MONDAY, 12/22 - Part One

[steffaroob4]

Employees at the Mission (http://www.wftv.com/news/18334836/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news) unloaded armfuls of stuffed animals and toys brought from the Caylee Anthony memorial site where the child's remains were found more than a week ago. All 85 children staying at the shelter picked out a toy for Christmas. George and Cindy Anthony said their granddaughter was a giving child who liked to share and would have wanted this to happen.


a must read

[Loves2Read]

I bought and read it a few months back on Pru's advice. It wasn't particularly relevatory to me...but for someone w/no educational background in Psychology/sociology/psychiatry who wants to learn more about the subject I'd recommend it. It's written in an easy to understand format w/o much "lingo".
It is a subject that one will benefit from understanding if you plan to follow many murder cases. Not ALL murderers are sociopaths...but many have those tendencies.
JM two cents worth.

ITA. It's a great place to start, but as you say some can have the tendencies with out actually being a true sociopath.

[Neffy]

Employees at the Mission (http://www.wftv.com/news/18334836/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news) unloaded armfuls of stuffed animals and toys brought from the Caylee Anthony memorial site where the child's remains were found more than a week ago. All 85 children staying at the shelter picked out a toy for Christmas. George and Cindy Anthony said their granddaughter was a giving child who liked to share and would have wanted this to happen.


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From Caylee & her Grandparents. ?!? Why didn't they add from Casey too!

I mean I'm glad they were so appreciated but I would have thought that they'd be from the Public in loving memory of Caylee.

[SavannahStar]

Thanks for providing us with that link.

The children at the mission couldn't stop singing and smiling when they saw the gifts under the tree, Monday morning.

I will never understand how anyone can find fault with this.

I will never understand it either but there sure is a huge division in opinion.

[Neffy]

Thanks for providing us with that link.

The children at the mission couldn't stop singing and smiling when they saw the gifts under the tree, Monday morning.

I will never understand how anyone can find fault with this.


I'm not surprised you found the one thing I didn't find fault with and misconstrued it.

[steffaroob4]

Thanks for providing us with that link.

The children at the mission couldn't stop singing and smiling when they saw the gifts under the tree, Monday morning.

I will never understand how anyone can find fault with this.

Me either, there is nothing sadder to me than ruined toys that could have made another child happy. Did you see the video, there were a lot of things in that van, if just one of those toys can make a single child smile, well that is what Christmas/holidays are all about.

If you have been poor and have gone into the holidays knowing you won't be getting a gift as a child, you really understand the importance of one small gift.

[joolz]

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You hit the nail on the head. I could not agree more.

A lot of discussion has been done about how Casey's parents could let her get away with so many lies. Until & unless you have had to deal with someone like her, I don't think you quite comprehend how completely impossible it is to even keep UP with their lies, much less call them on every one of them, much LESS deal with every one of them, much less initiate any action that will alter them.

You could literally spend every hour of every day just trying to keep track of the lies. They wear down everyone who is near them. They lie about everything, even about (& sometimes especially about) things that are so trivial that it seems it would not be worth lying about. In the end, the more you have to interact with them, the faster they will alter your perspectives, your life, your activities, to the point you think YOU are the crazy one.

JMO

Having dealt with it, I can vouch for that incredibly accurate description. And the inner resources you need to be able to get yourself out of that kind of situation are exactly the ones that have been most weakened by the relationship. JMO

[playnice]

Thanks for providing us with that link.

The children at the mission couldn't stop singing and smiling when they saw the gifts under the tree, Monday morning.

I will never understand how anyone can find fault with this.

I think that was a good thing to do. Better than sitting out in the elements ruining.

[5boxersmom]

Employees at the Mission (http://www.wftv.com/news/18334836/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news) unloaded armfuls of stuffed animals and toys brought from the Caylee Anthony memorial site where the child's remains were found more than a week ago. All 85 children staying at the shelter picked out a toy for Christmas. George and Cindy Anthony said their granddaughter was a giving child who liked to share and would have wanted this to happen.


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That make me cry and smile at the same time. Poor little kids. I am glad they will get to enjoy them.

[KatieKates]

I think that was a good thing to do. Better than sitting out in the elements ruining.


ITA, that was a nice thing to do. There are so many children who get nothing for xmas.

[martha]

I am so thankful caylee was found. I only wish she had been found in aug. I have so many mixed feeling about this case and I sure don;t know how I would act if it was my gc.my heart breaks for caylee.I do know she is in God amrs and will never hurt again. She is well and happy. I am thankful for that. I hope and pray there will be justic for caylee one day. jmho

[steffaroob4]

I will never understand it either but there sure is a huge division in opinion.

They are so lucky it hasn't rained so far, then you have hundreds of pieces of wet soggy garbage, why anyone would choose that over the mission is beyond me.

Seeing a bunch of wet stuffed animals is not how I want to remember Caylee.

[VC2]

I was just reading all that, and I thought, could this get any worse, and then i saw your siggy, and this case is always getting worse!

Those are some MAJOR wins, putting it mildly.

jmo

no worries, baez would never give up this case for a fantastic lawyer like Roy Black.

Baez is determined that this case will bring him to stardom. what an idiot. Its a loser of a case to start with and there is no way that any smart person needing attorney would hire baez after the idiotic behavior so far.

[KatieKates]

I think the duct tape would have stuck to hair--if indeed duct tape was found on Caylee's little mouth. Hair could have been caught up in the duct tape.

mho

And lots and lots of fingerprints. God willing.

[joolz]

Thanks for providing us with that link.

The children at the mission couldn't stop singing and smiling when they saw the gifts under the tree, Monday morning.

I will never understand how anyone can find fault with this.

Who found fault with it?

[Mimi428]

Excellent, Mimi. You are exactly right too. The neverending lies will drive you mad, strangely enough the most stupid, insignificant ones .... especially if they're from someone you love. You question every thought and reaction you have to this person not knowing what's real and what isn't. It SUCKS. I believe George, Cindy, Lee and anyone else Casey influenced would benefit from some extensive counselling after all this is over.

Before she ever was an adult (or reached the age of majority, anyway) her family HAD to deal with her, every day. My guess is that any day spent with Casey was a day of being subjected to so many little lies, embellishments. The kind that seem far too inconsequential to be worth getting in a big uproar about (we DO, after all, advise parents to choose their battles wisely). So the family learns to overlook the minor fabrications, the tall tales, the exaggerated stories about EVERYTHING.

But inside the person TELLING the lies a lot is going on. On the one hand, they LOVE to pull the wool over everyone else's. They LOVE to deceive, they really get off on it. They also despise those who believe their lies, think they are stupid, think they are gullible, think they are beneath them, that everyone else is not nearly half as clever, etc.

And worse, they are SO adept at feigning righteous outrage if you call them on anything. They know very well that you simply cannot prove that a lot of their little lies ARE lies - & that to try & do so would consume YOU far more than it would bother them - since they have already moved on to the next story, the next fabrication, the next lie.

JMO

[5boxersmom]

They are so lucky it hasn't rained so far, then you have hundreds of pieces of wet soggy garbage, why anyone would choose that over the mission is beyond me.

Seeing a bunch of wet stuffed animals is not how I want to remember Caylee.

Earlier I said if there wasn't no rain in the forecast they should leave them a few days, but now I am glad they did not. Makes me happy for the kids to enjoy them.

[Kathlb]

Someone said the other stuff remained in place.

I don't have a single problem with the children at the Mission getting the stuffed animals. That's a nice thing to do. However, they needed to leave the notes, cards, signs and ribbons, etc. where they are. It's not the Anthony's property and they don't have the right to remove personal thoughts like that. If they left those, fine, if Lee took them and got rid of them he should be slapped.

[Katt2]

I will never understand it either but there sure is a huge division in opinion.

I don't understand it either. It was a positive act to do. These toys have brought immense happiness to needy children and it may be about the only gift they receive this year. Isn't that better than letting them sit out in the elements getting ruined and ending up at the dump? It isn't as if they had the entire memorial removed but just the toys.

[Neffy]

Why do you think I am referring to you? I wasn't, but there are plenty of people who have issues with the toys being donated. There is no denying that.

I take issue that they were from the public and giving in Loving Memory of Caylee.

They were NOT from the Anthony's. This memorial was moved down the street because the Anthony's wanted no part of it in their yard.

The Anthony's get no kudos for the publics gesture.

[Loves2Read]

no worries, baez would never give up this case for a fantastic lawyer like Roy Black.

Baez is determined that this case will bring him to stardom. what an idiot. Its a loser of a case to start with and there is no way that any smart person needing attorney would hire baez after the idiotic behavior so far.

IMO Baez also has an attachment to Casey herself, and would like to "save" her. I think he wants to be around her just as much as he wants to become a star.

[NikkiG77058]

Hi, there, Nikki! Go back and read my post and this time, read slower. I didn't say that the ME said anything of the sort. I said that some pundit on a news show was using that as an example to drive his point home that we do not know what killed this child and that if the child died of anything other than Casey murdering her outright, the only thing Casey would be guilty of is messing with a corpse which is a misdemeanor in Florida.

As far as Lee the father of Caylee, there are plenty of us who suspect emphasis on SUPSPECT that to be true. Again, go back and read my posts. I clearly said that this was a gut instinct, a hunch and a theory on my part.

Have a great day, friend!

Read slower? :o

I wasn't trying to offend you - just wondering where you get your 'facts'... Excuse me if I misinterpreted your post...

[joolz]

Roy black is THE defense attorney that you want to get in Florida. He is very well thought-of, if you fancy defense attorneys that is.
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Artist Peter Max in New York


Etc.


What about Peter Max? What charges, what case?

[KatieKates]

I don't have a single problem with the children at the Mission getting the stuffed animals. That's a nice thing to do. However, they needed to leave the notes, cards, signs and ribbons, etc. where they are. It's not the Anthony's property and they don't have the right to remove personal thoughts like that. If they left those, fine, if Lee took them and got rid of them he should be slapped.


While I agree that it would be tacky to remove those things, I think it is their right to do so if they wish, it's their lawn. I believe the reports said all that wasn't a stuffed animal with a note to Caylee, was removed and taken to the mission.

[joolz]

Last night, here on the board, it caused quite the ruckas. there were people that were adimantly p'd off at them (A's) for doing it. I respect their opinions and see where they are coming from, but do not agree with them.

Thank you Sassy.:smile:

[trich]

No kidding. I feel for him.






I think everyone involved with Casey are so now wishing they never heard of her.
I hope they have all learned a valuable lesson in chosing their friends better.
Also don't be so naive and trust no one.
I realize these are all young people and they have alot to learn....hopefully they have from experiencing this friendship they had with Casey.
I bet they are all wondering how she could have fooled so many for so long.
Too bad a beautiful child had to die.

[joolz]

Several posters on last nights thread.


TY DT. . . . . .

And everyone else who answered.:smile:

[?noanswer]

Someone said GA didn't change his story about the smell. I knew I heard him saying it was the pizza smell...

Interesting article & other links at the bottom of page.

http://www.momlogic.com/2008/12/casey_anthony_caylee_anthony_c_1.php


I don't know if he changed his story before, but he definitely changed it on LKL (the night before the body was discovered). He said it was Pizza. My mouth dropped wide open, because that is NOT what he said in his interview with LE & the FBI. JMO

[steffaroob4]

Everybody thinks it is okay to have those memorials there, however I think we forget that where they are located is at the main entrance to an elementary school. I am not so sure how I would feel if my child attended that school and would see that everyday. I can't imagine explaining it to a child in first or second grade. Not all parents would want their child reminded daily that there are people out there that kill their own children. MOO

[KatieKates]

If there are fingerprints on the adhesive part of the duct tape, the killer's goose is cooked.

mho

Yeah, she's going down.

[KKKKKKatie]

Good Morning MrsHudson.. I was just thinking about you. Did you hear that George and Cindy will NOT be facing any criminal charges? I hope you had a restful night.


coming in late...so sorry if this has been answered. Did this come from LE???

[trich]

While I agree that it would be tacky to remove those things, I think it is their right to do so if they wish, it's their lawn. I believe the reports said all that wasn't a stuffed animal with a note to Caylee, was removed and taken to the mission.

Wouldn't it be nice if they took all the personal notes and cards and put them in a scrapbook.
IMO ..I think I would want to do that .
Save them and when the time was right ....it would keep forever.
Just a reminder of how so many felt so much love for Caylee.

[tisamystery]

Thanks for the answer to my question.

Just to clarify: How much time passed between the last communication (texting, etc.) with Casey and the discovery of the car?

[Loves2Read]

Before she ever was an adult (or reached the age of majority, anyway) her family HAD to deal with her, every day. My guess is that any day spent with Casey was a day of being subjected to so many little lies, embellishments. The kind that seem far too inconsequential to be worth getting in a big uproar about (we DO, after all, advise parents to choose their battles wisely). So the family learns to overlook the minor fabrications, the tall tales, the exaggerated stories about EVERYTHING.

But inside the person TELLING the lies a lot is going on. On the one hand, they LOVE to pull the wool over everyone else's. They LOVE to deceive, they really get off on it. They also despise those who believe their lies, think they are stupid, think they are gullible, think they are beneath them, that everyone else is not nearly half as clever, etc.

And worse, they are SO adept at feigning righteous outrage if you call them on anything. They know very well that you simply cannot prove that a lot of their little lies ARE lies - & that to try & do so would consume YOU far more than it would bother them - since they have already moved on to the next story, the next fabrication, the next lie.

JMO

Reading your post brought back to mind that first phone call Casey made to her home from jail. The part where she said to her mother "What do you mean you don't know what my involvement in this is?" sounded very much like that feigned righteous outrage. IMO

[Kathlb]

While I agree that it would be tacky to remove those things, I think it is their right to do so if they wish, it's their lawn. I believe the reports said all that wasn't a stuffed animal with a note to Caylee, was removed and taken to the mission.

No, it's not, it's at the site where the body was, it's not their property at all, but a ways away and belongs to a man who lives out of state. That's why I have a problem with the personal notes, not the animals. If it were on their property, then I feel they can do whatever they wish.

[?noanswer]

there was a huge division in opinion. I defin noticed the diffrence last night. I didnt state my opinion then because I was not up for a 'verbal spar" but I think that is was VERY noble of the A's to donate the toys. I am all about endless giving to kids at Christmas. Esp kids that may not get anything else.

However, what if people non parishable items out there like ballons, small statues, crosses etc. Would they remove these as well?? Any thoughts??

The A's atty. said those things would remain. Of course everything will have to be moved at some time. The flowers will die and notes will get wet. I would think that whomever the property belongs to would want everything moved at sometime in the future. JMO

[Neffy]

Exactly. The A's are really getting better and better and manipulating public opinion. And it's working.

To read a child was told they're from Caylee AND her GRANDPARENTS is pretty appalling.

I think its wonderful they recieved them but it should have been in LOVING MEMORY OF CAYLEE from the PUBLIC (I was going to say Orlando but I believe I read someone was even there from Canada).

Some people did drive miles to pay tribute.

Heck even to say from Caylee would have been fine.

I take issues with the A's for ALL they did to impede this investigation.

[SavannahStar]

I don't have a single problem with the children at the Mission getting the stuffed animals. That's a nice thing to do. However, they needed to leave the notes, cards, signs and ribbons, etc. where they are. It's not the Anthony's property and they don't have the right to remove personal thoughts like that. If they left those, fine, if Lee took them and got rid of them he should be slapped.

Whose property is it? If it's a card to Caylee, for instance....Caylee is dead. Those are her next of kin (mother in jail).

If someone sent your mother a card and your mother died, wouldn't it be yours as next of kin?

[KKKKKKatie]

No.

It came from the criminal defense attorney representing Cindy & George.

Thanks LS...think I'll wait to fall for that one until LE says it lol

[Kathlb]

The cards, leters and balloons were left there. The link to the video was posted twice last night. Here it is.


Big changes to the memorial near the woods where Caylee's remains were found more than a week ago. As Tracy Jacim reports, George and Cindy Anthony found a way to honor their late grand-daughter while helping others.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8120576&version=1&locale=EN-US

Okay thanks Bookie. I don't have a problem at all with the animals...making children smile is always a preference. :-) But I'm glad the personal notes to Caylee were left.

[KatieKates]

No, it's not, it's at the site where the body was, it's not their property at all, but a ways away and belongs to a man who lives out of state. That's why I have a problem with the personal notes, not the animals. If it were on their property, then I feel they can do whatever they wish.

I don't think they're touching those. I think they're only removing off their own lawn.

[KKKKKKatie]

Do you know how the property owner felt about having a memorial on his property? I can't imagine it would be so great for business, trying to develop property where such a tragic death of a child presumably occured.

He/she hasn't taken it down...have they?

[Kathlb]

Whose property is it? If it's a card to Caylee, for instance....Caylee is dead. Those are her next of kin (mother in jail).

If someone sent your mother a card and your mother died, wouldn't it be yours as next of kin?

If it were a quarter of a mile away on someone else's property I wouldn't go there and take something left in rememberance of her by someone else. Anyone who wanted to give something to the family in remembrance usually comes to the door. JMHO

[Auburngirl]

Good afternoon all. Sorry to ask something that may have already been asked but.... Does anyone know where to find all the crime scene photos that have been released? I've been able to find only a few.

TIA.

[breezie]

I would imagine if any charges are going to be filed they wouldn't be filed until after the Holidays.

I can't imagine they would file charges until after Casey's trial (and conviction). They will be witnesses. Can't have them taking the 5th. THAT's what is saving their azzes at this time...jmho.

[steffaroob4]

The A's atty. said those things would remain. Of course everything will have to be moved at some time. The flowers will die and notes will get wet. I would think that whomever the property belongs to would want everything moved at sometime in the future. JMO

The funny thing about the fuss over the memorial is, we don't even know if it was the A's idea, the lawyer or a friend could have suggested it, no matter how it happened I am glad they others will get some joy from the toys.

Conway seems to be a very nice person, so far I have been very impressed with him.

[KatieKates]

No one in law enforcement claims Caylee died where her remains were found.

Where did you get that information?


The body being found there is bad enough.

[?noanswer]

Thanks for the answer to my question.

Just to clarify: How much time passed between the last communication (texting, etc.) with Casey and the discovery of the car?


Cindy has said they texted/talked on phone almost daily. KC came by the house on June 24, and George talked to her. The car was recovered from the tow lot on July 15th. JMO

[breezie]

The cards, leters and balloons were left there. The link to the video was posted twice last night. Here it is.


Big changes to the memorial near the woods where Caylee's remains were found more than a week ago. As Tracy Jacim reports, George and Cindy Anthony found a way to honor their late grand-daughter while helping others.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8120576&version=1&locale=EN-US

george and cindy honoring their grandchild? pffffttttt. They tore down Caylee's memorial. Those gifts are from the public NOT George and Cindy. And should be noted as such.

George and Cindy want to honor Caylee? How about telling the TRUTH about the odious creature and her actions.

[Loves2Read]

I can't imagine they would file charges until after Casey's trial (and conviction). They will be witnesses. Can't have them taking the 5th. THAT's what is saving their azzes at this time...jmho.

ITA! No telling what they will say at trial. They could face a few charges just from ever will happen in court. Then they can just charge them will everything all at once. Not saying that will happen.... but it could :chicken:

[*MoonRider*]

Someone said GA didn't change his story about the smell. I knew I heard him saying it was the pizza smell...

Interesting article & other links at the bottom of page.

http://www.momlogic.com/2008/12/casey_anthony_caylee_anthony_c_1.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbNCHyDa83Y&feature=related

Larry King clip at 5:30 where George says it was the smell of pizza. Keep in mind this was the day before Caylee was found.

[steffaroob4]

Good afternoon all. Sorry to ask something that may have already been asked but.... Does anyone know where to find all the crime scene photos that have been released? I've been able to find only a few.

TIA.

last pages are the best (http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/AlbumID/1985-6/Page/0/Default.aspx)

[Neffy]

Everybody thinks it is okay to have those memorials there, however I think we forget that where they are located is at the main entrance to an elementary school. I am not so sure how I would feel if my child attended that school and would see that everyday. I can't imagine explaining it to a child in first or second grade. Not all parents would want their child reminded daily that there are people out there that kill their own children. MOO

I would imagine many of the children that go to that school left them.

How are they going to feel that they were removed?

The Anthony's donated NOTHING. The Anthony's removed a public tribute in loving memory of Caylee. They should have donated it in the same name. NOT from The Anthony's.

[Kathlb]

Another of the million things that bother me :-) Cindy says she talked to Casey either by phone or text every day and someone just said she visited them on June 24th? Then why when she did the "exicted utterance" on the 911 call did she say she couldn't find her daughter for a month but just found her and now her granddaughter is missing?

[Mimi428]

Reading your post brought back to mind that first phone call Casey made to her home from jail. The part where she said to her mother "What do you mean you don't know what my involvement in this is?" sounded very much like that feigned righteous outrage. IMO

I agree, that is a great example. Glad you reminded us about it. There are other things we can see in that conversation that I think are pretty typical for people like Casey. While her mother tries to get to her stop lying about ONE thing - she is busy creating more lies about other things. There is no way (in Casey's mind) Cindy can make her accountable for lying. Again, in Casey's mind - if her mother busts her on one lie...well, so what? She (Casey) is STILL ahead - because she is also thinking that Cindy sure didn't catch or mention or focus on all the OTHER lies.

It's a good demonstration of how it is virtually impossible to successfully make them answer for all their lies. You can't do it, they are lying about lies, when they offer up a smidgen of truth it is wrapped up in other layers of other lies.

YOU may be overlooking the little lies, but they are totting them up, keeping score, in THEIR minds. All those deceptions are very rewarding - they just further prove how clever THEY are - & cement the idea that YOU are stupid, unnecessary & a pain in the drain to them (except when you are handy for money or other things they want).

JMO

[taylor63]

Thanks for providing us with that link.

The children at the mission couldn't stop singing and smiling when they saw the gifts under the tree, Monday morning.

I will never understand how anyone can find fault with this.

Amen! To bring joy to other children who would otherwise be dissapointed and heartbroken this Christmas. I can't understand how anyone could find fault with that either. I think that was such a beautiful gesture on part of the Anthony family to donate the toys to the shelter.

[Auburngirl]

last pages are the best (http://www.ocso.com/Agency/MediaRelations/CAYLEEPAGE/CrimeSceneGallery/tabid/558/AlbumID/1985-6/Page/0/Default.aspx)


Thanks so much!!!

[SavannahStar]

If it were a quarter of a mile away on someone else's property I wouldn't go there and take something left in rememberance of her by someone else. Anyone who wanted to give something to the family in remembrance usually comes to the door. JMHO

I was specifically talking about cards/letters. If they were TO Caylee who is dead, I believe they rightfully do belong to the Anthonys. Who do you think they belong to?

[KatieKates]

Another of the million things that bother me :-) Cindy says she talked to Casey either by phone or text every day and someone just said she visited them on June 24th? Then why when she did the "exicted utterance" on the 911 call did she say she couldn't find her daughter for a month but just found her and now her granddaughter is missing?


Cindy didn't see her on the 24th.

[Regina.Lampert]

What truth? They weren't with Casey when Caylee died. They would be guessing just like the rest of us.

For starters cynthia can cough up the details of the fight she had with the defendant on the night of 6/15th and george can tell the truth about when he actually saw Caylee for the last time. Hint: It wasn't at 12:50 p.m. on 6/16, imo.

[Auburngirl]

Loraki has posted a ton of them here: You're very welcome!

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=346658


TY too Adalena. I really appreciate all the help.

[Kathlb]

I was specifically talking about cards/letters. If they were TO Caylee who is dead, I believe they rightfully do belong to the Anthonys. Who do you think they belong to?

I believe we're talking about two different things here. You're nit picking at facts (yes, I guess they do belong to the Anthony's or Casey since they are next of kin) but I am talking about caring and respect for other's wishes and disrupting a tribute bought and paid for and left by someone else in a spot they wanted it to be. (not including the animals here...that was a nice thing to do rather than see them ruined.) As for the owner having those things deteriorating on his property...they will be cleaned up eventually, it's still just a few days old however.

[eastside joe]

The knowledge that Cindy and George never spoke to or met the nanny really puzzles me given the fact that Casey and Caylee lived with the parents. Cindy stated that she "raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc," regarding Caylee.

She appeared very involved with this child, but unfortunately not involved or caring enough to know this important figure in Caylee's life.

Just doesn't make much sense to me. IMO

[taylor63]

I don't have a single problem with the children at the Mission getting the stuffed animals. That's a nice thing to do. However, they needed to leave the notes, cards, signs and ribbons, etc. where they are. It's not the Anthony's property and they don't have the right to remove personal thoughts like that. If they left those, fine, if Lee took them and got rid of them he should be slapped.

Did anyone watch the segment on CNN,which showed people leaving the toys and notes at the memorial site? It was so touching, there was one little girl that looked a lot like Caylee, and her mom became teary when she said everytime Caylee's picture came on TV the little girl would say look mommy it's me!

Another mourner was a woman in her 40's, who had never been able to have children,she left a note for Caylee telling her how much she would have loved to have been her mother it was really heartbreaking and left me in tears.

[?noanswer]

Another of the million things that bother me :-) Cindy says she talked to Casey either by phone or text every day and someone just said she visited them on June 24th? Then why when she did the "exicted utterance" on the 911 call did she say she couldn't find her daughter for a month but just found her and now her granddaughter is missing?

The only thing I can think she meant is that she did not know where she was living. I think I also remember that Lee went looking for her on July 3rd. Don't know if he found her, but I seem to remember that some of her friends said she told them her mother was looking for her, but not to tell her anything - she would explain later.

After I said all the above, I don't know if anyone will ever be able to figure out all the things CA has said/done. JMO

[steffaroob4]

I would imagine many of the children that go to that school left them.

How are they going to feel that they were removed?

The Anthony's donated NOTHING. The Anthony's removed a public tribute in loving memory of Caylee. They should have donated it in the same name. NOT from The Anthony's.

Conway announced yesterday they would be removed, giving anyone that didn't want what had left there a chance to pick it up.

There is no way that many of the kids at that school left anything, many parents would not take their children into that kind of situation.

You are getting upset over a statement by one person made, those gifts were shared by Caylee, that is how it was supposed to be.

I am sure most people in that neighborhood would like the media and the people gone, tell me you haven't seen the crowds there, why are they hanging out. The cameras leave, the people leave, the whole thing is a mess.

If Casey did dump her child's body there, at an entrance to a school, the is a special place in hades for her.

[Neffy]

Another of the million things that bother me :-) Cindy says she talked to Casey either by phone or text every day and someone just said she visited them on June 24th? Then why when she did the "exicted utterance" on the 911 call did she say she couldn't find her daughter for a month but just found her and now her granddaughter is missing?

Apple doesn't fall very far from the tree. I was so focused on Casey's claim she spoke to Caylee (that same day I believe it was supposed to have been) that I'd forgotten about Grandma contradictory statement pertaining to this.

[happy2bme]

The knowledge that Cindy and George never spoke to or met the nanny really puzzles me given the fact that Casey and Caylee lived with the parents. Cindy stated that she "raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc," regarding Caylee.

She appeared very involved with this child, but unfortunately not involved or caring enough to know this important figure in Caylee's life.

Just doesn't make much sense to me. IMO


That has really bothered me since the very beginning as well. Makes no sense at all.

[??WHATthe??]

I take issue that they were from the public and giving in Loving Memory of Caylee.

They were NOT from the Anthony's. This memorial was moved down the street because the Anthony's wanted no part of it in their yard.

The Anthony's get no kudos for the publics gesture.

ITA! While it was a very nice thing to do, and I agree that the toys should be where they are instead of getting rained on, but common... How could they be... and why were they given to these children by "Cindy and George"?:blink: The toys should have been given in the name of the Caylee and her public family that put them there.

IMO

[bballgrl]

there was a huge division in opinion. I defin noticed the diffrence last night. I didnt state my opinion then because I was not up for a 'verbal spar" but I think that is was VERY noble of the A's to donate the toys. I am all about endless giving to kids at Christmas. Esp kids that may not get anything else.

However, what if people non parishable items out there like ballons, small statues, crosses etc. Would they remove these as well?? Any thoughts??

This is what I have been hoping for all along. I think this is the first truly "good" thing that the A's have done since this whole mess began. Good for them!

[Kathlb]

The knowledge that Cindy and George never spoke to or met the nanny really puzzles me given the fact that Casey and Caylee lived with the parents. Cindy stated that she "raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc," regarding Caylee.

She appeared very involved with this child, but unfortunately not involved or caring enough to know this important figure in Caylee's life.

Just doesn't make much sense to me. IMO

I agree. Knowing Cindy as we've come to know her controlling ways, I can't fathom how she could let Caylee go to a babysitter for all that time and never had met her, talked to her on the phone or even had her number. And supposedly Caylee spent nights there without Casey and still Cindy never questioned anything about that???? Totally out of character and there is much more to that than we know I feel. JMHO

[Neffy]

Conway announced yesterday they would be removed, giving anyone that didn't want what had left there a chance to pick it up.

There is no way that many of the kids at that school left anything, many parents would not take their children into that kind of situation.

You are getting upset over a statement by one person made, those gifts were shared by Caylee, that is how it was supposed to be.

I am sure most people in that neighborhood would like the media and the people gone, tell me you haven't seen the crowds there, why are they hanging out. The cameras leave, the people leave, the whole thing is a mess.

If Casey did dump her child's body there, at an entrance to a school, the is a special place in hades for her.


Conway NEVER mentioned the fact that it was being donated in the name of the ANTHONY's.

I thought it was a good idea, a little soon perhaps and I understood the outcry but I thought it would be donated as a tribute to Caylee from the Public. Just like it was originally meant.

I also took Conway to mean if they didn't want to donate their tribute to take them.

Again, it was never mentioned that it was coming from THE ANTHONY'S.

That's just wrong.

[steffaroob4]

Caylee's grandparents, Cindy and George Anthony (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8124064&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1), plan to have her funeral after the holidays. They will hold a private memorial to honor their granddaughter and also are looking into holding a public community memorial.

A second autopsy will be done on Caylee's remains by an expert on the defense team of Casey Anthony.

Also new on Monday, two more names have been added to the state's witness list. Troy Brown, Casey's friend, and Cameron Capena have been added to the listed.

[destiny1]

For starters cynthia can cough up the details of the fight she had with the defendant on the night of 6/15th and george can tell the truth about when he actually saw Caylee for the last time. Hint: It wasn't at 12:50 p.m. on 6/16, imo.

Cindy can come totally clean about the fight as well as anything the inmate may have told her regarding what happened to Caylee. I think she really does know, and can't accept it.
I think that George saw Caylee last on 6/15 immediately after the fight, and that he saw the inmate on the 16th scuttling about trying to get away from his scrutinizing eyes.

[steffaroob4]

Conway NEVER mentioned the fact that it was being donated in the name of the ANTHONY's.

I thought it was a good idea, a little soon perhaps and I understood the outcry but I thought it would be donated as a tribute to Caylee from the Public. Just like it was originally meant.

I also took Conway to mean if they didn't want to donate their tribute to take them.

Again, it was never mentioned that it was coming from THE ANTHONY'S.

That's just wrong.

I agree, that is what I was saying...

[Mimi428]

I think her saying you dont know what my involvment is comes along with you have to be fing kidding me, how can you even think I did this, not that Cindy does not know, Casey is not going to fess up to this ever, and especially not to Cindy, if Casey knwos her mother would choke her over stealing, who knows what she would have done to her for hurting Caylee, and if anyone had helped Casey she is not some stoic hardcore person, she would have implicated someone else, oh wait, she did, a non existent nanny.


ITA. I also believe she was absolutely NOT suggesting that her mother knew what happened, but that she (Casey) was in a full-fledged feigned outrage "how DARE you, my own mother, accuse me of doing something to my child! What kind of a mother are you that you would even THINK crap like that?!"

Once we heard Casey's voice & the disgust she showed in her voice - about how it was such a 'waste' of time to call the house - it became pretty obvious (to me) that she had absolutely no thought or concern about Caylee. A person in her position, who actually had no involvement with her child's disappearance would be frantic, desperate, out of her mind with anxiety & fear over what could be happening to her baby. But Casey sure wasn't. Nope, it was all about 'give me what I want'.

[bchand]

Last night, here on the board, it caused quite the ruckas. there were people that were adimantly p'd off at them (A's) for doing it. I respect their opinions and see where they are coming from, but do not agree with them.

What was offensive "last night" sassy was the fact that a "tv movie producer" was sent to the crime scene by the Anthony's to remove all the stuffed animals and toys. (What is he producing?)

The people there, who didn't know this guy from adam, were offended and stopped him from doing it.

THEN, the more-known attorney Brad Conway went to the site and explained that the Anthony's wanted the things donated to a children's shelter.

It's just typical of how the Anthony's handle things. Backwards. After seeing Lee being so nasty and ripping up the memorial near their home, the people at the memorial were worried that the toys would end up in a trashcan because that's what the Anthony's did in the past when things were sent to them.

[joolz]

I agree, that is a great example. Glad you reminded us about it. There are other things we can see in that conversation that I think are pretty typical for people like Casey.
It's a good demonstration of how it is virtually impossible to successfully make them answer for all their lies. You can't do it, they are lying about lies, when they offer up a smidgen of truth it is wrapped up in other layers of other lies.

YOU may be overlooking the little lies, but they are totting them up, keeping score, in THEIR minds. All those deceptions are very rewarding - they just further prove how clever THEY are - & cement the idea that YOU are stupid, unnecessary & a pain in the drain to them (except when you are handy for money or other things they want).

JMO


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Once again Mimi, you have hit the nail on the head.

I'd like to add that for everyone who thinks that all of Casey's lies contain a grain of truth, you are WRONG. If you've ever dealt with this type of person, you will know that there is a grain of truth in the lie only when it is convenient, and none at all when it's not.

There is nothing consistent about the lies other than that they are lies, and if you keep trying to make sense of them as if they are some great puzzle, you will make yourself nuts. JMO

[5boxersmom]

Caylee's grandparents, Cindy and George Anthony (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8124064&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1), plan to have her funeral after the holidays. They will hold a private memorial to honor their granddaughter and also are looking into holding a public community memorial.

A second autopsy will be done on Caylee's remains by an expert on the defense team of Casey Anthony.

Also new on Monday, two more names have been added to the state's witness list. Troy Brown, Casey's friend, and Cameron Capena have been added to the listed.

Have we ever saw this name before?

[bballgrl]

What was offensive "last night" sassy was the fact that a "tv movie producer" was sent to the crime scene by the Anthony's to remove all the stuffed animals and toys. (What is he producing?)

The people there, who didn't know this guy from adam, were offended and stopped him from doing it.

THEN, the more-known attorney Brad Conway went to the site and explained that the Anthony's wanted the things donated to a children's shelter.

It's just typical of how the Anthony's handle things. Backwards. After seeing Lee being so nasty and ripping up the memorial near their home, the people at the memorial were worried that the toys would end up in a trashcan because that's what the Anthony's did in the past when things were sent to them.

Yes Boop, that I can understand. However, I truly am happy that they donated the things to charity and that they made some little children very happy. I think that Caylee WOULD have been happy to see that. Maybe I give the A's too much credit for the act, but I am happy they did it :shrug:

[FrankieBones1]

Employees at the Mission (http://www.wftv.com/news/18334836/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news) unloaded armfuls of stuffed animals and toys brought from the Caylee Anthony memorial site where the child's remains were found more than a week ago. All 85 children staying at the shelter picked out a toy for Christmas. George and Cindy Anthony said their granddaughter was a giving child who liked to share and would have wanted this to happen.


a must readThank you so much for posting this. It is so heartwarming. I think the Anthonys are telling the truth finally when they speak this way about Caylee.

[destiny1]

Bingo! Excellent post.

My sentiments exactly. I do not assume anything from the mouth of these people. The we didn't see her for 30 days story is suspect also. The three of them are the source of that story. cindy, george, casey.

That is an excellent observation.

I have a question concerning the inmate not being seen for those days: It has been stated that she was too pathetic and sorry to be able to afford the gas to dispose of Caylees body farther from home. How would she have supported her everyday needs during this time?
No job, no money, no food, no gas. I'm sure her friends didn't support her for all of this time.
What say you?

[zinnia]

Have we ever saw this name before?

It came up a few nights ago when the discussion was about drugs being involved. I didn't know the name either and got told to 'go read'. Have yet to locate him. Let me know if you find him!

TIA

[Kathlb]

The posts around here just keep getting better and better...
:rolleyes:

:laugh::laugh:

[destiny1]

She's a nutbag.

Dirtbag is more accurate.

"Half her bail" INDEED!

[Ladyhawk]

I bought and read it a few months back on Pru's advice. It wasn't particularly relevatory to me...but for someone w/no educational background in Psychology/sociology/psychiatry who wants to learn more about the subject I'd recommend it. It's written in an easy to understand format w/o much "lingo".
It is a subject that one will benefit from understanding if you plan to follow many murder cases. Not ALL murderers are sociopaths...but many have those tendencies.
JM two cents worth.

Even if you're not going to follow murder cases, it's a very good thing to at least get yourself started with the ability to recognize sociopathic behavior because I truly believe there are more people with one or more tendencies than we realize. They won't all kill you but they certainly can make your life miserable if you don't weed them out when you see the first sign. I wonder if her friends had read up on the subject if they would have been able to spot her game.

[??WHATthe??]

Yes Boop, that I can understand. However, I truly am happy that they donated the things to charity and that they made some little children very happy. I think that Caylee WOULD have been happy to see that. Maybe I give the A's too much credit for the act, but I am happy they did it :shrug:


I think they just wanted them gone... it was their Attorney IMO that convinced them to at least donate them. But I still ask, how they had the right to decide anything about it... None of that stuff belonged to them in the first place.

While I think they are in the right place and it is a wonderful thing for less fortunate kids... I don't think they had the right to do what they did... and I think that's why people were so upset...:wink:

IMO

[KKKKKKatie]

It came up a few nights ago when the discussion was about drugs being involved. I didn't know the name either and got told to 'go read'. Have yet to locate him. Let me know if you find him!

TIA

Could be a she....like Cameron Diaz??? I have never seen it before either IIRC

[steffaroob4]

Have we ever saw this name before?

I can remember the first name, I don't recall seeing an interview from him.

Isn't he one of Tony L's roomates????

[bchand]

This is what I have been hoping for all along. I think this is the first truly "good" thing that the A's have done since this whole mess began. Good for them!

Hiya Bball !!!!

Maybe they read on assorted message boards that this is what they should have done the last time?

[kOOkie1]

Cindy can come totally clean about the fight as well as anything the inmate may have told her regarding what happened to Caylee. I think she really does know, and can't accept it.
I think that George saw Caylee last on 6/15 immediately after the fight, and that he saw the inmate on the 16th scuttling about trying to get away from his scrutinizing eyes.


..I agree there is more to that "fight" than they are letting on. (imo)..No matter how I wrap my mind around it..if the 16th was an "orninary" day at the A's there is just no way George would remember such details about what Casey & Calyee were wearing and their last goodbye comments on their way out the door. Afterall Caylee was gone by the 16th when Casey & Tone were strolling through Blockbuster that evening. I would bet George caught Casey a few times at the house during that month. I dont get how they can explain away the fact they smelled the dayum car! I will never understand how Cindy had Casey right there in front of her before calling the police..after the police left and all that time Casey was out on bond and she didnt DEMAND the truth or throw her out the door with NO family support!(jmo)

[mickeymb35]

Cindy Anthony: You're a lot like me.

Casey Anthony: I'm a lot like you. You're exactly right.

What a frightening observation. jmo.

[Neffy]

This is what I have been hoping for all along. I think this is the first truly "good" thing that the A's have done since this whole mess began. Good for them!


LOL. If you call putting your name on the public memorial donation good.

[breezie]

What truth? They weren't with Casey when Caylee died. They would be guessing just like the rest of us.

back again, eh? goodbye. They know the truth. And they've held back the truth.

[jammies]

Cindy Anthony: You're a lot like me.

Casey Anthony: I'm a lot like you. You're exactly right.



Bingo. Lucky George. He got left out of that lovely comparison.

[??WHATthe??]

So what did the newstation say when you called and complained about this situation?

They told me that MalloryCat was taking all the complaints today...

Thank you for your support... smarty...:tonguewag:

[bballgrl]

I think they just wanted them gone... it was their Attorney IMO that convinced them to at least donate them. But I still ask, how they had the right to decide anything about it... None of that stuff belonged to them in the first place.

While I think they are in the right place and it is a wonderful thing for less fortunate kids... I don't think they had the right to do what they did... and I think that's why people were so upset...:wink:

IMO


If these were the items at the "crime scene", then you are probably correct. It was not their property and therefore, not their responsibility. However, if these were the things in their yard, they had every right.
I am not saying this was right or wrong, but I am STILL happy they did it. I feel that it was ao wonderful tribute to Caylee, even if that had not been their intention. I (personally) find no fault in these actions...

MOO - I don't take offense to anyone who feels differently. We all have very strong feelings in this case! :thumbup:

[jammies]

what else can they do with the volulme of toys and flowers, stuffed animals, It is unique to donate them? wow what a wonderful thought. give me a break!
I would bet my bottom dollar the funeral memorial is private, ( no cameras cell phones, etc. and will be viderographed , same as Anna Nicole Smith, per Howard Stern, and sold to various outlets. Are we stupid, naive?? we know what the plan is, This is a production already negotiated. No more Cindy and George sightings, red herrings, codes, the gig is up, and now we are on to gig 2. I have no doubt they have a P.R./Manager orchestrating the coming events, YOU DID NOTHING TO FIND YOUR GRANDCHILD BUT TO ROADBLOCK THE L.E. You told Tim Miller to go home, your face is not on T.V because your lawyer/manager is advising you not to, creating another image. imo gogo this is all . the lawyer on this minute WE ARE GIVING THESE TO THE HOMELESS. WHAT THE HECK ELSE CAN YOU DO WITH THEM. SELL THEM.?? This is all bullpoopoo. gogo



How do you REALLY feel, gogo?? :wink:

fwiw, I tend to agree with your post. Tired of their whole charade.

[Cury-us Coyote]

The funny thing about the fuss over the memorial is, we don't even know if it was the A's idea, the lawyer or a friend could have suggested it, no matter how it happened I am glad they others will get some joy from the toys.

Conway seems to be a very nice person, so far I have been very impressed with him.

IMO, the decision to which Missing Persons Organization the remaining trust funds are donated will be interesting and perhaps provide insight into the extent of BC's influence.
jmo

[??WHATthe??]

If these were the items at the "crime scene", then you are probably correct. It was not their property and therefore, not their responsibility. However, if these were the things in their yard, they had every right.
I am not saying this was right or wrong, but I am STILL happy they did it. I feel that it was ao wonderful tribute to Caylee, even if that had not been their intention. I (personally) find no fault in these actions...

MOO - I don't take offense to anyone who feels differently. We all have very strong feelings in this case! :thumbup:

I'm glad they went to the kids too! :smile: I just didn't think it was the Anthony's decision, and I don't think they did it out of "love or kindness" I think they wanted the memorial gone... :sad:

IMO

[destiny1]

I agree. They wanted those things out of there. It was not their property and they had no cause to commandeer those items that they had not paid for that were on property that did not belong to them. But happily they could use those freebies to their advantage and so they did. There is no reason for them to get credit for those things being given to Caylee by others. But sure enough they can wangle anything to their advantage thereby improving their public image which will help Casey in the long run.
I read upthread that the children were told that the gifts were from caylee and her GRAND(standing) PARENTS. I thought this was quite a little setback in their social makeover.

Very opportunistic move.

I'm sure that LE is watching their behavior in public and will know immediately if there are any more attempts at deceit.

Nothing on this earth that they do will make the inmate look any better or worse than she already does.

[steffaroob4]

IMO, the decision to which Missing Persons Organization the remaining trust funds are donated will be interesting and perhaps provide insight into the extent of BC's influence.
jmo

True

Is Cameron Capena (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8124064&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)the room mate of Tony L, that heard what CA said to Tony the night of the 15th of July???

[kOOkie1]

I certainly wonder what George and Cindy are going to do when there is no more Diversions to throw out there and the time comes to face REALITY?! ...

[cassidy]

This is what I have been hoping for all along. I think this is the first truly "good" thing that the A's have done since this whole mess began. Good for them!

And I agree. Although IMO it was their attorney's idea. Never the less, the toys are now in the possession of kids who will be grateful for them. From the link provided by Steff they were told where they came from. A PR move? Who knows for sure? But IMO it was the right thing to do. The people who are angry need to stop and remember that out of this tragedy, at least a little good has come. It brought some joy into a lot of children's lives and that can't be a bad thing.

JMO

[bballgrl]

Hiya Bball !!!!

Maybe they read on assorted message boards that this is what they should have done the last time?


Since being altuistic is not COMMON for an Anthony. I bet you are correct Boop! :wink:

[??WHATthe??]

lol, I couldn't help myself.

But I do think its nice the toys will be used and appreciated.

Oh... ITA!:thumbsup:

[destiny1]

Well, they left the other stuff, so its still there. And maybe its painful to look at, its bad enough they have her room in the home to look at, I just cant imagine the pain.

Mallory, I'm not kicking those people while they're down and certainly wish that in the case of their loss of caylee, people would be compassionate, but that memorial is not in their space. It is on property not visible from their home, though close. why would they want to have it removed?

[destiny1]

THEY DID NOT REMOVE THE MEMORIAL...just the toys....I am aware of that fact. Bad wording on my part. I was referring to the fact that she stated in her post that it must be painful to look at. It wasn't on their property or within their sight.

The donation of the toys was, however a very interesting, though opportunistic move.

[??WHATthe??]

Well, they left the other stuff, so its still there. And maybe its painful to look at, its bad enough they have her room in the home to look at, I just cant imagine the pain.

Can't imagine the pain... but would never deface the memory of my beautiful grandchild and disrespect the people of the public that have come to love her and that paid their respects to her...

IMO, they are a part of the reason the public is grieving to badly and this was just a slap in the face to donate those toys in their name! Sure they included Caylee in that donation announcement... but to put their name on it was just a PR move at best! :wink:

[destiny1]

Its not gone, the toys are gone and with kids who are alive to play with them and appreciate them just in time for the holidays.

They went to the Rescue Mission, and that is a wonderful thing. was wondering about the logic that they didn't want to see it because it was too painful. I know they didn't SAY that but in some posts it was touched upon in that manner.

[Tiggy]

I don't know what to think of it either but I will say this much. I will understand if the Anthony's don't turn their backs on Casey but if they continue down the "Zany did it road", I will be forced to reevaluate.

You can bet your booty that's the road they'll be traveling.

[SavannahStar]

I read upthread that the children were told that the gifts were from caylee and her GRAND(standing) PARENTS. I thought this was quite a little setback in their social makeover.

Very opportunistic move.

I'm sure that LE is watching their behavior in public and will know immediately if there are any more attempts at deceit.

Nothing on this earth that they do will make the inmate look any better or worse than she already does.

I think it goes back to what I posted earlier. If the toys were given TO Caylee (in a manner of speaking), who do they actually belong to, once given? Caylee is dead. She cannot "own" anything. Everything of hers belongs to next of kin. So to say the toys came from Caylee and her grandparents is actually 100% correct. They toys were given to Caylee who is dead. Her next of kin chose to give them in her name to a charity. I don't understand the big deal really.

[destiny1]

a good deed done, and the sympathetic lawyer this sweel lovely man is broadcasting on every channel THE ANTHONYS ARE DONATING THE TOYS. SOOOOOO WHATTTT. We are on to your rehabilitation. The Anthony's imo covered or prevented their grandchild from being discovered with their bogus sightings. they wanted us to forget Casey's 31 days of partying. "the freaking car smells like a dead body" now , we are donating the toys, who give 2 poo poos. I hope they are prosecuted. but nooooo this sw eet sympathetic lawyer sorry to say but a lot of you are buying it, falling under his spell. HE IS GETTING PAID TO CREATE NICEY FOR THEM. GEEZ, I do not care if I am criticized but honestly this is how I feel. I will not be influenced by paid P.r.

I wonder if any thought was put into getting this attorney because of his sweet lovely and somewhat sympathetic demeanor.

I don't wish them any ill, but I do believe they have obstructed justice, hindered prosecution, injured public records(by giving official false statements), and possibly been accessories after the fact depending on when they KNEW what happened. and I do believe that one of them knew.

[5boxersmom]

I can remember the first name, I don't recall seeing an interview from him.

Isn't he one of Tony L's roomates????

Maybe. Seems like I do remember a Cameron.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Dinner Troll, this may be the first thing you have said all week that I kind of agree with. I remember when Danielle Van Dam's family members did a beautiful montage of her life and we saw that on the internet, and I cried for days after that. If they (The Anthony Family) are planning to do a montage for the memorial, I think it will be about the only touching thing that the Anthony's have done for this child thus far. If, however, they signed some kind of movie deal, then my opinion of them goes back to they are dispicable.


IIRC, allegedly LA's girlfriend did a photo montage for one of the vigils. Is this producer's assistance needed? TIA

[ladeebug565]

I'm sure this has already been addressed, but over the weekend, I watched a re-run of the Dateline interview. Not sure of the date, but Cindy is wearing a red and black jacket.

Anywho, she talked about 7/15, when she took Caylee to see her GGF at the nursing home. She goes on to say that in the evening of 7/15, Casey came home and they all had a lovely evening together. Isn't this the night that they alledgedly had the big blow-out regarding the theft? Wasn't this the night that Cindy alledgedly tried to strangle Casey? Lovely evening?

[Dunlurken]

I see we are still talking about the memorial site. Geez Louise! Donate money to a Caylee fund for children who need an education, etc.

Caylee is "our" baby, who was allegedly murdered by her mom. I doubt we will have any more information about the COD, etc. When I say "our" I mean those of us on this board.

Jesse Grund brought me to tears today. Casey doesn't have a chance in heck to get off on this one.

My question is: What took her over the top?

[breezie]

I think it goes back to what I posted earlier. If the toys were given TO Caylee (in a manner of speaking), who do they actually belong to, once given? Caylee is dead. She cannot "own" anything. Everything of hers belongs to next of kin. So to say the toys came from Caylee and her grandparents is actually 100% correct. They toys were given to Caylee who is dead. Her next of kin chose to give them in her name to a charity. I don't understand the big deal really.


that spin must have hurt your back, SS. THEY TOOK CREDIT. The PUBLIC donated those toys in memory of Caylee. Anybody else would have *mentioned* that. Not that they themselves donated them.

[StillEG]

i'm sure this has already been addressed, but over the weekend, i watched a re-run of the dateline interview. Not sure of the date, but cindy is wearing a red and black jacket.

Anywho, she talked about 7/15, when she took caylee to see her ggf at the nursing home. She goes on to say that in the evening of 7/15, casey came home and they all had a lovely evening together. Isn't this the night that they alledgedly had the big blow-out regarding the theft? Wasn't this the night that cindy alledgedly tried to strangle casey? Lovely evening?


6/15


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[Mimi428]

I certainly wonder what George and Cindy are going to do when there is no more Diversions to throw out there and the time comes to face REALITY?! ...

I have no idea what they are going to do. I do know that they are & have been in the deepest pits of h#ll. As for 'face reality' - I don't think there is anything in this world that forces anyone to accept another person's reality.

In your reality, in my reality, Casey cold-bloodedly murdered Caylee. But that's just us. Other parents have lived lives full of complete denial when it comes to the their own children committing heinous actions.

Last I heard, Darlie Routier's mother is still on the "my daughter could not possibly have killed my grandchildren" train. So are Scott's parents. I haven't followed the Entwistle case but I believe his parents are, too.

Ted Bundy's mother (IIRC) could never accept that her son could POSSIBLY be guilty. Kenneth McDuff's mother Addie believed in her son's innocence her entire life (she reportedly marched to school & threatened one of his teachers with a gun when he was a kid because he got in trouble at school).

[Neffy]

IIRC, allegedly LA's girlfriend did a photo montage for one of the vigils. Is this producer's assistance needed? TIA

I tried a search on Skip. Bad name to have. SKIP and Navigate, SKIP to next page LOL. Skip is picked up on organic searches so having a verb for a name isn't google friendly at all. LOL.

[bchand]

True

Is Cameron Capena (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8124064&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)the room mate of Tony L, that heard what CA said to Tony the night of the 15th of July???


Campana, Cameron – Friend of Tony’s who was staying at Tony’s apartment. Has band, Fuzzy Red Balloons. Said he had not sold or supplied Casey with Xanax, nor had he seen her do it (admits to doing it himself). http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=2736501


http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6884

[Ellie]

I take issue that they were from the public and giving in Loving Memory of Caylee.

They were NOT from the Anthony's. This memorial was moved down the street because the Anthony's wanted no part of it in their yard.

The Anthony's get no kudos for the publics gesture.

Uhhh....yes they were from the Anthony's. Caylee Anthony to be exact. They were given to HER as gifts.... and her family gave them to other children in need. It's a wonderful, kind, warm-hearted gesture and I cannot imagine anyone finding fault with it. Caylee would probably be very happy to share her toys, and now again a little piece of Caylee will live on in the children who received the toys and stuffed animals.

[destiny1]

I think it goes back to what I posted earlier. If the toys were given TO Caylee (in a manner of speaking), who do they actually belong to, once given? Caylee is dead. She cannot "own" anything. Everything of hers belongs to next of kin. So to say the toys came from Caylee and her grandparents is actually 100% correct. They toys were given to Caylee who is dead. Her next of kin chose to give them in her name to a charity. I don't understand the big deal really.
Hi savannahStar, I agree with what you said, but Logic tells us that the NOK owns anything that belongs to the deceased. EMOTION on the other hand makes some people not like it.

My only question was their motives. Just bercause of the proximity of it to their home. They couldn't see it,

[Dunlurken]

I think George and Cindy think there are no more diversions to throw out there. Caylee is dead and I think in the hearts they now know it. And, they know who did it. There is no Zanny, the Nanny, there was no job.

Being stoopid is just that, being stoopid and letting your daughter run off and kill your grand daughter.

This is a slam dunk and I think George and Cindy need to step up to the plate and tell Casey to confess.

[steffaroob4]

IIRC, allegedly LA's girlfriend did a photo montage for one of the vigils. Is this producer's assistance needed? TIA

Honestly, it could have been someone that was just kind enough to archive the memorial for the family, there are great-grandparents they may not be able to see it as it was. I have seen people have someone to come in and video tape a funeral, because other members of the immediate family were still fighting for their lives in the hospital after an accident. I would like to think it was just a kind jesture. I don't think I would want any member of the family out near that memorial, some of the people I have seen there scare me.

[destiny1]

His sweet lovely and somewhat sympathetic demeanor, or the fact he is in a wheelchair? Are you implying they picked someone handicapped to deflect from them somehow? I thought NeJame was quite sympathetic also, whats the difference?
I am not implying anything I am wondering IF. Big difference. They have to do a makeover in the public eye. They also need to protect themselves against MR Baez, IMO.

[abby31250]

The A's atty. said those things would remain. Of course everything will have to be moved at some time. The flowers will die and notes will get wet. I would think that whomever the property belongs to would want everything moved at sometime in the future. JMO

Why is it up to the A, to do with the toys or any thing it not in there yard,

[??WHATthe??]

Well, thats great they came to love Caylee, the strangers, but these people loved her everyday intimately for the short span of her life. I am sure the people who are nice enough to leave things would be happy that the toys were going to be used by kids who needed them, Caylee does not need them. I guess there are some who may be mad, but oh well, donate to a missing kids organization in honor of Caylee, did these people expect the toys to remain in good condition, would it have been better had they had gotten soiled and tossed the garbage? And lets says thats what happened, then some would blame the Anthonys for not taking care of the shrine, so its a no win no matter what for these people.

You keep slamming the fact that the toys are in a better place... I have consistantly agreed!

you just can't handle the fact that I don't believe that the Anthony's are great and wonderful people, or that I think they didn't have the right to decide what to do with them...

Heck... I don't even think I agree that they "really" loved Caylee either! How ya like them apples Cat???

I have no respect for these people Cat... that's my story and I'm sticking to it! sorry... :wink:

ALL IMO

[SavannahStar]

that spin must have hurt your back, SS. THEY TOOK CREDIT. The PUBLIC donated those toys in memory of Caylee. Anybody else would have *mentioned* that. Not that they themselves donated them.


I think it's quite obvious, and known by everyone, even AT the mission and the parents whose children received these toys, that they came to the Anthonys THROUGH the public, from the public, FOR Caylee, in her memory. Sheesh, do you think the Anthonys implied or wanted to give the impression they went out and bought a gazillion stuffed toys for the mission? :confused:

[canada]

Jesse Grund brought me to tears today. Casey doesn't have a chance in heck to get off on this one.

Jessie brought me to tears today too. I cannot imagine his pain. Jessie and his family loved that little girl and he planned a life with Casey and Caylee.
I am sure he will testify and it will be interesting. Break out the kleenex for that one.

[5boxersmom]

Campana, Cameron – Friend of Tony’s who was staying at Tony’s apartment. Has band, Fuzzy Red Balloons. Said he had not sold or supplied Casey with Xanax, nor had he seen her do it (admits to doing it himself). http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=2736501


http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6884

Thanks.:thumbsup:

[NikkiG77058]

Dinner Troll, that doesn't mean JACK! In the course of the investigation, if they can find any proof linking any one of the other Anthony's or anybody else for that matter to those remains and that crime scene, they will end up in the cell next to Casey. There is no such thing as "evident by the fact that ONLY Casey is sitting in jail..." when an investigation is still ongoing and facts are still open to be shed light on.

If LE thought for one second that Lee or whoever else was involved in Caylee's murder, they would be sitting in a cell next to Casey already.

They have never even been referred to as persons of interest so again, where are you getting this stuff from?? :confused:

Let me put it this way, January, WHO and specifically WHY do you think others are involved in Caylee's murder? TIA

[Cury-us Coyote]

I tried a search on Skip. Bad name to have. SKIP and Navigate, SKIP to next page LOL. Skip is picked up on organic searches so having a verb for a name isn't google friendly at all. LOL.

IIRC, his image was capture on video.
jmo

[KatieKates]

Credit for the memorial toys given to needy children, should ONLY be given to the PUBLIC.

The public who have searched, waited, and now mourn the loss of her.

If the Anthonys take any credit for the donations, it would make me SICK.

jmo

Why should credit be given to people who'd rather have toys get destroyed in bad weather than give in Caylee's name to a mission like the one the A's chose?

[Dunlurken]

Credit for the memorial toys given to needy children, should ONLY be given to the PUBLIC.

The public who have searched, waited, and now mourn the loss of her.

If the Anthonys take any credit for the donations, it would make me SICK.

jmo

They are dammed if they do, and dammed if they don't. They are in a no win situation.

[SavannahStar]

I think George and Cindy think there are no more diversions to throw out there. Caylee is dead and I think in the hearts they now know it. And, they know who did it. There is no Zanny, the Nanny, there was no job.

Being stoopid is just that, being stoopid and letting your daughter run off and kill your grand daughter.

This is a slam dunk and I think George and Cindy need to step up to the plate and tell Casey to confess.

Oh right. That'll do it, easy. Just walk into the jail and demand Casey confess. (On video, a matter of public record and our state's wonderful Sunshine Laws..... and then on NG that same night.) Like they can get Casey to do anything. They haven't had much luck at that before she went to jail.

It'll never happen.

I hope if Casey doesn't confess, now THAT doesn't get blamed on the Anthonys. But I can see where this is going....

[breezie]

I think it's quite obvious, and known by everyone, even AT the mission and the parents whose children received these toys, that they came to the Anthonys THROUGH the public, from the public, FOR Caylee, in her memory. Sheesh, do you think the Anthonys implied or wanted to give the impression they went out and bought a gazillion stuffed toys for the mission? :confused:

Everyone KNOWS it, except for the Anthonys, apparently. Where did they say the PUBLIC donated them? Where? All I see is that the ANTHONY GRANDPARENTS donated them. THAT is the point.

The toys should go to the mission. It's just that the Anthonys are trying to portray this nice gesture when they didn't even leave their home. Same sh!t, different day from those folks.

[klock777]

It came up a few nights ago when the discussion was about drugs being involved. I didn't know the name either and got told to 'go read'. Have yet to locate him. Let me know if you find him!

TIA

Another name I am unfamiliar with is Eric Baker - I think that wa the name. In the document dump with the computer searches, the computer tech was asked if there was a search done for this person - but none found.
Who is Eric Baker and why are the LE asking if any searches were done for him?
I have not heard this Cameron C. name you are talking about either...did you find out anything?

[FrankieBones1]

Jessie brought me to tears today too. I cannot imagine his pain. Jessie and his family loved that little girl and he planned a life with Casey and Caylee.
I am sure he will testify and it will be interesting. Break out the kleenex for that one.
For those that haven't seen it yet, here is a link to the story and the video. It's from the Today Show site.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28347850/

[Cury-us Coyote]

Campana, Cameron – Friend of Tony’s who was staying at Tony’s apartment. Has band, Fuzzy Red Balloons. Said he had not sold or supplied Casey with Xanax, nor had he seen her do it (admits to doing it himself). http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=2736501


http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6884

Could be spelling problem?
imo

[Dunlurken]

No one knows what the motive was. No one knows if it was good or bad motive. If it was really selfish, or if it was self-less! We can all speculate and get our feathers in a ruffle, because we all have an opinion on it and EVERYONES opinion conflicts with at least 1 other person here. I just hope that we can all look at the end result and know that Caylee made several children VERY VERY happy this Christmas. And thank YOU to everyone that put something out there to HELP CAYLEE pay it forward for these kids. We should agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Very kind post. I think Caylee would appreciate what you just wrote.

[steffaroob4]

Campana, Cameron – Friend of Tony’s who was staying at Tony’s apartment. Has band, Fuzzy Red Balloons. Said he had not sold or supplied Casey with Xanax, nor had he seen her do it (admits to doing it himself). http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=2736501


http://helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6884

Thanks, I remember the Xanax now, so many names in this story.

[breezie]

Why should credit be given to people who'd rather have toys get destroyed in bad weather than give in Caylee's name to a mission like the one the A's chose?

The Anthonys' attorney chose. They've thrown away everything else ever done in Caylee's name. Just like their daughter threw away Caylee.

Cindy: You are a lot like me.

Casey: I am a lot like you.

Like mother like daughter.

[5boxersmom]

He is the one that smokes pot....Casey labled him that way from jail to Cindy

Oh yeah I remember that now. :rolleyes:

[bchand]

Everyone KNOWS it, except for the Anthonys, apparently. Where did they say the PUBLIC donated them? Where? All I see is that the ANTHONY GRANDPARENTS donated them. THAT is the point.

The toys should go to the mission. It's just that the Anthonys are trying to portray this nice gesture when they didn't even leave their home. Same sh!t, different day from those folks.

This seems to have affected at least one future juror:

Some parents said they were praying for the Anthonys and a few even said they sympathize with Casey Anthony, who stands accused of murdering her two-year-old daughter. She could go to prison for life is she's convicted. A tentative trial date has been set for March of 2009.

"I hope the courts understand that she was a young mom and there are hard times," said Jennifer Gonzalez.

OMG they think Casey was going through tough times just like they are?

http://www.wftv.com/news/18334836/detail.html

[KatieKates]

The Anthonys' attorney chose. They've thrown away everything else ever done in Caylee's name. Just like their daughter threw away Caylee.

Cindy: You are a lot like me.

Casey: I am a lot like you.

Like mother like daughter.

They dontated toys from the memorial that would have been wasted. Let's not get too dramatic over it. Although, I don't have the right to tell you how to react, so go for it. LOL

[Dunlurken]

Anyone know when we will get the toxicology results from Caylee's hair. I think that will be very telling. JMO.

[*MoonRider*]

We all wish that Caylee would have been found in August. Danielle Van Dam went missing on 2/1 and her remains were found on 2/27 She was totally skeletonized after 27 days. I don't think much would have changed if Caylee were found earlier except we wouldn't have had to listen to George & Cindy for months. There may have been more physical evidence to convict the odious creature before Tropical Storm Faye. Either way I just very thankful that she was found. I was always a believer that she put her in a dumpster and would never be found. JMO

[Neffy]

Where did you see that they put their name on it? I read the link and nothing in it said they included their name. Did you stop to think that maybe someone from the mission said the toys were from Caylee and the Anthony's before you decided to place the blame on them?

Did I stop and think? Well one of us certainly did. Of course someone from the mission relayed this. Did I think the Anthony's were there? Of course not.

Now if your asking me if I think someone from the mission made this up to tell a child my answer is NO. If it was relayed by someone at the mission that's what they were told.

[NikkiG77058]

that spin must have hurt your back, SS. THEY TOOK CREDIT. The PUBLIC donated those toys in memory of Caylee. Anybody else would have *mentioned* that. Not that they themselves donated them.


:thumbsup: spin must have hurt her back - that is hilarious!!!

When is the memorial supposed to be held?

[KatieKates]

Anyone know when we will get the toxicology results from Caylee's hair. I think that will be very telling. JMO.

I don't think they came back with that yet.

[bchand]

Could be spelling problem?
imo


On MyFoxOrlando's part? Probably.

[num1barb]

-snipped-

YOU may be overlooking the little lies, but they are totting them up, keeping score, in THEIR minds. All those deceptions are very rewarding - they just further prove how clever THEY are - & cement the idea that YOU are stupid, unnecessary & a pain in the drain to them (except when you are handy for money or other things they want).

JMO


I was thinking about this very thing over the weekend, imagining how much perverse pleasure the odious one got in the month that she and Caylee were away from the anthony home.

Each time cindy would call and beg to talk to Caylee, beg casey to bring the angel for a visit, I bet casey was laughing inside, taunting her mother in her mind while making up stories about Caylee being with invisi-nanny.

And all those times that casey would arrange a meeting with her mom, then use the time when she KNEW her mom wasn't home (because she KNEW her mom was waiting for her and Caylee somewhere), all the while casey slips into the house to get things she wanted/needed. I bet casey had a stitch in her side from laughing at her mom's desperation.

MOO

[Dunlurken]

I don't think they came back with that yet.

I'm thinking another two weeks at least. Have the Anthony's planned any "service" for Caylee? Just curious. I stated the other day, and got blasted out of the water, as usual, that the remains will have to be kept until after the trial. JMO.

[playnice]

His sweet lovely and somewhat sympathetic demeanor, or the fact he is in a wheelchair? Are you implying they picked someone handicapped to deflect from them somehow? I thought NeJame was quite sympathetic also, whats the difference?

He probably told them one peek out of their mouth and he would be wheeling out of there real fast. Probably told them that was the only way he would take their case. I think they are afraid now and more willing to listen. Once they feel secure LE isnt going to charge them with obstruction it may start up all over again.

[KatieKates]

I'm thinking another two weeks at least. Have the Anthony's planned any "service" for Caylee? Just curious. I stated the other day, and got blasted out of the water, as usual, that the remains will have to be kept until after the trial. JMO.

I believe they said after the holidays they were going to have a private service. IIRC.

[Dunlurken]

Mallory, NeJane was lawyering before Caylee's remains were found. Before the Larry King interview, the new lawyer role imo is to soften the Anthony's, imo. His demeanor is likable, and sympathetic toward the Anthonys' maybe the wheel chair has an influence. who knows? Everyone seems to like him, Why?? ..... softspoken and sweet. Like me, Like my clients. Please give these grieving parents a break, The grieving was 6 months ago, when they smelled their dead baby in the trunk. I detest what they have been doing for 6 months. also I must admit the cashing in infuriates me. gogo

Don't judge someone until you walk in their shoes. And I certainly hope and pray you haven't walked in shoes similar to the Anthony's. JMO.

[destiny1]

Mallory, NeJane was lawyering before Caylee's remains were found. Before the Larry King interview, the new lawyer role imo is to soften the Anthony's, imo. His demeanor is likable, and sympathetic toward the Anthonys' maybe the wheel chair has an influence. who knows? Everyone seems to like him, Why?? ..... softspoken and sweet. Like me, Like my clients. Please give these grieving parents a break, The grieving was 6 months ago, when they smelled their dead baby in the trunk. I detest what they have been doing for 6 months. also I must admit the cashing in infuriates me. gogo
My sentiments exactly.

What infuriated me was on one interview where Cindy started with "be gentle with me", started telling the world about how little sleep she had, and ended up being ASKED to talk about Caylee.

I really wish that they would stop now.

[??WHATthe??]

Yeah, I am just fine with your position regarding these people, I don't agree and think its pretty evil, but I can handle it, I am not sure where you are getting the fact I am enraged or bewildered and bothered by your position?

It is beyond obvious you are going to find fault with them, and everything they do for the rest of their pathetic lives, I dont think its constructive or healthy, but its not my life, so to each their own. For you to even imply these people didn't love Caylee? I guess its just sad.

They love in their own way I spose... I just don't and can't accept how they have handled this situation, involving the granddaughter you say they love, in this manner. They, have showed support for one person and one only through all of this, and that is Casey. They NEVER even looked for their granddaughter! Not one search! This whole situation is sad! And for the fact that even in just one person "me" they have left to question whether or not they infact "did" love their granddaughter is beyond sad! There is a cause and effect in life Cat...

Their actions in this have effectively posed questions to their motives and concerns...:sad:

I mean no disrespect to anyone on this board... but I do feel strongly that this little girl was less than important to the Anthony's...

All IMO...

[Dunlurken]

I believe they said after the holidays they were going to have a private service. IIRC.

That would be nice. No media, let them grieve in private.

[Gaelic-Lass]

Maybe they are trying to move on with their lives and given the time of year need to get into the Christmas spirit by gathering up the family and reminiscing about happier times. Also, they may be practicing the unconditional love that so many people share..... forgiveness. As for Caylee, she is now just a painful memory that needs healing.

CC, I know I am not going to get this out correctly, so bear with me. I think I understand what you are saying but I don't get the point about getting into the Christmas spirit, and Caylee being "just a painful memory". I lost my best friend and closest confidant (besides my DH) - my sister - 2 months ago Saturday. I am doing my best to be " "Christmassy" for my grandkids, but bottom line, there is no Christmas spirit at my home this year. While my sister's death and her cancer are painful memories for me, she certainly isn't. I still cry everyday and miss her horribly. I can understand, to a degree, what G&C should be feeling; however I don't think they should be worried about getting into the Christmas spirit.

I'm sorry - I know I am not getting this out right. I'll go back to lurking.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Toys Left For Caylee Will Be Donated To Homeless Children
(Search Warrant may become public today)
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18333551/index.html

[Dunlurken]

Read what Mark Klass said about it on NG.

Mark Klass is not the Anthony's. His daughter was not killed by a family member.

Snipped to address. JMO

[KKKKKKatie]

CC, I know I am not going to get this out correctly, so bear with me. I think I understand what you are saying but I don't get the point about getting into the Christmas spirit, and Caylee being "just a painful memory". I lost my best friend and closest confidant (besides my DH) - my sister - 2 months ago Saturday. I am doing my best to be " "Christmassy" for my grandkids, but bottom line, there is no Christmas spirit at my home this year. While my sister's death and her cancer are painful memories for me, she certainly isn't. I still cry everyday and miss her horribly. I can understand, to a degree, what G&C should be feeling; however I don't think they should be worried about getting into the Christmas spirit.

I'm sorry - I know I am not getting this out right. I'll go back to lurking.


O/T but I wanted to tell you how sorry I am for your loss. I lost my sister, to breast cancer, in 2005. 7 weeks after my Dad passed. It does get better....but the Holidays will never be the same

:rose:

[destiny1]

I wish that
The Anthonys would come clean.
The Anthonys would stop acting the way they do.
The anthonys would get a second chance and go away to start over.

However, their past actions combined with circumstances surrounding this murder case have led many of us to believe that they are covering for the inmate and possibly have committed several crimes in the process.

although wishing them no ill, there are things that they have done IMO that are fair game in the discussion of this case.

[KKKKKKatie]

Toys Left For Caylee Will Be Donated To Homeless Children
(Search Warrant may become public today)
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/18333551/index.html


will be interesting to see what was in it....

[kitty1182]

For those that haven't seen it yet, here is a link to the story and the video. It's from the Today Show site.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28347850/

Bless his heart..It's a shame his DNA didn't come back as the daddy of Caylee..She would probally be talking to Santa now and looking at all the pretty Christmas lights..:sad:

[crimeq]

The funny thing about the fuss over the memorial is, we don't even know if it was the A's idea, the lawyer or a friend could have suggested it, no matter how it happened I am glad they others will get some joy from the toys.

Conway seems to be a very nice person, so far I have been very impressed with him.


I suspect the way the memorial was handled eventually was at the guidance of Conway. IMO, the Anthonys would have handled the new memorial exactly the same way Lee A handled the one at their home--ripping it up, tearing it down. I think Conway is guiding them toward more moderation--at this time, they appear to be listening a little bit.

I, too, am pleased that the stuffed toys went to children at the shelter. I understand the need for some people to leave a tangible object for this little girl--a stuffed toy--it's a meaningful gesture for them to make to Caylee's memory. I am equally glad that after that loving gesture is made, a needy child benefits from that grace, too.

Everyone wins--it's just that I don't think the Anthonys thought of this way of handling it. They would have tossed them like they did the stuffed animals last summer; like Lee did with the recent memorial site at the House of Anthony. Trashed in anger.

It amazes me that Cindy could practically damn the public for not "getting off their azz" to find Caylee. Well, the public DID find Caylee, and now Cindy doesn't want any of the public involved even in expressing grief and sorrow over the tragic end of this bright little beauty's life.

[PROPROS]

For those that haven't seen it yet, here is a link to the story and the video. It's from the Today Show site.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28347850/Sad video..IMO, Jesse is the one that Casey let get away. She and Caylee might have had a great life with him and The Grunds.mo

[Ellie]

They are dammed if they do, and dammed if they don't. They are in a no win situation.

Around here they are, that's for sure. I'm glad none of us really matter.

[barskin&co.]

I'm thinking another two weeks at least. Have the Anthony's planned any "service" for Caylee? Just curious. I stated the other day, and got blasted out of the water, as usual, that the remains will have to be kept until after the trial. JMO.

That's not true. The remains will be given to the family very soon. The burial will not take place until after the defense experts examine them.

[Dunlurken]

Bless his heart..It's a shame his DNA didn't come back as the daddy of Caylee..She would probally be talking to Santa now and looking at all the pretty Christmas lights..:sad:

And, bless his heart for giving up his DNA, which made it possible that we had Caylee's DNA because he was proven not to be the father. Poor guy! He loved that baby as if she was his own.

He even said Casey "changed".

[kitty1182]

Take comfort...Caylee is with someone FAR better than Santa and is in a place of Perpetual Light.

We will miss her-but she is in eternal happiness!
:rose:

I agree with that!!!

[?noanswer]

IMO, the decision to which Missing Persons Organization the remaining trust funds are donated will be interesting and perhaps provide insight into the extent of BC's influence.
jmo

I thought the trust fund agreement said it could be used for funeral expenses and if anything left, it would go to KFN and (the name escapes me at the moment, but it is the one that is kinda tied in with KFN). JMO

[*MoonRider*]

Mark Klass is not the Anthony's. His daughter was not killed by a family member.

Snipped to address. JMO

Klass took a lie detector test right away so they wouldn't waste time on him. Anthony's refused. JMO

[Dunlurken]

That's not true. The remains will be given to the family very soon. The burial will not take place until after the defense experts examine them.

We keep debating that, you and me. If you have a link, I would like to see it. You, of all people, should know how the defense "works". They will not let Caylee be buried.

[Dunlurken]

Klass took a lie detector test right away so they wouldn't waste time on him. Anthony's refused. JMO

And your point? George or Cindy killed Caylee? People, be very careful what you post here. JMO. You are setting the defense up big time. JMO. (Guess we know which side of the fence I sit on today.) LOL

[steffaroob4]

We keep debating that, you and me. If you have a link, I would like to see it. You, of all people, should know how the defense "works". They will not let Caylee be buried.

Caylee's grandparents, (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8124064&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)Cindy and George Anthony, plan to have her funeral after the holidays. They will hold a private memorial to honor their granddaughter and also are looking into holding a public community memorial.

A second autopsy will be done on Caylee's remains by an expert on the defense team of Casey Anthony.

They could cremate her if they wish, once she released from ME whoever has the power to make the decision can do what they/casey want.

[FrankieBones1]

That's not true. The remains will be given to the family very soon. The burial will not take place until after the defense experts examine them.
You are correct, Barskin.
I think folks get confused with the Scott Peterson case. I think it was his mom that wanted to wait until after her son's trial to have a memorial service for Scott's wife, Lacey.

[*MoonRider*]

And your point? George or Cindy killed Caylee? People, be very careful what you post here. JMO. You are setting the defense up big time. JMO. (Guess we know which side of the fence I sit on today.) LOL

I NEVER said that. My point was that they did not cooperate. JMO

[Neffy]

We keep debating that, you and me. If you have a link, I would like to see it. You, of all people, should know how the defense "works". They will not let Caylee be buried.

Considering Baez is leading I wouldn't be surprised. Personally I have no idea what the defense can gleen and why the second look. You can't get more general in Casey's defense then what the ME or Orlando has ruled.

[Dunlurken]

Caylee's grandparents, (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8124064&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1)Cindy and George Anthony, plan to have her funeral after the holidays. They will hold a private memorial to honor their granddaughter and also are looking into holding a public community memorial.

A second autopsy will be done on Caylee's remains by an expert on the defense team of Casey Anthony.

They could cremate her if they wish, once she released from ME whoever has the power to make the decision can do what they/casey want.


From your link:

"Caylee's grandparents, Cindy and George Anthony, plan to have her funeral after the holidays. They will hold a private memorial to honor their granddaughter and also are looking into holding a public community memorial. "

Says nothing about the remains being buried and doesn't give a date, except after the Holidays. JMO.

[destiny1]

We keep debating that, you and me. If you have a link, I would like to see it. You, of all people, should know how the defense "works". They will not let Caylee be buried.
Hi Dunnie, There is a link to the anthonys attorney's statement upthread. Possibly on page 1 or 2. Not sure.

He said the family still has no definite plans as to when they will hold a memorial service and funeral for Caylee.

then on another post, there was a link to a statdement that said they were considering both a public and a private service and that it would probably be after the Holiday.

[barskin&co.]

Bless his heart..It's a shame his DNA didn't come back as the daddy of Caylee..She would probally be talking to Santa now and looking at all the pretty Christmas lights..:sad:

I watched Jesse this morning, and his grief and more particularly his tears were so genuine, I couldn't help noticing what a difference it was with PPOFICA and her constant finger wiping gestures. All she ever does is cover up for lack of tears. I saw the real thing moving down Jesse's cheeks. He truly loved Caylee; he was truly devistated.

[DefyGravity]

I am expressing my opinion . the smell of death by both Cindy and George became the smell of pizza, rotting. L.E said there was no pizza. George was petrified that it was either Caylee or Casey. Defending my daughter, I understand that, but to interfere in the finding of your baby?? the sightings, the bullpoopoo.? I sympathize greatly with their tragedy, and I hope toGod that never happens to anyone , but I am disturbed by their actions to prevent LE to find their baby.

I just figure that deep down they probably knew what the outcome would be, but when their daughter consistently proclaimed her innocence, as parents they hoped against hope that that was the case. They stood by their daughter. If they out and out did anything illegal, they will have to face the consequences. But the way I see it they supported their daughter and held onto a slender thread of hope that Casey did nothing wrong.

[FrankieBones1]

Klass took a lie detector test right away so they wouldn't waste time on him. Anthony's refused. JMOThis is so true. Anyone with something to hide never wants to take a polygraph test. This is what makes me think that they knew 'something' as to what happen to Casey. Maybe some of the questions would have been, "Did you smell decomposition in the trunk of the car? Did you actually meet Zenaida over the past two years?"

And to Dunlurking: Just because someone is asked to take a polygraph doesn't mean they are being accused of murder. No wonder you get 'blasted off this board' as you say.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Media Advisory 12/22 (1 page pdf)
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/12/22/media.advisory.pdf

[Ellie]

Thirty one days Casey was gone with Caylee. And not once did Cindy ever say she tried to get around Casey and talk to Caylee by contacting the babysitter. She had no number and she did not try to get it. Call Directory Assistance!

Cindy lied on NG when she said Casey got a phone call from
Caylee who was with the nanny right after Casey was brought home from Tony's by Cindy. The phone call where Casey said Caylee was telling her about her book. Cindy lied. There was NO CALL FROM A BABYSITTER because there was no babysitter.

Ok, either my own lack of sleep is catching up to me or I'm thoroughly confused here by your post. 1, I thought that Casey and Caylee were supposedly "together" during that 31 days, 'bonding' while on a vacation together in what, Jacksonville? Now why would Cindy call the BABYSITTER locally if she was told they were all together in Jacksonville?

Secondly, IIRC, CASEY said she got a call from Caylee who told her about the book she was reading. CASEY told CINDY that. Cindy didn't start this lie, she merely relayed what was told to her.

[Dunlurken]

Hi Dunnie, There is a link to the anthonys attorney's statement upthread. Possibly on page 1 or 2. Not sure.

He said the family still has no definite plans as to when they will hold a memorial service and funeral for Caylee.

then on another post, there was a link to a statdement that said they were considering both a public and a private service and that it would probably be after the Holiday.

I'm curious about something, as always. Wouldn't you think that Casey, as the next of kin, who has not been found guilty YET, could determine when the funeral is? Cindy and George don't have much to say about this. Baez is holding all the cards. JMO.

[steffaroob4]

From your link:

"Caylee's grandparents, Cindy and George Anthony, plan to have her funeral after the holidays. They will hold a private memorial to honor their granddaughter and also are looking into holding a public community memorial. "

Says nothing about the remains being buried and doesn't give a date, except after the Holidays. JMO.

Where do you think they will keep her remains over the next few years? Once they do the 2nd autopsy there is no reason to keep her in storage, I have never heard of such a thing.

IIRC Danielle Van Dam was cremated before the trial.

[SavannahStar]

I am expressing my opinion . the smell of death by both Cindy and George became the smell of pizza, rotting. L.E said there was no pizza. George was petrified that it was either Caylee or Casey. Defending my daughter, I understand that, but to interfere in the finding of your baby?? the sightings, the bullpoopoo.? I sympathize greatly with their tragedy, and I hope toGod that never happens to anyone , but I am disturbed by their actions to prevent LE to find their baby.

Well here's the thing, I don't believe any of their words or actions prevented LE from finding Caylee. Not at all. Nor did any of their words and actions diminish the case against Casey.

What I DO think was that LE made a HUGE mistake in not following up on the August tips. If they had, Caylee would have been found four months sooner. And the case against Casey may have been even greater.

All in my opinion.

[barskin&co.]

We keep debating that, you and me. If you have a link, I would like to see it. You, of all people, should know how the defense "works". They will not let Caylee be buried.

We keep debating that? I do not recall ever discussing this subject. The defense is not going to prevent a burial; that doesn't look good for them. They just have resquested a second sutopsy, which they will perform.

[breezie]

They dontated toys from the memorial that would have been wasted. Let's not get too dramatic over it. Although, I don't have the right to tell you how to react, so go for it. LOL

No, you don't. but you'll try. I agree with the action, just not the *public relations*aspect of the Anthonys trying to do a good deed. They just want them gone. The Attorney, I'll bet, turned it into a *gesture*.

[?noanswer]

I'm thinking another two weeks at least. Have the Anthony's planned any "service" for Caylee? Just curious. I stated the other day, and got blasted out of the water, as usual, that the remains will have to be kept until after the trial. JMO.


I think their atty. said the service would be after Christmas. The defense is also going to perform their own autopsy. That could be a factor in determining when the service will occur. JMO

[beetlebrow]

Media Advisory 12/22 (1 page pdf)
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/12/22/media.advisory.pdf

Once notifyed that the burial site was clear, the defense team said they wopuld NOT be responding to the sight........:thumbdown:

[PROPROS]

Can't imagine the pain... but would never deface the memory of my beautiful grandchild and disrespect the people of the public that have come to love her and that paid their respects to her...

IMO, they are a part of the reason the public is grieving to badly and this was just a slap in the face to donate those toys in their name! Sure they included Caylee in that donation announcement... but to put their name on it was just a PR move at best! :wink:I just got on line a few minutes ago.....Did the Anthony's tell the kids (at the shelter)that the toys came from Caylee and "them"? mo

[beetlebrow]

bless cindy's heart for throwing him under the bus. I suspect jesse of kidnapping Caylee and also Amy, I think maybe they are ZANAIDA .

May I ask why you think Jesse and Amy would kidnap and then murder Caylee?

[??WHATthe??]

Once notifyed that the burial site was clear, the defense team said they wopuld NOT be responding to the sight........:thumbdown:

Hmmmm... again, somthing they spout as "important" just gets blown off! :blink:

[Cury-us Coyote]

Sad video..IMO, Jesse is the one that Casey let get away. She and Caylee might have had a great life with him and The Grunds.mo

Apparently JG has also obtained legal counsel.
jmo

[destiny1]

I am expressing my opinion . the smell of death by both Cindy and George became the smell of pizza, rotting. L.E said there was no pizza. George was petrified that it was either Caylee or Casey. Defending my daughter, I understand that, but to interfere in the finding of your baby?? the sightings, the bullpoopoo.? I sympathize greatly with their tragedy, and I hope toGod that never happens to anyone , but I am disturbed by their actions to prevent LE to find their baby.
the fight.
After the fight.
where exactly did she spend the night?
The smell of decomposition.
The sampling of materials from the trunk.
The "rotting food" story.
zenaida
Jesse
Tony
Amy
Kiomarie

It goes on and on.

They know.

[marshmallow]

Well here's the thing, I don't believe any of their words or actions prevented LE from finding Caylee. Not at all. Nor did any of their words and actions diminish the case against Casey.

What I DO think was that LE made a HUGE mistake in not following up on the August tips. If they had, Caylee would have been found four months sooner. And the case against Casey may have been even greater.

All in my opinion.



I think the point is that they did lie, they did mislead, they did with hold. I don't think charges are in order, due to their loss but they did do those things. Why the need to paint them as helpless victims of their daughter, the public, and law enforcement?

why is it so easy to point blame at LE yet not accept that the Anthonys did the things they did?

[beetlebrow]

Media Advisory 12/22 (1 page pdf)
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/12/22/media.advisory.pdf

Thanks for the link Cury, I guess everyone here is so bust arguing they missed the fact that the defense now does not want to examine the scene where Caylee was found :tongue:

[barskin&co.]

May I ask why you think Jesse and Amy would kidnap and then murder Caylee?

I'm sure gogo was joking. You were joking, weren't you, gogo?

[destiny1]

Apparently JG has also obtained legal counsel.
jmo

as he should!
anybody that has been in contact with the inmate is going to be preyed upon in some manner by the defense attorney IMO. Nothing and nobody is off-limits.

[PROPROS]

I'm sure this has already been addressed, but over the weekend, I watched a re-run of the Dateline interview. Not sure of the date, but Cindy is wearing a red and black jacket.

Anywho, she talked about 7/15, when she took Caylee to see her GGF at the nursing home. She goes on to say that in the evening of 7/15, Casey came home and they all had a lovely evening together. Isn't this the night that they alledgedly had the big blow-out regarding the theft? Wasn't this the night that Cindy alledgedly tried to strangle Casey? Lovely evening?Yes....but maybe strangling Casey was considered a "lovely evening". mo

[Cury-us Coyote]

I thought the trust fund agreement said it could be used for funeral expenses and if anything left, it would go to KFN and (the name escapes me at the moment, but it is the one that is kinda tied in with KFN). JMO

Perhaps the name your searching for is the evasive Never Lose Hope Fundation?
http://helpfindcaylee.usualbeings.com/images/September%2025th%20Trust%20Agreement%20%282%29%282 %29.pdf

[5boxersmom]

Apparently JG has also obtained legal counsel.
jmo

I would have too after hearing what Cindy told the FBI about him. :ohmy:

[beetlebrow]

Hmmmm... again, somthing they spout as "important" just gets blown off! :blink:

Not only did they spout it was important but the site was also the reason for some of the court challenges......hot air = reasonable doubt IMO

[destiny1]

Hmmmm... again, somthing they spout as "important" just gets blown off! :blink:
Baez has proven himself to be a professional whiner IMO.

[5boxersmom]

On Fox News now. What are they talking about the smell? That when the MR called in August the smell was mentioned. When was this? Who is saying this? I doubt there would be a smell after two months. imo

[CeeKay]

Sad video..IMO, Jesse is the one that Casey let get away. She and Caylee might have had a great life with him and The Grunds.mo


It makes one wonder....Does Jesse regret that he took the paternity test? Things would possibly be different. I feel sorry for the Grund family throughout all of this. Out of all the people involved with Caylee, Jesse and his family seem to be most heartbroken at the twist of events. My prayers are with them.

[happy2bme]

This seems to have affected at least one future juror:

Some parents said they were praying for the Anthonys and a few even said they sympathize with Casey Anthony, who stands accused of murdering her two-year-old daughter. She could go to prison for life is she's convicted. A tentative trial date has been set for March of 2009.

"I hope the courts understand that she was a young mom and there are hard times," said Jennifer Gonzalez.

OMG they think Casey was going through tough times just like they are?

http://www.wftv.com/news/18334836/detail.html

I would like to know what this persons definition of "hard times'?

[beetlebrow]

May I ask why you think Jesse and Amy would kidnap and then murder Caylee?

Bumping for GOGO.....I am curious.....

[Syd'sMiMi]

:thumbsup: spin must have hurt her back - that is hilarious!!!

When is the memorial supposed to be held?


I would just bet the A's sell exclusive rights to the private memorial to Inside Edition just like Anna Nicole's funeral. This will probably be their last chance at making enough money so they don't have to work. Anybody wanna bet???

[Dtviewer3]

I think it's pretty evil to lie to the police and trash them when your grand daughter is missing and all they are trying to do is FIND HER FOR YOU.

I think its' pretty evil to blame other people for what your own child has done.

It think it's pretty evil to be so unwilling to examine your own faults and those of your daughter honestly and openly so that you can find your missing grand daughter that you waste precious time trying to save face and your family's public image.

Read what Mark Klass said about it on NG.

Yep, and I think its beyond evil to make excuses to justify that the Anthonys' have done ALL of the above.

Evil and disgusting come to mind..........

[PROPROS]

I have no idea what they are going to do. I do know that they are & have been in the deepest pits of h#ll. As for 'face reality' - I don't think there is anything in this world that forces anyone to accept another person's reality.

In your reality, in my reality, Casey cold-bloodedly murdered Caylee. But that's just us. Other parents have lived lives full of complete denial when it comes to the their own children committing heinous actions.

Last I heard, Darlie Routier's mother is still on the "my daughter could not possibly have killed my grandchildren" train. So are Scott's parents. I haven't followed the Entwistle case but I believe his parents are, too.

Ted Bundy's mother (IIRC) could never accept that her son could POSSIBLY be guilty. Kenneth McDuff's mother Addie believed in her son's innocence her entire life (she reportedly marched to school & threatened one of his teachers with a gun when he was a kid because he got in trouble at school).That is something I have never understood...These murderers.....have these "extremly" devoted (never my child) parents.

[breezie]

I'm sure gogo was joking. You were joking, weren't you, gogo?

I believe she was repeating what Cindy said as she threw Jessie, Amy et al under said Casey bus.

[beetlebrow]

I would just bet the A's sell exclusive rights to the private memorial to Inside Edition just like Anna Nicole's funeral. This will probably be their last chance at making enough money so they don't have to work. Anybody wanna bet???

Only if they can do it where th public cannot find out :biggrin:

[destiny1]

Their words and actions made most people hate Casey more. It backfired as it should have. They made a circus out of a tragedy and it was a terrible thing to do. All Cindy's conniving came to nothing.

Three people in LE messed it up for the whole office. They will have to pay a price for that too.


the anthonys did a lot of things and they didn't prevent caylee from being found but IMO, their intent was to steer this investigation and the intent was to misinform and deceive for their own purposes.

[bchand]

Sad video..IMO, Jesse is the one that Casey let get away. She and Caylee might have had a great life with him and The Grunds.mo

And Jesse said, in one of his statements, that he was very upset when he read on Casey's MySpace or Facebook that she wanted to be just like her mother when she grew up. That really upset him. Says alot to me.

[??WHATthe??]

I just got on line a few minutes ago.....Did the Anthony's tell the kids (at the shelter)that the toys came from Caylee and "them"? mo

Hey Pro...

I never insinuated that, (um... yeah I kinda did in one post way back, responding to someone else)... but not really, what I meant was that it was simply a PR moment for them...

This is the first time I have ever seen a memorial taken down and donated to charity. Not that it's a bad thing... I think it's a great idea! I just don't think it was the Anthony's idea... thats all!:wink:

[Dunlurken]

the anthonys did a lot of things and they didn't prevent caylee from being found but IMO, their intent was to steer this investigation and the intent was to misinform and deceive for their own purposes.

I think they thought Caylee would be found, alive. No malice on their part. However, they had a reality check when the remains are their grand daughters. JMO.

[bchand]

I would like to know what this persons definition of "hard times'?

Well this woman is currently in the shelter with her children. I'm sure she'd give her eye teeth to be in the cushy position that Casey was in - living at home, having all expenses paid by her parents.

[destiny1]

the fox news anchor as we speak is talking about the meter man, creating suspicion. She is practically saying his story smells. "how is it he reported a smell, then finds the body. something wrong here" my God, can you believe fox news. what the heck is going on, and her TH are both agreeing with her. He might be the killer??Dear God help us. .

I have Jayne and geraldo on IGGY and am about to totally write off the defense(errr I meant FOX).

They certainly seem to have a vested interest in running LE and the state into the ground.

[beetlebrow]

the fox news anchor as we speak is talking about the meter man, creating suspicion. She is practically saying his story smells. "how is it he reported a smell, then finds the body. something wrong here" my God, can you believe fox news. what the heck is going on, and her TH are both agreeing with her. He might be the killer??Dear God help us. .

They do this to keep the story alive IMO.....ratings baby!!!

What a sad world we live in :bored:

[SavannahStar]

I think the point is that they did lie, they did mislead, they did with hold. I don't think charges are in order, due to their loss but they did do those things. Why the need to paint them as helpless victims of their daughter, the public, and law enforcement?

why is it so easy to point blame at LE yet not accept that the Anthonys did the things they did?

You know, I almost never point blame at LE, in any fashion. I've stated on here before that I feel they have done a stellar job. I was shocked and saddened about the errors made with the August tips.

That being said, I am NOT painting the Anthonys as helpless victims of LE or anyone else.

And THAT being said, I don't think they did nearly as bad or as much "obstruction" as others believe. I just really don't see it.

[SavannahStar]

If he reported a smell in any of his first 3 calls and police didn't find the body then there is a problem and it isn't with the meter reader.

You bet!.......

[~jomomma~]

Media Advisory 12/22 (1 page pdf)
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/12/22/media.advisory.pdf

so, baez won't be responding to the scene, eh?

[beetlebrow]

I have Jayne and geraldo on IGGY and am about to totally write off the defense(errr I meant FOX).

They certainly seem to have a vested interest in running LE and the state into the ground.

And when the facts are known to everyone during the trial they will do a 180 :w00t:

[KatieKates]

No, you don't. but you'll try. I agree with the action, just not the *public relations*aspect of the Anthonys trying to do a good deed. They just want them gone. The Attorney, I'll bet, turned it into a *gesture*.

I really don't think I've tried at all, maybe disagree'd, realized that was silly of me because some take it so personal...

I really don't care who did what with the stuffed animals, if you want to know the truth.

[bballgrl]

On Fox News now. What are they talking about the smell? That when the MR called in August the smell was mentioned. When was this? Who is saying this? I doubt there would be a smell after two months. imo


Actually even Henry Lee mentioned the smell last month. He said the car still smelled. (Is that what you are talking about?)

[Dunlurken]

can you believe fox news. .


snipping to address. No, you cannot believe FAUX news. JMO.

[KKKKKKatie]

I believe she was repeating what Cindy said as she threw Jessie, Amy et al under said Casey bus.


that is how I took her post

[Mimi428]

I would have too after hearing what Cindy told the FBI about him. :ohmy:

I can see your point, but I think Jesse has far, far more to fear from CASEY'S defense team than he will ever have from what Cindy says to experienced murder investigators.

JMO

[PROPROS]

Apparently JG has also obtained legal counsel.
jmoI saw that Cury...Not a bad idea since the defense may try and implicate him in Caylee's death. Also, his lawyer looks familiar or is it that he looks like an actor.:confused:mo

[Cury-us Coyote]

Once notifyed that the burial site was clear, the defense team said they wopuld NOT be responding to the sight........:thumbdown:

IMO, a form of checks and balances built into our justice system to challenge LE and the STATE to thoroughly investigation and prove the case.
jmho

[bballgrl]

Actually even Henry Lee mentioned the smell last month. He said the car still smelled. (Is that what you are talking about?)

Sorry, quoting myself to say "Oops" not talking about the car... My bad! :scared:

[PROPROS]

No. The Anthony's didn't even go to the shelter.I know that now....but who did the shelter say the toys were from? Caylee or Caylee and The Anthony's?mo

[FrankieBones1]

May I ask why you think Jesse and Amy would kidnap and then murder Caylee?

The member didn't use punctuation therefore leading us to believe that it was the member who thought this. What Gogo meant to post is that it was Cindy who threw Jesse under a bus by telling the media that it was Jesse and Amy who were really the Nanny and did away with Caylee.

((Gogo, I hope you don't mind that I helped set the record straight))

[Mimi428]

Yes....but maybe strangling Casey was considered a "lovely evening". mo

OOOOOOOH! Shame on ya!

(now I have to go clean the spit coffee off the keyboard)

[5boxersmom]

Actually even Henry Lee mentioned the smell last month. He said the car still smelled. (Is that what you are talking about?)

No Fox was saying the Meter Reader mentioned a bad smell in one of his calls in August.

If Danielle Van Dam was completely skeletal after 20 some days I would say Caylee was too after almost 2 months. So would there even still be a smell in the wooded area?

Also where is Fox hearing this about the smell?

[Cury-us Coyote]

I know that now....but who did the shelter say the toys were from? Caylee or Caylee and The Anthony's?mo


http://www.wftv.com/news/18334836/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news
http://www.wftv.com/video/18335406/index.html

[Freefall]

This is what I have been hoping for all along. I think this is the first truly "good" thing that the A's have done since this whole mess began. Good for them!

I don't think it was the Anthony's idea. They now have a spokesperson who actually knows what he's doing. This is Anthony damage control for their image. You can't be a spokesperson for other missing children when you're being accused of throwing stuffed animals in the garbage (which has happened). I cannot believe a word out of their mouths. Everything they do now I look at the big picture and try to see how this may help Casey at trial. Call me a cynic but there it is.

[justagal71]

correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought i had read a while back that casey gave legal gaurdianship of caylee to her parents after she was incarcerated. reason being that if caylee was found she would be easily returned to cindy and george without any hassles since casey was in jail. therefore as george and cindy as legal guardians wouldnt they have the say as to what happens to caylees remains and funeral arrangements.

[beetlebrow]

IMO, a form of checks and balances built into our justice system to challenge LE and the STATE to thoroughly investigation and prove the case.
jmho

Somehow with all the publicity, I think that would have been done anyway.......

[5boxersmom]

I can see your point, but I think Jesse has far, far more to fear from CASEY'S defense team than he will ever have from what Cindy says to experienced murder investigators.

JMO

Oh I agree. I am glad he has one.

[bballgrl]

No Fox was saying the Meter Reader mentioned a bad smell in one of his calls in August.

If Danielle Van Dam was completely skeletal after 20 some days I would say Caylee was too after almost 2 months. So would there even still be a smell in the wooded area?

Also where is Fox hearing this about the smell?

Thanks. I did correct myself. I wasn't watching Fox and didn't know what "smell" they were referring too. Got it now though! Thanks again...

[barskin&co.]

correct me if i'm wrong, but i thought i had read a while back that casey gave legal gaurdianship of caylee to her parents after she was incarcerated. reason being that if caylee was found she would be easily returned to cindy and george without any hassles since casey was in jail. therefore as george and cindy as legal guardians wouldnt they have the say as to what happens to caylees remains and funeral arrangements.

I don't remember that, but I hope it's true.

[breezie]

so, baez won't be responding to the scene, eh?

course not. He'd have to do his own work. He'd much rather watch the SA do it. Whine is his game...not real legal work.