Michelle Young..Oct.4th.'til

[5swab5]

and you will continue to engage in your head-in-the-sand approach to a shoeprint two-sizes too small?

I wouldn't put ANYTHING past Jason Young!

Does that answer your question?

I hope so.

MOO

Swabby

[annalyzer]

:shrug:

It was the Lady Bug Memorial. And still is. No matter how you wish to help Kat cloak her disrespect.



I wasn't trying to help anyone. You're making a big deal out of nothing.

[5swab5]

Ah, yes, the Jason-and-only-Jason mindset requires you to ignore real evidence.

As opposed to anything and EVERYTHING that does point to Jason Lynn Young?

Laughable!

MOO

Swabby

[5swab5]

Nothing in the autopsy report points away from JY as the killer.
This talk about livor means nothing other than some blood settled in her posterior after many hours on a metal gurney awaiting the Saturday am autopsy. This poster is trying to suggest that Meredith turned the corpse on her back after the murder and then for some reason turned her to her stomach after about 8+ hours.

Yes, I know, the theory is preposterous.

Many know that.

What is of interest to me, is the way that people that don't even know Jason will twist or ignore KNOWN facts in their support of him.

Strange, if you ask me.

MOO

Swabby

[5swab5]

Howdy, swab. Geeze, you know, you really oughta go
back and check with your buds about the gift...
about it being late and all. Oh...while you're there,
ask how many gifts? Peachy keen.

==Kingcole

I'm sorry,

Perhaps you would now like to call JTF a liar too?

WHEN will the conspiracy against Jason Lynn Young end?

MOO

Swabby

[5swab5]

All I see that is laughable is your continuing denial of real evidence. Pretending evidence isn't important or doesn't exist won't make that evidence go away, try as you might.

A shoeprint two sizes too small does not point to Jason Young.

Posterior livor mortis on a body found face-down does not point to Jason Young.

Your sense of humor is a bit warped.

Evidence?

You aren't interested in evidence!

Find me that shirt!

Jason's mommie said that he didn't unload anything in Brevard. Where is the shirt?

WHO is LYING?

WHY?

MOO

Swabby

[Wyn]

I wasn't trying to help anyone. You're making a big deal out of nothing.

:shrug:

Not me, I just pointed out an error on Kat's part and you felt the need to jump in so then I had to correct you. Carry on.

"cough" "cough"

Looks like the virus is spreading.

[Wyn]

making a big deal out of nothing deflects the discussion away from real evidence..and lack thereof.

Yes, I can see by your need to comment on everything. hammer

[Wyn]

Howdy, swab. Geeze, you know, you really oughta go
back and check with your buds about the gift...
about it being late and all. Oh...while you're there,
ask how many gifts? Peachy keen.

==Kingcole

Maybe you should check with Jason. All he had was a printout. No gift(s). Probably no intention to purchase the purse since he had planned on NOT spending anymore holidays with Michelle. If you had the answer to any of the questions you told Swabby to check with her "buds" on, you wouldn't even have posted this. You can't snow everyone. Sorry. :shrug:

[Wyn]

As opposed to anything and EVERYTHING that does point to Jason Lynn Young?

Laughable!

MOO

Swabby


Don't you know, Swabby. Search warrants are used by LE these days to RULE OUT suspects.

[5swab5]

Why the need to speak so derisively of Jason's mother?

The reality is that a missing shirt isn't evidence of murder. If it were, the DA would have acted upon it a long time ago and made an arrest.

Accusing Jason's mother of lying is a bit low for you to go :no:

I am not accusing Jason's mother of lying about the shirt. I am saying that someone is LYING!!

The little matter of $500.00 in a new wallet that is magically missing is another deal entirely.

Where's the shirt?

MOO

Swabby

[Wyn]

Hey old "King Cole", did you check your closet yet? Are you missing any shoes? Did you purchase any Franklins in the past? You haven't lent any of your size tens to the Youngs have you?

[5swab5]

if Jason wears a size 12 shoe and the shoeprint is size 10, yes that is two sizes. It's a fairly simple calculation to most of us.

Only to the "linear" thinking.

MOO

Swabby

[5swab5]

Don't you know, Swabby. Search warrants are used by LE these days to RULE OUT suspects.


Dang!

I keep forgetting that.

MOO

Swabby

Wonder why, this is the first time that I have seen that drug out for an impromptu defense? Can you say desperate?

[5swab5]

You pretend to be a close friend of Michelle,
yet you don't know the answers? It could be
you are a fake. Whoops.

Nothing bad about that, of course. Many fakes on
the boards. Take it as a compliment. See? Not everybody
insults. Try it.

Your Friend,
Kingcole

I'm confident that Jason has now managed to come up with an Anniversary present. Did you contribute as well?

Day late and a dollar short!

MOO
Swabby

[5swab5]

No, not everything. With this exception, (due to the fact you are hitting me over the head) after posters alerted me to your use of multiple nics, I recently adopted a policy of scrolling on by all but one.:seeya:

PSA:


WYN,

This poster used this bait with me MONTHS ago and I bit.

Hold your tongue!

MOO

Swabby

[Wyn]

You pretend to be a close friend of Michelle,
yet you don't know the answers? It could be
you are a fake. Whoops.

Nothing bad about that, of course. Many fakes on
the boards. Take it as a compliment. See? Not everybody
insults. Try it.

Your Friend,
Kingcole

:lol:

The only one who "pretends" to be a friend of anyone is you. You pretend you knew Michelle, but you didn't. (You've gotten burned before by "assuming" haven't you?) Please feel free to point out when I've ever "pretended to be a close friend of Michelle". As I've told you before, I KNOW people who were, before Jason murdered her. You might want to write that down in your notebook because you keep forgetting.

We know the answers to the "gift", obviously you don't. Just ask Jason, better yet, ask to see the receipt(s).

Although I enjoy your "fake" solicitousness, I'm not looking for any new friends online, especially those who defend a murder suspect. Your former friends in Brevard might accept you again if you ever see the light.

[5swab5]

(respectfully snipped)
And as for the livor mortis, I am NOT taking your's or anyone's (JDI or JII) inferences and deductions from the autopsy reports as statement of fact. No one on here, as far as I am aware has the credentials to ascertain anything from that information. Thus, to keep stating it as fact is just a bit in vain.

Myself!

I anxiously await the battle of the experts at trial tho. Maybe Henry Lee "can" still be bought?

MOO

Swabby

[Wyn]

No, not everything. With this exception, (due to the fact you are hitting me over the head) after posters alerted me to your use of multiple nics, I recently adopted a policy of scrolling on by all but one.:seeya:




Gee, I only have one nic. Wonder who you still have me confused with? Please, do tell.

I just like this icon. hammer

[Wyn]

PSA:


WYN,

This poster used this bait with me MONTHS ago and I bit.

Hold your tongue!

MOO

Swabby


:biggrin: I know, she can't answer my questions anyway!

[5swab5]

More likely one of the 2 senile corpse doc's, Dr Wecht or Dr Baden.

I fear.

I also resent the FACT that testimony can be bought.

But, I must say, you get what you pay for.
:cuss:

MOO

Swabby

[Wyn]

No surprise there. Would you ever show consideration to any opinion that doesn't support the conclusion you've already drawn? Probably not.

The facts that Jason called Meredith that morning or that the shirt is missing or that Jason owned Hush Puppies haven't resulted in Jason's arrest, have they? Seems to me, if any one of the facts you cling to is evidence of murder, a grand jury would have indicted Jason by now.


It hasn't been presented to the GJ yet.

[5swab5]

No surprise there. Would you ever show consideration to any opinion that doesn't support the conclusion you've already drawn? Probably not.

The facts that Jason called Meredith that morning or that the shirt is missing or that Jason owned Hush Puppies haven't resulted in Jason's arrest, have they? Seems to me, if any one of the facts you cling to is evidence of murder, a grand jury would have indicted Jason by now.

Man,

RUDE has taken on a whole new attitude in here today, does Brevard know something that the rest of us don't?

MOO

Swabby

BTW, the GJ, can't do anything until the DA is satisfied, hope this helps.

[Wyn]

Toss your bait at someone else, I'm not interested.


Your accussations of multiple nics have gotten old. I'm not baiting you, I'm telling you to back up your false accussations or stop making them.

[Wyn]

Well there's another fake friend of Michelle. Howdy, swab. Go over and ask your Meredith bud about the gift. She'll set you straight. You betcha.

==Kingcole

When did Swabby declare herself a "friend" of Michelle's? You're the "fake" here. Pick up a phone and give your "bud" Jason a call and ask him to set you straight. Why do you keep trying to get posters on a message board to do your leg work for you?

[5swab5]

Well there's another fake friend of Michelle. Howdy, swab. Go over and ask your Meredith bud about the gift. She'll set you straight. You betcha.

==Kingcole

Sanctimonious, condescending posts never get very far with me.

MOO

Swabby

[5swab5]

Actually, I do show consideration. I agree the size 10 is a mystery, but there is also a shoe print that may not be a mystery is all I am saying. I was just giving items we know as fact that in a way do lend toward Jason being the killer. I am not equivocally saying he did it, but I am saying that if you tell me I musn't disregard the 10 size shoe...then the opposite is true -- you musn't disregard those things I listed.

As for the livor mortis discussion, yes I can and will disregard. Even if a JDI came up with it, I would disregard it. No one on here has the credentials to come to any factual conclusions about it.

Excellent Post!

:beer:

MOO

Swabby

[5swab5]

Well, MOO to you, too. Why do you keep asking
about the shirt? MOO.

The cops know about the shirt. I told them.
You know about the shirt. I told you. MOO.

What else you want to know? MOO.

==Kingcole


YOU haven't done ANYTHING except "run interference" for Jason for months, (MUCH to his detriment).

Shoo Fly, Don't Bother Me.
MOO
Swabby

[Kat4Eagles]

Now wyn, go easy on her.
She has had so many nics, she can't even remember who she is posting as at any given time.


Oh, please, this from someone who has been banned more than anyone in the history of Message Boards and makes up names to agree with himself and pat himself on the back.

CW know you are back, Bud?

Kat

Btw, there is a new thread Hi~C started for the weekend.
CW likes the thread capped at Page 15-16.
Could you all move over?
Thanxxx.

[Wyn]

Never turn down the offer of friendship, Wyn. Never.
A friend will show you solicitousness by gently
correcting your errors. Try 'gifts'.

==Kingcole

:lol:

I'm not in the market for any "fake friends". Try "questions".

[Wyn]

Well, MOO to you, too. Why do you keep asking
about the shirt? MOO.

The cops know about the shirt. I told them.
You know about the shirt. I told you. MOO.

What else you want to know? MOO.

==Kingcole

YOU told LE about the shirt? Don't you worry about being struck by lightening when you go outside? Everyone knows about the shirt, not because YOU told them. I'm sure you'd prefer NO ONE knew about the shirt.

I have something I'd like to know if you're actually going to answer a question with the truth. WHERE is the shirt?

[Wyn]

Oh, please, this from someone who has been banned more than anyone in the history of Message Boards and makes up names to agree with himself and pat himself on the back.

CW know you are back, Bud?

Kat

Btw, there is a new thread Hi~C started for the weekend.
CW likes the thread capped at Page 15-16.
Could you all move over?
Thanxxx.


There seems to be one of your buds that keeps coming back but you never complain to CW to repeatedly kick them off for no reason. Why not? (Mimi, fireflies, celiarun, reinya) Why the lack of fairness? Thanxxxxx.

[Kat4Eagles]

Now wyn, go easy on her.
She has had so many nics, she can't even remember who she is posting as at any given time.


This is not your post, Bud?

Don't be shocked, if we get locked down for the weekend.

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Did Kat4eagles again tell CW "Bud" was back ?
The problem with your latest tattle is that it is simply not true.
Not only have I NOT broken a TOS rule, I am NOT who you think I am.

Unfortunately, I know not only who you are, but what you are.

:(
Kat

[5swab5]

Did Kat4eagles again tell CW "Bud" was back ?
The problem with your latest tattle is that it is simply not true.
Not only have I NOT broken a TOS rule, I am NOT who you think I am.


Sadly, it won't matter.

Once the tattle-tales tattle, it is taken as gospel.

MOO

Swabby

I have a friend that MOVED from Ohio to FL, got a new IP and was banned under the very same suspicion. Nothing fair about any of it.

[5swab5]

This is not your post, Bud?

Don't be shocked, if we get locked down for the weekend.

Kat

THAT would be fair!

Certainly would curtail all the excuses for Jason Lynn Young and the morphing of the evidence, that some of us are forced to fight "day and night", "night and day".

MOO

Swabby

[Wyn]

This is not your post, Bud?

Don't be shocked, if we get locked down for the weekend.

Kat


Why would CW lock the thread for Arwen posting something about another poster that is true. She's had more reincarnations than a cat has lives. :shrug:

[5swab5]

(snipped) Meanwhile, there is a bloody shoeprint that hasn't been tied in any way whatsoever to Jason Young and livor mortis on the posterior of a body found face-down. Real evidence that doesn't point at all to Jason Young even though you want it to.

We have ALL suffered thu the bloody footprints.

What makes more sense to you? That TWO people at the crime scene stepped on the same pillow, Jason changed shoes OR that one footprint was planted??

Serious question.

MOO

Swabby

[Wyn]

Of course you think the HP print was planted.
Any evidence pointing to JY must be planted or fabricated in your book.

btw, were is the pullover shirt ?
Can't be planted or fabricated cause it has never been found.

You know, I asked "King Cole" where the shirt was earlier when he was bragging about his influence on the "cops" and he still hasn't answered. Wonder why? Do you think he's gone over to talk to Jason and find out? Nah. Guess not.

[5swab5]

I'll give you a serious answer. What makes the most sense to me is that the killer wore the Franklins. I think the killer put the Franklins back on outside on the deck.

I think the Hush Puppie print was planted. If Jason hired a killer, wouldn't a good way for the killer to ensure Jason's silence be to leave something to implicate Jason?


WOW!

I like the way you think...sometimes,;) but why was the Franklin print embedded in the stain/sealer on the deck?

MOO

Swabby

[5swab5]

I'll give you a serious answer. What makes the most sense to me is that the killer wore the Franklins. I think the killer put the Franklins back on outside on the deck.

I think the Hush Puppie print was planted. If Jason hired a killer, wouldn't a good way for the killer to ensure Jason's silence be to leave something to implicate Jason?


Sorry to bump your post twice.

I am not picking on you! When I try to edit, I am kicked back to '04.

But I thought of something else.

Why would the killer put one set of shoes on the deck at all?

IF true, why weren't all of the shoes left there?

MOO

Swabby

IF your theory is true, there is ONE hungry assassin out there.

[5swab5]

Cold cases thread? I do believe that's where she wants this case to be placed. IMO

Can't speak for certain posters, CW or her rules, but for certain Brevardians, I am sure that "Cold Case" would fit their agenda perfectly!

NOT ON MY WATCH!

MOO

Swabby

[Kat4Eagles]

Can't speak for certain posters, CW or her rules, but for certain Brevardians, I am sure that "Cold Case" would fit their agenda perfectly!

NOT ON MY WATCH!

MOO

Swabby

Well, Budwiser aka RPD says there will be no arrest by Nov 2-3, and I know how you all believe in him, cause everything he has posted has come true....just like magic.!!!

So, he must still be here, you think?

As for the shirt, it is really simple.

Jason had some dirty clothes in the back of the car, they could have fallen out, or were left somewhere on their hurried travels back to Raleigh.

You can not go looking for a shirt a year and a half after the fact.

Works for me, and must be working for Jay too.

:biggrin:

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Yes i think your right. They would love to see this as a COLD CASE not gonna happen.



Except for a 5-10 segment on Greta a few months back, and a few message board diehards, who exactly is going to keep this case alive and in the news?

Thanxxx.
:)

Kat

[5swab5]

Yes i think your right. They would love to see this as a COLD CASE not gonna happen.

Certainly not as long as the file is in the paws of Wake County's District Attorney's Office!

MOO

Swabby

[Wyn]

Well, Budwiser aka RPD says there will be no arrest by Nov 2-3, and I know how you all believe in him, cause everything he has posted has come true....just like magic.!!!

So, he must still be here, you think?

As for the shirt, it is really simple.

Jason had some dirty clothes in the back of the car, they could have fallen out, or were left somewhere on their hurried travels back to Raleigh.

You can not go looking for a shirt a year and a half after the fact.

Works for me, and must be working for Jay too.

:biggrin:

Kat




Bingo!! You got it!! Works for me too! He LEFT them SOMEWHERE along the way TO Brevard.

:beer:

[Kat4Eagles]

Certainly not as long as the file is in the paws of Wake County's District Attorney's Office!

MOO

Swabby

......and, what exactly are they doing with it, again?

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Bingo!! You got it!! Works for me too! He LEFT them SOMEWHERE along the way TO Brevard.

:beer:


Brevard to Raleigh......

By the way, why did Jason bring his car back to Raleigh,if that was the car he drove in after the murder, the one with the blood spots.?

:rolleyes:

Kat

[5swab5]

(snipped)

As for the shirt, it is really simple.

Jason had some dirty clothes in the back of the car, they could have fallen out, or were left somewhere on their hurried travels back to Raleigh.

You can not go looking for a shirt a year and a half after the fact.

Works for me, and must be working for Jay too.

:biggrin:

Kat


RiiiiigHT!

The whole family learns of Michelle's BRUTAL murder and decides to do Jason's laundry, before they start their pilgrimage back to Raleigh. What a family? Clean, HUH?

As an Alternative:

NOW, I am to believe, that not only did they HANG UP on LE in transit, but that they left the "tailgate" open on the trip back to Raleigh, so Jason's laundry fell out?

Pick a lane!

Remember...PAT "said" that nothing was removed from Jason's vehicle. Where's the shirt? We have a picture of it, with him IN it, LE confiscated his belongings as soon as he FINALLY hit Raleigh...WHERE is the shirt?

SOMEONE IS LYING...YOU PICK!

MOO!

Swabby

[Wyn]

Except for a 5-10 segment on Greta a few months back, and a few message board diehards, who exactly is going to keep this case alive and in the news?

Thanxxx.
:)

Kat

The people you dislike the most, the ones who know Jason is guilty. Don't worry, it'll be on the news again in about another week, week and a half.

[Wyn]

Brevard to Raleigh......

By the way, why did Jason bring his car back to Raleigh,if that was the car he drove in after the murder, the one with the blood spots.?

:rolleyes:

Kat

Don't you think it would look suspicious NOT to bring it back? You do realize he had ALL day on his trip to Brevard to clean it the best he could. And unless he was really stupid, he used plastic bags before he placed his shirt, etc. in the SUV. Pretty elementary. :rolleyes:

ETA: Sorry you're wrong on the Brevard to Raleigh, or do YOU really think his family is also involved and helped dispose of the shirt?

[Kat4Eagles]

I wasn't addressing the dimensions of the prints on the pillow, I was addressing the dimensions of the Hush puppie shoe Jason purchased (size 12) and the distinct impression of the Franklin shoe sole left on the pillow (10).



They don't get it, 2 years later and they just don't get it.

It has been one excuse after another, they were building a solid case with the mountains of circumstantial evidence they had, they needed to go back to the house just one more time, they needed something else, just one more piece..:rolleyes:

They had a tip line, they offered a reward, they had it all.

Everything but a case.

:)

Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

[QUOTE=Wyn;12264772]Don't you think it would look suspicious NOT to bring it back? You do realize he had ALL day on his trip to Brevard to clean it the best he could. And unless he was really stupid, he used plastic bags before he placed his shirt, etc. in the SUV. Pretty elementary. :rolleyes:
QUOTE]


Jay had a perfectly good excuse for not bringing his car back.
Umm, his wife had died, and he wasn't up to driving.

Could have given someone a chance to clean it even better, if it needed to be..

Sorry, 2 killers and one of them was not Jason Young.

Hope this helps.


Kat

[Kat4Eagles]

Not necessarily lying at all. We don't know the question LE asked his mother, we only know her part of the answer they put on the search warrant. Jason may have changed into clothes he brought with him and that wouldn't be quite the same thing as removing something from the car and leaving it behind in Brevard. I don't believe his mother has intentionally lied or covered for Jason or in any way conspired with him.


Let them keep working on it.

At least, now we know "for sure", cause the DA and LE told a poster here, that there is not going to be an arrest by Nov2~3rd.

:biggrin:

Kat

[5swab5]

They don't get it, 2 years later and they just don't get it.

It has been one excuse after another, they were building a solid case with the mountains of circumstantial evidence they had, they needed to go back to the house just one more time, they needed something else, just one more piece..:rolleyes:

They had a tip line, they offered a reward, they had it all.

Everything but a case.

:)

Kat

As much as you would like to deny it, "Circumstantial evidence" holds UP much better than "Direct evidence" in a court and in appeals.

People can "get it" wrong, Science doesn't lie.

It IS what it is!

MOO

Swabby

Where is all of the foreign DNA at Birchleaf? Surely a random burglar would have shed ONE single skin cell!

[5swab5]

[QUOTE=Wyn;12264772]Don't you think it would look suspicious NOT to bring it back? You do realize he had ALL day on his trip to Brevard to clean it the best he could. And unless he was really stupid, he used plastic bags before he placed his shirt, etc. in the SUV. Pretty elementary. :rolleyes:
QUOTE]


Jay had a perfectly good excuse for not bringing his car back.
Umm, his wife had died, and he wasn't up to driving.

Hope this helps.


Kat


I find it OFFENSIVE (again...sigh) that you use an unfamiliar term to the rest of the posters, when refering to Jason Lynn Young. To Wit: Jay
I was under the impression that we are to ONLY call the players by their "given names"?

MOO

Swabby

Where's Da Shirt?

[5swab5]

I have to agree they can't go looking for a shirt a year and a half after the fact and expect to find it.


Perpetuating Propaganda, again?

LE WAS waiting on the entourage, they DID confiscate everything.

Pat said everything was there.

Who is LYING?

MOO

Swabby

[5swab5]

Not necessarily lying at all. We don't know the question LE asked his mother, we only know her part of the answer they put on the search warrant. Jason may have changed into clothes he brought with him and that wouldn't be quite the same thing as removing something from the car and leaving it behind in Brevard. I don't believe his mother has intentionally lied or covered for Jason or in any way conspired with him.


I'm sorry,

Believe what you must, but after seeing her "display" at Michelle & Rylan's funeral. PLUS her own very own word on tape, she is as complicate as anyone.

MOO

Swabby

[5swab5]

[QUOTE=agathachristie;12265092]

IIRC, other posters have been banned for that, haven't they?


OMG! My posts are being removed! I am down to 2 now!!!

Goodness,

Who is next?

Hopefully JAY!

MOO

Swabby