Michelle Fisher Young murder: Dec. 5/08 >>

[JD1974]

Poor Rhett, poor Meredith. Jason beat Michelle to death and the two of them are slandered daily on a message board.



How is that slander???? LOL Rhett is a gay man, the search was for gay bars...

[kingbuff]

Hey can you link one single civil suit that was thrown out because the other party didn't show up? It may have been able to be thrown out if Jason actually replied to the suit, that I don't know. I do know that every person who has talked about the WDS has said the judge really had no choice but to rule in favor of Linda because Jason conceded, so are they all lying? No offense but I would believe lawyers in the state of NC over message board posters anyday.


Here is the reason Jason was declared the slayer..


Superior Court Judge Donald Stephens ruled Friday that because Young failed to respond to the civil complaint by his wife's mother, he conceded a civil judgment that holds him liable in Michelle Young's Nov. 3, 2006, death. http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4102020/


No comments on if Jason really did it, there was no trial, it was a default judgement that the judge had no choice but to order. I am not sure there is a way to spin plain english.

I'm not sure concede is the right word. My impression is Jason just refused to be interrogated. Did you see Cooper's 7-hour interrogation? That wasn't justice--that was torture. Would you put yourself through that? I would tell the woman to take whatever she wanted before I would sit through that.

[5swab5]

Hi Gbmy.
Welcome back.
C looks tired and cranky, not exactly the kind of pic that would draw chicks in.
Kat

You could be right. Of course, I don't know what was underneath that railing. Crocodiles? Sharks? TROLLS?

YET, Jason uses one of the MOST flattering pics ever taken of HIM...to "chum" on the net for chicks.

IF that isn't exploitation, I don't know what is!

Poor, poor Cassidy!

MOO

[JD1974]

I'm not sure concede is the right word. My impression is Jason just refused to be interrogated. Did you see Cooper's 7-hour interrogation? That wasn't justice--that was torture. Would you put yourself through that? I would tell the woman to take whatever she wanted before I would sit through that.


I know! No money is worth that, that made me shiver and I wasn't being interrogated

[Jester]

I'm not sure concede is the right word. My impression is Jason just refused to be interrogated. Did you see Cooper's 7-hour interrogation? That wasn't justice--that was torture. Would you put yourself through that? I would tell the woman to take whatever she wanted before I would sit through that.

Apparently Jason thinks just like you do, and did just that. That's about $143,000 an hour he passed up so he wouldn't be tortured with words. What a guy!

[kingbuff]

As opposed to the lying, cheating, philandering HUSBAND, that according to SWs was looking up "gay" bars for each of his vacation destinations?

Good Luck with that.

MOO

I don't know why you are so hateful toward Michelle's husband. But I'm glad you have the right to bash anyone you want to on a board. You seem to think no one else had access to that computer. Was Jason the one who spent so much time in New York? I thought that was Michelle, Meredith, Linda.

[Kat4Eagles]

Are you suggesting that there are nine allegations of theft against Meredith? Shall be make it fifty and call it a day?


Nope, the count was 9....

Don't ask me, I didn't post it.

I only read about it.

<~~innocent
:)
Kat

[Jester]

Nope, the count was 9....

Don't ask me, I didn't post it.

I only read about it.

<~~innocent
:)
Kat

You claim you read that it was 9 counts. Where did you read this? Enlighten us please.

Alternatively, I'll settle for an even 20. Would that appease the rumor crowd?

[5swab5]

I can't believe I missed this.

I know I read it was 9 counts, how do you make a mistake 9 times?

Kat

Very Nice.

Propagate a RUMOR that by YOUR OWN ADMISSION, you were not even here for.

What's next?


MOO

Swabby

[annalyzer]

Nope, the count was 9....

Don't ask me, I didn't post it.

I only read about it.

<~~innocent
:)
Kat


LOL Hey Kat. Was today a grand jury day? I asked earlier and no one answered. :huh:

[kingbuff]

Apparently Jason thinks just like you do, and did just that. That's about $143,000 an hour he passed up so he wouldn't be tortured with words. What a guy!

The money was going to Cassidy anyway. All Mrs. Fisher did was involve herself in the murder investigation. As someone else pointed out, Cassie can now get the money without Jason applying for it. I don't know who will be trustee for the money, but I think I know who will not be.

[Kat4Eagles]

I don't know why you are so hateful toward Michelle's husband. But I'm glad you have the right to bash anyone you want to on a board. You seem to think no one else had access to that computer. Was Jason the one who spent so much time in New York? I thought that was Michelle, Meredith, Linda.



Have you ever clicked on a link or googled something that was not what you were initially looking for?

I still say a lot of the details in the latest s/w is to get people to start asking questions and to demand to know why an arrest has not been made.

I know that is the first thing I thought of..in fact, I was sure an arrest would come within hours of reading that.


So, for the millioneth, zillioneth, trillioneth, xillioneth time, why no arrest?
Kat

[MerriMent]

I finally looked up the definition of embezzle. It's not the same as steal, but is harder to spell. My question is, if Meredith were arrested for embezzlement, why is that important in the murder case? I don't think that would be motive for murder. But if she were to try to gain custody of Cassidy, I think her background would be important.

