Friday, 10/3/08 - Day 109

[n/t]

Morning all

Thursday, Casey's attorney said it's not in her best interest to tell what she knows about where Caylee is.

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html


This sounds like he's admitting her guilt. Any thoughts?

[Kathlb]

Good Morning and thanks for the Friday thread. I can't believe I'm first, that's a first. :punch: (That's me to me) :-)

Per your post... I still can't believe he said that. Unless I am missing it entirely, to me that means that she has much to hide and he just admitted it. :shrug: I feel an arrest is coming soon, everyone seems to be moving toward that in my mind. And it can't come soon enough for me. MOO

Caylee, we love you. :rose:

[GrannyB]

Hope I got the # of days right. Good Morning!!:seeya:



I really don't want you hating me but ahhh it's day 109. Why me:confused:

[KKKKKKatie]

Morning all

Thursday, Casey's attorney said it's not in her best interest to tell what she knows about where Caylee is.

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html


This sounds like he's admitting her guilt. Any thoughts?

Morning n/t :seeya:

Is a really odd thing for an attorney to say especially before there are any charges that that can "put her away for life" IMO

[oldbluesmith]

Morning all

Thursday, Casey's attorney said it's not in her best interest to tell what she knows about where Caylee is.

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html


This sounds like he's admitting her guilt. Any thoughts?Good Morning n/t and all, Her atty just admitted she has increminating evidence to hide, et al guilty of whatever the charges may be. JMHO

[GrannyB]

Morning n/t :seeya:

Is a really odd thing for an attorney to say especially before there are any charges that that can "put her away for life" IMO



This whole case is odd. Her lawyer fits right in.

[KKKKKKatie]

This whole case is odd. Her lawyer fits right in.

LOL Ain't that the truth!

[GrannyB]

I'm never a hater. :rose:



LOL I know you're not. And thanks for the coffee. I need it.:D

[n/t]

This whole case is odd. Her lawyer fits right in.
I totally agree. I wonder how any of them sleep at night.

Baez knows exactly what happened to little Caylee.

[n/t]

Morning n/t :seeya:

Is a really odd thing for an attorney to say especially before there are any charges that that can "put her away for life" IMO
Morning :)

Maybe he knows the inevitable will happen soon. Is that his defense? If we don't tell you what happened to Caylee then Casey won't be put away for life? It's ridiculous!

[GrannyB]

I totally agree. I wonder how any of them sleep at night.

Baez knows exactly what happened to little Caylee.



Maybe he wants off the case. If he's court appointed that statement ought to do it for him. Or if someone is paying him and he wants off same thing. That statement should do it for him.,

[KKKKKKatie]

Am I correct in saying that there have been no more protesters at the Anthony house? If so, I wonder if that last altercation with Cindy scared them all away?

[KKKKKKatie]

Morning :)

Maybe he knows the inevitable will happen soon. Is that his defense? If we don't tell you what happened to Caylee then Casey won't be put away for life? It's ridiculous!

Most, if not all, of what Baez has done makes little sense to me. I know he is following the "defense attorney" party line but why would you even address charges that haven't been filed IMO Just is so odd to me

[Kathlb]

Most, if not all, of what Baez has done makes little sense to me. I know he is following the "defense attorney" party line but why would you even address charges that haven't been filed IMO Just is so odd to me

Perry Mason he's not. ROFL I am shocked and I really can't believe he is dumb enough to say that, so he must have ulterior motives such as wanting an offer from the LE again or wanting off the case as has been mentioned. I'm just soooo glad he's on her side!! :eek: jmho

[n/t]

Am I correct in saying that there have been no more protesters at the Anthony house? If so, I wonder if that last altercation with Cindy scared them all away?


Which one? The baseball bat? lol

I think people are still so disgusted with all of them but frankly, I don't know what any protesting would do except innocent people perhaps getting hurt and/or protestors getting arrested.

We just have to continue to hope that justice will be done and she will be put away for life and/or face the death penalty.

[KKKKKKatie]

Perry Mason he's not. ROFL I am shocked and I really can't believe he is dumb enough to say that, so he must have ulterior motives such as wanting an offer from the LE again or wanting off the case as has been mentioned. I'm just soooo glad he's on her side!! :eek: jmho
Maybe you and Granny are correct. I hadn't thought about him maybe wanting off the case.....could be. I would imagine that Casey is a pain in the a$$ to work with IMO

[KKKKKKatie]

Which one? The baseball bat? lol

I think people are still so disgusted with all of them but frankly, I don't know what any protesting would do except innocent people perhaps getting hurt and/or protestors getting arrested.

We just have to continue to hope that justice will be done and she will be put away for life and/or face the death penalty.

LOL I was thinking about the lady that had her som with her that got hurt. And I agree...the protesters are just a horrible accident waiting to happen. I am just surprised that they have have gone away

[ilovemylife]

Good morning everyone!:seeya:

For Caylee :rose:

[WinnieLeigh7]

Morning all

Thursday, Casey's attorney said it's not in her best interest to tell what she knows about where Caylee is.

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html


This sounds like he's admitting her guilt. Any thoughts?


gee, ya think
he's a wise one isn't he, where is it that he attended law school again...
gotsta be harvard, he's a smart one i tell ya

seriously, even a squirrel brain knows the girl is guilty...
squirrel brain...get it...haha

:seeya: morning all

[Kathlb]

I was thinking this morning (dangerous sometimes) :D Remember the lady who picked up the Anthony's garbage and went through it? There was a cap in there that had been torn or cut up. Wonder if it was the one she wore when doing her evil deed and it has decomp on it? We haven't heard another word from that lady and she was going to put that info on the web of what all she found. Maybe LE swooped in and got it. MOO

[GrannyB]

I was surprised to see some out on the sidewalk out front last Sunday night during the vigil. Did the Guardian Angels leave, who had come down to protect the neighborhood?



I have both threads open. Are we staying here. Ilovemylife just got to the other one.:)

[n/t]

gee, ya think
he's a wise one isn't he, where is it that he attended law school again...
gotsta be harvard, he's a smart one i tell ya

seriously, even a squirrel brain knows the girl is guilty...
squirrel brain...get it...haha

:seeya: morning all


Maybe Dr. K gave him a wake up call.

[GrannyB]

I was thinking this morning (dangerous sometimes) :D Remember the lady who picked up the Anthony's garbage and went through it? There was a cap in there that had been torn or cut up. Wonder if it was the one she wore when doing her evil deed and it has decomp on it? We haven't heard another word from that lady and she was going to put that info on the web of what all she found. Maybe LE swooped in and got it. MOO

I had forgotton about her. Surely the Anthony's wouldn't have thrown out anything right at their house. Then again it is the Anthony's

[WinnieLeigh7]

I totally agree. I wonder how any of them sleep at night.

Baez knows exactly what happened to little Caylee.

that's what i don't understand, i've never understood.

sure he knows, he has to know

this guy obviously isn't a father.

i work for an attorney, and thank goodness he has morals...
casey would have been dismissed at first glance as a client.

believe me, i understand doing your 'job' and i understand the 'legals' of confidentiality, and the legal ethics---i get that.

but no job would have me sacrificing my personal ethics, morals, values...to save a low life mother who killed her precious child.

i couldn't sleep at night, i couldn't live with myself.

i'd turn over my law license, sign up on the prosecution side and at least know i lost my career for doing what was right...
and that my justice was truly served as the voice for the REAL innocent

:rose: Caylee

[n/t]

I was thinking this morning (dangerous sometimes) :D Remember the lady who picked up the Anthony's garbage and went through it? There was a cap in there that had been torn or cut up. Wonder if it was the one she wore when doing her evil deed and it has decomp on it? We haven't heard another word from that lady and she was going to put that info on the web of what all she found. Maybe LE swooped in and got it. MOO

LOL happens to me sometimes too.

Who knows...maybe there was other stuff in there that we weren't privy to. IIRC, she also found notes. The cap being torn like that was really bizarre, wasn't it? It looked like it was cut with scissors, imo.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Maybe he wants off the case. If he's court appointed that statement ought to do it for him. Or if someone is paying him and he wants off same thing. That statement should do it for him.,

if casey has told him the truth, it's my belief that he's bound to ask for a dismissal...

because he's stuck between the legal aspect of staying quiet for client confidentiality...
and the legal aspect of withholding information on an ongoing case.

don't quote me, b/c i'm not 100 percent sure...
but i think at that point, he has to ask for a dismissal and let another attorney take over



can anyone clarify that

[Kathlb]

This all seems strange. This stupid comment from Baez and the other night on NG Kobe wasn't as gung ho for the def. as he had been since he's hired by them. Rats leaving a sinking ship??? They may know something we don't about what LE found or has. jmho

[WinnieLeigh7]

I was thinking this morning (dangerous sometimes) :D Remember the lady who picked up the Anthony's garbage and went through it? There was a cap in there that had been torn or cut up. Wonder if it was the one she wore when doing her evil deed and it has decomp on it? We haven't heard another word from that lady and she was going to put that info on the web of what all she found. Maybe LE swooped in and got it. MOO

and remember it was also the same cap...or same looking cap, as annie was wearing in a picture

annie, a girl yet to be heard from and speculated her 'interview' may be being held until the murder charges...

[BJames]

Good morning to all :)

I have debated with myself about sharing some experience I have had here, and I finally decided to do so....it is personal experience and not 'text book'.
For anyone considering the theory that Caylee drowned?
My experience was with a 2 year old female...twenty years ago this month. When a person is drowning their body takes in less and less water as oxygen deprivation sets it, at that point the lungs begin to break down into dead cells and are 'washed out' of the body. As the body starts rejecting further fluid it expells the cells that have 'died' as the organs start shutting down, be they kidneys, lungs etc.
My reason for 'sharing' this?
If indeed Caylee did drown there is a very good chance that the dead cells from her body shutting down would create not only a smell (eventually), but her body itself would begin to break down very quickly.
I am not saying that this is indeed what happened to this little girl, I am explaining the process that could have/most likely did happen if this scenerio is fact.

Just my opinion of course...

[Lynden1000]

Am I correct in saying that there have been no more protesters at the Anthony house? If so, I wonder if that last altercation with Cindy scared them all away?

I don't know about the protesters, but locally the interest in this case has started to wane. It no longer occupies the front page of every newspaper and it's not the top story every night on the news. Some nights there is no mention of it at all. Overall, the community has just grown weary and, I hate to say it, bored.

Maybe that's a good thing. The absence of public spectacle might allow LE to do their jobs without cameras and constant distractions.

[WinnieLeigh7]

i don't know that anyone's bored...

maybe highly frustrated

imo it's pretty apparent that caylee is no longer here with us, on earth and it's due to her mother's hands.

it's frustrating to know that she's out there somewhere...
and casey's sitting in her home soaking up the attention, loving it as if she's a star.

even i have to turn my head sometimes for sanity reasons...
i get so angry some days, it effects me, personally...

i couldn't even imagine being local, like it's right there in my backyard so to say, and so helpless as not to bring forth the answers, not to see justice....

don't get me wrong, i stand behind the le the whole way...
and i prefer to be patient and know they have a solid case. i don't want them 'rushing' anything and missing something.

nevertheless, it's still frustrating, ya know...

[n/t]

I don't know about the protesters, but locally the interest in this case has started to wane. It no longer occupies the front page of every newspaper and it's not the top story every night on the news. Some nights there is no mention of it at all. Overall, the community has just grown weary and, I hate to say it, bored.

Maybe that's a good thing. The absence of public spectacle might allow LE to do their jobs without cameras and constant distractions.There is only so much of Casey being driven to her attorney's office or the jail to meet with her case manager a person can take.

Without any new developments, the media moves on to other stories. Hopefully something will break in this case real soon and gets put back on the front pages. Caylee needs to be found and the person responsible should be in jail.

I totally agree that this is a great opportunity for LE to continue their searches for Caylee without the media following their every move.

[babblefishie]

This all seems strange. This stupid comment from Baez and the other night on NG Kobe wasn't as gung ho for the def. as he had been since he's hired by them. Rats leaving a sinking ship??? They may know something we don't about what LE found or has. jmho

;) Perfect way to describe it -- rats leaving sinking ship...

I think the DNA tells a gruesome story of Caylee being alive in the trunk before she died (could be vomit, urine -- sorry to go there) and perhaps her hair banding indicicates multiple druggings over the course of her young life.

I agree the winds have shifted and the rats smell it. I think latest information has disgusted even her most staunch defenders. And these guys are on the pay roll so that's pretty bad....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[SavannahStar]

that's what i don't understand, i've never understood.

sure he knows, he has to know

this guy obviously isn't a father.

i work for an attorney, and thank goodness he has morals...
casey would have been dismissed at first glance as a client.

believe me, i understand doing your 'job' and i understand the 'legals' of confidentiality, and the legal ethics---i get that.

but no job would have me sacrificing my personal ethics, morals, values...to save a low life mother who killed her precious child.

i couldn't sleep at night, i couldn't live with myself.

i'd turn over my law license, sign up on the prosecution side and at least know i lost my career for doing what was right...
and that my justice was truly served as the voice for the REAL innocent

:rose: Caylee

At the outset let me say that I also believe Casey killed Caylee. But I'm curious if you mean that you believe she (or others who have killed children) should not have attorneys at all? :eek:

[BJames]

Good morning to all

I have debated with myself about sharing some experience I have had here, and I finally decided to do so....it is personal experience and not 'text book'.
For anyone considering the theory that Caylee drowned?
My experience was with a 2 year old female...twenty years ago this month. When a person is drowning their body takes in less and less water as oxygen deprivation sets it, at that point the lungs begin to break down into dead cells and are 'washed out' of the body. As the body starts rejecting further fluid it expells the cells that have 'died' as the organs start shutting down, be they kidneys, lungs etc.
My reason for 'sharing' this?
If indeed Caylee did drown there is a very good chance that the dead cells from her body shutting down would create not only a smell (eventually), but her body itself would begin to break down very quickly.
I am not saying that this is indeed what happened to this little girl, I am explaining the process that could have/most likely did happen if this scenerio is fact.

Just my opinion of course...

I copied this from the other thread, I am not going to post it again.
Thanks

[KKKKKKatie]

At the outset let me say that I also believe Casey killed Caylee. But I'm curious if you mean that you believe she (or others who have killed children) should not have attorneys at all? :eek:

That is not what I got from her post at all :shrug:

[WinnieLeigh7]

At the outset let me say that I also believe Casey killed Caylee. But I'm curious if you mean that you believe she (or others who have killed children) should not have attorneys at all? :eek:

lol

well that's what an attorney, primarly a defense attorney, would use for an excuse...
'they deserve' attorney's too

and no, that's not what i'm saying exactly.
granted, personally, no, i don't want them to have attorney's, i don't want them to live their life in jail, i want them to suffer the same fate they brought their lil' children.

but really what i was saying is that i personally...i couldn't defend 'em.
but that's why i never made it to law school lol

[n/t]

Good morning to all

I have debated with myself about sharing some experience I have had here, and I finally decided to do so....it is personal experience and not 'text book'.
For anyone considering the theory that Caylee drowned?
My experience was with a 2 year old female...twenty years ago this month. When a person is drowning their body takes in less and less water as oxygen deprivation sets it, at that point the lungs begin to break down into dead cells and are 'washed out' of the body. As the body starts rejecting further fluid it expells the cells that have 'died' as the organs start shutting down, be they kidneys, lungs etc.
My reason for 'sharing' this?
If indeed Caylee did drown there is a very good chance that the dead cells from her body shutting down would create not only a smell (eventually), but her body itself would begin to break down very quickly.
I am not saying that this is indeed what happened to this little girl, I am explaining the process that could have/most likely did happen if this scenerio is fact.

Just my opinion of course...

I copied this from the other thread, I am not going to post it again.
Thanks

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. IMO, any COD theory shouldn't be dismissed.

[ilovemylife]

For anyone who has not heard about the 2 new areas they are searching.


http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html

Cadaver Dogs Used To Search Wooded Areas For Caylee Anthony

[ilovemylife]

I believe I was on the wrong thread all morning :shrug:

[WinnieLeigh7]

what i don't understand about the drowning theory though is we think, le seems to think...

whatever happened, happened on the 16th

that's the day, george anthony reported her leaving the house '10 minutes til 1'

how long was he at the house after that...

evidence shows her at blockbuster around 8 that night...

so with that, we can conclude whatever happened, happened between 1-8pm on the 16th.

at what times were the home vacant that this could have occurred

and has the location of the 'pings' from the 'flurry' of calls this day been released

[WinnieLeigh7]

I believe I was on the wrong thread all morning :shrug:


i think there are two...

hopefully CW will merge them together

[warrkat]

Good morning, everyone.

I have good news this morning. Last week, I had a follow-up CT scan and PET scan to compare with the original ones when I started my chemo. I'M CLEAR! Don't have to go back to the doctor until January.
These last few weeks, especially, have been very hard. I tolerated the treatment pretty well, but was very tired almost all of the time. This morning, I feel ready to "lick" the world.

So, with all this energy, maybe I'd better head for Orlando, and organize a search for a precious little girl. Anyone else want to go? Fair warning...... you won't be able to keep up with me.

:rose: We love you, precious child.

[WinnieLeigh7]

congrads warrkat

[k_can004]

For anyone who has not heard about the 2 new areas they are searching.


http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html

Cadaver Dogs Used To Search Wooded Areas For Caylee Anthony

Is this the same wooded area a woman "saw" someone fitting Casey's description, walking out of?

[babblefishie]

Good morning, everyone.

I have good news this morning. Last week, I had a follow-up CT scan and PET scan to compare with the original ones when I started my chemo. I'M CLEAR! Don't have to go back to the doctor until January.
These last few weeks, especially, have been very hard. I tolerated the treatment pretty well, but was very tired almost all of the time. This morning, I feel ready to "lick" the world.

So, with all this energy, maybe I'd better head for Orlando, and organize a search for a precious little girl. Anyone else want to go? Fair warning...... you won't be able to keep up with me.

:rose: We love you, precious child.

Congratulations on your fantastic news warrkat!
:)

[ilovemylife]

:)Awesome news warrkat

[SavannahStar]

lol

well that's what an attorney, primarly a defense attorney, would use for an excuse...
'they deserve' attorney's too

and no, that's not what i'm saying exactly.
granted, personally, no, i don't want them to have attorney's, i don't want them to live their life in jail, i want them to suffer the same fate they brought their lil' children.

but really what i was saying is that i personally...i couldn't defend 'em.
but that's why i never made it to law school lol

Thank you for the elaboration, I can understand that. Sorta. :)

I still see, "personally, no, I don't want them to have attorney's"....and then, but "really" what you were saying is you couldn't defend them.

Well, I DO understand how people can feel that way. I guess. Sorta. I love our justice system the way it is. Mistakes are made (look at the Innocence Project, and ALSO look at some murderers who get off scott-free.....but, we have the best justice system in the world, despite that. :patriot: Forgive me for feeling patriotic. Those debates do it to me.)

[SavannahStar]

Good morning, everyone.

I have good news this morning. Last week, I had a follow-up CT scan and PET scan to compare with the original ones when I started my chemo. I'M CLEAR! Don't have to go back to the doctor until January.
These last few weeks, especially, have been very hard. I tolerated the treatment pretty well, but was very tired almost all of the time. This morning, I feel ready to "lick" the world.

So, with all this energy, maybe I'd better head for Orlando, and organize a search for a precious little girl. Anyone else want to go? Fair warning...... you won't be able to keep up with me.

:rose: We love you, precious child.

Wow. Congrats, warrkat. I am so happy for you! :rose:

[WinnieLeigh7]

sorry to be graphic

but does anyone know how long the body would let off these gases that the dogs hit on

i mean, if the body has decomposed...

and let's say nothing but skeletonal remains are left...

could they still hit on that

[VII]

I totally agree. I wonder how any of them sleep at night.

Baez knows exactly what happened to little Caylee.


MAYbeee, she has rejected every consideration he has presented to her as to how to get a lighter sentence and he is SICK of her sitting around the office all the time. MAYbe, being bound by atty/client priveledge, this is a "backdoor" way of getting this thing going.
but then again
MAYbe, he's "backdooring" prosecution by having them to rush right on in with that statement, arrest her, he THINKS he can get her off on "not enough circumstantial evidence" and case closed?
:shrug:
yep,
weird

[lchal2002]

I have been following this case pretty much from the beginning, but I sure don't remember hearing about her. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks!:seeya:

[WinnieLeigh7]

Thank you for the elaboration, I can understand that. Sorta. :)

I still see, "personally, no, I don't want them to have attorney's"....and then, but "really" what you were saying is you couldn't defend them.

Well, I DO understand how people can feel that way. I guess. Sorta. I love our justice system the way it is. Mistakes are made (look at the Innocence Project, and ALSO look at some murderers who get off scott-free.....but, we have the best justice system in the world, despite that. :patriot: Forgive me for feeling patriotic. Those debates do it to me.)



i support our justice system too, don't get me wrong...
and i went to school to be a part of the justice system, and as mentioned, i currently work in the legal field.

i'm not 'downing' the justice system in anyway, and i understand everyone's 'right to an attorney' also...

i was just placing that aside and speaking on a personal level...
that i personally couldn't do it.

sure there are cases of the innocent being found guilty, although i don't think you'll see that as often anymore because of advancements in technology, dna testing, etc.

but sure, there are currently people doing time that are innocent...

but when you have a case like this, for example...
the simple lil' fact that this ''mother'' didn't even report her child missing for 31 days, heck that's enough to do me in...personally.

adding the lies, seeing the smiles, listening to the giggles, looking at the photos...
well, that just puts the icing on the cake.

throw in the fornesics...oh yea, i'm so beyond anything casey anthony has to say as for 'why' and 'defense'

[ilovemylife]

I just can't wrap my mind around how they can be in the same house with her. I mean, if they know Caylee is gone and they're protecting Casey...which is appears that's what is going on. HOW? HOW? HOW? All I'd be doing is imagining what poor little Caylee may have went thru and how I'd never see her again. I think I'd break and just say "Take Her To JAIL!!!!" I don't think I'd be able to look at her each day. Watch her go on as if everything's fine. Knowing she was able to live her life as if she never had a daughter for an entire month. How does one do that?hammer

[WinnieLeigh7]

I have been following this case pretty much from the beginning, but I sure don't remember hearing about her. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks!:seeya:


''bestfriend'' of casey


bestfriend in quotes, b/c i see everyone listed as that, but i'm not convinced casey could have a 'bestfriend' b/c she couldn't be a bestfriend...


by definition

[Mairi II]

Good morning to all

I have debated with myself about sharing some experience I have had here, and I finally decided to do so....it is personal experience and not 'text book'.
For anyone considering the theory that Caylee drowned?
My experience was with a 2 year old female...twenty years ago this month. When a person is drowning their body takes in less and less water as oxygen deprivation sets it, at that point the lungs begin to break down into dead cells and are 'washed out' of the body. As the body starts rejecting further fluid it expells the cells that have 'died' as the organs start shutting down, be they kidneys, lungs etc.
My reason for 'sharing' this?
If indeed Caylee did drown there is a very good chance that the dead cells from her body shutting down would create not only a smell (eventually), but her body itself would begin to break down very quickly.
I am not saying that this is indeed what happened to this little girl, I am explaining the process that could have/most likely did happen if this scenerio is fact.

Just my opinion of course...

I copied this from the other thread, I am not going to post it again.
Thanks

Now that you bring this up, hmmmmmm.... it got me thinking. Cadaver dogs can detect the dead cells on the surface of the water. But if they weren't brought up the ladder, etc., I don't know that they would've detected decomp on the above-ground pool from the ground. Interestesting. Thanks for sharing.

[msgatorslayer]

G'morning, all.

I think Baez may be making those bizarre statements in an attempt to get LE's interest peeked and hoping that they will offer a plea deal, again.

Who knows whats been going on behind closed doors within the family. Tensions may be getting very high. Maybe reality has finally sunk in!

Just a thought.

[ilovemylife]

G'morning, all.

I think Baez may be making those bizarre statements in an attempt to get LE's interest peeked and hoping that they will offer a plea deal, again.

Who knows whats been going on behind closed doors within the family. Tensions may be getting very high. Maybe reality has finally sunk in!

Just a thought.

IDK, just yesterday on the Find Caylee Anthony Myspace that's run by the family they posted a bulletin asking everyone to post bulletins with Caylees pic/ fliers, and info so that she can be brought home.

They put their mood as optimistic.

[SavannahStar]

i support our justice system too, don't get me wrong...
and i went to school to be a part of the justice system, and as mentioned, i currently work in the legal field.

i'm not 'downing' the justice system in anyway, and i understand everyone's 'right to an attorney' also...

i was just placing that aside and speaking on a personal level...
that i personally couldn't do it.

sure there are cases of the innocent being found guilty, although i don't think you'll see that as often anymore because of advancements in technology, dna testing, etc.

but sure, there are currently people doing time that are innocent...

but when you have a case like this, for example...
the simple lil' fact that this ''mother'' didn't even report her child missing for 31 days, heck that's enough to do me in...personally.

adding the lies, seeing the smiles, listening to the giggles, looking at the photos...
well, that just puts the icing on the cake.

throw in the fornesics...oh yea, i'm so beyond anything casey anthony has to say as for 'why' and 'defense'

Your response is very well stated! :beer:

[WinnieLeigh7]

Actually, Baez is a father.

But just like some of us have a job and have to separate that from our other roles in life, he has to do the same as a Defense Attorney.

The conclusions that are jumped to on this board are ridiculous, because Baez has in no way stated or even hinted that he knows where Caylee is.

---fingers in ears, singing lalalala---

just like the conclusion you jumped to in misreading what i said before asking for clarafication or reading further to actually see it.

i was speaking on a personal....what's in me....level.

that i couldn't choose my job over my 'real life' values in this type situation.

i know very well what he's doing is his job and i ''get that''

but again, i personally couldn't do it. but then that's why i'm not a defense attorney.
he is, there are many out there that are...good for them, it's a needed field to complete our justice system.

as for his statement, it did in fact, at least state that his client has that knowledge...therefore following the chain, he represents casey, who has that knowledge...
as he stated in the link provided.


i'm not going to argue with you, i don't come here to argue...as i find that completely ''ridiculous''.
i understand from your post-s- that you have different views from others here...i see that you like to play devil's advocate
i can actually respect that.

but please, don't come on here being disrespectful to me, or others because they don't see it ''your way'', offering nothing but negative and insulting statements.

i apologize in advance for the 'bluntness', but i've bitten my tongue so much that dang it, i'm nearly tongueless now...

NOW with that said....i'm off to ''my job''

:seeya: see ya

[msgatorslayer]

IDK, just yesterday on the Find Caylee Anthony Myspace that's run by the family they posted a bulletin asking everyone to post bulletins with Caylees pic/ fliers, and info so that she can be brought home.

They put their mood as optimistic.

:rolleyes: Okay, they're still in fanstasy land. Maybe Baez wants off the case. He's gotten his 15 mins and knows big charges are in the works. Ones that, IMO, he's not capable of handling.

Great news, Warrkat!:rose:

[marshmallow]

I wonder how Cindy/George took Baez's comments to the press.

I do think he's had an inkling of Casey's involvement. At least I'd hope so, it would be difficult to defend her otherwise. The things he's said since he took the job make me believe that he does know some, not all, of this story.

I too am glad the protesters eased up. I think they only resurfaces with gusto when the vigil was held because it was publicized.

[Regina.Lampert]

Good morning everyone. Congratulations War, wonderful news for you.

I'm really not suprised by baez's new statements, remember in the
beginning of this case baez wrote a letter to the AG suggesting that casey anthony would cooperate with LE and tell what she knew, and in exchange the AG offered limited immunity. Baez has always been aware that casey anthony knows something about the disappearance of Caylee.

[VII]

I just can't wrap my mind around how they can be in the same house with her. I mean, if they know Caylee is gone and they're protecting Casey...which is appears that's what is going on. HOW? HOW? HOW? All I'd be doing is imagining what poor little Caylee may have went thru and how I'd never see her again. I think I'd break and just say "Take Her To JAIL!!!!" I don't think I'd be able to look at her each day. Watch her go on as if everything's fine. Knowing she was able to live her life as if she never had a daughter for an entire month. How does one do that?hammer

and LE would do the same thing they are doing now ...
they can't call LE and say "take her to JAIL"
unless
they wanna say she told them what happened?

They won't take her to jail until they feel they have enuff evidence to KEEP her there w/o confession.

I hear ya, though......

omo

[VII]

:rolleyes: Okay, they're still in fanstasy land. Maybe Baez wants off the case. He's gotten his 15 mins and knows big charges are in the works. Ones that, IMO, he's not capable of handling.

Great news, Warrkat!:rose:

Time to step down...
btw, if he were to step down, and let's sayyyy
Casey had told him more than what has been revealed to LE
then
he would con't to be covered in atty/client priveledge?

[FrankieBones1]

Morning all

Thursday, Casey's attorney said it's not in her best interest to tell what she knows about where Caylee is.

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html


This sounds like he's admitting her guilt. Any thoughts?
Sounds like he doesn't think before he opens his mouth.

Good morning, NT and all!

[bluwaters]

At the outset let me say that I also believe Casey killed Caylee. But I'm curious if you mean that you believe she (or others who have killed children) should not have attorneys at all? :eek:

Here's my problem with the role of the defense attorney.
I strongly believe in every accused person's right to a fair trial and competent counsel.
That said, is protecting the rights of the accused the same as trying to have the accused's found not guilty?
Isn't the purpose of the trial to find the truth?
If the accused is guilty, and has been found guilty by trial, hasn't the defense done its job if none of the accused rights were violated?
Is it the defense attorney's job to see to it that their client is found not guilty, even when their client is in fact guilty?
Being idealistic, I believe that if due process is properly carried out, under the watchful protection of the defense attorney, then the attorney has defended the guilty client very well.

I don't know if I am making any sense. I need to wake up and drink another cup of coffee. I guess what I am saying is that, under our constitution, we are guaranteed a fair hearing when charged with a crime. The process may be slow and frustrating, but it is important.
The lynch mob mentality should not prevail. We strive to be above that kind of brutality. The innocent should not be punished for crimes that they did not commit. The guilty have a presumption of innocence until found guilty, and the defense attorney's job is to hold the prosecution to proving the guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Surely that does not equate to trying to obstruct the court in its efforts to find the truth?

I believe that Casey Anthony is guilty of murdering her daughter.

[bluwaters]

Please light a Candle for Caylee

click any unlit candle to begin

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

:rose:

[msgatorslayer]

Time to step down...
btw, if he were to step down, and let's sayyyy
Casey had told him more than what has been revealed to LE
then
he would con't to be covered in atty/client priveledge?

Oh yeah, he'd have to keep his mouth shut.

[GIGI4256]

I just can't wrap my mind around how they can be in the same house with her. I mean, if they know Caylee is gone and they're protecting Casey...which is appears that's what is going on. HOW? HOW? HOW? All I'd be doing is imagining what poor little Caylee may have went thru and how I'd never see her again. I think I'd break and just say "Take Her To JAIL!!!!" I don't think I'd be able to look at her each day. Watch her go on as if everything's fine. Knowing she was able to live her life as if she never had a daughter for an entire month. How does one do that?hammer

IMO, the only way they can stay in the house with her, look at her, feed her, and support her is because they are just like her. Cold hearted. Obviously they do not care what happened to Caylee. She is forgotten in their minds. If, by some miracle, Caylee is alive and somewhere, I hope the Anthonys never find her. She deserves a better family than them. Again JMO

[Amy]

Morning all

Thursday, Casey's attorney said it's not in her best interest to tell what she knows about where Caylee is.

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html


This sounds like he's admitting her guilt. Any thoughts?

So, that sounds pretty official that looking for Caylee, dead or alive--and this sure doesn't sound like "alive"--- isn't what the A's, or least specifically Casey, have on their agenda.

[msgatorslayer]

IMO, the only way they can stay in the house with her, look at her, feed her, and support her is because they are just like her. Cold hearted. Obviously they do not care what happened to Caylee. She is forgotten in their minds. If, by some miracle, Caylee is alive and somewhere, I hope the Anthonys never find her. She deserves a better family than them. Again JMO

The shrink on NG lastnight explained, in clinical terms, how Cindy could be brainwashed by Casey. It kinda made sense. That Casey has manipulated Cindy into her web of lies.

George is the one that I don't understand. He told LE that things weren't right. He knows that Casey isn't telling the truth and she's hiding things.

I can't understand how he still remains in that house.

[marshmallow]

IMO, the only way they can stay in the house with her, look at her, feed her, and support her is because they are just like her. Cold hearted. Obviously they do not care what happened to Caylee. She is forgotten in their minds. If, by some miracle, Caylee is alive and somewhere, I hope the Anthonys never find her. She deserves a better family than them. Again JMO



after seeing the photos of Caylee with her grandparents I can't agree they're cold hearted. Desperate, confused, torn...yes. Cold hearted...no because the love they had for that child was apparent on their faces in the photos.

[VII]

The shrink on NG lastnight explained, in clinical terms, how Cindy could be brainwashed by Casey. It kinda made sense. That Casey has manipulated Cindy into her web of lies.

George is the one that I don't understand. He told LE that things weren't right. He knows that Casey isn't telling the truth and she's hiding things.

I can't understand how he still remains in that house.

agree
out of desparation and denial, they are not able to ACCEPT that their baby is gone at the hands of their daughter.
I don't have sympathy for them
but I do
empathize

unimaginable

[crymeariver2006]

Good morning everyone. Congratulations War, wonderful news for you.

I'm really not suprised by baez's new statements, remember in the
beginning of this case baez wrote a letter to the AG suggesting that casey anthony would cooperate with LE and tell what she knew, and in exchange the AG offered limited immunity. Baez has always been aware that casey anthony knows something about the disappearance of Caylee.


Thanks for the reminder! HE asked for a deal, what he got in response was the offer of limited immunity.

Then he denied that the offer even existed. Once the state released THEIR emails in response to his, he's never mentioned it again.

And yes, I believe Baez has known for some time what happened to Caylee and who is responsible.

[GIGI4256]

Ok, how is it not in Casey's best interest to tell LE what she knows about Caylee's whereabouts? What about Caylee's best interest? Have they forgotten about her and are now just focusing on Casey? :flamemad:

[Amy]

that's what i don't understand, i've never understood.

sure he knows, he has to know

this guy obviously isn't a father.

i work for an attorney, and thank goodness he has morals...
casey would have been dismissed at first glance as a client.

believe me, i understand doing your 'job' and i understand the 'legals' of confidentiality, and the legal ethics---i get that.

but no job would have me sacrificing my personal ethics, morals, values...to save a low life mother who killed her precious child.

i couldn't sleep at night, i couldn't live with myself.

i'd turn over my law license, sign up on the prosecution side and at least know i lost my career for doing what was right...
and that my justice was truly served as the voice for the REAL innocent

:rose: Caylee


IIRC, he was court appointed. They don't get the choice of dismissing their client. They have to come up with things like conflict of interest and that doesn't include conflict of morals. After all, they are DEFENSE attorneys. They defend whether the person is actually innocent or guilty. All of their clients--@ least the guilty ones--are a little low on morals, ethics and values, else they wouldn't be committing crimes.

Sometimes the defense attorney's job really is just to get the lightest sentence possible, as some clients are obviously guilty from the get-go.

[VII]

Ok, how is it not in Casey's best interest to tell LE what she knows about Caylee's whereabouts? What about Caylee's best interest? Have they forgotten about her and are now just focusing on Casey? :flamemad:

seems to me
"in the best interest of Caylee"
will come into play BIG time on the neglect charge

[KimD]

Actually, Baez is a father.

The conclusions that are jumped to on this board are ridiculous, because Baez has in no way stated or even hinted that he knows where Caylee is.

Maybe not, but he sure has insinuated that his client does :o .

[crymeariver2006]

Time to step down...
btw, if he were to step down, and let's sayyyy
Casey had told him more than what has been revealed to LE
then
he would con't to be covered in atty/client priveledge?

He's covered unless he knows the location of the body. That means he is guilty of covering up an ongoing crime (the hiding of the body).

IF he knows the location of the body, he must step aside and new counsel must be obtained for Casey. If he doesn't step aside with that knowledge, he is facing serious ethics charges.

At least that's the way it was explained by the defense attornyes on NG. She asked that same question two nights in a row and got the same answer both nights.

[msgatorslayer]

I'm expecting something to be dumped today in the case. It's Friday, lol. But my BFF will be here all weekend so I'll have to take sneak-peaks here and there to read anything.

Keep up the great job with all the links, pals.

[Regina.Lampert]

Thanks for the reminder! HE asked for a deal, what he got in response was the offer of limited immunity.

Then he denied that the offer even existed. Once the state released THEIR emails in response to his, he's never mentioned it again.

And yes, I believe Baez has known for some time what happened to Caylee and who is responsible.

Yep, and if I recall correctly baez's first offer was that casey would talk and tell what she knew if she wasn't prosecuted......lol, what a joke!

[johnielee333]

:rose: For Sweet Caylee :rose:

[BJames]

Thanks for sharing your good news Warrkat, I love good stuff happening :)

As for hitting the road in a search? I guess I expected that Cindy would do that with all of the vigor you are feeling...but she never has. Part of me knows that I don't want to understand how she is acting, the other part of me doesn't want to think about what it means if I truly do understand her lack of searching.
Most women I know would be running out the door with a polygraph strapped to one arm and the other arm posed to knock down doors...but that isn't what has happened at all...sadly.

Just my opinion of course...

[marshmallow]

Maybe it's not in Caylee's best interest either. ;)

please explain this comment, I'm not sure what you mean and I don't want to assume.

[bluwaters]

Congrats on your most excellent news Warrkat! :seeya:

[SavannahStar]

Here's my problem with the role of the defense attorney.
I strongly believe in every accused person's right to a fair trial and competent counsel.
That said, is protecting the rights of the accused the same as trying to have the accused's found not guilty?
Isn't the purpose of the trial to find the truth?
If the accused is guilty, and has been found guilty by trial, hasn't the defense done its job if none of the accused rights were violated?
Is it the defense attorney's job to see to it that their client is found not guilty, even when their client is in fact guilty?
Being idealistic, I believe that if due process is properly carried out, under the watchful protection of the defense attorney, then the attorney has defended the guilty client very well.

I don't know if I am making any sense. I need to wake up and drink another cup of coffee. I guess what I am saying is that, under our constitution, we are guaranteed a fair hearing when charged with a crime. The process may be slow and frustrating, but it is important.
The lynch mob mentality should not prevail. We strive to be above that kind of brutality. The innocent should not be punished for crimes that they did not commit. The guilty have a presumption of innocence until found guilty, and the defense attorney's job is to hold the prosecution to proving the guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Surely that does not equate to trying to obstruct the court in its efforts to find the truth?

I believe that Casey Anthony is guilty of murdering her daughter.

Oh you don't need more coffee..that was an AWESOME post! :beer:

[ilovemylife]

please explain this comment, I'm not sure what you mean and I don't want to assume.


The only sense I could make of it would be if she was alive and well, with someone who is giving her all the love she deserves. Maybe not coming back into this mess would be a blessing. Not that it would be morally right. JMO

[crymeariver2006]

Yep, and if I recall correctly baez's first offer was that casey would talk and tell what she knew if she wasn't prosecuted......lol, what a joke!

Exactly!

He's in over his head. Maybe he finally realized that the movie & book offers aren't rolling in for a POS like Casey.

Odd that we haven't heard from Todd Black lately?

[SavannahStar]

after seeing the photos of Caylee with her grandparents I can't agree they're cold hearted. Desperate, confused, torn...yes. Cold hearted...no because the love they had for that child was apparent on their faces in the photos.

I totally agree with that, and I completely disagree that Caylee is forgotten to them.

[Kathlb]

Good morning, everyone.

I have good news this morning. Last week, I had a follow-up CT scan and PET scan to compare with the original ones when I started my chemo. I'M CLEAR! Don't have to go back to the doctor until January.
These last few weeks, especially, have been very hard. I tolerated the treatment pretty well, but was very tired almost all of the time. This morning, I feel ready to "lick" the world.

So, with all this energy, maybe I'd better head for Orlando, and organize a search for a precious little girl. Anyone else want to go? Fair warning...... you won't be able to keep up with me.

:rose: We love you, precious child.

Woo Hoo!!!! Now that is tremendous news warrkat!!! Time to gird your loins :-) and get ready to ride this case to the end...which will not come soon enough for me. :-)

[marshmallow]

That could be partially true in that Casey knew where Caylee was last, but not where Caylee is at the moment - OR - that she does know where Caylee is at the moment, but it isn't in Caylee's best interest for Casey to disclose that right now.



ah, I get it. you think she's out there alive and well. I'd like to believe that too but haven't seen anything that would cause me to believe that way.

Could you please share your reasons for thinking Caylee's alive and well? I'd really appreciate it.

[msgatorslayer]

What's up with Lee these days? Has he been to the Anthony home lately? Or is he staying low? Haven't heard anything about him lately.

[bballgrl]

Good Morning and thanks for the Friday thread. I can't believe I'm first, that's a first. :punch: (That's me to me) :-)

Per your post... I still can't believe he said that. Unless I am missing it entirely, to me that means that she has much to hide and he just admitted it. :shrug: I feel an arrest is coming soon, everyone seems to be moving toward that in my mind. And it can't come soon enough for me. MOO

Caylee, we love you. :rose:

I completely agree Kath. Sounds to me like he is saying that she has something to hide that the prosecution could use against her. If she is not guilty or at least INVOLVED in some way... why can't she talk?

[ilovemylife]

Seems LE knows for a fact Caylee is dead, until recently the said they believed her to be dead. I agree, alive people do not leave decomp in trunks.

[marshmallow]

Live people dont leave decomp behind in trunks.

yes, I know but I was hoping Daddy's Girl would elaborate on her vague comments. I'm that willing to have hope, even though as it stands now all signs point to Caylee being deceased.
If DG has something to add to her comment maybe sharing it with everyone will give us all a glimmer of optimism in this sad sad case.

[num1barb]

Yep and Casey is named suspect..which means all fingers point to her.

Joran is a suspect in the NH case and he got away with it..I hope Casey doesnt become another Joran with adoring fans slobbering all over her.

Nah, I don't think that princesspantsonfire will be the new joran. LE in florida are a LOT sharper than LE in aruba, IMO.

I believe princess will be the new scott! as in petersonwest.

[Kathlb]

Yep and Casey is named suspect..which means all fingers point to her.

Joran is a suspect in the NH case and he got away with it..I hope Casey doesnt become another Joran with adoring fans slobbering all over her.

IMO It'll never happen in this case. Too many including LE are mortified at what she did to that innocent baby. jmho

[Texas48]

Post 854 last night ....I always get up in am and read back post so I can try and catch up fo the day as I miss many post/info from night before as I go to bed very early. That being said...I came across this post and was so distrubed. YES..my post is OFF TOPIC so all get ready to pm CW. Its ok.....To rosejustrose..I am so happy about your mom and I know your prayers have been answered. Many many many posters here will agree w/me. I could tell how elated you were in your post as you should well be. Again, I, for one am thankful and happy for you and your family.

[johnielee333]

Here's my problem with the role of the defense attorney.
I strongly believe in every accused person's right to a fair trial and competent counsel.
That said, is protecting the rights of the accused the same as trying to have the accused's found not guilty?
Isn't the purpose of the trial to find the truth?
If the accused is guilty, and has been found guilty by trial, hasn't the defense done its job if none of the accused rights were violated?
Is it the defense attorney's job to see to it that their client is found not guilty, even when their client is in fact guilty?
Being idealistic, I believe that if due process is properly carried out, under the watchful protection of the defense attorney, then the attorney has defended the guilty client very well.

I don't know if I am making any sense. I need to wake up and drink another cup of coffee. I guess what I am saying is that, under our constitution, we are guaranteed a fair hearing when charged with a crime. The process may be slow and frustrating, but it is important.
The lynch mob mentality should not prevail. We strive to be above that kind of brutality. The innocent should not be punished for crimes that they did not commit. The guilty have a presumption of innocence until found guilty, and the defense attorney's job is to hold the prosecution to proving the guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Surely that does not equate to trying to obstruct the court in its efforts to find the truth?

I believe that Casey Anthony is guilty of murdering her daughter.

GREAT POST ! :beer:

[bballgrl]

yes, I know but I was hoping Daddy's Girl would elaborate on her vague comments. I'm that willing to have hope, even though as it stands now all signs point to Caylee being deceased.
If DG has something to add to her comment maybe sharing it with everyone will give us all a glimmer of optimism in this sad sad case.

Yeah, but only if that something is logical and not just supposition!

[GrandmaGA]

IMO It'll never happen in this case. Too many including LE are mortified at what she did to that innocent baby. jmho


What did she do to Caylee?

[ilovemylife]

What did she do to Caylee?



How did I know that was coming.....

[Texas48]

gee, ya think
he's a wise one isn't he, where is it that he attended law school again...
gotsta be harvard, he's a smart one i tell ya

seriously, even a squirrel brain knows the girl is guilty...
squirrel brain...get it...haha

:seeya: morning all Hey ya Winnie...On for only few minutes this am..was bothered by a post..you will see it. At least reading this post from you this am made me smile. Will PM you later after I get myself under control. I'm just plain "squirrelly" (sp) this am. Totally OT, yes,I know.

[sickntired]

Good morning, everyone.

I have good news this morning.
(snipped)

:rose: We love you, precious child.

Wonderful news, congrats!:rose:

[bballgrl]

What did she do to Caylee?

Ended her short little life!

[SandyO]

That could be partially true in that Casey knew where Caylee was last, but not where Caylee is at the moment - OR - that she does know where Caylee is at the moment, but it isn't in Caylee's best interest for Casey to disclose that right now.

Casey just isn't that 'honorable' of a person, DaddysGirl, and you know it, and we know it. There's no concern for Caylee, no motive of protecting her in Casey's heart. That just isn't a possiblilty in this tragedy.

[marinewife5]

Believe it or not Scott Peterson has fans who write him in jail. Lonely women I guess.

I just Casey doesnt get her a fan club in prison.

Men don't like to write like women do. I can't see her being the belle of the (cell)block...it's one thing to be a criminal...it's a whole new level to murder your child.

jmo

[BJames]

What did she do to Caylee?

In the very least she failed to protect her 'minor child' in life, at the most...she failed to protect the integrity of her minor child's body/soul in death.

Just my opinion of course...

[ilovemylife]

In the very least she failed to protect her 'minor child' in life, at the most...she failed to protect the integrity of her minor child's body/soul in death.

Just my opinion of course...


Well said, IMO

[marshmallow]

What did she do to Caylee?

either inadvertantly harmed her or deliberately harmed her or lost her or sold her or .... no matter what theory we each personally have it's not good for Caylee, she's still missing.

[marinewife5]

Casey just isn't that 'honorable' of a person, DaddysGirl, and you know it, and we know it. There's no concern for Caylee, no motive of protecting her in Casey's heart. That just isn't a possiblilty in this tragedy.

and if caylee is indeed in "danger"...um, that cat's out of the bag. I fail to believe that kidnappers would have no idea that LE is looking for caylee. unless they are that stupid, in which case, they could not have pulled of a kidnapping for this long. casey is worried about casey. no more, no less. i have not seen a single thing to indicate she is concerned for this child. i have seen little sincerity from caylee's family in general. jmo

[GrandmaGA]

How did I know that was coming.....


Because you know everything?

[ilovemylife]

Because you know everything?



I wish I did, then I could solve this case and lead them to Caylee.

:rose: Caylee

[marinewife5]

Scott murdered his...and in prison I'm sure getting and sending mail is about all you have. Male or female.


i'm sure casey will get mail. just not so many love notes. i'm sure many will be happy to tell her how they feel.
jmo

[bballgrl]

Some people are blessed with knowledge..dont hate because you aint.

:eek: ......:D

[GrandmaGA]

either inadvertantly harmed her or deliberately harmed her or lost her or sold her or .... no matter what theory we each personally have it's not good for Caylee, she's still missing.

Yes Caylee is still missing but we do not know what was done to her. Guessing who is mortified and what was done to her doesn't find out what happened to her or where she is.

[marshmallow]

Yes Caylee is still missing but we do not know what was done to her. Guessing who is mortified and what was done to her doesn't find out what happened to her or where she is.



we know a few things. Casey is involved. Casey was the last known person with her. Casey refuses to talk. Casey has dubious actions leading up to the loss of her child.

Those things do not bode well for Caylee. I keep asking the people who imply that there's another story that they are privvy to, to elaborate but none will and without any info or detail saying Caylee is alive and well, we have to look at what we do know. What we do knowdoesn't give any hint of a live Caylee out there.

[GrandmaGA]

Some people are blessed with knowledge..dont hate because you aint.


People who THINK they are knowedgable are not worth hating. With such knowedgable people as yourself it's a wonder we even have courts or trials, all we have to do is rely on your so called "knowledge". BTW, if you are so knowedgable tell us exactly where Caylee is and show the proof..................not leaks, could bes maybes possibly, etc. but real proof.

[bchand]

Good morning, everyone.

I have good news this morning. Last week, I had a follow-up CT scan and PET scan to compare with the original ones when I started my chemo. I'M CLEAR! Don't have to go back to the doctor until January.
These last few weeks, especially, have been very hard. I tolerated the treatment pretty well, but was very tired almost all of the time. This morning, I feel ready to "lick" the world.

So, with all this energy, maybe I'd better head for Orlando, and organize a search for a precious little girl. Anyone else want to go? Fair warning...... you won't be able to keep up with me.

:rose: We love you, precious child.


Just starting to read and catch up but I wanted to say "congratulations" to you warrkat!! Great news.

[bballgrl]

Yes Caylee is still missing but we do not know what was done to her. Guessing who is mortified and what was done to her doesn't find out what happened to her or where she is.

Neither does ignoring the decomp and the post mortem hair strand (Caylees) in the trunk of Caseys car....:rolleyes:

[num1barb]

we know a few things. Casey is involved. Casey was the last known person with her. Casey refuses to talk. Casey has dubious actions leading up to the loss of her child.

Those things do not bode well for Caylee. I keep asking the people who imply that there's another story that they are privvy to, to elaborate but none will and without any info or detail saying Caylee is alive and well, we have to look at what we do know. What we do knowdoesn't give any hint of a live Caylee out there.


They don't know anything more than we do.
They just try to make people THINK they know more.
Maybe it makes them feel important?:shrug:
Maybe they just enjoy confrontation?:shrug:

MOO of course

[Kathlb]

What did she do to Caylee?

If you don't have a pretty good idea, then you aren't paying attention to the boards at all. JMHO :D

[Mairi II]

Yes Caylee is still missing but we do not know what was done to her. Guessing who is mortified and what was done to her doesn't find out what happened to her or where she is.

Nor does being scolded by you on a regular basis, as if you're the grand pooba of knowledge and reason. :rolleyes:

Master baiters, ya just gotta disdain 'em. Sheesh.

[GrandmaGA]

A message board is to discuss possibilities, opinions, and theorys...Its LE's job to find out where she is and what happen to her. We as posters are just following along.

All I see on these boards is hate, trashing anyone who dares to even think there may be a chance Caylee is alive, trashing Casey's lawyer, trashing the grandparents, more and more wild accusations, kissing up to anyone who says anything negative about Casey or the family and IMO that is not just "following along".

[trich]

Warrkat..that is such great news.
I am really happy to hear you are clear and
that you again are feeling good.
:D

[num1barb]

All I see on these boards is hate, trashing anyone who dares to even think there may be a chance Caylee is alive, trashing Casey's lawyer, trashing the grandparents, more and more wild accusations, kissing up to anyone who says anything negative about Casey or the family and IMO that is not just "following along".


Why do you come here if you don't like it here??
just askin'

[GrandmaGA]

None of her friends seem to agree with that.

Each and every one of them have stated that Casey loved Caylee and was an excellent mother.

Silly you, that doesn't matter, all that matters is what anyone says negative about her. Don't you know these people on the boards are "knowedgable" and know everything about the family and what happeend to Caylee? :rolleyes:

[marshmallow]

All I see on these boards is hate, trashing anyone who dares to even think there may be a chance Caylee is alive, trashing Casey's lawyer, trashing the grandparents, more and more wild accusations, kissing up to anyone who says anything negative about Casey or the family and IMO that is not just "following along".



I disagree. I don't always agree with the majority but I've found that people have been respectful to me and as long as I respect their thoughts, they respect mine.

I've asked people who think Caylee's alive to please explain why they feel that way but none will so I feel disrespected in that manner but as we are all just plain old people I figure they can assume what they'd like and when anything factual comes up I hope to be let in on it too.

[trich]

All I see on these boards is hate, trashing anyone who dares to even think there may be a chance Caylee is alive, trashing Casey's lawyer, trashing the grandparents, more and more wild accusations, kissing up to anyone who says anything negative about Casey or the family and IMO that is not just "following along".

I was going to reply to the insinuations here but I changed my mind
because I decided to take the high road.

[GrandmaGA]

Why do you come here if you don't like it here??
just askin'


Who said I don't like it? I am giving my opinion of what I see here. I come here because i want to......just sayin

[ilovemylife]

All I see on these boards is hate, trashing anyone who dares to even think there may be a chance Caylee is alive, trashing Casey's lawyer, trashing the grandparents, more and more wild accusations, kissing up to anyone who says anything negative about Casey or the family and IMO that is not just "following along".

I see people with feelings, strong feelings toward a little girl that they don't even know. I see disbelief in how a mother can act the way that Casey has while her daughter is in fact "missing", whether she is dead or alive. I see confusion as to what anyone in the Anthony family is thinking right now. I'm pretty sure all of us would like to believe Caylee is alive, however almost everything points to that not being the case.

JMO

[Kathlb]

Silly you, that doesn't matter, all that matters is what anyone says negative about her. Don't you know these people on the boards are "knowedgable" and know everything about the family and what happeend to Caylee? :rolleyes:

Why are you here if you are so unhappy with the board? Just curious. I sure wouldn't spend my days hanging out in a spot that I felt so uncomfortable and unhappy with what goes on and is said. :shrug: moo

[num1barb]

Who said I don't like it? I am giving my opinion of what I see here. I come here because i want to......just sayin

OK, i get it.

[GrandmaGA]

You sure seem to have alot of anger for anyone with a different opinion than yours. If you want to believe Caylee is alive and the GPs are saints and Casey is a victim..then that is your right..so be it..believe it.


LOL wow you sure do read things that are not posted. NEVER did I say anyone is a saint nor casey is a victim. :rolleyes:

[marshmallow]

I suggest we get back on topic.

[margaret kep]

I was thinking this morning (dangerous sometimes) :D Remember the lady who picked up the Anthony's garbage and went through it? There was a cap in there that had been torn or cut up. Wonder if it was the one she wore when doing her evil deed and it has decomp on it? We haven't heard another word from that lady and she was going to put that info on the web of what all she found. Maybe LE swooped in and got it. MOO

Goot morning everyone. About that cap - Cindy: "It smells like a damn dead body in that cap". Lucky for LE the dumpster lady kept it. CAYLEE we love you Lil Angel:rose:

[trich]

i support our justice system too, don't get me wrong...
and i went to school to be a part of the justice system, and as mentioned, i currently work in the legal field.

i'm not 'downing' the justice system in anyway, and i understand everyone's 'right to an attorney' also...

i was just placing that aside and speaking on a personal level...
that i personally couldn't do it.

sure there are cases of the innocent being found guilty, although i don't think you'll see that as often anymore because of advancements in technology, dna testing, etc.

but sure, there are currently people doing time that are innocent...

but when you have a case like this, for example...
the simple lil' fact that this ''mother'' didn't even report her child missing for 31 days, heck that's enough to do me in...personally.

adding the lies, seeing the smiles, listening to the giggles, looking at the photos...
well, that just puts the icing on the cake.

throw in the fornesics...oh yea, i'm so beyond anything casey anthony has to say as for 'why' and 'defense'


I agree.
There is absolutely no excuse to not report your child missing for 31 days and in the process go about enjoying life as you see fit.
Then add in all the other things you mentioned and IMO I do not understand how anyone could believe she is anything but guilty.

[marinewife5]

Who said I don't like it? I am giving my opinion of what I see here. I come here because i want to......just sayin

Please give it via PM to those you see fit. I am here to discuss poor caylee anthony and her tragic fate. If you have something pertaining to the case, please share. If you have something to pertaining to other posters, locate the PM button and address it that way.

I belive that casey planned this murder, i do not believe it was an accident, and i believe the motive was to free herself from the "burden" of motherhood, and to spite her own mother. she is no a sociopath or psychopath, but rather a lying spoiled brat who has never been taught that there are consequences to her actions. she never learned that there is more to this world than her own agenda and wants. jmo

[ilovemylife]

Please give it via PM to those you see fit. I am here to discuss poor caylee anthony and her tragic fate. If you have something pertaining to the case, please share. If you have something to pertaining to other posters, locate the PM button and address it that way.

I belive that casey planned this murder, i do not believe it was an accident, and i believe the motive was to free herself from the "burden" of motherhood, and to spite her own mother. she is no a sociopath or psychopath, but rather a lying spoiled brat who has never been taught that there are consequences to her actions. she never learned that there is more to this world than her own agenda and wants. jmo



ITA!!!!!

JMO, as well.

[GrandmaGA]

Why are you here if you are so unhappy with the board? Just curious. I sure wouldn't spend my days hanging out in a spot that I felt so uncomfortable and unhappy with what goes on and is said. :shrug: moo

Oh no i do NOT spend my days here as so many do. When I have time to waste I enjoy coming here and reading all the trashy theories some of you come up with and sometimes I post. I am NOT uncomfortable or unhappy posting here at all. I have said before reading this and other boards is a real eye opener on human nature.

[shelbar53]

Exactly!

He's in over his head. Maybe he finally realized that the movie & book offers aren't rolling in for a POS like Casey.

Odd that we haven't heard from Todd Black lately?
good morning all, and great news warrkat
Article from today
"They won't say what she is suspecting of doing?" said Todd Black, a spokesman for Anthony's attorney, Jos� Baez. "A suspect in [her child's] disappearance means that she left her child with a baby sitter?"

http:///www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-casey0308oct03,0,7843744.story

[ilovemylife]

Oh no i do NOT spend my days here as so many do. When I have time to waste I enjoy coming here and reading all the trashy theories some of you come up with and sometimes I post. I am NOT uncomfortable or unhappy posting here at all. I have said before reading this and other boards is a real eye opener on human nature.



The eye opener I get on human nature is watching the news seeing all of these children that die at the hands of their own parents.

[Kathlb]

So this board is the tell-all of what happened to Caylee?

You should hurry then and notify LE, because they're still trying to figure it out. LOL


Nope, didn't say that at all. This board from what I have seen takes the facts we know of, watches the lies and stories from the parties involved change weekly, listens to the statements of experts and with common sense forms opinions and discusses evidence that we do know of. Simple. Your opinion is different and you are just as privy to that as others are theirs. It doesn't require you to poke fun, laugh at or ridicule others for their ideas. Good debate isn't a childish playground "I'm telling" discourse. It's people who have ideas and who know information sharing both in a good exchange. Not too difficult to understand really. jmho

[GrandmaGA]

Please give it via PM to those you see fit. I am here to discuss poor caylee anthony and her tragic fate. If you have something pertaining to the case, please share. If you have something to pertaining to other posters, locate the PM button and address it that way.

I belive that casey planned this murder, i do not believe it was an accident, and i believe the motive was to free herself from the "burden" of motherhood, and to spite her own mother. she is no a sociopath or psychopath, but rather a lying spoiled brat who has never been taught that there are consequences to her actions. she never learned that there is more to this world than her own agenda and wants. jmo


I was not asked the question on a PM therefore will not answer it through PM.

If you are so sure of Caylee's fate and her mother murdered her, you know her thoughts, what she is and how she was brought up you have nothing to add either. It's a done deal, you know it so what is to discuss? :shrug:

[bballgrl]

All I see on these boards is hate, trashing anyone who dares to even think there may be a chance Caylee is alive, trashing Casey's lawyer, trashing the grandparents, more and more wild accusations, kissing up to anyone who says anything negative about Casey or the family and IMO that is not just "following along".


Oh Please... I would love it if they found Caylee alove. I really, really would. I would love to be proven wrong in my opinion of Casey and the Anthonys. The fact of the matter is this: They are all LIARS. That is proven fact. They have told so many LIES that it is hard to keep it all straight. THAT my dear, is why we have such a low opinion of them. I will send a public apology to the Anthony's if we find Caylee alive. BUT.... if we do, then Casey probably DID sell her to someone and that in itself is despicable! So, please, don't play Casey's defender to me.

I have to look at the facts of this case. Caylee is missing, her own MOTHER did not report her missing for 30 days, she is NOT cooperating with LE, there is EVIDENCE of decomposition (HUMAN decomposition) in the trunk of Caseys car.. there is a post mortem hair strand that is PROVEN to be Caylees.... need I say more? Really?

[marshmallow]

The fact that they have named Casey the only suspect is telling to me. I would like nothing more than to find out Caylee is alive but I've seen nothing to allow me to believe it.
The facts as I see them point to Caylee's demise and I still think it was not premitated. However, I can happily coexist with those who feel it was.

The things that stand out to me, besides the hair/decomp., are:
1. Casey not reporting or mentioning that Caylee was missing
2. Casey's lies when dealing with the LE
3. the lack of detail put out by the defense to help find Caylee.

If I discount the bounty hunter's info, he's too wishywashy for me, I discount the ZG side story too. I discount the previous thievery, and I can even discount Casey's long history of lying. Even without those things I still feel Casey is involved in Caylee demise.

[margaret kep]

Good morning, everyone.

I have good news this morning. Last week, I had a follow-up CT scan and PET scan to compare with the original ones when I started my chemo. I'M CLEAR! Don't have to go back to the doctor until January.
These last few weeks, especially, have been very hard. I tolerated the treatment pretty well, but was very tired almost all of the time. This morning, I feel ready to "lick" the world.

So, with all this energy, maybe I'd better head for Orlando, and organize a search for a precious little girl. Anyone else want to go? Fair warning...... you won't be able to keep up with me.

:rose: We love you, precious child.


Goot morning War - WONDERFUL and beaudeeful news. Go kick azz.:beer:

[GrandmaGA]

Not necessarily Grandma - and thank God for that!

I don't think at all that this board is reflective of most people on the real, outside world.

I don't think so either but the ones who are the loudest and "think" they are the most knowedgable are a true study of human nature.

[shelbar53]

sorry link wont work, but the article is from the orlandosentinel.com

[bchand]

good morning all, and great news warrkat
Article from today
"They won't say what she is suspecting of doing?" said Todd Black, a spokesman for Anthony's attorney, Jos� Baez. "A suspect in [her child's] disappearance means that she left her child with a baby sitter?"

http:///www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-casey0308oct03,0,7843744.story

Thanks for the link shel. From that link:

Meanwhile, the Florida Department of Children and Families confirmed Thursday it has concluded its investigation related to Caylee's disappearance.

DCF spokeswoman Carrie Hoeppner said the agency's findings have been given to the Sheriff's Office, but she did not say what those findings were.

"The information obtained in the investigation does not meet the criteria for release at this time," she said in an e-mail.

DCF's role in the case remains "very limited," she said.

I wonder what that's about? I didn't realize there was a separate investigation going on.

[spacemonkey]

This whole case is odd. Her lawyer fits right in.
That was just tooo funny:lol:

[bchand]

sorry link wont work, but the article is from the orlandosentinel.com

I just went to the main page and found it:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-casey0308oct03,0,7843744.story

[jammies]

I see the trolls are up early and people are feeding them.



later.........

[marinewife5]

good morning all, and great news warrkat
Article from today
"They won't say what she is suspecting of doing?" said Todd Black, a spokesman for Anthony's attorney, Jos� Baez. "A suspect in [her child's] disappearance means that she left her child with a baby sitter?"

http:///www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-casey0308oct03,0,7843744.story


imo, that crew would do better by casey if they just stayed quiet, and if they had any reply it would be "no comment". they just keep digging and digging deeper and deeper. either they are not that bright, or it's passive-aggressive behavior directed at jose's star client. jmo

[NikkiG77508]

Not necessarily Grandma - and thank God for that!

I don't think at all that this board is reflective of most people on the real, outside world.


:rolleyes: Okay, so are you going to talk about Caylee or are you going to continue to TRY to insult the posters on this board? barf

I am praying an arrest comes soon - JB may have just put his foot in his mouth. IMO

[desmom]

Morning all

Thursday, Casey's attorney said it's not in her best interest to tell what she knows about where Caylee is.

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html


This sounds like he's admitting her guilt. Any thoughts?

I did a :eek: when I read his statement.

I know we have some attorneys that post here. I would love to know their impressions of JB's statement.

[trich]

So this board is the tell-all of what happened to Caylee?

You should hurry then and notify LE, because they're still trying to figure it out. LOL




:no: nasty , nasty!

Are you sure you are not CASEY .....

[shelbar53]

the detectives say "caylee is dead and at one point her body was in the trunk of her mom's car"
http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html
if link doesnt work thats from wftv.com9 {sorry Im not good at posting links..im working on it}

[GrandmaGA]

And if you are so sure shes alive how about I hop in my car and come pick you up and we go get Caylee..or better yet..save gas and you just call LE and let them know that the decomp wasnt Caylee and where they can locate her at.EXCUSE me, WHERE did I even say she was definitely alive like many of you say she is dead? It is the Caylee is dead crowd who should give LE all the details they are so "knowedgable" about.

[marshmallow]

imo, that crew would do better by casey if they just stayed quiet, and if they had any reply it would be "no comment". they just keep digging and digging deeper and deeper. either they are not that bright, or it's passive-aggressive behavior directed at jose's star client. jmo



I have to agree. Sometimes no comment is better than a comment.


(thank you for keeping this on track)

[marshmallow]

EXCUSE me, WHERE did I even say she was definitely alive like many of you say she is dead? It is the Caylee is dead crowd who should give LE all the details they are so "knowedgable" about.

can we please stop the bickering and go back to sharing our thoughts about Caylee and Casey's involvement.

[ilovemylife]

the detectives say "caylee is dead and at one point her body was in the trunk of her mom's car"
http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html

[crymeariver2006]

Thanks for the link shel. From that link:

Meanwhile, the Florida Department of Children and Families confirmed Thursday it has concluded its investigation related to Caylee's disappearance.

DCF spokeswoman Carrie Hoeppner said the agency's findings have been given to the Sheriff's Office, but she did not say what those findings were.

"The information obtained in the investigation does not meet the criteria for release at this time," she said in an e-mail.

DCF's role in the case remains "very limited," she said.

I wonder what that's about? I didn't realize there was a separate investigation going on.


Yes, Casey has been visited by DCF periodically since her arrest IIRC.

Seems like the conclusion of their investigation coincides with the OCSO naming her a suspect. :shrug:

If the information doesn't meet the criteria for release, it *could* mean that it's very damaging to the suspect Casey Anthony.

(I couldn't get the link to open, darnit. I was so looking forward to reading Todd's musings. :D)

[barskin&co.]

May I suggest we ignore the posters who only want to shout at us about what terrible people we are?

Instead, here's Jesse interview, yesterday:

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/26988449#26988449

[num1barb]

the detectives say "caylee is dead and at one point her body was in the trunk of her mom's car"
http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html
if link doesnt work thats from wftv.com9 {sorry Im not good at posting links..im working on it}


That's a strong statement. I mean, really, they can't make it any clearer than that, can they?

[bballgrl]

the detectives say "caylee is dead and at one point her body was in the trunk of her mom's car"
http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html
if link doesnt work thats from wftv.com9 {sorry Im not good at posting links..im working on it}

Oh please... this is not going to be a good enough statement for OUR posters... because LE lies. LOL :lol:

[trich]

How did I know that was coming.....


Some people just don't get it do they?

[GrandmaGA]

That's a strong statement. I mean, really, they can't make it any clearer than that, can they?

Clearer would be an arrest IMO.
Why the word games if they have all this so called evidnece?

[GrandmaGA]

The late crew last night came up with their estimates of When Casey Will Be Arrested (along with big wagers.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/ArrestTable-1.jpgHow sad to make this a game about a child. Again, a study of human nature.

[num1barb]

Clearer would be an arrest IMO.
Why the word games if they have all this so called evidnece?

IMO it's just a matter of time until an arrest. LE has no reason to hurry. There is no statute of limitations on murder.

[marshmallow]

Clearer would be an arrest IMO.
Why the word games if they have all this so called evidnece?

why go half-donkied into arresting her? I've seen no proof nor heard any believable theories that Caylee's alive but I'd still prefer LE did a thorough job so that all loose ends are tied up before arresting her. LE not jumping the gun is commendable if you ask me.

[ruth66]

Good morning, everyone.

I have good news this morning. Last week, I had a follow-up CT scan and PET scan to compare with the original ones when I started my chemo. I'M CLEAR! Don't have to go back to the doctor until January.
These last few weeks, especially, have been very hard. I tolerated the treatment pretty well, but was very tired almost all of the time. This morning, I feel ready to "lick" the world.

So, with all this energy, maybe I'd better head for Orlando, and organize a search for a precious little girl. Anyone else want to go? Fair warning...... you won't be able to keep up with me.

:rose: We love you, precious child.

That's good news, God's blessing to you.

[shelbar53]

How sad to make this a game about a child. Again, a study of human nature.

Well her lawyer baez made it a game when he said it wouldnt in her best interst to show her cards...what are they playng poker, gin rummy?

[crymeariver2006]

Will Casey be arrested again?

IMO, most definitely.

[num1barb]

Will Casey be arrested again?


Absolutely

[joint-heir]

My thoughts on Caylee maybe being alive somewhere else is: how cruel could you be to have a child away from home and loved ones for this long? That really would be cruel if it were true!
I believe evidence takes us down a different road, tho.
This board is very interesting , at times, when posters aren't fussin with each other. I read a lot and have to skip a lot. It shouldn't be that way...
Praises to our Lord for the victories over cancer!!!:rose::rose:

[marinewife5]

I have to agree. Sometimes no comment is better than a comment.


(thank you for keeping this on track)

he keeps saying casey has an explanation that will show she is innocent...if that were true, why not spill it to LE, let them verify it, and just avoid a trial???

jmo

[day2day]

Why are you here may I ask? I spend most of my time on this "outside" you speak of. 99% believe Casey killed Caylee. Her parents and her lawyer are helping covering it up. They don't sit around on message boards pretending to be in the know just for kicks. That you appear to be doing. Why?

In my opinion of course.


Good question. 109 days and Caylee still has NOT been found. So very sad. And all the while her mama just lays around posting on myspace and facebook...warm and comfy..
what a shame..jmo

[trich]

I am sorry you feel this way. I have been posting here since the Cody Posey trial. I have seen a lot of things posted that I personally felt was overboard and then I discovered the Ignore option. It really does help.

I want to believe Caylee is alive just like I want to believe Trenton is alive, but the actions of their mothers make it very difficult.

I have tried to come up with a scenario that would explain why Casey would not notify LE her child is missing. Her behavior during the time period in question - partying, shopping, mass text/myspace messages inviting people to party at Fusians - is not that of a mother out of her mind with worry because her 2 year old is missing.

jmo


But she did have to follow a SCRIPT...
Guess it told her to do all these things....
Give me a break that does not even make sense.:mad:

If she thought that story ws going to fly she is living in a fantasy world,
along with her family.

[bballgrl]

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=aa4d8d07-3624-4478-bced-3a854179fbf6

"One major source of evidence reported in the case is Casey's car, which was found in an abandoned parking lot in June. Casey's mother Cindy and others told authorities there was a strong, foul odor emanating from the vehicle. Authorities say forensic evidence from the car indicates a body had been inside at some point. They say the body was that of Caylee."

[mattncats]

All I see on these boards is hate, trashing anyone who dares to even think there may be a chance Caylee is alive, trashing Casey's lawyer, trashing the grandparents, more and more wild accusations, kissing up to anyone who says anything negative about Casey or the family and IMO that is not just "following along".

I agree. I didn't know what to expect upon signing up for the boards, but I didn't join to be trashed, analyzed, or insulted. I thought it would be fun, interesting and informative. so far, I get slammed on everything, so I guess I'll just lurk.

[need2no]

I probably shouldn't even go here but what the heck, better than arguing....
Any ideas on what Lennie was trying to say, or insinuating:

GRACE: Back to Leonard Padilla. Everyone, you know Padilla, the bounty hunter out of Sacramento, California. What do you make of this sighting?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: Well, it`s easy enough, like Brooks said. You can start with the 18th, if you want, and you know that the car was at the house. On the 20th is when she probably was out of gas and her and Tony went and broke into the shed, which is also Friday night. And then you go to the next week, which is the 23rd. The 24th, the car was seen at the house by George. You go to the 25th and the 26th. The morning of the 27th, the car was out of gas, parked in the check cashing lot. So after that, you don`t -- you don`t look for the car.

But the one thing that we`ve started working on, just two days ago, we got a complete list of all of the phone calls and the towers that they bounced off of. And one of the things that`s very interesting is how Casey thinks. On the morning of the 27th, Tony had said that he went down to the Amscot, picked her up. She had some groceries. Well, on that particular morning, there`s a little timeframe in there when she called her mother, she called Amy, she called Jesse.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/02/ng.01.html


ETA: Great news warrkat....sending positive thoughts your way for continued good health! :rose:

[threesnugbugs]

Here's my problem with the role of the defense attorney.
I strongly believe in every accused person's right to a fair trial and competent counsel.
That said, is protecting the rights of the accused the same as trying to have the accused's found not guilty?
Isn't the purpose of the trial to find the truth?
If the accused is guilty, and has been found guilty by trial, hasn't the defense done its job if none of the accused rights were violated?
Is it the defense attorney's job to see to it that their client is found not guilty, even when their client is in fact guilty?
Being idealistic, I believe that if due process is properly carried out, under the watchful protection of the defense attorney, then the attorney has defended the guilty client very well.

I don't know if I am making any sense. I need to wake up and drink another cup of coffee. I guess what I am saying is that, under our constitution, we are guaranteed a fair hearing when charged with a crime. The process may be slow and frustrating, but it is important.
The lynch mob mentality should not prevail. We strive to be above that kind of brutality. The innocent should not be punished for crimes that they did not commit. The guilty have a presumption of innocence until found guilty, and the defense attorney's job is to hold the prosecution to proving the guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Surely that does not equate to trying to obstruct the court in its efforts to find the truth?



Wow! This is the best thought I have ever read regarding the system. I totally agree with you.

[bballgrl]

he keeps saying casey has an explanation that will show she is innocent...if that were true, why not spill it to LE, let them verify it, and just avoid a trial???

jmo

I can't imagine that selling your daughter to strangers makes you "innocent". That is her latest theory, right??? :rolleyes:

[BJames]

Wow...that is quite something coming from Baez, I wonder if he is trying to be 'flip' or is he quite serious? Because if he is admitting that whatever Casey has to say about this may give LE ammunition, it is almost like saying..'I know my client is guilty, and if she talks she's going away...'
Correct interpretation or not...that is what it sounds like to me.
I honestly wonder if Casey realizes that the 'gig' is up? It has been said that she reads online...most folks eventually make their way to this board. Just with the links that have been posted to the folks involved in this case...if Casey (and/or) Cindy are reading here...they have to know that the curtain is coming down. If Casey hasn't admitted to LE the lies (soooo many) that she has told, maybe she has come clean with her mother/father? She has to know that when this hits a courtroom all of the BS is coming out...whether they can prove her accountable for whatever has come of that poor baby or not.....all of these lies (sooo many) are going to be revealed.
I don't lie for a couple of reasons...mostly because I am sooo not good at it...my head would explode. But if I did and I saw this all coming at me (guilty of murder or not)...I would have a nervous breakdown...
One's life being displayed for all to see in a courtroom...we all have 'warts'..but this is above and beyond...

Just my opinion of course....

[trt]

Wow...that is quite something coming from Baez, I wonder if he is trying to be 'flip' or is he quite serious? Because if he is admitting that whatever Casey has to say about this may give LE ammunition, it is almost like saying..'I know my client is guilty, and if she talks she's going away...'
Correct interpretation or not...that is what it sounds like to me.
I honestly wonder if Casey realizes that the 'gig' is up? It has been said that she reads online...most folks eventually make their way to this board. Just with the links that have been posted to the folks involved in this case...if Casey (and/or) Cindy are reading here...they have to know that the curtain is coming down. If Casey hasn't admitted to LE the lies (soooo many) that she has told, maybe she has come clean with her mother/father? She has to know that when this hits a courtroom all of the BS is coming out...whether they can prove her accountable for whatever has come of that poor baby or not.....all of these lies (sooo many) are going to be revealed.
I don't lie for a couple of reasons...mostly because I am sooo not good at it...my head would explode. But if I did and I saw this all coming at me (guilty of murder or not)...I would have a nervous breakdown...
One's life being displayed for all to see in a courtroom...we all have 'warts'..but this is above and beyond...

Just my opinion of course....

ITA BJames, it did seem like some sort of admission on Baez' part that Casey has information that would put her away for life and that was why she isn't talking.

[marshmallow]

Not if it were in Caylee's best interest to save her life, no.

what makes you think Caylee's alive DG?

[trt]

What you would do is a non factor. Not everyone reacts the same way. Based on the actions by the parents, especially Cindy, leads me to believe they are helping Casey cover up her crime.

As far as the attorney goes. He's in the hotseat because he chose to be. I think he is in over his head.

In my opinion of course.

ITA, his statements about why Casey isn't talking bring that point right home. He is out of his league and because of that, he is saying stupid things that make his client look even *more* guilty (if that's possible).

JMO

[shelbar53]

With all the evidence coming back allowing the detectives to state that caylee is dead and coupled with Baez comment, I do believe that an arrest for murder will be forthcoming soon, very soon. I would have to agree with others that it will be either today saturday or sunday.

[crymeariver2006]

I probably shouldn't even go here but what the heck, better than arguing....
Any ideas on what Lennie was trying to say, or insinuating:

GRACE: Back to Leonard Padilla. Everyone, you know Padilla, the bounty hunter out of Sacramento, California. What do you make of this sighting?

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: Well, it`s easy enough, like Brooks said. You can start with the 18th, if you want, and you know that the car was at the house. On the 20th is when she probably was out of gas and her and Tony went and broke into the shed, which is also Friday night. And then you go to the next week, which is the 23rd. The 24th, the car was seen at the house by George. You go to the 25th and the 26th. The morning of the 27th, the car was out of gas, parked in the check cashing lot. So after that, you don`t -- you don`t look for the car.

But the one thing that we`ve started working on, just two days ago, we got a complete list of all of the phone calls and the towers that they bounced off of. And one of the things that`s very interesting is how Casey thinks. On the morning of the 27th, Tony had said that he went down to the Amscot, picked her up. She had some groceries. Well, on that particular morning, there`s a little timeframe in there when she called her mother, she called Amy, she called Jesse.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/02/ng.01.html


ETA: Great news warrkat....sending positive thoughts your way for continued good health! :rose:


What I make of it is he didn't answer the question.

:shrug:

[marshmallow]

What you would do is a non factor. Not everyone reacts the same way. Based on the actions by the parents, especially Cindy, leads me to believe they are helping Casey cover up her crime.

As far as the attorney goes. He's in the hotseat because he chose to be. I think he is in over his head.

In my opinion of course.



I don't know if they've helped her cover it or if they just refuse to believe Casey was involved.
I do agree with you on the Atty. He chose to take the case and he has implied that Casey has more info but refuses to share it even though her child's safety was involved.

[GrandmaGA]

why go half-donkied into arresting her? I've seen no proof nor heard any believable theories that Caylee's alive but I'd still prefer LE did a thorough job so that all loose ends are tied up before arresting her. LE not jumping the gun is commendable if you ask me.
But, but according to some posters she is public enemy #1...........................better get her behind bars as soon as possible.

What loose ends? I thought they had all this ironclad proof so many "knowedgable" posters are talking about.

[bballgrl]

Once again, a statement coming from the PRESS, and not directly from LE.

They're still hedging. :)

Are you serious? Really?

[ruth66]

[QUOTE=bluwaters;12224597]Here's my problem with the role of the defense attorney.
I strongly believe in every accused person's right to a fair trial and competent counsel.
That said, is protecting the rights of the accused the same as trying to have the accused's found not guilty?
Isn't the purpose of the trial to find the truth?
If the accused is guilty, and has been found guilty by trial, hasn't the defense done its job if none of the accused rights were violated?
Is it the defense attorney's job to see to it that their client is found not guilty, even when their client is in fact guilty?
Being idealistic, I believe that if due process is properly carried out, under the watchful protection of the defense attorney, then the attorney has defended the guilty client very well.

I don't know if I am making any sense. I need to wake up and drink another cup of coffee. I guess what I am saying is that, under our constitution, we are guaranteed a fair hearing when charged with a crime. The process may be slow and frustrating, but it is important.
The lynch mob mentality should not prevail. We strive to be above that kind of brutality. The innocent should not be punished for crimes that they did not commit. The guilty have a presumption of innocence until found guilty, and the defense attorney's job is to hold the prosecution to proving the guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Surely that does not equate to trying to obstruct the court in its efforts to find the truth?

I believe that Casey Anthony is guilty of murdering her daughter.

ITA, I have been wanting to say that for a long time but did not want to sound anti-defense (not that you do). I applaud you for saying that. I also have been dissappointed in defense lawyers when they accuse the victim (NE and Spector). Baez has been so negative about LE and very verbal with his spin, I have to wonder if he realizes that he is a part of the judicial system and that this is not his last case that he will have to deal with LE.

[Joan Weiss]

With all the evidence coming back allowing the detectives to state that caylee is dead and coupled with Baez comment, I do believe that an arrest for murder will be forthcoming soon, very soon. I would have to agree with others that it will be either today saturday or sunday.IIRC, all capital crimes in FLA have to go to the GJ, first. imo

[SavannahStar]

Here's my problem with the role of the defense attorney.
I strongly believe in every accused person's right to a fair trial and competent counsel.
That said, is protecting the rights of the accused the same as trying to have the accused's found not guilty?
Isn't the purpose of the trial to find the truth?
If the accused is guilty, and has been found guilty by trial, hasn't the defense done its job if none of the accused rights were violated?
Is it the defense attorney's job to see to it that their client is found not guilty, even when their client is in fact guilty?
Being idealistic, I believe that if due process is properly carried out, under the watchful protection of the defense attorney, then the attorney has defended the guilty client very well.

I don't know if I am making any sense. I need to wake up and drink another cup of coffee. I guess what I am saying is that, under our constitution, we are guaranteed a fair hearing when charged with a crime. The process may be slow and frustrating, but it is important.
The lynch mob mentality should not prevail. We strive to be above that kind of brutality. The innocent should not be punished for crimes that they did not commit. The guilty have a presumption of innocence until found guilty, and the defense attorney's job is to hold the prosecution to proving the guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Surely that does not equate to trying to obstruct the court in its efforts to find the truth?

I believe that Casey Anthony is guilty of murdering her daughter.

Wow! This is the best thought I have ever read regarding the system. I totally agree with you.

ITA and said so earlier. That post needs to be bumped over and over again, for as long as this case goes on.

Bluwaters NAILED it. :beer:

[GrandmaGA]

I don't know if they've helped her cover it or if they just refuse to believe Casey was involved.
I do agree with you on the Atty. He chose to take the case and he has implied that Casey has more info but refuses to share it even though her child's safety was involved.


All he has implied is anything Casey says WILL be twisted and used against her as it has already IMO.

[marinewife5]

ITA, his statements about why Casey isn't talking bring that point right home. He is out of his league and because of that, he is saying stupid things that make his client look even *more* guilty (if that's possible).

JMO

he certainly is driving the "guilty" point home. i did notice his behavior change when the buzz started about casey and his "closeness". i think deep down he knows he's dancing with the devil and he doesn't like it. i respect casey's right to an attorney, and i am actually glad that jose is hers. jmo

[jessjam]

People who THINK they are knowedgable are not worth hating. With such knowedgable people as yourself it's a wonder we even have courts or trials, all we have to do is rely on your so called "knowledge". BTW, if you are so knowedgable tell us exactly where Caylee is and show the proof..................not leaks, could bes maybes possibly, etc. but real proof.

Why don't you show us all the real proof that she is still out their alive more then the proof that something terrible has happened to her. Why in the hell would Casey do all of this lying and avoid answering questions to find Caylee. You know darn well if Caylee was alive, her mom would be doing everything she could to find her and not lying. I don't want to hear that if she said anything that the people that have Caylee will hurt her. That is a bunch of crap. If Casey keeps using that exuse and does not try to help then that is letting us all believe that nothing will ever happen and we should just sit here and forget about everything and just wait for the people that have her to call the police and say now is a safe time to come get her. OMG

[num1barb]

But, but according to some posters she is public enemy #1...........................better get her behind bars as soon as possible.

What loose ends? I thought they had all this ironclad proof so many "knowedgable" posters are talking about.


Finding little Caylee's body is something I would consider a loose end.
There is no statute of limitations on murder. No need to rush.

[WillowInFlight]

IIRC, all capital crimes in FLA have to go to the GJ, first. imo

Good morning Miss Joan, I missed NG last night and then I went on to watch Biden win the debate did NG have anything new on her show was it just the same old same old? TIA.

[bballgrl]

Are you serious? Really?

Ok, light fluffy snack, I am taking your advice... MUM :)

[BANJO GRANNY]

Surely would save LE a lot of time and headaches, wouldn't it? :) It also would if Casey and her family would tell the truth for once in their sorry lives IMO

:rose:For Baby Caylee

[WillowInFlight]

All he has implied is anything Casey says WILL be twisted and used against her as it has already IMO.

That is not at all what he is implying, but you already knew that.

[Joan Weiss]

But, but according to some posters she is public enemy #1...........................better get her behind bars as soon as possible.

What loose ends? I thought they had all this ironclad proof so many "knowedgable" posters are talking about.In this country, majority rules. Posters here have put all the details together, used their common sense and logic, and have formed conclusions.

Granted, the posters are more knowledgeable than the ultimate jury, which will consist of ordinary citizens, using the common sense, logic, and life experience they hold in their everyday life. I don't think the future jury will cut any slack to that odious creature. The facts will assure that.

The biggest fact that will convict Casey will be that she did nothing when her daughter went missing, but instead partied and made plans for the future. The evidence that Caylee is deceased is in that car. imo

[marshmallow]

Hey, I agree, and if the cops have actual proof of a decomposing Caylee in Caseys trunk, that is not good enough for an arrest? It should be cut and dry and it isn't. moo

I applaud LE's restraint. Better to make sure your net has no holes before you go out to fish. Otherwise the fish can get free.

I think LE's ding as good a job as they can without cooperation from the person who was last with Caylee.

[ruth66]

The only sense I could make of it would be if she was alive and well, with someone who is giving her all the love she deserves. Maybe not coming back into this mess would be a blessing. Not that it would be morally right. JMO

And if that is the case why not say to LE that she gave her child away because she couldn't take care of her. If Caylee is truly still with us and she knows that then why not either say that or send CA or GA to go get her. Surely the charges for abandoning her child would be less than 1st degree murder right? Because quite frankly if Caylee is alive I hope she is not returned to that family, they have proven that they not keeping her best interests in the forefront.
:shrug:

[need2no]

What I make of it is he didn't answer the question.

:shrug:


LOL...no he didn't, and oddly Nancy didn't jump down his throat like she does with others on the show, in fact she made no comment at all in regard to his statement. :shrug: Maybe she thought it wasn't worthy of a response. :)

The last line (I bolded) was what I was trying to make some sense of...his mentioning the phone calls to Cindy, Jesse and Amy on June 27. You know how Lenny likes to make a little comment one night and then elaborates the next night, or at some point when questioned further. I wish Nancy would have questioned him. Why bother to have him on the show at all, especially if she isn't going to discuss his comments to see where he is coming from. Sometimes she just let's him throw something out there and then moves on...it's annoying.

[shelbar53]

IIRC, all capital crimes in FLA have to go to the GJ, first. imo

We will be aware if this has or is going to a grand jury or is that info kept secret until a decision is reached?

[GrandmaGA]

He's not required to "spill" anything to LE, in fact that's quite the opposite of what his obligations are as a Defense Attorney.

If more people could actually understand the function of a Defense Attorney maybe the unfounded hate wouldn't be so blinding.

They would learn to understand fast if it was them accused of something.

[bballgrl]

I applaud LE's restraint. Better to make sure your net has no holes before you go out to fish. Otherwise the fish can get free.

I think LE's ding as good a job as they can without cooperation from the person who was last with Caylee.

You hit the nail on the head. All they need is Casey cooperation. If she knows so much and is not telling, she is putting the whole investigation (as well as her childs life or ultimate rest) in jeopardy. I think that is what we are most angry about. They keep imlying that she knows something, but she cares more about herself than her child, so she is keeping that information to herself. I just can't comprehend that!

[crymeariver2006]

LOL...no he didn't, and oddly Nancy didn't jump down his throat like she does with others on the show, in fact she made no comment at all in regard to his statement. :shrug: Maybe she thought it wasn't worthy of a response. :)

The last line (I bolded) was what I was trying to make some sense of...his mentioning the phone calls to Cindy, Jesse and Amy on June 27. You know how Lenny likes to make a little comment one night and then elaborates the next night, or at some point when questioned further. I wish Nancy would have questioned him. Why bother to have him on the show at all, especially if she isn't going to discuss his comments to see where he is coming from. Sometimes she just let's him throw something out there and then moves on...it's annoying.

IIRC, he said some time ago that Casey had called Jesse first before she called Tony to pick her up at Amscot. Something about Jesse either couldn't or wouldn't pick her up.

So, if Jesse HAD picked her up, was he going to be the lucky recipient of the pasta dinner?



:D

[BJames]

I think they are all in way over their heads..Cindy, George, Lee (maybe), Casey (for sure) and also Jose Baez.
I have a bit of different thinking on Casey being arrested right now tho...I think the longer she is out the more the 'threat' of going to prison for good might eat at her. However...with that being said it appears thus far that she doesn't 'think' long term about anything, the denial of any consequences has probably been a big part of her life.
There isn't much chance that Baez knows what LE has right now and without them formally charging Casey they don't have to provide discovery.
I think she needs to twist in the wind until LE has everything that they can gather...I so wish that would be a live Caylee...sadly I don't think so.

Just my opinion of course...

[ilovemylife]

Okay, Caylee is alive and in danger.
Casey is the hero who is trying to save her.
Meanwhile, she is out partying, all in effort to protect Caylee.
Lies to LE to protect Caylee.

Someone searches online for Missing Children Websites & Chloroform. Decomp is found in her car.
And we're crazy to not believe Caylee is still alive.

Yep, makes sense to me.



JMO :)

[marshmallow]

I think that Caylee was loved and cherished by her Grandparents and friends of the family. I think her Grandparents would have loved to have continued raising her and seeing her grow. I think Caylee going missing/probably dead is all Casey and that the Grandparents only became involved after the fact. The love they have for that child is very clear in all the photos of them w/ her.

[Joan Weiss]

We will be aware if this has or is going to a grand jury or is that info kept secret until a decision is reached?I believe we will know when they are called to deliberate this case. There's no secrecy rule about that, and the media will be on that like white on rice. What goes on inside the GJ room will be kept secret, but their decision will be public. imo

[bballgrl]

Question here. Why doesn't Jose plea bargain to get the death penalty off the table. I think everyone realizes that if they charge her with premeditated murder, she could face the death penalty. If she gives up the location of the body, she might only get LWOP.:shrug:

Because Casey is not willing to admit that she is guilty! It all comes down to Casey..... :mad:

[joint-heir]

Why did Cindy accept the lie of Zanny when she really thought it was Amy or Jesse keeping Caylee all this time?
The dynamics of Cindy & Casey's personalities shows intimidation on the part of both of them. When you love someone, you are often intimidated into accepting their lies to keep from rocking the boat.
Did Casey say that Caylee is with a sammy?
Steff has been putting forth some real effort on calls and pictures released. If we only had the originals... I really wish we had what the LE have(know not sensible) but we could put this together a lot easier!! lol
That one time Ricardo says the night he went to sleep with both Caylee and Casey in the bed and woke up with Casey only....sure wish the date lined up with Caylee's missing and then we could at least think that Caylee would have been asleep and not known.

[WinnieLeigh7]

First, OT...Can we request a new ad?? I swear I'll never be a nissan if they drive as slow as they make this board!! LOL


Okay...now with that frustration stated...

I asked this morning, and I apologize if it was answered already, I got lost among the two threads then had to get to work...
so now that I'm "working"...LOL


The cadaver dogs...
They're searching two areas with these dogs is my understanding. Without being too graphic, can anyone edumucate me on this...

These dogs pick up on two gases that the body releases after death, correct??
How long will the body let off these gases? I mean is it from rotting flesh? decaying organs?

If all that's left are skeleton remains now :( will the dogs be able to 'sense' that??

[GrandmaGA]

Very true, but that's only if you read it as it was written, instead of reading into it and fabricating it to be more than what was actually stated. ;)That is what gets to me. They are so "knowedgable" that they read and hear things that are not there and trash because of their own thoughts and twists, not what was actually said. :shrug: VERY strange.

[num1barb]

Okay, Caylee is alive and in danger.
Casey is the hero who is trying to save her.
Meanwhile, she is out partying, all in effort to protect Caylee.
Lies to LE to protect Caylee.

Someone searches online for Missing Children Websites & Chloroform. Decomp is found in her car.
And we're crazy to not believe Caylee is still alive.

Yep, makes sense to me.



JMO :)

Haven't you heard?? She's Mother of the Year material :)

After reading about LE still searching out by the airport, I'm more convinced than ever that TES found something. I do believe what Tim said about there being too much water at the time, I wonder how much the water has receded and if LE is getting to cover all the ground they are interested in.

[WinnieLeigh7]

Question here. Why doesn't Jose plea bargain to get the death penalty off the table. I think everyone realizes that if they charge her with premeditated murder, she could face the death penalty. If she gives up the location of the body, she might only get LWOP.:shrug:

I think (think key word and dangerous action)...

he may be playing the odds ?!?!

I would imagine that Casey getting the death penalty even if proven guilty isn't that high (statistically)

That she's likely to get life anyway, so it's really not worth it to take that chance, when there's still MAY be a chance for an even lesser charge anyway (although I don't think that'll happen either)


:shrug:

Just my opinion

If it even makes sense

[crymeariver2006]

Question here. Why doesn't Jose plea bargain to get the death penalty off the table. I think everyone realizes that if they charge her with premeditated murder, she could face the death penalty. If she gives up the location of the body, she might only get LWOP.:shrug:

Because Casey, right now, is Baez' cash cow. As long as she remains "free", he can wheel and deal for "offers" on her "story", living the illusion of a real "high profile defense attorney".

Once she either pleads guilty to a lesser offense or is convicted, his gravy train ends.

JMO

I have wondered why he hasn't at least tried to get all the felony fraud charges plead down to misdemeanors. But upon reflection, she could receive some prison time with those and once she's in prison, he doesn't get the 6 hour visits or the brownies, and probably the movie offers will non-existent.

Poor Jose, stuck between a rock and a hard place. What to do, what to do?

[SandyO]

But she did have to follow a SCRIPT...
Guess it told her to do all these things....
Give me a break that does not even make sense.:mad:

If she thought that story ws going to fly she is living in a fantasy world,
along with her family.

WHERE is that "Script", anyway?

[desmom]

We will be aware if this has or is going to a grand jury or is that info kept secret until a decision is reached?

Info on FL Grand Jury

http://www.floridabar.org/DIVCOM/PI/RHandbook01.nsf/1119bd38ae090a748525676f0053b606/badd5b4fce22d788852569cb004cc254?OpenDocument

[WillowInFlight]

Good morning, Willow, good to read you. :seeya:

There wasn't anything new, imo. I turned it off because I couldn't take the rehash. I figured I could check the transcript later.
Thanks Joan, Maybe today will be the "day".

[marinewife5]

Because Casey, right now, is Baez' cash cow. As long as she remains "free", he can wheel and deal for "offers" on her "story", living the illusion of a real "high profile defense attorney".

Once she either pleads guilty to a lesser offense or is convicted, his gravy train ends.

JMO

I have wondered why he hasn't at least tried to get all the felony fraud charges plead down to misdemeanors. But upon reflection, she could receive some prison time with those and once she's in prison, he doesn't get the 6 hour visits or the brownies, and probably the movie offers will non-existent.

Poor Jose, stuck between a rock and a hard place. What to do, what to do?


i think he is slowly realizing that the offers coming in for books and movies will require the TRUTH. who the heck is gonna pay for more lies? i doubt this case will be as profitable as jose and the anthony's hope. jmo

[Joan Weiss]

That seems strange. That would mean any violent killer cannot be arrested before a GJ is convened? :shrug: They just wait around all cooperative and free as a bird?That's a good question. No, they can be arrested but the arraignment comes later. I'll try to find the link for ya. imo

[EGirl]

Just learn to ignore, they usually go into hiding when proven wrong, which should be very soon. hang in there.

:seeya: Mornin!

[darcie]

He's not required to "spill" anything to LE, in fact that's quite the opposite of what his obligations are as a Defense Attorney.

If more people could actually understand the function of a Defense Attorney maybe the unfounded hate wouldn't be so blinding.

Nahhh...I get it. The defense is to blow smoke, put up screens, etc, so yeah he is doing his job. I don't really consider blowing smoke a job...it should be more like defending his client, that is his job. But truthfully, I think he needs to just keep his mouth shut, same as his client SHOULD have.

MOO

[bchand]

IMO betting on when she will be arrested IS a game and pretty sick considering we are talking about a child here. I really don't care what kind of pills you think I should take, I will state my opinion without pills thanks.


Well goodie for you Grandma. I have respect for certain posters and found it interesting to hear WHEN and why they thought Casey would be arrested for the murder.

We certainly know you have no problem stating your opinion but seem to resent anyone else who is free to do the same.

[crymeariver2006]

First, OT...Can we request a new ad?? I swear I'll never be a nissan if they drive as slow as they make this board!! LOL


Okay...now with that frustration stated...

I asked this morning, and I apologize if it was answered already, I got lost among the two threads then had to get to work...
so now that I'm "working"...LOL


The cadaver dogs...
They're searching two areas with these dogs is my understanding. Without being too graphic, can anyone edumucate me on this...

These dogs pick up on two gases that the body releases after death, correct??
How long will the body let off these gases? I mean is it from rotting flesh? decaying organs?

If all that's left are skeleton remains now :( will the dogs be able to 'sense' that??

Apparently they can still scent 'cause they were called out to find Steve Fossett's remains and he disappeared over a year ago.

JMO 'cause I don't have a link, just what I heard on the news.

[barskin&co.]

Question here. Why doesn't Jose plea bargain to get the death penalty off the table. I think everyone realizes that if they charge her with premeditated murder, she could face the death penalty. If she gives up the location of the body, she might only get LWOP.:shrug:

When people talk about Caylee’s death being an accident, and "Casey panicked," I usually insist the record shows that Casey does not panic.
She sat in the room at Universal with police detectives, lying away, calmly as can be. And, I don't think she is panicking now, either. She's playing a game of chicken with LE, and she ain't gonna flinch. She gave herself that 31 head-start, and poor Caylee's little body is probably gone. She's planning on getting away scot-free, and I believe she is going to be sadly mistaken.

As a matter of fact, I am getting a psychic vision. I can hear a news commentator saying, "Casey Anthony showed no emotion as the jury found her guilty of murder...."

[Freefall]

I would guess that by now the cadaver dogs won't find much left of little Caylee. Scavengers, etc. have strewn her remains everywhere. But, if they find one single bone, could it be determined it's Caylee? I think not.

Casey needs to come clean or else she's looking at the "chair". JMVHO.

I believe In Florida you get a choice between the chair or lethal injection.

[WinnieLeigh7]

I would guess that by now the cadaver dogs won't find much left of little Caylee. Scavengers, etc. have strewn her remains everywhere. But, if they find one single bone, could it be determined it's Caylee? I think not.

Casey needs to come clean or else she's looking at the "chair". JMVHO.

Oh, I do think that a single bone most definitely could be determined as Caylee's through testing.

I just don't know how these dogs work in the sense of detecting these gases that they're trained on....and how long the body lets off these gases, etc.

[num1barb]

WHERE is that "Script", anyway?


IDK. My question about the script is:
Casey said she had to follow the script for 30 days, which ended the day before LE was called by cindy.
What were casey's instructions once the 30 days were over?
Was Caylee to be retuned to casey after 30 days? If so, why wasn't she? LE was called on day 31 according to casey.

[WillowInFlight]

:seeya: Mornin!
Morning, to your beautiful self. What do you think, active day for Casey today?

[aubrey04]

Why do I feel like we go over this 10x a day? Casey hasn't been arrested yet because they are still building a case against her. Go listen to the audio of Sheriff Beary talking about it -- he called it a "HOMICIDE CASE" in which he likened the hasty fashion people want it put together-- like a "Texas Walker Ranger" episode.. In this Caylee Anthony "homicide case" - Casey has named a "suspect" upgraded from "person of interest" as of yesterday.

It took cops over a year to arrest Melanie McGuire for the murder of her husband. It took cops years to arrest Phil Spector.. when these two were the obvious perps.

It takes time and just because it hasn't happened in 2 months (since the police were tipped off that Caylee was missing)- does NOT mean it will NOT happen. The link which discusses how an arrest will likely happen in a few weeks time - discusses how they are re-testing evidence.. which is NORMAL.. because at a trial, the defense will question how valid the test results were.. how many times they were tested, etc.

Plus, they are searching for a body.. my guess is.. if they can't find the body soon, they will arrest her and charge her without a body.

The fact that she hasn't been arrested yet means ABSOLUTELY nothing. Check up on a lot of cases.. A lot of high profile cases didn't have an instant arrest.

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[SavannahStar]

Apparently they can still scent 'cause they were called out to find Steve Fossett's remains and he disappeared over a year ago.

JMO 'cause I don't have a link, just what I heard on the news.

Good point! I saw that news as well. Glad they finally found something on that guy......

[BJames]

I respectfully disagree that 'one bone' wouldn't identify a deceased Caylee...In a 'Jane Doe' case it probably wouldn't as they wouldn't have DNA to verify it. In this case LE does have Caylee's DNA to compare, so they could rule it in or out.
Did ya hear that Casey?...one little bone...

Just my opinion of course...

[bchand]

Why do I feel like we go over this 10x a day? Casey hasn't been arrested yet because they are still building a case against her. Go listen to the audio of Sheriff Beary talking about it -- he called it a "HOMICIDE CASE" in which he likened the hasty fashion people want it put together-- like a "Texas Walker Ranger" episode.. In this Caylee Anthony "homicide case" - Casey has named a "suspect" upgraded from "person of interest" as of yesterday.

It took cops over a year to arrest Melanie McGuire for the murder of her husband. It took cops years to arrest Phil Spector.. when these two were the obvious perps.

It takes time and just because it hasn't happened in 2 months (since the police were tipped off that Caylee was missing)- does NOT mean it will NOT happen. The link which discusses how an arrest will likely happen in a few weeks time - discusses how they are re-testing evidence.. which is NORMAL.. because at a trial, the defense will question how valid the test results were.. how many times they were tested, etc.

Plus, they are searching for a body.. my guess is.. if they can't find the body soon, they will arrest her and charge her without a body.

The fact that she hasn't been arrested yet means ABSOLUTELY nothing. Check up on a lot of cases.. A lot of high profile cases didn't have an instant arrest.

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Very good post aubrey and very reassuring. Thanks.

[WillowInFlight]

He still gets the "fame" he wants though, JMO. Oh, I get your point.... if they plea bargain, no trial. Okay, got it.

No I don't think you do get it, if she plea bargains there still could and probably will be a trial.

[SavannahStar]

I am pretty sure the Anthonys would rather have Caylee than any kind of money. moo

Me too.

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[GrandmaGA]

Well goodie for you Grandma. I have respect for certain posters and found it interesting to hear WHEN and why they thought Casey would be arrested for the murder.

We certainly know you have no problem stating your opinion but seem to resent anyone else who is free to do the same.

And goodie for you that you thought it "interesting to hear WHEN and why they thought Casey would be arrested for the murder".

EVERYONE can and does state their opinion and when someone doesn't agree with the majority all hades breaks out and they are called trolls, ignore them, bla, bla, bla. Oh well enjoy the games. :rolleyes:

[aubrey04]

When people talk about Caylee’s death being an accident, and "Casey panicked," I usually insist the record shows that Casey does not panic.
She sat in the room at Universal with police detectives, lying away, calmly as can be. And, I don't think she is panicking now, either. She's playing a game of chicken with LE, and she ain't gonna flinch. She gave herself that 31 head-start, and poor Caylee's little body is probably gone. She's planning on getting away scot-free, and I believe she is going to be sadly mistaken.

As a matter of fact, I am getting a psychic vision. I can hear a news commentator saying, "Casey Anthony showed no emotion as the jury found her guilty of murder...."

Exactly. The woman wasn't panicked during the 911 call or the police interview. It was like she was talking about a trip to the mall with her friends.. The accident theory is bunk, IMO. She would have called the cops.. not load her childs body up in her trunk and dispose of it. That doesn't make a lick of sense.

[WinnieLeigh7]

When people talk about Caylee’s death being an accident, and "Casey panicked," I usually insist the record shows that Casey does not panic.
She sat in the room at Universal with police detectives, lying away, calmly as can be. And, I don't think she is panicking now, either. She's playing a game of chicken with LE, and she ain't gonna flinch. She gave herself that 31 head-start, and poor Caylee's little body is probably gone. She's planning on getting away scot-free, and I believe she is going to be sadly mistaken.

As a matter of fact, I am getting a psychic vision. I can hear a news commentator saying, "Casey Anthony showed no emotion as the jury found her guilty of murder...."

:beer: I totally agree

my vision is a lil' blurring still, but I think I can almost see her even doing the pageant wave, with her hands bound together with fuschia cuffs, as she's being escorted to her cell...

[Ms. Monk]

Why do I feel like we go over this 10x a day? Casey hasn't been arrested yet because they are still building a case against her. Go listen to the audio of Sheriff Beary talking about it -- he called it a "HOMICIDE CASE" in which he likened the hasty fashion people want it put together-- like a "Texas Walker Ranger" episode.. In this Caylee Anthony "homicide case" - Casey has named a "suspect" upgraded from "person of interest" as of yesterday.

It took cops over a year to arrest Melanie McGuire for the murder of her husband. It took cops years to arrest Phil Spector.. when these two were the obvious perps.

It takes time and just because it hasn't happened in 2 months (since the police were tipped off that Caylee was missing)- does NOT mean it will NOT happen. The link which discusses how an arrest will likely happen in a few weeks time - discusses how they are re-testing evidence.. which is NORMAL.. because at a trial, the defense will question how valid the test results were.. how many times they were tested, etc.

Plus, they are searching for a body.. my guess is.. if they can't find the body soon, they will arrest her and charge her without a body.

The fact that she hasn't been arrested yet means ABSOLUTELY nothing. Check up on a lot of cases.. A lot of high profile cases didn't have an instant arrest.

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Thanks for this post Aubrey! I think I might just print it out and tape it next to the tv the next time I watch NG and listen to the tapes of Casey and everybody else LE has interviewed. I get so frustrated and honestly AFRAID that she might get away with what she has done to Caylee. Again, thanks for the excellent post!:beer:

[Ellie]

Why do they need restraint if the scientific evidence confirms Caylee has passed on, and they have more than enough interviews with Casey to make a jurys mouth drop that shes sitting in Universal, after admitting she hasn't worked there in years, and claims she gets a call from the kidnappers on a phone Universal provided weeks ago, and she lost it and made a claim.

See, thats my problem, if I am on a jury, all that right there, I dont see how anyone can not convict her of murder, I dont even care if she gets on death row, but she needs to be locked up, not running around coordinating her sunglasses to her missing Caylee t-shirt.moo

As usual, I couldn't agree with you more. In a situation like this there comes a time when LE needs to over-step the boundaries of the 'law' and lock someone up based simply on suggestion and suspicion. What Casey's lawyer said (haven't read the article yet, just going on what I've read here) said about her having information but refusing to share it based on whether it will 'incriminate' her or not is astounding. I can't believe that guy even wants to represent her any more. And I can't believe Casey continues to sit on her rear-end on her comfy couch at home, watching re-runs and surfing the 'net (and MYSPACE for crying out loud!!!) while LE and everyone else, including hundreds of people on this board, run around and try to fit together the pieces of this puzzle. Absolutely NO conscience, that girl. None. Zip. People like that are better off in places where others like them understand... like, you know, PRISON.

There is so, so much we don't know, but from even what we do know, there is enough to formally accuse Casey of murder. Obviously nothing will be done (unless more information comes out) until her Child Neglect trial in what, NOVEMBER? I hope the judge is able to hand out a jail sentence then, so that when they do have what they need to accuse her of murder she's sitting on a cold, steel bench, peeing in front of 7 other women in a little teeny cell, and having to eat Wonder bread and applesauce for her 3 squares a day.

[WillowInFlight]

Me too.

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Count me in, I bet never in their wildest dreams they ever imagined there lives would turn into this. I go back and forth with Cindy and George, mostly George. I have a feeling Casey is a carbon copy of her mom.