Saturday - Dec 20/08 Morning Part 2

[KKKKKKatie]

Here you go....

[MrsHudson]

CARRY OVER: That is what is wrong with society ....they want to excuse everybody for bad behavior for one reason or another.
That is exactly why Casey is the way she is....she has never had to accept responsibility for her actions.
They (her actions) have either been covered up and lied about so often therefore she continues to behave badly.
Cindy and George have lied and behaved terribly and now they should be forgiven ....I don't think so...they need to publically apologize to all those who have done nothing but try to help them.
They themselves have allienated most everyone that has been following this case.
They have known from the beginning that Caylee is dead and I don't for a minute think they believed any of the crap Casyee has been dishing out.

Exactly. And think about this. What if they had done the right thing. That is stay out of it and let LE investigate, told the truth no matter how painful, turned over the proper evidence, and turned the other cheek when they were criticized rather than running around their front yard cursing.

And if having done the right thing it came about that Casey went to jail for life who would criticize them? Who would say they are bad people, they should have lied and obstructed the investigation to save their daughter. Nobody would have said that. Nobody thinks it's wrong to let your kids suffer the consequences of their own actions. Everyone thinks its right. And it is still right if that person is your daughter who killed your grandaughter. In fact it is ever MORE right under those circumstances.

[5boxersmom]

I am wondering if it wasn't George and Cindy that signed a 2 million dollar deal with Lifetime but Baez and Casey.:w00t:


http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

[Regina.Lampert]

I am wondering if it wasn't George and Cindy that signed a 2 million dollar deal with Lifetime but Baez and Casey.:w00t:


http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.htmlHi Boxer, that is an old article from September and IIRC, many people emailed Lifetime and threatened a boycott if they paid one dime for a story.

[happy2bme]

I could not agree more, Mrs Hudson.

Parenting is not enabling, covering up, etc.

Its making them responsible for their actions, and my god, she murdered an innocent child...


I haven't been able to be here much since Thanksgiving...so be patient guys..:smile: Does anyone know if the Anthony's have been to visit Casey since Caylee's remains were found?

[WillowInFlight]

I am wondering if it wasn't George and Cindy that signed a 2 million dollar deal with Lifetime but Baez and Casey.:w00t:


http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

Life time is denying any of it. I found this part interesting. Poor Lenny
"Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla told Eyewitness News on Wednesday that Baez made him sign away any rights on movie or book deals, that Baez is banking on the entertainment industry and so is his mysterious public relations man".

[WillowInFlight]

I haven't been able to be here much since Thanksgiving...so be patient guys..:smile: Does anyone know if the Anthony's have been to visit Casey since Caylee's remains were found?

They haven't visited her since she was rearrested. I can't believe they weren't by her side when she got the news.

[cloe23]

TY for new thread.
Copied from other thread......


[QUOTE=5boxersmom;12564144]http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

Sources extremely close to the family told Eyewitness News that the Anthonys have signed a $2 million movie deal with the Lifetime Movie Network.
***********Snipped by error.......

I think it sounds like the experts who were pro bono in the beginning and now they have changed to being paid through a silent partner?
Per Dr. Lee:tonguewag:

This is only my take on it..
which one is sicker then the other?
'the movie deal' vs 'the sudden changing of minds of the experts'
(if true)???

With all the experts in the dream team and their testing/testifying, hotel expenses, food blah blah blah......... imo 2mil is not nearly enough, the experts will drain the A's dry and the A's will get notta. cept the thought that they tried to support their daughter, who allegedly killed their grandchild that they loved dearly.
(whatever peace, comfort or sanity that this may bring them.)Anthony's = Victims again. jmo.

[Brattnt]

I haven't been able to be here much since Thanksgiving...so be patient guys..:smile: Does anyone know if the Anthony's have been to visit Casey since Caylee's remains were found?

No they havent Happy...:seeya:

[cathiesblogs]

You know I wonder ....Why is it that...hummm other cases such as "Susan Smith"..whom did murder her kids..lied but then did confess and got a life sentence..other mothers who murdered their kids then confessed the murder still got life sentences after their revealing the truth...then here comes Casey Anthony...the worse of them all..she confesses to having no mental problems whatsoever !!...lies totally about having any knowledge of Caylee's death.in fact, all I seen is her having a good time while that child layed dead in the trunk of her car!..then casey gets out of jail..stutting around..chewing gum..laughing ..OH GOD !!!!.......then the evidence proves that little Caylee's "deceased" little body was in the trunk as well as in the back yard at her parents house..she had the most incriminating things posted on her PC..but what...she might not even get the life sentence ???....this woman should have the death sentence hanging over her ....RIGHT NOW !!!!....gosh..this is a screwed up system if Casey ever in her "alive" body gets out of jail !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[5boxersmom]

Hi Boxer, that is an old article from September and IIRC, many people emailed Lifetime and threatened a boycott if they paid one dime for a story.

Yep I remember but wonder how it was worded? If they ask Lifetime if they signed a deal with the Anthony's they could say no and be telling the truth if it was signed with Baez.

imo

[stef]

I am wondering if it wasn't George and Cindy that signed a 2 million dollar deal with Lifetime but Baez and Casey.:w00t:


http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

2 million sounds more like a book deal to me, with movie rights. I bet there are tons of pictures that they have set aside of an exclusive book. It sure is curious how the A's are paying bills, mortage, 2 cars, insurance, and so on. Six months of not working would leave most people out on the street.

I just don't know how long that can continue with the ZG story, it just has no legs, there is no evidence, not one call, nothing, that story has no legs.

Poor Caylee, she was so close to home, it breaks my heart.

[kitty1182]

They haven't visited her since she was rearrested. I can't believe they weren't by her side when she got the news.

I would not have been there with her either, Casey already knew she was dead and probally just bones....If they had been there, they might have strangled her....I would have!

[happy2bme]

I'm in agreement with all 3 of you, and I really don't appreciate being hassled by pro-Anthony supporters because I'm not showing what they feel is a proper amount of concern for C&G. If the Anthonys are reading here, as someone suggested, then they are beyond help, imo. No family in their situation should be reading message boards.

I feel tremendous compassion for the A's in the loss of their granddaughter. That doesn't mean I will overlook their behavior the past 6 months, nor will I condone future behavior if it appears similar to what we've already seen. And it doesn't mean I won't discuss what could have possibly happened in that family over the years that ended so horribly for a 2 year-old.

My opinions only, as always.

Well said...I feel the same way.:thumbup:

[SavannahStar]

They haven't visited her since she was rearrested. I can't believe they weren't by her side when she got the news.

Maybe now they hate her like the general public does? Wouldn't that make everyone so happy? :mad:

[5boxersmom]

Life time is denying any of it. I found this part interesting. Poor Lenny
"Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla told Eyewitness News on Wednesday that Baez made him sign away any rights on movie or book deals, that Baez is banking on the entertainment industry and so is his mysterious public relations man".

Yes that is interesting. Baez seems to be covering all the angles from the book and movie deals.

hmmm.

[happy2bme]

They haven't visited her since she was rearrested. I can't believe they weren't by her side when she got the news.


I wonder what they are thinking of Casey now?

[kitty1182]

It is a comfort to think Heaven is so beautiful and Caylee is singing!

I pray the GP's find some comfort at this time..I just know their hearts are crushed......

[WillowInFlight]

That just amazes me, too, Willow. We keep hearing that it's because the visits are videotaped. I say who cares, at a time like this?

Exactly, I just don't understand it.

[WillowInFlight]

Maybe now they hate her like the general public does? Wouldn't that make everyone so happy? :mad:

Can you ever truly hate your own child?

[happy2bme]

Exactly, I just don't understand it.



Did they ever tell what LE took from the Anthony's home when the remains were found?

[kitty1182]

I wonder what they are thinking of Casey now?

They will always love her..My son could never do anything to make me not love him..I would be disappointed, hurt and disgusted with him, but I would always love him and I'm sure they still love their daughter...It's probally very hard to face her after all this, at least for now..

[WillowInFlight]

I would not have been there with her either, Casey already knew she was dead and probally just bones....If they had been there, they might have strangled her....I would have!

But Kitty Casey is still maintaining she is innocent, Do you really think Cindy and George are now looking at her as a murderer?

