View Full Version : Friday, Dec 19, AFTERNOON, Part 2
WillowInFlight
12-19-2008, 04:00 PM
Why are they there?
Thats what I am wondering, looks like they are there for protection.
Sweetly
12-19-2008, 04:00 PM
Why would she need comfort, She has been living with this for months, she had to know that baby would be found sooner or later.
You surely speak the truth, NO COMFORT WHATSOEVER!!!!
marshmallow
12-19-2008, 04:00 PM
Its so sad the elevated level of hate and hostility directed at the grandparents of the little girl who was just officially declared dead. So sad.
read back and you'll find that there are quite a few posts that speak quite kindly of their pain.
HouseOfClark
12-19-2008, 04:01 PM
Baez still saying "you don't know half the story"
And he was ticked because HE wasn't notified first like he had asked. Doesn't he know the rules by now?
Oh, and he wanted to be there because him and his staff had been the closest to her these last few months.
So close that he left her all alone?
With friends like that.....
forpsystudent
12-19-2008, 04:01 PM
Because Dr. G didn't want to say Filicide which IMO is a more appropriate term for the manner of death.
I so agree LadyHawk.
I have done a lot of research into filicide and every single facet of that particular crime fits the evidence of this case. It isn't (filicide) easily understood nor is it common but it does happen and when it does, it happens just like this. JMO
cassidy
12-19-2008, 04:01 PM
Does anyone know who those two men are in front of the Anthony's house?
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
I don't know, but the on on the left makes Cindy look like a gum chewing amateur!
kitty1182
12-19-2008, 04:01 PM
Does anyone know who those two men are in front of the Anthony's house?
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
Looks like some type of LE to me..Don't know what they are waiting on..
LindaNJ1216
12-19-2008, 04:01 PM
Does anyone know who those two men are in front of the Anthony's house?
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
One of them chews gum like an Anthony
Look like body guards to me
Sweetly
12-19-2008, 04:01 PM
Are we expecting the Anthonys to make a statement? Unlikley unless they call in all the press they can find. More likely they will find some paid way to make a statement - back to Larry King?
No, none of the Anthony's will speak. Mr. Conway, the anthony's attorney will make the statement, according to the newscasters.
Mimi428
12-19-2008, 04:02 PM
I guess the reporter got the name wrong......it was reported his name was german gonzales...I wonder where she got that name....
I am pretty sure that was the name of the person who called 911 from the utility department.
Mr Kronk called his place of employment. Someone from there called 911 & told the operator that one of their employees had found the bag, skull, etc.
IOW, the person who called 911 was not the person who found the bag.
Sweetly
12-19-2008, 04:02 PM
I'm going to go get a new thread ready for us so ALL BE READY TO MOVE ON OVER TO IT! BRB!
MichelleP
12-19-2008, 04:03 PM
Can someone explain to me why they keep saying this? Just because there is not trauma to the bones? Now they can say she choked on gum and it is normal to hide her body in a garbage bag? I am upset about this.
That one lawyer is having a fit that it is being named a homicide, I don't understand that either since there are different levels of homicide, correct? Little Caylee didn't crawl in that garbage bag herself and toss herself in the woods. I don't get all this. :confused:
Who's saying she choked on gum?
kitty1182
12-19-2008, 04:03 PM
I think the camera needs to go away now too. Its very cruel to have it there.... imo
I bet you are watching it too..
taylor63
12-19-2008, 04:03 PM
Geraldo bloviating:
Maybe she had a heart attack????????
Oy vey!! What is he saying? That the tipster said there was "something stinking in a bag" and they didn't investigate???????
What an azzhat!
Of all the strange theories I have read/heard about this case that has to take the cake. A happy beautiful little 2 year old having a heart attack out of the clear blue? Makes about as much sense as the Weekly Word news article where Elvis was seen flying around in a UFO last year. I have lost any respect I ever had for Geraldo.
spydernweb2006
12-19-2008, 04:03 PM
I just got home and saw the news all I can say is Im crying. Poor lil baby.
JMHO
Hugs,
Spyder
Inscrutable
12-19-2008, 04:03 PM
First of all, I don't believe she said a COD would never be determined. She did say they were waiting for toxicological tests to be completed.
Second, when no body is recovered, or the body is so decomposed that a COD can't be determined, that doesn't mean that 1st degree premeditated murder is off the table. To the contrary, the totality of the circumstances can be enough to persuade a jury.
And when the defendant is particularly odious and her behavior completely heinous and callous, a conviction is that much more likely.
All good points. However, in response to your comment on toxicology, not to mention a number of other posts that seem to hold out hope that the toxicology analysis will reveal new evidence, I reviewed the ME's statement to make sure I heard what I thought I heard.
The ME stated: "Toxicology testing is still to be completed on the bone and hair. While this analysis may prove to be informative, it will be difficult to interpret levels from these specimens and thus will not be definitive in helping determine the cause of death." She added further "I would not have come up and stated the cause of death if I thought any additional bones would help."
I cannot see a path by which the ME's determination can be changed from "homicide by undetermined means." All other evidence aside, that seems to be positive for the defense.
Browneyes
12-19-2008, 04:03 PM
Who's saying she choked on gum?
Geraldo..... :wink:
Dogmatic
12-19-2008, 04:04 PM
Can someone explain to me why they keep saying this? Just because there is not trauma to the bones? Now they can say she choked on gum and it is normal to hide her body in a garbage bag? I am upset about this.
That one lawyer is having a fit that it is being named a homicide, I don't understand that either since there are different levels of homicide, correct? Little Caylee didn't crawl in that garbage bag herself and toss herself in the woods. I don't get all this. :confused:
I think everyone needs to remain calm. The ME's job is to identify the remains and state a cause of death based on the remains. That's it.
It's not the ME's job to incorporate all the other evidence gathered by LE up to this point, or the other evidence gathered at the scene. i.e. book, duct tape, clothing, etc.
Now it's time to wait for due process.
marshmallow
12-19-2008, 04:04 PM
Who's saying she choked on gum?
good old Geraldo
MichelleP
12-19-2008, 04:04 PM
Geraldo..... :wink:
LOL, what does he know? I never did like him.
Motomom
12-19-2008, 04:04 PM
this case just lends itself to every conceivable wild story we can imagine....sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.....:smile:
No doubt Summer..
Ohh listening to Baez.. he makes me so angry.. Caseys private moment?? CASEY"S PRIVATE MOMENT!!! Oh didn't she take a moment when she DUMPED that baby like she was garbage??
jakee
12-19-2008, 04:05 PM
Who's saying she choked on gum?
Oh, Geroldo said she could have choked on gum or have had a heart attack. Just his opinion, I should have clarified that. sorry.
Justice_Dawg
12-19-2008, 04:05 PM
Does anyone know who those two men are in front of the Anthony's house?
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
FBI maybe ???
WillowInFlight
12-19-2008, 04:05 PM
Who is this speaking now?
really3997
12-19-2008, 04:05 PM
What we don't know can't be as bad as what we do know. Caylee's body was put in a garbage bag and left to rot. Does he know something that would change tha? Or explain why? ( although there would be no reasonable explaination as to why).
I am confused at to what her "private moment" would be in this case...creepy
Stella Rose
12-19-2008, 04:06 PM
Baez still saying "you don't know half the story"
Unfortunately he is right. We don't know why his client killed her beautiful child, how she did it, how she could drive around with her body in the car for 2.5 days, or how she could bag her and dump her like garbage. So yeah, we don't know the half of it.
MichelleP
12-19-2008, 04:06 PM
Oh, Geroldo said she could have choked on gum or have had a heart attack. Just his opinion, I should have clarified that. sorry.
If it's homicide it doesn't sound like that's what happened.
Dogmatic
12-19-2008, 04:06 PM
All good points. However, in response to your comment on toxicology, not to mention a number of other posts that seem to hold out hope that the toxicology analysis will reveal new evidence, I reviewed the ME's statement to make sure I heard what I thought I heard.
The ME stated: "Toxicology testing is still to be completed on the bone and hair. While this analysis may prove to be informative, it will be difficult to interpret levels from these specimens and thus will not be definitive in helping determine the cause of death." She added further "I would not have come up and stated the cause of death if I thought any additional bones would help."
I cannot see a path by which the ME's determination can be changed from "homicide by undetermined means." All other evidence aside, that seems to be positive for the defense.
It may seem good for the defense because LE is now remaining tight lipped. Discovering that body will NOT prove to be good for the defense. They would like you to think that at the present time, but it's not good at all.
??WHATthe??
12-19-2008, 04:06 PM
read back and you'll find that there are quite a few posts that speak quite kindly of their pain.
ITA... Completely! We may have not liked how they have handled things, but nobody would want to be in their shoes right now! :sad:
I reserve my judgement on them pending the findings of just how they were involved in all of this... until then... my deapest condolences
LindaNJ1216
12-19-2008, 04:07 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
what the heck is GOING ON???
WowZer1
12-19-2008, 04:07 PM
Ugh is anyone else having problems wit the live feed>
kitty1182
12-19-2008, 04:07 PM
Look like FBI to me..
That's who it looks like to me too...
I'mRight
12-19-2008, 04:07 PM
Geraldo reminds me of one of those freaky people who believe in aliens. You all know the type: They exaggerate to no end, believe in psychics and all sorts of oddities.
LindaNJ1216
12-19-2008, 04:08 PM
Ugh is anyone else having problems wit the live feed>
YES!:w00t:
Peter
12-19-2008, 04:08 PM
I think everyone needs to remain calm. The ME's job is to identify the remains and state a cause of death based on the remains. That's it.
It's not the ME's job to incorporate all the other evidence gathered by LE up to this point, or the other evidence gathered at the scene. i.e. book, duct tape, clothing, etc.
Now it's time to wait for due process.
Do you know if the FBI will continue to do testing on the bones? Can they get toxicology reports from bones or hair?
Jaxnoeny
12-19-2008, 04:08 PM
Why homicide? It seems likely that the mother is responsible for the death and that she disposed of the body, but that does not make it a homicide.
I agree, and if they overcharge it.. they may not get the result they are looking for.
Wikipedia’s definition of Homicide refers to the act of killing another human being. It also states Homicides do not always involve a crime
Webster’s definition: a killing of one human being by another.
Homicide just means she was killed by another human. It doesn't have anything to do with the reason. It can still be a homicide if it was an accident.
(Sorry if I didn't quote properly. I am new and wasn't sure how to quote two posters)
MichelleP
12-19-2008, 04:08 PM
Well if the defense had wanted everyone to shut up, they should not have challenged the Gag Order!! They want this circus to continue and they "knew" it would!! mo
But I think that was before they found the body.
forpsystudent
12-19-2008, 04:09 PM
Looks like some type of LE to me..Don't know what they are waiting on..
Arrest?
JMO
5boxersmom
12-19-2008, 04:09 PM
You know there might have been dried blood on some of the duct tape and that is one of the reasons the ME said homicide.
imo
Sweetly
12-19-2008, 04:09 PM
NEW THREAD IS ALL READY FOR US. YOU WILL FIND IT HERE:
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12560191#post12560191
GET READY TO MOVE OVER, PLEASE
LindaNJ1216
12-19-2008, 04:09 PM
Do you know if the FBI will continue to do testing on the bones? Can they get toxicology reports from bones or hair?
yes and yes. Usually it takes 5-6 weeks.
jen325
12-19-2008, 04:09 PM
I don't know why my title got edited, when I quoted "Mother of the Year" informed child was dead. I was referring to the fact that is what Cindy Anthony said about her.
bchand
12-19-2008, 04:09 PM
All good points. However, in response to your comment on toxicology, not to mention a number of other posts that seem to hold out hope that the toxicology analysis will reveal new evidence, I reviewed the ME's statement to make sure I heard what I thought I heard.
The ME stated: "Toxicology testing is still to be completed on the bone and hair. While this analysis may prove to be informative, it will be difficult to interpret levels from these specimens and thus will not be definitive in helping determine the cause of death." She added further "I would not have come up and stated the cause of death if I thought any additional bones would help."
I cannot see a path by which the ME's determination can be changed from "homicide by undetermined means." All other evidence aside, that seems to be positive for the defense.
Thank you for your views. All make sense except it being a positive for the defense. We may not ever know how she did it, but she did it. I don't think it will affect the outcome of the trial.
LindaNJ1216
12-19-2008, 04:10 PM
You know there might have been dried blood on some of the duct tape and that is one of the reasons the ME said homicide.
emo
Because she was found stuffed In a garbage bag, ducted taped and dumped is enough to rule it a homicide
trich
12-19-2008, 04:10 PM
I don't know why I am listening to him. I like Shep though. Geraldo said Henry Lee wouldn't have gone in and snuck a tiny bone out or something. Didn't Henry Lee do that with a finger nail Geroldo?
Well Shep mis spoke when he said The meter reader saw bones back in August.
That really disappointed me about Shep.
Someone either gave him misinformation or he just said that to sensationalize the whole thing.
Boy I am getting more and more angry with the media.
SwFlorida
12-19-2008, 04:11 PM
I think everyone needs to remain calm. The ME's job is to identify the remains and state a cause of death based on the remains. That's it.
It's not the ME's job to incorporate all the other evidence gathered by LE up to this point, or the other evidence gathered at the scene. i.e. book, duct tape, clothing, etc.
Now it's time to wait for due process.
But, but how can she say cause of death is homicide?
HouseOfClark
12-19-2008, 04:11 PM
That's who it looks like to me too...
For what purpose would the FBI be standing around in front of the house?
IMO, it's some type of private security hired by the new attorney.
They don't look mean enough to actually fight off any unwanted intruders, do you think?
Jaxnoeny
12-19-2008, 04:11 PM
Do you know if the FBI will continue to do testing on the bones? Can they get toxicology reports from bones or hair?
Not all substances leave traces in hair and bones. I think that is why Dr. G. made the statement about toxicology results werent in but she didn't think they would show anything. That was not her exact words but something to that effect.
WillowInFlight
12-19-2008, 04:11 PM
All these people in front of the house is just wrong.
Justice_Dawg
12-19-2008, 04:12 PM
Arrest?
JMO
My thoughts exactly. They almost look like Federal Marshals.
forpsystudent
12-19-2008, 04:12 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
what the heck is GOING ON???
If it is credible (FOX's live cam) there are a lot of people gathering and you can hear a helicopter flying overhead. Interesting...
JD1974
12-19-2008, 04:12 PM
Of all the strange theories I have read/heard about this case that has to take the cake. A happy beautiful little 2 year old having a heart attack out of the clear blue? Makes about as much sense as the Weekly Word news article where Elvis was seen flying around in a UFO last year. I have lost any respect I ever had for Geraldo.
Kids can and do have heart attacks, believe it or not, it is rare though. I just can't believe it in THIS case. If she had a heart attack why not rush her to the ER, no instead lets say she was kidnapped?? Makes no sense.
LindaNJ1216
12-19-2008, 04:12 PM
A lot of people believe in aliens.
lots of people believe in psychics too...just because many people believe something doesn't make it fact
Dogmatic
12-19-2008, 04:13 PM
Do you know if the FBI will continue to do testing on the bones? Can they get toxicology reports from bones or hair?
Yes they can, but the levels of toxins may not be definite.
We all just need to realize that prosecuting Casey just got easier, by finding the remains, because the family can't continue to beat the "cops need to search for a live Caylee" drum any longer.
Caylee died at the hands of vile and heartless person. Not many people in this world can throw away a childs' body like yesterday's trash.
It matters not if she died accidentally or by design.
The disposal of her remains was haphazard, disrespectful, and heartless.
Justice will be seen at the end of a long and painful circus.
Sweetly
12-19-2008, 04:13 PM
new thread is all ready for us. You will find it here:
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12560191#post12560191
get ready to move over, please
please get ready everyone. Reposting this so you all are sure to see it cuz we are getting close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All these people in front of the house is just wrong.
What kind of person goes there???
forpsystudent
12-19-2008, 04:13 PM
My thoughts exactly. They almost look like Federal Marshals.
Well, it IS Christmas and all. JMOO
Regina.Lampert
12-19-2008, 04:14 PM
But, but how can she say cause of death is homicide?
Because she made the determination based on crimescene evidence and other circumstantial evidence in addition to the remains, which were found in a garbage bag in the woods.
kellabeck
12-19-2008, 04:14 PM
Can someone explain to me why they keep saying this? Just because there is not trauma to the bones? Now they can say she choked on gum and it is normal to hide her body in a garbage bag? I am upset about this.
That one lawyer is having a fit that it is being named a homicide, I don't understand that either since there are different levels of homicide, correct? Little Caylee didn't crawl in that garbage bag herself and toss herself in the woods. I don't get all this. :confused:
They keep saying this because they are just provocateurs or defense attorneys who always say stuff like this.
Their statements are ignorant as we know there have been first degree murder charges absent cause of death, absent a body even, resulting in convictions.
It's absurd to suggest that Caylee died a natural death and that trashing her little body while whooping it up in Fusian and not telling anyone for 31 days are consistent. It's BS.
marshmallow
12-19-2008, 04:14 PM
Geraldo reminds me of one of those freaky people who believe in aliens. You all know the type: They exaggerate to no end, believe in psychics and all sorts of oddities.
I believe in the possiblity of aliens and I love Star Trek too :thumbup:
MalloryCat
12-19-2008, 04:14 PM
Police don't generally loiter outside the home of people they are about to arrest. I'd say they are there for protection, because there no doubt will be more trespassers/well wishers coming by. imo
No kidding. Not to mention there is a rumored press conference supposedly coming from there later, so that may explain it, but of course there is the hoping these shattered people are further punished.
jmo
Neffy
12-19-2008, 04:15 PM
For what purpose would the FBI be standing around in front of the house?
IMO, it's some type of private security hired by the new attorney.
They don't look mean enough to actually fight off any unwanted intruders, do you think?
They look very young to be FBI.
Dark glasses, cell phone clip on, blue tooth on ear - Heck today, means nothing.
LindaNJ1216
12-19-2008, 04:15 PM
What kind of person goes there???
People that feel like they knew her and are seeking some sort of closure, want to meet like minded people, nosey types, the curious and the well intentioned. imo
Jaxnoeny
12-19-2008, 04:16 PM
Kids can and do have heart attacks, believe it or not, it is rare though. I just can't believe it in THIS case. If she had a heart attack why not rush her to the ER, no instead lets say she was kidnapped?? Makes no sense.
When my daughter was in kindergarten a little boy in her class died during playtime from a heart attack. The parents were not aware that he had a heart problem. I agree with you why try to cover it up if that was the case?
marshmallow
12-19-2008, 04:16 PM
Can someone explain to me why they keep saying this?
Geraldo gets more people to tune in because of the provoking things he says than for his astute comments. He knows people will watch to see what he says if he angers them up.
and, in my personal opinion, because he is a twit.
Sweetly
12-19-2008, 04:16 PM
please get ready everyone. Reposting this so you all are sure to see it cuz we are getting close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NEW THREAD IS READY ALLL!!!!!!! PLEASE LET'S GO BEFORE THE PRESSER BY CONWAY!!!!
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12560191#post12560191
Dogmatic
12-19-2008, 04:16 PM
But, but how can she say cause of death is homicide?
Based on what she saw, which she is not sharing.
i.e. duct tape around a head for instance?
body stuffed in trash bag and taped up?
Whatever she saw, she determined it appeared to be a homicide.
LindaNJ1216
12-19-2008, 04:16 PM
This case seems similiar to the Cindy Sommer case.
oh just stop:huh: this case is nothing like it.
kellabeck
12-19-2008, 04:17 PM
This case seems similiar to the Cindy Sommer case.
Wow! I don't see that at all.
armywife1998
12-19-2008, 04:17 PM
Looking at the live feed of the house, it doesn't look like private security to me, IMO. When one of the guys, on our right, turns, it looks like he is wearing a badge of some sort. They also look like they both have gun holsters, again, JMHO.
*MoonRider*
12-19-2008, 04:17 PM
Oh, Geroldo said she could have choked on gum or have had a heart attack. Just his opinion, I should have clarified that. sorry.
You can contact the idiot Geraldo at atlarge@foxnews.com
cajunmoon
12-19-2008, 04:17 PM
If it is credible (FOX's live cam) there are a lot of people gathering and you can hear a helicopter flying overhead. Interesting...
Is that the anthony's home?
marshmallow
12-19-2008, 04:17 PM
NEW THREAD IS READY ALLL!!!!!!! PLEASE LET'S GO BEFORE THE PRESSER BY CONWAY!!!!
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12560191#post12560191
not at 1000 yet.
forpsystudent
12-19-2008, 04:17 PM
They look very young to be FBI.
Dark glasses, cell phone clip on, blue tooth on ear - Heck today, means nothing.
Yeah, but they both have what appears to be badges on the right front side of their belts (their right) alongside cell clips on the opposite side. JMO
Mimi428
12-19-2008, 04:18 PM
I am confused at to what her "private moment" would be in this case...creepy
All I can guess is that Baez wants to promote the idea that the chaplain at the jail is an inappropriate person to notify Casey.
But ultimately, I don't give a rat's patoot about anything the man says. He really does not bother me one iota. He had a motive that compelled him to take this case. He has a motive for wanting his client to appear to be a grieving mother. It is in his best interests (for future clients, perhaps being asked for commentary on some of the programs like NG) to be on camera as much as he can be. If he can convince any potential jurors that his client has been treated unfairly, she benefits.
It's a free country. He can spout, he can spin. When it comes to the trial portion & courtroom time, Baez will NOT be the one to place his hand on a bible & swear to tell the truth. I have every confidence that the DA's office will make that patently clear to the jury.
Don't look at him as a potential source of credible information - look at him to observe & learn what machinations people will go through when they want to be on camera.
JMO
forpsystudent
12-19-2008, 04:18 PM
Is that the anthony's hjome?
Yep, it is.
HouseOfClark
12-19-2008, 04:18 PM
They look very young to be FBI.
Dark glasses, cell phone clip on, blue tooth on ear - Heck today, means nothing.
Sort of a modern day Blues Brothers.
LindaNJ1216
12-19-2008, 04:18 PM
Well.. I think it is. Homicide based on behavior after the fact.
stuffed in a garabge bag and dumped is after the fact?
bchand
12-19-2008, 04:19 PM
Is that the anthony's home?
Yes it is cajunmoon.
bchand
12-19-2008, 04:20 PM
Sort of a modern day Blues Brothers.
lol that's what I was thinking. I'd like to smack the guy who's chewing that gum though.
Sweetly
12-19-2008, 04:20 PM
NEW THREAD IS READY ALLL!!!!!!! PLEASE LET'S GO BEFORE THE PRESSER BY CONWAY!!!!
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12560191#post12560191
FOR CAYLEE, THE COLOR PURPLE :crying: :crying: COME ON OVER EVERYONE!!! NEW THREAD IS UP AND ACTIVE!!! LAST POST I'M GOING TO MAKE...
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12560191#post12560191
cajunmoon
12-19-2008, 04:21 PM
Well.. I think it is. Homicide based on behavior after the fact.
ps.. I am not saying I think Casey isn't guilty of homicide. But she deserves to be tried.
Behavior after the fact plus although they couldn't tell the COD they have circumstantial forensic links. IMO
JD1974
12-19-2008, 04:21 PM
When my daughter was in kindergarten a little boy in her class died during playtime from a heart attack. The parents were not aware that he had a heart problem. I agree with you why try to cover it up if that was the case?
Exactly, unless it was because of something she had given/done to her that caused a heart attack, plus say she did have a heart attack, Casey is still on the hook because obviously she left her alone or else she would of noticed. I still say though that it didn't happen unless it was brought on by something Casey did or gave her.
GentleBreeze
12-19-2008, 04:21 PM
YES!:w00t:
Yes! :thumbdown:
Cury-us Coyote
12-19-2008, 04:21 PM
All these people in front of the house is just wrong.
IMO, Conway's alleged promise of a upcoming statement is keeping the media there on Hopesprings. Had BC announced a remote location elsewhere, maybe some of the media would leave.
jmo
LindaNJ1216
12-19-2008, 04:21 PM
Technically...yes.
Circumstances BEFORE also point to it being a homicide as well
bluwaters
12-19-2008, 04:22 PM
They look very young to be FBI.
Dark glasses, cell phone clip on, blue tooth on ear - Heck today, means nothing.
FBI smacking gum?!?!
I hope not.
I think they are body guards.
HouseOfClark
12-19-2008, 04:22 PM
Yeah, but they both have what appears to be badges on the right front side of their belts (their right) alongside cell clips on the opposite side. JMO
You can buy those badges online.
IMO, these are not FBI.
Federal Bureau of Investigation, not private bodyguards.
IMO
Mimi428
12-19-2008, 04:23 PM
You know there might have been dried blood on some of the duct tape and that is one of the reasons the ME said homicide.
imo
I am also thinking that the tape might have been recovered still in a circle - one end taped to the other - & that the measurements matched the circumference around the skull.
JMO
~jomomma~
12-19-2008, 04:23 PM
just getting home from work. where are you seeing people at the house? i have the link for the live feed of the front door with 2 guys, is there another?
cloe23
12-19-2008, 04:23 PM
Baez still say "you don't know half the story"
IMO Baez knows less then what we do. I think this because I think that he is right in the middle of Casey's lies/spins/webs.
What if once the defence experts get done with their investigation's that they shake some reality into Baez and he stops with the kool aid?
Baez should not be talking with to the media, jmo.
Casey is beyond hope.
joint-heir
12-19-2008, 04:24 PM
Those two out front look like the henchmen guarding the mafia (no disrepect for law intended).
JD1974
12-19-2008, 04:24 PM
lots of people believe in psychics too...just because many people believe something doesn't make it fact
Just because people believe in that kind of stuff doesn't mean there is something wrong with them though...I personally don't but to each their own.
MichelleP
12-19-2008, 04:25 PM
Well.. I think it is. Homicide based on behavior after the fact.
ps.. I am not saying I think Casey isn't guilty of homicide. But she deserves to be tried.
She is going to be tried.
joint-heir
12-19-2008, 04:25 PM
You're right, all Baez should have said is "no comment"... He only digs his hole deeper when he talks!!!
LindaNJ1216
12-19-2008, 04:27 PM
Just because people believe in that kind of stuff doesn't mean there is something wrong with them though...I personally don't but to each their own.
IMO it makes them gullible. I can not believe in something without a shred of evidence
This board is very slow. I just emailed my complaints about Geraldo to Geraldo, not like it will do any good! :thumbdown:
Carol25
12-19-2008, 04:29 PM
hAVE THE FINGERPRINTS COME BACK? Are the Anthony's home?
spiritwolf46
12-19-2008, 04:29 PM
I'm furioius and will give him a piece of my mind!!
I
I just did and MAN, do I feel better!
JD1974
12-19-2008, 04:30 PM
The heart attack comment is prepostrous. Unless Caylee had a congenital heart defect (which could be confirmed by her ultrasound Cindy hung on the wall), that theory is highly unlikely.
IN THIS CASE yeah it is, but in general kids can and do have them. It is highly unlikely but not preposterous, because it can happen.
MalloryCat
12-19-2008, 04:33 PM
IN THIS CASE yeah it is, but in general kids can and do have them. It is highly unlikely but not preposterous, because it can happen.
Right, not even close to being preposterous....
I do not think thats what happened here however.
taylor63
12-19-2008, 04:33 PM
Kids can and do have heart attacks, believe it or not, it is rare though. I just can't believe it in THIS case. If she had a heart attack why not rush her to the ER, no instead lets say she was kidnapped?? Makes no sense.
Oh I know that,my point was his[Geraldos] whole premise of Caylee having a heart attack,and Casey throwing her in a trash bag like she was garbage, instead of calling 911 to try and save her, is just so outrageous that is bears the scorn I used in my post.
Auburngirl
12-19-2008, 04:38 PM
Oh I know that,my point was his[Geraldos] whole premise of Caylee having a heart attack,and Casey throwing her in a trash bag like she was garbage, instead of calling 911 to try and save her, is just so outrageous that is bears the scorn I used in my post.
I understood you perfectly taylor. Geraldo and Casey might share the same gene pool. Both have a tendency to say whatever is helpful to their cause.
clara2
12-19-2008, 05:00 PM
Im watching the live feed in front of the Anthony house right now,the reporter is laughing and fixing her hair....waiting to start recording
but what are they waiting for ...the Anthonys to come out of the house or the lawyer with a statement?
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7943664&version=17&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
oops I just lost the feed!!
there are two men walking back and forth in front of the home(look like maybe cops or bodyguards...helicopters can be heard in the backround
spageddy
12-19-2008, 05:01 PM
good afternoon all,
Busy getting ready to get hit by Mother Nature again- but I had to check in to see what I'm missing. A couple of questions:
Does anyone know who the meter reader is, or how old he is? also, is he aquainted with either KioMarie and/or Lee?just wondering.
tia:unsure:
courtsinsession
12-19-2008, 05:24 PM
hAVE THE FINGERPRINTS COME BACK? Are the Anthony's home? :
Great question; how come none of those brilliant talking heads are asking questions and pointing out that just because the cause of death can't be proven by exam of the body, if Casey's fingerprints and other stuff found at the crime scene are tied to her, that is just as good. Sometimes I am so disappointed in these so called experts, who really, in fact, sound stupid.
I heard the mother would cholorform little Caylee so she could party at night and one night she just gave that poor baby too much. I don't have a link, just something I heard from someone that read about this. Sorry if I got the info wrong.
Callie
12-19-2008, 05:47 PM
While we wait:
Please Light a Candle for Caylee
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle
:rose::rose::rose:
Thanks for the link. I just lit my candle for Caylee.
happygert
12-19-2008, 05:50 PM
IMO, Conway's alleged promise of a upcoming statement is keeping the media there on Hopesprings. Had BC announced a remote location elsewhere, maybe some of the media would leave.
jmo
Missed all the PC but the first one .. anymore going on? or anylinks to the other ones.
norwood
12-19-2008, 06:08 PM
you are so right; it is so obvious with Greta so I don't watch her that much.
I stopped watching Greta a long time ago. She has lost all credibility with me and is way too far into the political machine that is Fox News for my taste. She also proved to me during the Natalie search that she was no better than Geraldo.
I prefer to watch the actual news that has facts as they are revealed and not the speculation from the TH's.
I do watch NG but with several large grains of salt.
I miss the old days of court tv.
courtsinsession
12-19-2008, 06:29 PM
I stopped watching Greta a long time ago. She has lost all credibility with me and is way too far into the political machine that is Fox News for my taste. She also proved to me during the Natalie search that she was no better than Geraldo.
I prefer to watch the actual news that has facts as they are revealed and not the speculation from the TH's.
I do watch NG but with several large grains of salt.
I miss the old days of court tv.
I hear ya; i really really miss the old days of court TV: i used to listen to it on my sirius radio on my way to work and coming home too; this was great especially when the Scott Peterson trial was going on; those were the days. remember when Court TV was on till what was it 5 pm and then there was another show with that judge(forgot her name now) and they would talk about the trial and other crime news. Sigh
Dogmatic
12-19-2008, 06:44 PM
Here's a thought...when the Anthony's recently asked for immunity I thought they asked for is because of there conflicting statements given to LE. After discussing the case with some people...here's another thought regarding them asking for immunity...they ask for immunity...if and when they get it...all of a sudden Cindy admits to killing Caylee by accident...she can't be arrested because she has immunity and casey could go free.
Oh Lord. Let's hope not
hamebone
12-19-2008, 06:50 PM
I just heard they ID Caylee, :crying:.
Has the Anthonys made a statement?
Chele72
12-19-2008, 06:56 PM
I've felt little Caylee was gone from the moment I started following this story.
I knew the remains found were hers.
Even still.. I am heartbroken for that precious girl.. and I can't do anything but go hold my own princess and cry.
suso3280
12-19-2008, 07:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PeAjAYDRDU
Life w/o parole, and this video playing 24/7 in your cell until you die...:angry:
Rest In Peace Sweet Baby girl... A mother and grandma
suso3280
12-19-2008, 07:14 PM
I just heard they ID Caylee, :crying:.
Has the Anthonys made a statement?
Nothing yet, perhaps through their atty. on one of the news shows tonight. I can't wait to hear Cindys statement, I did hear rumor of them blaming the city worker who called in the find, perhaps saying he was implicated in some way.
This is the saddest case I've ever followed. :crying:
redcard
12-19-2008, 07:23 PM
Nothing yet, perhaps through their atty. on one of the news shows tonight. I can't wait to hear Cindys statement, I did hear rumor of them blaming the city worker who called in the find, perhaps saying he was implicated in some way.
This is the saddest case I've ever followed. :crying:
Well, it does make me wonder.
If he has called this in three or four times, why'd he tell people he was just "going in to take a whiz."
Remember, criminals always return to the scene of the crime, repeatedly.
I'd be VERY curious about this guy's whereabouts. It's just due dilligence to look this stuff up. If the sherrifs don't make certain, then the defense attorneys definitely will.
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