee was missing, but the court documents made it clear that the pictures were taken afterwards.

[Jester]

Didn't the poster say it was Caylee's MySpace? I remember seeing one (MS) earllier in this case.

thank you

http://www.myspace.com/cayleeismissing

[need2no]

I agree, he's doesn't look like the pink candles and angels kind of guy.

To think she gave up her daughter, her freedom, her home, and her life to enjoy once month of life with Anthony L ... and the other guy passed out on the bedroom floor.

Sick huh,

and.... IMO TonE isn't even a hottie, he must have something that's not obvious. (???) What really makes it even more disgusting is she had known him for such a brief time, and kept her other options open...that doesn't ring of head over heals think I'll kill my child to get her out of the way in love to me.

[Oregongal]

:wub:

OG-
I posted about this before, but you may have missed it...if you've still got the pics window open...check out the pic with casey in bed with TL, with the guy laying on the floor. Ok, now look at the dresser (or whatever it is) on the left of the pic. Notice the angels statues and 4 PINK candles? I wonder if casey bought this after Caylee died as some sort of memorial. I highly doubt TonE purchased angels and pink candles to decorate his sparce bedroom.

I did miss it before and no I don't still have the window open.
I'll go back.

[need2no]

thank you

http://www.myspace.com/cayleeismissing

Thank you, I had found another one when I googled, but it didn't have the music....you found the correct one.

[need2no]

They have to have seen these photos. Cindy has been saying all along that the pictures were taken before Caylee was missing, but the court documents made it clear that the pictures were taken afterwards.


Yes, and George said casey was pregnant when the pics were taken.:ohmy:

[Jester]

So true. Good observations! And like many compulsive liars (all sociopaths are), Casey is over-emphatic whenever she's answering a question with a lie, as if she believes that something like "Yes, absolutely, without a doubt" sounds truer than a simple "yes." There are over-emphatic answers all through those tapes whenever Casey talks about Caylee or Zanny. Even before I'd learned a lot about this case, when I first heard the speech patterns on those tapes I knew she was lying.

Many times people strive to say as much as necessary with as few words as possible - or at least that's one writing style. Casey does the opposite, which means she's trying to say as little as possible with as many words as she can find. I don't like people who say a lot of words, but mean nothing, and I really don't like listening to Casey. However, at times, I strain to separate one word from another; a fast talking trait she no doubt developed as she mastered the art of ensuring she is not interrupted. Cindy was good at that too. The police could hardly get a word in once Cindy started her stories.

[BobbisAngel]

I am sure Casey would, as she is looking at life in prison w/o parole. No more parties & bars, multiple boyfriends, shopping (with other peoples moey)..etc.

But nothing can bring Caylee back now. It is still hard for me to believe that she intentionally killed Caylee, but that duct tape really has me stumped.

:huh: :confused:


The way Casey is wired it wouldn't surprise me if she doesn't blame Caylee for her being in jail and headed for prison. I really can't see her missing Caylee. I would imagine that all of Casey's thoughts are focused on Casey. If she had had any feelings for Caylee she wouldn't have murdered her. She would have put Caylee first in her life and been a loving mother to her.

I would imagine that both George and Cindy are pretty numb right now. The loss of Caylee probably feels pretty surreal. They have probably skipped Christmas this year as they don't have any other children that they have to try to get though Christmas for. No, Christmas will never be the same for them. Maybe if Lee has children some day that will help but there will always be a hole in their hearts that can't be filled by anyone but little Caylee along with memorys of her second Christmas when she was just old enough to tear the paper off her presents while they watched with love and laughter. My heart goes out to them. This has to be the most painful thing that could ever happen to them and it can't be fixed. Bless them both.

[Oregongal]

:wub:

OG-
I posted about this before, but you may have missed it...if you've still got the pics window open...check out the pic with casey in bed with TL, with the guy laying on the floor. Ok, now look at the dresser (or whatever it is) on the left of the pic. Notice the angels statues and 4 PINK candles? I wonder if casey bought this after Caylee died as some sort of memorial. I highly doubt TonE purchased angels and pink candles to decorate his sparce bedroom.

Ok, went back and looked. I do see the angels and candles.
I also doubt TonyE would have that kind of deco in his room.
Could very well be a sort of memorial for Caylee from Casey.
Maybe her way of trying to ease her soul?
I honestly don't know. As unfeeling and consciousless as she is. I would really like to know the date of this pic.
If it was within a few days of the 15th, which is when I feel she killed Caylee, I don't believe George's story, I can almost see it. She kills her, goes out and spends someone's $$ on these trinkets. Sets them up in the love and party room and that's the end of it for her.
She thinks she's done something wonderful for Caylee. After that, she never thinks of Caylee again, doesn't really see those angels and candles.
Sick and twisted.

[Jester]

Sick huh,

and.... IMO TonE isn't even a hottie, he must have something that's not obvious. (???) What really makes it even more disgusting is she had known him for such a brief time, and kept her other options open...that doesn't ring of head over heals think I'll kill my child to get her out of the way in love to me.

He's a DJ, and maybe a musician wannabe? He's not hot. His face is too wide, or roundish in the wrong places. Hers is too skinny.

She was always hedging her bets with men. She popped into bed with him, and two weeks later moved in with him. Wasn't it a 6 weeks affair? She was most likely scheming to move to NY with him. He gave her his car while he was away for a week, and his roommate told him to wife her up because she cooked, cleaned, supposedly had a real job, supposedly had a nanny, and supposedly was attending college. Her mother was also supposedly going to give her the house.

Wasn't she looking on the website in March, and isn't that before she hooked up with him?

[Jester]

I did miss it before and no I don't still have the window open.
I'll go back.

Try this

http://www.freewebs.com/equalizeyou/apps/photos/photo.jsp?photoID=10444724&prev=1

[need2no]

Ok, went back and looked. I do see the angels and candles.
I also doubt TonyE would have that kind of deco in his room.
Could very well be a sort of memorial for Caylee from Casey.
Maybe her way of trying to ease her soul?
I honestly don't know. As unfeeling and consciousless as she is. I would really like to know the date of this pic.
If it was within a few days of the 15th, which is when I feel she killed Caylee, I don't believe George's story, I can almost see it. She kills her, goes out and spends someone's $$ on these trinkets. Sets them up in the love and party room and that's the end of it for her.
She thinks she's done something wonderful for Caylee. After that, she never thinks of Caylee again, doesn't really see those angels and candles.
Sick and twisted.


Ah, you just described my impression to a tee...go out purchase angels and candles (on someone else's dime)...I did my duty and paid my respects to Caylee...glad that's taken care of, now on with the beautiful life...........

I hope LE noticed these items and asked TonE when they appeared. Way back when I first saw this in the pic I considered emailing LE about this. It could be very telling.

[Oregongal]

Sick huh,

and.... IMO TonE isn't even a hottie, he must have something that's not obvious. (???) What really makes it even more disgusting is she had known him for such a brief time, and kept her other options open...that doesn't ring of head over heals think I'll kill my child to get her out of the way in love to me.

I agree, TonE looks like a thug to me. Not even someone my dd in her worst days....and she had some...would have anything to do with.
Course, I, as well as she would NEVER kill our child for a man.
Even if he had a not so obvious something. There are lots of BOB's out there to take care of that need.
:lol:

[Jester]

Yes, and George said casey was pregnant when the pics were taken.:ohmy:

Casey was drunk and pregnant that often? That doesn't sound right.

Caylee would have had more symptoms of fetal alcohol syndrome if Casey did that. Wasn't Casey still in high school when she was pregnant?

There is one video of Caylee staring out the window too long, in my opinion. Someone mentioned that she looked like a neglected child, and that video made me wonder why she wasn't interacting with the person with the camera. Two year olds love to interact with people over staring out a window any day.

Many of the pictures were taken after the murder.

[need2no]

He's a DJ, and maybe a musician wannabe? He's not hot. His face is too wide, or roundish in the wrong places. Hers is too skinny.