[Okito]

Maybe Caylee's father will come forth if the $2M dollar deal is really true.


when the anthonys conducted that teeth pulling interview on LKL, cindy insisted that caylee's dad was DEAD!! she said he had died prior to caylee's birth.......anyone?

even if that were true, he still might have had parents or siblings. who knows who the dad really is?

[SavannahStar]

Can you ever truly hate your own child?


No, you can't. And that's my point. Seems like some WANT them to.

[stef]

Maybe Caylee's father will come forth if the $2M dollar deal is really true.

I have always believed he doesn't exist. She worked at Universal at the time, a one night stand with a guy/tourist not giving casey his real name, means no father. The girl didn't like working, if there was a guy around to get money from for child support, I think she would have gone after the bucks.

[LindaNJ1216]

That just amazes me, too, Willow. We keep hearing that it's because the visits are videotaped. I say who cares, at a time like this?

That was Casey's choice, not George & Cindy's

[happy2bme]

Can you ever truly hate your own child?


I couldn't "hate" but I sure could dislike them if they had told all the lies Casey has and then find out my innocent 2 year old Grandchild was dead. I would have to confront her.

[WillowInFlight]

No, you can't. And that's my point. Seems like some WANT them to.

I think they will go through many phases as far as how they feel, but I believe in time they will learn to forgive her.

[kitty1182]

But Kitty Casey is still maintaining she is innocent, Do you really think Cindy and George are now looking at her as a murderer?

I think they have been knowing for awhile that if Caylee was found dead, Casey was the one who did it...They were just hoping it wasn't true, but now they know it is...

[WillowInFlight]

I couldn't "hate" but I sure could dislike them if they had told all the lies Casey has and then find out my innocent 2 year old Grandchild was dead. I would have to confront her.

You know I am wondering if they are afraid of what they might hear.

[spiritwolf46]

I am wondering if it wasn't George and Cindy that signed a 2 million dollar deal with Lifetime but Baez and Casey.:w00t:


http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html


Well, there ya go! I know that it is not proven as FACT, but it would not surprise me ONE bit! I want to barf !

[annalyzer]

I couldn't "hate" but I sure could dislike them if they had told all the lies Casey has and then find out my innocent 2 year old Grandchild was dead. I would have to confront her.

I couldn't hate but I could disown.

[SavannahStar]

I think they have been knowing for awhile that if Caylee was found dead, Casey was the one who did it...They were just hoping it wasn't true, but now they know it is...

Well stated. ITA.

[kitty1182]

I think they will go through many phases as far as how they feel, but I believe in time they will learn to forgive her.

I think one phase they will go thru too, is the angry they will have for a while..

[stef]

Did anyone read the enquirer(sp?) article with the Kiomarie interview?
Did it have a location/map of the spot they hung out at by the school?

[bama__angel]

I think it's horrible that they don't go to see her. I don't understand how they can defend her so vehemently, but not visit her. Why would they care if their expressions of love and support for her are on videotape? I would think they would want that made public, given their position.

It makes no sense, given that the A's continue to state publicly that they support their daughter.



Maybe Casey doesnt want to see George and Cindy.

[MalloryCat]

Maybe Caylee's father will come forth if the $2M dollar deal is really true.

If it takes money to lure him out, I guess he is just an opportunist, at least he wouldn't have to worry about paying child support I suppose.

[spiritwolf46]

No, you can't. And that's my point. Seems like some WANT them to.


I, for one, would NEVER WANT the Anthony's to HATE Casey, for I believe that she is the way she is BEACUSE of them. I would like, however; for them to make her accountable for what SHE had done!

[happy2bme]

You know I am wondering if they are afraid of what they might hear.

Do you mean more of Casey's lies or maybe of her finally telling them the truth?

IMO- nothing could be more worse than what they have seen or heard about her and from her in the last 6 months.

[WillowInFlight]

I think they have been knowing for awhile that if Caylee was found dead, Casey was the one who did it...They were just hoping it wasn't true, but now they know it is...

I just can't even imagine the thoughts they must be having and guilt they must be feeling.

[Cury-us Coyote]

DNA Evidence May be Released Today
(FWIW note authorship & affiliations)
http://bbn.frn.com/fis/MyFlaNews/storypage.asp?site=mfln2-ip&storyID=7133

[happy2bme]

Maybe Casey doesnt want to see George and Cindy.


I believe you might be right...she probally can't face them.

[WillowInFlight]

Do you mean more of Casey's lies or maybe of her finally telling them the truth?

IMO- nothing could be more worse than what they have seen or heard about her and from her in the last 6 months.

Well both, if they believe in their guts she killed her, then the continued lies would kill them, if she told the truth, that would kill them too.

[cloe23]

I think one phase they will go thru too, is the angry they will have for a while..

ITA Wait until the trial when the defence very well will stand up there and blame GandC for this entire thing. But who knows what the dream team will dream up?

[WillowInFlight]

I think it's horrible that they don't go to see her. I don't understand how they can defend her so vehemently, but not visit her. Why would they care if their expressions of love and support for her are on videotape? I would think they would want that made public, given their position.

It makes no sense, given that the A's continue to state publicly that they support their daughter.

That is what I have been trying to say. Thank You.

[Okito]

I think they have been knowing for awhile that if Caylee was found dead, Casey was the one who did it...They were just hoping it wasn't true, but now they know it is...

no way they think she did it....zanny the nanny is the 'REAL' killer or some of the kidnappers who cindy told LKL viewers were threatening them.........BWAHHAHHHAAAAAAAAAA!!


never in a million years will the anthonys believe casey killed caylee, accidently or otherwise. mark my words.

[spiritwolf46]

ITA for once in their lives stop covering..


See, that is where I am having such a problem. They are known liars themselves and children learn what they are around, and do what they know. I wish so bad that Casey would have been held accountable YEARS ago and maybe, just maybe, that little baby would still be alive. I wish that more than anyone knows. :(

[happy2bme]

Well both, if they believe in their guts she killed her, then the continued lies would kill them, if she told the truth, that would kill them too.


Casey truly has destroyed this family. I hope they seek some sort of counseling when they are ready so they may have some sort of life.:sad:

[kelleyb227]

Hi everyone. I am devastated by this and even while I hold Casey in complete disdain, I am extremely saddened for C&G at this moment. The realization must feel like a freight train for them. I am praying for that family.

With that being said, I must say I don't like the statement on the find Caylee website. I feel (in my opinion) that they are still either in denial or protecting Casey with the "let Caylee serve as an angel for other missing children and their families" statement. Caylee was murdered not truly missing. Anyone else get that vibe or just me looking WAY too deeply into the message.

[WillowInFlight]

Did they ever tell what LE took from the Anthony's home when the remains were found?

They took a vacuum, pesticide, I think some pool supplies, a laptop and I believe NG producer also said some bedding and a pillow.

[cloe23]

I think it's horrible that they don't go to see her. I don't understand how they can defend her so vehemently, but not visit her. Why would they care if their expressions of love and support for her are on videotape? I would think they would want that made public, given their position.

It makes no sense, given that the A's continue to state publicly that they support their daughter.



IIRC it is Casey who doesn't want ANY visitors. Except from the defence. She even refused to see the pastor when it was announced that the remains were that of Caylee.

[happy2bme]

no way they think she did it....zanny the nanny is the 'REAL' killer or some of the kidnappers who cindy told LKL viewers were threatening them.........BWAHHAHHHAAAAAAAAAA!!


never in a million years will the anthonys believe casey killed caylee, accidently or otherwise. mark my words.


I think deep down they know the truth....now whether they can accept it...well I don't know.jmo

[Cury-us Coyote]

IIRC, FNC just reported LE left the discovery site scene and posted no trespassing signs.
jmo

[cajunmoon]

I have read on several message boards that the Anthonys may be reading them. That would include here. I have also read on several boards harsh criticism of them if they are reading message boards.
Personally, who is to judge what anybody does when they are in pain? I certainly wouldn't judge them for that.

I know most would say that they read to see what is being said and attack anybody they disagree with. This would be typical of their past behavior, but I think they might take some comfort in knowing how many people loved Caylee. Even people who seem to hate them.

