Sunday, Dec 21 AFTERNOON, PART 2

[Sweetly]

HERE YA GO. EVERYONE BE NICE, PLEASE AND REMEMBER TO NOT QUOTE LONG POSTS! :smile:

[LindaNJ1216]

whooo hooo! I'am the first to post here...:tonguewag:

[LindaNJ1216]

I think George & Cindy are in a no win situation. I think it's a good thing they wanted to donate the toys to living children that may actually enjoy them.

[steffaroob4]

Anthony family attorney: Memorial toys for Caylee to be donated to charity (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-memorial-toys-122108,0,1501806.story)
Sara K. Clarke | Sentinel Staff Writer
4:29 PM EST, December 21, 2008
The Anthony family has decided to donate toys that have been accumulating at a makeshift memorial for Caylee Marie Anthony to the Orlando Union Rescue Mission to help children in need.

The Anthonys' attorney, Brad Conway, made the announcement at

[Adalena935]

Sweetly could you run that rule by me. I wasn't here for quite a number of months and last time I was here people were reporting people for excising part of their posts. Can't win; sigh. Anyway I never heard that rule. sigh

I read the moderator's sticky notice about being sure to include the quotes when replying to someone so it would quote properly. I'm aware of that. I looked for the general rules this morning but couldn't find them. Much appreciated if you could help me with this.

[Brattnt]

Thank you Sweetly!....Posting this here as well, so it doesnt get missed in the change over...

Corrections Dept On Baez Comments...

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=WEBBATANTHONYS_121120080207&cat=CAC&title=Woman%20At%20Anthony%20Home

An Orange County Jail spokesmen
reacts to Jose Baez' criticism.

[Adalena935]

I've been wondering if the Anthony family held their press conference yet. Someone mentioned it earlier in the day. TIA

[Sweetly]

Sweetly could you run that rule by me. I wasn't here for quite a number of months and last time I was here people were reporting people for excising part of their posts. Can't win; sigh. Anyway I never heard that rule. sigh

I read the moderator's sticky notice about being sure to include the quotes when replying to someone so it would quote properly. I'm aware of that. I looked for the general rules this morning but couldn't find them. Much appreciated if you could help me with this.

Sure, CW asked that we NOT quote long quotes as it makes the board come to a crawl when posters do this. I suggest snipping/shortening them to the particulars you are referring to or just address the person you are responding to so they know you are responding to their recent post.:tonguewag:

[steffaroob4]

Items taken from Anthony home belonged to Casey and Caylee

Last Edited: Sunday, 21 Dec 2008, 4:52 PM EST
Created: Sunday, 21 Dec 2008, 4:52 PM EST (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8119192&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1)

[Sweetly]

I've been wondering if the Anthony family held their press conference yet. Someone mentioned it earlier in the day. TIA

No, Mr. Conway, their attorney, did the presser instead.

[Sweetly]

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The attorney representing Caylee's grandparents Cindy and George Anthony said Sunday that the itmes removed from their home Saturday by Orange County Sheriff's Office deputies belonged to Caylee and Casey.

Brad Conway says some of the items taken during Saturday’s search warrant were Caylee and Casey's clothes and shoes but nothing of George or Cindy’s was taken.


Conway says the stuffed animals and other toys that have been left at a roadside memorial at the scence where Caylee’s remains were found will be removed and donated to the Orlando Union Rescue Mission to do it.

Conway says George and Cindy were not upset about warrant being served day after announcement.

He also said the depositions scheduled for Monday in the Zenaida Gonzalez lawsuit have been cancelled. Conway asked Gonzalez’s attorney John Morgan to reschedule in light of Friday’s news and the request was accepted.

Conway says there are no specific plans for Caylee’s funeral service yet but the family says it will be private and kept secret as best as possible. Conway says they are still waiting for remains to be released.

Conway said George and Cindy will speak to the media after Caylee's funeral service.

WOW, how sad the funeral will be "private n secret", I think, since they have involved all the world with all their ridiculous antics and now we are just left out in the cold. I would have loved to have been a part of saying goodbye to Caylee, by watching the funeral but oh well. :crying:

[Brattnt]

All I get from that link is a video just prior to the A's returning from Calif. and the CSI arriving there?

Oops...If you look to the right there is a listing and it's there....Sorry about that....:smile:

[bookie]

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- The attorney representing Caylee's grandparents Cindy and George Anthony said Sunday that the itmes removed from their home Saturday by Orange County Sheriff's Office deputies belonged to Caylee and Casey.

Brad Conway says some of the items taken during Saturday’s search warrant were Caylee and Casey's clothes and shoes but nothing of George or Cindy’s was taken.


Conway says the stuffed animals and other toys that have been left at a roadside memorial at the scence where Caylee’s remains were found will be removed and donated to the Orlando Union Rescue Mission to do it.

Conway says George and Cindy were not upset about warrant being served day after announcement.

He also said the depositions scheduled for Monday in the Zenaida Gonzalez lawsuit have been cancelled. Conway asked Gonzalez’s attorney John Morgan to reschedule in light of Friday’s news and the request was accepted.

Conway says there are no specific plans for Caylee’s funeral service yet but the family says it will be private and kept secret as best as possible. Conway says they are still waiting for remains to be released.

Conway said George and Cindy will speak to the media after Caylee's funeral service.

WOW, how sad the funeral will be "private n secret", I think, since they have involved all the world with all their ridiculous antics and now we are just left out in the cold. I would have loved to have been a part of saying goodbye to Caylee, by watching the funeral but oh well. :crying:



I think you can thank the people who choose to stand outside the Anthony home screaming babykiller for being left out in the cold.

[sunstar]

(respectfully snipped)

WOW, how sad the funeral will be "private n secret", I think, since they have involved all the world with all their ridiculous antics and now we are just left out in the cold. I would have loved to have been a part of saying goodbye to Caylee, by watching the funeral but oh well. :crying:

The private funeral doesn't bother me. I don't know if I could watch it if any media was there ~ it will be too sad. :crying: MOO

[SavannahStar]

Just a suggestion but maybe posters could keep their posts a little bit shorter too? I know there are a lot of times that I scroll past a long post especially when trying to catch up. Has the A's atty. held the presser yet today?

I'm with you on the long posts.......

[sunstar]

I respect the decision to hold a private funeral. The A's did involve the public in many ways, but this is the final good bye to their darling granddaughter. They are facing a terrible tragedy in their lives right now and they should have privacy.

I agree. And let Caylee rest in peace. :rose:

[Katt2]

WOW, how sad the funeral will be "private n secret", I think, since they have involved all the world with all their ridiculous antics and now we are just left out in the cold. I would have loved to have been a part of saying goodbye to Caylee, by watching the funeral but oh well. :crying:

Sweetly, if this were your beloved family member, would you want the service televised to be picked apart by a bunch of message board posters?
Actually the "ridiculous antics" as you call them have nothing at all to do with this sweet child being put to rest.

[Mimi428]

Oops...If you look to the right there is a listing and it's there....Sorry about that....:smile:

I can't watch video from this location - is that a clip where they reveal that Casey was actually in the attorney/client room WITH JOSE BAEZ when she was notified by the chaplain?

IOW, she was not in her cell, alone with her grief & her sorrow & her anxiety & her snacks, when she was informed by the chaplain.

But when it comes to Baez attempting to paint a false picture...what is is new, eh?

[bookie]

So Conway is stating that Casey has not made a decision on releasing the remains or that the ME or whoever would release them to the funeral home has not been done yet. Please advise



No Conway is not stating that. What he said was that the memorial would be private but no plans had been made yet.

I don't think Casey is going to have any say about the release of the remains. I posted an article last week saying they would be released to the Anthony's after testing if they were Caylee's remains.


Once the medical examiner and the defense examine the remains, the remains, if Caylee's, will be released to the Anthonys.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18282120/detail.html#-

[Sweetly]

I respect the decision to hold a private funeral. The A's did involve the public in many ways, but this is the final good bye to their darling granddaughter. They are facing a terrible tragedy in their lives right now and they should have privacy.

I respect the decision also. I just said I would have liked to have been able to have been a part of it in some small way.

[?noanswer]

I can't watch video from this location - is that a clip where they reveal that Casey was actually in the attorney/client room WITH JOSE BAEZ when she was notified by the chaplain?

IOW, she was not in her cell, alone with her grief & her sorrow & her anxiety & her snacks, when she was informed by the chaplain.

But when it comes to Baez attempting to paint a false picture...what is is new, eh?


Yes, but I'm not sure she was with JB. There was an atty. Garcia there. I don't know if the chaplain told her before/after Garcia, but IIRC JB did not get there until after she was told. He is not pleased that he is not the one that got to relay the info to her. But the jail followed SOP. JMO

[Roux]

I respect the decision to hold a private funeral. The A's did involve the public in many ways, but this is the final good bye to their darling granddaughter. They are facing a terrible tragedy in their lives right now and they should have privacy.

I wonder if they will permit the Grunds to attend. That tribute that Mr. Grund made on Friday was so loving and heartfelt. That family has so much grace.

[Roux]

The private funeral doesn't bother me. I don't know if I could watch it if any media was there ~ it will be too sad. :crying: MOO

I certainly hope nothing like Inside Edition or Entertainment Tonight -- remember Anna Nicole's funeral? But one does have to wonder about this Davis producer guy being around. Surely they wouldn't do anything like that.

[Brattnt]

I can't watch video from this location - is that a clip where they reveal that Casey was actually in the attorney/client room WITH JOSE BAEZ when she was notified by the chaplain?

IOW, she was not in her cell, alone with her grief & her sorrow & her anxiety & her snacks, when she was informed by the chaplain.

But when it comes to Baez attempting to paint a false picture...what is is new, eh?

What Alan Moore said was, Casey was treated like any other inmate...The Chaplin was the one to tell her, no special treatment....He also said that Baez had requested to be notified so he could be there, and that request was denied....

[bchand]

I respect the decision to hold a private funeral. The A's did involve the public in many ways, but this is the final good bye to their darling granddaughter. They are facing a terrible tragedy in their lives right now and they should have privacy.

I agree with you Miami.

[Sweetly]

I wonder if they will permit the Grunds to attend. That tribute that Mr. Grund made on Friday was so loving and heartfelt. That family has so much grace.

I higly doubt they would allow them to come given they tried to implicate Jesse the way they did. This is exactly who I was thinking of when I said I wish it would be televised so we can all have a part in saying goodbye along with the Anthony's. This way, even the Grund's, Amy, the LE, etc., who worked so hard on this case could all pay our respects and not be left out. Was just a thought since so many are so deeply heartbroken by this. Thats all I'm saying.

[bookie]

I thought the ME said they would get permission from the inmate to release the remains to the family?



I haven't heard that and am going by the only mention I did see about it.

[Roux]

I higly doubt they would allow them to come given they tried to implicate Jesse the way they did. This is exactly who I was thinking of when I said I wish it would be televised so we can all have a part in saying goodbye along with the Anthony's. This way, even the Grund's, Amy, the LE, etc., who worked so hard on this case could all pay our respects and not be left out. Was just a thought since so many are so deeply heartbroken by this. Thats all I'm saying.

Do you think anything will come of the memorial service that was mentioned by Padilla? Personally I wish he would just bow out now, but if someone else could hold a memorial that would be dignified I think it would help many people, including all Casey's friends who loved Caylee.

[martha]

I respect the decision to hold a private funeral. The A's did involve the public in many ways, but this is the final good bye to their darling granddaughter. They are facing a terrible tragedy in their lives right now and they should have privacy. amen they need time to grrieve.jmho

[sunstar]

I certainly hope nothing like Inside Edition or Entertainment Tonight -- remember Anna Nicole's funeral? But one does have to wonder about this Davis producer guy being around. Surely they wouldn't do anything like that.

OMG I hope that isn't his role, even though I can't quite figure out what his involvement is. It seems from what their lawyer said today that it will be private so that to me means no media. I hope! MOO

[sunstar]

Maybe they could have a candlelight vigil in a park and have their Minister say a prayer for Caylee. That would show that they appreciate the public outpouring for Caylee, and the searchers and everyone who wanted to help find her, and still allow them their privacy at the funeral.

That would be a very nice idea to have a public memorial service and let the family have their own private one. MOO

[sunstar]

I thought the ME said they would get permission from the inmate to release the remains to the family?

That would make sense since she legally is Caylee's next of kin and hasn't yet been convicted of her death. MOO

[Mimi428]

Yes, but I'm not sure she was with JB. There was an atty. Garcia there. I don't know if the chaplain told her before/after Garcia, but IIRC JB did not get there until after she was told. He is not pleased that he is not the one that got to relay the info to her. But the jail followed SOP. JMO

You are absolutely right & I was completely mistaken - it was Jose' Garcia who she had been meeting with.

Sorry folks! :punch: on me for starting a false rumor.

[Sweetly]

Maybe they could have a candlelight vigil in a park and have their Minister say a prayer for Caylee. That would show that they appreciate the public outpouring for Caylee, and the searchers and everyone who wanted to help find her, and still allow them their privacy at the funeral.

This would be perfect, yes. And to allow LE, Grunds, Amy, etc. Yes this would be wonderful but it's up to them and I respect their decisions.

[Roux]

Conway seems to be doing a good job so far; makes me wonder how NeJame wasn't able to get C&G under control, yet Conway has. What changed?

IMO the behavior of the Anthonys from here on out will either "make or break" the public's perception of them. Let's all pray they do the right thing. They can still love Casey and stand by her but the higher purpose is justice for Caylee.

[~tj~]

I know Tim Miller had voiced that he would like to pay his respects but I doubt they will let him. I wish he could though. Another poster made a great suggestion of showing your respects by dontating to TES. They work off donations alone and there was a lot of money spent on these searches for Caylee.

This is the best idea right here!! ^

[OneUp]

I hope the Anthony's are able to keep their memorial services peaceful and quiet...I can completely indentify with wanting to keep that private. Let's hope everyone respects their wish to do so...and hope too that no one chooses to make it into a tacky media spectacle by filming it. The thought of a video of the services makes me feel ill.

I'm out for the day, as there seems to be alot of bickering and griping about the posts and personalities of others.
Gee...we can't quote/we can quote, we have to snip, now the "fifty words or less" police are on task. If My long posts aren't worthy of taking the time to read, I'd really rather those that feel that way put me on ignore and cease "wasting time" on ALL of my posts. I am who I am and I haven't any intention of tailoring my personality to suit posters on a message board!...good grief people! It IS the Holiday Season, and we are (supposedly) posting here about our thoughts and feelings regarding Caylee....It would be nice if we were ALL alowed to share our thoughts as we see fit as long as it is done with respect.

I have ALOT to say about what this child has come to mean to me and how I hope to see this case proceed...and I intend to say it my way. Caylees life, and the circumstances that led to her death have a special and personal meaning for me...this isn't just "entertainment" for me IYKWIM. I post here in part as a catharsis for the grief I feel every Holiday season instead of moping without meaning. I try to find ways to focus my energy into current cases involving our children. Sometimes I make donations, sometimes I volunteer, and here I hope to contribute my personal perspective on the loss of a child and learn from others too.
:rose: May God help EVERYONE remember the real and important things in life during this season and may He open the eyes of those who feel the need to harass the Anthony family. They deserve a time to grieve and adjust without people yelling outside their door. I pray that they will recieve that and begin to honor the memory of their precious grandchild, Caylee Marie.:rose:

JMO.
I'll see my Board buddies later.

[bchand]

Conway seems to be doing a good job so far; makes me wonder how NeJame wasn't able to get C&G under control, yet Conway has. What changed?

IMO the behavior of the Anthonys from here on out will either "make or break" the public's perception of them. Let's all pray they do the right thing. They can still love Casey and stand by her but the higher purpose is justice for Caylee.

NeJame was at a disadvantage because Caylee's body hadn't be found yet and the Anthony's were sticking to their "she's still alive and constantly being spotted" story. HE knew she was gone and felt Casey was responsible but couldn't convince them of it.

Conway came into this right when the body was found and they couldn't deny it any longer.

[*MoonRider*]

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) --

Conway says there are no specific plans for Caylee’s funeral service yet but the family says it will be private and kept secret as best as possible. Conway says they are still waiting for remains to be released.

Conway said George and Cindy will speak to the media after Caylee's funeral service.snipped with respect.

:crying:

While the memorial might be private, I'd be willing to bet that exclusive photos will appear from the highest bidder. JMO

[dixie77]

Does anyone remember Friday nite (i think it was on Greta's show) when Dr. Baden said that we will all know what was recovered at the crime scene once the defense finds out? i cant find the transcript of the show. or did i dream this? thanks

[Roux]

I don't see that happening. There are too many people who have no class and will make it a three ring circus. Just my opinion, based on the "Jerry Springer" people that have protested outside the house.

Private funeral is the only way to go at this time.

IMO

ITA on some of those people being of the Springer ilk, but if a public memorial service was held in a park or church & C&G and Lee didn't attend,there probably wouldn't be any untoward behavior. One would hope.:unsure:

[jammies]

Most of us have been mourning the death of Caylee for months. We can light a candle, hug our children/grandchildren, and look inside ourselves to be better parents, better PEOPLE. In this way we can honor Caylee.

Speaking for myself, I don't need a funeral to honor that sweet little girl. I just hope and pray her death sends a message to families everywhere that their kids are precious gifts from God.

[playnice]

Conway seems to be doing a good job so far; makes me wonder how NeJame wasn't able to get C&G under control, yet Conway has. What changed?

IMO the behavior of the Anthonys from here on out will either "make or break" the public's perception of them. Let's all pray they do the right thing. They can still love Casey and stand by her but the higher purpose is justice for Caylee.

The body was found and it put fear into them. They cant derail the investigation any longer.

[Roux]

Does anyone remember Friday nite (i think it was on Greta's show) when Dr. Baden said that we will all know what was recovered at the crime scene once the defense finds out? i cant find the transcript of the show. or did i dream this? thanks

I saw Pam Bondi and that Jeff atty (with longish hair) say that. Can't remember which show.

[sunstar]

ITA thats how i would love for it to be. The funeral is NO place for cameras and the public. The anna nicole funeral was HORRIBLE. i just couldn't imagine a family doing that to their loved one :(

After all, ANS was a celebrity before she died but little Caylee was just an innocent child who wasn't able to speak for herself. I'm relieved to hear the family wants a private funeral. That's the way it should be. MOO

[?noanswer]

Maybe they could have a candlelight vigil in a park and have their Minister say a prayer for Caylee. That would show that they appreciate the public outpouring for Caylee, and the searchers and everyone who wanted to help find her, and still allow them their privacy at the funeral.

IIRC, LP said he and Rev. Grund would have a memorial for her on Christmas or before. Can't remember exactly what he said. Don't know if he used the word memorial because that caused a problem last time. He said this before it was determined that Caylee was dead. JMO

[Regina.Lampert]

Sweetly, if this were your beloved family member, would you want the service televised to be picked apart by a bunch of message board posters?
Actually the "ridiculous antics" as you call them have nothing at all to do with this sweet child being put to rest.

Excellent point Katt, I agree with you. A private funeral is best and I am glad to see the Anthonys using good judgement.

I hope the media and the public respect their wishes........and message board poster too.

[BobbysGirl]

I pray that Caylee's burial will be held in the Highest degree and Respect she deserves.

I would not want the media, protestors there.

Caylee deserves to be buried with dignity.

Her Grand Parents and immediate family are suffering a great loss.

Her burial should not be sensationalized.

IMHO.

BG

[Katt2]

Cindy Anthony brought us into this case when she told us to get off our azzes and find her grand child.........It's ridiculous NOW they want to go into hiding.


NOW she knows for fact that she has a deceased granddaughter. I would go in hiding to with what I have seen of some of the whackos around their home.

[sunstar]

The body was found and it put fear into them. They cant derail the investigation any longer.

One thing I thought of last night is even though it is very sad to finally know for sure that Caylee's dead, it is a blessing that other innocent children won't be photographed and have their images all over the media & Internet as a "Caylee sighting". For that I'm very thankful to the man who found Caylee's remains! MOO

[SavannahStar]

In your lifetime, have you ever said something you later regretted? Could you imagine what it would be like to have it brought up over and over again, despite your regret?

Wow. I love your posts. You have a way of hitting right on target.

[dixie77]

I saw Pam Bondi and that Jeff atty (with longish hair) say that. Can't remember which show.

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So maybe we wont have to wait until the trial.

[SavannahStar]

Most of us have been mourning the death of Caylee for months. We can light a candle, hug our children/grandchildren, and look inside ourselves to be better parents, better PEOPLE. In this way we can honor Caylee.

Speaking for myself, I don't need a funeral to honor that sweet little girl. I just hope and pray her death sends a message to families everywhere that their kids are precious gifts from God.



That's a nice post. I don't need to attend the funeral either. There are so many personal, private ways to honor Caylee's memory.

[Regina.Lampert]

While the memorial might be private, I'd be willing to bet that exclusive photos will appear from the highest bidder. JMO

....and if that happens, before we jump all over Cynthia and George, let's make sure casey anthony didn't sell the rights, because she is the next of kin to Caylee and as such is in complete control over all the arrangements. imo.

[?noanswer]

Does anyone remember Friday nite (i think it was on Greta's show) when Dr. Baden said that we will all know what was recovered at the crime scene once the defense finds out? i cant find the transcript of the show. or did i dream this? thanks

I think that is the way it always happens. When the Prosecution turns over what they have to the defense, then the media can request it. I think that is the way the Sunshine Law works. JMO

[dixie77]

I was thinking the same thing. Let's have a moment of silence on this board. I know that will be difficult with all the different time zones, but something to contemplate. I, for one, will participate.

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Beautiful idea. Count me in, also.

[Sweetly]

Sorry I said funeral. (No, I most certainly wouldn't want the funeral televised; not for one minute!) A memorial is a much better idea. Sorry I said funeral.

END OF CONVERSATION ON THIS...

[gaelicpeas]

I higly doubt they would allow them to come given they tried to implicate Jesse the way they did. This is exactly who I was thinking of when I said I wish it would be televised so we can all have a part in saying goodbye along with the Anthony's. This way, even the Grund's, Amy, the LE, etc., who worked so hard on this case could all pay our respects and not be left out. Was just a thought since so many are so deeply heartbroken by this. Thats all I'm saying.Sweetly, I agree with your post, and I can understand people wanting to share in the service and pay their respects, and most of those people would be truly caring. Unfortunately, there are just so many whackos out there that might turn the service into a spectacle.

I think George and Cindy are doing the right thing having a private service. I just hope and pray they don't try to sell it to the media afterwards. JMO

[dixie77]

I think that is the way it always happens. When the Prosecution turns over what they have to the defense, then the media can request it. I think that is the way the Sunshine Law works. JMO

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Thanks noanswer.

[AMS]

....and if that happens, before we jump all over Cynthia and George, let's make sure casey anthony didn't sell the rights, because she is the next of kin to Caylee and as such is in complete control over all the arrangements. imo.


Under the guidance of Baez.......

[trich]

I know Tim Miller had voiced that he would like to pay his respects but I doubt they will let him. I wish he could though. Another poster made a great suggestion of showing your respects by dontating to TES. They work off donations alone and there was a lot of money spent on these searches for Caylee.

IMO the Anthonys are entitled to have a funeral/memorial privately or any other way they want.
The public should not be allowed to dictate to them in any way shape or form.
That is their right....and no one else should even suggest how they should do it.

I am in no way a fan of their behavior but Caylee was their grandaughter and no one should insinuate how they should have a funeral.

[Regina.Lampert]

Under the guidance of Baez.......

Exactly!!!!!!

[gaelicpeas]

Conway seems to be doing a good job so far; makes me wonder how NeJame wasn't able to get C&G under control, yet Conway has. What changed?

IMO the behavior of the Anthonys from here on out will either "make or break" the public's perception of them. Let's all pray they do the right thing. They can still love Casey and stand by her but the higher purpose is justice for Caylee.Maybe the possibility of obstruction charges? Or maybe the finalization of the remains being Caylee? Who knows.... time will tell. JMO

[BobbysGirl]

I was thinking the same thing. Let's have a moment of silence on this board. I know that will be difficult with all the different time zones, but something to contemplate. I, for one, will participate.


A very nice gesture and thought provoking. What times I have returned to this thread, my thoughts were silent and in reverance for dear Caylee. Least why I don't post more often.

RIP Caylee

BG

[?noanswer]

I was thinking the same thing. Let's have a moment of silence on this board. I know that will be difficult with all the different time zones, but something to contemplate. I, for one, will participate.


The time zone should not be a problem. Just set it up for Eastern time, then everyone can adjust. JMO

[Regina.Lampert]

Yeah i agree with that. You know i do but i'm just mad at the A's. I want to send flowers and a teddy bear to Caylee BUT i think in the morning i'll just send Thank you flowers to the Orange County Sheriffs and say thank you from everyone at the In Session Message Board.


Only other family that has ever bugged me this badly was Scott Peterson's parents :(

If you want to honor Caylee, why not send something to a local hospital or shelter and put on the card in honor of Caylee Anthony?

[Cury-us Coyote]

Anthony family asks for privacy
There will be a memorial service according to Conway but it will be private.
http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local/story/Anthony-family-asks-for-privacy/yQl5Fkw9A0OW5WgnbihW6w.cspx

Items taken from home belonged to Casey and Caylee
Brad Conway says some of the items taken during Saturday’s search warrant were Caylee and Casey's clothes and shoes but nothing of George or Cindy’s was taken.http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/ContentDetail?contentId=8119192

Fox 35 Video
Anthony's attorney speaks to media
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8119349&version=1&locale=EN-US

[Katt2]

Sorry I said funeral. (No, I most certainly wouldn't want the funeral televised; not for one minute!) A memorial is a much better idea. Sorry I said funeral.

END OF CONVERSATION ON THIS...

Excellent idea, Sweetly.

[Rayosunshine]

While the memorial might be private, I'd be willing to bet that exclusive photos will appear from the highest bidder. JMO

And I say more power to them if that is the case, since I am sure they have lost alot through their daughter's escapades.

[SavannahStar]

Yeah i agree with that. You know i do but i'm just mad at the A's. I want to send flowers and a teddy bear to Caylee BUT i think in the morning i'll just send Thank you flowers to the Orange County Sheriffs and say thank you from everyone at the In Session Message Board.


Only other family that has ever bugged me this badly was Scott Peterson's parents :(

I don't agree with you a lot, but boy that idea is absolutely fabulous....flowers and a teddy bear "to Caylee" are not really to Caylee, they are to a place. The gesture serves to make you feel good about it, but nothing more. A thank you and flowers to LE, who worked SO long and hard for justice in this case, is just a wonderful thought. I hope you do that.

(I think LE did a stellar job, with two exceptions, Yuri M. posting publicly on WS, and the one(s) who messed up on the August tips....but in general, as a whole, they were superb.)

:rose:

[dixie77]

And I say more power to them if that is the case, since I am sure they have lost alot through their daughter's escapades.

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Hi Isabelle. I totally agree. (check your pm's)

[gaelicpeas]

I post here in part as a catharsis for the grief I feel every Holiday season instead of moping without meaning. I try to find ways to focus my energy into current cases involving our children. Sometimes I make donations, sometimes I volunteer, and here I hope to contribute my personal perspective on the loss of a child and learn from others too.

(respectfully snipped) Nice post, OneUp. Some people make longer posts than others. We are all different - and that is what makes the world go 'round!

[kitty1182]

Under the guidance of Baez.......

Right!!!!!!

[gogo]

It appears that the P.R. Blitz is working. Reporting on Memorial, Baez and Defense team on Geraldo. where the toys and gifts should go, And is the meter man guilty, and the poor anthonys' who have already know for 6 mths that there granddaughter has been killed, they have alread gone through that realization. remember the death smell. 31 days of missing baby unreported. There was no revelation this week. only that the gig was up. Where is Casey anthony in all these discussions. this is not about a memorial, this is a story of a child being murdered, not a car accident. Do not take your eyes of the Anthonys' who have killed a baby (casey) and parents who have tried to block an investgation , who were willing to leave their grandchild , in a bag, in the elements, rotting. I will never forgive any of them . Concentrate on justice for Caylee, on the upcoming trial, let us not participate in the propaganda to exonerate Casey, who danced and partied the day after her pain in her butt had taken her last breath. That very same night she slept in Tony's bed and showed him a good time, while her dtr. rotted probably in her trunk or her mom's backyard. don't take your eyes off CAsey, that is a defense tactic. :mad:

[cassidy]

To your question, I think it's all about the timing. NeJame came in during the thick of the media blitz. Conway arrived on the scene right around the time the (then unidentified) remains were found.

To your second point, ITA.

Nejame muzzled Cindy for a short period of time IIRC. Conway has yet to be tested.

JMO

[Rayosunshine]

....and if that happens, before we jump all over Cynthia and George, let's make sure casey anthony didn't sell the rights, because she is the next of kin to Caylee and as such is in complete control over all the arrangements. imo.

I would imagine if Casey didn't/doesn't make the right decisions about final arrangements, the judge would be more than happy to help her. Is Casey what you would call a ward of the court, or something like that?

[kitty1182]

It does make you wonder what they could want clothes for. Shoes maybe they could get something off of, if they weren't worn again, but clothes, as you say, would have been washed by now.

Maybe some clothes were found that might have a matching piece to go with them..:confused:

[?noanswer]

I would imagine if Casey didn't/doesn't make the right decisions about final arrangements, the judge would be more than happy to help her. Is Casey what you would call a ward of the court, or something like that?

She is a prisoner, in jail awaiting her trial for Murder 1. JMO

[Sweetly]

Nice post, OneUp. Some people make longer posts than others. We are all different - and that is what makes the world go 'round!

CW never said we can't make long posts. What she said was if a bunch of people keep quoting the long posts over n over, it slows the board down to a crawl. She asked that we not KEEP QUOTING long posts. And I suggested that we be sure to snip the parts of the long post we are responding to or address the poster by name so they would know we were responding with their most recent post. :smile:

[Regina.Lampert]

I could do that.


Have you heard if the defense or if the A's still want a second funeral?

No word on the second autopsy. (that's what ya meant, right?

[*MoonRider*]

....and if that happens, before we jump all over Cynthia and George, let's make sure casey anthony didn't sell the rights, because she is the next of kin to Caylee and as such is in complete control over all the arrangements. imo.

You have a very valid point. But it is my understanding that due to her incarceration she will have to sign her rights to her grandparents. I only hope and pray that they will do the right thing for precious Caylee. JMO

[Regina.Lampert]

I would imagine if Casey didn't/doesn't make the right decisions about final arrangements, the judge would be more than happy to help her. Is Casey what you would call a ward of the court, or something like that?

casey is a defendant, but she is still Caylee's mother and next of kin and retains the rights to make the funeral arrangements. No court will interfere with that, imo.

[impartial]

It appears that the P.R. Blitz is working. Reporting on Memorial, Baez and Defense team on Geraldo. where the toys and gifts should go, And is the meter man guilty, and the poor anthonys' who have already know for 6 mths that there granddaughter has been killed, they have alread gone through that realization. remember the death smell. 31 days of missing baby unreported. There was no revelation this week. only that the gig was up. Where is Casey anthony in all these discussions. this is not about a memorial, this is a story of a child being murdered, not a car accident. Do not take your eyes of the Anthonys' who have killed a baby (casey) and parents who have tried to block an investgation , who were willing to leave their grandchild , in a bag, in the elements, rotting. I will never forgive any of them . Concentrate on justice for Caylee, on the upcoming trial, let us not participate in the propaganda to exonerate Casey, who danced and partied the day after her pain in her butt had taken her last breath. That very same night she slept in Tony's bed and showed him a good time, while her dtr. rotted probably in her trunk or her mom's backyard. don't take your eyes off CAsey, that is a defense tactic. :mad:



Please provide a link for this statement.

[~tj~]

That's a nice post. I don't need to attend the funeral either. There are so many personal, private ways to honor Caylee's memory.

There sure is. That candle site that we get links for on here is a wonderful way to honor our sweet Caylee. :rose:

[Roux]

To your question, I think it's all about the timing. NeJame came in during the thick of the media blitz. Conway arrived on the scene right around the time the (then unidentified) remains were found.

To your second point, ITA.

Regarding the employment of Conway, do you know if it's accurate that they called him from the plane on the way back from CA? Did they just find him in the yellow pages? Had NeJame or someone else recommended him? It seemed strange to me how all that went down in, apparently, a matter of hours. They must have had him in the wings?

[Regina.Lampert]

You have a very valid point. But it is my understanding that due to her incarceration she will have to sign her rights to her grandparents. I only hope and pray that they will do the right thing for precious Caylee. JMO

As was noted above, she could very well appoint her attorney as her representative and have him carry out her wishes.

[bama__angel]

While the memorial might be private, I'd be willing to bet that exclusive photos will appear from the highest bidder. JMO


WOW.........I dont think the Anthony's have rights to sell anything that pertains to Caylee.......That right belongs to Casey.......IMO

[cajunmoon]

You have a very valid point. But it is my understanding that due to her incarceration she will have to sign her rights to her grandparents. I only hope and pray that they will do the right thing for precious Caylee. JMO

Good evening everyone.

It is my understanding of this matter that casey has the right, and unless she makes the decision to sign over said rights to parents, she can defer to her attorney.

I would hope she would turn over all rights to make arrangements for Caylee to her parents.

IMO

[Rayosunshine]

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Hi Isabelle. I totally agree. (check your pm's)

I checked, nothing there.

[gogo]

How does one provide a link to one's opinions, thoughts? CIndy on the 911 tape, "It smells like a damn dead body, George "once you smell it you never forget it, I have to be honest with you guys" that is the best I can do . I believe that they knew Caylee was dead. Where did they think she was..... in a morgue? Please provide a link for this statement.

[gaelicpeas]

Regarding the employment of Conway, do you know if it's accurate that they called him from the plane on the way back from CA? Did they just find him in the yellow pages? Had NeJame or someone else recommended him? It seemed strange to me how all that went down in, apparently, a matter of hours. They must have had him in the wings?Roux, I read somewhere and sorry, I don't have the link - that Conway was hired on Tuesday before their trip to CA, but he had not personally met with them until their return from CA. My guess is that it had to do more with the possible obstruction charges, but that is JMO.

[AMS]

You have a very valid point. But it is my understanding that due to her incarceration she will have to sign her rights to her grandparents. I only hope and pray that they will do the right thing for precious Caylee. JMO

I believe she can sign her rights over to anyone she sees fit. GPs...Lee...Baez....anyone named Tony...

IMO.

[kitty1182]

WOW.........I dont think the Anthony's have rights to sell anything that pertains to Caylee.......That right belongs to Casey.......IMO

Yeah, it's not Casey I'm worried about , it's Baez!!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[?noanswer]

Good evening everyone.

It is my understanding of this matter that casey has the right, and unless she makes the decision to sign over said rights to parents, she can defer to her attorney.

I would hope she would turn over all rights to make arrangements for Caylee to her parents.

IMO

Since the A's atty have stated that they plan on having a private service, maybe KC has already given permission. Of course they could have a private service without anyone's permission. They might not be able to have Caylee'r remains there if KC doesn't agree. JMO

[Roux]

Roux, I read somewhere and sorry, I don't have the link - that Conway was hired on Tuesday before their trip to CA, but he had not personally met with them until their return from CA. My guess is that it had to do more with the possible obstruction charges, but that is JMO.

Thanks. Guess I was out of the loop for a couple of days and missed the initial announcement on Conway, but now that you mention it I do remember.

[sunstar]

Maybe some clothes were found that might have a matching piece to go with them..:confused:

I keep thinking of Casey's comment "they haven't even found her clothes yet" so I think if there was anything still at the house tying into where Caylee was found that she could've gotten rid of it when she was on house arrest. :shrug: MOO

[dixie77]

I checked, nothing there.

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check again.

[steffaroob4]

VIDEO: Anthony's attorney speaks to media (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8119349&version=1&locale=EN-US)

Are those balloons in the yard, where he is talking?

[?noanswer]

yes that's what i meant. Thank you
i thought during one of the hearings i heard Baez say they wanted a second autopsy. but honestly i dont see why need one.

He also said he wanted to go over the Body Crime Scene and we saw what happened on that. Since the ME said she could not determine a COD, they might not want to do the autopsy. IF, and a big if, they found something that would determine the COD, are they obligated to turn that info over to the Prosecution? JMO

[cajunmoon]

I keep thinking of Casey's comment "they haven't even found her clothes yet" so I think if there was anything still at the house tying into where Caylee was found that she could've gotten rid of it when she was on house arrest. :shrug: MOO
I am hoping that whatever she thinks she got rid of, if in fact she tried, she made a mistake, and it backfired. she will pay for what she has done.

[joint-heir]

Have the A's taken off to CA for some reason or is that old footage?

[cajunmoon]

Have the A's taken off to CA for some reason or is that old footage?

It's old footage.

[dixie77]

Originally Posted by gaelicpeas
Roux, I read somewhere and sorry, I don't have the link - that Conway was hired on Tuesday before their trip to CA, but he had not personally met with them until their return from CA. My guess is that it had to do more with the possible obstruction charges, but that is JMO.
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I remember seeing this guy maye a couple of months ago. The reason i remember is because of the wheel chair. But i know i have seen him and it was something to do with this case.

[AMS]

Have the A's taken off to CA for some reason or is that old footage?


Old footage!

[dixie77]

He also said he wanted to go over the Body Crime Scene and we saw what happened on that. Since the ME said she could not determine a COD, they might not want to do the autopsy. IF, and a big if, they found something that would determine the COD, are they obligated to turn that info over to the Prosecution? JMO

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yes

[RayStar]

Someone will pay for this crime. This is really a sad case.

[joint-heir]

Thanks, Cajunmoon!

[kitty1182]

I keep thinking of Casey's comment "they haven't even found her clothes yet" so I think if there was anything still at the house tying into where Caylee was found that she could've gotten rid of it when she was on house arrest. :shrug: MOO

Good point..Maybe the clothes were found at the house..

[SavannahStar]

You realize blaming Caseys parents for her actions is enabling Casey, the very thing you are so livid about them doing. Why try to candy coat the truth and not hold the child killer at fault?


Well said.

[sunstar]

He also said he wanted to go over the Body Crime Scene and we saw what happened on that. Since the ME said she could not determine a COD, they might not want to do the autopsy. IF, and a big if, they found something that would determine the COD, are they obligated to turn that info over to the Prosecution? JMO

They're still waiting for the results from the toxicology tests too, so that death certificate could be amended, right? I'm hoping Caylee is buried and not cremated, just in case for some reason more tests needed to be done sometime in the future. I'm remembering how fortunate it was LE could exhume Kathleen Savio (Drew P's 3rd wife). MOO

[*MoonRider*]

It's old footage.

Here's some old footage of Larry King Live the day before Caylee was found. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpaU9-b7HBw&feature=related

[spageddy]

Just catching up today. I am SO glad caylees funeral will be private, and I truly hope it can remain a secret. I think it's time for G&C to forget the media attention that (IMHO) they love and crave, and give their Grandaughter a measure of dignity.
As for the toys being given away- I'm happy about that too. I cringe whenever I pass a memorial site that has been forgotten... deflated balloons, dried up wreaths, dead flowers ...
Up till today I havn't been too happy with anything the A's have done . Maybe they're actually listening to their lawyer. 'bout time.IMO

[VII]

Since the A's atty have stated that they plan on having a private service, maybe KC has already given permission. Of course they could have a private service without anyone's permission. They might not be able to have Caylee'r remains there if KC doesn't agree. JMO

and if she starts THAT crap ...
a Judge can terminate HER right to make the decision.

[sunstar]

Good point..Maybe the clothes were found at the house..

Well maybe she is so sure of herself to have left them "hidden in plain sight" and not destroyed them. :eek: MOO

[impartial]

He also said he wanted to go over the Body Crime Scene and we saw what happened on that. Since the ME said she could not determine a COD, they might not want to do the autopsy. IF, and a big if, they found something that would determine the COD, are they obligated to turn that info over to the Prosecution? JMO


They may want to have the experts examine the remains for an opinion on a date of death. I would imagine the prosecution's experts are going to testify as to what they believe to be an approximate date of death.

Also, they will want to be able to present evidence with respect to the ME's opinion as to the manner of death ... better to have examined the evidence personally.

As far as a cause of death, an unknown cause without trauma to the skeletal remains is advantageous to the defense.

IMO

[kitty1182]

and if she starts THAT crap ...
a Judge can terminate HER right to make the decision.

If she does, I hope George and Cindy gives her a piece of their mind!!!!
In time angry will come and I hope Casey gets all she deserves from her parents!!

[brodysho]

Glad we can start start bringing this to a close. Now let there be justice for Caylee. She has touched so many of us.

I'm especially glad the Anthonys have decided to shut up for right now. Their behaviour during all this was loathesome (as was most of the other players.. just despicable) The Ants knew that poor little baby was dead. I just wonder if they knew she was so close.

That said, I still think they deserve a PRIVATE funeral service to mourn their granddaughter. As sick as I think they all are, I still believe they loved that little girl. This is not something that should be televised. This whole debacle has been a circus, and Caylee deserves so much more than that.
R.I.P little one

[kitty1182]

Well maybe she is so sure of herself to have left them "hidden in plain sight" and not destroyed them. :eek: MOO

It's possible!! She only thinks with half as brain. IMO

[gogo]

I never ever would blame Casey's action on her parents. I am referring to after the realization that theri grandchild is gone. I don't think the Anthony's believe the nanny story. not after the death smell, the vidieos, the death air test, and the choloform. IMo they were protecting their daughte after the realization Caylee had died. What actions are you referring to , I am comfused. what actions, ? the jail cell videos imo are contrived. Monkey wrenches. the sightings imo are contrived, THE CAR SMELLS LIKE STINKING DEATH, what happened to that opinion. ?? You realize blaming Caseys parents for her actions is enabling Casey, the very thing you are so livid about them doing. Why try to candy coat the truth and not hold the child killer at fault?

[cajunmoon]

Here's some old footage of Larry King Live the day before Caylee was found. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpaU9-b7HBw&feature=related
George and Cindy look so stressed there! They are holding it together, but I don't know how.

Just a few hours later, Caylee's remains would be found. When they look back at that interview, I can't help but wonder what they think.

It all must seem like a continuing nightmare.

[cassidy]

That's how I see it. Time will tell. I think I have a pretty good idea of what will come next, but I'm keeping my thoughts to myself for now.

I think I know what you're thinking and I think I'm thinking the same thing.

[daHawg]

I would hope that if the A's truly and I mean TRULY want to keep little Caylee's service private then I hope to God they don't try to make a deal for exclusive pics with some media outlet. I would also wish that all media outlets turn any offers to buy any said pics or exclusive rights to take photos away. JMO.

[sunstar]

It's possible!! She only thinks with half as brain. IMO

I'll agree with that. While it seems she planned how she would kill Caylee, it doesn't seem she put much thought into how she would dispose of her body. I think it's possible she had Caylee's body in the car trunk on 6/24 and almost got busted by her dad so quickly got rid of her right after leaving the house. MOO

[shadowdiana]

Always one in every group.................

I, personally agree that she should check with Coldwater.
And I must also say that I would not want anything sent to the Anthony's that in any way gave them the thought that I support them. Sending anything signed from this board implies that all on it agree.

I don't think that is the case
JMO :unsure:

[bama__angel]

Always one in every group.................


Actually, there is 2............

[VII]

Perhaps G and C initially wanted to believe Casey .. as part of their denial. Then they found themselves basically trapped in that decision with all the media and such. It must have been HARD to see what was unfolding before their (and the worlds eyes) and know that is YOUR daughter the world is talking about.

You would HAVE to take it personally, which would only increase the layers (upon layers) of denial.

I, too, am :w00t: at how they've approached this with the media.
I only hope that they had a little chat and decided they'd step off that nightmare trainride with their daughter once the body was found.

I'd like to see them make one last visit to Casey ...
however,
it MAY be seeing her during her trial when they could sit in the Prosecutions half of the court room.

[cajunmoon]

I believe they wanted Casey's shoes/boots for samples of dirt/debris at the site.

Glad funeral is private. Only noisy people think it shouldn't be. This way no one can say how much or how hard someone cried.

:angry:
Also, nobody would be able to be classless and "springer' and yell obscenities at them, and Nobody ill be able to disrespect caylees memory by trying in their own sick way to punish the Anthonys for any perceived or speculated wrongdoing.

[suso3280]

Since the A's atty have stated that they plan on having a private service, maybe KC has already given permission. Of course they could have a private service without anyone's permission. They might not be able to have Caylee'r remains there if KC doesn't agree. JMO

I hope and pray that the photos of that poor baby's remains find their way straight into Caseys view. Maybe she will be unmoved, however,I pray the sight of her precious little angel as a decomposed corpse(sorry)will haunt her and leave a permanent image in her brain for the damage she alone is responsible for causing.:cursing:
I wonder if somehow she will talk Baez into fighting for a right to attend Caylee's services so that she can continue her 'innocent lil me' facade and try and get more attention to her poor grief stricken heart.(yeah right):mad:
Will there EVER be a reality for Casey?? Will she EVER see or feel the grief or loss for that precious little girl? Is there any humanity left in her, or does icewater run through her veins?
((((shaking my head in disgust and frustration over this horrid event)))God, Bless those who are suffering from this tremendous loss:(

[kitty1182]

I hope it is private..Can you just imagine someone inside or outside a church screaming something like"if not for your daughter, you would not be here today" or something like that?
Yes, it should be private...

[shadowdiana]

Actually, there is 2............

I am sure there are quite many more.
The issue, however, not only one of personal opinion, butis one of ?legality for the board.
If it comes from "The Board", it comes from the people who own the board.
I think they have a right to comment on that.

JMO :glare:

[trich]

yes that's what i meant. Thank you
i thought during one of the hearings i heard Baez say they wanted a second autopsy. but honestly i dont see why need one.

Baez did say he wanted a second autopsy.
But that might fall by the wayside just like the access to the site did.
Once he got it he then didn't want it.

[kitty1182]

I hope and pray that the photos of that poor baby's remains find their way straight into Caseys view. Maybe she will be unmoved, however,I pray the sight of her precious little angel as a decomposed corpse(sorry)will haunt her and leave a permanent image in her brain for the damage she alone is responsible for causing.:cursing:
I wonder if somehow she will talk Baez into fighting for a right to attend Caylee's services so that she can continue her 'innocent lil me' facade and try and get more attention to her poor grief stricken heart.(yeah right):mad:
Will there EVER be a reality for Casey?? Will she EVER see or feel the grief or loss for that precious little girl? Is there any humanity left in her, or does icewater run through her veins?
((((shaking my head in disgust and frustration over this horrid event)))God, Bless those who are suffering from this tremendous loss:(


Maybe even JB won't know when the private service will be held..(wink)

[kitty1182]

You are probably correct, but the seller's won't be the Anthony's.

IMO, the name will start with a J...

[VII]

I hope and pray that the photos of that poor baby's remains find their way straight into Caseys view. Maybe she will be unmoved, however,I pray the sight of her precious little angel as a decomposed corpse(sorry)will haunt her and leave a permanent image in her brain for the damage she alone is responsible for causing.:cursing: .... snip

Why would Casey need photos of what is left of Caylee.
Only SHE knows the COD and saw her life pass before her very eyes.
Compassion from HER at this point?
I highly doubt it.

[cajunmoon]

Perhaps G and C initially wanted to believe Casey .. as part of their denial. Then they found themselves basically trapped in that decision with all the media and such. It must have been HARD to see what was unfolding before their (and the worlds eyes) and know that is YOUR daughter the world is talking about.

You would HAVE to take it personally, which would only increase the layers (upon layers) of denial.

I, too, am :w00t: at how they've approached this with the media.
I only hope that they had a little chat and decided they'd step off that nightmare trainride with their daughter once the body was found.

I'd like to see them make one last visit to Casey ...
however,
it MAY be seeing her during her trial when they could sit in the Prosecutions half of the court room.

You mean in the gallery?
I think they behaved horribly over the past months, but I believe that, although none of us would like to think we would react as they, we need to understand that raw grief and a persons reaction is totally unpredictable, ours *** well. I also believe they have broken the law, but it is up to the State attorney to press any charges.

I don't think they separate the courtroom like at weddings, or do they?

I would think they would want to make one final visit to Casey sometime during the next week. It is the holidays and to add to their sorrow, they will have to say their final farewells to Caylee. It will be difficult for them with all of the world watching.

[shadowdiana]

EEk no public funeral !!
Poor people have enough to deal with

What Sweetly meant, and later corrected, was to say memorial
Maybe it is in the morning thread...

[*MoonRider*]

I'll agree with that. While it seems she planned how she would kill Caylee, it doesn't seem she put much thought into how she would dispose of her body. I think it's possible she had Caylee's body in the car trunk on 6/24 and almost got busted by her dad so quickly got rid of her right after leaving the house. MOO

IMO Caylee was already in the woods on 6/24 because of the body farm results but I believe the smell was still in the car. Besides there is no way in FL heat that a body could be in the car that long for 8 days. Casey thought the smell would go away. I think she disposed of her "garbage" on 6/18 or so. I do feel for George & Cindy. Can you imagine smelling your dead grandchild? This is a special time of year for Christians and Jews alike and we all pray for little Caylee. JMO

[sunstar]

That was what came out of the pretrial hearing, which was held right before the remains were discovered on 12/11.

I think it's a safe bet the trial will be long past March 2009.

I remember somebody mentioning (I think on Geraldo's show) it could be next summer now that her remains were found. MOO

[kitty1182]

IMO Caylee was already in the woods on 6/24 because of the body farm results but I believe the smell was still in the car. Besides there is no way in FL heat that a body could be in the car that long for 8 days. Casey thought the smell would go away. I think she disposed of her "garbage" on 6/18 or so. I do feel for George & Cindy. Can you imagine smelling your dead grandchild? This is a special time of year for Christians and Jews alike and we all pray for little Caylee. JMO

I think she was still in the trunk the day GA wanted the gas cans...That is why she didn't want him to look in the trunk..I think as soon as she left after giving him the cans, she rode down the road and dumped the body out...MO

[VII]

....snip

I don't think they separate the courtroom like at weddings, or do they?

....snip....


I don't think court rooms are deLIBERately separated ..
I think it just happens that way ...
In most I've seen, the supporters of the Pros tend to sit on THAT side, where supporters of the Def sit on the OTHER side.....
then
you have stragglers who get caught sitting where there is an open seat ...

[sunstar]

IMO Caylee was already in the woods on 6/24 because of the body farm results but I believe the smell was still in the car. Besides there is no way in FL heat that a body could be in the car that long for 8 days. Casey thought the smell would go away. I think she disposed of her "garbage" on 6/18 or so. I do feel for George & Cindy. Can you imagine smelling your dead grandchild? This is a special time of year for Christians and Jews alike and we all pray for little Caylee. JMO

I feel for them too. What a sad Christmas it will be. :sad:

[gogo]

I agree they never believed the nanny story, but wanted to because the death of that little girl is a huge deal, its major, they loved her, they said things in anger and didn't want to hear people blame their daughter, she wanted proof, she wanted a body, she got what she asked for and who wants that news, thats horrid reality, and its the Anthonys reality and I think they realize the magnitude of the destruction Casey is capable of, do you think they were supposed to just accept Caylee was missing, and then go back to work the next day and just forget about it all?

I believe that Cindy and George especially cindy loved their grandchild like I love mine, with all my heart and soul, Adored. treasured and was a wonderful devoted nonni, I also feel she was devasted, in a mental persecusion, feeling as if she would die, but once you realize it has happened, and I believe they eventualy did, they went into survivol mode. If the person who was responsible for her death was not their daughter God only knows what they would be saying/doing. Cindy is a mother tiger, fighting to save her cub. no matter what it takes. Caylee is gone, Casey is here. To save Casey imo she will do and say anything, and along the way profit from it. imo gogo

[aubrey04]

Sweetly could you run that rule by me. I wasn't here for quite a number of months and last time I was here people were reporting people for excising part of their posts. Can't win; sigh. Anyway I never heard that rule. sigh

I read the moderator's sticky notice about being sure to include the quotes when replying to someone so it would quote properly. I'm aware of that. I looked for the general rules this morning but couldn't find them. Much appreciated if you could help me with this.

Coldwater just said the long posts slow the board down, so if you are going to quote a long post.. then snip it or just address your post (without any quote) to the person whose post you are responding to.

And yes, we are supposed to get the quoting right with the brackets. Otherwise one posters comments get mangled with another persons and you can't tell who posted the original post. Luckily someone hasn't incorrectly quoted my posts or I'd be upset. I don't want someone elses words attributed to me.. I used to have the link to the sticky about quoting in my siggy..might have to put it back in there.

[sunstar]

I think she was still in the trunk the day GA wanted the gas cans...That is why she didn't want him to look in the trunk..I think as soon as she left after giving him the cans, she rode down the road and dumped the body out...MO

That's what I just said ~ GMTA once again! :)

[cajunmoon]

Well, maybe the if LE went and searched the land where Caylee was eventually found better at the beginning of August, there wouldn't have been such ridiculous tips, after all, we know they are all bogus.
Hi MalloryCat, LE had a lot to deal with, including people who had no business getting involved, inserting themselves into this investigation. we don't know how these calls were actually handled just yet. all we have are rumors. and yes, a large percentage of the news we get from the media is rumor.

[rosieposett]

I would hope that if the A's truly and I mean TRULY want to keep little Caylee's service private then I hope to God they don't try to make a deal for exclusive pics with some media outlet. I would also wish that all media outlets turn any offers to buy any said pics or exclusive rights to take photos away. JMO.

ITA. BUT I fully expect the A's to not turn down any opportunity to make money. I also don't expect any media outlet to turn down an opportunity to rights and photos. See? Everybody wins!! Right? No, wrong. I am really jaded when it comes to the As. The media will always seek and usually find the sordid and tragic. The As don't have to play the game with the media, but IMO, they will if there is a dollar in it for them. Or a first class seat, a Ritz room, a camera pointed on them. jmo rosie

[Daisy'sMom]

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Beautiful idea. Count me in, also.

I have a better idea. Why not volunteer for St Jude's and try to make the world a better place for other children. Something good can be accomplished in Caylee's memory. There are alot of children that need your help.

[kitty1182]

That's what I just said ~ GMTA once again! :)

:wink:....................

[september]

I certainly hope nothing like Inside Edition or Entertainment Tonight -- remember Anna Nicole's funeral? But one does have to wonder about this Davis producer guy being around. Surely they wouldn't do anything like that.

Oh yes they would. This family has been making money off Caylee since July. Neither one has worked since July....up until July they had to work.......what's changed?

[cajunmoon]

Coldwater just said the long posts slow the board down, so if you are going to quote a long post.. then snip it or just address your post (without any quote) to the person whose post you are responding to.

And yes, we are supposed to get the quoting right with the brackets. Otherwise one posters comments get mangled with another persons and you can't tell who posted the original post. Luckily someone hasn't incorrectly quoted my posts or I'd be upset. I don't want someone elses words attributed to me.. I used to have the link to the sticky about quoting in my siggy..might have to put it back in there.

I have a suggestion about the long posts. why not refer to the post number and the poster when replying if it is too long.

Caylee has brought out a lot of emotion in all of us, and IMO we tend to try to express our feelings so that we are understood and not misunderstood by anyone.

:rose: for Caylee

[rosieposett]

I, personally agree that she should check with Coldwater.
And I must also say that I would not want anything sent to the Anthony's that in any way gave them the thought that I support them. Sending anything signed from this board implies that all on it agree.

I don't think that is the case
JMO :unsure:

These are my thoughts also. Thanks for stating it so clearly.

[?noanswer]

I would hope that if the A's truly and I mean TRULY want to keep little Caylee's service private then I hope to God they don't try to make a deal for exclusive pics with some media outlet. I would also wish that all media outlets turn any offers to buy any said pics or exclusive rights to take photos away. JMO.

I keep thinking of the ANS debacle. All the pictures, even that big birthday bash for Dannylynn splashed in the media. Now I don't hear anything about any of them. I guess the lawyer and the baby daddy are living happily ever after. Caylee nor any of the A's were ever in the public eye until Caylee disappeared. I can't see any media outlets investing a lot of money in this. As they say fame (whether good or bad) is fleeting. JMO

[september]

You are probably correct, but the seller's won't be the Anthony's.

Oh please surely you don't think the Anthonys won't get the money. I agree it will be hidden.....not because they are ashamed but because of concern regarding their public image. You know now they are celebs and will be touring the country speaking out for missing children .

[SwFlorida]

Nice thing to do, doesn't change my opinion of them 1 bit. I see it as a ploy to try and change public opinion of them, as I rememeber the last 6 months of their BS. What they do in the next few weeks will tell us much more. And I'm sure it wasn't they're idea to do this. I refuse to drink the Anthony's koolaid. It was poisonious to Caylee. Bless her heart!!!!!!! RIP Sweety:rose:.JMO

ITA..........:thumbup:

[Not staying]

Oh yes they would. This family has been making money off Caylee since July. Neither one has worked since July....up until July they had to work.......what's changed?

Have a link to where they have made money off Caylee. Keep hearing this, but haven't seen any proof. Some of you are down right ugly. Cindy will never do anything right. I saw them try to find a live Caylee over and over again. I think they are trying to do the right thing now that they know for sure she is gone. Do I think she will never see Casey again, probably she will and I would too if this was my daughter. Has she been to see her since god knows how long. No, she went to get information. I've watched the vidoes too, she was in pain and grasping anything, I mean anything to believe this child was stolen by the nanny. Why not? Casey had them all fooled for so long. Some of you are obessed with Cindy, cry hate but want to see everything she does and does not do. And than there are some beautiful posts here that are supportive and waiting to see what happens instead of speculating what she will do. I have never seen such negativity than what I've seen here for this family, and alot of it is speculation and not fact. I'm really surprised it's allowed. Someone said last night, it''s just discaussion, not it's not, it's mean and ugly.

[bchand]

You are probably correct, but the seller's won't be the Anthony's.

Jose? KidFinders? Who do you think will be the seller?

[steffaroob4]

Brad Conway Presser (http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=conwaypresser1_122120080433&cat=CAC&title=Brad%20Conway%20Presser)

[dixie77]

Is Caseys trial suppose to start in March ?
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I have a strong feeling that there will not be a trial. I feel in my gut that Casey will confess. jmo

[Not staying]

Did you think it was acceptable for Cindy to insinuate, in her LE and FBI interviews, that it was Jesse Grund (her daughter's former fiance, who loved little Caylee as did his parents) and Amy Huizenga (who had been nothing but a very good friend to Casey) who were involved in Caylee's disappearance?

How do you think the Grunds, the Huizengas, and Tony Lazarro's parents feel about the Anthonys pointing fingers at their children for the crimes of Casey Anthony? Does your sympathy extend to those parents, dragged into this nightmare because the Anthonys were looking for someone besides Casey to blame for Caylee's disappearance?

I would have looked at everybody and everything. She was in a nightmare and most likely looking back now could have done things different. I can't even imagine if it were me. Still has nothing to do with everone saying they are making money off Caylee, and now the speculation off money for funeral pictures. I bet many news stations have offered to pay the for an exclusive the past few days, why aren't the greedy Anthony's out there doing the mdeia blitz as you say they have done.

[dixie77]

I have a better idea. Why not volunteer for St Jude's and try to make the world a better place for other children. Something good can be accomplished in Caylee's memory. There are alot of children that need your help.

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I support St. Jude's hospital with a monthly donation. Its a very worthy cause.

[ellegna]

Have a link to where they have made money off Caylee. Keep hearing this, but haven't seen any proof.

*snipped for space*

Well something surfaced a while back ago. IIRC Cindy accused Garrison taking money that rightfully belonged to them. I don't have a link where Cindy made that comment but I do have this:
Dateline Invoice (http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/wegworker/Moniesreceived.gif)
It was rumored the A's were not paid to appear on various shows but use of Caylee's pictures were.

[rosieposett]

Did you think it was acceptable for Cindy to insinuate, in her LE and FBI interviews, that it was Jesse Grund (her daughter's former fiance, who loved little Caylee as did his parents) and Amy Huizenga (who had been nothing but a very good friend to Casey) who were involved in Caylee's disappearance?

How do you think the Grunds, the Huizengas, and Tony Lazarro's parents feel about the Anthonys pointing fingers at their children for the crimes of Casey Anthony? Does your sympathy extend to those parents, dragged into this nightmare because the Anthonys were looking for someone besides Casey to blame for Caylee's disappearance?

I keep thinking of CA's words to Casey that "Zanaida has a key to our house". Liar, liar pants on fire. Cindy and Casey know there is no Zanaida. Cindy already said she never met Zanny or knew anything about her. I AM sorry she lost her granddaughter even if I dont sound like it. But this liar sends me ballistic. Like mother (Cindy); like daughter
Casey). moo rosie

[Not staying]

I don't think it's up to you to tell us how the Grunds, the Huizengas, or Tony Lazarro's parents feel about what has transpired. Obviously it's been a horrible situation for everyone concerned because Casey insinuated something sinister, not Cindy. Cindy was only trying to get to the bottom of finding a little girl she loved and adored, and I don't see any of those families trying to bash her down.

You said that very well. Can you imagine, web cams in your door yard, news trucks, people screaming baby killers, FBI, LE and trying to find a preicous little girl. Can't even imagine. I like Cindy, don't know her, but she handled herself better than me. The night she invited the protester in her home to talk said a lot. Of course she didn't do everything right, but God think about it for a minute if it were you. We all have family dynamics that anyone could turn to something ugly without knowing the whole story.

[sunstar]

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I have a strong feeling that there will not be a trial. I feel in my gut that Casey will confess. jmo

Confess to deliberately killing Caylee and accept the maximum punishment the state will ask for at trial? The DA has to agree to any plea bargains and I don't think they would agree to her saying it was an accident and give her a light sentence. MOO

[MrsHudson]

I think you can thank the people who choose to stand outside the Anthony home screaming babykiller for being left out in the cold.

I commend them for having a private funeral. I hope they stay private from now on.

[Cury-us Coyote]

<Respectfully snipped>
I'm sorry your compassion and understanding for the humanity of the Anthonys doesn't extend to the LE officers who've been working this case from the beginning.

IMO unfortunately for LE, the beginning started 31 days too late.

[bchand]

I'll probably have pillows thrown at me for this but I kind of think Casey, George & Cindy are victims of those who want to profit off of Caylee. IMO Jose is the worst thing that ever happened to Casey.

<<snipped>>
IMO Enter KidFinders. George & Cindy were duped by them as well. They saw the potential for the money and took advantage of the grieving grandparents. It is very sad to me how the almighty dollar changes people. JMO

No pillows from me, I agree with you. The "pros" came after them. Larry Garrison for a start. He's known for this! They seem to be under KidFinder's spell and can't see they are just out for $$$. I've just come to the opinion that George and Cindy are very naive and Lee, well my opinion of him is much lower.

I agree with you on Jose too. Big mistake.
He thinks this case is all about him.

[Neffy]

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I have a strong feeling that there will not be a trial. I feel in my gut that Casey will confess. jmo

I see a Bobby Cutts confession at most. IMO the trial is imminent. They'll see how good the case is against her then come up with the "accidental" homicide which will be so well devised that it will match up to the testimony against her. She will be the last person up there and no cross when she is finished with her version.

[Not staying]

Well something surfaced a while back ago. IIRC Cindy accused Garrison taking money that rightfully belonged to them. I don't have a link where Cindy made that comment but I do have this:
Dateline Invoice (http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r129/wegworker/Moniesreceived.gif)
It was rumored the A's were not paid to appear on various shows but use of Caylee's pictures were.

No I will go back and find the link. They were mad that he accepted money, no mention of mad because the money belonged to them. They were tring to clear this whole thing up. As for dateline, where did the money go. Was it for T-shirts and searching for those credible tips that kept coming. It wasn't a lot of money. I was almost convinced with the mall sighting, that bald spot on the right hand side kept throwing me. Looked like Caylee even though I was convinced she was gone.

[Neffy]

No pillows from me, I agree with you. The "pros" came after them. Larry Garrison for a start. He's known for this! They seem to be under KidFinder's spell and can't see they are just out for $$$. I've just come to the opinion that George and Cindy are very naive and Lee, well my opinion of him is much lower.

I agree with you on Jose too. Big mistake.
He thinks this case is all about him.

Lobbs Pillows! I strongly disagree. Cindy is running this show.

[Lavenia]

I'll probably have pillows thrown at me for this but I kind of think Casey, George & Cindy are victims of those who want to profit off of Caylee. IMO Jose is the worst thing that ever happened to Casey. He is not qualified, inept and only trying to further his career at her expense. He had a limited immunity deal on the table and let it expire. If Casey would have had a decent attorney from Day one or should I say Day 31 this circus would never have happened. She could have been cracked early on if Baez did not see the $$$ train. IMO Enter KidFinders. George & Cindy were duped by them as well. They saw the potential for the money and took advantage of the grieving grandparents. It is very sad to me how the almighty dollar changes people. JMO

I certainly won't throw pillows at you but I will disagree that Casey is a victim of anyone, anyhow, anyway. She just found someone who's willing to play games with her as it were. Kidfinder's, too.

I hope Dakota's okay.

[bchand]

I see a Bobby Cutts confession at most. IMO the trial is imminent. They'll see how good the case is against her then come up with the "accidental" homicide which will be so well devised that it will match up to the testimony against her. She will be the last person up there and no cross when she is finished with her version.


Awww, if she confesses we'll never get to see Jose's shining moment when he gets up in court and gives that "stupendous opening statement" which will make us all say AHA so that's what happened.

And forget about the Mother of the Year Award. I'll be crushed.

[gaelicpeas]

I think Sweetly may have had an issue about not being able to view the funeral service at one point, and thats what spawned the issue.

jmoTrue, but I doubt Sweetly would cast aspersion on the service.

Some folks just want to be able to grieve. I can understand the Anthony's wanting a private service.

Just hope it will remain private.

[Adalena935]

Sure, CW asked that we NOT quote long quotes as it makes the board come to a crawl when posters do this. I suggest snipping/shortening them to the particulars you are referring to or just address the person you are responding to so they know you are responding to their recent post.:tonguewag:

Okie Dokie Sweets. I can do that. Thanks so much for the help.

[bchand]

Lobbs Pillows! I strongly disagree. Cindy is running this show.

Oh I'm no Cindy fan Neffy. I'm just in a wait and see mode right now until we see what she does next.

And I didn't mean to agree that Casey is anyone's victim. Not at all.

:::tossing that pillow right back at ya:::

[Lavenia]

Awww, if she confesses we'll never get to see Jose's shining moment when he gets up in court and gives that "stupendous opening statement" which will make us all say AHA so that's what happened.

And forget about the Mother of the Year Award. I'll be crushed.

We'll hear all about it on the book tours. :rolleyes:

[Neffy]

I, personally agree that she should check with Coldwater.
And I must also say that I would not want anything sent to the Anthony's that in any way gave them the thought that I support them. Sending anything signed from this board implies that all on it agree.

I don't think that is the case
JMO :unsure:


That most certainly is NOT the case. As a member to this forum I do not support what the Anthony's have done. To appoint oneself to speak on eveyone's behalf is inconceivable.

[MrsHudson]

That would be a very nice idea to have a public memorial service and let the family have their own private one. MOO

I think the whole thing should be private and the family should be quiet now until the trial. Then I would know they have changed. Not likely IMHO.

[bchand]

We'll hear all about it on the book tours. :rolleyes:



lol You behave (welcome back)

[Neffy]

Oh I'm no Cindy fan Neffy. I'm just in a wait and see mode right now until we see what she does next.

And I didn't mean to agree that Casey is anyone's victim. Not at all.

:::tossing that pillow right back at ya:::


Heh heh *bobb's and weaves*

They are the poster family for what not to do and I'd strongly advocate for anyone to do the opposite of what they'd done. Throw any aquaintence under the bus, hamper and undermine LE, quit your jobs and go on a PR tour with no information about the "kidnappers" just trash LE and ask people to stay on the look out for a toddler under three.

[MrsHudson]

While the memorial might be private, I'd be willing to bet that exclusive photos will appear from the highest bidder. JMO

That would not surprise me at all.

[aubrey04]

Did you think it was acceptable for Cindy to insinuate, in her LE and FBI interviews, that it was Jesse Grund (her daughter's former fiance, who loved little Caylee as did his parents) and Amy Huizenga (who had been nothing but a very good friend to Casey) who were involved in Caylee's disappearance?

How do you think the Grunds, the Huizengas, and Tony Lazarro's parents feel about the Anthonys pointing fingers at their children for the crimes of Casey Anthony? Does your sympathy extend to those parents, dragged into this nightmare because the Anthonys were looking for someone besides Casey to blame for Caylee's disappearance?

ITA

Or splashing some kids picture, which she knew was not Caylee, all over the media. She's done some truly heinous things.

[MrsHudson]

The body was found and it put fear into them. They cant derail the investigation any longer.

We have not heard the last of them.

[Not staying]

But I didn't ask you, lol. I asked Not staying.

Sorry Whatsay said it better than me. I've seen nothing but support from these people, they realize it was Casey, and I haven't heard an accusation about these families since that interview.

[Neffy]

Awww, if she confesses we'll never get to see Jose's shining moment when he gets up in court and gives that "stupendous opening statement" which will make us all say AHA so that's what happened.

And forget about the Mother of the Year Award. I'll be crushed.



Oh Jose will have it alright. He'll get his riveting moments I'm sure. See the confession comes at the end of the trial after everyone has spoken and they realize that their defense is no defense at all. Backed into the corner and this is all they'll have left.

But he had the DP on the table. Spared him the DP too.

[aubrey04]

I don't think it's up to you to tell us how the Grunds, the Huizengas, or Tony Lazarro's parents feel about what has transpired. Obviously it's been a horrible situation for everyone concerned because Casey insinuated something sinister, not Cindy. Cindy was only trying to get to the bottom of finding a little girl she loved and adored, and I don't see any of those families trying to bash her down.

I think Richard Grund made it BRUTALLY clear how he felt about Cindy trying to pin this "kidnapping" on his son, while he was on Nancy Grace. VERY clear.. I can dig up the transcript if you would like to review it.

[gaelicpeas]

LOL, the LE are the only player here who are allowed to mess up BIG TIME, and we coddle them and say thats ok!! Because its not ok, no matter what way its sliced in dice, this wasn't just a one time caller, he called 3 days in a row, and obviously the LE did not do what they said they did, the area was not clear. So its crappy police work and I hope they do a investigation and get to the bottom of it, and hopefully the officer was not Rusicano or any other officer Casey knew.

JMO
hmmm.. last I heard, you wanted Casey to be responsible for this murder. Now you want her off due to a technicality? Just wondering, and TIA.

[MrsHudson]

And I say more power to them if that is the case, since I am sure they have lost alot through their daughter's escapades.

Anthony kool-aid anyone? :ohmy:

[Not staying]

ITA

Or splashing some kids picture, which she knew was not Caylee, all over the media. She's done some truly heinous things.

She didn't, the security at the mall andthe lawyer and his girlfriend and the media did. I would too. Oh and no one came forward to say it wasn't Caylee but their child did they. And don't tell me it's because they didn't want to get involved. They didn't need to be indentified, could have just called fox and verified it wasn't Caylee. It looked like her.

[march27]

I've come to accept that there are certain people whose lives revolve around a message board that don't have the first clue in how they'd deal with something as horrendous as has transpired over the past six months. Thank God I haven't lost my faith in humanity over the vitriolic posts I've read here because so many other people (both virtual and real) have been supportive of what can only be described as Cindy and George's family nightmare.

Ita. Unless you've been through something this horrible how can anyone assume they would know how the would act. The A's whole world has fallen apart and I cant imagine what they are going through.

[sunstar]

That God that's over and done with. I'm so glad the family of that "mall child" either remained oblivious, or went underground. Good grief.

I'm so glad there won't be any more "sightings" with innocent children's photos all over tv and Internet. MOO

[anyonesguess]

She didn't, the security at the mall andthe lawyer and his girlfriend and the media did. I would too. Oh and no one came forward to say it wasn't Caylee but their child did they. And don't tell me it's because they didn't want to get involved. They didn't need to be indentified, could have just called fox and verified it wasn't Caylee. It looked like her.

I do not think that child looked anything like Caylee from the minute the picture was first shown in the media.

[anyonesguess]

I've come to accept that there are certain people whose lives revolve around a message board that don't have the first clue in how they'd deal with something as horrendous as has transpired over the past six months. Thank God I haven't lost my faith in humanity over the vitriolic posts I've read here because so many other people (both virtual and real) have been supportive of what can only be described as Cindy and George's family nightmare.

Cindy Anthony perpetuated her own misery and agony during the last 6 months. She could have stopped her lying and covering up months ago. She brought this on herself for any suffering she has done since this debacle began when she started covering for Casey instead of Caylee imo.

[shadowdiana]

Yeah, unless you think its ok there were tips called in for 3 days in a row about a bag and a body,(snipped):

There were no tips called in about a body.
Bag, yes.

[gaelicpeas]

I am not thinking about this personally, I am thinking about it based on whats going on and the surroundings and how the body was found and where. I understand what the defense is going to try to attempt, thats all.

If it was my call she would have a needle in her arm, but thats just my opinionOkay, thanks, just wanted to clarify. Apparently LE is doing an internal investigation of the August calls from Kronk, and hopefully we will hear what happened.

I would really hate for the killer to get off on this sort of thing. JMO

[cajunmoon]

Can you give me a link to the post where I said I do not have compassion for the LE? You can pretend that them not finding the body after being called 3 times to the exact location is not a big deal, thats fine, but it is whether or not you agree.
they were not called three times TO the EXACT SCENE. Not true.

They were called three times to the same area.

[anyonesguess]

LE IS interested in their own embarassment -- -- that's why they're conducting their own internal investigation.

The Anthony's are human and make mistakes, so perhaps you could extend them the same leeway, considering they had a much greater emotional investment than any officer that went to the scene and cleared it to get his day over with.

I guess that is why LE announced the meter readers calls before anyone hear knew about it this past week. Yeah they are covering up big time. GMAB.

[Lavenia]

Hiya, Lavenia,

I like the guy. And my heart goes out to him.

Hey WhatSay! Yeah, I can be pretty gullible at first glance, but I feel pretty easy about him so far. If he's bad, he's really good, lol.

[dixie77]

Yeah, unless you think its ok there were tips called in for 3 days in a row about a bag and a body, in an area where a little girl was missing and the LE responded and cleared it, so they say, so were they really looking that hard? Why you are so appalled by these questions and observations are beyond me, but whatever, lol.:w00t:

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U seem to think that LE deliberately did not want to find Caylee. Why would u think that? R people not allowed to make mistakes? The important thing is that Caylee has been found and will not have to lay in the woods in the elements of nature. jmo

[shadowdiana]

Who knows?
You say often enough that we cannot know what a person is thinking, or where they are at any moment.
That it is supposition

He can't have called in about a body unless he looked in it and saw one, could he?
That is supposition

[Not staying]

Cindy Anthony perpetuated her own misery and agony during the last 6 months. She could have stopped her lying and covering up months ago. She brought this on herself for any suffering she has done since this debacle began when she started covering for Casey instead of Caylee imo.

Oh I get it, she's been camped out at the jail with Casey instead of looking for a Live Caylee. I haven't even seen her name on the stupid commisionary account that some of you like to post or not once visiting. OH again I get it, she's afraid of being recorded. Casey did this. Going back to not staying, i try to skip to the informative, thoughtful discussions, but all I see here is pure hatred and obsession.

[cloe23]

Awww, if she confesses we'll never get to see Jose's shining moment when he gets up in court and gives that "stupendous opening statement" which will make us all say AHA so that's what happened.

And forget about the Mother of the Year Award. I'll be crushed.

Hey bchand, Do you or anyone really think that the dream team would support Casey pleading guilty or requesting a bench trial? :ohmy:
I have a lot of reading up to do but can't get to it til tomorrow. I was just wondering if I missed something today?
I'm peeping in here, tis the season ya know...........

[aubrey04]

they were not called three times TO the EXACT SCENE. Not true.

They were called three times to the same area.

right. An area which is described as being 5 miles in radius. I wonder how many tips they got from people saying they saw a suspicious bag, clothing item, shoe, jewelry or other crap people tend to dump in the woods. Remember Kiomarie Cruz said they used to hang out there and bury animals. I am sure there is tons of garbage out there.

5,000 + tips can not be easy for the cops to handle. How do you prioritize which ones are more credible than the rest? why would LE really freak out about a bag found in the woods? I don't think anyone thought she was out there..it was too close to her home.

LE was busy searching landfills and other areas - where her pings landed - like by the Orlando airport. I studied those pings for HOURS and HOURs trying to pinpoint where caylee could be..not once did I ever suspect she would be that close... not even for 2 seconds did that cross my mind.

[anyonesguess]

Oh I get it, she's been camped out at the jail with Casey instead of looking for a Live Caylee. I haven't even seen her name on the stupid commisionary account that some of you like to post or not once visiting. OH again I get it, she's afraid of being recorded. Casey did this. Going back to not staying, i try to skip to the informative, thoughtful discussions, but all I see here is pure hatred and obsession.


Well maybe it is good you are going back to not posting. Your statments make no sense. All I see you posting is gullible naive thoughts.
Casey has NOT been in Jail for the entire past 6 months, maybe 3 TOTAL if that.

Cindy Anthony has KNOWN that Caylee was gone for a LONG time. She started her lies, and coverups when she washed those pants found in the car and deliberately gave the wrong hairbrush to LE when they asked for Caylees.

Have fun lurking and drinking the Anthony Kool-Aid.

[bchand]

Hey bchand, Do you or anyone really think that the dream team would support Casey pleading guilty or requesting a bench trial? :ohmy:
I have a lot of reading up to do but can't get to it til tomorrow. I was just wondering if I missed something today?
I'm peeping in here, tis the season ya know...........

I don't think they'd have a choice if she decides to do that, but there is NO ONE around her who is encouraging her to plead guilty. They all want the show to go on IMO.

[gaelicpeas]

I just hope the State can prove it was murder, I sure hope her hair holds some clues, I would hate to see her be able to live outside of a prison and possibly have more children, it would be horrible for Caylee. Casey is never going to admit the truth, and the situation involving the meter reader is weird, but I don't think he killed or had anything to do with Caylee, but it does raise reasonable doubt, I hate it, but it is what it is.

jmo
:rose:I agree that the meter reader situation is what it is. And I will await LE's internal investigation into that matter. However, I don't see the point of harping on it until we hear what they say. But that is just me. Your mileage may vary. JMO

[Neffy]

Yeah, unless you think its ok there were tips called in for 3 days in a row about a bag and a body, in an area where a little girl was missing and the LE responded and cleared it, so they say, so were they really looking that hard? Why you are so appalled by these questions and observations are beyond me, but whatever, lol.:w00t:


Can you give me the # of these tips and where it landed. I believe it's between 1 and 5000+

How hard could they've been working ?

This while getting the run around from the Anthony family of fake child sightings, fake kidnappers, fake cooperation, Storms, working with equisearch and 1000 of volunteers.

I totally back the Orlando LE. They're was definately a miscommunication but nothing more.

[Duckaroo]

This case had a Mother who ultimately murdered her own child..who claimed she'd been "kidnapped" and rather than reporting her child missing right away, waited 31 days later. Whose mother spun the biggest web of lies I think I've ever seen/heard..she lied to them just about, if not every time, her mouth opened and family members, (imo especially CA) who not only bought into the mom's lies, they also helped in spinning them, while knocking LE, along with many other people.

Given all that and whatever other obstacles I may have left out, I think on the whole these guys (LE and all those who helped them) did a great job, I think they put their hearts and souls into this case.

MOO

[march27]

Cindy Anthony perpetuated her own misery and agony during the last 6 months. She could have stopped her lying and covering up months ago. She brought this on herself for any suffering she has done since this debacle began when she started covering for Casey instead of Caylee imo.

Wow so if she had been honest she wouldnt had suffered?

[aubrey04]

This case had a Mother who ultimately murdered her own child..who claimed she'd been "kidnapped" and rather than reporting her child missing right away, waited 31 days later. Whose mother spun the biggest web of lies I think I've ever seen/heard..she lied to them just about, if not every time, her mouth opened and family members, (imo especially CA) who not only bought into the mom's lies, they also helped in spinning them, while knocking LE, along with many other people.

Given all that and whatever other obstacles I may have left out, I think on the whole these guys (LE and all those who helped them) did a great job, I think they put their hearts and souls into this case.

MOO

Nicely said. I agree. :rose:

[MrsHudson]

You realize blaming Caseys parents for her actions is enabling Casey, the very thing you are so livid about them doing. Why try to candy coat the truth and not hold the child killer at fault?

The A's are being blamed for their own actions. Actions which ended up being unlawful requiring them to seek immunity from prosecution. THAT IS A FACT. A fact you refuse to acknowledge it seems to me. And how did it come about that they needed immunity? I will tell you by using your own words as above. It was because they tried to "candy coat the truth and not hold the child killer at fault."

They still might be indicted for their own actions in this legal case.

They are not heroes.

They are not role models.

They are not fit to be advocates for missing children under the circumstances.

I do not get the attraction to these people.

Caylee yes. The rest of them are awful.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Yes, so far so good with Brad Conway. He's believable.

IA. IMO, a good spokeman thus far except that little part about ALL of Caylee's playmates. Didn't Casey message her brother Lee about few friends of Caylee's age? Casey has a reputation of being untruthful so BC gets a pass - awaiting more observations.
jmo

[cajunmoon]

right. An area which is described as being 5 miles in radius. I wonder how many tips they got from people saying they saw a suspicious bag, clothing item, shoe, jewelry or other crap people tend to dump in the woods. Remember Kiomarie Cruz said they used to hang out there and bury animals. I am sure there is tons of garbage out there.

5,000 + tips can not be easy for the cops to handle. How do you prioritize which ones are more credible than the rest? why would LE really freak out about a bag found in the woods? I don't think anyone thought she was out there..it was too close to her home.

LE was busy searching landfills and other areas - where her pings landed - like by the Orlando airport. I studied those pings for HOURS and HOURs trying to pinpoint where caylee could be..not once did I ever suspect she would be that close... not even for 2 seconds did that cross my mind.

ITA with your post. LE has a lot to handle and IM they are doing a good job considering that they are understaffed overworked and now being maligned and villified by a few who have issues with them.

They are investigating these three instances of being called, and they will react accordingly. I just can't imagine people not realizing just how big and how chaotic a case like this one can be.

[shadowdiana]

Yes, Sanity, it seems posters are taking this very personally.
Stating opinions is great, mocking or attacking, even nicely, others for theirs goes a bit far. I thought we were here to discuss the merits of the evidence; and post our own opinions. No way can we all agree.

[march27]

The hatred I've seen on this board goes beyond anything I ever expected to witness from total strangers. Thank God the people I know people in the real world are nothing like this.

It scares me sometimes

[breezie]

Conway seems to be doing a good job so far; makes me wonder how NeJame wasn't able to get C&G under control, yet Conway has. What changed?

IMO the behavior of the Anthonys from here on out will either "make or break" the public's perception of them. Let's all pray they do the right thing. They can still love Casey and stand by her but the higher purpose is justice for Caylee.

He was hired as Caylee's body was found. Big change.

[anyonesguess]

Wow so if she had been honest she wouldnt had suffered?


Who said that March? Not I, so do not type for me at all.

She could have stopped her coverups and lies for CASEY long ago. I have posted many times their lives will never be the same if you want to go back and look. I cannot even imagine. But CINDY could have stopped the fiction long ago so that she could start the healing process and accept her daughter is the murderer of her grandchild, and then decide how to deal with that, cause she NOW has to.

Again, DO NOT "***" "U" "ME" you know what I have said in the past about Cindy Anthony.

[shadowdiana]

It scares me sometimes


As it should :unsure:

[Not staying]

Well maybe it is good you are going back to not posting. Your statments make no sense. All I see you posting is gullible naive thoughts.
Casey has NOT been in Jail for the entire past 6 months, maybe 3 TOTAL if that.

Cindy Anthony has KNOWN that Caylee was gone for a LONG time. She started her lies, and coverups when she washed those pants found in the car and deliberately gave the wrong hairbrush to LE when they asked for Caylees.

Have fun lurking and drinking the Anthony Kool-Aid.

Ok I'll go back to gullible better than pure specualtion and no real facts to back it up. Wonder what your life is like. Have seen nothing informative from you. It's Chrismas and I thank the people on here that have kept me informed over the years. Sweetly is one of them, and a few others. I just can't see what has triggered what I see here. I have nothing informative, just think Cindy needs support, and I would too.

[starling]

This is my last post before I go back to lurking but I'm sick of the Anthony's saying there was no Amber Alert. FGS Casey had a 31 day start. I'm sure all of us have at least lost a pet and put up posters. Casey was posting on a pole during her investigation. Cindy's 911 call where Casey says why do they want to talk to me? First call from jail "give me Tony's number. Calling you is a waste, huge waste. "She close, I can feel it". (paraphrasing) Going to Jose's office with her notebook that clearly says "media coverage wearing the huge white sunglasses that she bought with Amy's check". I feel sick and am going back to lurking. http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/Binder.jpg:cursing:

ITA!
Don't be a stranger!

[MrsHudson]

snipped.........
That said, I still think they deserve a PRIVATE funeral service to mourn their granddaughter. As sick as I think they all are, I still believe they loved that little girl. This is not something that should be televised. This whole debacle has been a circus, and Caylee deserves so much more than that.
R.I.P little one

Well said. :thumbup:

[bchand]

IA. IMO, a good spokeman thus far except that little part about ALL of Caylee's playmates. Didn't Casey message her brother Lee about few friends of Caylee's age? Casey has a reputation of being untruthful so BC gets a pass - awaiting more observations.
jmo

I'm with you. If he continues to just mouth whatever they say, it would change my opinion of him too. Just so far, so good.

[GentleBreeze]

Well, where you see praise of their behavior, the embarrassing fact is they cleared an area and thats where the body ended up being, so either they didn't look very hard for the body, or someone put the body there after that date, and it has nothing to do with a crystal ball, its called logic.

This is only a diversionary tactic. It was used for months when Laci and Conner weren't found when LE began searching that same bay just three days after they went missing. Then when they were found four months later the defense tried the same unsuccessful ploy as the defense will do lamely in this case. It will not work here just like it did not work in that case.

Logic is the key, on that I agree. No one kidnapped this child. For what? No ransom note, no calls or demands? Kidnap to kill Caylee? Why? And just happen to bring her back and place her where Casey was known to hang out and do this with the entire USA searching for Caylee? Ludicrous. Imo all of the forensic scientists that were at the scene of discovery will place Caylee there when her so called mother dumped her like yesterday's trash and went onto party.

The one that will harm this case more than anyone is Casey Anthony, herself. She will seal her fate. Her lies are immortalized.

imoo

[anyonesguess]

Ok I'll go back to gullible better than pure specualtion and no real facts to back it up. Wonder what your life is like. Have seen nothing informative from you. It's Chrismas and I thank the people on here that have kept me informed over the years. Sweetly is one of them, and a few others. I just can't see what has triggered what I see here. I have nothing informative, just think Cindy needs support, and I would too.


Wow your 11 posts really tell me so much. ROFLMAO!!!

Nothing was "TRIGGERED" here at all. BTW, my life is grand with wonderful children and the BEST grandchildren. You are just reading opinions and yeah some you might not like and they might stink to you. Guess what? You still have to deal with it, that EVERYONE doesn't have to agree with you. I know I don't, and I do not. Place me on ignore please so you do not subject yourself to min uninformative posts! :)

Go back to lurking as you have stated now 3 times

[cajunmoon]

Although the Anthonys behaved horribly, they are suffering, and IMO nobody should add to that suffering. I believe that they obstructed justice as well. They or one of them may even be an accessory after the fact. They IMO have hindered this prosecution, vut hy kick them when they're down/? It's barbaric.

My beliefs are based on all of the news shows, evidence, and watching their behavior. However, they still should be given space to mourn and personally, I don't think anyone hates them. I certainly don't.

[breezie]

I've come to accept that there are certain people whose lives revolve around a message board that don't have the first clue in how they'd deal with something as horrendous as has transpired over the past six months. Thank God I haven't lost my faith in humanity over the vitriolic posts I've read here because so many other people (both virtual and real) have been supportive of what can only be described as Cindy and George's family nightmare.

sanctimonious and judgmental much?

[MrsHudson]

Perhaps G and C initially wanted to believe Casey .. as part of their denial. Then they found themselves basically trapped in that decision with all the media and such. It must have been HARD to see what was unfolding before their (and the worlds eyes) and know that is YOUR daughter the world is talking about.

You would HAVE to take it personally, which would only increase the layers (upon layers) of denial.

I, too, am :w00t: at how they've approached this with the media.
I only hope that they had a little chat and decided they'd step off that nightmare trainride with their daughter once the body was found.

I'd like to see them make one last visit to Casey ...
however,
it MAY be seeing her during her trial when they could sit in the Prosecutions half of the court room.

Little chat? Their lawyer is trying to get them immunity. I don't think they have it yet either. They blew it big time.

[brodysho]

I never noticed that binder that casey was carrying around that said 'media coverage'. Wonder what that was all about.
I don't really expect an answer. The P.M people mostly fight, rather than exchange ideas/disagreements in an adult manner. I doubt most of those people talk to others like that in real life. :closedeyes:

Anywho, gonna go watch that body farm video (I think I seen it a few months ago, but it is quite fascinating)

[cloe23]

I don't think they'd have a choice if she decides to do that, but there is NO ONE around her who is encouraging her to plead guilty. They all want the show to go on IMO.

K, TY. I was thinking that the defence team will provide lots of false hope so Casey will be in denial once the trial rolls around. Casey is just a stepping stone for these experts. JMO
I am preparing myself for Casey swinging into the courtroom each day
w/o emotion, don't forget that Casey wants to assist in her defence, per Jose B.

[anyonesguess]

Although the Anthonys behaved horribly, they are suffering, and IMO nobody should add to that suffering. I believe that they obstructed justice as well. They or one of them may even be an accessory after the fact. They IMO have hindered this prosecution, vut hy kick them when they're down/? It's barbaric.

My beliefs are based on all of the news shows, evidence, and watching their behavior. However, they still should be given space to mourn and personally, I don't think anyone hates them. I certainly don't.

Exactly and well said cajunmoon!!

[shadowdiana]

Although the Anthonys behaved horribly, they are suffering, and IMO nobody should add to that suffering. I believe that they obstructed justice as well. They or one of them may even be an accessory after the fact. They IMO have hindered this prosecution, vut hy kick them when they're down/? It's barbaric.

My beliefs are based on all of the news shows, evidence, and watching their behavior. However, they still should be given space to mourn and personally, I don't think anyone hates them. I certainly don't.


Thank you, Cajun. Whether we believe guilty or no, C and G are mourning grandparents right now.
We can dissect them later....if need be.

[anyonesguess]

I never noticed that binder that casey was carrying around that said 'media coverage'. Wonder what that was all about.
I don't really expect an answer. The P.M people mostly fight, rather than exchange ideas/disagreements in an adult manner. I doubt most of those people talk to others like that in real life. :closedeyes:

Anywho, gonna go watch that body farm video (I think I seen it a few months ago, but it is quite fascinating)

Brody, When I first saw it, the first thing I thought of was that Casey was making paper clippings and keeping them. She made a statement once when Media was outside her home and said something like I guess I am famous or something like that.

[Neffy]

K, TY. I was thinking that the defence team will provide lots of false hope so Casey will be in denial once the trial rolls around. Casey is just a stepping stone for these experts. JMO
I am preparing myself for Casey swinging into the courtroom each day
w/o emotion, don't forget that Casey wants to assist in her defence, per Jose B.


I want to know how the experts are going to pull out ZANNY! Unless they can they are pretty much useless.

[bchand]

ITA with your post. LE has a lot to handle and IM they are doing a good job considering that they are understaffed overworked and now being maligned and villified by a few who have issues with them.

They are investigating these three instances of being called, and they will react accordingly. I just can't imagine people not realizing just how big and how chaotic a case like this one can be.


Very true and from keeping up with the local Orlando media during this case, they have a LOT of crime there. There are other cases besides this one.

[brodysho]

Brody, When I first saw it, the first thing I thought of was that Casey was making paper clippings and keeping them. She made a statement once when Media was outside her home and said something like I guess I am famous or something like that.

Doesn't surprise me. That's why I don't think she minds any of this one bit... whether she is in prison or not. She's now infamous.
I did notice that she was holding the binder in an obvious way to show the letters.
Sorta like when celebs (which I don't consider her one) know the paparazzi are around and hold books and such outwardly to show the world.

[rosieposett]

I just hope the State can prove it was murder, I sure hope her hair holds some clues, I would hate to see her be able to live outside of a prison and possibly have more children, it would be horrible for Caylee. Casey is never going to admit the truth, and the situation involving the meter reader is weird, but I don't think he killed or had anything to do with Caylee, but it does raise reasonable doubt, I hate it, but it is what it is.

jmo
:rose:

I agree MalloryCat. I would not want Casey to go free either. I too hope the state can prove it was murder, which I believe it was. The MR, I see him as the one who brought Caylee home and I wish him well.

[Oregongal]

================================

I have a strong feeling that there will not be a trial. I feel in my gut that Casey will confess. jmo

I really would for your feeling to be true dixie. Only to save the expense to the state and all the emotions of all who have been involved, LE, the SA, the ME and of course all of the world who fell in love with Caylee and have in some way or another been respecting her, trying to keep her in the forefront and of course praying for her.
It it comes to a trial, there are going to be things we probably never have been expecting and to have that splash all over us thru the media, thru the TH's and commentators seems so distasteful to me for Caylee. Yes, my curiousity wants to know everything that would come out in the trial and it maybe the best thing that a trial happen, I'm just torn.
As for Casey confessing. I will eat a branch of my fake Christmas tree if that does happen. I see her so much like Diane Downs (and many others) that will want that trial to continue to proclaim her innocence.
She thinks she is smarter and cuter and better than everyone else. I believe she will be convicted and again like DD will continue to proclaim that innocence and claiming someone else did it, LE framed her....whatever til the end of her life.
I just don't see a confession coming out of her lying lips.

[bchand]

Brody, When I first saw it, the first thing I thought of was that Casey was making paper clippings and keeping them. She made a statement once when Media was outside her home and said something like I guess I am famous or something like that.


and I recall in one of her jail house vists with her parents so said "I never wanted all this media attention" honestly.

::picturing her strut - boom ba ba boom ba ba boom:::: She's loving it.

[march27]

lol. Don't be scared of us. Be scared of Casey. And those who are trying to free her to walk out among us.

Yeah her "dream team " scares me even more. Maybe she'll spare her family even more agony and confess so they can pick up the pieces of their lives but I doubt it.

[anyonesguess]

and I recall in one of her jail house vists with her parents so said "I never wanted all this media attention" honestly.

::picturing her strut - boom ba ba boom ba ba boom:::: She's loving it.


Agree bchand, and the audacity to wear those fearless fly sunglasses she wore with stolen money from her friend.

[cajunmoon]

Well, really, if you ask a few people on here, Casey was raised by a monster, that being Cindy. Cindy is so bad and mean and neglectful, lazy, dirty, etc that Casey is the way she is, a horrible person because her mother raised her, so that means its Cindys fault Casey killed her baby, because more than likely she did. So do you agree with all that, that Cindy made Casey murderous and it is ultimetly Cindys fault?

Because it seems some who agree with that could sit on a jury and let her walk because of that absurd idea, do you think thats justice for Caylee?
Wrong.

Nobody made Casey do anything. There are many people who have been raised by much worse people. There are many people who have been horrificly abused both psycologically and physically, but they haven't murdered their own children. They are out there.

Cindy may be a control freak, but IMO she did not Make casey kill Caylee.

[VII]

Little chat? Their lawyer is trying to get them immunity. I don't think they have it yet either. They blew it big time.


lemme see if I can simplify more ...
THEY = G and C
who were waiting for a body = G and C
THY = G and C
now have a body
and maybe
the denial became a reality at that point.

Some would go through hell and high water for their children.
Yes, Casey was their child and they certainly have.
I'd like to say I wouldn't put myself at risk, legally, if one of my kiddo's were ever as cold and heartless as Casey ...
but I just don't know. Especially, if I could NOT allow myself to believe that my DAUGHTER killed my GRANDDAUGHTER.
WHO would "want" to believe that?

Yes, I'm SURE they made decisions and statements that got their bo-hiney's in a crack...
just sayin'

maybe

[anyonesguess]

Well, really, if you ask a few people on here, Casey was raised by a monster, that being Cindy. Cindy is so bad and mean and neglectful, lazy, dirty, etc that Casey is the way she is, a horrible person because her mother raised her, so that means its Cindys fault Casey killed her baby, because more than likely she did. So do you agree with all that, that Cindy made Casey murderous and it is ultimetly Cindys fault?

Because it seems some who agree with that could sit on a jury and let her walk because of that absurd idea, do you think thats justice for Caylee?


Mallory I do not know what board you have been reading, but please provide the proof that someone said Cindy was a Monday and was lazy and dirty? I know myself I have stated I think Cindy is a clean freak, and I know she worked hard. She had to so that she could support Casey's lies monetarily and George being out of work. She also provided Caylee with more than most children are provided with materially.

Again, please provide proof of your claims or stop exagerating please, because you are.

[VII]

snip....
w/o emotion, don't forget that Casey wants to assist in her defence, per Jose B.

I wonder if she is singing the same song now that a body has been found?

[anyonesguess]

If it makes you feel better to assume that Cindy put herself into this nightmare by hoping against all hope that Caylee was alive, that's your right. My opinion differs, and I hope you respect that.

I do respect that. Again, IMO IMO IMO Cindy has KNOWN for a long time that Caylee was dead. She was trying to cover for Casey so she would not lose her as well for a long time now.

I posted the other day and I DO BELIEVE IMO IMO IMO that if there was a DO OVER on the July call to the police knowing what she now knows, Cindy would have NEVER made that call.

[MrsHudson]

I agree they never believed the nanny story, but wanted to because the death of that little girl is a huge deal, its major, they loved her, they said things in anger and didn't want to hear people blame their daughter, she wanted proof, she wanted a body, she got what she asked for and who wants that news, thats horrid reality, and its the Anthonys reality and I think they realize the magnitude of the destruction Casey is capable of, do you think they were supposed to just accept Caylee was missing, and then go back to work the next day and just forget about it all?

If you don't do the right thing right away you pay a price. Cindy's own mother gave her the best advise of anyone. She said ...Be the nice person I know that you are. Go back to work and let the police handle it....

But no. She got involved up to her eyeballs trying to control every one and everything. She told lies and blamed innocent people. It was pointed out to her that her lies would harm the investigation....she would not listen. Yuri warned her and so did NeJame. Now she needs immunity from prosecution and she brought on herself.

[Adalena935]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_SiqND9bNA

Not for the weak at heart. Wake up people IMO

There have been documentaries about the body farm on tv over the years.

ETA: A & E, Discovery channel, HBO, National Geographic
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=body+farm+documentary&aq=f&oq=

Nature's going to have it's way with all of us. Their research helps investigators so much thankfully.

[Kara]

<snipped>
Some folks just want to be able to grieve. I can understand the Anthony's wanting a private service.
As usual...I am way behind, but perhaps a thread devoted to grieving would be appropriate as it is obvious the memorial service will not be a public affair.

[VII]

snip ... No one has forced the Anthonys to do a darn thing.

What about Casey? Doesn't SHE play a role in this mess?

[aubrey04]

I want to know how the experts are going to pull out ZANNY! Unless they can they are pretty much useless.

How can they possibly try to push the Zanny kidnapping story? They will look like fools. No jury is going to buy that bs. There is too much evidence proving she did not exist. They will have to find another tactic.

It is going to be an interesting trial to watch..(assuming it is televised). OJ, Spector, Entwistle, Melanie McGuire won't even compare.

jmo