Friday, Dec 19, EVENING, Part 4

[Sweetly]

Here we go :biggrin:

[playnice]

Listening to Koby on LKL and get the feeling he may not be called to be a part of this team.

[Sweetly]

Just now walked in the door. Did I miss anything significant? My heart is so broken!

[Januarybaby]

Im surprised the pastor wasnt there longer than 19 minutes. From going to the prison to seek answers myself, its a long time. They need to sign in, show ID, be checked for any kind of contriband ( and yes they do it to the clergy too and the laywers).

Then they have to inform the prisoner they have a visitor and if the guard is busy with other things then they do that. The prisoner is brought down to a room where the visit takes place. This takes time too.
Casey probably had to think about what she was going to do then refused. Then they ahve to come down and inform the person whos waiting.

They have to go through doors with bars and lock them before and after they enter and leave. Sometimes they ahve as many as 4-5 doors depending where the prisoner is housed. Plus the walk to get there and back

Just to get a visit takes a LONG time

[ccnsd]

Thanks for the new thread Sweetly. Did you tell the passengers on the last board to grab their coats & posts that the train is moving forward? :biggrin:

[Oregongal]

Thanks sweetly for the new thread.
I didn't notice how close we were to the start of it and yet again found myself posting on the other thread.
I'm going to carry over my last post.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmh
I'm sorry...but ng's timing regarding her present from the twins ,is in my opinion...bad taste.

I respectfully disagree. On this day of such sadness, I found it touching that she brought our focus back on life. Nancy's twins were a gift and a blessing for her and her family. I for one needed reminding on this day needed reminding of that. I appreciate it and think her timing was wonderfully appropriate.
We have all lost someone today. I for one have been devestated all day.
Altho, I expected it, to have it true has broken my heart. I have felt as if Caylee were mine. That beautiful picture of her they had at the 'announcement' is the one I have had next to me 24/7 for all these months. I know I can't truly imagine what many of you who have lost a child are feeling right now. I also feel this is God's way for me to have gotten a glimpse into that pain. So that I will forever have more compassion and empathy for all of you.
Many of us have been trying whatever we could to ease our pain and sadness today and I appreciated Nancy for sharing a bit of of her life with her children to ease that among us.
I have only posted a couple of times today, speaking to the facts, reacting to what the TH's have said.
I haven't yet until now been able to begin to express the pain and brokenheartedness I have felt since this morning.
Many of you have been able to express what I feel, what my heart is feeling now, I appreciate each of you for being able to say the words I cannot say.
I have gone thru so many emotions today. I have stepped away. I have cried so many times I have a pounding headache. I have prayed.
I have a friend dropping by in the next 1/2 hr to drop gifts off to us. She is one of those who hasn't been even aware of Caylee except for what I've told her. And I'm hesitant to see her. She's into Christmas and I'm grieving.
I don't want to dampen her happiness, yet, want her to know how I'm feeling. So, I'm torn about seeing her and how I will or can be with her right now.
As I said, my emotions are all over the place right now.
The only comfort I am feeling is knowing for sure that our angel Caylee is in the arms of my Lord and she will never know anymore pain, confusion, upset and will never shed another tear.
She truly is in the arms of the angels.
Sweet beautiful Caylee, I love you and will never forget you.
Rest sweet baby, it's over now. You were found and I know you are safe forever.
:rose::rose::rose:

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[playnice]

Argh! Geragos!! Well, he knows about unsuccessful defenses of loathesome killer-defendants.

And I agree about Kobilinsky. I used to like him so much.

I think even he believes Casey killed Caylee.

[stef]

I wonder what color garbage bags they use at Gentiva health...

[kellabeck]

At least Geragos knows that COD is not necessary to a conviction.

[Sweetly]

Thanks for the new thread Sweetly. Did you tell the passengers on the last board to grab their coats & posts that the train is moving forward? :biggrin:

Yes I did. I hope they see it cuz I posted three times!!! I had to leave for a while, get away from all this...busted down crying in Wal Mart! They prolly think i was nutzzzzzz, lol. Did I miss anything significant?

I did miss NG! I bet she was bawling her head off????

[rbrnmw]

Argh! Geragos!! Well, he knows about unsuccessful defenses of loathesome killer-defendants.

And I agree about Kobilinsky. I used to like him so much.

Geragos STHU he has never met a camera he doesn't like

[legalmania]

Thanks Sweetly my head was beginning to swell.

[WillowInFlight]

I think even he believes Casey killed Caylee.

I think everyone believes it. Everyone except Geraldo.:glare:

[barskin&co.]

I just can't take it anymore. It's Jaynie Weintraub. It's Mercedes Bends-over-backwards-for-the-defense. It never ends today. I switched back to MSNBC and politics.

[legalmania]

Just now walked in the door. Did I miss anything significant? My heart is so broken!

Only some really good conversation.

[barskin&co.]

At least Geragos knows that COD is not necessary to a conviction.

He oughta!

[Sweetly]

Sweetly KathyReich just said they were getting paid but singed a contract that they couldn't tell who was paying them....HL LIED!! Oh I sure hope PROSCUETION uses this against him....

OMG, this is such a fiasco!! You'd think with it having been confirmed it was Caylee, they could all have the decency to hold of for even one day with all this BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cursing:

Anything else significant I missed? Please,:wink: anyone

[Mayasmimi]

Im surprised the pastor wasnt there longer than 19 minutes. From going to the prison to seek answers myself, its a long time. They need to sign in, show ID, be checked for any kind of contriband ( and yes they do it to the clergy too and the laywers).

Then they have to inform the prisoner they have a visitor and if the guard is busy with other things then they do that. The prisoner is brought down to a room where the visit takes place. This takes time too.
Casey probably had to think about what she was going to do then refused. Then they ahve to come down and inform the person whos waiting.

They have to go through doors with bars and lock them before and after they enter and leave. Sometimes they ahve as many as 4-5 doors depending where the prisoner is housed. Plus the walk to get there and back

Just to get a visit takes a LONG time


Today was maybe a "special" day....:sad: Just walked in the door. Will read further. JMOHO.

[rbrnmw]

I just can't take it anymore. It's Jaynie Weintraub. It's Mercedes Bends-over-backwards-for-the-defense. It never ends today. I switched back to MSNBC and politics.
Jayne is a joke

[hamebone]

I wonder what color garbage bags they use at Gentiva health...

Wow, thats a great question. You think Cindy was stealing them from work? Wouldnt that be a nail in Casey's coffin; if Cindy brought home bags from work...and Casey used one...

[April23]

:rose::rose::rose:

[forensicfan]

I cried when I heard the news that they confirmed the bones to be Caylee's. I was certain that this was her when the news broke that they found the body of a child in the area and the actions of the defense made it even more inevitable but something about it being confirmed just grabbed me by the heart.

I know I am in the minority here when it comes to sympathy for George and Cindy Anthony but I can't help it.

:crying: This little icon does't look much like it's crying but it's the closest I could come to it.

[GentleBreeze]

Definitely. He has little kids, himself. Maybe it's gotten to him? Ashleigh needs deprogramming. She must have had dinner with Jamie Floyd.

Well believe it or not....Jamie Floyd said today that the Prosecution has a very strong case.

Ashleigh is an expert at nothing.

imoo

[~jomomma~]

who's truck is that in the driveway?

[kellabeck]

In fairness, Ashleigh's made some points and she has followed the case so at least she's been accurate.

Oh, so sad, Mark Lunsford. *sigh*

[WillowInFlight]

I wonder why Lee retained a lawyer after the ID was made.

[Mayasmimi]

Then when they get into the courtroom, the FIRST thing they'll whinge about it is how the case has too much public opinion.

Sadly, sounds all too familiar.

Listening to Mark Lunsford.......so sad.

[Satyagraha]

We are too immersed
in cases .
Right after the news conference
today ,
I was picking something up at Walgreen's .
I said to the Pharmacist :
they identified the remains
of that girl .
She said
"Natalie Holloway ?"
She never heard
of Caylee Anthony .
People are BUSY !
Try the case in
Pennsylvania
with all full-time employed
Jurors .
People could care less
who Caylee Anthony is .

[GentleBreeze]

I see Mark Lunsford is on Larry King.

What is Mark having to say?

TIA

[kitty1182]

who's truck is that in the driveway?

What's the link? I had already deleted mine earlier..Thanks!!

[Sweetly]

Anyone else want to try n go get the stragglers from the last thread? Ive posted 4 messages now, and still a bunch over there!!!

[legalmania]

:rose: I know how you're feeling. Yes she's in heaven now she will have Christmas with the Angels... She's no longer all alone she knows the love she never knew from her own mom...:rose:...FOR our angel who went home all too soon

She is a very strong spirit she drew in that meter reader every time, I believe she will stick around until her mother pays.

[kitty1182]

Anyone else want to try n go get the stragglers from the last thread? Ive posted 4 messages now, and still a bunch over there!!!

I'll try..lol

[Sweetly]

who's truck is that in the driveway?

Link please to where you are looking, jomomma???? I have missed so much but I just had to get away from all this for a while!

[legalmania]

Anyone else want to try n go get the stragglers from the last thread? Ive posted 4 messages now, and still a bunch over there!!!

they'll catch on.

[penguin01]

:rose: I know how you're feeling. Yes she's in heaven now she will have Christmas with the Angels... She's no longer all alone she knows the love she never knew from her own mom...:rose:...FOR our angel who went home all too soon

What was that rule about long posts? Oh yes - do NOT quote them - just name the poster you are speaking to.

[playnice]

Mark Lunsford. Very wise man.

[~jomomma~]

What's the link? I had already deleted mine earlier..Thanks!!

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

[Neffy]

Oh Henry LEE lied again they are getting paid but cant disclose whos paying them....Umm bet the Pros could ask that question and they'd have to answer.... When they singed a contract they cant tell. OH Hope pro ask this question

He stated it as fact on NG - PRO BONO everyone is entitled to a defense and that's what they do! The old giving back scenerio. OMG Henry "pants on fire" Lee at it again! For shame!

Who in the heck is funding this?

[Mayasmimi]

Wow, thats a great question. You think Cindy was stealing them from work? Wouldnt that be a nail in Casey's coffin; if Cindy brought home bags from work...and Casey used one...


Cindy better not have brought home trash bags. I'm thinking the defense team is going to try to put this off on anyone....even Cindy. Good Lord.......this is going to get even uglier....if that's possible.:cursing:

[cloe23]

Oh Henry LEE lied again they are getting paid but cant disclose whos paying them....Umm bet the Pros could ask that question and they'd have to answer.... When they singed a contract they cant tell. OH Hope pro ask this question

Give some people enough rope and...............

[catjoed]

What is Mark having to say?

TIA

Mark Lunsford. What a class act.

:crying:

[~jomomma~]

omg, i would LOVE to know what all they found at that crime scene!!

[WillowInFlight]

That truck has been there all afternoon.

[MrsHudson]

I wonder why Lee retained a lawyer after the ID was made.

I have not heard any speculation in the media about it. And I am just guessing but he's on the witness list and anyone who is a major witness needs an attorney before testifying. So in that sense you can't read anything into him getting one. I am sure Amy, Tony and the others have or will get an attorney to advise them too if they feel the need. It does not mean they are guilty of anything.

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose::rose::rose:

[Duckaroo]

It's been a very somber day here too for our family, as we, like everyone else here, have been following this case and began to feel like Caylee was one of our own.

We were at my parents earlier helping them decorate for the family Christmas get together and wrap some presents. My Husband, who's usually a rock was even overcome with emotion, as he was wrapping a gift he began talking about how wrong this was, how Caylee should be here, getting excited waiting for Christmas morning to come, watching the little Christmas shows and being loved. It broke all of us up again.

My little niece who is 13 has watched the case too, she was putting a decoration on the mantle that has two little bells and they jingled, she asked us all if we knew what that sound was..she said "remember the movie"? How the bells ring when an angel gets their wings?" Then she told us.."Caylee has had her wings for a while now, but she wants to remind everyone down here, so they won't be so sad because she's an angel now" So..we all did our best to cheer up and enjoy the evening.

:crying:

[catjoed]

God bless Mark Lunsford! Beautiful man.

You got that right.

[kitty1182]

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/mobilecam2.html

Gosh, I have no idea.....

Months ago when the cameras were on the house 24/7, I noticed the tree in the front yard was always droopy, all the time..Like it was so sad..
I just looked and the tree doesn't look like it did then...
Maybe even the tree is glad she was found...:rose:

[WillowInFlight]

I have not heard any speculation in the media about it. And I am just guessing but he's on the witness list and anyone who is a major witness needs an attorney before testifying. So in that sense you can't read anything into him getting one. I am sure Amy, Tony and the others have or will get an attorney to advise them too if they feel the need. It does not mean they are guilty of anything.

I'm just surprised at his timing.

[Cury-us Coyote]

He looks well.

He will go anywhere if the Anthonys want to speak to him.

Let Caylee come home and then everything else will fall into place.


IIRC ML made the same offer months ago on a radio show and even provided his phone number over the airwaves but the A's choose other supporters.
jmo

[legalmania]

Im hoping she speaks volumes in that court room and that evil B***H that did this to her will pay dearly and then Caylee can go rest in peace.....

She kept the CSI people there for eight days on their hands and knees. I hope she visits her mom in jail a couple of times to let her know she's stronger than mom thought.

[tmw]

Larry King asks embarrassing questions.....how do you feel about Mark Lansfords demeaner???? Dumb question. He should retire IMO

[Sweetly]

OK, so I take it LKL is on the Anthony case tonite??? It doesnt come on here until 9PM!!

[MalloryCat]

I wonder why Lee retained a lawyer after the ID was made.

Well, some have said, why does the meter reader have a lawyer, for as much as Lee has been accused of, why not him retaining one also?

I dont think Lee had anything to do with any of this, Casey is not some stoic creature who is going to take the fall for anyone, shes a selfish witch.

I wish Lee could sue Casey.

[~jomomma~]

i was just looking at all the pics from the crime scene. it's amazing in the arial pics, how close to those houses she was found

[Sweetly]

i was just looking at all the pics from the crime scene. it's amazing in the arial pics, how close to those houses she was found

Yes, I noticed that too. Unbelievably close!!

[I'mRight]

This may have been discussed on the earlier thread, but I feel like NG was disrepectful tonight. There is a time and place for everything. Her show is supposed to be for the victims, not a time to brag about gifts and her twins. I have no problem with her Baby Blog on her website, that is the place for the photos. If and it's a big IF the Anthonys were watching tonight, it would have been a slap in the face to them to see her bragging about earrings from her twins. We all know the twins didn't go out and buy them. Also I don't like the Happy Birthday announcements and all of the good looking people in other places. Those things take up precious time. Nancy went from sounding like she was in tears for Caylee while remembering the fallen soldier to gleefully naming off all of the beautiful people in the picture who were watching her show to people in her news room. If you add up all of the time it takes for all of those things, other missing children photos could have been shown. How about playing the entire video of Caylee singing instead of just parts of it and cutting it off short. SHAME ON NANCY GRACE.

I don't know about this. NG is a bit nutty, but she's the biggest victim advocate on tv. IMO she is a victim champion and far from disrespectful as you are claiming. I can see why people don't like NG, but to say that is disrespectful to Caylee is false IMO.

Cheers!

[WillowInFlight]

They wont say just that they ARE GETTING PAID.. They signed a contract saying the would not tell who was paying them

Right, and we don't know that Lee lied, maybe he is doing pro bono.

[stef]

Wow, thats a great question. You think Cindy was stealing them from work? Wouldnt that be a nail in Casey's coffin; if Cindy brought home bags from work...and Casey used one...

I have known people that work at medical places that seem to end up with a whole lot of stuff in their house that looks like what they use at work. It just makes me think, maybe the bag is grey, like the meter reader said, I know one of the other posters mentioned their work used grey bags.

[WillowInFlight]

I don't know about this. NG is a bit nutty, but she's the biggest victim advocate on tv. IMO she is a victim champion and far from disrespectful as you are claiming. I can see why people don't like NG, but to say that is disrespectful to Caylee is false IMO.

Cheers!

ITA, I don't think she was one bit disrespectful.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Larry King just asked Mark Lunsford how it could be that LE got a tip about "a body or a skull" and didn't do anything?

I think LE had better straighten this out sooner rather than later. So much disinformation!!


IMO, LE incident reports, crimeline tips and audio radio calls will become public very soon.
jmo

[bchand]

IIRC ML made the same offer months ago on a radio show and even provided his phone number over the airwaves but the A's choose other supporters.
jmo

Bad decision on their part. Remember when Scott Peterson stood up John Walsh too?

Very telling who they choose to be their confidants.

[Eli]

This may have been discussed on the earlier thread, but I feel like NG was disrepectful tonight. There is a time and place for everything. Her show is supposed to be for the victims, not a time to brag about gifts and her twins. I have no problem with her Baby Blog on her website, that is the place for the photos. If and it's a big IF the Anthonys were watching tonight, it would have been a slap in the face to them to see her bragging about earrings from her twins. We all know the twins didn't go out and buy them. Also I don't like the Happy Birthday announcements and all of the good looking people in other places. Those things take up precious time. Nancy went from sounding like she was in tears for Caylee while remembering the fallen soldier to gleefully naming off all of the beautiful people in the picture who were watching her show to people in her news room. If you add up all of the time it takes for all of those things, other missing children photos could have been shown. How about playing the entire video of Caylee singing instead of just parts of it and cutting it off short. SHAME ON NANCY GRACE.

Nancy is practically the only truthful, honest person on any of these shows...and she has Heart.....she did a beautiful tribute tonight to Caylee...must we always be so critical of EVERYONE...

[bluwaters]

Gosh, I have no idea.....

Months ago when the cameras were on the house 24/7, I noticed the tree in the front yard was always droopy, all the time..Like it was so sad..
I just looked and the tree doesn't look like it did then...
Maybe even the tree is glad she was found...:rose:
and the hibiscus out back is very relieved ...

[gaelicpeas]

Sweetly KathyReich just said they were getting paid but singed a contract that they couldn't tell who was paying them....HL LIED!! Oh I sure hope PROSCUETION uses this against him....
I was watching this, and suddenly all my power went off. I felt like it was a message from above.

[kellabeck]

hey kellabeck!! the official explanation i heard this afternoon is that LE was overwhelmed with tips around that time and it was just one of many, many that came in.

still, the proximity to the Anthony house should have raised some red flags, ya think?

dini

We have not heard the full story of exactly what transpired. I think that a reasonable explanation can be made considering that LE got inundated with tips, yes. We don't know it was the same bag he saw in August. Only Nancy Grace said that. And we don't know that he reported "a stinking bag." That was Geraldo's invention. Larry King went further to say Kronk called in "a body" or "a skull" and LE didn't pay attention.

Pretty soon we will be hearing from Jayne Weintraub that Kronk found a blinking neon light that said CAYLEE'S BODY HERE with a big arrow. And that was ignored too. Just wait.

[Eli]

We have not heard the full story of exactly what transpired. I think that a reasonable explanation can be made considering that LE got inundated with tips, yes. We don't know it was the same bag he saw in August. Only Nancy Grace said that. And we don't know that he reported "a stinking bag." That was Geraldo's invention. Larry King went further to say Kronk called in "a body" or "a skull" and LE didn't pay attention.

Pretty soon we will be hearing from Jayne Weintraub that Kronk found a blinking neon light that said CAYLEE'S BODY HERE with a big arrow. And that was ignored too. Just wait.


i believe you are correct...:biggrin:

[Mayasmimi]

hey my long lost first board pal......it's dini and i've moved back to Texas!! i hear things are really bad out your way economy wise.

and kellabeck and barskin too!! are you all following PS2? i've lost all interest in it.


Awe doll!!!!!!! Have wondered about you. So happy to see you, too. Yeah.....very, very bad here. I wanna go home. Completely over Arizona.

That said.....I don't think I've been so sad since the days the bodies of Laci and Connor were found. I simply cannot fathom these murders. I am, again, heartbroken. How do people do this to people they "LOVE"? Wonder if Stacey Peterson will ever be found? Just amazing. My eyes are filled with tears. So sad.

[bchand]

and the hibiscus out back is very relieved ...


lolol blu - good one.

[kellabeck]

LK: Since the area was flooded, Dr Kobilinksky, could we be looking at a drowning here?

I laughed out loud.:w00t:

[summer4meplz]

I'm sure I'm not the only one seeing lenny walking back and forth in front of the memorial...behind the larryking guy.......

did lee park on the sidewalk in front of the anthonys? Was he afraid someone might try to honor Caylee....

[Rayosunshine]

I wonder what color garbage bags they use at Gentiva health...


They probably have many large well marked Biohazard bags. Office garbage cans probably have thin clear bags, or none at all.

[WillowInFlight]

LK: Since the area was flooded, Dr Kobilinksky, could we be looking at a drowning here?

I laughed out loud.:w00t:

I was like WTH, does this man think before he opens his mouth, Did she drown???? OMG, I wonder how he thinks she got in the bag.

[summer4meplz]

The Identification is back ...........whos prints were on that TAPE!

wow....where did you hear that?

[AnnInOhio]

Neffy I did read last night that a multimillionaire was actually funding her case, anonymously. They did not want to be Identified.
:no:

Then Henry Lee's correct response should have been "I'm being paid by a source who wishes to remain anonymous." Something not right here.

[Neffy]

Right, and we don't know that Lee lied, maybe he is doing pro bono.


And now lying that he is getting paid? Either he is or isn't.

Did I misread that someone stated he is getting paid but signed a confidentiality statement that he wouldn't tell who was funding it?

If true who would anonymously donate that kind of cash. I can't believe the Anthony's made any deals that would cover these overpaid pot stirrers.

[Mayasmimi]

I don't know about this. NG is a bit nutty, but she's the biggest victim advocate on tv. IMO she is a victim champion and far from disrespectful as you are claiming. I can see why people don't like NG, but to say that is disrespectful to Caylee is false IMO.

Cheers!

Absolutely agree. I can see why some don't care for her, but I get her. Maybe it's the Georgia thing we share. Southerners get Southerners....maybe. I love Nancy!

[Jeepers]

She kept the CSI people there for eight days on their hands and knees. I hope she visits her mom in jail a couple of times to let her know she's stronger than mom thought.

I hope she puts Casey on her hands and knees too!

[WillowInFlight]

I KNOW!!! Honestly, I forgot how goofy he could be. He got on my last nerve during Peterson. Ironically, Mark Geragos is a sweetheart tonight. He even looks handsome? Are we in the bizarro world?

Did you just use Mark and handsome in the same sentence? :laugh:

[AbbyNormal]

I wonder what color garbage bags they use at Gentiva health...Good question.

[Mayasmimi]

Funny question just now on LKL....Will Casey crack? Heck no. Never. Guilty as all get out IMO. She will never crack. Female version of Scott Peterson. Pure as driven snow....dontcha know?

[stef]

Regarding the man who found the remains, Padilla also told News 13 (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/19/utility_worker_who_found_remains_expected_to_talk. html) "I don't think there was one meter reader acting alone."

LP
good grief:w00t:

a gang of meter readers??????

[warhorse46]

I cried when I heard the news that they confirmed the bones to be Caylee's. I was certain that this was her when the news broke that they found the body of a child in the area and the actions of the defense made it even more inevitable but something about it being confirmed just grabbed me by the heart.

I know I am in the minority here when it comes to sympathy for George and Cindy Anthony but I can't help it.

:crying: This little icon does't look much like it's crying but it's the closest I could come to it.



I think the ID confirmation has touched everyone. I noticed Dr. G's voice quivered when she announced the positive ID of Caylee. And the Sheriff teared up once when he spoke.

[WillowInFlight]

And now lying that he is getting paid? Either he is or isn't.

Did I misread that someone stated he is getting paid but signed a confidentiality statement that he wouldn't tell who was funding it?

If true who would anonymously donate that kind of cash. I can't believe the Anthony's made any deals that would cover these overpaid pot stirrers.

The woman said she signed a confidentiality statement, she never said Lee was getting paid that I heard.

[AnnInOhio]

They probably have many large well marked Biohazard bags. Office garbage cans probably have thin clear bags, or none at all.

Any chance the biohazard bags help "insulate" against odor? Maybe explain why no neighbors noticed smell. Casey may have transferred her from her trunk to one of the biohazard bags in the back yard, hence the two "hits" the dogs found there. Probably would not be an easy task.

[Neffy]

Neffy I did read last night that a multimillionaire was actually funding her case, anonymously. They did not want to be Identified.
:no:


Ok just saw this. UNBELIEVABLE! I hope these guys are asked on the stand how much they are being paid. I know I've seen that asked in court. I don't recall if it was ever asked while on the stand who was paying them and if they're obliged to answer.

Anyone know?

[kellabeck]

I was like WTH, does this man think before he opens his mouth, Did she drown???? OMG, I wonder how he thinks she got in the bag.

Obviously she got into the bag after she put herself into the trunk! And THEN she took herself to the woods and threw herself into the bushes.

[SwFlorida]

I'm starting to wonder if all of us should lawyer up! Seriously though, anyone closely connected to Casey should have an attorney. I don't understand why the FOX webcam is still haunting the Anthonys? What is that anyone thinks they are going to do now or where they are going to go? Is the media just camping out to jump on them immediately when they open a door? I may not agree with a lot of things they have said and done in the past but I believe they have a right to privacy escpecially during this time.
ITA with your post..Its time for the cam to go away..

Who's truck is in the driveway?

[MoonFlwr]

I missed the car movement on the live webcam....whose truck is that in the Anthony driveway now? TIA :)

[Mayasmimi]

I'm starting to wonder if all of us should lawyer up! Seriously though, anyone closely connected to Casey should have an attorney. I don't understand why the FOX webcam is still haunting the Anthonys? What is that anyone thinks they are going to do now or where they are going to go? Is the media just camping out to jump on them immediately when they open a door? I may not agree with a lot of things they have said and done in the past but I believe they have a right to privacy escpecially during this time.

I don't think they'll get any privacy until after the verdict is rendered. They can thank "beautiful". I cannot imagine what they are going through. Guess we won't be seeing/hearing any more jail conversations between them and "beautiful". That's a good thing.:sad:

[Cury-us Coyote]

Regarding the man who found the remains, Padilla also told News 13 (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/19/utility_worker_who_found_remains_expected_to_talk. html) "I don't think there was one meter reader acting alone."


good grief:w00t:

a gang of meter readers??????

Is Lenny suggesting a gang of meter readers? How many people must insult LP before he gets the message?

Seriously tho, who is benefiting from LP's unending theories? TIA

[Neffy]

Any chance the biohazard bags help "insulate" against odor? Maybe explain why no neighbors noticed smell. Casey may have transferred her from her trunk to one of the biohazard bags in the back yard, hence the two "hits" the dogs found there. Probably would not be an easy task.

From my understanding the smell from the car was horrific. Nothing said by the neighbors regarding that either. Thankfully I don't have any first hand knowledge on how far this could permeate the air or how long it lasts.

[CNTM]

The Identification is back ...........whos prints were on that TAPE!
Don't leave us hanging! What and where?

[Mayasmimi]

LK: Since the area was flooded, Dr Kobilinksky, could we be looking at a drowning here?

I laughed out loud.:w00t:

I threw up a little in my mouth.

[SwFlorida]

Regarding the man who found the remains, Padilla also told News 13 (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/19/utility_worker_who_found_remains_expected_to_talk. html) "I don't think there was one meter reader acting alone."

LP
good grief:w00t:

a gang of meter readers??????

OMG A meter reader conspiratally (sp) :w00t:

[WillowInFlight]

Is Lenny suggesting a gang of meter readers? How many people must insult before he gets the message?

Seriously tho, who is benefiting from LP's unending theories? TIA

Lenny needs to go home, I am getting so sick of his theories. He hears bits and pieces and then runs with it.

[stef]

Is Lenny suggesting a gang of meter readers? How many people must insult before he gets the message?

Seriously tho, who is benefiting from LP's unending theories? TIA

That is what I keep saying, I will say this, he is clever, lots of people take as fact things he says. I am so tired of his insistance on the duct tape after death and chloroform just an accident crap, I want to smack him. Oh, Jose baez would never touch Casey in the wrong way, too.
The dude was in town for what two weeks, and we first learned from him casey never said a word to him, not even thank you...

[Rayosunshine]

Those bags are RED..its the law . The other bags are the thinnest cheapest around ,would never hold 35lbs even doubled up.

Our bags are semi clear with large red biohazard markings on them.

[bluwaters]

Regarding the man who found the remains, Padilla also told News 13 (http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/19/utility_worker_who_found_remains_expected_to_talk. html) "I don't think there was one meter reader acting alone."

LP
good grief:w00t:

a gang of meter readers??????
*snort*:blink:
from your link:
Nieves wouldn't comment about a book found at the scene that resembled a book Caylee was reading in a home video.

[kellabeck]

From my understanding the smell from the car was horrific. Nothing said by the neighbors regarding that either. Thankfully I don't have any first hand knowledge on how far this could permeate the air or how long it lasts.

The smell from a leak of fluid from a decomposing body in the rug of a TRUNK of a CAR, a very tightly closed space, I can imagine is much stronger than what the body gave off in the open air of a woods.

That's just logical to me.

[MalloryCat]

great answer a question with a question....Lets see Lee wouldn't give DNA without court order Lee wouldn't give fingerprints without a court order..Umm Why would Lee need a criminal Attorney? Maybe he's got something he's worried about too...Not Killing Caylee but maybe helping casey get rid of things off the computer...You think this could be a possibility?? Destroying evidence.....Tampering with evidence? Hindering a criminal investigation. You think someone who did all that would need a criminal Attorney?

With Lee, I think he did what he did because he wanted Casey to know he was still believing in her, and his discompliance would pizz her off.

I think if there was anyone else involved Casey would have saved her butt by narking Lee or anyone else out.

We question their questioning of LE, well, didn't George used to be LE?

Maybe he tainted the family by saying the LE frames people and is no good, disgruntled over his loss of job, if thats what happened? who knows what these kids grew up listening to?

[MoonFlwr]

Lenny needs to go home, I am getting so sick of his theories. He hears bits and pieces and then runs with it.


He sounds like the people I work with! :tongue:

[Findtheperp]

IMO, Nancy Grace is the Jerry Springer of primetime.. to keep viewers.. and ratings high she uses the same techniques..Most of her lead in's are things we all knew before, by being users of this board and viewing LINKS, but others might not have. I feel grateful to her for keeping this case in the public's attention. I am thankful Caylee's remains have been identified but personally feel no closure.. I am nothing more than a spectator... How will the family ever deal with the death of their granddaughter under these circumstances.. along with their deceptions and lies on behalf of Casey at the expense of their grandaughter..now knowing she was decomposing within a short distance from their home. I feel for all involved.. LE, ME, and the Grandparents. I don't feel for Casey.. May she rot in HeQQ..

[rbrnmw]

LK: Since the area was flooded, Dr Kobilinksky, could we be looking at a drowning here?

I laughed out loud.:w00t:

LK has dementia LOL

[stef]

Those bags are RED..its the law . The other bags are the thinnest cheapest around ,would never hold 35lbs even doubled up.

When my son broke his leg, they put his cast (after removing it) in a large grey bag for us to take home. Like I wanted that thing, lol, it stunk.

[Mayasmimi]

I think the ID confirmation has touched everyone. I noticed Dr. G's voice quivered when she announced the positive ID of Caylee. And the Sheriff teared up once when he spoke.

I noticed too. They are so heavily invested in this case. They love Caylee. I feel so awful for them.

[Sweetly]

Ok, catching the re-run of NG. LOL Gloria Alred just said the defense is going to be the "gift that just keeps giving", lol. She definitely has this RIGHT

[rbrnmw]

The smell from a leak of fluid from a decomposing body in the rug of a TRUNK of a CAR, a very tightly closed space, I can imagine is much stronger than what the body gave off in the open air of a woods.

That's just logical to me.

maybe not it was almost 2 months after she died when he reported the first tip

[kellabeck]

That was a good rant, guitar!

[warhorse46]

No cause of death found?

It's hearbreaking that Caylee died, but the "not knowing" how she passed, is adding salt to a very open wound. I hope and pray the FBI can come up with some conclusion.

Bless you Caylee....



Hard to determine a cause of death when all you have are bones. Unless there are tool mark deformities of the bones a cause of death cannot be determined. Since Dr G said cause undetermined we can logically infer there are not gunshot wounds, no stab marks, no blunt force trauma so Caylee did not die of any of those.

[stef]

OMG A meter reader conspiratally (sp) :w00t:

and people wonder why he has an attorney, especialy after Todd Black's statement the other day.:scared:

[MalloryCat]

Most of us have more respect for our animals than Casey had for her child. Her biggest problem is not reporting the crime. When Cindy called 911 Casey actually said why do they want to talk to me. Keep in mind Casey said "I haven't seen my daughter in 31 days. IMO she will go down for murder one for NEVER reporting the loss of her daughter. Even the 911 operator said why are you reporting this now? Why did you wait? Here's my spin. Why did you get a tattoo that translates to a beautiful life? Why did you enter the hot body contest? Why did you steal Amy's checks "in your time of desperation"? Why did you schedule an appointment for another tattoo before Grandma called 911. Why did you call 911 when the protesters were outside your house? Who bailed you out the second time? What kind of financial deal did you make with your attorney? Why was there a decomposing body in your car? Why did you borrow a shovel? Why did you have a nanny if you didn't have a job? Why did you need a sedative when a body was found? Why did you not see your pastor when your daughter was identified? Why did you wear stolen white sunglasses when you visited your attorney? Why did you carry a binder that said "media coverage" instead of a binder that said Caylee sightings? I'm exhausted and going to bed sorry for my rant. As usual it is JMO


I hope you are on the Prosecution team, thats for sure.

[kellabeck]

maybe not it was almost 2 months after she died when he reported the first tip

Oh, absolutely. But someone was asking about neighbors and what they might have noticed.

[Eli]

My sister sent this to me. It was played at a funeral she attended last weekend for a young father who died of cancer. I think it is fitting for today. This is for little Caylee...

Christmas in Heaven

I see the countless CHRISTMAS TREES around the world below
with tiny lights like HEAVEN’S STARS reflecting on the snow.

The sight is so SPECTACULAR please wipe away that tear
for I am spending CHRISTMAS WITH JESUS CHRIST this year.

I hear the many CHRISTMAS SONGS that people hold so dear
but the SOUND OF MUSIC can’t compare with the CHRISTMAS CHOIR up here.

I have no words to tell you of the JOY their voices bring
for it is beyond description to HEAR THE ANGELS SING.

I know HOW MUCH YOU MISS ME, I see the pain inside your heart
for I am spending CHRISTMAS WITH JESUS CHRIST this year.

I can’t tell you of the SPLENDOR or the PEACE here in this place
Can you just imagine CHRISTMAS WITH OUR SAVIOR face to face

I’ll ask him to LIFT YOUR SPIRIT as I tell him of your love
so then PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER as you lift your eyes above.

Please let your HEARTS BE JOYFUL and let your SPIRIT SING
for I am spending CHRISTMAS IN HEAVEN and I’m walking WITH THE KING.

~ by Wanda Bencke

BEAUTIFUL...so touching...so real

[rbrnmw]

Add that to the lenny file.

leave it to Lenny to come up with a humdinger like that:w00t:

[Mayasmimi]

great answer a question with a question....Lets see Lee wouldn't give DNA without court order Lee wouldn't give fingerprints without a court order..Umm Why would Lee need a criminal Attorney? Maybe he's got something he's worried about too...Not Killing Caylee but maybe helping casey get rid of things off the computer...You think this could be a possibility?? Destroying evidence.....Tampering with evidence? Hindering a criminal investigation. You think someone who did all that would need a criminal Attorney?

If you are right....and I think you might be....his dumb behind better lawyer up. Odd....the women in that family seem to have been a tad bit controlling of the men. Just me? Horrible.

[bchand]

Add that to the lenny file.

MY Lenny file is larger than Cindy's notebook.

What a duffus.

[WillowInFlight]

On the way home tonight I saw a bright speck in the sky, I asked my hubby if it was a star or a plane, he said as low and as bright as it was it was probably a planet, I told him it was Caylee.:sad:

[MoonFlwr]

I have a fantasy I want to share.


I want an interview with Casey ,bet no one else in the world dreams of this but I :biggrin:


I want her opinion of how she thinks she became like she is .


I want to hear her thoughts ,I want in her MIND , they need to do a STAT EEG and MRI with contrast at the same time that they are doing the EEG !:scared:

She will say.."Became like WHAT?"

[Missti]

QUOTE=SwFlorida;12562071]OMG A meter reader conspiratally (sp) :w00t:[/QUOTE]

I am curious what the gang color is for meter readers....


Actually - just catching up (just got home....) and just wanted to say Thank you to all you faithful posters here. I don't often have time to be here, and it is so great to long on - get so much information in such a short time and feel like I am all caught up again.

My prayers to all the posters who are feeling the pain of the recent events...these have been a long five months and I sure can hear the pain and sadness in the posts.

I continue to pray for sweet little Caylee...or newest little Angel - and I sure hope she knows how much she is Loved.


Rest in Peace Sweetie :rose:

[tmw]

I have a fantasy I want to share.


I want an interview with Casey ,bet no one else in the world dreams of this but I :biggrin:


I want her opinion of how she thinks she became like she is .


I want to hear her thoughts ,I want in her MIND , they need to do a STAT EEG and MRI with contrast at the same time that they are doing the EEG !:scared:


I would think there are many many journalists (and sciencetists) would like to have this interview for the same reasons.

[rbrnmw]

Oh, absolutely. But someone was asking about neighbors and what they might have noticed.

Oh sorry these boards are zooming

[kellabeck]

leave it Lenny to come up with a humdinger like that:w00t:

He just pulls them out of his..........hat.:rolleyes:

[Mayasmimi]

Is Lenny suggesting a gang of meter readers? How many people must insult LP before he gets the message?

Seriously tho, who is benefiting from LP's unending theories? TIA

LP....only.

[PolyGraph]

Hearing the news today I knew what to expect but hearing it is a different story, I just watched the rerun of NG and was not home all day and I have been crying ever since I saw it, my heart breaks for this child who was never given a chance to grow up, its so awful. I really felt bad for Cindy and George too, I dont care what anyone on here says.

Please someone tell me if its just me Or is something seriously wrong with the fact that this tipster reported this in august and no one did anything??? Heres the questions I have about this...and I wish the tipster could answer them but Im sure he is not on here.

1. Why did the tipster not go crazy trying to get someone out to the scene if he saw a bag which could have had a body in it?????? Even though he called and reported this the first time, what did he do afterwards, go home and eat dinner? Didnt the thought that the bag sitting out there maybe holding the body of a child bother him???? I would have gone bozo trying to find out who it was, (i would have gone down to the police station and sat there until someone answered me and went to the crime scene and found out what it was!!! But months and months of lost evidence went by....and I dont know how aniyone could have sat on that knowledge....bewildering....

2. Why did the police not follow up on the tip the first time if it was so close to Caylees home???? How could they let that slide? no excuse in mybook, a million tips or not that would have been a good searching spot. I had posted MONTHS ago , maybe back in july or august (anyone can go back and read my post if they would like) that the police should ask Caseys friends where she used to hang out in the woods because that is probably the most likey place she burried the body, Im not even an investigator (although maybe in my head I am) and I said that months and months ago. Maybe in a few posts. The old hangout was the place where she would have been familiar with the area...

3. The final thing that gets me about this case is....how can reporters still be camped out in front of the Anthony's home, let them grieve for goodness sakes. Sicko People...all for the media attention, it just makes them look like a bunch of ...(nevermind do not want to get banned).

Sorry If I sound angry tonight its because I am. This should have never happened to an innocent child. :sad:

[AnnInOhio]

Those bags are RED..its the law . The other bags are the thinnest cheapest around ,would never hold 35lbs even doubled up.

You're right about red for biohazard. These aren't biohazard, but would certainly hold 35 lbs.
http://www.interplas.com/poly-bags-can-liners/CLSHG

[WillowInFlight]

Did Baez make a statement today? Missed every PC but the Coroners. if any links could you send them my way Thanks.

I know Conway made a statement, never heard anything from Baez.

[MoonFlwr]

Missti: lol! at your meter-readers gang colours question! :smile:

[Jeepers]

Lenny needs to go home, I am getting so sick of his theories. He hears bits and pieces and then runs with it.

If he wants to tell his theories that is ok with me, but I would like to know his complete theory. Why does he think the tape was put on after death. I don't think Casey would go to all that trouble after the fact. I just see her dumping and running. Why does he want to say she dumped Caylee around the time she encountered George over the gas cans? I think if true, the tape being over her mouth was done when Casey was killing her. I don't think she did the tape to stop leakage of body fluids that to me would be taping holes in the bag not the baby.
Lab reports say Caylee appeared to be in the trunk 2.5 days if she just put Caylee to sleep with drugs or cholorform so she could stay with Tone the 16th maybe Caylee was still alive and just in the trunk. She drugged her so much in the coming days and finally killed her then I could see Lenny's take on dumping her on a much later date.

[MalloryCat]

I know Conway made a statement, never heard anything from Baez.

Baez said today its going to be up to the courts if Casey gets to attend the funeral.

barf

[warhorse46]

I noticed too. They are so heavily invested in this case. They love Caylee. I feel so awful for them.


Their reactions show me they are compassionate people, shedding tears for a small innocent dead baby girl while they search for the truth. Unlike some I have seen during this case who's tears seem to be of the selfish nature.

[Missti]

I was just watching the clips from shows earlier and on one it was mentioned (dont' remember which now) that they believe that Caylee's body has been at that site since her death.

I just wonder...what would Casey have said IF they had found her before those 31 days were passed and her mother found out she was missing?? What if she was found and Casey hadn't even reported her missing yet?

How bizarre. Everything in this case is bizarre.

I seems that the only people who think Casey didn't do this is her family, and her Defense team - although I wonder if her lawyers think she is innocent, or are just doing their job in defending her actions.

[WillowInFlight]

Baez lashing out at LE coming up next on Greta.

[rbrnmw]

He just pulls them out of his..........hat.:rolleyes:
yes he does, someone told me Greta told him he was strange. I would have loved to have seen that

[Mayasmimi]

Did Baez make a statement today? Missed every PC but the Coroners. if any links could you send them my way Thanks.

He did. Pissy about the way the news was delievered to Casey. As the closest survivor she should have been informed before anyone else.....Yeah....whatever. I was screaming in my own head.

[Missti]

Missti: lol! at your meter-readers gang colours question! :smile:


Mauve with little white stitched on name tags :rolleyes:

[stef]

Could the state play Kobe's drowning statement in court, if he comes up with a different COD???

[WillowInFlight]

Baez said today its going to be up to the courts if Casey gets to attend the funeral.

barf

After all the money spent so far on this case, they won't spring to pay for extra security for her to attend. IMO.

[PolyGraph]

I have a fantasy I want to share.


I want an interview with Casey ,bet no one else in the world dreams of this but I :biggrin:


I want her opinion of how she thinks she became like she is .


I want to hear her thoughts ,I want in her MIND , they need to do a STAT EEG and MRI with contrast at the same time that they are doing the EEG !:scared: People we all know too well should have asked those questions way before this ever happened....

[MalloryCat]

I was just watching the clips from shows earlier and on one it was mentioned (dont' remember which now) that they believe that Caylee's body has been at that site since her death.

I just wonder...what would Casey have said IF they had found her before those 31 days were passed and her mother found out she was missing?? What if she was found and Casey hadn't even reported her missing yet?

How bizarre. Everything in this case is bizarre.

I seems that the only people who think Casey didn't do this is her family, and her Defense team - although I wonder if her lawyers think she is innocent, or are just doing their job in defending her actions.

Well, I think Cindy still would have went nuts and called the cops had the body been found so close to her home and she had not seen Caylee. And it would have been the same story with Casey.

[SwFlorida]

Baez said today its going to be up to the courts if Casey gets to attend the funeral.

barf
If Casey is allowed to go how many here thinks she will go? She may think it would be a waste, a huge waste.

[bchand]

Did Baez make a statement today? Missed every PC but the Coroners. if any links could you send them my way Thanks.


Oh yeah, Jose made a statement.

http://www.wesh.com/video/18320223/index.html

[barskin&co.]

Baez lashing out at LE coming up next on Greta.

Talk about a one-trick pony.

[SandyO]

Did Baez make a statement today? Missed every PC but the Coroners. if any links could you send them my way Thanks.

Baez stated, "You don't know half the story. You don't." He stated again that it would all be brought out at trial. I almost can't stand it that if there's some secret we don't know about and which will make Casey look better, and the actual trial may be a year or two away, WHY IN GOD'S NAME IS HE WAITING?

[kellabeck]

yes he does, someone told me Greta told him he was strange. I would have loved to have seen that

She did. I saw that. It was... awkward!!

[Cury-us Coyote]

Brad Conway's Statement for A's

"As everyone now knows, the remains recovered off Suburban Drive are those of Caylee Marie Anthony. The Anthony family did not give up hope that Caylee was still alive until we were notified by the Orange County Sheriff's Office at approximately 1:30pm today. The Anthonys want to thank you for your prayers and best wishes that have been said on behalf of Caylee. They now know that their precious granddaughter is safe and hope that she will serve as the angel that protects thousands of missing children and their families. Please continue your prayers for Caylee, the Anthonys and the families that still hope and pray that their children will be found. We would like to thank crime scene investigators for their exhaustive efforts. The Anthonys want the same answers as everyone who has been assigned to investigate and prosecute this case. In an effort to determine the truth, the Anthony family will be available to law enforcement as the investigation continues. As you can imagine, the Anthonys are grieving deeply about this loss. Please respect their privacy and understand they will stand together as a family in order to get through this. Your thoughts and prayers are welcome, but they also ask that you pray for the families who have lost a child under any circumstances. This is a tragic moment in the lives of good and honorable people. Please treat them respectfully so they can grieve with dignity over the loss of this precious child, Caylee Marie Anthony."
http://www.wftv.com/news/18318370/detail.html

[PrimeSuspect210]

At least Geragos knows that COD is not necessary to a conviction.
Yeah .... that and "Beyond a reasonable doubt".

[MalloryCat]

If Casey is allowed to go how many here thinks she will go? She may think it would be a waste, a huge waste.

Lets hope the Judge says, In your Dreams!

She isn't going, no one wants her there, no one.

[jammies]

was there a statement made by the A's today?

I went to the links thread but didn't find anything.

[kellabeck]

Baez stated, "You don't know half the story. You don't." He stated again that it would all be brought out at trial. I almost can't stand it that if there's some secret we don't know about and which will make Casey look better, and the actual trial may be a year or two away, WHY IN GOD'S NAME IS HE WAITING?

Um...he's hoping to think of something before then.

[gaelicpeas]

I know Conway made a statement, never heard anything from Baez.
Baez spoke to reporters.. I will go look for a link..

[MoonFlwr]

If Casey is allowed to go how many here thinks she will go? She may think it would be a waste, a huge waste.


I am assuming she'd go on the advice of her defence team - if she is granted the right.

[Mayasmimi]

Their reactions show me they are compassionate people, shedding tears for a small innocent dead baby girl while they search for the truth. Unlike some I have seen during this case who's tears seem to be of the selfish nature.


Hey doll. It's been a long time. Yep. I'm sincerely sad tonight. I know you are, too. Hugs sweetie. Caylee is safe now.

[bluwaters]

Most of us have more respect for our animals than Casey had for her child. Her biggest problem is not reporting the crime. <regretfully snipped> I'm exhausted and going to bed sorry for my rant. As usual it is JMO

Wow! That was really good. :thumbup:

[kellabeck]

I'm sick of hearing how sloppy policework got Simpson off. That jury wanted to acquit Simpson. Why would Casey's jury want to give her sorry azz a break?

[AbbyNormal]

Well, I think Cindy still would have went nuts and called the cops had the body been found so close to her home and she had not seen Caylee. And it would have been the same story with Casey.You know a lot about this case. Why do you think CA waited to call LE when she knew Caylee was missing as early as July 3rd?

[PolyGraph]

Baez stated, "You don't know half the story. You don't." He stated again that it would all be brought out at trial. I almost can't stand it that if there's some secret we don't know about and which will make Casey look better, and the actual trial may be a year or two away, WHY IN GOD'S NAME IS HE WAITING?

My oppinion only is baez already knows whats going on (or he knows the lies casey already told him lets put it that way) so he is not going to say those things (my oppinion she told him some accidental death theory, pool drowning etc) until he is forced too, he is going with the zanny the nanny story until it comes out with all the evidence agaisnt casey then he is going to go with the "accidental death theory" because the jury will never by the zanny story...my oppinion only, he knows what he is doing.

[bluwaters]

Tell it on Open Court.
The OP wanted to know why the officer didn't shoot the snake which is why I thought it was on topic
Sorry to cause offense.

[gaelicpeas]

If Casey is allowed to go how many here thinks she will go? She may think it would be a waste, a huge waste.
Good question. I have been wondering if she will show up for the trial. Don't defendants have a choice regarding that? I know most defendants do show up, but I just get the feeling she may opt out (on her lawyer's advice).

JMO

[AnnInOhio]

From my understanding the smell from the car was horrific. Nothing said by the neighbors regarding that either. Thankfully I don't have any first hand knowledge on how far this could permeate the air or how long it lasts.

I'm thinking when Casey began to realize she had to do something when the body in the trunk because it was beginning to smell, she went home to get a heavy weight grey bag and transferred the body to a heavier bag. Perhaps the day the neighbor saw her car backed into the garage. Perhaps she initially thought she could bury it in the back yard (too much work; wouldn't want her to ruin a manicure.) She probably gave up on that plan and drove down the street and pitched her in a hurry. The smell in the trunk got steadily worse because of the body fluids that had leaked. Sorry to be graphic; the thought of what that baby's body went through makes me ill.

[barskin&co.]

I'm sick of hearing how sloppy policework got Simpson off. That jury wanted to acquit Simpson. Why would Casey's jury want to give her sorry azz a break?

Exactly right. The OJ criminal trial jury was deperate for any excuse to acquit him. TotMom®'s jury will probabl bemore inclined in the opposite direction.

[rbrnmw]

Missti: lol! at your meter-readers gang colours question! :smile:

next thing Geragos will hear that and say they were in a brown van then Jayne Weintraub will say maybe Caylee was playing in the garbage bags,
defense attorney's should shut up at least for tonightbarf

[PolyGraph]

I am assuming she'd go on the advice of her defence team - if she is granted the right. I betcha she will not go, and face up to what she did, but he rand her attorney will muster up the excuse "her safety is at stake".

[bchand]

was there a statement made by the A's today?

I went to the links thread but didn't find anything.

See it now jammies? 2 posts above yours.

[SwFlorida]

Baez stated, "You don't know half the story. You don't." He stated again that it would all be brought out at trial. I almost can't stand it that if there's some secret we don't know about and which will make Casey look better, and the actual trial may be a year or two away, WHY IN GOD'S NAME IS HE WAITING?
Waiting because that script isn't written yet??:shrug:

[RJ1]

Ok just saw this. UNBELIEVABLE! I hope these guys are asked on the stand how much they are being paid. I know I've seen that asked in court. I don't recall if it was ever asked while on the stand who was paying them and if they're obliged to answer.

Anyone know?

I think they can be compelled to tell how much they are being paid, but I don't know if they can be compelled to tell by whom they are being paid.

[True2Blues]

I came home today and just sat here. For two hours. I did not turn on the TV I didnt log online. I just sat here. I was certain when I logged in I would not find good news. Certain.
I logged in and watched Dr G and the press conferences, pieces of them.

Then I turned on the news and there was Dr G and that was it I started to just break down. Months of reading things in this case, terrible things and months of not eating and sleeping and feeling upset.

I feel terrible for the great grandparents. This is going to be terrible for her GGmother to take. Just terrible. I feel terrible too.
:rose:

I saw something that said the GGrandparents weren't doing well when they heard Caylee was missing, this will be devastating for them. I feel so sorry for them too.

[Mayasmimi]

I came home today and just sat here. For two hours. I did not turn on the TV I didnt log online. I just sat here. I was certain when I logged in I would not find good news. Certain.
I logged in and watched Dr G and the press conferences, pieces of them.

Then I turned on the news and there was Dr G and that was it I started to just break down. Months of reading things in this case, terrible things and months of not eating and sleeping and feeling upset.

I feel terrible for the great grandparents. This is going to be terrible for her GGmother to take. Just terrible. I feel terrible too.
:rose:

Oh....so sorry. I know. I can't stand much more either.

[Jeepers]

He did. Pissy about the way the news was delievered to Casey. As the closest survivor she should have been informed before anyone else.....Yeah....whatever. I was screaming in my own head.

But Mr. Baez, Casey knew it before LE did. She just would not tell anyone else. What was there to tell Casey. She had everyone up in arms for months. I cannot believe she could look in her parents eyes and ramble on with the lies. How can anyone enjoy being so cruel to someone in such pain and disbelief. I am so hoping Cindy and George realize how evil, spiteful this daughter of theirs really is and go after her at trial holding nothing back.

[WillowInFlight]

I betcha she will not go, and face up to what she did, but he rand her attorney will muster up the excuse "her safety is at stake".

YEP, Baez is going to spin this to make Casey look like the victim. I find that disgusting.

[RJ1]

Why would Lee need a criminal Attorney? Maybe he's got something he's worried about too...

~quote snipped~

Maybe he reads message boards ... that should do it.

[PrimeSuspect210]

Waiting because that script isn't written yet??:shrug:Oh, it's written. Predetermined.

[JainDough]

I'm so confused about this bag the meter reader saw. I heard it was a gray bag......and yet I thought I heard Caylee's remains were found in a brown bag. Was one put inside the other one or were they two separate bags?

[MichelleP]

Baez stated, "You don't know half the story. You don't." He stated again that it would all be brought out at trial. I almost can't stand it that if there's some secret we don't know about and which will make Casey look better, and the actual trial may be a year or two away, WHY IN GOD'S NAME IS HE WAITING?

That sounds very familar, is that something he said before?

[PolyGraph]

I have to add that I agree and to further ask............We know the body in the bag was OFF the road in thw woods ,doen in a gulley of sorts under a palmeto bush , how did he see this from the road?

Okay if he took his pee there the first time ...that could answer , but as you say ---------- Why did he call 3 days in a row , think of it , what made him think on the forst day nothing was found , and what were they supposed to have found ? 2ND day he called how did he know nothing was found ..............now on the third day if he knows they are not doing anything HOW does he know this ? I am sorry , bu HOW did he KNOW they were not doing anything and WHY WHY WHY does he keep asking ............good gosh unless he knows if they had checked they would find what they are looking for and because there was NO BREAKING NEWS , he KNEW they did not check .........


I see Caseys guilt ,but DARN , this is very questionable for the reasons stated above and if you don't see it the first time reading it , re read what I said and if you can set me straight , please do ...I am frustrated!

This is EXACTLY my point, even if he called them 40 times, why did he just go home and not DO anything about it, why did he not park himself at law enforcements door? or call the fricken fbi? or call the news media? or somethign I dont know , Icould have never gone home, rested myhead on that pillow at night or slept not knowing what was in the bag.... UNLESS he thought for some reason le had ALREADY checked it out, and when he went there to pee he kicked the bag then the skull fell out, maybe that is what happened :shrug:

[Cury-us Coyote]

ME's Transcript
Dr. Jan Garavaglia's Statement Dec. 19, 2008
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/12/19/dr._jan_garavaglia39s_statement_dec._19_2008.html

[WillowInFlight]

I'm so confused about this bag the meter reader saw. I heard it was a gray bag......and yet I thought I heard Caylee's remains were found in a brown bag. Was one put inside the other one or were they two separate bags?

It was reported that the one bag was put in another.

[MalloryCat]

It was reported that the one bag was put in another.

By LENNY, not credible.

JMO

[MichelleP]

Well he's probably trying to come up with a convincing story.....He doesn't even know what the whole story is going to be yet...That's why he's at the A's house trying to come up with story they can all stick to.
And I"M almost 100% certain we will not hear it from Casey...If there was a "true story" we would have heard it by now.

He's at the Anthony's house? For what? Isn't his client in prison?

[SandyO]

That sounds very familar, is that something he said before?

Yes, and again today. It drives me crazy, but I think the answers I've gotten here are correct.

[AnnInOhio]

This is EXACTLY my point, even if he called them 40 times, why did he just go home and not DO anything about it, why did he not park himself at law enforcements door? or call the fricken fbi? or call the news media? or somethign I dont know , Icould have never gone home, rested myhead on that pillow at night or slept not knowing what was in the bag.... UNLESS he thought for some reason le had ALREADY checked it out, and when he went there to pee he kicked the bag then the skull fell out, maybe that is what happened :shrug:

I'd want to be a good citizen, and would call in a report, but it would take me a while to work up the courage to go up close to look at what I suspect might be a dead body. What the meter reader did makes sense to me. The bag may have been closer to the road in August when he first spotted it and drug to where it was found in December by animals.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Press Release From Todd Black 12/17
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/12/17/press_release_from_todd_black.html

[barskin&co.]

Baez stated, "You don't know half the story. You don't." He stated again that it would all be brought out at trial. I almost can't stand it that if there's some secret we don't know about and which will make Casey look better, and the actual trial may be a year or two away, WHY IN GOD'S NAME IS HE WAITING?

When there is a real, logical, provable exonerating explanation, a people under accusations will not sit in prison silently waiting for a trial. They'll spill it. When it's just criminal defense attorney BS, then you just have to wait until the defendant gets his/her day in court.

[bchand]

~quote snipped~

Maybe he reads message boards ... that should do it.


Or maybe he read witness statements that said his sister is accusing him of improper things?

[Mayasmimi]

Has crime scene been released yet?

Has the nightmare team went into crime scene yet? they were
screaming they wanted in there while FBI, LE, ans CSI was in there. Just wondering if they're there yet?

Last I heard, when I left work, no. Maybe tomorrow. Not the authority. Just what I think I know.

IMO....there will be nothing left for the defense. It's done. It's not looking good for "Mommy".

On the bright side....and we all need a bright side, Caylee is safe now.

