Friday oct.3rd verdict watch

[callmetree]

good morning all. hope it's ok to start a new thread on the verdict watch. just wish it would get over with soon!!:seeya:

[callmetree]

:flamemad: just watched his not guilty verdict from his double murder trial. every time i see that smile on his face i want to:punch: him. just hope this trial goes in the opposite direction.

[bearwds]

good morning all. hope it's ok to start a new thread on the verdict watch. just wish it would get over with soon!!:seeya:
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G'morning CMT....

Catching up on IS with Lisa and information I missed yesterday.

My only contact with the trial yesterday was this Board. Good posting folks. Helped me keep up.

My guess for verdict is Monday afternoon...unless they choose to work Saturday. I think that may be an option.


bearwds

[callmetree]

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G'morning CMT....

Catching up on IS with Lisa and information I missed yesterday.

My only contact with the trial yesterday was this Board. Good posting folks. Helped me keep up.

My guess for verdict is Monday afternoon...unless they choose to work Saturday. I think that may be an option.


bearwds

wouldn't it be great if it were over this afternoon? all i've been able to do all week is catch up here. but :biggrin: i don't have to work today. poor house won't get a badly needed cleaning either.:eek:

[Fallen Angel]

Today's the day,...i can feel it in my gut.

i'm saying GUILTY but not on EVERYTHING

i think he'll server any where from 5-15 years.

[RGG]

Today's the day,...i can feel it in my gut.
i'm saying GUILTY but not on EVERYTHING
i think he'll server any where from 5-15 years.

Wishing I were as confident about a verdict as you are. :confused:
My house keeps yelling at me for a clean-up in aisle 3.
The jury will knock several of those counts off and I was thinking both CJ and AJ would get about 3-5 yrs each.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Good Morning everyone..didnt get to post much yesterday, but did catch most of the closing arguements. I was struck with the focus by the defense attny's ..Yale making a case for "Defendent Simpson's' mindset etc.." Things were not as they appeared..etc..I do believe if those tapes had not contradicted his client's mindset, he could have made some points..It seems jurors need clear proof before they will convict a "celebrity"....They need a higher threshold..proof beyond any doubt to vote guilty..at least that the way I see it.

I thought the Pros. did a wonderful close and tied all the aspects of each count into the evidence.

LMS:seeya:

[RGG]

I just watched the KTLA replay when Alexander told Galanter to get away from him in the witness box. Hopefully, the jury will remember that and see how intimidating Yale was; just like Yale's client! :mad:

[bearwds]

Lisa commented this morning about the SNAFU Yale faced with his media presentation.

She was talking to JC and she reported that she felt some of the jurors were "bonding" with Yale because of the screw-up. ....:eek:


bearwds

[callmetree]

Lisa commented this morning about the SNAFU Yale faced with his media presentation.

She was talking to JC and she reported that she felt some of the jurors were "bonding" with Yale because of the screw-up. ....:eek:


bearwds

:shrug: how could anyone bond with this man? just asking because of the person that is his client.barf

[RGG]

Lisa commented this morning about the SNAFU Yale faced with his media presentation.

She was talking to JC and she reported that she felt some of the jurors were "bonding" with Yale because of the screw-up. ....:eek:
bearwds

What SNAFU? I truly must have missed something while I darted back and forth for the VP debate and the video I was making on my computer, I deleted this morning - dummy me!<--hammer

[bearwds]

:shrug: how could anyone bond with this man? just asking because of the person that is his client.barf
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You're going to have to clean that mess up.

Got me. I guess she was trying to say that jury felt sorry for YG because his toys didn't work.


bearwds

[callmetree]

oh boy.... now we get to listen to jami:rolleyes: may have to clean a bit afterall:D

[callmetree]

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You're going to have to clean that mess up.

Got me. I guess she was trying to say that jury felt sorry for YG because his toys didn't work.


bearwds

LOL i would gladly clean up more if we get the verdict I'M hoping for.:beer:

[callmetree]

Excellent idea to start a new thread for the verdict watch. Keeps things nicely organized. Thank you, Tree -- you and others have been so good at starting a new daily thread.

thanks guernica! i'm always kinda hesitate of what i'm doing here. as u can see i haven't been posting very long . simply guessing at how things work. i've had alot of support and advice from the nice people here though.;)

[Fallen Angel]

what time are they getting started today and does anyone know if marta and loni be on while they are deliberating?

[callmetree]

ooooh judge glass is trying not to be a character in the exorcist movie.:lol:

[AnnInOhio]

Yale Gallanter in closing said "I will be the first to tell you that doing this on your own, going into a room trying to recover your own stolen property, is not bright."

Hey Yale...you're an attorney. Next time anybody asks you for legal advice you should tell them it is not only not bright, it's illegal!

[tashi]

what time are they getting started today and does anyone know if marta and loni be on while they are deliberating?


Loni and Marta are going to be live at 10:00am PST to go over yesterday's closing arguments and then they're going to replay Owen's closing.

I also heard that they will be there with updates during jury deliberation.

[callmetree]

Fallen
OJ and attorneys are to be in the court room at 830, and I heard the commentators say that they would be on ktla.

i'm not good at multi-tasking . so hard to keep up with both threads. thank goodness for my daughter. she stays on the caylee thread and i stay here. we swap info.:read:

[Tubesworld]

Well, Mr. Galanter should have done a 'dry run' of his presentation to ensure the equipment was working properly.

Or, he should have used Bryson's presentation 'equipment.'

That was funny "equipment". Still laffin!

[callmetree]

does jami really think this cousin is going to say anything about the bad boy she has in her family?:no:

[Tubesworld]

does jami really think this cousin is going to say anything about the bad boy she has in her family?:no:

That was Simpson's cousin, the heavyset woman with Jami?

[Tubesworld]

Ooooops, just answered my own ?. She's back on.

[callmetree]

That's good - we're not always accused of being "nice". You'll see when the "trolls" come out. Start locating your ignore button now and don't get caught up in silly controversies.

i've already run across a few. one that post here... no names please. he can really get me going. i'm just a hoping him and his buddies don't get to party after this verdict. i have several places i could suggest he go or do though!! :D:D

[Tubesworld]

Daggone! I wish I was smarter. She was Stewart's cousin.

[bearwds]

oh boy.... now we get to listen to jami:rolleyes: may have to clean a bit afterall:D
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Awww... Don't you enjoy listening to the melodious riffs JF welcomes the viewers..??

At least her helmet-hair is out of her face. The bangs used to drive me nuts(ier).

Interviewing CJ's cousin. She has no clue that dear cousin will be going away.

If I remember, JF is going to interview Scotto. Wonder if they have a metal detector ??

bearwds

[Fallen Angel]

Loni and Marta are going to be live at 10:00am PST to go over yesterday's closing arguments and then they're going to replay Owen's closing.

I also heard that they will be there with updates during jury deliberation.

ty so much. :beer:

[bearwds]

Fallen
OJ and attorneys are to be in the court room at 830, and I heard the commentators say that they would be on ktla.
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An update: Lawyers and defendant's will not be in courtroom. They are on 1/2 hour notice to appear.


bearwds

[Tubesworld]

JF complimenting Stewart's cousin for not wearing a sweat suit or pajamas to court! What a hoot!

[callmetree]

i've already run across a few. one that post here... no names please. he can really get me going. i'm just a hoping him and his buddies don't get to party after this verdict. i have several places i could suggest he go or do though!! :D:D

i've used it twice. but for some silly reason i just have to see what's going to come out of his mouth next. crazy huh? he is simply mind boggling to me. hammer this is what i want to do. i'm really trying to play nice though. we just have a very different opinion of what a respected man and a thug happens to be.

[callmetree]

That's good - we're not always accused of being "nice". You'll see when the "trolls" come out. Start locating your ignore button now and don't get caught up in silly controversies.

thanks snowbird... im trying to play nice. u have been one that has always been nice to me.:seeya:

[bearwds]

thanks snowbird... im trying to play nice. u have been one that has always been nice to me.:seeya:
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She is very affable.


bearwds

[callmetree]

Is tree tree your daughter?

Thats a great way to keep up with both cases!

Here is a good link this morning.

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=9118586&nav=15MUUi4B

Shows the deliberation room at the end of the clip.

I think OJ should have taken the stand.

Former celebrity slash murder suspect is goin down.

no she's not. my parents for whatever reason called me tree when i was little. actually they still do. keep telling myself it was a pet name.:shrug:

[Justice_Dawg]

Yale Gallanter in closing said "I will be the first to tell you that doing this on your own, going into a room trying to recover your own stolen property, is not bright."

Hey Yale...you're an attorney. Next time anybody asks you for legal advice you should tell them it is not only not bright, it's illegal!
I would do it myself too.
If OJ went to police and told them about his stolen property they would tell him to get an attorney..by then all of your stuff is gone.
But that's just me. :)

[warrkat]

JF complimenting Stewart's cousin for not wearing a sweat suit or pajamas to court! What a hoot!

HUH?
Obviously, I've missed something... what was it?

[callmetree]

Boy did he get it right when he said his client wasn't to bright.

i think he was being nice to use the word "bright". IMOO would have been better just to come out and say he is an idiot. :D

[Tubesworld]

HUH?
Obviously, I've missed something... what was it?

Earlier on JF program on TV, Stewart's cousin was briefly on her show. She was dressed in a red floral pattern top.

[Tubesworld]

Anyone know what Galantner is charging Simpson?

