Michelle Young Oct 16th [Archive] - In Session Message Boards

Wyn

10-16-2008, 10:57 PM

Recap:

Jason could have told LE if Michelle routinely left the lights on outside when he was out of town. He could have walked through the home and told LE if anything was moved, missing, not normal. He could have told LE if Michelle's attire was typical for sleeping. He could have done all of this with his attorney present to stop him from saying anything incriminating. If he truly loved Michelle, why wouldn't he want to help LE find the person who brutally beat her to death and also murdered his unborn son?

Why has Jason not bothered to put a headstone on Michelle's grave after two years?

Where is the shirt? Have you asked Jason what he did with it since LE wants to know? If he has a reasonable explanation it could help prove that he didn't murder Michelle.

Why did you say that Michelle and Jason had a "hefty" savings account and could have afforded to fix both the heat pump and the garage door, and then later say that LE confiscated a "hefty" check so that those items couldn't be fixed and that LE didn't care?

Why do you keep making stuff up and throwing it out to see what sticks? Do you think in the end, it's really going to make a difference?

Did you know the DA in Wake County asks the victim's family (which would be the Fishers in this case ) whether they want the prosecution to seek the death penalty or a life sentence? Are you satisfied that you and your SIL have libeled the victim's family enough so that when the time comes and they are made aware of the extent, it may influence their decision?

And another question that you probably won't bother to answer either, where will Jason be celebrating Michelle's murder this year? Last year Puerto Rico, this year?

Wyn

10-16-2008, 11:02 PM

When did Jason start talking to Meredith? Has he explained to her where the shirt is now? Where he "lost" it? Has it told her why he hasn't bothered to put a headstone on his wife's grave after two years? Did he tell her where he's going to celebrate, um, memoralize Michelle's memory this year?

snow_ball

10-16-2008, 11:05 PM

Caterwaulers can pose for the media.

He prefers sincerity, dignity, and privacy.

Kingcole

You will be choking on the words above when JY is arrested.
He may be free now but it won't be forever .

Wyn

10-16-2008, 11:06 PM

Sincerity equals "not talking to avoid incriminating himself".

Dignity equals leaving the country so "no one can see him having a good time celebrating on the anniversary of Michelle's death".

Privacy equals "hiding out in Brevard" where his family can protect him from people who would question him about the murder.

snow_ball

10-16-2008, 11:08 PM

Wyn

10-17-2008, 09:08 AM

WYN ASKED:
Did you know the DA in Wake County asks the victim's family (which would be the Fishers in this case ) whether they want the prosecution to seek the death penalty or a life sentence? Are you satisfied that you and your SIL have libeled the victim's family enough so that when the time comes and they are made aware of the extent, it may influence their decision?
==========

Sure I know that. I've seen it on tv. Jason's not
concerned about it. It doesn't apply to him.

But others should be aware that when the mountain folks are asked that question, they will show no mercy.

You should know also that this has nothing to do with you
and other posters and message board comments. It's all
about justice for Michelle.

That's the only thing that will influence their decision.

==Kingcole

The only reason that it doesn't apply to Jason at this point is because he hasn't been arrested and tried.

I doubt very seriously that you will get to weigh in on the discussion so there goes that "moutain folks" comment you keep making. Unless in the meantime Jason decides to murder someone else up in your "neck of the woods". And I doubt anyone will still ask for your opinion.

It does have something to do with some message board posters. Who do you think is going to make sure the Fishers are aware of what's been going on when the time comes? Open your eyes.

Yes Justice for Michelle is why some of us are here. And that is why it does matter.

I see you didn't bother to answer any of the other questions. Guess most of the stuff was more "red herring" for your fictionalized version of what really happened because you don't have any anwers. You still really know nothing. But your response is quite typical.

Wyn

10-17-2008, 09:11 AM

When did he stop talking to Meredith?
I have no idea what he has told her.

==Kingcole

My guess would be shortly after he left her home and realized everyone knew he was the one who murdered Michelle. Of course you have no idea what he has told her. He doesn't actually tell YOU anything. You're doing a great job of constantly proving that. Thanks.

annalyzer

10-17-2008, 09:23 AM

You and your SIL failed to intimidate the posters who think Jason is guilty. Guess that didn't work to well for you now did it? Look, we're still here. And will be until there is Justice for Michelle.

No one is going to be here to discuss anything if they don't stop their childish bickering.

Wyn

10-17-2008, 09:29 AM

Why do you bother reading and responding
to my nothing, zip, nada?

==Kingcole

Good point. Here's a clue.

"Evil triumphs when good men do nothing." --Edmund Burke

You mountain folks planned anything to remember Michelle on the second anniversary of her murder? Only seventeen days. I reckon you better get crackin if you haven't. Or is Jason planning on leaving the country again for fun in the sun?

It's going to be interesting when Jason has to one day explain to Cassidy why no one bothered to remember her mother. Why they are trying to wipe out Cassidy's memory of her mother and her mother's entire family. :shrug:

annalyzer

10-17-2008, 09:46 AM

:no:

Funny, I don't see any bickering. Are you today's moderator?

Perfect example. Wagging your finger and asking if I'm the moderator. Childish and bickering.

Wyn

10-17-2008, 10:40 AM

[QUOTE=TIAZ;12300916]

You put that this post was original Kat's and you know very good and well it wasn't. The JDI's just can't play fair.

10-17-2008, 08:59 AM
TIAZ
Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 2,559

[quote=Wyn;12300789]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kat4Eagles

Gee Kat, I'm pretty sure you posted you weren't the moderator but here you go again. Sounds like you'd like an excuse to close down the thread. Where will old King Cole go then?

Hopefully the same rule applies when Kat starts posting about why the Fisher's haven't gone for custody of Cassidy like Nancy Cooper's Family. She has been going on about that for weeks and I have not seen any wagging fingers telling HER to stay on topic.
__________________

Was this suppose to be a joke post? Look at the mess you posted above. Because it looks like one poster made a simple quote error and then you decided to compound it. It looks like the post above was made by Kat, you managed to throw my name in the middle of Kat's info, and the person who made part of the post isn't even identified. "Play fair?" :shrug:

I suggest you correct MY quote not to include someone else's quote being attributed to me asap. Thanks.

HI_CYCLE

10-17-2008, 10:47 AM

No one is going to be here to discuss anything if they don't stop their childish bickering.I agree. I have not posted for a couple of days because if the JDI continues to make this board all about KC, CW is going to close it and prolly do a lot of banning.
Can E1 get back on the real topic of Michelle Young`s murder?
Thank You

Wyn

10-17-2008, 10:53 AM

I agree. I have not posted for a couple of days because if the JDI continues to make this board all about KC, CW is going to close it and prolly do a lot of banning.
Can E1 get back on the real topic of Michelle Young`s murder?
Thank You

Step back and take a good unbiased look at this board and what KC posts. It IS all about Michelle Young's murder and his attempts to distract from any focus on Jason. KC isn't going to get a free ride on throwing crap out and then moving on without some discussion or explanations.

IF a JDI had posted that Michelle and Jason had a "hefty savings account" and could easily afford to fix the heat pump and broken garage door in one post, and later in another, berated the "cops" for taking a "hefty check" from Jason so that he couldn't afford to fix the heat pump and the garage door, the JII's would have been harping on it for weeks. But it's okay because he's Jason's bud, right?

Wyn

10-17-2008, 11:07 AM

ITA!

Lets let CW do her job and ignore those "playing" moderator.

I found the comments posted yesterday VERY interesting!!!

"A husband who loves his wife and honors her as the mother of his children would go to a memorial service. Would call her family," said Smith. "To fail to do so is weird and bizarre."

http://wake.mync.com/site/Wake/news/...r-case-begins/

I wonder what advice Jason was given??

"Don't talk", according to his mother's phone call on NCWanted. That wouldn't have prevented them from doing something with their family in friends in Brevard to help Cassidy remember and honor her mother's memory.

HI_CYCLE

10-17-2008, 11:17 AM

ITA!

Lets let CW do her job and ignore those "playing" moderator.

I found the comments posted yesterday VERY interesting!!!

"A husband who loves his wife and honors her as the mother of his children would go to a memorial service. Would call her family," said Smith. "To fail to do so is weird and bizarre."

http://wake.mync.com/site/Wake/news/...r-case-begins/

I wonder what advice Jason was given??Tiaz, your link takes me to a page with links unrelated to your quote.:shrug: Could you post a better link or let me know where on the page your quote is. TIA

Wyn

10-17-2008, 11:19 AM

Now I wonder if thats what Jason was REALLY told. Doesn't sound very likely in light of these new comments.

No one is required to do what their attorney suggests. It is possible that Smith wanted Jason to sit down with LE and answer questions. If Jason knew he couldn't answer them, why even try? Better to just say the attorney said not to talk and then clam up. Certainly can't incriminate himself that way and who's to know the difference? No one from the attorney's office is going to talk to Jason's family or friends without his permission so they'd never know the truth.

Wyn

10-17-2008, 11:25 AM

In case Tiaz is gone for awhile, if you go to their link, pick Wake County. Then just click on Cary.

Barbara2

10-17-2008, 11:33 AM

Tiaz, your link takes me to a page with links unrelated to your quote.:shrug: Could you post a better link or let me know where on the page your quote is. TIA

Here's the link I found directly to the article:

http://cary.mync.com/site/cary/news/story/11171

The article is long and the quote is almost at the bottom. You will get to it quicker if you scroll all the way to the bottom and then back up.

HI_CYCLE

10-17-2008, 11:55 AM

Here's the link I found directly to the article:

http://cary.mync.com/site/cary/news/story/11171

The article is long and the quote is almost at the bottom. You will get to it quicker if you scroll all the way to the bottom and then back up.TY Barbara, the other link took me to it. I read it. I am trying to stay away from this case. It is going to get really dirty if LE does not find and arrest her murderer. MOO

5swab5

10-17-2008, 01:03 PM

Wait a minute. Did Smith say 'private' memorial service where
media and ghouls and caterwaulers are not present?

Are some posters feeling left out because they were not invited
to a private memorial service that was not advertised.... a
private service that really was to honor Michelle with no cameras,
no media, no weird and bizarre mourners?

(snipped)

==Kingcole

Tossing their wedding rings into a River doesn't count.

MOO

Swabby

HI_CYCLE

10-17-2008, 02:09 PM

I thought the same thing. A Power happy judge. Do you think this is why LE didn't acknowledge a witness to her jogging?I still think that at least 3 or 4 of these murders could be connected and LE does NOT want to panic the good citizens of Wake County. This judge is way out of line. IMO

5swab5

10-17-2008, 02:16 PM

Spending a relaxing week where they honeymooned does. (snipped).

No it doesn't, it was just another callous slap in the face to the ones that really loved Michelle.

That very weekend there was a "Real" Memorial. The loving husband should have been there and above all Cassidy should have been there. All these attempts at completely erasing Michelle's memory and family are going to backfire.

In what world, does a husband waste money on a trip to Puerto Rico before placing a monument on his murdered wife and child's grave?

MOO

Swabby

annalyzer

10-17-2008, 03:22 PM

Not a good example at all.

Must have been since that post is no longer here.

JD1974

10-17-2008, 03:29 PM

I guess I still don't understand why it looks suspicious if someone doesn't want their whole life splashed in some newspaper or the evening news? I would not want news cameras watching my every move, whether I had done something or not. Maybe I am just a private person..anyway, I see other things in this case that Jason should be worried about if true.

BiggerRedDog

10-17-2008, 03:47 PM

That's not a question the DA asks the family ahead of an arrest. I don't get how Jason has libeled the Fishers though. When and where did he ever speak publicly? :confused:
Wyn (not kingcole) in her recap on page 1, posed this question. Jason is not referred to in this question. Maybe that's where your confusion comes from. :confused:

Wyn

10-17-2008, 04:32 PM

No it doesn't, it was just another callous slap in the face to the ones that really loved Michelle.

That very weekend there was a "Real" Memorial. The loving husband should have been there and above all Cassidy should have been there. All these attempts at completely erasing Michelle's memory and family are going to backfire.

In what world, does a husband waste money on a trip to Puerto Rico before placing a monument on his murdered wife and child's grave?

MOO

Swabby

And as for "wasn't invited crowd", Jason is capable of picking up a phone and finding out what the deal is. Especially since the victim's family are unable to contact him at his mothers. Anyone find it interesting she changed her phone number to an unlisted number and failed to give it to Cassidy's OTHER grandmother?

5swab5

10-17-2008, 05:08 PM

And as for "wasn't invited crowd", Jason is capable of picking up a phone and finding out what the deal is. Especially since the victim's family are unable to contact him at his mothers. Anyone find it interesting she changed her phone number to an unlisted number and failed to give it to Cassidy's OTHER grandmother?

I hadn't heard that, but I am not surprised. Was this before Linda was forced to drop in @ Cassidy's Day Care in order to she her or since then?

I have always thought that Jason would be in much better shape, if he had hired a PR guy, instead of a Lawyer. How much could it cost, for a lawyer to say "SHUT UP"?

In the meantime, by allowing his relatives and friends to do his bidding, they have backed him into a corner at every chance and posted confirmations throughout Cyberspace what a lousy human being Jason is.
No one will ever forget hearing Pat screech on the phone to NCW, and the feeble teacher's attempts at covering for Jason have only given out more rope. With friend's like that, who needs enemies?:shrug:

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

10-17-2008, 06:09 PM

(snipped) You all portray Ms. Linda Fisher to be rather unstable, but then you seem willing to also throw Michelle under your bus.

(snipped)

I have never said ONE bad word about Linda or Michelle!

Michelle and Linda have been forced into situations, where they are at the mercy of Jason Lynn Young. Michelle, in the narrow confines of her bedroom that fateful night and Linda in the aftermath of the murders, with Jason holding Cassidy hostage. They are victims, I do not disparage victims!

MOO

Swabby

Wyn

10-17-2008, 06:22 PM

I have never said ONE bad word about Linda or Michelle!

Michelle and Linda have been forced into situations, where they are at the mercy of Jason Lynn Young. Michelle, in the narrow confines of her bedroom that fateful night and Linda in the aftermath of the murders, with Jason holding Cassidy hostage. They are victims, I do not disparage victims!

MOO

Swabby

I see they're making up rumors about you again, Swabby. :biggrin: The only posters on this board who have portrayed Linda Fisher as anything other than the class act that she is, unlike the Young clan, are Jason's die hard fans. They might want to rethink the road they keep trying to travel down. Seriously, could you imagine anything worse than that NCWanted stunt Pat Young tried? It only made her son look more guilty.

5swab5

10-17-2008, 06:43 PM

I see they're making up rumors about you again, Swabby. :biggrin: The only posters on this board who have portrayed Linda Fisher as anything other than the class act that she is, unlike the Young clan, are Jason's die hard fans. They might want to rethink the road they keep trying to travel down. Seriously, could you imagine anything worse than that NCWanted stunt Pat Young tried? It only made her son look more guilty.

I'm not surprised. When you exists in a nebula where Jason is the paradigm of everything good and just in the world, you don't have much to work with.:biggrin:

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

10-17-2008, 07:01 PM

While you haven't said any bad 'words' about Linda Fisher, you and a few others seem to be using the forum to wage some sort of ugly vendetta on Linda Fisher's behalf not only against Jason Young but also his mother. That's my perception of your continuing tirades. Do you honestly believe your actions help the situation? Serious question.

That's rich coming from you. Twist and shout all you want.

From DAY ONE, I have never turned a deaf ear or a blind eye to Jason's actions or behavior.

You, on the other hand have tried time and time again to turn the conversation to Meredith or Linda, as having murdered Michelle & Rylan.

As for a vendetta against Jason? Jason needs to pay for his actions, that is called JUSTICE! As for Pat and the rest of his enablers, I can only HOPE that the Court System eventually metes out what it deems fair in those situations as well.

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

10-17-2008, 07:11 PM

(snipped) 'Unstable'? Is that how you think Linda is portrayed
by some of these girls? (snipped)

==Kingcole

The only "UNSTABLE" displays I have seen since this whole thing started were Pat Young SCREECHING on the phone with NCW, and some old wannabe friend of Jason's..just rambling along and telling tales out of school ALL over the Internet. He might as well get the grave digging job, for all the good he has done Jason.

MOO

Swabby

Kat4Eagles

10-17-2008, 07:45 PM

The only "UNSTABLE" displays I have seen since this whole thing started were Pat Young SCREECHING on the phone with NCW, and some old wannabe friend of Jason's..just rambling along and telling tales out of school ALL over the Internet. He might as well get the grave digging job, for all the good he has done Jason.

MOO

Swabby

I listened to the NCW tape, and I did not hear anyone screech.

I heard someone defending their son and asking that he not
be called a suspect, is that screeching?

We are getting there, what is it, a little over 2 weeks left?

I am curious to see if this arrest will be made or any suit will be filed.

I sure would like to know how someone can file a suit against
someone if charges have not been brought against them....

I guess we will get to see.
:shrug:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-17-2008, 07:49 PM

I reckon that means you disagree...pugnaciously. Okay.
Still, I think the girls should be more careful about
embarrassing others whom they claim to speak for.

==Kingcole

I coudn't agree more.

I couldn't or wouldn't be able to speak for anyone in this case.

I think what happens to some people when they start living and breathing a case, they begin to identify themselves with the victim
and their family, and become way too involved.

That would be almost like saying they have no faith in LE and what they are doing.

Scary.
Very scary.

JMO

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-17-2008, 07:54 PM

I see they're making up rumors about you again, Swabby. :biggrin: The only posters on this board who have portrayed Linda Fisher as anything other than the class act that she is, unlike the Young clan, are Jason's die hard fans. They might want to rethink the road they keep trying to travel down. Seriously, could you imagine anything worse than that NCWanted stunt Pat Young tried? It only made her son look more guilty.

<<~~~~ That would be a proud Jason diehard fan.

Thanxxxx.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-17-2008, 08:15 PM

You mean like when you call Jason, "Jay", and refuse to call Cassidy by her given name (which has been published in numerous papers)? Like that kind of insertion into a case? You are one of the worst offenders. Or do you mean "no faith in LE" by how you constantly harp on how long it is taking for them to solve this case? The countdowns? The insinuation that it will become a "cold" case at the 2 year mark? That kind of "no faith in LE"? :rolleyes:

JUSTICE FOR MICHELLE AND RYLAN!

Yep., kinda!!

I kind of think that Michelle would hate seeing her child's name referred to on a public Message Board ..

We are not the media.

And, while I am sure L E is doing a good job, I am referring to the insiders who have pushed the case to the limits to be solved, instead of sitting back and letting L E do it.

2 years IS a long time in a case like this, where the body is found almost immediately, kind of makes you wonder what the heck is kinda going on!!

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-17-2008, 08:24 PM

YOU really are a piece of work. YOU have NO right to speak for Linda! Any grandmother that would keep the other grandmother from seeing their grandchild deserves EVERYONE'S disparaging comments. Any Grandmother that would return presents or change their phone number to keep the other grandmother at bay, deserves anything and EVERYTHING that I am allowed to post on this forum AND MORE!!

Pat and Jason bear the responsibility for the way that they have treated Linda and denied Cassidy's best interests. I cannot wait for the Courts to right this terrible injustice!

MOO

Swabby

But, that's the point.

The Fishers should not have had to wait for 2 years, to do what the Cooper family did in days.

And, since we do not know the relationship between the Youngs and the Fishers before the murder, it is kind of hard to say or judge anyone,

C needed to be protected, her Dad is her protector, if,someone does not like the law, then someone needs to make it different, or do something about it.

There is no confirmation any presents were returned, it is all more stuff to get people to hate Jason and his family.

It goes in the same file with all the other unfounded accusations.

Posting it does not make it true.

Hope this helps.

Kat

5swab5

10-17-2008, 08:47 PM

(snipped so no one has to see the lies again)
==Kingcole

I am not screeching for Linda, I am screeching AGAINST Pat YOUNG!

Pat and Jason Lynn YOUNG are denying Cassidy contact with her maternal side of the family. Twist and Shout all you want.

Thankfully, other posters here are literate.

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

10-17-2008, 09:02 PM

"Tirade"? I see you still have a problem with definitions.
Been quite a while since I've tiraded. I'm more into 'kindly advice'.

==Kingcole

Unless you were extolling the virtues (HA) of Pat or making excuses for Jason.

There has never been anything kindly in any of your posts.

They are riddled with sarcasm, arrogance and deprecation.

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

10-18-2008, 12:30 AM

(snip)

Who released the info? Who embarrassed Linda and her family
by telling the world she had to sneak into the daycare to spend
time with her grandchild?

(snip)

==Kingcole

I don't know how the rest of the free world found out, but I learned it from YOU!

Complete with : "the breach has been sealed and Linda will NEVER get in there again".

MOO

Swabby

Done with Jason's grave yet, or do you need me to drag out some more of my notes?

5swab5

10-18-2008, 12:47 AM

There is an expression, "You are known by the company you keep," so yes, I think posters who claim they are speaking to and for her do reflect poorly on Linda Fisher. I've noticed my question about the 'wedding rings being thrown in a river' hasn't been answered. Seems to be a pattern established.

Might I suggest putting down the Kool-Aid?

Show ONE post where someone has claimed to "speak" for LINDA or BACK OFF!

I am sick and tired of KC popping in here...Twisting and Shouting and watching the lemmings fall in line.

Learn to think for yourselves ladies! 'Dem mountain men have a permanent way of dealing with things if you ever decide to cross them.

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

10-18-2008, 01:00 AM

I did post the other day that someone 'just like you' is involved but unless you are Meredith or Linda, I've never speculated they were involved. The more you protest neither was involved, the more I'll consider them suspect. And what about those wedding rings?

No, actually you did much more than that. And in a subtler way, you are trying to continue that line of thinking today.

I am NOT the topic here and personally I am tired of it. KC has been on me from early this afternoon, calling me Linda's spokesperson.

The implications are awkward and I resent them.

Can you please get back to discussing Michelle Young's murder and leave In Session posters OUT of the fray? I am sure ALL the readers would appreciate it.

Thanxx

Swabby

5swab5

10-18-2008, 01:06 AM

I'm surprised Linda hasn't already done that. It's a shame because these postings could be held at a later date against Linda and if her goal is to see her grandchild, it's not helping portray her as a person acting in the child's best interest. By then, posters will be long gone from this case and busily inserting themselves into another one.

Yet Pat isolating Cassidy from Linda will play well in front of a jury?

RiiiigHT!

Dream ON!

MOO

Swabby

The entire Internet has been watching this saga go down. We know who's who in the zoo. AND we took screen shots, OOPS

5swab5

10-18-2008, 01:13 AM

Several of you have implied you are speaking directly with Linda Fisher. I don't know how you would know gifts were returned or she doesn't have Mrs. Young's phone number or she sneaked into daycare if Ms. Fisher isn't your source. As long as you continue to post these claims as fact, I'll discuss.

Now, about those wedding rings you claim were tossed in the river. Why are police still looking for them if you know they were tossed in the river?

You really do need to start reading ALL the posts, not just hopping on mine. Things would be SO much clearer for you.

For starters, how about showing ONE post, where I said that I speak for Linda? Otherwise BACK OFF of me. (still relying on that I have never reported anyone...you CAN be first...keep pushing)

Thanxxx

Swabby

THE source, is the same gravedigger that he has always been....KC.;)

5swab5

10-18-2008, 01:15 AM

No surprise the man behind the curtain is taking screen shots. He also thinks he's a wizard. :rolleyes:

HUH?

TIA

Swabby

5swab5

10-18-2008, 01:18 AM

LOL!

I am such an idiot. I just figured it out. All this diversion all day long, has been an attempt to keep the quotes from Jason's law firm AND the good Judge in the NC custody case OFF of the board.

BRB

I'm sure I can find them.;)

VERY bad news for Jason!

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

10-18-2008, 01:43 AM

(snip) You posted wedding rings were thrown in the river. Why do you refuse to elaborate?

Like I said...You really do need to start reading ALL the posts, not just hopping on mine. Things would be SO much clearer for you.

MOO
Swabby

5swab5

10-18-2008, 01:51 AM

OH, and here is the Lawyer from Jason's Law Firm being quoted again.

Hey Jason, the light is at the end of the tunnel...train that it is!:biggrin:

Stubbs and attorney Wade Smith argued they have "substantial evidence" that he did kill his wife and that he will be charged with murder.

"The (Wake County District Attorney) Colon Willoughby train is coming," Smith said. "It may not be next year. It could be two years. But it's coming."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3750528/

5swab5

10-18-2008, 02:06 AM

Saving the best for last! We have a "street savvy", no-nonsense judge presiding over EXACTLY what the Young family will be up against.

During a motions hearing last month, Sasser said that if no one were charged in murder case prior to her ruling, she would have to consider the allegations in her decision, a critical factor in deciding whether the children would be safe.

"The elephant that sits in the room is that if there is evidence that Mr. Cooper is in any way responsible for his wife's death, that's certainly relevant in the custody case," she has said.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3750528/

I like this judge and I think she is doing the correct thing.
For three years before being a judge, Sasser represented abused and neglected children in court.

We have a murdered wife and once again (sigh) an uncooperative husband.

I believe that it is the best interest of a child for the State to err on the side of caution.

I PRAY every night that Jason gets to face her!

JUSTICE for Michelle, Rylan, Cassidy, Linda, Meredith & the rest of their family!

MOO

Swabby

sonya

10-18-2008, 08:00 AM

<<~~~~ That would be a proud Jason diehard fan.

Thanxxxx.

Kat

Proud of what exactly ? That he has done nothing, not even an attempt at showing any shock, anger at the vicious murder of his own CHILD and wife ? Nothing, refused to talk to the cops, kept his daughter from a grandmother she had spent most of her life with and topped it off with a tacky internet dating ad (picture of daughter included) ??? What exactly IS a proud Jason diehard fan so proud of ? hammer

5swab5

10-18-2008, 08:08 AM

Proud of what exactly ? That he has done nothing, not even an attempt at showing any shock, anger at the vicious murder of his own CHILD and wife ? Nothing, refused to talk to the cops, kept his daughter from a grandmother she had spent most of her life with and topped it off with a tacky internet dating ad (picture of daughter included) ??? What exactly IS a proud Jason diehard fan so proud of ? hammer

The indifference boggles the mind, doesn't it?

Guess it does take all kinds. Funny where some people risk their blind faith and place their allegiance.:shrug:

MOO

Swabby

sonya

10-18-2008, 08:10 AM

snipped from kat4eagles post:
"And, while I am sure L E is doing a good job, I am referring to the insiders who have pushed the case to the limits to be solved, instead of sitting back and letting L E do it."
************
Lemme get this straight, YOU are referring to "insiders" who have pushed for this case to be solved, instead of sitting back and letting LE solve
it ? Obviously, you are speaking of yourself, right Kat ? (Although, "insider" is a bit of a stretch LOL) Not only have you tried a 100 different ways to make Jason innocent of this murder, usually by pinning it on Meredith, but you have ridiculed LE for doing what you deem is an inept job of solving the case consistently. Now you say you are "sure LE is doing a good job" ? Cmon, you gotta take a stand somewhere and stick with it ! This is just a bit wishy-washy considering your zillions of posts that directly contradict your statements here. I'm sure somehow you've now realized your post is not anywhere near reality, right ? Boy, you must really be tired, or waaaaayyy....confused. :shrug:

sonya

10-18-2008, 08:24 AM

Well, I wasn't going to mention that embarrassing visit.
But since you did....

Who released the info? Who embarrassed Linda and her family
by telling the world she had to sneak into the daycare to spend
time with her grandchild?

I would never do that. Maybe the one who did thought it was
a favor to Linda. I don't think so. I doubt Linda will think so if
she ever sees the post and finds the person who embarrassed her and her family.

==Kingcole

In a taped interview, Linda Fisher states that she hopes to someday be in Cassidys life again. That would substantiate the rumors that Jason is keeping Cassidy FROM her own grandmother. She also says in another article that she cannot speak about Jason Young (as in she has been told not to talk about him, so as not to impede the investigation?). So it doesn't sound to me like she is keeping any of these things a secret, or that she is embarassed of it, just very concerned with the state of things.

sonya

10-18-2008, 08:29 AM

The indifference boggles the mind, doesn't it?

Guess it does take all kinds. Funny where some people risk their blind faith and place their allegiance.:shrug:

MOO

Swabby

Or some people just want to be the contrary one in a discussion, they don't care about the case just have anger issues, or starved for attention (any kind will do LOL). Who knows, but this bunch takes the cake when they start accusing you, of all people of bad mouthing Michelle or her family. Any normal, coherent, literate person knows this is straight out of left field (Kat, thats for you) and only meant to try and piss you off in hopes that you'll lose your cool and they'll have something to run and whine to CW about. Ridiculous and such a waste of time ! Hang in there kiddo, we know what you stand for !! :patriot:

sonya

10-18-2008, 08:32 AM

OK thats it for me, going back to bed, see ya swabby !! :seeya:

Barbara2

10-18-2008, 10:01 AM

You are so wrong about that. Don't you think people wonder what kind of person LF must be if her SIL doesn't want her to see his child? In the time that Michelle and Jason were married how did LF behave towards her SIL. Every one likes to talk about Pat McIntyre and call her names. If it wasn't for Pat I doubt LF would get to see Cassie at all. I think Pat tells Jason to let LF see Cassie after all she was Michelle's mother. Jason knows what scars his wife wore that was caused by her mother. I don't mean scars that you can see I mean scars on the soul. I think those therapist notes may hold some insight into those scars. IMO

That doesn't match up with what we know. If the relationship between Michelle and her mother was that bad, why did Michelle leave her husband for two weeks and go stay with her mother after she lost her baby?

Wyn

10-18-2008, 10:14 AM

<<~~~~ That would be a proud Jason diehard fan.

Thanxxxx.

Kat

Do you have any idea how foolish that quote above makes you look? You think Michelle's murder is a joke? Jason's the most likely suspect and you're declaring yourself a "diehard fan"? hammer

HTHB.

Old King Cole has become a punch line in numerous jokes. I'm not sure why making fools out of yourselves on a public message board is so entertaining for you but feel free to keep it up. I'm sure you serve some sort of purpose in the scheme of things. Karma.

Linda Fisher isn't embarrassed by Pat Young changing her phone number. With the media is constantly calling, wanting a quote or comment from the murder's family, seems reasonable. Bottom line, when she changed it, she failed to let the Fishers know. Won't take mail from them, didn't give them the new phone number. Pat Young should be embarrassed. And ashamed.

Cardinal

10-18-2008, 10:20 AM

~snipped~ I think those therapist notes may hold some insight into those scars. IMO

I think it more likely that the therapist's notes hold some insight into Michelle's concerns about her marriage.

annalyzer

10-18-2008, 10:28 AM

I think it more likely that the therapist's notes hold some insight into Michelle's concerns about her marriage.

Morning Cardinal. Yeah more CE. Makes you wonder even more why there hasn't been an arrest. Justice for Michelle is long past due. :seeya:

Wyn

10-18-2008, 10:28 AM

Well, I wasn't going to mention that embarrassing visit.
But since you did....

Who released the info? Who embarrassed Linda and her family
by telling the world she had to sneak into the daycare to spend
time with her grandchild?

I would never do that. Maybe the one who did thought it was
a favor to Linda. I don't think so. I doubt Linda will think so if
she ever sees the post and finds the person who embarrassed her and her family.

==Kingcole

Why do you keep lying? Nobody sneaked into the daycare. They walked in the front door. They were there for hours. Pat Young is a fool if she thinks her bad behavior wouldn't get out, and so are you if you think your silly comments and lies are going to change the truth. Only the idiots and "diehard fans" are going to believe anything you post.

You've embarrassed Pat Young so many times on the board that you shouldn't worry too much about her being "outed" by this bad behavior. She should be ashamed though. Very ashamed.

5swab5

10-18-2008, 10:31 AM

That doesn't match up with what we know. If the relationship between Michelle and her mother was that bad, why did Michelle leave her husband for two weeks and go stay with her mother after she lost her baby?

Exactly!

Trying to lay the blame on Linda is getting tiresome and sounding very desperate.

We must be getting close to another GJ day, the JI²s are predictable if nothing else.

MOO

Swabby

Cardinal

10-18-2008, 10:34 AM

Morning Cardinal. Yeah more CE. Makes you wonder even more why there hasn't been an arrest. Justice for Michelle is long past due. :seeya:

Morning, Anna. :seeya:

Yes, justice for Michelle, and Rylan, is long past due. I wish I knew what the DA is waiting for. Maybe it's just a matter of enough time to review the case before seeking an indictment. While the evidence isn't perfect, I've seen cases with less CE taken to trial.

JMO

annalyzer

10-18-2008, 10:39 AM

Morning, Anna. :seeya:

Yes, justice for Michelle, and Rylan, is long past due. I wish I knew what the DA is waiting for. Maybe it's just a matter of enough time to review the case before seeking an indictment. While the evidence isn't perfect, I've seen cases with less CE taken to trial.

JMO

I don't think they've passed Laci's Law (or whatever) in NC so I doubt there will be justice for the death of the fetus. The murderer(s) will only be held accountable for the death of Michelle.

And yes I have also seen cases with a conviction with less CE. I wish they'd at least release a statement to the press.

Cardinal

10-18-2008, 11:01 AM

I don't think they've passed Laci's Law (or whatever) in NC so I doubt there will be justice for the death of the fetus. The murderer(s) will only be held accountable for the death of Michelle.

And yes I have also seen cases with a conviction with less CE. I wish they'd at least release a statement to the press.

No, unfortunately, NC doesn't have Laci's Law. But even though the murderer can't be held legally accountable, a conviction will mean moral accountability, imo.

We're coming up on the 2-year anniversay of Michelle's death - hopefully, that will generate some media attention, and maybe a statement from LE.

Wyn

10-18-2008, 12:10 PM

Back this up with facts, or drop it.

That dog won't hunt.

Nobody with any sense believes what June posts. We know that Jason doesn't want the Fishers to see Cassidy because they KNOW what his relationship with Michelle was behind closed doors. This statement of June's is so outrageous it's laughable "If it wasn't for Pat I doubt LF would get to see Cassie at all". If June were as knowledgable as she likes to pretend to be, she'd know that Pat Young had nothing to with the Fishers FINALLY seeing Cassidy. Absolutely nothing. Hasn't even bothered to pick up a phone and call the Fishers with that new number.

Her ramblings about scars are half right, they were caused by Jason. They must think Michelle wasn't very bright if she didn't question that auto accident. When the therapist notes are finally made public I'm willing to bet that accident is part of the reason.

Wyn

10-18-2008, 01:00 PM

WYN EMBARRASSED:

Linda Fisher isn't embarrassed by Pat Young changing her phone number. With the media is constantly calling, wanting a quote or comment from the murder's family, seems reasonable. Bottom line, when she changed it, she failed to let the Fishers know. Won't take mail from them, didn't give them the new phone number. Pat Young should be embarrassed. And ashamed.
=======================

There you go again. You really ought to check with Linda before embarrassing
her like that. You really think she wants the world to know she can't contact her
son-in-law and grandchild?

Why do you continue to post embarrassing info like this?

To speak for Linda like this, you do talk with her occasionally, I reckon.
But does she know what you are telling the world about her?
Somehow, I doubt it.

==Kingcole[/QUOTE]

:lol:

Now there you go again with your attempt to spin Pat Young's shameful, embarrassing behavior. The world already knows that the Fishers can't contact Cassidy. They know the Christmas presents were sent back. They know the daycare was instructed not to let the Fishers see Cassidy again. No matter how you try and defend Pat Young's despicable behavior, she's still responsible. She made the choices. Was she so niave she didn't think people would find out?

You can keep trying to shore up that pedastal you have Pat Young on all you want but it's sitting on quicksand. Can't you hear that sucking noise? She's going to be dragged under with Jason by her own shameful actions.

ETA: Is this really the way the mother of a murder suspect wants to be seen treating the family of the murder victim? Her embarrassment has only just begun.

Wyn

10-18-2008, 01:17 PM

Three things you should be aware of before posting your 'facts'....

1. You should check with the daycare workers to see what Jason
actually told them.

2. 'Pat' cannot forbid anything about access to Cassie.

3. You needlessly embarrass Mrs. Fisher about the gift return.
When she told you about it, I reckon she didn't expect you to
blab it to the world.

==Kingcole

1. Daycare workers don't answer questions from strangers so you're pretty safe with that one aren't you? You like to brag on how you and Jason are such good "buds", I'm sure he tells you everything so what did he say he told the daycare. Go on, you can tell us.

2. "Pat" can forbid anything she wants to in regards to access to Cassidy because she is Cassidy's grandmother. When Jason is not present and she is in Pat Young's care, Pat Young has control. Am I to believe Pat Young doesn't control the phone in her home? Seriously, I heard her on the NCWanted phone call. When she says jump, I'm sure Jason and Gerald ask how high.

3. You've embarrassed the Youngs, and yourself, with your continuing comments about the gifts. Why do you keep blaming the Fishers for something Pat Young did? What kind of person returns the Christmas gifts of a young child from her maternal grandmother? Despicable. Truly despicable.

I doubt Pat Young expects you to keep blabbing to the world about their personal situtions but that hasn't stop you, has it? Too bad they aren't aware of the damage you inflict to their reputation everyday. Not that they have much a reputation left to damage. Pretty rock bottom now.

Wyn

10-18-2008, 01:18 PM

Don't know what Jason told the daycare staff. Maybe he told them
to call him before allowing visitors. Maybe he wanted to be present.
You and I are just guessing.

==Kingcole

You could stop guessing and just ask him. And while you're at it, ask him what he did with the shirt. I'll bet he's got a cell phone too. Tell him to let Cassidy use it to call her maternal grandmother. I'll be he remembers the phone number.

Wyn

10-18-2008, 01:29 PM

1) Once again: Jason makes the decisions about his daughter.

2) No contact...the presents....the daycare. The world knows of
Mrs. Fisher's embarrassment because of posters like you. I doubt
she expected you to spread it on the internet. Of course, I don't know
that to be true. Maybe she doesn't mind the embarrassment. Maybe
she instructed you to tell the world.

==Kingcole

I don't believe that Jason makes all the decisions regarding Cassidy. Especially since she lives in Pat Young's home. Remember, Jason doesn't have a home.

I don't know what you expect to gain by repeating the Fishers' should be embarrassed by Pat Young's despecable act of returning the Christmas presents. What about that should be embarrassing to the Fishers and why should it embarrass them that the world should know what Pat Young did? Pat Young is responsible for her own shameful actions.

Still fishing I see. Unlike your puppets, nobody pulls our strings.

Do the Youngs actually know you post here and help us keep their shameful actions in the public eye?

Wyn

10-18-2008, 01:41 PM

Not only does he not have his own home, he has no job .
Pat obviously pays the daycare bill, as he cannot afford this with his weekly allowance for mowing Pat's lawn and occasionally sitting Cassidy.

Can you even begin to imagine the atmosphere in that home? Scary. I think I know why KC keeps repeating that "embarrass the Fishers" fantasy that he's got going. He's trying to convince himself because the reality/truth hurts!

Wyn

10-18-2008, 01:51 PM

KINGCOLE ATTEMPTS DAMAGE CONTROL FOR PAT YOUNG

Ask Cosmo. I've already professed ignorance. I reckon Cosmo got it from Mrs. Fisher.
I don't talk to my bud about any of this stuff.

Don't know if Mrs. Fisher wants him to
spread info like this. Maybe so. Maybe she doesn't think this stuff is embarrassing for her.

==Kingcole

Why would I ask Cosmo? It would be a Jason/Pat Young decision. Thanks for admitting your ignorance.

What information is Cosmo spreading that should embarrass Mrs. Fisher? Why do you think the Fishers would be embarrassed by Pat Young's shameful acts? Why do keep repeating that random statement? Is your fantasy an attempt to deflect the truth of what Pat Young did off on to the victim's innocent family, or are you trying to reconcile your "Saint Pat" image with the embarrassing one of her that you know to be true.

Wyn

10-18-2008, 01:53 PM

This 'stuff' is only embarrassing for you and the Young's.
Don't worry, i'm sure all the details will come out in civil court.
Wonder who will be mortified then ?

That could be quite interesting if Pat Young is called to the stand. Can't wait to hear her answers to her shameful actions towards the victim's family.

bookie

10-18-2008, 02:01 PM

Back this up with facts, or drop it.

That dog won't hunt.

Why aren't you asking the JDI's to back up their claims? The ring throwing? Phone number being changed? They fit your agenda so it's ok for them to be posted as rumors with nothing backing them up? Funny how that works. :rolleyes:

Wyn

10-18-2008, 02:22 PM

Ignorance is hard to hide. Might as well get it out into the open.

You don't think Mrs. Fisher finds this stuff embarrassing? Okay.

I can't really debate it. I only see it from my perspective. To me,
it would be embarrassing. I wouldn't want my friends and relatives
to know.

Maybe some of our lurkers would weigh in on this. I'd be interested
in hearing other viewpoints.

==Kingcole

Your ignorance isn't hard to hide and NO, Mrs. Fisher isn't embarrassed by the Youngs actions. Pat Young is the only personal who holds responsiblity for what she is done. Free Will and all that jazz.

I'm surprised that anything would embarrass you. So, let me see if I understand this. If your SIL murdered J, and then ran off to hide five hours away in another town, and moved in with his mother. No biggie. And if J & your SIL had a child (we know they don't, but this is hypothetical), YOU would be embarrassed if you sent your grandchild Christmas presents but the murder suspects mother sent them back unopened?

YOU would be embarrassed if the murder suspect's mother changed her phone number and failed to let you know. And if you went to the daycare to visit your grandchild YOU would be embarrassed if the murder suspect, or his mother, told you that you could never come back to the daycare again? You must be a liberal because they're the only people who think others can be held responsible for something they do wrong themselves. :shrug:

Calling all puppets? Need someback up? I'm surprised you want to keep this going.

Doesn't change a thing what the other JII's think, because Pat Young is still responsible for HER OWN ACTIONS.

Wyn

10-18-2008, 02:24 PM

Pat McIntyre is the only reason that LF and her friends weren't escorted out of the day care by LE. Pat McIntyre was not the one in the wrong that day.

I could have sworn that Pat goes by Young instead of McIntyre. Is she going by McIntyre now to distance herself from the bad name of "Young" around Brevard? Pat Young didn't have the nerve to have them escorted out of the daycare. You think she wants to confront them? She'd rather been mean and sneaky.

Wyn

10-18-2008, 02:26 PM

Wyn

10-18-2008, 02:34 PM

You are way behind on the rumors. There isn't going to be and civil trail because Jason hasn't got any money and the LI will go to Cassie anyway. Yea right. LF started hearing the words Dem bones Dem bones. Those skeltons were really rattling.

You are just so funny. Lies, them lies, that KC's SIL could never back up? If I were you, I wouldn't trust your (phony) sources because they have nothing to lose by making you look like a fool.

5swab5

10-18-2008, 02:36 PM

Embarrassing?

I'll tell you what is embarrassing!

Having a son that is the main focus of a double murder investigation.

Living in a small town and having people whispering behind your back everywhere you go.

Having a neighbor that WILL NOT resist the temptation to pass along any little scrap of information that he hears about your family.

Screeching on the phone with NCW people and having that call preserved on the Internet.

Having it broadcast on TV, newspapers and the Internet that your family has neglected to attend any Memorials or erect a tombstone on the grave of your murdered daughter-in-law and your grandson.

Having it common knowledge that your family is keeping a murder victim's daughter from her maternal side of the family.

Living with the reality, that every bit of ugliness that you have shown toward the maternal grandmother of your granddaughter is slowly but surely coming out.

Knowing deep down inside that there is a murderer living in your house.

Now that's EMBARASSING!

MOO

Swabby

Wyn

10-18-2008, 02:40 PM

Barbara2

10-18-2008, 03:00 PM

Wyn

10-18-2008, 04:24 PM

LE can't prove what you write as gospel. So I have to dismiss what you say all together. Nothing That has happened in the last 2 years would compare to what those Fisher girls faced in school when they were little. Ask MF she talks to a few that post here. She knows the truth. That's why LF hasn't done what NC's parents did. She don't want dem dry bones to rattle. IMO

"LE can't prove what you write as gospel."

I don't think LE really cares about any of the TRUTHS that Swabby posted. :lol:

Jason is living in a small town and they are whispering behind his back. Nothing to do with the investigation, but it's still true.

Neighbor may be stretching it but yes it's true, he lives in the same small town and can't keep his mouth closed. With friends like him, who needs enemies. :) LE thinks he's a joke.

Pat Young's phone call is online. I'm sure LE has listened to it, and probably laughed. It's true it's online at NCWanted.

Yes, lots of news coverage. Nothing to do with the investigation but it has been covered.

Common knowledge that the Youngs are keeping Cassidy from the Fishers, yep true. Go back and look at some of the past newstories. Irrelevant to the investigation also.

I think Swabby is spot on with the next one. Cassidy will know the truth about why she couldn't see her mother's family one day. She won't be a child forever. Irrelevant to the investigation. Goes to show character though.

You think Pat Young doesn't have an inkling that her son is a murderer. She may be in deep denial but I doubt she's that clueless. Still irrelevant to the murder investigation.

You don't know the Fishers. KC and his SIL already tried that smear tactic elsewhere. If you bring it here, you better be ready to back it up. You'll be taking the fall for whoever is playing you for a fool.

Wyn

10-18-2008, 06:46 PM

I take it you are either Linda Fisher or Meredith Fisher or are speaking on their behalf? My condolences on your loss. May I ask what you hope to gain by airing this personal battle with Jason and his mother in a public forum?

You know what has been gained by this being made public. More people know the kind of family the Youngs REALLY are now.

Wyn

10-18-2008, 06:49 PM

We do know something led Michelle to seek a therapist and that therapist has information that is somehow tied to the criminal investigation. Even if this case isn't solved soon, there is nothing preventing an investigative journalist such as 48 Hours from rattling closets.

I think that's a wonderful idea! I wish 48 Hours or Dateline would start looking into this case. They would probably want to start with the auto accident where Jason managed to run off the other side of the road, down an embankment, and into the river. Just after he asked Michelle to unbuckle her seat belt. Perhaps she discussed it with someone besides the therapist? Close friends, co-workers, family? Wonder what she thought about that accident?

Wyn

10-18-2008, 06:52 PM

You make an excellent point and I think the Youngs should make it common knowledge WHY Jason isn't allowing visits more than once per year no matter how embarrassing it may be.

I agree with you YET again! Except you have one thing wrong. He's not allowing ANY visits at all. What's with the once a year? They can't even see her at Christmas. Wonder what his excuse will be? His mom is mad at the Fishers? Wonder why? Do you think he'd actually say why in a televised interview? Do you know the REAL reason?

Wyn

10-18-2008, 06:57 PM

Why does June need to provide links to what she's heard? I haven't seen any links backing up the stories about rings being swallowed or tossed into a river or near drowning attempts or much else so if June would like to elaborate about Michelle's childhood, I'd like to know. Who knows? Maybe someone will see it and it will jog their memory and it will be a new lead for LE? Frankly, I think LE would be glad for the help.

She hasn't actually said what she's heard, so I guess that means she's just full of hot air. I've heard she's got nothing. :biggrin:

Wyn

10-18-2008, 07:36 PM

This from you? The one who constantly demands links? The one who rarely provides links, except when it pertains to your version of the law or a news article? Talk about "absurd". You do know how to make me laugh! :lol:

Previous reincarnation then? ;)

sonya

10-18-2008, 08:15 PM

I agree. I thought he looked awfully sad skiing and vacationing in the sun. You should have seen the Maine photos. If someone hadn't gotten into Jason Photo bucket account you would have. Yep he sure does look sad. LOL

Well, here it is, your own words that show exactly the reason you are here and posting on the Michelle Fisher Young Board. It is all just a big joke for you isn't it June ? Hilarious to you isn't it that Jason is out vacationing and partying in the wake of his wife and CHILD'S murder? Your post says it all, you should be ashamed, how heartless !! Anyone (like you) that continually posts in defense of the suspect in a murder case (a baby was murdered also, June) and backs him up on all his bad behavior, then types LOL about it, in my book, doesn't have any business on this board. It would appear that your reason for being here is just to defend Jason Young, and to spin all the incriminating evidence onto someone else (in your case the victims INNOCENT sister and mother). Do you have a personal reason why you type such terrible things about Linda Fisher, Michelle Youngs MOTHER and Meredith Fisher, Michelle Youngs SISTER ? Have they done something to hurt you or your family ? Or do you just enjoy doing this to innocent victims of a
murder, under the guise of being Jason Youngs pal ? Like anyone seriously is buying into that theory. Anyway, you should curb your enthusiasm about Michelle's tragic death, it really isn't socially acceptable
(MORALS, ever heard of them ?) to have a field day with the murder of an innocent young mother and her equally innocent baby boy. hammer

sonya

10-18-2008, 08:27 PM

Why aren't you asking the JDI's to back up their claims? The ring throwing? Phone number being changed? They fit your agenda so it's ok for them to be posted as rumors with nothing backing them up? Funny how that works. :rolleyes:

The fact is Jason has cut Linda Fisher off from her granddaughter, she stated it in an interview a few months back. She also doesn't address Jason or the fact that he is being heavily investigated in this murder, because she has been asked not to go there (by LE). So, why would these things be so hard to believe, the Youngs (Jason and Pat) are exhibiting heartless behavior since the day Michelle was killed. It's never been about Poor Michelle, only poor, poor Jason, he's been treated so bad by LE, whaaaa ... Compare the behavior of Linda Fisher and what you've heard her saying publically, then go to NCWanted and listen to Pat Young's phone call and check out Jasons dating ad and tell me who the heartless narcissists are and who the compassionate and dignified victims in this crime are. Your two items (rumors) pale in comparison, actually they cease to matter in the scheme of things, who cares ? People DO care about actual facts that have been stated by Linda Fisher, those aren't rumors, they are first hand accounts of the type of people Jason and his mother are and how devastated they are by Michelles murder (ya,Right !!) and how they show their compassion for Michelle's family. :rolleyes:

sonya

10-18-2008, 08:34 PM

I don't think the Youngs keeping Cassidy from her Grandmother has anything to do with Linda Fisher or her supposed "skeletons". More to do with the fact that Cassidy may know something about what actually went down Nov 2/3, 2006 and they are paranoid she might blurt something incriminating out. Therefore, they have tried to blank out any memory of Linda Fisher or Michelle so Cassidy will eventually forget all about them and the murder night. Pretty transparent to me...After all, all the while Michelle was alive there was plenty of interaction between Cassidy and Linda and Meredith Fisher, Jason sure didn't keep them away from her then now did he ? Nope, just since Michelle was beaten to death in their family home, with Cassidy possibly present have they been kept from her. Pathetic behavior for anyone, let alone the childs father, he really seems to be interested in her mental health doesn't he?
Her mother is suddenly gone from the picture one day, and Cassidy hasn't been allowed to see her maternal Grandmother or Aunt since that day, either. That was real healthy for her in her traumatized state, yep, yank more loved ones out of her life (overnight alot changed, huh ?) and make her deal with added pain while she's at it. And, not even 3 years old at the time, it's a crime in my book, a felony !! :no:

sonya

10-18-2008, 08:37 PM

Fact is, I don't constantly demand links, never have. What is absurd is your insistence something so stupid is true. Idiots do laugh a lot or so I've heard. :rolleyes:

Sorry, you constantly demand links...and rarely, if EVER provide any...that poster is absolutely right, your wrong. :shrug:

sonya

10-18-2008, 08:42 PM

daddydidit

10-18-2008, 09:46 PM

You need to prove I've constantly demanded links.

Fair warning: continue posting lies about me and I'll report you.

:lol::lol::lol:

well, I just fell outta my chair laughing - "I'll report you."

Wyn

10-19-2008, 12:26 AM

He's back.

Who's back? I doubt this poster is who you think they are, but then again, you're pretty wrong about most things aren't you?

Wyn

10-19-2008, 12:27 AM

You need to prove I've constantly demanded links.

Fair warning: continue posting lies about me and I'll report you.

Hey, she admitted to being a tattletale! :cool:

Wyn

10-19-2008, 12:45 AM

Put the hammer away. I wasn't talking about the murder and you know it. I am talking about what is being said about the Fisher's and the Young's. I told you there are those here that talk to MF she could tell you what I mean. You are convinced Jason killed Michelle I am just as convinced that he didn't so Jason is the one that lost his wife and son. Cassie is the one that lost her mother and brother. Someday she will know every word that has been said on here about her father. I can't begin to imagine what this will do to her. her father is all she has left. I trust Jason completely in his decision not to let the Fishers see Cassie. Can you imagine what kind of things they would say to her. I can I see it on here every day.

Yes, Cassidy did lose her Mother and her unborn brother, along with a maternal grandmother, aunt, maternal great-grandmother, great-aunts, second cousins. That's what makes the Youngs' action of keeping Cassidy away from the Fishers even more reprehensible.

Jason Young is a murder suspect, his actions and the actions of those close to him are open to scrutiny because of this. If the Youngs don't like the spotlight, they should have a talk with Jason. The Fishers are the victim's family. Your comment "I told you there are those here that talk to MF she could tell you what I mean." is laughable. Your sole purpose seems to try and smear the victim's family. NOTHING MF does is relevant to Michelle's murder, it just makes those who support Jason even more desperate than usual. If I didn't know better I'd think you could be Alan Fisher's wife. You certainly fit what I've heard, but then again even she couldn't be dumb enough to use her real name. I wonder, whose puppet are you?

Barbara2

10-19-2008, 09:16 AM

[QUOTE=Wyn;12308494]Yes, Cassidy did lose her Mother and her unborn brother, along with a maternal grandmother, aunt, maternal great-grandmother, great-aunts, second cousins. That's what makes the Youngs' action of keeping Cassidy away from the Fishers even more reprehensible.

QUOTE]

Don't you find it strange that with all of this big family of Michelle's you talk about she trusted Heather to care for her child in case of an early death? Wonder what Michelle knew that you don't?

That means absolutely nothing. Most couples want another married couple raising their child in the event that something happens to both parents. They want the child in a family situation as close to that of their actual family. Do you find it interesting that they chose Heather over Kim? Did they know something about her?

JHP

10-19-2008, 10:09 AM

[QUOTE=june1943;12309151]

That means absolutely nothing. Most couples want another married couple raising their child in the event that something happens to both parents. They want the child in a family situation as close to that of their actual family. Do you find it interesting that they chose Heather over Kim? Did they know something about her?

Wasn't it a friend of Michelles that drew up the will? I wonder if Michelle shared why she chose Heather with her. Maybe it was Jason's input, and he failed to mention that he was planning on killing her when she agreed to Heather.

Another thing I find interesting is there are no alternates mentioned.

We have not seen Michelle's actual will have we? So it really is just a rumor about Heather then.

JMO

Jules2

10-19-2008, 10:10 AM

Don't you find it strange that with all of this big family of Michelle's you talk about she trusted Heather to care for her child in case of an early death? Wonder what Michelle knew that you don't?

Michelle didn't have any thing against Kim she just wanted Heather to have Cassie because she lived close to Grandma Pat. It was locale nothing else.

First you find it strange, then you say it was nothing more than locale.
Make up your mind because you must be getting dizzy from all that flip flopping.

IMO

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 12:38 PM

sonya

10-19-2008, 12:44 PM

For Kat and anyone else claiming this case is about to go COLD:

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=42477#wantedfor

sonya

10-19-2008, 12:57 PM

Instead of goals of embarrassing one side or the other, the goal should be to solve Michelle's heinous murder, shouldn't it? If I was either family, I'd care less about embarrassment and more about doing whatever it takes to solving a crime LE can't seem to solve on their own.

Some issue led Michelle to that therapist so why not publicize it? Maybe someone in New York has additional information but not realize it? Get it all out in the open.

I agree the goal should be to solve this murder, but by publicizing therapist notes don't you think that could jeapordize the investigation ? Just because you want to know all these details, doesn't mean you are entitled or that anyone else thinks you are either. You may not think LE is capable of solving this crime, but the citizens of Wake Co. AND Linda Fisher, the victims mother don't seem to have a problem with LE and their method of crime solving. Why do you ?

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 12:58 PM

For Kat and anyone else claiming this case is about to go COLD:

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=42477#wantedfor

Last updated Jan 11 2007?

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=42477

I don't believe this case is going cold. But I would appreciate something from officials, a news update or something.

sonya

10-19-2008, 01:43 PM

Last updated Jan 11 2007?

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=42477

I don't believe this case is going cold. But I would appreciate something from officials, a news update or something.

You miss the point of America's Most Wanted picking up the case, keeping it in the publics eye. And the date of the AMW page is 10/19/08.

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 02:00 PM

You miss the point of America's Most Wanted picking up the case, keeping it in the publics eye. And the date of the AMW page is 10/19/08.

I didn't miss any point. The MY case was last updated in early 2007. Unless you can show me where it was updated later?

Barbara2

10-19-2008, 02:01 PM

[QUOTE=Barbara2;12309159]

Is Kim married?

I do believe she is.

sonya

10-19-2008, 05:08 PM

I didn't miss any point. The MY case was last updated in early 2007. Unless you can show me where it was updated later?

I saw the AMW page today, since the page itself shows todays date, I assumed it was NEW. Excuse me for the mistake, hope I didn't put you out any. :biggrin:

sonya

10-19-2008, 05:10 PM

Today's date is 10/19/08 and Anna is right. An old un-updated link is hardly keeping the case alive. An update would be nice. Maybe you could work on that? Your time spent insulting posters here seems such a waste. :shrug:

And you ? What about your time spent here being as rude and obnoxious as you can be ? You hold the record of RUDE, usually it's when you have no other answer, just like to see your name in print ? hammer

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 05:16 PM

I saw the AMW page today, since the page itself shows todays date, I assumed it was NEW. Excuse me for the mistake, hope I didn't put you out any. :biggrin:

Duh. :read:

HI_CYCLE

10-19-2008, 05:32 PM

Just got back from a out of town wedding and had a experience with my room key that may explain why Jason only used his key (one) time.After the rehearsal dinner and I returned to my room I realized I had left my key inside my room. I had know problem,just went to the front desk and they gave me another but also told me the other key would no longer work to make sure I kept them separated.
So is this what happen to Jason? Did he go out and when he returned to his room realized his key was locked inside? Did he go get a new one? Maybe this incident was deliberately left out of the SW? Lying by omission? While walking back to my room with a new key it struck me this could have happened to Jason? I apologized to the desk clerk and he stated", NO BIG DEAL,it happens all the time".
Beautiful wedding,bride and weather. The wedding took place in a castle.

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 05:38 PM

Barbara2

10-19-2008, 05:38 PM

HI_CYCLE

10-19-2008, 05:42 PM

The search warrant indicated that no other key was used to access that room until the next morning around 11 something when housekeeping entered the room.Now I have to go back and re-read the SW.:(

HI_CYCLE

10-19-2008, 06:22 PM

The search warrant indicated that no other key was used to access that room until the next morning around 11 something when housekeeping entered the room.
OK, I went back and read and the context of the card key is in reference to the side door NOT his room door.
""It also made it unnecessary for anyone to use their key card when re-entering through this door. This is important because the keycard system records when a key card is used. It also records to whom the key card has been assigned."

Jason Young's key card was used on one occasion, approximately six minutes after he checked into the hotel, according to the affidavits."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3365337/

"It also made it unnecessary for anyone to use their key card when re-entering through this door."
"Jason Young's key card was used on one occasion, approximately six minutes after he checked into the hotel"
These are the key words in the SW. IMO...'
IMO they are saying because of the rock preventing the door from closing Jason only had to use his key card just ONE time.MOO

Barbara2

10-19-2008, 06:33 PM

OK, I went back and read and the context of the card key is in reference to the side door NOT his room door.
""It also made it unnecessary for anyone to use their key card when re-entering through this door. This is important because the keycard system records when a key card is used. It also records to whom the key card has been assigned."

Jason Young's key card was used on one occasion, approximately six minutes after he checked into the hotel, according to the affidavits."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3365337/

"It also made it unnecessary for anyone to use their key card when re-entering through this door."
"Jason Young's key card was used on one occasion, approximately six minutes after he checked into the hotel"
These are the key words in the SW. IMO...'
IMO they are saying because of the rock preventing the door from closing Jason only had to use his key card just ONE time.MOO

You cut off the rest of the statement:

“Jason Young’s assigned keycard was only used on one occasion. The single keycard use was approximately six minutes after Jason Young registered into the hotel. As seen in the security video, Jason Young does leave his hotel room. However, the next recorded use of the keycard is at approximately 11:41 am by the Hampton Inn housekeeping staff.”

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 06:36 PM

You cut off the rest of the statement:

“Jason Young’s assigned keycard was only used on one occasion. The single keycard use was approximately six minutes after Jason Young registered into the hotel. As seen in the security video, Jason Young does leave his hotel room. However, the next recorded use of the keycard is at approximately 11:41 am by the Hampton Inn housekeeping staff.”

Yes his "assigned" card. Wasn't that HC's point? :shrug:

Barbara2

10-19-2008, 06:39 PM

Yes his "assigned" card. Wasn't that HC's point? :shrug:

There was no use of any keycard until the next day. That's what is stated in the warrant. "However, the next recorded use of the keycard is at approximately 11:41 am by the Hampton Inn housekeeping staff."

JHP

10-19-2008, 06:48 PM

There was no use of any keycard until the next day. That's what is stated in the warrant. "However, the next recorded use of the keycard is at approximately 11:41 am by the Hampton Inn housekeeping staff."

So, his keycard was used 1 time to enter his room.

Why has JY not been arrested? What is wrong with the DA? I just don't get it.

JMO

HI_CYCLE

10-19-2008, 06:57 PM

So, his keycard was used 1 time to enter his room.

Why has JY not been arrested? What is wrong with the DA? I just don't get it.

JMO
Because it does NOT say his key card was used only once to enter his room. It was used one time to enter the side entry door. IMO
Read again very closely at the wording.

Barbara2

10-19-2008, 07:06 PM

Because it does NOT say his key card was used only once to enter his room. It was used one time to enter the side entry door. IMO
Read again very closely at the wording.

That doesn't make sense in conjunction with this statement:

"As seen in the security video, Jason Young does leave his hotel room. However, the next recorded use of the keycard is at approximately 11:41 am by the Hampton Inn housekeeping staff."

(bolded emphasis mine)

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 07:08 PM

Because it does NOT say his key card was used only once to enter his room. It was used one time to enter the side entry door. IMO
Read again very closely at the wording.

That's not how I take it. The rock made it unnecessary for anyone to have to use a key to enter the outside door. Jason's keycard was used 6 minutes after he checked in. To enter his room not enter the outside door.

"Shortly after his second appearance, he is shown headed toward a side exit where hotel employees discovered a rock had been placed in the door jam to keep the door from closing and automatically locking, investigators said.

"It also made it unnecessary for anyone to use their keycard when re-entering through this door. This is important because the keycard system records when a keycard is used. It also records to whom the keycard has been assigned."

Jason Young's key card was used on one occasion, approximately six minutes after he checked into the hotel, according to the affidavits."

JHP

10-19-2008, 07:08 PM

Because it does NOT say his key card was used only once to enter his room. It was used one time to enter the side entry door. IMO
Read again very closely at the wording.

To me it reads the keycard was used 1 time period. No it doesn't say where, room, sidedoor, pool, exercise room. So if he did enter his room that was the 1 time.
That is what it says to me.

JMO

Wyn

10-19-2008, 07:35 PM

There you go. The same people that told you things about JF can tell you the things about LF. I just knew you had the connections. You just need to use them.

barf

Are you really the idiot you pretend to be? Did the whole message go over your head? JASON YOUNG IS A MURDER SUSPECT, as long as he is a suspect and the search warrants targeted him and his family's homes, they are open for discussion. The FISHERS are the VICTIM'S Family, and unless LE starts serving seach warrants on them and they become the focus of the investigation, nothing pertaining to them is relevant to Michelle's murder. Nothing. It's just your attempt to help slander them to try and distract from the real story here.

You have a brain, you just need to use it.

Wyn

10-19-2008, 07:39 PM

[QUOTE=Wyn;12308494]Yes, Cassidy did lose her Mother and her unborn brother, along with a maternal grandmother, aunt, maternal great-grandmother, great-aunts, second cousins. That's what makes the Youngs' action of keeping Cassidy away from the Fishers even more reprehensible.

QUOTE]

Don't you find it strange that with all of this big family of Michelle's you talk about she trusted Heather to care for her child in case of an early death? Wonder what Michelle knew that you don't?

Are you aware that Heather and Michelle got along pretty well from what I've heard? Have you heard anything bad about Heather? I haven't, the rest of the family yes, but not Heather. Meredith was single. Do you really think Michelle would have considered a COUSIN over Jason's sister? :rolleyes:

Wyn

10-19-2008, 07:42 PM

Michelle didn't have any thing against Kim she just wanted Heather to have Cassie because she lived close to Grandma Pat. It was locale nothing else.

You're a trip. This is just totally different what you posted earlier about why would we think Michelle wouldn't consider one of her relatives. Just another attempt to smear the Fishers and you once again made yourself look foolish.

HI_CYCLE

10-19-2008, 08:02 PM

To me it reads the keycard was used 1 time period. No it doesn't say where, room, sidedoor, pool, exercise room. So if he did enter his room that was the 1 time.
That is what it says to me.

JMOIt was used in the same context with discussing the side door and rock. LE NEVER said he only entered HIS room one time with the key. MOO

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 08:09 PM

Barbara, this is O?T but why is my name on your post?

Because someone quoted incorrectly and each time someone quoted again it shows the incorrect nic being quoted. Several examples above.

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 08:22 PM

Thanks. I was gone all day and came back to find my name on a comment I didn't make. It was unsettleing. Did I make the mistake some how?

Yep, looks like you did at post #198.

sonya

10-19-2008, 09:11 PM

Duh. :read:

Is that you pictured, attempting to read your book ? Cute !!

sonya

10-19-2008, 09:12 PM

I only stoop to your level when you make a frothy posting such as this one. hammer backatcha.

Sorry, but that level is where you maintain your existence...scroll by my posts if you like...

sonya

10-19-2008, 09:14 PM

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 09:25 PM

Is that you pictured, attempting to read your book ? Cute !!

No, it was a hint for you to actually read something before ASSuming.

If I was you I'd go crawl in a hole after posting that "new" AMW article. LOL

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 09:48 PM

I saw the AMW page today, since the page itself shows todays date, I assumed it was NEW. Excuse me for the mistake, hope I didn't put you out any. :biggrin:

You know when I first responded to your post I was only pointing out that the article was last updated in early 2007. There was no reason for you to come back with your snide, sarcastic comments.

So no, you didn't put me out any. It was a pleasure to make you look like a FOOL.

sonya

10-19-2008, 10:04 PM

No, it was a hint for you to actually read something before ASSuming.

If I was you I'd go crawl in a hole after posting that "new" AMW article. LOL

Oh ya right, that's just what I should do, actually since you seem familiar with that area of the planet, be my guest. :lol:

sonya

10-19-2008, 10:06 PM

You know when I first responded to your post I was only pointing out that the article was last updated in early 2007. There was no reason for you to come back with your snide, sarcastic comments.

So no, you didn't put me out any. It was a pleasure to make you look like a FOOL.

Because I linked an article by a television program, glad that they were keeping Michelle's story in the news, I'm a fool ? Maybe by your standards, but I guess you're really not on the side for justice anyway.
Didn't you use to spell your nic with only one "n" ?:lol:

annalyzer

10-19-2008, 10:22 PM

Because I linked an article by a television program, glad that they were keeping Michelle's story in the news, I'm a fool ? Maybe by your standards, but I guess you're really not on the side for justice anyway.

Pointing out that a fool posted an old AMW article from early 2007 as "news" has nothing to do with justice.

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 01:09 AM

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 01:14 AM

Well, here it is, your own words that show exactly the reason you are here and posting on the Michelle Fisher Young Board. It is all just a big joke for you isn't it June ? Hilarious to you isn't it that Jason is out vacationing and partying in the wake of his wife and CHILD'S murder? Your post says it all, you should be ashamed, how heartless !! Anyone (like you) that continually posts in defense of the suspect in a murder case (a baby was murdered also, June) and backs him up on all his bad behavior, then types LOL about it, in my book, doesn't have any business on this board. It would appear that your reason for being here is just to defend Jason Young, and to spin all the incriminating evidence onto someone else (in your case the victims INNOCENT sister and mother). Do you have a personal reason why you type such terrible things about Linda Fisher, Michelle Youngs MOTHER and Meredith Fisher, Michelle Youngs SISTER ? Have they done something to hurt you or your family ? Or do you just enjoy doing this to innocent victims of a
murder, under the guise of being Jason Youngs pal ? Like anyone seriously is buying into that theory. Anyway, you should curb your enthusiasm about Michelle's tragic death, it really isn't socially acceptable
(MORALS, ever heard of them ?) to have a field day with the murder of an innocent young mother and her equally innocent baby boy. hammer

Why do you insist on using the h~a~m~m~e~r icon when you know that Michelle was brutally beaten to death?

We all kind of agreed not to use it,.....maybe you didn't get the memo.?

:shrug:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 01:20 AM

For Kat and anyone else claiming this case is about to go COLD:

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=42477#wantedfor

Is this new?

In less than 2 weeks the case will be 2 years old, how is anything about this new?

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 01:22 AM

Welcome back Kat.

Thank you, Tia.

It was only a weekend, but it is good to take a break.

:cough:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 01:26 AM

Today's date is 10/19/08 and Anna is right. An old un-updated link is hardly keeping the case alive. An update would be nice.

<snipped>

:shrug:

I thought I missed something new.

:shrug:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 01:30 AM

GROW UP! When are you going to realize that using "C" to refer to Cassidy is worse than calling her by her given name? WHEN? There is no isolation worse than that imposed by care givers. Cassie has been denied access to her maternal family. When are you going to realize that it is something Michelle never would have wanted?

She didn't know she was going to be bludgeoned to death. She had no idea she wouldn't see her daughter graduate from kindergarten, middle school, junior high or high school. Michelle never thought her life would be snuffed out by her husband before their daughter graduated college.

Cassidy saw and walked through the result of her mother's bludgeoning. Your flip responses to this tragedy baffle me. It is my personal opinion that you should stick with the sports threads and leave your crass, unfeeling, mean-spirited opinions there. Murder victims deserve better.

I know you are not insulting me..:no: :no:

Do you think Michelle would want to see her daughter's name on a public message board ?

That is just one little thing I can do out of respect for Michelle and Jason .

No one has asked you to do it.

:shrug:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 01:34 AM

And you ? What about your time spent here being as rude and obnoxious as you can be ? You hold the record of RUDE, usually it's when you have no other answer, just like to see your name in print ? hammer

Wow, you do like the h~a~m ~m~e~ r icon, don't you?
I think you have used it in 7 straight posts.

At least, no one has ever been murdered by shrugging.

:shrug:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 01:39 AM

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 01:44 AM

Bumped, for the reading impaired :rolleyes:

What's with all the insults?

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 01:49 AM

Thats very nice of you. While you are at it, stop smearing her sister and mother. I think you should do that out of respect for Michelle too.

The same should be appled to Michelle's husband, you do know, she married him 2x, right?

Thanxxx..
:)

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 01:53 AM

You were most likely in AC. Its quite different there from NC.

So, no security alarms on the exit doors ar the Hampton Inns?

I noticed some are getting confused with what door the "rock" was supposedly placed at..

Jason's door to his room or the outside exit door?

We need to get on the same page.

:shrug:

Kat

Wyn

10-20-2008, 09:21 AM

Kingcole is correct and you are wrong.
It was RPD that brought the lawyers name CTV. He also told us what was in the will. At the time he said it was public information he said this not knowing Jason didn't file it. I'm curious as to where KC will be testifying. Is there a trial coming up that only you know about?

Link please.

Funny, I don't remember agreeing to stop using this icon, hammer. That's probably because I didn't. :shrug:
Maybe if you take a good look at the hammer icon it could be a reminder of what really happened and that this isn't a game. There is no score, no winner. Michelle LOST her life.

HTHB.

Wyn

10-20-2008, 09:27 AM

So, no security alarms on the exit doors ar the Hampton Inns?

I noticed some are getting confused with what door the "rock" was supposedly placed at..

Jason's door to his room or the outside exit door?

We need to get on the same page.

:shrug:

Kat

The rock was placed in an EXIT door. There are no alarms on the exit doors at Hampton Inns. You must use a key card to enter from the outside.

sonya

10-20-2008, 10:34 AM

Pointing out that a fool posted an old AMW article from early 2007 as "news" has nothing to do with justice.

ONLY a fool would insult someone for posting a link to a site covering Michelle Youngs murder, a murder unsolved, because of an oversite about a date. I was relieved to see that particular show covering her story, and hadn't seen it before so I thought I'd link it. You could better spend your time insulting posters who are obnoxious and rude, a few of your buddies come to mind. And don't bother telling me I am rude in my posts, because I merely respond to the bs some losers on here post, I don't start it.
:seeya:

sonya

10-20-2008, 10:38 AM

What's with all the insults?

Kat

Beats me :shrug:, I was wondering why a few select posters on here always seem to have such a venomous style of posting. It's like you have to constantly defend yourself against them, and 99% of the time it is unprovoked and really just seems to be their "personality" (using that term loosely) :lol:

sonya

10-20-2008, 10:48 AM

Link please.

Funny, I don't remember agreeing to stop using this icon, hammer. That's probably because I didn't. :shrug:
Maybe if you take a good look at the hammer icon it could be a reminder of what really happened and that this isn't a game. There is no score, no winner. Michelle LOST her life.

HTHB.

Neither do I Wyn, I don't think an agreement like that ever happened, or even a discussion. Ridiculous anyway, it's an icon, supplied by the owners of this board for us all to USE !! Some people get all worked over a cartoon, instead of a murderer walking free for the last two years, and blatantly living it up for all to see. Unbelievable !

HI_CYCLE

10-20-2008, 10:52 AM

Thats very nice of you. While you are at it, stop smearing her sister and mother. I think you should do that out of respect for Michelle too.
The JDI are angry because Jason, the husband and main target of Michelle murder investigation is refusing to talk. He has a right,but why is LF and MF, Michelle`s mom and sister MUM??? WHY?? They want to put pressure on LE let them do like Laci Peterson`s Mom and other Mom`s of murdered women do, get out go on national TV,get a PR person who knows how to get the publicity needed to get Michelle`s case out to the public. No,they let others plan memorials,make and sell Christmas ornaments,they can`t even get out and put together a decent reward. They have done absolutely NOTHING to help keep Michelle`s name in the news.
The JDI can blame Jason all day but if he did not do it,he did NOT do it. Jason can NOT get on the National news programs,he is a target, LF and MF can. WHY haven`t they? Don`t they want the public to be reminded that their daughter and sister is dead,beaten to death by someone who is a cold blooded murderer.
Michelle`s 2 year anniversary is coming up, Linda and Meredith should be on every national TV media they can. The media is NOT going to go after Michelle`s murderer if her own Mother and sister is unwilling to go public.
Linda and Michelle could have kept Michelle`s murder in the news,they could have,but they had to be willing to put their-self out in the public,just as other mother`s have. Let`s spread the blame folks.

Good morning E1.

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 11:06 AM

You do know that Michelle's husband hasn't cooperated with LE 1x, right?

Thanxxx..

:)

Jason supplied them with info on where he was, and complied with the dna testing ordered.

I think it was posted that the Youngs knew he was under suspicion and hired their own team of investigators.

Maybe their team found something that stopped LE's team on the goal line.

:shrug:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 11:09 AM

You are joking, right?

Why would she be?

Which leads to the question,

"If someone other than Jason Young is arrested for the murder of Michlle Young, will you guys be able to accept that?"

Or will you still always think he had a part in the killing somehow??

13 days.........countdown.

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 11:14 AM

The rock was placed in an EXIT door. There are no alarms on the exit doors at Hampton Inns. You must use a key card to enter from the outside.

Why would you need a key card to come through the side exit doors, when you could walk in right through the lobby?

Are you sure the side doors are programmed for key entry?

I sure never have seen that.

Sde or back doors are usually for emergency exits only, or else exit only with no possibility for re~entry.

:confused:

Kat

Wyn

10-20-2008, 11:19 AM

The JDI are angry because Jason, the husband and main target of Michelle murder investigation is refusing to talk. He has a right,but why is LF and MF, Michelle`s mom and sister MUM??? WHY?? They want to put pressure on LE let them do like Laci Peterson`s Mom and other Mom`s of murdered women do, get out go on national TV,get a PR person who knows how to get the publicity needed to get Michelle`s case out to the public. No,they let others plan memorials,make and sell Christmas ornaments,they can`t even get out and put together a decent reward. They have done absolutely NOTHING to help keep Michelle`s name in the news.
The JDI can blame Jason all day but if he did not do it,he did NOT do it. Jason can NOT get on the National news programs,he is a target, LF and MF can. WHY haven`t they? Don`t they want the public to be reminded that their daughter and sister is dead,beaten to death by someone who is a cold blooded murderer.
Michelle`s 2 year anniversary is coming up, Linda and Meredith should be on every national TV media they can. The media is NOT going to go after Michelle`s murderer if her own Mother and sister is unwilling to go public.
Linda and Michelle could have kept Michelle`s murder in the news,they could have,but they had to be willing to put their-self out in the public,just as other mother`s have. Let`s spread the blame folks.

Good morning E1.

"Let`s spread the blame folks."

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on this board. Now you're blaming the Fishers for not creating a media circus? Great idea, I'd love to see them camped out in front of the Youngs' house in Brevard, because Jason IS the main suspect, that's exactly where they would be. Too bad LE and the DA keep the Fishers in the loop, I guess they feel confident enough not to have to whip up the media.

Don't worry though, once Jason IS arrested, the media circus will begin and you'll get to see them trail the Youngs every where they go. It'll be all over the National news and you can get your fill.

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 11:19 AM

Jason HUNG UP on investigators, was ORDERED to give dna samples because he refused, and his MOTHER said on NC Wanted that they "knew he was going to be arrested that night".

He STILL has not cooperated with LE AT ALL.

If LE was screaming at him to get home, and Jason was hurrying and told them he was on the way, and they kept on arguing,
what would be the purpose to stay on the phone.??

Jason came back voluntarily.
Jason showed up that nite back in Raleigh,(Fuquay~Varina)
Jason came to see his daughter.
Jason was in the "murder" vehicle.
Jason did not leave his car behind, although he could have.
Could have driven with Pat, Kim or Heather.

L E did not have to go to Brevard to get him.

Now, that would be suspicious!!

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 11:22 AM

Wyn

10-20-2008, 11:23 AM

Why would you need a key card to come through the side exit doors, when you could walk in right through the lobby?

Are you sure the side doors are programmed for key entry?

I sure never have seen that.

Sde or back doors are usually for emergency exits only, or else exit only with no possibility for re~entry.

:confused:

Kat

You apparently don't stay at Hampton Inns. There are lots here in NC, most are fairly new. They have limited parking in the front. Why would someone who parks in the back, or on the side of the building, walk all the way around the front to the main door? All Hampton Inns have doors on all sides. Clear glass exit doors. Key card locks so that if you are registered and have a valid key card, you can go in the closest door. Simple really. The next time you are out on the road and see one, pull into the parking lot and check it out. ;)

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 11:25 AM

According to Kat, RPD's info is always wrong.
Except when it suits the JII agenda, of course.

We are not here to discuss other posters.

But, yes, you are right, I have never seen anything
posted by that poster to be credible. Ever.

Hope this helps, Bud.

:cough:

Kat

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 11:27 AM

He HAD to go to Birchleaf for Cassidy-should I be impressed that LE didn't have to go get him?

Bravo for Jason for showing up to see he daughter after she walked around in her mothers blood for HOURS.

YOU don't know what vechicle was the murder vehicle.

No, C was not at Birchleaf, she was with the person who found her Mom that made the 911 call.

Well, I know the vehicle was supposed to have had blood spots in it, thus the need for the warrant.

:shrug:

Kat

Wyn

10-20-2008, 11:28 AM

The h~a~m~m~ e~ r~ icon is in bad taste when considering how the victim died.

JMO

Kat

No, the hammer icon is not in bad taste, it's just a random icon on a message board. Comparing the discussion of her murder to sports games and making cutesy or tacky comments like "touch down" in response to other people's post is what's in bad taste.

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 11:29 AM

Please have CW post a warning here if we are not supposed to use it since SHE is the moderator and has told us REPEATEDLY that YOU are NOT.

It was not the moderator that requested the icon to be stopped.

It was supposedly a request from a friend of Michelle's.

Knock yourself out.

:hammer:

Kat

Wyn

10-20-2008, 11:31 AM

We are not here to discuss other posters.

But, yes, you are right, I have never seen anything
posted by that poster to be credible. Ever.

Hope this helps, Bud.

:cough:

Kat

Then why do you keep bringing one poster in particular up? And why are you calling this poster by the wrong nic? Is that proper?

<gag>

HTHB.

Wyn

10-20-2008, 11:33 AM

It was not the moderator that requested the icon to be stopped.

It was supposedly a request from a friend of Michelle's.

Knock yourself out.

:hammer:

Kat

"It was supposedly a request from a friend of Michelle's"

Who, when, how did they ask?

HI_CYCLE

10-20-2008, 11:36 AM

The rock was placed in an EXIT door. There are no alarms on the exit doors at Hampton Inns. You must use a key card to enter from the outside.And..... only one time,as it is stated in the SW.

Wyn

10-20-2008, 11:37 AM

Sorry, I meant she was with her AUNT Meredith, not "that person who found her mom and made the 911 call".

You really hate Meredith, don't you?

Isn't it sad someone could hate someone they don't know, have never met? The victim's sister. The one who was set up by Jason to find her murdered sister and yet she's repeatedly attacked on this board for no reason. :shrug:

Wyn

10-20-2008, 11:41 AM

And..... only one time,as it is stated in the SW.

:shrug:

What's that got to do with the price of tea in China, or the explanation I just gave Kat?

You do realize that Jason could have come back in the exit door when another patron entered or exited the door. I've done that many times so I didn't have to get the key card out of my purse. If you are approaching the door and someone comes out, they'll actually be kind enough down here in the South to stop and hold the door open for you.

As for his room door, I'm sure he used somthing to block it from locking so that no one would ever know, because seriously, he had to have gone back in at sometime.

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 11:41 AM

"Let`s spread the blame folks."

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on this board. Now you're blaming the Fishers for not creating a media circus? Great idea, I'd love to see them camped out in front of the Youngs' house in Brevard, because Jason IS the main suspect, that's exactly where they would be. Too bad LE and the DA keep the Fishers in the loop, I guess they feel confident enough not to have to whip up the media.

Don't worry though, once Jason IS arrested, the media circus will begin and you'll get to see them trail the Youngs every where they go. It'll be all over the National news and you can get your fill.

Unfortunately, it is not a big case anymore.

Just in NC alone, you have the Cooper, Neilsen, possibly Granville, <sp:
cases all happening at once.

Michelle's case is almost 2 years old, the media is not going to be all over it, because there has not been that much news.

The last article was months ago..

The last s/w that was unsealed is now almost 9 months old.

You really think Nancy, Greta, Gerardo, are all going to be showing up in town?

Didn't someone here just promise that when the last s/w's were opened, that the media would be swarming Brevard and putting microphones and tv cameras in the Young faces, forcing them to answer questions?

Didn't happen, did it?
Didn't think so..

Kat

Wyn

10-20-2008, 11:50 AM

Unfortunately, it is not a big case anymore.

Just in NC alone, you have the Cooper, Neilsen, possibly Granville, <sp:
cases all happening at once.

Michelle's case is almost 2 years old, the media is not going to be all over it, because there has not been that much news.

The last article was months ago..

The last s/w that was unsealed is now almost 9 months old.

You really think Nancy, Greta, Gerardo, are all going to be showing up in town?

Didn't someone here just promise that when the last s/w's were opened, that the media would be swarming Brevard and putting microphones and tv cameras in the Young faces, forcing them to answer questions?

Didn't happen, did it?
Didn't think so..

Kat

You seem to have watched way too much television and think a case can't be solved without it being shown constantly on the news with the media circus going full swing. Lots of arrests are made daily, all over the country in murder cases, without being on the national news.

The media will cover the two year anniversary. It'll be in NC though. Because that's the only place that matters in this case. You can check it out on the websites for the local stations next month.

Don't worry about Nancy, Greta, and "Gerardo". They'll all be in town when an arrest is finally made. What I find most interesting about your attitude is that you think that just because there's not the media coverage YOU want, that they aren't trying to cover it. Sometimes people are contacted and decline to become part of the media circus. Not everyone is a publicity hound.

Will it happen? Yes, eventually. Then all your media circus dreams will come true.

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 11:58 AM

I wonder where Jason and his mommy will vacation during the two year memorial?

You won't have to wonder.

The media will be following Jason and swarming all over him and you will be able to see it on Nancy , Greta, and Gerardo.

Right?

Maybe Dan, Larry, and Oprah, and Howard too!!
I mean, it is going to happen 2 days before the election, so I am sure everyone is on it!!

They are closing off streets and setting up road blocks in Brevard right now!!

Kat

Wyn

10-20-2008, 12:21 PM

You won't have to wonder.

The media will be following Jason and swarming all over him and you will be able to see it on Nancy , Greta, and Gerardo.

Right?

Maybe Dan, Larry, and Oprah, and Howard too!!
I mean, it is going to happen 2 days before the election, so I am sure everyone is on it!!

They are closing off streets and setting up road blocks in Brevard right now!!

Kat

And once again you prove that you don't really care about the brutal beating/murder of Michelle Young. It's just a game to you, entertainment, an opportunity to try and be "cute". You fail, you look foolish. I pity you. Maybe you'll get to be on "Oprah" someday when they do a show on murderers and the misguided women who foolishly adore them.

Justice for Michelle and Rylan. :rose:

Wyn

10-20-2008, 12:35 PM

I think they are trying to shield her from hearing the trash that is spewed on here. They know that is what she would hear if LF were allowed around her. Remember the things that was said at the services. There are other on here that was there and they know what was said they just want to white wash it.

http://youngtragedy.blogspot.com/2007/08/fishers.html

The Fishers don't read this board so don't worry your little old self too much over them telling Cassidy what you and the rest of the JII's have said about them. I can't imagine anyone telling stuff like that to a four year old, but then again, who knows WHAT the Youngs have said to Cassidy. "No, honey, it was just a bad dream. DADDY didn't beat Mommy to death, it was someone else and you just THOUGHT it was daddy. No daddy didn't take you to the bathroom and clean you up and put you back to bed, it was just a dream........" No wonder the Youngs want to keep Cassidy away from the Fishers. The brainwashing isn't complete?

annalyzer

10-20-2008, 12:40 PM

"It was supposedly a request from a friend of Michelle's"

Who, when, how did they ask?

Who? Hillar or something like that. When? Several months ago. How did they ask? She told a JII that she thought it was inappropiate to use the hammer icon here since MY had been bludgeoned to death.

annalyzer

10-20-2008, 12:51 PM

ONLY a fool would insult someone for posting a link to a site covering Michelle Youngs murder,

I didn't insult you for posting the link. I merely pointed out the date it was last updated. You started with the insults immediately because you were shown to be a fool.

annalyzer

10-20-2008, 12:55 PM

Neither do I Wyn, I don't think an agreement like that ever happened, or even a discussion.

The discussion happened. But go ahead and use the icon. It suits you well. As does this one ~ :biggrin:

annalyzer

10-20-2008, 12:57 PM

Beats me :shrug:, I was wondering why a few select posters on here always seem to have such a venomous style of posting. It's like you have to constantly defend yourself against them, and 99% of the time it is unprovoked and really just seems to be their "personality" (using that term loosely) :lol:

A quick review of your past posts tells it all. ;)

Wyn

10-20-2008, 01:03 PM

How many times a day do you see someone post on here that Jason killed Michelle? How often do you see someone post on here about the trial for Jason. I haven't forgotten that LF's daughter was murdered nor have I forgotten that JY lost his wife and son. I haven't forgotten that LF was telling anyone that would listen that Jason was the murderer. Do you think he would want his daughter around that kind of thing ? LE hasn't made an arrest in this case and already there are some that have tried and convicted Jason. I don't know why these people that know this haven't contacted LE and helped them solve this case. LE doesn't seem to be on the same page that some are on.

Gee, since Jason is the main suspect I guess we DO see people post here everyday that Jason killed Michelle. I'd have some sympathy for Jason having lost his wife and son if I didn't think HE KILLED THEM. Hard to gather any sympathy for that! I'm not sure why LE hasn't arrested Jason yet but it's common knowledge around Wake County that it's coming one day. Ask one of your many "relatives" that live in the area, surely they've heard the same thing. Maybe you forgot to flip a page?

Wyn

10-20-2008, 01:05 PM

This is the kind of post I am talking about and taiz says there isn't anything being spewed on here. I guess she doesn't read your post.

What? You don't like my story? So I guess the next time Kat posts one of her long "stories" you'll object? Or is it just to anything the JDI's post? If you want to stop the "trash" being "spewed' on here you're going to have to start with yourself.

annalyzer

10-20-2008, 02:47 PM

Please take your 'foolish' arguments to PM.

I was responding to "another" poster. Mind your own business. :no:

5swab5

10-20-2008, 02:48 PM

(snipped for this section)

You do realize that Jason could have come back in the exit door when another patron entered or exited the door. I've done that many times so I didn't have to get the key card out of my purse. If you are approaching the door and someone comes out, they'll actually be kind enough down here in the South to stop and hold the door open for you.

Excellent point!

Once he returned and found that the rock had been removed, he very well could have been sitting in the parking lot just watching for people to exit that side door. A couple of steps inside and he was in the stairwell and up to his room.

I hope LE interviewed every single guest at the Hampton! I also hope that the Hampton has learned that they need for guests to have to use their key cards to "exit" the side doors, not just enter them.

Big Security and Liability risk.

MOO

Swabby

annalyzer

10-20-2008, 02:57 PM

The h~a~m~m~ e~ r~ icon is in bad taste when considering how the victim died.

JMO

Kat

Oh well it's quite the fad now. hammer away!

sonya

10-20-2008, 03:00 PM

Why would she be?

Which leads to the question,

"If someone other than Jason Young is arrested for the murder of Michlle Young, will you guys be able to accept that?"

Or will you still always think he had a part in the killing somehow??

13 days.........countdown.

Kat

A countdown is usually done for a celebration, i.e. New Years Eve (the midnight hour), a birthday, anniversary NOT for the two year mark of an innocent, pregnant womans MURDER...
I don't know what you're talking about half the time, but this post asking if we can accept someone else being arrested for Michelle's murder is ridiculous. All normal, sane human beings want the one responsible for a crime to be apprehended and tried, not one of us would want an innocent person arrested. Why on earth do you continue to ask that question, do you know someone who just wants who they want to be arrested and a murderer to remain free ? It really is a lame question, and for you to keep repeating it is just unbelievable.
Let me guess, you don't care who gets arrested for this murder, as long as it isn't Jason Young, regardless of his guilt or innocence ? :punch:

sonya

10-20-2008, 03:04 PM

Funny, I have always felt that way about a dearly departed poster who used the nic "mimiof5". She was mean, lacked a moral compass and thought she was the kat's meow. I swear she had degrees in things that weren't even invented yet, she just knew everything about each topic on this board. I wonder what happened to her? :shrug:

IMO

She continues on under several nics, still the same old, unhappy, mean, baiting, holier than thou, authoritative (with absolutely no merit)instigator ...uh...poster it always was...bummer isn't it ?

sonya

10-20-2008, 03:08 PM

GROW UP! When are you going to realize that using "C" to refer to Cassidy is worse than calling her by her given name? WHEN? There is no isolation worse than that imposed by care givers. Cassie has been denied access to her maternal family. When are you going to realize that it is something Michelle never would have wanted?

She didn't know she was going to be bludgeoned to death. She had no idea she wouldn't see her daughter graduate from kindergarten, middle school, junior high or high school. Michelle never thought her life would be snuffed out by her husband before their daughter graduated college.

Cassidy saw and walked through the result of her mother's bludgeoning. Your flip responses to this tragedy baffle me. It is my personal opinion that you should stick with the sports threads and leave your crass, unfeeling, mean-spirited opinions there. Murder victims deserve better.

Great post, I couldn't agree more, hopefully your advice will be taken, good work !!:beer:

sonya

10-20-2008, 03:18 PM

You won't have to wonder.

The media will be following Jason and swarming all over him and you will be able to see it on Nancy , Greta, and Gerardo.

Right?

Maybe Dan, Larry, and Oprah, and Howard too!!
I mean, it is going to happen 2 days before the election, so I am sure everyone is on it!!

They are closing off streets and setting up road blocks in Brevard right now!!

Kat

You really have no place here, you are mocking the death of an innocent pregnant woman and that is attrocious behavior. Why post here, you have complete disdain for Meredith, mock Michelle and the case and LE's work on it, post garbage about the victims family and sing the praises of the one most suspected of her murder. The case is cold in your estimation, the cops inept, the posters don't argue enough to suit you and constantly "promise" you things that don't happen. Again, why are you here ? hammerhammer

sonya

10-20-2008, 03:26 PM

I think they are trying to shield her from hearing the trash that is spewed on here. They know that is what she would hear if LF were allowed around her. Remember the things that was said at the services. There are other on here that was there and they know what was said they just want to white wash it.

http://youngtragedy.blogspot.com/2007/08/fishers.html

Hmmm, I wonder if she hears the Youngs badmouthing her Grandmother, Aunt and who knows who else. Obviously, if they have cut off all contact with her maternal Grandmother (for who knows what BS reason) and Aunt, doubtful they are singing their praises. Who, exactly is shielding Cassidy from that smut ?
In addition, if Cassidy were old enough to read here, she would also read unending garbage about her grandmother, aunt, and anyone not related to Jason. Also, she would know who the losers are that accuse her beloved Aunt Meredith of murdering her mom. Who would shield her from that ?
:no:

sonya

10-20-2008, 03:30 PM

The JDI are angry because Jason, the husband and main target of Michelle murder investigation is refusing to talk. He has a right,but why is LF and MF, Michelle`s mom and sister MUM??? WHY?? They want to put pressure on LE let them do like Laci Peterson`s Mom and other Mom`s of murdered women do, get out go on national TV,get a PR person who knows how to get the publicity needed to get Michelle`s case out to the public. No,they let others plan memorials,make and sell Christmas ornaments,they can`t even get out and put together a decent reward. They have done absolutely NOTHING to help keep Michelle`s name in the news.
The JDI can blame Jason all day but if he did not do it,he did NOT do it. Jason can NOT get on the National news programs,he is a target, LF and MF can. WHY haven`t they? Don`t they want the public to be reminded that their daughter and sister is dead,beaten to death by someone who is a cold blooded murderer.
Michelle`s 2 year anniversary is coming up, Linda and Meredith should be on every national TV media they can. The media is NOT going to go after Michelle`s murderer if her own Mother and sister is unwilling to go public.
Linda and Michelle could have kept Michelle`s murder in the news,they could have,but they had to be willing to put their-self out in the public,just as other mother`s have. Let`s spread the blame folks.

Good morning E1.

Linda Fisher stated in a televised interview that she has been requested not to comment publically on this investigation, obviously by LE. Would you rather she ignore their request and possibly jeopardize the case ? Also, some people don't want to plaster their personal tragedy and grief all over the media, it's called refined and dignified. And, BTW the Lady Bug Lift Off, the Tree Planting Ceremony, Michelle's 30th Birthday Celebration and a church service and memorial were all planned by Linda Fisher, Meredith Fisher, Alan Fisher and other friends and family.
You really are uninformed, try reading the many articles on this girl and her murder.

5swab5

10-20-2008, 03:41 PM

Requiring a key card to exit would be somewhat disasterous in case of fire, wouldn't it?

Actually not.

Requiring a key card for exiting the building during normal circumstances does not preclude having "panic bars" on those very same doors.

MOO

Swabby

sonya

10-20-2008, 03:42 PM

I didn't insult you for posting the link. I merely pointed out the date it was last updated. You started with the insults immediately because you were shown to be a fool.

Thats interesting how you chopped off the rest of my statement. You did insult me, why ? Because, I didn't notice the date of an article on Michelle Youngs murder, you completely ignored the point I was trying to make. All you could see was 'oh my God, this person didn't notice the article is months old' and in your feeble mind that makes me a fool.
Trust me, every day on this board posters get some things like dates, names etc wrong. That makes them a fool ? You are the fool, and you continue to prove that everytime you post about this. hammer

sonya

10-20-2008, 03:49 PM

[QUOTE=annalyzer;12313599]The discussion happened. But go ahead and use the icon. It suits you well. As does this one ~ [/QUOTE

'you say' it happened, i don't see any proof (not that it matters). and i don't need your okay to use the icon. it's here for the using, supplied by the owners of this board. they must have anticipated posters like you when they installed it, huh ? hammer :biggrin: :biggrin:

sonya

10-20-2008, 03:50 PM

A quick review of your past posts tells it all. ;)

AND YOURS hammer:biggrin:

5swab5

10-20-2008, 03:51 PM

The victim was Michelle and her family was Jason and Cassie. Several here forget that.

Jason's behavior hardly qualifies him as concerned family.

Thank the Lord Michelle has real family that loved her and is still working for justice.

You are correct about Cassidy being a tho, victim. Twice!

First by the murders and secondly by Jason systematically removing her contact with Michelle's relatives.

Some father!

MOO

Swabby

Course it IS all about poor, poor Jason, always has been. Fugitabout Rlyan and Michelle in the cold dark ground.

sonya

10-20-2008, 03:53 PM

I was responding to "another" poster. Mind your own business. :no:

You need to control yourself, and stop with the idiotic baiting.

annalyzer

10-20-2008, 03:57 PM

Thats interesting how you chopped off the rest of my statement. You did insult me, why ? Because, I didn't notice the date of an article on Michelle Youngs murder, you completely ignored the point I was trying to make. All you could see was 'oh my God, this person didn't notice the article is months old' and in your feeble mind that makes me a fool.
Trust me, every day on this board posters get some things like dates, names etc wrong. That makes them a fool ? You are the fool, and you continue to prove that everytime you post about this. hammer

Try going back and reading the posts. I did not insult you. I merely pointed out the date of the last update on the article. YOU started in with your snide comments. I merely responded. YOU were shown to be a FOOL by posting an article from early 2007 as "news" in this case. Not my fault. :no:

annalyzer

10-20-2008, 03:59 PM

You need to control yourself, and stop with the idiotic baiting.

You post to me, I respond. Who's baiting? hammer

sonya

10-20-2008, 03:59 PM

What brings you here? You seem to never discuss the case, only other posters. :shrug:

As I've stated before, when I can discuss the case (which is rare because of posters like you fabricating, misrepresenting and just plain instigating) I post with the normal, compassionate people on this board. Plain and simple I just don't care for your "style/idea" of what posting on a message board is and usually when I see your "new names" I skip em. Have a day :biggrin:

annalyzer

10-20-2008, 04:01 PM

AND YOURS hammer:biggrin:

I agree you bring the worst out in me. You aren't worth my time. >click

sonya

10-20-2008, 04:03 PM

It speaks of a one man freak show? I imagine it sees one each morning while gluing its dentures to its gums. :lol:

JUSTICE FOR MICHELLE AND RYLAN - even the freakiest of freaks cannot derail justice.

:beer::lol:

5swab5

10-20-2008, 04:05 PM

Sounds highly sophisticated and expensive. What is the point of requiring the key card if there is a panic bar?

I'm just saying that the Hotel would have better knowledge of comings and goings, if you had to use a key card to get out as well as in the side doors.

Hitting the panic bar causes an alarm to go off, so there would always be a record of some kind, if a door was used.

MOO

Swabby

sonya

10-20-2008, 04:06 PM

I'm not able to feed your paranoia.

No, I've not insinuated I have inside information. Oh, well. John Mark Karr got his 15 minutes. So has RPD. The clock is ticking for you. Enjoy.:rolleyes:

Sure you have, one example would be those photos you "saw" of the murder scene (I believe you claimed to have seen them the first week after the murder). And you claim RPD is ghoulish for looking at the autopsy photos, whats the difference in your "claim" to have seen the MS photos ? Have you ever taken responsiblility for what you post, EVER ?

sonya

10-20-2008, 04:07 PM

Isn't that what always happens when the freaks insert themselves into these high profile cases? Attention is diverted from the victims into a sideshow. Look at what the Ramseys endured.

Kinda like what you have done here, on a much smaller scale ? :biggrin:

sonya

10-20-2008, 04:12 PM

I agree you bring the worst out in me. You aren't worth my time. >click

About time you take responsibility for your flawed personality, I don't bring ANYTHING OUT in you, your worst has been "out" as long as I've seen that nic of yours posting. Your argumentative, combatative temperment is all your problem not mine. You are absolutely ridiculous.

sonya

10-20-2008, 04:15 PM

She is making me tired harping about it. She did it I would think she would want it to die down.

Oh ya right, I am SOOO.......... embarassed that I posted a link for an article that was months old, oh my God how will I live with the shame of that ? Oh, I know, I could ask someone on here who has been proven to have LIED in their posts and see how they cope. Any ideas ?

5swab5

10-20-2008, 04:16 PM

Since you and Wyn know the Fisher's and talk to them why don't you ask them what happened in NY that caused Michelle to go to a therapist as soon as she got back home.

Let's see.

Michelle had lost a child and Jason did not accompany her to NY.

Michelle gets back and Jason sports his clan to a trip to California, even though money is tight. They have no heat upstairs, the burglar alarm is not activated and Michelle is having to wrestle with a malfunctioning garage door.

With such a considerate husband as Jason, I can't imagine why Michelle would want to vent.:shrug:

MOO

Swabby

AND, that doesn't even count, if Michelle knew about MM.

5swab5

10-20-2008, 04:25 PM

I'm still not sure what that would accomplish because I think the security camera aimed at the door is also there to record who comes in. I believe the camera didn't capture Jason re-entering the building because he never left it through that door. Another problem is that there is no record of Jason going in and out of his room door.

Those cameras may not be on a continuos loop, they may only take "snapshots" at certain intervals.

We just don't know, but I have a suspicion the latter is the case.

Sad, if the Hampton does everything on the cheap.

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

10-20-2008, 04:49 PM

Even if the camera took pics at intervals, the intervals would have to be frequent enough to track activity or it would be useless as a security device and they wouldn't bother with it at all.

I will not pretend to know what all LE knows.

For all I do know, the "rock in the lock" was just enough PC for the SW. I don't expect them to tell everything, even tho I would love a clue now and again.:D

On the very night that a guest's wife was brutally murdered and that same guest never used his keycard but once, yet was seen in the lobby an hour later....Someone could have turned cameras, or covered them up with a piece of tape.

We just don't know.

MOO

Swabby

annalyzer

10-20-2008, 04:54 PM

She is making me tired harping about it. She did it I would think she would want it to die down.

She's not the sharpest tool in the shed. lol

5swab5

10-20-2008, 04:57 PM

The system is a 14 camera, single tape VHS system with a multiplexer.
Each camera records on the same tape at 8 second intervals.

I have always suspected that LE has many more than the 3 grainy photos that they did released.

Makes no sense, long way from the front desk to the third floor and back down and outside OR back upstairs.

Gotta be more. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Jason, I don't think any of us believes he can teleport.

MOO

Swabby

5swab5

10-20-2008, 05:18 PM

They very well may have more, but they will all be 'grainy'.
Unfortunately, this B&W VHS is outdated compared to the new high res DVR systems purchased today.

I have never understood that.

Convenience Stores and Banks in particular have LONG histories of being robbed. Yet they continue to use outdated technology too. Makes no sense to me. Why bother doing something, if you aren't going to do it correct?

MOO

Swabby

HI_CYCLE

10-20-2008, 05:44 PM

The side camera records the hall, not the back stair doorway.
Go look at the still shots and you may be able to understand that.

There is a record of his key being used ONCE to enter his room, 6 minutes after checking in. He was seen at midnight OUT of his room.
What other proof that he was outside his room after opening the door do you need ?You are wrong. According to the SW,he used the card key one time to open the side door 6 minutes after checking in. We have NO idea how many times he used his card key to enter his room.:read: carefully.

HI_CYCLE

10-20-2008, 05:47 PM

Thats a little extreme isn't int June?
Why would anyone be interested in shutting down this board???!?
:lol::lol::lol:

5swab5

10-20-2008, 05:58 PM

I can read HC, apparently you have trouble.
It does not say he used the key to open the side door.

EXACTLY!

That is the problem I have been trying to address all day.

The key card is only necessary for ingress, not egress on the side doors.

Geeze.

MOO

Swabby

sonya

10-20-2008, 06:40 PM

Well then do us all a favor and shut up about it.

I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from Junie, did you want analyzer to quiet down ? maybe if you asked it nicely, but then you'd prolly need a class first in order to attempt "nice".

HI_CYCLE

10-20-2008, 06:45 PM

sonya

10-20-2008, 06:49 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3365337/

"Due to Jason Young's lack of cooperation, it became necessary for investigators to confirm his whereabouts during the evening of Nov. 2, 2006, and the early morning hours of Nov. 3, 2006," authorities wrote in the affidavit.

Sounds like LE confirmed JY whereabouts and that is why he has NOT been arrested.hammerhammer

OMG Analyzer will be calling you a fool next Hi C, didn't you notice the date on that link ? It doesn't like anything too outdated, maybe you could search for something more recent, I'd hate to see it blast you next, man.

Wyn

10-20-2008, 07:04 PM

Hey June, a couple of pages back you wanted to know why Meredith would go see a therapist after going to NY to visit her family and friends. Yes FAMILY. Her mother and sister are her FAMILY also. I guess if your daughter is married you no longer consider her family? Odd, but then so are you.

My guess is when Michelle went to NY she talked about the miscarriage, her bad marriage, and the accident where Jason managed to do something a speeder and a woman driving in the rain couldn't do.
Kind of "hinky" to have your husband ask you take your seat belt off and then he wrecks the car by running down an embankment into the river. And yet you STILL wonder why she would want to talk to someone impartial.

The JII's sure are testy this afternoon. You shouldn't worry. Even though the GJ meets tomorrow it's a waste of time to worry about something you have no control over. :shrug:

Barbara2

10-20-2008, 07:38 PM

It did NOT say he used the key to open his room "one Time".The statement on the SW that was being discussed was the side door.

Respectfully, you are wrong.

Cardinal

10-20-2008, 07:40 PM

The Wake County grand jury meets tomorrow. I continue to hope that there will be an indictment, and that, sooner rather than later, there will be justice for Michelle and Rylan.

:rose:

ITMT, everyone just continue with the free-for-all.

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 08:26 PM

Thats interesting how you chopped off the rest of my statement. You did insult me, why ? Because, I didn't notice the date of an article on Michelle Youngs murder, you completely ignored the point I was trying to make. All you could see was 'oh my God, this person didn't notice the article is months old' and in your feeble mind that makes me a fool.
Trust me, every day on this board posters get some things like dates, names etc wrong. That makes them a fool ? You are the fool, and you continue to prove that everytime you post about this. hammer

Wow, you posted a link to me to show that the case was not getting cold, only problem is the link was from last year.

:biggrin:

Kat

Barbara2

10-20-2008, 08:32 PM

Wow, you posted a link to me to show that the case was not getting cold, only problem is the link was from last year.

:biggrin:

Kat

I hope you can try and contain your gleeful giddiness over the thought that it is almost 2 years and the case is not solved because it really is upsetting to those who care about Michelle and what was done to her. Most, I hope, want her murderer in jail and do not celebrate the fact that the case has still not resulted in an arrest. IMO

Kat4Eagles

10-20-2008, 08:45 PM

[QUOTE=Barbara2;12315613]I hope you can try and contain your gleeful giddiness over the thought that it is almost 2 years and the case is not solved because it really is upsetting to those who care about Michelle and what was done to her. Most, I hope, want her murderer in jail and do not celebrate the fact that the case has still not resulted in an arrest. IMO[/QUOTE

Like posting on a Message Board is going to do anything. :rolleyes:

Nothing the JII's can post will halt an arrest.

Nothing the JDI's can post will expedite an arrest.

You guys have tried, unsuccessfully, I may add, to get Jason convicted, even if only on a Message Board.

Apparently, L E and some of us need more.

Hope this helps.

:shrug:

Kat