[SwFlorida]

Brad Conway's Statement for A's

"As everyone now knows, the remains recovered off Suburban Drive are those of Caylee Marie Anthony. The Anthony family did not give up hope that Caylee was still alive until we were notified by the Orange County Sheriff's Office at approximately 1:30pm today. The Anthonys want to thank you for your prayers and best wishes that have been said on behalf of Caylee. They now know that their precious granddaughter is safe and hope that she will serve as the angel that protects thousands of missing children and their families. Please continue your prayers for Caylee, the Anthonys and the families that still hope and pray that their children will be found. We would like to thank crime scene investigators for their exhaustive efforts. The Anthonys want the same answers as everyone who has been assigned to investigate and prosecute this case. In an effort to determine the truth, the Anthony family will be available to law enforcement as the investigation continues. As you can imagine, the Anthonys are grieving deeply about this loss. Please respect their privacy and understand they will stand together as a family in order to get through this. Your thoughts and prayers are welcome, but they also ask that you pray for the families who have lost a child under any circumstances. This is a tragic moment in the lives of good and honorable people. Please treat them respectfully so they can grieve with dignity over the loss of this precious child, Caylee Marie Anthony."
http://www.wftv.com/news/18318370/detail.html

Thats the scary part. The A's have been standing together.

[WillowInFlight]

I wonder if Cindy and George will visit Casey on Christmas. I am still shocked they didn't rush to her side today when she heard the news.

[PolyGraph]

I'd want to be a good citizen, and would call in a report, but it would take me a while to work up the courage to go up close to look at what I suspect might be a dead body. What the meter reader did makes sense to me. The bag may have been closer to the road in August when he first spotted it and drug to where it was found in December by animals. I understand that fear, but wouldnt you want to know def if le even looked? wouldnt you follow up on that very important finding?? Ive seen things int he woods Like clothes that looked torn and reported it to the police...I cant imagine knowing a child is missing in the area and freaking out over seeing something like that in the woods, plus the book was there too right? I dont know...I just couldnt sit on that....

[JainDough]

It was reported that the one bag was put in another.

So if the meter reader saw a gray bag originally, then someone placed it in a brown bag after that? If that's the case, how did he know it was the same bag? Something's not right here.

[bchand]

That sounds very familar, is that something he said before?

Sure, but he used to add: We believe Caylee is still alive.

He can't use that anymore.

[bchand]

Case being discussed on 20/20. (Teaser said there was a shocking accusation by a new person. Meter reader)

[Duckaroo]

This is EXACTLY my point, even if he called them 40 times, why did he just go home and not DO anything about it, why did he not park himself at law enforcements door? or call the fricken fbi? or call the news media? or somethign I dont know , Icould have never gone home, rested myhead on that pillow at night or slept not knowing what was in the bag.... UNLESS he thought for some reason le had ALREADY checked it out, and when he went there to pee he kicked the bag then the skull fell out, maybe that is what happened :shrug:

One things for sure..just by calling once he did more for Caylee and showed more care for her than her own mother did.

[gaelicpeas]

Heck she won't even go into the court room let alone a funeral..
Wonder if she'll even show up at her own trial...I said the same thing earlier.. will she show up at her own trial? I am beginning to think NO.

[Mayasmimi]

But Mr. Baez, Casey knew it before LE did. She just would not tell anyone else. What was there to tell Casey. She had everyone up in arms for months. I cannot believe she could look in her parents eyes and ramble on with the lies. How can anyone enjoy being so cruel to someone in such pain and disbelief. I am so hoping Cindy and George realize how evil, spiteful this daughter of theirs really is and go after her at trial holding nothing back.

I so agree. My daughter gave birth to my Grandaughter at about the same age. I promise all of you.....If Casey was my daughter....over, done. As much as I love my baby girl, I would never, ever, ever keep this up. Early on, I'd want to believe. I would have given up on my daughter months ago. I am sick. OMG!

[WillowInFlight]

Anyone know if he is still in Orlando, wonder if he ever had dinner with Nejames and the Grunds like he told Greta he was comming here to.

Yes he is still in Florida, he was at the site tonight

[PolyGraph]

When there is a real, logical, provable exonerating explanation, a people under accusations will not sit in prison silently waiting for a trial. They'll spill it. When it's just criminal defense attorney BS, then you just have to wait until the defendant gets his/her day in court.

:thumbsup:EXCELLENT POST! Your sooooo right, when I was accused of kidnapping my OWN children, I told all, I was telling the truth and had NOTHING to hide....and I didnt sit in jail and just wait till my day in trial....I gathered up all of my evidence (and 25 witnesses) I had and fought like heck to get my children back, and guess what, my charges were dropped!!!! and my kiddies are right where they should be, lying next to mommy! When you know you are innocent and you really are the victim, you will scream at the top of your lungs "IM Innocent"!!!!! and no one can stop you!

[stef]

So if the meter reader saw a gray bag originally, then someone placed it in a brown bag after that? If that's the case, how did he know it was the same bag? Something's not right here.

I have never heard of a brown bag, the only one that mentioned a color was Tim Miller and who knows if got the correct info from LE, if it was a gray bag, LE would want to keep that close while they investigate.

[JainDough]

I said the same thing earlier.. will she show up at her own trial? I am beginning to think NO.

I'm just wondering.......if Baez intends to tell the whole story, wouldn't her have to put Casey on the stand to tell it? How else will the story be told?

[RJ1]

Or maybe he read witness statements that said his sister is accusing him of improper things?

That, too.

It is interesting, though, that when an unliked person gets an attorney, he must be guilty of something. When a liked person does, it's to protect the poor soul.

Just saying ...

[WillowInFlight]

One things for sure..just by calling once he did more for Caylee and showed more care for her than her own mother did.

Why did he call 3 times, how did he know after the first or second call that things weren't checked out?

[MalloryCat]

Anyone know if he is still in Orlando, wonder if he ever had dinner with Nejames and the Grunds like he told Greta he was comming here to.

I just want to know when the lie detector test is going to be taken about the bones and toys he found.

[Mayasmimi]

Heck she won't even go into the court room let alone a funeral..
Wonder if she'll even show up at her own trial...

I so hope "Mommy" isn't allowed to attend Caylee's funeral. Please God?

[PolyGraph]

Poly .true........But ------ look at this way ......to have called a week apart , okay. But calling 3 days back to back ........lets ask , had he already looked in the bag and KNEW a skull was there ? Why else would YOU QUESTION and throw out a tip 3 days in a row not KNOWING if anyone had checked ,but more importantly m unless YOU KNOW something important is there to be found and because he heard no discovery of a bag of bones , cause HE KNEW there was a bag of bones ....how can this be written off .he had to have either already looked in the bag and knew there was bones , reason why he called 3 days consecutively and was upset that there was no reports , or he knows more then meets the eye .hey I'm just throwing logic around ..not trying to take up for casey ,but it just does not add up ,I don't care how you paint it.

Keep in MInd 2, we have no idea what was AROUND the bag at the time he saw it, we have no idea what other evidence was present (possibly caylees book right there) etc.... so maybe he was aware it could have def been something, but I digress....I think I would have gone nuts knowing that there was something there and no one was doing a (hoover dam) about it. MOO

[bchand]

I'm just wondering.......if Baez intends to tell the whole story, wouldn't her have to put Casey on the stand to tell it? How else will the story be told?

That would be suicide. I don't know how he's planning on getting his version out.

[JainDough]

Why did he call 3 times, how did he know after the first or second call that things weren't checked out?

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe he rode by there everyday and saw the bag still there?

[stef]

Anyone know if he is still in Orlando, wonder if he ever had dinner with Nejames and the Grunds like he told Greta he was comming here to.

He was at ZG attorney's office today.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Anyone know if he is still in Orlando, wonder if he ever had dinner with Nejames and the Grunds like he told Greta he was comming here to.


Here's Lenny with the Morgan's today - A's depositions allegedly cancelled CF13 video

Bounty Hunter Speaks
http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=WEBPADILLAINSTUDIO_121920080 406&cat=CAC&title=Bounty%20Hunter%20Speaks

[AnnInOhio]

I understand that fear, but wouldnt you want to know def if le even looked? wouldnt you follow up on that very important finding?? Ive seen things int he woods Like clothes that looked torn and reported it to the police...I cant imagine knowing a child is missing in the area and freaking out over seeing something like that in the woods, plus the book was there too right? I dont know...I just couldnt sit on that....

A case as big as this one, that close to their home, I'd assume LE would have looked. He likely didn't see the book; it was probably in the bag with the body. He may have gone back and not seen the bag where he saw it previously and assumed LE moved it. Unfortunately, it was probably drug from its original spot by animals. The bones didn't spread themselves via the wind over that large an area.

[RJ1]

I'm just throwing logic around ..not trying to take up for casey ,but it just does not add up ,I don't care how you paint it.

~quote snipped~

As Gloria Allred said, this tipster situation is a gift to the defense that keeps on giving.

Perhaps, LE and/or the meter reader will provide reasonable explanations for it all, but until then it does evoke a lot of questions.

[JainDough]

That would be suicide. I don't know how he's planning on getting his version out.

I agree, but I'd love to see it.

[WillowInFlight]

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe he rode by there everyday and saw the bag still there?

Then why wait another 4 months to make another call. And why didn't he really force the issue in August, heck he could have went to the media.

[PolyGraph]

A case as big as this one, that close to their home, I'd assume LE would have looked. He likely didn't see the book; it was probably in the bag with the body. He may have gone back and not seen the bag where he saw it previously and assumed LE moved it. Unfortunately, it was probably drug from its original spot by animals. The bones didn't spread themselves via the wind over that large an area.

Great point I didnt think of that. It could have been drug to another location by animals so that maybe he did not see it in the same spot, this will just take time for our question to be answered, Im sure that guy will be doing interviews and tv shows answering all those questions. (cant wait).

[SwFlorida]

Oh I hope they let her see Caylee before they lie her to rest...and I don't mean closed casket with a pretty picture of her...I mean I hope and pray they let, make and force Casey to look at little Caylee's remains and I hope the imagine of her little skeleton will haunt Casey forever.
I don't think it would faze her. MOO

[RJ1]

I wonder if Baez said he won't comment on how Casey is doing or how she reacted because maybe there was no reaction or maybe she acted "normal" and that made him mad that she was upset or remorseful??

That was weird. I fully expected him to say that she was devasted instead of, in effect, "no comment".

[marinewife5]

I so hope "Mommy" isn't allowed to attend Caylee's funeral. Please God?

if she's not allowed, we'll hear whining about how this young mother should be allowed to put her kidnapped child to rest. if she is, she still won't go and they will all blame the media and public for making it impossible for her to mourn in peace at the funeral. either way, i don't see her being there.

jmo

[PolyGraph]

Then why wait another 4 months to make another call. And why didn't he really force the issue in August, heck he could have went to the media.

I just said the exact same thing, I f I thought for one second le was ignoring my tip, I would have called the fbi immediately, then the media if no one did anything about it. but another poster just alerted me to the fact that maybe the body moved and the tipster did think le had already done something about it, so we really cant judge him not knowing all the details, which will surely come out in his future interviews or court. MOO

[Duckaroo]

Why did he call 3 times, how did he know after the first or second call that things weren't checked out?
I dunno..maybe it didn't appear like anyone had checked it out to him like the area/bag hadn't been touched, if it was checked he might expect it to be gone or moved or something or maybe he didn't know and was just wanting to be sure.:shrug:

[Mayasmimi]

I'm just wondering.......if Baez intends to tell the whole story, wouldn't her have to put Casey on the stand to tell it? How else will the story be told?

Please? He won't. Doubt he will even be her Attorney come trial time. Remember Scott Peterson? Let us all hope that the parents don't behave like the Peterson parents. Scott Peterson's parents were pathetic. Mommy Peterson specifically. ALL IMO.

[PolyGraph]

That was weird. I fully expected him to say that she was devasted instead of, in effect, "no comment".

well that is certainly telling isnt it? jeez

[WillowInFlight]

Were these tips called in before or after Casey's cop boyfriend was fired?

[Mamie]

If he wants to tell his theories that is ok with me, but I would like to know his complete theory. Why does he think the tape was put on after death. I don't think Casey would go to all that trouble after the fact. I just see her dumping and running. Why does he want to say she dumped Caylee around the time she encountered George over the gas cans? I think if true, the tape being over her mouth was done when Casey was killing her. I don't think she did the tape to stop leakage of body fluids that to me would be taping holes in the bag not the baby.
Lab reports say Caylee appeared to be in the trunk 2.5 days if she just put Caylee to sleep with drugs or cholorform so she could stay with Tone the 16th maybe Caylee was still alive and just in the trunk. She drugged her so much in the coming days and finally killed her then I could see Lenny's take on dumping her on a much later date.


I wonder if this poor little darling had anything to eat or if she went to sleep hungry----I'm hoping her last memory wasn't I'm so hungry, Mommy.

[PolyGraph]

he was put in another area. he was just sent back to that area . oh i see. but being pu t in another area would not stop that lingering horrid thought in my mind that the bag could have contained a body...MOO

[bchand]

Were these tips called in before or after Casey's cop boyfriend was fired?

Before.....

[Mayasmimi]

if she's not allowed, we'll hear whining about how this young mother should be allowed to put her kidnapped child to rest. if she is, she still won't go and they will all blame the media and public for making it impossible for her to mourn in peace at the funeral. either way, i don't see her being there.

jmo

Yeah. I see it. Whatever.......:cursing:

[anyonesguess]

Then why wait another 4 months to make another call. And why didn't he really force the issue in August, heck he could have went to the media.


It was stated that in Aug 2008 he was assigned that area for meter reading and then reassigned to another area until recently in December.

[True2Blues]

I so hope "Mommy" isn't allowed to attend Caylee's funeral. Please God?

I doubt they'll be letting her out, since her out. Murderers shouldn't be walking the street under any circumstances and the charge is first degree. She's a danger to the community at large.

[barskin&co.]

I'm just wondering.......if Baez intends to tell the whole story, wouldn't her have to put Casey on the stand to tell it? How else will the story be told?

Yep, that's the problem, isn't it? Who else can tell this story that will explain everything but the TotMom®, and she can never, never testify. So just wait until we get to trial, and you'll hear a whole lot of nothin'!

[PolyGraph]

Were these tips called in before or after Casey's cop boyfriend was fired? :eek: OH MY. wouldnt that be something, wonder if it was him who was supposed to investigate???

[AnnInOhio]

if she's not allowed, we'll hear whining about how this young mother should be allowed to put her kidnapped child to rest. if she is, she still won't go and they will all blame the media and public for making it impossible for her to mourn in peace at the funeral. either way, i don't see her being there.

jmo

Casey may insist on an immediate cremation with no funeral. I doubt she'll even allow a 2nd autopsy. She's gone this far; why would she allow her mom to give Caylee a funeral and proper burial if its within Casey's power to deprive her? One more "stick it to her because I can" act.

[WillowInFlight]

It was stated that in Aug 2008 he was assigned that area for meter reading and then reassigned to another area until recently in December.

I don't think that would stop him from doing drivebys

[RJ1]

I agree with you...it's something the state really didn't need...and it does pose a lot of questions and does seem suspicous...however IMO it does not dismiss all of the the prior evidence collected in the case such as Casey's lies, the body in the trunk, etc. In a lot of ways I think Casey convicted herself.

So true. Who can get past Casey not reporting Caylee missing and all the lies she told to LE? Plus the evidence ...

But LE needs to sort out and defuse the tipster thing well before the trial begins.

[JainDough]

Then why wait another 4 months to make another call. And why didn't he really force the issue in August, heck he could have went to the media.

I really don't know. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? So many twists and turns in this case, it sometimes hard to separate fact from fiction. I would've looked in the bag myself the first time and wait for LE to come.

[bchand]

Here's what they said in PC when asked if casey was notified. They said she was notified by protocol.so I'm assuming that's how OCSO does it. they send Chaplin in to tell the prisoner.....So if thats protocol why should casey get any special treatment?


Dontcha know happygert? Because Jose REQUESTED that HE be the first one notified !! Remember that entitlement we all talk about.

[marinewife5]

Casey may insist on an immediate cremation with no funeral. I doubt she'll even allow a 2nd autopsy. She's gone this far; why would she allow her mom to give Caylee a funeral and proper burial if its within Casey's power to deprive her? One more "stick it to her because I can" act.

That would be interesting, and very possible. jmo

[MichelleP]

I just said the exact same thing, I f I thought for one second le was ignoring my tip, I would have called the fbi immediately, then the media if no one did anything about it. but another poster just alerted me to the fact that maybe the body moved and the tipster did think le had already done something about it, so we really cant judge him not knowing all the details, which will surely come out in his future interviews or court. MOO

Maybe he was taking medications in August or not in his right mind and thinking maybe he just imagined it or something after he last reported it and found nothing, but then maybe the dreams kept him up at night so he went back to give it one last search and actually came up with something this time.

[RJ1]

Were these tips called in before or after Casey's cop boyfriend was fired?

Before. I believe they said cop "friend" was fired on 8/22, and the first three tips were on 8/11, 8/12 & 8/13.

[2lakes]

I'm sorry if this has already been covered but I don't get much time to keep up with this case these days.

LE said that Caylee's body was dumped at the location immediately after her death. Why would Casey's trunk smell so bad if she had not stayed in the back of the trunk. If someone died wouldn't it take a little bit of time in a location (like the trunk) for it to smell badly even weeks to a month later?

[WillowInFlight]

Before. I believe they said cop "friend" was fired on 8/22, and the first three tips were on 8/11, 8/12 & 8/13.

Thanks hon, I wasn't certain of the firing date.

[barskin&co.]

They let Mary Winkler see her husband

Uchhh. They (as I have said before) also gave her a slap on the wrist for shooting him in the back, and then they apologized for hurting her. Let's hope the Mary Winkler case remains an anomaly.

[msjoni]

She is a very strong spirit she drew in that meter reader every time, I believe she will stick around until her mother pays.

I want Casey to pay, but I hope and pray Caylee is at peace...but I do understand what you're saying about Caylee's strong spirit....

[playnice]

I wonder if KC family know her well enough to know that she may try to blame this on them and thats why they lawyered up when the body was found?

[RJ1]

Oh may, I'll bet cindy will be worse...

Hmmm, I don't know. Mama Peterson was in a category all by herself. I think her focus was exclusively on her "golden child" Scott, but I think Cindy really did love Caylee.

[True2Blues]

They let Mary Winkler see her husband
Was she allowed to view his body while in custody of the police, or did she attend the public funeral?

[Mayasmimi]

Oh may, I'll bet cindy will be worse...


Really? How could that be? I so hope Cindy "get's" it. Please God. Please?

[RJ1]

They let Mary Winkler see her husband

All the rule books seemed to be thrown out the window for Mary Winkler ...

[charm7]

Maybe he was taking medications in August or not in his right mind and thinking maybe he just imagined it or something after he last reported it and found nothing, but then maybe the dreams kept him up at night so he went back to give it one last search and actually came up with something this time.


Must remember to never get involved in anything no matter how my civic duty calls. Not worth the aggravation !

[AnnInOhio]

I don't think that would stop him from doing drivebys

You're assuming he didn't do drivebys. What if the bag was originally visible from the road but wasn't where it was finally found? I suspect his curiosity just got the better of him; he knew he'd seen it twice and it wasn't where he thought it was the 3rd day when he met the cop there if I understand correctly.

[JainDough]

Please? He won't. Doubt he will even be her Attorney come trial time. Remember Scott Peterson? Let us all hope that the parents don't behave like the Peterson parents. Scott Peterson's parents were pathetic. Mommy Peterson specifically. ALL IMO.

I totally agree that Baez or any attorney she has come trial time will ever put her on the stand. I just want to know how her defense team plans on getting out her side of the story unless she takes the stand. If I were Baez, I think I'd just keep quiet about "the real story". I think most people already know it.

[WillowInFlight]

I want Casey to pay, but I hope and pray Caylee is at peace...but I do understand what you're saying about Caylee's strong spirit....

I don't think Caylee will be at peace until Casey is convicted.