Embezzlement is a crime by someone who thinks they are too clever to be caught and even when caught, will try to blame someone else. A murder unsolved two years later even though there are conflicting statements to LE made by someone who has spent the last two years blaming someone else. You don't see a pattern here?

[Kat4Eagles]

LOL Hey Kat. Was today a grand jury day? I asked earlier and no one answered. :huh:

Hi Anna.....
I think so, guess nothing happened.....
So far.
It is imminent though.
:)
Kat

[5swab5]

Are you suggesting that there are nine allegations of theft against Meredith? Shall be make it fifty and call it a day?


No kidding!

Where WAS Meredith during the JFK assassination?

Talk about "piling on".

Geeze!

MOO

[Kat4Eagles]

Where? You can't post something like that without some sort of link to back it up.

Sure I can.
I have already stated that I read it in the old posts that I was reading when catching up on the case.
:)
Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Kat, do you have a link for the 9 counts?

Did you ask the original poster for a link when it was posted?
Maybe they have saved it.
:)
Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Embezzlement is a crime by someone who thinks they are too clever to be caught and even when caught, will try to blame someone else. A murder unsolved two years later even though there are conflicting statements to LE made by someone who has spent the last two years blaming someone else. You don't see a pattern here?


I want to know about the keys.

Kat

[annalyzer]

I guess they are waiting until Christmas.

Nite everyone. :sleep:

[MerriMent]

The money was going to Cassidy anyway. All Mrs. Fisher did was involve herself in the murder investigation. As someone else pointed out, Cassie can now get the money without Jason applying for it. I don't know who will be trustee for the money, but I think I know who will not be.

I just hope Jason promptly attends to it so that Mrs. Fisher can no longer exploit it.

[5swab5]

I don't know why you are so hateful toward Michelle's husband. But I'm glad you have the right to bash anyone you want to on a board. You seem to think no one else had access to that computer. Was Jason the one who spent so much time in New York? I thought that was Michelle, Meredith, Linda.

You are correct.

It is your right to think that I am wrong.

MOO

[Kat4Eagles]

Can you link them? I have never seen them, nor have a lot of others. Maybe you could put the whole issue to rest then.

Thanxxxxxxxxx


I am not interested in putting it to rest, as myself and others are curious as to what finally happened.

All we want to know is the outcome and how it was settled.

You're welcome.

:wink:

Kat

[MerriMent]

Did you ask the original poster for a link when it was posted?
Maybe they have saved it.
:)
Kat

It was also re-hashed months later.

[Kat4Eagles]

I guess they are waiting until Christmas.

Nite everyone. :sleep:

Nite Anna !!
Christmas=16 days away.
:)
Kat

[MerriMent]

Sure I can.
I have already stated that I read it in the old posts that I was reading when catching up on the case.
:)
Kat

You are correct. Unfortunately, a lot of those old posts have disappeared because of the incredible volume.

[Kat4Eagles]

It was also re-hashed months later.

As it should be....
I am surprised to see it was on all the other sites too.
So, it wasn't just posted here.
Interesting.
Kat

[MerriMent]

I am not interested in putting it to rest, as myself and others are curious as to what finally happened.

All we want to know is the outcome and how it was settled.

You're welcome.

:wink:

Kat

I'd be interested in knowing that, too. I guess we'll just have to wait until charges are brought against Meredith in this case.

[Kat4Eagles]

So, YOU can post here that there were 9 counts against Meredith.......have nothing to back it up, and thats allowed here?

All you have to do is post that YOU are not interested?


I am very interested in it, what do you know?

Kat

[5swab5]

The money was going to Cassidy anyway. All Mrs. Fisher did was involve herself in the murder investigation. As someone else pointed out, Cassie can now get the money without Jason applying for it. I don't know who will be trustee for the money, but I think I know who will not be.

Anyone, EXCEPT a member of the YOUNG family!

I vote for that!

Michelle & Rylan's BLOOD MONEY should NEVER be in the running to pay for the slayer's defense team!

MOO

[MerriMent]

Don't twist. You said YOU saw 9 counts. Waiting for the link.

Can't link to something that is no longer here and Kat isn't the only poster who saw it.

[5swab5]

Embezzlement is a crime by someone who thinks they are too clever to be caught and even when caught, will try to blame someone else. A murder unsolved two years later even though there are conflicting statements to LE made by someone who has spent the last two years blaming someone else. You don't see a pattern here?


What about people that are married to people that embezzle, reap ALL the benefits...and then...let's just say...for arguments sake...Divorce while their partner spends time in the can? Remarry and carry on....

Think that VERY same "wronged" spouse wouldn't know the ins & outs of the penal system?

MOO

[MerriMent]

Charges won't be brought against Meredith.

That's your wishful thinking. I have yet to see a case where someone makes inconsistent statements to LE and never gets charged.

[Lindsey]

Don't twist. You said YOU saw 9 counts. Waiting for the link.


A link was posted earlier. I think it was Cardinal that posted it? It mentions the 9 counts and that's what I remember being posted here way back then. You can do a search.

[MerriMent]

What about people that are married to people that embezzle, reap ALL the benefits...and then...let's just say...for arguments sake...Divorce while their partner spends time in the can? Remarry and carry on....

Think that VERY same "wronged" spouse wouldn't know the ins & outs of the penal system?

MOO

Spouses who aren't aware of the embezzlement aren't guilty of any crime. Most embezzlers are required to make restitution. I certainly don't blame someone for divorcing after such a betrayal, do you?

[MerriMent]

Thus far, all of your predicitions have turned out wrong, so I can only assume that this one will too.

feel free to assume. It's what you do best.

[5swab5]

I can't believe I missed this.

I know I read it was 9 counts, how do you make a mistake 9 times?

Kat



Kat,

I know that you and I are on opposing ends of the "Who Killed Michelle & Rylan" mystery. Having said that, I am flabbergasted that you, YOU of all people would be seduced into spreading such a vicious rumor.

Things must really be getting desperate in Brevard.

MOO

nite-to-all

[Kat4Eagles]

A link was posted earlier. I think it was Cardinal that posted it? It mentions the 9 counts and that's what I remember being posted here way back then. You can do a search.

Thank you, I just wanted to know how it was resolved.
No one has an answer.

:confused:

Kat

[MerriMent]

As do you.

You are the one who stated over and over that the WDS would be thrown out. It wasn't and Jason was named the "SLAYER" of Michelle.

I don't assume, I speculate. You don't bother. Instead, you parrot a silly mantra. The wrongful death lawsuit would have been thrown out if Jason's lawyer had filed a motion. He didn't. He preferred Jason be named "slayer" because it's meaningless to everyone but those who parrot.

[MerriMent]

Thank you, I just wanted to know how it was resolved.
No one has an answer.

:confused:

Kat

I think it was swept under the rug at the time by a compassionate DA. That's not to say it can't be brought up again. If it happened, it happened.

[Lindsey]

What Cardinal posted was gossip on a message board, she even said so.

You asked for a link that said 9 counts as if you didn't believe Kat read it somewhere. Cardinal would have no more knowledge than we do as to the truth of the matter. She even said so.

I was here when all that was posted back then too so I know how it went down. I think I've said all I want to say on the matter tho.

IMO

ETA: It's been said that A L knows things about this case that she's never reported. I wonder if this could be one of those things.

[MerriMent]

You asked for a link that said 9 counts as if you didn't believe Kat read it somewhere. Cardinal would have no more knowledge than we do as to the truth of the matter. She even said so.

I was here when all that was posted back then too so I know how it went down. I think I've said all I want to say on the matter tho.

IMO

It certainly appears there is some truth to the matter. The Judge ruled the insurance should be paid out to the next beneficiary. He didn't rule it should go directly to the estate with LF in charge of it for CY, which is what LF asked.

[5swab5]

That's your wishful thinking. I have yet to see a case where someone makes inconsistent statements to LE and never gets charged.


You might want to rethink/rephrase that one. Innocent family members, neighbors, friends routinely pitch-in, when someone is brutally murdered. Doubly so, when the victim is a pregnant wife.

BUT, Jason Lynn Young can't be bothered. Gotta be a reason for that. Common sense only dictates ONE thing.

MOO

[MerriMent]

You might want to rethink/rephrase that one. Innocent family members, neighbors, friends routinely pitch-in, when someone is brutally murdered. Doubly so, when the victim is a pregnant wife.

BUT, Jason Lynn Young can't be bothered. Gotta be a reason for that. Common sense only dictates ONE thing.

MOO

I don't need to rephrase. Fact is, Innocent family members don't repeatedly make conflicting statements to police.

You are not the best authority on common sense.

[5swab5]

I don't need to rephrase. Fact is, Innocent family members don't repeatedly make conflicting statements to police.

You are not the best authority on common sense.

I understand that is your opinion.

Wrong as it may be.

MOO

[MerriMent]

I understand that is your opinion.

Wrong as it may be.

MOO

My opinion that innocent family members don't repeatedly make conflicting statements to police is wrong??? It sounds as though you are trying to rationalize your own deceptive actions and are projecting.

My opinion isn't wrong no matter how you lamely spin it.

[5swab5]

I think it was swept under the rug at the time by a compassionate DA. That's not to say it can't be brought up again. If it happened, it happened.


The attempts at vilifying Meredith on this site have gone WAY beyond a normal course of events.

The crazy mixed-up "event" that the Jason supporters insist on regurgitating, even expounding on from time to time, will never change the facts.

Jason Lynn Young brutally annihilated his wife and unborn child, hence the title... SLAYER!
MOO

[5swab5]

My opinion that innocent family members don't repeatedly make conflicting statements to police is wrong??? It sounds as though you are trying to rationalize your own deceptive actions and are projecting.

My opinion isn't wrong no matter how you lamely spin it.

I don't have to spin anything of yours.

Everyone is already dizzy.

MOO

[5swab5]

I don't need to rephrase. Fact is, Innocent family members don't repeatedly make conflicting statements to police.

You are not the best authority on common sense.

What do guilty family members do?

They "lawyer-up", "shut-up" , move home to mommie, ignore a million dollar LI policy, and have themselves declared a SLAYER!

I stand corrected.

MOO

[Hey Paula]

Why wouldn't an innocent man answer accusations by his MIL of having killed her pregnant daughter and the mother of his child?

When Cassidy is old enough to investigate this tragedy herself, she will know that her father didn't respond to a wrongful death lawsuit filed by her maternal grandmother. She will make her own determination as to why her father didn't deny such a heinous charge and why he refused to cooperate with LE in the investigation of her murdered mother, who was savagely bludgeoned to death, and her unborn brother, Rylan, who died as a result.

Kim is aware of the damage Cassidy might suffer, through her father being called a "killer", and brought it to her brother's attention, as per the SW.

IMO

[Regina.Lampert]

That's your wishful thinking. I have yet to see a case where someone makes inconsistent statements to LE and never gets charged.

LOL, people lie to the police all the time in an investigation and do not necessarily get "charged." The lie must be judged to be about a material fact in the investigation, imo. You should check out the Caylee Anthony case to see this theory in practice, they all lie in that one. IMO.

[JHP]

Why wouldn't an innocent man answer accusations by his MIL of having killed her pregnant daughter and the mother of his child?

When Cassidy is old enough to investigate this tragedy herself, she will know that her father didn't respond to a wrongful death lawsuit filed by her maternal grandmother. She will make her own determination as to why her father didn't deny such a heinous charge and why he refused to cooperate with LE in the investigation of her murdered mother, who was savagely bludgeoned to death, and her unborn brother, Rylan, who died as a result.

Kim is aware of the damage Cassidy might suffer, through her father being called a "killer", and brought it to her brother's attention, as per the SW.

IMO

Whats worse is she may remember that horrid morning and what went on as far as who put her in bed next her her mother.

Maybe the entire Young Family is thinking about relocating to Puerto Rico. Although they won't be immune to U.S.laws there. Maybe they should give St.John a try. It's much classier.

JMO

[Jester]

Merriment and Confused are writing about three conflicting statements made by Meredith, but neither is able to articulate those statements. Kat, Cardinal, and Lindsay are talking about 9 counts of embezzlement against Meredith that they read about on a topix message board two years ago.

Maybe it's time for a separate thread for discussions of rumors about Meredith so this thread can focus on Michelle Fisher Young's murder investigation.

[BSNBREVARDNC]

I don't need to rephrase. Fact is, Innocent family members don't repeatedly make conflicting statements to police.

You are not the best authority on common sense.

What a double standard!!!!

Fact is Innocent family members don't lawyer up and refuse to assist in the investigation of a murdered love one.

[Lindsey]

Merriment and Confused are writing about three conflicting statements made by Meredith, but neither is able to articulate those statements. Kat, Cardinal, and Lindsay are talking about 9 counts of embezzlement against Meredith that they read about on a topix message board two years ago.

Maybe it's time for a separate thread for discussions of rumors about Meredith so this thread can focus on Michelle Fisher Young's murder investigation.

No, I read about it here on this board two years ago. And I only post about it when someone else brings it up and tries to say none of it ever happened. It did happen. Things got worked out so MF wasn't arrested for it but the rest was true according to more than one person who had inside sources. Personally I'm tired of talking about it but I can't just sit here and see wrong info posted without speaking up.

I agree we need a new thread so we can continue to discuss the Michelle Young murder. This one is way too big.

IMO

[Jester]

Excellent idea!! Did you mention it to CW?

In defense of Cardinal, she did post that all she could find was 'cyber gossip' and I was under the impression that she did not buy into it.

Unfortunately, some other posters have run with it, trying to make it fact without providing any type of link or proof, then becoming hostile when asked for links and/or proof.

I know CW regularly bans people, so she must regularly read here. Hopefully she will get this thread back on topic soon.

I was also under the impression that linking to another message board was a no-no, so I'm surprised that a two year old discussion from some internet message board is brought here as fact, discussed for pages, and requests for links are met with "not interested".

[Jester]

No, I read about it here on this board two years ago. And I only post about it when someone else brings it up and tries to say none of it ever happened. It did happen. Things got worked out so MF wasn't arrested for it but the rest was true according to more than one person who had inside sources. Personally I'm tired of talking about it but I can't just sit here and see wrong info posted without speaking up.

I agree we need a new thread so we can continue to discuss the Michelle Young murder. This one is way too big.

IMO

If it was linked as fact or evidence two years ago, then those facts still stand and still exist. It's time to repost the correct link. By correct, I mean fact, not rumors on random message boards.

[Lindsey]

What you aren't getting is that the info was FALSE. Yet continues to be brought here as fact.

Jester was suggesting a seperate thread for those posters who want to continue to discuss Meredith so that the rest of us could discuss the case.

Honestly, I am tired of it too. Its old news and was put to rest two years ago. It very sad what people will do to vilify the victim's family.

The only part of the info that was FALSE was we should keep watching the news for MF's arrest, which would be announced any minute. Things got worked out and no arrest took place. I'm not trying to vilify anybody but I know what was reported here by more than one person who was 'in the know'.

I've tried to start a new thread two days in a row and I get a msg it will have to be approved and the new thread never shows up. This one is over twice as big as CW normally likes them to be. I don't know what's wrong.

Getting back on track, I checked the news sites already and don't see anything about this case in today's news. I wonder if the GJ once again didn't indict or if it means that Jason just isn't in custody yet.

[Lindsey]

I am under the impression, from CW, that if you don't tell her and point out these posts, she doesn't know. she has all the other threads to watch so basically, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

I am going to start a new thread if no one else did already.

Good luck.

[Leanne Weich]

The only part of the info that was FALSE was we should keep watching the news for MF's arrest, which would be announced any minute. Things got worked out and no arrest took place. I'm not trying to vilify anybody but I know what was reported here by more than one person who was 'in the know'.

I've tried to start a new thread two days in a row and I get a msg it will have to be approved and the new thread never shows up. This one is over twice as big as CW normally likes them to be. I don't know what's wrong.

Getting back on track, I checked the news sites already and don't see anything about this case in today's news. I wonder if the GJ once again didn't indict or if it means that Jason just isn't in custody yet.

I think the problem with the MF stealing story was that it was BS which was fed to unsuspecting posters by someone close to JY. That info. was brought to this board in good faith and was later found to be BS. A lot of misinformation has been or attempted to be fed to people by people close to Jason over the past 25 months. The main perpetrator of the initial false allegation has dropped the subject but hasn't told his minions that they should do the same, imo.

[Lindsey]

I tried too and got the same message.

I don't remember it that way neither do a lot of other posters. I don't remember you being here then, but I could be wrong.

We are all wondering the same thing, what went down yesterday, if anything?

Your memory is wrong. I was here.

I think yesterday is the first day in awhile now that we didn't get any news about this case. I expected something to be posted by this morning. I hope it's not gonna die back down now after all the activity of the last few weeks.

[Barbara2]

There is a new story but it doesn't have any new information:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6427041&page=1

[kingbuff]

I think the problem with the MF stealing story was that it was BS which was fed to unsuspecting posters by someone close to JY. That info. was brought to this board in good faith and was later found to be BS. A lot of misinformation has been or attempted to be fed to people by people close to Jason over the past 25 months. The main perpetrator of the initial false allegation has dropped the subject but hasn't told his minions that they should do the same, imo.

I think you're right. So long as his minions keep defending the accusation, the attacks on Meredith will continue. His minions should just say so what and move on.

I'm not accusing anyone of wrongdoing, but I am curious why my check was returned and never deposited in Cassie's account. Did anyone else have that experience? I know of two other checks that were returned.

[Lindsey]

There is a new story but it doesn't have any new information:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6427041&page=1

Thanks Barbara. From your link

Wake County Assistant District Attorney Howard Cummings said that explaining why Jason Young has not been charged would require revealing evidence that he's not allowed to comment on.

Cummings said Stephens' ruling would not further his office's investigation into Jason Young because it was based largely on police statements, which the District Attorney's Office has already reviewed. He also declined to comment on when or whether charges in Michelle Young's murder would be forthcoming.



Interesting.

[Kat4Eagles]

Kat,

I know that you and I are on opposing ends of the "Who Killed Michelle & Rylan" mystery. Having said that, I am flabbergasted that you, YOU of all people would be seduced into spreading such a vicious rumor.

Things must really be getting desperate in Brevard.

MOO

nite-to-all

I am not spreading any rumors, it was here long before I got here, and since I wasn't here, I just wanted to know the resolution, if there was one.

I don't remember seeing any links to the ring swallowing story, the car accident being a murder attempt, or the attempted drowning, but that did not stop someone from posting them here.

Or all the times we were promised an imminent arrest that did not happen.

:shrug:

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

I think you're right. So long as his minions keep defending the accusation, the attacks on Meredith will continue. His minions should just say so what and move on.

I'm not accusing anyone of wrongdoing, but I am curious why my check was returned and never deposited in Cassie's account. Did anyone else have that experience? I know of two other checks that were returned.

You sent a check to Cassie's education fund, that was very nice of you.

I hope someday there will be a NC Scholarship in Michelle Young's name.

Kat

[achristie]

LOL, people lie to the police all the time in an investigation and do not necessarily get "charged." The lie must be judged to be about a material fact in the investigation, imo. You should check out the Caylee Anthony case to see this theory in practice, they all lie in that one. IMO.

Hey, Miss Regina. I thought you would pop in eventually. I must agree with you about the lying. Makes my head spin. Nice to see you......

Aggie

[Kat4Eagles]

Thanks Barbara. From your link

Wake County Assistant District Attorney Howard Cummings said that explaining why Jason Young has not been charged would require revealing evidence that he's not allowed to comment on.

Cummings said Stephens' ruling would not further his office's investigation into Jason Young because it was based largely on police statements, which the District Attorney's Office has already reviewed. He also declined to comment on when or whether charges in Michelle Young's murder would be forthcoming.



Interesting.


Morning Lin and all..

That was an interesting choice of words.
But, we know for sure the DA has reviewed the case.
And still does not want to go forward.

Kat

[Regina.Lampert]

Hey, Miss Regina. I thought you would pop in eventually. I must agree with you about the lying. Makes my head spin. Nice to see you......

Aggie

Very nice to see you again Ms. Christie, is it my imagination or have you lost weight?

Roll over to the Caylee Anthony forum if you have the time, that case
is a doozie!

When on earth are they going to indict this guilty, guilty male?

[Regina.Lampert]

Morning Lin and all..

That was an interesting choice of words.
But, we know for sure the DA has reviewed the case.
And still does not want to go forward.

Kat

Hey you, still being frisky? Why do you think the prosecutor is procrastinating?

[Lindsey]

Morning Lin and all..

That was an interesting choice of words.
But, we know for sure the DA has reviewed the case.
And still does not want to go forward.

Kat

I agree. We know the DA has reviewed the case backwards forwards and upside down and still does not want to go forward. I sure would love to know the evidence that would have to be revealed in order to explain why Jason hasn't been charged. hmmm

[bookie]

I know CW regularly bans people, so she must regularly read here. Hopefully she will get this thread back on topic soon.

I was also under the impression that linking to another message board was a no-no, so I'm surprised that a two year old discussion from some internet message board is brought here as fact, discussed for pages, and requests for links are met with "not interested".


This thread is on topic. The case is still unsoved despite police focusing on Jason for more than 2 years and maybe that's because someone else is actually guilty.

I've stayed out of the whole "Meredith was embezzling" drama but the fact is that that was posted here by a JDI. Anyone who has posted here for any length of time knows exactly who posted it. Since that was posted the board crashed then changed hands and servers. It's not possible to post links from the discussion held here about it because those posts no longer exist BUT that doesn't mean the discussions didn't happen.

It has always been my understanding that we could post links to other boards, we just couldn't post actual posts. I didn't notice it being an issue when Scouts board is linked here so why is it an issue when it supports the story about Meredith embezzling money???

[Lindsey]

Very nice to see you again Ms. Christie, is it my imagination or have you lost weight?

Roll over to the Caylee Anthony forum if you have the time, that case
is a doozie!

When on earth are they going to indict this guilty, guilty male?

Hey Regina! Glad you dropped in.

I don't post on the Anthony forum but I've read what I can. Lordy, what a mess! Way too much going on in that one to keep up with. I wish NC had the Sunshine Law like Florida does.

[Kat4Eagles]

Hey you, still being frisky? Why do you think the prosecutor is procrastinating?


Yep, that is me, the board rebel, lol.

Good to see you, I don't know how you can follow the CA Board,

I posted there once or twice, and I couldn't find my post or keep up!!

I think there is something in this case, that while so many things point to Jason, there is something that they can not overcome..

Hard call.

Take care.
:)
Kat

[bookie]

I agree. We know the DA has reviewed the case backwards forwards and upside down and still does not want to go forward. I sure would love to know the evidence that would have to be revealed in order to explain why Jason hasn't been charged. hmmm



Something exculpatory like the police knowing he was in the hotel at a time when they needed him to be in the home?

[Kat4Eagles]

I agree. We know the DA has reviewed the case backwards forwards and upside down and still does not want to go forward. I sure would love to know the evidence that would have to be revealed in order to explain why Jason hasn't been charged. hmmm


I know, very curious!!

We have exactly 3 weeks till 2009, I would hate to see this case go into yet another year.

What in the world could it be?
Kat

[Lindsey]

Something exculpatory like the police knowing he was in the hotel at a time when they needed him to be in the home?

If it's something like that, I can see why they wouldn't want to reveal it. But they shouldn't be afraid of the truth coming out, whether it's against Jason or in his favor. I just want the TRUTH, as I think we all do.

IMO

[Kat4Eagles]

Something exculpatory like the police knowing he was in the hotel at a time when they needed him to be in the home?


Or the time of death.

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

If it's something like that, I can see why they wouldn't want to reveal it. But they shouldn't be afraid of the truth coming out, whether it's against Jason or in his favor. I just want the TRUTH, as I think we all do.

IMO


Yep, we do.....
I just don't know what it is going to take though.

Clearly, being named a slayer does not scare Jason or his attorney at all.
They must have a reason they are so confident.

Kat

[Doorbell]

Yep, we do.....
I just don't know what it is going to take though.

Clearly, being named a slayer does not scare Jason or his attorney at all.
They must have a reason they are so confident.

Kat

ARE they confident?

Or just silent...?

[Lindsey]

Yep, we do.....
I just don't know what it is going to take though.

Clearly, being named a slayer does not scare Jason or his attorney at all.
They must have a reason they are so confident.

Kat

Because the civil court decision that was handed down was default and has nothing at all to do with any criminal court action.

[bookie]

If it's something like that, I can see why they wouldn't want to reveal it. But they shouldn't be afraid of the truth coming out, whether it's against Jason or in his favor. I just want the TRUTH, as I think we all do.

IMO


I agree that they shouldn't but it's a sad fact that some DA's do. Look at how many times a prosecutor hiding exculpatory evidence has been an issue raised on appeal.

[bookie]

Or the time of death.

Kat



There is something stopping them from arresting Jason Common sense says it's something that would help Jason's defense.

[achristie]

Very nice to see you again Ms. Christie, is it my imagination or have you lost weight?

Roll over to the Caylee Anthony forum if you have the time, that case
is a doozie!

When on earth are they going to indict this guilty, guilty male?

It's interesting that you should ask about when an indictment is coming. When I read the link to ABC's article , I tried to read it as though I wasn't bogged down by rumors and all the little details from following this case on the boards for two years. Sure sounds to me that what they have is incriminating, and that all roads still lead to the husband. Maybe they are waiting to sift through the latest SW stuff ? It's still a mystery.

MOO Aggie

[JHP]

ARE they confident?

Or just silent...?

Or Stupid. everyone wants a SLAYER in their family, It's something that not too many familys have. I imagine it's good for smalltalk at holiday gatherings.

JMO

[JD1974]

Not for being gay!!! "Confused" posted that he could have been in love with Jason and murdered Michelle! You are waaaaaay to defensive! I am just trying to explain to you what occured in the inital days after Michelle's murder, not trying to fight with you.

:biggrin:


I am not trying to fight either, I just thought you meant that I was the one slandering because you quoted my post.

[JD1974]

Very Nice.

Propagate a RUMOR that by YOUR OWN ADMISSION, you were not even here for.

What's next?


MOO

Swabby


None of us were there when Michelle was murdered, so should we also stop talking about that? I WAS here when it was said and I have already stated what I seen. I can admit when it looks bad for Jason. Others seem to have a problem with making everything Jason has ever done in his life had some evil intentions. Like the picture of him and Cassidy, do you honestly think he was trying to scare her like that in front of a crowd of people while someone took pictures? Just like some concede the bad things about Jason, others really need to think about him doing normal things also.

[BSNBREVARDNC]

Something exculpatory like the police knowing he was in the hotel at a time when they needed him to be in the home?

If the cops knew "something exculpatory" like like Jason being in the hotel at the time of the murder then they would have moved on. Obviously they know differently. We have only seen stills from the security video. What does the whole tape show? Are there additional security videos from other sources?

For a cop to sign an affidavit stating that he thinks that person X is a murderer, well, he must know something that we don't.

[Lindsey]

Testing ..........

[alter ego]

Or the time of death.

Kat
TOD could have been hours after the attack. They should focus on 'time of injury'.

[achristie]

testing- no problem

[Lindsey]

I opened a temporary thread on Current Crimes board until the glitches are worked out here.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=346475

[alter ego]

If the cops knew "something exculpatory" like like Jason being in the hotel at the time of the murder then they would have moved on. Obviously they know differently. We have only seen stills from the security video. What does the whole tape show? Are there additional security videos from other sources?

For a cop to sign an affidavit stating that he thinks that person X is a murderer, well, he must know something that we don't.
Innocent people have been convicted on the same premise.

What Spivey 'thinks' means nothing in the grand scheme of things. You will notice that none of the affidavits to the SWs include this same opinion from Spivey.

What the evidence proves is all that matters. And since there hasn't been an indictment handed down, it's pretty obvious the evidence doesn't prove Jason murdered Michelle BARD.

[alter ego]

no problem here.ditto.....

[Barbara2]

Innocent people have been convicted on the same premise.

What Spivey 'thinks' means nothing in the grand scheme of things. You will notice that none of the affidavits to the SWs include this same opinion from Spivey.

What the evidence proves is all that matters. And since there hasn't been an indictment handed down, it's pretty obvious the evidence doesn't prove Jason murdered Michelle BARD.

I don't think that's obvious. If this was in a different county or state or jurisdiction, a different DA might have gone for the indictment a long time ago. The murderer may have already been tried and convicted by now. There is no way of knowing before the verdict actually comes back what the jury will decide based on the evidence. I'm sure you can think of past examples. IMO

[BSNBREVARDNC]

I had the last post before everything shut down.

I'm sorry if I broke the internet. I promise you it was not on purpose.

[BSNBREVARDNC]

I don't think that's obvious. If this was in a different county or state or jurisdiction, a different DA might have gone for the indictment a long time ago. The murderer may have already been tried and convicted by now. There is no way of knowing before the verdict actually comes back what the jury will decide based on the evidence. I'm sure you can think of past examples. IMO

I think you hit the nail on the head. A local detective told me the same thing. If Jason had brought his wife back home (Brevard) and killed her, he would already being serving time. I think the same could be said for Jackson, Haywood, or Henderson Counties. Even Buncombe County would have settled this by now.

[Lindsey]

I was successful starting a new thread on this board.

Come on over!

[kingbuff]

Another reason the police hesitate to arrest anyone in this case is because of what they don't know. If the police discarded Cassidy's supposedly bloody socks as unimportant to the investigation, perhaps they missed something important. Was that really blood on the socks? Were the footprints made from blood or from some other red substance? Were they really Casidy's prints? Of course, I don't know. On another board someone said the police didn't test the prints nor the socks. I don't know if that is true, but I have heard the police bungled the initial investigation so they are wary of what the private investigators found. Perhaps that explains the strange baseless ridicule and insults on the boards whenever the private investigators are mentioned. I've wondered about that.

[MerriMent]

LOL, people lie to the police all the time in an investigation and do not necessarily get "charged." The lie must be judged to be about a material fact in the investigation, imo. You should check out the Caylee Anthony case to see this theory in practice, they all lie in that one. IMO.

It isn't funny, imo. Inconsistent statements by Meredith Fisher were mentioned in search warrants.

I'm not aware of anyone in the Anthony case other than Casey Anthony telling lies and she has been charged with murder.

Anyone who lies to LE is going to face consequences at some point.

[alter ego]

I don't think that's obvious. If this was in a different county or state or jurisdiction, a different DA might have gone for the indictment a long time ago. The murderer may have already been tried and convicted by now. There is no way of knowing before the verdict actually comes back what the jury will decide based on the evidence. I'm sure you can think of past examples. IMOBARD is pretty universal in meaning.

I think what gets in the way is the confusion of suspicion with inference. From everything that has been released, I can see why there has been no indictment.

There certainly is reason to have suspicions that Jason killed Michelle. But suspicion won't sustain a charge let alone a conviction.

[Lindsey]

New Thread

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=346477

Please bring over any posts you want to continue discussing. Thanks!

[MerriMent]

If the cops knew "something exculpatory" like like Jason being in the hotel at the time of the murder then they would have moved on. Obviously they know differently. We have only seen stills from the security video. What does the whole tape show? Are there additional security videos from other sources?

For a cop to sign an affidavit stating that he thinks that person X is a murderer, well, he must know something that we don't.

LE said in the Nov search warrant they haven't been able to rule out JY as a "participant." There could very well be exculpatory evidence that places Jason in the hotel. A cop claimed John and Patsy Ramsey killed their child. That didn't work out so well for the cop.

[BSNBREVARDNC]

LE said in the Nov search warrant they haven't been able to rule out JY as a "participant." There could very well be exculpatory evidence that places Jason in the hotel. A cop claimed John and Patsy Ramsey killed their child. That didn't work out so well for the cop.

Lets see....Apples and oranges come to mind.

And if you are right, why doesn't Jason's big time attorney straighten this whole thing out? Why would anyone, Jason or his attorney, wait for an arrest before providing the cops with information or evidence to clear his name? Waiting makes no sense.

What Jason and his attorneys do know is what Brad Cooper and his attorneys did not. If you are guilty, keep your mouth shut. Talking will only tie you into a lie that the cops can disprove. I just wonder what the line in the sand is. It's not being labeled a slayer. Is it the first appearance? It it the trial after spending more than a year in jail? What will make Jason tell his side of the story?

[JHP]

It isn't funny, imo. Inconsistent statements by Meredith Fisher were mentioned in search warrants.

I'm not aware of anyone in the Anthony case other than Casey Anthony telling lies and she has been charged with murder.

Anyone who lies to LE is going to face consequences at some point.

Yoy aren't keeping up very well with that case if you think the only person who lied there is in jail. But there is a Caylee thread.

I believe you can have inconsistent statements to try to throw police off.
Or you could have an inconsistent statement because you were in shock and just didn't remember.

JMO

[MerriMent]

Lets see....Apples and oranges come to mind.

And if you are right, why doesn't Jason's big time attorney straighten this whole thing out? Why would anyone, Jason or his attorney, wait for an arrest before providing the cops with information or evidence to clear his name? Waiting makes no sense.

What Jason and his attorneys do know is what Brad Cooper and his attorneys did not. If you are guilty, keep your mouth shut. Talking will only tie you into a lie that the cops can disprove. I just wonder what the line in the sand is. It's not being labeled a slayer. Is it the first appearance? It it the trial after spending more than a year in jail? What will make Jason tell his side of the story?

Jason hasn't been charged. No need for his lawyer to straighten out anything at this point.

I'm pretty sure Brad Cooper's attorneys are aware about the right to silence.

[BSNBREVARDNC]

Yoy aren't keeping up very well with that case if you think the only person who lied there is in jail. But there is a Caylee thread.

I believe you can have inconsistent statements to try to throw police off.
Or you could have an inconsistent statement because you were in shock and just didn't remember.

JMO

Or were miss quoted, misunderstood and later clarified, etc. Especially when you consider what has been released and adjudicated about Jason.

[alter ego]

Lets see....Apples and oranges come to mind.

And if you are right, why doesn't Jason's big time attorney straighten this whole thing out? Why would anyone, Jason or his attorney, wait for an arrest before providing the cops with information or evidence to clear his name? Waiting makes no sense.

What Jason and his attorneys do know is what Brad Cooper and his attorneys did not. If you are guilty, keep your mouth shut. Talking will only tie you into a lie that the cops can disprove. I just wonder what the line in the sand is. It's not being labeled a slayer. Is it the first appearance? It it the trial after spending more than a year in jail? What will make Jason tell his side of the story?
Well gosh, Brad Cooper simply must be innocent cuz he fully cooperated with LE and it's said time and time again how innocent people cooperate and that if Jason was innocent he would cooperate and give a statement to LE.

oops - guess that whole 'what an innocent person would do' argument is bunk.

[kingbuff]

Well gosh, Brad Cooper simply must be innocent cuz he fully cooperated with LE and it's said time and time again how innocent people cooperate and that if Jason was innocent he would cooperate and give a statement to LE.

oops - guess that whole 'what an innocent person would do' argument is bunk.

Sure it's bunk. The Florida girl could tell you what cooperation gets you. The cops don't keep secrets very well. She should have keep her mouth shut. What did her cooperation get her?

[Jester]

Sure it's bunk. The Florida girl could tell you what cooperation gets you. The cops don't keep secrets very well. She should have keep her mouth shut. What did her cooperation get her?


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