Friday, Dec 19, AFTERNOON/EVENING, Part 3

[Sweetly]

K, All, please be good and stay on topic. IGNORE, SKIP N SCROLL AND DON'T REPOST LONG POSTS. LET'S KEEP OUR CAYLEE BOARD OPEN, PLEASE!!!!!!!!

[WowZer1]

i think they all stayed at the other board

[WowZer1]

Looks to be Like a News reporter is going around taken statements from the People in the crowds

[Satyagraha]

How does the insertion of the Utility Worker's phone calls affect this case ?
Geraldo says it makes it easier for Casey to get Manslaughter and 15
years : because what was happening on that crime scene between
August and now .
Is this significant information :
or just on Fox News ?

[mojito]

I just have to say this....while I do have complete and total sympathy for the Anthonys right now, I think where my frustration lies is that they never pushed Casey during their video visits about anything. Wonder if they had told her that that knew about all of her lies, would it have made her crack? Their complacency appears to have confirmed to Casey that she could get away with this.
Thank God they finally found her and I hope Casey gets her due justice.

RIP Caylee

[Mandymax]

Good Lord - I hear a helicopter. It sounds (literally) like chaos in front of that house. I feel for the neighbors.

[nothingnew]

Did anyone else see the Anthony attorney saying a few things? I couldn't hear anything. It was on the myfoxorlando live feed.

[Justice_Dawg]

How does the insertion of the Utility Worker's phone calls affect this case ?
Geraldo says it makes it easier for Casey to get Manslaughter and 15
years : because what was happening on that crime scene between
August and now .
Is this significant information :
or just on Fox News ?

FAUX News. LOL

[v8433]

With a sad heart, afternoon all...

Could someone send me the link to the pic from the crime scene showing the book and b/w pic. Please. Thought I saved it last night, cant find it. tia

[bluwaters]

Please Light a Candle for Caylee

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose::rose::rose:

[RJ1]

I just have to say this....while I do have complete and total sympathy for the Anthonys right now, I think where my frustration lies is that they never pushed Casey during their video visits about anything. Wonder if they had told her that that knew about all of her lies, would it have made her crack? Their complacency appears to have confirmed to Casey that she could get away with this.
Thank God they finally found her and I hope Casey gets her due justice.

RIP Caylee

On the other hand, who knows how much more time would have elapsed before locating Caylee if CA hadn't called the cops on Casey?

[roytoy]

Good Lord - I hear a helicopter. It sounds (literally) like chaos in front of that house. I feel for the neighbors.

looks like hired pinkerton type security, like bodyguards.

[~jomomma~]

Good Lord - I hear a helicopter. It sounds (literally) like chaos in front of that house. I feel for the neighbors.


where are you hearing a helicopter? tia

[really3997]

local 6 just had a beautifal montage in honor of Caylee...:crying::crying::crying:

[Janz]

Did anyone else see the Anthony attorney saying a few things? I couldn't hear anything. It was on the myfoxorlando live feed.

kept losing sound but did hear him say LE had been very kind and sympathetic to the Anthony`s.

[bhardy1956]

Looks to be Like a News reporter is going around taken statements from the People in the crowds

Will you provide the link to the live feed? I think I have an old link. Thanks!!

[penguin01]

I saw his lawyer speak. He requested he be left alone and said he plans no interviews at this time. But MyFox Orlando is advertising an interview with him at 3:30. I am confused

[Motomom]

kept losing sound but did hear him say LE had been very kind and sympathetic to the Anthony`s.

Of course they were. They are humans. What did he think that they wouldnt' have compassion for these people while delivering such tragic news?

[LindaNJ1216]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[Auburngirl]

I just have to say this....while I do have complete and total sympathy for the Anthonys right now, I think where my frustration lies is that they never pushed Casey during their video visits about anything. Wonder if they had told her that that knew about all of her lies, would it have made her crack? Their complacency appears to have confirmed to Casey that she could get away with this.
Thank God they finally found her and I hope Casey gets her due justice.

RIP Caylee

Great post mojito! I couldn't have said it better myself. Actually, I would have been harsher in my thoughts so thank your for your level-headedness.

May God keep Caylee safe in his arms.

[GentleBreeze]

How does the insertion of the Utility Worker's phone calls affect this case ?
Geraldo says it makes it easier for Casey to get Manslaughter and 15
years : because what was happening on that crime scene between
August and now .
Is this significant information :
or just on Fox News ?

Just Fox News AND Geraldo and his dumbness.

[SwFlorida]

Will you provide the link to the live feed? I think I have an old link. Thanks!!
Try this one..

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[cajunmoon]

where are you hearing a helicopter? tia
on the live cam in front of the Anthonys home

[bhardy1956]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Thanks!
Do you have sound on your link? I have no sound...

[summer4meplz]

In memory of Caylee Marie Anthony...I will go purple for the rest of the day!!

[Mandymax]

where are you hearing a helicopter? tia

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/14013179/index.html

They keep cutting to a reporter standing in front of the house.

[Sweetly]

I am so utterly devastated right now, it's all I can do to even read this board. My heart hurts so bad, I can barely stand it...:crying: :crying: :crying:

[~jomomma~]

on the live cam in front of the Anthonys home

ok, thanks! i'm not hearing anything from that

nevermind, i do have sound

[Auburngirl]

Jane Velez Mitchell on HLN....She is starting in on the Meter Reader....I wish she would just shut up!!!! She screams every line!mo

Yup. And to think, I am grateful to have her to watch before I suffer through NG. Oye.

[Mimi428]

On the other hand, who knows how much more time would have elapsed before locating Caylee if CA hadn't called the cops on Casey?

Exactly right.

Thank you for reminding us of that.

[WillowInFlight]

That's true. Today, my sympathy and prayers are towards George and Cindy. I know they didn't harm Caylee, and no matter what, I believed they loved her.

I can only imagine how they are feeling, along with being heartbroken, I am sure there are some feelings of guilt.

[LindaNJ1216]

Thanks!
Do you have sound on your link? I have no sound...

very very little..when someone gets close to the mic you can sorta hear.

[SwFlorida]

In memory of Caylee Marie Anthony...I will go purple for the rest of the day!!
I will too. In loving memory of Caylee Marie Anthony..

[nothingnew]

kept losing sound but did hear him say LE had been very kind and sympathetic to the Anthony`s.

Thanks, I tried flipping through the tv channels to see if it was there and found nothing.

[Sweetly]

I don't see how the Anthony's will ever be able to live in that house now! I know I sure couldn't!!! They must be absolutely devastated, especially George! I'm wondering if their marriage will even make it through all this!

[playnice]

It is Caylee, Lee lawyered up. any thing from the family?
Link to web cam?
Thanks.
(Just got home from work)

[legalmania]

Casey you should be home preparing for the holidays. Instead your in jail. What you didn't realize is Caylee had a very strong spirit and luckely there was a young man who had enough sense to listen.

[SwFlorida]

It is Caylee, Lee lawyered up. any thing from the family?
Link to web cam?
Thanks.
(Just got home from work)
Lee lawyered up?

[Motomom]

I don't see how the Anthony's will ever be able to live in that house now! I know I sure couldn't!!! They must be absolutely devastated, especially George! I'm wondering if their marriage will even make it through all this!

I hope they can stick it out together through this disaster. They don't seem to have many others for support, they need one another. I keep thinking about Cindy wanted Casey to bring Caylee home so she could hug her and love her up.. and George, he just wanted to see her little face and hear that little voice. Instead of buying xmas presents, they have to buy a casket. It's horrible.. Casey deserves nothing.. I hope people stop sending money into her comissary.

[bluwaters]

Homicide:

Merriam-Webster Dictionary Online:

homicide

Main Entry:
ho·mi·cide Listen to the pronunciation of homicide Listen to the pronunciation of homicide
Pronunciation:
\ˈhä-mə-ˌsīd, ˈhō-\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
in sense 1, from Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin homicida, from homo human being + -cida -cide; in sense 2, from Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin homicidium, from homo + -cidium -cide
Date:
14th century

1 : a person who kills another
2 : a killing of one human being by another

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homicide


NOLO:
The killing of one human being by the act or omission of another. The term applies to all such killings, whether criminal or not. Homicide is considered noncriminal in a number of situations, including deaths as the result of war and putting someone to death by the valid sentence of a court. Killing may also be legally justified or excused, as it is in cases of self-defense or when someone is killed by another person who is attempting to prevent a violent felony. Criminal homicide occurs when a person purposely, knowingly, recklessly or negligently causes the death of another. Murder and manslaughter are both examples of criminal homicide.

http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/Term/51AB22D3-86AB-4B55-8648BC28B45909C0/alpha/H/

ETA:
The Free Dictionary
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/homicide
defines the history of the term and different legal applications

[legalmania]

I don't see how the Anthony's will ever be able to live in that house now! I know I sure couldn't!!! They must be absolutely devastated, especially George! I'm wondering if their marriage will even make it through all this!

I believe that George will be the first one to break away from this dysfunctional family.

[cajunmoon]

Lee lawyered up?
I saw that the meter-reader had been given counsel but I missed Lee getting one too. could that be the second press conference? I haven't found anything on any of the links here.

[penguin01]

very very little..when someone gets close to the mic you can sorta hear. a little closer and we could hear that guy chewing his gum wth his mouth open! Someone should call him up and tell him how he looks!

[Cury-us Coyote]

Now the live feed is showing old video. Wierd.

Has anyone observed unknown friends entering and leaving the A's home? IIRC, visitors mentioned are new to the family since July 15th.
jmo

[Leena]

I thought we were going to get a press conference with Conway?
Anyone know?

[Sweetly]

I hope they can stick it out together through this disaster. They don't seem to have many others for support, they need one another. I keep thinking about Cindy wanted Casey to bring Caylee home so she could hug her and love her up.. and George, he just wanted to see her little face and hear that little voice. Instead of buying xmas presents, they have to buy a casket. It's horrible.. Casey deserves nothing.. I hope people stop sending money into her comissary.

OHHH, ITA! This is ALL SO VERY HEART CRUSHING ON US ALL!!!! GROUP HUG FOR EVERYONE HERE. I CAN FEEL EVERYONE'S HEARTS IN MY OWN! :crying: :crying: :wub:

[spiritwolf46]

I believe that George will be the first one to break away from this dysfunctional family.

I could not agree with you more! I think he will NOT lie on the stand and after all is done, he will leave. I see this hitting him more than anyone. Don't know why, but I just do.

[tmw]

a little closer and we could hear that guy chewing his gum wth his mouth open! Someone should call him up and tell him how he looks!


lol I just thought his wife should call him and tell me to stop smacking the gum

[JD1974]

I just have to say this....while I do have complete and total sympathy for the Anthonys right now, I think where my frustration lies is that they never pushed Casey during their video visits about anything. Wonder if they had told her that that knew about all of her lies, would it have made her crack? Their complacency appears to have confirmed to Casey that she could get away with this.
Thank God they finally found her and I hope Casey gets her due justice.

RIP Caylee


As soon as they would of pushed her they would of been off her visitation list, by going along with her maybe they thought they would catch her in more lies...or LE would on the video they recorded during visits.

[Motomom]

Nice post Motomom. It made me cry.

TY happy.. That' all I'm thinking about right now. People often times need the closure of seeing a body and they can't even do that. I am sure they are beyond devastated, even though this was predicted and the evidence showed it early on.. the final results are the ones that matter ya know.

Anyone know when they will release Caylee's remains to the Anthony's for burial?

[WillowInFlight]

OHHH, ITA! This is ALL SO VERY HEART CRUSHING ON US ALL!!!! GROUP HUG FOR EVERYONE HERE. I CAN FEEL EVERYONE'S HEARTS IN MY OWN! :crying: :wub:

Your name fits you so well. :wub:

[taylor63]

I hope they can stick it out together through this disaster. They don't seem to have many others for support, they need one another. I keep thinking about Cindy wanted Casey to bring Caylee home so she could hug her and love her up.. and George, he just wanted to see her little face and hear that little voice. Instead of buying xmas presents, they have to buy a casket. It's horrible.. Casey deserves nothing.. I hope people stop sending money into her comissary.


This is so horrible,my heart totally goes out to them now. Even though I have been angry at some of the things they have said and done. Imagine,having to bury a baby right around Christmas? That's about as heartbreaking as it gets. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. I get emotional enough around the holidays anyway thinking of babyJesus. For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son. :rose:

[penguin01]

lol I just thought his wife should call him and tell me to stop smacking the gum That is exactly who I was thinking would give him a call. He is one agressive chewer isn't he?

[charm7]

I would put money down that Casey won't go to Caylee's funeral.
Not for the reasons stated here throughout the day but because she just won't want to.
I don't think she will care what it looks like and the only one making excuses will be JB and the A's.
IMO I just think she just doesn't care. The proof of that was in the woods :sad:

[Sweetly]

Your name fits you so well. :wub:

Thanks so much, I sure do try! :wub:

[tmw]

That is exactly who I was thinking would give him a call. He is one agressive chewer isn't he?
She must be at work with no access to a computer

[cajunmoon]

I thought we were going to get a press conference with Conway?
Anyone know?
so that is who it is1

I've been waiting, but nothing.

what is going to happen now?
are caylee's remains released to NOK yet?

:rose:

[spiritwolf46]

OHHH, ITA! This is ALL SO VERY HEART CRUSHING ON US ALL!!!! GROUP HUG FOR EVERYONE HERE. I CAN FEEL EVERYONE'S HEARTS IN MY OWN! :crying: :wub:

You are so sweet! You do your nic justice. Thank you for the hugs and many many more back at all the folks that have been here so long to see this day come.

Though heartbreaking, Caylee is will now be laid to rest as she should be. She has already been raised to heaven and is being held by the Lord. He will comfort her and she will never have to be afraid again. That comforts me some.

:rose: For Caylee and all that are here for her.

[??WHATthe??]

That is exactly who I was thinking would give him a call. He is one agressive chewer isn't he?

If you keep watching... it looks like looped video...

Hmmm...:blink:

Edited: Well... maybe not... it is doing old video at times though...

[stef]

Has anyone observed unknown friends entering and leaving the A's home? IIRC, visitors mentioned are new to the family since July 15th.
jmo

no
I like the meter reader, the longer he stays quiet, the more I will like him. I am hoping he is being quiet to help LE with their case.

[court~critic1®]

They can't even grieve in peace. That home has so many reminders of Caylee. Right now, they're in shock, but, their lives are shattered. I hope everyone can find it in their hearts to send them love and prayers.


I don't know why they should be shattered as you put it. I believe they have known all along that baby girl was dead. I can not send them anything. Not even hate.

[spiritwolf46]

Your name fits you so well. :wub:

Great minds think alike Willow! ITA!

[Sweetly]

You are so sweet! You do your nic justice. Thank you for the hugs and many many more back at all the folks that have been here so long to see this day come.

Though heartbreaking, Caylee is will now be laid to rest as she should be. She has already been raised to heaven and is being held by the Lord. He will comfort her and she will never have to be afraid again. That comforts me some.

:rose: For Caylee and all that are here for her.

AMEN! This is the ONLY thing that has given me any comfort thru all this!

[SavannahStar]

This is so horrible,my heart totally goes out to them now. Even though I have been angry at some of the things they have said and done. Imagine,having to bury a baby right around Christmas? That's about as heartbreaking as it gets. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. I get emotional enough around the holidays anyway thinking of babyJesus. For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son. :rose:


Not only imagine burying a baby at Christmas, but imagine for a minute in this crime being the grandparent of the victim and the parent of the defendant. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, and my heart bleeds for them.

[WillowInFlight]

You are so sweet! You do your nic justice. Thank you for the hugs and many many more back at all the folks that have been here so long to see this day come.

Though heartbreaking, Caylee is will now be laid to rest as she should be. She has already been raised to heaven and is being held by the Lord. He will comfort her and she will never have to be afraid again. That comforts me some.

:rose: For Caylee and all that are here for her.

Beautiful post Spirit, and I agree, Caylee is in the arms of our Lord.

[Cury-us Coyote]

NaJame
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/14013179/index.html

[Stella Rose]

Just sent a very polite but somewhat frosty e-mail to Geraldo. Not that he will read it, but it sure felt good. May I suggest all of you who are fed up with him do the same. Small release on this awful, emotional day.

[Leena]

Yes, that live link on fox is looped video judging by the sunshine and how the dudes keep switching places. Now I'm recognizing movements.
weird:blink:

anyone know if there is a pc coming from the anthony's or conway?

[JD1974]

Not only imagine burying a baby at Christmas, but imagine for a minute in this crime being the grandparent of the victim and the parent of the defendant. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, and my heart bleeds for them.



Honestly I just thought about that, it is Christmastime, it has to be horrendous to bury a child any time but at Christmas has to make it even worse.

[psbperu]

Just came in & found out the remains are of Caylee Anthony. Also viewed the video of the meter reader & his public statement & that of his lawyer.

He appears to be (at this point) an innocent bystander in all of this ... particularly since he reported his sightings of a bag (we don't know the exact location & he wisely isn't going to make that public) in the month of August.

What I am wondering is: did LE drop the ball on their response to such information. At present I don't believe we are privy to all the information that would put that question to rest...for me. We have statements from Nieves but I want to see the written reports that were made.

Now Sheriff Beary wants to follow up on this before making any comment.

What will truly be appalling is: if the meter reader is an innocent bystander that he had to ask for a lawyer to protect his interests.

[Motomom]

This is so horrible,my heart totally goes out to them now. Even though I have been angry at some of the things they have said and done. Imagine,having to bury a baby right around Christmas? That's about as heartbreaking as it gets. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. I get emotional enough around the holidays anyway thinking of babyJesus. For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son. :rose:

My sympathy for them is seperate from my opinions on their bahavior. I'm curious as to how they will spin this, but that's for a later time. I want them to grieve and start to heal. I have always believed they loved her with everything.. but like I said, seperate from their lies and behavior..for now that can be put aside. We all know that they are suffereing with this news. They can't even hold out 1 % of hope that she is alive. I am sure they are crushed beyond words. Add to that the fact that it is most likely their own flesh and blood, the child they raised and loved, who did this. I can't imagine having to deal with it all. I would like to see Cindy's mother come and hold her own daughter now. It's just so upsetting.. no matter how much I knew it was her..hearing it..finalized just breaks your heart over and over again. To think her little body laid in that dark bag, in that wet place.. little kids are scared of the dark, they sometimes want a nightlight..and here she was in nothing but darkness and woods, while that pig of a mother of hers was out dancing and partying.. Blech.. I feel such disdain for Casey.

[v8433]

I don't see how the Anthony's will ever be able to live in that house now! I know I sure couldn't!!! They must be absolutely devastated, especially George! I'm wondering if their marriage will even make it through all this!

I agree Sweetly. KNowing that my beloved grand daughter was killed and put in the backyard, then disposed of DOWN THE STREET!!!!:thumbdown::angry:

[spiritwolf46]

Beautiful post Spirit, and I agree, Caylee is in the arms of our Lord.


Thank you, Willow! Very appreciated. :wub:

[Sweetly]

I'm so glad NeJames is finally able to tell his story! What a stand up guy! Kudos to you Mr. NeJames and to soooo many others!

[WillowInFlight]

I don't know why they should be shattered as you put it. I believe they have known all along that baby girl was dead. I can not send them anything. Not even hate.

As much as I hate the way they have handled themselves, I just can't hate them right now, my heart is breaking for them.

[JD1974]

I would put money down that Casey won't go to Caylee's funeral.
Not for the reasons stated here throughout the day but because she just won't want to.
I don't think she will care what it looks like and the only one making excuses will be JB and the A's.
IMO I just think she just doesn't care. The proof of that was in the woods :sad:


I don't think she would be allowed out for the funeral anyway so that is moot.

[Mandymax]

As much as I hate the way they have handled themselves, I just can't hate them right now, my heart is breaking for them.

My fervent hope is that this will force them to accept reality, and that their love and grief for Caylee will motivate them to start doing the right thing.

[court~critic1®]

I'll say a extra prayer for them in your place.


Thank you HT. I can not, as I do not want to be a hipocrit(sp) like them.

[Motomom]

I don't know why they should be shattered as you put it. I believe they have known all along that baby girl was dead. I can not send them anything. Not even hate.

You don't know why they should be shattered? Those of us here, some of us are heartbroken all over and we didn't even know this little girl. Something about it being final maybe?

Yes, I'm pretty sure they are shattered right about now.

[FrankieBones1]

Just sent a very polite but somewhat frosty e-mail to Geraldo. Not that he will read it, but it sure felt good. May I suggest all of you who are fed up with him do the same. Small release on this awful, emotional day.

Just heard on the radio on my commute home about the DNA results. What's this about Geraldo? Did he give some kind wacky comment today?

[kitty1182]

As much as I hate the way they have handled themselves, I just can't hate them right now, my heart is breaking for them.

Mine too Willow..Casey had destroyed so many lives, the lives of the ones who love her....How can she sleep at night?

[rj1212]

Honestly I just thought about that, it is Christmastime, it has to be horrendous to bury a child any time but at Christmas has to make it even worse.

My heart aches for the great-grandparents and for Caylee. She, along with other innocent children deserve to be loved and protected. I am glad that the "Casey coddling" has come to an end.

RIP Caylee :rose:

[Janz]

TY happy.. That' all I'm thinking about right now. People often times need the closure of seeing a body and they can't even do that. I am sure they are beyond devastated, even though this was predicted and the evidence showed it early on.. the final results are the ones that matter ya know.

Anyone know when they will release Caylee's remains to the Anthony's for burial?

Didn`t the defense say they would do another autopsy?

[Mimi428]

I would put money down that Casey won't go to Caylee's funeral.
Not for the reasons stated here throughout the day but because she just won't want to.
I don't think she will care what it looks like and the only one making excuses will be JB and the A's.
IMO I just think she just doesn't care. The proof of that was in the woods :sad:

I think you are right that she will not go to the funeral. She is charged with murder, this case has already proven to be creating & perpetuating a media circus & frenzy. Too much of a risk to let her out of jail, even accompanied by LE. And there is no need for the taxpayers to fund for extra LE to accompany her (instead of doing their usual job).

JMO

[Regina.Lampert]

I feel very sorry for the anthonys, that they lost this darling of a child, Caylee. I just hope they realize exactly who caused them this pain and agony and act accordingly. No more lies, distortion and pointing fingers at innocent people.

[spiritwolf46]

I don't think she would be allowed out for the funeral anyway so that is moot.


Nothing is MOOT here. It was the opinion of that poster and I agree with what she was saying. This board is for just that, discussion and opinions. :seeya:

[WillowInFlight]

Mine too Willow..Casey had destroyed so many lives, the lives of the ones who love her....How can she sleep at night?

I don't know Kitty, but I would love to know what is going on in her mind right now. I wonder why her family isn't with her for comfort.

[JD1974]

My heart aches for the great-grandparents and for Caylee. She, along with other innocent children deserve to be loved and protected. I am glad that the "Casey coddling" has come to an end.

RIP Caylee :rose:


I have never seen a person quite like Casey Anthony and to be honest I am very glad of that.

[tmw]

Dose this FOOL realize she is on live feed???

[Stella Rose]

Just heard on the radio on my commute home about the DNA results. What's this about Geraldo? Did he give some kind wacky comment today?

Several, as usual. Most notably was that Caylee may have died from a heart attack or choked on some gum. He also stated that Henry Lee would not tamper with a crime scene, which we all know is complete BS.

[cajunmoon]

I'll say a extra prayer for them in your place.

as contemptuous as they have behaved, this had to hit them really hard, maybe for the first time since this tragedy began.

I hope they have someone that can look after them.

I include in that the Great grandfather. that has to be hard.

[Motomom]

I don't think she would be allowed out for the funeral anyway so that is moot.

I don't know. Even though she is in for murder, it is still just jail, not prison and she is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.. I say guilty now,.. but in the eyes of the law and all that. My cousin was let out when her brother died. She was brought in the back and viewe him privately and taken right back to jail.. i don't think Casey will want to go anyway..jmo

[tmw]

Does she know that she is reporting on a dead baby???

[JD1974]

Nothing is MOOT here. It was the opinion of that poster and I agree with what she was saying. This board is for just that, discussion and opinions. :seeya:


Yes so jump on me for my opinion lol I just don't think they let accused murderers attend their victims funeral no matter what the relationship is.

[kitty1182]

I don't know Kitty, but I would love to know what is going on in her mind right now. I wonder why her family isn't with her for comfort.

If Casey were my daughter and I knew she killed my GD, I would not want to be with her, at least for a long while..

[kitty1182]

Dose this FOOL realize she is on live feed???

Someone should tell her...:cursing:

[?noanswer]

What you bet she's gonna come on "live" and be so "sad" about the happenings. JMO

[JD1974]

I don't know. Even though she is in for murder, it is still just jail, not prison and she is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.. I say guilty now,.. but in the eyes of the law and all that. My cousin was let out when her brother died. She was brought in the back and viewe him privately and taken right back to jail.. i don't think Casey will want to go anyway..jmo


I understand that, but Casey is in there for murdering the child who the funeral is for.

[~jomomma~]

Mine too Willow..Casey had destroyed so many lives, the lives of the ones who love her....How can she sleep at night?

i agree kitty

my heart is heavy for all those that knew Caylee. i hope Kristine (i think that's her name) is doing ok today.

i can't even begine to imagine what pain cindy and george are feeling, realizing caylee is really gone :crying:

i read earlier that they are still behind casey...that makes me ill

[Roux]

What a little nitwit - doesn't she know she's on a live cam!:cursing:

[summer4meplz]

I am thinking that girl does NOT know they are streaming live.....if she does.....shame on her.....if she doesn't, shame on the cameraman

[kitty1182]

Maybe it's just the 5 pm feed? The reporter doesn't appear to know she is live already!!

She needs to go pee:rolleyes:

[Motomom]

Looks like reporter is preparing for something.

Well she needs to go to the bathroom right now..too bad nobody told her she was streaming live on the web.. the inappropriate laughing, giggling and face making when she is suppose to be covering something so tragic is..somehow wrong..

[Sweetly]

What an idiot that girl is on FOX live feed. How can she act like this at a time like this???? DISGUSTING!!!!!!!

OH GOOD, THEY TURNED HER OFF!!!

[rj1212]

Dose this FOOL realize she is on live feed???

Yeah...that was joke...who is she there for, HERSELF?

[spiritwolf46]

Yes so jump on me for my opinion lol I just don't think they let accused murderers attend their victims funeral no matter what the relationship is.

My intention was not to jump on you, just to say that it was not a moot point here in this message board. I apologize if you thought that I was jumping you, but I truly was not.

[cajunmoon]

Several, as usual. Most notably was that Caylee may have died from a heart attack or choked on some gum. He also stated that Henry Lee would not tamper with a crime scene, which we all know is complete BS.

Heart attack? Gum? Sure.

That is so wrong somehow, disrespectful to Caylee's memory. It figures it would be Geraldo to say something like that.




Dr Henry Lee wouldnt? Sure.

IMO

[jakee]

What a little nitwit - doesn't she know she's on a live cam!:cursing:

My face is turning red for her. Someone should tell her she is on!

[JD1974]

Well she needs to go to the bathroom right now..too bad nobody told her she was streaming live on the web.. the inappropriate laughing, giggling and face making when she is suppose to be covering something so tragic is..somehow wrong..


For some reason I can't get the live feed from the site and no one has linked the mirror site today :wink:

[court~critic1®]

As much as I hate the way they have handled themselves, I just can't hate them right now, my heart is breaking for them.


Willow.... I do not hate these people. I have no feelings for them at all. I dislike the way they have done things, lied, and etc, but that is as far as it goes.

For those that have a forgivng heart for folks like this I am glad. I am just not one of them. I have a long memory.

safe one

[JD1974]

My intention was not to jump on you, just to say that it was not a moot point here in this message board. I apologize if you thought that I was jumping you, but I truly was not.


I am sorry then :smile: I do agree with the points the poster made though!

[playnice]

I'm so glad NeJames is finally able to tell his story! What a stand up guy! Kudos to you Mr. NeJames and to soooo many others!

What has he said? Gosh a couple of hours away and I feel so out of the loop.

[FrankieBones1]

Several, as usual. Most notably was that Caylee may have died from a heart attack or choked on some gum. He also stated that Henry Lee would not tamper with a crime scene, which we all know is complete BS.
Thanks for that update. Stella. I see that HNN is covering this right now.

[playnice]

Has someone got the web cam link?

[Motomom]

I understand that, but Casey is in there for murdering the child who the funeral is for.

Yeah, I get that.. But she is suppose to be innocent until proven guilty right? Like I said, I don't know.. we'll see. I'm trying to think, haven't other people gone to their victems funeral. I keep thinking a husband who killed their wife or soemthing..but I know no more than that. Just remember something like that. wonder when they will release her body?

[nothingnew]

Has someone got the web cam link?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[tmw]

OMG look how sad she got!!! '
That was fast!!

[legalmania]

Here are the F.S. for homicide if anybody is interested.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0782/titl0782.htm&StatuteYear=2008&Title=-%3E2008-%3EChapter%20782

[Stella Rose]

Thanks for that update. Stella. I see that HNN is covering this right now.

Anytime. Glad I could be of some assistance. This board is moving so fast today. Any updates would be appreciated. Still stuck at work, no TV.

[spiritwolf46]

I am sorry then :smile: I do agree with the points the poster made though!

:rose: For you.

[JD1974]

I agree Motomom. She will not want to go, and I think she should go. Maybe it will break through that seared conscience? I keep thinking about her text to Tony when he asked why she didn't tell him about Caylee missing? She wrote, "I'm the worst mother in the world." Let her reap the consequences, including the funeral. SHe'd far prefer staying in her little cocoon, drawing, eating snacks, and reading, isolating herself from feeling any remorse.

I do not think her going to the funeral would do anything to Casey, she is the one who put her dead daughters body in trash bag/s so what would a funeral do to a sick person like her, nothing imo

[nothingnew]

OMG look how sad she got!!! '
That was fast!!

Now maybe someone can call their station and let them know the ME didn't say "murdered". Do these people watch tv at all?

[WillowInFlight]

I am thinking that girl does NOT know they are streaming live.....if she does.....shame on her.....if she doesn't, shame on the cameraman

Why summer, what is she saying?

[cajunmoon]

My intention was not to jump on you, just to say that it was not a moot point here in this message board. I apologize if you thought that I was jumping you, but I truly was not.
I have a question regarding funerals and incarcerated people being allowed to attend. security would be cost prohibitive. I can't find any actual law about that.

[JD1974]

Yeah, I get that.. But she is suppose to be innocent until proven guilty right? Like I said, I don't know.. we'll see. I'm trying to think, haven't other people gone to their victems funeral. I keep thinking a husband who killed their wife or soemthing..but I know no more than that. Just remember something like that. wonder when they will release her body?

Right, I definitely get what you are saying, I do remember quite a few cases where one of the parents was arrested for the death of their child, they were found not guilty and one of the major things that upset them besides the death of their child of course was that they weren't allowed to attend the funeral.

[Deb7]

Dose this FOOL realize she is on live feed???

I was hoping I wasn't the only one who heard her ramblings (the Cheryl Getuiza reporter). Please, someone correct me if I misheard, but did she say something about Casey killing Caylee while she was "off" camera? Someone should have let her known she was live.

:blushing:

[GumShoeJoe]

Yeah, I get that.. But she is suppose to be innocent until proven guilty right? Like I said, I don't know.. we'll see. I'm trying to think, haven't other people gone to their victems funeral. I keep thinking a husband who killed their wife or soemthing..but I know no more than that. Just remember something like that. wonder when they will release her body?


This "innocent until proven guilty"... it is for the judge and jury. The police and district attorneys are obviously allowed to think she is guilty and lock her up. It is for a reason. Otherwise, no one would ever get charged, suspects would ever be locked up, etc.



jmo

[rj1212]

Willow.... I do not hate these people. I have no feelings for them at all. I dislike the way they have done things, lied, and etc, but that is as far as it goes.

For those that have a forgivng heart for folks like this I am glad. I am just not one of them. I have a long memory.

safe one

I can certainly forgive them but not accept and excuse G and C's behavior to lie and cover-up things for Casey.

I'll never accept that as "ok". That is why forgiveness is extended to them but my heart aches for the great-grandparents of Caylee, and Caylee. Concerning George and Cindy, they needed to come to grips with the truth a LONG time ago...like...when 31 days had gone by and you found out Caylee was gone, and the car smelled like human decomposition. That is NOT the time to take up for and lie for a lying, stealing, partying-while-Caylee-is-missing-Casey Anthony.
mo....with all due respect to Caylee.

[Motomom]

I have a question regarding funerals and incarcerated people being allowed to attend. security would be cost prohibitive. I can't find any actual law about that.

They could do it quietly if they wished to I think. Nobody would see her. They could bring her in a van, pull right up to the funeral home, nobody would be able to be in there with her. But it's doubtful she'd go. I mean, how the heck would she fake all that sorrow and grief?

[legalmania]

My intention was not to jump on you, just to say that it was not a moot point here in this message board. I apologize if you thought that I was jumping you, but I truly was not.

Prisoners are allowed to attend funerals but they have to be shackled and can only attend one portion of the funeral like the viewing or the burial and must have sheriffs escorts.

[rbrnmw]

I had to go Christmas Shopping when I got to the toy section to buy my little girl a doll she wanted I just lost it right there I started bawling my eyes out I had to leave Maybe tomorrow but I just can't today I am devastated I hope Cindy is OK I am sure her and George are beside themselves with grief

[charm7]

:rose:Nothing is MOOT here. It was the opinion of that poster and I agree with what she was saying. This board is for just that, discussion and opinions. :seeya:


Thanks spirit....I am used to it.

I have been reading your thoughtful and beautiful posts. Thanks for them also :rose:

Mixed emotions today

[JD1974]

You're probably right. I am having a problem with the news commentators speaking of "accidental" death. No one knows how the child died, or the malice behind it, or do they know if Caylee suffered.


If it was an accident why hide it? They can argue she panicked but she came up with a pretty detailed story and went out and partied? If it was an accident and she panicked why did she literally act like nothing happened? I hope that a jury would never buy the accident theory because of those things.

[spiritwolf46]

I have a question regarding funerals and incarcerated people being allowed to attend. security would be cost prohibitive. I can't find any actual law about that.

That is a good question, if you are asking about how much it would cost the taxpayers. Also, would it be a smart move to allow the Princess out of jail for this due to some wacko people out there who may want to harm her for what she has done?

[tmw]

I was hoping I wasn't the only one who heard her ramblings (the Cheryl Getuiza reporter). Please, someone correct me if I misheard, but did she say something about Casey killing Caylee while she was "off" camera? Someone should have let her known she was live.

:blushing:

She said something about killing...
I couldn't believe what I was hearing, I can't say for sure what she said, though.

[NikkiG77058]

:rose: For you.


Awe that was very sweet of you Wolfie...I have always enjoyed reading your posts but this last exchange between you and the other poster, just solidified it for me.

When is the PC gonna happen??

[legalmania]

I have a question regarding funerals and incarcerated people being allowed to attend. security would be cost prohibitive. I can't find any actual law about that.

It can be found in the prisoner handbook.

[Motomom]

This "innocent until proven guilty"... it is for the judge and jury. The police and district attorneys are obviously allowed to think she is guilty and lock her up. It is for a reason. Otherwise, no one would ever get charged, suspects would ever be locked up, etc.



jmo

Where was I wrong in what I posted? She is charged, not convicted.. Mind you, I am not defending her at all and if it appears that way I apologize. She is one person I would not defend in the least bit. I never said what anyone is or isn't allowed to think, because I think she is guilty as sin. Always have thought she was.

[cajunmoon]

Jose baez is up next. To tell us what casey told him.
edited. Lost half the post.

what I was trying to ask was on July when casey was first charged with neglect, what had she done to get charged that time?

[Sweetly]

WOW, those SMUG looks on Casey Anthony's face so many times, sure adds new meaning now that we all KNOW that Caylee is no longer with us!!! How can any human being be so cold, calculating and EVIL????

HOW? Just HOW? I just can't wrap my loving mind around this!!

[JD1974]

That is a good question, if you are asking about how much it would cost the taxpayers. Also, would it be a smart move to allow the Princess out of jail for this due to some wacko people out there who may want to harm her for what she has done?



Excellent point! Someone may want to harm her, that is enough reason to keep her in jail instead of going to the funeral.

[spiritwolf46]

:rose:


Thanks spirit....I am used to it.

I have been reading your thoughtful and beautiful posts. Thanks for them also :rose:

Mixed emotions today

AW! That is so sweet! Thank you!

What a horrible day today, huh? I thank God for all of you here on this board. We are all here for the same reason and learned together about this little one being gone now. I am thankful for everyone here.

:rose: For you and all who are here for Caylee.

[legalmania]

I had to go Christmas Shopping when I got to the toy section to buy my little girl a doll she wanted I just lost it right there I started bawling my eyes out I had to leave Maybe tomorrow but I just can't today I am devastated I hope Cindy is OK I am sure her and George are beside themselves with grief

same here putting up the tree I had to stop. How devastating for the grandparents to go through the holiday under these conditions.

[kellabeck]

Faux spouting more piffle now. That the area was SCOURED BY THOUSANDS OF SEARCHERS!! THAT THEY SENT CADAVER DOGS IN THERE!! THEY DIDN"T FIND THE BODY BUT THIS METER READER DID??

Peh!!!

[Dogmatic]

If it was an accident why hide it? They can argue she panicked but she came up with a pretty detailed story and went out and partied? If it was an accident and she panicked why did she literally act like nothing happened? I hope that a jury would never buy the accident theory because of those things.


This case DOES NOT fit in the accident container and here is why:

1. No sadness shown by Casey i.e. film clips in Target buying beer etc--hot body photos--testimony that no one knew anything was wrong

2. No attempt by Casey to "properly" bury her baby



Nope. I'm thinking they are going to carry right along with the Zanny the Nanny story and see if that excrement will stick to the wall

[Motomom]

Right, I definitely get what you are saying, I do remember quite a few cases where one of the parents was arrested for the death of their child, they were found not guilty and one of the major things that upset them besides the death of their child of course was that they weren't allowed to attend the funeral.

I am not sure what case I am thinking about. Oh you know, I do remember one case but the guy wasn't a suspect at the time. A young girl, he was her best friend and was a pall bearer at her funeral :ohmy: that's just one though.

I am hoping someone from the jailhouse will start leaking info, like her behavior and all that good stuff. I don't care if Baez says it is her private moment, whatever that is..makes me sick. He can't say anything because if she was devastated and collapsed in tears, you know he would have said that. He can't say that because she probably asked to finish her funyons before being told the news.. she's disgusting.

[JD1974]

EXACTLY! Dr. G determined it was homicide, based on the totality of evidence, both forensic and circumstantial. No one who panics following an accident would behave in the manner Casey acted, blatantly celebrating her new life. While all is speculative, there is compelling evidence that Casey was thrilled to be without the encumbrance of a toddler.


There is no way the accident theory will fly...at least I am hoping the jury sees through it because to me it is a joke. I definitely agree that NO ONE acts like that after the accidental death of their child...

[legalmania]

Here in Ca.. The inmate or family has to pay the price for those sheriffs escorts. It is not done free of charge.mo

I'm not sure about Florida but it wouldn't surprise me if it was the same. I just breezed through the book at the law library one day.

[kellabeck]

Oh, yes, in court Baez will present the other half of the story, the story we don't know. The story which tells Casey's compelling reasons for being a total sociopathic killer.

[SwFlorida]

That is a good question, if you are asking about how much it would cost the taxpayers. Also, would it be a smart move to allow the Princess out of jail for this due to some wacko people out there who may want to harm her for what she has done?
My niece got killed a few years back and her husband was in prison a few hours away. He was able to attend the funeral if he paid 1500.00 for the expense..(Security, gas, etc). But I dont know about Casey.

[tootie]

For Caylee......:rose:

[I'mRight]

WOW, those SMUG looks on Casey Anthony's face so many times, sure adds new meaning now that we all KNOW that Caylee is no longer with us!!! How can any human being be so cold, calculating and EVIL????

HOW? Just HOW? I just can't wrap my loving mind around this!!


Yeah. She's veryyyyy smug. No jury is gonna acquit her with all her lies. That, in combination with seeing little Caylee's sweet face will give her no less than LWOP.

[kellabeck]

MyFoxOrlando reporting it was a "suspicious bag and a stench.."


Is A N Y O N E else reporting a "stench" from August??

[spiritwolf46]

Faux spouting more piffle now. That the area was SCOURED BY THOUSANDS OF SEARCHERS!! THAT THEY SENT CADAVER DOGS IN THERE!! THEY DIDN"T FIND THE BODY BUT THIS METER READER DID??

Peh!!!


That is why I tuned in to Headline News. Mike Brooks has been on there. I think he rocks.

[JD1974]

This case DOES NOT fit in the accident container and here is why:

1. No sadness shown by Casey i.e. film clips in Target buying beer etc--hot body photos--testimony that no one knew anything was wrong

2. No attempt by Casey to "properly" bury her baby



Nope. I'm thinking they are going to carry right along with the Zanny the Nanny story and see if that excrement will stick to the wall



I do remember Baez saying in some document that IF Caylee was dead it had to be an accident...I cannot remember where I read that but I know I did, not those exact words but words to that effect.

[legalmania]

I wonder if Casey asked about that area where Caylee was found after the hurricane. I would like to know if she was wondering if it was flooded.

[Sweetly]

I like to think that most of us here, are the kind of people that will serve on her jury.. I don't think that many jurors are going to get past the 31 days, lies, and finally the fact that Caylee was found so close to home. mo

Amen to this! I wish Florida used the electric chair! I'm sorry but I am so livid at Casey, I just want her to suffer severely for what she has done. SUFFER FAR MORE THAN I BELIEVE CAYLEE SUFFERED. I CAN'T EVEN GO THERE.... I am just sick ....

[WillowInFlight]

Yeah. She's veryyyyy smug. No jury is gonna acquit her with all her lies. That, in combination with seeing little Caylee's sweet face will give her no less than LWOP.

ITA, I will never understand why she did this.

[Dogmatic]

Prisoners are
to attend funerals but they have to be shackled and can only attend one portion of the funeral like the viewing or the burial and must have sheriffs escorts.


Not usually for the people they are being held without bail for killing

[Deb7]

She said something about killing...
I couldn't believe what I was hearing, I can't say for sure what she said, though.

Thanks TMW I thought I heard something.

[tootie]

Have they ever formally identified the meter reader?

[kellabeck]

Those dogs are getting on my last nerve. They NEVER find bodies...SNIP

WHAT are you talking about? Cadaver dogs are very useful and have found many, many bodies.

[TxLady2]

Amazing... the meter reader guy's name is Roy Kronk..... heckuva lot different than "...Gonzalez", ain't it! Where on earth did that come from... it's been tossed around on a couple boards for several days now.

[spiritwolf46]

My niece got killed a few years back and her husband was in prison a few hours away. He was able to attend the funeral if he paid 1500.00 for the expense..(Security, gas, etc). But I dont know about Casey.


I am so sorry to hear about your niece! How horrible!

Thank you for the insight. I guess we will all see what happens and if the horrible liar/murderer will be allowed to attend.

[Motomom]

I do remember Baez saying in some document that IF Caylee was dead it had to be an accident...I cannot remember where I read that but I know I did, not those exact words but words to that effect.

I don't get why anyone can say now that it was an accident if the reports are true that Caylee had ducttape around her little head. That could be how she died, she could have suffocated her with the tape.. not accidental though.. Waiting to hear what that stain was in the back of the car, that will be telling IMO

[JD1974]

My niece got killed a few years back and her husband was in prison a few hours away. He was able to attend the funeral if he paid 1500.00 for the expense..(Security, gas, etc). But I dont know about Casey.


Was he in prison for killing her though? I know inmates can go to funerals while incarcerated but I don't think I have ever heard of someone being in jail being let out to attend their victims funeral...I could be wrong though. Ok maybe I shouldn't say never but I can't recall hearing of one.

[charm7]

AW! That is so sweet! Thank you!

What a horrible day today, huh? I thank God for all of you here on this board. We are all here for the same reason and learned together about this little one being gone now. I am thankful for everyone here.

:rose: For you and all who are here for Caylee.


I can understand a prisoner getting to go to the funeral of a family member but it's hard to see them let her go to the funeral of her victim. Do they use the "innocent til proven guilty" as a determintor?

My post however was to stress the fact that I don't think she would care enough to ask to go.

Suppertime.......later :beer:

[SwFlorida]

Have they ever formally identified the meter reader?
Yes, He made a short statement to Fox 35. I don't have the link..

[Regina.Lampert]

I do remember Baez saying in some document that IF Caylee was dead it had to be an accident...I cannot remember where I read that but I know I did, not those exact words but words to that effect.


That was contained in Terence Lenamon's motion to the State's Attorney in which he explained why casey anthony should not be given the death penalty.

[bhardy1956]

Did anyone hear about the book they found on the scene where the Caylee's remains were found, I heard it was the same book that she was reading on the video that NG keeps repeating.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,469785,00.html

[Loves2Read]

Amazing... the meter reader guy's name is Roy Kronk..... heckuva lot different than "...Gonzalez", ain't it! Where on earth did that come from... it's been tossed around on a couple boards for several days now.

It was from a reporter. Several people on this board said they heard the same broadcast. I believe it.

[SwFlorida]

Was he in prison for killing her though? I know inmates can go to funerals while incarcerated but I don't think I have ever heard of someone being in jail being let out to attend their victims funeral...I could be wrong though. Ok maybe I shouldn't say never but I can't recall hearing of one.
No he wasn't.

[legalmania]

I can understand a prisoner getting to go to the funeral of a family member but it's hard to see them let her go to the funeral of her victim. Do they use the "innocent til proven guilty" as a determintor?

My post however was to stress the fact that I don't think she would care enough to ask to go.

Suppertime.......later :beer:

Innocent until proven guilty is one reason but I think LE wants to see here reaction.

[bluwaters]

Oh, yes, in court Baez will present the other half of the story, the story we don't know. The story which tells Casey's compelling reasons for being a total sociopathic killer.

I wonder when Baez will tell us why he believed that Caylee was still alive?

[spiritwolf46]

I can understand a prisoner getting to go to the funeral of a family member but it's hard to see them let her go to the funeral of her victim. Do they use the "innocent til proven guilty" as a determintor?

My post however was to stress the fact that I don't think she would care enough to ask to go.

Suppertime.......later :beer:

Have a good supper and hurry back!

[?noanswer]

Have they ever formally identified the meter reader?


Yes, he read a statement at a press conference. JMO

[taylor63]

This is soo depressing, I just heard the pathologist Cyril Wecht,say on Fox News that the cause of death will probably never be known because her little body was so decomposed,and he implied because of that there will likely be no conviction . Please someone tell me this isn't true! The very idea of the killer of this baby getting away with taking her life is almost too much to bear.

[tootie]

Thanks for the information! SwFlorida & TxLady2 & ?noanswer too!

[kellabeck]

What a dumb thing to say! If there was an innocent story to tell,she would tell it now and get out of jail!!:huh:mo

No for some time and he repeated it recently, that we don't know the full story and there is a compelling reason why Casey has said and done the things she has and we will understand all eventually. Blah blah blah.

[Loves2Read]

I wonder when Baez will tell us why he believed that Caylee was still alive?

Do you really think he is going to go there? I don't for one second think he will go there. He wants everyone to forget he ever said that.

[JD1974]

I don't get why anyone can say now that it was an accident if the reports are true that Caylee had ducttape around her little head. That could be how she died, she could have suffocated her with the tape.. not accidental though.. Waiting to hear what that stain was in the back of the car, that will be telling IMO


I think the def will say the duct tape was on the bag not on Caylee, animals, the flooding etc just made it look like the duct tape was on her. I guess it depends where the duct tape actually was though and they will have pictures of that at trial.

[legalmania]

I wonder when Baez will tell us why he believed that Caylee was still alive?

Well Casey said it will all be explained when they had Caylee back. They have Caylee back but I think she thought it would never happen and she could continue her lies.

[NikkiG77058]

Was he in prison for killing her though? I know inmates can go to funerals while incarcerated but I don't think I have ever heard of someone being in jail being let out to attend their victims funeral...I could be wrong though. Ok maybe I shouldn't say never but I can't recall hearing of one.

Mary Winkler was allowed to view her husband at the funeral home, privately.

I can't imagine Casey going unless she thinks she might get to score some 'mourning' points with her family. IMO

[kellabeck]

This is soo depressing, I just heard the pathologist Cyril Wecht,say on Fox News that the cause of death will probably never be known because her little body was so decomposed,and he implied because of that there will likely be no conviction . Please someone tell me this isn't true! The very idea of the killer of this baby getting away with taking her life is almost too much to bear.

It isn't true.
The cause of death of Laci and Conner Peterson could not be determined but that didn't stop a jury from voting that Scott Peterson killed them even if they didn't know exactly how.

Why is Cyril Wecht still pontificating? Doesn't he have his own legal troubles to tend to??

[JD1974]

That was contained in Terence Lenamon's motion to the State's Attorney in which he explained why casey anthony should not be given the death penalty.



Thank you Regina, I knew I read the accident theory somewhere!

[HouseOfClark]

This is soo depressing, I just heard the pathologist Cyril Wecht,say on Fox News that the cause of death will probably never be known because her little body was so decomposed,and he implied because of that there will likely be no conviction . Please someone tell me this isn't true! The very idea of the killer of this baby getting away with taking her life is almost too much to bear.

That's it! Enough! Now Cyril Wecht weighing in.

Have all of these "professionals" lost their minds? Is this the first murder case they have ever seen?

I can't take much more of them.

[Motomom]

Innocent until proven guilty is one reason but I think LE wants to see here reaction.

Oh so really it could work against her as far as trial. She isnt' goign to be able to break down and be devastated, destroyed as any mother would be when their child has died. No way can she pull that off. the most emotion she has ever felt IMO is when she woke up from nightmares sweating, per Lazzaro. So they could put ont he stand, whoever escorted her there. maybe baez won't be requesting this..hmm

[bluwaters]

Amen to this! I wish Florida used the electric chair! I'm sorry but I am so livid at Casey, I just want her to suffer severely for what she has done. SUFFER FAR MORE THAN I BELIEVE CAYLEE SUFFERED. I CAN'T EVEN GO THERE.... I am just sick ....
FL does have a working chair that can be used, at the request of the condemned.

Just remember this, Caylee is not suffering now and never will again.
It is finished.

[Sweetly]

Wonder what's taking the Conway presser so long? I would think he would want to get this part overwith so he could be with his clients! I cannot imagine being inside the Anthony home right now!

And, sorry about my electric chair comment. My loving mind is all out of kilter right now. I'm so heartbroken yet, so livid that Caylee may have experienced terror at the hands of her own mother, and I use the term "mother" very lightly!

[joolz]

What has he said? Gosh a couple of hours away and I feel so out of the loop.

Me too, what did NeJames say?

[Chongo]

My heart aches for the great-grandparents and for Caylee. She, along with other innocent children deserve to be loved and protected. I am glad that the "Casey coddling" has come to an end.

RIP Caylee :rose:

Shoot, we may have only just seen the beginning of the Casey coddling. Wasn't one of the spokesperson's statements that they are completely supporting their daughter at this time? (Sorry I don't remember if it was Baez or who). Oh I have a feeling Casey may be an ULTIMATE victim to them now, Poor, poor dear. :rolleyes:

[playnice]

Would someone fill me in on LeJames? Did he speak today? I really lost out being at work today.

[court~critic1®]

Those dogs are getting on my last nerve. They NEVER find bodies, and it is a smokescreen for the defense shills already firmly in place to spin this on the News.


What about the dogs involved with the Oklahoma City bombing, 9/11, Mexico City earthquake, and the list goes on, and on, how the dogs found bodies and living survivors.


I concur though with the defense spining, and spining, plus the smoke and mirrors.

[NikkiG77058]

This is soo depressing, I just heard the pathologist Cyril Wecht,say on Fox News that the cause of death will probably never be known because her little body was so decomposed,and he implied because of that there will likely be no conviction . Please someone tell me this isn't true! The very idea of the killer of this baby getting away with taking her life is almost too much to bear.

Don't pay attention to that crap, Taylor...keep in mind that they were never able to prove how Laci Peterson died either.

People are talking just to hear themselves talk at this point.

IMO

[cajunmoon]

This is soo depressing, I just heard the pathologist Cyril Wecht,say on Fox News that the cause of death will probably never be known because her little body was so decomposed,and he implied because of that there will likely be no conviction . Please someone tell me this isn't true! The very idea of the killer of this baby getting away with taking her life is almost too much to bear.

I think that they have enough to go with it. They have plenty of circumstantial evidence, and perpetrators have been convicted on pure CE.

[kitty1182]

Oh, yes, in court Baez will present the other half of the story, the story we don't know. The story which tells Casey's compelling reasons for being a total sociopathic killer.

I can hardly wait to hear it...

[WillowInFlight]

Did anyone hear about the book they found on the scene where the Caylee's remains were found, I heard it was the same book that she was reading on the video that NG keeps repeating.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,469785,00.html

Oh wow, I hadn't heard that.

[Regina.Lampert]

This is soo depressing, I just heard the pathologist Cyril Wecht,say on Fox News that the cause of death will probably never be known because her little body was so decomposed,and he implied because of that there will likely be no conviction . Please someone tell me this isn't true! The very idea of the killer of this baby getting away with taking her life is almost too much to bear.


It is definetly not true because no jury is going to let this babykiller off just because she hid the body long enought to loose most of it's evidentiary value. 31 days, that in addition to all the other circumstantial evidence they have will get a conviction.

Please everyone, just refrain from watching FOX. They have apparently taken a position against the Prosecution in this case, imo.

[bluwaters]

Casey Anthony told of Caylee ID shortly before public was told
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-caylee-jail-reaction-121908,0,4010091.story

[smileyjoe]

Would someone fill me in on LeJames? Did he speak today? I really lost out being at work today.

Just got home, not feeling very smiley now.

Is it true that Lee has hired an attorney?

What did Nejames say today?

Thanks.

Joe.

[I'mRight]

It isn't true.
The cause of death of Laci and Conner Peterson could not be determined but that didn't stop a jury from voting that Scott Peterson killed them even if they didn't know exactly how.

Why is Cyril Wecht still pontificating? Doesn't he have his own legal troubles to tend to??

I agree. There was way less evidence in the Scott Peterson case, but the jury still came through, just as they will for Caylee.

[legalmania]

Amazing... the meter reader guy's name is Roy Kronk..... heckuva lot different than "...Gonzalez", ain't it! Where on earth did that come from... it's been tossed around on a couple boards for several days now.

FBI reports they had followed up on out of state call in's, they can't find any body that exists with that name, but thanks to Roy Kronk he had a strong feeling and didn't let up.

[Dogmatic]

I can understand a prisoner getting to go to the funeral of a family member but it's hard to see them let her go to the funeral of her victim. Do they use the "innocent til proven guilty" as a determintor?

My post however was to stress the fact that I don't think she would care enough to ask to go.

Suppertime.......later :beer:


It is the presumption of innocence in court.

If they were actually thought to be innocent until proven guilty, they would be free to live in the community until their day of court.

The State thinks Casey is guilty. They have evidence and had filed charges before the body was found. She won't be attending the funeral

[MichelleP]

Just because there is no trauma to the bones doesn't mean she wasn't murdered.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Slain_woman_was_witness_in_murder_case.html

I wanted to see if you can be murdered and show signs of no trauma to the bones so I looked it up and found a case.

[Ladyhawk]

Was he in prison for killing her though? I know inmates can go to funerals while incarcerated but I don't think I have ever heard of someone being in jail being let out to attend their victims funeral...I could be wrong though. Ok maybe I shouldn't say never but I can't recall hearing of one.

Carol Carr was being held without bail for the murder of 2 of her sons and she was allowed to attend their funeral escorted by the sheriff. Her crime was really a mercy killing but Georgia doesn't allow mercy killing either so it was a murder charge for her. Her case doesn't compare to Casey since Carol didn't deny she killed them.

[Chongo]

I can understand a prisoner getting to go to the funeral of a family member but it's hard to see them let her go to the funeral of her victim. Do they use the "innocent til proven guilty" as a determintor?

My post however was to stress the fact that I don't think she would care enough to ask to go.

Suppertime.......later :beer:

In most cases they have to get a court order to attend services. I don't think she'll be given permission but you never know where the wild goose goes...

[Motomom]

I think the def will say the duct tape was on the bag not on Caylee, animals, the flooding etc just made it look like the duct tape was on her. I guess it depends where the duct tape actually was though and they will have pictures of that at trial.

Most definetly.. if the reports are true though..she's headed :thumbdown: Her only hopes right now IMO and I could be wrong is if she confesses everything and takes a plea..other than that she's done for.

Would anyone be opposed to her copping a plea now?? And say getting 30 yrs or something? I doubt anything will be offered but I don't know. I would be ok with that if she told the absolute truth about what happened... someone kick me cause I can't really think that way, but I want to know what happened to that baby. I want to know what why, where and when... course she is too young, 30 isn't long enough IMO.. Can't wait till she goes to the big house!!! Oh the mothers in there that can't see their kids..they're gonna love her!!

[~jomomma~]

Don't pay attention to that crap, Taylor...keep in mind that they were never able to prove how Laci Peterson died either.

People are talking just to hear themselves talk at this point.

IMO

they just had someone (i think a ME) on HLN and he was saying that it might be possible to detect chloroform in the hair. maybe they'll replay it.

[JD1974]

Several of us here on the board heard a FOX 35 newsreporter state that the meter readers name was German Gonzalez. Fact.


I said on the other board that I remember whoever called 911 wasn't actually the person who found the bag, I remember the guy at the beginning saying something like here he can tell you and someone else as put on the phone. Then I seen another poster said it was his superior who called 911 then patched the call to him, maybe the superiors is named Gonzales?

[Daisy'sMom]

It is definetly not true because no jury is going to let this babykiller off just because she hid the body long enought to loose most of it's evidentiary value. 31 days, that in addition to all the other circumstantial evidence they have will get a conviction.

Please everyone, just refrain from watching FOX. They have apparently taken a position against the Prosecution in this case, imo.

I never have understood why anyone would watch FOX News to begin with. It's like watching the National Enquirer on tv.

[Eli]

Oh wow, I hadn't heard that.

an earlier post proved it was not the same book...it was in the afternoon posting i think..she analized the video of Caylee and gave the name something like fuzzy paws..it was about kittens..it you look at the book in the picture...it looks like there is a duck or something on it...maybe you can do a search on the boards for fuzzy paws..

[joolz]

Will someone PLEASE answer a few of us who have asked what Nejames said?

[Chongo]

FL does have a working chair that can be used, at the request of the condemned.

Just remember this, Caylee is not suffering now and never will again.
It is finished.


Anyone here really good at throwing their voice? :thumbsup:

[cajunmoon]

they just had someone (i think a ME) on HLN and he was saying that it might be possible to detect chloroform in the hair. maybe they'll replay it.
I heard that and he said that chloroform forms in the early stages of decomposition and then went on to say that toxicology could be done from the hair. Then I lost him trying to listen post and read all at once.

[I'mRight]

I never have understood why anyone would watch FOX News to begin with. It's like watching the National Enquirer on tv.

LOL. Yep.

Say what you want about NG (I agree she's a bit nutty), but the thing that makes her brilliant is that she is 100% behind every victim. I have not met a man who likes her, but I find her endearing in an odd sort of way.

[bluwaters]

That was contained in Terence Lenamon's motion to the State's Attorney in which he explained why casey anthony should not be given the death penalty.

Lenamon may be back, if the DP gets put back on the table.

Does Casey have any kind of bargaining chip now, in case the State decides to go for the DP?
Manner of death?


Conway live now
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

[~jomomma~]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

conway!

[smileyjoe]

Will someone PLEASE answer a few of us who have asked what Nejames said?

Thank you in advance.

[court~critic1®]

Right you are. You know what I mean, though. The dogs in criminal cases, are always "bones" of contention.


Ahhh ha, the light bulb goes off in my aged brain. tks.

:blushing:

[Eli]

[QUOTE=Motomom;12560698]Most definetly.. if the reports are true though..she's headed :thumbdown: Her only hopes right now IMO and I could be wrong is if she confesses everything and takes a plea..other than that she's done for.

A good lawyer would tell her to take a plea...but she is so narcisstic..she thinks she can get away with it...

[NikkiG77058]

they just had someone (i think a ME) on HLN and he was saying that it might be possible to detect chloroform in the hair. maybe they'll replay it.

I am just praying that she left a fingerprint on the tape...as far as I am concerned, she murdered that baby but I know some will require a little more to be swayed...the fingerprint on the tape is definitive.

IMO

[Eli]

[QUOTE=bluwaters;12560719]Lenamon may be back, if the DP gets put back on the table.

Does Casey have any kind of bargaining chip now, in case the State decides to go for the DP?
Manner of death?


yes the truth:thumbup:

[rbrnmw]

I never have understood why anyone would watch FOX News to begin with. It's like watching the National Enquirer on tv.

or as my friend calls it faux spews

[joolz]

Thank you in advance.


Oops, forgot to add. TY:biggrin:

[Chongo]

Will someone PLEASE answer a few of us who have asked what Nejames said?

Can't.:blink:

[I'mRight]

[QUOTE=Motomom;12560698]Most definetly.. if the reports are true though..she's headed :thumbdown: Her only hopes right now IMO and I could be wrong is if she confesses everything and takes a plea..other than that she's done for.

A good lawyer would tell her to take a plea...but she is so narcisstic..she thinks she can get away with it...

I agree -- Juries do not like liars and Casey has lied repeatedly to police from day 1, not to mention the little 31 day problem that she has.

[bluwaters]

Good statement from Conway!

A's thank all who have/are praying for Caylee.
A's thanking LE!!!
A's want the answers.
A's will cooperate with LE.
A's request prayers for Caylee and the family.
Request to be able to grieve with dignity.

:rose:

I am impressed.
How terrible this is for them.

[JD1974]

Carol Carr was being held without bail for the murder of 2 of her sons and she was allowed to attend their funeral escorted by the sheriff. Her crime was really a mercy killing but Georgia doesn't allow mercy killing either so it was a murder charge for her. Her case doesn't compare to Casey since Carol didn't deny she killed them.


I wonder who decides who can and who cannot attend the funeral?

[Dogmatic]

[QUOTE=Motomom;12560698]Most definetly.. if the reports are true though..she's headed :thumbdown: Her only hopes right now IMO and I could be wrong is if she confesses everything and takes a plea..other than that she's done for.

A good lawyer would tell her to take a plea...but she is so narcisstic..she thinks she can get away with it...

I don't see her pleaing. I see her riding this pony to the end.

She wants back out so she can do what Casey does best...............

[cajunmoon]

Yes, and so is Michael Peterson. We did not always have these forensics and plenty of people were convicted. Also, Caylee is a child and IMO, the jury will be certain that she is given justice. Charges were brought in November. The state will prevail.mo

I was talking to some people from my local DAs office and they were saying that Caylee being a child takes away any hint of any excuse or mitigating factor. when there is an adult victim, sometimes there is some hint of some reason. won't happen in this case. If you know what I mean. Hard to put into words.

[~jomomma~]

I heard that and he said that chloroform forms in the early stages of decomposition and then went on to say that toxicology could be done from the hair. Then I lost him trying to listen post and read all at once.

i did that same thing too

[WillowInFlight]

I am just praying that she left a fingerprint on the tape...as far as I am concerned, she murdered that baby but I know some will require a little more to be swayed...the fingerprint on the tape is definitive.

IMO

I'm hoping the same thing.

[KatieKates]

RIP little Caylee!!! :rose:

[cloe23]

http://www.clickorlando.com/video/14013179/index.html

They keep cutting to a reporter standing in front of the house.

Is there something that needs to be clicked on once this link opens up? All I get is a news page. thanks to anyone who may know.

[playnice]

Is there something that needs to be clicked on once this link opens up? All I get is a news page. thanks to anyone who may know.

So do I.:mad:

[Sweetly]

Ohhh, how nice, NOW the Anthony's will cooperate with law enforcement. HOW LOVELY OF THEM!!! (sarcasm ADDED)! I will have to see ACTIONS applied to their words, in order to EVER believe this statement!!!!

[legalmania]

I said on the other board that I remember whoever called 911 wasn't actually the person who found the bag, I remember the guy at the beginning saying something like here he can tell you and someone else as put on the phone. Then I seen another poster said it was his superior who called 911 then patched the call to him, maybe the superiors is named Gonzales?

Would he have been that stupid if his family member told him where the body is to keep calling and then finally open the bag himself?

[Regina.Lampert]

Whoa, Conway just said that the anthonys want the public to know they are ready and willing to cooperate fully with law enforcement's investigation into this crime.

[Chongo]

I wonder who decides who can and who cannot attend the funeral?

The judge does in most jurisdictions.

[JD1974]

Most definetly.. if the reports are true though..she's headed :thumbdown: Her only hopes right now IMO and I could be wrong is if she confesses everything and takes a plea..other than that she's done for.

Would anyone be opposed to her copping a plea now?? And say getting 30 yrs or something? I doubt anything will be offered but I don't know. I would be ok with that if she told the absolute truth about what happened... someone kick me cause I can't really think that way, but I want to know what happened to that baby. I want to know what why, where and when... course she is too young, 30 isn't long enough IMO.. Can't wait till she goes to the big house!!! Oh the mothers in there that can't see their kids..they're gonna love her!!



I want to know all those answers also but I don't think she will ever take a plea, she will die (either naturally or by the state) stating she is innocent.

[WillowInFlight]

OK-need one of you experts to fill me in on this:

Caylee went to visit her great-grandfather in the nursing home on Father's Day, correct? That would have been what date?

Who took Caylee there? Was Casey with them? Then they went back to the Anthony's home to celebrate Father's Day later and had a big fight, correct?

Has Caylee ever been seen since then?

The reason why I am asking is that I am wondering if perhaps Caylee died that very night at her mother's angry hand and was kept in the trunk for a while. Then when George went to look in the trunk (what was that date?) Casey wouldn't let him go in there and he saw garbage bags and that is when she took off, probably dumped the body at the end of the road and that was that.

IMO
Cindy took Caylee, Casey did not go, after the nursing home they had dinner at Cindy's moms house.

[legalmania]

Is there something that needs to be clicked on once this link opens up? All I get is a news page. thanks to anyone who may know.

It went straight to video for me.

[smileyjoe]

[QUOTE=joolz;12560709]Will someone PLEASE answer a few of us who have asked what Nejames said?[/QUOTE He said it is a sad day...He is defending the meter reader. Not much else...I love Nejame now.mo

Thank you, what class, imo.

Joe.

[Motomom]

Thank you in advance.

Might I suggest checking the LINKS # 2 thread. It may be in there, the video of it. I watched it but did not pay much attention to what he said.

[Eli]

I want to know all those answers also but I don't think she will ever take a plea, she will die (either naturally or by the state) stating she is innocent.


you said it...i thought it...

[Cheri_G]

It is definetly not true because no jury is going to let this babykiller off just because she hid the body long enought to loose most of it's evidentiary value. 31 days, that in addition to all the other circumstantial evidence they have will get a conviction.

Please everyone, just refrain from watching FOX. They have apparently taken a position against the Prosecution in this case, imo.

I don't know about all of Fox but Geraldo certainly has. I heard him a little bit ago pretty much accuse OCSO of making up the August calls by the meter reader.

[WillowInFlight]

Ohhh, how nice, NOW the Anthony's will cooperate with law enforcement. HOW LOVELY OF THEM!!! (sarcasm ADDED)! I will have to see ACTIONS applied to their words, in order to EVER believe this statement!!!!

Yep, if they continue with the kidnapping nanny I will flip.

[joolz]

[QUOTE=joolz;12560709]Will someone PLEASE answer a few of us who have asked what Nejames said?[/QUOTE He said it is a sad day...He is defending the meter reader. Not much else...I love Nejame now.mo


Thank you!!!!!

[spiritwolf46]

Ohhh, how nice, NOW the Anthony's will cooperate with law enforcement. HOW LOVELY OF THEM!!! (sarcasm ADDED)! I will have to see ACTIONS applied to their words, in order to EVER believe this statement!!!!

I would like to hear an apology coming from the Anthonys to LE, FBI and the thousands of SEARCHERS who actually volunteered their own time to try to find this little girl. I won't hold my breath though.

[smileyjoe]

Whoa, Conway just said that the anthonys want the public to know they are ready and willing to cooperate fully with law enforcement's investigation into this crime.

:sneaky: Uh huh. Now?. Geez. Won't type the rest of my thoughts.