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jbellaj
10-04-2008, 02:15 PM
I'm sure this sounds odd...but in a way, I'm glad Cindy showed her true colors to Tim Miller. She made a big mistake in making this personal and in revealing that she has no interest in having Caylee found now. TES may have backed off if they felt they had done a good search, and that the family was continuing to try to bring Caylee home when they had to go. Now, I think it has become a full blown crusade to prove that TES cares about victims, even when all others abandon them.
I think Tim will comb through every inch of that landfill by hand himself if need be, and walk every square foot of Florida if he has to in searching for Caylee...Being the kind of man he is, I imagine that Caylee has "become" his child.
If Tim cannot search any area himself, I know his supporters will give it an extra push to show their support of him and their drive to work for caylee and what she deserves from the world now.
This was always about Caylee, everyone searching wanted her found...now they(we) know she must be found by "outsiders" because this family has given up on bringing her home and turned their attention to slander and hate....it is more personal than ever because Cindy et al have proven they aren't focused on anything but discrediting those who wish to do what is right for Caylee's memory.
Caylee's family may have abandoned her the moment they felt she was "beyond hope" and decided they were willing to accept her fate, but so many have adopted her now that her "family" is nearly boundless.
If it takes years, I think the torch will be passed from person to person in the search for Caylee.
have no doubt, this is one who will be found or the search will never end.
JMO....Sorry for the typically long post!

IMO this is the post of the day :beer:

curiousD
10-04-2008, 02:19 PM
Casey and Cindy have such a volatile relationship....deep down I think they hate each other. Dont let this latest show of commradery fool ya..I really think before this is over...Casey will accuse Cindy.They cant seem to nail down with absolute certainty who saw Caylee last and JB will point the fingers elsewhere to create reasonable doubt...because thats really all he has.
Anyhoo...this will be the poetic justice..Casey turning on Cindy...Cindy now having to defend herself all the while knowing deep down she should have turned her daughter in long ago. The ultimate betrayal!
I really think this will happen and as sick as it is..I cant wait to seee it!!!!!:D

nc1948
10-04-2008, 02:19 PM
So if they tried to pull somethin like this-the state would have to bury her..in potter's field..right? ***criess......****

Think it would be ironic if they deny it is her, yet state proves with DNA it is, then the state can pull trust fund monies to take care of burial. Justice/karma

hamebone
10-04-2008, 02:21 PM
Casey and Cindy have such a volatile relationship....deep down I think they hate each other. Dont let this latest show of commradery fool ya..I really think before this is over...Casey will accuse Cindy.They cant seem to nail down with absolute certainty who saw Caylee last and JB will point the fingers elsewhere to create reasonable doubt...because thats really all he has.
Anyhoo...this will be the poetic justice..Casey turning on Cindy...Cindy now having to defend herself all the while knowing deep down she should have turned her daughter in long ago. The ultimate betrayal!
I really think this will happen and as sick as it is..I cant wait to seee it!!!!!:D

I agree, I think Casey will turn on Cindy.

bballgrl
10-04-2008, 02:22 PM
Hi Everyone. I don't usually post on the weekends.. but I can't help it today. Is there any new news today (well since yesterday?) I so want them to find Caylees body!

TIA

Cury-us Coyote
10-04-2008, 02:26 PM
7556 Municipal Dr, Orlando

1. Innovative Financial Services
2. Axis
3. I. Andrews

All 3 diffferent phone numbers.

http://www.andrewsinternational.com/contact/offices.html

kakax
10-04-2008, 02:27 PM
On another blog about this case, it has been reported that on Casey's facebook, her status is "searching for Caylee".

Whatever.

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 02:27 PM
Casey and Cindy have such a volatile relationship....deep down I think they hate each other. Dont let this latest show of commradery fool ya..I really think before this is over...Casey will accuse Cindy.They cant seem to nail down with absolute certainty who saw Caylee last and JB will point the fingers elsewhere to create reasonable doubt...because thats really all he has.
Anyhoo...this will be the poetic justice..Casey turning on Cindy...Cindy now having to defend herself all the while knowing deep down she should have turned her daughter in long ago. The ultimate betrayal!
I really think this will happen and as sick as it is..I cant wait to seee it!!!!!:D
I think you are spot on.

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 02:28 PM
I wonder why Amy would call and warn Casey she and Cindy were on the way to get her?I don't see anything about that in her interview. I guess that must be in the text messages? Maybe she was inquiring about her checkbook?

I also see in Amy's interview that she loaned Casey $80. for towing, but it's not clear when she did that. imo

Her interview follows Tony's in the pgs I noted in my previous link.

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 02:28 PM
I agree spirit. It takes a special person to do what Tim Miller does and to see him treated the way Cindy has treated him-makes me furious. Wasn't bad enough she gets on national tv and says she doesn't want anyone to help him search for a "not live Caylee"-she now tries to desroy his credibility and his name.

:no: ...Cindy -i hope you are reading ...YOU have made a huge mistake.


jmo

Ya know, if I were Tim, it would make me even more determined! I sure hope that Tim has not seen this. Oh how my heart aches for that man and how my whole entire soul grieves for his loss and applaud what he does. He and John Walsh are class acts along with others.

I had better stop, or I will be banned for sure as to what I think about this letter. I am absolutely (had to do it) outraged at this moment! Again...HOW DARE SHE??????

True colors have never been shown so vividly as they are with this family!

:rose:For Caylee

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 02:28 PM
On another blog about this case, it has been reported that on Casey's facebook, her status is "searching for Caylee".

Whatever.

She must be searching through the computer.:rolleyes:

kakax
10-04-2008, 02:28 PM
Hi Everyone. I don't usually post on the weekends.. but I can't help it today. Is there any new news today (well since yesterday?) I so want them to find Caylees body!

TIA

No new news that I am aware of. Supposedly Cindy wrote an email to someone accusing TES of stealing money. Don't really have a way to verify that person's statement though.

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 02:30 PM
On another blog about this case, it has been reported that on Casey's facebook, her status is "searching for Caylee".

Whatever.

No kidding, kakax...where is she looking, in her bedroom? GMAB!

desmom
10-04-2008, 02:30 PM
I just want to clear up something that has been discussed in the last couple of days that has repeatedly been erroneously stated.

When Amy and Cindy showed up at Tony's, Amy already knew Casey had taken her checkbook. After Cindy and Casey left, Tony found Amy's number on Casey's phone and called her. Apparently Casey left her phone at Tony's. Here's the link to Tony's interview with LE.

The info is on pgs 30-31.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf


I disagree.

Tony said "I was in the dark for about I don't know, two hours. And I figured, it was around eight o'clock, a little bit after eight o'clock because I remember I started watching the All Star game. And I was you know, worried. And I gave, I went to go text Casey and then realized, because her phone went off, that her phone was still at my place. So I checked her phone to find Amy's number because I saw Amy there. And I said, and I called up Amy to find out what was, just go what was go on between the two...."

Amy said on page 248 of the documents:

"Um, after they dropped me off probably about an hour after they dropped me off. I was like, I don't know how, but I feel like I should check my bank account. I was like I don't know how anything would've happened, but this seems like a good idea to just make sure. If anything I just checked it no big deal I just logged online. Um, checked it and my account was at zero."

jmo

day2day
10-04-2008, 02:33 PM
Think it would be ironic if they deny it is her, yet state proves with DNA it is, then the state can pull trust fund monies to take care of burial. Justice/karma

I was shocked to see that even mentioned in the trust. Another thing i added to my 'don't understand' list.
hammer

nana6
10-04-2008, 02:34 PM
IMO, they have confirmation evidence that Caylee is dead, what they need now is evidence as to the manner of death so they know exactly what level of homicide to charge casey anthony.

there ya go Regina. ITA

trich
10-04-2008, 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by Rayosunshine
Early on I had wondered if there might have been a plan - Casey cash the checks from Amy's account and Amy come back an claim her checkbook was stolen, as if it wasn't know who cashed the checks. Once Amy realized the seriousness of the situation, the tide turned.

Concerns me that Amy left her check book in her car. You'd think she would have taken that with her on her trip. My stuff is going to be with me, and I'll lock it up at my destination.

There is just something here that seems a little on the sly side - can't put my finger on it though.



I think Amy had her checkbook in the glove compartment.
But why would you take your check book on vacation?
I never do ...I use a debit or credit card or travelers checks.
Most people will not cash checks for people at vacation places or out of state for that matter.
No less out of the country.

The bigger question is why young people are so trusting even with their "so called friends"
I hope all of these have learned a lesson.....do not trust anyone.
Amy did not write those checks Casey did.....if Amy wanted Casey to have her money she would
have written the checks out to Casey...she would not have told Casey ...."oh just write yourself a check on my account"
Give me a break that does not make any sense at all. IMO

nana6
10-04-2008, 02:37 PM
Just popping in again so sorry if this has been addressed.

When I was down there I did NOT see any donation jars set up anywhere in or around the Command Center.......

Also remember the A's didn't go there because Tim was not looking for a "LIVE" Caylee which pizzed off Cindy. JMO

Will pop back in later.:seeya:

Well, you would think that Cindy would want Caylee back even if she was not with us anymore wouldn't you? I guess not. She only wanted Caylee back is she was alive!! This woman is frightening to me. AND, it is very very strange that NO ONE relative or otherwise has been to help them with anything not even itterviewd on the news, beside the players in this mess.

tiny paw-prints
10-04-2008, 02:37 PM
I agree, I think Casey will turn on Cindy.

The most incriminating evidence is usually withheld from the public until after an arrest, so it will be very interesting to see Cindy's phone records and text messages, especially during the "I've already given you 30 days" timeline!!

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 02:38 PM
I disagree.

Tony said "I was in the dark for about I don't know, two hours. And I figured, it was around eight o'clock, a little bit after eight o'clock because I remember I started watching the All Star game. And I was you know, worried. And I gave, I went to go text Casey and then realized, because her phone went off, that her phone was still at my place. So I checked her phone to find Amy's number because I saw Amy there. And I said, and I called up Amy to find out what was, just go what was go on between the two...."

Amy said on page 248 of the documents:

"Um, after they dropped me off probably about an hour after they dropped me off. I was like, I don't know how, but I feel like I should check my bank account. I was like I don't know how anything would've happened, but this seems like a good idea to just make sure. If anything I just checked it no big deal I just logged online. Um, checked it and my account was at zero."

jmoOh, thanks, I need to go read that again. I guess I didn't read far enough. Much appreciated, I stand corrected. You're good.

I think Casey must have been very upset to leave her phone at Tony's.
Did you get any idea when Amy loaned Casey the money for the tow?

I'm going to go read some more.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 02:40 PM
I don't see anything about that in her interview. I guess that must be in the text messages? Maybe she was inquiring about her checkbook?

I also see in Amy's interview that she loaned Casey $80. for towing, but it's not clear when she did that. imo

Her interview follows Tony's in the pgs I noted in my previous link.


It was discussed either late last night thread or this morning. IIRC it was from phone records.:shrug:

Pag Boi
10-04-2008, 02:40 PM
I just want to clear up something that has been discussed in the last couple of days that has repeatedly been erroneously stated.

When Amy and Cindy showed up at Tony's, Amy already knew Casey had taken her checkbook. After Cindy and Casey left, Tony found Amy's number on Casey's phone and called her. Apparently Casey left her phone at Tony's. Here's the link to Tony's interview with LE.

The info is on pgs 30-31.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-09/42528488.pdf

This is not true. :read: Amy's 7/16 statement. it was AFTER she was dropped off at Glenwood by C&C, She sends RM to the car to look for her ckbk while she goes on line to look at her balance which was zero. She was prompted to do this by a call from Lee or Cindy.

Amy knew her ckbk was missing. By the time Tony found it and called her, she had already closed the acct. She goes to pick it up after that interview.

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 02:41 PM
Originally Posted by Rayosunshine
Early on I had wondered if there might have been a plan - Casey cash the checks from Amy's account and Amy come back an claim her checkbook was stolen, as if it wasn't know who cashed the checks. Once Amy realized the seriousness of the situation, the tide turned.

Concerns me that Amy left her check book in her car. You'd think she would have taken that with her on her trip. My stuff is going to be with me, and I'll lock it up at my destination.

There is just something here that seems a little on the sly side - can't put my finger on it though.I don't see anything nefarious about that, if you're talking about Amy setting up Casey? I do think it was dumb for Amy to leave her checkbook in her car, but maybe she forgot about that in her excitement about her vacation. I agree, I sure wouldn't do that, but if someone told me I sleepwalked and lost $400, I wouldn't buy that, either. imo

trich
10-04-2008, 02:42 PM
trich
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alabama
Posts: 973

Originally Posted by Rayosunshine
Early on I had wondered if there might have been a plan - Casey cash the checks from Amy's account and Amy come back an claim her checkbook was stolen, as if it wasn't know who cashed the checks. Once Amy realized the seriousness of the situation, the tide turned.

Concerns me that Amy left her check book in her car. You'd think she would have taken that with her on her trip. My stuff is going to be with me, and I'll lock it up at my destination.

There is just something here that seems a little on the sly side - can't put my finger on it though.



I think Amy had her checkbook in the glove compartment.
But why would you take your check book on vacation?
I never do ...I use a debit or credit card or travelers checks.
Most people will not cash checks for people at vacation places or out of state for that matter.
No less out of the country.

The bigger question is why young people are so trusting even with their "so called friends"
I hope all of these have learned a lesson.....do not trust anyone.
Amy did not write those checks Casey did.....if Amy wanted Casey to have her money she would
have written the checks out to Casey...she would not have told Casey ...."oh just write yourself a check on my account"
Give me a break that does not make any sense at all. IMO

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 02:42 PM
This is not true. :read: Amy's 7/16 statement. it was AFTER she was dropped off at Glenwood by C&C, She sends RM to the car to look for her ckbk while she goes on line to look at her balance which was zero. She was prompted to do this by a call from Lee or Cindy.

Amy knew her ckbk was missing. By the time Tony found it and called her, she had already closed the acct. She goes to pick it up after that interview.Already corrected. :read:

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 02:45 PM
Heck blu..Many of us has stated that this is the toughest/strangest/mind blowing..on and on...case we have ever followered. Has certainly made my head spin. lol/jmo

You and me both.

:seeya:

Pag Boi
10-04-2008, 02:48 PM
Oh, thanks, I need to go read that again. I guess I didn't read far enough. Much appreciated, I stand corrected. You're good.

I think Casey must have been very upset to leave her phone at Tony's.
Did you get any idea when Amy loaned Casey the money for the tow?

I'm going to go read some more.



I don't think there was tow. Just Casey scamming another friend. Ryan and Cruz loaned her $400 for bogus stories. No telling who else did the same. Worthless wasted life that Casey is to date. JMOO

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 02:52 PM
Maybe because there is more than one ZG in the world. I think Casey did know a ZG, but not the one we were made aware of. Or, maybe Casey is psychic.

The ZG stuff has me a bit mystified. I cannot get over the fact she mentioned "Zenita" to Morales....well before all this happened. :confused:

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 02:54 PM
I think at that point, they would believe it was Caylee, they would just blame someone else for her death.

I don't think so. I honestly believe they will come to terms with whatever happened, involving Casey's guilt, eventually. It's just too much for them to face right now. Or maybe they ARE facing it, within the privacy of their home. It's very, very sad.

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 02:54 PM
I don't think there was tow. Just Casey scamming another friend. Ryan and Cruz loaned her $400 for bogus stories. No telling who else did the same. Worthless wasted life that Casey is to date. JMOOOMG! Will it never end? "What a waste, a huuuuge waste!" imo

johnielee333
10-04-2008, 02:55 PM
You are right again cryme! Zanny Amy..Zanny Jesse...ANYBODY but PPOF. I think their minds are really wrapped around the $$$....and the blame game.

jmo

Be back in a few~~:seeya:


what does PPOF mean ?

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 02:56 PM
ITA, I don't understand why they loan their cars to Casey either. Tony barely knew her, she supposedly didn't have a key to his apartment but she did have a key to his car?

It's kids.....I don't think we have any clue how kids are these days, at least speaking for myself. Well, I do have a son who is 23, I know HE wouldn't loan his car out...but I don't doubt that others do. My son isn't in a "partying" crowd though.

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 02:56 PM
ITA, I don't understand why they loan their cars to Casey either. Tony barely knew her, she supposedly didn't have a key to his apartment but she did have a key to his car?I'm wondering if he needed a ride to the airport, and a ride home later. I recall that he hadn't given her permission to actually use his car the whole time, but I don't know where to find that info. I'm still reading. imo

day2day
10-04-2008, 02:57 PM
what does PPOF mean ?

PrincessPantsOnFire..(sorry)

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 02:57 PM
what does PPOF mean ?

It's a supposedly "cutesie" ridiculing name for Casey. Like we as adults really need that. :rolleyes:

Princess Pants On Fire. Oh how clever, huh?

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 02:59 PM
It's a supposedly "cutesie" ridiculing name for Casey. Like we as adults really need that. :rolleyes:

Princess Pants On Fire. Oh how clever, huh?



The Princess apparently learned well from the Queen.:)

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 02:59 PM
It's a supposedly "cutesie" ridiculing name for Casey. Like we as adults really need that. :rolleyes:

Princess Pants On Fire. Oh how clever, huh?Geeze, Savannah, lighten up.

Rayosunshine
10-04-2008, 03:01 PM
I think she makes it up as she goes along.

Whitepages.com shows 13 ZGs in FL. In Casey's h.s. graduating class, there is 1 - Zenaida, 1 - Fernandez and 7 - Gonzalez>
http://www.colonialhigh.ocps.net/alumni/2004.htm

jmo

There is also a "zan" in Gloucester, MA on the phone list with area code 978.

Rayosunshine
10-04-2008, 03:02 PM
The Princess apparently learned well from the Queen.:)

And the "Queen" was probably the best teacher of all.

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:02 PM
Geeze, Savannah, lighten up.

I'm gonna remember that line when you go into your hystrionics, Joan. :) BTW, good afternoon! :seeya:

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:03 PM
It's a supposedly "cutesie" ridiculing name for Casey. Like we as adults really need that. :rolleyes:

Princess Pants On Fire. Oh how clever, huh?

Oh please...if ya don't like it-scroll! It really is THAT simple and really it is THE nicest thing i have heard her called in a LONG long time.

Rayosunshine
10-04-2008, 03:04 PM
OMG! Will it never end? "What a waste, a huuuuge waste!" imo

I thought it was like a spiral, but seems more like a helix.

Rayosunshine
10-04-2008, 03:06 PM
trich
Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Alabama
Posts: 973

Originally Posted by Rayosunshine
Early on I had wondered if there might have been a plan - Casey cash the checks from Amy's account and Amy come back an claim her checkbook was stolen, as if it wasn't know who cashed the checks. Once Amy realized the seriousness of the situation, the tide turned.

Concerns me that Amy left her check book in her car. You'd think she would have taken that with her on her trip. My stuff is going to be with me, and I'll lock it up at my destination.

There is just something here that seems a little on the sly side - can't put my finger on it though.



I think Amy had her checkbook in the glove compartment.
But why would you take your check book on vacation?
I never do ...I use a debit or credit card or travelers checks.
Most people will not cash checks for people at vacation places or out of state for that matter.
No less out of the country.

The bigger question is why young people are so trusting even with their "so called friends"
I hope all of these have learned a lesson.....do not trust anyone.
Amy did not write those checks Casey did.....if Amy wanted Casey to have her money she would
have written the checks out to Casey...she would not have told Casey ...."oh just write yourself a check on my account"
Give me a break that does not make any sense at all. IMO

You are making sense. Could be I need to try to think on their level. Better not, I might get too confused.

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:07 PM
Sorry if this has already been discussed................last night when I was watching Nancy Grace and they were showing Caseys car I was noticing how clean the bra was. No bug guts or anything! Could Casey have ran into Caylee with her car and covered any damage to the car with the bra? I am probably way off base but its just a thought. :shrug: Has the bra always been on the car or was it recently added? Meaning, before LE impounded it.


That would be one way to disguise it-add the bra!! I really have no clue?! I did notice how clean the car was-no squirrel guts or anything!!
hammer

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:07 PM
Oh please...if ya don't like it-scroll! It really is THAT simple and really it is THE nicest thing i have heard her called in a LONG long time.


Hey d2d, take your own advice and if YOU don't like MY posts, scroll on by. I read a post, I responded. This is what we ALL are allowed to do on here. I think it's childish beyond words to give a suspect a mocking name. I really do, though it seems to happen in ALL cases. I guess it gives posters a feeling of power or something, over the person they detest? I have a right to that opinion AND to state in on here, doncha think? :shrug:

I hope YOU have a good day as well.....I enjoy your posts. TIA. :seeya:

Cury-us Coyote
10-04-2008, 03:07 PM
I don't think there was tow. Just Casey scamming another friend. Ryan and Cruz loaned her $400 for bogus stories. No telling who else did the same. Worthless wasted life that Casey is to date. JMOO

IMO, there was a second tow. Remember the text msgs about partying and hitting a guardrail, getting two flat tires, ornamental damage to Pontiac (which Casey noted was her sole possession), the receipt GA found, AH mentioned she had cash and would be out that money also. GA confirmed vehicle towed to Hopesprings address.
jmo

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 03:08 PM
Oh please...if ya don't like it-scroll! It really is THAT simple and really it is THE nicest thing i have heard her called in a LONG long time.

I am with you and Joan! If SS doesn't like it, then scroll by. I am sure there are MANY names for this so called "mother of the year" by now, but this is truly the nicest out there.

:rose: For CAYLEE

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:08 PM
You are making sense. Could be I need to try to think on their level. Better not, I might get too confused.

Please don't! You would have to start lying and swinging hammer's. Your family wouldn't recognize you!! :seeya:

johnielee333
10-04-2008, 03:08 PM
princess pants on fire (Casey)

thanks :) i knew it meant casey but couldnt figure it out.

Kathlb
10-04-2008, 03:12 PM
On another blog about this case, it has been reported that on Casey's facebook, her status is "searching for Caylee".

Whatever.

Well, I guess if she's in the house under the computer, maybe. :rolleyes:
She is revolting!!!

Caylee, just for you baby :rose:

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:13 PM
I am with you and Joan! If SS doesn't like it, then scroll by. I am sure there are MANY names for this so called "mother of the year" by now, but this is truly the nicest out there.

:rose: For CAYLEE

MMhmm..and after the email discovery-Cindy is really workin on her new name! And to think they hold prayer vigils!! **shakes my head***
I guess lying and stealing might be allowed..as long as you pray about it.

jmo

johnielee333
10-04-2008, 03:13 PM
thanks ! to you all for answering my PPOF question.

trich
10-04-2008, 03:13 PM
I find it amazing that so many want to find something nefarious about Amy, and the rest of Casey's "friends".
Why can't it be seen that is was all Casey's doing and that she dragged them all into her fantasy...IMO their only guilt is in falling
for the lies that Casey told them.
The three went to PR at different times because of different schedules.
One actually coming from NY I believe.
If you read the interviews it tells where and why they each went when they did.

The only person guilty in this whole unfortunate situation is Casey and now her family for covering for the horrible things she has done.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 03:13 PM
IMO, there was a second tow. Remember the text msgs about partying and hitting a guardrail, getting two flat tires, ornamental damage to Pontiac (which Casey noted was her sole possession), the receipt GA found, AH mentioned she had cash and would be out that money also. GA confirmed vehicle towed to Hopesprings address.
jmo



I listened to George's audio again this morning and you are correct.

He also said the day he saw Casey driving Cindy's suv he saw her leave the house and tried to follow her. He said he called Cindy and asked her why Casey had the car and he couldn't understand why Cindy would tell LE she didn't know about it. When was the last time we saw George? Hope he's ok.:(

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:14 PM
thanks :) i knew it meant casey but couldnt figure it out.

Anytime-johnieelee!!

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:15 PM
thanks ! to you all for answering my PPOF question.


You're welcome! :seeya:

johnielee333
10-04-2008, 03:16 PM
On another blog about this case, it has been reported that on Casey's facebook, her status is "searching for Caylee".

Whatever.


it was - Casey is searching for Caylee. 12:14pm
but now its - Casey is thanking you all again for support. 1:09pm

i'm on her facebook now. if its really her.

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 03:17 PM
I'm gonna remember that line when you go into your hystrionics, Joan. :) BTW, good afternoon! You are a hypocrite, imo. It's OK to put labels on other posters, but the accused needs defending? :no:

Congratulations. :rolleyes:

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 03:17 PM
MMhmm..and after the email discovery-Cindy is really workin on her new name! And to think they hold prayer vigils!! **shakes my head***
I guess lying and stealing might be allowed..as long as you pray about it.

jmo

Isn't that the EXACT truth! I am still fuming over that e-mail! I called my sister and my son, who cover this case like I do, and they are apalled as well! I also found out that I am going to be a grandma again from my son and his wife!!!! But I will say this again, What goes around, Comes around. FIRM believer in this statement. I have seen it happen time and time again. These phony's will get theirs in the end. No doubt about it.

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:17 PM
Originally Posted by kakax
On another blog about this case, it has been reported that on Casey's facebook, her status is "searching for Caylee".

Whatever.

Now kakax!! You KNOW Cindy said-she has three people searching for Caylee...

George said he is searchin 24/7
Cindy said she is gonna knock on EVERY door ...
and well Casey is "event planning" on the puter!

It really is a family search. :flamemad:

jmo

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:19 PM
I find it amazing that so many want to find something nefarious about Amy, and the rest of Casey's "friends".
Why can't it be seen that is was all Casey's doing and that she dragged them all into her fantasy...IMO their only guilt is in falling
for the lies that Casey told them.
The three went to PR at different times because of different schedules.
One actually coming from NY I believe.
If you read the interviews it tells where and why they each went when they did.

The only person guilty in this whole unfortunate situation is Casey and now her family for covering for the horrible things she has done.

I agree that the only guilty party is Casey (do not agree about the parents though). I think what it is, is that some people are having a difficult time grasping that this case could be quite so "simple." Especially because of the fact Casey has not been charged with anything beyond her "economic" crimes and the neglect etc. stuff. It boggles the mind that there could be so much alleged CE, and no arrest, I guess. So some are looking for more. That's my best guess.

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 03:20 PM
Now kakax!! You KNOW Cindy said-she has three people searching for Caylee...

George said he is searchin 24/7
Cindy said she is gonna knock on EVERY door ...
and well Casey is "event planning" on the puter!

It really is a family search. :flamemad:

jmo

OH HE77 YEAH! I was trying all this time to figure out the THREE who were searching! GREAT JOB!!!!! ;)

:rose:For CAYLEE

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 03:20 PM
I listened to George's audio again this morning and you are correct.

He also said the day he saw Casey driving Cindy's suv he saw her leave the house and tried to follow her. He said he called Cindy and asked her why Casey had the car and he couldn't understand why Cindy would tell LE she didn't know about it. When was the last time we saw George? Hope he's ok.:(I think he's working. :shrug:

Brattnt
10-04-2008, 03:21 PM
thanks ! to you all for answering my PPOF question.
Thanks for asking what it meant Johnie!...I been tryin to figure it out for days...LOL

:seeya:

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 03:21 PM
A Note from the Anthony's
http://helpfindcaylee.blogspot.com/

johnielee333
10-04-2008, 03:22 PM
Thanks for asking what it meant Johnie!...I been tryin to figure it out for days...LOL

:seeya:


:seeya: i almost didnt ask but i couldnt stop myself. :biggrin:

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:23 PM
Isn't that the EXACT truth! I am still fuming over that e-mail! I called my sister and my son, who cover this case like I do, and they are apalled as well! I also found out that I am going to be a grandma again from my son and his wife!!!! But I will say this again, What goes around, Comes around. FIRM believer in this statement. I have seen it happen time and time again. These phony's will get theirs in the end. No doubt about it.

Oh believe me -it will take me a LONG time to get over that email. Well we don't have to "wonder" where Casey learned to lie from-her mama obviously taught her well. And believe me-Karma will get Cindy for the things she has done. It might take awhile-but she will pay her dues.
CONGRATS!!! I know you will spoil it rotten!!


jmo

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:23 PM
You are a hypocrite, imo. It's OK to put labels on other posters, but the accused needs defending? :no:

Congratulations. :rolleyes:


I hardly think that my belief that using a "childish" name for Casey is unnecessary, is defending her, Joan. Not in the least. I think she killed Caylee. Maybe you forgot that?

I think calling her PPOF tells more about the people who use that name for Casey, than it does about Casey herself. We know Casey lies....we all do, no matter how we differ in our opinions. But maybe you can tell ME what the purpose is in calling her by a "funny/clever" name? I know we are big on psychology here on this board.....so what does it tell us about the posters who use that term? It surely must mean something. ;)

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 03:25 PM
A Note from the Anthony's
http://helpfindcaylee.blogspot.com/Doesn't that baby look exactly like Cindy? :rose:

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 03:26 PM
I agree that the only guilty party is Casey (do not agree about the parents though). I think what it is, is that some people are having a difficult time grasping that this case could be quite so "simple." Especially because of the fact Casey has not been charged with anything beyond her "economic" crimes and the neglect etc. stuff. It boggles the mind that there could be so much alleged CE, and no arrest, I guess. So some are looking for more. That's my best guess.

With all due respect, NEVER lump me into what YOU think I am thinking! I have seen with MY OWN eyes and heard with MY OWN ears what these people have said and actually NOT DONE! PUHLEASE! You are right, you have a right to state your opinion, but for some reason you seem to spew YOUR opinion on others.

Don't!

I am looking for justice for Caylee. Unfortunately, her so called MOTHER nor her GRANDPARENTS are looking for that, now are they? It has been a constant of finger pointing in other directions and on other innocent people. THAT IS FACT! When you have FACT, there is no need to look for more, is there? Looks like what most of the posters here are saying is what has been given by the very people that YOU are trying to say we detest!

If the shoe fits, then perhape THEY should wear it!

:rose: For Caylee

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 03:27 PM
I hardly think that my belief that using a "childish" name for Casey is unnecessary, is defending her, Joan. Not in the least. I think she killed Caylee. Maybe you forgot that?

I think calling her PPOF tells more about the people who use that name for Casey, than it does about Casey herself. We know Casey lies....we all do, no matter how we differ in our opinions. But maybe you can tell ME what the purpose is in calling her by a "funny/clever" name? I know we are big on psychology here on this board.....so what does it tell us about the posters who use that term? It surely must mean something. ;)It means that YOU are no better than anyone else, imo.

I think that term PPOF is hilarious. So sue me. Have a good day. :seeya:

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:27 PM
Must be regulars at the Catholic confessionals.

There ya go----i forgot about the rosary beads!! :punch: <--for me!

bchand
10-04-2008, 03:29 PM
A Note from the Anthony's
http://helpfindcaylee.blogspot.com/


Oh so anyone can leave a comment there? That would be interesting.

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:29 PM
With all due respect, NEVER lump me into what YOU think I am thinking! I have seen with MY OWN eyes and heard with MY OWN ears what these people have said and actually NOT DONE! PUHLEASE! You are right, you have a right to state your opinion, but for some reason you seem to spew YOUR opinion on others.

Don't!

I am looking for justice for Caylee. Unfortunately, her so called MOTHER nor her GRANDPARENTS are looking for that, now are they? It has been a constant of finger pointing in other directions and on other innocent people. THAT IS FACT! When you have FACT, there is no need to look for more, is there? Looks like what most of the posters here are saying is what has been given by the very people that YOU are trying to say we detest!

If the shoe fits, then perhape THEY should wear it!

:rose: For Caylee

Ummmmmm, were you asking questions about Amy? Did you read the post I was responding to?

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:29 PM
OH HE77 YEAH! I was trying all this time to figure out the THREE who were searching! GREAT JOB!!!!! ;)

:rose:For CAYLEE

Yea -im a pretty smart cookie..when it comes right down to it! :read:

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 03:30 PM
Doesn't that baby look exactly like Cindy? :rose:
Indeed. That first picture of her looking up breaks my heart. She looks like an absolute angel. :rose:

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 03:30 PM
Hi all. I was under the impression from the start that Casey was the one who paid for the trips to PR- out of her stolen funds- and in my own mind thats why Amy and Tony had 'no problem' letting Casey use their vehicles while they were out of town, she did, after all, pay for the trip. Why PR? why didn't they all go at the same time? Why the interest in PR? Is is a cheap trip from Fla to go there?
Anyway, my main question is- did Casey pay for their trips?


IMO- some ppl are not conscientious abut where they leave checkbooks, debit cards, etc. In the glovebox, in the little thingie between the two front seats, in a ceramic bowl in the house by the front door, along w/ keys and such- my 3 kids all have these (bad) habits. didn't get it from me, I have a safe and hide my checkbook in the house, even.I have seen nothing to back up the assertion that Casey paid for their trips. Didn't that start as a rumor because of the rumor that Cindy's credit card debt was so high? :confused: imo

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:31 PM
It means that YOU are no better than anyone else, imo.

I think that term PPOF is hilarious. So sue me. Have a good day. :seeya:

I do too. Always have and really a kind nickname!! We all know and have read much worse. :shrug:

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 03:31 PM
Oh so anyone can leave a comment there? That would be interesting.

LOL, I had one typed out but thought better of it.

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 03:32 PM
Oh believe me -it will take me a LONG time to get over that email. Well we don't have to "wonder" where Casey learned to lie from-her mama obviously taught her well. And believe me-Karma will get Cindy for the things she has done. It might take awhile-but she will pay her dues.
CONGRATS!!! I know you will spoil it rotten!!


jmo

YEP! YEP! YEP!!!!! What we do not see today, may happen tomorrow or never in our lifetime, but IT WILL happen to those who are horrible people.

Casey has had nothing but learned behavior over her lifetime. She has never had help (with the exception of the possibility of getting help RIGHT before Caylee went missing. TOO LITTLE TOO LATE!) and she has had free reign to lie, cheat, steal and do anything that she has wanted to do. There has never been boundries, no rules, no anything. Isn't this learned behavior and striking out? Trust me, I don't feel bad for her, but I certainly do not feel bad for those who led her to this lifestyle either. Her parents are as much to blame as she is. I am seeing and hearing this everyday.

Thanks! YOU KNOW I WILL! LOL

:rose:For Caylee

kakax
10-04-2008, 03:33 PM
A Note from the Anthony's
http://helpfindcaylee.blogspot.com/

That is a very interesting site Willow, thank you for sharing it! Under that, there is a very interesting post by Michelle....who is she? Do you know?

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 03:34 PM
That is a very interesting site Willow, thank you for sharing it! Under that, there is a very interesting post by Michelle....who is she? Do you know?
YW. I was trying to figure that out as well, I am assuming she is a family friend.

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 03:35 PM
I hardly think that my belief that using a "childish" name for Casey is unnecessary, is defending her, Joan. Not in the least. I think she killed Caylee. Maybe you forgot that?

I think calling her PPOF tells more about the people who use that name for Casey, than it does about Casey herself. We know Casey lies....we all do, no matter how we differ in our opinions. But maybe you can tell ME what the purpose is in calling her by a "funny/clever" name? I know we are big on psychology here on this board.....so what does it tell us about the posters who use that term? It surely must mean something. ;)Oh, and furthermore, this board isn't about other posters, and it's not your stage. :no:

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:35 PM
It means that YOU are no better than anyone else, imo.

I think that term PPOF is hilarious. So sue me. Have a good day. :seeya:

First sentence: not at all responsive to my question. That's okay.

I know you think it is hilarious! You have a good day too! :seeya:

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:36 PM
Oh so anyone can leave a comment there? That would be interesting.

I cannot explain the lies or why Casey went down the path she did in life, but there is no evidence that she has killed or harmed her daughter at this point.

At this point? Ohmylord. Is there any explanation why Cindy chose to lie to LE for over an hour about the nanny?

sighs...

jmo

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 03:38 PM
YEP! YEP! YEP!!!!! What we do not see today, may happen tomorrow or never in our lifetime, but IT WILL happen to those who are horrible people.

Casey has had nothing but learned behavior over her lifetime. She has never had help (with the exception of the possibility of getting help RIGHT before Caylee went missing. TOO LITTLE TOO LATE!) and she has had free reign to lie, cheat, steal and do anything that she has wanted to do. There has never been boundries, no rules, no anything. Isn't this learned behavior and striking out? Trust me, I don't feel bad for her, but I certainly do not feel bad for those who led her to this lifestyle either. Her parents are as much to blame as she is. I am seeing and hearing this everyday.

Thanks! YOU KNOW I WILL! LOL

:rose:For Caylee

Congrats. Today is my grandson's first birthday, too bad he is many states away.:(
I totally agree with your whole post. I pray that Caylee will be found soon and that Casey will be haunted the rest of her life. Is that bad?

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 03:38 PM
YW. I was trying to figure that out as well, I am assuming she is a family friend.



Same here. That family has friends? Who does that site belong to?

trich
10-04-2008, 03:38 PM
I have seen nothing to back up the assertion that Casey paid for their trips. Didn't that start as a rumor because of the rumor that Cindy's credit card debt was so high? :confused: imo

I think that she had said she would pay for the tickets but of course it never happened.
Just another one of her lies and deceits she perpetrated on those unsuspecting friends of hers.

barskin&co.
10-04-2008, 03:38 PM
I agree. There is something nefarious about the whole situation. I am not going to read the whole thing again, but what is this about (3) of Casey's friends going to Puerto Rico at different times? Do you know?
Amy does not strike me just quite as angelic as she would have the public believe. She was going to be the room mate to Casey and Caylee, and WHERE did all that money Casey stole go? For what? Nobody seems to be able to answer that. We are talking over 50,000.00. That is a LOT of money for someone.

They were taking different flights because they were on different schedules and even coming from different places. They are three unrelated adults; they live their own lives and are not joined at the hip.
No one has called Amy "angelic." She is just a normal, working person who is not a thief or a person who "misplaces" her own cild and lies to the police about it.
Amy was going to room with Casey, because she didn't know Casey was unemployed and lying about everything. It is not exactly known how much money Casey stole. Apparently the figures was stated at 4 to 5 thousand and misheard as "45,000." At any rate, Casey stole it, and Amy didn't know anything about it until Cindy told her on July 15.

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:39 PM
YW. I was trying to figure that out as well, I am assuming she is a family friend.

I wonder also. I thought she made a very good post.

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:41 PM
I have never seen links or back- up on that either. Jeez, if it really is just a rumor, I am back to wondering WHAT she did with all that money?

I am past the point where I can seperate links facts rumors and speculation. My brain runneth over. As of the other day I am just along for the ride, to ask q's here and there, hope for the best, pray for caylee. Is anyone else totally overwhelmed? I know that missing days at a time hasn't helped me. I am usually on top of a case, daily.
I hardly even feel qualified to chime in anymore, so far behind.

:rose:Caylee, WE will not let you down.

(Is Tim Miller really on his way back to Florida?

SS- did anything come of the BK search? tia everyone.

Hi BF! Can't search Northern Ohio until Monday, site is down. Southern Ohio only shows BK for George R. Anthony, and another for Cindy Denise Anthony, neither of which I think are the ones we are looking for.

Roux
10-04-2008, 03:41 PM
I tend to believe that Savannah is a much better person than at least 99 percent of the posters on this forum.

moo

That is a totally uncalled for comment. You can stick up for SS without denigrating and insulting 99 per cent of other posters. You don't know us and it is rude, crude and ignorant to make such a remark.

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:41 PM
I tend to believe that Savannah is a much better person than at least 99 percent of the posters on this forum.

moo


:eek: Oh my! What a nice post. Prepare for bashing though. :seeya:

5boxersmom
10-04-2008, 03:42 PM
What email is everyone talking about?


TIA

tiny paw-prints
10-04-2008, 03:42 PM
I listened to George's audio again this morning and you are correct.

He also said the day he saw Casey driving Cindy's suv he saw her leave the house and tried to follow her. He said he called Cindy and asked her why Casey had the car and he couldn't understand why Cindy would tell LE she didn't know about it. When was the last time we saw George? Hope he's ok.:(

My interepretation of GA's interview with LE is that he originally told the FBI about that incident with the agreement that FBI would not reveal the info to anyone, including LE. GA learned that LE did know about it, and apologized that they inadvertently revealed that info to CA during their interview with her.

If Casey took off driving Cindy's SUV, then where was the Pontiac during that incident? Was Caylee's body in the Pontiac? Was George driving the Pontiac while "following" Casey driving Cindy's SUV?

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 03:42 PM
Congrats. Today is my grandson's first birthday, too bad he is many states away.:(
I totally agree with your whole post. I pray that Caylee will be found soon and that Casey will be haunted the rest of her life. Is that bad?


Thanks Willow! My new grandbaby will be 1800 miles away, but this grandma will be there when he/she is born! :)

No, sweetie, it is not bad to think that way at all. When you see an innocent little one, who has probably been taken from this world by her own mother, and never had a chance nor could defend herself, then you wanting Casey to be haunted for the rest of her life is normal. IMO. I truly hope that she goes through more than that, and I have to literally pray for myself daily because I feel that way. But just being haunted for what she probably has done anyway, you are not a bad person at all!!!!!

:rose:For you and CAYLEE

ETA: HAPPY BIRTHDAY Willow's grandbaby!!!!!

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:43 PM
YEP! YEP! YEP!!!!! What we do not see today, may happen tomorrow or never in our lifetime, but IT WILL happen to those who are horrible people.

Casey has had nothing but learned behavior over her lifetime. She has never had help (with the exception of the possibility of getting help RIGHT before Caylee went missing. TOO LITTLE TOO LATE!) and she has had free reign to lie, cheat, steal and do anything that she has wanted to do. There has never been boundries, no rules, no anything. Isn't this learned behavior and striking out? Trust me, I don't feel bad for her, but I certainly do not feel bad for those who led her to this lifestyle either. Her parents are as much to blame as she is. I am seeing and hearing this everyday.

Thanks! YOU KNOW I WILL! LOL

:rose:For Caylee

I think alot about how Caylee could have been saved. Cindy and George could have had Casey arrested a LONG time ago -but they chose not to. Instead they coddled her and allowed her to continue on her path...and see where it got them?
If they think its bad now-just wait til Casey is charged. They will be extremely lucky if THEY aren't charged and the trial will be brutal. They have told so many lies they will never be able to keep them straight.

jmo

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 03:45 PM
I have never seen links or back- up on that either. Jeez, if it really is just a rumor, I am back to wondering WHAT she did with all that money?

I am past the point where I can seperate links facts rumors and speculation. My brain runneth over. As of the other day I am just along for the ride, to ask q's here and there, hope for the best, pray for caylee. Is anyone else totally overwhelmed? I know that missing days at a time hasn't helped me. I am usually on top of a case, daily.
I hardly even feel qualified to chime in anymore, so far behind.

:rose:Caylee, WE will not let you down.

(Is Tim Miller really on his way back to Florida?

SS- did anything come of the BK search? tia everyone.


Keep on posting. You could't possibly be any more confused than the rest of us.:D

steffaroob4
10-04-2008, 03:47 PM
Let's see if this works. (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106425559040462351765.000458711d5f086490425&ll=28.480763,-81.070862&spn=0.564917,0.878906&z=10)

The flag is Anythony home, I added Amy's house and Fusian only, so as not to clutter up the map.

These are all of the towers she was near on the dates of June 23. 12:10pm to June 27th, 11:45pm

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:47 PM
Keep on posting. You could't possibly be any more confused than the rest of us.:D

Oy vey. YES. Include me on that. :seeya:

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 03:47 PM
Hi BF! Can't search Northern Ohio until Monday, site is down. Southern Ohio only shows BK for George R. Anthony, and another for Cindy Denise Anthony, neither of which I think are the ones we are looking for.



How far back do they keep the records? It's been what about 20 years ago?

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 03:47 PM
I tend to believe that Savannah is a much better person than at least 99 percent of the posters on this forum.

mooJudging other posters doesn't make anyone a "better person," and look where this comment is coming from. Another judge. :rolleyes:

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 03:49 PM
Judging other posters doesn't make anyone a "better person," and look where this comment is coming from. Another judge. :rolleyes:

And you haven't judged.....:cool: Uh huh.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 03:49 PM
My interepretation of GA's interview with LE is that he originally told the FBI about that incident with the agreement that FBI would not reveal the info to anyone, including LE. GA learned that LE did know about it, and apologized that they inadvertently revealed that info to CA during their interview with her.

If Casey took off driving Cindy's SUV, then where was the Pontiac during that incident? Was Caylee's body in the Pontiac? Was George driving the Pontiac while "following" Casey driving Cindy's SUV?


I think FBI and LE knew exactly what they were doing when they revealed that info to Cindy. I think they were giving George a little help by warning him Cindy knew.:shrug:

bchand
10-04-2008, 03:49 PM
That is a very interesting site Willow, thank you for sharing it! Under that, there is a very interesting post by Michelle....who is she? Do you know?


Hi kakax - it's her site apparently and she's appalled at the reaction she's gotten for it I guess.

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 03:50 PM
I think alot about how Caylee could have been saved. Cindy and George could have had Casey arrested a LONG time ago -but they chose not to. Instead they coddled her and allowed her to continue on her path...and see where it got them?
If they think its bad now-just wait til Casey is charged. They will be extremely lucky if THEY aren't charged and the trial will be brutal. They have told so many lies they will never be able to keep them straight.

jmo

They surely have told so many lies. I have found myself thinking over and over again about LE and just how they have had to trace every lie that has come out of that whole entire family. I could not have been easy on them. I just cannot imagine being them and being as professional as they have been.

Cindy and Goerge should have had help for this girl a long long time ago. Easier to just let it be, than to except that perhaps they were not in control of Casey as they had thought and get help, huh?

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 03:50 PM
And you haven't judged.....:cool: Uh huh.That's true. I judge you hypocritical. imo

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 03:51 PM
My interepretation of GA's interview with LE is that he originally told the FBI about that incident with the agreement that FBI would not reveal the info to anyone, including LE. GA learned that LE did know about it, and apologized that they inadvertently revealed that info to CA during their interview with her.

If Casey took off driving Cindy's SUV, then where was the Pontiac during that incident? Was Caylee's body in the Pontiac? Was George driving the Pontiac while "following" Casey driving Cindy's SUV?


Since Cindy denied to LE she knew anything about it and since George never said what Cindy said when he asked her about it was Cindy driving the Sunfire?

bchand
10-04-2008, 03:51 PM
Of course not. Try.

Your comment has been saved and will be visible after blog owner approval.


Thanks commonguymd, why am I not surprised?

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 03:53 PM
They surely have told so many lies. I have found myself thinking over and over again about LE and just how they have had to trace every lie that has come out of that whole entire family. I could not have been easy on them. I just cannot imagine being them and being as professional as they have been.

Cindy and Goerge should have had help for this girl a long long time ago. Easier to just let it be, than to except that perhaps they were not in control of Casey as they had thought and get help, huh?Strange, that. Casey did tell Lee something on that order, the night Cindy called 911.

curiousD
10-04-2008, 03:53 PM
I find it amazing that so many want to find something nefarious about Amy, and the rest of Casey's "friends".
Why can't it be seen that is was all Casey's doing and that she dragged them all into her fantasy...IMO their only guilt is in falling
for the lies that Casey told them.
The three went to PR at different times because of different schedules.
One actually coming from NY I believe.
If you read the interviews it tells where and why they each went when they did.

The only person guilty in this whole unfortunate situation is Casey and now her family for covering for the horrible things she has done.

i agree totally..EVERYTHING isnt sinister!

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:56 PM
They surely have told so many lies. I have found myself thinking over and over again about LE and just how they have had to trace every lie that has come out of that whole entire family. I could not have been easy on them. I just cannot imagine being them and being as professional as they have been.

Cindy and Goerge should have had help for this girl a long long time ago. Easier to just let it be, than to except that perhaps they were not in control of Casey as they had thought and get help, huh?

It seems Cindy can't see the problem because she suffers from it also! Casey really only blamed the Nanny. Cindy has blamed everyone from the Nanny to Santa Claus and adds names daily. I think the whole lot of them need help!!

:D

jmo

day2day
10-04-2008, 03:57 PM
Well, I'm surprised you could pull yourself away from defending OJ and criticizing his unfair trial, Squeaky.

:eek: ...Karma i tell ya!!

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 03:58 PM
Strange, that. Casey did tell Lee something on that order, the night Cindy called 911.


Hiya Joan! :seeya: And who knows how long this girl may have been shouting out for help with all she has done through the years. Again, I am not sticking up for Casey, for there comes a time in your life where you grow up and take responsibility, but what if, just what if, she was never taught to do this? Things like this go through my head a lot and then I look at what probably has happened to her little angel and there is no forgiving that.

I dunno, I just think that this family is all whacko and they truly deserve each other.

:rose:For CAYLEE

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 04:00 PM
Since she has the ankle bracelet and is confined to the house and can't leave except for approved reasons how else could she search. Can't see her saying "hey Mom can I borrow your car for awhile to look for Caylee" or "can I use your credit card to book a flight to PR"

JMOBut Cindy could...

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 04:00 PM
But Cindy could...

Cindy, George and Lee could.

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 04:00 PM
It seems Cindy can't see the problem because she suffers from it also! Casey really only blamed the Nanny. Cindy has blamed everyone from the Nanny to Santa Claus and adds names daily. I think the whole lot of them need help!!

:D

jmo

I am with ya all the way!!! :beer:

Wonder who will get the blame next? There is always the tooth fairy who perhaps forgot one night to bring PPOF a crisp new dollar for a tooth? :shrug:

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 04:01 PM
Hiya Joan! :seeya: And who knows how long this girl may have been shouting out for help with all she has done through the years. Again, I am not sticking up for Casey, for there comes a time in your life where you grow up and take responsibility, but what if, just what if, she was never taught to do this? Things like this go through my head a lot and then I look at what probably has happened to her little angel and there is no forgiving that.

I dunno, I just think that this family is all whacko and they truly deserve each other.

:rose:For CAYLEEAbsolutely. Why Casey could see that, and not correct herself is a debate in itself. imo

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 04:01 PM
But Cindy could...



Cindy, George, Lee But they don't. And they have been lying since the first 911 call. Why???:confused:

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 04:03 PM
Cindy, George and Lee could.I stand corrected. hammer

Acorn
10-04-2008, 04:04 PM
I cannot explain the lies or why Casey went down the path she did in life, but there is no evidence that she has killed or harmed her daughter at this point.

At this point? Ohmylord. Is there any explanation why Cindy chose to lie to LE for over an hour about the nanny?

sighs...

jmo

I'll bet they wished they could have taken out her battery pack or unplugged her... she just wouldn't shut up about that.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 04:05 PM
Absolutely. Why Casey could see that, and not correct herself is a debate in itself. imo


Because it's what she's known since she's been born. Now George is a different matter. Unless that was the way he was raised. Cindy has been Cindy for a long time. It didn't start with this. I wonder what Cindy's counselor is thinking after hearing this mess. I bet she realizes Cindy didn't quite tell her the truth.

tiny paw-prints
10-04-2008, 04:05 PM
Since Cindy denied to LE she knew anything about it and since George never said what Cindy said when he asked her about it was Cindy driving the Sunfire?

I've just been really curious as to where the Pontiac was during that "chase" incident! I'm thinking a "dead body" should have been in the trunk of the Pontiac at that time. George said Casey was driving Cindy's vehicle and he was following her. Was the car parked in the driveway? Was George driving it? Was Cindy driving it?

spiritwolf46
10-04-2008, 04:06 PM
Well all, off to get ready to go to a Ohio State party.

PLEASE, as I know you all do, pray for Caylee and let's add Tim and his searchers along with all the posters who are here for CAYLEE!

:rose: For you all!

Have a GREAT EVENING! :seeya:

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 04:07 PM
I stand corrected. hammer



LOL :no:hammer yourself. It's this case not you.

curiousD
10-04-2008, 04:07 PM
38 posts..:rolleyes:

She couldnt POSSIBLY know what shes talking about with only 38 posts!!!!!
The pecking order goes by the number of posts I guess.
Good to know.

desmom
10-04-2008, 04:07 PM
Oh, thanks, I need to go read that again. I guess I didn't read far enough. Much appreciated, I stand corrected. You're good.

I think Casey must have been very upset to leave her phone at Tony's.
Did you get any idea when Amy loaned Casey the money for the tow?

I'm going to go read some more.

Without going back and re-reading, I think it was when she had the 2 flat tires in May. jmo

day2day
10-04-2008, 04:10 PM
I am with ya all the way!!! :beer:

Wonder who will get the blame next? There is always the tooth fairy who perhaps forgot one night to bring PPOF a crisp new dollar for a tooth? :shrug:

lol.. her new defense-the tooth fairy did it!! At least Casey kept it with one person. Cindy will just toss out everyones name and see if it "sticks"...amazing...

kakax
10-04-2008, 04:11 PM
Let's see if this works. (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=106425559040462351765.000458711d5f086490425&ll=28.480763,-81.070862&spn=0.564917,0.878906&z=10)

The flag is Anythony home, I added Amy's house and Fusian only, so as not to clutter up the map.

These are all of the towers she was near on the dates of June 23. 12:10pm to June 27th, 11:45pm


Wow Steff!! Ty so much for doing that....it is very easy to read unlike some other maps I have seen!!!

Thanks for the hard work on this!

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 04:11 PM
I've just been really curious as to where the Pontiac was during that "chase" incident! I'm thinking a "dead body" should have been in the trunk of the Pontiac at that time. George said Casey was driving Cindy's vehicle and he was following her. Was the car parked in the driveway? Was George driving it? Was Cindy driving it?


I just keep getting more questions the more I read and go back and listen. I just can't make myself watch Cindy's again yet and I need to.
IMO she lies more than anyone of them. Why?

kakax
10-04-2008, 04:13 PM
Well all, off to get ready to go to a Ohio State party.

PLEASE, as I know you all do, pray for Caylee and let's add Tim and his searchers along with all the posters who are here for CAYLEE!

:rose: For you all!

Have a GREAT EVENING! :seeya:



At least you are doing something adult related...we are about to go see Beverly Hill Chihuahua LOL!!

:seeya: Have a good evening!!

day2day
10-04-2008, 04:16 PM
Well all, off to get ready to go to a Ohio State party.

PLEASE, as I know you all do, pray for Caylee and let's add Tim and his searchers along with all the posters who are here for CAYLEE!

:rose: For you all!

Have a GREAT EVENING! :seeya:

Have a great night! (i am so jealous)!! And yes we really do need to remember Tim as he travels and especially when he gets there!!
:seeya:

Roux
10-04-2008, 04:21 PM
She couldnt POSSIBLY know what shes talking about with only 38 posts!!!!!
The pecking order goes by the number of posts I guess.
Good to know.

Number of posts has nothing to do with it as far as I'm concerned. I just don't like someone insulting me when they don't know me, whether they have 2 posts or 2M posts.

Kathlb
10-04-2008, 04:23 PM
I guess that means you feel you are among that 99 percent. I agree.

Well, if I happen to be in that percentage, I feel I'm in pretty good company. Really... great company. :D:rose:

day2day
10-04-2008, 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by steffaroob4
Let's see if this works.

The flag is Anythony home, I added Amy's house and Fusian only, so as not to clutter up the map.

These are all of the towers she was near on the dates of June 23. 12:10pm to June 27th, 11:45pm

Omygosh steff! Thanks so much! Great job-you have put lots of effort into this- i for one appreciate it!!

bballgrl
10-04-2008, 04:24 PM
No new news that I am aware of. Supposedly Cindy wrote an email to someone accusing TES of stealing money. Don't really have a way to verify that person's statement though.

Thanks KaKax..... I guess as they say: No news is Good News :shrug:

bballgrl
10-04-2008, 04:25 PM
At least you are doing something adult related...we are about to go see Beverly Hill Chihuahua LOL!!

:seeya: Have a good evening!!

O/T - It's Nights in Rodanthe for me this evening. Girls night out (I hear I should bring tissues) :rolleyes:

Joan Weiss
10-04-2008, 04:27 PM
Without going back and re-reading, I think it was when she had the 2 flat tires in May. jmoThank you. :)

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 04:29 PM
O/T - It's Nights in Rodanthe for me this evening. Girls night out (I hear I should bring tissues) :rolleyes:
I want to go see that so bad, maybe I can talk my daughter into going with me. Shame Casey will never have mother/daughter times like that.

frances1
10-04-2008, 04:30 PM
Hi all. I was under the impression from the start that Casey was the one who paid for the trips to PR- out of her stolen funds- and in my own mind thats why Amy and Tony had 'no problem' letting Casey use their vehicles while they were out of town, she did, after all, pay for the trip. Why PR? why didn't they all go at the same time? Why the interest in PR? Is is a cheap trip from Fla to go there?
Anyway, my main question is- did Casey pay for their trips?


IMO- some ppl are not conscientious abut where they leave checkbooks, debit cards, etc. In the glovebox, in the little thingie between the two front seats, in a ceramic bowl in the house by the front door, along w/ keys and such- my 3 kids all have these (bad) habits. didn't get it from me, I have a safe and hide my checkbook in the house, even.

I don't think Tony went to Puerto Rico.

desmom
10-04-2008, 04:30 PM
Wow Steff!! Ty so much for doing that....it is very easy to read unlike some other maps I have seen!!!

Thanks for the hard work on this!

Ditto!


Thanks!

tiny paw-prints
10-04-2008, 04:30 PM
But Cindy could...

Caylee went to the beach with Nanny and Grandma? On the same day the Pontiac was abandoned at Amscot? Strange.

Per Amy's statement:

June 27 2008
Casey calls Amy and tells her about the horrible smell in her car and that Casey had ran out of gas again – 2 Fridays in a row, Caylee was at the beach with Nanny and Grandma (Cindy) Page 50 – 52

kakax
10-04-2008, 04:36 PM
O/T - It's Nights in Rodanthe for me this evening. Girls night out (I hear I should bring tissues) :rolleyes:

I avoid those because I look like I have been hit in both eyes after tear jerkers LOL!!

Have fun!

Guess I won't be getting any of the great candy in the kitty...My guess was she would be arrested by Sunday night. Waaaa!

crymeariver2006
10-04-2008, 04:37 PM
Hi kakax - it's her site apparently and she's appalled at the reaction she's gotten for it I guess.


Kind of ironic that she trashes Nancy Grace, yet NG is listed as one of her "resources" and there's a photo of Caylee captioned "Courtesy of Nancy Grace".

Go figure.

:shrug:

margaret kep
10-04-2008, 04:38 PM
I don't see anything nefarious about that, if you're talking about Amy setting up Casey? I do think it was dumb for Amy to leave her checkbook in her car, but maybe she forgot about that in her excitement about her vacation. I agree, I sure wouldn't do that, but if someone told me I sleepwalked and lost $400, I wouldn't buy that, either. imo


I wouldn't buy it either but.....seems like Casey never did anything to Amy that would arouse suspicion. Leaving her checkbook in her car tells me Amy had confidence in Casey. Casey took advantage of the checkbook in my mind because she figured oh well if I'm going to jail for the situation of CAYLEE, might as well do everything illegal I can get away with for a while. JMO JMO

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 04:38 PM
I avoid those because I look like I have been hit in both eyes after tear jerkers LOL!!

Have fun!

Guess I won't be getting any of the great candy in the kitty...My guess was she would be arrested by Sunday night. Waaaa!
Don't feel bad, I just knew it was going to happen yesterday.

day2day
10-04-2008, 04:40 PM
I'll bet they wished they could have taken out her battery pack or unplugged her... she just wouldn't shut up about that.

lol @battery pack!! she probly still woulda kept talkin!! jmo

crymeariver2006
10-04-2008, 04:41 PM
I've just been really curious as to where the Pontiac was during that "chase" incident! I'm thinking a "dead body" should have been in the trunk of the Pontiac at that time. George said Casey was driving Cindy's vehicle and he was following her. Was the car parked in the driveway? Was George driving it? Was Cindy driving it?

Did it actually happen between 6/15 and 7/15?

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 04:42 PM
Caylee went to the beach with Nanny and Grandma? On the same day the Pontiac was abandoned at Amscot? Strange.

Per Amy's statement:

June 27 2008
Casey calls Amy and tells her about the horrible smell in her car and that Casey had ran out of gas again – 2 Fridays in a row, Caylee was at the beach with Nanny and Grandma (Cindy) Page 50 – 52


When listening to George again this morning he said the day he saw Casey driving Cindy's car was around the 22-24. In Cindy's statement she says she never went to the beach with Caylee which at the time I found odd cause they live in Florida. Funny how a lot of what Cindy says just doesn't jive with what other family members say.:shrug:

tiny paw-prints
10-04-2008, 04:43 PM
I just keep getting more questions the more I read and go back and listen. I just can't make myself watch Cindy's again yet and I need to.
IMO she lies more than anyone of them. Why?

Good question....

She's also more freaked out than anyone of them.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 04:44 PM
Did it actually happen between 6/15 and 7/15?



George said around 22-24 of June. He wasn't sure what day exactly.

I wonder if any of their vehicles have GPS LE could check.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 04:46 PM
Good question....

She's also more freaked out than anyone of them.


ITA and George and Casey are scared of her. More scared of her than they are of LE.

kakax
10-04-2008, 04:46 PM
George said around 22-24 of June. He wasn't sure what day exactly.

I wonder if any of their vehicles have GPS LE could check.

Hopefully the E pass records will help confirm it.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 04:48 PM
Hopefully the E pass records will help confirm it.



That's what he told LE to check. Sure wish they'd tell us what they found out.

day2day
10-04-2008, 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by kakax
No new news that I am aware of. Supposedly Cindy wrote an email to someone accusing TES of stealing money. Don't really have a way to verify that person's statement though.

I thnk he posted the emails. I wish he would have them published in the newspaper!! jmo..

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 04:50 PM
I thnk he posted the emails. I wish he would have them published in the newspaper!! jmo..

yep he did post them also the emails back and forth to Mark Nejame.

crymeariver2006
10-04-2008, 04:50 PM
George said around 22-24 of June. He wasn't sure what day exactly.

I wonder if any of their vehicles have GPS LE could check.

George said.

See, that's where I start having trouble believing......

It could have very well happened earlier than 6/15 seeing as how once the air test results came out, Cindy was already saying that Casey wasn't the only one driving Casey's car (along with other nonsense such as the Body Snatchers that play musical cars with dead bodies at tow yards).

Maybe I'll feel different if there are actual EZ pass records, but would they be able to tell which Anthony vehicle was using the pass?

tiny paw-prints
10-04-2008, 04:51 PM
Did it actually happen between 6/15 and 7/15?

I haven't seen any proof that the incident actually happened. I'm assuming that if it did happen, it occurred sometime around 6/24.

trich
10-04-2008, 04:52 PM
I just keep getting more questions the more I read and go back and listen. I just can't make myself watch Cindy's again yet and I need to.
IMO she lies more than anyone of them. Why?


Personally I think knowing Casey's guilt is killing Cindy and she is trying to do everything she can to blame everyone but Casey....she is making up thiings as she goes along all in trying to make people believe her daughter could not kill her daughter.....well it is making everything worse and it is time to face reality.

although that is my opinion ...I wonder if maybe Cindy has lied all her life too and made up stories to fit what she feels should be.
Again though I think the only good thing she did since this mess happened was to call 911 ....I suspect Casey would have been in another state or another country by now had the tow yard not informed the Anthonys about having the car.

crymeariver2006
10-04-2008, 04:53 PM
I just keep getting more questions the more I read and go back and listen. I just can't make myself watch Cindy's again yet and I need to.
IMO she lies more than anyone of them. Why?

Because pearls don't make you June Cleaver?

:shrug:

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 04:53 PM
I thnk he posted the emails. I wish he would have them published in the newspaper!! jmo..



You would think by now Cindy would have figure out that talking on camera, using a cell phone and writing e-mails aren't such a good idea.
Keep it up Cindy and George will be looking for someone to bail you out.:eek:

ellegna
10-04-2008, 04:54 PM
I thnk he posted the emails. I wish he would have them published in the newspaper!! jmo..

Maybe NG would be interested receiving his link :tongue:

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 04:54 PM
I wonder why Casey was teaching Caylee Spanish, on the blog it said she could count to 45 in Spanish.

bchand
10-04-2008, 04:55 PM
Don't feel bad, I just knew it was going to happen yesterday.

Summer4mePlz did too. lol

crymeariver2006
10-04-2008, 04:55 PM
I haven't seen any proof that the incident actually happened. I'm assuming that if it did happen, it occurred sometime around 6/24.


I hear ya!

But 6/24 is when Casey returned the gas cans - in her own car, right?

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 04:55 PM
Personally I think knowing Casey's guilt is killing Cindy and she is trying to do everything she can to blame everyone but Casey....she is making up thiings as she goes along all in trying to make people believe her daughter could not kill her daughter.....well it is making everything worse and it is time to face reality.

although that is my opinion ...I wonder if maybe Cindy has lied all her life too and made up stories to fit what she feels should be.
Again though I think the only good thing she did since this mess happened was to call 911 ....I suspect Casey would have been in another state or another country by now had the tow yard not informed the Anthonys about having the car.


I'm thinking Cindy is thinking the 911 calls were the worst mistakes of her life.

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 04:56 PM
I'm thinking Cindy is thinking the 911 calls were the worst mistakes of her life.

Oh I agree, I don't think any of them thought it would come to this.

crymeariver2006
10-04-2008, 04:57 PM
I wonder why Casey was teaching Caylee Spanish, on the blog it said she could count to 45 in Spanish.

I think she watched a lot of tv.

JMO though. I can't see where Casey ever took the time to teach her anything.

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 04:57 PM
Is Cindy seriously persuing charges against Tim and TES? OMG, she's is a total fruitcake proving no good deed goes unpunished. First she treats him like trash and refuses to cooperate and now this. JMO.:no:

All the more reason I want it to be "him" that finds Caylee.

Albini
10-04-2008, 04:58 PM
I hardly think that my belief that using a "childish" name for Casey is unnecessary, is defending her, Joan. Not in the least. I think she killed Caylee. Maybe you forgot that?

I think calling her PPOF tells more about the people who use that name for Casey, than it does about Casey herself. We know Casey lies....we all do, no matter how we differ in our opinions. But maybe you can tell ME what the purpose is in calling her by a "funny/clever" name? I know we are big on psychology here on this board.....so what does it tell us about the posters who use that term? It surely must mean something. ;)

It means we are all bloody sick of this wretched women and frankly are taking out our frustrations about the inaction and lies on her part in a harmless way instead of protesting..which you also were deeply offended about.

Psyche wise, it means nadda. Studied it for years. No where does it say that non-violently outletting our frutrations deems we have a mental illness or personality disorder.

but thanks for asking.

day2day
10-04-2008, 04:58 PM
You would think by now Cindy would have figure out that talking on camera, using a cell phone and writing e-mails are such a good idea.
Keep it up Cindy and George will be looking for someone to bail you out.:eek:

Oh i agree...they just keep a talkin..:shrug:

Albini
10-04-2008, 04:59 PM
I think she watched a lot of tv.

JMO though. I can't see where Casey ever took the time to teach her anything.

Dora, Deigo and Sesame street also teach spanish. Thats prolly where she got it from.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 04:59 PM
Oh I agree, I don't think any of them thought it would come to this.


I would really like to know what she did think would happen. Surely she didn't believe once they got to the house she could just say forget it, I changed my mind. They are really amazing people in that family.
One for the books.

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 05:01 PM
I'm thinking Cindy is thinking Casey was the worst mistake of her life, IMO.

Well we know that Casey thought Caylee was.

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 05:01 PM
It means we are all bloody sick of this wretched women and frankly are taking out our frustrations about the inaction and lies on her part in a harmless way instead of protesting..which you also were deeply offended about.

Psyche wise, it means nadda. Studied it for years. No where does it say that non-violently outletting our frutrations deems we have a mental illness or personality disorder.

but thanks for asking.

Oh I never implied it means a mental illness or personality disorder, LOL!!!!!!....but still, it does say something about those who stoop to call names, I'd say? Hope you didn't misinterpret my post incorrectly. (I studied psych for years too BTW.)

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:02 PM
I'm thinking Cindy is thinking Casey was the worst mistake of her life, IMO.



I'm sure she's been telling Casey that for a long time. IIRC she referred to Caylee as being a Casey mistake also.

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 05:04 PM
I'm sure she's been telling Casey that for a long time. IIRC she referred to Caylee as being a Casey mistake also.

Cindy may not have killed Caylee but she is to blame for not teaching Casey how to be a nurturing mother, probably because she never was one herself. IMO.

?noanswer
10-04-2008, 05:05 PM
RE: emails supposedly from Cindy accussing TM of theft on that other site. Did that poster have a link for them or did CA send that information to him personally? How long has that site been online?

JMO

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:05 PM
Cindy may not have killed Caylee but she is to blame for not teaching Casey how to be a nurturing mother, probably because she never was one herself. IMO.



I think you summed it up rather nicely. But sadly I don't imagine Cindy looks at it that way.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:07 PM
RE: emails supposedly from Cindy accussing TM of theft on that other site. Did that poster have a link for them or did CA send that information to him personally? How long has that site been online?

JMO


He says he was talking to Cindy thru e-mails. He put a screen shot of the actual e-mail on there.:shrug:

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 05:08 PM
RE: emails supposedly from Cindy accussing TM of theft on that other site. Did that poster have a link for them or did CA send that information to him personally? How long has that site been online?

JMO

She sent them to him personally and he had a link to them. He posted them today.

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 05:08 PM
When listening to George again this morning he said the day he saw Casey driving Cindy's car was around the 22-24. In Cindy's statement she says she never went to the beach with Caylee which at the time I found odd cause they live in Florida. Funny how a lot of what Cindy says just doesn't jive with what other family members say.:shrug:

I'm not sure what to think about the beach thing.....does seem to be a discrepancy.....though I don't see why Cindy would lie. I also don't think it would be TOO weird if she hadn't ever taken Caylee to the beach. I live in FL, and remember, they don't live on either coast, they are in Orlando which is mid-state. It is not like where I live and I can go two miles to the beach.

day2day
10-04-2008, 05:09 PM
RE: emails supposedly from Cindy accussing TM of theft on that other site. Did that poster have a link for them or did CA send that information to him personally? How long has that site been online?

JMO

IIRC he donated to the trust fund and was concerned about how the trust money was being used. She contacted him. He posted the emails on his website. The website is not a Caylee site..jmo!!

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 05:10 PM
I'm not sure what to think about the beach thing.....does seem to be a discrepancy.....though I don't see why Cindy would lie. I also don't think it would be TOO weird if she hadn't ever taken Caylee to the beach. I live in FL, and remember, they don't live on either coast, they are in Orlando which is mid-state. It is not like where I live and I can go two miles to the beach.
We used to live a few blocks from the beach, I very seldom took my youngest daughter. After hurricane Hugo the ocean and the oceans floor really changed.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:11 PM
I'm not sure what to think about the beach thing.....does seem to be a discrepancy.....though I don't see why Cindy would lie. I also don't think it would be TOO weird if she hadn't ever taken Caylee to the beach. I live in FL, and remember, they don't live on either coast, they are in Orlando which is mid-state. It is not like where I live and I can go two miles to the beach.

Since she seems to lie about just about everything why wouldn't she lie about this. None of her lies make sense but she still lies.

Roux
10-04-2008, 05:13 PM
I would really like to know what she did think would happen. Surely she didn't believe once they got to the house she could just say forget it, I changed my mind. They are really amazing people in that family.
One for the books.

One of so many baffling things about this situation is Casey's remark during the 911 call when Cindy handed the phone to her and she said "why do they want to talk to me?" What was her mindset that she would make such a comment? I guess that she thought she could continue her charade indefinitely?

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:13 PM
IMO, Caylee was old enough to pick up on tension and/or fights. I can't imagine how frightening it must have been for her to witness that. These people don't strike me as the types who would shelter a small child from this bad behaviour. JMO.


You know, Caylee I'm sure loved all of them. The fights must have really upset her. They all make me so mad just thinking about it.:flamemad:

Katt2
10-04-2008, 05:14 PM
IIRC he donated to the trust fund and was concerned about how the trust money was being used. She contacted him. He posted the emails on his website. The website is not a Caylee site..jmo!!

I am a little suspicious of this Monoxide poster. He was banned from Websleuths and he has just two forums there-one for martial arts and one for Caylee. This forum just started up in September and has just 20 members.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:15 PM
One of so many baffling things about this situation is Casey's remark during the 911 call when Cindy handed the phone to her and she said "why do they want to talk to me?" What was her mindset that she would make such a comment? I guess that she thought she could continue her charade indefinitely?


That's made me wonder to. I think maybe she knew her mother knew she didn't know anything so why would they want to talk to her.

5boxersmom
10-04-2008, 05:16 PM
Casey wanted to give up Caylee for adoption.

George says he wasnt handling be a grandfather very well. Did he mean after Caylee was born? They seperated after right?

So only Cindy wanted Caylee?

This is disturbing to me. I know it is a shock to become a grandparent sometimes but usually when you see that baby all is forgotten.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 05:18 PM
Casey wanted to give up Caylee for adoption.

George says he wasnt handling be a grandfather very well. Did he mean after Caylee was born? They seperated after right?

So only Cindy wanted Caylee?

This is disturbing to me. I know it is a shock to become a grandparent sometimes but usually when you see that baby all is forgotten.

jmo

Caylee:rose:
If George couldn't handle being a grandfather how the heck did he handle being a father?

tiny paw-prints
10-04-2008, 05:20 PM
ITA and George and Casey are scared of her. More scared of her than they are of LE.

Cindy scares me more than Casey scares me!

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:20 PM
Casey wanted to give up Caylee for adoption.

George says he wasnt handling be a grandfather very well. Did he mean after Caylee was born? They seperated after right?

So only Cindy wanted Caylee?

This is disturbing to me. I know it is a shock to become a grandparent sometimes but usually when you see that baby all is forgotten.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

Maybe he meant he wasn't doing any better with Caylee than he did with Casey. I think everyone in that family needs protecting from Cindy.

Lilly12
10-04-2008, 05:21 PM
Hi all!
I have a thought, duh. ....... TonE is going to a School for the Arts, correct?........ If he wants to be an actor, etc......... perhaps the glamor of this profession is/was so appealing to Casey, she would try hard to keep a relationship going.......and as TonE did not want a child around, (this is not reflection on TonE), Caylee would be a problem.......so ...... It is just a thought, but it could be a reason why the need to get rid of Caylee with this boyfriend and not the other boyfriends. My oponion only.

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 05:22 PM
Casey wanted to give up Caylee for adoption.

George says he wasnt handling be a grandfather very well. Did he mean after Caylee was born? They seperated after right?

So only Cindy wanted Caylee?

This is disturbing to me. I know it is a shock to become a grandparent sometimes but usually when you see that baby all is forgotten.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

I honestly think all ended up being forgotten.....the photos I've seen of George and Caylee were beautiful....

day2day
10-04-2008, 05:23 PM
I am a little suspicious of this Monoxide poster. He was banned from Websleuths and he has just two forums there-one for martial arts and one for Caylee. This forum just started up in September and has just 20 members.

I am pretty sure he is the one that got the ball rolling on the nonamed site. That being said-IF he is lying-...he will be in some big trouble!! I emailed Mr. Miller and sent him the link. I for one wouldn't advise anyone to lie about anything-but to lie about the Anthony's right now would be --really stupid!!

edited-jmo

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 05:23 PM
IIRC from George's interview he was upset about the circumstances surrounding becoming a GP, i.e, unmarried, teenage daughter, father unknown, that sort of stuff. JMO.


And that's quite understandable, IMO.

barskin&co.
10-04-2008, 05:23 PM
One of so many baffling things about this situation is Casey's remark during the 911 call when Cindy handed the phone to her and she said "why do they want to talk to me?" What was her mindset that she would make such a comment? I guess that she thought she could continue her charade indefinitely?

I think it's baffling, because it is so hard to imagine yourself inside the mindset of this psychopath. Remember after failing to report Caylee's disappearance and lying to the police about everything, she complained that she was "arrested on an <expletive> whim."

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:24 PM
If George couldn't handle being a grandfather how the heck did he handle being a father?


Look at this mess, he didn't. And the man was a detective. Left a car with the smell of decomp and went to work cause his wife told him too.
Imagine how he feels knowing we know what we know about him and the way lets Cindy rule him. He needs to finally stand up and be a man and tell all he knows. My opinion of him would go way up then.

SavannahStar
10-04-2008, 05:24 PM
I am a little suspicious of this Monoxide poster. He was banned from Websleuths and he has just two forums there-one for martial arts and one for Caylee. This forum just started up in September and has just 20 members.

I'm very suspicious as well.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:25 PM
Hi all!
I have a thought, duh. ....... TonE is going to a School for the Arts, correct?........ If he wants to be an actor, etc......... perhaps the glamor of this profession is/was so appealing to Casey, she would try hard to keep a relationship going.......and as TonE did not want a child around, Caylee would be a problem.......so she got rid of the problem....... It is just a thought, but it could be a reason why the need to get rid of Caylee with this boyfriend and not the others. My opionion only.

I think if that was true she would have just dumped Caylee on her parents and gone on her merry way.

nc1948
10-04-2008, 05:25 PM
They surely have told so many lies. I have found myself thinking over and over again about LE and just how they have had to trace every lie that has come out of that whole entire family. I could not have been easy on them. I just cannot imagine being them and being as professional as they have been.

Cindy and Goerge should have had help for this girl a long long time ago. Easier to just let it be, than to except that perhaps they were not in control of Casey as they had thought and get help, huh?

Casey did not report her daughter missing. Cindy did after 30/31 days. Then cindy and Casey have spent the next 100 days trying to send LE in any direction except one that will help find Caylee. Le has had an uphill battle with this case. I think in normal cases with a child missing the family, friends, and neighbors have helped with constructive information. Yes in normal situations things may be confused as people hear and see and remember things differently, but to intentionally try to mislead the people looking for your misplaced child/grandchild is beyond anything I can understand.

I do not hate the Anthonys, I just hate what they have done and are still doing.

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 05:26 PM
I'm very suspicious as well.

I think the emails are legit, but I really don't like what he has to say about Tricia, but it is his site after all.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:28 PM
Casey did not report her daughter missing. Cindy did after 30/31 days. Then cindy and Casey have spent the next 100 days trying to send LE in any direction except one that will help find Caylee. Le has had an uphill battle with this case. I think in normal cases with a child missing the family, friends, and neighbors have helped with constructive information. Yes in normal situations things may be confused as people hear and see and remember things differently, but to intentionally try to mislead the people looking for your misplaced child/grandchild is beyond anything I can understand.

I do not hate the Anthonys, I just hate what they have done and are still doing.


ITA. I don't see why people can't see it's their actions not them we don't like.

frances1
10-04-2008, 05:28 PM
That's made me wonder to. I think maybe she knew her mother knew she didn't know anything so why would they want to talk to her.


I don't understand what you mean by "her mother knew she didn't know anything".

Roux
10-04-2008, 05:28 PM
It seems that lying for the sake of lying is a family trait. Sadly, it won't help find Caylee or bring her home for a decent burial. That's what bothers me most in this case. Everyone knows Casey knows where Caylee is, she knows she left her little body out in the elements to rot and she doesn't even think Caylee's worth bringing back. I hope she realizes that she may very well spend the rest of her days in prison. Not telling isn't go to make that any easier on her. JMHO.

That's really the bottom line -- Casey knows and Casey won't tell. She will let her child's body decompose with no proper burial, and contribute untold pain to her parents by lying and giving them false hope. To me it's about truth and justice and owning up to what you have done, if you love your child and your parents. She will never do that IMO.

babblefishie
10-04-2008, 05:29 PM
Well, I guess if she's in the house under the computer, maybe.
She is revolting!!!

Caylee, just for you baby

It's too bad Caylee's not tucked in a wallet or money jar... the Anthony's would find her PDQ .....
For TIM :rose:
For CAYLEE :rose:
FOR CINDY :punch:

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 05:30 PM
That's really the bottom line -- Casey knows and Casey won't tell. She will let her child's body decompose with no proper burial, and contribute untold pain to her parents by lying and giving them false hope. To me it's about truth and justice and owning up to what you have done, if you love your child and your parents. She will never do that IMO.
You don't kill children you love IMO

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:30 PM
I don't understand what you mean by "her mother knew she didn't know anything".


I don't know how to make it any clearer.:shrug:

day2day
10-04-2008, 05:31 PM
Casey did not report her daughter missing. Cindy did after 30/31 days. Then cindy and Casey have spent the next 100 days trying to send LE in any direction except one that will help find Caylee. Le has had an uphill battle with this case. I think in normal cases with a child missing the family, friends, and neighbors have helped with constructive information. Yes in normal situations things may be confused as people hear and see and remember things differently, but to intentionally try to mislead the people looking for your misplaced child/grandchild is beyond anything I can understand.

I do not hate the Anthonys, I just hate what they have done and are still doing.

Great post nc!! And I agree- i don't hate "them"-i do hate their ways. I hate the way they have misled LE and I really HATE the way Cindy has blamed everyone but Casey for Caylee's vanishing.

jmo

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:33 PM
She scared me from the first interview I saw her on. She confirmed my feelings she was "not sane" when she did the Greta interview at her home. When she pointed out to Greta that "they were not done landscaping" a certain area of the back yard , I went WTF lady, this is about your granddaughter NOT YOU, or YOUR TALENTS. She is frightening, she unlike Beth Holloway has no genuine concern for her loved one and it shows for all of us to see.
She made Caylee disposable because Caylee can no longer reveal their UGLY FAMILY SECRETS. I hope that she will be arrested for lying to the FBI and LE. I think that will be the only thing that might SCARE her.


I'm not sure anything can scare Cindy.

day2day
10-04-2008, 05:33 PM
ITA. I don't see why people can't see it's their actions not them we don't like.

:shrug: i don't have a clue.

Roux
10-04-2008, 05:36 PM
I think if that was true she would have just dumped Caylee on her parents and gone on her merry way.

I don't understand why she didn't just do that. She had her cute little job taking photos at the theme park and her social life. I do not believe that she ever bonded with Caylee, and posted last weekend that the pictures of Casey with Caylee don't look the same as those with George & Cindy. Casey beams with that same big smile & white teeth as she does in all the party/club pix. I don't feel or see any maternal love there, but the love of the GPs is very obvious.

Katt2
10-04-2008, 05:36 PM
I think the emails are legit, but I really don't like what he has to say about Tricia, but it is his site after all.

All he does is trash the Anthony's on his site but he sends a donation? And he suggests to Lee to use Paypal..His emails are full of compassion and prayer and then he trashes them all using foul language. I don't know what game he is playing but I am sure there is one.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:37 PM
She's quite the bully, IMO. And she is never, ever wrong.:no:


I think George is the only one who may tell us what happened. Casey and Lee were raised from birth by her and I don't believe they are able to tell. George has got to finally do the right thing and tell all he knows for Cayee , Casey and Lee. It will be the best thing for all of them. It's time to stop worrying about family secrets and do the right thing.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:39 PM
I don't understand why she didn't just do that. She had her cute little job taking photos at the theme park and her social life. I do not believe that she ever bonded with Caylee, and posted last weekend that the pictures of Casey with Caylee don't look the same as those with George & Cindy. Casey beams with that same big smile & white teeth as she does in all the party/club pix. I don't feel or see any maternal love there, but the love of the GPs is very obvious.


I see the same in all the pictures. Caylee would sleep with Casey at night. That doesn't sound like not bonding to me. Just some more of Cindy's bs.

tiny paw-prints
10-04-2008, 05:40 PM
I think if that was true she would have just dumped Caylee on her parents and gone on her merry way.

Casey was virtually doing that anyway! If she really didn't want any responsibilities of Caylee, don't you think she'd probably get more satisfaction of being a 'spiteful biotch' and be gone on her merry way without Caylee?

impartial
10-04-2008, 05:40 PM
I'm very suspicious as well.

Hi SS :seeya:



Who are we suspicious of and why? What has he/she posted that is suspicious.

TIA :)

frances1
10-04-2008, 05:40 PM
I don't know how to make it any clearer.:shrug:

So you're saying Casey didn't know anything? Sorry if I'm being dense.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:42 PM
So you're saying Casey didn't know anything? Sorry if I'm being dense.



No proof Casey did it just speculation. One of them did it though. Oh and yes Casey did do something. She didn't protect her daughter.

5boxersmom
10-04-2008, 05:43 PM
Not true according to Jesse.

Didn't Jesse say Casey said it was not an option? So that could be because Cindy said no. Just like Casey's friend told LE.

jmo

day2day
10-04-2008, 05:43 PM
She's quite the bully, IMO. And she is never, ever wrong.:no:

I will never forget her asking LE-am i intimidating you?! hammer

trich
10-04-2008, 05:45 PM
Casey wanted to give up Caylee for adoption.

George says he wasnt handling be a grandfather very well. Did he mean after Caylee was born? They seperated after right?

So only Cindy wanted Caylee?

This is disturbing to me. I know it is a shock to become a grandparent sometimes but usually when you see that baby all is forgotten.

jmo

Caylee:rose:

Sorry but according to Jessie he had mentioned giving child up for adoption but Casey said that was not gonna happen.
Also I don't see being a grandparent a shock....I am one 5 times over and I never ever considered it a shock....
But then my kids did things the "right way"...they got married first.
Not sure what George meant about not handling being a GP well...
Shoot there is nothing better then grandkids.

crymeariver2006
10-04-2008, 05:45 PM
She's a kook!

What's to figure? :shrug:

:seeya:

*snickers*

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:46 PM
I will never forget her asking LE-am i intimidating you?! hammer



Me either. Just shows she uses intimidation all the time and it probably does work. But it sure didn't work on LE. Cindy's met her match.

Albini
10-04-2008, 05:48 PM
Casey has a name, but if you enjoy 3rd grade name-calling then go for it.

It speaks more of the poster using such a childish term than it does anything else.

And you are trained in pschye in order to make such a statement?

If so then please tell us what calling a suspect child murderer and KNOWN liar out on her lies means to our general adjustment to life?

IF you are not professionally trained, then keep your judgement on me to yourself.

I have heard you talk so many times about The Anthonys rights. And yet here you are judging us in the manner which you accuse and berate us of judging them.

nc1948
10-04-2008, 05:48 PM
Didn't we read that Caylee like Dora the Explorer? She was probably learning Spanish from that, not Casey! IMO

I don't think Casey taught Caylee anything. I think she used the tv as a babysitter all the time. Casey was too busy with her own life. Just from her Text log I cannot see time for Caylee.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:48 PM
Sorry but according to Jessie he had mentioned giving child up for adoption but Casey said that was not gonna happen.
Also I don't see being a grandparent a shock....I am one 5 times over and I never ever considered it a shock....
But then my kids did things the "right way"...they got married first.
Not sure what George meant about not handling being a GP well...
Shoot there is nothing better then grandkids.


ITA except.... wait til you get great grands. It's the best thing on earth.

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:49 PM
I'm not sure Casey would want Caylee sleeping with her every night. It would limit her cell phone time, IMO.


Well that's where she slept according to George and Cindy.

?noanswer
10-04-2008, 05:49 PM
I think the emails are legit, but I really don't like what he has to say about Tricia, but it is his site after all.

I don't know if they are legit - I could see Cindy sending them, just another way for her to talk.

I notice they were sent/received? with squirrel email. ( Squirrel email http://caerdydd.ac.uk/insrv/it/comms/squirrelmail/index.html ) is available for students of Cardiff University, "one of Britain’s major teaching and research universities. Located in the centre of the capital city of Wales, it has an international reputation for the quality of its work which attracts staff and students from around the world."

Is anyone else familiar with squirrel e-mail?

This probably O/T, but I found it interesting.

JMO

crymeariver2006
10-04-2008, 05:50 PM
I'm not sure Casey would want Caylee sleeping with her every night. It would limit her cell phone time, IMO.

I'm not so sure she slept with Casey every night.

But I wouldn't let my dogs sleep in Caylee's bed either, let alone announce it on national tv.

(And my eyes were blurring over last night and I thought your nic was I luv my porn :D. I thought, well you go girl!)

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 05:51 PM
I don't know if they are legit - I could see Cindy sending them, just another way for her to talk.

I notice they were sent/received? with squirrel email. ( Squirrel email http://caerdydd.ac.uk/insrv/it/comms/squirrelmail/index.html ) is available for students of Cardiff University, "one of Britain’s major teaching and research universities. Located in the centre of the capital city of Wales, it has an international reputation for the quality of its work which attracts staff and students from around the world."

Is anyone else familiar with squirrel e-mail?

This probably O/T, but I found it interesting.

JMO

I have never even heard of it before.

crymeariver2006
10-04-2008, 05:52 PM
I don't know if they are legit - I could see Cindy sending them, just another way for her to talk.

I notice they were sent/received? with squirrel email. ( Squirrel email http://caerdydd.ac.uk/insrv/it/comms/squirrelmail/index.html ) is available for students of Cardiff University, "one of Britain’s major teaching and research universities. Located in the centre of the capital city of Wales, it has an international reputation for the quality of its work which attracts staff and students from around the world."

Is anyone else familiar with squirrel e-mail?

This probably O/T, but I found it interesting.

JMO

Nothing with the word "squirrel" in it comes as a shock to any of us any more.

:biggrin:

Maybe Casey's taking online classes for her GED?

WillowInFlight
10-04-2008, 05:52 PM
Nothing with the word "squirrel" in it comes as a shock to any of us any more.

:biggrin:

:lol:.............

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:52 PM
I'm not so sure she slept with Casey every night.

But I wouldn't let my dogs sleep in Caylee's bed either, let alone announce it on national tv.

(And my eyes were blurring over last night and I thought your nic was I luv my porn :D. I thought, well you go girl!)


It's the only thing Cindy and George haven't changed saying since this started.

day2day
10-04-2008, 05:53 PM
I don't know if they are legit - I could see Cindy sending them, just another way for her to talk.

I notice they were sent/received? with squirrel email. ( Squirrel email http://caerdydd.ac.uk/insrv/it/comms/squirrelmail/index.html ) is available for students of Cardiff University, "one of Britain’s major teaching and research universities. Located in the centre of the capital city of Wales, it has an international reputation for the quality of its work which attracts staff and students from around the world."

Is anyone else familiar with squirrel e-mail?

This probably O/T, but I found it interesting.

JMO



Considering the crawling dead squirrels-i find him using squirrel mail-pretty stinkin funny !! LOL!!

I have never heard of it before. But like i said he would be pretty stupid to make up all these emails and post them-if they weren't true. He would be sued in a heartbeat.

jmo

day2day
10-04-2008, 05:54 PM
Nothing with the word "squirrel" in it comes as a shock to any of us any more.

:biggrin:

Maybe Casey's taking online classes for her GED?

get outta my head!! LOL!!

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:54 PM
Nothing with the word "squirrel" in it comes as a shock to any of us any more.

:biggrin:


I don't think I'll every be able to hear that word again without thinking of 2 dead squirrels climbing or is that one 2-headed squirrel.:lol:

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:55 PM
Considering the crawling dead squirrels-i find him using squirrel mail-pretty stinkin funny !! LOL!!

I have never heard of it before. But like i said he would be pretty stupid to make up all these emails and post them-if they weren't true. He would be sued in a heartbeat.

jmo

He sure wouldn't be too bright it he made them us as much as the Anthony's need money.

crymeariver2006
10-04-2008, 05:57 PM
Making up a 3rd grade name of "PrincessPantsOnFire" is what you people call "calling her out on her lies" ?!?!? :lol:

Second thought, that is probably about the extent of what some here are capable of and nothing more.


Oh no, don't misunderestimate the names we could call Casey. We're just being nice.

day2day
10-04-2008, 05:58 PM
He sure wouldn't be too bright it he made them us as much as the Anthony's need money.

And imo he knows this. Thats why i would bet she wrote the emails! jmo

aubrey04
10-04-2008, 05:58 PM
It absolutely astonishes me that Cindy would treat Tim Miller the way she's been treating him... then again, she treats the media, the cops and the public in the exact same manner.

I just think if I had a family member missing, most likely dead, how I would use ANY and ALL airtime I could get to my loved ones face on the TV, in the newspaper, on the internet... and I would beg and plead with TES to come and help... and the cops, too.

The behavior of this family is VERY telling, imo. Didn't Tim Miller say that he had NEVER in all his years with TES ..dealt with a family intent on him NOT helping?

Their behavior speaks VOLUMES.

crymeariver2006
10-04-2008, 05:59 PM
And imo he knows this. Thats why i would bet she wrote the emails! jmo

I would too!

;)

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 05:59 PM
And imo he knows this. Thats why i would bet she wrote the emails! jmo


ITA. They sound like Cindy.

Cury-us Coyote
10-04-2008, 05:59 PM
Hi SS :seeya:



Who are we suspicious of and why? What has he/she posted that is suspicious.

TIA :)

I'm lost and looking for a compass too. Any hoping it isn't who we think it is!

While we wait....... Can the state delay until the first witness is sworn to drop the neglect charges? TIA

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 06:01 PM
I'm lost and looking for a compass too. Any hoping it isn't who we think it is!

While we wait....... Can the state delay until the first witness is sworn to drop the neglect charges? TIA


They can drop them in the middle of the trial if they want to.

day2day
10-04-2008, 06:04 PM
It absolutely astonishes me that Cindy would treat Tim Miller the way she's been treating him... then again, she treats the media, the cops and the public in the exact same manner.

I just think if I had a family member missing, most likely dead, how I would use ANY and ALL airtime I could get to my loved ones face on the TV, in the newspaper, on the internet... and I would beg and plead with TES to come and help... and the cops, too.

The behavior of this family is VERY telling, imo. Didn't Tim Miller say that he had NEVER in all his years with TES ..dealt with a family intent on him NOT helping?

Their behavior speaks VOLUMES.

Not only the first family that didn't help..but probly the first family to get on tv and beg people NOT help him. She also IIRC gave him a tip on day one of his search of a "Caylee sighting" in Texas and wanted him to stop and search there. IMO it was her way of tellin him to just go home..:(

always jmo

GrannyB
10-04-2008, 06:05 PM
ITA. It's the most bizarre behaviour I've ever seen from family members of a missing child. From Cindy's hammer, to George's outbursts and physical confrontations with protestors, to Lee's inappropriate laughter when discussing his deal niece's decomp in his sisters trunk and, worse of all, the grieving mom, Casey, partying, shacking up with a guy she barely knows, WTH is up with these people and where are their other family members and friends who should be providing support? JMO.



Look how they treat their own grandaughter. Tim is just someone who won't do it their way. He means nothing to them. I pray he will find Caylee, you can bet he wants to and cares more about her than her family does.

impartial
10-04-2008, 06:06 PM
I'm lost and looking for a compass too. Any hoping it isn't who we think it is!

While we wait....... Can the state delay until the first witness is sworn to drop the neglect charges? TIA


I have seen cases argue that jeopardy attaches when the jury is sworn ... but for sure when the first witness is sworn.

IMO

tiny paw-prints
10-04-2008, 06:09 PM
I'm not sure Casey would want Caylee sleeping with her every night. It would limit her cell phone time, IMO.

Instead, maybe Cindy meant to say that she and Caylee slept together??