Michelle Young - Dec. 1 thru 4

[Cardinal]

I dunno. They still haven't received his Yahoo! acct info and everything revealed in the warrants has been known to LE for some time and still the case has not been turned over to the DA for an indictment. Just more search warrants issued.

:shrug:

I love all the new smilies too :w00t:

I can't explain it, AE. I just have this feeling that something's about to break. I could be wrong - wouldn't be the first time. :biggrin:

[Cardinal]

JHP and Tizzer -

I really have doubts that Smith is still representing Jason. And I really think that all of this activity is bringing an indictment closer. I truly hope so, anyway.

Goodnight - I really like this one! :sleep:

[alter ego]

I can't explain it, AE. I just have this feeling that something's about to break. I could be wrong - wouldn't be the first time. :biggrin:
I hope you are right, there are so many unanswered questions.

And I have a feeling there will be even more questions after the SW is unsealed tomorrow.

[Barbara2]

I don't believe tomorrow's warrant will reveal anything of significance. I am curious why it was sealed for so long though. There must be someone or something that the investigators did not want known publically. IMO I think the recent warrants that were served and released immediately have been more revealing than what we might see tomorrow.

[JD1974]

Either party can demand a jury trial in a civil action in NC. If no demand is made by either party, then a trial by jury is waived.



I still think Jason is doing the smartest thing possible. Jason has custody of Cassidy and even if he were to lose custody his sister would then retain custody per Michelle's wishes, the argument that Michlle chose her bfore Jason killed Michelle does't negate Michelle's will because Heather didn't kill Michelle IMO she would have to be proven unfit. So now back to the LI policy since Jason has full custody of Cassidy he has in effect gained the LI policy without openng his mouth.

Even if Linda is the one who doles out the money to Cassidy, you wouldn't believe what falls under the needs category of LI polices and trust funds. Jason could claim money from Michelle's LI policy for living expenses (to keep Cassidy in the the lifesstyle she would be accustomed to if Michelle were alive) I honestly think this is brilliant. If he killed her he has not only so far gotten away with it but he will also get the LI policy without harming himself in a deposition.

I am in no way putting down Lindaa Fisher but if I were her I would rethink the WD suit or at least ask for an extension.

[5swab5]

I don't believe tomorrow's warrant will reveal anything of significance. I am curious why it was sealed for so long though. There must be someone or something that the investigators did not want known publically. IMO I think the recent warrants that were served and released immediately have been more revealing than what we might see tomorrow.

I have to believe that tomorrow's SW will be even more revealing than any of the others, otherwise...why seal it for so long?

JY & OJ on the ropes at the same time. Happy Day!

MOO

[JD1974]

The ruling in the Peterson West WD suit was an eyepopper, that's for sure.

In this case Linda does not have a criminal conviction to rely upon for proof of her complaint. Still wondering what she is going to use to convince a judge her allegations are factual.



Honestly I think all WD suits should have to have a new trial I don't think that because someone is convicted by a jury that should be an automatic award for the families. The only thing I regret about that feeling is the family has to go through another trial, which is unfair all around.

[5swab5]

Honestly I think all WD suits should have to have a new trial I don't think that because someone is convicted by a jury that should be an automatic award for the families. The only thing I regret about that feeling is the family has to go through another trial, which is unfair all around.


I understand what you are saying, and that may very well be why courts routinely go ahead and award the civil judgments after criminal trials.

Like you say, why burden the victim's family or that State for that matter, with another trial...that requires even a lower standard of proof?

MOO

[Leanne Weich]

I wonder if JY being a free man for 25 months has embolden other men to wipe out their wives in NC. Seems like an inordinately large number of spousal murders and/or attempts. Here's another one:

http://www.wral.com/golo/page/1896337/?id=4079785 :cursing:

[jerry50]

I dunno. They still haven't received his Yahoo! acct info and everything revealed in the warrants has been known to LE for some time and still the case has not been turned over to the DA for an indictment. Just more search warrants issued.

:shrug:

I love all the new smilies too :w00t:

I wonder if this new warrant for the emails may be intended to solidify charges of accessories after the fact for friends or family members. They may have thought yahoo email addresses were unobtainable by LE.

[JD1974]

I understand what you are saying, and that may very well be why courts routinely go ahead and award the civil judgments after criminal trials.

Like you say, why burden the victim's family or that State for that matter, with another trial...that requires even a lower standard of proof?

MOO

I am not talking about Jason when I say this, I am just speaking in gereal terms but say someone did get convicted, maybe use Cynthia Sommer for comparison. Cynthia is convicted and then goes through a wrongful deal suit, the judge doesn't hear any evidence and just awards the family whatever the award happens to be. Now if that judge would of asked for evidence it may have came out she didn't kill Todd, also now whoever filed the WD suit also has the money that was left to her by Todd to take care of the children. That is the only reason that I feel an actual trial should be warranted, for the just in case scenarios. This example is of course cannot be correct because they did find the evidence that Todd didn't die of arsenic, but just for arguments sake say they never found that evidence. So now Cynthia and her children are once again victims.

As I said though the hard part is making the family go through it again but what is more unfair, Cynthia sitting in jail for a crime she didn't commit or Todd's family having to go through another trial where there wasn't an actual murder committed.


Sorry i know the Cynthia case is an easy one to use an example because that is basically what happened just minus the WD suit. It is just the kind of thing that makes me think.

BTW where did all the posts go, there were 17 pages until I refereshed.

[JD1974]

I wonder if this new warrant for the emails may be intended to solidify charges of accessories after the fact for friends or family members. They may have thought yahoo email addresses were unobtainable by LE.


Honestly if there is more damaging info in those Sw's the prosecutor should be voted out of office for not taking this to a GJ and get an indictment, the only thing they lack in the this case is a video tape of Jaosn committing the murder. IF everything stated in the previous SW's are tur. For the life of me I cannot see what they are lacking, unless they found the items they were looking for and somehow ruled those items out?

[5swab5]

I wonder if JY being a free man for 25 months has embolden other men to wipe out their wives in NC. Seems like an inordinately large number of spousal murders and/or attempts. Here's another one:

http://www.wral.com/golo/page/1896337/?id=4079785 :cursing:


Don't know about yet to come spouse murderers, but it is VERY apparent from Jason's emails with Kim, that the fact that Raven Aboroa, "lost" his wife, lawyered up, moved away with his child and remains free was on his mind.

Come to think of it...Mark Hacking was in the process of moving Lori here, before he just couldn't wait to get here.

MOO

[5swab5]

I am not talking about Jason when I say this, I am just speaking in gereal terms but say someone did get convicted, maybe use Cynthia Sommer for comparison. Cynthia is convicted and then goes through a wrongful deal suit, the judge doesn't hear any evidence and just awards the family whatever the award happens to be. Now if that judge would of asked for evidence it may have came out she didn't kill Todd, also now whoever filed the WD suit also has the money that was left to her by Todd to take care of the children. That is the only reason that I feel an actual trial should be warranted, for the just in case scenarios. This example is of course cannot be correct because they did find the evidence that Todd didn't die of arsenic, but just for arguments sake say they never found that evidence. So now Cynthia and her children are once again victims.

As I said though the hard part is making the family go through it again but what is more unfair, Cynthia sitting in jail for a crime she didn't commit or Todd's family having to go through another trial where there wasn't an actual murder committed.


Sorry i know the Cynthia case is an easy one to use an example because that is basically what happened just minus the WD suit. It is just the kind of thing that makes me think.

BTW where did all the posts go, there were 17 pages until I refereshed.

Can't comment on that case, as I did not follow it that much. I do have my opinions about it, but it has nothing to do with this one.

IMO, the total disregard for justice on the part of Wake County's DA resulted in LF having to put the cart before the horse. Colin is either an idiot, unable to delegate authority, jaded or CHICKEN! Any one of which should result in his immediate removal from office! JMO, MOO, IMO.

As for the posts? LOL Don't feel alone, beam in Twilight Zone music.

MOO

[Kat4Eagles]

Honestly if there is more damaging info in those Sw's the prosecutor should be voted out of office for not taking this to a GJ and get an indictment, the only thing they lack in the this case is a video tape of Jaosn committing the murder. IF everything stated in the previous SW's are tur. For the life of me I cannot see what they are lacking, unless they found the items they were looking for and somehow ruled those items out?


I guess I don't share the confidence in thinking this case is about to

wrap up, cause if they are just now (25 Months Later) looking for a

yahoo account that Jason used, wow.


That is one of the first things that could and should have been easily found.

:no:

Yahoo?

Give me a break.

:rolleyes:

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

I think some people were booted along with their posts.



I missed it.

I love all the new icons, though.

But, I didn't get the banging head on keyboard, or a swoosh one.

:blink:

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/document/4076660/

(probable cause is a cut&paste of the search warrant for Jason's old work laptop from last month)



Thank you, I just find this hard to get excited about.

Hope tomorrow's s.w is a little more intriguing.

:sleep:
:closedeyes:

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Can't comment on that case, as I did not follow it that much. I do have my opinions about it, but it has nothing to do with this one.

IMO, the total disregard for justice on the part of Wake County's DA resulted in LF having to put the cart before the horse. Colin is either an idiot, unable to delegate authority, jaded or CHICKEN! Any one of which should result in his immediate removal from office! JMO, MOO, IMO.

As for the posts? LOL Don't feel alone, beam in Twilight Zone music.

MOO


But, Swabb, "Colin", as you call him, just might not have all that to work with.

Although, now you can throw a Yahoo account in.

:rolleyes:

Kat

[MerriMent]

I guess I don't share the confidence in thinking this case is about to

wrap up, cause if they are just now (25 Months Later) looking for a

yahoo account that Jason used, wow.


That is one of the first things that could and should have been easily found.

:no:

Yahoo?

Give me a break.

:rolleyes:

Kat

I think they got a search warrant because they already know what they will find and intend to use it at trial. Jason isn't talking to LE but nothing prevents his family or attorney from alerting LE about suspicious emails that have been sent TO Jason. LE would have to verify them.

[Kat4Eagles]

I think they got a search warrant because they already know what they will find and intend to use it at trial. Jason isn't talking to LE but nothing prevents his family or attorney from alerting LE about suspicious emails that have been sent TO Jason. LE would have to verify them.


I don't know, and then we wonder why this is taking so long.

Every kind of email account should have been looked at or into to see if
one existed.

You think someone sent something to Jason that they are afraid of?

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

First person here in the am, will you please start a new thread so

we can discuss the new s/w as soon as it becomes available.

Thank you.!!!

Kat