Think about why we are all here. Maybe not all, but most of us are here because we care about Caylee.

[gaelicpeas]

2 million sounds more like a book deal to me, with movie rights. I bet there are tons of pictures that they have set aside of an exclusive book. It sure is curious how the A's are paying bills, mortage, 2 cars, insurance, and so on. Six months of not working would leave most people out on the street.

(respecfully snipped)

Interesting. Remember when Jesse said something about all those pictures being deleted from Casey's myspace?

[True2Blues]

Can you ever truly hate your own child?


I don't think anyone expects them to hate Casey. I would have supported them completely if they had said they loved Casey and then cooperated with LE because they wanted the Truth and were putting Caylee first.

It's their choice to try to obstruct justice, all of the name calling they've done, trying to keep people from helping Tim Miller, trying to make money off of Caylee, that lost them my sympathy. They did just what Casey did, they threw Caylee away and pursued the TV cameras and lied to protect Casey at all costs. It was just too much for me. The love a Grandparent should have for their Grandchild, should have been stronger than the love of publicity, money and the wish to keep LE from from investigating her disappearance.

[happy2bme]

I hope they are not reading message boards.


That goes for me as well.

Surely reading a message board would be the least of their concerns at this point.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Did anyone read the enquirer(sp?) article with the Kiomarie interview?
Did it have a location/map of the spot they hung out at by the school?

IIRC, described as 50yds from our private place in the SAME woods also referred to as the zone.
jmo

[5boxersmom]

Does anyone remember when Casey was out on bond saying she had pictures of Caylee that she was not releasing because they were near and dear to her heart? I remember that somewhere.

[spiritwolf46]

I don't think anyone expects them to hate Casey. I would have supported them completely if they had said they loved Casey and then cooperated with LE because they wanted the Truth and were putting Caylee first.

It's their choice to try to obstruct justice, all of the name calling they've done, trying to keep people from helping Tim Miller, trying to make money off of Caylee, that lost them my sympathy. They did just what Casey did, they threw Caylee away and pursued the TV cameras and lied to protect Casey at all costs. It was just too much for me. The love a Grandparent should have for their Grandchild, should have been stronger than the love of publicity, money and the wish to keep LE from from investigating her disappearance.

Good Post and ITA. I know that some on here have done a 180 and now have sympathy for the Grandparents. That is fine and I wish that I could, but they were the ones, along with their murderer daughter that did everything they could to keep this little baby from NOT being found and I will NEVER forgive them for that along with other things.

I do hope that reality will someday seep in to their hard heads and the TRUE healing will begin. Until then, I won't sympathize with them for one moment for all they have NOT done for the true vicitm in this case that was their own blood and their Grand baby! That to me, is just plain horrible!

ETA: I give you all so much credit for being able to sympathize with the Anthony's. I just cannot do it at this time.

[cajunmoon]

IIRC, FNC just reported LE left the discovery site scene and posted no trespassing signs.
jmo

I wonder how they expect to enforce that unless they are leaving ssecurity patrols.

Is it taped off?

[PuffDragon]

CARRY OVER:

<snipped for space>
Nobody thinks it's wrong to let your kids suffer the consequences of their own actions. Everyone thinks its right. And it is still right if that person is your daughter who killed your grandaughter. In fact it is ever MORE right under those circumstances.

Beautifully said!

[stef]

Interesting. Remember when Jesse said something about all those pictures being deleted from Casey's myspace?

The whole media-money thing makes me ill, all of this money for interviews, defense media blitzs is just awful. I am sure there are many family secrets that will creep out in trial for a juicy book.

[True2Blues]

Hi everyone. I am devastated by this and even while I hold Casey in complete disdain, I am extremely saddened for C&G at this moment. The realization must feel like a freight train for them. I am praying for that family.

With that being said, I must say I don't like the statement on the find Caylee website. I feel (in my opinion) that they are still either in denial or protecting Casey with the "let Caylee serve as an angel for other missing children and their families" statement. Caylee was murdered not truly missing. Anyone else get that vibe or just me looking WAY too deeply into the message.


They're still angling to become spokespersons for some Missing Children's organization. At least that's what it sounds like to me. They want to stay in front of the cameras, and at this point, they may even be willing to toss Casey aside to do it. Like they tossed Caylee aside for her. I didn't find anything personal and genuine in that statement at all.

[trich]

I wonder what they are thinking of Casey now?


They are probably thinking what they have known all along.
Casey killed Caylee.IMO

[cajunmoon]

That goes for me as well.

Surely reading a message board would be the least of their concerns at this point.

People react differently to situations.
I remember going to one of my favorite boards after the loss of my Grandmother and I was really close to her. Of course her death nor her life was controversial. In this case, I am almost certain they are so stressed that a change, any change from what they are looking at up close and personal in that house has to be a relief even if it is filled with our comments.

Unimaginable.

[Regina.Lampert]

You know I am wondering if they are afraid of what they might hear.

Will, I think you nailed it. They now know that she did it and the next step is to find out the gory details, also known as the truth which they stated they want to work with LE to learn.

They must be in agony, terrified about it. imo.

[bama__angel]

Good Post and ITA. I know that some on here have done a 180 and now have sympathy for the Grandparents. That is fine and I wsh that I could, but they were the ones, along with their murderer daughter that did everything they could to keep this little baby from NOT being found and I will NEVER forgive them for that along with other things.

I do hope that reality will someday seep in to their hard heads and the TRUE healing will begin. Until then, I won't sympathize with them for one moment for all they have NOT donw for the true vicitm in this case that was their own blood and their Grand baby! That to me, is just plain horrible!


Thank goodness that it isnt up to you or me to grant forgiveness to George and Cindy ultimately...............

And if George or Cindy didnt want Caylee found.........it might be because then there is no hope at all......like now..... no hope......You want them to face reality.......I cant imagine a bigger dose of reality, can you?

[spiritwolf46]

They are probably thinking what they have known all along.
Casey killed Caylee.IMO

I wonder if they will ever ask her a HARD question. Something like "WHY"?????

[kitty1182]

Will, I think you nailed it. They now know that she did it and the next step is to find out the gory details, also known as the truth which they stated they want to work with LE to learn.

They must be in agony, terrified about it. imo.

You know they are.....

[?noanswer]

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=122459029

Has a statement from M. Bart. Page is being redesiged. Said services have not been planned. Gives a link to check for updates. JMO

[cathiesblogs]

The reason that George and Cindy don't go visit Casey in jail is probally because of the advice of Casey's lawyer...everything is recorded..live...gosh..the other visits ole Casey laughed and spoke of me me me !...Baez knows that Casey wasn't so good an actress !...but there is one thing that I do wonder ....Did Baez seem so "CLOSE" to his other clients??.....really strange how he acts with Casey..really seems much closer then a regular lawyer client relationship ! ...

[spiritwolf46]

Thank goodness that it isnt up to you or me to grant forgiveness to George and Cindy ultimately...............

And if George or Cindy didnt want Caylee found.........it might be because then there is no hope at all......like now..... no hope......You want them to face reality.......I cant imagine a bigger dose of reality, can you?

Actually, when they first smelled DEATH in the car that their DAUGHTER was driving should have been the dose of reality and it seems as if it was, for a small minute. After that, they did all the nasty things to the media, LE, FBI and so on and anything that they could to hinder an investigation and of finding their granddaughter!

Any other questions?

[MrsHudson]

They're still angling to become spokespersons for some Missing Children's organization. At least that's what it sounds like to me. They want to stay in front of the cameras, and at this point, they may even be willing to toss Casey aside to do it. Like they tossed Caylee aside for her. I didn't find anything personal and genuine in that statement at all.

Yes they are. They love the camera and need jobs. I can't stand those people they are sick and self-serving as ever. They will abuse all the sympathy they get and figure out how to make hay with it .

[spiritwolf46]

Exaclty ITA "Children Learn What they LIVE" She learned well from what I seen, She got by with eveything all her life she thought she'd could comit murder and gte by with that too.

I SO agree with this. Ya know, I truly, honestly belive that deep down (I would say in her heart, but she lacks one) she DID think that she would get away with it. Says a lot about this creature, doesn't it?

[bama__angel]

Actually, when they first smelled DEATH in the car that their DAUGHTER was driving should have been the dose of reality and it seems as if it was, for a small minute. After that, they did all the nasty things to the media, LE, FBI and so on and anything that they could to hinder an investigation and of finding their granddaughter!

Any other questions?


No maam, none.

[cajunmoon]

Will, I think you nailed it. They now know that she did it and the next step is to find out the gory details, also known as the truth which they stated they want to work with LE to learn.

They must be in agony, terrified about it. imo.
the gory details. Just the photos that have been made pubilc without the actual human remains has to be enough to send them over the edge being that they know what some of those items are and their significance. I can't imagine having to hear the details of the condition of those remains and maybe(which I doubt) later the details of how she died from casey.

[LindaNJ1216]

I couldn't hate but I could disown.

I've searched my heart on this...my son could never do anything to make me stop loving him or to disown him.

I understand George and Cindy. Their granddaughter is dead, there is nothing they can do to change that and Casey is all they have left. I'm sure they can forgive her and I am sure they still love her. That doesn't mean the rest of us have to. Just back off a bit and try to have some compassion for George & Cindy. I can't even begin to imagine the horror their life has become. None of us can.

[WillowInFlight]

Good Post and ITA. I know that some on here have done a 180 and now have sympathy for the Grandparents. That is fine and I wish that I could, but they were the ones, along with their murderer daughter that did everything they could to keep this little baby from NOT being found and I will NEVER forgive them for that along with other things.

I do hope that reality will someday seep in to their hard heads and the TRUE healing will begin. Until then, I won't sympathize with them for one moment for all they have NOT done for the true vicitm in this case that was their own blood and their Grand baby! That to me, is just plain horrible!

ETA: I give you all so much credit for being able to sympathize with the Anthony's. I just cannot do it at this time.

Spirit, I haven't forgiven or forgotten the disrespect they have shown Caylee, I just can't kick them while they are down. It makes me think of my own little grand baby, and I know my heart would be broken if anything ever happened to him.
I'm sure in the not to distant future they will be doing something that will cause me to go off, but for these couple of days, I hurt for them.

[?noanswer]

I wonder how they expect to enforce that unless they are leaving ssecurity patrols.

Is it taped off?


I did not see any tape, just a lone "no trespassing" sign. There were 50/100 people standing around. Wonder if they ignored the sign when the media left. The area they were showing is almost barren. LE did a very thorough search. JMO

[Cury-us Coyote]

3:09 p.m.
Investigators tried to release the crime scene to Jose Baez and the rest of Casey Anthony's defense team, but they declined. The scene can now be accessed to the general public.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/12/minutetominute_update_in_remains_discovery_12_11.h tml

[spiritwolf46]

No maam, none.

Look, I am not trying to be nasty with you, truly I am not. I actually commend those who have sympathy for the Anthony's at this time. I wish so bad that I could, too. But I see it in such a different light. That's all.

I apologize for what how that post came out. I am just very upset with the Anthony's and their lack of help to find that little baby. I would have gone to the ends of this earth for my granddaughter, make no bones about it. I just do not understand why they have done what they have done and will not forget it, either.

[True2Blues]

Check out this picture of casey and jethro the way she's looking at him seems more then attorney client. Wish we could see his full face. Looks like he's got a grin on his face from the side

http://bbn.frn.com/fis/MyFlaNews/storypage.asp?site=mfln2-ip&storyID=7133

Why does he always have to have his hands on her?

[really3997]

Sorry to but in I drove fast there is something going on at the house..it is taped off with crime scene tape

[cathiesblogs]

someone was looking for Diane Dawns picture now..here it is..2008
http://www.annrules.com/Photos/DianeDowns2007.jpg

[Regina.Lampert]

They will never be able to do anything that makes you happy will they?

Aw come on now, why do we have to question another poster's opinion about the anthonys? We have all gone thru this case and I would like to think we have all bonded to a certain extent.

Let people express their views and if you disagree state your disagreement and the reason for it, but don't make a personal remark about the individual poster.

I respect everyone's opinion and can understand the reason's for them, when I don't I ask.

Coldwater's latest love note sent a chill thru me, so let's all get along now, okay?

[5boxersmom]

3:09 p.m.
Investigators tried to release the crime scene to Jose Baez and the rest of Casey Anthony's defense team, but they declined. The scene can now be accessed to the general public.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/12/minutetominute_update_in_remains_discovery_12_11.h tml

WHAT? After all of the complaining now they don't want it.
Drama Drama Drama.:glare:

imo

[summer4meplz]

I am wondering if it wasn't George and Cindy that signed a 2 million dollar deal with Lifetime but Baez and Casey.:w00t:


http://www.wftv.com/news/17550330/detail.html

two million sounds like a lot but when you consider taxes, legal fees, expert testimony....it maybe will barely cover her expenses to date...and I have a feeling it's going to be a long trial...

[spiritwolf46]

Spirit, I haven't forgiven or forgotten the disrespect they have shown Caylee, I just can't kick them while they are down. It makes me think of my own little grand baby, and I know my heart would be broken if anything ever happened to him.
I'm sure in the not to distant future they will be doing something that will cause me to go off, but for these couple of days, I hurt for them.


And again, I truly commend you for that. I really, really do. I wish so bad that I could be like that, but I can't. I feel to much in my heart that the Anthony's kicked Caylee to the curb all these months while trying to make their daughter look good. That little one needed them more than anything in this world and she could not count on them.

I am not kicking them when they are down, I am just not budging on the feelings that I have had for them all along.

:rose:

[True2Blues]

3:09 p.m.
Investigators tried to release the crime scene to Jose Baez and the rest of Casey Anthony's defense team, but they declined. The scene can now be accessed to the general public.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/12/minutetominute_update_in_remains_discovery_12_11.h tml

WHAT?! After all those motions and all that carrying on to the press, now they don't want to see it? :rolleyes:

[MrsHudson]

Well both, if they believe in their guts she killed her, then the continued lies would kill them, if she told the truth, that would kill them too.

They need to stay out of the public eye from now on. Just stay away from the cameras till trial time. We don't need to know how they are relating to Casey. If they should decide to help the cops and get tough with Casey we don't need to know that till trial time. Let's see if they can stay away from the cameras for several months. There is no reason for them to need to speak to the public again. Unless of course they just love that camera and the attention. We'll see.

[Regina.Lampert]

Sorry to but in I drove fast there is something going on at the house..it is taped off with crime scene tape

Keep us informed Really!! Please and Thank you.

[kitty1182]

Sorry to but in I drove fast there is something going on at the house..it is taped off with crime scene tape

Now?..................

[Regina.Lampert]

WHAT? After all of the complaining now they don't want it.
Drama Drama Drama.:glare:

imo

Could it be there won't be a trial??? :ohmy:

[WillowInFlight]

Sorry to but in I drove fast there is something going on at the house..it is taped off with crime scene tape

Wasn't that tape there yesterday?

[really3997]

All I know is that there are lots of police, crime scene tape and the csi vans...I will hook up with everyone later....

[cajunmoon]

Sorry to but in I drove fast there is something going on at the house..it is taped off with crime scene tape

The Anthony housee? I didn't quite get your post. You drove past?

[True2Blues]

two million sounds like a lot but when you consider taxes, legal fees, expert testimony....it maybe will barely cover her expenses to date...and I have a feeling it's going to be a long trial...

I'm sure they'll find more things to peddle. I wouldn't put it past them to start auctioning off that poor child's clothes. Anything for money.

[kitty1182]

All I know is that there are lots of police, crime scene tape and the csi vans...I will hook up with everyone later....

Oh Lord..I hope G or C didn't do something to themselves..:sad:

[5boxersmom]

All I know is that there are lots of police, crime scene tape and the csi vans...I will hook up with everyone later....

Right now? Whoa.

[Regina.Lampert]

And again, I truly commend you for that. I really, really do. I wish so bad that I could be like that, but I can't. I feel to much in my heart that the Anthony's kicked Caylee to the curb all these months while trying to make their daughter look good. That little one needed them more than anything in this world and she could not count on them.

I am not kicking them when they are down, I am just not budging on the feelings that I have had for them all along.

:rose:


Wolfie, you are entitled to your feelings, no matter what they are. Heaven knows there are facts that you are basing them on, I completely understand that. :seeya:

[really3997]

Wasn't that tape there yesterday?

This is right now and it is new tape...I went to see how the memorial looked and tried to drive by the house when the police were pulling up..so I high tailed it out of there....I have to go get my kids hopefully it will be on the news soon

[Cury-us Coyote]

Crime-scene investigation vans arrive at taped-off Anthony house
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bk-anthony-home-crime-scene-122008,0,6774428.story

[gaelicpeas]

The whole media-money thing makes me ill, all of this money for interviews, defense media blitzs is just awful. I am sure there are many family secrets that will creep out in trial for a juicy book.I agree. But I guess it sells...

[Regina.Lampert]

Oh Lord..I hope G or C didn't do something to themselves..:sad:

Oh sis, me too. :sad:

[WillowInFlight]

And again, I truly commend you for that. I really, really do. I wish so bad that I could be like that, but I can't. I feel to much in my heart that the Anthony's kicked Caylee to the curb all these months while trying to make their daughter look good. That little one needed them more than anything in this world and she could not count on them.

I am not kicking them when they are down, I am just not budging on the feelings that I have had for them all along.

:rose:

And I respect your opinion. You go by what you believe in and you don't waver. :wub:

[cajunmoon]

Oh Lord..I hope G or C didn't do something to themselves..:sad:

Is that cam still outside?

[spiritwolf46]

Wolfie, you are entitled to your feelings, no matter what they are. Heaven knows there are facts that you are basing them on, I completely understand that. :seeya:

Thank you, Regina! I completely understand your views as well. What you just wrote means a lot to me. :wub:

[MrsHudson]

Pfft. If the A's would have walked out the front door of their own house and looked in their own neighborhood they would have found her themselves. Just proves how much they looked for her.

[5boxersmom]

Crime-scene investigation vans arrive at taped-off Anthony house
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bk-anthony-home-crime-scene-122008,0,6774428.story

TY. Your the best. Thanks to really for informing us. Wonder what is going on?

[spiritwolf46]

And I respect your opinion. You go by what you believe in and you don't waver. :wub:

Thank you, Willow. You guys are the bestest ever! :wub:

[kitty1182]

Is that cam still outside?

I don't see it...This doesn't sound good.

[?noanswer]

Right now? Whoa.


I just looked at the web cam. Looks the same as last night. I found this that was just posted on another site. "Orlando Sentiniel just reported that CSI has arrived at the A's house again with a search warrant. "

I do not have any verification if this is true or not.
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html - This is still as last night. Don't know if there is a newer link anywhere else.
JMO

[True2Blues]

Crime-scene investigation vans arrive at taped-off Anthony house
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bk-anthony-home-crime-scene-122008,0,6774428.story

Again? Looking for more evidence. Interesting, thanks for the link.

[impartial]

3:09 p.m.
Investigators tried to release the crime scene to Jose Baez and the rest of Casey Anthony's defense team, but they declined. The scene can now be accessed to the general public.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/12/minutetominute_update_in_remains_discovery_12_11.h tml

Hi Cury-us ..

Something is wrong with that report ... it is dated December 17th .. in the same article, LE was still discovering remains on the 18th, and had expanded the search area ... Nieves indicating the area would not be released until they were done with their search.

IMO

[Regina.Lampert]

Crime-scene investigation vans arrive at taped-off Anthony house
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bk-anthony-home-crime-scene-122008,0,6774428.story


Thank you Cury: FOUR CRIMESCENE VANS ARRIVE - Wow.


Four crime scene investigation vans just pulled up at the Anthony house. The property has been taped off as a crime scene. Deputies have entered the house, and crime-scene investigators are waiting outside.

[cajunmoon]

Oh sis, me too. :sad:Mu God. that would be so sad. This time of year causes so many people to be sad and they have two reasons to feel that way on top of the general issues. :sad:

[5boxersmom]

Fox News Alert right now.

[spiritwolf46]

Again? Looking for more evidence. Interesting, thanks for the link.

WOW! I wonder what they are looking for now?

[?noanswer]

Live on Fox, now. JMO

[summer4meplz]

IIRC it is Casey who doesn't want ANY visitors. Except from the defence. She even refused to see the pastor when it was announced that the remains were that of Caylee.

especially since she was the one that asked to see him....maybe it was like that time she asked to see george and when he got there, she wouldn't see him either...I wonder about casey.....and if she really does want to confess but baez won't let her.....

[WillowInFlight]

TY. Your the best. Thanks to really for informing us. Wonder what is going on?

Sounds like they are collecting more evidence, they brought empty boxes.

[MrsHudson]

The cops are there collecting more evidence. G and C are okay. G seems mad though. According to the media that is.

[FrankieBones1]

The crimescene is about to be released according to Fox News. They showed a live shot at the house a moment ago with several CSI folks there.

[summer4meplz]

I have read on several message boards that the Anthonys may be reading them. That would include here. I have also read on several boards harsh criticism of them if they are reading message boards.
Personally, who is to judge what anybody does when they are in pain? I certainly wouldn't judge them for that.

I know most would say that they read to see what is being said and attack anybody they disagree with. This would be typical of their past behavior, but I think they might take some comfort in knowing how many people loved Caylee. Even people who seem to hate them.

Think about why we are all here. Maybe not all, but most of us are here because we care about Caylee.


I can't imagine them reading message boards....I know I wouldn't if I were them...would you?

[kitty1182]

Thank you Cury: FOUR CRIMESCENE VANS ARRIVE - Wow.


Four crime scene investigation vans just pulled up at the Anthony house. The property has been taped off as a crime scene. Deputies have entered the house, and crime-scene investigators are waiting outside.

I don't feel so well..Lord, I hope they didn't take their life..

[AMS]

WHAT?! After all those motions and all that carrying on to the press, now they don't want to see it? :rolleyes:

Oh brother. I guess all they wanted to do was bad mouth LE in public and plant, plant, plant that seed of doubt. Grrr..

[True2Blues]

WOW! I wonder what they are looking for now?

I don't know, but it sounds like they brought plenty of people to look for whatever it is.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Hi Cury-us ..

Something is wrong with that report ... it is dated December 17th .. in the same article, LE was still discovering remains on the 18th, and had expanded the search area ... Nieves indicating the area would not be released until they were done with their search.

IMO

IMO, they are rushing to be the first to report. FNC has live video.
jmo
:seeya:

[WillowInFlight]

I don't feel so well..Lord, I hope they didn't take their life..

George has been seen so we know he is alright.

[MrsHudson]

Well we will see if the A's complain about this or not. We will see if they are sincere about being willing to cooperate with LE. Or will their lawyer gripe about this intrusion during a time of grief etc. etc. etc.

[FrankieBones1]

especially since she was the one that asked to see him....maybe it was like that time she asked to see george and when he got there, she wouldn't see him either...I wonder about casey.....and if she really does want to confess but baez won't let her.....

I believe this happens often with defense lawyers and their guilty clients. I wish that just once, the lawyer would listen to their client when they want to plead guilty. Would sure save the state a mitful.

How long have the police been at the Anthony home today?

[stef]

Crime-scene vans arrive at taped-off Anthony house; deputies release site
From Staff Reports (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bk-anthony-home-crime-scene-122008,0,6774428.story?track=rss)
3:49 PM EST, December 20, 2008

[Regina.Lampert]

Thank you, Regina! I completely understand your views as well. What you just wrote means a lot to me. :wub:

That's right friend, we have all come too far to get into petty squabbles over how we feel about the parents, imo.

I just saw the investigators going into the anthony home, it was a bunch of them. Must be something very critical to disturb them today, imo. In a way, I hope we learn the parents called them to pick up some stuff.

[WillowInFlight]

I don't know, but it sounds like they brought plenty of people to look for whatever it is.

What could it be that they haven't already taken I wonder.

[?noanswer]

I don't feel so well..Lord, I hope they didn't take their life..

It was reported that GA greeted them at the door, not looking happy. JMO

[5boxersmom]

Fox News update after the break.

[spiritwolf46]

I don't feel so well..Lord, I hope they didn't take their life..


Now THAT I totally agree with. I don't want them to do any harm to themselves. But it does look as if they are just taking more evidence from the home.

[MalloryCat]

What could it be that they haven't already taken I wonder.

Toxicology came back?

[SandyO]

Fox reporting new developments and showed a clip of crime scene investigators (a group of them) entering the Anthony house --- again. Watch Fox now.

[?noanswer]

Is it live on the net anywhere?

Fox to do a report (after the commercial!). JMO

[cajunmoon]

I can't imagine them reading message boards....I know I wouldn't if I were them...would you?
If I were in the Anthonys situation I in all honesty can't say what I would or wouldn't do. I choose, however, not to judge them for it if they are. I won't kick them when they are down. I know how that feels.

[jammies]

TY. Your the best. Thanks to really for informing us. Wonder what is going on?



FOX is reporting on this after the break. For sure at the top of the hour in 5 minutes.

curiousity is killin' me..

[Regina.Lampert]

I don't feel so well..Lord, I hope they didn't take their life..

Oh no, are you feeling woozie again??? Sit down, I think everything is okay with cindy and george he opened the door for them to come in and collect evidence.

[WillowInFlight]

Now THAT I totally agree with. I don't want them to do any harm to themselves. But it does look as if they are just taking more evidence from the home.

I wonder if after George and Cindy got the news yesterday, they went and searched Casey and Caylees room, or other places and found evidence.

[trich]

So much for the defense wanting to examine the site.
Now it appears they could care less and are letting the public walk all over it.
Just goes to show what liars they are also.

[HouseOfClark]

That's right friend, we have all come too far to get into petty squabbles over how we feel about the parents, imo.

I just saw the investigators going into the anthony home, it was a bunch of them. Must be something very critical to disturb them today, imo. In a way, I hope we learn the parents called them to pick up some stuff.

What in the world is going on?

How much evidence did the Odious One leave behind?

[WillowInFlight]

Toxicology came back?

OMG would that not be awesome?

[Oregongal]

3:09 p.m.
Investigators tried to release the crime scene to Jose Baez and the rest of Casey Anthony's defense team, but they declined. The scene can now be accessed to the general public.
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/12/minutetominute_update_in_remains_discovery_12_11.h tml

After all that squacking about wanting access the defense declines?
Unfreakingbelievable!
:ohmy:

[summer4meplz]

Sorry to but in I drove fast there is something going on at the house..it is taped off with crime scene tape

do you have a laptop and a webcam...?? maybe we should take up a collection to provide you with the necessary tools, ya little sleuth you:wink:

[cajunmoon]

That's right friend, we have all come too far to get into petty squabbles over how we feel about the parents, imo.

I just saw the investigators going into the anthony home, it was a bunch of them. Must be something very critical to disturb them today, imo. In a way, I hope we learn the parents called them to pick up some stuff.
I am thinking that if toxicology results came in, they may be taking other evidence for comparative tests.

at least it appears that they are OK.

[Pocha]

Pfft. If the A's would have walked out the front door of their own house and looked in their own neighborhood they would have found her themselves. Just proves how much they looked for her.
I don't think it ever occurred to them to look for caylee's remains trashed somewhere close by since they believed that she was alive and kidnapped to somewhere far far away.

[FrankieBones1]

A new search warrant was issued. Must have found more evidence at the crimescene.

[?noanswer]

Phil Keating, CSI a brand new search warrant based on evidence found at body crime scene. At same time closed bcs, showed up at house. Big crowd at scene. (They showed PK putting on his jacket on a small screen right before he went live.) JMO

[jammies]

Is there a webcam on the house?

[summer4meplz]

All I know is that there are lots of police, crime scene tape and the csi vans...I will hook up with everyone later....

oh my God....I hope they didn't hurt themselves or each other.....

[MrsHudson]

I wonder if after George and Cindy got the news yesterday, they went and searched Casey and Caylees room, or other places and found evidence.

I don't know this was done as a search warrant executed by the judge today.

[cajunmoon]

After all that squacking about wanting access the defense declines?
Unfreakingbelievable!
:ohmy:

The defense only wanted to be able to complain about their access being denied. They never wanted it in the first place. They tried to villify the FBI and OCSD at every turn, and I hope it backfires for them.

[martha]

I try to think what I would do if I was c and g. I don;t think I could even stay in that house with so much of caylee in it but then again this is their home. I am sure it has a lot of sweet things they will always keep. I wonder if when g went to work that day if casey come back to the house and that is when something happened to caylee? my mind just goes from one thing to another.jmho

[FrankieBones1]

I don't think it ever occurred to them to look for caylee's remains trashed somewhere close by since they believed that she was alive and kidnapped to somewhere far far away.
I wonder if Casey's parents knew that she had buried her pet hampster there years ago or that it was a hang out for her and her school buddies. If so, they really should have taken a walk that way months ago.

[True2Blues]

What in the world is going on?

How much evidence did the Odious One leave behind?

Well, all Fox News is saying is that it's a new search warrant based on evidence found at the scene where the body was found. They refused to elaborate on any of that at the press conference, so it sounds like they aren't gonna tell.

And they shouldn't, but I still want to know!

[Mayasmimi]

Wonder what they could possibly be searching for just now? Watching FOX.

[kitty1182]

A new search warrant was issued. Must have found more evidence at the crimescene.

Must have found something much needed to go back to the house.
I am glad G and C are ok....

[WillowInFlight]

I don't know this was done as a search warrant executed by the judge today.

Yeah I guess they wouldn't need a search warrant if they were called. Darn it

[MalloryCat]

OMG would that not be awesome?

Yeah, I think it did, I wonder what they are going to seize?

[stef]

Capt. Angelo Nieves said deputies found evidence at the site where Caylee Marie Anthony's remains were found last week and needed additional items from the household she shared with her mother, Casey Anthony, and her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

"After reviewing the crime-scene site, our investigators saw fit to obtain an additional search warrant for the Anthony residence to obtain additional items of evidence."

[WillowInFlight]

Are George and Cindy allowed to be in the house when they conduct the search?

[5boxersmom]

Right when you think things are calming down with this case something else happens.

imo

[Regina.Lampert]

What in the world is going on?

How much evidence did the Odious One leave behind?

Might just be a cowinkydink, but we just learned the defense is not interested in going to the crimescene, now we have four vans and 10 investigators arriving to take more evidence. Dare we hope the odious creature has confessed?

[MrsHudson]

A new search warrant was issued. Must have found more evidence at the crimescene.

As soon as crime scene was released they hightailed it to the Anthony's to get more evidence.

[FrankieBones1]

I wonder if after George and Cindy got the news yesterday, they went and searched Casey and Caylees room, or other places and found evidence.

I have to wonder if they've been going through the house with a fine tooth comb for days now in anticipation of more search warrants.

[kitty1182]

Might just be a cowinkydink, but we just learned the defense is not interested in going to the crimescene, now we have four vans and 10 investigators arriving to take more evidence. Dare we hope the odious creature has confessed?

Maybe she did...

[HouseOfClark]

Yeah I guess they wouldn't need a search warrant if they were called. Darn it

With THIS case, even if they were given permission, history has shown that it's better to have a search warrant (just in case).

[*MoonRider*]

Baez did say that they were looking at some offers to help pay for the defense...

In one of the jailhouse interviews in July George asked Casey when she saw Baez last and OC said "Last night but we just went over the business angle of things". This was before she was charged with murder. Seems they were working on some deal even then. I always found that a strange statement. JMO

[FrankieBones1]

As soon as crime scene was released they hightailed it to the Anthony's to get more evidence.
Thanks! Yup, just hear that on the news. It was well coordinated.

[Pocha]

I wonder if they are looking for that book caylee was reading in the video.

[sunstar]

Capt. Angelo Nieves said deputies found evidence at the site where Caylee Marie Anthony's remains were found last week and needed additional items from the household she shared with her mother, Casey Anthony, and her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

"After reviewing the crime-scene site, our investigators saw fit to obtain an additional search warrant for the Anthony residence to obtain additional items of evidence."

Hi everybody :) So interesting ~ I wonder what it was? And has there been any more word on what looked like Caylee's book that was found with her remains?

[WillowInFlight]

Maybe she did...

Maybe, NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[MoonFlwr]

Good Day.....does someone have a link to the live webcam outside the Anthony home? TIA

[MalloryCat]

Trich, I respectfully disagree. Obviously it means that they don't think there's any value in picking over a site that's already been gone over with a fine-tooth comb and that anything of evidentiary value is in another place. In time, they'll be able to do a 2nd autopsy if they wish and go over whatever else has been found through the discovery process.


Exactly. Its only logical, not scandalous, there is nothing there anymore, they can get great pictures from GoogleEarth at this point if they need it.

jmo

[?noanswer]

Yeah, I think it did, I wonder what they are going to seize?

It was reported they had several boxes. I wonder if one of the things they are going to try and retrieve is the book that Caylee was reading at the ALF. JMO

[kitty1182]

Maybe, NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Well, it is Christmas time....I can wish ..lol

[dixie77]

Might just be a cowinkydink, but we just learned the defense is not interested in going to the crimescene, now we have four vans and 10 investigators arriving to take more evidence. Dare we hope the odious creature has confessed?
=====================

Good thought about maybe she confessed. Could that be why the defense is not interested in the crimescene?

[GentleBreeze]

OMG would that not be awesome?

That would be wonderful but it takes 4-5 weeks for toxs to come back.

imoo

[HouseOfClark]

Might just be a cowinkydink, but we just learned the defense is not interested in going to the crimescene, now we have four vans and 10 investigators arriving to take more evidence. Dare we hope the odious creature has confessed?


I thought about that. Not a full confession but an indication that she's ready to play "Let's Make A Deal".

[5boxersmom]

Good Day.....does someone have a link to the live webcam outside the Anthony home? TIA

The ones I have are not showing anything live.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[?noanswer]

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Good thought about maybe she confessed. Could that be why the defense is not interested in the crimescene?


Ok everyone 1 .. 2 .. 3, Cross Fingers! JMO

[2lakes]

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Good thought about maybe she confessed. Could that be why the defense is not interested in the crimescene?

My guess would be that there is nothing left there. It would be nice if she confessed but I can't imagine her doing so.

[MrsHudson]

OMG would that not be awesome?

I bet not cause the ME said yesterday that would take a couple of weeks.

[Mayasmimi]

I wonder if they are looking for that book caylee was reading in the video.


FOX posted a pic online yesterday of THAT book where the body was found.

[True2Blues]

I have to wonder if they've been going through the house with a fine tooth comb for days now in anticipation of more search warrants.

I'd bet they were.

[jewel6]

Trich, I respectfully disagree. Obviously it means that they don't think there's any value in picking over a site that's already been gone over with a fine-tooth comb and that anything of evidentiary value is in another place. In time, they'll be able to do a 2nd autopsy if they wish and go over whatever else has been found through the discovery process.

ita! waste of time to research! jmo This defense has their work cut out for them. jmo

[cajunmoon]

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Good thought about maybe she confessed. Could that be why the defense is not interested in the crimescene?
You all will know if Geraldo and Jane curb their enthusiastic gloating over the meter reader and lack of soft tissue and lack of a specified COD.

[Remy]

Fox to do a report (after the commercial!). JMO

I don't have Fox can you provide updates please. If this there a live link on the net I can't find it.

[2lakes]

The ones I have are not showing anything live.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

We need an update from really3997!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HouseOfClark]

In one of the jailhouse interviews in July George asked Casey when she saw Baez last and OC said "Last night but we just went over the business angle of things". This was before she was charged with murder. Seems they were working on some deal even then. I always found that a strange statement. JMO

Baez was trying to work a deal back in July. Seeing as the tapes were from July, that could very well be.

Plus even George said Casey would take things as far as she could.

Maybe this is as far as it goes?

[?noanswer]

I have to wonder if they've been going through the house with a fine tooth comb for days now in anticipation of more search warrants.

I wonder what the house looked back when they came back after the last search. I wonder if they had put everything back in place. CA probably knew everything that was missing. JMO

[trich]

Hi Cury-us ..

Something is wrong with that report ... it is dated December 17th .. in the same article, LE was still discovering remains on the 18th, and had expanded the search area ... Nieves indicating the area would not be released until they were done with their search.

IMO

Mine says December 20th

[kitty1182]

My thoughts too. If there were any linens left in the house, Cindy has probably already washed them multiple times. Too bad OSCO can't just keep them out until they have everything they think they might need. I wonder if they are going in the backyard again?

Now if they dig that bush up, I will have a heart attack.

[jewel6]

Baez was trying to work a deal back in July. Seeing as the tapes were from July, that could very well be.

Plus even George said Casey would take things as far as she could.

Maybe this is as far as it goes?

Dont we all hope? I dont think she will ever confess. Maybe just maybe she reached rock bottom. I doubt it though! JMO

[WillowInFlight]

That would be wonderful but it takes 4-5 weeks for toxs to come back.

imoo

Well like Kitty just said, it's Christmas time we can wish, LOL.

[summer4meplz]

I believe this happens often with defense lawyers and their guilty clients. I wish that just once, the lawyer would listen to their client when they want to plead guilty. Would sure save the state a mitful.

How long have the police been at the Anthony home today?

I don't know...I guess not long...I was trying to catch up.....at first i thought maybe a suicide/murder and I felt so sorry for them.....but apparently they're gathering more evidence...LE seems to be really mad at george and cindy..I guess time will tell all...I certainly hope so...

[sunstar]

I thought about that. Not a full confession but an indication that she's ready to play "Let's Make A Deal".

Please, no!! I don't want her making any deals! MOO

[Cury-us Coyote]

Camera Watches Caylee Anthony Remains Scene

Investigators have cleared the scene where Caylee Anthony's remains were found more than a week ago.

Detectives finished their search of the area late Saturday afternoon. "No Trespassing" signs have been posted and a camera is watching over the property, which is less than a half a mile from the home of her grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony.

Also Saturday, detectives served a search warrant on the Anthonys' home.

http://www.wftv.com/news/18325661/detail.html

[sunstar]

Now if they dig that bush up, I will have a heart attack.

I know, kitty!! :smile:

[spiritwolf46]

Well like Kitty just said, it's Christmas time we can wish, LOL.


I do wish that she would come clean. That would at least spare her parents the horrible things they will see and hear during the trial. I do not wish that on the Anthony's at all.

[trich]

It is live on fox now

[AMS]

Now if they dig that bush up, I will have a heart attack.

Oh Kitty. That's the first thing I thought of when I heard they were back at the house. I have the feeling that the bush will be dug up before we are thru with the case.

[kitty1182]

Be back in a bit....:chicken:

[HouseOfClark]

Please, no!! I don't want her making any deals! MOO

I don't want her making any deals where she gets off light, unless they are fully prepared to "stick it to her" with the financial crimes.

If she stays in prison till she's 80, I'm fine with that.

ETA that I believe she should serve MORE time for the murder than the stolen checks. I re-read my post and didn't want you to think Clark was going soft on Casey.

[Chongo]

She probably told them that now that they have the place all cleared out could they take her down there to look for an old lost Tiffany ring she can't find?:blink:

[Mayasmimi]

The Orlando Sentinel had photos too, but was there ever a confirmation that is was the book?

Have no idea. FOX said it was so.

[5boxersmom]

What do they keep finding at the crime scene that links to the house? Did Casey throw a bunch of stuff of Caylee's out there too?

PK just said material things not bones.

[cajunmoon]

I know, kitty!! :smile:
that bush has always given me the creeps. always drawn my curiosity. My niece's husband is in LE and he said he had a hunch about that too. I wish they would dig it up!

[MoonFlwr]

The ones I have are not showing anything live.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Ok! :) Thanks for the response!

[KatieKates]

She probably told them that now that they have the place all cleared out could they take her down there to look for an old lost Tiffany ring she can't find?:blink:

I know I should know this but could someone shed some light on the importance of the ring? I remember Cindy asking. Also, what has LP been talking about when he says KC hung a cross at Blanchard Park? TIA.

[trich]

Phil is saying that they found "material" evidence and that is why they are at the home again.
Wonder if it is the book.
wonder if they are looking for the book from the video....if they can not find it in the house ....might be proof that is the same book found at the site....if it is indeed was a book in one of those site pics.

[MrsHudson]

More on Fox in three minutes:

Phil Keating says LE told him that they found material evidence other than bones that leads them to get more evidence from the house.

[MalloryCat]

Be back in a bit....:chicken:

Hurry back!

:rose:

[summer4meplz]

I DON'T GET FOX!!!! :sad:

this rarely works for me but maybe you will have better luck than I do...


http://www.livenewscameras.com/

[sunstar]

I don't want her making any deals where she gets off light, unless they are fully prepared to "stick it to her" with the financial crimes.

If she stays in prison till she's 80, I'm fine with that.

ETA that I believe she should serve MORE time for the murder than the stolen checks. I re-read my post and didn't want you to think Clark was going soft on Casey.

Yes, I agree with you. I just don't want the DA making any deals for manslaughter or something lighter than murder, or where she'll be paroled while she's still young (like, as you said, under 80 :) ). MOO

[impartial]

The Orlando Sentinel had photos too, but was there ever a confirmation that is was the book?

LE hasn't confirmed anything found at the site except bones.

If that area has been underwater since August, I don't know how a cardboard/paper book would not disintegrate. Paper doesn't last very long under water.

IMO

[?noanswer]

I can't imagine what they may be looking for. They have already taken so much stuff. I wonder what was at the bcs that made them come back today. This was totally planned as they had the SW already and went there as soon as the bcs was closed there were at the house.
Fox News:
PK - New evidence at bcs -something found there caused them to get new search warrant.

Caylee poster still in window.

CSI agents as well as detectives.

Found material evidence other than bones. All people moved from bcs to A's house.

He really doesn't have a lot of info. JMO

[WillowInFlight]

I know I should know this but could someone shed some light on the importance of the ring? I remember Cindy asking. Also, what has LP been talking about when he says KC hung a cross at Blanchard Park? TIA.

That cross has always confused me, I thought the cross was put there for a woman that was found murdered there.

[chrissybot]

Maybe, just maybe, whatever clothes casey was talking about the cops not finding, are buried in the yard(under bush:scared:) or hidden somewhere in the home???????

[summer4meplz]

Well, all Fox News is saying is that it's a new search warrant based on evidence found at the scene where the body was found. They refused to elaborate on any of that at the press conference, so it sounds like they aren't gonna tell.

And they shouldn't, but I still want to know!


do they always take 4 vans?

[jewel6]

Phil is saying that they found "material" evidence and that is why they are at the home again.
Wonder if it is the book.
wonder if they are looking for the book from the video....if they can not find it in the house ....might be proof that is the same book found at the site....if it is indeed was a book in one of those site pics.

I heard on nancy last night that that book was rare too! You cant run out and buy it now. Its out of circulation. I think its a big clue for them. Casey was tired of Caylee and anything to do with her. jmo

[spiritwolf46]

Gonna run.

I just wanted to thank you all for being as wonderful as you are! You know who you all are! ;)

Have a wonderful, safe evening and keep up the prayers for Caylee.

Justice will be served for her. I just know it!

Later all! :rose:

[summer4meplz]

Must have found something much needed to go back to the house.
I am glad G and C are ok....


I'm glad they are ok too.....

[2lakes]

Maybe, just maybe, whatever clothes casey was talking about the cops not finding, are buried in the yard(under bush:scared:) or hidden somewhere in the home???????

can someone post a photo of the bush. Was this newly planted about the time Caylee went missing?

[cassidy]

[B]
Also Saturday, detectives served a search warrant on the Anthonys' home.[/I]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18325661/detail.html

Whoa! Another search warrant? today? Wonder what else they found out there. I'm missing everything today.

[Regina.Lampert]

Yeah I guess they wouldn't need a search warrant if they were called. Darn it

Oh I still think they would, so it could be used in court proceedings.

[5boxersmom]

I know I should know this but could someone shed some light on the importance of the ring? I remember Cindy asking. Also, what has LP been talking about when he says KC hung a cross at Blanchard Park? TIA.

What did Casey say about the ring when Cindy ask? I can't remember.

She probably pawned it. :biggrin:

imo

[HouseOfClark]

I can't imagine what they may be looking for. They have already taken so much stuff. I wonder what was at the bcs that made them come back today. This was totally planned as they had the SW already and went there as soon as the bcs was closed there were at the house.
Fox News:
PK - New evidence at bcs -something found there caused them to get new search warrant.

Caylee poster still in window.

CSI agents as well as detectives.

Found material evidence other than bones. All people moved from bcs to A's house.

He really doesn't have a lot of info. JMO

But he is easy on the eyes. IMO :tongueside:

[SandyO]

Maybe, NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

If Casey confessed I will eat my hat. Possibly forensic results are back........requiring them to look at something else. It wouldn't take all those people to look for something simple.

[Barbara fl.]

That cross has always confused me, I thought the cross was put there for a woman that was found murdered there.



I heard that a tiffany ring of the grandmothers was stolen from the house....Casey probably tried to make it look like Zenaida had keys and came in and stole it....but i'm not sure....

It's more likely that Casey stole the ring....

[WillowInFlight]

Whoa! Another search warrant? today? Wonder what else they found out there. I'm missing everything today.

I swear this case is like a roller coaster, one day it has me up, the next down. I just want them to find evidence that will leave a jury with no questions about guilt.

[Tokyo Rose]

There seems to be a bush phobia here.:unsure:

[sunstar]

LE hasn't confirmed anything found at the site except bones.

If that area has been underwater since August, I don't know how a cardboard/paper book would not disintegrate. Paper doesn't last very long under water.

IMO

I was thinking the same thing, unless it had been inside a sealed plastic bag. If that was the book we saw photos of it didn't look like it had been out there in the elements very long, imo.

[Barbara fl.]

It was just across my screen that "the bones were not in tact...I don't know what that means.....Could some still be missing or were some broken?

[SandyO]

Baez (and others) are going to be screaming "harassment" any minute now, and it does seem investigators could have gotten all they needed when they turned the house upside down last week.

[WillowInFlight]

Oh I still think they would, so it could be used in court proceedings.

So it's possible that George and Cindy found something, and maybe thats why George looked so mad. Not that I really have a clue.

[KatieKates]

What did Casey say about the ring when Cindy ask? I can't remember.

She probably pawned it. :biggrin:

imo

She shrugged it off, IIRC, she said she hasn't seen it for a while...

[jewel6]

I was thinking the same thing, unless it had been inside a sealed plastic bag. If that was the book we saw photos of it didn't look like it had been out there in the elements very long, imo.\
I thought the same thing! Surely no one would go and put that book there. :scared: jmo

[HouseOfClark]

Casey could have buried lots of stuff where she dumped Caylee. I am of the opinion that she went back on more than one occasion.

Possibilities include the infamous blackjack.

Whatever it is, it has to be pretty serious to disturb Cindy and George today of all days.

JMO

[sunstar]

Maybe, just maybe, whatever clothes casey was talking about the cops not finding, are buried in the yard(under bush:scared:) or hidden somewhere in the home???????

Why wouldn't she just throw them away? You might be right, but it just doesn't make sense to me that she'd leave them anywhere at the house if they have some significance to Caylee's death. MOO

[WillowInFlight]

It was just across my screen that "the bones were not in tact...I don't know what that means.....Could some still be missing or were some broken?

I really thought I heard last night that they have 90 percent of Caylees remains.

[trich]

But he is easy on the eyes. IMO :tongueside:


Very easy...on the eyes.
:tongueside:

[stef]

I wish they had some helicopters up, so we could see if they are in the yard.

Remember they put down new pavers in July, maybe they are looking for matches to the brick like things (http://www.ocso.com/DesktopModules/SimpleGallery/SlideShowPopup.aspx?PortalID=0&ItemID=549&Border=White&sb=Name&sd=ASC)near the skull discovery.
one more pic (http://www.ocso.com/DesktopModules/SimpleGallery/SlideShowPopup.aspx?PortalID=0&ItemID=548&Border=White&sb=Name&sd=ASC)

Yes, I have paver issues...

boxes say to me they are looking for something that won't fit into a bag because they are too heavy
or
they are looking for more chemicals.