Thursday, 10/2/08 Afternoon/Evening, Day 108

[kakax]

Anyone doing an excel chart of all these guesses (with prizes)?

I've gotten them written down. Yes, I'm a sick, pathetic housewife rofl!

[dixie77]

I just won a major prize! My mom is now cancer free!!! Yea!!! It took 4 years but that dang treatment worked. Yeah!!!!!!

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Thats awesome news, Rose. Thank God.

[kakax]

I just popped on to see if anything new has been happening. Mom had surgery a couple of days ago and I've been with her and missed the board. Better go to bed for kid duty tomorrow but ya'll seem to be holding down the fort pretty well.

See you tomorrow when there'll be candy corn for all! barf



Night...sleep well. Hopefully see you tomorrow! I'm right behind ya.

[OneUp]

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I agree and i think its horrible that she would bring innocent people into this. Its too bad that Cindy doesnt have a daughter that she can call a "good girl". She wants to bring Casey's friends down to the level of her own daughter. Its not gonna work. I think Cindy and George lying and covering for Casey is not gonna go un-answered when this is all said and done. And i have to add this........i still think it was a negligent accident as to what happened to Caylee and i think its the only reason C & G r lying and covering for Casey. But if i'm wrong in thinking it was an accident, then i am inclined to think that Casey made C & G believe it was an accident.......thus the cover-up. JMO
I don't want to snip...but I want to "highlight" this statment:
"Its too bad that Cindy doesnt have a daughter that she can call a "good girl"..."
IMO, she had a "good girl" and Casey removed her from the equasion. I believe had that been a sister instead, Casey may have been likely to attempt to help her have an accident or attempt to "sully" her good rep. with tall tales and planted evidence of misbehaviors...at least an adult sister would have stood a chance.
I have always felt Jealousy of Caylee was one component in Casey's end actions.
JMO.

[Pruddennce]

I must disagree.

I do agree Cindy implicated Amy because Amy decided to press charges.

But there is no way Cindy offered to pay Casey's debt to Amy.

Cindy stole money out of her own daughter's wallet while the police were literally feet away from her.

true LS.....she did steal potential evidence.

but IMO I see her giving lip service to Amy. at that point, she was all onboard with the abduction story.....certainly she would want to avoid anything negative...well, she tried her best as evidenced by all of her sitdowns...

IMO

best regards,
Pru

[steffaroob4]

If you mean Press Release, I would love to see it.

Lol, another zinger, I was thinking about the PR dude. What is his name anyway, garrison, is he hiding or something. Have we seen him lately, I know he posted on casey's blog.

[bchand]

Lol, another zinger, I was thinking about the PR dude. What is his name anyway, garrison, is he hiding or something. Have we seen him lately, I know he posted on casey's blog.


Oh see, when it comes from RayoSunshine, I think PR is puerto rico.

[5boxersmom]

About the word absolutely. Check the first answer out. Land Sharked. :lol::lol:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080922100108AAQ9JJH

[GrannyB]

That was so bizarre. HOW could a grandmother be concerned about MONEY at a moment like that? At that point Casey let the police show up ..Cindy KNEW Caylee was NOT safe.


Kinda lets of know what Cindy really cares about doesn't it. Also shows she could care less what LE thinks. And lets us know where Casey learned to take what she wanted no matter who it belonged to.

[steffaroob4]

Oh see, when it comes from RayoSunshine, I think PR is puerto rico.

The only way I would be interested in PR is if Casey actualy went there, instead of all the lies she stated to her friends that she was going to go. Did casey's cell phone ping in that area?

[aubrey04]

ITA, and I've heard the phrase "save Casey mode" quite a bit since July on this board...and I can see that happening, but I've become a lot less "open-minded" concerning the Anthony's over the past several weeks as I'm sure many others have as well. "Save Casey mode" is still glorified lying and I believe it will eventually result in more arrests besides Casey in the coming future. Lying under oath won't be winked at either...:no:

I absolutely agree. There is a 3 year old out there missing and there is no excuse for lying to authorities, which I believe G&C have. Regardless of whether they are trying to protect Casey or not. It's not fair to Caylee, it's not fair to LE (local police, state police and the FBI) and it is not fair to the tax payers of Florida.. LE has been sent in a zillion different directions on a wild goose chase.

If LE can prove Cindy, George and/or Lee lied in a statement signed under oath, then I hope they nail them to the wall. I have always thought that if Cindy, George and/or Lee were arrested on charges stemming from false statements or whatever else (if anything).. they have done illegal.. then they will spill what they know.. until that time, I expect them to throw out more lies on top of lies.

jmo

[bchand]

The only way I would be interested in PR is if Casey actualy went there, instead of all the lies she stated to her friends that she was going to go. Did casey's cell phone ping in that area?


Me too. Re the pings - not that I ever saw.

[Pruddennce]

True, but at that time Casey had not yet been charged and Amy didnt know for sure who did it. When it got serious and Casey was facing charges, I truly believe she offered to pay it and get Amy to back down. Just like she attempted to do with the Tow yard employees.

hey bratlings,

yes, forgot about the tows...

IMO, the anthonys had no clue this was going to go on this long (an abducted caylee would be returned).....I will give them the total amount of time it took for LE to find out that Casey was lying about everything as a starting point for their 'belief'...

once they were advised she was lying...goodness, she had NO JOB FOR 2 YEARS....and the phone in work, and her non-office, and and and....

well...

they simply didnt know tons of information would surface in the media. its obvious their campaign to 'defend casey' took on a life of its own because they had no clue information would be presented to counter their claims.

best regards,
Pru

[steffaroob4]

Me too. Re the pings - not that I ever saw.

Well, tomorrow will be a good document dump, I have noticed the day before a document dump we get certain types of posts, so let's all hope I am correct for a change:D

There is another sign that more docs are coming soon, but that secret I will keep to myself, it makes me seem more important to know things ahead of time.:biggrin:

As far as a murder arrest am I still thinking after the neglect trial.

[Pag Boi]

Who was paying for Casey's birth control anyway?
The State?

Dots

Where did you ever get the notion Casey used birth control? Has Casey ever been to an OBGYN before her 8th month of pregnancy? Has she been since her postnatal checkups? I see no indication of any planning, prevention or health/wellness intervention by Casey.
JMOO

[rj1212]

I absolutely agree. There is a 3 year old out there missing and there is no excuse for lying to authorities, which I believe G&C have. Regardless of whether they are trying to protect Casey or not. It's not fair to Caylee, it's not fair to LE (local police, state police and the FBI) and it is not fair to the tax payers of Florida.. LE has been sent in a zillion different directions on a wild goose chase.

If LE can prove Cindy, George and/or Lee lied in a statement signed under oath, then I hope they nail them to the wall. I have always thought that if Cindy, George and/or Lee were arrested on charges stemming from false statements or whatever else (if anything).. they have done illegal.. then they will spill what they know.. until that time, I expect them to throw out more lies on top of lies.

jmo

ITA...:beer: my thoughts exactly...

[GrannyB]

I agree, they should have left her in jail.

Can't wait to see her back there, and some justice for this child.

:rose:

I would be okay with an arrest anytime, thats for sure, but I would be willing to wait til Halloween.

Imagine little princesses and fairies, pirates and cookie monsters trick or treating at the Anthonys while Caylee rots out there somewhere.
Its such a heartbreaking case.


I'm waiting for Cindy to tell us they are sure Caylee will be home for Holloween.

[rj1212]

I'm waiting for Cindy to tell us they are sure Caylee will be home for Holloween.

and I'm still waiting for George to give us the latest update concerning his statement many many moons ago about the kidnappers "being watched". I wonder why he suddenly stopped speaking about that important bit of information??? Maybe he's waiting for Halloween too??

[Pag Boi]

Her bones could be in a container in that house. By now, they could have all arranged at some point to bring her home. She would have fit inside a small cooler. Sad to say; sorry to be graphic but I have such a problem that thier home, crawl space attic and basement have not been "searched fully" with them OUT of the house. It's too late now.

Dots


Where is the decomp fluid in your scenario? If Casey's car reeked so badly___after several weeks____ why doesn't any home, crawl space, attic, basement smell enough for Lenny, LE, or others to sniff? Is the small cooler air tight and able to contain its contents for extended period of time? :confused:

[sofiesmom]

This was discussed on NG tonight but I only half way paid attention to that part.. NG unleashed her lawyers and they didn't seem to think there was much of a difference between a POI title and a "suspect" title.. but NG did.

I just looked for the transcript of tonights show and it's not out yet.

IIRC, Nancy said it upped the ante a little.. and that a "suspect" would have more rights as far as questioning by LE than a POI.. but that really didn't effect Casey since she's already lawyered up and zipped it. Something like that?! Maybe someone here reminds what was said better than I do.

IMONancy irritated me tonight on this subject. I remember months when everything was Drew Peterson. Lots of THs were commenting on how "POI" had become the popular term for LE to use as opposed to "suspect. They were basically saying to just call a spade a spade. Of course DP was the suspect. Same thing, different term. (Of course, I'm glad LE has finally used the S word) I'm pretty sure nancy was on this bandwagon, too. But she was all different tonight.

[GrannyB]

and I'm still waiting for George to give us the latest update concerning his statement many many moons ago about the kidnappers "being watched". I wonder why he suddenly stopped speaking about that important bit of information??? Maybe he's waiting for Halloween too??

After Cindy finding out George told LE about Casey driving her car I'm not sure poor George is able to talk any more. :)

[bchand]

Ok, I did the best I could with my eyes crossing. Hope I got everyone:


When Will Casey Be Arrested?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/whenwillcaseybearrested.jpg

[Rayosunshine]

Oh see, when it comes from RayoSunshine, I think PR is puerto rico.

I guess I've made myself perfectly clear.

[GrannyB]

Yip she really went over the line with that one. I think she lost all respect by pulling that stunt. Then you add to the fact she was SUPPOSE to be trying to find Caylee. You would of thought she would of ran to LE and said "Hey I do not have time for any Zaneida bull etc........What can I do to help you find Caylee?" If she thought Caylee alive at that point.....she could kill 2 birds with one stone.....find Caylee AND get Casey off the hook for at least concerning future murder charges. Pretty simple if you ask me!



After she bad mouthed Tim Miller and got so many mad at her you would think she'd learn. But not Cindy.

[aubrey04]

Nancy irritated me tonight on this subject. I remember months when everything was Drew Peterson. Lots of THs were commenting on how "POI" had become the popular term for LE to use as opposed to "suspect. They were basically saying to just call a spade a spade. Of course DP was the suspect. Same thing, different term. (Of course, I'm glad LE has finally used the S word) I'm pretty sure nancy was on this bandwagon, too. But she was all different tonight.

Yeah. I think the same thing. I googled up the difference of the terms and basically every site I looked on stated they basically meant the same thing.. and that's what her defense attorney analysts stated too.

I don't really care what they call her, as long as I hear "alleged murderer in custody" soon.. followed by, "convicted murderer" - once her trial is over.

jmo

[GrannyB]

And when you consider that one of the first things each member of that family said to LE was that you can't believe anything Casey says....

And they conveniently forgot to tell us it runs in the family. They all lie.

[GrannyB]

Yeah. I think the same thing. I googled up the difference of the terms and basically every site I looked on stated they basically meant the same thing.. and that's what her defense attorney analysts stated too.

I don't really care what they call her, as long as I hear "alleged murderer in custody" soon.. followed by, "convicted murderer" - once her trial is over.

jmo


I thought they all switched to POI after the Richard Jewel fiasco.

[rj1212]

So you think, but considering the fact that you don't know what Private Investigators have uncovered - then you're left only with that thought that the Blackjack doesn't exist.

no zanny, no job, no searching for Caylee, heck, no Caylee...and on and on and one...

I think it's pretty safe to say that the blackjack...

[GrannyB]

HI HOUSE........Well I know George said it but did Cindy and Lee?

I know the other two have said it but to who they said it I don't remember. I think Cindy to Amy maybe.

[aubrey04]

Ok, I did the best I could with my eyes crossing. Hope I got everyone:


When Will Casey Be Arrested?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/whenwillcaseybearrested.jpg

Nice job ;) .. For the record, I am not giving up any candy - I am too selfish but I think Casey will be arrested within the next 3 weeks.. I actually think sooner but I am giving a little leeway.

[rj1212]

no zanny, no job, no searching for Caylee, heck, no Caylee...and on and on and one...

I think it's pretty safe to say that the blackjack...

pardon me...that the blackjack didn't exist...

[GrannyB]

Caylee’s Law would hold parents accountable. It would make it a crime for not reporting your child missing after 24 hours. If my child was missing, I would call instantly. We need accountability, otherwise, parents will continue to cause harm to their child(ren) and people need to stand up for what they believe in.

Sure, there’s a memorial site to honor Caylee, but isn’t a law, designed to protect children from future incidents, serving a better purpose in making sure people never forget 3-year-old, Caylee Marie Anthony?


http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=1015

:rose:


IMO 24 hours is way to long to wait to report a 3 year old missing.

[5boxersmom]

Has anyone ever seen her with that Blackjack phone? I've always been creeped out by that jail house call with Lee .. where they were talking in code about that phone. I always had the impression that Blackjack=Caylee.

There was something said that made me wonder if they were talking about Caylee instead of the BJ, but I can't remember what it was. :shrug:

[brodysho]

I must disagree.

I do agree Cindy implicated Amy because Amy decided to press charges.

But there is no way Cindy offered to pay Casey's debt to Amy.

Cindy stole money out of her own daughter's wallet while the police were literally feet away from her.

This insomnia stuff with me is getting really old.
Anyway, I was listening to Georges interview again today, and he even said that Cindy said that money could've been Amys... yet she took it anyway. Seems no one in that house really has a moral compass.

[GrannyB]

Thanks .. but I still don't believe a Puerto Rican drug cartel is holding her for ransom..;)



Well if they are they aren't to bright. First off where's the ransom note. Second who in that family do they think have any money.

[aubrey04]

I thought they all switched to POI after the Richard Jewel fiasco.

I don't think so. I know what you are talking about though.. (RIP, Richard Jewel)... Drew Peterson was first named a "person of interest" in the disappearance of Stacy, then labeled a "suspect" soon after.

Casey was just named a "suspect" yesterday while previously they had catagorized her as a "person of interest".

jmo

[Rayosunshine]

You know what, I've just about had it with you and your cryptic and baiting posts. Go look in the mirror and see if you would like yourself. You used to make me feel sorry for you thinking you were all alone in the word and just a misfit. But then I rethought my position and I realized you are just a misadjusted, misfit who want's so very much to fit in somewhere, anywhere that you chose to put yourself in the Casey Anthony case. And, because you are such a misfit, you decided to make yourself out to be someone who can speak with "authority". Even though that's a joke in this case. It makes you feel good and validates your nic. How sad. Those of us who post on Caylee's forum care about Caylee. You, seem more concerned about your own ego and your own somewhat "cryptic' posts, and I say that kindly, because they are mostly childish. Your bizarre manner of posting as an absolute desolves any credibilty that you may seek to have and makes you a target of random ridicule. Actually, you make yourself a target of ridicule. I guess some people like to embarass themselves.

Rose, you are starting to remind me of a poster who went completely off the deep end a few weeks ago. Your personal attacks are not acceptable.

[trt]

I know it seems OT, but congratulations! That is such a blessing and a miracle!...It is ON Topic, because it proves that miracles happen!:)
Right now, I'm praying for a miracle that recovers this sweet childs remains for a proper burial. Caylee deserves the honor of being placed lovingly someplace special. Even though she is beyond Earthly concerns.
JMO.

:rose: I agree...congrats rose.

:rose:Caylee

[Lostgirl]

Sorry but I've been working long hours for the last few days and havent had a chance to keep up with the happenings.

I just heard that Casey has gone from a "person of interest" to a "suspect" and I'm wondering what people are thinking, the general consensus if there is one as far as what changed?

Do you think they found something new? got back some additional forensic tests? or do you think maybe they've just finished organizing what they had and decided that it was enough to change her status?

thanks in advance for any insight :)

[GrannyB]

They did not see it. Lee said the officer had his back turned or had left the room.


I know it happened I just don't remember the details. So Lee ratted out Cindy? If so I wonder why.

[sunbunny]

http://thedailybs.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/tdbscover.jpg


:chicken:

:lol: thanks for the snicker! now i can crawl into bed with a smile on my face! :D

[GrannyB]

Granny B
Yes and with Tim if she thought there was no body then fine maybe they would find other evidence. Maybe something that led away from Casey. Why not just help promote the search at least?
But she obviously was not thinking along those lines.

I am sure also she did not want nor expect that interview with LE to get out. Whoops! Cats out of the bag AGAIN Cindy!


I wonder if Cindy watched herself when that was released?

[bchand]

http://thedailybs.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/tdbscover.jpg


:chicken:

lol Oh my - is that Lee as a knight in shining armor? Well his armor has rusted IMO.

Here's the list with your date entered.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/ArrestTable.jpg

[aubrey04]

Of course there is.

The reason is... there never was a Blackjack phone for Casey to have in her possession.

Another Casey fabrication.

If the separate account existed/the blackjack phone - then phone calls from that number/phone would have showed on Ricardo, Amy, Brittany and TonE's, etc.. phone records.. which to my knowledge has never been discussed or released in the doc drops.

Therefore I definitely do NOT think the blackjack exists. It was an excuse that Casey came up with to explain why there would be no record of phone calls from her to the nanny, IMO.

Or it could be another one of her elaborate lies which really have no value at all. Just more baseless lies fabricated because.....?? she can't help herself and she's a pathological, psycho liar?

[5boxersmom]

Cindy says in her interview Jesse had motive. What would that be? Send Casey to prison for life? Why?

[GrannyB]

Cindy says in her interview Jesse had motive. What would that be? Send Casey to prison for life? Why?


I think what Cindy meant in Cindy speak was you little piece of .....
talking about me in your interview with LE. I get you now, watch me.

[brodysho]

Just thinking aloud..
Steff had me thinking earlier about what transcripts are missing from the document dump... and if we look at whats missing, we might be able to find more clues (or something to that effect)

It was noted that annie's interview is missing, and looking at her myspace her quote says..."she's got a smile on her face, and a f*** you attitude, because from this day on, she's living life for herself".

I wonder what this girl knows?

[5boxersmom]

If the separate account existed/the blackjack phone - then phone calls from that number/phone would have showed on Ricardo, Amy, Brittany and TonE's, etc.. phone records.. which to my knowledge has never been discussed or released in the doc drops.

Therefore I definitely do NOT think the blackjack exists. It was an excuse that Casey came up with to explain why there would be no record of phone calls from her to the nanny, IMO.

Or it could be another one of her elaborate lies which really have no value at all. Just more baseless lies fabricated because.....?? she can't help herself and she's a pathological, psycho liar?

I wonder if one of Casey's friends did have a BJ and was having the problems with keeping it charged. I know a poster posted here about the same thing with their BJ.

You know how Casey takes on other peoples stories as her own.

jmo

[GrannyB]

I wonder if one of Casey's friends did have a BJ and was having the problems with keeping it charged. I know a poster posted here about the same thing with their BJ.

You know how Casey takes on other peoples stories as her own.

jmo

I bet everyone in that family has one of those throw away phones now.

[Rayosunshine]

IMO 24 hours is way to long to wait to report a 3 year old missing.

5 minutes and I am screaming like a loon!

[impartial]

I believe I saw in one of those phone bills of Casey's that she had made a $500.oo dollar payment. We know she spent about that much at AT&T (correct?) so I dont think she did actually buy a phone like it has been surmised by the amount she spent there.

It's late, I just finished a box of Godiva chocs., so the sugar may be playing with my memory ... didn't somewhere along the line Casey say that the phones had the same telephone number?

Also, somewhere in the document dump, was there a charge or receipt for a Blackjack phone? Or did I dream this?

[GrannyB]

It's late, I just finished a box of Godiva chocs., so the sugar may be playing with my memory ... didn't somewhere along the line Casey say that the phones had the same telephone number?

Also, somewhere in the document dump, was there a charge or receipt for a Blackjack phone? Or did I dream this?


IIRC she said she was switching the sims card between the two phones. So if that was true wouldn't the calls she made show up on the list we saw even if it was another phone?

[5boxersmom]

It has been proven time & again the Anthonys will say anything to divert attention away from the true culprit.

Their daughter.

Casey Anthony.

ITA. Just saying it makes no sense to blame Jesse.

jmo

[aubrey04]

Sorry but I've been working long hours for the last few days and havent had a chance to keep up with the happenings.

I just heard that Casey has gone from a "person of interest" to a "suspect" and I'm wondering what people are thinking, the general consensus if there is one as far as what changed?

Do you think they found something new? got back some additional forensic tests? or do you think maybe they've just finished organizing what they had and decided that it was enough to change her status?

thanks in advance for any insight :)

Hey lostgirl,

There have been a few revelations the last few days. Yes, she has now accumulated an upgraded status with LE -- she's now a "SUSPECT", not a "person of interest". Also, Sheriff Beary stated a few days ago that they are working on a difficult "homicide case" - when a reporter asked him what he'd like to say to people complaining about why it is taking so long for them to charge her with murder.

So LE definitely think Caylee was a victim of a homicide.. and they are calling Casey the prime suspect.

Also, one of the local Orlando websites stated that they have heard through their sources that Casey is expected to be charged in connection with Caylee's murder within the next few weeks. (the link to that article is in the links thread -- the 2nd to last page..sorry I am too lazy to go and grab it for you).

Also, LE searchers went out to two locations today to search for Caylee's remains. An eye witness claims she saw a car similar to Casey's at a certain area by the Orlando airport and a girl wearing a baseball cap - heading out into a wooded area. The other location is near Amscot & the Anthony home.. where cell phone pings from Casey's phone were pin pointed.

I hope that helps.

[impartial]

You must have dreamt it.

There is no Blackjack phone.

Thanks ...

[Rayosunshine]

I agree with the attacks not being acceptable. I don't think the rules of this forum allow it either. Thanks to you and others for your words of support.


And thanks for your support too, Scooby.

[5boxersmom]

I bet everyone in that family has one of those throw away phones now.

Yep.....:)

[GrannyB]

5 minutes and I am screaming like a loon!

Happend to me once when my daughter was 5. Her and a friend were missing from school. When I found out I told them to send LE to our apts. Sure enough that's where they were. Stupid manager gave them the key to apt. when she ask the office for it. She wanted to show her friend something new she had. The apt. was 5 miles from the school and they walked all the way. Go to the apt was all I could think of and after that I was just numb waiting to see if they were there. My mind couldn't go past that.

[aubrey04]

It's late, I just finished a box of Godiva chocs., so the sugar may be playing with my memory ... didn't somewhere along the line Casey say that the phones had the same telephone number?

Also, somewhere in the document dump, was there a charge or receipt for a Blackjack phone? Or did I dream this?

Hey impartial,

I have been looking for you. I got a question.. There was some debate on here about whether or not evidence used in Casey's child neglect trial can be used in a murder trial against her. Some people were saying it could NOT be used, but I don't think that's right.. Can you spare some insight into this?

(by the way, I didn't see any evidence that a blackjack was purchased, just that a large sum of $ was paid to ATT -- I assumed it was to pay for her cell phone bill, not a phone.. I could be wrong..)

[Rayosunshine]

Does anyone know if LE brought the cadaver dogs with them?

[GrannyB]

I never really looked at the receipts... hm. anybody else?


I missed the receipts. Anyone have a link?

[tiny paw-prints]

Ok, I did the best I could with my eyes crossing. Hope I got everyone:


When Will Casey Be Arrested?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v711/Bettychand/whenwillcaseybearrested.jpg

Good Job! :seeya:

I also wager some kind of an announcement that the church vigil will be cancelled for this Sunday.

[5boxersmom]

Yes and juggle trying to find a new job and hiding a kid!! And in the beginning around that interview time she was telling us it was a different kind of kidnapper......someone who love her and wanted her as their own.....Now we know who she had in mind and was accusing to LE....

Well okay he loved and cared about Caylee, So what is that HIS BAD?

Then it changed to Caylee is in danger, the kidnappers are being watched. :rolleyes:

jmo

[aubrey04]

I believe I saw in one of those phone bills of Casey's that she had made a $500.oo dollar payment. We know she spent about that much at AT&T (correct?) so I dont think she did actually buy a phone like it has been surmised by the amount she spent there.

Right. I agree.. and didn't she pay for the AT&T bill with one of Amy's checks? If so, how did she expect to get away with it?

:rolleyes:

[GrannyB]

Then it changed to Caylee is in danger, the kidnappers are being watched. :rolleyes:

jmo


Yep the kidnappers are being watched by that web cam sitting in front of their house.

[GrannyB]

Right. I agree.. and didn't she pay for the AT&T bill with one of Amy's checks? If so, how did she expect to get away with it?

:rolleyes:

I think that is one of my biggest questions. Do the Anthony's really think they are going to get away with all of this? Don't they know they are just getting all of them in trouble?

[barskin&co.]

Yep the kidnappers are being watched by that web cam sitting in front of their house.

Good one, Granny! :D

[aubrey04]

Yep the kidnappers are being watched by that web cam sitting in front of their house.


OMG!!! haha :lol: <-- I hate using this emoticon on this thread about poor little Caylee, but wow.. it was warranted.

Best post of the day!!

(and pretty accurate, IMO).

[5boxersmom]

Yep the kidnappers are being watched by that web cam sitting in front of their house.

You got that right. :)

jmo

[Lostgirl]

I wonder if Cindy watched herself when that was released?


I'd guess she watched it over and over and is probably wondering if she'll be nominated for an oscar

[Lostgirl]

Yep the kidnappers are being watched by that web cam sitting in front of their house.


good one GrannyB

What ever happened to "Casey knows where she is, who has her blah blah. cayle will be home for her birthday blah blah"

the Anthonys are unbelievable, they just say any damn thing they want and then they move on to a new story when the last one isnt working anymore.

one of the strangest things I've ever seen!

[GrannyB]

I'd guess she watched it over and over and is probably wondering if she'll be nominated for an oscar

ROLMAO I bet she didn't see a thing wrong with it.

[5boxersmom]

good one GrannyB

What ever happened to "Casey knows where she is, who has her blah blah. cayle will be home for her birthday blah blah"

the Anthonys are unbelievable, they just say any damn thing they want and then they move on to a new story when the last one isnt working anymore.

one of the strangest things I've ever seen!

"We need to get Casey out of jail. She will talk to us then and lead us to Caylee." What happen to that? She has been out how long now? "She will talk to Lee." Yeah right.

jmo

[Lostgirl]

ROLMAO I bet she didn't see a thing wrong with it.


I agree, the anthony family just DOESN'T get it!

bunch of fruit loops, poor little caylee she never stood a chance with that gang :cuss:

[barskin&co.]

"We need to get Casey out of jail. She will talk to us then and lead us to Caylee." What happen to that? She has been out how long now? "She will talk to Lee." Yeah right.

jmo

What happened? You know, mom! This happened:

Thursday, Casey's attorney said it's not in her best interest to tell what she knows about where Caylee is.

"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html

[Lostgirl]

"We need to get Casey out of jail. She will talk to us then and lead us to Caylee." What happen to that? She has been out how long now? "She will talk to Lee." Yeah right.

jmo

I know!

what the hell?? how do they do that with a straight face?

Ciindy and George get all indignant and yell at people, blah blah... oh ya remember the "it was a different dead body in the trunk put there by someone else" or whatever that stupid statement was... like as if dead bodies are tossed into trunks of parked cars on a daily basis!

hammer

[Pag Boi]

respectfully snipped...

IMO, these young adults were hesitant to say they owned a lighter, for goodness sake. some went to school, some worked and went to school, some just worked and they all partied.

amy and casey were not life long friends...they hardly knew each other. fast friendship that ended with a missing child and major theft. she cleaned her out....that's pretty scary stuff thinking she would be able to lie out of that?

that's what the world at large is up against when dealing with Casey A....the jaw drops if one has never encountered that persona....well, it still drops even when you recognize the deficiency....

Im more interested in Kristine Chester's interview. surely they interviewed her.

best regards,
Pru



Amy considered herself a good friend. I thought Amy knew Casey for several years? Amy let Casey stay with her for several weeks. I thought they all hung out as a group? Casey was invited on the PR trip per Troy's interview.

Lauren, Ryan and Britney knew Casey for many, many years. They all described her as a mom that loved her child. She stole from her grandparents, parents, brother and long time friends.

Casey had successfully lied her way out of everything, her whole life. Why would she think this time would be any different? IMO, Casey thought she'd lie/lay her way right out of LE's interview at Universal Studios. Nothing has changed her MO judging by her 'friendship' with Baez. JMOO tho

[Grayson]

Sociopaths are beyond accurate when describing thease people.
Also I give alot of credit to Nancy Grace, it seems to me she has been the only tv journalist who is really being honest and not letting this case being "swept under the rug" and not going away from the spotlight. I mean a missing baby and no one gets prosecuted, if Nancy Grace doesn't cover this story. IS how I see it. She is by far my favorite tv journalist by far.

[barskin&co.]

Amy considered herself a good friend. I thought Amy knew Casey for several years? Amy let Casey stay with her for several weeks. I thought they all hung out as a group? Casey was invited on the PR trip per Troy's interview.

Lauren, Ryan and Britney knew Casey for many, many years. They all described her as a mom that loved her child. She stole from her grandparents, parents, brother and long time friends.

Casey had successfully lied her way out of everything, her whole life. Why would she think this time would be any different? IMO, Casey thought she'd lie/lay her way right out of LE's interview at Universal Studios. Nothing has changed her MO judging by her 'friendship' with Baez. JMOO tho

Amy met Casey about a year before this whole mess began, and 6 months of that time, she was working on a cruise ship. They got to be very good friends; Amy didn't have enough time to find out what Casey was really like.

As for people who thought she was a good mother. Well, they saw little snap shots, that's all.

[barskin&co.]

Yes.

They.

Cindy won't get away with her lies.

George won't get away with his lies.

Casey won't get away with her lies.

Casey won't get away with murder.

They won't get away with any of the above.

And, I say to you, Amen!

[GrannyB]

Yes and ENTER Lenny!.......That sure did backfire on them!!


What the Anthony's are doing is way past I don't want to believe my child did this. That I could understand IF they were doing anything to find Caylee. They don't want Caylee found. Something is wrong. It's why I'm not sure who did what and when.

[beamer42]

its late but I seem to remember that Casey stated her "universal job" provided both phones? But since she was not employed at universal during the time frame she stated - well I just chalk it up to another lie.

You must have dreamt it.

There is no Blackjack phone.

There is no charge or receipt for a Blackjack phone listed in the documents.

[AustinsMama]

It's late- I'm too tired to go through the posts. Anything new happen today? Will Casey be arrested soon? I'm sure there aren't a lot of ppl on...just thought I'd try. TIA!

:)

[Lostgirl]

Everytime I watch Cindys video interview it blows my mind.

She sits there blabbing on and on and on with detail after detail about that long winded BS story of Casey, Juliet Lewis, Zanny and the 2 kids on that business trip.. hotel rooms, staying over an extra night, car crashes, Zanny and her sister or whatever in hospital with broken limbs etc etc, Casey standing vigil at the hospital, Zannys mom notified and on her way... YAP YAP YAP

Then the cop finally tells her "THAT IS ALL A LIE" no car crash, no hospital, no business trip, NO ZANNY period! no Juliette Lewis.. etc etc...

and Cindy is totally unfazed hearing this... she just looks at him like uh huh.. and,, and carried on!

If that was me and I was just told that the ENTIRE huge story i just related to the cops was a LIE from start to finish.. i would be LIVID!.. I would want to know DETAILS of how they determined it was a lie, I would be ANGRY at my daughter, I would be frustrated at the thought of having been played... and so on and so on.

Not Cindy... she just flips it off like.. no big deal...

I don't understand the woman, heck i dont understand the family period!

[impartial]

Hey impartial,

I have been looking for you. I got a question.. There was some debate on here about whether or not evidence used in Casey's child neglect trial can be used in a murder trial against her. Some people were saying it could NOT be used, but I don't think that's right.. Can you spare some insight into this?

(by the way, I didn't see any evidence that a blackjack was purchased, just that a large sum of $ was paid to ATT -- I assumed it was to pay for her cell phone bill, not a phone.. I could be wrong..)

Double jeopardy attaches to the evidence of the acts/conduct, and not the charge. The easiest case to explain it (I posted the link to the case a while ago, I don't have the link handy right now) ... A man was charged with arson, another man was killed in the fire. After the perp was tried for arson, the State tried to file charges for felony murder ... the case was dismissed on the grounds of double jeopardy ... the evidence that proved arson was the same evidence to prove the felony murder, and jeopardy attached to that evidence in the arson trial.


IMO

[5boxersmom]

What happened? You know, mom! This happened:



http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html

Yep, that happen. :)



OMG Boxer.........By George I think you may have set a light bulb off in my head........

Do you suppose when George said they had people watching them he meant Jesse and his family? And remember Cindy saying how Jesse had a temper.......Blah......Blah.....Blah!!.......GAWD maybe that is why all of a sudden she was in danger because Cindy just "remembered" that spat with him.

Poor Caylee......I just cannot fathom this is really happening at times.

Jesse was probably the only person who called Cindy on her control and she never forgot it. NEVER.

I know!

what the hell?? how do they do that with a straight face?

Ciindy and George get all indignant and yell at people, blah blah... oh ya remember the "it was a different dead body in the trunk put there by someone else" or whatever that stupid statement was... like as if dead bodies are tossed into trunks of parked cars on a daily basis!

hammer

They have come up with some stupid theories I must admit. :lol: Why would anyone take the time to do that?

[Lostgirl]

*snipped*

I hope that helps.

oh thank you Aubrey!

Yes that helps a lot... all i heard was her status was changed and i tried looking through some threads to see if any reason was given, maybe some new evidence or something.

I had no idea about any of the things you mentioned.

I am going to go read that link you mention.

thanks again! :)

[Amy]

HI HOUSE........Well I know George said it but did Cindy and Lee?

I don't recall whether or not Lee said anything about Casey's lying, but I do remember Cindy saying it. It could have been in a newsreport, or maybe on a tv interview. She didn't exactly say you can't believe anything she says, because she lies, but she did say Casey has lied to her in the past, or something on those lines.

Even @ the time, I was wondering why Cindy would repeat things Casey said, considering she was known to lie.

[GrannyB]

Yep, that happen. :)





Jesse was probably the only person who called Cindy on her control and she never forgot it. NEVER.



They have come up with some stupid theories I must admit. :lol: Why would anyone take the time to do that?


Cindy and being called on her control was a death sentence to any marriage between Jesse and Casey.


I think if we knew why they were coming up with the stupid theories we would have most of our questions answered. If anyone could make this worse than it already is the Anthony's sure could.

[5boxersmom]

Everytime I watch Cindys video interview it blows my mind.

She sits there blabbing on and on and on with detail after detail about that long winded BS story of Casey, Juliet Lewis, Zanny and the 2 kids on that business trip.. hotel rooms, staying over an extra night, car crashes, Zanny and her sister or whatever in hospital with broken limbs etc etc, Casey standing vigil at the hospital, Zannys mom notified and on her way... YAP YAP YAP

Then the cop finally tells her "THAT IS ALL A LIE" no car crash, no hospital, no business trip, NO ZANNY period! no Juliette Lewis.. etc etc...

and Cindy is totally unfazed hearing this... she just looks at him like uh huh.. and,, and carried on!

If that was me and I was just told that the ENTIRE huge story i just related to the cops was a LIE from start to finish.. i would be LIVID!.. I would want to know DETAILS of how they determined it was a lie, I would be ANGRY at my daughter, I would be frustrated at the thought of having been played... and so on and so on.

Not Cindy... she just flips it off like.. no big deal...

I don't understand the woman, heck i dont understand the family period!

And where was Caylee when Casey was standing vigil at the hospital? Why didn't Cindy ask this?

jmo

[barskin&co.]

Everytime I watch Cindys video interview it blows my mind.

She sits there blabbing on and on and on with detail after detail about that long winded BS story of Casey, Juliet Lewis, Zanny and the 2 kids on that business trip.. hotel rooms, staying over an extra night, car crashes, Zanny and her sister or whatever in hospital with broken limbs etc etc, Casey standing vigil at the hospital, Zannys mom notified and on her way... YAP YAP YAP

Then the cop finally tells her "THAT IS ALL A LIE" no car crash, no hospital, no business trip, NO ZANNY period! no Juliette Lewis.. etc etc...

and Cindy is totally unfazed hearing this... she just looks at him like uh huh.. and,, and carried on!

If that was me and I was just told that the ENTIRE huge story i just related to the cops was a LIE from start to finish.. i would be LIVID!.. I would want to know DETAILS of how they determined it was a lie, I would be ANGRY at my daughter, I would be frustrated at the thought of having been played... and so on and so on.

Not Cindy... she just flips it off like.. no big deal...

I don't understand the woman, heck i dont understand the family period!

That gets me, too. She says that she didn't believe there was a "Zanny" anymore, and simultaneously, she offers up this story.
She told Amy, she suspected Casey didn't have a job, yet she describes this involved business trip, with her employer footing the bill for child care plus hotel rooms for the nanny and children! Wow, that's a deal I've never heard of, yet Cindy talks about like it sounds perfectly reasonable, and she's a been a working mother herself. And you're right; revelations do not faze her- from Casey or LE. Oh you don't like that story, well, Amy did it. Wait, make that Jesse.

[5boxersmom]

Cindy and being called on her control was a death sentence to any marriage between Jesse and Casey.


I think if we knew why they were coming up with the stupid theories we would have most of our questions answered. If anyone could make this worse than it already is the Anthony's sure could.

ITA. Jesse was doomed from that day forward.

They think it sounds good so they put it out there thinking everyone will believe it. :rolleyes:

[GrannyB]

I think after the 911 call with LE all over the place that is when they realized how serious it all was and how much trouble Casey was in. AND that is when the tide turned and especially Cindy stated on a downward spiral thinking she could save Casey. Problem is it is impossible to save both Caylee and Casey......you can only do one or the other. That is what Lenny found out. As it turns out Cindy has helped neither.


Why did she make the 911 call? It didn't start out about Caylee it was about money and a car. It hasn't made sense since the first 911 call and it keeps getting worse. Why did George go back to work because Cindy told him to? He is ex-LE. He knew what he should do. Why did Casey even go with Cindy from Tony's? Lee said he hadn't seen them for a year and George calls and he runs over?

[MoonFlwr]

Cindy said in a media interview:

Casey has lied to me in the past but she always tells me the truth.

Paraphrased.

Oh man! :rolleyes:

[5boxersmom]

That gets me, too. She says that she didn't believe there was a "Zanny" anymore, and simultaneously, she offers up this story.
She told Amy, she suspected Casey didn't have a job, yet she describes this involved business trip, with her employer footing the bill for child care plus hotel rooms for the nanny and children! Wow, that's a deal I've never heard of, yet Cindy talks about like it sounds perfectly reasonable, and she's a been a working mother herself. And you're right; revelations do not faze her- from Casey or LE. Oh you don't like that story, well, Amy did it. Wait, make that Jesse.

Really. How many places have this kind of benefits. She didn't even finish High School. I would not have believed it if it was my kid.

Just saying.

jmo

[Lostgirl]

And where was Caylee when Casey was standing vigil at the hospital? Why didn't Cindy ask this?

jmo

well the story was so long and stupid i think she said that Juliet Lewis was now sitting with the kids at the hotel while she stood vigil at Zannys bedside.

I was just floored how even after the detective said to Cindy "IT'S ALL A LIE, NONE OF THAT HAPPENED"

Cindy didnt blink an eye.. just carried on with more useless information and obsessing over calendar dates and nonsense.. and denial.

I felt like i had passed into the Twilight Zone... all that was missing was eerie music and Rod Serling (sp?) :shrug:

[Lostgirl]

That gets me, too. She says that she didn't believe there was a "Zanny" anymore, and simultaneously, she offers up this story.
She told Amy, she suspected Casey didn't have a job, yet she describes this involved business trip, with her employer footing the bill for child care plus hotel rooms for the nanny and children! Wow, that's a deal I've never heard of, yet Cindy talks about like it sounds perfectly reasonable, and she's a been a working mother herself. And you're right; revelations do not faze her- from Casey or LE. Oh you don't like that story, well, Amy did it. Wait, make that Jesse.

exactly barskin, it's like bizarro world, white is black and black is white and when that doesnt work it's all gray!

[5boxersmom]

well the story was so long and stupid i think she said that Juliet Lewis was now sitting with the kids at the hotel while she stood vigil at Zannys bedside.

I was just floored how even after the detective said to Cindy "IT'S ALL A LIE, NONE OF THAT HAPPENED"

Cindy didnt blink an eye.. just carried on with more useless information and obsessing over calendar dates and nonsense.. and denial.

I felt like i had passed into the Twilight Zone... all that was missing was eerie music and Rod Serling (sp?) :shrug:

Oh how convenient there just happen to be someone there to watch the kids. I would have at least offered to go get my grandchild.

JMO

[GrannyB]

exactly barskin, it's like bizarro world, white is black and black is white and when that doesnt work it's all gray!


It's all gray or we are all so stupid we don't understand what she really said. And remember mistruths don't count as lies. Cindy told us so.

[barskin&co.]

Cindy said in a media interview:

Casey has lied to me in the past but she always tells me the truth.

Paraphrased.

Ah, yes, she said it at the bond hearing:

"Casey's lied to me in the past and when she's lied she's always told me the truth,"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,389642,00.html

It was when we began our trip through the looking glass and one of our first tastes of "Anthonyspeak."

[Lostgirl]

Really. How many places have this kind of benefits. She didn't even finish High School. I would not have believe it if it was my kid.

Just saying.

jmo

that's what i kept thinking!

no little pee on position like Casey had with the amount of time she had worked for Universal would have an expense acct like THAT!

hotel rooms, provisions for nannies, traveling, you name it... they footed the bill because casey was such a high end executive!

How could a woman who has worked as long as Cindy has not know that that was BS?

:punch:

[GrannyB]

Oh how convenient there just happen to be someone there to watch the kids. I would have at least offered to go get my grandchild.

JMO



So would I. That just made me think of another question. It was said that Cindy had been going to counseling and had been advised to try and get custody of Caylee. So on the 15 after this big fight most think Cindy refused to babysit so Casey left with Caylee. I would think Cindy would have kept Caylee there as that would have given her one more reason to gain custody of Caylee.

[Pag Boi]

Amy met Casey about a year before this whole mess began, and 6 months of that time, she was working on a cruise ship. They got to be very good friends; Amy didn't have enough time to find out what Casey was really like.

As for people who thought she was a good mother. Well, they saw little snap shots, that's all.

I understand about the snap shots that Casey was a good mother. I was replying to Pru's post that Amy "hardly knew her." I don't see it that way.

Everyone that knew Casey_at all_____ knew she lied. No matter how well or how long they knew her. They seemed to overlook and excuse her mistakes. Not just her family. Why?

[Lostgirl]

Oh how convenient there just happen to be someone there to watch the kids. I would have at least offered to go get my grandchild.

JMO

i know the whole thing was ridiculous

IIRC Juliet Lewis had her kid along on the trip too and Zanny was also her nanny... so the 2 big executives had nannies with them on their busienss trip looking after their kids and then after the nanny got in a car crash Juliet had to go look after her own kid and caylee.

sheesh I'm surprised Casey didnt just pick up the phone and place a call to England to fly over a replacement nanny all expenses paid by universal :tongue:

[5boxersmom]

that's what i kept thinking!

no little pee on position like Casey had with the amount of time she had worked for Universal would have an expense acct like THAT!

hotel rooms, provisions for nannies, traveling, you name it... they footed the bill because casey was such a high end executive!

How could a woman who has worked as long as Cindy has not know that that was BS?

:punch:

Yeah, If they were going to give Casey all of this you would think they would at least make sure she got a GED and maybe some college classes.

I don't know why Cindy would buy the story. I really don't.

jmo

[Lostgirl]

!

YIP!!.....You got it LostGirl...When I here that whole trip story....I keep thinking.......MONEY it takes money lots of it to do all that stuff. That is just days after the Fathers Day smack down. And just days before Cindy would write the her infamous myspace comments about all the ways Casey has screwed her INCLUDING stealing lots of money from her. And the gas cans!!.........Did Cindy not wonder where Casey was getting her money?

exactly TREETREE,

I havent held any huge executive positions or anything but i have worked at a couple different large companys for YEARS and i have been assistant to VP and different positions at the companies i have worked for and no one has ever offered me expense accts like THAT!

holy cow, to listen to Casey you;d think she was Angelina Jolie traveling with her entourage! :lol:

Casey didnt even finish highschool and had worked there a couple months or whatever, theres no way they'd be footing the bill for such a trip

[5boxersmom]

So would I. That just made me think of another question. It was said that Cindy had been going to counseling and had been advised to try and get custody of Caylee. So on the 15 after this big fight most think Cindy refused to babysit so Casey left with Caylee. I would think Cindy would have kept Caylee there as that would have given her one more reason to gain custody of Caylee.

I am not so sure Casey would call Cindy to babysit a day after they had a big fight. Maybe, but if nothing else Casey has proven to be very stubborn.

jmo

[Lostgirl]

HEY I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!!
If Casey was doing that good at work why was Caylee not covered by health benefits.......why did Cindy have to cover that.

And remember Casey had to go to hospital for a seizure I think at the beginning of 08.......who paid for that?

in Caseys world...who knows, probably Donald Trump or something! :lol:

[5boxersmom]

HEY I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!!
If Casey was doing that good at work why was Caylee not covered by health benefits.......why did Cindy have to cover that.

And remember Casey had to go to hospital for a seizure I think at the beginning of 08.......who paid for that?

Yeah, I think they would have Health Benefits before nanny services and paying for trips and hotel rooms. :shrug:

jmo

[Pag Boi]

The people who have said Casey was a good mother... what they mean to say is:

Casey was a good babysitter.

Casey was obviously a terrible mother. And that's putting it in an unbannable way.



From what I have read, I don't even see how Casey could have been considered a babysitter, much less a good one.

[GrannyB]

I am not so sure Casey would call Cindy to babysit a day after they had a big fight. Maybe, but if nothing else Casey has proven to be very stubborn.

jmo

I don't mean Casey and Caylee leaving and then Casey called the next day.
I mean Casey getting mad and leaving that night and not taking Caylee with her.

[5boxersmom]

I don't mean Casey and Caylee leaving and then Casey called the next day.
I mean Casey getting mad and leaving that night and not taking Caylee with her.

I think the big fight was about Casey stealing from the GP's and she was mad and took Caylee with her to punish Cindy.

jmo

[GrannyB]

I think the big fight was about Casey stealing from the GP's and she was mad and took Caylee with her to punish Cindy.

jmo

According to Cindy and George they were there the next day. That's what makes me think Casey may have left but Caylee didn't. Why lie if they weren't there?

[Lostgirl]

Cindy and George enable Caseys deception

Theres no way a former member of LE and an Registered nurse don't know that Caseys stories don't pass the laugh test!

My aunt who is 87 years old was asking me about this case the other day because she knows i am trying to follow it and she is interested but can't follow along as much as she would like because of health problems.

I played Cindys interviews and she was dumbfounded that ANYONE would believe such a cock and bull story!

plus she said something very true... she said most mothers can TELL when their child is lying even if it's a small lie... you just know your own child so well that you pick up on little things that others wouldnt.

I know I am like that with my own kids.

So if anyone would have known that it was BS it's Cindy!

And Cindy DID KNOW... thats why in the 911 call she was distraught and said "the damn car smells like a DEAD BODY and my grand daughter is missing!!!"

She knew! and she knew the business trip story was BS too!

JMO

[5boxersmom]

I do ..

Cindy is none too smart, that's why ..

Wonder if Cindy talked to her coworkers about Casey's job, nanny, paid hotel rooms and such? :shrug:

[5boxersmom]

According to Cindy and George they were there the next day. That's what makes me think Casey may have left but Caylee didn't. Why lie if they weren't there?

They lie about everything. I don't know.

jmo

[Lostgirl]

I think a lot of this case has to do with something my 87 yr old aunt said..

"The fruit don't fall too far from the tree"

We have seen that Cindy is a liar

Look how she has twisted the "dead body" and turned it into a "rotten pizza" and other things.

Casey has learned her craft and I think she learned it from an expert... her mother. :rolleyes:

JMO

[5boxersmom]

Cindy and George enable Caseys deception

Theres no way a former member of LE and an Registered nurse don't know that Caseys stories don't pass the laugh test!

My aunt who is 87 years old was asking me about this case the other day because she knows i am trying to follow it and she is interested but can't follow along as much as she would like because of health problems.

I played Cindys interviews and she was dumbfounded that ANYONE would believe such a cock and bull story!

plus she said something very true... she said most mothers can TELL when their child is lying even if it's a small lie... you just know your own child so well that you pick up on little things that others wouldnt.

I know I am like that with my own kids.

So if anyone would have known that it was BS it's Cindy!

And Cindy DID KNOW... thats why in the 911 call she was distraught and said "the damn car smells like a DEAD BODY and my grand daughter is missing!!!"

She knew! and she knew the business trip story was BS too!

JMO

What a smart aunt you have. :)

My 92 year old grandmother before she passed in August when I was visting her in the nursing home said you know that mom killed that baby when we were watching tv about the case.

FWIW my mom also said SP would be found guilty before he was. She passed away before the verdict.

My son would always have a little smile on his face when he was trying to lie. Total give away. Yep, most mothers know, but do they admit it?

jmo

[Lostgirl]

oh and remember how George said about seeing Casey driving Cindys truck and he said he told Cindy about it and he tried chasing after casey but she got away into traffic?

but Cindy didnt know that George had told the cops that so what did she do when the cops asked her??

She Lied just like Casey does.

[GrannyB]

oh and remember how George said about seeing Casey driving Cindys truck and he said he told Cindy about it and he tried chasing after casey but she got away into traffic?

but Cindy didnt know that George had told the cops that so what did she do when the cops asked her??

She Lied just like Casey does.



A lot of time passed between the car and Casey being picked up and LE arriving at that house. A lot of time to plan and set this up. They are all in on it and all belong in jail.

[Lostgirl]

What a smart aunt you have. :)

My 92 year old grandmother before she passed in August when I was visting her in the nursing home said you know that mom killed that baby when we were watching tv about the case.

FWIW my mom also said SP would be found guilty before he was. She passed away before the verdict.

My son would always have a little smile on his face when he was trying to lie. Total give away. Yep, most mothers know, but do they admit it?

jmo

exactly boxermom..

If my aunt who is old and has health problems etc can figure out that the girl is lying and that her stories don't add up.... how the heck could Cindy not know?

and WHY did Cindy think it was important to deny the thing about Casey driving her truck?

I bet she flew into George after finding out he had spilled the beans!

I woulda loved being a fly on the wall :tongue:

[nc1948]

O.J. was found to be not guilty of double murder.

I know for a fact O.J. is indeed guilty of said murders.

Just as I know Casey is indeed guilty of murder in this case.

My son asked tonight what was going on in this case. I told him latest and then stated that I was sure Casey would be convicted, but I was not sure what degree of murder it would be. He says 'OJ and michael jackson both got off, Don't be so sure" IT has made me sick thinking about it.

[Lostgirl]

A lot of time passed between the car and Casey being picked up and LE arriving at that house. A lot of time to plan and set this up. They are all in on it and all belong in jail.

exactly granny, theres something rotten in the Anthony home and it isn't a PIZZA!


Look how Cindy pocketed that money when the female officer left her and lee alone with the contents of the bag and walked outside.

If Lee hadnt spilled the beans to the police they never would have known!

Cindy is so full of it she's turning brown

[Lostgirl]

My son asked tonight what was going on in this case. I told him latest and then stated that I was sure Casey would be convicted, but I was not sure what degree of murder it would be. He says 'OJ and michael jackson both got off, Don't be so sure" IT has made me sick thinking about it.


Casey isn't a celebrity and in my opinion that's what saved OJ and MJ

[Lostgirl]

YES YES!!.......He may have even said she was with him......one way or the other she got caught in a lie!!!.......And it may have been to FBI!!!......That part of the tape was kind of garbled to me.. but she did lie!!!

yep! and the detectives knew it!

and in typical Cindy fashion she tries to change the subject and start blabbering on about other things like no one noticed that she got caught!

Casey is the same way... she lives in a make believe world where she thinks she is fooling everyone and if she doesnt acknowledge or admit then it didn't happen.

It is BIZARRE!

[5boxersmom]

exactly boxermom..

If my aunt who is old and has health problems etc can figure out that the girl is lying and that her stories don't add up.... how the heck could Cindy not know?

and WHY did Cindy think it was important to deny the thing about Casey driving her truck?

I bet she flew into George after finding out he had spilled the beans!

I woulda loved being a fly on the wall :tongue:

Sounds like your Aunt and my granny could have solved a few cases. :)

It is just common sense really. I bet George did get heck and Lee too for telling about the money.

jmo

[GrannyB]

YES YES!!.......He may have even said she was with him......one way or the other she got caught in a lie!!!.......And it may have been to FBI!!!......That part of the tape was kind of garbled to me.. but she did lie!!!


And this leads to another question. Cindy let Casey drive her car. Was Cindy driving Casey's? And why did she let Casey drive the car and why did she lie to LE. George didn't lie. Why did Cindy?

[Lostgirl]

Remember when Jesse said (i think it was in his interview) that he could see Casey having a breakdown and just hiding the body and then creating an alternate reality for herself and just move forward like that is what really happened.

I don;t think she had a "break down" I think she's just a sociopath and...

that's what sociopaths are like, they make their OWN reality of how things are and that's all that important to them.... as long as THEY arent suffering it's all okay because theydon't comprehend or feel compassion for the suffering or pain of others

[5boxersmom]

yep! and the detectives knew it!

and in typical Cindy fashion she tries to change the subject and start blabbering on about other things like no one noticed that she got caught!

Casey is the same way... she lives in a make believe world where she thinks she is fooling everyone and if she doesnt acknowledge or admit then it didn't happen.

It is BIZARRE!

Yep, Casey would say UH HUH when LE would tell her they knew it was a lie and then go on about working. :confused:

Just so strange. This whole family.

Lee lied to the protestor lady who had the dog too. You could tell he was lying. She said Lee I just talked to you and he said that must have been someone else. It had just happen minutes before. What is up with this family?

jmo

[Lostgirl]

And this leads to another question. Cindy let Casey drive her car. Was Cindy driving Casey's? And why did she let Casey drive the car and why did she lie to LE. George didn't lie. Why did Cindy?

THAT's what is bothering me Granny...

WHY would that be important enough to lie about?

So what? george saw casey in cindys truck and he chased after her... he lost her.. and he told Cindy.

Why would THAT need to be lied about?

:shrug:

[5boxersmom]

THAT's what is bothering me Granny...

WHY would that be important enough to lie about?

So what? george saw casey in cindys truck and he chased after her... he lost her.. and he told Cindy.

Why would THAT need to be lied about?

:shrug:

Because the story was that Casey and Caylee were missing for a month? That is the only thing I can think of. I don't think the body was in Cindy's car or the dogs would have hit on it. I just can't figure it out.

:confused:

jmo

[Lostgirl]

I agree with whoever refered to them as "GRIFTERS"

That describes the Anthonys to a TEE in my opinion.

This whole case STINKS

[GrannyB]

THAT's what is bothering me Granny...

WHY would that be important enough to lie about?

So what? george saw casey in cindys truck and he chased after her... he lost her.. and he told Cindy.

Why would THAT need to be lied about?

:shrug:


I'm trying to go back to the beginning and think this all thru. For right now I'm starting to wonder if George does really know what happened.
Maybe even Casey and Lee. Once Cindy says something they all seem to change their story. Why don't they all just stick to one? They make my head hurt.:confused:

[GrannyB]

Because the story was that Casey and Caylee were missing for a month? That is the only thing I can think of. I don't think the body was in Cindy's car or the dogs would have hit on it. I just can't figure it out.

:confused:

jmo


I don't think it was in Cindy's car either. But I don't think it was in Casey's car very long either. Just long enough to move the body.

[Lostgirl]

Because the story was that Casey and Caylee were missing for a month? That is the only thing I can think of. I don't think the body was in Cindy's car or the dogs would have hit on it. I just can't figure it out.

:confused:

jmo


me either boxermom... there has to be more to that or it doesnt make any sense to lie about it to police!

it's an insignificant thing... UNLESS theres a lot more to it

What about Casey driving Cindys car was so important that Cindy needed to lie about it?

and obviously George wasnt IN on that because he blabbed it out like it was no big deal, if Cindy had just said "oh yes i remember that... George said he saw her and he tried to catch her but she got away in traffic"

and that's what any normal person would say if it was no more than that... but Cindy felt she needed to lie about it

Why?

you're right... it must have something to do with the date or something?

[5boxersmom]

I don't think it was in Cindy's car either. But I don't think it was in Casey's car very long either. Just long enough to move the body.

But would the smell have been there that bad if the body was not there for a while?

[GrannyB]

me either boxermom... there has to be more to that or it doesnt make any sense to lie about it to police!

it's an insignificant thing... UNLESS theres a lot more to it

What about Casey driving Cindys car was so important that Cindy needed to lie about it?

and obviously George wasnt IN on that because he blabbed it out like it was no big deal, if Cindy had just said "oh yes i remember that... George said he saw her and he tried to catch her but she got away in traffic"

and that's what any normal person would say if it was no more than that... but Cindy felt she needed to lie about that

Why?


Because their next question would have been why did you let Casey drive your car. And why wouldn't she want to answer that. Maybe because she didn't know anyone knew about it and she needed to think up a lie to tell?

[5boxersmom]

me either boxermom... there has to be more to that or it doesnt make any sense to lie about it to police!

it's an insignificant thing... UNLESS theres a lot more to it

What about Casey driving Cindys car was so important that Cindy needed to lie about it?

and obviously George wasnt IN on that because he blabbed it out like it was no big deal, if Cindy had just said "oh yes i remember that... George said he saw her and he tried to catch her but she got away in traffic"

and that's what any normal person would say if it was no more than that... but Cindy felt she needed to lie about it

Why?

you're right... it must have something to do with the date or something?

I think it is because Cindy said on the stand that she had not seen Casey for a month. Also in the 911 call. Maybe she was telling George this also and George was telling Cindy this also. When they both had saw her. hammer

Does that make any sense?

jmo

[GrannyB]

But would the smell have been there that bad if the body was not there for a while?


With the fluids left in the car it would. And it couldn't have been too bad at first or everytime Casey got out of the car the smell would have been on her. Remember the tow truck man said when he and George got to the car in the lot he opened the passenger side door and it smelled then. Not just the trunk. The whole car smelled. Oh heck that makes me think of Casey saying George drove the car. She ran out of gas 2 Fridays in a row. So say George picked it up the first Friday to get gas for her. He leaves the car at their house til Casey comes to get it. He see's Casey in Cindy's car and trys to chase her and doesn't catch her. Geeeeeeeez I don't know.

[Lostgirl]

Because their next question would have been why did you let Casey drive your car. And why wouldn't she want to answer that. Maybe because she didn't know anyone knew about it and she needed to think up a lie to tell?

well theres definitely some reason that she lied about that

because really at face value compared to all the things in this case that seems so insignificant yet Cindy straight face LIED to the police when asked about it.

Cindy is sneaky and deceptive and I really believe that Casey learned it from her.

IMO those 2 feed off each others negative energy and it's almost like a boxing match and probably in the past Cindy always won... but this time Casey played her trump card and took Cindy's granddaughter away from her.

SICK SICK SICK! :confused:

[GrannyB]

I think if was around the 24 when George saw Casey in Cindy's car.
If the car was out of gas again on the 27th could explain why it ran out so fast if the gauge was really broken and Casey thought George had filled it. Someone drove that car with the body in it and more gas was gone than should have been.

[GrannyB]

well theres definitely some reason that she lied about that

because really at face value compared to all the things in this case that seems so insignificant yet Cindy straight face LIED to the police when asked about it.

Cindy is sneaky and deceptive and I really believe that Casey learned it from her.

IMO those 2 feed off each others negative energy and it's almost like a boxing match and probably in the past Cindy always won... but this time Casey played her trump card and took Cindy's granddaughter away from her.

SICK SICK SICK! :confused:


Not only did she lie she got off the subject real quick no long eleborate story to explain it.

[Lostgirl]

I think it is because Cindy said on the stand that she had not seen Casey for a month. Also in the 911 call. Maybe she was telling George this also and George was telling Cindy this also. When they both had saw her. hammer

Does that make any sense?

jmo

yep that makes total sense

the last time they saw Casey WASN'T on the 16th

It's got to be that or something similar because otherwise it makes no sense to lie about it

[5boxersmom]

This is what I think being a mom and grandma.

I think Cindy's 911 call was real. I can hear it in her voice. At first George never talked. We never heard from him. George may have knew the smell but denied it, but I wonder if he didn't help Casey out if you know what I mean. Then how violent he would get about the car smell.

I don't know where the Cindy vehicle fits in to the picture. I can't figure that one out. Was this around the time the car acciden in Casey's web of lies happen?

jmo

[GrannyB]

yep that makes total sense

the last time they saw Casey WASN'T on the 16th

It's got to be that or something similar because otherwise it makes no sense to lie about it


LE didn't push her on it either. I wonder if her reaction didn't answer some questions for them.

[Lostgirl]

This is what I think being a mom and grandma.

I think Cindy's 911 call was real. I can hear it in her voice. At first George never talked. We never heard from him. George may have knew the smell but denied it, but I wonder if he didn't help Casey out if you know what I mean. Then how violent he would get about the car smell.

I don't know where the Cindy vehicle fits in to the picture. I can't figure that one out. Was this around the time the car acciden in Casey's web of lies happen?

jmo

I'm not sure boxermom... I'm not great on the "dates" of all the things in this case.

I can only keep the main dates straight other than that i don't know how the dates mesh together.

would be interesting to know

[GrannyB]

I'm not sure boxermom... I'm not great on the "dates" of all the things in this case.

I can only keep the main dates straight other than that i don't know how the dates mesh together.

would be interesting to know



Casey driving Cindy's car was around the 24 I think. I'm trying to find the date of the accident lie. Don't know if I can stomach listening to 2 hours of Cindy again. Did the transcripts ever get put on the net?

[BobbisAngel]

I think that Cindy is losing it. I don't know what Cindy was like before Caylee went missing so it is hard to really know what is going on. I think having a daughter like Casey would be enough to drive anyone over the edge....even without Caylee missing. I can't imagine living with that girl. There is something terribly wrong with Casey and probably has been for a long time. I would imagine that she has put her parents thorough hell for years. It sounds like at one time Cindy didn't hold back about what she thought of Casey.

I found the things that Jesse had to say really interesting. According to him Casey started to change towards the end of their relationship. She seemed to be totally different before that according to him. He seems like such a nice guy...very handsome...and very lucky that Casey is out of his life. Casey looks so different with blond hair.

Casey's attorney talks like Casey has told him what happened to Caylee. He talks about Casey not having to tell anyone where Caylee is.
Does anyone even care about that little girl besides people that didn't even know little Caylee? This whole case and this family are unbelievable. I wonder just how whipped George is???

I wonder why Lee hadn't been to his parents home for a year or so. Had he even seen them during that time? They must have had a big falling out. Probably over Casey.

[Lostgirl]

LE didn't push her on it either. I wonder if her reaction didn't answer some questions for them.

nope they sure didn't

very interesting... and now casey has been changed from "person of interest" to "suspect'

I can't wait for them to charge her and maybe we'll learn more of what exactly they have

[GrannyB]

I think that Cindy is losing it. I don't know what Cindy was like before Caylee went missing so it is hard to really know what is going on. I think having a daughter like Casey would be enough to drive anyone over the edge....even without Caylee missing. I can't imagine living with that girl. There is something terribly wrong with Casey and probably has been for a long time. I would imagine that she has put her parents thorough hell for years. It sounds like at one time Cindy didn't hold back about what she thought of Casey.

I found the things that Jesse had to say really interesting. According to him Casey started to change towards the end of their relationship. She seemed to be totally different before that according to him. He seems like such a nice guy...very handsome...and very lucky that Casey is out of his life. Casey looks so different with blond hair.

Casey's attorney talks like Casey has told him what happened to Caylee. He talks about Casey not having to tell anyone where Caylee is.
Does anyone even care about that little girl besides people that didn't even know little Caylee? This whole case and this family are unbelievable. I wonder just how whipped George is???

I wonder why Lee hadn't been to his parents home for a year or so. Had he even seen them during that time? They must have had a big falling out. Probably over Casey.


Later on IIRC it came out that Lee had been to birthday parties. So apparently for some reason he lied in the beginning also.

[Lostgirl]

Well like Jesse`s dad said.......Cindy has never told the same story twice!!
And I agree. She is so BUSTED!!......And it is NOT just some character flaw with Cindy or Casey.......THEY CAN TELL THE TRUTH......just listen to their 911 calls.....It is when it pertains to poor little CAYLEE they cannot tell the truth and just waste more time and STALL in hopes LE Tim or someone will NOT find a body!! How sad is that?

it's sad to the point of SICK!

I get ill when i think of that poor little girl, too young to protect herself from the creatures who were raising her and now all they can do is think of ways to save their own lying butts!

all the while her little body lays somewhere... GRRRR!!!

disgusting! :mad:

[5boxersmom]

Why did Cindy never mention the car accident on any of the programs she was on early on? She said Casey took Caylee on a mini vacation to bond. Never hear that anymore.

Where all have we heard so far. Tampa, Talahasse, Jacksonville, am I missing any?

jmo

[Lostgirl]

Lostgirl,

I agree with you and your aunt. Most of the time, a mother knows when her child, even a grown child, is lying. My oldest lied to me the other day via text message and just by the wording and the circumstances I could tell it was a big old LIE! Of course she slipped up later on and the lie unfolded. At least she owned up to it and I reminded her that the truth always comes out somehow.

Tonight on NG they showed that clip of Casey wearing the light blue top when she was first arrested. Every time I see that, I can't help but notice how her face lights up when she realizes that the cameras and reporters are there for her. You can see her turn it on with the walk/strut and all. It is sad really. Wouldn't most people be so ashamed to be arrested for neglect of their child that they would show pure dread and embarrassment on their face?

JMO

exactly hockeymom..

and thats normal... usually when our kids fib and we catch them we point out that it's wrong and try to set a GOOD example because that's what they need... what they DON'T NEED is a willing accomplice!

and I'm talking about stupid little lies not DEAD BODY IN TRUNK SMELL! type of lies!

but what does Cindy do?
She starts fabricating just like Casey... ROTTEN PIZZA... puhleeeeesze! :rolleyes:

She enables! and look at how she is trying to downplay the whole credit card fraud issue and stealing money from people etc!

she even went so far as to STEAL the money that Casey STOLE!

When Cindy snuck that money into her pocket while the female officer was outside, she was STEALING.
She had no way of knowing where that money came from!
and in fact later on she said something about wondering it it was amy's or something!

If she thought it might be Amy's then why didnt she hand it to the officer when she came back in the room? or at least point it out to her and leave it in the wallet?

nope, she grabbed that cash and poked it away and if Lee hadnt spilled the beans Cindy never would have told anyone.

[GrannyB]

Why did Cindy never mention the car accident on any of the programs she was on early on? She said Casey took Caylee on a mini vacation to bond. Never hear that anymore.

Where all have we heard so far. Tampa, Talahasse, Jacksonville, am I missing any?

jmo


I think that covers it up to today. Cindy will probably add more.

It does seem to be Cindy changing the stories and the others just going along with her. I still think the key is the lies in the beginning. I just can't figure it out.

[5boxersmom]

Lostgirl,

I agree with you and your aunt. Most of the time, a mother knows when her child, even a grown child, is lying. My oldest lied to me the other day via text message and just by the wording and the circumstances I could tell it was a big old LIE! Of course she slipped up later on and the lie unfolded. At least she owned up to it and I reminded her that the truth always comes out somehow.

Tonight on NG they showed that clip of Casey wearing the light blue top when she was first arrested. Every time I see that, I can't help but notice how her face lights up when she realizes that the cameras and reporters are there for her. You can see her turn it on with the walk/strut and all. It is sad really. Wouldn't most people be so ashamed to be arrested for neglect of their child that they would show pure dread and embarrassment on their face?

JMO

Yeah, I think she is going to smile for the cameras and then I think it is Yuri that is standing at the doors. When she sees him she quits smiling. She knows they have her number.

jmo

[5boxersmom]

I think that covers it up to today. Cindy will probably add more.

It does seem to be Cindy changing the stories and the others just going along with her. I still think the key is the lies in the beginning. I just can't figure it out.

I think between the last 911 call and LE getting there Cindy was more or less told the truth. So the cover up began. From Zanny taking her, to kidnappers who didn't want ransom, to kidnappers who put Caylee in danger if Casey talked. Just a bunch of bull.

jmo

[GrannyB]

I think between the last 911 call and LE getting there Cindy was more or less told the truth. So the cover up began. From Zanny taking her, to kidnappers who didn't want ransom, to kidnappers who put Caylee in danger if Casey talked. Just a bunch of bull.

jmo


And this is why everytime I start leaning towards Casey I can't let go of Cindy. The 911 calls don't make sense. Waiting 30 days to get Casey doesn't make sense. Cindy is the one who seems to change the story. And the Casey driving her car really pushed me right back to Cindy. I just don't know. All I'm sure of is they all belong in jail and I hope LE can figure out the right charges for the right people.

[GrannyB]

I would love to hear that Cindy took that money and paid back one of Casey's theft victims. That hasn't been reported, so it appears she kept the money. $250 is a drop in the bucket of what Casey owes her parents, but maybe it would be a LOT of money to one of her young 20 something victims.

JMO


Now we have to be fair to the Anthony's. Before this is over they will probably need 4 different attorney's and that will be expensive. They need all the money they can find.:D

[Lostgirl]

I would love to hear that Cindy took that money and paid back one of Casey's theft victims. That hasn't been reported, so it appears she kept the money. $250 is a drop in the bucket of what Casey owes her parents, but maybe it would be a LOT of money to one of her young 20 something victims.

JMO

I'm sure she probably owes her parents plenty enough to justify that money but that's not the point and that is what's fundamentally WRONG with the Anthonys!

You don't just take the money because you;ve been wronged to the tune of XXXXX amount of $$$$$ and your gonna get a bit of that back!
Especially if your main focus is on finding your granddaughter!

That money probably had nothing directly to do with caylee's where abouts but who knows... maybe it could have something to do with something or someone...

You should work WITH the police and point out anything and everything... not start sneaking money out of wallets, or lying about what vehicles Casey had driven or what dates things happened on!

According to Cindy her #1 concern is getting Caylee back yet she's pocketing a lousy $250 ?!??!??

Have the Anthonys led any searches? what happened to Cindys declaration that she will knock on every door if thats what it takes to find her granddaughter?

The only reason they arent looking is because they know she's dead and the only thing that finding her body will do is send cinch the case that sends Casey to prison for the rest of her life.

the whole damn bunch of them sicken me :mad:

[5boxersmom]

I think I am going to be sick. barf Over on the Help find Caylee myspace they have listed as her hero her 'Mama".

barf

jmo

[5boxersmom]

I'm sure she probably owes her parents plenty enough to justify that money but that's not the point and that is what's fundamentally WRONG with the Anthonys!

You don't just take the money because you;ve been wronged to the tune of XXXXX amount of $$$$$ and your gonna get a bit of that back!
Especially if your main focus is on finding your granddaughter!

That money probably had nothing directly to do with caylee's where abouts but who knows... maybe it could have something to do with something or someone...

You should work WITH the police and point out anything and everything... not start sneaking money out of wallets, or lying about what vehicles Casey had driven or what dates things happened on!

According to Cindy her #1 concern is getting Caylee back yet she's pocketing a lousy $250 ?!??!??

Have the Anthonys led any searches? what happened to Cindys declaration that she will knock on every door if thats what it takes to find her granddaughter?

The only reason they arent looking is because they know she's dead and the only thing that finding her body will do is send cinch the case that sends Casey to prison for the rest of her life.

the whole damn bunch of them sicken me :mad:

What if that money would have had fingerprints or DNA to help find Caylee? I know that is a small chance but Cindy should not have touched it. I am kinda shocked that LE let them dump everything like that.

jmo

[GrannyB]

I think I am going to be sick. barf Over on the Help find Caylee myspace they have listed as her hero her 'Mama".

barf

jmo


Hero??? for what???? Do you have the link?:cuss:

[Lostgirl]

What if that money would have had fingerprints or DNA to help find Caylee? I know that is a small chance but Cindy should not have touched it. I am kinda shocked that LE let them dump everything like that.

jmo

exactly boxermom, that might be a million to 1 shot but it MIGHT be a possibility, or maybe it could have some other connection.. who knows?

According to them they DIDNT KNOW what was going on or where caylee was or anything... so for Cindy to start making decisions about pocketing money found in Caseys wallet and keeping that from the cops could be IMPORTANT info....

maybe not but that's not the point... if theres ANY chance that that money might be a clue no matter how small they owed it to caylee to make sure the cops were AWARE of it!

and yes I agree it was stupid for the cops to let them dump her bags out and rifle through them and it was DOUBLY stupid for the officer to waltz outside and leave them alone with the bag!

remember when the officer came back... she noticed the fake ID or whatever in the wallet as Cindy was flipping through it and she SNATCHED it out of there?
So that tells me that they were already in the mode of suspecting that this could have something to do with the mother.... and how could they not?

the damn car smells of dead body and her kids been missing for a month and she hasnt called the cops??!?!? they'd have to be brain dead not to think that she could be involved!

[5boxersmom]

Hero??? for what???? Do you have the link?:cuss:

Here you go.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=122459029


Heroes

My "mama" and family! barf

[Lostgirl]

ohhhhh and i love how Cindy is already trying to be johnny Cochrane and build her case for police incompetence!

remember when she said to the media that the car was left for 3 days or something? and the detective confronts her about that NOT being TRUE!
That the car was left for 1 day until he could have it towed blah blah...

why do you suppose she was already dropping those jems to the media?

and as it is... it was probably dumb for the cops to leave it there for 5 minutes unguarded because the defense will use anything no matter how small to spout about conspiracy, contamination you name it!

sheesh I can call a tow truck now and have one here within 20 minutes to tow my car across town but the cops had to wait a whole day to take possession of that car? why?

it smells of dead body!!, theres a chlld missing for a month!! do you really have more important things to do?

I dunno maybe I'm unaware of something about the towing situation in orlando but that seemed really dumb to me.

[Lostgirl]

Lostgirl,
I missed the story about the fake ID. Did it have someone else's name on it or was it in Casey's name? Why would she need that? Didn't she have her own FL ID to show at bars, banks, stores, etc...???

Thanks

JMO

I'm not certain it was fake ID, but I think I heard the cop say that in one of the interviews (maybe he said it to cindy when he confronted her about the $250 dollars and not telling them that she took it)
OHHHHH and when he asked her about it she says that she DID tell the officer and show her the money... yet Lee definitely said Cindy took it when the cop was outside and the cop didn't know.

I believe in Lees interview he described it as a white paper or something and how the female officer snatched it out of the wallet.

[5boxersmom]

exactly boxermom, that might be a million to 1 shot but it MIGHT be a possibility, or maybe it could have some other connection.. who knows?

According to them they DIDNT KNOW what was going on or where caylee was or anything... so for Cindy to start making decisions about pocketing money found in Caseys wallet and keeping that from the cops could be IMPORTANT info....

maybe not but that's not the point... if theres ANY chance that that money might be a clue no matter how small they owed it to caylee to make sure the cops were AWARE of it!

and yes I agree it was stupid for the cops to let them dump her bags out and rifle through them and it was DOUBLY stupid for the officer to waltz outside and leave them alone with the bag!

remember when the officer came back... she noticed the fake ID or whatever in the wallet as Cindy was flipping through it and she SNATCHED it out of there?
So that tells me that they were already in the mode of suspecting that this could have something to do with the mother.... and how could they not?

the damn car smells of dead body and her kids been missing for a month and she hasnt called the cops??!?!? they'd have to be brain dead not to think that she could be involved!

Boxersmom,
That is such a good point! The money could have had some dna on it or other residues... like chloroform for example. It seems even though the family had major concerns, they went ahead with all this CLEANING. Cleaning the car... cleaning the clothes... and quite possibly trying to "clean" the laptop Casey was using.

JMO and please excuse any spelling/typo errors... thank you

You would think anyone would know not to touch things. Why did LE allow Lee to go get her stuff? I am starting to get alittle worried now. :eek:

[GrannyB]

Here you go.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=122459029


Heroes

My "mama" and family! barf

Thanks I put it in my favorites so I won't loose it again. Surely some of those people who post there don't mean what they say.

[Lostgirl]

You would think anyone would know not to touch things. Why did LE allow Lee to go get her stuff? I am starting to get alittle worried now. :eek:

and I'm not positive but wasnt there some talk about how LONG Lee was gone to go get those bags?

doesnt tony live in the same general area?

[GrannyB]

ohhhhh and i love how Cindy is already trying to be johnny Cochrane and build her case for police incompetence!

remember when she said to the media that the car was left for 3 days or something? and the detective confronts her about that NOT being TRUE!
That the car was left for 1 day until he could have it towed blah blah...

why do you suppose she was already dropping those jems to the media?

and as it is... it was probably dumb for the cops to leave it there for 5 minutes unguarded because the defense will use anything no matter how small to spout about conspiracy, contamination you name it!

sheesh I can call a tow truck now and have one here within 20 minutes to tow my car across town but the cops had to wait a whole day to take possession of that car? why?

it smells of dead body!!, theres a chlld missing for a month!! do you really have more important things to do?

I dunno maybe I'm unaware of something about the towing situation in orlando but that seemed really dumb to me.


IIRC LE was there most of the night. They did have to get a warrent to take the car.

[GrannyB]

You would think anyone would know not to touch things. Why did LE allow Lee to go get her stuff? I am starting to get alittle worried now. :eek:



LE didn't let him. He just left and did it. Took him 2 1/2 to get the stuff. Plenty of time to pick it up and go home and try to destroy the info on computer.

[Lostgirl]

I just worry when the cops don't watch things carefully. :shrug:

After OJ and then Jon Benet where the female cop let a whole darn gang of friends run around that house all the while knowing that supposedly a little girl had been kidnapped it makes me angry to hear of cops treating things casually.

Now maybe they didnt in this case and maybe it just sounds worse to me than it was, i guess we'll find out if it goes to trial but it won't surprise me if it's exactly as Lee described and that cop allowed them to dump out the bags on the floor and rifle through it and then left them alone and went outside while Cindy took the cash.

Who knows if that's all she took?

Maybe lee didnt tell the whole story? who knows!

[GrannyB]

Now that I think about it I wonder if he not only messed with the computer but did he remove anything and leave it at his house.:shrug:

[5boxersmom]

Thanks I put it in my favorites so I won't loose it again. Surely some of those people who post there don't mean what they say.

and I'm not positive but wasnt there some talk about how LONG Lee was gone to go get those bags?

doesnt tony live in the same general area?

2 hours it took Lee to go get her things is what I have read.

jmo

[Lostgirl]

IIRC LE was there most of the night. They did have to get a warrent to take the car.

well thats good to know

The detective sounded angry when he asked Cindy why she told the media that that car sat there for 3-4 days

and it made me think... hmmmm... what is she up to?

Is she trying to suggest it was left and anything or anyone could have tampered with it?

[GrannyB]

I just worry when the cops don't watch things carefully. :shrug:

After OJ and then Jon Benet where the female cop let a whole darn gang of friends run around that house all the while knowing that supposedly a little girl had been kidnapped it makes me angry to hear of cops treating things casually.

Now maybe they didnt in this case and maybe it just sounds worse to me than it was, i guess we'll find out if it goes to trial but it won't surprise me if it's exactly as Lee described and that cop allowed them to dump out the bags on the floor and rifle through it and then left them alone and went outside while Cindy took the cash.

Who knows if that's all she took?

Maybe lee didnt tell the whole story? who knows!


IIRC didn't Cindy or Lee tell LE the lady cop who was there was someone Lee went to school with? And they couldn't remember her name. Probably cause she was a real person not an imaginary one.

[GrannyB]

well thats good to know

The detective sounded angry when he asked Cindy why she told the media that that car sat there for 3-4 days

and it made me think... hmmmm... what is she up to?

Is she trying to suggest it was left and anything or anyone could have tampered with it?


I think Cindy was trying to cover herself for removing items and cleaning the car even though she did those things before LE got there.

[5boxersmom]

LE didn't let him. He just left and did it. Took him 2 1/2 to get the stuff. Plenty of time to pick it up and go home and try to destroy the info on computer.

Could they have kept him from leaving?




I just worry when the cops don't watch things carefully. :shrug:

After OJ and then Jon Benet where the female cop let a whole darn gang of friends run around that house all the while knowing that supposedly a little girl had been kidnapped it makes me angry to hear of cops treating things casually.

Now maybe they didnt in this case and maybe it just sounds worse to me than it was, i guess we'll find out if it goes to trial but it won't surprise me if it's exactly as Lee described and that cop allowed them to dump out the bags on the floor and rifle through it and then left them alone and went outside while Cindy took the cash.

Who knows if that's all she took?

Maybe lee didnt tell the whole story? who knows!

Yes, I was thinking of the JBR case also. Who knows what all was in that bag.


It seems like Casey's family was used to covering up for her. They quickly jumped right into that mode and I really feel, IMO, that Lee thought he was doing her a big favor by clearing out some of the things on her computer. Maybe he regrets that now, I don't know.

Years ago, I received and TOOK some good advice from a counselor regarding my daughter. He told me to stop being a parent who enables their child and start being a parent who cheers their child on to do the right thing. I had to hear that 3 times before I realized I was enabling her destructive life style by giving her money all the time. Now I just say I'm proud of you when things seem to be going good for her.

Cindy: Please start "cheering on" Casey to do the right thing and stop enabling her destructive behavior.

JMO

Almost like they all knew their jobs and what to do. Remember Lee saying on the phone to Casey in jail. " Is this like the last time." Hard telling what that family has been up to with Casey.

Good for you with your daughter. If only Cindy would have learned this.

jmo

[Lostgirl]

*snipped* I had to hear that 3 times before I realized I was enabling her destructive life style by giving her money all the time. Now I just say I'm proud of you when things seem to be going good for her.

Cindy: Please start "cheering on" Casey to do the right thing and stop enabling her destructive behavior.

JMO

exactly, they enable Casey

and they are either doing that out of weak parenting, guilt or maybe Casey has something on them?

Someimtes i really wonder why they are so aggressive in defending her when it's becoming soooo obvious how horrible she has been.

I mean even when LE told her that whole business trip story was a LIE.... Cindy was more interested in berating the cop for stupid details than she was about hearing what a screwed up person casey is!

She immediately got mad at the cop and ignored the entire story about her daughter telling the biggest WHOPPER I've ever heard!
and add to that "Caylee is MISSING" but Cindys more interested in snapping at the detective about little things he did or said?!??!??! :confused:

[5boxersmom]

IIRC didn't Cindy or Lee tell LE the lady cop who was there was someone Lee went to school with? And they couldn't remember her name. Probably cause she was a real person not an imaginary one.

:lol: This made me laugh. Cause she was a real person. :lol:

Good one.


jmo

[Lostgirl]

IIRC didn't Cindy or Lee tell LE the lady cop who was there was someone Lee went to school with? And they couldn't remember her name. Probably cause she was a real person not an imaginary one.


:tongue: LOL!

yes lee said he went to school with her but couldnt recall her name.

[5boxersmom]

exactly, they enable Casey

and they are either doing that out of weak parenting, guilt or maybe Casey has something on them?

Someimtes i really wonder why they are so aggressive in defending her when it's becoming soooo obvious how horrible she has been.

I mean even when LE told her that whole business trip story was a LIE.... Cindy was more interested in berating the cop for stupid details than she was about hearing what a screwed up person casey is!

She immediately got mad at the cop and ignored the entire story about her daughter telling the biggest WHOPPER I've ever heard!
and add to that "Caylee is MISSING" but Cindys more interested in snapping at the detective about little things he did or said?!??!??! :confused:


See that is what I don't get. Maybe the things I would have let slide with my son when say he was 16 I wouldn't once he was older. Pick your battles. Does that make sense? And for sure not after he had a child. The child comes first. No matter what.

jmo

[GrannyB]

Quote:
Originally Posted by GrannyB
LE didn't let him. He just left and did it. Took him 2 1/2 to get the stuff. Plenty of time to pick it up and go home and try to destroy the info on computer.

Could they have kept him from leaving?


LE had already gone to Tony's and got her cell phone. I'm betting Casey or Cindy told Lee to run over and get the rest of the stuff and remove what they wanted gone. My impression was LE didn't know he had left. And I bet they could have told him to not get it. If he had insisted they could have told Tony to just don't open the door.

[Lostgirl]

See that is what I don't get. Maybe the things I would have let slide with my son when say he was 16 I wouldn't once he was older. Pick your battles. Does that make sense? And for sure not after he had a child. The child comes first. No matter what.

jmo

i know!

and think about it... Cindy had just screamed into the phone "the damn car smells like it had a DEAD BODY in it!" and "our grandaughter has been missing for 30 days!!!"

that isn't a teenage prank, sneaking the answers to an exam or toilet papering the nieghbours house on halloween!

this is a 3 yr old child and the car smells of death!

there's mischief and lies and then theres SERIOUS SITUATIONS that need to be dealt with in a serious fashion!

I love my kids and i would stand by them but i would stand by them to DO THE RIGHT THING! not stand by them and help them hide evidence or mislead the investigators!

:mad:

[GrannyB]

exactly, they enable Casey

and they are either doing that out of weak parenting, guilt or maybe Casey has something on them?

Someimtes i really wonder why they are so aggressive in defending her when it's becoming soooo obvious how horrible she has been.

I mean even when LE told her that whole business trip story was a LIE.... Cindy was more interested in berating the cop for stupid details than she was about hearing what a screwed up person casey is!

She immediately got mad at the cop and ignored the entire story about her daughter telling the biggest WHOPPER I've ever heard!
and add to that "Caylee is MISSING" but Cindys more interested in snapping at the detective about little things he did or said?!??!??! :confused:

One thing that I have noticed the farther along this gets is a lot of what is attributed to Casey saying is from other members of her family.
We haven't heard it come out of her mouth. And no I am not defending Casey I just want the truth.

[GrannyB]

Isn't that the sad truth of it all! I bet Cindy and George and even Casey's "friends" think of all the stories she has told them over the years about people she knows, places she has been, EVENTs she has planned, and they wonder if ANY of it is true at all. Maybe just about everything she has said is a lie.

JMO



Imagine what Cindy's 'friends and co-workers' think of her now. I bet they could tell some tales.

[GrannyB]

i know!

and think about it... Cindy had just screamed into the phone "the damn car smells like it had a DEAD BODY in it!" and "our grandaughter has been missing for 30 days!!!"

that isn't a teenage prank, sneaking the answers to an exam or toilet papering the nieghbours house on halloween!

this is a 3 yr old child and the car smells of death!

there's mischief and lies and then theres SERIOUS SITUATIONS that need to be dealt with in a serious fashion!

I love my kids and i would stand by them but i would stand by them to DO THE RIGHT THING! not stand by them and help them hide evidence or mislead the investigators!

:mad:


The Anthony's had the car before they got Casey. The knew what had been in the car from the smell. Am I the only one who thinks Cindy's last 911 call should have been her first call? And how long did it take her to get from call 1 to call 3. I don't believe it has anything to do with her not finding out til the 3rd call. Remember we now know Cindy let Casey drive her car and Caylee sure wasn't with her then.

[Lostgirl]

One thing that I have noticed the farther along this gets is a lot of what is attributed to Casey saying is from other members of her family.
We haven't heard it come out of her mouth. And no I am not defending Casey I just want the truth.

you're right granny and i do try to keep that in mind and remember that a lot of what we discuss and try to figure out is added to with speculation in order to try and make sense of some things.

Maybe once she's charged or goes to trial things will change.

Sociopaths put themself first so i wouldnt be surprised to see Casey try and pin this on C&G if all else fails.... she's already given it a try by saying george hit the squirrels so the car stunk because of him

[5boxersmom]

Night Friends.

Enjoyed the great discussion tonight.

Caylee:rose:

[GrannyB]

Night Friends.

Enjoyed the great discussion tonight.

Caylee:rose:

Nite Boxer

[Lostgirl]

i just listened to the NG show from earlier... and it sounded odd to me when the lady calls in and asks her "when" did the tip about a lady seeing someone with a slight bulld, baseball cap blah blah out by the airport" and NG says it was fairly soon after caylee was announced as missing.

and then she goes on to say the tip came in on Sept 3

WTF? the point the caller was making (at least i think it was) was that if the information about Caseys make/color/model of car was already reported and the information about searches around the airport had already been reported then the tipster might just be lying to get attention or something.

well ummmm wasnt ALL of that information WELL KNOWN on Sept 3?

why would NG say the tip was reported quickly after caylee going missing and it was just being revealed now?

did i misunderstand that?

[Lostgirl]

g'nite boxermom

sleep well :)

[Lostgirl]

I noticed that too. Usually NG jumps right on these little inaccuracies.. ha. Who knows if it is a true rememberance someone had or like you suggested, just for attention. Is LE done searching that area?

JMO


I don;t know for sure but they didnt say anything about searching that area again tomorrow or anything :confused:

oh i know what i wanted to ask... what did Cindy say about Tim from Equasearch? (sp?)

I heard she said bad things about him?

[GrannyB]

I don;t know for sure but they didnt say anything about searching that area again tomorrow or anything :confused:

oh i know what i wanted to ask... what did Cindy say about Tim from Equasearch? (sp?)

I heard she said bad things about him?



To sum it up real quickly once she got around to calling and asking him to come search she said he said he would be searching for a live Caylee and since he wasn't he was a liar and to go home. LE talked to Tim and ask him to stay. Gave him $5,000 and some equipment and personnel to help him.

[SavannahStar]

Do you ever think how childish and juvenile your responses are? You have absolutely no ammunition in your limited intelligence aresenal so you stoop such to basic nah nah's that's it's almost embarassing to read your posts. Why don't you just poke yourself in the eye and be over it? Really. You can't say anything because you are so stunted in your ability to debate and argue a lemur would fracture your sentence structure with a mere appearance than you do when you try to post. It's truly embarassing. Casey most surely murdered her child. I wish you were her lawyer or least I wish you were Baez's second seat. I'm truly tired of you preaching. You are a sad person. I'm being kind, JOM.


:( NOT one of your best posts, Rose.

[Texas48]

You found Caylee??? I am so glad!

Yes. This is a major prize.

rosejusrose, isn't this to be about Caylee?
Post 854..Especially for rosejustrose....always read BACK post trying to catch up as I go to bed fairly early and miss late night post. Read this and I want you to know rose...I am so thankful your mom is Cancer free and I know your prayers were answered. I, for one, will say how happy I am for you and your family. Off Topic...YES....and with me its OK and I certain many posters will agree. Hang in there rose and many of us are THANKFUL,:seeya: