Friday, 10/3/08 - Day 109 [Archive] - Page 3

marshmallow

10-03-2008, 12:59 PM

LOL

I'm not here to change your mind or the mind of anyone else, because for one thing it's impossible to remove embedded hate for the Anthonys, misinformation and rash judgments based on individual personality while absent of half of the facts.

LE has done a good job of blindly leading the followers with nothing more than intentional "leaks".

I'm confused by your attitude. You make statements, complain that no one wants to listen, and then insult instead of discussing when someone shows interest.

I'd still appreciate you elaborating on your posts today. I see that I'm not the only one interested in what you have to say.

need2no

10-03-2008, 01:00 PM

ROFL maybe I need to do a picture of me :chicken: cause all afternoon I will be writing that it isn't current LOL!!

LOL...I'm afraid you are correct, bless your heart I feel for you!

OneUp

10-03-2008, 01:00 PM

http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/BkgCases.aspx?SessionID=db89f98c-8430-466a-a54a-d1af897a2aae

I think this is interesting on Orange Couty Website when you search Casey Anthony you get this message Note: Red background indicates confidential case or party

Hmmm, when did this case become confidential?
IDK?:shrug:
When I "clicked" on 'Details', the most recent activity I see is this:

" 9/26/2008 ...CORRESPONDENCE FILED FAXED FROM STEVEN PERRY SR (9/25/08) TWO COPIES "
The last before that is the filing of the witness list on the 24th of this month.
Link:http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/Details.aspx?SessionID=89336407-6e7e-4d33-b45a-03ec9a89984f&CaseID=5960531
It was a "pop-up" so it may not POP for you all if pop-ups are blocked...I had to temp. unblock to see it.
I'm trying to check out every piece of info. there...may take a while, and i doubt anyhting interesting is apparent.
JMO.

Rayosunshine

10-03-2008, 01:01 PM

It isn't curren Ray....I"m so sorry. It was from a previous report of a cadaver dog hit.

Got it, thanks.

Joan Weiss

10-03-2008, 01:02 PM

Sorry, who is the body hunter? Is that part of LE?http://www.mahalo.com/Caylee_Anthony_Body_Hunters

barskin&co.

10-03-2008, 01:02 PM

please elaborate. I didnt ask for a lecture on other posters, I asked a direct question. If I weren't interested I would not have asked.

So yes, someone is interested ... me. And I've politely asked several times for you to add to your comments.

If you believe Caylee is alive then I'd appreciate knowing why you feel that way. My mind has not shut on this and I cannot form a changed opinion or even an opinion at all, without information to help me.

You have a chance to share your information and possibly change my mind. I'd hoped you'd reply about the case and not about the other posters.

You asked a direct question, and you got a direct..... nothing. Everyone who asks this same poster to elaborate, explain and prove her points gets that very same nothing. She makes inferences, very often slurs....and then runs away. And, don't every expect a cohesive theory. Not going to happen.

Joan Weiss

10-03-2008, 01:03 PM

The family will probably file bankruptcy. JMO.

I doubt Casey will be picked up anytime soon. She's sleeping in her nice cozy bed, minus Caylee......

Does Florida have the Son of Sam Law? Where you can't profit from movies, book deals, etc., if you are implicated in a murder case? Some states have stricken it, but not sure if all of them have. I meant to ask this the other day when ZG was filing her defamation of character suit.

(Don't step out of this thread people.... it takes you 4-ever to get back in. I was looking at the post numbers and we were only at about 700).They can't file bankruptcy. They've already done that, before this case began. They have to wait 7 years. imo

FeelinFroggy617

10-03-2008, 01:03 PM

Seems that they merged some threads and didn't change the title...sorry for the false hope guys!

Its okay Kakax!!! We are all just a little anxious and a little jumpy wanting justice for Caylee!!! Its all good, no worries!! :seeya:

martha

10-03-2008, 01:04 PM

area has supposedly been cordoned off by police tape. I sure hope they have fond something to bring this to an end. I know it will take forever for a trial tho. Just wish we could know for sure if caylee is dead or alive. Then le can move on. I just want to see whom ever harmed caylee is punished. the sooner the better. jmho:rose:

bballgrl

10-03-2008, 01:06 PM

Yeah, an entire month ago.

Oh dear.. you must have missed the apology. Just in case you did:

Kakax said she was sorry.... To top it off, she even mentioned in her initial post that the information had not been VERIFIED. Do you feel better now?

day2day

10-03-2008, 01:06 PM

ROFL maybe I need to do a picture of me :chicken: cause all afternoon I will be writing that it isn't current LOL!!

You were just tryin to wake us up!! ...:D I guess askin if Casey is still at home would be a silly question :(...

martha

10-03-2008, 01:08 PM

Its okay Kakax!!! We are all just a little anxious and a little jumpy wanting justice for Caylee!!! Its all good, no worries!! :seeya:
ITA it is ok I read things all day long on here that or not true but we or all wanting to find caylee so bad. I think le has a lot of things they have not told us. I sure hope they have. I keep praying that one day the truth will come out of what happened to caylee. jmho:rose:

Joan Weiss

10-03-2008, 01:08 PM

I don't know the current bankruptcy laws but regardless of if they can file, their creditors will not be able to get blood out of a turnip so then what happens to them?I don't know. :shrug:

The Anthonys will probably lose their home if they can't pay the mortgage, and their credit will be cut off.

I don't think Casey will care... imo

marshmallow

10-03-2008, 01:09 PM

Sadly.. I really have seen numerous posts like that.
:(

and there are numerous posts from those of us who feel they loved her dearly.

curiousD

10-03-2008, 01:10 PM

I don't know the current bankruptcy laws but regardless of if they can file, their creditors will not be able to get blood out of a turnip so then what happens to them?

Actually, I think I read somewhere that they really did rake in alot of donations in the beginning...No...its not a fact...and I do not have a link..sorry.Also, I think they got a chunk of money from ABC for pictures and such for the 20/20 show....could be just rumor..

LostinSpace

10-03-2008, 01:10 PM

Does anyone know if they are still searching the area near the airport where the woman saw a car similar to Casey's?

Lost

Joan Weiss

10-03-2008, 01:11 PM

I'm going. Hopefully the rabble rousers will be gone tonight. They have to sleep sometime...

Have a good day, friends. :seeya:

Mandysmom

10-03-2008, 01:12 PM

Sadly.. I really have seen numerous posts like that.
:(

Numerous is quite different from hundreds or thousands. I've seen some myself, but don't want to make it seem as though just everybody thinks that way.

It's sad that the actions of the Anthony family have given many people that perception.

:(

shellzbi

10-03-2008, 01:13 PM

The family will probably file bankruptcy. JMO.

I doubt Casey will be picked up anytime soon. She's sleeping in her nice cozy bed, minus Caylee......

Does Florida have the Son of Sam Law? Where you can't profit from movies, book deals, etc., if you are implicated in a murder case? Some states have stricken it, but not sure if all of them have. I meant to ask this the other day when ZG was filing her defamation of character suit.

(Don't step out of this thread people.... it takes you 4-ever to get back in. I was looking at the post numbers and we were only at about 700).

Regarding Son of Sam Law I am not sure.

Didn't at one point Casey admit to selling her daughter? I thought that was against the law
and could be another charge.

If I was LE I just keep yanking on her chain and pull her in every chance I got. IMO

Mandysmom

10-03-2008, 01:13 PM

and there are numerous posts from those of us who feel they loved her dearly.

As I have also, marshmallow.

bballgrl

10-03-2008, 01:14 PM

And still do love her dearly.

Yes, agreed. Most people do not stop loving someone just because they died. You are correct.

margaret kep

10-03-2008, 01:14 PM

My adrenaline started pumping for sure rofl!! They are talking about having the title of the thread changed right now.

It's OK Kak, we all mistakes when we are excited.:)

need2no

10-03-2008, 01:16 PM

Does anyone know if they are still searching the area near the airport where the woman saw a car similar to Casey's?

Lost

This was reported yesterday:

Investigators used cadaver dogs to search both wooded areas that are not far from where Casey Anthony lives with her parents. One is near the Amscot at Goldenrod and Highway 50 where Casey abandoned her car in late June. Investigators have searched the area more than once with cadaver dogs.

The other area is closer to Orlando International Airport, where a driver told investigators she saw a car like Casey's white Pontiac Sunfire parked in the median days after Caylee disappeared and she saw someone slight of build wearing a baseball cap and what looked like athletic wear walk out of the woods, someone she believes could have been Casey. It was odd to her because it's not a popular spot for joggers.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html

Mandysmom

10-03-2008, 01:16 PM

Just want to remind everyone of this site. It is funny but takes alittle of time to read but I highly recommend to read it. Get a cup of coffee and sit back and enjoy :read:

http://twistedmysterywriter.com/

Thanks shelbar. I'm going to go read this now.

I need something to smile about here. lol

Joan Weiss

10-03-2008, 01:17 PM

Do we know the BK thing to be a fact yet? I read here a few days ago that it was not true. Do we have a definitive answer? I'd love to know because I'm trying to figure out just what one *would or could* do if BK has so recently been filed. TIA!I believe it's in the bond hearing testimony. Sorry I don't have time to provide a link, but I'm sure you can find it in the links sticky.

Dogmatic

10-03-2008, 01:19 PM

She IS a liar. We know that. Nothing about perception.

Yes she is. I think it's also extremely safe to say that ANY family in America that truly thought their missing two year old, since turned three, was alive and well would be reaching out to find that baby via facts and proof. Casey's lies have thrown progress under the bus and if Caylee is indeed alive the family needs to get off their defensive posture, get on offense, and make strides to bring that baby home.

Otherwise, I am forced to accept the LE leaks as pretty compelling information.

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 01:19 PM

I do feel that the grandparents very much loved Caylee for what it's worth
But with that said, notice I spoke in past tense...

Although I have seen George's temper rage and I've heard some inconsistant statements...I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt at this moment. Lee, the same...

But Cindy IMO has somewhere gotten lost among the love for her daughter and as placed her granddaughter on a back burner. Do I think somewhere in the reality of things that she still loves Caylee?!?! Of course I do...
But I think she's been blinded by her love for Casey.
Is that wrong? No, Casey is her child, always her child...I would always love my child.

But what's hard for me to understand, and what I believe is hard for others to understand...is where is that unconditional love for Caylee??

Do I think Cindy can make Casey talk? Nope...
Do I think Cindy helped kill Caylee? Nope...
Do I think Cindy knows where Caylee is? Nope...

Doesn't mean she has to lie for Casey and excuse the statements Casey does make, stir rumor in the media, make outrageous claims, slander other people, and most of all disrepect lil' Caylee by enabling the ''mother'' who killed her! Which that I think Cindy does know!

Rayosunshine

10-03-2008, 01:20 PM

Can you imagine being in the grandparent's shoes, now. The prospect of losing everything you have worked for. Not knowing if you will be able to afford to buy food, medication, etc. Knowing that if you lose your job you will no longer have benefits, i.e., medical insurance. What a horror. Cindy, being an R.N., sits in a very precarious position - am sure the Fla. Bd. of Nursing has their eye on her, as concerns competence to perform duties. That alone is a big horror.

warrkat

10-03-2008, 01:21 PM

marshmallow

10-03-2008, 01:21 PM

[QUOTE=?WudScoobyDo;12225745]Hi Dunnie: I've seen hundreds if not thousands of posts that say the Anthony's never loved Caylee, or ---snipped----QUOTE]

And I will bet money you can not find a single post on her that says the Anthony's never loved Caylee.
Zero.

You just try to incite with your lies.......

actually, I've seen one or two very very rare posts that pretty much said that someone felt they didn't love her at all but those are very rare and in my opinion ..untrue. I've also seen some that said that the grandparents were the only people who loved her again, I don't think that's true.

day2day

10-03-2008, 01:21 PM

I'll try and find it later tonight. It's really piqued my curiousity now.

What are ya lookin for ratched? I might have it saved!!

joint-heir

10-03-2008, 01:22 PM

Why? No one is interested. One mention of the shamrock insignia and they all go off in childish rants about Lucky Charms.

You wonder why you continually ask and it's never answered, that's a good example, but yes, there is a LOT more to do with Caylee being alive than the Shamrock insignia which has shown up on Annie's hat, Casey's body, and Casey's car - and that's only for starters.

The only thing that is continually regurgitated here day in and day out is that Caylee is dead, Casey is a so and so and the Anthonys never loved Caylee.

That isn't "discussion", it's mindless repetition.

Convince us of your theory...ty

Dogmatic

10-03-2008, 01:23 PM

and there are numerous posts from those of us who feel they loved her dearly.

I've known so many people in my life who verbally state that they love their children. However, when it comes to sacrificing and/or giving up comforts for those that they love, those same people fail to step up to the plate and act in selfish, self serving ways.

So I guess what I am saying is: To simply love a child is not enough. One has to be willing to do much more than just love them.

day2day

10-03-2008, 01:24 PM

When John Couey hid little Jessie in his trailer, his relatives, imo, lied for him. They lied to police who tried to quesion them, but couldn't be charged with anything because in Florida, there's no law against lying to police.

Soooooo, just thinking, would that apply to the Anthonys, too? as long as they didn't DO anything to Caylee, of course. Unless that law has been changed by now, they can lie for Casey until they are blue in the face, right?

Warrkat..
I am thrilled to hear you got "great" news today! You are blessed.
And yes-I remember "Couey's umm family!" they also lied for him. I do see a difference here. I could be wrong. JMO:shrug:

Rayosunshine

10-03-2008, 01:28 PM

I just hurried over here because of a post on Caseys fb, that says dogs have hit on a spot near the airport.

Interesting. Same thing posted here, but it was done so accidently - it was news that originated 1 month ago, not recent.

Dogmatic

10-03-2008, 01:28 PM

I'm ok exploring the gang possibility. Casey is weak. She would be a prime candidate for such.

Dogmatic

10-03-2008, 01:29 PM

And they've been doing just that very thing. :)

Great! Where is Caylee?

summer4meplz

10-03-2008, 01:30 PM

Not necessarily Grandma - and thank God for that!

I don't think at all that this board is reflective of most people on the real, outside world.

I realize I'm many pages behind....but your statement was so curious to me.....about the REAL, OUTSIDE world.....so are you saying when you come here this is like a fantasy place to you that you can play with inside yourself? just wondering.....cuz when I come in here, I'm still me.....I've met a couple of other posters from here in the REAL OUTSIDE world and they are just them.....

Does anyone else feel they are just role playing in here....that this message board is in anyway, not real?

I would be willing to bet money, or candy bars, or anything you want, that with the exception of a very very few.....the regular posters in here are just regular people with a common interest....sometimes there are disagreements...which makes it interesting...it's the belittling that really turns ppl off...i'm sure you know that, and i'm equally sure that's why you do it.....thanks for the insight....

day2day

10-03-2008, 01:30 PM

Not near as much as they love Casey.

Evidently.

Great post LS. I believe the Anthony's "love" Caylee-in their "special" way. That being said-it is painfully obvious they love Casey more. I can't understand it...maybe i'm not sposed to!!

jmo

warrkat

10-03-2008, 01:30 PM

I just hurried over here because of a post on Caseys fb, that says dogs have hit on a spot near the airport.

It was an old story, posted by mistake.

Rayosunshine

10-03-2008, 01:32 PM

I'm ok exploring the gang possibility. Casey is weak. She would be a prime candidate for such.

It would give her an identity, a false sense of self. But, we cannot discuss the gang possibility here, from what I have read.

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 01:33 PM

I watched my 3 year old grand daughter sleeping last night. Every time I look at her I think of Caylee and feel such sympathy for the Anthony's... I can't even imagine their pain. Sure, they didn't do everything right, but hindsight is 20-20. I can only pray I'm never in their shoes.

:rose:

Compassionate post. :rose:

marshmallow

10-03-2008, 01:35 PM

I'm ok exploring the gang possibility. Casey is weak. She would be a prime candidate for such.

I'm willing to explore any possibility that would lead to a live Caylee

margaret kep

10-03-2008, 01:35 PM

She will be arrested AFTER the election during Nancy Grace, because that's convenient, the media having already been tipped of will alert the protesters and lookie loos, Cindy and Casey will be wearing matching tops and haircuts, with rosary beads blessed by the pope dangling from their necks, Lenny will give comments as Brother Craig almost get an interview with someone........we will see through the Anthonys glass front door as they lock the handcuffs, because thats just good TV......they will do the perp walk with Identical twin female cops holding each of Caseys arms walking in slowest mode possibly.......they will put here in the car as the crowd screams BABY KILLER......then Cindy yells back YES, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE HER A MURDERER......

The nation will be captivated and forget who won the presidency and after much thought Americans will come to the conclusion it really does not matter. So drawing straws will be the new mode of the American Election from that day forward. History will be made and other countries will say what the heck and do the same.

I having won the poll here and will collect all the miniature candy bars owed to me, sell them before they melt and spend my days watching the cliff divers in Acapulco with of course my laptop by my side for the trial and your comments...all the while feasting on fish tacos.

Sorry I could not help myself......I just love chocolate thats all!

Did you put something in those chocolates??:D

day2day

10-03-2008, 01:35 PM

Hey D2D! I'm looking to see if it is fact that the A's filed for bankruptcy in the last 7-10 years. Do you remember? TIA! :seeya:

I had heard that it was true. Savannah did some research and says it is not. (thanks SS).
Sending you a pm!!
:seeya:

spiritwolf46

10-03-2008, 01:35 PM

JUST jumping on here for a few and was wondering if there is any news or anything that I missed?

TIA! :seeya:

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 01:35 PM

snipping to address.

I'll tell you one thing... if my daughter let anything happen to my grand daughter, I would be in jail for murder! JMO. And I wouldn't care.

See, that's the dichotomy here. Cindy, IMO, is covering for Casey, when I probably would have killed Casey myself. I don't believe for one minute that Cindy doesn't think Casey killed Caylee. JMO.

I would have too
I think so too
Me either

LOL

I was really trying to say that on my best behavior :tongue:

greylover

10-03-2008, 01:37 PM

I've been so busy at work this week I haven't been reading as avidly as I usually do, but I've been following the case on NG.

The thought that keeps drifting through my mind more and more is this:

Casey will be charged in this case, no doubt in my mind. Jose Baez has been saying all along that we don't know the whole story - only Casey knows and he knows, and that when we hear the story, we will understand why she never told LE.

So, let's say court day arrives - Baez makes his opening statement, and either hints at what Casey told him or tells it outright.

How will he be able to back this story up? Will Casey testify???!! NO WAY she will testify. Will he bring on friends/witnesses to testify on her behalf???!! NO WAY there is anyone left that will be able to confirm her "story" because if there was anyone, LE would have found them by now.

I'm no Casey supporter, but I think Baez is doing her a great disservice. He is gambling that he will be able to present a case where the jury believes her. So, whatever she is charged with, she is gambling that she will be able to convince the jurors of her story.

Would anyone here gamble on that? I have a hard time believing that Baez hasn't allowed her to negotiate for lesser charges in exchange for telling what she knows - i.e., immunity, because I think she is going to get the maximum for whatever the charges are.

And yes, I know we don't know "her side" of the story yet, but I just feel she is taking a huge gamble. Maybe she still hasn't realized that in this situation, her lies won't just be swept under the rug.

jmo

kakax

10-03-2008, 01:37 PM

Interesting. Same thing posted here, but it was done so accidently - it was news that originated 1 month ago, not recent.

I think the problem is....the other message board merged two threads about searches and left the title that made it seem like there were cadaver dog hits today. So I'm sure there were others that were confused.

curiousD

10-03-2008, 01:38 PM

I realize I'm many pages behind....but your statement was so curious to me.....about the REAL, OUTSIDE world.....so are you saying when you come here this is like a fantasy place to you that you can play with inside yourself? just wondering.....cuz when I come in here, I'm still me.....I've met a couple of other posters from here in the REAL OUTSIDE world and they are just them.....

Does anyone else feel they are just role playing in here....that this message board is in anyway, not real?

I would be willing to bet money, or candy bars, or anything you want, that with the exception of a very very few.....the regular posters in here are just regular people with a common interest....sometimes there are disagreements...which makes it interesting...it's the belittling that really turns ppl off...i'm sure you know that, and i'm equally sure that's why you do it.....thanks for the insight....

yep....Im just a regular person..a nurse in "real life" Icome here to see if theres anything new with the case.:rose:

spiritwolf46

10-03-2008, 01:39 PM

That "news" is from a month ago.

I had heard about the other hits, but not this particular one. From a month ago you say? Would you, by any chance, have a link to that so I may read it?

I thank you EVER so much!

desmom

10-03-2008, 01:39 PM

How long would Casey have continued with the "Caylee is with the Nanny"? She got through the 4th of July holiday...barely. Cindy went to Universal looking for her and Cindy sent Lee out looking for her. How was she going to explain Caylee's birthday? Christmas?

George said Casey had a new group of friends. Did Casey cut ties with the old friends so they would not ask about Caylee? The new friends did not have a lot of contact with Caylee, so would they ask about her as much as the old friends?

Casey ripping off Amy confuses the heck out of me. Casey had to know Amy would eventually find out her account had a zero balance. Did she think the bank would reimburse Amy and end of story? She told Tony she did as a back up plan. That does not make any sense because she was stealing the money in cash, but in mdse. If she was going to return the mdse for cash, wouldn't she have done that before Amy returned from her vacation?

Then the stories about getting George & Cindy's house. What the heck was that all about? Did she have plans of getting them out? Was it speculation or did I read Cindy considered putting the house in Casey's name because of G & C's financial problems? Would that be fraud? If that is true, could Casey legally evict her parents from the house?

just thinking out loud and moo

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 01:40 PM

Do we know the BK thing to be a fact yet? I read here a few days ago that it was not true. Do we have a definitive answer? I'd love to know because I'm trying to figure out just what one *would or could* do if BK has so recently been filed. TIA!

The BK thing is NOT true. The Anthonys have never filed BK in FL. I looked this up a weekend or so ago. If anyone wants verification, PM me and I'll give them the link where to look it up. It is free. (Don't have the link with me, though, it's at home so it would have to be tonight or tomorrow.)

Repeat: The Anthonys never filed BK in the state of FL.

warrkat

10-03-2008, 01:40 PM

Hi Warkat! I wanted to congratulate you on your renewed health! Good goin' girl! :rose:

About the family members being charged; I also think of the Petersons (as in Scott). Remember it was obvious the mom diverted funds for Scotty's brief flight to the border, he had his brother's ID's, the suspect purchase of the car he was in and other "irregularities" that made it pretty obvious his family was helping him escape justice, yet nothing was ever charged. Does LE often seem to give some latitude to families in these situations maybe just because they're so tragic they give everyone a little leeway for temporary "illegalities"?

Thank you.

I had forgotten about the Petersons. They at least offered explanations for how he got the car and the money, and nobody could prove that they were lying. (However, I do agree with you.... their explanations were not very believable.)
It seems so much worse to me what Couey's family did, because when they were first questioned, I believe that Jessie was still alive, and could have been rescued. I suppose that Cindy and George making excuses for Casey couldn't have changed whether Caylee survived, so maybe it's more like the Peterson case than the Lunsford case.

curiousD

10-03-2008, 01:41 PM

My bad.

I am shocked my the words from Baez. Why doesn't he want Casey to tell the truth?

I think (again my opinion) that JB is just a blabbermouth who doesnt think before he opens his trap..I dont think he knows any more than LE does. I dont think Casey told him anything significant.hammer

curiousD

10-03-2008, 01:43 PM

desmom

10-03-2008, 01:44 PM

I just hurried over here because of a post on Caseys fb, that says dogs have hit on a spot near the airport.

Thanks for the info.

Please keep us posted. TIA

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 01:45 PM

JUST jumping on here for a few and was wondering if there is any news or anything that I missed?

TIA! :seeya:

hhmm let's see, Casey joined a prison Lucky charms gang which had secret missions located in the woods by the airport, which at one point she was spotted retreating from (<~~that part is true, at least speculation, btw)...someone mistakenly pulled out their "anthony" calander vs. the "REAL OUTSIDE" world calander and thought that the dog hit beside the airport, but in reality this was a mistake a month ago
What else...oh, it's question whether the grandparents, ever loved, just loved or now loves Caylee...

:) K?

curiousD

10-03-2008, 01:45 PM

I notice that too as I'm reading. Shamrocks aren't used in gangs either. Not it in the real world they aren't.

in my opinion only and I did the research

Good point..EVERYTHING isnt sinister. Some things just are what they are. some like to dig too deep.

tiny paw-prints

10-03-2008, 01:49 PM

Yeah, an entire month ago.

Whoa! The cadaver dogs found something a month ago?

If true, it takes about 30 days for most lab test results.

I bet they found something significant.

ilovemylife

10-03-2008, 01:50 PM

Over the yrs I have come to realize- surprisingly- that some ppl do go on boards and are just FOS about everything- a made-up fantasy life, etc. I don't think its very many, but I wonder WHY and HOW they keep track of all the lies and pretending? Isn't life complex enough? In my world when we want to play games, we get out Monopoly or Scrabble.
I always think of the IS board as a pretty good cross section of real people, but the people here are so special. Whether its the common bond of loving true crime and mystery, I dunno. You know we ain't normal in that respect, many of us complain we have nobody to share this w/ in our lives but each other here. We definately are smarter than the average bear when it comes to facts of cases, etc. There are people who post here that are so intelligent I almost feel its an honor if they reply to one of my posts.

My son in law is on a message board for paint-ball fighting, those guns. Hes hot and heavy like me- banging away about paintball fighting. So, to each his own.

Some of us are homebound, sick, stay at home moms, retired....the rest catch up after work in their evenings...I can't think of a more healthy past-time. IMO. Thats why I don't get cluttering it all up with lies.
anyway thats way more than my 2 cents and In the words of Rodney King- Can't we all get along?
So OT.....
:rose:love you guys.....

FWIW, I feel VERY strongly that Caseys time is running out- like within the week. Hope I am right. All good things come to those who wait... she will be getting hers, we just have to be patient and not kill each other in the meantime.

I thought that was very nicely put!

Cury-us Coyote

10-03-2008, 01:50 PM

This was reported yesterday:

Investigators used cadaver dogs to search both wooded areas that are not far from where Casey Anthony lives with her parents. One is near the Amscot at Goldenrod and Highway 50 where Casey abandoned her car in late June. Investigators have searched the area more than once with cadaver dogs.

The other area is closer to Orlando International Airport, where a driver told investigators she saw a car like Casey's white Pontiac Sunfire parked in the median days after Caylee disappeared and she saw someone slight of build wearing a baseball cap and what looked like athletic wear walk out of the woods, someone she believes could have been Casey. It was odd to her because it's not a popular spot for joggers.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html

Any local reporting - Was K-9 Gerus involved with yesterday’s wooded area search? TIA

kakax

10-03-2008, 01:51 PM

Whoa! The cadaver dogs found something a month ago?

If true, it takes about 30 days for most lab test results.

I bet they found something significant.

At that time, the bones found were animal bones. I think all of the posts related to cadaver dog hits are stemming from a message board that had merged two searching threads, leaving the title that Cadaver dogs hit today when in actuality that thread was not today...it was a month ago.

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 01:51 PM

Hopefully Joan will take note of this.

Thanks Savannah.

I think Joan mentioned the bond hearing. Now the Anthonys (I've heard) have filed BK in the past. I suspect that was before they moved to FL, when they were in OH. That could be checked also, but if she said it in the bond hearing, no reason to check really. BK courts are Federal. There is a site you can go on (since BK is public record) to check for anyone filing BK, as long as you know where they lived and can therefore ascertain what BK District court they would have filed in.

How I happened to research it was actually the rumor that Cindy had filed in April of 2008. She did not. Nor ANYTIME while living in FL.

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 01:51 PM

aaawwwwwwwwwww

"Flintstone..."

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

{{{{{{{{{{{{Hugz}}}}}}}}}}}}

TxLady2

10-03-2008, 01:52 PM

Umm, Caylee is THREE, not two, and no, he didn't just admit that Casey knows where Caylee's dead body is.

Defense Attorneys are there to protect the rights of their client, just as you would need protection too, particularly true in this case when Baez believes that LE is only interested in prosecuting Casey for Caylee's disappearance and nothing more.

It's really amazing that so many here aren't familiar with the duty of Defense Attorneys.

Uh...no... if Caylee died sometime before July 15, she never made it to 3 years old. Sorry... but they don't get older once they're dead. I don't mean this sarcastically... just saying what should be obvious.

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 01:52 PM

I guess bk stands for Bankruptcy. For those of us who aren't always able to post. LOL.

So, the Anthony's never filed bk?

:shrug:

Yes, "BK" is bankruptcy.

They never filed while living in FL.

agent99

10-03-2008, 01:53 PM

I don't think I can post links here, but ABC Action News is currently reporting that there are active cadaver dog searches going on today. Maybe the news is accurate.

day2day

10-03-2008, 01:54 PM

Hopefully Joan will take note of this.

Thanks Savannah.

While they did NOT file bankruptcy -George has in fact has a couple of civil cases at the OC site. jmo

kakax

10-03-2008, 01:54 PM

Is that what they have been breaking into Headline News to talk about? My mom was her almost 2 hrs and we had the volume turned down. Wouldn't that be something? She could be eatin' bologna by dinnertime tonight.

:rose:caylee

The house just passed the bailout bill. I bet that is what the breaking news is.

There were no hits by the cadaver dogs today!!

kakax

10-03-2008, 01:55 PM

Because the truth will not set Casey free.

As Baez implies... if Casey tells what she knows... it will be enough to 'send Casey away for the rest of her life.'

Baez is correct.

He is correct....and he is a moron for even opening his mouth.

warrkat

10-03-2008, 01:57 PM

I don't think I can post links here, but ABC Action News is currently reporting that there are active cadaver dog searches going on today. Maybe the news is accurate.

I just checked two tv stations in that area, and couldn't find anything. Will keep looking.

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 01:57 PM

Im not sure they have a discharged bk in the state of FL; yet. BK isnt final until the discharge date. It is very odd that nothing is in georges name so I would have to say there is something up with that.
Actually I thought it was rick who said she was in IN bk, meaning in the process of.

*snipped*

Jenny, the minute you FILE BK it is on record on this site I go on. No waiting until discharged. "In the process" would mean that you have filed. If you are just THINKING of filing, you are not yet in the process. Therefore if they were IN THE PROCESS, I would have seen it.

They have not filed, nor are they "in the process" of BK in the State of Florida. It's that simple.

You want a link so you can look yourself? PM me.

marshmallow

10-03-2008, 01:58 PM

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=afab38e7-3f90-47d8-a02a-c89a8e18c727

from the link:
ORANGE COUNTY, FL -- Two areas in east Orange County are being combed by deputies and cadaver dogs in the search for Caylee Anthony, according to Orlando station WFTV.

The wooded areas are not far from Casey Anthony's home. One is near where her car was found abandoned in June. The other is near Orlando International Airport. A motorist told detectives she saw a car similar to Casey's parked there shortly after Caylee disappeared. She also said she saw someone similar in build to Casey walking out of the woods.

Loves2Read

10-03-2008, 01:58 PM

I realize I'm many pages behind....but your statement was so curious to me.....about the REAL, OUTSIDE world.....so are you saying when you come here this is like a fantasy place to you that you can play with inside yourself? just wondering.....cuz when I come in here, I'm still me.....I've met a couple of other posters from here in the REAL OUTSIDE world and they are just them.....

Does anyone else feel they are just role playing in here....that this message board is in anyway, not real?

I would be willing to bet money, or candy bars, or anything you want, that with the exception of a very very few.....the regular posters in here are just regular people with a common interest....sometimes there are disagreements...which makes it interesting...it's the belittling that really turns ppl off...i'm sure you know that, and i'm equally sure that's why you do it.....thanks for the insight....

The poster you responded to seems to (IMO) point the finger at everyone for being hateful and childish blah blah blah just to anger people stir things up and keep everything OFF TOPIC just like the post you responded to was OFF TOPIC. My advise is do not quote this poster and keep your focus on Caylee.

For instance this woman that has come forward to say that she believes she spotted Casey coming out of the woods near the airport back in June. I am wondering why, with all of the publicity, she didn't come forward sooner?

spiritwolf46

10-03-2008, 01:59 PM

Thanks to posters that have responded to the fb post.

Someone is saying that 2 dogs hit on a spot and that bloggers are watching digging at the airport.

Apologize if this is currently incorrect.

Thank you very much! Kinda goes along with the NG show last night with the witness seeing someone looking like Casey coming out of the woods there, huh?

We will have to see if it is true or not now.

Thank again! :seeya:

taylor63

10-03-2008, 02:00 PM

Good Morning n/t and all, Her atty just admitted she has increminating evidence to hide, et al guilty of whatever the charges may be. JMHO

When and if[God willing] this case ever goes to trial,can the prosecutor use the defense attorneys own words to show evidence of guilt?

OneUp

10-03-2008, 02:02 PM

Thanks for pointing out what a moron I am. My pop ups were blocked. I guess I'm so desperate for info that I thought something was up.LOL, I never thought anything negative of you...I just thought maybe it changed, or maybe I was missing something! That happens to me alot...I miss the big picture scrutinizing the details.
JMO....

TxLady2

10-03-2008, 02:03 PM

No I was confused...I didn't check the time of the post.....please forgive me...ugh.

It was 09-03-2008, 06:05 PM

It was a top link so I clicked on it and read the first post and didn't check the time.

Hi... I jumped on that thread early this morning too! Read down a few posts then discovered it was an old thread. Had to go to the last page, to see that somebody bumped it up. Bummer!
Not gonna beat ya! Coulda happened to any of us! ;)

OneUp

10-03-2008, 02:04 PM

Skip & scroll. :)

Has Baez made anymore inane comments yet?Probably...the bigger qeustion is, Have any of them been published?
JMO.
...I'm waiting with baited breathe to hear his next brilliant move!

MichelleP

10-03-2008, 02:04 PM

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life"

Baez' words.

It its what it is.

Not one thing about the welfare of Caylee.

Zero. Zilch. Nada.

The thing I don't understand is this imo he makes her look guilty just by saying that and if she knows where Caylee is and if Caylee is really alive why would she get life?

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 02:05 PM

True2Blues

10-03-2008, 02:06 PM

Because the truth will not set Casey free.

As Baez implies... if Casey tells what she knows... it will be enough to 'send Casey away for the rest of her life.'

Baez is correct.

Yes indeed.

warrkat

10-03-2008, 02:06 PM

I am scanning tv like a crazy person. Ever since mom left, nothing about this case.:rolleyes:

I am trying to be patient.

Just in case, Casey, I think you should just go ahead and run right now....you could make it....give it a try...dare you.....
(meet me @ Fusian about 9pm.):chicken:

Run, Forrest!

Only wftv so far, and that's already posted.

True2Blues

10-03-2008, 02:08 PM

The thing I don't understand is this imo he makes her look guilty just by saying that and if she knows where Caylee is and if Caylee is really alive why would she get life?

She wouldn't, IF Caylee was alive.

day2day

10-03-2008, 02:09 PM

I am scanning tv like a crazy person. Ever since mom left, nothing about this case.:rolleyes:

I am trying to be patient.

Just in case, Casey, I think you should just go ahead and run right now....you could make it....give it a try...dare you.....
(meet me @ Fusian about 9pm.):chicken:

I think we should call your mama NOW! We need some news today-or it is going to be a LONG weekend. And heck yea Case...meet us at fusion and we will buy you a few drinks!!

:chicken:

jmo

TxLady2

10-03-2008, 02:10 PM

I highly doubt you've seen hundreds or thousands of posts saying the Anthonys never loved Caylee.

From what I've seen, most people myself included, believe they loved her very much.

However, when they stopped their pursuit of the truth and went into protecting Casey mode, I along with others, began to question the actions of the family.

I don't doubt they loved Caylee, but as Cindy said herself, there is nothing she can do about it. She began to protect her daughter just as she has done for years.

:(

Maybe not here, but combined with a few other boards, the hate for the family is very prominent. Very few have any compassion for them whatsoever, and most claim they've thrown Caylee under the bus... it's all about Casey now. I have to agree... since this all began, there are probably thousands of posts like that.... not only here though.
As a matter of fact.. it's not as prevalent here as it is in at least two other places that I read on.

summer4meplz

10-03-2008, 02:14 PM

Right Dunnie, BK = Bankruptcy, and no, the Anthonys have never filed in the state of Florida.

What about the state of Ohio?

desmom

10-03-2008, 02:14 PM

At that time, the bones found were animal bones. I think all of the posts related to cadaver dog hits are stemming from a message board that had merged two searching threads, leaving the title that Cadaver dogs hit today when in actuality that thread was not today...it was a month ago.

I think those bones were found in Blanchard Park. ..... I think.

TxLady2

10-03-2008, 02:15 PM

I "heard" it was a rumor. ABC never offered up that money. JMO.

I'm not sure if they received money from ABC or not. But I know they don't pay for interviews. However... networks do pay for rights to videos and such.. which the Anthonys provided for the interview. So they could have got a few thousand for those. I don't know for a fact, tho.

kakax

10-03-2008, 02:18 PM

Agreed.

Talk about prejudicing potential jurors.

Baez did a fine job of that with his statement.

It's quite unbelievable he said what he did. If I were Casey, I'd give him the boot...but could this be used after a conviction as evidence of ineffective counsel?

spageddy

10-03-2008, 02:21 PM

JUST jumping on here for a few and was wondering if there is any news or anything that I missed?

TIA! :seeya:

Well, Warrkat has some Very Good News which I'm very happy to hear. I'm sure we all are.:rose:
But as far as Caylee?...just waiting for the arrest I guess.:shrug:

summer4meplz

10-03-2008, 02:23 PM

kakax

10-03-2008, 02:23 PM

I doubt it.

Baez is probably setting himself up for removal from this case. Either quitting or getting fired.

When that happens, Casey will have more time to prepare for trial while her new attorney becomes familiar with her case.

That does seem more likely. I just can't imagine Baez wanting to pull away from this high profile case...I think he sees it as his ticket to fame. Getting fired sounds more like it LOL!

warrkat

10-03-2008, 02:24 PM

I jumped back on as someone was congrat'ing warrkat. what happened?

No cancer cells showed on my scans last week. No more doctors until January!

Loves2Read

10-03-2008, 02:25 PM

It's quite unbelievable he said what he did. If I were Casey, I'd give him the boot...but could this be used after a conviction as evidence of ineffective counsel?

I think she might have a tough time using the ineffective counsel thing because of the things he said before she was even charged with murder. The argument might be that they were not even in the midst of a trial concerning her charges to this point so nothing would have been in the way of her finding more effective council. IMO

tiny paw-prints

10-03-2008, 02:26 PM

Does anyone know if Casey purchased a "large container" and charged it on Cindy's JCPenney card?

Loves2Read

10-03-2008, 02:26 PM

summer4meplz

10-03-2008, 02:27 PM

...and with her brownies.

I hate it that they postpone stuff like this w/ legal maneuvers, ala Phil Spector. I cannot endure a 4 year wait for justice in this case.

hopefully casey will be locked up awaiting trial instead of sitting in a castle....:cuss:

TxLady2

10-03-2008, 02:28 PM

Hi Warkat! I wanted to congratulate you on your renewed health! Good goin' girl! :rose:

About the family members being charged; I also think of the Petersons (as in Scott). Remember it was obvious the mom diverted funds for Scotty's brief flight to the border, he had his brother's ID's, the suspect purchase of the car he was in and other "irregularities" that made it pretty obvious his family was helping him escape justice, yet nothing was ever charged. Does LE often seem to give some latitude to families in these situations maybe just because they're so tragic they give everyone a little leeway for temporary "illegalities"?

Yes, most of the time they do, in my experience. Everything I've seen or read from LE states that the Anthonys have been cooperative, and some even say to pray for them, that they are going through hell right now. So as far as charging them with obstructing justice or just plain lying, I don't think that will happen. I believe LE would not impose any more hardship on them at this point. I could be wrong, but it's just my thoughts. Cindy can't accept that they have lost Caylee.. she holds out hope that Caylee will be found alive, which explains her believing what Casey has said. I do think she went a little too far with some of her statements, such as suggesting Jesse was involved and that he had a violent temper. But aside from supporting Casey's lies.. maybe she feels she has no choice right now. If she openly and publicly admitted that Caylee is gone forever... it's like admitting Casey's guilt. And she won't do that. As for George, I think he is already a broken man, and he can't stand up against Cindy.

kakax

10-03-2008, 02:28 PM

Praise the Lord!

:)
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happy tears:rose:

Hallelujah, war!! I'm so happy for you! I know you are feeling very blessed! :rose:

bballgrl

10-03-2008, 02:29 PM

Does anyone know if Casey purchased a "large container" and charged it on Cindy's JCPenney card?

A large container of what? I don't know if JCP selling "containers" :shrug:

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 02:30 PM

iirc....rick is the one that mentioned the bankrupty and that is one of the reasons they moved to florida....fresh start and all that.....i've noticed several ppl asking about the ohio...and as usual....no answer from the poster.....

Which poster? If you mean me (I did the research on the FL BK issue), I said upthread I didn't bother to check OH because I thought that wasn't really questioned. I only began looking because of the rumor that they filed in April 2008.

Do you know what city they lived in, in Ohio? If I can ascertain which Ohio district that is in the Federal BK courts, I will gladly look it up and report back. But after work. I don't have the link with me.

warrkat

10-03-2008, 02:31 PM

Praise the Lord!

:)
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happy tears:rose:

Ain't He just a real good God? I cried a LOT of happy tears on the way home yesterday.

And to keep from using up a lot of our space here, thank you ALL for your good wishes and for sharing my happiness today. I really appreciate it.

EGirl

10-03-2008, 02:31 PM

hopefully casey will be locked up awaiting trial instead of sitting in a castle....:cuss:
Yes, hopefully she will already be serving time for the fraud charges.

summer4meplz

10-03-2008, 02:31 PM

I asked this early this morning and got no reply so I will ask again. Does anyone know where Amy lives. I have 232 Glenwood Drive, but google earth gives me three choices N or S in Orlando or Winterpark. I'm working on pings and don't have Amy's address. TIA

it's not that you're being ignored, i guess no one knows.....she had been out of town for 6 months.....she sleeps on ricardo's couch....she had mail out at the oveida address (?) she had a change of mail for casey's house ....

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 02:32 PM

Yes, most of the time they do, in my experience. Everything I've seen or read from LE states that the Anthonys have been cooperative, and some even say to pray for them, that they are going through hell right now. So as far as charging them with obstructing justice or just plain lying, I don't think that will happen. I believe LE would not impose any more hardship on them at this point. I could be wrong, but it's just my thoughts. Cindy can't accept that they have lost Caylee.. she holds out hope that Caylee will be found alive, which explains her believing what Casey has said. I do think she went a little too far with some of her statements, such as suggesting Jesse was involved and that he had a violent temper. But aside from supporting Casey's lies.. maybe she feels she has no choice right now. If she openly and publicly admitted that Caylee is gone forever... it's like admitting Casey's guilt. And she won't do that. As for George, I think he is already a broken man, and he can't stand up against Cindy.

PERFECT. :beer:

:rose:

Cury-us Coyote

10-03-2008, 02:34 PM

It's quite unbelievable he said what he did. If I were Casey, I'd give him the boot...but could this be used after a conviction as evidence of ineffective counsel?

IF you listen to Baez's statement (before it is filtered by a reporter), IIRC Baez said speaking is not helpful to Casey. IMO a slight difference between what the reporter stated and what Baez actually said. Seems Baez has forgotten the only statements would come from his PR team.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17610784/index.html

toadii

10-03-2008, 02:34 PM

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html
if this works this will be my first link :)

summer4meplz

10-03-2008, 02:34 PM

Which poster? If you mean me (I did the research on the FL BK issue), I said upthread I didn't bother to check OH because I thought that wasn't really questioned. I only began looking because of the rumor that they filed in April 2008.

Do you know what city they lived in, in Ohio? If I can ascertain which Ohio district that is in the Federal BK courts, I will gladly look it up and report back. But after work. I don't have the link with me.

not you, dg was the first time i saw the post about the anthonys not filing bankruptcy in the state of florida.....i was responding to her when i asked about ohio.....several ppl did....and she didn't respond ....which is very normal for her, I've noticed...but, if she was quoting you, then could you check in the state of ohio? tia

day2day

10-03-2008, 02:35 PM

Like a big rubbermaid container, which could be buried? (if she wasn't too lazy to dig the hole big enough...)
She could have picked one up @ Target too.

Yep target would sell them. And i'm not real sure that Casey would want to "waste" so much time...yanno she had parties to go to!:rolleyes:

bballgrl

10-03-2008, 02:37 PM

will she be allowed to sit at home on house arrest waiting for new atty to play catch-up, etc? will that affect the November 5 pretrial date?
I think it would depend on the charges. If she is charged for Murder.. she would have to post bail again.. New charges, new bail. That is, if the judge even allows bail on murder charges :D

day2day

10-03-2008, 02:37 PM

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html
if this works this will be my first link :)

Great job!! :seeya:

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 02:38 PM

not you, dg was the first time i saw the post about the anthonys not filing bankruptcy in the state of florida.....i was responding to her when i asked about ohio.....several ppl did....and she didn't respond ....which is very normal for her, I've noticed...but, if she was quoting you, then could you check in the state of ohio? tia

I will do that when I get home tonight.

Oopsie: ETA: does ANYONE know the city they lived in, in Ohio. Makes searching through BK records MUCH easier.

barskin&co.

10-03-2008, 02:40 PM

No cancer cells showed on my scans last week. No more doctors until January!

Let me add that I also think that is wonderful news.

To your continued good health! :beer: (root beer)

Albini

10-03-2008, 02:43 PM

Good morning, everyone.

I have good news this morning. Last week, I had a follow-up CT scan and PET scan to compare with the original ones when I started my chemo. I'M CLEAR! Don't have to go back to the doctor until January.
These last few weeks, especially, have been very hard. I tolerated the treatment pretty well, but was very tired almost all of the time. This morning, I feel ready to "lick" the world.

So, with all this energy, maybe I'd better head for Orlando, and organize a search for a precious little girl. Anyone else want to go? Fair warning...... you won't be able to keep up with me.

:rose: We love you, precious child.

Amazing, Congrats sweetie :rose:

warrkat

10-03-2008, 02:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by SavannahStar
Which poster? If you mean me (I did the research on the FL BK issue), I said upthread I didn't bother to check OH because I thought that wasn't really questioned. I only began looking because of the rumor that they filed in April 2008.

Do you know what city they lived in, in Ohio? If I can ascertain which Ohio district that is in the Federal BK courts, I will gladly look it up and report back. But after work. I don't have the link with me.

George worked for the sheriff's dept. in Trumbull County. Try Youngstown maybe, or Warren. Most of the time, when I look for Ohio info, the court records are on the county websites.... doesn't matter which city.

TxLady2

10-03-2008, 02:45 PM

Loves2Read

10-03-2008, 02:45 PM

will she be allowed to sit at home on house arrest waiting for new atty to play catch-up, etc? will that affect the November 5 pretrial date?

My guess would be that she would still be at home if the charges remain the same. For them to revoke her bond she would have to do something wrong or be charged with additional charges.

num1barb

10-03-2008, 02:48 PM

LINK now please?

good luck with that :D

desmom

10-03-2008, 02:49 PM

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html
if this works this will be my first link :)

:beer: Sweet Tea

It works~congrats!

babblefishie

10-03-2008, 02:50 PM

Gang members drink water? Cynthia drinks water. Cynthia is a gang member..... :eek:

Who knew???

lol

What's even scarier is think of ALL of Ireland! Tons of shamrocks and rosaries! UH OH! A nation of gang members....

:biggrin:

day2day

10-03-2008, 02:50 PM

Yeah, just throw a few drinkie poos in the mix... she`ll be a talking. Heck Im sure the whole bunch of them could use a drink or 10!......Lets start with Baez then we will be home free.......We`ll solve it in an hour tops.
We`d be Good Time....

I really believe that she would talk-if she had a few drinks in her. JB spews the truth without the liquor LOL. He is an amazing piece of work i tell ya!!

I wonder how Casey is spending her last few days of freedom?! lots of myspace and facebook posts...a mani/pedi! Tryin on prison uniforms!?
:D

Loves2Read

10-03-2008, 02:50 PM

When Casey is charged with murder one, she won't have any chance to flee.

There will be no bond.

That is a very good point. When and if she has murder one charges placed on her she will be in jail with out the chance of a bond.

toadii

10-03-2008, 02:51 PM

Great job!! :seeya:
aww shucks,thank you
watch it now , I am on a roll

http://www.wftv.com/news/17615013/detail.html

perhaps le could use Razor the cell phone sniffing dog to help locate casey's imaginary phone left on her imaginary desk she used in her imaginary office for the job she did not have.

maybe le could take Razor for a walk around Jay Blanchard Park.

Albini

10-03-2008, 02:51 PM

And they've been doing just that very thing. :)

Yeah, b/c holding a bat and screaming at people is in no way defensive. Thats absurd to say they have been undefensive in thier posture and thier vebal responses.

Am I saying they dont have the right to be angry, no. But I wont sit back and paint them as completely defenseless and staunchly offense oriented.

need2no

10-03-2008, 02:51 PM

Any local reporting - Was K-9 Gerus involved with yesterday’s wooded area search? TIA

Not that I could find, which I thought was odd.

As for K-9 Gerus...I don't know.

Sorry I'm of no help at all.

Loves2Read

10-03-2008, 02:52 PM

Casey hasn't been charged with murder.

Casey has NOT tried to flee the jurisdiction.

End of story.

:read: I think you might have misread the post. NO ONE said she was charged with murder yet. Just FYI.

num1barb

10-03-2008, 02:52 PM

Empty storage containers ..

I'm leaning more toward trash bags. Not as bulky to carry. Smaller hole to dig (if there was even a hole, probably would have been considered "a huge waste" of time and effort).

MOO

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 02:52 PM

I really believe that she would talk-if she had a few drinks in her. JB spews the truth without the liquor LOL. He is an amazing piece of work i tell ya!!

I wonder how Casey is spending her last few days of freedom?! lots of myspace and facebook posts...a mani/pedi! Tryin on prison uniforms!?
:D

trying to figure out how to tie up that orange jumper for a more flattering figure...

just in time for Halloweenie...

Albini

10-03-2008, 02:53 PM

Casey hasn't been charged with murder.

Casey has NOT tried to flee the jurisdiction.

End of story.

I think she said WHEN she is. I am sure she hasnt fled or been charged. That doesnt mean she wont be. DOesnt mean she will be. But the supposition is a popular one.

frances1

10-03-2008, 02:53 PM

desmom

10-03-2008, 02:53 PM

I will do that when I get home tonight.

Oopsie: ETA: does ANYONE know the city they lived in, in Ohio. Makes searching through BK records MUCH easier.

Not sure if this will help, but George worked for Trumbull County Sheriff's Department.

http://www.wkbn.com/news/local/25944914.html

Rayosunshine

10-03-2008, 02:53 PM

TxLady2

10-03-2008, 02:56 PM

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life"

Baez' words.

It its what it is.

Not one thing about the welfare of Caylee.

Zero. Zilch. Nada.

He does not represent Caylee. He represents Casey. If he knew that Casey had some information that Caylee is alive and knows where she is, it would seem he would be obligated to tell LE, so they can act on it. If he thinks Casey knows where Caylee is hidden or buried, and that she is dead, he doesn't want to know, and he will advise her not to tell anyone. His interests are Casey... period.

Albini

10-03-2008, 02:56 PM

Its evident to you, and that doesn't surprise me at all.
:seeya:I agree. I find LS to be a very intelligent poster and I look foreward to reading her posts. Some of the best points have been made by LS. She has compassion for Caylee that is obvious. :rose:

bballgrl

10-03-2008, 02:56 PM

Empty storage containers ..

Gotcha... I don't think they sell those at JCP... But I bet they do at Target

ETA: I think someone else already said that. sorry

tiny paw-prints

10-03-2008, 02:56 PM

Why? She hasn't attempted to flee the jurisdiction, has she?

No, she hasn't fled the jurisdiction.

She's allowed to go in the front yard, she could wave to the webcam, she hasn't even done that. She can go to church too, but she hasn't done that either!

Rayosunshine

10-03-2008, 02:57 PM

That is the truth and yes it is sad. I do think of George`s knee surgery for some reason that hit me as so sad for him to get a whole new knee and for what, his life is in shambles.

Cindy from the get go headed down a path that was so defensive yet backfired almost instantaneously. She had myself as well I am sure others yelling back at the TV, WHAT? Couldn`t she see her approach was not having the effect she tried to achieve? She never seemed to re-group like many thought perhaps she would......I was almost wishing for it. Then came the Tim fiasco. That was bad. AND just when we thought it could not get worse, we have the Jesse interview. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT SHE DID TO JESSE. I can not relate. People say you never know what you would do in her shoes! Well I certainly know what I would not do!

And yes I am sure her career is probably shaky now at best. WOW.....hard to believe this is such a mess. Poor little Caylee, I just love her. Many of us have fell in love with her and just wish we could do something. Sadly it may be too late......

Well said, Tree.

Loves2Read

10-03-2008, 02:58 PM

Link with similar report:

elfninosmom.wordpress.com/2008/08/15/updates-on-caylee-anthony-disappearance/

See post #16 by Suzanne

I am sorry I don't see the connection with my post that you responded to?

num1barb

10-03-2008, 02:59 PM

No, she hasn't fled the jurisdiction.

She's allowed to go in the front yard, she could wave to the webcam, she hasn't even done that. She can go to church too, but she hasn't done that either!

IIRC she hasn't even attended any of the vigils for her missing daughter, vigils that are held in her own yard, well within the bounds of her ankle monitor.
:mad:

bballgrl

10-03-2008, 02:59 PM

I think she said WHEN she is. I am sure she hasnt fled or been charged. That doesnt mean she wont be. DOesnt mean she will be. But the supposition is a popular one.

Thank you.. I said that whether she will be allowed to sit at home while awaiting trial would DEPEND on the charges. I said IF murder.. i doubt it. That is what was said.... IF she is charged with murder... Some people don't read well. ;)

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 03:00 PM

George worked for the sheriff's dept. in Trumbull County. Try Youngstown maybe, or Warren. Most of the time, when I look for Ohio info, the court records are on the county websites.... doesn't matter which city.

Thank you. Warren kinda rings a bell.

BK courts are U.S. Courts, though. That info doesn't show up on county records. I go to a federal site, and you need to know which bankruptcy court district the city is in, within the state. I'll try those.

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 03:02 PM

Its a logical conclusion that the blood and flesh relatives would care more than a complete stranger would.
:shrug:

hhmm

Like maybe a Mother??

morson

10-03-2008, 03:02 PM

He does indeed.

Casey knows Caylee is dead.

Casey murdered Caylee.

As Baez said, if Casey tells what she knows... she could be put away for life.

And rightfully so.

Little does Baez know... the DA doesn't need Casey to tell what she knows for her to be put away for life.

It's gonna happen regardless. :)

As I read Baez' comments, he is basically stating that this was a murder and not an accident.

desmom

10-03-2008, 03:02 PM

:rose: 125 Candles from 3 Countries have been lit for Caylee.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

need2no

10-03-2008, 03:04 PM

Not sure if this will help, but George worked for Trumbull County Sheriff's Department.

http://www.wkbn.com/news/local/25944914.html

and they lived in Warren, Ohio, prior to moving to FL in 1989.

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 03:04 PM

Thank you. Warren kinda rings a bell.

BK courts are U.S. Courts, though. That info doesn't show up on county records. I go to a federal site, and you need to know which bankruptcy court district the city is in, within the state. I'll try those.

I'm answering my own post here. :D
Just researched and there are only two districts in Ohio for the BK courts, Northern Ohio and Southern Ohio. Easy enough for me to look up in just two districts. Will do, tonight.

EGirl

10-03-2008, 03:05 PM

And IF she is charged with murder what has she done which would deny her a constitutional right to bail?

If she's charged with capital murder in FL is bail even an option?

Also, isn't her trial for the fraud charges going to start next month?

jammies

10-03-2008, 03:05 PM

I will do that when I get home tonight.

Oopsie: ETA: does ANYONE know the city they lived in, in Ohio. Makes searching through BK records MUCH easier.

Trumbull County, Warren, Ohio

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 03:06 PM

No. Like the grandparents, as stated numerous times.

Without getting religious...I don't know a love greater than a mother's love!!

And there's no one you're more "flesh and blood" to than the mother than created you, carried you around and nourished you for 9+ mths, and gave you life.

Right??

So if that "Flesh and Blood" can not only not love you, but take that life back away from you...

then I would think it's just as "Logical" that "strangers" can love MORE than "flesh and blood"

Just sayin'

Rayosunshine

10-03-2008, 03:06 PM

I asked this early this morning and got no reply so I will ask again. Does anyone know where Amy lives. I have 232 Glenwood Drive, but google earth gives me three choices N or S in Orlando or Winterpark. I'm working on pings and don't have Amy's address. TIA

Keys, looking at the map posted on the real estate transfer site, it is near Winterpark.

trich

10-03-2008, 03:08 PM

Yes, I'm sure of that. But.. can you explain why you feel she would not be entitled to bail, albeit a very high amount. What has she done that would deny her a constitutional right to bail?

I don't know about Florida but in some states an indictment for murder is not a bondable offense.

tiny paw-prints

10-03-2008, 03:08 PM

Yes, I'm sure of that. But.. can you explain why you feel she would not be entitled to bail, albeit a very high amount. What has she done that would deny her a constitutional right to bail?

Did they recently increase "on-duty" patrol officers for Casey's Constitutional Protection?

day2day

10-03-2008, 03:08 PM

trying to figure out how to tie up that orange jumper for a more flattering figure...

just in time for Halloweenie...

Death Row inmates can be distinguished from other inmates by their orange t-shirts. Their pants are the same blue colored pants worn by regular inmates:D

TxLady2

10-03-2008, 03:10 PM

I hear what you are saying, but I don't understand it, because Cindy DOES have a choice. And saying that if she admitted Caylee is gone forever, it's like admitting Casey's guilt? Your point is? Truth is truth. No one is exempt from truth. I say this not just about Cindy Anthony, but anyone.

I'm sorry that you don't understand what I meant. She is not in the witness chair now, nor is she under oath. It's a matter of what she accepts to be the truth... which is she will not accept Caylee being dead until she has seen the body or evidence that proves it 100%. And I don't mean what they TELL her is evidence, I mean see it with her own eyes! She is in total denial... not that it excuses the things she's done and said... but it at least explains them.

Cury-us Coyote

10-03-2008, 03:11 PM

Not that I could find, which I thought was odd.

As for K-9 Gerus...I don't know.

Sorry I'm of no help at all.

AFAIK K-9 Gerus’s certification and statement of the second cadaver dog’s handler are additional items missing from document dump to date.

I wonder if Mark Williams in on vacation or in the ng dog house?

catjoed

10-03-2008, 03:11 PM

:read:

http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/02/1480391.aspx

num1barb

10-03-2008, 03:11 PM

I don't think storage containers were used either, I was answering a post .. :D

I know :) Sorry I should have quoted the original post instead of yours!!

marshmallow

10-03-2008, 03:11 PM

Did they recently increase "on-duty" patrol officers for Casey's Constitutional Protection?

yes, they took them from high crime areas to guard the Anthony's house.

Albini

10-03-2008, 03:13 PM

Why would they consider her a flight risk? Has she tried to flee? This has gone in a complete circle, ending up with the original question.

Her history of lying to the LE and her history of repeated illegal activities may warrent a no bond ruling.

trich

10-03-2008, 03:13 PM

http://www.miami-criminal-lawyer.net/html/bail-bonds-bondsman.html

Although there is right to a reasonable bond in most cases, there are certain offenses where a person can be denied bond to the severity of the offense. These types of crimes are often referred to as "non-bondable offenses" and include crimes such as murder, armed drug trafficking, and burglary with a battery.

marshmallow

10-03-2008, 03:13 PM

If there is no greater love than a mother's love, then that might explain Cindy's actions and reactions.

but what about Casey's actions and reactions?

margaret kep

10-03-2008, 03:14 PM

Like a big rubbermaid container, which could be buried? (if she wasn't too lazy to dig the hole big enough...)
She could have picked one up @ Target too.

Do you mean something like George walked out of house with and took along in his carfirst few days of this case?:confused:

TxLady2

10-03-2008, 03:14 PM

You can be positive in your own thinking all you want to. That does not make it true or factual.

LINK?

Any more than saying they love Casey more than Caylee is true or factual.

bballgrl

10-03-2008, 03:14 PM

And IF she is charged with murder what has she done which would deny her a constitutional right to bail?

There is no "constitutional right to bail"... It is up to the judge based on many factors. He would have to have a reason to deny bail, but I imagine that lying to LE, hindering an investigation in conjunction with a 1st degree murder charge (not to mention the 3 previous arrests within the last 3 months), would speak volumes. But, it would not be my decision. I said "I think" and "I doubt".... I never said "I know"... cause I don't.

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 03:14 PM

If there is no greater love than a mother's love, then that might explain Cindy's actions and reactions.

Guessing you missed the point of that, huh?
That's what I was hitting on...

trich

10-03-2008, 03:16 PM

marshmallow

10-03-2008, 03:16 PM

my personal opinion is that we need to stop argueing about who loved or didn't love Caylee before a bickerment breaks out and the board is closed.

warrkat

10-03-2008, 03:16 PM

Thank you. Warren kinda rings a bell.

BK courts are U.S. Courts, though. That info doesn't show up on county records. I go to a federal site, and you need to know which bankruptcy court district the city is in, within the state. I'll try those.

Oh, that's right, I forgot you were looking for a federal court. Might try Cleveland or Akron if you don't find it. Warren isn't a very big city, and I doubt it would have a federal courthouse. Might, though.

need2no

10-03-2008, 03:18 PM

I'm answering my own post here. :D
Just researched and there are only two districts in Ohio for the BK courts, Northern Ohio and Southern Ohio. Easy enough for me to look up in just two districts. Will do, tonight.

I just looked here:
http://countycourt.co.warren.oh.us/pa/

came back with -0-

I also listened to Cindy's testimony at the bond hearing again...nothing was stated about BK. The prosecutor asked Cindy about a $12,367.54 judgement from Citibank against GA, or CA and GA. Cindy replied she was behind on some payments. hmmmm...didn't think a creditor would accept payments on a judgement. >note intended sarcasm< Obviously judgement was recorded after 2005 when they did a refi on their mortgage...

Will be looking forward to hearing what, if anything, you find.

bballgrl

10-03-2008, 03:18 PM

Your post has nothing to do with a defendant's constitutional right to bail.
:shrug:

Can you point this out in the constitution for me?? I have never heard of a "Constitutional right to bail"....

TxLady2

10-03-2008, 03:18 PM

And IF she is charged with murder what has she done which would deny her a constitutional right to bail?

It's not what she has done... it depends on a lot of factors. Most of the time, a person charged with capital murder is not eligible for bail. Any lesser charge it depends on the judge. Some judges are more lenient than others. They also consider whether she is a flight risk.

warrkat

10-03-2008, 03:18 PM

my personal opinion is that we need to stop argueing about who loved or didn't love Caylee before a bickerment breaks out and the board is closed.

bickerment. I like that word.

Albini

10-03-2008, 03:19 PM

No.. I try not to inject myself into these criminal cases, like others do.
I will leave the e-mails to you.

Yeah, all you pesky people who searched for Caylee :punch:

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 03:19 PM

Then explain why complete strangers have done more searching for Caylee and begged more for the truth out of Casey than the flesh and blood mother, grandmother and grandfather?

It would be logical in most cases. There is NO proof at this time that it is true and factual in this case.

They may have cared for and loved Caylee before Casey killed her but they have shown thus far that they care more about Casey and defending her and keeping her from jail or death row than they do at this point about finding Caylee and giving her justice.
IMO

I don't think love is necessarily "provable" by actions.

If you're saying that strangers love Caylee because they search for her, and the grandparents DON'T love Caylee because they have not searched for her......I disagree. It is simply NOT that simple.

jammies

10-03-2008, 03:19 PM

Oh, that's right, I forgot you were looking for a federal court. Might try Cleveland or Akron if you don't find it. Warren isn't a very big city, and I doubt it would have a federal courthouse. Might, though.

Hi, warr. Great news! So happy for you!

Youngstown is the closest Fed. court. Warren right next to Youngstown....suburb.

If I knew where to look......I would....short of driving down there!

GrannyB

10-03-2008, 03:20 PM

Lookie here...we will need a fresh thread very soon and I am not touching starting a new thread with a 50 ft pole..... tia somebody who is more on the ball than I am today.....:seeya:

LOL you can do it. We're all cheering you on.:)

Rayosunshine

10-03-2008, 03:22 PM

I am sorry I don't see the connection with my post that you responded to?

this is blog post written by a Suzanne, who saw someone coming out of the woods near the airport. The blog post is dated mid-August.

Sorry.

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 03:23 PM

wow looking at your post and your replies you seem to be deep into this case as most others. Most of us want justice for Caylee, I notice some don't. That is what scares me. :rolleyes:

What a rude thing to say...I guarantee there is not a person on here who doesn't want "Justice for Caylee" (you make it sound so lofty).

Maybe "Justice for Caylee" doesn't mean the same to all people. Maybe "Justice for Caylee" for some means take Casey out and shoot her. Right NOW. Oh and take Cindy, George and Lee and throw them in jail. Right NOW. Others want the judicial system to do it's proper job, in good time, in the right way.

bballgrl

10-03-2008, 03:24 PM

http://www.miami-criminal-lawyer.net...-bondsman.html

Although there is right to a reasonable bond in most cases, there are certain offenses where a person can be denied bond to the severity of the offense. These types of crimes are often referred to as "non-bondable offenses" and include crimes such as murder, armed drug trafficking, and burglary with a battery.
__________________

I am posting an apology here because I have never heard of "Constitutional right to bail".... However based on this link, I see that the constitution does apparantly give this right (I assumed it was judicial discreation) ... so sorry...

"If you have been arrested in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, or other cities in Florida, you generally have the right to a reasonable bail bond pursuant to the Florida and U.S. constitutions."

?noanswer

10-03-2008, 03:24 PM

I'm answering my own post here. :D
Just researched and there are only two districts in Ohio for the BK courts, Northern Ohio and Southern Ohio. Easy enough for me to look up in just two districts. Will do, tonight.

http://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-ohio/noscat-9/
I just did a search for all districts in Ohio, for all cases, and for all dates using George Anthony, Cindy Anthony and George and Cynthia Anthony. No cases were returned. JMO

bballgrl

10-03-2008, 03:24 PM

Eighth amendment.

Thanks... I just posted an apology upthread!

GrannyB

10-03-2008, 03:25 PM

I just looked here:
http://countycourt.co.warren.oh.us/pa/

came back with -0-

I also listened to Cindy's testimony at the bond hearing again...nothing was stated about BK. The prosecutor asked Cindy about a $12,367.54 judgement from Citibank against GA, or CA and GA. Cindy replied she was behind on some payments. hmmmm...didn't think a creditor would accept payments on a judgement. >note intended sarcasm< Obviously judgement was recorded after 2005 when they did a refi on their mortgage...

Will be looking forward to hearing what, if anything, you find.

That's a county court. BK is in Fed Court

Loves2Read

10-03-2008, 03:27 PM

Eighth amendment.

No where in the eighth amendment does it guaranty bail. No excessive bail yes but no right to have bail.

Ladyhawk

10-03-2008, 03:28 PM

The poster you responded to seems to (IMO) point the finger at everyone for being hateful and childish blah blah blah just to anger people stir things up and keep everything OFF TOPIC just like the post you responded to was OFF TOPIC. My advise is do not quote this poster and keep your focus on Caylee.

For instance this woman that has come forward to say that she believes she spotted Casey coming out of the woods near the airport back in June. I am wondering why, with all of the publicity, she didn't come forward sooner?

I'm probably late with this since my MIL called while I'm trying to get this post out....sorry if it has been talked about already.

The video reports that the woman saw a white car like Casey's parked in the median, etc, etc.....

The median is in the middle of the street, lane(s) of traffic on both sides of it. Is it reasonable to think that in the light of day, Casey would have left her vehicle in the middle of the street and hoofed it over into the underbrush to bury Caylee?

Rayosunshine

10-03-2008, 03:28 PM

but what about Casey's actions and reactions?

I think she had a very good teacher.

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 03:29 PM

http://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-ohio/noscat-9/
I just did a search for all districts in Ohio, for all cases, and for all dates using George Anthony, Cindy Anthony and George and Cynthia Anthony. No cases were returned. JMO

Interesting. That is not the site I go on myself. I will check my site tonight also.

ETA: default date was beginning 2004. You should check earlier. They were in FL then.

TxLady2

10-03-2008, 03:31 PM

?noanswer

10-03-2008, 03:32 PM

Interesting. That is not the site I go on myself. I will check my site tonight also.

ETA: default date was beginning 2004. You should check earlier. They were in FL then.

I found this site on a search. I found the official BK site for Ohio, but did not see a search option. It was probably there - sometimes I do not see things! JMO

Ladyhawk

10-03-2008, 03:34 PM

http://dockets.justia.com/browse/state-ohio/noscat-9/
I just did a search for all districts in Ohio, for all cases, and for all dates using George Anthony, Cindy Anthony and George and Cynthia Anthony. No cases were returned. JMO

Try the name of George's business. Anthony Motors or something like that.

But it really doesn't matter anyway because that was 10 years ago at least so they have passed the 7 yr waiting period and if they need to file bankruptcy again there's nothing to prevent that.

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 03:36 PM

How does anyone know that the Anthonys have not searched for Caylee? Searching does not always have to be done on foot or in the woods. Maybe they've searched other places. They refuse to participate in looking for a dead Caylee, because they love her and want her to be found alive!

I can't speak for everyone, or provide a link, but I can tell you why I believe people think that way.

Its' hard to have 'searched' and not been caught on the camera that's tailing you 24/7 (which they haven't)...

Sure, they drove around with the billboard, pretty sure they did some internet surfing, but was any of that really beneficial??

Also, when others were searching, when TES was here...
Cindy actually asked them not to. Why?

And though this may not fall under 'searching'...
but if they were so eager to find a live Caylee, from these kidnappers that they had under watch, while they were performing their 'cameo's' why have they never once pleaded to the kidnappers for caylee's return or safety?!?!

crymeariver2006

10-03-2008, 03:36 PM

I'm not sure if they received money from ABC or not. But I know they don't pay for interviews. However... networks do pay for rights to videos and such.. which the Anthonys provided for the interview. So they could have got a few thousand for those. I don't know for a fact, tho.

If ABC paid Riccio $20,000 for the OJ tapes, there's not a doubt in my mind that they paid that amount or more for exclusive rights to Caylee's home movies.

No doubt whatsoever. Their disclaimer was that ABC News did not pay for interviews. ABC is more than "news".

JMO

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 03:38 PM

I found this site on a search. I found the official BK site for Ohio, but did not see a search option. It was probably there - sometimes I do not see things! JMO

Well I know from some experience with people who have filed, that they get their info from pacer.gov...something like that. Shows your file date, progress of case, then hearing, discharge date etc. That is the recommended site on several BK message boards, to check your case. You have to "join" though and get a password. All is free, except if you copy pages of any docs, that is 8 cents per page. As I said, I'll check tonight.

margaret kep

10-03-2008, 03:39 PM

:rose: 125 Candles from 3 Countries have been lit for Caylee.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle

Thank you Des - am still crying about the candle site. Never realiazed so many wonderful people in the world who would take the time to light a candle for CAYLEE:rose:. Thank you all the countries for your prayers.:patriot:

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 03:40 PM

I didn't say that was the ONLY thing her buddies say to others that is RUDE. Did I? :punch:

My buddies? I don't have any "board buddies."

I'm a maverick. Like Sarah Palin. :lol: :rolleyes:

Had to get some political humor in there.

Guess I better move on to the new thread.....wonder if we'll get any Caylee news tonight?

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 03:46 PM

I think it is very possible that with their lives in shambles, which there are reports that it was; they had not filed yet or discharged.
*snipped*

If they have filed, it will be on record, and I will find it.

Whether or NOT discharged yet. It is on record and can be found.

Now if they have NOT yet filed......what the heck are we even discussing it for?

I'm sure their lives are in shambles as well as their finances. That's a given.

:shrug:

Kathlb

10-03-2008, 03:48 PM

I don't know about Florida but in some states an indictment for murder is not a bondable offense.

In Florida First Degree Murder is not a bondable offense.

http://www.myfloridadefenselawyer.com/FlCriminalProcedures.html

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 03:54 PM

It seems silly that I'm repeating this for the gazillionth time, but I guess I can't help myself. Other than a few bogus sightings reported by questionable sources, at no point have any of the Anthonys given anyone a specific, credible lead as to where to look for Caylee, much less look for her themselves.

Saying she's in the state of New York or Texas, or in the country of Mexico or somewhere in Puerto Rico is hardly helpful -- especially when there's no description given of who supposedly has the child.

I think the t-shirts, the mobile billboard, all of it -- was someone else's idea and the Anthonys followed along for show. I've never seen a case of a missing person where so little information was given as to what to look for in ID'ing the person. Never. This has been a huge joke from the very beginning, this 'looking for a live Caylee' nonsense, except that it's not even remotely funny.

The Anthonys have not made a good faith effort to look for Caylee, nor have they given LE or the rest of us anything useful with which to look for her ourselves. Those are just the facts. I can't imagine why we're still even discussing whether or not the Anthonys have searched for a live Caylee. They haven't, they aren't, they won't.

:( Is there a reason you quoted me? *Tail Tucked*

Cause I agree with you!

sunbunny

10-03-2008, 03:59 PM

I'm answering my own post here. :D
Just researched and there are only two districts in Ohio for the BK courts, Northern Ohio and Southern Ohio. Easy enough for me to look up in just two districts. Will do, tonight.

i have a PACER account here at work and i found this: (does this sound like him?)
George R Anthony
2841 Parkman Rd NW
Warren, OH 44485
(330) Unknown
SSNs: xxx-xx-7849
Added: 12/01/2000(Debtor)
represented by Timothy F. George
Atty. Tim George & Associates Co., LPA
5704 Youngstown-Warren Rd.
Niles, OH 44446
330-652-8000
330-652-8053 (fax)
timgeorge@timgeorgelaw.com
Assigned: 12/01/00
LEAD ATTORNEY

GrandmaGA

10-03-2008, 04:01 PM

i have a PACER account here at work and i found this: (does this sound like him?)
George R Anthony
2841 Parkman Rd NW
Warren, OH 44485
(330) Unknown
SSNs: xxx-xx-7849
Added: 12/01/2000(Debtor)
represented by Timothy F. George
Atty. Tim George & Associates Co., LPA
5704 Youngstown-Warren Rd.
Niles, OH 44446
330-652-8000
330-652-8053 (fax)
timgeorge@timgeorgelaw.com
Assigned: 12/01/00
LEAD ATTORNEYHow will this information find Caylee?

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 04:02 PM

Ionmhainn

10-03-2008, 04:02 PM

<respectfully snipped>

Others want the judicial system to do it's proper job, in good time, in the right way.

Sign me up for that one.;)

frances1

10-03-2008, 04:03 PM

Without getting religious...I don't know a love greater than a mother's love!!

And there's no one you're more "flesh and blood" to than the mother than created you, carried you around and nourished you for 9+ mths, and gave you life.

Right??

So if that "Flesh and Blood" can not only not love you, but take that life back away from you...

then I would think it's just as "Logical" that "strangers" can love MORE than "flesh and blood"

Just sayin'

I don't think we can "love" someone we don't know.

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 04:04 PM

Untuck that tail, missy!

I quoted you cuz I agree with you and was tagging on, more or less. I should've said as much.

Sorry, WL. :seeya:

Not sure if it's Halloween around the corner, hormones, full moon tonight?? It's freaky in here today!

I'm just paranoid...and skeered! :tongue:

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 04:05 PM

I don't think we can "love" someone we don't know.

Okay...Now Religion

Btw any chance, are you religious? I don't care of "what you believe in", but do you love a "higher power?"

frances1

10-03-2008, 04:06 PM

How will this information find Caylee?

How will ANY of your posts find Caylee?

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 04:06 PM

Or are you a mom?

Did you feel love for the 'fetus' that grew inside you at one point, before ever ''knowing them''?

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 04:08 PM

We can agree to disagree if you like :)

But I love Caylee!!

I would take her in and give her the same love I give my own if it would bring her home today!

I can say the same about many innocent children out there, even ones still completely 'unknown' to me.

I guess it depends on how much you want to open your heart and how you define 'love'

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 04:08 PM

I don't think we can "love" someone we don't know.

I TOTALLY agree. :beer:

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 04:10 PM

Or are you a mom?

Did you feel love for the 'fetus' that grew inside you at one point, before ever ''knowing them''?

I'm a mom. I felt I "knew" my child in the womb. I really do.

I absolutely do NOT think any poster on here loves Caylee. They may think they do. They have A LOT of compassion for her and for her life, and care about what happens/happened to her. But no, not "love" in the real sense of the word. Maybe "love" as in we should "love our neighbors as ourselves." But not personal love. IMO.

GrandmaGA

10-03-2008, 04:10 PM

This is a message board. No one here is 'looking' for Caylee..they are discussing the case. Searchers 'look'..posters 'discuss'.

Oh excuse me, i have read over and over on here it was about Caylee. I guess the goal changes depending on who posts. :rolleyes:

BTW, what does the posted info have to do with the case?

EGirl

10-03-2008, 04:12 PM

Bingo, you got it. And that's the site I use, Pacer.

I thought the Anthony's had been in Florida for 20 years?

GrandmaGA

10-03-2008, 04:13 PM

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 04:14 PM

I'm a mom. I felt I "knew" my child in the womb. I really do.

I absolutely do NOT think any poster on here loves Caylee. They may think they do. They have A LOT of compassion for her and for her life, and care about what happens/happened to her. But no, not "love" in the real sense of the word. Maybe "love" as in we should "love our neighbors as ourselves." But not personal love. IMO.

I feel I "know" Caylee (threw her life as displayed on TV) as much as I knew that "fetus" so to say.

But it does depend on how you want to define love.

I'm pretty open to the definition, but won't deny different 'types'

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 04:16 PM

Oh Winnie, please hock your wares somewhere else = please.

peace,

:confused: Problem???

Regina.Lampert

10-03-2008, 04:17 PM

The BK thing is NOT true. The Anthonys have never filed BK in FL. I looked this up a weekend or so ago. If anyone wants verification, PM me and I'll give them the link where to look it up. It is free. (Don't have the link with me, though, it's at home so it would have to be tonight or tomorrow.)

Repeat: The Anthonys never filed BK in the state of FL.

What about Ohio, that's where their financial problems originated?

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 04:22 PM

I thought the Anthony's had been in Florida for 20 years?

:shrug: I didn't look at it that carefully. Was it the right middle initial, etc.?

SavannahStar

10-03-2008, 04:23 PM

I believe in love at first sight and loving a child before you've ever laid eyes on her.

And thank God that capacity for love exists. Children are adopted every day either sight unseen, or from a picture or video.

Adopting does not equal love. It is lovING to adopt a child, and certainly that love develops, in time. But you don't "love" a sight unseen child you are going to adopt.

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 04:28 PM

Oh Winnie, please hock your wares somewhere else = please.

peace,

I don't come on this board to spread the hatred here.

I don't mind a good debate, which believe it or not SS is probably one of the best to go up against me, somethings we agree on, others we don't....

BUT regardless, we can be respectful about it either way!

So, I really don't appreciate you chiming in with disrespect.

Feel free to disagree, but it doesn't mean you have to disrespect!

tiny paw-prints

10-03-2008, 04:28 PM

Your post has nothing to do with a defendant's constitutional right to bail.
:shrug:

Because I wasn't replying to your post, that's why it had nothing to do with a defendant's constitutional right to bail! :D

I was referring to the additional "on-duty" patrol officers recently assigned to the Anthony abode for Casey's constitutional protection!

Are you aware that Caylee Marie has constitutional rights?

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 04:30 PM

Adopting does not equal love. It is lovING to adopt a child, and certainly that love develops, in time. But you don't "love" a sight unseen child you are going to adopt.

but you can "Love" a sight unseen of that lil' butter bean you're going to have??

(which btw, yes, I think you can, but I think you can love beyond that too, granted...different 'types' of love)

:)

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 04:31 PM

a strong positive emotion of regard and affection

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 04:32 PM

But lets agree to disagree and move on now... :)

*Handshake* Truce!

I'm flipping through two threads LOL

nc1948

10-03-2008, 04:34 PM

G'morning, all.

I think Baez may be making those bizarre statements in an attempt to get LE's interest peeked and hoping that they will offer a plea deal, again.

Who knows whats been going on behind closed doors within the family. Tensions may be getting very high. Maybe reality has finally sunk in!

Just a thought.

Baez may be working on getting a deal with prosecution. Bu, I do not think Casey will ever accept any deal. I think she really believes she will get away with this. She had a 30/31 day headstart and has all her family in her corner. She thinks she has LE snowed. She has an attitude of entitlement and I do not think she will ever accept any deal.
She is going to prove us all wrong. And Cindy is going to help her.

GrandmaGA

10-03-2008, 04:36 PM

You are excused..now I will try to help you...This case is about Caylee..Caylee missing and all that goes along with the 'case'.

Again depending on who is posting. Now i will help you understand. Yesterday it was a big no no to talk about ZG and a possible connection to JO and they are both a part of the case.

tiny paw-prints

10-03-2008, 04:36 PM

I believe in love at first sight and loving a child before you've ever laid eyes on her.

And thank God that capacity for love exists. Children are adopted every day either sight unseen, or from a picture or video.

I'm reminded about the man and wife who went to adopt a newborn baby girl. While browsing the adoption nursery, the woman went to tickle the chin of a newborn baby boy who quickly grabbed her pinky finger--and her heart--and would not let go! End of story.

bchand

10-03-2008, 04:39 PM

frances1

10-03-2008, 04:50 PM

Hey Frances,
Sometimes the people here come up with some pretty good tips. If it is good enough we will email the right people. Ever since the Westerfield case where a major clue was found on a message board, it is common knowledge that LE cruises the boards to get fresh clues. 2 heads are better that 1. I think that may be the cause of some of the leaks.....that and trying to get witnesses to come forward. You just never know.

Tree, that was directed to GrandmaGA.

WinnieLeigh7

10-03-2008, 04:58 PM

Well now lets think about this. IF Baez knew Caylee was alive and naturally she would have to be with an adult. Then he would know of an ongoing crime and he would be obligated to turn over the info. BUT if Caylee is dead he is under no obligation because there is no ongoing crime.

That pretty much told me a lot from the get go. So I figured he would probably shy away from the questions and media. NOT!......Now what he has said just sorta goes with what I already figured. I am only shocked that he said it.

This is still an ongoing investigation though...
So what's the fine line between the two??

martha

10-03-2008, 05:07 PM

Well for one thing it tells us "Rick" that cropped up towards the beginning, (on another message board), was probably legit when he said he was Cindy`s brother. He said a lot. He gave one of the first indications that there was a fight on Father`s Day and what had caused it and more. Even though Cindy adamantly denied it happened on Geraldo. So far all he said has checked out including now we see the Bankruptcy. He also supplied pics.

I doubt I should explain to you why that fight on June 15th is so important.I sure do believe it was cindy;s brother because he said cindy called him and was up set because he was posting. teliing me cindy is reading on these boards. after rick said cindy called him getting on to him he did not post anymore. jmho:rose: