Saturday, 10/4 - Day 110

[Cury-us Coyote]

They can drop them in the middle of the trial if they want to.

Thanks. IF the attorney immunity email exchange is NOT part of evidence, why was it released to the public? Apparently the email senders and receivers knew the content? Was the intent to show the state’s cooperation, and/or to reveal untruths and/or to elicit a response or to sway public opinion? Seems odd, IMO.

[bhardy1956]

I disagree. I think Cindy was afraid to call police BECAUSE she knew her daughter was stealing. I do not think they would have called the police if the car had not been found. I think she would have kept playing the game......the game was more important than Caylee, as we all see and agonize over on this board.

ITA, if it hadn't been for the car being abandon and towed to the imbound, this wouldn't have been news for a least another 2 weeks than what it did. IMO, I would believe Cindy would have given Casey 2 more weeks to bring Caylee back. Then Caylee would have been missing for an extra 2 weeks causing more difficulties to this case. IMO

[impartial]

Do you happen to know if those cases were argued successfully and/or resulted in an appeal or new trial? TIA.


I can't remember, sorry.

[protectkidz]

It absolutely astonishes me that Cindy would treat Tim Miller the way she's been treating him... then again, she treats the media, the cops and the public in the exact same manner.

I just think if I had a family member missing, most likely dead, how I would use ANY and ALL airtime I could get to my loved ones face on the TV, in the newspaper, on the internet... and I would beg and plead with TES to come and help... and the cops, too.

The behavior of this family is VERY telling, imo. Didn't Tim Miller say that he had NEVER in all his years with TES ..dealt with a family intent on him NOT helping?

Their behavior speaks VOLUMES.

you've got that completely right!

Cindy has shown herself to be controlling, shrewish, disdainful of LE, a sneak, a liar of the first degree, and a manipulator of the public's sympathy.

She isn't out there yelling at reporters and protesters anymore, I don't think - not since the docs started being released week before last and we all got a good look at her true lies.

Her disrespect of Tim Miller is extremely telling.

No grandma wants to be in a position of their little grandchild being left to rot by their own daughter - but it is what it is and Cindy Anthony just is not able to see how she wasn't able to snow the cops and the world.

Re: the Michele chick from Helping Heroes. She's just THICK.

I can't imagine how any organization helping the Anthonys can not see how their reputation is going to be in the can due to this.

imo.

[MichelleP]

I have a question is there some new information about Cindy and TES? Has Cindy said something to Tim? Sorry I tried to look for a link and I can't find anything about it. Thank you.

[day2day]

It's my opinion that the Anthonys are dreading anyone finding Caylee. They know Casey killed her and they are just so afraid that there might be some evidence of the violence still there, IMO.

Yep-they know when she is found...its checkmate! jmo

[protectkidz]

Beary says that he sees this case being wrapped up by his department before he retires in less than 3 months.

I can easily see severe charges regarding Caylee's disappearance brought against Casey before any of the other cases begin deliberations, in which they could delay - I would think.

Hurry Beary!!

[Roux]

I have a question is there some new information about Cindy and TES? Has Cindy said something to Tim? Sorry I tried to look for a link and I can't find anything about it. Thank you.

Look back on page 4 of this thread for the link to purported emails

[tiny paw-prints]

June 27 2008
Caylee was at the beach with Nanny and Grandma.

Did Cindy and Zanny take Caylee to the beach on that day?

[day2day]

Since there is no nanny and Cindy has stated that she never took Caylee to the beach, they had only discussed doing so sometime, I think the answer to that is No.

Didn't Cindy testify at the bond hearing that the (imaginary) Nanny had watched Caylee for a year and a half ...(wouldn't that be perjury?!)

:shrug:

[Albini]

Up until I read what Cindy said about Tim Miller I had some semblance of sympathy for them.

I still do for George in a way. I think he is stuck. I think he knows the truth, but knowing it destroys his family, so he goes into denial mode. He stands to lose everything.

Cindy, after reading what I did about her accuation of Tim Miller, I have no sympathy for her. I really want to. I dont think anyone should lose thier grandchild in this manner. It pains me.

But she seems like a posion vine. She wraps people in her words and accuasations uncaring to what it does.

And none of it seems directed at Casey.

I do believe she loved Caylee. No doubt.

But she (IMO) has written Caylee off as dead and has moved her full focus on saving the only girl child left in her family.

I dont know if its shame, slefishness or just plain denial. But it isnt helping Caylee. And it sure isnt winning her any awards.

[WillowInFlight]

Didn't Cindy testify at the bond hearing that the (imaginary) Nanny had watched Caylee for a year and a half ...(wouldn't that be perjury?!)

:shrug:

Would it be if she was saying that because that is what she believed due to what Casey told her?

[Albini]

The last statement that I knew of Beary making was that he'd like for this case to be wrapped up before his January retirement - which is a huge difference than what you're claiming that he said.

Beary being able to credit himself with a high profile case solved & closed may be the very reason they're pushing so hard for Caylee being dead rather than alive.

I can not imagine anyone is PUSHING for Caylee to be dead. There was evidence of decomp in Caseys car. I dont think that is pushing for Caylee to be dead. I think its some strong evidence that she is, regardless of anyones personal agenda.

If they were truely pushing for Caylee to be dead then they would have called off any search for a live Caylee, which they havent b/c LE is still publically following up on tips.

[WillowInFlight]

The last statement that I knew of Beary making was that he'd like for this case to be wrapped up before his January retirement - which is a huge difference than what you're claiming that he said.

Beary being able to credit himself with a high profile case solved & closed may be the very reason they're pushing so hard for Caylee being dead rather than alive.
I think they are pushing so hard for Caylee being dead is because they know she is.

[margaret kep]

I'm not sure anything can scare Cindy.


:biggrin: I bet a couple of police cruisers and paddy wagon driving up their driveway would. They could always say they were lost or checking an address. I know....just wishing.

[st777jo]

Would it be if she was saying that because that is what she believed due to what Casey told her?

Didn't Cindy say that whenever Casey went out Cindy watched her?

[bhardy1956]

For you to think that Caylee's is the only body in the entire world who could have been in that trunk is just plain silly.

Would you continue to question this statement, if the DNA was a dead Caylee? Hate to speak those words, but would you?

[desmom]

The Caylee Anthony Story – An Editors View

http://www.bloggernews.net/118028

[st777jo]

For you to think that Caylee's is the only body in the entire world who could have been in that trunk is just plain silly.

Did I just read that right????

[WillowInFlight]

At least it makes sense. IMO, you're grasping at straws if you think someone else's dead body was in the trunk. Good grief.

LOL ITA, that was a silly thing to say.

[protectkidz]

The last statement that I knew of Beary making was that he'd like for this case to be wrapped up before his January retirement - which is a huge difference than what you're claiming that he said.

Beary being able to credit himself with a high profile case solved & closed may be the very reason they're pushing so hard for Caylee being dead rather than alive.

Oh my goodness, I can't believe I claimed that - what a dumb azz I am.

Yes, he said that he is "hopeful".

Big difference and I am so sorry - but glad you were able to catch it right away.

I did really like what he said about the new evidence coming up. Can't wait for it!

Surprises never end with this case and OCSO is way farther with the case than I ever expected they would get.

I have no doubt that Casey will (at least) be spending the rest of her life in prison.

[Albini]

For you to think that Caylee's is the only body in the entire world who could have been in that trunk is just plain silly.

WTH? Who elses body would it have been? Caylee is missing. There was a dead body in her mothers car. Casey says she doesnt know where her daughter is.

Who elses body would it have been? Its not my Grandfathers nor the president of the united states. Maybe Jimmy Hoffa????


Sorry, not buying the paraniod conspircy theory.

I think you owe her an apology for calling her silly when the facts support her claim, not yours.

[Mint_Julep]

I don't know if they are legit - I could see Cindy sending them, just another way for her to talk.

I notice they were sent/received? with squirrel email. ( Squirrel email http://caerdydd.ac.uk/insrv/it/comms/squirrelmail/index.html ) is available for students of Cardiff University, "one of Britain’s major teaching and research universities. Located in the centre of the capital city of Wales, it has an international reputation for the quality of its work which attracts staff and students from around the world."

Is anyone else familiar with squirrel e-mail?

This probably O/T, but I found it interesting.

JMO

I use Squirrel e-mail daily. It's great for filtering out e-mail before it gets to Eudora.

I believe Cindy will use any available opportunity to talk no matter what her lawyer says. I'll bet he has never had a client like her before!

Speaking of the attorney, have they ever explained why they hired a CRIMINAL attorney rather than one that practices in other fields?

[protectkidz]

I can not imagine anyone is PUSHING for Caylee to be dead. There was evidence of decomp in Caseys car. I dont think that is pushing for Caylee to be dead. I think its some strong evidence that she is, regardless of anyones personal agenda.

If they were truely pushing for Caylee to be dead then they would have called off any search for a live Caylee, which they havent b/c LE is still publically following up on tips.

I agree.

In fact, for LE to state rather than theorize in a missing case makes it clear to me that they have evidence of death.

And although personal agendas could be part of the dynamics of any case, this case is well-monitored by more than one person and more than one agency.

[Rayosunshine]

Nothing turned up yet in the search for Caylee?

Am amazed that Casey could have carried out everything she supposedly did, and no one saw or knows anything.

Wonder, did she do the things to Caylee that she is accused of in broad daylight or at night?

I think more than one of the players in the scenario knows something.

[desmom]

For you to think that Caylee's is the only body in the entire world who could have been in that trunk is just plain silly.

Is there someone else in Casey's circle missing? TIA

[islandgirl36542]

wonder if Cindy had a prescription for xanax & if so for how long

[bhardy1956]

OT ~ It's funny how it is so incredibly fast how these boards move when you are trying to catch up, but when you do, it goes soooooo slow!!! LOL! Come on people, please post quickly!! A BIG JK!

Carry on, you all are great! :beer:

[Rayosunshine]

Would you continue to question this statement, if the DNA was a dead Caylee? Hate to speak those words, but would you?

What DNA? Do you mean mitochondrial DNA? There is a big difference here. I don't think they can tell the difference between dead or live DNA.

[KKKKKKatie]

At least it makes sense. IMO, you're grasping at straws if you think someone else's dead body was in the trunk. Good grief.
I am 60 years old and been driving since I was 16. Never once have I had a dead body in the trunk of my car....go figure :rolleyes:

[Albini]

Is there someone else in Casey's circle missing? TIA

Nope, no one else.

Most of us dont go driving around with mysterious dead bodies in our trunks.

To even suggest it was someone elses is reaching beyond logic.

Even if someone else WAS in Casey's car, the main suspect would still be Casey. But since no one else in Caseys circle of friends or enimies has disapered besides her own child..logic dictates that the body was Caylees.

[protectkidz]

I just read those emails, and it does sound like Cindy, ie the need to get "the last word in", the need to accuse TES of stealing so soon after we all found out SHE takes 200 dollars out of Casey's wallet when she knows it is probably Amy's.

I just read those (thanks to day2day for bringing them over) and I sent them on to someone who will be interested in seeing them.

Added to some of what I've heard already about Tim/Cindy, I have no doubt that they are legit.

And I agree, she seems to try to deflect her own actions by accusing others of stuff - and in this case what a bunch of b.s. imo.

(and OCSO didn't know TES until she brought them in? What a complete crock. Of course they know them).

[margaret kep]

June 27 2008
Caylee was at the beach with Nanny and Grandma.

Did Cindy and Zanny take Caylee to the beach on that day?


:DNawh, heck no. Zani was with George. Cindy and Casey were at the beach sponsering a "Hot Bod Contest".........................I hope I don't get time out for this.

[Rayosunshine]

I am 60 years old and been driving since I was 16. Never once have I had a dead body in the trunk of my car....go figure :rolleyes:

I couldn't fit one in mine - it's filled with supplies for my job.

[5boxersmom]

I would love to see Cindy have to answer questions with a yes or no answer. She would not be able to go into a long explanation. I bet she couldn't do it.:)

jmo

[Pruddennce]

ITA, if it hadn't been for the car being abandon and towed to the imbound, this wouldn't have been news for a least another 2 weeks than what it did. IMO, I would believe Cindy would have given Casey 2 more weeks to bring Caylee back. Then Caylee would have been missing for an extra 2 weeks causing more difficulties to this case. IMO

Cindy A tells LE in her interview with them:

"you are 2.5 weeks LATE!"

LE: Cindy, IT IS 6.5 weeks....

Cindy A: well, from my perspective.....

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=CAPART4_092620081104&cat=Local&title=Cindy%20Anthony%20Interview%20Part%204

the usual Cindy skewed way of thinging: she eliminates the time her daughter NEVER REPORTED caylee missing. now she's chastising LE.....

the audacity.

you are correct. If they would have never been notified of the car, or it was never abandoned by Casey, they still would have been sitting on their hands 'waiting' for her to bring Caylee home to see them.

just like they waited and waited for a month, watching food disappear from their home, credit cards stolen, and most importantly: Caylee's room was never touched to bring her necessities, clothing, toys, NOTHING <-----------fact.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[protectkidz]

What DNA? Do you mean mitochondrial DNA? There is a big difference here. I don't think they can tell the difference between dead or live DNA.

imo, if the fluids they harvest the DNA from have been confirmed as decomposition fluids, and if the DNA is Caylee's, it stands to reason that the decomp fluid is hers and she's dead.

[Regina.Lampert]

For you to think that Caylee's is the only body in the entire world who could have been in that trunk is just plain silly.

Oh yeah, WE'RE the silly ones! :tongue:

[Rayosunshine]

To my knowledge a doctor doesnt write prescriptionS for xanax. Xanax is very addictive...I have had scripts written for 30 pills..no refills ever.

If a refill was prescribed I'd think it would be for a good reason.

Not sure I follow: "..a doctor doesn't write prescriptions for xanax."

[nc1948]

For you to think that Caylee's is the only body in the entire world who could have been in that trunk is just plain silly.


Any idea of who else Casey might have killed?

[bhardy1956]

What DNA? Do you mean mitochondrial DNA? There is a big difference here. I don't think they can tell the difference between dead or live DNA.

It's been reported that the band around the root of hair found can determine if the hair was from a dead person or a live person.

Link: http://www.wftv.com/news/17315205/detail.html

[day2day]

The Caylee Anthony Story – An Editors View

http://www.bloggernews.net/118028

Thanks desmom....i think many share his view!

[Magnum357]

For you to think that Caylee's is the only body in the entire world who could have been in that trunk is just plain silly.

Any dead body in someone's trunk wouldn't be a good thing.

Who else has a connection to Casey and is missing? Zaney? Nope--she doesn't exist. Caylee is the only one, so the dead body in the trunk was C-----. (Fill in the blank)

Now behave yourself. :hat:

[KKKKKKatie]

Dead bodies in the trunk do wonders for masking the smell of those nasty squirrels under the hood and tow along road kill. No air freshner works near as well.


I will spread the word :D

[Albini]

At my local car was/ auto spa there are 2 lines, one is for normal wash and clean/ vac job, etc.
And the other line has a sign that says "Damn! Found another dead body in my car this week!... "The Works"

I think the apology is in order too. Lets see what happens.:rolleyes:

OMG< I spit my drink out. That was too funny.

I cant wrap my head around anyone thinking that there was some strangers dead body in the trunk, when Caylee is missing. It would be the biggest coincidence in the world if it was true.

[protectkidz]

Is there someone else in Casey's circle missing? TIA

OMG!!!

If another body was in that trunk, that would mean that Casey is responsible for TWO murders!!

She really IS up a creek.

[day2day]

June 27 2008
Caylee was at the beach with Nanny and Grandma.

Did Cindy and Zanny take Caylee to the beach on that day?

Cindy said in her interview that she had never taken Caylee to the beach-so i have no clue..:shrug:

Did Casey take her there?! :eek:

[nc1948]

To my knowledge a doctor doesnt write prescriptionS for xanax. Xanax is very addictive...I have had scripts written for 30 pills..no refills ever.

If a refill was prescribed I'd think it would be for a good reason.

My son is on Xanax and you are right. No refills. Must go to Dr once a month to get new prescription. I am not saying no Dr. writes prescription with refills, just my personal experience.

[TxLady2]

To my knowledge a doctor doesnt write prescriptionS for xanax. Xanax is very addictive...I have had scripts written for 30 pills..no refills ever.

If a refill was prescribed I'd think it would be for a good reason.

You can buy Xanax or any other prescription drug online without a prescription through Mexico or Canada. Possibly other countries as well.

[Rayosunshine]

[QUOTE=protectkidz;12232473]imo, if the fluids they harvest the DNA from have been confirmed as decomposition fluids, and if the DNA is Caylee's, it stands to reason that the decomp fluid is hers and she's dead.[/QUOT


I don't recall reading or hearing that the DNA was confirmed as Caylee's from the "stain" in the trunk.

I do remember reading that "a source" close the the investigation gave some info to the media, and that was long before LE mentioned that the results were being triple checked, and I think that was about 1 week ago - first think I thought of was the scientific method - triple-checked.

[protectkidz]

Oh yeah, WE'RE the silly ones! :tongue:

:D

thanks for the laugh - I needed it.

[tiny paw-prints]

Didn't Cindy say that whenever Casey went out Cindy watched her?

IIRC, Cindy told Tim Miller that Casey left Caylee with someone she trusted.

[margaret kep]

Oh yeah, WE'RE the silly ones! :tongue:

Does Daddy'sGirl know there were two bodies decomposing in Casey's car?:confused: I wasn't awarethere were two bodies with one decomp dna?:shrug:

[Rayosunshine]

You can buy Xanax or any other prescription drug online without a prescription through Mexico or Canada. Possibly other countries as well.

It's a scheduled drug in the U.S. I know you can buy same on line, but it is illegal to do so. If you are caught in possesion of Xanax without a prescription, you are in possession of an illegal drug. If I am caught with Xanax without a prescription, or test positive for same, I lose my RN license.
If you are tested positive for Xanax and do not have a prescription, you wouldn't get the job, or you would be fired. Worse yet, don't get into an accident and be found to test positive without a prescription.

Problem is, the drug trade has gotten so big, no one has figured out a way to do anything about it.

[WillowInFlight]

So under your premise, then it just simply never happens, right?

Wrong, and it happens with people who are not a 2 year old named Caylee.
Yes but we are talking about the Caylee case.

[Albini]

So under your premise, then it just simply never happens, right?

Wrong, and it happens with people who are not a 2 year old named Caylee.



God this is just disgusting. You are treating this like some big game and you want to win. Who the he$$ was in the car and where is Caylee? You dont know anymore then the rest of us. We just choose not to be dramatic and obstinante and follow the logical conclusion that this poor angel is dead.

You know it wasnt Caylee? Then who was it?

You can NOT say it wasnt Caylee. :flamemad:

[day2day]

I would love to see Cindy have to answer questions with a yes or no answer. She would not be able to go into a long explanation. I bet she couldn't do it.:)

jmo

I don't think she can do it. It ought to be REAL hard for her on the witness stand -when she can't blame -tom, dick and harry. I can't wait to see it.

jmo

[protectkidz]

[QUOTE=protectkidz;12232473]imo, if the fluids they harvest the DNA from have been confirmed as decomposition fluids, and if the DNA is Caylee's, it stands to reason that the decomp fluid is hers and she's dead.[/QUOT


I don't recall reading or hearing that the DNA was confirmed as Caylee's from the "stain" in the trunk.

I do remember reading that "a source" close the the investigation gave some info to the media, and that was long before LE mentioned that the results were being triple checked, and I think that was about 1 week ago - first think I thought of was the scientific method - triple-checked.

no, they haven't made the decomp results public.

And I was replying to your post which read:

"What DNA? Do you mean mitochondrial DNA? There is a big difference here. I don't think they can tell the difference between dead or live DNA."

So yes, the DNA which they find of Caylee's can conclude that she's dead.

[day2day]

God this is just disgusting. You are treating this like some big game and you want to win. Who the he$$ was in the car and where is Caylee?

You know it wasnt Caylee? Then who was it?

You can NOT say it wasnt Caylee. :flamemad:

This is the same poster that only a few days ago swore that Mr. Grund was goin on Nancy Grace to tell the world "sammy" has Caylee out there somewhere.. The only thing is-most of us who read his blog-knows that Sammy was a dog and he is in heaven -with Caylee. :shrug:

[Mint_Julep]

Some people eat squirrels!!! Hunt them down, take them home and eat them!!! We sure see a lot LESS of them around here......
hammer

Thanks KC!!

With homemade biscuits and milk gravy I hope. ;)

Sorry, back on topic.

I've felt for a long time that George is LE's biggest hope for someone to break. I don't like some of the things he's said and IMO HE doesn't like some of the things he's said. One of these days he may tell Cindy to take a looong walk and he may spill whatever he knows. JMHO

[Magnum357]

So under your premise, then it just simply never happens, right?

Wrong, and it happens with people who are not a 2 year old named Caylee.

Do you happen to have any statistics as to how many people have dead bodies in their trunks?

Would you say 1 in 10? 1 in 100? 1 in 1000?

And in that group of special people, how many know the person who is dead in their trunk? How many of them had something to do with the death of the person in their trunk?

I'm just not all that familiar with dead people in trunks. As a matter of fact, I've never even known of anyone that had a dead body in their trunk. I need to get out more.

[Rayosunshine]

You can go down to the local street corner and get them as well. I was discussing a doctor and a prescription for them.

If you buy Xanax on the street corner in the U.S., and don't have an Rx., you would be in possession of an illegal substance.

[protectkidz]

If you jump to conclusions without facts, then you will assume just that.

lololol!!

I was joking!!!

Because your assumptions that LE is not telling the truth about their findings is ridiculous in my book.

LE has evidence that a dead Caylee was in Casey's trunk.

Casey doesn't want to answer questions truthfully.

Baez stated the other day that his client is not about to give LE information that might put her in prison for the rest of her life.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist, DG.

[Rayosunshine]

[QUOTE=Rayosunshine;12232509]

no, they haven't made the decomp results public.

And I was replying to your post which read:

"What DNA? Do you mean mitochondrial DNA? There is a big difference here. I don't think they can tell the difference between dead or live DNA."

So yes, the DNA which they find of Caylee's can conclude that she's dead.

And, it hasn't been found yet.

[Albini]

Which means nothing factual at this point pertaining to who will or will not be the identified source of that decomposition.

Give us 3 REASONABLE and PROBABLE alternatives to who was in Caseys locked trunk all awhile her daughter is missing?

Notices of LE searches for these people or even the families personal appeals to Casey to bring home that family member will do fine.

[aubrey04]

ITA. It's the most bizarre behaviour I've ever seen from family members of a missing child. From Cindy's hammer, to George's outbursts and physical confrontations with protestors, to Lee's inappropriate laughter when discussing his deal niece's decomp in his sisters trunk and, worse of all, the grieving mom, Casey, partying, shacking up with a guy she barely knows, WTH is up with these people and where are their other family members and friends who should be providing support? JMO.

Yup. Clearly something is VERY wrong in that family. Even skeezeball, Drew Peterson, had some friends and family members who supported him in the beginning of his saga.. OJ Simpson still has friends.. yet, I haven't seen any friends or relatives being supportive of the Anthony's besides strangers who seem have clung onto them.

Not only the first family that didn't help..but probly the first family to get on tv and beg people NOT help him. She also IIRC gave him a tip on day one of his search of a "Caylee sighting" in Texas and wanted him to stop and search there. IMO it was her way of tellin him to just go home..:(

always jmo

Yeah, she said that there were Caylee sightings in Texas, Arizona and Puerto Rico, IIRC.. She seemed to be wanting him to search as far away from Florida as possible. I was waiting for her to say Alaska or Siberia. Also, the LE spokesman said they had been receiving tips of Caylee sightings which they believe originated inside the Anthony camp.. Surely the Anthony's aren't phoning in misleading tips (or having others phone in misleading tips).... ?

[nc1948]

I bet she's gonna have to learn fast. I doubt that any prosecutor is going to let her get away with that rambling nonsense during trial. JMO.


I have seen Prosecutors and Judges admonish witness to only answer the question. Nothing else I am not interesting in seeing anyone else on witness stand -I just want to see Cindy. This will be the examination that will be heard around the world. Can you imagine.

Prosecutor- Now Mrs. Anthony, did you or did you not say, that car smells like there is a dead body in the damn car.

Cindy, you are misquoting me

Prosecutor, Your honor please instruct witness to answer the question.

Prosecutor plays 911 tape

Now Mrs. Anthony, again I ask you if this is what you said.

Cindy, I am not sure, that might be Zannie, or could it be Amy or maybe the tooth fairy.

This could go on for days and days.

NOTE_The reason I am not interested in anyones elses testimony is I know the great posters on here will do a super job. And I always enjoy everyones take on what is said, body language, facial expressions, etc.

[Magnum357]

And how many are mothers with a missing kid...

Now that would be an interesting statistic. I only know of ONE.

[day2day]

Yep, the same poster!!!
She rants about the media and then comes on here spreading unbelievable ridiculous lies and can never back them up with a single fact.
'Sammy the dog has Caylee'
'Another body in the trunk'

Disgusting........


Another body in the trunk with Caylee's DNA!! Maybe Casey is a serial killer?! hammer

[Albini]

Make sure your reading encompasses the lifestyle and cohorts that Casey surrounded herself.

Hi there Mag, BTW. :seeya:


All of Caseys friends have been cleared. The only suspect IS Casey.

Slandering her friends who were proven innocent is fine now tho? SO long as we dont accuse the Anthonys who havent taken a lie detecter test to clear themsleves?hammer

[aubrey04]

WTH? Who elses body would it have been? Caylee is missing. There was a dead body in her mothers car. Casey says she doesnt know where her daughter is.

Who elses body would it have been? Its not my Grandfathers nor the president of the united states. Maybe Jimmy Hoffa????


Sorry, not buying the paraniod conspircy theory.

I think you owe her an apology for calling her silly when the facts support her claim, not yours.

The hair, which showed signs of decomposition, is the same color/length as Caylee too, IIRC.

[WillowInFlight]

Baez' statement was that of an experienced Attorney, because the first thing that any Attorney is going to tell their client is to shut up to anyone other than counsel - and ever since Baez has been retained, that's exactly what Casey has done, as she should.

Wrong! Casey shut up long before Baez came on the scene.

[protectkidz]

[QUOTE=protectkidz;12232560]

And, it hasn't been found yet.

Ray, please don't fall into that trap of thinking that just because we haven't been told, that it hasn't happened.

LE does everything for a reason - and even though we on these boards are for the most part pretty intelligent about this stuff, they are way smarter than we are.

The Sunshine Law in Florida only covers what is cleared for release, not everything that they have.

[Kathlb]

For you to think that Caylee's is the only body in the entire world who could have been in that trunk is just plain silly.


You need to email that statement to Cindy. She can use it next. George tried it but darn it, he didn't get it right. :D

[Rayosunshine]

God this is just disgusting. You are treating this like some big game and you want to win. Who the he$$ was in the car and where is Caylee? You dont know anymore then the rest of us. We just choose not to be dramatic and obstinante and follow the logical conclusion that this poor angel is dead.

You know it wasnt Caylee? Then who was it?

You can NOT say it wasnt Caylee. :flamemad:

You CAN say it was Caylee. I can say it was NOT Caylee. It's an opinion and nothing more.

[dixie77]

Make sure your reading encompasses the lifestyle and cohorts that Casey surrounded herself.

Hi there Mag, BTW. :seeya:

===============

OH NO........not even worth a reply.

[Rayosunshine]

[QUOTE=Rayosunshine;12232584]

Ray, please don't fall into that trap of thinking that just because we haven't been told, that it hasn't happened.

LE does everything for a reason - and even though we on these boards are for the most part pretty intelligent about this stuff, they are way smarter than we are.

The Sunshine Law in Florida only covers what is cleared for release, not everything that they have.

I'm not going to fall into any trap. I will wait until results are released that will prove the issue, beyond a reasonable doubt. Thanks.

[Albini]

You CAN say it was Caylee. I can say it was NOT Caylee. It's an opinion and nothing more.

Mine is based in logic and facts. Yours is based on what exactly?

[protectkidz]

Baez' statement was that of an experienced Attorney, because the first thing that any Attorney is going to tell their client is to shut up to anyone other than counsel - and ever since Baez has been retained, that's exactly what Casey has done, as she should.



ummmm.

Whatever his experience, and I don't have time to challenge that, doesn't change what he said:

his client was not going to give LE information that might put her in prison for the rest of her life.

Hence, the info that Casey has will put her in prison for the rest of her life.

[nc1948]

If George has one shred of decency, and of the 4 I hold out the most hope for him, he will just walk out of that house, plop his butt down with LE and tell all. He owes it to "the little girl". jMO.

I too think George is our best hope. He seems the most disturbed by the loss of Caylee. His reactions actually seem real, where as Cindys is all lying. Caseys is all about Casey, and Lees is all about helping other familys with lost children.

[protectkidz]

[QUOTE=protectkidz;12232618]

I'm not going to fall into any trap. I will wait until results are released that will prove the issue, beyond a reasonable doubt. Thanks.

your choice.

For Caylee's sake, I choose to listen to what the only people who care about her and are looking for her are saying.

[aubrey04]

Is that what the defense will say? It is silly to think it could be anyone else. Who else is missing? We all need to have patience. Justice may not be speedy but it does eventually come. Ask OJ Don't forget that is usually a jogger or construction worker who inadvertently find remains. It is only a matter of time :seeya:

I think most defense lawyers wouldn't even attempt that. It is in no way believable that someone elses dead body was in Casey's trunk.. when Caylee has been missing for 110 days & Caylee's mother, Casey, has spewed nothing but lies before finally clamming up.

[Albini]

First of all, that isn't necessarily true.

Several of the sworn statements are being withheld by LE, as well as and more importantly, - it's amusing for you to think that someone who would be involved in a dead body would necessarily be considered a friend of Casey's.

Not as interesting as the fact that the main suspect is the childs mother. So what is your point? Friends dont kill... but mothers do?

Name me one friend who hasnt been cleared? IF you know the answer then the LE isnt withholding the info are they?

Then name me 3 people who the LE have recognized as being missing and linked to Caseys car?

Its okay that you didnt answer me the first time I asked, I know its a tough question b/c you have to actually have facts to back it up.

[Magnum357]

Make sure your reading encompasses the lifestyle and cohorts that Casey surrounded herself.

Hi there Mag, BTW. :seeya:

I need to be directed to reading material that states Casey's cohorts are connected with other missing children or they have extensive criminal backrounds or better yet----that they have been known to have dead bodies in their trunks on a regular basis.

Hi yourself, you little rascal. :seeya:

[nc1948]

Make sure your reading encompasses the lifestyle and cohorts that Casey surrounded herself.

Hi there Mag, BTW. :seeya:

Are you saying one of Caseys friends put a body in her car? I don't understand. Well, if it wasn't one of her friends maybe it was Zanny, or LE or even Tim.

[kakax]

La, la, la, la skipping and scrolling past many posts!!


Guess she hasn't been arrested yet. She better be enjoying these last free moments being able to sleep in a cozy bed and surf the net to get support from fake people!! Run, Casey!!!

[nc1948]

IMO no judge will put up with that more than twice. She'll find herself in jail on contempt charges, IMO.

It will be fun, can you imagine any man (even a judge) trying to tell Cindy what she is to do. She is apt to get our her trusty hammer and let him have it.

[ruth66]

Baez' statement was that of an experienced Attorney, because the first thing that any Attorney is going to tell their client is to shut up to anyone other than counsel - and ever since Baez has been retained, that's exactly what Casey has done, as she should.

So this experienced attorney advised Casey to put her life ahead of her childs life? DG, no matter how many stories or how many times you come in here trying to sell doesn't change facts. Right now, if you believe that Caylee is alive why isn't Casey directing her family, lawyer, LE or FBI to her? I am sure Baez appreciates the fact that you come on here with so much praise for the job he is doing but I can guarantee you that Caylee (if anyone would give her a voice) would think differently. Why muddy the waters instead of finding Caylee? Caylee did not ask to be born into this family, she defintely deserves so much better.

[kakax]

Should I file this under
1)Lie
or
2)Unfounded gossip

?:shrug:


Can I add a 3)? LOL!

[Kathlb]

La, la, la, la skipping and scrolling past many posts!!


Guess she hasn't been arrested yet. She better be enjoying these last free moments being able to sleep in a cozy bed and surf the net to get support from fake people!! Run, Casey!!!

And sooner than later too. I think it will be happening much sooner than anyone thought. jmho

[Albini]

I know his post may have been dificult to comprehend, but he in no way implied anything at all about the missing childs case.
He was 100% talking about your agenda and your insistence on spreading lies and unfounded gossip.

Its not that dificult to follow....

Thank you (Names Jenna. Thanks for comming to my aid)

[kakax]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/4/texas_equusearch_restarting_search_for_caylee.html

ORLANDO -- Texas Eqqusearch could be back in the city as early as the end of next week to restart the search for Caylee.

Equusearch Deputy Director Mandy Albritton said they will be working on a case in North Carolina. Then they plan to come back to Orlando.

Albritton said Sheriff Kevin Beary has made it very clear that he wants Texas Equusearch to come back and finish the job.

Meanwhile, Casey Anthony, Caylee's mother, has been named a suspect in the toddler's disappearance.



Sorry if this has already been posted...but YAY!! They are on their way back!!!

[WillowInFlight]

I find the gang activity lie more reasonable than when Daddysgirl posted on here that Mr Grund believed his dog Sammy had Caylee.
But just barely....

Oh no she didn't? LOL

[day2day]

Experienced???? 3 years is still novice level, DG. Please, GMAB. JMO.

Personally-i thought it was the dumbest statement ever uttered by an attorney in my life. i'm just sayin...:D

jmo

[Albini]

I find the gang activity lie more reasonable than when Daddysgirl posted on here that Mr Grund believed his dog Sammy had Caylee.
But just barely....

Wait, wait. So the dead body in the car was some fellow gang members?

Someone seriously needs to educate themselves about gangs. If Casey was in one she would be dead by now b/c no gang would tolerate this much LE involvment. They would rather elininate the source before the LE gets too close. They work on pure survivial instinct.

Yes, I know this as a fact DG.

[forensicfan]

My computer hiccupped during my last post so if this is a repeat, I apologize.

I have a thought that might a bit far fetched but at this point, I think any suggestion that might bring this little girl or her remains home is worth mentioning so here goes:

As I understand it, Casey told George that the reason she needed all that gas was to go back and forth to Tampa and that she wouldn't let him get too close to the car when getting the gas cans out of the trunk.

I am curious to know if Casey was in the Tampa or St. Petersberg area (cell phone pings) around the time that Caylee went missing?

The reason I bring this up is that there are several drive off points along the causeway (Courtney Campbell Causeway) where a car could drive along the frontage road in the dark and may not be seen from the highway. I've watched fireworks on the 4th of July from a few of those drive off points so I know they exist. Now granted, it is probably likely that a body would wash up onto shore when the tide rolled in because I don't think it's deep along those areas but I don't know that for fact so it's still worth a mention (IMO).

Secondly, there are two fishing piers by the Sunshine Skyway Bridge (North & South piers). The piers go quite a distance into the bay area. These piers were made from the remnants of bridge that collapsed in 1980 and are open 24 hrs. Now again, I'm not sure how crowded the piers are and what times the tide rolls in and out but if the pier is deserted enough and the tide is rolling out, is it possible Casey could have discarded Caylee at the pier?

I know it's probably not likely but it's just a thought.

[day2day]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/4/texas_equusearch_restarting_search_for_caylee.html

ORLANDO -- Texas Eqqusearch could be back in the city as early as the end of next week to restart the search for Caylee.

Equusearch Deputy Director Mandy Albritton said they will be working on a case in North Carolina. Then they plan to come back to Orlando.

Albritton said Sheriff Kevin Beary has made it very clear that he wants Texas Equusearch to come back and finish the job.

Meanwhile, Casey Anthony, Caylee's mother, has been named a suspect in the toddler's disappearance.



Sorry if this has already been posted...but YAY!! They are on their way back!!!

I can hardly wait! Thanks for the link kakax!!

[Albini]

That has nothing to do with it.

Fact of the matter is, Casey is Baez' client.

Do you understand that? Casey is Baez' client in this case.

Then keeping Casey out of jail has EVERYTHING to do with it.

Have you found the answer to my previous question?

[Mint_Julep]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/10/4/texas_equusearch_restarting_search_for_caylee.html

ORLANDO -- Texas Eqqusearch could be back in the city as early as the end of next week to restart the search for Caylee.

Equusearch Deputy Director Mandy Albritton said they will be working on a case in North Carolina. Then they plan to come back to Orlando.

Albritton said Sheriff Kevin Beary has made it very clear that he wants Texas Equusearch to come back and finish the job.

Meanwhile, Casey Anthony, Caylee's mother, has been named a suspect in the toddler's disappearance.



Sorry if this has already been posted...but YAY!! They are on their way back!!!


I wish I lived close enough to help in the search for this precious little girl but I have faith in Tim and TES, IMO if she's there, they will find her.

[tiny paw-prints]

Which means nothing factual at this point pertaining to who will or will not be the identified source of that decomposition.

I refuse to keep my head stuck in the trunk. I'm more interested about any decomp evidence from the backyard.

[anyonesguess]

Why would JB or ANY LAWYER for that matter tell their client to shut up if the missing person (Caylee in this case) is suppose to be alive somewhere. Any lawyer would be telling anyone anything they could to help find that missing person.

Caylee is NOT alive. Casey knows it. Baez knows it, Cindy, George, and Lee know it. The game play then is to tell your client CASEY to SHADDUP "MY GIRL". They are going to try to send you to prison for the rest of your life.

JB is playing the CYA to make himself look good imo. HE KNOWS Casey is going to prison for a long time, but he can always say. I did my best, and told her NOT to talk to anyone. I can almost bet you before this is ALL said and done in a court of law, the Anthony's will be blaming Baez for NOT getting Casey cleared. He will be called inadequate and inept.

I would imagine the family will try to sue him as well just like she is calling out TIM MILLER for right now for "STEALING" $300.00.

I think Amy H, should sue Cindy for taking that $140 - $200's from Casey's purse the night she was arrested and tried to hide it! Cindy is a thief imo and tried to HIDE it until the cops jacked her up during the interview. She is a scoundrel imo, and Casey learned WELL from her mother's teachings imo.

[kakax]

Personally-i thought it was the dumbest statement ever uttered by an attorney in my life. i'm just sayin...:D

jmo

Well I can tell you he wouldn't be my first choice of someone to defend me. I would rather not have an atty say that if I talked I would give the prosecution an advantage in seeking a murder charge. Thanks but no thanks!!

[Mint_Julep]

My computer hiccupped during my last post so if this is a repeat, I apologize.

I have a thought that might a bit far fetched but at this point, I think any suggestion that might bring this little girl or her remains home is worth mentioning so here goes:

As I understand it, Casey told George that the reason she needed all that gas was to go back and forth to Tampa and that she wouldn't let him get too close to the car when getting the gas cans out of the trunk.

I am curious to know if Casey was in the Tampa or St. Petersberg area (cell phone pings) around the time that Caylee went missing?

The reason I bring this up is that there are several drive off points along the causeway (Courtney Campbell Causeway) where a car could drive along the frontage road in the dark and may not be seen from the highway. I've watched fireworks on the 4th of July from a few of those drive off points so I know they exist. Now granted, it is probably likely that a body would wash up onto shore when the tide rolled in because I don't think it's deep along those areas but I don't know that for fact so it's still worth a mention (IMO).

Secondly, there are two fishing piers by the Sunshine Skyway Bridge (North & South piers). The piers go quite a distance into the bay area. These piers were made from the remnants of bridge that collapsed in 1980 and are open 24 hrs. Now again, I'm not sure how crowded the piers are and what times the tide rolls in and out but if the pier is deserted enough and the tide is rolling out, is it possible Casey could have discarded Caylee at the pier?

I know it's probably not likely but it's just a thought.


IIRC, during Cindy's interview with LE they told her Casey had not left the Orlando area.

[ruth66]

[QUOTE=~DaddysGirl~;12232714]That has nothing to do with it.

Fact of the matter is, Casey is Baez' client.

Do you understand that? Casey is Baez' client in this case.[/QUOTE

Look I am not going around and around with you like others do on this board. The REAL fact of the matter is that CAYLEE is CASEY'S child. Her first priority should be that child. The fact that neither Casey or Baez have morals is not something I am going to argue with you. You come on this board to frustrate people with this attitude that you are "in the know" and to glorify yourself and truth of the matter is you are hiding behind a "nic" just like the rest of us. If you want to discuss facts of the case then do so, if not stop bullying everyone......:no:

[bluwaters]

Baez' statement was that of an experienced Attorney, because the first thing that any Attorney is going to tell their client is to shut up to anyone other than counsel - and ever since Baez has been retained, that's exactly what Casey has done, as she should.
Unfortunately, neither Casey nor her esteemed, high profile attorney give one thought or bit of concern to the best interests of Caylee.

[nc1948]

IMO, she'll grab his gavel and bean him in the headhammer

Well his gavel looks like a hammer, she may mistake it for hers.

[mattncats]

My computer hiccupped during my last post so if this is a repeat, I apologize.

I have a thought that might a bit far fetched but at this point, I think any suggestion that might bring this little girl or her remains home is worth mentioning so here goes:

As I understand it, Casey told George that the reason she needed all that gas was to go back and forth to Tampa and that she wouldn't let him get too close to the car when getting the gas cans out of the trunk.

I am curious to know if Casey was in the Tampa or St. Petersberg area (cell phone pings) around the time that Caylee went missing?

The reason I bring this up is that there are several drive off points along the causeway (Courtney Campbell Causeway) where a car could drive along the frontage road in the dark and may not be seen from the highway. I've watched fireworks on the 4th of July from a few of those drive off points so I know they exist. Now granted, it is probably likely that a body would wash up onto shore when the tide rolled in because I don't think it's deep along those areas but I don't know that for fact so it's still worth a mention (IMO).

Secondly, there are two fishing piers by the Sunshine Skyway Bridge (North & South piers). The piers go quite a distance into the bay area. These piers were made from the remnants of bridge that collapsed in 1980 and are open 24 hrs. Now again, I'm not sure how crowded the piers are and what times the tide rolls in and out but if the pier is deserted enough and the tide is rolling out, is it possible Casey could have discarded Caylee at the pier?

I know it's probably not likely but it's just a thought.

I hope she wasn't in Tampa. My computer went into spasms after that" Maybe it wasn't Caylee in the trunk" thing. Who else was it?? Daddy's Girl like to get everyone worked up..IMO

[bchand]

Yep, the same poster!!!
She rants about the media and then comes on here spreading unbelievable ridiculous lies and can never back them up with a single fact.
'Sammy the dog has Caylee'
'Another body in the trunk'

Disgusting........

"Caylee will be home by Monday, alive" She said that over a month ago also.

And now continues to place blame on innocent people who actually have jobs and earn their own money. It's unfortunate they ever met up with this odious creature.

[Albini]

I hope she wasn't in Tampa. My computer went into spasms after that" Maybe it wasn't Caylee in the trunk" thing. Who else was it?? Daddy's Girl like to get everyone worked up..IMO


She hasnt answered yet. I have asked 3 times for just 3 other possibilities of who it could have been. No answer.

So I guess she has conceded that it was Caylees since she could not prove that 3 other dead people were linked to Casey and her trunk.

[Rayosunshine]

And how many are mothers with a missing kid...

I know of one, and it is not one associated with this case.

[brodysho]

*sigh*
Okay... obviously there is a certain individual here who wants nothing more than to cause trouble, because they have nothing better to do. Can we either please use ignore or scroll past the posts? They never answer your questions because they simply want to stir up trouble, and it's working.
All it does is steer the conversation into illogical and ignorant discussion. Furthermore, all it does is irritate those of us who have taken the time to use the ignore button.

Can we please talk about the facts at hand instead of giving this sad individual the time of day?

Please and thank you.

[Rayosunshine]

Pretty strong statement here combined with the fact that Caylee hasnt been seen in over 3 months:

"We have scientific evidence back from the FBI lab,” Commander Matt Irwin with the Orange County Sheriffs Office said. “We have other evidence we have not yet released publicly, all of that evidence at this point in its totality leads us to believe Caylee is deceased."

And a week ago they were triple-checking. Nothing new since then.

[bluwaters]

That has nothing to do with it.

Fact of the matter is, Casey is Baez' client.

Do you understand that? Casey is Baez' client in this case.

Oh no, Caylee has everything to do with it.

In fact, all of this, every bit of it, is about Caylee.

Fact of the matter is, Casey is Caylee's mother.

Do you understand that?

Caylee is Casey's daughter, Caylee is missing, now presumed dead.
Casey is the one and only suspect.

Under what possible set of circumstances could it be in Casey's best interests not to act in Caylee's?

Do you understand that?

[marshmallow]

Make sure your reading encompasses the lifestyle and cohorts that Casey surrounded herself.

Hi there Mag, BTW. :seeya:

could you please go into more detail and point me to that reading material. I'd love for you to expouund upon this theory of your's. I'm very interested and would like to know more.

[brodysho]

My computer hiccupped during my last post so if this is a repeat, I apologize.

I have a thought that might a bit far fetched but at this point, I think any suggestion that might bring this little girl or her remains home is worth mentioning so here goes:

As I understand it, Casey told George that the reason she needed all that gas was to go back and forth to Tampa and that she wouldn't let him get too close to the car when getting the gas cans out of the trunk.

I am curious to know if Casey was in the Tampa or St. Petersberg area (cell phone pings) around the time that Caylee went missing?

The reason I bring this up is that there are several drive off points along the causeway (Courtney Campbell Causeway) where a car could drive along the frontage road in the dark and may not be seen from the highway. I've watched fireworks on the 4th of July from a few of those drive off points so I know they exist. Now granted, it is probably likely that a body would wash up onto shore when the tide rolled in because I don't think it's deep along those areas but I don't know that for fact so it's still worth a mention (IMO).

Secondly, there are two fishing piers by the Sunshine Skyway Bridge (North & South piers). The piers go quite a distance into the bay area. These piers were made from the remnants of bridge that collapsed in 1980 and are open 24 hrs. Now again, I'm not sure how crowded the piers are and what times the tide rolls in and out but if the pier is deserted enough and the tide is rolling out, is it possible Casey could have discarded Caylee at the pier?

I know it's probably not likely but it's just a thought.
I do hope someone who has been studying the cellphone pings in depth can answer questions like this for us. :seeya:

[Albini]

Oh no, Caylee has everything to do with it.

In fact, all of this, every bit of it, is about Caylee.

Fact of the matter is, Casey is Caylee's mother.

Do you understand that?

Caylee is Casey's daughter, Caylee is missing, now presumed dead.
Casey is the one and only suspect.

Under what possible set of circumstances could it be in Casey's best interests not to act in Caylee's?

Do you understand that?

ITA sweetie.

Logging off now. Going to say a few prayers for Caylees return .

Hope everyone has a goodnight. Blessings.:rose:

[Pruddennce]

That was about as frustrating as her claims that LE left Casey's car at the house for 2 days. Yuri couldn't get her to admit it was less than 24 hours because to her it was two days. :rolleyes:

yes, frustrating is the word.....claiming TWO DAYS...it wasnt two days.

there's that skewed thinking again. reality so far afield...

best regards,
Pru

[bluwaters]

Can I add a 3)? LOL!

May I add a 4)? Ignorant, meaningless garbage!

[marshmallow]

[QUOTE=ruth66;12232744] snip


You can't argue it, because although you don't like it, Baez is doing his job, just as he was retained to do - for Casey.

Yes, he is doing his job. He is looking out for Casey, not looking out for Caylee because Casey is looking out for Casey, not looking out for Caylee.
I agree with you completely on this DG.

[marshmallow]

Triple-checking DNA and Forensics no less - and still not one statement from LE that Caylee is indeed factually deceased.

What are they afraid of? ;)



what do you think DG? who do you think has Caylee and do you think she's alive at this point?

[bhardy1956]

[QUOTE=protectkidz;12232560]

And, it hasn't been found yet.

Oh, IMO, it's been found! Just hasn't made public yet.
I don't get you, with all that has been reported, unfounded or not, this case is all about Casey and little Caylee who is missing, and decomposition in Casey's car. But, Cindy, George, and Lee maybe involved in someway, mostly covering up! I just think it makes sense. I think you would make a great defense lawyer, BTW.

Let's see where this will take us and see in the end that Casey will be tried for murder. Very sad indeed! But, sad for Caylee, an innocent who's life was totally dependant on the protection of her own mommy that failed! Don't get me started!

[EGirl]

I have followed MANY high profile cases here at IS/CTV (starting with Peterson East 5 or 6 years ago), but this one has caught me.

I dreamt last night so vividly that Caylees body had been found that I was shocked to log on here and see it wasn't true.


Praying TODAY is the day this sweet baby comes home. :rose:

[Rayosunshine]

IIRC, during Cindy's interview with LE they told her Casey had not left the Orlando area.

Was that based on phone pings along? Can't remember.

[marshmallow]

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

This is all about Caylee.


Please don't forget Caylee in all of this.
candles for Caylee and Prayers for Tim.

Good nite all:seeya: Tomorrows another day...




thank you for reminding us of the real issue: Caylee is missing.

[Rayosunshine]

Triple-checking DNA and Forensics no less - and still not one statement from LE that Caylee is indeed factually deceased.

What are they afraid of? ;)

Three time's a charm; my guess is they didn't get the charm. And, three times is the scientific method.

[bluwaters]

My computer hiccupped during my last post so if this is a repeat, I apologize.

I have a thought that might a bit far fetched but at this point, I think any suggestion that might bring this little girl or her remains home is worth mentioning so here goes:

As I understand it, Casey told George that the reason she needed all that gas was to go back and forth to Tampa and that she wouldn't let him get too close to the car when getting the gas cans out of the trunk.

I am curious to know if Casey was in the Tampa or St. Petersberg area (cell phone pings) around the time that Caylee went missing?

The reason I bring this up is that there are several drive off points along the causeway (Courtney Campbell Causeway) where a car could drive along the frontage road in the dark and may not be seen from the highway. I've watched fireworks on the 4th of July from a few of those drive off points so I know they exist. Now granted, it is probably likely that a body would wash up onto shore when the tide rolled in because I don't think it's deep along those areas but I don't know that for fact so it's still worth a mention (IMO).

Secondly, there are two fishing piers by the Sunshine Skyway Bridge (North & South piers). The piers go quite a distance into the bay area. These piers were made from the remnants of bridge that collapsed in 1980 and are open 24 hrs. Now again, I'm not sure how crowded the piers are and what times the tide rolls in and out but if the pier is deserted enough and the tide is rolling out, is it possible Casey could have discarded Caylee at the pier?

I know it's probably not likely but it's just a thought.

I know it seems plausible. However, IIRC, Yuri told Cindy in the videoed interview that Casey never left crossed the Orange County line during that time period. He said there were no trips to Tampa or Jacksonville according to her cell phone records.
Some posters here, steff!, are working hard on mapping her cell phone activity.

[5boxersmom]

Triple-checking DNA and Forensics no less - and still not one statement from LE that Caylee is indeed factually deceased.

What are they afraid of? ;)

Because if they didn't triple check it you and Baez would be saying Did you double check it did you triple check it.

:)

jmo

[aubrey04]

Then keeping Casey out of jail has EVERYTHING to do with it.

~snipped~

Exactly. He doesn't want her talking because he knows she will incriminate herself further. If he truly believed Casey was innocent - he would let her talk and work with LE to find Caylee.

If Caylee is found alive and well... Casey doesn't go to jail.. (well, at least for MURDER..and maybe child neglect... she'd still be prosecuted for her "economic crimes")..

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.

Enough said.. Baez knows if she shows "her cards" - she will get thrown in jail for life.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html?rss=orlc&psp=news

[mattncats]

She hasnt answered yet. I have asked 3 times for just 3 other possibilities of who it could have been. No answer.

So I guess she has conceded that it was Caylees since she could not prove that 3 other dead people were linked to Casey and her trunk.

Something strange took over my computer during that, because I knew I would say something I might regret. Divine intervention. Maybe the person who thought she saw Casey come out of the woods could be the answer.

[tiny paw-prints]

"We have scientific evidence back from the FBI lab,” Commander Matt Irwin with the Orange County Sheriffs Office said. “We have other evidence we have not yet released publicly, all of that evidence at this point in its totality leads us to believe Caylee is deceased."

Thank you! Some of that total evidence probably came from soil samples taken from the backyard.

[Pruddennce]

Baez' statement was that of an experienced Attorney, because the first thing that any Attorney is going to tell their client is to shut up to anyone other than counsel - and ever since Baez has been retained, that's exactly what Casey has done, as she should.

personally she has, but she engaged 3 family members to spew her 'stories' on her behalf.

Im waiting for Baez to recluse himself.

if he's heard anything other than nanny at the apartment, nanny at the park, or anything closely resembling credible information that caylee is deceased coming from his client, well, he better say bye bye if he has information that would lead authorities to her remains.

IMO, his recent statement indicating she will not speak tells me he heard something from her that places casey with a deceased caylee.

best regards,
Pru

[aubrey04]

Triple-checking DNA and Forensics no less - and still not one statement from LE that Caylee is indeed factually deceased.

What are they afraid of? ;)

Have you not watched any murder trials? This is common practice to triple check evidence. If they don't do it - then the defense will pounce on it and say they weren't thorough or somehow they botched the lab tests..

Surely you aren't that naive about criminal trials and how they work, ~DaddysGirls~..

The chain of custody and all the tests that were performed are gone through with a fine tooth comb during direct examination..and during cross-examination.

It happens in EVERY trial I have ever watched!

[desmom]

Triple-checking DNA and Forensics no less - and still not one statement from LE that Caylee is indeed factually deceased.

What are they afraid of? ;)

IMO, we will not know all until it comes back from the GJ, Casey is arrested and the media request the documents.

[Mint_Julep]

Was that based on phone pings along? Can't remember.

I think LE said it was based on the pings but I could be wrong. I only watched Cindy's inverview once and really hate the thought of watching it again.

[Pruddennce]

IIRC LE said Casey never left the Orlando area. It was in the Cindy Anthony video interview. JMO

you are correct. in Cindy's interview. LE said she never left the Orange County area. during the months of June and July.

of course Cindy was ready to challenge that by saying she WAS in Jacksonville, but LE qualified by saying JUNE AND JULY.

oh....

best regards,
Pru

[bhardy1956]

*sigh*
Okay... obviously there is a certain individual here who wants nothing more than to cause trouble, because they have nothing better to do. Can we either please use ignore or scroll past the posts? They never answer your questions because they simply want to stir up trouble, and it's working.
All it does is steer the conversation into illogical and ignorant discussion. Furthermore, all it does is irritate those of us who have taken the time to use the ignore button.

Can we please talk about the facts at hand instead of giving this sad individual the time of day?

Please and thank you.

I'm sorry. I got to involved in the idea's of some of these posters, maybe a little to passionate. I promise it won't happen again! Well, I better not promise, my heart might jump again and I, well...you know.

Sorry ~ let's carry on...:o

[bluwaters]

She hasnt answered yet. I have asked 3 times for just 3 other possibilities of who it could have been. No answer.

So I guess she has conceded that it was Caylees since she could not prove that 3 other dead people were linked to Casey and her trunk.

It is apparent to me that refusal to explain a cryptic post is capitulation and an admission of being unable to back a claim.

The body in the trunk of Casey's car was Caylee. LE even stated that they know the position in which she was laying. They have no reason or need to rush a charge against Casey. There is still hope that Caylee's body will be found.

Whenever the best interests of the mother is counter to the best interests of her very young, dependent child, something is terribly wrong.

[trich]

Triple-checking DNA and Forensics no less - and still not one statement from LE that Caylee is indeed factually deceased.

What are they afraid of? ;)


IMO they are not afraid of a darn thing.
I think they know exactly what they are doing .
They will charge when they have everything down pat.
Don't think for a minute that you or anyone else can second guess them ..they are much smarter at what they do then any layman.
They certainly will not let anyone's opinion sway them from solving the disappearance of Caylee and making the person responsible pay .
Just because they have not leaked all the evidence they have does not mean they don't have it.

[marshmallow]

Not long ago, there was an Attorney whose client had died, and only then, due to Attorney/Client privilege did he reveal that his client had previously told him the real perps name who had committed the crime, and that the wrong person had been incarcerated all of those years in the interim.




are you saying that applies to this particular case?

who do you think has Caylee? do you think she's alive and well?

[day2day]

Well I can tell you he wouldn't be my first choice of someone to defend me. I would rather not have an atty say that if I talked I would give the prosecution an advantage in seeking a murder charge. Thanks but no thanks!!

Before this is over-i bet Baez will be gone. Like the long list before him-they will turn on him. imo...

[bluwaters]

personally she has, but she engaged 3 family members to spew her 'stories' on her behalf.

Im waiting for Baez to recluse himself.

if he's heard anything other than nanny at the apartment, nanny at the park, or anything closely resembling credible information that caylee is deceased coming from his client, well, he better say bye bye if he has information that would lead authorities to her remains.

IMO, his recent statement indicating she will not speak tells me he heard something from her that places casey with a deceased caylee.

best regards,
Pru
ITA Pru
Could Baez's recent faux-pas fall into the category of an excited utterance? It seems like it to me, because he all but said she should enter a guilty plea when charged with murder, unless he can keep her from telling what she knows.
Baez has just made a statement on which professors of criminal law can be base a lecture:
"Stupid things a defense attorney should never say."

[day2day]

I know it seems plausible. However, IIRC, Yuri told Cindy in the videoed interview that Casey never left crossed the Orange County line during that time period. He said there were no trips to Tampa or Jacksonville according to her cell phone records.
Some posters here, steff!, are working hard on mapping her cell phone activity.

Right -maybe Casey didn't but someone else did?! :eek:

[brodysho]

I'm sorry. I got to involved in the idea's of some of these posters, maybe a little to passionate. I promise it won't happen again! Well, I better not promise, my heart might jump again and I, well...you know.

Sorry ~ let's carry on...:o

Thanks! :) And I'm sorry too, but this is getting old. I just wish the conversation would get back on track to what's important... instead of giving a thought to these asinine and pathetic posts. Some people need to find better things to do.

Anywho, does anyone have anything interesting to read or look at pertaining to this case? I've been searching the web hoping to find some nuggets, but so far it isn't anything that we haven't seen.

[crymeariver2006]

personally she has, but she engaged 3 family members to spew her 'stories' on her behalf.

Im waiting for Baez to recluse himself.

if he's heard anything other than nanny at the apartment, nanny at the park, or anything closely resembling credible information that caylee is deceased coming from his client, well, he better say bye bye if he has information that would lead authorities to her remains.

IMO, his recent statement indicating she will not speak tells me he heard something from her that places casey with a deceased caylee.

best regards,
Pru

Oh I think so too. Ever since HIS request for the "immunity deal".

I've also thought that Baez might be up for an ethics investigation before all is said and done.

[Mint_Julep]

I agree. He serves only one useful purpose at this point in time, to get Casey out of the house for six hour stretches of time, IMO. He'll either bring on another attorney or ask the court to excuse him from the case. I don't know if the court would be agreeable but I guess if Casey fired him that would be that. JMO.

What grounds would the Judge need to deny his request if he DID ask to be excused? Also, if he is not paid, can Casey fire a free attorney and cause a delay in the trial?

[margaret kep]

Can I add a 3)? LOL!

Can I add a 4)dg you sound just like Cindy to me jmo

[brodysho]

Before this is over-i bet Baez will be gone. Like the long list before him-they will turn on him. imo...

I sorta hope she retains a new attorney for the sole purpose that she couldn't get an appeal based on ineffective counsel. Because that's clearly what she has right now. :tongue:

[day2day]

I'm new here and apparently you have to have many posts to be taken seriously but I just took the time to learn how to use the ignore button.
:seeya:

I take you seriously!! :seeya:

[cassidy]

Considering "keep your client's mouth SHUT" is taught and pounded in very early on in law school, yeah, he's plenty experienced to know that verse.

I don't think he was paying attention in the class that would advise him, as an attorney, to keep HIS mouth shut too. He certainly made his client appear to have something to hide with HIS statement. It would have been better left unsaid.

JMO

[?noanswer]

I have a suggestion. Whenever a poster comes on and starts posting things that gets one in a tizzy, why not just step away from the board. I think that would work much better than "ignore". Come back later and see if that poster argues with her own posts. JMO

[ruth66]

I'm new here and apparently you have to have many posts to be taken seriously but I just took the time to learn how to use the ignore button.
:seeya:

It just took me 10 minutes to figure it out (ignore button) again but I did it. I will go back to lurking, my blood pressure can't take it....:seeya:

[martha]

Can I add a 4)dg you sound just like Cindy to me jmoITA is that cindy? do we have cindy and casey on this board? If so I wish they would tell us where caylee is.jmho:rose:

[aubrey04]

I'm new here and apparently you have to have many posts to be taken seriously but I just took the time to learn how to use the ignore button.
:seeya:

Keys,

Actually you can have a long history with many posts and not be taken seriously, IMO.

It makes no difference to me whether you have 1 post or 100,000 posts, I value most opinions on here, but that has been tested lately.

I prefer posts that have some logic behind them. though.. Once again, welcome!

:seeya:

[cassidy]

That has nothing to do with it.

Fact of the matter is, Casey is Baez' client.

Do you understand that? Casey is Baez' client in this case.

I understand it perfectly. What I don't understand is that before Casey was Baez's client, she was Caylee's MOM. She seems to have forgotten that in an effort to protect herself. Casey has an attorney, Cindy and George have an attorney and Caylee is left out in the cold. No one there to protect her and that is just sad. Her own family is more interested in protecting themselves. Gotta wonder why.

JMO

[crymeariver2006]

Not long ago, there was an Attorney whose client had died, and only then, due to Attorney/Client privilege did he reveal that his client had previously told him the real perps name who had committed the crime, and that the wrong person had been incarcerated all of those years in the interim.


What Pru is referring to is that Baez cannot further a crime in his representation. The crime being the hiding of the body. If he finds out from his client, or elsewhere, the location of the body and continues to represent his client, in furtherance of a crime, he is guilty of an ethics violation and can be disbarred (at the least).

He must, at the point where he learns of any such location, recuse himself and ask the court to either appoint another attorney or allow his client to retain other counsel of their choosing.

:read:

[Mint_Julep]

I think maybe time would be a factor. I think Baez is getting paid or he wouldn't have been able to hire Kobi, IMO.

Ok, dumb question time. IF he is not being paid, can he request money from the Court or State to hire expert witnesses (like Kobi)?

[bluwaters]

Keys,

Actually you can have a long history with many posts and not be taken seriously, IMO.

It makes no difference to me whether you have 1 post or 100,000 posts, I value most opinions on here, but that has been tested lately.

I prefer posts that have some logic behind them. though.. Once again, welcome!

:seeya:
Great post!
It's quality, not quantity that matters, Keys.
Glad to have you here! :seeya:

[crymeariver2006]

If the Anthonys are called to testify for the prosecution, will they be considered hostile witnesses? If so, what advantage, if any, does that afford them?

I just can't imagine that they would willingly cooperate with the DA in any trail against Casey. If they are deemed hostile witnesses can they refuse to answer questions? Can they exercise their 5th amendment rights? I'm just curious how all this is going to play out in court.

TIA to anyone who can answer!:)

I think they can only invoke the 5th if the information they are about to reveal incriminates THEM in some way.

Otherwise, they have to answer the questions or be held in contempt (with a night in jail).

[Moonkatt]

Something strange took over my computer during that, because I knew I would say something I might regret. Divine intervention. Maybe the person who thought she saw Casey come out of the woods could be the answer.


Hi, I was thinking that witness had a good tip and not that this negates that but I looked at the links thread this morning and a very early one showed a rear view of Casey's car. I saw no bumper stickers but it didn't appear to have a 'bumper' as I know them either.

[aubrey04]

Ok, dumb question time. IF he is not being paid, can he request money from the Court or State to hire expert witnesses (like Kobi)?

He can request money for expert witnesses, but a judge can deny it. Neil Entwistle's attorney, Weinstein, asked the court for money for expert witnesses.. the request was denied.

That was in Massachusetts.. different court..different state.. but I don't think the state would be REQUIRED to pay for expert witnesses.. IMO, it would be up to a judge to decide whether they thought it was an appropriate request.

JMO

[cassidy]

Ok, dumb question time. IF he is not being paid, can he request money from the Court or State to hire expert witnesses (like Kobi)?


Yes. He can also request money for himself. And would most likely get it.

[Mint_Julep]

He can request money for expert witnesses, but a judge can deny it. Neil Entwistle's attorney, Weinstein, asked the court for money for expert witnesses.. the request was denied.

That was in Massachusetts.. different court..different state.. but I don't think the state would be REQUIRED to pay for expert witnesses.. IMO, it would be up to a judge to decide whether they thought it was an appropriate request.

JMO


Thank you Aubrey, I appreciate your patience with me. :)

[day2day]

I sorta hope she retains a new attorney for the sole purpose that she couldn't get an appeal based on ineffective counsel. Because that's clearly what she has right now. :tongue:

That is my biggest fear. And we want her to have the best!! ;)

[crymeariver2006]

This may sound stupid, but then what does the next attorney do with this information???


Nothing if he's not aware of the information.

:shrug:

[day2day]

Yes. He can also request money for himself. And would most likely get it.

IMO the state did NOT pay for Koby. She hasn't even been charged yet..and IIRC it has been said that a "third party" paid for his services. I will let you guess who that party is...

jmo..

[Cury-us Coyote]

Equusearch Team Returns To Search For Caylee's Body
Investigators Say Very Likely 3-Year-Old Is Dead

Albritton said the main focus will be on finishing the search of the 25-square-mile area where they had previously been looking.

"Thirty percent of that search area we could not get into," she said. "However, if Orange County has found other areas of interest that they want us to look at, we will definitely go there and search those areas, as well."

The family will hold a prayer vigil at a nearby church at 8 p.m. Sunday.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17626045/detail.html

[cassidy]

Not long ago, there was an Attorney whose client had died, and only then, due to Attorney/Client privilege did he reveal that his client had previously told him the real perps name who had committed the crime, and that the wrong person had been incarcerated all of those years in the interim.

IIRC the client WAS the perp which was why the attorney could do nothing about it until the client died.

[crymeariver2006]

I don't know. Casey, on her own, would most likely qualify for a public defender and the state would pay for their expenses and witnesses. But, Casey hired Baez on her own, not through the public defender's office. I think that exempts her from any state aid. JMO but I think there are some lawyers posting here who could provide a better answer. JMO.

I think Geragos ended up billing the state for charges over what the Petersons could afford to pay him. IIRC, he was paid a portion of that by the state.

[aubrey04]

Thank you Aubrey, I appreciate your patience with me. :)

Well don't take my word as gospel..LOL.. I am just going off of what I have seen in the past. Impartial is actually a great person to ask legal questions to because s/he is a lawyer but I think I am correct?!?

Who is paying Jose Baez now? I read somewhere that he's not court appointed, but I am unsure whether that is correct or not.. Does anyone know?

[cassidy]

IMO the state did NOT pay for Koby. She hasn't even been charged yet..and IIRC it has been said that a "third party" paid for his services. I will let you guess who that party is...

jmo..

I meant hiring expert witness once she is actually charged.. I didn't know someone had already paid Koby for his services.

[crymeariver2006]

I'm sure there are going to be a lot of invocations of the 5th with this group of liars. If they refuse to answer they might get more than just one night, remember Susan McDougal??? It'll be interesting to watch if this does go to trial. JMO.

I fully expect Cindy to be charged with contempt at least once. Warned several times beforehand.

;)

[dixie77]

personally she has, but she engaged 3 family members to spew her 'stories' on her behalf.

Im waiting for Baez to recluse himself.

if he's heard anything other than nanny at the apartment, nanny at the park, or anything closely resembling credible information that caylee is deceased coming from his client, well, he better say bye bye if he has information that would lead authorities to her remains.

IMO, his recent statement indicating she will not speak tells me he heard something from her that places casey with a deceased caylee.

best regards,
Pru

=============

I totally agree with u, Pru. Casey will have a new attorney soon. And i hope this person will be less knowledgable than JB. jmo

[Mint_Julep]

Thanks to all of you for your replies, they give me something to think about.

[crymeariver2006]

Well don't take my word as gospel..LOL.. I am just going off of what I have seen in the past. Impartial is actually a great person to ask legal questions to because s/he is a lawyer but I think I am correct?!?

Who is paying Jose Baez now? I read somewhere that he's not court appointed, but I am unsure whether that is correct or not.. Does anyone know?

Cindy said at one time that we shouldn't worry about who is paying Baez.

So....I'm not worried. :D

[SavannahStar]

I have a suggestion. Whenever a poster comes on and starts posting things that gets one in a tizzy, why not just step away from the board. I think that would work much better than "ignore". Come back later and see if that poster argues with her own posts. JMO

Even better suggestion is that no one comes on and tells posters who they should respond to or not respond to. That would REALLY be nice. :seeya:

[MyrDawn]

Triple-checking DNA and Forensics no less - and still not one statement from LE that Caylee is indeed factually deceased.

What are they afraid of? ;)

Afraid? Where did you get that idea? The LE is giving out very little information and rightly so. Not every sheriff and prosecutor wants cases tried in the media, nor lays all their cards on the table before even charging someone. Didn't you hear Casey has been upgraded from "person of interest" to suspect? That tells us something right there.
JMO

[bluwaters]

Wrong, that statement came from the media, and not directly from LE.
True enough.
The majority of our information comes from LE through the media.

Anthony Could Face Charges In Daughter's Disappearance In Weeks
http://www.wesh.com/news/17563488/detail.html

Investigators said they're confident those tests will provide "iron-clad proof" that Caylee's body was in the trunk of the car, how her body was positioned and that strands of her hair fell out after she died.

I have no doubt that murder charges will be filed. There is a good reason why LE hasn't done so yet. They have no reason to hurry.
They have more time to hopefully locate Caylee's body.
I truly believe that the amount of evidence will be astounding, based on the volume of evidence that has been released so far.
LE is taking their time to follow every credible lead and gather all the relevant evidence that they can find.
I think for being given a cold case, they are doing a great job! :patriot:

[crymeariver2006]

I meant hiring expert witness once she is actually charged.. I didn't know someone had already paid Koby for his services.

If Koby was paid anything, it was only a retainer for his services in the future. As of yet, Baez has not received any forensic test results because Casey has not yet been charged with murder.

[SavannahStar]

Well don't take my word as gospel..LOL.. I am just going off of what I have seen in the past. Impartial is actually a great person to ask legal questions to because s/he is a lawyer but I think I am correct?!?

Who is paying Jose Baez now? I read somewhere that he's not court appointed, but I am unsure whether that is correct or not.. Does anyone know?


Yes, impartial is an attorney. And she is a she. :)

[crymeariver2006]

In other words, those ducks are lining up!

I can hear the quacking from ovah heah.....:D

[Mint_Julep]

True enough.
The majority of our information comes from LE through the media.

Anthony Could Face Charges In Daughter's Disappearance In Weeks
http://www.wesh.com/news/17563488/detail.html



I have no doubt that murder charges will be filed. There is a good reason why LE hasn't done so yet. They have no reason to hurry.
They have more time to hopefully locate Caylee's body.
I truly believe that the amount of evidence will be astounding, based on the volume of evidence that has been released so far.
LE is taking their time to follow every credible lead and gather all the relevant evidence that they can find.
I think for being given a cold case, they are doing a great job! :patriot:


I agree with you blu, they have all the time they need. Possibly they might be holding off until TES gets here, hoping they can find the remains.

[day2day]

I meant hiring expert witness once she is actually charged.. I didn't know someone had already paid Koby for his services.

Oh yes he has already been hired!! :seeya:

[?noanswer]

Well don't take my word as gospel..LOL.. I am just going off of what I have seen in the past. Impartial is actually a great person to ask legal questions to because s/he is a lawyer but I think I am correct?!?

Who is paying Jose Baez now? I read somewhere that he's not court appointed, but I am unsure whether that is correct or not.. Does anyone know?


I don't know, but IIRC, a call to him is listed on Cindy's phone records shortly after Casey was arrested. But I have also heard he was recommended to Casey by other inmates. JMO

[Cury-us Coyote]

yes, frustrating is the word.....claiming TWO DAYS...it wasnt two days.

there's that skewed thinking again. reality so far afield...

best regards,
Pru

Don't hospitals bill the number of days to charge by picking an hour as the start of a new day? IIRC, any minute before the bewitching hour is considered a entire day and any minute after is billable as the next entire day. medical math = Cindy math
jmo

[margaret kep]

And I can't figure out why they would need him at this point in time. IMO, the DA's office is not going to turn over during discovery any forensic information that is not specifically related to the charges PPOF is currently facing. The child neglect if fairly obvious, she doesn't know where her child is; the economic crimes don't involve the type of forensics Kobi specializes in, IMO. When murder charges are brought against her then Kobi will actually have something to review and comment upon, IMO.

:read: What does PPOF mean? Thank you

[oldbluesmith]

Hellow everyone, just dropped in to check if the LE has clapped the irons on Casey yet. Well, no hurry, just want LE to get all their evidence ready first. Thank Goodness there is no time limit to charge her and/or accomplices with murder. Miracles happen everyday if you look for them. JMHO :read: Now back to lurking.

[Mint_Julep]

I don't know if the Anthonys are paying that attorney or not but CA certainly isn't following his advice! It will be interesting to see her on the stand! I wonder if they will let her bring her own water?

I just hope the trial is televised. I know Florida has allowed cameras in prior cases and I hope this one is not an exception.

[StickyBeak]

Hello Everyone,

Just trying to check up on any new developments, not sure if I missed this posted. Tim Miller Equusearch coming back to town.

http://www.wesh.com/news/17626045/detail.html

Looking for Caylee's

[SavannahStar]

:read: What does PPOF mean? Thank you

I won't touch that one with a ten-foot pole. :D (A search of this morning's posts, though, would be interesting.)

[ccat]

I hope soon there is justice for Caylee. We had to wait 13 years for OJ justice.

[day2day]

:read: What does PPOF mean? Thank you

PrincessPantsonFire

[dohinmom]

hello all,

sorry if thi has been asked/answered already but are the transcripts for ca's interview with LE available anywhere? I just can't handle finishing listening to it on tape.

I would really appreciate a link if they are available.
TIA :):)

dolphinmom

[Pruddennce]

Don't hospitals bill the number of days to charge by picking an hour as the start of a new day? IIRC, any minute before the bewitching hour is considered a entire day and any minute after is billable as the next entire day. medical math = Cindy math
jmothats pretty good Coyote :D

I still say Cindy in a Time Warp...with gum of course.

Ive noticed both her and daughter have the same gum chewing habit.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[nc1948]

I'm new here and apparently you have to have many posts to be taken seriously but I just took the time to learn how to use the ignore button.
:seeya:


Welcome Keysbreeze, no you do not have to have lots of posts to be taken seriously. Most posters here are great. You do have a few that aren't, but they are in the majority.

Remember ignore is your friend. Stay with us , people here are great for researching, and lots and lots of info that I had never thought of.

[Cury-us Coyote]

thats pretty good Coyote :D

I still say Cindy in a Time Warp...with gum of course.

Ive noticed both her and daughter have the same gum chewing habit.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

Timing is everything. IIRC, the videotaped CinA interview did NOT conclude the usual swear and affirm that information shared is truthful. How long must we wait to learn how that interview really ended?

[Cury-us Coyote]

hello all,

sorry if thi has been asked/answered already but are the transcripts for ca's interview with LE available anywhere? I just can't handle finishing listening to it on tape.

I would really appreciate a link if they are available.
TIA :):)

dolphinmom

I have NOT seen a transcription of CinA's interview anywhere. RUMOR has it those assigned the task have suddenly gone home sick. jk
jmo

[brodysho]

hello all,

sorry if thi has been asked/answered already but are the transcripts for ca's interview with LE available anywhere? I just can't handle finishing listening to it on tape.

I would really appreciate a link if they are available.
TIA :):)

dolphinmom

I've been asking about this since the day her interview came out. Nothing so far. I'm in the same boat as you when it comes to listening to it again.
I've thought about trying to transcribe it myself, but I don't think i'm ready for that sort of punishment.

[steffaroob4]

map 1 (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106425559040462351765.000458711d5f086490425&ll=28.545926,-81.176605&spn=0.564568,0.878906&z=10) is June 23 to
27th, I marked all cell towers her phone used
map 2 (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=d&saddr=875+Woodbury+Rd+Orlando,+FL+32828&daddr=&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106425559040462351765.000458763cdf21792cefe&z=11) is June 15th to 17th, with all towers marked

[Cury-us Coyote]

map 1 (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106425559040462351765.000458711d5f086490425&ll=28.545926,-81.176605&spn=0.564568,0.878906&z=10) is June 23 to
27th, I marked all cell towers her phone used
map 2 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=875+Woodbury+Rd+Orlando,+FL+32828&daddr=&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=28.545473,-81.338997&sspn=0.070572,0.109863&ie=UTF8&ll=28.549545,-81.228104&spn=0.282275,0.439453&z=11) is June 15th to 17th, with all towers marked

WOW - Thanks your reading my mind.

Whoa - does map2 have one site? Kind of narrows things down!

[trich]

I didn't think Casey had any interaction with the other inmates. Maybe she found his name and number scrawled on the wall near the phone:shrug: JMO.


the way I heard it someone in another cell told her about Baez.
Not sure if this is correct but I read it some where.
She did have him for her attorney before she got out on bond the first time.
Baez had a friend who put him in touch with Padilla and then from there on ......

[tiny paw-prints]

Cindy said at one time that we shouldn't worry about who is paying Baez.

So....I'm not worried. :D

I'm not worried either. :tongue:

Maybe it's imaginary money donated by an anonymous source?

[Kathlb]

ITA Pru
Could Baez's recent faux-pas fall into the category of an excited utterance? It seems like it to me, because he all but said she should enter a guilty plea when charged with murder, unless he can keep her from telling what she knows.
Baez has just made a statement on which professors of criminal law can be base a lecture:
"Stupid things a defense attorney should never say."

I like the way Matt Lauer's head jerked as if he were thinking "Did he just say what I think he said??!!" ROFL

[bchand]

I have NOT seen a transcription of CinA's interview anywhere. RUMOR has it those assigned the task have suddenly gone home sick. jk
jmo


GMTA - I almost posted something similar.

I see most of the transcipts here, but not Cindys.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2008/9/24/files_released_in_casey_anthony_case.html

I guess they figure you have to see it to believe it.

[margaret kep]

PrincessPantsonFire


Thank you Day. Had heard but never in initals.

[day2day]

I like the way Matt Lauer's head jerked as if he were thinking "Did he just say what I think he said??!!" ROFL

That was priceless!! :lol:

[steffaroob4]

WOW - Thanks your reading my mind.

I am trying to divide up her habits a bit, I still have a few days to do, maybe tomorrow.

I really am interested in the tower new the college, that is from June 17th. So far that is the only time she has hit an area once.

[steffaroob4]

WOW - Thanks your reading my mind.

Whoa - does map2 have one site? Kind of narrows things down!

I think I fixed it, I screwed up url (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106425559040462351765.000458763cdf21792cefe&ll=28.529036,-81.274109&spn=0.28233,0.439453&z=11)

top right tower, I find interesting
41-27202-22281

[dohinmom]

thanks anyway guys. Glad to hear that Tim is coming back next week.

Not that I don't have faith in florida le, but somehow I feel more reasured when Tim and his team is there searching for Caylee.

back to reading posts and totally ignoring some frustrating posters tonight.;)

take care all,

dolphinmom

[nc1948]

That's why I think they hired NeJames, to coach them on courtroom etiquette and how to say only yes or only no, don't wear shorts, and don't chew gum. This is serious business and I don't see Cindy dealing well with a situation she has absolutely no control over. JMO.


Cindy will never, ever let any man tell her what to say, wear, or do. This should be interesting.

[hamebone]

map 1 (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106425559040462351765.000458711d5f086490425&ll=28.545926,-81.176605&spn=0.564568,0.878906&z=10) is June 23 to
27th, I marked all cell towers her phone used
map 2 (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=d&saddr=875+Woodbury+Rd+Orlando,+FL+32828&daddr=&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106425559040462351765.000458763cdf21792cefe&z=11) is June 15th to 17th, with all towers marked


what is the radius from phone to any given tower?

[nc1948]

I don't know if the Anthonys are paying that attorney or not but CA certainly isn't following his advice! It will be interesting to see her on the stand! I wonder if they will let her bring her own water?


that water was interesting. In NC you do not bring anything to eat or drink into a court room. The only water available is water furnished by the court. You never know what someone has in a bottle that they bring in. I realize it is not a big deal, but just one more thing that stuck out to me.

[Cury-us Coyote]

I think I fixed it, I screwed up url (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106425559040462351765.000458763cdf21792cefe&ll=28.529036,-81.274109&spn=0.28233,0.439453&z=11)

top right tower, I find interesting
41-27202-22281

Rather early in the day, IMO.

[steffaroob4]

what is the radius from phone to any given tower?

In Florida, it could be several miles, some say up to 5, since there are so many towers in the area, I think it would be less than 5.

[MyrDawn]

thanks anyway guys. Glad to hear that Tim is coming back next week.

Not that I don't have faith in florida le, but somehow I feel more reasured when Tim and his team is there searching for Caylee.

back to reading posts and totally ignoring some frustrating posters tonight.;)

take care all,

dolphinmom


I'm sure glad they'll be back soon, too. Tim/Equusearch have a lot more experience finding missing people than the local LE. If it's possible to find Caylee, Tim and his peeps will do it!
JMO

[summer4meplz]

Thanks, I did the ping thing myself and am a believer that Casey dumped the body in the 15 to 18 day range. I'm very confident that somebody will find Caylee. Any later than that would be too much decomp if she was killed on the 16th. Too much decomp for even the odious creature to deal with. IMO



Hi Keys....did you see my reply to you last night about amy's address? I know you were looking for it the other day?

[summer4meplz]

I'm sure glad they'll be back soon, too. Tim/Equusearch have a lot more experience finding missing people than the local LE. If it's possible to find Caylee, Tim and his peeps will do it!
JMO



Do you know if Tim is coming back to search or just coming back? tia

[steffaroob4]

Rather early in the day, IMO.

Around 4:30, on June 17th.
I wish I knew what the time and day of her borrowing that shovel was.
I find it hard to believe she would be out in the hazards of Florida a night, it can be scary. It is so easy to get to a secluded location in the daylight, I sure wouldn't venture out at night.

[Cury-us Coyote]

what is the radius from phone to any given tower?

IMO, about 3-5 miles depending on tower and land confiqurations.

[nc1948]

thanks anyway guys. Glad to hear that Tim is coming back next week.

Not that I don't have faith in florida le, but somehow I feel more reasured when Tim and his team is there searching for Caylee.

back to reading posts and totally ignoring some frustrating posters tonight.;)

take care all,

dolphinmom


I am glad Tim is returning. He devotes all his time to searching. LE does not have the man power or time to spend all their time searching. They actually have other crimes to work on. So I think LE welcomes Tims help.

[MyrDawn]

Do you know if Tim is coming back to search or just coming back? tia

Definitely to search. "Deputy Director of Equusearch Mandy Albritton said..."It's been way too long for a little 3-year-old to be missing."

Albritton said the main focus will be on finishing the search of the 25-square-mile area where they had previously been looking.

"Thirty percent of that search area we could not get into," she said. "However, if Orange County has found other areas of interest that they want us to look at, we will definitely go there and search those areas, as well.""

http://www.wesh.com/news/17626045/detail.html

[summer4meplz]

Yes, and thank you. It helped me complete the puzzle.


yay!! I like to be helpful to you ppl with "skills" that can decipher all that stuff.....

[Cury-us Coyote]

Evidence NOT yet released with current dumps
1) Statements – second Osceola Co cadaver dog handler, Annie Dowling, Dante Salah, Mark Hawkins, Body Hunter’s female guard, Christine Chester, Jeff (told JG Caylee missing), Ann Marie Chase, Jonathan & Sean Daly, Dannielle Lucey-Austin, Nate
2) Computer search analysis – chloroform, escort services, chat & text msgs
3) Lab tests – air, hair, stain, dirt, shovel, contents of car, home, trash bag, dna
4) EZ Pass records, roadway video captures, vehicle GPS
5) CinA & GA & LA timecards/work records, phone & text msg records
6) Jail visitation recording - GA/Casey & CinA/Casey
7) Financial records – credit card statements
8) Legal documents – Caylee’s assigned guardian, Casey’s will (if any), juvenile records (if any)
9) Caylee’s Insurance policy (if any)
10) Medical records & evaluations
11) DCF investigation

jmo

[hamebone]

In Florida, it could be several miles, some say up to 5, since there are so many towers in the area, I think it would be less than 5.


Thanks Steff!

[steffaroob4]

Evidence NOT yet released with current dumps
1) Statements – second Osceola Co cadaver dog handler, Annie Dowling, Dante Salah, Mark Hawkins, Body Hunter’s female guard, Christine Chester, Jeff (told JG Caylee missing), Ann Marie Chase, Jonathan & Sean Daly, Dannielle Lucey-Austin, Nate
2) Computer search analysis – chloroform, escort services, chat & text msgs
3) Lab tests – air, hair, stain, dirt, shovel, contents of car, home, trash bag, dna
4) EZ Pass records, roadway video captures, vehicle GPS
5) CinA & GA & LA timecards/work records, phone & text msg records
6) Jail visitation recording - GA/Casey & CinA/Casey
7) Financial records – credit card statements
8) Legal documents – Caylee’s assigned guardian, Casey’s will (if any), juvenile records (if any)
9) Caylee’s Insurance policy (if any)
10) Medical records & evaluations
11) DCF investigation

jmo

Did you see baez filed a motion yesterday for digital, something, let me go grab it, argh.

[steffaroob4]

did you see baez filed a motion yesterday for digital, something, let me go grab it, argh.



demand for discovery and inspection relating to digital forensic evidence filed

[Cury-us Coyote]

Did you see baez filed a motion yesterday for digital, something, let me go grab it, argh.

Yup, saw it.

[Velouria]

I'm new here and apparently you have to have many posts to be taken seriously but I just took the time to learn how to use the ignore button.
:seeya:

Welcome KeysBreeze:seeya:
Anyone ever tell ya you're a fast learner?

[steffaroob4]

Yup, saw it.

I had my head in those phone records for hours, I have been changing them to searchable excels, easier said than done.:read:

I stole your list of missing items, too, it was better than mine.:D

[Rayosunshine]

Was there not a block of time, where no incoming or outgoing was found on Casey's phone? Sort of like a black hole.

Is there a timeline for her phone listed somewhere?

[Rayosunshine]

Evidence NOT yet released with current dumps
1) Statements – second Osceola Co cadaver dog handler, Annie Dowling, Dante Salah, Mark Hawkins, Body Hunter’s female guard, Christine Chester, Jeff (told JG Caylee missing), Ann Marie Chase, Jonathan & Sean Daly, Dannielle Lucey-Austin, Nate
2) Computer search analysis – chloroform, escort services, chat & text msgs
3) Lab tests – air, hair, stain, dirt, shovel, contents of car, home, trash bag, dna
4) EZ Pass records, roadway video captures, vehicle GPS
5) CinA & GA & LA timecards/work records, phone & text msg records
6) Jail visitation recording - GA/Casey & CinA/Casey
7) Financial records – credit card statements
8) Legal documents – Caylee’s assigned guardian, Casey’s will (if any), juvenile records (if any)
9) Caylee’s Insurance policy (if any)
10) Medical records & evaluations
11) DCF investigation

jmo

Nice list, Cuyote.

[Rayosunshine]

Im still trying to figure out the source amy named in her txt messages she said they would help with "anything"
I wonder if they are behind the $$ for his counsel. End of her txt messages she mentions a backer I think she is talking to Lee. Not sure tho.

Would that be Harris Rosen?

[steffaroob4]

Was there not a block of time, where no incoming or outgoing was found on Casey's phone? Sort of like a black hole.

Is there a timeline for her phone listed somewhere?


I have found one odd 2-3 hour chunk of time during the day with no activity, which is very odd for her. Most nights her phone was on all night long, there are several days where it seemed she shut it off or got no texts during night.

[Rayosunshine]

I have afound one odd 2-3 hour chunk of time during the day with no activity, which is very odd for her. Most nights her phone was on all night long, there are several days where it seemed she shut it off or got no texts during night.

Need to see if I can find out what day that was.

[frances1]

Not long ago, there was an Attorney whose client had died, and only then, due to Attorney/Client privilege did he reveal that his client had previously told him the real perps name who had committed the crime, and that the wrong person had been incarcerated all of those years in the interim.


That is so wrong. There had to be a way around that; an anonymous caller, maybe.

[steffaroob4]

Need to see if I can find out what day that was.

I find very strange June 18th, her last phone activity was at 18:57 (about 7pm);
jump to June 19th, 8:30am

[tiny paw-prints]

Im still trying to figure out the source amy named in her txt messages she said they would help with "anything"
I wonder if they are behind the $$ for his counsel. End of her txt messages she mentions a backer I think she is talking to Lee. Not sure tho.

JP Chatt is Amy's current boyfriend. We haven't seen his interview yet, and he's not named on the prosecution's witness list. Maybe there's some money strings attached to Amy's relationship with Chatt?

[Cury-us Coyote]

I had my head in those phone records for hours, I have been changing them to searchable excels, easier said than done.:read:

I stole your list of missing items, too, it was better than mine.:D

Good it's teamwork. :)

[barskin&co.]

I've been entering the cell pone records in Excel along with lat and long, pinging in Google Earth and trying to match the text messages that have been released and after much frustration, I have come to the realization that I need to look for a job. :)

Keys, you have a job. Finish your Excel spread sheet and share it with us! :D

[day2day]

I find very strange June 18th, her last phone activity was at 18:57 (about 7pm);
jump to June 19th, 8:30am

Thats a whole lot of silence comin from Casey!!!! It is very strange-imo.

[day2day]

greets
dont post very often but have a question,,is there a way one can get the isp provider # here of nics?
on some message boards it comes up under the nic
this might seem to be o/t, but if i can find the info, it would not be
(my sneaky smile comes out)
thanks
orb

...no orb-we can't see them!! Only CW can see ips! :seeya:

[margaret kep]

Evidence NOT yet released with current dumps
1) Statements – second Osceola Co cadaver dog handler, Annie Dowling, Dante Salah, Mark Hawkins, Body Hunter’s female guard, Christine Chester, Jeff (told JG Caylee missing), Ann Marie Chase, Jonathan & Sean Daly, Dannielle Lucey-Austin, Nate
2) Computer search analysis – chloroform, escort services, chat & text msgs
3) Lab tests – air, hair, stain, dirt, shovel, contents of car, home, trash bag, dna
4) EZ Pass records, roadway video captures, vehicle GPS
5) CinA & GA & LA timecards/work records, phone & text msg records
6) Jail visitation recording - GA/Casey & CinA/Casey
7) Financial records – credit card statements
8) Legal documents – Caylee’s assigned guardian, Casey’s will (if any), juvenile records (if any)
9) Caylee’s Insurance policy (if any)
10) Medical records & evaluations
11) DCF investigation

jmo


Hi Cury-us - 9-26-08 transcripts released on Jonathan and Sean Daly. Hope this helps.

[kakax]

map 1 (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106425559040462351765.000458711d5f086490425&ll=28.545926,-81.176605&spn=0.564568,0.878906&z=10) is June 23 to
27th, I marked all cell towers her phone used
map 2 (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?f=d&saddr=875+Woodbury+Rd+Orlando,+FL+32828&daddr=&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106425559040462351765.000458763cdf21792cefe&z=11) is June 15th to 17th, with all towers marked



You are awesome!!!! Great job and very easy to see! She doesn't move much out of her comfort zone huh. Looks like the closest she got to the airport was a little north....wonder about those phone pings that placed her south and then near the college campus? Have you seen any evidence of those?

[steffaroob4]

Thats a whole lot of silence comin from Casey!!!! It is very strange-imo.

She sure has a serious cell phone habit.

[kakax]

I find very strange June 18th, her last phone activity was at 18:57 (about 7pm);
jump to June 19th, 8:30am

That is certainly out of character isn't it? Where there any other days that had lapses like this?

[kakax]

I have found one odd 2-3 hour chunk of time during the day with no activity, which is very odd for her. Most nights her phone was on all night long, there are several days where it seemed she shut it off or got no texts during night.



You have done such a great job!! I nominate you expert of phone records LOL!!!

[steffaroob4]

You are awesome!!!! Great job and very easy to see! She doesn't move much out of her comfort zone huh. Looks like the closest she got to the airport was a little north....wonder about those phone pings that placed her south and then near the college campus? Have you seen any evidence of those?

It's so hard to tell, those airports ones can be from her being at Hopespring. I am looking for patterns more than a location, see how she moves about. Wish I had some more help from LE, like the EZ-Pass records.

[frances1]

JP Chatt is Amy's current boyfriend. We haven't seen his interview yet, and he's not named on the prosecution's witness list. Maybe there's some money strings attached to Amy's relationship with Chatt?

I thought Ricardo is Amy's current boyfriend. Is that wrong?

[steffaroob4]

That is certainly out of character isn't it? Where there any other days that had lapses like this?

I have one more batch of days to convert, before I am finished. But, I definately need to start a list of lapses, since she os so phone active.

That 7 pm call, was a 2 minute call to Anthony home on the 18th.

[day2day]

She sure has a serious cell phone habit.

either her cell phone was shut off-or she was up to something. There is no way she would have missed that much phone time-imo

[steffaroob4]

After much research, there is very little talk time. She is the "texting queen". But thank God for her habits, so LE knows the general area she was during much of the tiem. I have no doubt that LE knows much more than we do. Does anyone know the Lexus connection?

I haven't looked at earlier records yet, I think it was Annie or maybe her dad.