[Becky10]

That Thomas Riccio dude is a real creep. Went to FBI to try to get them involved. They said noooooo.

Thomas Riccio should be put in jail too.

Becky in Texas!!!!!:patriot:

[RGG]

Ok - comcast has my tv cut off (working on the lines for past 45mins) - do we already have a verdict back??????:confused:

[bearwds]

Earlier on JF program on TV, Stewart's cousin was briefly on her show. She was dressed in a red floral pattern top.
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Cousin just sat there when JF asked her 1st question. Dead air.

Being the bright bulb she is, JF then went into "dressing for success" rift.


bearwds

[AnnInOhio]

I would do it myself too.
If OJ went to police and told them about his stolen property they would tell him to get an attorney..by then all of your stuff is gone.
But that's just me. :)

Now Dawg, you know darned well if OJ had called police to report his "stolen" property when it was "stolen" years ago, police would have been more than happy to investigate and help him "find" it!

[warrkat]

Earlier on JF program on TV, Stewart's cousin was briefly on her show. She was dressed in a red floral pattern top.

okay, thanks.

I thought it had something to do with Michael Jackson.

[Tubesworld]

okay, thanks.

I thought it had something to do with Michael Jackson.

That's probably where JF got the pajama reference.

[Regina.Lampert]

I have found that the on line Las Vegas Review Journal newspaper does a very good job with their articles on the Simpson Trial. Here is the link to the current one for Friday, October 3:

http://www.lvrj.com/news/30256624.html

Thanks for that link and also thank you very much for your play by play yesterday, I couldn't watch it as it was happening so your posts were very informative.

[Fallen Angel]

Now Dawg, you know darned well if OJ had called police to report his "stolen" property when it was "stolen" years ago, police would have been more than happy to investigate and help him "find" it!

ITA......:beer:

[bearwds]

That's probably where JF got the pajama reference.
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She was leading right up to, but never got there, the 2nd appearance of Beardsley in his jailhouse frock and chains.

I was a bit surprised about that.


bearwds

[Tubesworld]

Why would it be so stressful for Scotto on the stand? I would think the truth wouldn't be stressful.

[Justice_Dawg]

Now Dawg, you know darned well if OJ had called police to report his "stolen" property when it was "stolen" years ago, police would have been more than happy to investigate and help him "find" it!

I know...But you know I love the vigil anti stuff. :biggrin:

[Kara]

I would do it myself too.
If OJ went to police and told them about his stolen property they would tell him to get an attorney..by then all of your stuff is gone.
But that's just me. :)

IF your name ain't OJ...if you are just plain old Joe blow....you will get the same response. I know...BF had his valuable speakers stolen by former band mates last year. We called the cops and the cops told us it was a civil matter.

[RGG]

Help is there a link showing the "jury clock?" My TV is still not working. I can see the cable truck and they are taking a leisure lunch - don't they know I'm on a jury watch?????:cuss:

Has the jury got a verdict - a question? Anything? ~whimper~

[chris32]

The two longest hours on television: Jami Floyd and the "Best Defense"
How much more can we take of her extolling the innocence and virtue of OJ?

The fastest I move all day: grabbing the remote and hitting the mute button when I hear her say, "I get the last word."

[warrkat]

Help is there a link showing the "jury clock?" My TV is still not working. I can see the cable truck and they are taking a leisure lunch - don't they know I'm on a jury watch?????:cuss:

Has the jury got a verdict - a question? Anything? ~whimper~


I'm at work, no tv. I keep refreshing the KTLA page, but nothing yet.

[warrkat]

The two longest hours on television: Jami Floyd and the "Best Defense"
How much more can we take of her extolling the innocence and virtue of OJ?

The fastest I move all day: grabbing the remote and hitting the mute button when I hear her say, "I get the last word."

Bet it makes you feel good to do that, doesn't it? :)

Remember "Outer Limits?" It started by saying "We are in control of your television set".... or something like that. My dad would jump out of his chair (no remote then), and as he changed the channel he'd say "I'll be d**mned if that's so!"

[Fallen Angel]

The two longest hours on television: Jami Floyd and the "Best Defense"
How much more can we take of her extolling the innocence and virtue of OJ?

The fastest I move all day: grabbing the remote and hitting the mute button when I hear her say, "I get the last word."

i could get a speeding ticket for how fast i can change the channel when i hear those words lol

[chris32]

Bet it makes you feel good to do that, doesn't it? :)

Remember "Outer Limits?" It started by saying "We are in control of your television set".... or something like that. My dad would jump out of his chair (no remote then), and as he changed the channel he'd say "I'll be d**mned if that's so!"

I totally remember that! They would show some messed up TV screen at the same time. Ah, the good old days of "Outer Limits", "Twilight Zone", and "The Alfred Hitchcock Hour."

Oh......and "Thriller', with Boris Karloff, not Michael Jackson.

[RGG]

I'm at work, no tv. I keep refreshing the KTLA page, but nothing yet.
TYVM Warrkat!! I'll go to KTLA right now.:)

[tashi]

TYVM Warrkat!! I'll go to KTLA right now.:)

Banner up...not live yet at KTLA

[warrkat]

I totally remember that! They would show some messed up TV screen at the same time. Ah, the good old days of "Outer Limits", "Twilight Zone", and "The Alfred Hitchcock Hour."

Oh......and "Thriller', with Boris Karloff, not Michael Jackson.

I liked Twilight Zone and Hitchcock, but only got to see it if the King of the Hill wasn't home. You can't reason with a man who actually sang along to Lawrence Welk music. :shrug:

[warrkat]

KTLA is live now..

The ladies are in RED today.

[Fallen Angel]

The ladies are in RED today.

they are both so pretty. I really enjoy their commentating. But how in the world do they ALWAYS match lol

[bearwds]

I liked Twilight Zone and Hitchcock, but only got to see it if the King of the Hill wasn't home. You can't reason with a man who actually sang along to Lawrence Welk music. :shrug:
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...anna one...anna two... ...turn on the bubble machine.

Glad CW gives us a bit of latitude posting while on jury watch.

House voting on bill. When did "bailout" become "rescue" ??

Rumor that KTLA is up....???


bearwds

[warrkat]

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...anna one...anna two... ...turn on the bubble machine.

Glad CW gives us a bit of latitude posting while on jury watch.

House voting on bill. When did "bailout" become "rescue" ??

Rumor that KTLA is up....???


bearwds

yes, they're replaying one of the closing arguments.

[warrkat]

Its apparently not casual Friday there: must be their "ready for a verdict suits". Do you all click on the line (at KTLA) that lets you listen while cruising the news articles? That is where I found out Erin McLean had been found in TX. And currently I see that "Killing Parents was on Teen's To Do list".

Note to self: remember to be affable with teeage granddaughter.

I saw that story about Erin McLean, too. She's living with another teen-ager. sheeeesh.

Hey......... one of the women just said to us, the audience "Hope you don't tired of red." I guess they always wear red for verdict watch? I don't know, never saw them before.

[RGG]

And currently I see that "Killing Parents was on Teen's To Do list".

Note to self: remember to be affable with teenage granddaughter.

Great idea Snowbird. I just paid g-grandson his allowance a day ahead and marked my computer calendar for when he turns 13 in 2011.
~gulp~:eek:

[RGG]

ANd Martand Loni going on lunch break till 1:15. Guess I can get some things done myself. I'm happy to note that the jury has passed the 3 hr mark: no quick NG for OJ this time around!

Do you know how long the jury was out when OJ had his 1st trial for murder?

[AnnInOhio]

I just spit my drink when I heard Yale Gallanter say "We all know, that by all accounts, Michael McClinton was the one giving the orders. He was the hothead, and he in charge of the people in that room. He was just barking things at people. He's making threats, he decides when OJ's got to leave, he grabs his arm, he pushes him out. I've discussed with you that this happens while OJ is actually talking with Mr. Fromong." Give me a break! That was OJ "talking" in that room, huh? That was OJ NOT being a hothead? Geez. What a set Yale has.

[warrkat]

Do you know how long the jury was out when OJ had his 1st trial for murder?

Less than four hours, according to this article:
http://OJ verdict stuns US | 1990-1999 | Guardian Century

Not sure if I did that right. Anyhoo, the article also states that Simpson declared he was going to look for the real killers. Wonder how that is coming along?

[5swab5]

I just spit my drink when I heard Yale Gallanter say "We all know, that by all accounts, Michael McClinton was the one giving the orders. He was the hothead, and he in charge of the people in that room. He was just barking things at people. He's making threats, he decides when OJ's got to leave, he grabs his arm, he pushes him out. I've discussed with you that this happens while OJ is actually talking with Mr. Fromong." Give me a break! That was OJ "talking" in that room, huh? That was OJ NOT being a hothead? Geez. What a set Yale has.

Yale spun quite the tale for the jury, that's for sure.

Beth said this morning that she was watching one of the jurors and she thought that she was in Yale's corner, because she was furiously taking notes during his summation.

I hope she was recording all his LIES!:biggrin:

MOO

Swabby

[Details]

I typed a fair number of posts and comments during his closing - countering all the half truths, half statements and lies (sorry - no other word - that witness he claims stated outright that he'd slant his testimony for money explicitly never said any such thing, and denied it numerous times when Yale tried to put those words into his mouth).

A juror taking notes definitely doesn't mean she's on his side. It could - or it could mean she's making sure she has exactly what he said to rebut it.

[5swab5]

Less than four hours, according to this article:
http://OJ verdict stuns US | 1990-1999 | Guardian Century

Not sure if I did that right. Anyhoo, the article also states that Simpson declared he was going to look for the real killers. Wonder how that is coming along?


That jury didn't deliberate, they had made up their minds before they were even impaneled.

Hopefully this jury will be different.

MOO

Swabby

[september]

Yale spun quite the tale for the jury, that's for sure.

Beth said this morning that she was watching one of the jurors and she thought that she was in Yale's corner, because she was furiously taking notes during his summation.

I hope she was recording all his LIES!:biggrin:

MOO

Swabby



Is she an engineer, is she juror #10? Will this be deija vu all over again.

Please, please no hung jury !


September MOO
Welcome back Becky haven't seen you in a long time.

[Fallen Angel]

does anyone think we'll see a verdict today?

[Details]

No, I don't expect one. I think they need at least 2 days, and a night to sleep on it. Just to review, for their own peace of mind. And to debate Stewart - he's the far more difficult case than OJ. And even OJ isn't that simple - easy to say guilty of some charges - but which ones? They'll be discussing the legal definition of kidnapping versus coercion, which one applies, etc.

[5swab5]

Is she an engineer, is she juror #10? Will this be deija vu all over again.

Please, please no hung jury !


September MOO
Welcome back Becky haven't seen you in a long time.

I don't know. The only other thing that Beth said, that I can remember, was that she sat in the back row.

[AnnInOhio]

"This stuff, this isn't property to him. This is his life. This is the timeline of his life. This is the foundation of his life. This is what allowed him, or any of us, to buy the watches, the homes, the cars, the suits, the ties. And that's why this property raised such high emotion...this was about the absolute essence, the cornerstone and the foundation of OJ Simpson's life. That's why this property was so sacred to him."
Please. If my life ever spirals down to where any "things" could be regarded as being the "essence of my life", I would be so ashamed I wouldn't want to be remembered at all.

[5swab5]

But the time to call hotel security and call the police or ask security to do it was when they went to the room and identifyed the "stuff" and the "thieves". You step back out into the hall (empty handed and in view of comeras) and call. You know that they can't load all that stuff up and run before security can get there. They had lots of time to plan this and that is what they should have planned.

I know you know that - and we all know the reasons why OJ would never do that.... besides the fact that he's dumb, as Yale said.

Gotta admit tho, that OJ was kinda clever.

Doesn't seem that any of the thugs knew what the other thugs were going to be doing.

If this jury turns him loose...I think we should just let it go.

Let him rape, murder and pillage with impunity. No sense wasting any more tax dollars on someone that not only thinks he is above the law, but has had it proven.

MOO

Swabby

[Details]

But the time to call hotel security and call the police or ask security to do it was when they went to the room and identifyed the "stuff" and the "thieves". You step back out into the hall (empty handed and in view of comeras) and call. You know that they can't load all that stuff up and run before security can get there. They had lots of time to plan this and that is what they should have planned.

I know you know that - and we all know the reasons why OJ would never do that.... besides the fact that he's dumb, as Yale said.Or you go in there with cameras and take pictures proving they have the stuff, then the lawyers can sue them. There are so many ways to do this legally - as OJ was told by the police, and likely by his own attorney, and even, really, by Riccio, whose plan in the tapes sounds much closer to that type of sting, than the armed robbery that took place.

[warrkat]

That jury didn't deliberate, they had made up their minds before they were even impaneled.

Hopefully this jury will be different.

MOO

Swabby

I know they didn't; it was just the amount of time I was looking at. The word "travesty" in the dictionary should have a picture of that jury beside it. jmo

[september]

I don't know. The only other thing that Beth said, that I can remember, was that she sat in the back row.

I'm sorry 5 I was just being funny.......referring to the juror who hung the Spector trial. I think there is a very good chance this jury will hang.

To echo another poster he will have proven that he is above the law and can do whatever. I truly believe that he believes he is above the law.

[missy's mom]

Will the jury be deliberating through the weekend?

[SaintDog]

Hi Folks ...

Take a look at how many times I've posted here. Unlike you, I'm a novice at all this. I've been all over google like a new suit looking for a site or TV program that will report the verdict live.

UM... know any?

Regards,
Saintdog :confused:

[missy's mom]

Fox News Network will and probably CNN as well.

[Lqqkout]

Boy did he get it right when he said his client wasn't to bright.

That would be too as in "not too bright".

[RGG]

Hi Folks ...

Take a look at how many times I've posted here. Unlike you, I'm a novice at all this. I've been all over google like a new suit looking for a site or TV program that will report the verdict live.

UM... know any?
Regards,
Saintdog :confused:

Try this one, but if it goes off-air, then you'll need to rely on the major news channels:
http://www.ktla.com/livevideo_channelb
:)

[5swab5]

Just out of idle curiosity, if you are watching the Courthouse online, what are you seeing?

Are there people milling around, or is the camera just aimed at the jury clock?

TIA

Swabby

[Details]

There's usually an hour's notice, you'll see it here, likely on CNN as well. You can always tell because the forum starts getting very frequent posts, likely a new thread will show up.

From there - it may well be on TV, but in the Links thread, there are a few links to live feeds that will show you probably more than the TV will.

I wait for that hour's notice, then go get my feed up.

[CatBallou]

and KTLA where I'm watching Loni and Marta discuss it right now.
Maybe even KLAS (LasVegasNow) will do it. And Jurorthirteen


Ist thing new poster can do is check the LINKS Only thread for each trial; such as this one and the Brian Nichols trial in Atlanta. This is where posters will share the links for LIVE FEED. broadcasts. Much needed with the short day TruTV has and how iffy CNN can be.

Is there any talking on KTLA, all I see is a still picture with no sound. :shrug:

[Fallen Angel]

Is there any talking on KTLA, all I see is a still picture with no sound. :shrug:

not right now they said they would be back in a few . they want to find out whats going on.

[CatBallou]

not right now they said they would be back in a few . they want to find out whats going on.

OK thanks!!:seeya:

[missy's mom]

Are they anticipating a verdict today?

[RGG]

not right now they said they would be back in a few . they want to find out whats going on.
The ladies said about 5 mins ago, they would take a break and if anything came up, the feed would come back up.

[JaneDoe]

:seeya:
I was wondering since we are in verdict watch does Courttv still have it's verdict mobile alerts....I can't seem to find it.

[CatBallou]

:seeya:
I was wondering since we are in verdict watch does Courttv still have it's verdict mobile alerts....I can't seem to find it.

Unfortunately it is not Courttv anymore, and the format on CNN is different.

[tashi]

Here are the verdict forms the jury has to fill out:




http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/media/Verdict-Forms-Blank.PDF

[RGG]

This is a MUST VIEW - it's Thomas Scotto and Sabrina and tells how CALDWELL lied. UH OH - Scotto also says he's got a clean record - LIAR - I've already found his background - but never mind.

Here's the link:
http://www.thelegaledge.com/index.php?livecover#

Move to the right and on the RIGHT side -
Daily Updates and Features
the 2nd video.

WOW

[RGG]

Here are the verdict forms the jury has to fill out:
http://www.clarkcountycourts.us/media/Verdict-Forms-Blank.PDF

TYVM Tashi Did you also post this with the LINK string?

[JaneDoe]

Unfortunately it is not Courttv anymore, and the format on CNN is different.

Okay...thank you :)

[tashi]

TYVM Tashi Did you also post this with the LINK string?


Thanks for the reminder...just did it

[Tubesworld]

This is a MUST VIEW - it's Thomas Scotto and Sabrina and tells how CALDWELL lied. UH OH - Scotto also says he's got a clean record - LIAR - I've already found his background - but never mind.

Here's the link:
http://www.thelegaledge.com/index.php?livecover#

Move to the right and on the RIGHT side -
Daily Updates and Features
the 2nd video.

WOW
Thanks for posting the link.

[cherylt]

Hi all!

I am reading to catch up for today to see if I missed anything. Were there any juror questions yet that we know of?

TIA!

[callmetree]

Hi Folks ...

Take a look at how many times I've posted here. Unlike you, I'm a novice at all this. I've been all over google like a new suit looking for a site or TV program that will report the verdict live.

UM... know any?

Regards,
Saintdog :confused:

just wanted to say WELCOME. i'm fairly new also. :seeya:

[RGG]

Not that I've heard of yet Cherylt!

[cherylt]

Not that I've heard of yet Cherylt!



Thanks so much for the info, RGG!

Guess we are playing the waiting game...5 1/2 hour approx, I think

[Fallen Angel]

i hope they come up with a verdict today because i dont want to think about this ALL weekend. lol

[5swab5]

Does anyone remember what time they said that the jury would deliberate to?

5:30? 6:30?

[Fallen Angel]

Does anyone remember what time they said that the jury would deliberate to?

5:30? 6:30?

i thought they said 630 and its 3pm there now

[legalmania]

Thanks so much for the info, RGG!

Guess we are playing the waiting game...5 1/2 hour approx, I think


Hey cherylt,

I won't be surprised if both defendants are preparing briefs as we speak for appeals. I don't know about Nevada law but this could stop the verdict until the appeals are heard. Anyway there hasn't been anything about conflict of interest raised or anything about Yale going down. I didn't see any reason for it. Now after the trial if OJ wins or loses that's a whole different ballgame. It could very well end up locked.

[RGG]

It's definitely nerve wracking about now, so I'll just have to turn off the forums and wait and watch tv for some news.

I've already filled out MY JUROR Verdict Form - and have 10 out of 12 for each OJ and CJ.

What a day.

If they don't have a verdict tonight, I hope they come to court tomorrow and "get 'er done!":)

[Lyndawitha"Y]

what was the formula that Vinnie P. use to expound during deliberations.1 hour per day?? something like that..Anyone remember//

LMS:seeya:

[beckyj]

Imagine how difficult the weekend will be for OJ if they don't reach a verdict today...

I don't mind waiting for the RIGHT verdict. :seeya:
So, I'm afraid to ask, but what is the "right" verdict? I haven't been on this board much or paying a lot of attention to this trial.

[5swab5]

i thought they said 630 and its 3pm there now

Thanks!

BUT, UGG!

Note To Self: Only get hooked on trials in your own time zone.;)

MOO

[ellvarn]

Could somone tell me when they come back on ktla, because all I am getting is a window with a picture of oj - so am I in the right place? I have never been on ktla before - hammer

TYIA

[5swab5]

what was the formula that Vinnie P. use to expound during deliberations.1 hour per day?? something like that..Anyone remember//

LMS:seeya:

I think that is right, one hour for each day of testimony.

I LOVES me some Vinnie! Where'd he go?

MOO

Swabby

[Lyndawitha"Y]

So, I'm afraid to ask, but what is the "right" verdict? I haven't been on this board much or paying a lot of attention to this trial.

Well..I guess you want to know if the jury should find a verdict according to the law of Nevada?..or Law according to OJ and CO.??? If the jury follows the law..it was proven beyond reasonable doubt.but if you fantasize and think everybody is lying..then OJ will get his acquittal..

As for me,.. They better get OJ on most of theses counts...or may as well hang up the laws...when it comes to OJ!??

LMS:seeya:

[Lyndawitha"Y]

I think that is right, one hour for each day of testimony.

I LOVES me some Vinnie! Where'd he go?

MOO

Swabby

Anybody have a count on actual days???I have 13 days in my mind for some reason?!!

LMS:eek:

[tashi]

Could somone tell me when they come back on ktla, because all I am getting is a window with a picture of oj - so am I in the right place? I have never been on ktla before - hammer

TYIA


You're in the right place...Marta & Loni stated that they were going to be in the newsroom until the jury leaves for the day.

They will go live if there are any updates in the case, until then, all you get is the OJ picture. I have that website minimized but left my speakers on so I could hear them if they come back.

I'm really hoping for a verdict today...

[cherylt]

what was the formula that Vinnie P. use to expound during deliberations.1 hour per day?? something like that..Anyone remember//

LMS:seeya:

1 day for every week of testimony.. 2 - 3 days on this one...

[Lqqkout]

Hey cherylt,

I won't be surprised if both defendants are preparing briefs as we speak for appeals. I don't know about Nevada law but this could stop the verdict until the appeals are heard. Anyway there hasn't been anything about conflict of interest raised or anything about Yale going down. I didn't see any reason for it. Now after the trial if OJ wins or loses that's a whole different ballgame. It could very well end up locked.

Hi Legal, I saw so many grounds for appeal I can't count them starting from day 1 when Judge Glass limited the time for this trial to end before she embarked on her cruise.

[cherylt]

Hey cherylt,

I won't be surprised if both defendants are preparing briefs as we speak for appeals. I don't know about Nevada law but this could stop the verdict until the appeals are heard. Anyway there hasn't been anything about conflict of interest raised or anything about Yale going down. I didn't see any reason for it. Now after the trial if OJ wins or loses that's a whole different ballgame. It could very well end up locked.

REALLY?! That sounds dreadful. I haven't ever heard of that happening, but if it could happen anywhere, it would be OJ's case...
I'm thinking the jury when they 1st got into the room said something like, "look, we can win no matter what we decide. If we don't convict, we'll be wishy-washy OJ lovers; if we do convict, we'll be told it will be payback for that "other" trial." I would not want to be on this jury!

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Hi Legal, I saw so many grounds for appeal I can't count them starting from day 1 when Judge Glass limited the time for this trial to end before she embarked on her cruise.

I dont follow..Defense only called a few witnesses..and the trial lasted 2-3 weeks and it was projected to be 5 weeks..so where is an apellate issue??Dont get that one??:confused:
LMS:seeya:

[cherylt]

Thanks!

BUT, UGG!

Note To Self: Only get hooked on trials in your own time zone.;)

MOO

No kidding! My DH thinks I am a LOON for being upstairs w/ my laptop for HOURS at night& throughout the afternoon, of course... :)

[ellvarn]

You're in the right place...Marta & Loni stated that they were going to be in the newsroom until the jury leaves for the day.

They will go live if there are any updates in the case, until then, all you get is the OJ picture. I have that website minimized but left my speakers on so I could hear them if they come back.

I'm really hoping for a verdict today...

TY-Tashi, I haven't been posting, but I have been watching the trial and reading most of the posts when I could. So I have been here from the beginning, but I just go through spurts of not posting because of health as some of you know-sorry a little O/T but I will try to hang in here with y'all tonight. Also I just pulled up the verdict forms and going to take a look in a bit.
I too love Vinnie and believe in the "Politan theory" of duration for trials. I miss you Vinnie.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

TY-Tashi, I haven't been posting, but I have been watching the trial and reading most of the posts when I could. So I have been here from the beginning, but I just go through spurts of not posting because of health as some of you know-sorry a little O/T but I will try to hang in here with y'all tonight. Also I just pulled up the verdict forms and going to take a look in a bit.
I too love Vinnie and believe in the "Politan theory" of duration for trials. I miss you Vinnie.

I agree K-9..I wish that Michel Bryant and Vinney would get together..that would be a dynamic duo...LOL

LMS:beer:

[Fallen Angel]

Hi Legal, I saw so many grounds for appeal I can't count them starting from day 1 when Judge Glass limited the time for this trial to end before she embarked on her cruise.

wow are you a lawyer? because loni said she didn't see any :shrug:

[ellvarn]

I agree K-9..I wish that Michel Bryant and Vinney would get together..that would be a dynamic duo...LOL

LMS:beer:

That would make me never leave this puter.

BRB - :seeya:

[5swab5]

Anybody have a count on actual days???I have 13 days in my mind for some reason?!!

LMS:eek:

Sounds about right, hmm, maybe 12, because they were quiet for Rosh Hashanah?

BUT, the verdict form is LONG and there are 2 defendants, so who knows? Vinnie's formula might not work this time.
MOO

Swabby

[Fallen Angel]

You're in the right place...Marta & Loni stated that they were going to be in the newsroom until the jury leaves for the day.

They will go live if there are any updates in the case, until then, all you get is the OJ picture. I have that website minimized but left my speakers on so I could hear them if they come back.

I'm really hoping for a verdict today...

i've done the same thing.lol

i'm really ready for a verdict.


i wonder if they were dressed up today. did anyone say??

[5swab5]

i've done the same thing.lol

i'm really ready for a verdict.


i wonder if they were dressed up today. did anyone say??

Someone said, I think Beth..that they were very casually dressed.

[cherylt]

I agree K-9..I wish that Michel Bryant and Vinney would get together..that would be a dynamic duo...LOL

LMS:beer:

Vinnie had Michael Bryant on his Sirius show about 4 months ago & it was GREAT! It is really too bad they can't do it regularly & that Vinnie switched to talking all about politics!

[Fallen Angel]

Someone said, I think Beth..that they were very casually dressed.

oh thank you........well i guess it won't be today then :(

[Details]

Someone said, I think Beth..that they were very casually dressed.Always a bit hard to predict that - East and West have different expectations about dress. Out here, dressing up is wearing your nice blue-jeans, and something like a blouse or a nice shirt.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Always a bit hard to predict that - East and West have different expectations about dress. Out here, dressing up is wearing your nice blue-jeans, and something like a blouse or a nice shirt.

Details....Dress code there is so fluctuating..geesh some went to the heist in shorts and others went in suit and ties...LOL
LMS:eek:

[MOMMOM]

Is OJ still with Christy Prody and if so where is she?

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Is OJ still with Christy Prody and if so where is she?

\prody was NOT there...she is back in Florida..maybe recuperating from injuries..whatever.but she was not at the trial!!

LMS:seeya:

[Fallen Angel]

wow do these jurors not ask ANY questions?? grrr

[tashi]

Fox news in Las Vegas stated:

The media will know two hours before the verdict comes down

http://www.fox5vegas.com/news/17621060/detail.html

[cherylt]

Is it true what I heard on the radio today that today's is the 13th anniv. of OJ being found not guilty in the Nicole and Ron murders? How ironic is that?

Yes, it is VERY ironic! If there is a verdict by the end of the day, that will be even more ironic. But I don't think there will be a verdict until Monday or Tuesday....

[ellvarn]

I am still not getting anything on ktla except "his" picture, so am I missing anything? I did refresh it, but I have to leave the puter long enough to give all my critters their treats and meds - hammer

I am so hoping to hear something and I hope to stay with y'all until we know what is going on. So anyone getting anything?

Now to my critters.

[Details]

So, I'm afraid to ask, but what is the "right" verdict? I haven't been on this board much or paying a lot of attention to this trial.For me - OJ guilty on most or all charges, Stewart guilty on one or two.

In this trial, there's about triple the evidence that would normally convict someone.

In a normal armed robbery case, you'd have the testimony of the victims, as we do, the recording of their 911 call. We have that. The tape of Beardsley calling 911 to say they've been robbed at gunpoint by OJ mere moments after it happened, Fromong and Beardsly describing the robbery, identifying their assailants, the stolen property found in the posession of the suspects, and video showing OJ and crew walking into the room empty handed, walking out of the room carrying the stolen items. That'd more than convict any normal person.

But - over and above that, we've got the testimony of the thugs, of the accessories, through a plea deal (as usual - this is not abnormal for police to use a plea to get people to testify). This again - more than enough alone to convict. While some of these people have records, others do not have anything serious on their record, others were pretty much hapless saps who just wandered into what they thought was a job carrying stuff for OJ, and turned out to be a robbery.

But then we go several miles further - the planning, the robbery itself, and bragging and joking about it afterwards was all recorded. Nice unbiased tapes. Recorded by multiple people, confirming the stories of the victims, the thugs, and everyone other than OJ. Many of these tapes have enough of the details to prove many charges alone.

So, either everyone is lying, including tape recorders - or OJ is guilty. Stewart there's a bit more wiggle room - a case could be made he thought he was just there to carry stuff too - with a bit of evidence maybe slightly ignored.



And for the defense - aside from a bunch of challenging the tapes - and the tapes are hard to challenge because it's plenty clear enough to hear what is going on, and there's enough cross talk that hints of modification (that the FBI expert said he looked for and did not find) are really not credible - the whole OJ defense has been that it's his stuff. The prosecution not only wiped that idea out, but also the law says even if you honestly believe something to be yours (and OJ took stuff that by no definition could he believe was his - cell phone, Montana lithographs, etc.) you still can't lure someone to a hotel room, hold them there with armed thugs, and take it back by threat of force.

It's a clear-cut case - for anyone other than OJ, there's many, many, many times the evidence normally needed to prove the case.

[warrkat]

Yes, it is VERY ironic! If there is a verdict by the end of the day, that will be even more ironic. But I don't think there will be a verdict until Monday or Tuesday....

Probably not, but it would be poetic justice if it were to come tonight.

How much difference between the East Coast and Las Vegas? I'm thinking 3 hours.

[ellvarn]

I missed that. I'm so frustrated with that site. I recognizes me when pull it up - welcomes me by name - but if I want to see the chat it wants me to log in and then it won't recognize me.

I tried to sign up again but it won't let me because my email addy is already in use - which I know - they email me all the time.

WOW - that's what is happening to me - maybe we can get with each other on PM's over the weekend and try to figure it out.

BRB

[Details]

It's 4:26 right now in Vegas - same timezone as I am in. Hope that answers the question.

[Fallen Angel]

I am still not getting anything on ktla except "his" picture, so am I missing anything? I did refresh it, but I have to leave the puter long enough to give all my critters their treats and meds - hammer

I am so hoping to hear something and I hope to stay with y'all until we know what is going on. So anyone getting anything?

Now to my critters.

theres nothing to watch

loni and marta said they would stay there till the jury left. IF there is a verdict or question they will let us know.


i'm sooooooooo ready for a verdict :(

[warrkat]

It's 4:26 right now in Vegas - same timezone as I am in. Hope that answers the question.

yes, it does. 3 hours; it's 7:34 here.
thank you

[Kelly3820]

I wonder what Fred Goldman and Kim are thinking today?:rose:

[cherylt]

For me - OJ guilty on most or all charges, Stewart guilty on one or two.

In this trial, there's about triple the evidence that would normally convict someone.

In a normal armed robbery case, you'd have the testimony of the victims, as we do, the recording of their 911 call. We have that. The tape of Beardsley calling 911 to say they've been robbed at gunpoint by OJ mere moments after it happened, Fromong and Beardsly describing the robbery, identifying their assailants, the stolen property found in the posession of the suspects, and video showing OJ and crew walking into the room empty handed, walking out of the room carrying the stolen items. That'd more than convict any normal person.

But - over and above that, we've got the testimony of the thugs, of the accessories, through a plea deal (as usual - this is not abnormal for police to use a plea to get people to testify). This again - more than enough alone to convict. While some of these people have records, others do not have anything serious on their record, others were pretty much hapless saps who just wandered into what they thought was a job carrying stuff for OJ, and turned out to be a robbery.

But then we go several miles further - the planning, the robbery itself, and bragging and joking about it afterwards was all recorded. Nice unbiased tapes. Recorded by multiple people, confirming the stories of the victims, the thugs, and everyone other than OJ. Many of these tapes have enough of the details to prove many charges alone.

So, either everyone is lying, including tape recorders - or OJ is guilty. Stewart there's a bit more wiggle room - a case could be made he thought he was just there to carry stuff too - with a bit of evidence maybe slightly ignored.

And for the defense - aside from a bunch of challenging the tapes - and the tapes are hard to challenge because it's plenty clear enough to hear what is going on, and there's enough cross talk that hints of modification (that the FBI expert said he looked for and did not find) are really not credible - the whole OJ defense has been that it's his stuff. The prosecution not only wiped that idea out, but also the law says even if you honestly believe something to be yours (and OJ took stuff that by no definition could he believe was his - cell phone, Montana lithographs, etc.) you still can't lure someone to a hotel room, hold them there with armed thugs, and take it back by threat of force.

It's a clear-cut case - for anyone other than OJ, there's many, many, many times the evidence normally needed to prove the case.


Wow Details - that was very well thought out & I think very well stated. I agree with your assessment of the situation (I guess I'm too lazy to write all that and articulate my thoughts most days.. :) )

I do think Stewart is a little more accountable though. He kept the stuff (and hid it away, not in his house) and they used his truck, so I think he should get a couple more charges than what you stated, but that's JMO. OJ by far should get the majority of the charges of Guilty if the jury looks at all the evidence & how the Prosecutors outlined the charges with the applicable evidence/testimony.

[Lyndawitha"Y]

Wow Details - that was very well thought out & I think very well stated. I agree with your assessment of the situation (I guess I'm too lazy to write all that and articulate my thoughts most days.. :) )

I do think Stewart is a little more accountable though. He kept the stuff (and hid it away, not in his house) and they used his truck, so I think he should get a couple more charges than what you stated, but that's JMO. OJ by far should get the majority of the charges of Guilty if the jury looks at all the evidence & how the Prosecutors outlined the charges with the applicable evidence/testimony.

The problem with guys like CJ....he is no different than Fromong and Gilbert post Oj's first trial/bad acts..for some unknown reason grown men wil sell their souls to that devil and back him to their detriment..OJ should burn in hades for his evil influences...but..they made their bed they must lie in it!! Whatever comes their way!!! I believe they all will pay in their FINAL JUDGEMENT.(accordingly)....so dont sweat the small stuff..Their souls are all doomed.unless they confess..They are all weenies..and play big games..and people get hurt!!!!

LMShammer

[ellvarn]

13 years ago today, Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman rolled over in their graves..

very ironic

That statement went right to my heart and brought tears to my eyes, and that is the way I have always felt.

Nicole Brown & Ron Goldman - :rose:

[RGG]

TV just said the VERDICT AT ANY MINUTE

Any one else just hear that?????

[Details]

Oh, please don't be joking or wrong - it'd be fun to have a verdict.

Nothing on cnn.com website....nothing on KTLA video other than a static picture... on Thelegaledge, someone else heard it on Nancy Grace...

Still rumor yet - but it could be the first ripple - or a misunderstanding.

[RGG]

Oh, please don't be joking or wrong - it'd be fun to have a verdict.

Nothing on cnn.com website....

no way would I joke about this - I've been trying ktla and legaledge but see nothing on it. I was either at Cnn or Fox - flipping back/forth.

I'll see if I can find more somewhere - this ticks me off if it's a durn tease from Cnn!!!

[Justice_Dawg]

Oh, please don't be joking or wrong - it'd be fun to have a verdict.

Nothing on cnn.com website....nothing on KTLA video other than a static picture... on Thelegaledge, someone else heard it on Nancy Grace...

Still rumor yet - but it could be the first ripple - or a misunderstanding.

Scared me to death! :chicken:

[RGG]

Nothing on cnn.com website....nothing on KTLA video other than a static picture... on Thelegaledge, someone else heard it on Nancy Grace...

Still rumor yet - but it could be the first ripple - or a misunderstanding.
THEN THAT'S IT - I detest how Nancy Grace sticks that crap up for the "gotchas" - I'll bet that's all it was!

Never mind folks - I think it was a ploy to get folks to watch her show! Thanks so much Details - and I apologize to everyone here.

[ellvarn]

Oh My Oh My - my heart is racing, but I am back from giving my dogs their treats, hugs, kisses, and kicking my boyfriend - :punch:

[warrkat]

THEN THAT'S IT - I detest how Nancy Grace sticks that crap up for the "gotchas" - I'll bet that's all it was!

Never mind folks - I think it was a ploy to get folks to watch her show! Thanks so much Details - and I apologize to everyone here.

She drives me NUTS when she does that! That, and her "bombshells."

[Details]

I'm glad. Family dinner in an hour. I'd like to be able to be here for the verdict.

[CatS48]

TV just said the VERDICT AT ANY MINUTE

Any one else just hear that?????

Nancy Grace just led in with the words

THE JURYs OUT IN THE OJ SIMPSON CASE!!

Do not know if that means there is a verdict or not. Nancy always hypes things horribly. It sounded like they had reached a verdict (the way she said it) but it just might mean they are OUT for the night!

Geeze, I can not stand that woman!

hammer

[CatBallou]

THEN THAT'S IT - I detest how Nancy Grace sticks that crap up for the "gotchas" - I'll bet that's all it was!

Never mind folks - I think it was a ploy to get folks to watch her show! Thanks so much Details - and I apologize to everyone here.

Nancy Grace did not say that at all, she said that if there WERE a verdict then they would go there.

People just love to tell a little fib to get the board going.

Shame on you RGG!

[dreamlawyer]

Does anyone know how late the jury is deliberating today, and I heard that they may deliberate over the weekend is that true???

[Justice_Dawg]

She drives me NUTS when she does that! That, and her "bombshells."

She drives me nuts.. always.

[Details]

RGG wasn't the only one fooled - other people on other sites heard the same thing. And that is the purpose of those teasers to come as close as possible to saying something big is coming up, without outright promising it, so people watch the show. It's no big deal being mistaken on that type of thing.

[Details]

Does anyone know how late the jury is deliberating today, and I heard that they may deliberate over the weekend is that true???I've heard that here often enough, that it's their choice if they wish to deliberate over the weekend.

[CatBallou]

Does anyone know how late the jury is deliberating today, and I heard that they may deliberate over the weekend is that true???

Someone said 6:30 pdt. It is 5:30 there right now.

Have not heard about weekend.

[Justice_Dawg]

THEN THAT'S IT - I detest how Nancy Grace sticks that crap up for the "gotchas" - I'll bet that's all it was!

Never mind folks - I think it was a ploy to get folks to watch her show! Thanks so much Details - and I apologize to everyone here.
It's ok. Greta is good for doing that too. :rolleyes:

[CatBallou]

RGG wasn't the only one fooled - other people on other sites heard the same thing. And that is the purpose of those teasers to come as close as possible to saying something big is coming up, without outright promising it, so people watch the show. It's no big deal being mistaken on that type of thing.

Well I was listening and I heard nothing that made me think there was a verdict, her headline was the jury is out on OJ, meaning IMO that they were deliberating. Others may have taken it wrong.

If so sorry.

[Fallen Angel]

omg it drives me crazy when CNN does that. i'm a little surprised marta and loni didn't come back to tell us SOMETHING :cuss:

[ellvarn]

I emailed them so we'll see what they say. I'll send you my regular email addy.

It just came in, and it will be tomorrow before I can get back to you, after the jury quits tonight or brings in a verdict, I have to delete cookies etc. - puter is soooo slow. Thank you.

[dreamlawyer]

Someone said 6:30 pdt. It is 5:30 there right now.

Have not heard about weekend.

Thanks for the info, so about 1 hour to go today. I'm sure hoping that if they do reach a verdict someone will be there to show live coverage!

[Details]

Well I was listening and I heard nothing that made me think there was a verdict, her headline was the jury is out on OJ, meaning IMO that they were deliberating. Others may have taken it wrong.

If so sorry.Jury is out - I can see that being misleading. Out as in finished, out as in done for the day, or out as in still deliberating - very ambiguous line.

[CatBallou]

Thanks for the info, so about 1 hour to go today. I'm sure hoping that if they do reach a verdict someone will be there to show live coverage!

You're welcome :seeya:

[Details]

BEEEEEEPP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEOOOP!

This has been a test. If this had been a true OJ verdict, you would have been directed to the nearest live feed for further instructions. This has been only a test. We will now return you to your usual discussions.

BEEP BEEP BEEP.

[warrkat]

RGG wasn't the only one fooled - other people on other sites heard the same thing. And that is the purpose of those teasers to come as close as possible to saying something big is coming up, without outright promising it, so people watch the show. It's no big deal being mistaken on that type of thing.

No big deal at all. I'd rather hear that the verdict was in, and find out it was a mistake, than to miss it because no one posted it.

[dreamlawyer]

When they say that the jury is out, that usually means that they are still deliberating.

[Justice_Dawg]

BEEEEEEPP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEOOOP!

This has been a test. If this had been a true OJ verdict, you would have been directed to the nearest live feed for further instructions. This has been only a test. We will now return you to your usual discussions.

BEEP BEEP BEEP.:lol::lol::lol:

[Fallen Angel]

When they say that the jury is out, that usually means that they are still deliberating.

exactly....:beer:

[dreamlawyer]

BEEEEEEPP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEOOOP!

This has been a test. If this had been a true OJ verdict, you would have been directed to the nearest live feed for further instructions. This has been only a test. We will now return you to your usual discussions.

BEEP BEEP BEEP.

:lol::lol::beer:

[RGG]

Nancy Grace did not say that at all, she said that if there WERE a verdict then they would go there.

People just love to tell a little fib to get the board going.

Shame on you RGG!

You do NOT know me - I take no shame on that and I did not FIB!

I came from the tv room and directly here to check if it was already published and you can just shove your hate back into the little jar.
Go back and check my posts - I've never stirred the pot in here!

[Details]

I am hearing little tidbits - jury is still working, wanted to work through dinner, and so they've ordered it in for the jury. Good news, IMO - juries that are debating well, having productive discussions, work long days, IMO, juries that are frustrated, unable to communicate, take any opportunity to separate, quit early for the day and get a break.

[CatS48]

I have one huge problem with this trial.

It was not allowed to be mentioned that there was a judical order ordering the turnover of OJs stuff to the Goldmans. Yet, the defense is allowed to use the words that this stuff was STOLEN from OJ and he was just trying to GET HIS STOLEN STUFF BACK!.

OJ GAVE this STUFF to other people to HIDE for him so that the Goldmans could NOT get it. NOBODY STOLE his stuff! It was so sickening whrn Gallenter in his summation kept saying THIS MAN WAS JUST TRYING TO GET HIS STUFF BACK THAT WAS STOLEN FROM HIM! He said it over and over and over again.

Truth is OJ was not overly concerned thru the years where his stuff was. The only time he became upset is when he needed to get his hands on it to sell because he needed the money - or, as in this case, where he heard someome was tring to SELL HIS STUFF and it infurated him!

This guy is an arrogant BULLY! He holds himself in such high regard that he is going to pull the GODFATHER act when someone DARES to cross him.

Poor Nichole - she dared to try to move on and have a life without him. She is dead because the GODFATHER felt she was not under his control anymorre. This man belongs in jail because he feels he is the law and can do anything he wants to do!!

Whew, sorry - I just got so angry over this sorry man feeling justified in anything he does.

[dreamlawyer]

I am hearing little tidbits - jury is still working, wanted to work through dinner, and so they've ordered it in for the jury. Good news, IMO - juries that are debating well, having productive discussions, work long days, IMO, juries that are frustrated, unable to communicate, take any opportunity to separate, quit early for the day and get a break.

Good observation! They could be getting somewhere and want to keep working to hopefully come to a verdict tonight, of course that's just reading tea leaves.

BTW~ Where are you hearing your tidbits at???? Would love to know.

[CatBallou]

You do NOT know me - I take no shame on that and I did not FIB!

I came from the tv room and directly here to check if it was already published and you can just shove your hate back into the little jar.
Go back and check my posts - I've never stirred the pot in here!

Don't get your shorts or panty's in an uproar, I already apologized and I don't have hate, and I have been on these boards in one phase or another for many years, since 1999, and that always happens when we are awaiting a verdict.

I have not posted much lately as I have cancer, thankfully in remission, but I get tired easy. I did not know you that is right but when someone pointed out that others thought they heard it too, I immediately said I was sorry.

Just put me on ignore and chill out!!!!:beer:

[Details]

Cats, A trial always gives the defense more leeway than the prosecutor - but it was introduced that OJ 'gave' these items to Gilbert, and discussions of turn over orders were all throughout, and in the closing arguments, the prosecutor got plenty of info in about the turn over and how the stuff was not his - even if that mattered.

It's frustrating - but it's how a trial has to go - and they still had more than enough to convict.

[tashi]

I am hearing little tidbits - jury is still working, wanted to work through dinner, and so they've ordered it in for the jury. Good news, IMO - juries that are debating well, having productive discussions, work long days, IMO, juries that are frustrated, unable to communicate, take any opportunity to separate, quit early for the day and get a break.


That is good news...Thanks!

[CatBallou]

Good observation! They could be getting somewhere and want to keep working to hopefully come to a verdict tonight, of course that's just reading tea leaves.

BTW~ Where are you hearing your tidbits at???? Would love to know.

Right now on Nancy Grace.....still deliberating and want dinner.

[Kimberlee]

FYI... Jury has requested to have dinner brought in so that they can continue deliberating...

[Details]

Good observation! They could be getting somewhere and want to keep working to hopefully come to a verdict tonight, of course that's just reading tea leaves.

BTW~ Where are you hearing your tidbits at???? Would love to know.Thelegaledge, and they're getting it from KTLA, local news from those who live in Vegas, and Nancy Grace. Little tiny chat room there. They also report no questions yet. I'm thinking they may have decided to hold them until they work out the counts that they need no questions on.

[Justice_Dawg]

Good observation! They could be getting somewhere and want to keep working to hopefully come to a verdict tonight, of course that's just reading tea leaves.

BTW~ Where are you hearing your tidbits at???? Would love to know.

NG just said any time now. Is she lying?

[CatS48]

Nancy Grace just led in with the words

THE JURYs OUT IN THE OJ SIMPSON CASE!!

Do not know if that means there is a verdict or not. Nancy always hypes things horribly. It sounded like they had reached a verdict (the way she said it) but it just might mean they are OUT for the night!

Geeze, I can not stand that woman!

hammer

Of course! Nancy Grace mislead with her leadin. The jury is OUT of deliberations because they want to eat dinner. If there was any place else to get info right now I would never watch that woman. Shame on her Jerry Springer type of reporting!

[dreamlawyer]

Right now on Nancy Grace.....still deliberating and want dinner.

Thanks just put it on, yuck tho, Tom Scottos on with Jean C. from IS

[dreamlawyer]

I should have said yuck to Tom Scotto, not Jean, I like her a lot!

[CatBallou]

Thanks just put it on, yuck tho, Tom Scottos on with Jean C. from IS

I know you just have to suffer through Miss Rude Nancy!

[CatBallou]

I should have said yuck to Tom Scotto, not Jean, I like her a lot!

I knew you meant Tom Scotto, what a liar he is.

[Fallen Angel]

OMG the jurors REFUSE to go home

[Details]

NG just said any time now. Is she lying?It's always any minute now - it could br NOW .... OR NOW ... or a week from now.

[Fallen Angel]

they've ordered in dinner and they worked through lunch

[CatBallou]

OMG the jurors REFUSE to go home


IMO I think that means that they have perhaps agreed and now just have fill out the forms etc, and then will have a verdict.

It would seem if they were not close, that they would just give up for the night and come back to continue.

[Fallen Angel]

IMO I think that means that they have perhaps agreed and now just have fill out the forms etc, and then will have a verdict.

It would seem if they were not close, that they would just give up for the night and come back to continue.

ITA..sure would be amazing to get a verdict tonight. i have faith. i really do.

[RGG]

Don't get your shorts or panty's in an uproar, I already apologized and I don't have hate, and I have been on these boards in one phase or another for many years, since 1999, and that always happens when we are awaiting a verdict.

I have not posted much lately as I have cancer, thankfully in remission, but I get tired easy. I did not know you that is right but when someone pointed out that others thought they heard it too, I immediately said I was sorry.

Just put me on ignore and chill out!!!!:beer:

Not to worry CatBallou - I don't need the boards to follow the trial or hear the verdict. I've not seen an apology but I wish you well. There was no PM directed to me as an apology.

If you've been on the board since 1999 you should have learned computer netiquette. I've been on this board since Aug and would never have jumped on someone as you did me.

You don't need to discuss shorts/panties/chilling out/nor ignores - you've spouted enough and I leave the board in your capable experienced hands to harass someone else.

Best wishes - and g'nite (to the others) :seeya:

[cherylt]

Not to worry CatBallou - I don't need the boards to follow the trial or hear the verdict. I've not seen an apology but I wish you well. There was no PM directed to me as an apology.

If you've been on the board since 1999 you should have learned computer netiquette. I've been on this board since Aug and would never have jumped on someone as you did me.

You don't need to discuss shorts/panties/chilling out/nor ignores - you've spouted enough and I leave the board in your capable experienced hands to harass someone else.

Best wishes - and g'nite (to the others) :seeya:

HEEEEEY! Where do you think YOU'RE going? You are a regular here and I/we don't want you to leave. If there IS a verdict tonight, don't you want to share it w/ those of us you have talked to for weeks now?

:)

[Justice_Dawg]

LAS VEGAS (AP) - A court official says jurors in the O.J. Simpson case are having dinner delivered so they can keep deliberating whether the former football star and a co-defendant are guilty of robbing and kidnapping two sports memorabilia dealers at gunpoint.

Court spokesman Michael Sommermeyer says there's no indication how late the jury of 9 women and three men intend to work.

They began deliberations about 8:30 a.m. Friday, had a working lunch, and sent one note to the judge just after 3 p.m. with what Sommermeyer called a "procedural" question.

http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=9122592&nav=9qrx

------------They may stay all might!! :eek:

[sunstar]

ITA..sure would be amazing to get a verdict tonight. i have faith. i really do.

Hi Fallen Angel! :seeya: I was watching Nancy's show and heard about the dinner order and I am so hoping they'll come back with a guilty verdict on the 13th anniversary of the infamous acquittal. Wouldn't that be poetic justice? :D

[sunstar]

LAS VEGAS (AP) - A court official says jurors in the O.J. Simpson case are having dinner delivered so they can keep deliberating whether the former football star and a co-defendant are guilty of robbing and kidnapping two sports memorabilia dealers at gunpoint.

Court spokesman Michael Sommermeyer says there's no indication how late the jury of 9 women and three men intend to work.

They began deliberations about 8:30 a.m. Friday, had a working lunch, and sent one note to the judge just after 3 p.m. with what Sommermeyer called a "procedural" question.

http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=9122592&nav=9qrx

------------They may stay all might!! :eek:

Was there anything said by the judge just how late they can deliberate? I know they can come back tomorrow if they want to but I wasn't clear about tonight. :shrug:

[cherylt]

LAS VEGAS (AP) - A court official says jurors in the O.J. Simpson case are having dinner delivered so they can keep deliberating whether the former football star and a co-defendant are guilty of robbing and kidnapping two sports memorabilia dealers at gunpoint.

Court spokesman Michael Sommermeyer says there's no indication how late the jury of 9 women and three men intend to work.

They began deliberations about 8:30 a.m. Friday, had a working lunch, and sent one note to the judge just after 3 p.m. with what Sommermeyer called a "procedural" question.

http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S=9122592&nav=9qrx

------------They may stay all might!! :eek:

Thanks for the update! Hmmmm, wonder what that "procedural" question was... You'd think they would at least let us know that! Darn stingy court...:cool:

[Details]

"Procedural" could be anything - how to elect a foreman, rules for debate, or how to fill out their last "Guilty" form.

[CatS48]

Cats, A trial always gives the defense more leeway than the prosecutor - but it was introduced that OJ 'gave' these items to Gilbert, and discussions of turn over orders were all throughout, and in the closing arguments, the prosecutor got plenty of info in about the turn over and how the stuff was not his - even if that mattered.

It's frustrating - but it's how a trial has to go - and they still had more than enough to convict.

I respect your opinion. HOWEVER The judge would not allow a prosecution witness testify at all because he was to tell about the legal turnover order from the civil case. The prosecution said this person would testify in their opening statemennt. All through the trial the Judge would halt any mention about this order.

This is why I am so angry that the defense was allowed to use the words: He was just trying to recover his STOLEN property. NOTHING was STOLEN from OJ!

OJ DEFAULTED on paying storage fees, period. Items in storage are allowed to be sold if this happens*

The people who had halped him hid this stuff in storage begged OJ to pay for the storage fees. They were tired of paying out of their pockets for his stuff to be stored. He ignored their pleas. They had every right to try to sell that stuff!

*[sadly, I know this for a fact. My son passed away and I was notified of an auction date for his things like 10 days before because he did not pay the storage fee. I would not have the money for 2 weeks (had just buried him) and they said SORRY and auctioned his stuff].

[CatBallou]

Not to worry CatBallou - I don't need the boards to follow the trial or hear the verdict. I've not seen an apology but I wish you well. There was no PM directed to me as an apology.

If you've been on the board since 1999 you should have learned computer netiquette. I've been on this board since Aug and would never have jumped on someone as you did me.

You don't need to discuss shorts/panties/chilling out/nor ignores - you've spouted enough and I leave the board in your capable experienced hands to harass someone else.

Best wishes - and g'nite (to the others) :seeya:


You seem to enjoy making a mountain out of a mole hill, don't worry I don't come on here often and don't want to run you off, I don't owe you a PM as I already said I was sorry if you did not see then so be it.

You take care too and I will just shut up and observe to see if the verdict comes tonight. So don't leave on my account!

:seeya:

[NatalieB]

I've not followed the trial, but am interested in the verdict. I have to say, this is one diligent jury. I don't think I've ever known a jury to work so many hours straight thru.

[ellvarn]

*[sadly, I know this for a fact. My son passed away and I was notified of an auction date for his things like 10 days before because he did not pay the storage fee. I would not have the money for 2 weeks (had just buried him) and they said SORRY and auctioned his stuff].[/QUOTE]

I am so sorry you went through something like that.
:rose:

[Fallen Angel]

Hi Fallen Angel! :seeya: I was watching Nancy's show and heard about the dinner order and I am so hoping they'll come back with a guilty verdict on the 13th anniversary of the infamous acquittal. Wouldn't that be poetic justice? :D

that would be the greatest poetic justice of ALL time :beer:

[NatalieB]

that would be the greatest poetic justice of ALL time :beer:

I concur IF, they're coming back with guilty verdicts. NG though, ouch. Another slap in the face, IMO.

Again, I didn't follow this one closely (only highlights here and there), but I really don't care if he's guilty, I only hope he's found guilty. I know, shame on me, but oh well. For me. :punch:

[Fallen Angel]

I concur IF, they're coming back with guilty verdicts. NG though, ouch. Another slap in the face, IMO.

Again, I didn't follow this one closely (only highlights here and there), but I really don't care if he's guilty, I only hope he's found guilty. I know, shame on me, but oh well. For me. :punch:

omg erase that thought from your mind :no:

[Caje]

I've not followed the trial, but am interested in the verdict. I have to say, this is one diligent jury. I don't think I've ever known a jury to work so many hours straight thru.IIRC the Mark Jensen jury deliberated very long hours. That trial took place in Wisconsin.

[NatalieB]

omg erase that thought from your mind :no:

Trying hard. hammer Maybe this will take care of that job. lol

[Fallen Angel]

Trying hard. hammer Maybe that -hammer- will do the job. lol

oh yeah its gone lol


hey is anyone ktla live stream working?

[NatalieB]

IIRC the Mark Jensen jury deliberated very long hours. That trial took place in Wisconsin.

Well, they deserve their accolades then as well. It's truly a rarity.

[sunstar]

that would be the greatest poetic justice of ALL time :beer:

I didn't have a chance to watch the trial other than catching up at night with highlights. Do you think the jury will be able to separate the current charges from what most people believe was the wrong verdict 13 yrs. ago?

[NatalieB]

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hey is anyone ktla live stream working?

I tried loading it, and am getting nothing.

BTW: congrats on your soon to be 16,000th post.

[NatalieB]

But one thing is for sure - they don't work late if they are just going to come back hung. IMO So maybe its a good thing.

I think so too. They do have a lot to get thru. Isn't it 18 charges each (counting lessers) and 2 defendants? That would take a lot of time even if they were in total agreement.

I do think it's a sign of progress that they're not throwing in the towel.

[Fallen Angel]

I didn't have a chance to watch the trial other than catching up at night with highlights. Do you think the jury will be able to separate the current charges from what most people believe was the wrong verdict 13 yrs. ago?

if i was one of the jurors i wouldn't even think about what happen 13 yrs ago i pray they do they same so this is a fair and just verdict of GUILTY :D

[ellvarn]

But one thing is for sure - they don't work late if they are just going to come back hung. IMO So maybe its a good thing.

ITA, and that's why I am hanging in here past my medicine time and bed time, I do think they are making progress and don't want to stop in the middle of it to go home.
BTW- I am central time so it's only 8:30 here but because of health and meds I go to bed about 7:30. So I am hopeful they are going to "get er done".

[Fallen Angel]

ITA, and that's why I am hanging in here past my medicine time and bed time, I do think they are making progress and don't want to stop in the middle of it to go home.
BTW- I am central time so it's only 8:30 here but because of health and meds I go to bed about 7:30. So I am hopeful they are going to "get er done".

yep ITA. and NG or G we know they WORKED at this verdict.

[Tubesworld]

Are the defendants and lawyers still at the courthouse? I wonder when they lock the doors for the weekend?

[Fallen Angel]

Are the defendants and lawyers still at the courthouse? I wonder when they lock the doors for the weekend?

during some trial i can't remember but they said they keep security there to lock and unlock doors for as long as the jurors want to stay.

[Fallen Angel]

Greetings Everyone!! I have been off the computer since late last night. Just checked my e-mails and last one I got is from legaledge.com that -- Jury had ordered in for dinner "and wants to continue into the night" :eek: timestamped 17:32. What's up? I have so much to catch up on here!

thats all we know :beer:

[Tubesworld]

Thanks Fallen Angel. So it's up to the jury, when they are ready to go home for the evening.

[sunstar]

if i was one of the jurors i wouldn't even think about what happen 13 yrs ago i pray they do they same so this is a fair and just verdict of GUILTY :D
Maybe we'll know the answer by what the verdict is. I do think he's guilty of the charges they're deliberating on, even though the 'victims' may not be the most upstanding citizens, he still committed a crime, imo.

[ellvarn]

Flere - good to see you :seeya:

I am hoping for a verdict tonight, so I have coffee and 5 day old B-day cake if anyone needs a boost.

[tashi]

I hate to get my hopes up, but I can't imagine the jury would work through dinner unless they were close to a verdict.

They've been at it for 10 hours...

[Fallen Angel]

Hi ellvarn :seeya: I was planning a leisurely evening kicking back, nothing in particular too. Maybe ASSumptive of me but I figued Jury would review, take off for the weekend too! I have legaledge in another window and they said they would give heads up if verdict is reached and -- see the verdict live there too.

what site is that? i want to go there

[CatS48]

*[sadly, I know this for a fact. My son passed away and I was notified of an auction date for his things like 10 days before because he did not pay the storage fee. I would not have the money for 2 weeks (had just buried him) and they said SORRY and auctioned his stuff].

I am so sorry you went through something like that.
:rose:[/QUOTE]

Thanks ellvarn. It was a nightmaare at the time and to this day I wish I could have had his things to hold at least for awhile. The good part was he spent 2 mos with me before he went back to his job [thats why his stuff was in storage] and I would not trade a second of that time for all of the material things in this world. But having said that I could not believe the lack of compassion from that storage business manager. I offered to send her documentation, etc but all she said was the auction was already published. I found out about it by his landlord forwarding (eventually) his mail of the notice from my sons permanent address. I hope that $80 meant alot to them!

[palomine]

You seem to enjoy making a mountain out of a mole hill, don't worry I don't come on here often and don't want to run you off, I don't owe you a PM as I already said I was sorry if you did not see then so be it.

You take care too and I will just shut up and observe to see if the verdict comes tonight. So don't leave on my account!

:seeya:

Hey are you the same CatBallou from the Binion trial????????

[sunstar]

Hi ellvarn :seeya: I was planning a leisurely evening kicking back, nothing in particular too. Maybe ASSumptive of me but I figued Jury would review, take off for the weekend too! I have legaledge in another window and they said they would give heads up if verdict is reached and -- see the verdict live there too.

Have there been any updates since Nancy's show was on? I can't find anything online, and Fox and CNN are talking politics. :shrug:

[CatBallou]

Hey are you the same CatBallou from the Binion trial????????

That would be me! :seeya:

[Fallen Angel]

fallen angel -- http://thelegaledge.com/index.php?home

ty ty ty :beer:

[sunstar]

fallen angel -- http://thelegaledge.com/index.php?home

Thank you from me too! :D

[tashi]

fallen angel -- http://thelegaledge.com/index.php?home


Thanks flere...I've got so many windows open, I hope my computer doesn't crash. :)

[Fallen Angel]

Thanks flere...I've got so many windows open, I hope my computer doesn't crash. :)

same here. you know we MIGHT have an addiction.. but don't tell anyone ok? :lol:

[palomine]

That would be me!* :seeya:I was Peter, not sure if it was Peter123 or just Peter, back then* gosh that trial ended up badly eh!!!!

everytime I see you I think I ask the same question

[CamV]

Are the defendants and lawyers still at the courthouse? I wonder when they lock the doors for the weekend?

After the jury left yesterday, Judge Glass asked the attorneys to leave a phone number where they can be reached when the verdict comes in. I had to laugh because Galanter wanted to know exactly how much time they would have to get to the courthouse because, you know, he had to put on his suit and everything! Nothing on the local news yet.

[tashi]

same here. you know we MIGHT have an addiction.. but don't tell anyone ok? :lol:

It is kind of embarrassing...but I can't pull myself away from this computer. Glad to know I have some company in my addiction. :)

[ellvarn]

I am so mad at myself, but I have to leave y'all for the night, it's only 7:20 in Vegas, but it's 9:20 here in Arkansas and my poor old body can't hang in here any longer. I was determined to stay for the "guilty" verdict tonight - wishful thinking.

Anyway good night all and I hope we will see justice done and stop this lunatic - JMO! So please don't come down hard on me.

Have a good night :seeya:

[psbperu]

Just came in to check on jury status to find out they are still deliberating...WOW! They must be close to a verdict and want to put this away to rest.

Hope we get to see it if it happens tonite.

Thanks for the updates.

[Fallen Angel]

It is kind of embarrassing...but I can't pull myself away from this computer. Glad to know I have some company in my addiction. :)

i'm not even embarrassed lol

Kids are gone for the weekend, hubby working...i'm in bed with my laptop :D

[tashi]

If I remember right, the trial in Wisconsin where the Husband was charged and convected of killing his wife with anti-freeze, didn't they stay late the first night but still did not have a verdict for a few more days? They may feel obligated to work harder the first night? I am just guessing.

:shrug:

I think you're right...The Jensen case?

I guess the consolation prize is that they must be getting along or they'd be throwing in the towel and calling it a night.

[CatBallou]

I was Peter, not sure if it was Peter123 or just Peter, back then* gosh that trial ended up badly eh!!!!

everytime I see you I think I ask the same question

LOL! Well yes that ended bad but those were the good ol' days on the messages boards.

I don't hardly see the Binion posters, or they have changes their nicks to protect the innocent. :lol:

[psbperu]

LOL! Well yes that ended bad but those were the good ol' days on the messages boards.

I don't hardly see the Binion posters, or they have changes their nicks to protect the innocent. :lol:


Rarely see anyone from "the good ole days" of open threads. Was a format I loved.

Do you remember: Loveday, Gardenwoman, Leslie, Courtjester, Swats (who could forget him), Ouch, etc.? Just to name a few.

Good to see you.

[Tubesworld]

Galanter reminded the jury of a surreptitious recording of police investigators in the hotel room after the incident. "They're making jokes. They're saying things like, 'We're gonna get him,'" he said. This from th KC Star newspaper. Who recorded this, anyone know?

[CatBallou]

Rarely see anyone from "the good ole days" of open threads. Was a format I loved.

Do you remember: Loveday, Gardenwoman, Leslie, Courtjester, Swats (who could forget him), Ouch, etc.? Just to name a few.

Good to see you.

Yes I remember! Who could forget don and minnie/mitzi, and hoobar. :seeya: