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So OJ could get a new trial because of an ineffective attorney?
IMO he won't get another trial because it was all on tape.
Yale's job is to find a technicality. This is OJ's only out. Yale may do alot but he's not going to roll on his side for OJ to claim ineffective counsel.
OJ is Guilty that won't change.
Yale's job is to find a technicality. This is OJ's only out. Yale may do alot but he's not going to roll on his side for OJ to claim ineffective counsel.
OJ is Guilty that won't change.
ITA! The tapes proved that.
AnnInOhio
12-08-2008, 09:26 AM
ITA! The tapes proved that.
Those tapes were such a slam dunk that I still can't fathom why Galanter made no effort to question them or have them thrown out. I believe he went so far as to say something to the effect of the defense welcomed them into the trial.
Those tapes were such a slam dunk that I still can't fathom why Galanter made no effort to question them or have them thrown out. I believe he went so far as to say something to the effect of the defense welcomed them into the trial.
Either he didn't listen to them himself first or he's as arrogant as his client. IMO
AnnInOhio
12-08-2008, 09:33 AM
Either he didn't listen to them himself first or he's as arrogant as his client. IMO
At least Stewarts bumbling idiot attorneys secured on record that they objected to them.
Yale is arrogant and not the most honest lawyer out there. Is it me, but doesn't it seem like Yale pretends those tapes just don't exist?
Yale uses the word PASSIONATE and not VIOLENT as Judge Glass did in regards to what we heard on those tapes.
Yale uses the word PASSIONATE and not VIOLENT as Judge Glass did in regards to what we heard on those tapes.
Well he was certainly violently passionate IMO
He was violently arrogant. :lol:
And it caught up with him.
Those tapes were such a slam dunk that I still can't fathom why Galanter made no effort to question them or have them thrown out. I believe he went so far as to say something to the effect of the defense welcomed them into the trial.
Probably because Galanter is making big bucks off of OJ. If OJ was NOT convicted...the gravy train would have stopped. Galanter said he was not upset about the verdict! Of course not, think of all the money he will be raking in with years and years and years of appeals.
Probably because Galanter is making big bucks off of OJ. If OJ was NOT convicted...the gravy train would have stopped. Galanter said he was not upset about the verdict! Of course not, think of all the money he will be raking in with years and years and years of appeals.
As long as Simpson has an income (pension) Yale will be there to represent him.
Stewart sounds pretty wiped out. I believe he lost most everything.
As long as Simpson has an income (pension) Yale will be there to represent him.
Stewart sounds pretty wiped out. I believe he lost most everything.
Yep Stewarts attorney said he was wiped out.
:thumbup: OJ Simpson transferred from Vegas to Nevada prison (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081208/ap_on_re_us/oj_simpson) :thumbsup:
Wow! That was fast! Wonder where they're going to send Stewart?
The quicker, the better. :smile:
I would think Stewart is going to the same place.
High Desert State Prison in Indian Springs. Medium security.
That's the intake prison though isn't it?
Do they really want those two hanging out with each other at the same jail?
If I were Stewart I wouldn't want to be.
Details
12-08-2008, 05:07 PM
Those tapes were such a slam dunk that I still can't fathom why Galanter made no effort to question them or have them thrown out. I believe he went so far as to say something to the effect of the defense welcomed them into the trial.IMO - that was for the jury's benefit. I think he knew he couldn't get them excluded (and I thought they tried, in the pre-hearings?), so better to put on a pose for the jury that the tapes proved his client innocent, and hope they might buy that.
No matter how good an attorney you are, you can't do everything - I don't think they could have excluded those tapes no matter what they tried. Given that, Yale only had so many options.
:thumbup: OJ Simpson transferred from Vegas to Nevada prison (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081208/ap_on_re_us/oj_simpson) :thumbsup:
Boy that fake stache and beard from the ol bronco ride could have came in handy. :w00t:
warhorse46
12-09-2008, 11:18 AM
Simpson better be careful if He's incarcerated with Stewart. :laugh:
imo
I read on a crawl on the Texas Cable News Network that OJ was transfered last night to the intake facility to start serving his sentence. He will be there about 3 weeks undergoing physical & mental evaluations so they can determine which facility will be best to house him in for his sentence.
legalmania
12-09-2008, 12:23 PM
I'm pretty sure he'll end up at Eglin. It may take a few months but he'll get there.
I think it would be great if oj would be put in Nevada's worse prison, in gen pop, and it is FAR from LV. Why should the state make it easy for his !*#$ lawyers!?!? :thumbsup:
I just watched, for the first time, oj's whining sniffling comments to the court and that had to be the best acting job he has ever done!! Except for the many parts where oj let his arrogance & self-importance slip out!!
Book em Dano
Offender ID Number: 1027820
http://www.doc.nv.gov/notis/detail.php?offender_id=1027820
That document is a great start, but I think there is an error?!
"Known Aliases: (None) " ?????
Shouldn't oj be listed as this convicts alias?:unsure:
Yea saw that. Where's Juice or his new one that everyone is using including his attorneys: STOOPID
I think one of the worst things would be having to eat prison food. I couldnt imagine not having what I wanted.
legalmania
12-09-2008, 08:07 PM
For those of you who find it to hard to believe that people in certain prisons don't have privileges just go to leisures. I've have seen many high profile cases go there and actually visited them while they were seeking appeal.
http://www.united-publishers.com/EglinGuide/70th.html
:confused:
Welcome to Eglin Air Force Base
Eglin Air Force Base belongs to the Air Force Materiel Command, headquartered at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio.
:confused:
Perhaps your talking of the Federal prison on Florida?
Oh that can't be right! article dated 2006
http://www.forbes.com/2006/04/17/best-prisons-federal_cx_lr_06slate_0418bestprisons.html
"Eglin Federal Prison Camp in Florida. (Eglin was once considered so cushy that the term "Club Fed" was actually coined to describe it. It was recently closed.) "
In any event this has what to do with OJ? A link was provided for you with Nevada law and incarceration requests.
legalmania
12-09-2008, 09:03 PM
Welcome to Eglin Air Force Base
Eglin Air Force Base belongs to the Air Force Materiel Command, headquartered at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio.
:confused:
Perhaps your talking of the Federal prison on Florida?
Oh that can't be right! article dated 2006
http://www.forbes.com/2006/04/17/best-prisons-federal_cx_lr_06slate_0418bestprisons.html
"Eglin Federal Prison Camp in Florida. (Eglin was once considered so cushy that the term "Club Fed" was actually coined to describe it. It was recently closed.) "
In any event this has what to do with OJ? A link was provided for you with Nevada law and incarceration requests.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/11/business/media/11black.html
Recently closed guess again. It has plenty to do with OJ. IMO he will be transferred in a few months. He'll be moved around for awhile but will end up there.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/11/business/media/11black.html
Recently closed guess again. It has plenty to do with OJ. IMO he will be transferred in a few months. He'll be moved around for awhile but will end up there.
Perhaps if you can supply a link that does not connect an article that was guessing where he was being sent it would help
Mr. Black, who will most likely serve his sentence at a federal prison camp at Eglin Air Force Base, about 500 miles from his home in Palm Beach, Fla., was allowed to remain free on bail until March 3.
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=NameSearch&needingMoreList=false&FirstName=conrad&Middle=m&LastName=black&Race=U&Sex=U&Age=&x=94&y=16
A link to the Federal Prison OPEN on Eglin AirForce base itself would be dandy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/11/business/media/11black.html
Recently closed guess again. It has plenty to do with OJ. IMO he will be transferred in a few months. He'll be moved around for awhile but will end up there.
:lol: :thumbsup: :lol:
Right!
So far you've provided a link to Wright Patterson in Ohio and an article that does not say Conrad Black HAS been sent and is at Eglin. Very confusing. I'm not the one taking guesses.
fbgweezer
12-09-2008, 10:55 PM
I found this:
". . .Verdict and sentence
After twelve days of deliberation, on 13 July 2007, the jury found Black guilty of three counts of mail and wire fraud and one count of obstruction of justice and acquitted him of nine other charges, including wire fraud and racketeering. The fraud convictions related to money taken by the executives in exchange for their agreements to not compete with a Hollinger unit. Prosecutors said these were sham agreements. [34] Co-accused, Peter Y. Atkinson, John A. Boultbee and Mark Kipnis, were each found guilty of mail and wire fraud.[35]
On November 5, 2007, Judge Amy St. Eve denied Black's bid for a new trial. On December 10, 2007, Black was sentenced to 78 months in jail.[36] Twelve weeks later, he lost a bid in the Court of Appeals to remain free on bail while appealing his convictions. Black requested to be housed in a minimum security prison camp near Miami but the Bureau of Prisons denied his request and instead ordered him to report to Coleman Federal Correctional Complex near Orlando, Florida on March 3, 2008 to begin serving his sentence. Unless his convictions are overturned on appeal, Black's projected release date is October, 2013. . ."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_Black
and this:
"Coleman Federal Correctional Complex (FCC) is an American prison facility near Coleman, Florida. It consists of three facilities:
FCI Coleman Low - A low security Federal Correctional Institution.
FCI Coleman Medium - A medium security Federal Correctional Institution with an adjacent satellite camp for minimum security female offenders.
USP Coleman I and II - High security United States Penitentiaries
Some well known people have served time there, including the fashion mogul Steve Madden[citation needed] and, as of 2008, former newspaper mogul Conrad Black.[1]
Coleman FCC is located off of Interstate 75, exit 321, and exit 296 of Florida's Turnpike."
Coleman Federal Correctional Complex (FCC) is an American prison facility near Coleman, Florida. It consists of three facilities:
FCI Coleman Low - A low security Federal Correctional Institution.
FCI Coleman Medium - A medium security Federal Correctional Institution with an adjacent satellite camp for minimum security female offenders.
USP Coleman I and II - High security United States Penitentiaries
Some well known people have served time there, including the fashion mogul Steve Madden[citation needed] and, as of 2008, former newspaper mogul Conrad Black.[1]
Coleman FCC is located off of Interstate 75, exit 321, and exit 296 of Florida's Turnpike.
fbgweezer
12-09-2008, 10:58 PM
doesn't sound like wine, women and song to me!
". . .For former media tycoon Lord Black of Crossharbour, it will be a rude awakening - at six in the morning - to his first day as an prisoner in a Florida jail.
Lord Black - or inmate 18330-424 as he is listed on the Federal Bureau of Prisons website - will climb out of the bunk bed in his prison dormitory, don his regulation green shirt and trousers and join the queue for the communal washing and toilet facilities.
Then, after a breakfast of "mediocre high-school cafeteria-type food", he is likely to begin a tightly regulated day of "work-calls", "controlled movements" and strictly defined "recreation time" before an early bedtime of 9pm. . ."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7275494.stm
legalmania
12-09-2008, 11:00 PM
:lol: :thumbs up: :lol:
Right!
So far you've provided a link to Wright Patterson in Ohio and an article that does not say Conrad Black HAS been sent and is at Eglin. Very confusing. I'm not the one taking guesses.
You need to read the story it says he will be going to Eglin more than half way down. It says Mr. Black will mostly likely spend his time at Eglin
Air Force Base about 500 miles from his home in West Palm Beach. This is another reason I feel OJ will get transferred becaue it will be close to his children.
You need to read the story it says he will be going to Eglin more than half way down. It says Mr. Black will mostly likely spend his time at Eglin
Air Force Base about 500 miles from his home in West Palm Beach. This is another reason I feel OJ will get transferred becaue it will be close to his children.
I don't see it.
Did I ever tell anyone I'm from the Romanoff line? Sorry off topic where was I Oh yea
The OJ thread and NEVADA LAW.
legalmania
12-09-2008, 11:24 PM
I don't see it.
Well I saw it. It's there.
Black wasn't sent to Elgin. Period.
O.J. Simpson will be serving his sentence in the state of Nevada.
No cushy Florida prison for him. :thumbup:
Cushy? Both places are hot as can be! Do they have air conditioning in prisons?
Black wasn't sent to Eglin. Period.
O.J. Simpson will be serving his sentence in the state of Nevada.
No cushy Florida prison for him. :thumbup:
This thread is bringing to mind that Riccio book: BUSTED!
Thanks for reposting Nevada law!
legalmania
12-09-2008, 11:31 PM
Black wasn't sent to Elgin. Period.
O.J. Simpson will be serving his sentence in the state of Nevada.
No cushy Florida prison for him. :thumbup:
If you read the story Conrad M. Black is going to Eglin. He is still out on bail. Yes OJ will stay in Nevada for awhile but he will get transferred, and they will keep him close to his children. He's is not being held as a violent criminal.
fbgweezer
12-09-2008, 11:39 PM
If you read the story Conrad M. Black is going to Eglin. He is still out on bail. Yes OJ will stay in Nevada for awhile but he will get transferred, and they will keep him close to his children. He's is not being held as a violent criminal.
knock, knock! are you purposely ignoring me? :huh:
Black did not go to Eglin and orenthal will be in Nevada.
If you read the story Conrad M. Black is going to Eglin. He is still out on bail. Yes OJ will stay in Nevada for awhile but he will get transferred, and they will keep him close to his children. He's is not being held as a violent criminal.
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=NameSearch&needingMoreList=false&FirstName=conrad&Middle=m&LastName=black&Race=U&Sex=U&Age=&x=94&y=16
*cough* *cough* Is this not him on this INMATE SEARCH due for release 10-30-2013
Inmate Locator - Locate Federal inmates from 1982 to present
1. CONRAD M BLACK 18330-424 64-White-M 10-30-2013 COLEMAN LOW FCI
Did you not read the above posts?
: Tuesday, 4 March 2008, 10:28 GMT
Lord Black - or inmate 18330-424 as he is listed on the Federal Bureau of Prisons website - will climb out of the bunk bed in his prison dormitory, don his regulation green shirt and trousers and join the queue for the communal washing and toilet facilities.
knock, knock! are you purposely ignoring me? :huh:
Black did not go to Eglin and orenthal will be in Nevada.
I think so! I reposted the information from your article regarding another INMATE.
legalmania
12-09-2008, 11:49 PM
knock, knock! are you purposely ignoring me? :huh:
Black did not go to Eglin and orenthal will be in Nevada.
If you read the last paragraph Mr. Conrad Black is going to Eglin the only thing is it is a little further than 500 miles from his house in West Palm. Like I said OJ will be in Nevada for a short time until his transfer goes through.
Details
12-09-2008, 11:52 PM
No prison is all that nice - but the Nevada regulations are clear - OJ will not be transfered to be near his family, will not be in a long closed Elgin. And he's no nice white collar criminal to easily get a bunk at a minimum security place. He's an armed robbery with kidnapping - a whole different category.
fbgweezer
12-09-2008, 11:54 PM
If you read the last paragraph Mr. Conrad Black is going to Eglin the only thing is it is a little further than 500 miles from his house in West Palm. Like I said OJ will be in Nevada for a short time until his transfer goes through.
I read your article and then looked for current information on Black's incarceration. orenthal won't be going to sunny florida except in his dreams.
If you read the last paragraph Mr. Conrad Black is going to Eglin the only thing is it is a little further than 500 miles from his house in West Palm. Like I said OJ will be in Nevada for a short time until his transfer goes through.
Your article is incorrect and out dated. We've provided you with enough proof of that but still...... you post false information.
Done again.
fbgweezer
12-09-2008, 11:58 PM
Isn't Black in Federal prison?
Simpson is in state prison.
imo
ha -- I was just wondering about that and why the poster would think a state prisoner would be going to a federal prison.
legalmania
12-10-2008, 12:24 AM
ha -- I was just wondering about that and why the poster would think a state prisoner would be going to a federal prison.
Eglin houses both state and federal prisoners.
fbgweezer
12-10-2008, 12:40 AM
Eglin houses both state and federal prisoners.
I don't believe this is true.
legalmania
12-10-2008, 12:46 AM
Your article is incorrect and out dated. We've provided you with enough proof of that but still...... you post false information.
Done again.
It's not wrong your the one who claimed Eglin was closed. I proved that wrong with Mr. Blacks story. Who is in there right now. Why don't you prove yourself right for a change. It's easy to say I'm wrong but you have
never backed up one of your stories with the truth yet. Your the one who gives the false information.The story will be outdated in 2013.
legalmania
12-10-2008, 12:47 AM
I don't believe this is true.
Tough prove me wrong. I know I'm right.
It's not wrong your the one who claimed Eglin was closed. I proved that wrong with Mr. Blacks story. Who is in there right now. Why don't you prove yourself right for a change. It's easy to say I'm wrong but you have
never backed up one of your stories with the truth yet. Your the one who gives the false information.The story will be outdated in 2013.
Your article is outdated and incorrect. I provided links showing you the Elgin is closed. I've requested that you show me proof that it is open you refused and pointed me to find something in an outdated article that only you can see that eglin is open and accepting inmates. I CAN'T FIND IT.
An outdated article is proof of nothing. I showed you were Black was. Yet you say he's out on bail.
The worst part is the thread is now derailed because not only do you say Black is going to Eglin, you claim OJ's on his way there to despite Nevada law.
I've given NO false information. I've backed up everything I posted. It's been duplicated and triplicated by other posters with the same info.
Again, your incorrect.
Why not look for Eglin on the BOP website?
http://www.bop.gov/locations/index.jsp
OK lets LOL
http://www.bop.gov/locations/maps/SER.jsp
Federal Bureau of Prison Facilities Southeast Region
http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=Eglin+Federal+Prison+Camp&fr=ybr_sbc&u=www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/1240922.html&w=eglin+federal+prison+camp+camps&d=D_K6G0fiR46a&icp=1&.intl=us
Hurrican Ivan formed September 2, 2004
Any luck?
Perhaps if we blew it up the map, maybe it's really tiny?
Here's what I get when I put Eglin in the Facility Locator:
http://www.bop.gov/DataSource/execute/dsFacilityLoc
:biggrin:
Sorry. No facilities match your search criteria. :patriot:
"Unfortunately for Mr. Black, Eglin closed last year, a victim of budget cuts and its' own cushy image"
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=159470
No wonder it's been posted that he's still free on bail. Eglin is gone.
Apparently he's so rich he bought someone to pose as him at Coleman.
Good thinking no no one will know his whereabouts except legalmania.
Here's what I got you have to read all the story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-501089/No-law-Conrad-Black-jailed-half-years.html
If your to lazy scroll down and you'll see club fed in big black letters
You changed the original article you posted to another one. Bait and switch?? TOS on the insult take that bucket of bait elsewhere.
legalmania
12-10-2008, 02:45 AM
You changed the original article you posted to another one. Bait and switch?? TOS on the insult take that bucket of bait elsewhere.
It's called proof. It says the same thing as the other article that Conrad Brown is at Eglin and it's not closed and it's just like I said, you don't think it's a prison. I'm still waiting for your proof, but you don't have any as far as I can tell. I have not insulted anyone however you have constantly tried to insult me. It's not working. I fought a case for 10 years in the 17th and 4th district (that's court)and won, because I knew our client was right. :tonguewag:
It's called proof. It says the same thing as the other article that Conrad Brown is at Eglin and it's not closed and it's just like I said, you don't think it's a prison. I'm still waiting for your proof, but you don't have any as far as I can tell. I have not insulted anyone however you have constantly tried to insult me. It's not working. I fought a case for 10 years in the 17th and 4th district (that's court)and won, because I knew our client was right. :tonguewag:
FYI not only is the different article still incorrect you now have the wrong person staying at a facility that doesn't exist in the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
Link to prison location and visiting hours from Eglin. Until then time to move on.
As for the rest ..... credibility issues and not really relevent.
legalmania
12-10-2008, 03:19 AM
FYI not only is the different article still incorrect you now have the wrong person staying at a facility that doesn't exist in the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
Link to prison location and visiting hours from Eglin. Until then time to move on.
As for the rest ..... credibility issues and not really relevent.
http://www.world-check.com/confessions/2008/03/04/confessions-money-launderer-part-57/
What are you gonna say about this one there is about 20 more I'll be happy to keep going
http://www.world-check.com/confessions/2008/03/04/confessions-money-launderer-part-57/
What are you gonna say about this one there is about 20 more I'll be happy to keep going
Is this a joke?
He doesn't seem to be residing in Eglin
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/06/prweb990744.htm
Kenneth Rijock World-Tour Comes to New York
Financial crime consultant, Kenneth Rijock will be presenting "A Former Money Launderer tells how it's done" and "Emerging fraud and money laundering threats in 2008" in New York on the 16th of June.
New York and London (PRWEB) June 2, 2008 -- Acclaimed Financial crime consultant, Kenneth Rijock, will be presenting a World-Check Power Breakfast in New York on the 16th of June.
Author of the widely-read "From a Different Angle," World-Check's early warning feature column, Rijock is a former banking lawyer, and former money launderer. He spent the 1980s as a money launderer and advisor to Colombian drug traffickers, until he was arrested and served a U.S. federal prison sentence for racketeering and money laundering.
That's enough. You can't provide a working link to the Eglin site - game over.
Way off track/topic again.
legalmania
12-10-2008, 03:49 AM
FYI not only is the different article still incorrect you now have the wrong person staying at a facility that doesn't exist in the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
Link to prison location and visiting hours from Eglin. Until then time to move on.
As for the rest ..... credibility issues and not really relevent.
No offense but do you have a comprehension problem with reading? It say's Conrad Black right at the top of the article. It doesn't say Federal Bureau of Prison it says Fort Eglin Federal Prison. It goes on to say he will spend his time at Eglin Air Force Base Federal Prison in Florida.Club Fed with tennis and yoga.:cursing:
No offense but do you have a comprehension problem with reading? It say's Conrad Black right at the top of the article. It doesn't say Federal Bureau of Prison it says Fort Eglin Federal Prison. It goes on to say he will spend his time at Eglin Air Force Base Federal Prison in Florida.Club Fed with tennis and yoga.:cursing:
None taken You posted Conrad Brown.
FYI re: comprehension
Inmate Locator - Locate Federal inmates from 1982 to present
Name Register # Age-Race-Sex Release Date
Location
1. KENNETH WALTON RIJOCK 09060-017 62-White-M
08-12-1992 RELEASED
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=NameSearch&needingMoreList=false&FirstName=Kenneth&Middle=&LastName=Rijock&Race=U&Sex=U&Age=&x=59&y=18
legalmania
12-10-2008, 04:02 AM
He doesn't seem to be residing in Eglin
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2008/06/prweb990744.htm
Kenneth Rijock World-Tour Comes to New York
Financial crime consultant, Kenneth Rijock will be presenting "A Former Money Launderer tells how it's done" and "Emerging fraud and money laundering threats in 2008" in New York on the 16th of June.
New York and London (PRWEB) June 2, 2008 -- Acclaimed Financial crime consultant, Kenneth Rijock, will be presenting a World-Check Power Breakfast in New York on the 16th of June.
Author of the widely-read "From a Different Angle," World-Check's early warning feature column, Rijock is a former banking lawyer, and former money launderer. He spent the 1980s as a money launderer and advisor to Colombian drug traffickers, until he was arrested and served a U.S. federal prison sentence for racketeering and money laundering.
He's telling stories about money launders and other criminals who spent time at Eglin and he wrote their stories. You have some severe issues with being wrong. It's really laughable. There's about 20 different stories if he spent all that time in prison he wouldn't be out. Especially committing things like the RICO act and drug trafficking.
He's telling stories about money launders and other criminals who spent time at Eglin and he wrote their stories. You have some severe issues with being wrong. It's really laughable. There's about 20 different stories if he spent all that time in prison he wouldn't be out. Especially committing things like the RICO act and drug trafficking.
So you are saying these are not stories about himself but other people who are currently housed at Eglin?
"On the World-Check site, Mr. Rijock authors Confessions of a Money Launderer, a serialized account of his escapades while on the other side of the law and it’s a must-read for bank compliance officers (and for Hollywood types looking for their next project)."
Your really too much!
You have really to much time on your hands.
Link to Eglin still seems to be non-existant. That's all you were asked for.
I don't care who WAS there. What is it's current status. No more books please.
Talk about not comprehending.
December 2007
"The typical day, during the work-week generally followed a dreary pattern. Since I was in a minimum security camp, now closed, which served to supply work cadre for the surrounding Eglin Air Force Base, all able-bodied persons were expected to labor for the famed eleven cents per hour the United States Bureau of Prisons doles out. This is, of course, a slight income drop for those white-collar inmates who were taking down millions of dollars per year as fraudsters. Here goes:"
"Eglin AFB actually sits on an estuary of the Gulf of Mexico, though it is called a bayou, due to the fact that it was passed back and forth between the European colonial powers before American independence. The dormitory I lived in looked much like those I lived in during my Army years; double-decked bunk beds, with very small desks and personal spaces between them with dividers, to give the illusion of privacy in a place where there was none. "
http://www.world-check.com/confessions/2007/12/09/confessions-money-launderer-part-47/
Yes quite laughable.
Details
12-10-2008, 04:45 AM
Thanks for the entertainment JBL. I love how solid news reports about "Club Fed" can be denied, and tales of a decade ago in prison are suddenly solid proof of the existence of the prison in modern times. I doubt anyone needed the help, but it's nice to have solid data on someone's willingness to face the hard facts, recognize that they can be wrong. I love how proof was offered in the form of a link to BOP that proves the prison does not exist - proving that the poster didn't check their own link.
So, let's see. OJ is to be transfered from state custody for a state crime, across state lines, to a prison that no longer exists, for reasons that the Nevada Corrections department does not accept as a valid reason for a transfer - does that about sum it up?
Thanks for the entertainment JBL. I love how solid news reports about "Club Fed" can be denied, and tales of a decade ago in prison are suddenly solid proof of the existence of the prison in modern times. I doubt anyone needed the help, but it's nice to have solid data on someone's willingness to face the hard facts, recognize that they can be wrong. I love how proof was offered in the form of a link to BOP that proves the prison does not exist - proving that the poster didn't check their own link.
So, let's see. OJ is to be transfered from state custody for a state crime, across state lines, to a prison that no longer exists, for reasons that the Nevada Corrections department does not accept as a valid reason for a transfer - does that about sum it up?
Devil is definately in the DETAILS (which you surmised eloquently)
All I have to wrap it up with is:
BWA HA HA HA HA HA !
OK I'll read the whooooole thing.
Evelyn Woods here.
Good Grief
I thought waiting for software to load and run and fix and load and run was going to be boring tonight.
That document is a great start, but I think there is an error?!
"Known Aliases: (None) " ?????
Shouldn't oj be listed as this convicts alias?:unsure:
Look towards your left of the doc. It has many alias' listed OJ being one of the them, the Juice another.
If you read the last paragraph Mr. Conrad Black is going to Eglin the only thing is it is a little further than 500 miles from his house in West Palm. Like I said OJ will be in Nevada for a short time until his transfer goes through.
My oh my. States do not transfer inmates at a whim. They do not transfer inmates period. They are to do their time in the state where the crime was committed. It is rare to transfer someone and if they do Florida needs to have someone Nevada wants.
OJ was convicted of his crimes in a State court because they were crimes against the People of Nevada. Why anyone thinks he would be transferred to a Federal Prison is beyond me. He not going into witness protection and he has committed no Federal crimes so in Nevada he will stay until he is either paroled or dies which ever comes first. IMHO
And why think he would be transferred to Eglin Air Force base? What's up with that?
Yup, the only reason for a transfer was provided yesterday. Too much to comprehend I suspect. Oh well, claiming OJ will be transfered will never make it happen. Ever.
My mother lives not far from that Air Force so will ask her about it. Even if they have a prison why in the world would a person that has never served in the armed forces be given that kind of privilege?
Even Ted Bundy who was caught, tried and sentenced in the state of Florida stayed in Florida even though many other states claimed their rights to him because of the crimes he committed in their state.
OJ was convicted of his crimes in a State court because they were crimes against the People of Nevada. Why anyone thinks he would be transferred to a Federal Prison is beyond me. He not going into witness protection and he has committed no Federal crimes so in Nevada he will stay until he is either paroled or dies which ever comes first. IMHO
Hey OS, what's up?
A person is also subject to prosecution IN NV for crimes that "commenced" OUT of NV, but have an impression IN NV.
NRS 194.020 Persons liable to punishment. The following persons, except as provided in NRS 194.010, are liable to punishment:
1. A person who commits in the State any crime, in whole or in part.
2. A person who commits out of the State any act which, if committed within it, would be larceny, and is afterward found in the State with any of the stolen property.
3. A person who, being out of the State, counsels, causes, procures, aids or abets another to commit a crime in this State.
4. A person who, being out of the State, abducts or kidnaps, by force or fraud, any person, contrary to the laws of the place where the act is committed, and brings, sends or conveys such person into this State.
5. A person who commits an act without the State which affects persons or property within the State, or the public health, morals or decency of the State, which, if committed within the State, would be a crime.
Hey there Jay,
Well there you have it and on about the best authority on the board. Thanks for the reply I just know enough to get myself in trouble but one thing I do know is OJ will be staying in Nevada for a very long time.
Thanks, for the record though, I did not mean it as a correction, just as an addendum bro! :smile:
Remember the runaway bride case, GA had subject matter jurisdiction over her because she "transmitted" INTO GA a phone call from out of state claiming she had been abducted, which was false.
Yeah, the Juice got squeezed!!!
legalmania
12-10-2008, 10:54 AM
Under leisure time is what I was talking about. Eglin offers all kinds of facilities. You people crack me up first your so happy that's he's in prison and then when you find it he may be in one of forbes top rated prisons you can't handle it. Eglin is not closed. They did cut back on the prisoners. There are 50 top notch prisons and OJ will probably end up in one. I'm not saying it will be today but it will be in the next couple of years or so. I hoping Eglin so he can be close to Sidney and Justin.
http://www.united-publishers.com/EglinGuide/70th.html
warhorse46
12-10-2008, 11:39 AM
Under leisure time is what I was talking about. Eglin offers all kinds of facilities. You people crack me up first your so happy that's he's in prison and then when you find it he may be in one of forbes top rated prisons you can't handle it. Eglin is not closed. They did cut back on the prisoners. There are 50 top notch prisons and OJ will probably end up in one. I'm not saying it will be today but it will be in the next couple of years or so. I hoping Eglin so he can be close to Sidney and Justin.
http://www.united-publishers.com/EglinGuide/70th.html
You think he may be sent to an Airforce base?
legalmania
12-10-2008, 12:02 PM
You think he may be sent to an Airforce base?
It's a state and federally funded prison and yes it's on an air force base. If not Eglin forbes has 50 of the best prisons, I'm sure he'll go to one.
legalmania
12-10-2008, 12:13 PM
She must live there and hopes to meet OJ? She's going to be soo disappointed because this will never happen.
:lol:
You are wrong as always. I live hundreds of miles from Nevada and wouldn't go to Florida even at gunpoint. I went to a party at Turnberry Isle a very exclusive club and OJ was there and I had no interest in meeting him. Stop pretending to know me because this will never happen.
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 12:38 PM
It's a state and federally funded prison and yes it's on an air force base. If not Eglin forbes has 50 of the best prisons, I'm sure he'll go to one.
Why? Because you believe, as OJ does, that OJ is someone "special"? "Cushy" prisons are for "low security" prisoners, usually convicted of white collar crimes. Even Yale and Gabe say in their interviews OJ will be held in a medium security facility in Nevada.
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 12:52 PM
Under leisure time is what I was talking about. Eglin offers all kinds of facilities. You people crack me up first your so happy that's he's in prison and then when you find it he may be in one of forbes top rated prisons you can't handle it. Eglin is not closed. They did cut back on the prisoners. There are 50 top notch prisons and OJ will probably end up in one. I'm not saying it will be today but it will be in the next couple of years or so. I hoping Eglin so he can be close to Sidney and Justin.
http://www.united-publishers.com/EglinGuide/70th.html
I think what your fellow posters find fault with is the links you offer as "proof" to back your claims. For instance, the link above is about Eglin's 70th Anniversary. The article clearly says Eglin began in 1931. Seventy years later would place that article as being written in 2001, when the prison was still open. Perhaps you'll find this article about Conrad Black from December 2007 interesting.
"His (Conrad Black's) lawyers requested that he serve his 6.5 year sentence at the Eglin Federal Prison Camp — a “Club Fed” type situation near Pensacola, Fla. Judge Amy St. Eve approved the request.
There was one problem: the Federal Bureau of Prisons closed Eglin last year. Who knew?"
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/12/12/the-curious-case-of-conrads-correctional-facility/
Perhaps your lack of discernment about the Eglin prison explains why paralegals work under the supervision of attorneys and are not supposed to offer legal advice to the public.
Under leisure time is what I was talking about. Eglin offers all kinds of facilities. You people crack me up first your so happy that's he's in prison and then when you find it he may be in one of forbes top rated prisons you can't handle it. Eglin is not closed. They did cut back on the prisoners. There are 50 top notch prisons and OJ will probably end up in one. I'm not saying it will be today but it will be in the next couple of years or so. I hoping Eglin so he can be close to Sidney and Justin.
http://www.united-publishers.com/EglinGuide/70th.html
Those are not inmate facilities they are featuring on the website. Those are veteran facilities.
What we found out was Nevada Law. Not Legalmania law. Yes 50 top notch prisons are out there. I provided a link for you.
The "I hope" phrase is the first post with some legitimate meaning to it.
It's the posting of false and misleading information that has everyone up in arms. Because you say it it is so with nonsense links.
Leisure time:
"Whether it’s a day off, hanging out with friends in town, or you’re simply looking for adventure, Eglin offers a wide variety of activities for your leisure time. Few bases can match the size and quality of Eglin’s facilities and activities."
How about the link where they can register their kids for school, shopping.
open to all military ranks, retirees, family members, guests, civilian personnel (including all federal employees regardless of duty station), and federal facility contractors.
They omitted PRISONERS. What's up with that? ROFLMAO
Talk about cracking people up.
penguin01
12-10-2008, 12:59 PM
I think what your fellow posters find fault with is the links you offer as "proof" to back your claims. For instance, the link above is about Eglin's 70th Anniversary. The article clearly says Eglin began in 1931. Seventy years later would place that article as being written in 2001, when the prison was still open. Perhaps you'll find this article about Conrad Black from December 2007 interesting.
"His (Conrad Black's) lawyers requested that he serve his 6.5 year sentence at the Eglin Federal Prison Camp — a “Club Fed” type situation near Pensacola, Fla. Judge Amy St. Eve approved the request.
There was one problem: the Federal Bureau of Prisons closed Eglin last year. Who knew?"
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/12/12/the-curious-case-of-conrads-correctional-facility/
Perhaps your lack of discernment about the Eglin prison explains why paralegals work under the supervision of attorneys and are not supposed to offer legal advice to the public. Wow - great Link! THat is SO funny. Well maybe Legamania is saying they'll reopen Elgin for OJ. He is so affable, they'll bend over backwards to accomodate him, I'm sure! :thumbsup:
I think what your fellow posters find fault with is the links you offer as "proof" to back your claims. For instance, the link above is about Eglin's 70th Anniversary. The article clearly says Eglin began in 1931. Seventy years later would place that article as being written in 2001, when the prison was still open. Perhaps you'll find this article about Conrad Black from December 2007 interesting.
"His (Conrad Black's) lawyers requested that he serve his 6.5 year sentence at the Eglin Federal Prison Camp — a “Club Fed” type situation near Pensacola, Fla. Judge Amy St. Eve approved the request.
There was one problem: the Federal Bureau of Prisons closed Eglin last year. Who knew?"
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/12/12/the-curious-case-of-conrads-correctional-facility/
Perhaps your lack of discernment about the Eglin prison explains why paralegals work under the supervision of attorneys and are not supposed to offer legal advice to the public.
:thumbsup: YAY O_H_ I_O ! Doing wave (picture group wave solo wave doesn't look like much) LOL!
Wow - great Link! THat is SO funny. Well maybe Legamania is saying they'll reopen Elgin for OJ. He is so affable, they'll bend over backwards to accomodate him, I'm sure! :thumbsup:
OMG! I didn't have my coke spew screen up in front of moniter!
I'll get you for that ROFLMAO! REOPEN FOR THE JUICE! Good Grief!
:w00t:
You are wrong as always. I live hundreds of miles from Nevada and wouldn't go to Florida even at gunpoint. I went to a party at Turnberry Isle a very exclusive club and OJ was there and I had no interest in meeting him. Stop pretending to know me because this will never happen.
No one's pretending to know you. We just have your number.
I say so it is number. And a 1 and a 2 (breaking out musical instruments)
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 01:10 PM
Has Forbes (or anybody else) put forth an updated "50 best places to go to prison" since 2006? I'd hope if anyone is expecting to utilize the site(s) that they also keep your crimes within acceptable parameters. Kind of like making sure your SAT/ACT scores are in line to get into the college of your choice.
http://www.forbes.com/blankslate/2006/04/17/best-prisons-federal_cx_lr_06slate_0418bestprisons.html
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 01:13 PM
OMG! I didn't have my coke spew screen up in front of moniter!
I'll get you for that ROFLMAO! REOPEN FOR THE JUICE! Good Grief!
:w00t:
Seriously, if money and family connections can't get you into the prison of your choice, what's the point?
penguin01
12-10-2008, 01:15 PM
OMG! I didn't have my coke spew screen up in front of moniter!
I'll get you for that ROFLMAO! REOPEN FOR THE JUICE! Good Grief!
:w00t: Come on - its not any more strange than some of her other ideas! As we speak they are working on finding the best golf course that is closest to his children to can the Juice in comfort. That is how its works in the prison system for important, influential prisoners like OJ, dontcha know? :rolleyes:
Has Forbes (or anybody else) put forth an updated "50 best places to go to prison" since 2006? I'd hope if anyone is expecting to utilize the site(s) that they also keep your crimes within acceptable parameters. Kind of like making sure your SAT/ACT scores are in line to get into the college of your choice.
http://www.forbes.com/blankslate/2006/04/17/best-prisons-federal_cx_lr_06slate_0418bestprisons.html
I didn't bother looking for digs I wanted to see OJ in. That's something that is controlled by the State of Nevada judicial system not us nor OJ.
I was just looking up ANYTHING about Eglin. Always comes up the same way:
"Eglin was once considered so cushy that the term "Club Fed" was actually coined to describe it. It was recently closed.) "
Seriously, if money and family connections can't get you into the prison of your choice, what's the point?
ROFLMAO!
I never thought of it that way! :punch:
Come on - its not any more strange than some of her other ideas! As we speak they are working on finding the best golf course that is closest to his children to can the Juice in comfort. That is how its works in the prison system for important, influential prisoners like OJ, dontcha know? :rolleyes:
I have a bad feeling he may have stashed his clubs in the "hide things from the Goldman's pile". He forgot those were his. At what $260.00 a month or something like that that he's allowed to keep in commissary fund it should take him a year or so to save and by some new ones.
I'm not a golfer but I don't think they like to share on the links.
penguin01
12-10-2008, 01:53 PM
I have a bad feeling he may have stashed his clubs in the "hide things from the Goldman's pile". He forgot those were his. At what $260.00 a month or something like that that he's allowed to keep in commissary fund it should take him a year or so to save and by some new ones.
I'm not a golfer but I don't think they like to share on the links.
See - look at all the money he will save. No more huge entertainment budget and he can cancel his golf club memberships (or hopefully get booted out by the club(s?). His only expense is the commissary and little bribe money for fellow thugs and guards - he'll be even richer when he gets out! Oops - almost forgot - gotta keep on paying Yale to work on that appeal.
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 02:05 PM
See - look at all the money he will save. No more huge entertainment budget and he can cancel his golf club memberships (or hopefully get booted out by the club(s?). His only expense is the commissary and little bribe money for fellow thugs and guards - he'll be even richer when he gets out! Oops - almost forgot - gotta keep on paying Yale to work on that appeal.
But still two kids in college. Maybe after the appeal issue is settled and they know dad will be safely behind bars for at least 9 years they'll finally find time to ask OJ about what happened to their mom that night. I still find it amazing that in all these years the topic allegedly has never come up in their happy home.
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 02:09 PM
I think he's supporting her and will continue to do so.
Of course there's alot more $$ in snitching on him.
imo
Did you find it odd that OJ brought up the porn film incident Gilbert was allegedly behind in his comments to the judge? I laughed when OJ said he was no longer mad at Gilbert and had forgiven him about the incident after OJ had the opportunity to yell at him about it. Sure OJ, no more hard feelings towards Gilbert!
Did you find it odd that OJ brought up the porn film incident Gilbert was allegedly behind in his comments to the judge? I laughed when OJ said he was no longer mad at Gilbert and had forgiven him about the incident after OJ had the opportunity to yell at him about it. Sure OJ, no more hard feelings towards Gilbert!
LMAO what the heck was that about. Ramblings of a mad man!
I've watched that rambling a few times now and it's unbelievable.
I've posted this before and still feel the same way. I bet he told his kids he did this for them but they shouldn't feel guilty about him being locked up even though it was for them.
No remorse, someone else's fault.
I think he's supporting her and will continue to do so.
Of course there's alot more $$ in snitching on him.
imo
I expect to see OJ the inside story. Girl has to make a living some how.
I'd say her days were numbered in the house still occupyied by her and Arnelle.
Arnelle is in no way going to put up with her.
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 03:01 PM
LMAO what the heck was that about. Ramblings of a mad man!
I've watched that rambling a few times now and it's unbelievable.
I've posted this before and still feel the same way. I bet he told his kids he did this for them but they shouldn't feel guilty about him being locked up even though it was for them.
No remorse, someone else's fault.
I can hear him now. "Sydney honey I know you never heard daddy mention your mama's ring on any of those tapes, but that's what this was really all about: getting that ring back for you. I tried to tell the judge, but she didn't believe me so daddy's going to be going away again. At least you're a big girl now so daddy doesn't have to leave you in those awful Browns' care this time!"
Now that's funny. :lol:
"He is so affable, they'll bend over backwards to accomodate him, I'm sure! "
OMG How did I miss that line!:w00t:
This from the Las Vegas Review Journal, Reviewjournal.com:
O.J. Simpson has been making friends in jail by picking up the tab for their snacks. Simpson's Las Vegas-based attorney Gabriel Grasso told Associated Press special correspondent Linda Deutsch that "O.J. was actually buying stuff for all these other guys who don't have anybody on the outside. Candy bars, soup, chocolate, whatever you can buy at the commissary. I think when he does meet people in jail, they're going to treat him well because he treats them well." Simpson, 61, was sentenced Friday to nine to 33 years on 10 charges stemming from a September 2007 incident with two sports memorabilia dealers involving items that the NFL Hall of Famer claimed were stolen from him.
Sorry legal:
Talked with my mother and sister who both live by the Air Force base, have friends that work there etc. There is not a prison there. There is a commissary though, which my son [disabled ex-Marine] has visited there and bought stuff. Even saw a doctor there when he was visiting in FL and got sick.
legalmania
12-10-2008, 04:40 PM
This from the Las Vegas Review Journal, Reviewjournal.com:
O.J. Simpson has been making friends in jail by picking up the tab for their snacks. Simpson's Las Vegas-based attorney Gabriel Grasso told Associated Press special correspondent Linda Deutsch that "O.J. was actually buying stuff for all these other guys who don't have anybody on the outside. Candy bars, soup, chocolate, whatever you can buy at the commissary. I think when he does meet people in jail, they're going to treat him well because he treats them well." Simpson, 61, was sentenced Friday to nine to 33 years on 10 charges stemming from a September 2007 incident with two sports memorabilia dealers involving items that the NFL Hall of Famer claimed were stolen from him.
Oh please O.J. doesn't have to buy anybody anything he's a celebrity. When Tupac was in prison he said even the white supremacists asked for his autograph. OJ will have so many guys watching his back he won't get a moment alone. It's against the rules to buy somebody stuff from the commissary. If you do it, it has to be in secret. I know this because when I went to see my clients there was a whole wall full of rules.
legalmania
12-10-2008, 04:54 PM
Sorry legal:
Talked with my mother and sister who both live by the Air Force base, have friends that work there etc. There is not a prison there. There is a commissary though, which my son [disabled ex-Marine] has visited there and bought stuff. Even saw a doctor there when he was visiting in FL and got sick.
The reason they didn't see the old Air Force Prison is because they are building a new one here is the link: Oh course your going have the people from bazarrow world who will change it around but that's what is going on. I remembered I have a friend who works there and he gave me the scoop. Just have a quick question if there is no prison where do they keep the solders who commit crimes I hope not in the commissary.
http://www.afge.org/Index.cfm?Page=UnionBlog&FuseAction=View&BlogID=139&Type=U
Oh please O.J. doesn't have to buy anybody anything he's a celebrity. When Tupac was in prison he said even the white supremacists asked for his autograph. OJ will have so many guys watching his back he won't get a moment alone. It's against the rules to buy somebody stuff from the commissary. If you do it, it has to be in secret. I know this because when I went to see my clients there was a whole wall full of rules.
That is a direct quote from OJ's lawyer Gabriel Grasso. It's in numerous articles and on video.
OJ is not Tupac and Tupac has no bearing on this case. Isn't Tupac dead, killed? Someone wasn't watching his back it would seem.
I digress please post some facts that have SOMETHING to do with Nevada law and OJ.
legalmania
12-10-2008, 05:05 PM
OJ is going to spend his first Christmas behind bars. Isn't that exciting? I think we should send him a congrats card.
:lol:
No he spent the Holidays behind bars in 1995. I don't think anyone who commits a non-violent crime and is behind bars is exciting or funny. You have no feelings for Justin or Sidney who did nothing. Their two beautiful kids who lost their mother and father. Luckily they are surrounded by people who love them. I hope that's enough.
The reason they didn't see the old Air Force Prison is because they are building a new one here is the link: Oh course your going have the people from bazarrow world who will change it around but that's what is going on. I remembered I have a friend who works there and he gave me the scoop. Just have a quick question if there is no prison where do they keep the solders who commit crimes I hope not in the commissary.
http://www.afge.org/Index.cfm?Page=UnionBlog&FuseAction=View&BlogID=139&Type=U
UNBELIEVABLE where did you get this nonsense.
Bureau of Prison to closed FPC Eglin.
February 28, 2005
BLACKS THERE SOMEONE BETTER GET HIM
ROFLMAO!!!!
Please open a new thread regarding crimes by the armed forces.
BTW and FYI it's still not listed on the BOP site so I'll go out on a limb and still venture to say no current site link no NEW prison at Eglin
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 05:11 PM
The reason they didn't see the old Air Force Prison is because they are building a new one here is the link: Oh course your going have the people from bazarrow world who will change it around but that's what is going on. I remembered I have a friend who works there and he gave me the scoop. Just have a quick question if there is no prison where do they keep the solders who commit crimes I hope not in the commissary.
http://www.afge.org/Index.cfm?Page=UnionBlog&FuseAction=View&BlogID=139&Type=U
Can you really have such a problem with reading comprehension? The link is a union blog from 2005 about the Eglin prison being closed and trying to get people to sign a petition on their thesis that having a prison on an AFB is somehow cheaper than building new ones. Reading is Fundamental.
Can you really have such a problem with reading comprehension? The link is a union blog from 2005 about the Eglin prison being closed and trying to get people to sign a petition on their thesis that having a prison on an AFB is somehow cheaper than building new ones. Reading is Fundamental.
Thats even funnier! I didn't read past the EGLIN prison being closed title.
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 05:16 PM
No he spent the Holidays behind bars in 1995. I don't think anyone who commits a non-violent crime and is behind bars is exciting or funny. You have no feelings for Justin or Sidney who did nothing. Their two beautiful kids who lost their mother and father. Luckily they are surrounded by people who love them. I hope that's enough.
Why do you try to place Justin and Sidney's family problems on messge board posters? There is only one person to blame for those children being robbed of two parents; his name is OJ Simpson.
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 05:22 PM
Thats even funnier! I didn't read past the EGLIN prison being closed title.
Please do read it all. I'd hate to be wrong, but that's what I take the purpose of the site to have been. It always amazes me that people don't look at and question the motivations behind anything uploaded onto the internet. AFGE.org is the American Federation of Government Employees. In large letters is says "PLEASE HELP US STOP THE CLOSURE OF FEDERAL PRISON CAMP" and asks readers to sign their petition.
Please do read it all. I'd hate to be wrong, but that's what I take the purpose of the site to have been. It always amazes me that people don't look at and question the motivations behind anything uploaded onto the internet. AFGE.org is the American Federation of Government Employees. In large letters is says "PLEASE HELP US STOP THE CLOSURE OF FEDERAL PRISON CAMP" and asks readers to sign their petition.
Sorry I was still reading the 85 chapters legalmania posted about the interviews of money launderers who are currently at Eglin.
NOT!
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 05:32 PM
No he spent the Holidays behind bars in 1995. I don't think anyone who commits a non-violent crime and is behind bars is exciting or funny. You have no feelings for Justin or Sidney who did nothing. Their two beautiful kids who lost their mother and father. Luckily they are surrounded by people who love them. I hope that's enough.
When was OJ behind bars for a "non-violent" crime? People being slashed to death by a knife seems pretty violent to me, as does being robbed by a group of men at gunpoint who have been isntructed to "look menacing".
Please do read it all. I'd hate to be wrong, but that's what I take the purpose of the site to have been. It always amazes me that people don't look at and question the motivations behind anything uploaded onto the internet. AFGE.org is the American Federation of Government Employees. In large letters is says "PLEASE HELP US STOP THE CLOSURE OF FEDERAL PRISON CAMP" and asks readers to sign their petition.
Bwa ha ha ha ha Read it.
You are not wrong.
It is a petition from the Union Steward.
"The truth is that FPC Eglin is on a Air force Base, and that operating cost of the institution with Air Force support is lower than most satellite camps which are being constructed alongside new mult-institutions. "
This doesn't even say a new bldg is being constructed at Eglin.
Foiled again!
When was OJ behind bars for a "non-violent" crime? People being slashed to death by a knife seems pretty violent to me, as does being robbed by a group of men at gunpoint who have been isntructed to "look menacing".
Jackie Glass stated her sentencing had to do with the Violent Nature of the armed robbery in the little tiny hotel room which compounded the violence being so small with so many men screaming and a brandished gun.
(paraphrased)
penguin01
12-10-2008, 05:45 PM
Oh please O.J. doesn't have to buy anybody anything he's a celebrity. When Tupac was in prison he said even the white supremacists asked for his autograph. OJ will have so many guys watching his back he won't get a moment alone. It's against the rules to buy somebody stuff from the commissary. If you do it, it has to be in secret. I know this because when I went to see my clients there was a whole wall full of rules. and we know the prisoners would never break the rules - they never bribe each other or the guards, never bring drug, alchohol or women into the prison, right?
kellabeck
12-10-2008, 07:03 PM
I think he's supporting her and will continue to do so.
Of course there's alot more $$ in snitching on him.
IF she has a brain, and that's doubtful considering how she has spent the last many years, she would ditch him pronto and take the bucks to tell all while there is still market for Simpson dirt.
She could then take that money to rebuild a life apart from the acquitted killer/convicted kidnapper/robber and stay away from him 9 or more years from now IF and when he ever gets out.
kellabeck
12-10-2008, 07:06 PM
Why do you try to place Justin and Sidney's family problems on messge board posters? There is only one person to blame for those children being robbed of two parents; his name is OJ Simpson.
Bravo! And do not forget that but for the dog, the bodies might well have lain there all night to be discovered by the children in the morning. Do not ever forget that their father nearly decapitated their mother and left her there for them to find.
The reason they didn't see the old Air Force Prison is because they are building a new one here is the link: Oh course your going have the people from bazarrow world who will change it around but that's what is going on. I remembered I have a friend who works there and he gave me the scoop. Just have a quick question if there is no prison where do they keep the solders who commit crimes I hope not in the commissary.
http://www.afge.org/Index.cfm?Page=UnionBlog&FuseAction=View&BlogID=139&Type=U
The link says the prison was closed.
Where do they keep the solider's who commit crimes? I'm sure there are other places they could go too. I have no clue. However IMO OJ Simpson is not nor has ever been a solider so why do you think he will go there?
1. Prison was closed in 2005.
2. OJ has never been in the armed forces.
3. It is rare for states to transfer inmates.
Never mind, I'm through arguing this point.
IMO OJ's was found guilty and has been sentenced. If he is transferred to another state oh well, who cares? I don't.
And BTW: Inmates always and do give to others; trades etc. They have their ways and there is a system within the system.
Lyndawitha"Y
12-10-2008, 08:09 PM
Oh please O.J. doesn't have to buy anybody anything he's a celebrity. When Tupac was in prison he said even the white supremacists asked for his autograph. OJ will have so many guys watching his back he won't get a moment alone. It's against the rules to buy somebody stuff from the commissary. If you do it, it has to be in secret. I know this because when I went to see my clients there was a whole wall full of rules.
I am sorry, but I have read so much drivel about your estimations of OJ's appeal to other inmates and his likelihood of "Couchy Surroundings"..and his rightfulness to be freed from ANY PRISON>...Yikes..get a grip please...
OJ..is one arrogant and ignorant individual who has gotten away with so much throughout his lif,e cause why?..he could throw a football!?!?
However, the rest of his life has been spent exploiting Racial Divide..his "Accolades" from decades ago,his ability to manipulate those around him ( true salesman), finally, his narcassistic mode of mindset!..
Yet just what has he accomplished since he received his Heinsman Trophy?....nothing but "Notorious" acclaim.. He has bobbed and weaved the law..has (IMO) murdered 2 people..has scammed the IRS..has hidden any and all assets claimable by judgements..has lied his face off to all..including his children (Justin and Sydney)...IS he really a guy you want to admire??? I sure dont..!!
However..that is your choice..but it does say something about ones positin on "Whats right and whats wrong"?..Morals is something one has to live by..(Right/Wrong)..and final judgement is when ya will realize the errors you made as a humble HUMAN!
Best of luck to ya..I'll pass your boat of deliverance, thankyou!
LMS
fbgweezer
12-10-2008, 08:25 PM
snip*snip*". . .OJ will have so many guys watching his back he won't get a moment alone. . ."
wonder why this made me think of that picture of orenthal in the blonde wig?!! :scared::huh:
Lyndawitha"Y
12-10-2008, 08:45 PM
OJ's prison sentence is just and true..and how he survives it really makes no nevermind to me..As since OJ is like a cat with "Nine Lives".he will land on his feet..and makes the best of his situation..I dont care either...Whatever he does, thinks, feels for the next 9 years really is inconsequental to my way of thinking..He is far beyond learning the error of his ways, and beyond getting rehabilatated..So..let him be...the "Fallout" of this conviction will be that slippey slope of exposure to all those who assisted him in his 12 year history of hiding funds..so I am sure many heads will roll, either by association or hands-on assisting OJ....My Goodness..what a tangled web he weaved!!
LMS
legalmania
12-10-2008, 09:57 PM
The link says the prison was closed.
Where do they keep the soldier's who commit crimes? I'm sure there are other places they could go too. I have no clue. However IMO OJ Simpson is not nor has ever been a solider so why do you think he will go there?
1. Prison was closed in 2005.
2. OJ has never been in the armed forces.
3. It is rare for states to transfer inmates.
Never mind, I'm through arguing this point.
IMO OJ's was found guilty and has been sentenced. If he is transferred to another state oh well, who cares? I don't.
And BTW: Inmates always and do give to others; trades etc. They have their ways and there is a system within the system.
Actually it said they fighting trying to closed it, and in 1996 they finally got they started building the new building. I know the transition was smooth because I didn't read any articles about problems because of the closing. They have rebuilt most of it already and they are trying to keep it green,I think that's smart, it and most of the prisoners are already housed there.You don't have to be in the armed forces to go there. I don't understand what you mean by [B/]rare[B/? for the states to transfer inmates. When I worked for the prosecutors office, I know trading things to each were vital but if they get caught they get in trouble. They get some kind of if hey misbehave. Please they get stuck with the trash chores. I don't think this as an argument at all it's just a discussion. Oh well it's over now and the prisoners can go back to their boring lives.
Lyndawitha"Y
12-10-2008, 10:23 PM
Actually it said they fighting trying to closed it, and in 1996 they finally got they started building the new building. I know the transition was smooth because I didn't read any articles about problems because of the closing. They have rebuilt most of it already and they are trying to keep it green,I think that's smart, it and most of the prisoners are already housed there.You don't have to be in the armed forces to go there. I don't understand what you mean by [B/]rare[B/? for the states to transfer inmates. When I worked for the prosecutors office, I know trading things to each were vital but if they get caught they get in trouble. They get some kind of if hey misbehave. Please they get stuck with the trash chores. I don't think this as an argument at all it's just a discussion. Oh well it's over now and the prisoners can go back to their boring lives.
I guess all I can say is..that your obsession with Federal versus State has been gagging myself with a spoon...I dont care what a Federal Prison does or wants to do..or thinks they can do..It has very little to do with OJ..He is a "Hasbeen"..and a simple felon..so other than his notorious history..dont think the Federal peeps care one idoota..I dont..and sure many feel that way..
Lets just wait to see what the disposition of OJ is..then debate the value of their dicision..Geesh!
Legalmania..I have lost all faith in your posts...I dont want to iggy ya..but will just "Scroll on by"..as it seems you are somewhat disjointed not to mention rather biased...hummm..Sorry bud..but you have lost me!!:sad:
LMS
Actually it said they fighting trying to closed it, and in 1996 they finally got they started building the new building. I know the transition was smooth because I didn't read any articles about problems because of the closing. They have rebuilt most of it already and they are trying to keep it green,I think that's smart, it and most of the prisoners are already housed there.You don't have to be in the armed forces to go there. I don't understand what you mean by [B/]rare[B/? for the states to transfer inmates. When I worked for the prosecutors office, I know trading things to each were vital but if they get caught they get in trouble. They get some kind of if hey misbehave. Please they get stuck with the trash chores. I don't think this as an argument at all it's just a discussion. Oh well it's over now and the prisoners can go back to their boring lives.
:confused:
I feel like I've entered Waverly Hills.
<snipped>
Legalmania..I have lost all faith in your posts...I dont want to iggy ya..but will just "Scroll on by"..as it seems you are somewhat disjointed not to mention rather biased...hummm..Sorry bud..but you have lost me!!:sad:
LMSI love Legalmania's posts. Something's got to entertain me when there are no live trials to follow. :)
:confused:
I feel like I've entered Waverly Hills.
Ok meant Danvers not Waverly Hills. Darn kids watching Ghosthunters vids and had Waverly Hillls on my mind.
:w00t:
legalmania
12-10-2008, 11:10 PM
FYI for the one never in the know of anything.
Tupac went to Rikers. There are no 'WHITE SUPREMISTISTS" at Rikers. Rikers is pretty violent and he was protected. Duh!!
:rolleyes:
He went to Clinton Correction Facility in 1995. This is a maximum security prison in NY of course they have white supremacist . It was all on his Academy Award Winning documentary Resurrection . You should watch sometime you might learn something.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur#Prison_sentence
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 11:34 PM
Actually it said they fighting trying to closed it, and in 1996 they finally got they started building the new building. I know the transition was smooth because I didn't read any articles about problems because of the closing. They have rebuilt most of it already and they are trying to keep it green,I think that's smart, it and most of the prisoners are already housed there.You don't have to be in the armed forces to go there. I don't understand what you mean by [B/]rare[B/? for the states to transfer inmates. When I worked for the prosecutors office, I know trading things to each were vital but if they get caught they get in trouble. They get some kind of if hey misbehave. Please they get stuck with the trash chores. I don't think this as an argument at all it's just a discussion. Oh well it's over now and the prisoners can go back to their boring lives.
Legalmania, let me type this s-l-o-w-l-y for you. The article you cited about closing the prison @ Eglin was from 2005. Now you're talking about new building in 1996. Now think carefully and follow along...Which year comes first? That would be 1996! And the closing was AFTER 1996, in 2005. So why are you talking about anything in 1996 having anything to do with the closing of the prison? FYI, most posters are not seeing this as a discussionng, and I think I speak for most of us that we're getting tired of "arguing" with someone who keeps putting up links that do not defend any position. It's a non-issue regarding OJ Simpson to everyone, it seems, but you.
Lyndawitha"Y
12-10-2008, 11:38 PM
I love Legalmania's posts. Something's got to entertain me when there are no live trials to follow. :)
I have no problems with fictional postings.but fear thread closure for off topic ratonale..especially after shown to be not reliable or not applicable..Entertainment yepper..but not really acceptable after awhile..hummm..?? Lets face it, what OJ is facing is justice according to his crime..nothing more and nothing less..LOL..He will survive no thanks to his ability to beguile peeps..felons..prisoners or innocents....My only worry is that his personality will pull yet others into his web !! PLS... caretakers..DO NOT PASS THAT LINE!!! BEWARE!! DANGERS!!..LOL..Its like Buyer Beware??!!
LMS
legalmania
12-10-2008, 11:38 PM
I guess all I can say is..that your obsession with Federal versus State has been gagging myself with a spoon...I dont care what a Federal Prison does or wants to do..or thinks they can do..It has very little to do with OJ..He is a "Hasbeen"..and a simple felon..so other than his notorious history..dont think the Federal peeps care one idoota..I dont..and sure many feel that way..
Lets just wait to see what the disposition of OJ is..then debate the value of their dicision..Geesh!
Legalmania..I have lost all faith in your posts...I dont want to iggy ya..but will just "Scroll on by"..as it seems you are somewhat disjointed not to mention rather biased...hummm..Sorry bud..but you have lost me!!:sad:
LMS
Oh no how will I sleep. I got my own world to live through and I ain't gonna copy you. Kids don't try gagging yourself with a spoon, at home. It's not a smart thing to do. If it doesn't bother you than why do you continue to answer my post. Just ignore me, it's just that easy. I don't post for anybody but myself, or if someone asked me a question. It's lonely at the top but that's the price you pay sometimes. I just wish people would stop putting words in my post that are inaccurate. Please quote me verbatim. Sorry I lost you but I was never really looking for you.:cursing:
warhorse46
12-10-2008, 11:40 PM
Oh please O.J. doesn't have to buy anybody anything he's a celebrity. When Tupac was in prison he said even the white supremacists asked for his autograph. OJ will have so many guys watching his back he won't get a moment alone. It's against the rules to buy somebody stuff from the commissary. If you do it, it has to be in secret. I know this because when I went to see my clients there was a whole wall full of rules.
OJ will be spending 23 hours a day alone, he will be in adm seg for his own safety.
legalmania
12-10-2008, 11:43 PM
I love Legalmania's posts. Something's got to entertain me when there are no live trials to follow. :)
Right, some people think they're up for the pulizer prize or something.
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 11:44 PM
Oh please O.J. doesn't have to buy anybody anything he's a celebrity. When Tupac was in prison he said even the white supremacists asked for his autograph. OJ will have so many guys watching his back he won't get a moment alone. It's against the rules to buy somebody stuff from the commissary. If you do it, it has to be in secret. I know this because when I went to see my clients there was a whole wall full of rules.
To all you OJ defenders, a case in point. OJ's own attorney has publicly stated that OJ is buying items from the commissary for fellow prisoners. Here's one of his defenders stating that it should be obvious to OJ that doing so is against the rules. If that is so, do you not recognize an ongoing pattern with OJ's penchant for blantantly breaking rules? How can you say he wouldn't do that when his own attorney has just told the world that not only that he would do it, he DID do it?
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 11:48 PM
Right, some people think they're up for the pulizer prize or something.
Fortunately most posters can tell which writers are putting forth works of fiction.
warhorse46
12-10-2008, 11:50 PM
The reason they didn't see the old Air Force Prison is because they are building a new one here is the link: Oh course your going have the people from bazarrow world who will change it around but that's what is going on. I remembered I have a friend who works there and he gave me the scoop. Just have a quick question if there is no prison where do they keep the solders who commit crimes I hope not in the commissary.
http://www.afge.org/Index.cfm?Page=UnionBlog&FuseAction=View&BlogID=139&Type=U
:lol: Since you claim to have such a great knowledge of the judicial system I would think you would know the difference between a Federal Prison & a State prison. Inmates in a Federal prison have committed federal crimes & were tried in federal courts. Inmates in state prisons have commited state crimes & were tried in state court. They DO NOT send inmates convicted of state crimes to federal prisons nor vice versa. OJ was tried & convicted in state court, not federal court. He has no chance of being housed in a federal prison. Obviously you are not nearly as knowledgeable re the judicial system as you have said you are.
AnnInOhio
12-10-2008, 11:55 PM
:lol: Since you claim to have such a great knowledge of the judicial system I would think you would know the difference between a Federal Prison & a State prison. Inmates in a Federal prison have committed federal crimes & were tried in federal courts. Inmates in state prisons have commited state crimes & were tried in state court. They DO NOT send inmates convicted of state crimes to federal prisons nor vice versa. OJ was tried & convicted in state court, not federal court. He has no chance of being housed in a federal prison. Obviously you are not nearly as knowledgeable re the judicial system as you have said you are.
Do you ever watch Southpark? Do you ever read some posts and hear Eric Cartman in your mind saying "You must respect my au-thor-i-tie"??
warhorse46
12-10-2008, 11:57 PM
The reason they didn't see the old Air Force Prison is because they are building a new one here is the link: Oh course your going have the people from bazarrow world who will change it around but that's what is going on. I remembered I have a friend who works there and he gave me the scoop. Just have a quick question if there is no prison where do they keep the solders who commit crimes I hope not in the commissary.
http://www.afge.org/Index.cfm?Page=UnionBlog&FuseAction=View&BlogID=139&Type=U
The military houses their inmates @ Fort Levenworth prison. Read here.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/leavenworth.htm
Do you ever watch Southpark? Do you ever read some posts and hear Eric Cartman in your mind saying "You must respect my au-thor-i-tie"??
... :beer:
legalmania
12-11-2008, 12:23 AM
Legalmania, let me type this s-l-o-w-l-y for you. The article you cited about closing the prison @ Eglin was from 2005. Now you're talking about new building in 1996. Now think carefully and follow along...Which year comes first? That would be 1996! And the closing was AFTER 1996, in 2005. So why are you talking about anything in 1996 having anything to do with the closing of the prison? FYI, most posters are not seeing this as a discussionng, and I think I speak for most of us that we're getting tired of "arguing" with someone who keeps putting up links that do not defend any position. It's a non-issue regarding OJ Simpson to everyone, it seems, but you.
I'm not going to answer somebody who can't speak like an adult. It's above your head.
legalmania
12-11-2008, 12:25 AM
The military houses their inmates @ Fort Levenworth prison. Read here.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/justicelawlegislation/a/leavenworth.htm
That still doesn't explain why Conrad Brown is doing 6/1/2 years at Eglin Air Force Prison since 2007.
AnnInOhio
12-11-2008, 12:30 AM
I'm not going to answer somebody who can't speak like an adult. It's above your head.
Honestly, you're cracking me up! :laugh::laugh:
AnnInOhio
12-11-2008, 12:32 AM
That still doesn't explain why Conrad Brown is doing 6/1/2 years at Eglin Air Force Prison since 2007.
You're right. NOTHING any of us can find can explain that.
legalmania
12-11-2008, 12:32 AM
As much as I would like to sit here and get silly with you people I have to finish helping a client get her Social Security benefits. I don't know about you but I need money. :loveeyes: Carry On.
AnnInOhio
12-11-2008, 12:42 AM
That still doesn't explain why Conrad Brown is doing 6/1/2 years at Eglin Air Force Prison since 2007.
Here. Do some reading from the Wall Street Journal, a fairly reliable source. Last article was November 24, 2008 - more recent than anything I've seen you offer on the subject. "Mr. Black is doing time at the Coleman Federal Correction Complex, a low security facility about 50 miles northwest of Orlando."
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/category/conrad-black/
A paralegal's job IS basically to make an attorney look good. Doing research, legwork, preparing documents, etc. I know several and it's interesting work. But, in my experience, they typically work for an attorney, not their own clients.
http://www.afge.org/Index.cfm?Page=U...gID=139&Type=U
Research you say ?
OJs picture at High Desert STATE Prison
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/OJ-Simpson/ss/events/en/120408ojsimpson
Name: Orenthal Simpson
DOB: 07/09/1947 Sex: M
He's almost smiling and his eyes oooz evil thoughts.
barf
WOW! Thanks for the link, he is smiling isn't he?
A smile of a serial killer, right?
:eek:
Definitely someone who looks IMO that he's plotting something.
Incorrect again, trying to teach you the facts is an insult to you? You should be thankful. You are incorrect and posting wrong information won't make you right. You were given proof and you refuse to comprehend it. Enough already. I'm sure you didn't know pretending to be a lawyer when you're not is against the law.
:rolleyes:
" I fought a case for 10 years in the 17th and 4th district (that's court)and won, because I knew our client was right"
Since when do paralegals head cases?
I'm no lawyer but I've never heard of someone being sentenced in to a minimum security prison for a period of 10 years then getting their sentence overturned and released.
It seems being sentenced to minimum security sentences are 10 years or lower and this "client" would have been out anyways.
:blink:
AnnInOhio
12-11-2008, 12:05 PM
I think its far past time for everyone to let the Elgin AFB prison issue die. It is a matter of no relevance to OJ and CJ anyway and therefore is probably off topic. Just as jurors can decide what weight and credibility to give the testimony of different witnesses, I think we've all read enough to individually weigh the credibility of some of our fellow posters. A unanimous verdict is not required here.
I think its far past time for everyone to let the Elgin AFB prison issue die. It is a matter of no relevance to OJ and CJ anyway and therefore is probably off topic. Just as jurors can decide what weight and credibility to give the testimony of different witnesses, I think we've all read enough to individually weigh the credibility of some of our fellow posters. A unanimous verdict is not required here.
Idle hands waiting for more news in this trial as well as what Golly Gee posted on another thread. The petulant child syndrome and parenting.
Worse then no information is false information.
legalmania
12-11-2008, 08:27 PM
Wow - great Link! THat is SO funny. Well maybe Legamania is saying they'll reopen Elgin for OJ. He is so affable, they'll bend over backwards to accomodate him, I'm sure! :thumbsup:
It doesn't take much to make you laugh. The article says that they will rebuild when I don't know, and really don't care, when they do it has no impact on my life.
legalmania
12-11-2008, 09:24 PM
Be careful about what kind of advice you give that you take money for.
http://www.nala.org/whatis.htm
"Legal assistants and paralegals are individuals who assist lawyers in the delivery of legal services. Legal assistants and paralegals cannot give legal advice to consumers of legal services. Legal advice may only be relied upon if given by an attorney. All states require attorneys to be licensed and most have statutes imposing penalties for the unauthorized practice of law."
http://www.nala.org/whatis.htm#What
A legal assistant/paralegal cannot give legal advice, represent a client in court, set a fee, or accept a case, which functions are generally considered the practice of law.
I spent 8 weeks on the code of ethics I have a book to look up any questions I have, I appreciate your time and effort. Thank you anyway but I've been in good standing for a long time.
warhorse46
12-11-2008, 11:47 PM
That still doesn't explain why Conrad Brown is doing 6/1/2 years at Eglin Air Force Prison since 2007.
I think you meant Conrad Black & that was back in the late 60s.
http://www.the-daily-planet.ca/content.php?id=913
legalmania
12-12-2008, 01:21 AM
I think you meant Conrad Black & that was back in the late 60s.
http://www.the-daily-planet.ca/content.php?id=913
Your way off on that one I called my friend in Florida and he told me the whole story is in 1996 they knocked down some of the buildings but then in 2005 they wanted to demolish the whole thing budget cuts won. I believe they found a company based out of NY who said they can rebuild within their budget. This is the last time I'm talking about Eglin. Didn't you go through that hurricane? Did you ever rebuild or just move? I hope it worked out for you. You can PM me because I think this thread is full. Take care it's late. See post 792
I may have missed it and please excuse the post if I did. But does anyone know how long this intake facility takes before deciding where he will go next?
legalmania
12-12-2008, 08:29 AM
I may have missed it and please excuse the post if I did. But does anyone know how long this intake facility takes before deciding where he will go next?
Did you mean in Nevada? If you meant Nevada it is somewhere around a few weeks I think. I think I read somewhere that Yale is not going to be informative to the medis about his client. He said a good attorney doesn't try his client through the media. He did say he has about six strong issues for review on appeal.
legalmania
12-12-2008, 08:51 AM
All you have to do is google and find out this never happened.
Sounds like an episode of Law and Order.
:scared:
:lol:
google what ? You don't know who the plaintiff or defendant are or what the case was.
here you go book:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/12/oj-simpson-begi.html
Simpson, 61, was moved Monday. He will be in "protective custody" for a few months...
"There's a possibility he could be moved to Lovelock, the Nevada State Prison to the Northern Nevada Correctional Center, even to Ely State Prison although that's fairly unlikely given his sentence structure,"
:read:
Wow, no mention of a closed military prison at all. Can you believe that?
lol
Hey thanks!
Also says: He says they'll assign "The Juice" to a permanent prison in about three weeks.
That could be as soon as Jan 1? What a way to bring in the new year. A prison cell! ha! lol
He's "CANNED JUICE".
:thumbsup:
LMAO
You are too funny!
legalmania
12-12-2008, 10:00 AM
here you go book:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/12/oj-simpson-begi.html
Simpson, 61, was moved Monday. He will be in "protective custody" for a few months...
"There's a possibility he could be moved to Lovelock, the Nevada State Prison to the Northern Nevada Correctional Center, even to Ely State Prison although that's fairly unlikely given his sentence structure,"
:read:
Wow, no mention of a closed military prison at all. Can you believe that?
lol
A contractor in NY has put in the lowest bid for now for the rebuild. A new and improved Eglin,. By the way I had no idea that the signature I used was a Judge Judy saying. I had a boss that use to say it all the time. Let's see Judge Judy, law and order you sure do watch a lot of law tv. In the mean time I'm sure they'll find a prison like club fed , for the juice especially with his medical needs, there are a lot of them around. Forbes has a top 50's list.
AnnInOhio
12-12-2008, 10:06 AM
A contractor in NY has put in the lowest bid for now for the rebuild. A new and improved Eglin,. By the way I had no idea that the signature I used was a Judge Judy saying. I had a boss that use to say it all the time. Let's see Judge Judy, law and order you sure do watch a lot of law tv. In the mean time I'm sure they'll find a prison like club fed , for the juice especially with his medical needs, there are a lot of them around. Forbes has a top 50's list.
Judge Judy wrote a book with that title. Perhaps your boss had better reading comprehension than you.
http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Pee-Leg-Tell-Raining/dp/0060173211
I'd tend to think OJ's attorneys would have first-hand knowledge and a better feel for OJ's fate than you. They say he'll be staying in Nevada at one of their medium security prisons.
Discussing Eglin is off topic. Don't make me bring it issue to Coldwater's attention.
warhorse46
12-12-2008, 11:56 AM
A contractor in NY has put in the lowest bid for now for the rebuild. A new and improved Eglin,. By the way I had no idea that the signature I used was a Judge Judy saying. I had a boss that use to say it all the time. Let's see Judge Judy, law and order you sure do watch a lot of law tv. In the mean time I'm sure they'll find a prison like club fed , for the juice especially with his medical needs, there are a lot of them around. Forbes has a top 50's list.
<<A contractor in NY has put in the lowest bid for now for the rebuild. A new and improved Eglin>>
Care to back that statement of fact up with links to credible sites?
<< I'm sure they'll find a prison like club fed>>
I see you are still confused about the difference between state prison & federal prison. OJ was tried & convicted in state court, how do you figure he will be transfered to a federal prison?
If you google like she did, you will find all the stories regarding Eglin are old. So once again she is incorrect.
Beating a dead horse is what it is. I guess maybe we can make a pact and only respond to new posters who re-post the false information and just correct them with the facts with our back up information.
Hanging the do not feed sign out. :thumbsup:
Beating a dead horse is what it is. I guess maybe we can make a pact and only respond to new posters who re-post the false information and just correct them with the facts with our back up information.
Hanging the do not feed sign out. :thumbsup:
ITA................:thumbup:
legalmania
12-13-2008, 08:18 AM
Whatever happens to OJ doesn't affect my life one way or another. I'm sure he will be treated with respect and dignity. In a few weeks he will be transferred to an undisclosed state prison, It's up to his family and attorneys from that point on to fight for him to regain his freedom.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-simpson13-2008dec13,0,6783728.story
O.J. Simpson paid off witness, investigator tells court
He says Alfred Beardsley told him he changed his testimony in return for O.J. Simpson's Hall of Fame ring. Beardsley takes the 5th at a hearing in the Goldmans' quest for Simpson's assets.
By Harriet Ryan
December 13, 2008
A key witness in O.J. Simpson's Las Vegas trial acknowledged to a Nevada investigator that the former NFL star paid him off, the investigator told a judge in Santa Monica on Friday.
The investigator from the Clark County district attorney's office said Alfred Beardsley, a loquacious collectibles dealer whose credibility was frequently assailed during the trial, claimed Simpson gave him his Hall of Fame ring in exchange for altering his testimony to help the defense.
"I asked, 'What did you get to change your testimony?' " said Bill Falkner, who worked with prosecutors who built the armed robbery and kidnapping case against Simpson.
The answer, he said, was the Hall of Fame ring.
continued....
charges of perjury...........??
Sorry I didn't respond sooner. I had to attend tea with the Queen. It was quite lovely.
Anymore news on Yale and Scotto? When does the scales of justice come crashing down on their pea heads? hammer
Whoa I was wondering who the person was to the right of her! (I was across the table / sash & tiara maybe you noticed?)
warhorse46
12-13-2008, 12:02 PM
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-simpson13-2008dec13,0,6783728.story
O.J. Simpson paid off witness, investigator tells court
He says Alfred Beardsley told him he changed his testimony in return for O.J. Simpson's Hall of Fame ring. Beardsley takes the 5th at a hearing in the Goldmans' quest for Simpson's assets.
By Harriet Ryan
December 13, 2008
A key witness in O.J. Simpson's Las Vegas trial acknowledged to a Nevada investigator that the former NFL star paid him off, the investigator told a judge in Santa Monica on Friday.
The investigator from the Clark County district attorney's office said Alfred Beardsley, a loquacious collectibles dealer whose credibility was frequently assailed during the trial, claimed Simpson gave him his Hall of Fame ring in exchange for altering his testimony to help the defense.
"I asked, 'What did you get to change your testimony?' " said Bill Falkner, who worked with prosecutors who built the armed robbery and kidnapping case against Simpson.
The answer, he said, was the Hall of Fame ring.
continued....
Why does this not surprise me? About both OJ & Beardsley.
Why does this not surprise me? About both OJ & Beardsley.
Well IMO he should be charged with perjury!
Why does this not surprise me? About both OJ & Beardsley.
They both have equal credibility.
Beardsley is such an OJ groupie and compulsive liar and teller of tall tales then you have OJ who is notorious for giving his things away for services rendered.
:shrug:
penguin01
12-13-2008, 02:08 PM
Yup and how about Yale, Scotto and Fromong? They are all in on this. IMO
I read where Scotto was talking to Greta Van S and he has come to like Riccio now. I think that is so funny! I can't seem to find it now - anyone got a link to that?
Yup and how about Yale, Scotto and Fromong? They are all in on this. IMO
ITA all of them.
penguin01
12-13-2008, 04:02 PM
I chuckled at this. Wonder what Riccio has done for him lately? I'm just amazed how Scotto really thinks he's a "somebody". He's a two bit criminal willing to go to jail for his evil friend OJ.
LOL I agree with the 2 bit criminal comment - but he'll be lying, kicking a screaming "no fair" when he gets charged with something. And then, IMO, he will fold like a card table and tell everything he knows! Hope it happens.
legalmania
12-13-2008, 09:58 PM
<<A contractor in NY has put in the lowest bid for now for the rebuild. A new and improved Eglin>>
Care to back that statement of fact up with links to credible sites?
<< I'm sure they'll find a prison like club fed>>
I see you are still confused about the difference between state prison & federal prison. OJ was tried & convicted in state court, how do you figure he will be transfered to a federal prison?
This is how I'm still waiting for an e-mail on the rebuild of Eglin Air Force Prison
http://arkansas.exposed.tripod.com/prison.html
<<A contractor in NY has put in the lowest bid for now for the rebuild. A new and improved Eglin>>
Care to back that statement of fact up with links to credible sites?
<< I'm sure they'll find a prison like club fed>>
I see you are still confused about the difference between state prison & federal prison. OJ was tried & convicted in state court, how do you figure he will be transfered to a federal prison?
Not to mention the difference between a white collar crime and a violent crime or minimum security prison or medium security prison.
OJ is none of these. But I digress.....
AnnInOhio
12-13-2008, 11:29 PM
This is how I'm still waiting for an e-mail on the rebuild of Eglin Air Force Prison
http://arkansas.exposed.tripod.com/prison.html
I'm not sure what you were trying to "prove". Your "source" was an undated tripod blog. I don't hear anybody disputing that Eglin, when it was open, was a pretty cushy minimum security Federal prison. I'm not going to put enough effort into the matter to verify whether or not Wilson was in prison at Eglin. I'm simply offering a link to an Arkansas TV station which says Nick Wilson's case took place in 1999/2000. He was released from prison in 2005, before Eglin was closed. His was a federal, not state, case.
http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=7413649&nav=0jsfdaml
AnnInOhio
12-14-2008, 12:30 AM
This is how I'm still waiting for an e-mail on the rebuild of Eglin Air Force Prison
http://arkansas.exposed.tripod.com/prison.html
Legal, thought you might find this 1/3/06 entry on this site of interest...
Looks like even if OJ had been convicted in Federal instead of state court, the Bureau of Prisons is doing away with "Club Fed" destinations. Doesn't look good for your theory.
http://www.americanprisonconsultants.com/media.html
"Bales, the consultant, said recent closures of prison camps were blamed on cost-cutting, but the federal prison system also appears eager to shed the "Club Fed" legacy.
Nellis, along with the Eglin camp in Florida and the Seymour Johnson camp in North Carolina, were preferred destinations for white-collar criminals and other low-risk inmates, All are attached to Air Force bases, where they provide convict labor, and all three are in the process of shutting down.
Change of priorities
Facilities with relaxed environments and cush work details no longer are priorities for the prison bureau. I think it's the main reason they closed the facilities," said Bales, who added that many camps now are located in complexes adjacent to tougher units. Wardens who oversee the multi-unit complexes tend to treat prisoners in camps more strictly, however, minimum-security prisoners typically coexist well with low- or even medium-security inmates.
warhorse46
12-14-2008, 12:34 AM
This is how I'm still waiting for an e-mail on the rebuild of Eglin Air Force Prison
http://arkansas.exposed.tripod.com/prison.html
Blogs are not credible sources of info. Any person with access to a computer can start a blog & write what ever they wish on it. They are not held to any standards like mainstream media are.
Blogs are not credible sources of info. Any person with access to a computer can start a blog & write what ever they wish on it. They are not held to any standards like mainstream media are.
And IMO sometimes the media shouldn't be either.
AnnInOhio
12-14-2008, 10:59 AM
And IMO sometimes the media shouldn't be either.
Agreed.:wink:
That list is out dated. Click on the Eglin link it goes NO WHERE.
However they are kind enough to provide a link from the FEDERAL BOP
Federal Prison Facilities Locator
http://www.bop.gov/DataSource/execute/dsFacilityLoc?fl_StartSearch=reset
to Double check. NO PRISON AT EGLIN LISTED.
No where does warhorse state the media is always reliable. They are held to a higher standard. "Reading is Fundamental". Warhorse is not insinuating that blogs are not credible. It's a statement, declaration and in other words a FACT. They are only as credible as the person owning it to be diligent in getting the facts and keeping it current.
Is Dan Rather sticking to his story, insisting he is correct even though proven wrong? I believe they've all conceeded when they were PROVED WRONG unlike some.
AnnInOhio
12-14-2008, 01:59 PM
Apparently you didn't check out your own link. Try the link to #79, Eglin on its list. I did. It links to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Camp,_Eglin
Wikipedia deleted their entry for Eglin prison, effective 12/21/05. Now why might that be? Perhaps because the prison closed in 2005?? Your credibility sinks ever lower.
Apparently you didn't check out your own link. Try the link to #79, Eglin on its list. I did. It links to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Camp,_Eglin
Wikipedia deleted their entry for Eglin prison, effective 12/21/05. Now why might that be? Perhaps because the prison closed in 2005?? Your credibility sinks ever lower.
And a big I-000000000000 to Ann. *yawn* yes, their stance is still "INCORRECT" and blatanly false. Talk about someone's inability to be wrong. This has reached DSM levels.
NYGalPal
12-15-2008, 09:31 AM
Here is a credible blog from USToday. Sorry if this has been posted before.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/12/oj-simpson-begi.html
Simpson, 61, was moved Monday. He will be in "protective custody" for a few months.
“If you were a young gang member trying to make a name for yourself or just any inmate trying to make a name for yourself looking for your 15 minutes of fame, OJ would be a great vehicle to get there,” Director Howard Skolnik tells the Las Vegas Sun.
He says they'll assign "The Juice" to a permanent prison in about three weeks.
"There's a possibility he could be moved to Lovelock, the Nevada State Prison to the Northern Nevada Correctional Center, even to Ely State Prison although that's fairly unlikely given his sentence structure," Skolnick says, according to KTNV-TV.
*Spike*
02-22-2009, 02:46 PM
i agree with the verdict & the sentence. JMO
Themis
02-27-2009, 07:14 PM
What every happened to OJs girlfriend now that her loser bf is in jail for a long time?
As far as any reporting goes, Christie Prody has faded off into the sunset. From all reports she has had some long standing issues with alcohol and drugs -- confirmed at one time by her mother who tried to help her.
Here is my "What Ever Happened To" question:
What about Charles Cashmore's arrest on December 31, 2008 for a probation violation -- failing a drug test. It was reported that test results were positive for Meth and the repercussions could be severe.
As I recall, his sentence from Judge Jackie Glass was 6 years (maybe 7) but suspended as long as he stayed on the right side of the law.
I've looked and looked and never found whether Judge Glass revoked probation and actually sentenced him to do some time.
Anyone know?
TIA [JMO]
penguin01
02-27-2009, 07:50 PM
As far as any reporting goes, Christie Prody has faded off into the sunset. From all reports she has had some long standing issues with alcohol and drugs -- confirmed at one time by her mother who tried to help her.
Here is my "What Ever Happened To" question:
What about Charles Cashmore's arrest on December 31, 2008 for a probation violation -- failing a drug test. It was reported that test results were positive for Meth and the repercussions could be severe.
As I recall, his sentence from Judge Jackie Glass was 6 years (maybe 7) but suspended as long as he stayed on the right side of the law.
I've looked and looked and never found whether Judge Glass revoked probation and actually sentenced him to do some time.
Anyone know?
TIA [JMO] It must have been part of his deal - testify for the pros. and it all goes away. I do hope Prody is back in rehab. Perhaps that is why we don't hear anything about her.
Themis
02-28-2009, 12:18 AM
It must have been part of his deal - testify for the pros. and it all goes away. I do hope Prody is back in rehab. Perhaps that is why we don't hear anything about her.Obviously you did not read or comprehend my question about Charles Cashmore. No, for Cashmore it did not all go away to use your words.
Charles Cashmore 41, of Las Vegas, pleaded guilty to felony accessory to robbery. He faced up to five years in prison. Cashmore was sentenced to one to three years, suspended; three years of probation.
Yes, he got probation in lieu of serving actual prison time. That sentence was issued by Judge Glass on DECEMBER 8, 2008.
I said he was arrested again, this time for probation violation - did not pass his drug test on 12-31-08. My question was does anyone know if his probation was revoked and was he then sent to jail or prison.
mrrogers
02-28-2009, 06:20 AM
oj really messed up not taking the plea deal
he overplayed his hand i hope he doesnt die in prision
i wonder how this effects his retiremt pay
it will be a huge amount and he will be an old man \\
id consider it a miracle if he gets out early on parole
i guess his kids will take care of his house and stuff
its just unbelievable all the others got off with
probation or 2-4 years and oj got 9 to 33 years
heck he could die in prison
should have took the plea offered
2 bad i always liked oj
penguin01
02-28-2009, 02:22 PM
oj really messed up not taking the plea deal
he overplayed his hand i hope he doesnt die in prision
i wonder how this effects his retiremt pay
it will be a huge amount and he will be an old man \\
id consider it a miracle if he gets out early on parole
i guess his kids will take care of his house and stuff
its just unbelievable all the others got off with
probation or 2-4 years and oj got 9 to 33 years
heck he could die in prison
should have took the plea offered
2 bad i always liked oj
Always??:scared:
apocalypse
03-02-2009, 01:36 AM
I am coming in late to this discussion, but I just read very recently that OJ LOVES his prison. It is all new - he plays cards with his new buddies all day, lies around and watches TV...sounds like a real lax party atmosphere. He even said the food was great and that he had gained weight. I know it's not fair that he always lucks out. Oh well,maybe he'll live happily ever after there.
penguin01
03-02-2009, 03:35 PM
I am coming in late to this discussion, but I just read very recently that OJ LOVES his prison. It is all new - he plays cards with his new buddies all day, lies around and watches TV...sounds like a real lax party atmosphere. He even said the food was great and that he had gained weight. I know it's not fair that he always lucks out. Oh well,maybe he'll live happily ever after there.
And I've been reading about how the prisons around the country have been trying to figure out how to crack down on the cell phones many prisoners have. I envision OJ chatting away with his buddies on the "outside" to his heart's content.
penguin01
03-02-2009, 03:51 PM
Obviously you did not read or comprehend my question about Charles Cashmore. No, for Cashmore it did not all go away to use your words.
Charles Cashmore 41, of Las Vegas, pleaded guilty to felony accessory to robbery. He faced up to five years in prison. Cashmore was sentenced to one to three years, suspended; three years of probation.
Yes, he got probation in lieu of serving actual prison time. That sentence was issued by Judge Glass on DECEMBER 8, 2008.
I said he was arrested again, this time for probation violation - did not pass his drug test on 12-31-08. My question was does anyone know if his probation was revoked and was he then sent to jail or prison.
Sorry - didn't pick up on the dates you posted. My bad. Certainly didn't mean to irritate you so much. Haven't seen any news on him since JANUARY 8 - he was in jail at that point and several articles stated that he may have to serve his suspended sentence. Don't know when that gets decided, by whom or where he is now.
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