She was always hedging her bets with men. She popped into bed with him, and two weeks later moved in with him. Wasn't it a 6 weeks affair? She was most likely scheming to move to NY with him. He gave her his car while he was away for a week, and his roommate told him to wife her up because she cooked, cleaned, supposedly had a real job, supposedly had a nanny, and supposedly was attending college. Her mother was also supposedly going to give her the house.

Wasn't she looking on the website in March, and isn't that before she hooked up with him?


and she supposedly had 15K (I believe that was the amount) in the bank. IIRC she first met TonE at a party he invited her to in May, after 'meeting her' online. So I guess 6-8 weeks tops with him being gone one of the weeks. I wondered if she was interested in moving to NY, or anywhere to get away from Cindy...even if she didn't expect the relationship with TonE to last.

And yes, the missing children and other websites were searched in March, the month she turned 22.

[Oregongal]

Try this

http://www.freewebs.com/equalizeyou/apps/photos/photo.jsp?photoID=10444724&prev=1

Thanks Jester, got it.
Actually, I've now put them in my faves to show my dd tomorrow.
Not for me....yuck....but she has at her age, barely 28, been able to give me alot of insight and some education :ohmy: into this younger world.
I can tell you that she thought TonE looked like quote "creep, crackhead" when she saw his pic. And of course thinks Casey is a "crack ho".
Even when I told her there was no evidence of her doing drugs, she said...yea, right.
:tonguewag:
That's my daughter, she calls em as she sees em.

[need2no]

Casey was drunk and pregnant that often? That doesn't sound right.

Caylee would have had more symptoms of fetal alcohol syndrome if Casey did that. Wasn't Casey still in high school when she was pregnant?

There is one video of Caylee staring out the window too long, in my opinion. Someone mentioned that she looked like a neglected child, and that video made me wonder why she wasn't interacting with the person with the camera. Two year olds love to interact with people over staring out a window any day.

Many of the pictures were taken after the murder.

George told a reporter, (interviewed at the white donation tent), that the pics were made when casey was pregnant, which I assumed meant preg. with Caylee. Why he would think that sounded good, I do not know.

I think she was out of school when she got pg-she would have been pg at 19. I believe in that same interview George stated casey didn't smoke or drink. He said she would stop by the hang outs where her friends were (with Caylee), just to say hi and chat briefly...then leave with Caylee.

I don't know if I've seen the pic of Caylee looking out the window, but I've seen some that didn't sit well with me.

[Jester]

Ok, went back and looked. I do see the angels and candles.
I also doubt TonyE would have that kind of deco in his room.
Could very well be a sort of memorial for Caylee from Casey.
Maybe her way of trying to ease her soul?
I honestly don't know. As unfeeling and consciousless as she is. I would really like to know the date of this pic.
If it was within a few days of the 15th, which is when I feel she killed Caylee, I don't believe George's story, I can almost see it. She kills her, goes out and spends someone's $$ on these trinkets. Sets them up in the love and party room and that's the end of it for her.
She thinks she's done something wonderful for Caylee. After that, she never thinks of Caylee again, doesn't really see those angels and candles.
Sick and twisted.

Totally off topic, but I kept trying to pronounce your name in my head, and seeing oregano, or octagonal, finally, Oregon. Sheesh.

[Jester]

Ah, you just described my impression to a tee...go out purchase angels and candles (on someone else's dime)...I did my duty and paid my respects to Caylee...glad that's taken care of, now on with the beautiful life...........

I hope LE noticed these items and asked TonE when they appeared. Way back when I first saw this in the pic I considered emailing LE about this. It could be very telling.

That seems so cold.

[need2no]

I agree, TonE looks like a thug to me. Not even someone my dd in her worst days....and she had some...would have anything to do with.
Course, I, as well as she would NEVER kill our child for a man.
Even if he had a not so obvious something. There are lots of BOB's out there to take care of that need.
:lol:

I agree, not appealing at all...and I hated the video of him grinning as he walked down the hall.

Isn't that the truth, lots of Bob's...and you can keep your child too!

[VII]

....... snip
goes out and spends someone's $$ on these trinkets. Sets them up in the love and party room and that's the end of it for her.
She thinks she's done something wonderful for Caylee. After that, she never thinks of Caylee again, doesn't really see those angels and candles.
Sick and twisted.

just thinkin' ...
(as I head back to find the link your talking about)

perhaps she took the angel and candles form her parents home?

[need2no]

That seems so cold.

and heartless..but nothing compares to murdering her precious daughter..if she could do that, the rest is small beans in comparison.

[need2no]

just thinkin' ...
(as I head back to find the link your talking about)

perhaps she took the angel and candles form her parents home?


I considered that, but don't you think Cindy would have missed them and asked where they were? How would she explain taking them to TonE's apartment when Cindy supposedly didn't even know about TonE?

[Jester]

I agree, TonE looks like a thug to me. Not even someone my dd in her worst days....and she had some...would have anything to do with.
Course, I, as well as she would NEVER kill our child for a man.
Even if he had a not so obvious something. There are lots of BOB's out there to take care of that need.
:lol:

I think Casey was planning this when she researched chloroform in March. Did she know Anthony L. at that time? I thought they only knew each other for 6 weeks. Anyone know when Casey met him?

If she was researching ways to murder before she met him, then he could have been little more than the man that tipped her towards murder.

If she had met a man that loved children, she would have rejected him.

[Oregongal]

Totally off topic, but I kept trying to pronounce your name in my head, and seeing oregano, or octagonal, finally, Oregon. Sheesh.

:lol::lol:
Just call me OG!
And how many glasse of wine have you had?
:lol:

[Oregongal]

That seems so cold.

Yep, very cold.
Casey is very cold...hearted.

[Jester]

and she supposedly had 15K (I believe that was the amount) in the bank. IIRC she first met TonE at a party he invited her to in May, after 'meeting her' online. So I guess 6-8 weeks tops with him being gone one of the weeks. I wondered if she was interested in moving to NY, or anywhere to get away from Cindy...even if she didn't expect the relationship with TonE to last.

And yes, the missing children and other websites were searched in March, the month she turned 22.

So she was thinking murder before they met, and he had little to do with the major decision. He was a trigger that she was looking for. Any guy with an exciting, fast paced life would do. Drugs, beer, music, parties ... that's what Casey wanted - the faster life.

[Oregongal]

I agree, not appealing at all...and I hated the video of him grinning as he walked down the hall.

Isn't that the truth, lots of Bob's...and you can keep your child too!

:lol:
I can tell it's getting silly time....I've probably had one too many glasses of wine.
I'm LMAO here.

[need2no]

I think Casey was planning this when she researched chloroform in March. Did she know Anthony L. at that time? I thought they only knew each other for 6 weeks. Anyone know when Casey met him?

If she was researching ways to murder before she met him, then he could have been little more than the man that tipped her towards murder.

If she had met a man that loved children, she would have rejected him.

She met TonE in May, IIRC.

[need2no]

:lol:
I can tell it's getting silly time....I've probably had one too many glasses of wine.
I'm LMAO here.

I could use one more, but my typing hands and my eyes say nooooo. :biggrin: And it's past 3am...........

[need2no]

So she was thinking murder before they met, and he had little to do with the major decision. He was a trigger that she was looking for. Any guy with an exciting, fast paced life would do. Drugs, beer, music, parties ... that's what Casey wanted - the faster life.

I think so to...she was researching and considering her options. Remember the 'get to know me' website she set up, and then seemed to abandon..think I kept the link somewhere, but the site is probably gone now. It would seem when she turned 22 in March something snapped for her...she wanted a way out, Cindy was controlling her every move, and loved Caylee too much to suit casey....and along came TonE and the party childless crowd. Straw broke the camel's back.

[Oregongal]

I think Casey was planning this when she researched chloroform in March. Did she know Anthony L. at that time? I thought they only knew each other for 6 weeks. Anyone know when Casey met him?

If she was researching ways to murder before she met him, then he could have been little more than the man that tipped her towards murder.

If she had met a man that loved children, she would have rejected him.

I agree and think Casey was planning this for a long while.
No, I don't think she knew TonE back in March. I think she was with Richardo then. Who she slept with along with Caylee in the same bed.
One of those nights, Caylee mysteriously disappeared in the night.
I don't think TonE was the catylyst to her murder, he was just the next in line.
And don't forget she had that William guy all lined up to take TonE's place. After Caylee was already gone.
I don't think any of her 'boyfriends' had a thing to do with her decision to kill her daughter. She just wanted to be free to have those boyfriends without a daughter. Period. Her pattern was set and Caylee was a piece of that pattern that didn't fit.

[Oregongal]

So she was thinking murder before they met, and he had little to do with the major decision. He was a trigger that she was looking for. Any guy with an exciting, fast paced life would do. Drugs, beer, music, parties ... that's what Casey wanted - the faster life.

Yep. Tho I don't think it was Tone that was the trigger. I think it was Cindy.

[Oregongal]

I could use one more, but my typing hands and my eyes say nooooo. :biggrin: And it's past 3am...........

You night owl you!
I'm feeling the same, you have no idea how many times I've hit the backspace to correct my fingers.
And my eyes...well, you know.
:biggrin:
I have about 3 swallows of wine left, just took my sleep meds...
If I suddenly disappear......;)

[Shades]

What do we actually know about the duct tape??
What has been released by LE??
There was some talk about soft tissue attached to the
duct tape, but I think that has since been ruled out....
Thanks so much everyone, for keeping us all up-to-date
on the facts.......
God Bless Caylee.....RIP Lil' Angel

[need2no]

You night owl you!
I'm feeling the same, you have no idea how many times I've hit the backspace to correct my fingers.
And my eyes...well, you know.
:biggrin:
I have about 3 swallows of wine left, just took my sleep meds...
If I suddenly disappear......;)

Yep, and this night owl is now going to try and get some rest...it's been a long day, so if you disappear I'll never know my friend. :smile:


Good night OG and all still here, hope to catch ya'll on the board tomorrow.

[Oregongal]

Is it actual video, or a picture? And do you have a link....not saying you have to provide a link, but just curious to look at it......

My sister is big on video recording and taking pictures of my niece and nephew.....neither are neglected.....

oh and if it is video does it have sound (not music, but original sound).....I've seen video of my niece in particular, and pictures where as much of a ham as she is in front of the camera where we have pictures of her looking out the window.....you know looking out at the dog or a duck might be in the yard and though she might normally be a ham, something else grabs her attention much more than a camera in her face.

I'm not trying to argue...and your conclusions are just as valid as mine, but I'd like to view such just to see what feel I get from it as well.....

And if anyone else has that link I'd really appreciate it. TYIA

Hey Nar, thought you were out for the night.
I don't know about what you asked since I wasn't the one who posted about it.
I'd be interested in that as well.

[Oregongal]

Yep, and this night owl is now going to try and get some rest...it's been a long day, so if you disappear I'll never know my friend. :smile:


Good night OG and all still here, hope to catch ya'll on the board tomorrow.

Good night friend, I'm right behind you.
Don't worry, I won't really disappear.
:wub:
And to all who are here....Good night.
I hope you all had a good day and pray you have a better night.
Sleep well everyone.
Merry Christmas.
:wub:

[Oregongal]

I went to sleep, and woke up.....lately that seems to be happening all too frequently......it's my sinuses.....we were around 9 degrees F a couple days ago, and I think today it was like 52 degrees F.........

I do live in a house and not outside :) but....

just a theory but I think the atmospheric pressure is playing havoc with my sinuses.

Sorry for you Nar, I have the same prob. My head is a living barometer.
I hope you can get back to sleep and will sleep well.
I'm out for the night.
See you tomorrow.
:seeya:

[eastside joe]

If you followed this case from ground zero, you may recognize the motivation surrounding this descipable, diabolical, crime was fueled in large part by the Casey vs. Cindy Never Ending Battle Royal that apparently existed since Casey was in her middle school years. IMO This crime was committed by Casey to satisfy her own intense desire to punish her mother Cindy as a result of their June 15th argument/fight.

IMO.

[funkyflower]

What do we actually know about the duct tape??
What has been released by LE??
There was some talk about soft tissue attached to the
duct tape, but I think that has since been ruled out....
Thanks so much everyone, for keeping us all up-to-date
on the facts.......
God Bless Caylee.....RIP Lil' Angel




Dr G said there was no soft tissue left.
Duct tape is a rumor, however, likely a true one...as to where and how it was used....not sure yet.

[courtsinsession]

Very true nick, there are many people who are successful and admired in our society that are socios, yet have not committed any crimes per say. They often do way better than others because they are able to manipulate with no conscience or empathy.
So far manipulation of others to gain what is wanted (material or psychologically) is not a crime.


:wink:


I think the type of people you are referring to are called Politicians

[zinnia]

If you followed this case from ground zero, you may recognize the motivation surrounding this descipable, diabolical, crime was fueled in large part by the Casey vs. Cindy Never Ending Battle Royal that apparently existed since Casey was in her middle school years. IMO This crime was committed by Casey to satisfy her own intense desire to punish her mother Cindy as a result of their June 15th argument/fight.

IMO.

I agree with the NEBR with Cindy and I'm sure it was one of many many power struggles. I am not sure yet if it was an accident or not.
I think Casey thought about being rid of all the people in the way of her partying even to the point of looking up different ways to do it. But there is a niggling doubt that Caylees actual death was planned. I think something happened; pool accident, grabed her around the throat like Cindy did to her, drugs. Her body had no broken bones/head injury so it wasn't a beating that could be proven. Casey paniced and did like she had done her whole life and tried to hide it. Ignore it happened, pretend another drama that she was the star in. She finally broke Moms favorite thing which would be thrilling, powerful and frightening.
She won the NEBR.
I find in interesting that she could shop for herself so easilyafterwards. Movies, Target, that shows a dissconnect from any quilt or thought of what had happened. She knew that she only had X amount of time before the sh*t hit the fan; if she had planned it then she could have been gone without many questions but instead she went and partied. Had the life she thought she wanted until Cindy caught up with her. I have wondered about the "one more day" comment and if realized she had better get out of town. Cindy might have realized it too and so called the police.
All just my theroy, JMO

[bonniez45]

on NG cowboy man stated after cindy had casey in the throat hold she had grabbed upped the baby and left with her and was videoed in the parking lot for a couple of hours after 1 am til like 3:30 using phone and there was no sign of baby, does anyone know much about that with a possible assumption that caylee was there that morning asleep.

[cuddlyrunner]

I've just been reading the im messaging from the link someone posted above-I know we have had loads of people in this case but who is

doorknob

and from those photos from the link earlier who is the guy with the blond spiky hair in the flag photos and others?

[barskin&co.]

I've just been reading the im messaging from the link someone posted above-I know we have had loads of people in this case but who is

doorknob

and from those photos from the link earlier who is the guy with the blond spiky hair in the flag photos and others?

The guy, and the others in the many party pictures, is just a friend. He, like the others, has nothing to do with this tragedy.

[cuddlyrunner]

Poor man :-(

Do we know who doorknob is -sounds like Casey was keeping him as reserve guy!

[PuffDragon]

The guy, and the others in the many party pictures, is just a friend. He, like the others, has nothing to do with this tragedy.

Good morning bar, it's a new day! Thinking the board might be a little slow this morning, maybe I'll able to keep up with the thread until those late nighter posters start waking up.

Wonder if there will be any action from Florida before the new year or if we're going to get a holiday break.

[barskin&co.]

Good morning bar, it's a new day! Thinking the board might be a little slow this morning, maybe I'll able to keep up with the thread until those late nighter posters start waking up.

Wonder if there will be any action from Florida before the new year or if we're going to get a holiday break.

I'm thinking holiday break. Wait for the action to return after the new year.

[ellegna]

Good morning :seeya:

New thread started for December 26th
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12580438&posted=1#post12580438